Originally Posted by Enigma, CA Originally Posted by

There has been a lot of discussion in the past few weeks about the "Dishonouring Treaties" diplomacy effect, with many players believing that this feature is bugged. Shogun 2 differs from Empire and Napoleon in showing a symmetric relationship between clans, rather than one clans opinion of another clan. The consequence of this is that dishonourable actions by either party will show up in the relationship between those two clans.



If the "Dishonouring Treaties" factor appears in your relationship with another clan it is not that the player is being blamed for dishonouring treaties, but that the relationship between the two clans has degraded, because one or other of them has dishonoured a treaty.



But what does it mean to dishonour a treaty? If you declare war on a clan whilst, or shortly after having certain treaties with them then you will be considered to have dishonoured that treaty. For example, if you sign a peace treaty and then a year later declare war again you will be hit with the "Dishonouring Treaties" diplomacy effect with all clans. This only applies if you are the instigator of a war, joining an ally will never incur a penalty.