Excuse the headline–I don’t want to spoil anyone against their will. I’m sure these guys will end up in the marketing and trailers for the film, but you never know. Over the last few weeks there has been a lot of chatter about the stormtroopers of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. The most interesting thing has been about the inclusion of the Shadow Stormtrooper.

Sources say some version of:

The black Stormtroopers with the silver eyepieces are in the movie.

This piece here appears to be an approximation of what people have seen on set:

Shadow Stormtroopers aren’t really anything new. My son has a doll of one he got in a set last year. There was a large SDCC Exclusive based on it and this week we’re seeing them show up in Star Wars: Battlefront. However, they’ve never been featured on screen, but it appears that is about to change.

In other news, it appears that the First Order stormtroopers will be making a return in Episode VIII. Early reports state that the changes are fairly small like “the differences between the stormtroopers from Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi.” In other words, to general audiences, the armor will be pretty much the same but to the hardcore Star Wars fans they will see the subtle differences between The Force Awakens and the Star Wars: Episode VIII gear.