On gimmicks in skincare:

I think gimmick is a strong word, especially if something works for you, I don't want to say it doesn’t. Jade rollers in particular, you know, I have one and it feels great and I think it does probably help temporarily with circulation and evening things out. I don't necessarily think long term it has any significant effect. I’ve heard people say that when you apply skin care products be sure to do it in an upward motion so that you aren't pulling your skin down, which can cause it to sag. Gravity is working 24/7, your internal organs are working 24/7 and the two minutes you spend rolling it out or applying skincare products is not going to make a difference.

On her skincare and beauty routine:

So I'm going to sound like a crazy person not because it's very long, but because it's so rigid and specific but I need to have a routine that I don't have to think about. So strap in. I have curly hair that right now is very short, and I use the curly girl method. In the shower I have a low-poo from Devacurl that uses very gentle surfactants as a shampoo and then a very rich moisturizing conditioner that I leave in while I’m doing the rest of my stuff. I use Dove body wash because I think it's great. Having dry skin I need something moisturizing enough and other stuff does great too, but Dove is much cheaper. And then when I get out of the shower with my hair still soaking wet, I crunch in another product. The two that I’m loving right now, because my hair is so short that I kind of want that messy wavy untamed kind of look, I used the Devacurl Believe In and Creme of Nature Argan Oil Flexible Styling Snot. My stylist recommended it to me recently, he’s a Devacurl stylist, and it is so great. So I use that and then I scrunch out the water with an old t-shirt and blow dry it upside down with a diffuser.

My skincare is pretty Stratia heavy. I start with the C+C serum and then wait for that to evaporate for about three minutes. My rule is waiting till you can't feel the silicon feeling anymore. In the mornings, instead of Liquid Gold I use Belif Moisturizing Balm because it’s thicker and I need a pretty heavy moisturizer during the day. Then the Glossier sunscreen. I used a lot of Japanese sunscreens for a long time, and those are still my favorite but my husband really loves the Glossier sunscreen and it’s the only one he’ll wear. It’s important to me that he wears sunscreen. Then for makeup, I have gotten to a point in my life where I can accept certain things about myself, and one of them is that I'm never going to wash makeup brushes, and so I apply everything with my fingers. I use cream everything, cream blush, cream eyeshadow. So I just do that because I will wash my hands. Then in the evening, it's pretty similar, depending on how much makeup I was wearing. I will use the Hadalabo oil cleanser and the (Stratia) velvet cleansing milk. I’ll use them together if I’m wearing heavier makeup. Then sometimes (Stratia) Soft Touch AHA and then (Stratia) Rewind, Fortify. If I don’t use Soft Touch I’ll use my Curology anti aging which has tretinoin, niacinamide and vitamin C. I end it with my DIY sleeping mask; a little bit of Aquaphor and a couple of pumps of Liquid Gold. I mix it in my palms and get it all over, around my eyes, and then put some Aquaphor on my lips. Have you ever seen My Big Fat Greek Wedding? Aquaphor is my Windex.

This interview was edited and condensed for clarity.