Interview starts 34:33

Robert W. Sullivan IV, joins us again to chat about his latest book on the symbolism in cinema. Cinema Symbolism 2 is now out and it’s full of intersting examples of symbolism.

We chat about some of the book and the chapters on the Collaborators, Black Swan, Eyes Wide Shut and the OTO, the anti hero’s, the hero’s journey, The Illuminate in film, X-files and much more. Robert is a Freemason so we also get into that and it’s influence on culture and structure over the years.

In the intro we chat about the black budget ep that was released with Sal about Disney and his experience through recovery and creativity. Graham shares some listener stories and the UFO quote of the week. We also speculate on doing a flat earth debate for some of the bonus content and keep that polarizing stuff out of the normal feed.

See the links below for stuff we chatted about during the episode and the intro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFyoAbKk-iE Mathisen and star myths on Grimerica

http://grimsteak.libsyn.com/ Cruzin with Steak Podcast

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