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Kathryn Dunn is no stranger to conspiracies. The Texan has a catalog of theories from the outside world, and she centered that paranoia in her Big Brother game. What ended up undoing Kat was the very thing she was fostering throughout the house. The majority’s paranoia about a connection between her, Holly Allen, and Jackson Michie proved that, yes, those “bitches” were conspiring against her.

First Head of Household Christie Murphy saw Kat as delusional and full of herself, making it easy to manifest her as a target. She was unnerving everyone in the house with her constant paranoia, and her early showmance with Jackson fizzled out. This left Kat in a position stinkier than bobcat urine, only to be offered a saving grace with the last-minute eviction of Ovi Kabir. After that, her quirkiness began to endear herself to the rest of the house, increasing her social standing. She had scorn towards Jackson for their BB breakup, only for her close ally Holly to become involved with him. Having known Holly from outside the show, she was committed to working with her, Jackson and all.

Kat’s second nomination was far more dramatic than her first. With Holly as HoH, she volunteered as a nominee against Sam Smith to obscure their relationship. But Jackson soon spilled the beans to Jack Matthews, causing him and Tommy Bracco to try to organize a last-minute flip against Kat. After a series of arguments, Christie stopped the runaway stagecoach in its tracks. Despite the failure, Tommy never forgot about the information he heard. So when he won HoH, the man in the rocket outfit put her up on the block at the speed of light against Cliff Hogg III. While America’s Field Trip threw a temporary wrench in the works, Tommy’s Veto win coupled with Cliff’s new six-person alliance sent Kat to the jury house (and unfortunately not into the arms of Brett Robinson).

Now out of the house, Kat talks with Parade about the origin of her catchphrase, her relationships with Holly and Jackson, and why she chastised Cliff after finding out about his new deal.

In the beginning, you struggled with digesting all the paranoia and suspicion in the house, creating the catchphrase, “Are you bitches conspiring against me?” Why was that difficult for you early on?

First of all, I really did not feel that paranoid. Yes, I was paranoid, but everyone’s paranoid in Big Brother. The “bitches were conspiring against me” thing was said as a joke. I don’t know how that joke landed in the show. I’m kind of embarrassed about it now. A lot of the paranoia stemmed from I had a lot of ears around the house to fact-check everything that was going on. In one corner, I had Holly and Michie that were telling me one thing. But then, in the other corner, I had Jess telling me another thing. There were times that they were conflicting, and getting conflicting information in the house is always going to breed paranoia because you don’t know who is telling the truth. But at the end of the day, the whole thing was a total joke, and I wouldn’t have said that so openly and so much if I really thought they were conspiring. I thought I was lightening the mood.

You’ve said at times that you were on Big Brother to achieve notoriety rather than actually winning the game. Was that really your intention?

There are a couple of things. I had told Michie that early on as a way to show that I wasn’t as serious about the game as I really was. In seasons past, it was a bad thing to show that you’re a superfan and that you like the game. On this season, I came to find out it’s actually better to be a fan of the show. I was playing into that whole, “I don’t really know what I’m doing here, I’m just having fun, playing dumb” role. But on the other hand, I didn’t want people to think I was a threat to win the entire thing. Because if you look at Jack, who did want to win the entire thing and was very vocal about it, he got evicted early on because everyone knew he was gunning for the big win. With me, I think a lot of people were like, “Well, she may or may not want to win, so we’ll see what happens.”

You got extremely emotional in the middle of the OTEV Veto competition. What prompted those feelings?

I was emotional after the Veto because of how I eliminated Cliff. We were both gunning for the last spot and reaching for the rope, and he had slipped and fallen back. I’m not the type that does head-to-head competition like that, so it was hard for me to cope with the idea that I had just pushed someone I really care for out of a competition. I did want to win the Veto, of course, and I wanted to keep Christie on the block because that would’ve kept Cliff and me both in the house. But it was really just I honestly felt like a monster at that moment where I beat Cliff out.

You and Holly knew of each other outside the show, which helped foster a close partnership between you. What did you make of your relationship, and did you intend to go to the Final Two with her as you promised?

I love Holly, and I’m so happy that I got to know her. We didn’t really know each other that well before this; it was more like acquaintances. But now I really do think that she is a lifelong friend and someone who made this experience so much better. That being said, I also did struggle with thinking of what would happen if it were me, Jess and Holly in the Final Three – what decision would I make? Because Holly and I were tight, but there were a lot of instances where she did make some questionable decisions based on her relationship with Michie. I always would’ve wanted to go to the Final Two with her because I did believe in us. But it really would’ve been a hard decision if I had to choose between her and Jess.

Your relationship with Jackson is complicated. While the two of you were romantically involved early on, and you disapprove of some of his comments and behaviors, he did work with you and Holly. What are your thoughts about him now?

It really depends on the day. I found out that he and I are a lot alike. We both have reactive personalities and the same center of attention mentality. We’re very similar in our personalities, but we’re like oil and water. So I’m glad we never worked out romantically because that would’ve been horrible. That being said, because of the fights we had, we often did sit down and hash it out together. In leaving the house, I do think he is all in all a good person. I think he has been enabled, but I think he’s also been misunderstood. And I think the house is making him a better person. But if you asked me four weeks ago what I thought of him, I would say I hated him.

You, Holly, and Jackson got targeted as a trio, which led to some last-minute scrambling when you were nominated against Sam. What did you try to do to convince the others that you weren’t together?

If I had won HoH I know for sure I would’ve taken a shot at Michie. There were a lot of things he did that really did me wrong and affected my game negatively. And I had been so vocal about it up to that point it would’ve been silly for me not to take a shot at him. So us being a trio was really all about Holly for me. I put up with Michie, and I played the game with him, but it was really because I had Holly and her best interests in mind.

After finding out Cliff had made a deal while on the block, you told him you were disappointed in him and outed Cliff’s Angels. What made you feel that way, and what do you think about him now?

Man, I’m a little worried that scene came off as Bayleigh vs. Tyler! But I do really love Cliff and I hate that our last 24 hours were as tense as they were. I do still love him, and I believe that he’s a lifelong friend. I think he plays a really great game.

You called out Nick in your eviction speech. What was your intention in doing that, and how do you feel about his game?

I am not a fan of Nick. Nick is so sleazy, and he is always playing multiple sides of the house. He thinks he’s a puppet master, but everyone sees what he’s doing and lets him get away with it because he’s a moving target. Nick’s whole game tactic is he flirts with the girls and Tommy, and I think it’s kind of disgusting. I guess you could say he’s not my favorite player.

You told Julie you were loyal to a fault. Looking back, which houseguest do you regret being loyal to the most?

I will say Nicole really disappointed me. I really loved getting to know her and playing in this game with her. But–and maybe I’m completely wrong on this–in the last 24 hours, I saw a different side of her that seemed very wishy-washy and very codependent on Nick. She was playing the victim so much. Before I left, I was trying to give her a pep talk, saying, “You’re so great. Play your own game. Play a game your family and students would be proud of.” And she turned around and told everyone in the house that I had told her she was a disgrace to her family and students back home. I don’t know how she took it or spun it the way that she did, but I think she plays the victim card a lot.