The following clip is from a program on Egyptian television hosted by Mohamed Al-Ghiety, who is obviously not a pious or doctrinaire Muslim (it’s not clear to me whether he is considered an apostate). He discusses the recent incident involving Abdallah al-Hamamy, the Egyptian mujahid who allegedly attacked soldiers with a machete a few days ago near the Louvre. Mr. al-Hamamy’s father has been in the news in the past two days after talking to media reporters.

In this segment Mr. Al-Ghiety explains why the elder al-Hamamy can say with absolute honesty that his son could not possibly be guilty of such an attack, that he is in fact a good boy.

Many thanks to Sandra Solomon for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Transcript:

00:00 Today, one of the (French) MPs

00:04 His name is François Mollaz, he wrote…

00:07 from reports from previous attacks,

00:12 based on his word, on the previous attacks

00:16 he is a suspect in four previous attacks. Now I need to know how he was a suspect. He was staying…

00:20 In the UAE (Emirates), working. They condemned …

00:24 Reports

00:28 say he was a conscript from Al Mansura, with the Islamic State (ISIS).

00:32 I did another episode last week, and I had

00:36 the lawyer Khalid Al Bri and a guy who came back from the Islamic State…

00:40 in Libya. And they said “in the Dakahlia

00:44 Delta (area of Egypt) ISIS is trying to conscript the attacker, by amazing temptations…

00:48 Some of them travel and some of them are sleeper cells who have been arrested…

00:52 and are still under investigation. So, the Dakahlia and the Western area (of Egypt)

00:56 is an area where they recruit people for the Islamic State…

01:00 The question is, was Abdullah al-Hamamy, who committed the Louvre attack, a soldier for ISIS?

01:04 They sent him to

01:08 the Emirates, to Paris to commit a terror attack for the Islamic State.

01:12 Some say yes.

01:16 We have information that this guy, he visited Turkey many times for

01:20 As a tourist, and he stayed there

01:24 a week and he received orders from leaders…

01:28 from a Muslim Brotherhood member (Ikhwan), an Egyptian doctor who lives in Turkey.

01:32 Information (on Abdullah el-H.): worked with terrorist cell, including Egyptians, Tunisians, Syrians…

01:36 As a cover story, he worked for a company in Dubai.

01:40 And the one who helped him get the cover story job is a Muslim Brotherhood member.

01:45 I’m telling the Emirates… Be careful. Be careful. It’s the Muslim Brotherhood,

01:48 and you are the first people who discovered a huge infiltration in education from the Muslim Brotherhood.

01:52 And many people have been charged and convicted and sentenced to many years in jail.

01:56 The businesses in the Emirates have a lot of Muslim Brotherhood control, and they hire people…

02:00 from the Islamic State.

02:04 It’s strange that Abdullah al-Hamamy’s father, a retired police lieutenant…

02:08 and his brother…

02:13 who is still a police officer,

02:17 and they told me that his brother is in important secret intelligence…

02:21 Allah! The father, the retired police Lieutenant,

02:25 we recorded with his father. (is the video ready Mr. Fikri?)

02:33 I need the video…

02:37 The father, I felt he had been hit on the head.

02:41 And you will see the video right now.

02:45 And he cannot believe it and is in denial.

02:49 And this denial

02:53 when a crisis happens to anyone…

02:57 the first reaction is to deny to deny. “I cannot believe it.”

03:01 I feel the father is reacting like this. Because when his son,

03:05 who is still living with him and got married a year ago,

03:09 and he had kids. —And then all of a sudden my son is a terrorist!?

03:14 All of a sudden he commits a terror attack, and then all of a sudden the whole world…

03:17 media, the national security and the global intelligence apparatus

03:21 …and they are investigating me and the family.

03:25 This is the situation with the father right now.

03:29 But I want to tell (the father): when you study any guy

03:36 who is a member of any terrorist group, you will find…

03:40 you will find everything is very tidy.

03:44 He (the father) said his son wore jeans, had a modern look of facial hair,

03:48 …and our house is modern. And his room doesn’t have…

03:52 Allah! (expression of surprise) You have your son, he is eating and drinking with you, and

03:55 you don’t know anything about him? —And that’s what happened.

04:00 What happened with many people. They were surprised that their kids have been recruited

04:04 to be a member of a terrorist group.

04:08 A part of the Muslim Brotherhood code is that you’re not supposed to tell your family you’re a member.

04:12 Unless your family is a Brotherhood family.

04:16 This is a part of the Charter of ten or twenty rules that Hassan al-Banna, (founder) made for the Ikhwan.

04:20 So how about if he was in an even more secret terrorist group like the Islamic State?

04:29 I am talking to the father now, didn’t you read his tweets? Didn’t you see his page?

04:33 He is calling everyone a Kafir! (infidel) and this is in his private social media accounts!

04:41 Give me his picture?