Oracle will not stop bundling what critics describe as "crapware" and "foistware" with its Java installer anytime soon, a company representative intimated last week.

The practice of offering up other software alongside Java updates, including emergency security updates to patch critical vulnerabilities, again came under fire last week as new reports surfaced of deceptive installation techniques.

During a conference call with leaders of the Java User Groups (JUG) last week, Doland Smith, who heads Oracle's OpenJDK team, cited contractual obligations that prevented him from discussing the bundling deal in detail. But he hinted that no changes were in the offing.

"When you have a commercial relationship like this, not only are you dealing with your [own] corporate policies on communication, and revenue recognition and all that kind of stuff, but you also have a commercial partnership and agreement that you have to abide by and follow," said Smith during the call.

Currently, the Java installer for Windows includes an offer for the Ask.com browser toolbar. Unless users explicitly uncheck a box on the Java installation screen -- in other words, opt out -- the toolbar automatically downloads and installs, and the browser's default search engine changes to Ask.com.

That raised the ire of long-time Windows blogger Ed Bott of ZDNet, and also got the attention of Ben Edelman, an associate professor at Harvard and expert on adware, online fraud and Internet privacy.

In pieces published Jan. 22, both Bott and Edelman took aim at Oracle for bundling the Ask.com toolbar with Java.

Bott found that the Ask.com toolbar was not immediately installed, but waited 10 minutes after Java finished to kick in. "I've never seen a legitimate program with an installer that behaves this way," said Bott, who speculated that the technique was an attempt to hide the toolbar's installation from technically-astute users.

Edelman was also caustic in his criticism of Oracle and the Ask.com toolbar installation, deeming the latter deceptive. Even worse, Edelman said, was that the offer was included with critical Java updates that patched recent "zero-day" vulnerabilities being exploited by criminals.

"The Java update is only needed as a result of a serious security flaw in Java," said Edelman. "It is troubling to see Oracle profit from this security flaw by using a security update as an opportunity to push users to install extra advertising software."

By bundling adware with its security updates, Oracle is teaching users to distrust its patching process, Edelman added.

Oracle's Smith disagreed.

"It's not specifically a security issue. It's a commercial, business-side issue," he said during last week's call. "The reason it's tied with security is that it's showing up when we push out new installers on the Windows platform. Really, it's not related to security directly."

Smith also defended the practice by saying Oracle had inherited the deal when it acquired Sun Microsystems, the creator of Java, in 2010. "This is not a new business, this is not something that Oracle started," Smith said. "This is a business that Sun initiated a long time ago."

Sun had bundled third-party software with Java since at least 2005, when it offered a Google toolbar. In the following years, Sun made similar arrangements with Microsoft and Yahoo, before switching to Ask.com.

While Smith stopped far short of saying that Oracle would drop the bundling, he tried to sooth obviously ruffled feathers among the JUG community. "It's something that we are looking at and constantly evaluating whether it's worth doing," he said. "What I can say is, we hear you loud and clear. We're aware of the concerns and we're looking at what we can do moving forward."

He also declined to give the JUG leaders an explanation for the odd installation behavior of the Ask.com toolbar, even as he agreed with another caller that it was "squirrelly."

"I agree that on the surface, when you look at, it's like, 'Why is it that way?'" Smith said. "It could be that we are never able to give a satisfactory answer. But I hope at some point we can clarify what that's about and why."

But Ask.com was more forthcoming with details.

"With Java, it's true our installer waits 10 minutes before running the install process, but this to ensure the JRE [Java Runtime Environment] updates properly without additional strain on a user's computer," an Ask.com spokeswoman said in an email reply to questions Monday. "This is not intended to trick users."

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