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tama2d2







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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:04 am Post subject: Cv Sequencer output from the modular g1

Subject description: cv output without mods, only patches



the gate 16 steps was created with 32 steps because Every one needs a silence behind in order to reactivate the following.



I hope you will. They were tested with a Doepfer system and work perfectly.



Sorry about my english



http://www.hispasonic.com/forums.html?controller=forum&action=view_attachment&attachment_id=154929





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cv sequencer permet créer un sequenceur analogique 16 pas avec pitch out (sortie phones out) et un gate (sortie out 2 ou right) merci de noter que 33 variations du pitch vers le haut et 32 vers le bas du sequenceur de notes correspondent aux 12 tons d'une octave de plus ou une octave de moins.



le gate de 16 pas à été crée avec 32 pas car chaqu'un a besoin d'un silence derrière pour pouvoir réactiver le suivant.



J'espère qui vous servira. Ils ont été testés avec un système doepfer et fonctionnent à la perfection.



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"secuenciador cv" un secuenciador de 16 pasos (aunque se puede ampliar hasta 64 para quien lo desee) para sintes analógicos programados con el micromodular. Probado en el dark energy funciona perfecto (unico bemol!: una octava de mas se hace añadiendo 33 subidas de tono a la nota original, una octava de menos se hace bajando 32 bajadas de tono a la nota original. No he podido de otro modo, asi que hay que calcular las conversiones - 33 variaciones son 12 semitonos - . Señalar también que los 32 pasos del gate corresponden en realidad a 16 pasos reales ya que cada paso necesita un silencio detras para reactivarse de nuevo el siguiente.



Lo he probado en el moog y no va bien, creo que porque el moog funciona en otro voltaje para el gate y el pitch



Salida Phones envia las notas,



salida out 2 (right) envia el gate



A disfrutarlo señores Hello, i've created a cv sequencer that enables you to create an analog sequencer with 16 steps with pitch (output phones) and gate (out 2 or right) Note: 33 changes of the pitch up and 32 down in the sequencer notes correspond to 12 tones of an octave upper or an octave lower.the gate 16 steps was created with 32 steps because Every one needs a silence behind in order to reactivate the following.I hope you will. They were tested with a Doepfer system and work perfectly.Sorry about my englishDescription in French & Spanish:cv sequencer permet créer un sequenceur analogique 16 pas avec pitch out (sortie phones out) et un gate (sortie out 2 ou right) merci de noter que 33 variations du pitch vers le haut et 32 vers le bas du sequenceur de notes correspondent aux 12 tons d'une octave de plus ou une octave de moins.le gate de 16 pas à été crée avec 32 pas car chaqu'un a besoin d'un silence derrière pour pouvoir réactiver le suivant.J'espère qui vous servira. Ils ont été testés avec un système doepfer et fonctionnent à la perfection.________________________________"secuenciador cv" un secuenciador de 16 pasos (aunque se puede ampliar hasta 64 para quien lo desee) para sintes analógicos programados con el micromodular. Probado en el dark energy funciona perfecto (unico bemol!: una octava de mas se hace añadiendo 33 subidas de tono a la nota original, una octava de menos se hace bajando 32 bajadas de tono a la nota original. No he podido de otro modo, asi que hay que calcular las conversiones - 33 variaciones son 12 semitonos - . Señalar también que los 32 pasos del gate corresponden en realidad a 16 pasos reales ya que cada paso necesita un silencio detras para reactivarse de nuevo el siguiente.Lo he probado en el moog y no va bien, creo que porque el moog funciona en otro voltaje para el gate y el pitchSalida Phones envia las notas,salida out 2 (right) envia el gateA disfrutarlo señores

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:52 am Post subject: So, the G1 headphone output is DC coupled I did not know that.



Thanks for posting this news.



I just tested my G2 Keyboard headphone output, and it is also capable of passing a DC voltage. It can produce a voltage range slightly greater than +8 to -8 volts. The output voltage is inverted in relation to the polarity of the G2 patch signal, but that is not a big problem. So, the G1 headphone output is DC coupledI did not know that.Thanks for posting this news.I just tested my G2 Keyboard headphone output, and it is also capable of passing a DC voltage. It can produce a voltage range slightly greater than +8 to -8 volts. The output voltage is inverted in relation to the polarity of the G2 patch signal, but that is not a big problem.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:44 am Post subject:



i enjoy it massively with the sequencer, or an lfo's, or other stuffs





here a little demo of the cv sequencer in a micro modular linked with a dark energy



Sorry but it is in spanish



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw5TIuQQxp4&list=PLEg_sTxP2KQjerUwx0gBIGu8V_WJeW7aT



Cheers I'm very glad to help you, it's a great "new" featurei enjoy it massively with the sequencer, or an lfo's, or other stuffshere a little demo of the cv sequencer in a micro modular linked with a dark energySorry but it is in spanishCheers

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:27 am Post subject:



that took like 15 years to find out, or what was it?



Great find! that took like 15 years to find out, or what was it?Great find!

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: thanks!

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:46 am Post subject:



after that i said to myself... i'm sure that's possible with the microdoluar! and after 2 days of experimentation i built one lfo cv output... after that the cv sequencer comes out easily



that's all folks I discover it after to buy the phone app "brute lfo" thats uses the phone's output to send an cv lfo....after that i said to myself... i'm sure that's possible with the microdoluar! and after 2 days of experimentation i built one lfo cv output... after that the cv sequencer comes out easilythat's all folks

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject: tama2d2 wrote: I'm very glad to help you, it's a great "new" feature



i enjoy it massively with the sequencer, or an lfo's, or other stuffs ...

You can even use it as a MIDI to CV Note Pitch/Gate convertor



Several years ago I modified my Nord Modular G2X synth to get a DC CV signal output to control/modulate the cutoff frequency of a moogerfooger MF-101 Low Pass Filter pedal to use as an external analog filter module. It works great. Check this out:



http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-12266.html



But it now appears that modification is not mandatory to achieve my goal. I’m not sure now why I did not check the headphone output at the time for DC CV output. I can only guess that I had incorrectly assumed that the headphone output was also DC blocked as are the signals to the audio output jacks. I think that maybe I had also assumed that the output 3 and 4 busses were also routed to the headphone amp, but that is NOT the case (at least on my G2 Keyboard running OS 1.62 or my G2X running OS 1.40). I need to do some more testing to see if it works as well using the headphone output for the CV signal… You can even use it as a MIDI to CV Note Pitch/Gate convertorSeveral years ago I modified my Nord Modular G2X synth to get a DC CV signal output to control/modulate the cutoff frequency of a moogerfooger MF-101 Low Pass Filter pedal to use as an external analog filter module. It works great. Check this out:But it now appears that modification is not mandatory to achieve my goal. I’m not sure now why I did not check the headphone output at the time for DC CV output.I can only guess that I had incorrectly assumed that the headphone output was also DC blocked as are the signals to the audio output jacks. I think that maybe I had also assumed that the output 3 and 4 busses were also routed to the headphone amp, but that is NOT the case (at least on my G2 Keyboard running OS 1.62 or my G2X running OS 1.40). I need to do some more testing to see if it works as well using the headphone output for the CV signal…

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:28 am Post subject: varice wrote: ...I need to do some more testing to see if it works as well using the headphone output for the CV signal…

It works



Gracias Nacho It worksGracias Nacho

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:03 am Post subject: Great find, this going to be really useful!! Thanks very much!

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:06 am Post subject: You're welcome Varice! i'm very glad for you!

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:06 am Post subject: Thanks X 1 000 000 tama2d2 !!! Good deduction from the phone app.



Quote: that took like 15 years to find out, or what was it?



haha! that's funny! What's next ?! haha! that's funny! What's next ?!

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:04 pm Post subject: Awesome! Thanks tama2d2!!! That made my weekend.

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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:16 am Post subject: Great find!

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:01 am Post subject: to save other G1 owners getting too excited, the voltages max out for me at 1.8 +/- on both the keys and mm, still handy but nothing like the 8v described above !

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:24 am Post subject: Blue Hell wrote:



that took like 15 years to find out, or what was it?



Great find!



To be honest I'm disappointed in you Jan, I thought you knew everything about the G2.



Maybe now To be honest I'm disappointed in you Jan, I thought you knew everything about the G2.Maybe now

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:30 am Post subject: Just been thinking about it (out walking the dog in the pub), as there are 2 outputs would it be possible to use one as a clock and the other as a multiplexed signal and knock some hardware together to demultiplex this to multiple cv outs, like a clocked S&H sort of thingy?

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:28 am Post subject:



Yeah multiplexing would be possible, and then while you're at it for the NM Classic could amp the signal up a bit too ... let's say by 8 / 1.8 rightYeah multiplexing would be possible, and then while you're at it for the NM Classic could amp the signal up a bit too ... let's say by 8 / 1.8

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: But not just using a clock .. you would need a frame sync too to sync up synthside and audio side channel numbering.

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:46 am Post subject: Blue Hell wrote: But not just using a clock .. you would need a frame sync too to sync up synthside and audio side channel numbering.



Good point Good point

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:47 am Post subject: Could that just be done with different voltages (on the clock signal) though?

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: Possible, yes, hey we seem to re-invent analog TV

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:38 pm Post subject: avantronica wrote: ...the voltages max out for me at 1.8 +/- on both the keys and mm...

That seems to be too low. Are you sure that you are getting the maximum patch signal level to the output?



I found a note where I recorded several years ago that my G1 Rack could produce about 6.4 volts peak-to-peak before clipping.

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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:54 am Post subject: If you own for example the Moog CP-251 you can use the inbuilt attenuators to adjust the voltage.

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