ByuuN Profile Joined November 2016 Poland 678 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 15:30:15 #1



TERRAN



Poll: Cyclone



I don`t know (233)

46%



Bad change (158)

31%



Good change (114)

23%



505 total votes (233)46%(158)31%(114)23%505 total votes Your vote: Cyclone (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Siege Tank



Good change (393)

78%



Bad change (91)

18%



I don`t know (23)

5%



507 total votes (393)78%(91)18%(23)5%507 total votes Your vote: Siege Tank (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Thor



Good change (328)

80%



I don`t know (59)

14%



Bad change (21)

5%



408 total votes (328)80%(59)14%(21)5%408 total votes Your vote: Thor (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Liberator



Good change (212)

58%



Bad change (82)

22%



I don`t know (72)

20%



366 total votes (212)58%(82)22%(72)20%366 total votes Your vote: Liberator (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Banshee



Good change (177)

55%



I don`t know (73)

23%



Bad change (70)

22%



320 total votes (177)55%(73)23%(70)22%320 total votes Your vote: Banshee (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Viking



Good change (235)

74%



I don`t know (52)

16%



Bad change (30)

9%



317 total votes (235)74%(52)16%(30)9%317 total votes Your vote: Viking (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Battlecruiser



Good change (259)

80%



I don`t know (35)

11%



Bad change (30)

9%



324 total votes (259)80%(35)11%(30)9%324 total votes Your vote: Battlecruiser (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know





ZERG



Poll: Swarm Host



Bad change (164)

49%



Good change (86)

26%



I don`t know (82)

25%



332 total votes (164)49%(86)26%(82)25%332 total votes Your vote: Swarm Host (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Hydralisk



Good change (228)

65%



Bad change (92)

26%



I don`t know (31)

9%



351 total votes (228)65%(92)26%(31)9%351 total votes Your vote: Hydralisk (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Baneling



Bad change (176)

48%



Good change (127)

35%



I don`t know (61)

17%



364 total votes (176)48%(127)35%(61)17%364 total votes Your vote: Baneling (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Infestor



Bad change (184)

53%



Good change (121)

35%



I don`t know (40)

12%



345 total votes (184)53%(121)35%(40)12%345 total votes Your vote: Infestor (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Brood Lord



Good change (186)

62%



Bad change (66)

22%



I don`t know (49)

16%



301 total votes (186)62%(66)22%(49)16%301 total votes Your vote: Brood Lord (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Ultralisk



Good change (286)

86%



Bad change (33)

10%



I don`t know (12)

4%



331 total votes (286)86%(33)10%(12)4%331 total votes Your vote: Ultralisk (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know





PROTOSS



Poll: Tempest



Good change (135)

42%



Bad change (118)

37%



I don`t know (67)

21%



320 total votes (135)42%(118)37%(67)21%320 total votes Your vote: Tempest (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Zealot



Good change (228)

80%



Bad change (31)

11%



I don`t know (27)

9%



286 total votes (228)80%(31)11%(27)9%286 total votes Your vote: Zealot (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Carrier



Good change (184)

69%



Bad change (52)

20%



I don`t know (29)

11%



265 total votes (184)69%(52)20%(29)11%265 total votes Your vote: Carrier (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Dark Templar



Bad change (201)

61%



Good change (75)

23%



I don`t know (53)

16%



329 total votes (201)61%(75)23%(53)16%329 total votes Your vote: Dark Templar (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Warp Prism



Good change (201)

74%



Bad change (46)

17%



I don`t know (23)

9%



270 total votes (201)74%(46)17%(23)9%270 total votes Your vote: Warp Prism (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



Poll: Void Ray



Good change (137)

51%



Bad change (77)

29%



I don`t know (53)

20%



267 total votes (137)51%(77)29%(53)20%267 total votes Your vote: Void Ray (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know







EDIT: Adept shade vison nerf

Poll: Adept shade vision nerf



Good change (224)

69%



Bad change (71)

22%



I don`t know (29)

9%



324 total votes (224)69%(71)22%(29)9%324 total votes Your vote: Adept shade vision nerf (Vote): Good change

(Vote): Bad change

(Vote): I don`t know



My polls about upcoming changes to Legacy Of The Void :TERRANZERGPROTOSSEDIT: Adept shade vison nerf

Yrr Profile Joined June 2012 Germany 774 Posts #2 I dont even know what some of those changes are. For example Thor, Liberator or Broodlord. MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting

KOtical Profile Joined January 2011 Germany 451 Posts #3 On November 15 2016 00:23 Yrr wrote:

I dont even know what some of those changes are. For example Thor, Liberator or Broodlord.



in that case choose i don´t know in that case choose i don´t know

Yrr Profile Joined June 2012 Germany 774 Posts #4 On November 15 2016 00:24 KOtical wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 15 2016 00:23 Yrr wrote:

I dont even know what some of those changes are. For example Thor, Liberator or Broodlord.



in that case choose i don´t know in that case choose i don´t know

Why not add the changes. Why not add the changes. MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting

Edowyth Profile Joined October 2010 United States 183 Posts #5 Void ray, warp prism, and adept changes missing, possibly others. See the TL thread with comprehensive changelist. :D



I feel like you still can't get to carriers and the DT change only has impact in mined-out scenarios. "Q. How do I check a valid [e-]mail address? A. You can't, at least, not in real time. Bummer, eh?" /r/programming

Of course, you could just send them a validation email.

ByuuN Profile Joined November 2016 Poland 678 Posts #6 Up to date changes are here http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20241475/major-balance-changes-testing-now-available-11-11-2016

ByuuN Profile Joined November 2016 Poland 678 Posts #7 POLL UPDATED: Ultralisk, Warp Prism, Void Ray

Gwavajuice Profile Joined June 2014 France 1810 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 15:38:26 #8 That's so many changes really you can't decide which are good and which are bad, it's the whole new meta that has to be analysed and you can't do this without a couple of months of playing and watching pros.



Unless you're lucky and got plenty of interersting games of the test map already, but this is not my case.



For the moment, I will trust people involved in balance discussion with blizzard and think positively of this patch, even if some aspects of it seems wierd to me. Dear INno and all the former STX boys.

Ej_ Profile Blog Joined January 2013 47288 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 15:42:03 #9 it's a good patch overall imho, definitely more fun for Zerg with strong mid game units



ofc protoss flying units should just be nerfed into non-existence, because they are the living definiton of cancer, but well "Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya

KOtical Profile Joined January 2011 Germany 451 Posts #10 On November 15 2016 00:26 Yrr wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 15 2016 00:24 KOtical wrote:

On November 15 2016 00:23 Yrr wrote:

I dont even know what some of those changes are. For example Thor, Liberator or Broodlord.



in that case choose i don´t know in that case choose i don´t know

Why not add the changes. Why not add the changes.



i dont know... i havent made this poll i dont know... i havent made this poll

Musicus Profile Joined August 2011 Germany 23393 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 15:46:12 #11



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/516351-lotv-balance-test-map-changes-compilation



Edit: Personally I love the changes for zerg, since it feels like the mid game is back and it's no longer a rush to hive. That's what I hope anyway, didn't play enough games to be sure. You can link to this thread or just quote it and add the changes in a spoiler if you want.Edit: Personally I love the changes for zerg, since it feels like the mid game is back and it's no longer a rush to hive. That's what I hope anyway, didn't play enough games to be sure. Maru and Serral are probably top 5.

ByuuN Profile Joined November 2016 Poland 678 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 15:43:04 #12 As a Terran player I really like the update, it addresses my two biggest LoTV complains: tankivacs and 8 armor ultralisks

KOtical Profile Joined January 2011 Germany 451 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 15:44:24 #13 On November 15 2016 00:42 ByuuN wrote:

As a Terran player I really like the update, it addresses my two biggest LoTV complains: tankivacs and 8 armor ultralisks

and finally after 7 years we get the tank buff... "hell it´s about time" and finally after 7 years we get the tank buff... "hell it´s about time"

ByuuN Profile Joined November 2016 Poland 678 Posts #14 On November 15 2016 00:43 KOtical wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 15 2016 00:42 ByuuN wrote:

As a Terran player I really like the update, it addresses my two biggest LoTV complains: tankivacs and 8 armor ultralisks

and finally after 7 years we get the tank buff... "hell it´s about time" and finally after 7 years we get the tank buff... "hell it´s about time"

David Kim 2016 Make Terran Mech Again!

David Kim 2016 Make Terran Mech Again!

Gwavajuice Profile Joined June 2014 France 1810 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 15:54:58 #15 On November 15 2016 00:23 Yrr wrote:

I dont even know what some of those changes are. For example Thor, Liberator or Broodlord.





Oh this ones are EZPZ :



*Reduced BL range now matches Thor's anti air.

*liberator : now liberators do not counter muta as nicely as they did

*Thors anti air spalsh dmg radius : now Thors are countering muta better

* thors prioritization : now thors are good anti air in late game against armored units (they don't derp and target broodlings like they do now)



=> result : this change is meant to allow mech compostion to use thor as their primary anti air and make mech stronger vs Zerg, cause it seemed that a lot of people playing mech where complaining about the late game full air zerg armies...









Oops misread you, though you where asking what these changes are for



ignore me Oops misread you, though you where asking what these changes areignore me Dear INno and all the former STX boys.

Ryu3600 Profile Joined January 2016 Canada 468 Posts #16 Idk if this is a good suggestion but like I always thought of the sentry's attack looking like a chain that should slow people. Would it be a potential good change if Sentry's when their attack was hitting a unit would slow that unit? Like maybe by half the % of Concussive shells? Maru is the best Terran ever.

[PkF] Wire Profile Joined March 2013 France 22019 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-14 16:55:35 #17 Don't know about anything. Some things are definitely sensible (for instance 6 supply tempests, armor ultra nerf, which are long overdue), some look really strange to me (hello blink DTs or speed banshees). I would need to play the balance test map extensively to give a legit opinion but it's excruciatingly hard to find opponents, queues are like 10 minutes.

Topher_Doll Profile Joined August 2015 United States 76 Posts #18 The fact people can vote without knowing or testing the changes kind of ruins the meaningfulness of the poll doesn't it? I'm a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

MockHamill Profile Joined March 2010 Sweden 1698 Posts #19 On November 15 2016 01:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:

Don't know about anything. Some things are definitely sensible (for instance 6 supply tempests, armor ultra nerf, which are long overdue), some look really strange to me (hello blink DTs or speed banshees). I would need to play the balance test map extensively to give a legit opinion but it's excruciatingly hard to find opponents, queues are like 10 minutes.



The que time used to be 3-4 minutes but in the last few days it is much faster. Usually less then 1 minute. This is EU Diamond level though.

The que time used to be 3-4 minutes but in the last few days it is much faster. Usually less then 1 minute. This is EU Diamond level though.

KOtical Profile Joined January 2011 Germany 451 Posts #20 On November 15 2016 03:02 Topher_Doll wrote:

The fact people can vote without knowing or testing the changes kind of ruins the meaningfulness of the poll doesn't it?



ya kinda ya kinda

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