The owner of my soul, Jim Henderson, loves to speak to non-Christians about their (lack of) religious beliefs, and he recently combined two of my favorite things: Atheism and “This American Life” host Ira Glass:

Their relationship goes back a few years. In 2009, TAL did an episode called “Bait-and-Switch” in which Glass interviewed Henderson about his unique evangelism methods and how other Christians love to use the bait & switch strategy. This interview was conducted more than a year ago but was only posted online yesterday.

Glass and Henderson also talked about how Christians are often picked on by the media: