This week we speak to Julio Cesar Ody. Julio is a native of Brazil and has many years experience with spirit work. He is also a writer and a blogger and, conveniently for me, happens to also live on the east coast of Australia. No time zones for once!

We talk spiritism, grimoires, childhood séances, magical Brazil, and the general state of the magical Internet. Good chat. Good times.

Download the episode directly here or listen along on YouTube below.

Enjoy!

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