Waxangel Profile Blog Joined September 2002 United States 29129 Posts #1



Following reports that bettors on illegal gambling sites were involved in the sponsorship of online tournaments (



KeSPA said that it is difficult to regulate such tournaments as they are run from outside of Korea, and it would need to decide carefully when allowing players to compete. Regardless of the honest intentions of the players, a KeSPA representative said players would not be allowed to compete if KeSPA did not fully trust the organizer and the format of a tournament.



via: DailyEsports Following reports that bettors on illegal gambling sites were involved in the sponsorship of online tournaments ( read more ), KeSPA announced that it would exercise caution in allowing its member players to participate in such tournaments.KeSPA said that it is difficult to regulate such tournaments as they are run from outside of Korea, and it would need to decide carefully when allowing players to compete. Regardless of the honest intentions of the players, a KeSPA representative said players would not be allowed to compete if KeSPA did not fully trust the organizer and the format of a tournament. Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

lichter Profile Blog Joined September 2010 1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL 22233 Posts #2 is it wrong that i find the disparity between the "kespa too strict" and "kespa not strict enough" tones in the st forfeiture thread and the shady sponsor thread, respectively, kinda funny? Administrator YOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS

Growiel Profile Joined October 2010 Korea (South) 363 Posts #3 Let the KeSPA jail and KeSPA is the devil for having rules whinning begin!



I, for one, am happy with this even if it means less exposure for the players and it's actually a part of why KeSPA exists in the first: making sure things are okay. StarCraft II for ever.

neobowman Profile Blog Joined March 2008 Canada 3321 Posts #4 Kespa's in a really shitty spot tbh. No matter what they do about this right now, it can come off as negative.

OtherWorld Profile Blog Joined October 2013 France 17332 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-10 07:03:43 #5 Well, the thing is there are non-KeSPA players taking part in these events, and I'm pretty sure betters make money whether the players are from KeSPA or aren't >.> Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com

digmouse Profile Blog Joined November 2010 China 5661 Posts #6 Are there enough cells in kespa jail right now? Translator If you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.

Phredxor Profile Joined May 2013 New Zealand 15049 Posts #7 On February 10 2015 16:04 digmouse wrote:

Are there enough cells in kespa jail right now?



I'm sure they've had Byun hard at work over the last year or so creating new ones. I'm sure they've had Byun hard at work over the last year or so creating new ones.

vult Profile Blog Joined February 2012 United States 9278 Posts #8 I imagine KeSPA already has pretty strict rules when it comes to hosting lobbies, creating games, etc. I really hope that this kind of stuff can be easily prevented in the future and we don't have to worry about it. But, then again, any stream that provides a delay of that long with live spectators and multiple observers will always have a loophole for gamblers.



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Lumi Profile Blog Joined August 2009 United States 1610 Posts #9 It would be nice if KeSPA went further and worked with people in some minimal but secure, agreed upon way to try and ensure the conditions needed? twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong

Shuffleblade Profile Joined February 2012 Sweden 1821 Posts #10 This sounds like a very good idea to me, not having kespa players probably reduces the hype and betting and it also means kespa players cant be part of this shady shit. Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!

lord_nibbler Profile Joined March 2004 Germany 591 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-10 07:44:48 #11 On February 10 2015 15:50 Waxangel wrote:

KeSPA said that it is difficult to regulate such tournaments as they are run from outside of Korea, and it would need to decide carefully when allowing players to compete. Regardless of the honest intentions of the players, a KeSPA representative said players would not be allowed to compete if KeSPA did not fully trust the organizer and the format of a tournament.

Way to overreach KeSPA. You make it sound like anybody demanded that you personally have to put an end to this or that you are responsible for it.

Nobody was asking you to regulate anything! Just put out a warning to your members.

It sounds like all small tournament have to go through KeSPA now to become 'approved'.



Also what's with this xenophobic undertone? Cups are run from outside the country? Last I heard it was a primarily Korean issue... Way to overreach KeSPA. You make it sound like anybody demanded that you personally have to put an end to this or that you are responsible for it.Nobody was asking you to regulate anything! Just put out a warning to your members.It sounds like all small tournament have to go through KeSPA now to become 'approved'.Also what's with this xenophobic undertone? Cups are run from outside the country? Last I heard it was a primarily Korean issue...

Naikonz Profile Joined October 2014 Romania 47 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-10 07:50:21 #12 You know what I really fucking hate? The fact that it's "KeSPa players". Not players from SKT, or Jin Air or CJ or so on. Not the teams get to decide, but the organisation in which the teams play. This is bullshit. Why let a single organisation rule over what a player from a team can do in an online tournament? Especially if the team he belongs in is fine with it? Are these assholes such control freaks that they can't relinquish it even for online tournaments?

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TheOneAboveU Profile Blog Joined February 2011 Germany 3077 Posts #14 I like the step by KeSPA - if you want to have KeSPA players in your tournament now, you have to make sure that everything is working properly (legally!), and thats the reason KeSPA exists in the first place, right? To protects its players and the competition. Writer alias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!

Growiel Profile Joined October 2010 Korea (South) 363 Posts #15 On February 10 2015 16:50 Naikonz wrote:

You know what I really fucking hate? The fact that it's "KeSPa players". Not players from SKT, or Jin Air or CJ or so on. Not the teams get to decide, but the organisation in which the teams play. This is bullshit. Why let a single organisation rule over what a player from a team can do in an online tournament? Especially if the team he belongs in is fine with it? Are these assholes such control freaks that they can't relinquish it even for online tournaments?



Because KeSPA is not "an organisation" but a branch of the Korean Government. It's something that does exist anywhere else. Because KeSPA is not "an organisation" but a branch of the Korean Government. It's something that does exist anywhere else. StarCraft II for ever.

KrazyTrumpet Profile Joined April 2010 United States 2520 Posts #16 On February 10 2015 17:01 TheOneAboveU wrote:

I like the step by KeSPA - if you want to have KeSPA players in your tournament now, you have to make sure that everything is working properly (legally!), and thats the reason KeSPA exists in the first place, right? To protects its players and the competition.



This would be nice if they ever bothered to actually work with people outside of their little circle. This would be nice if they ever bothered to actually work with people outside of their little circle. www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2

fronkschnonk Profile Joined November 2011 Germany 616 Posts #17 I might lack some key knowledge here - I don't now anything about sports betting - but I do not quite understand this. How is a tournament more ore less attractive for cheating at bets by its rules? It sounds like kespa is making online tournaments responsible for shadiness, while the cheating is actually done by bettors and perhaps some players (hopefully not).

I really don't get it - do I miss something here? Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.

Penev Profile Joined October 2012 27636 Posts #18 On February 10 2015 16:57 oneofthem wrote:

kespa is the borg of teams. it's the korean way of doing business. together

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Pandemona Profile Blog Joined March 2011 Charlie Sheens House 42838 Posts #19 Not sure if it just me either but im happy with this as well. Kespa strangely enough only made a few mess ups in SC2 imo and this is ok move to stop.

Then again how will you be able to see which tournament is fake and real and also then if you stop most of them playing who want to win money it might be a tad harsh stopping people winning money.



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swissman777 Profile Joined September 2014 1106 Posts #20 On February 10 2015 17:11 KrazyTrumpet wrote:

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On February 10 2015 17:01 TheOneAboveU wrote:

I like the step by KeSPA - if you want to have KeSPA players in your tournament now, you have to make sure that everything is working properly (legally!), and thats the reason KeSPA exists in the first place, right? To protects its players and the competition.



This would be nice if they ever bothered to actually work with people outside of their little circle. This would be nice if they ever bothered to actually work with people outside of their little circle.



Yep, something like that. This means Kespa would have to be very active to make things work, and that's quite a big "if".

I wonder if they'd bother employing someone to check for all the potential event organizers from the foreign scene. I guess wolf/tastosis would need to do extra work to convince Kespa to allow players to play with reliable hosts such as basetrade. Yep, something like that. This means Kespa would have to be very active to make things work, and that's quite a big "if".I wonder if they'd bother employing someone to check for all the potential event organizers from the foreign scene. I guess wolf/tastosis would need to do extra work to convince Kespa to allow players to play with reliable hosts such as basetrade.

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