

House prosecutors, Clinton lawyers wrangle over videotaped testimony Nation gets a chance to see, hear Monica Lewinsky February 6, 1999

Web posted at: 7:16 p.m. EST (0016 GMT) WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, February 6) -- In a war of dueling videotapes, House prosecutors and White House lawyers argued Saturday whether Monica Lewinsky's latest testimony helps or hurts the impeachment case against President Bill Clinton. In this story: Videotaped excerpts: Monica Lewinsky

Videotaped excerpts: Vernon Jordan

Videotaped excerpts: Sidney Blumenthal

A possible delay in trial? House prosecutors said Lewinsky's testimony shows that Clinton was guilty of "a broad tapestry of corruption" and urged senators to vote to convict and remove him from office. "Your president obstructed justice, in a mean way," said Rep. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), one of the House prosecutors. "For God's sake, get to the truth; figure our what kind of person we have here in the White House." But one of Clinton's lawyers called the prosecutors' excerpts of Lewinsky's testimony "terribly misleading" and said she actually bolstered the president's case. Rep. Lindsey Graham Clinton lawyer Nicole Seligman accused House prosecutors of taking the former White House intern's testimony out of context. "They have distorted, they have omitted and they have created a profoundly erroneous impression," Seligman said. The Senate impeachment trial resumes at 1 p.m. EST Monday, with closing arguments by the two sides. Senators are due to begin deliberating Clinton's fate Tuesday, with no sign they are close to the 67 votes needed to remove him. Saturday marked the nation's first opportunity to see and hear Lewinsky, the woman at the heart of the White House sex-and-perjury scandal. In the videotape snippets shown during the prosecutors' summation, Lewinsky, dressed in a black dress and wearing a strand of pearls, generally seemed self-assured and forceful in her testimony. But she looked nervous and uncomfortable at times, too. "Today the analysis and the speculation ends," Rep. James Rogan (R-California) told senators. "There is only one judgment the Senate must make for history. Do you believe her? "If you believe her, you will see this morning how the president wove a web of perjury and obstruction of justice," he said. Rogan said if Clinton were only guilty of adultery, there would be no impeachment trial. But at each step along the way, Clinton made bad choices aimed at impeding Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit against him, Rogan said. "We seek no congressional punishment for a man who chose to cheat on his wife," Rogan said. But House prosecutors have an obligation to seek punishment, he said, "for a president who chose to cheat the law." Monica Lewinsky, in her

videotaped testimony

LEWINSKY DEPOSITION On her current status

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Windows Media: 28K | 80K Deposition transcripts Clinton's political and personal legacy is "indulging all choices and accepting no consequences," Rogan said. If senators believe Lewinsky's testimony about her relationship with Clinton, "the just and proper verdict would be to replace him with Vice President Al Gore," Rogan said. Rogan played clips from Lewinsky's videotaped deposition in which she related that she and Clinton discussed using cover stories to conceal their affair. Later she said that Betty Currie, Clinton's personal secretary, called her and arranged to pick up gifts Clinton had given her. Currie would only have called, Rogan said, if she had been told to do so by the president. The testimony by Lewinsky is evidence, Rogan said, that Clinton participated in obstruction of justice. "If her testimony is truthful, then the president committed the offenses in the articles of impeachment," he said. Rep. Graham drew laughter when he questioned Clinton's late-night call to Lewinsky to tell her she was on a witness list in the Jones case. "Where I come from, you call somebody at 2:30 in the morning, you're up to no good," Graham said. Rep. Asa Hutchinson (R-Arkansas), another of the House prosecutors, asserted that the call to Lewinsky on the night of December 17, 1997, when Clinton told her she would be a witness in the Jones case, was also obstruction of justice. To illustrate the point, Hutchinson played a section of Lewinsky's deposition in which she said, "From what I learned in that conversation, I thought to myself I would deny the relationship" to Jones' lawyers. Rep. James Rogan "What he (Clinton) is telling a witness in a case that is adverse to him is that you do not have to tell the truth," Hutchinson said. "You can use the cover stories that were used before. He says continue the same lies even though you are in a court of law ... "Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, in my book that is illegal, and I hate to say it, obstruction of justice by the president of the United States," Hutchinson said. The prosecutors also aired selections of deposed testimony by White House aide Sidney Blumenthal and presidential Vernon friend Jordan, the other two witnesses that received Senate subpoenas. When it was the White House's turn to summarize the case, Clinton counsel Seligman played an extensive segment of Lewinsky's deposition, in which she said she and Clinton never discussed the content of the affidavit she gave in the Jones case, that he did not want to see it, and that she believed she could give a affidavit that was not false. On the question of gifts from the president, Seligman said, Lewinsky testified that in an interview with investigators from the Office of the Independent Council, she corroborated a statement by Clinton that he told her to "turn over whatever she had." The gifts had been subpoenaed by Jones' lawyers. Vernon Jordan, in his

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JORDAN DEPOSITION Jordan says assistance had nothing to do with Paula Jones case

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Windows Media: 28K | 80K Deposition transcripts Asked if Clinton ever told her to turn over the gifts, Lewinsky said she was asked a series of questions after Clinton had testified before the grand jury. When it came to his statement that he told Lewinsky to turn over the gifts, she said, "I said that's sounds a little bit familiar to me." Seligman said that was only one piece of evidence supporting the president's case not included the independent counsel's report to Congress. "We can only wonder, in troubled disbelief, how much more we still don't know," she said. Seligman said the question of who initiated the transfer of the gifts from Lewinsky to Currie remains unresolved. "Mrs. Currie has one recollection; Ms. Lewinsky another," Seligman said. Transcripts of the Lewinsky, Jordan and Blumenthal testimony were released Friday, and the information appears to both help and hurt the president. In some areas, Lewinsky helped the prosecution's case, casting doubt on Clinton's sworn grand jury testimony in which he told her she might have to turn over gifts he gave her if they were subpoenaed. Lewinsky insisted that it was indeed Clinton's secretary, Currie, who initiated the hiding of the gifts. But in testimony that should be beneficial to the president, Lewinsky insisted that the president did not coach her to file a false affidavit in the Jones case and refused to say that Clinton lied in his testimony about the nature of their relationship. Sidney Blumenthal, in his videotaped testimony

BLUMENTHAL DEPOSITION Talks about Clinton's account of what happened

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Windows Media: 28K | 80K Deposition transcripts Lewinsky admitted in her testimony that she has "mixed feelings" for Clinton. In their latest testimony, Jordan and Blumenthal stuck closely to what they said in previous grand jury appearances. Jordan did admit he had breakfast with Lewinsky on December 31 when confronted with a receipt from the meal. He denied, though, that he told Lewinsky to destroy notes she had drafted to the president. Lewinsky testified that she interpreted a remark from Jordan as a suggestion that she get rid of the notes. The prosecutors wanted Lewinsky to testify in person, but the Senate rejected their request Thursday in a decisive, 70-30 vote. The Senate hopes to vote on the two articles of impeachment against the president by Friday. QUICK VOTE Does seeing Lewinsky, Jordan, and Blumenthal on videotape change your opinion of the impeachment trial? It makes no difference at all

Should have had live witnesses after all

Shouldn't have had any witnesses at all

View Results CNN's Bob Franken, John King and Brooks Jackson contributed to this report.