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Esper said:

NoobStomper said:

Esper said:

NoobStomper said:



skirting around the issue is probably the wrong term to put it. But as I said earlier, that option B in a review is something a relativist would say just so that people won't criticize them. skirting around the issue is probably the wrong term to put it. But as I said earlier, that option B in a review is something a relativist would say just so that people won't criticize them.



kamisama751 said:

The problem there is how the message got received. B truly shows that it is personal matter which has little to do with the actuall quality.

"I don't like it because there is a seiyuu I don't like." Nothing to say, your personal taste that doesn't apply to others.

A on the other hand is on the objective level. That means it can be true or false. So it has also more power when it comes to the "weight" of your statement.

"It got a seiyuu I don't like therefore it is bad" is just wrong. The problem there is how the message got received. B truly shows that it is personal matter which has little to do with the actuall quality."I don't like it because there is a seiyuu I don't like." Nothing to say, your personal taste that doesn't apply to others.A on the other hand is on the objective level. That means it can be true or false. So it has also more power when it comes to the "weight" of your statement."It got a seiyuu I don't like therefore it is bad" is just wrong.



a)AOT got bad pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.

b)I dislike AOT pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.



Is there something wrong being a relativist?How about pacing?a)AOT got bad pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.b)I dislike AOT pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.



There is something wrong with being a relativist, especially when we are discussing quality of shows. People seem have the idea that just because its subjective in anime, that suddenly all opinions are valid when they are not. Something subjective does not mean that what everyone say is relevant. Opinions can be proven bad. There is something wrong with being a relativist, especially when we are discussing quality of shows. People seem have the idea that just because its subjective in anime, that suddenly all opinions are valid when they are not. Something subjective does not mean that what everyone say is relevant. Opinions can be proven bad. Yup opinion can be proven bad. But I am not discussing objective/subjective/valid/proven wrong/etc2.. I am asking you why cant you said "I dislike AOT pacing. The pacing was inconsistent." Esper said:

NoobStomper said:

Esper said:

NoobStomper said:



skirting around the issue is probably the wrong term to put it. But as I said earlier, that option B in a review is something a relativist would say just so that people won't criticize them. skirting around the issue is probably the wrong term to put it. But as I said earlier, that option B in a review is something a relativist would say just so that people won't criticize them.



kamisama751 said:

The problem there is how the message got received. B truly shows that it is personal matter which has little to do with the actuall quality.

"I don't like it because there is a seiyuu I don't like." Nothing to say, your personal taste that doesn't apply to others.

A on the other hand is on the objective level. That means it can be true or false. So it has also more power when it comes to the "weight" of your statement.

"It got a seiyuu I don't like therefore it is bad" is just wrong. The problem there is how the message got received. B truly shows that it is personal matter which has little to do with the actuall quality."I don't like it because there is a seiyuu I don't like." Nothing to say, your personal taste that doesn't apply to others.A on the other hand is on the objective level. That means it can be true or false. So it has also more power when it comes to the "weight" of your statement."It got a seiyuu I don't like therefore it is bad" is just wrong.



a)AOT got bad pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.

b)I dislike AOT pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.



Is there something wrong being a relativist?How about pacing?a)AOT got bad pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.b)I dislike AOT pacing. The pacing was inconsistent.



There is something wrong with being a relativist, especially when we are discussing quality of shows. People seem have the idea that just because its subjective in anime, that suddenly all opinions are valid when they are not. Something subjective does not mean that what everyone say is relevant. Opinions can be proven bad. There is something wrong with being a relativist, especially when we are discussing quality of shows. People seem have the idea that just because its subjective in anime, that suddenly all opinions are valid when they are not. Something subjective does not mean that what everyone say is relevant. Opinions can be proven bad. Yup opinion can be proven bad. But I am not discussing objective/subjective/valid/proven wrong/etc2.. I am asking you why cant you said "I dislike AOT pacing. The pacing was inconsistent."



In this case, A is include in B, you just gave objective argument to a subjective feeling ... Why do you bother with such a detail?



Back to the main topic. I think archetypal character does reflect a bad writing of the author. People may say there is no character who can't be assimilated with an achetype, and it's probably true. To me,archetype is a mold for characterization,you build a character around it and you should add pretty much things to make him unique and get him away enough from a classic trope (like background, emotion, will, dream ...)

Slice of life don't need it that much though. In this case, A is include in B, you just gave objective argument to a subjective feeling ... Why do you bother with such a detail?Back to the main topic. I think archetypal character does reflect a bad writing of the author. People may say there is no character who can't be assimilated with an achetype, and it's probably true. To me,archetype is a mold for characterization,you build a character around it and you should add pretty much things to make him unique and get him away enough from a classic trope (like background, emotion, will, dream ...)Slice of life don't need it that much though. BBCode