Chuddinater Profile Joined July 2013 Korea (South) 164 Posts #1



Looking forward to the next season of Proleague we want to make it more exciting then it was this year. We are toying with the idea of opening Proleague to the world. If we did open up Proleague next year to all teams which teams would you be most excited to watch? Do you think if we allowed foreign teams to enter would it lower the competitive level or increase it? I hope everyone has enjoyed this season of Proleague as much as we have. There were plenty of exciting matches and the finals will be an event I will remember for the rest of my life, especially FlaSh kicking the soccer ball with the names of the SKT players into the crowd.Looking forward to the next season of Proleague we want to make it more exciting then it was this year. We are toying with the idea of opening Proleague to the world. If we did open up Proleague next year to all teams which teams would you be most excited to watch? Do you think if we allowed foreign teams to enter would it lower the competitive level or increase it?

SidianTheBard Profile Joined October 2010 United States 2208 Posts Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:50:03 #2



Tbh, I just want to see some Taeja & Innovation in proleague. I think it's safe to say if Team Liquid got invited (and actually wanted to play) viewership might increase. Or maybe even a TL/EG/Axiom combo team! mmmmmTbh, I just want to see some Taeja & Innovation in proleague. Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.

roarbot Profile Joined June 2013 United States 2 Posts #3 That would be AMAZING!



I would love to see teams like Liquid, EG, Root, and YoeFW play against top-tier Koreans!

JeXeD Profile Joined October 2011 Canada 6 Posts #4 Acer!

NFxJehuty Profile Joined March 2012 United Kingdom 58 Posts #5 I think you should try to invite a 'All star' team, made up of all the best foreign team players, that way you could take players like jaedong on american team and get him to play vs flash finally!!

SChlafmann Profile Joined September 2011 France 721 Posts #6 You can open, but not too much. Very few western team are able to compete with Kespa teams. An alliance of western teams is the best way to increase vierwership and still provide them a small chance not being totally stomped. "More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013

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lubu42 Profile Blog Joined October 2009 United States 314 Posts #8 That would be incredible if Proleague was opened to the world. To be honest I want to see teamliquid as an addition. I think with very few certain teams added to SPL, the skill level would definitely increase. However, with too many teams added (or not the right ones) I could see the skill level/competitiveness of SPL going down a bit...With the right teams I think this would be a phenomenal idea! SlayerS_BoxeR <3

chipmonklord17 Profile Joined February 2011 United States 8541 Posts Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:57:16 #9 As long as it would still be an "offline" event allowing foreigner teams in would only make the league better. I think some of the more competitive foreign teams (liquid, acer, myi, axiom, iG, and maybe some of the Taiwanese teams + Sen mercenary) would fair middle of the pack at least and add something to the league.





Oroch Profile Joined September 2010 Belgium 143 Posts #10 Yeah I guess relocation/distribution of skill-wise an Allstar team seems to be a good idea

TerranosaurusWrecks Profile Blog Joined December 2011 Canada 185 Posts #11 OMG :O



i don't think i could name a foreign team that wouldn't decrease the competitiveness of proleague, but that being said it would be amazing to see eg/tl or axiom acer in the bunch. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Like you can train a n00b, but they will just be a trained n00b."

Dodgin Profile Blog Joined July 2011 Canada 38851 Posts #12 A foreign all star team could bring a lot of excitement, I don't think there are any teams that are strong enough to stand on their own in PL but some combination of EG/TL/Acer/Axiom/MYI could make a decently competitive team and bring in more viewers.

Random2732 Profile Joined April 2011 Canada 51 Posts #13



Looking forward to the new season regardless I would love to see Team Liquid, Axiom, Acer, and MyInsanity compete in some fashion, although I'm sure these teams wouldn't want their players as grounded in Korea as seems to be currently necessary for success in Proleague.Looking forward to the new season regardless

Sjokola Profile Joined November 2010 Netherlands 797 Posts Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:59:30 #14 axiom-acer would be awesome. Does EG-TL have enough players who can stay in Korea? Maybe a Chinese team? I'm not too familiar with those.



I would love to see 2v2 come back to proleague it's to unexplored at competitive level.



Edit: I like the idea for all-star teams. Maybe an wcs AM and wcs EU team? Although they should have a set roster, but that's what KeSPA would want anyway.

NFxJehuty Profile Joined March 2012 United Kingdom 58 Posts #15 My All star team: JD, Snute, Taeja, HerO, Bunny, San, Yoda(After todays game vs herO).

Doodsmack Profile Blog Joined August 2010 United States 7089 Posts #16 The idea of TL/EG/Axiom team playing together is awesome. that could only increase viewership. Somehow I doubt there would be enough foreigner interest for there to be more than one new team, which I why I say TL/EG/Axiom combined. It could only be a good thing.

Dodgin Profile Blog Joined July 2011 Canada 38851 Posts Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:59:56 #17 On August 19 2014 10:55 Random2732 wrote:

I would love to see Team Liquid, Axiom, Acer, and MyInsanity compete in some fashion, although I'm sure these teams wouldn't want their players as grounded in Korea as seems to be currently necessary for success in Proleague.



Looking forward to the new season regardless I would love to see Team Liquid, Axiom, Acer, and MyInsanity compete in some fashion, although I'm sure these teams wouldn't want their players as grounded in Korea as seems to be currently necessary for success in Proleague.Looking forward to the new season regardless



I think ideally the team roster would be large enough to allow players to sub in and out depending on when they're available.



You could have Taeja//Hero/Inno/MMA/Scarlett/Jjakji/Sacsri/Stardust/(Not sure if any of the MYI players live in KR)Jaedong/HuK/Bunny/Mana/Snute if they want to go back to KR. Add in all of the Axiom players and you have a pretty big team.



The question is who would manage the team and how would they mesh together properly and all that jazz. I think ideally the team roster would be large enough to allow players to sub in and out depending on when they're available.You could have Taeja//Hero/Inno/MMA/Scarlett/Jjakji/Sacsri/Stardust/(Not sure if any of the MYI players live in KR)Jaedong/HuK/Bunny/Mana/Snute if they want to go back to KR. Add in all of the Axiom players and you have a pretty big team.The question is who would manage the team and how would they mesh together properly and all that jazz.

ZigguratOfUr Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Iraq 16047 Posts Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:01:12 #18 I thought this season of Proleague was amazing. The finals were especially well produced, and the games didn't disappoint.



Opening Proleague to the world is worth trying in my opinion, and would help increase the amount of interest in it for the crowd. Since maintaining a team in Korea to compete in Proleague is expensive and requires heavy resources I'd expect compound teams along the lines of EG-TL to be the main sort to apply.



Allowing entry to foreign teams probably won't lower the competitive level depending on who applies. Smaller teams with less competitive lineups simply can't afford to send people to Proleague. If different major foreign teams all come together to create a sort of juggernaut team I think the level of competition will remain fairly high. Offering the option to participate in Proleague is definitely the right decision as really the worse case scenario is that no one applies which isn't a loss. Maps I made recently: Nevermore: https://i.imgur.com/NiqR0Rj.jpg | Rubaiyat: https://i.imgur.com/XD3E3vd.jpg | Grand Canal: https://i.imgur.com/kNgyOCo.jpg

looknohands119 Profile Joined March 2010 United States 814 Posts Last Edited: 2014-08-19 05:16:26 #19 On August 19 2014 10:47 Chuddinater wrote:

I hope everyone has enjoyed this season of Proleague as much as we have. There were plenty of exciting matches and the finals will be an event I will remember for the rest of my life, especially FlaSh kicking the soccer ball with the names of the SKT players into the crowd.



Looking forward to the next season of Proleague we want to make it more exciting then it was this year. We are toying with the idea of opening Proleague to the world. If we did open up Proleague next year to all teams which teams would you be most excited to watch? Do you think if we allowed foreign teams to enter would it lower the competitive level or increase it?



Obviously the foreign teams who are most qualified are Evil Geniuses, TeamLiquid, Acer, Axiom, and some of the big Chinese/Taiwanese teams. While in the short term, opening Proleague up might slightly decrease the average skill level, I think that it will dramatically increase it in the long-term. Think of it as an investment into developing "new blood" that will bring more innovation to drive progress in the Korean scene and that will draw more money and sponsorship by expanding Proleague's appeal outside of Korea.



Edit: Who knows, maybe it would be incentive enough for some established teams from other games (LoL, DOTA2, CS:GO, etc...) to create SC2 squads or even for new non-Korean teams to form.



Edit #2: Also, why the hell is everyone assuming that KeSPA wouldn't help reduce the financial barrier. Seems like them even considering opening things up marks a very large attitude shift from KeSPA compared to when EG-TL tried to compete. It isn't a stretch to think that the traditional buy in price would be heavily reduced or that the chosen team(s) would receive monetary and logistical help to make it more viable.



TL'DR, while there might be some short term disadvantages and costs, its pretty hard to argue that it is the wrong move for either Starcraft or Korean eSports. Obviously the foreign teams who are most qualified are Evil Geniuses, TeamLiquid, Acer, Axiom, and some of the big Chinese/Taiwanese teams. While in the short term, opening Proleague up might slightly decrease the average skill level, I think that it will dramatically increase it in the long-term. Think of it as an investment into developing "new blood" that will bring more innovation to drive progress in the Korean scene and that will draw more money and sponsorship by expanding Proleague's appeal outside of Korea. "The kingdom of the heavens is buried treasure. Would you sell yourself to buy the one you've found?" - Jon Foreman ('Your Love Is Strong' - Spring EP)

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