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That odd sub-species of human that still opts to use flip phones over smart phones simply because they don’t “get” technology is a lot like those who prefer Internet Explorer or, god forbid, Mozilla, over Chrome or Safari. Let’s label them quaintly out of touch.

The newest person to add to that list? Chris Pine.

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On Good Morning America on Tuesday, the 36-year-old actor revealed that he still uses a flip phone (and, probably, Internet Explorer).

“I have a flip phone,” he said. “The flip world is a whole world you gotta get into.” Except that we all got out of it years ago, but let’s hear him out.

“I’ll tell you what, here we go,” he continued. “I recently got a record player and a flip phone. I kind of like the simplifying down. I just like the simple, I just like the non-complicated. I don’t want to be connected so much.”

His Wonder Woman co-star Gal Gadot then joked, “I was literally asking him a few days ago, ‘What is this?’”

Pine added that because it’s hard for him to text on the smaller keyboard, it pushes him to make calls instead: “I don’t know if you remember like T9? Like, you remember when you had to do that T9 thing, wow!”

To each his own.