As the primary results rolled in on Tuesday, and Bernie Sanders desperately hung onto his presidential bid with wins in Utah and Idaho, he sat on a couch in Hollywood with Jimmy Kimmel. He's the least Hollywood guy, this Bernie Sanders, not flashy at all, without the time to doll himself up for the cameras or pretend to be anything he's not. So he sat there and talked about the issues. There weren't any "what's your favorite movie?" moments or "let's play beer pong" moments or "be in this silly skit where kids don't know who you are" moments. Just a guy who wants you to hear all his ideas. But, most importantly, there was this moment when Sanders discusses the attacks in Brussels.

Kimmel began the question: "In times when we are under attack or our allies are under attack, it seems that Americans gravitate toward the candidate who talks the toughest," noting that after the Paris attacks Trump's numbers shot up. "Why do you think that is?"

Sanders replied:

"I think people get afraid, and for good reasons. ISIS is a disgusting, barbaric organization. We've seen what they've done in Paris, what they've done in Brussels. People are afraid of an attack in the United States. But I think what we have to understand is we're not going to undermine the Constitution of the United States of America in order to effectively destroy ISIS. At the end of the day, we cannot allow the Trumps of the world to use these incidents to attack all of the Muslim people in the world. That is unfair. To imply that if somebody is a Muslim they're a terrorist, that is an outrageous statement."

It's difficult to see the state of this election right now. Hours after Trump threatened to "spill the beans" on Ted Cruz's wife and called for surveillance of all Muslims on U.S. soil, he won the Arizona primary, the biggest state up for grabs on Tuesday. Meanwhile, there's Sanders, who's persevering against the odds in this election. And as Kimmel noted in the beginning of the show, "A year ago nobody knew you were."

"It's a bit of a shock," Sanders said. "A good shock."

He's still here, and we should all be thankful for that. And this is why he's still around:

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