James Damore, the Google engineer that was fired for writing a memo criticizing the company’s diversity policies, said in a Thursday interview that Google employees publicly criticize people based on race and gender in meetings.

“You can openly shame white people or all men [at Google], and we do this in our company-wide meetings,” Damore said. “There’s definitely a bias toward certain movements.”

During the interview with the Daily Wire’s Ben Shapiro, Damore claimed that Google firing him for pushing “harmful gender stereotypes” only revealed the company’s overblown emphasis on diversity, denying allegations that his memo had pushed “harmful gender stereotypes.”

“They’re putting their ideology before truth,” Damore said. “When one side is just trying to guilt you and call you names, and the other is actually using evidence and science, you know which one is actually seeking truth.”

Damore also claimed diversity issues are often exaggerated at Google, citing an instance of a female employee who complained on message boards of not feeling “included” at the company. The woman had posted a question “that had something to do with gender,” Damore said. Her post received 300 votes, only 50 of which were “down votes,” but she nevertheless claimed that one in six people disagreeing with her was enough to make her not feel welcome.

Damore claimed Google’s obsession with diversity is so pervasive that “it may definitely be biasing who they do business with.” He said he only used scientific research in his memo and never claimed that women were biologically worse than men at tech jobs.

Google CEO Sundar Pichai explained Damore’s firing in his own memo, claiming that Damore had pushed “harmful gender stereotypes,” but Damore claims the company is vilifying him. (RELATED: ‘They Betrayed Me’ Google Engineer Who Wrote Diversity Memo Feels ‘Punished’)

Despite the company’s reaction, he said many of his former colleagues supported his memo.

“Since I’ve written it there have been many people that privately message me and say that yeah I support you and yeah this is a real problem,” Damore said.

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