2. When did you realize that you had made it as a comedian?

His style is conversational and casual, and when asked how much is the science of comedy and how much is just him doing his thing, his answer is that it is just him doing what he loves. When asked when he felt he had officially made it as a comedian, his answer was both humble and honest. “I may never feel like I have made it,” he said after a pause. “Some clubs put me up in a room, but tonight I’m couch surfing.” He then explains that the first time he realized he was making it was when he had to learn the business end of being a comedian. “When I had to declare it on my taxes, and start tracking my miles, I realized I was actually making a living doing it,” he said. “But I don’t know if there will ever be a time when I think I’ve just made it.”