InDesconrowl Profile Joined April 2012 Togo 311 Posts Last Edited: 2012-09-20 09:13:37 #1 + Show Spoiler +



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This is a picture of gowser losing to swoozy.



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Here he is messaging his buddy (a playhem admin) to have swoozy banned for BM and maphacking.



Swoozy did get banned and the reason given was maphacking.



ColGowser advances even though he was also BM.



Admin decides because Swoozy made an infestation pit before his roach warren that was enough "proof" of maphacking.



Gowser's history of maphacking accusations:



from betmatch against team ROOT

coLgoswser: "not saying your bad because your not

just i think you might have hacked...

coLgoswser: fucking maphacker"



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=307078



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=307078¤tpage=2#32







since pictures wont resize properly here are the links:



TWITCH VOD:

http://www.twitch.tv/colgoswser/b/332778345



http://i.imgur.com/89bi5.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/OpMbH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XnyRh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aU667.jpg



edit: Gowser's response:



"After the match I was messaged and told that Swoozy was a known maphacker. Upon doing a few teamliquid searches I found that there is a really good possibility Swoozy stream cheats or map hacks. I apologize for being bad mannered, but I can't stand people who cheat to get wins. I don't care about the money, I just want there to be equality in the system, and I will be giving back my winnings from yesterday to playhem to show my motivations." This is a picture of gowser losing to swoozy.Here he is messaging his buddy (a playhem admin) to have swoozy banned for BM and maphacking.Swoozy did get banned and the reason given was maphacking.ColGowser advances even though he was also BM.Admin decides because Swoozy made an infestation pit before his roach warren that was enough "proof" of maphacking.Gowser's history of maphacking accusations:from betmatch against team ROOTcoLgoswser: "not saying your bad because your notjust i think you might have hacked...coLgoswser: fucking maphacker"since pictures wont resize properly here are the links:TWITCH VOD:edit: Gowser's response:"After the match I was messaged and told that Swoozy was a known maphacker. Upon doing a few teamliquid searches I found that there is a really good possibility Swoozy stream cheats or map hacks. I apologize for being bad mannered, but I can't stand people who cheat to get wins. I don't care about the money, I just want there to be equality in the system, and I will be giving back my winnings from yesterday to playhem to show my motivations." :tg: Ginyu Force :tg:

AnomalySC2 Profile Joined August 2012 United States 1965 Posts #2 Oh man, incoming drama fest.

BlackPanther Profile Blog Joined April 2011 United States 871 Posts #3 These are pretty damning allegations. If this turns out to be completely true, goswer should be kicked from complexity. Shit like this should not fly.

JJH777 Profile Joined January 2011 United States 3475 Posts Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:50:44 #4 On September 20 2012 16:42 BlackPanther wrote:

These are pretty damning allegations. If this turns out to be completely true, goswer should be kicked from complexity. Shit like this should not fly.



Nvm I didn't realize there was an additional screen-shot that wasn't posted in spoilered brackets like the other 3. That was kind of misleading. Nvm I didn't realize there was an additional screen-shot that wasn't posted in spoilered brackets like the other 3. That was kind of misleading.

NovemberstOrm Profile Blog Joined September 2011 Canada 15958 Posts Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:45:47 #5 We don't know the whole situation however if what was shown is the full story then neither should be banned since they were shit talking or whatever to each other. I would be very disappointed in the admin if this Swoozy person was banned for what was shown.





Gowser did start so if anyone should be banned it should be him.

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Fleuria Profile Joined April 2011 England 373 Posts #6 pretty bad behaviour

Namakaye Profile Joined April 2011 Australia 114 Posts #7 This is disgusting behavior from both players. Wouldn't be surprised to see coL act on this shortly.

walklightwhat Profile Joined November 2010 Australia 752 Posts #8 Rig is the wrong word.



More like goswser threw a bitch fit after losing and went crying to an admin to get the person who beat him disqualified.

Superiorwolf Profile Blog Joined March 2007 United States 5504 Posts Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:47:46 #9

Looks like swoozy initiated the bm in the first screenshot that's direct linked tho . . .



time stamp earlier than goswser's "you aren't good" message Is swoozy a known map hacker is what it comes down to I think!Looks like swoozy initiated the bm in the first screenshot that's direct linked tho . . . http://i.imgur.com/89bi5.jpg time stamp earlier than goswser's "you aren't good" message Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)

T.O.P. Profile Blog Joined January 2009 Hong Kong 4684 Posts #10 You got to be a dumbass to do this while streaming. Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.

Derez Profile Blog Joined January 2011 Netherlands 6041 Posts #11 On September 20 2012 16:45 Superiorwolf wrote:

Is swoozy a known map hacker is what it comes down to I think!

It really isn't. If Goswser was afraid of being stream cheated on he should have not streamed or delayed his stream. It really isn't. If Goswser was afraid of being stream cheated on he should have not streamed or delayed his stream.

StorrZerg Profile Blog Joined February 2008 United States 13508 Posts #12 Need full replay.. Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.

BlackPanther Profile Blog Joined April 2011 United States 871 Posts #13 On September 20 2012 16:44 JJH777 wrote:

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On September 20 2012 16:42 BlackPanther wrote:

These are pretty damning allegations. If this turns out to be completely true, goswer should be kicked from complexity. Shit like this should not fly.



There are screenshots how could it not be true..? I guess Swoozy could have gotten exceptionally BM after the time that screenshot was taken but even if he did goswer was the one who started it... There are screenshots how could it not be true..? I guess Swoozy could have gotten exceptionally BM after the time that screenshot was taken but even if he did goswer was the one who started it...



It could have been that Goswer was right and Swoozy was stream cheating. If that was the case then its correct that he should advance over swoozy. While I'm definetly leaning towards the potential fact that Goswer cheated, we should still wait for his side of the story as well as the admin's and see if they have any evidence. It could have been that Goswer was right and Swoozy was stream cheating. If that was the case then its correct that he should advance over swoozy. While I'm definetly leaning towards the potential fact that Goswer cheated, we should still wait for his side of the story as well as the admin's and see if they have any evidence.

Vestrel Profile Blog Joined December 2010 Canada 271 Posts Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:50:01 #14 Oh shit. Here we go.



...but while streaming? That's pretty damn dumb

mrtomjones Profile Joined April 2011 Canada 4017 Posts #15 On September 20 2012 16:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:

We don't know the whole situation however if what was shown is the full story then neither should be banned since they were shit talking or whatever to each other. I would be very disappointed in the admin if this Swoozy person was banned for what was shown.





Gowser did start so if anyone should be banned it should be him.



How the hell do you decide who started what based on three screenshots? Just because the first shot is Gowser saying something does not mean that Swoosy said nothing first.



PLEASE TL. Do not react until everything is out. Witch hunts are retarded. How the hell do you decide who started what based on three screenshots? Just because the first shot is Gowser saying something does not mean that Swoosy said nothing first.PLEASE TL. Do not react until everything is out. Witch hunts are retarded.

StorrZerg Profile Blog Joined February 2008 United States 13508 Posts #16 On September 20 2012 16:47 StorrZerg wrote:

Need full replay..



alot of the quotes with the bad bm, are him typing it, but it hasn't been entered....



Still, even if he didn't enter it, quite a bit of bad bm. alot of the quotes with the bad bm, are him typing it, but it hasn't been entered....Still, even if he didn't enter it, quite a bit of bad bm. Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.

PresenceSc2 Profile Joined February 2011 Australia 3982 Posts #17 swoozy is a known streamcheater.



drama time boys n girls Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber

walklightwhat Profile Joined November 2010 Australia 752 Posts Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:51:46 #18 On September 20 2012 16:47 StorrZerg wrote:

Need full replay..



It's in his latest stream vod. His games vs Swoozy start at about 1:57:00 It's in his latest stream vod. His games vs Swoozy start at about 1:57:00

herMan Profile Joined November 2010 Finland 1917 Posts #19 If you look at the screenshot, it implies that this guy's opponent was streamcheating and that it was a known stream cheater. We don't have all the necessary info to judge anyone yet.

InDesconrowl Profile Joined April 2012 Togo 311 Posts #20 On September 20 2012 16:49 mrtomjones wrote:

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On September 20 2012 16:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:

We don't know the whole situation however if what was shown is the full story then neither should be banned since they were shit talking or whatever to each other. I would be very disappointed in the admin if this Swoozy person was banned for what was shown.





Gowser did start so if anyone should be banned it should be him.



How the hell do you decide who started what based on three screenshots? Just because the first shot is Gowser saying something does not mean that Swoosy said nothing first.



PLEASE TL. Do not react until everything is out. Witch hunts are retarded. How the hell do you decide who started what based on three screenshots? Just because the first shot is Gowser saying something does not mean that Swoosy said nothing first.PLEASE TL. Do not react until everything is out. Witch hunts are retarded.



This isn't a kindergarten playground. It doesn't matter who started it, if both players are BM then NO ONE or BOTH should be DQ for bm.



Can you imagine if someone on NA was BM to liquidHero, how do you think he would react? Professionally. This isn't a kindergarten playground. It doesn't matter who started it, if both players are BM then NO ONE or BOTH should be DQ for bm.Can you imagine if someone on NA was BM to liquidHero, how do you think he would react? Professionally. :tg: Ginyu Force :tg:

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