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COOPERMANAbsolutely. One of the things I think is interesting, one reason why church leaders may not see this to the same extent, is that there are still very many Americans who are religious, still quite a few people who say they go to religious services every week and so on. The group that is unaffiliated and that is rising is coming largely, that rise, out of the people who weren't going to religious services on a regular basis anyway, and an increasing share of those people who used to maintain a nominal kind of affiliation, maybe they said they were Presbyterian, even though they grew up in a Presbyterian church but hadn't gone in 30 years, a lot of them now are dropping any label.