In a segment for CBS News on the polarization of American politics, contributor Ted Koppel confronted Sean Hannity of Fox News on his contribution to the world of alternative facts.

During an interview, Hannity took issue with the notion that his viewers are mindless followers.

“We have to give some credit to the American people that they’re somewhat intelligent and that they know the difference between an opinion show and a news show,” Hannity said. “You’re cynical.”

WATCH: Ted Koppel tells Sean Hannity, to his face, that he's bad for America. pic.twitter.com/aWtMeGbp8E — Yashar (@yashar) March 26, 2017

“I am cynical,” said Koppel.

“Do you think we’re bad for America? You think I’m bad for America?”

“Yeah,” Koppel replied. “… You know why? Because you’re very good at what you do … You have attracted people who are determined that ideology is more important than facts.”

Watch the segment in the video below, via CBS:

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