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Hero MemberActivity: 714Merit: 500Coin Generator Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! April 19, 2013, 03:36:03 PM #104 Quote from: John (John K.) on April 19, 2013, 03:28:46 PM I confirm that I have been asked to escrow this, and will generate an escrow contract (with the address) when I get my escrow laptop out from the safe in approx. 7 hours.



Ok sounds great! I would like it done this way:



1. When there's enough BTC in the pool people will send to JohnK's address. JohnK will hold my 1% until I start shipping the chips and providing people with tracking information.

2. JohnK will order the chips via Avalon

3. JohnK will put the shipping address to my location and provide me with tracking information.

4. I will ship the chips individually to contributors based on when they pledged their BTC. (You will be required for any additional individual shipping costs)

5. OPTIONAL - I have been looking into building the PCB boards for these chips and have contacted some local engineers about this and we are pretty sure that we can build one once Avalon releases their schematics. So if you want I can build for you at additional costs for the parts and labor. But this is just for future planning purposes. Nothing is set in stone yet. Ok sounds great! I would like it done this way:1. When there's enough BTC in the pool people will send to JohnK's address. JohnK will hold my 1% until I start shipping the chips and providing people with tracking information.2. JohnK will order the chips via Avalon3. JohnK will put the shipping address to my location and provide me with tracking information.4. I will ship the chips individually to contributors based on when they pledged their BTC. (You will be required for any additional individual shipping costs)5. OPTIONAL - I have been looking into building the PCB boards for these chips and have contacted some local engineers about this and we are pretty sure that we can build one once Avalon releases their schematics. So if you want I can build for you at additional costs for the parts and labor. But this is just for future planning purposes. Nothing is set in stone yet.

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Hero MemberActivity: 714Merit: 500Coin Generator Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! April 19, 2013, 07:56:12 PM #110 Here's the updated fees guys:



The total before fees is 782.1 BTC



JohnK's fee: 1.5% or 11.7315 BTC

My fee: 1.0% or 7.821 BTC



- I also added another column in the spread sheet: BTC Need to send to Escrow.



Obviously in this column, it is the exact amount in which you need to send to JohnK.



My fee: 1.0% or 7.821 BTC will also be sent to Escrow's address and will stay there until I start shipping and giving out tracking info!

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Global Troll-buster andLegendaryActivity: 1288Merit: 1142Will read PM's. Have more time lately Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! April 19, 2013, 09:33:31 PM #114





-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Hash: SHA1



The escrow address for ragingazn628's group buy transaction for Avalon ASICs chips would be:



1At75rKd6e8b7S7AAPzZ5V3kAzhkGYhnpU



Please state and agree to the conditions (if item is received damaged, item lost with tracking, customs fee etc) beforehand.



If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a statement of condition.



The fine print:

This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.

The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of. On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.

The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.



Thank you.



John (the escrow holder)

20 April 2013

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-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Escrow contract: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xtx4M6nN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----Hash: SHA1The escrow address for ragingazn628's group buy transaction for Avalon ASICs chips would be:1At75rKd6e8b7S7AAPzZ5V3kAzhkGYhnpUPlease state and agree to the conditions (if item is received damaged, item lost with tracking, customs fee etc) beforehand.If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a statement of condition.The fine print:This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of. On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.Thank you.John (the escrow holder)20 April 2013-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32)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riqA-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- My BTC Tip Jar: 1Pgvfy19uwtYe5o9dg3zZsAjgCPt3XZqz9 , GPG ID: B3AAEEB0 ,OTC ID: johnthedong

Escrow service is available on a case by case basis! (PM Me to verify I'm the escrow!)



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Global Troll-buster andLegendaryActivity: 1288Merit: 1142Will read PM's. Have more time lately Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! April 19, 2013, 10:47:51 PM #118 Quote from: fpgaminer on April 19, 2013, 09:50:42 PM John, thank you for taking the time to facilatate these transactions. A few questions, if you wouldn't mind:



1) Is that contract binding between you and ragingazn628, or is it binding between you and all parties participating in this group buy (Group Buyers)?

2) What will you do if ragingazn628 keeps the chips for himself?

3) Do I understand correctly that we (the group buyers) will deliver the full payment to you (John), including ragingazn628's 1% fee, and you will hold that 1% fee in escrow?

4) Have you done anything to verify ragingazn628's identity and destination shipping address?





I mean this with no disrespect to ragingazn628 or yourself; just trying to keep everything detailed and clear.



1) It would be binding with all parties involved up to when I submit the order (and the funds) to Avalon. Afterwards, it would be between the buyers and ragingazn628.



2) I would provide all information that I have in hand for this transaction to the public, and probably assist in any litigation/legal enforcement efforts.



3) Yes. I will forward the funds to Avalon when the preorder opens, and keep ragingazn628's fee in escrow.



4) No, so far. I would be willing to hold his identity in escrow if he allows this.





As for the contract, please use the paste bin link, and CTRL-A CTRL-V it to notepad to verify it. The forum has spacing bugs which will invalidate the signature. 1) It would be binding with all parties involved up to when I submit the order (and the funds) to Avalon. Afterwards, it would be between the buyers and ragingazn628.2) I would provide all information that I have in hand for this transaction to the public, and probably assist in any litigation/legal enforcement efforts.3) Yes. I will forward the funds to Avalon when the preorder opens, and keep ragingazn628's fee in escrow.4) No, so far. I would be willing to hold his identity in escrow if he allows this.As for the contract, please use the paste bin link, and CTRL-A CTRL-V it to notepad to verify it. The forum has spacing bugs which will invalidate the signature. My BTC Tip Jar: 1Pgvfy19uwtYe5o9dg3zZsAjgCPt3XZqz9 , GPG ID: B3AAEEB0 ,OTC ID: johnthedong

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Hero MemberActivity: 560Merit: 505 Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! April 19, 2013, 11:18:16 PM #119



Quote 4) No, so far. I would be willing to hold his identity in escrow if he allows this. Personally, this would make me feel a little better. ~8BTC of collateral isn't much.



Quote 1) It would be binding with all parties involved up to when I submit the order (and the funds) to Avalon. Afterwards, it would be between the buyers and ragingazn628. I believe it would need to remain binding on you, since you will be holding a portion of BTC in escrow.



So, to complete our participation in this group buy, each group buyer should:



1) Send BTC to the address John specified.

2) Reply (or PM?) stating the amount paid, expected number of chips, and preferably signed with (one of) the sending addresses.



Is that correct? Shall we wait for confirmation by ragingazn628 to the agreement thus far before proceeding?



Thank you again.



Quote As for the contract, please use the paste bin link, and CTRL-A CTRL-V it to notepad to verify it. The forum has spacing bugs which will invalidate the signature. Oddly enough, I downloaded the file for that very reason, and got the bad sig. After going to pastebin and copy-pasting it from there, instead of downloading, I got a good sig:



Code: $ gpg --verify asic.txt

gpg: WARNING: using insecure memory!

gpg: please see http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/faqs.html for more information

gpg: Signature made Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:28:16 PM PDT using RSA key ID B3AAEEB0

gpg: Good signature from "John Koh (johnthedong@bitcointalk) <the.john.is.here@gmail.com>"

gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!

gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.

Primary key fingerprint: 42B6 DC51 3D9D FDEC 4C28 7CD7 8353 E637 B3AA EEB0

Thank you for the responses, John, I appreciate it!Personally, this would make me feel a little better. ~8BTC of collateral isn't much.I believe it would need to remain binding on you, since you will be holding a portion of BTC in escrow.So, to complete our participation in this group buy, each group buyer should:1) Send BTC to the address John specified.2) Reply (or PM?) stating the amount paid, expected number of chips, and preferably signed with (one of) the sending addresses.Is that correct? Shall we wait for confirmation by ragingazn628 to the agreement thus far before proceeding?Thank you again.Oddly enough, I downloaded the file for that very reason, and got the bad sig. After going to pastebin and copy-pasting it from there, instead of downloading, I got a good sig: https://github.com/fpgaminer/Open-Source-FPGA-Bitcoin-Miner | Bitcoin Hardware Wallet



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