I don't know if this is true as I heard it yesterday from someone who knew someone who knew one of the first responders. I live in NY, btw. He said when they first opened the limo doors it was the most horrific scene ever. A few victims either had an arm ripped off or partially torn, and one of the victims' hand was completely severed, and one was decapitated. He said they all had broken bones. So aside from internal decapitation at least one was actually decapitated. Again, I didn't hear this directly from the first responder. He told someone who told a friend of mine so I don't know if its accurate but doubt they would have repeated it if it wasn't.

They also said, exact words, "They were bouncing around in there smashing against the hard surfaces and each other like a BB in a boxcar." That is how he described the last few seconds of their lives. He said most died instantly upon impact and a few others died within seconds. If they didn't die instantly they died relatively quick as opposed to laying there suffering and bleeding out for a few minutes aware of what had happened. Absolutely horrible. I feel so bad for the families. I don't know how you move on after a tragedy like this.

BTW, I have not and will not post this anywhere else as the families might see it, although they've probably been told the details. Highly unlikely they would see it on here though. They were cautioned not to search online for comments as they were warned some people were downright cruel and thoughtless with their comments. I know that because I read it in a reply in one of the comment sections in a news article from one of the mothers who lost a son in the limo crash. She was angry that a deranged poster was blaming all of the deceased for not refusing the limo and waiting for one that was safe. So some of the family members are reading comments but seriously doubt they'd be here on the DL.