Do you remember Glastonbury, Mark? ** **MS: I do, very clearly. Because we were punks and, not to be rude, we were against hippies. It was a tribal thing; before that it would be like a City or Rovers football thing back in Bristol and people would shout at you "City or Rovers?" even if you didn't have a football scarf on. You also had the skinheads and the suedeheads, but we were smoothies.

**VR:**​ I was talking about this recently. When we were kids in the 70s, one week I'd be a smoothie, the next week I'd be a hippy, and then I'd be a funkster. I used to change every week, depending on what I was into. Like if I was into Captain Beefheart one week...

MS: Ah, so you were into Beefheart at a young age? You were a music head? See, I was into the clothes but - and I shouldn't say this - I wasn't really into music. I saw Alvin Stardust on Top of the Pops with a black glove on with a ring on it, pointing at the screen and I thought if I can make a living out of that and I don't have to go and work in one of those aircraft factories like you did then I'm up for it.

VR:​​ Do you know why he wore the black glove?

MS: No.

**VR:**​ His name was Shane Fenton and he had blonde hair and his manager told him to dye his hair black to look a lot cooler. So he dyed his hair black, got it all over his hands and it dripped all down his face too so he put on stick-on black sideburns and black gloves to cover up all the dye and that's how Alvin Stardust was born.