MAD

some things

plates arrived at the same time of the pcbs

please guys tell me i'm not the only one that noticed this.



I mean the only reason im also in the group concerned about the plates is that i was part of the phantom group buy. during the phantom group buy the plates were delayed and PCBs sat at bavmans for literally months (this was before he went all MIA). I dont think we can even talk about refunds anymore.Really sick this **** keeps happening, i don't care who's fault it is at this point. you have MK basically at the gates ready to make and sell GH60 PCBs, they even have TEX Cases. you have PCBs of rev2 on chinese sites. yeah JD, i think i have a right to be agitated in addition to losing so much money on geekhack failed group buys last year.Completly ignoring the fact the GH60 group buy is much more massive in size, Lets look at the history of the phantom group buy to see why i am, this really puts a clear picture on how ****ed up these group buys are and whyare better suited handled by vendors or massdrop.Phantom Orders Close -Bavman confirms he has all the through hole parts and feels there is much less than 3 months left in the group buy and jokes about it with confidence -- He actually would be right if theBpiphany confirms that he submitted the order to pcbwing (his only part in that group buy) and that there was a delay due to Chinese festival (sound familar guys?) -WFD Closes Plate Orders well after the PCB Orders, however important to remember the plates arent being made in China like the PCBS-WFD Goes quiet for a week doesn't tell us when he submitted the orders for the plates since the orders closed, and then comes back to say there is a delay in the plate making -< insert 2 weeks of me bumping the plates thread literally begging for status, this is also where Profisist went from a respected member of this community to being well what he became>WFD comes back 2 weeks later after "there was a big problem"? doesn't at all explain what he meant and says he will get the plates in 1 week -Phantom PCBS confirmed arrive at Bavman -WFD comes back ANOTHER 2 weeks of not giving us any informattin, saying the plates were cut all wrong and ****ed up and he needed to find another plate maker -blames late payments http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg837981#msg837981 Bavman sends out PCB-Only work orders -WFD receives the bulk of the plates and if i am reading correctly it is only then that he has Beast make the lower-quantity designs -Beast finishes and ships the low-quantity designs -the bulk of the plates were still with WFD for 3 weeks and the PCBs are still with bavman awaiting the plates.WFD Ships the "plate-only" orders -WFD Ships plates to Bavman -Bavman Finally Receives Plates from WFD -Bavman Sorts and ships one of the only 2 rounds of Plate/PCB Combo orders he ends up sending out before going MIA -In the case of the phantom group buy, i dont know if people realize this but it wasn't initially bavman that held up the plate/pcb combo orders, it was WFD's plate maker and in some part WFD himself, Issues with the plates caused Plate/Combo orders to not go out foras we learned only part of the orders went out in june but he did send out like half the orders in under 2 weeks after getting the plates. Afterwards bavman went MIA which was caused by some life event (bavman was seen as very trustworthy before this "event")Point is if the plates came in March at the same time as the PCBs, would bavman been able to to get out all the orders before his "event" that caused him to go MIA? Wasn't it WFD's plate maker/himself that caused the phantom group buy to nose dive?Yes call me crazy for writing this up, but im not crazy when i say plates should be ordered as soon as possible, because problems may happen and you have a massive amount of orders. tell me why i am wrong after seeing the above. especially because WFD is "still" in charge of getting the plates.