NOFX frontman and Fat Wreck Chords founder Mike Burkett, better known as Fat Mike, never thought he would be able to pay the bills with punk rock. But luckily for him — and music fans everywhere — he turned out to be wrong.

25 years (give or take, as he explains in the interview) into Fat Wreck Chords' existence, Mike joins Shad to reflect on the label's history and how he's seen it grow from fledgling startup to one of the most important entities in the punk world.

Fat Wreck Chords founder Fat Mike brings a punk ethos to how he runs his business. (Eleanor Knowles/CBC)

WEB EXTRA | We talked to Fat Mike about his new musical "Home Street Home" in the extended version of our chat — watch that section of the interview below and the full thing at the top of the page.