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Quote: JimSnyder Originally Posted by x2! The Seiko 9R86 in a Grand Seiko. Swiss Cosc compitition was closed to all but Swiss watchmakers after a Grand Seiko won



In 1969 Seiko produced the world's first automatic column-wheel chronograph, beating both the Breitling-led development group and Zenith-Movado to market. These chronographs were very popular with American airmen and other military units, as were the Diver watches. Sold under the Speed Timer and Seiko 5 Sports Chrono names -- among others -- they featured one or two sub dials, and had day and date guichet displays. It is these watches, the Seiko 5s, Divers and chronographs, when brought back by US servicemen serving in Vietnam, that finally introduced Seiko to the US consumer.



And it's almost impossible to find any detail about the last Observatory Chronometer competition held in Neuchatel from 1967 on, probably because Seiko destroyed the Swiss, and the competition was never held again. Girard-Perregaux won the competition with a specially constructed one off movement, and Seiko came second with a standard straight of production Grand Seiko and following years came first.



In 1971 observatory competitions in Neuchâtel were suspended indefinitely after a petition and then the threat of boycott by several prestigious Swiss wristwatch manufacturers, because Seiko had begun to dominate the results, winning two years in succession. It wasn't the arrival of quartz which brought mechanical accuracy competitions in Switzerland to an end, but IMHO losing a fair fight to Japan Seiko ..







For better or worse IMO, Seiko's are pretty rugged watches, The "Kalashnikov's of the watch world".and there is a place for them in WISdom.



The well-known workhorse Citizen Miyota movement is worthy of a mention,and Movements like the 7S26 and can easily be regulated to COSC standards with a bit of care and patience. would rate them on par,with a reputation for very long life without servicing, and extremely robust. They can also be manually wound which is irritatingly absent, in some Seiko



. Not quite true Seiko entered the compertion with just a straight off production model.Here are a couple of other relevant points relating to Seiko's development as a major player........In 1969 Seiko produced the world's first automatic column-wheel chronograph, beating both the Breitling-led development group and Zenith-Movado to market. These chronographs were very popular with American airmen and other military units, as were the Diver watches. Sold under the Speed Timer and Seiko 5 Sports Chrono names -- among others -- they featured one or two sub dials, and had day and date guichet displays. It is these watches, the Seiko 5s, Divers and chronographs, when brought back by US servicemen serving in Vietnam, that finally introduced Seiko to the US consumer.And it's almost impossible to find any detail about the last Observatory Chronometer competition held in Neuchatel from 1967 on, probably because Seiko destroyed the Swiss, and the competition was never held again. Girard-Perregaux won the competition with a specially constructed one off movement, and Seiko came second with a standard straight of production Grand Seiko and following years came first.In 1971 observatory competitions in Neuchâtel were suspended indefinitely after a petition and then the threat of boycott by several prestigious Swiss wristwatch manufacturers, because Seiko had begun to dominate the results, winning two years in succession. It wasn't the arrival of quartz which brought mechanical accuracy competitions in Switzerland to an end, but IMHO losing a fair fight to Japan Seiko ..For better or worse IMO, Seiko's are pretty rugged watches, The "Kalashnikov's of the watch world".and there is a place for them in WISdom.The well-known workhorse Citizen Miyota movement is worthy of a mention,and Movements like the 7S26 and can easily be regulated to COSC standards with a bit of care and patience. would rate them on par,with a reputation for very long life without servicing, and extremely robust. They can also be manually wound which is irritatingly absent, in some Seiko



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