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Preface to this: former massive stan, not throwing real shade; just disappointed at lack of growth.





He is using this rhyme scheme (throughout the whole song):



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From 1:08-1:41 he used the phrase "spit it" or "rip it" or "with it" 11 times . In between he used what I call "fillers" which can be seen throughout other freestyles (I don't know the technical term) to fill in and set himself up for another rhyme, fillers include:



-"from the X to the X" such as "from the pond to the Bay" (used this 2 or 3 times) -- usually "from West Deer Park to X" but he switched it up since he's in the UK

-"this fiya, hiya than" fluctuated in a way from "this fire, higher than" (used this twice)

-"neva tha less" fluctuated in a way from "never the less" so he can rhyme it with his classic "X with ****es cause we the bess" (best)

-"this is how we do it" usually followed up with a "down in the X" or "up in the" or "with (name, such as "this is how we do it, chillin' with Westwood")"

-"****es" this is used as often as "god damn" as a filler, and usually is set up with a "chillin' with tha" or "chillin wit deez" since the "z" in "deez" is used to line it up with "chiz" sound in "****es"



This is just 33 seconds of this freestyle. You take any freestyle of his, break it down, and he's literally saying nothing. His music is not much better. He said it's off the top because he has a formula he uses, which is more in-depth than this quick review, and one of the reasons people think he's bland.



You compare this to a GOAT freestyle like Dipset's Rap City one, and you have two completely different tiers of both lyricism, humor, punchlines, and overall appeal.



And he is using the exact same verse word-for-word for 2 minutes straight starting at 1:45 in:







Here's the verses he's spit twice before (the first link is a broken UStream link he had up previous to the Westwood freestyle, two years prior):



kim on about 5 years ago He has the same cadence in every single one of his freestyles because he relies on the same rhyme schemes. He heavily relies on the following sounds:



-"ehn" pronounced as "in" but with a certain sort of accent to allow for more lenient and flexible rhyming, such as rhyming "in" with "when"

-"lih"

-"vih"

-"it" such as "delicate" versus "delegate" where he pronounces it as "cit" and "git" allow for a smooth rhyme (flexible, yet again)

-"l" (the L sound at the end of words)

-"z" (the Z sound I mentioned earlier such as "deez bitches")



Among other sounds which I'll break down just a bit. This is the exact same flow and cadence that he uses in his other freestyles. Examples? Sure:



Example 1, a UStream freestyle that was meant to be spit over the exact same beat that he did his Westwood freestyle on (which I'll use as a second example):







"lies"

"dies"

"multiplies"



"take it"

"make it"

"realize it" this is a combination of the z sound mentioned earlier and the all-too-common it sound as also seen above

"helluvit"

"until the flows celibate" this is a combination of the z sound mentioned earlier and the all-too-common it sound as also seen above

"people that get delegate" this is also a popular scheme he uses, where he pronounces "le" at the end of the words with "uh" and pronounces "that" as "dat" -- in this case, he says with his accent: "pee puh deh geh dela git"

"delicate"

"etiquette"



Now let's see if he switches up his cadence as you mentioned... will he?



Example 2:







Oh wait it's the same freestyle, just a few years later. But let's give him another chance and check out his acapella part since he knows fans would be disappointed that he just re-spit an old freestyle.



"novella"

"umbrella"



This is elementary school ****.



"letterman in the rain" uses "lettamin" to attempt and rhyme with "rain" but it doesn't work

3:20-3:33 is his classic VMG shout out about how he can not be a major label slave (that's something unique, right?)



"fist"

"this"



"suck seed" stolen line from Gambino, but since they're one in the same, it's not really "stolen" per se, right?



I'm not seeing anything unique. Has same technique on almost every song.





Logic: Why you recycling the same **** 3 times? Your 2nd major album has repeated lines throughout from Young Sinatra era. The production is solid, but the rhymes fall so short. You have some hard bars for sure, but the lack of progression and overly-relying on the CoD/swag out community that you started from to support you, hinders you as well. You preach creativity and originality, drawing from the greats (Ye, Cole, Kendrick, Biggie, other influences he's stated such as WTC/Rakim/etc.) yet, you recycle and recycle more than a trash man. Show us you have diversity, because as a former stan turned normal fan, I'm disappointed. Same rhyme schemes, despite impeccable flow and technical skill, and the bars leave me seeking more depth.













He is using this rhyme scheme (throughout the whole song):And he is using the exact same verse word-for-word for 2 minutes straight starting at 1:45 in:Here's the verses he's spit twice before (the first link is a broken UStream link he had up previous to the Westwood freestyle, two years prior):Why you recycling the same **** 3 times? Your 2nd major album has repeated lines throughout from Young Sinatra era. The production is solid, but the rhymes fall so short. You have some hard bars for sure, but the lack of progression and overly-relying on the CoD/swag out community that you started from to support you, hinders you as well. You preach creativity and originality, drawing from the greats (Ye, Cole, Kendrick, Biggie, other influences he's stated such as WTC/Rakim/etc.) yet, you recycle and recycle more than a trash man. Show us you have diversity, because as a former stan turned normal fan, I'm disappointed. Same rhyme schemes, despite impeccable flow and technical skill, and the bars leave me seeking more depth.