Hall of Fame player and former executive Joe Dumars joins Adrian Wojnarowski on The Vertical Podcast with Woj.

In his first extended interview since a 14-year run as Detroit Pistons general manager ended in April 2014, Dumars discusses his championship run in the 2000s, the turbulent final seasons, the Rasheed Wallace trade that completed a championship team and the Kobe Bryant deal that never happened.

Dumars expounds on his desire to work as an NBA general manager again, what he’s learned away from the front-office grind and how he’d approach a new challenge.

Dumars also talks about his affection for former Pistons coach Chuck Daly, his childhood in rural Louisiana and an AAU team he played on that included Karl Malone, Benny Anders and Benoit Benjamin.

2:37: Stepping away from the NBA after spending so many years with the Pistons.

5:42: How the dominance of Golden State and Cleveland will impact the trade deadline.

10:48: The trade for Wallace, which pushed the Pistons over the top in 2004.

16:56: Then-coach Larry Brown pushing for the team to acquire Wallace.

21:48: Nearly acquiring Bryant after coming to an agreement with the Lakers.

26:17: How the league has evolved since his playing career in the '80s and '90s, including the elimination of fighting.

30:54: His initial reaction to the Malice in the Palace in 2004.

33:32: Growing up in a football family in rural Louisiana.

37:47: Learning the value of hard work from his father.

40:26: Dumars’ worldview before entering the NBA.

45:39: Daly's importance to his career.

51:30: Evaluating the last few years of his tenure with the Pistons.

55:12: The process that led to drafting Darko Milicic in 2003.

57:50: Wanting to get back into the league in the right situation.

1:00:35: Lessons learned during his time away from the league.

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