In his interview with Peter LaBarbera this week, former InfoWars reporter David Ortiz argued that homophobia, especially for straight men, is “intuitive” and that the only sensible reaction to homosexuality is revulsion.

“If homosexuality was so normal, why is it every man’s instinctive response at first is to be disgusted by that?” he asked.

LaBarbera kicked it up a notch with the assertion that “homophobia” is a made-up word, manufactured by LGBT advocates to gain mainstream acceptance and vilify those who are inherently repelled by homosexuality.

“You’re absolutely right, there is a natural inhibition against homosexual behavior,” LaBarbera said. “I’m worried that young people are so brainwashed and they’re so indoctrinated that they’re losing that natural sense that we have.”