David Price has forearm tightness, he’s had an MRI, and he’s scheduled to visit Dr. James Andrews for a second opinion. That’s all three acts of the elbow horror movie, and there usually isn’t a twist ending. This usually doesn’t end with Andrews discovering the map to a lost continent in Price’s elbow. The next piece of news is almost always Tommy John surgery.

Or is it? That’s just a hunch, and while I’m not a talented enough journalist to run a Lexus-Nutella search and track down every single time Andrews has been called for a second opinion, I’m pretty good with the Google, and it’s probably worthwhile to see how many second opinions don’t lead to Tommy John.

Four notes:

This is not supposed to reflect on Dr. Andrews. Players also see Dr. Neal ElAttrache and other doctors with less interesting names. Every situation is different. Still, the phrase “second opinion” is closely associated with Dr. Andrews, and this is an unscientific look to see if there’s a reason why we often jump to conclusions.

I’m looking at pitchers only, so Carlos Beltran and Adam Eaton do not apply

Only pitchers who had second opinions on their elbows will be included, not the pitchers with shoulder problems

This is not an exhaustive list. This is just what I could find through Google and Twitter searches, which is why the list is heavily weighted toward more recent injuries.

Here is what happened to the pitchers who’ve had Dr. James Andrews take a second look at their elbows recently:

The second opinions of Dr. James Andrews Date Player Result Second-opinion source Date Player Result Second-opinion source 4/9/12 Drew Storen Bone fragment surgery, returned in July http://wapo.st/2mj5ZmV 6/15/12 Kyle Drabek Tommy John http://on.thestar.com/2lE3BmQ 4/23/13 Dylan Bundy Tommy John http://es.pn/2lE2tQc 5/9/13 Joel Hanrahan Tommy John http://bit.ly/2lE3E20 8/22/13 Jeremy Hefner Tommy John http://nyp.st/2mQcs5h 9/16/13 Matt Harvey Tommy John http://nydn.us/2miYeNI 3/11/14 Kris Medlen Tommy John http://bit.ly/2m0ImNr 3/17/14 Brandon Beachy Tommy John http://cbsprt.co/2mKpx0z 3/17/14 Patrick Corbin Tommy John http://bit.ly/2mKwjno 3/29/14 David Hernandez Tommy John http://bit.ly/2liy8up 4/9/14 Matt Moore Tommy John https://yhoo.it/2lZ2kcV 4/15/14 Josh Johnson Tommy John https://yhoo.it/2mjcKov 4/23/14 Ivan Nova Tommy John http://bit.ly/2mj6ayB 5/22/14 Luke Putkonen Bone spur surgery, out for season http://bit.ly/2lxWNq7 5/22/14 Matt Purke Tommy John http://bit.ly/2lYQX4Q 6/17/14 Derek Law Tommy John http://bit.ly/2mewWYx 7/29/14 Matt Cain Bone fragment surgery, out for season http://bayareane.ws/2lYUgZw 3/9/15 Cliff Lee Rest and rehab, unofficially retired http://bit.ly/2mxGxud 3/10/15 Tim Collins Tommy John http://bit.ly/2lYXigo 3/12/15 Yu Darvish Tommy John http://bit.ly/2lxRPtn 3/15/15 Josh Edgin Tommy John http://nyti.ms/2mxtk4K 4/14/15 Brandon Workman Tommy John http://bit.ly/2mxDMcx 5/4/15 Adam Ottavino Tommy John http://dpo.st/2m0wOtk 5/10/15 Nick Kingham Tommy John http://bit.ly/2m0Alrq 5/14/15 Hunter Harvey Rest and rehab, followed by Tommy John http://bsun.md/2m0oSbB 5/26/15 Branden Kline PRP injection, followed by Tommy John http://bit.ly/2lYOZRG 7/17/15 Clay Buchholz PRP injection, out for season http://bit.ly/2liE46X 7/27/15 Casey Sadler PRP injection, followed by Tommy John http://bit.ly/2mKwz5Q 8/3/15 Parker Bridwell Rest and rehab, out for season http://bit.ly/2mKsJte 3/3/16 Jesus Luzardo Tommy John http://bit.ly/2lE66pr 3/5/16 Andrew McKirahan Tommy John http://bit.ly/2lDJo0Q 3/8/16 Carter Capps Tommy John http://hrld.us/2mj8jKq 4/24/16 Branden Pinder Tommy John http://bit.ly/2liENoq 5/6/16 Garrett Richards Rest and rehab, out for season http://atmlb.com/2mexai0 2/15/17 Alex Reyes Tommy John http://bit.ly/2mj1YPa

If you want to break out the Dumb and Dumber quote about there being a chance that David Price just needs a little rest and rehabilitation, now’s the time. There is a chance. Don’t write his 2017 season off yet.

But, no. It does not look good. If you have a sense of impending doom when you hear the words “Dr. James Andrews” and “second opinion” — or any doctor providing a second opinion on an elbow — your fears are justified.

You knew this, but here’s a sample of previous cases just in case you needed evidence.