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The Hateful Eight Comparison: Theatrical Version

Netflix Extended Version - Episode 3 Apr 30, 2019 - Author: Muck47 - Translator: Cruel_Hides - external link: Release:- Author:- Translator:- external link: IMDB





- 28 Deviations, including 14x alternate footage

- Difference: 1151.8 sec (= 19:12 min) without deviations from logos / credits / retrospective scenes at the beginning of the episodes 2-4



Episode 1 (Last Stage to Red Rock): 46:02 min without credits / 50:23 min m. A.

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Episode 2 (Minnie's Haberdashery): 47:20 min without credits / 51:41 min m. A.

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Episode 3 (Domerque's Got a Secret): 49:26 min without credits / 53:45 min m. A.

-> 6 deviations with a difference of 97.6 sec (= 1:38 min) without logos / review / credits



Episode 4 (The Last Chapter): 52:29 min without credits / 56:45 min m. A.

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The different versions of THE HATEFUL 8

In 2015, with The Hateful 8 Quentin Tarantino's eighth film was released. It was thought up a special treat for the screenings on the big screen, because the 70mm film shot was shown in selected cinemas as an extended Roadshow version. Like other movie classics from the 50s and 60s (for example, It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World), this version contained an overture, an intermission in the middle of the film and a few longer / additional scenes.



Through interviews, we Roadshow version was never evaluated on any home media. So we could only trust on observations of attentive moviegoers beside these official statements. Among the supposedly 6 minutes of pure additional material without the intermission / overture, there was clear to be e.g. a chicken pluck scene with Mexican Bob. In general, a few scenes are simply played out in more detail, with alternative material in use.



The big surprise was presented in march 2019, when 25th April 2019. First thing we can tell: Curiosly this is a further, even much longer version.



Instead of the Roadshow Version, the movie is split up in 4 episodes as mini-series, with a full length of about 210 minutes, while the actual additional material sums up to roughly 20 minutes. There are a few extended scenes from the Roadshow Version, but cinema visitors writing in e.g. the Blu-ray.com-forums agreed about completely new scenes added here. In episodes 2-4 the credits, a review and the intro are shown, so the complete length is bloated to a much longer runtime - but still there are really quite a few new scenes, so let's dive deeper into our comparisons.







Extended Version as a 4-part mini-series on Netflix US // Episode 1

The mini-series-version uses the same titles, like the chapters from the original theatrical version. However, several chapters were grouped together per episode and the transitions are set differently. E.g. Episode 2 uses the title of Chapter 3, but only starts about 10 minutes after the corresponding fade. All in all, a slightly different overall structure, which of course already results from the design as a mini-series anyway.



First we can state that only plot / dialogue extensions were added, the violent scenes show no differences. At least in the first half, small gaps in logic or simply open storylines are resolved more clearly. O.B.'s motivation for transporting the corpses of Marquis is one example, it is now explained by two new conversations in which a deal is agreed.



The much longer dialogue with Sandy, who uses the N-word about Marquis several times has to be highlighted. So the blowjob story he is telling for revenge later on, naturally get more power. Otherwise one can certainly argue or conversely understand why various scenes were deleted for the theatrical version. Additional characters like Michael Madsen as Joe or Mexican Bob now get more screentime.



The main scene that stands out in Episode 3 - Domerque's Got a Secret is the longer debate about Sandy not wanting to eat from the same table because of Marquis' skin color. Like mentioned before this is one of the most prominent additons in the Extended Version. Otherwise Bob is bullied more often and a strange audio adjustment is noticed. In Tarantino's off comment which is intended after the 15 minute intermission of the Roadshow Version, the word "chapter" ist completely removed.







Runtime information is according to the scheme: Theatrical Version Swiss Blu-ray / Episode 1 Netflix US Extended Comparison between the Theatrical Version (represented on the Swiss Blu-ray) and the Extended Version as mini-series in 4 parts on Netflix US- 28 Deviations, including 14x alternate footage- Difference: 1151.8 sec (= 19:12 min)Episode 1 (Last Stage to Red Rock): 46:02 min without credits / 50:23 min m. A.-> 8 deviations with a difference of 150.4 sec (= 2:30 min) without logos / creditsEpisode 2 (Minnie's Haberdashery): 47:20 min without credits / 51:41 min m. A.-> 8 deviations with a difference of 645.6 sec (= 10:46 min) without logos / review / creditsEpisode 4 (The Last Chapter): 52:29 min without credits / 56:45 min m. A.-> 6 deviations with a difference of 258.2 sec (= 4:18 min) without logos / review / creditsIn 2015, withQuentin Tarantino's eighth film was released. It was thought up a special treat for the screenings on the big screen, because the 70mm film shot was shown in selected cinemas as an extended Roadshow version. Like other movie classics from the 50s and 60s (for example,), this version contained an overture, an intermission in the middle of the film and a few longer / additional scenes.Through interviews, we vaguely labeled the additional scenes , but unfortunately thewas never evaluated on any home media. So we could only trust on observations of attentive moviegoers beside these official statements. Among thewithout the intermission / overture, there was clear to be e.g. a chicken pluck scene with Mexican Bob. In general, a few scenes are simply played out in more detail, with alternative material in use.The big surprise was presented in march 2019, when Netflix US promised a extended cut in their monthly newsletter. So most of us speculated we got to see the Roadshow version. This extended version was released only on Netflix US on the. First thing we can tell: Curiosly this is a further, even much longer version.Instead of the Roadshow Version, the movie is split up in 4 episodes as mini-series, with a full length of about 210 minutes, while the. There are a few extended scenes from the Roadshow Version, but cinema visitors writing in e.g. the Blu-ray.com-forums agreed about completely new scenes added here. In episodes 2-4 the credits, a review and the intro are shown, so the complete length is bloated to a much longer runtime - but still there are really quite a few new scenes, so let's dive deeper into our comparisons.The mini-series-version uses the same titles, like the chapters from the original theatrical version. However,and the transitions are set differently. E.g. Episode 2 uses the title of Chapter 3, but only starts about 10 minutes after the corresponding fade. All in all, a slightly different overall structure, which of course already results from the design as a mini-series anyway.First we can state that onlywere added, the violent scenes show no differences. At least in the first half, small gaps in logic or simply open storylines are resolved more clearly. O.B.'s motivation for transporting the corpses of Marquis is one example, it is now explained by two new conversations in which a deal is agreed.The much longer dialogue with Sandy, who uses the N-word about Marquis several times has to be highlighted. So the blowjob story he is telling for revenge later on, naturally get more power. Otherwise one can certainly argue or conversely understand why various scenes were deleted for the theatrical version. Additional characters like Michael Madsen as Joe or Mexican Bob now get more screentime.The main scene that stands out inis the longer debate about Sandy not wanting to eat from the same table because of Marquis' skin color. Like mentioned before this is one of the most prominent additons in the Extended Version. Otherwise Bob is bullied more often and a strange audio adjustment is noticed. In Tarantino's off comment which is intended after the 15 minute intermission of the Roadshow Version, the word "chapter" ist completely removed. Episode 3 - Domerque's Got a Secret



76:16 / 00:00-04:13



After the Weinstein logo Episode 3 repeats a part from the scene before. Then you get the long intro again and the insertion of the episode's title.

Not included in the differences duration.



253.8 sec (= 4:14 min)

After the Weinstein logo Episode 3 repeats a part from the scene before. Then you get the long intro again and the insertion of the episode's title.Not included in the differences duration.





Alternative

76:19-76:21 / 04:17-04:20



The Extended Version shows an additional short shot from inside. The Theatrical Version shows the next shot outside a bit sooner (without the appearing spot light)



Extended Version 1.5 sec longer



Theatrical Version Extended Netflix Mini-Series





76:30 / 04:29-04:38



Chris asks Sandy why he isn't sitting on the table with the other persons and the nasty N-word is mentioned again.



Chris: "Why you want to sit here by yourself? Everybody's sitting right over here. Just come have a little..."

Sandy: "Well, if you're hungry, go sit at the table."

Chris: "Well..."

Sandy: "And then you will be eating with a nigger."



9.1 sec

The Extended Version shows an additional short shot from inside. The Theatrical Version shows the next shot outside a bit sooner (without the appearing spot light)Chris asks Sandy why he isn't sitting on the table with the other persons and the nasty N-word is mentioned again.Chris: "Why you want to sit here by yourself? Everybody's sitting right over here. Just come have a little..."Sandy: "Well, if you're hungry, go sit at the table."Chris: "Well..."Sandy: "And then you will be eating with a nigger."



Sound modification



Following dialogue is only heard in the Extended Version over the next shot from the table.

Chris: "You ain't got to sit next to that nigger."

Sandy: "Judas was at the table."

Chris: "General, you ain't got to sit with that nigger. You can sit next to me."

Sandy: "I will never change my mind on this matter."

Chris: "Now, just come sit at the table, have a bowl of stew with us. Just a small bowl?"

Sandy: "No."

Chris: "One little, small bowl?"

Chris: "N-O!"





Alternative

76:49-76:55 / 04:58-06:09



The Theatrical Version shows Marquis' full frontal shot much longer.

Following dialogue is only heard in the Extended Version over the next shot from the table.Chris: "You ain't got to sit next to that nigger."Sandy: "Judas was at the table."Chris: "General, you ain't got to sit with that nigger. You can sit next to me."Sandy: "I will never change my mind on this matter."Chris: "Now, just come sit at the table, have a bowl of stew with us. Just a small bowl?"Sandy: "No."Chris: "One little, small bowl?"Chris: "N-O!"Theshows Marquis' full frontal shot much longer.

In the Extended Version Marquis also sits down on the table and listens to Sandy's excessive hate tirades from the background.



Chris: "General, you need to get some food in you. Please. I'll bring you a little, small bowl. I'll get you a cup of coffee."

Sandy: "I said no to you."

Chris: "Wouldn't it be nice to sit with a group of people?"

Sandy: "Sit with a nigger at the table and eat?"

Chris: "General Smithers, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to insist. Please."

Sandy: "Hey. What privilege do you never have? Touching an officer above you in rank. General, son."

Chris: "Well, can I bring you..."

Sandy: "Go eat your dinner with your nigger friend."

Marquis: "Amen."

Chris: "General, you ain't got to sit next to that nigger."

Sandy: "You must be toying with me, son."

Chris: "I'll bring you a blanket."

Sandy: "I got a blanket."

Chris: "You need to get some food in your stomach, General."

Warren: "You know, Bob..."

Sandy: "Do you think I, for a minute, that I want to go over and sit and eat? If old Minnie was here, she'd have made some cornbread."

Chris: "Please, just bring you a little bowl of stew over here to your chair."

Sandy: "No. Have you forgotten how to take an order, Captain? You are dismissed."

Chris: "Yes, sir. I still don't feel good about not getting you something to eat. Let me know if you change your mind."

In theMarquis also sits down on the table and listens to Sandy's excessive hate tirades from the background.Chris: "General, you need to get some food in you. Please. I'll bring you a little, small bowl. I'll get you a cup of coffee."Sandy: "I said no to you."Chris: "Wouldn't it be nice to sit with a group of people?"Sandy: "Sit with a nigger at the table and eat?"Chris: "General Smithers, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to insist. Please."Sandy: "Hey. What privilege do you never have? Touching an officer above you in rank. General, son."Chris: "Well, can I bring you..."Sandy: "Go eat your dinner with your nigger friend."Marquis: "Amen."Chris: "General, you ain't got to sit next to that nigger."Sandy: "You must be toying with me, son."Chris: "I'll bring you a blanket."Sandy: "I got a blanket."Chris: "You need to get some food in your stomach, General."Warren: "You know, Bob..."Sandy: "Do you think I, for a minute, that I want to go over and sit and eat? If old Minnie was here, she'd have made some cornbread."Chris: "Please, just bring you a little bowl of stew over here to your chair."Sandy: "No. Have you forgotten how to take an order, Captain? You are dismissed."Chris: "Yes, sir. I still don't feel good about not getting you something to eat. Let me know if you change your mind."

Extended Version 65.2 sec (= 1:05 min) longer







95:21-95:36 / 24:35



The title insertion for Chapter 4 is removed from the Extended Version. The title is placed for the whole Episode 3.



+ 15 sec







Soundtrack Modification

97:42-97:43 / 26:41



Two shots from Daisy were shortened for the Extended Version.

The reason can be found after that in the following off comment from Tarantino. The word "chapter" was removed out of the sentence: "That's why this chapter is called--"



+ 1.1 sec







Alternative

111:10-111:13 / 40:11-40:50



Before he stands up, Marquis argues a bit longer with the three guys. The Theatrical Version shows a different transition with an alternative shot of the men.

Before he stands up, Marquis argues a bit longer with the three guys. Theshows a different transition with an alternative shot of the men.

Marquis: "Now, why is The Hangman, who got nothing on his mind 'cept getting this gal to the gallows, brewing the coffee in Minnie's Haberdashery?"

Oswaldo: "Because his coffee was dreadful."

Marquis: "Is that right? Well, ain't that interesting."

Bob: "Well, you didn't have any of my coffee, bounty hunter, so don't be so sure about what this little man says."

Joe: "I had some of his coffee. Wasn't the best coffee I ever drank, but wasn't nothing wrong with it."

Bob: "Well, if you want me to make a pot of coffee, all you have to do is ask."

Marquis: "Maybe. Maybe."



With these last words in mind, the following words from Marquis in the Theatrical Version ("But it's the stew that's got me thinkin'") make more sense.

Marquis: "Now, why is The Hangman, who got nothing on his mind 'cept getting this gal to the gallows, brewing the coffee in Minnie's Haberdashery?"Oswaldo: "Because his coffee was dreadful."Marquis: "Is that right? Well, ain't that interesting."Bob: "Well, you didn't have any of my coffee, bounty hunter, so don't be so sure about what this little man says."Joe: "I had some of his coffee. Wasn't the best coffee I ever drank, but wasn't nothing wrong with it."Bob: "Well, if you want me to make a pot of coffee, all you have to do is ask."Marquis: "Maybe. Maybe."With these last words in mind, the following words from Marquis in the Theatrical Version ("But it's the stew that's got me thinkin'") make more sense.

Extended Version 37.8 sec longer







119:49 / 49:26-53:45



Additional final credits for Episode 3.

Not included in the average duration mentioned above.



259 sec (= 4:19 min) Additional final credits for Episode 3.Not included in the average duration mentioned above.