Batman fans ask a lot of questions, but there’s one that comes up more than others around here: “What if Tim Burton and Michael Keaton had made Batman Forever?” Of course, that never happened. Instead we ended up with Joel Schumacher’s miserable film, which starred Val Kilmer as Bruce Wayne, instead. The reasons for Keaton and Burton’s departure are far too numerous to get into here, but we outlined how Tim Burton’s Batman 3 became Batman Forever right here, if you’d like to read more.

Now we at least know a little bit more about what a Michael Keaton Batman 3 would have looked like, thanks to images of these models that were created early in Batman Forever‘s production.

The sculpt is by Jose Fernandez, who also sculpted Catwoman’s cowl in Batman Returns and the Robin suit in Batman and Robin. The top two images look very much like the “sonar” batsuit from Batman Forever, while the bottom photo resembles that film’s primary costume.

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