Today during a panel at PAX East, Gearbox Software CEO Randy Pitchford teased some new details about the next Borderlands game. He started off by confirming that, “Obviously, there is going to be another Borderlands.” He also warned against getting too attached to that name, as he added, “We don’t even know if we’re going to call it that.”

It was also confirmed today during the presentation that Battleborn art director Scott Kester is also the art director for Borderlands 3, or whatever it ends up being called. He was also the art director for Borderlands 2.

We also learned that Gearbox chief creative champion Mikey Neumann, who wrote Gearbox’s mainline Brothers in Arms games, is writing the next Borderlands. He also wrote the first Borderlands.

What’s the story? He joked, “Everyone dies horribly.”

On a possibly more serious note, Neumann said the character Scooter from Tales from the Borderlands might be referenced in Borderlands 3. Neumann is thinking about giving Scooter a son named Scooper (who has a super high-pitched voice) who will appear in Borderlands 3.

This character, created out of a desire to appease Pitchford’s wife who was devastated by Scooter’s fate in Tales from the Borderlands, might not make it into the new Borderlands, however, Pitchford warned.

Finally, Pitchford also teased Battleborn’s upcoming DLC, which will contain some references to Borderlands 3. He suggested that Battleborn players “look deeply” at this content for details.

Borderlands 3 was originally announced in January 2015, at which time Pitchford referred to it as “the big one.” Parent publisher Take-Two later clarified that this game is being developed “specifically for next-gen,” indicating it will launch for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, as well as presumably PC.

The Borderlands franchise debuted in 2009 with the original Borderlands and its sequel Borderlands 2 arrived in 2012. That game is the best-selling title in 2K’s history and has sold “well over” 12 million copies.

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