One of the most common complaints heard by those of us who write about UFOs is that the photographs and videos are so blurry and out-of-focus. If only a professional photographer with expensive equipment, high-powered lenses, a steady hand and an eye for details would see a UFO …

Keep wishing. Two professionals spotted UFOs on the same day this month and the results are the same as those taken by every other amateur photographer with a cheap cell phone.

Richard Emblin describes himself as the Director and Editor-in-chief of Colombia’s English language newspaper, The City Paper, and a former photojournalist for the Black Star photo agency in New York whose work was published in TIME, Der Spiegel, The New York Times and other places. Oh, and he’s a pilot too. On the morning of April 12, 2015, he stood on his balcony in Bogota and used his Nikon 300s with a 500 mm lens to take three photographs of a UFO.

Emblin is sensitive to criticism and later responded to critics that he didn’t manipulate the photos, it was definitely a UFO and this was as good as it gets. Let’s hope he’s not right.

Also on April 12, a man describing himself as a professional celebrity photographer used a Panasonic Lumix camera with a 60x zoom lens to shoot a video of a plane flying over Rome, Italy. Why would a paparazzi would be wasting time photographing contrails? He didn’t say nor did he give his name. When he looked at the video later, he spotted a UFO that he hadn’t seen. Why hadn’t he seen it when he was filming? I guess there were no celebrities on it. (warning: cheesy music on video)

The video was analyzed by the Mediterranean UFO Center (C.UFO.M). Investigator Angelo Maggioni said it wasn’t a bird and it was too high to be a balloon. He estimated the UFO to be flying at an altitude of 13,000 meters (42,000 feet) which would put it at about the same altitude as the plane.

Two UFOs. Two professional photographers. Blurry pictures and videos. Is this really as good as it’s going to get?