Belisarius Profile Joined November 2010 Australia 3338 Posts Last Edited: 2016-10-25 09:56:04 #6721 I'm not a fan of depending on shared tangoes in these guides.



The extra ggs make such a small difference when people can barely lasthit anyway. Just buy your own damn regen, 2ks.

Birdie Profile Joined August 2007 New Zealand 1895 Posts #6722 I can't remember the last game I didn't get pooled tangos as mid, maybe 2k and below don't though. Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!

Logo Profile Joined April 2010 United States 4568 Posts #6723 At ~3.5k I'd see something like 50/50 of people asking for shared tangos and getting it and either not asking or not getting them.



I don't think it's worth capturing in the guide except maybe as guide text somewhere for that small group of people who know to pool tangos, but don't know what to spend the extra gold on. Even then like the worst case scenario is they don't spend the gold they save and get their bottle or whatever they build first slightly earlier. Logo

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-01 16:28:15 #6724 Clockwerk

Added Tranquil Boots

Moved Bottle to Early Game

Moved Magic Wand to Core Items

Removed Power Treads



Shadow Shaman (Support)

New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Ether Shock 2. Shackles 3. Hex)

Moved Aether Lens to Situational Items



Tinker

Moved Dagon - Level 5 to Core Items

Removed Bloodstone



Lifestealer (Core)

Lifestealer (Jungle)

Added Iron Branch to Starting Items

Added Iron Branch to Starting Items

Added Blightstone to Early Game

Added Bloodthron to Extension Items

Moved Quelling Blade to Starting Items

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Daedalus



Juggernaut

Added Yasha to Core Items

Added Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core Items

Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items

Moved Battlefury to Situational Items

Removed Magic Wand



Abaddon

Added Urn of Shadows to Core Items (Support)

Added Echo Sabre to Core Items (Offlane)

Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items

Moved Sange & Yasha to Extension Items

Removed Magic Wand



Outworld Devourer

New Skill Build: W E W E W E W Q R E R Q Q Q R (1. Astral Imprisonment 2. Essence Aura 3. Arcane Orb)



Warlock (Core)

New Skill Build: W Stats W Q W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Shadow Word 2. Fatal Bonds 3. Upheaval)



Warlock (Support)

New Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W E Q Q R E E E R (1. Shadow Word 2. Fatal Bonds 3. Upheaval)



Kunkka (Core)

New Skill Build: W Q W E W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Tidebringer 2. X Marks the Spot 3. Torrent)

Created New Tab: "Early Game"

Moved Daedalus to Core Items

Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items

Removed Gauntlet of Strength

Removed Magic Wand

Removed Shadow Blade



Kunkka (Support)

New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R E Q E W R W W W R (1. Torrent 2. X Marks the Spot 3. Tidebringer)



Morphling

New Skill Build: E Q Q E Q E Q E R W R W W W R (1. Waveform 2. Morph 3. Adaptive Strike)

Added Circlet of Nobility to Starting Items

Added Wraith Band to Early Game

Added Hurricane Pike to Extension Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Removed Ring of Basilius

Removed Ring of Protection

Removed Satanic



Drow Ranger

New Skill Build: E Q E Q W R E E W W R W Q Q (1. Precision Aura 2. Gust 3. Frost Arrows)

Added Shadow Blade to Core Items



Omniknight

Moved Magic Wand to Core Items

Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items



Luna

New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Lucent Beam 2. Moon Glaive 3. Lunar Blessing)

Moved Magic Wand to Early Game

Moved Power Treads to Early Game

Moved Helm of the Dominator to Core Items

Moved Hurricane Pike to Extension Items

Removed Wraith Band

Removed Boots of Speed



Underlord (Support)

Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items

Removed Force Staff



Underlord (Offlane)

New Skill Build: E W Q Q Q W Q R W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)

Added Boots of Speed to Early Game

Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game

Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items

Removed Iron Talon

Removed Force Staff



Sniper (Core/Mid)

New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Shrapnel 2. Take Aim 3. Headshot)

Added Shadow Blade to Core Items

Added Silver Edge to Situational Items

Moved Manta Style to Extension Items

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Iron Branch x2



Sniper (Core/Safe)

Added Wraith Band to Starting Items

Added Shadow Blade to Core Items

Added Silver Edge to Situational Items

Moved Manta Style to Extension Items

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Iron Branch x2



Keeper of the Light

New Skill Build: W E E Q E Q E R Q Q W W W R R (1 Chakra Magic 2 Illuminate 3 Mana Leak)

Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items

Moved Mekansm to Situational Items

Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items



Shadow Fiend

Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items



Broodmother

Added Sage's Mask to Starting Items

Removed Quelling Blade

Removed Stout Shield



Invoker (Quas/Exort)

New Skill Build: E Q E Q E Q E Q W E R E E R W R W W W W W Q Q Q R (1.Exort 2. Wex. 3. Quas)

Added Ring of Basilius to Early Game

Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items

Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items

Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items

Removed Magic Wand



Night Stalker

New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q E R Q E E R W W W R (1. Void 2. Hunter in the Night 3. Crippling Fear)



Phantom Assassin

Added Blightstone to Core Items



Bloodseeker (Jungle)

Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items

Removed Heaven's Halberd



Legion Commander (Core)

New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q E W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage)

New Skill Build: E W E Q Q R Q Q W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage)

Added Phase Boots to Core Items

Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items

Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items

Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items

Removed Bottle

Removed Power Treads

Removed Vladmir's Offering

Removed Drum of Endurance

Removed Sange & Yasha



Legion Commander (Jungle)

New Skill Build: E W E Q Q R Q Q W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage)

Added Phase Boots to Core Items

Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items

Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items

Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items

Removed Power Treads

Removed Vladmir's Offering

Removed Drum of Endurance

Removed Sange & Yasha



Medusa

New Skill Build: W E W E W R W Q Q Q Q E E R R (1. Mystic Snake 2. Split Shot 3. Mana Shield)

Created New Tab: "Early Game"

Added Bottle to 'Early Game'

Added Boots of Speed to 'Early Game'

Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items

Added Mjollnir to Extension Items

Moved Ring of Aquila to 'Early Game'

Moved Linken's Sphere to Core Items

Moved Eye of Skadi to Extension Items

Removed Magic Wand

Removed Monkey King Bar



Silencer (Core)

Added Drum of Endurance to Core Items

Moved Hurricane Pike to Core Items

Moved Veil of Discord to Extension Items

Removed Force Staff

Removed Aghanim's Scepter

Removed Refresher Orb



Silencer (Support)

New Skill Build: W Q E E E R E W W W R Q Q Q (1. Last Word 2. Arcane Curse 3. Glaives of Wisdom)

Added Animal Courier to Starting Items

Added Observer Ward to Starting Items

Added Wind Lace to Starting Items

Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items

Added Force Staff to Extension Items

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Clarity

Removed Iron Branch

Removed Rod of Atos

Removed Hurricane Pike

Removed Assault Cuirass

Removed Refresher Orb



Spectre

Created New Tab: "Luxury Items"

Added Tango to Starting Items

Added Abyssal Blade to "Luxury Items"

Added Refresher Orb to "Luxury Items"

Added Boots of Travel to "Luxury Items"

Moved Phase Boots to Early Game

Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items

Removed Healing Salve



Slark (Core/Safe)

Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game

Added Iron Talon to Core Items

Moved Silver Edge to Core Items

Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items

Removed Iron Branch x2

Removed Wraith Band

Removed Quelling Blade



Slark (Core/Mid)

Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items

Added Iron Branch to Starting Items

Moved Silver Edge to Core Items

Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items

Removed Enchanted Mango

Removed Faerie Fire

Removed Stout Shield

Removed Wraith Band

Removed Quelling Blade







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The front page of this topic has also been completely revamped and spaced between two posts to reduce loading Added Tranquil BootsMoved Bottle to Early GameMoved Magic Wand to Core ItemsRemoved Power TreadsShadow Shaman (Support)New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Ether Shock 2. Shackles 3. Hex)Moved Aether Lens to Situational ItemsMoved Dagon - Level 5 to Core ItemsRemoved BloodstoneAdded Iron Branch to Starting ItemsAdded Iron Branch to Starting ItemsAdded Blightstone to Early GameAdded Bloodthron to Extension ItemsMoved Quelling Blade to Starting ItemsRemoved Healing SalveRemoved DaedalusAdded Yasha to Core ItemsAdded Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core ItemsAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsMoved Blink Dagger to Core ItemsMoved Battlefury to Situational ItemsRemoved Magic WandAdded Urn of Shadows to Core Items (Support)Added Echo Sabre to Core Items (Offlane)Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational ItemsMoved Sange & Yasha to Extension ItemsRemoved Magic WandNew Skill Build: W E W E W E W Q R E R Q Q Q R (1. Astral Imprisonment 2. Essence Aura 3. Arcane Orb)New Skill Build: W Stats W Q W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Shadow Word 2. Fatal Bonds 3. Upheaval)New Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W E Q Q R E E E R (1. Shadow Word 2. Fatal Bonds 3. Upheaval)New Skill Build: W Q W E W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Tidebringer 2. X Marks the Spot 3. Torrent)Created New Tab: "Early Game"Moved Daedalus to Core ItemsMoved Blink Dagger to Core ItemsRemoved Gauntlet of StrengthRemoved Magic WandRemoved Shadow BladeNew Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R E Q E W R W W W R (1. Torrent 2. X Marks the Spot 3. Tidebringer)New Skill Build: E Q Q E Q E Q E R W R W W W R (1. Waveform 2. Morph 3. Adaptive Strike)Added Circlet of Nobility to Starting ItemsAdded Wraith Band to Early GameAdded Hurricane Pike to Extension ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsRemoved Ring of BasiliusRemoved Ring of ProtectionRemoved SatanicNew Skill Build: E Q E Q W R E E W W R W Q Q (1. Precision Aura 2. Gust 3. Frost Arrows)Added Shadow Blade to Core ItemsMoved Magic Wand to Core ItemsMoved Pipe of Insight to Extension ItemsNew Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Lucent Beam 2. Moon Glaive 3. Lunar Blessing)Moved Magic Wand to Early GameMoved Power Treads to Early GameMoved Helm of the Dominator to Core ItemsMoved Hurricane Pike to Extension ItemsRemoved Wraith BandRemoved Boots of SpeedAdded Scythe of Vyse to Extension ItemsRemoved Force StaffNew Skill Build: E W Q Q Q W Q R W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)Added Boots of Speed to Early GameAdded Poor Man's Shield to Early GameAdded Scythe of Vyse to Extension ItemsRemoved Iron TalonRemoved Force StaffNew Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Shrapnel 2. Take Aim 3. Headshot)Added Shadow Blade to Core ItemsAdded Silver Edge to Situational ItemsMoved Manta Style to Extension ItemsRemoved Healing SalveRemoved Iron Branch x2Added Wraith Band to Starting ItemsAdded Shadow Blade to Core ItemsAdded Silver Edge to Situational ItemsMoved Manta Style to Extension ItemsRemoved Healing SalveRemoved Iron Branch x2New Skill Build: W E E Q E Q E R Q Q W W W R R (1 Chakra Magic 2 Illuminate 3 Mana Leak)Added Lotus Orb to Situational ItemsMoved Mekansm to Situational ItemsMoved Pipe of Insight to Extension ItemsAdded Hurricane Pike to Situational ItemsAdded Sage's Mask to Starting ItemsRemoved Quelling BladeRemoved Stout ShieldNew Skill Build: E Q E Q E Q E Q W E R E E R W R W W W W W Q Q Q R (1.Exort 2. Wex. 3. Quas)Added Ring of Basilius to Early GameAdded Shiva's Guard to Extension ItemsMoved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core ItemsMoved Drum of Endurance to Situational ItemsRemoved Magic WandNew Skill Build: Q E Q W Q E R Q E E R W W W R (1. Void 2. Hunter in the Night 3. Crippling Fear)Added Blightstone to Core ItemsAdded Hand of Midas to Situational ItemsRemoved Heaven's HalberdNew Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q E W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage)New Skill Build: E W E Q Q R Q Q W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage)Added Phase Boots to Core ItemsAdded Heaven's Halberd to Situational ItemsAdded Lotus Orb to Situational ItemsAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational ItemsRemoved BottleRemoved Power TreadsRemoved Vladmir's OfferingRemoved Drum of EnduranceRemoved Sange & YashaNew Skill Build: E W E Q Q R Q Q W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage)Added Phase Boots to Core ItemsAdded Heaven's Halberd to Situational ItemsAdded Lotus Orb to Situational ItemsAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational ItemsRemoved Power TreadsRemoved Vladmir's OfferingRemoved Drum of EnduranceRemoved Sange & YashaNew Skill Build: W E W E W R W Q Q Q Q E E R R (1. Mystic Snake 2. Split Shot 3. Mana Shield)Created New Tab: "Early Game"Added Bottle to 'Early Game'Added Boots of Speed to 'Early Game'Added Hurricane Pike to Situational ItemsAdded Mjollnir to Extension ItemsMoved Ring of Aquila to 'Early Game'Moved Linken's Sphere to Core ItemsMoved Eye of Skadi to Extension ItemsRemoved Magic WandRemoved Monkey King BarAdded Drum of Endurance to Core ItemsMoved Hurricane Pike to Core ItemsMoved Veil of Discord to Extension ItemsRemoved Force StaffRemoved Aghanim's ScepterRemoved Refresher OrbNew Skill Build: W Q E E E R E W W W R Q Q Q (1. Last Word 2. Arcane Curse 3. Glaives of Wisdom)Added Animal Courier to Starting ItemsAdded Observer Ward to Starting ItemsAdded Wind Lace to Starting ItemsAdded Ghost Scepter to Situational ItemsAdded Force Staff to Extension ItemsRemoved Healing SalveRemoved ClarityRemoved Iron BranchRemoved Rod of AtosRemoved Hurricane PikeRemoved Assault CuirassRemoved Refresher OrbCreated New Tab: "Luxury Items"Added Tango to Starting ItemsAdded Abyssal Blade to "Luxury Items"Added Refresher Orb to "Luxury Items"Added Boots of Travel to "Luxury Items"Moved Phase Boots to Early GameMoved Blade Mail to Situational ItemsRemoved Healing SalveAdded Poor Man's Shield to Early GameAdded Iron Talon to Core ItemsMoved Silver Edge to Core ItemsMoved Black King Bar to Extension ItemsRemoved Iron Branch x2Removed Wraith BandRemoved Quelling BladeAdded Poor Man's Shield to Starting ItemsAdded Iron Branch to Starting ItemsMoved Silver Edge to Core ItemsMoved Black King Bar to Extension ItemsRemoved Enchanted MangoRemoved Faerie FireRemoved Stout ShieldRemoved Wraith BandRemoved Quelling Blade https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2016-10-27 19:52:57 #6725 . https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Birdie Profile Joined August 2007 New Zealand 1895 Posts #6726 I'm sure Shadow Blade shouldn't be core on Sniper and Hurricane Pike should be. Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #6727 On October 28 2016 06:20 Birdie wrote:

I'm sure Shadow Blade shouldn't be core on Sniper and Hurricane Pike should be.



In competitive matches where the line-ups are built around Sniper, correct. Though Shadow Blade is bought as well (just after H. Pike).



In public matches, Shadow Blade comes a lot earlier than H. Pike. In competitive matches where the line-ups are built around Sniper, correct. Though Shadow Blade is bought as well (just after H. Pike).In public matches, Shadow Blade comes a lot earlier than H. Pike. https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #6728 Publishing Changes https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-06 17:37:30 #6729 Windranger (Core/Mid)

Windranger (Core/Safe)

Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items

Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items

Removed Force Staff



Lina (Core)

Added Phase Boots to Core Items

Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items

Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items

Removed Arcane Boots

Removed Refresher Orb

Removed Daedalus

Removed Mjolnnir

Removed Eye of Skadi



Lina (Support)

Added Wind Lace to Starting Items

Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items

Moved Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items

Removed Observer Ward

Removed Iron Branch

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Refresher Orb

Removed Daedalus



Alchemst (Core/Safe)

New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Acid Spray 2. Unstable Concoction 3. Greevil's Greed)

Created New Tab: "Early Game"

Added Tango to Starting Items

Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"

Added Soul Ring to "Early Game"

Added Medallion of Courage to Core Items

Added Shadow Blade to Core Items

Added Blade Mail to Situational Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Added Mjollnir to Extension Items

Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items

Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items

Moved Healing Salve to "Early Game"

Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational Items

Removed Iron Branch x2

Removed Bottle

Removed Hand of Midas

Removed Blink Dagger

Removed Skull Basher



Troll Warlord (Core/Safe)

New Skill Build: Q W E Q E E E R Q Q R W W W R (1. Berserker's Rage 2. Fervor 3. Whirling Axes)

Created New Tab: "Situational Items"

Added Tango to Starting Items

Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game

Added Blink Dagger to "Situational Items"

Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to "Situational Items"

Added Hurricane Pike to "Situational Items"

Added Manta Style to "Situational Items"

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items

Moved Ring of Aquila to Core Items

Removed Faerie Fire

Removed Iron Branch x2

Removed Quelling Blade

Removed Wraith Band

Removed Butterfly



Troll Warlord (Core/Mid)

New Skill Build: Q W W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Whirling Axes 2. Berserker's Rage 3. Fervor)

Created New Tab: "Situational Items"

Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items

Added Tango to Starting Items

Added Shadow Blade to Core Items

Added Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core Items

Added Silver Edge to Situational Items

Added Hurricane Pike to "Situational Items"

Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items

Moved Helm of the Dominator to Early Game

Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational Items

Removed Stout Shield

Removed Faerie Fire

Removed Iron Branch x2

Removed Quelling Blade

Removed Ring of Aquila

Removed Butterfly



Skywrath Mage (Core)

Added Ethereal Blade to Extension Items

Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items

Moved Veil of Discord to Core Items

Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items

Moved Aether Lens to Situational Items

Moved Force Staff to Extension Items

Removed Arcane Boots

Removed Magic Wand

Remove Bloodstone



Bristleback

Created New Tab: "Early Game"

Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"

Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items

Added Boots of Travel to Situational Items

Added Heart of Tarrasque to Extension Items

Moved Ring of Basilius to "Early Game"

Moved Magic Wand to "Early Game"

Moved Vanguard to "Early Game"

Moved Crimson Guard to Core Items

Moved Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items

Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items

Moved Sange & Yasha to Extension Items



Naga Siren (Core)

New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R Q Q E W R W W W R (1. Rip Tide 2, Mirror Image 3. Ensnare)

Added Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core Items

Added Boots of Travel - Level 2 to Extension Items

Moved Iron Talon to Early Game

Moved Manta Style to Core Items



Meepo

New Skill Build: W Q R W W E W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Poof 2. Geostrike 3. Earthbind)

Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items

Added Dragon Lance to Core Items

Moved Hurricane Pike to Situational Items

Removed Iron Branch

Removed Mekansm

Removed Heart of Tarrasque



Batrider

New Skill Build: Q E Q E E R E W W W R W Q Q R (1. Firefly 2. Flamebreak 3. Sticky Napalm)

Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items

Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items

Removed Wind Lace



Huskar

Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items

Removed Daedalus



Mirana

New Skill Build: W E Q Q Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Starstorm 2. Leap 3. Sacred Arrow)

Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items

Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items

Moved Linken's Sphere to Situational Items

Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items

Removed Hand of Midas

Removed Magic Wand

Removed Hand of Midas

Removed Drum of Endurance

Removed Black King Bar

Removed Shiva's Guard



IO

New Skill Build: Q E W W W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Spirits 2. Overcharge 3. Tether)

Added Arcane Boots to Core Items

Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items

Removed Drum of Endurance

Removed Boots of Travel



Nature's Prophet

Added Iron Talon to Starting Items

Added Dragon Lance to Core Items

Moved Shadow Blade to Situational Items

Removed Iron Branch x3

Removed Faerie Fire x2

Removed Ring of Protection

Removed Clarity

Removed Silver Edge



Pugna

Added Observer Ward to Starting Items

Added Wind Lace to Starting Items

Added Arcane Boots to Core Items

Added Blink Dagger to Extension Items

Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items

Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items

Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items

Moved Force Staff to Extension Items

Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items

Removed Ring of Protection

Removed Enchanted Mango

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Power Treads

Removed Necromonicon - Level 3

Removed Guardian Greaves



Magnus

New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Shockwave 2. Empower 3. Skewer)

Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items

Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items

Moved Bottle to Core Items

Removed Iron Branch x2

Removed Boots of Speed



Slardar

New Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W Q Q E R E E E R (1. Slithereen Crush 2. Sprint 3. Bash)

Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items

Moved Force Staff to Core Items

Moved Armlet of Mordiggian to Situational Items

Removed Desolator



Shadow Fiend

Created New Tab: "Early Game"

Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"

Added Dragon Lance to Core Items

Moved Healing Salve to "Early Game"

Moved Bottle to "Early Game"

Moved Ring of Aquila to "Early Game"



Riki

Added Sentry Wards to Starting Items

Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items

Removed Clarity

Removed Iron Branch x2

Removed Observer Ward

Removed Hand of Midas



Enigma

Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items



Jakiro

Added Wind Lace to Starting Items

Added Guardian Greaves to Situational Items

Removed Enchanted Mango

Removed Iron Branch x2



Puck

Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Moved Veil of Discord to Core Items



Crystal Maiden

Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items



Razor

Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items



Chaos Knight

Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items



Phantom Lancer

Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items



Broodmother

Added Echo Sabre to Situational Items

Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items

Added Butterfly to Extension Items

Moved Manta Style to Stiuational Items

Removed Sange & Yasha

Removed Vladmir's Offering



Luna

Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items

Removed Moon Shard



Axe (Core)

Added Ring of Protection to Starting Items

Added Vanguard to Core Items

Removed Healing Salve

Removed Iron Branch x2



Axe (Jungle)

Added Iron Talon to Core Items



Weaver (Core/Safe)

Added Blight Stone to Early Game

Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items

Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items

Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items

Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items

Removed Aghanim's Scepter



Added Hurricane Pike to Situational ItemsAdded Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational ItemsRemoved Force StaffAdded Phase Boots to Core ItemsAdded Shadow Blade to Situational ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Shiva's Guard to Extension ItemsMoved Blink Dagger to Extension ItemsRemoved Arcane BootsRemoved Refresher OrbRemoved DaedalusRemoved MjolnnirRemoved Eye of SkadiAdded Wind Lace to Starting ItemsAdded Glimmer Cape to Situational ItemsMoved Scythe of Vyse to Extension ItemsRemoved Observer WardRemoved Iron BranchRemoved Healing SalveRemoved Refresher OrbRemoved DaedalusNew Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Acid Spray 2. Unstable Concoction 3. Greevil's Greed)Created New Tab: "Early Game"Added Tango to Starting ItemsAdded Boots of Speed to "Early Game"Added Soul Ring to "Early Game"Added Medallion of Courage to Core ItemsAdded Shadow Blade to Core ItemsAdded Blade Mail to Situational ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Mjollnir to Extension ItemsAdded Eye of Skadi to Extension ItemsAdded Abyssal Blade to Extension ItemsMoved Healing Salve to "Early Game"Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational ItemsRemoved Iron Branch x2Removed BottleRemoved Hand of MidasRemoved Blink DaggerRemoved Skull BasherNew Skill Build: Q W E Q E E E R Q Q R W W W R (1. Berserker's Rage 2. Fervor 3. Whirling Axes)Created New Tab: "Situational Items"Added Tango to Starting ItemsAdded Poor Man's Shield to Early GameAdded Blink Dagger to "Situational Items"Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to "Situational Items"Added Hurricane Pike to "Situational Items"Added Manta Style to "Situational Items"Added Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Eye of Skadi to Extension ItemsMoved Ring of Aquila to Core ItemsRemoved Faerie FireRemoved Iron Branch x2Removed Quelling BladeRemoved Wraith BandRemoved ButterflyNew Skill Build: Q W W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Whirling Axes 2. Berserker's Rage 3. Fervor)Created New Tab: "Situational Items"Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting ItemsAdded Tango to Starting ItemsAdded Shadow Blade to Core ItemsAdded Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core ItemsAdded Silver Edge to Situational ItemsAdded Hurricane Pike to "Situational Items"Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Eye of Skadi to Extension ItemsMoved Helm of the Dominator to Early GameMoved Sange & Yasha to Situational ItemsRemoved Stout ShieldRemoved Faerie FireRemoved Iron Branch x2Removed Quelling BladeRemoved Ring of AquilaRemoved ButterflyAdded Ethereal Blade to Extension ItemsAdded Scythe of Vyse to Extension ItemsMoved Veil of Discord to Core ItemsMoved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core ItemsMoved Aether Lens to Situational ItemsMoved Force Staff to Extension ItemsRemoved Arcane BootsRemoved Magic WandRemove BloodstoneCreated New Tab: "Early Game"Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"Added Lotus Orb to Situational ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Situational ItemsAdded Heart of Tarrasque to Extension ItemsMoved Ring of Basilius to "Early Game"Moved Magic Wand to "Early Game"Moved Vanguard to "Early Game"Moved Crimson Guard to Core ItemsMoved Heaven's Halberd to Situational ItemsMoved Vladmir's Offering to Situational ItemsMoved Sange & Yasha to Extension ItemsNew Skill Build: E Q E Q E R Q Q E W R W W W R (1. Rip Tide 2, Mirror Image 3. Ensnare)Added Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core ItemsAdded Boots of Travel - Level 2 to Extension ItemsMoved Iron Talon to Early GameMoved Manta Style to Core ItemsNew Skill Build: W Q R W W E W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Poof 2. Geostrike 3. Earthbind)Added Quelling Blade to Starting ItemsAdded Dragon Lance to Core ItemsMoved Hurricane Pike to Situational ItemsRemoved Iron BranchRemoved MekansmRemoved Heart of TarrasqueNew Skill Build: Q E Q E E R E W W W R W Q Q R (1. Firefly 2. Flamebreak 3. Sticky Napalm)Added Drum of Endurance to Situational ItemsAdded Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension ItemsRemoved Wind LaceAdded Monkey King Bar to Extension ItemsRemoved DaedalusNew Skill Build: W E Q Q Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Starstorm 2. Leap 3. Sacred Arrow)Added Lotus Orb to Situational ItemsAdded Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Eye of Skadi to Extension ItemsMoved Linken's Sphere to Situational ItemsMoved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational ItemsRemoved Hand of MidasRemoved Magic WandRemoved Hand of MidasRemoved Drum of EnduranceRemoved Black King BarRemoved Shiva's GuardNew Skill Build: Q E W W W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Spirits 2. Overcharge 3. Tether)Added Arcane Boots to Core ItemsAdded Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension ItemsRemoved Drum of EnduranceRemoved Boots of TravelAdded Iron Talon to Starting ItemsAdded Dragon Lance to Core ItemsMoved Shadow Blade to Situational ItemsRemoved Iron Branch x3Removed Faerie Fire x2Removed Ring of ProtectionRemoved ClarityRemoved Silver EdgeAdded Observer Ward to Starting ItemsAdded Wind Lace to Starting ItemsAdded Arcane Boots to Core ItemsAdded Blink Dagger to Extension ItemsAdded Scythe of Vyse to Extension ItemsMoved Aghanim's Scepter to Core ItemsMoved Drum of Endurance to Situational ItemsMoved Force Staff to Extension ItemsMoved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension ItemsRemoved Ring of ProtectionRemoved Enchanted MangoRemoved Healing SalveRemoved Power TreadsRemoved Necromonicon - Level 3Removed Guardian GreavesNew Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Shockwave 2. Empower 3. Skewer)Added Quelling Blade to Starting ItemsAdded Shadow Blade to Situational ItemsMoved Bottle to Core ItemsRemoved Iron Branch x2Removed Boots of SpeedNew Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W Q Q E R E E E R (1. Slithereen Crush 2. Sprint 3. Bash)Added Lotus Orb to Extension ItemsMoved Force Staff to Core ItemsMoved Armlet of Mordiggian to Situational ItemsRemoved DesolatorCreated New Tab: "Early Game"Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"Added Dragon Lance to Core ItemsMoved Healing Salve to "Early Game"Moved Bottle to "Early Game"Moved Ring of Aquila to "Early Game"Added Sentry Wards to Starting ItemsMoved Black King Bar to Situational ItemsRemoved ClarityRemoved Iron Branch x2Removed Observer WardRemoved Hand of MidasAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational ItemsAdded Wind Lace to Starting ItemsAdded Guardian Greaves to Situational ItemsRemoved Enchanted MangoRemoved Iron Branch x2Added Ghost Scepter to Situational ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsMoved Veil of Discord to Core ItemsAdded Drum of Endurance to Situational ItemsAdded Boots of Travel to Extension ItemsAdded Eye of Skadi to Extension ItemsAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational ItemsAdded Echo Sabre to Situational ItemsAdded Abyssal Blade to Extension ItemsAdded Butterfly to Extension ItemsMoved Manta Style to Stiuational ItemsRemoved Sange & YashaRemoved Vladmir's OfferingAdded Eye of Skadi to Extension ItemsRemoved Moon ShardAdded Ring of Protection to Starting ItemsAdded Vanguard to Core ItemsRemoved Healing SalveRemoved Iron Branch x2Added Iron Talon to Core ItemsAdded Blight Stone to Early GameAdded Hurricane Pike to Situational ItemsMoved Black King Bar to Situational ItemsMoved Linken's Sphere to Extension ItemsMoved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension ItemsRemoved Aghanim's Scepter Renamed Offlane

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TheWanderingZebra Profile Joined November 2015 United States 11 Posts #6730 I've been seeing Aui do Vengeful Carry quite a lot, would a Venge Carry Standard Build be appropriate? "There are no gods to save us, there is only ourselves now."

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-06 02:45:31 #6731 On November 06 2016 08:12 TheWanderingZebra wrote:

I've been seeing Aui do Vengeful Carry quite a lot, would a Venge Carry Standard Build be appropriate?



Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides. Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides. https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #6732 Publishing Changes https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #6733 Stats tomorrow https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Pontual Profile Joined October 2016 Brazil 3038 Posts #6734 On November 06 2016 11:29 Torte de Lini wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 06 2016 08:12 TheWanderingZebra wrote:

I've been seeing Aui do Vengeful Carry quite a lot, would a Venge Carry Standard Build be appropriate?



Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides. Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides.

I know you hear this a lot, but Valve should hire you. But they are probably worring more about cosmetics for the next battle pass and profits. But still, you could help with builds for new heroes and balancing heroes/items. I know you hear this a lot, but Valve should hire you. But they are probably worring more about cosmetics for the next battle pass and profits. But still, you could help with builds for new heroes and balancing heroes/items.

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #6735 On November 08 2016 03:50 Pontual wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 06 2016 11:29 Torte de Lini wrote:

On November 06 2016 08:12 TheWanderingZebra wrote:

I've been seeing Aui do Vengeful Carry quite a lot, would a Venge Carry Standard Build be appropriate?



Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides. Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides.

I know you hear this a lot, but Valve should hire you. But they are probably worring more about cosmetics for the next battle pass and profits. But still, you could help with builds for new heroes and balancing heroes/items. I know you hear this a lot, but Valve should hire you. But they are probably worring more about cosmetics for the next battle pass and profits. But still, you could help with builds for new heroes and balancing heroes/items.



I appreciate the compliment. I do hear it a lot but its always nice to hear the appreciation <3 I appreciate the compliment. I do hear it a lot but its always nice to hear the appreciation <3 https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-08 14:26:20 #6737 This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the feedback and knowledge of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: Birdie, Yurie, Velzi, Belisarius, Logo, TheWanderingZebra, Potnual, Ynnad00, chimpan_z, Samthefab, reddit409, raraw21, shadeclan, FlashFlood_29, Exod124, Vandenp, beyondBP, Shaleblade, Bashtime, prairiepenguin2, spanish1inquisition, xHe4DHunt3rx, Rysaxx, elgskred, rhndg, Brassmoose, -De-Koenisch-, League_Champ, turnips8424, uachaic, Prezombie, FeedTheBees, NewDark90, Superskarm4, Turbotanten, FuzzyDragon77, Captainknuckl3s



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Birdie Profile Joined August 2007 New Zealand 1895 Posts #6738 Core naga safelane should have a windlace as you don't have a bottle and the extra movement speed is quite valuable. I'm also very much inclined to say that 1 set of regen is insufficient, starting should be 2x regen and a stout rather than 1x regen 1x QB 1x stout. Buy quelling or PMS asap at sideshop.



Core mid alch and core mid naga should both start with PMS, 2x shared tango, a branch and a faerie fire. Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #6739 On November 08 2016 14:37 Birdie wrote:

Core naga safelane should have a windlace as you don't have a bottle and the extra movement speed is quite valuable. I'm also very much inclined to say that 1 set of regen is insufficient, starting should be 2x regen and a stout rather than 1x regen 1x QB 1x stout. Buy quelling or PMS asap at sideshop.



Core mid alch and core mid naga should both start with PMS, 2x shared tango, a branch and a faerie fire.



Core Naga isn't mid.

Core Alchemist - Mid doesn't seem to be getting more than a salve except on rare occasions. Sometimes just a Faerie Fire.



You'll have to show me examples, I am not seeing what you're suggesting.



Same with Wind Lace, I see Aquila a lot more than Wind Lace. I will add another regen to Naga Siren. Core Naga isn't mid.Core Alchemist - Mid doesn't seem to be getting more than a salve except on rare occasions. Sometimes just a Faerie Fire.You'll have to show me examples, I am not seeing what you're suggesting.Same with Wind Lace, I see Aquila a lot more than Wind Lace. I will add another regen to Naga Siren. https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2016-11-08 16:50:13 #6740 ed https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

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