These discussions always end the same, and have the same middle, and usually the same beginning.



here is something that isn't said by many at all:

"The climate isn't changing", so it would be fair to say that there is a general consensus that indeed the climate does change and is actively in the process of changing as we speak. So for all those who want to use the retarded label "climate denier", don't be that guy.



The big question most who are usually labeled "climate denier" by the really, really pompous arrogant idiots, is what percentage if any, man is responsible for the current climate change. Knowing that indeed the climate is an ever changing thing. Currently, there may be ideas, guesses, but no concrete number like 97% caused by man proven by "x". With all the factors involved, including space, the sun, the core of the Earth, the population, pollution, deforestation, alien influence, livestock flatulence, I'd venture a strongly uneducated guess that it's a tough number to prove, let alone imagine.



With the 97% number, that has been bandied about since this became a political stance along with a scientific discussion, it almost seems as if anyone who doesn't jump on the train, will be ridiculed, shamed, and forced to either accept the label of denier, of conform to the overwhelming 97%.



None of that is to say that Climate change is a hoax, or that we will all die a fiery death if the global temps rise 1.5 degrees, it's just to help those who would fall into the category of "really, really pompous arrogant idiots", that some of us just have more questions and a tiny bit of mistrust, based on previous experience.