LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT BEFORE I START. THIS ISN’T A RANT. THIS ISN’T A THREAD WHERE YOU CAN BASH WOMEN OR MEN. ALL THE MISOGYNY AND MISANDRY DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS THREAD.THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION AND TO POSSIBLY EDUCATE. THERE WILL BE OPINIONS AND GENERALIZATIONS AND SOME WILL BE UNPOPULAR. THE SUBJECT MATTER MAY BE SENSITIVE TO YOU.

I think there has been a significant decline in the value and expectation of the male sex. I was having a conversation with my partner. The subject basically summed down to the old and over simplified question, “Why do women like bad boys.”

Throughout my life due to what I’ve been taught and what I have personally experienced, I explained to her that I felt conflicted with being a “good man”.

I lived my young life and I’m taught how to be a man by other men and my peers [Society/Culture]. I was told to be aggressive, to take control. I go to college and study relationships, and I’m told to forget everything that I knew about being a man and I am retaught by women, some who are and are not feminists. I am told that the attitude that I had my lead to abusive situations. I enter a relationship, and I’m told to do both….. I learn that being a man is………. there isn’t even a word for it….. what is a word for “useless”, “in false high demand of”, “futile”, “forbidden”, and “vitriolic”…….. Am I a drug????

I don’t think men are asked to be the providers, fixers, the movers and shakers of the world. That was an archaic way of thinking. That’s not what women “say” they want anymore. Now, its like they are requesting that men be committed companions instead of excelling. I hear “men are dogs”, “he is just going to cheat on me”, “I don’t want to be in relationship because I’ll just get hurt again”. They are basically asking us to stop hurting them…… What it comes down to is that we aren’t expected to be the men who excel, we are expected to be the men who hurt, cheat, and to fail…… which is downright unfair to today’s young men and boys.

I’m not saying that these expectations are unwarranted because men do commit most of violent crime and crime in general. We do have a history oppressing women, ourselves, and our children…. So it makes sense that all of this is happening. If you continue to hurt somebody, that somebody won’t think very high of you. They won’t trust you. They’ll get rid of you. So now…. your disposable.

I’m not saying we don’t deserve this, But I’m saying there is a big change that’s happening and people aren’t noticing it or taking it seriously. If I bring it up people think i’m pandering to misogynists and think they need to call a WAH-mbulance.