Novelist Stephen King went on National Public Radio, of all places, and spoke openly about God and how he believed everything about the universe suggests it is a product of intelligent design.

Speaking to NPR on May 29, King said he chooses to believe in God and that there was no “downside to that.”

He said those who claim there is “no evidence of God” miss “the stars in the sky” and are “missing the sunrises and sunsets” and “the fact that bees pollinate all these crops and keep us alive and the way that everything seems to work together.”

“Everything is sort of built in a way that to me suggests intelligent design,” King said.

He also noted that, at the same time, there are also other things that occur in life that would lead one to say, “Well, if this is God’s plan, it’s very peculiar.”