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From: kori_to_kukki

2010-01-16 05:41 pm (UTC)

you should have told him everything you just wrote here, what would have been awesome :D (except the coming out thing.. not the perfect sitation for something like this i think)

From: striped

2010-01-17 09:16 pm (UTC)

Seconded! The OP put it so well here, and I see no reason why the teacher shouldn't be called on this BS. Even though people often don't see their *ist thinking even when it's pointed out to them, it's still a good idea to let them know YOU don't approve.

From: cantfindreverse

2010-01-16 05:52 pm (UTC)

I think you completely have a right to be offended. It was an extremely sexist comment from every angle, and was completely inappropriate. Granted, they may have been joking, but if you think he/she was serious, I don't think you'd be out of line to talk to their superior about it, especially since it upset you so much.



*gives hugs*

From: kittycurious

2010-01-16 06:03 pm (UTC)

You have every right to be offended. Not only is the comment sexist it's also inappropriate to say that to a student, imo.

I'd be one pissed off parent if some teacher said that to my kid.

From: mistress_infy

2010-01-16 06:15 pm (UTC)

Wow, really? That's how married people (or anyone in a relationship) spends their Sunday?



My lover hates sports; I do too. It's something to bond over.

From: saciel

2010-01-16 06:18 pm (UTC)

Lol sorry that's your own fault.



Especially gym. YOU basically said "I'm a girl I don't want to learn football, that's a boys sport, nagnagnag." So which response did you expect?

If you give stupid statements like that above, you have to be prepared to get stupid statements back.



I'm not sure if the guy was serious about it or not, as I don't know him, but be sure that if one of my students gave me a sentence like that, I would have been very snarky.



Sorry, I can't give you sympathy here, I'm much to nerved by lazy students who always ask "What will I ever need that for?"

"I don't understand why I should learn English" (well because just 90% of your further reading material in higher semesters WILL BE ENGLISH).





From: 7eventeen

2010-01-16 06:29 pm (UTC)

well, I think there's a difference between a language course and football. Also, she didn't say that football was a men's sport - you did. The distinction is that English language courses have a useful, positive benefit, while football is unlikely to do so if you're not considering playing professionally.

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From: lvsinsanity

2010-01-16 06:19 pm (UTC)

If that had been my gym teacher I would have given him a large earful, mainly over everything you just said!



For cryin' out loud some people are just so DENSE!





( just an fyi, I think you posted this in the wrong setting, we can see all your italic html's)

From: jedibubbles

2010-01-16 06:24 pm (UTC)

My boyfriend/unofficial fiance loves football. He doesn't mind that I hate it and would much rather spend some time in my studio while he goes out to watch "The Game" with his friends--half of whom are females. It was a sexist answer, but then again it was a loaded question.



To avoid crap like this in the future, try asking your gym teacher if you can do something more cardiovascular-ly constructive with your time, like jog laps around the gym while everyone else plays. You don't have to deal with football and you're improving your fitness, and I can't see him objecting to you doing something more active than a stop-and-go game.

From: pandemic_panic

2010-01-16 07:52 pm (UTC)

Yes, some gym teachers are cool with it, I was allowed to jog the track instead of a lot of team sports. Though he knew full well no one wanted me on their team, and we had an odd number of students. The only team sport anybody wanted me on was water polo because I could tread water the longest :P



In any case, it's definitely worthwhile to ask.

From: sensualcoco

2010-01-16 06:26 pm (UTC)

You were complaining in gym class, no good ever comes of that.



But yeah the comment was totally presumptuous.

From: innana88

2010-01-16 06:48 pm (UTC)

No, I don't think you are over-reacting at all.



I honestly would have blown a gasket. Husbands and football combined is one of the few topics that I can't talk about without clenching my teeth so hard I pulverize my jawbone.

From: akisawana

2010-01-16 07:02 pm (UTC)

I'm assuming you're in high school here?

Pointing out to any teacher that their curriculum sucks isn't really the greatest idea. They tend to get a bit defensive.

HOWEVER, your gym teacher really overreacted. I'd be offended because of all the reasons to make a bunch of kids play football (and I can give you a handful off the top of my head), not a single one of them is gender-specific. So maybe learn to pick your battles, and know that your gym teacher is WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Also, I know jackshit about football, and my father-in-law loves it, so I've spent a lot of time learning the game with him, which is fun. (Doesn't hurt that we watch The Worst Team In Football, who are entertaining all on their own.)

From: lisztful

2010-01-16 07:09 pm (UTC)

I'm frankly a little shocked at the people who are attacking the op, here. It's everyone's prerogative to react as they see fit to this, of course, but basically I don't think it matters whether the op ought to have been complaining about gym class or not.



What's relevant to me is that during a discussion with a student, an authority figure made a blatantly heterosexist remark, leaving that student feeling not safe to protest it. In my opinion, that's just not appropriate, and saying, "You shouldn't have said anything in the first place," comes dangerously close to victim-blaming. Feminists need to stick together, not shoot each other down, and if we feel that someone's reacting to something in sort of the wrong way, i think there's a way to say that without implicitly condoning the sexism to which the op is referring.



The gym teacher could have said any number of things, from it's good exercise to it's on the state curriculum, or even, because girls should be allowed to play the same sports as boys. Instead, the gym teacher chose to make an assumptive and demeaning remark, and I think that's terrible. I'm sorry you had to experience this, op.

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From: ribbon_scythe

2010-01-16 07:10 pm (UTC)

the why the hell did he choose to take that class? .



Your reaction to his comment however, was not overreacting. He had no right to say those things to you. Perhaps if he had just said something more general it would have been all right.



Speaking as someone who likes watching football, I still would rather not play myself, nor do I expect every man in America to like football. Given my tendency to like foreign guys, I don't think my husband will be watching the football he's thinking of...



Obviously you and I aren't



To be fair to the gym teacher, you were complaining about sports in a gym class which probably came out all wrong to him/her. At least you're a million times better than the guy in my creative writing class who claimed writing creatively has no meaning and there fore literature and poetry were uselessYour reaction to his comment however, was not overreacting. He had no right to say those things to you. Perhaps if he had just said something more general it would have been all right.Speaking as someone who likes watching football, I still would rather not play myself, nor do I expect every man in America to like football. Given my tendency to like foreign guys, I don't think my husband will be watching the football he's thinking of...Obviously you and I aren't American enough to fit into this guy's expectation of the wold.

From: philstar22

2010-01-16 07:26 pm (UTC)

Hah. Yes, you definately have the right to be offended.



Also, watching and playing sports are two different things. I'm not very athletic (asthma impedes my ability to do a lot of stuff), but I love to watch sports. Hey, if I marry, I'll probably be the one watching football.

From: kat_nic

2010-01-16 07:37 pm (UTC)

Personally I've always hated gym/p.e. If it was just about exercising and keeping fit that would be one thing; we always started the class with exercise and running laps, but when we moved on to the sports...ugh. I never understood the point. I mean, if we'd had the choice to keep exercising or jog the rest of the class, instead of playing teh sprot of the week, that would be one thing, but the whole "it teaches kids about teamwork/trust" is b.s. The kids who already like sports/are good at sports already know this lesson, for one. The kids who aren't good at sports, instead of learning teamwork, learn humiliation.



And your teacher's answer? WAY out of line. I would have given him some back talk and probably been written up, but that's just me.

From: dearmisterecho

2010-01-16 07:49 pm (UTC)

The kids who already like sports/are good at sports already know this lesson, for one. The kids who aren't good at sports, instead of learning teamwork, learn humiliation.



pretty much. and at least in my high school, the gym teacher obviously favored the athletes (probably were their coach as well after school) and treated everyone else like crap (if he even remembered we were there, sometimes he would get caught up in other shit and barely even conduct class).





From: spyderfyngers

2010-01-16 07:53 pm (UTC)

I love how he assumes you're heterosexual, too.



PE teachers are the dregs of the Earth.

From: author_abz

2010-01-16 08:06 pm (UTC)

I disagree. I know a pretty awesome PE teacher. She's my sister-in-law.