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going ... the deal between you ... he was here last year ... give him a chance to expand on what he had ... previously written about it ... and ... just to summarize and I know you've seen this or read about this he said ... essentially ... well ... I feel like ours possibilities they technologies that are in the ascendancy ... and ... we feel like flash is not nice and unseen HTML five is in the ascendancy and ... thus we decided to go with them not with flat ... for the ILS devices ... which are response that mean you weren't here but now you're here so what your spouse ... well I think I'm glad you asked because they are a lot of misperceptions that are out there ... first when it first broke I think people talk about the fact that they thought it was a technology issue ... and I think over the last year it's become the Netia to a lot of people that it isn't about the technology ... it's about a business model which ... and it's about control awful lot full ... of because the reality is that ... where that gets flushed the data with its job on the I pad or whether you know moving forward it might be ... applications like the Kindle ... up its control of the application store and the app store that's been the ... at issue here ... the value proposition that flash has is we allow people ... to walk the wants ... and get that distribute didn't as to why ... up at home spouses ... and we've done that with Android we will have a hundred and thirty ... million ... devices phone devices that have backed by the end of the year we will have and I have yet to test a single one more class works really well ... I'm sorry but it's true ... well ... it struggles on those injury devices so far I mean it might change but so far ... well I think we're making ... a ton of progress and I think when you actually look at what's happened with the PlayBook what's happening with the Android devices well played well on the PlayBook there were a lot of other things to do ... very well played but if you go back to rebut calm I specifically said ... this is the best flash experience have seen a portable device that is tiny and for ... and it ... has a disease that other issues but ... today yet played well playbook but I'm the and red ones you mention I don't think he quite got it you don't mind the sentence ... you know ... we look at it and say our job as a company ... is to make sure that when people want to create costs that ... would have upon and they want whatever format they want ... we look for the isthe was best with a bill that and we would distribute that still ... but go back to the to this fight with Apple ... um ... he is that because they compete with you on certain things because ... of some historical issue ... or is a difference if you start to talk about it being a control issue can you elaborate ... on that it's a business model if you ... opt when you have ... a pipe bomb and a study done a wonderful job with having a lot on that indeed in a new category ... it's all about control of the applications that you can run on that platform that make the platform really come them not ... I would Adobe does ... to slash ... is if you can do the applications and flash ... then it allows those applications to run on the busiest part ... and if you are far people are Kobo deal proprietary applications ... then you don't want to run any form it's not just black it is job of ... and it has any other format that allows you to have those same applications run everywhere ... and so that's that's really it so that you have some work around Crailar is platform could you talk about that ... sure so again I think when people are creating applications the movie creating two kinds of applications ... the building things in a browser ... and debating standalone up the contrast ... and our own with its smartphones over that tablets ... are you you're finding that people are delivering content and applications ... so what ... Apple doesn't allow us to do is to the ... facts on and within the Browns ... what they have allowed us to do ... is if they can do that application using Flash ... but ... captured in what's called an air find ... been that can run as a standalone application because then it's specific to the Apple lot what the average person buying ... a nice fun I've had ... they don't know any of that is the saidthe is this this application to the developer they've been able to do it and ... in flash ... maybe they write directly to slash a man tried and I'm I'm on the half to go through one more conversion step and ... say which are saying and the kids on that that's what the value proposition for developer is if you can do the applications using our tools ... and you don't fight it down to the eye device Lochbaum in you run into the Apple store that looks ... because Apple still has control of all of the business market associated so they are proving the stamps even though they're ... they're on this here here's another one appear that ... that's right at the top of the roving those applications out we have so that so the bikes this there is plenty on their devices is just not ... in the browser ... is not the press after ... a man ... OK and so are you okay with battery still ... you know ... going over there and yelling at them and saying that the browser what's the deal ... in a week would cost him was front and center and you know whatever format you wish to ... offer then we will allow you to do it and so people are using not goes to bed applications of the IDE devices it's an extra step when I talk to ... Alan Maariv The was the Jungman he talks about the fact that ... today in order to deal with this multitude of platforms ... is complex ... and would be trying to as the company is greeted use complexity ... and on ... doubts about new proposition that Adobe provides a sale ... of would be willing to listen we will look around any arbitrary obstacles that are imposed in a way ... because we're really focused on making when its content published over that an application development ... have the ability to get their apps ...