Papa Emeritus of Ghost has apparently come clean about the band’s lineup changes and ongoing legal issues, according to a new report from Theprp.com.

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As previously covered by AP, four former Nameless Ghouls of Ghost—who would normally remain anonymous in line with the metal band’s mythology—have publicly outed themselves in a lawsuit against Papa for “missing wages and allowances for several years.”

Now, Papa Emeritus (aka Tobias Forge) has confronted the recent Ghost news in a chat with Radio Metal. Portions of the interview, originally published in French, have been transcribed by Theprp.com.

Perhaps most notable are Papa’s claims that Ghost was “never formed as a band,” and has always featured a rotating lineup around him:

“I can not tell you the whole story but without going into the details, the whole thing, and it’s a fact, is that Ghost was never formed as a band and its first line-up was formed after the first album was recorded, and it was only a live line-up. And from this line-up, it has changed many times.”

Emeritus also reveals that there was never a specific contract preventing Nameless Ghouls from revealing their identities, only an unspoken agreement:

“I think one of the mistakes was not putting pressure on them and not imposing a contract on them [laughs]. Let’s just say that obviously there was no such clause, because I thought that it was [tacitly] part of our agreement, but it was not, so … There was not a formal prohibition of revealing his identity.”

The Nameless Ghoul lineup currently working with Papa Emeritus as Ghost are reportedly all new members.