Just please consider what the borderline is between plagiarism and reference. She is clearly not stating that drawing anything with long black coated- object heads are forbidden, but artists individually should show the clear line when looking at the art. There are lot of designs out in the world and yes there are lots of designs that also looks very similar, or even identical. It still depends on the artists how they add their ingredients to make something that may look similar or same to their uniqueness.

There is a limited amount of gestures human autonomy can do and there for it is obvious that artists will end up drawing something that has been already drawn. However the reason why we don’t fight over “who drew a man with standing pose first” is because within the same poses/designs, individuals have put their own idea and inspieration that lets the art to not only a illustration that has man standing, but man standing with a unique design, story and style.

We cannot always be original from start. As myself who is still learning new things when it comes to art once could have plagiarized someones work without realizing. It is up to the artists to understand what they have done wrong, take it as lesson and move a step further into the art world. No one is asking such an originality from top to bottom, 0 to 10. But if you state your art as been referenced yet if the original referneced work appears more on the work than what you have added, that clearly means the lack of originality runs over the reference you had over someone else.

Admitting is not a shameful thing. We aall learn through our mistakes and I am just sad to see artists fighting over about who drew what first, or how common the poses are because those aren’t the main focus. The only thing we need to look and consider is “How much percentage of reference remains in my artwork? Which seems to appear bigger, the reference or artist’s inspiration and taking step further as themselves?”.

I know that I stand no where in art industry to say such a thing, and I myself will possibily still have stereotypes and ideas that are wrong without realization. But when pointing someone with an opinion, and bringing other “friends” just to back up the converstation that does not seem to work out, just have a minute and think about what the real deal is rather than having a internet war.

- How much reference remains in my work?

- If reference appears/takes over my added inspiration,style and originality, what can I add more to balance it out?





Yes @ramdot is my friend artists, but just looking at what is going on between two amazing artists just upsets me. I am not pointing out who did this and that, but just clearly upsetting as I see the conversations seems get far more from what really needs to be taken. @ramdot is not stating that no one ever should draw a object head character with long coats, she is asking about the missing remains of the artist’s interpretation because for what the artist have drawn stating that she/he did not plagiarized or copied, the work still strongly shows the original reference of @ramdot ’s work rather than the extra ideas the artists have put. It is okay to take reference and inspiration, I do too alot. The only thing that seperates the artwork from reference against plagiarism is how I take the reference, convert it into my understanding, and re-building it into my style, and to my creation.

I hope both artists will soon acknowledge the real question that they have to consider, and let this be another experience of stepping into the art industry. Understand, going back through and admitting isn’t a shameful thing. What’s shameful is to pull off your friends as backup for a internet-war so please, don’t make such a chance to learn as a muddy puddle fight but do take a moment and see what you guys are really dealing with here.





Dunno how to finish so will finish with my fluff ball turtle-ing around with her bed



