"Skadoodle was a top3 caliber at one point in time" Yes, 2015 when KennyS was past his prime and the AWP nerf came out , not in 2014. "the point being made is that he was one of the elite at his role and he never dropped from there" There is not much to say here, you're just straight up an idiot, newfag and casual fanboy (seems like you don't even watch the vods) Skadoodle after the 3 finals run of 2015 Summer C9 was not an Elite AWPer under any way shape or form "That point made is to justify skadoodles legitimacy as one of the best awpers to play CSGO. I can only name 6 awpers that were and are better than him overall through history" As i said, you have to stretch the list, i literally said that if you made a serious list of real all time great awpers from csgo you'd put just 5 players, now you literally just said that Skadoodle would be #7 at best, furthering my point. "his stats, his performances and achievements speak for themselves." They do indeed, so why not actually go through them? so let's see 2014 = bunch of stat pads against online N.A tier 4 non-salaried semi-pro teams (what a god he got average 25 kills vs them, must be a bonjwa) Followed by 3 straight up booms @ groupstages at majors, followed by 3 booms at groupstages at non-majors, and oh yeah, won an ESEA LAN with a couple of tier 1 europeans that were not even trying, and that even people at the lan confirmed that Titan players were fucking around with their cellphones and all, then Beat C9 in the other ESEA LAN and btw, in both lans, it was Swag who carried them, not Skadoodle. Now let's go to 2015? doesnt play for 3 months, then gets picked up for C9 with the highest bonus in GO's history at that point in time (50.000$) and goes on to make 3 finals, lose the 3 finals, one of those 3 finals that they lost they got absolutely raped, and the other one was vs dying teams. then the major comes up and they boom in groupstages again, after ESL One Cologne 2015 there really is just no point in going thru his "feats" since he was no longer even a tier 1 player, let alone Elite Player , with your logic i could say "well Hunden is one of the best players of CSGO's history, he is like top400 of all of csgo" .....no man, when you make a top list about the absolute best, its usually just a top3, maybe a top5, you don't go up to the 7th just to be able to say that Skadoodle is part of it , that is idiotic.