Transcript for Democratic proposal for border security doesn't include wall funding

And. And hey everybody welcome to the brief him on ABC's Devin Dwyer on this very cold Thursday in many parts of the country agree to however White House reporter. And CB birthday girl beat you with us we were celebrating earlier Jordan some great things I'm hearing. Big stuff under way here at the White House today with some border negotiations. Border security talks up on Capitol Hill. Their their looming large for not a lot happening there let's bring in our John Parkinson up on Capitol Hill. For an update on those border security talks John everybody's sort of talking about the talks there. Trying to see what's going on trying to get a sense of whether we're gonna have another shut down. Or whether we could see a national emergency declared by. You were just telling me that there's no one actually on Capitol Hill had no negotiating. That's right there's no negotiations that are happening today yesterday at a conference committee did need for the first time the lawmakers went home after votes yesterday. And they're not expected to be back until Tuesday when we have the state of the union surprised the next meeting we'll see from those countries by wanted to happen until next Wednesday. The leader Pelosi speaker Pelosi excuse me it was here at the capitol today thank you get to ask her. About whether she would put a bill on the floor whenever the conference committee comes up with. And she told me of course I'll put it on the floor for a vote master even if it includes border while money and she said just flat. It's not going to include border woman she saw her she laid out. Why she made a huge huge wave at those comments I think we have a my sickle listen. To Nancy Pelosi answering your question. There's not going to be any woman in an improvement to place that's an appropriate I take pride in utility of the appropriations. Members to reach. Consensus. Left to their own devices without and we. Here in. I'd go to them for guidance they know their brief they know. That there's that this is the dollar amounts they know that impact. Investments. And our forwards that many of them have experience. In all of this. An attempt remind everybody this is the group of bipartisan lawmakers it's supposed to help us. Prevent avoid another government shut down. And give the president some about what he wants. I Jordan the president was tweeting this morning after forty years from Nancy Pelosi and as the lawmakers took a break from their early talks. He wasn't very optimistic about these. Now the president actually sent Republicans are wasting their time. In he also Devin we can kind of setting up here. I'll bet he's kind of lowering expectations right for what's gonna come out of this in almost. Spinning it as a ways to say you know what I actually sixteen if I'm Marty building while. Reality check no new while has been belts there are some renovations at a thing going on we see the president's starting to spin this message. Perhaps in preparation for nothing to come out of these negotiations. Yet he's not gonna get a lot from Democrats let's go back to jump Parkinson John they put the Democrats put their proposal their opening bet on the table yesterday. And I think we have a graphic of some of the things they're offering. They are offering to spend some money on border security. It pays. Some like a thousand new customs officers they propose they're talking about some new technology upgrades at the ports of interest entry scanners drones. Mail facility. For protection systems. Orders one big thing missing from that list though John there's absolutely no mention of the wall and can you detect any wiggle room there is there did you get the sense this is simply an opening pandora or his plus he's lined the final line. I think if there's any logo room it's not gonna be on building new construction in on the southern border I think that it would be three place existing structures that are failing right. One thing that you just mentioned there from that list was the ports of entry. And speaker Pelosi today said that you know they may be open to adding a couple ports of entry where they do see a flow of immigrants coming across the border. And she said of course if that would entail you know adding some sort of you know structures down there on the border. That may include like you know having some sort of a gate like you know you would see. And Tijuana or something other ports of entry that we have and so she expressed the willingness to do that to build new roads that you know help. The border security agents that are on the border you know. Patrolling those areas so she's not completely closing off infrastructure on the border. But as far as building new wall and you geographic areas she's trying to rev line right there. Current John Parkinson and help force thanks so much we know you'll be on most talks when they start out. Next week as that clock ticks down to another funding expiration but. The president didn't mince words either today it was just Nancy Pelosi Jordan you saw his comments earlier in the Oval Office here's a little bit a book president trump had to say. About the negotiations. If they don't give us a while it doesn't work without a ball it doesn't work we have caravans right now coming up from Honduras. We get a lot of money to. If you stopping by the way. But we pay hundreds of millions of dollars. To Guatemala Honduras. And it. And Alex melons at the White House force now Alex. You know the president from time to time as suggested maybe he would accept something and that's not. The wall or fence perhaps other forms of security steel slats. But here we are again it's like day job who if it's not a wall there's no deal. He and I remember actually last week it was a week ago today that I was outside. Of Kellyanne Conway brief in briefing reporters and she admonished one of our colleagues because the colleague. A cited a poll that she read that said that those approval for a wall. The public approval in terms of support for a wall has been downer and recently and Kellyanne Connolly look to their porous that we've caught a wall you called a law and that's wrong you that's fraud and upholding the right thing. And again this is one of those more and none yet another instance. Of the president really undermining the public relations strategy has been given to his aides but I think that what you heard there in that clip. Is potentially a preview of what we can expect to hear from him. In that state of the union I think that he end the White House team here really sees that as a last ditch chance to make a public case on that major platform. For wall to the American people. Yeah activity quite a spectacle. Next Tuesday night when he addresses the joint session of congress just days before the government set to shut down again Alex. Of course he's also talked about pulling the trigger on a national emergency some committee members of his party. Had Penske is skeptical of what's your sense on that if they declare a national emergency. Resolve this issue take it off the table does the government get monitor could we see a shut down. And a national emergency. What's interesting is that I don't think we've heard the president even threatened to shut down. Since last Friday in. Deadline and I don't have that wall money but even as Jordan pointed out earlier he seems to potentially be moving a walk away from that and saying. I've already built the wall there's already large sections of wall being built any kind of reminds me of when last year when they had to declare the Pope the only public health emergency. And ended up not being exactly what the White House said it was going to be it was not that public. Declaration that major declaration that would have made it all those new funds available as more eight PR stunt in the end. Our Allentown force at the White House stand on the case Alex thanks so much in Jordan is Alice was just saying there and you mentioned earlier just it. So everybody's on the same page the president has constructed no new. Miles of wall he's I think upgraded some thirty miles there's that seventy miles a concertina wire laid out. But there hasn't been any new wall despite his tweets. Absolutely noun you Wallin what's also remarked balls he. Really scene a president meals on the expectation of what no wall would be during the campaign he laid out this idea that it was going to cover the entire 2000 mild. I didn't border between Yost in Mexico but now we understand it Steve Moore about hundred or so miles that the administration is looking to build. That is far from being a wall from sea to shining sea in. The president talking a lot this morning and it's weak storm about the conditions along the border as well let's bring in our immigration. Reporter Quinn on who spent a lot of time down there in Texas along the border did some reporting. Quinn won't want to ask you about a couple things first of all the president was tweeting that crime in Mexico. He's been off the charts in creating these horrific conditions that spilling across the border. And there are some wrinkles to that they can be problematic for the president right if he basically makes the case and it's a dangerous in Mexico could undercut his argument with with Jesus Alice. Commercial that's exactly right Devin because he's saying that asylum seekers need to go back and wait in Mexico for their claims to process if he's also saying it's not a very safe place for them to stay. It's not something that the US typically agrees to to have asylum seekers who were trying to avoid violence and in some cases persecution in their home countries go back to a country that's not. If at all William who are more difficult to stand up two legal challenge in court meanwhile you've been tracking and very dramatic story that some folding and in Texas right now that the government says that. His advocates say rather than as many as thirty detainees in US custody immigrants that have come across are staging a hunger strike the government says eleven. Then by their account but some of them are now being force fed. That's right there is a group in El Paso that is on a hunger strike they've been on a hunger strike for about a month now. And six of them. I says they've obtained court orders to force feed them. Now when judges spoke with some of the volunteers have been meeting with these advocates Perry could be meeting with the is detained migrants. And they say this involves Wheeling them from their holding cells in the detention facility. Down to a medical unit because they can't walk. And then inserting a tube through their nose to. To feed them while there on this hunger strike. And this has been going on in some cases for a couple of weeks now and and when they protest in exactly are trying to draw attention to and through this action well there they're protesting the circumstances of their detention there hoping to get released on parole. While there are a claim for withholding removal processes remember these are people who are up for deportation they're trying to get that stopped they wanna get released on parole sleet and go through the legal process to get the permission to get permission to stay in the US. No immigration lawyers and advocates say that those parole processes those alternatives to detention are very effective in and there are studies that support that. The return rates people coming back to finish up that process are in eighty to 90%. You know people come back and and they finish up their claim once they're released on parole the trump administration. Dis agrees with that when I brought up alternatives in conversations with the Department of Homeland Security. They've completely reject the notion that alternatives are. Arafat lost huge backlog. And they complain that they don't show up in large part because of that backlog and they refuse sent at least at this point to find more immigration judges to sort of accident that Quinlan thanks so much terrific reporting and I just stay on it and abcnews.com. Shifting gears now to the twice when he race for president obviously immigration a hot topic they're Jordan. How we've been catching up here in the briefing room with a number of potential democratic candidates for a for president to take on Donald Trump and today we have the opportunity. To speak with the man who would be the youngest president ever elected. Here in the United States at 37 years old meter mirror people which edged a South Bend, Indiana here's a little bit of work conversation. It's great to have you mr. mayor is so. Gotta start yet to set us all straight on your Maltese last name how to pronounce it may be one of the most mystery announced in politics give us a lesson. That's announcement jets believe it or not it's a very common name in Malta where my dad immigrated from -- ounce up and they mostly just calling mayor Pete. Is it true I saw some more aligned to that translates to lord of the poultry I think that's right here talk a little bit about how you can appeal to Milan meals in ways that some of your or some of these older Democrats may be cannot. Well look I will be the current stage of the current president and 2054. God willing will be here in 2054 and you think about that. When you're picturing that future not as a theoretical thing but as a part of your life senior preparing for things just come of the world. Differently you have a different sense of urgency you know coming from the generation that grew up with school shootings happening all over the country. Coming from the generation that are provided most of the people who served as I did. In the wars after 9/11 and the generation that's dealing with climate change were already facing and those impacts are going to accelerate. So I think you just have a different attitude when you understand that these issues about the future are not somebody else's problem they are personal. Current let's talk about climate change the green new deal. Seems to be the buzz word of the early months here of the primary campaign what what is a green new deal look like two years. Well I think I like it I think they're green new deal right now is more or is it well it's more of a gold and it is a policy right there are a lot of different ways he could organize around us but the fundamental idea that we need energy independence. We need to do something about carbon and in the process of doing that we do it right. We can create a lot of jobs five re imagining how we get our energy in this country I mean if if our country is able to. Send people into space we can absolutely. Make sure that renewable power is available to more homes and into American industry. And the reality is we have to look as a mayor I have had to deal with climate change and all kinds of different forms from. Extreme flooding and rainfall that sit in our community to the heat and cold this is not just a story playing out on the North Pole this is something that is now hitting American. Midwestern cities and my generation will be on the business end of climate change so oh we better start doing something different what we've done before has just not been good enough. Now one of them critical questions that Hillary Clinton faced. In between sixteen campaign is what we should call her husband if she wanted what he'd be the first to dude. Would he be the first mate to bill apparently preferred first man have you in Chastain talked about how you might. Call him if you take the White House. He's already got this role in our communities. First gentleman a South Bend and then people have embraced him as somebody who's in that were also I guess we'll go with that but disposes of him. And I like the ring a first gentleman. Including its got its real dream to end here academic first dude. So we'll see it was great to meet mayor Pete love the full interview coming up a little in her here and ABC news live in an abcnews.com. And tomorrow will be talking with John Delaney. Who he has former rogue congressman from Maryland he's been spending the most time out in Iowa he's been up a home 99 Iowa counties already. And this hasn't even really gotten in gotten started to back in tomorrow to meet John doing. I shifting gears a little bit to have back to the Muller investigation top headline here in Washington today Jack is. Roger Stone making waves again just the day immediately surrounding emirates today didn't and he wanted to hold a press conference to talk to reporters so much for that gag order that people were speculating about might come down this week he's he's out in full force though we have certainly why can't he wants. Like him. About. The raid about the. Charges against them and sits on seven counts and he was in a indicted and arraigned by Robert Morris team five counts for lying to a congress who also charged with obstructing justice also charged with tampering with witnesses and we learn from the government today that they consider their evidence. Pile here to be voluminous and complex what does that mean. Right so opponents is to have you. People of a requirement mineral and right to speedy trial but when occasionally complicated. Just department can slow that down from him more time time to deal with the evidence of this is just procedural but they've terabytes worth of material to get through that they do you know presumably just. Seized in an answer procedure last Friday so lot of stuff for them to still. Forcefully still pleading not guilty he says he didn't do any of these things including lying to congress and in fact that press conference we're talking to a today Jack our team was there let's take a little listen to what Roger Stone had to say about all that evidence. That the feds say they have against him. I believe it. Over a two year period maybe two and half year period. My emails my text messages my phone calls had been monitored there's certainly nothing new I have deleted nothing. I have erased nothing. So good plane to the court of public opinion Jack also went on to complain a little bit about that. Pretty remarkable FBI raid that we saw some coverage of a few days ago when maze they stormed his house trying to bring amount in handcuffs. He says that the president Lindsey Graham some other Republicans want an investigation of the FBI for how that was condemned the view what's your sense of how that went down. Well mr. lived there are some questions that that could be addressed we don't know everything that the FBI knows in the Muller's team knows presumably at some point we might see publicly. The search warrant at Davidson things that they wanted to look for the things that there were they're trying to seize and and in what they in fact got. Can instead he says guy sewn up within six teens amphibious assault vehicles. Really that's that's his take on this it was totally unnecessary for show right well so in any sort of law enforcement operation the first thing is to do it safely so. They never seem anything there's no such thing as routine tonight can assume everything's really don't like guns behind what ranked either federal agents have to carry guns rated in every religious sort of willow oh I forgot it money needed. It so they have to have them in the have to wearable protest us. Part of the job so. You they wanted to say they wanted to and effectively senator thing they're doing is they're gonna search the house so they won't have enough manpower to be able to do that and do in a timely manner so and what is there any precedent for the president of the United States requesting or seeming to suggest he's open to. Some sort of a review of an FBI raid of this order that's seems pretty usual it's it's. It's pretty unusual he has the chief executive so he can initiate things like that are asked that they be done. Brian you know given the nature this case and how it fares on his campaign and you know the the Russian tradition. Then a broader investigation. It is unusual for this president for the use sort of sticking its nose and in this in this manner they're watching closely were their Jordan. Absolutely had this is top of that docket over at the White House but again this is a story that the White House has since tried to distance the White House from altogether saying. Has nothing to do with the president but of course we know. Carter centers around the president's at close political advisors for decades. One time it ally we shall see when they go to trial if they go to trial who who knows perhaps are to be some sort of a plea agreement. Before they get to that but Jack Horner who stay on the case and. You're hardly be Jack with your fleece there that it's really important and well politics here but everybody in this town is talking about the Cole this Hampshire. Many of you are wherever you are and to today we wanted to sort of take our hats off to all those tip our hats all those working outside the airline workers. The construction workers and especially our law enforcement and military who are standing guard all around the country and around the world in these cold temperatures. Today to stay alive look or look earlier this morning today over at Arlington national cemetery and we'll leave you with this picture the old guard at Arlington standing watch. In these frigid. January temperatures at the tomb of the unknowns we'll see you tomorrow. And a. Well.

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