We asked 49ers season-ticket holders whether they felt they deserved a refund given the continued state of football affairs in Santa Clara.

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Steve Young says Yorks concerned with money not winning; scoffs at Dilfer It was an idea Tim Kawakami put out there two years ago when Jed York replaced Jim Harbaugh with Jim Tomsula and assured fans he knew what he was doing and everything would be okay.

Here’s what the 49ers faithful had to say…

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I want my PSL money back, $4,000. My wife became handicapped early this year. She can’t walk from the HC parking area to our seats, 12 rows up ! I listed the PSL’s for sale at what I paid for them, no buyers. So I had to purchase season tickets or lose my PSL’s, no buyers came forward for our 50 yard line seats.

We’ve had season tickets for almost 50 years through the bad and the good years. Levi Stadium is not a safe place, the bathroom fight was right under our section. The Bud light Patio is full of punks looking for a fight. And the biggest issue is the SUN, you just can’t sit there when its HOT.

Thanks for writing about this, keep it up. Jed and His Family have the money for a one-time payback!

Joe & Jackie Fazzio

San Jose CA

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I am currently a PSL holder for 2 seats. I say currently because I do not plan on renewing my season tickets next year, which will make me lose my PSLs. The only possibility for me renewing season tickets is for the Yorks to step away from football operations. If Jed York or his parents are involved in football operations, then I feel the only way to show my displeasure is by eliminating one small piece of their revenue. I’m hoping many more do the same, because I’m fairly certain that is the only way to get the message across.

For me it’s not about the money either. I would rather not sell the PSLs to another person so that the Yorks are guaranteed to lose a season ticket holder. If they offered some sort of refund, then i would gladly take it so long as I do not have to keep my season tickets or PSLs. Again, the only way I will renew my season tickets is if the Yorks are no longer involved in football operations.

Jordan Lewis

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Sold my PSL this week — and I’m done!

I’d like to say first off I am 56 years old and attended my first game in the Christopher Milk Section at old Kezar Stadium. My father and his group were original season ticket holders since 1946 and us kids used to tag along and enjoy the games for free. I have had season tickets since 1976 when I became too old for the Berkeley Farms free section at Candlestick and had to pay my own way.

Eventually I acquired six seats in my name and enjoyed the Old Dump game after game while watching the RAIL IN FRONT OF ME move inches closer thru the years as it literally was falling apart. I was so excited when Levi’s was approved and was dumb enough to plunk down my full $12K the very first day they met with season ticket holders.

Many times we have read abut the sun issues but nobody seems to mention how much smaller the seats are than Candlestick’s. The next time you watch a game take a look at the adult men sitting with their arms crossed in front of them because they have no room. It’s great the stadium is green but why couldn’t we use the seats from Candlestick that were left over that never sold? The answer is if they did reuse thehuman-sizedd seats from Candlestick then Levi’s would only seat 50K as these are that much smaller and tighter.

Yes, we were all fooled into thinking Jed knew what he was doing finally and it seems once that stadium got built it all went down hill quickly as Jed went from Hero to Zero. I will always be a 49er fan but finally gave up and sold my PSLs this week as I’ve had enough and never thought I’d ever say this but … I miss my rail.

George Perasso

Pleasant Hill

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I have four tickets and SBLs at Levi’s Stadium andI totally agree with my fellow season ticket holders and would love to see a refund of some sort, but I really doubt the York’s would even consider doing that.

I did not see anyone mention and would like to bring to your attention, that when we signed up for the SBL and season ticket holder, they indicated they can raise the price of the tickets after the third season at Levi’s. This is the third season, so have TK or one of your reporters ask the 49ers or the Yorks if they are planning on raising the price of the season tickets? (That would really go over well with the Faithful LOL). Also the 49ers are trying to lower their rent at Levi’s, so that would be very interesting if they get that and then raise the ticket prices. If they did that, then Steve Young’s comment about only be interested in making money instead of building a winner is very true.

For your information I am a season ticket holder since 1979 and have been through the ups and downs, but what makes this downturn so difficult is that it is costing me a lot of money. When they had bad years at the Stick the cost of the tickets was reasonable and now I am losing a fortune.

I am a Faithful but ownership is really pushing me and I don’t like it.

Alan S. Jacobs

San Bruno

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I think giving back PSL money is a little extreme and I don’t see the Yorks ever doing that. I am a current PSL owner at Levi Stadium in section 420 and after the last few weeks it has been tough to watch the Niners play. The Patriots had more fans in our stadium and there was a lot of empty seats at the Jets game. I would suggest that season ticket holders should have the option to forfeit their game tickets to the 49ers for a 15% credit towards next year’s tickets. Then the Niners could resell these tickets to try and avoid empty seats. The 49ers should also reward the faithful fans who attend all the games by gifting free seat upgrades. Try to load the lower bowl with faithful fans and attempt to create a home field advantage. Would I sell back my PSLs? Only if I could upgrade my seats to a lower location that would suit my needs. So the short answer is no.

Paul Zamora

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I am one of those PSL owner’s that agree 100% with TK and would love it if Jed York would hold himself accountable like he promised and issue us a full refund. This is a joke. I paid $30K for each PSL in section C139. I have two seats. That’s $60K that I financed and am still paying $5,900 every March for who knows how much longer.

And I feel that the 49ers committed borderline fraud when they sold me those PSL’s. Why do I say this? Well I’m no lawyer or anything like that. But the day they sold me the PSL’s they brought in Jim Harbaugh to greet and meet me. We all know that was to seal the deal of the sale. Then I come to find out that they were already in conversations with the Cleveland Browns to trade him. In other words, the little pissy war had begun between York & Balke vs Harbaugh. Yet they were using him like a pawn to sell PSLs in their meet and greet sessions with Harbaugh.

It has gotten miserable to go to Levi’s Stadium to watch that terrible product knowing what I paid for those stupid PSL’s, not to mention the $750 per game (2 seats) that they get me for every week.

#FAITHFUL #MISERABLE

Luis Marengo

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We would gladly like a refund. We regret being conned into purchasing our three seats. Even though I love the Niners, I am pretty upset with their decisions of coaches and players. There are no perks in owning seats. I just wish I could turn back time and not become season ticket holders.

Tu Nguyen and Linda Tang

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I’m a PSL holder / sucker.

Jed’s done a fine job of making money for his family. He’s done a terrible job of making a good product for his customers. I suppose they have great laughs at our expense on a daily basis.

It’s unfortunate that owners can’t be fired. It’s also unfortunate that owners don’t have to understand anything about the sport of football to own a team.

Incompetent Owner leads to an Incompetent Front Office results in, well, you can figure out the rest. Hiring Jim Harbaugh definitely was an incredible stroke of good fortune that Jed promptly frittered away. If you doubt the impact of ownership, look at the instant turnaround of the Warriors once they were acquired by capable owners. In contrast, the Yorks are the Trumps of football.

I wish I’d never been sold the bill of goods that is the San Francisco 49ers. We’ve listed our PSLs for about half what we paid for them, and given the product on the field, I don’t expect to receive such a “generous” amount for them. So we’ll lose thousands of dollars, and Jed makes out like a bandit. Thanks for nothing, Jed.

Nik Bhatt

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As a life-long 49ers fan, it’s unbearable to watch the current product fielded on game days. Over the course of the last 30 years, I’ve been watching the 49ers play in a substandard venue (Candlestick) and then now a state of the art facility (Levi’s).

I long for the Candlestick park teams, where you knew the 49ers were going to show up to play. The current quarterback stinks, the drafts have been horrendous and there is no end in sight. Having been naive enough to purchase my season tickets on the sunny side of the field, also makes for a miserable experience.

Let’s gut the building and start from scratch. As season ticket holders we pay good, hard earned $$$ to watch competitive football. Find a QB, draft a line and get some solid receivers and the team will be on an upward swing. Since SF is no longer the destination of choice for free agents, practice what the Raiders did a few years back — pay talent to play.

Get out of this mess or refund the PSL fees. Watching the Niners play is death by a 1,000 cuts…

George Vukcevich

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The walls were adorned with pictures of current 49er greats. “The future is looking great,” said our sales guy. And at the time, I believed him. The sales pitch was easy. Surrounding us on the walls were Harbaugh, Willis, Gore, Smith, Crabtree, Aldon and Justin. But now — the centerpieces of their sales pitch — are all gone. The promise of what was offered will likely never be delivered. I feel defrauded…and every year, when the PSL fees are due, I wonder if I should default, or somehow rally my fellow PSL holders to boycott or file a class-action suit.

John Paul Capulong

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I appreciate Mr. Kawakami speaking on behalf of frustrated SBL holders. I have been a 49er season ticket holder since 2006, and made the move to Levi’s Stadium. Being a season ticket holder was a dream since childhood, and something that I was able to realize when time and personal finances finally allowed. I do not want to walk away from my SBL…I love watching live NFL football. I am not really angry, but deeply saddened by the current state of this team. I would like to see York “make good” with loyal fans such as myself and many thousands more. How about giving us a price cut on tickets until this team at least gets back to the playoffs. Hell, at this point, I would even take a Wildcard playoff one and done…things are that bad. In any case, I believe and agree that money is the accountability metric. A price cut might engender some needed goodwill with loyal fans. But alas, this idea might be more unreal than childhood dreams.

Mark Cameron

Livermore

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Please keep the heat on the 49ers. I am an SBL owner and I can’t even sell my $20,000 seats for $2,000 each. I am 68 years old and a 49er fan since moving here in the 70’s and I have been hoodwinked.

Thomas F. Powers

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As a 10-year season ticket holder, and having paid in full for four upper reserve seats (a total of $8,000), I know Jed won’t be refunding SBL’s. But what about reducing season ticket prices?

The Browns and Jaguars (comparable teams) 2016 upper corner end zone season ticket seats are pegged at $500…do you think the Yorks will show their “faithfulness” to the Faithful season ticket holders in 2017?

The internet shows Denise York being worth 4.2 billion dollars and Jed York worth $100 million…if they don’t reduce season tickets ( for upper corner end zone seats) to be in line with what the Browns and Jags charge, then the Yorks need to omit any “faithful” wording in their branding.

Rick G

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York has sucked the life out of our team. We deserve a refund solely because of mismanagement. We were promised one thing. Then received another, a poorly managed team and facility. York does not care about the fans. This is evident by the lack of consideration for those who pay for season tickets to watch a professional team.

I would I like a refund for the last two years? ABSOLUTELY! Even if it was just for the SBL and not the tickets.

It is mandatory to buy tickets if you are an SBL member. If you do not buy tickets, all money spent on the SBL is forfeited…we are being gouged. I don’t want to buy tickets because no one will buy them at face value. I can’t even give them away.

I LOVE the NINERS! That will never change. I don’t love the way fans are being overcharged for events they are disappointed in going to or dread going to. Not all of the teams are going to win. I understand that.

How does an organization go from No.1 to last place in two years, MISMANAGEMENT and a lack of leadership from the owners. Too many excuses and not enough results.

I’m writing because so many fans are disappointed with Jed & Trent. It would behoove York to fire Trent and then do some serious soul (if he has one) searching. The NINERS were built on pride, hard work and dedication. Currently, the front office of the NINERS is not fulfilling their obligation to fans, their team and the NFL by doing such an injustice to us all.

Joshua Watson-Mitchell

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I am a SBL holder and very upset how things have turned out for this team. The management headed by Jed York has driven this team off a cliff and does not care about the SBL holders. They know we are forced to buy tickets because of the high price of the SBL. We are treated like crap from York doing what he did to the season ticket reps that don’t return phone calls or emails.

What does it mean to be a 49ers SBL holder? Idiots that pay full price for tickets, have no rights to anything and are just being used to fill the pockets of the Yorks. They paid to sit in the sun, be uncomfortable, and watch a terrible product. And be embarrassed how the 49ers org interacts with the girl scouts, youth soccer and the city of Santa Clara.

If there are no acceptable changes to the front office and upper management, I will walk away from my SBLs this coming year. Screw it! half of my SBLs are paid off, the other ones are financed. They can come sue me if they want for the rest of their money. Why would I keep spending $6k a year on tickets for a crap product, just to see the smug faces of the Yorks count their money?

Anselmo Ontiveros

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As a PSL holder, I’m not happy about the current state of the 49ers. I don’t think I’ll be sending my payment in when they invoice me. There needs to be some major changes.

Kevin Prasad

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Great article, but there is NO WAY we season ticket holders will ever get a rebate or partial refund on our PSLs. Several people have already walked away from their tickets and deferred payment plans, leaving the 49ers holding the bag on these unpaid PSLs. Instead, I would suggest that the 49ers continue to defer raising season ticket prices. When we signed up for season tickets and our PSLs, they agreed to not raise ticket prices for three years. This ends at the end of the abysmal 2016 season, so in theory they will raise our ticket prices with our 2017 renewals. In order to avoid a mutiny by the loyal (or stupid?) fans who continue to renew, I suggest they defer raising prices until the team has a winning record the previous season. Sound like a plan??

Dan Hunter

San Jose

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I am and always will be a 49ER Fan for life. Even if management, front office and York are still around. While management and the front office may be falling apart, I root for the players to stay healthy and win every Sunday. They put in work, and play hard through thick and thicker. If they are staying family and working together through all the losses and bad times, then I feel that they need the fan base to be with them and have their backs 100%. Consider me all in!

Second, Sure they could refund the money to PSL holders, but what about fans that don’t have the thousands of dollars to buy PSLs? Fans like me, have to save up just to attend (1) game paying somewhere around $200 a ticket. Can the common fan be compensated in a way too? Our stadium seems to be a laughing joke as well. Sunshine during day games giving people heat stroke, outrageous prices for drinks and food, outrageous parking lot ticket prices!! Come on!! All this crap for what? Candlestick was waaaaaaaaaay better.

Here we have Jed saying hold me accountable, yet no one has seen the hermit in months. Come out Jed, Fire Balke, Apologize to the fan base for letting go of Harbaugh, admit that was a mistake, and relinquish your power and give it back to someone who can get along and play well with others. BOOM!

John Martinez – A 49er Faithful!!!

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Hi – I am one of those PSL owner’s that agree 100% with TK and would love it if Jed York would hold himself accountable like he promised and issue us a full refund. This is a joke. I paid $30K for each PSL in section C139. I have two seats. That’s $60K that I financed and am still paying $5,900 every March for who knows how much longer.

And I feel that the 49ers committed border line fraud when they sold me those PSL’s. Why do I say this? Well I’m no lawyer or anything like that. But the day they sold me the PSL’s; they brought in Jim Harbaugh to greet and meet me. We all know that was to seal the deal of the sale. Then I come to find out that they were already in conversations with the Cleveland Browns to trade him to them. In other words, the little pissy war had begun between York & Balke vs Harbaugh. Yet they were using him like a pond to sell PSL’s in their meet and greet sessions with Harbaugh. Now what is wrong with that picture? I’d say they sold me a pack of goods all the while knowing it. That’s why I say it’s border line FRAUD.

Anyhow, I sure hope they find a way to hold Jed York and his family accountable. Which I doubt. It has gotten miserable to go to Levis Stadium to watch that terrible product knowing what I paid for those stupid PSL’s not to mention the $750 per game (2 seats) that they get me for every week.

#FAITHFUL MISERABLE

Luis Marengo

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I agree with your idea that offering a refund to SBL holders would be a good way for Jed York to hold himself accountable for the team’s failures since Coach Harbaugh was let go. I have no doubt many SBL owners would chomp at the bit at such a possibility. I have 2 SBLs in C139 for which I paid $60K, and as tempting as it would be for me to take him up on such an offer, I would politely decline. I still enjoy going to the games in the new stadium and the Club level is a really nice place to watch a game, whether it be with family, friends or business contacts. Obviously I would like to see a better product on the field, but I am a die-hard, faithful fan and I support the team under any circumstances. It wasn’t that long ago that I was attending games in decrepit Candlestick Park and watching pitiful teams led by Dennis Erickson and Mike Nolan, and I was supportive of them at that time too. It didn’t get much worse than those lean years, and that wasn’t really that long ago. Sports is cyclical, teams go through up and down years, and I do believe the 49ers have the potential to be good again in the next few years if they can bring in the correct combination of players, coaches and front office leadership. I am willing to wait for that possibility to come to fruition.

Kingstone Shih

Los Altos

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York had clearly shown he does not have the vision or maturity to make sound football decisions. The Yorks must hire a real football visionary to get out of this mess.

I see so many free Niner game tickets being offered by season ticket holders that I could go to at least six games for free in a season. The funny thing is, I have no desire now to even watch them live for free or on TV.

He needs to hand it over to someone who really cares about the game of football. I never in my lifetime thought that the niners would be the laughing stock of the NFL.

In mounting MISERY,

Steve Harshbarger

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