dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts Last Edited: 2011-10-11 18:08:46 #1



It's time again to start a new season of ESEA Starcraft 2! ESEA is heading into its 10th season with counterstike 1.6 and source while continuing its third season of Starcraft 2. With the addition to replay upload to report scores, this last season went very well. Our goal for season 3 is to add more coverage and live streams for the viewers to watch with match of the week which can be found at http://www.eseanews.com .





-The format will still be team 1v1 bo3 matchups first team to 3 wins

-Map list TBD

-Prize pool of $5000

-8 week format with 2 matches a week



Sign ups end on 10/17/11 and you must have 4 confirmed paid members to secure a spot. You can click here s10 registration to sign up.



Create a team and register for season 10 of starcraft 2, you do not need to pay for ESEA premium to participate, only the league fee which is $8.00 per person.



You can find the rules here



If anyone has any questions or concerns please email me at dabears@esportsea.com or post in this thread. I will be attending MLG orlando this coming weekend if anyone would like to talk to me about the league. I'm looking forward to this season and to see you guys play.



Starcraft 2 League Commissioner,

Erik "da bears" Stromberg Hello everybody,It's time again to start a new season of ESEA Starcraft 2! ESEA is heading into its 10th season with counterstike 1.6 and source while continuing its third season of Starcraft 2. With the addition to replay upload to report scores, this last season went very well. Our goal for season 3 is to add more coverage and live streams for the viewers to watch with match of the week which can be found at-The format will still be team 1v1 bo3 matchups first team to 3 wins-Map list TBD-Prize pool of $5000-8 week format with 2 matches a weekSign ups end on 10/17/11 and you must have 4 confirmed paid members to secure a spot. You can click hereto sign up.Create a team and register for season 10 of starcraft 2, youneed to pay for ESEA premium to participate, only the league fee which isper person.You can find the rulesIf anyone has any questions or concerns please email me at dabears@esportsea.com or post in this thread. I will be attending MLG orlando this coming weekend if anyone would like to talk to me about the league. I'm looking forward to this season and to see you guys play.Starcraft 2 League Commissioner,Erik "da bears" Stromberg

GTLAllDayEveryDay Profile Joined September 2011 39 Posts #2 i use to play you in CAL-i 3D Da_Bears

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts #3 the good ole days the good ole days

GTLAllDayEveryDay Profile Joined September 2011 39 Posts #4 for you maybe, you were on the best / most popular team in the world =P i was only on xeno and pinnacle haha

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts #5 Those were respectable teams!! Getting into invite in any game is an accomplishment in itself!

juked Profile Joined May 2010 United States 628 Posts #6 Nice job getting ESEA in this. Very good company for source and can only see benefits to SC2

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts Last Edited: 2011-10-11 13:27:54 #7 On October 11 2011 22:23 juked wrote:

Nice job getting ESEA in this. Very good company for source and can only see benefits to SC2



Thanks, doing a whole new game genre has been challenging but ESEA is coming along nicely and we are improving. I really want to have good coverage and streams for matches this season. I love watching Starcraft 2 matches and watching the GSL has been so pleasurable to me. Thanks, doing a whole new game genre has been challenging but ESEA is coming along nicely and we are improving. I really want to have good coverage and streams for matches this season. I love watching Starcraft 2 matches and watching the GSL has been so pleasurable to me.

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts Last Edited: 2011-10-11 16:18:59 #8 I will be looking to tweak the format next season, please leave me feedback on what you would like to see.

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts #9 If anyone is wondering who won last season it was



1st - x6gaming

2nd - EG

3rd - Infinity Seven

Adebisi Profile Blog Joined June 2010 Canada 1621 Posts #10 On October 12 2011 01:17 dbizzle wrote:

I will be looking to tweak the format next season, please leave me feedback on what you would like to see.

Maybe try to avoid a walkover in the finals? O_o; Maybe try to avoid a walkover in the finals? O_o;

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts Last Edited: 2011-10-18 02:34:53 #11 .

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts #12 if anyone is wondering, its an 8 week format with 2 matches a week

iNcontroL Profile Blog Joined July 2004 USA 29048 Posts #13 On October 12 2011 03:01 dbizzle wrote:

that was out of my control, EG attended IPL which they could not play in the finals. It was an unfortunate timing for EG and the schedule for ESEA, I hope in the future we can avoid such conflicts.



Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.



We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.



Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.



It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know! Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know!

LaM Profile Blog Joined September 2011 United States 780 Posts #14 On October 12 2011 03:21 iNcontroL wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2011 03:01 dbizzle wrote:

that was out of my control, EG attended IPL which they could not play in the finals. It was an unfortunate timing for EG and the schedule for ESEA, I hope in the future we can avoid such conflicts.



Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.



We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.



Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.



It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know! Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know!



Hey Incontrol I know the world revolves around you and such, but ESEA is the premier clan league in North America. It turns out they don't only do Starcraft 2 and Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being played, but I'm glad awarding the other team a w/o instantly makes them second class. Everybody doesn't bend over backwards to get fucked by EG? Well then fuck them.



It's posts like this that garner you so many haters. The ESEA admin makes a non inflammatory post that blames nobody, and you come back and talk a load of shit. If somebody said something like this about NASL you would have a half hour sob session on SoTG before making a public scene about how everybody attacks you.



Basically, nobody wants to hear your hypocritical shit. Thanks.

Hey Incontrol I know the world revolves around you and such, but ESEA is the premier clan league in North America. It turns out they don't only do Starcraft 2 and Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being played, but I'm glad awarding the other team a w/o instantly makes them second class. Everybody doesn't bend over backwards to get fucked by EG? Well then fuck them.It's posts like this that garner you so many haters. The ESEA admin makes a non inflammatory post that blames nobody, and you come back and talk a load of shit. If somebody said something like this about NASL you would have a half hour sob session on SoTG before making a public scene about how everybody attacks you.Basically, nobody wants to hear your hypocritical shit. Thanks. Anything is Possible

NrG.NeverExpo Profile Blog Joined December 2008 Canada 2091 Posts #15 On October 12 2011 03:21 iNcontroL wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2011 03:01 dbizzle wrote:

that was out of my control, EG attended IPL which they could not play in the finals. It was an unfortunate timing for EG and the schedule for ESEA, I hope in the future we can avoid such conflicts.



Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.



We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.



Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.



It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know! Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know!

Yea that sounds incredibly stupid. Awarding prize money of that magnitude due to w.o should never ever happen. I'm not sure how much of a say x6 had in all of this, but accepting prize money for getting a w.o is kinda lame too. A championship should always be decided by a final game, never a w.o >.< Yea that sounds incredibly stupid. Awarding prize money of that magnitude due to w.o should never ever happen. I'm not sure how much of a say x6 had in all of this, but accepting prize money for getting a w.o is kinda lame too. A championship should always be decided by a final game, never a w.o >. TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)

jvo Profile Blog Joined December 2010 United States 122 Posts #16 On October 12 2011 03:21 iNcontroL wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2011 03:01 dbizzle wrote:

that was out of my control, EG attended IPL which they could not play in the finals. It was an unfortunate timing for EG and the schedule for ESEA, I hope in the future we can avoid such conflicts.



Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.



We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.



Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.



It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know! Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know!



yea man, NASL's 1st season was great also...give ESEA a break yea man, NASL's 1st season was great also...give ESEA a break

NrG.NeverExpo Profile Blog Joined December 2008 Canada 2091 Posts #17 On October 12 2011 03:28 hunger wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2011 03:21 iNcontroL wrote:

On October 12 2011 03:01 dbizzle wrote:

that was out of my control, EG attended IPL which they could not play in the finals. It was an unfortunate timing for EG and the schedule for ESEA, I hope in the future we can avoid such conflicts.



Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.



We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.



Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.



It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know! Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know!



Hey Incontrol I know the world revolves around you and such, but ESEA is the premier clan league in North America. It turns out they don't only do Starcraft 2 and Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being played, but I'm glad awarding the other team a w/o instantly makes them second class. Everybody doesn't bend over backwards to get fucked by EG? Well then fuck them.



It's posts like this that garner you so many haters. The ESEA admin makes a non inflammatory post that blames nobody, and you come back and talk a load of shit. If somebody said something like this about NASL you would have a half hour sob session on SoTG before making a public scene about how everybody attacks you.



Basically, nobody wants to hear your hypocritical shit. Thanks.

Hey Incontrol I know the world revolves around you and such, but ESEA is the premier clan league in North America. It turns out they don't only do Starcraft 2 and Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being played, but I'm glad awarding the other team a w/o instantly makes them second class. Everybody doesn't bend over backwards to get fucked by EG? Well then fuck them.It's posts like this that garner you so many haters. The ESEA admin makes a non inflammatory post that blames nobody, and you come back and talk a load of shit. If somebody said something like this about NASL you would have a half hour sob session on SoTG before making a public scene about how everybody attacks you.Basically, nobody wants to hear your hypocritical shit. Thanks.

The thing is is that NA is in desperate need for some sort of clan league that is reputable and reliable. So many leagues have been established already, and almost all of them are dead due to horrible organization and management.



The demand is there, and if ESEA wants to take on that project its great, but do it properly. I believe last season they charged $9/person to play in the league. I have been managing a team for a long time and I have never had to pay to enter into an event before (except for live events). Needless to say, if I'm paying money for something like this it better be damn worth it. I'm not sure how the league itself was run, but the decision making that took place in the end seems a little sub-par for a league that boasts itself as a top league in NA e-sports. Bottom line is that if you are entering and participating in a "premium" league, stuff like this shouldn't happen. Play the games, it's the way it was intended to be. The thing is is that NA is in desperate need for some sort of clan league that is reputable and reliable. So many leagues have been established already, and almost all of them are dead due to horrible organization and management.The demand is there, and if ESEA wants to take on that project its great, but do it properly. I believe last season they charged $9/person to play in the league. I have been managing a team for a long time and I have never had to pay to enter into an event before (except for live events). Needless to say, if I'm paying money for something like this it better be damn worth it. I'm not sure how the league itself was run, but the decision making that took place in the end seems a little sub-par for a league that boasts itself as a top league in NA e-sports. Bottom line is that if you are entering and participating in a "premium" league, stuff like this shouldn't happen. Play the games, it's the way it was intended to be. TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)

KawaiiRice Profile Blog Joined May 2007 United States 2908 Posts #18 On October 12 2011 03:28 hunger wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2011 03:21 iNcontroL wrote:

On October 12 2011 03:01 dbizzle wrote:

that was out of my control, EG attended IPL which they could not play in the finals. It was an unfortunate timing for EG and the schedule for ESEA, I hope in the future we can avoid such conflicts.



Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.



We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.



Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.



It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know! Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know!



Hey Incontrol I know the world revolves around you and such, but ESEA is the premier clan league in North America. It turns out they don't only do Starcraft 2 and Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being played, but I'm glad awarding the other team a w/o instantly makes them second class. Everybody doesn't bend over backwards to get fucked by EG? Well then fuck them.



It's posts like this that garner you so many haters. The ESEA admin makes a non inflammatory post that blames nobody, and you come back and talk a load of shit. If somebody said something like this about NASL you would have a half hour sob session on SoTG before making a public scene about how everybody attacks you.



Basically, nobody wants to hear your hypocritical shit. Thanks.

Hey Incontrol I know the world revolves around you and such, but ESEA is the premier clan league in North America. It turns out they don't only do Starcraft 2 and Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being played, but I'm glad awarding the other team a w/o instantly makes them second class. Everybody doesn't bend over backwards to get fucked by EG? Well then fuck them.It's posts like this that garner you so many haters. The ESEA admin makes a non inflammatory post that blames nobody, and you come back and talk a load of shit. If somebody said something like this about NASL you would have a half hour sob session on SoTG before making a public scene about how everybody attacks you.Basically, nobody wants to hear your hypocritical shit. Thanks.

ESEA was doing this crap the season before as well. I hadn't followed this league because it's impossible to follow it anyway, but good to know that their rules and schedules are getting worse over time...



BTW that's really disgusting to award a finals walkover lol ........ ESEA was doing this crap the season before as well. I hadn't followed this league because it's impossible to follow it anyway, but good to know that their rules and schedules are getting worse over time...BTW that's really disgusting to award a finals walkover lol ........ @KawaiiRiceLighT

dbizzle Profile Joined May 2010 United States 393 Posts Last Edited: 2011-10-18 02:35:11 #19 .

iNcontroL Profile Blog Joined July 2004 USA 29048 Posts #20 On October 12 2011 03:48 dbizzle wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2011 03:21 iNcontroL wrote:

On October 12 2011 03:01 dbizzle wrote:

that was out of my control, EG attended IPL which they could not play in the finals. It was an unfortunate timing for EG and the schedule for ESEA, I hope in the future we can avoid such conflicts.



Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.



We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.



Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.



It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know! Nah it was horrible management by ESEA.We waited several weeks for the other teams to catch up in schedule. It was delayed over and over again and finally ESEA steps in and wants to put their foot down on a schedule that is exactly at the same time as IPL. The internet goes down at IPL and we cannot play but ESEA decides it is best to just award a w/o in the grand finals of their tourney.Horrific decision making. Horrible schedule management.It's shit like this that will forever hold ESEA as a second rate clan league that continues to disappoint and get lackluster attention. How can a community take an organization serious when it basically castrates it's own finals? Nobody wants to see a w/o.. people are here to see games. But hey, if you guys want to just shuffle money our direction and continue to run a clan league that nobody is watching/caring about then that is fine. If you want to get serious and join the other organizations in running legit tourneys where people rally around and get excited let us know!



Incontrol, I have talked to EG management on the phone and it is unfortunate what has happened. I do not wish to go into details on a public forum to bash your team but handle this in a professional way. There are always 2 sides to a story and it was your team that could not make the finals, whether you attend a major lan or not. Our league does not revolve around EG and their busy schedules. If you cannot field 4 ppl out of your 8 man roster then I'd suggest getting back ups for situations like that. Sometimes things get delayed, especially online leagues, I've been talking to your managers all season about scheduling and everything. To say that it was horrible schedule management is just bashing with out even thinking when you weren't involved in any of it.



Awarding a walkover finals is the absolute last thing I EVER want to do, I had no choice because ESEA is on a time schedule and I post-poned as much as possible to bend over for many teams. I am sorry that you guys had to forfeit and each season is running better and better. Incontrol, I have talked to EG management on the phone and it is unfortunate what has happened. I do not wish to go into details on a public forum to bash your team but handle this in a professional way. There are always 2 sides to a story and it was your team that could not make the finals, whether you attend a major lan or not. Our league does not revolve around EG and their busy schedules. If you cannot field 4 ppl out of your 8 man roster then I'd suggest getting back ups for situations like that. Sometimes things get delayed, especially online leagues, I've been talking to your managers all season about scheduling and everything. To say that it was horrible schedule management is just bashing with out even thinking when you weren't involved in any of it.Awarding a walkover finals is the absolute last thing I EVER want to do, I had no choice because ESEA is on a time schedule and I post-poned as much as possible to bend over for many teams. I am sorry that you guys had to forfeit and each season is running better and better.



Excuse me? We were current on our cw's for literally 2 weeks WAITING for the other teams to finish their cw's before the finals. We literally had a 2 week window of time where a competent league would have gotten the other teams current on their schedules and allowed a window of time for the finals to be played instead of "we are waiting, waiting waiting.. OH ok we have 2 teams now! You have 2 days to play it! Can't? Ah ok, sup x6 is winner!"



Don't give me this "the world doesn't revolve around EG" bullshit. I am not asking it to nor do I think it does. I am talking about a league that is artificially rigid with it's timelines whenever it suits the few individuals and not the greater league. You didn't ever say "it must be played by X date" you just simply sucked ass at getting teams to play in a timely fashion and decided to punish EG who was ahead of schedule for a long time. It's bullshit.



You saying "EG should have backups" when discussing the finals btw is hilarious. Do you have any fucking interest in a finals for a league? Do you care about the games integrity at all?



And no, each season is not running better and better. This season ended with a walkover and a shitty thread announcing the next season with a "oh btw here are the places for the previous season: "



Kidding me? That sounds better to you? Excuse me? We were current on our cw's for literally 2 weeks WAITING for the other teams to finish their cw's before the finals. We literally had a 2 week window of time where a competent league would have gotten the other teams current on their schedules and allowed a window of time for the finals to be played instead of "we are waiting, waiting waiting.. OH ok we have 2 teams now! You have 2 days to play it! Can't? Ah ok, sup x6 is winner!"Don't give me this "the world doesn't revolve around EG" bullshit. I am not asking it to nor do I think it does. I am talking about a league that is artificially rigid with it's timelines whenever it suits the few individuals and not the greater league. You didn't ever say "it must be played by X date" you just simply sucked ass at getting teams to play in a timely fashion and decided to punish EG who was ahead of schedule for a long time. It's bullshit.You saying "EG should have backups" when discussing the finals btw is hilarious. Do you have any fucking interest in a finals for a league? Do you care about the games integrity at all?And no, each season is not running better and better. This season ended with a walkover and a shitty thread announcing the next season with a "oh btw here are the places for the previous season: "Kidding me? That sounds better to you?

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