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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/30/2008 @ 1:15 pm PT...





This just wasn't little ol' Mighty Thor Hearne, this was a Corporate (read Republican, Fascist) campaign to stifle the poor and elderly from voting period. Link

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... 72dawg said on 4/30/2008 @ 3:12 pm PT...





It's bought and paid for.

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... oneguy said on 4/30/2008 @ 3:15 pm PT...





Everyone knows that the poor and elderly smell like cabbage! Really, who wants that in their voting place? Ya know Paula Abdul said something

Britany Spears is doing something

And Paris Hilton is doing nothing, what more do you want?

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 4/30/2008 @ 4:26 pm PT...





Wonder why noone besides Raw Story wants to do an expose of the world class hackers who have infiltrated the GOP? One such hacker is a chair down in Brad's area and is a California treasurer of the party (remember the Washington DC dude who stole them blind?).

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 4/30/2008 @ 5:12 pm PT...





Question for Clint Curtis:

IS TOM FEENEY responsible for placing world class hackers as leaders in the GOP so the 2008 election can be hacked from abroad? The story of a hacker criminal in the GOP is even on DIGG now. I know kos and MSM types are afraid of this story, because the cabal the dude is a member of can bring down any website anywhere anytime they want to. But Brad, you say on your site as it comes up "UNAFRAID". This hacker is from your neck of the woods and is in your face. Are you afraid to run with the biggest hack story never told? Bradbloggers like myself would see that as so kos. Read my post and hey everyone, spread the news around so these guys can't scrub it.

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 4/30/2008 @ 9:05 pm PT...





Here's the link to The Raw Story article: http://rawstory.com/news..._international_0425.html No way Bush won either of those elections. When I get the chance, I want to look more into this Mark Lindeman guy posting at Democratic Underground as OnTheOtherHand. There is strength in numbers. Good lurkers, don't be scared. Help out.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 4/30/2008 @ 9:34 pm PT...





Hey Mark Lindeman, we know you devote tons of hours reading and posting on election integrity message boards. HudsonValleyMark {sp?} at Dkos. OnTheOtherHand at Democratic Underground. Don't you have students to help out? Don't you need to write some books to get tenured? Who the *#$@ do you work for other than Bard College? You have overstepped your boundaries. It is time for you to be exposed. I saw you in two videos. One, somehow you were on a panel discussing global warming, explaining how it is so exciting. On the other, you were talking about annoying citizens who get on hobby horses. How do I know you are spending an abnormal amount of time on these message boards. The other day you dug into Brad for not realising who you are at DU. You ripped into him for making the same mistake he did with Dana Houle, DHinMi or something at the DailyCIAKos. Mark Lindeman wrote a peper with a known rightwinger Rick Brady, yet he is posting at a democratic website. He can get fairly mean towards other posters, yet never gets his arse banned. Same friggen thing happens a lot. Maybe you have Skinner in your back pocket? A google search for OnTheOtherHand Democratic Underground returns 13,000 hits. OTOH DU You should have gone away when you had the chance. Same with your buddy Febble, an Elisabeth Liddle out of England. Now wtf is she doing on the DU? OnTheOtherHand Is Professor Mark Lindeman. He appears to be a tool for the status quo. Students, professors, union leaders, peace groups, extra-governmental organisations, etc., it is time for you to step up to the plate. It is time we take a lesson from the French and start ramping up the protests. How long has it been since Murtha said we needed to get the #$@& out of Iraq. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH the people united will never be defeated

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 4/30/2008 @ 10:51 pm PT...





Hi Brad and blog,

Thank you for this newsworthy election coverage and once again exposing a US mass media monopoly owned by a criminal self serving corporation (that doesn't represent the people) and told what to say by the greedy, murderous, lying, treasonous, loser pirates known as the bushit administration. They think they invented the book on piracy and have their police state ready to go however these investment banker/oil barons are gonna be sorry for only watching their bottom line soon enough. No press required.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 4/30/2008 @ 11:13 pm PT...





Hi Mark Lindeman, OnTheOtherHand at Democratic Underground. How are you doing? Hey, I found one of those auditing planning committee panels you worked on. Are you still close with Matt Damschroeder, your fellow panelist from the following? http://electionaudits.or.../files/Summit%20Bios.pdf html format Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like this panel was all about going forward with electronic voting machines. Am I mistaken, Mr. Lindeman? excerpt: Kim Alexander is president and founder of the California Voter Foundation (CVF), a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to advancing the responsible use of technology in the democratic process.... Matthew Damschroder was named Director of the Franklin County Board of Elections in June 2003...Matt was Executive Director of the Franklin County Republican Party... Susan Gill...She served as the association's treasurer, secretary, vice president and president-elect as well as chairing the Education & Training, GOTV (Get Out the Vote) Committees. Susan is currently serving as Chair of the Rules Committee. She served on the Florida State Help

America Vote Act Planning Committee.... Joseph Lorenzo Hall is a Ph.D. candidate at the University of California, Berkeley School of Information working under information law professors Pamela Samuelson and Deirdre Mulligan. Mr. Hall's academic focus is on mechanisms that promote transparency, as core functions of our government go digital. His Ph.D. thesis uses

electronic voting as a critical case study in digital transparency..... Candice Hoke is the founding Director of the Center for Election Integrity. She has served as a team leader of the California TTBR Diebold Documentation Review team, a member of the investigatory Cuyahoga Election Review Panel, and Project Director of the Public Monitor of Cuyahoga Election Reform.... Douglas A. Kellner...When he was first appointed to the New York City Board, he was the very first election official to call for a voter verifiable paper audit trail for electronic voting machines, a principle now enshrined not only in New York law, but in the election codes of a majority of the states throughout the nation. While leading the opposition to unverifiable electronic machines, Doug was instrumental in promoting

new technology for scanning absentee and provisional ballots...... Mark Lindeman is an assistant professor of political studies at Bard College, where he teaches about American politics, especially public opinion and voting behavior. His research and teaching interests include environmental politics and deliberative research into citizens' policy preferences. He is coauthor of Public Opinion (2nd edition, Westview Press, 2004) and has written about the 2004 U.S. presidential exit poll

controversy and other concerns regarding U.S. elections..... Ronald L. Rivest is the Viterbi Professor of Computer Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and a leader of the Cryptography and Information Security research group within MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory...... Howard Stanislevic has been a computer network engineer for over 25 years in NYC working in various industries including telecommunications, airlines and advertising..... He has been studying the electronic-vote-counting issue since 2004, and has become a full-time advocate for verified elections --- not just "verifiable" ones. Stanislevic is the founder of the E-Voter Education Project, a group dedicated to the demystification of electronic voting... The whois for electionaudits.org: Verified Voting Foundation, Inc.

Registrant Name:Pam Smith

Tech Name:Edward Piou Next Post: The Election Science Institute

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 4/30/2008 @ 11:32 pm PT...





I believe that Lindeman wrote a paper with Republican Rick Brady which backed the "work" of the Election Science Institute. The other day, Mark, you ripped into Brad for not knowing that you are OnTheOtherHand. I didn't know you were him either, because I was tombstoned from that place for no good reason. Unlike Brad, you don't sign off your posts with your real name. So Mark, do you know Steven Hertzberg personally? Are you still in contact with Rove's buddy, Matt Damschroeder? Because maybe you could ask Steven, a "Navari" at {cough, cough, lol} "Fintan Dunne's" BreakForDisinfoNews, why he has taken his Election Science Institute off-line. Thanks in advance, OnTheOtherHand, Mr. Mark Lindeman who finds global warming so exciting. Oh, is Brad one of those annoying citizens you talk about who have hobby horses? This was from the ESI website before it was scrubbed off the internet: Votewatch Team Votewatch is fortunate to have so many dedicated Team Members, Expert Advisors, and Partner Organizations working together to make our mission a reality. Project Director

Steven Hertzberg bio Survey Research

Dr. Susan Gabbard

Patricia Hernandez

Carmen Sum

Dr. Nicole Vicinanza Technology

Yobie Benjamin - Chair, Technology Advisory Board

Chris Crownhart

Pankaj Mittal

Vikas Sachdeva Operations

Susan Brissette

Wendy Hernandez Advancement and Fundraising

Charlotte Dobbs

Marianne Gaddy

William Hertzberg

Vanessa Spilios

Art Wolf Marketing and Communications

Laura Mytels Special Consultants

Wally McGuire

Darius Anderson The Darius Anderson guy produces some interesting results. Many of the folks also come from a place called {from memory} Aguirre International. I personally do not have as much time anymore to do the amateur sleuthing. Good lurkers, your help is needed. The link to the above was:

http://www.electionscien...org/about/votewatch_team wayback machine link So Mark, tell us how you really feel about the electronic voting machines. Have you ever received money from an electronic machine company or advocate? What else are you hiding from the general populace as OnTheOtherHand other than your real name? Seriously, how do you find so much time to read and post on the internet? Don't you have students to help and books to write, etc.? Have you ever voted Republican? Do you now regret piling it on at DemocraticUnderground, so nobodies like me start snooping into your past connections? Disclaimer: I first learned OTOH was Prof. Mark Lindeman due to the fine work of a John Dean who posts at BradBlog and elsewhere. Hey Skinner, this last one is for you. How do you sleep at night?

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 5/1/2008 @ 1:06 am PT...





Ok. One more. I should really be getting some shut-eye. I'm smelling a lot of rats. And I know there are some folks out there who are right there seeing the same things I am. This is not "conspiracy chatter." This is called reality backed by facts. One link I found was to a Professor Freeman article wondering why folks like Liddle and Hertzberg were so involved in the election integrity movement based on their resumes. That could be for another day. But this next one, Steven Hertzberg's brother seemed to by pimping for electronic machines as early as 2001. Robert Hertzberg once ran for mayor of Los Angeles. html link http://www.csac.counties...ons/bulletin/2001_17.pdf May 17, 2001 On May 16, AB 56, by Assembly Speaker Robert Hertzberg, was placed on the Assembly Appropriation Committee’s Suspense file. This bill would require the Department of Information Technology to award grants to counties, using a 3-1 matching formula, for the purchase of updated voting systems. Specifically, it would appropriate $300 million from the State General Fund to the Department for this purpose. All counties are urged to submit letters of support to the Assembly Appropriations Committee as soon as possible I found that after seeing the following in a google search result. But this link merely pointed to the above info, it didn't include it. [PDF]

Back to Paper:A Case Study

File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML

The verified-voting movement got its start among the ...... Speaker Robert Hertzberg. (D) proposes a $300. million plan to update. voting technology. ...

www.pewcenteronthestates...oadedFiles/EB21Brief.pdf - Similar pages Right below that one: [PDF]

DRE Analysis for May 2006 Primary Cuyahoga County, Ohio

File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat

Steven Hertzberg, ESI’s founder, is an Aerospace Engineer who spent his ...... recording electronic voting machine with a voter verified paper audit trail, ...

bocc.cuyahogacounty.us/GSC/pdf/esi_cuyahoga_final.pdf - Similar pages There are tons of goodies to be found all over the internet. I'm hoping Brad can finish some of my snooping around, then both of us can go on Olbermann. :) The rat is called controlled opposition. There has been a lot of fake outrage and concern that infiltrated the election integrity movement, fairly soon after Bush was crowned King of America. True leaders like Brad were to be marginalised as being "conspiracy nutters." Fake leaders like Febble, Lindeman, Hertzberg, and David "Kelvin Mace" Allen were propped up as evokers of authority. The bottom line has been a movement to say: Electronic voting machines are here for good. Don't worry about it you democrappers and repiglinuts. I'm not sure why no one ever interacts with some of the stuff I come up with, but so be it. The only way I'll shut up is if I get banned. Hey Mark Lindeman, how's it going? {evil laugh} the people united will never be defeated

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 5/1/2008 @ 11:39 am PT...





Daily Kos, on this 5th anniversary of "mission accomplished", has some embarrasing quotes from Brian and the other twits who think they are journalists. LINK, so does Arianna. The stinch of the Amurkan MSM reaches to high heaven.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... poetryman69 said on 5/3/2008 @ 4:49 am PT...





Sorry, but illegal aliens don't have the right to vote.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 5/3/2008 @ 12:46 pm PT...





PoetryMan69 ignorantly: Sorry, but illegal aliens don't have the right to vote. That's good. Because they already don't. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it (Hint: don't work too hard, because there exists no such evidence.)

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... Cecil Asfour said on 7/10/2008 @ 4:27 pm PT...

