

FFH5

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Tavistock NJ FFH5 Premium Member McCain hasn't backed a winning bill in a long time The kiss of death for Aereo. Having McCain backing them is a sure loser for them. McCain hasn't backed a winning bill since he lost the presidency.



Jim Kirk

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49985 1 edit 1 recommendation Jim Kirk Premium Member Re: McCain hasn't backed a winning bill in a long time said by FFH5: McCain hasn't backed a winning bill since he lost the presidency.





I'm surprised you're such a fair-weather friend. You were all gung-ho for him and that nut job Palin in 2008. You can't lose something you never had.I'm surprised you're such a fair-weather friend. You were all gung-ho for him and that nut job Palin in 2008.



spewak

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said by FFH5: The kiss of death for Aereo. Having McCain backing them is a sure loser for them. McCain hasn't backed a winning bill since he lost the presidency.

You expressed my point perfectly my friend!



Cabal

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Logical fallacy: ad hominem.

Angrychair

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Aereo doesn't need this bill. The bill will almost certainly fail or be amended into a twisted useless version as it seems much too consumer friendly.



Aereo is already currently on (slightly convoluted) legal ground.



mccainloon

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McCain is off his rocker & I don't think many people take him seriously anymore. I also don't think he is going to assist Aereo and the constant court battles they are having, but hey, he can try to use whats left of his name and position, I guess.



Dear McCain -- please head off to a retirement home, it's a better place to tout your opinion.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17

Carlisle, PA 1 recommendation itguy05 Member Knew I liked him I knew there was a reason I liked McCain.... Too bad we didn't elect him president.

egilbe

join:2011-03-07 egilbe Member Re: Knew I liked him He saddled himself with Sarah Palin, remember?

itguy05

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Carlisle, PA itguy05 Member Re: Knew I liked him said by egilbe: He saddled himself with Sarah Palin, remember?

And she would be worse than our current VP how? He's equally as "brilliant".



battleop

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When was the last time we had a VP that was worth a shit?

pandora

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Outland pandora Premium Member Re: Knew I liked him said by battleop: When was the last time we had a VP that was worth a shit?

Cheney.



mr sean

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N. Absentia mr sean Re: Knew I liked him said by pandora: said by battleop: When was the last time we had a VP that was worth a shit?



Cheney. Really? I thought his quail hunting skill made a good analogy for 8 years work.

pandora

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Outland pandora Premium Member Re: Knew I liked him said by mr sean: Really? I thought his quail hunting skill made a good analogy for 8 years work.





I try to think about Biden or Gore holding their own against Cheney, but both seem to come up short imo.



As to Aero and McCain, I think the fight Aero has is with existing law and in court, not with anything McCain does. To each their own. IIRC Bush was sedated for a medical procedure and turned Presidential authority over to Cheney for a few hours.I try to think about Biden or Gore holding their own against Cheney, but both seem to come up short imo.As to Aero and McCain, I think the fight Aero has is with existing law and in court, not with anything McCain does.



mr sean

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N. Absentia mr sean Re: Knew I liked him Yeah, those two hours of authority were great for Dan Quayle too.

But yes, it is fun agreeing to disagree.



Regarding Aero, I think the next several months will be a good indicator of which way the courts will go. But it might be interesting to watch legislative maneuvering and follow the money trail if the networks seek protective remedies.

pandora

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Outland pandora Premium Member Re: Knew I liked him said by mr sean: Regarding Aero, I think the next several months will be a good indicator of which way the courts will go. But it might be interesting to watch legislative maneuvering and follow the money trail if the networks seek protective remedies.





The only other alternative are series being developed by Netflix or Amazon Studios.



I know Comedy Central (Viacom?) dropped Futurama, maybe Netflix or Amazon can pick the series up. If Aero is viable, it could be a nice merge with Netflix or Amazon streaming.



If Amazon carried my local channels via an Aero like system, at this point, I'd probably drop satellite. I hope Aero survives, it will help establish a functional internet media distribution model to build from that contrasts with current cable / satellite.The only other alternative are series being developed by Netflix or Amazon Studios.I know Comedy Central (Viacom?) dropped Futurama, maybe Netflix or Amazon can pick the series up. If Aero is viable, it could be a nice merge with Netflix or Amazon streaming.If Amazon carried my local channels via an Aero like system, at this point, I'd probably drop satellite.



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The following is being said by a Republican...



BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

pandora

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Outland pandora Premium Member Re: Knew I liked him said by battleop: The following is being said by a Republican...



BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!





About half my Presidential votes have been for Republicans. I voted for Clinton and Obama.



Can you tell me what your beef is exactly? I voted for Obama against McCain, and posted my reluctant decision in the Red Room. I still stand by that vote.About half my Presidential votes have been for Republicans. I voted for Clinton and Obama.Can you tell me what your beef is exactly?

pandora

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Outland pandora Premium Member Re: Knew I liked him said by battleop: Vice Presidents are usually fuck ups.







While Vice Presidents tend to be awful, the past generation of Presidents hasn't been much to write home about either. Yes. Of the last few, it occurs to me Cheney was probably the best of the lot. That is a personal opinion, others undoubtedly disagree.While Vice Presidents tend to be awful, the past generation of Presidents hasn't been much to write home about either.

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Since when do VP's actually have a job. They don't really do much under law and never will.



Jim Kirk

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said by itguy05: I knew there was a reason I liked McCain.... Too bad we didn't elect him president.

I liked his ideas on campaign finance reform. However, he's too much of a warmonger. Aka "Cheney-lite".



Oh_No

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You forget how he is thief and ripped off a lot people with the savings and loan scandal.

sparc

join:2006-05-06 sparc Member how do you determine must-have programming? This "must-have" programming statement seems rather vague. It's not like they can demand that certain primetime content or sports must only be shown OTA.



Broadcasters could just move a portion of their content to cable channels. Or they could simply invest in putting new shows on cable and follow the success of channels like AMC.



There are no amount of laws that could really change that short of the government paying OTA channels to keep the status quo.

betam4x

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Nashville, TN betam4x Member Re: how do you determine must-have programming? said by sparc: This "must-have" programming statement seems rather vague. It's not like they can demand that certain primetime content or sports must only be shown OTA.



Broadcasters could just move a portion of their content to cable channels. Or they could simply invest in putting new shows on cable and follow the success of channels like AMC.



There are no amount of laws that could really change that short of the government paying OTA channels to keep the status quo.

Actually, congress could modify the way big media does business. Require that companies license their content to everyone at an equal and fair price, with price breaks only based upon volume discounts. The whole reason we are having issues with accessible content is due to the stranglehold that big media has on the content itself. If exclusive agreements (company exclusive) were to end and big media weren't allowed to dictate the platform, a much more open and competitive playing field would emerge.

TBBroadband

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Fremont, OH TBBroadband Member Re: how do you determine must-have programming? Since when is Congress able to tell Hollywood how much they're able to charge XX for a show? That was NEVER given to them as power.

betam4x

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Nashville, TN betam4x Member Re: how do you determine must-have programming? I wasn't ever implying that we should be controlling pricing. Controlling pricing and competitiveness are two different things. Congress can easily regulate big media to ensure an open market.



P.S. congress can do whatever the hell they want to do, don't fool yourself.



nonamesleft

join:2011-11-07

Manitowoc, WI nonamesleft Member Go head and go to cable I still won't be going back to pay tv! Seems like they really are trying to kill off OTA tv.

MaynardKrebs

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join:2009-06-17 MaynardKrebs Premium Member Re: Go head and go to cable said by nonamesleft: I still won't be going back to pay tv! Seems like they really are trying to kill off OTA tv.



This is the emergency broadcast system. If you are trying to get this message via an IP network, you're borked because the Chinese military have compromised all US IP networks. Ignore the bright flashes in the sky because by the time you see them it will be too late.

jasondean

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Brooklyn, NY jasondean Member Radio figured it out... If radio can be smart enough to figure out how to get listeners to tune in with new technology (I Heart Radio, etc.) to fight off satellite and iTunes, why can't TV broadcasters get on board? Their relevance in the 21st century is waning and they will soon be out of business. If McCain can get such a bill passed, especially with removing the blackout rule, I'm on board!



morbo

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00000 morbo Member Aereo is a company to watch I hope this bill passes. Aereo has a unique solution to a problem, and is providing an alternative to traditional cable and satellite television subscriptions.

Cobra11M

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Mineral Wells, TX Cobra11M Member Re: Aereo is a company to watch I agree, the cable companies where able to do this back in the day.. why not Aereo... Aereo isnt breaking laws.. and if this bill passes this would tick off Fox.. (which alot of people would like to see) id say break up the tradition that has been goin on for 20+ years.. rural areas will be ones that get hit hardest though, but with this bill it would almost likely prevent the companies from moving to complete cable and selling the spectrum.. which its self is worth a heck of alot.

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travelguy Member A bit misleading... Broadcasters like CBS and Fox have whined that they'll move their broadcast networks behind a cable paywall if Aereo defeats them in court. As mentioned in yesterday's news thread on Aereo, this sentence is a little bit misleading. and not likely to happen. I would rewrite the sentence to say something like this: Networks like CBS and Fox have suggested that they may restrict their prime time / premium programming to cable viewers only, and have their owned and affiliate local stations substitute less valuable programming for OTA viewers if Aereo defeats them in court. As mentioned in yesterday's news thread on Aereo, this sentence is a little bit misleading. and not likely to happen. I would rewrite the sentence to say something like this:



lighthouse

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Burlington, VT lighthouse Member hmm surprised I am. . I guess all those Arizona people could be a great market for this. It would be great for someone that camps or even a mobile home. Tether is threw your cell phone. Or even in the car it could be tethered in the car wifi.

egilbe

join:2011-03-07 egilbe Member Re: hmm Data caps?

Cobra11M

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Mineral Wells, TX Cobra11M Member Re: hmm unless T-Mobile and Sprint be come bigger.. then yeah where gonna have to worry about that big time lol



telcodad

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Lincroft, NJ telcodad MVM McCain's "Television Consumer Freedom Act"



McCain Introduces A La Carte Bill

Television Consumer Freedom Act Would Force Programmers, Operators to Unbundle TV stations, Co-Owned Cable Channels

By John Eggerton, Multichannel News - May 9, 2013

»www.multichannel.com/dis ··· l/143218



Link to the bill: » Some more details on how this would all work are provided in this MCN article:By John Eggerton, Multichannel News - May 9, 2013Link to the bill: » www.mccain.senate.gov/pu ··· 75e8f5d1

telcodad telcodad MVM Re: McCain's "Television Consumer Freedom Act"



McCain bill sparks conflict between ACA and NCTA

By Steve Donohue, FierceCable - May 10, 2013

»www.fiercecable.com/stor ··· 13-05-10 quote: Lobbying groups representing big and small cable operators offered conflicting views on the Television Consumer Freedom Act proposed by Sen. John McCain (R.- Ariz.) Thursday.



The National Cable Television Association (NCTA), whose biggest member is Comcast, called the bill a "lose-lose proposition." But the American Cable Association (ACA), which represents small and mid-sized cable operators, said it supported everything in the bill except a provision that would require cable operators to offer consumers a-la-carte programming options. Also this article on the FierceCable site today:By Steve Donohue, FierceCable - May 10, 2013