Phil Robertson and his sons Al and Jase, who starred in the hit television show “Duck Dynasty,” praised President Donald Trump’s “evolution” as a Christian, despite his allegedly “tough background.” Phil said that Trump had shown them “that he’s not anti-God.”

During an episode of BlazeTV’s “Unashamed” podcast uploaded Sunday, the Robertsons discussed Phil Robertson’s speech at a Trump rally on Nov. 7 in Monroe, Louisiana, where Phil Robertson told the crowd, “If you’re pro-God, and pro-America, and pro-gun, and pro-duck hunting, that’s all I want.” Al Robertson said Trump had his fourth conversation with his father since 2016 at the rally.

Al Robertson said the Robertsons met Trump for the first time at an event in Washington, D.C., “just to shake his hand, and Trump was more like, ‘Yeah, I love this guy. He stays at our hotels.’” But Al Robertson said the second time Trump met Phil Robertson was different.

“The second time, you actually shared the gospel with him, and that was right before he got elected,” Al Robertson said. “And then the third time, he called you to congratulate you on your book, and in that conversation–[Jase] said this–he said, ‘Phil, you’re one of the wisest men in America.’ Remember when he said that? So, that’s what he’s said about Dad. So, he has seen that and realized—so this, the conversation you had with him at the rally, was the fourth conversation.”

“That showed us that he’s not anti-God,” Phil Robertson said.

“That’s exactly right,” Al Robertson said.

“Come out of a tough background,” Phil Robertson said, before his son cut him off.

“He’s evolving in the right direction,” Al Robertson said.

Jase Robertson went on to share that he is in communication with the president’s adult son Donald Trump Jr. and poked fun at the president’s son for using too many emojis to communicate. Phil Robertson said he had never heard of emojis.

In 2013, Phil Robertson caused national controversy after he likened homosexuality to bestiality and said black people were happy before the civil rights movement in an interview with GQ magazine. Since the Robertsons’ A&E Network show was cancelled, many Robertsons have become politically active, going to bat for the religious right and the GOP.