Bibbit Profile Blog Joined December 2009 Canada 5098 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-05 06:58:36 #1



But then we come to Antiga Shipyard. On this map, there is a ramp you can wall off reasonably well, as shown below.



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Alternatively, and perhaps more commonly, you can do the Nexus-based wall in, pictured here:



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The problem with the former case is

1) the ramp is pretty far to be making those early buildings; and

2) the ramp is pretty fat so your wall is spread out and more prone to Baneling busts.



In the second case, the wall works out just as well as that layout does on other maps like Metalopolis, it’s still pretty prone to big roach busts or even smaller roach pressures. So which wall do you go for? Let’s take a quick poll of which one is more common for TLers before I introduce my ingenious solution.



Poll: PvZ Opening on Antiga



Nexus Wall (276)

46%



Ramp Wall (196)

33%



One base to start (124)

21%



596 total votes (276)46%(196)33%(124)21%596 total votes Your vote: PvZ Opening on Antiga (Vote): One base to start

(Vote): Ramp Wall

(Vote): Nexus Wall







Hokay so now we got the preamble out of the way and it’s time to get to the meat of my idea. I wanted a wall that would be pretty resilient to both Baneling busts and Roach busts. Without further adieu, I’m going to show you the result of hours of thought and engineering, and then explain why I’m so goddamn smart afterwards.



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Alright, I’m sure you’re all going to need a moment to let it sink in and allow the thoughts of “Omg that’s so brilliant, I can’t believe I never thought of it!” to pass. Have you recovered yet? Great, lets move on.



There are no pylons or anything like that in the wall which makes it a lot harder to bust with banelings. The Nexus, for example, take 25 banes to destroy. Further, with this type of wall, its easy to slam down a bunch of cannons behind if Roaches start trying to kill you!



But I know what you’re thinking. “Your nexus is so far away from the natural’s resources!” While this may appear true, please relax and hear me out. You see that assimilator in the bottom left of the picture I provided? You can saturate that perfectly with only 4 probes! I haven’t done all the number-crunching for how many probes it takes to saturate the entire base fully, but I suspect you can mine minerals optimally from it with an absolute MAX of 50 probes. And probably just about 10 or so more for the other gas!



Now you’re thinking “That’s great and I can tell that you’re clearly a genius the likes of which we have never seen, but I’m not sure it provides enough of a benefit to warrant me switching up my style. Is there anything else your product brilliant tactic can do for me?”



Of course there is! The beauty of this Nexus placement is that it very close to being in the middle of the natural and the third base. So when you want a third base, instead of having to build a third nexus, you can simply throw a bunch of probes onto the other side and easily save the 400 minerals! With that money, you can build a pylon and two cannons underneath the opposition’s morphing Brood Lords!



Anybody who is still unconvinced at this point is surely a troll of some sort. I ask you kindly to please leave, as this is a troll-free environment.



Thanks for hearing out my incredible idea, and I’d like to leave you with another poll to see how many people have seen the light! Bye !



Poll: How Will You Open PvZ on Antiga?



Bibbit's innovative new ramp-wall (534)

76%



Nexus Wall (68)

10%



Old school ramp wall (53)

8%



One Base (46)

7%



701 total votes (534)76%(68)10%(53)8%(46)7%701 total votes Your vote: How Will You Open PvZ on Antiga? (Vote): Bibbit's innovative new ramp-wall

(Vote): Old school ramp wall

(Vote): Nexus Wall

(Vote): One Base





Edit:

On January 05 2012 15:23 HeavOnEarth wrote:

OMG

i did a blind bane bust and some guy walled off like this!

i only made 5-6 banes .. and TONS of lings.. but i couldnt fit through because my banes couldnt break the any part of his ridiculous wall



Needless to say i typed out gg wp.

You say this can't work at the highest level? Top 20 GM player HeavOnEarth of the newly reformed Team LighT had this to say:

Many of you probably know that there’s two main layouts of Forge Fast Expands, or FFEs. On maps like Shakuras or Tal Darim Altar, you can do a more BW-style wall where you have a choke, jam a bunch of shit in it, and slap a cannon or two behind it. However, since that’s not always possible on a lot of the maps in the current pool, people have resorted to making walls by tucking a bunch of shit between their nexus and ramp, then slapping a cannon or two behind it. One map this is prevalent on is Metalopolis.But then we come to Antiga Shipyard. On this map, there is a ramp you can wall off reasonably well, as shown below.Alternatively, and perhaps more commonly, you can do the Nexus-based wall in, pictured here:The problem with the former case is1) the ramp is pretty far to be making those early buildings; and2) the ramp is pretty fat so your wall is spread out and more prone to Baneling busts.In the second case, the wall works out just as well as that layout does on other maps like Metalopolis, it’s still pretty prone to big roach busts or even smaller roach pressures. So which wall do you go for? Let’s take a quick poll of which one is more common for TLers before I introduce my ingenious solution.Hokay so now we got the preamble out of the way and it’s time to get to the meat of my idea. I wanted a wall that would be pretty resilient to both Baneling busts and Roach busts. Without further adieu, I’m going to show you the result of hours of thought and engineering, and then explain why I’m so goddamn smart afterwards.Alright, I’m sure you’re all going to need a moment to let it sink in and allow the thoughts of “Omg that’s so brilliant, I can’t believe I never thought of it!” to pass. Have you recovered yet? Great, lets move on.There are no pylons or anything like that in the wall which makes it a lot harder to bust with banelings. The Nexus, for example, take 25 banes to destroy. Further, with this type of wall, its easy to slam down a bunch of cannons behind if Roaches start trying to kill you!But I know what you’re thinking. “Your nexus is so far away from the natural’s resources!” While this may appear true, please relax and hear me out. You see that assimilator in the bottom left of the picture I provided? You can saturate that perfectly with only 4 probes! I haven’t done all the number-crunching for how many probes it takes to saturate the entire base fully, but I suspect you can mine minerals optimally from it with anof 50 probes. And probably just about 10 or so more for the other gas!Now you’re thinking “That’s great and I can tell that you’re clearly a genius the likes of which we have never seen, but I’m not sure it provides enough of a benefit to warrant me switching up my style. Is there anything else yourbrilliant tactic can do for me?”Of course there is! The beauty of this Nexus placement is that it very close to being in the middle of the natural and the third base. So when you want a third base, instead of having to build a third nexus, you can simply throw a bunch of probes onto the other side and easily save the 400 minerals! With that money, you can build a pylon and two cannons underneath the opposition’s morphing Brood Lords!Anybody who is still unconvinced at this point is surely a troll of some sort. I ask you kindly to please leave, as this is a troll-free environment.Thanks for hearing out my incredible idea, and I’d like to leave you with another poll to see how many people have seen the light! Bye !Edit: + Show Spoiler [Testimony] +