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HOAXED

WARNING: Due to the possible connection of these clips with a known Hoaxer who is banned from this site, this thread may be 404ed/erased at anytime or thrown in the hoax forum if it is proven that this hoaxer is behind this event.

EDITED TO ADD: I just learned it is impossible to flag threads in the Hoax forum.

HOAX

A member of Youtube named REALUFOCLIPS claims the above clip is false and uses this video (that he made) to attempt to disprove it.



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EDITED TO ADD: I just learned it is impossible to flag threads in the Hoax forum.

edit on 2-2-2011 by Mr Mask because: I bad do no?



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After two days and several hours of excellent analysis by the members of ATS, specifically MrMask, laymanskeptic and giftOfprOphesy, these videos have been PROVEN to be HOAXES.Start here: www.abovetopsecret.com... and read on for all the evidence/analysis. This thread has been moved into the dread ATS [HOAX] Forum because the videos were all**********************************************************************************************************************************Greatings ATSers and visitors!I am Mr. Mask, and I'm one of those conspiracy theorists.I am about to tell you a story that really happened. Though I was not there when it was filmed, I saw much of the fallout after it flashed and flew away into the sky. I am talking about the Jerusalem Temple Mount UFO incident and the epic that followed in its wake.Believers, skeptics, comedians and programmers alike battled it out in a never ending dance of dueling debate. Virtual worlds were created, laws of physics were put to test, things were said that could never be unsaid again. And at the height of its roaring climax it was sent to the Hoax forum for reasons many refused to accept.Though I could never fully cover, nor repeat, everything said in that thread, you are welcomed to go there and read it all for yourself. At the time of me writing this- there are 75 pages worth of ATS history to be enjoyed there.The thread is authored by csimon and it would be great if you could go flag and star that thread so he may receive proper credit for breaking this story to the ATS community.The thread is HERE Here is a bare-bones and biased recap of the facts. Just the facts.A bunch of clips showed up on Youtube showing what appears to be a UFO appearing over Temple Mount in Jerusalem On Jan 28th This first clip appeared on Youtube.A few members quickly connected this incident to a prior incident in Utah.Utah Jan 27th 2011Shortly after, other clips started to appear. The "2nd Clip" was uploaded to Youtube on Jan 30th. It apparently shows the cellphone footage taken by the second man from clip one and contains the same audio as clip one with slight differences in sound quality.Both clip one and clip two are submitted as connected pieces of evidence and without them there can be no real discussion of this event. These are the first clips to be released of this UFO.More came soon enough. With the next one quickly debunked and proven a cheapThe third video (though mistakenly called "second" in its title) was of the UFO from a totally different perspective and with what appeared to be many voices. One was a lady from Mississippi. The video was proven to be a moving computer effect added over a still picture easily found HERE The clip is clearly a Hoax and a bad one at that. Truly the work of a desperate and loathsome huckster.Then the 4th video was uploaded on Feb 1st 2011. It shows the UFO event from another perspective and more up close. This video is assumed to not be an effect over a static image as cars move and lights flicker randomly within the city. Voices of two men can be heard witnessing the UFO "whoa!".There is a longer version of this clip with the men parking the car with a female inside. They have a long conversation in Hebrew before parking the car. One man leaves the car and walks towards a stone wall on the side of the road. The screen cuts and then the frame changes to begin playing the shorter version of this clip.Those are the clips that were debated and pondered on throughout the long thread that finally went to "HOAX" land. Many posters defended the the original videos but none of the later ones. Some attempted to debunk them all and claimed it already done. Some proudly sat on the fence refusing to decide until proper proof was obtained, while others swore up and down the footage was real.Needless to say...this is not over. There has been no conclusion. Here are some note worthy attempts to debunk certain things said over the course of the heavy debate.The ATS member named gift0fpr0phecy Believes the image breaks Parallax and attempts to prove it with this video he made.YT member named "Zezba9000" posted this video The community was still undecided at this time. Many more theories, and clips, and more theories, and more clips were shared all attempting to out-debunk each other with nobody seeming to agree on anything for sure. Bringing us here and now to this thread. That is the story as I remember it, delivered here with no bias or exaggeration. Feel free to correct me where I may have made a mistake.is a place to continue sharing information and debating the details of the case at hand. We are ATS, we should be able to verify or disprove these clips with facts and logic- one way or another if we "work together in a civil manner" we should be able to ultimately solve this mystery.a place to post off topic, hateful or otherwise insulting rhetoric nor is it a place to share complaints about ATS management or how they have handled this issue. There are proper channels for such complaints.All references, links, or publicity given to the hoaxer suspected to be involved with some of this caseWith that all said and done, I am sorry if this opening post was badly constructed or if it missed a lot of meat and bone of the older thread. That is what you are free to fill in here if you choose. The older thread will remain in the hoax bin while this thread will remain in Aliens and UFOs as long as there is no "sure proof" that this Hoaxer is responsible for this entire event. If at anytime it becomes apparent that all of these clips belong to the work of this treacherous scum bag this thread may go 404 or be moved to hoax as well- as the Staff see fit.If you do not wish to post in this thread, you are free to post in the other thread for as long as it stays open on Staff's decision.I know you guys are not my personal genies, but if I may have one wish it would be for anyone here not to star or flag this post. If you haven't starred or flagged csimon's original thread please go star and flag him now for first bringing this story to ATS.Now, if you choose to accept this mission, you are charged to take up your logic and your determination to get to the bottom of these clips and prove once and for all exactly what we are seeing here. There is a lot to post. Media attention, points of view, debunking and verifications.Some say this is the biggest event of the year while others call it the year's first big hoax.I personally hope to see a definitive answer given in light of true ATS workmanship.I'd like to end this post with thanking every poster in that thread weather we agreed or not. It was a great bunch of hours talking about UFOs and mysteries with the best think tank on earth. I had a blast and hope it continues here.See you in the pit.MMAnother job well done by ATS. The videos have been debunked. Here's the post: