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LegendaryActivity: 1372Merit: 1000 Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) September 15, 2014, 07:49:27 PM #2585 Quote from: btcseller2b on September 15, 2014, 07:12:07 PM Some things to think about



Many other individuals, and groups are working on anonymous coins. It is very safe to say that many of those people are more experienced with altcoins and cryptography than gnosis.



Also what happened to the idea of copyleft and similar supposed values? Anc basically has an undelivered algo, by an unknown developer, which will be ready at an unknown date, and people are pretending it is some prize that must be protected?

How is it safe to say that at all??? Also all that the community is asking for is that the ANC Zerocoin github is started to be made public in eight weeks time instead of two. A brand new account posted the above quote too??? I think the followers of this thread should get used to the idea of lots of shill accounts also popping up in the thread to attack the coin. Most likely long term fanboys and bagholders of other coins trying to release an anonymous coin. A trustless implementation of the Zerocoin protocol has long been considered the holy grail of transaction anonymity. The only other protocol that even comes close is the ring-signature technique of cryptonote coins like Monero. The CoinJoin technique that most of these wanna-be 'anoncoins' are implementing is not really anonymous and only obfuscates transactions from simple analysis. How is it safe to say that at all??? Also all that the community is asking for is that the ANC Zerocoin github is started to be made public in eight weeks time instead of two. A brand new account posted the above quote too??? I think the followers of this thread should get used to the idea of lots of shill accounts also popping up in the thread to attack the coin. Most likely long term fanboys and bagholders of other coins trying to release an anonymous coin. A trustless implementation of the Zerocoin protocol has long been considered the holy grail of transaction anonymity. The only other protocol that even comes close is the ring-signature technique of cryptonote coins like Monero. The CoinJoin technique that most of these wanna-be 'anoncoins' are implementing is not really anonymous and only obfuscates transactions from simple analysis. The Freedom Box Foundation - The Free Network Foundation - FairCoop The Earth Cooperative For a Fair Economy

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MemberActivity: 73Merit: 10There's a new king in the streets Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) September 15, 2014, 08:00:24 PM #2586 On a different tack ...



Is it envisaged that zANC transactions will have higher fees than a regular ANC-ANC transaction ?



It kind of makes sense if to get zerocoin anonymity there will be additional blockchain bloat and mining effort required ...



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Sr. MemberActivity: 456Merit: 261Look at these crypto Morty! Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) September 15, 2014, 10:57:42 PM #2589 Quote from: gunzeon on September 15, 2014, 08:00:24 PM On a different tack ...



Is it envisaged that zANC transactions will have higher fees than a regular ANC-ANC transaction ?



It kind of makes sense if to get zerocoin anonymity there will be additional blockchain bloat and mining effort required ...



ideas anyone ?



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MemberActivity: 101Merit: 10 Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) September 15, 2014, 11:25:49 PM #2590



Quote from: btcseller2b on September 15, 2014, 07:12:07 PM [...]

3) It is silly for such a fuss about others stealing zerocoin from anc when anc took it, nearly complete, from others with no negotiation nor respect.

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Negotiation was not possible, since the Zerocoin team at JHU ignored my attempts to reach out for months, and I have credited them in the past, and will also credit them in the Anoncoin app when Zerocoin is released. Furthermore, they obviously no longer have a stake in libzerocoin, as they started from scratch to design a new system that they believe is better. I disagree with that belief since there is apparently no way to generate the parameters in a trustless manner, so I am building on their original system.



Also, it is not a trivial matter to add RSA UFO support (which I have completed a couple days ago), and integrate it into a working crypto-currency (which I am now working on). This is why no other coins have added Zerocoin, AFAIK. Okay troll, this is my first and last reply to you, since I'll be putting you on my ignore list.Negotiation was not possible, since the Zerocoin team at JHU ignored my attempts to reach out for months, and I have credited them in the past, and will also credit them in the Anoncoin app when Zerocoin is released. Furthermore, they obviously no longer have a stake in libzerocoin, as they started from scratch to design a new system that they believe is better. I disagree with that belief since there is apparently no way to generate the parameters in a trustless manner, so I am building on their original system.Also, it is not a trivial matter to add RSA UFO support (which I have completed a couple days ago), and integrate it into a working crypto-currency (which I am now working on). This is why no other coins have added Zerocoin, AFAIK. ANC:AU4hFCFZLhB2gTyG4VbaEurXGrTMNW2nu6 | BTC: 14QnfqVG3CqLGBYHgD8tPYJVLxQ2AfvPEx | GPG: E6D0 96DE 5B3E 16C7 C57F DC3B 654D BB7A D847 993A

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Full MemberActivity: 126Merit: 100Lean into the curves. Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) September 16, 2014, 12:00:09 AM #2592 Quote from: btcseller2b on September 15, 2014, 07:12:07 PM



1) People are pinning all their hopes on one person's work. What kind of track record does that person have? What have they actually produced?



2) Many other individuals, and groups are working on anonymous coins. It is very safe to say that many of those people are more experienced with altcoins and cryptography than gnosis.



3) It is silly for such a fuss about others stealing zerocoin from anc when anc took it, nearly complete, from others with no negotiation nor respect.



Quote from: Gnosis- on February 12, 2014, 06:06:33 PM

Hello all, I am Gnosis, the new member of the Anoncoin team; I will be implementing Zerocoin in Anoncoin.



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We are very grateful for the excellent work of the Zerocoin people in developing the original Zerocoin, however they have apparently chosen to ignore our communications, for unknown reasons. Fortunately, I have the knowledge needed to implement this without their help.



Hello all, I am Gnosis, the new member of the Anoncoin team; I will be implementing Zerocoin in Anoncoin....We are very grateful for the excellent work of the Zerocoin people in developing the original Zerocoin, however they have apparently chosen to ignore our communications, for unknown reasons. Fortunately, I have the knowledge needed to implement this without their help.

4) Also what happened to the idea of copyleft and similar supposed values? Anc basically has an undelivered algo, by an unknown developer, which will be ready at an unknown date, and people are pretending it is some prize that must be protected?



Of course if it turns out to be a useful product people will copy it, just as anc has copied extensively from others. That is not the problem. Rather the problem is that anc seems to have little other than this long awaited zerocoin. Is there something else that anc has? There are good pirates and there are bad pirates.

Some things to think about1) People are pinning all their hopes on one person's work. What kind of track record does that person have? What have they actually produced?2) Many other individuals, and groups are working on anonymous coins. It is very safe to say that many of those people are more experienced with altcoins and cryptography than gnosis.3) It is silly for such a fuss about others stealing zerocoin from anc when anc took it, nearly complete, from others with no negotiation nor respect.4) Also what happened to the idea of copyleft and similar supposed values? Anc basically has an undelivered algo, by an unknown developer, which will be ready at an unknown date, and people are pretending it is some prize that must be protected?Of course if it turns out to be a useful product people will copy it, just as anc has copied extensively from others. That is not the problem. Rather the problem is that anc seems to have little other than this long awaited zerocoin. Is there something else that anc has? There are good pirates and there are bad pirates.

LMAO! What's the matter? Are you holding a bag full of pretenders?



Thanks for demonstrating the fact that ANC is on the verge by creating a new account in order try to push ANC down.



I suggest you dump all your DRK now and get into ANC while you still can.



Or you can hope that we do not prevail upon the devs to hold the source just long enough to keep wannabes

from stealing it before ANC is on the main net.



Do you feel something great about to happen? LMAO! What's the matter? Are you holding a bag full of pretenders?Thanks for demonstrating the fact that ANC is on the verge by creating a new account in order try to push ANC down.I suggest you dump all your DRK now and get into ANC while you still can.Or you can hope that we do not prevail upon the devs to hold the source just long enough to keep wannabesfrom stealing it before ANC is on the main net.Do you feel something great about to happen? Anoncoin