sleepingdog Profile Joined August 2008 Austria 6145 Posts #2 Is there any reason why Killer is directly invited to the American final while everyone else seems to have to go through a gigantic bracket?



Not that I dislike him...just...why? IdrA and Select I can understand based on their previous results/performance. "You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen

Daniello Profile Joined February 2011 Poland 127 Posts #3 I wonder why Koreans are invited and EU/NA players have to qualify.

Carush Profile Joined June 2011 United States 352 Posts Last Edited: 2011-07-01 16:48:33 #4 7 European Players via Qualifier

2 American Players via Qualifier



:/



i know that this is a European league but cmon

stormLP Profile Joined May 2011 Canada 19 Posts #5 On July 01 2011 23:08 sleepingdog wrote:

Is there any reason why Killer is directly invited to the American final while everyone else seems to have to go through a gigantic bracket?



Not that I dislike him...just...why? IdrA and Select I can understand based on their previous results/performance.





I can answer that



KiLLeR is regular top performer in our Go4SC2 Cups winning weekly cups and monthly finals. I can answer thatKiLLeR is regular top performer in our Go4SC2 Cups winning weekly cups and monthly finals.

Skiba Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 153 Posts Last Edited: 2011-07-01 16:58:11 #6 And Killer is one of the few top south american players.



i think the ratio of 7:2 in favour to europe is reasonable, because of a lot more top level players in europe then in NA.



Korean invitees probalby because of the non existend ESL infrastructure in KR every zergling has a twin brother

pdd Profile Blog Joined November 2010 Australia 9071 Posts #7 Hmm why isn't Morrow invited given that he won the same tournament last year? Or is it just that he's win was already rewarded by a seed in the IEM World Champs? TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie

Prostak Profile Joined March 2011 Poland 192 Posts #8 come on eu > na

so 7-2 is fair

and ofc koreans got invites they own every cup they coming

pretty fair i would say

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Baituri Profile Joined June 2010 Netherlands 1498 Posts #9 On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote:

7 European Players via Qualifier

2 American Players via Qualifier



:/



i know that this is a European league but cmon

The European scene is a lot bigger, with more better players. So it is only normal that there are more European slots. The European scene is a lot bigger, with more better players. So it is only normal that there are more European slots.

Bobster Profile Joined January 2011 Germany 3069 Posts #10



Korea doesn't have qualifiers because there's no Korean division of ESL. On July 02 2011 02:05 pdd wrote:

Hmm why isn't Morrow invited given that he won the same tournament last year? Or is it just that he's win was already rewarded by a seed in the IEM World Champs?

Exactly. Same with Fenix and qxc, hence the new invites. Exactly. Same with Fenix and qxc, hence the new invites.

sleepingdog Profile Joined August 2008 Austria 6145 Posts #11 On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote:

7 European Players via Qualifier

2 American Players via Qualifier



:/



i know that this is a European league but cmon



I'm from Europe and also have always been of the opinion that EU > NA...but I agree. Especially since Socke is seeded, so it's 8 EU vs 2 NA. And EU isn't 4 times better than NA lol. I'm from Europe and also have always been of the opinion that EU > NA...but I agree. Especially since Socke is seeded, so it's 8 EU vs 2 NA. And EU isn't 4 times better than NA lol. "You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen

Daniello Profile Joined February 2011 Poland 127 Posts Last Edited: 2011-07-01 17:22:12 #12 Will there be an open bracket? Like MLG?

udgnim Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 7482 Posts Last Edited: 2011-07-01 17:48:33 #13 http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players



there's only 5 NA players (6 if you include Huk which is debatable) on the first page for ELO ranking. the top 2 NA players are Idra at rank 16 and Killer at rank 26 and they already have invites to the final qualifier. the other 3 NA players are Fenix, Sheth, and Vibe and they occupy ranks 36 through 38.



so for ranks 1 through 35, there are 2 NA players occupying spots and the rest are mostly filled by EU and KR players. I find it difficult to disagree with ESL choosing to have a 7 EU:2 NA qualifier ratio. there's only 5 NA players (6 if you include Huk which is debatable) on the first page for ELO ranking. the top 2 NA players are Idra at rank 16 and Killer at rank 26 and they already have invites to the final qualifier. the other 3 NA players are Fenix, Sheth, and Vibe and they occupy ranks 36 through 38.so for ranks 1 through 35, there are 2 NA players occupying spots and the rest are mostly filled by EU and KR players. I find it difficult to disagree with ESL choosing to have a 7 EU:2 NA qualifier ratio. E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.

stormLP Profile Joined May 2011 Canada 19 Posts #14 On July 02 2011 02:22 Daniello wrote:

Will there be an open bracket? Like MLG?





there will be no open bracket at the event itself, but there will be open qualifiers to attend the event there will be no open bracket at the event itself, but there will be open qualifiers to attend the event

vdale Profile Joined June 2010 Germany 1173 Posts Last Edited: 2011-07-01 19:11:29 #15 On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote:

7 European Players via Qualifier

2 American Players via Qualifier



:/



i know that this is a European league but cmon

Maybe they have a system. Both American participants (Fenix and qxc) were last in their group without winning a single series (and match?) at the IEM at Cebit and Idra was an Korean invite. You can't blame them and in my opinion 7-2 is pretty fair. Maybe they have a system. Both American participants (Fenix and qxc) were last in their group without winning a single series (and match?) at the IEM at Cebit and Idra was an Korean invite. You can't blame them and in my opinion 7-2 is pretty fair.

Jambi Profile Joined August 2010 20 Posts #16 I seriously have to buy premium to enter the open tournament?

Tidus Mino Profile Blog Joined March 2011 United Kingdom 1105 Posts #17 7 European Players via Qualifier

2 American Players via Qualifier

4 Korean Invitees

1 Chinese Player via Qualifer

1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier

1 National Champion of Host Nation



Right let's make some predictions



South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen

Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd

Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC

American Players = Idra, Select

European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy

National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager

Xp Profile Joined January 2011 China 63 Posts #18 @Jambi, yes you have to.

Philo Profile Joined September 2010 United States 337 Posts #19 It's an open signup, you dont have to buy anything.



The qualifiers for this IEM are no more skewed then normal. They have a lot of European nations that need representation hence more slots. Standard. Other people do 24 hour streams. I just let GoOdy play a Bo11 TvT. - Special Endrey

Bobble Profile Joined January 2011 Australia 1434 Posts Last Edited: 2011-07-02 03:54:33 #20 On July 02 2011 04:09 vdale wrote:

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On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote:

7 European Players via Qualifier

2 American Players via Qualifier



:/



i know that this is a European league but cmon

Maybe they have a system. Both American participants (Fenix and qxc) were last in their group without winning a single series (and match?) at the IEM at Cebit and Idra was an Korean invite. You can't blame them and in my opinion 7-2 is pretty fair. Maybe they have a system. Both American participants (Fenix and qxc) were last in their group without winning a single series (and match?) at the IEM at Cebit and Idra was an Korean invite. You can't blame them and in my opinion 7-2 is pretty fair.



By that logic, SEA would have more qualifying spots, since mOOnGLaDe went the furthest of all of the non-Koreans. It's probably just because there are a lot more top quality SC2 players in all of Europe, which equates to about a 7:2 ratio.



That and IEM is European in origin, you can't blame them.



By that logic, SEA would have more qualifying spots, since mOOnGLaDe went the furthest of all of the non-Koreans. It's probably just because there are a lot more top quality SC2 players in all of Europe, which equates to about a 7:2 ratio.That and IEM is European in origin, you can't blame them. On July 02 2011 09:11 Tidus Mino wrote:

7 European Players via Qualifier

2 American Players via Qualifier

4 Korean Invitees

1 Chinese Player via Qualifer

1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier

1 National Champion of Host Nation



Right let's make some predictions



South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen

Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd

Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC

American Players = Idra, Select

European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy

National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully



Socke is already the National Champion. Socke is already the National Champion.

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