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Mohsen Abdelmoumen: You wrote the book The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and Trust. Its content as well as the fact that you have distributed it free on the web are revolutionary. Can you explain your concept of Open Source to our readership?

Robert David Steele: First, although I understand there is a pirate copy of the book free on the web, it is the only one of my 10 books that I do not own the English rights to. I can give a free digital copy to anyone that wants to publish it in any other languages. It has been translated into Chinese. My other books are both free online and also for sail at Amazon.

The easiest explanation of open source reverts to Richard Stallman and his early pioneering efforts with software that is both free for anyone to use, and also freely open to modification and improvement by anyone provided they offer the same freedoms to their innovations. One for all and all for one. The best online overview is provided by the Peer to Peer Foundation Wiki page, Category:Open Source Everything.

For me there are three critical aspects to open source everything and what I now call Open Source Everything Engineering (OSEE):

First, it is a mind-set and a culture as much as a process and a combination of inputs and output. OSEE is the exact opposite of the prevailing political, economic, and social paradigm that permits the fencing of the commons, the criminalization of individual behavior in relation to harvesting that commons, and the perpetuation of political tyrannies, criminal economies and concentrate wealth, and scientific reductionism. OSEE demands holistic analytics and true cost economics as its supporting pillars.

Second, it is about everything, not just software and hardware. In the book I list over 60 opens. After the book was published I created a more structured understanding of nine major open source categories with twenty-seven priority sub-categories that are needed to achieve a prosperous world at peace, a world that works for all. Michel Bauwens of the P2P Foundation and Marcin Jacubowski of Open Source Ecology (OSE) helped me refine this. The final graphic is below.

Third, The Open Source Way, the link leads to my Kindle collected white papers on this topic, the subtitle is Achieving the UN SDG Goals in 10 Years for 10% with OSEE, is, as the subtitle suggests, a means of creating a prosperous world at peace — focusing specifically on the five billion poor — in a fraction of the time at a fraction of the cost of the dysfunctional industrial-donor model. I credit Marcin Jakubowski and his Global Village Construction Setwith documenting the FACT that most things we need — from energy and water desalination to pressed brick housing and aquaponics food — can be made without chlorine, new plastic, or toxins, and it can be done at 10-20% the cost of the prevailing industrial model that relies on secrecy and the law to “fence” the intellectual commons.

Is not your proposal to reform, among other things, Intelligence as well as to create intelligence minutemen susceptible to be fought by the Establishment, because it threatens its survival? You have mobilized 800 employees in your futuristic project Phi Beta Iota with a very modern working method and an original concept. What is the impact of this immense work?

First, I only have 80 contributors, not employees, at Phi Beta Iota the Public Intelligence Blog, and of those, about 8 are most active. The Blog is merely a place for collecting and sharing useful information. It is not what I actually want to build, for that see the following:

NOBEL PEACE PRIZE: Recommended for 2017 cycle by Jan H. Kalvik, as disclosed in his essay “Intelligence & the Nobel Peace Prize,” Defence and Intelligence Norway. PR1

Put most simply, I want to build an Open Source Agency that in turn sponsors Schools of Future-Oriented Hybrid Governance everywhere, each school offering a meta-Phd/DBA that integrates holistic analytics, true cost economics, and Open Source Everything Engineering (OSEE); a World Brain Institute that sponsors a global network of local to regional to global public intelligence (decision-support) networks, perhaps including a United Nations Open-Source Decision-Support Information Network (UNODIN); and a wide range of OSEE Innovation Centers — at least one major one for each of the nine major open source categories shown in the graphic above — to begin elevating the five billion poor. By my calculation, using OSEE, we can elevated the five billion poor for a one time price of $500 per person.

In your book Information Operations: All Information, All Languages, All the Time, which makes a relevant report on the world of intelligence, you are proposing another approach, particularly in terms of inter-agency cooperation, data sharing, etc. Do you think that intelligence services are outdated and inefficient?

The book you cite is about information operations, not intelligence. I have many other books, among which the most useful to your readers would be the latest, Intelligence for Earth: Clarity, Diversity, Integrity, and Sustainability (2010), and the second one, The New Craft of Intelligence: Personal, Public, & Political (2002). All my books can be seen at my Book page online.

The easiest way to understand my vision in one single graphic is to look at the one below.

I will must make two points here. First, speaking only of the US spies that I know very well, we process only 1% or less of what we collect, and we provide “at best” according to General Tony Zinni, USMC (Ret), less than 4% of what a major commander needs, to which I would add, and nothing for everyone else. My article, “Intelligence for the President–AND Everyone Else,” CounterPunch, March 1, 2009 expands on this point. See also, the chapter in which the above graphic first appeared, “The Evolving Craft of Intelligence,” in Robert Dover, Michael Goodman, and Claudia Hillebrand (eds.). RoutledgeCompanion to Intelligence Studies, Oxford, UK: Routledge, July 31, 2013.

You are a former CIA officer who personally trained 7500 agents in 66 countries, and you claim that the CIA as well as the NSA are now out of control. How do you explain this drift and, in your opinion, what would be the solution for these agencies to be under the authority of the State?

First, I trained 7,500 mid-career officers in an ethical, legal, open manner. While I recruited over 25 agents (five times the regional average in my CIA Division), I have never recruited an agent since I left CIA. Bear in mind that in my world, agents are people who commit treason. It is not a term we use lightly. These 7,500 officers were generally from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the Partnership for Peace (PfP) countries, attracted in part because I was hired to write the NATO Open Source Intelligence Handbook and also provided most of the content for the NATO Open Source Intelligence Reader. Your readers can find many Handbooks on Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) at Phi Beta Iota, listed under the Blog page.

Second, NSA and CIA are indeed out of control, and in fact as I write this senior NSA and CIA officers are trying to topple the US government in a blatant coup d’Etat. They are using their long-standing ability to spy on all politicians with impunity to blackmail politicians such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham (Wayne Madsen broke this story). Part of the problem is that the FBI is also part of the Deep State — remember that the FBI was founded by J. Edgar Hoover, a cross-dressing pedophile — and does not do serious counterintelligence, it is more of a theatrical agency that goes through the motions.

The drift can be explained by a combination of Wall Street subversion of the US Government, from creating the Federal Reserve to federal taxation to the creation of the CIA as a secret lily pad for the Deep State, and the simultaneous dumbing down of the public — schools including universities are part of the over-all mind control campaign being managed by CIA and funded by Wall Street.

The public allowed itself to be gradually shut out of politics, and politics has been disconnected from the economy. How stupid it is to separate the teaching of politics from the teaching of economics? Or culture? Most economists are idiots — none of them do holistic analytics and true cost economics, and of course governments do not do evidence-based governance, they do bribery-based governance.

You sent a Memorandum to President Trump in which you made several recommendations by warning him on a violent American spring. You recommend that he dismiss General Flynn, while according to our sources, General Flynn was neutralized by the neocons, accused among others of being pro-Russian. Do not you think the neocons are the real holders of power in the United States, even in the Trump era? Do not you think that the neocons project has survived all the successive presidents since Bush?

Flynn is gone. My other predictions can be read here: “Donald Trump’s Next Moves: 7 Predictions from Robert David Steele,” Russian International Affairs Council, February 18, 2017. Certainly I would be pleased if your readers examined my Memorandum for the President, and also the underlying longer Spy’s Surprising Christmas Message to Trump as published at The Mind Unleashed. These are fundamental reforms that would make any population happier and more prosperous. The Christmas message was delivered via Certified Mail to Reince Priebus, the Judas in the White House, he of course did not deliver it to the President-elect (it was intended to make the Inauguration speech a unity speech) because Reince Priebus’s highest priority is to keep President Trump from unrigging the system. I encourage your readers to examine #unrig at Twitter, and to share my Memorandum for the President to @realDonaldTrump including the hashtag #unrig.

Dick Cheney and the neo-cons are the US traitors most associated with the Zionists, and they are also intimately integrated with the Saudi Arabians, Wall Street, and the military-industrial complex. The USA is a web of criminal complexes that have been legalized by a captive US Government. Matt Taibbi explains this best in his book Griftopia. I also like Chris Hedges’ book, Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle.

How do you explain the Trump administration prohibition of the entry of citizens from 7 Muslim countries (Syria, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, and Yemen), while the real generator of Wahhabi terrorism is Saudi Arabia that Mr. Trump spared? In my interview with Dr. Bruce Riedel, himself a former CIA officer, Obama’s advisor on Pakistan and Afghanistan issues, he told me that relations between the US and Saudi Arabia would never be affected. How do you explain the unfailing links between the United States with Saudi Arabia and Israel?

This is a really excellent and important question with a two-part answer.

First, this prohibition was created by Trump loyalists with limited knowledge and no experience in this domain, and it was not properly staffed through the bureaucracy. However much many might not trust Donald Trump, the bureaucracy does have many experts and a process that works. This prohibition should never have been ordered before Rex Tillerson entered on duty as Secretary of State. I would have added not only Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and Afghanistan, but also the United Kingdom (naturalized citizens from the other countries only).I will note that the judges were wrong when they said these countries have not sent terrorists to the USA, 72 terrorists arrested in the USA come from the specific countries selected by Kushner. Still and all it was a childish exercise. What they should have done was a) waited for Tillerson and staffed it properly; b) stopped issuing visas rather than cancelling visas, especially for long-term residents with established roles here in the USA; and c) thought through a deeper concept that intercepted people born in those countries regardless of citizenship (e.g. the UK is a next of terrorists with legitimate UK passports, and of course Germany and France have been equally stupid).

Second, it is important to understand that Zionist influence in the USA is based on bribery and blackmail as well as an extraordinary ability to penetrate all US electronic systems including NSA. Anything NSA collects is copied to Tel Aviv and anything many of our law enforcement agencies across the USA collect is also copied to Tel Aviv. We only have nine million Jews in the USA. They are generally loyal but too many of them are all too willing to betray the USA to help the Mossad. And of course you have Jeffrey Epstein, the Mossad agent who created Lolita Island and a no-name elite hotel in NYC — both are wired for audio and video and his mission was to collect videos of US elites raping children of both sexes. He got both Clintons and I would not be at all surprised to find he also has Chuck Schumer on tape. The Saudis have bribed everyone — they bought Syria and Yemen from the Clinton Foundation. The Saudis are also in some way a vassal state of Israel.

If with an election of Clinton, knowing that she is a warlord, we were heading for an inevitable total war, especially between the USA and Russia, can we say that the world is immune to this option against Russia, China and Iran with the Trump administration? Even if the administrations and the presidents change, does not the military-industrial complex need a total war for the benefit of the 1%?

The fate of the Trump Administration will be decided in the next two months. If Donald Trump appoints a National Security Advisor — particularly if he appoints a person who is under the influence of the Zionists as the two leading candidates are — and if he does not fire Preibus and call for an Electoral Reform Act as I recommend, then Donald Trump is toast. He will not finish his term. Riots will begin in late March as the weather gets warmer, will spread across the country with paid agitators (there are even newspaper ads now calling for people who want to learn how to and be paid to disrupt town hall meetings), and will culminate in 3 million people being bused into Washington DC for May Day (1 May).

As I note in my Memorandum for the President, he has 30 days to settle the country. I know how to do that but I do not know how to make Donald Trump listen. For that, we are in the hands of God.

What have I not asked? Any additional thoughts?

Thank you for that open-ended question. I would say three things.

First, the USA is the greatest purveyor of violence on the planet. I am most distressed about this and believe that we need a massive purge of 500 traitors across the government as well as a cut of the federal budget by 50%. We need to close the 1,000 overseas bases whose real function is to facilitate the smuggling of drugs, cash, gold, guns, and small children for the elite, by CIA using conscripted military aircraft, and we need to bring our Army home. My three monographs for the US Army Strategic Studies Institute provide a review of grand strategy, global reality, and concepts for re-inventing the US Army and everything else, your readers can find those three monographs free online as well as at Amazon.

Second, no issue — whether climate change or trade in women and children or relations between nations or economic and social justice — is going to get a fair hearing by any government in existence. All governments are corrupt and controlled by a false two-party tyranny that blocks 70% of the public from meaningful participation. All electoral systems are rigged twelve different ways. Electoral reform is the “root” reform — if electoral reform is accompanied by intelligence reform, then it is possible to do evidence-based governance that takes into account true cost economics, and deliver full employment — peace and prosperity for all.

Third, I have figured out how to raise the five billion poor from poverty with Open Source Everything Engineering (OSEE). I have the cost down to $500 per person, a one-time cost that gives them pressed brick housing, solar energy, desalinated water, aquaponics, and free Internet with free open source communications and Internet-based education. This is of course anathema to the governments that rely on bribes and the industries that rely on war and waste for their profit. In fact there is more profit to be made by peace but that profit is more evenly distributed across all of us. I would like very much to see people study, understand, and adopt my ideas for future-oriented hybrid governance, a collection of my latest papers can be found here: The Future: Recent “Core” Work by Robert Steele.

I wish everyone well and will pray for peace in our time. My motto is “the truth at any cost lowers all others costs.

Interview realized by Mohsen Abdelmoumen

Who is Robert D. Steele?

Robert D. Steele is thepro bonoChief Enabling Officer (CeO) of Earth Intelligence Network, devoted to teaching holistic analytics (HA), true cost economics (TCE), and open source everything engineering (OSEE). He seeks to create an international Open Source (Technologies) Agency for local to global information-sharing and sense-making as well as OSEE innovation. His ideas would enable the achievement of the Sustainable Development Goals — first within the USA and then globally — within a decade or two at 10-20% of the cost of the prevailing industrial-donor model.

He was recommended to the Nobel Peace Prize for 2017 cycle by Jan H. Kalvik, as disclosed in his essay “Intelligence & the Nobel Peace Prize,”Defence and Intelligence Norway. PR1

His Blog Phi Beta Iota Public Intelligence Blog is where he curates over 80 contributors who believe that the truth at any cost lowers all other costs. His most important blog post to date is this one: Memorandum for the President – Warning on a Violent American Spring, Eight Actions for Donald Trump to Make America Great Again

As author, he wrote eightbookson intelligence reform, two on electoral reform, multiple Kindle Shorts as well asarticles, chapters, lectures, monographs, online posts, andtestimony. His work is informed by being the top Amazon reviewer for non-fiction, respecting the work of other authors, publishing over 2,000 reviews in 98 categories of non-fiction reading.

He is the Co-Founder of the Information Warfare Conference, founder of the Open Source Solutions Conference, invited lecturer world-wide on topics of Cyber, Open Source Intelligence (OSINT), (All-Source) Intelligence Reform, and Applied Collective Intelligence inclusive of holistic analytics, true cost economics, and Open Source Everything Engineering (OSEE) focused on achieving the Sustainable Development Goals (SDG).

Robert David Steeleis a formerCentral Intelligence Agencyclandestine servicescase officer. He served in the Marine Corps as a 0203 Ground Intelligence Officer. After serving 4 years he joined CIA where he served for 10 years (3 tours overseas focused on extremist and terrorist targets). He resigned from the CIA to accept a Marine Corps invitation to be the senior civilian responsible for creating the Marine Corps Intelligence Center (today a Command) and served as the study directory for the flagship study, Overview of Planning and Programming Factors for Expeditionary Operations in the Third World. He resigned from the Marine Corps civil service in 1993 to lead the modern Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) revolution, and is the author of the DIA, NATO, and SOF OSINT Handbooks, as well as personally responsible for training 7,500 officers from 66 countries. Mr. Steele holds graduate degrees in international relations and public administration from Lehigh University and the University of Oklahoma. He has also earned a certificate in intelligence policy from Harvard University and a diploma in defense studies from the Naval War College.

Memorandum for the President: http://tinyurl.com/Memo4Trump

Personal web page: http://robertdavidsteele.com

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