gerardfraser said: dasa

Do you think Ryzen owners should not only downclock there CPU but also lower there settings and resolution also.Thanks for sharing ,I guess I could just go downclock Ryzen by 500Mhz to base clock ,lower settings /resolution and see how that works out but it will no be real gameplay scenario for me. Do you think Ryzen owners should not only downclock there CPU but also lower there settings and resolution also.Thanks for sharing ,I guess I could just go downclock Ryzen by 500Mhz to base clock ,lower settings /resolution and see how that works out but it will no be real gameplay scenario for me. Click to expand...

Dan_D said: However, the second largest increase we see in those charts comes from clocking the 6700K to 4.7GHz. We see an increase from 71.8FPS to 76.4FPS. At DDR4 3866MHz, we see an increase from 77.3FPS to 81.7FPS just from the clock speed. The RAM was the same in both those examples. It's also interesting to note that we see less than 1FPS of difference at DDR4 3000MHz to 3866MHz. Click to expand...

It is not so much about underclocking\overclocking but showing is money better spent on RAM\CPU\GPUFor example does it matter if somebody spends $100 extra for 3600x over 3600 or would they be better of putting that $100 into buying 3600c16 over 320016.Or does only GPU matter at higher resolution and they could save $200 by getting a 2600, $100 with cheap RAM and spend that $300 extra on the GPU.The cache and memory interface on Ryzen could make the results come out very different to what one would experience with a Intel 1151 system.This is why I would like to see a user like yourself do a test with different CPU\GPU speeds vs the RAM speed changes.The ideal would of course be to use different hardware but being user reviews we have to work with what we have which means changing clock speeds.Some test lower resolutions to reduce the impact of GPU on the results to show as much as possible the potential increase in CPU performance from higher RAM speeds.If you wish to test real world settings I believe it is important to chart the FPS and GPU usage so people can see where the different speeds meet and just how much of the test is CPU\GPU limited.Although I have found that while GPU usage was a useful tool with my GTX1070 it is useless with the Radeon VII as it maintains 99% usage then downclocks the GPU and seems to buffer a bit.3000MHz was heavily overclocked needing the most v and was the least stable out of all the settings tested, I ran that speed to see if it was bandwidth or latency that mattered as 3000c12 with tweaked subs had the same final latency as 3866c16 with tweaked subs as can be seen in the AIDA64 tests but significantly less bandwidth.The stock speed for the RAM which is faster than most cheap Hynix kits will handle is the 3200c14 XMP setting and this is what you should be comparing with the OC speeds 3000c12\3866c16\4000c17.3200 c14 XMP 71.8FPS to 3866c16 77.3FPS6700K 4.2GHz 71.8FPS to 4.7GHz 76.4FPSCPU\RAM OC combined 81.7FPSMinimum FPS\99th percentile are a important metric but they wont always be due to the CPU\RAM, in fact this can vary from one part of the game to the next.In some games minimum FPS can be completely random I found this to be the case in ARMA while Fallout minimim FPS were extremely accurate.Depending on the level of the game you chose to test at a high res the minimum FPS may be CPU limited or GPU limited.