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On March 21 2014 09:54 Naniwa wrote:

everything that happened was extremly silly, to be honest i told my team atleast 5 times that i didnt want to go and that they should make iem get a replacement for me. but my team didnt agree with this and also IEM said that they would highly recommend me to go or there would be consequenses ( this is what my team told me )



i would ofcourse not want to go to waste my time playing a tournament in a game i dont even practice anymore as it was a huge waste of time but as i said i was forced to because of SPONSOR Things, and ironically enough i got kicked out of the team for going there and doing what i did when i didnt even wanna go or play sc2 in the first place funnily enough. but whatever im not sad and i dont really care anymore about that, im sure that if i practice 2 weeks in the future i can make the comeback as the best foreign player at any time if i feel like it.



its a bit funny tho that ppl think other people deserve the spot ( Yes i wanted to give it away cuz i didnt wanna play the tour ) but i won it fair and square by going top2 at newyork, if other people wouldve "deserved it" then they could learn to qualify to tournaments by their own skill everything that happened was extremly silly, to be honest i told my team atleast 5 times that i didnt want to go and that they should make iem get a replacement for me. but my team didnt agree with this and also IEM said that they would highly recommend me to go or there would be consequenses ( this is what my team told me )i would ofcourse not want to go to waste my time playing a tournament in a game i dont even practice anymore as it was a huge waste of time but as i said i was forced to because of SPONSOR Things, and ironically enoughwhen i didnt even wanna go or play sc2 in the first place funnily enough.but whatever im not sad and i dont really care anymore about that, im sure that if i practice 2 weeks in the future i can make the comeback as the best foreign player at any time if i feel like it.its a bit funny tho that ppl think other people deserve the spot ( Yes i wanted to give it away cuz i didnt wanna play the tour ) but i won it fair and square by going top2 at newyork, if other people wouldve "deserved it" then they could learn to qualify to tournaments by their own skill

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21034800 Post from NaNiwa in his fanclub:Source:

-HuShang- Profile Joined December 2012 Canada 371 Posts #2 Maybe, maybe not, but it sure is a convenient excuse to kick him off if he isn't playing starcraft 2 anymore. Food for thought ;D Professional Starcraft 2 Coach & Caster | Message me for more info or business proposals

DarKFoRcE Profile Blog Joined April 2010 Germany 1172 Posts #3 If he isnt playing anymore there wouldnt be much of a point for him to stay in a team anyway, no?

Seems reasonable to me. Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/PinDarKFoRcE

DaftFunk Profile Joined June 2013 194 Posts #4 okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue

cookiz Profile Joined March 2013 Burma 181 Posts #5 sad... IM_MVP | DRG (<ゝω·)☆

Shinobi1982 Profile Joined January 2011 1557 Posts #6 He sure as hell deserves it. I was always a fan of Naniwa but he is just too "uninformed" (to put it lightly) to see why he needs to be at that tournament. Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.

jSwany Profile Joined March 2014 United States 4 Posts #7 He sure does deserve to be kicked. Saying you don't want to go to your job + *I didn't practice for something I qualified for* is the biggest piss poor excuse ever.

Wormi Profile Joined December 2011 Germany 180 Posts #8 On March 21 2014 16:13 DaftFunk wrote:

okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue



but those guys are either smart, sexy or likeable in general. put a monster drink in their hand and people will be like, damn, i wanna drink it, too.

naniwa is just a good starcraft player, as long as he practices.

but those guys are either smart, sexy or likeable in general. put a monster drink in their hand and people will be like, damn, i wanna drink it, too.naniwa is just a good starcraft player, as long as he practices. I´m a real person. Beep beep.

Cheren Profile Blog Joined September 2013 United States 2834 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-21 07:29:56 #9



Smart idea getting kicked off, this way he doesn't have post-retirement streaming hours to make up. On March 21 2014 16:13 DaftFunk wrote:

okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue



Machine is no longer on EG, he was a house manager and then quit to go back to school.



iNcontroL is on EG the way Rotterdam is on ROOT.



Thorzain is actually likable and will one day be the first EG-sponsored doctor.



Stephano is caught in some sort of endless feedback loop of constantly needing more streaming hours, fortunately he has found a way to fill those hours with the fewest amount of games possible. Machine is no longer on EG, he was a house manager and then quit to go back to school.iNcontroL is on EG the way Rotterdam is on ROOT.Thorzain is actually likable and will one day be the first EG-sponsored doctor.Stephano is caught in some sort of endless feedback loop of constantly needing more streaming hours, fortunately he has found a way to fill those hours with the fewest amount of games possible.

iNcontroL Profile Blog Joined July 2004 USA 29048 Posts #10 nope.. actually Rotterdam and I are very different!

Cheren Profile Blog Joined September 2013 United States 2834 Posts #11 On March 21 2014 16:31 iNcontroL wrote:

nope.. actually Rotterdam and I are very different!



Oh sweet I didn't know you could be summoned TB-style! Oh sweet I didn't know you could be summoned TB-style!

Topdoller Profile Joined March 2011 United Kingdom 3860 Posts #12 Hes under contract and hes representing the company. What he done was embarrassing to the event holders and the sponsors. He could have at least went out in a professional manner and not looking like a child, its time he grew up.



I dont feel sorry for this guy one bit, nor should anyone else tbh and with luck hes career in SC2 and E-Sports is finished,, then he can get a real job, perhaps serving burgers at MacDonalds as i don't think going what of i have seen of him that he has ether the temperament or intelligence to work with other people reliably. Saying that his customer facing skills are appalling so he probably couldnt even do that.



Dont feel sorry for him one bit, good riddance !!!

Micro_Jackson Profile Joined August 2011 Germany 1963 Posts #13 As much as i liked Naniwa as a player, this is just not professional at all.

Orcasgt24 Profile Joined August 2011 Canada 3203 Posts #14 For a dude who apparently left the game and scene he sure is lingering around a long time... In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work

Amui Profile Blog Joined August 2010 Canada 6032 Posts #15 On March 21 2014 16:13 DaftFunk wrote:

okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue

Incontrol has value to EG that's worth far more than just his skill as a player. Others as well.



Players(employees) are ultimately accountable to the company. If they provide ROI, then they're kept. If they're negative, but could provide future value, then they could still be kept. If they're actively lowering the value of the company(naniwa's actions), then the asset needs to be cut loose.



Naniwa could've tried hard, dropped out without winning a map and it would've have been that big of a deal. Putting in zero effort and then his actions afterwards doesn't just hurt his value as a player, it hurts the team he's on and the sponsors. Incontrol has value to EG that's worth far more than just his skill as a player. Others as well.Players(employees) are ultimately accountable to the company. If they provide ROI, then they're kept. If they're negative, but could provide future value, then they could still be kept. If they're actively lowering the value of the company(naniwa's actions), then the asset needs to be cut loose.Naniwa could've tried hard, dropped out without winning a map and it would've have been that big of a deal. Putting in zero effort and then his actions afterwards doesn't just hurt his value as a player, it hurts the team he's on and the sponsors. Porouscloud - NA LoL

Cheren Profile Blog Joined September 2013 United States 2834 Posts #16 On March 21 2014 16:39 Amui wrote:

Incontrol has value to EG that's worth far more than just his skill as a player. Others as well.



I tried to say this but he seemed offended. :< I tried to say this but he seemed offended. :

cywinr Profile Joined February 2011 Canada 172 Posts #17 You get sponsored to play a game. You stop playing it. You stop getting sponsored. Makes sense to me. What's wrong Naniwa?

Sub40APM Profile Joined August 2010 6335 Posts #18 On March 21 2014 16:40 Cheren wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 21 2014 16:39 Amui wrote:

Incontrol has value to EG that's worth far more than just his skill as a player. Others as well.



I tried to say this but he seemed offended. :< I tried to say this but he seemed offended. :

I think what he meant was that while he does a lot of stuff for EG in terms of his marketing power, Rotti is part of Root as just as a friend thing and that Rotti's branding is reserved solely for Rotti (ie, when he gets jobs he gets them as Kevin, not as an employee of ROOT) so you dont see him pushing Root sponsor stuff. I think what he meant was that while he does a lot of stuff for EG in terms of his marketing power, Rotti is part of Root as just as a friend thing and that Rotti's branding is reserved solely for Rotti (ie, when he gets jobs he gets them as Kevin, not as an employee of ROOT) so you dont see him pushing Root sponsor stuff.

Daswollvieh Profile Blog Joined October 2009 5551 Posts #19 Responsibility: a useful skill toi have.

calh Profile Joined March 2013 381 Posts #20 It's understandable if he didn't want to go. But if he really didn't care, why make those excuses when his proxy was found? Losing would have suit him just fine, since he would just get to be out early. There was no reason to create drama and cause a delay to the tournament if he didn't even want to be there in the first place.

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