"You guys can’t stop covering him," Clinton told Matthews. "He is a dangerous presence."

"It’s just like candy by the bushel."

Matthews followed up by acknowledging that his network has a "progressive audience, obviously."

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"But nobody can tell what people want to watch," he said.

"People must think they want to watch him," Clinton replied.

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"They laugh at him," said Matthews.

The subject quickly turned to Christie, and Clinton wondered: "Why did he support him?"

Matthews explained that Christie and others who support Trump "want a future" politically.

"Did he have a debt?" Clinton mused.

Matthews added that New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, a Democrat, "isn't going anywhere," which leaves Christie "nowhere" to go in New Jersey politics.

"I don’t think he would win right now," Clinton chimed in.

"I don’t think he can win as a Senate candidate either," Matthews agreed.

The two chatted and chuckled about "Tommy Smothers" and "Ed Sullivan" for a minute more.

The audio cut out just before Clinton could answer Matthews's final question: "Did you watch the end of Downton Abbey?"