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Today on “The Choice,” the endorsement podcast from NYT Opinion, Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota visits the Times boardroom for her interview. The editorial board pressed her on her failure to take off in the polls, her Trump-like plans to utilize presidential executive orders and the reports that she is a cruel boss. Plus: Lindsey the heartbreaker, pipe dreams and Uncle Dick’s deer stand.

Then, tune in to the bonus deliberation episode below to hear the board’s reaction to Klobuchar’s interview, her deft bipartisan skills and their impression of her as a creature of D.C. Then, a deeper conversation with a board member, Brent Staples, about the Midwestern affect in a bombastic political era and how it could play in the 2020 race. Brent discusses Klobuchar’s potential path to gaining popularity, her campaign’s melody and the sexism quotient in critiques of tough women bosses.