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LegendaryActivity: 2058Merit: 1561 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 03, 2014, 11:05:59 PM #28126 Quote from: Soepkip on May 03, 2014, 10:10:42 PM Letter to IconicExpert. From me PERSONALLY



As we all know I have been with this community basically from day one, I have personally seen it grow and I have personally become the main spokes person for BlackCoin. I am viewed as the Community Manager for one reason: Trust & Transparancy. You came to me with your press release idea, and I said: put up or shut up, you delivered. I donated.



You came up with the BlackCoin Cards. I loved it and I helped promote it heavily on all the social media accounts and places I could. It was a big success. Over 300 sold in the first batch.



You came up with the WallStreet idea. I liked it, and I asked the people that are able to fund projects like these for their opinion. Before I could get the final answer you decided to hop off IRC and a day later you just posted it on the BTC Talk thread. It went great. I donated.



From that moment on you have never contacted us again. I was pissed when you publicly attacked Gritt for a comment that was true but misread by many. He apologised to me for it, we put out the actual statement that still counts: We support the idea, we do not sponsor it and it's not from the official BlackCoin team.



You know full well where to contact me, IRC, PM on BTCTalk and I think you even have my personal e-mail. Instead of asking me what that comment was about, you wanted to go on to publicly discredit all the work we have been doing for months.



Next you go and claim that idea's, that were from other users, were yours and successful because of you. I find it curious that you claim that VoS was your effort, and when I simply reply with definite proof it wasn't you, you can't even bring it up to make an apology.



You are the problem here in my opinion. You yourself have created this view of your persona right now. This is not 'the people from IRC' or 'the devs' bashing you. This is the community that is bashing you down. And apparently, reading your responses, you know full well that your planned 'take over' is not working. This community is so much more then this BTC Talk thread. This community is thousands of people big and they come from all sorts of channels. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and yes, a lot too from BTC Talk.



I personally am managing 40-50 people that work DAILY on making BlackCoin better. One of the reasons why we have decided to get a REAL PR firm for promoting the coin is because it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. We will be doing something unique, and the only person bashing MY EFFORTS down is you.



We showed our faces on the BlackCast. We got over 250 concurrent viewers during the stream, and a YouTube video that has been watched over 1250 times. I've gotten countless messages that people love the cast and that they trust BlackCoin so much more.



Besides, you haven't talked about the answers we gave to your questions on the BlackCast. You seem to avoid anything that we do, i have publicly stated I like your work but i'm regretting these words with every other post you make.



The same with now (again, while I write this post up) the threats against the whole team that has worked so hard to make BlackCoin possible. It is so counter productive. Just go do your cards, go do your WallStreet event. This is not, and has never been some sort of competition/contest. You seem to want to make it one. For what reason I don't know.



Oh, and by the way, while I have been working 16 hours a day, for the last 60 days, i have donated to projects that others had. You seem to be such a rich and successful guy. Congrats. Why don't you come out and put up 2500$ for your WallStreet idea. We have an idea and come with 15000$ in hand.



We don't know if the PR firm will be an success. We don't know if Wall Street will be an success. We haven't bashed your plans, you seem to want to bash us at every chance you get.



Respect is not gained here by yelling. Respect is not gained here by the person with the biggest ego. Respect is earned by the person that delivers.











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About the foundation: We will address all this in the upcoming week. We are still forming everything and I also want to point to this article we have released on the 28th of March -

---------About the foundation: We will address all this in the upcoming week. We are still forming everything and I also want to point to this article we have released on the 28th of March - http://www.blackcoin.co/update-2/formation-of-the-blackcoin-foundation/

Good post Soepkip



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Hero MemberActivity: 686Merit: 503 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 03, 2014, 11:18:49 PM #28128 Quote from: Soepkip on May 03, 2014, 10:10:42 PM Letter to IconicExpert. From me PERSONALLY



As we all know I have been with this community basically from day one, I have personally seen it grow and I have personally become the main spokes person for BlackCoin. I am viewed as the Community Manager for one reason: Trust & Transparancy. You came to me with your press release idea, and I said: put up or shut up, you delivered. I donated.



You came up with the BlackCoin Cards. I loved it and I helped promote it heavily on all the social media accounts and places I could. It was a big success. Over 300 sold in the first batch.



You came up with the WallStreet idea. I liked it, and I asked the people that are able to fund projects like these for their opinion. Before I could get the final answer you decided to hop off IRC and a day later you just posted it on the BTC Talk thread. It went great. I donated.



From that moment on you have never contacted us again. I was pissed when you publicly attacked Gritt for a comment that was true but misread by many. He apologised to me for it, we put out the actual statement that still counts: We support the idea, we do not sponsor it and it's not from the official BlackCoin team.



You know full well where to contact me, IRC, PM on BTCTalk and I think you even have my personal e-mail. Instead of asking me what that comment was about, you wanted to go on to publicly discredit all the work we have been doing for months.



Next you go and claim that idea's, that were from other users, were yours and successful because of you. I find it curious that you claim that VoS was your effort, and when I simply reply with definite proof it wasn't you, you can't even bring it up to make an apology.



You are the problem here in my opinion. You yourself have created this view of your persona right now. This is not 'the people from IRC' or 'the devs' bashing you. This is the community that is bashing you down. And apparently, reading your responses, you know full well that your planned 'take over' is not working. This community is so much more then this BTC Talk thread. This community is thousands of people big and they come from all sorts of channels. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and yes, a lot too from BTC Talk.



I personally am managing 40-50 people that work DAILY on making BlackCoin better. One of the reasons why we have decided to get a REAL PR firm for promoting the coin is because it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. We will be doing something unique, and the only person bashing MY EFFORTS down is you.



We showed our faces on the BlackCast. We got over 250 concurrent viewers during the stream, and a YouTube video that has been watched over 1250 times. I've gotten countless messages that people love the cast and that they trust BlackCoin so much more.



Besides, you haven't talked about the answers we gave to your questions on the BlackCast. You seem to avoid anything that we do, i have publicly stated I like your work but i'm regretting these words with every other post you make.



The same with now (again, while I write this post up) the threats against the whole team that has worked so hard to make BlackCoin possible. It is so counter productive. Just go do your cards, go do your WallStreet event. This is not, and has never been some sort of competition/contest. You seem to want to make it one. For what reason I don't know.



Oh, and by the way, while I have been working 16 hours a day, for the last 60 days, i have donated to projects that others had. You seem to be such a rich and successful guy. Congrats. Why don't you come out and put up 2500$ for your WallStreet idea. We have an idea and come with 15000$ in hand.



We don't know if the PR firm will be an success. We don't know if Wall Street will be an success. We haven't bashed your plans, you seem to want to bash us at every chance you get.



Respect is not gained here by yelling. Respect is not gained here by the person with the biggest ego. Respect is earned by the person that delivers.











---------

About the foundation: We will address all this in the upcoming week. We are still forming everything and I also want to point to this article we have released on the 28th of March -

---------About the foundation: We will address all this in the upcoming week. We are still forming everything and I also want to point to this article we have released on the 28th of March - http://www.blackcoin.co/update-2/formation-of-the-blackcoin-foundation/

Thank You Soepkip for the hard work... Thank You Soepkip for the hard work...

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Full MemberActivity: 140Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 03, 2014, 11:25:47 PM #28129 Quote from: Soepkip on May 03, 2014, 10:10:42 PM Letter to IconicExpert. From me PERSONALLY



As we all know I have been with this community basically from day one, I have personally seen it grow and I have personally become the main spokes person for BlackCoin. I am viewed as the Community Manager for one reason: Trust & Transparancy. You came to me with your press release idea, and I said: put up or shut up, you delivered. I donated.



You came up with the BlackCoin Cards. I loved it and I helped promote it heavily on all the social media accounts and places I could. It was a big success. Over 300 sold in the first batch.



You came up with the WallStreet idea. I liked it, and I asked the people that are able to fund projects like these for their opinion. Before I could get the final answer you decided to hop off IRC and a day later you just posted it on the BTC Talk thread. It went great. I donated.



From that moment on you have never contacted us again. I was pissed when you publicly attacked Gritt for a comment that was true but misread by many. He apologised to me for it, we put out the actual statement that still counts: We support the idea, we do not sponsor it and it's not from the official BlackCoin team.



You know full well where to contact me, IRC, PM on BTCTalk and I think you even have my personal e-mail. Instead of asking me what that comment was about, you wanted to go on to publicly discredit all the work we have been doing for months.



Next you go and claim that idea's, that were from other users, were yours and successful because of you. I find it curious that you claim that VoS was your effort, and when I simply reply with definite proof it wasn't you, you can't even bring it up to make an apology.



You are the problem here in my opinion. You yourself have created this view of your persona right now. This is not 'the people from IRC' or 'the devs' bashing you. This is the community that is bashing you down. And apparently, reading your responses, you know full well that your planned 'take over' is not working. This community is so much more then this BTC Talk thread. This community is thousands of people big and they come from all sorts of channels. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and yes, a lot too from BTC Talk.



I personally am managing 40-50 people that work DAILY on making BlackCoin better. One of the reasons why we have decided to get a REAL PR firm for promoting the coin is because it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. We will be doing something unique, and the only person bashing MY EFFORTS down is you.



We showed our faces on the BlackCast. We got over 250 concurrent viewers during the stream, and a YouTube video that has been watched over 1250 times. I've gotten countless messages that people love the cast and that they trust BlackCoin so much more.



Besides, you haven't talked about the answers we gave to your questions on the BlackCast. You seem to avoid anything that we do, i have publicly stated I like your work but i'm regretting these words with every other post you make.



The same with now (again, while I write this post up) the threats against the whole team that has worked so hard to make BlackCoin possible. It is so counter productive. Just go do your cards, go do your WallStreet event. This is not, and has never been some sort of competition/contest. You seem to want to make it one. For what reason I don't know.



Oh, and by the way, while I have been working 16 hours a day, for the last 60 days, i have donated to projects that others had. You seem to be such a rich and successful guy. Congrats. Why don't you come out and put up 2500$ for your WallStreet idea. We have an idea and come with 15000$ in hand.



We don't know if the PR firm will be an success. We don't know if Wall Street will be an success. We haven't bashed your plans, you seem to want to bash us at every chance you get.



Respect is not gained here by yelling. Respect is not gained here by the person with the biggest ego. Respect is earned by the person that delivers.











---------

About the foundation: We will address all this in the upcoming week. We are still forming everything and I also want to point to this article we have released on the 28th of March -

---------About the foundation: We will address all this in the upcoming week. We are still forming everything and I also want to point to this article we have released on the 28th of March - http://www.blackcoin.co/update-2/formation-of-the-blackcoin-foundation/

I still don't understand why you don't sponsor the Wall Street event.



Is it because what? You are jealous? You feel you don't control it and so you feel uncomfortable?



Is it because you don't get the credits?



I honestly think that if you had supported, ENDORSED and SPONSORED this event since the beginning there wouldn't be the problems we have now in here.



(When I mean you, I don't mean just you, but also the rest of the guys in the official team)



"Before I could get the final answer you decided to hop off IRC and a day later you just posted it on the BTC Talk thread. It went great."



The reason you seem to give is that instead of him keep talking with you behind the scenes he exposed everything to the community. WITH TRANSPARENCY.



And then you say:



"I am viewed as the Community Manager for one reason: Trust & Transparancy."







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy I still don't understand why you don't sponsor the Wall Street event.Is it because what? You are jealous? You feel you don't control it and so you feel uncomfortable?Is it because you don't get the credits?I honestly think that if you had supported, ENDORSED and SPONSORED this event since the beginning there wouldn't be the problems we have now in here.(When I mean you, I don't mean just you, but also the rest of the guys in the official team)The reason you seem to give is that instead of him keep talking with you behind the scenes he exposed everything to the community. WITH TRANSPARENCY.And then you say:

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Sr. MemberActivity: 407Merit: 250 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 03, 2014, 11:28:33 PM #28130 Quote from: LawBC on May 03, 2014, 11:27:10 PM Quote from: IconicExpert on April 29, 2014, 01:38:08 PM



BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street



This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.



I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!



So what is the big idea?



We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.



Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.



1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.



2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.



3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.



4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished, everything is in place for the main event.



What will the main event accomplish?



This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.



a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!



b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.



c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.



What is needed to make this a success?



Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)

50 Girls for 2 hours

50 T-Shirts

Water For Girls

1000 Cards + Retail Packaging

1000 Sell Sheets

Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc



Total budget: $9540

Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.





Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.



Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!



This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream . We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.



To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.





Below is the donation address (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.





BC Contribution Address: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP



As suggested I have added other coin addresses:



BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4

LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ

DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT







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It will have huge impact worldwide and will cause free press...

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Full MemberActivity: 196Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 04, 2014, 12:01:37 AM #28133 Quote from: KrokieRocks on May 03, 2014, 04:27:12 PM I spoke with some friends a BTCTalk who are mods, and I finally figured out why IconicExpert used an indian IP.





The following names are also IconicExpert smurf accounts, if you go through the post history you can see they constantly vigorously defend IE, while using the exact same writing style over and over and over (big font, bolds and red text that only he uses.)



ziploc

coinpredator



Both ziploc and coinpredator are smurfed accounts, the reason he was sitting behind an indian IP was because if you whois that IP it's a proxy service, to let him switch accounts and remain anonymous, but he forgot to switch his IP a few times, and so a mode was able to really easily call him out.

Also those two accounts only ever post when IE is posting.





Thought this is just too delicious and juicy not to share.



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Full MemberActivity: 250Merit: 105 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 04, 2014, 12:03:02 AM #28134 Soepkip-I don't know who the 'Foundation' consists of or how you came to be (forgive me for being ignorant as I'm relatively new), but I think your PR Firm idea is great, foraying into unchartered territory that could have short or long term ramifications. Please note that some of us have undertaken some PR initiatives this past week (IE-LinkedIn, Pinterest, Instagram) and I think the services of this PR firm can be more selective and therefore, more cost-efficient. I'm always weighing cost vs. reward and there are extremely talented people on this forum that would freely lend their services, no obligations. I will express my concern that if a 'Foundation' were to exist, it should naturally consist of just the creator(s)/developer(s) of BC (which would need to be proven)or else, they would need to be elected democratically by the community or else it would be viewed as self-proclaimed and therefore, illegitimate. If I'm wrong or don't have all my facts straight, please let me know. I know you've done plenty and you're respected by many.



Iconic-You don't need to defend yourself against counterproductive posts. Even if trivial to some, your drive and efforts far outweighs the useless feedback of some, who've done nothing other than to type on a keyboard. Keep up with your efforts, you have the support of most.



Krokie-It's strongly suggested that you shouldn't start your first few posts on this forum by attacking others, you will display no honor and credibility when everyone can refer to all your past posts. Please respect those that have been here from the beginning, despite your reservations).



I also ask that the 'BURN' memes stop being posted. It is unprofessional and instigation that only serves as a factor to keep others wary of investing in BC. If you actually care about your holdings, you'll take that into consideration. If you're a waste of space, we'll know soon enough.



I'm by no means anyone special or a defender or anyone or anything. I'm a believer of BC, I believe that that the sum of our parts far outweigh the negative energy of a few. Let me reiterate that we are the BC community. Project Wall St and Project PR Firm should be viewed as a two pronged approach. There should be no bipartisan politics or meaningless competition. They should work in unison and is towards a common cause. I think some of us are missing the BIG PICTURE. Donate to which you see fit or donate to both if you're a true BC believer. We will make mistakes, but we will learn together. Let's continue to take dreams to fruition.



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Full MemberActivity: 196Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 04, 2014, 12:12:00 AM #28137 Quote from: troiste on May 03, 2014, 11:25:47 PM

I still don't understand why you don't sponsor the Wall Street event.



Is it because what? You are jealous? You feel you don't control it and so you feel uncomfortable?



Is it because you don't get the credits?



I honestly think that if you had supported, ENDORSED and SPONSORED this event since the beginning there wouldn't be the problems we have now in here.



(When I mean you, I don't mean just you, but also the rest of the guys in the official team)



"Before I could get the final answer you decided to hop off IRC and a day later you just posted it on the BTC Talk thread. It went great."



The reason you seem to give is that instead of him keep talking with you behind the scenes he exposed everything to the community. WITH TRANSPARENCY.



And then you say:



"I am viewed as the Community Manager for one reason: Trust & Transparancy."







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

I still don't understand why you don't sponsor the Wall Street event.Is it because what? You are jealous? You feel you don't control it and so you feel uncomfortable?Is it because you don't get the credits?I honestly think that if you had supported, ENDORSED and SPONSORED this event since the beginning there wouldn't be the problems we have now in here.(When I mean you, I don't mean just you, but also the rest of the guys in the official team)The reason you seem to give is that instead of him keep talking with you behind the scenes he exposed everything to the community. WITH TRANSPARENCY.And then you say:

Still much hate and spite here... I've given up trolling, can't we just move on? Still much hate and spite here... I've given up trolling, can't we just move on?