Although David Lynch didn’t vote for Donald Trump, he said Trump could go down as one of the greatest — or at least most influential — presidents in U.S. history.

“ ‘He could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much. No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.’ ” — David Lynch

While some may quibble with his use of the term “greatest,” Lynch said in a wide-ranging interview with the Guardian that, while Trump might not be doing a good job as president, he’s paving the path for future political outsiders.