Jiri



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707USA

Jiri



Posts: 707

From: USA



707USA Written by The Night Wisher on 26.10.2009 at 16:20



Written by Jiri on 26.10.2009 at 01:20



Written by The Night Wisher on 25.10.2009 at 15:46



Okay, first of all, I have to say "sorry for insulting a whole genre in this way" but to be clear I don't like black metal and I was harsh toward it by saying the F*** word ....

I am not just shitting and have nothing to do except entering threads about black metal and fuck up around, I have listened to BM albums like "Death Cult Armageddon" by Dimmu Borgir, "Nymphetamine" and "Midian" by CoF, and I enjoyed some songs, but in general I can't stand black metal.

And by the way I am not a fan of Power Metal as much as Symphonic metal, and Nightwish is true music not commercial stuff.

Who by the hell can do an album like Oceanborn in 1998 ? ain't it creativity to create such "Genre" with that album ?

Another point : Tuomas from Nightwish has put music for some BM songs done by "Darkwoods my Betrothed" and he's a fan of black metal.

for the one who said all of my favorites bands are shit : do you think that Megadeth is a shitty band ? they have the main influence on 90's death metal bands. And Epica ? the first band to have an extended use of orchestra and choir mixed with growls ? and have you listened to Nu.Clear.Dawn to judge them baby, have you listened to the Syrian Dream Theater , I guess you have to check Nu.Clear.Dawn before judging them ? and i wanna know where is the commercial elements in Saturnus songs ? please read well before saying that my favorite bands are commercial and crap.



I don't think that commercial bands would do such things...







Night Wisher, think about what you are saying. It is not universally understood that "Oceanborn" is a fantastic album. This is your opinion. A lot of people do not like it as much as you don't like "Death Cult Armageddon". Granted, Nightwish was the first "metal" band to have an operatic front-woman. But symphonic elements were being utilized far before bands like Nightwish. Guess what genre was doing that well before Nightwish. Thats right, Nightwisher, black metal. Celtic Frost, Emperor, Arcturus, Limbonic Art, Korova, Troll, and Obtained Enslavement were all black metal bands using symphonies in their music. Hell, even Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth had symphonic elements before Nightwish. Toumas, being a black metal fan, probably took the symphony idea from Emperor! He then thought it could make money by applying the symphonic elements to power metal with a female vocalist. And Epica? First to combine choirs, orchestras and death growls? Yeah right, dude! Epica reared its ugly head in 2003 for crying out loud! What about Therion, or Haggard who have been doing that since the early ninties? Get your damned facts straight, kid!



Well, Epica or you can say After Forever created a style that combines a lot of genres with symphonic elements while Therion and Haggard used to be pure death metal bands in 1990 (I can't remember) and I have the Demo of haggard which is pure death and yeah I've seen a song by Therion which has pure death metal playing , while Epica and After Forever (with Mark) combines a lot of genres (Gothic , Power , Progressive) with symphonic elements and growls ....And you didn't answer me about Nu.Clear.Dawn and Saturnus which you considered commercial ...





Night Wisher, I must agree with you on Saturnus. I listened to their myspace songs and discovered that they are a very good death doom metal band. Personally, I can't see how someone with your tastes could like something like that. I can not find a way to hear Nu.Clear.Dawn due to the fact that they do not have a myspace. I'll take your word for it. Therefore, two of your favorite bands are not commercial. And Therion released Theli in 1996 which combined choirs, orchestras, and death growls in metal way before Epica and After Forever. Haggard's first symphonic album came out in 1997. Night Wisher, I must agree with you on Saturnus. I listened to their myspace songs and discovered that they are a very good death doom metal band. Personally, I can't see how someone with your tastes could like something like that. I can not find a way to hear Nu.Clear.Dawn due to the fact that they do not have a myspace. I'll take your word for it. Therefore, two of your favorite bands are not commercial. And Therion released Theli in 1996 which combined choirs, orchestras, and death growls in metal way before Epica and After Forever. Haggard's first symphonic album came out in 1997. Loading...