- Whitlock, you know I love Russ. Is he the MVP of the entire league?

- In my opinion, no question about it. It's Richard Sherman standing on the sidelines, Kam Chancellor standing on the sidelines, and somehow the Seattle Seahawks cooled off the hottest team in football. And it's because of Russell Wilson. The guy is a magician. It's Fran Tarkenton mixed with a little Brett Favre.

Philly came at him in all different kinds of ways. The one time when he got the ball went deep, and it was almost a touchdown, and Philly showed their blitz. And I was like, you don't show Russell Wilson your blitz, 'cause he's a magician. Even if you get there, he's still going to make a play. And I think he's the MVP, no question. I think this guy is headed to the Hall of Fame. And he'll win a second Super Bowl. I don't think it'll be this year, but he'll win a second Super Bowl.

- I could be crazy on this, but coaches have egos. And I like Pete Carroll a lot, but Pete Carroll's brand is ethereal defense. Pete's always empowered defensive players. He's drafted the defensive side better. Russell Wilson's had to overcome stuff here. He's had a battle-- once they let go of Max Unger, yet they add Sheldon Richardson. They'll add a defensive piece any time they can.

They've shortchanged him a lot on offense. This offensive line is mix and match. I think sometimes we forget that. Dak's got an offensive coach, and Goff does, and Wentz does. Russell's in a defensive-led building with a defensive coach with outspoken defensive players. And when they're all gone, and he's healthy, they beat the Eagles.

I think he's one of the greatest players-- not just quarterbacks-- I've ever seen in this league. I think he's an amazing player I don't know. It's just, I'm never surprised. I love when Philadelphia coaches are throwing their sheet on the ground. You can see they're like, oh, you can't design something to stop him! It's remarkable.

- I think we're now seeing him finally take over this team. For so long, their identity had been their defense the Legion of Boom. When Marshawn Lynch was there, people said that it was a team run through 24, not through him. Now, all those pieces are gone. Now we have an opportunity to see this team built around Russell Wilson. And they get Duane Brown. They have some playmakers, Jimmy Graham or whatever.

But this team is doing it because Russ is making it happen, inside, outside the pocket. Looking at the stats, he accounts for over 82% of their scrimmage yards. That's ridiculous. He's the team's leading rusher. When you talk about most valuable player, he is everything to Seattle right now. I think this validates when so many people were on him saying, he's an elite quarterback. This season is validation for that fact.

- I think he's an elite quarterback. I agree with you. I think he'll probably get another Super Bowl. He's maybe on his way to the Hall of Fame. But as far as MVP of the league right now, I think he's up there. He's certainly in the conversation. But I'm still going to go with Tom Brady.

And the reason why is because all the injuries that have happened over there, it's not like his offensive line has been that great. I know it's the boring pick, and it's not the sexy pick, because he's such a great, phenomenal football player. But he played outstanding last night, make no mistake about it. But--

- Let me tell you what--

- The Golden Boy gets my vote.

- Let me tell you what the scale in Russell's favor. One guy plays in the NFC, and the other guy plays in the AFC.

- NFC is way better.

- Yeah. The NFC is just so loaded. And again, this was the hottest team in football, and he put a clown suit on them. Their defense was pretty effective last night. And again, he made things happen.

- Let's [INAUDIBLE] this, though. To Tony's point, has Brady become a victim of himself? I mean, hit even Joe Montana. I said two weeks ago. When is the last time you turn a New England game on the first quarter-- let's say you missed the first eight, 10 minutes-- and you were surprised? It never happens. They lead everybody 14-0. I mean, it's ridiculous.

- Put Russell Wilson in New England and Tom Brady in Seattle. What happens?

- Well, you have a different roster.

- The same thing! I think Tom Brady--

- Tom Brady?

- --without Bill Belichick, and dealing with Richard Sherman in that culture in Seattle.

- Don't act like Pete Carroll is not the second-best coach in the NFL, too. I mean, that guy-- and he knows what he's doing. I love Pete Carroll. I think he's one of the greatest coaches of all time.

- Look. I'm not trying to knock Brady. But again, if Brady was under that kind of duress--

- Well, yes.

- He was!

- Was he?

- Well, not that-- I mean, I guess your point is-- but it should be noted that Pete Carroll would see Brady as a more prolific pocket passer, so they would build it differently. My problem is--

- [INAUDIBLE] is not an unlimited resources, Colin. He got them defensive players, got the money tied up here.

- I brought it up here before. He's Duke basketball.

- Who?

- I think Tom Brady is. A lot of people don't like Duke basketball. You go to the barbershop. You don't like Duke. You know why you don't like Duke? Because they win. They graduate 100% or 98% of their players. They're always going to be good. Nobody cares about them, because they do well all the time. They want to go for the Michigan. They want to go for [INAUDIBLE]. They want to go for North Caro--

- I don't like Duke, and I love Tom Brady. I really do love Tom Brady.

- How could you not like Duke? Why would you not like Duke basketball? Why would you not like Tom Brady?

- Hey, make that a segment in tomorrow's show.

- I saw--

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