It’s rare for Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos to talk frankly to the media about players he is interested in or that have been the topic of trade discussions with other clubs.

So when he does, you have to believe there is something in the works, a trigger about to be pulled. On Friday when the sixth-year GM spoke openly of his interest in free-agent reliever Rafael Soriano, and that catcher Dioner Navarro is depth from which to make a trade, it indicated something is close to happening.

“Stating the obvious here, but behind the plate with Navarro, that’s an area of depth,” Anthopoulos said. “We’re not hiding anything there. He could be an everyday guy for somebody. We like him on the team. He’s valuable. We’re glad he’s on this team, but if there’s that opportunity we improve the club and it gets him an everyday playing spot, we would do that and I’ve said that to him as well. He understands that. That’s probably the area of depth that jumps out the most.”

The Jays, by most accounts, are spending about $12 million less on 2015 payroll than they did in 2014. Anthopoulos indicated that any extra money he is allowed to spend right now would go towards the bullpen. He also confirmed he had spoken sometime in the past few weeks with Diamondbacks GM Dave Stewart about Navarro, and that he had been seeking another outfielder. That outfielder search will continue with Navarro as bait, plus the willingness to eat some of his $5 million (U.S.) salary.

In Saturday’s 7-2 victory over the Astros, Navarro made his second start behind the plate in four games since his return to the majors. Showcase? Russell Martin has made just two starts at catcher in the past five games. At this time of the season, just a third of the way into the schedule, that smacks of showing off Navarro for other teams’ pro scouts. Likely nothing will be done on either the Soriano or Navarro front until the conclusion of the June draft, which wraps up this coming Wednesday.

As for Navarro, he knows about the behind-the-scenes negotiations but prefers to leave the details to his agent and Anthopoulos. Nothing has changed since the spring.

“I really try to stay away from all that,” Navarro emphasized prior to Saturday’s victory. “The season started, this is my team and I want to do whatever. I’ll do anything for my team. Whatever they need me to do, I will do. But like I said at the beginning of spring training, I just wanted to play every day. I didn’t put up a tantrum, I just said my piece.”

And even though the 31-year-old Venezuelan’s next contract will rely heavily on the continuation of being an everyday catcher in the majors, or at least the perception of such, Navarro seems unconcerned about the remainder of this season, which is the final year of a two-year contract. He started for the Jays in Year One and believes his situation will sort itself out.

“It’s so hard for me to think ahead of time,” he said. “I’m a today guy. I’m going to live today. I’m going to do my thing today and whatever happens after that, it happens. Everything will take care of itself. Everything happens for a reason.

“I’m a huge spiritual guy. I believe (God) knows what He’s doing. Sometimes you’ll be asking yourself, ‘What the hell?’ but I’m really happy being here and I just try to do my thing. I think I’m capable of helping my team, whether it’s defensively or offensively or just being around giving energy.”

The Jays have now won all four games since Navarro’s return from an injury-rehab assignment in Triple-A-Buffalo, including behind the plate for Mark Buehrle’s shutout in Washington and Drew Hutchison’s fifth win, with relief help, over the Astros on Saturday.

It remains important for Navarro’s next contract that teams see him as a viable, 100-game catcher. He needs games. His catcher’s ERA now stands at 3.50 in 36 innings, lower even than Martin’s. But there’s more to selling Navarro; it’s been a down season so far for MLB catchers in general.

Consider there are currently 10 catchers on disabled lists around the majors. Teams that could use an upgrade in catching include the D’backs, Braves, Red Sox, White Sox, Reds, Marlins, Mariners and Rays. Of 65 players listed as catchers that have appeared in MLB games, 43 have averages under .210 and 40 have an OPS under .600.

There clearly is a need for healthy catchers that can hit.

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Anthopoulos will attempt to accommodate Navarro while negotiating for a veteran outfielder who can at least platoon and is a true outfielder instead of an out-of-position infielder.

But if the move does not help his big-league Jays, Anthopoulos won’t make it. That’s the plan.

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