Addendum 1: Interview SCP-3000-EX-A

Interviewed: PoI-3000-1

Interviewer: Agent Curtis

Date: 5 April 1987

Foreword: Relevant extracts of this interview are set out below. The full interview logs (275 minutes) are available at Document 3000-EX/084. PoI-3000-1 was fitted with a polygraph for the final portion of the interview.

Agent Curtis: Please confirm your name and address? PoI-3000-1: Carl William Fraser, 17 Old Grove Drive, Arlington, Texas, United States of America. It was my grandma's house. Agent Curtis: Do you know why you're here, Carl? PoI-3000-1: Yes, I am here because the policeman came to my house and he went down into my basement and he found those boys laying there dead. Agent Curtis: Did you kill those boys, Carl? PoI-3000-1: Yes I did, I killed them or at least I had to help kill them. Agent Curtis: Who helped you kill them, Carl? PoI-3000-1: They did. Those boys themselves did. I had to help. Agent Curtis: Tell me how you met those boys. PoI-3000-1: Most of them were at the bus station in Fort Worth, and …

Agent Curtis: Where did you get the hospital beds? PoI-3000-1: I bought them. My grandma had one and she died but I liked how the mattress felt when I lay down on it, so I bought some more and they were the same type but they didn't feel the same. Agent Curtis: Where did you buy them from? PoI-3000-1: From a store in Fort Worth, Jackson's Bric-a-brac. They have old things there. Agent Curtis: Did you change the beds after you bought them? PoI-3000-1: I put the metal on them so their arms could reach. I tried it without but it didn't work, the handcuffs were too short. And I jammed the backs so they were sitting up a little bit. So they could lean forward. Agent Curtis: Did you do anything else to the beds, Carl? PoI-3000-1: No. Agent Curtis: Do you know what magic is? PoI-3000-1: Yes, like Siegfried and Roy. Agent Curtis: What about real magic, Carl? PoI-3000-1: There's no such thing as real magic, just stories and illusions, it's not real. Agent Curtis: Can you do illusions, Carl? PoI-3000-1: No. Agent Curtis: Did you do an illusion with the beds? PoI-3000-1: No. What do you mean? Agent Curtis: Did the beds make those boys hurt themselves? Did the beds speak to the boys in their minds? PoI-3000-1: I don't understand what you mean, I think you're trying to trick me and I don't like it when people trick me. Agent Curtis: Okay, Carl, I'm not trying to trick you. I just want to ask questions. Would you like some more water? PoI-3000-1: I don't like it when people trick me.

Agent Curtis: Did you put the animal blood on those boys, Carl? PoI-3000-1: It came from the meat. From the freezer. Agent Curtis: Did you spread the blood in a pattern? PoI-3000-1: No, it was them and it was just messy, not a pattern. Agent Curtis: Are you saying the animal blood was an accident? PoI-3000-1: Yes, it was an accident, why are you asking me - Agent Curtis: But killing the boys wasn't an accident, was it Carl? PoI-3000-1: No, no it wasn't an accident, but - Agent Curtis: Why did you kill them, Carl? PoI-3000-1: I didn't kill them! I told you, I didn't kill them, I just helped. Agent Curtis: Okay, then - PoI-3000-1: I killed the other ones, the first ones, but I didn't know any better and I was funny from the beer and I just grabbed his neck to stop him leaving and then when I woke up he was dead. I didn't mean to but he was so pretty and I didn't want him to leave and I tried to keep him but after he was dead he began to rot and I had to get rid of him so I - Agent Curtis: What about later on, Carl? What about Gavin Staub? PoI-3000-1: Gavin, Gavin, yes I remember he had a strong face and bright eyes but he got too weak. Agent Curtis: What do you mean by weak? PoI-3000-1: I tried feeding them, after the first ones, once I got the handcuffs and the basement arranged, but they didn't want to eat, they were beautiful but the food was making them less beautiful and then they died so I realised that there was another way, that the only way they could stay beautiful was if they ate themselves. Agent Curtis: If they ate themselves? PoI-3000-1: Yes, you see it's like a beautiful loop and the beauty goes around and around and never wears off and they would be able to stay, but I couldn't make them understand even though I gave them the knives and told them but they wouldn't do it, so for Gavin I had an idea. Agent Curtis: What was your idea, Carl? PoI-3000-1: After he woke up and he was on the bed and he was yelling, I told him that he had to eat himself, and he said no, so I said he couldn't have any food, and every day I told him and I could see he was hungry but he still said no so I waited and waited and then I gave him the steak. Agent Curtis: This is one of the steaks you were keeping in the freezer? PoI-3000-1: Yes, I put it on his belly and told him he could eat it and the freezer is good because the cold numbs the belly and it makes the meat harder and slippery for the knife and I knew how sharp the knife was, it was like a trick but it wasn't a mean trick and if he could only start cutting he would smell his body and he would be so hungry and the beauty would go on and on forever. But he was too weak, he couldn't hold the knife steady enough, so I had to help him.



Agent Curtis: <silence, 5 seconds> So what happened - PoI-3000-1: I always had to help them, it never worked! I didn't want to but I had to, there was no other way. And the beauty always went out of them, afterwards.

Agent Curtis: I'm going to tell you some names now, Carl, and you tell me if you have heard of them, okay? PoI-3000-1: Okay. Agent Curtis: Adytum's Wake. PoI-3000-1: No. Agent Curtis: Ion. PoI-3000-1: Like in chemistry? Agent Curtis: No, it's a name. Do you know Ion? PoI-3000-1: No. That's a strange name. Agent Curtis: The Order of the White Worm. PoI-3000-1: No. Agent Curtis: The Fifth Church. PoI-3000-1: No. There is a Catholic church off Debbie Lane, I think. Agent Curtis: Tlaol. PoI-3000-1: No. That's not a word. Are you trying to trick me again? Agent Curtis: No, Carl, I'm not. I'm just asking whether you know it. PoI-3000-1: That's not a real word. Agent Curtis: Okay. The Veldt…

Afterword: Polygraph results were negative for all anomalous connections and groups of interest.

Further testing confirmed that neither PoI-3000-1 nor any of the SCP-3000-EX items had any anomalous properties. PoI-3000-1 was amnesticised and returned to Tarrant County Jail.