In my efforts to relate to a variety of people I come across a host of interesting beliefs by a wide spectrum of individuals.. No one ever agrees 100% with one another, and if they pretend to, I personally feel someone isn't being completely honest. No two people ever see all things in life exactly the same way.

Each comes with his or her own unique experiences including learned concepts and view of the world in which they live including those parts they don't exist in or see firsthand. This would involve a world view, which we hear relatively speaking, very little about especially from the news media.

This particular comment was on a reddit thread where the person did not like the terms used in my title. In my defense the country of Sweden considers themselves socialists and left leaning. I felt it was a case of, "don't shoot the messenger!"

Clearly the commenter felt that the ideology doesn't stand for what he or she believes in. I feel that does not change the fact of what Sweden and other countries call themselves.

Following you will find the commenters response, then mine.

When sorting through issues of this nature it encompasses a great deal.

Here is the article being referenced which I don't believe the commenter read by some of the comments because I had already dealt with some of them in this particular article. Clearly I cannot force someone to view the clips of the witness from Sweden or look at the links provided so I just attended to some of them again.

https://steemit.com/informationwar/@artistiquejewels/sweden-and-other-eu-countries-speak-out-on-assault-and-rapes-with-no-protection-from-their-leftist-governments-the-information

Commenter's statement,

"What "Leftist" governments?!"

My Response,

"Like Sweden and many of the EU countries who are for socialism and allowing these people to pour in unvetted while not being expected to follow the laws and keep the citizens safe. It is tied to a globalist agenda and left leaning socialism has duped people into thinking they are trying to help them and they are for the people, but the contrary is true. . .they are pushing for chaos so they can come in with UN control as a one world government."

Commenter came back with,

"Like Sweden and many of the EU countries who are for socialism

...and that's where I quit reading."

Now I could have just left it as it would take a lot of time to deal with, but did the Creator say only do your part if it doesn't involve a commitment of time? Clearly no, time is a commodity and each person worth the investment.

Also I always feel that Q has stated, it will be their decision to know. This does not let me off the hook of trying to explain things the Creator has shown me. I know the info wasn't just for my personal use. It doesn't do anyone any good if I just keep it to myself. It is also not up to me whether they will consider another point of view or "broaden their horizons," if they don't want them broadened. They have every right to stick with their own mindset. I still bear the responsibility of showing what is out there.

Here is my response,

"I was not trying to offend or be rude. As a matter of fact that is why I wrote this article. It started with someone from Australia (I didn't realize she was from there when she started talking to me) on facebook who didn't like me calling them leftists or progressive.

I minored in Government in school and they are listed even today as socialists and they state they have elected a left leaning leader.

They have been telling those in the European Union that socialism is good and have encouraged what the young girl in the video clip is crying out about.

The EU is closely tied to the UN and I have done a great deal of research on the UN and they only put up a show of helping, they want and have been clear that they want one world government.

I found out that Australia sees their conservative groups as those for the catholic church there. They have some of the high officials who are pedophiles, so they do not like that party. I told her it is switched in my country although our party system in many cases is just used to divide.

I looked again and all the information on the Sweden government states they are for socialism and the UN appears to be encouraging that construct.

I do not live there, but I have friends who have told me it is exactly how the girl is describing. One of my friends tried for many years to help these girls and the police targeted him instead of the criminals. It got to where they were banning him and threatening imprisonment if he kept speaking out against what the pedophiles in government and those who flooded into the country were doing.

This is already happening in the UK and they are part of the EU. Tommy Robinson was arrested and sent to prison where others like him are killed because he called out against the grooming gangs. These gangs are also comprised of a certain culture which I don't dare say on here. The UK and EU greatly protect these people and they know it. The story is inside the article. People in the UK including the press are not allowed to tell his true story or they will be sentenced. They have silenced people from speaking out against these crimes so they can continue their agenda. It is very dangerous and that is why I am trying to warn other people.

As I don't live there, if you know something about this I am willing to listen. I assure you, I just want to get to the bottom of this and with the commenter from Australia, I realized the terminology was basically opposite.

Once again sorry to offend, that is not my intention at all. I felt bad for this girl who talked about what she is forced to experience every day in school and the authorities won't do anything and parents are scared to say anything because their other children will be targeted."

I figured he/she would be done as all of this is pretty involved and most don't want to sort out the details, but they came back with a response, so I appreciate that whether we are on completely opposing sides or not. We all need to be able to open up a dialogue and attempt to sort out the nitty gritty.

Commenter,

"I don't even know where to start... this is going to take a while.

I was not trying to offend or be rude.

Fair enough, I'll take this as a polite conversation and assume that any negative tone is unintentional. Please extend the same courtesy to me.

It started with someone from Australia (I didn't realize she was from there when she started talking to me) on facebook who didn't like me calling them leftists or progressive.

I think that it's because you've got the terms mixed up a little; I AM a leftist, and I don't agree with most people who are called "leftists" on much of anything.

They tend to want to use the state to force people to do things; I think that that is a right-wing, conservative approach to thinking about things in the first place, before we even get started talking about specific policies.

I minored in Government in school and they are listed even today as socialists and they state they have elected a left leaning leader.

According to whom? Sweden embraced hard right-wing policies 30 years ago; granted, from their starting point, it is taking longer for some of their institutions to move rightward, but both their economy (extreme free trade) and educational systems (large charter movement, over which time they have dropped 20 places in educational ranking) are the polar opposite of "socialist."

Most of the rest of the big players in the EU - Germany, Italy, France, Hungary, Spain - have similarly moved far to the right.

Honestly, your idea of "Left" or "Socialist" seem to be informed more by media usage than by academic definitions.

They have been telling those in the European Union that socialism is good

They have been pushing Austerity Economics and Free Trade; this is what I am talking about when I say that you have the terms a little mixed up.

The EU is closely tied to the UN

O-K, they do have 2/3 of the 5 permanent seats on the Security Council, so...?

I have done a great deal of research on the UN and they only put up a show of helping, they want and have been clear that they want one world government.

And this came straight from the right-wing propaganda handbook.

The UN is basically the puppet of the United States; we pay for it and we threaten to leave it, which would put most of the people there out of a job and back to their own countries, so they largely vote the way we want them to.

I found out that Australia sees their conservative groups as those for the catholic church there. They have some of the high officials who are pedophiles, so they do not like that party.

Do you have any evidence to support the contention that their officials are pedophiles? That is a common accusation thrown around to discredit people, like the Pizzagate nonsense here in the US.

That the Catholic church and conservative parties are commonly associated in most countries, and that the Catholic church has been protecting pedophiles, does not mean that everyone involved is a pedophile; guilt by association is a fallacy.

I looked again and all the information on the Sweden government states they are for socialism and the UN appears to be encouraging that construct.

I just don't even know where to begin, here; Sweden is the foremost proponent of right-wing economic policy in the world, and guides UN policy particularly with regard to the International Monetary Fund and World Trade Commissions.

It got to where they were banning him and threatening imprisonment if he kept speaking out against what the pedophiles in government and those who flooded into the country were doing.

Do you have any legitimate source for this? Anecdotal evidence is always suspect, and this is an extraordinary claim.

Tommy Robinson

...was technically breaking the law, and represents such a far-right extremist group that even the moderate-right is appalled by him. Look what the UK is doing to Julian Assange; now he's a leftist!

They have silenced people from speaking out

Yea, the UK is bad about that; something about them not having a free press.... or any of a number of other civil liberties enjoyed by most modern, liberal countries.

if you know something about this I am willing to listen

I seem to have a much broader perspective than you do, is all, which should be embarrassing when you realize that you are talking to a backwoods redneck living in the mountains of Tennessee. Please take 5 minutes to read about Appalachia.

I felt bad for this girl who talked about what she is forced to experience every day in school and the authorities won't do anything and parents are scared to say anything because their other children will be targeted.

You have to take these things with a grain of salt; children can be coached and are often very good actors.

The alternative is to suggest, and I honestly hate this term, a conspiracy theory; the idea that hundreds of people in education, media and law enforcement are cooperating in order to protect horrible people.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," and it's just not there.

My Response,

Boy you were right, it does take an investment of time and I appreciate you being willing to discuss. Real conversations in an attempt to see the bigger picture is what we need all around the world.

I do get your point of not agreeing with most who are leftists. Possibly the mistake came where people think I am judging the good citizens, I am not. I am reporting on what the leaders or those in a position of power are doing. Once again, Sweden calls itself socialist and left leaning. Not my definition, but theirs. It is also not my fault many leftists have become radicalized.

No doubt they have told people or led them to believe they are for the people, the opposite is quite true.

Once again, I am not passing judgement on the name, but rather trying to spread truths as MSM does not tell people the truth about what is happening around the world because they want to instigate the same methodology here. The corrupt leaders (btw plenty of politicians who call themselves republican are corrupt also) are being bribed and funded by the new world order agenda of a one world government. These are simply facts. As the messenger of the real news, I am constantly the one shot down, but that does not let me off the hook of having to deliver the message.

Since you used this method, I hope you extend to me the same courtesy and allow me to use it without appearing rude or offensive (as that is not my intent).

You stated, “They tend to want to use the state to force people to do things; I think that that is a right-wing, conservative approach to thinking about things in the first place, before we even get started talking about specific policies.”

If you are meaning this the way I assume, that you are, for example you prefaced it with, “I AM a leftist, and I don't agree with most people who are called "leftists" on much of anything.” Then proceeded with the above statement, that is after all the crux of the problem then isn’t it?

In other words your view of leftist is in complete opposition as to what they are doing now, and you see what they are doing now (the leaders, those in control) now have what you thought to be a “right-wing, conservative approach to thinking about things. . .”

My first question is, are you really a leftist? I no longer consider myself a republican, but rather a libertarian. Are you perhaps an independent? I don’t say this flippantly, but realized for myself I didn’t meet up with all that the right wing party said they stood for, so possibly the same is true for you.

It appeared because initially you didn’t want to read the article because it spoke of Sweden and other countries as being socialists and leftists. My question is, how is it my fault that I am calling them by what they label themselves? It was not my idea to cause confusion, but rather those in positions of authorities to turn the Democratic Party upside down with a NWO agenda.

You are saying they are right wing and their programs are polar opposite, then why once again do they themselves say they are a socialist democracy? Why are others advocating from the right wing populist party no more immigration? That is a socialist ideal. You can see right here what they not only propose, but force whether people are in agreement or not. This was in the original article. https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb0_1447249820

You stated, “Sweden is the foremost proponent of right-wing economic policy in the world, and guides UN policy particularly with regard to the International Monetary Fund and World Trade Commissions.”

True people on the right, not corrupt politicians being bribed and having their pockets loaded by globalists, don’t trust UN policy, Monetary Fund nor the World Trade Commissions. They are all ruled by the controlling cabal and that is not right wing propaganda, that comes straight out of Socialist propaganda and one needs to look no further than Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. Saul Alinsky BTW is a hero of leftists like Obama and Hillary.

If you look at the history of the UN, and please I encourage everyone not to take my word for it, but to do their own research, the UN came from the League of Nations. A corrupt organization started by the Rothschild family trying to gain more control over as many countries as possible. It is a known fact when you start looking at true history, not just what is taught in the school system, but that which happened it is clear the Rothschild family funded both sides of the war effort in multiple wars. Here is an article with links. I have done reports in the past so finally sat down to do something on paper where they were not just my notes. https://steemit.com/illuminati/@artistiquejewels/story-of-the-rothschilds-their-history-and-connections

My article that I shared out about Sweden and socialism covered the fact that the commenter from Australia viewed the terms opposite and how that is intentional. The fact that the left was intended to be something different doesn’t change the end result that politicians are now so extreme many people who supported their original ideology have left the Democratic Party and the right has become more moderate. Does this encompass everyone. . .absolutely not and I have stated many times in articles and reports I wish to do away with the two party system as it is misleading.

BTW, it was conservatives that got rid of slavery, the democrats were for slavery. They simply lead people to believe it was the other side, i.e. the democratic leader's playbook states right out, whatever you are doing, blame it on the other side." As you can see they have taken this to heart. It was also Margaret Sanger who targeted the black population and encouraged abortions. She was a democrat. Even historically people blamed conservatives for what these people were doing. The problem is, many history books don't teach this do they? I can say that because I taught and their books Did Not include it. The media certainly won't tell you, it goes against the narrative they are allowed to sell.

What is not misleading is the fact that these leaders all across Europe, in the UK and even here in America are doing things that either some are not aware of, or many I would guess do not condone. For instance, I believe I mentioned in the article that Soros has crippled so many countries' economies like Venezuela, he has been kicked out. His societies go under the name of Open Society and you can find an article here https://truthinmedia.net/2018/04/19/george-soros-kicked-out-of-his-native-country/

You said Sweden embraced hard right wing policies 30 years ago. I don’t know anything about that because I have been shown through friends living there for so many years that they were for socialism, I realize I know nothing about their government decades ago, I am just dealing with what is currently going on. Sadly, right now what people think is true democracy in those countries and even here in the U.S. isn’t always representing the will of the people.

Here is an article attesting to the fact that the people are trying to be heard and citizens living there don’t like being forced into the will of corrupt leaders. Sadly, when you follow the trail, these corrupt leaders are mouthpieces for the UN. https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/10/the-death-of-the-most-generous-nation-on-earth-sweden-syria-refugee-europe/

One must never forget the UN still publishes materials from Alice Bailey’s construct of what was originally called the Lucifer Trust. They later changed the name to Lucis Trust. They also infiltrated many churches. All denominations and that is what makes it confusing for everyone. Not saying all churches are bad or filled with pedophiles. That does not negate the fact that they circulate around. Went to different churches for years myself as a child and teen and many had known pedophiles among them. How do I know, they were found out and taken to court, then generally received fairly light sentences. My dad knew firsthand who the pedophiles in town were as he was the chief of police and it was a fairly small town. He simply steered us away from them and didn’t let us go to their homes when invited.

I also taught in the public school system and saw the evidence with my own eyes. Had kids come to me and when trying to report what their fathers, stepfathers and mothers were not stopping, I was confronted by so much red tape and threatened 2 times with people breaking into my portable where I taught and destroying anecdotal evidence and stealing whatever was of value. Those kids would stay after school with me for as long as possible to not have to return to the abuse. Catholic Church goers. Not calling just catholic churches out as the churches I went to and saw evidence of abuse were Baptist (once again not all Baptists are bad nor of course do all do those things). Research shows these people are from all walks of life so once again not picking on anyone in particular.

Yes, I do have proof as I know the commenter from Australia is already aware of the ordeal long going on there. The Vatican has released a statement of support for Pell, citing his “honesty.”“Cardinal Pell is facing multiple charges in respect of historic sexual offences,” Victoria state police deputy commissioner Shane Patton told the media in Melbourne on Thursday. The extent of the charges the senior Vatican cardinal is facing has not been revealed by police.

However, according to Patton, “there are multiple complainants relating to those charges.”There might be up to 10 alleged victims, Australian news website News.com.au reports, adding that they were minors at the time of the alleged assaults and are now aged from their late 20s to their early 50s.The allegations are believed to stretch from the time that Pell was a priest in the Australian town of Ballarat to when he was Archbishop of Melbourne. It is alleged that the cardinal groomed boys at a swimming pool in Ballarat in the 1970s and committed sexual assaults at St Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne, according to The Australian.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-australian-archbishop-sex-abuse-20180521-story.html

These stories abound from everywhere. Philippines, right now investigations into churches in Chile, here is another article https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/pope-francis-puts-guam-archbishop-accused-sex-abuse-leave

I will be doing a report soon on problems in Chile. If you just do a search you will find many abuses in the Catholic Church. The commenter from Australia knew this and that is part of why they see the right in their country as the oppressors. Once again a huge advocate of getting one’s own eyes on the research. Everyone must go through their own journey when their reality or mindset appears to be threatened. No one else can convince you, if you are like me, you have to see the evidence yourself. Don’t trust others, be suspicious of everything, and seek it yourself. In this you have every right to question! Question absolutely Everything! But be willing to look at evidence that may go completely against your mindset! I myself had to do this. If you are a praying person I advise to do so with prayer. It shakes your entire world.

By the same token I do not nor do many other Patriots believe that all churches or people are doing this evil. All are not. Clearly good people still exist, in many cases among the general population who simply are not aware, but don’t like their mindset or would they believe to be reality threatened.

In the catholic church it starts with the cover-up at the administration level. The hierarchy. You have to ask yourself, who always taught the people they needed an intermediary between them and their Creator? Not biblical. We can talk to the Creator without confessing our sins to another human. This pedo problem comes from the top in the Catholic Church. Even then, I only know what is shown and wouldn’t dare say all officials or all in leadership are doing this. I hope not, but there have been some who are found out and I believe in looking at the sources and evidence rather than for myself, just turning a blind eye or deciding it is exaggerated. When you start researching, there is a great deal of evidence historically and currently that points to a widespread problem. Trying to shut people up about it is intentional.

In the same manner I believe not all leftists are following the corrupt one world gov. Ideology, people should realize not all conservatives or more right leaning people support the Catholic hierarchy of abuse. I am not catholic so do not like being lumped in. I also am not an advocate of the word Christian as it was not a name given by the Creator, but rather a societal construct. I understand it is how people try to describe, but Christians all have a wide spread system of beliefs so are not all the same.

At the same time, I know many good catholic people who do not stand for any of this corruption.

The whole two party issue is indeed quite divisive. I understand why people don’t like the terms being used and take offense. The problem is if we don’t talk about it and call these corrupt leaders out for who they are, they have the upper hand. Then people are just angry with one another and won’t take the time to discuss. This plays into the hands of those continuing their corruption, people either fear or don’t want to take the time to call it out, or deal with it. I do appreciate you being willing to discuss.

Once again, I am not passing judgement on the name, but rather trying to spread truths as MSM does not tell people the truth about what is happening around the world because they want to instigate the same methodology here. The corrupt leaders (btw plenty of politicians who call themselves republican are corrupt also) are being bribed and funded by the new world order agenda of a one world government. These are simply facts. As the messenger of the real news, I am constantly the one shot down, but that does not let me off the hook of having to deliver the message.

You said, “I seem to have a much broader perspective than you do, is all, which should be embarrassing when you realize that you are talking to a backwoods redneck living in the mountains of Tennessee. Please take 5 minutes to read about Appalachia."

I would wager if someone said this to you, you would be extremely offended and wouldn’t even read any further. I do often wonder for those who take offense at what I say about political leaders feel it’s okay for them to make statements to others they would not tolerate themselves.

You claim to have a broader perspective than I do, when you know nothing about me nor my experiences, (as I know nothing of your’s, but did not accuse you of that which you are accusing me).

You may have grown up in the mountains of Tennessee, which is a very beautiful place, but I too have experienced a way of life many know nothing about.

I could, take offense at the word backwoods, (I realize you were referencing yourself but it has connotations for me) as I was referred to as being from the backwoods and backwards on many occasions. Was always at the bottom of the totem pole, and to this day steer clear of people as many will do their best to elevate themselves while pushing others down. I keep to myself and keep my nose to the grindstone.

For example, my father grew up on a small self sustaining farm. When I visited my grandparents as a child, there still wasn’t indoor plumbing. My dad and his siblings appreciated the peach can wrappers as those were less tough when visiting the outhouse. They were saddened by the fact they ran out of yellow pages in old phone books because the shiny pages were not as good for dealing with those outhouse visits. They grew their own food, raised their own hogs and chickens, got up before the break of dawn and retired early evening so they could get up and do it again. My dad was literally working by age 2, no exaggeration as his many siblings still talk about it.

Growing up my parents didn’t have means and we all sacrificed so that my mother was the one taking care of us as my father had heard enough horror stories to not give us over into the care of others as there were stories everywhere of abusers. This meant we wore second hand everything except for gifts my mother made us when she could. Once my parents were wiping down the walls in a home we lived with water because once we finally got the old stove going for heat, it was hard to control the temp. and we were in danger of the walls catching on fire. We lived in some interesting places, but our parents provided food, shelter and did their best to keep us safe!

We lived extremely frugal and even as an adult I make our own soap many times, purchase much of our clothes from goodwill to the disdain of others, we use aldi’s and do without much of what most people have and live with. We do get to do some nice things and go out once in a while, so not saying we are destitute, but we do not have means like the corrupt elite politicians as we see Nancy Pelosi and others doing. It is truly sickening! People see the left as the party of the poor, but seem to not see many of them are just as and in some cases richer than their republican counterparts. They are not poor, even Bernie Sanders for all his criticism owns many houses and his last lakeshore mansion was around $600,000. These people don’t relate to us.

You may call yourself a redneck, but I was called all sorts of names for not having the same means, clothes, money for events, projects as others. I am not meaning to take offense at would you said, but it is an unfair statement for someone who has witnessed a great deal of abuse and seen first hand what some of these people calling themselves certain titles actually believe and do. I remember wanting a barbie house like all my other friends. Made one out of a cardboard box and colored it. At least my mom had cloth scraps for me to glue in curtains as she sewed for people to help make ends meet.

I have nothing against rednecks, always equated them with people of common sense just like my grandparents. I have read books with people talking about their upbringing in the Appalachian mountains and my family couldn’t get me to shut up about my admiration for their survival techniques and ingenuity.

You also stated, “You have to take these things with a grain of salt; children can be coached and are often very good actors.

The alternative is to suggest, and I honestly hate this term, a conspiracy theory; the idea that hundreds of people in education, media and law enforcement are cooperating in order to protect horrible people.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," and it's just not there.

I have been the witness to, and been there when children have been abused and people let these kids down, when they found out later there were many other victims. In some cases an adult saw it with their own eyes. Not to mention, concerning the clip of the groped teen from Sweden, she is not the only one. She is not a little girl getting the story twisted, not that all little girls shouldn’t be taken seriously, just saying that isn’t even an issue. She is fully aware of her faculties and has adults backing up her story. Even the naysayer admits to seeing abuse but acts like just a few times doesn’t matter. They are leftists (not saying you agree with them, that is what they call themselves).

If it is false why are there so many allegations and even indictments? For example you made reference to pizzagate in what appeared to be a mocking tone, or at least complete disbelief. I set out prior to the election to prove pizzagate wrong. Even asked the Creator to please show me how this was just an exaggeration and surely couldn’t be true. He showed me all right, but I had to put my pride of thinking I knew something aside and couldn’t deny the evidence.

I ended up doing what was expected and not keeping the information to myself as I am to help spread the truth. I have spent a year and a half now on reporting information even in the home state of where I grew up. It was far worse than I had ever imagined or from my own experiences. Of course you don’t have the time to see it all. God bless you if you can take the time to read just what I have written back to you.

I had to do my own research and look at actual documents, be discerning about who was giving facts. Ted Gunderson was FBI and he is a wealth of information. Dead now, as is William (Bill) Cooper. Listened to a lot of testimony and looked through a lot of dockets for court cases.

I didn’t just give any source, I poured through local newspapers and local news stations for verified arrests, witness statements and police reports.

I started realizing it wasn’t just here in the U.S., it wasn’t just pizzagate centered around a pizza owner who happens to be the 49th most influential person in D.C., whose ex-boyfriend was David Brock owner of Media Matters which controls much of the News Media. Whose Instagram before he and democrat google CEO’s tried to scrub filled with more than questionable photos and sexual innuendos concerning babies and children.

I found out about the lies he even told the news media. There are tunnels all over D.C. and he contradicted himself when he claimed there was no basement in one of his establishments to the media, but had talked about his basement to another source.

I started finding out from others across the globe that this is a worldwide issue. It is not just pizzagate, it is pedogate. If you go here, don’t watch my video, most who don’t believe in this despise me and are very critical. I’m not assuming or implying you will be, there is simply no need to watch it, you can find the story yourself and read the research. Just scroll down in the comments and look for EERLIJKE GEDACHTEN

He is from Holland and had his life threatened many times trying to expose these people. If you go to his channel they removed it as he kept saying they were threatening to do because they target the messengers and those trying to expose the protected criminals, mainly because they also involve the law enforcement and politicians. Same thing happens in our country whether people want to admit it or not.