I ended up in a conversation with a guy at the gym. He’s probably 50, never been married. Brought up some of my thoughts about how if a woman is under 30, she’s not looking for any form of a relationship. And his response, well most guys under 30 aren’t either. In today’s world, most people are focused on career and family is second.

That kind of hit me. You know that, that is just how it is.

I think MGTOW material is very valuable. But it’s still a perspective. And getting tunnel vision is never a good thing, whether that’s politics, religion, or ideologies.

Learn from it, and then figure out how to apply the new knowledge into the world.

Where does most of the suffering come from. I personally believe it’s from denial and false/unhealthy maps of reality. Then because of that, bad choices in life, and continuing to make those bad choices in life because of lack of understanding, lack of a useful map in which to navigate the world.

MGTOW offers a lot of extremely useful perspectives, based on science, that make a lot of sense. But to get stuck in it forever, and for it to be the only thing someone focuses on, well it’s just another form of tunnel vision. It’s like watching the news and seeing all the negative stuff and then being afraid to walk outside. Is that bad? Not at all. I think MGTOW producers need to keep doing exactly what they are doing. People need to know this stuff to stop being blind to the reality. People need a good dose of reality.

But, being engrossed in it, where all your interactions are based on this one thing, I don’t think it’s healthy, long term. Get a dose of it for a month or 3 and kind of wean off for a bit. Maybe come back for a month or 3, but being overly saturated with this stuff, it’s draining. Definitely think developing relationships with like minded people is a good and healthy thing, having people to talk to about it, very positive thing.

I’ve certainly learned a lot. My eyes have been opened, I can see things that I could never see before. I can understand my past more, past relationships, why they went wrong, things I chose to ignore that I will never ignore again, and what not.

Women are selfish creatures.

Hypergamy is real.

Long term, I think it’s a very bad idea to get married. There’s a conflict of interest, women have a significant advantage. I would not recommend playing that game.

But where does the pain come from… I think deep down, men desire to feel needed, significant, important. And in today’s society, women are not going to meet that need, at least not long term. And there’s plenty of women that will take advantage of a guy who wants to fill that need/void leaving him feeling worthless and unimportant.

It’s the modern world. A lot of women, do not want babies. If they do, it’s usually for a paycheck.

Most women who don’t want to be a burden, are usually focusing on their career. A lot of them have no plans to get married until at least after 30, I’d say late 30’s. And yeah, they’ve road plenty of dick along the way. Just gotta accept reality for what it is. These types of women, don’t want to get into a relationship because they think it will slow them down. And it may very well do just that.

Men and women have different standards when it comes to needs. I think most women feel the need for security. A lot of men feel the need for significance/importance. Women get their need for security fulfilled by government programs, their job with benefits/insurance, etc. Men have been replaced in that transaction.

Women just don’t really “need” men anymore to feel secure/safe/taken care of. And because of that, men are not going to ever feel needed, important, significant from a woman. It’s just not going to happen.

Basically, men have to adapt. Whatever your needs are, what ever you feel you need to feel or be on a regular basic, you’ve got to find away to diversify and get that outside of a relationship.

If you can’t do that, you will be left feeling drained and used up by a woman. There’s no reciprocity in that relationship of feeling important/needed/useful/etc in the eyes of a woman. That’s been replaced by government programs, work, benefits that she receives from that work, etc.

You’ve got to figure out how to get all this mess outside of a relationship. You’ve got to gain/discover your own independence, emotionally. And then once you discover that, you’ve got to guard it like your life depends on it.

With that being said, you’ve got to learn how to be OK being alone, not in a relationship. If you cannot do that, you will get f~~~ed. Simply because women don’t need you anymore. Women don’t “need” men, not in the same way. Being I think the biggest need of a woman for a man “was” security/safety etc. That’s been replaced and they don’t “need” a man for that anymore.

There is the imbalance.

You’ve got to figure out who to gain your independence, how to be OK with yourself, outside of women. Only then will you have any chance of equality. If you don’t have that, the woman will have a significant advantage. If you need signifance from her, but she doesn’t need security/safety from you. She’s going to feel drained because there is no reciprocity. So she’s going to jet out, and the one’s that stick around are going to drain you and use you up. And you’ll never get that need met for real because at the end up the day, she really doesn’t “need” you. Basically you’ve got to stop needing her.

You’ve got to be able to walk away without feeling any potential loss, at all times. If you can’t do that, she’s got the power, and being a woman, she will abuse it because it’s not natural for a woman to have the power. It’s not natural. It’s like the house dog is running the show. It’s not healthy and nothing good can come from it.

All that being said. All this stuff is real about women, AWALT all the way. Understand that.

But women are highly adaptive. And I learned this in the past. I went through this phase where I never called women, women only called me. You know what, they adapted. I didn’t even tell them that was how it was going to be, they just adapted. Instinctively, women are chameleons, thrive off of approval, it’s their survival instincts. If you know that, and know how to spot s~~~ty behavior and walk away from it, which is easy to do when you know that you will never be significant/important in the eyes of a woman. You just won’t. She doesn’t need a “man”, she really doesn’t. All the things men supplied, that made them needed, are now fulfilled by government programs, her job, etc.

But women still adapt.

And since learning all this stuff. Seeing women for what they are. Not expecting them to ever find me important, or needed, or anything. I’ve found myself having some positive interactions with women. They don’t seem to be jerking me around, because I know they don’t need me, and I know they’ll never see me as important, so I don’t even try. And from that, I’ve had some enjoyable conversations with women.

Would I ever commit to them. Of course not. I’m not needed. Commitment would be stupid and only a losing game. AWALT is the truth. But, because women are so adaptive, if you know all this stuff, and have accepted it and ingrained it, and are willing to walk away at the drop of a hat, I found women can be highly agreeable and positive interactions are possible.

And thinking of it. What kept a man from walking away. Deep down he wanted to feel important, and he was in denial that he wasn’t. At least that was me. Anytime the relationship got s~~~ty, I felt guilty about telling her to f~~~ off and walking away, in denial, thinking that she needed me. She doesn’t need a man.

So seeing that, don’t have to put up with her s~~~, don’t have to make any efforts in trying to feel needed/important, because you never will feel needed/important from a woman. It’s not happening. And with that said, all of sudden, there’s no expectation, there’s no reason to do anything other than what you want to do in the moment. You don’t have to go out of your way. Because going out of your way is completely pointless. Women do not need a man, and they know this, at least subconsciously.

With that, I find that women seem to behave a lot better around me than in the past before I ingrained all this information and understanding.

Don’t get married. Don’t go out of your way for a woman in any situation, she doesn’t need you anymore. Don’t get her pregnant, and all the other jazz… and I think it’s possible to have positive interactions with women, on a temporary basis. I certainly wouldn’t commit, in order to keep it as positive as possible, you’ve got to be willing to jet out of there very quickly. Again, that why you’ve got to gain your emotional independence and then guard that s~~~ with your life.

If you feel you “need” a woman, you are gonna get f~~~ed because she does not need you for anything.

Accept reality and adapt. Women are chameleons, if you got the right frame, and hold your power, women will behave better, at least temporarily. If you ever commit, not willing to walk away when it sucks, it’s out the door because she doesn’t need a man and there’s no way to keep her in check.