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Uh huh. Yeah.



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Years were just Jamie. Welcome to stay at home. Kins. Hi, I'm Paul F. Tompkins.



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I'm Janey Hadad Tomkins.



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Married couple living in quarantine.



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I'm an actor. He's a comedian. Okay,



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We were just about to start. There's our fourth episode. We're just about to start. Janey controls zoom recorder, Zoom Not to be confused with the video app that we're all using these days. This is this is the first doom that came into our lives. And so it's a little recorder use for a lot of people using for podcasts. And Jamie asked me if I was ready. I said yes. And then she had her finger over the button and she nodded at me. Like I I said hello. She she admitted to me she had not Actually,



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I was. My nod was more like, uh, here we go. And I wanted it to be returned. And then



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oh, I said, Look like you want to have to have a little ritual.



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I don't know.



spk_1: 1:05

Where do you want it to be? Like pilots like the space program? A lot of a lot of visual cues when you can't see that everybody knows that you're fine.



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Or like, you know, like soldiers. When the er like cops when they're, like creeping right, I will listen. Sorry. This is this is like our fourth episode in, um that last one was 10 years ago. So



spk_1: 1:32

it does feel like a really long time since left Has it is we have not been sleeping well, Estrella lately We're doing this thing where we go to bed around like 10. 11. Whatever. Wake up both Think about 4 a.m.



spk_0: 1:49

Well, I wake up a 4 a.m. in regular times. That's my ritual. I have to take a medicine. Then there's a medicine I take at 4 a.m.



spk_1: 2:00

A sleeping pill, right?



spk_0: 2:01

No, it is not



spk_1: 2:04

over for you. You



spk_0: 2:05

know, I take my I think my thyroid medicine I have ah, have ah thing.



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But you just naturally wake up.



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I naturally have Thio, you know, avoid my bladder for like 4 a.m. Why? Why? That's why it's a clinical. It found



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its two political. I guess



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it's well Okay, What's your fame



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makes me think of you. It's just a jumble assistant and organs.



spk_0: 2:33

What's your face? What's my favorite? He urinate drain the little You know what



spk_1: 2:39

I guess? Go to the bathroom.



spk_0: 2:43

Okay. That covers a lot of bases. Though. I grew up



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in a household where we were not very expressive about that stuff. There was not a lot of crude language in



spk_0: 2:53

my we didn't really either.



spk_1: 2:54

Wouldn't use the word p.



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Well, they pay that, like, that's the extent you know what



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I always preferred. Like, I always prefer the cruder version of everything. If you had to say it. Really? Yeah. Like I would rather say Pissed. And P you know what you mean?



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I gotta piss. I got to take a week. I don't know. I



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gotta hit the head. That's a It's like navy.



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Okay, Like I got to go swimming in the ocean.



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I hate the word. What don't you be? Because you grew up on an island



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the U P and the like, You know, like you go to the beach. I gotta



spk_1: 3:38

go. I think I got okay, but is that something you grow up saying?



spk_0: 3:44

No. I just made it up



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because you grew up on an island. I grew up landlocked.



spk_0: 3:51

Oh, Philly's landlady. We all have that Scougall



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That's a river yet. That's not the same, though, Okay? I don't have any fun. Memories going down.



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My brother s okay. My brother lives in Philly and, uh, you know, like, kill go catfishing in the school at night.



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A very weird thing.



spk_0: 4:09

Isn't that where



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that we found out? Was that, um you know, when Jamie and I started?



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Oh, yeah. People don't know. This little trivia



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found out that her She told me her brother lived in Philadelphia. He lives on a street called Penn Street.



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My brother married a Philly gal.



spk_1: 4:28

That's right. And they live on Penn Street, which is where my father was born.



spk_0: 4:34

Yeah, my brother and sister in law lives in Germantown, and I feel like I would just gave away their dresses



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that way. We'll know. Is



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is really long, isn't it? Like a really long street like sunset or some



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joint Germantown Avenue, I think is one of the longest streets in America.



spk_0: 4:50

Well, what? Really? Yeah, well, they live on the street. You're died grew up in, but also this is weird. My sister in law grew up in Mount Airy,



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the neighborhood in Philadelphia where I grew up



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a mile from Paul. Yeah, but they did not know each other because he went to Catholic school and she was she.



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She was Protestant president now, and that's how much the the developed culture waas you know, it was divided. Was that you? I Oh, I knew exclusively Catholics.



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But isn't it weird that me and my brother married to people from the same like mile radius like, What are the odds



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now when I say Mount Airy just so people know?



spk_0: 5:39

Oh, yeah, because there was some confusion.



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I think this is all my life.



spk_0: 5:43

Oh, it iss yes, because I didn't even know about this other Mount Airy. But



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there's There's a neighborhood of Mount Airy, a neighborhood Philadelphia called Mount Areas, between Justin Helen German town. It's about it's like a 10 minute train ride outside the city. Then in the Pocono Mountains, there is a lodge called the Mount Airy Lodge.



spk_0: 6:04

Is there a Mount Airy Poconos? Or it's just called the Mount Ariel?



spk_1: 6:08

I believe it's just called the manager. Yeah, the Poconos air the Poconos. It's it's it's, you know, a mountain range or whatever. What are you



spk_0: 6:15

doing? I'm chewing, but I'm trying todo look like I was like I was dodging that. It looked like I was dodging like a bullet. Right? Look, don't try and give a signal like I was ducking under the



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table. I hope your reflexes faster.



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I don't have a lot of fast twitch muscle movement, right? Probably related to the thyroid situation with I'm at the point in the pandemic where I've developed a rash in the middle of my back from laying around on the couch so much that I had to get Paula rubs and Cal mine on my dermatitis on the couch potato dermatitis I have



spk_1: 6:55

developed. We should look up the term for it. It's not quite a bedsore.



spk_0: 7:00

Not there yet. Not there yet. Still able to get up and walk around. I mean, thankfully, we're still healthy. We've been We've been staying home. We've been physically distancing. Um, you know, it's been it's been brutal to witness what's happening in the world, which I'd never want to talk about it



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only to me



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On Lee Thio. I know I, like read all these are Oh, something happened to me that I did not like this week. I happened upon an article that have information about, like, California, like, you know, something about I don't even want a reference article. But it was like it was about the virus. And it was, you know, a study that was being done or whatever. I had sent it to friends and family saying, doesn't this sound promising or whatever came to find out through social media that it was like a missing firm? It was like a It was a piece of information being pushed by, like, some right wing dude on Rush Limbaugh. And it had been picked up by, um, like a news source. That was, um that was legitimate. And then I guess state like got flagged by people and it got taken down. So I feel duped. And I believe misinformation is a bad is a bad virus, very bullish. And I believe truce is the vaccine. What



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are you gonna run for office?



spk_0: 8:39

No, I'm being serious. Who's my room? I feel like I have now developed antibodies against fake news. I'm gonna take a minute now longer before a passenger. And then I was relieved I had not shared link on my social media because I do that sometimes when I see interesting things, but it felt bad. It felt both cores Really bad. Yeah. Yeah. And also, it makes me angry. It makes me angry that there are people, like, pushing just for for attention. I mean, I don't even understand the motivation behind why?



spk_1: 9:21

That's it. That's another very depressing topic.



spk_0: 9:24

Yeah, Yeah, yeah. How was your week? Tell it. Tell me about you. My would be doing



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my week was okay. I for for good or ill have gotten very into the game. Animal Cross,



spk_0: 9:38

that is, That is something I've noticed. I have a little bit of an addiction.



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I can't believe that I'm playing this game and I can't believe how many other people are playing this game.



spk_0: 9:50

I don't play video games. That's no judgment. I'm just saying it's just not something that's gotten into my system. So



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one of the most mortifying experiences of my life was when I was playing the game. BioShock. Okay, which involves, um you know, it's like a Ah, you are investigating this underwater city, this ruined underwater city, and periodically to buy ammo and stuff like that. You have to visit these vending machines and the vending machines all have different things that they say, like pre recorded messages. Just play when you're near them. Okay? And there's the vending machine where you buy, like you can buy food and health and ammo and stuff like that has a picture of a clown on it. And it says, please, like circus music. Welcome to



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the circus of value. Yeah. Now I've blocked us. Yeah,



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and one time, you like, walk through the room. And you did.



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I did the clown.



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You did. The clown was a pitch for



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because it was like playing over and over. And it was like, Look,



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I understand. But I was mortified.



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At least the animal, like



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broke. Oh, it broke the fourth wall.



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I ruined it



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for me.



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What? You write something for me this week? I didn't know about. You ruin something for me. You okay? So I'm on like red with my girlfriend, and you know, it's



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again Ginny and I part of multiple, very popular people.



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And that was, like so my friends at me, this video of this guy who was like, doing this character, he's like a Southern dude doing this character of like a mom, like scolding his kids. And it was edited real fast, takes, you know, and he was nailing, like the attitude he was nailing, like the say, the ISMs and stuff. And it was just really funny. Like I was thought I was really like I started sending it around. I was like, Oh my God, there's got so funny And then I sent it to Paul and then he's like, Oh, yeah, that guy is like Racists or something



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said that He's trash.



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I know that was trying to soften that. I didn't want it. That softness. I mean, I would



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go to Marseille trash.



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He's racist. Yeah, I was just trying to be like Like I thought it would be better is more factual and colorful If I was like, Oh, he's racist as opposed to He's a people,



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right, right, All right. There's a better case to be made that he's trashed in that he's racist. He



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was a He is a daddy



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went up. He went up just for laughs. Was this last



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year that was like two years ago? Because I saw the articles that you sent me were like from 20



spk_1: 12:59

OK? Yeah. So he was picked as, Ah, comic tow watch. Um, was the only white male company.



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I never heard of him. So why did



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you? You know, he's just a YouTube guy, you know? He's a YouTube community, does live performances. Apparently, I've seen clips, and it's terrible because he's not really a comedian.



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He's like an edit together. Yeah,



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he said he was one of those.



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He's like, I got this character that Yeah, yeah, it's



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a very common thing of like, I just do a quick edited video. Yes, into the camera,



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which are amusing and entertaining. Yes, some people are



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are fantastic at it.



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I enjoy that. That genre,



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yes, absolutely can be very good. Yeah, but this guy So this guy had his thing. And then he went up at this festival and he was bombing, and he started a lecture, the audience and the other comedians about what comedy is and what it should be and



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well, but it got worse because I started clicking on all the hyperlinks in that article and found out that he, like, insulted his fellow comedians. Like racially like physically physical appearance wise, but not like on stage is like good ribbing. Like we have an agreement. More like to like, Hey, you're fat or you're you know, this And I was like, Whoa, what's that all about? Like I So then I was like, Well, there goes that



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I'm sorry. Better you hear it from a honey,



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they I guess they call him, like the mayonnaise, Medea or something. Because he's like, Yeah, so and I was like, but But then, you know, I sent it to my mom, who was alone in her quarantine, and she's like, That was so funny. And I just didn't tell



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her because of me.



spk_0: 14:45

Well, because I didn't want to rob her. Or did you have



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to tell her? I just wanted to stop you before you



spk_0: 14:52

put it on like a twitter. And



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I'm the vaccine.



spk_0: 14:57

You're the truth.



spk_1: 14:58

You're Yeah. Links for the virus. And my telling you was the vaccine.



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I mean, I had a good 10 minutes with it, so I had that, and I did make me really laugh. And then and then I had to tell my girlfriends, and



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you follow up with them.



spk_0: 15:16

Yeah, well, yeah, because I was like Paul just ruined this for me. How



spk_1: 15:21

often you say that to your girlfriend?



spk_0: 15:23

Well, there I feel like there's something else. Maybe that you did ruin. Oh, I know, I know. That wasn't what Then they sent me this guy who did this grease parody, which was funny alone in his apartment. And I was like, I'm not sending this appalling case. He knows dirt on this youtuber.



spk_1: 15:40

What was the grease parody?



spk_0: 15:42

He did a thing where he's, like singing a love song in, uh, Andy Cuomo, you know?



spk_1: 15:50

So instead of San Diego's Andy,



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Andy, baby, you know what it was all about? Like information and stuff. And it was cute. It was cute. Look, among this group, I don't think this got that guy. Was is a comedian. I think that youtuber guy was just sort of a personality.



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Maybe just one off. Who



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knows what happened to the guy is what I want to know. You're still doing his Well, obviously he's doing he's still making money, because when I clicked on it and sent it and sent it around, made him like I made him, like, eight cents. Um, he had, like, a 1,000,000 views and it was pretty like for it was very fresh. He's absolutely got friends,



spk_1: 16:30

Absolutely got an audience. You know, I



spk_0: 16:33

wish I didn't know because I wish you well. I wish you hadn't done it. That's what I want. But also, I wonder what that was all about. What was that all about?



spk_1: 16:42

I'll tell you what, like



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fear or like uh, yeah, imposter syndrome are



spk_1: 16:46

I'm sure it's all of that stuff. He probably had a chip on his shoulder because, you know, he's he he's not. From what I've seen of his live performance, there's not much to it. And now he's There's a lot of pressure at a festival and especially have been named by, ah, famous industry magazine. Somebody tow watch. Then you go to this festival. There's a bunch of people. They're going to a panel with a bunch of people, and it's like clearly there's a big difference between what you doing what these people do. But he also couldn't have just been pure arrogance that he had ah, following you know, he he sees his view count probably thinks well. I'm the authority on more successful than



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any of these people. Well, sure, I mean, he's making a paycheck like he's he's generating income like independently. He's not part of ah machine or what? I mean, I don't know. I just don't understand. Like a lack of respect for your fellow comics like that, to me is like that. You know, that's against



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it because it's not a fellow comic, you know what I mean? That's that's the big difference is that there's no comedian. If you're a really comedian, I and I hate saying things like this, but I could be on a panel like that, and there could be comedians that have very different styles from what I do, and I might not even like what they do. And I might think that it's ah, really bad. But if they if they know what they're doing, like if they've been through the same you know, sort of system that I've been through and they've learned the same way that I've learned like then it comes down to, it's a difference in style. I don't agree with it, but I'm not gonna



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Well, that's not



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It's not my place to get all arrogant and say my way is the best way.



spk_0: 18:34

What's crazy, though, about the craft of comedy are about the craft, I guess of stand up maybe, um, not necessarily comedy in general, but like the craft of Stand Up is that it is. It's a craft that is learned in public. It is not. It is. It is like So you know, you might not like what someone is doing but that, like, they may just be like on Li, like, two years away from finding their voice or something like that, Absolutely. And you can



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when you've been doing it for a while, you could see people at different stages and you get it. You understand the process because you've been through it. But this guy is not a stand up comedian. He is a guy who did YouTube videos and then was trying to make money off of the popularity of YouTube videos. That's not the same thing as going to clubs and or, you know, other venues. You know, starting out as a live performer and working your way up. It's just they're just two different things,



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but that can. I mean, if you are someone who is starting like that, though, and you have like you find a character and you add it, whatever. That doesn't mean that you can't find an act out of it like it's just that he was handled poorly, like he just didn't have, like people guiding his career or like advising him.



spk_1: 19:51

No, but I didn't have anybody know. That's he's just an asshole. And the animal crossing.



spk_0: 19:58

Yes, at least like the noises that, uh, game makes is cute.



spk_1: 20:04

Yes, but I am embarrassed by the noises,



spk_0: 20:07

Woody. I think that's a strange anomaly. And I'll tell you why. Because, like you plans other game, that is like, I'll be in the other room, like doing something or whatever It's not. It sounds. It sounds like a gun range. Yeah, OK, but there's that. That's not embarrassing, but cute little.



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Here's what's embarrassing



spk_0: 20:29

eat sounds. That's like Q. It. Here's the thing.



spk_1: 20:35

It's an extremely cute game, and that is a huge part of it.



spk_0: 20:39

It's tickling your brain. It's like admitting a Sarah. It's like still absolutely yeah,



spk_1: 20:44

it's end it, it's it. It turns a corner like when I first started playing and I didn't understand why people were playing it, and then it turns a corner and then you love it. You get the hang. All of a sudden you have the hang of it. You understand what what's going on and then you love



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it. I've heard that can't happen with exercise, but that's never happened for me. And I keep dry. That happened



spk_1: 21:10

with me. Well, with Luke



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did that



spk_1: 21:13

when I used to run a at the gym. I used to run the treadmill it and loved it. I loved



spk_0: 21:18

you did.



spk_1: 21:20

Someday I'll get back to it someday. I have a long way to go before I'm able to run again. My knees might be done.



spk_0: 21:27

We could do the couch to five K thing. That's a thing that people do it like. It's like You do like an inch a day



spk_1: 21:34

that was over, that it was canceled.



spk_0: 21:35

I wonder if there's a rash on your back from the couch to five, because that is what



spk_1: 21:43

if that's how you have to start to start with a rash anyway. So animal crossing? Yeah. Do you know anything about the



spk_0: 21:50

game? No, I don't know



spk_1: 21:53

what it is. Okay, so you know what I'm doing? Okay, here's the reason. First of all The reason the noises embarrass me is because the noises when I am conscious of you being in the same room as me while those noises we're going, which



spk_0: 22:06

is happening a lot these days, it's sure okay,



spk_1: 22:12

if it sounds to me it all of a sudden. My perspective is these are the noises that they would have a video game make in a movie. Like If you saw a candidate does my name, you never see the game. You just hear the noises boy



spk_0: 22:27

are going Boop, boo!



spk_1: 22:30

That's what it sounds like to me.



spk_0: 22:31

It sounds like that it's like a murmur rings. It's like the peanuts adults kind of like Oh,



spk_1: 22:36

that's the animals from the animals talk



spk_0: 22:37

I love.



spk_1: 22:38

Here's so here's the game. Here's the game. You You go to this island, this little island, and you are welcomed to the island by this raccoon whose name is Tom, Tom Duck and Tom, like all the animals, speaks like



spk_0: 22:57

which I would if anyone out there knows the answer to this is that Are those people doing like voiceover just raw? Or is there some like computerized in handsome?



spk_1: 23:06

Exactly. Here's Here's my questions. Is it people? Actually doing that is itjust computer sounds Isn't somebody doing that? And it's another language, and they're speaking so quickly that's part of the deal. You've



spk_0: 23:20

done something with that



spk_1: 23:22

anyway. So, Tom, look, welcome to the island. Says where we think you're gonna be happy here. You get to name the island, you get to do all these these things. Then he says, Oh, wait, Here's attempt for you. We have a tent where you can live and you go and you plant your tent and everything. And he says, Oh, and there's you have to that the tent is yours, but we're giving it to you on alone. She had to pay off the loan. Oh, so it starts off with deception. Okay, you have no idea about this loan until you're like I'm everything



spk_0: 24:01

that sounds like a metaphor for America.



spk_1: 24:03

It is. This game is seems like it's for Children. And yet what you have to do is you have to work or or doing manual labor.



spk_0: 24:15

My God, about America



spk_1: 24:17

To clean the island up gift to plant trees, you have to harvest fruit. You have to fish old



spk_0: 24:23

houses for people. Government takes all your money. That's right. And then they don't help you. When you



spk_1: 24:28

go shopping, you have to build a store. Then you go shopping for stuff for your home. But it's the company. It's literally the comedy store. So this game looks like it's for kids, but it's a weird satire of late stage capitalist. Yeah, it's was weird.



spk_0: 24:42

Do they help you? If you're sick? Probably not.



spk_1: 24:44

You have to make your own medicine. They give you a recipe for medicine.



spk_0: 24:49

Animal crossing bums me out, man.



spk_1: 24:51

But it's so satisfying when you do it when you expand your house like I just I just put another room that America has paid off my loan. That's America. I'm look, by tomorrow I'll have another rumor



spk_0: 25:02

addicted to America.



spk_1: 25:04

Also, one of the things about it is things happen in real time. Okay, so when you go on the game during the day, it's daytime. When you go on at night, it's nighttime cute. You know, you buy things and they say we're going. It'll be sent to your mailbox. You don't get it really gets up



spk_0: 25:20

in your actual real life mailbox.



spk_1: 25:22

No mailbox in the game. That would be



spk_0: 25:27

no. One. Wouldn't they know everything you're doing anyway? They mansell, Millie something.



spk_1: 25:31

I don't want that shit, you know, like the decor that's in the game. There actually are a couple items. There's a retro stereo in there, really have it in my



spk_0: 25:43

day. A. Well, it does. I'm glad. Here's what is funny. And I was gonna mention on this week's podcast, which is really ties into this whole lake animal crossing. And I'm having separate conversations about we're having like, we're having lake when? Okay, So in real life, in normal life, we have our separate lives and then we have, like, our married life.



spk_1: 26:09

You have no right to ask me. I think the ground rules he's the ground rules we have agreed to. You have no right to ask me how I feel.



spk_0: 26:20

So, uh, we just sort of, like now become a microcosm of what our daily lives are where we are living in in our house all the time. But then we're together all the time, But we're not like we're separate, like we've created like and then I said this week, What if when there's a vaccine we still like this is like hurt our marriage because we have now learned that instead of coming together when we're together like we did before, we are together. But we fall into our separate universes,



spk_1: 27:02

and I don't I don't think



spk_0: 27:03

I thought was a very astute observation



spk_1: 27:06

by myself. I completely understand thinking that I get that concern, but you have to remember that once we're free to go anywhere and and, uh, as we slowly get back into normal life Mmm. We won't feel the need to be so separate when we're together.



spk_0: 27:31

Well, we will crave that thing that we missed. Right? You Look, man, let me tell you this already having a good time? Good time. I just finished. I needed it. But I mean a little. Okay, I'm gonna pop. Don't boast, but OK, so you tell the listeners First of all, do our like, do our thank you speech. I'll be right back.



spk_1: 27:59

We do have we have Ah, we do have social media. We have Ah, Twitter and Instagram. Both are stay at home kins and we have an email which I think is just a of home. Comes at gmail dot com. Is that right? Yeah. And so people have been really nice and saying things across various platforms, and we really appreciate it. And people have been been so sweet and genuine and, uh, we Yeah, we really we really appreciate it. And it's it's it's been nice to read all that stuff and know that, you know, people have had similar experiences. They're going through the same stuff and things they relate to. And, ah, weird stuff that we talked about, that they remember from when they were kids and, you know, all that sort of thing. Um, and we really appreciate it. So thank you for thank you for writing to us. You don't have to. You can if you want all that is there. You know, there's not really much news that we have to give you follow us on socials, but yes, even if we're not responding individually to everything, its is landing. Yes, that's a great way to put it. Really. It really means a lot to us. Um, so thank you. And also, I know there's some people that feel that we should have an opening for the podcast. Um, and people have gone so far as to submit openings. We appreciate that as well. But we were someone decided. Um, you know what we want to do? I I know that Azaz a listener of podcast myself. I know that you're used to an intro happening. Um, personally for me, I kind of like that. It's just us talking, and that's all there is. There's no music, There's no ads, there's no whatever, but because this is not supposed to be three,



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this is not supposed to be forever. My It might end



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up being that way, but yeah, I know. But hopefully you know, we won't last that long that were like, Hey, we gotta get some productive value in here, but, um, so we'll see. We'll see. We're figuring it all out. But we're very grateful to everyone for listening and responding. Here she comes. He did it.



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Three guys and special shot out who honorable mention again. To my friends, Cynthia



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Cynthia to pre Sweeney,



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who came up with the perfect title



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this week. Jeannie was talking about her my memoir, humorous memoir. I went through Perry during the Trump years, and I told her, Well, it's gonna have to have an overlong subtitle



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or it won't sell



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Where Won't Sell, That's what that's what the publishers were saying.



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I got it, I got it and Cindy's that I could have it. I went through Perry during the Trump. Here's a Southern Girls Hollywood guide to Staying Sane When the country is having a hot flash by Jamie Hadad Tom Begin Perfect Coming out in June. HarperCollins Penguin.



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Where do you see? Catch



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it. Well, you know, Hatchet lost Woody Allen's Oh, no. Well, they got rid of it. They got rid of it. Is that a basic like



spk_1: 31:21

that? Like, you know, we'll publish. What do you mean?



spk_0: 31:23

Well, but I think What was it more amazing about it? Not that they would publish it, because there is a I'm I'm not going to lie. I have a morbid curiosity about it because I'm fascinated by narcissism just in general, because



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there's a lot of narcissism, the whole book's worth.



spk_0: 31:39

I've done it before. I can name a lot of memoirs I've read about ah, you know and and have read every page. So but, um, I think it was crazy that they had published Ronan Farrow's, but that's what was a little like a conflict of it kind of is playing both sides, you know? I mean, like, look, if a serial killer came out with a book when you want to read it because you'd be sort of interested in, like, what's no sign of a serial killer? O J O J. Simpson killed one



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person that I want to look too well to people.



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That was it.



spk_1: 32:17

I don't want to read that.



spk_0: 32:19

Oh, so you're saying because it's not honest? Because it will. There be No, I don't read like this diseased person's mind. Really? Yeah. I don't like there's something like an interview was one don't get into the mind of some You know why, but to understand why? To understand? I have sick people in my life that hurt me. And I want to know,



spk_1: 32:46

not murderers, though.



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But I mean back to Woody Allen or back to whatever back to non murderers. I just I'm curious about that, um, that illness,



spk_1: 32:59

the curiosity, I absolutely understand. But for me, I think it does end at a certain point where I don't wanna I don't wanna read. You know this maniacs first person



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I would like to know what his like side of the story is as, like, kind of like, you know, it's just gonna I don't know if I'm gonna read it. I'm not saying I'm gonna read or not. I'm just saying Hatchet has an opening. That's what I'm saying. They, uh, they



spk_1: 33:31

have a slot to fill that



spk_0: 33:32

they have an empty place.



spk_1: 33:35

Good news, hatchet



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on Lee. I'm not writing. I have started writing there, but not a book. At the moment. I'm writing a pilot. It's going well.



spk_1: 33:45

Was your first solo pilot.



spk_0: 33:47

Well, technically, I did write something else. Oh, that's right. You have another comment. You're the whole pilot. Yeah. Guess what. There's only one human in America has read that pilot, and that s Scott Ackerman. And he took the time to call me and give me feedback on



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it. He's a good guy,



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and he was very positive about some of my characters.



spk_1: 34:11

He's a good guy,



spk_0: 34:11

so I felt good about it. In a way that's not the pilot that I'm working on. This is a different pilot. This is a kind of personal Yes, it has a personal angle.



spk_1: 34:25

Yes. Well, we can't get in. I shouldn't get into a tumor.



spk_0: 34:27

What I'm saying it's



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a great idea.



spk_0: 34:28

Well, I know was talking a hatchet, but now I'm talking to Hollywood executives.



spk_1: 34:31

You're going back to talking to the Hollywood executives.



spk_0: 34:34

That's why I had to drop a little. I had to plan. Well, I specifically would like to talk to Reese Witherspoon. If you are listening, I have. Hello. Sunshine's next situation brewing in my laptop.



spk_1: 34:52

It's Hello, sunshine. Her production company. Okay,



spk_0: 34:56

Okay. Hee hee gave it. I'm just saying, you know, in my quarantine, I'm trying to use it. I want to come out of this with some with something because I can't go on auditions. Right? Oh, wait. I did have a voice over audition this week. This week was for boss baby. Yeah. If you are a producer or casting director on boss baby police Take the time to listen to my submission.



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Listen, I don't wanna This is her husband talking. My wife worked harder than audition. I heard her in the other room like



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I like I actually liked what I did for it. But



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I liked what she did to



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really



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boss paper. producers,



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baby.



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Who the fuck do you think you are?



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Wheat? Don't I got



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to go down there in that office?



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Don't not guys, block off, Please. Rise, boss. Baby, don't I sound of bus? Let's do our audition. That's



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being of a handsome Are you know my my daughter, Natalie Walker. That's more fan.



spk_0: 36:12

That's right. She actually said that we we did a good job.



spk_1: 36:15

She said you did a good job. She did have that. One of the sub genres that she enjoys is soothing Southern voices. Yo, get up with a way to



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have a new one can also



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wait. No, you wait 1st 1st you wait. Then I'll wait. Another shadow to Andrew Farmer. Very funny comedian who hosts he has a podcast called with an address in called Ah, scary stories to tell in the pod. Uh, he absolutely corroborated. Having grown up in Florida as a young gay man, that you, all them girls, is going to get up into some trouble tonight. Absolutely. A thing that has been set. Um, that was good. That was a good A good, um, confirmation again.



spk_0: 37:08

You were authentic. They were more authentic. Oh, uh, yeah, Yeah, yeah. Them girls going to get up into some trouble with the hairs Tater Tonight on Lee. We called it the hairy painter Mary Pat. My mom calls it the teeth. Yeah, because you gotta go to the tete. That's just what you say.



spk_1: 37:34

That's just what you say. This is what you say. I love Harris Teeter. I love



spk_0: 37:39

I love the teeth, By the way, Kroger's owns it, so it's not really a tete. It's a Kroger's. Yeah,



spk_1: 37:46

but that happens. It's



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still a Harris Teeter set up like a Harris Teeter.



spk_1: 37:52

You know what I



spk_0: 37:52

mean? Yeah. Yeah,



spk_1: 37:53

that I visited the years ago in Atlanta. I went to the murder. Kroger. Have you're familiar with the murder? I don't think I think it's been torn down. It might be something else,



spk_0: 38:03

by the way, um, huge to crime fan over here, So I don't know. I don't know about the murder, Carter.



spk_1: 38:10

The murder Kroger, I think was called. I don't know why it's called that. I assume just because it's a very sketchy Kroger I see, and maybe some murders



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and not that it there was an actual famous



spk_1: 38:22

No, but I remember never stand up in Atlanta and I had to get shaving cream and I went to the murder crew.



spk_0: 38:27

Well, when I've my first apartment in Los Angeles in November of 2001



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Well, yeah, baby e When



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I fled a Manhattan after 9 11 I was walking distance from the Rock and roll Ralph, which is, like, right smack dab in the middle. Holly was still there, and it's near the guitar centers near the flagship Guitar Center on Sunset Boulevard, and they call it the Rock and roll routes. I guess because it was near like rock, because it's like Rocket.



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All the guitar center dues would go in there. Okay, I remember sitting there on a couple occasions after a shift Late shift at Tower Video



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on and which we drove by the old yeah way took a scenic drive drive that changes. It was raining all week in L. A. And we were told to stay in more this week. Yeah, I think the country was told. So we didn't really do any walks or go the store. But we were like, Why don't we drive up to Mulholland and just look? And it was eerie coming down the Sunset strip.



spk_1: 39:39

It was empty.



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It was empty.



spk_1: 39:40

It was wild. Yeah, Never seen it like that. I've lived here. It was like once upon a time in Hollywood, Like I've lived here since 1994. I've never seen it Like



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except a tower video is now a chase bank. It was not quite like.



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And the Tower Records building is still



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there. Just and yellow and ran with the sign. Iconic looking. Yeah, it's while Yeah, it's really wild. Yeah, it was interesting. I don't know what else happened this week because it was 10 years. It's been 10 years.



spk_1: 40:10

We've been watching the wire. We watch. Yeah, well, up to Season three.



spk_0: 40:14

I feel like I had a recommendation, and I forgot what it was. I mean, notes, I'm referring to my notes. Guys, can I recommend let's work about some books a week? Can I point out because, um, Paul has computer computer? I have computer. He configured our Alexe. Uh oh.



spk_1: 40:35

Oh, yes.



spk_0: 40:35

To answer to the word computer. And in season two of the wire, they say that word a lot because they happen thio



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at the docks. And so they say the word over and over again. Another funny thing is there's an episode where they talk about text messaging.



spk_0: 41:01

Yeah, like it's like 2020 thous. Like the like. Telling one a space odyssey. It



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was killing me. And they keep saying the phrase text message like it's called a text message.



spk_0: 41:12

Yeah, they weren't like texting. What's he



spk_1: 41:14

doing on his phone,



spk_0: 41:15

Isn't it? Why, that's why Owned? Yeah, that's wild.



spk_1: 41:19

Do you remember t nine texting? We had to hit the same key over and over again.



spk_0: 41:24

Yeah. I'm not that much younger than you. You were like the same dinner coming. I don't like how could It wasn't that long ago. Hey, it was like when we 1st 30 day I



spk_1: 41:36

is there somewhere fighting it?



spk_0: 41:38

No. Oh, God. Oh, no. What are you? I think it's the offic.



spk_1: 41:41

Your humility on the podcast listening.



spk_0: 41:46

I feel like you're building only and making me seem insignificant. I



spk_1: 41:50

think you're belittling me. It's



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almost like I don't exist.



spk_1: 41:53

I don't know where you're getting that from, because



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because I was definitely there for texting. That was F 39.



spk_1: 42:00

You shouldn't be upset that I fucked her you should be upset that I had a laugh with her



spk_0: 42:05

with that from from, um, that's why that sex that that was from that movie because I loved that may be, but you didn't know, but I But I kind of like had a, like, a very strong emotional reaction to that movie. And then, like, I found out, like other people, like, they're like a and I was like, But then I turned into a full



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of it. Try



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to take a poll of people who are from divorced. How



spk_1: 42:37

do you do this on election day? You went to our polling place When we vote in the primary.



spk_0: 42:43

I was I was like an informal survey, if you will. A survey, not a pole. Fine. Fine. Fine. So I take it informal survey. And it turns out if your parents divorced when you were a kid, that movie hit you in a different away, right? And it was Yeah, I had, like, a moment with that moving



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What if your loveless marriage that lasted for 50



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it would not speak to you? Okay, That's a different movie. My instincts were correct. I don't know who's gonna make that movie for you, but someone needs to make sounds like that out there already about a loveless marriage. 15 years



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just keeps going



spk_0: 43:27

that makes their kids lives miserable. That's got to be more of a TV, Siri's cause. How are you gonna? Well, I guess. Well, like marriage story spans some years.



spk_1: 43:39

True many, though. They're still young when they get divorced.



spk_0: 43:46

That's true. There's still a good looking when you're kind of like Yeah, kind of a little bit. You're worried about the Carol marriage story?



spk_1: 43:54

Don't worry about it. They're fine.



spk_0: 43:56

They're white and they're hot. So what do you do with that? What



spk_1: 44:02

you will just full hot white people.



spk_0: 44:04

Yeah, I mean, that was actually some. Some of my friends had issues with that. They were like, I don't want to see their problems of successful heart white people. And I was like, It's not about that. It's about something. It's about like it's about relationship like it's a bigger you zoom out



spk_1: 44:21

the Here's the thing, though it does get tough when they're So how's you, right? No, of course You write what you know. They're really I You write what you know



spk_0: 44:29

and they're hot problem. I mean, like Jennifer Jason, That's That's not why the people were out of the booth night. Hey, that they're tank it old Hollywood. Okay, it doesn't matter what the



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description of the script is. Of course, they're gonna cast hot people. It's not like the person in the script.



spk_0: 44:51

I have,



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like, making no, like, please only hire hot people for this.



spk_0: 44:57

We're gonna cry. I want him to be hot because, like, can you



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imagine watching an ago try



spk_0: 45:03

people? Yeah. Wait says finish your thing cause I know you



spk_1: 45:07

write what? You know,



spk_0: 45:08

I heard that. But when that's what my pilot isn't



spk_1: 45:11

so. But when you are when you're a person in the industry of show business writing what you know Yes, it is like there's ah, you're you're already pushing a little bit. You're pushing people away



spk_0: 45:26

until, like oh, and so like, uh, wouldn't feel sorry for dif. Yeah,



spk_1: 45:30

absolutely. I mean, it does. It does feel, of course, everyone's everyone's human. And they have They go through the same



spk_0: 45:36

thing that I have a question for you. Do you believe that every story has value? I'm not saying how it's told our house presented. I'm saying, like every store you believe that every human story



spk_1: 45:59

here is how I believe it has value because I believe that we learn from each other stories. Sure. And so there are many things you can learn from any given story.



spk_0: 46:10

That's why I'm gonna read Woody Allen's. Mm.



spk_1: 46:14

This is a fucking trap.



spk_0: 46:15

No, no, it's just a dumb call back. No, I want to ask about every human. Okay, So if every story has value, does every story have to be told using hot people in order



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to make people pay to



spk_0: 46:39

make people pay attention? I mean, is that the meaning of how I mean? Is that true? No, I don't think so. Course it's not know, because I'm not really asking that. Well, that's just I'm just of



spk_1: 46:49

course, you know, because that's where that's where the business.



spk_0: 46:51

It doesn't make a little better. What makes it a little more interesting?



spk_1: 46:55

One of the things that's so funny to me. Yeah, is Frankie and Johnny in the Clair de Lune famous



spk_0: 47:00

explain. Oh,



spk_1: 47:02

about Michelle people, you know, finding love in this working class. Middle aged people finding love in this diner. And then they cast with Al Pacino and Michelle Pfeiffer.



spk_0: 47:10

She's by the way, I think Kathy Bates did on Broadway. Something like that. Probably. Okay, Uh, s m u grad, Shall I come? I think where we went to Drama school. So Dirty Bird Base, like me and Kathy Bates or kind of like simpatico. She doesn't really know it, but I did. You, uh, I did do. I did shoot a job with Kathy Bates. I did it. I had a couple of lines on a pilot. That's right. And it was a David Kelly thing. I have



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to kill you. David E. Kelley writes in his legal pad.



spk_0: 47:49

And I had just a few lines, and I rode with her in the golf court to the set, and I was like, I want I was like, I was like, Hey, I went toe s m u drama school, and and, um, it just didn't blend. Kind of like a thud. Oh, yeah, it was not Ah, it didn't. Ah, it was not a conversation spark. Er yeah. I mean, she was a polite but distant. Does that make sense?



spk_1: 48:22

Yes, it does. I had an experience like that recently, huh? Because I shot an episode of something I don't think I'm allowed to say. What it is is the last job I had before the last time. You should



spk_0: 48:33

say what it is because of the irony of it.



spk_1: 48:35

No, no. I want just to be on the safe side. I want Yeah, but I was working with I had one scene with Ah, the actor journey small. It was on Friday night lights which early in our when we first moved in together we watch Friday night lights.



spk_0: 48:55

Quick aside, I've come up with a new sign off for emails. So far no one has given me proper acknowledgment for it. But I've been signing my



spk_1: 49:07

you added it as your automated signature.



spk_0: 49:10

No, because I don't want to repeat it.



spk_1: 49:12

Your retyping it every time. Yeah. What else? That I did not know that



spk_0: 49:18

I now sign my emails. Clean hands, full mask. Can't lose. Which I felt good about cricket, cricket, cricket.



spk_1: 49:32

Are you expecting because here's the cricket. Here's the thing Is that you will you'll send a text to someone, huh? On then, 20 minutes later, you were like no one responded to my texts.



spk_0: 49:46

What the fuck is that? Oh, we're going long, cuckoo for going along and



spk_1: 49:52

I feel like we're in the middle of Ah, story. Oh, So



spk_0: 49:55

will you miss my bullet? Who is just see some Let's oh,



spk_1: 50:02

so after we were done, I said, Hey, my wife and I are big Friday night lights fans. It was very important to us when we were, you know,



spk_0: 50:16

that's nice together and share.



spk_1: 50:18

And she was very polite. But she went into, like, I could tell it was a thing. She's had to respond to a 1,000,000 billion times. Do you know what I mean? And I instantly regretted saying anything because I was like, Well, this is lame. What I just said she was She could not have been nicer. She's like, Oh, yeah, that was a great show. Was so you know, I'm so glad that people saw that, you know, it was really we were really fighting there to get seen, and you know that always it's always nice to hear that somebody like that show. And I was like, Oh, she said this to so many people and you know, I that's That's my



spk_0: 50:54

That was your sense of it.



spk_1: 50:56

That was my fear of being unoriginal and boring. You know what you mean



spk_0: 51:01

we lease? You didn't say hams. Are your brother faked a crime? Wait, I love interesting



spk_1: 51:15

way to say hey, just



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because you know it's all



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right with you. I'm sorry. Your brother figure.



spk_0: 51:22

You know, it's hard on the family. Of course, because I hear that something that you offered condolences on. I think it's like expressing empathy like that. Must have been robbed



spk_1: 51:38

a bank in, like a Really? I'm really sorry, brother. Out that bag



spk_0: 51:42

I was feeling. I got the sense that he is like a loving person that people liked, but maybe has some undiagnosed. I



spk_1: 51:54

think he's probably got some problems,



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but which is



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It's funny. I was gonna get into



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that. How could you not? How could we not? How could you not? No, not with her. I'm just saying, like you can. I



spk_1: 52:11

was gonna get into it anywhere



spk_0: 52:16

anyway. Friday night lights, time to binge way were watching these into is ah is a situation.



spk_1: 52:24

There's some weird stuff happening, but it's they because they went from being on NBC to then being on direct TV or something weird like the first



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of that. It was like the first wave of that,



spk_1: 52:38

and we used to watch it. So So they had to make some weird. They did take some weird notes from from people.



spk_0: 52:44

Well, when they were on NBC, that's what ruin that season. Because they I wanted it to be more network key, right? Yeah,



spk_1: 52:51

but they did as well as they could with a couple. Weird.



spk_0: 52:56

I think our friend won an Emmy for that. So our friend rollin and he brought his pastries this morning and left him on report



spk_1: 53:05

with these air too many threats and wait, we gotta wrap this up. But Friday night lights we watched it when it was you were still getting discs in the mail.



spk_0: 53:15

Here. Here's my gift to you. If you want to sign an email this week, clean hands, full mask can't lose. I am gifting that to the world



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now. It belongs to the ages.



spk_0: 53:36

I'm just saying you can binge FNL as fans of Friday Night lights. That's what we call it exclusively. Oh, by the way, tomorrow night SNL is doing an episode like of like, from home bits or some interesting Interesting. Is that Is that Is that an essential work? While



spk_1: 53:56

they're doing it from home? Who cares? Okay, okay. We got about this.



spk_0: 54:00

I'm saying I'm on number two of my week Water. Yeah, And I give y'all



spk_1: 54:06

Oh, when the y'all



spk_0: 54:08

start could just Gabby,



spk_1: 54:11

it's time to sign off.



spk_0: 54:13

Oh, night. Very. Oh, no, no, no.



spk_1: 54:19

Let me just stop you right there and say tumble. It said, Amelia, you're going to have to wrap this up. Thank you all for listening. Yeah, we're gonna wrap this up. Thank you so much for listening



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to the best



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of the best.



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God you're getting us. There's God damn pandemic.



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We will be back next week.



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I stay safe. Stay healthy, love one another.



