It’s been a great week for Trump watching. On Wednesday, he said that Obama “founded” Isis. This is not true, any more than it is true that the President founded Gnosticism or the Ebola virus – but Trump, like Tom Petty, won’t back down. Talk show host Hugh Hewitt tried to interpret what he meant in an interview, with fascinating results:

HH: Last night, you said the President was the founder of ISIS. I know what you meant. You meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace.

DT: No, I meant he’s the founder of ISIS. I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.

HH: But he’s not sympathetic to them. He hates them. He’s trying to kill them.

DT: I don’t care. He was the founder. His, the way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, okay?