CHARLES HOWARD:

Well, wages are going up for me because if he went from $300 two years ago to $425, they haven't went up in his check, but they have went up out of our payroll, out of our expenses. So how do you give someone a price increase or a wage increase, I should say, when you're having to be hit with those increases in insurance that he needs?

I would just hope people who can say the Affordable Health Care Act has worked for me and my health insurance costs have went down exponentially, that they will realize that someone is paying that. Nothing is free.