Ben Rhodes, former deputy of national security for President Obama, told journalist Nicholas Ballasy that the Obama administration was unaware and uninvolved in the FBI’s investigation into then-candidate Donald Trump.

“Literally, I learned about the investigation into Trump as a private citizen in the freaking Washington Post,” Rhodes said.

When asked about the dossier, Rhodes insisted he had nothing to do with.

“I saw it—I heard about it at the very end in 2017. We weren’t, like, involved in commissioning the dossier. We learned about it when it was in the report that was appended to the report that went to Congress at the end of the administration,” he said.

Watch the full interview here.

While Rhodes maintains the Obama administration’s innocence, unredacted copies of text messages suggest otherwise. Former FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page served on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation when their anti-Trump text messages were leaked. “The White House is running this,” one text read.

Between 2016 and 2017, Obama For America (OFA), Obama’s official campaign organization, paid nearly a million dollars to the same law firm that funneled money to Fusion GPS, the firm behind the Steele dossier.

OFA, which managed Obama’s successful re-election campaign in 2012, retooled after that campaign to focus on enacting the president’s agenda during his final term in office. The group reorganized again after the 2016 election and planned to use its staff and resources to oppose President Donald Trump. During the entire 2016 campaign cycle, the group spent only $4.5 million, according to FEC records.

Of course, this is not the first time Rhodes has been caught in a lie. Rhodes’ track record for fiction includes the Benghazi talking points characterizing the 9/11 terror attack as a response to a YouTube clip, lying about the U.S. vetting process of Syrian refugees, and the “echo chamber” he created to sell Obama’s failed Iran deal.