On nationally syndicated radio show host Sean Hannity’s show Friday, former Department of Homeland Security official Phil Haney expressed that the “implementation of sharia law” is the “global gravitational force of the global Islamic movement.”

“The gravitational force of the global Islamic movement is not radicalization; the gravitation force of the global Islamic movement is implementation of sharia law,” Haney said. “And the attempts to do that are tactical.”

The following is a transcript of Sean Hannity and Phil Haney’s comments:

Hannity: “Can I ask you both this question? To what extent, we always struggle with the distinction between ‘radical Islamists’ and ‘Muslims’ and people that are peaceful and want to pursue their religion. I’ve read the Qur’an, and I understand the literal interpretation. Based on your experience, Phil, and I ask you, Rich [Higgins], the same question. Phil first, what percentage do you believe, of Muslims in the Middle East, are radicalized?”

Haney: “I’d like to address it in a slightly different way. The way to ask the question is, what percentage of Muslims believe in sharia law?”

Hannity: “Okay. By the way, I love when I’m totally, I love when I’m totally corrected by a much smarter guest on the subject and asks my question for me. Go ahead, you ask the question and answer it. Go ahead.”

Haney: “The gravitational force of the global Islamic movement is not radicalization; the gravitation force of the global Islamic movement is implementation of sharia law. And the attempts to do that are tactical.

“And some of those tactical attempts, some of those tactics are identified arbitrarily as ‘radical,’ but it’s actually all part of a bigger effort to make sharia law implemented everywhere on the face of the earth.

“And there’s a spectrum of tactics – some are calm, persuasive. Other ones are violent, and we call them ‘radical,’ but it’s actually all the same gravitational force. It just depends on how close to the gravity you are.”

Hannity: “And what you’re describing, though, is so when Hillary takes money from all these countries that practice sharia law, she’s really taking it from a group of people that want to influence the government of the United States of America, and they’re buying their, they’re at least buying her silence at the very least. Is that a fair statement?”

Haney: “Well, one of the things I learned when I was active duty doing vetting is Saudi students coming in on what we call ‘F1 student visas’ is that their primary purpose for being here in the United States is not to get a degree, it was to promote Islam.

“And they were reminded of that in every class, every group that came in every year, that the Muslim Student Association groups around the country, the different organizations, ‘Remember why you’re here. It’s to promote and represent Islam in the United States of America.’”

Hannity: “But the goal is a worldwide dominating caliphate with sharia law as the law of the world.”

Haney: “Yes, it’s in Qur’an 2, Verse 190 through 193. That is the most concise explanation of the global strategic and tactical goals of Islam that you will find anywhere in the Qur’an. It tells you exactly what they intend to do and how they intend to go about it in three or four very concise verses: Qur’an 2, 190 through 193.”