mukk.barovian: im down is looking to undock carriers

mukk.barovian: I think this is a terrible idea

mukk.barovian: i wish he would go kill a 60 man test drake fleet or something

mukk.barovian: the only activity I see from him is wanting to have carriers fight nastys on station

Makalu: and tomorrow he'll want to login supers

mukk.barovian: id be much happier if he managed to win some fleet fights

smith: he's like Elena

Makalu: i'm either stupid

Makalu: or dumb or something

Makalu: or this is the fucking worst 20 minutes of fleet comms i've ever heard

Makalu: never ever let this guy fc anything half serious

Herc: r we talking about i'm down?

smithjdj: c

Herc: i spoke with him yesterday

Herc: told he to take it easy

Herc: so today we r trying to undock carriers...

Herc: thats

Herc: "interesting"

Kain Rehel [BUSA]: i think we just lost a jf on station to pl, after i did a global not to undock lol

Lee: RDN ran faster than you could say the dot in their name. They didn't even RF the POS on their way out. Unlucky for us the hictor got decloaked too early and the PL cyno masters had ran out of ozone :-/.

avisarfaraz: well, we just need to keep up attacks

avisarfaraz: and keep mopping them up

avisarfaraz: until we can crub their supers

markus.dixon: they keep dropping NAPOCS

markus.dixon: as the answer

alchemy-x: we have an answer for that as well

alchemy-x: https://a-killed.me/...l&kll_id=806438 << there ya go

markus.dixon: Damn rights Thrashers.

avisarfaraz: good stuff

markus.dixon: are we *ACTUALLY* having a hard time getting Dictors/Hictors in fleet?

avisarfaraz: then we need to kill those

avisarfaraz: we could field mass napocs ~exbob~

avisarfaraz: we need to mop that fleet off the field

avisarfaraz: we've been taking higher than average losses against them as well.

avisarfaraz: If we cant beat that with tengus we can just field our own

Fafer: avicena they have upper hand ith that dread+carriers covered-by supers circle of escalation

Fafer: our napocs would not work

Lee: Farasoloni > good call.. no need to fight 20 dreads v

Avicenna Sarfaraz: they will always have numbers, we need to beat them with firepower

Avicenna Sarfaraz: supers + supers + more supers

Markus Dixon: We need to beat them with Willpower.

Fafer: we need 50 more supers

Makalu: sooner or later PL will leave

Markus Dixon: Whining about "THEY HAVE MOAR THAN US" is tiring

Makalu: PL always leaves

Markus Dixon: Always

Avicenna Sarfaraz: well, if we mop their supers off the field

Avicenna Sarfaraz: which we can....

Fafer: this is a bit different if that moon buff with R64 works out for them

Avicenna Sarfaraz: then there will be no problems

Makalu: avi they have 3x our super amount

Fafer: then they will stay

Makalu: u don't just mop it off the field

Makalu: they rr circle-jerk 700k dps worth of reps

Avicenna Sarfaraz: then we need to focus on getting more of our own supers

Makalu: well we have over 200 supers

Fafer: avicena yes

Avicenna Sarfaraz: bcause this being outnumbered in supers is fucking annoying

Makalu: they just don't login

Fafer: lets grind some and throw 300-400 supers on them

Avicenna Sarfaraz: well, I'll see what I can do.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: on my end.

Fafer: and then mop up to north lol

Avicenna Sarfaraz: we did it to the DRF

Avicenna Sarfaraz: we'll do it the NC

eleila.dostoyevskitty: so if we do log in all super at once and throw at them... thats a pretty big surprise attack!

Avicenna Sarfaraz: you just need one fight to do that

Avicenna Sarfaraz: but those supers would have to stay active multiple days

Avicenna Sarfaraz: until we got the fight

eleila.dostoyevskitty: kinda like how MM got owned by PL eh?

Avicenna Sarfaraz: kind of like how PL got owned by IT

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I dislike the notion that they are supposedly better than us and we cannot fight them toe to toe

Makalu: you don't get super numbers until u start using supers actively for at least some time

Lee: we cannto suprise them

Lee: like they cannto suprise

Lee: us

Avicenna Sarfaraz: then dont

Lee: 2 many spyes

Avicenna Sarfaraz: just roll them

Avicenna Sarfaraz: It did not care, it just put the dick on the table

Makalu: and we can't use supers in our preset state

Makalu: i already used them once

Avicenna Sarfaraz: yeah

Makalu: and we all saw the result

Lee: yep

Makalu: they had 100 super son the field

Makalu: we've never even fucking fielded 100 supers

Avicenna Sarfaraz: well, corps have not been working on getting new supers and new super pilots

Lee: just do this psihycal war..push them..raiden push them..2 time today they go to fountain for nothing

Lee: etc etc

Avicenna Sarfaraz: its a scaling problem

Makalu: the only time we even came close was c-j

Makalu: with solar

Makalu: we had over 100 yes

Makalu: but that took months of war

Makalu: and omg everyone log in cta

Makk: I see avi is online, I like your speeches about justice and tire irons , how you been man???

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if people arent interested in getting supers and KEEPing them on standby we get this prbolem.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I've been good

Avicenna Sarfaraz: either way I will leave it to the pros of the war

Fafer: we are doing good goven the circumstances, and its good strategy, but i feel we need to build and/or get more supers regardless - perhaps we can combine with raiden

Makalu: i still maintain that u don't need to drop supers to win

Makalu: but that's me

Avicenna Sarfaraz: well, I want to kill those supers

Makk: Thak says we should come together one day and drink like mad, how do u feel bout that

Avicenna Sarfaraz: iI dont just want to win the war

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I want to crush PL

Avicenna Sarfaraz: and by crush I mean rape them in berlin crush

Makalu: can we stay on topic here

Avicenna Sarfaraz: anyways yes

Lee: problem is they ar eusing regulr caps in format and to counter that quality we need to use caps and if we use caps they will use supers and we cant use them..so we just need to push and we will c who go crazy first..

Lee: ceos directors to explain members etc etc

Avicenna Sarfaraz: RUTZ will have to start doing lots of damage

Avicenna Sarfaraz: on my end we'll kick the pilots into gear

Makalu: rutz can't win a ustz war

Avicenna Sarfaraz: its not about winning

Avicenna Sarfaraz: its about butchering

Avicenna Sarfaraz: causing lots of havoc

Makalu: these people don't care if they die

Makalu: they lost 15k ships last month

Makalu: most alliances would disband

Avicenna Sarfaraz: then we help them out of them

Makalu: after losing 15k ships

Avicenna Sarfaraz: you beat someone with a tire iron hard enough

Avicenna Sarfaraz: eventually they go braindead

Avicenna Sarfaraz: and eventually they stop breathing

Avicenna Sarfaraz: they need to lose the big fights with their egoes on the line

Lee: this will be long and most of time borgin war and we need to exaplin ppl..so no commetns like why w dont jump in them etc etc..

Avicenna Sarfaraz: when they realize they ar egoing to die, they will panic

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if they dont care its our job as -A- to ramp up killing them

Avicenna Sarfaraz: 24/7

Avicenna Sarfaraz: every minute

Avicenna Sarfaraz: every day

Avicenna Sarfaraz: every major system

Lee: we cant m8

Makalu: what do u think we've been doing? :P

Lee: be realistic

Avicenna Sarfaraz: yes

Lee: we ar epushing them hard but we cant hit major systems

Makalu: well we can

Makalu: we've done it to drf

Makalu: but that was a bit different

Fafer: it was different

Avicenna Sarfaraz: this war machine is driven by ideology

Makalu: drf actually eventually cared if they lost shit

Avicenna Sarfaraz: you have to break em

Avicenna Sarfaraz: they wont break easily because they are loyal to reddit/sa

Fafer: we will need to rf something so it gets out in our tz

Avicenna Sarfaraz: its a matter of decapitating their super / cap supremacy

Fafer: i think we can alarmclock moe than them

Makalu: nothing will get out in our tz

Avicenna Sarfaraz: which until we can counter they have an advantage

Makalu: everything is fucking timed for ustz

Makalu: and that's where we won the drf war

Makalu: it wasn't all fucking timed for god knows what

Makalu: except for c-j6

Makalu: which was one system

Makalu: which we brought 1000 people for eventually

Lee: if they dotn use caps ok Hey You asked me todya 10 tiems to use sueprs on them i say no, so no caps no chance for us to make them like 40 50 bilions

Makalu: and roflstomped them

Fafer: well, we continue what we do ofc .. and get more supers

Lee: we can make like 5 10 20 max

Lee: yep

Fafer: i would like to kill their supers

Lee: only that we can

Lee:

Makalu: u don't fucking get more supers

Makalu: as u get new supers

Makalu: old supers go afk

Makalu: the total number of active supers never fucking goes up

Makalu: if i ask for supers right now i'll get 10

Makalu: maybe 15

Lee: yep

TJ: ye

TJ: but we need to use them

TJ: if we use them often

TJ: people have them

TJ: keep them

Fafer: no - how then others get that numbers

TJ: but right now

TJ: we dont use them

Fafer: they did effort ove time

TJ: PL uses them

Fafer: so can we

TJ: so they have high activity

Makalu: yea cause right now if i use them i will get 3x the number dropped back on me

Makalu: that i can't do jack fucking shit about

TJ: ye thats the tricky bit

Lee: hard 2 use them when they have so many spyes , effective use i dotn sya ninja 10 min ..

Makalu: and 1000 test that will log in

Makalu: to the cries of supers tackled

Avicenna Sarfaraz: well when it comes to psies

Avicenna Sarfaraz: spies cant do shit if you can overpower the enemy

Makalu: people i'm fucing telling u

Fafer: well alot of us has more than 30 years are we old enough to get one let it loged of and in like 6months-year we get again all and stomp them

Eleila Dostoyevskitty: if we throw supers at somewhere else other than PL, wouldn't it bring all the afk supers back? then once we have enough people that are active we can get a true estimate of our strength?

Makalu: the biggest single issue

Makalu: is stupid USTZ timer

Lee: we cannot overpower them lol

Avicenna Sarfaraz: they have only been a factor due to our numberical and hardware is inferiority.

Fafer: with 100-150

Makalu: our hardware is not inferior

Makalu: it's superior in many respects

Makalu: PL doesn't log in

Avicenna Sarfaraz: x3 times supers

Makalu: until someone cries supers tackled

Avicenna Sarfaraz: Supers = deciding factor

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if we had = super hardware then we'd rip them all apart

Makalu: and i can't guarantee that if i use supers tomorrow i won't welp again

Makalu: yes i probably won't

Lee: then we lose.. dont relay on suepers in this war..offensive one..

Makalu: given that i've only welped supers once

Avicenna Sarfaraz: shit happens

Avicenna Sarfaraz: Im not worried about losing supers

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I want to win the war

Makalu: yea most peope in this channel aren't worried

Makalu: the average scrub

Makalu: is

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if we can kill goons and pl and all of them I'll sacrifice the whole super fleet

Eleila Dostoyevskitty: wouldn't crush their apoc fleet be a pretty good blow? if we cant work on their supers atm

Avicenna Sarfaraz: winning at the end of the day is everything

Makalu: WE ARE NOT GOING TO FUCKING KILL GOONS

Lee: trench war like WW1 just keep pushin and we do what we do till now..

Makalu: holy shit

Makalu: get that across your brains people

Mr Ozz: :^)

Makalu: stop leaving in a fucking fantasy world where we kill goons

Makalu: living*

Makalu: they will die evetually

Mr Ozz: lets go step by step, trashing armor BS rdy in 4-0 ?

Makalu: on their own

Lee: cant crash apocs till they ar esuported by multiple caps carier and dreds

Makalu: but

Lee: not possible with subs

Makalu: just how they can't kill us

Makalu: THEY CAN'T

Makalu: we can't kill them

Makalu: it's very fucking simple

Eleila Dostoyevskitty: goons reminded me of that southpark episode, How do you kill, that which has no life?

Lee: yep Maka is right

Avicenna Sarfaraz: you do enough damage to something it will go down

Makalu: our ideology is "you can take our space, you can kill our ships, and you can force us to LGK

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if you dont even try you will never do.

Makalu: and we don't give a flying fuck

Avicenna Sarfaraz: and it works

Makalu: we will annoy u till u leave

Makalu: goons is...we will just blue enough fucking people

Makalu: until we beat u

Mr Ozz: =========================================================

get trashing armor BS in 4-0, and u will see waht will happen in few days

=========================================================

PS: Avi, we will kill goons, 1 day

Lee: i wanted to try m8 now we have bombers and all ready but why to try when they have 4 carriers and 18 dreads on fleet what to try there..

Avicenna Sarfaraz: too me goons = everything allied with em they arent just gsfed

Lee: we could kill 5 10 and lost entiire bs fleet..

Makalu: unfortunately most people will blue goons over us

Makalu: cause it's the easy fucking way out

Avicenna Sarfaraz: thats fine, and we will kill our way through em

Avicenna Sarfaraz: just like fucking drf

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if you beat the retard with a tire iron hard enough

Avicenna Sarfaraz: eventually it will stop breathing

Makalu: well i'll tell u how we beat drf

Makalu: drf ran out of people

Avicenna Sarfaraz: the rule applies to anything

Makalu: plain and simple

Makalu: these guys aren't going to run out of people anytime soon

Makalu: cause all the newbies in eve

Makalu: join them

Avicenna Sarfaraz: its a decimation war

Fafer: good point maka

Makalu: you wanna figure out how to fix that part?

Makalu: be my guest

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I've done it

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I've wiped goons off the map like 4 times

Makalu: test has 8k people

Makalu: back then

Makalu: goons weren't 50k people

Avicenna Sarfaraz: they arent gonna be easy

Eleila Dostoyevskitty: wait a few years so all the newbies become old vet and rage quit due to drama

Makalu: right now it's a fucking numbers game

Fafer: we all knew this will take long

Makalu: all our l33t pvp tactics go out the fucking window

Makalu: and btw

Fafer: but hey we are not in lgk

Makalu: wanna know what happens when we take back half of querious?

Makalu: i'll tell u

Makalu: goons and their blob will come back down

Makalu: and take it all back in 5 days

Avicenna Sarfaraz: so?

Avicenna Sarfaraz: thats the cost of doing business

Makalu: and then we gonna spend the next 5 months fighting shitty ustz timers

Lee: if we take 4-9 we will take all thrust me..) but we cannot take 4-9 atm..or anytime soon..but we need to keep pushing..

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I have faith in our people to win

Avicenna Sarfaraz: So the details mean little me other than the end result

Makalu: this doesn't depend on just us

Makalu: unfortuinately

Makalu: drf war depended on just us

Avicenna Sarfaraz: emphasis = end result

Avicenna Sarfaraz: then thats for herc to sort out

Makalu: drf was always gonna die

Avicenna Sarfaraz: politics etc

Makalu: it was just a matter of time

Avicenna Sarfaraz: but all eve gangbanging goons

Avicenna Sarfaraz: and their friends

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I think odds may turn around for us

Fafer: theres alway question - do we make our own propaganda, do we recruit kitchen sink newbs and thrw them to them - but then we become like them

Fafer: that we cant do i hope

Avicenna Sarfaraz: there is enough angry people who dislike the enemy enough to want to party.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: its also a matter of turning our own machine on

Makalu: i have no interest in a 8000 man alliance

Avicenna Sarfaraz: we could do it with our current size, activity however is another problem

Fafer: or find some braindead people who can withstand newbs and let them make newb ally in our bloc perhaps

Makalu: http://evemaps.dotla...e_Please_Ignore

Makalu: these guys are gonna reach 10k soon

Makalu: this is fucking retarded

Makalu: http://evemaps.dotla...warm_Federation

Makalu: 156 corprotations (worry)

Avicenna Sarfaraz: yes

Avicenna Sarfaraz: and these are abominations in eve

Avicenna Sarfaraz: that need to be destroyed

Avicenna Sarfaraz: so we can have proper fucking fights

Avicenna Sarfaraz: without half of map vs half of map

Avicenna Sarfaraz: its more than just a "fuck test lol"

Fafer: i dont think there is way back to proper fights

Makalu: 1. Fatal Ascension Fatal Ascension 20 Show on universe map57 2436 26

Avicenna Sarfaraz: probably not

Fafer: now that this box has been opened for so long

Makalu: 12. RAZOR Alliance RAZOR Alliance 16 Show on universe map68 3265

Makalu: 14. Tribal Band Tribal Band 15 Show on universe map41 3250

Makalu: fucking tribal band

Makalu: has 3k people

Makalu: that is fucking retarded

Makalu: 15. Executive Outcomes Executive Outcomes 14 Show on universe map50 1185

Makalu: 16. Gentlemen's Agreement Gentlemen's Agreement 14 Show on universe map17 1705

Avicenna Sarfaraz: well that is the nature of this game

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if you cant get better people

Avicenna Sarfaraz: get more

Avicenna Sarfaraz: doesnt matter if they are spineless

Avicenna Sarfaraz: that is what we are fighting

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if you want to fight numbers then you have to have them

Avicenna Sarfaraz: at least to a comparable degree

Avicenna Sarfaraz: if we dont have numbers, we need hardware

Avicenna Sarfaraz: they have shit people with some elite bandwagoner faggots with some nice gear in good numbers

Avicenna Sarfaraz: and they are using the numbers to get an edge on us

Avicenna Sarfaraz: there are ways to counter but its not pretty

Avicenna Sarfaraz: this is becasue of CCP's koe toeing to the cool kids

Avicenna Sarfaraz: either way we are where we are and its a matter of winning the long game

Avicenna Sarfaraz: also goons without mittens would be game set match in about 2 weeks

Avicenna Sarfaraz: goons are chairman mao's prc

Avicenna Sarfaraz: test is less structured to die like that, though I think test is more susceptible to a collapse given the right conditions

Avicenna Sarfaraz: so either way we just need to keep rolling with the punches

Magnifikus: 352 messages in 4 hours

Magnifikus: are you kidding me? ^^

TJ: a scoll bar is useful

organics this is good stuff

mukk.barovian: Rand McKikas < spy and needs to be booted

Makalu: what corp/alliance?

mukk.barovian: trying to bump our cs out of a pos

mukk.barovian: I can link in game

Makalu: well is it -a- or en garde?

Makalu: cause i can deal with that right now :P

Makalu: if not then not

lucifer.bigpud: rookie empire

Makalu: change pos password

Makalu: and be done with it

organics.....: super tackled, need more in fleet

Mr Ozz: whos supers ?

organics.....: goon

markus.dixon: Nice work

markus.dixon: raped that guy

Fafer: please poke your members Lee's CTA is today in 10 minutes

Fafer: wrong date in mail

Lee: same shit we will have them always

Lee:

eleila.dostoyevskitty: why are there test n PL on the goon super km? also is the montolio's 'get your shit out of deklein' thing real? ;p

Lee: guys wtf is this fit 200 in allianc e120 in fleet from all alliances

Lee: they have 200 rokhs atm and bobmers fleet 24 hour

Lee: and half ppl whoa re bulshiting in ali chat right now are not in single fleet or bobmers or main one

Mr Ozz: guys

Mr Ozz: i want towers in K-6 like now

Mr Ozz: every corp PUTS 1 tower each

Makalu: u people need to fucking relax

Makalu: like seriously

Makalu: towers/rfing 49-u

Makalu: u are killing our own people more than test is

Makalu: by doing this shit that doesn't need to be done right now

Mr Ozz: http://eve.1019.net/...0I12121212&off= // example of pos , u can put more RES modules

Mr Ozz: and welcome back maka

Magnifikus: maybe seperate reimburseable from cta?

Magnifikus: on midterm you grind cta participation down

Magnifikus: k-6 tower serious? because its alot with covert haulers ^^

Mr Ozz: http://eve.1019.net/...1110S0S0Q0S1111

i would like to see this1, with spare web/warp strup

Mr Ozz: this kind of tower have 250m EHP

Mr Ozz: to rf it they need dreads = fun to kill some idiot in SIEGE !

Mr Ozz: dread in ssiege can not be REP remotly, so = DEAD with easy fleet, and u can always hide in pos

Mr Ozz: come on guys, USE so imaginantion

Mr Ozz: if they want to rf 5-10 pos they need dreads, nothing esles will shoot it, in sub fleet it will take ages ^^ so form up bomber and bomb the shit, anyway, w/e they do u can have nice green dreads on KB or plenty bs/bc

Mr Ozz: fuel for 2 weeks and strond for 1.5 day

Magnifikus: we are going online soon™ :P

Magnifikus: need a titan in 49- soon too ^^

Mr Ozz: good, use titans to bridge shit, i adivce to do it now fast or before DT, so they dont kill it

Mr Ozz: when its not online

angelroid1: "Do you remember Love"

Torin Zece /TorinZece: (Macross reference?)

angelroid1: Oh man, a refined gentleman with tact and good acts

angelroid1: I salute thee

avisarfaraz: I love macross

avisarfaraz: "3

avisarfaraz: :3

Magnifikus: can we cycle 4-0 please?

alchemy-x: jammer is down already and beacon up

Magnifikus: need to get the towers in ^^

Magnifikus: 18:48:47 Notify You are unable to generate a cynosural field while there is a jammer present and active somewhere in this solar system.

alchemy-x: wtf

alchemy-x: ok give me a sec will turn it off

angelroid1: Macross ftw

Makalu: pop cyno 5s before shields go up

Makalu: jump in jump freighter

Makalu: done

David: ^

Makalu: just make sure the pos is configged so u don't bump out

Magnifikus: and get banned

Makalu: and so that the field goes up

Makalu: since when do u get banned for that?

Makalu: it's not an explot

Magnifikus: its an exploit

spc...: you get banned for that ?

Makalu: exploit*

David: bot an expliot..

David: if it is, show me the notes that say so..

David: not..

Magnifikus: http://community.eve...&nid=1906&tid=1

Magnifikus: since 2008

Makalu: inside yea

Makalu: while it's online

Makalu: no one said anything about while it's onlining

David: to bad they added the ability to turn them up manually now..

Magnifikus: find out how gms interprete it

David: that is for people who coast their ships into the shields to save the cyno.. that is a long standing one..

Magnifikus: no

Magnifikus: gaining certain advantages for themselves and their cyno-jumping allies

Makalu: good thing no one that i know has ever been banned for it

Makalu: and just about everyone has done it

spc...: yea i think this was the case of bumping cyno ship into forcefield..

Magnifikus: diff?

David: not worth the discussion here tbh, but if I chose to jump to my cyno, then A) a force field go up for the first time after, or B) I enable the force field per the current game mechanics - I will take my chances with CCP.

spc...: yea

David: pretty sure I know what they answer to a petition would be if I jumped to a cyno, warped to a POS, but the shield were not up ( had not put in the password) and someone killed me..

Makalu: also honestly the whole bumping thing...how fucking hard can it be to not let a cyno ship into pos?

Makalu: i mean seriously it's a single fucking if statement

David: no shit...

David: IF cyno THEN no letty inny POS

David:

Magnifikus: how easy would it be to fix titan jump bug? ^^

Magnifikus: so easy is no argument for ccp :P

spc...: yea i agree with you maka

Torin Zece /TorinZece: Funny thing is you do not light cyno in forcefield.

Torin Zece /TorinZece: you light outside and drift in

spc...: but ccp wants to do UI canges, instead of simple if statements

Torin Zece /TorinZece: so by the letter of that statement you have not lit inside.. thus not breaking rules

Torin Zece /TorinZece: (my 2 cents)

Magnifikus: to be secure, you can selfestruct be cynoship before ff goes up, when you have never ever a cyno in a forcefield ^^

Makalu: i'll take my chances with ccp

Makalu: if they wanna ban me...well i'll just have a few thousand accounts unsub

Makalu: and we'll see how they take it

Magnifikus: jita burns 2.0?

organics.....: lolol

Magnifikus: free maka

Makalu: i'm pretty sure enough ccp gms play themselves

Makalu: to not be completely oblivious to who is who in game so...

Magnifikus: can you jump some jfs in k-6 for me? ^^

spc...: lol jita burns

Makalu: let me see where my JF is

Makalu: as long as i can get escorted into 49

Makalu: yup i got a rhea in 4-0

LAMBF Solon101: done http://eve-kill.net/...kll_id=14590080

Makalu: oh shit lambf has supers outside anomolies

Makalu: that's fucking amazing

Theng Hofses: This is a trusted channel and allies are not here... it even takes a lot of -A- corps a while to get here

mukk.barovian: im not going to put heavy assets into 49- when the enemy have active fcs

mukk.barovian: last night PL had FCs fighting us until after midnight

mukk.barovian: some night when it gets slow and I can confirm none of the PL guys are around to stop us I'll kill 49- sbus

avisarfaraz: Keep fighting and butchering them. You are doing good mukk

mukk.barovian: lack of titan was killer

Magnifikus: are you sure that raiden is also joining hbc?

Magnifikus: hard to believe finfleet with goons

Magnifikus: wtf

Herc: yes

Herc: 100%

Herc: catch etxt

Herc: in private

avisarfaraz: Fucking IT traitors.

avisarfaraz: This time they die for good.

Herc: feel free to rage at them

Herc: as former IT/BoB IT

markus.dixon: Nail them to the cross. Well crucify them together.

avisarfaraz: I alteady told ya I'll execute all of them

Magnifikus: tomorrow 21eve raiden teamspeak, killboard, timerboard and other webtools will go offline enough for me

Herc: ...

avisarfaraz: Im the only IT ceo that has m

avisarfaraz: Not went blue with em

Theng Hofses: Don't do anything illegal, but if you have the legal rights to it, by all means

markus.dixon: They gonna get raped when they try and launch an offensive against us.

Herc: no they'd win

Herc: they have complete and utter super-cap advantage

Herc: + meatshield

Lee: sigh

Magnifikus: its lot illegal, their contract is running out on first of september

Lee: but we cna fight and have fuuuuuuuuuuuun

Lee:

Theng Hofses: we will fight

Theng Hofses: we have no other choice

Lee: even if i have 10 choice i would pick fight

Lee:

Theng Hofses: Ave imperator morituri salutant

Lee: rofl

avisarfaraz: I want yo burn them all to the ground

markus.dixon: BEAT THE WAR DRUMS - Shits about to get real.

avisarfaraz: Ugh I hate digi keyboard

markus.dixon: Burn them all to the ground.

mukk.barovian: half our losses were failfits

mukk.barovian: nice little skirmish with test and pl

mukk.barovian: we lost the isk war by a little bit Im sure3

avisarfaraz: I will destroy all former bob it corps

avisarfaraz: You heard it here.

Lee: muk m8 we lost 8 ships not 800.. ppl love to fight it wass perfect m8 if i was FC we would have 25 kils 40 loses for sure..)))

Lee: so you played perfect

markus.dixon: Between makka, mukk and lee and the others. We got the best team ive ever seen.

Herc: ^^ yes we need to fix that

markus.dixon: Something im proud to be a part of.

avisarfaraz: We need to get our fcs more super pilots to cmd

Lee: ahahah noooooo i cant fix that im same person 8 year in EvE.. ppl who flying long time with me know that..

Herc: we'll fix it

mukk.barovian: we did just fine

avisarfaraz: If we need rants

avisarfaraz: At the end of the day justice is on our side

avisarfaraz: justice always prevails

Herc: LGK will prevail!

avisarfaraz: we're just gonna need a kicker corpse awake it's time to work.

avisarfaraz: Kick our corps*

eleila.dostoyevskitty: so majority of the old bob/IT forgot about the whole 'eternal war with goons' thing rite?

avisarfaraz: They are spineless egoists

avisarfaraz: they gave up what made them better than everybody else years ago

avisarfaraz: I found that out the hard way in Fountain when IT collapsed.

eleila.dostoyevskitty: miss the whole 'we are better than you/nice region we will take it' attitude, it is all about rifter swarm and overblob supercap now

avisarfaraz: triple A is that were better than you/ nice region will take it alliance now

avisarfaraz: why do you think I join AAA out of everybody else

Herc: Avi - you joined cause we beat you in IT war

Herc: or should I say

Herc: we did not die when you made us go to LGK

eleila.dostoyevskitty: probably like this http://i.imgur.com/11iHO.gif

Herc: and than we prevailed

avisarfaraz: triple A is the new Bob did you know it was all planned out at the barbecue

eleila.dostoyevskitty: I make a killer ribs

Herc: too bad molle is inactive

avisarfaraz: I can call him if you'd like

Herc: nah

Herc: if he has time - he wil come back

Makalu: guys everyone make sure all your stations are set for europrime please

Makalu: i have a feeling these faggots might try something sooner or later

mukk.barovian: pl forming rohks for a visit

mukk.barovian: pl stand rohks down and call me a coward on kugut

mukk.barovian: pl mad

(talking about lighting a cyno while the Forcefields online shouldnt be an exploit)

Harccsont: ccp mad when people use their brain

christian.maaser: afaik they even consider bumping/moving the cyno ship into the FF after lighting the cyno as an exploit as well ^^

markus.dixon: Hahaha. What the fuck is wrong with these guys at ccp?

markus.dixon: Test/pl inside ccp mad that they couldnt kill some of us.

markus.dixon: IA must be filled with pl members

Avicenna Sarfaraz: CCP is already corrupted with test and goons

Harccsont: how the fuck does shane turn into a zombie after rick kills him? wtf

*** Jamus Gorrelius removed Makalu from this conversation. ***

Fafer: lol

markus.dixon: Do you relaly think thats a fucking wise decision?

TJ: oh my

TF20AlchemyX (MV): oh oh

TJ: incoming drama

markus.dixon: Put him back in here.

TJ: you really have no clue about anything do you

Jamus Gorrelius: such as what TJ

markus.dixon: Kordent, do you see what you are doing?

TJ: really need to help sort shit out

TJ: not add more issues

*** Jamus Gorrelius added Makalu ***

Jamus Gorrelius: then tell him to stop

Fafer: alliances kill themself, not outside enemy

markus.dixon: This isnt a schoolyard.

Jamus Gorrelius: and u guys should be freaking tell him to add me back to the other channel

Lee: channels are not importnat

Lee: rly

TJ: signed

Jamus Gorrelius: TJ add me back to the other channel

Jamus Gorrelius: u know which one

TJ: which

Lee: maka removed he again...

Fafer: well im on only 2-3 channels and tbh i dont need more

TJ: dont cause fucking drama

Jamus Gorrelius: u see Lee knows

Jamus Gorrelius: hey fucking eh it's maka who's starting it

Jamus Gorrelius: go read it up

TF20AlchemyX (MV): boooo i am only in this one (worry)

Fafer: tf20 you must be pretty important then to be only on one

TF20AlchemyX (MV): lol

Fafer: the rest of us needs to work more lol

TF20AlchemyX (MV): lol well what can i say about that one :P

Fafer: yes yes you are upper class and we proleteriat needs to know our place

Fafer:

TF20AlchemyX (MV): hahahaha defenatly

Avicenna Sarfaraz: So what the fuck are you people doing.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: Focus on the military objectives.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: all this other shit is worthless trifles.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: you fucking focus on facilitating dead goons

Avicenna Sarfaraz: that is your fuction FCs.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: I will not tolerate any more childish shit.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: from anyone.

Avicenna Sarfaraz: This is a team effort and I will not tolerate any adversarial behavior.

Markus Dixon: PS, that Fleet/Alliance mail

Markus Dixon: For High Sec Ganking

Markus Dixon: needs to Be shut down.

TF20AlchemyX (MV): i agree

Markus Dixon: Were not goons.

TF20AlchemyX (MV): we have more important things to go for i think

Markus Dixon: And we have other problems to deal with at the moment

Fafer: its not bad per se, gives fun, but that wold draw people too far

Markus Dixon: It would have been fine, 6 months ago, when we were looking for people to shoot. As we had just oblitereated everything in the south.

TF20AlchemyX (MV): sorted

Markus Dixon: Thank you.

TF20AlchemyX (MV): thx maka

Markus Dixon: Thnx Maka

Makalu: i have the entire russian channel raging at me

Markus Dixon: Welcome to the English speaking channel

Markus Dixon: Noob

TF20AlchemyX (MV): lol

Markus Dixon: Let me fix that.

Nordjunge: Prices decreased from 2.700 to 2250-2300 already but wont go below 2000

Nordjunge: as I see it...CCP got what they wanted! Tech is around 100k

Nordjunge: thats "okay"

Shadeforce: what do u expect

Shadeforce: 40k players there

Shadeforce: we got what ?

Shadeforce: 10k at best

Shadeforce: with all allies

Shadeforce: ofc ccp will listen to their whining

Kure: and all of thouse 40k player geting their share ?

Shadeforce: that isn't the point

Nordjunge: lol...no share at all

Shadeforce: we have no voice over ccp

Shadeforce: they want to remove alliances passive income

Shadeforce: or so they said

Kure: Thay are fighting against RMT and alowing ceratin ppl to build RMT empires via all that tech.

Shadeforce: but before they do they must make sure we can't kill either test or goons

Shadeforce: so they are going slow

Shadeforce: when shit hits the fan for us

Shadeforce: they might even remove tech

Nordjunge: guys its sad but true...we need to wait and hold ours untill they fight themselves after they got too fat

Shadeforce: that is how they balance 0.0

Shadeforce: what they miss in the equasion

Shadeforce: is that nobody can beat test and goons now

Nordjunge: exactly

Shadeforce: not with the passive income they got

Shadeforce: and ofc pl being there to make sure we don't deploy supers

Shadeforce: what we got there is another drf

Shadeforce: with a bit more numbers

Nordjunge: nah....NC 2.0

Shadeforce: not exactly tho

Shadeforce: nc was way smaller

Nordjunge: yeah

Shadeforce: problem is the remnants of nc joined either goons or test

Shadeforce: rather then our side

Shadeforce: we basically have no meat shield

Shadeforce: in which i believe we fail

Nordjunge: yeah....and solar wont fight Goons nor do we want any alliance with NC.

Shadeforce: heh for all i know i think nc. will join test

Shadeforce: everyone jumps on the band wagon

Shadeforce: nothing new

Nordjunge: *end is near*

Shadeforce: nope

Shadeforce: end of our space holding is

Shadeforce: which is a new begining

Shadeforce: and that is awesome

Magnifikus: eve has just changed

Kure: That Mittani is like Hitler Shadoo = Musolini

Magnifikus: mitani is imperator

Nordjunge: LOL...ur right Miro

Shadeforce: mittens doesn't control test

Shadeforce: but he wants to

Magnifikus: indirect he do

Nordjunge: yeah...me thinks so

Shadeforce: naw atm is more like non agression

Nordjunge: just as they do not need it atm

Shadeforce: if they start fighting they know we will wipe em out

Shadeforce: so test won't go against goons

Shadeforce: but won't listen to em either

Shadeforce: what we need to do imo is start getting fun

Shadeforce: roam em to fuck

Shadeforce: and let em do sov war on our territory

Nordjunge: tbh the fastest way to solve this clusterfuck situation is to let them win all....then eve will soon start from the scratch

Shadeforce: so we can deploy caps and supers easy

Shadeforce: and quit reinforcing stuff

Shadeforce: with bc's

Kure: at the end they will fight to each other so whatever happens we just need to wait a bit

Nordjunge: yep...thats what i mean

Shadeforce: they won the turning point where we lost supers

Shadeforce: so after that the weaklings turned coat

Shadeforce: and joined em

Kure: as i sayed . Some ppl will rather suck cock for space then to fight for it whit hes friends.

Shadeforce: they are dead anyways

Shadeforce: init and raiden

Shadeforce: they cannot form even 1 ops

Nordjunge: RDN is....true

Shadeforce: so they got promised land in catch or whatever

Shadeforce: and they are now waiting for test to attack us

Shadeforce: so i say let em

Shadeforce:

Kure: we have spartans on our side dont worry

Shadeforce: we don't

Kure: Spartans = Hellas

Kure: we do

Shadeforce: i did a poll a few days in corp

Shadeforce: 55ppl voted

Shadeforce: 4 ppl said they depend on 0.0 sov space for isk

Shadeforce: i can live without em

Shadeforce: out of 10k test

Shadeforce: do u think there are even 100 that don't depend on 0.0 ?

Kure: whit space or whitout it im not going anywhere same as mine corp

Shadeforce: most of their members are x failed pets

Shadeforce: alliances that we killed south

Shadeforce: so yes , the more we kill south , the more they become

Shadeforce: so imo we need to rethink our blue policy

Shadeforce: until ccp actually does something to hurt those huge blocks

Shadeforce: also i am dissapointed with solar

Shadeforce: i think we created another drf there

Shadeforce: if they stay out of combat for more then 6 months....

Kure: They are fighting NC.

Shadeforce: right...

Shadeforce: nc. is nothing anyways

Shadeforce: a drop in the sea

mukk.barovian: test have an unescorted battleship fleet in 49-

mukk.barovian: and i can form 3 tempests or 4 tengus

mukk.barovian: woot 5 tempests

Mutafakaz: anyway there are little options

Mutafakaz: for roam

Mutafakaz: test?

Mutafakaz: they won't fight

Mutafakaz: they will blob or take bombers

Mutafakaz: plus PL

Mutafakaz: if they don't invade us soon

Mutafakaz: AAA will die itself from boredom

Mutafakaz: and enormous amount of useless blues around

Theng Hofses: PL is talking about kicking us out of Catch in 3 months

Markus Dixon: it is better to be true

Markus Dixon: right now if they want to kill us completely

Markus Dixon: they might want to leave things as is

Fafer: well people were tired, we rested some time we start again

Fafer: and there will be isk for reimbursements making thngs easier for us

Fafer: since theyre not coming

Jamus Gorrelius: little birdie told me PL have promised catch to NC. after the north

Fafer: well of

Fafer: course

Jamus Gorrelius:

Fafer: looks like they are in trouble with sov bills, so instead of riden init invadin they will make them pay for querious bbills

Fafer: that leaves catch immensea detroid, but -> NC

Fafer: yeah nobody says theyre not smart

xeenon: i'll kill their gang now

xeenon: tired of those retards

Mr Ozz: Muta, whats going on ?

Mr Ozz: dont shoot blue pls

xeenon: i'm tired of those retards feeding darkside

Jamus Gorrelius: No shooting blues what's the issue and we can address

xeenon: and scaring away targets

Fafer: sone is getting some space from us to use too

Jamus Gorrelius: Well shooting them would be a good way if sending them test's way

xeenon: good thing

Jamus Gorrelius: It's better to make them better

Fafer: i dont know if tehy are terible, but our fcs are competent and can make them press f1

Fafer: which we would need

Jamus Gorrelius: Yup

Fafer: at this point

xeenon: i don't if they spoil my roaming again

xeenon: i'll kill them

xeenon: no matter blue or not blue

Mr Ozz: rgr

Jamus Gorrelius: Next time my mrs burns my toast I'll kill her

xeenon: i'm tired of shittons of retarded blues around

david: jump through the 49 gate, there are some..

david: red..

Theng Hofses: There are tons of non-blues in Querious, Deleve, PB, PS

xeenon: fighting blobs no thx

Theng Hofses: go to Fountain

Theng Hofses: Sorry our enemies are not cooperating to come in bit size killable pieces

Theng Hofses: Nulli in Detorid are much more bite-size

Theng Hofses: kill them

Theng Hofses: nobody will cry a tear

Theng Hofses: and test is paying the for being shot by us

Mr Ozz: muta, i will be reseting some blues, but sone are our allies, so pls

Mutafakaz: i'd better quit and join DS soon, if things stay that wayboring and retarded

Mutafakaz: afk