Terry

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TIGSource EditorLevel 10 Sub-Pixel Message Generator « on: April 15, 2008, 04:49:47 PM »



As previously promised







That should be just about legible if you're using an LCD monitor set at its highest resolution! Each letter is 1x5 pixels in size.



I've got no idea what possible use this could have, but maybe someone else out there does!



Think of the possibilities! Sub-pixel roguelikes! Sub-pixel interactive fiction! Sub-pixel DISCUSSions! I figured I should start a new topic for this rather than continue to hijack the eegra threadAs previously promised in this thread , I've put together a little program to automatically generate subpixel messages. Here's an example of it at work!That should be just about legible if you're using an LCD monitor set at its highest resolution! Each letter is 1x5 pixels in size.I've got no idea what possible use this could have, but maybe someone else out there does! Download it here . Instructions included! I've included the source code too - consider it public domain!Think of the possibilities! Sub-pixel roguelikes! Sub-pixel interactive fiction! Sub-pixel DISCUSSions! Logged http://thelettervsixtim.es | http://www.distractionware.com | http://www.twitter.com/terrycavanagh

Jrsquee Guest

Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 05:11:43 PM » Good LORD that is some massive eyestrain right there.



I didn't get it at first, but holy crap! It's like magic now that I can sorta read it. Logged

Inane

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TIGSource EditorLevel 10Arsenic for the Art Forum Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 05:40:58 PM » DAMN YOU My eyes hurt and I still can't read them.DAMN YOU Logged real art looks like the mona lisa or a halo poster and is about being old or having your wife die and sometimes the level goes in reverse

Farbs

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ManLevel 10/Farbs Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 07:04:55 PM » Quick Q:

Why the full pixel gap between characters? Did it all get too mushy otherwise? You're currently using two pixels per character (including spacing), whereas you could shrink it down to only one and a third. Logged

Hideous

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That's cool.Level 103D models are the best Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 09:13:08 PM » Yeah, that's unreadable.





Now someone go register the domain "nocrt.com" and use these to make a website CRT users can't read, with a new message every week. Logged http://hideou.se/

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AwesomesauceLevel 8♥Android Love♥ Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 09:29:54 PM » i have two monitors, and both LCD, and i was looking at it for the longest time trying to read the 'never gonna give you up' lyrics, and there were tons of unreadable bits that i just couldnt figure out. after just about giving up - just for kicks i moved it to the other screen, which is smaller (both screens are at native res) and like magic it became readable, almost like, a second line appeared on some letters... i can't explain it, but now my brain hurts. Logged

Farbs

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ManLevel 10/Farbs Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 11:07:20 PM »







The "awesome" text was almost legible under these conditions, but only after I gave it a bit black background to display against.



So who's going to be the first person to write an entire biography in their forum avatar?



EDIT: Added the following image. I'm sure everyone here understands how this works, but it's still really cool to see it up close. Nice one Terry.





I think the main problem I have with viewing these is that my red and green elements are waaaay brighter than my blue, so usually I can't see the right column of pixels at all. Multiplying the whole image by (77,80,255) in 0-255 space made it much easier for me, though obviously the actual colour would depend on your monitor and its calibration.The "awesome" text was almost legible under these conditions, but only after I gave it a bit black background to display against.So who's going to be the first person to write an entire biography in their forum avatar?EDIT: Added the following image. I'm sure everyone here understands how this works, but it's still really cool to see it up close. Nice one Terry. « Last Edit: April 15, 2008, 11:15:39 PM by Farbs » Logged

Zaphos Guest

Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #12 on: April 15, 2008, 11:56:50 PM »



I can see Farbs' version better on my monitor, for what it's worth.



(... also: now my eyes hurt) So coolI can see Farbs' version better on my monitor, for what it's worth.(... also: now my eyes hurt) Logged

Corpus Guest

Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #13 on: April 16, 2008, 11:18:14 AM »



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It wasn't very clear as black on white, so I tried the inverse:



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I'm not really sure what I think. They're certainly visible, but I'm they're not as clear as I would like them to be. I'm going to try it using 2x3 pixels instead, so that lines are more spaced out. If that works well, I might see if I can write a program that takes a monochrome image and converts it into a subpixel image :}





EDIT: Sorry if this is a thread hijack. I thought it was related. I made a crappy monochrome ship sprite using 1x3 'pixels' and redrew it to use subpixels.->It wasn't very clear as black on white, so I tried the inverse:->I'm not really sure what I think. They're certainly visible, but I'm they're not as clear as I would like them to be. I'm going to try it using 2x3 pixels instead, so that lines are more spaced out. If that works well, I might see if I can write a program that takes a monochrome image and converts it into a subpixel image :}EDIT: Sorry if this is a thread hijack. I thought it was related. Logged

Corpus Guest

Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #15 on: April 16, 2008, 11:41:33 AM » Well, it's constructed of blocks 0.333.. pixels wide and 1 pixel high. Logged

Hideous

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That's cool.Level 103D models are the best Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #16 on: April 16, 2008, 11:56:13 AM » STill doesn't uhm "feel" like it has the same effect as the text, though. Logged http://hideou.se/

Corpus Guest

Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #17 on: April 16, 2008, 12:17:03 PM » Yeah, I know what you mean. I'll have to see how it works using 0.66 x 1 instead.



Anyway. Awesome stuff, Terry! Logged

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AwesomesauceLevel 8♥Android Love♥ Re: Sub-Pixel Message Generator « Reply #18 on: April 16, 2008, 02:20:45 PM » i might try recommending what farbs did to the text for your sprite, becuase it seemed to make the text pop a lot more.



also - just in the general subject of subpixels, what if a game was coded that like, everything was displayed, including movement, in subpixels. just like a super low rez space shooter or something as proof of concept. maybe i'm crazy. but it sounds interesting. Logged