In the early moonlit morning of Friday, September 4, 2015, I left Chicago and headed east to Indianapolis, Indiana, where I spent the entire day with Jungian analyst and author J. Gary Sparks.

Over a bottle of San Pellegrino water, hunks of bread, cheese, and dark chocolate, we sat in his living room and talked for hours about Jung, his books, the training program in Zürich, and how Daryl Sharp saved his life.

Eventually remembering the purpose of my visit, we moved into his consulting room to take a few photos, shoot a couple of videos, and begin recording the interview. Our discussion focused around his book, At the Heart of Matter: Synchronicity & Jung’s Spiritual Testament, and covered what synchronicity really is, how quantum physics factors into it, why the dreams of Wolfgang Pauli are so important, and the true purpose of Jungian Psychology.

John Gary Sparks earned a Bachelor of Science in electrical engineering from Bucknell University in Pennsylvania, a Master of Divinity from Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, California, and a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich where his thesis advisor was Marie-Louise von Franz and his training analysts included Jung’s grandson, Dieter Baumann, and Jung’s lifelong friend and colleague, C.A. Meier.

Sparks is also the author of Valley of Diamonds: Adventures in Number & Time with Marie-Louise von Franz, as well as the editor of Edward Edinger’s Ego & Self: The Old Testament Prophets—From Isaiah to Malachi, and Science of the Soul: A Jungian Perspective {co-editor with Daryl Sharp}, all published by Inner City Books. He enjoys teaching Jungian psychology at all levels and has maintained an analytic practice in Indianapolis since 1983.

Here is the interview, which is also available on iTunes and on Stitcher. It’s just over one hour long and around 63MB: