Rep. Thomas Massie supported Rand Paul in the primary and is considered a star for the "liberty movement." I spoke with him at the Republican National Convention. Here's some of our conversation:

How do you plan on voting in November?

I'll be voting for Trump. ... I'm more of a "glass is half-full" than a "glass is half-empty" kind of person.

In what ways is Trump half-full?

Well, he's better than 90 percent of the congressmen I serve with. ... I'm serious.

No. 1, he's not owned. Nobody owns him. That rules out a lot of them.

No. 2, he's got real business experience. If I see another candidate that runs as a small businessman that was a lawyer or a doctor that had, like, a personal practice, I'm gonna scream. Because they never had a board of directors, they never had a balance sheet, they never had marketing, they never had product development, I mean they never had a real business, per se.

He's done that, mutiple times.

Do you think Trump could hurt the GOP and the cause of liberty?

He might be the only one of the 17 that ran in this primary that could win in the general election. Numerically, with the message we had, we were almost stillborn going into the general with the electoral map that exists. Trump has changed the map. Pennsylvania's in play. Michigan's in play.

He's anti-free trade.

I've heard him say he's for bilateral trade deals, not these giant things where we give up a lot of our sovereignty. ... I'm not a big fan of the World Trade Organization myself. I just watched us change our labelling requirements on food in this country because the World Trade Organzation told us to. ... I don't think that just because you're for sovereignty, you're against trade.

Timothy P. Carney, The Washington Examiner's senior political columnist, can be contacted at tcarney@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears Tuesday and Thursday nights on washingtonexaminer.com.