Oh you mean the feminists who are actively pushing against legislation that directly erases women’s rights?

Legislation such as?

However, before you answer, I’m adding an extra rule. You’re specifically attacking trans activists; therefore, you must bring an example of legislation that directly erases women’s rights AND is promoted by trans activists.

For example, if you bring legislation that does erase women’s rights; but is promoted by anti-trans conservatives, and not by pro-trans activists? Then your answer will be ignored.



You mean the legislation that gets rid of sex based protections for women in favor of gender identity laws that allow biological men and boys into spaces where women are vulnerable? Oh those rights.



Let’s pretend that trans women are freely allowed into women’s spaces. What’s the risk of a cis man disguising himself as a trans woman, entering those women’s spaces, and assaulting the women there?



First, we need a cis man. ( So this excludes women, trans people, and non-binary people .)



.) He wants to invade women’s spaces specifically to prey on the women inside. Therefore, he’s a pretty big misogynist. ( This excludes non-sexist men .)

.) His plan for doing so is to disguise himself as a trans woman. His plan also damages trans women, because it fuels the stereotype of “trans women are sexual predators”. So it’s clear that our man is also a transphobe. ( This excludes non-transphobic men .)

.) But he can’t simply wake up one day and say “I’m a trans woman”, because that’s pretty unlikely - especially coming from someone who, up until then, was clearly misogynist and transphobic. So, he’ll have to fake it for literally YEARS. ( This excudes all men who will give up mid-way through, or who don’t even bother trying it in the first place .)

.) And remember: he must pretend that he’s 1) trans and 2) a woman. Two things he hates , because he’s both sexist and transphobic.

, because he’s both sexist and transphobic. On top of that, he can’t tell his friends the truth, because he would risk being busted. Since our man is a mysogynistic transphobe, it’s pretty safe to assume that his friends are also transphobic misogynists. They will turn on our man; our man will have to endure all of this, if he wants to successfully pass as a trans woman. (This excludes all men who will give up mid-way through.)

So that already excludes a giant amount of men.



But let’s assume that our man belongs to the lucky tiny minority, and manages to go through all those hurdles without quitting. Now he’s inside a women’s space! He can harass and assault the other women inside!

And get kicked out because of it.

See, there is no rule that says “women can freely harass and assault other women”. If a woman harass another woman, the first one can get kicked out of the group.

So, basically, this plan of “I, a cis man, will disguise myself as a trans woman and invade women’s spaces; then I’ll be free to prey on the women there” is a plan that almost no cis man would consider. Even if I was sexist and transphobic enough to try this plan…

It’s slow as hell. It takes years.

It causes me a lot of troubles, including “I have to disguise myself as something I absolutely hate” and “my sexist and transphobic friends will turn on me”.

Even if I successfully enter a women’s space, that STILL doesn’t allow me to harass women with impunity.



There’s been plenty of radical feminists who criticize other radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.

Halt. We have a problem.

See, radical feminists can be divided into two pretty big groups: “trans-inclusionary” (believe that trans women are women, and accept them in their feminist spaces) and “trans-exclusionary” (believe that trans women are men, and refuse them in their feminist spaces). There were some pretty big fight in the past between the two, so - since we’re talking about radical feminists and trans people - we can’t conflate the two.

On top of that, trans-exclusionary radical feminists love to use “radical feminist” as a synonym of “trans-exclusonary radical feminist”. Which adds to the confusion.

So, what are YOU saying?

There’s been plenty of radical feminists who criticize other radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.

There’s been plenty of radical feminists who criticize trans-inclusionary radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.

There’s been plenty of radical feminists who criticize trans-exclusionary radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.



There’s been plenty of trans-inclusionary radical feminists who criticize other radfems (trans-inclusionary and trans-exclusionary alike) for using conservative platforms to speak.

There’s been plenty of trans-inclusionary radical feminists who criticize other trans-inclusionary radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.

There’s been plenty of trans-inclusionary radical feminists who criticize trans-exclusionary radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.



There’s been plenty of trans-exclusionary radical feminists who criticize other radfems (trans-inclusionary and trans-exclusionary alike) for using conservative platforms to speak.

There’s been plenty of trans-exclusionary radical feminists who criticize trans-inclusionary radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.

There’s been plenty of trans-exclusionary radical feminists who criticize other trans-exclusionary radfems for using conservative platforms to speak.



The reason radfems…

Yeah, no, I must end it right here. You’re too confusing.

Until you specify exactly what kind of “radfem” you’re talking about, I must ignore these parts.



How about all the rapist, racist, Nazi, pedophile, murderers that belong to your community? What about all of the trans activists who actively promote rape rhetoric, misogyny and homophobia like Riley Dennis, Drew Deveaux, Zinnia Jones, Eli Erlick, Morgane Oger, Char the butcher?



See? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. You claim that these people are rapists / racists / Nazis / pedophiles / murderers / misogynists / homophobes, but you don’t actually bring any evidence.



What about all the trans women who have murdered or raped women/girls and are allowed in female prisons? Is that something you advocate for?



What about all the cis women who have murdered or raped women/girs, and who are allowed in female prisons?

