For our first discussion on God Emperor of Dune, Todd and Kenn welcome Jack Butler back to the Legendarium. Jack was previously on episode 220 (a Silmarillion episode) but now he returns to establish his sci-fi bona fides as well his fantasy ones. This is our first of two discussions on the fourth book in Frank Herbert’s Dune series, and we hope you enjoy it.

Hear more of Jack on the Young Americans podcast

MUSIC: “Adventure Time” and “The Seven Seas” courtesy of Philter.no