Brynildson: I'm jealous of guys like Jonathan who have that one-on-one interaction with the customer. There is something cool about a little operation where you're getting top dollar for every drop and pushing it across the bar rather than putting it on a truck and sending it across the country. But we both landed in the right places. When Jonathan won small brewpub of the year and we won midsize brewery of the year at the World Beer Cup in 2006, it was one of my favorite moments ever. We started working together at Goose Island, and there was this moment almost 10 years later where we were both kicking ass doing what we were doing.