ZoneDymo Vega 56 and the RX580 are fine

They would be if the price was similar and they didn't draw more power and produce more heat. They came too late, everyone already had a GTX 10-series in their system by that point or R9 290/390/Fury/RX470/480 and were waiting for AMD to release something worth upgrading to.I would believe those cards are competitive, but they are not when it comes to price. The lucky few that got those cards at decent price, made a good purchase though.Also right now, considering a Vega 56 costs £100 or more in my country compared to a similarly performing GTX 1070 that has more overclocking headroom, while producing less heat. Ehhh. This is why my own rig right now is sporting a GeForce, it doesn't make a good decision to buy something that is lesser in most aspects, as a consumer I made the choice that made most sense to me. I have a Freesync monitor though, but I can't take full advantage of it. So that sucks. And nVidia sure as hell won't support free adaptive sync, because G-Sync monitors are making them lots of money I guess. I've read too many people having Freesync monitors and a GeForce but not a G-Sync monitor and a Radeon (Hmm, I wonder why?).The prices are still not low enough for something that is going to be replaced very soon. I mean we just hit MSRP pricing for "new" parts a moment ago. How old these architectures actually are? Oh well, just about 2 years! And it's going to get worse, we'll have to wait ages and the pricing is going to be up the bum for "mid-range parts" like the GTX 1070Ti/1080.Vega isn't bad, it just doesn't compete well. Drivers are really good, but. And there's always a but, game developers choose nVidia to optimize for, and subjectively most of the titles I play run better on a GeForce card right now (that could change in a year or two). (Finewine was a thing during Fiji and Hawaii era) But seriously, RTG needs to drop GCN. Like now. It worked for their GPU's in the past but now it's like AMD is parading its corpse around for everyone to see.At first I didn't like the decision of nVidia not putting full-fat hardware support for DX12, but it seems they were right not to bother adding it in Pascal as developers made a bunch of half-assed DX12 patches that sometimes made the game engine run worse than DX11.With Intel trying to put Vulkan into the spotlight, I hope AMD tries to make good on that promise they made when it was said they are working with more game developers. I need that extra FPS and lower latency, okay? Please.Putting HBM2 on Vega was a curse and a blessing, I hope with GDDR6, RTG can come up with something good. But they have to release it quick after nVidia, so they know exactly what they are up against, otherwise if RTG releases a card first, nVidia can just leapfrog it while keeping the untapped performance and optimizations for later generations (remember, they already have working Volta and Turing), thus screwing the consumer out of extra performance that wehave had. It's a waiting game right now. For them and for us.Or they know their moves exactly, because the two CEO's know each other and are going to be laughing their asses off (Papa Jensen Huang and Mama Lisa-Su :laugh:). There are a few scenarios, one thing is for sure, it is interesting to watch.Anyway the thread isn't about GPU's but it's my own fault of being lured by a chance to see everything how it was, is and could be. On a lighter note, just try to buy something that makes most sense, hope you don't get hit by that buyers remorse and be happy.My rig is screaming no disassemble right now. Because I need to change the power supply and it thinks I want to "kill" it.420th post! :lovetpu: