Classic HC Sunder Build



I take no credit for the build and mostly learned from the top ladder sunder pushers. I personally started playing and practicing sunder during the HC Flashback Race event, where after a few deaths, got to lvl 98 placing rank 4 Slayer. Most recently, I was able to achieve getting level 100 Gladiator in HC Incursion rank 25. Basically, this build is a great league start and able to do almost all content! Keep in mind however that this guide is mostly directed at crushing maps.



Vids

Some quick vids did not bother to loot

Shaped UGS -

Shaped Belfry with some sextants -

Some quick vids did not bother to lootShaped UGS - https://youtu.be/38oGJNw3MrY Shaped Belfry with some sextants - https://youtu.be/ul-X_gLLa7w



Glad vs Slayer



SSF

Just go Glad unless you have haemophilias

Indepth

If you are playing SSF and truly want to push ladder, Glad is definitely the way to go unless you already have haemophilias. Slayer clear speed is simply garbage with no blood explosions compared to Glad. Also, getting the Uber lab ascendancy points will take quite some time depending on how lucky you are so most of the time you will be stuck with only Slayer's over leech and no culling while Gladiator comes online right after cruel lab.



Small thing that annoys me is the fact that the Slayer's small increased damage nodes are for 2h weapons only but really doesn't mean a whole lot.





Trade league

Glad

-more overall hp on gear

-no need for prismatic once you get 6L + insanity rolled gloves

-~50block & ~60+ spell block





Slayer

-Culling + Onslaught feels real good

-Near immortal once you start leeching (with proper play)





Indepth

In trade league I personally prefer Gladiator as well however Slayer is just as good. For Incursion league I feel like the spell block is very useful to not dying to those god damn ancient constructs that shoot their spell phys/chaos shit at you in Incursions/temples. The over leech from Slayer will keep you alive most of the time but there is always a chance that you just die before you can leech (getting sniped while just entering the Incursion) or die before you can leech enough hp back (pretty unlikely honestly but possible). To make up for that I would actually recommend grabbing Phase Acrobatics since you will not have any spell block as a Slayer.



Small thing that annoys me is the fact that the Slayer's small increased damage nodes are for 2h weapons only but really doesn't mean a whole lot.



Just go Glad unless you have haemophilias



Screenshot of Stats

Unbuffed:





Defense:







Gear options

Main hand axe

Pretty simple to start just rustic recipe(sell magic or higher rustic sash + whetstone + weapon to vendor) your way through the acts until you find a decent rare axe. Make sure to kill all the Essences you find on your way and slap em on any good base axes for your level. Also recommend doing any Vagans you find past A4ish to be able to craft %phys on any flat phys + open prefix axes you find. If you get real desperate you can even start slapping alcs on siege axes once you hit blood aqueduct. Make sure to roll a Viridian Jewel for mana leech as a GLAD as you wont be near the mana leech node as a Slayer would be until you get a Soul Taker.



Once you get something like these you should be set. Axe on the left was made by getting lucky and using an Essence of Zeal on a siege axe I found in blood aqueduct in SSF. You can definitely upgrade with just a better PDPS axe or a rolled Elder axe but it is not necessary.









In my opinion Best In Slot( BIS ) would be





Soul Taker may not be the greatest PDPS axe however allows us to reserve all of our mana. With the free Arctic Armor as well as no need to get mana leech it just provides an overall safety and ease of play. This also allows us to free up our Leap Slam link from Blood Magic thus making way for endurance charge on stun which actually reliably gains endurance charges. Another thing, doing a no regen map with Blood Magic + Leap Slam sucks with the amount and speed we are leaping.



For SSF, farming Shaped Tribunal as your only T12 for the divination card "The Soul" is an option otherwise get lucky or just use a rare axe.

Pretty simple to start just rustic recipe(sell magic or higher rustic sash + whetstone + weapon to vendor) your way through the acts until you find a decent rare axe. Make sure to kill all the Essences you find on your way and slap em on any good base axes for your level. Also recommend doing any Vagans you find past A4ish to be able to craft %phys on any flat phys + open prefix axes you find. If you get real desperate you can even start slapping alcs on siege axes once you hit blood aqueduct. Make sure to roll a Viridian Jewel for mana leech as a GLAD as you wont be near the mana leech node as a Slayer would be until you get a Soul Taker.Once you get something like these you should be set. Axe on the left was made by getting lucky and using an Essence of Zeal on a siege axe I found in blood aqueduct in SSF. You can definitely upgrade with just a better PDPS axe or a rolled Elder axe but it is not necessary.In my opinion Best In Slot() would beSoul Taker may not be the greatest PDPS axe however allows us to reserve all of our mana. With the free Arctic Armor as well as no need to get mana leech it just provides an overall safety and ease of play. This also allows us to free up our Leap Slam link from Blood Magic thus making way for endurance charge on stun which actually reliably gains endurance charges. Another thing, doing a no regen map with Blood Magic + Leap Slam sucks with the amount and speed we are leaping.For SSF, farming Shaped Tribunal as your only T12 for the divination card "The Soul" is an option otherwise get lucky or just use a rare axe.



Offhand

For leveling, just grab anything really. Was not uncommon for me to hit Act 4 with a white axe or sword in my offhand. For ssf just find any weapon with resistance until you find a unique or shaper weapon to use.



Some uniques you can use to level. Princess/Tempest are awesome and Relentless Fury is just an example that you can put anything you find in your offhand.









BIS





Corruptions are not needed however VERY useful. If you can corrupt your prismatic to get either AOE/Resolute Technique then consider it done unless you manage to craft or buy a godly offhand. Make sure it is 3 green and nothing else, including white sockets.



OR







Prerequisites

-Minimum of 2 phys as added ele rolls

-Insanity rolled gloves + 6L

-Possible with Slayer but you will have dog shit Leap Slams since you will be running haemophilias



Sceptres give most dmg and axes are easiest to roll.

For leveling, just grab anything really. Was not uncommon for me to hit Act 4 with a white axe or sword in my offhand. For ssf just find any weapon with resistance until you find a unique or shaper weapon to use.Some uniques you can use to level. Princess/Tempest are awesome and Relentless Fury is just an example that you can put anything you find in your offhand.Corruptions are not needed however VERY useful. If you can corrupt your prismatic to get either AOE/Resolute Technique then consider it done unless you manage to craft or buy a godly offhand. Make sure it is 3 green and nothing else, including white sockets.Sceptres give most dmg and axes are easiest to roll.



Helmet

Ahns for complete safety or rare helm for missing RES/INT





Ahns for complete safety or rare helm for missing RES/INT



Chest

Whatever you find/like. If you farm/find a tabula you can use that for a long time, I have seen people use it past lvl 90. I would use a 5L rare over tabula personally but if you are confident, tabula will provide faster clear speeds. Belly is the preferred chest until you can make/buy and roll a loreweave.









BIS







Make sure MAX RES roll is 80!! By far the most important mod on the chest. Not much else to say, we use every mod on that chest except for the crit chance and mana(if you are using soul taker).



Whatever you find/like. If you farm/find a tabula you can use that for a long time, I have seen people use it past lvl 90. I would use a 5L rare over tabula personally but if you are confident, tabula will provide faster clear speeds. Belly is the preferred chest until you can make/buy and roll a loreweave.Make sureroll is 80!! By far the most important mod on the chest. Not much else to say, we use every mod on that chest except for the crit chance and mana(if you are using soul taker).



Gloves

Slayer = haemophilias

Glad = Rare gloves, insanity rolled gloves if possible for Leap Slams





= haemophilias= Rare gloves, insanity rolled gloves if possible for Leap Slams



Boots

Anything that fits. Can use rare boots if you need the RES or Kaom's roots if you want flat life/immune to stun/immune to freeze.









BIS





2 Socket bubonics are OP! Don't even bother with 1 socket ones. Use multiple abyss jewel types if you can, though not necessary.

Indepth

60-100 flat life with good jewels + 6% life

2 more abyss jewels (duh!)

Movement speed not needed but QoL

Did i mention 2 abyss jewel sockets??

little bit of %inc dmg







Anything that fits. Can use rare boots if you need the RES or Kaom's roots if you want flat life/immune to stun/immune to freeze.2 Socket bubonics are OP! Don't even bother with 1 socket ones. Use multiple abyss jewel types if you can, though not necessary.



Belt

The one the ONLY







Best belt in the game, better than Headhunter guaranteed. Intimidate & Global Phys DMG (both scale our sunder AND blood explosions) + Reduced Extra DMG from Crits + life + RES! WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK FOR? Corrupting/buying a corrupted one for %life or anything else useful is pretty easy too. Use a rare belt that fits your RES and gives the most life until you find or buy one.

The one the ONLYBest belt in the game, better than Headhunter guaranteed. Intimidate & Global Phys DMG (both scale our sunder AND blood explosions) + Reduced Extra DMG from Crits + life + RES! WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK FOR? Corrupting/buying a corrupted one for %life or anything else useful is pretty easy too. Use a rare belt that fits your RES and gives the most life until you find or buy one.



Rings

Flex slots







Whatever you can find/buy that has high life and RES. Flat phys is always nice but I like to cap for ele weakness so for my Glad I went for higher RES rings over flat phys rings.

Flex slotsWhatever you can find/buy that has high life and RES. Flat phys is always nice but I like to cap for ele weakness so for my Glad I went for higher RES rings over flat phys rings.



Amulet

A rare ammy easily works, same as other gear look for life, RES, INT if needed, and flat phys







*IMPORTANT* do not get chance to gain end, frenzy, and power charges if you are using Ahn's Contempt as it will counteract the whole purpose of the item for some measly dmg.



Shaper ammy you want phys as extra ele

If Glad - Block chance applied to spells

A rare ammy easily works, same as other gear look for life, RES, INT if needed, and flat phys*IMPORTANT* do not get chance to gain end, frenzy, and power charges if you are using Ahn's Contempt as it will counteract the whole purpose of the item for some measly dmg.Shaper ammy you want phys as extra eleIf Glad - Block chance applied to spells



jewels

Abyss jewel in the boots, if not then just place them in your skill tree. You definitely want an Unholy Might abyss jewel







Otherwise normal stuff. Make sure to roll a Viridian Jewel for mana leech as a GLAD as you wont be near the mana leech node as a Slayer would be. Keep in mind "AOE/Phys dmg/%dmg" etc also scale your blood explosions so ideally you want those over things like "Phys dmg with axes/Phys dmg with 1h weps" etc







I like to be Ele Weakness capped so i got a bunch of res on my jewels. Remember with a Loreweave you need to over cap your res by another 5%!

Abyss jewel in the boots, if not then just place them in your skill tree. You definitely want an Unholy Might abyss jewelOtherwise normal stuff. Make sure to roll a Viridian Jewel for mana leech as a GLAD as you wont be near the mana leech node as a Slayer would be. Keep in mind "AOE/Phys dmg/%dmg" etc also scale your blood explosions so ideally you want those over things like "Phys dmg with axes/Phys dmg with 1h weps" etcI like to be Ele Weakness capped so i got a bunch of res on my jewels. Remember with a Loreweave you need to over cap your res by another 5%!



flasks

4 utility flasks + 1 life flask. At the start just use whatever you can get your hands on until you find/afford to get unique flasks.



Glad setup







Rumis + Glad ascendancy op





Slayer setup







No need for removes bleed, taste of hate for phys mitigation and dmg





NO LOVE







Yeah yeah 25% MORE melee dmg but that knock back feels AWFUL so I do not use it. If you do not mind knocking back everything and their mommas go for it.

4 utility flasks + 1 life flask. At the start just use whatever you can get your hands on until you find/afford to get unique flasks.Rumis + Glad ascendancy opNo need for removes bleed, taste of hate for phys mitigation and dmgYeah yeah 25% MORE melee dmg but that knock back feels AWFUL so I do not use it. If you do not mind knocking back everything and their mommas go for it.





Current Gladiator Gear



All items are replaceable so do not worry about getting the exact same items. In fact make sure to NOT copy my amulet, the chance to gain power charges actually counter acts the whole reason i run Ahn's Contempt(50% reduced extra damage taken from crits with no power charges). Also once you get enough attack speed you want to swap the Prismatic Eclipse for a nicely rolled Shaper weapon. I was just too lazy to upgrade gear after a certain point. The corruptions are just extra and not needed.





All items are replaceable so do not worry about getting the exact same items. In fact make sure to NOT copy my amulet, the chance to gain power charges actually counter acts the whole reason i run Ahn's Contempt(50% reduced extra damage taken from crits with no power charges). Also once you get enough attack speed you want to swap the Prismatic Eclipse for a nicely rolled Shaper weapon. I was just too lazy to upgrade gear after a certain point. The corruptions are just extra and not needed.



Slayer Gear from Flashback









Gems



Main Link

Sunder + Multistrike + Melee Phys + Chance to bleed + Ruthless + Maim / Faster Attacks / Damage on Full Life

Maim if you have Prismatic Eclipse

if you have Prismatic Eclipse Faster Attacks if you have a Shaper weapon in the offhand

if you have a Shaper weapon in the offhand Damage on Full Life if you are a Slayer

if you are a Slayer Note if you are a slayer AND using a shaper weapon(do not recommend) then replace Ruthless with Faster Attacks

with We DO NOT use Concentrated Effect as it hinders our Sunder's shockwaves AOE thus reducing our AOE OVERLAP when hitting into packs. It provides better single target/tooltip however lowers our clear speed. Don't wheelchair yourself.



Mobility

Leap Slam + Faster Attacks + Fortify + Blood Magic / Endurance Charge On Melee Stun / Culling Strike

MAKE SURE TO SOCKET THIS LINK IN YOUR INSANITY ROLLED GLOVES

Blood Magic until you get a Soul Taker

until you get a Soul Taker Culling Strike in theory may be decent if you are a GLAD and have a Soul Taker



Auras

Hatred + Herald of Ash + Arctic Armor

Arctic Armor once you have Soul Taker



Defense

Cast When Damage Taken + Immortal Call + Enfeeble



MISC

Blood Rage + Blood Magic

Only need Blood Magic if you are using a Soul Taker



Vaal Double Strike + Ancestral Warchief

If still have more sockets you can link these to Maim / Blind / Melee Phys / Culling depending on your ascendancy/wants/needs



Others

Gems I would use if I had more sockets



Vaal Grace - Provides very nice defense boost, would recommend on all builds that are not running intensive Vaal skills



Burning Damage + Swift Affliction + Herald of Ash - I have not PERSONALLY tried it but Sparrog used it in his run to #1 lvl 100 run in SSF HC Flashback event.



Enduring Cry - If you dont mind stopping to use a warcry like the good ol' days Enduring Cry is pretty nice for life regen and reliable Endurance Charges. Honestly even if I had this gem, I would probably only use it on hard bosses.



P.S. I hate using golems, they always die and attract unwanted attention from mobs so I never use golems EVEN if I have a slot open. If you like golems feels free to use whichever one fits your ascendancy.







Leveling & Tips

Some leveling things I prefer to do, not the be all and end all, play however you like.

Cleave your way to Sunder , Sunder your way to 100.

your way to , your way to 100. Onslaught in your main link until your attack speed feels good, swap for Faster Attacks on bosses if it is not already linked to Faster Attacks

in your main link until your attack speed feels good, swap for on bosses if it is not already linked to Faster Attacks over Multistrike until you have enough attack speed to not be glued to the ground with Multistrike , I usually swap around maps

over until you have enough attack speed to not be glued to the ground with , I usually swap around maps Enduring Cry for endurance charges early on for life regen/RES/phys reduction

for endurance charges early on for life regen/RES/phys reduction Blood Rage ASAP use life flask to offset degen

ASAP use life flask to offset degen Faster Attacks linked with Leap Slam ASAP. Running sucks.

linked with ASAP. Running sucks. Make sure your Leap Slam has the "always attack without moving" option selected

has the "always attack without moving" option selected Hatred for bosses, always on once you hit a4-a5

for bosses, always on once you hit a4-a5 Never upgrade past Colossal mana flask (Level 30) it will sustain you until you get leech

Roll a Viridian Jewel for mana leech as a GLAD as you wont be near the mana leech node as a Slayer would be

Some leveling things I prefer to do, not the be all and end all, play however you like.



Pantheon & Bandits

If you are really pushing ladder go ALIRA for the RES. If not, KILL ALL like a normal player.



GLAD

Major: Soul Of lunaris

Minor: Tukohama



SLAYER

Major: Arakaali

Minor: Whatever you like, I would go for Shakari for Incursion





PoB & Skill Trees

If you do not use Path of Building, now is the time for change! Become the tooltip warrior we all want to be. If you really do not want to use PoB you can just check my profile(JPNoHope and SirJP), it will always be public.



How I allocate my skill points

Go to Dervish

Ranger and grab the dual wield nodes(dont fill in the life nodes unless you need it)

Back to duelist area grab Cloth and Chain for early game RES. Respec out of it once you have good RES

Berserking and Duality if you have that on your tree. Grab Constitution

Axe dmg nodes

Resolute Technique/Life nodes/leech nodes whichever ones you need/want



Glad: https://pastebin.com/rVCvg8Ud

Slayer: https://pastebin.com/Y16fnbkA



*Note* for Incursion I would get Phase Acro on Slayer just for the ancient constructs that shoot the spell phys/chaos dmg shit.

Something like this: https://pastebin.com/hynQqZMt

If you do not use Path of Building, now is the time for change! Become the tooltip warrior we all want to be. If you really do not want to use PoB you can just check my profile(JPNoHope and SirJP), it will always be public.How I allocate my skill points: https://pastebin.com/rVCvg8Ud: https://pastebin.com/Y16fnbkAfor Incursion I would get Phase Acro on Slayer just for the ancient constructs that shoot the spell phys/chaos dmg shit.Something like this: https://pastebin.com/hynQqZMt



Feedback and Information From Other Players

DrOrganicSwagPHD

" its good to note that maim makes enemies take more damage from the phys part of ur explosion, and that stat sticks boost explosion dmg (as far as i have been told) i wouldn't also look at faster as a dps link, but as mobility to get you from one pack to another between sunders. you already 1 tap packs, and the links dont really matter for bosses anymore since you have vaal double

DrOrganicSwagPHD





Credits

Special thanks to Ventrua, Rathalos, and Sparrog for directly and indirectly helping me with "my" Sunder build. Also thanks to all the other Sunder ladder pushers out there with public profiles, you have all taught me a lot :)





If you have ANY questions or feedback feel free to post it here or visit I take no credit for the build and mostly learned from the top ladder sunder pushers. I personally started playing and practicing sunder during the HC Flashback Race event, where after a few deaths, got to lvl 98 placing rank 4 Slayer. Most recently, I was able to achieve getting level 100 Gladiator in HC Incursion rank 25. Basically, this build is a great league start and able to do almost all content! Keep in mind however that this guide is mostly directed at crushing maps.If you have ANY questions or feedback feel free to post it here or visit Twitch.tv/SirJP Last edited by SirJP94 on Jul 17, 2018, 9:53:36 PM Last bumped on Dec 15, 2018, 1:33:38 AM