NomaKasd Profile Joined September 2012 Scotland 65 Posts #2 Already looks like it's going to be a great read, even for a zerg player :D MILK IT! // Idra || Stephano || Scarlett <3 || Sacsri // asd = Aspergers

ZAiNs Profile Joined July 2010 United Kingdom 6506 Posts #3 Reporter: what do you think is the biggest problem with SC2?



iloveoov: "I have played all blizzard games with the exception of WC3. In WoW, there was a character called the Warlock. He could win 2:1 and 3:1. But blizzard kept releasing balance patches. WoW has 10 classes but I saw as blizzard kept releasing buffs and nerfs. So what ended up happening was, people started playing Warlock when it was powerful but soon jumped to Hunter when that was proven to be powerful. One day I awoke to see that they were also doing the same thing to SC2."



Reporter: I think you're referring to something other than balance.



iloveoov: "Let's compare the two games; In SC1, they only released bug patches and was relatively untouched for ten years. We would do starleagues where at times there would only be one or two protosses. Terrans would occupy more than half the pool. If David Kim were there at that time he would have buffed protoss. That would have meant that we would have been without the exciting and awe-inspiring play of Bisu's prime. Protoss was the minority race and difficult. Thus, its play was given birth to by players like Reach and Nal_Ra. To be frank, I think it is David Kim who creates the winner when it is the gamer who must create the game. It doesn't matter what I say though; the truth is David Kim will keep on tweaking the game. I don't know what his true motives are. Is it to create a 5:5:5 of balance? I truly do not know."



AxS SouL Profile Joined October 2013 Australia 12 Posts #4 This belongs on Reddit, not TL :/ -

cutler Profile Joined March 2010 Germany 605 Posts #5 great read! Thank you for showing some terran love! Sad but true situation atm ;-)

Jonicc Profile Joined January 2012 Germany 25 Posts #6 How much time did it take you to write this article? Dont whine about balance, play smarter

BLinD-RawR Profile Blog Joined April 2010 ALLEYCAT BLUES 45576 Posts #7 On June 29 2014 20:09 AxS SouL wrote:

This belongs on Reddit, not TL :/



Why? Why? Moderator Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR

KadaverBB Profile Blog Joined June 2009 Germany 25149 Posts #8 Ugh they actually released it Administrator Laws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice

RookerS Profile Joined May 2013 Ivory Coast 36 Posts #9 so if TLO goes back to terran he will win everything, the answer is revealed TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard TriHard

ZAiNs Profile Joined July 2010 United Kingdom 6506 Posts #10 On June 29 2014 20:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 29 2014 20:09 AxS SouL wrote:

This belongs on Reddit, not TL :/



Why? Why?

Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything. Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything.

Zealously Profile Blog Joined October 2011 East Gorteau 21347 Posts #11 On June 29 2014 20:18 ZAiNs wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 29 2014 20:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:

On June 29 2014 20:09 AxS SouL wrote:

This belongs on Reddit, not TL :/



Why? Why?

Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything. Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything.



It is opinionated, but calling it crap is a stretch. It is opinionated, but calling it crap is a stretch. Administrator Break the chains

KingAlphard Profile Blog Joined August 2012 Italy 1704 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-29 11:22:03 #12 I thought reading all these things continuously in twitch chats, reddit and LR threads was more than enough. Why bring it to TL News? We already know that terran players like to complain that protoss and zerg are overpowered and their reasons, I don't think it was necessary to write a 1k lines long sermon about it.

I'm not saying that what is said here is wrong, we're just tired of hearing this all day long already. hots/lotv gm protoss - tesgaming.com

ZAiNs Profile Joined July 2010 United Kingdom 6506 Posts #13 On June 29 2014 20:20 Zealously wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 29 2014 20:18 ZAiNs wrote:

On June 29 2014 20:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:

On June 29 2014 20:09 AxS SouL wrote:

This belongs on Reddit, not TL :/



Why? Why?

Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything. Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything.



It is opinionated, but calling it crap is a stretch. It is opinionated, but calling it crap is a stretch.

Really?



"soO a-moves a bunch of ultras offcreep, with Queens and out of mana Infestors lagging behind; several screens of hit & run later, 2 ultras fell for 70 supply of bio. Zerg's micro requirements in this sequence? Null: hands lifted from keyboard would have made literally no difference.



The disparity in micro required for each side in this situation is clear as day. You can see Maru microing his heart out of his units; meanwhile, Zerg is perfunctorily casting some useless ITs and a Fungal (25) ; only after 10 seconds does Jaedong awake to shift focus a few Medivacs with his mutas. Jaedong's awful engagement is left unpunished: cost-wise, Terran traded 1:2, but too few remains and supplies are even after the reproduction. Unless the fight takes place near one of Zerg's bases, Terran has no way to immediately capitalize on a won battle.



Is the reverse true? Alas, no: if Terran blunders and takes too bad of an engagement, the sanction is often immediate. " Really?"soO a-moves a bunch of ultras offcreep, with Queens and out of mana Infestors lagging behind; several screens of hit & run later, 2 ultras fell for 70 supply of bio. Zerg's micro requirements in this sequence? Null: hands lifted from keyboard would have made literally no difference.The disparity in micro required for each side in this situation is clear as day. You can see Maru microing his heart out of his units; meanwhile, Zerg is perfunctorily casting some useless ITs and a Fungal (25) ; only after 10 seconds does Jaedong awake to shift focus a few Medivacs with his mutas. Jaedong's awful engagement is left unpunished: cost-wise, Terran traded 1:2, but too few remains and supplies are even after the reproduction. Unless the fight takes place near one of Zerg's bases, Terran has no way to immediately capitalize on a won battle.Is the reverse true? Alas, no: if Terran blunders and takes too bad of an engagement, the sanction is often immediate. "

BLinD-RawR Profile Blog Joined April 2010 ALLEYCAT BLUES 45576 Posts #14 On June 29 2014 20:18 ZAiNs wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 29 2014 20:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:

On June 29 2014 20:09 AxS SouL wrote:

This belongs on Reddit, not TL :/



Why? Why?

Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything. Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything.

so theres no semblance of any facts or that the depiction of the facts are completely skewed towards how Terran has become a shit race?



I apologize for asking as I haven't been keeping up with SC2 and its pro scene much these days. so theres no semblance of any facts or that the depiction of the facts are completely skewed towards how Terran has become a shit race?I apologize for asking as I haven't been keeping up with SC2 and its pro scene much these days. Moderator Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR

Mahanaim Profile Joined December 2012 Korea (South) 1001 Posts #15 This is one epic editorial :O Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.

KingAlphard Profile Blog Joined August 2012 Italy 1704 Posts #16 On June 29 2014 20:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 29 2014 20:18 ZAiNs wrote:

On June 29 2014 20:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:

On June 29 2014 20:09 AxS SouL wrote:

This belongs on Reddit, not TL :/



Why? Why?

Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything. Because of most of it is opinionated crap and it promotes balance whine culture which is going to fill other threads and ladder with more people who think they know everything.

so theres no semblance of any facts or that the depiction of the facts are completely skewed towards how Terran has become a shit race?



I apologize for asking as I haven't been keeping up with SC2 and its pro scene much these days. so theres no semblance of any facts or that the depiction of the facts are completely skewed towards how Terran has become a shit race?I apologize for asking as I haven't been keeping up with SC2 and its pro scene much these days.



You can find facts which prove that any race is overpowered if you want to. Searching for all the facts which prove that race X is underpowered without bringing reasons to claim that race X is overpowered or balanced at the same time, is also balance whining. You can find facts which prove that any race is overpowered if you want to. Searching for all the facts which prove that race X is underpowered without bringing reasons to claim that race X is overpowered or balanced at the same time, is also balance whining. hots/lotv gm protoss - tesgaming.com

dark1882 Profile Joined October 2012 Ireland 529 Posts #17 welp time to leave TL for a few months. the next great protoss witch hunt is upon us forge fast expand or die trying~Naniwa

polpot Profile Joined April 2012 3002 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-29 11:34:12 #18 Tweaking and bringing back the Warhound would be a good choice i think, i have never been able to use them while off racing !

KMFDM Profile Joined February 2014 9 Posts #19 It's quite sad how terran has long been the shit tier race of SC2.



And there seems to be no indication that it's going to change. The race is just so unforgiving and hard to play at higher and lower levels that it's just...bleh.

aeligos Profile Joined January 2013 United States 168 Posts #20 Thanks for the post but I think Blizzard is determined to keeping Terran rekt. libera te tvtemet ex inferis A.'.A.'.

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