"Probably training camp up there at the Greenbrier," Joseph said over the phone from his home in Houston. "Me, Kevin Johnson and Kareem (Jackson) were talking and we were just sitting back in awe. I've seen a lot of quarterbacks and you know a lot of black quarterbacks get the stigma, maybe not just black quarterbacks -- I'll say the athletic quarterbacks get that stigma about them that they can't sit in the pocket and throw. Deshaun was just putting on a show. Just throwing these 20-yard darts. I'm just talking about picking us apart. I was telling everybody, 'Y'all wrong. Everybody thinks this kid wants to run the ball. Man, he's going to sit back in the pocket and pick you apart like Tom Brady.' That was amazing to me, to sit back and watch him at that age and watch him throw. He was able to sit back in the pocket and let the play progress and then just sit there and put that ball on a rope. That's special."