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943Egypt Written by Deigrinder on 12.03.2010 at 07:32



Nergal SHoULD BURN ALL biblE and Quran....

N i don't understand why iss he charged for.....he just destroyed the (UN)Holy Bible...IF ppl can w(H)or(e)ship god...then why cant anyone destroy IT?

IS destroying bible that bad??n why is it a crime???







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From: Bangladesh Written by Storm Rider on 18.03.2010 at 12:47



I think this forum could be a good solution for both side. We can not blame each other, right. When we realise that we're living in this world, we will find like & dislike, try to accept it





You say we should try to accept our likings and dis-likings.Then Nergel should not be punished because they(All-Polish Committee for Defense Against Sects) must try to accept it. You say we should try to accept our likings and dis-likings.Then Nergel should not be punished because they(All-Polish Committee for Defense Against Sects) must try to accept it. Loading...

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From: Indonesia The answer is "Yes". Nargel do not deserve to punish, why? about holy Bible, human can not became a judge, only God who deserve judgement. I give you the clue & question back, John Pope II & Mother Teresa was a famous leader for Catholic people in the world. What did they teach to all Catholic Church, love (of course with forgivenes) or judgement ? if you can't find the answer, better you ask your Catholic friend if you have Loading...

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9708Canada Written by Guest on 09.03.2010 at 19:33



Hell get off with nothing, they always do, and yes, the catholics church is a murderous cult, God would be ashamed of what theyve become



Yeah! I mean, Red Cross was primarily based on the beliefs of a murderous cult! Fuck that cult! Yeah! *insert more uneducated, extremist, 16-year-old-trying-to-look-badass blather here.*



For chrissakes, a couple Christians take things a little out of hand and suddenly it's a murderous cult. Stupid shit has been done in the name of all religions, and visa versa, take a look at Stalin, he was an atheist, does that make atheism a dangerous mindset?



Basically what I'm saying here is the counter action should not be against the religion itself but the powers pushing these types of actions, which is what I believe Nargal's goal is here. My retort is basically in response to 3 pages flush full of the same "fuck Christianity" BS you can read on pretty much every metal website. There's still a lot of good being done in the world because of Christianity, it's just more hip to ignore the good and focus on the bad. Yeah! I mean, Red Cross was primarily based on the beliefs of a murderous cult! Fuck that cult! Yeah! *insert more uneducated, extremist, 16-year-old-trying-to-look-badass blather here.*For chrissakes, a couple Christians take things a little out of hand and suddenly it's a murderous cult. Stupid shit has been done in the name of all religions, and visa versa, take a look at Stalin, he was an atheist, does that make atheism a dangerous mindset?Basically what I'm saying here is the counter action should not be against the religion itself but the powers pushing these types of actions, which is what I believe Nargal's goal is here. My retort is basically in response to 3 pages flush full of the same "fuck Christianity" BS you can read on pretty much every metal website. There's still a lot of good being done in the world because of Christianity, it's just more hip to ignore the good and focus on the bad. ----

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Written by Guest on 09.03.2010 at 19:33



Hell get off with nothing, they always do, and yes, the catholics church is a murderous cult, God would be ashamed of what theyve become



Yeah! I mean, Red Cross was primarily based on the beliefs of a murderous cult! Fuck that cult! Yeah! *insert more uneducated, extremist, 16-year-old-trying-to-look-badass blather here.*



For chrissakes, a couple Christians take things a little out of hand and suddenly it's a murderous cult. Stupid shit has been done in the name of all religions, and visa versa, take a look at Stalin, he was an atheist, does that make atheism a dangerous mindset?



Basically what I'm saying here is the counter action should not be against the religion itself but the powers pushing these types of actions, which is what I believe Nargal's goal is here. My retort is basically in response to 3 pages flush full of the same "fuck Christianity" BS you can read on pretty much every metal website. There's still a lot of good being done in the world because of Christianity, it's just more hip to ignore the good and focus on the bad.





??, at what point did I say ONLY chritianity was bad, (by the way I am a christian, I just dot beleive in the church's morals) Besides, its not religion that makes things good, good people good do things. I mean Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, etc. all non-christians who were good people. I was just pointing out the fact that Nergal is ot COMPLETELY in the wrong here.



Oh, and by the way, Im 17, WAY more bad-ass than a 16 year old ??, at what point did I say ONLY chritianity was bad, (by the way I am a christian, I just dot beleive in the church's morals) Besides, its not religion that makes things good, good people good do things. I mean Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, etc. all non-christians who were good people. I was just pointing out the fact that Nergal is ot COMPLETELY in the wrong here.Oh, and by the way, Im 17, WAY more bad-ass than a 16 year old Loading...

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1469Canada Written by Angelic Storm on 14.03.2010 at 16:15



organised religion is society's cancer



Totally agreed. I consider not religion itself, but religious institutions, as a plague, a parasite that infects many public institutions. I think in our modern societies, those obsolete ideas should have been abandoned long ago. Totally agreed. I consider not religion itself, but religious institutions, as a plague, a parasite that infects many public institutions. I think in our modern societies, those obsolete ideas should have been abandoned long ago. ----

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Account deleted It's unfortunate that Poland would enforce such arbitrary laws. The Bible is nothing more than an ordinary book. There is nothing special or sacred about it. Here in America, despite the rampant Fundamentalist Christianity, Nergal could have easily torn up a Bible onstage because he is protected by the Constitution (although, it's not a very good idea to do something like that in the south). It seems that Europe, despite everything that it has given to America, still has a lot of catching up to do in regards to freedom. Loading...

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From: Indonesia Here the rules that Catholic church in Poland must understand "...you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." Loading...

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8441Czech Republic Written by Storm Rider on 31.03.2010 at 08:54



'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'





so this is why people in middle-ages were accusing their neighbors from witchery and then watching them burning...



thanks for further proofing how Christians are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites so this is why people in middle-ages were accusing their neighbors from witchery and then watching them burning...thanks for further proofing how Christians are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites

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From: Indonesia Hi Ellrohir,



What you've said was right but not all Christian the same like that (I mean hypocrites). Take a look people like Nelson Mandela, Warren Buffett or Oprah Winfrey, I believe there just some good Christian people & I believe you can see another good Christian around your neighbors too. Loading...

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http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=57328 Ok, so now the case was closed again and the world keeps turning...

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Account deleted Written by Ellrohir on 02.07.2010 at 12:44



Ok, so now the case was closed again and the world keeps turning...



http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=57328



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6791New Zealand Written by Ellrohir on 31.03.2010 at 11:21



Written by Storm Rider on 31.03.2010 at 08:54



'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'





so this is why people in middle-ages were accusing their neighbors from witchery and then watching them burning...



thanks for further proofing how Christians are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites



For the same thing why people in the 20th century were accusing their neighbours of being "enemies of state" to have them sent away to Stalinist work-camps to get the neighbour's house, cow, field and horse for themselves as a "reward for loyalty to the authorities"...



Apparently they did it because they were Christians because only Christians can do such things... and atheist would not have acted like that... NEVER! Only Christians are the worst possible people on earth right!



If someone beats the fuck out of his wife, it's because he's Christian (because Christians actually shouldn't be violent but they are in fact)

If someone rapes a girl on street, it's because he's Christian (because Christians shouldn't rape but they actually do).

If someone cheats on his wife, it's because he's Christian (because Christians shouldn't cheat on their spouses but all of them do anyway) etc

Because hypocrisy and contradicting the morals and ideals, that's all what Christianity is all about isn't it?!

I'll become an atheist today so I'll automatically be a better person instantly! I won't forget mentioning this to other Christians around me so we'll all become nice and normal people and so we can all build a harmonious and beautiful future with all of you! What an enlightenment!



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If animals eat their children then it's because they're Christians, the Icelandic volcano also erupted because it was Christian... it's like a black hole the Christianity thing... For the same thing why people in the 20th century were accusing their neighbours of being "enemies of state" to have them sent away to Stalinist work-camps to get the neighbour's house, cow, field and horse for themselves as a "reward for loyalty to the authorities"...Apparently they did it because they were Christians because only Christians can do such things... and atheist would not have acted like that... NEVER! Only Christians are the worst possible people on earth right!If someone beats the fuck out of his wife, it's because he's Christian (because Christians actually shouldn't be violent but they are in fact)If someone rapes a girl on street, it's because he's Christian (because Christians shouldn't rape but they actually do).If someone cheats on his wife, it's because he's Christian (because Christians shouldn't cheat on their spouses but all of them do anyway) etcBecause hypocrisy and contradicting the morals and ideals, that's all what Christianity is all about isn't it?!I'll become an atheist today so I'll automatically be a better person instantly! I won't forget mentioning this to other Christians around me so we'll all become nice and normal people and so we can all build a harmonious and beautiful future with all of you! What an enlightenment!PS...If animals eat their children then it's because they're Christians, the Icelandic volcano also erupted because it was Christian... it's like a black hole the Christianity thing... ----

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8441Czech Republic I think your hysterical post if far from the meaning i had in mind with mine...



what i tried to point out is, that Christians have established a number of rules...they are telling others to live according to them...but as the witch hunting showed us, they dont hesitate to break the rules, when it is for "higher good"...and whats more - it even isnt considered as breaking the rules and it isnt punished...it is even glorified...



take football - "you shall not play with hand"...if you do, you are punished...if you arent punished immediately, because the ref is blind, you are at least hunted down with the media and fans later...noone says "yes, that was good, great job, you are god"



thats what i find hypocritical...

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14770Brazil So Christians are simply human beings that try to live by a slightly higher standard than the rest of us... and sometimes fall short.



they're human.



but they're the easy targets because they don't really fight back, so people pile on.



they are hardly the biggest threat to the world today... i can think of another "ism" that is far more dangerous. but you don't see people piling on that "ism" or using getting public funding to piss in a vat and toss in symbols of significance to that "ism".



of course, it would take actual balls to take on an "ism" that will hit you back.



so while Nergy might have balls for his actions, most of the people frothing at their keyboards are just trying to look bad and dangerous while exposing the flaws of an "ism" that teaches "turning the other cheek." bullying a safe target.



if they had real balls, they'd attack other "isms" that seem to be ok in MMX CE with blowing up civilians for no other reason than disagreeing with them. and if there are no outsiders following other "isms" to attack, they turn on themselves and blow up others following their "ism" because they "follow the gourd instead of the shoe."

get the fuck off my lawn.



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6791New Zealand Written by Ellrohir on 03.07.2010 at 01:06



I think your hysterical post if far from the meaning i had in mind with mine...



what i tried to point out is, that Christians have established a number of rules...they are telling others to live according to them...but as the witch hunting showed us, they dont hesitate to break the rules



Hysterical? No, I enjoyed giving a massage to the irony button... even Christians like that...



Christians have established a number of rules? OH YES! All rules on the earth are all Christian-established...



And you really really love the witch hunting thing...



Written by BitterCOld on 03.07.2010 at 02:01



of course, it would take actual balls to take on an "ism" that will hit you back.



so while Nergy might have balls for his actions, most of the people frothing at their keyboards are just trying to look bad and dangerous while exposing the flaws of an "ism" that teaches "turning the other cheek." bullying a safe target.



if they had real balls, they'd attack other "isms"





Oh yes... there's some -isms out there... some -isms are actually rather hostile... we had a book here bout one particular violent -ism, in the USSR people were jailed for owning it and when we finally left USSR and some publishers tried to publish this book again all the copies were collected and destroyed because it's absolutely forbidden to write anything negative about this -ism... on the other hand, all kinds of books speaking bout "New Testament is actually a lie"/"Jesus was actually a drug addict who died of a venereal disease instead of the cross"/"Mary was a ho" etc are published like mushrooms after the rain... and it's completely OK to do that... after all, Christians apparently deserve it for the centuries of repression against the other -ists... Hysterical? No, I enjoyed giving a massage to the irony button... even Christians like that...Christians have established a number of rules? OH YES! All rules on the earth are all Christian-established...And you really really love the witch hunting thing...Oh yes... there's some -isms out there... some -isms are actually rather hostile... we had a book here bout one particular violent -ism, in the USSR people were jailed for owning it and when we finally left USSR and some publishers tried to publish this book again all the copies were collected and destroyed because it's absolutely forbidden to write anything negative about this -ism... on the other hand, all kinds of books speaking bout "New Testament is actually a lie"/"Jesus was actually a drug addict who died of a venereal disease instead of the cross"/"Mary was a ho" etc are published like mushrooms after the rain... and it's completely OK to do that... after all, Christians apparently deserve it for the centuries of repression against the other -ists... ----

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8441Czech Republic I would be piling on "-ism" anytime...but in nowadays world, including this forum, i should be easily charged for spreading hatred





and i am definitely not trying to fight with Christianity as the "biggest threat of current world"...i am just saying they are hypocrites...

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