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Filmmakers Rob Epstein and Jeffrey Friedman (STATE OF PRIDE and LINDA RONDSTADT: THE SOUND OF MY VOICE) join Matt & Dave for a panel discussion at the Provincetown International Film Festival. They share about how they met their partners (at a film festival & a Thanksgiving dinner), their past romantic relationship with each other, and their coming out stories. They talk about San Francisco in the 70s, aging in the queer community, and then take audience questions. Then in an interview with ally Paul F. Tompkins, we jump in with Dave’s story about his wild morning, and discuss the importance of manners with RSVP-ing and responding, as well as living that empty inbox lifestyle. Paul then shares his struggles as a teenager at a Catholic school wrestling with lustful thoughts and the guilt that accompanied them, his core philosophies now as an adult, learning that other people’s different experiences inform their opinions, and understanding queerness after his experience in the Catholic church.