In histories of the Second World War, the Vatican has not fared well. Pope Pius XII has been condemned as “Hitler’s Pope ” and the Church castigated for not doing enough to avert war and save the victims of the Third Reich. Enter Mark Riebling’s new book, Church of Spies: The Pope’s Secret War Against Hitler. After years of painstaking research in the Vatican’s archives, Riebling has a different and heart-pounding story to tell of the Pope’s network of spies that fought to bring about Hitler’s downfall. In this podcast, WOTR’s Ryan Evans and Mark Stout (himself a veteran of the CIA) sits down with Riebling to chat about this amazing book that combines the rigor of history with the storytelling of a novel. His final verdict on Pius XII: “He wasn’t Hitler’s Pope, but he wasn’t Anne Frank’s Pope either.”

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