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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:10 pm Post subject: Fertility meds + baby #11



wtf?!

why would a woman keep taking fertility meds after the first batch of kids?!

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Yeah for Serendipity wtf?!why would a woman keep taking fertility meds after the first batch of kids?!_________________I can't make eye contact and i don't know why!Chasing excess wealth is a dependency? If so, why do I keep doing it?

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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:37 pm Post subject:

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: Order medicine online that requires no perscription real smart idea there. Hope it turns out to be something that is safe. Also unless this woman and/or her husband make allot of money there is no way they can pay for all of those kids.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:36 am Post subject: ShilohLongLegs wrote: I mean as long as she can support them and afford all of the things they need and be a good, loving parent, whatever floats her boat, right?



We don't know that she can afford them.



The kids are the ones who will suffer. Splitting your love, time and attention between so many children is a tall order, someone's going to miss out.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: The card indicates to me that she is taking them without her husband's

knowledge. That leads me to believe that this woman has some kind

of mental disorder.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:12 am Post subject: Unknownface wrote: ShilohLongLegs wrote: I mean as long as she can support them and afford all of the things they need and be a good, loving parent, whatever floats her boat, right?



We don't know that she can afford them.



The kids are the ones who will suffer. Splitting your love, time and attention between so many children is a tall order, someone's going to miss out.



This is how I feel.



I'm totally that asshole that thinks it's incredibly selfish to have lots of kids. It's kind of selfish to have any kids (naturally), but I feel like it gets worse as the number goes up.

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thoughts This is how I feel.I'm totally that asshole that thinks it's incredibly selfish to have lots of kids. It's kind of selfish to have any kids (naturally), but I feel like it gets worse as the number goes up._________________ ask (answers in thought thread)

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:13 am Post subject: glmmlg56 wrote: The card indicates to me that she is taking them without her husband's

knowledge. That leads me to believe that this woman has some kind

of mental disorder.



I thought the same thing.



I'm guessing he doesn't care, since they clearly aren't taking precautions against pregnancy. But it still seems kind of fucked up to do something like this without the husband's knowledge.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: Unknownface wrote: ShilohLongLegs wrote: I mean as long as she can support them and afford all of the things they need and be a good, loving parent, whatever floats her boat, right?



We don't know that she can afford them.



The kids are the ones who will suffer. Splitting your love, time and attention between so many children is a tall order, someone's going to miss out.



Not necessarily. I know plenty of big families whose kids don't feel neglected because they have more than a couple siblings.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:39 am Post subject: Shadow Phoenix wrote: Unknownface wrote: ShilohLongLegs wrote: I mean as long as she can support them and afford all of the things they need and be a good, loving parent, whatever floats her boat, right?



We don't know that she can afford them.



The kids are the ones who will suffer. Splitting your love, time and attention between so many children is a tall order, someone's going to miss out.



This is how I feel.



I'm totally that asshole that thinks it's incredibly selfish to have lots of kids. It's kind of selfish to have any kids (naturally), but I feel like it gets worse as the number goes up.



I find it more self-serving to have no children whatsoever. This is really damn expensive and time-consuming! If I hadn't gotten married and hadn't had a kid, health insurance wouldn't cost nearly as much and one of us could probably be on government assistance, and we could be saving so much money for our futures. As is, we're splitting money and time between three people.



I mean, we have friends in similar situations but whose parents are extraordinarily wealthy and help them out immensely, and they've got two houses and shit like that, but normal people? Nah, it would have been better for us to have no kids.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:55 am Post subject: Nonesuch wrote: Shadow Phoenix wrote: Unknownface wrote: ShilohLongLegs wrote: I mean as long as she can support them and afford all of the things they need and be a good, loving parent, whatever floats her boat, right?



We don't know that she can afford them.



The kids are the ones who will suffer. Splitting your love, time and attention between so many children is a tall order, someone's going to miss out.



This is how I feel.



I'm totally that asshole that thinks it's incredibly selfish to have lots of kids. It's kind of selfish to have any kids (naturally), but I feel like it gets worse as the number goes up.



I find it more self-serving to have no children whatsoever. This is really damn expensive and time-consuming! If I hadn't gotten married and hadn't had a kid, health insurance wouldn't cost nearly as much and one of us could probably be on government assistance, and we could be saving so much money for our futures. As is, we're splitting money and time between three people.



I mean, we have friends in similar situations but whose parents are extraordinarily wealthy and help them out immensely, and they've got two houses and shit like that, but normal people? Nah, it would have been better for us to have no kids.



Just because people have more money/free time doesn't mean they made the selfish decision.



This is how I mean selfish: People have kids because they want to. Parents make lots of selfless decisions for their kids. But the original decision to have them is all about personal desires. Most parents claim their children give their lives meaning, and people crave that kind of connection and happiness.



Plenty of kids are happy in large families, but that still doesn't mean the parents having more kids is in their best interest. The parents want more kids because of the feeling they get from raising them and having a big family. But no one asks the other kids. Because it's not about them. It's about the parents.

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thoughts Just because people have more money/free time doesn't mean they made the selfish decision.This is how I mean selfish: People have kids because theyto. Parents make lots of selfless decisions for their kids. But the original decision to have them is all about personal desires. Most parents claim their children give their lives meaning, and people crave that kind of connection and happiness.Plenty of kids are happy in large families, but that still doesn't mean the parents having more kids is in their best interest. The parents want more kids because of the feeling they get from raising them and having a big family. But no one asks the other kids. Because it's not about them. It's about the parents._________________ ask (answers in thought thread)

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: I find the idea of having lots of children selfish because of overpopulation. Ideally, people should have no children, or one (by people I don't mean everyone, because we do still need a next generation), but I think that two should be the most - you make two children to replace their two parents when the parents die.



Personally I think adoption is also a good idea. I'd like to think that when I'm older I'll adopt instead of having my own, because of overpopulation etc. but I do understand that it's nice for people to have children with their genes.



But having 11 children is selfish to the world, unless they're all adopted. It was fine in the middle ages etc. when half would die before adulthood anyways, and when the world needed to be populated, but I see it now as being selfish.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:21 am Post subject: How are people not focusing on the fact that she's lying to her husband, AND taking illicit prescription medications????? She is completely nutso!

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:04 pm Post subject: Okay, first of all, let me say that I'm an only child and never felt like I had any "competition" for my parents' love. While we certainly weren't rolling in dough, I didn't want for anything. (I guess I just didn't want anything extravagant, unlike today's kids).



Quote: I'm totally that asshole that thinks it's incredibly selfish to have lots of kids.



You are totally NOT an asshole, and here's why. Part of it is what bellatrix_lestrange posted:



Quote: I find the idea of having lots of children selfish because of overpopulation. Ideally, people should have no children, or one (by people I don't mean everyone, because we do still need a next generation), but I think that two should be the most - you make two children to replace their two parents when the parents die.



The last fight I had with my former BFF was just because of this issue. She got married solely because she wanted kids (three, to be exact) and felt she was running out of time, and when I called her on it she started screeching at me about my being childfree and said "If everyone thought like you, we'd all be extinct!" And I said, "And if everyone thought like YOU, we'd triple our population in 20 years and all starve to death. So it's a good thing there are both of us."



Quote: I find it more self-serving to have no children whatsoever.



Ah, I knew it wouldn't be too long before this came up. You know what? If having a shit-load of expendable income, the ability to take an extended vacation in one-hour's notice, having nice clothes that don't constantly reek of baby-puke, maintaining a beautiful lawn without a ton of non-biodegradable kiddie-crap on it, having your hair and nails always looking beautiful, having time to exercise or do yoga, being able to sleep until noon on weekends, being able to stay out until dawn if you want, being able to have nice and expensive things on display in your house and being able to have sex whenever and wherever you want, then, yes, I am the most self-serving person in the whole world. I'm all broken up about it.



Fertility drugs have always worried me, because although they can certainly help someone have the child they'd been struggling to have, it seems like more often than not something goes horribly wrong and they end up having a "litter," in which most of the babies have congenital defects. God only knows what non-prescription fertility meds could do. And I'm sorry, but risking dooming a child to an inferior quality of life just so you could reproduce? That sounds self-serving to me.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:09 pm Post subject:

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:15 pm Post subject: But... How is it that we can state a medical professional shouldn't have any say on if a woman should "interrupt" her pregnancy when the doctor knows about her life (secret: how am I to take that?) but then go on about how selfish another sender is for having mass children via fertility drugs when we know little about hers?