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Recorded: 25 March 2020

Released: 26 March 2020

Duration: 69 minutes, 36 seconds

A conversation with UFO blogger and researcher Curt Collins of the blog Blue Blurry Lines. Recently, together with Roger Glassel, Curt has published research into the complicated and ethically thorny relationship between the government’s AAWSAP program, Bigelow Aerospace, and MUFON.

Links:

Blue Blurry Lines

Tim McMillan: Inside the Pentagon’s Secret UFO Program

The Pentagon UFO Program’s Secret Partner

Breaking the Silence: AATIP’s Secret Partner Speaks

Keith Basterfield: AATIP or AAWSA

Paul Dean: The Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Application Program

Conversation with Simone Mendez

The Carpenter Affair

Tyler Rogoway: Tom DeLonge’s Origin Story For To The Stars Academy Describes A Government UFO Info Operation

Bigelow Aerospace Lays off All Employees

The Cash-Landrum UFO Case Document Collection

The Roswell Slides Research Group

Host script

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Credits:

Host and Producer: Paul Carr

Music: DJ Spooky