Anthony Bourdain has said it over and over, but he'll say it again: There's no way on Earth he'd sit down for a meal with President Trump. He's even blamed "smug" liberals for causing Trump's victory. And now, he's gone further, saying in a new interview that he doubts Trump likes food, or has even learned how to pick up a pair of chopsticks.

On the CBC news program The National, Bourdain said that President Obama had no trouble with chopsticks when the two ate in Vietnam for his show, Parts Unknown. "President Obama spent a lot of time in Indonesia as a young man, and he's very sentimental about the street food, and the smells, and those flavors," he said.

But Bourdain said he would never film a similar segment with Trump, because not only does he not approve of him as a person, but also he assumes the president doesn't care much for food at all.

I'm open to sitting down with anyone who's nice to me. I've sat down with everyone from Ted Nugent, [to the] former chief of counterintelligence for the KGB, Hezbollah, you know, people who I disagree with on many, if not every, fundamental issue. But I have no expectation—I just find him personally objectionable. I don't think he likes food, and from people I know who have had to endure dinner with him, if you enjoy sitting there listen to him talk about himself, great, God bless you. And you know, the man, he only eats steak well-done, and if he knows how to use chopsticks, much less able to grasp them with those tiny little nubbins, I'd be shocked.

There goes Bourdain's invitation to state dinners for a good long while. Watch the full interview below:

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