Jacky_ Profile Blog Joined March 2011 Korea (South) 47 Posts #1



Through the 3.10.1 patch, Cactus Valley has been modified. But there are some problems. First, look at the gif picture comparing the previous version to the current version of Cactus Valley.

+ Show Spoiler +



Through the 3.10.1 patch,has been modified. But there are some problems. First, look at the gif picture comparing the previous version to the current version of Cactus Valley. Picture 1 : + Show Spoiler +

The width of the paths are different from the other because of the changed the position of expansions. In this case, the position of 3, 6, 9, 12 o'clock may be disadvantageous in fighting troops because of the narrow path. I think it would be more effective if it is changed the terrain behind the resources.



The width of the paths are different from the other because of the changed the position of expansions. In this case, the position of 3, 6, 9, 12 o'clock may be disadvantageous in fighting troops because of the narrow path. I think it would be more effective if it is changed the terrain behind the resources. Picture 2 : + Show Spoiler +

The places where the textures are modified are too awkward. Texture work in the Cactus Valley is not symmetric, but it seems to have occurred by modifying the texture with symmetry.





The reason I write this is because I was very disappointed with a few things. If dev team modifies the ladder maps used by people around the world, I think it should be more complete.



Of course, it's good to be quick to deal with the Liberator issues in the Cactus Valley, but it's disappointing that simply moving the expansion location.



I hope to make a more appropriate revision. The places where the textures are modified are too awkward. Texture work in the Cactus Valley is not symmetric, but it seems to have occurred by modifying the texture with symmetry.The reason I write this is because I was very disappointed with a few things. If dev team modifies the ladder maps used by people around the world, I think it should be more complete.Of course, it's good to be quick to deal with the Liberator issues in the Cactus Valley, but it's disappointing that simply moving the expansion location.I hope to make a more appropriate revision. Jacky || Starcraft2 Official Map Designer || Master of JACKMADE || jackmade.tistory.com/ || twitter.com/JackSolute

InfCereal Profile Joined December 2011 Canada 1555 Posts #2 Oh wow.



Looking at the new base positions, there's going to be absolutely zero room to move once a base is down, and those textures are absolutely atrocious. I wonder how they look in game. Cereal :: AllThingsZerg.com :: SC2Overwatch.com

Twine Profile Joined June 2012 France 246 Posts #3 That, plus the fps lock/drops issues, it really feels like blizzard want to rush their patches and don't care that much ...

Not sure if I'm the only one feeling that way

#1 Bomber fan | Jin Air best KT

Meavis Profile Blog Joined September 2011 Netherlands 1296 Posts #4 here we go again, all aboard the drama train Ex organizer of Starcraft Mapmaking Association, currently retired.

todespolka Profile Joined November 2012 221 Posts Last Edited: 2017-02-01 12:49:41 #5 The textures are really not a problem. The space behind the expansions helps to defend against liberators (if it is not a cliff).



The path is really not an issue, there is enough space and you can attack from three sides. Also it helps protoss and terran build a wall or cover the space.



It would be nice for a change, if we play some games on the new map before we complain. If problems occur, blizzard will fix it as usual.

Turi Profile Joined November 2011 Germany 86 Posts #6 Blizzard never had any quality control for maps and never will get some.



The new base location makes holding this base close to impossible if your opponent spawns counter clockwise or opposite. If the base is placed, your opponent only need to hold the two very small choke-points close to his base while hes harassing the base. two liberators can easily prevent any army movement along this route. Or three(?) force fields. It is really awkward.

207aicila Profile Joined January 2015 1236 Posts Last Edited: 2017-02-02 15:59:00 #7 On February 01 2017 21:40 Meavis wrote:

here we go again, all aboard the drama train



Waah no one should ever criticize Blizzard for any of their shortcomings Waaah Waah no one should ever criticize Blizzard for any of their shortcomings Waaah mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''

NewSunshine Profile Joined July 2011 United States 4440 Posts Last Edited: 2017-02-02 19:38:22 #8 On February 03 2017 00:15 Turi wrote:

Blizzard never had any quality control for maps and never will get some.



The new base location makes holding this base close to impossible if your opponent spawns counter clockwise or opposite. If the base is placed, your opponent only need to hold the two very small choke-points close to his base while hes harassing the base. two liberators can easily prevent any army movement along this route. Or three(?) force fields. It is really awkward.

I tried making a stink when they did the same thing to my map Galactic Process, hoping they would see what my problem was with how they handled it, and try to improve their methods, for future instances of changing a community map. The response I got was very reasonable, and in the end promised more communication between Blizzard and the mapmakers going forward. A change like what was done here looks like something they did quickly in response to a problem, which is fine, but I think it should still be followed up by having the mapmaker, Ferisii, go over it and refine the map to both his and Blizzard's liking.



If they leave the map as-is without cleaning it up and making it more presentable, that would tell me they're not listening. And the change they made to the expansion addresses one problem, but introduces another, the attacker's advantage on that expansion is just too big now, that shouldn't have made it through. It introduces what's probably an even bigger imbalance in close spawn positions. I tried making a stink when they did the same thing to my map Galactic Process, hoping they would see what my problem was with how they handled it, and try to improve their methods, for future instances of changing a community map. The response I got was very reasonable, and in the end promised more communication between Blizzard and the mapmakers going forward. A change like what was done here looks like something they did quickly in response to a problem, which is fine, but I think it should still be followed up by having the mapmaker, Ferisii, go over it and refine the map to both his and Blizzard's liking.If they leave the map as-is without cleaning it up and making it more presentable, that would tell me they're not listening. And the change they made to the expansion addresses one problem, but introduces another, the attacker's advantage on that expansion is just too big now, that shouldn't have made it through. It introduces what's probably an even bigger imbalance in close spawn positions. "If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale

SwiftRH Profile Joined August 2013 United States 105 Posts #9 buff protoss! Man MODE!

Superouman Profile Blog Joined August 2007 France 2152 Posts #10 those random texture circles xD Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude

Aggression1 Profile Joined July 2014 Denmark 16 Posts Last Edited: 2017-02-02 21:35:58 #11 It really does feel as if the map department at Blizzard is just one guy who doesn't actually care.

Elentos Profile Blog Joined February 2015 52727 Posts #12 I don't get... like... It's one thing to fix the map to account for liberators. But what's with those texture changes? Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

DrDevice Profile Joined December 2010 Canada 130 Posts #13 On February 03 2017 06:45 Elentos wrote:

I don't get... like... It's one thing to fix the map to account for liberators. But what's with those texture changes?

Looks like a 12 year old who made their first map and is so excited to share it they don't realize it's shit Looks like a 12 year old who made their first map and is so excited to share it they don't realize it's shit

Uvantak Profile Blog Joined June 2011 Uruguay 1380 Posts #14 Thanks for the work Jacky, hopefully they fix it in time @Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.

ilikeredheads Profile Joined August 2011 Canada 1831 Posts #15 lol those random circles. It's like some dude went to photoshop and randomly dabbed some colours with the brush tool.



Blizzard are never good with maps, hardly a surprise.

IIEclipseII Profile Joined February 2016 Germany 128 Posts Last Edited: 2017-02-03 11:33:30 #16 well done jacky

Dangermousecatdog Profile Joined December 2010 United Kingdom 6246 Posts #17 Those random removed texture circles. Looks awful. Makes me wonder why the mapmaker did it. But judging from the atrocious state of blizzard mapmaking and blizzard's complete lack of care about their maps since forever, it's probably some exploited intern.

blunderfulguy Profile Blog Joined April 2016 United States 1376 Posts #19 Those droplets all over the map happened to me when trying to rush remaking a map I lost after a hard drive failure. I don't know exactly why the texture spattering (random dots/circles everywhere) happened but it was at some point between re-texturing the map after changing the symmetry and moving geysers and mineral lines with symmetry, but in my case it looked far worse than it does here. If it's from a similar bug I'd guess they went back over most of the textures but missed the dots still there? I ended up painting my map over completely several times and still missed some spots before discarding the whole thing but never really asked about it, I figured I just clicked a wrong setting and mussed it all up myself. Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.

geokilla Profile Joined May 2011 Canada 7527 Posts #20 On February 08 2017 04:29 pres.sure wrote:

Blizzard listend: Blizzard listend: Cactus Valley LE Improvements



That was quick... I wonder what made them make those changes in the first place. That was quick... I wonder what made them make those changes in the first place.

1 2 Next All