Some very aggressive Battlefield fans are upset that the game includes women, or has a woman on the cover. Some of them are convinced that women didn’t exist during the past, so putting them in a game set in the past is wrong. It’s all kinda muddled. The general situation is that some gamers are upset about women existing, which is a pretty common event in gaming, but this time the anger is aimed at Battlefield 5.

What’s notable is the response of some members of the creative team behind the game.

“Battlefield V is a lot about the unseen, the untold, the unplayed,” EA chief creative officer Patrick Soderlund told Gamasutra. “The common perception is that there were no women in World War II. There were a ton of women who both fought in World War II and partook in the war.”

He goes on to state that the development team pushed for women to be included in the game — that his daughter doesn’t understand why people are upset, that both men and women want to play as women and that’s just the way gaming is these days — before he gets to the real point.

“And we don’t take any flak,” Soderlund stated. “We stand up for the cause, because I think those people who don’t understand it, well, you have two choices: either accept it or don’t buy the game. I’m fine with either or. It’s just not ok.”

This has been happening more and more lately; some of the folks behind the pop culture we enjoy are done pretending like the most toxic fans are worth keeping around.

Done with this disingenuous bullshit. You know the difference between not liking a movie and hatefully harassing a woman so bad she has to get off social media. And you know which of those two we’re talking about here. — Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) June 5, 2018

“Done with this disingenuous bullshit,” Star Wars: The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson wrote on Twitter in a response to a fan’s concern trolling. “You know the difference between not liking a movie and hatefully harassing a woman so bad she has to get off social media. And you know which of those two we’re talking about here.”

This isn’t the first time Johnson has made it clear he doesn’t have time for these people.

What we talk about when we talk about manbabies — Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) June 5, 2018

Some Star Wars fans have been playing the game where they attack the films in a sexist way only to claim that it’s unfair to call them sexist just because they’re focusing their anger on women and using sexist attacks.

Star Wars actor John Boyega is also kinda over that bullshit.

We don’t care. ‍♂️ — John Boyega (@JohnBoyega) June 12, 2018

Dan Harmon, co-creator of Rick and Morty, has made his distaste for the same sort of vocally horrible fan known. Somehow the toxic Rick and Morty fans also tend to attack women involved with the show. It’s weird how that keeps happening, huh?

“I’ve made no bones about the fact that I loathe these people,” Harmon told Entertainment Weekly in a story about the show’s women being harassed. “It fucking sucks. And the only thing I can say is if you’re lucky enough to make a show that is really good that people like, that means some bad people are going to like it too.”

It’s depressing that the angry men of Twitter are still so angry about Star Wars, video games and Rick and Morty — which have become something of an angry internet man starter kit — but it’s heartening to see so many people behind these properties make it clear that the fandom shouldn’t tolerate the worst parts of itself.

People threatening to walk away from these fandoms while they’re being horrible, only to be told that it might be better off if they actually do walk away, is a positive development.