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Sr. MemberActivity: 275Merit: 250 Re: Bitcoin Israel Think Tank November 07, 2013, 02:47:19 PM #5 in regards expert subject. you should see the posts on pprune (pilots/cabin crew network) when aviation accidents happen and a so called expert appears on bbc or sky news.



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LegendaryActivity: 1358Merit: 1002Ron Gross Re: Bitcoin Israel Think Tank November 07, 2013, 04:01:46 PM #6 We have been dealing with Bitcoin for the last 1-3 years, and are all active in our respective fields. You can read our post history and activity.

I think this qualifies us as experts.



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next time do the conference around a big bowl of Hummus.



great to see a Bitcoin Think Tank in Israel. This kind of discussion is comparable to what I've seen in NYC, which as usual is impressive for such a small country under so much international pressure.



I've done a lot of work with alt-currency people in Europe and a great deal of them get their views of International Banking straight from the Adolf Guidebook. next time do the conference around a big bowl of Hummus.great to see a Bitcoin Think Tank in Israel. This kind of discussion is comparable to what I've seen in NYC, which as usual is impressive for such a small country under so much international pressure.I've done a lot of work with alt-currency people in Europe and a great deal of them get their views of International Banking straight from the Adolf Guidebook. Just who IS bluemeanie? On NXTautoDAC and a Million Stolen NXT



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LegendaryActivity: 1358Merit: 1002Ron Gross Re: Bitcoin Israel Think Tank November 07, 2013, 07:41:39 PM #15 FYI we didn't even know what we were filming ... it was just some experiment, originally planned by Eli to include only Meni and Vitalik I believe.

Dominik and I tagged along, and in retrospective we decided to name it a Think Tank and make it a part of a series.



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LegendaryActivity: 1260Merit: 1024Rational Exuberance Re: Bitcoin Israel Think Tank November 07, 2013, 07:57:12 PM #16 This was a great discussion. I'd like to respond publicly to the criticism about the way MasterCoins were originally sold (in a one-month time frame rather than over several years). The root of the criticism seems to be that this distribution was not fair, and I agree. It wasn't intended to be fair.



I think it might be instructive to look at the way new ideas are usually funded. Typically, I would have made the rounds to venture capitalists, jumped through a lot of hoops, and if I was VERY lucky, raised some money to go implement my new idea. Then, if I beat the odds, a bunch of wealthy venture capitalists would become even MORE wealthy. Nobody would call this "fair", but it works.



Instead of that approach, I took my idea to the people in the bitcoin community. Instead of making the rounds to venture capitalists, I launched my project with a kickstarter-style fundraiser. As it happens, a bunch of venture capitalists invested a lot of money, but they were joined by lots of average people who were following bitcoin closely. It turns out that my project ALSO made a bunch of wealthy venture capitalists even more wealthy, but normal people got to participate too.



The distribution wasn't fair and wasn't trying to be fair. Capitalism is unfair. Bitcoin is unfair too. There are other ways Mastercoin could have been sold, but I doubt any of them would have given us the funding (and thus the momentum) that we have today.



The complaints about the distribution model also seem to assume that the party is over now that the early investors are up ~30x. I personally do not think that is the case. I believe the party has barely begun.





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Sr. MemberActivity: 280Merit: 257bluemeanie Re: Bitcoin Israel Think Tank November 07, 2013, 09:11:33 PM

Last edit: November 07, 2013, 09:24:15 PM by bluemeanie1 #18 Quote from: Meni Rosenfeld on November 07, 2013, 09:02:00 PM



Quote from: dacoinminster on November 07, 2013, 07:57:12 PM I think it might be instructive to look at the way new ideas are usually funded. Typically, I would have made the rounds to venture capitalists, jumped through a lot of hoops, and if I was VERY lucky, raised some money to go implement my new idea. Then, if I beat the odds, a bunch of wealthy venture capitalists would become even MORE wealthy. Nobody would call this "fair", but it works.

That's ok for a company offering some specific service. Not for what aspires to be the foundation of the entire world economy.

do perverse things, thus I want things to be fair.That's ok for a company offering some specific service. Not for what aspires to be the foundation of the entire world economy.

completely agree with this thinking. this is what turned me off to a number of digital currency projects I've worked with in the past.



The banking world wants to develop technologies that keeps their privilege intact whereas the people here want technologies that provide an even playing field. The trick is that group #1 is trying to appear as though they are group #2. The rest is just episodes in this ongoing sitcom I've been witness to for over a decade, although it's been going on a lot longer. See: J. Orlin Grabbe for recent episodes or even go back to American colonial times, Jackson/Hamilton, etc. For instance Hamilton for some reason ended up being a 'founding father' however he clearly was working for Imperial Banking interests, and he was _never_ a US President.



One thing to be vigilant about are privacy issues. A recent trend has been that funding seems to emerge for practically any functionality, EXCEPT PRIVACY, because the financial support comes from those who invade your privacy for profit, power, etc. I wont name names here but it's fairly obvious to anyone who follows this space. completely agree with this thinking. this is what turned me off to a number of digital currency projects I've worked with in the past.The banking world wants to develop technologies that keeps their privilege intact whereas the people here want technologies that provide an even playing field. The trick is that group #1 is trying to appear as though they are group #2. The rest is just episodes in this ongoing sitcom I've been witness to for over a decade, although it's been going on a lot longer. See: J. Orlin Grabbe for recent episodes or even go back to American colonial times, Jackson/Hamilton, etc. For instance Hamilton for some reason ended up being a 'founding father' however he clearly was working for Imperial Banking interests, and he was _never_ a US President.One thing to be vigilant about are privacy issues. A recent trend has been that funding seems to emerge for practically any functionality,, because the financial support comes from those who invade your privacy for profit, power, etc. I wont name names here but it's fairly obvious to anyone who follows this space. Just who IS bluemeanie? On NXTautoDAC and a Million Stolen NXT



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