After playing Charles Manson in both Mindhunter Season Two and Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood this summer, actor Damon Herriman says he never wants to play the infamous cult leader again. "I think twice is plenty," he told Esquire last week. And who could blame him? Herriman told us that he spent six months watching and reading everything he could on Manson.

"Mostly, once I'd had the basics and the information in terms of what had happened and who he was," Herriman said. "It was really just spending a lot of time just watching videos because, ultimately, I wanted to try and capture his voice and the way he moved and the essence of him, I guess."

Though most of his Manson scenes were cut from Tarantino's film—which might appear someday in an extended cut—his performance in Episode Five of Mindhunter Season Two is one of the highlights of the series so far.

And one Mindhunter fan managed to track down an old 1981 interview with Manson—the same time period the episode takes place—and placed it side-by-side with Herriman's Manson.

The result is chilling, how accurately Herriman was able to capture Manson's voice, his mannerisms, his presence. The 1981 interview is Manson's first since going to prison, and as the 60 Minutes caption reads, the "interview caused such a stir. Not only do we see Manson, cold and unrepentant—but we hear his thoughts on gaining parole and getting out of prison 'to play like a human.'"

You can watch the whole 1981 interview here, and see the incredible side-by-side below.

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