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Andrew Hyde owns only 15 things. And he knows what you’re thinking right now:

The first question is always “Do you do laundry? How many pairs of underwear?” I’ll never get a stranger’s obsession with my knickers, but that is *always* question #1. Question #2 is the “What do you own?” countdown, which is both fun and annoying to answer.

Here’s the secret. He doesn’t count underwear or socks, because he could “easily replace [them] and could not resell for any value.” (Also, how much stuff do you own, buddy? Yeah, that’s what I thought.) Hyde told author Scott Berkum what he’s learned from living minimally:

This whole experience has taught me something very simple: debt kills dreams. Debt is cash, things and fear … I don’t have much right now. 3 shirts, a pair of pants and shorts. Some odds and ends. I do some pretty interesting and amazing things everyday, and not once in the last month did I really want anything more … It has turned by life from stuff centric to relationship centric.

Oh, you want the list, right? Here’s one that Hyde posted back in May:

1. Arc’teryx Miura 30 backpack

2. NAU shirt

3. Mammut rain jacket

4. Arc’teryx tshirt

5. Patagonia running shorts

6. Quick Dry towel

7. NAU wool jacket

8. Toiletry kit

9. Smith sunglasses

10. Wallet

11. MacBook Air

12. iPhone 3GS

13. NAU dress shirt

14. Patagonia jeans

15. Running shoes

Hey, he said he was living light, he didn’t say he was cheap. If you only owned 15 things you’d probably want two of them to be a laptop and an iPhone, too.

See: Interview: Man who owns 15 things,

Scott Berkun