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thegoodanarchist : <offramp: Who thought up the brilliant pun for this game? And who voted for it?> Could it have been you? In a former life? Feb-24-16 luftforlife : In his The Middle Game in Chess, GM Dr. Reuben Fine analyzed this game from 18. Bd6 through its conclusion, and followed the moves just as they are iterated here. His annotation (which I've altered only by conversion to one form of modern-day notation and by identifying the cumulative move numbers) diverges from the alternative 1879 Steinitz line provided above (interlarded with the PGN moves), with the following predicted moves and consequences flowing from the alternate move 18. . . . Qxa1: "If here, e.g. 18. . . . QxRa1+; 19. Ke2, QxRg1; then 20. Nxg7+, Kd8; 21. Bc7#." Reuben Fine, The Middle Game in Chess (New York: David McKay Co. 1952, Tartan softcover reprint, September 1972), at 20 (notation converted, cumulative enumeration substituted). Best to all, ~ lufty Feb-24-16

Sally Simpson : "Kieseritzky sure showed his limitation by going for piece-grabs...." Kieseritzky had a plus score v Anderssen.

Some chess books actually claim that Kieseritzky was the winner of this game. (it was definitely Anderssen.) Eliza Campbell Foot (see my post in that thread.) Mar-17-16 talhal20 : Anderssen was at the top of his chess prowess. Apr-12-16 Gambito23 : Kaspárov critica el gambito 4...b5, y analiza 7.Cc3! g5 8.d4 Ab7 9.h4 Tg8 10.Rg1 gh 11.Th4 Dg6 12.De2 Ce4 13.Tf4 f5 14.Ch4 Dg3 15.Ce4 (1-0) Nigel Short-Kaspárov,Londres 1993. Partida exhibición temática. Aug-26-16 nikromos : This final position of this game was used in Mr. Robot for the first game Ray plays with Elliott. Nov-12-16

Inedit2 : Very strange game ! Mar-29-17 erony : Of course 18.Bd6?! played in the game was not a good move, when 18. d4! is winning, just like 18. Be3! or 18. Re1!. But after all, it is not so bad. The line 18.Bd6 Qxa1+ 19. Ke2 Qb2 20. Kd2! is critical, but it is not "0,00" like somebody said. After 20...Bxg1 21 e5 Ba6, white wins (I leave you the pleasure to discover how). Better 21...Bb7 but still, it is a white advantage. Jul-06-17

ketchuplover : Happy Immortal Birthday young man :) Aug-25-17 Isilimela : Oh alas the death of romanticism at the cold hands of the "silicon monster". 16 ... Bc5 ?? Blunder

17 Nd5 Blunder (17 d4 Bf8 18. Be5 etc)

18. Bd6 Blunder 18 ... Bxg1 Blunder! Aug-25-17 ughaibu : Not every less than best move is a "blunder". Aug-25-17

WorstPlayerEver : A blunder is a serious mistake. Aug-25-17 Olavi : There are other definions also. It's very normal for professionals to call a move a blunder if they have overlooked everything. Even if they got lucky and the move didn't lose or anything. OK, that's perhaps an emotional definition. Oct-16-17 ndg2 : Evergreen > Immortal Oct-16-17 benderules : Bagration is a name? It sounds like an insult. Oct-16-17

keypusher : <benderules> <Bagration is a name? It sounds like an insult.> Far from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr... Jan-18-18 MariusDaniel : Adolf Anderssen's Great Chess skills! Apr-22-18 Tal1949 : It is strange that a off-hand game has been given the title of the Immortal game. Do we have any idea how serious both men took the game? (which could be the real reason for the errors). And if Kieseritsky did resign after the King move- the ending moves are just made up and the queen sacrifice did not even happen. It is easy to just play 22..Ne7 and deny the glory of the sacrifice anyway. Tal and Koblents (and many other masters) probably have a dozen Immortal games like this that have never seen the light of day. May-18-18 dk93069 : Its very interesting game I have ever seen. Oct-03-18

louispaulsen88888888 : Adalbert? Felix? Bagration??? I bet this kid had a hard time in school! May-24-19

Sally Simpson : ***

“Why Worry?

It is too easy to take life and your a little too seriously these days. The modern chess player will typically worry about next month’s mortgage payment, the phone bill or ChessBase Database incompatibilities with Windows ’95. He may drown his sorrows in the local after a particularly harsh from Fritz 4. Worse still, a bad six months might well see an unhealthy drop in rating points, fewer invitations, little or nothing in the way of appearance fees and depressing trips to Wolverhampton to up a quick quid un a rapid-play event, I find that the best antidote to these symptoms is a return to traditional values of the 19th century, In those days, chess was played in cafes with the typical alcohol consumption a little more than the two units recommended to today’s beleaguered modern man. The so-called ‘Immortal Game’ was played in Simpson’s-in-the-Strand in 1851.” There follows the ‘Immortal Game’

David Norwood, Weekend Telegraph. March 1977

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In his financial woes ending with depressing trips to Wolverhampton David forgot to mention that a good source of income was a newspaper column where one can reshuffle old often repeated games. :)

*** Aug-18-19 Chesgambit : http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/... Mar-02-20 MordimerChess : I went thru the 18. Bd6 line, It seems that Steinitz miał rację (stockfish też) 18...Qxa1+ 19. Ke2 Qb2 20. Kd2 Bxg1 21. e5 Ba6 22. Nc7+ Kd8 23. Nxa6 Bb6 24. Qxa8 Ba5+ 25. Ke3 Qc1+ etc.. If white move the king on the light squares they're gonna lose the queen on A8. But the situation is very delicate. One false move by any side and the game can be lost. Only the best engine moves draw. Crazy :) The First Immortal Chess Game ever. London 1851. White sacrificed bishop, two rooks & queen. Check mate! My analysis:

https://youtu.be/hVNDIb92qXw

These two players played many games. Kieseritzky won the match, Anderssen won Eternity! May-22-20 MrCalculater : my program, greenplain, 3 ply computer and my program, starlight, 6 ply, both cannot see the sac. only my best deep starlight can see it(8 ply) Sep-20-20 SlurpJurp : When I analyze move 18. Bd6, stockfish jumps from +5.7 to 0.0, even though the move doesn't appear to be a blunder. In fact, following the engine's evaluation, the position is dead even, which is so weird. The engine seems to find it very difficult to make a plan as white, even though white has a clear advantage. In fact with the moves (18. Bd6 Qxa1+ 19. Ke2 QB2 20. Bxc5 Qxc2+ 21. Kf1 Qxc5 22. d4 Qc6 23. Qf4 f6 24. Nd6+ Kd8) black has effectively nullified the white attack, with the computer giving an evaluation of 0.0. Jump to page # (enter # from 1 to 19)

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