You don't really realize how bad things are until you see them from the outside. Mike Scholz has done just that and he's here to tell us all about it. We touch upon his experience working with the Canadian government, the importance of descending into the valley beneath the two mountains, his musical project Wokewave, breaking down silos, and why he is not a proponent of technological determinism. I occasionally interject and hijack the conversation in an attempt to sound interesting and cultured. Setlist: * KOKOROKO - ABUSEY JUNCTION * Vanessa Wagner - Avril 14th (Aphex Twin) * Shook - Cloud Symphony * Wokewave - Sacrasocial Ritual * Peter Cat Recording Co. - Portrait of a Time * Kamasi Washington - Street Fighter Mas * James Blake - Don't Miss It