SUSANNE CRAIG:

Well, the thing is, sometimes, it's — these conflicts and potential conflicts exist, and it's simply that you don't know a lot of conversations that are going on, which is why there is a call for him to divest the assets.

I mean, you can't — you can't have your children run them and then not know what the assets are, and especially in the case of real estate. These are fixed assets. He knows the financials of them.

So, unless there's a full divestiture, there's just — there's no way that these either real conflicts or potential conflicts come up. And the other thing that's of concern is that he hasn't released his taxes. We don't have a full picture of his financial situation and foreign holdings.

There's just — there's so much going on here, and it's just — sometimes, we're just never even going to know if stuff happens because we don't even know, you know, that there is even a conflict.

I did a story earlier this year, and he had he had released a number of his lenders. And it turns out he'd only released loans in which the Trump Organization, in which there was 100 percent ownership of the property behind it. We found loans on partnerships that weren't disclosed and so on.

It's just — it was sort of mind-boggling when I started to do this, this summer on just the potential for what wasn't there and what we were finding. And this is a situation where I just don't think we're ever going to be sure, unless there is a divestiture, that there isn't something going on or there is the potential for something to go on. And it's troubling.