Chuva said: I've been watching recent matches of japanese Yoshi's (Aiba and Ninomiya) vs Sheiks it seems like it's just a MU where Yoshi needs a different approach, like not overusing Egg-throws and be more based on reaction. Yoshi loses in the neutral and does not have an easy time getting back to the stage, but trading hits seems a lot favorable for him due to his better damage and his good vertical kill options are handy given how strong of a recover Vanish is. That's just an impression of mine though so I'd appreciate a proper explanation of someone who actually plays the character. Click to expand...

Just for history, even in brawl, we've always had problems with Sheik.Sheik's everything is faster, fair still knocks us out of our DJ pretty handedly (no pun intended... cuz she uses her hands for fair audino) Needles is a ***** for us and again destroys our DJ. Bouncing fish makes her a bit more slippery to deal with this time around and Uair (if the sheik can do it) tacks on easy % against us when below 50%. I think her Uair even beats our DownB on most occasionsAlong with her great ground speed, our main thing SH egg toss can't be abused much even with the new mobility to the move cause she can just run under them and punish us incredibly hard. I can only imagine how the Sonic vs Yoshi MU is now since we lost our fantastic pivot grab.She still has problems killing us at times of course but she can get % on us so easily we'd be in kill range for fair or bouncing fish in no time. She probably can gimp us easier too since we only have two egg toss jumps this time around, only gain out of our recovery being we don't dip down anymore so maybe dj airdodge really viable for us this time around? I wouldn't say 70:30 maybe 65/60:35/40 MU but it still honestly feels like a solid win for Sheik if it was to be a match of where both characters were being played at the Top level.Diddy Kong will do Diddy kong things, but I don't see it as a 60:40 for now based on matches I've seen. Usually been better players playing Diddy with anYoshi player. Haven't seen too many matches where both evenly matched competitors but oh well.Edit:Funny just mentioned Egg toss being bad in that MU.Anyways I too finished watching those shi-gaming matches.