Former Obama administration attorney general Eric Holder speculated this week on what would incentivize him to run for president.

Holder was asked in an interview with the New York Times about running for the highest office in the land. The reporter asked, “If you were gonna do it, why would you do it. If you didn’t do it, why would you not do it?”

Holder said “If I were gonna do it, I’d do it because I would have concluded that maybe I could unify the country… help unify the country.” Holder said he could also “advance” and “repair” the country as president. Holder said, “I had something to contribute, that would be the thing that would push me toward considering a run.”

Holder said that the strain on his family would be the reason he would not run for president. The former attorney general noted that his family would regularly be bothered by the news stories and hearings that surrounded his contentious helm at the AG position.

“To subject myself and my family to that again could be a negative,” Holder said.

Holder has speculated on a 2020 run in the past few months in various interviews.