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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 23rd February 2010, 3:47am)

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Mon 22nd February 2010, 10:16pm)

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Mon 22nd February 2010, 10:08pm)

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Mon 22nd February 2010, 8:23pm)

Davies' explanation that the plagiarism is "accidental" and comes about when pasted passages from sources got inserted without getting the once over dusting is one of clearest examples of WP as a simulation of a scholarly activity, not the actual scholarly activity itself. This is what happen when the people who could not otherwise engage in the activity engage in the virtual activity without making any distinction.



I don't really need to be the one to point out that plenty of scholars have been caught plagiarizing. And with the advent of the Internet, it's become even easier to scan old works that were once never suspected. I'm not sure if it was your intention, but your comment makes it seem as though the issue of plagiarism is somehow (particularly) related to Wikipedia. This seems far more closely linked to general human behavior.

I don't really need to be the one to point out that plenty of scholars have been caught plagiarizing. And with the advent of the Internet, it's become even easier to scan old works that were once never suspected. I'm not sure if it was your intention, but your comment makes it seem as though the issue of plagiarism is somehow (particularly) related to Wikipedia. This seems far more closely linked to general human behavior.



My point was that this guy had no idea that appropriating the work of another person, making cosmetic changes to hide the appropriation, was itself wrong. You know that, right?

My point was that this guy had no idea that appropriating the work of another person, making cosmetic changes to hide the appropriation, was itself wrong. You know that, right?





The circle-the-wagons effect to stifle all talk of plagiarism is in full motion, despite efforts by Ironholds and Durova to point out that these are not isolated cases of "Oops, my mistake!" As usual, Arbcom and its apologists/stooges want to maintain a double standard that works very well for them but makes the rest of the web site look ridiculous to the rest of the world.



Ultimately, everybody wins. Roger keeps his worthless position (note how he first claims that he is too busy to respond, then he goes into a full-depth answering), his friends keep him in his worthless position, and those keeping track of the hypocrisy and stupidity of Arbcom (and, by extension, the full WP culture) have a Fort Knox-worthy gold reserve of evidence that confirms how Wikipedia has nothing to do with serious reference publishing and everything to do with idiot games.

The circle-the-wagons effect to stifle all talk of plagiarism is in full motion, despite efforts by Ironholds and Durova to point out that these are not isolated cases of "Oops, my mistake!" As usual, Arbcom and its apologists/stooges want to maintain a double standard that works very well for them but makes the rest of the web site look ridiculous to the rest of the world.Ultimately, everybody wins. Roger keeps his worthless position (note how he first claims that he is too busy to respond, then he goes into a full-depth answering), his friends keep him in his worthless position, and those keeping track of the hypocrisy and stupidity of Arbcom (and, by extension, the full WP culture) have a Fort Knox-worthy gold reserve of evidence that confirms how Wikipedia has nothing to do with serious reference publishing and everything to do with idiot games.

A compliment for Ironholds? Oh my



At the end of the day, ArbCom are politicians. Whatever the agendas of users, as they advance further up the "ranks" they become increasingly concerned with covering their own arse as opposed to, y'know, helping the project. A lot of admins engage in arse-covering; most 'crats, all arbs. A compliment for Ironholds? Oh myAt the end of the day, ArbCom are politicians. Whatever the agendas of users, as they advance further up the "ranks" they become increasingly concerned with covering their own arse as opposed to, y'know, helping the project. A lot of admins engage in arse-covering; most 'crats, all arbs.