In the latest installment in his multi-part interview series with Sway, Eminem discussed his disses against Tyler, the Creator and Earl Sweatshirt on the Kamikaze track “Fall.” “Tyler create nothin’, I see why you called yourself a f****t, bitch,” he rapped on the song. In the interview, Eminem expressed regret for using the homophobic slur in the song.

“I think the word that I called him on that song was one of the things where I felt like this might be too far,” he said. “Because in my quest to hurt him, I realize that I was hurting a lot of other people by saying it. ... It was one of the things that I kept going back to and going ‘I don’t feel right with this.’” Watch the interview below with the conversation about Tyler beginning at the 9:30 mark.

He also opened up about why he dissed Tyler, revealing that he took issue with Tyler and Earl’s comments about him in interviews and on social media. He specifically cited Tyler’s tweets about Shady XV and Earl saying “if you still follow Eminem, you drink way too much Mountain Dew.” “I was like, really? What the fuck,” Eminem said. “You guys were just on tour with us, we hung out, we kicked it, made jokes.” Eminem said his “breaking point” came when Tyler criticized his Beyoncé collaboration “Walk on Water.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Eminem confirmed that he really did receive a visit from Trump’s Secret Service following Eminem’s BET Hip-Hop Awards cypher about Trump. “They came to my studio, yeah,” he said. “They were basically just asking questions about my lyrics to see what the intent was behind them and if I was making an actual threat or just expressing myself.”

“Fall” notably features a guest appearance from Bon Iver’s Justin Vernon. Shortly after its release, Vernon disowned the song. “Not a fan of the message, it’s tired.” Later he added, “We are gonna kill this track.” Eminem has yet to respond to Vernon.

In the first installment of the Sway interview series, Eminem opened up about how fans reacted negatively to Revival’s rollout. He also said he’s “good with” Revival, saying he needed to make it in order to follow-up with Kamikaze. He also opened up about which albums he’s less than proud of, including Encore and Relapse. In the second part, Eminem addressed his feuds with Joe Budden and Machine Gun Kelly.

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