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From DH10 to DH9 implementation. Mod Updated: Please check the following postFrom DH10 to DH9 implementation.

Biedrik Profile Joined May 2014 United States 73 Posts #61 Played with this economic model for three games with a friend of similar skill (both diamond). While I haven't played much, overall I liked it. Our games were generally pretty exciting, and rewarded good multitasking quite a bit. We were wondering, how exactly have mules been worked into this system? Do they mine just as much as they did before? And is it possible to stack mules onto mineral patches with scvs or other mules already mining without any detrimental effect, like in HotS, or is it any different.



As for observations, I do have one. Not sure if this has been mentioned before (haven't been following the discussion very closely), but one positive change was that having workers more spread out between bases, meant that certain forms of economic damage that would be massive in HotS no longer mattered quite as much. For example, after a successful storm drop, I noticed that I wasn't killing anywhere near as many workers as I would in HotS. There were only 8 on the mineral line, and at this point we were both on about 4-5 bases. So in HotS, I could have potentially cut his economy by an entire third just with that one move, but under DH10 though still beneficial for me, the damage wasn't as devastating.



I think this is actually quite a good thing. One complaint about SC2 is that often games can end way too quickly. Imagine the above scenario, but in addition to that I move in with my army to wipe out another base along with its workers. So long as I don't lose too many units doing this, and have a secure income of my own, I've just done potentially game ending damage, all in the span of maybe 10 seconds. These sorts of scenarios are incredibly frustrating for lower level players to deal with, they lack the multitasking and attention required to prevent these really quick deaths. However, we don't sacrifice the requirement for skill in SC2. It takes excellent strategy, macro, and multitasking to be the best in this economy. So if my assessment is correct, with some sort of double harvesting economy, we have found one way to make the game less frustrating for new players without sacrificing how much skill can be displayed.

ZeromuS Profile Blog Joined October 2010 Canada 12919 Posts #62 On April 24 2015 09:54 Biedrik wrote:

Played with this economic model for three games with a friend of similar skill (both diamond). While I haven't played much, overall I liked it. Our games were generally pretty exciting, and rewarded good multitasking quite a bit. We were wondering, how exactly have mules been worked into this system? Do they mine just as much as they did before? And is it possible to stack mules onto mineral patches with scvs or other mules already mining without any detrimental effect, like in HotS, or is it any different.



As for observations, I do have one. Not sure if this has been mentioned before (haven't been following the discussion very closely), but one positive change was that having workers more spread out between bases, meant that certain forms of economic damage that would be massive in HotS no longer mattered quite as much. For example, after a successful storm drop, I noticed that I wasn't killing anywhere near as many workers as I would in HotS. There were only 8 on the mineral line, and at this point we were both on about 4-5 bases. So in HotS, I could have potentially cut his economy by an entire third just with that one move, but under DH10 though still beneficial for me, the damage wasn't as devastating.



I think this is actually quite a good thing. One complaint about SC2 is that often games can end way too quickly. Imagine the above scenario, but in addition to that I move in with my army to wipe out another base along with its workers. So long as I don't lose too many units doing this, and have a secure income of my own, I've just done potentially game ending damage, all in the span of maybe 10 seconds. These sorts of scenarios are incredibly frustrating for lower level players to deal with, they lack the multitasking and attention required to prevent these really quick deaths. However, we don't sacrifice the requirement for skill in SC2. It takes excellent strategy, macro, and multitasking to be the best in this economy. So if my assessment is correct, with some sort of double harvesting economy, we have found one way to make the game less frustrating for new players without sacrificing how much skill can be displayed.



Mules didn't change Mules didn't change Strategy Overwatch is awesome | Support is the best role | @TL_ZeromuS | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_

BlackLilium Profile Joined April 2011 Poland 420 Posts #63 On April 24 2015 09:54 Biedrik wrote:

As for observations, I do have one. Not sure if this has been mentioned before (haven't been following the discussion very closely), but one positive change was that having workers more spread out between bases, meant that certain forms of economic damage that would be massive in HotS no longer mattered quite as much. For example, after a successful storm drop, I noticed that I wasn't killing anywhere near as many workers as I would in HotS. There were only 8 on the mineral line, and at this point we were both on about 4-5 bases. So in HotS, I could have potentially cut his economy by an entire third just with that one move, but under DH10 though still beneficial for me, the damage wasn't as devastating.



That's interesting, thank you for pointing it out!

Workers in DH model tend to spend more time at the mineral patches and we were worried that harassment, especially in the form of AoE, would do more, not less damage. That's interesting, thank you for pointing it out!Workers in DH model tend to spend more time at the mineral patches and we were worried that harassment, especially in the form of AoE, would do, not less damage. [MOD]Economy - Hot Mineral Harvesting

SoulTendo Profile Joined July 2012 Sweden 5 Posts #64 On April 24 2015 07:31 Barrin wrote:

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On April 24 2015 06:16 Barrin wrote:

On April 24 2015 05:43 SoulTendo wrote:

I tried to create games with the mod but didn't succeed so far do I need to download anything?

Did you follow the instructions in Did you follow the instructions in this or this post?



Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod. Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod.

Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play? Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play?



I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt

Gene(S)is Profile Joined May 2010 Sweden 399 Posts #65 Love your commitment! For the swarm

Hider Profile Blog Joined May 2010 Denmark 8554 Posts Last Edited: 2015-04-24 12:45:43 #66 On April 24 2015 05:26 Barrin wrote:

To reiterate, vultures don't exist in SC2.



Hellions move at 4.25 cells per game second. That's 4.25*1.38= 5.865 cells per real second.

Vultures move @ 5.5 in SC2BW, you said. That's 5.5*1.38= 7.59 in real seconds. In BW, they move at about 5.075 in real seconds.



Vultures in SC2BW move ~50% faster than they do in BW.

Hellions in SC2 move ~15.6% faster than vultures in BW.



So I haven't spent a lot of time studying how speed should be translated/compared from BW to Sc2. However, both Sc2BW and Starbow have spent a lot of ressources on this, and came to the conclusion that the speed isn't slower in BW.



I don't know exactly what "cells" implicates, but it might not be a good measure of speed.



So I haven't spent a lot of time studying how speed should be translated/compared from BW to Sc2. However, both Sc2BW and Starbow have spent a lot of ressources on this, and came to the conclusion that the speed isn't slower in BW.I don't know exactly what "cells" implicates, but it might not be a good measure of speed. To reiterate, vultures don't exist in SC2.

In Sc2BW/Starbow. In Sc2BW/Starbow. Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.

Big J Profile Joined March 2011 Austria 16272 Posts Last Edited: 2015-04-24 13:04:16 #67 When all units are faster, then the defense is also faster in countermaneuvering. I don't see a big problem with the units in general being faster than BW units. All that matters is that it somehwo works out with SC2 units.



Though this might be hard to make work. Not because all of the units are too fast, but because specific units have a very easy time punishing you when you spread out.

Hider Profile Blog Joined May 2010 Denmark 8554 Posts Last Edited: 2015-04-24 13:24:39 #68 On April 24 2015 22:03 Big J wrote:

When all units are faster, then the defense is also faster in countermaneuvering. I don't see a big problem with the units in general being faster than BW units. All that matters is that it somehwo works out with SC2 units.



Though this might be hard to make work. Not because all of the units are too fast, but because specific units have a very easy time punishing you when you spread out.



It changes the reaction-speed though. If defensive units are slower, it takes longer for them to get from one base to another --> Offensive units can do more damage.



I think, however, its important to note that in a BW econ, the race on few bases isn't supposed to be in the defensive. So when one says that he has an easy time defending on 2-3 bases, that's actually intended. It changes the reaction-speed though. If defensive units are slower, it takes longer for them to get from one base to another --> Offensive units can do more damage.I think, however, its important to note that in a BW econ, the race on few bases isn't supposed to be in the defensive. So when one says that he has an easy time defending on 2-3 bases, that's actually intended. Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.

Big J Profile Joined March 2011 Austria 16272 Posts #69 On April 24 2015 22:24 Hider wrote:

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On April 24 2015 22:03 Big J wrote:

When all units are faster, then the defense is also faster in countermaneuvering. I don't see a big problem with the units in general being faster than BW units. All that matters is that it somehwo works out with SC2 units.



Though this might be hard to make work. Not because all of the units are too fast, but because specific units have a very easy time punishing you when you spread out.



It changes the reaction-speed though. If defensive units are slower, it takes longer for them to get from one base to another --> Offensive units can do more damage.



I think, however, its important to note that in a BW econ, the race on few bases isn't supposed to be in the defensive. So when one says that he has an easy time defending on 2-3 bases, that's actually intended. I think, however, its important to note that in a BW econ, the race on few bases isn't supposed to be in the defensive. So when one says that he has an easy time defending on 2-3 bases, that's actually intended.

of course, but that's all just theorizing about apples and oranges. The games are different to begin with. There is no use balancing for same reaction times when the units and strategies differ anyways. of course, but that's all just theorizing about apples and oranges. The games are different to begin with. There is no use balancing for same reaction times when the units and strategies differ anyways.

ZeromuS Profile Blog Joined October 2010 Canada 12919 Posts #70



Based on data, and feedback as well as some of our own playtesting we are going to try DH9.



Reason for this: The DH10 model provides possibly too many minerals too soon.



What we liked:



- faster start

- expansions matter

- getting more expansions created more action on the map (yay!)



What we didn't like:



- can max out REALLY fast

- can make more army with less workers



These last two things basically result in making it really hard for us to showcase the whole "expand for more money" thing we really want to push. Unfortunately to get the faster start in trade off for maxing out really fast isn't as worthwhile.



We are trying DH9 under the same mod in the OP.



This model still:



- Rewards expansions and spreading workers



This model adds:

- slower time to max econ (slower time to max out)



This model removes

- The ultra fast start (early builds are similar)



The main difference is that instead of having a huge econ boost early, you gain the econ boost as the base numbers go up. So once you hit 2, 3, 4 bases you'll notice a big bonus to your income. This model in effect: follows HotS curve early, and has a lower curve as the saturation goes up.



This effectively hurts turtle players by slowing down how quickly they can max out on peak econ just a tiny bit. And it further rewards players who are expanding a lot by letting them have more money to build an army with, after production etc.



Keep in mind -- players who cut econ can still build production and use that production to power a strong timing attack. All in attacks become more all in (similar to LotV) because the time it takes to remax is going to be a touch longer for the second all in attempt, giving the player who wasn't all in more time to rebuild (assuming they kept production and some sort of army).



Below you will find the old curve and new curve DH10 vs DH9 ( I dont have full full data on the 16-24 curve in DH10 on my HDD right this moment but it is higher than HotS and they meet at around 23/24







Let us know what you think of this one! Lets hope it feels just as fun and helps to show our ideas more clearly in terms of "expanding is more rewarding" without blowing up the game through such high income rates overall



This MIGHT be the opposite direction we should try not sure, but maxing out quickly isn't going to help show the goal of our mod



Also: DH10 is still playable using Lalush's mod if you want to try both and let us know which you prefer We think for now that DH9 is worth a try since it doesn't blow up early game or builds nearly as hard as DH10 did, which we concede may have been too much too soon Thanks for helping us test the DH10 model.Based on data, and feedback as well as some of our own playtesting we are going to try DH9.Reason for this: The DH10 model provides possibly too many minerals too soon.What we liked:- faster start- expansions matter- getting more expansions created more action on the map (yay!)What we didn't like:- can max out REALLY fast- can make more army with less workersThese last two things basically result in making it really hard for us to showcase the whole "expand for more money" thing we really want to push. Unfortunately to get the faster start in trade off for maxing out really fast isn't as worthwhile.We are trying DH9 under the same mod in the OP.This model still:- Rewards expansions and spreading workersThis model adds:- slower time to max econ (slower time to max out)This model removes- The ultra fast start (early builds are similar)The main difference is that instead of having a huge econ boost early, you gain the econ boost as the base numbers go up. So once you hit 2, 3, 4 bases you'll notice a big bonus to your income. This model in effect: follows HotS curve early, and has a lower curve as the saturation goes up.This effectively hurts turtle players by slowing down how quickly they can max out on peak econ just a tiny bit. And it further rewards players who are expanding a lot by letting them have more money to build an army with, after production etc.Keep in mind -- players who cut econ can still build production and use that production to power a strong timing attack. All in attacks become more all in (similar to LotV) because the time it takes to remax is going to be a touch longer for the second all in attempt, giving the player who wasn't all in more time to rebuild (assuming they kept production and some sort of army).Below you will find the old curve and new curve DH10 vs DH9( I dont have full full data on the 16-24 curve in DH10 on my HDD right this moment but it is higher than HotS and they meet at around 23/24Let us know what you think of this one! Lets hope it feels just as fun and helps to show our ideas more clearly in terms of "expanding is more rewarding" without blowing up the game through such high income rates overallThis MIGHT be the opposite direction we should try not sure, but maxing out quickly isn't going to help show the goal of our modAlso: DH10 is still playable using Lalush's mod if you want to try both and let us know which you preferWe think for now that DH9 is worth a try since it doesn't blow up early game or builds nearly as hard as DH10 did, which we concede may have been too much too soon Strategy Overwatch is awesome | Support is the best role | @TL_ZeromuS | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_

Barrin Profile Blog Joined May 2010 United States 4998 Posts Last Edited: 2015-04-24 16:00:04 #71 On April 24 2015 21:45 Hider wrote:

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On April 24 2015 05:26 Barrin wrote:

To reiterate, vultures don't exist in SC2.



Hellions move at 4.25 cells per game second. That's 4.25*1.38= 5.865 cells per real second.

Vultures move @ 5.5 in SC2BW, you said. That's 5.5*1.38= 7.59 in real seconds. In BW, they move at about 5.075 in real seconds.



Vultures in SC2BW move ~50% faster than they do in BW.

Hellions in SC2 move ~15.6% faster than vultures in BW.



So I haven't spent a lot of time studying how speed should be translated/compared from BW to Sc2. So I haven't spent a lot of time studying how speed should be translated/compared from BW to Sc2.

I, on the other hand, literally tested all of these units and came up with hard data. If you want to refute my data and conclusions, you should try experiments yourself. Until you do, your opinion on this is utterly meaningless.



I, on the other hand, literally tested all of these units and came up with hard data. If you want to refute my data and conclusions, you should try experiments yourself. Until you do, your opinion on this is utterly meaningless. However, both Sc2BW and Starbow have spent a lot of ressources on this, and came to the conclusion that the speed isn't slower in BW.

I don't know how else to tell you this: They are wrong.



If they even said that; what you are doing is hear-say. Where did they say that? I already gave you the results of my data, where are the results of their data?



So Vultures move at 3.61 or 3.75 in these two different SC2BW versions. Not 5.5, donno where you got that. They're 4.25 by default in the editor.



Again, they are wrong. At least one of them knows they are wrong (Xiphias of Starbow) and has literally talked to me recently trying to get better data. MavercK hasn't posted on TL since last year, so I donno about him. I know better than them about this (basically everyone who's been as deep into SC1/BW data as me is not around these parts anymore), and if you ask them they will probably agree. Not that it matters; I have something better: data.



I don't know how else to tell you this: They are wrong.If they even said that; what you are doing is hear-say.I already gave you the results of my data,So Vultures move at 3.61 or 3.75 in these two different SC2BW versions. Not 5.5, donno where you got that. They're 4.25 by default in the editor.Again, they are wrong. At least one of them knows they are wrong (Xiphias of Starbow) and has literally talked to me recently trying to get better data. MavercK hasn't posted on TL since last year, so I donno about him. I know better than them about this (basically everyone who's been as deep into SC1/BW data as me is not around these parts anymore), and if you ask them they will probably agree. Not that it matters; I have something better: data. I don't know exactly what "cells" implicates, but it might not be a good measure of speed.

Admitting your ignorance is progress.



You know how maps have certain, different sizes? Steppes of War for example is 124x124. Echo is 140x140 (the most common size, actually). Inferno Pools is 180x180. These numbers refer to the width and the height of the map respectively. Each 1x1 tile is a single "cell".



When a unit has a movement speed of 5.5 for example, it means that it will move across 5.5 cells in 1 in-game second.



Cells per second literally is the measure of speed.



Maps are similar in size in both SC2 and BW, btw. Admitting your ignorance is progress.You know how maps have certain, different sizes? Steppes of War for example is 124x124. Echo is 140x140 (the most common size, actually). Inferno Pools is 180x180. These numbers refer to the width and the height of the map respectively. Each 1x1 tile is a single "cell".When a unit has a movement speed of 5.5 for example, it means that it will move across 5.5 cells in 1 in-game second.Cells per second literally is the measure of speed.Maps are similar in size in both SC2 and BW, btw. Grandfather of LotV's resource model. "Fewer Resources per Base"

Hider Profile Blog Joined May 2010 Denmark 8554 Posts Last Edited: 2015-04-24 16:05:25 #72 Maps are similar in size in both SC2 and BW, btw.



Okay, I just never heard anyone who had looked into the speed difference coming to the conclusion that the speed was faster, but your arguments are convincing so I stand corrected. FYI, is it your opinion that the fact that BW is more zoomed in has something to do with the game feeling faster? Okay, I just never heard anyone who had looked into the speed difference coming to the conclusion that the speed was faster, but your arguments are convincing so I stand corrected. FYI, is it your opinion that the fact that BW is more zoomed in has something to do with the game feeling faster? Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.

ZeromuS Profile Blog Joined October 2010 Canada 12919 Posts #73 On April 25 2015 01:02 Hider wrote:

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Maps are similar in size in both SC2 and BW, btw.



Okay, I just never heard anyone who had looked into the speed difference coming to the conclusion that the speed was faster, but your arguments are convincing so I stand corrected. FYI, is it your opinion that the fact that BW is more zoomed in has something to do with the game feeling faster? Okay, I just never heard anyone who had looked into the speed difference coming to the conclusion that the speed was faster, but your arguments are convincing so I stand corrected. FYI, is it your opinion that the fact that BW is more zoomed in has something to do with the game feeling faster?



I think discussions of the unit speeds etc are interesting but out of scope for what we are trying to do.



I'm glad everyone likes the whole DH thing, but for us its more about proof of concept.



That you can make a subtle change and see changes apply to the game without having to change hard mineral counts.



The core of the idea is: Pairing workers in HotS and SC2 in general right now causes some problems.



Lets try to unlock this pair by offering diminishing rewards at 9 workers and seeing how the game plays out and the small improvements that encouraging expansions can bring.



Sure there will be rebalancing but there will always be rebalancing in any eco change. We're just trying to find something that is the same but different. I think discussions of the unit speeds etc are interesting but out of scope for what we are trying to do.I'm glad everyone likes the whole DH thing, but for us its more about proof of concept.That you can make a subtle change and see changes apply to the game without having to change hard mineral counts.The core of the idea is: Pairing workers in HotS and SC2 in general right now causes some problems.Lets try to unlock this pair by offering diminishing rewards at 9 workers and seeing how the game plays out and the small improvements that encouraging expansions can bring.Sure there will be rebalancing but there will always be rebalancing in any eco change. We're just trying to find something that is the same but different. Strategy Overwatch is awesome | Support is the best role | @TL_ZeromuS | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_

Barrin Profile Blog Joined May 2010 United States 4998 Posts Last Edited: 2015-04-24 17:16:50 #74 On April 25 2015 01:02 Hider wrote:

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Maps are similar in size in both SC2 and BW, btw.



Okay, I just never heard anyone who had looked into the speed difference coming to the conclusion that the speed was faster, but your arguments are convincing so I stand corrected. FYI, is it your opinion that the fact that BW is more zoomed in has something to do with the game feeling faster? Okay, I just never heard anyone who had looked into the speed difference coming to the conclusion that the speed was faster, but your arguments are convincing so I stand corrected. FYI, is it your opinion that the fact that BW is more zoomed in has something to do with the game feeling faster?

Nah, but it might have something to do with units feeling smaller. I'm going to test that too. Let's just say I plan to make a mod in LotV.



edit: I can definitely agree with focusing on just the economy for now. Nah, but it might have something to do with units feeling smaller. I'm going to test that too. Let's just say I plan to make a mod in LotV.edit: I can definitely agree with focusing on just the economy for now. Grandfather of LotV's resource model. "Fewer Resources per Base"

woopr Profile Joined December 2012 United States 109 Posts #75 is there a post that explains why dh8 isn't being considered as much?



i know it ramps up similarly to hots in the first 8 workers then have a max mining rate that is lower, but is that bad? having lower max income per base would keep the game from being so easy to max out quickly from 3 bases

ZeromuS Profile Blog Joined October 2010 Canada 12919 Posts Last Edited: 2015-04-24 17:51:02 #76 On April 25 2015 02:33 woopr wrote:

is there a post that explains why dh8 isn't being considered as much?



i know it ramps up similarly to hots in the first 8 workers then have a max mining rate that is lower, but is that bad? having lower max income per base would keep the game from being so easy to max out quickly from 3 bases



The mineral curve is really low compared to HotS and we don't want to mess with the gas ratios that much. Since we arent playing with gas incomes etc, the goal of the mod is to show the impact of diminishing returns on the 9th worker onwards and how expanding more rewards players on equal counts.



DH10 was too extreme with the mineral curve and lets you max out quickly, and DH8 is too extreme in the other direction with too shallow a curve meaning minerals income is much lower than gas income. Again, we don't want to try and play with the mineral:gas ratio if we can help it. The closest we can come to the mineral gas ratio of hots remaining without blowing up early game through mineral income is DH9 the way i've gotten it to work right now. Which is really more of a triple harvest but its already been branded "DH"



DH9 is what we are trying now to see how if it more accurately shows the "expand fore more money" bit without creating "you can mass armies on low worker counts ans bases".



Also DH9 does have a slower max out rate just not as pronounced as DH since again we are concerned with the mineral:gas ratios The mineral curve is really low compared to HotS and we don't want to mess with the gas ratios that much. Since we arent playing with gas incomes etc, the goal of the mod is to show the impact of diminishing returns on the 9th worker onwards and how expanding more rewards players on equal counts.DH10 was too extreme with the mineral curve and lets you max out quickly, and DH8 is too extreme in the other direction with too shallow a curve meaning minerals income is much lower than gas income. Again, we don't want to try and play with the mineral:gas ratio if we can help it. The closest we can come to the mineral gas ratio of hots remaining without blowing up early game through mineral income is DH9 the way i've gotten it to work right now. Which is really more of a triple harvest but its already been branded "DH"DH9 is what we are trying now to see how if it more accurately shows the "expand fore more money" bit without creating "you can mass armies on low worker counts ans bases".Also DH9 does have a slower max out rate just not as pronounced as DH since again we are concerned with the mineral:gas ratios Strategy Overwatch is awesome | Support is the best role | @TL_ZeromuS | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_

robopork Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 502 Posts #77 On April 24 2015 15:20 SoulTendo wrote:

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On April 24 2015 07:31 Barrin wrote:

On April 24 2015 07:07 SoulTendo wrote:

On April 24 2015 06:16 Barrin wrote:

On April 24 2015 05:43 SoulTendo wrote:

I tried to create games with the mod but didn't succeed so far do I need to download anything?

Did you follow the instructions in Did you follow the instructions in this or this post?



Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod. Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod.

Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play? Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play?



I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt



I thought I was having that same issue but then I realized I was finding the maps in the list of custom games. On the left there's something you click to let you search for just maps, and then you'll see the play with mod option, search for the mod etc. I thought I was having that same issue but then I realized I was finding the maps in the list of custom games. On the left there's something you click to let you search for just maps, and then you'll see the play with mod option, search for the mod etc. “This left me alone to solve the coffee problem - a sort of catch-22, as in order to think straight I need caffeine, and in order to make that happen I need to think straight.”

KingAlphard Profile Blog Joined August 2012 Italy 1704 Posts #78 On April 25 2015 03:08 robopork wrote:

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On April 24 2015 15:20 SoulTendo wrote:

On April 24 2015 07:31 Barrin wrote:

On April 24 2015 07:07 SoulTendo wrote:

On April 24 2015 06:16 Barrin wrote:

On April 24 2015 05:43 SoulTendo wrote:

I tried to create games with the mod but didn't succeed so far do I need to download anything?

Did you follow the instructions in Did you follow the instructions in this or this post?



Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod. Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod.

Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play? Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play?



I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt



I thought I was having that same issue but then I realized I was finding the maps in the list of custom games. On the left there's something you click to let you search for just maps, and then you'll see the play with mod option, search for the mod etc. I thought I was having that same issue but then I realized I was finding the maps in the list of custom games. On the left there's something you click to let you search for just maps, and then you'll see the play with mod option, search for the mod etc.



Yeah you have to click on Browse maps first, I was also freaking out at first thinking I had a bugged version of the game or something

Besides I like the change to DH9, it should be closer to HotS in terms of "how fast you can get to XXX supply". Yeah you have to click on Browse maps first, I was also freaking out at first thinking I had a bugged version of the game or somethingBesides I like the change to DH9, it should be closer to HotS in terms of "how fast you can get to XXX supply". hots/lotv gm protoss - tesgaming.com

ZeromuS Profile Blog Joined October 2010 Canada 12919 Posts #79 On April 25 2015 03:20 KingAlphard wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 25 2015 03:08 robopork wrote:

On April 24 2015 15:20 SoulTendo wrote:

On April 24 2015 07:31 Barrin wrote:

On April 24 2015 07:07 SoulTendo wrote:

On April 24 2015 06:16 Barrin wrote:

On April 24 2015 05:43 SoulTendo wrote:

I tried to create games with the mod but didn't succeed so far do I need to download anything?

Did you follow the instructions in Did you follow the instructions in this or this post?



Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod. Thank you but I saw that my problem is that I don't have an Create with mod button on the maps i want to play. So I guess I cant use any mod.

Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play? Hmm. Which maps are you trying to play?



I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt I tried Echo, Coda, Overgrowt



I thought I was having that same issue but then I realized I was finding the maps in the list of custom games. On the left there's something you click to let you search for just maps, and then you'll see the play with mod option, search for the mod etc. I thought I was having that same issue but then I realized I was finding the maps in the list of custom games. On the left there's something you click to let you search for just maps, and then you'll see the play with mod option, search for the mod etc.



Yeah you have to click on Browse maps first, I was also freaking out at first thinking I had a bugged version of the game or something

Besides I like the change to DH9, it should be closer to HotS in terms of "how fast you can get to XXX supply". Yeah you have to click on Browse maps first, I was also freaking out at first thinking I had a bugged version of the game or somethingBesides I like the change to DH9, it should be closer to HotS in terms of "how fast you can get to XXX supply".



Its actually a little slower to reach that supply in dh9 compared to hots. Its actually a little slower to reach that supply in dh9 compared to hots. Strategy Overwatch is awesome | Support is the best role | @TL_ZeromuS | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_

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