I came across this in the archives: >The widely shared belief (among both Forthies >and outsiders) that every "real" Forth programmer hacks together >his own compiler/interpreter/programming environment also makes >the Forth community look frivolous or at best naive. Most people >who program for a living know that there are more useful ways to >spend their time than building their own programming environment -- >the key to productivity is leveraging off other peoples' work. HERESY in the Forth community! Imagine... NOT coming up with your own CASE...http://javafree.uol.com.br/artigo/871463/Interview-with-Klaus-Wuestefeld-founder-of-Prevayler.html ...Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH? Blueeyedpop wrote: > Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH? The IBM 1130 didn't do lower case. -jpd (co-developer of FORGO, a FORTRAN compile&go system for the 1130) Blueeyedpop wrote: > Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH? Yes, back when we used A(or K)SR33s. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ����������������������������������������������������������������������� When did we stop...I found this rethink of FORTH and I like what I see, but I would need to try coding with it. http://aerosuidae.net/reforth/ Thoughts? On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:18:59 AM UTC-5, andreas...@lowfatcomputing.org wrote: > I found this rethink of FORTH and I like what I see, but I would need to try coding with it. Yes Sir. I like it soo much so far, and you want to know why? I already feel I've coded in it, somehow after simply reading it. I had my code inserting itself into it. I like it so far. On 5/16/13 6:18 AM, andreas.wagner@lowfatcomputing.org wrote: > I foun...This is a shareware compiler, and the notes say that one is required to purchase it if it is found useful, but on the other hand it also says that one can freely distribute programs made with it, if there is no commercial usage. So, if I distribute freeware, am I still required to purchase it? Here's the link to the compiler: http://www.simtel.net/product.php%5Burl_fb_product_page%5D63060 Another question, and this come from someone who has never written a line of assembly; is it safe to use forth compilers as F-PC, pygmy and Turbo-Forth? I can't possibly damage my computer perm...Last month I mentioned the traditional design of the Forth compiler loop detailed as the compiler part of the Forth interpreter/compiler loop detailed on page 28 of the Forth Programmers Handbook written by Elizabeth Rather. Most people knows this forty year old loop; parse for the next word in the stream search the dictionary for the word if found check if it is immediate if it is immediate execute it if it is not immediate compile it if it is not in the dictionary try number conversion if it is a number in the current base compile a literal if it is not a number it is an error We say comp...Hello All, I'm curious...which forth compiler is good? And can forth be used for operating system development? Any help is appreciated. Thanks Jason ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Jmorris3...@aol.com wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm curious...which forth compiler is good? You should be more accurrate in your request. It depends on the target processor and maybe the environ...Hi all I make my second compiler for R4 and I try to resolve some optimization. I focus on convert a expresion 4 * MEM + @ to mov eax,[MEM+eax*4] ; when eax=TOS but I use a lot of times this expresion, for @ and for ! and the I ask you if, like @+ or !+ why not a work called 4*+]@ | mem c -- value or something. this avoid me to search the patern and generate the code Any comentary/ideas about this ? Some diferents experiences about memory adressing ? I like ear all the point of view. thanks Pablo pablo reda wrote Re: compiling forth [..] > I make my sec...is there a archive of applications built in forth? something like cpan for perl? etc.? On Dec 2, 3:46=A0pm, gavino wrote: > is there a archive of applications built in forth? > > something like cpan for perl? etc.? Well, you'll find some things. Take a look at forthfreak.net to get the pointers. The main problem is that even "ANS compatible" Forths are not compatible at all if you add the mindset of the programmer to the standard. There are some classes of problems that are better solved by non-ANS extensions than with ANS. And almost every...hello all, Im wondering if you could briefly explain what forth gets compiled into. Articles Im reading say its not an interpreted language and its not compiled into machine code either. So lets say you have a 1000 line program that defines 50 words. The defined words get added to the dictionary and the program itself gets changed into a list of function pointers. But where is that list stored? Im sure the words added to the dictionary are held in memory since the dictionary is a linked list which is part of the forth implementation, but the program itself, that cant be held in memory can it?...I'm using an old laptop with a simple Celeron processor and SP-Forth from t= he Russian Forth Interest Group. In SP-Forth there are words SET-OPT and DI= S-OPT that optionally compile the Forth code to machine code. Using this op= timization method the code normally become 20 times faster.=20 I wonder, is this normal for a processor like mine? It's a rather big gap i= n my opinion... On 4/4/15 9:02 AM, lehs wrote: > I'm using an old laptop with a simple Celeron processor and > SP-Forth from the Russian Forth Interest Group. In SP-Forth > there are words SET-OPT...Forth is to program , not to learn , nor study . Study is for students , Students dont eat well . They seek help and subsidy , and credencials .. all , far from productive programming . There is NO arguement , NO arguement in Forth , cause it is always done LEAST WORK , FASTEST runtime . In 40 years , Humans have built up school systems , universities, industries and factories Since it is a "system" , its uncompetitive . Competition and profits are impossible from any system . Accountants can see the "books" indicate this is ...how about a forth clone of iceWM in 1% the code? On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:36:49 PM UTC-6, the_gavino_himself wrote: > how about a forth clone of iceWM in 1% the code? Right now, what I'm interested in is niche RPGMaker-type games on Android. I've done some of this work already in Java, including creating a map editor (on Android) and a playable demo, using First Seed Material (http://www.tekepon.net/fsm/index.php) assets I gave up on my last alternatives to Java when I found Terminal IDE, which allowed me to move code all the way from Java source to installable ...Has anyone got an implementation working on a TREO 600? Ian implementation of what On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC), "Ian Jones" wrote: |Has anyone got an implementation working on a TREO 600? | |Ian | Alien at Large wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC), "Ian Jones" > wrote: > > |Has anyone got an implementation working on a TREO 600? > | > |Ian > > implementation of what What he said in the subject line. (Hint: it...