Josh and Hrishi discuss a few conflicts central to this episode, and its making: Amy vs Josh, President Bartlet vs moral absolutes, and script deadlines vs directing schedules.

Here’s a link to buy tickets for our live “Celebrity Celebrity” game night, a benefit for The Pablove Foundation on September 24 — thewestwingweekly.com/celebrity.

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“Cool Sorkin Jams” playlist on Spotify, now with more Van Morrison

“[I've Had] The Time Of My Life” by Jennifer Warnes & Bill Medley

Josh Lyman’s little shimmy (I listened to Josh Malina cackling as he watched this over and over):