Right-wing radio broadcaster Linda Harvey brought “ex-gay” activist Anne Paulk on the air this past weekend to discuss the impermanence of being or identifying as LGBT.

A repeat guest on the “Mission: America” program, Paulk spent half an hour hawking the work of her organization, Restored Hope Network, which is a collection of interdenominational ministries that promote “conversion therapy.”

Harvey was all ears as Paulk charged that LGBT people are responsible for “a great deal of grief” in their families, and asserted that the decision to come out of the closet “is like a death knell of all the future hopes of a parent.”

Paulk then compared identifying as gay to being trapped in a “roach motel,” which might lead people to “consider suicide.”

Unfortunately, not everyone could be successfully “saved” by the Restored Hope Network.