Presidential son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner is known for his awkwardness — but an exchange he had recently with a New York Magazine reporter takes the cake.

A BuzzFeed News report about Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s personal PR staff chronicles a peculiar moment Kushner had with NY Mag‘s Olivia Nuzzi that ended with him sending Secret Service agent over to her.

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Kushner believed Nuzzi had recorded his remarks to another journalist and requested it be off the record. Kushner then asked Nuzzi to delete the recording, which she refused to do. Afterward, Secret Service agents approached Nuzzi and told her she wasn’t permitted to record in the West Wing.

“It was tense and uncomfortable, but I didn’t want to agree to delete a recording when I was within my rights to record,” Nuzzi told BuzzFeed.

As the report notes, the moment points out just how awkward Kushner’s relationship to the media is — as well as his discomfort with his high-government profile.