Yeah, but I can see a way back for PES, as long as they start getting the small things right. It can't compete in licenses, but has FIFA beat in gameplay, so start improving things elsewhere.Better looking, quicker menusMore music (10-12 tracks doesn't cut it)Crowds - If I'm playing as a lower league team (Alcorcon are my choice), show sparse crowds that get larger with success and vice versa.Commentary - Both FIFA and PES have stagnated in this, but FIFA at least has more variety. It's just embarrassing in PES when I'm told I might regret a miss...when I'm 5-0 up.