

Thanks for the interesting read, all these muscaria threads are making me hope I find some.



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I was very depressed for the last couple of months. Found some amanitas few days ago, dried them, made tea. Just a sip a day took my depression away and I have been feeling energized and cheerful. Tried eating about a teaspoon of them hot and crispy right out of the oven, they were super tasty. Wanted to keep going, but stopped myself - I only have a small box of them dried, would worry about running out, want them to last. Felt no ill effects, definitely very therapeutic. Would like to have a trip, but don't want to use up too much, want to keep them for depression medication.



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That's very interesting man, thanks for sharing. I may have to give that a try. If I find any muscaria. I would never have thought of using them like that.



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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky



You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by



I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me



I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free







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This thread is the holy grail for A.M information. But it seems all this would be old news to the old-time vedic priests. Probably from tens of thousands of years of trial and error.



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I'm glad to hear back from you Beel-Zebub.

If AM is really the vedic Soma, it seems there are still some interpretation ambiguities related to the preparation. For instance I've read opposite interpretation about the use of milk. What do you think about it?

I planned to give it a try, I even already bought the bacteria to enhance reactions (as suggested by the tek in the patent).

What's your opinion about it? Have you tried it? Or do you know anyone who tried it?



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never tried them but I heard there hit or miss



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Guys, do you know is it dangerous to take amanitas two days in raw. I took 6 grams of Washington grade a++ yesterday and wanted to take them today again. If I take magic mushrooms I usually take them 2-3 days in raw, but amanitas are poisonous, may poison of amanitas somehow stay in my blood and kick in when I take them today?



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Guys, do you know is it dangerous to take amanitas two days in raw. I took 6 grams of Washington grade a++ yesterday and wanted to take them today again. If I take magic mushrooms I usually take them 2-3 days in raw, but amanitas are poisonous, may poison of amanitas somehow stay in my blood and lick in when Im take them today?



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I heard it isn't recommended to eat (take) them everyday. I personally try to be wary of doing that. Also heard there's a reverse tolerance with these so the more you take it the more you can experience, not sure how true that is though. Supposedly with mushrooms in general it's a good idea to generally keep consumption down.



Also, it is possible to find maggot free specimens...



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Naw mosquitoes... I wouldn't worry. "All you have to do is eat it with garlic; garlic contains S-allyl-l-cysteine, which protects against the neurotoxic effects of ibotenic acid." - entropymancer



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ showflat.php/Number/9298346



The ibotenic acid is mostly excreted in the first two hours anyways so the next day seems far away; but be prepared for reverse tolerance.



OP: Also from that^ thread (thedudenj): "as far as milk i find milk to produce greater effects having it mixed in mix vs. not with milk shows a significant difference".



Here's the milk report from catfishrivers: "Well the dude I see sometimes told me that he actually tried this preparation recently. He took roughly 5 grams of cracker dry caps and crumbled them into 8 oz of 2% milk (not soured) and let it sit, covered with a cloth, for 12 hours, and then strained out the mushrooms, squeezing to acquire every last bit of milk back. He described the milk as having taken on the taste of the mushroom, in a way that actually did not taste bad, sort of rich and earthy tasting as he described it. He mixed it with honey, and felt that the beverage served this way was actually somewhat luxurious. If he had perhaps added a few spices, like nutmeg or cinnamon, or similar, the drink might have been a real treat to taste.



He said the effects did not so much seem to be increased for that dosage, but the overall character of the experience was seemingly more apparent taking the mushroom this way. Sitting in the dark listening to Brian Eno's Discreet Music, he said he was seeing the geometric phantasmal shapes of "something else" that seemed sentient, or at least reactive to the dude's own movements. At one point, the dude felt a bit creeped out by the phantasmal geometries and started to employ a protective energetic technique he learned from the Hemisync Gateway Series, which the phantasmal geometries actually seemed to react to, rushing from several different points in the space around the dude towards the energy shell the dude shaped around himself.



Besides all that, the dude says the experience felt a lot easier on his body overall this way. The bodyload was much less than he was used to from the dried caps eaten at the same dosages. The visual aspect was much more apparent this time as well. Sleep came easily, whereas with the dried caps sleep seemed to come on almost forcefully. Overall the effect profile seemed less drastic, yet somehow more profound. The dude said he'll probably have a few more stories about this the next time we run into each other... "



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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:

1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine

2)Amanita (urine drank twice)

3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)

4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)

5)Salvia (need to try quid)





All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.



Blessing.



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If I ever try Muscaria it certainly will be with garlic and steeped in milk. Thanks for sharing. Also I am curious as to why in your sig you have morning glories higher than hawaiin baby's. What is the reason for that? I understand it means you enjoyed morning glory more, that just surprises me and I would be interested in knowing more.



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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky



You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by



I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me



I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free







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They have given me more consistent euphoria where hbwr have yielded a more clinical trip. Perhaps I just haven't found the right source for the hbwr but for me, now, heavenly blue morning glory is most divine.



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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:

1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine

2)Amanita (urine drank twice)

3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)

4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)

5)Salvia (need to try quid)





All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.



Blessing.



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Interesting. I would assume it would be the other way around just do to the need for more seeds. Are you talking about straight seeds eaten or water and or other extracts?



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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky



You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by



I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me



I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free







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Water extracts mostly.



Back to Amanita... I learned one can grow the mycelium out at home, just not form the fruits without a host tree. The mycelium should be active.



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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:

1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine

2)Amanita (urine drank twice)

3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)

4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)

5)Salvia (need to try quid)





All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.



Blessing.



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Interesting.





In my experience, I've used amanita as a pain killer,by drying in a dehydrator and then swallowing coin size amounts rolled into pills, with two datura stram. seeds, which help eliminate any nausea.

I generally feel relaxed and sleepy for a few hours after this, and my husband uses it with good effect on his gout and arthritis.



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Flickedibic, thanks for sharing the milk report. Very interesting, I'll try it and report it.



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Interesting theory:



1. PSYLOCIBE SUPPLANTED AMANITA MUSCARIA IN MEXICO IN ANCIENT TIME ??

2. PSYLOCIBE SUPPLANTED AMANITA MUSCARIA IN GREECE TOO AND CONSEQUENTLY CAUSED SOMA FADING AWAY IN INDIA TOO ??



This is what suggests the following excerpt.

Please share your thoughts and if you happen to know other sources related to this subject... Please contribute to make light on the subject. Thanks



ROBERT GRAVES: MUSHROOMS AND RELIGION



The psilocybe mushroom used in the Mexican rites is small, brown in colour, slender-stalked and bitter; but sculptural evidence from Central America suggests that it had supplanted the amanita muscaria in ritual use, probably because it was easier to obtain and because the hang-over did not last so long. The same change seems to have occurred in Greece: the discovery of a new hallucinogenic mushroom, a stropharia, or a panaeolus, which, unlike the amanita muscaria, could be ground up and baked in sacrificial cakes for religious use in the Mysteries without losing its powers. When, according to the Greek myth, the Corn Goddess Demeter visited Eleusis, the Attic city where the Mysteries were to be celebrated for another two thousand years, she is said to have ordered Triptolemus, son of the local King, to drive around the civilized world in a chariot drawn by snakes, spreading the arts of agriculture as he went. This myth is clearly deceptive. Corn had been sown and harvested in Palestine for several thousands of years before Demeter's people arrived at Eleusis. What may have happened is that the local priestess sent a message about the newly discovered mushroom to priests and priestesses throughout the civilized world-hence the snakes in Triptolemus's chariot. This, if so, would explain why the nature and source of the original Soma has been forgotten in India for so many centuries. The supply from the birch groves of the High Himalayas seems to have been cut off by enemy action, and placebos, such as asclepias, substituted for it until eventually its place was taken in Brahman ritual, after the receipt of Triptolemus's message, by a better, more manageable and more accessible sacred mushroom.



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