Is there footage of that?

No. It was fourth grade. We didn’t even have footage back then. Yeah, so that’s what this reminds me of.

But do you think the field is too big still?

I think that — of course, when you’re in it, you want it narrowed down. But it’s going to narrow down. I’m not as hyper about that as some people. And I think it’s hard for the voters to discern, and that’s where the debates can seem very messy to them. But I think once you get down to 12 people, something like that, it’s just going to be a little better.

You make veiled references to Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, about people having big plans that haven’t implemented them. Do you think they’re electable in a general election?

That’s going to be up to the voters. I would argue that the people of this country have had a lot of promises made by one Donald Trump, and that having someone that looks them in the eye and tells them the truth is going to be meaningful over time. And I would also add to that, I’m actually someone that has passed numerous bills, over 100 bills where I’m the lead Democrat, and that’s got to mean something.

Well, does everyone in the field count as someone who would get things done?

No. I don’t think so. I think people are going to have to evaluate the records to see what they passed, how they’ve worked together, what they’ve done. And it’s not just, especially for rural policy out here, putting together words on paper.

You’ve struggled to break into the top five candidates in this race. What do you make of the current state of things?

I don’t want to talk about the polls because if I just thought everything was polls right now, I don’t think that’s fair to our supporters —