mikkmagro Profile Joined April 2011 Malta 1509 Posts Last Edited: 2013-11-04 08:14:50 #1



1. Evil Geniuses - 20,475

2. SouL - 13,225

3. Team Liquid - 12,700

4. Incredible Miracle - 12,100

5. Woongjin Stars - 10,150

6. StarTale - 9,025

7. Team Acer - 8,900

8. SK Telecom T1 - 6,900

9. MVP - 6,450

10. CM Storm - 5,625



11. Axiom - 5,525

12. Prime - 5,175

13. SK Gaming - 4,275

14. mousesports - 4,225

15. Azubu - 4,125

16. Millenium - 4,050

17. ROOT Gaming - 3,450

18. Alliance - 3,400

19. Quantic Gaming - 3,250

20. Samsung Galaxy - 2,575



21. For Our Utopia - 2,425

22. Invictus Gaming - 2,250

23. mYinsanity - 2,100

24. KT Rolster - 1,925

24. Team Empire - 1,925

26. NewRoSoft - 1,750

27. CJ Entus - 1,450

28. Team Dignitas - 1,400

29. Natus Vincere - 1,200

30. Jin Air Green Wings - 1,175



31. RoX - 1,125

32. compLexity - 1,075

33. Fnatic - 1,000

34. Karont3 eSports Club - 850

35. ROCCAT - 700

36. XMG - 675

36. Virtus.pro - 675

38. Team Nv - 650

39. Clarity Gaming - 625

39. Gama Bears - 625



41. Western Wolves - 600

42.

43. Copenhagen Wolves - 500

44. Team MiA - 400

44. Zenith of Origin - 400

44. IvDgaming - 400

47. ESC Gaming - 350

48. Team Property - 300

48. Yoe Flash Wolves- 300

50. Vega Squadron - 275



51. 3D Clan - 200

52. Team ALTERNATE - 175

52. FXO North America - 175

54. Anexis eSports - 150

54. Isurus Gaming - 150

56. Kaos Latin Gamers - 125

57. Frenetic Array - 100

58. Cascade - 75

59. Denial eSports - 50

59. AT Gaming - 50

59. Core Gaming - 50

59. Deimos Esports - 50

63. nexmultigaming - 25

63. New Star HoSeo - 25

63. Team LDLC - 25

63. Team Killing Spree - 25









DreamHack Valencia 2013 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler + Quantic Gaming - Up 3 ranks from 12th to 9th

ROOT Gaming - Up 3 ranks from 16th to 13th

mousesports - Up 4 ranks from 20th to 16th

mYinsanity - Up 3 ranks from 21st to 18th

ENCE eSports - Up 3 ranks from 37th to 34th

compLexity - Up 1 rank from 23rd to 22nd

Fnatic - Up 1 rank from 22nd to 1st

Copenhagen Wolves - Up 1 rank from 30th to 29th.



IEM Shanghai 2013 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler + Quantic Gaming - Up 1 rank from 10th to 9th

MVP - Up 2 ranks from 24th to 22nd

Western Wolves - Up 1 rank from 26th to 25th

SK Gaming - Up 4 ranks from 30th to 26th

RoX - Up 2 ranks from 31st to 29th

Invictus Gaming - Up 2 ranks from 33rd to 31st

NEW: Frenetic Array in 37th



WCS Korea 2013 Season 2 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler + Prime - Up 12 ranks from 24th to 12th

SK Telecom T1 - Up 7 ranks from 13th to 6th

StarTale - Up 3 ranks from 12th to 9th

Incredible Miracle - Up 2 ranks from 4th to 2nd

KT Rolster - Up 4 ranks from 20th to 16th

CJ Entus - Up 8 ranks from 33rd to 25th

MVP - Up 5 ranks from 22nd to 17th

FXO - Down 1 rank from 11th to 12th

Samsung Khan - Down 1 rank from 10th to 11th

Woongjin Stars - Down 1 rank from 3rd to 4th

Jin Air Green Wings (Former 8th Team) - Up 3 ranks from 30th to 27th

ROOT Gaming - Down 1 rank from 14th to 15th

NEW: New Star HoSeo in 42nd



WCS Europe 2013 Season 2 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler +

MVP - Up 7 ranks from 17th to 10th

mousesports - Up 8 ranks from 20th to 12th

SK Gaming - Up 10 ranks from 29th to 19th

NEW: Team MiA in 49th

NEW: Team LDLC in 56th

NEW: Cascade in 56th

NEW: ESC Gaming in 53rd





WCS 2013 Season 2 Finals Changelog:

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StarTale - Up 5 ranks from 11th to 6th

Alliance - Up 4 ranks frpm 18th to 14th

Team Acer - Up 7 ranks from 16th to 9th

SK Gaming - Up 2 ranks from 19th to 17th

CM Storm - Up 3 ranks from 21st to 18th

MVP - Up 1 rank from 10th to 9th

Prime - Up 1 rank from 14th to 13th

NewRoSoft - Up 6 ranks from 29th to 23rd

STX SouL - Up 1 rank from 5th to 4th





WCS America 2013 Season 2 Changelog:

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CM Storm - Up 8 ranks from 18th to 10th

Team Acer - Up 1 rank from 9th to 8th

Team Liquid - Up 1 rank from 3rd to 2nd

Invictus Gaming - Up 19 ranks from 41st to 22nd

Axiom - Up 1 rank from 8th to 7th

ROOT Gaming - Up 5 ranks from 22nd to 17th

Quantic Gaming - Up 1 rank from 20th to 19th

Incredible Miracle - Down 1 rank from 2nd to 3rd

Team Nv - Up 4 ranks from 38th to 34th

FXO.NA - Up 8 ranks from 54th to 46th (even though they disbanded!)

Zenith of Origin - Up 9 ranks from 54th to 45th

Complexity - Up 3 ranks from 31st to 28th

Gama Bears - Up 2 ranks from 44th to 42nd

NEW: IvDgaming - at 54th

Millenium - Down 1 rank from 12th to 13th

Denial eSports - Up 2 ranks from 56th to 54th

Isurus Gaming - Down 1 rank from 47th to 48th

Fnatic - Down 2 ranks from 28th to 30th

AZUBU - Down 1 rank from 11th to 12th





Dreamhack Bucharest 2013 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler +

Team Acer - Up 1 rank from 8th to 7th

ROOT Gaming - Up 1 rank from 17th to 16th

Quantic Gaming - Up 1 rank from 19th to 18th

mYinsanity - Up 1 rank from 27th to 26th

Ence eSports - Up 4 ranks from 43rd to 39th





IEM New York 2013 Changelog:

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StarTale - Up 2 ranks from 6th to 4th

MVP - Up 1 rank from 11th to 10th

Alliance - Up 1 rank from 15th to 14th

Quantic Gaming - Up 2 ranks from 18th to 16th

Yoe Flash Wolves - Up 12 ranks from 57th to 45th

KT Rolster - Up 2 ranks from 24th to 22nd

ROOT Gaming - Up 1 rank from 17th to 16th





WCS Korea Season 3 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler +

SouL - Up 2 ranks from 6th to 4th

SK Telecom T1 - Up 2 ranks from 9th to 7th

Prime - Up 3 ranks from 15th to 12th

mYinsanity - Up 3 ranks from 26th to 23rd

AZUBU - Up 1 rank from 12th to 11th

Team Acer - Down 1 rank from 7th to 8th

Jin Air Green Wings - Up 6 ranks from 34th to 28th

CJ Entus - Up 6 ranks from 32nd to 26th

StarTale - Down 2 ranks from 4th to 6th

FXO Korea - Up 1 rank from 21st to 20th

Samsung Galaxy - Up 1 rank from 19th to 18th





WCS Europe Season 3 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler +

Acer - Up 1 rank from 8th to 7th

mousesports - Up 6 ranks from 19th to 13th

SK Gaming - Up 4 ranks from 21st to 17th

Team Dignitas - Up 7 ranks from 35th to 28th

Millenium - Up 2 ranks from 14th to 12th

NewRoSoft - Up 2 ranks from 27th to 25th

mYinsanity - Up 1 rank from 23rd to 22nd

Team Empire - Up 1 rank from 24th to 23rd

RoX - Up 2 ranks from 33rd to 31st

Team MiA - Up 9 ranks from 52nd to 43rd

ESC Gaming - Up 12 ranks from 56th to 44th

Alliance - Down 1 rank from 15th to 16th

Virtus.pro - Up 5 ranks from 41st to 36th

Vega Squadron - Up 4 ranks from 52nd to 48th

XMG - Up 3 ranks from 39th to 36th

3D Clan - Up 4 ranks from 54th to 50th

Western Wolves - Down 2 ranks from 38th to 40th

Cascade - Up 3 ranks from 59th to 56th

NEW: AT Gaming at 58th

NEW: Core Gaming at 61st

ROCCAT - Down 1 rank from 34th to 35th

Yoe Flash Wolves - Down 1 rank from 45th to 46th

Ence eSports - Down 2 ranks from 39th to 41st





WCS Season 3 Finals Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler +

SouL - Up 2 ranks from 4th to 2nd

Prime - Up 4 ranks from 14th to 10th

SK Gaming - Up 5 ranks from 17th to 12th

Incredible Miracle - Down 1 rank from 3rd to 4th

Team Liquid - Down 1 rank from 2nd to 3rd

CM Storm - Up 1 rank from 15th to 14th





WCS America Season 3 Changelog:

+ Show Spoiler +

Prime - Down 2 ranks from 10th to 12th

CM Storm - Up 4 ranks from 14th to 10th

ROOT Gaming - Up 2 ranks from 19th to 17th

Invictus Gaming - Up 4 ranks from 26th to 22nd

CompLexity - Up 1 rank from 33rd to 32nd

Gama Bears - Up 6 ranks from 45th to 39th

Zenith of Origin - Up 5 ranks from 49th to 44th

IvDgaming - Up 14 ranks from 58th to 44th

Frenetic Array - Down 1 rank from 56th to 57th

Core Gaming - Up 2 ranks from 61st to 59th

NEW: Deimos Esports at 59th

NEW: Team Killing Spree at 63rd







NB: Hellokitty's Premier Points, IdrA's Challenger Points and Dimaga's Premier Points did not count towards their respective team points as they were not on the team during that particular event. LucifroN's and VortiX's points earned whilst under Karont3 do not add up in favour of mouz.



Hope you enjoy it, and I hope I didn't do too many errors! A few weeks ago, I made a ranking of teams according to number of players in WCS. Some people were interested in a ranking according to WCS points, so here it is! This list should give a better view, as it not only includes points gained from WCS itself, but also from the events giving out WCS points.1.Evil Geniuses - 20,4752.SouL - 13,2253.Team Liquid - 12,7004.Incredible Miracle - 12,1005.Woongjin Stars - 10,1506.StarTale - 9,0257.Team Acer - 8,9008.SK Telecom T1 - 6,9009.MVP - 6,45010.CM Storm - 5,62511.Axiom - 5,52512.Prime - 5,17513.SK Gaming - 4,27514.mousesports - 4,22515.Azubu - 4,12516.Millenium - 4,05017.ROOT Gaming - 3,45018.Alliance - 3,40019.Quantic Gaming - 3,25020.Samsung Galaxy - 2,57521.For Our Utopia - 2,42522.Invictus Gaming - 2,25023.mYinsanity - 2,10024.KT Rolster - 1,92524.Team Empire - 1,92526.NewRoSoft - 1,75027.CJ Entus - 1,45028.Team Dignitas - 1,40029.Natus Vincere - 1,20030.Jin Air Green Wings - 1,17531.RoX - 1,12532.compLexity - 1,07533.Fnatic - 1,00034.- 85035.ROCCAT - 70036.XMG - 67536.Virtus.pro - 67538.Team Nv - 65039.Clarity Gaming - 62539.Gama Bears - 62541.Western Wolves - 60042.43.Copenhagen Wolves - 50044.Team MiA - 40044.Zenith of Origin - 40044.IvDgaming - 40047.ESC Gaming - 35048.Team Property - 30048.Yoe Flash Wolves- 30050.Vega Squadron - 27551.3D Clan - 20052.Team ALTERNATE - 17552.- 17554.- 15054.Isurus Gaming - 15056.Kaos Latin Gamers - 12557.Frenetic Array - 10058.Cascade - 7559.Denial eSports - 5059.AT Gaming - 5059.Core Gaming - 5059.Deimos Esports - 5063.nexmultigaming - 2563.- 2563.Team LDLC - 2563.Team Killing Spree - 25DreamHack Valencia 2013 Changelog:IEM Shanghai 2013 Changelog:WCS Korea 2013 Season 2 Changelog:WCS Europe 2013 Season 2 Changelog:WCS 2013 Season 2 Finals Changelog:WCS America 2013 Season 2 Changelog:Dreamhack Bucharest 2013 Changelog:IEM New York 2013 Changelog:WCS Korea Season 3 Changelog:WCS Europe Season 3 Changelog:WCS Season 3 Finals Changelog:WCS America Season 3 Changelog:NB: Hellokitty's Premier Points, IdrA's Challenger Points and Dimaga's Premier Points did not count towards their respective team points as they were not on the team during that particular event. LucifroN's and VortiX's points earned whilst under Karont3 do not add up in favour of mouz.Hope you enjoy it, and I hope I didn't do too many errors! mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!

edgeOut Profile Joined February 2013 United States 945 Posts #2 EG-TL too imba.

Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.

Pazuzu Profile Joined July 2011 United States 471 Posts #3 very cool and great research! "It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"

URLateral Profile Joined October 2012 221 Posts #4 once stephano retires liquid will be in first

Boucot Profile Blog Joined October 2011 France 15997 Posts #5 Good job ! Surprising to see SKT1 and KT Rolster kinda low in the rankings when you see their rosters. Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot

Pazuzu Profile Joined July 2011 United States 471 Posts #6 On July 03 2013 00:43 Boucot wrote:

Good job ! Surprising to see SKT1 and KT Rolster kinda low in the rankings when you see their rosters.



you mean when you see their rolsters right? you mean when you see their rolsters right? "It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"

teddyoojo Profile Blog Joined June 2011 Germany 7873 Posts #7 myi tied with kt only because stardust won dreamhack^^ Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.

StarStruck Profile Joined April 2010 24095 Posts Last Edited: 2013-07-02 16:05:22 #8



What will they think of next. Just look at all those mini-event points outside of Korea. Wowza. Goes to show you how much meaning attending next to all events go. There really is no team perspective though because it's all about the individual accomplishment. ~_~ On July 03 2013 00:43 Boucot wrote:

Good job ! Surprising to see SKT1 and KT Rolster kinda low in the rankings when you see their rosters.



What do you think that's attributed to? They attend next to no events. Guy focuses on events outside of Korea. Seems pretty obvious to me. KeSPA has to attend more international events. What do you think that's attributed to? They attend next to no events. Guy focuses on events outside of Korea. Seems pretty obvious to me. KeSPA has to attend more international events.

Ammanas Profile Blog Joined July 2011 Slovakia 2159 Posts #9 On July 03 2013 01:02 StarStruck wrote:

What will they think of next. Just look at all those mini-event points outside of Korea. Wowza. Goes to show you how much meaning attending next to all events go. There really is no team perspective though because it's all about the individual accomplishment. ~_~



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On July 03 2013 00:43 Boucot wrote:

Good job ! Surprising to see SKT1 and KT Rolster kinda low in the rankings when you see their rosters.



What do you think that's attributed to? They attend next to no events. Guy focuses on events outside of Korea. Seems pretty obvious to me. KeSPA has to attend more international events. What will they think of next. Just look at all those mini-event points outside of Korea. Wowza. Goes to show you how much meaning attending next to all events go. There really is no team perspective though because it's all about the individual accomplishment. ~_~What do you think that's attributed to? They attend next to no events. Guy focuses on events outside of Korea. Seems pretty obvious to me. KeSPA has to attend more international events.



nah, WJS is third and they are the same.

Problem is, they don't have enough players in WCS and the ones they do have not actually manage to place high/get into season finals (for KT it's only Flash Ro16 and Crazy, for SKT only Parting, Rain and Fantasy so far. Besides Parting, none of them got to Top8 and none of them got to season finals. nah, WJS is third and they are the same.Problem is, they don't have enough players in WCS and the ones they do have not actually manage to place high/get into season finals (for KT it's only Flash Ro16 and Crazy, for SKT only Parting, Rain and Fantasy so far. Besides Parting, none of them got to Top8 and none of them got to season finals. JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!

alukarD Profile Joined July 2012 Mexico 395 Posts #10 Positive about all results?

Because I was checking the full standings list 10min ago and Naniwa by himself has 1100 points.

Plus SortOf's 475.

Either way great job n.n Die Trying

mikkmagro Profile Joined April 2011 Malta 1509 Posts #11 On July 03 2013 01:40 alukarD wrote:

Positive about all results?

Because I was checking the full standings list 10min ago and Naniwa by himself has 1100 points.

Plus SortOf's 475.

Either way great job n.n

that's cause this doesn't include any points gained from Season 2 of WCS. that's cause this doesn't include any points gained from Season 2 of WCS. mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!

Gorlin Profile Joined November 2010 United States 2749 Posts #12 Seems pointless to not give the points to a team if the player who earned them did so while on a different team.

KookyMonster Profile Joined January 2012 United States 309 Posts #13 EG Fighting!

Thanks for posting this, it was interesting to look at, and will be cool to see if Season 2 is anything like season 1, or if there is a shakeup. Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock

Proseat Profile Blog Joined February 2012 Germany 4903 Posts #14 Wonder how this would look like if the score were devided by the number of players.

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097

DusTerr Profile Blog Joined January 2011 2519 Posts #15 very cool, thanks for putting in the effort.

mikkmagro Profile Joined April 2011 Malta 1509 Posts #16 Updated with the results from DreamHack Valencia 2013!



These are the changes:



Quantic Gaming - Up 3 ranks from 12th to 9th

ROOT Gaming - Up 3 ranks from 16th to 13th

mousesports - Up 4 ranks from 20th to 16th

mYinsanity - Up 3 ranks from 21st to 18th

ENCE eSports - Up 3 ranks from 37th to 34th

compLexity - Up 1 rank from 23rd to 22nd

Fnatic - Up 1 rank from 22nd to 1st

Copenhagen Wolves - Up 1 rank from 30th to 29th

mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!

s.a.y Profile Blog Joined October 2007 Croatia 3761 Posts #17 Very cool list.



Vega Squadron should change to MiA now, as 25 points are Starbucks. I am not good with quotes

mikkmagro Profile Joined April 2011 Malta 1509 Posts #18 On July 21 2013 18:30 s.a.y wrote:

Very cool list.



Vega Squadron should change to MiA now, as 25 points are Starbucks.

those 25 points are FireCake's actually ^^ I won't be adding WCS Season 2 points until the events are completed. Also, the points are not allotted according to whom the players currently plays for, but who the player played for during the result achieved. The aim is to show that during that particular period in time, the team's investment in that player was worth it.



those 25 points are FireCake's actually ^^ I won't be adding WCS Season 2 points until the events are completed. Also, the points are not allotted according to whom the players currently plays for, but who the player played for during the result achieved. The aim is to show that during that particular period in time, the team's investment in that player was worth it. mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!

Drake Profile Joined October 2010 Germany 6134 Posts #19 since 8 years i am everytime still confused seeing tl with the dutch flag Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005

Quateras Profile Joined August 2012 Germany 866 Posts #20 Haha this is actually really cool to see :D

Hope you'll keep it updated for a long long time =) "If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."

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