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New Daily! Trudy's Surprise Slot Machine! Posted by Rylon

Posted on July 15, 2015, 1:17 pm NST

UPDATE 18/07: The slot machine is now properly released, you can find it on any Neopets page. Standard prize for day 1 appears to vary between 2,000 NP and 3,000 NP, with 4,000 NP as the Bad Luck Bonus and a standard NC Gift Box as the NC bonus. We now have a guide up.



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IMPORTANT NOTE: The slot machine currently awards the prize without the needs to physically click the spin button. That means, if you log into side accounts at this time, you will automatically be awarded the prize. Given that the prizes will scale up to 100K, we're assuming this is not an activity that will be allowed on side accounts, so be cautious until TNT clarify/fix the situation.



UPDATE 17/07: Some users reported earlier today that the Slot Machine had begun loading at the top of any page they visited, though was broken when awarding prizes. It seems to have been released early, and has now been removed. Hopefully we can expect to see it released in full shortly.



The introduction text to the daily was appearing, and features how Trudy the Ixi stumbled upon the Slot Machine!



A strange feeling nagged Trudy, a curious Ixi, for days. A forewarning of doom perhaps, she thought. Soon after, on one of her long, solitary walks that spanned the length and breadth of Neopia, something strange happened. She heard an unusual rustle in the bushes. Curious, she took a peek. Hidden among the bushes was a slot machine! �Ka-ching, ka-ching,� it seemed to whisper. Trudy hesitated only for a moment before she succumbed to its call. She pressed the button on the machine, unsure of what she may unleash. To her amazement, she was awarded Neopoints. Trudy fell to the ground and cried with joy. She could finally afford a fancy frock for the ball.



From then on, Trudy took more walks, hoping luck would smile upon her again. And it did. She discovered she could play the machine once every day to win prizes. With each consecutive day, the number of Neopoints awarded increased. Occasionally, the machine was extra generous and gave her a Gift Box. On the 25th day of playing, she won a phenomenal number of Neopoints!



After 25 days, things changed, leaving Trudy puzzled. This FAQ, helped her make sense of everything, though. ---------------------------

A new FAQ has been released for an upcoming activity: Trudy's Surprise Slot Machine! We're unclear at this point if this will be an ongoing daily or a fixed-term event, all we have available are the below five questions on the subject!



We'll keep you posted as soon as more information is available. Let us know your initial thoughts in the comments below!



How often can I use Trudy's Surprise Slot Machine?

Trudy's Surprise Slot Machine can be played once a day. It will be available on all pages, but will disappear once it has been used, and will not be shown again in the same 24-hour period. The day will reset at 00:00:00 NST.

Trudy's Surprise Slot Machine can be played once a day. It will be available on all pages, but will disappear once it has been used, and will not be shown again in the same 24-hour period. The day will reset at 00:00:00 NST.

How many Neopoints will I earn each time I use Trudy's Surprise?

The amount of Neopoints awarded will keep increasing for each consecutive day you play! Each day you come back and spin again, you can increase your prize. If you play 25 consecutive days, you could win 100,000 Neopoints, then the counter is reset to Day 1 to work your way up again!

The amount of Neopoints awarded will keep increasing for each consecutive day you play! Each day you come back and spin again, you can increase your prize. If you play 25 consecutive days, you could win 100,000 Neopoints, then the counter is reset to Day 1 to work your way up again!

I got less Neopoints today from Trudy's Surprise than yesterday. What happened?

The prize pool resets if you miss a day, or after 25 consecutive days.

The prize pool resets if you miss a day, or after 25 consecutive days.

The Terrifyingly Bad Luck bonus sounds terrifying. What is it?

The Terrifyingly Bad Luck Bonus is awarded for having, well, bad luck. If you play and your slots machine shows up 4 different items, you have the chance of being awarded extra points. However, you can only win this bonus once in a while. So, if you have Terrifyingly Bad Luck more than once within a week, well, that's just worse than terrifyingly bad luck and even we can't help you.

The Terrifyingly Bad Luck Bonus is awarded for having, well, bad luck. If you play and your slots machine shows up 4 different items, you have the chance of being awarded extra points. However, you can only win this bonus once in a while. So, if you have Terrifyingly Bad Luck more than once within a week, well, that's just worse than terrifyingly bad luck and even we can't help you.

Does Trudy's Surprise reward only Neopoints? Are there any bonus prizes?

There is a chance to receive an bonus NC prize! Follow @jellyneo on Twitter for all the latest #Neopets news! : The slot machine is now properly released, you can find it on any Neopets page. Standard prize for day 1 appears to vary between 2,000 NP and 3,000 NP, with 4,000 NP as the Bad Luck Bonus and a standard NC Gift Box as the NC bonus. We now have a guide up.: The slot machine currently awards the prize without the needs to physically click the spin button. That means, if you log intoat this time, you will automatically be awarded the prize. Given that the prizes will scale up to 100K, we're assuming this is not an activity that will be allowed on side accounts, so be cautious until TNT clarify/fix the situation.: Some users reported earlier today that the Slot Machine had begun loading at the top of any page they visited, though was broken when awarding prizes. It seems to have been released early, and has now been removed. Hopefully we can expect to see it released in full shortly.The introduction text to the daily was appearing, and features how Trudy the Ixi stumbled upon the Slot Machine!A new FAQ has been released for an upcoming activity:! We're unclear at this point if this will be an ongoing daily or a fixed-term event, all we have available are the below five questions on the subject!We'll keep you posted as soon as more information is available. Let us know your initial thoughts in the comments below!

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loveisafireescape , July 15, 2015 1:21 PM NST Waaaaaaaaaaait. This isn't some kind of NC-based event giving out mainly Neopoints, right? D:

pikachu315111 , July 15, 2015 1:25 PM NST Doesn't sound like NC if the slot machine will be appearing randomly on any page, doesn't mention anything about needing a token, and the last question makes it sound like anything NC is a bonus.

maple_snow , July 15, 2015 1:25 PM NST Could be interesting!

Reminds me of the daily chance on Gaia.

morganjoisle , July 15, 2015 1:26 PM NST Okay, due to proof of having events in recent years that are NC based, I'm going to have to agree with you, loveisafireescape.



Though there was some question in a recent editorial about having a new neopoint and not-NC based event sometime soon, wasn't there?



Though with Jumpstart, even though they aren't Nickelodeon and also have those huge issues with payment issues, like - I can still see this being an NC event. And going back on the not mixing NC/np rule. And doing it in such a grotesque way.



*sighs and shakes head* Due to the last question in the FAQ, loveisafireescape, I'm going to have to fully agree with you on that point.

loveisafireescape , July 15, 2015 1:32 PM NST I really really hope my original suspicion was wrong, though. But I don't want to be too hopeful for a new event/daily if it turns out I won't be able to participate anyway :/

elephante109 , July 15, 2015 1:34 PM NST It sounds a bit like Qasalan Expellibox to me. Main prizes are NP but there's a chance to win NC. I understand everyone's concern about mixing NP and NC, but I think I'll withhold judgement about this new feature until we learn more.

zeelink , July 15, 2015 1:41 PM NST Interesting. It sounds fun, and it's a new incentive to get people to keep playing.

dave - JN Staff , July 15, 2015 2:10 PM NST It sounds like a daily, with your prizes being dependent on you actually doing it daily.

maria1593 , July 15, 2015 2:12 PM NST Sounds like a standard incentive to log in every day. I'm lukewarm about it.

stories2btold , July 15, 2015 2:42 PM NST Sounds like an event to me.

stories2btold , July 15, 2015 2:46 PM NST Oh nevermind missed the whole 25+ days thing.

herdy - JN Staff , July 15, 2015 3:02 PM NST Perhaps says a lot that we're having to have incentives to log in every day now

azienskieth , July 15, 2015 3:32 PM NST All dailies are incentives to log in every day.

goldennightfox , July 15, 2015 3:35 PM NST Initial thoughts? "Oh hey look they're devaluing the neopoint even more." It sounds like it only awards np??? (with the chance of nc?) If they hadn't added way too many "easy np and rare item" things I'd almost definitely be on board, but for now... well, I hope they make a new (major) np sink!!

jawsch - JN Staff , July 15, 2015 3:58 PM NST Yay, pumping more NP into an already saturated market

melinda_kacheek , July 15, 2015 4:12 PM NST Sounds like something that certain FB games do to daily players. Wonder what the NC items will be.

inkpot , July 15, 2015 4:14 PM NST i don't get why people are angry at there being a new daily.......



personally, KQ was my main source of income. but now w/ that gone i rely solely on the BD and when i remember to place bets in the FC.



y'all are never happy.

azienskieth , July 15, 2015 4:20 PM NST Well, that goes for me, anyway.



I'm not happy because there's no reason to be happy. Very little has been done right lately. We're not angry, just disappointed.Well, that goes for me, anyway.I'm not happy because there's no reason to be happy. Very little has been done right lately.

pigfish99 , July 15, 2015 4:24 PM NST Okay, this scares me. This can and WILL break the economy if done wrong. Anyone Remember Flynn's Booty And Flynn's chest from Gaia online?



It broke the economy so bad, it turned a 1 Gold item into a 32000 gold item.

This will make the coincidence event's inflation seem like a freaking walk in the park.

taxidea , July 15, 2015 5:03 PM NST in a way it sounds pretty neat but then again if it means you can get a lot of np easily things could inflate in price. guess we'll just have to see how it works out.

auraichadora , July 15, 2015 5:36 PM NST Ooo! This has me excited!

While I understand people are frustrated with TNT and JS over things being broken and whatnot, it's also important to have new things to do as well. So I'm looking forward to having a new daily to do!

morganjoisle , July 15, 2015 6:14 PM NST



That sounds like something that could comparatively happen here on neopets. Charity Corner did a decent job, and with Habitarium gone the economy has been more fun to play with on a day to day basis.



But people get an easy 50k a day on Ghoul Catchers, too.



I don't feel that Jumpstart (almost called them Viacom for a second, this tells ya how old inflation was since the Viacom thing was a force of habit) really knows how to control the neopian economy, and I guess I mostly don't want it to get out of control.



We don't need the two hundred million neopoint items becoming worth two hundred billion neopoints. @pigfish99: My friend told me that they had major economy issues.That sounds like something that could comparatively happen here on neopets. Charity Corner did a decent job, and with Habitarium gone the economy has been more fun to play with on a day to day basis.But people get an easy 50k a day on Ghoul Catchers, too.I don't feel that Jumpstart (almost called them Viacom for a second, this tells ya how old inflation was since the Viacom thing was a force of habit) really knows how to control the neopian economy, and I guess I mostly don't want it to get out of control.We don't need the two hundred million neopoint items becoming worth two hundred billion neopoints.

princess_rozelia , July 15, 2015 7:17 PM NST COULD IT BE!??? Neopets actually took a suggestion!?!? During the last big survey I suggested a consecutive log-in daily thing JUST LIKE THIS! I suggested that they create a daily that, like some other games have, give better rewards each consecutive day you log in, and also included a chance of winning NC. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS I'M SO EXCITEDDD OMGCOULD IT BE!??? Neopets actually took a suggestion!?!? During the last big survey I suggested a consecutive log-in daily thing JUST LIKE THIS! I suggested that they create a daily that, like some other games have, give better rewards each consecutive day you log in, and also included a chance of winning NC. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS I'M SO EXCITEDDD

pigfish99 , July 15, 2015 7:27 PM NST @morganjoisle major is an understatement. a 300K item from 2007 costs 11 billion from august 2014.



yeah.

andreaa9087 , July 15, 2015 7:28 PM NST Please tell me this isn't happening. Please.



On one hand, it's fairly hard to earn NP, so I'm all for this daily.



On the other, it will just inflate items further. So, no real point, eh? :/

jawsch - JN Staff , July 15, 2015 8:14 PM NST The "habitarium" argument is moot in regards to daily neopoint earnings.



Why do people act like it set some sort of "bar" and that as long as they don't release dailies which give out more np than Habi did, it's okay?



Habi was abused and pumped trillions upon trillions of np into the economy. We don't need anything like it again. If you want to make daily np.....play Neopets perhaps? There are tons of ways to make np.

illusionshadow_s , July 15, 2015 8:42 PM NST people all over the ncc pc hc are getting hacked, be careful everyone

morganjoisle , July 15, 2015 8:47 PM NST



*sighs* But it does seem to be a major issue at the moment. @illusionshadow_s: I've heard about it on the Charter. I'm paranoid/terrified to visit pretty much any board right now, so, gaaaaah. I can't keep up to date on this, 'cause my only info is from the boards, the comments section of JN, and the forums. D:*sighs* But it does seem to be a major issue at the moment.

a0r10n , July 15, 2015 9:40 PM NST This... could work. It really could. IFF done correctly. Too many neopoints? Break the economy. Require NC? Buy to win game. Release rare items? Deflation of value.



However, everyone has neglected to mention how this seems to be luck based. It could be possible to lose neopoints on this thing. And bonus compounding could be on consecutive days of winning only.

TL;DR: I see another wheel. Could be great. Could be disastrous.

nick - JN Staff , July 15, 2015 9:45 PM NST Desperate attempt to get people to keep coming back to the site.

kotoko966 , July 15, 2015 9:47 PM NST Is anyone else having problem getting in?

elvenfaery , July 15, 2015 10:46 PM NST I'm not against a new daily, per se, I just think it'd be best to have one both more original and much less likely to dole out the NP as reliably as this sounds likely to. :/

Really, it sounds like the fruit machine or Tombola (possibly on steroids), as the FAQ doesn't mention the chance of losing anything, just the lack of winning (which can be negated). It's also a little like a quicker way to see the benefits of daily bank interest. I'd much rather see more substantial new content, or updates/fixes to the currently defunct features we're already supposed to have.

Nick summed up my initial reaction pretty well, and now I'm alternating between feeling simply underwhelmed and feeling very apprehensive about the potential effects on the economy.

cat , July 16, 2015 1:48 AM NST Actually the FAQ mentions some sort of Bad Luck Bonus, so the implication is

1. You won't always win.

2. Some sort of negative can occur if you're really unlucky.



Also the thing about "You could win 100,000 NP" instead of "You will win 100,000 NP" makes it sound like winning NP every day isn't guaranteed, rather it's just one possible outcome with the amount of NP paid out if you do win NP increasing with consecutive plays.



To be honest the FAQ looks unfinished, or like it's meant to accompany the explanation given in the actual daily/game, which hasn't been released yet.

mistyraider , July 16, 2015 3:52 AM NST



But they did get one thing right today -- in the community central page the blurb about what is in the editorial is actually accurate for the first time in months!



ps I still miss my habi, it was a lot of fun. Early on I tried to run the thing 20 hours and blew out my computer's fan, it had to be replaced, cost real money so the habi never helped my bank balance! I'm gonna wait and see how this affects the economy. I think JS is pretty clueless about how things work and how knowledgable and invested we players are in the history, etc.But they did get one thing right today -- in the community central page the blurb about what is in the editorial isactually accurate for the first time in months!ps I still miss my habi, it was a lot of fun. Early on I tried to run the thing 20 hours and blew out my computer's fan, it had to be replaced, cost real moneyso the habi never helped my bank balance!

lute248 , July 16, 2015 4:09 AM NST i've been hit by the mass hack myself despite the pin imposed on everything in my account (even my NC trading)



I'm not even sure how i managed to get hacked. Might be from the codestone i bought

luuc , July 16, 2015 4:57 AM NST Seems that a lot of people got hacked, please JellyNeo, make an article about it! We need to share our stories and informations about it, I'm afraid of playing Neopets.

neoixan , July 16, 2015 5:41 AM NST Guys best way to protect yourself is to keep different passes

cloudfaerie , July 16, 2015 10:55 AM NST I second luuc's suggestion, does JN have any information on this? Perhaps a warning of some sort? :/ If I'd known about the recent hacking on neopets I would not have logged into my accounts today.

herdy - JN Staff , July 16, 2015 1:25 PM NST Semi-inactive accounts have been compromised - meaning it likely isn't a CGer and therefore not anything users can avoid. It's sucky, but any warning JN put up would be largely useless in preventing anything.

elvenfaery , July 16, 2015 1:25 PM NST See, I read the "bad luck bonus" part as not really bad at all, more like something similar to the pity NP the Tombola guy gives you when you don't even win a booby prize. It states it happens when your slots show four different items, which, for a slot machine, would be as far from winning as possible, hence the "terrifyingly bad luck". It's still probably not a guarantee you'll win anything, but it likely increases your chances or multiplier for next time. But if your luck is so bad that you still don't come close to winning, well, no bonus can help with that.



I agree that the FAQ looks incomplete, or at least it won't stand alone as the only info on this thing, so all any of us can do is speculate anyway. My instincts tell me that of course it's all about the *chance* of winning big, but if they're touting the benefits of not missing a day it's probably because that chance will increase significantly by the end of the month.

elvenfaery , July 16, 2015 1:30 PM NST I really don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but, well, the economy is already rocky, and even the old Team made good intentioned blunders even with the benefits of hindsight the new Team likely lacks.



As far as the compromised account thing goes, I don't really think JN is going to have a lot of information or new tips to give, and a big, bold notice on their news feed is probably more likely to be seen as fear mongering.

I'm already freaked out enough just by perusing a couple of the neoboards. And I usually don't get freaked out... heh.

cat , July 16, 2015 2:20 PM NST I remember reading something on How To Train Your Dragon's forum where users were complaining of getting hacked, it might be that JumpStart's security just isn't as good as what we're use to with Neopets.



Well, we know there will be at least 4 different prize images, most likely referencing different prize types like the prize images in Kiko Pop. We also know the bad luck bonus only happens if you get 4 different prize images, which suggests you'll get something if you get doubles. Statistically if there are 4 different prize images and 4 slots you're highly likely to get doubles so you're most likely to win a small prize every day, but you probably get better prizes for getting 3 or 4 of a kind, like I would guess the NP jackpot only happens for 4 NP slots.

almost_human , July 16, 2015 2:32 PM NST "people all over the ncc pc hc are getting hacked"

I feel so nobbie; what are ncc pc hc?

lunaxporch , July 16, 2015 2:50 PM NST Neocash Chat, Pound Chat and Help Chat boards respectively.

almost_human , July 16, 2015 2:53 PM NST Thank You lunaxporch

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 4:18 PM NST @lute248: People can break PINs. I know that neopets promises them as this safety-all for people's accounts, but they really don't do that that well. My sister had a PIN on her Safety Deposit Box when she was hacked during Charity Corner, (hint, stuff from her safety deposit box ending up on the trading post was how we knew she had been hacked) and I hear of people getting hacked all the time with a PIN and stuff still going missing. Honestly, I'm pretty sure at this point that even if the only way to do so were by brute force, it can't be that hard for someone to break your PIN.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 4:22 PM NST



It might've been the codestone, though at this point, it could have been pretty much anything on the site. I don't know what to say to you.



@luuc: Jellyneo doesn't usually post about this type of thing. Part of it might be that nobody really knows the details and what actually has been triggering people's accounts being hacked into, and I think another part of it is to try and keep the peace.



When Jellyneo posts about something like this, - well, everybody puts every bit of credence in what things here say, and it would cause more of an uproar. @lute248: I'm sorry that your account got hacked.It might've been the codestone, though at this point, it could have been pretty much anything on the site. I don't know what to say to you.@luuc: Jellyneo doesn't usually post about this type of thing. Part of it might be that nobody really knows the details and what actually has been triggering people's accounts being hacked into, and I think another part of it is to try and keep the peace.When Jellyneo posts about something like this, - well, everybody puts every bit of credence in what things here say, and it would cause more of an uproar.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 4:25 PM NST The Sunny fan site hasn't posted on it either. *shrugs shoulders*



I kind of understand why Jellyneo wouldn't post something on this. It's major, it's a security issue, and they also don't want to cause more chaos and put people's accounts at risk.



Idk, this is something that I understand where they wouldn't want to make a newspost about this.



@neoixan: Yes. I'd recommend keeping a different one for every account you have. And don't save the list to your computer. Keep it on one or two pieces of paper that you'll always know where they are, that are safe and unlikely to get stolen or destroyed.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 4:28 PM NST @herdy: Oh, heavens... Oh, heavens, heavens, heavens, heavens...



This is nerve-wracking. Thank you for the knowledge and information on this subject.



@elvenfaery: I do feel that that is one of the reasons why we haven't had a specific post on this. Not so much as that it would be seen as fear-mongering, but that it seriously would scare many people out of their wit's ends, and cause more fear when there's - well, ... nothing that can even be done on this.



This whole situation is - well, I really should start playing some other website instead of neopets. *sighs*

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 4:30 PM NST @cat: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh no. No, no, - I can see that happening. Neopets itself - I'd bet my keyboard on that that's probably what's happened at this point.



I mean, they've changed servers, providers of things, the whole back-end stuff with the e-wallet provider. Like, honestly. I would not be surprised if they had been hacked.



And I do not think that with the way tickets and support are these days, that a fraction of these people are going to get their stuff or accounts back.

a0r10n , July 16, 2015 4:39 PM NST The PINs are not secure at all. Period.

If you enter the wrong PIN, or no PIN, into your safety deposit box, you'll notice the oops page has that number right in your URL. Change it to the correct one and it goes right through. There's no encryption, not even substitution. If you do brute force a PIN, it's 10,000 combos. FYI, 0000 is not a secure PIN. These are probably tried first. I don't put salt on a PIN for actual security, more as a deterrent to discourage hacking. I might change my PW to something long & obtuse, I don't know yet.

azienskieth , July 16, 2015 4:52 PM NST You can't have four of the same digit in your PIN anyway. You can have three, though.

elvenfaery , July 16, 2015 5:13 PM NST it might be that JumpStart's security just isn't as good as what we're use to with Neopets.

---

I'm not sure if I find that oddly reassuring or not. Not sure how to explain what I mean.



I'm just trusting in the strength of my pw, and avoiding posting anything on any board right now just in case someone is targeting old accounts, especially if they aren't, or don't appear to be, very active. I really hope it's just an irrational fear, but part of me does wonder about disgruntled, disenchanted folks out there trying to make some sort of statement.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 5:26 PM NST But it's also something that's good to know, and something that I'm going to know to be aware of in the future.



Thank you for telling us about it, a0r10n, love. @a0r10n: Ooh... I tried in my safety deposit box with the wrong pin to see what the URL said, and what you say seems suspiciously close to being right. Oh, heavens, this is a new thing to worry me.But it's also something that's good to know, and something that I'm going to know to be aware of in the future.Thank you for telling us about it, a0r10n, love.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 5:31 PM NST



Good point, good point. Thank you for pointing this out to me, though on the other hands it's also one of things where I'm thinking "hey, are we going to get in trouble for talking about ways that our accounts can get hacked?" even if it's on a fan site. lol



But it's still good information to know, that most everyday users do not know at all, and that hackers probably all know. @a0r10n: Ohhhhh, goodness... And I changed it to the right one in the URL and it removed the Blue Cap from the first page of my safety deposit box.Good point, good point. Thank you for pointing this out to me, though on the other hands it's also one of things where I'm thinking "hey, are we going to get in trouble for talking about ways that our accounts can get hacked?" even if it's on a fan site. lolBut it's still good information to know, that most everyday users do not know at all, and that hackers probably all know.

rosi , July 16, 2015 5:59 PM NST I think these "revealing" messages ought to be deleted

scoobyoobiedoos , July 16, 2015 7:00 PM NST As far as I can tell the neopet economy broke a long time ago. Most items that used to be unbuyable are now ridiculously buyable. It's sad.

a0r10n , July 16, 2015 7:05 PM NST Whup, the policy's changed. Now, your PIN is encoded in the URL represented by an indeterminate amount and style of cute bears. The security's real tight and has no pattern. Happy days!

elvenfaery , July 16, 2015 7:24 PM NST Well thank Fyora, that's a relief!

melinda_kacheek , July 16, 2015 7:50 PM NST Not getting the URL you guys are referring to. Must be different on certain browsers.



Anyway a very good reason not to store any personal info on your computer except for your email in case someone is trying to get into your account a pw request should get you to change both your email and Neopets account words. Also make sure your email address is current and valid on your account info- it wouldn't work if you don't have one.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 9:13 PM NST @rosi: They're also things that every-day users ought to be able to learn about. It's one of those things where they're never talked about for the safety of everyone, but where us everyday users don't know of this in order to protect ourselves.



It's mixed, and I guess I'm more worried talking about it in that this account is associated with a username on the site that lots of people are getting hacked on, so 1. I don't want a target on my back, and 2. neopets is sometimes rather freeze-happy onsite, and talking about anything related to this type of issue isn't a good idea in general.



But it's also something where the PIN security issue is something that's probably been leaked to hackers before, and it seems odd that they'd be seeking it out in the JN comments.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 9:17 PM NST @a0r10n: I don't think it's been fixed. ... No, it hasn't been fixed.



I am so endangering my account by so much as testing things this way, but by changing the URL with the wrong PIN to the right PIN, I was able to remove an item from my safety deposit box.



It appears to still be an exploit that could be broken, and I have no inclination to test it further and risk my account in such a way. Even if it is my account and theoretically should be within bounds.

morganjoisle , July 16, 2015 9:21 PM NST I'm paranoid and don't want either a. hacked, or b. frozen for talking about ways that people can get hacked offsite. lol @rosi: Also if JN would like to delete those comments now.I'm paranoid and don't want either a. hacked, or b. frozen for talking about ways that people can get hacked offsite. lol

rosi , July 17, 2015 3:29 AM NST Sorry for my bitterness.

A while ago I also noticed a couple of flaws here and there and was about to post here just for the sake of knowledge, but I refrained because, even if we're all loyal users who post here (aren't we?) dishonest people could also read and take advantage of those flaws.

The PIN thing was discovered by someone close to me a couple of years ago, but she didn't tell anyone but me just to be sure...

I guess the only protection measure we can take is to change our pw to something obscure and not a dictionary word, but we all already know this, don't we?

So, if JN's mods could delete all this stuff.... So apparently I was the only one who got the hint of sarcasm in a0r10n's string-of-cute-dancing-bears messageSorry for my bitterness.A while ago I also noticed a couple of flaws here and there and was about to post here just for the sake of knowledge, but I refrained because, even if we're all loyal users who post here (aren't we?) dishonest people could also read and take advantage of those flaws.The PIN thing was discovered by someone close to me a couple of years ago, but she didn't tell anyone but me just to be sure...I guess the only protection measure we can take is to change our pw to something obscure and not a dictionary word, but we all already know this, don't we?So, if JN's mods could delete all this stuff....

burning_shadows_79 , July 17, 2015 4:13 AM NST

If JumpStart can't guarantee the security of users' accounts, and people are being hit with mass hacking apparently out of the blue, then this is the end of my time on Neopets.



Since TNT's departure I have been cataloguing my Neopets' personalities and histories for posterity, just in case. In response to this crisis - and since I dare not log into my accounts only to find that I've been affected - I'll expand those records to include my entire history on Neopets. Then I'm taking myself off the site for good.

I'll still hang around Jellyneo though, just for the nostalgia.



At least there'll be something to fill the void - Zoombinis, my favourite game from childhood, is being re-released for tablets on August 6th. Well... after more than nine years, it looks like this is it.If JumpStart can't guarantee the security of users' accounts, and people are being hit with mass hacking apparently out of the blue, then this is the end of my time on Neopets.Since TNT's departure I have been cataloguing my Neopets' personalities and histories for posterity, just in case. In response to this crisis - and since I dare not log into my accounts only to find that I've been affected - I'll expand those records to include my entire history on Neopets. Then I'm taking myself off the site for good.I'll still hang around Jellyneo though, just for the nostalgia.At least there'll be something to fill the void - Zoombinis, my favourite game from childhood, is being re-released for tablets on August 6th.

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 5:48 AM NST Update? I think the coding of the site is being changed! Not sure if it's neo changing it/ a hacker tampering with it! But now just below the nav bar there is a white bar I'd say 300ish px tall that spans the screen. In the left hand corner of this bar there is a text area with x and y scrolls and a broken image. The background of this textarea is grey. Is this appearing to anyone else or just me?

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 5:48 AM NST Oooh they fixed the image now and it is blue with a gold ornamentation?

pikasuno , July 17, 2015 5:49 AM NST



You've Won!!

Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!



0 Neopoints



Doesn't seem to be working properly It's got the game nowYou've Won!!Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!0 NeopointsDoesn't seem to be working properly

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 5:51 AM NST Haha! Awesome that the daily is up - hopefully since they are working on this it means that the hacker/cg/whatever it was is fixed? Also before activating. They need to fix that textarea though and make this so it doesn't appear on every page. :k It's a bit annoying plus I'm super paranoid so I was like Am I being hacked??? Until it showed up on every neo page I had open.

spabl , July 17, 2015 5:51 AM NST



Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!



















0 Neopoints

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Me too! You've Won!!Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!0 Neopoints-----Me too!

mistyraider , July 17, 2015 5:55 AM NST And on my screen it is small and while I can see an X to eliminate it, I can't see a button to make it big enough to see the whole screen.



Or is this just one more example of how inept I am at the mechanics of computers?

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 5:56 AM NST @mistyraider no they just have failed right now. ;~; I think this is a glitch, I don't think we were even supposed to see it yet. At first the image was even broken. It sort of lightened my mood though XD at least they are doing something and you can see it? Just not sure whether they know we can see it or not yet

pikasuno , July 17, 2015 5:57 AM NST No, you're right, I have to scroll around within a tiny window to see it all. I imagine this is all just temporary, but like, maybe test it before making it live

duckywucky - JN Staff , July 17, 2015 6:00 AM NST



Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!

0 Neopoints





It should disappear, but it won't You've Won!!Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!0 NeopointsIt should disappear, but it won't

mistyraider , July 17, 2015 6:02 AM NST



like the internal combustion engine, computer technology is one of the mysteries of my life.



burning shadows, I still hope to see you here. I always like your take on things and general calm, thoughtful responses. I'm not quite ready to give up neopets, but I understand! Now it's full size. But did I do something while mousing around, or did it just re-set itself.like the internal combustion engine, computer technology is one of the mysteries of my life.burning shadows, I still hope to see you here. I always like your take on things and general calm, thoughtful responses. I'm not quite ready to give up neopets, but I understand!

magic5 , July 17, 2015 6:04 AM NST The machine is now fully visible, but still doesn't awarding nps, doesn't want to disapper also link to FAQ doesn't work. I want it to work properly so I can keep restocking. :K

draakonikihv , July 17, 2015 6:04 AM NST A gift that keeps on not giving

mistyraider , July 17, 2015 6:04 AM NST thanks kayla!

zaygir , July 17, 2015 6:06 AM NST It's not just you because I played and now every single page I go to it just keeps appearing. Like some obnoxious mosquito you've batted away 100 times before.

phenixia , July 17, 2015 6:06 AM NST It pops up for me too this morning at the snowager. And I won 0 np.

beyondelsewhere , July 17, 2015 6:06 AM NST You've Won!!



Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!

0 Neopoints





Wow! 0 neopoints! Best prize ever! I had to log in on Firefox to get it to work. It was only a corner of an image in Chrome. Now it won't go away on either browser. Sigh.

morganjoisle , July 17, 2015 6:07 AM NST Hmm, might wait a bit to see if it'll work better before I play. Well, without having clicked to try out the daily, it appears as if it - well, not sure on it working or not. It just showed up when I was loading my inventory page, and at first I was startled and didn't get the chance to be fully terrified for the safety of my account and that something terrible had happened before it fully loaded.Hmm, might wait a bit to see if it'll work better before I play.

topaz644 , July 17, 2015 6:09 AM NST IT WONT GO AWAY!!!



omg lol

starazon , July 17, 2015 6:10 AM NST I spun it...then it loaded for me to spin again... i changed pages... it loaded... It doesn't go away... my advice if you haven't spun... wait a bit.

mistyraider , July 17, 2015 6:13 AM NST I like the look of it -- bright and fun. And if it gave nps that would be cool. Right now all it gives is LAG!



If JS was a tv sitcom about an inept company trying to get a kids online site to work, this might be funny.

phenixia , July 17, 2015 6:14 AM NST It'S apperaing in everypages! And I can spin it again and again. I won nothing, but I can do it once for each my daily.

topaz644 , July 17, 2015 6:15 AM NST I'll give them some time to fine tune the code but if they don't I'm going to have to block it because I can't play like this.

foxlover , July 17, 2015 6:16 AM NST You've Won!!

Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!



0 Neopoints

^W...what?

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 6:20 AM NST Annnnnnd it's gone haha XD

lunaxporch , July 17, 2015 6:33 AM NST Thank Fyora, that was annoying.

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 6:38 AM NST Okay I have a question though, has the hacking stopped and is it safe to go on the boards again? Or is it still going on?



I have been avoiding the boards and shops and everything that isn't the site's content exclusively

morganjoisle , July 17, 2015 6:43 AM NST @kaylaneopets: I don't think the hacking's stopped, or at least haven't stopped being paranoid.



And there - well, there were people's sides and such getting hacked, and people who mentioned there was no possible way that they could have been CG'ed being hacked.



At present: I'd say it's still better to be safe than sorry - but on the same hand, we're all being paranoid. There's hardly anything that we can do about this, and it's stopping people from enjoying the site.



Shops probably aren't as likely to get us hacked as everybody's paranoid about, so you'll probably be safe. But I still am extremely weary and cautious about neopets right now.

topaz644 , July 17, 2015 6:45 AM NST kaylaneopets: no one can give that assurance. You can be safer all the time though. Read JN's article on account safety

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 7:03 AM NST Thank you! I'll stay off for now then and try to keep my actual username as unknown as possible for the moment so that I won't be targeted.





@topaz thank you! I have read that before haha c: I am already very paranoid almost all the time. I never click on userlookups and only go on neo in incognito so as not to store cookies haha when I /need/ to see a petlookup or a petpage I do it in a different browser that I don't go on neo on. XD I am quite paranoid as it is. I just usually go on the boards but now it doesn't even seem safe to do that

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 7:03 AM NST Thank you! I'll stay off for now then and try to keep my actual username as unknown as possible for the moment so that I won't be targeted.





@topaz thank you! I have read that before haha c: I am already very paranoid almost all the time. I never click on userlookups and only go on neo in incognito so as not to store cookies haha when I /need/ to see a petlookup or a petpage I do it in a different browser that I don't go on neo on. XD I am quite paranoid as it is. I just usually go on the boards but now it doesn't even seem safe to do that

sanityisoverrated , July 17, 2015 7:45 AM NST I was just looking at source coding for a guild page and found a little blurb about Trudy hidden in the source code:



A strange feeling nagged Trudy, a curious Ixi, for days. A forewarning of doom perhaps, she thought. Soon after, on one of her long, solitary walks that spanned the length and breadth of Neopia, something strange happened. She heard an unusual rustle in the bushes. Curious, she took a peek. Hidden among the bushes was a slot machine! �Ka-ching, ka-ching,� it seemed to whisper. Trudy hesitated only for a moment before she succumbed to its call. She pressed the button on the machine, unsure of what she may unleash. To her amazement, she was awarded Neopoints. Trudy fell to the ground and cried with joy. She could finally afford a fancy frock for the ball.



From then on, Trudy took more walks, hoping luck would smile upon her again. And it did. She discovered she could play the machine once every day to win prizes. With each consecutive day, the number of Neopoints awa

sanityisoverrated , July 17, 2015 7:46 AM NST With each consecutive day, the number of Neopoints awarded increased. Occasionally, the machine was extra generous and gave her a Gift Box. On the 25th day of playing, she won a phenomenal number of Neopoints!<br><br>



After 25 days, things changed, leaving Trudy puzzled. This FAQ helped her make sense of everything, though.



Sorry for the cutoff.



So apparently she's an ixi. 0.0

aperkins2189 , July 17, 2015 7:54 AM NST All of you who have posted about the machine... are you all Premium members?

kaylaneopets , July 17, 2015 7:59 AM NST I am not a premium user. c:



Also it seems as though all display block codes are no longer working! This has destroyed my user lookup and my pet lookups ;~;

dave - JN Staff , July 17, 2015 8:50 AM NST Looks like this will be released soon! We'll keep you posted with more info as we get it.

elvenfaery , July 17, 2015 9:51 AM NST

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Sarcasm? I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about; I detected and responded with no such thing myself. *blink blink*



Wow, this phantom slot machine sounds like it might house a distant cousin of the Oracle. Or Trudy is more shallow than most. Or both.

I kind of like the depth of the blurb and the introduction of the FAQ, though. So apparently I was the only one who got the hint of sarcasm in a0r10n's string-of-cute-dancing-bears message---Sarcasm? I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about; I detected and responded with no such thing myself. *blink blink*Wow, this phantom slot machine sounds like it might house a distant cousin of the Oracle. Or Trudy is more shallow than most. Or both.I kind of like the depth of the blurb and the introduction of the FAQ, though.

stormcat , July 17, 2015 10:00 AM NST Hey I actually look forward to this feature. Sometimes I need an incentive to have me check the site every day, and this is definitely one. I just hope it doesn't cause the economy to skyrocket

herdy - JN Staff , July 17, 2015 12:00 PM NST Gosh, that blurb sounds quite awful XD

illusionshadow_s , July 17, 2015 12:08 PM NST i don't see it?

nick - JN Staff , July 17, 2015 12:27 PM NST I agree. That was painful to read... and even worse to imagine.

mistyraider , July 17, 2015 1:53 PM NST ^ Lets hear it for English teachers. They try so hard and some students just don't get it! *nodding head at Nick and Herdy!*

a0r10n , July 17, 2015 2:06 PM NST



As for PW security, the most secure password you can make would be the longest and most random you can make. I would link to an image, but... Don't want to attract attention.



And cute bears. Have lots of bears, squirrels, and other critters in your PW. And a moose.

It helps. Haha. They need storytellers. This looks like something the ad team came up with.As for PW security, the most secure password you can make would be the longest and most random you can make. I would link to an image, but... Don't want to attract attention.And cute bears. Have lots of bears, squirrels, and other critters in your PW. And a moose.It helps.

a0r10n , July 17, 2015 2:14 PM NST Nothing's centered now. Furthermore, this failed attempt at a daily seems to have broken the CSS for the Premium toolbar.Nothing's centered now.

parody_ham , July 17, 2015 2:33 PM NST That was physically painful to read.



Part of the joy in having new dailies is figuring out what they do. You don't /tell/ your players exactly how it works. *facepalm* Methinks they're too used to writing blurbs for five-year-olds.

elvenfaery , July 17, 2015 2:35 PM NST Ha, I really want to clarify that I do not care for the content of the blurb, just, I don't know, the idea behind it, I guess.

So, points from me for trying, but... eep.

herdy - JN Staff , July 17, 2015 2:38 PM NST "I'm just here walking across the thousands of miles of Neopia as a leisurely stroll. Oh, a slot machine. I wonder what this slot machine could award, keeping in mind that most slot machines award money of some description? Oh, it awards Neopoints? That is so totally unexpected I will collapse in shock and joy! Now I can buy a dress and look pretty which is totally my life goal I've never mentioned before."



I think they must have read AotA before writing this.

elvenfaery , July 17, 2015 2:45 PM NST Yeah, I can see your point there, parody_ham.

It's not necessary to explain, especially for something as simple as this looks to be.

I think that helps me put a finger in what I like about it, though. It's a little more context than most dailies have, and even if it's totally unneeded, it's an interesting approach.

It's still pretty simple though, which is what makes its shortcomings that much more painful. And yeah, it doesn't need to explain how it works, just maybe give a plausible excuse for its random existence in Neopia.

a0r10n , July 17, 2015 2:56 PM NST We have a prehistoric society, a hyper-advanced space station, mass production without industrialization, a steampunk society (while none in Neopia have electricity), an orbiting station that creates random events, moon colonialisation, parallel worlds, science AND magic, a magical oracle that likes to see people fight, faeries, and the ability to change any species into any other species. But not a land of jelly. That would be just ridiculous.

a0r10n , July 17, 2015 2:57 PM NST TL;DR We don't even need an explanation. It exists. Give me mah neopoints!

chachaboobie , July 17, 2015 3:06 PM NST I downloaded some Windows Updates earlier today that were released by Microsoft on July 14th. Since doing that and restarting my computer, I'm now having problems on Neopets. But, I was not on the site much today except to collect Bank Interest. And I highly doubt that these problems/glitches have to do with the IE9 updates; I'm not having issues on Jellyneo or other Websites. I'm highly suspicious that the failed implementation and removal of this new Daily Slot Machine has created these problems; JS IT Staff probably has stepped on coding when they backed out this new Slot Machine mess. The problems I've noticed is that I cannot access the Premium Toolbar at all; I normally keep it turned off and only turn it on when I use specific Premium Toolbar options. There are other pages that have things that are no longer aligned the way they were before. The worst page that is completely messed up and broken for my IE9 is the Battledome page. I did go into Chrome and it se

chachaboobie , July 17, 2015 3:39 PM NST I just realized after I sent in a Ticket on Neopets about the various IE9 issues I've listed here, that the Premium Toolbar is actually showing up, but it no longer floats near the bottom of my screne. If I turn it on the Premium Bar, to see it and use any of the functions, I have to scroll down to the bottom of any page that I'm on. Some of the Premium Toolbar functions come up and are not aligned/centered the way they were previously.

chachaboobie , July 17, 2015 3:48 PM NST Based on their horrendous reputation for poorly coding the entire Neopets site, it was a very, VERY BAD idea to try to incorporate this new Daily so that the function would pop up on any site page. They should designed it to show up on a specific page; either the Main Site Page after we logon or the Bank Account page since most people will at least collect their Daily Bank Interest if they logon to the site at all.

a0r10n , July 17, 2015 3:48 PM NST I dusted off the ol' IE.. 7? Anyways, what you say is true. I suggest switching browsers. IE has a long and rich history of not being compatible. On Firefox, some of the pages have text that's no longer centered. Looks nice, actually.

chachaboobie , July 17, 2015 4:45 PM NST The cost of Version Control Software pays for itself over time, especially when you have programmers that are so incompetant that they cannot backout their newly botched changes without stepping on the old code and messing things up so badly. So much for hoping that that IT Management for JS would be better and have higher standards for the software they develop and maintain.

cat , July 17, 2015 4:50 PM NST You know, the last time I heard about a slot machine stalking anyone like that it was in that one episode of The Twilight Zone :p



The explanation is pretty long, usually the explanation for dailies is just "oh this random thing is here and click this button".

elvenfaery , July 17, 2015 6:44 PM NST Hmm, cat, I wonder if that's part of what seems familiar about this to me... Not that I've seen many episodes of The Twilight Zone, but those I have, I don't really remember clearly, so hmm. :p

sanityisoverrated , July 17, 2015 8:25 PM NST



Since I frequent the NC chat and those NC'ers are always complaining about being boxless, I was pretty happy.



Ok, and maybe I did squeal a wee bit when I saw she was an ixi.



I own quite a hoard of them myself, so... The sad thing is that I didn't care about the bad writing when I realized what it was, I cared more about the fact that Trudy got a "gift box" (which I'm assuming is a NEOCASH gift box) from the machine.Since I frequent the NC chat and those NC'ers are always complaining about being boxless, I was pretty happy.Ok, and maybe I did squeal a wee bit when I saw she was an ixi.I own quite a hoard of them myself, so...

lunaxporch , July 18, 2015 12:02 AM NST I won 0 np again. Not a fan thus far and oh my gosh that window is huge.

loveisafireescape , July 18, 2015 12:05 AM NST It's back! And... it's still broken, I think.

magic5 , July 18, 2015 12:08 AM NST Still broken and very annoying, I really hope this machine won't be spamming us wole weekend.

jenna_bear8d , July 18, 2015 12:08 AM NST I've won SO MUCH. A WHOLE 0 NP, every two seconds!

photomanbc , July 18, 2015 12:13 AM NST It seems to be Back and won't Go Away after I spun, and it's still Broken.

magic5 , July 18, 2015 12:14 AM NST It's gone for me again. XD

duckywucky - JN Staff , July 18, 2015 12:26 AM NST At least today it disappeared after the spin

jmo7692 , July 18, 2015 12:27 AM NST I won 2k from it just now.

magic5 , July 18, 2015 12:29 AM NST And it's WORKING! I got 400 nps and Basic Gift Box.

duckywucky - JN Staff , July 18, 2015 12:29 AM NST ...I TAKE IT BACK! IT CAME BACK.



Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!

2000 Neopoints

haybales , July 18, 2015 12:31 AM NST Here�s something to cheer you up � the Terrifyingly Bad Luck Bonus!

Congratulations! You�ve won

4000 Neopoints



Neat! (:

lunaxporch , July 18, 2015 12:34 AM NST Ugh! Rotten luck.



Here�s something to cheer you up � the Terrifyingly Bad Luck Bonus!

Congratulations! You�ve won

4000 Neopoints *Rescinds prior complaining.*

yekith , July 18, 2015 12:37 AM NST 2k and a gift box, nice!

kandikatze , July 18, 2015 12:39 AM NST Umm... What do we do about our side accounts?



I can perfectly ignore other dailies, but I'd rather not close this huge intrusive box every single page, LOL.

a0r10n , July 18, 2015 12:40 AM NST IT'S WORKING, IT'S WORKING!

I've never been so excited to see something WORK for a change! They need to do this again. And better.

illusionshadow_s , July 18, 2015 12:50 AM NST so i just got 2000np from this

yekith , July 18, 2015 12:58 AM NST I was also wondering about sides. Cause I'm sure we can't play in those but...how do we get rid of that giant thing? I see nothing to close it. :/



Also, my user lookup got messed up.

cat , July 18, 2015 12:59 AM NST I also just got 2000 NP from this.



As for sides, I think maybe you can just close/ignore it? It's kind of a pain in that regard, I'd rather it were on a specific page like other dailies though.

inkpot , July 18, 2015 1:03 AM NST hmmm.... they need a perma-close option w/ a "are you sure?" prompt so that we can browse the site on our sites without the annoyance.

terrie77 , July 18, 2015 1:03 AM NST just went and collected my bank interest, and Trudys surprise loaded, I spun and won 2000 nps and a basic gift box :o)

inkpot , July 18, 2015 1:04 AM NST **sides



also i kinda like that it's a ~popup/dropdown~, bcause then i won't ever forget to spin. :'D

but if the easiest way to fix it is to slap it on it's own page i won't complain.

cat , July 18, 2015 1:07 AM NST There's a little x in the top right corner. It's a bit subtle - lighter blue than the background, but it's definitely there.



The only problem is it doesn't take the hint: if you close it and then load another page it loads right there on top of it too, whereas if you do it it will go away for the rest of the day.



Ugh, I hope the extra script to check if your account has done this daily yet EVERY TIME YOU CLICK won't add lag to the site.

cat , July 18, 2015 1:10 AM NST @terrie77 :o A basic gift box... Wow. The NC is going to love this. I wonder what other prizes this gives out.

mistyraider , July 18, 2015 2:39 AM NST Ugh! Rotten luck.

Here�s something to cheer you up � the Terrifyingly Bad Luck Bonus!

Congratulations! You�ve won 4000 Neopoints



I like that kind of rotten luck!

mistyraider , July 18, 2015 3:25 AM NST I don't think of myself as a mean person, so why do the editorials, since Droplet left, bug the heck out of me? They are informative. They get into the spirit of the neopets world, lots of references to meepits (maybe too many?). They really are kind of clever. She might even be making it her own with the paper airplane references (I don't remember if Droplet used them). Am I just looking for an excuse not to like them because it's not TNT that was?



I guess it kinda feels like she and the rest of the writing team are trying too hard. WHO is writing the Daily Puzzle Q's? And what's with the prizes that have nothing to do with pet days? Eh, I'm probably just a mean person who can't take change!

biggerhips , July 18, 2015 3:37 AM NST Good morning! It is on all the pages I try to visit right now! (UK 11:37am 18/7/51)

biggerhips , July 18, 2015 3:39 AM NST Once played, it does go away! I don't think I could put up with this everyday though...

cloonshannagh , July 18, 2015 3:53 AM NST Tarla is an Ixi.

Both Trudy and Tarla like to travel.

Trudy and Tarla must be related.



JS is trying! *clap*



(My kiddies already spent their nps in non-existant Jelly World.)



The Garlic Kiko doesn't have a bandage, either. So that isn't total heresy. However Eventide needs the hint of one.

Woodland does have a flower topknot. But, I do miss the curl on the Eventide.

Eventide does seem to have "gloves". but little Woodland needs a slightly darker paw for his to show.

(Slowly we develop and learn the lore of Neopia.) Trudy is an Ixi.Tarla is an Ixi.Both Trudy and Tarla like to travel.Trudy and Tarla must be related.JS is trying! *clap*(My kiddies already spent their nps in non-existant Jelly World.)The Garlic Kiko doesn't have a bandage, either. So that isn't total heresy. However Eventide needs the hint of one.Woodland does have a flower topknot. But, I do miss the curl on the Eventide.Eventide does seem to have "gloves". but little Woodland needs a slightly darker paw for his to show.(Slowly we develop and learn the lore of Neopia.)

sab - JN Staff , July 18, 2015 4:19 AM NST I hope I get that Gift Box next time. I'm running low.

topaz644 , July 18, 2015 4:35 AM NST I think the gift box idea is wonderful and overdue but they should have learned by now that giveaways need to be on a dedicated page because of Side accounts.

nemi , July 18, 2015 4:36 AM NST

Here�s something to cheer you up � the Terrifyingly Bad Luck Bonus!

Congratulations! You�ve won



4000 Neopoints

Basic Gift Box



Yay! Ugh! Rotten luck.Here�s something to cheer you up � the Terrifyingly Bad Luck Bonus!Congratulations! You�ve won4000 NeopointsBasic Gift BoxYay!

sincerelyme37 , July 18, 2015 5:32 AM NST It works now! I won 2,000 np for the first day!

shakespeareofborg , July 18, 2015 5:44 AM NST And no gift box. I got the bad luck bonus and only got 400npsAnd no gift box.

invader_of_worlds , July 18, 2015 6:26 AM NST I got 2k in points and no boxes. That was fun though.

lasimone1981 , July 18, 2015 7:41 AM NST I got 200 nps and a gift box...pretty cool

kaylaneopets , July 18, 2015 7:54 AM NST ;~; going... through... side account...withdrawal... asdfadfasdfasdfa

pancaketime , July 18, 2015 8:15 AM NST On IE, it's not properly displaying (it's a big blue box), and it's not going away. I think it's automatically playing, too, and awarded me points more than once. So, careful, I guess?

pancaketime , July 18, 2015 8:21 AM NST Closing it with the X in the corner also does not make it go away on IE. Don't think there's anything that can be done other than switching browsers, for now.

morganjoisle , July 18, 2015 9:12 AM NST @a0r10n and everyone else on the story: At first I didn't think the intro was that bad. The thing about the ball just popped in there out of nowhere, but it had a nice ex-Treasure Keepers sort of vibe to it I guess? lol ... Okay, I've probably read so many weird things lately that I just stop noticing when neo-stuff isn't 'high quality' anymore. :-/



Or else that I'm just not reading it with a very critical eye. It didn't come off to me as something absolutely horrible or anything like that. And the grammar in it isn't that bad. I mean, compared to what the news has been (no wonder I hardly read it anymore), the grammar is not that bad. xP

morganjoisle , July 18, 2015 9:55 AM NST @a0r10n: Maybe it was broken earlier, but today it seems to be back to the normal positioning with the buttons and such.



@herdy: *rolls on the floor laughing* *applauds* I wish to express both that they should replace any of the remaining non-coding staff members with you, and that of 'oh, God, Atlas of the Ancients'. *claps in applause for the sentiments within your comment* You're an amazing writer, and you put things in the best possible light. lol

morganjoisle , July 18, 2015 10:06 AM NST



@a0r10n: We have faerie magic. Faerie magic's like electricity. 0:-)

... Good comment, good comment. *applauds for you*



Also lol, your next comment was really good too.



@chachaboobie: My toolbar is working alright for me today, but I use Mozilla Firefox. And it also is something that might've gotten fixed between now and then and I just haven't read that far down in comments yet. Either way, Herdy is amazing.@a0r10n: We have faerie magic. Faerie magic's like electricity. 0:-)... Good comment, good comment. *applauds for you*Also lol, your next comment was really good too.@chachaboobie: My toolbar is working alright for me today, but I use Mozilla Firefox. And it also is something that might've gotten fixed between now and then and I just haven't read that far down in comments yet.

morganjoisle , July 18, 2015 10:12 AM NST



@kandikatze: Ohhhhhhh, goodness. Good point. Fortunately for me I fed my pets up to bloated recently and so I can avoid logging on there for a few more days, but there doesn't seem to be any good sort of long-term solution for this issue. @sanityisoverrated: Well, this is something that's going to lose them money over time, and something that Nickelodeon never would have done. *shrugs shoulders* Then again, since we still can't redeem NC cards, this is something that'll distract the NC chat for now, and is probably good overall. *shrugs*@kandikatze: Ohhhhhhh, goodness. Good point. Fortunately for me I fed my pets up to bloated recently and so I can avoid logging on there for a few more days, but there doesn't seem to be any good sort of long-term solution for this issue.

mryac , July 18, 2015 10:16 AM NST if they don't want me getting junk on my side account than don't make me need a friggin side account.



i created it because i wanted more pets and they weren't going to help me do that otherwise, so if they are literally going to force me to redeem stuff when i log in it is their fault not mine.

morganjoisle , July 18, 2015 10:17 AM NST



... Would be nice if we got some news about all the people hacked as of late, too. *sighs*

And checked the news features and time to see what this reminder board actually says on it. lol



*sighs* Have they actually fixed this whole fiasco, though? Like, I feel as if they might well have gotten hacked into. I should check Charter and see what the news is about all of this... it's just weird that it was so wide-scale of people who didn't seem like they could have been cookie-grabbed getting their accounts stolen. @cat: Oh, goodness. Good point about the lag. lol... Would be nice if we got some news about all the people hacked as of late, too. *sighs*And checked the news features and time to see what this reminder board actually says on it. lol*sighs* Have they actually fixed this whole fiasco, though? Like, I feel as if they might well have gotten hacked into. I should check Charter and see what the news is about all of this... it's just weird that it was so wide-scale of people who didn't seem like they could have been cookie-grabbed getting their accounts stolen.

morganjoisle , July 18, 2015 10:20 AM NST @mryac: My only recommendation for that type of thing is to spin and donate the neopoints until things get better. NC boxes are an NC thing, so those should be fine to keep.



Like, this is a special situation, and if they freeze you for it, it isn't your fault. :K



Ulgh, just... The Jumpstart Team these days. *sighs and shrugs shoulders* Not much I can do, except recommend the general rules of thumb for people who have to log onto their side accounts, and for those who can avoid it to procrastinate for a couple of days.



Chances are, we won't hear more news from TNT on it, though. :-/

morganjoisle , July 18, 2015 10:34 AM NST @mistyraider: I personally appreciate this editorial. After getting a generic response back from Rico again, lol, my rant got accepted into the editorial. *sighs* Well, I know the writing style is different... but this week's actually got answers to serious questions. That whole on on the BC entries was something that I have heard serious concern about on the Charter before, and something that I'm glad they've finally taken the steps to clarify.



In terms of things, I'm glad that there are serious answers to concerns in the editorial this week. Everything seems to be about fixing issues, and I like that at least it's that type of thing.

rosi , July 18, 2015 11:30 AM NST Considering he's just as hot tempered as me, we've both quite annoyed by this silly automatic daily. Oh dung! It's the birthday of one of my side account's pets and I can't give him the birthday cupcake!Considering he's just as hot tempered as me, we've both quite annoyed by this silly automatic daily.

rosi , July 18, 2015 12:06 PM NST Ok, so I logged into my main and the big ugly frame appeared, but it awarded me the 2000 nps after I actually pressed the spin button, so maybe it's fixed now and we don't need to worry about logging into our side accounts

herdy - JN Staff , July 18, 2015 12:15 PM NST @rosi: Did you visit another page before spinning? It works so that the NP is awarded for visiting the page, so on the next page the NP total should increase without spinning.

rosi , July 18, 2015 12:58 PM NST Ah, no I didn't.. and I was delusional.

Thank you for clarifying.

inkpot , July 18, 2015 1:08 PM NST y'all are missing out i had no idea anyone even still uses IE.y'all are missing out

foxlover , July 18, 2015 1:15 PM NST I never want to spend time on my side accounts again...so annoying.

foxlover , July 18, 2015 1:18 PM NST oh, and this also makes mobile Neo basically impossible to use. I always do my zapping on my phone first thing when I wake up, but I can't scroll or zoom in/out anywhere on the daily, and I can't click to spin either, so it's pretty much just luck if I manage to click what I need to click.

pancaketime , July 18, 2015 2:14 PM NST Based on poking around again in IE, it isn't awarding additional NP or prizes, but you can't spin it so it doesn't go away. You always have a big blue box at the top of the page, and certain dailies (Kiko Pop, Negg Cave, Grave Danger) and the BD are unplayable due to the way it distorts the page. It also causes things that were previously centered to align to the left.

cat , July 18, 2015 2:52 PM NST @mistyraider - I don't have a problem with the new editorials. The main difference, other than the writing and humor styles being slightly different is that we're not seeing so many of those "pointless" questions that always use to bug people about the editorial. Maybe there's still room for improvement, but Country Queen's only been doing the editorial for a few weeks now.



I also had no idea people still used IE. Anyway, the thing seems to work fine on Firefox, and as of last night at least on Firefox it isn't automatically awarding prizes just for seeing it, so it's safe on sides.



The initial amount does seem a tad high for a daily that's going to have increasing amounts every day though.

josh_m , July 18, 2015 3:32 PM NST http://www.neopets.com/petlookup.phtml?pet=Spayara



*waits to get my main back*

gamer_5_55_555 , July 18, 2015 3:55 PM NST It depends on how much NP they give out. Wheels were ok because they were balanced.



We have had dailies and easy 3K a day from games like Whack a Kass for a very long time. They're a bit ridiculous, but they're a very deep part of Neopets.



If the NP rewards start at 2K though, it's a bit worrisome.

kaylaneopets , July 18, 2015 4:12 PM NST You still auto earn on firefox ;~; Just made a board in help chat to confirm what you said about it not but multiple users logged into their sides via firefox and still got auto rewarded.

herdy - JN Staff , July 18, 2015 4:31 PM NST @cat: it still is and Firefox isn't immune. You have to visit an additional page to see the NP total go up, it doesn't auto update on the page you are on.

mistyraider , July 18, 2015 5:02 PM NST @ cat & morgan ~ there is nothing wrong with the editorials, I can see that, which is why I have determined I am just a critical person who finds fault . . . or maybe it was really too early this morning and I should have gotten a cup of coffee before running off my mouth, er fingers.



I do hope they clarify what to do with side accounts, otherwise there are going to be a lot of starving pets (or broken rules).

rosi , July 18, 2015 5:06 PM NST @Herdy: thank you once again for verifying this on Firefox and telling us.

@Josh: thank you for the Darigan Pteri avatar notice.

I'm very sorry you got hacked and I hope you'll get your main account back soon.

katyacollections , July 18, 2015 5:14 PM NST



no matches = 4 different icons = bad luck bonus Dat guide tho.no matches = 4 different icons = bad luck bonus

a0r10n , July 18, 2015 6:01 PM NST What should I compare this to... Overly attached daily, perhaps?



I've checked, and on Chrome, it still auto-gives. And it never. Goes. AWAY. I've X'ed out at least five times! This IS an issue.

I wish there was an official method to just mark an account as a side. It would prevent the earning of Neopoints & give easier access from your other accounts & have higher security & be better bookkeeping. Really should be done.

starleogirl09 , July 18, 2015 7:47 PM NST I have no idea what I won... all I have on my screen is a big white box pop-up that won't go away!

starleogirl09 , July 18, 2015 7:49 PM NST Never mind! I went to another page and it now showed me that I won 2k. No more white box!

majacal , July 19, 2015 12:07 AM NST Not too sure what is going on, but I only got 2 matching symbols and received 3k. In your guide, it states that I needed 4. Hmmm.....



It was the gift box with usul symbol.

majacal , July 19, 2015 12:09 AM NST After looking at it better, I realised there were 4 not just on the same row. Ok....forget that last post.After looking at it better, I realised there were 4 not just on the same row.

illusionshadow_s , July 19, 2015 12:14 AM NST day 2, 2 matching pics, got 3000k



must be the consecutive days bonus



no gift box

majacal , July 19, 2015 12:23 AM NST D'oh. Yea, 2nd day bonus.



JN's guide put me off as it states the symbols don't have to appear in a row to count. But it only matched the 2 that were in the row.

utopus , July 19, 2015 12:48 AM NST I'm pretty sure the actual symbols that get matched bear some importance as well

terrie77 , July 19, 2015 2:16 AM NST same as illusionshadow :o)

nick - JN Staff , July 19, 2015 6:02 AM NST No matches for the 2nd day... 2500 NP.

rosi , July 19, 2015 6:08 AM NST

a0r10n, 07/18/2015, 6:01 pm NST



I wish there was an official method to just mark an account as a side. It would prevent the earning of Neopoints & give easier access from your other accounts & have higher security & be better bookkeeping. Really should be done. ]



---

That was exactly what we wrote in that survey right after Jumpstart acquisition: a way to flag your accounts as sides, so as to automatically disable certain areas of the site.

Still, well over a year has passed and it seems like it went unnoticed [Quotea0r10n, 07/18/2015, 6:01 pm NSTI wish there was an official method to just mark an account as a side. It would prevent the earning of Neopoints & give easier access from your other accounts & have higher security & be better bookkeeping. Really should be done. ]---That was exactly what we wrote in that survey right after Jumpstart acquisition: a way to flag your accounts as sides, so as to automatically disable certain areas of the site.Still, well over a year has passed and it seems like it went unnoticed

herdy - JN Staff , July 19, 2015 6:37 AM NST @utopus: not so far they don't, no, but we'll see if that changes in coming days.



@nick: bad luck twice in a row? Ouch :p

nick - JN Staff , July 19, 2015 8:18 AM NST



This is going to be a disaster. Can it really be considered bad luck if I get 2500 NP for doing absolutely nothing (and still losing)?This is going to be a disaster.

yodaheather , July 19, 2015 8:57 AM NST I don't get why so many are afraid of inflation. The past 6 months the majority of RS items have deflated to 1/5th of their former value. Most everything is majorly deflated now. Having more players login daily and getting more NPs to buy things should help the site. Do we prefer JS doesn't try anything? And it looks like the machine will give out NC boxes. Great! That should get more users participating in NC. More users involved with NP and NC is good for everybody. Most importante is JS earning enough revenue to fix all the issues, and improve the art.

astrophel , July 19, 2015 10:41 AM NST free nc that isn't impossible to get (i'm looking at you, expellibox) -- yay!



big intrusive popup that you can't get rid of when you're on a side -- tnt why

elvenfaery , July 19, 2015 11:34 AM NST



Foxlover, I agree with your assessment on mobile friendliness. It's not impossible, but very difficult and almost luck based to be able to use, especially on a smaller screen. I can scroll down and ignore the pop up for the most part, but I can't consistently zoom in on the navigation bar. People want more ease and accessibility; this is decidedly less. Mistyraider, I think I know exactly what you mean about the new Editorial. There's nothing really wrong with it, but I still sort of dislike it. It's like I'm prejudiced against CQ even though I know absolutely nothing about her and her history with Neo, other than she took over for Droplet, has plushies and a penchant for paper planes, and refers to herself in the first person an awful lot.Foxlover, I agree with your assessment on mobile friendliness. It's not impossible, but very difficult and almost luck based to be able to use, especially on a smaller screen. I can scroll down and ignore the pop up for the most part, but I can't consistently zoom in on the navigation bar. People want more ease and accessibility; this is decidedly less.

elvenfaery , July 19, 2015 11:47 AM NST And I'll echo the annoyance and frustration with the side account thing. I'd already assumed its lack of a dedicated page would make abuse all too easy (wasn't anticipating impossible to avoid), but not being able to hide it really affects things negatively.



And right now I can't even use the Boards at all if I wanted to, not that I planned on it even on a side at the moment. My main account is staying firmly out of the spotlight probably for a very long time.

cat , July 19, 2015 3:07 PM NST Well, from what Country Queen's said she's a long time player that up till now has been the head of the NC Mall based content, and now oversees the NT too. It's not like she's a new corporate drone that JumpStart just added to replace Droplet, rather as part of downsizing the staff they're trying to have one staff member do multiple jobs instead of having a staff member devoted to each job.



I won the terrifying bad luck bonus for Day 2:

5000 NP with no extras.

kaylaneopets , July 19, 2015 3:15 PM NST Sorry to post again :c



But is trudy still auto-awarding? I have a trade set up for one of my side accounts that we can't do until this stops. :/ Don't want to be frozen for logging into a side account

rosi , July 19, 2015 3:30 PM NST I have to miss my pet's birthday because of this @kaylaneopets: apparently she isI have to miss my pet's birthday because of this

cat , July 19, 2015 3:31 PM NST Yup.



At this point all you can really do is try to discard the excess NP. In situations like this I try to do so by buying unwanted items from the NPC shops and discarding them, so the NP awarded stays out of the economy, so the NP won't enter the economy via the money tree either. Fortunately since what she awards is set if you're not sure how much she gave you you can do the spin on your side to see how much you were given (she doesn't give you any additional for actually spinning the wheel) and discard accordingly. However it seems we'll all need to stay off sides for a while.

kaylaneopets , July 19, 2015 3:59 PM NST @Cat and Rosi



Thank you very much for the response :c this is very disheartening. Have a very exciting trade but both me and the other user are waiting for this to be fixed as to avoid being frozen.



Do you think this will be fixed tomorrow?

rosi , July 19, 2015 4:10 PM NST I'm afraid not, Kayla, as tomorrow is Monday and it seems like most of the staff isn't at the office on that day.. Updates for Mondays are posted very late, on Tuesday in my time zone.. All you and your friend have to do is to delay the trade

dave - JN Staff , July 19, 2015 4:14 PM NST The staff should be in the office tomorrow on Monday. There are no holidays in the US for tomorrow, so it should be normal business hours.



It'd be nice if they made the daily appear on its own page. That'd solve all the side account issues. :\

kaylaneopets , July 19, 2015 4:28 PM NST @Rosi



That's what we have decided to do up until now haha I'm just anxious to make the trade as it'll get me very close to my dream pet! *w*



@Dave



I'm hoping they'll do that too. D: You'd think it'd be pretty easy for them to do that though right? c: I just hope it gets fixed soon because I've missed my pets on my sides

purplebin , July 19, 2015 5:05 PM NST Did Neo suddenly go down? No pages are loading.

kaylaneopets , July 19, 2015 5:09 PM NST @purple



It was down for a second is back up now though! But Trudy is glitching and is appearing at the top of every page now regardless of whether or not you have already played. ;w;

purplebin , July 19, 2015 5:11 PM NST Yep, I clicked the play button again though and it's gone again. Didn't get more NP.

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:12 PM NST @yodaheather: Because the deflation is much easier to earn things in than the inflation we had before. Clear back when there were habitariums I had a good six to eight million neopoints, and all of the top items in neopia kept on inflating. Things were higher and harder to earn. With deflation, yes, the market has been higher for neopoints, and more people were selling things that were harder to get in recent years. But the point is that if you have the neopoints, you can buy a lot more with the neopoints you have. And even though neopoints are harder to earn, neopoints have never been super hard to earn.



Inflation makes neopets less fun than a little bit of deflation. Remember how we used to have neopoint sinks and questions in the editorials about ways to hinder the inflation?

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:21 PM NST



@yodaheather: I used to purposefully redeem NC cards on Petpet Park because I was sick of having so many NC gift boxes. For non-NC traders, they're kind of a useless item.



@elvenfaery: I take it the whole people getting hacked thing is still going on. I haven't gone to the money tree in the last couple of days to check, but do we know how bad it is right now? Like, has it improved/less people getting hacked? I'd like to do some more with my mall and stuff, but there's no way I'm going to other people's shops to buy stuff for it if we're still hugely rampant with people getting hacked. @nick: Can't wait for it to get worse. lol@yodaheather: I used to purposefully redeem NC cards on Petpet Park because I was sick of having so many NC gift boxes. For non-NC traders, they're kind of a useless item.@elvenfaery: I take it the whole people getting hacked thing is still going on.I haven't gone to the money tree in the last couple of days to check, but do we know how bad it is right now? Like, has it improved/less people getting hacked? I'd like to do some more with my mall and stuff, but there's no way I'm going to other people's shops to buy stuff for it if we're still hugely rampant with people getting hacked.

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:26 PM NST @cat: Oh, goodness. Idk, I know it's always taken a while for anything submitted to the times to get a reply back on, but I submitted a series back on July 3rd and haven't heard anything back on it. I know it's usual, but it feels like a long time for something I put so much effort into. *shrugs shoulders* Just been busy lately and time flying by, 'tis all. I am wondering, though, if she's really spread thin with all of the work going on, and if she's having trouble keeping up with everything.



@kaylaneopets: They aren't going to freeze you for logging onto your side account. Honestly, there's nothing you can even do about this, and in general it's something they'd only freeze you for if you're purposefully abusing it. Idk, I'd say to just donate the np. *sighs*

rosi , July 19, 2015 5:28 PM NST



@Dave: Thanks! I guess it's just a matter of time zone, then.



@Morgan: I only saw junk at the Money Tree. Did rare, expensive items appear before the last three days ? @Kayla: good luck for the trade!@Dave: Thanks! I guess it's just a matter of time zone, then.@Morgan: I only saw junk at the Money Tree. Did rare, expensive items appear before the last three days ?

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:29 PM NST @rosi: I'd say to just log on and collect the cupcakes. Honestly, with multiple account abuse, they made us go through similar with the lag prizes. This is something that they aren't doing anything to fix, it's interfering with people's everyday neo experience - if they don't do anything about this, they might as well just expect everyone to be able to rule-followingly long onto their side accounts DAILY AS PER USUAL. :K ... Sorry, just angry about this whole issue. Sorry to lash out.



Rosi, darling, I'd say that for something like your pet's birthday, it should be okay to log in on your side account to claim the cupcake.

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:31 PM NST I haven't returned to the money tree since, though, 'cause someone on the Shoutbox scared me into thinking that hackers could've found a way to CG the money tree. ROFL @rosi: Back on the 15th, when people were donating account's entire safety deposit boxes.I haven't returned to the money tree since, though, 'cause someone on the Shoutbox scared me into thinking that hackers could've found a way to CG the money tree. ROFL

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:34 PM NST



I think they usually recommend donating to the money tree, so that's why it's my (probably not the best recommendation with recent-chaos) but personal suggestion.



Otherwise if you're wanting it out of the economy, I'd say to treat your pets to a more expensive hotel and extras in the neolodge. *shrugs shoulders* It's an activity normally allowed on side accounts, so should probably be okay in this situation. @cat: There's actually a rule about not buying things from the main shops on your side accounts. Think it went back to people being restock-banned, but that's equally rule-breaking.I think they usually recommend donating to the money tree, so that's why it's my (probably not the best recommendation with recent-chaos) but personal suggestion.Otherwise if you're wanting it out of the economy, I'd say to treat your pets to a more expensive hotel and extras in the neolodge. *shrugs shoulders* It's an activity normally allowed on side accounts, so should probably be okay in this situation.

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:38 PM NST @kaylaneopets: From old editorials, - I just can't see them freezing you over this, especially when there's so much of this running rampant and so many things going on on neopets this weekend.



Like, when it comes to the point when we're all terrified to log onto side accounts because we don't want frozen for a daily being forced on us, regardless, because we just log on - like, honestly - is this a neopets really worth playing?



If you're going to be locked out of your account or risk being frozen - you're as bad as suspended already worrying about this whole fiasco. If you can't log onto your account when you've done nothing wrong because you're afraid of being frozen because of a DAILY we can't even prevent, why even play neopets? Idk, my vexed opinion.

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 5:40 PM NST That's my two neocash on this whole situation.



Like, if we can't log onto our accounts because we're afraid we'll be frozen for something as simple and rule-following as logging on, you might as well be frozen already. *shrugs shoulders*



@kaylaneopets: With all the broken code issues getting this to work in the first place, I do wonder about how easy it would actually be to fix.



They obviously didn't think it through very well when they were implementing it in the first place. *unsure*

rosi , July 19, 2015 5:53 PM NST @Morgan: Thank you for reassuring me. I'm still quite doubtful about what to do, though.. I guess I'll sleep it over and come back tomorrow before the Neopian midnight.

kaylaneopets , July 19, 2015 6:56 PM NST @Morgan



Thank you for the reassurance, yeah it is very frustrating. I don't understand how they thought it was good to just add an already glitching daily to the site and then abandon ship for the weekend. ;w; Unless they wanted us to be the guinea pigs it doesn't really make too much sense. Hopefully it'll be like what happened for the lag gifts and it'll all just smooth over like you are saying.

_avatar_tay_ , July 19, 2015 8:00 PM NST The whole Trudy thing is annoying. Since its a flash game that's I cannot acces to take it off and is now practically a souped up ad, she's reduced to being an inTRUDer. Her and Topsi are perfect for each other.

morganjoisle , July 19, 2015 9:45 PM NST @_avatar_tay_: If neopets were a dating site, I'd ship them. :K



You've got a very nice comment and train of thought there. lol Ulgh, I didn't think of how annoying Topsi was because, like, he didn't pop up every page. lol Idk, I think I mostly just ignored and avoided him. xP Also that I've never been much of one for the negg hunts, so this year's event didn't bother me as much as most users. (:



Ulgh, and with all the issues with flash security lately, that's another unpleasant thing to deal with.

recklesse , July 19, 2015 11:05 PM NST It's not like she's a new corporate drone that JumpStart just added to replace Droplet

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http://www.neopets.com/ntimes/index.phtml?section=editorial&week=686 - She says nothing there about being a long-time player. She doesn't actually say that she's been doing the NC Mall content for any length of time (could well be since March). I've seen people suggest she's the 'community manager' at JumpStart, which would mean she and the other staff truly have been spread very thin since the layoffs.

elvenfaery , July 19, 2015 11:37 PM NST

And despite that benefit of the doubt, as it were, I still have this unshakeable disdain when I read her Editorials, which really frustrates me about myself. Re: Country Queen, that's the thing... We know random bits of mostly superficial information on her (as has pretty much been true with most of TNT) which we then use to infer the rest, quite possibly erroneously. Even so, it's part of why I tend to hesitate to blame all of the recent issues on the current Team's newness. Yes, there's undoubtedly a lot of new blood, especially on the decision making and communication fronts, but that doesn't mean there aren't some people there with history of one sort or another.And despite that benefit of the doubt, as it were, I still have this unshakeable disdain when I read her Editorials, which really frustrates me about myself.

elvenfaery , July 19, 2015 11:40 PM NST Morganjoisle, I honestly have no idea how bad it still is, or if the massive onslaught is essentially over. All I know is I've been playing since early 2000 and have an unconverted 'pet. I've previously felt wary about drawing attention to myself, even in the best of times, but always figured I knew how to be safe. Not knowing what exactly the security issue was here, or how persistent those breaching accounts will continue to be, I'd rather just stay as anonymous as possible until I have several solid reasons to venture back into the light.

In the mean time, I'll use my side accounts. Speaking of which, I totally agree that we shouldn't worry too much about signing in if it's important. Just try to avoid it if you can until it's officially addressed.

star9837 , July 19, 2015 11:44 PM NST The best way to protect your account is to change the pw often. It does no good to have a complex pw if you use it for a year. Pws should be random and changed almost weekly for the best security measures. I would set an alarm on your phone or something to notify you when to change your pws. Of course you can do this monthly but with hacking becoming common I would change it often. There are ways to hack accounts that dont even require to know the pw. It's scary

illusionshadow_s , July 20, 2015 12:21 AM NST day 3 for me, 2 match, 5000 np, gift box

terrie77 , July 20, 2015 12:29 AM NST i also received (totally unrelated I'm sure ) a neoquest stamp in my inventory (now in my stamp album) for Neoquest 1 No, matches for me - 7,000i also received (totally unrelated I'm sure ) a neoquest stamp in my inventory (now in my stamp album) for Neoquest 1

_avatar_tay_ , July 20, 2015 1:08 AM NST My friends (the Plotters) and I were scared of Topsi. One girl said he reminded her of Springtrap from FNaF.

morganjoisle , July 20, 2015 1:10 AM NST @star9837: Oh heavens... Can you ... do you have a forums account here at JN? I'd request that you PM me about it, or, well - idk, that makes me extremely nervous.



Like, with how all of the account issues were where we hear of side accounts being hacked that hadn't had the possibility of even being cookie grabbed, this is one of those security things that I'd like to know more on.



It's something that I'd like to know the bitter facts on, but also one of those things where I understand that explaining over comments is something that everybody is nervous about.

morganjoisle , July 20, 2015 1:20 AM NST



Like, honestly, I know that changing all of your words frequently is really important and safe. But when it gets to the point where you HAVE to change your password every time the snowager is sleeping to feel that your account isn't going to get hacked, it's a really bad sign. @star9837: I understand that it's a good idea to change your password often. Looking at my password history, though, from where I keep things physically written down for my neopets account since December or so, it's gone from being changed a handful of times in a matter of months to changed every week to being changed three times in a matter of about a day. And looks to continue being changed multiple times daily in order to feel safe on my neopets account.Like, honestly, I know that changing all of your words frequently is really important and safe. But when it gets to the point where you HAVE to change your password every time the snowager is sleeping to feel that your account isn't going to get hacked, it's a really bad sign.

cat , July 20, 2015 1:25 AM NST Day 3: No matches: 4500 NP + a basic gift box, no bad luck bonus.

tama70406 , July 20, 2015 1:58 AM NST bad luck bonus was 7k

duckywucky - JN Staff , July 20, 2015 1:58 AM NST I got 5k.



And yes, I'd really really like to feed pets on my sides. And pound surf without it making me mad.



Just give it its own page . Pfffft.

cowboysaurus , July 20, 2015 2:34 AM NST I got Terrifyingly Bad Luck today...7000 NP!

mistyraider , July 20, 2015 3:49 AM NST elvenfaery ~ yeah, it's nothing I can put my finger on, just find I don't like CQ's editorials. and it brings up the thought, "critical much?" ironic look smilie!



Day 3 5000 nps. I'm still waiting for a gift box!

kic24 , July 20, 2015 4:53 AM NST What a horrible thing. I always play neopets on a tablet, and I cannot play this daily on my tablet, thus om every page I have that stupid screen and it takes a lot longer for every page to load. It exactly has the opposite effect now: I come online less frequent, due to that horrible pop-up.

marfbear , July 20, 2015 5:46 AM NST I'm having the same problem. You can't even spin it to close it out, so it comes up on every page.

yodaheather , July 20, 2015 6:46 AM NST



@morgan- Totally understand the overall disappointment. I just don't hate this daily, and they'll address the side account issue... eventually I'm going on my side until then *shrugs*

The heavy majority would enjoy more accessibility to NC boxes. Users getting free boxes now have more incentive to trade. Which creates more interest, and hopefully more sales to support the site. Worth a try.

JS is so under staffed now, lowering my expectations to save myself despair. Which would upset us more: lower quality or Neo closing? Yes, it sucks to decide. @kic24 & marfbear- Have you updated Shockwave lately on your tablets? Might help.@morgan- Totally understand the overall disappointment. I just don't hate this daily, and they'll address the side account issue... eventuallyI'm going on my side until then *shrugs*The heavy majority would enjoy more accessibility to NC boxes. Users getting free boxes now have more incentive to trade. Which creates more interest, and hopefully more sales to support the site. Worth a try.JS is so under staffed now, lowering my expectations to save myself despair. Which would upset us more: lower quality or Neo closing? Yes, it sucks to decide.

yodaheather , July 20, 2015 6:52 AM NST And regarding the economy-

I've noticed both The Forgotten Shore and the Battledome have been giving out less prizes for about 2 months.

Anyone else notice?

Maybe JS decidedly removed revenue from other dailies to offset the effects of this new daily.

kic24 , July 20, 2015 7:08 AM NST @yodaheather: it's an ipad, those do not support flash.

yodaheather , July 20, 2015 7:37 AM NST



Halp! Sorry kic. Maybe someone here with iPad knows how to get this new daily to close properly?Halp!

morganjoisle , July 20, 2015 8:42 AM NST You only need to spin it once, but you have to be able to spin it once each day. If you've got a house or roommate who it wouldn't inconvenient too much... Though I wouldn't recommend a library computer or any of that type of thing due to the security and such. I'm not sure what else to recommend, sorry, loves. @kic24 and yodaheather: My only suggestion would be to borrow the laptop of a friend or extended family member.You only need to spin it once, but you have to be able to spin it once each day. If you've got a house or roommate who it wouldn't inconvenient too much... Though I wouldn't recommend a library computer or any of that type of thing due to the security and such. I'm not sure what else to recommend, sorry, loves.

demi_ , July 20, 2015 8:54 AM NST I'd like to log onto my sides already. I don't want to risk earning NP on them. Hopefully JS addresses this today. They HAVE to realize it's kind of an issue.

dai , July 20, 2015 10:13 AM NST what's the point on clicking the button when it'll grant you the prize anyway?

purplebin , July 20, 2015 10:17 AM NST It only goes away if you click the button.

purplebin , July 20, 2015 10:24 AM NST @yodaheather, I have noticed a definite decrease in the amount of codestones, particularly the red ones, I've been getting from the battledome for about the past month. I thought for a while it was just a random decrease, but it's definitely ongoing with no days of plenty. I was able to train every few days before, and now I have to wait for weeks to get enough red codestones.

dai , July 20, 2015 10:24 AM NST yeah I noticed... It's a mandatory daily then

dlee316 , July 20, 2015 11:43 AM NST I am unable to play this daily on any of my Mac products (IMac, IPad, IPhone) with safari browser. I sent a ticket. Anyone else with the same issue?

ablivine , July 20, 2015 2:44 PM NST that's probably because it requires flash, I recommend the puffin browser. you can download it on the app store, im unsure about imac and iphone but ipad, yes @dlee316

ablivine , July 20, 2015 2:46 PM NST ((puffin browser automatically comes with flash, it lags at times though))

yekith , July 20, 2015 3:01 PM NST Been avoiding 2 of my sides, but I still visit the other 2 cause I'm not gonna miss on zapping pets cause of that darn forced daily! I do donate the NP I get to the money tree. But it's so annoying to have to close that thing on each page you go. :/ I know that technically, we could just click the button since we already got the prizes anyway, but I don't dare to on sides. Ugh.

jcdiva7 , July 20, 2015 4:54 PM NST they need to create a check box that says "this is a side" and that way we can all visit our side accounts

starleogirl09 , July 20, 2015 5:25 PM NST @dlee316: I use Safari and I am not having this problem. The first day I played the daily, it wouldn't go away so easily. Now it works just fine. Make sure your Flash player is up to date on the products that support it.

dave - JN Staff , July 20, 2015 5:44 PM NST Just a note, that Trudy's Surprise is not a flash game. It's all just HTML and Javascript. So, in theory, it should work fine on mobile devices that do not support Flash. (I had it working fine on Safari using my Macbook.) If you can't get it working, make sure that your Safari (on your Mac) is up-to-date and that you have the latest version of iOS on your iPhone/iPad.

dave - JN Staff , July 20, 2015 5:45 PM NST The only way to make the daily close is by clicking the "Play" button from what I've seen. It's quite annoying--but if you've logged into a side account anyway, you'll automatically be credited with the NP, so might as well click Play to make it go away.



(I wouldn't recommend purposely logging into sides unless you absolutely need to. Here's hoping they move this daily to its own page soon.)

cat , July 20, 2015 7:59 PM NST @yodaheather - I hadn't really, but then I haven't been playing the BD as much lately, I got out of the habit of playing it when the lag was pretty bad and just haven't gotten back in. It does seem like it's giving out 2+ items much less frequently so you have to fight more battles to get to 15 items.

cat , July 20, 2015 8:07 PM NST @dave - Agreed, after the daily auto-awards your side money anyway you might as well click the play button just to make it go away. Particularly if you're going to your side to do something that's usually resource heavy like recustomizing your pets. I wish they'd thought to add a "I don't want to play today" button that would get it to go away without giving you money. This thing's definitely like the slot machine in the Twilight Zone, no matter where you go it keeps chasing you.

burning_shadows_79 , July 20, 2015 10:42 PM NST

But then again, that was for something that was only awarded once, not every day. I imagine they'll have a very different view of logging into side accounts on a regular basis and getting free NP each time (in other words, I suspect they'd break out the freeze ray).



The best thing to do is wait, to see what they say in the Editorial. If they don't address it in the Editorial, then... well, they're obviously crazy. I seem to remember the old TNT saying about the lag prizes that since they were awarded automatically and couldn't be avoided, it was OK to log into side accounts and get the prizes.But then again, that was for something that was only awarded once, not every day. I imagine they'll have a very different view of logging into side accounts on a regular basis and getting free NP each time (in other words, I suspect they'd break out the freeze ray).The best thing to do is wait, to see what they sa