Hi all,

I currently have 3 devices at home that I have just updated to the latest Windows 10 Build 10586, the dreaded November update that many are having issues with.

My devices are as such:

Desktop PC - i7, 8GB, 64-bit, 2 GB Nvidia GTX 750 Ti, 256 GB SSD

Laptop - emachines E732Z (Piece of **** that is some 4 years old)

Laptop 2 in 1 - acer Aspire R3-13IT-P73T (2 days old)

Now the PC works fine as you would expect with those stats, the emachines thing, that also works fine, both of them have no issues, **** the emachines is even faster now with Windows 10 than it was with Windows 7, for a four year old paper weight that is a good effort from Microsoft to be able to reduce the OS to the point it can run on much older devices, something past versions of Windows would not have been able to do.

The real problem is the new 2 in 1 acer Aspire. Before the update I had zero issues, it ran fine for the first few hours before I decided to do the November update. The update worked fine, albeit it took some time, it did work without issues. Now that it is up and running I am experiencing lag on everything, and when I say everything, I mean everything. Even just having the PC running with NO open programs you can see the mouse lag.

I open Task Manager, all stats are in the low %, only the memory is around 40%, the rest are as low as zero and up to 10% at most, very similar to my PC. Lag still.

I have tested this with any number or variety of programs open, still get the lag. So I tested to ensure it was not just the mouse, opening Google and going into View Source so I can get a long **** page of plain text, press the down arrow and... lag. No matter what I do and how I use it, I get computer lag, not mouse lag, computer lag.

I went through and updated ALL the windows drivers through Device Manager, tried to enable and disable everything I could think of except the default applications that came with the Laptop, I read through every forum I could locate since the update was released to the public that had anything to do with Windows in any form or variety that had others in a similar situation, start up issues, computer lag, video lag, general lag, anything that could be attributed to anything Windows from November onwards, I still face the issue.

Now here is the kicker, I removed something I though to be useless from Device Manager, it was a Trusted Security something, I did not take much issue as to what it was and ran the device Safe Mode. I removed that as it looked to be the only thing I did not actually need, never have I ever had any issues with any of my PC's over the last 25 years that was not directly attributed to my own doing. Lo and behold, no lag. Although nothing really works in Safe Mode, I am happy I don't get the annoying lag.

So far upon restart on the login screen not in Safe Mode, no lag. So either it is that security thing I disabled, or it is a start up program that comes with new fan dangled laptops. Since my emachines is a piece of **** that should be flushed down the toilet, and every time I have decided to take notice of anyone else having any issues with the latest update it was always fancy laptops, touch screens, gaming machines and so on, I attribute it to something that new laptops have which old ones do not.

Now upon starting in normal mode, that Security Device - Trusted Platform Module 2.0 is back. Windows asked me to turn back on some security features after removing this, and when I looked back in Device Manager, it was back. But, no lag. I now have 100% disk usage, decided to turn on everything whilst the Antimalware Service Executable is also running, 100% CPU and 40% Ram, NO LAG. NONE.

10 minutes ago I had lag on the Desktop, I removed that security thing, restarted in Safe Mode, restarted in Normal Mode, NO LAG...

Time for a new restart.

No lag in the login page. No lag on the desktop. No lag when I run all the programs I could get a hold off. It seems either the security thing being removed and re-enabled, or the start in Safe Mode has solved the issue, one or the other, I don't know, I done both at the same time. Either way the security thing is back and I have NO LAG!