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"'VR' Coalition Files Bar Complaints Calling for Disbarment of 12 Bush-era Torture Lawyers"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... bb said on 5/19/2009 @ 6:51 am PT...





Way true, re: framing language, 'outside groups' turns to 'coalition of liberal groups' --- at the NYT, Scott Shane started with 'a coalition of left-wing advocacy groups.' That guy has other examples of putting op-ed-type framing language in 'news' articles.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... tinytim said on 5/19/2009 @ 10:13 am PT...





There were no commercial planes on 911. Torture came about because "terrorist" attacked us on 911. There were no commercial planes on 911. To this day...not one single piece of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 911 has EVER been tested, inspected, analyzed, or verified in ANY WAY by anyone on the planet. The FBI now says it has never nor ever will test debris because "we all saw it on TV"(2008). There were no commercial planes on 911 and you are going after men who followed orders years later?

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 10:52 am PT...





End the career of ALL "torture" and "death squad" affiliates. STARTING WITH TOP OFFICIALS, and working down to grunts who were sucked in but still in the back of their mind KNEW something was wrong. I honestly can't blame the low - level - compartmentalized folk that that were facing - dishonorable for refusing orders. BUT, with that said, you know what's right and what's wrong in your motherfucking heart! The TOP OFFICIALS need to come down first. Then sort out the lower levels. MAKE A FUCKING EXAMPLE!

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 12:10 pm PT...





I know nobody gives a fuck, But no longer is the school doing elections, no we got to go to 7560 Amherst St, Sacramento, CA 95822 to vote this stupid fucking election. I'm already hot from going to the school. My zip code is 95831

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 12:13 pm PT...





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COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 12:18 pm PT...





If anyone's kind of fucking confused about what I am talking about, it's the fucking Statewide Special Election, Sacramento California Tuesday, May 19, 2009 So far I been denied the right to vote because of geographic location malfunction. Being the angry motherfucker I am I will eventually make it to the SECOND location.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 1:02 pm PT...





To be honest, they did list the POLLING PLACE on the back cover, and so all my wasted energy to get to the school was pretty much on me. However the day is getting hot, and I don't feel like going out via pedal power thit time, a second time, to the

"

34K 154173

ANTIOCH PROGRESSIVE CHURCH

7650 AMHERST ST

PCT-0047534 001 485082V

"

Nice address... eh? Also did I mention my Sample ballot was HELD and DELAYED by the USPS (United States Postal Service) because of a "box full" PS Form 3849, "Sorry We Missed You", by the mail carrier.. And to bring this even deeper nasty-ness, first by ignoring the fact that my USPS "Land Park Station" is 10 miles away round trip on foot, there was a time when I didn't even have a valid California ID. When I tried to pick my god damned fucking mail up, the guy said show me your ID. I thought I had it on me, but couldn't find it, Then as I was leaving with no mail I found it, and CUT the holy shit off the next person in line, saying there's no way your going next. Anyway, my Special ballot has SPECIAL MARKINGS ON IT. first there's a hand written in ballpoint PEN "4111" under the Access Access YES handicap thingy on the back cover, and some kind of red stamp (which I need a lens to read, but looks like 1st (illegable), 2nd (illegable)) and then there is a hand written 1171 1.4-11-9 on the back cover, what these mean I do not know. 1171 is my address. Could it be USPS scribbling that is benine? I don't know. However, I think it is.. It's still bullshit that it's on my ballot, which I didn't bring, and which is the reason I WENT TO THE WRONG POLLING PLACE--a place that doesn't even exist. I am resting right now because of the heat, I will try to head out again, in a bit. (Watch this space - maybe nothing-- I hope-- but you never know...)

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 1:10 pm PT...





To fight somewhat for my MAIL CARRIER, I did work out a thing where my videos for my show would be unofficially dropped on my front porch, instead of a PS Form 3849, "Sorry We Missed You", in hind sight it's good I asked the CARRIER not the POSTMASTER and bureaucracy. Which would limit choices to fighting the HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION to replace the 12 box SIZE A UNIT -1 outbound (CBU) Clusterbox unit with something that can actually handle mail--perhaps SIZE B UNITS +PARCEL drops. I know you read this and don't care, but it makes the content of my tv show late. Cooling off, but still angry ~p

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 2:26 pm PT...





Anyone want to drive me to the polls? Considering I won't put my vote in the scanner (if it still exists) and I always have to go through the same crap. I literally don't feel like even going. And really if you think about it, what difference will it make? If we DO pass the fascist crap, the math will catch up and we're lost, and if we DONT pass the crap, the math will catch up an we're lost. All in all, California is roasty toasted. They'll need to crack down on our civil rights or survival rights to balance their cooked books. Okay, yeah, I will try again to vote. But god damn it, especially those of you just reading this post saying in your mind, "oh your just a freak." NO YOUR THE FREAK! You watch your fascist TV set, and corporate fascist news, pretending nothing is wrong, making opinions on us, all the while we've gotten crushed trying to tell you the truth. I don't want to vote. It's a hassle, it's berating at the point where I turn my fucking ballot in to a machine which can no longer be watched by humans.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 2:31 pm PT...





They say, FEED your ballot into the diebold scanner. What happens after that?

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 2:33 pm PT...





You want me to support your cause? Outlaw these fucking electronic vote tabulation devices!

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 2:46 pm PT...





By the way, just some information for you reading here... Ever since these diebold scanners came out, I have NOT put my ballot into the slot. I have always forced them to open the AUXILIARY TRAY and manually place my ballot in there. Sure the bastards probably empty the tray and feed it in at the main site's scanner. I NEVER AGREED TO IT OR SUPPORTED IT OR WANTED IT. It's on them for screwing my vote up. Not me.

Just something for you on the fence to think about, it a small protest, albeit ineffective. It's better than doing NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welp, now I got that anger out, I guess I will head over again. I wish there was a THREAD dedicated to this special election so MY SHIT don't get burried.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 2:49 pm PT...





Being that I didn't ask Debra Bowen for a video pass, there will be no video...I won't break the law. Maybe you will with your choppy ass video cameras? I need a tank of Ice Water before I go..

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 2:51 pm PT...





choppy ass video cameras? ==

choppy ass cell phone video cameras? I got to lose the anger now... peace

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... Emily said on 5/19/2009 @ 3:11 pm PT...





Join us on Facebook:

Disbar The Torture Lawyers Now!

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 5/19/2009 @ 4:32 pm PT...





okay final update for California Special Election (today's date) I am glad I lost the anger. but the story doesn't end sadly. I should have brought a camera or an AUDIO recording device, as the 2nd Polling place I went to on "Florin and Amherst" had a poll worker ( I made them identify ) who first told me they were just a voter, and then I asked why they were LEANING on the diebold scanner, and they said they were a poll worker. (So I was lied to just coming in the door.) Then the next poll worker could not find my name in the book. The poll worker next to him said, "don't be starting no crap in here." They all ganged up on me after than as I said, "why are you talking to me like that?" For you idiots out there that think this is nothing get on with your life. Fine bitch. And I did, I found a nice lady outside who dialed up my information to the "polling place look-up" number (916) 875-6500 after people standing around gawked in horror at the nonsense the number played on us I found out my polling place was at the OPPOSITE side of amhurst. (Remember I am not driving) I make it to the 3rd polling place, and outside the parking lot there is a Asian lady who can't get her mini van started, being the nice guy I am I try to help, as I am helping I notice a POLL WORKER show up to help as well. Not only does the guy not know how to do battery cables, he's out in the parking lot.... Anyway the lady after I hooked up both sides of the cables and got the charge car running, we find out the asian lady has her keys in the ignition and the doors are locked. heh . I am real hot . So I bail . I lock my bike up . and go try to vote . inside I am nice and let several folks go first, while I catch my breath, soon my conversation with someone in line goes like this, "Did we cut in front of you?" "No, go ahead this is my third polling place" Immediately I am greeted with an overzealous poll worker who asks me what's your address, what's your address what's your address, what's your name, what's your... I totally ignore her and pretend she ain't there and wait for the poll worker with the book who smiles and ask's name. I give the name, get the ballot, ask for a pencil, then fill it out and take off the zip strip and lay it on TOP of the diebold scanner. No I didn't put it in the machine, usually they make a big deal out of it, but I was walking out before they had a chance.. On the way out I visit the asian lady again, noticing her hood was still up. I asked are you okay, need your hood put down, etc. No, I am okay, someone is coming.. I head a little further into the parking lot, Some weird lady with some official looking line badge shows up. She acts like I am intimidating her, so I go away from here and turn my back to her, and turn my bike upside down (no kickstand) in the shade and light a smoke to try to relax some, a black lady comes out and sparks up a conversation, she seems informed about the electronic voting problem, I tell her visit bradblog, and god bless. I leave the church parking lot and find an asian (I think Laotian this time) guy whit massive blood coming out of his mouth, sitting in the sun, in the street under a no parking sign, I check on him, "Are you okay?" he doesn't understand. "Are you good"

"You good?" He replies, "I'm good" I say, need some smokes? "No. " He has two packs of nonfilters, layin there they look crushed though. I say, "need water" I make the sign of drinking. "No" "I'm good" What a horrible day, I am sitting in front of a fan now trying to cool. I felt like throwing up when I got home from the heat from the traffic. So, basically the polling places were a massive nightmare of nonsense, the same crap machines are in place, nothing has changed. We are screwed if we think things are changing for the better.

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 5/19/2009 @ 5:19 pm PT...





Disbar them and put then put them in a stockade so people can throw rotten fruit at their NWO sellout faces.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... MsKitty said on 5/20/2009 @ 3:23 pm PT...





How about disbarment and imprisonment with the people they had tortured as room mates.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Real Truth said on 5/31/2009 @ 10:23 pm PT...

