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GnomoVIPHero MemberActivity: 840Merit: 1000 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward. May 20, 2012, 11:14:13 AM

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I had a guy send me 400 BTC. Only the address I gave him was not my address but an address that someone used to send me bitcoin in October.



1DMLq4UF1yWn9kTC8a6fvVcMzLizuShaz this is the address.



I assume that this was a pool that I was mining at (but that is a guess).



If anyone has any ideas I would be grateful.



10% or 40 BTC reward for information that leads to the return of the coins. Meaning if I get the coins back I pay out 40 BTC to who helped me.



Thank you.



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LegendaryActivity: 2184Merit: 1053Affordable Physical Bitcoins - Denarium.com Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 20, 2012, 02:48:43 PM #11 Quote from: cbeast on May 20, 2012, 02:40:58 PM If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof. Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.



I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous. Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous. here! Denarium closing sale discounts now up to 43%! Check out our products from

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DonatorLegendaryActivity: 1736Merit: 1002Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs. Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 20, 2012, 03:17:47 PM #12 Quote from: Technomage on May 20, 2012, 02:48:43 PM Quote from: cbeast on May 20, 2012, 02:40:58 PM If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof. Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.



I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous.

Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous. I don't mean a change in Bitcoin, just make the client a little more idiot proof. For instance, the address book and the transaction pages look very similar and could be confused if one were distracted. Maybe simply requiring a label would help this. Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.

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LegendaryActivity: 910Merit: 1000Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 20, 2012, 06:18:57 PM #20 I bet I am not the only one who likes to ask: Goat, who is that four eyed fat white fuck on your icon? How much did he pay for you to get the picture taken?

While reading what I wrote, use the most friendliest and relaxing voice in your head.

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Mike CaldwellVIPLegendaryActivity: 1386Merit: 1064The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B) Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 20, 2012, 06:40:05 PM #22 I think it should be possible to find numerous other addresses that belong to the same wallet...



for example, all of these other addresses must be in the same wallet because they combined funds from that address within a transaction.



1EJqEgnZzjdGgGNJYd4LyZ6Q1VDw3DfqZY

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Here are a bunch more addresses that might be part of that same wallet - but only if some assumptions I have made about which is the "change" and which isn't are correct. This payer seems to habitually pay amounts just 0.005 BTC shy of a full bitcoin. (It could be a service that charges a 0.005 transaction fee on withdrawals)



1KXNSsa4B6fSMeL6dif3eYsj3LvVAKnfWR

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1BY561eAqtaRScvx7cKzNp6cqxU7joxoN4

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15UUvE2nAQ1RocSiCmb28y4CD6uvwhVErx

14ULRw47osGnACc6i9JMyJP2oYv6Ct6ZSM

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LegendaryActivity: 2100Merit: 1040 Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 20, 2012, 09:05:07 PM #28 Quote from: Technomage on May 20, 2012, 02:48:43 PM Quote from: cbeast on May 20, 2012, 02:40:58 PM If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof. Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.



I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous.

Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous.

Only triple check for 3k BTC? May be I'm nuts but I still check 5+ times for amounts that size even for normal bank transfers. May be I'll tune it down when I'm crazy rich Only triple check for 3k BTC? May be I'm nuts but I still check 5+ times for amounts that size even for normal bank transfers. May be I'll tune it down when I'm crazy rich

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The word on IRC is that these private services which pay >100% PPS in BTC for mining are doing this because they're attempting to get rid of 'dirty' coins which could potentially be traced in exchange for freshly mined coins. Certainly this is the only thing I've heard that makes any economic sense at all, but if it's true don't the miners have a right to know what role they're playing in this and what risk they're taking?



Have I got it wrong? Can you help me understand what the business is here?





Certainly a reasonable question.



That part was cartoonishly presented, but the important part that you left out was the legitimate question that follows:Certainly a reasonable question.

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DonatorLegendaryActivity: 2058Merit: 1007Poor impulse control. Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 21, 2012, 02:37:03 AM #38 Quote from: shockD on May 21, 2012, 01:59:32 AM



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The word on IRC is that these private services which pay >100% PPS in BTC for mining are doing this because they're attempting to get rid of 'dirty' coins which could potentially be traced in exchange for freshly mined coins. Certainly this is the only thing I've heard that makes any economic sense at all, but if it's true don't the miners have a right to know what role they're playing in this and what risk they're taking?



Have I got it wrong? Can you help me understand what the business is here?





Certainly a reasonable question.



That part was cartoonishly presented, but the important part that you left out was the legitimate question that follows:Certainly a reasonable question.

Everyone knows Goat was doing a pool hopping proxy, so it's not much of a question now. And ignoring that - marked coins? Tainted coins spread so rapidly that before long everyone has some. As for " Certainly this is the only thing I've heard that makes any economic sense at all" then for a miner gmaxwell didn't think too hard. Pool hopping was the first thing that came to my mind.



What gmaxwell say can be said for many ventures in btc-land. Maybe he hassles everyone equally - I don't know. But what Goat was doing was plain to me from the outset. Everyone knows Goat was doing a pool hopping proxy, so it's not much of a question now. And ignoring that - marked coins? Tainted coins spread so rapidly that before long everyone has some. As for " Certainly this is the only thing I've heard that makes any economic sense at all" then for a miner gmaxwell didn't think too hard. Pool hopping was the first thing that came to my mind.What gmaxwell say can be said for many ventures in btc-land. Maybe he hassles everyone equally - I don't know. But what Goat was doing was plain to me from the outset.

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LegendaryActivity: 980Merit: 1000I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 21, 2012, 05:15:47 AM #45 So i keep getting PM's and to stop them all here is my response: From my understanding, Apparently I sent Bitcoins from the Bitcoin address listed in the above reported accidental incident. I've looked through all my backups and I have not found 401.xx BTC or any outrageously large numbers - actually to my disappointment I found a few satoshis'. Anyways if I do happen to find the wallet I was using I will be sure to alert the OP that I can send the funds.

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Hero MemberActivity: 714Merit: 500^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12. Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 21, 2012, 08:08:56 AM #52

He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.



Quote from: twobitcoins on May 21, 2012, 04:54:56 AM So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread. It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service. The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service the address belonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.



Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that Xenland is misunderstanding.He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service thebelonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that Bitcoin-OTC rating

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LegendaryActivity: 980Merit: 1000I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 21, 2012, 10:42:17 AM #55 Quote from: BTCurious on May 21, 2012, 08:08:56 AM

He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.



Quote from: twobitcoins on May 21, 2012, 04:54:56 AM So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread. It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service. The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service the address belonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.



Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that

Xenland is misunderstanding.He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service thebelonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that

ehrrr??? That actually sorta cleared up some confusion but still sorta lost how I am required of any information. If I'm being asked what service I sent from its my wallet or glbse or possibly mtgox. but if i'm asked what service I sent it too lol i have no idea..... ehrrr??? That actually sorta cleared up some confusion but still sorta lost how I am required of any information. If I'm being asked what service I sent from its my wallet or glbse or possibly mtgox. but if i'm asked what service I sent it too lol i have no idea.....

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LegendaryActivity: 3066Merit: 1067Think for yourself Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 22, 2012, 03:34:41 PM #64 Quote from: cbeast on May 20, 2012, 02:40:58 PM If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof.



Making anything "foolproof" just breeds more efficient fools.



Maybe a higher expectation of people to exercise a little bit of personal responsibility would be more productive.



It seems to me Goat has demonstrated the proper attitude in taking responsibility and helping us all to learn a valuable lesson.



But hey, I'm just weird that way,

Sam Making anything "foolproof" just breeds more efficient fools.Maybe a higher expectation of people to exercise a little bit of personal responsibility would be more productive.It seems to me Goat has demonstrated the proper attitude in taking responsibility and helping us all to learn a valuable lesson.But hey, I'm just weird that way,Sam A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.

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LegendaryActivity: 3066Merit: 1067Think for yourself Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. Help please 40 BTC reward. May 22, 2012, 03:52:39 PM #65 Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on May 22, 2012, 03:43:41 PM Quote from: os2sam on May 22, 2012, 03:34:41 PM Quote from: cbeast on May 20, 2012, 02:40:58 PM If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof.



Making anything "foolproof" just breeds more efficient fools.



Maybe a higher expectation of people to exercise a little bit of personal responsibility would be more productive.



It seems to me Goat has demonstrated the proper attitude in taking responsibility and helping us all to learn a valuable lesson.



But hey, I'm just weird that way,

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Making anything "foolproof" just breeds more efficient fools.Maybe a higher expectation of people to exercise a little bit of personal responsibility would be more productive.It seems to me Goat has demonstrated the proper attitude in taking responsibility and helping us all to learn a valuable lesson.But hey, I'm just weird that way,Sam

Well bitcoin is not foolproof enough for my parents and it will never be for my grandparents. and yeah, i fucked up and I was multi tasking and very distracted.



The community here has helped me track it down to odds are GLBSE 1.0 so maybe I have a shot of getting it back.



if so that would be awesome. I did open a ticket about it at the request of nefario and I know he is busy and fail like this is not, nor should be his priority.





Well bitcoin is not foolproof enough for my parents and it will never be for my grandparents. and yeah, i fucked up and I was multi tasking anddistracted.The community here has helped me track it down to odds are GLBSE 1.0 so maybe I have a shot of getting it back.if so that would be awesome. I did open a ticket about it at the request of nefario and I know he is busy and fail like this is not, nor should be his priority.

I hope your successful in getting your coins back. Even the possibility says allot about the bitcoin community.



To make transactions more foolproof will ultimately take away the anonymity and privacy that is now inherent in Bitcoin.



In time there will be more mature services and new devices which will ameliorate error's like this, if one chooses to make use of them and therefore relinquish some privacy and anonymity.

Sam I hope your successful in getting your coins back. Even the possibility says allot about the bitcoin community.To make transactions more foolproof will ultimately take away the anonymity and privacy that is now inherent in Bitcoin.In time there will be more mature services and new devices which will ameliorate error's like this, if one chooses to make use of them and therefore relinquish some privacy and anonymity.Sam A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.

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I have to say that it was really me the person who sent the 400 bitcoins to the address that Goat said.

I thought Goat was the kind of person I could really trust my money and as such I made a deal with him to purchase some of his bonds at an agreed upon pre-IPO price.



In order to make the reserve, I had to send the coins before the IPO so following his instructions I send my coins to the address he gave me. Although I planned to send higher amounts of money, fortunately I decided to send 400 BTCs first and wait for Goat's confirmation before sending the rest of the coins.



Following my plan I sent the first 400 bitcoins to him but two hours later I got a PM from Goat asking me to stop sending more bitcoins to that address. I did not know what had happened until I got another message from him. In the new message he said that he gave me a bad address, it was 100% his fault and he was willing to pay me back.



I fully trusted his word so despite this mistake I keep on making business with him, but this time sending the bitcoins to a new bitcoin address that he fully double check in order to be sure he could receive the coins.



Today Goat has successfully transferred the bonds I bought so he really kept his word.



I would like to give public recognition to Goat, as he has taken care of this issue and assume full responsibility for his fault from the very first moment.



As a bitcoin trader, for me trust is the only thing as valuable as bitcoin. As now Goat's reputation and trustworthiness is on the rise I am confident that he will recover from this loss very soon and make big money as people will really want to do business with someone like him.



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Hero MemberActivity: 518Merit: 500 Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. 40 BTC reward. May 24, 2012, 04:00:46 PM #81 Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on May 24, 2012, 06:17:56 AM Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on May 24, 2012, 04:10:04 AM I am very pleased to report that this has a very happy ending:)



Today when I woke up I found 400 BTC in my GLBSE account. I also had an e-mail from GLBSE support letting me know that they had moved over the funds!



Very epic thank you GLBSE staff/ Nefario for going out of your way to assist me.





I would like to ask Maged to help in dividing the 40 BTC reward. 40 BTC will be given out for sure, but I do not have the technological understanding to know who helped the most and who should get what share.



Thank you all!





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Did you read this?





For all those don't know, a guy accidentally sent Bulanula 25BTC, proved it was his address and Bulanula publicly acknowledges receiving it but refused to return it, earning a Scammer Tag.



More trash talk from the biggest SoiledCon supporter on the forums.



I did not want to give him a refund after he attacked me publicly. I offered instead 10 months ( what he paid for with the 25 BTC ) of sig ad space and 2 months bonus but the guy did not want this and he wanted me scammer tagged for not giving him the refund. Lame but I don't care anyway.













@BulanulaDid you read this?More trash talk from the biggest SoiledCon supporter on the forums.I did not want to give him a refund after he attacked me publicly. I offered instead 10 months ( what he paid for with the 25 BTC ) of sig ad space and 2 months bonus but the guy did not want this and he wanted me scammer tagged for not giving him the refund. Lame but I don't care anyway.

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Hero MemberActivity: 518Merit: 500 Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward. May 24, 2012, 04:38:15 PM #82 I saw it and I would have done the same if somebody sent me XXX BTC for nothing. I



My case was different. Because he attacked me without giving me chance to return the 22.5 BTC I refused to give refund but instead chose to give him service he paid for.



He did not want to accept service but wanted to get me scammer tag and never see the BTC back.

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Mike CaldwellVIPLegendaryActivity: 1386Merit: 1064The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B) Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward. May 24, 2012, 05:12:22 PM #83 Quote from: bulanula on May 24, 2012, 04:38:15 PM I saw it and I would have done the same if somebody sent me XXX BTC for nothing. I



My case was different. Because he attacked me without giving me chance to return the 22.5 BTC I refused to give refund but instead chose to give him service he paid for.



He did not want to accept service but wanted to get me scammer tag and never see the BTC back.



This is a load of crap - there's 25 pages of indefensible excuses as to why he doesn't want to give the money back. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78386



tl;dr: they can all be ignored. Bulanula owes the 22.5 BTC, has no good reason for keeping it, there is no question he owes it (based on his own admissions), and is just being a jerk. All of his "official forum scammer" crap is just a diversion to make his real scammer tag look like it's just a joke. This is a load of crap - there's 25 pages of indefensible excuses as to why he doesn't want to give the money back. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78386tl;dr: they can all be ignored. Bulanula owes the 22.5 BTC, has no good reason for keeping it, there is no question he owes it (based on his own admissions), and is just being a jerk. All of his "official forum scammer" crap is just a diversion to make his real scammer tag look like it's just a joke. Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable. I never believe them. If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins. I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion. Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice. Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.

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Mike CaldwellVIPLegendaryActivity: 1386Merit: 1064The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B) Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward. May 24, 2012, 07:41:16 PM #93 Somehow I think this thread is a great case study for what it takes to track down the owner of an address.



Impossible to go it alone, but as people with different pieces of the puzzle start piling them all in one place - and so long as all are willing to cooperate - with persistence, a breakthrough. Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable. I never believe them. If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins. I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion. Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice. Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.

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Mike CaldwellVIPLegendaryActivity: 1386Merit: 1064The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B) Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward. May 25, 2012, 04:52:25 AM #96 My address is 1BowSerbsenLBELbwR5aZE1aqy7ooGCydT, though it's completely your call. No reward is required, but if you send one, I'll remember it for a long time! (That address is one on a paper wallet that I don't plan to import for a while, I treat the page on Block Explorer sort of how one might treat a "barnstar" page on Wikipedia.) Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable. I never believe them. If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins. I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion. Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice. Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.

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Mike CaldwellVIPLegendaryActivity: 1386Merit: 1064The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B) Re: 400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward. May 25, 2012, 05:00:25 AM #98 Quote from: organofcorti on May 25, 2012, 04:56:00 AM 10 characters? How long did that take to generate? Or did you convert a farm to solving a vanityGen for a while? Either way, impressive!



Only "Bowser" was the desired prefix, case insensitive, the rest are random. In fact I almost don't like it, because "Serbs" is an actual word that detracts from the intended prefix. Only "Bowser" was the desired prefix, case insensitive, the rest are random. In fact I almost don't like it, because "Serbs" is an actual word that detracts from the intended prefix. Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable. I never believe them. If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins. I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion. Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice. Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.