Creager Profile Joined February 2011 Germany 1570 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-26 23:17:51 #21 On March 27 2016 04:21 Diabolique wrote:

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On March 27 2016 04:10 WGT-Baal wrote:

It s really unfortunate but at the same time the rule is the rule and I suppose the admin had little room to do anything else.

Anyways thanks for clarifying the situation. I hope to see you in more tournaments!

I just believe, there is no such rule. It is similar as having a rule that you are not allowed to put your cat into microwave to dry it after rain. Or you should not throw knifes into the public. Or you should not play naked. I do not think, there is a rule that you must have clothes on you when playing at the tournament. There will be some general statement that you should be respectful or normal or "as usual"...



Really pity for Sioras. And as some people say, that he could learn from his mistakes, his only mistake was that he wanted to do a "joke with a friend" and that friend was not that much a friend, he was just a friendly foreign guy. And when the "lawyer machinery" starts once, it is difficult to stop it. I just believe, there is no such rule. It is similar as having a rule that you are not allowed to put your cat into microwave to dry it after rain. Or you should not throw knifes into the public. Or you should not play naked. I do not think, there is a rule that you must have clothes on you when playing at the tournament. There will be some general statement that you should be respectful or normal or "as usual"...Really pity for Sioras. And as some people say, that he could learn from his mistakes, his only mistake was that he wanted to do a "joke with a friend" and that friend was not that much a friend, he was just a friendly foreign guy. And when the "lawyer machinery" starts once, it is difficult to stop it.



Certain things don't need to be in rule books for tournaments since they are common sense, some of these things like not being naked in the public are even written down in books and are so-called "law".



Back on topic, it's really a situation that seemed to have backfired on you, hope you learn from it, no big deal if your intentions were just making a joke. Just move on and be more careful in the future. Certain things don't need to be in rule books for tournaments since they are common sense, some of these things like not being naked in the public are even written down in books and are so-called "law".Back on topic, it's really a situation that seemed to have backfired on you, hope you learn from it, no big deal if your intentions were just making a joke. Just move on and be more careful in the future. ... einmal mit Profis spielen!

Garuga Profile Joined June 2015 49 Posts #22





User was warned for this post Oops...hehe...I accidentally walked out of the store without paying for something. I wasn't trying to steal anything, it was just a joke. Hehe..Kappa... I wanted the store clerk to laugh with me...I wouldn't have done it if a cop was there.

oGoZenob Profile Joined December 2011 France 1499 Posts #23

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/503659-honorable-way-of-playing#19 reading sioras old posts brings some interesting stuff I like starcraft

ETisME Profile Blog Joined April 2011 Hong Kong 11898 Posts #24 Maybe players should treat wcs as premier tournament. 其疾如风，其徐如林，侵掠如火，不动如山，难知如阴，动如雷震。

Nerchio Profile Joined October 2009 Poland 2628 Posts #25 That may sound sad but I believe one of the reasons for disqualification was Has being more popular in China than Sioras who "nobody cares about". Progamer "I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.

Kevin_Sorbo Profile Joined November 2011 Canada 3213 Posts #26 On March 27 2016 12:25 Nerchio wrote:

That may sound sad but I believe one of the reasons for disqualification was Has being more popular in China than Sioras who "nobody cares about".

Has games have the same effect as twitch chat on my eyes tbh...



Watching this guy beat players I like is so infuriating. Has games have the same effect as twitch chat on my eyes tbh...Watching this guy beat players I like is so infuriating. The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa

swissman777 Profile Joined September 2014 1106 Posts #27 On March 27 2016 08:47 Garuga wrote:

Oops...hehe...I accidentally walked out of the store without paying for something. I wasn't trying to steal anything, it was just a joke. Hehe..Kappa... I wanted the store clerk to laugh with me...I wouldn't have done it if a cop was there.





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Well the store owner was ok with it so......... Well the store owner was ok with it so.........

SiorasSC Profile Blog Joined August 2015 23 Posts #28 On March 27 2016 11:08 oGoZenob wrote:

reading sioras old posts brings some interesting stuff

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/503659-honorable-way-of-playing#19 reading sioras old posts brings some interesting stuff



I didn't realize that cheesing was equal to cheating, my mistake I didn't realize that cheesing was equal to cheating, my mistake

Cascade Profile Blog Joined March 2006 Australia 5405 Posts #29 On March 27 2016 11:08 oGoZenob wrote:

reading sioras old posts brings some interesting stuff

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/503659-honorable-way-of-playing#19 reading sioras old posts brings some interesting stuff

if you look a the context of the post you linked, sioras essentially says "it's ok to cheese". Not relevant to what is going in this thread. if you look a the context of the post you linked, sioras essentially says "it's ok to cheese". Not relevant to what is going in this thread.

Harstem Profile Joined January 2011 Netherlands 251 Posts #30 I would like to add two things to what sioras said.

He really had no intention of hiding it,he just sat there while I was talking to marinelord and I could turn around any second and see him watch the replay. So that either makes him the dumbest cheater in existence or it confirms what he already said. On top of that he as watching on 1X speed so even though I was gone for a few minutes he was only 2:15 in. It was so obvious that he didn't do it with bad intentions. As a response to this the organisers gave him a warning and told him that watching replays of someone else one more time will get him disqualified. I think this was the appropriate response to the situation. Then on the day of the game itself just before we got in the bus they told us that blizzard decided to overrule the warning and make it a disqualification. I appreciate that blizzard is protecting the players and the competitive integrity of their tournaments, but I believe they should have first at least asked me how it went down. If they after hearing my story still thought a disqualification was the appropriate response then so be it,but I feel like this was too much for too little.



Just my two cents (sorry for my incoherent story, am on mymy phone and on a holiday ) Progamer

bduddy Profile Joined May 2012 United States 1322 Posts #31 IMO, it should never be on the victimized player to decide or affect the punishment, even if they really want the other player to get a light punishment. It puts too much pressure on them, and it makes the player the asshole if they want to enforce the rules. >Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right

KingFool Profile Joined January 2008 Canada 428 Posts #32 On March 29 2016 14:41 bduddy wrote:

IMO, it should never be on the victimized player to decide or affect the punishment, even if they really want the other player to get a light punishment. It puts too much pressure on them, and it makes the player the asshole if they want to enforce the rules.



But asking for their side of the story wouldn't be bad But asking for their side of the story wouldn't be bad Stimin myself on a daily basis

Waxangel Profile Blog Joined September 2002 United States 29129 Posts #33



http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/506573-the-real-reason-sioras-was-dqd Guys, I got to the bottom of the story. Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

lichter Profile Blog Joined September 2010 1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL 22233 Posts #34 On March 29 2016 15:14 Waxangel wrote:

Guys, I got to the bottom of the story.



http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/506573-the-real-reason-sioras-was-dqd Guys, I got to the bottom of the story.



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adMachine Profile Joined February 2013 Australia 53 Posts #35 regardless shouldnt have looked.. no sympathy or understanding here. Life is a weight, so lift it.

SC2Toastie Profile Blog Joined October 2013 Netherlands 5721 Posts #36 lolwcslol Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!

Waxangel Profile Blog Joined September 2002 United States 29129 Posts #37 On March 29 2016 15:01 KingFool wrote:

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On March 29 2016 14:41 bduddy wrote:

IMO, it should never be on the victimized player to decide or affect the punishment, even if they really want the other player to get a light punishment. It puts too much pressure on them, and it makes the player the asshole if they want to enforce the rules.



But asking for their side of the story wouldn't be bad But asking for their side of the story wouldn't be bad



you figure that you'd talk to both players if you were holding a respectable investigation you figure that you'd talk to both players if you were holding a respectable investigation Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

DonDomingo Profile Joined October 2015 279 Posts #38 The real facepalm is replays not being public

blade55555 Profile Blog Joined March 2009 United States 17373 Posts #39 On March 29 2016 12:06 Harstem wrote:

I would like to add two things to what sioras said.

He really had no intention of hiding it,he just sat there while I was talking to marinelord and I could turn around any second and see him watch the replay. So that either makes him the dumbest cheater in existence or it confirms what he already said. On top of that he as watching on 1X speed so even though I was gone for a few minutes he was only 2:15 in. It was so obvious that he didn't do it with bad intentions. As a response to this the organisers gave him a warning and told him that watching replays of someone else one more time will get him disqualified. I think this was the appropriate response to the situation. Then on the day of the game itself just before we got in the bus they told us that blizzard decided to overrule the warning and make it a disqualification. I appreciate that blizzard is protecting the players and the competitive integrity of their tournaments, but I believe they should have first at least asked me how it went down. If they after hearing my story still thought a disqualification was the appropriate response then so be it,but I feel like this was too much for too little.



Just my two cents (sorry for my incoherent story, am on mymy phone and on a holiday )



Yeah when someone posted that on twitter questioning how he could only get a warning, I had a feeling he would get removed.



The fact that it is obviously not him cheating as you pointed out, they should have asked you instead of just removing him like they did. I am betting the reddit effect took place, they were spammed on twitter "omg how could you only give him a warning, remove!!!!" and that is why he was banned.



I'll be honest I thought the guy was a piece of shit, but I was like everyone else and didn't wait to hear the whole story and listened to just that tweet. I should know better, let alone more people as there is usually more then meets the eye. Thanks for confirming the story! Yeah when someone posted that on twitter questioning how he could only get a warning, I had a feeling he would get removed.The fact that it is obviously not him cheating as you pointed out, they should have asked you instead of just removing him like they did. I am betting the reddit effect took place, they were spammed on twitter "omg how could you only give him a warning, remove!!!!" and that is why he was banned.I'll be honest I thought the guy was a piece of shit, but I was like everyone else and didn't wait to hear the whole story and listened to just that tweet. I should know better, let alone more people as there is usually more then meets the eye. Thanks for confirming the story! When I think of something else, something will go here

Blargh Profile Joined September 2010 United States 1879 Posts #40 You should make another one of those Wax. Just keep making fanfic stories about it. Like, the next one can make it seem like Sioras is undergoing some serious heist. Wow how exciting.

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