Well I bought e refurbished console thinking it be better than a used one and rival a new one at a lower price...worked fine until 2weeks ago when cooling fan failed and now console won't stay on, which is fine because safety routine working to protect console. I got almost 1.5 yr out of it before issue with fan. By comparison my 360 sat idle same amt of time and fired up, had it almost 10 yes only issue w it is a dirty laser lens in CD drive. No mechanical issues from 360elite in 10yrs. I know the 1 is better and more capable, but seems like its not as durable. For all the tech and safe guards built in its down due to a faulty fan, that made noise from day one of ownership. So I advise you research carefully, not a knock on Amazon or partners, but units go bad and sometimes the refurbs aren't overhauled and checked fully. You never know until you get it so my advice is due some research new vs used vs refurbished. I bought console for $282 refurbished 500gb, the fan and tools run $28, power block $37(thought that was issue), then bought a used 1tb w gm bundle for $224(before I realized 500gb was overheating) to replace my 500gb console that I thought I lost to drive failure. I'll keep old one after I refurbish it again but point is if you get a warranty take it, Microsoft call agents aren't much help as they read a scripted routine and reset console attempts don't fix all problems. Don't get me wrong I love the consoles graphics and capabilities just wish Microsoft put more effort into quality parts instead of rushing to market to make huge profits at holiday season.