In this excerpt from episode 7, “Strategy for a Burning World,” of The Green Flame podcast, the author and philosopher Derrick Jensen urges listeners to join in the struggle for the planet and for justice.

“It is a terrible time to be alive in terms of having to watch the destruction of the planet,” he says, “but it is also a wonderful time to be alive because we have opportunities to stop this destruction that were not available to those [fighting back] 200 years ago.”

He also discusses the morality of advocating for industrial collapse. Derrick describes conversations with two prominent agrarian organizers, and how many poor and working people around the world have the collective skills they need to survive outside capitalism right now, but are prevented from accessing land. He also discusses the relationship between colonization, free trade, and immigration. Note that Derrick is making a point about the harms of “free trade” and closed borders, not advocating that immigration be halted.

Featured image: by Max Wilbert, CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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