This week on Fox News Radio, host John Gibson had a heated exchange with Malik Zulu Shabazz, the former head of the New Black Panther Party and current head of Black Lawyers for Justice who called for a “rebellion” if Ferguson, MO officer Darren Wilson is not indicted on murder charges.

Several times Shabazz explained he is calling for a, “rebellion” against America and the “wicked world order,” explaining “we have as much right to rebel against America society as America did against the British.”

He said while he would not call for violence, he would also not condemn it because he explained, “The authority of the white man and white America is illegitimate. You have been killing us for 400 years.”

Shabazz has been on the ground in Ferguson leading protests since Michael Brown was fatally shot by police office Darren Wilson earlier this summer.

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