After Secretary of State John Kerry said on CNN that he didn’t view the continuing military strikes against ISIS targets as a war, National Security Advisor Susan Rice was dispatched to play cleanup on the network.

She explained that when Americans thought about war, it was clear that they would think about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Although President Obama used the examples of American’s counterterrorism efforts in Yemen and Somolia, Rice admitted that the fight against ISIS would be a larger endeavor.