Right-wing pastor Rick Joyner recently appeared on the “Exploring The Prophetic” podcast, where he asserted that President Trump is actually “the most humble person you could imagine” because he knows that God was responsible for placing him in the White House.

Joyner asserted that he was among the few who had prophesied that Trump would win the election, which he said has endeared them to the president because Trump thought he was going to lose the election but now realizes that his victory was a work of God.

“We had predicted this and stood by it and it happened,” Joyner said. “As we saw, nobody else seemed to see it. I think Trump, it was a major encouragement to him because he thought he was going to lose and now he knows he would have lost. This is a God thing—he’s not there because of his own smarts or tenacity or anything else and I think it has brought a—even though a lot of people may not see it from his public persona, in private he is so humble, especially with any men or women of God. I mean, it’s like he becomes the most humble person you could imagine.”