Tyler, the Creator may be the figurehead and flashpoint of L.A. skate-rap mob Odd Future, but the duo of MellowHype (rapper Hodgy Beats and producer Left Brain) have been carving out their own space. Even within the crew, Left Brain's queasy, bottom-heavy beats and Hodgy's controlled-burn vocals and chaotic stage presence stand out. MellowHype's 2010 album *BlackenedWhite *was a focused and intense piece of work, and it remains one of the stronger entries in Odd Future's sprawling catalog.

On July 12, Fat Possum will release a remastered, padded-out version of BlackenedWhite. We recently spoke with Hodgy about what it feels like to have snakes slithering on your face, Odd Future's forthcoming collaboration with Nas, the whereabouts of Earl Sweatshirt, and how "the world is fucking fabricated with a bunch of bullshit." Click on for the interview.

MellowHype: "64"

Pitchfork: With the "64" video, was it your intention to make a Marilyn Manson video?

Hodgy Beats: No, it was my intention to make a MellowHype video. But Marilyn Manson makes cool music. I was listening to his shit yesterday.

Pitchfork: That over-the-top, spooky darkness is a little different from anything we've seen from Odd Future. Did the video come out the way you expected?

HB: Yeah. And the crazy thing is I don't even think it's that dark. People have seen the video, but they haven't really watched it. Can you lay in a casket with snakes crawling over your fucking head and recite lyrics? I don't know. It was pretty difficult to do some shit like that.

Pitchfork: Was that really unpleasant?

HB: It wasn't unpleasant. It was just like, "I have an objective, so I should seize it." And I did. When [director] Matt Alonzo sent me the rough draft of the video, me and Left Brain were just looking at it like, "Yo, this is unlike any other." Every video that we make is going to be different.

Pitchfork: You say that the video's not that dark to you. What is dark to you?

HB: Nothing's really dark. Nothing's really light either. I mean, I just live, yo. Fuck morals. Fuck all that stupid shit.

MellowHype: "Fuck the Police" [ft. Tyler, the Creator]

Pitchfork: On "Fuck the Police", it sounds like you're making your own version of a Waka Flocka track. Was that what you were trying to do with that?