Shunning the single‐track mindedness of prepared text, the stars of the first day were two engaging critics who invited audience partici pation and spoke thoughts directly from their minds— Pauline Kael, film critic of The New Yorker, and Leslie Fiedler, valedictorian of the arts, whose next book is to be entitled “What Was Liter ature?”

Prof. John Seelye, moder ator of the session in Imperial B of the Americana Hotel, be gan by saying that the two speakers Seemed to fear hav ing nothing to say. “I real ized,” he noted, “that if everyone who had nothing to say didn't, there would be no Modern Language Associa tion.” He invited the two ex perts on film to say enduring things about “ephemera or, in a word, trash.”

Miss Kael suggested that film trash was here to stay. “It is not disposable,” she warned.

Seeing a conservative Su preme Court emerging, Miss Kael suggested that movie‐ makers were preparing for the final judgment by clean ing up sex and replacing it with violence.

“It's a strange reflection of the Vietnam war that we now think we're a brutal peo ple so why shouldn't we reflect it on the screen?” she said.

“You can't have violence without eroticism,” rejoined Professor Fiedler, who teaches at the State Univer sity of New York at Buffalo. “And, as our movies have shown, you can't have eroticism without violence.”