Ambasa Profile Blog Joined July 2008 United States 29 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-22 13:22:33 #1



Progamer - 18 month sentence, 3 years suspended sentence, 3 million won fine, 120 hours of community service, 40 hours of gambling treatment program.

Progamer - 1 year sentence, 2 year suspended sentence, 120 hours of community service.

Ex Progamer - 6 month sentence, 1 year suspended sentence, 40 hours of gambling treatment program

Ex Progamer - 6 months sentence, 1 year suspended sentence, 40 hours of gambling treatment program



Note on "suspended sentence": If they don't screw up within that time period, they actually don't end up going to jail, and they count that you have served your sentence after that period is over.



The other progamers who were involved were let off with a fine, iirc. I don't know if there was anything past that, but since I haven't seen anything regarding them, I assume that is true.



Source: So, the sentencing occurred today in Korea (the 22nd). Basically, they have a week to appeal the sentences. Out of the people who got sentenced, those of interest areProgamer Justin - 18 month sentence, 3 years suspended sentence, 3 million won fine, 120 hours of community service, 40 hours of gambling treatment program.Progamer sAviOr - 1 year sentence, 2 year suspended sentence, 120 hours of community service.Ex Progamer By.1st - 6 month sentence, 1 year suspended sentence, 40 hours of gambling treatment programEx Progamer ShinHwA - 6 months sentence, 1 year suspended sentence, 40 hours of gambling treatment programNote on "suspended sentence": If they don't screw up within that time period, they actually don't end up going to jail, and they count that you have served your sentence after that period is over.The other progamers who were involved were let off with a fine, iirc. I don't know if there was anything past that, but since I haven't seen anything regarding them, I assume that is true.Source: http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111462&db=issue I'm the better carbonated milk, thank you. See? I'm even Terran!

Heyoka Profile Blog Joined March 2008 Temple of EE-Sama 22506 Posts #2 Maybe I'm in the minority here but people going to jail over video games is the funniest thing in the world to me.



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DiamondTear Profile Joined June 2010 Finland 164 Posts #3 So this is actual jail time and not a suspended sentence?

Klive5ive Profile Blog Joined January 2008 United Kingdom 5895 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:15:34 #4 1 year in jail seems intuitively wrong to me.

They should have fined him more and less jail.



edit: Ah he's not certain to be jailed, that makes more sense. Don't hate the player - Hate the game

fusionsdf Profile Blog Joined June 2006 Canada 15384 Posts #5 they all deserve jail, without question.



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magha Profile Joined March 2010 Netherlands 424 Posts #6 Oh my god, I cant believe this is actually happening. Savior in the brick for a year?!

Ambasa Profile Blog Joined July 2008 United States 29 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:54:31 #7 On October 22 2010 17:49 DiamondTear wrote:

So this is actual jail time and not a suspended sentence?



Well, the "Probation" actually means suspended sentence, so they don't actually go to jail unless they screw up during to probation, it looks like.



I updated the OP post to take into account this information. Well, the "Probation" actually means suspended sentence, so they don't actually go to jail unless they screw up during to probation, it looks like.I updated the OP post to take into account this information. I'm the better carbonated milk, thank you. See? I'm even Terran!

dcemuser Profile Joined August 2010 United States 3246 Posts #8 On October 22 2010 17:53 Ambasa wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 22 2010 17:49 DiamondTear wrote:

So this is actual jail time and not a suspended sentence?



Well, the "Probation" actually means suspended sentence, so they don't actually go to jail unless they screw up during to probation, it looks like.



I updated the OP post to take into account this information. Well, the "Probation" actually means suspended sentence, so they don't actually go to jail unless they screw up during to probation, it looks like.I updated the OP post to take into account this information.



I'm still not sure it is clear enough - I think people are going to read it and go OMFG SAVIOR GOING TO JAIL.



I know that was the first thing that went through my mind upon reading it. I'm still not sure it is clear enough - I think people are going to read it and go OMFG SAVIOR GOING TO JAIL.I know that was the first thing that went through my mind upon reading it.

b_unnies Profile Blog Joined March 2006 3579 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:00:15 #9 im clueless on laws, but if probation means that they dont go to jail unless they screw up, why is probation period longer than jail time ?

undyinglight Profile Joined December 2008 United States 593 Posts #10 Betting is illegal in South Korea. I wonder if any of them will attempt a Martha Stewart style comeback after they serve their time. I wonder if they will be able to compete ever again or if their reputations are tarnished for good. That would be cool if there was some kind of prison league that started up as a result of this. Rise Up!

msc Profile Joined September 2010 Malaysia 18 Posts #11 i dont get it why are they sentenced. can anyone enlighten me? i like turtles

dcemuser Profile Joined August 2010 United States 3246 Posts #12 On October 22 2010 18:01 msc wrote:

i dont get it why are they sentenced. can anyone enlighten me?



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cHicKeLoR Profile Joined October 2008 Germany 559 Posts #13 wow.. this seems so wrong...

Scorch Profile Blog Joined March 2008 Austria 3347 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:05:10 #14 So do I get this right? They don't go to jail at all unless they commit a crime during the probation time? And if they do screw up, they are imprisoned for the duration specified in the OP?

Or is the probation time after / in addition to a compulsory jail time?

msc Profile Joined September 2010 Malaysia 18 Posts #15 On October 22 2010 18:02 dcemuser wrote:

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On October 22 2010 18:01 msc wrote:

i dont get it why are they sentenced. can anyone enlighten me?



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dtz Profile Joined September 2010 4316 Posts #16 Progamer sAviOr - 1 year sentence, 2 year probation, 120 hours of community service.



k.. any law students here?



does this mean he goes to jail for 1 year. if his rehabilitation / community service is done well, he is out ( total jail time = 1 year) otherwise he goes for 1+2 years



or..



he doesnt go to jail but if he commits crime within 2 years, he will go to jail for 1 year.

mcc Profile Joined October 2010 Czech Republic 4561 Posts #17 On October 22 2010 18:03 Scorch wrote:

So do I get this right? They don't go to jail at all unless they commit a crime during the probation time? And if they do screw up, they are imprisoned for the duration specified in the OP?

Or is the probation time after / in addition to a compulsory jail time?



If they don't screw up for the duration of their probation they are not going to jail at all, if they do screw up, they are going to jail for the time specified in the sentence, so Savior for 1 year. If they don't screw up for the duration of their probation they are not going to jail at all, if they do screw up, they are going to jail for the time specified in the sentence, so Savior for 1 year.

mcc Profile Joined October 2010 Czech Republic 4561 Posts #18 at least that is how it works here in Europe, but it makes sense it works like that in other countries also.

shell Profile Joined October 2010 Portugal 2714 Posts #19 If we assume starcraft is like any other sport in S. Korea.. then i guess this is right!



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Hrrrrm Profile Joined March 2010 United States 2025 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:19:27 #20 On October 22 2010 18:09 dtz wrote:

Progamer sAviOr - 1 year sentence, 2 year probation, 120 hours of community service.



k.. any law students here?



does this mean he goes to jail for 1 year. if his rehabilitation / community service is done well, he is out ( total jail time = 1 year) otherwise he goes for 1+2 years



or..



he doesnt go to jail but if he commits crime within 2 years, he will go to jail for 1 year.



The way it works in the states is you serve your sentence, in Savior's case 1 year in jail and after he's done he has 2 years probation(normally checking in with your parole officer, no drug use, upstanding citizen type crap) where if he violates probation he goes back to jail to serve the rest of his probation there. If he wasn't going to spend anytime in jail they wouldn't have a sentence unless it's a suspended sentence type thing. Korean justice system might work completely different though.



They deserve going to jail for what they did. Screwing up the integrity of a sport by gambling is probably the worst thing a competitor can do other than killing/harming another. Sad that it happened but, at least justice is served. The way it works in the states is you serve your sentence, in Savior's case 1 year in jail and after he's done he has 2 years probation(normally checking in with your parole officer, no drug use, upstanding citizen type crap) where if he violates probation he goes back to jail to serve the rest of his probation there. If he wasn't going to spend anytime in jail they wouldn't have a sentence unless it's a suspended sentence type thing. Korean justice system might work completely different though.They deserve going to jail for what they did. Screwing up the integrity of a sport by gambling is probably the worst thing a competitor can do other than killing/harming another. Sad that it happened but, at least justice is served. alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)

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