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FXO's leader Lee "Choya" Hyung Seop came to the GomTV studio to make his position on FXO's decision to stop sponsoring the team known. "There's about half a year left on our contract with FXO, but they informed us that they would be stopping their support of the team." said head coach Choya. "FXO has judged that StarCraft2 is no longer useful for giving their company exposure, and informed us they are ceasing their support because StarCraft is not doing well."



"We respect FXO's decision, and we are grateful for all their support . Even before FXO's sponsorship, I ran the team with my personal funds and funds from team league. There will be no problem in continuing to operate the team."



Choya pointed to Blizzard's WCS system as the reason for the StarCraft 2's lack of success. "Before WCS opened, Blizzard gathered all the head coaches of the teams together and said it would provide steady prize money to players and give them opportunities, but in the end nothing has changed. We were told at the time the OSL and GSL would be left alone and WCS would be run as a higher league, but it's become a situation where it's just WCS. Because of WCS, all the foundations have crumbled. If things go like this again next year, then StarCraft 2 teams will be hurt even more."



FXO players will stay with the team regardless of the sponsor's choice. The continued exitstence of the team will depend upon next year's WCS plan. The Dota2 players will stay with the team until the end of the year, and depending on the situation roster changes or selling the Dota2 team will be considered.

Source: ThisIsGame.com FXO's leader Lee "Choya" Hyung Seop came to the GomTV studio to make his position on FXO's decision to stop sponsoring the team known. "There's about half a year left on our contract with FXO, but they informed us that they would be stopping their support of the team." said head coach Choya. "FXO has judged that StarCraft2 is no longer useful for giving their company exposure, and informed us they are ceasing their support because StarCraft is not doing well.""We respect FXO's decision, and we are grateful for all their support . Even before FXO's sponsorship, I ran the team with my personal funds and funds from team league. There will be no problem in continuing to operate the team."Choya pointed to Blizzard's WCS system as the reason for the StarCraft 2's lack of success. "Before WCS opened, Blizzard gathered all the head coaches of the teams together and said it would provide steady prize money to players and give them opportunities, but in the end nothing has changed. We were told at the time the OSL and GSL would be left alone and WCS would be run as a higher league, but it's become a situation where it's just WCS. Because of WCS, all the foundations have crumbled. If things go like this again next year, then StarCraft 2 teams will be hurt even more."FXO players will stay with the team regardless of the sponsor's choice. The continued exitstence of the team will depend upon next year's WCS plan. The Dota2 players will stay with the team until the end of the year, and depending on the situation roster changes or selling the Dota2 team will be considered. Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

Waxangel Profile Blog Joined September 2002 United States 29112 Posts #2 Interesting opinion from the Korean scene! Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

GizmoPT Profile Joined May 2010 Portugal 3033 Posts #3 we need some savior of eSports Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!

Rickyvalle21 Profile Joined July 2012 United States 320 Posts #4 I agree with Choya. The WCS system is terrible. people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?

TaShadan Profile Joined February 2010 Germany 1944 Posts #5 SC2 is going down in flames, atleast in korea. Total Annihilation Zero http://www.moddb.com/mods/total-annihilation-zero

Fionn Profile Blog Joined October 2009 United States 20365 Posts #6 On October 02 2013 19:24 GizmoPT wrote:

we need some savior of eSports



We need some (up)magic and go(go) through this tough time or we'll not have the luxury to enjoy SC2 in Korea anymore.

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UmberBane Profile Joined March 2013 Germany 3036 Posts #7 Aww man... :I

Kishin2 Profile Joined May 2011 United States 2056 Posts #8 Typo in the last paragraph. exitstence -> existence.



Don't think the Dota 2 team is in much danger, considering how hard they're dominating the Korean scene.

Plansix Profile Blog Joined April 2011 United States 15207 Posts #9 To many teams, not enough money to go around. WCS or no, there are just to many Korean teams for the scene to support right now. I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6

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playerboy345 Profile Joined May 2013 Netherlands 188 Posts #11 On October 02 2013 19:25 Rickyvalle21 wrote:

I agree with Choya. The WCS system is terrible.



This, I've pretty much stopped watching sc2 because of WCS. This, I've pretty much stopped watching sc2 because of WCS.

Daralii Profile Joined March 2010 United States 8552 Posts Last Edited: 2013-10-02 10:32:42 #12 On October 02 2013 19:29 Plansix wrote:

To many teams, not enough money to go around. WCS or no, there are just to many Korean teams for the scene to support right now.

This is obviously Blizzard's fault for not having infinite money.



IMO, the biggest problem was that there weren't enough small tournaments outside of GSL and more recently OSL either for teams to make a quick buck or to attract new blood. The Korean scene was doomed to stagnate or crumble form the start. This is obviously Blizzard's fault for not having infinite money.IMO, the biggest problem was that there weren't enough small tournaments outside of GSL and more recently OSL either for teams to make a quick buck or to attract new blood. The Korean scene was doomed to stagnate or crumble form the start. Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!

Hider Profile Blog Joined May 2010 Denmark 8554 Posts #13 Because of WCS, all the foundations have crumbled. If things go like this again next year, then StarCraft 2 teams will be hurt even more."



He is clearly confusing causation with correlation. WCS didn't ruin Sc2. I think it likely wouldn't have been even worse without WCS, but eventually if there are not enough viewers watching Sc2, then the size of this scene couldn't be sustained. Thus, it has to be scaled down.



He is clearly confusing causation with correlation. WCS didn't ruin Sc2. I think it likely wouldn't have been even worse without WCS, but eventually if there are not enough viewers watching Sc2, then the size of this scene couldn't be sustained. Thus, it has to be scaled down. Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.

SoFrOsTy Profile Joined December 2011 United States 525 Posts Last Edited: 2013-10-02 10:34:39 #14 WCS may not be everyone's favorite thing, but it isn't related to the downfall of the scene. Starcraft was on the decline for a while.



Edit - Part of me hopes SC 2 loses a ton of popularity, and becomes and underground scene the way BW was in its early stages. Let it grow naturally instead of forcing it, or let it die if it is supposed to die. Julyzerg ftw

TigerKarl Profile Joined November 2010 1713 Posts #15 WCS needs to be stopped as long as there's at least a handful of people still caring about Starcraft Esports. Otherwise the game is dead before the next expansion is released. Dead as Brood War never was, that is.

Heartland Profile Blog Joined May 2012 Sweden 24411 Posts #16 On October 02 2013 19:32 Hider wrote:

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Because of WCS, all the foundations have crumbled. If things go like this again next year, then StarCraft 2 teams will be hurt even more."



He is clearly confusing causation with correlation. WCS didn't ruin Sc2. I think it likely wouldn't have been even worse without WCS, but eventually if there are not enough viewers watching Sc2, then the size of this scene couldn't be sustained. Thus, it has to be scaled down.



He is clearly confusing causation with correlation. WCS didn't ruin Sc2. I think it likely wouldn't have been even worse without WCS, but eventually if there are not enough viewers watching Sc2, then the size of this scene couldn't be sustained. Thus, it has to be scaled down.



I think you're quite right actually. I think you're quite right actually.

Dodgin Profile Blog Joined July 2011 Canada 38851 Posts #17 glad to see we're adopting the reddit method of sensationalized thread titles.

ETisME Profile Blog Joined April 2011 Hong Kong 11898 Posts #18 before wcs, there were tonnes more smaller cups, I don't even know how many still exist now

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DJHelium Profile Joined December 2010 Sweden 13479 Posts #19 On October 02 2013 19:35 Dodgin wrote:

glad to see we're adopting the reddit method of sensationalized thread titles.



Isn't that the title on TIG? I see the letters WCS at least! Seems reasonable to use the same. Isn't that the title on TIG? I see the letters WCS at least! Seems reasonable to use the same. #1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium

Undead1993 Profile Joined January 2012 Germany 16256 Posts #20 i like how he says starcraft got hurt by wcs and it will be hurt even more if wcs stays this way and you make "WCS Ruined SC2" out of it. oO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO

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