My opinion hasn't changed since the 'leak' that these were the PS4 games this month. I am interested in Deus Ex as its one of those games I never got round to picking up. I don't enjoy the TellTale games and, even though Batman is my 'favourite' superhero, I doubt I will play this - might add it to my download list.

I will add the VR game, like I did with previous VR games although I really have little interest in buying a VR headset in the near future.

@themcnoisy @kyleforrester87 I don't know how many PS3 owners pay for PS+ - especially if they don't own a PS4. I can see those people that own both gens getting value and use out of PS+ but for those with just a PS3, I think it would be difficult to justify buying a subscription. The benefits are minimal - extra discounts in store and the free games. If they have been subscribing for years, maintaining a PS+ subscription may feel necessary as they stand to lose access to a LOT of games they may have downloaded.

I think most PS3 owners own a PS4 and therefore the PS+ is primarily purchased for PS4. The PS3 games are an 'extra' bonus.

Its inevitable that the PS3 will lose its 'online' status. Sony will at some point turn off the PS3 servers and, along with that, the IGC games will no longer be accessible or playable. The games, like they are on PS4, are not yours - they are playable on the condition that you have a valid PS+ subscription AND an Online account. If either of these conditions are not met, then the games are not playable. They were never 'indefinite' and, if you look at their status online, they have an 'expiry date'. That date corresponds with the end of your PS+ subscription and can be extended by adding more time to your PS+.

PS+ wasn't overly popular on PS3 - not considering the number of PS3 gamers. In the past 4 years, its membership has significantly grown but even then it seems 1 in 2 don't subscribe. Its probably up to around 30m by now as May 2017 had around 26.4m.

No doubt if/when Sony do turn off the PS3 or decide to stop offering PS3 games, those with PS3's only can decide to cancel their PS+ subscription - thus getting any money owed back but in either case, their IGC library will go. Sony should give notification and so you have time to finish up any games and/or seek to buy any you wish to 'keep' beyond that point. It will happen with PS4 too at some point - but IF Sony's next console(s) offer BC, then maybe they will stay 'alive' on future consoles - similar to the BC on XB1. The majority of '360' games I have 'ready to download' on XB1 were games I got through GwG. I haven't really played any of my 360 disc based games on that.

I am sure Sony would have stated that the games are conditional under the terms of their service and that if the conditions can't be met - either by you cancelling your subscription or not being connected to online, then the games cease to be playable.