Dare Jennings, one of Australia's quieter entrepreneurs, is the first to admit he's not that young anymore and that it's getting a bit harder to stay hip in business.

But that's exactly what he is doing.

The founder of 1980s surf wear company, Mambo, and now Deus Ex Machina - a custom motorbike firm and global clothing brand - sat down for a bite to eat with Hywel Griffiths for our new series, Busy Breakfast.