Paul Thomas Anderson was getting ready to make The Master and he called me and we met. And we talked and we ended up meeting for coffee. We didn’t talk about The Master but I met him to chat. And then he kept calling me and he wanted to talk and talk but I didn’t know what he wanted to talk about because we’d always just kind of bullshitted on the phone. So then when he started talking about the role he said ‘Do you feel like you can do this?’ And I said ‘Yeah, totally. Look, I think you’re like the best American director. I feel confident. I know I can do this.’ And he said to me ‘But I want this to scare you. I want this role, going on this journey to scare you.’ And I was like ‘Scare?! I know I can do it.'

then when I saw Joaquin in that movie I realized ‘Oh, he wanted me to like lose my mind.’ And so I guess that’s just to say I usually don’t get scared of roles.

James Franco is ever-present enough, andis weird enough, that I might somehow be able to convince you that he really did play Freddie Quell inmaybe in a flashback scene or interrogation scene, in a quick flash that went unnoticed. But, in fact, Joaquin Phoenix played the part-- brilliantly, actually-- but at the same time, James Franco apparently was close to being in that role instead.Talking at an Austin Film Festival panel discussion (via Entertainment Weekly ), Franco revealed that he met with Paul Thomas Anderson to talk about the role of the mercurial, deeply troubled war veteran Freddie Quell-- but, if you listen to Franco's version of the story, he wasconfident that he could nail the part:By then the audience had burst out laughing, and Franco acknowledged "Needless to say I didn’t get the part." But he did seeand though he's not quite humble enough to acknowledge that he wasn't up to the challenge, he did recognize that what Joaquin Phoenix brought to the role was a step or two further:So now you're going to have the image of James Franco getting "processed" by Philip Seymour Hoffman in your brain, forever. And as much as I really do like Franco when given the right role, I can'thim starring in, especially given how incredible a performance Phoenix wound up giving. Franco clearly wasn't willing to tear himself apart to nail a role like that-- and lucky for us, Phoenix wound up taking on the challenge instead.