Mike and Guy speak with guest Jeriah Bowser. Jeriah has spent the past decade in his career as a wilderness therapy guide and outdoor educator, as facilitating rewilding experiences for other humans has proven to be deeply meaningful and healing for his own journey. While he shies away from labels, Jeriah is strongly influenced by anti-civilization anarchism, primitivism, deep ecology, neoluddism, animal and earth liberation, anti-modernism, ecopsychology, Jungian depth psychology, radical therapy/antipsychiatry, logotherapy, animism, taoism, and wildism.

Also we discuss the National Geographic Explorer show with Guy and Bill Nye.