Lycangrope Profile Joined October 2013 United States 110 Posts #1 First and foremost, this is not in affiliation with TaKeTV. I'm just drawing inspiration from their HomeStory Cup format.



HSC is a staple for SC2. It's a unique event and it gives a lot of personality to the scene. I don't want to make a carbon copy of TaKe's event. I'd like to take the base idea - a casual, 3 day event with intimate player and personality interactions - and put some sort of twist to make it unique in its own right, aside from likely having heavily North American attendance. What will that twist be? Still working that angle.



I have spoken with some folks who would be interested in supporting a North American event that was similar to HSC, and before I draft and submit the partnership deck, I wanted to take time to gather the community's thoughts and feedback.



Korean and European Invites:



Who are the "must have" players and casters that you would like to see come to the United States?



NA Talent



What NA players/personalities do you want to see at this event?



Location and Venue



I'm thinking the Baltimore, MD's Inner-Harbor, Washington D.C., or Ocean City, MD (only if it's run in the summer). The venue would be a rented out penthouse or condo.



Dates



I do not want this conflicting with any major events or qualifiers, which likely means this won't happen until next year for the sake of proper planning. I will also do what I can to avoid running the event anywhere close to TaKe's HSC, as I don't want to give the vibe of competition. I'd like your thoughts on Spring, Summer and Winter for this event.



Funding



I have zero desire to Kickstart this event. The main people I'm pitching this to would be able to manage the majority of the logistics and staffing and other sponsors should be more than capable if covering the additional costs (travel, lodging, etc.).



Final Thoughts



I'm open to input on the above topics and anything I haven't listed. This is for all members of the community, so please let me know what you'd like to see to make this a special event rather than a rehash of what TaKe already does so well. Commentator Confucius say, "it is easy to make it over the hill when banelings lead the way."

Finalmastery Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 58 Posts #2 I would 100% volunteer for this!!!!! " The will to win is nothing without the will to prepare" - Juma Ikaanga

Ariumtv Profile Blog Joined May 2013 United States 106 Posts #3 Amazing, I hope I could be apart of this. Good luck! Won't stop, till I am at the top.

SC2CTL Profile Joined July 2013 Canada 104 Posts #4



For reference, this was done in Canada in the form of the Icy Cup: The problem I have with something like this is what advantage it has over HSC. Is it focusing on American Players? If so, why are Koreans and Europeans getting invited then?For reference, this was done in Canada in the form of the Icy Cup: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Icy_Cup, which simply highlighted only Canadians. It was a good show.

Anoteros Profile Joined October 2013 44 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-28 17:43:42 #5 Preferably not during winter, my Californian blood would freeze right in my veins.



As far as personalities I'd like to see:



-iNcontroL

-FearDragon

-Destiny

-Fenner

-RotterdaM

-Day9 (pls)

-ToD

-Nathanias





Players:



I'd like to see anything that involved a grudge match or rivalry. Something a bit more fun to look forward to rather than leave it to the randomness of the brackets.

(Obviously the tournament format may not allow for these matchups)



(Naniwa vs Polt, Gungfubanda [anyone really lol])

Miniraser vs MarineLord, DesRow

Jaedong vs Flash

Scarlett vs Bomber

Petraeus vs TheMightyKiwi

CombatEx vs Destiny / CatZ / iNcontroL



(I'm sure I'm missing a ton)



Anything with some juicy drama attached would be fun to watch squashed for the time being. Put those tweets to rest and let's see some games! :D Twitch.tv/AnoterosTV

feardragon Profile Blog Joined October 2010 United States 923 Posts #6 I would absolutely love to do what I can to make this happen as well.



I think one big thing about running this kind of event is travel costs for people. I like the idea of doing this out in the north part of the midwest rather than east or west coast. This means West Coast and East Coast don't have insane travel times/costs, it's close to Canada for the whole Toronto scene, the midwest will probably have cheaper costs to make all of this kind of stuff happen. This is mostly speculation on my part so I don't have numbers to back these thoughts up though.



Other thing is, a lot of the NA scene is semi-pro. Would you plan to do open bracket for the whole event, or have qualifiers for a paid flight + hotel? I know you don't have funding for anything yet so it's hard to talk numbers but what's your ideal player count? I think a lot of these things will really affect the kind of event this will end up being. Garbage Starcraft 2 Commentator

nerpderp Profile Joined February 2013 United States 780 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-28 17:45:29 #7 On July 29 2015 02:38 SC2CTL wrote:

The problem I have with something like this is what advantage it has over HSC. Is it focusing on American Players? If so, why are Koreans and Europeans getting invited then?



For reference, this was done in Canada in the form of the Icy Cup: The problem I have with something like this is what advantage it has over HSC. Is it focusing on American Players? If so, why are Koreans and Europeans getting invited then?For reference, this was done in Canada in the form of the Icy Cup: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Icy_Cup, which simply highlighted only Canadians. It was a good show.



I think the best model for this event might be Red Bull Atlanta from last year. The event didn't have the best players (not even the best NA players showed up), but they had entertaining games, highlighted the personalities, and overall put on a great, distinctly "NA" show (DirtyGG, anyone?). Certainly Lycan won't have the funds for something at that level, but it might be a good source to draw inspiration. I think the best model for this event might be Red Bull Atlanta from last year. The event didn't have the best players (not even the best NA players showed up), but they had entertaining games, highlighted the personalities, and overall put on a great, distinctly "NA" show (DirtyGG, anyone?). Certainly Lycan won't have the funds for something at that level, but it might be a good source to draw inspiration. "It's not that I have A.D.D., it's just that oh look a bunny rabbit!"

SC2Towelie Profile Joined July 2014 United States 561 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-28 17:49:39 #8 On July 29 2015 02:23 Lycangrope wrote:

I'm thinking the Baltimore, MD's Inner-Harbor, Washington D.C., or Ocean City, MD (only if it's run in the summer). The venue would be a rented out penthouse or condo.





YES please please please somewhere on the east coast, it's been so long since we've had a major Starcraft event!



Also I will be glad to help out in any way if you're looking for volunteers! (SC2Towelie on twitter) YES please please please somewhere on the east coast, it's been so long since we've had a major Starcraft event!Also I will be glad to help out in any way if you're looking for volunteers! (SC2Towelie on twitter) Don't forget to bring a towel! (Towelie.635)

Ctone23 Profile Blog Joined December 2012 United States 1819 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-31 19:26:09 #9 Gauntlet Esports

Big J Profile Joined March 2011 Austria 16272 Posts #10 you gotta bring out avilo. I'd watch 24/7 how avilo meets Korean professionals and rages about them.

Pirfiktshon Profile Joined June 2013 United States 1072 Posts #11 Depending on where it would be me and my wife might come and I would love to see EJK at this event tbh

Deathstar Profile Blog Joined May 2010 9150 Posts #12 On July 29 2015 03:12 Big J wrote:

you gotta bring out avilo. I'd watch 24/7 how avilo meets Korean professionals and rages about them. you gotta bring out avilo. I'd watch 24/7 how avilo meets Korean professionals and rages about them.



NA vs KR

Avilo will be the NA opening appetizer with Arium as the entree NA vs KRAvilo will be the NA opening appetizer with Arium as the entree rip passion

SausageBiscuit Profile Joined March 2015 72 Posts #13 Why not Gofundme for some additional funds?



This would be awesome!

TelecoM Profile Blog Joined January 2010 United States 10256 Posts #14 Yes, yes, and yes. This sounds amazing! Starting practicing now ^^ AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting

intotheheart Profile Blog Joined January 2011 Canada 16855 Posts #15 I think that for me, Destiny and Incontrol are really important. I find that when watching HSC, shy, quiet pro-gamers open up a lot more when Incontrol's there with them. kiss kiss fall in love

Darkdwarf Profile Blog Joined December 2012 Sweden 959 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-28 18:23:13 #16 I would say that winter seems a good time. Usually a bit of downtime and the serious tournaments haven't really kicked off yet.



EDIT: Agree with the poster above. InControl is a must for me personally. Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark

partouf Profile Blog Joined May 2011 Netherlands 405 Posts #17 Venue and area important, put your fangs into that so you can figure out ways of travel and costs, and ways you can play around with the space you have, equipment you'll need, etcetera.



You'll never get the perfect date, just pick one that's available now and hope for the best.



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ZombieGrub Profile Blog Joined May 2011 United States 627 Posts #18 I'll just put the feedback here so other people can yay or nay -



Not using crowdfunding is obviously the more 'professional' way to go, shall we say. You won't get any trolls saying 'well if they can't afford it don't do it' etc etc, but crowdfunding is really exciting. The ability to feel like you were 'a part of it all' and to get some really cool rewards is a really fun addition, imo. And I'm trying not to say this as someone who had a kickstarted event, but rather as a fan who supported something like Lone Star Clash.



Obviously if everything can be paid for by sponsors, great, but finding some way to include the audience as more than just a viewer is neat-o too. Commentator "Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." Masters terran: twitch.tv/zombiegrub Caster: @ZGGaming

Pontius Pirate Profile Blog Joined August 2013 United States 1556 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-28 18:54:34 #19 I think Solar and at least one Axiom player would be important Koreans to snag, partly because of their excellent english. Jaedong would be good, as would Flash or Stork, due to their ingrained popularity from their BW past selves. Parting is a straight-up must. San is a good choice, as his Hero. The other herO is a decent choice as well.



On the European side, the Liquid boys are pretty reliably popular. Avoid players who are only popular due to reddit, such as Naniwa or Morrow. You don't want that kind of dependence on controversy. It would be neat if you could get some up-and-comers, such as Showtime or Uthermal.



From NA, you'll want the personalities InControl and Scarlett (the latter partly for her analysis skills), the analyst QXC, the players Xenocider, Puck, Kane, and Neeb. You should ideally bring in some SA players such as Kelazhur, and some Mexicans, such as JimRising. "I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream

dvorakftw Profile Blog Joined November 2011 681 Posts #20 Think about the different ways the tournament can be done. For example you could do groups of 6 or 8 where they play round-robin BO1 and you can then go to a playoff bracket with seeds based on those results.



You can also have the ones not in the playoffs for randomized teams in a 2v2 and/or archon tournament to get added view on the trip. Or you can even let everyone in that and do broadcasts from replay to fill downtime with the players doing commentary on their own matches.



I'd also suggest for a first event keeping expenses as low as possible including seeing what could be done without covering full travel and the room costs. It's real easy to get high expenses quick and there are bound to be problems the first time. Remember what the first HSC was. Don't try to be what HSC is now.





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