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"Trouble in Texas: Misinformation Given About Straight Party Voting Leads to Lost Votes"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 10/21/2008 @ 3:16 pm PT...





Oh, but the gov't appointed election protection committees say say this is ok because EVMs are the way to go for the future. We can suffer through a few minor glitches, they say. They say all the activists are koo-koo, that hardly anyone is being disenfranchised. *aaarrrggghhh* As to this article ... my understanding is that straight-ticket voting on EVMs disenfranchises the voter from a vote for the presidential candidate. This is built into the machine's programming, right? And this is the way it should be???? Oh Help me somebody.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... John Gideon said on 10/21/2008 @ 3:27 pm PT...





Kira Help is here. When you choose Straight party voting in Texas it votes for all partisan races, including President. Other states are different. You can find out about straight party voting in your state HERE Ellen Theisen of VotersUnite has talked to election officials in all of the straight-party states and learned that many of them did not understand their own laws. The big picture on straight-party is that the voters should skip the option and vote for each race; but vote for each race they should.

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 10/21/2008 @ 3:53 pm PT...





Thanks for the response John Gideon [one of my heroes ] I was thinking about this song [selected lyrics]: Help Me Somebody

NRBQ Everybody's looking for a brand new day

Everybody's looking for a brand new way Help me somebody,

Oh help me please 'Cuz as a matter of fact,

I'm getting real tired of your act,

Help me somebody I know you, you know me too

How am I ever gonna stop you doing those things you do? Everybody's looking for a brand new day

Everybody's looking for a brand new way Help me somebody, Help me somebody,

Oh help me please 'Cuz as a matter of fact,

I'm getting real tired of your act, Help me somebody, Help me somebody, please ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am glad you posted the links for those who might not know about all these shenanigans. And THANK YOU for ALL YOU DO!!!

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 10/21/2008 @ 3:57 pm PT...





John, I hope you're still checking the comments ... Do you [or anybody commenting here] have a link to information that shows the REAL history of problems with Paper Ballots - not the voting machine propaganda. I know I've seen data compiled somewhere, but can't seem to find it.

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... TEDEGER said on 10/21/2008 @ 4:28 pm PT...





There is a problem with paper ballots - it happened many years ago in an election I was involved in. If paper ballots are 'inadvertently' left outside during a rainstorm, they get ruined.

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 10/21/2008 @ 4:42 pm PT...





Tedeger #5 If we used the tried and true Canadian method, the paper ballots would be counted immediately after the election in plain view of the public and in about 4 hours. The entire process from start to finish is done securely and transparently and costs only a few dollars per vote --- the cost per vote with the EVMs is $54-plus. Along with the rest of the malfeasance - priceless.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... John Gideon said on 10/21/2008 @ 4:43 pm PT...





Kira, Other than TEDEGER's comments I have no idea where to go for a history of problems. I've never seen one.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... wereallinthistogether said on 10/21/2008 @ 8:07 pm PT...





Since all electronic voting machines contain features specifically designed to throw elections, I've been wondering where the specification to do that came from? And how widespread was the practice before that (going back 100 or so years)? I'd bet that at least a few elections have been thrown the hard way; I remember the thought of a recount, before IBM cards, was daunting, so they seemed to be rare. Races lost by a few hundred votes went unchallenged. No, I'm barely old enough to have seen this, but my first several ballots involved a stamp pad and a rubber X stamp and a big sheet of paper put into a big box.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Obama08 said on 10/21/2008 @ 8:24 pm PT...





My sister and I are poll greeters in Irving. We are giving people the correct straight ticket info - that they DO vote for Obama when they select the straight Democratic Party box. A lot of people have heard this malicious info, and we're happy to set them straight. Be assured that Obama Dallas is all over this.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 10/21/2008 @ 10:58 pm PT...





Obama08 comment #9 says it's ok to vote the straight ticket. Texas Democrats Org. gives more information. Apparently, if you vote the straight ticket you should NOT go back and check any other box - if you do, the machine unchecks your vote for president. Gotta get rid of these machines.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 10/21/2008 @ 11:33 pm PT...





But, PERSONALLY --- I wouldn't risk voting straight ticket. It's all just too important this time around.

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... SillyGit said on 10/22/2008 @ 1:30 am PT...





@wereallinthistogether Since all electronic voting machines contain features specifically designed to throw elections, I've been wondering where the specification to do that came from? All four EVM manufacturers are managed by reich wing @ssholes who can trace their pure Republican ancestry all the way back to Adam and Eve. I think that this answers that question. (Yes, I know that the GOP doesn't really go back that far, but these folks believe in Creationism and other miscellaneous fairy tales, so we have to just nod and say "Whatever.") There has probably always been election fraud to some extent. Richard Daley is supposed to have used his political machine in Chicago to win the 1960 election for Kennedy. They say that all the folks in every cemitary in Chicago voted for Kennedy. The Chicago Democratic machine also brought us the line Vote Early - Vote Often. Brad and John can probably point to sources of info on election fraud. I'm here because, like Brad, I know that the EVMs have to be replaced by a transparent process or else we can kiss democracy goodbye (if we haven't already).

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 10/22/2008 @ 1:59 am PT...





Ain't there a modified tree chipper machine to grind up all the electronic voting machines yet? I would like to invest in that company!

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 10/22/2008 @ 2:01 am PT...





Hell, I would like to just film it!!

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... txVoter said on 10/22/2008 @ 11:34 am PT...





What is wrong with simply skipping the 'straight party' vote and just voting in each race? If there is a question, that is definitely the way to go. I voted yesterday using the e-voting machines in Austin, and there is a screen at the end of the process to verify your vote in each race before hitting the 'cast ballot' button. It's not rocket science!

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Dean said on 10/23/2008 @ 11:44 pm PT...

