When Charlamagne Tha God woke up Friday morning to co-host his nationally syndicated radio show The Breakfast Club, his Twitter mentions notified him that Eminem had just called him out on his newly released album, Kamikaze.

"It's always cool when you get immortalized on records," Charlamagne tells Esquire.com exclusively. "I am just happy that I have gotten to the level where rappers who can actually rap say my name in records, regardless if it's a diss or not. Early in my career, I was only being dissed by Chingy. Now I'm being dissed by Eminem. Life is great."



On both "The Ringer" and "Fall," Eminem anticipates Charlamagne trashing his new tracks.

Here are the lyrics from "The Ringer":

Charlamagne gonna hate anyway

Doesn't matter what I say

Give me Donkey of the Day

What a way for 2018 to get underway

...and "Fall":

One last time for Charlemagne

If my response is late, it's just how long it takes

To hit my fuckin' radar, I'm so far away

These rappers are like Hunger Games

But Charlamagne's response may surprise Eminem.

In an interview with Esquire.com, Charlamagne shared what he really thinks about Eminem's new album, including the rapper's Trump-bashing and use of homophobic slurs against Tyler, the Creator, who has addressed his bisexuality openly on his album, Flower Boy.

Charlamagne thinks Eminem doesn't care about offending the LGBT community.

Well, here's the thing about freedom of speech, you have the freedom to say what you want, but people are free to be offended—and I'm sure they will be about this line — but he's actually quoting something Tyler said about himself. It personally didn't offend me, but I'm a Oldhead who grew up in the era where that word was freely thrown around in records and interviews.

I'm not a member of the LGBT community. I would love to hear how a hip-hop fan who's a member of the LGBT community reacts to this line, because I can't tell them not to be offended. Eminem has to understand when he calls Tyler that he's not just throwing a shot at Tyler, he's throwing a shot at millions of gay people around the globe. But I don't think he cares.



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But he's on board with Eminem using his "white privilege" to call out Trump.

I love when white people use their privilege to combat prejudice. I will never discredit his messaging, but if the actual rhyme is just OK or borderline wack, I will always call it out. But white people using their privilege to combat prejudice I think is always effective.

He thinks Eminem's political rants were more organic on this album — compared to last year.

I think he's just reflecting the times. He's an artist, artists talk about what's going on in the world. Everyone is talking about Trump, so why wouldn't Eminem? I like how he approached it on this album as opposed to the BET cypher and the Revival album. It sounded force when he did it then, like he was trying to ride the whole woke wave. I don't like Thurgood Marshall Mathers, but his Trump shots seem way more organic on this album...

And in spite of Eminem's diss, Charlamagne actually likes Kamikaze.

I actually do think Kamikaze is good. Revival was trash. That's why I don't understand why people think it's hate when someone critiques your work. In fact, Eminem probably knows deep down Revival wasn't good, and that's why he put out the Kamikaze album to let people know he still got it



He says Eminem is one of the greatest rappers of all time and a "living legend."

My thoughts on Eminem have always been that he is one of the greatest lyricists ever. I've never been a fan because I can't relate to a lot of his world views and experiences, but I acknowledge that he's one of the greatest MC's. But if he was black, he would be Redman. In 2018, he's a living legend, a rap God, an icon that will never change. His position as all those things is solidified.

Eileen Reslen I’m Eileen, the digital news reporter at Hearst Digital Media.

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