Tell us about the artwork on your latest releases and your main visual influences?

Jason: That’s Madison Carroll. She’s amazing.

Madison: Madison Carroll is effectively our “fourth member”. I’ve collaborated with her on the entirety of the ‘Container’ album campaign, taking photographs and videos. I was hell bent on creating a singular and immersive universe. I couldn’t get there until some of my ideas met her mind. Jo Ann Callis, Jimmy DeSana, Alec Soth were some of our most frequent references.







How did it feel getting your debut album out?

Madison: We worked on ‘Container’ for three or so years, with some versions of demos dating back a decade. So there’s some relief in getting it out and looking forward. Although we’re amidst a pandemic and quarantine, I feel very stimulated by it, and even more fervor for the themes of our record, swirling around the “dark heart” of America and all its complexities. I think we’re forced to come together in the confusing gray areas in these times of great stress and ‘Container’, for me, is about the struggles of consumerism, materialism, overworking, anxiety, and stress culminating in confusion and loss of intimacy and humanity.

Heather: To me, it felt bittersweet. Releasing work you’re proud you helped make with people you love feels wonderful, but ‘Container’ was released on Friday March 13th, right when people began social distancing due to the COVID-19 outbreak. Our co-album release show the following week with our friends Bambara was postponed, but I’m happy we could give everyone

a record to listen to during the lockdown. Jason and Madison put a huge amount of work into the recordings, and we meticulously chose the order of the track listing for a focused front-to-back listen.

Jason: It feels pretty good.







Favourite gig to date that you’ve played?

Madison: We had a few truly special gigs on this last UK/France tour. Birmingham at the Sunflower Lounge was undersold, but ended up having a great crowd and a great support from ‘Limpid’, who brought really unique blipping sounds and a strange energy in her “American Pyscho” plastic raincoat murder cleanup outfit.

Heather: For me, it was the last show of the last tour, La Route Du Rock Festival in France. Arte.tv filmed our whole set, and the entire festival was run so professionally. We all felt lucid and confident from playing non-stop the few weeks prior.

Jason: The Lexington in London.







Your favourite venue?

Heather: The Lexington in London. There’s always a magical feeling in the air and something strange that happens, well, to me at least.

Madison: The Shacklewell Arms in Dalston is my favorite nowadays. I think ‘Alphaville’ is the parallel in Brooklyn. It’s a dive-y place to go and see bands that are just starting out. That’s a great feeling.

Jason: hmm, it changes.







Best festival experience?

Heather: Again, La Route Du Rock.

Madison: The only festival we’ve played so far is ‘La Route Du Rock’ so yeah I guess that’s right.