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Marveling at myHero MemberPosts: 537McKinney, TX Re: Issue with latest oil filters from K&N « Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 07:53:32 PM »



Keep us updated! Thanks for the heads up.... I have a K&N on now that worked well (threading up) but I'd like to know where I need to go after this.Keep us updated! Logged Dennis



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Visual differences of incorrect filter:

Marked "Made in Thailand".

Slightly taller, and closed end a bit flatter.

8 input holes, with a red anti-drainback valve.

Gasket a bit narrower with rounded corners.















KEY INCORRECT FEATURE

Threaded center hole is 7.2mm from gasket surface, as opposed to 3.2mm.

Fairly obvious difference as shown in the pic below.



Result is only about 1/2 turn of thread engagement prior to the gasket contacting the case.

Adding the K&N spec of 3/4 to 1 turn beyond gasket contact, results in a max of 1 1/2 turns total of thread engagement.

Not enough.



Previous good filter gets 2 1/2 turns prior to the thread contacting the case.

Then the spec of 3/4 to 1 turn, so max of 3 1/2 turns thread engagement.

End result is *all* threads on the filter are engaged with the threads on the fitting.









Samples of both have been handed to the K&N Customer Service Manager, and the issue described to him in detail.

Along with the fact that these filters are used on nearly every Ducati on the road today, from the Pantah in 1980 up to present day, only excluding the Panigale.



He said he'd follow up with me. Incorrect oil filter on the left, correct filter on the right.Visual differences of incorrect filter:Marked "Made in Thailand".Slightly taller, and closed end a bit flatter.8 input holes, with a red anti-drainback valve.Gasket a bit narrower with rounded corners.Samples of both have been handed to the K&N Customer Service Manager, and the issue described to him in detail.Along with the fact that these filters are used on nearly every Ducati on the road today, from the Pantah in 1980 up to present day, only excluding the Panigale.He said he'd follow up with me. Logged - - - - - Valley Desmo Service - - - - -

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Post WhorePosts: 14307 Re: Issue with latest oil filters from K&N « Reply #6 on: April 28, 2016, 03:41:58 PM »

Imagine a filter falling off at speed.

What a disaster for K&N's reputation. Who was the dumbass bean counter that organized that deal? Good work.Imagine a filter falling off at speed.What a disaster for K&N's reputation. Who was the dumbass bean counter that organized that deal? Logged 1999 M750. "Scrambler"

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Hero MemberPosts: 8847 Re: Issue with latest oil filters from K&N « Reply #7 on: April 28, 2016, 03:43:14 PM » Nice write up.



Off topic slightly, why does the Panigale use a different filter? Just curious... Logged 2005 S2R800

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The Often HatedFlounder-AdministratorPost WhorePosts: 74025DILLIGAF Re: Issue with latest oil filters from K&N « Reply #9 on: April 28, 2016, 03:52:34 PM » Quote from: DarkMonster620 on April 28, 2016, 03:49:54 PM it is a cartridge style . . .

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