Guardian columnist Jessica Valenti speaks with writer Rebecca Traister about the sexism that powerful female leaders face on a daily basis

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Jessica Valenti talks with Rebecca Traister about how gendered expectations of leadership play into the primary contest between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Traister explains how Clinton has changed as a candidate since her 2008 run and how she deals with the challenges that all powerful female leaders face.

“You have to clear a lot of bars to convince people that you are plausible, that you have authority,” Traister says. “And you’re limited: you can’t shake fingers at people, you can’t be too angry, you can’t be too soft. You have to be professional, but not cold; you have to be warm, but not effusive.”

Valenti and Traister also examine the generational divide within the feminist movement and offer advice on how to raise a feminist child.

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