LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): How does CNN defend having Lemon moderate this debate? I mean, just proclaiming Trump, you know, someone who traffics in racial division, I mean, that was actually a question.

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RUDY GIULIANI (PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP LAWYER): I think being called a racist now is not what it was 10, 20 years ago. I think they've demeaned it. I don't know what the American people even think a racist is anymore, because it's used all the time. Frankly, I don't worry for my friend, the president, about false charges. He will have plenty of opportunities over the next year to show -- first, he's not a racist. False charges can always be dismissed.