CBS and CNN paid for real scientific polling to gauge victor. NBC are a bunch of cheap bastards and decided to do an old-timey online web poll:



@CNBC via HootSuite [POLL] Who do you think won the VP Debate? Reply #Biden or #Ryan. Also, vote here: http://t.co/...

How bad was Paul Ryan's night? Bad enough that the Romney campaign is blasting out the results of this WEB POLL to try and claim Ryan won.

So hey, let's give that a shot and see who won the debate! Vote.

And if you want to thank Joe Biden for his kick-ass performance tonight, let him know right here!

CNN snap poll: Ryan 48, Biden 44, so CNN did get their "tie". CBS snap poll of undecided voters provided clear Biden victory 50-32.

Great job freeping that CNBC web poll. Ryan's lead is almost gone, which must suck for the Romney campaign that thought that really important!

Okay, one more for you here.