Conservative pundit and short-lived Republican presidential candidate Dennis Michael Lynch guest-hosted Steve Malzberg’s Newsmax TV show yesterday, where he invited ACT! for America’s Brigitte Gabriel to discuss her efforts to keep the U.S. from resettling refugees from Syria’s civil war.

Gabriel, who will be speaking alongside several GOP presidential candidates at this week’s Values Voter Summit, claimed that Muslim refugees currently in the country “are not assimilating because they have a different value system,” which “will prevent them from assimilating no matter how long they stay in our country.”

“They are coming to your neighborhood,” she warned, “they are coming to your state, you need to know who’s coming and how many of them are coming and whether you can stop it.”

Lynch then asked Gabriel about his theory that President Obama is intentionally allowing ISIS to gain territory in order to cause a refugee crisis that will in turn “transform” America.

“He said he was going to fundamentally transform America,” Lynch said. “I’ve always believed he was going to do it through immigration. There is a part of me that believes he did not want to take out ISIS, he does not want to take out ISIS, because it creates an incredible refugee issue. … Do you think this is all part of his plan?”

“Yes it is,” Gabriel agreed, “and he is already partly changing America because that’s his values. He does not believe in American exceptionalism, he believes that America has to be on par with the rest of the world and therefore we are all one, and that’s why he wants to intermingle America, to have a population of every corner of the world, whether or not they are equal to us or not.”