

originally posted by: introvert

a reply to: TerryMcGuire



"Deep state" has been a widley-used propaganda term recently. Mostly used by the Right Wing, including Fox News and other Right Wing media outlets, to build the narrative that there is a secret collaboration going on behind the scenes to bring Trump down.



It's nothing more than an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.



Too many people fell for it.

In this thread I'm going to explain why I strongly disagree with the above post. Not singling you out introvert, I've seen many people make this argument recently and I feel it deserves some rebuttal. The term "deep state" doesn't refer to some magical entity, it's referring to many different interwoven power structures that each work with common goals in mind. This is a conspiracy forum and any conspiracy theorist worth their salt should have some basic understanding that there are forces who work from the shadows to push world events in a certain direction.It's not just one small group of people sitting in a dark room smoking cigars, that is a childish dismissal of the true extent of their networks. For many years ATS members have discussed openly how there are puppet masters who work from behind the scenes to direct the actions of the President, these are forces connected to intelligence agencies and deeply embedded political figures like Clinton and McCain, they are the scum bags behind all the wars in the Middle East. Trump is dangerous to them because he will not take their directions so willingly and will resist them.Despite massive public outrage Obama supported the Syrian rebels for many years and continued to claim they were "moderates". That is a perfect example of the deep state, western intelligence agencies were covertly aiding terrorists for many years until Trump was able to stop the madness just recently. I say western intelligence agencies because it's a global thing we're talking about here, it's ultimately a push for globalism, they want to force liberal policies onto all nations just as we see happening in places such as France, UK, Australia, Canada, Sweden, etc.However the deep state is not just covert government groups, it includes the entertainment industry with the promotion of liberal agendas through celebrities. Then there's the MSM which is primarily controlled by liberal forces and also instructed to withhold stories or put a certain slant on some stories as they are directed by intelligence agencies. Long before Trump even became president it was obvious to me that most of the MSM was controlled by the same billionaires and corporations, often times reporting the same story word for word across most networks.That is one of the reasons I sought out alternative media sources in the first place, I could just sense the fake news all around me. I opposed the western support of Syrian rebels since day one and wrote several threads attempting to defend Assad from our heavily biased MSM assault. I pointed out many studies from different organizations indicating the rebels were actually the ones behind the chemical attacks, meanwhile the MSM just spewed fake news about Assad gassing his own people. Even the recent chemical attack was most likely caused by a missile impacting a rebel controlled chemical warehouse.Next there's the social media aspect, with the large platforms such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, all owned by liberal forces and as we learned from Snowden they also have secretive alliances with intelligence agencies. Recently we've seen independent reporters on YouTube being demonetized for being "too controversial" and we've seen Patreon ban right leaning activists like Lauren Southern essentially just because they don't agree with her opinion. Of course they made up some bogus claim about one of her campaigns being life threatening when it clearly wasn't, yet they allow anti-police antifa campaigns.There's also the academic side of things which trains our children to think with only a liberal mindset, just like in Hollywood people are pressured to think a certain way or risk being cast out and ridiculed. You cannot be considered an elite intellectual unless you believe in a certain ideology. It's not some grand conspiracy they have all agreed on, it's just the nature of our society and where we find ourselves, which is why the political shift we're seeing happening right now is important in order to balance out the field a little bit. It frightens the left because they are control freaks.They say it's progressive and good to legalize drugs because people should have a right to put what ever they want in their bodies, then they'll turn around and try to tell you what you can and cannot eat or drink, they'll try to tax sugary drinks or ban toys in unhealthy foods as the Australian government now wants to do. Screw the free market, the nanny state must protect you from yourself, and also from your kids because parents just cannot say no when their child asks for that happy meal. They speak in this self-righteous tone like what they're doing is so right it cannot possibly be wrong.Despite the fact the left has all this power throughout many different aspects of society I would still argue the right wing has been winning a lot over the last few months. Even with all this control they are still losing, and you may wonder why that is. I think the left has become complacent, they've become drunk on their own power and it has impaired their critical thought, they expect everything will just work its self out magically. The right can outplay you even with all those advanced tactics because we know how to get things done and we can do it without relying on underhanded tactics.Getting back on track and to finish up... all these different aspects of the "deep state" work together to mold the minds of people and create an illusory reality which they all live in. It's certainly no coincidence that we're now seeing a sudden burst in supposed Trump scandals, all of which I can pretty much guarantee with go no where like the countless scandals before them. It doesn't take a genius to see that powerful actors have been working since day once to discredit Trump and take him down, from the fake piss dossier to all the other Russian nonsense that has led no where. Yet we're the ones who believe in wild conspiracies.