dukeblue91 said: Sorry to say this ( Not Really ) but you are wrong about just having a number and many other things too but I'll go with this for now.



When being pulled over and asked for your Drivers license and registration it means just that, and not what you think is sufficient in your mind.

Giving a cop your DL number does not proof anything to them or identifies you as being that person that that said number says you should be.

And will not be acceptable to them wether you like it or not.



Same goes if you go to a bar to have a drink if they ask to see your ID your number or a picture of it on a phone will not suffice to proof your age or your identity.



As far as taking your passport on a plane that all nice but a Drivers License will be needed in lieu of and you don't need a Passport for domestic flights.

And you do know that you can fly within cities and states in the US, you know it is still called local travel.



How you leaped from my example of a Concealed Handgun Permit which has to be accompanied with a DL or state ID in all states that offer one, to a AR15, Bubba and the Second Amendment of our constitution is beyond my comprehension.

But it paints a clear picture of what kind of person you are and are not.



This is all I will say about the constitution on this forum as it really has nothing to do with Google wallet or Pass books apps or phones and what you can and can not do with them.



I would like if you could do all that with those apps and would not need to carry both a phone and a wallet but it is just not doable at this time. Click to expand...

I suggest you educate yourself on the law before speaking. Everything you stated above is wrong with regards to police and id. If I am on public property and not involved in any legal activity, a cop can ask for my id and I do not have to respond. I can walk away. If the cop were to have reasonable suspicion that I was involved in a crime or matched a description we can move to a Terry Stop and he can ask for ID. I DO NOT have to provide one, I simply have to state my name and date of birth and address. The Supreme Court has thrown out every State challenge that a person is required to have "credible and reliable" id that carries a "reasonable assurance" of its authenticity, on grounds of 'vagueness'.As long as you are not in the middle of committing a crime, obstructing justice or there is reasonable suspicion by a cop to believe you have or are about to commit a crime, you need only provide a verbal response during a Terry Stop. Having my identification digitally stored goes beyond this requirement and allows an officer to view my dl number to cross check with dmv records. Should that cop attempt to view any other info on my phone has been deemed a violation of my rights and not admissible.As for bars, clubs that serve etc... They specifically state in writing that you must have a valid I'd to be served and they also have the right for refusal. These a privately owned bars complying with Federal and State laws. This is not the same thing as above. You are not forced into any bar and no one forces you to drink. If I don't want to carry a paper Id, I don't have to go drinking. There is a choice here.I also do not have to fly. Again, if I don't want to carry an ID, I don't have to fly. In my case though, I don't need a drivers license to fly anyway. And if you want to use a passport to fly domestically or any other for of government ID, you can. But this is only for security checkpoints, not in actually obtaining a ticket.You need to learn the difference between free, detained, arrested; State and Federal laws, with an emphasis on identification. And remember Federal law trumps State law. In other words, I don't need my actually plastic license on me. Ever