Jacob Pander: Since we were in the same town, we'd just roll by to drop off pages each time we did a batch. Around 1990, we were about to pitch our book The Dissident, which was then called Triple X. The day we actually had to go out to Milwaukie and negotiate contracts, I was working as a prop assistant for My Own Private Idaho and had to go out to the Gun Room on Foster and get two revolvers—real guns, that we had to have with us because you couldn't just leave them around. So, I pick up Arnold, and we come in with this silver case. Somebody makes a joke, I pop the case open, and there were these two old school Smith & Wesson's. Then, right at that moment, Mike Richardson walks out of his office asking if we were ready for our meeting. And, the same guy goes – 'they brought guns!'