DICKERSON: How do you learn that skill? Who do you call to say, “What's it like to —

TRUMP: There's nobody you can call.

DICKERSON: Did President Obama give you any advice that was helpful? That you think, wow, he really was —

TRUMP: Well, he was very nice to me. But after that, we've had some difficulties. So it doesn't matter. You know, words are less important to me than deeds. And you — you saw what happened with surveillance. And everybody saw what happened with surveillance —

DICKERSON: Difficulties how?

TRUMP: And I thought that — well, you saw what happened with surveillance. And I think that was inappropriate, but that's the way —

DICKERSON: What does that mean, sir?

TRUMP: You can figure that out yourself.