KASICH: Now let’s go to this whole thing of D.C. voting rights, okay? I don’t know. I’d have to look at it. I’ll look at your editorials, whatever. Fair is fair. You’ve got a point there.

It’s like with, you know, being a leader, an executive of a big state: Pick your battles, pick your battles. And sometimes, you know what you do as a leader? You go, you call people, and you say, “Don’t pass that. Don’t move that bill. Don’t do that, because I’m going to have to veto it. So don’t do it.”

Or, if I’m going to do an executive order, the dirty little secret on the order is you call up the legislative leaders. You say, look — I’ll give you a perfect example. It was on the issue of autism.

I said, “You guys have been fumbling around with this bill. I can take care of this in one fell swoop. What do you say?”

“Well,” one said, “I don’t know, my caucus…”

I said, “Check your caucus.” Comes back, we do it. Done. Okay?

It’s, you know, and I think the breakdown here probably for longer than the last seven years has been an inability to understand how that place works, an inability to show respect, an inability to include people. I am not telling you I got —

MARCUS: Are there people who should be included, or are citizens of the District of Columbia who do not have, who pay the same taxes as —

KASICH: Yeah, I don’t know. Ruth, I have to see why, maybe I’ll have to flip flop my position, okay? I don’t know. Let me look at it. Let me think about it.

It’s just we’re not — I mean, that’s a good point. It’s kind of hard for me to argue against it. I’d have to hear what the argument is. I’ll call my friend [former Virginia congressman] Tom Davis. He’ll tell me the way to think about this.

MARCUS: I think you identified the argument.

ARMAO: He was for voting rights.

KASICH: Was he? I’ll call him, I’ll ask him.

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