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Member Back to Top Post by garunixreborn on Someone on his survey video (whose name I will not share) joined in on Disco Dmann's comment thread, saying:



"Just admit, Adrian. War Robots is sponsoring you. You are payed to say this crap. Why not be honest with you audience? This new Economy is a bad idea. The fact that you're trying to convince us that these changes are good, people just don't know what's happening in Champs. The thing is, you don't have to be an idiot to know that the big dogs are spending Hundreds of dollars just to keep up. Modules, good idea, but they executed it horribly. All it is for is to give the newest Bots a huge boost. Also, when new content comes out, you're quick to give us max gameplay on it, but you don't tell us how long or how much it would be to upgrade.﻿"



Adrian doesn't like this, and so he snaps, and murders everyone who thought of him as a puppet, replying with this:



"Below is my response to another viewer - the same applies to your comment. btw, I am not paid to say only what Pixonic wants me to say. If this was true then I would have to make a disclaimer both in the video and in the video description. I also find it interesting how much of what you have mentioned in your comment I addressed in the video. Regarding your question about only commenting with "strong words". Many have asked me why am I not negative on this game. I think players misunderstand how I communicate my views. This is just my impression from viewers but in order for something to be communicated "negatively", I need to degrade the person/company on the receiving end. This is NOT the way I communicate. If you watch in my videos or live streams, I have clearly said that they need to address the economy. I have CLEARLY said that they need to adjust the conversion for Workshop etc because the way that it is now is terrible. Even my stand on modules - I have CLEARLY said that I am not in agreement with some of the modules. For example Lock Down Ammo and Quantum Radar should not have made it's way onto the live server. It's not too late to remove it since it's an Active Module that is applied to all of the bots which carry Active Modules. I don't agree with Last Stand being available to all bots though. I think that module should only be available to the older/weaker robots. There is ONE thing that I do like about modules but this has nothing to do with their abilities - it's the idea of moving it from one bot to another. This means that I don't heavily invest into a bot only to have it fall out of the meta a few months from now. Instead I can invest in weapons and modules which allows me to adapt faster when changes happen. Getting back to your original point though because I noticed you have mentioned match making. I believe in my "State Of The Game" video I mentioned that one of the things that "bug me" is the match making and it's something I have been mentioned to Pixonic. Whenever you see me say things like "this bugs me" or "I am not in favour of" or "I am not a fan of", just change those words to degrading words and you'll have what many want me to say. When I deal with a mature audience or a company I never use degrading language especially if I want change to happen. Imagine if you're dealing with a client in the real world and you don't agree with their point-of-view. I HIGHLY DOUBT you will call them an "idiot" in their face and expect them to change things."



I hope this cleared things up with Adrian and his views, and shows just how toxic the community has become. Please remember, Adrian is a human just like the rest of us, and he is allowed to hold his opinions, while also being allowed to be criticised and debated with, just like everyone else. But throwing insults and harassing him is NOT OK. Nobody should be harassed for having an opinion.

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Member Back to Top Post by Ravager on garunixreborn said:



"Just admit, Adrian. War Robots is sponsoring you. You are payed to say this crap. Why not be honest with you audience? This new Economy is a bad idea. The fact that you're trying to convince us that these changes are good, people just don't know what's happening in Champs. The thing is, you don't have to be an idiot to know that the big dogs are spending Hundreds of dollars just to keep up. Modules, good idea, but they executed it horribly. All it is for is to give the newest Bots a huge boost. Also, when new content comes out, you're quick to give us max gameplay on it, but you don't tell us how long or how much it would be to upgrade.﻿"



Adrian doesn't like this, and so he snaps, and murders everyone who thought of him as a puppet, replying with this:



"Below is my response to another viewer - the same applies to your comment. btw, I am not paid to say only what Pixonic wants me to say. If this was true then I would have to make a disclaimer both in the video and in the video description. I also find it interesting how much of what you have mentioned in your comment I addressed in the video. Regarding your question about only commenting with "strong words". Many have asked me why am I not negative on this game. I think players misunderstand how I communicate my views. This is just my impression from viewers but in order for something to be communicated "negatively", I need to degrade the person/company on the receiving end. This is NOT the way I communicate. If you watch in my videos or live streams, I have clearly said that they need to address the economy. I have CLEARLY said that they need to adjust the conversion for Workshop etc because the way that it is now is terrible. Even my stand on modules - I have CLEARLY said that I am not in agreement with some of the modules. For example Lock Down Ammo and Quantum Radar should not have made it's way onto the live server. It's not too late to remove it since it's an Active Module that is applied to all of the bots which carry Active Modules. I don't agree with Last Stand being available to all bots though. I think that module should only be available to the older/weaker robots. There is ONE thing that I do like about modules but this has nothing to do with their abilities - it's the idea of moving it from one bot to another. This means that I don't heavily invest into a bot only to have it fall out of the meta a few months from now. Instead I can invest in weapons and modules which allows me to adapt faster when changes happen. Getting back to your original point though because I noticed you have mentioned match making. I believe in my "State Of The Game" video I mentioned that one of the things that "bug me" is the match making and it's something I have been mentioned to Pixonic. Whenever you see me say things like "this bugs me" or "I am not in favour of" or "I am not a fan of", just change those words to degrading words and you'll have what many want me to say. When I deal with a mature audience or a company I never use degrading language especially if I want change to happen. Imagine if you're dealing with a client in the real world and you don't agree with their point-of-view. I HIGHLY DOUBT you will call them an "idiot" in their face and expect them to change things."



I hope this cleared things up with Adrian and his views, and shows just how toxic the community has become. Please remember, Adrian is a human just like the rest of us, and he is allowed to hold his opinions, while also being allowed to be criticised and debated with, just like everyone else. But throwing insults and harassing him is NOT OK. Nobody should be harassed for having an opinion. Someone on his survey video (whose name I will not share) joined in on Disco Dmann's comment thread, saying:Adrian doesn't like this, and so he snaps, and murders everyone who thought of him as a puppet, replying with this:I hope this cleared things up with Adrian and his views, and shows just how toxic the community has become. Please remember, Adrian is a human just like the rest of us, and he is allowed to hold his opinions, while also being allowed to be criticised and debated with, just like everyone else. But throwing insults and harassing him is NOT OK. Nobody should be harassed for having an opinion.

I agree with everything Adrian said, BUT I also agree with one point that the original commenter had pointed out - Youtubers show only maxed out mk2 level 12 stuff, and also NEVER mention the costs and time associated with acquiring and upgrading the bot. Remember , everyone cannot mk2 level 12 a bot, and not mentioning the time and costs is a bit misleading, Though I strictly maintain that all other comments of the original were indeed an un necessary and toxic attack , but I agree with only this point of his/her. I agree with everything Adrian said, BUT I also agree with one point that the original commenter had pointed out - Youtubers show only maxed out mk2 level 12 stuff, and also NEVER mention the costs and time associated with acquiring and upgrading the bot. Remember , everyone cannot mk2 level 12 a bot, and not mentioning the time and costs is a bit misleading, Though I strictly maintain that all other comments of the original were indeed an un necessary and toxic attack , but I agree with only this point of his/her.

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Member Back to Top Post by zer00eyz on garunixreborn said: " Imagine if you're dealing with a client in the real world and you don't agree with their point-of-view. I HIGHLY DOUBT you will call them an "idiot" in their face and expect them to change things."







Lets change a word in that quote, lets change the word "client" to "customer" -- it is a pretty good summary of how pix treats its customers in many cases.



How about we change that word again, this time we use the word "boss", or better yet "owner".



Without pix, without War Robots does Adrian have a youtube channel? Does any smart person bite the hand that feeds them?



Would Adrian, or Mannie be able to make videos, or money off of youtube without the pix sponsored (battle rec) account? If they piss of pix would they be allowed to continue to have that account? Some back of the napkin math says Adrian made anywhere from $500 to $7000 in the month of December off of his youtube account. (Note: the large variance in the numbers is due to how youtube actually pays out, the only person who knows this number is Adrian and youtube TOS prevents him from discussing it)



This is the very definition of the word shill: "an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others." Any youtube that profits from their channel that is exclusively about war robots is beholden to pix for that money -- they will NEVER speak the truth because it is NOT in their best interest to do so.









Lets change a word in that quote, lets change the word "client" to "customer" -- it is a pretty good summary of how pix treats its customers in many cases.How about we change that word again, this time we use the word "boss", or better yet "owner".Without pix, without War Robots does Adrian have a youtube channel? Does any smart person bite the hand that feeds them?Would Adrian, or Mannie be able to make videos, or money off of youtube without the pix sponsored (battle rec) account? If they piss of pix would they be allowed to continue to have that account? Some back of the napkin math says Adrian made anywhere from $500 to $7000 in the month of December off of his youtube account. (Note: the large variance in the numbers is due to how youtube actually pays out, the only person who knows this number is Adrian and youtube TOS prevents him from discussing it)This is the very definition of the word shill: "an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others." Any youtube that profits from their channel that is exclusively about war robots is beholden to pix for that money -- they will NEVER speak the truth because it is NOT in their best interest to do so.

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Member Back to Top Post by d3stro on garunixreborn said: “Imagine if you're dealing with a client in the real world and you don't agree with their point-of-view. I HIGHLY DOUBT you will call them an "idiot" in their face and expect them to change things."



Yeap. It is true in every business in the world.



In fact it happens everyday in my office.

Sometimes you just wish to throw a bunch of !!@#$% to your clients and smack their heads...

However, in reality you should not do that unless you wish to find the quickest exit door out from your company.

So in the end, we will try the polite ways to deal with every party.....such as below :



Hope this helps.

Actual : Just stop bothering me.



I see your point.

Actual : You can express your opinion but i give zero fxxk



As stated below.

Actual : You need to read the entire message chain, not just the top 2 line because your dumb question has already been answered.



Moving forward.

Actual : Stop wasting my time and just let it go already.



Let me clarify.

Actual : You completely misunderstood my last message, you idiot.



Thanks in advance.

Actual : I'm already thanking you for doing me this favor even you haven't yet agreed. Therefore you must do it.



Kind regards.



Actual : Fxxk you.









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He's got game. I've watched him play with an economy of motion around terrain, leveraging battlefield conditions, and producing decent content. Obviously the paid side of War Robots is for paying players. If you can't pay to play, don't play; if you can pay to play, don't tank for target practice. What else is there? I followed Adrian's recommendations and after 1 year and appx. 500 USD and wasting a lot of funds on novelty bots and earlier meta, this is my hangar. I'm leveling off at 10/10 meta when I hit Champions League, then calling it quits.

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Member Back to Top Post by Deleted on Ultimately it is impossible to determine whether Adrian should be receiving criticism or not. If he sold his opinions to Pix as being representative of the community as a whole when he visited Russia then he deserves a heap of scorn. If he went there and said these are only my opinions and other people have different views then he should be left alone; everyone is entitled to their own personal opinions. Only Adrian and Pix know the answer to that one. This “get a bot 3x faster but take 3x more Ag and 3x more time to upgrade” was championed by Adrian (you can find a thread on here where Adrian discusses this) has been a disaster to new players and to the game as a whole. If he sold this as being something everyone wanted, well....

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Member Back to Top Post by Koalabear on I don't agree with everything that Adriann says nor the way he says it. But, at the end of the day, it is his opinion and kudos to him for trying to stay positive. I do wish he would be more upfront about some things, but at the same time, it's not up to him to tell us about excruciating upgrade times and such. Anyone with eyes can see for themselves either in game or on the wiki or even here.



Guys, please remember, it's just a game and no matter how angry we get sometimes, we can't project our own negativity onto others, nor can we expect that everyone will share our negativity. Keep in mind too that no matter how badly Pix/Mail.ru has screwed up the game, at it's core, it's still a fun game most of the time.



Like most, I've had my frustrations with the game and how it's progressed. But, I've come to the conclusion that it's just not worth it.

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Member Back to Top Post by killmall420 on I watched most of his videos for the most part there very good good tips how to run your bots but I must agree he makes it seam lvl 12m2 everyone can get to like that as we know that not true and what drives me nuts is buy the time you get a new bot or weapon to say lvl 10 after all that time and work it's no longer any good new bots a weapons are out kicking it's butt yes pix need money to run I get it can't under stand why they don't drop all there pricing to say 9.99 for a bot or weapon they would sell so much more make way more money because more player would buy them I think most of us would be happy to see a great price but 50.00 99.99 for silver bot weapons or gold not going to happen here I have a life and this is just a game remember that and you be fine and have fun

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Member Back to Top Post by iFail on Alright guys, come on. I know I'm likely gonna get a massive paragraph in response arguing my point for this one, but for God's sake drop this.



He explained what he thinks. Don't go defending the person who sent him the question(/accusation).



I actually have high respect for him now because of this response. It was well-written.



I don't care what you THINK HE MEANT or what you THINK ABOUT HIM AND HIS OPINION, the man defended himself in a respectable and seemingly genuine manner.



Just leave the topic alone now and find something else to complain about. Despite being a positive person I tend to agree with a lot of negative viewpoints about the game, but to me most of the responses in this thread take it too far.



If you don't like Adrian at least respect him for that response.



Be decent.



Thank you to those that at least provided a little bit of a positive reaction to Adrian's message.

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Member Back to Top Post by Loganspawn on Ravager said: garunixreborn said:



"Just admit, Adrian. War Robots is sponsoring you. You are payed to say this crap. Why not be honest with you audience? This new Economy is a bad idea. The fact that you're trying to convince us that these changes are good, people just don't know what's happening in Champs. The thing is, you don't have to be an idiot to know that the big dogs are spending Hundreds of dollars just to keep up. Modules, good idea, but they executed it horribly. All it is for is to give the newest Bots a huge boost. Also, when new content comes out, you're quick to give us max gameplay on it, but you don't tell us how long or how much it would be to upgrade.﻿"



Adrian doesn't like this, and so he snaps, and murders everyone who thought of him as a puppet, replying with this:



"Below is my response to another viewer - the same applies to your comment. btw, I am not paid to say only what Pixonic wants me to say. If this was true then I would have to make a disclaimer both in the video and in the video description. I also find it interesting how much of what you have mentioned in your comment I addressed in the video. Regarding your question about only commenting with "strong words". Many have asked me why am I not negative on this game. I think players misunderstand how I communicate my views. This is just my impression from viewers but in order for something to be communicated "negatively", I need to degrade the person/company on the receiving end. This is NOT the way I communicate. If you watch in my videos or live streams, I have clearly said that they need to address the economy. I have CLEARLY said that they need to adjust the conversion for Workshop etc because the way that it is now is terrible. Even my stand on modules - I have CLEARLY said that I am not in agreement with some of the modules. For example Lock Down Ammo and Quantum Radar should not have made it's way onto the live server. It's not too late to remove it since it's an Active Module that is applied to all of the bots which carry Active Modules. I don't agree with Last Stand being available to all bots though. I think that module should only be available to the older/weaker robots. There is ONE thing that I do like about modules but this has nothing to do with their abilities - it's the idea of moving it from one bot to another. This means that I don't heavily invest into a bot only to have it fall out of the meta a few months from now. Instead I can invest in weapons and modules which allows me to adapt faster when changes happen. Getting back to your original point though because I noticed you have mentioned match making. I believe in my "State Of The Game" video I mentioned that one of the things that "bug me" is the match making and it's something I have been mentioned to Pixonic. Whenever you see me say things like "this bugs me" or "I am not in favour of" or "I am not a fan of", just change those words to degrading words and you'll have what many want me to say. When I deal with a mature audience or a company I never use degrading language especially if I want change to happen. Imagine if you're dealing with a client in the real world and you don't agree with their point-of-view. I HIGHLY DOUBT you will call them an "idiot" in their face and expect them to change things."



I hope this cleared things up with Adrian and his views, and shows just how toxic the community has become. Please remember, Adrian is a human just like the rest of us, and he is allowed to hold his opinions, while also being allowed to be criticised and debated with, just like everyone else. But throwing insults and harassing him is NOT OK. Nobody should be harassed for having an opinion. Someone on his survey video (whose name I will not share) joined in on Disco Dmann's comment thread, saying:Adrian doesn't like this, and so he snaps, and murders everyone who thought of him as a puppet, replying with this:I hope this cleared things up with Adrian and his views, and shows just how toxic the community has become. Please remember, Adrian is a human just like the rest of us, and he is allowed to hold his opinions, while also being allowed to be criticised and debated with, just like everyone else. But throwing insults and harassing him is NOT OK. Nobody should be harassed for having an opinion. I agree with everything Adrian said, BUT I also agree with one point that the original commenter had pointed out - Youtubers show only maxed out mk2 level 12 stuff, and also NEVER mention the costs and time associated with acquiring and upgrading the bot. Remember , everyone cannot mk2 level 12 a bot, and not mentioning the time and costs is a bit misleading, Though I strictly maintain that all other comments of the original were indeed an un necessary and toxic attack , but I agree with only this point of his/her. show only maxed out mk2 level 12 stuff, and also NEVER mention the costs and time associated with acquiring and upgrading the bot.



Really? Then why do I see Adrian running his own account most the time without all the newest gear? Also why do I see him playing his newer Android low level account? And discussing how long the items take to get? You really dont watch him do you.......... I stop listening when I hear BS "Youtubersmaxed out mk2 level 12 stuff, and also NEVER mention the costs and time associated with acquiring and upgrading the bot.Really?Then why do I see Adrian running his own account most the time without all the newest gear? Also why do I see him playing his newer Android low level account? And discussing how long the items take to get? You really dont watch him do you..........

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"War Robot Forum Community,



There is a concern among the admins and mods about threads focused on certain Youtubers. Frequently, they degrade into “flaming” of the Youtubers personally with personal attacks and other abusive comments. Though such threads are just as much part of the life and conversation of this community as any other subject, we would like to remind everyone that individually, Youtubers are people too. Policies regarding “flaming”, abusive language and personal attacks apply to them as much as any other member or contributor to this forum, regardless if they themselves are members and contributors to this forum. They are part of the greater War Robot community and their celebrity status does not grant anyone license to violate our policies regarding conduct on this forum.



As many of us have made hostile comments concerning Pixonic, as long as the comments are focused at the institution, that is believed to be acceptable behavior. (May not necessarily be liked or appreciated by some but accepted.) But once the hostilities moves to single out an individual, we have crossed into the unacceptable. Negative comments concerning Youtubers, as a collective, will be tolerated. But again, once an individual is singled out and is “flamed”, action, within the authority of the admins and mods, will be taken to curb such activity.



Thank you for your cooperation.

Divine Thunder"



Read more: Also lets keep in mind"War Robot Forum Community,There is a concern among the admins and mods about threads focused on certain Youtubers. Frequently, they degrade into “flaming” of the Youtubers personally with personal attacks and other abusive comments. Though such threads are just as much part of the life and conversation of this community as any other subject, we would like to remind everyone that individually, Youtubers are people too. Policies regarding “flaming”, abusive language and personal attacks apply to them as much as any other member or contributor to this forum, regardless if they themselves are members and contributors to this forum. They are part of the greater War Robot community and their celebrity status does not grant anyone license to violate our policies regarding conduct on this forum.As many of us have made hostile comments concerning Pixonic, as long as the comments are focused at the institution, that is believed to be acceptable behavior. (May not necessarily be liked or appreciated by some but accepted.) But once the hostilities moves to single out an individual, we have crossed into the unacceptable. Negative comments concerning Youtubers, as a collective, will be tolerated. But again, once an individual is singled out and is “flamed”, action, within the authority of the admins and mods, will be taken to curb such activity.Thank you for your cooperation.Divine Thunder"Read more: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/26779/youtubers#ixzz5c7r2KkLJ

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Member Back to Top Post by linearblade on If Adrian is a shill, At least he’s really good at the game he shills for.



As for him playing only maxed weapons. So what? So do I? He’s played more than I have, and I don’t want to know what a half assed weapon does. I wa t to know what full maxed weapon does





As for his views. Honestly I’m a bit with Phoenix on this one. It’s over the top stupid st the moment. And I don’t see how any rational being could see it otherwise.



But I don’t think he’s the one to take it out on. We should all strive not to sound like Jim Acosta. Because that’s no way to go about life.



If he was, I would not save my foul mouth 1 bit. He’s not tho. He’s just a dude who makes more enjoyable game vids than manni. Because he can play and doesn’t talk so much