ok so no one actually asked but here’s my more focused and thorough appraisal of the livestream Situation:

this is the tweet (since deleted) that seemed to really start the fire after the livestream last night.



this post includes timestamps for each mentioned issue

i’ll be addressing each of those points in order of appearance so you can skip around the full video in order if you’d like:

male crew member saying dyke @ 5:45:



it was the male host, eric garneau. he said it when introducing one of the chat moderators, liz, by the name of the podcast she hosts, desperate housedykes.

exact quote: “liz co-hosts a podcast called desperate housedykes .”



the surrounding convo involves introducing her and the other moderator and reminding everyone to be polite in the chat.

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staff saying DT is “creepy with kids” @ 32:25:



a fan asked what was going on with the real flutterina, whether she existed, if she was okay, etc. noelle responded that DT had picked out a random kid at a coffee shop to imitate because they assumed that a random kid would be less likely to be questioned than a random adult at a party.

exact quote: “my thought was that double trouble is an actor, so they go to like a coffee shop, and they look around, and they’re like, ‘who am i gonna base my next character on?’ they see this little girl and like, ‘perfect.’ and they just like study her and then are like, y’know, ‘now i can do it.’ and then they just trot that out, maybe put a moth spin on it for elberon… […] ‘but like, people would notice if there’s like a random kid there, like, they don’t know this kid.’ and i’m like, ‘have you ever been in groups of people that have kids, that have lots of kids? a random kid comes up to you and you’re like, ‘sure, you must belong to somebody, i don’t know you, but like, i believe that you are someone’s kid.’’ and so i truly believe that wherever flutterina is, she’s like living a perfectly normal life, does not even know any of this is happening, and double trouble just sort of like stole her likeness.”

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staff saying entrapta and hordak are good disabled representation @38:51:



this literally didn’t happen. a fan wrote in about how entrapta and hordak are great disabled rep and asked if the crew had any thoughts on their relationship. noelle responded by talking about entrapta and hordak’s arcs, their relationship to each other, their individual struggles, etc. she did not comment on whether she agreed with the fan about representation.



no exact quote because she talks for a while and none of it addresses the representation piece, just their dynamic overall.

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staff making jokes about bow’s family and slavery @56:50: someone asked if any of bow’s siblings have names, occupations, factoids, etc. according to noelle, sam szymanski (storyboard artist) came up with the idea that all of bow’s siblings have names that rhyme and pertain to their professions.

exact quote: “all of bow’s brothers, their names rhyme with ‘bow.’ so there’s like, oboe and he plays the oboe, and there’s like gogh like van gogh and he’s missing an ear. like he would just come up and he would be like, ‘which one of bow’s brothers likes to till the fields?’ and i’m like, ‘which one, sam?’ and he’s like, ‘sow!’ sam was very big on puns.”



noelle tweeted an apology to all black fans for the “sow” comment:



“Hey everyone, I made a very careless statement in today’s stream that hurt a lot of Black fans and fans of color. The implications did not occur to me and that lapse in judgment is fully, 100% on me. I apologize wholeheartedly and I’m sorry for the hurt caused and trust lost.



I take the responsibility of creating a safe and positive space for fans very seriously, and I’ve failed in that today. Thank you for making your voices heard. I will be rededicating myself to examining my language and behavior so that this failure will never be repeated.

And for white and nonblack fans, please remember that I do not need defending and do not harass or add emotional labor to those hurt by this. I accept the consequences and will be taking serious action to make this right in any way I can.”

she also posted this photo:

it is not my place to say anything about this beyond the facts.



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overall, i am not making a judgment call on any of these issues in this post. i am merely providing context and information beyond what was given in a single bullet-noted tweet. i encourage you to make an educated, informed decision about how you feel about the issues that pertain to you.

