



I am pretty sure I am the one that accused you of self-promotion unless there was someone else also.



I am the most interested in the data and video that you say you'll release later because it will basically be the cliff notes version of this report. I am interested in that because it in a sense takes the human element out of these tests. The only problem I have with the tests in this report is that you are relying on an individual's perception and for them to document that perception of what they see. I get why you did it like you did.. Not everyone has the equipment to make absolute control tests possible.



I am not very surprised at the results of the test either. I have no time behind a mro or an lco, but I have pretty well used all the others in your test. I own few of models tested .It is understandable that the EOTech has some of the best numbers in your test because of how the system works. It is basically a projection image rather than working on reflection like some of the other designs.



Red dots are great, some are better than others obviously. One thing that the 26 years of Rimfire and Centerfire experience has shown me is that Optics or any sights are only as good as how you use them. It still requires due diligence on the user's part. Especially in the world of magnified Optics. Magnified Scopes are extremely sensitive to having the reticle centered when using them. The vast majority of the shooting that I do is with magnified Optics because I just tend to shoot at much longer distance than 50-100 yards. I understand the majority of guys here from back east and the ranges tend to be shorter. It's not something I honestly ever think about when I'm shooting. But that's the difference, I've done it so much that it's completely second nature to me. to an individual that has not done it a long time I could see where the mistake of not having things lined up properly gets made.



Having said that, I do understand your perspective from the world of armed type Assualt, it's very hard to argue that having parralax is a good thing. In the perfect world a parallax free optic is obviously optimal. Speed and accuracy always wins the day in that element. Some of the Optics that were in the test show that when using a point of aim on the extreme edge of the optic, complete misses. are very possible even though the dot was on the target.



I have always felt that all of the claims of Parallax free from manufactures is always just something to make people feel good. Anyone that has done any real amount of shooting for any real amount of time, knows that that's just not the case. It still takes fundamentals to make all the things line up and work properly.



Having said all of that, I hope that all of your work in the report that you made, will do positive things. Maybe it'll make a few more people pay attention and what they're doing with head position and Markman ship fundamentals type stuff. I think the greatest thing your report can/may possibly accomplish is for the manufacturers to finally actually admit that their shit is not very parralax free and maybe they would actually make one that is someday. That would certainly make life a lot easier for everyone. Having more bad guys deaded isn't a bad thing in my opinion.



Sorry if I came across as an asshole initially back when this started. You and I just have different philosophies on how to accomplish the same goal.



My Philosophy is less equipment and more fundamentals. Your philosophy is the equipment shouldn't suck. (And honestly I don't disagree with you there either.) It's just that the perfect Red Dot doesn't seem to exist yet in my opinion. My opinion is that the perfect Red Dot would be an EOTech type reticle, with the EOTech Type window, EOTech field of view, AimPoint reliability and battery life, and slim like an AimPoint, with TO weight.Having one of those would be a great day.



Even if that day does come, the proliferation of Optics that do have Parallax are going to be around for quite some time.



I'm just happy I can start using my EOTech in public again without my buddies giving me as much shit now. I have to admit this is quite an excellent report Dopushups.I am pretty sure I am the one that accused you of self-promotion unless there was someone else also.I am the most interested in the data and video that you say you'll release later because it will basically be the cliff notes version of this report. I am interested in that because it in a sense takes the human element out of these tests. The only problem I have with the tests in this report is that you are relying on an individual's perception and for them to document that perception of what they see. I get why you did it like you did.. Not everyone has the equipment to make absolute control tests possible.I am not very surprised at the results of the test either. I have no time behind a mro or an lco, but I have pretty well used all the others in your test. I own few of models tested .It is understandable that the EOTech has some of the best numbers in your test because of how the system works. It is basically a projection image rather than working on reflection like some of the other designs.Red dots are great, some are better than others obviously. One thing that the 26 years of Rimfire and Centerfire experience has shown me is that Optics or any sights are only as good as how you use them. It still requires due diligence on the user's part. Especially in the world of magnified Optics. Magnified Scopes are extremely sensitive to having the reticle centered when using them. The vast majority of the shooting that I do is with magnified Optics because I just tend to shoot at much longer distance than 50-100 yards. I understand the majority of guys here from back east and the ranges tend to be shorter. It's not something I honestly ever think about when I'm shooting. But that's the difference, I've done it so much that it's completely second nature to me. to an individual that has not done it a long time I could see where the mistake of not having things lined up properly gets made.Having said that, I do understand your perspective from the world of armed type Assualt, it's very hard to argue that having parralax is a good thing. In the perfect world a parallax free optic is obviously optimal. Speed and accuracy always wins the day in that element. Some of the Optics that were in the test show that when using a point of aim on the extreme edge of the optic, complete misses. are very possible even though the dot was on the target.I have always felt that all of the claims of Parallax free from manufactures is always just something to make people feel good. Anyone that has done any real amount of shooting for any real amount of time, knows that that's just not the case. It still takes fundamentals to make all the things line up and work properly.Having said all of that, I hope that all of your work in the report that you made, will do positive things. Maybe it'll make a few more people pay attention and what they're doing with head position and Markman ship fundamentals type stuff. I think the greatest thing your report can/may possibly accomplish is for the manufacturers to finally actually admit that their shit is not very parralax free and maybe they would actually make one that is someday. That would certainly make life a lot easier for everyone. Having more bad guys deaded isn't a bad thing in my opinion.Sorry if I came across as an asshole initially back when this started. You and I just have different philosophies on how to accomplish the same goal.My Philosophy is less equipment and more fundamentals. Your philosophy is the equipment shouldn't suck. (And honestly I don't disagree with you there either.) It's just that the perfect Red Dot doesn't seem to exist yet in my opinion. My opinion is that the perfect Red Dot would be an EOTech type reticle, with the EOTech Type window, EOTech field of view, AimPoint reliability and battery life, and slim like an AimPoint, with TO weight.Having one of those would be a great day.Even if that day does come, the proliferation of Optics that do have Parallax are going to be around for quite some time.I'm just happy I can start using my EOTech in public again without my buddies giving me as much shit now.