General game issues

abandoned vehicles feature is too random and has such a big impact on the rest of the game. It happens way too often aswell.



PTRS destroying team weapons





Heavy/destroyed engine crits, main gun destroyed crits on tanks with just a sliver of health left occur way too often. It feels like a tank has 3 extra lifes with that. Here is the best example:









Mines. You can say whatever you want but mines either wipe a whole squad or kill just a model of it, depending on how clumped up your squad is (possible Solution here). Too much RNG involved aswell. What about a more spread formations while units are out of cover.



Opening the tactical map comes with a slight delay (especially if you open it for the first time)



30 munitions abilities like mines, panzerfaust, etc. should not cause heavy engine crits! Tellermines, Riegels and such are fine with me.



cause heavy engine crits! Tellermines, Riegels and such are fine with me. I haven't really had the chance of trying out the new perfomance fixes but I hope that these freezes + fast forwards are gone.



are gone. OKW: we all know the problems with this faction (manpower spam, no support weapons, just basic infantry with shrecks + blobberino and vet 5 system) and it has been discussed 20times over so I just refer to this thread and this one and lastely my own contribution to the discussion.



Rifle Company: Flamer upgrade for Rilemen + Vet is just wrong.



Company of Callins. Just a reminder. Possible solution here.



The whole ISU, Elephant and Jagdtiger story is really getting old by now. You can change them as many times as you want, but in the end every teamgame (and 1v1 latey) it will always come down to them. Haven't played a single teamgame without them yet. Really stale meta and I'd rather see them beeing removed. And with the release of WFA and the introduction of the Jagdtiger, something tells me that Relic doesn't realize what the issue with those super-long-ranged units is. Especially the ISU sniping whole infantry squads as well as tanks.



After units leave cover they bunch up for a brief moment that they are nearly standing in each other which makes dodging nades even harder



All this squadwipe potentional . I like how my units are set up behind cover, but they have to leave this formation on open ground and spread out a bit more!



. I like how my units are set up behind cover, but they have to leave this formation on open ground and spread out a bit more! I'd like to see received accuracy vet modifiers to be removed, since infantry combat in the lategame with vetted squads is just about A moving and not about positioning.



vet modifiers to be removed, since infantry combat in the lategame with vetted squads is just about A moving and not about positioning. USF Flamer upgrades exploding all the time. On the other hand Flamer penals won't explode at all, where's the logic in that? The whole Flamer explosion thing is too much RNG aswell (it can either exlode right when the upgrade is done or later) Best Example:









AT weapons sniping infantry : Happens way too often. It's not unsusual seeing his own sniper beeing countersniped by an AT gun or Bazookas/panzershrecks killing several models of a squad. This needs to be reduced.



: Happens way too often. It's not unsusual seeing his own sniper beeing countersniped by an AT gun or Bazookas/panzershrecks killing several models of a squad. This needs to be reduced. Side and Rear armor too much armor : Please reduce the side and Rear armor of tanks, especially of the super heavy ones, so flanking actually is rewarded.



: Please reduce the side and Rear armor of tanks, especially of the super heavy ones, so flanking actually is rewarded. Support weapons bunching up : Support weapons bunching up next to cover like crazy, making them easy targets for grenades and such. I'd rather not give support weapons the new cover alignment profile, I prefer the way it used to be.



: Support weapons bunching up next to cover like crazy, making them easy targets for grenades and such. I'd rather not give support weapons the new cover alignment profile, I prefer the way it used to be. Speaking of cover alignment : You can't even move to the edges of capping circles without your units jumping out of it for the sake of going to nearby cover. Very annoying indeed.



: You can't even move to the edges of capping circles without your units jumping out of it for the sake of going to nearby cover. Very annoying indeed. Repair vehicle crit : This ability needs to be reworked because it can completely negate a Tellermine within seconds.



: This ability needs to be reworked because it can completely negate a Tellermine within seconds. canister shot, guaranteed oneshot ability.



RNG planes crashing and killing whole armies:









OKW Flak emplacement completely making recon runs useless, base defenses too strong, FLAK HQ taking on T34 with ease.



Attack ground on undulating maps often doesn't work because shots are always hitting the ground.



Bug issues

Queuing orders with shift don't work properly sometimes



Grenade abilities, especially the Rifle Grenade doesn't work properly. The ability triggers, but the Grenade will never come out.



Another thing with Grenades is, that sometimes the model who's about to throw it is reloading. This means that the Grenade is delayed by 1-2 seconds. Pls make it more reliable so if you order to throw a grenade, it triggers instantly.



Dead bodies (not crawlers) giving line of sight



Last but not least, I'd like to address the change that when throwing a Grenade, the whole squad stops instead of just the model who's about to throw it. That changed with some update, I prefered the previous way to do it.



They worked on the pathing algorithms in the previous patch . I haven't really had the chance to test it, but I had serious pathing issues on Minsk Pocket, and with territory points in the middle of roads.



Other things: Raketenwerfers stuck in buildings, Paks that won't set up properly on shattered ground (same goes for howitzers who won't fire at all).



Infantry Company LMG equipped squads can use Defensive stance while assaulting



USF mortar HT is bugged (not facing opponent while firing, sometimes not firing at all, phosphorus not working - firing regular rounds instead)



251 HT has no muzzle flash / firing animation



Smoke dissappears (I realized it with shocktroop smoke grenades, not sure about similar abilites) when scrolling away from the point of action and returning to it afterwards. It just blocks line of sight but it looks totally awkward without the smoke.



Units (e.g. Grenadiers with panzerfaust) still stuck on the animation while retreating



Units not getting into house properly, they stand right in front of it sometimes but only go in if you order them again. This issue might need further investigation and confirmation.



Retreating units stuck at HQ , need 5 extra seconds to actually stop retreating



, need 5 extra seconds to actually stop retreating [ u]CRAWLERS: This bug is gamebreaking. Units (especially on retreat) are getting stuck on crawling entities on the ground.

has been fixed, but still nonretreating units can get stuck on crawlers and wait till they move out of the way



has been fixed, but still nonretreating units can get stuck on crawlers and wait till they move out of the way The model of the LMG upgrade for Grens is bugged.



USF Pak howitzer coded as a vehicle, which means that it can be destroyed by AT weapons and gets decrewed with still 3 members on it



Guard squad running around before before actually shooting



Vehicles disturb support weapons like HMGs from setting up which lead to complete diffrent set ups as intented



Tellermines (or mines in general) sometimes still has no effect on target





Sometimes you can't enter houses if an enemy was in there before



USF Bulletins Stacking for vehicles FIXED 11. Dec









Bulletin stacking for the Stuart







AT Weapons no longer have green cover. They can have red cover if they are on the road now.



Capture orders + retreat getting interrupted by suppresion, results in instant retreat.



FlakHT, HMG squads should reload when beeing out of combat. That would avoid awkward situitons where they just shoot one round and reload afterwards in battle..



Panzerfaust firing animation: Panzerfaust goes off 1 second after the animation is done. This is especially crucial if you want to retreat your squaud right away after the panzerfaust went off.



After match faceplates showing neither commander nor bulletins FIXED 11. Dec



Revealed mines are still revealed even after the minesweeper squad that detected it is gone.



OKW Flakhq shooting outside its range, same goes for the P47 Strafe



Map issues

I stated my point of view about map balance here already: Map improvement poll



Looking foward to the maps that the Rewind team made!



Questionable issues

Ambush Camouflage, Counter Barrage



Vehicle Crew SMG upgrade.



Howitzers (B4 excluded)



German T4: It's just to expensive in 1v1s and the reward for teching up so far is minimal. In theory, that T4 would go well with a command tank doctrine, but it just doesn't work like that. I would prefer if T3,T4 would cost the same while mixing up the units in those tiers to open up new strategies. In vCoH both T3 and T4 seemed to be viable options, in CoH2 it's either T3 or Call ins (or both).



PPSH41 upgrade for Cons



SQUAD SPACING (units stand ontop of each other which leads to easy squad wipes - especially with Ostheer since most of them are 4 man squads) Example





German infantry doctrine, Conscript Support Tactic, NKVD, ...

The problem is with those commanders is that you simply have to rely on you certain tech structure. I prefer going for a fast T34 and wait for an IS2 or ISU152 anytime rather than just beeing stuck with T34 especially if teching up further costs so much.



The problem is with those commanders is that you simply have to rely on you certain tech structure. I prefer going for a fast T34 and wait for an IS2 or ISU152 anytime rather than just beeing stuck with T34 especially if teching up further costs so much. No skins apply to Ostheer Puma



Combat Engineers and Assault Engineers randomly walk away after planting a democharge



Conscripts walk to next sandbag after finishing their own



One way doors - some doors allow access to a building but no exit



Soviet/Ostheer battle chatter gone



Squads loose the icon when they are about to enter a building which just got destroyed



SU76, Brummbar, German Sniper, Stuart (The german snipers goes down by just one volley of conscripts, meanwhile it takes several grens to focus down a soviet sniper team..), StuG (give it a dedicated AT role with more sight and frontal armor), Jagdpanzer, SU85, Flamer HT, infantry support gun, Artillery officer (why spend tons of munitions for focus fire if can get LMGs which are ten times better), ..



units getting supressed in heavy cover



Incomplete wire, sandbags, .. blocking vehicle pathing and are to sturdy to take out.



Sniper stun round way to expensive for what it does.



Units getting stuck between sandbag and wire



Units getting green cover even with one side beeing wired off. (Volk sandbags + reinforced wire Screenshot)



Initial Sturmpio squad getting stuck at the HQ in the beginning of the game.



You have a hard time dodging grenades when you are in cover because the moment you leave the cover the whole squads bunches up like crazy, which leads into some easy squadwipes.



support weapons should have the new cover alignment profile



Unable to garrison the buildings due to crawlers next to it Proof



in-game leaderboards



make LMGs excell at mid to long range to prevent A-moving



aims for the future? what about those announcement with the partnership with the ESL that was going to happen later this year?



Pay2win DLC Commanders in automath



Spawning positions should be always closer to the middle of the map, not the one in the back of the base because you always have to walk that extra mile (in 1v1 at least)



The question about RNG should be: What can I do as a player to prevent a certain thing to happen rather then just letting an random event do it for you. If a player makes a mistake it's okay, but if a random event screws up things for you that leads to frusttration.

The thing is Relic gotta decide what there game is gonna be. I mean, abondoned vehicles, planes falling of the sky, beefy tanks like the ISU and the Jagdtiger are all beautiful to watch, but in terms of balance / competitive play they are a mess. I want clear conditions in that regard.



The thing is Relic gotta decide what there game is gonna be. I mean, abondoned vehicles, planes falling of the sky, beefy tanks like the ISU and the Jagdtiger are all beautiful to watch, but in terms of balance / competitive play they are a mess. I want clear conditions in that regard. 222, USF AA HT, PTRS, ... need attack ground to counter smoke, mines



Reverse speed for vehicles too high



Ostheer Pioneers have a high manpower upkeep compared to combat engineers, they could use a slight dps buff since they only harm the enemy if they are in hugging range



Remove the timer for self-destruct mode for OKW trucks



models turning so slowly when targeting a squad that it is quicker to move them in the direction you want them



For the lack of better words I'm just naming this thread like that. Anyway, I've been making a list of things that really annoy me since the last patch and I'd like to share, the list is a mess by now, but I try to give it some order. It's about general balance, bugs, performance and other issues. So without further ado let's get into it.Some basic game mechanics are just so. Especially in a RTS you expect your units to do exactly as they are told or otherwise it can get very frusttrating. These things need to be more reliable because often they can change the tide of a game. At this point I like to mention the Community Issue Tracker which covers most of my bugs.There are tons of underused abilities and commanders that are rarely or never seen on the field. Rather than releasing new content, I'd like to see those particular things reworked. As a result we should have more diversity. The main problem is that some abilites are just significantly better than others, and you get punished for not going for them.