The Toronto Raptors won 59 games last season, added Kawhi Leonard, and have a deep roster loaded with both veterans and young, up-and-coming players. So why is everyone talking about the Celtics and the Sixers?

ESPN NBA experts Jackie MacMullan and Brian Windhorst discuss the Raptors' place in the Eastern Conference hierarchy.

Editor's note: This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.