Sorry, I know there’s been a lot of SU opinions but here’s another one. I’ll bold the relevant parts if you don’t want to read all of this. I’m not a member of the “fandom” itself, but I don’t think the Steven Universe fandom is as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. Many people compare it to other famously bad fandoms, especially bronies. The SU fandom isn’t even close to being as bad as bronies. I feel like people who say this are either being dramatic to make a point or didn’t see bronies at at their peak. I watched MLP back in 2012 (which is about when bronies practically overran the internet) and I watch Steven Universe now (when the fandom is at its peak). I’m not, nor was I even in either of the fandoms. I do, however, observe from afar. Is the SU fandom perfect? No. No fandom is, and I can see why people find it annoying. But let’s compare the things the two fandoms have done. Here’s what the SU fandom has done (from what I’ve seen): Leave fake reviews for a real motel (Keystone Motel) that a certain episode took place in. This may be immature and stupid, but I really doubt people did this maliciously in order to put the hotel out of business. It wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of the people who did it were actual children not in the fandom, but the show’s target audience.

Draw porn (Which is an issue in every fandom, but as far as porn goes, the one for SU hasn’t been too awful.)

Be overenthusiastic about the show (which as far as I’m concerned is understandable, if not a bit annoying. The show is pretty great and has good representation.)

Get angry about the Uncle Grandpa crossover. (Some people were being angry for no reason, but there were also some concerns about the type of jokes made in Uncle Grandpa not being consistent with SU’s message, and therefore being iffy for the kids watching it.)

Occasionally forgetting that they aren’t the target audience

Getting angry about people drawing Rose Quartz thin or thin people cosplaying her (while some people are assholes about this, it’s understandable they’d be protective of some of the only positive larger female representation out there right now) Now let’s talk about the things that bronies did in the peak of the show’s popularity: Send graphic death/rape threats to anyone who talked about social justice issues

Send death threats to the writers of the show for changing the voice and taking out the fan named character “Derpy Hooves”/Ditzy Doo

Throw a shit fit when a porn blog called Princess Molestia got taken down and making the girl who led to this fear for her life

Throwing hissy fits about the show not being catered towards them despite all the fan service they got (I somehow highly doubt all of the pony ass shots in the show were an accident)

Drawing extremely graphic porn, including of the show writer’s ponysona and the Make A Wish Foundation character of a young boy (yes, I realize that rule 34 applies to everything, but there is something very dirty about doing shit like that) (yes, I know some people tried to clean up google so that porn wouldn’t show up in the safe search and I respect that)

Making MLP events unsafe for the target audience

Harassing cosplayers for being nonwhite or not thin, or artists for drawing humanized fanart where the characters weren’t white, thin, and conventionally attractive

Harassing women and other minorities in the fandom

And I’m sure there’s more I’m missing, they did a lot of shit that made me cringe. Yes, I do realize there are people in the SU fandom who send death treats, and I do realize not all bronies were like that. However, from my observations, bronies were mostly adult men with a nasty sense of entitlement and a serious lack of regard for others, while the SU fandom is mostly teenage LGBT people who are excited about the representation and perhaps a bit on the immature side. Those two things are not particularly similar. You look like an idiot by acting like the two are even close to the same. Not every bad fandom is necessarily the next bronies.

takashi0 you like pointing out how bullshit this stuff is; hell, I immediately thought of you as I read this

>Send graphic death/rape threats to anyone who talked about social justice issues

1. When you say “talked about social justice issues”, do you mean ACTUALLY talking about social justice issues, or do you mean “HOW DARE YOU BE UPSET WHEN I WRONGFULLY ACCUSE THEM OF RACISM AND SEXISM AND WHATEVER ELSE BASED ON STEREOTYPES AND INFORMATION THAT’S FAULTY AND EXAGGERATED AT BEST AND COMPLETELY FUCKING MADE UP AT WORST AND THEN GET MORE UPSET WHEN I DECIDE TO INSULT YOU FOR BEING UPSET!!!”?

Oh wait, I already know the answer to that, because this is fucking tumblr, and none of you psychopaths have any sense of restraint or critical thinking/fact checking skills and then when people call you out on your bullshit, you cry crocodile tears and expect people to believe YOU’RE the victims.

2. Do you not know what a “troll” is? Those threats were sent by people deliberately trying to stir up drama and make us look bad.

>Send death threats to the writers of the show for changing the voice and taking out the fan named character “Derpy Hooves”/Ditzy Doo

Again, those were idiots trying to make us look bad.

And even if they were genuine fans, do you honestly believe the majority of us would applaud that?

Do you genuinely believe that we wouldn’t see that shit and tell them to knock it off?

You guys rallied yourselves to call out the shit going on with the keystone motel, so accusing every last member of the SU fandom of laughing at their shit jokes while someone’s business is ruined would be largely unfair.

So why is that whenever somebody from our half of the fence decideds to be an asshole, ALL 7-12 MILLION OF US ARE SUDDENLY JUST AS BAD?

Why is it that EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS INSANELY HUGE FANDOM has to be punished for the crimes of a relative handful of brainless shitstains?

Why does no one ever give a shit about what other fandoms do, but we always have to suffer from the same shit that every fandom has?

>Throw a shit fit when a porn blog called Princess Molestia got taken down and making the girl who led to this fear for her life

That girl who “Feared for her life” couldn’t go two fucking seconds WITHOUT SPEAKING A FUCKING LIE.

LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT CAME FROM HER MOUTH WAS A LIE

SHE LIED ABOUT MOLESTIA HAVING GRAPHIC RAPE WHEN IN REALITY THERE WAS ONLY A FEW IMPLICATIONS PLAYED FOR BLACK COMEDY VERY EARLY IN IT’S RUN, AND IT GOT EVEN LESS RAUNCHY AS TIME WENT ON

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING “STALKED BY BRONIES” TO MAKE HERSELF LOOK LIKE A VICTIM

SHE LIED ABOUT TRYING TO COMMIT SUICIDE TO STEAL ATTENTION AWAY FROM A YOUNG BOY WHO ACTUALLY TRIED TO DO SO

AND SHE TRIED TO HAVE SOMEBODY’S HUSBAND DEPORTED FROM THE COUNTRY BECAUSE SAID PERSON PROVIDED THE INFO PROVING HER WRONG

FOR GOD’S SAKE, SHE EVEN TRIED TO MAKE HER OWN SOFTCORE PORN BLOG AND DREW THE PONY EQUIVALENT OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY

AND THAT’S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG

NOTHING SHE SAID WAS TRUE

NOT A DAMN THING

The only reason people are trying to let this shit go now is because she finally grew a few braincells and decided to turn over a new leaf.

Which is a hell of a lot more than can be said for her psychopath followers and friends.

And we didn’t throw a shitfit over the blog itself, we threw a fit because idiots like YOU sent US death threats, called us rapists and “rape apologists” because of the damn blog despite protests to the contrary, used faulty bullshit statistics and propaganda to encourage your slander crusade, and harassed everyone who called you out on being moronic witch-hunting assholes INCLUDING ACTUAL RAPE SURVIVORS, whom YOU either completely ignored or OUTRIGHT THREATENED THEM WITH VIOLENCE AND RAPE.





>Throwing hissy fits about the show not being catered towards them despite all the fan service they got (I somehow highly doubt all of the pony ass shots in the show were an accident)

That’s limited almost exclusively to the idiots at /mlp/, and everyone in the fandom hates them because they’re basically the opposite version of you tumblr fuckers who think they’re better than everyone else but obviously aren’t.

Hell they even use the same pathetic “PANDERING TO DA BROWNIES” excuse you do.

>Drawing extremely graphic porn, including of the show writer’s ponysona and the Make A Wish Foundation character of a young boy (yes, I realize that rule 34 applies to everything, but there is something very dirty about doing shit like that) (yes, I know some people tried to clean up google so that porn wouldn’t show up in the safe search and I respect that)

Sylvain was not “a young boy”.

He was 17. He did not give a single fuck about it and actually had to get his mom to stop throwing a fit.

There was no “tidal wave of porn”, it was only two images by the same artist, who thought the character was just another background pony, and not anyone of any significance, and removed them after the fact.

>Making MLP events unsafe for the target audience

Blatantly false.

At brony-hosted event makes it a point to have the kids have top priority.

They get the front of the lines.

They get the first spots to speak with people at panels.

All porn stuff’s hidden until later hours.

And before you pull out the “B-BUT MUH PONI PRON” card or any mention of the repeatedly debunked “evul brony horror stories” that still somehow manage to spread here, I’d like to publicly remind everyone once again that

And even before then we were relatively clean with search results compared to LITERALLY EVERY OTHER FANDOM EVER.

And even if that fails you I have a simple solution:



TAKE SOME GODDAMN RESPONSIBILITY AND DON’T LET YOUR CHILDREN RUN AROUND ON THE INTERNET UNSUPERVISED YOU FUCKING MORON!

>Harassing cosplayers for being nonwhite or not thin, or artists for drawing humanized fanart where the characters weren’t white, thin, and conventionally attractive

As terrible as it is, you’re complete moron if you think that shit is condoned here OR is somehow exclusive to us.

The sad fact of life is that there are racists and assholes who worm there way into every fandom, despite all logic. All we can do is hope to drive them out, which isn’t always easy.

Again, why are we the only ones who have to be punished because of something some other asshole said when everyone seems to remember that fact for literally every other fandom?

Also it’s pretty hypocritical of an SU fan to bring that shit against us seeing as there are people in your fandom who actively harass skinny Rose Quartz cosplayers or anyone who draws her “too thin” or anyone white who cosplays as Garnet or Amethyst or draws them “wrong” EVEN THOUGH THEY’RE SPACE ROCKS WHO DON’T HAVE HUMAN RACES.

>Harassing women and other minorities in the fandom

That however straight up just does not happen.

Why don’t you actually ASK some women and minorities for their experiences in this fandom before you speak over them?

>And I’m sure there’s more I’m missing, they did a lot of shit that made me cringe.

Because that’s TOTALLY something only we do.

Let’s just ignore the superwholocks and how they ship their real life actors together and throw a goddamn tantrum whenever their ships aren’t made canon and make laughably pathetic threats against anyone who mocks them.

Let’s just pretend the homestucks were never a thing and all the shit they did didn’t happen.

Let’s just pretend the laundry list of terrible shit done by anti-bronies never happened.

You’re in the SU fandom, you of all people have absolutely no room to talk about cringy fans after all the shit your bad apples have pulled.

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