After Manchester City's first defeat of the season, Sam Roscoe is joined by Goal.com's Sam Lee and City fan Paul Atherton to discuss the last week. We review the 3-0 win over Fulham and the 2-1 defeat to Lyon - asking why the performance was just so flat. We catch up with David Brightwell for the second part of our interview where he explained how he swapped football for the fire service. Howard Hockin is talking respect, and we preview trips to Cardiff and Oxford as well.