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"This is Who Sequoia Voting Systems Has Chosen to Test Their Machines Instead of Princeton"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 3/25/2008 @ 7:44 pm PT...





That google cache page probably won't last forever. That's where the right click save as comes into play. One would think these people would learn more discretion with their internet crumbs. He is good proof that capitalism is shallow.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Michael g said on 3/25/2008 @ 8:21 pm PT...





Thank god for BradBlog... without you, Brad, all these wonderful gems would just get lost in the ether. This guy's a classic, lol... "former Board Member of Stone Tablet Ministries" is the only added position to his newly enhanced myspace resume. Now we know he's trustable- yikes!

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... TomaHawk said on 3/25/2008 @ 9:30 pm PT...





Brad, I sincerely hope that you have forwarded this to all in NJ who need to see it, including directly to the SOS. If this doesn't destroy Sequoia in that state, nothing will.

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... neoconvict said on 3/25/2008 @ 10:11 pm PT...





Jesus Christ. And still it continues. McCain wins 52-48. AAAAAAAGHH

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... emlev said on 3/25/2008 @ 10:51 pm PT...





I didn't notice that, Michael G #2. Interesting. The Stone Tablets Ministries website says, "Our goal is to help Christians share their faith effectively for our Lord Jesus Christ. Our ministries will help you to learn how to reach people locally and around the world. Feel free to visit each ministry page. Help us grow our Porn Busters ministry." (emphasis added) Could this have anything to do with why Gibbons, with his penchant for "blonde nymphomaniacs" is a former board member?

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... polzoo said on 3/26/2008 @ 12:59 am PT...





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COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 3/26/2008 @ 12:31 pm PT...





I wonder why he was so sheepish so as not to tell how many lines of code he did on those wonderful revolting evoting machines. And why did they not stay with Shawn Southworth, the certifier of all evoting machines? This is akin to the Butch Custody and the Hoppy Kid episode. Hilarious. They should do comedy skits instead.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/26/2008 @ 1:30 pm PT...





Mike Gibbons = Self Important Prick

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/26/2008 @ 1:41 pm PT...





He sure loves this video Hello Nicole,

Please pass along to Ron and Ron that the "Hammer Forming Techniques" is my favorite. I watched it in amazement three times in a row the first day. PS: I think I now own all of the Fournier and Covell DVD series. Warmest regards, Mike Gibbons, Kwaidan Consulting Services, Inc.

Sugar Land, Texas Don't appear it takes too much to entertain him Link

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... JEP said on 3/26/2008 @ 2:12 pm PT...





Another sleazy millionaire who wants to be a billionaire? From TEXAS? Must be something in the air down there...

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Molly McCoy said on 3/26/2008 @ 10:45 pm PT...





I found a few more details about Raymond Michael Gibbons of Sugar Land that might interest you: http://onourradar.blogsp...-make-this-stuff-up.html By the way, the single-family home at that address where his company is listed and I'm guessing also where he may live is assessed at $207,000. I wouldn't be so sure he isn't embellishing his financial credentials a tad. Googling isn't interviewing, mind you, but that cursory glance gives me the impression Suntron Corp. may have been his biggest claim to fame, and I'm guessing he and Suntron parted ways some time ago. That company's latest big contract seems to be selling components for plasma TVs in Mexico. Didn't strike me as voting machine experience. His interest in Schroedinger's cats, referring to the quantum physics genius who won the Nobel, seemed kind of creepy because, 1) the analogy between him inspecting these black boxes and the Schroedinger's cat paradox, and 2) the woman who filed a lawsuit claiming George W. Bush raped her was Margie Schoedinger (all but one 'r') of (cue "Twighlight Zone" music) of Sugar Land, Texas.

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/27/2008 @ 12:30 am PT...





Good golly miss Molly, great stuff. I wonder if Rainman Gibbons ever hooked up with R Doug Lewis before?, being in the Tx electronics biz and all...hmmm, I got a feelin' Brad...

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/27/2008 @ 12:56 am PT...





...and what does Mireaux have in common with all these shady characters?

Same goes for the name, it reminds me of Dr. Moreau Link

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Michael Richardson said on 3/27/2008 @ 6:12 am PT...





Another great scoop Brad. If I didn't know better I'd be tempted to think you made this one up. Sequoia has a long history of deception with their voting machine claims. If they think this guy will clean up the corporate image they are sadly mistaken. Maybe Tom Wilkey, head honcho at the EAC, will throw some work to Kwaidan. Wilkey has previously shown his interest in helping Sequoia fix their voting machine PR problems. However, having outfits like Kwaidan hunt for hackers doesn't exactly build one's confidence in Sequoia's voting machines!

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... molly said on 3/27/2008 @ 9:57 am PT...





#11 I'm sure you know the woman who filed the lawsuit went dead. Funny the way bushco likes to drop hints that they know we know. Their faces show the fun doesn't last forever.

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... oneguy said on 3/27/2008 @ 11:49 am PT...





Interesting that the word Nephilim appears in his old profile. Some nutty people link this word to aliens and ancient civilizations. But don't take my word for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 3/27/2008 @ 1:12 pm PT...





http://weblog.infoworld..../03/smoking_guns_an.html {There are some url links from this excerpt, including to BradBlog, that I didn't include in this copy/paste.} Meanwhile, Sequoia has responded to public pressure, kinda sorta, announcing it has submitted the broken voting machines used in New Jersey to third-party testing (though only its own, hand-picked testers, of course). Strangely, Sequoia parceled out its machines' source code to an unknown company called Kwaidan Consulting Services of Houston, leading some bloggers to ask, Who the hell is Kwaidan Consulting Services? Looking up KwaidanConsulting.com doesn't inspire much confidence. My browser was immediately redirected to bnmq.com, which Spy Sweeper warned me was not a nice place to be. (According to McAfee SiteAdvisor, bnmq is guilty of extreme spammishness.) The Kwaidan domain is registered by a company called Prime Directive Inc. Calls to Prime Directive's number went unanswered, as did email. But a Texas corporate records search traces PDI to one Raymond Michael Gibbons, aka Mike. Mike Gibbons has a solid geek pedigree --- an engineer and executive at K*Tec Electronics, later subsumed into Suntron, a contract manufacturer based in Phoenix. Suntron makes the eSlate voting machines for Hart InterCivic, one of the few e-voting companies that rarely makes the news. (If there's a smoking gun connection between Suntron and Sequoia, I haven't found it. But all you out there in Cringeville are welcome to try).

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 3/27/2008 @ 2:52 pm PT...





If folks find this post to be kind of a ramble, I apologize. Perhaps the first and last references here are good enough for those folks. http://64.233.169.104/se...=clnk&cd=9&gl=us Mr. Gibbons joined Kent in February 1997 as Director of Quality for K*TEC. In January 1998, he was appointed Vice President of Kent and Executive Vice President and General Manager of K*TEC. Prior to joining Kent, Mr. Gibbons was Manager, Product Center Quality at Schlumberger Dowell since 1993 and held various quality and engineering positions with divisions of Schlumberger since 1984. I'm not sure why Gibbons is looking to cheat on his wife. She's very cute according to this photo. http://www.reunion.com/rgibbons1 http://www.chessgames.co...rl/chessgame?gid=1008361 Fischer's influence and training allowed me to become President, CEO (et alia). True students of this game understand that Chess bears a "1 to 1" mapping to life itself. The application of Chess’ fundamental principles is directly applicable to both personal and professional life. I knew this guy who said everything in life could be explained with football. Another person told me the meaning of life was contained in the song Bohemian Rhapsody. Me? I think the meaning of life can be explained through synchronized swimming. Just kidding. http://home.houston.rr.com/mikegibbons/ When I found out that Navari at BreakForDisinfoNews was Steven Hertzberg, it helped o'plenty to figure out his various screen names. Navari gave a lot of results. Then there was the stevenstevensteven username. Here are google results for Gibbons' chess forum name. http://www.google.com/se...m&btnG=Google+Search Check this out for hypocrisy. http://members.greenpeac...BB2/viewtopic.php?p=3251 Mankind's ignorance via the pursuit of the "Almighty Dollar" is succeeding in the destruction of our ONLY home. Our stewardship of this planet would be humourous if the results were not so tragic. http://community.fox16.com/members/gibbonsm.aspx It looks like he signed up for a Fox tv message board and left one post, but I couldn't find it. http://www.tenthdimensio...iewtopic.php?p=3360#3360 Hello It's my first post to this Board. It appears to me that what we call CONSCIOUNESS is really an illusion. We are incapable (by our very design) of perceiving reality. In reality the past, present and future co-exist simultaneously painted on a FOUR dimensional landscape. At a time like this, I am reminded of the famous quote from Werner Karl Heisenberg. "We must remember that what we observe is not nature itself but rather nature exposed to our method of questioning." He used to have a drinking problem.

http://www.soberrecovery...what-heck-dry-drunk.html Ok, I found something that might actually mean something, not sure. http://www.selfservice.o...orum/viewtopic.php?p=267 Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: "Advice: Touch Screen Display?" Anyone know which supplier manufacturers the touch screen in Coin Stars Prepaid System? See link below.

http://www.coinstar.com/us/html/A1-2-2 I'm looking for something similar to this touch screen. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Cost is a key driver as is basic functionality. Thanks in advance! Mike Gibbons

gibbonsm@houston.rr.com

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Molly McCoy said on 3/27/2008 @ 8:02 pm PT...





Socrates, it's interesting that his and Margaret's children are relatively young, given Mike and Marge's ages. I found a Raymond Michael Gibbons Jr. well established in New York (at least I think it was New York I saw, but he's not the story).Might be coincidental name, but I'm wondering if this is his second family. If so, I wonder if there's an ex somewhere.I'm always a little squeamish about delving into people's personal lives, but because elections aren't about who votes but rather who counts the votes (was that a Stalin quote?), I think this contract makes him a figure of public interest. I vote on these Sequoias, so it matters to me whether he's legitimate to be the source to test the security and reliability of those voting machines. I think Sequoia owes the public a better explanation as to why Gibbons, who seems to be a recovering alcoholic with personality issues, is solely suitable for Sequoia's purpose but Princeton University professors are not. It raises the question of just what is Sequoia's true purpose. I don't see reason to assume it's the same as mine, as a voter using that machine.How is someone Sequoia hires "independent," but experts from Ivy League academia that acquire a random machine to test are not "independent"? The terms "proprietary" and "independent" at this point seem to be conflicting terms. If Sequoia continues to avoid these questions, I think NJ AG Anne Milgram and Gov. Jon S. Corzine should be held accountable to explain or sue Sequoia. New Jersey's Legislature just passed a law to extend, yet again, Sequoia and others' deadline for retrofitting our machines with reliable printers that are supposed to allow every voter to verify their vote on paper. Extension would be an abomination. I expect Corzine will sign this legislation any day, if he didn't today, but there is a phone drive to persuade him to veto it.I would like to see Milgram, New Jersey's AG, order county clerks to convert every election exclusively to paper ballots and hand count votes until the technology flaws are 100% resolved.The machine companies need appropriate economic incentives, which they don't now have at the all-you-can-eat public trough buffet.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Pokey Anderson said on 3/27/2008 @ 8:07 pm PT...





So, if the above about Mr. Gibbons is true, that he used to work for Suntron, that is interesting. Suntron manufactures Hart InterCivic's eSlates. At least, they did as of a few years ago, right there in Mike's town, Sugar Land, Texas. Suntron, although headquartered in Phoenix, does have a facility in Sugar Land, Texas. It is located at Suntron Corp., Electronics, 1111 Gillingham Lane, Sugar Land, TX 77478, 281/243-5000, and has been a major employer in this suburb of Houston. Suntron is listed as an electronic manufacturer. On its website (www.suntroncorp.com), back then, it listed its areas as: Military/Aerospace

Semi-Cap Equipment

Industrial

Medical In a Hart press release back in January 2004, Hart mentions that Suntron did its manufacturing. Hart Earns Prestigious ISO 9001:2000 Certification for eSlate Electronic Voting Systems Design, Development and Manufacturing Processes

January 12, 2004

New link: http://web.archive.org/w...ress_releases.asp?id=118 Austin, TX – 1/12/2004 – Austin-based Hart InterCivic, developer of the eSlate� Electronic Voting System, recently upgraded its International Organization for Standardization (ISO) 9001 certification to the newer, more comprehensive ISO 9001:2000 certification. The new certification, which applies to Hart’s design and development process for the eSlate System, builds on the requirements of the prior versions of the ISO 9000 standards family plus other International Standards, and takes into account their best practices. Hart was awarded this updated certification at the higher standard following a stringent audit from Underwriters Laboratories (UL). Suntron Corporation of Sugar Land, Texas, Hart InterCivic’s contract manufacturer of eSlate System components, also holds the ISO 9001:2000 certification for its manufacturing process, as well as

ISO 14001 certification in recognition of their environmental management system practices. …

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 3/27/2008 @ 8:47 pm PT...





Hi Molly McCoy, your blog is showing up near the top for this story. Good job with that. I agree with you that it feels awkward to delve into the private lives. I was probably wrong to post about his alcohol problem. You are correct that there can be people with the same name. Then we can end up dragging innocent people into it. Yeah, that was Stalin with the who counts the vote quote. I am curious why he made that post asking about the touch screen machines back in 2004. I am sensing a conflict of interest with this Gibbons character. He's linked to Suntron and Hart InterCivic. It's as if this is Steven Hertzberg/ESI all over again. It seems like we have another insider from the dark side acting as an impartial good guy to the rescue. It's like having Alberto Gonzales investigating the Bush Administration. It feels like gatekeeping 101. Hertzberg actually had the gall to promote Damschroeder {sp.?} on the Democratic Underground. Now we have Gibbons with his obnoxious myspace page. I agree with you that we the people have the right to know who these people are and what qualifies them to be hired. Hey Pokey, thanks for doing the follow up. That connection stood out like a sore thumb for me too. I am late to this election integrity topic. But one thing I have been noticing a lot about some of these internet people are that they have ties to the military and other govt. groups. Mike Rivero. Hertzberg. Hal Turner was in direct contact with the FBI in a cointelpro like relationship. Markos Kos Zuniga- the CIA.

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... Savantster said on 3/27/2008 @ 9:06 pm PT...





I keep forgetting why I love BradBlog until I come back and see postings like this! Keep up the good work, Brad! I'm on the edge of giving up and just making sure my guns are well oiled. I don't see how you turn around a 50 trillion pound ship that's already 1/2 over the waterfall.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... Molly McCoy said on 3/28/2008 @ 4:55 am PT...





Socrates, Gibbons reminded me immediately of Bev Harris' memorable (to me) "This is Shawn Southworth in his office in Huntsville, Alabama." I don't see evidence of Gibbons with Suntron since 2004, and perhaps not since 2003. That last '04 SEC report he's listed on relates to stock compensation for execs in '03. His was about $70,000, and he's among execs whose salary was less than $1 million. He may well have an expertise in the area of voting machines, if he worked with the Hart contract you say Suntron had at least at one time. That's fine for Sequoia's needs, but not for the public's. Typically, "consultant" is another word for "hired gun," someone who's paid to rationalize a preordained conclusion, not to objectively investigate. My rub is that voting machines are the most public business of a democratic government. If counting my vote is going to be handled by private vendors, under our Constitution I should be not only entitled to know everything about this guy's resume, but public officials are responsible to know it as a condition of the contract and OFFER it to the public. There have to be checks and balances for anyone counting my vote. "Proprietary information" is not OK. It's not as if we don't have a choice. Direct ballots and hand counts have been successful since the first cavemen put rocks on a stump to decide who would investigate the volcano. Are most of us really too stupid not to demand better from our elected officials?

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/28/2008 @ 5:22 am PT...





So, it appears that Tom DeLay must have gave up his exterminating venture and went into raising (electronic) bugs instead. How much greener can you get? A regular voting environmentalist That is the connection between Gibbons and Mireaux then, they did the testing when he was employed at Suntron.

I'll venture to guess that UL subbed out that e slate testing to Mireaux

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/28/2008 @ 5:48 am PT...





Basically all this amounts to is that Hart, by sending the machines to be tested by Kwaidan, is the same thing as sending them back to the people who built them to be tested in a roundabout way. That is not independent testing Good find Socrates!!!

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/28/2008 @ 6:05 am PT...





I should've added 'duh, what'd we expect from these vote swipers' to my above comment Oh, and thanks Molly too for the info!!!

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/28/2008 @ 6:26 am PT...





Now my question is, is the Sequoia machine and the Hart machine built with the same sub set of parts, just stuffed into a different plastic container? Or is this just an easy way for Sequoia to get certified through the back door like Hart did

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... patricia axelrod said on 3/28/2008 @ 7:59 am PT...





SEQUOIA PIMPS ABOUND…The only consultant Sequoia will ever hire is a pimp for the voting machine industry. This has been demonstrated in the past by the company's past hire of Steven V. Freeman (not our election justice Freeman; but rather a different Freeman) who tested the Sequoia AVC Edge for the State of Nevada AFTER WYLE LABORATORY IDENTIFIED PRODUCT DEFECT AND FAILED TO CERTIFY THE MACHINE IN MAY 2004. Freeman rode to the rescue, arriving in Las Vegas, NEVADA tools ready to do his sleight of testing and certify Nevada's machines with the help of another Sequoia shill, Clark County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax. Freeman testing a small sampling of machines; hand selected by Lomax. Surprise! Surprise! The machines passed testing and Freeman certified the machines. But in a fit of conscience or perhaps just to cover his hiney FREEMAN REFUSED TO CERTIFY THE ENTIRE AVC CLASS; AND CERTFIED ONLY THE SMALL SAMPLING OF GOLDEN GOOSE MACHINES HE ACTUALLY ‘TESTED’. But that was enough for then Nevada Secretary of State Dean Heller and Sequoia executives who – with the tacit consent of the then Federal Elections Committee now morphed into the Elections Assistance Committee - thereafter deployed 1000's of AVC Edges replete with printer and unresolved product defect to every precinct in Nevada. Consequently I have demanded that Sequoia and the State of Nevada test Nevada’s voting machine systems to include not only the AVC Edge and Printer but also the WINEDS tabulator, the 400 C Optiscanner, and any other machines provided to the State of Nevada by Sequoia at a cost of $9,000,000 plus. Just as they did in Nevada, Sequoia – empowered by the blessing of the State of Nevada and my county of Washoe (NV) Registrar of Voters’, Dan Burk, - threatened retaliation against me with promises of sanctions if I in anyway impugned the company’s reputation and or hindered the sale of Sequoia Voting Machines to some other hapless State or City. Guess what? Up popped my Irish and I pro se sued Sequoia, the State of Nevada and its’ new Secretary of State, Ross Miller, Washoe County and Dan Burk, and Diebold/Premier Election Systems – the company that collaborated with Sequoia to manipulate Nevada’s list of Registered Voters with provision of the defective DIMS Voter Registration and Voters’ History System. My State and County and Sequoia and Diebold have all responded with Motions to Dismiss. Equipped with a tiny purse but a big mouth, a burning desire for accurate and honest elections and steel ovaries, I am legally outgunned with no fewer than 15 high-powered attorneys poised against me but I have not been dissuaded from pursuing litigation against these villains and my lawsuit goes on. I can only hope that New Jersey – strengthened by all of the power and money of the State – battles Sequoia with anything that it takes to ensure election justice for its’ people. They have nothing to loose but Democracy. Patricia Axelrod

775-412-5980

Reno, Nv. PS: Kudos to Brad Blog for taking them all on and never failing to fight the good fight. Check out Brad's and John Gideon's earlier report about Nevada and Sequoia and their pimp Steven Freeman.

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 3/28/2008 @ 11:46 am PT...





The Gibbons' cached myspace page leaves nothing to the imagination. He clearly made it known that he is a selfish, Karl Rove Republican. Steven Hertzberg also made things easier to understand when he made the endorsement of Damschroder at the Democratic Underground. http://www.democraticund...67628&mesg_id=467760 11. Good for Ohio Damschroder is clearly the best candidate for the job. He's one of the smartest and most capable election official in the nation. He'll do more for election transparency and accountability than anyone else in Ohio. Election reformers who are able to remain objective and non-partisan should be supportive of this positive development. Who is Matt Damschroder? http://www.politicalfrie...mp;name=Matt-Damschroder After reading Patricia's post, I sought out an appropriate BradBlog entry. https://bradblog.com/?p=5353 John Gideon made a good post. Then Floridiot made this one: John #1, what I would like to know is who originally hired all these assclowns in the first place, like who hired Freeman to the SOS Florida office ?

Who hired Southworth ?, Lewis ?, Coggins ?, and the list goes on.

Whose payroll were they on before they slipped into the electioneering racket ?

Me thinks it was something to do with politics of the "R" persuasion.

Were they all in the military before their previous jobs ?

Maybe it was innocently a random thing (but I doubt that)

Just some shit I would like to know to find a common connection somehow. Hertzberg worked for the military. Mike Rivero worked for NASA, same as Hertzberg's Jaiku contact, Andrew Hoppin. The common denominator with these folks does appear to be the military and ties to the Republican party. My opinion is that election fraud has primarily to do with propping up the military industrial complex. How did Hertzberg, an aeronautical engineer, end up as the Director of the Election Science Institute? Why was he a prolific poster on a nutjob website called BreakForNews? Why did BreakForNews label Bev Harris as a "9/11 CIA rat?" Why was Hertzberg astroturfing for Ron Paul and something he coined Full Spectrum Liberty? Why was Hertzberg as Navari so set on debunking man-made global warming? The United States is in a legitemation crisis. All the astroturfers have left is to say to us, yeah, you figured it out, but so what, no one is listening and no one cares. Unfortunately for them, people are becoming more internet savvy. Good people are starting to figure out how to work together to get beyond all the smoke and mirrors.

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... Alex said on 3/28/2008 @ 1:40 pm PT...





Brad:

In the Hart case you refer to "qui tam" as the Latin term for fraud. Maybe Mr. Gibbons was trying to tell everyone that his "Kwaidam" consulting company was a fraud (with a bit of misspelling) from the beginning?

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 3/28/2008 @ 5:51 pm PT...





Apparently, I think you have to be a fan of The Hulk comic books/movies to figure this one out. There was a good joke in the name of The Kwaidan Corporation but you had to be a real hardcore movie buff to pick up on it. "Kwaidan" was the name of Chinese movie composed of five separate ghost stories. The Kwaidan Corporation was composed of five separate divisions that were no more than elaborate fronts or ‘ghosts’ to hide the true purpose of The Kwaidan Corporation. Link It would fit his general mien (or mein, he-he)

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... Redender said on 4/5/2008 @ 3:22 am PT...





Good job Brad great to know that we have people on thier toes so the truth can get put out to the people thanks.

Suckrates also good jon except I take issue with two things you said . One is that you said that you do not like looking into peoples private lives now come on you know you do and not just the one person but also thier family members. Please be honest when posting here about that sort of thing because there is so much proff of you not having one problem with posting about people and thier families at many sites so please if you want people to be hinestthen youshould hold yourself to that standard also. Need I show proff of this ? My second problem with your posts is that you lumped Mike Rivero into your group of people working with the fbi cointro pol. Now unless you can show proff of Mike Rivero having been involved in any of this you need to retract what you say or put up the proff . This is called cybersmearing and it is not a honest thing to do . Please stop this so a great dialog can go on without your inunendos and your down right dishonesty. Other then that good posts everyone.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 4/5/2008 @ 11:32 am PT...





#32 broke rules here. Who spells proof as proff? I won't be silenced by transparent spooks who throw around the ad hominems. Mike Rivero is a disinfo pig. He used to do work for The Special Forces Underground. I won't be silenced by you Ender and your pack of trolls.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... Redender said on 4/5/2008 @ 4:37 pm PT...





# 33 Please show proof of Mike Rivero being in the fbi as you have stated . Other then he owns and runs a website that you dont like and he openly talks about his work with NASA you have only insinuations . Just because you dont like this man does not give you the right to smear his name with no proof of what you are accusing him of. By the way that is defamation !

You also evade the fact that you post at many forums ,blogs etc. all about peoples personal lives along with thier families including pictures of them .Lets also not forget that you post thier IP numbers along with thier addresses.

I strongly suggest you put up or shut up because I know you are 100 % wrong about Mike Rivero and I

have so much proof of you attacking people and thier families all over the net and even at your CT site . Stop being such a liar Sock

By the way the name is Redender call me such.

What is your agenda here at this blog ? Is it to ruin it as you have others ? Or is it you are PAID

to spout your aganda ?

Could that be to use this blog to smear people and lie about them like Mike Rivero ? YES That is just the begining for you .

Like I am telling you if you can not prove what you say then stop this game of yours .I dont think

the nice people here want to be lied to they are looking to help this country and others but cant if there are lies smeared all over . I think Brad works very hard to make sure there is the truth here .STOP YOUR LIES NOW !

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 4/6/2008 @ 11:20 am PT...





Ender said: # 33 Please show proof of Mike Rivero being in the fbi as you have stated . I never wrote that Mike Rivero is in the FBI. I am getting attacked at BradBlog quite a bit lately. People might be curious as to why. It's Not About Israel/Zion/Jews, says Rivero? Agent99, please put a stop to the attacks against me on BradBlog. It's not fair.

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... Redender said on 4/6/2008 @ 3:33 pm PT...

