At Vanity Fair’s New Establishment Summit in San Francisco on Tuesday Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos was joined onstage by Bryan Lourd of Creative Artists Agency for a conversation moderated by CBS’s Mellody Hobson. Among the topics discussed: the future of Hollywood, and how Netflix—with its hefty 65-million-subscribers audience—is making an undeniable impact on how television, and now movies, are being made. Beyond Netflix’s knack for stealing our weekends with endless binge-watchable TV, Sarandos implies his company might just save the mid-level movie.

Sarandos claimed that the TV business should spend less time worrying about Netflix, and more time worrying about the changing behaviors of audiences. “[TV] is still a matter of swinging for the fences,” he said, noting that Netflix uses data to “size the audience, the potential universe” for a potential film or TV series. Sarandos also reiterated that Netflix would not join the ratings race because “ratings keep people from taking risks.” Risk-taking content aimed at niche audiences has become the hallmark of the new online streaming platforms like Netflix and Amazon.

But with all these stories to be made, Hobson asked, why do we keep seeing the same movie over and over? “How many cities do we need to watch be destroyed?” “Right,” Sarandos answered, taking a gentle shot against the superhero film bow. “How many guys in capes can there be to do it?” While Sarandos is obviously not completely averse to the superhero genre (the gritty but notably cape-less Marvel series Daredevil was Netflix’s most-watched series of 2015), he pointed out that as studios get more and more concerned chasing superhero narratives and massive spectacle blockbusters that will play internationally, the mid-level movie is being edged out. Enter Netflix.

“There are movies that people really want to watch that are no longer being made and no longer being put in movie theaters because studios don’t want to make them anymore,” Sarandos said before talking about the buzz-worthy Netflix film Beasts of No Nation. The movie from director Cary Fukunaga and starring Idris Elba premiered at the Toronto Film Festival amongst other Oscar hopefuls. The film will go on to premiere in select movie theaters on October 16, the same day it airs on Netflix. “So people will have a chance to see it on the big screen,” Sarandos insists.

But not every big screen. Sarandos admits that massive theater chains like AMC and Regal refused to show Beasts of No Nation, perhaps as part of pushback against Netflix cannibalizing their audience. Sarandos concludes that he’s not trying to cannibalize Hollywood, he’s trying to “make the movie business bigger.” One small screen at a time.