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The Sun is Rising Way Too Far to the North!

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07/02/2016 08:09 AM

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I'm bringing in my tomatoe plants

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07/02/2016 08:26 AM

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The bots will be in any second to call you a tard, but you're right - the planet has moved. Might even be why they're trying so hard to sell 'climate change' and chemtrailing the shit out of us. Who knows? They'll never tell the truth.

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07/02/2016 08:33 AM

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I'm bringing in my tomatoe plants

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It's called summer you fucking idiot. Every year we get these retarded posts. It's called summer you fucking idiot. Every year we get these retarded posts.

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07/02/2016 08:35 AM

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I'm bringing in my tomatoe plants

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It's called summer you fucking idiot. Every year we get these retarded posts.

It's called summer you fucking idiot. Every year we get these retarded posts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43903688



we got a season tard

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sorry about my ambiguousness...

I was talking about you sorry about my ambiguousness...I was talking about you

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07/02/2016 08:49 AM

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The bots will be in any second to call you a tard, but you're right - the planet has moved. Might even be why they're trying so hard to sell 'climate change' and chemtrailing the shit out of us. Who knows? They'll never tell the truth.

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i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year

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07/02/2016 08:49 AM

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The bots will be in any second to call you a tard, but you're right - the planet has moved. Might even be why they're trying so hard to sell 'climate change' and chemtrailing the shit out of us. Who knows? They'll never tell the truth.

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i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year

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07/02/2016 08:49 AM

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The bots will be in any second to call you a tard, but you're right - the planet has moved. Might even be why they're trying so hard to sell 'climate change' and chemtrailing the shit out of us. Who knows? They'll never tell the truth.

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i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year

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07/02/2016 08:56 AM



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I'm bringing in my tomatoe plants

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Check it at noon and see where it is. Even better, put up a stake or a pole that is perfectly plumbed and see if it makes a shadow to the north at noon.

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Communism is SLAVERY Check it at noon and see where it is. Even better, put up a stake or a pole that is perfectly plumbed and see if it makes a shadow to the north at noon.

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07/02/2016 09:06 AM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: The Sun is Rising Way Too Far to the North! I noticed this morning..... I was up early and running to get coffee driving due east just before 5am. The glow in the sky was amazing a deep orange with light pink highlights on the rows of clouds. It was hard to not see God in it but, it was quite a bit to my left. I'm really not sure if I was further north would the sun end up being east or still to my left.

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07/02/2016 09:14 AM

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This has me FREAKED THE FUCK OUT.





I saw the moon during THE DAY TIME.This has me FREAKED THE FUCK OUT. Quoting: Troller Durden



You should call a friend in the other side of the world and ask them if they see it too. You should call a friend in the other side of the world and ask them if they see it too.

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07/02/2016 09:18 AM

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Summer solstice, the first day of summer is when the sun is as far north as it gets in the cycle. That was June 20th. Its only due east and west on the equinoxes halfway between the solstices. Fall starts on September 22nd this year, look for the sun to rise and set due east and due west on that day.



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07/02/2016 09:22 AM



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The bots will be in any second to call you a tard, but you're right - the planet has moved. Might even be why they're trying so hard to sell 'climate change' and chemtrailing the shit out of us. Who knows? They'll never tell the truth.

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THIS ^^



I wont know for sure but in oct if it is not setting exactly in the V at the end of the valley i live in then we defo have probs as my friend was here in oct and we noted the sunset setting exactly at bottom of the "V"



Atm it is way off to the north... THIS ^^I wont know for sure but in oct if it is not setting exactly in the V at the end of the valley i live in then we defo have probs as my friend was here in oct and we noted the sunset setting exactly at bottom of the "V"Atm it is way off to the north...

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07/02/2016 09:23 AM

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07/02/2016 11:02 AM

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No, OP doesn't understand that. The majority of human on earth also do not know that.



I noticed a tard by their use of subjective language, "way too far". Unless they could specify how many feet or degrees far, they're tard. And I bet in their other manifestation of tardism, they're either flatearthers or hoaxtards. No, OP doesn't understand that. The majority of human on earth also do not know that.I noticed a tard by their use of subjective language, "way too far". Unless they could specify how many feet or degrees far, they're tard. And I bet in their other manifestation of tardism, they're either flatearthers or hoaxtards.

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07/02/2016 11:05 AM

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I'm bringing in my tomatoe plants

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It's called summer you fucking idiot. Every year we get these retarded posts.

It's called summer you fucking idiot. Every year we get these retarded posts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43903688



yep yep

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07/02/2016 11:13 AM

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Serriously though, I can't believe this goes on year after year. Yes, the sun rises and sets further north in the (northern hemisphere) summer, and south in the winter. What exactly do you think causes the seasons? The longer days in summer and shorter in winter? Warmer in summer, cooler in winter?



Most people learn this stuff in their first few years at school, so I can only assume the eejits posting about it were either too busy sticking pencils up their noses in class, or had the worst teachers in the world... Just wait a few months. This place will be full of idiots posting about how far south the sun is...Serriously though, I can't believe this goes on year after year. Yes, the sun rises and sets further north in the (northern hemisphere) summer, and south in the winter. What exactly do you think causes the seasons? The longer days in summer and shorter in winter? Warmer in summer, cooler in winter?Most people learn this stuff in their first few years at school, so I can only assume the eejits posting about it were either too busy sticking pencils up their noses in class, or had the worst teachers in the world...

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07/02/2016 11:23 AM



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The bots will be in any second to call you a tard, but you're right - the planet has moved. Might even be why they're trying so hard to sell 'climate change' and chemtrailing the shit out of us. Who knows? They'll never tell the truth.

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i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year

i agree...its way north of where it should be this time of year Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44987173



No it isn't. It's called the seasons, it's normal, learn what causes seasonal variation...





Hey Op. Take a picture exactly at the same time the sun rises, for a week and then post the pics here so the schills can then suck an egg. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72149042



Here's a better idea, take pictures from a fixed perspective at day and again at night and use the stars to compare the sun's position to its expected position...



For example, here's a timelapse from an all-sky camera at the Sierra Remote Observatory:



Here's an image from that webcam showing sunrise on the 30th:

[link to h.dropcanvas.com]



Using my spreadsheet based on Newcomb's equations, here are the expected coordinates of the sun at that time:

Year 2016

month 6

day 30

hour (UT) 13

minute 39

second 0

W Longitude (Decimal deg) 119.4

Latitude (Decimal deg) (N+, S-) 37.07

Height above sea level (meters) 1405

Pressure (mb) 1013.25

Temperature (Centigrade) 25



Solar Coordinates

Apparent Right Ascension at Equinox of date

Hours 6

Minutes 39

Seconds 59

Apparent Declination at Equinox of date

Degrees 23

Minutes 6

Seconds 55



Right Ascension (J2000.0)

Hours 6

Minutes 39

Seconds 0

Declination (J2000.0)

Degrees 23

Minutes 7

Seconds 50





Altitude (degrees) 9.60

Azimuth (degrees, 0 North) 68.14

[link to dropcanvas.com]



Now, to find out if the sun's where it should be, let's look back at one of the earlier images from the evening where the stars were visible. Here's an image from 4 hours earlier:

[link to h.dropcanvas.com]

4 hours of mean solar time is equivalent about 0.1662115967 sidereal days. That means, given the sun's J2000 coordinates of 6h 39m 0s, +23d 7' 50", it should correspond to a spot in the sky 4 hours earlier with the coordinates 2h 39m 39.32s, +23d 7' 50". Labeling that spot in the image shows that is indeed where the sun rose from behind a tree that morning.

:srosunrise630:

Here's a better idea, take pictures from a fixed perspective at day and again at night and use the stars to compare the sun's position to its expected position...For example, here's a timelapse from an all-sky camera at the Sierra Remote Observatory:Here's an image from that webcam showing sunrise on the 30th:Using my spreadsheet based on Newcomb's equations, here are the expected coordinates of the sun at that time:Year 2016month 6day 30hour (UT) 13minute 39second 0W Longitude (Decimal deg) 119.4Latitude (Decimal deg) (N+, S-) 37.07Height above sea level (meters) 1405Pressure (mb) 1013.25Temperature (Centigrade) 25Solar CoordinatesApparent Right Ascension at Equinox of dateHours 6Minutes 39Seconds 59Apparent Declination at Equinox of dateDegrees 23Minutes 6Seconds 55Right Ascension (J2000.0)Hours 6Minutes 39Seconds 0Declination (J2000.0)Degrees 23Minutes 7Seconds 50Altitude (degrees) 9.60Azimuth (degrees, 0 North) 68.14Now, to find out if the sun's where it should be, let's look back at one of the earlier images from the evening where the stars were visible. Here's an image from 4 hours earlier:4 hours of mean solar time is equivalent about 0.1662115967 sidereal days. That means, given the sun's J2000 coordinates of 6h 39m 0s, +23d 7' 50", it should correspond to a spot in the sky 4 hours earlier with the coordinates 2h 39m 39.32s, +23d 7' 50". Labeling that spot in the image shows that is indeed where the sun rose from behind a tree that morning.:srosunrise630: Quoting: Dr. Astro





The sun is rising exactly where it should.

No it isn't. It's called the seasons, it's normal, learn what causes seasonal variation...The sun is rising exactly where it should.

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07/02/2016 11:23 AM

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This has me FREAKED THE FUCK OUT.





I saw the moon during THE DAY TIME.This has me FREAKED THE FUCK OUT. Quoting: Troller Durden



is that not normal? On my side of the world it happens.. is that not normal? On my side of the world it happens..

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The bots will be in any second to call you a tard, but you're right - the planet has moved. Might even be why they're trying so hard to sell 'climate change' and chemtrailing the shit out of us. Who knows? They'll never tell the truth.

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07/02/2016 11:43 AM

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That's funny. I learned it in public schools so it must be true...

Thanks for making me laugh this mornin. That's funny. I learned it in public schools so it must be true...Thanks for making me laugh this mornin.

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07/02/2016 11:53 AM



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That's funny. I learned it in public schools so it must be true...

Thanks for making me laugh this mornin.

That's funny. I learned it in public schools so it must be true...Thanks for making me laugh this mornin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72115598



That's funny. They teach it in public school so it must not be true. Thanks for the laugh this morning. By the way genius, you should probably check out Simon newcomb's tables of the Sun. You don't have to have blind faith in public schools to understand these concepts, which predate the existence of NASA.



Last Edited by Astromut on 07/02/2016 11:54 AM

That's funny. They teach it in public school so it must not be true. Thanks for the laugh this morning. By the way genius, you should probably check out Simon newcomb's tables of the Sun. You don't have to have blind faith in public schools to understand these concepts, which predate the existence of NASA.

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07/02/2016 12:14 PM

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I won't. Thinned skinned, product of a society that is ruined by political correctness, and pussified to the point of if you offend me I'll bring suit.



Public School system is a joke, that's my opinion.

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07/02/2016 12:28 PM

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We all know the truth but I still come to these threads just to see how ling it takes the fuckwad to take it over and troll people.



The sun is rising and setting different than it use to, fuck astromut.

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07/02/2016 12:47 PM

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