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[216.82.243.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y80si11344604qgd.126.2014.10.30.02.21.04 for <john.podesta@gmail.com> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 02:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: podesta@law.georgetown.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=216.82.243.209; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: podesta@law.georgetown.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=podesta@law.georgetown.edu; dkim=fail header.i=@googlemail.com Return-Path: <podesta@law.georgetown.edu> Received: from [216.82.241.243] by server-17.bemta-8.messagelabs.com id 27/27-02704-00302545; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:21:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: podesta@law.georgetown.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-192.messagelabs.com!1414660864!9588308!1 X-Originating-IP: [141.161.191.74] X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.12.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5373 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2014 09:21:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAW-CAS1.law.georgetown.edu) (141.161.191.74) by server-5.tower-192.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2014 09:21:04 -0000 Resent-From: <podesta@law.georgetown.edu> Received: from mail6.bemta8.messagelabs.com (216.82.243.55) by LAW-CAS1.law.georgetown.edu (141.161.191.74) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.210.2; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:21:03 -0400 Received: from [216.82.241.131] by server-4.bemta-8.messagelabs.com id CA/08-03122-00302545; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:21:04 +0000 X-Env-Sender: rwjeffs@googlemail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-54.messagelabs.com!1414660862!8871347!1 X-Originating-IP: [209.85.212.180] X-SpamReason: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.12.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11543 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2014 09:21:03 -0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f180.google.com) (209.85.212.180) by server-6.tower-54.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2014 09:21:03 -0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi2so6781547wib.13 for <podesta@law.georgetown.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 02:21:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject :mime-version:date:cc; bh=PVVrJYeiexPsKILumiSxfOtRbULLaHm/T6ZbRm1KFyo=; b=dRi3CWc1uvlQCqkzqTb2hJDsJ7Ws+gur8p8DQz5vjDC2b1j0H07jG2qN8jgsu1Jqdd pl8f/TOBM7NqIYCoKNzdwANK4X8fPXyN/VrG+mCh6OTTbiNXuJ3QWxosEpRYZevZpGtP rhqz7sjqa3PBU+7Ot5EIdqkiXpb3eNzlckbktGbP1Hn/X7orG88BGYjB6JhAWsjrTSSL ahxdGMk9MZkuV9cMhUOMZspBfQ0KJ5Gd4xX57dPY5CduPKwF9KXhx/towoU1PbioWaFh RCZUbR9YnvndpQ45OTBUxFzorsWwQoKBmGpje7dF6OQtbir/+dPHWmXXCD0z0WaMVzyK 98ig== X-Received: by 10.180.21.166 with SMTP id w6mr18411072wie.43.1414660862294; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 02:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.167.118.85] ([149.254.182.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id iz14sm17107854wic.23.2014.10.30.02.20.56 for <multiple recipients> (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 02:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4835617C-4FDF-4B12-878A-472EFC10652A@googlemail.com> From: Rob Jeffs <rwjeffs@googlemail.com> To: georgeknapp@coasttocoastam.com, Billy Cox <billy.cox@heraldtribune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Radar Data and the USAF MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:25:03 +0000 CC: Earl Voss <earldvoss@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Dear Mr Knapp & Billy, You may be aware of my interest in recorded radar data and its potential value to the investigation of UAP/UFOs. I feel the need to bring the following situation to your joint attention. At the end of 2013 Air Combat Command 'became aware' that Hill AFB was providing recorded radar data to the public (including me, a Brit) in response to FOIA requests. After who knows how many years of providing data, ACC changed their policy and claimed that they were not required to provide such data. This change of policy occurred after I won an appeal where they tried to deny access on other grounds. However, instead of providing the data originally requested, I was asked to submit a new request whereupon they refused to provide the data based on the change of policy. I complained against this change of policy and submitted another appeal at the end of May 2014. I received an acknowledgement of receipt, but all fell silent. I chased ACC for an update in September but have yet to receive a response. I am certain that the change of policy is based on a false premise and can be successfully challenged. When the change of policy occurred Billy, (amongst others) sent an email to the Pentagon liaison office designated as the point of contact in regard to this matter, but as far as I am aware, none of us have ever received a reply. The above is a summary and I can provide further details, but I am hoping that this matter is something that you might consider worth further investigation. Btw, I have been pursuing access to recorded radar data in the UK (for over a year now) and will continue until all avenues have been exhausted. Dr Haines recently put me in touch with Luc Dini of 3AF, and amongst other exchanges he is looking at the possibility of obtaining a copy of radar data from an incident in Germany at the beginning of this year. I mention this because the analysis of recorded radar data is still in its infancy and the various rules governing access are somewhat grey. The potential value of such data is enormous and access is an international issue for ufology. Best regards, Rob Jeffs