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LegendaryActivity: 2534Merit: 1167 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 10:21:50 AM #32981 Quote from: pönde on September 30, 2017, 09:45:28 AM The coinhive.com success will increase the risk of the 51% attack. So why should not we start more of these web-mining services? Mining will be decentralized more and there will be less 51% risk.



The Monero community for sure have ability to do this.



I think there are some people already working on it. I agree it is a good idea to encourage those efforts.

I think there are some people already working on it. I agree it is a good idea to encourage those efforts.

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LegendaryActivity: 981Merit: 1005No maps for these territories Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 12:00:43 PM #32982 Quote from: KeyJockey on September 29, 2017, 03:54:46 PM controlled opposition psy-op" entirely from the get-go



It's a shame, really... philosophically/politically I'd prefer to believe that he's the real deal.



But unfortunately that's been looking more and more unlikely as time goes on, the more he opens his mouth...

Snowden coming out against Monero in favor of ZCash is, to me, just one more nudge towards his whole situation being a "" entirely from the get-goIt's a shame, really... philosophically/politically I'd prefer to believe that he's the real deal.But unfortunately that's been looking more and more unlikely as time goes on, the more he opens his mouth...

Yeah, Snowden is 100% a controlled disidence agent. He keeps working for the NSA. Only blind poeple fail to see that since the very beginning Yeah, Snowden is 100% a controlled disidence agent. He keeps working for the NSA. Only blind poeple fail to see that since the very beginning

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Full MemberActivity: 306Merit: 109 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 12:33:26 PM #32984 Quote from: smooth on September 30, 2017, 10:21:50 AM Quote from: pönde on September 30, 2017, 09:45:28 AM The coinhive.com success will increase the risk of the 51% attack. So why should not we start more of these web-mining services? Mining will be decentralized more and there will be less 51% risk.



The Monero community for sure have ability to do this.



I think there are some people already working on it. I agree it is a good idea to encourage those efforts.



I think there are some people already working on it. I agree it is a good idea to encourage those efforts.

Hmm... Sounds good. So you think some people are working on, or do you know some are working on it?



And we need many of these webmining services. So that there for sure is as less centralization as possible. And to let the webminingpool fees to go down. Anyway what kind of a hardware/software/maintenance is needed at the webmining service provider side? If money is needed to start this, it will not be a problem. XMR crowd funding will do it in no time.



Yea. Definetely webmining is good for any coin. Specially as long as there is enough webminingpools to keep it decentralized. Hmm... Sounds good. So yousome people are working on, or do yousome are working on it?And we need many of these webmining services. So that there for sure is as less centralization as possible. And to let the webminingpool fees to go down. Anyway what kind of a hardware/software/maintenance is needed at the webmining service provider side? If money is needed to start this, it will not be a problem. XMR crowd funding will do it in no time.Yea. Definetely webmining is good for any coin. Specially as long as there is enough webminingpools to keep it decentralized.

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Full MemberActivity: 200Merit: 114 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 12:52:13 PM #32985



https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/738b1z/why_segwit2x_would_be_a_government_takeover_of



http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/imf-chief-tells-central-bankers-ignore-bitcoin-50176592



Hoping to hear from some of the knowledgable people like aminorex or smooth.





Is Segwit2X a government/corporate takeover and what could that mean for XMR / the entire cryptospace?Hoping to hear from some of the knowledgable people like aminorex or smooth.

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Full MemberActivity: 420Merit: 100 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 01:38:57 PM #32986 Since I invested in Monero in Bittrex the price has gone down and down still now. And I think this trend is continued for last 3 month. Have anybody the idea when the reversal will come?

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Sr. MemberActivity: 675Merit: 373 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 03:37:03 PM #32989 Quote from: Febo on September 30, 2017, 02:18:58 PM

at time of writing this first Monero mobile wallet just come out of Beta: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.m2049r.xmrwallet

But people are creatures of habit and tend to do as they're told, with a respect for authority that verges on reverence. Never mind how fast the technology develops, it's going to take a long time for society to evolve. It may be that some catastrophe happens first. I installed that wallet on my phone as soon as I found out about it. I'm hoping that Monero will become well known and widely used as bitcoin, with onine retailers accepting monero, people trading it for cash, and using monero for all the stuff bitcoin is used for now.But people are creatures of habit and tend to do as they're told, with a respect for authority that verges on reverence. Never mind how fast the technology develops, it's going to take a long time for society to evolve. It may be that some catastrophe happens first.

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LegendaryActivity: 1596Merit: 1029Sine secretum non libertas Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 03:44:29 PM

Last edit: September 30, 2017, 03:58:32 PM by aminorex #32990 Quote from: Febo on September 30, 2017, 02:18:58 PM For sure rare 3 months ago predicted Monero at $100 at end of September. Most thought HW wallet, mobile wallet and multisig will be the triggers.



Awesome call, that was. Lately I am more focussed on the (easier, on assumptions) longer-term estimation task:



Monero has consistently repriced higher with each positive development, and the number and scope of bullish developments in the pipe is increasing, not decreasing, as the price, hash and community all rise in tandem. It's the foothills of the exponential phase of adoption here. After, comes the super-exponential expansion phase, as n log n network effect kicks in, composed with a FOMO function. Eventually, the market saturates at a given development level, FOMO dies, and price pulls back, but until XMR denominates at least 10% of the 22 trillion USD dark global GDP and at least 1% of the 80 trillion light GDP (for PQ = 3 tUSD) the cycle keeps repeating in a larger S-curve on a scale of ca. 10 years. If the velocity is an historically typical 5, the market cap of XMR should top out in the neighborhood of 600 bn USD, and 1 XMR should be worth about 30k USD2012.



(The reason why BTC is over 4k now is not the size of the BTC economy, but the outsized reserve demand, which implies a much lower velocity of money.)



In the longer run (multiple decades) XMR value should grow with the global economy, so holding it will be like holding the DJ Global Index, in terms of future expectation at any given moment, which should be modulated by some XMR-specific risk factor.

Awesome call, that was. Lately I am more focussed on the (easier, on assumptions) longer-term estimation task:Monero has consistently repriced higher with each positive development, and the number and scope of bullish developments in the pipe is increasing, not decreasing, as the price, hash and community all rise in tandem. It's the foothills of the exponential phase of adoption here. After, comes the super-exponential expansion phase, as n log n network effect kicks in, composed with a FOMO function. Eventually, the market saturates at a given development level, FOMO dies, and price pulls back, but until XMR denominates at least 10% of the 22 trillion USD dark global GDP and at least 1% of the 80 trillion light GDP (for PQ = 3 tUSD) the cycle keeps repeating in a larger S-curve on a scale of ca. 10 years. If the velocity is an historically typical 5, the market cap of XMR should top out in the neighborhood of 600 bn USD, and 1 XMR should be worth about 30k USD2012.(The reason why BTC is over 4k now is not the size of the BTC economy, but the outsized reserve demand, which implies a much lower velocity of money.)In the longer run (multiple decades) XMR value should grow with the global economy, so holding it will be like holding the DJ Global Index, in terms of future expectation at any given moment, which should be modulated by some XMR-specific risk factor. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.

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LegendaryActivity: 2674Merit: 1794Holding my Breath Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 04:02:47 PM #32991 Quote from: aminorex on September 30, 2017, 03:44:29 PM Quote from: Febo on September 30, 2017, 02:18:58 PM For sure rare 3 months ago predicted Monero at $100 at end of September. Most thought HW wallet, mobile wallet and multisig will be the triggers.



Awesome call, that was. Lately I am more focussed on the (easier, on assumptions) longer-term estimation task:



Monero has consistently repriced higher with each positive development, and the number and scope of bullish developments in the pipe is increasing, not decreasing, as the price, hash and community all rise in tandem. It's the foothills of the exponential phase of adoption here. After, comes the super-exponential expansion phase, as n log n network effect kicks in, composed with a FOMO function. Eventually, the market saturates at a given development level, FOMO dies, and price pulls back, but until XMR denominates at least 10% of the 22 trillion USD dark global GDP and at least 1% of the 80 trillion light GDP (for PQ = 3 tUSD) the cycle keeps repeating in a larger S-curve on a scale of ca. 10 years. If the velocity is an historically typical 5, the market cap of XMR should top out in the neighborhood of 600 bn USD, and 1 XMR should be worth about 30k USD2012.



(The reason why BTC is over 4k now is not the size of the BTC economy, but the outsized reserve demand, which implies a much lower velocity of money.)



In the longer run (multiple decades) XMR value should grow with the global economy, so holding it will be like holding the DJ Global Index, in terms of future expectation at any given moment, which should be modulated by some XMR-specific risk factor.



Awesome call, that was. Lately I am more focussed on the (easier, on assumptions) longer-term estimation task:Monero has consistently repriced higher with each positive development, and the number and scope of bullish developments in the pipe is increasing, not decreasing, as the price, hash and community all rise in tandem. It's the foothills of the exponential phase of adoption here. After, comes the super-exponential expansion phase, as n log n network effect kicks in, composed with a FOMO function. Eventually, the market saturates at a given development level, FOMO dies, and price pulls back, but until XMR denominates at least 10% of the 22 trillion USD dark global GDP and at least 1% of the 80 trillion light GDP (for PQ = 3 tUSD) the cycle keeps repeating in a larger S-curve on a scale of ca. 10 years. If the velocity is an historically typical 5, the market cap of XMR should top out in the neighborhood of 600 bn USD, and 1 XMR should be worth about 30k USD2012.(The reason why BTC is over 4k now is not the size of the BTC economy, but the outsized reserve demand, which implies a much lower velocity of money.)In the longer run (multiple decades) XMR value should grow with the global economy, so holding it will be like holding the DJ Global Index, in terms of future expectation at any given moment, which should be modulated by some XMR-specific risk factor.

I covet your enthusiasm currently. I am discouraged by the deflating XMR/BTC status. I covet your enthusiasm currently. I am discouraged by the deflating XMR/BTC status.

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Hero MemberActivity: 952Merit: 552 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 04:11:44 PM #32993 Quote from: cAPSLOCK on September 30, 2017, 04:02:47 PM Quote from: aminorex on September 30, 2017, 03:44:29 PM Quote from: Febo on September 30, 2017, 02:18:58 PM For sure rare 3 months ago predicted Monero at $100 at end of September. Most thought HW wallet, mobile wallet and multisig will be the triggers.



Awesome call, that was. Lately I am more focussed on the (easier, on assumptions) longer-term estimation task:



Monero has consistently repriced higher with each positive development, and the number and scope of bullish developments in the pipe is increasing, not decreasing, as the price, hash and community all rise in tandem. It's the foothills of the exponential phase of adoption here. After, comes the super-exponential expansion phase, as n log n network effect kicks in, composed with a FOMO function. Eventually, the market saturates at a given development level, FOMO dies, and price pulls back, but until XMR denominates at least 10% of the 22 trillion USD dark global GDP and at least 1% of the 80 trillion light GDP (for PQ = 3 tUSD) the cycle keeps repeating in a larger S-curve on a scale of ca. 10 years. If the velocity is an historically typical 5, the market cap of XMR should top out in the neighborhood of 600 bn USD, and 1 XMR should be worth about 30k USD2012.



(The reason why BTC is over 4k now is not the size of the BTC economy, but the outsized reserve demand, which implies a much lower velocity of money.)



In the longer run (multiple decades) XMR value should grow with the global economy, so holding it will be like holding the DJ Global Index, in terms of future expectation at any given moment, which should be modulated by some XMR-specific risk factor.



Awesome call, that was. Lately I am more focussed on the (easier, on assumptions) longer-term estimation task:Monero has consistently repriced higher with each positive development, and the number and scope of bullish developments in the pipe is increasing, not decreasing, as the price, hash and community all rise in tandem. It's the foothills of the exponential phase of adoption here. After, comes the super-exponential expansion phase, as n log n network effect kicks in, composed with a FOMO function. Eventually, the market saturates at a given development level, FOMO dies, and price pulls back, but until XMR denominates at least 10% of the 22 trillion USD dark global GDP and at least 1% of the 80 trillion light GDP (for PQ = 3 tUSD) the cycle keeps repeating in a larger S-curve on a scale of ca. 10 years. If the velocity is an historically typical 5, the market cap of XMR should top out in the neighborhood of 600 bn USD, and 1 XMR should be worth about 30k USD2012.(The reason why BTC is over 4k now is not the size of the BTC economy, but the outsized reserve demand, which implies a much lower velocity of money.)In the longer run (multiple decades) XMR value should grow with the global economy, so holding it will be like holding the DJ Global Index, in terms of future expectation at any given moment, which should be modulated by some XMR-specific risk factor.

I covet your enthusiasm currently. I am discouraged by the deflating XMR/BTC status.

I covet your enthusiasm currently. I am discouraged by the deflating XMR/BTC status.

Most GOOD Alts have been deflating since BTC is gaining strength I suspect BTC pump is incoming.. should have sold earlier.. Most GOOD Alts have been deflating since BTC is gaining strength I suspect BTC pump is incoming.. should have sold earlier..

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LegendaryActivity: 1941Merit: 1000 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 05:42:53 PM #32994 Quote from: dEBRUYNE on September 30, 2017, 04:04:14 PM Monerujo - Production Release v1.0 now on Google Play Store - by m2049r



https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/73atah/update_monerujo_production_release_v10_now_on/









Oh great, an unofficial mobile wallet.

If this doesn't smell like a great scam to steal a shitload of wallets i don't know what does...

It's also nice because they can't just steal your Monero, they can steal every other crypto you have on your mobile as well, gotta love mobile wallets and the mobile system security.

Be warned. Oh great, an unofficial mobile wallet.If this doesn't smell like a great scam to steal a shitload of wallets i don't know what does...It's also nice because they can't just steal your Monero, they can steal every other crypto you have on your mobile as well, gotta love mobile wallets and the mobile system security.Be warned. 14b8PdeWLqK3yi3PrNHMmCvSmvDEKEBh3E

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LegendaryActivity: 1941Merit: 1000 Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation September 30, 2017, 05:52:42 PM #32997 Quote from: garytheasshole on September 30, 2017, 05:49:51 PM Quote from: kwukduck on September 30, 2017, 05:42:53 PM Quote from: dEBRUYNE on September 30, 2017, 04:04:14 PM Monerujo - Production Release v1.0 now on Google Play Store - by m2049r



https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/73atah/update_monerujo_production_release_v10_now_on/









Oh great, an unofficial mobile wallet.

If this doesn't smell like a great scam to steal a shitload of wallets i don't know what does...

It's also nice because they can't just steal your Monero, they can steal every other crypto you have on your mobile as well, gotta love mobile wallets and the mobile system security.

Be warned.

Oh great, an unofficial mobile wallet.If this doesn't smell like a great scam to steal a shitload of wallets i don't know what does...It's also nice because they can't just steal your Monero, they can steal every other crypto you have on your mobile as well, gotta love mobile wallets and the mobile system security.Be warned.

No idea why mobile wallets even exist, I don't trust my andorid at all, everyone is clueless what the OS is doing and what vulnerabilities or even backdoors may lurk, why would you deposit cryptocurrency on such a device is beyond me.

No idea why mobile wallets even exist, I don't trust my andorid at all, everyone is clueless what the OS is doing and what vulnerabilities or even backdoors may lurk, why would you deposit cryptocurrency on such a device is beyond me.



Consider a very big portion of all banking is done on mobile devices these days, this problem is not limited to crypto.

Mobile apps can be safe but using a 3rd party app from some unknown anonymous random guy on teh interwebs, sounds very safe! Consider a very big portion of all banking is done on mobile devices these days, this problem is not limited to crypto.Mobile apps can be safe but using a 3rd party app from some unknown anonymous random guy on teh interwebs, sounds very safe! 14b8PdeWLqK3yi3PrNHMmCvSmvDEKEBh3E