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BUSINESS CONGLOMERATE. GREAT TO HAVE YOU! WHAT A WEEK IT'S BEEN, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT NATO. WE HAD G7. NOW THIS PARIS DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE SEEING THE CONTINUED THEME FROM THE U.S., RETREATING FROM THE GLOBAL STAGE, UNRAVELING THESE POST-WORLD WAR II GLOBE ALLIANCES. AND THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR NO LONGER ABLE TO RELY ON THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. DOES THIS IMPACT THE INDIA-RUSSIA RELATIONSHIP AT ALL? CAN IT STILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME? >> YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE WITH THE INDIA-RUSSIAN RELATIONSHIP. IT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR, IT OBVIOUSLY WENT STILL STAND THROUGH UPS AND DOWNS AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE U.S.S.R. THE TRADE HAS NOT GONE VERY MUCH BETWEEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT ON DEFENSE AND ENERGY, IT HAS BEEN GROWING. INDIA, OF COURSE, HAS BEEN DIVERSIFYING PART OF ITS DEFENSE AND TRADE. SO HAS RUSSIA. YOU KNOW, LINING UP TOWARDS CHINA TO SOME EXTENT. I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HICCUPS IN THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT IT'S A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP. AGE OLD TESTED. WE MUST NEVER FORGET THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF HOW INDIA ALWAYS LOOKS TO RUSSIA. >> BUT HAS THE WORLD ORDER BEEN SHIFTING NOW, BECAUSE INDIA HAS BEEN WARY OF RUSSIA'S COZY RELATIONSHIP WITH BEIJING. RUSSIA WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SUPPORTERS OF ONE BELT, ONE ROAD. MOSCOW ALSO A BIT WARY ABOUT MODI WARMING UP TO THE U.S. AS WELL. IS THERE REALLY THIS POLITICAL WILL TO EXPAND THIS BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP BEYOND JUST DEFENSE? >> I THINK BOTH COUNTRIES, INDIA AND RUSSIA, ARE LOOKING FOR A POLY-CENTRIC WORLD. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS LOOKING FOR A BIPOLAR WORLD. FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, THE INTERESTS ARE ALIGNED. THEY WANT TO SEE A MULTIPOLAR WORLD. AND INDIA AND RUSSIA ARE A PART OF THAT POLARITY. THE RELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA IN THE DEFENSE AND ENERGY SIDE IS STILL LARGE. THEY ARE LOOKING AT BUILDING 12 NEW NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A FAIR AMOUNT GOING ON. BUT, YES, IT IS NOT AS EXCLUSIVE AS IT WAS IN THE PAST.