In an interview with 'Face The Nation' host John Dickerson, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, says the House Republicans' healthcare bill will not pass through the Senate. "If we get what we got from Ryan - Obamacare light - he will not get the votes."



"I think there is a separation between the two," Paul said about President Trump and Speaker Ryan.



"I have talked to the president, I think, three times on Obamacare. And I hear from him that he is willing to negotiate. You know what I hear from Paul Ryan? It is a binary choice, young man.



And -- but what does a binary choice mean? His way or the highway. There are two choices, according to him.





SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: I think it is basically Obamacare-lite. Keeps the subsidies, keeps the taxes for a year, then keeps the Cadillac tax forever, the tax on good insurance.



Keeps the individual mandate, interestingly. You know, Republicans have complained for years, saying we didn't like the government was going to make you pay a penalty. Well, now instead of paying the penalty to the government, you pay the penalty to the insurance industry.



There's also bailouts for the insurance industries. The one primary thing that is wrong with Obamacare that is most visible to everybody is that premiums are rising through the roof, soaring in the individual market. That will happen under the Ryan plan as well, because they do nothing to fix the fundamental problem...



DICKERSON: You say that Speaker Ryan is pulling the wool over the eyes of the president. Really, pulling the wool?



PAUL: I think there is a separation between the two.



I have talked to the president, I think, three times on Obamacare. And I hear from him that he is willing to negotiate. You know what I hear from Paul Ryan? It is a binary choice, young man.



And -- but what does a binary choice mean? His way or the highway. There are two choices, according to him.



DICKERSON: Well, I think his argument would be, the binary choice, you do this now through reconciliation, a Senate process that is kind of a pain, and then you have a second piece of legislation that does the rest.



PAUL: Well, what we are hearing is a binary choice is, it is the Ryan plan or the status quo.



And what he has rammed through his committee is his, without any amendments. And that's a question. If we get what we have got from Ryan, Obamacare-lite, he will not have the votes. And we have to get to that point before true negotiations begin.



Right now, I think there is a charm offensive going on. Everybody is being nice to everybody, because they want us to vote for this. But we are not going to vote for it.