Far-right pastor Paul Blair joined Rick Wiles on his “Trunews” radio program last Wednesday to discuss the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down gay marriage bans, the debate over which Wiles said will inevitably “come to blows” as the government launches EMP attacks and the Jade Helm 15 military exercise against states that resist the ruling.

“The only way to stop force is with force,” Blair declared. The liberty to discriminate against gays is “not going to come easy,” he said, warning that “we are going to have a fist fight on our hands.”

“We’re at the point, pastor, that it’s going to come to blows,” Wiles agreed. “We have reached that point, because either we’re going to stand up and resist and suffer the consequences, or we’re going to roll over and play dead and let them take control.”

“This regime is so mad, such lunatics for power,” he continued, “I think they would use an EMP against a state that dared to defy them. I really do. I think these people are insane and they’re dangerous.”

Christians have “reached the danger level,” Wiles declared, reasoning, “That may explain why Jade Helm 15 is taking place in the South and the Western states this summer, because they know that people are starting to rise up and say ‘something’s got to happen.’ Either we take a stand, or it’s over; it’s finished.”