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@rr.com -13 recommendations Anon91831 Anon Exclusive And then you have these same cities who force you to use one trash company and alike. Talk about pot meeting kettle Chubbysumo

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8 recommendations Chubbysumo Member Re: Exclusive said by Anon91831 : And then you have these same cities who force you to use one trash company and alike. because trash collection is something that needs to get done, and the trucks cause physical damage to the roads, having only 1 or 2 companies driving around can reduce wear and tear, and emissions(both noise and pollution) in neighborhoods. Take it from here, we have 6 companies driving around running trash collection, all their prices are pretty much the same, but now you have trucks driving around 7 days per week, causing damage to all the roads.

Anon91831

@rr.com -6 recommendations Anon91831 Anon Re: Exclusive Road damage? Stop using cheap asphalt and you wouldn't have that problem. And I have the same number. Trash is under 10$ a month. That's competition. And thanks for proving the point of HSI isn't needed like trash. But also supporting a monopoly that is still illegal. Chubbysumo

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3 recommendations Chubbysumo Member Re: Exclusive said by Anon91831 : Stop using cheap asphalt and you wouldn't have that problem. I just paid the assessment for them repaving my street. I have about 30 feet of road front. The assessment was $2100. Its not cheap, its residential roads, they are not made to bear the weight of 60000 pound trucks multiple times per day, because they are simply made differently than main roads or highways.

Anon91831

@rr.com -1 recommendation Anon91831 Anon Re: Exclusive Sounds like you got ripped off. That's the price of a full drive way. Kearnstd

Space Elf

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Mullica Hill, NJ 7 recommendations Kearnstd to Anon91831

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To most city dwellers trash collection is something they expect for paying taxes.



Also if you think the private sector is better for garbage you are dead wrong. Danbury CT has this and one company came in and bought up everyone and those who did not sell had "accidents" because purely private garbage hauling was ripe for take over by the Mafia. your moderator at work hidden :



bobjohnson

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Spartanburg, SC 3 recommendations bobjohnson to Anon91831

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said by Anon91831 : And then you have these same cities who force you to use one trash company and alike. Talk about pot meeting kettle



As an aside. We have a private system here in semi-rural SC where most of the collectors are just a guy with a truck and trailer. Works great here, we're all spread out... Trash company is a bad analogy in huge overpopulated areas like SF... Way too much going on in each neighborhood etc. Not comparable to copper/fiber drops from road to building.As an aside. We have a private system here in semi-rural SC where most of the collectors are just a guy with a truck and trailer. Works great here, we're all spread out...

Anon91831

@rr.com -3 recommendations Anon91831 Anon Re: Exclusive Same for much of NW Ohio. Trash is cheap and zero issues.

David

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I would have to agree with this on the trash aspect. I have Waste Management in Granite city, IL and I would just love to fire them for Christmas! (or just about any other time!). Unfortunatley, they got the contract (and I am sure the mayor and chronies got perks too) for another few years.



Makes me so mad sometimes....

SysOp

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One trash company makes sense in the city. Much easier to hold 1 company responsible for any and all trash inside city limits. Tie it in with taxes, and it's a no brainier. No guess work, no argument. All trash gets collected. No worries about people dumping, or abandinging their trash when they don't pay their bill.

battleop

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00000 2 recommendations battleop to Anon91831

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Never expect government or your elected officials to practice what they preach. There is a set of rules for them and a set of rules for the people who fund them and then there are those rules for you and me.

SysOp

join:2001-04-18

Atlanta, GA 1 recommendation SysOp Member I admit, I didn't read all of it When I have time I'll read it all. But for now, does this shore up the loophole where MDUs bundle the ISP/TV into the lease? Where the internet or TV comes "free" with your monthly rent. zoeblast

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Tampa, FL 1 recommendation zoeblast Member Who owns the building? I guess whomever owns the building decides what company they want to let in. I can't imagine a company can retrofit an MDU for an additional network without permission of the owner, that sounds crazy. Skippy25

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Hazelwood, MO 1 recommendation Skippy25 Member Re: Who owns the building? Well if the ordinance says they can't restrict access and they restrict access by deciding not to let another come in, then they are in violation of the ordinance.



Would you not agree with that logic?

battleop

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00000 battleop Member Re: Who owns the building? It's more government encroachment on private property owners. I've been on both sides of this coin. I once owned property and we didn't just let anyone run wire in our buildings. If they followed our standards then they were welcome to come in. If they didn't then they could hit the road. My biggest issue from this side of things was the government telling me what to do with my property.



I've also been on the ISP side of things and run into issues of not being able to reach my customers. While I didn't like it I also realize I don't have some God given right to do what the hell I wanted to do because I'm a CLEC. Skippy25

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Hazelwood, MO 1 recommendation Skippy25 Member Re: Who owns the building? Call it what you will but I call it sensible regulation to make sure that there is competition for the benefit of the consumers. You guys all act like they can just come in and do whatever the hell they want, which is never the case.



If you owned a building, then you should have ran all the proper wires that your tenants needed to obtain the services that they want in a homerun fashion so any provider can simply come into that space and hookup. If you did not do that, then it is your lack of wanting to provide for your consumers that is the problem.



As an ISP, you should be able to sensibly reach any consumer in the market that wants your service and there should be no unjust restrictions put in place by someone wanting a piece of the pie as well.



I would like to remind you that every regulation is put in place to protect consumers from the greed of businesses, the environment from the greed of businesses or other businesses from greed of businesses. The ole saying of treat others how you would like to be treated would do great good in the boardrooms of so the world.

battleop

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00000 battleop Member Re: Who owns the building? "If you owned a building, then you should have ran all the proper wires that your tenants needed to obtain the services that they want in a homerun fashion so any provider can simply come into that space and hookup."



As a fomer landlord who has to stay in the black this not always feasible. Not every building was built with high speed internet in mind. It can be very expensive to retro fit buildings and maintain their current look. Having to buildout infrastructure for anyone who wants to show up for free does not go over well with landlords.

Eddy120876

join:2009-02-16

Bronx, NY Eddy120876 Member Thats a win for the tenants :D Now this will really help the tenants to choose a better service instead of "what your landlord allows" We had this issue in NYC a few years back where a landlord will only allow those that pay then to block competition from coming in. lack of competition is never a good thing specially for a country like ours that is far behind many other countries when it comes to internet speed and prices. When you tell them "my copper connection" and they laugh. Thats not where we should be when it comes to the internet services. your comment..

