

toby

Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13

Seattle, WA toby Member Canada too? T-Mobile shows Canada on their maps too, strange.



CCNnorthcali

join:2004-03-07

San Francisco, CA CCNnorthcali Member Re: Canada too? And Mexico! Must be a map that includes roaming.



Eagles1221

join:2009-04-29

Vincentown, NJ Eagles1221 to toby

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Funny how the state of NY is totally red and I can't get any Tmo at my house, and 20 miles away I get Edge



toby

Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13

Seattle, WA toby Member Re: Canada too?



I mean #unwrong #uncarrier #notmature



Ask the T-Mobile CEO and the fanboys, they'll tell you that you're wrong!!!I mean #unwrong #uncarrier #notmature

silbaco

Premium Member

join:2009-08-03

USA 1 edit silbaco to Eagles1221

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The map says Northern Iowa and Eastern Iowa are also completely covered despite TMobile not having any service in the state outside the Central Iowa Des Moines market. Their affiliate iWireless has blazing gprs though.

chris92

join:2008-09-20

Coal Valley, IL chris92 Member Re: Canada too? iWireless has HSPA+ coverage in these areas. I have not heard of any plans for LTE coverage (yet). Even though its technically 4G, propagation and speeds are pretty awful, nonetheless.

silbaco

Premium Member

join:2009-08-03

USA silbaco Premium Member Re: Canada too? iWireless' own coverage map doesn't say they do.



amarryat

Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02

Marshfield, MA amarryat Member Re: Canada too? We were in Iowa City this past fall. My T-Mobile phone had 4G. It didn't seem fast though. And it did not say that it was roaming.



Edit - it was "4G", not LTE.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17

Carlisle, PA itguy05 to Eagles1221

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quote: Funny how the state of NY is totally red and I can't get any Tmo at my house, and 20 miles away I get Edge You must be looking at a different map than me....







Lots of non red areas in NY State. The darker red is roaming on T-mobile. You must be looking at a different map than me....

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04

Binghamton, NY Crookshanks Member Re: Canada too?



Mostly all 4G coverage, with some gaps filled in with 3G. T-Mobile is mostly EDGE outside of the cities, not something reflected on the map you linked. And then there's this.Mostly all 4G coverage, with some gaps filled in with 3G. T-Mobile is mostly EDGE outside of the cities, not something reflected on the map you linked.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17

Carlisle, PA itguy05 Member Re: Canada too? quote: Mostly all 4G coverage, with some gaps filled in with 3G. T-Mobile is mostly EDGE outside of the cities, not something reflected on the map you linked. Yeah - T-mo has a lot of gaps to fill in. Could never argue otherwise. And they also have a lot of upgrading to do because of many, many years of neglect of the network.



In my neck of the woods, we (Carlisle, PA) are a major shipping hub for the Northeast and there's a fair amount of government stuff around here too. Yet we are EDGE. Go 5 miles up the road and it's 3G/LTE. Hopefully they will build that out down here.



I've been testing out T-Mo (using prepaid and a $49 smartphone) around here and the coverage is pretty good. Sometimes there is low signal strength but you can still make a call. I've live in an area that shows no service (yet is surrounded by service) and we get 3-5 bars in the house. Not as solid as Verizon or AT&T but if it will work for us, the savings ($600/yr) would be well worth it! Still have till June to decide so I'll be watching very closely. Yeah - T-mo has a lot of gaps to fill in. Could never argue otherwise. And they also have a lot of upgrading to do because of many, many years of neglect of the network.In my neck of the woods, we (Carlisle, PA) are a major shipping hub for the Northeast and there's a fair amount of government stuff around here too. Yet we are EDGE. Go 5 miles up the road and it's 3G/LTE. Hopefully they will build that out down here.I've been testing out T-Mo (using prepaid and a $49 smartphone) around here and the coverage is pretty good. Sometimes there is low signal strength but you can still make a call. I've live in an area that shows no service (yet is surrounded by service) and we get 3-5 bars in the house. Not as solid as Verizon or AT&T but if it will work for us, the savings ($600/yr) would be well worth it! Still have till June to decide so I'll be watching very closely.

yyzlhr

join:2012-09-03

Scarborough, ON yyzlhr Member What a waste. T-Mobile should really spend their money accelerating their network improvements instead of wasting it on this type of silly litigation. Also T-Mobile's maps are not entirely accurate themselves either. A lot of rural areas are marked as excellent when in reality there's absolutely no coverage at all.

openbox9

Premium Member

join:2004-01-26

71144 openbox9 Premium Member Re: What a waste. said by yyzlhr: T-Mobile should really spend their money accelerating their network improvements instead of wasting it on this type of silly litigation. A great "un-carrier" move, huh?

rradina

join:2000-08-08

Chesterfield, MO rradina to yyzlhr

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Corporations generally have "staff" lawyers. It costs TMO almost nothing to file a lawsuit.

yyzlhr

join:2012-09-03

Scarborough, ON yyzlhr Member Re: What a waste. There's an opportunity cost. Their in house resources could be put to something more useful.

Gami00

join:2010-03-11

Mississauga, ON Gami00 Member Re: What a waste. they either sue someone or something, or are defending the company from the same tactics.



it's all "useful" in the end.



JakCrow

join:2001-12-06

Palo Alto, CA JakCrow to yyzlhr

Member to yyzlhr

Right. Get those lawyers out in the field to install new towers. Damn slackers.

JackBauer

join:2006-08-24

Schenectady, NY JackBauer to rradina

Member to rradina

Yes and no.



They have staff lawyers but guess what:



1) They may not have lawyers with trial expertise, just general contract law, etc...

2) They staff for work load. These lawsuits likely take a lot of time that they weren't expending hours on say a year ago.



So it is highly likely they supplement for both the above and other reasons, with outside counsel.



I work for a MUCH larger company than T-Mobile, and our legal team within my business segment uses outside counsel all the time. (For patent filings, lawsuits, etc...)

rradina

join:2000-08-08

Chesterfield, MO rradina Member Re: What a waste. Do these things ever go to trial? Generally it's a conversation starter between the corporations or it makes press headlines (like what this thread is discussing.) If it gets serious, they'll get outside counsel.



JakCrow

join:2001-12-06

Palo Alto, CA JakCrow to yyzlhr

Member to yyzlhr

Since when has a large company been unable to do both?



Zenit

The system is the solution

Premium Member

join:2012-05-07

Purcellville, VA Zenit Premium Member Its Happening This plan is already in progress, I am seeing less and less EDGE, and more HSDPA on my ex-AT&T iPhone 4 and Motorola Atrix.



If T-Mobile is really serious about replacing every single EDGE tower with more modern equipment, this really takes care of a lot of their issues. No more dial-up speed towers, and father signal range.



I can see how some people will immediately comment and state how terrible T-Mobile is. Well, if it doesn't work for you, in your specific locality,your free to continue paying AT&T or VZ. Hey, the lower prices T-Mobile introduced may actually help you out and lower your T or VZ bill!



Hey, once they start turning a profit, perhaps they will begin network expansion into new territories.



As for T-Mobile being "late to the game" this is true, but D-Telekom was putting TMUS on its deathbed for a quick sale that never happened, holding back progress by a good 7 years. The next 7 years are looking good.



Around here, rural coverage is passable. EDGE along major highways and roads. Sometimes random LTE/HSDPA on towers where the EDGE equipment died.

WhatNow

Premium Member

join:2009-05-06

Charlotte, NC WhatNow Premium Member map I noticed out of the 4 maps in the commercial that is only flashed up for a few seconds the other 3 companies would not have much coverage if you combined all there maps. Even the AT&T map does not look much better then T-Mobile. Are they still using the maps from 2 years ago.



I work in an area of small towns and farms covering 3 large counties and in the last year in many places where I one or no bars on Edge I now have 3 bars on 4G or LTE. AT&T may still be in 2nd place on coverage but it is getting to the point it does not make much difference.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17

Carlisle, PA itguy05 Member BS Been a fan of T-Mobile and this suit is BS. Verizon said 4G LTE and the maps are accurate. Tmo got called out and it's a BS lawsuit.



Mr Guy

@charter.com Mr Guy Anon 96 percent my ass 230 out of 315 million is not 96%. Hell you've got to drive 40 miles to hit a T-Mobile tower in my area and It' not like I live in Idaho or something.



RichInCT

@comcast.net RichInCT Anon Coverage Maps are Jokes All the carriers show coverage at my house and I can't make a call with ANY of them. If it weren't for my MicoCell I'd be SOL.

tkdslr

join:2004-04-24

Pompano Beach, FL tkdslr Member Re: Coverage Maps are Jokes I bet your house has either chicken wire stucco exterior walls and/or metal framed walls.



Both of those common construction techniques block both WiFi, and cell signals. Your best bet, find a place in the house near a window where you get reception. Then buy a Blue tooth link to cell wireless phone(Panasonic, etc), set it up near the same location. Set your chargers up in same location..



Note: I use Xlink gateway products for a wired link to cell connection..



When one of your cell phones rings.. it rings the cordless phones. No need to carry your cell phone around the house and deal with poor signal levels. With these setups you can add talking caller id(very useful).



ArrayList

DevOps

Premium Member

join:2005-03-19

Mullica Hill, NJ ArrayList to RichInCT

Premium Member to RichInCT

you live in a Faraday cage?



jchambers28

Premium Member

join:2007-05-12

Alma, AR jchambers28 Premium Member step in the right direction If this is true this is a step in the right direction. Hopefully They will deploy LTE here in Arkansas and fix there 1% coverage.



Mr Guy

@charter.com Mr Guy Anon Re: step in the right direction If don't already have access to T-Mobile don't expect it. T-Mobile has no plans to actually expand coverage. And this is why they will always be a distant 3rd at best. You can't ignore 100 million people can call yourself a "nationwide" carrier.



jchambers28

Premium Member

join:2007-05-12

Alma, AR jchambers28 Premium Member Re: step in the right direction The coverage here is EDGE.



Mr Guy

@charter.com Mr Guy Anon Re: step in the right direction Well where I live which is east of you by couple hundreds miles or so we don't even get that. There a big hole the size of NJ with absolutely ZERO coverage.



TestBoy

Premium Member

join:2009-10-13

Irmo, SC TestBoy Premium Member AT&T tried and lost too... Verizon says LTE.... and yeah.. it looks right to me.



Sorry but I have to call BS on the T-Mobile attack...

AT&T did try this.... they lost.

T-Mobile wants their HSPA to count as LTE....not going to work.



I think T-Mobile announcing that they are FINALLY IN 2014 going to get rid of EDGE.... great!



But the lawsuit?

Meh.....



cybah

join:2000-03-09

MA cybah Member annnnd as I sit here in my house, at my computer.. 3 feet from a two very large windows, I have 2 bars and internet is slow as crap, and to think I'm minutes to downtown Boston. This is also the same explanation I use when I call Tmo customer service to complain about said lousy service.



T-Mo, we don't want more coverage, we just want coverage that WORKS.

xrobertcmx

Premium Member

join:2001-06-18

White Plains, MD xrobertcmx Premium Member So, when will we get covered? I love T-Mobile, had them for almost four years with a gap between sign ups. I have excellent coverage at work, friends, up and down I-66, but for some reason, not in my neighborhood. We sort of get coverage on the third floor, sometimes.

Sad thing is that I'm less then a mile from a major DC area mall with a T-Mobile store in it. That store is the only place in the mall with coverage.

I keep thinking I should switch back to AT&T and wait it out, but we spend about $60 a month less with T-Mobile then we would with At&T, and I have voip at home.

brad152

join:2006-07-27

Chicago, IL ·AT&T U-Verse

·WOW Internet and..

brad152 Member Re: So, when will we get covered? Why not just use WiFi calling at home? or just get a cell-fi from T-Mobile?



Where I live in Phoenix, T-Mobile is the only thing that actually works in here, as VZ is one bar of EvDO, AT&T has to go outside, and Sprint is roaming on that one bar of VZW signal at 1x.



It's all about location, location, location. I've had T-Mobile since 2006 in several different cities and i've personally never had any issues with them, even driving across country my phone works reasonably well, especially for what i pay on my old grandfathered GetMore plan.



cork1958

Cork

Premium Member

join:2000-02-26 cork1958 Premium Member Do ya think?



Sheesh! Do you think?!



A minimum of 50% of what they all advertise is probably a major bluff! "As such, you could probably find any one of the four major carriers making a major bluff on any given day of the week, T-Mobile included"Sheesh! Do you think?!A minimum of 50% of what they all advertise is probably a major bluff!

SunnyD

join:2009-03-20

Madison, AL SunnyD Member A year ago... A year ago T-Mo would have been bouncing between EDGE and GPRS at my house, which is why I was on a Verizon MVNO for so long. Even with a T-Mo MVNO I tried until recently I would generally be bouncing between EDGE and UMTS in my house. Last month I switched to T-Mo proper, and much to my surprise I had a solid if not unremarkable LTE signal. I was rather stunned.



A year ago I would have said Verizon's ads regarding the coverage maps were probably spot on. Today, I can most certainly assure you that they are using dated materials in their ads, and the disclaimer fine print at the bottom of them say as much.