David Barton joined televangelist Kenneth Copeland last year for a video series called “Choose Life and The Blessing” where the two discussed how voters earn either God’s blessing or wrath depending on who they support. Barton and Copeland agreed that voting for candidates who support LGBT equality are asking for punishment from God, and also insisted that gay people simply do not exist because homosexuality is not innate.

Copeland grouped gays and lesbians with murderers and thieves, saying that God would never create people to be gay in the same way God would never create people to kill others. Barton concurred and claimed that “science just got changed this year” with the issue of so-called “ex-gays,” which he says “has changed the entire psychological, psychiatric world.” According to Barton, “science has now figured out, ‘you know God was right,’” and that people can ‘leave’ homosexuality and become heterosexual.

Barton has been known to promote ‘ex-gay’ reparative therapy and has argued that gay rights are “impossible.” Despite Barton’s contention, the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the National Association of Social Workers and the American Psychiatric Association all deny the efficacy, safety and science of reparative therapy.

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