General - Last Stand Etiquette

Be prepared

Coordinate with your teammates

Conserve Resources

Store supplies at your base

Delaying the end of the wave

Leaving one Stormvermin alive



Leaving three normal rats (slave or Clanrats) alive

Teaming up on Ogres

1 Ogre and Slaverats



2 Ogres



more Ogres and specials

Being “Ogreless”

Last Stand has a few unspoken rules you should be aware of and following. Make sure to keep them in mind or at least ask your team about their stance on the matter. This will greatly improve teamwork and leaves one less reason for your team to be angry upon you.This tip is mainly for those joining already running games. It is highly recommended to check your loadoutjoining. Luck stones and grim trinkets are of no use in Last Stand and people wielding those are often asked to rejoin or kicked without further ado.If your desired character is not available and you haven't equipped the free character accordingly, cancel joining! Last Stand is not that popular and more often than not you have enough time to equip said character and still join the running game!This starts at the inn - ask your teammates what they need and tell them what you play best / have the most fitting equipment for.Don’t insist on a certain loadout if the majority of your team wants you to play something different. Just because your loadout is great by itself doesn’t mean it works in every team setup. Your trinket selection should also be coordinated with your teammates.Last Stand also heavily relies on voice communication for big Ogre waves and other situations where you have to warn your teammates while in action. So if you are comfortable talking to others, ask your teammates if you can join them on TeamSpeak / discord or vice versa.This includes bombs, healing items and ammunition. Talk to your team on their stance on using healing supplies. Very often it's better to die in the middle of the wave to be revived before the next wave starts. This preserves both your healing items as well as ammunition if you were to run out of it.You shouldn’t use any supplies to kill Ogres most of the time. Using ammunition and bombs on them will often be rendered useless when they get instant killed by Heroic Killing Blow weapons anyways. Both bombs as well as ammunition are very valuable when it comes to saving runs. Bombs can be used to deal with Stormvermin when they get close to overwhelming you and ammunition is key when it comes to killing specials. Stormvermin are not considered specials and should only be killed with ammunition if your team lacks other means to deal with them (which should make you reconsider your team setup as well).Very often your team will select a certain place to build its line of defense upon. Supplies, whether they come in form of chests or drops, are often scattered around the map and hard to reach mid wave and while kiting Ogres - this can be a problem. If you want to respawn because you are in bleed out or low on health and ammunition, it’s heavily advised to die close to your “base” and pick supplies from far away upon respawn.Don’t collect supplies which are close to your defensive position and easy to reach if there are still supplies scattered in the outskirts! This is generally considered bad behaviour unless your team decides otherwise.As discussed before, depending on your team you will find other players respawning for ammunition or health very often. There are two ways to delay the end of a wave indefinitely:So if a teammate of yours decides to die close to the end of the wave, don’t kill the last Stormvermin / last three rats yourself. Use the extra time to search for supplies or take a toilet break (tell your teammates beforehand!). Consider telling your teammate about this tactic once if they happen to be unaware of it (no need to repeat yourself too often though).Coordinating Ogre waves is the most challenging aspect of Last Stand and needs a lot of practice. In general we can divide Ogre waves into three categories:Regardless of how many Ogres you face, you should always get rid of the specials first (and then trash rats). You can look up the heroic wave spreadsheet for information about that. High priority specials areandas they stunlock players and make them easy targets for Ogres.If you are facing one Ogre and trash rats, one player should kite the Ogre while the rest deals with the trash rats. The character with the highest block movement speed is best suited for kiting as he must outmaneuver the scattered Slaverats as well. Keep an eye out for the Ogre in case he changes his target.If you are facing 2 Ogres, the best way to approach Ogres is in teams of two if you have enough space. The two players are then standing on the opposite side of the Ogre and pass the Ogre back and forth. One player of each “Ogre team” should always have an eye out for the other Ogre. If both teams get too close to each other you should consider kiting it further away before attacking it again.If you are facing more than two Ogres (which would be four or six then) your best bet is trying to get all Ogres to focus on a single player who kites them around. If you managed to do that you can carefully pick one Ogre out of the pack and lead it to the 3 remaining players to be beaten up. Repeat this until no Ogres are left. Do not, under any circumstance aggro multiple Ogres for no reason.On higher waves (4 or 6 Ogre waves) you will find your teammates dying on Ogres eventually. At some point you might not be aggroed by any Ogres yourself. If that's the case, don’t pull aggro again and instead prioritize reviving teammates! Very often players new to Last Stand forget about this important aspect and instantaneously pull aggro again thus ruining the run potentially.