That record we made with Bill Stevenson out in Fort Collins, Colorado, and that was so much fun. One of the guys from Teenage Bottlerocket lent me his Harley because they left on tour, so I would wake up in the morning and go riding in the Rockies every morning, which was amazing. Fort Collins is such a cool town, and there was a bar we’d go to every night to eat and drink. It was kind of like we moved into Fort Collins for a month. And we’re working at the studio with fucking BIll from Descendents and Black Flag and ALL. Bill is one of our heroes and Bill is one of my best friends. I fucking love Bill Stevenson and I fucking love that record.

Lyrically, I know this record was really personal for you. Did it make it a little easier to make a record like that when the rest of the experience was so positive?

It wasn’t one of the easier times in my life. I was going through a break-up and was getting back together with that same person—who is on the cover of that album—and the whole record is about her. It was cathartic to write about exactly what I was going through—literally. People were like, “What’s ‘turquoise pumps’? What the fuck is that?” And it’s like, she was wearing turquoise pumps. It’s not a metaphor. Vinyl pants and turquoise pumps were what that motherfucker was wearing, and it was a good look, so it made it into the song. It was a lot more literal. We did that a lot more at the beginning of Trio’s career more often, and I always try to remember to do that. It’s the stranger-than-fiction kind of thing. Write something specific because it’s real, and you’re the only one who is gonna know what that was about.