RivetSpawn (10:46): what are you smoking?

ghostsorceu (10:47): hashishe

RivetSpawn (10:47): ahh same but in leaf form

ghostsorceu (10:48): ^^

RivetSpawn (10:48): The hash is the same as the THC right?

the powdery crystals

ghostsorceu (10:48): no

RivetSpawn (10:49): ahh what is it?

ghostsorceu (10:49): it's like marijuana but powdery

RivetSpawn (10:49): yeah I think that's what I mean

greeny grey powder that comes off the plant?

ghostsorceu (10:49): yup^^

RivetSpawn (10:50): it falls through the mesh and I smoke just that sometimes

and then im just completely baked

ghostsorceu (10:50): xD*

i'm from morroco ^^

so ^^

RivetSpawn (10:50): full on hallucinated the first time I discovered it

ghostsorceu (10:51): xD

RivetSpawn (11:29): are you not banned from smoking, with your faith?

ghostsorceu (11:30): i didn't understand?^^'

RivetSpawn (11:30): I can't remember if you said you were religeous

ghostsorceu (11:30): yup

RivetSpawn (11:30): ahh which faith was it?

ghostsorceu (11:30): musilm

islam

RivetSpawn (11:31): yeah

are you allowed to smoke or do you just do it anyway? xD

ghostsorceu (11:31): hmmm

what os not allowed it's drink alcohol

RivetSpawn (11:32): ahhh yeah

I don't care for that stuff anyway

ghostsorceu (11:32): u are not religious?

RivetSpawn (11:32): There is an islamic guy who lives down the road from me

he gave me a banana randomly once xD so I went into his house and chatted with him for a bit

and nah I have no religion

I know that's meant to be seen as bad from you guys is it? but ahh well xD

ghostsorceu (11:34): no

RivetSpawn (11:34): ahh thats good

ghostsorceu (11:34): i respect ur decision

RivetSpawn (11:34): I think it might just be a specific group of Islamic people

a small group

ghostsorceu (11:35): just there is question

RivetSpawn (11:35): go on

ghostsorceu (11:35): why are u in this life?

the purpse

who create humans?

^^

RivetSpawn (11:35): your mother and father

ghostsorceu (11:35): who create humans not me or my mom or dad

who create all humans

before ur mom and dad^^

RivetSpawn (11:36): well each one is individually created by their parents

and who created your mum and dad? their mum and dad

the catch is though

ghostsorceu (11:36): who create the parents of ower parents xd

RivetSpawn (11:37): that your great great great great....... great great grandfather was probably a fish..

ghostsorceu (11:37): xD

RivetSpawn (11:37): and even further back, bacteria..

xD

ghostsorceu (11:37): and why the fishes stil fishes?

lol

not logical ^^

RivetSpawn (11:37): because they are still in the see and the best way to survive in the sea is by being like a fish

some of the fish will have washed up on land or in small pools

ghostsorceu (11:38): and why us we changed to humans after being a fish?

xD

RivetSpawn (11:38): and they will have developed tools for living in air.. lungs etc..

so over time the fish on land change to suit being on land

and the ones still in the sea remain

ghostsorceu (11:38): no why it's not happening now

?

RivetSpawn (11:38): well it takes generations and generations.. millions

ghostsorceu (11:39): crocodiles still crocodiles

xD

RivetSpawn (11:39): one individual can't notice it in their own lifetime

because it's the changes that happen between generations

ghostsorceu (11:39): no it's not real xd

RivetSpawn (11:39): yeah because they can survive as crocdiles still, they don't need to change

ghostsorceu (11:39): why we can't bread under watter then?

xD^^

RivetSpawn (11:40): because just as you gain ways of surviving in whatever environment you're in you loose them too, se as we came onto land lungs will have developed and gills will disapeear since we don't need them on

oops

as we came on to land*

its hard to visualise the whole process because nothing changes within a single individual

ghostsorceu (11:41): from 1900 no fish changed to human

RivetSpawn (11:41): ahh no

ghostsorceu (11:41): or lion to a dragon xD

RivetSpawn (11:41): that's only 100 years

it takes like 10000000

ghostsorceu (11:42): before that

from 1400years

humans still humans

^^

RivetSpawn (11:42): thats still a really short amount of time

the earth is millions of years old and live has been living on earth for a lot of them

ghostsorceu (11:42): ^^ we don't change ^^

RivetSpawn (11:43): you know how 2 adults can have a child

ghostsorceu (11:43): we was human from the first day of humanity^^

RivetSpawn (11:43): they have 2 children

and they both look different

they aren't the same

ghostsorceu (11:43): and?

god create the first human adam^^

and his wife hawa

^^

we are all there children^^

there is no fish no nothing

if it was like that the shark will be a tank ^^xD

RivetSpawn (11:45): but people have dug up fossils and they all fit together perfectly of a map through time showing preserved bodys of creatues gradually changing into humans over millions of years

ghostsorceu (11:45): but into humans not fishes

RivetSpawn (11:45): ahh yeah

but fish are there

and something a little bit closer to us is after them

and something less like us before

you can see the process that turns one creature into another in bacteria really easily because they breed so fast

ghostsorceu (11:47): no just lies^^

RivetSpawn (11:47): I'ts not seriously xD

either way I like discussing it :3

ghostsorceu (11:47): yup but u think that u were a fish xD

and why we can eat fishe?

there are not ower brothers?xD

RivetSpawn (11:48): not me

I will always be human until I die

but my great great grand parents millions of years ago were most definitely fish, reptiles, lizards etc..

ghostsorceu (11:49): and when u died u will know that u were never a fish and there is one god

RivetSpawn (11:49): it's hard to see because people only experience time within one persons lifespan

ghostsorceu (11:49): and u will be punished ^^'

RivetSpawn (11:49): but this happens over millions of generations very slowly

ghostsorceu (11:49): no not real

from the faraon it was never being a human like a fish ^^

RivetSpawn (11:50): do you know why all the elephants are getting really short tusks?

ghostsorceu (11:50): because od daw

dan

adn

RivetSpawn (11:51): because all the hunters that want ivory hund down the ones with the biggest tusks

ghostsorceu (11:51): we are not more powerful than ower gandfathers why?

ADN

RivetSpawn (11:51): and only elephants with small tusks remain

so they breed

and give birth to more elephants with small tusks

and as such.. a change has happened, elephants are now different..

only slightly

but that's an example over a short amount of time

ghostsorceu (11:52): who create the world?

RivetSpawn (11:52): thats a different question that we can talk about after if you want but that would be avoiding this one :p

ghostsorceu (11:53): i'm not good in english language so i can't told u all what i want ^^

u believe that the devil exist?

RivetSpawn (11:54): ahh you're doing pretty well :D

no

I don't believe anything magical exists

if you were to show me.. I would believe

ghostsorceu (11:55): it's him who make u think like that ^^

u are so away from ur god ^^é

^^"

and u are not a life juts like that

u are her for a purpse ^^

RivetSpawn (11:56): but I can't believe something when there's nothing to prove it's real

ghostsorceu (11:56): this life it's just a test ^^

RivetSpawn (11:56): would you tell your kids santa clause exists?

ghostsorceu (11:56): mortel life

i don't believe in santa claus and that things^^

RivetSpawn (11:56): why not?

ghostsorceu (11:56): did u ever read the coran or listen to it?

RivetSpawn (11:57): nah I've not read it

why don't you believe in santa?

ghostsorceu (11:57): there is things that was fouds in 2013 but exists in the coran how?

RivetSpawn (11:57): but you're avoiding my question :c

ghostsorceu (11:57): from 1400 year

which question?

RivetSpawn (11:58): why don't you believe in santa clause?

ghostsorceu (11:58): it's not for muslims that things

^^

RivetSpawn (11:59): what about fairys?

ghostsorceu (11:59): what means?

RivetSpawn (11:59): magical creatures

like little female elves

ghostsorceu (11:59): xD*

RivetSpawn (12:00): why don't you believe they exist?

ghostsorceu (12:00): no there is just humans and evils^^

RivetSpawn (12:00): that is the same reason I don't believe in a god

ghostsorceu (12:00): because it doesn't exist in the coran

^^

RivetSpawn (12:00): but it exists in a book I read..

ghostsorceu (12:01): the coran told us a lot of things that eu are just found

xD

from 1400 years

and they just found that ^^

RivetSpawn (12:01): what did they find?

What if I wrote a book that said god didn't exist..

ghostsorceu (12:03): black hole in space and that ants speak and there's an end to this world

RivetSpawn (12:03): then it would be written that he did and that he didn't

well that's good but it doesn't prove that god's exist..

ghostsorceu (12:04): how then

RivetSpawn (12:04): how do you prove that gods exist?

ghostsorceu (12:04): how it exist in that bookk from 1400years?

RivetSpawn (12:04): probably because black holes existed at that time too

they have been around longer than life has existed

ghostsorceu (12:04): and he had a satellite?

ower prophet?

xD

RivetSpawn (12:05): what?

ahh

ghostsorceu (12:05): in 1400 planes doesn't exist^^

RivetSpawn (12:05): well he probably had some kind of telescope

ghostsorceu (12:05): doesn't exists in that time^^

RivetSpawn (12:05): so you tell me...

how did he know

ghostsorceu (12:06): because he is the prophet of god

RivetSpawn (12:06): sounds like he guessed

so is this god a god that takes part in what goes on ?

ghostsorceu (12:06): they said that if an human can pass the black whole will see all the past and futur

RivetSpawn (12:06): or does he sit back and watch

ghostsorceu (12:07): ower prophet did see all of that ^^

in 1400years left

RivetSpawn (12:07): ahhh but he didn't know that if you went into a black hole you'd actually die instantly

ghostsorceu (12:07): xD

yup normal humans^^

he was a prophet of god^^

RivetSpawn (12:08): because it's billions of tons of matter compressed really tightly because of so much gravity

if you went anywhere near a black hole you'd die

ghostsorceu (12:08): not a prophet of god^^

RivetSpawn (12:08): you certainly can't see into one becase the gravity that is so strong pulls in even light

ghostsorceu (12:09): an angel took him to god

in one night ^^

RivetSpawn (12:09): but you've still not convinved me that this god exists so I don't think the prophet of god exists either

ghostsorceu (12:09): read the coran u will know a lot of things^^

RivetSpawn (12:09): yeah but thats a book..

I'd rather look to the actual physical world around me to find out about it,

ghostsorceu (12:10): and jesus who can give lifes to dead people

ihow?

RivetSpawn (12:10): a book is something created by man

ghostsorceu (12:10): but the words are from god^^

RivetSpawn (12:10): they are from a mortal man who wrote it one day many many years ago

when we didn't have science to explain the things we didn't know about the earth

ghostsorceu (12:11): u can't write just one part like the coran man^^

RivetSpawn (12:11): now we know that a rainbow is light refracted through water and not a magical being in the sky

we now know that earthquakes are actually tectonic plates moving in the earth and not a god punishing people

ghostsorceu (12:12): and we know that there iis an end of that world no?

RivetSpawn (12:12): we now know that tornadoes are the result of hot and cold air coming into contact with each other and not a god

ghostsorceu (12:12): ^^

RivetSpawn (12:12): yeah there probably is

ghostsorceu (12:12): why?

RivetSpawn (12:12): because we know about astronomy now

the sun is a star

and stars die

when our sun dies

it will collapse and then expand and swallow the earth

and all life will be gone

ghostsorceu (12:13): why the sun is not like the other stars?

RivetSpawn (12:13): we also know that another galaxy is actually headed towards ours

it is..

I'm not sure which will happen first

ghostsorceu (12:13): extraterrestre,?

xD

RivetSpawn (12:14): the sun exploding or the other galaxy smashing into ours

but either one will mean an end to all life on earth

the sun is just like all the other stars

ghostsorceu (12:14): all that exist in the coran from 1400years xD

RivetSpawn (12:14): they are all different sizes but they are all similar

ghostsorceu (12:14): ^^

RivetSpawn (12:14): huge stars turn into black holes when they die

yeah it's existed forever..

it's not surprising to find people have written about it

ghostsorceu (12:15): from 1400years?

man it was no astronomie

RivetSpawn (12:15): well I don't know..

possibly

ghostsorceu (12:15): no planes

just horses

xD

RivetSpawn (12:16): but you've got someone making a prediction and getting it right in a book.. I've got actual evidence and proof that evolution happened and thats how we got here..

that's the difference

ghostsorceu (12:16): all that predictions

RivetSpawn (12:16): what we both have backing up our oppinions

ghostsorceu (12:16): ?^^'

RivetSpawn (12:16): yeah

you're almost as atheist as me..

ghostsorceu (12:17): no one can predicte a lot of things and it's all right

atheist?

RivetSpawn (12:17): it's a word for people that don't believe in religion / gods

all babys are atheist until their parents tell them to believe in something..

ghostsorceu (12:18): i believe in allah my god and the god of all whay exist^^

i pratic too^^

RivetSpawn (12:18): there are about 16000 gods that I don't believe in.. from different religions

ghostsorceu (12:18): i have 26year^^

RivetSpawn (12:19): there are 15999 that you don't believe in..

we're nearly the same ^^

ghostsorceu (12:19): but i believe in the true one ^^

RivetSpawn (12:19): thats what they all say though..

how do you know yours is true and someone elses isn't?

ghostsorceu (12:19): they have not the coran ^^

RivetSpawn (12:20): dont' forget they also have a book that says theirs is real and others arenlt..

ghostsorceu (12:20): not from 1400year^^

RivetSpawn (12:20): there are religions that have existed earlier

ghostsorceu (12:21): earlier than the islam?

RivetSpawn (12:21): viking gods of thor and odin..

ghostsorceu (12:21): in films xD

RivetSpawn (12:21): no real people

thousands of years ago

believed zeus existed..

greeks

that was written in a book

ghostsorceu (12:21): that's the problem of people who follow the television xD

RivetSpawn (12:21): books mean nothing, they are written by men

ghostsorceu (12:22): the extraterrestre exist too?

RivetSpawn (12:22): no this is years before television

I don't know what they are

ghostsorceu (12:22): creatures from space xD

RivetSpawn (12:23): ahh I don't know..

if we meet them then yes I'll know they exist.. until then I don't know

that's the problem... you can't prove that something doesn't exist..

ghostsorceu (12:23): u know about illuminati?

RivetSpawn (12:23): but religeious people don't prove that gods exist either

yeahh I've heard things

ghostsorceu (12:24): what they believe?

RivetSpawn (12:24): ahh I don't know

basically, I don't "believe" in anything

ghostsorceu (12:24): u know that the president of usa are one of them?

RivetSpawn (12:24): because believe means that you accept it to be true without proof or evidence..

I believe in rocks and stone because I can go outside and see them..

I believe in trees and plants and animals

I don't believe in something that someone wrote in a book before I was born..

ghostsorceu (12:25): i believe in who create the plants and the animals^^

RivetSpawn (12:25): I do too

but we think they are different things

I think they are other plants and animals.. because I can watch cows fucking in a field and see a baby one come out

ghostsorceu (12:26): u talk frensh?

RivetSpawn (12:26): you think it is a god because your parents told you..

ghostsorceu (12:26): i have 26 year

RivetSpawn (12:27): I only talk english sorry

ghostsorceu (12:27): i don't follow what my parents did said

but i follow ower prophet mohammed ^^

and i'm so happy to be muslim ^^

when i see people so away from god i say thank u allah ^^

RivetSpawn (12:28): that's good for you man, I have no problem

I am happy to carry on enjoying this game with you despite our differences xD

ghostsorceu (12:28): yup ^^

me too

RivetSpawn (12:29): I do enjoy talking about this stuff though

ghostsorceu (12:30): if i was good in english language u will be muslim now ^^

RivetSpawn (12:30): I think we both feel the same way though.. like we are right, and the other is wrong, and there will be no way to convince the other to change xD

ghostsorceu (12:31): but i do that not for me it's for u to be not punished in the immortel life ^^

RivetSpawn (12:31): I'm fairly sure there is no other life..

ghostsorceu (12:32): u wrong^^

RivetSpawn (12:32): I know because I can look at people or animals that have died

and see that their hearts have stopped beating

they are rotting..

they aren't alive anymore

ghostsorceu (12:32): there is a saw in ower corps

RivetSpawn (12:32): to them, it's just like before they were born again

I didn't understand that

what you just said

ghostsorceu (12:34): there is a spirit on us

when we die there is an angel who take that spirit ^^

RivetSpawn (12:35): where can I see it?

ghostsorceu (12:35): u can't see angels like u can't see devils ^^

RivetSpawn (12:35): I can't see santa clause..

I think it's because they all don't exist

ghostsorceu (12:36): santa claus tdoesn't exist in a book like the coran from 1400years

RivetSpawn (12:36): that's why you can't see them

ghostsorceu (12:36): and the predictions xD

^^

RivetSpawn (12:36): I don't see why the book is important though.. I could write a book..

ghostsorceu (12:36): no one can write a book like the coran ^^

RivetSpawn (12:36): I could write a book and say santa is real

ghostsorceu (12:36): then?

RivetSpawn (12:36): but that wouldn't make it true just because I'd written it in a book

ghostsorceu (12:37): u don't know what will happened in 2300

^^

so ur book is nothing

RivetSpawn (12:37): I can probably work out a few things

not everything

ghostsorceu (12:37): not like the coran ^^

RivetSpawn (12:37): things in space are easy

because they happen so slowly and always go in loops

ghostsorceu (12:37): not just in space

RivetSpawn (12:37): you can predict everything happening in space

ghostsorceu (12:37): there is more than that

in people

he did said all what is happening now

RivetSpawn (12:38): what is happening?

ghostsorceu (12:38): israel what she does in muslims

and for the illuminati

RivetSpawn (12:38): if it's about people fighting.. that happens all the time

the main theme of all history is people fighting

ghostsorceu (12:39): and that all countrys will attack the muslim people

but as u know the islam is the most religion in the world

in every day in every country there 1from 4 who become musilm^^

in the army of USA there is muslims^^

RivetSpawn (12:40): yeahh

ghostsorceu (12:40): and i told what

israel will attack all arabs one day

then USA will attack russia and japan

and israel will take the control

RivetSpawn (12:41): I believe in a world where people don't fight.. and people love the world for what it is

ghostsorceu (12:41): i told what will happen

RivetSpawn (12:41): all this talk of attacking countrys It's not my kind of thing

ghostsorceu (12:41): from where i know that?

u don't know what happening in arabic countrys^^

RivetSpawn (12:42): but can you prove yourself that gods or a god exist?

ghostsorceu (12:42): yup by the coran ^^

RivetSpawn (12:42): that's all it would take and I would be muslim..

no that's somebody else telling you something and you believeing it..

can you prove yourself..

can you show to me

ghostsorceu (12:43): yyup lookk around u ^^

RivetSpawn (12:43): yes I see the natural world..

I don't see any gods

ghostsorceu (12:43): who create that?

RivetSpawn (12:43): or any evidence for gods

ghostsorceu (12:43): u will never see god

^^

RivetSpawn (12:43): things don't have to be created..

ghostsorceu (12:43): said allaho akbar

^^

RivetSpawn (12:43): gravity pulls all physical matter together

ghostsorceu (12:43): tell what u feel

RivetSpawn (12:43): and planets form

ghostsorceu (12:44): said it 5times

RivetSpawn (12:44): but I still havn't seen proof

you just asked me a question

ghostsorceu (12:44): u didn't feel something in ur heart

xD

RivetSpawn (12:45): I have feelings yes..

?

ghostsorceu (12:45): listen to the coran

then tell me if it's just a book

RivetSpawn (12:45): noooo that's somebody else telling you a story from a book

ghostsorceu (12:45): ^^

story?

RivetSpawn (12:45): well

I don't know what it says

but it's writing.. in a book

ghostsorceu (12:45): no he is telling u what happenned and what will happen

^^

RivetSpawn (12:45): that a man thought up and wrote

but I could do that..

ghostsorceu (12:46): no one can know what will happen after 1400year

^^"

RivetSpawn (12:47): but you just said someone did know

ghostsorceu (12:47): god told him ^^

he was a prophet

RivetSpawn (12:47): I don't believe that he did..

ghostsorceu (12:47): he just wrote what god told him

^^

RivetSpawn (12:47): how do you know it's true..

ghostsorceu (12:47): because all what he did said in the book is happening now

RivetSpawn (12:48): but it's about things that happen all the time..

people fighting..

ghostsorceu (12:48): and because when i go to sleep i don't fear die^^

RivetSpawn (12:48): ahh I don't either :3

ghostsorceu (12:48): it's the 3world war coming ^^

RivetSpawn (12:48): I'll be trying to avoid that xD

ghostsorceu (12:49): u will see ^^

RivetSpawn (12:49): I'd rather not be around fighting and people that want to kill each other

ghostsorceu (12:49): u are from?

RivetSpawn (12:49): uk

ghostsorceu (12:49): uk?

RivetSpawn (12:49): england

united kingdon

ghostsorceu (12:49): ah it's there when the illuminati begins^^

RivetSpawn (12:50): you believe in that too?

ghostsorceu (12:50): yup^^

RivetSpawn (12:50): you do realise people writing this stuff trys to make it so you will believe

when they sit down to write these books they think,, how can I write this so that people will believe what I say..

ghostsorceu (12:50): no i believe in what exist in the coran^^

RivetSpawn (12:51): but I bet you havn't seen any actual physical proof yourself

and you're just believeing it blindly..?

ghostsorceu (12:51): proof when i ask god for something it happen ^^

RivetSpawn (12:52): you are telling yourself inside that this is true.. I've always known this to be true, others around me all think it's true,, it must be and nomatter what anyone else says it has to be true!

ghostsorceu (12:52): that's all what i want tbelieve^^

RivetSpawn (12:52): ask him to reveal himself to me now please

ghostsorceu (12:52): no^^

RivetSpawn (12:52): and if he does I will instantly become muslim

ghostsorceu (12:52): there is japans musilms^^

uk muslims

RivetSpawn (12:53): yeahh I know it's a faith not a race like white/black

ghostsorceu (12:53): USA musilms

spain musilms

why?^^

RivetSpawn (12:53): can you ask your god to reveal himself to me please

ghostsorceu (12:53): u will not resist to see him

RivetSpawn (12:53): no I will be happy to see him

ghostsorceu (12:53): one of the prphets did ask god that

RivetSpawn (12:54): why can't I see him?

ghostsorceu (12:54): and when god just begin to apear a while a moutain goes down

like if iit never exists

^^

RivetSpawn (12:55): I don't understand

I just want to see him

then I will believe

or show me some other proof

a book isn't enough

ghostsorceu (12:56): i will learn more about english language and i will give that

RivetSpawn (12:56): because anybody can write words in a book and lie

ok well I would be really surprised if you could show me proof

that's the thing about evolution..

ghostsorceu (12:57): on the sea there is a place when the sea go in a valley without mixing?

RivetSpawn (12:58): it has been proved

ghostsorceu (12:58): when?

RivetSpawn (12:58): moses parting the water?

or is that christian

fossils

they are the remains of creatues and they are preserved

turned to stone

so we can see exactly how they died

ghostsorceu (12:59): no the watter of the sea go near the watter of the valley without mixing

RivetSpawn (12:59): and like i said they all fit together exactly like they would if we had evolved

how do you know they don't mix?

ghostsorceu (12:59): all scoentifique people know about that

look at youtube

RivetSpawn (1:00): I'm guessing it's because of freshwater and saltwater..

but I don't understand how this proves god exists..

ghostsorceu (1:00): xD

no

there is a barrier that god create^^

RivetSpawn (1:00): seawater is saltwater

water from rivers in valleys is freshwater

ghostsorceu (1:00): no scientifique can resolve that

RivetSpawn (1:01): freshwater and salt water don't mix because of the physics of saltwater

ghostsorceu (1:01): take a saltwatter and put it with a valley watter and u will see xD

they will be mixed^^

RivetSpawn (1:01): only if you stir it

ghostsorceu (1:01): no

RivetSpawn (1:01): it would mix in the sea if you stirred it there

ghostsorceu (1:01): without stir it

RivetSpawn (1:01): yeah, they don't mix

ghostsorceu (1:02): they mixed^^

RivetSpawn (1:02): salt water is heavy and stays at the bottom

freshwater stays on top

ghostsorceu (1:02): try it *-*

RivetSpawn (1:02): it's already been tried, that's how I know

ghostsorceu (1:03): i did it too ^^

RivetSpawn (1:03): what you just did there is something humans have done for millions of years... when people don't understand something, they say god did it

ghostsorceu (1:03): it mixed ^^

RivetSpawn (1:03): but as time passes, the true case is revealed

by science

ghostsorceu (1:03): no it exists in the coran

from 1400years

RivetSpawn (1:03): why is there a magical coloured band across the sky?

I don't know

god did it

then years later

ghostsorceu (1:03): before that ur grand parents discover it

xD^^

RivetSpawn (1:03): we discover that's what happens when light passes through water and it's not a god

ghostsorceu (1:04): god is not a light xD

RivetSpawn (1:04): yeah exactly

so it's not him

it's light

light is what created rainbows

we've found that out from looking at it and experimenting

ghostsorceu (1:04): who create all what exist

RivetSpawn (1:04): but peopel used to believe it was a god

ghostsorceu (1:05): space and all?

no one?

xD

RivetSpawn (1:05): space isn't anything..

space is gaps of nothing between lumps of rock and metal

ghostsorceu (1:05): who crate that metal and rocks?

RivetSpawn (1:05): if you don't know what created everything you don't make something up and say this guy did it

things dont have to be created

by anyone or anything

ghostsorceu (1:06): xD

RivetSpawn (1:06): time has no beginning or end

ghostsorceu (1:06): ^^

RivetSpawn (1:06): things can look like they are created but it is an illusion

ghostsorceu (1:06): he had an end ^^

RivetSpawn (1:07): water in a cup

thought to itself

I must have been created, I fit this cup perfectly..

it's an illusion

humans look like they have been created

but watch someone who can't fight off disease

they die

and only the ones that can live

and breed to create more that can

ghostsorceu (1:09): we were never a fish ^^

RivetSpawn (1:09): if all the sea disappeared, all the fish that couldnt survive in the air would die

and only ones that could would survive

ghostsorceu (1:09): my grand grand grandfather was not a fish

RivetSpawn (1:09): then they would breed

ghostsorceu (1:09): xD

RivetSpawn (1:09): and you would say they must have been created.. they can all breathe air..

everythign is different, even 2 children of the same parents

anythign that can't survive dies

leaving only ones that can

ghostsorceu (1:10): no ^^

RivetSpawn (1:10): and it becomes an illusion that things were designed to be like that

its just that if they weren't they die

ghostsorceu (1:10): i'm not living for this life but for the next one ;à

:)

RivetSpawn (1:11): so of course only created that look like they have been designed to live where they do

but I think this is the only life, so I'm enjoying it to the full :)

ghostsorceu (1:11): look to ahmed didat in youtube

RivetSpawn (1:11): you are living your life thinking you have another one after

so you aren't living it to the full

ghostsorceu (1:11): he is from england

^^

RivetSpawn (1:12): I will do sometime

but I'm just enjoying this discussion xD

ghostsorceu (1:12): he speak english ^^

RivetSpawn (1:12): you still havn't proved to me that gods exist

ghostsorceu (1:12): i'm so bad in english language

he is not

he will convaince u ^^

RivetSpawn (1:12): I bet he wont :p

he will say the same things you do

like god exists.. it says so in the book

but saying it's in a book isn't proof...

ghostsorceu (1:13): no he will say all what u don't know about islam^^

RivetSpawn (1:13): you know I'm not Islam for the same reasons that you are not christian

or pagan or sikh or any other

ghostsorceu (1:14): i believe to jesus is prphet of god ^^

RivetSpawn (1:14): but you believe because someone else told you

you didn't find this out for yourself

ghostsorceu (1:14): no

u will not found it after 1400years

xD

RivetSpawn (1:14): if nobody had told you about islam ever, would you still be?

ghostsorceu (1:15): yup

RivetSpawn (1:15): if you didn't know about it

how would you find out?

ghostsorceu (1:15): i will search

RivetSpawn (1:15): but there's nothing about it in the natural world

ghostsorceu (1:15): because we are not here just like that ^^

RivetSpawn (1:15): it all comes from man

in the form of book

ghostsorceu (1:15): no

RivetSpawn (1:15): and spoken word

ghostsorceu (1:15): mans don't create animals

humans don't create naturel world

RivetSpawn (1:16): man is an animal

ghostsorceu (1:16): xD^^

RivetSpawn (1:16): just another creature

ghostsorceu (1:16): no i'm not

xD

RivetSpawn (1:16): you are

look at a dog or a cat

they have eyes

a heart

lungs

legs

a head

we are both animals

ghostsorceu (1:17): no^^

RivetSpawn (1:17): they are just other life forms trying to survive

like we are

ghostsorceu (1:17): they can't think

RivetSpawn (1:17): eating other life

ghostsorceu (1:17): ^^

RivetSpawn (1:17): they can just not on our level

we have bigger brains

ghostsorceu (1:17): they will never will be in ower level ^^

RivetSpawn (1:17): obviously at some point in time humans were in a place where you could only survive if you had better brains

so the ones with lesser brains dies out

cats obviously got by just fine because they are still here

ghostsorceu (1:18): it's not happening^^

RivetSpawn (1:18): it is

it's been proved

that's what I was saying about bacteria

ghostsorceu (1:18): there is people who are not brains and they still alive

xD

:p

RivetSpawn (1:18): you can see it happen

yeah because they still get fed and looked after by others

bacteria breeds like every 24 seconds

and you can see that if you change their environment

the ones that can't survive there die

the ones that can survive and breed

ghostsorceu (1:20): we are not bacteries

RivetSpawn (1:20): it then looks like they were designed to be there

ghostsorceu (1:20): xD

RivetSpawn (1:20): no but the process is exactly the same for us

but we breed once every 20 years

so you can't watch it happen in an evening

for animals that take a long time to breed like us it takes millions of years

but the fossils we dig up show it happening

they prove it

with proof that you can actually look at and see it's real

you don't have to believe and tell yourself it's right

it's there for you to see and know

ghostsorceu (1:22): i'm msulim and i'm so happy to be a muslim^^

RivetSpawn (1:22): well that's awesome and if it makes you happy then it's a good thing

personally what makes me happy is knowing the truth and seeing the natural world

ghostsorceu (1:22): yup i'm feeling so good when i pray ^^

RivetSpawn (1:22): so thats probably why I'm like I am.. xD

RivetSpawn (1:23): I don't have a problem with it at all, if it's making people happy then it's a great thing

Just not for me personally because I'm happy with not knowing things until they can be proven I guess

ghostsorceu (1:24): yup^^

RivetSpawn (1:24): but yeah errrm

xD

right I have

Orianna

I went from 0 - 30 without playing anyone else

before I started trying anyone else

ghostsorceu (1:25): u have just orianna?

RivetSpawn (1:26): then I've tried fiddle, gragas, swain, lee sin, trundle, teemo, jax, singed, zilean, kayle, and a few others

the main ones I play now are udyr lee sin and trundle

ghostsorceu (1:26): and skins?

RivetSpawn (1:26): bladecraft orianna and primal Udyr

ghostsorceu (1:27): ^^

i want the one of vayne but i can't get it

:x

RivetSpawn (1:27): which one?

ghostsorceu (1:27): because of my credit card doesn't work in other countrys

:x

anyone^^

RivetSpawn (1:28): ahhh unlucky

I want Shurima Desert Zilean

ghostsorceu (1:29): ^^

RivetSpawn (1:29): he seems like an awesome time lord

that I'd want to believe in as a god xD

ghostsorceu (1:29): lol it's ur choice ^^