Gavelkind Succession Example [ edit ]

Petty Kingdom of York

Primary title: Duchy (or Petty Kingdom) of York

Eldest son: Sælræd

2nd son: Sæxbald

Due to some weird history, Sælræd is Count of Chester (in Lancaster), but he is the vassal of the King of Norway. We do not have the title of Duchy of Lancaster.

Title de jure ruler Heir Duchy of York - Sælræd County of Lincoln York Sælræd Duchy of Mercia - Sæxbald County of Hereford Mercia Sæxbald County of Warwick Mercia Sæxbald County of Lancaster Lancaster Sæxbald County of Derby Lancaster Sælræd

Questions:

1) Since Sælræd is the vassal of a King, will he remain a vassal when he inherits the Duchy of York title?

In this case he did not, he became independent (and took Chester with him). Would this have been different under other circumstances, e.g. if Sælræd was vassal of the King of England (de jure ruler of Duchy of York).

2) Why did the County of Lancaster go to the 1st heir and Derby go to the 2nd?

3) What happens to vassals outside York and Mercia? (e.g. Gloucster.)

In this case Glouster remained a vassal of York. Would all such vassals go to the court of York, or would they be split between the courts of York and Mercia?

4) How would things be different with 3 sons?

Baron-level vassal opinion on succession law change [ edit ]

The current wiki states that they shouldn't care, but the leige's succession law also applies to their own titles, possibly changing who their heir is. I could see why they may be upset.

Crown Authority [ edit ]

The current wiki states "Not required for duchy level and lower." It's wrong : the Crown Authority of the kingdom or empire applies.

Yeah, the note wasn't clear: I think it refers to independent counts and dukes with non-existing de jure kingdom, cf Crown_Authority#No_Crown_Authority_Law. --Romulien (talk) 18:09, 25 August 2014 (CEST)

Republics also disinherit [ edit ]

I played as Eastern Roman Emperor and conquered Venice, then I usurped the title and gave it to my son. This disqualified him from succession. 81.84.174.249 17:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC).

Also, another note: Feudal elective should change its name to "Elective", only, as it is the game calls this succession law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.84.174.249 (Talk) 01:31, 18 May 2015 (WEST)

Verify opinion modifiers [ edit ]