Despite Gustav’s objections and protests, this is an episode about the divisive topic of the border wall between the United States and Mexico. Heavy and Gustav had been arguing in a group text while Ty sat back and watched (all the time enjoying the clashing opinions). Gustav was worried that we might alienate listeners regardless of which end of the political spectrum that they may fall onto. Heavy countered that arguement by asking have we lost listeners due to stories about strippers or genitals or any other risque topic. While a valid point, Gustav made the distinction that there is a difference between offending someone with inappropriate content and pissing off someone with opposing political viewpoints.

When Gustav put out the call for emails for this recording session, he was surprised to receive six emails pertaining to the border wall. All of the emails came from long time listeners and friends of the podcast. Despite his misgivings and his suspicions of a conspiracy, Gustav relented and this episode is a mostly serious discussion of the issue of the border wall. If you think you might be offended, then just go ahead and skip this episode and rejoin us next week for our normal easy going discussions.

After reading all six of the emails, the first topic discussed is the notion of Open Borders and whether a nation can maintain sovereignty without some form of controlled immigration. Current fencing upon the border is discussed with Heavy and Gustav recounting their experiences in walled border towns in both Texas and California.

The group discusses the logistical hurdles that a physical wall presents as well as the political hurdles that funding the construction of the wall will encounter. The three of us also look at the physical ways a wall can be defeated.

Heavy shares his personal story of interacting with a victim of human trafficking and how he dealt with it, as well as stories he got via Mrs. Longmire through her work with legal and illegal immigrants.

Then there is a discussion about immigration reform followed up by a summation that ends up taking 45 minutes partly due to Heavy’s confession about his Machiavellian role behind the six border wall emails.

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