“Clearly, we are not prepared, and Trump only exacerbates the crisis. When we spend twice as much per capita on health care as any other nation, one might expect that we would have enough doctors all over this country. One might expect that we would have affordable prescription drugs. One might expect that we are preparing effectively for a pandemic, that we were ready with the ventilators, with the I.C.U.s, with the test kits that we need. We are not. And bottom line here is, in terms of Medicare for all, despite what the vice president is saying, what the experts tell us is that one of the reasons that we are unprepared and have been unprepared is we don’t have a system.” “That has nothing to do when you’re in a national crisis. The national crisis says, we’re responding, it’s all free, you don’t have to pay for a thing. That has nothing to do with whether or not you have an insurance policy. This is a crisis. We’re at war with a virus. We’re at war with a virus. It has nothing to do with co-pays or anything. We just pass a law saying that you do not have to pay for any of this, period.” “That’s not true. As a matter of fact, that’s not true. That law has enormous loopholes. I understand that Nancy Pelosi did her best, Republicans prevented it.” “No, I’m, I’m talk—” “What you’re, what you’re talking about, Joe, here is enormous loopholes within that, in fact, it is not necessarily covering treatment for all people in America, and that people are going to be stuck with a bill.” “This is a crisis. This is like we are being attacked from abroad. This is something that is of great consequence. This is like a war. And in a war, you do whatever is needed to be done to take care of your people.”