itmeJP Profile Joined February 2010 United States 1101 Posts Last Edited: 2010-08-09 09:00:18 #1



Back when I used to play games like Company of Heroes and once upon a time Warcraft 3, video commentaries weren't that popular but audio popularity were all the rage. I'm not looking to garner a gigantic audience by any means, just wanting feedback on commentary as I've been recording ~1 hours of commentary the past couple of days on an assortment of replays, listening to it, taking some notes, and then going back at it the next day with (hopefully) better casting.



Do you guys as a community have any interest in me sharing these with everyone? I could package the audio commentary with the replay and do audio sync's (timestamps) throughout the cast. I know this is an old school method of doing things but I'll take any criticism I can get.



What say ye TL.net community?



edit: I went ahead and made a pilot episode. Let me know what you guys think. I need to say the timestamp more often I know that. But what else?



EP1: RRUEP1 - Tasteless vs JF



EP2: RRUEP1 - CheckPrime vs JustFake Do to limiting factors (bandwidth, HD space, and PC speed) I can't really do too much video production whether its a live stream or a fraps'ed commentary on my own -- usually I let co-caster or production people at MLG worry about that stuff. This is why most of the content I've done in the past has been primarily podcasts and written work.Back when I used to play games like Company of Heroes and once upon a time Warcraft 3, video commentaries weren't that popular but audio popularity were all the rage. I'm not looking to garner a gigantic audience by any means, just wanting feedback on commentary as I've been recording ~1 hours of commentary the past couple of days on an assortment of replays, listening to it, taking some notes, and then going back at it the next day with (hopefully) better casting.Do you guys as a community have any interest in me sharing these with everyone? I could package the audio commentary with the replay and do audio sync's (timestamps) throughout the cast. I know this is an old school method of doing things but I'll take any criticism I can get.What say ye TL.net community?: I went ahead and made a pilot episode. Let me know what you guys think. I need to say the timestamp more often I know that. But what else? Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP

Bowdy Profile Joined April 2010 United States 231 Posts #2 I'm down for all sc related audio, I listen to my mp3 player at work so stuff like weapon of choice, elitist podast, and state of the game make my day go faster :D bowdy.smiteam.net

FC.Strike Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 621 Posts #3



I actually remember using these audio shoutcasts (they had a particular name, but I can't remember what they were called) for Dawn of War way back in the day. I've always loved them - I actually enjoy them more than video commentary. It's always the most frustrating thing when the commentator misses something on the minimap and you just want to click over there



As long as you do a 3-2-1-Go sync at the beginning, I'd be a very happy listener. Hey there JP!I actually remember using these audio shoutcasts (they had a particular name, but I can't remember what they were called) for Dawn of War way back in the day. I've always loved them - I actually enjoy them more than video commentary. It's always the most frustrating thing when the commentator misses something on the minimap and you just want to click over thereAs long as you do a 3-2-1-Go sync at the beginning, I'd be a very happy listener. --------------------------> My Smiley Face Disagrees, Your Argument is Invalid -------------------------->

itmeJP Profile Joined February 2010 United States 1101 Posts #4 On August 09 2010 13:35 Bowdy wrote:

I'm down for all sc related audio, I listen to my mp3 player at work so stuff like weapon of choice, elitist podast, and state of the game make my day go faster :D

Hmm I suppose if I can relate whats going on in game without actually giving you a real image that'd be impressive! haha Hmm I suppose if I can relate whats going on in game without actually giving you a real image that'd be impressive! haha Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP

LazyScout Profile Joined February 2010 United States 223 Posts #5 That would be awesome.

calgar Profile Blog Joined November 2007 United States 1249 Posts #6 I think there is some potential to this. It overlaps a lot with watching a normal cast because you are essentially doing the same thing, listening and watching, but the difference is that you are controlling the replay. I would think that it would be more instructional to actually examine the replay because you can pause it, rewatch it, looked at specific parts like one players macro, timings, etc. and get a better view of the technical side of the game. But entertainment wise I can't see it being more enjoyable than watching a day9 cast where he moves the camera for you. So to summarize I think it might have a niche as a more instructional version of a vod.



Icx Profile Blog Joined November 2009 Belgium 787 Posts #7 I would definatly listen to them.



Altough the usual way of casting games is good, sometimes it is just really fun to be able to watch a replay yourself and be able to check all those little things while still having a cast to listen to.



I actually still wonder why people don't do this anymore.



Khalleb Profile Blog Joined March 2009 Canada 1908 Posts #8 that would be so nice, but like FC.Strike said you should do a 3-2-1-GO sync. i will DL for sure Liquid'Nony: "I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok."

Bowdy Profile Joined April 2010 United States 231 Posts #9 back when i played cs (way before video streams) and all the HLTV's were full/laggy I had to rely on an audio stream, and there are definitely some people capable of creating a mental image of whats going on as long as you know the map. (Speaking of whatever happened to TsN?) bowdy.smiteam.net

itmeJP Profile Joined February 2010 United States 1101 Posts #10 On August 09 2010 13:40 Bowdy wrote:

back when i played cs (way before video streams) and all the HLTV's were full/laggy I had to rely on an audio stream, and there are definitely some people capable of creating a mental image of whats going on as long as you know the map. (Speaking of whatever happened to TsN?)

TsN's founder went on to work for WSVG and then once WSVG shut down he went back into his old industry (video game production) but now he's currently working for TheCPL. Me and him are pretty good friends actually haha TsN's founder went on to work for WSVG and then once WSVG shut down he went back into his old industry (video game production) but now he's currently working for TheCPL. Me and him are pretty good friends actually haha Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP

Primadog Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 4408 Posts #11 I have a long commute to work and really missed the various podasts that TL use to have. Thank God and gunrun.

Fruscainte Profile Blog Joined December 2009 4343 Posts #12 I'd gladly get podcasts and shit on my iPod

itmeJP Profile Joined February 2010 United States 1101 Posts #13



Project #39847 initiate! Hmmm alright well, if theres ~10 of you out there then maybe I can make something worthwhile and possibly do something more than just straight game castsProject #39847 initiate! Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP

Baarn Profile Joined April 2010 United States 2575 Posts #14 Yep just tell us which replays to get (with a link to it for lazy types like me) for what episode. There's no S in KT. :P

Bowdy Profile Joined April 2010 United States 231 Posts #15 On August 09 2010 13:42 itmeJP wrote:

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On August 09 2010 13:40 Bowdy wrote:

back when i played cs (way before video streams) and all the HLTV's were full/laggy I had to rely on an audio stream, and there are definitely some people capable of creating a mental image of whats going on as long as you know the map. (Speaking of whatever happened to TsN?)

TsN's founder went on to work for WSVG and then once WSVG shut down he went back into his old industry (video game production) but now he's currently working for TheCPL. Me and him are pretty good friends actually haha TsN's founder went on to work for WSVG and then once WSVG shut down he went back into his old industry (video game production) but now he's currently working for TheCPL. Me and him are pretty good friends actually haha



Well I'm sorry to hear he's working for valencia, but tell him I loved his work with TsN :D Well I'm sorry to hear he's working for valencia, but tell him I loved his work with TsN :D bowdy.smiteam.net

IndecisivePenguin Profile Blog Joined October 2008 United States 771 Posts #16 I'm all for it JP. SC2 on-the-go sounds good to me.

Hikari Profile Blog Joined May 2010 1914 Posts #17 just make sure to be vocal about locations and you will do fine - try not to move camera too much so audience can keep track.



I believe blizzard should add more functionalities in the replay system in sc2 to make commentating easier (allow users to integrate sound files and track camera movement)!

Kelethius Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 187 Posts #18 SC2 is missing the audio commentaries from wc3. The ability to view a replay as you please, focusing on the aspects you need to be focusing on while listening to the commentary was a great way to learn to play wc3.



Releasing an audio file with attached replays is I think preferable to video streaming or commentaries of that nature for teaching concepts.This method however, should only be used for tutorial videos or videos where people are learning a concept (such as episodes many people do, ie gretorp). When it comes to casting a tournament or something of that nature streaming is way better.

Yung Profile Blog Joined May 2010 United States 715 Posts #19 Ya that would be cool i never play anything with game sound so i could use this when i play stuff post them and i will download them.

grats Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 183 Posts #20 I used to do this for the wc3 community I wouldn't mind doing some audios also if people are actually interested :D!

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