In November, German news website Spiegel Online published an interview with Morrissey where he made controversial remarks about Kevin Spacey, Donald Trump, and more. Yesterday, Morrissey issued a statement refuting the interview’s accuracy. He also wrote that requests “for an unchopped, un-fiddled-with audio of their interview” were refused. Spiegel Online has now released audio of the 43-minute interview. Listen here.

In the interview, the audio reveals, Morrissey elaborated on views about sexual assault and harassment. When asked if he followed “#MeToo and [Harvey] Weinstein and all those things,” he said, “To a point I did, but then it becomes a theater, and suddenly everybody’s guilty. Anybody who has ever said to a person, ‘I quite like you,’ suddenly they’re being accused of sexual harassment.”

He later added, “There are extreme cases—and rape is revolting, and any kind of physical attack is revolting—but we must keep it in perspective, otherwise everybody on the planet is guilty of everything.” Morrisey was previously reported to have questioned whether the actor who accused Kevin Spacey of sexual assault was truly unaware of what might happen. “You have to assume that the boy had an inkling of what might possibly happen,” he said, as confirmed in the audio.

The audio also includes Morrissey explaining, in depth, his belief that “Germany has become the rape capital of Europe.” He says that “it coincides with the open borders and the free flow, which is very very shocking.” The interview closes with his views on the dangers of multiculturalism: