JOHN KERRY: Well, Bob, I think there's frankly a kind of tortured debate going on about terminology, what I'm focused on obviously is getting done what needs to be done to ISIL. But if people need to find a place to land in terms of what we did in Iraq originally, this is not a war. Its not combat troops on the ground, its not hundreds of thousands of people, its not that kind of mobilization. But, in terms of al-Qaeda, which we have used the word war with, yeah we are at war with al-Qaeda and its affiliates. And in the same context, if you want to use it, yes we're at war with ISIL, in that sense. But I think it's a waste of time to focus on that.