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To: John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d8b024e5d0505264799bf --089e010d8b024e5d0505264799bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well, I won't sugarcoat. I was generally disappointed in Secretary Clinton's answers regarding radical Islam. Which is odd to say because I'm sure she feels she's sticking her neck out for the Muslim community. I totally empathize with, and understand, the desire not to lump all of Islam into a clash of civilizations framework and provide fodder for radical Islamists to recruit. But here's how I'd respond: 1) if we try to defend the "true Islam" and say it's peaceful, we are doing the work for Muslims that they need to do themselves; I would rather encourage them to feel like "these damn ISIL/AQ are giving us a terrible name and we have to do something about it because the Americans are saying there's a radical Islam" (they are less incentivized if we're carrying water by saying "don't worry, we'll defend your religion for you"); 2) "radical Islam" should be embraced not to describe violent radicals, but generally anti-progressives (people who ideologically hate gays/women/jews/christians); that's our longer and more enduring campaign; 3) it really has little effect in the ISIL propaganda war if we're hesitating to say "radical Islam", they are already calling themselves the Islamic State after all On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 8:56 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> wrote: > POTUS? > > HRC today on George? --089e010d8b024e5d0505264799bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Well, I won't sugarcoat. I was generally disappointed = in Secretary Clinton's answers regarding radical Islam. Which is odd to= say because I'm sure she feels she's sticking her neck out for the= Muslim community. I totally empathize with, and understand, the desire not= to lump all of Islam into a clash of civilizations framework and provide f= odder for radical Islamists to recruit. But here's how I'd respond:= 1) if we try to defend the "true Islam" and say it's peacefu= l, we are doing the work for Muslims that they need to do themselves; I wou= ld rather encourage them to feel like "these damn ISIL/AQ are giving u= s a terrible name and we have to do something about it because the American= s are saying there's a radical Islam" (they are less incentivized = if we're carrying water by saying "don't worry, we'll defe= nd your religion for you"); 2) "radical Islam" should be emb= raced not to describe violent radicals, but generally anti-progressives (pe= ople who ideologically hate gays/women/jews/christians); that's our lon= ger and more enduring campaign; 3) it really has little effect in the ISIL = propaganda war if we're hesitating to say "radical Islam", th= ey are already calling themselves the Islamic State after all<div><br></div= ></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, De= c 6, 2015 at 8:56 PM, John Podesta <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= john.podesta@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">john.podesta@gmail.com</a>></s= pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex= ;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">POTUS?<div><br></div>HRC toda= y on George? </blockquote></div><br></div> --089e010d8b024e5d0505264799bf--