Justpassedu said: Hey all been using my hopper for 2 weeks now but mostly using it for that quick pick me up hit not as my main vape. I have a question though - I notice i need to be at temp 3-4 to actually get visible vapor but when does vapor start forming for everyone ? I have to take at-least a 15-20 second pull to get some visible vapor coming out of my mouth and a nice hit. There is not 1 time i have picked it up at any temp and took a pull under 10 seconds and had vapor coming out of my mouth on exhale. I also have to pull pretty hard to get it going. My girlfriend cant really use this vape with me bc she takes small draws and when i handed her the hopper it did not do anything for her , also it shut off on her. In order for her to get some vapor from it i have to pull the 1st 15 seconds and quickly hand it off and tell her to start pulling. So main question is how long and hard of a pull do you all need to get some vapor ? I am wondering if i should contact hopper labs or not bc maybe possibly something is wrong or this may just be the nature of this beast . Click to expand...

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I have just given my new hopper a few hours of trials, and in spite of thinking I would understand exactly how to use it since I've spent an entire year waiting for it, I'm having very similar experiences as @Justpassedu has expressed very well, so I'll reference it below rather than position it as a "reply".First of all, I've used Pax since it came out, so I had expectations that I'm really not sure are being met.OK, so, the backend doesn't get hot at all, the battery seems to live for a good number of long pulls (though the Nitecore says it's still sitting at 62% when the hopper flashes red), and there is "only" one other odd behavior: Twice so far, while using the bubbler and the silicone tip, the hopper just decided to shut offI was drawing. Poof, just like that. Re-clicking didn't turn it on, but the next click did. This does not seem like "auto shut off", but it was nearly 15 seconds I was drawing.... and I'm drawing for 15 seconds because......the vapor is just not that thick. It's nothing like I've seen.I don't pack it tight; in fact, it's a pinch or two. And it's dry.I've used it above setting 3.5, 3.75, 4, and 4.25 (roughly, obviously!). I haven't tried 5 yet (mainly because I feel I shouldn'tto, since I've seen and watched others (videos) of spewing vicious clouds without using "5". So there!So I really don't even know what to ask! I kind of refuse to think that I have to fry this at the highest setting to be satisfied with the vapor. Iit's medicating, but it's no more impressive than my Pax.I guess I'll just keep trying different approaches, but, I'm not over the moon about my hopper yet.Thanks for reading