@aaronsullivan The thing about TV out is it already worked over the same USB-C port on the same chips in the Lite that are in the Switch. Nintneod must have gone out of their way to break something they worked hard to implement. Hard in that the Switch dies on 3rd party USB-C docks and only properly outputs to a TV on theirs. So why break that now? Well I know there are reasons - a $200 Switch Lite with TV out eats into $300 Switch sales - but from a consumer standpoint it looks like they broke it on purpose, b/c well yeah they did break it on purpose to force you to buy a more expensive system. Apple must be proud.

It was never going to fit into the dock, I've known that for 2 1/2 years, thumbsticks get in the way, and a smaller dock is just stupid, then it's just a Switch Mini at $290, and a Mini-HDMI out port is just begging for a lawsuit - why do we even need a dock, just give us a Switch w/ HDMI out - but an extender cable to the dock could be made available for a price.

Here's 1 for $10 getting good reviews on Amazon, lots of photos too, even explaining how it's for people who like to keep a case on their Switch for portable play. So if this doesn't work on the Lite they literally did go our of their way to break it, no ifs, ands or buts.

https://www.amazon.com/FYOUNG-Extender-Nintendo-Support-Transfer/dp/B072LWBYDV

Last TV out point. They will almost certainly argue this keeps power consumption down as the system only does 720p, it doesn't need to upscale to 1080p for TV out, therefore less heat and less fan. But there are already a ton of games on TV systems at 720p, just put the caveat out there, this only outputs to the TV at 720p max. People can live with 720p or spend the extra $100 on a full Switch. 720p > no tv out. System can't get any hotter outputting to the TV I don't imagine, no heat from the screen.

Next email.

"Oh, and this is a perfect “second switch”"

No, it isn't. I spent the day thinking about it and 20 minutes discussing it with my son. The Switch is the perfect 2nd Switch, Nintneod just wants us to think this is. This is actually the perfect Switch for someone who doesn't own a TV or wants to collect lots of cheaper collectors editions. But if you already own a Switch, another Switch is the better 2nd Switch.

Why you ask, well I'll tell you. Joycon. Is that 1 word or 2?

When you own a Switch and want to play 4 player couch MK8D or SSBU or Kirby you need another set of $80 Joycon. When you have a Switch in the dock you can take off the Joycon and bring them to school or a tournament or a friends house and the Switch in the dock can still be used with the touchscreen. Or with a $15 wired faux Pro. When you buy a 2nd Switch Lite for the kid and want to play 3 or 4 player SSBU or MK8D you need to still either buy an $80 pair of Joycon or a 2nd copy of the game for $60 to play local wireless. When your kid brings his Lite to school to play with his friends, well he can't, b/c the Lite wont' work as another controller (I asked). So if your kid wants to play with another kid on their Switch they'll either need an extra $80 pair of Joycon or their own copy of the game. Or bring your Switch Joycon, leaving you without Joycon on the docked Switch.

So besides no dock in the box, or Grip, or HDMI cable, or straps (retailing for $8 per pair) there really aren't any Joycon in the box either. Sure, Lite looks like it has attached Joycon, but attached Joycon arne't Joycon, they are just buttons on the Switch body. Joycon have batteries and Bluetooth antenna and little LED lights, and HD Rumble and IR. (And slide off the Switch so the Switch can fit in 1 pocket, Joycon in another, making the Switch actually more portable and pocketable than the Lite. ) Nintendo didn't take all of that out of the Lite's Joycon, they literally took the Joycon out of the box and just tacked on some basic controls.

And while that may be an overly negative viewpoint, the reality is, you buy 1 $300 Switch, you get 2 $40 Joycon controllers for 2 player couch co-op or vs in the box. Switch has two $40 controllers in the box, $80 total. The Lite has at most 1 $40 controller, so even for basic 2 player games you need to spend another $40 on another Joycon to get as many controllers as you get with the standard Switch which gives you 2 fully functioning controllers in the box for $300. Mini gives you 1. That's not just negative spin, it's math.

So $200 Switch Lite is missing a dock, ~$40, $15 Grip, $8 straps, $2 HDMI cable, and a 2nd $40 controller for player 2 from the $300 Switch. Plus you lose the ability to ever hook it up to a TV.

$300 Switch is a better 2nd Switch option than $200 Lite with no tv out and only 1 controller. Lite is better if you don't own a TV and only play alone.

$229 Switch w/ 2 Joycon and charger, no dock, Grip, HDMI cable or straps would really be the perfect 2nd Switch, or first portable Switch, but why sell that when you can sell the Switch for $300 and Lite for $200?