On January 31, an Asian American man who calls himself “Uncle Chang” made headlines after condemning liberals for their identity politics and explaining why they lost to Donald Trump.

He delivered his speech on the “He Will Not Divide Us” livestream protest at the Museum of the Moving Image in New York City.

The video went viral, garnering over 16 million views on Milo Yiannopoulos’s Facebook page alone.

Since Trump’s presidential election win, animosity on both sides have divided the nation. The resulting protests sees both sides firmly standing their ground.

Aside from all the things Uncle Chang said, which includes telling liberals to “suck his big Asian cock”, there was one part of his speech that really got me thinking.

“You cannot win this if it turns violent,” he said. “You can win by reaching out to conservatives. Talking to them. Talk to Trump supporters and ask them why they believe what they believe. And maybe, you’ll find common ground.”

And that’s exactly what I did. I started contacting Asian American Trump supporters I knew to do a story regarding their views, but none wanted to go on record — even under a pseudonym. I was bummed for a minute until I saw the following tweet.

I immediately tweeted him asking for an interview and he agreed. But, how do I know if he’s real? We connected via DM and he sent me the following photo for verification.

He was hesitant at first, but I assured him that my purpose here was to listen and not judge. I didn’t (and don’t) intend to trash him publicly or call him out in any way. I sincerely just wanted to listen to his side. Here’s what I learned.

Uncle Chang, who declined to give his real name, is a 23-year-old Chinese-American with a degree in computer science from NYU and is based in Midtown Manhattan. Like me, he grew up speaking Cantonese with his parents at home and English at school. He was raised in Brooklyn to immigrant parents. His mother scrubs toilets as a maid at a hotel and his father does manual labor.

It’s no secret that New York City is predominantly liberal. For some time, Uncle Chang also considered himself a classical liberal, until the recent election. He opened up on what he thinks of the politically correct culture and it’s impact on white America.

“Lately, it seems that people who call themselves liberal, are no longer liberals,” Chang told NextShark. “They’re saying that white and black people have certain qualities about them. It creates this hierarchy where it’s okay to punch up. In this new world view, all white people are above everyone else, so it’s okay to punch and hit all white people.”

He cites the recent MTV controversy involving a video showing various MTV News Employees giving white men advice on how they can do better in 2017. Chang says that this is a perfect example of the constant hypocrisy from liberals.

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Chang explains that he really liked Trump because he came up as a Nationalist to him. His “America First” rhetoric was what appealed to him the most.

“To me, it makes sense that the U.S. government should put it’s own citizens first before anyone else,” he said. “I think the government should look after our homeless, our vets, our sick and our poor before we start taking in ‘refugees’ from Syria and other places in the Middle East.”

He then shared his thoughts on the controversial immigration and refugee ban on seven predominantly Muslim nations.

“I’m okay with the seven nation ban because it was meant to be temporary until we can improve our vetting capabilities. What I’m not okay with is the fact that in implementation, they stopped green card holders as well. Doesn’t make sense to me. GC holders are already vetted. [Trump’s Chief of Staff] Reince Priebus said it was a miscommunication.

“I believe we should have a president that looks out for the working class. And the democrats have not been looking out for us.”

For as much as he loves Trump, Uncle Chang shares an equal amount of hate for Hillary Clinton, who he finds extremely untrustworthy. He cites a 2013 speech she delivered to the National Multi-Housing Council in 2013 where she said the following:

“Politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.”

After seeing this excerpt, Uncle Chang saw Clinton as untrustworthy and inauthentic in her opinions. But the biggest deal breaker for him was the email scandal that has plagued Clinton throughout her campaign and was the focal point of Trump’s campaign.

“I do cybersecurity for a living, I know how badly she fucked up,” he said. “I have friends that work for the government. If they did 1% of what she did, best case scenario they’d get fired. Worst case, they’d be prosecuted. They wouldn’t be running for the highest office of the land.

“There were over 10,000 SAP level material on her personal server and after an audit, that server was found to be insecure. SAP is the top most secure level of information classification,” he continued.

“She took all that, removed it from a secure government infrastructure, and put it into an unsecured personal home server in her house somewhere in upstate New York. That is a huge fuckup. If you copied classified material and took it home, they’d get fired on the spot,” he added.

When asked whether things would’ve been different had Bernie Sanders become the Democratic nominee and not Hillary Clinton, Chang admitted he’d be much more open minded.

“In this current universe, it was 100% Trump and no way Hillary. If it was Bernie vs. Trump. It would say 30% Bernie and 70% Trump. But I’d have to look at the debates and their campaign,” Chang said.

“I’d be much more open to the democratic side, that just shows how bad Hillary was for me personally. But for me, I agree a lot with Trump’s nationalist rhetoric. I agree and support him in trying to help the working class. This was not a protest vote.”

However, one thing Chang didn’t like that Bernie said was that he embraced the identity politics of the Democratic Party. He cited the following excerpt from an answer he gave during the Democratic debate.



“When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor.”

Uncle Chang’s anti-identity politics rhetoric was one of the major focal points of his speech during the livestream. Chang defines identity politics as taking a bunch of people, categorizing them into a group and arranging them into a hierarchy, where the people above have less “privilege” than the people on the bottom.

“Right now, in the social climate, straight white men are on the bottom. Anyone above them can talk trash about them and it’s socially acceptable. That’s what I don’t like. That’s not equality. That’s definitely not the equality that I was raised with.

“I believe that identity politics has turned feminism into a bait and switch. If you ask someone, ‘do you support women’s right to vote and women’s right to choose what she wants to do with her life?’ Most people would say yes, I would say yes! So then you are labeled a feminist.

“But then, you have people that fly the feminist banner that turn around and say ‘feminism means putting women up and putting men down’ by saying ‘you have male privilege — you’re the oppressor because of the genitals you were born with.’ That turns a lot of people that actually believe in women’s rights off of feminism.”

One of the greatest criticisms that has plagued Trump throughout his campaign centers around his infamous “pussy grabbing” quote. Here’s what Uncle Chang had to say:

“He said in the audio recording that ‘they [the women] let [him]’ because he’s rich and famous. It’s not sexual assault if there’s consent, right? And I’m sure you know human courtship is heavily based on nonverbal cues, body language. For some girls, they give rich, powerful, or attractive men more leeway and Trump knows that. I think every man and woman knows that.”

“It’s like those teen romance movies where the guy just feels the moment is right and goes for the kiss. They don’t talk and hash out what is consent or not … That’s not romantic at all! The guy does a read on the girl and the situation and he goes for it. That’s what I interpret the pussy grabbing bit to be. In this case, Trump gets a read on this woman that’s star struck and flirting with him, so he goes for it. Sometime’s the read is wrong, sometimes it’s right. But that’s a risk we all take every time we go on a date.

“While I don’t find the ‘pussy grabbing’ bit wrong, I do find the other part of the audio tape wrong, where he said he flirted with that married woman. That’s not cool in my opinion.”

Then there’s the bit about calling Mexicans “drug dealers, criminals and rapists”. Chang explained:

“He never said all Mexicans were rapists. I mean I get it, he doesn’t word things very well. But the IIRC quote was ‘They’re [illegals] bringing drugs. They’re rapists. And some I assume, are good people.’ If my stats are right, something like 50% of female illegals crossing the border get raped by the coyotes (paid human traffickers that work for the cartels). And yes, some of the migrants and coyotes crossing over are also bringing drugs for sales in the U.S. He never said all Mexican nationals were rapists.”

Uncle Chang then moved on to whether he believes white privilege exists:

“My position is extremely nuanced. I believe that it’s true that the most victims of cop violence are black people. Most of the people who are shot by cops are black. But the identity politics focus on the left attribute that to some sort of inherent racism.

“My interpretation of that is black men are shot more often because black men are seen as criminals because of a negative stereotypes. Why are the majority of criminals black men? It’s because of poverty. They’re more likely to live in under-served areas. When people on the left say identity politics, they take it as an accusation towards white people that they’ve wronged black people in the past and are continuing to wrong them.

“My interpretation of white privilege is the lack of black success. Because of the way the world is right now, most black men grow up in violent neighborhoods, so they turn to crime for food and money. When they do that, it creates a negative stereotype against them.

“So if you’re a cop and someone is walking towards you with their hands in their pockets. This is an inherent human bias. If the stereotype is that black men are more likely to be a threat to you and if you’re a cop and someone is walking towards you. You’re going to be on high alert, more so than if that person was white or Asian. I don’t believe that cops react this way because they hate black men, I believe they react this way because black men are underachieving which creates this stereotype. Stereotypes are very hard to program out of the brain, I would say it’s nearly impossible.”

However, despite his support for Trump, Uncle Chang admits that there are two things he didn’t agree with the President with. He was not a fan of his global anti-abortion move and Betsy Devos’ appointment as Secretary of Education.

“I’m not too confident on Betsy Devos. I’m not too fond of her. If what I read about her is correct.” Chang said.

While it’s true that the economy has improved during Obama’s presidency, Chang says that it’s been the coastal cities like San Francisco and New York City who’ve been able to see the recovery.

“Recovery has been really good for coastal people. It has not been so good for people in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin — their jobs are still not there. Hunger and starvation are not long term problems.

“If you’re starving, you are not going to care about what’s happening 20 years from now. You care about what’s going to happen tomorrow. If we’re going to have a globalized economy, we have to find a way to take care of the people who are left behind.”

Uncle Chang currently works at a startup in New York City and says he aspires to be the first Asian-American President.