It seems the president-elect doesn't favor eye contact. During an appearance on the Bravo talk show Watch What Happens Live, Stephen Colbert played a game that involved spilling secrets about all the politicians he's interviewed over the years. When host Andy Cohen asked which one was the best at “avoiding the hard-hitting questions,” Colbert had a quick response: Donald Trump.

“He didn't even make eye contact,” Colbert recalls of their interview. “He sat there like a bad schoolboy being lectured.”

The Late Show host interviewed the president-elect back in September 2015, a few months after the reality-TV star announced his presidential bid. Colbert used the interview as an opportunity to apologize to Trump for past jokes he's made, then gave Trump a chance to apologize in return. The then-candidate declined. He also later refused to answer Colbert's question about whether he believes President Barack Obama was born in the United States. “I don’t talk about it,” Trump responded. “I talk about jobs, I talk about veterans being horribly treated.” (It was later reported that despite a recent $1 million donation, he is not quite as charitable toward veterans as he claims to be, and is apparently less sympathetic toward veterans with PTSD).

Also on Watch What Happens, Colbert said he would love to be best friends with Bernie Sanders (“I like a rumpled man”), and that Joe Biden was the nicest to his staff. The V.P. even called Colbert’s in-laws and “left a message saying how beautiful my wife is.”

Since that 2015 interview with Trump—which drew some flack for being less hard-hitting than Colbert fans hoped it would be—Colbert has returned to cracking jokes at the politician's expense. He's also repeatedly invited actress Laura Benanti on the show for a recurring bit in which she plays a perma-smizing Melania Trump.

Colbert has also had President Obama on his show and once slyly compared Trump to a “shriveled tangerine covered in golden retriever hair filled with bile that I wouldn’t leave alone with the woman I love.” He must not be feeling very apologetic these days.