[GSL] Code-S August RO16 Preview Text by Waxangel Graphics by SilverskY

Code-S RO16 Preview



With our predictive skills coming under fire, we decided to shirk our responsibility and dumped the burden of guessing match outcomes into the hands of the masses. For the RO16, your fellow denizens of the internet will be your guides! Yes, this time all of you will have an opportunity to be wrong as well.



Three GSL polls of high repute have been gathered here:



Liquibet: TeamLiquid's very own system where users guess the winner to earn points. Highly susceptible to "voting from the heart syndrome."



GomTV Poll: A poll on GomTV's Korean website where fans can vote on who they think will win the match. No stakes.



PlayXP Toto: A virtual betting system run by the Korean community site PlayXP.com. PlayXP users can bet points on the players, while the odds on the players shift depending on how the betting goes. Odds listed below are in decimal format.







*Updated to reflect Toto betting for Wednesday games. With our predictive skills coming under fire, we decided to shirk our responsibility and dumped the burden of guessing match outcomes into the hands of the masses. For the RO16, your fellow denizens of the internet will be your guides! Yes, this time all of you will have an opportunity to be wrong as well.Three GSL polls of high repute have been gathered here:TeamLiquid's very own system where users guess the winner to earn points. Highly susceptible to "voting from the heart syndrome."A poll on GomTV's Korean website where fans can vote on who they think will win the match. No stakes.A virtual betting system run by the Korean community site PlayXP.com. PlayXP users can bet points on the players, while the odds on the players shift depending on how the betting goes. Odds listed below are in







SlayerS_MMA vs. OptimusPrime.WE







PlayXP Toto Odds:

MMA: 1.72

Optimus: 2.25 MMA: 1.72Optimus: 2.25

Finally, the rematch! Despite the fact that he went into the Super Tournament finals an underdog and crushed MMA 4-0, Polt is once more the underdog in this match-up. It's understandable to some degree, since Polt has been no better than mediocre as of late, while MMA's MLG Anaheim silver and recent Code-S victory over Nestea stand out immediately. In addition, Polt achieved his 4-0 victory over MMA while marine-tank was still the standard style of play, and we don't know much of Polt's mech TvT skill yet. Even so, 0-4 is 0-4, and I'm surprised to see MMA being favored by all three websites.





ST_Bomber vs. MVP_Keen







PlayXP Toto Odds:

Bomber: 1.25

Keen: 4.24 Bomber: 1.25Keen: 4.24

Good God in heaven... Yes, Bomber has an absurd TvT record (70% win rate) while Keen's is fairly poor (38%), but this is a ridiculous margin in public opinion. When you consider the content of Keen's games, and the fact that three of his eight losses were against a top class player in MVP, he's still just an average TvT player at worst. There's a large amount of variance in RTS games, and giving someone an 80% or greater chance to win is pretty insane. Not that I think that Bomber will lose, but Nestea vs Zerg is the only matchup right now that deserves that kind of margin.





oGs.Zenio vs. oGs.TOP







PlayXP Toto Odds:

Zenio: 1.83

TOP: 2.08 Zenio: 1.83TOP: 2.08

I can't really come to a solid conclusion on the Korea-Foreign gap on this one. At least in the case of MMA/Polt, you could explain the MMA favoritism due to his exposure to the foreign fans at MLG events. When I asked Liquid`Jinro about why Koreans like Zenio better than foreigners, he responded:



"Because Zenio is a f***ing BOSS. Non-Koreans for some reason think he's 1) Bad 2) BM, but he's actually 1) Good 2) GM. Zenio BM'd Idra a lil with a ceremony after beating him, so people hate him, I guess?"



Straight from the mouth of an oGs-TL player!



Idra could not be reached for comment (okay, I didn't even try).





ST_Virus vs MVP_Genius







PlayXP Toto Odds:

Virus: 1.90

Genius: 2.00 Virus: 1.90Genius: 2.00



A player who's made a nice comeback after a long period of sucking, versus a player who's been solidly average for the last few months. Since Genius' best matchup has been PvT in recent months, the viewer choices seems like a reasonable projection. Koreans fear 1/1/1 like the plague however, so maybe that's why they're always willing to give any Terran player the benefit of the doubt.





IMNesTea vs IMMvp







PlayXP Toto Odds:

MVP: 2.19

Nestea: 1.76 MVP: 2.19Nestea: 1.76



I think we have Tastosis to thank for this one. Their half-joking, half-serious insistence that Nestea is indeed, a god, has caught on with most global fans of GSL. As for Korean fans, he's still a god, too, in their eyes. Just a slightly lesser one. Taking into account Nestea's recent struggles vs TOP, sC, and MMA, I think I'll side with the Koreans here and say this one is pretty even.





EG.HuK vs oGs.NaDa







PlayXP Toto Odds:

Huk: 2.53

Nada: 1.58 Huk: 2.53Nada: 1.58



Yikes! A blatant display of voting from the heart! The two regional fan favorites took the lion's share of the votes in their respective areas of the world. Since Nada's had a huge amount of foreign fans since the early 2000's, it's not surprising to see Huk take a smaller margin in Liquibet than Nada has on GomTV. It's a shame that the PlayXP betting isn't open yet, as the system of odds tends to lead towards more objective results.





ZeNEXPuzzle vs. SlayerS_Ryung







PlayXP Toto Odds:

Puzzle: 2.02

Ryung: 1.88 Puzzle: 2.02Ryung: 1.88



Not much to say here. Ryung's in beast mode, Puzzle's in beast mode, Terran has 1/1/1. Both TL and and GomTV are wrong.





HongUnPrime.WE vs. ST_July







PlayXP Toto Odds:

Hongun: 2.1

July: 1.82 Hongun: 2.1July: 1.82



This is the part where I realize that 80% of TeamLiquid doesn't watch enough GSL, and sigh.



'Sigh, 80% of TL doesn't watch enough GSL. No wonder they thought blue-flame hellions were an innovation.'







Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

KiLL_ORdeR Profile Blog Joined June 2009 United States 1483 Posts Last Edited: 2011-08-22 21:06:48 #2 That's whatsup



I'm surprised that so many people are voting for MMA over Polt, honestly it's quite an even matchup. In order to move forward, we must rid ourselves of that which holds us back. Check out my stream and give me tips! twitch.tv/intotheskyy

Harrad Profile Blog Joined October 2010 999 Posts #3 eghuk fighting

Superouman Profile Blog Joined August 2007 France 2153 Posts #4 Am i that very tired or do i see the article written two times? Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude

cLemenZa Profile Joined November 2010 England 66 Posts #5 On August 23 2011 06:06 Superouman wrote:

Am i that very tired or do i see the article written two times?



Reading this when high is not good for my brain. Reading this when high is not good for my brain. 'The sun never sets on the British Empire,' 1919

swim224 Profile Joined May 2010 Botswana 255 Posts #6 Um... the post is written twice, thanks for all the polls though ....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin

swim224 Profile Joined May 2010 Botswana 255 Posts Last Edited: 2011-08-22 21:08:38 #7 Srry, double post ....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin

SafeAsCheese Profile Joined June 2011 United States 4924 Posts #8 I can't believe so many people are voting NesTea to beat MVP



Did they not watch him barely pass his Ro32 matches?

CoMMoDuS Profile Joined February 2010 Germany 506 Posts #9 Wow, people forget about gsl finals fast, accoding to the mma-polt stats. There is no unemployment amongst overlords-Artosis

camconnor Profile Joined April 2011 31 Posts #10 It's really interesting seeing the differences in opinions between regions. I like this alot.

Thanks

VGhost Profile Blog Joined March 2011 United States 2105 Posts #11 On August 23 2011 06:06 Superouman wrote:

Am i that very tired or do i see the article written two times?



I'm apparently that tired too, except I'm pretty sure I'm not tired. I'm apparently that tired too, except I'm pretty sure I'm not tired. #4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.

sebsejr Profile Blog Joined April 2011 211 Posts #12 sick writeup! lol'ed in the end !!!

hTRen Profile Joined May 2011 Canada 52 Posts #13 On August 23 2011 06:06 Superouman wrote:

Am i that very tired or do i see the article written two times?



I just pulled an all nighter working and I see it twice so maybe we're both hallucinating. I just pulled an all nighter working and I see it twice so maybe we're both hallucinating.

renaissanceMAN Profile Joined March 2011 United States 1707 Posts #14 no offense, but I'd rather read an article that isnt full of pictures of statistics



it was an ok read but~ On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet

Darathor Profile Joined February 2011 United States 326 Posts #15



But hmm, not sure if I like this new format. Instead of giving out their opinion on who will win directly, they just say that a bunch of people on liquibet are wrong I voted for July, not necessarily because I think he will win, but I because I oh so sincerely hope he will. I know it says in the article that liquibets are often susceptible to the heart-syndrome, but that's really the only one I voted with the heart on. I was 50/50 on Nestea/MVP but chose Nestea on a coin-flip, and on HuK/NaDa I voted for HuK, but regretted voting as fast as I did. The article is on the post twiceBut hmm, not sure if I like this new format. Instead of giving out their opinion on who will win directly, they just say that a bunch of people on liquibet are wrongI voted for July, not necessarily because I think he will win, but I because I oh so sincerely hope he will. I know it says in the article that liquibets are often susceptible to the heart-syndrome, but that's really the only one I voted with the heart on. I was 50/50 on Nestea/MVP but chose Nestea on a coin-flip, and on HuK/NaDa I voted for HuK, but regretted voting as fast as I did.

TheNessman Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 4157 Posts #16 hahah "dumped the burden of guessing match outcomes into the hands of the masses"



"Not much to say here. Ryung's in beast mode, Puzzle's in beast mode, Terran has 1/1/1. Both TL and and GomTV are wrong." ~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~

HyruleanTubist Profile Blog Joined October 2009 United States 189 Posts #17 Yeah, there's a double post within a single post lol. Thanks for the charts, though! The regional trends are pretty interesting, too bad PlayXP didn't have stats for the later matches yet.

knL Profile Blog Joined June 2010 Germany 400 Posts #18 This is the part where I realize that 80% of TeamLiquid doesn't actually watch GSL, and sigh.



I autovoted july ... after 1 day i thought... hm maybe not your best choice I autovoted july ... after 1 day i thought... hm maybe not your best choice

Femari Profile Joined June 2011 United States 2840 Posts #19 On August 23 2011 06:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:

That's whatsup



I'm surprised that so many people are voting for MMA over Polt, honestly it's quite an even matchup.

Well MMA has been dominant recently while Polt hasn't and this time Polt doesn't have massive amounts of TvT replays from MMA and help from MKP playing MMA to back him up like last time.



Polt is really really good, but he also had a ton going for him in the Super Tournament finals against MMA.



Either way this will go 3 games.



Also lol HongUn will win. And MVP too. MVP has beaten Nestea before and he's better than MMA. Well MMA has been dominant recently while Polt hasn't and this time Polt doesn't have massive amounts of TvT replays from MMA and help from MKP playing MMA to back him up like last time.Polt is really really good, but he also had a ton going for him in the Super Tournament finals against MMA.Either way this will go 3 games.Also lol HongUn will win. And MVP too. MVP has beaten Nestea before and he's better than MMA. Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun

ProxyKnoxy Profile Joined April 2011 United Kingdom 2572 Posts Last Edited: 2011-08-22 21:17:35 #20 Or at least they have to be because the polls are just ridiculous xD



And also MVP will beat Nestea fairly easily in my opinion (2:0 or not sure if its bo5. If bo5 then 3:1). I'd love to be proven wrong though.



Haha I think in terms of the Liquibets some people just vote for the bigger name or their personal favourite instead of considering recent performances resultsOr at least they have to be because the polls are just ridiculous xDAnd also MVP will beat Nestea fairly easily in my opinion (2:0 or not sure if its bo5. If bo5 then 3:1). I'd love to be proven wrong though. "Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"

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