What a great interview. Some really great quotes in it:

"That in the US, people need a style first and then a beer. I am still convinced that it's reverse; you enjoy a beer, not a style. An artist creates, a publisher copies. Brewers should be artists, but we are constantly bogged down in trying to diminish the art into a style."

"I think it is crazy what the US forgot in the Wonder bread period."

"I am a bit appalled about the influx of money in US craft brewing; now everybody with a rich uncle can brew money without passion."