daedalus: daedalus: But if you go in that mindset, you could esily make the argument that Widow is the counter to everyone who she can shot.

I mean she is. Going slightly off-topic, but as problematic as I think Tracer is, Widowmaker is FAR worse and does far more to restrict the meta due to how few heroes can actually interact with her.

A Hitscan Sniper rifle will eventually render other weapons irrelevant if it isn’t properly kept in check by the weapons drawbacks, like a poor hipfire and enclosed maps, and very few maps are enclosed enough for a Widow to be really weak.

daedalus: daedalus: Or even McCree’s FTH.

FTH is a short range ability on a low mobility hero. It only counters other low mobility heroes without a defensive tool.

daedalus: daedalus: Tracer already had Counters (provided players were skilled enough to actually counter her).

If you can have a favourable matchup against a hero who supposedly counters you, then it’s not a counter. It’s a skill matchup.

Brig was the first real counter BECAUSE of how easy her kit was to use against Tracer. McCree could hardly be considered a counter when if Tracer baits his flashbang, his lack of mobility and large hitbox allows her to shred him easily. Whereas if Brig misses her stun (which is still very possible), then her shield and passive (if she lands a LMB or Whip Shot) allows her to wait Tracer out until it’s up again.

daedalus: daedalus: That’s part of the reason why im so inclined to believe that Brig wasn’t solefully built to counter Tracer. I just think that she countered too many heroes when she was released.

And like I said, before, any hero designed to counter Tracer is going to get a LOT of friendly fire because of the nature of her kit.

You shut down her abilities with Sombra, and you can also shut down Rein, Dva or Lucio’s abilities.

You can hook her as Roadhog, but it’s far easier (and just as lethal) to land a hook on any hero with less mobility.

You can FB her as McCree, but it’s far easier to flashbang combo literally any other hero in the game.

Tracer isn’t the only hero who relies on her mobility, so countering that aspect of her kit through things like Stuns is going to affect other heroes. Tracer also isn’t the only hero who has a weapon which deals damage through a large amount of small instances of damage, so making an armour based character hurts Tracer, but also affects other heroes with small instances of damage, like Winston and Dva.