New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs thinks the federal government should cut equalization payments to force provinces to develop their natural resources.

Higgs said in an interview with CBC New Brunswick's Harry Forestell that he proposed the idea during the first ministers' meeting in Montreal earlier this month.

"No one else really jumped on that, especially Quebec didn't jump on that because they got an increase of $1.4 billion [in equalization payments]," he said.

Higgs made the comments in the context of Quebec Premier François Legault's continued opposition to the Energy East pipeline, which would have carried western crude oil to an export terminal in Saint John.

"My point was if people felt the pain — if I felt the pain, if Quebec felt the pain and they didn't get 70 per cent of the current transfer payments … I mean, they don't feel anything, so they can just say, 'No, we're not allowing anything through our province, but yet I'll take the money.' I just don't think that's fair."

Equalization is a federal program that is intended to minimize fiscal disparities between provinces.

The program is enshrined in the constitution and the goal is that provincial governments can provide comparable levels of public services at comparable levels of taxation.

Jamie Gillies, a political scientist at St. Thomas University, said equalization is a constitutional obligation and "should not be equated with resource development." (CBC) The New Brunswick government budgeted for $1.8-billion worth of equalization transfers in 2018-19. The province is expected to receive $2-billion in equalization in 2019-20.

Jamie Gillies, a political scientist at St. Thomas University, said Higgs's proposal is not realistic.

"The suggestion to cut equalization might play well in western Canada and Ontario but that could be seen as a shortsighted approach in New Brunswick, where we depend a lot on transfer payments," Gillies said in an email.

"I would think that the job of the premier of New Brunswick at first ministers' conferences is to advocate and fight for the province, not suggest austerity policies that could seriously hamstring his government and harm New Brunswickers."

Pipeline project pulled

TransCanada abandoned the proposed $16-billion pipeline project last year following protests and changes to the national environmental assessment process.

Higgs had hoped to resurrect the pipeline debate at the recent meeting with the premiers and prime minister, but Legault maintained there's "no social acceptability for oil in Quebec."

Higgs said there was general agreement among the premiers for a "utility corridor," which could be used for pipelines for oil and gas or transmitting hydro power. But Higgs said Quebec opposed the idea.

"It's like we're stranded here on the east coast and cut off from the rest of Canada," said Higgs.

Jack Mintz, a president's fellow at the University of Calgary's School of Public Policy, said this week that Alberta should consider leaving Canada. He called the plan "Albexit." (University of Calgary)

Higgs is not the only one frustrated about the inability to build pipelines and energy issues in Canada.

Economist Jack Mintz, a president's fellow at the University of Calgary's School of Public Policy, said this week that Alberta should consider leaving Canada, which he dubbed "Albexit."

In an interview with CBC's As it Happens, Mintz said Albexit would be a last resort but it could help the province as it tries to boost its energy sector.

"Alberta is being landlocked right now in Canada in the current situation. So what would independence do? Well, it won't necessarily help get pipelines to tidewater in Canada, but certainly, you know, the United States may be quite willing to make deals with Canada for oil," he said.

Developing N.B.'s energy sector

Meanwhile, New Brunswick is hurting itself by not developing its "significant" shale gas reserves, which could be "game changing" for the province's finances, Higgs said.

"We just don't seem to want to move as a province. We're happy to accept handouts, but we don't seem to be as readily willing to make the changes necessary to allow us to contribute to our own well-being," he said.

Higgs said he raised the idea of reducing transfer payments in order to force provinces to develop their natural resources at a recent first ministers' meeting. (Ryan Remiorz/Canadian Press)

Without 30 per cent of the budget coming through federal transfer payments, Higgs suggested attitudes might change about resource development.

"It's like a reality discipline," he said.

"All that I'm asking is, how can we hold our hand out on one hand and then say no on the other?"

The former Liberal government put a moratorium on shale gas development in New Brunswick.

The Higgs government has been discussing the possibility of lifting the moratorium in certain areas of the province. Higgs's PC government is in a minority situation and there is opposition from other parties to the idea of lifting the moratorium.

St. Thomas University's Gillies said equalization is a constitutional obligation and "should not be equated with resource development."