An Islamic Hell Grows in Brooklyn

Siraj Wahhaj It would seem so, but that is exactly what happened to Bos Smith, a Wall Street investment banker, and his companions when they were dragged off a public thoroughfare by a group of angry Muslims and into the Masjid At-Taqwa Mosque in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn for ostensibly taking photographs of said mosque. They had not secured permission. Permission for what…to take pictures…to breathe the air? Was it a photograph-free zone? Is there some sort of double standard in play in Bedford-Stuyvesant? Could be. Militant Islam is not at all shy about taking photographs of anything that catches its fancy and the target doesn’t have to be on a public thoroughfare—bridges, nuclear power plants, military installations even George W. Bush hasn’t heard of, CIA headquarters, anything. Perhaps the Prophet PBUH has extended privileges to Muslims he has denied dhimmis and kafirs Isn’t a public thoroughfare a stated place of safety upon which a private citizen can expect to move from one destination to another without molestation? Isn’t it against the law for a private citizen or a group of private citizens to dragoon other private citizens off a stated public thoroughfare, to drag them into a building, say into a mosque, to interrogate them about their reasons for being on said public thoroughfare? Smith and his two companions were taken to a basement beneath the mosque where they were grilled by a character named Ali Kareem. There was no sense in making a run for it. Security was tight. About 20 Muslims dressed in Karate suits had gathered around them. Maybe it was Tae Kwan Do Day at the mosque. They were asked what they had been doing in the street in front of the mosque—a public thoroughfare where a private citizen can expect to be safe from molestation from other private citizens…one would think. They said they were sightseeing. That did not work. It was only when they said they were admirers of Islam and wanted to learn about the religion of peace and tolerance, and begin sprinkling their words with Allahu akbars that the frowns and scowls on the faces of their captors turned to smiles. By then Bos and his pals must have learned everything about paranoia, xenophobia, intolerance and Islam they would ever want to know. They said their intent had been to obtain information about conversion. Sure. After a few more Allahu akbars and a couple of Shaloms they were allowed to go. It had been a close call. Thank God for the Allahu akbars! (Many a quick-thinking Jew caught in similar situations in Nazi Germany survived by shouting Heil Hitler) It is amazing how the instinct for survival can come to the fore in a tight spot. Bosand his friends were lucky. And where did this incident take place? In Brooklyn…are you sure? It couldn’t have! Not in the Brooklyn where Peewee Reese played shortstop and Jackie Robinson broke the color line. Not in the Brooklyn of Woody Allen and George Gershwin. Not in the Brooklyn of The Three Stooges and Vince Lombardi. Not in the Brooklyn of Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Mickey Spillane. There must be some mistake! Were that there was. It took place in that Brooklyn…in Bed-Sty. Alas! Alas! Say it ain’t so, Joe! What kind of Hell has descended on Bed-Sty…on Brownsville…on Bensonhurst…on East Flatbush? Not Hell, dear dhimmi, something worse than Hell—Islam! The Masjid At-Taqwa Mosque is the haunt of Imam Siraj Wahhaj. Wahhaj was one of the six imams hustled off a plane at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport back in November of 2006 for harassing passengers. The imams insisted they had behaved normally— as if spouting anti-American slogans, praying ostentatiously, jumping up and down, switching seats, talking loudly and asking for belt extenders was normal behavior. They acted more like The Three Stooges than purveyors of peace and tolerance. They made more noise than the entire Mormon Tabernacle Choir embarking on the Love Boat. The Bowery Boys could have commandeered a bus with more savoir-faire and less disruption to the passengers. Of course, the imams took great umbrage when the gendarmes arrived to escort them from the plane. The religion of peace and tolerance would see them in court! Yes, in court, sir! But in the life of Siraj Wahhaj this was only a minor episode. Guest speakers at the mosque have included blind Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman who is currently whiling away the last days of his life in a Missouri Federal Penitentiary for his part in the first World Trade Center bombing and Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani founder of the American branch of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, an organization suspected in 35 acts of terrorism in the United States. (Jamaat ul-Fuqra means Community of the Impoverished. Whether the impoverishment is economic, spiritual or mental or all three is yet to be determined) Add Clement Rodney Hampton-El known as Dr. Rashid, also in jail for participating in the first WTC bombing, and the usual hangers on at the mosque and one has a cast of characters that would have kept Shane out of Grafton’s Saloon and Eliot Ness out of Greasy Thumb Guzik's favorite speakeasy. Wahhaj was listed as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, but that did not keep him from appearing at the trial as a character witness for Sheikh Rahman. He has served on the advisory board for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and was the first imam to deliver a Muslim prayer before the US House of Representatives. He gets around. In 1999, he was the guest of Madeleine Albright at a State Department dinner. Wahhaj has told his followers that a society governed by strict Islamic law, in which adulterers would be stoned to death and thieves have their hands cut off, would be superior to American democracy. How far have the limits of Hell been extended since the first World Trade Center bombing? Less than four years ago, Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz proclaimed August 15, 2004, “Siraj Wahhaj Day” in honor of the imam’s “lifetime of outstanding and meaningful achievement.” From the Burgerbrau Keller to the Beer Hall Putsch…from the first World Trade Center bombing to 9/11…from Brownshirts to Karate suits… “In time this so-called democracy will crumble and there will be nothing. And the only thing that will remain will be Islam.”—Siraj Wahhaj, guest speaker at the Universal Heritage Foundation meeting at Kissimmee, Florida, December 2003. Who will tell the people?

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Denis Schulz was prospective convert to Islam (read his testimony: How I Almost Became a Muslim?) before changing his mind after the 9/11. He actively writes on the threats of Islam and terrorism.

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Name: MA Khan

Date: Saturday May 24, 2008

Time: 21:31:02 -0700

The Original article by Bos Smith

Nabbed and held captive by Brooklyn Jihadis!

A tree grew in Brooklyn.

No longer.

It has been uprooted by the Masjid At-Taqwa and other radical mosques that have sprouted up like huge mechanical mushrooms throughout the borough.

If you tarry in front of the Masjid At-Taqwa in the Bedford-Stuyvesant district and dare to take a photo, you might get hauled away by a group of angry Muslims in Islamic attire to the basement of the facility where a group of twenty “security guards” in karate suits will interrogate you.

This sounds preposterous.

But it happened on a weekend in late April at 3:00 in the afternoon.

Ali Kareem, the head of security for Siraj Wahaj’s mosque, conducted the grilling. A small, muscular man with a wispy black beard that has been dyed red with henna, Kareem demanded to know the reason why a trio of kafirs had dared to photograph the building on a public street without securing his permission.

He further insisted on securing our identities and obtaining our motives for such a violation of Islamic space.

Being surrounded by a group of militant guards in a mosque basement from which there is no means of escape is not a comforting place to be for a Wall Street financier.

We tried to explain that we found the neighborhood with its halal meat vendors and food stores; Islamic dress shops, featuring the latest styles in burqas and hijabs; Muslim souvenir outlets, replete with bumper stickers stating “Don’t Be Caught Dead Without Islam”; and Middle Eastern restaurants offering a variety of goat dishes to be rather quaint and interesting.

This explanation was not sufficient.

Kareem was impatient and did not want a detailed explanation of the reason for our excursion (simple sight-seeing) or a graphic account of the sights we had seen and photographed.

“I ask the questions here,” he said, “and you provide the answers.”

Realizing that we were in a bit of a pickle, my companion explained that we were interested in various religions and knew Siraj Wahaj, the imam of the mosque, was a prominent Muslim figure whom we would like to interview for a news outlet.

This didn’t work too well since we could not produce a business card from a wacko blog, let alone credentials from a national publication.

At last, we blurted out that we were admirers of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings Be Upon Him) and wanted to obtain information about conversion. We were even knowledgeable enough to blurt out “Salaam” and “Allahu akbar.”

The last utterance seemed to be the “Open Sesame” that got us out of the basement and back to Bedford Street, where we managed to take a picture of the mosque before hailing a cab and making a getaway.

The experience was disconcerting. Surely, anyone who takes a picture of St. Patrick’s Cathedral or the Riverside Church is not hauled off to a basement for questioning by a threatening figure in a karate uniform and a band of Ninjas.

What is taking place within Masjid At-Taqwa?

And what about Siraj Wahaj, the celebrated imam of this mosque who claims to be a moderate?

Masjid At-Taqwa at 1226 Bedford Street was an abandoned clothing store, which Wahaj purchased at an auction in 1979 for $30,000 with cash from oil-rich Saudis. The interior is divided into spacious, windowless rooms that have been painted green and beige.

At Friday afternoon prayers the meeting room is crammed with hundreds of congregants. Some show up in do-rag stocking caps and Sean John sweatshirts; others wear finely embroidered, authentic-looking Muslim caps and flowing robes of crimson and gold. About half of the attendees are African-Americans. The others are immigrants from the Middle East, South Asia and Africa. Worshipers range from Brooklyn street bums to the local celebrities, such as former heavy-weight champion Mike Tyson.

The place has played host to a number of notorious exponents of radical Islam, including Clement Rodney Hampton-El (Dr. Rashid), a key player in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. Mr. Hampton-El is presently cooling his heels in a federal slammer since he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy. Mr. Hampton-El, who was born and raised in Brooklyn, fought as a mujahadeen under Gulbuddin Hekmatyar in the holy war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

Upon his return, Hampton-El was hailed as a hero by members of the mosque. Imam Wahaj has said that he was sought out by young and old alike for spiritual advice as an “elder” in the community. Wahaj, in fact, appeared as a character witness for Hampton El when the former mujahadeen stood trial before Judge Michael Mukasey in New York’s Federal District Court on charges of seditious conspiracy and attempted bombing.

Hampton-El is currently serving thirty-five years in a supermax prison for America’s most dangerous inmates.

Blind Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman visited Masjid At-Taqwa on many occasions while serving as the imam of the nearby Masjid al-Fooqra at 554 Atlantic Avenue, several blocks from Masjid At-Taqwi. On the second floor of Rahman’s mosque, al Qaeda had opened an office under the name of the al-Kifah Refugee Center. It became a favorite haunt for members of Wahaj’s congregation.

Rahman also spoke on occasion at Masjid At-Taqwa. In one speech, the fiery sheikh suggested that Muslims should rob banks to benefit Islam.

In 1995, Sheikh Rahman was hauled into court as the alleged architect of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and for planning to blow up the United Nations, the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, the George Washington Bridge, and buildings throughout Manhattan. At his side was his good friend Siraj Wahaj who provided testimony of the sheik’s sterling character.

In a Feb. 2, 1995, letter to defense lawyers in the landmarks-bombing case, then-U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White named about 170 people as “un-indicted persons who may be alleged as co-conspirators.” Imam Wahaj was on the list.

Other infamous characters reportedly have made their way to the Bedford Street mosque, including Imam Gulshair el-Shukrijumah, whose son Adnan has been singled out by the Justice Department as “the next Muhammad Atta.” Gulshair, it turns out, served a stint as imam at another radical Brooklyn mosque - - the now defunct Masjid Nur a-Islam, at 21 Church Street.

Another visitor, according to informed sources, was Sheikh Gilani, the founder of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, who served as the imam of yet another Brooklyn mosque - - the Yasin Masjid at 777 Saratoga Avenue. This infamous mosque is now a beauty salon. From 1980 to 1995, it served as a recruiting center for the jihad and for paramilitary Islamic compounds that remain in existence throughout the country.

Since the time of its inception, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has been responsible for more terror attacks on American soil (30 and counting) than all other terrorist groups combined. Members of ul-Fuqra, which maintains headquarters in Pakistan, have been convicted in US courts of such crimes as homicide, conspiracy to commit murder, firebombing, gun smuggling, grand theft, counterfeiting, and workers’ compensation fraud. Others remain leading suspects in criminal cases throughout the country, including ten unsolved assassinations and seventeen fire-bombings. Some of the better-known adherents of ul-Fuqra are Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, and John Allen Muhammad, the Beltway sniper.

But what of Wahaj? Is he an exponent of radical Islam - - a man who poses a threat to millions of Americans?

He is a well-known and welcome figure in Washington, DC. He was the first Muslim cleric to offer the invocation at the opening session of Congress. He has dined with former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and serves on the boards of no less than five major Muslim organizations. He has received commendations from the Brooklyn police for eradicating crime from the Bedford-Stuyvesant area. In 2003, Siraj Wahaj Day was celebrated in Brooklyn in recognition of what one borough official called a “lifetime of outstanding and meaningful achievement.”

But the proof of the real Wahaj is in the proverbial pudding.

In one of his sermons, Wahaj announced that the “real terrorists” are the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency. In another, he said, “In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing. And the only thing that will remain will be Islam.” He proclaimed that a society governed by strict Islamic law, in which adulterers are stoned to death and apostates beheaded, would be vastly superior to American democracy.

To a Muslim audience in New Jersey, Wahaj advocated the idea of Muslims forming a coup to take control of the federal government. “If we are united and strong,” he said, “we’d elect our own emir [leader] and give allegiance to him. Take my word for it, if six to eight million Muslims are united in America, the country will come to us.”

His so-called “moderate” interpretation of the Qu’ran became clear by this remark: “If Allah says 100 strikes, 100 strikes it is. If Allah says cut off their hand, you cut off their hand. If Allah says stone them to death, through the Prophet Muhammad, then you stone them to death, because it’s the obedience of Allah and his messenger—nothing personal.”

Wahaj informed an audience of black women wearing Muslim head coverings in Orlando, Fla., that Islam condones a man’s marrying up to four wives, and that this rule, when introduced in the seventh century, served as a restriction on arrangements involving even more wives per husband.

And there are the national organizations to which Wahaj remains affiliated. He served as emir (president) of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), which has been charged with funneling millions to terror groups, and as an advisory board member of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which has been labeled by author and counter-terrorism expert Steven Emerson as a “radical fundamentalist front group for Hamas.”

All this may be well and good, save for the fact that Wahaj and his mosque retains a small army not of brown-shirts but black-belts who now claim the right to collar ordinary citizens on the sidewalk and to haul them off for interrogation.

You’re only safe in Brooklyn at this writing if you say your prayers - - meaning, of course, the Basmalah.



(Bos Smith holds a law degree from Wake Forest University. He serves in the securities division of a major Wall Street investment bank. The research for this article was conducted in preparation of Within the Belly of the Beast: Jihad in America. Questions and comments may be directed to mail@bossmith.org)

Name:

Date: Sunday May 04, 2008

Time: 21:31:02 -0700



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Muslims never contribute anything positive wherever they go. Wherever islam goes, nothing but evil and misery and hatred and death follow.

Name: id

Date: Sunday May 04, 2008

Time: 22:10:10 -0700



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How any self respecting black can have anything to do with the religion that has been front and center in the slave trade is beyond me. Mohammad was a slaver and all his followers are slavers. More proof that islam is a false religion.

Name: Mohammad

Date: Sunday May 04, 2008

Time: 22:42:41 -0700



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Were you an eyewitness to the events Denis? If not, what source are you citing? This country has laws and if you have evidence proving such a thing took place, you should present it to the authorities. Siraj Wahhaj is not an extremist and there is no evidence against him. According to the law, a person is innocent until proven guilty. Until then, you are simply accusing people of wrongdoing which is not nice.

Name: to: challenge to all infidels from akhter

Date: Monday May 05, 2008

Time: 00:41:16 -0700



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I am an infidel. To make a verse like that, just watch an xxx movie. Many sentences can be made in such a movie. I can think of one sentence: "Akhter, you can f*ck your mother, your sister, your daughter in law, a nine year old girl who is still playing with her dolls, and with any women who offer herself to you. You can have it a twosome way, threesome way, and foursome way, anytime that suits best to you. You can also play with them missionary style, doggy style, or any style that comes to your mind." I think the sentence is far more better than your verse.

Name: ha ha ha ....

Date: Monday May 05, 2008

Time: 03:37:00 -0700



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All about Islam is begun with false prophet, false revelation named Quran. How can such false things became good for people? Mo was a sex starved warlord with a book compilated by him and told other people it was a revelation from God. Strange enough that nobody ever saw this Jibreel that he always said about. Hallucinating? Most probably. As akhter's challenge, the verse is about Mo can have sex with any woman. So Islam is a religion for sex starved people like Mo. You do the jihad way, then you can have sex in paradise with 72 houris (the ever virgin girl, no matter how much you have sex with them) and 28 boys to have anal intercourse with. Then Islam = sex and sex and sex, any which way you can.

Name:

Date: Monday May 05, 2008

Time: 05:32:43 -0700



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INFADAL WHEN YOU ARE FAITHLESS, AND SO A GODLESS PERSON,THESE SYMPTOMS SHOW UP IN YOUR PERSONALTY, THE CURE IS ONE AND ONLY , WALK TOWARD ALLAH, AND HE WOULD RUN TOWARD YOU!! PEACE BAHI,

Name: popu

Date: Monday May 05, 2008

Time: 08:23:24 -0700



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TO: the one who wrote last.....GO AND HIDE URSELF SOMEWHERE.U AND UNEDUCATED PEOPLE WHO R MUSLIMS U R A SHAME...U R "HARAMI".have shame and hide...u r all fake.ur religion is fake,ur so called prophet is fake,his revelations r fake.LET' S SUM IT UP coz all of u r brainless: u r nothing! and pls....dont think that islam will dominate the world...it will never happen...we wont allow primats like u to rull us.we passed the dark ages and u wont return us there...u can stay there as long as u want or better forever.islam is war,pedophilia,lies,thieves.killings and etc

Name: Andy Stunich

Date: Monday May 05, 2008

Time: 08:57:12 -0700



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Great article - thank you. Sadly, the people have been told, but seem inculcated against any meaningful action that will stop the spread of Islam. What you describe in your article was a serious felony of kidnapping, assault, and perhaps battery. I assume there was some contact while the men were forced into the mosque. Was this crime reported? If so, what was done? These are important questions that must be explored.

Name: Challenge to infidels from Akhter

Date: Monday May 05, 2008

Time: 09:17:57 -0700



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I challenge all infidels to write even half a verse like a quranic verse. Try 9.5 "Slay the infidels wherever you find them"

Name: Amy

Date: Monday May 05, 2008

Time: 22:03:18 -0700



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This incident should have been reported to the police; it is a clear case of false imprisonment, assault and battery.

Name: DH

Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008

Time: 08:24:11 -0700



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Quote: "MILITANT ISLAM is not at all shy about taking photographs of anything that catches its fancy" Is there a Koranically valid "NON-militant" variety?

Name: Yusuf

Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008

Time: 23:13:38 -0700



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"After a few more Allahu akbars and a couple of Shaloms they were allowed to go." LOL! Were these gentlemen attempting to convince the Muslims that they were interested in conversion to Islam or Judism? Shalom is the Hebrew/Jewish, Salaam is the Arabic/Islamic. Good thing the Muslims they were trying to fool didn't seem to know the difference either. :) Salaam, and Shalom Yusuf

Name: M

Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008

Time: 23:16:35 -0700



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How come those people didnt notify the authorities. If they were taken hostage wouldnt it make sense to call the police. This is another made up bullshit story. you guys need to get a life you chicken shit badstards. All you can do is talk shit on the internet and try to deface someones religion. Fuckin bunch of nazi jews.

Name: Objective observer from afar.

Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008

Time: 23:37:15 -0700



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What a load of alarmist rubbish.

Name: johnny muslim

Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008

Time: 23:45:49 -0700



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a 'religion' that takes itself this seriously is a pile of smouldering dung.

Name: John

Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008

Time: 23:51:23 -0700



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That is fucking moronic. I was born in Seoul, South Korea. I am an American citizen. I am a black belt in tae kwon do. West Point military school of the USA teaches Kuk Sool Won because it is good to destroy opponents using rifles fitted with bayonets. South Koreans are basically American patriots of the East Asian nations, and so fuck off by trying to even attempt to associate S.Korea with Islam. You moron, learn your geography. South Koreans, however are compassionate and do give jobs and educations to those from Muslim countries such as Iran. North Korea is just an unfortunate victim of politics and pathological stubbornness. While North Korea's people dig for roots and freeze in the cold, politicians and military reap the rewards of political cruelty. You too are an ignorant idiot, Schulz.

Name:

Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008

Time: 23:52:53 -0700



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"Muslims never contribute anything positive wherever they go. Wherever islam goes, nothing but evil and misery and hatred and death follow." A broad generalisation without any merit. At the time the Mores controlled Spain, Europe was in darkness. The sufi mystics and thier belief in inward illumination sparked the golden age in the Muslim world. Great science and math was discovered. Learning was revered. This changed Spain and ushered in the spanish renaissance or the enlightenment. The renaissance in Europe started in Spain. Knowledege is not held by one group or belief system but by all. Open yours eyes and see the world without bias or hate.

Name: John

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 00:06:06 -0700



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Basically, you don't know what the shit you are talking about. You still think that mujahadeen just kind of happened on its own, not through Brzezinski, the Polish-American Soviet hater who designed Osama bin Laden through the CIA and Pakistani military intelligence, the ISI. You are an idiot, Schulz. President Reagan himself applauded Osama bin Laden and the Mujahadeen as freedom fighters solely because they fought the Soviets in Afghanistan as CIA pawns. You are a fool. America uses Islam to have an enemy in the Middle East, therefore producing an entry point for American colonialism. Pure evil.

Name: dionysius

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 00:27:33 -0700



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I don't care what garbage religion it is , whether it's islam or christianity or what have you. They can stick it you know where.

Name: John

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 00:59:31 -0700



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At least Muslims haven't infiltrated the gov't. And which "friend" of the US has been caught too many times to count spying in American gov't and military facilities?

Name: humanity

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 02:07:35 -0700



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most of the writers here ,freaks, probably mostly kaffir jewish zionists or perverted christians do not even know what they are saying besides blind hatred of what they do not understand. if you perverts believe that islam is a false religion and the prophet , then challenge us to a public debate anywhere in the world. our condition is that it must be covered by all t.v channels,radio, newspapers on a point by point discussion! lastly, there are so many red herrings here i can not answer all of them, but i like you all to ponder over a standing prophecy of the koran which states and i quote: "IT IS ALLAH WHO HAS SENT HIS MESSENGER WITH THE RELIGION OF TRUTH,WHICH WILL SUPERSEDE ALL OTHER RELIGIONS,NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE PAGANS DETEST IT" the jew and christian scholars have stated that within 50 years in 1980, islam will be the no 1 religion of the world. so you dregs and misfits of the human race better try to understand where we a s muslims will be in 100 years,200,300 or 600 years?? that is the time christianity came before us. can you see the obvious? the prophecy from a book you perverts say is not true. 911 was done by the jewish zionists mafia in your country, they know that the christians are so gullible they believe any lie which is told to them so they get away literally with murder. the muslims are not your enemies, if we were there would not be 14 million christians still in middle east after 1400 years plus! we are most civilizing force in the world, you only have to look at your history to prove this point, was it 60 years ago you were stuffing jews into ovens i remember??

Name: David H Mende

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 02:46:47 -0700



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Considering what americans have done to Muslims over the past 20 years, I'm surprised the photogs weren't beaten by Muslim/jewish zealots. This war is festering. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Name: Graeme

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 03:29:13 -0700



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Name me ANY islamic nation, that lives in peace with itself, never mind its neighbours?

Name: humanity

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 04:05:55 -0700



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graeme, your question should be addressed to your ownself, like how many millions of people did we christians and jews kill this year alone? how many countrys did we attack or occupied? pakistan,bangladesh,arabia,iran,lebanon,egypt, morocco, to name a few have never attacked anyone or occupied anyone, unlike you perverts who have descended on iraq and showed the world how to wage war based on lies, then you brutalize the population,raping.killing,sodmizing breaking all international laws and rules, then you want the world to believe that you perverts are the best people in the world? you are living by the sword and someday you will die by it, this is an eternal law of god and we sincerely know that this sword will be muslim landing on your heads due to the crimes you have committed againsy humanity!

Name: red

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 04:46:50 -0700



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christians and catholics were slavers as well. In the book of timothy in the king james bible "slaves" are instructed to obey their masters! Manifest destiny was the driving force in eradicating native americans. The first slave ship was called the Jesus. muslims and christians both have a bloody history of being phsychotic!

Name: Maximillian

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 05:17:29 -0700



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Religion: evil control of the masses, outdated and just plain silly. All the 'gods' are mean, selfish, cruel, to put it mildly and remorseless killers. A 'mafia' gang in the clouds who devide the Earth into regions, 'turf' of control. Is it really 2008? Are people really still so stupid? According to most comments, YES!

Name: hello

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 05:33:36 -0700



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we do have freedom of religion in this country right? And why is the article blaming islam, and solely islam, on this incident when 99% of islam are decent folk. They are concentrating on a few crazy people within the religion and then making the false and incorrect conclusion that somehow Islam is the sole cause of them being crazy. That's like saying porn causes rape and therefore porn should be banned. Or some poeple abuse telephones and therefore all telephones should be banned. Or some poeple cannot handle gambling or alcohol therefore they should be banned. There is a lot of anti-islam anti-iran propaganda in the media today. I find it disheartening that history is repeating itself and we apparently have not learned our lessons from Nazi Germany where Jews were persecuted by germans just a little while ago.

Name: humanity

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 06:03:50 -0700



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you perverts keep saying that muslims were slave traders which is a fallacy to a very great extent. islam teaches that slave should be freed not put in chains for the rest of their natural life.what you call slavery is what you did to the black man over 400 years by selling their children after raping them of course being the perverts that you are and siring kids to sell as cattle ,cats and dogs. all these abominations are the preserve of the christian and jew behaviour patterns, nothing to do with muslims. even if some muslims did bad, it does not mean islam condoned it, a criminal act is a criminal act whoever does it, so why is islam on trial??? 9 people out of 10 in the roman world were slaves, it is only muslims who freed the large part of them, you only have to see your history of the christian inquistion and their impact on humanity which is to this today still not giving justice to the oppressed in south america and africa, asia etc. the most tyrannical,barbaric,anti-human people on the face of the earth were and are the christians with they masters the jewish zionists who are the real financiers of this sickness in the world. what one of you perverts has to write based on historical truth is that islam has murdered and killed 100,s of millions of people on earth like you chrisrians and jews or any other religion for that matter!! you will never be able to do this because it never happened,the most peaceful, loving,kind.sober and pious people on the face of this earth is the muslims trying to live a life based on their revealed scriptures unlike yours which you have perverted to suit your own ends based on your evil,selfish desires which is at variance with what god has expected of you!

Name: humanity

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 06:18:25 -0700



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just to educate any judeo-christian perverts reading this blog. when you lot go into ecstacy shouting hallelujah i am sure you do not understand what you are saying! in english hallelujah means "OH GOD YOU ARE WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE" in arabic we say ALLAH LU JAH whcih means the same thing,the difference is that we as easterners put the JAH AT THE END and you westerners put it at the beginning due to your language. in truth what you and we muslims are saying together is OH ALLAH YOU ARE WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE when we say hallelujah. i hope this makes some cobwebs disappear from your intellects so that we can be loving and friendly to each other as human beings instead of playing the game of the devils in human form, zionist jews, who are making us fight each other for their own nefarious ends.

Name: Joseph Capp

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 06:39:55 -0700



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I live in Brooklyn there is no "hell" your talking about. Many Muslims temples have been threatened, fire etc. So if they were sensitive, and out of order that's one thing but to wave a headline like yours around is outrageous and fear mongering of the worst kind. You have problem only a doctor can help. Joseph Capp

Name: Yuri Fegnydjit

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 07:01:22 -0700



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Bloomberg passed an ordinance whereby nobody can take pix without a permit. And WTF is an investment banker doing in Bed-Stuy? Sightseeing? The hookers or drug dealers? What would you do if "a sand nigger" was taking pictures outside your church? Call Bill O'Reilly?

Name: dor

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 07:22:48 -0700



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worthless shitty article not to mention false representation of mohammed, look at the world more clearly and you'll see that terrorism is a human element not islamic

Name: Joe Everstein

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 07:38:15 -0700



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I'm not Islamic, But this article and the whole bullshit premise of this jackass "journalist" who wrote this Schulz, maybe that should be spelled: Schmuck. "Ooooh, Oooooh--- I nearly became a Musilm, but then 9/11 saved me" please!! Gag and retch.... this writer is a Grand Stooge for the "Real" players in 9-11, the Zionist Jackals and he is just drumming-up racism for his masters, this reads like a 50's piece about mixed race neighborhoods written by a white supremist ....hmmmmmm and we all know where working a mob of people into a lather about another race of people being "bad and no good" leads us to.....or has Schulzy forgotten ..... the air fills with gas...and it isnt the Zionist propaganda being spouted by this "journalist" and his ilk!!!

Name:

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 07:38:20 -0700



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Unsourced Article - Why should we believe you????

Name: HitlerIsCross

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 07:39:24 -0700



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Hitler was muslim? He killed millions of people. Musollini was muslim? Bush was muslim? Dracula was muslim? They kill million people each and still continuing by Bush no they are all not muslim, they are xxx. This peaceful movement is why muslim growth is faster than world population growth, and Vatican told us muslim already surpassed catolic as the largest. See at youtube.

Name: So Tired:

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 07:40:31 -0700



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Guess how tired I am of hearing about Christians, Jews, Muslims? Every race on this planet has had its turn at shitting on another. Every religion within these "races" has been there shitting on someone else as well. At some point everyone wants to be "on top" of it all. How do they get "on top" of it all? By showing how "wrong" everyone else is, how "evil" they are, how "dangerous" they are, and then, they shit on whoever doesnt follow along. Looks like Islam is shitting a little more some days than the Jews or Christians.

Name: Rasheed

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 08:00:46 -0700



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Peace on all god fearing human beings. We love you, but you hate us. We preach your lost souls, but you kill our women and kids We teach who wants to learn, you rape our countries We illuminate people, you destroy anyone and everyone who is not like you, just read the above comments you make and the one humanity makes, it is evil against reason. The wolrd is not blind to what is going on, go on search the truth about islam, a religion about submission to the only one worthy of worship... Peace and love is islam, not those you trained to kill We share the same planet and you have decided to destroy it along with us, one of you wants to nuke the hell out of us MUSLIMS, how clever, what do you think will happend to you ith GOD's help we all be

Name: Tim

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 08:07:17 -0700



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Funny, with all the verbal attacks on Moslims there is no discussion about who brought them in here: www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html

Name: Disgusted

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 08:56:40 -0700



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Actually if you study history you will find that the African slave hunters and traders were Arab Muslims, so much for the religion of peace. Even today the real old fashioned Muslims do not respect the colored people, even if they are of the same religion. Also they must learn by rote the Koran in the Arabic language, even if they do not understand what they say. This is not the sign of a mature religion, but only shows immaturity of its followers. Peace be with you.

Name: john

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 09:15:00 -0700



Comment

turn them on the jews. then turn us lose on them.its

Name: Nihad Awad

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 09:19:16 -0700



Comment

Islam is a religeon of peace . Sumbmission to Islam, or we will grant Infidels etrenternal peace by beheading them. Infidel women and children are not innocent , rape them and kill them as you please . If the US Govt does not submit to the Authority of Sharia , we will overthrough the Govt via violence and death . CAIR is an opperation of the QUDS force . Iran will conquer America. Allahhu Akbar !!!

Name: DWC

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 09:23:32 -0700



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I certainly hope this incident was reported to the authorities. The last time I checked, kidnapping was a federal offense.

Name: peace....

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 09:31:49 -0700



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thats it 'disgusted',,let your anger consume you.keep it going.wallow in your hateful ignorance.i will pray for you.peace.

Name: Michael

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 10:33:18 -0700



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It's a shame that folks cannot seperate militant Islam from the average arab who just wants to be left alone to go to work and raise his kids and not have bombs dropped on his family. The extremists are doing just what they want. They are making the entire world intolerant. The fact is in my opinion these morons ought to be deported. Period! They serve no useful purpose here. None whatsoever. Google the speech that the prime minister of Australia gave recently about Muslims and aliens in his country. It was poetry and he spoke for all Australians. I'd like to see the same speech given in this country by our next president. Enough with all the political correctness. Get them OUT of here. M

Name: andrew jones

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 10:35:45 -0700



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its so easy to tell that this is a very bad article that only wants to hurt islaam but glory to ALLAH youll never put out the light of islaam as it shines even in bigot america

Name: Mary Ann - CA

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 10:44:48 -0700



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This is a very dangerous web site. A web site whose sole purpose is to defame an entire planet of Muslims and promote hate against the religion of Islam. I would hope that readers to this site can see that and have some brains to think for themsevles. This sounds like an Anti-Islamic site. God forbid any of us are Anti-Semiti, we would have numerous Jewish groups coming down on our head. I guess there are double standards everywhere...(I will be surprised if the censors let my comments be posted)

Name: longshanks

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 10:57:36 -0700



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I can only hope that in my lifetime, modern religions go the way of ancient religions; that new generations look back on Islam, Christianity, and Judaism the way our generations laugh at Greek and Egyptian mythology. They are all equally ridiculous, and unfortunately, often violent mechanisms of control.

Name: hello

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 11:24:40 -0700



Comment

religion will never go away as long as there is a social and spiritual need for it. Religion serves a social purpose in the middle east, just as laws serve a purpose in the west, and culteral and unspoken social customs serve a social need in the far east. In the middle east in particular, islam serves the social need for: 1. Uniting warring tribes that have no vested interest or common cause otherwise 2. A way of controlling who gets resources 3. Sex and marriage 4. The spiritual and social need for people to bond together and have personal control and knowledge over a chaotic world It would seem the best way to decrease the need for religion, would be to increase education, solve the economic problems of an area. And also to bring peace to a region. With education, people are no longer ignorant and there is no need for myths and religion to fill the void that is created by not knowing the rules of the "game of life". With economic prosperity - there is no need to faction off people into gangs or seperate tribes in order to compete for resources. In the middle east, they often use religion for this purpose - in the united states you have "gangs", for example. As with regard to sex and marriage. Different societies solve that problem in different ways. In india, you have the red dot on the forhead, and in the west, it is the ring on the finger. Although admittedly, this doesn't always prevent social instability caused by infidelity. In the middle east, you have burkas, or you have a dictator that has very strict laws and punishments for any transgressions. Prostitution might have to be "legalised". I'm not suggesting that these methods are necessarily the best for a particular region, but I suspect that any long lasting change has to come about in increments and has to be slow. Any quick change is doomed to fail unless you are looking at genocide of some sort - which in of itself has enourmouse difficulties and consequences to overcome. And is probably the more difficult option to acheive despite the fact it would seem to be, at first, more convenient. Also realize, that you will never be able to get rid of religion in certain areas 100%. Some poeple will always need a spiritual safety net of some sort that cannot be filled by other factors. You are not going to get rid of religion by bombing people to death, however. If anything, that would seem to contribute to the opposite of someone trying to get rid of religion. Solve the social, economic, spiritual, and sexual needs of poeple, and the reasons for whatever mechanism is in place that doles out these resources (in this case religion), will eventually go away.

Name: abigdog

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 12:41:09 -0700



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uhm, and we should believe this becuase an anti-arab, anti-moslem website says that it happened? how "ANTI-SEMITIC".

Name: Mr. J

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 13:08:24 -0700



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Salaam, The story as told is such an outrage that one reasonably hopes for a 2nd source or other form of confirmation, given that it is certainly an outrageous tale. One hope this is not concocted to rouse the rabble. If this is the case, then Bus Smith certainly must report this matter to the police and have this issue brought before a judge and a jury of us Brooklyn residents. Obviously, even this Muslim American finds the notion that a group of people, regardless of their association, can grab people off the street completely unacceptable, and definitely against my understanding of Islam and the message of the Beloved Prophet (SBUH). Salaam

Name: It's all a scam.

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 13:46:38 -0700



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These religions are crap and have been perverted beyond belief. And all who follow are blind believers of fairy tales or stories stolen from older cultures and religions. The sad part is lives are lost over this crap. People are oppressed. And the religious leaders steal the money from the following dummies (or hopeless people who have nothing else to cling to). Notice how religion is a tax free organization that brings in millions if not billions, the leaders are well taken care of but the communities have turned into shit towns. People put their money in and see it go to where? Certainly not back into the community. When was the last time a syngogue, church or a mosque built a hang out center for youths to engage in fun alternatives rather than the streets and violent gang things. Shit they're like gangs themselves, I guess they just fund themselves. Where does all that tax free money go? It's all a scam. Not to say our existence is a coincidence but you had better believe out of good common sense that this supreme being is not just an invisible man that actually favors one religion over another when they all pretty much teach the same thing, and he allows wars to go on and horrible things for whatever reason as "He" sits by to watch for millenia and does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it. Islam as well as Christianity has some bullshit with them and woe to anyone that isn't one of them, that pretty much makes you a devil or agent of the devil cause you don't want to believe what they do. But in those Islamic countries, some of those laws that they follow from the Quran are just plain retarded as well as the punishments for them. Like speaking with the opposite sex that is not a relative. I understand it to a certain degree, but I just feel people should be allowed to associate with and date whomever they please w/o making arrangements with the family. Maybe I'm too Westernized though. Maybe this keeps the rate of young girls screwing the neighborhood down and dragging the family name through mud and reduces the rate of cheating spouses as well as STD's. I don't know, but I don't agree with it, either sides. I'm against Islam because of it's severe strictness, it doesn't allow for much freedom. If you go to the middle east and do as little as question senseless things you disagree with it or something similiar, first you'll get lashes then imprisoned and finally say goodbye to your head. Thats just wrong and too much like a cult to me. It sounds cruel but no I'll just keep that part to myself.

Name: chris

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 15:11:57 -0700



Comment

ALL religions are false, demonic, and worthless - crutches and props for the faithless, the racists, and the supremists.

Name: DA

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 15:12:12 -0700



Comment

Don't let what happened in London happen in New York; there are virtual "no go" areas in Londistan, where non Muslims are glared at and made to feel uncomfortable, refused service in restaurants and stores, and verbally accosted if the dress isn't in line with Muslim standards / expectations. English women called "Whore!" on a public street? Just because they haven't covered their face? Because they used makeup? A reality in parts of Londistan.

Name: LC

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 15:56:16 -0700



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For all the rants of these Islamosocialists and that is what inhabits America in these cowardly failures hiding in Islam, no one seems to ever trace the funding. Congress could in tax policy make Islam taxed with real taxes of 60% like the rest of American pay each year when Islam is funded by non American sources which all of Islam is in donations from Middle East billionaires promoting this hate socialism. No hiding donations in front foundations nor funneling money. Tax it all and once Islam looses it's funding it will collapse as it is a subsidized propaganda network and not a religion when the funding is coming from outside the United States. Democracy mob rule will fall, but Islam without Americans buying oil will wither as fast as a vine cut off on a hot day. Simple economics.

Name: fresh breeze

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 15:58:49 -0700



Comment

i find this so amusingly written. thnx for the humor., breeze.

Name: Chi0ne1

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 16:08:20 -0700



Comment

Radical Islam, Zionism, Christianity all answer to the same entity, Lucyfer(a female entity). Getting the masses to fight among themselves is a trick of the elite. As long as we fight each other, they win. We need to get past labels, there are only two types of people, the elite(and their puppets) and the masses.

Name: John Smith

Date: Thursday May 08, 2008

Time: 19:36:29 -0700



Comment

Its too bad things have come to this. But chances are they were probably Moussad anyways so cudos to them

Name: Nasser

Date: Friday May 09, 2008

Time: 03:35:58 -0700



Comment

I was in New York 3 years ago in a Friday sermon where Imam Siraj Wahhaj gave a sermon against the atrocity on Sept 11 and spoke out against terrorism. Why are you people making up stories about this man. Get a life. What you should be talking about is the dancing Isralies who were filming the Sept 11 terrorist attack from Hoboken New Jersey, and find out why they ran from the FBI. Talk about why Building 7 imploded on Sept 11.

Name: KJ

Date: Friday May 09, 2008

Time: 20:50:27 -0700



Comment

Did Bus Smith report his ordeal to the cops? What did they have to say?

Name: Bubba Johnson

Date: Friday May 09, 2008

Time: 22:03:37 -0700



Comment

Infidels, unite. You who were once mighty crusaders. Infidel was originally a Latin word used by the Christians. The true infidels, the muslims, turned this word against you. Like the sons and daughters of pigs that they are, the muslims take your words and try to make them theirs. Look at the Quran. It is a reworking of the Hebrew and Christian scriptures, turned to satisfy their own pagan ways. Mohammaed, hell be upon him, was a pagan and a false prophet spoken of by Jesus, the one True Son of God. Fight against the scourge of the Earth, islam. Fight against the true satan, my brothers and sisters in God, and fall not unto the enticements of the flesh spoken by the allah, the moon god, who would try and fail to usurp the power and glory of God! How's that for some verse, islamist pigs.

Name: Mr.Rony

Date: Saturday May 10, 2008

Time: 00:55:56 -0700



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I request all the Muslims,Christians, Jews Hindus others please read your holy books for Muslims it is quarn only version for others pls read all verions, line by line isolate yourselves,think deeply look at the sky and request your creator ( if you believe )"Oh Creator if you r really there then guide me to the truth" rather than throwing mud to each other. Thank you.

Name: machu

Date: Saturday May 10, 2008

Time: 07:12:55 -0700



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all religions are being gradually uncovered as forms of mass 'hypnosis' designed to make us all soft targets. The meek shall inherit the earth! (meek adj. , meeker , meekest . Showing patience and humility; gentle. Easily imposed on; submissive) in other words do as i say and you'll get everything(oh by the way did i mention you have to wait till you die to get it, how convenient!) Christianity has already suffered in the UK after reports of Paedophile priests, arch deacons and no doubt worse. Brainwashing of people for religious purposes has resulted in some of the worse humanitarian treatment ever known, and most religions are reeling at the fact that they can no longer preach with intimidation and violence as they used to. Christianity seems to have accepted this downscale in following and support and will, i think, eventually disapear completely. Islam however shows no signs of this It has such a vast following in countries that still (mainly due to a seeming lack of self belief), practice and follow 'to the book' at the cost of human rights and lives. And the isolation and maltreatment of half of those on earth, women. It is my opinion that the extremity of Islam's teachings and the level at which they openly threaten other religions or even non belivers, will only worsen as the vast majority of westerners wake up to Religions Negative affect on society as a whole, and those that do believe, become more unstable and unreasonable in realising that they turn to religion only as a way of seeking purpose in life and leadership. I have nothing against those who feel the need to 'believe' in a supreme being of some sort,in the same way i don't mind people who believe it is unlucky to walk under ladders!(not that i believe it).What i do hate, is those who endanger and threaten our very existence in order to fulfill what they have been 'told' is true. As long as there is religion, there will be conflict, terror, murder, abuse genocide and worse. And as long as religious leaders control governments, banks, police, etc there's nothing we can do about it.

Name: ALI

Date: Saturday May 10, 2008

Time: 20:50:25 -0700



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PEOPLE ARE GUIDED, NOT BY CHOICE.

Name: Asad AbdurRahman

Date: Monday May 12, 2008

Time: 21:22:26 -0700



Comment

Masjid At-Taqwa is an anti-Shi'a Mosque. Yet you blame a whole religion for the actions of an intolerant few. As if Siraj and his Wahabi buddies are the representatives of the entire religion. You spread this poison, and have the nerve to talk about tolerance. That's like me blaming all of Christianity for the crimes of the cross wearing Nazis in Germany. Or the Protestant Christian Ku Klux Klan. Honestly, I'm glad you did not become a Muslim, because I'm tired of you racist and intolerant crackpots giving our religion a bad name. You're good where you are. So stay there if you will. Your return is to Allah anyways:-)

Name: Bob the Aussie

Date: Wednesday May 14, 2008

Time: 01:19:38 -0700



Comment

Don't you just love the way that "peace loving" muslims keep their women down? Why doesn't the West just take the dam oil, this would stop the money that is going to terrorist organisations from oil revenue?

Name: Kat

Date: Thursday May 15, 2008

Time: 17:48:15 -0700



Comment

BLAH BLAH BLAH ALL RELIGION SUCKS INCLUDING ISLAM

Name: TRUTHSEEKER

Date: Thursday May 15, 2008

Time: 23:15:59 -0700



Comment

YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR SOURCES, FROM A EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT, I WAS PRESENT THAT DAY, ALONG WITH A RETIRED NYPD DETECTIVE WHO HAPPENS TO BE AN INSTRUCTOR IN THE CLASS. THIS STORY IS A TOTAL FABRACATION, MADE UP BY BOS SMITH AND PAUL WILLIAMS. BOS SMITH HAS SINCE RECANT HIS KIDNAPPING AND HAULED OFF BY FORCE CHARGES. GO TO, NO COMPROMISE BLOGTALK RADIO, DATED 5/08/08.NO POLICE WAS CALLED, NO KIDNAPPING CHARGES WAS FILED BECAUSE THEY (BOS SMITH) WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED FOR FILING FALSE CHARGES.BE CAREFUL ABOUT SPREADING FALSE REPORT, LAWSUIT IN THE MAKING.

Name: Thinker

Date: Friday May 16, 2008

Time: 08:33:09 -0700



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This story spread like fire and showed the amount of hate that some people have for anything Muslim. Ignorance of something makes you fear it and it transforms into hate and that is exactly what is going on here. You are uninformed or misinformed and did not do any effort to verify this story. I believe if anyone of you is really sincere in getting true knowledge you would at least try to verify the authenticity of Bos’s account. One of the many things to keep in mind is the fact that Bos was accompanied by Paul Williams who has been promoting anti-Islam propaganda and he has a book coming out soon (hint, hint). If you are not convinced that Paul williams is an anti-Muslim, right wing bigot; watch this video. See what he says at the beginning of the 5th minute. www.youtube.com/watch?v=O06neC7vaUA

Name: Dave Gaubatz

Date: Tuesday July 01, 2008

Time: 08:27:45 -0700



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Good article. Siraj and I have debated one another on ABC. He is a very dangerous man for young Muslims. His lectures were very violent, but after 9/11 he toned them down. He still sells the old lectures though! In order to obtain deeper intelligence I went through a pseudo conversion (revert) to Islam in 2007 with Siraj's trainee (Imam Johari/Dar Al Hijrah), thanks, dave Gaubatz www.kidsandterrorism.com