In a wide-ranging interview with Vanity Fair, Kanye West said he is “definitely” still thinking about running for president in 2020 — an idea he first floated at the Video Music Awards last month — and he elaborated on why he is considering entering politics.

“I sit in clubs and I’m like, Wow, I’ve got five years before I go and run for office and I’ve got a lot of research to do, I’ve got a lot of growing up to do,” West told Vanity Fair. He explained that his dad has two masters degrees and his late mother, who had her doctorate, worked for Operation PUSH, a civil rights organization started by Jesse Jackson.

“It’s fun. It’s fun to be a rock star, and I’ll never not be one I guess, but there’ll be a point where I become my mother’s child,” West said. “With all the things I’ve done that people would consider to be accomplishments, what’s the point where I become the person that Donda and Raymond West raised? My parents’ child.”