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Media Lock-Up - CRTC to announce its decision on wholesale high-speed access services

WHEN: November 15, 2011

Lock-up: 2:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.



WHERE:



CRTC Central Office

1 Promenade du Portage, Les Terrasses de la Chaudière

Central Building, Gatineau, Quebec



OTTAWA-GATINEAU, Nov. 10, 2011 /CNW/ - On November 15, 2011, a media lock-up will be held from 2:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. at the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to announce the CRTC's decision on wholesale high-speed access services.



Any parties interested in attending the lock-up are asked to contact Mireille Dion at mireille.dion@crtc.gc.ca by noon on November 14. Reporters will be required to sign a non-disclosure agreement upon arrival.



No one will be permitted to leave the lock-up before 4:00 p.m. Cell phones, wireless handheld devices (e.g. Blackberries), pagers, etc. must be left with the CRTC staff in the room. Laptop owners must disable wireless capabilities prior to arriving at the CRTC. Telephone lines and Internet will be available at the CRTC at 4 p.m.



The decision will be posted on the CRTC website at 4:00 p.m. at www.crtc.gc.ca



The CRTC



The CRTC is an independent, public authority that regulates and supervises broadcasting and telecommunications in Canada.



Reference documents:



Role of CRTC in Internet Pricing? [PDF]

Internet services at a glance

Telecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-77

Telecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-77-1

Telecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-77-2



For further information:

Media Relations: »

Tel: 819-997-9403, Fax: 819-997-4245



General Inquiries:

Tel: 819-997-0313, TDD: 819-994-0423, Fax: 819-994-0218

Toll-free # 1-877-249-CRTC (2782)

»www.crtc.gc.ca/rapidsccm ··· p?lang=e andMedia Lock-Up - CRTC to announce its decision on wholesale high-speed access servicesWHEN: November 15, 2011Lock-up: 2:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.WHERE:CRTC Central Office1 Promenade du Portage, Les Terrasses de la ChaudièreCentral Building, Gatineau, QuebecOTTAWA-GATINEAU, Nov. 10, 2011 /CNW/ - On November 15, 2011, a media lock-up will be held from 2:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. at the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to announce the CRTC's decision on wholesale high-speed access services.Any parties interested in attending the lock-up are asked to contact Mireille Dion at mireille.dion@crtc.gc.ca by noon on November 14. Reporters will be required to sign a non-disclosure agreement upon arrival.No one will be permitted to leave the lock-up before 4:00 p.m. Cell phones, wireless handheld devices (e.g. Blackberries), pagers, etc. must be left with the CRTC staff in the room. Laptop owners must disable wireless capabilities prior to arriving at the CRTC. Telephone lines and Internet will be available at the CRTC at 4 p.m.The decision will be posted on the CRTC website at 4:00 p.m. at www.crtc.gc.caThe CRTCThe CRTC is an independent, public authority that regulates and supervises broadcasting and telecommunications in Canada.Reference documents:Role of CRTC in Internet Pricing? [PDF]Internet services at a glanceTelecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-77Telecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-77-1Telecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-77-2For further information:Media Relations: » support.crtc.gc.ca/CRTCS ··· x?lang=e Tel: 819-997-9403, Fax: 819-997-4245General Inquiries:Tel: 819-997-0313, TDD: 819-994-0423, Fax: 819-994-0218Toll-free # 1-877-249-CRTC (2782)



TSI Marc

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MaynardKrebs

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join:2009-06-17 MaynardKrebs Premium Member said by TSI Marc: I'll be there for sure! big day!



Bring your Louisville Slugger just in case.

bbhog

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Just had a look at all the tarrifs that are being covered tomorrow. I will definitely be looking to the experts here on the board to translate all the legal mumbo jumbo summarize all the important points! I'm guessing it will be a couple days before everyone knows what it all means.



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It'll be like this »www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· ASSqP0h4

XD.

A big thank you to The Kool Aid Man.It ain't Bell's Kool Aid >:3 XD.A big thank you to The Kool Aid Man.It ain't Bell's Kool Aid >:3



Mike2009

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I have a bad feeling that the CRTC will generally sell us out.



Sure, they may throw a few bread crumbs our way in their feeble attempt to pacify, and may indeed be successful, some of us. But in the long run the majority will end up with the short end of the stick.



JunjiHiroma

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Renfrew, ON JunjiHiroma Member said by CliqueofOne: I have a bad feeling that the CRTC will generally sell us out.



Sure, they may throw a few bread crumbs our way in their feeble attempt to pacify, and may indeed be successful, some of us. But in the long run the majority will end up with the short end of the stick.

But in the end someone will file a R&V,then a petition to the GiC and voila ,another couple years of stalling.



CliqueofOne

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Brantford, ON CliqueofOne Member In the meantime, any viable improvements to the system comes to yet another standstill.



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Is anyone allowed to attend? As I've got the day off work tomorrow and am thinking of going.



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Hopefully good news come out of this. Disabling wi-fi on laptops seems kinda impossible though / pointless.



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Since then, a few things have happened. Bell submitted a new proposal, called Aggregated Volume Pricing, that is a sort of diet-UBB. Rather than charging smaller ISPs for each of their users, the new scheme would total up their usage instead. Indie ISPs have said that while AVP is not as crippling as UBB would have been to their business, its still not exactly desirable.



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Out west, UBB became a non-issue last spring when Shaw announced new plans with generous usage limits, which forced its main competitor Telus to match. The large Western ISPs added an interesting dimension to the debate  such large usage buckets completely negate the argument for UBB, which Bell and others have said is necessary to combat network congestion. If Shaw and Telus can give their customers so much usage without congesting their networks, why cant their eastern counterparts?



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On a related note, Bell also recently announced it was easing up on slowing down file-sharing by its customers. This throttling is another activity that is technically allowed by the CRTC, but which is hugely controversial and hated by many users. Many believe throttling is a violation of the regulators own net neutrality rules, yet the CRTC is doing nothing to stop it. As if to contrast Bells announcement, news also recently broke about how big Canadian ISPs  particularly Rogers  are some of the heaviest throttlers in the world.



Quote:

If the unlikely happens and the CRTC actually comes up with a solution that everyone can live with, thereby restoring relative harmony to the Canadian broadband environment, it will clear a major issue from the table and put even more pressure on the government to get some sort of digital/broadband strategy going. Either way, it looks like the buck is about to be passed to the Industry Minister. That means no more hiding in the shadows. a good readQuote:Since then, a few things have happened. Bell submitted a new proposal, called Aggregated Volume Pricing, that is a sort of diet-UBB. Rather than charging smaller ISPs for each of their users, the new scheme would total up their usage instead. Indie ISPs have said that while AVP is not as crippling as UBB would have been to their business, its still not exactly desirable.Quote:Out west, UBB became a non-issue last spring when Shaw announced new plans with generous usage limits, which forced its main competitor Telus to match. The large Western ISPs added an interesting dimension to the debate  such large usage buckets completely negate the argument for UBB, which Bell and others have said is necessary to combat network congestion. If Shaw and Telus can give their customers so much usage without congesting their networks, why cant their eastern counterparts?Quote:On a related note, Bell also recently announced it was easing up on slowing down file-sharing by its customers. This throttling is another activity that is technically allowed by the CRTC, but which is hugely controversial and hated by many users. Many believe throttling is a violation of the regulators own net neutrality rules, yet the CRTC is doing nothing to stop it. As if to contrast Bells announcement, news also recently broke about how big Canadian ISPs  particularly Rogers  are some of the heaviest throttlers in the world.Quote:If the unlikely happens and the CRTC actually comes up with a solution that everyone can live with, thereby restoring relative harmony to the Canadian broadband environment, it will clear a major issue from the table and put even more pressure on the government to get some sort of digital/broadband strategy going. Either way, it looks like the buck is about to be passed to the Industry Minister. That means no more hiding in the shadows.



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said by evil_gusgus: Hopefully good news come out of this. I fear once again the CRTC will side with the big Telcos $$ and screw the public their supposed to protect .....



DrZEUS

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I fear once again the CRTC will side with the big Telcos $$ and screw the public their supposed to protect ..... I dont blame you for your fears...I think we've all become accustomed to assuming position and expecting the worse...feeling helpless sucks.

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I'm getting sick of hearing about this bellshit. Bell is hell bent on getting it pushed through, and their puppet, Konrad Von Frankenstein is more than happy to do anything they say.



I have a feeling that once again, he will rule in their favor. Only question is, will the Industry Minister reverse the decision like he did last time?



Gimli

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l5a2o4 Gimli Premium Member Well, Von F'in-stien needs to do his future employer ( future / current / patsey ) one more favor before he leaves the CRTC and joins the ranks of the bell crooked elite.



I would love to remain optimistic, however if history has taught me anything, it is difficult to do so.



I hope the new Industry minister will grow a pair and stick with the original notion that Clement had, but we will have to wait and see.



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said by JC_: Is anyone allowed to attend? As I've got the day off work tomorrow and am thinking of going.

The deadline to register was yesterday at noon. Unless you're on the list you cannot attend. And I would say this type of event is torture, they lock you up for an hour with no internet access or electronic devices.

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said by evil_gusgus: Hopefully good news come out of this. Disabling wi-fi on laptops seems kinda impossible though / pointless.

I would suspect they also turn off their routers so good luck finding a wifi access point to use.



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Is today's decision the final verdict(I mean decisive one)? If Bell loses today will we be in a limbo again? Can Bell do anything if the verdict goes against them?

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It's time to bend over as the CRTC is about to f*ck us all up in the ass....



TwiztedZero

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We can just hope for the sake of Canadian Broadband, that the CRTC has their heads on straight this time around. We've been waiting for this 'announcement' quite long enough. I'd rather they rip the bandaid off lickity split, and get the pain over with soonest its gona be torture just waiting for 4:00 for the say so, to get out into the world.











But we don't want toanymore, it hurts, and the swelling never goes down. We really hope the CRTC doesn't try to sooth us with a sandpaper & lindseed mix cause we're allready angry enough as it is.We can just hope for the sake of Canadian Broadband, that the CRTC has their heads on straight this time around. We've been waiting for this 'announcement' quite long enough. I'd rather they rip the bandaid off lickity split, and get the pain over with soonest its gona be torture just waiting for 4:00 for the say so, to get out into the world.

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»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/home- ··· ueil.htm 1 minute until an answer. Start refreshing to be the first to read it!



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»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/home- ··· ueil.htm

LMAO we are going to bring their site down haha



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join:2003-05-24 damir52 Premium Member It loads so damn slow for me, "connecting, waiting" for 20-30 seconds now.

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There's a link in "Today's Releases" that is titled "CRTC Supports choice of Internet Services" but the link is broken. The title at least sounds promising...

*Edit - the link just started working » That could possible make them reverse their decision... All us heavy bandwidth hogs refreshing links and congesting the network! Shame on us!There's a link in "Today's Releases" that is titled "CRTC Supports choice of Internet Services" but the link is broken. The title at least sounds promising...*Edit - the link just started working » www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/com10 ··· 1115.htm



TheHeeyyy

@rogers.com TheHeeyyy Anon Hmm...not sure if this is good or bad news. Not very familiar with the jargon used lol.