Asked if he would have stayed in Green Bay, Campen replied, “Not with the offer that I had (from Cleveland).” Of course, because Campen was under contract for the 2019 season, he wouldn’t have gotten that offer from new Browns head coach Freddie Kitchens if the Packers had not told him he wasn’t being retained.

“The chance to advance (as an associate head coach) would have been very difficult to turn down, and I would not have done that,” Campen said. “Now, you don’t know those things until someone’s allowed you to go out and seek another (job) or get an interview or what have you. … And I really connected with Freddie Kitchens, big-time.”

Campen said he spent four hours with LaFleur last week before departing for Cleveland, though, and came away impressed with him

“Matt LaFleur, the way he’s handling himself over there and trying to do things the right way with being a first-year guy, he’s doing a really good job,” Campen said. “He’s been up-front and honest, he communicates very well with all the shuffling around and people coming in and out. I’m very impressed with his demeanor.