In the wake of a mass shooting in Orlando on Sunday, counterterrorism expert Sebastian Gorka opined to Fox News that it was pointless to try to prevent terrorists from obtaining gun permits because they could use Ford F-150 trucks as weapons.

Fox News host Bret Baier noted during his coverage of the shooting at a gay nightclub that left at least 50 dead that the alleged shooter, Omar Mateen, possessed a Class G statewide firearms license even though he had been placed on a watch list by the FBI.

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“He passed everything,” Gorka agreed. “Let’s be really clear about this. We could get a magic wand and the president could make all legally-owned weapons disappear in America, [but] jihadis will keep killing Americans on U.S. soil.”

Gorka pointed to an issue of Al Qaeda’s Inspire magazine: “There’s a giant poster on one of the pages that says, ‘Use your F-150 to kill the infidel.'”

“They will kill us with whatever tools they need,” he shrugged. “Pipe bombs are illegal in America, it is illegal to construct a pipe bomb. What did the Tsarnaev brothers do in Boston? Did it stop them from building pipe bombs. It didn’t.”

“So, the idea that legislation or focusing on a tool, a weapon or an explosive is going to mitigate this threat or make it disappear, again, is fantasy land.”

Gorka did not say if he supported the legalization of pipe bombs and other explosives in the U.S.

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Watch the video below from Fox News, broadcast June 12, 2016.