StarVe Profile Joined June 2011 Germany 12278 Posts Last Edited: 2013-05-12 23:24:00 #2



he may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose points



I mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30. stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my hearthe may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose pointsI mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30.

Sabre Profile Blog Joined February 2011 United Kingdom 1082 Posts #3 On May 13 2013 08:23 StarVe wrote:

stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my heart



he may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose points



I mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30. stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my hearthe may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose pointsI mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30.



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KalWarkov Profile Blog Joined December 2011 Germany 3911 Posts #4 On May 13 2013 08:23 StarVe wrote:

stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my heart



he may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose points



I mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30. stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my hearthe may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose pointsI mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30.



well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player following

doesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/ well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player followingdoesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/ DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM WoL/HotS/LotV | Dota2 - Offlane/5: peak 5.8k solo | Wc3 - Undead: 2007/2008/2016/2017/2018 ~rank 100 W3A/Bnet, ~60% winrate | Diablo 2 / Grim Dawn / PoE nerd - Melee Classes | Leffen/Ice, MCarlsen, BVB <3 | Agnostic***

StarVe Profile Joined June 2011 Germany 12278 Posts Last Edited: 2013-05-12 23:40:06 #5 On May 13 2013 08:28 KalWarkov wrote:

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On May 13 2013 08:23 StarVe wrote:

stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my heart



he may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose points



I mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30. stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my hearthe may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose pointsI mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30.



well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player following

doesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/ well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player followingdoesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/

if a player hasn't done anything for a certain period of time they simply hide him afaik and if he then plays again they make him visible again and give him a higher uncertainty rating or something



fraer has been playing in a tourney every three weeks or so, but he simply doesn't train and therefore loses all the time



:D if a player hasn't done anything for a certain period of time they simply hide him afaik and if he then plays again they make him visible again and give him a higher uncertainty rating or somethingfraer has been playing in a tourney every three weeks or so, but he simply doesn't train and therefore loses all the time the DotA curse :D

KalWarkov Profile Blog Joined December 2011 Germany 3911 Posts #6 On May 13 2013 08:35 StarVe wrote:

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On May 13 2013 08:28 KalWarkov wrote:

On May 13 2013 08:23 StarVe wrote:

stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my heart



he may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose points



I mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30. stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my hearthe may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose pointsI mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30.



well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player following

doesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/ well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player followingdoesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/

if a player hasn't done anything for a certain period of time they simply hide him afaik and if he then plays again they make him visible again and give him a higher uncertainty rating or something



fraer has been playing in a tourney every three weeks or so, but he simply doesn't train and therefore loses all the time



:D if a player hasn't done anything for a certain period of time they simply hide him afaik and if he then plays again they make him visible again and give him a higher uncertainty rating or somethingfraer has been playing in a tourney every three weeks or so, but he simply doesn't train and therefore loses all the time the DotA curse :D



i know that he plays dota, i randomly played against him in matchmaking i know that he plays dota, i randomly played against him in matchmaking DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM WoL/HotS/LotV | Dota2 - Offlane/5: peak 5.8k solo | Wc3 - Undead: 2007/2008/2016/2017/2018 ~rank 100 W3A/Bnet, ~60% winrate | Diablo 2 / Grim Dawn / PoE nerd - Melee Classes | Leffen/Ice, MCarlsen, BVB <3 | Agnostic***

igay Profile Blog Joined November 2011 Australia 1177 Posts #7 It's gotta be nani MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3

StarGalaxy Profile Joined March 2011 Germany 743 Posts Last Edited: 2013-05-14 11:34:25 #8 --scrap that-- Cj hero | Zest

Grovbolle Profile Blog Joined July 2011 Denmark 3777 Posts #9 On May 13 2013 08:28 KalWarkov wrote:

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On May 13 2013 08:23 StarVe wrote:

stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my heart



he may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose points



I mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30. stop mentioning fraer as coming close, you're breaking my hearthe may have maintained a decent rank in aligulac, but that's because he hasn't played enough to lose pointsI mean, he's played like five ladder games in the last two weeks and lost 0-2 0-4 in some Russian tourney he got invited to, I assure you that he isn't even close to coming close to top 30.



well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player following

doesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/ well, replace him with BlinG in your mind then, he would be the next player followingdoesnt alligulac lower the points when a player is inactive for too long? if not, thats a bit sad :/

After being inactive for a long enough period we remove him untill he plays again.

You have to play a decent amount of games to keep the uncertainty down though.

High uncertainty means that a single loss will lose you a lot of points. After being inactive for a long enough period we remove him untill he plays again.You have to play a decent amount of games to keep the uncertainty down though.High uncertainty means that a single loss will lose you a lot of points. Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com

Bunn Profile Blog Joined September 2010 Estonia 875 Posts #10 I think Verdi should be in top 30, and Naniwa 1st. "There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee

KalWarkov Profile Blog Joined December 2011 Germany 3911 Posts Last Edited: 2013-05-13 11:11:33 #11



Lucifron is first on aligulac

Naniwa is 10th on aligulac.



That catapults Lucifron to rank 1!



You can see this by knowing this









Although i have to say that i am a bit surpised about everyone agreeing on Naniwa being first - you cant forget that TLO 2-0ed him in WCS groupstage.



My personal top 10 wouldve looked like this nevertheless (without counting in aligulac):

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1. NaNiWa

2. Lucifron

3. Stephano

4. SaSe

5. Scarlett

6. VortiX

7. Kas

8. MaNa

9. Nerchio

10. TLO



1.NaNiWa2.Lucifron3.Stephano4.SaSe5.Scarlett6.VortiX7.Kas8.MaNa9.Nerchio10.TLO





Here the aligulac foreigner ranking for you (might have already changed from yesterday a tiny bit, and again, note that i exclude chinese/taiwanese):



http://www.aligulac.com/periods/84/?page=1&sort=&race=ptzrs&nats=foreigners







Oh - and to some guys:

read the introduction before posting on reddit!







thanks for all the feedback, will try to keep it up!

ye, i have nani on 1, luci on 2, but as you can see:Lucifron is first on aligulacNaniwa is 10th on aligulac.That catapults Lucifron to rank 1!Although i have to say that i am a bit surpised about everyone agreeing on Naniwa being first - you cant forget that TLO 2-0ed him in WCS groupstage.My personal top 10 wouldve looked like this nevertheless (without counting in aligulac):Here the aligulac foreigner ranking for you (might have already changed from yesterday a tiny bit, and again, note that i exclude chinese/taiwanese):Oh - and to some guys:read the introduction before posting on reddit!thanks for all the feedback, will try to keep it up! DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM WoL/HotS/LotV | Dota2 - Offlane/5: peak 5.8k solo | Wc3 - Undead: 2007/2008/2016/2017/2018 ~rank 100 W3A/Bnet, ~60% winrate | Diablo 2 / Grim Dawn / PoE nerd - Melee Classes | Leffen/Ice, MCarlsen, BVB <3 | Agnostic***

clementdudu Profile Joined September 2010 France 785 Posts #12 when was the last time stephano wasnt first?

StarVe Profile Joined June 2011 Germany 12278 Posts #13 On May 14 2013 01:26 clementdudu wrote:

when was the last time stephano wasnt first?

never happened before never happened before

StarVe Profile Joined June 2011 Germany 12278 Posts Last Edited: 2013-05-15 19:27:16 #14 Poll: Who is the best foreigner?



NaNiWa (73)

52%



Lucifron (41)

29%



Stephano (26)

19%



140 total votes (73)52%(41)29%(26)19%140 total votes Your vote: Who is the best foreigner? (Vote): NaNiWa

(Vote): Lucifron

(Vote): Stephano





So what now? :p So what now? :p

Irrational_Animal Profile Joined August 2010 Germany 1056 Posts #15 Why is Kas so highly placed? I think overall he has gotten a bit weaker compared to WOL. Similar things might be said about Scarlett (though it`s mostly her wrists).

StarVe Profile Joined June 2011 Germany 12278 Posts #16 On May 16 2013 05:08 Irrational_Animal wrote:

Why is Kas so highly placed? I think overall he has gotten a bit weaker compared to WOL. Similar things might be said about Scarlett (though it`s mostly her wrists).

he's done quite well this week, 2-0 SortOf, 2-0 MC, 3-1 TheStC, 2-0 Stephano, 5-1 Happy, etc. he's done quite well this week, 2-0 SortOf, 2-0 MC, 3-1 TheStC, 2-0 Stephano, 5-1 Happy, etc.

Xoronius Profile Joined July 2011 Germany 6360 Posts #17 I think Heromarine should definitly be in there, at Eizo Cup, he went 7-7 in a group with Kas, Stephano, Bly, Grubby and Krass and finished above everyone but Kas there. After that he beat Socke and lost to Lucifron only 3-2, and made it a lot closer, than MVP was able to. Other than that, it looks quite ok, Happy could maybe be a bit higher, but the ranking was written before his WCS group. Also Sase may be a bit to high.

KalWarkov Profile Blog Joined December 2011 Germany 3911 Posts #18 new ranking on friday! DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM WoL/HotS/LotV | Dota2 - Offlane/5: peak 5.8k solo | Wc3 - Undead: 2007/2008/2016/2017/2018 ~rank 100 W3A/Bnet, ~60% winrate | Diablo 2 / Grim Dawn / PoE nerd - Melee Classes | Leffen/Ice, MCarlsen, BVB <3 | Agnostic***

Irrational_Animal Profile Joined August 2010 Germany 1056 Posts #19 Looking forward to it since WCS has shaken the EU scene up bit quite a bit.

KalWarkov Profile Blog Joined December 2011 Germany 3911 Posts #20 cant make it today, has to be done on sunday. DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM WoL/HotS/LotV | Dota2 - Offlane/5: peak 5.8k solo | Wc3 - Undead: 2007/2008/2016/2017/2018 ~rank 100 W3A/Bnet, ~60% winrate | Diablo 2 / Grim Dawn / PoE nerd - Melee Classes | Leffen/Ice, MCarlsen, BVB <3 | Agnostic***