Steevo Its not like the HBM bandwidth gave them a huge performance lead with Fury..... HBM was a bandaid to other cache issues and their proof of concept to ready them for one day integrating HBM on die without a interposer.

I don't think that's possible or at least not practical. They would have to cut way back on the amount of memory if they were to embed it in the chip.Fury had four stacks of HBM not because they needed the bandwidth, but shipping a high end card without 4 GiB of RAM wouldn't sell. Even at 4 GiB they likely lost some potential buyers. HBM2 having a lot higher density means they don't need many stacks. They lose bandwidth because of it but they make up for that by providing at least 8 GiB of VRAM.I eventually expect a GPU that has four stacks (1 TB/s, 16 GiB). It is very clear that won't be available in the initial offerings.