09-18/22:09 Hagbard: Lead i Vinland: Holidayinnes 4 pt. 09-18/19:18 Hagbard: Lead in Vinland: L716 3 pt. Lead in Virihávrre: Cacreal 3 pt. 09-18/18:04 Hagbard: ;) 09-18/15:11 OdinHimself: @Hagbard: I must come and see with my own eyes, touch with my own hands, feel the viking spirit, only then I will be happy :) 09-18/11:00 Iarann: Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2020. 09-18/10:58 Hagbard: New in gallery: A new visit to the Royal Viking Hall, Denmark, and photos of the Norden Tournament prize. 09-17/23:47 Hagbard: Lead in Fornebei: Jrton80 3 pt. 09-17/22:26 Hagbard: Lead in Rágo: L716 4 pt. 09-17/20:09 Hagbard: The Simple Tyr 15x15 tournament finished with #1 Chaolaibhne, #2 Jrton80, #3 Masterluke 09-16/22:56 Hagbard: Lead in Garthariki: Draganov 3 pt. 09-16/21:37 mihkkal: Congratulations! 09-16/10:06 Hagbard: The Sea battle T circle 11x11 tournament finished with #1 Chaolaibhne, #2 Xerxes, #3 Masterluke. The Saami Sáhkku 3x15 tournament finished with #1 Hagbard, Hnefihunter and Mihkkal 09-15/18:22 Hagbard: First game finished: Scuppa / Draganov 09-14/22:45 Hagbard: First move: Jrton80 09-14/22:36 Hagbard: May Loki give you laughter as you go. 09-14/18:42 Agmundr: @OdinHimself: Thanks for the good words my viking brother! I would fight by your side at any time! 🍻 09-14/18:19 OdinHimself: @Agmundr: Skål, viking brother!!! If I have to choose with whom to fight side by side until death, it would be you, the purest and most unadulterated viking of us all! Sheilds up and march forward, face death and enter the Golden hall! 09-14/17:43 Agmundr: Warriors of the world! Its time to sharpen your swords and axes! Good luck to everyone, and raise your horns for a toast! Skål! 🍻 09-13/11:15 mihkkal: How does one solve a tie in a Sáhkku tournament? There may be a plan in place for this potential issue already, here at Aagenielsen.dk, but in case not there are two ways that have been established through modern offline cups. 1: The tied players face off in a match of Tie-Breaker Sáhkku, a special variant invented to solve ties quickly. This was invented before the first open Sáhkku Cup but has never been utilized in practice, since there has never been a need for it. Here, it would necessitate programming a new and entirely modern Sáhkku variant, so probably not an optimal choice 2: Counting surviving soldiers. When Sáhkku is used for betting, the number of surviving soldiers on the winning team has been used to calculate how large the sum won has been. So, it pays to win by a good margin, that is with many surviving soldiers. Inspired by this, cup play has also used this principle to differ between players. Two players are ranked equally because they won against another player? The player that retained most soldiers in their match is deemed best. Two players are ranked equally because they lost against another player? The player that killed the most soldiers on the other team is deemed best. If using this principle (survivor count) as a tie breaker, I guess one way of implementing it here could be to look through all final board positions of the tied players throughout the tournament and see who, in total, had the largest number of surviving soldiers. That's a bit of work though. Another option is of course to allow the tournament to end with several winners 09-13/10:21 ChaolAibhne: Thanks @Hagbard. Could you undo my move as well. 09-13/06:55 Hagbard: It can have a Send Move button first thing. 09-13/01:51 ChaolAibhne: @Hagbard. In my game of Hex against you I accidentally tapped the board and my move was immediately submitted without confirmation (I was attempting to zoom the board to fit the screen of my phone). If confirmation isn't a feature for this game then I'll probably have to cancel it, as it will be too easy to accidentally make a move on my phone. 09-11/21:03 Hagbard: 3 days till the tournament! 09-10/23:58 Tjierrek: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 09-10/21:23 mihkkal: A running-fight game to be precise. That is, a mix between a race game and an elimination game. The two teams are in Sámi referred to as "men" vs. "women." 09-10/20:35 Rossomaha: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-10/20:33 Rossomaha: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-10/19:24 garun19: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-10/18:08 Hagbard: I believe that the correct term should be "race game" but I dare not say such words in these times... 09-10/17:47 ChaolAibhne: "Sáhkku is a racing game houndreds of years old". Dog racing? ;-) 09-10/16:02 OdinHimself: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-08/10:25 Scuppa: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-08/10:24 Scuppa: Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2020. 09-07/18:20 Draganov: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-05/14:44 Fraech: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-03/22:48 AreVidar: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-03/20:49 MasterLuke: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 09-03/09:14 test1: test 09-02/14:12 MasterLuke: @mihkkal: Very interesting... Now that you mention it, I didn't include a playing order in my rules, but I guess Attacker 1, Attacker 2 and then Defender would feel most natural. Like the regular 2-player game, the attackers always begin. Otherwise they wouldn't be attackers, no? And indeed, one of the special treats of this concept is the possibility to 'work together'... up to a certain point, that is. Near the end, I guess the attackers will work against each other for absolute victory. :) 09-02/11:36 mihkkal: @MasterLuke I remember a group once improvised 3-player Tablut at board game evening at Oslo Sámi House. But it was pretty different. As I remember the rules and setup was the same as usual but the atrackers were divided up between two players. I'm not sure if the the turns went Attacker 1 - Defender - Attacker 2 - Defender etc or Attacker 1 - Attacker 2 - Defender etc. In any case it was interresting due to the obvious challenge to Attckers: communicating your plans to your partner without the Defender catching on. 09-01/14:12 MasterLuke: I keep having those ideas: maybe they work, maybe not... after 3-player Talf, Scrabble-Tafl, here is 'Throne-Tafl'. see http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=129&p=1482#p1482 I promise this is the last one - for now :) 09-01/10:36 Agmundr: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 09-01/10:35 Agmundr: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-31/09:50 MasterLuke: I really love the versatility of the basic Tafl-moves and concept... so another crazy (?) idea came to my mind: check this one out! http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=1481#p1481 08-31/08:36 mihkkal: I see Sáhkku now has implemented the modern "begin with three pieces activated" rule. A good choice imo. Tilts the chance-skill balance more towards skill. Without it you can effectively lose a game just by not getting enough X'es in the beginning. 08-29/00:40 Jrton80: @ChaolAibhne I often fall asleep with visions of my next moves in my head - I don't see the problem 08-28/21:31 Hnefihunter: @Hagbard: Ok. Takk! 08-28/20:54 Hagbard: @Hnefihunter: It is when you've used your three dice. 08-28/20:46 mihkkal: @hagbard Thanks! 08-28/19:47 Hnefihunter: @Hagbard,The button Check my games is not displayed while playing Sáhkku. 08-28/19:38 Hagbard: thank you, fixed 08-28/16:19 mihkkal: There may be a bug in Saami Sáhkku. When I try to activate a soldier in a way that also pushes/recruits the king (because the king is immediately in front of the soldier to be activated) - the board doesn't load to reflect the new situation, leading to an inability to do the next move, and resultantly the turn needs to be restarted. In effect, activation+recruitment in one move becomes illegal - but it isn't. 08-27/06:49 casshern: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 08-27/06:48 casshern: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-26/08:18 Steiger: @MasterLuke, thank you! Making taflsets gives meaning to my existence. 08-25/22:26 MasterLuke: ... and they're very, very beautiful!! Congrats to Alexander ;) 08-25/20:53 Hagbard: New in gallery: photos of new boards from Alexander Steiger Dis. 08-24/19:09 ChaolAibhne: @Hagbard, what do you think of the idea of automatically posting a notification to the small forum whenever someone posts to the large forum? For example: MasterLuke has posted to "I've started to draw a few graphics for aagenielsen.dk" http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=120&start=160#p1477 08-24/13:36 ChaolAibhne: @MasterLuke, it is often a fine dividing line ;-) 08-24/11:15 Hagbard: ;) Does sound ominous! It was an unfortunate side effect of developing two new Saami games. It did not affect anything. 08-24/10:01 ChaolAibhne: Did I dream it as I fell asleep last night, or did Tournament 183 temporarily leap to having 14 participants and become an unrated *10 game? If the former, does that mean there is no hope for me if tafl is now appearing in my dreams? 08-23/20:29 MasterLuke: Check this out: a stroke of genius or maybe I'm a complete fool? http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=127&p=1478#p1478 08-23/08:10 Hagbard: The Tyr-3 15x15 tournament finished with #1 Jrton80, #2 Bogd khan, #3 Ded fomich 08-21/23:25 Waegn: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-21/23:12 Hagbard: There's not written a replay for the Sáhkku and the moves are not archived. 08-21/22:31 ChaolAibhne: @Hagbard, the replay facility for Sáhkku doesn't seem to display correctly, instead showing a Copenhagen-style board 08-21/18:17 Hagbard: New in gallery: photo and greeting from mihkkal. 08-21/12:49 Hagbard: Thank you! There is the thing of a piece's direction, a special characteristic of sahkku. Well, moving direction is part of all racing games, I suppose, but it's a speciality of sahkku that two neighbouring pieces can move in different directions. 08-21/11:25 MasterLuke: @Hagbard: I designed some pieces for the new sahkku game... Worth integrating in the game lay-out? See http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=120&p=1468#p1468 08-21/09:51 Hagbard: And I noticed that it was chosen for the Saami game box 08-21/09:50 mihkkal: @hagbard I'm stoked! Sørsamisk Dablo is one of my favorite games. 08-21/09:35 Hagbard: I'm working on the Sørsamisk. 08-21/09:28 mihkkal: @Hagbard I understand. It's so good to finally see a Sáhkku game for online play! And Dablo would be fantastic. Are you working with the South Sámi Dablo or Coast Sámi Dablo? 08-21/09:24 Hagbard: The feature of using the dice ordered from low to high values is from the Ráisa sahkku and helped the programming. Now I attempt to make a Dablo also, and after that succeeds, I'll return and have a second look at the dice - 08-21/08:10 mihkkal: One thing though: in the G/V variant of Sáhkku you may use your dice in any order you want. As far as I understand, the game is here implemented so the dice have to be used in a specific order. Is it possible to change this? 08-21/00:18 mihkkal: The Gávkevuotna/Vuovdaguoika variant is an interesting choice. The more popular ones currently are Lágesvuotna (used for tournaments) and Máze (easy to ( learn). But I'm happy to see Gávkevuotna/Vuovdaguoika getting attention, for two reasons. Firstly: It is most authentic. This variant is not reconstructed from written sources but taught from player to player. Second: This variant may have the oldest roots, seeing how it has been found independently in two different locations (Gávkevuotna and Vuovdaguoika. 08-20/22:05 MasterLuke: OK, thanks Hagbard. Not sure if I understand it completely. But I guess it will be clear once we're playing... :) 08-20/20:16 Hagbard: It is on page one of the game list now. It's described in Wikipedia as Vuovdaguoika or Gávkevuotna sáhkku: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sáhkku#Vuovdaguoika_or_Gávkevuotna_sáhkku 08-20/20:08 MasterLuke: @Hagbard: are the rules somewhere to read in English? I'm very curious about this game. Strange, just a few minutes ago I saw it listed under 'Play against humans' but now it's gone... (??) 08-20/16:10 Hagbard: These: https://result.uit.no/reaidu/vuovdaguoika-bircun/ 08-20/16:00 ChaolAibhne: @Hagbard, which rules are you using for Sáhkku? (The Wikipedia entry mentions several variants.) 08-20/11:57 Scuppa: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 08-20/11:57 Scuppa: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 08-20/11:56 Scuppa: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-20/00:40 tomdraug: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-20/00:37 Tomdraug: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 08-18/17:43 Hagbard: The Welsh Tawlbwrdd 11x11 tournament finished with #1 Casshern, #2 Chaolaibhne and L716 08-16/19:27 Adam: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-16/15:01 OdinHimself: @mihkal: Great, finally to hear something about hnefatafl from the vikings. 08-16/12:59 mihkkal: @Steiger I'm not involved in the production, just bringing the good news here :-) 08-16/08:14 Steiger: @mihkkal, well done! 08-16/00:01 mihkkal: Go to "Tidspunkter", then "Vikingene spilte prehistorisk sjakk." The broadcast ends with the statement: "Vi sees på Aagenielsen.dk" ("See you at Aagenielsen.dk") 08-15/23:56 mihkkal: Norwegian Public Radio about Tafl in the past and present! In Norwegian. Link: https://radio.nrk.no/serie/studio-2-p2/MKRD04016120 08-15/04:09 Jrton80: I looked at the new Tyr documentation - I love the Berserk move graphic - I got a real kick out of that. 08-14/17:09 casshern: @Germany: Speaking as umpire: Konstantin Jaehne ("sqAree") has won Germany Tournament to become the Germany Hnefatafl Champion 2020! Final results are 1st place sqAree with 4 points and 2nd place Luizz and Haio tied with 1 point each. Congratulations sqAree and thank you to all participants! 08-14/00:03 Hagbard: New in gallery: photos from Luk Martens. 08-13/22:55 MasterLuke: @ ChaolAibhne: Indeed, simple Tyr is conceived in relation to Tyr like 'Simple Tafl' is related to Historical Tafl. It's not the definitive version of Tyr, it will exist alongside 'regular' Tyr. That being said, I'm not quite sure which variant of Tyr will be the ultimate one: Tyr 1 (jumping commanders only), Tyr 2 (jumping commanders and king) or Tyr 3 (jumping commanders and king also jumping over own men). I'll make a decision once more test games or tournaments are played. In that respect, I'd be very happy with any feedback of the players. 08-13/00:49 ChaolAibhne: @Hagbard, nice work on the rating timeline! It's interesting to see my own progress over time and of others. Thanks for the quick development! 08-12/22:58 Hagbard: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 08-12/22:13 Gungnir: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-12/17:47 mihkkal: @hagbard @chaolaibhne Thanks for the interesting new function! 08-12/13:30 Hagbard: Timeline of rating: bottom of Games Archive Search page: http://aagenielsen.dk/visallespil_soeg.php 08-12/13:29 Hagbard: Simple Tyr is Tyr without special pieces. 08-12/10:21 ChaolAibhne: What's Simple Tyr? The intended definitive version of Tyr or another step on the way? 08-11/18:53 ChaolAibhne: @Hagbard, could I make a request for a feature to display a timeline of a player's rating? 08-10/16:06 Beartooth: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-10/16:05 Beartooth: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-09/09:03 Hagbard: @North America. Speaking as umpire: The North America tournament finished with the result: #1 Cacreal: 12 pt. (full house), #2 Garun19: 9 pt., #3 Jrton80: 8 pt., #4 Brench: 6.5 pt., #5 Holidayinnes: 4.5 pt., #6 Waegn: 2 pt., #7 Corbeau: 0 pt. 08-08/08:06 Hagbard: The Sea battle-2526 9x9 tournament finished with #1 Casshern, #2 Chaolaibhne, #3 Xerxes 08-08/07:57 Hagbard: @Steiger: yes later 08-07/17:16 Steiger: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-07/17:15 Steiger: @Hagbard, waiting for pictures!) 08-06/22:36 Tomdraug: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-06/22:12 Archibald K.: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-06/20:02 Hagbard: The Tablut/Dablo/Sáhkku game set arrived! Four boards and sets of pieces integrated in one box and very elegantly produced, a thousand thanks! 08-05/15:51 Ded Fomich: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 08-04/17:11 Fraech: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 08-03/06:53 Archibald K.: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-30/22:38 fastov: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-30/14:44 Haio: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-29/08:53 OdinHimself: @Gardariki: Speaking as umpire - official ranking as follows: 1st place and title for Ded Fomich with total score of 7 pts. and only one loss, 2nd place for L716 and Steiger, both equal results with 5 pts. and 3rd place for Hnefihunter with total of 3pts. Congratulations to the top 3 winners! 07-29/07:44 Haio: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-28/21:49 animals: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-28/21:49 animals: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-28/21:49 animals: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-28/16:05 Hnefihunter: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-28/04:13 holidayinnes: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/23:51 cacreal: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/23:51 cacreal: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/21:36 MasterLuke: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/18:50 Luizz: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/18:35 Steiger: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/18:34 ChaolAibhne: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/18:17 Bogd Khan: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/18:17 sqAree: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/17:20 xerxes: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/17:20 xerxes: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/17:14 mihkkal: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/15:23 Jrton80: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/11:19 L716: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-27/11:19 L716: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/10:54 test1: Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2020. 07-27/10:53 test1: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Saami Tablut) 07-27/10:53 test1: Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2020. (Copenhagen) 07-26/19:42 Hagbard: The Tyr-2 17x17 tournament finished with #1 Ded fomich, #2 L716 and Jrton80 07-25/09:03 Hagbard: Lead in Germany: Sqaree 3 pt. 07-22/22:31 Hagbard: It should only say so, if you already offered a draw. Because another click on the button will remove the offer. 07-22/22:18 Brench: Ok the button I see says No offer draw. That is a bit confusing. 07-22/19:28 Hagbard: @Brench, no you also offer a draw. 2 * offer draw = Draw. 07-22/18:33 Brench: Ive just been sent an offer of a draw in a game but I dont See an accept draw button. Do I just resign if I want to accept? 07-22/13:46 mihkkal: *competition 07-22/13:46 mihkkal: @Hagbard They are made by Petter Pegge Ericsson based on a Sámi tradition-inspired design by me, Astri Mari Nyborg and Ingemund Skålnes. For the occassion, Petter is selling them to me for a nice price, and I am donating them to the conpetition. 07-22/09:52 Masterluke: Oops... My former message was not complete. Below the missing final sentences. - Latest idea Id like to adapt is the ability for commanders of both armies (and of course the king) to jump over their own men too, like in the old strategic game Chivalry (and its successor Camelot). This will be called Tyr 3. - My goal is to end up with one version simply called TYR. As of this moment, the 15 x15 has the biggest chanche to come out as the best version (17x17 is close but a bit upractical when played on a smart phone) Eventually, Id like to create and sell a real-live game. So thanks for reading this. Comments and suggestions are very welcome. Some things can not be programmed, like the Varieagated men who can be killed only by other V-men, or a berserk move which combines jumping and capturing at the same time, as sugested by Ded Fomich. 07-22/09:49 Masterluke: Hello Everyone, Some of you have played Tyr, mainly in the tournaments... This is a wake-up call, Id like to see more people trying it, for its a real fun game, filled with action. ... :) Up until now the most enthusiastic players safe myself are Jrton80, L716, Hagbard, Ded Fomich and a few others. Id like to thank these people for playing Tyr. I wrote down the rules, initially to create a more playable game on a large board like Alea Evangelii or Alea Berserk. Ive written about it in the forum. Its not my goal to make an ultimate or the best tafl game, for its altogether a game different enough to co-exist alongside the other variants, while still respecting the original principles of Tafl. In the last months, I have altered the rules, with great help and feedback from Hagbard, all in a long-running proces to create a modern derivative of Tafl. Different board sizes have been tested. to sum it up: - the first version had a working title Alea Berserk Martens: this game featured four indestructible guards for the king, which cant be captured but cannot take part in captures. - the starting positioning of the commanders have been changed. Two instead of four guards - instead of helping the king, the guards seemed to be more a hindrance, so they were all deleted. (Alea Berserk Martens 2) - in the meantime I designed the pieces (as well as for many other game variants too) - Another re-positioning of some pieces. By now the game is called Tyr. A first tournament proved this game is very balanced. - A smaller size on 13x13 has been tested, but this one proved very unbalanced. - Tyr 2 (on 11x11, 13x13, 15x15 and 17x17 boards) features a king who can jump, like the commanders. Once again, the smaller sizes are very unbalanced and will be omitted in time. - Latest idea Id like to apply is the ability for commanders of both armies (and of course the king) to jump over their own men too, like in the old strategic game Chivalry (and its suc 07-21/20:55 MasterLuke: @ Ded Fomich: Thanks for reflecting your interesting thoughts on tafl and tyr ;) 07-21/19:24 Hagbard: Thank you, Adam, the battle field was tough. 07-21/19:12 Adam: Congratulations Hagbard on Norden win! 07-21/17:17 Ded Fomich: @OdinHimself @Steiger Благодаря, Лучо! Благодарю, Саня! Skál! 07-21/17:15 Ded Fomich: Thats why in my opinion theres nothing wrong with the implementation of new berserk movements variant (it can be called differently, ulfhednar movement for example), new variants of jumps, etc. Its a pity that there are technical limitations for all that things. Other Tyr rules already stretch outside the basis. They just continue the tafl-based games evolution. The main thing is that new gameplay has to be interesting, it has to be fun. New rules have to represent a series of interesting choices as Sid Meier once said. Then it will be a good game. I like his approach in games design. 07-21/17:13 Steiger: @Ded Fomich, Ура Фомичу! Приз твой, дядька, с доставкой определимся ;-) 07-21/17:08 Hagbard: @mihkkal: No hurry, though I look very much forward to see these games. Who is donating them? They will be brought along to the next classical board game day here in October, and the other instructors will be very envious. 07-21/17:06 Ded Fomich: But let me say some words about what you call tafl concept. This is just a terminology issue.I call it historical hnefatafl rules based on described by Linneaus game, because its the best documented body of rules, these rules are the root of all other modern rules. This just was determined by history. Its the basis. All other modern rules with new (corner exits, shieldwalls, strong king, unarmed king, etc.) or adopted (e.g., elements from Bells variant of Ludus Latrunculorum, Seega, High Jump) implementations are superstucture, they all are tafl-based games in my eyes, forgive me for writing such a subversive thing here. 07-21/16:59 Ded Fomich: @Masterluke Yes, Tyr is a very entertaining variant, Jrton80 convinced me to try it and I didnt regret it. I dont think that the word simplicity is the right word in relation to these rules in my case, I keep forgetting some of them during my games quite often, some of them couldnt be programmed, theres a number of bugs. Thats sad and its too complicated for me to keep all the information in my head. Im just getting used to it now. 07-21/16:53 OdinHimself: @ Gàrðaríki: Speaking as umpire: It seems like Ded Fomich has won the tournament and the prize, even though there are still two active games unfinished. No matter what the result is, he will be the 2020 Eastern champion! Congartulations! I will announce the final results once all the games are finished. 07-21/14:09 mihkkal: The Norden prize was mailed from Sweden to me a while ago but it's still in Sweden according to the tracking. It's being sent around the country a bit. I'll mail it to @Hagbard upon receiving it. 07-21/09:57 Hagbard: The Tyr-2 15x15 tournament finished with #1 L716, #2 Ded fomich and Masterluke 07-21/09:33 MasterLuke: @Ded Fomich: Happy tor read you like the Tyr-variant. I suppose it would be very difficult for Hagbard to programme a berserk move combining jumping and capturing at the same time. I also think it would harm the general simplicity of the rules a bit. The commanders, the 'variegated men' (traitors), the king and the normal soldiers make up for enough variety within the Tafl-concept. That being said, I'm already thinking of adding a new rule: what if the commanders (and the king) could jump over their own men too? It would extra drama to the game, and the balance will still be even, for it's applicable to both armies. 07-21/09:20 Hagbard: An interesting move it was. But the berserk move patterns are collected from ancient games related to tafl. It is a rather tricky bug to fix, probably better to rewrite the whole sections as winter's work. 07-21/06:52 Ded Fomich: But it was fun. It would be interesting if the berserk movement consisted of a series of captures and jumps in all possible combinations. 07-21/06:46 Ded Fomich: Thats sad, because I used this bug as a commanders feature at least in one more game during this tournament (I don't remember exactly in which one). Anyway I dont mind replaying those games from the moment of that move or replaying the entire games, doesnt matter. 07-20/23:04 Hagbard: @Jrton80: Not valid. It is the bug in the berserk routines. 07-20/21:46 Jrton80: @Hagbard the Match between Ded fomich and I, Tyr-2, move 55 - valid or not? 07-20/17:22 OdinHimself: Congratulations! 07-20/11:09 Hagbard: Thank you! I enjoyed the tournament! 07-20/11:06 mihkkal: Congratulations! 07-19/23:35 casshern: @Norden: Speaking as umpire: Hagbard has won the Norden tournament, to become the Norden Hnefatafl Champion 2020! The Norden tournament has finished with results: #1 Hagbard 5 pts, #2 Mihkkal 4 pts, #3 Adam 3 pts. Congratulations to Hagbard and all participants for a nice tournament! 07-19/17:13 Hagbard: @UK. Speaking as umpire: The UK tournament finished with the result: #1 Animals 4 pt. (full house), #2 Chaolaibhne 2 pt., #3 Xerxes 0 pt. 07-19/08:57 OdinHimself: Congratulations! 07-19/04:37 Hagbard: @North America. Speaking as umpire: Cacreal won the North America tournament, to become the North America Hnefatafl Champion 2020! 07-17/19:15 Hagbard: Thank you! 07-17/17:09 OdinHimself: Hagbard, on the photo of the Eastern gang: First from left to right is Dmitry Pashkov, then me, Fomich and Steiger last on the right. 07-17/14:21 animals: Thank you to ChaolAibhne and Xerxes for the fine competition. Good practice for the world championships! 07-17/12:11 mihkkal: I'm also wondering about what @MasterLuke says. I've made open calls for games and they are answered by someone who doesn't move or make one move only. It's strange. 07-17/11:33 Hagbard: New in gallery: a photo added to the Steiger series 17/6/2020. 07-17/11:13 xerxes: Congrats to Animals on winning the first UK National Championship (previous iterations have been English or Fetlar in Scotland). 07-17/08:51 Hagbard: Lead in Masters: Casshern. 07-17/08:36 Hagbard: Lead in Garthariki: Ded Fomich. 07-17/00:24 ChaolAibhne: Congratulations, Animals! 07-16/22:29 Hagbard: @UK. Speaking as umpire: Animals won the UK tournament, to become the UK National Hnefatafl Champion 2020! And with a full house, 4 pt. 07-16/12:10 Hagbard: Lead in UK: Animals 3 pt. 07-15/17:05 Hagbard: Nat., first group to finish: Rest-World: #1 Bogd khan, #2 Masterluke, #3 Сергей (no-show) 07-15/08:12 MasterLuke: What is it whit those newcomers who invite to play a game, make one move - or none at all - and then let the time run out??? 07-12/04:31 Hagbard: @North America. Speaking as umpire; no-shows: L3monman and Timeywimey never showed up for the tournament, and their games have timed out (Timeywimey made one move). The two are removed from the tournament. 07-12/04:12 Hagbard: Lead in Nordic: Hagbard 3 pt. 07-09/16:42 OdinHimself: Yes, my bad. I withdraw my proposal. 07-09/12:01 sqAree: Ah got it. Good point. A finale group of 4 or 5 players is indeed probably better then. 07-09/09:31 Hagbard: A tie in the sense that each player wins one game. 07-09/09:07 sqAree: Okay, but draws in Hnefatafl (Copenhagen) are extremely rare. Anyway I still think we should tweak the rules such that draws are impossible, but it won't make a practical difference. 07-09/08:13 Hagbard: Yes that's an idea. There is the practical aspect, that a tournament between the two top players one-on-one has a high risk of ending a tie. In a group of five, this risk is reduced. Fischer against Spassky had to play 21 games to find a winner. Each game lasted a few hours, while on the internet each game may last a few months... 07-08/20:50 OdinHimself: @Hagbard: Or we can do it like in boxing. The reigning world champion plays only two games against the strongest contender, who won the right to meet him in the top final. 07-07/15:29 Hagbard: Note about the World Tourn.: http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=1457#p1457 07-06/20:48 Hagbard: Lead in Garthariki: L716 3 pt. 07-05/09:07 Steiger: Ok, thank you! 07-05/08:00 Hagbard: Yes it is. The program does not discover the Fetlar draw fort and does not end the game with a draw automatically. So the two players both of them have to click on the "Offer Draw" button, which will end the game with a draw. 07-05/07:52 Steiger: Is Copenhagen exit fort a draw fort for Fetlar? 07-04/15:04 Hagbard: The Irish Brandubh 2 tournament finished with #1 Auskor, #2 Xerxes, #3 L716 and Unhandyandy 07-04/08:39 OdinHimself: @Hagbard: Splendid! 07-03/21:26 Hagbard: New in gallery: Midsummer Eve in Land of Legends, Denmark. 07-03/05:10 Jrton80: @casshern - ah, come on, you are going to beat my ass again? So sad :) 07-02/14:41 Hagbard: Lead in North America: Cacreal 3 pt. 07-01/07:56 Hagbard: Nationals first finished game: Cacreal / Holidayinnes 07-01/07:48 Hagbard: ok 06-30/23:52 casshern: @Hagbard: No umpire yet. Would you mind? Hopefully, all tournaments will run smoothly, without need for an umpire. 06-30/21:49 Hagbard: May Odin give you knowledge on your path. Nationals first move: Jrton80 06-30/19:55 Hagbard: Does the Masters group have an umpire? 06-30/15:46 Hagbard: @Brench: You wanna join the North American? You're in 06-30/15:20 Brench: Tournament? I just missed registration didnt I? 06-30/11:51 Steiger: @OdinHimself, but whole album remind me Isengard recorded by drunken in hell Fenriz!))) https://gnolder.bandcamp.com/track/de-fyra-ren 06-30/08:12 Haio: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-30/08:12 Haio: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-29/20:59 Hagbard: Deadline tomorrow 12 o'clock. 06-29/20:21 Hagbard: Since some players are now in two tournaments and could have a hard time, then perhaps just as well use the Russian timing for all? : 1 day per move. Time buffer 10 days. Long game threshold 20 days. 06-29/20:08 Hagbard: @Adam: ok 06-29/20:05 Adam: @Hagbard: I have joined the national tournaments and I believe that as a resident of Norway I qualify for the Norden Tablut 9x9? I would also like to join the Copenhagen Masters Tournament for some much needed axe sharpening! 06-29/19:57 Adam: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-29/13:43 Bogd Khan: Thank you, Mario! I'll be happy to join you 06-29/10:26 Hagbard: "Masters Tournament" with casshern, sqAree, OdinHimself and Bogd Khan? 06-28/23:30 casshern: @Bogd Khan: Will you join Odinhimself, sqAree, and myself in the Masters Tournament? 06-28/19:37 Steiger: @OdinHimself, nice tune. Something remind, not sure. 06-28/17:56 OdinHimself: For Steiger: https://gnolder.bandcamp.com/track/ntra-sm-lands-stenar Sounds familiar? :) 06-27/23:24 Hagbard: thebiggerfoot is the same as L3monMan, right? 06-27/19:06 Hagbard: Some of the missing names for the nat. tournaments: OdinHimself, cdafo, Archibald K., p59xy, unhandyandy, Brench, Iarann, jules, AreVidar, Mark-Sam, Fraech, Rossomaha, themightyglider and kAAgEE 06-27/17:53 Bogd Khan: I do prefer Copenhagen but it doesn't matter to me :) 06-27/12:13 Hagbard: 3 days left for registering for the national tournaments!! Deadline June 30th, 12 o'clock Danish time. 06-27/08:30 MasterLuke: I prefer Tablut, but I don't mind playing Copenhagen either :) 06-27/08:00 Hagbard: @"Rest-World": As for variant, Bogd Khan appears to much prefer Copenhagen? Sergej appears to much prefer Tablut? And Masterluke appears to play both variants? 06-26/12:06 Hagbard: Sergej, what would be your preferred variant? 06-25/22:08 garun19: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-25/22:07 garun19: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-25/18:58 TimeyWimey: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-25/10:37 Hagbard: @casshern: Splendid idea! I've put a comment in the large forum: http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=1453#p1453 06-25/08:44 OdinHimself: @casshern: Long gone are the days when I could resist you. :) Nevertheless I'll be honored if we cross swords one last time. 06-25/08:16 casshern: So I guess that means the Masters tournament is on? Honestly, I would have been happy if it were just me and Odinhimself. But, you my friend are second to none! It would be my pleasure to once again face off against you. 06-25/08:11 casshern: Lol, I mean, what do we do here: PLAY! 🤣 06-25/05:41 sqaree: I meant to say it's okay for me, not play for me. xD 06-25/05:41 sqAree: Hey casshern, we don't have an umpire yet, so I guess we gladly accept your offer! Thank you! Also I would probably join your Masters Tournament if it happens, it's play for me to have a few simultaneous games. 06-25/02:05 casshern: @Hagbard: I have withdrawn myself from the North American tournament. However, I have an idea for another tournament. Can we have a Masters Tournament, to start at the same time as the Nationals? I propose any player that either has a rating of 1600+ or has made it to any final of the WTC since 2014, which I believe is the first year that there were 2 stages/rounds. Rules would be Copenhagen. Same timing as Gàrðaríki group. Can you create a tab for Masters Tournament or players can register for National tournament and indicate here if there would like to join the Masters. Players like Sqaree, Stieger, Animals, etc, who would qualify for the Masters tournament, are invited, of course, if they are willing to play in two tournaments simultaneously. Adam, Odinhimself, and Bogd Khan are also invited of course!!! I very much enjoy playing with these fine gentlemen. And I think this would be a fine opportunity for Adam to get some extra practice before this big match! One last thing, does Germany have an umpire? If not, I wouldnt mind being the umpire for their tournament. 06-25/01:41 casshern: Deregisters from the National Tournament 2020. 06-24/23:02 Hagbard: The Historical Hnefatafl 13x13 tournament finished with #1 Ded fomich, #2 L716, #3 Cacreal 06-24/16:46 Steiger: Thanks, @Adam! I'll think about it. 06-24/16:12 Bogd Khan: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-24/12:43 Hagbard: It's a must see. Yesterday Midsummer Eve we were in the area for the bonfires, fantastic atmosphere. We bought annual passes because of this. The original hall also looked brand new 1300 years ago... It's all solid oak, very heavy, and people are allowed to touch it all (the helmet and the sword perhaps only with a guide), so in years it will have the used look. 06-24/12:28 Masterluke: That's okay with me, I prefer Tablut... By the way, I just saw the video (the link you posted) about the hall. I don't understand Danish, but I must say it's quite an impressive effort! If I ever come nearby, I'll surely visit it... With the modern machinery, it looks a bit too 'straight', too 'clean'... In viking times, the building would look much rougher. But now I'm hairsplitting, really... It's a fantastic building... 06-24/11:02 Hagbard: Germany chose Copenhagen. If "Rest-World" were to be Sergej and yourself, the choice would probably be Tablut. 06-24/10:59 Masterluke: The distance is of little importance, since it's played online, right? I just wondered which game I'll play. On the tournament page, I see both Copenhagen-rules and Tablut-rules, depending of the groups... 06-24/10:54 Hagbard: There could be a natural group Benelux & France? I take it that Belgium is too distant from Germany? Or else there's anyway the Rest-World with all players not in a group. 06-24/10:41 Masterluke: I just registered for the tournament. Being Belgian, in what section will I play, against who and which rules? I really jumped into the deep here :) 06-24/10:39 Masterluke: Registers for the National Tournament 2020. 06-24/10:38 Hagbard: https://www.tv2lorry.dk/sondagsmagasinet/vikingekongernes-hal 06-24/09:48 Adam: Hail makers of tafl boards! I have been invited to play Copenhagen Hnefatafl in a display game against a high ranking Norwegian chess player September 27th. Gulp. The location is a viking museum in Vestfold, Norway. They have a great shop and are keen to sell different Hnefatafl sets at the event and beyond. So if you have a Hnefatafl set product, from the individually hand crafted to the modern mass produced, let me know and Ill put you in touch with the event organiser. mail me on: bartley.adam@gmail.com And good luck to all in the Nationals! 06-24/09:14 Hagbard: New in the Nat.tourn. page: photos of the Norden prize. Also photo of the Garthariki prize. 06-24/08:03 Hagbard: The Tyr-2 13x13 tournament finished with #1 Ded fomich and L716, #3 Cacreal and Jrton80 06-23/21:39 mihkkal: There will be an award to the winner of the Norden Tablut tournament: A game set for Tablut, and some other games traditionally played by the Sámi, such as Dablo and Sáhkku. Board and pieces designed by me, Ingemund Skålnes, and Astri Mari Nyborg. Box designed and set made (laser cut wood and 3D print) by Petter Pegge Ericsson. 06-21/22:40 Ded Fomich: Сергей is probably going to be a national master as the only participant of the Moldavian tournament.