Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D-CA) blasted White House counselor Kellyanne Conway for being an “apologist” for President Donald Trump in scandals involving women, during a Tuesday interview with MSNBC’s Katy Tur.

“Let’s talk about Rob Porter. This is getting a bit lost in it, because we’re talking about the changing story at the White House, but the first ex-wife of Rob Porter is out with a new op-ed and she’s calling out Kellyanne Conway for a statement she made on Sunday, saying she felt that Hope Hicks, who is currently dating Porter, would be okay with him because she’s a strong woman,” Tur noted.

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Tur then read the following from the Colbie Holderness op-ed in The Washington Post.

“Borrowing Conway’s words, I have no reason not to believe her when she says that Hicks is a strong woman. But her statement implies that those who have been in abusive relationships are not strong. I beg to differ. Recognizing and surviving in an abusive relationship take strength,” Holderness wrote.

“There’s also former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci who’s tweeting about this,” Tur noted.

Domestic abuse is a red line. Covering up for it is indefensible. If speaking out against that makes me look petty, then so be it. This has nothing to do with my exit from WH. I trust the FBI Director in this matter, and so should you. We'll know the full truth soon enough. https://t.co/kWXdZHQmOH — Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) February 13, 2018

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“Do you think John Kelly should resign?” Tur asked.

“I think John Kelly should resign,” Speier answered.

“I think that what’s lost in all of this is that domestic violence is a crime and it is one of the biggest factors in women being murdered by their significant other or their spouse,” Speier reminded.

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“To have a number of people working in the White House who have records of domestic violence is really chilling to women across this country,” Speier suggested. “It certainly is chilling to me.”

“And I think that Kellyanne Conway has never really been very good on recognizing women’s issues for what they are and has always been an apologist for the president,” Speier concluded.

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