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"'Explosive' Sibel Edmonds Cover Story at 'The American Conservative' to Hit Tuesday"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Bill Bergman said on 9/18/2009 @ 5:38 am PT...





Thanks, Brad. Don't see it there yet, but looking forward to it.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Tunga said on 9/18/2009 @ 8:03 am PT...





It's not enough to make Nanny Pelosi cry? Don't you guys see how exposing treason committed by US government employees is liable to incite violence among the people that find out about it? If the perpetrators are held accountable for their treason and put to death as they rightfully should be then this website and everyone who ever visited or commented on it will be responsible! Cheers!

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... Suzan said on 9/18/2009 @ 8:42 am PT...





But they are the "liberal media." As we all know. My guess is that this is a scam to dismiss the importance of what she was testifying about as they earnestly bury it with some slight coverage. So hopefully that means the "liberal media" will now pay attention! I've covered this at my blog and think it's just one slimy tentacle of what has really been running the US Government since Raygun stole the election from Carter. S

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 9/18/2009 @ 10:42 am PT...





if the perpetrators are held accountable for their treason and put to death as they rightfully should be then this website and everyone who ever visited or commented on it will be responsible! Respectfully, I believe your wrong, the responsibility is in not breaking your oath of office in the first place, as such activity is a personal choice. Fellow citizen/employees (with sworn oaths) actually have a responsibility to turn you in when you do break your oath.

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/18/2009 @ 12:16 pm PT...





I think he was being ironical there, Phil.

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... Jon Gold said on 9/18/2009 @ 6:38 pm PT...





Brad... thank you always for your Sibel coverage... one comment... "taking bribes, being blackmailed, and enabling the theft and sale of U.S. nuclear secrets" In your write-ups, do you think you could include that elements within the U.S. Government had "intimate relations" with Osama Bin Laden up until 9/11? I think that's an EXTREMELY important point... Thanks again.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... sibeledmonds said on 9/18/2009 @ 6:56 pm PT...





Brad, Greatly appreciated. Jon: that's a good point. I did discuss that issue and the ACM included it.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Adam Fulford said on 9/18/2009 @ 8:15 pm PT...





Typo Alert: "'Whose' Afraid of Sibel Edmonds?"

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Tunga said on 9/18/2009 @ 8:40 pm PT...



COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Tunga said on 9/18/2009 @ 9:26 pm PT...





Interuptus of all Hallows eve upon the Clan Bin Ladin at the Middle Eastern Cafe in Cambridge Mass. 1976. Osama about to graduate from Harvard as Daddy comes to offer support for the coming Jihad. No, of course 'it never happened' as Dick Clark would have to say. and the Tunga almost crossed the gauntlet. but his friends occulted the source from their hearts. Just as well then. The quickening is hastened as a result. Holding onto my hat. U?

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Jake Starling said on 9/19/2009 @ 12:25 am PT...





Now we know why Pelosi insisted that impeachment not be on the "table." As Jim Garrison (JFK Movie)once said: "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Cosimo diRondo said on 9/19/2009 @ 5:28 am PT...





I always suspected each party had the goods on the other (outside of the outright collusion that must go on to some degree), and this insured a measure of back-covering. I'm sure Hot Karl had to know about all of this also, in reinforcement of Jake Starling's comment above. It's all so terribly sad that I and so many others have zero confidence in our government, and are quick to believe that they would commit almost any crime, cover-up or sell-out, no matter how heinous, in pursuit of their prime directive of maintaining power, rather than of representing the interests of their (American) constituents. I'm deeply disappointed in the likes of Waxman and Leahy, who know about all this and are doing nothing. I can't help but picture them carefully calculating the political fallout (or perhaps their personal safety), rather than in carrying out their sworn oath to defend the Constitution. When so many politicians seem to be so hung up on protecting their personal legacy, I find it ironic that they, being the ones with the power, stand by and let foot soldiers like Sibel shoulder the responsibility of shining light on such major abuses. Thank you Sibel, and thank you Brad. I don't know much about the American Conservative - its circulation and sphere of influence - but I sincerely hope their story starts to make a dent in the consciousness of the MSM and the public.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Arkinsaw said on 9/19/2009 @ 5:51 am PT...





Brad, Have to seen this news: EXCLUSIVE: THE WASHINGTON TIMES September 18, 2009 "Washington Times" --- The announcement Thursday that the Obama administration is canceling missile defense deployments in Europe may be part of a trade that includes sending other missiles to Turkey.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Edward Rynearson said on 9/19/2009 @ 7:14 am PT...





August 19, 2009 – Peter B Collins Radio Podcast Philip Giraldi, former CIA and DIA officer, on US/Israel relations, AIPAC, wiretapping and Rep. Jane Harman. This is the third installment of Boiling Frogs interviews co-hosted with Sibel Edmonds, and is quite explosive. Radio Du Jour (voices from the truthland)

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... naschkatze said on 9/19/2009 @ 9:11 am PT...





It is interesting that on national security issues we progressives and some conservatives can find common interest. Although I don't share many of their causes, I still keep the AbleDanger blog up on my page because of the Able Danger issue itself and 9/11, in particular Peter Lance's investigation on the government's failure to detect, follow, and deal with national security threats.

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Ross Levin said on 9/19/2009 @ 10:31 am PT...





Is this related to the Krikorian court case?

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... Styve said on 9/19/2009 @ 12:30 pm PT...





When is the article going to be available online? All I am seeing is a summary and a headline...am I looking in the wrong places?

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 9/19/2009 @ 2:12 pm PT...





The fact that Pat Buchanan started the "American Conservative" magazine has me worried. That means this story can be written off as an opinion or they're going to focus only on the Democrats involved. After so many years of people testifying without being under oath, I fear people in America won't notice the story disappearing without a trace. That would be a tragedy, considering Sibel WAS under oath and allowed BY THE DEMOCRATS to testify for the first time. To recap: this is NOT opinion, it IS news!

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 9/19/2009 @ 2:34 pm PT...





The sheer complexity of this story almost guaranties no coverage. As usual, I hope Bill Moyers and PBS is paying attention and will give it the in depth, yet understandable treatment it deserves. Previous specials such as "Buying The War", "Capitol Crimes" and "Cheney's Law" were what public television is all about. Too bad almost nobody seems to have seen those shows.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/19/2009 @ 3:01 pm PT...





Ross Levin @ 16 asked: Is this related to the Krikorian court case? Yes. In that her recent under oath deposition --- where the Obama DoJ, unlike the Bush DoJ, chose NOT to invoke the so-called "state secrets privilege" --- was given in the Ohio Election Commission case of Schmidt v. Krikorian. Her full 8/8/09 sworn deposition in that case --- both transcript and video --- was posted here several weeks ago, and we've been following that case very closely since Edmonds' deposition was first subpoenaed for it in early August.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/19/2009 @ 3:03 pm PT...





Styve @ 17: As I noted in my update to the original article above, the article currently available to subscribers only (of AmCon mag), and should be made available to all, online and on news stands, by Tuesday. We will, of course, let you all know here when it can be read online by all.

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... SiliconDoc said on 9/19/2009 @ 4:05 pm PT...





I think comment #12 is too widely drawn. You people that have worked in a bueaucracy or in the government know that there's only so many hours in the day, and only so much you can know (not much), yet we expect all the government officials to know about all the corruption (that is hidden by the criminals), but they probably find it hard enough to get to their meetings and boss around their 108 assistants.

People generally turn the other way and turn away from wrong doing and flee it and pretend it isn't happening, and generally don't want to hear about it as it spoils their own smooth sailing and is often considered gossip or rumors.

Think about Blagogevich for instance - for 3 years the FEDS had wiretaps going, and Fitzgerald, although he made a big deal press conference, still didn't have the goods to nail Blago - after 3 YEARS of (probably not so secret) wiretaps.

We heard the tape of Blago saying he wasn't giving it away for free, but we all know every big power position that is appointed like that is a wheel and deal playa thing, and they all do that all the time, and the whole rest of the Illinois state politicians IMMEDIATELY started jockeying and scrambling to get the position, even trying to remove Blago's powr by some fiat legislation.

The problem is the actual law is already so lax that they can make deals and there is no way to criminally prosecute and win, since the laws say if there is not a specific quid pro quo verbatim deal made, you can't get 'em, and it's just the appearance of impropriety.

Remember they make the laws, and make all the loopholes all of them should ever need, and it's only when some go far beyond the legalized crime into the blatant and open disregard that they get pinched.

So there's a general mindset that "this just couldn't be happening" (Sibel Edmonds points are so shocking people think it's garbage'), then there's the "sting" plots of counterintelligence and state department's "good relations desired" used as excuses for covering up or not getting into it, and then of course "it could destroy good people's lives!" (much like the 12,000 DC bugshots phone list for the DC madame - they kept jidden away and stricken from the public record because "it couyld destroy good people's lives" and "someone might have dialed the wrong number- roflmao).

It doesn't matter to so many people anymore, because what is ethical is considered either far right religious fanaticism if you stick to it, or terrible left wing liberalism if you stick to the other side of ethical.

Most people pulling stuff are probably aware it's shady or would be if someone pointed out why, but when the law says they can as long as they don't verbatim outline it to the letter and shake on it or put it in writing - they likely do it happily because their personal benefit is great, the law says they can, and "that's how it works", and 14 other people and 3 lawyers were handling their paparwork on it so they had no idea, etc, etc.

One of the big problems in government is people are afraid to stqand up to corruption because "it's in their department" and they have been trained and told "that reflects badly on them".

So we get loads of government employees and administrators and bosses who keep their heads down and don't stir the pot, because they would be "evaluated for failure" if they discover corruption under them, and try to put an end to it. The reason for that is our massively lunatic society and after all it's just people in government...and their just kookballs under kookballs, too.

Sibel Edmonds boss probably panicked with fear when she brought it up, oh golly was he going to get reamed and demoted and be under suspicion of being a participant, and with our like I said insane "gut feeling" "cop sense" freak society where facts are secondary to how someone looks, talks or acts or twitches, they all know the Salem Witch Trials start the minute anyone points out any corruption.

Look what Sibel has gone through. She's no hero, the answer for everyone is "this can't be happening !"

It's an X file.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... camusrebel said on 9/19/2009 @ 4:27 pm PT...





Correct me if I'm wrong but the deposition she gave in Washington was not the actual court case but some pre-trial findings type activity and she is supposed to testify in the actual trial in Ohio in early October. Many thanks to you Brad for providing the video of the DC event. Many commenters on many different blogs have mentioned the difficulty in their busy lives of sitting through her entire testimony. Those of a 9/11 bent may want to check out the compilation videos at 9/11blogger where just the parts that in any way relate to it are collected. I hope (and assume) they got whatever permission needed to make such a highlight tape, I do know they credited you, B, for the original. Arkinsaw #13...Sibels blog: 123realchange.blogspot, has a great piece about our recent missile sale to Turkey and many commenters seem exteremely well informed on all the geo politics of the subject. I do think it has to be related to our change of plans in Poland and the Chezch republic.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/19/2009 @ 4:45 pm PT...





SiliconDoc @ 22: Sorry. Calling bullshit on ya. Again. You wrote, in your general apologist comment for corruption and lawbreaking: It doesn't matter to so many people anymore, because what is ethical is considered either far right religious fanaticism if you stick to it, or terrible left wing liberalism if you stick to the other side of ethical. Bullshit. The "far right religious fanatic[s]" were in control of DoJ for the last 8 years, and they did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when it came to the Rule of Law, unless they could find Dems breaking it (and when they couldn't, pin some bullshit on 'em, see Siegelman, et al). You then further the bullshit with your allegation of "terrible left wing liberalism if you stick to the other side of ethical." It was the left wing (Liberal or otherwise), who have been calling for accountability, the Rule of Law, and defense of the U.S. Constitution for the last eight years, while you and your folks were making excuses for the most unprecedented law-breaking, criminality, and Constitution-shredding in the history of this nation. Take your despicable, partisan, apologist screeds and subtle, yet invidious deviseness over to the Fox Nation, Silicon. Nobody here is buying that garbage, no matter how much you keep attempting to sell it. (And, again, I ask you, if you must comment here, PLEASE hit ENTER twice between paragraphs to add a blank line, to make your comments easier to read! Thank you.)

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/19/2009 @ 4:51 pm PT...





CamusRebel said: Correct me if I'm wrong but the deposition she gave in Washington was not the actual court case but some pre-trial findings type activity and she is supposed to testify in the actual trial in Ohio in early October. Her 8/8/09 under-oath deposition in D.C. was in advance of the Ohio Election Commission trial/hearing on Sept. 3rd. She was called as a witness, but was out of the country, and despite Krikorian (defendant)'s request to extend the hearing to Sep. 5th, so she could testing, the OEC refused. The 'high drama' 9/3/09 hearing ran long, and had to be continued until Oct. 1, which means that Sibel will likely be able to testify in person then, if she is called. She has said she is willing, and Krikorian had previously said he wants her to do so. So hopefully that will happen. Hope that clarifies.

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... globalpol said on 9/20/2009 @ 12:39 am PT...





Imagine. Imagine that the US, in a bold stroke, maybe (certainly) even cynically, 'take the high road', and suddenly 'comes clean' on all of its deep political actions, exposing, charging, and incarcerating to the letter of the law. Even cooperating with foreign governments who are doing the same. Just imagine the good will that would be generated that would allow the US to regain the moral leadership role that it only currently holds in tatters and shreds. Obama and any other deep political strategists, consider airing all American dirty laundry in one fell swoop. Obama you go down in history as the man who cleaned up. You deep political players get to enjoy the benefits of a newly untarnished US to plunder and corrupt. The rest of us get the semblance of justice, better than any reality tv. Seriously, the rule of law is the ultimate glue of social cohesion. At the end of the day, smoke and mirrors will not serve to fool the masses. Keep adhering to the rule of law, ironically it will benefit you and America, and maybe you might even begin to see the moral benefit.

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... BUDDAH said on 9/20/2009 @ 1:40 am PT...





THE ROOF SHOULD BE BLOWN OFF THE COUNTRY OVER THE LIES OF THE PAST 8 YEARS 911 IS A TOTAL INSIDE JOB!! SEE THE TRAIL OF DECEIT BY BUSHES CHANEY AND THE WHOLE LOT OF CROOKS POSING AS US PIN WEARING FLAG WAVING SHYSTERS THAT THEY ARE. OBAMA BETTER INVESTIGATE OR GO DOWN WITH THE TRASH THESE NEOCON ISRAELI TURKISH AND SAUDI THUGS THAT SOLD THIS COUNTRY OUT!! 911 INVESTIGATE NOW!! WE ARE WAY PAST THE RUBICON!! HANG THEM ALL LIKE THEY HUNG SADAM WOULDN'T THAT MAKE FOR CLEANING HOUSE OF THE CORRUPTION SINCE THE FED CAME INTO CONTROL KILL'EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEACE!! THE BUDDAH

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... Hermster said on 9/20/2009 @ 4:24 am PT...





Oh Happy day!!!! Ever since the very first time I heard about Sibel, I dreamed this day would come. Who cares about the MSM in this country? Let the world know first.

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 9/20/2009 @ 5:22 am PT...





CNN covered this...and then had an advertisement admonishing FOX "news" for not covering it!!! ...and I just saw a pig fly by my window.......CNN only REACTS to FOX "news"..........

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/20/2009 @ 5:35 am PT...





Those directing news organizations not to cover actual news stories about treason are themselves accessories to treason - obstructing justice. Media ownership study ordered destroyed

Sept 14, 2006 'Every last piece' destroyed Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that "every last piece" of the report be destroyed. "The whole project was just stopped - end of discussion," he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC's Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/ "You can't tell any more the difference between what's propaganda and what's news." FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein

15 August, 2006 We the People need our own airwaves returned to our control. Dedicate three free channels to political debate and make it illegal to donate to candidates. We don't need to facilitate political advertising. Fuck the media oligopoly.

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/20/2009 @ 5:39 am PT...





I found it quite interesting that the mainstream media all dutifully reported (without question) that Bin Laden had released yet another audio screed last week - considering that he's been dead for several years. They all know the truth. It's their job to lie to you.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/20/2009 @ 5:53 am PT...





Connect all the dots http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/3820

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... karen from illinois said on 9/20/2009 @ 12:47 pm PT...





from plungers diarys "On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: “According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.” plunger,i haven't worked my way thru your entire post but if you haven't included it...china entered the wto the same week as 9-11

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... MsKitty said on 9/20/2009 @ 6:55 pm PT...





Not a peep about this on Drudge.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... william said on 9/20/2009 @ 8:02 pm PT...





my hobbies are history and social sciences, with this knowledge back ground, i have come to the only action left for us the american citizen or as it should be citizens of the states. is eather a revolution OR FOR THE STATES THE GOVERNERS, STATE ASSEMBLIES TO GET TOGETHER AND REGAIN CONTROL OVER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, PROSECUTE ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEE'S WITH KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THE TREASON ABUSES, PRESIDENT,CONGRESS, SENATE, ECT.

TAKE BACK APOINTMENT OF SENATERS AS IN THE CONSTITUTION. REVIEW ALL LAWS PASSED FOR ORIGINAL CONTITUTIONAL MEANINGS. IF NOT ANNULL THEM.

its this or we lose all. its up to the states to control all this. or as in the french revolution.

i truly believe after seeing the past twenty years of power collecting by the federal government.

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... william said on 9/20/2009 @ 8:23 pm PT...





as above i forgot to add THAT THE ONLY REAL POWER THE CITIZENS HAVE OVER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THRU THIER STATE GOVERMENTS. ITS THE ONLY WAY.

WE ALL NEED TO START TELLING OUR STATES TO REASERT THE CONSTITUTION.

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 9/20/2009 @ 11:13 pm PT...





karen from illinois: Or anyone interested in the 2.3 Trillion missing dollars might want to read a post I did on it which pretty much covers the incident and is well sourced. It includes some very maddening denials by democrats. My post: "2.3 Trillion Dollar Toilet Seats", sometimes shows up in the top ten on Google and other search engines by typing "2.3 trillion", and still does if dollar is added.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/21/2009 @ 2:37 am PT...





I'm told the missing DOD money was not actually $2.3 trillion, it was $7 trillion. I understand it was offshored to Israel to fund the U.S. coup and implement the Rockefeller/Rothschild/Crown agenda. Once they figured out how to fund the Shadow Government off the books, Congress became irrelevant. Of course Israel double-crossed their 9/11 co-conspirators and is blackmailing the GHW Bush contingent - which explains why the US stood silently by as Israel pillaged Lebanon and why the US is powerless to stop Israel from taking out Iran. The only way for the US to regain any true power or moral authority is for those with knowledge to turn on those at the top and reveal the evidence of the coup. Only when the truth is fully revealed does the threat of blackmail disappear. Dov Zakheim was the facilitator inside the DOD.

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]

... Konstantin said on 9/21/2009 @ 6:02 am PT...





Ann Curry said she will look into this so hopefully NBC News will cover it.

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]

... Neylan said on 9/23/2009 @ 1:13 am PT...



COMMENT #41 [Permalink]

... Earth said on 10/8/2009 @ 6:10 am PT...

