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"Iraq Vet Speaks Out Against VA's Voter Suppression"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Anthony Look said on 8/16/2008 @ 3:40 pm PT...



This issue should be water cooler conversation, pass it on at any opportunity.

There has to be a way to mobilize Veteran's opinions against this blatant voter suppression assault. These GOP hypocrites and white christians alike are such cowards, cheats, liars and hell bound determined to subvert, misinform and obstruct the voters will this coming election.

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... mick said on 8/16/2008 @ 4:00 pm PT...



ITs not only Vets who have a problem.

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... Kmac said on 8/17/2008 @ 8:10 am PT...



Purposely and conveniently back logged by the present administration. These machines gave them the 2004 election ... they need them in the 2008 upcoming election to stay in power.

Flaws in voting machines used by millions of people will not be fixed in time for the presidential election because of a government backlog in testing the machines’ hardware and software, officials say.

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... Paladin Must Go said on 8/17/2008 @ 8:35 am PT...



2004 OHIO ELECTION FRAUD FIX IS IN?



Brad, perhaps I missed it but why is there no mention of the following report at Brad Blog?

Ohio Secretary of State Opposes Opening Lawsuit Alleging Theft of 2004 Election

As I pointed out to you in the "Who Is My Connnell thread"...

https://bradblog.com/?p=6220

...Arnebeck's interviews with you on the Collins show as well as his interview at Vote Rescue (see that thread for links), showed that he was backing away from prior statements that the Ohio AG and Secretary of State Brunner were interested in criminally investigating 2004 Ohio Election fraud.

You disagreed.

Brad, look at the actual Motion to lift the stay, here is what Arnebeck said:

"Upon being advised in regard to the limited resources of the criminal division of the Ohio Attorney General's Office, and its preference that their be involvement begin at the point where specific targets for indictment had been identified..."

The interview Arnebeck gave and the press conference which was held subsequent to the motion being filed all made it seem as if the Ohio officials were interested in seeing Arnebeck do further discovery, but TOMORROW, according to the E Pluribus Media story quoted above, the Ohio officials are going to ask that Arnebeck's motion to lift the stay be denied:

Taking plaintiff attorney’s argument that they can resume activity in the case without disrupting the important work of state elections officials, Brunner disagreed. In his motion to oppose, Conglianese wrote: “She has limited personnel who are charged with elections administration. These individuals have already worked with her on issuing 60 new directives for 2008. They are busily working on others which will be issued before the November general election. Their attention is best served working on this instead of aiding defense counsel on charges concerning the 2004 election. Likewise, the Secretary’s statutory counsel, the Ohio Attorney General, also has limited resources. Counsel for Secretary Brunner have been busy representing their client in this Court as well as others in Franklin County. Their attention is also best served dealing with issues concerning the 2008 election and other matters of importance to the Secretary.” In closing, Coglianese said plaintiffs have “simply failed to address why it is necessary to begin litigation at this point instead of waiting three months.”

THE FIX IS IN

Here's the legal deal in full technicolor for anybody paying any attention today.

ARNEBECK'S SUIT WILL FAIL AS TO STANDING OF THE PLAINTIFFS IF IT DOES NOT PROCEEED TO JUDGMENT BEFORE THE 2008 ELECTION.

First, CIVIL RICO will NOT work in this case.

I am really shocked that as a lawyer, Arnebeck and company haven't figured that out yet. Civil Rico cases can NOT be brought UNLESS there is an injury to BUSINESS or PROPERTY.

For a a very thorough discussion about Civil Rico please see the book CIVIL RICO by Gregory P. Jospeh

This case was a civil rights case and will not survive a Motion for Summary judgment as to Civil Rico. Civil Rico is a civil case and it does not allow a civil attorney to prosecute a criminal violation as some are making it appear.

CIVIL RICO is dead here.

You must remember that a law suit requires standing. The 2006 election doesnt effect standing because plaintiffs here brought suit as to the 2004 "presidential election"...

The only relief available to plaintiffs is Court ordered relief which protects the plaintiffs from similar civil rights abuses in the 2008 Presidential Election.

ONCE THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS OVER ALL STANDING WILL BE GONE...

The same exact computer voting conditions exist today as they did in the 2004 election. It's those conditions plaintiffs are concerned with... they need to be assured their rights will not be violated again. The same players are running this election and no amount of vigilance form the Ohio AG will stop computer patches form switching votes if that is what happened in 2004.

ARNEBECK MUST REQUEST A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER FORM JUDGE MARBLEY WHICH HALTS THE USE OF THESE VOTIING SYSTEMS OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE HE MUST SEEK A TRO FOR THE 2008 ELECTION AS TO OHIO'S PARTICIPATION.

Once the election is over plainitffs will have no standing to sue. Especially if Obama wins.

Also, Arnebeck must make a motion for Judge Marbley to hold those who didnt protect ballots in CONTEMPT because the Ohio AG and SOS are NOT cooperating.

They know that plaintiffs will lose standing after this election.

TOMORROW THE OHIO AG FILES HIS MOTION TO DENY THE STAY... where is the reporting on all of this?

There's nothing about the Ohio AG requestion Arnebeck's stay be denied at the Velvet Revolution site either.

People really need to understand that the Spoon is scaring the shit out of the RNC cabal. There was a raid on Ohio Government officials by the FBI just after this. Now the Ohio AG and Brunner are backing away from Arnebeck. That FBI raid invovolved a case of "public corruption" and that's all we know.

What the hell is going on here? The Spoon is trying to do the right thing and he's the right man for the job. But without court ordered discovery nothing is going to be resolved.

Arnebeck can request that Judge Marbley compel testimony as to evidence tampering in this case. The Judge might have authority to issue an injunction demanding that the Ohio AG and SOS use their powers to investigate evidence tampering in this case. It looks like Connell got protection by the Feds assuring him this would never come to a criminal investigation.

There are many ways justice can be compelled but so far Arnebeck isn't looking at the best options.

CIVIL RICO IS A DEAD DOG WHICH CANNOT BE USED HERE