PBS host Charlie Rose on Monday night embraced many of Bernie Sanders’s positions and announced that the socialist’s positions are “not radical.” At first, the journalist suggested the Democratic candidate not use the label when campaigning: “I'm the first person trying to argue you away from the idea that you're a socialist.”

Rose told Sanders, “But you don't believe that the state should control your life.” The senator began reciting his positions: “We need to make public colleges and universities tuition-free. We need to praise raise the minimum-wage to $15 an hour over the next few years.”

Rose, who is also a co-host on CBS This Morning, continued to define socialism down, insisting, “There are a whole lot of people who believe the first step towards income equality or to eliminate income inequality is a $15 an hour minimum-wage.... I'm just saying, these are not radical ideas.”

The journalist’s gushing interviews also include Hillary Clinton. On July 17, 2014, he began an interview with “friend” Clinton by actually reading a gooey Maya Angelou poem:

There is a world of difference between being a woman and a being an old female. If you're born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the times she takes up and the space she occupies. Hillary Clinton is a woman.

A partial transcript from the PBS program is below: