CAHILL: “I’m a big fan of answering upfront and digressing from there, so yes, I was big time actually. You could say that I was a UFO nerd my whole life up until that point. My experience in 2004 had an effect opposite to what many other people report. Rather than an awakening, I went back to sleep. I had already been a curious and spiritually skeptical person, but that went hand-in-hand with an open mind that saw an immense universe of possibility. I thought that the chain of command’s response, and seeming uncaring attitude spelled out that what we had seen was a known asset to the bigger machine. At the time I thought that meant our own technology. That frankly pissed me off. It was utter bullshit that not a single head turned above position (If I can't swear here you have to change the name to Light Rock and UFOs) I thought that it was because it was above my pay-grade. I think in the end the problem wasn't pay-grade; it was clearance. What I lacked was the clearance to know that this was a real and embarrassing problem that we did not want to be shouted from the rooftops, pardon the pun but it was still unidentified. I think I had it right and wrong at the same time, I think that duality is key to getting to the bottom of this.

Catching up with nine years of history was tough. Your blog was one of the first I relied on to get up to speed with recent UAP history. It’s a pleasure to finally talk to you ‘face-to-face.’ I will never forget waking up one-morning last winter, and seeing an e-mail from Lue Elizondo to Kevin Day on your blog. I remember Lue and I walking across the parking lot at the hotel in Ensenada after a long day of interviews. We called Kevin to fill him in, and let him know we were down south following up on his lead, but his inbox was full and we had to e-mail him!”



Q: What do you say to those who downplay the professional opinions of yourself, and other military personnel?

CAHILL: “I take a deep breath and then I don’t say anything. It’s tough man; I’m not The Buddha, try as I might I’m still affected by fear just like anyone, and I get mad sometimes at some of these folks... Folks who have never left their chair, their lab, their garage, and in some cases their own mind. They rely on research they did years ago in subjects that have evolved so much that they no longer resemble anything like the cutting edge that inspired them. I can dig what it feels like to think you know something you can't, that you think you should. The fact is these folks are fearful and wrong; fearful they will lose the esteem they enjoy, or fear the loss of their livelihood. Worse yet, their reputations are on the line. It’s unfortunate. There is room for everyone. The world will move on. I can’t remember any of the Wright Brother’s critics either so...

Q:What was the experience like on “Unidentified” and what would you like to see shows like it cover in the future?

CAHILL:” Surreal doesn't come close. From my point of view, the show is a painting, each of us in front of the camera makes up the paint with the storytellers as the brushes. I had to come to terms with the idea that there are possibly hundreds of hours of footage,and details that may never come to light, but the overarching message is far stronger than the details. When I asked Lue in July of 2018 to take me with him, to solve this... I didn't realize that the team would take a shared ‘Jungian Hero’s Journey,’ and distill it down to an hour arch in between commercials, but at the same time while they filmed these little vignettes around people like me, Kev, Gary and the fellas on the east coast, the world happened around Lue, Tom, Chris, Steve and TTSA as a whole. They made the U.S. Navy change course. I have a framed cover of the Navy Times that says so on the wall of my office. That's mic-drop territory right there.

I think the future is a shared conversation. If we the public give this subject back to the intelligence folks, and the military-industrial complex to manage on their own in the dark then it will be managed completely by fear. I think there is an unknown here that we must defend against until it shows its self to be a benefactor we can trust in a way we can verify. The people who came before did the best they could with what they had; our culture has a long history of shooting the messenger and shaming the pioneers as they sail away. That would be a mistake to continue. We need courageous acts in the neighborhood and at the dinner table. Ask Grandma what she has seen and listen with an open heart. If we give our elders a chance to speak in safety and love then we often find our own voice is stronger and the common ground that bridges the years. “