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Oct-04-15 Marmot PFL : This match is very peculiar. Over 2/3 of the previous games between the two players were draws and now you have four decisive games. Black plays an inferior line of the Tarrasch and gives up castling on move 8. frankly this looks more like a rapid chess exhibition than a serious match.

Oct-04-15

PhilFeeley : <offramp: Was 57.Ke4 another case of the king being moved, after resignation, to the centre of the board?> And since Stockfish showed eval 0.0 on Ke4, that's the explanation it had to be.

Oct-04-15

perfidious : Unless Karjakin had the desire to fail at the precise moment when ultimate success in this game was within his grasp, 57.Ke4 would have made no sense whatever. Even a tyro understands that Ke6 is the shortest way home.

Oct-04-15 Karposian : <Penguincw: Like here, what if Karjakin <actually> played 57.Ke4. All of a sudden the eval on chess24 drops from 12.67 to 0.00! If Karjakin found 57.Ke6, then okay, resign, but what if he played something else!> Yes. In addition to my suggestion 57.Rf7+, 57.Ke6 is also good, of course. If what <Amadeus> states is correct, Ke6 was the actual move played. I've never understood resigning when it's the opponent's move either. You never know! 'It ain't over until it's over' to quote our recently departed Yogi Berra :)

Oct-04-15

perfidious : <Karposian> Or, as Yogi also stated: <One word says it all: you never know>

Oct-04-15 Karposian : <perfidious: Even a tyro understands that Ke6 is the shortest way home.> You're right. 57.Ke6 is the quickest way to queen the g-pawn, even better than 57.Rf7+ followed by 58.g7. After 57.Ke6 White gets a new queen in 4-5 moves.

Oct-04-15 Karposian : <perfidious> LOL. When I read these Yogi-isms it's like Deja Vu all over again :)

Oct-04-15 Percy41 : 57. Ke4 was not played. Svidler resigned after 56. ... Rg2 with White's King at f5. 57. Ke6 wins, of course.

Oct-04-15

MissScarlett : Ke6 was played. I saw it on the video.

Oct-04-15 Jack Kerouac : <Karposian> Whenever I hear that Yogi 'Deja Vu' reference, it's like Deja Vu .

Whenever I hear that Yogi 'Deja Vu' reference, it's like Deja Vu. Whenever I hear that..

Oct-04-15 Karposian : <Jack Kerouac> LOL. Good luck getting out of that mind loop :)

Oct-04-15

offramp : I also do not understand why players resign very early. Here is an odd example, Shirov vs Timman, 1996 where Timman surely should have played a few moves more. This game is different. White has a won position, after 58.Ke6, so there is not much point playing on. I mean other games.

Oct-04-15 Pulo y Gata : Wow, Peter reminds me of Tal when once he confessed to playing for a draw against Korchnoi and lost after much suffering. Never again, Tal vowed. Svidler was justly punished for his anemic play.

13...Nd6 was a pretty shot, and Karjakin played instructively against that isolani on d6. Instructive stuff, even if or because black played badly.

Oct-04-15

perfidious : <Karposian> I should point out that I do not rate as even a tyro, though maybe a good place to call home would be Tyro, Mississippi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyro,...

Oct-04-15

Sally Simpson : "...highly amusing and ironic that <Overgod> himself goes on vacation whenever Karjakin is playing good..." It's obvious. Overgod is Karjakin.

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If I see the term 'Svidler on the Roof' one more time I'm going to jump in the canal. (just did a search, it first made it's appearance on here in 2004.)

Oct-04-15 Jack Kerouac : Well. It's Sunday and after seeing 'Pawn Sacrifice' (Entertaining movie though of course flawed for movie purposes, as the chess community would know), here is a real representation of the past (though flawed on some levels as, again, the chess community would know). Your Sunday Chess fix. Sponsored by the corporate conglomerates who are not that much interested in truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwL...

Oct-04-15 Ulhumbrus : <offramp: I feel sorry for Svidler. It was one of those games that you lose without ever even having a threat. You sit there as a mute spectator. Against 80% of Grandmasters Svidler could have broken out... But Karjakin is very good in these positions.> On the chessbase page according to GM Alejandro Ramirez Svidler could have solved most of his problems with 28...f5! He says <28...f5! I think would have solved most of Black's problems. The pawn structure after 29.exf5 29.Kd2 fxe4 30.fxe4 Re7= Black will have a superb knight on e5. 29...gxf5 looks ugly, but Black's activity is strong: 30.g3 h4! 31.gxh4 Rh7 with equality. > He says as well ( amongst other things) <44...d5! 45.e5! <45.g3 dxe4+ 46.Ke3 <46.Kxe4 Re8+ 47.Kd4 Ne2+ picks up g3.> 46...Nd5+ 47.Kxe4 Rd6 close to equal.> 45...fxe5+ 46.Kxe5 d4 47.Rd2 Kc5 White is still better, no doubt, but there isn't anything clear yet. > Here is the link: http://en.chessbase.com/post/baku-f... This suggests that a player who wants to defend the Fischer endgame has to know (amongst other things) when such breaks can be played

Oct-04-15 Jambow : Svidler swindled himself, after playing so well and winning some impressive games he just looks flat? Well there is still chess to be played but from a psychological front Sergey now has the big advantage, but as we just saw that isn't what we think it is. I don't know who to root for so I guess I will just enjoy the tie breaks. Thanks cg for the coverage.

Oct-04-15

chancho : Karjakin's new moniker: The Comeback Kid.

Eljanov had him on the ropes, and Sergey prevailed.

Svidler is now feeling the pressure, and it appears like an imminent collapse awaits him. The late Yogi Berra said it best: It ain't over till it's over... Damn right!

Oct-04-15

OhioChessFan : <If I see the term 'Svidler on the Roof' one more time I'm going to jump in the canal. (just did a search, it first made it's appearance on here in 2004.)> If I see any more words put in Yogi Berra's mouth that he didn't say, I'll join you in the canal. Joe Garigiola created that myth on the speaking circuit when he discovered many of the old baseball sayings somehow seemed funnier when attributed to Yogi. I had an old baseball book growing up that had those things spoken by players long before Yogi showed up.

Oct-04-15

FSR : <chancho: Karjakin's new moniker: The Comeback Kid. Eljanov had him on the ropes, and Sergey prevailed.> Karjakin also came back after losing his very first game of the tournament, to Alex Onischuk. http://chess-news.ru/en/node/20030 He's had <four> must-win games in this tournament, and won all of them.

Oct-07-15

morfishine : <perfidious> I left a short note in your forum a few weeks back. Other interested parties are eager for your opinion or take on the issue. Best, morf *****

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