From: Martyr Dienekes

Sent: 2016-04-25 22:18:00

To: Internet Terrorists

TL;DR Shit happened only read if you are interested in N0OBZ history/Drama.

Ok for the people that were unable to attend the previous Corp. meeting.

All the N0OBZ members present were asked what their thoughts were regarding the relocation to Outer Ring and if they felt that we needed to start looking into alternatives to be our home.

The overwhelming consensus was that we stay with the alliance over the next month and try to help reinvigorate SMA so that it can start to grow again. After the month is up, we will look at where the alliance is at and reconsider the options at that time hopefully with SMA being on the up again.

While this sounds like we had a calm meeting it was fairly heated discussion with people raising their main concerns over alliance leadership with main concerns being:

Lack of a direction

Alliance isn't publishing its goals if it indeed has any, simple non-specific goals should be told to alliance

Doctrines

Small stuff will not cut it against small gang dual/triple ancillary tank bling fit ships that the enemy fly around here.

PAPs

Bring back paps even though the pap is no longer required it helps with metrics (knowing how many of a corp are active fighting) and also with competition between members.

Lack of research into the area before we moved

Basically dropping a few hundred monkeys into a area where the locals have been mining moons for 4 years unopposed means we are up against a entrenched enemy with very deep pockets, the decision was apparently based on 1 hours Intel and "because we lived there before", while this is not the smartest decision but its the hand we have been dealt, so we will have to deal with it.

The Grass isnt greener

If we did move to another alliance things may not be any better. options available from invites we have received include most of the fountain alliances, MoA, CO2, Goons and my personal choice Bastion. (I would also consider joining the true GoonSwarm [OHGOD] led by Darius (not the CONDI fake one owned by Mittani) however as far as I am aware, I am the only true goon in corp (i paid my 10 dollar bond), so I dont think we could qualify as everyone needs a something awful paid account)

Debt of Gratitude

N0OBZ chequered past bit us in the ass 2 years ago when we disbanded Darkspawn alliance (Blue to NC.) and stole a titan. Nobody would accept our corp and we were drifting without an alliance and some very upset enemies (NC. rape caged our station for 10 days straight DT to DT) until finally we were offered us a place in SMA.

Personally I believe we have repaid that debt a thousand times over especially considering what happened to us over the last 27 months. so I feel this is a mute point.

But for those not aware: (please bare in mind this is my side/version of events)

Drama Time

* As a PvP corp we were told/asked to base from E-9ORY and act as a buffer between SMA and MoA in ROIR-Y, this was good for our US TZ players - death for our EU TZ players.

* We built the station in C-OK0R but Alliance rules only gave us 6 months ownership after which we had to use PAP points to keep it.

* Widget left us creating MINNI3 and took the majority of our US TZ with her and a large part of our logistics and titan pilots (over 80 players), Their choice ultimately, but still devastating to N0OBZ.

* Elsemus joined Skyteam and unfortunately was away from the corp for long periods due to work loads. This allowed Paul to feed his habit and lead to a lot of corp inactivity. This was not Elsemus's fault, it was just too much work for 1 person and some afk directors.

* We upgraded FIO1-8 from a level 1 reprocessing station to level 3! Again at the cost of our corp and members. Soon after SMA decided all stations should be owned by EXPCS and took it from us after we upgraded it without recouping the majority of our costs.

* Paul woods was discovered skimming moon goo to feed his gambling and got kicked without our corp been shown any evidence at first, this caused a few good people to leave(approx 10), (evidence was later given, but too late for Corp as we lost players over it)

* We were ordered to kick Tolandruth Rahl (a IWI banker) by River for "selling APIs" - no evidence was provided that I saw and Tol was allowed to join Bastion despite the fact this should have been a blacklist offence ***

* Winet wanted an Oceanic Timezone Corp of his own and poached 12 of our AU TZ guys causing most of our hardcore EU PvPers to leave with Dirk Boos as they had flown together for years.

I have tried to be impartial about the above incidents as bias would only sway opinion negatively, All I wanted to do was dispel the myth that N0OBZ owes SMA. While it was true "a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away" aka 2 1/4 years ago in Wicked Creek - 23,130 Kills since we joined suggests the relationship has been beneficial to both parties (only applied anarchy has a better record).

So now we are a week after the above meeting and some of the points have been adressed, however daily log in numbers have remained steady for us, unfortunately this doesnt mean anything as people are logging in to see what's happening, jumping into TS then logging out of game.

We have gone from having 22 mains online on a evening to 4 people on a Sunday night!!!! (traditionally best night for online users). This shows we have a big problem that needs addressing at tuesdays meeting.

River raised the point about EU participation in fleets not being great. I will take a bit of the blame for this as I have still been moving Jump freighters and things out of fade, meaning I havent been out in 4C for that long. That being said I'm not an FC so as we have no EU FC's i would still be ship spinning with you.

I hope this has covered some corp history / aspects of our corp that gets washed over sometimes...

Fly Safe

Martyr

*** Tol had trillions of isk in-game plus a sizable amount left on his IWI account, selling API's would not be worthwhile for him as it would be worth pocket change to him. The API's were apparently scraped by Eep and Cyber - nothing to do with Tol. Just bad security on our website/forums. So he was guilty by association, which to be honest, I would have kicked him too if i were River and had the alliance security to consider.

Despite this story being relatively unknown, it is possibly the last antagonisation required by SMA to start the IWI ball rolling and was a likely a catalyst for World War Bee as Eep Eep and Tol (plus 2 others i think Lenny Karvitz, was one) moved their Combined IWI isk into a holding corporation (this was separate from any assets they had before the IWI RMT accusations and kept in a corp wallet as under the EULA they believed this wouldnt be confiscated if any of them were banned). Lenny then started hiring Mercs for the war, the rest we lived through.