On Monday’s television show, Glenn Beck aired an interview that he conducted with the Family Research Council’s Jerry Boykin when the two men were in Ohio last weekend campaigning for Ted Cruz. During the discussion, the two agreed that the election of either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton would mean that America has reached rock bottom and decided to commit national suicide.

After Beck complained that Christians are being mocked for believing, as he does, that Ted Cruz has been raised up by God for this moment, he and Boykin worried that America has not yet reached the point where it is willing to humble itself and ask God to save this nation.

“I’m a recovering alcoholic,” Beck said. “There was a time when I hit my bottom and I had to decide whether I was going to repeat my mother’s life, who committed suicide, or if I was going to live. My mother’s bottom was suicide. Some people don’t have a bottom. If we vote for Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, is our bottom suicide?”

“If we go down that road,” Boykin replied, “I don’t think the republic will survive.”