TelecoM Profile Blog Joined January 2010 United States 10256 Posts #21 This is awesome news, I am very pleased to hear this. Not sure why people would try to see this as a negative thing, I guess they are still upset about RM issues. I was thinking about it, and there really isn't that much of a difference between the long que times and the length that it would take you to find a game above C on iCCup in the past.



It is actually a lot easier to find a game even if you have to wait several minutes, compared to how hard it was back in the day to find an evenly matched opponent manually, the auto matchmaking system is better than what we had really I guess. AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting

[sc1f]eonzerg Profile Blog Joined February 2010 Belgium 5927 Posts #22 On March 06 2018 05:52 GGzerG wrote:

This is awesome news, I am very pleased to hear this. Not sure why people would try to see this as a negative thing, I guess they are still upset about RM issues. I was thinking about it, and there really isn't that much of a difference between the long que times and the length that it would take you to find a game above C on iCCup in the past.



It is actually a lot easier to find a game even if you have to wait several minutes, compared to how hard it was back in the day to find an evenly matched opponent manually, the auto matchmaking system is better than what we had really I guess.

i never waited 1 hour. i never waited 1 hour.

lestye Profile Joined August 2010 United States 3182 Posts #23 On March 06 2018 04:43 Grettin wrote:

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On March 06 2018 04:35 lestye wrote:

On March 06 2018 04:28 Grettin wrote:

On March 06 2018 04:06 Cryoc wrote:

Sounds like another showmatch at Blizzcon and an announcement.



If there's an blizzcon this year. If there is though, i wouldn't be surprised to see a small tournament there. If there's an blizzcon this year. If there is though, i wouldn't be surprised to see a small tournament there.

There is most certainly will be. It was re-confirmed when they announced their WoW esports plan this year.

There is most certainly will be. It was re-confirmed when they announced their WoW esports plan this year.



That i missed. But yeah. What they could have this year is shit ton of esports, but thats about it. Unless they pull out Diablo 4, there won't be anything but HoTS, Overwatch, Hearthstone and i guess the new "mobile game", whatever that ends up being. Most stuff would probably be teased and shown at Gamescom, just like in the past. Blizzard would definitely have time for smaller tournaments whether it'd be WC3 or BW. That i missed. But yeah. What they could have this year is shit ton of esports, but thats about it. Unless they pull out Diablo 4, there won't be anything but HoTS, Overwatch, Hearthstone and i guess the new "mobile game", whatever that ends up being. Most stuff would probably be teased and shown at Gamescom, just like in the past. Blizzard would definitely have time for smaller tournaments whether it'd be WC3 or BW.

That's not too strange. Thats what 2016 essentially was. Announcements of content patches/ hearthstone expansion and no big announcements + esports. That's not too strange. Thats what 2016 essentially was. Announcements of content patches/ hearthstone expansion and no big announcements + esports. "You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood

Dazed. Profile Blog Joined March 2008 Canada 3301 Posts #24 Given what blizzard did to sc2 with wcs, and given what blizzard has just recently attempted to do to ASL-- I do not consider this a good news, but more like some ominous declaration from a malicious and dystopic government. Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.

BigFan Profile Blog Joined December 2010 TLADT 24439 Posts #25 On March 06 2018 05:46 L_Master wrote:

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On March 06 2018 05:45 TOIHOIs wrote:

On March 06 2018 05:37 BigFan wrote:

Guys, don't feed the troll please. Also, other comment was talking about the KR scene and it was true. I hope whatever they plan to organize does not interfere with ASL. We already lost ATB, don't want to see ASL out of the scene as well.

Trolling? Thats ok. You guys will be happy with blaming Blizzard. Good Luck Trolling? Thats ok. You guys will be happy with blaming Blizzard. Good Luck



When you say something like "Was the foreign community a thing before remastered happend?" you're quite obviously trolling.



Honestly, your angle is quite uncreative, but it's certainly effective. You'll get plenty of angry responses with the line your taking.



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On March 06 2018 05:37 BigFan wrote:

Guys, don't feed the troll please. Also, other comment was talking about the KR scene and it was true. I hope whatever they plan to organize does not interfere with ASL. We already lost ATB, don't want to see ASL out of the scene as well.



Might be having a dense moment here, but which comment are you referring to by "other comment". When you say something like "Was the foreign community a thing before remastered happend?" you're quite obviously trolling.Honestly, your angle is quite uncreative, but it's certainly effective. You'll get plenty of angry responses with the line your taking.Might be having a dense moment here, but which comment are you referring to by "other comment".

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Grettin Profile Joined April 2010 32020 Posts #26 On March 06 2018 06:09 lestye wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 06 2018 04:43 Grettin wrote:

On March 06 2018 04:35 lestye wrote:

On March 06 2018 04:28 Grettin wrote:

On March 06 2018 04:06 Cryoc wrote:

Sounds like another showmatch at Blizzcon and an announcement.



If there's an blizzcon this year. If there is though, i wouldn't be surprised to see a small tournament there. If there's an blizzcon this year. If there is though, i wouldn't be surprised to see a small tournament there.

There is most certainly will be. It was re-confirmed when they announced their WoW esports plan this year.

There is most certainly will be. It was re-confirmed when they announced their WoW esports plan this year.



That i missed. But yeah. What they could have this year is shit ton of esports, but thats about it. Unless they pull out Diablo 4, there won't be anything but HoTS, Overwatch, Hearthstone and i guess the new "mobile game", whatever that ends up being. Most stuff would probably be teased and shown at Gamescom, just like in the past. Blizzard would definitely have time for smaller tournaments whether it'd be WC3 or BW. That i missed. But yeah. What they could have this year is shit ton of esports, but thats about it. Unless they pull out Diablo 4, there won't be anything but HoTS, Overwatch, Hearthstone and i guess the new "mobile game", whatever that ends up being. Most stuff would probably be teased and shown at Gamescom, just like in the past. Blizzard would definitely have time for smaller tournaments whether it'd be WC3 or BW.

That's not too strange. Thats what 2016 essentially was. Announcements of content patches/ hearthstone expansion and no big announcements + esports. That's not too strange. Thats what 2016 essentially was. Announcements of content patches/ hearthstone expansion and no big announcements + esports.



Very true. Very true. "If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu

ProMeTheus112 Profile Joined December 2009 France 1590 Posts #27 also never waited 1h on iccup at all above C+ it was a lot faster not to mention the interface was faster and less bugs lol, most of the time found games quickly in fact (on 500pop)

TelecoM Profile Blog Joined January 2010 United States 10256 Posts #28 On March 06 2018 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 06 2018 05:52 GGzerG wrote:

This is awesome news, I am very pleased to hear this. Not sure why people would try to see this as a negative thing, I guess they are still upset about RM issues. I was thinking about it, and there really isn't that much of a difference between the long que times and the length that it would take you to find a game above C on iCCup in the past.



It is actually a lot easier to find a game even if you have to wait several minutes, compared to how hard it was back in the day to find an evenly matched opponent manually, the auto matchmaking system is better than what we had really I guess.

i never waited 1 hour. i never waited 1 hour.

I didn't realize you had to wait 1 hour to play a game at your MMR, that is crazy....what MMR does it usually take that long at? I've hit 2200 max so far on a few accounts, but never waited longer than say 5-6 min really. I guess once I hit higher MMR it really starts to start sucking =p I didn't realize you had to wait 1 hour to play a game at your MMR, that is crazy....what MMR does it usually take that long at? I've hit 2200 max so far on a few accounts, but never waited longer than say 5-6 min really. I guess once I hit higher MMR it really starts to start sucking =p AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting

PVJ Profile Blog Joined July 2012 Hungary 4790 Posts Last Edited: 2018-03-06 00:29:35 #29 On March 06 2018 04:45 Lorch wrote:

Hah, I guess that community out lash over ASL 5 really got through to the higher ups at Blizzard.

Let's hope that this means that Afreeca will be allowed to run ASL 6 whenever they want and maybe we'll even see a return of ATB. Hopefully, rather than asking for the rumored 88k, they'll actually start to pay orgs to run tourneys like they do with SC2. I would love to finally see a new OSL and I'm sure it's easier to attract sponsors if Blizzard is giving money instead of asking for it.



I'd also love to see some more events in the style of Twitch Holiday Clash etc. for the foreign scene, but with actual top players rather than the usual old guard who don't even practice that much.

>Hah, I guess that community out lash over ASL 5 really got through to the higher ups at Blizzard.



Here's my fear: What if this is not the effect but the cause of the ASL stall?



What if Blizzard just wanted to ask behind the scenes to run a tournament while Afreeca folds ASL and then that didn't go well so now they are going on the offensive with organising and announcing some meeting in April?



I know, I've re-read what I said, and it does sound paranoid. But based on the unnecessary stifling from the Kespa wars all the way to the ATB and Clan league prohibition(? -- not sure exactly, why these were never organised again after the schedule got messed up by Blizzard's Remastered push) news like this just bring the worst sceptic out of me.



Putting these thoughts aside I'm fully wishing for the things you write up in your comment. Having a stable schedule for tourneys, some challenger spots for newcomers, Holiday Clashes for the foreigners, and some teams apparently, based on the quotes, would be a dream come true.



But I am afraid it doesn't sound like a dream for nothing. >Hah, I guess that community out lash over ASL 5 really got through to the higher ups at Blizzard.Here's my fear: What if this is not thebut theof the ASL stall?What if Blizzard just wanted to ask behind the scenes to run a tournament while Afreeca folds ASL and then that didn't go well so now they are going on the offensive with organising and announcing some meeting in April?I know, I've re-read what I said, and it does sound paranoid. But based on the unnecessary stifling from the Kespa wars all the way to the ATB and Clan league prohibition(? -- not sure exactly, why these were never organised again after the schedule got messed up by Blizzard's Remastered push) news like this just bring the worst sceptic out of me.Putting these thoughts aside I'm fully wishing for the things you write up in your comment. Having a stable schedule for tourneys, some challenger spots for newcomers, Holiday Clashes for the foreigners, and some teams apparently, based on the quotes, would be a dream come true.But I am afraid it doesn't sound like a dream for nothing. The heart's eternal vow

mishimaBeef Profile Blog Joined January 2010 Canada 2256 Posts #30 can't you guys just find opponents traditional iccup style and agree to queue at same time? even iccup had a limit on number of times you could play the same opponent... i don't think queueing at the same time as a pre-searched opponent for a few games a week is going to result in a ban or anything constituting abuse of the ladder?



just thinking out loud here but it seems like the matchmaker didn't take anything away from the old system? maybe i'm missing something here... maybe it's the lag side of things people keep talking about? i don't know what the state of that is really Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Farkinator Profile Joined August 2010 United States 260 Posts #31 On March 06 2018 05:52 GGzerG wrote:

Not sure why people would try to see this as a negative thing, I guess they are still upset about RM issues.



No, not really. It's because while KeSPA was by no means a perfect organization, meddling by Blizzard only served to further damage the scene. Now we're at a point in Brood War's history where there are basically 0 professional Starcraft teams, and the quality of play has been lacking save for the people we knew were great in the first place. People like Mind and such have been hyped up but without a very robust scene (IE a team league and a bunch of teams playing in houses) there's no opportunity for players to accelerate in skill at the pace that they used to.



Not to mention that Blizzard very recently almost managed to fuck up Brood War's resurgence by throwing a spanner in the works of ASL Season 5.



Nobody trusts Blizzard in the SCBW community because they've proven time and time again that they shouldn't be trusted. No, not really. It's because while KeSPA was by no means a perfect organization, meddling by Blizzard only served to further damage the scene. Now we're at a point in Brood War's history where there are basically 0 professional Starcraft teams, and the quality of play has been lacking save for the people we knew were great in the first place. People like Mind and such have been hyped up but without a very robust scene (IE a team league and a bunch of teams playing in houses) there's no opportunity for players to accelerate in skill at the pace that they used to.Not to mention that Blizzard very recently almost managed to fuck up Brood War's resurgence by throwing a spanner in the works of ASL Season 5.Nobody trusts Blizzard in the SCBW community because they've proven time and time again that they shouldn't be trusted. Get some bases, smash some faces.

Trozz Profile Blog Joined November 2008 Canada 3334 Posts #32 Some hope for the best

While others expect the worst.

I agree with both. A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.

Shock710 Profile Blog Joined December 2009 Australia 5505 Posts Last Edited: 2018-03-06 04:27:40 #33 It would be really awesome to see like a huge qualifer group thing for foreigners and koreans, like how they did multiple qualifiers for TSL, it would be awesome to see something like

10 Korean qualifiers (top 2 get in from each)

5 American qualifiers (top 2 get in from each)

5 Eu qualifiers (top 2 get in from each)

3 SEA/AU/NZ qualifiers (top 2 again)



and if they cant do it that big, than cut them in half, 5,5,5,2. oh one can dream. I personally dont mind that the koreans will probably win 90% of their games (if not 100%) in the main tournament but seeing foreigners vs koreans is just always awesome! AND its not like they cant take games off the koreans i believe!!. (as for SCAN, hes korean and good enough to enter through the korean qualifiers)



Or what will be even more awesome is they instead did equal qualifier spots then had a team battle proleague style. Hell we can even put some 2v2 into it as just like the good old days. dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!

IntoTheEmo Profile Joined February 2009 Singapore 1159 Posts #34 Gotta be cautious about the hype. I just hope this isn't a one-off tournament type of deal in line with commemorating SC turning 20. MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010

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