Yesterday we posted an interview with the Hungarian intelligence analyst László Földi about the deliberately engineered “refugee” crisis in Europe. Below is another interview with Mr. Földi on the same topic in which he breaks down the modus operandi of the migration into different tactics used within a 4th-generation warfare strategy to deconstruct the nation-states of Europe.

The discussion on the program centers on recent news stories. More details about one of them — the mass sale of SIM cards to the terrorists — may be found in an article below the video.

This interview was conducted as part of a radio program, so Vlad has added relevant file footage to accompany the discussion. Many thanks to CrossWare for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

The following article about the SIM cards (also translated by CrossWare) is from the Magyar Idők. The translator includes this note:

The translated article:

Video transcript:

0:00 We listened to the report together with László Földi, the ex-Director of Operations at the

0:04 Hungarian Intelligence Services and a security expert. Good morning.

0:09 Good morning. The starting point for everything is false information.

0:13 Even overriding logic, as we heard here from the reporter. They are just incredibly outrageous lies.

0:22 Yes, I now believe a serious attack will start against Hungary,

0:28 and from three directions at the same time.

0:33 One of them will be a formal political attack from Brussels,

0:38 another one an informal attack with the help of the mainstream media,

0:41 which will be the significant portion of the Western media outlets,

0:44 but also the local media which are financed from outside of Hungary.

0:48 The third one is a concrete attack against our borders —

0:52 as we can see it beginning (in Serbia) — “civilian” organizations are cooperating

0:56 with Muslim soldiers to bring in the masses.

1:00 And this report we just heard was the first step of this combined offensive.

1:07 This is where we have to look at this not as a random occurrence,

1:11 but this type of information is spread methodically?

1:15 Because it is easy to recognize the pattern as things happen one after another,

1:20 whether they come from “humanitarian organizations” or some other sources.

1:25 But we can see this information is moving the migrant masses.

1:30 That is correct. However the “civilian organizations” have a double logic.

1:36 One of which is judged by the community as correct because it’s about helping people.

1:42 This has an effect on the average citizen and he is taken in by it.

1:48 But building on that, there comes the secondary purpose: as based on

1:54 a very conscious logic, they try force a strategy on states

2:00 by using vulnerable and desperate people.

2:05 Because would it not be more humane for the people who arrived in Belgrade —

2:09 illegally, I might add, without any travel documents and visas —

2:18 to suggest that they visit the Hungarian consulate there and ask for a visa.

2:23 From that moment, all problems would go away, not for the people who arrived,

2:29 but no problems for the Hungarian border patrols and soldiers,

2:35 Who have only to check the valid visas at the border.

2:40 As this is not happening, which makes it very clear this is not a normal humanitarian issue.

2:45 And why would it be the task of a humanitarian organization

2:49 to tell migrants which direction to go? — This is another question.

2:54 Because if the source of this false information were the smugglers, we could understand, but why

2:58 would a “humanitarian organization” want to move these masses?

3:01 The reason why they doing this because they were

3:04 not really created for this purpose (humanitarian help).

3:08 This is a well-established system, built years ago.

3:12 What we seeing every day here is a 4th generation military operation against Europe.

3:22 Not using traditional weaponry to enforce a strategy, but using economic

3:26 and social infrastructure, and one element of that is the actions

3:30 carried out by civilian humanitarian organizations.

3:35 If we are talking about 4th generation warfare, let me bring into our conversation

3:38 one of the articles from the news.

3:41 The Magyar Idők (Hungarian Times) wrote that last summer someone bought

3:46 around 200,000 SIM cards for a single name, from one of the Hungarian phone providers.

3:58 They buyers were the ISIS soldiers who executed the attack in Paris (Bataclan).

4:06 So this is part of the tools they use now.

4:10 These are not the classic weapons we would expect in a war.

4:15 We do not even see this situation as war, as you mentioned:

4:19 no guns; there is no artillery or carpet bombing,

4:23 but there are still changes our normal and peaceful lives in a way we do not expect.

4:30 But the other message of this case is: what is the way to prevent this?

4:43 If an intelligence agency wanted to have access to some data continuously,

4:48 independently of whether this is part of an ongoing investigation or not,

4:54 which would help to filter out a suspicious transaction like this one.

4:58 So if the provider realizes what is happening — and they definitely knew about this —

5:02 and gets suspicious that something is wrong with some transactions —

5:06 not necessarily thousands like here — but a couple of dozen

5:10 based on the same name, someone should have realized that something was wrong.

5:13 In the company’s IT system will it be shown clearly,

5:17 for example with invoicing, what name will they use?

5:20 These were preloaded phone cards so they never got to the point of invoicing.

5:23 and there is a mandatory activation information which was required,

5:27 but there was a two-day gap and they used that.

5:30 This is true, but it would still be possible to digitally watch and accumulate

5:35 this information; it’s only a matter of technology.

5:40 And they should have brought the authorities’ attention to this. If someone is doing this with no

5:45 malicious reason, then nothing would happen to them, but if yes, then we could defend ourselves

5:49 before it happened, and not after. Let’s go back to the point

5:52 where we said in this 4th generation warfare we see

5:55 these movements. One part is active, which brings masses in the direction of our borders,

6:05 and then they have more informal attacks. What makes it visible,

6:11 that these attacks are getting stronger in the future?

6:18 It was not a coincidence that I said it is a formal political attack directed at Hungary

6:23 from Brussels. They want to kill off at the roots any rebellious attitude,

6:28 which is represented by Hungary, against a strategy they planned well ahead.

6:33 That goal is to convert Europe into this multicultural system.

6:38 A system which is above nations. Hungary is refusing to go along with this.

6:42 Of course Hungary is not the only one that does not want this, but we actually took steps against it.

6:45 In one part we try to stop the illegal migration; in other parts

6:52 we are creating new laws which will defeat this strategy over the long run.

7:00 So this is one column of the attack, the media is another,

7:03 and the third one is the activities of the “civilian organizations”,

7:06 which aligns with the Muslim soldiers’ and terrorists’ objectives.

7:10 Even so if that is not direct cooperation.

7:14 This is well-coordinated; it is not separate that Brussels wants something,

7:17 the MSM wants something, and the civilian organizations want something, too.

7:20 But this is a very well-coordinated effort, where it is only that tasks are divided

7:24 between the branches of the same attack force.

7:28 I have been talking with László Földi, the ex-Director of Operations