tigerstripedmoon:

tigerstripedmoon:

the-kiwi-is-not-a-pewee: itsclydebitches: itsclydebitches: Post “As Above, So Below” I’m thinking the same thing. I mean, all that talk of secrets, what Ozpin did, what Ironwood wants from Ozpin, and no one (still!) has made an attempt to talk to him. They’re all acting like Ozpin is dead rather than hanging out watching this all unfold—something else they are fully aware of after the airship crash. It’s literally like if someone was sitting in the room with you and everyone just kept talking as if you’re not there. Yeah. That’s really going to help with the self-confidence issues. The fandom keeps crucifying Ozpin for not coming back, but he left precisely because he was told he wasn’t wanted. That everyone would be better off without him. Now he’s seeing that acted out on a day-to-day basis. They know I’m here and not a single person has chosen to acknowledge me. James doesn’t want me, he wants my advice… and RWBYJNR made it clear in the snow that I’m incapable of making any decisions that don’t hurt more than they help. So why would I come back when I have nothing to offer and clearly no one wants me here? Ignoring for a moment the issue with comparing a 1,000+ year old man to a child, if you scream at that child until they’re crying on their knees, punch them into a tree, and then tell them they’re the worst thing that ever happened to you… it’s not the child’s responsibility to come out and start the reconciliation process. “I don’t want to talk to you” is not comparable to “They verbally and physically made it clear that they don’t want to talk to me.” Right now Ozpin has no reason to think—or risk—that he won’t simply get attacked again if he were to return and the group’s refusal to even acknowledge his existence only reinforces that assumption. The wording of the comment implies that they tried or spent some time trying to get him to come out. Except they didn’t. There is not one scene where they attempted to reach out to him, so azdfox’s point falls flat on its face. azdfox is a troll who gets off on being an asshole to anyone who dares think anything nice about Ozpin. It’s best to just block and ignore as, again, troll. That said, who in their right mind would go back to a potentially violent and/or tenuous situation when it’s already become violent for an innocent bystander? Do remember the events of v6, where Qrow punched Ozpin and by extension Oscar, and Jaune throwing hands with a child- Ozpin isn’t going to come back if there’s a chance his presence is going to get Oscar hurt. (And istg if anyone says it’s only because Oscar’s his host, I will punch you in the gonads.)

Actually, I’m going to add on to this because this comment is excellent.

I wouldn’t go so far as infantilization, but he’s very much portrayed as having power forcibly and violently stripped from him. Which is bad enough.

The rest is spot on. We see him have his most intimate memories violated and put on display, forced to relive his death and the deaths of his children, denigrated while in absolute despair over these things, and then physically assaulted by the person he was closest to.

(Do they deserve to know Salem is immortal? Qrow and the Ozluminati, definitely. The kids, debatable. Did any of them have the right to know the rest? Fuck no.)

There’s a quote from the Banana Fish manga that, paraphrased, says ‘Forcing someone to relive memories they do not want to is an act of violence.’ And it is. I’ve seen people compare it to mindrape and honestly? It’s not wrong. The idea of stealing painful memories and forcing people to relive them has been used as a rape allegory in sci-fi for decades (hell, they based an entire Star Trek: The Next Generation episode around that exact premise and they didn’t pull punches about what the act was).

Even if you don’t go that far, it’s still cruel. It’s still emotionally and physically abusive. And Miles and Kerry and the rest of the writers do not give a fuck that they wrote their protagonists to be so horribly abusive, because they think QRWBYJNR can do no wrong.

I mean, look at the latest episode. They finally told Ironwood the truth, gaslighted him, and they’re laughing and being cutesy about it because they’re the protagonists! They won’t get into trouble! :D

… I’m so tired.