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Full MemberActivity: 135Merit: 100 Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread March 31, 2014, 05:14:27 AM #4643 Quote from: chenmeilin on March 30, 2014, 03:06:21 PM when can we get our shares?

Everyone to quiet down. Give the development team more time, so that they have sufficient time to complete the development and testing work, the Roman Empire was not built in one day. Let's get rid of the psychological impetuous, especially in the current market are bad.

nem is bound to be a great reform, and therefore doomed to need more time. 3i companies have developed a long time, there is no product out

Let us look forward to it. Everyone to quiet down. Give the development team more time, so that they have sufficient time to complete the development and testing work, the Roman Empire was not built in one day. Let's get rid of the psychological impetuous, especially in the current market are bad.nem is bound to be a great reform, and therefore doomed to need more time. 3i companies have developed a long time, there is no product outLet us look forward to it.

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Hero MemberActivity: 644Merit: 500 Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread March 31, 2014, 07:17:06 AM #4646 Quote from: patmast3r on March 31, 2014, 06:13:33 AM Quote from: Eadeqa on March 31, 2014, 04:45:47 AM What are we going to do about cloners who would try to "release" clones even before beta tests are over?



I suggest keep the code obfuscated, at least enough time for Nem to establish itself. Something like 6 months. Perhaps release the full source code in January 2015



There has been a discussion about this and I'm not sure it's over yet. However I don't think keeping things closed source after the launch is a good idea. It has caused NXT a shitstorm and a bad perception. Look at all the clones that are trying to clone NXT. Has even 1 got a blockchian out ? It's just not that easy to clone a 2nd gen crypto

There has been a discussion about this and I'm not sure it's over yet. However I don't think keeping things closed source after the launch is a good idea. It has caused NXT a shitstorm and a bad perception. Look at all the clones that are trying to clone NXT. Has even 1 got a blockchian out ? It's just not that easy to clone a 2nd gen crypto

Nxt made it difficult by releasing code late, and the developer constantly claims that there are anti-clone code even in the current version that allows him to kill the clones if they just change the genesis block and nothing else.



Trust me, if you release the code too soon, the clones will be releasing it before you even finish the beta tests. That would be very bad for you. Nxt made it difficult by releasing code late, and the developer constantly claims that there are anti-clone code even in the current version that allows him to kill the clones if they just change the genesis block and nothing else.Trust me, if you release the code too soon, the clones will be releasing it before you even finish the beta tests. That would be very bad for you.

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Full MemberActivity: 210Merit: 100 Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread March 31, 2014, 09:14:03 AM #4649 But think about it pat, the average user doesn't care about source code. Just look at the post two spots before this one. Don't you think there are some pros in Nem taking its time in releasing its source code?



Especially if we're honest about not releasing it soon. I feel most people would understand and appreciate the reason. Though it can attract trolls. But I just think the reputation of people behind Nem speaks for itself.



We already have at the very least over 1,500 stake holders, which is different than if we didn't have any and were trying to attract people.



People on the outside will focus on the community and the activity much more than a released a source code. They're not going to go, "This coin looks legit, there's a lot of action going on around it, but I won't join in because they haven't released the source code."



My point basically is that they're not going to care, and seeing 21+ new shitcoins released every week destroying cryptos really worries me. The greed, they saw what happened with Aurora and then and now we have countless country and city coins. Everything just gets copied and diluted.



Bitcoin had the advantage of years without competition. I would love if Nem has some time to establish itself. NEM COIN ► NEM ◄ NEM COIN

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Hero MemberActivity: 980Merit: 1001 Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread March 31, 2014, 09:38:27 AM #4650 Quote from: j23a on March 31, 2014, 09:14:03 AM But think about it pat, the average user doesn't care about source code. Just look at the post two spots before this one. Don't you think there are some pros in Nem taking its time in releasing its source code?



Especially if we're honest about not releasing it soon. I feel most people would understand and appreciate the reason. Though it can attract trolls. But I just think the reputation of people behind Nem speaks for itself.



We already have at the very least over 1,500 stake holders, which is different than if we didn't have any and were trying to attract people.



People on the outside will focus on the community and the activity much more than a released a source code. They're not going to go, "This coin looks legit, there's a lot of action going on around it, but I won't join in because they haven't released the source code."



My point basically is that they're not going to care, and seeing 21+ new shitcoins released every week destroying cryptos really worries me. The greed, they saw what happened with Aurora and then and now we have countless country and city coins. Everything just gets copied and diluted.



Bitcoin had the advantage of years without competition. I would love if Nem has some time to establish itself.



Well like I said afaik it's still being discussed allthough I'm almost certain that alpha will have obfuscated binaries.

The devs are following this thread so I'm sure all your points will be taken under consideration.

I myself am still for open-source from the start but we'll see. Well like I said afaik it's still being discussed allthough I'm almost certain that alpha will have obfuscated binaries.The devs are following this thread so I'm sure all your points will be taken under consideration.I myself am still for open-source from the start but we'll see. nem.io - twitter.com/nemofficial - forum.nem.io



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NewbieActivity: 40Merit: 0 Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread March 31, 2014, 10:26:11 AM #4651 Quote from: utopianfuture on March 29, 2014, 09:30:46 PM



The development contract announcement will be delayed. My plan is to have the announcement when we have a clear road map of NEM development going forward and preferably within 1-2 weeks of the alpha launch. Unfortunately, at this point we don't have an ETA for the alpha launch yet and consequently, the formal announcement is delayed. My guesstimate of the Alpha is still on later part of April but there are quite a few things that needs to be worked on before we can make a solid ETA.



We currently have two repo, one for NEM infrastructure codes and one for NEM client codes and quite a few other concurrent projects going on. Progress is made on daily basis and team-quality wise I think we are as strong as Ethereum group except that NEM team and development are still in a stealthy mode.



NEM client would be called NEM community client (NCC) and here is NCC specification written by Thies1965. Feel free to comment on it.



https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZVrzuS_krjRF5rMvt5oKl3IS3VOhF_qnn2faZb7KZQ/edit



These are some mock-up design of NCC



https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9jSTPeGZxgtTjVncFlmMmJ6LW8&usp=sharing



I hope you like what NCC will look like in the future. Let me know if you are a developer and interested in working on expanding NEM ecosystem. I have some ideas about the future direction of NEM that I could share and I am very excited about it. Thanks.

Development update:The development contract announcement will be delayed. My plan is to have the announcement when we have a clear road map of NEM development going forward and preferably within 1-2 weeks of the alpha launch. Unfortunately, at this point we don't have an ETA for the alpha launch yet and consequently, the formal announcement is delayed. My guesstimate of the Alpha is still on later part of April but there are quite a few things that needs to be worked on before we can make a solid ETA.We currently have two repo, one for NEM infrastructure codes and one for NEM client codes and quite a few other concurrent projects going on. Progress is made on daily basis and team-quality wise I think we are as strong as Ethereum group except that NEM team and development are still in a stealthy mode.NEM client would be called NEM community client (NCC) and here is NCC specification written by Thies1965. Feel free to comment on it.These are some mock-up design of NCCI hope you like what NCC will look like in the future. Let me know if you are a developer and interested in working on expanding NEM ecosystem. I have some ideas about the future direction of NEM that I could share and I am very excited about it. Thanks.



WOW !!! NEM is so exciting !!! WOW !!! NEM is so exciting !!!

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NewbieActivity: 40Merit: 0 Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread March 31, 2014, 10:45:40 AM #4653 Quote from: Djentriser on March 31, 2014, 10:32:17 AM I waited what impact will have releasing of NXT code. The community thought that it will drive the price up, but in reality it did nothing for NXT, just many people trying to copy it. They didnt, but I heard those people saying they are not going to copy NXT code because it is strangely written.

Not sure how important releasing of code is, but think we should do something to prevent copying it.



First rule of economy says that resources are limited, thats what gives them value.

NEM must be valuebale. I totally stopped caring for 1.gen crypto, just because how much of them is in existence. Dont let that happend to NEM.



In my view we are part of the biggest movement in crypto in 2014 - Our advantage is our big and strong community.

Compare just the numbers of post of members since NEM started to other "coins" In my view we are part of the biggest movement in crypto in 2014 - Our advantage is our big and strong community.Compare just the numbers of post of members since NEM started to other "coins"

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Sr. MemberActivity: 322Merit: 250 Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread March 31, 2014, 01:44:43 PM #4659 Quote from: utopianfuture on March 29, 2014, 09:30:46 PM



The development contract announcement will be delayed. My plan is to have the announcement when we have a clear road map of NEM development going forward and preferably within 1-2 weeks of the alpha launch. Unfortunately, at this point we don't have an ETA for the alpha launch yet and consequently, the formal announcement is delayed. My guesstimate of the Alpha is still on later part of April but there are quite a few things that needs to be worked on before we can make a solid ETA.



We currently have two repo, one for NEM infrastructure codes and one for NEM client codes and quite a few other concurrent projects going on. Progress is made on daily basis and team-quality wise I think we are as strong as Ethereum group except that NEM team and development are still in a stealthy mode.



NEM client would be called NEM community client (NCC) and here is NCC specification written by Thies1965. Feel free to comment on it.



https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZVrzuS_krjRF5rMvt5oKl3IS3VOhF_qnn2faZb7KZQ/edit



These are some mock-up design of NCC



https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9jSTPeGZxgtTjVncFlmMmJ6LW8&usp=sharing



I hope you like what NCC will look like in the future. Let me know if you are a developer and interested in working on expanding NEM ecosystem. I have some ideas about the future direction of NEM that I could share and I am very excited about it. Thanks.

Development update:The development contract announcement will be delayed. My plan is to have the announcement when we have a clear road map of NEM development going forward and preferably within 1-2 weeks of the alpha launch. Unfortunately, at this point we don't have an ETA for the alpha launch yet and consequently, the formal announcement is delayed. My guesstimate of the Alpha is still on later part of April but there are quite a few things that needs to be worked on before we can make a solid ETA.We currently have two repo, one for NEM infrastructure codes and one for NEM client codes and quite a few other concurrent projects going on. Progress is made on daily basis and team-quality wise I think we are as strong as Ethereum group except that NEM team and development are still in a stealthy mode.NEM client would be called NEM community client (NCC) and here is NCC specification written by Thies1965. Feel free to comment on it.These are some mock-up design of NCCI hope you like what NCC will look like in the future. Let me know if you are a developer and interested in working on expanding NEM ecosystem. I have some ideas about the future direction of NEM that I could share and I am very excited about it. Thanks.

If the devs can deliver this, NEM looks amazing.

Cant wait to see the beta client in action. Nice screenshots...If the devs can deliver this, NEM looks amazing.Cant wait to see the beta client in action.