Former Mayor of New York City Rudy Giuliani said that the campaign finance violation Michael Cohen was sentenced for is “not a big crime” since no one was killed.

“Nobody got killed, nobody got robbed… This was not a big crime,” Giuliani told the Daily Beast Wednesday.

Trump’s personal lawyer mocked that the special counsel would soon go after “parking tickets that haven’t been paid.”

Giuliani has served the past few months publicly downplaying Trump’s actions related to the special counsel’s investigation into Russian collusion.

Cohen, Trump’s longtime fixer, was sentenced earlier this week to 36 months in federal prison for crimes related to the hush-money payments he made on behalf of Trump to women he engaged in affairs with years earlier.

The payments, which were made shortly before the 2016 elections, were found to be in violation of campaign finance laws because they were made in an attempt to increase Trump’s chances of winning the presidential election.

Trump says that he is innocent of any crimes because he never directed Cohen to make the payments.