On the latest edition of Being Libertarian Presents, Charles Peralo interviews conservative icon Glenn Beck, a television and radio host who owns TheBlaze, and formerly hosted his show on Fox News.

In starting off on the topic of Gary Johnson, Glenn Beck asserts that while he’s not endorsing anyone, that Gary Johnson is likely the person he’s going to be voting for. He went on to say “I wish I liked him more than I do, I think he’s kind of goofy, and I think he’s bigger government that I care for. When I look at the 3 or 4 people that are running, he’s clearly the best of the lot, but I have some real issues with him.” Beck notes that Gary Johnson doesn’t “play the game of saying it wasn’t so bad” that he honestly didn’t know about Aleppo, but also realizes that it wasn’t the best strategic move to do so. Beck praised Johnson’s honesty, and asserts that Johnson doesn’t pander. Beck also believes that Gary should be in the debates.

Talking about the Libertarian Party and its presidential slot, he points out that he really liked Austin Petersen because he “speaks his language more,” and is young and promising. Beck asserts that Rand Paul or Mike Lee would’ve been better candidates than Gary Johnson.

On to the Republican candidates, Beck says that he didn’t choose between Rand Paul or Ted Cruz at the beginning because he was waiting for one of them to exit. When asked what type of candidate he would desire, Beck said he wants a “Calvin Coolidge,” and not a Ronald Reagan-type conservative.

Discussing Trump, Beck states that if Hillary Clinton wasn’t so corrupt, that you could convince him that “Hillary is the better candidate.” On Trump’s policies, Beck asserts that he’s “beyond not conservative.”

On who he wanted to see be the two nominees for the major parties, he picked “Bernie Sanders, and either Rand Paul or Ted Cruz,” because that would spur a good discussion about free market policies and Marxist policies, because that is what America is about.

On to his book, Liars, he says that it is dense and scholarly. He notes that he said seven years ago that Republicans are just as progressive as Democrats, and that it got him heat for the assertion. He goes on to say that “the America of the founding is now officially over, the next president will cement it.” He believes we need to relaunch liberty and freedom in new ways, to come back to our roots.

Beck says “we’re arguing between two piles of progressive dog crap on the lawn” when discussing whether George W. Bush or Barack Obama did worse as president.

Discussing Ann Coulter, he quips that there “isn’t a conservative or constitutional bone in her body.” In discussing the alternative right, Beck believes that if Trump loses, we should look for their growth as an ideology.

Beck believes that the demise of the Republican Party, not unlike the demise of the Whig Party, is looming, and it’s “just a matter of time.”

On drugs, Glenn Beck said we should “end the Drug War,” as it is “modern prohibition.” He says that he believes we should legalize all drugs, but we shouldn’t let government try to help these people. “When you give people more freedom,” he says, “you also better strengthen their responsibility […] personal responsibility has to be taught” to the nation and its people. He believes we need to fight two fronts: “the freedom front,” and “the responsibility front.”