Andy Richter, the long-running late-night sidekick on Conan O’Brien’s series of talk shows, was an early adopter of Twitter, becoming one of the platforms most vocal and politically active celebrities. But there’s one trend he’s never been able to get into: podcasts. In the video above, Richter talks about why he’s never embraced podcasts, why he prefers old-fashioned radio, and why he still listens to Howard Stern.

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