TheEmulator Profile Joined July 2010 12999 Posts #2 Whoooo Korean Doto! Administrator

eieio Profile Joined November 2009 United States 12100 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-27 04:56:39 #3



also here are my notes from the end of the game lol

fwiw I'm not kidding I started screaming during LB finals g2 (MVP vs Vega)also here are my notes from the end of the game lol someone hold me I don’t know whats happening

ASNDKJLASNDAKSD

THAT FUCKING GAME HOLY SHIT

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DucK- Profile Joined January 2009 Singapore 9489 Posts #4 Heen from his AMA: "QO is super aggressive. He believes in the psychological factor of actively making your opponents feel pressured. He doesn't believe in consequences because what might be or might not be is hypothetical during the game. You go the fuck in and find out according to him, lol. He'll never flame a teammate for being too aggressive. Only for being a pussy." My prediction for MVP in the group stage is that they're gonna show promise, get an early kill lead, then KP plays like shit, March's Clock has no farm/levels/impact, QO does QO things + Show Spoiler +

Mafe Profile Joined February 2011 Germany 3240 Posts #5 I just hope that for the knockout stages, they will go back to presenting the series as one entry in the ingame "watch games" tab. For the wildcards, it shows every game as a single entry, which means that for me it was clear the MVP vs Vega series went to game 3 and therefore it was guaranteed that I would know the winner of game 2 while watching it (from what the commentators talked about).

If there was another spoiler-free way to rewatch series ingame, feel free to tell me. If not, I'll probably stick to youtube for matches I will miss.

ahswtini Profile Joined June 2008 Northern Ireland 16336 Posts #6 waow didnt think mvp would make it, that game 2 tho "As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse

haduken Profile Joined April 2003 Australia 1125 Posts #7 feel like mvp is decent but too prone to mistakes that high level dotoers will punish them for. Rillanon.au

kaztah Profile Joined September 2010 Norway 592 Posts #8 If this day was anything to go by, this TI might be very interesting. Some of the games were crazy. I speak fluent sarcasm.

Corgi Profile Joined December 2014 United States 385 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-27 09:14:54 #9 On July 27 2015 16:31 ahswtini wrote:

waow didnt think mvp would make it, that game 2 tho



Honestly they had a bunch of options to take mid rax without having to rely so much on relocate backdooring. The only way for them to have lost is if the ember got magical crits with the divine and basically instakill two of their heroes.



Not really impressed by Capitalist's casting in that second game however. Honestly they had a bunch of options to take mid rax without having to rely so much on relocate backdooring. The only way for them to have lost is if the ember got magical crits with the divine and basically instakill two of their heroes.Not really impressed by Capitalist's casting in that second game however.

Defessus Profile Joined July 2011 Korea (South) 111 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-27 09:47:18 #10 On July 27 2015 16:32 haduken wrote:

feel like mvp is decent but too prone to mistakes that high level dotoers will punish them for.



This is true, but Korean mentality seems to be the following.



1. Work hard.

2. Make mistake? --> Practice.

3. Practice --> Soju --> Practice

4. Mistake is eventually corrected.



This is true, but Korean mentality seems to be the following.1. Work hard.2. Make mistake? --> Practice.3. Practice --> Soju --> Practice4. Mistake is eventually corrected.

LennX Profile Joined October 2010 3257 Posts #11 eieio: I legitimately started screaming in my apartment, alone, while watching this game. There's really not much more to say



Game 2 was really that good. I agree with you! Game 2 was really that good. I agree with you! Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads

Acritter Profile Joined August 2010 Syria 4698 Posts #12 On July 27 2015 16:32 haduken wrote:

feel like mvp is decent but too prone to mistakes that high level dotoers will punish them for.

Only way that people stop making mistakes is if they get punished for those mistakes. MVP's overall strength (between both teams) has been going up as they've poked their way into the world scene, and we ought to see those mistakes less and less. Only way that people stop making mistakes is if they get punished for those mistakes. MVP's overall strength (between both teams) has been going up as they've poked their way into the world scene, and we ought to see those mistakes less and less. dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria

AT.Epiphany Profile Joined February 2015 India 65 Posts #13 On July 27 2015 16:32 haduken wrote:

feel like mvp is decent but too prone to mistakes that high level dotoers will punish them for.



I disagree.



While he is a very good analyst, this is why Winter got it wrong on the cast and Synd was 100% correct. When you're competing against really strong teams a lot of potential with erratic play is much better than just being stable and not making many mistakes while not being brilliant either. Top-class teams can beat you even if you don't make big mistakes, but from what I've seen MVP can genuinely win games if they play really well.



That aside, the moment I saw the player interviews on the cast, I knew MVP was going through and Vega wasn't. It was just so sad to see the allegedly stronger team speak about how they didn't really think they could do very well at the main event, that they were aiming for 8th spot, and just wanted to take a vacation on the seaside. Those guys have never won more than $5,000. Small-stakes grinders never do well at the big stage because the lack the courage to even aim big.



By contrast, MVP said things like "We can do really well. The qualifier is no big deal if we are good enough to be in the top 8, this should be smooth sailing." Just the difference in outlook and confidence levels was bound to tell. I disagree.While he is a very good analyst, this is why Winter got it wrong on the cast and Synd was 100% correct. When you're competing against really strong teams a lot of potential with erratic play is much better than just being stable and not making many mistakes while not being brilliant either. Top-class teams can beat you even if you don't make big mistakes, but from what I've seen MVP can genuinely win games if they play really well.That aside, the moment I saw the player interviews on the cast, I knew MVP was going through and Vega wasn't. It was just so sad to see the allegedly stronger team speak about how they didn't really think they could do very well at the main event, that they were aiming for 8th spot, and just wanted to take a vacation on the seaside. Those guys have never won more than $5,000. Small-stakes grinders never do well at the big stage because the lack the courage to even aim big.By contrast, MVP said things like "We can do really well. The qualifier is no big deal if we are good enough to be in the top 8, this should be smooth sailing." Just the difference in outlook and confidence levels was bound to tell.

phantomlancer23 Profile Joined May 2013 622 Posts #14 Huh i went to sleep when Vega were owning them 1-0,thats the TI effect for europeans it happened a lot of times to me,anyway i dont believe in korea dota atm they played really bad as to the point i watched.

mutantmagnet Profile Joined June 2009 United States 2990 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-27 11:43:41 #15 On July 27 2015 14:37 DucK- wrote:

My prediction for MVP in the group stage is that they're gonna show promise, get an early kill lead, then KP plays like shit, March's Clock has no farm/levels/impact, QO does QO things Heen from his AMA: "QO is super aggressive. He believes in the psychological factor of actively making your opponents feel pressured. He doesn't believe in consequences because what might be or might not be is hypothetical during the game. You go the fuck in and find out according to him, lol. He'll never flame a teammate for being too aggressive. Only for being a pussy." My prediction for MVP in the group stage is that they're gonna show promise, get an early kill lead, then KP plays like shit, March's Clock has no farm/levels/impact, QO does QO things + Show Spoiler + and throws away the lead. Then they lose, but with their heads held high.





"He'll never flame a teammate for being too aggressive. Only for being a pussy."





QO and SingSing on the same team live streaming would be some amazing comedy.







QO and SingSing on the same team live streaming would be some amazing comedy. On July 27 2015 15:40 Mafe wrote:

I just hope that for the knockout stages, they will go back to presenting the series as one entry in the ingame "watch games" tab. For the wildcards, it shows every game as a single entry, which means that for me it was clear the MVP vs Vega series went to game 3 and therefore it was guaranteed that I would know the winner of game 2 while watching it (from what the commentators talked about).

If there was another spoiler-free way to rewatch series ingame, feel free to tell me. If not, I'll probably stick to youtube for matches I will miss.





You can't get matches ID's spoiler free.



But you can find VODs that are spoiler free here



http://www.dotacinema.com/vods/14105#game3









You can't get matches ID's spoiler free.But you can find VODs that are spoiler free here

Faruko Profile Joined April 2013 Chile 30244 Posts #16 Im still waiting for WR to land a shackle... Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)

DucK- Profile Joined January 2009 Singapore 9489 Posts #17 On July 27 2015 21:09 Faruko wrote:

Im still waiting for WR to land a shackle...



The Omni pick made the draft a total outpick, though noone missing so many Shackles made things much worse. The Omni pick made the draft a total outpick, though noone missing so many Shackles made things much worse.

Faruko Profile Joined April 2013 Chile 30244 Posts Last Edited: 2015-07-27 13:00:46 #18 On July 27 2015 21:51 DucK- wrote:

Show nested quote +

On July 27 2015 21:09 Faruko wrote:

Im still waiting for WR to land a shackle...



The Omni pick made the draft a total outpick, though noone missing so many Shackles made things much worse. The Omni pick made the draft a total outpick, though noone missing so many Shackles made things much worse.

it did, but by the time the match was "lost" Omni wasnt a huge deal to be fair



the early game advantage was enough to overcome that IMO, but you cant pick a tusk that cant land a good shard, a slardar that (by the way, should have rushed blink and rekt SF IMO) didnt got more than 1 decent crush (although, ES was part of it) and a WR that cant land a single shackle



With the early game advatange they got and hiting skills that game was almost impossible for MVP it did, but by the time the match was "lost" Omni wasnt a huge deal to be fairthe early game advantage was enough to overcome that IMO, but you cant pick a tusk that cant land a good shard, a slardar that (by the way, should have rushed blink and rekt SF IMO) didnt got more than 1 decent crush (although, ES was part of it) and a WR that cant land a single shackleWith the early game advatange they got and hiting skills that game was almost impossible for MVP Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)

infiniteJest Profile Joined December 2013 United States 185 Posts #19 no matter how low wisp winrate is in pubs it always skyrockets at the international "If equal affections cannot be, let the more loving one be me."

ErradoZenon Profile Joined July 2015 Brazil 45 Posts #20 Good job , MVP and CDEC are looking good ! Balance in all things

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