[ 13 : 21 : 38 ] < swirly > sup man

[ 13 : 24 : 41 ] < vformeh > hello

[ 13 : 25 : 23 ] < swirly > my buddy told me u had info on hykem ?

[ 13 : 26 : 37 ] < vformeh > what buddy ?

[ 13 : 26 : 59 ] < swirly > g 0d b1n

[ 13 : 27 : 34 ] < vformeh > ah that guy

[ 13 : 27 : 51 ] < vformeh > we chatted yesterday

[ 13 : 28 : 32 ] < swirly > plz dont be mad at him

[ 13 : 29 : 03 ] < swirly > we r just worried

[ 13 : 30 : 14 ] < vformeh > with ?

[ 13 : 31 : 29 ] < swirly > hykem ofc

[ 13 : 31 : 48 ] < swirly > i always thought sumtin bad happnd

[ 13 : 32 : 50 ] < vformeh > its like i told your friend

[ 13 : 33 : 14 ] < vformeh > hykem was a good friend of mine

[ 13 : 33 : 47 ] < vformeh > i didnt knew him irl

[ 13 : 34 : 09 ] < vformeh > but we worked on a couple projects togheter

[ 13 : 36 : 19 ] < vformeh > i assume your friend told you the rest no ?

[ 13 : 37 : 33 ] < swirly > nop

[ 13 : 38 : 10 ] < swirly > i followed hykems progress on gbatemp and wiiubrew

[ 13 : 38 : 59 ] < swirly > it was very disappointin to see him leave

[ 13 : 39 : 25 ] < swirly > but my buddy told me you knew a different story

[ 13 : 40 : 37 ] < vformeh > its not a story, its the truth

[ 13 : 41 : 20 ] < swirly > chill man, i believe u

[ 13 : 41 : 49 ] < swirly > i just want to know what went down

[ 13 : 42 : 58 ] < vformeh > hykem got into serious trouble, thats what went down

[ 13 : 43 : 15 ] < swirly > how so ?

[ 13 : 44 : 30 ] < vformeh > he had been working on the wii u for quite a long time

[ 13 : 45 : 01 ] < vformeh > after he pwned the wii u secure os he wanted to release the exploit

[ 13 : 45 : 39 ] < swirly > iosu exploit ?

[ 13 : 46 : 28 ] < vformeh > right

[ 13 : 46 : 44 ] < vformeh > he had it working around november or so and wanted to do a xmas release

[ 13 : 47 : 16 ] < swirly > i know, then he delayed

[ 13 : 48 : 05 ] < vformeh > the reason for that was because the exploit would enable piracy real quick so he thought it would be better to work on a full cfw with antipiracy measures

[ 13 : 49 : 28 ] < vformeh > he did some great progress and shared a lot of info on things like otp and seeprom on wiiudev

[ 13 : 50 : 43 ] < vformeh > of course, your friend thinks he just got the info from someone else

[ 13 : 51 : 19 ] < swirly > yeah, i dont think so though

[ 13 : 52 : 36 ] < vformeh > long story short , the exploit was very real

[ 13 : 53 : 44 ] < vformeh > ask other devs / hackers if you dont believe

[ 13 : 54 : 17 ] < swirly > no need

[ 13 : 56 : 18 ] < swirly > btw, my bud told me u knew the exploits he used ? user and kernel ?

[ 13 : 59 : 22 ] < swirly > ...

[ 14 : 01 : 39 ] < vformeh > no, what i told your friend was that hykem had shared info a long time ago on a bug he was exploiting, way before all this

[ 14 : 02 : 14 ] < swirly > the chicken stuff ?

[ 14 : 03 : 31 ] < vformeh > ye, ctrlchicken

[ 14 : 04 : 12 ] < vformeh > recently there has been this guy o [ ] on wiiudev that found the same bug and was talking about it

[ 14 : 04 : 49 ] < vformeh > found from cos. xml that ppc could call / dev / uhs commands

[ 14 : 05 : 32 ] < vformeh > noticed a bad check on the last 2 ioctls

[ 14 : 06 : 24 ] < vformeh > and one of them is the ctrlchicken thing that hykem used

[ 14 : 07 : 53 ] < swirly > dats user only right ?

[ 14 : 09 : 29 ] < vformeh > yes, like i told g 0d b1n idk what kernel vuln he used

[ 14 : 10 : 15 ] < vformeh > what i said was that plutoo once updated his twitter status with 0xF5AF5AF5AF5A ... a hint for a kernel bug

[ 14 : 10 : 46 ] < vformeh > back when he posted the pic of the key

[ 14 : 11 : 37 ] < swirly > the one with teh red screen ?

[ 14 : 12 : 15 ] < vformeh > yes

[ 14 : 12 : 50 ] < vformeh > no one cared about it, but if u search for 0xF5AF5AF5 in the kernel code now, you will see

[ 14 : 14 : 23 ] < vformeh > thats also why wannabes like wulfystylez are claiming the kernel exploit had been release for a long time and no one noticed

[ 14 : 18 : 47 ] < swirly > just checkd on ida

[ 14 : 18 : 55 ] < swirly > IOS_CreateThread ?

[ 14 : 20 : 11 ] < vformeh > ye

[ 14 : 21 : 03 ] < swirly > sooo with hykems ctrlchicken and this we can pwn iosu ?

[ 14 : 22 : 49 ] < vformeh > probably, idk

[ 14 : 23 : 08 ] < vformeh > not really interested in the wiiu

[ 14 : 24 : 02 ] < swirly > what about hykem ? wheres he ?

[ 14 : 26 : 24 ] < vformeh > gone

[ 14 : 27 : 09 ] < swirly > what u mean ?

[ 14 : 27 : 28 ] < vformeh > he got involved with really bad people

[ 14 : 28 : 14 ] < swirly > nintendo ? lol

[ 14 : 29 : 31 ] < vformeh > no, the exact opposite

[ 14 : 29 : 55 ] < swirly > ow

[ 14 : 30 : 22 ] < swirly > he sold out ?

[ 14 : 31 : 30 ] < vformeh > NO

[ 14 : 31 : 57 ] < vformeh > sry, caps was on

[ 14 : 32 : 34 ] < vformeh > they blackmailed him cuz they had his home address

[ 14 : 33 : 18 ] < vformeh > hykem was in real need for cash so he did think twice about it

[ 14 : 33 : 43 ] < vformeh > but he refused and told me he couldnt betray everyone like that

[ 14 : 34 : 21 ] < vformeh > and thats what got him into trouble

[ 14 : 35 : 04 ] < vformeh > they became aggressive and hykem was afraid

[ 14 : 35 : 51 ] < vformeh > the law got involved

[ 14 : 41 : 26 ] < swirly > shit !

[ 14 : 42 : 11 ] < vformeh > a few other devs know about this too

[ 14 : 48 : 37 ] < vformeh > ask around if u think its bs

[ 14 : 50 : 33 ] < swirly > whos they btw ?

[ 14 : 51 : 16 ] < vformeh > use google, drm piracy guy is always the same

[ 14 : 52 : 24 ] < swirly > ooo i know who u talkin

[ 14 : 52 : 49 ] < swirly > i always tought it was strange

[ 14 : 53 : 31 ] < swirly > why delete his github just to get away from angry kidz ?

[ 14 : 54 : 19 ] < vformeh > exactly

[ 14 : 56 : 10 ] < vformeh > he had many projects there like psxtract, make_npdata and vitasploit

[ 14 : 56 : 45 ] < vformeh > all very useful for a lot of people

[ 14 : 57 : 33 ] < swirly > s0ny had nutin to do with this ?

[ 14 : 58 : 25 ] < vformeh > ofc not, nor nintendo

[ 14 : 59 : 51 ] < swirly > shit, i feel bad for teh guy now

[ 15 : 00 : 09 ] < vformeh > well hes not coming back, ever

[ 15 : 01 : 17 ] < vformeh > last time we talked was days before he closed down his github

[ 15 : 01 : 44 ] < vformeh > he told me he had to vanish and i thought it was all bs

[ 15 : 02 : 31 ] < vformeh > just for fame or somethign

[ 15 : 02 : 48 ] < vformeh > but i was wrong

[ 15 : 04 : 07 ] < swirly > : (

[ 15 : 05 : 12 ] < swirly > wat about the twitter account ?

[ 15 : 06 : 29 ] < vformeh > its fake ofc

[ 15 : 06 : 48 ] < vformeh > its not him

[ 15 : 07 : 11 ] < swirly > k

[ 15 : 10 : 13 ] < vformeh > anything else ?

[ 15 : 11 : 34 ] < swirly > dun think so

[ 15 : 12 : 27 ] < vformeh > ok, goodbye