Actress and comedian Rosie O’Donnell claimed on Monday night that President Donald Trump pays people to attend his campaign rallies.

O’Donnell, who hosted an anti-Trump rally in Washington, DC earlier in the evening, insisted to CNN anchor Chris Cuomo that the only reason Trump draws such big crowds is because he pays them to be there.

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“People are paid, Chris,” she claimed. “We know that. People were paid since he went down on the escalator. He pays people to show up at those rallies.”

“But I don’t know that that’s why he gets tens of thousands at the rallies,” Cuomo asserted. “I think he captures a lot of emotion for people.”

O’Donnell argued that Trump does not get “tens of thousands” of people to show up to his rallies, another claim Cuomo sought to debunk.

“Rosie, I’ve seen them. He gets big groups of people to come out. He gives themes that resonate,” Cuomo said.

“But Chris, are people paid?” O’Donnell asked again.

“I don’t know, I don’t have the facts that his crowds are bought off. I don’t have that,” Cuomo repeated. “I’m not going to say, ‘they’re all bought off, they’re all fake,’ because I think that’s b.s., I don’t think it’s true. I’m not going to play to it just because it’s satisfying.”

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