Not sure if this the right thread to post this (I assume it is because I do still want to talk about full stall in the current metagame) and I hope it's fine that I'm bumping a few months dead thread.



Today, I deleted all my full stall teams. I have a bunch of them, not much, and some of them may be a little outdated. However, I sometimes used them even though they've never really been my style. They can sometimes be hard to break through but they have problems like momentum and dealing with the likes of Starmie and others.



However, yesterday after a good run in the Smogon Tour (ruining some people's chances at playoffs... sorry for that), I ended up in semis. I used one of my favourite teams for Tour the first three rounds, ended up being paired with Twin Citiez who used the same team for the first three rounds. So I used a balance team to defeat him, then back to another offense team vs Nachos. Now, I ended up in semifinals vs Tamahome. I had no idea what team to use, I didn't want to use the same team as I used earlier as he could check replays, or someone else might (it's semis after all) and I decided to go with one of my favourite balanced teams.



Or that's what I thought at least, when I accepted the challenge I suddenly had a thought of using my 'reliable' stall team and just make safe plays to win. So in less than a second I changed the team and accepted. I immediately regretted this, of course, I've done this before and it usually cost me the match. However I decided I just had to roll with it. I made only safe plays, and within a few turns I switched my Hitmontop into a Tyranitar which turned out to be Choice Band. Stone Edge crit, ignoring Intimidate as well, and it 2HKOed. I had no way of switching into Tyranitar anymore and Starmie + Pursuit Tyranitar made it hard for me to keep up hazards to wear it down as well. I lost, of course.



I will admit, the team I selected was outdated, but I feel all "full" stall teams might be. I gotta give props to Tamahome as well, he played it out very well and I don't think I would have won either way. Regardless, this is not the first time I've made this mistake, so I deleted all my stall teams today to avoid doing this again. I'm not using full on stall again ever, in DPP at least.



So I'm interested if other people still use and like ("full") stall teams. One crit can mean a loss, one bad turn and it's very hard to turn it back around against a good opponent. At least semi stall, or defensive balanced, or however you wanna call it has a win condition of itself.



I really hope to hear that people are still using stall and beating everyone left and right, but I just don't feel it anymore. Maybe this is just a personal thing.



(Also, sorry if this is a weird post. Very feasible that I am just not good at stall, and the team I used was definitely not good/outdated.)





Related, do people still use Cradily?