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This week starts with an inhale as Merlin fails to solve several of John's musical puzzles. Then, there's some R.E.M. talk. As you do.

This week's mini-topic involves Merlin's Summer Projects. Merlin likes choosing the right word, and John doesn't really do projects. This ends up leading to some deep discussion about buying a guitar and trying to get better at it.

John can't understand why Merlin would paste a screenshot, and Merlin likes watching John edit the Google Doc.

This week's main topic is Getting Big in Podcasting. Our fellow Relay host made a video about getting on a podcast network, and this leads to a broad exploration of value, independence, friendship, and the unique power to make something you love.

(Recorded on Tuesday, June 26, 2018.)