This week, in honor of the new Subterranean Press volume The Top of the Volcano: The Award-Winning Stories of Harlan Ellison, we are joined by Harlan himself, along with Subterranean publisher William Schafer.

Although Jonathan wasnâ€™t able to join us on this one, we get into some fascinating stories about Thomas Pynchon, Octavia Butler, Harlanâ€™s famous house (including the â€œgrottoâ€), the role of small-press publishers in the history of the field, and what it all looks like from the perspective of a legendary writer in his 81st year.

Note: There’s a break at the 42min mark when Gary’s cat stepped on his laptop and paused the recording. A few minutes were missed, but conversation continued!!