shmerl

join:2013-10-21 930.5 953.2

1 recommendation shmerl Member Actions are better than words If they want to target Internet audience, let them move forward with something that actually serves it. For instance, where is IPv6? And some clear timeline for DOCSIS 3.1 rollout and planned bandwidth boosting would also encourage people to stay. WiFi hotspots? I don't find those a major attraction point.



Evergreener

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join:2001-02-20

Evergreen, CO 1 recommendation Evergreener Member Re: Actions are better than words How would you propose pitching IPv6 support as a way to woo the typical HSD subscriber away from competing services?

shmerl

join:2013-10-21 1 recommendation shmerl Member Re: Actions are better than words Describe the problem and say they are ahead of competition in addressing it. Enough people understand it well.



n2jtx

join:2001-01-13

Glen Head, NY n2jtx Member Pricing The last few years have seen the company aggressively raising rates, without keeping pace with speed upgrades in the fashion its reputation was built upon nearly a decade ago. When I signed up for OOL back in August 2001 (bought my SB4100 at The Wiz), OOL was the envy of just about everyone else in the U.S. Monthly cost was $39.95 on a one year contract. Half way through the contract, they raised the price to $49.95 but I was protected until my contract was up. Back then the speeds were 10/1. Later on they bumped them to 10/2 and eventually the 18/5 we have now. However, since 2012, they raised the price first to $54.95 and then $59.95. The speed has never increased. When I signed up for OOL back in August 2001 (bought my SB4100 at The Wiz), OOL was the envy of just about everyone else in the U.S. Monthly cost was $39.95 on a one year contract. Half way through the contract, they raised the price to $49.95 but I was protected until my contract was up. Back then the speeds were 10/1. Later on they bumped them to 10/2 and eventually the 18/5 we have now. However, since 2012, they raised the price first to $54.95 and then $59.95. The speed has never increased.



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf Member Re: Pricing - $24.95 available for Cablevision Internet service Cablevision is now offering (as one of their recent "cord cutting" packages) internet service for $24.95/month. I'm not aware of any other cable or phone company having a general non-promotional pricing plan this low. It offers their new speed tier of 5/1. There is also a $4.95/month modem rental fee that can be avoided by purchasing your own modem.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24

Brooklyn, NY tmc8080 Member Re: Pricing - $24.95 available for Cablevision Internet service Did they drop the price.. last advertisements I saw was for $34.90.. unless they ARE dropping the price $10 for new customers?



The shoe many customters are waiting for is the speed bumps to ALL the tiers.. just about EVERY cable company is doing this in lieu of the docsis 3.1 upgrades!



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf Member Re: Pricing - $24.95 available for Cablevision Internet service $34.90 includes their new Freewheel WiFi phone service for $9.95. They package it together with their cord cutting 5/1 internet service. But you're not required to maintain the Freewheel service. Without it the effective price is $24.95.



Elite

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join:2002-10-03

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Re: Pricing said by n2jtx: The speed has never increased.



Secondly, swing by our OOL forum. People have been rebooting their modems on the 15/5 tier and getting about 30Mbit down, 5 up. There seems to be a speed boost to the basic tier currently being rolled out. Wrong. The 15/5 tier was over-provisioned to about 22/5 for quite some time... then they scaled it back to 18Mbit down. It's still technically over-provisioned, as are all their tiers.Secondly, swing by our OOL forum. People have been rebooting their modems on the 15/5 tier and getting about 30Mbit down, 5 up. There seems to be a speed boost to the basic tier currently being rolled out.



n2jtx

join:2001-01-13

Glen Head, NY n2jtx Member Re: Pricing I'm on the Woodbury system. Speedtest.net reports 18/5 (actually more like 17/4.5 but the line has a bit of traffic on it). Power cycled the TM822 and it is now reporting 28.39/5. So apparently they have boosted the speed here too but I've seen nothing in the bill yet about it. Glad to see they are getting ahead of the curve.



MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11

Cherry Hill, NJ MovieLover76 to Elite

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My account is over provisioned I have the second level 50 / 25 plan and I consistently get 58-60 / 29. I have no real complaints with cablevision internet, their TV sucks which is why I didn't subscribe to it.



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf to n2jtx

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The 15/5 tier is currently in the process of officially being upgraded to 25/25 across the Cablevision networks.

digitaldoc77

join:2008-04-20

Oyster Bay, NY digitaldoc77 Member Re: Pricing While the download speeds seem to be increasing to 25, and with a little overprovisioning folks are getting 28 or so, I doubt that the upload speeds are going to increase to 25 as well as none of the Optimum speed tiers are symmetrical. In addition, the FCC new definition of broadband is 25/3, and Optimum's standard connection of 25/5 would already have exceeded the minimum on the upload speed.



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf Member Re: Pricing Cablevision has just started upgrading all their speed tiers. Only 25 is symmetrical. Their new 50, 75 and 101 tiers all have 35 for the upstream. These new speeds have rolled out in parts of NYC and perhaps other areas they service. The rest are going to be upgraded soon after.



thinkpad

join:2000-07-26

Stamford, CT thinkpad Member Re: Pricing Please post proof of this symmetrical speed.

digitaldoc77

join:2008-04-20

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They only mention the downstream increase in that article. Any link to this? This is the first time I have heard anything about this, and while fiber is frequently symmetrical, cable connections are generally not.They only mention the downstream increase in that article.



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf Member Re: Pricing Call customer service. Last week I was told of this change being rolled out.



thinkpad

join:2000-07-26

Stamford, CT thinkpad Member Re: Pricing I would still like to see it in writing



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf Member Re: Pricing My mistake. They only upgraded the download speed.



norm

join:2012-10-18

Pittsburgh, PA 1 recommendation norm Member Reasonably priced and reasonably ran I want a reasonably priced reasonably ran ISP. Yes, 1 Gbit would be fine but I'd gladly take 100 Mbit if:



- The price was reasonable

- The last mile was in good shape

- And the peering edge was ran well instead of into the ground



As a current VZ FiOS customer, I can say that only one of those three criteria are met.

elefante72

join:2010-12-03

East Amherst, NY elefante72 Member Re: Reasonably priced and reasonably ran Verizon doesn't directly offer 100 yet, it's either 75 which can be normally priced or 150 which is considered an expensive premium product and requires Cat. So when TWC lights up Maxx in my area, I expect they will soften up on the 75 vs 150 or even create an intermediate tier. I don't find issues w/ the current tier since most sites can't push that anyways, so that is good for us. Streaming HD 4 people is usually less than 30, as my traff tells me.



TWC offered me 50/broadcast earlier this month for $45 for a year, which I would say is quite reasonable.



Last mile probably depends upon age of plant, and many of the issues are with original BPON, but in my area the plant in less than 5 years old, so it's pristine.



I would also say my package pricing is very reasonable for what I get, so no complaints there, and to boot Verizon service in my area is very good.



For family in Westchester, CV is cheaper than FiOS if you flip flop, but recently Verizon has become aggressive, and they either match or beat CV prices when pushed. Verizon likes to bundle TV tho...



norm

join:2012-10-18

Pittsburgh, PA 1 recommendation norm Member Re: Reasonably priced and reasonably ran I have 75/75 and bundled it's $60 but unbundled it's almost $90. It's 75/75 all day except to AWS destinations. I'm pretty sure Verizon just ignores the existence of Amazon. That's all day though. All night? I don't see advertised speeds quite a lot and it's at Verizon's edge where the issue is. Plenty of sites can easily push 100 Mbit 24/7, just not to Verizon.



Verizon can point fingers at everyone else but they're the common denominator.



atcotr

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I had to switch back to Optimum Online because Verizon was letting Netflix and YouTube traffic congest for its FiOS customers. You'd think with a "100% fiber optic" network there would be virtually no congestion, but VZ managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.



norm

join:2012-10-18

Pittsburgh, PA norm Member Re: Reasonably priced and reasonably ran said by atcotr : I had to switch back to Optimum Online because Verizon was letting Netflix and YouTube traffic congest for its FiOS customers. You'd think with a "100% fiber optic" network there would be virtually no congestion, but VZ managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.



The global finance company I won't name that I work for has been slowly ditching Verizon as our primary means of transit. Already, none of our client facing services are Verizon anymore. Verizon has the hardware but they're really tough on the peering side. A lot of hosting out there doesn't even bother with Verizon due to costs. It's cheaper for them to get Comcast transit or tier 1 transit from everybody but Verizon than it is to get Verizon transit. Considering Comcast has many more customers than Verizon, it doesn't make sense to pay more per set of eyes.The global finance company I won't name that I work for has been slowly ditching Verizon as our primary means of transit. Already, none of our client facing services are Verizon anymore.



batterup

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join:2003-02-06

Netcong, NJ batterup Premium Member FiOS. VZ did something similar by unbundling most channels. Cablevision's area is heavy with FiOS; they are just trying to keep up with their half'fast network.



DataRiker

Premium Member

join:2002-05-19

00000 DataRiker Premium Member Re: FiOS. Too bad FiOS isn't in an ATT or Google area. Both are offering Gigabit for 70 dollars in my area.



Makes Verizon fiber optics look like an epic rip off to me. What does 70 dollars get you on Fios?

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24

Brooklyn, NY tmc8080 Member Re: FiOS. Yeah-- 2003 called! They want their 100 megabit BPN back!



batterup

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said by DataRiker: Too bad FiOS isn't in an ATT or Google area. Both are offering Gigabit for 70 dollars in my area.



Makes Verizon fiber optics look like an epic rip off to me. What does 70 dollars get you on Fios? I can show you top 4000 websites that are hosted on FiOS. Show me a Googlefiber top 4000 hosted website.



DataRiker

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join:2002-05-19

00000 DataRiker Premium Member Re: FiOS. You forgot to include ATT in the deflection of the question.



ipv6movement

@pppoe.ca ipv6movement Anon Re: FiOS. said by TamaraB: I am not holding my breadth however. I would hope not, that is not possible with DOCSIS.