DAVIS: I have heard in the black community people saying it's going to take an old white man to beat an old white man.

ABRAMS: I think that any candidate who is standing for office right now is electable because I believe Donald Trump is eminently beatable.

But he's not the target. The target is victory for our values.

And so the goal that I have is to make certain we have a candidate who has the right policies, but that we have a platform and a capacity to ensure that the votes are cast and counted, so that that person, male or female, black, white or Latino, becomes the next president of the United States.

DAVIS: But why do you think that Joe Biden's message seems to be resonating more with black voters than, say, Senators Harris or Booker?

ABRAMS: Vice President Biden is a known quantity. He's been a part of the national conversation for decades.

What I believe electability means is that you can tell the people not only what you’re going to do but why it matters. And I’m looking forward to the end of this process, so we see who comes out on top.

DAVIS: Do you have any concern about some of his commentary about race?

ABRAMS: I think, if you listen to the whole of what Joe Biden says, it is consistent with Democratic values and always has been.

I think we lose out if we spend so much time focusing on missteps or malapropisms and not focusing on the content. And, right now, every Democratic candidate, I think, is talking about the right things. And that is protecting America, renewing America and ensuring that we are restored in our values and in our standing in the world.