Pat Buchanan talks about U.S.-France relations and the clash between globalism and nationalism on the Laura Ingraham radio show.



French President Emmanuel Macron visited President Trump at the White House Tuesday declaring plans to "Make France Great Again" as the American president announced an intention to make a new deal with Iran.



Buchanan paints the picture of a worldwide battle between globalism and national identities, which manifests as identity politics inside the U.S., with President Trump as the avatar of American nationalism.











"If the Hungarian people want to establish basically, an illiberal democracy, the purpose of which is to preserve their national identity, that's their business. And I don't know why we would want to impose something else upon them," he said. "That is what put Trump in the White House. The fear of mass migration unstopped across America's southern border, the deindustrialization of America under this globalization free trade ideology."





PAT BUCHANAN: I think [French President Emmanuel] Macron is totally out of touch. He's trying to create an artificial nationalism out of Europe in the European Union.



Nobody is going to fight, bleed, or die for the European Union. People reject it as an invasion of their sovereignty more and more.



What we see in Hungary, and in Poland, is a desire to maintain their national identity, ethnic identity, religious identity, historic identity, as who and what they are.



If the E.U. is simply a trade agreement, fine. But if it is to create some trans-national institution, some new identity. That can only be done, eventually, by the annihilation of the old identity, which Poland and Hungary and trying to preserve.



Americans speak of the wonderful diversity that will be here when everyone is a minority racially, ethnically, culturally, every other way.



But that kind of diversity as we celebrate it would mean the death of Hungary as it exists and wishes to exist. They want to be who and what they are.



These are the most powerful forces working on peoples today, and they are in direct conflict with trans-national institutions, and mass immigration from other countries whose people are utterly different, whose people are different in their beliefs, customs, and religions...



It is a massive immigrant invasion from the Arab countries, the African countries, and Islamic countries.



Ten million Hungarians, overwhelmingly most of them Hungarian. f you bring in four or five million Arabs or Islamic people like they've got in France, Hungary cease to be what it is and what it wants to be. It is a nation-state established for a particular people. With due respect, we can see the same situation in the battle going on in Israel... They don't want immigration of Palestinians, Arabs, or others there because the country will cease to be what it was set up to be... To me, these things are much more important than the small-D democracy idea that we're all going to be under global government, or trans-national government, which is going to rule us and make decisions from Brussels.



If the Hungarian people want to establish basically, an illiberal democracy, the purpose of which is to preserve their national identity, that's their business. And I don't know why we would want to impose something else upon them...



More and more, it has been called identity politics, people have been identifying themselves by their race or their ethnic group, or where they came from, their language.



Hispanics coming from Mexico, I think there are 60 million Hispanics in the country, but when they are overwhelmingly Hispanic with Hispanic language on radio and TV stations, are they really-- they might be politically part of the United States of America, but are they really, if they are right along the Mexican border and they are more Mexican than they are American?



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The U.S.S.R. and the Russian empire collapsed completely along ethnic and tribal lines into 15 nations, and they could keep collapsing further...



These forces are the most powerful on Earth...



This drive to get us involved in Syria and all the rest of it. Trump, whatever you say for or against him is really plugged in to the sense of the American people that they want to put their country first.



If we get up a big reconstruction program for Syria, of a couple scores of billions of dollars, and no infrastructure for the U.S., that is not a salable proposition. People don't want out guys fighting over there.



Look how hard it is for them to get any number of troops together to go over and try to fix that place in the middle east, which is a disaster all through that area. The country wants out, and Trump senses it. Some of the elites are still wedded to the old visions that date back to the last century...





Take a look at one of the major concerns of "Peoples" everywhere. And, quite obviously, the reasion why [Europe] has the rise of these right wing populist parties, so-called illiberal parties, and others breaking away, is the the existential threat of Europe with its declining, small population being overwhelmed by the masses in their millions and tens of millions who are obviously going to come pouring out of Africa... Folks in Europe fear for their countries and their traditional homelands being overwhelmed. That is what put Trump in the White House. The fear of mass migration unstopped across America's southern border, the deindustrialization of America under this globalization free trade ideology... They want their own country... Political independence has got to be backed up by economic independence.

