Concerning trance and a logn rest.does Trance allow elves to get the benefit of long rest in 4 hours instead of 8? nope, they still need 8 hours of rest, but spend only 4 of it zonked out. -MRead more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/conten...rs-Mearls-Crawford#.VVefsEa0fkw#ixzz3aKisQnuJ However, the rules concerning Trance specifically state: " After resting in this way, you gain the same benefit that a human does from 8 hours o f sleep."Trance. Elves don’t need to sleep. Instead, theymeditate deeply, remaining semiconscious, for 4hours a day. (The Common word for such meditationis “trance.”) While meditating, you can dream after afashion; such dreams are actually mental exercises thathave become reflexive through years of practice. Afterresting in this way, you gain the same benefit that ahuman does from 8 hours o f sleep.So if a 4 hour elven trance won't give the equivalent of a Long Rest, then human don't get a Long Rest after after 8 hours sleep either.