Shadowjack said: —never mind that peace and rainbows literary bullshit— Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Misato invites herself onto the Bridge, "Ding-dong, Angel calling!" Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: This whole sequence basically sums up Asuka's relationship with Shinji: She berates him for even daring to look at her, but grabs him by the hand and won't let him leave. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Ah, Asuka has learned from the grown-ups well. (And we see how Shinji clings to manuals and regulations to provide structure to life.) Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Production note: I understand that the English-language voice actress speaks good German, and helped rewrite the lines for the English dub. I don't listen to the English dub much, but I flipped over for this scene to check, and, yes, it definitely shows. Her delivery is fluid and sounds closer to what German I remember from college. Whereas the original seems to be more, er, whatever the equivalent of Engrish is. Doitsu? Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Gaghiel /whale noises. "Aaalllllll IIIIII waaaaaanteeeed tooooo dooooo waaaaaassss snuuuuuggllllllle… IIIIIII'mmmmm sooooooo looooooonelyyyyyy…" Click to expand...

No-Brand Hero said: Nobody in their right mind would deny that Akane Tendo is not an archetypical tsundere, and she predates Asuka by almost ten years. Click to expand...

No-Brand Hero said: Asuka, like everything else in the show, is a brutal subversion of a common anime trope. Click to expand...

No-Brand Hero said: The person who is supposed to spar with her in thinly-veiled romantic tension is instead terrified of her Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: When I made the crack earlier about Shinji seeming to other girls like a young Tuxedo Mask—calm, gentle, quietly gazing at the sky, and all that—I realized that Asuka would totally dig being wooed with roses and all in a suitably formal and gallant fashion.



She would promptly do her level best to sabotage it. (i don't deserve it i don't need it he's all wrong for me what if someone finds out maybe he's lying what if he goes away too no no no) But there'd also be a part of her going SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE he LIKES me! Click to expand...

Kurotowa said: I'm coming to the opinion that this is what usually happens when there's a new and innovative fictional work. There's a demand for more, so other writers try and do something in the same style. But they always end up seizing onto the trivial surface details while missing the important substance behind them. Click to expand...

Kurotowa said: In Evangelion's case, I think it definitely happened with the popularity of Rei and Asuka. Thinking about it, I'd agree that Asuka was a key milestone on the evolution of the tsundere. Click to expand...

Kurotowa said: For Rei, it comes to mind that the archetype that devolved from her was moe. Cute, helpless, in need of protecting and a good warm hug. Nothing at all like her actual character, of course, but something you can trace to a surface impression of her. Click to expand...

anowack said: a good portion of the fanbase that despises Male!Shinji for being whiny and unassertive would probably find her to be a much more sympathetic character. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: and what about the other Reis Click to expand...

No-Brand Hero said: That's from the EVA AU where Yui was the lead developer on the SDF-1 Resurrection Project and ends up married to ace pilot Hikaru Ichijo... Click to expand...

Old Toby said: Key is very sad that everybody thinks Rei was the original quiet grey synthetic girl. Key debuted in Dec. 1994, Rei in Oct. 1995. Key needs to have 30,000 friends. Will you be Key's friend? Click to expand...

ANT Pogo said: As TV Tropes says, the trope originator and the trope codifier aren't always the same thing. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Wow, I remember a time when I was stumbling across ads for that all over, but never saw it, and completely forgot about it since. But now that I have… *adds it to the list* Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: And GAINAX looked upon the works of Genndy Tartakovsky, and said, "Lo! These are awesome!"



And GAINAX said, "Why don't we try doing that?"



And GAINAX said, "Let there be a Japanese interpretation of American hybridization of mid-20th-century American styles and late-20th-century Japanese styles using modern techniques and pop-art sensibilities."



And GAINAX said, "Let there also be sex."



And it was so. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: I think very shortly Asuka and Shinji will be paired together in the public mind, whether they want to be or not. After all, they're both cute pilots, right? Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Ritsuko's analyzing Angel data when Kaji embraces her from behind, and boy does she melt! Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: I like the games they play with the videophones in this episode. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Misato /materializes, smiling. "It's because the Japanese way is to consider the priorities and needs of others before one's own." Click to expand... Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: It occurs to me that despite being German, Asuka seems closely aligned with America. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: She's got a Plan! A simultaneous two-point attack on each Angel's core, choreographed with music! You two will train together as a team! From now on, soldiers, you live under the same roof. You will study together, you will eat together, you will sleep together— Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Ah, okay, I see where people have gotten confused over the years. Okay, folks? The cute redhead who whines, bitches, and moans isn't named Shinji, her name is Asuka. Shinji is the name of the quiet bishie boy. I can understand where you got confused, since the characters often appear together. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: You probably just got mixed up by right-to-left Japanese captions. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: I'm go camp out now on Hill Hill Hill Hill in shame. Click to expand...

No-Brand Hero said: I love that they actually have a giant EVA-scale floating recovery ring. They're like Batman-prepared for supporting EVAs, which makes it weird that they're so deficient in so many other ways. Click to expand...

Ashikaider said: SJ: don't worry about it. There's a neighbourhood in Boulder, Colorado called "Table Mesa", which as you most likely know, means "Table Table". Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Either Rei is taking college courses on the side, or this is personal interest. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: "What would a pretty girl like her see in a dork like me?"



"He sees right through me, I know it, and he must hate me." Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Yes, and I do give props to Sadamoto for playing that up a bit in the comic.



Haven't done it yet, but in the manga, instead of primitive DDR, they actually do a full ballet/ballroom routine. When Rei and Shinji start dancing, there's obviously a shared bond.



But when Asuka and Shinji finally start dancing together (instead of against each other), there's chemistry. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Actually, a dose of My Neighbour Totoro might be a good after-dinner mint, so to speak. Click to expand...

Kreuzritter said: ficwise, most authors retranslate that to "this is my absolute territory!" Click to expand...

Rogue 7 said: Oh, hey, it's those two girls I only know as being the vague precursors to Subaru and Ginga Nakajima. I should probably watch that sometime. Click to expand...

JeanneHedge said: Kazumi is "Oneesama" to Noriko throughout the series... anyone remember what was going on when Noriko *finally* called her by her given name? Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Should have practiced on mice, first, but they only have these little teeny, tiny souls… Real pain to work with. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: People'd see them sitting near each other sometimes and might not even realize that they were an item… Click to expand...

No-Brand Hero said: Nobody Dies kinda separates itself from canon well before the point where the contact experiment occurs anyway. Doesn't make it any less of a fun story. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: We can see how Maya and Hyuga are like shadows of their respective commanders (and, gee, Maya looks so tense)… so perhaps we've learned something about Fuyutsuki. (Honestly, I could totally see him as a high school music teacher.) Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: The Angel has woken up, and is hatching. Oops. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/secondgryphon/Sketches/EVA/Screencaps/019609ep.jpg



I like this shot of Misato, though it's uncharacteristically "cute" of her. Click to expand...

Shadowjack said: Asuka wants to be the only one in the world of something. Click to expand...

And I'm finally, finally,caught up! I'm pretty sure I've been doing OM catchup for over 12 hours now. Even not having visited OM since before Sukkot, I didn't expect this."Nice to meet you, too."Was this what you modeled your "a sinister force has come to the Juban district" sketch after?For some reason, Super Mario 64 -- in which the last star of the last level is named "Wing Mario Over the Rainbow" came to mind. And I've never even owned that game, and it's been years since I played it.Kenichi Shirahama's talent is better.Clearly with the intent of making it go three times faster.No kidding. Wouldn't youit to be able to sync with more people, since it can barely sync with any as it is?Which, from the Angel's perspective, makes obvious tactical sense even without taking Adam into account. Away from a city's support facilities and power cords, away from, and only one Eva, two pilots, and one officer available. Divide and conquer.Spiny.Also makes perfect sense. "Anticipating your orders, sir."Tiffany Grant may be America's biggest Asuka fangirl.Non sequitur response, as he hasn't fought an Angel with a mouth yet."Hello, beastie."And now you've got me imagining him with Ellen DeGeneres' voice.Don't forget Lum Invader. Or Sayaka Yumi.I've never been sure how much of this is true. Anno's never been clear as far as I know on where the ideas for the characters started except for Shinji and Misato. I'm inclined to believe the psychological aspects came first, then got wrapped up in all the otaku-ness.Not once he gets used to her.Given fandom's tendency to assume all relationships and feelings are of the romantic (a word I strongly distrust, incidentally) variety, I approve of this post. Especially since the most important emotional bonds from a series-physics standpoint are parent-child anyway.Now think about Kaji, the character who most acts like this, but never to her. She's openly affectionate toward him -- how much does that have to do with the fact that he, and never will? He'sBecause the substance behind them is "good writing," which is. And the surface is what people notice first anyway.How so?This one, definitely. I think "moe" -- at least in the sense of characters designed to be sold based on otaku's protective instincts -- basically grew out of attempts to capture the success achieved with Rei and sales of her merchandise. Gainax's massive merchandising, come to think of it, may have been the real mover, because it allowed people to pinpoint individual characters and evenof characters. ("The most popular figurine is this one with the girl in the bandages! Thissomething!")...is epic.Whatever the flaws of the theory, this part istrue. Double standard through and through.I think it was EarthScorpion who established that the plural is "Ree," under the logic of "-is" becoming "-es."Doesn't work. He was a little kid when she was a grad student.I've seen that sitting-on-the-broomstick-sideways pose before. Blair in Soul Eater? Others? Pre-anime stock pinup pose?Well, the manga also started in December 1994.The term you're looking for is "ur-example," and Key probably isn't even that. Mary Marvel, for instance, was described as the ur-Magical Girl Warrior. Rei would be the trope maker. "Trope Codifier" is the least-well-defined; it's basically the character/story/whatever you point to to say "An X is something/someone like."I had it on mine once. I took it off for a while out of disinterest. Now I'm torrenting it for reals.I dunno if the artist had the MP Evas in mind, though. In fact, it's so AU that we can safely assume the harpies don't have the 05 designation.Yeah, except I'd be more specific than "GAINAX" and say "Hiroyuki Imaishi."Hmm, Princess Tutu does this too -- and Haruhi Suzumiya to some extent.From this scene alone, it's become my semi-arbitrary fanon that Rei's an omniglot, because Lilith.Take note, 14-year-olds: these people are at least somewhat comfortable with themselves.Gurren Lagann just gets totally silly with this.Uh, yeah.I always found that line insulting. Not just to Asuka, either; this is legitimate cultural clash, not her being a bitch. No need for implied insults to the rest of the world."Well, sure.need for privacy trumps whatever needmight have to get intorooms, too."I think sheAmerican by at least citizenship."This your club with a nail in it. You will eat it. You will sleep on it! When Detritus say Jump, you say… what colour! We goin' to do this by the numbers! And I got lotsa numbers!"A comment I've often made myself......and here's where I actually burst into (suppressed) laughter.Of course, there's no way she is. Even without her issues, when would she have spent much time with anyone who'd go for someone her age?Is that near Hill Valley? Does Major Major Major Major live there?I gave Unit 00 a shotgun once for fighting Nanoha-verse drones in a roleplay.Don't forget "Master Roshi!"And she's not even"We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.""How do you knowmad?""You must be, or you wouldn't want me....Huh. I don't remember that at all. Just goes to show how many years it's been, I suppose. (Though Iremember Asuka's debut chapter.)Blasphemy, but...on balance, didn't like it Charles Bhepin is "most authors?" Or has someone else done that now?That qualifies as self-reference, not homage.Gunbuster hasroots. It starts off as a mashup of an old shojo tennis manga and Top Gun with robots. Then it throws in some The Forever War and goes totally crazy. Oh, and it's got a very indie feel as one of Gainax's early works. Half the cast is named after real people who were working with Gainax, including Smith Toren (Noriko's named for her own VA). Whoever wrote the TV Tropes entry's description way back (too tired to look at the Wayback Machine) said that "writer Toshio Okada has commented that he put in EVERY idea he had." There's some REALLY detailed art with the title robot and the space monsters and some of the attacks are just ridiculous. (Super Robot Wars adds a giant baseball bat.)Right before the "Fly High" sequence. And she goes right from "onee-sama" to first-name-"As the minuteness of the parts formed a great hindrance to my speed, I resolved, contrary to my first intention, to make the being of a gigantic stature, that is to say, about forty metres in height, and proportionably large."No, brain, Rei isMikoto Urabe. Shut up.I wasn't completely certain that it diverged from canon pre-contact experiment until [[Yvyvgu'f "" pbzchyfvba pnzr hc]].A jock, a geek, and a nice girl. Resemble another cast group you can think of?Most common redneck last words: "Hey y'all, watch this!"I've often seen it proposed that this was a trap.Does anyone other than Asuka mention this in the anime? Because she's hardly the most reliable source.I can't process the anatomy.Huh. So that crossover pic fits her better than I'd...*looks**looks**looks and finds only the Japanese version of that Crazy Clover Club crossover comic**is CERTAIN he's seen an English translation that doesn't involve mouse hovering but CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE A LINK IS ARRGH*"I mean, Asuka's something special. I've fallen for girls before, but never like this. I look at her, and I see myself spending my life with her... I see us growing old together... I see myself bearing her children...""Er, don't you mean you seebearing—""No, I'm trying to be realistic about this."