what the fuck is this show??

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perfect first comment

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A soap opera with dragons, more rape, way more nudity and more incest tbh.





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Lol, perfect summary.

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this about sums it up.

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seriously, everything i hear about this pos show sounds vile



Edited at 2017-08-05 09:41 pm (UTC)

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rape: the fantasy

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i don't watch GoT but i love how the incestuous aspect of this is not even a thing anymore, it's just casually accepted after all those years.



Edited at 2017-08-05 02:27 pm (UTC)

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ikr? i see all these ships everywhere and i'm like ".....?????"

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seriously lmao. surely jon, sansa, dany and arya deserve better?

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Well.. there really are no females left for him besides his sisters lmao. All of them are dead, not written in the series or whatnot. When I read the books I wanted him to be with Arianne Martell but alas

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UGH I am so fucking sick of seeing comments everywhere online of people saying Dany and Jon are gonna fuck...like NO. Fuck off ugh. I have seen Jon/Sansa shit too, but I haven't seen Jon/Arya UGH that is so awful ugh.



People have been shipping them for years, even when they had never met and were not even in the same continent or known to each other. (and EW didn't help with those weird photoshoots that Emilia and Kit did years ago ugh)

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I see way more fans of this show actually actively rooting for incest to happen... Ew.

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Because they only act like lovers, not siblings.

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This is me tho lmao I honestly don't bat an eye at incest in TV shows anymore.

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Lmao I can only imagine how batshit it looks from the outside

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"people only criticize problematic things when it's something they don't think is entertaining..."



yep u right, ontd included. its groce

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mte

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Seriously, everyone in it is disgusting, the real question is why do people still watch it.

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You're so fucking transparent lol

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the double standard is disgusting. fuck the author of that article who tried to justify cersei raping jamie. the ableism of "feels unworthy of his sister’s love because of his amputation" is disgusting

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I stopped watching GOT after Jaime raped Cersei, and obviously I haven't missed anything. Reading the recaps is more than enough.

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same except I don't read recaps.

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I quit when I remembered the craster's keep scene. what a fucking sick show

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I'm still so mad about that shit. It wasn't just the rape itself but the fact that the creators of the show still deny to this day that it was rape. The influence this show has on viewers makes something like that so damaging. It makes my blood boil.

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This is the best season so far so yeah you're missing a lot sweetie

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I think D&D did that on purpose to show the first scene where Cersei said no was justified and that's just how they roll in that relationship -.-' Or they wanted to show the role reversal, it was done on purpose for sure

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yeah, they know about the backlash, even the actor talked about it so in a way they were responding to that imo

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I think you're right.

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I think so too. which I why I just rolled my eyes at the scene. ugh.

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You know it, those fuckers are transparent

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I agree! So transparent.

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That's exactly what I think. They honestly are shit writers.

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Came to comments exactly this.

When I watched that scene I immediately thought it was intentional.

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I called it before. DnD are petty and don't forget being dragged by the public. Sickos are trying to justify it by making it happen to Jaime too

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yuuurp. They think they are sooooo smart. But really they need to take another screen writing class.

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that was my first thought when he said "no." so much stuff on this show is so obviously in response to fan complaints. i think they still feel some irritation/resentment over the outrage over that scene

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It feels like everyone's been raped at least once on this show. It's so lazy writing.

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It is the Passions of HBO.

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Passions was way better paced, even if Sheridan spent 30 years in that hole

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I haven't even started to watch the new season, and I know a lot of people have claimed to quit watching the show after Sansa's rape, which could explain the lack of thinkpieces about this. The show is in its 7th season, I imagine many have given up analyzing why it's problematique.



Also if they fiercely defended Jaime's rape of Cersei (like the actor did) but they're upset about this, then it seems they are the ones with the double standard.

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Is that MK/Veera in your icon? I'm still upset.

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maybe ppl have finally taken a page frm your "Why do you hate rapist[sic] so much?" book, #impacTed

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Exactly. OP is a troll with ulterior motives. I always hate why is no-one talking about this type of articles. I called it out right here as did others

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Because I don't care about this show so I never heard of this before.



And independently of the show, most fans on Twitter/FB that post about an episode don't even register that something is wrong with a scene, in this case, a man being raped or forced; they don't talk about it at all.

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i dont even remember him saying no in that scene?

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i didn't hear it either but people did

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Same. I was too busy barfing over the fact that they were all over each other again.

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He says 'No' right at the beginning before she gives him a blowjob. I took it at as him not consenting.

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Agree, because she never stopped to ask him again if he wants it. She just went for it.

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Same here but I also try to tune out the incest and look away.

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he was upset during their conversation so when she went in to kiss him he said "no" then she forced the kiss on him which lead to them making out, the bj and then waking up naked in bed together.

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He also let her give him head and laughed at the end so he obviously enjoyed it.

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I wish this show was better because the genre is right up my alley. I love slow, sprawling fantasy epics with loads of characters and the idea that it is like a chess board of strategy at times.

But, jesus, why do almost all of those have to be so rapey and awful in other ways? I get that fantasy epics tend to be rapey (or, on the other hand, pretend women/sex don't exist if we are talking LOTR lol) but they don't have to be, right?



I feel like I could rewrite most of the rape scenes in GOT in a more compelling, nuanced way without having to take away consent to do it.

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i'd be here for an actually good, feminist fantasy show. xena warrior princess kind of did everything genrewise but there were a few storylines which were really epic high fantasy and it was sooooo good. also, no rape. i'd watch a show like that.

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So many of the rape scenes and/or brutality towards women scenes weren't even necessary as part of the story telling which is one of the main gripes people have about this show. I understand it happens in this type of society but I don't need it drilled into my fucking skull every few episodes.

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frankly, I'd love a series based on The Silmarilion and related writings.

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that's HBO for you tbh. it's not new with Game of Thrones. they go for gratuitous violence and sex and violent sex at any opportunity.

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There have only been like 3 rape scenes I the SEVEN years the show has been on. Stop being so fucking dramatic.

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slow sprawling fantasy stories used to be my fav. i'm not reading GoT bc i refuse since it is unfinished (and will prolly never BE finished) but i'd love to read something really GOOD. i love james michner's books (even though they aren't fantasy. they're just so good in terms of world building and character development)

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Probably because the people who've caredbefore stopped watching long ago.



Is there even a male character left (apart from Jon and maybe Davos), that isn't a rapist themselves?



Edited at 2017-08-05 02:59 pm (UTC)

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Jon, Davos, Grey Worm and Gendry if he ever comes back. I guess.

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wait

did i miss something about tyrion?? who did he rape

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sounds about right lol, and Grey Worm is an eunuch and Gendry has been rowing for four season now...

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I don't think the Hound has had sex?

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Sam? His sex with Gilly was consensual, right? But tbh, I don't remember if he had sex on the show.

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if we're talking alive characters, then bronn (as far as we know, but he slept with prostitutes), jorah, sam, tormund (as far as we know), daario (again, has also slept with prostitutes), Theon (has paid for sex), Podrick (slept with prostitues who then refused money because magic dick)



I guess Petyr technically, but an argument could be made for having sex with Lysa under false pretenses and he kissed sansa.



if we include dead characters then we can add robb, nedd, ser barristan, tommen and a few others to that list.



jamie's character assasination in that horrible episode aside, most male characters on the show who have been rapists have been either obviously evil main characters like ramsay and roose, or nameless redshirt evil characters like Craster. we can't count tyrion because hes obviously a much more morally good character on the show than in the books, and what happened with tysha was complicated and he was a victim himself.

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