



This is surely one of the most beautiful First Comments any post of mine has ever received...

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I saw who the OP was and had to do it.

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They need to crisis it up, bring back laurel, kill off oliver, and rebrand this as the birds of prey tv show while ousting/blacklisting marc and wendy from ever working on a dc tv show ever again.

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With ideas like that you should be a Professional Show Renovator tbh!

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if guggenhell can pander to a select fanbase, then I can pander to the people who came because we were promised a decent live action green arrow adaptation and were robbed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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yassss at kill off oliver.



I used to be a diehard Olicity shipper, now with Laurel gone I only watch for Diggle and Felicity and fast forward whenever Oliver is on screen.

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Where can I sign this petition?

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All that needs to be said. Some people just want to watch Arrow burn.

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LOL perfect.

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Fire Guggenheim.



Make seasons 3 and 4 a fever dream.



There.



Arrow has been fixed.

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It sounds so simple when you put it that way!

LET'S DO IT.

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Why stop at the last two seasons? Let's just make the whole thing a dream Ollie was hallucinating while on the island.

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And recast him whilst we're at it.

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For real.



Even in Mistresses, Justin was more Oliver Queen than Amell will ever be.

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Don't get my hopes up this way </3 Justin was such the PERFECT Oliver Queen. Amell is just... there.

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Superior Oliver!!!!



😍❤️😍❤️

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actors phoning it in?



the acting has always been awful on this show from day 1

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Just reporting what the Forbes article said!



Detecting no lies though...

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Hah. As someone who only tolerated Arrow because of my Canary love this thrills me.

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Below 2 million for the first time too... SAVAGE. Dinah Laurel Lance slaying from beyond the grave!

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I was going to make a joke about how clearly Kate is in everyone's house, holding us at gunpoint to keep us from watching, thus sabotaging the ratings but...honestly I'm just so delighted.

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Love it.

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the sweet smell of failure

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I couldn't even tell you what those flashbacks are about now if I tried... it got to the point where I had to fastforward. And then there was nothing even going on worth watching in the present day, so I was just fastforwarding to the end of the show.

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this is exactly why I think creators shouldn't totally kowtow to a vocal and rabid fanbase



it's good to be aware of what fans are saying and responding to, but good storytelling should always be a priority. turning your show into a wish fulfillment fanfic to appease a very specific cross-section of fans is generally not good storytelling.

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i'm like 99% guggenheim either is just one of them (meaning he actually loves what he's writing and thinks it's awesome and the rabid fanbase kissing his ass just makes it worse) or he's too bitter and proud to accept he fucked up so he's going to ride this sinking mess into the ocean with a smile on his face pretending it's all cool and dandy. or both.

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I used to be a diehard Olicity shipper but I have had ENOUGH.



No more. Just no more. They don't know how to have women in this show that aren't either Oliver's love interest or related to him. (With the exception of Nyssa who has been spared due to her recurring status)

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MTE. the olicity fan base was so vocal they thought pandering to them was the safest bet. big mistake.

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omg I actually made it to a post. I was away for almost all the Flash Fam posts this week!



after the team let that nuke touch down on US soil last week (and tens of thousands of people were killed), "our heroes crack jokes and deal with daddy issues".





Lol of course this show would.

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Welcome back bb! You were missed! ❤



Will you make our (hopeful) Live Finale Post next week?

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Probably not :( I have graduation rehearsal that day. On the plus side I'm graduating so I can't really complain lol.

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HAHAHAHA! I tried so hard to stick with it tbh, it just became too much. The mistreatment of Laurel, the relationship melodrama, the lack of good material for literally any of the characters, and some of the fans tbh. I'm glad I stopped before Laurel died. I'm still kinda in shock at how much this show did a disservice to her character like smfh.



Edited at 2016-05-20 02:20 am (UTC)

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You were right to quit it! We were ALL right to quit it tbh.



RIP the glory days pre-S3 when it was ridic but fun :(

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This is beautiful. Love it.

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Serving the people ;)

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I don't watch this show but isn't it just a mess mess?



I always associate "hot mess" with thing that are messy but semi enjoyable/likeable.

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I would agree! It IS a mess mess, but the Forbes contributor who I enjoyed quoting so much still sticks with it somehow and can't seem to quit it, which he admits to at the source.



He seems to believe it is both unsalvageable and also worth and worthy of saving at the same time.



Whereas I personally just want them to cancel it and give their budget to Supergirl.

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Thanks for clarifying that this guy just has bad taste and wasn't misusing a phrase like I thought lol.



Edited at 2016-05-20 02:33 am (UTC)

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Amell looks like he wants to die (or fart) in all of the press photos from the upfronts.

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I was going to include some upfront stuff (NOT in the post) to my Roundup next week... but Amell was in the way, and he looked so grumpy and sullen I don't want to ruin the beauty and joy those posts are meant to bring.

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Well they knew who WASN'T in the grave... EBR was told at the beginning of the season that the only people that they weren't killing off for sure were herself, Amell, and Grant Gustin.



AND NO TO YOU SENDING GUGGENHEIM TO LOT. Send Guggenheim straight to the trash heap, leave LOT alonnnneeee.



Amell is definitely less enthused these days. He was saying at the con last weekend how much he misses the season 1/2 days and wishes the show could get back to that kind of style, especially in regards to Oliver's action scenes. He said there's a stunt coming up that he "hates", like seriously.



The fabulous Neal McDonough has been so wasted, it makes me sad :(

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My brother was just telling me how he still likes watching Arrow, he says that he's too attached to the characters. IA with you, the writers just refuse to see their own issues. They suck at writing female characters (so does the Flash imo but its not as obvious as Arrow), they suck at planning out season storylines, they suck at planning out character arcs. Essentially they suck at their jobs.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA



Here for my boo the OP <333333333





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HERE FOR YOU, MY BOO!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

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