Donald Trump Jr. said there’s nothing wrong with his father’s claim that he can sexually assault women — “grab ’em by the pussy” — because he’s a celebrity. In fact, Donald Jr. told Charlotte radio station WBT that the comments make his father “a human.”

“I’ve had conversations like that with plenty of people where people use language off color. They’re talking, two guys, amongst themselves. I’ve seen it time and time again. I think it makes him a human,” Donald Jr. said, according to Politico. “I think it makes him a normal person, not a political robot. He hasn’t spent his whole life waiting for this moment to run for the presidency.”

Donald Jr. also said the allegations from seven women that Trump actually acted on his words and assaulted them are “probably a typical New York Times smear campaign” and that he had “never heard anything dumber in my life.”

This is essentially how Trump has justified his boasts about sexually assaulting women, which surfaced after the Washington Post published leaked audio from 2005. Trump said his past remarks were just “locker room talk.”

The justification, however, doesn’t at all explain why men in general — or Trump in particular — would think it’s okay to talk about committing a literal crime against women in a joking manner. Just because a lot of people are doing something — if that’s even the case, which plenty of people dispute — doesn’t make it right.

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