The Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins sat down for an interview with Ken Ham of Answers In Genesis when both men attended the National Religious Broadcasters convention earlier this year, during which Perkins warned that the Supreme Court will unleash total social chaos if it strikes down gay marriage bans and accused President Obama of endangering America by supporting marriage equality.

Perkins said that any Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage would be akin to the ruling legalizing abortion as he warned that anti-gay Christians will never accept it.

“If they think, like they did in 1973, that they’re going to solve this issue by forcing it on the nation, they’re wrong,” Perkins declared. “They’re not going to force a redefinition on Americans that they will accept. They will, I believe, launch us into the most tumultuous time culturally that I think our nation has ever seen.”

He went on to assert that the fight for marriage equality is not a civil rights issue because gays are not a “disenfranchised minority” as evidenced by the fact that the movement has lots of political influence, including with President Obama.

“The president is trying to do this,” Perkins said. “The president has used the military to do this. The president has endangered our country, he has endangered our country and our future to advance his radical social agenda”: