BANNON: There's nothing to the Russia investigation. It's a waste of time.

ROSE: What do you believe? You know what the national security institutions believe. What do you believe?

BANNON: What do you mean, what they believe? We don't really — I mean — that there may have been — I — I think — look, I was there —

ROSE: No, no, no, you were — you —

BANNON: It's a total and complete farce. Russian collusion is a farce.

ROSE: Okay, I didn't say “collusion.” Did the Russians try to influence the election?