Clevinger said: I think I'm the opposite of everyone in here. I thought the pilot and the first seven or so eps were the strongest because there was this overwhelming sense of hopelessness to Gotham, where everything is corrupt and fucked and it truly needs something like Batman to come along, where Gordon feels like he's on borrowed time because a normal good guy like him can't survive there.



Somewhere along the way the show lost that feeling and it's become a lot less interesting to me. Click to expand...

Any good show or book or story in general about hopelessness had some glimmers of hope shine through, even if it only exists in the characters mind. It's simply an inevitably because there is no story to "Everything sucks and it literally can't be helped so lets not do anything". If it were so, it immediately defeats the purpose of telling the story, because from the getgo your characters actions are purposeless. Even if it is purposeless, the characters can't believe that. I'm not saying it can't be done, as I think anything can be done if done right, but I personally have never seen a wholly dark story. There's even a trope for it . So Gordon coming in and kicking atleast some ass is pretty much inevitable.I do agree with you on the latter episodes what with Gordon managing to somehow make Falcone leave Gotham though. That's a very big move. Gotham has a very difficult challenge in that it has to pave the way for Batman, while also making progress with Gordon. I had imagined (and still expect it to) that it Gordon's ability to make things better will have limited short term effect before the darkness of Gotham doubles down on him, necessitating something beyond the law to save it. That's how I anticipate things to go down anyway, but Gotham has surprised be before.But the only reason the latter episodes were as effective is because the first 7 had that atmosphere of hopelessness, which made Gordon's actual changes awesome and (more importantly) meaningful. I'm just wondering where it will go from here.