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on thread titled, "Is Tracey Author of "Patricia Letters?"



October 21, 2006, 3:11 am, Sat Oct 21 3:11:23 CDT 2006

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Dim, I can't say I think that Tracey authored the Patricia letters but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that he knows who did author them. You know he kept saying "they" (not sure who THEY are) couldn't trace them because the anonymous e-mailer used but just reference this e-mail below that was written by Jim Tipton to Cheesy where he explains what e-mail address was used to sent him the picture to put be on the find-a-grave site.



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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:24:17 -0600

To: "Cheesy aka Patti"

From: Jim Tipton

Subject: Re: me again....



"So, kind sir, if you would answer these questions, I would be eternally grateful ( I thought that was an appropriate term to use ....eternally...get it?)"



um...yes, i get it...and i dont' much mind if you ARE a cop...at his point, i'm ready to turn the whole thing over to the FBI/Boulder Police, just in case this person is involved...



"Where the photos cropped by you?"



I honestly can't remember, but i bet they were...i crop probably 95% of all photos that are sent to me...throwing away the originals...so, yes, i imagine they were cropped by me...



"Were there any other photos sent to you that you did not post on the site?"



again...from a fuzzy recollection, i believe i posted all of the photos the person sent me...as noted before, she/he had VERY specific details about what captions went with what photos...and then after i posted them, she/he thought something was wrong, but it turned out it was just their monitor or something and then they thanked me for the 'beautiful' job i did in posting the photos...i posted all of the 'captions' as they were sent to me and i believe i posted all of the photos as well...



"do you recall when these photos were sent to you?"



Late october of 98...7 PM MST on October 29, 1998 to be specific...from the email: ramsey080690@hotmail.com The address: ramsey@nym.alias.net was also signed at the bottom of the message...



"Thank you so much, if I happen to become rich and famous over this, I will be sure to plug your website every chance I get."



I would hope so!



thanks agnd good luck,

jim



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The person who sent the pics to the find-a-grave site used email addy "ramsey080690@hotmail.com" and I would bet Bob's left nut that hotmail account is still being used as of today !!



So, the Ramsey super detectives and Michael Tracey couldn't trace the Patricia letter e-mails, eh? Well, then why didn't they just go back to the origianl hotmail account that sent the photos in to begin with? It shouldn't be that hard to issue a warrant for a hotmail acount considering John Ramsey stated in his book that he thinks this might be the killer of his daughter.



Why? Because they probably already know who it is.



Below are the three captions the photo sender wanted on the site as described above in Jim Tipton's e-mail. I copied these back in May 1999 and even though it shows the anonymous "ramsey@nym.alias.net" e-mail addy on the find-a-grave web site back then, THAT was not the e-mail addy that was used to send the pics to the site.



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ramseyjonbenet.jpg

This picture appears courtesy of: A Friend of the Ramseys (ramsey@nym.alias.net)

"JonBenet Patricia Ramsey, (August 6th, 1990 - December 25th, 1996), is buried in St. Jamesí Episcopal Cemetery. The cemetery is enclosed by a tall, iron fence that is said to be locked after 6 p.m. daily. She is the daughter of John Bennett Ramsey and Patricia Paugh Ramsey. Her parents reside, close-by, in the Vinings area of Marietta/Atlanta. Her grandparents live in Roswell"



ramseyjonbenet2.jpg

This picture appears courtesy of: A Friend of the Ramseys (ramsey@nym.alias.net)

"JonBenet is buried beneath a sprawling dogwood tree that has been adorned by small angel figurines. A small cement bench is located beside her grave. In this photograph, her grave is covered with flowers. Her half-sisterís grave is beside her, to the right"



ramseyjonbenet3.jpg

This picture appears courtesy of: A Friend of the Ramseys (ramsey@nym.alias.net)

"JonBenet's grave is covered with a thick marble slab. Her epitaph is written here"



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October 21, 2006, 6:09 pm, Sat Oct 21 18:09:27 CDT 2006

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I don't know Niner, maybe it got zapped because it was on the wrong thread. Anyway here are the links:



Main page:

http://www.acandyrose.com/patricia1999phenomenon.htm

Cheesy's Collection:

http://jbr_subculture.tripod.com/CheesyCollection1999.htm

Gsquared's Collection:

http://jonbenet_ramsey.tripod.com/GsquaredCollection1999.htm



I spent a little time last night going back and reading a few of them again. Two of the e-mails in particular clearly show me that it was not Patsy Ramsey writing them.



One of them, the last one, dated Thursday, November 11, 1999 has a section as follows,



"I need to talk to my husband about this before I meet with anyone and discuss this matter in front of him. I have not told him about this man. Our wedding anniversary is just days away - it would be the worse time to bring something of this magnitude up now."



Patsy and John were married on November 5, 1980 and that date had already passed when that last e-mail was sent.



The e-mail of May 4, 1999 from ramsey@nym.alias.net is rather long with a full detailed description of landmarks in Atlanta, obviously to prove they are Patsy and really in Atlanta. I will include it below but an important note is that within those long detailed instructions is the following:



"There are real estate buildings everywhere on Roswell Road. There is a brand new post office with poor service off Roswell Road. You can turn right off Roswell Road, right after Happy Gas, and get to Northside Hospital. There is a great ski shop on that road. Right at the I-285 and Roswell Road intersection, there is a tall building about 11 stories tall with a sign that reads "Newberger/Andes".



In my opinion, the original writer of the Patricia letters, if Patsy, zipped right on past mentioning that Northside Hospital was where JonBenet was born and never seem to bat any eye, never made comment, considering the letter writer was SO INTO making this memorial dedication on the find-a-grave site to start with and detailed in other letters their love for JonBenet and how much they missed her over and over again. I can't believe that if it was Patsy who actually wrote the original letters that she would not have stopped within her detail instructions to comment that Northside hospital was were JonBenet was born.



Here's that e-mail:



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Date: 4 May 1999 02:46:18 -0000

From: Ramsey



Patti,



I am not that great with street names but I will try to give you a picture of the Atlanta area as best I can. I think you will be convinced that I live here. Please read this carefully?



I will proceed to take you up Roswell Road. To get to Roswell Rd. and Northridge Road, I have to get on I-285 and travel to the Sandy Springs / Roswell Road exit #17. I sometimes exit at Powers Ferry Landing and go up Powers Ferry Road and take a left on Mt Paran until it dead ends into Roswell Road. There is a realty business dead ahead. It used to be a residential house. I can then take a left to go toward Roswell or right to go to Buckhead and downtown. If I turn left on Roswell, there was once a Chi Chi's Mexican restaurant on the left on Roswell Road. It is not called that now. I can't recall it's name now. There are real estate buildings everywhere on Roswell Road. There is a brand new post office with poor service off Roswell Road. You can turn right off Roswell Road, right after Happy Gas, and get to Northside Hospital. There is a great ski shop on that road. Right at the I-285 and Roswell Road intersection, there is a tall building about 11 stories tall with a sign that reads "Newberger/Andes". They are commercial developers. Across the road, there is a tall real estate building. It is white in color. There are a smattering of night spots on both sides of the road on Roswell, just above I-285. Up from there, K-Mart is on the left. Just past K-Mart, at the intersection, there is a Burger King on the left and a service station just across that. One road that crosses Roswell Road, at this point, is Hammond Drive. There is a park called Hammond park and you can take that road as a shortcut to Perimeter Mall, another great place to shop). The alternate route to Perimeter Mall is on I-285, exit 21 Ashford/Dunwoody Road. Up Roswell Road, on the left, there is a Starbuck's with great coffee. Roswell Road is really not my immediate area but I know more about it than I thought I did.



My family and I often shop at Cumberland Mall. Oh, I can't forget to mention the beautiful Galleria Mall. It is close to Cumberland. Cumberland Mall is located on hwy 19/41. It is easy to access from Marietta. Sometimes, I feel like going to Buckhead. When I do, I shop at Lenox Square. It has changed so much since I lived here before. The Marta train has a station right behind Lenox Square Mall.



When I am in that area, I can take the Georgia 400 to Roswell (the city). If I exit to I-285, I can exit off on the Sandy Springs exit to get on Roswell Road. While on GA 400, if I exit before I-285, on Lenox Road, I don't have to pay a toll. It is a toll road, you know. I might visit the Paugh residence if I go up GA 400 to Roswell (the city). It is easy to get to, since they live down and to the left of Roswell High School. Brookfield West is a nice neighborhood.



Tower Place is in Buckhead. It has scattered shops at its base, where I like to eat. Tower Place is a tall building across from the Kroger store. When I lived here before, there was a night spot across the road called, "The Lime Light". It has been gone for years. Your Jameson person would not know that.



When I am on Roswell road, coming from Buckhead and entering into Sandy Springs, to get to I-75, which leads to Marietta and to I-285, I take a shortcut through a winding road called Mount Paran Road. At the end of this road is the Mount Paran Church of God. Haven't you ever heard of Mylon Lefevre (mispelled that name)? I can take a right here and go back to Cumberland Mall. I can keep going up 19/41 and I am in Marietta, passing the Big Chicken. What is the Big Chicken? It is a landmark in Marietta. It is a huge chicken with a beack that opens and closes; a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant.



Oh yeah, I-285 is a circle around the city. Here in Atlanta, we call this "the perimeter". You either live inside the perimeter or outside the perimeter. Roswell is a city and also a road. The city of Roswell is reached fastest by GA 400, depending on where you are located.



I can go on and on because I live in Atlanta. I have left here and returned. I can remember things that were here before. There has been a lot of development since I was here before. Atlanta is a great place to live.



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Also, this letter writer talks about this mysterious stranger who she claims began writing her at that same anonymous e-mail address a year before Cheesy began writing. The letter writer says this mysterious stranger stated to her that he visited the grave often, quotes his undying love for JonBenet and she quotes things he has said to her in e-mails. It is kind of chilling because some of those quotes do sound very much like the mysterious grave stranger was John Mark Karr.



Anyway, that's my wisdom for today. :-)

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