You gotta meet Margaret*. I changed her name to protect her privacy. She recently emailed me to vent against Western Medicine’s push to get everyone hooked on drugs and stab kids with risky, ineffective vaccines! Interestingly enough, she has seen medicine from an angle that most people aren’t privy too.

Margaret is a pharmacist. With a Pharmacy (PharmD) degree, and over two decades working in the field of pharmacy, she’s seen firsthand how “guideline-driven” medicine has artificially forced every patient into the same clinical box, thereby hooking them on drugs. The result is that “Doctors don’t THINK anymore — they just do what they’re told, which is to put people on meds. So many people in medicine (doctors, nurses, pharmacists) don’t really question anything,” says Margaret. “They’re so busy that they just do what the ‘guidelines’ say to do, rather than look at individuals and what makes sense.”

A former employee of a major pharmaceutical company, Margaret left her job so she could spend more time with her family. At the time, she questioned her former employer’s “huge marketing budget” and now believes the marketing of drugs to the general public — along with guidelines-driven medicine — needs to stop.

“We never get the flu shot,” she adds, referring to herself and her family. “I’ve read the entire package insert and can take on anyone who tries to tell me that it is useful with just that information alone. My years in pharma taught me just how clinical trials are designed to show the planned outcome — they aren’t real studies at all.”

In a world where most parents don’t even bother READING the flu vaccine insert, Margaret is a refreshing example of a mother who takes charge.

She initially contacted me to ask: “Shane, what has been the response been to what you write about vaccines? For those of us with licenses to protect, we don’t feel very safe voicing concerns about vaccines.”

I understood completely.

Big Pharma fires anyone who speaks out. They work hard to cover up the truth.

I told Margaret what I tell everyone: The science can’t be disputed. And since my job doesnt depend on parroting the status quo, I’ve had no problems whatsoever. My four kids are all unvaccinated and are strong, healthy, and vibrant. Attending school has never been an issue, and who cares anyway, health comes first.

Curious to learn more about Margaret’s experience as a pharmacist, I asked for an interview.

She generously agreed to share more of her perspective as a pharmacist. What follows is a candid interview in which Margaret encourages parents to stop, THINK, and get a reality check when it comes to vaccinating their kids. Commenting on how vaccines are pushed — and sometimes even forced — on everyone, she says, “They’ve done a very good job of psychological indoctrination.”

She also shares her thoughts on what needs to change in mainstream medicine, and why she chose to stop vaccinating.

*Not her real name. Name changed to protect her privacy.

TPC #1: Please summarize your overall pharmacy experience and how you’ve generally worked with patients/clients.

Pharmacist: I’m a pharmacist, but not one who is into mainstream medicine. I have broad pharmacy experience, and many years working in Pharma (just like you, Shane)!

I heard the mantra, “Today’s drugs fund tomorrow’s discoveries…” but after a while, that didn’t justify the huge marketing budget in my opinion. I quit working at one of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies without a job lined up. I had my first child, and I wanted to hang out with him and figure out next steps.

I think I like retail pharmacy best, because it’s so important to talk to patients about their medications, especially people who want to make lifestyle changes to get OFF their medications. But many people prefer to take a pill rather than change.

2. Why did you choose to become a pharmacist?

Margaret: I really stumbled into it! I never thought of myself as a science person, but I took some science classes and found I liked them. Pharmacy is just more science.

3. What are you most proud of when it comes to your career?

Margaret: I’ve enjoyed helping people. Especially if people are interested in lifestyle changes to get off medications — that’s a pleasure to help them.

4. What has shocked you the most, while working as a pharmacist?

Margaret: Even in pharmacy school, my professors stressed that things would change in our careers and we had to be adaptable. Yet so many people in medicine (doctors, nurses, pharmacists) don’t really question anything. They’re so busy (the workloads are so heavy!) that they just do what the “guidelines” say to do, rather than look at individuals and what makes sense.

When I was a student, clinical pathways or guidelines were a new thing, and now they’ve become essentially law — if you don’t follow treatment guidelines with what you recommend for a patient, you can be sued. The “art” of medicine has, for all practical purposes, disappeared. Now it’s the Law of Medicine.

5. What is your biggest critique of mainstream medicine?

Margaret: Guideline-driven medicine. Most people have no idea about this and the effect on their health. It makes everyone fit into the same box, and it drives your doctor’s treatment within that box instead of individualizing it. [Everyone gets same drug, same dose.]

Doctors don’t THINK anymore — they just do what they’re told. The only guideline I think is unquestionable is the one for cardiac arrest — follow that emergency clinical pathway, for sure. Otherwise, it’s all about hooking patients on drugs.

6. Have you chosen to vaccinate anyone in your family?

Up to 6 months, yes. But not all of them. At that point, I pulled the plug on vaccines (see here why), as well as our pediatrician. Now I use religious waivers. Unfortunately, after the vaccines, one of my children became very lethargic. I had been researching them a lot up until then, and I decided to stop vaccinating. From that point on I focused on nursing and boosting immunity naturally.

Later in life, my child was allergic to virtually all nuts and sesame. It didn’t run in our family. I researched the sesame and found that the allergy is increasing in places like Asia and Israel, where most vaccines are in sesame oil.

Oils in vaccines don’t have to be labeled because they’re considered not active ingredients, and they may vary on the lot. Manufacturers break up lots of vaccines and ship them all over, so that there’s no pattern to any reactions. Unfortunately, this can lead to the onslaught of allergic reactions.

7. Do you get the flu shot?

Margaret: We never get the flu shot. I’ve read the entire package insert and can take on anyone who tries to tell me that it is useful with just that information alone.

It doesn’t work.

If you read the package insert, you’ll see that in the non-treated group, 4% got the flu. In the treatment arm, about 2% got the flu. So your risk of getting the flu is only 4% anyway. They got the 50% reduction in flu from simple math — 2% is half of 4%. But your odds of NOT getting the flu are 96%.

If you put it that way, then the shot is not very compelling, is it? But they made it sound like it was, by telling you your risk was reduced by 50% without telling you what the real odds of getting the flu were in the first place.

My years in pharma taught me just how clinical trials are designed to show the planned outcome — they aren’t real studies at all.

8. You mentioned, “My years in pharma taught me how clinical trials are designed to show the planned outcome — they aren’t real studies at all.” Can you explain what this means for the average American with respect to vaccines?

Margaret: Study design is not complicated. You have your null hypothesis, which supposes that there is no difference. And you have your hypothesis, which supposes that there IS a difference. To prove your hypothesis, you usually need such a big number of people that the study is too expensive to conduct. So they go cheap and do smaller studies that show numerical differences, but not statistically significant differences…and they run with that. All they ever need to do is show that their drug is not worse than the other drug, and they win. Then they can do a marketing spin with the data, like they have with the flu vaccine.

9. In your experience, how is the truth about vaccines being covered up?

Margaret: Studies and the lack of studies. The studies that are currently out there — even those for vaccine approvals — quite clearly show there are serious side effects. We don’t know who is most at risk, yet the uniform mandate that all these vaccines be given is forced on all of us.

People deny that there are serious side effects, and that makes me crazy because the package insert for the vaccines themselves say there are side effects! There is not one other drug where the dose is the same no matter how big the child is…and that is troubling. We should be studying why some children react badly. There are genetic differences among us that influence the efficacy or safety of other drugs…yet if you question vaccines, you’re called “Jenny McCarthy” or you’re told you don’t know the science.

But I DO know the science, and the science is not being examined at all. That’s irresponsible.

10. In your professional opinion, should ALL people be required by law to take vaccines?

Margaret: No. Unlike most other drugs that you could stop taking if you had a reaction, you can’t take back a vaccine. A person’s body is so precious, and even if he’s a total looney tunes, he has a right to say no to a drug. It’s not like saying no to breathing! And it’s not like smoking around children — that is so clearly dangerous, we all know that.

At one time, smoking was said to be helpful to athletes and was even promoted for athletic performance! The tide turned on smoking, once someone blew that whistle. There have been whistle-blowers for vaccines, yet the train for mandates keeps on going. When you look at the incidence of chronic conditions among children today, you have to ask, “Why?” Is it our food quality? Is it vaccines? Is it air and water pollution? Is it chemicals in our homes? Because we don’t know for sure, it should not be mandated.

11. What do you think about how vaccines are being pushed — and sometimes even forced — on everyone?

Margaret: They’ve done a very good job of psychological indoctrination. Most people believe vaccines have saved millions of lives from “HORRIBLE” diseases like measles, mumps, and even chickenpox. But when I ask people why they think those diseases were chosen for vaccines, as opposed to something like HIV, they have no answer. The answer is simple…making a vaccine for measles was easy. Making one for HIV is very hard. So drug development went the path of least resistance.

Then once a vaccine existed, suddenly the disease was proclaimed to be killing millions when it never did. Chickenpox is a great example. Everyone in my childhood had chickenpox and not one person I knew died or even had serious complications. By the way, the rationale for the development of the chickenpox vaccine was entirely economic — to avoid parents missing work. It was never about the disease itself being fatal. But once they had the vaccine, they then proclaimed that chickenpox was such a serious disease.

12. What is your biggest concern about vaccines and our kids today?

Margaret: We don’t know the long-term impact of what they’ve been given. We know now that there were simian viruses in the measles vaccines given in the 60s, and those simian viruses were oncogenic, meaning cancer-causing. There are also some very good animal studies that show an increase in autoimmune diseases in vaccinated primates. I worry most about the link with autoimmune diseases like MS, Rheumatoid arthritis, and lupus.

13. What would you like parents to know about vaccines?

Margaret: I think people have to stop and take a reality check. Depending on the age of your parents, ask them if they had measles, mumps, chickenpox, or pertussis. Ask them if it was really bad or if they knew anyone who died. Don’t ask about polio. (Polio, by the way, still exists today under different names, so it was not eradicated by the vaccine, and most cases of polio are not paralytic.) I asked my own parents, and they said they had all those diseases, and they really weren’t a big deal.

The best treatment for measles is vitamin A. It’s a disease that is quite mild if you have adequate vitamin A. Everyone used to know that, which is why so many kids back in the day took Cod Liver oil. Being sick sometimes is a part of life. We have to decide if we’re so terrified of ordinary diseases like measles that we would rather vaccinate against it and risk worse consequences like autoimmune diseases or cancer. I’d take measles over cancer any day.

We also need to educate parents that some of these diseases are actually MEANT to happen to children. Having some of these diseases triggers developmental processes in children. Just like a longitudinal study I saw where it was noted that children had growth spurts after they recovered from being ill. Being sick occasionally may actually be necessary for normal development.

14. What do you think needs to change in mainstream medicine?

Margaret: Stop the guidelines. Doctors are now reimbursed on their adherence to guidelines, which is why they push vaccines. They are paid less by insurance carriers if their vaccine rates decline, so they kick patients out who won’t do what they’re told to do. That’s why you should offer to pay cash (if you can) when you see your doctors so that they have less incentive to promote these things on you.

And stop allowing the marketing of drugs to the public. When that was approved, all of this craziness was unleashed. It’s been very detrimental ever since, because the media will never question something they make money from. Once they no longer make advertising money from drug companies, then the real questions will be asked. If people think the only reason any drug or vaccine was developed was to do “good,” they need to think again. Drug companies have marketing departments just like any other industry. It’s all about sales and how to convince (or force) you to take this drug, or get that vaccine.