The National’s Bryce Dessner sat down with Kyle Meredith to discuss I Am Easy To Find and how it not only redefines what – or who – The National can be, but exactly what a band even is. While numerous guests are always part of the band’s albums, the two also dive into the details of how filmmaker Mike Mills played a crucial role in the LP, producing and writing alongside the band while creating a short movie to accompany the record. Bryce also talks a bit about his most recent solo offerings and how all of this opens the door wide open for what the band does from here on.

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