Is there anything you particularly resent, or see as untrue, in the way you’re perceived?

I guess that I’m a perfectionist. I don’t resent that, because I understand why people think it, but for me, it couldn’t be further from the truth. There are so many things in my music that are imperfect, and so many things that I’ve spent like, two minutes on, and then just used. I believe strongly in the benefit of randomness in the studio. I’ll use a synth sound, or a sample of something, that I’ve done before, and I’ve thought about it for like, ten seconds, and that’s it. I’m a perfectionist of the vibe, not of the actual parts themselves. There’s some things that I’m a bit of a control freak on, and they’ve gotta be perfect. If I was an actual perfectionist, my music would sound a lot different.

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I’m really interested in the moment kinda towards the end of “Breathe Deeper” where you can hear a snippet of a psych song, and then it hits back to this real space-y disco — when I heard it it felt almost responsive to fans who want you to make psych rock again.

Ha! No, responsive would be the wrong word. I like to use that as a color in my brush, in my palette of things that I can use. That kind of AM Radio, seventies stadium rock, whatever that sound thing is, I can do that so easily. So I just like using it as a brushstroke. I like the idea that I can just cut into it and cut back out of it, as If you were just flicking through radio stations. Not because I can do it well, but because I love that sound. Almost like hitting a sample, but it’s not a sample, it’s me. I also just wanted that song to be disorientating, because it’s this kinda tripped out [track]. That song, I guess, is meant to carry a kind of MDMA experience. The song is kinda inspired by the first time I took ecstasy.

Do you ever feel a want or need to kinda go back to that style of music?

Not at the moment. It wouldn’t be exciting. Making music for me, I do it because it’s exciting. I get excited by the idea of making music that’s something I haven’t done before. That’s where the joy of creativity comes from. If I did psych rock again as the way that people know that I do psych rock, you’d be able to hear that it wasn’t me testing the boundaries. You’d be able to hear that it was something I already know how to do. I wouldn’t want to give people something uninspired, even if they think they want it.

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The Kevin Parker drum sound has become so specific, and when I hear it in another song — say, for example, SZA’s “Normal Girl” — I’m always surprised when you haven’t contributed. Are you protective of your specific sounds or techniques?

I’m protective of my methods, yeah, because at the end of the day, they’re all I have. There’s not a lot of things that I am protective of. At the end of the day, though, I could tell you how I make drum sounds and it still wouldn’t give you much of an idea of how to do it, without giving you a YouTube tutorial. For me, drum sounds are so nuanced and there’s such a touch to it, so many delicate details. It’s not a secret recipe. It’s funny, that SZA song, she told me that she was really inspired by me, for that song. It was partially inspired by Tame Impala, which I thought was nice.

There’s this thread on the record of the idea that time is malleable, in the sense that memories are constantly changing. But in music that idea is manifesting in this much more concrete way now, where record tracklists are being changed on Spotify or alternate mixes are being uploaded. Does that new malleability change how you see your records?

Yes. I’m interested in any way that music is released, you know. The first time I heard that Kanye was changing his mixes after they were released I immediately knew it was a dangerous piece of information, because I knew I’d wanna do the same kind of stuff. I’m all for the way music is released and consumed evolving. There are some songs that no one would ever want to change, and so if an artist changed them it’d be terrible for everyone. But I think it could be a cool thing if, in the future, there was a music format that changes. It’s like when an electronic song comes out, and there’s a bunch of different remixes for it, and the most popular version might be the fourth remix that was done. I like that idea, because it’s like, when the song is released, that’s the beginning of its life, it’s not the end of it. I like that there’s a different way to look at it like that.

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When you think about pop culture or music now, do you see your influence?

No. People have told me that they can hear it, and I’ve heard bands that have obviously taken influence from me, but I don’t think I’ve done anything seismic. Maybe in the future. Also, I’m really bad at being able to hear that kind of stuff. The things that I do are just things that are so close to me. My music is so well known to me, it’s kind of like I’m deaf to it in other peoples’ music, if that makes sense. I’d like to be more influential. Not like, I’d like to be, but I could handle it, maybe in the future. I would like to do an album in the future that leaves a real mark.