Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #7101 On September 15 2017 12:18 bdonballer wrote:

Pretty sure +20 int is better on core wind ranger than the move speed. It's more dmg and more mana for you to use



I thought so too, but I kept seeing movement speed come up a whole lot more recently. I thought so too, but I kept seeing movement speed come up a whole lot more recently. https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

bdonballer Profile Joined October 2014 United States 408 Posts #7102 With phase boots and windrun active you are already at max movespeed, hence I think +40ms is pretty useless.

Just my 2 cents. I carry hard!

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #7103 On September 15 2017 16:07 bdonballer wrote:

With phase boots and windrun active you are already at max movespeed, hence I think +40ms is pretty useless.

Just my 2 cents.



Why do you think others do it?

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bdonballer Profile Joined October 2014 United States 408 Posts #7104 https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/windranger/builds

I am not sure as to why people take it. It might be reasonable to take if you get arcane boots or something.

55% go +20 int

45% go 40 ms

Both have same winrate though I am not sure as to why people take it. It might be reasonable to take if you get arcane boots or something.55% go +20 int45% go 40 msBoth have same winrate though I carry hard!

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2017-09-17 11:18:40 #7105 Renamed Core

Underlord (Support)

New Skill Build: E Q Q E Q R Q W W T W R W E T E R T T (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)

New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+12% Spell Damage), 20 (+60 Attack Speed), 25 (+50 Health Regen)

Starting Items: Poor Man's Shield, Tango

Core Items: Arcane Boots, Blade Mail, Rod of Atos

Situational Items: Force Staff, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Pipe of Insight, Crimson Guard. Lotus Orb, Linken's Sphere

Extension Items: Boots of Travel, Blink Dagger, Radiance, Assault Cuirass, Mjollnir, Octarine Core



Monkey King (Core)

New Skill Build: E Q E W E Q E Q R T Q T W W T W R T T (1. Jingu Mastery 2. Boundless Strike 3. Tree Dance)

New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Attack Speed), 15 (+75 Jingu Mastery Damage), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)

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Added Haven's Halberd to Situational Items

Added Sange & Yasha to Situational Items

Added Mjollnir to Extension Items

Moved Magic Wand to Early Game

Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items

Moved Desolator to Extension Items

Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items

Removed Iron Branch x2

Removed Mask of Madness

Removed Abyssal Blade

Removed Eye of Skadi



Monkey King (Roamer)

New Skill Build: W E Q W W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Tree Dance 2. Boundless Strike 3. Jingu Mastery)

New Talent Tree: 10 (12% Evasion), 15 (+275 Health), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)

Added Phase Boots to Core Items

Added Echo Sabre to Core Items

Moved Urn of Shadows to Situational Items

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Ring of Basilius

Removed Power Treads



Drow Ranger

Added Boots of Speed to Early Game

Added Mask of Madness to Situational Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Moved Power Treads to Core Items



Outworld Devourer

New Skill Build: W E W E W Q W E E T R Q Q Q T R R T T (1. Astral Imprisonment 2. Essence Aura 3. Arcane Orb)

Added Octarine Core to Extension Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items



Axe (Core)

Added Vanguard to Situational Items



Thank you to: Dice, Bodocrayo, meikyoushisui, ileamare, whileFalseSemicolon, wuweidota400, Prezombie New Skill Build: E Q Q E Q R Q W W T W R W E T E R T T (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+12% Spell Damage), 20 (+60 Attack Speed), 25 (+50 Health Regen)Starting Items: Poor Man's Shield, TangoCore Items: Arcane Boots, Blade Mail, Rod of AtosSituational Items: Force Staff, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Pipe of Insight, Crimson Guard. Lotus Orb, Linken's SphereExtension Items: Boots of Travel, Blink Dagger, Radiance, Assault Cuirass, Mjollnir, Octarine CoreNew Skill Build: E Q E W E Q E Q R T Q T W W T W R T T (1. Jingu Mastery 2. Boundless Strike 3. Tree Dance)New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Attack Speed), 15 (+75 Jingu Mastery Damage), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)Added Quelling Blade to Starting ItemsAdded Haven's Halberd to Situational ItemsAdded Sange & Yasha to Situational ItemsAdded Mjollnir to Extension ItemsMoved Magic Wand to Early GameMoved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational ItemsMoved Desolator to Extension ItemsMoved Black King Bar to Extension ItemsRemoved Iron Branch x2Removed Mask of MadnessRemoved Abyssal BladeRemoved Eye of SkadiNew Skill Build: W E Q W W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Tree Dance 2. Boundless Strike 3. Jingu Mastery)New Talent Tree: 10 (12% Evasion), 15 (+275 Health), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)Added Phase Boots to Core ItemsAdded Echo Sabre to Core ItemsMoved Urn of Shadows to Situational ItemsRemoved Healing SalveRemoved Ring of BasiliusRemoved Power TreadsAdded Boots of Speed to Early GameAdded Mask of Madness to Situational ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsMoved Power Treads to Core ItemsNew Skill Build: W E W E W Q W E E T R Q Q Q T R R T T (1. Astral Imprisonment 2. Essence Aura 3. Arcane Orb)Added Octarine Core to Extension ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Vanguard to Situational ItemsThank you to: Dice, Bodocrayo, meikyoushisui, ileamare, whileFalseSemicolon, wuweidota400, Prezombie https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

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Buckyman Profile Joined May 2014 1362 Posts #7107 Void's Vlad's first build seems too slow when I try it; conversely, pro players skip it and go manta or diffusal first.

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #7108 On September 28 2017 11:32 Buckyman wrote:

Void's Vlad's first build seems too slow when I try it; conversely, pro players skip it and go manta or diffusal first.



???



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Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #7110 This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the feedback and knowledge of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: Dice, Bodocrayo, meikyoushisui, ileamare, whileFalseSemicolon, wuweidota400, Prezombie





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Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #7112 Underlord (Core)

New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 Armor), 15 (+12% Spell Amplification), 20 (+60 Attack Speed), 25 (+50 Health Regen)

Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items

Moved Rod of Atos to Situational Items



Monkey King (Core)

New Skill Build: E Q E W E Q E R Q T Q R W W T W R T T (1. Jingu Mastery 2. Boundless Strike 3. Tree Dance)

New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Attack Speed), 15 (+275 Health), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)

Created New Tab: "Core Items (Aggressive)"

Added Orb of Venom to Early Game

Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game

Added Diffusal Blade to Core Items

Added Phase Boots to Core Items (Aggressive)

Added Magic Wand to Core Items (Aggressive)

Added Echo Sabre to Core Items (Aggressive)

Added Silver Edge to Core Items (Aggressive)

Moved Silver Edge to Core Items

Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items

Removed Mjollnir



Vengeful Spirit (Core)

Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items

Added Ring of Protection to Starting Items

Added Dragon Lance to Core Items

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Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items

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Moved Sange & Yasha to Core Items

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Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items

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Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2017-10-04 07:15:22 #7115 ed https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2017-10-16 18:56:39 #7116 SirActionSlacks

Created New Tab: "Core Items (Utility)"

Added Stout Shield to Starting Items

Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items

Added Iron Talon to Early Game

Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to "Core Items (Utility)"

Added Solar Crest to "Core Items (Utility)"

Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items

Added Black King Bar to Situational Items

Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Added Silver Edge to Extension Items

Added Bloodthorn to Luxury Items

Moved Radiance to Core Items (Offlane)

Moved Hand of Midas to Situational Items

Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items

Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items

Moved Octarine Core to Luxury Items

Removed Poor Man's Shield

Removed Quelling Blade

Removed Guardian Greaves

Removed Moon Shard



Monkey King (Roamer)

Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game

Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items

Removed Vladmir's Offering



Omniknight

New Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Purification 2. Repel 3. Degen Aura)



Silencer (Support)

Moved Solar Crest to Situational Items



Lifestealer (Core)

Removed Quelling Blade



Underlord (Core)

Created New Tab: "Early Game"

Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"

Added Iron Talon to "Early Game"

Added Soul Ring to "Early Game"

Added Vanguard to Core Items

Added Silver Edge to Situational Items

Added Black King Bar to Extension Items

Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items

Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items

Moved Boots of Travel to Core Items

Moved Radiance to Core Items

Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items

Moved Force Staff to Extension Items

Removed Poor Man's Shield

Removed Lotus Orb

Removed Pipe of Insight

Removed Blink Dagger

Removed Assault Cuirass



Necrophos

Added Force Staff to Situational Items

Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items

Removed Eul's Scepter of Divinity



Drow Ranger

New Skill Build: E Q E Q W R E E Q T Q R W W T R T T (1. Precision Aura 2. Frost Arrows 3. Gust)

New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 Stats), 15(+175 Health), 20 (+6% Precision Aura Damage), 25 (+25 Marksmanship Agility)



Thank you to: DocSawage Created New Tab: "Core Items (Utility)"Added Stout Shield to Starting ItemsAdded Enchanted Mango to Starting ItemsAdded Iron Talon to Early GameAdded Eul's Scepter of Divinity to "Core Items (Utility)"Added Solar Crest to "Core Items (Utility)"Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational ItemsAdded Black King Bar to Situational ItemsAdded Aghanim's Scepter to Extension ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Silver Edge to Extension ItemsAdded Bloodthorn to Luxury ItemsMoved Radiance to Core Items (Offlane)Moved Hand of Midas to Situational ItemsMoved Blink Dagger to Situational ItemsMoved Linken's Sphere to Extension ItemsMoved Octarine Core to Luxury ItemsRemoved Poor Man's ShieldRemoved Quelling BladeRemoved Guardian GreavesRemoved Moon ShardAdded Ring of Aquila to Early GameMoved Solar Crest to Extension ItemsRemoved Vladmir's OfferingNew Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Purification 2. Repel 3. Degen Aura)Moved Solar Crest to Situational ItemsRemoved Quelling BladeCreated New Tab: "Early Game"Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"Added Iron Talon to "Early Game"Added Soul Ring to "Early Game"Added Vanguard to Core ItemsAdded Silver Edge to Situational ItemsAdded Black King Bar to Extension ItemsAdded Shiva's Guard to Extension ItemsAdded Abyssal Blade to Extension ItemsMoved Boots of Travel to Core ItemsMoved Radiance to Core ItemsMoved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational ItemsMoved Force Staff to Extension ItemsRemoved Poor Man's ShieldRemoved Lotus OrbRemoved Pipe of InsightRemoved Blink DaggerRemoved Assault CuirassAdded Force Staff to Situational ItemsAdded Scythe of Vyse to Extension ItemsRemoved Eul's Scepter of DivinityNew Skill Build: E Q E Q W R E E Q T Q R W W T R T T (1. Precision Aura 2. Frost Arrows 3. Gust)New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 Stats), 15(+175 Health), 20 (+6% Precision Aura Damage), 25 (+25 Marksmanship Agility)Thank you to: DocSawage https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #7117 stats in two days https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Buckyman Profile Joined May 2014 1362 Posts #7118 Is Drow ever supposed to get a fourth point in Gust?

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #7119 On October 17 2017 06:22 Buckyman wrote:

Is Drow ever supposed to get a fourth point in Gust?



lol that's weird, thanks lol that's weird, thanks https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

RuiBarbO Profile Joined August 2012 United States 424 Posts #7120 You're a beast, Torte. Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?

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