On Fox News Sunday's weekly political panel, CEO of Heritage Action For America, says that Donald Trump, "at his best, talks about both the economic and the social disconnectedness of the working class."



"Trump, at his best, talks about real issues of national identity and where are we going as a country that I think don't only apply to America, but you saw with Brexit. Trump, at his best, talks about the kind of corruptness of Washington, D.C., which I think Hillary is the poster child of," he explained.



AP reporter Julie Pace makes this counterpoint: "If you look at his history, for decades in the public eye, he is a man who will chase the shiny object. And the Clinton campaign has learned that very well."





MICHAEL NEEDHAM, HERITAGE ACTION: So I'm sure there's an element of isolation with Trump. There is with anybody. But Trump, I think also, when he's at his best, has been one of the first Republican candidates to break out of the bubble of kind of the -- the focus on the past and the problems of the 1980s that plagues the Republican Party. Trump, at his best, talks about both the economic and the social disconnectedness of the working class. That's an important issue to talk about. Trump, at his best, talks about real issues of national identity and where are we going as a country that I think don't only apply to America, but you saw with Brexit. Trump, at his best, talks about the kind of corruptness of Washington, D.C., which I think Hillary is the poster child of.



BOB WOODWARD: But -- but what -- you say Trump it is --



NEEDHAM: And so -- so there's kind of bubble in politics that Trump has also pierced when he's at his best, and that’s why getting into the mud on this other stuff is problematic.



JULIE PACE: The problem -- the problem for Trump --



WOODWARD: We see him at his worst also.



PACE: Right. No, but the problem for Trump is that I think now he actually does have a team around him that is pushing him to those messages. It's written into his stump speeches now. When he sticks to the teleprompter, he’s -- he’s delivering that effectively. He did that in the first debate.



But the reality is, Donald Trump is who he is.



NEEDHAM: Right.



PACE: Whether he is in a small isolated group of advisers, or a larger group of advisers. If you look at his history, for decades in the public eye, he is a man who will chase the shiny object. And the Clinton campaign has learned that very well.