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LegendaryActivity: 1358Merit: 1002Ron Gross Can we create a truly democratic crypto-currency (possible use - voting)? November 14, 2013, 12:07:46 PM #1 FYI this mind-blowing idea was given to me by someone, whom I wish not to expose at this point.

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Have there been any attempts at creating a "cryptocurrency" that isn't based on money, but rather on human beings?



The goal:



To see whether we can create a cryptocurrency that lets every human vote on issues.



Possible angle of attack

Base the cryptocurrency on hashed fingerprints.



Each human in the world (mostly) has a unique unforgable fingerprint.

We distribute voting machines to all places of the earth (even on smartphones etc.)



These voting machines are in fact a p2p network using a public ledger/blockchain.



When a person votes, a cryptographic time-dependent hash of his fingerprint is created and distributed over the network.

The hashing algorithm depends on the issue that is being voted.



E.g. if we ask the world "Who do you love more, dad or mom?", the hashing algorithm turns each fingerprint into a unique vote for this specific question and broadcasts it into the network, and results are revealed.





Use Case

World government. Instead of the semi-centralized / hierarchical government structure we have today, we can have a truly decentralized, anonymous government for the entire earth.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 362Merit: 250 Re: Can we create a truly democratic crypto-currency (possible use - voting)? November 14, 2013, 12:17:52 PM #4 Quote from: ripper234 on November 14, 2013, 12:07:46 PM Each human in the world (mostly) has a unique unforgable fingerprint.



Actually, most people have ten. And you can easily make a computer program that can generate endless numbers of fingerprints.



In addition, you cannot "hash" a fingerprint directly, because each scan will be slightly different, which will make the hash of it very different and the hash will not match the original one.



There may be a way to do this, but I doubt it will have anything to do with fingerprints! Actually, most people have ten. And you can easily make a computer program that can generate endless numbers of fingerprints.In addition, you cannot "hash" a fingerprint directly, because each scan will be slightly different, which will make the hash of it very different and the hash will not match the original one.There may be a way to do this, but I doubt it will have anything to do with fingerprints!

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aka snapsunnyLegendaryActivity: 1078Merit: 1003 Re: Can we create a truly democratic crypto-currency (possible use - voting)? November 14, 2013, 12:42:53 PM #7 It's a cool idea, but the concept conflicts with the goal; if it's decentralized law you're seeking, democracy is the last thing you want. What you want is to decentralize lawmakers, not voters; the voters are already decentralized well enough. Democracy's only purpose is to centralize law and give the illusion of choice; you still need a hierarchy for the creation of law and law enforcement, otherwise what's the point in a democracy?--you're better off passing laws with your peers. Better than a democracy is a course in philosophy; then you can do out of free will what others can only do out of fear of law.



Also, who is going to pay for all these machines? And who is going to wait in line for them? Digital Painting, Illustration, Character Art

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Jr. MemberActivity: 81Merit: 1 Re: Can we create a truly democratic crypto-currency (possible use - voting)? March 26, 2014, 07:31:53 PM #14 Quote from: ripper234 on November 14, 2013, 12:07:46 PM FYI this mind-blowing idea was given to me by someone, whom I wish not to expose at this point.

They can join the discussion and reveal their identity if they wish.



Have there been any attempts at creating a "cryptocurrency" that isn't based on money, but rather on human beings?



The goal:



To see whether we can create a cryptocurrency that lets every human vote on issues.



Possible angle of attack

Base the cryptocurrency on hashed fingerprints.



Each human in the world (mostly) has a unique unforgable fingerprint.

We distribute voting machines to all places of the earth (even on smartphones etc.)



These voting machines are in fact a p2p network using a public ledger/blockchain.



When a person votes, a cryptographic time-dependent hash of his fingerprint is created and distributed over the network.

The hashing algorithm depends on the issue that is being voted.



E.g. if we ask the world "Who do you love more, dad or mom?", the hashing algorithm turns each fingerprint into a unique vote for this specific question and broadcasts it into the network, and results are revealed.





Use Case

World government. Instead of the semi-centralized / hierarchical government structure we have today, we can have a truly decentralized, anonymous government for the entire earth.





anonymity of voting is the requirement for fair elections/voting





Zero-knowledge proof!



this is the way to provide the anonymity!



like Zerocoin by Matthew Green





anonymity of voting is the requirement for fair elections/votingZero-knowledge proof! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof this is the way to provide the anonymity!like Zerocoin by Matthew Green http://zerocoin.org/

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LegendaryActivity: 1610Merit: 1000 Re: Can we create a truly democratic crypto-currency (possible use - voting)? March 26, 2014, 07:35:25 PM #15 Quote from: niothor on November 14, 2013, 12:14:07 PM Quote from: ripper234 on November 14, 2013, 12:07:46 PM FYI this mind-blowing idea was given to me by someone, whom I wish not to expose at this point.

They can join the discussion and reveal their identity if they wish.



Have there been any attempts at creating a "cryptocurrency" that isn't based on money, but rather on human beings?



The goal:



To see whether we can create a cryptocurrency that lets every human vote on issues.



Possible angle of attack

Base the cryptocurrency on hashed fingerprints.



Each human in the world (mostly) has a unique unforgable fingerprint.

We distribute voting machines to all places of the earth (even on smartphones etc.)



These voting machines are in fact a p2p network using a public ledger/blockchain.



When a person votes, a cryptographic time-dependent hash of his fingerprint is created and distributed over the network.

The hashing algorithm depends on the issue that is being voted.



E.g. if we ask the world "Who do you love more, dad or mom?", the hashing algorithm turns each fingerprint into a unique vote for this specific question and broadcasts it into the network, and results are revealed.





Use Case

World government. Instead of the semi-centralized / hierarchical government structure we have today, we can have a truly decentralized, anonymous government for the entire earth.





In my country , part of the UE , we have a small problem with water:

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/3-23022011-BP/EN/3-23022011-BP-EN.PDF

mostly access to running water and toilets.

*the paper is from 2009 but it has only changed by 5% in the last yeras



And you're telling me about fingerprint p2p voting system.

In my country , part of the UE , we have a small problem with water:mostly access to running water and toilets.*the paper is from 2009 but it has only changed by 5% in the last yerasAnd you're telling me about fingerprint p2p voting system.

Issues with water? KEEP ON FRACKING BOYS WE DO NOT CONTROL THE WATER MARKET YET! Issues with water? KEEP ON FRACKING BOYS WE DO NOT CONTROL THE WATER MARKET YET!