Listings for Titans Return Optimus Primal and Toraizer Titan Masters found

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steals_your_goats , we finally have some news about some upcoming post-Wave 5 Titans Return products -- Hasbro's German Amazon account is currently listing Titan Masters for



Courtesy of fellow board member, we finally have some news about some upcoming post-Wave 5 Titans Return products -- Hasbro's German Amazon account is currently listing Titan Masters for Optimus Primal under the product code C2389ES1, as well as Toraizer under the product code C2390ES1 . These naturally refer to the Maximal leader from Beast Wars, and another of the Autobot Master Warriors exclusive to Japan from the same group as previous Titan Master releases Sawback and Shuffler (see photo of G1 toy below). Both are currently unavailable and don't even have any images or details; but keep and eye out, check out the links provided and tell us what you think of these listings in the forums!

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I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. Posted by Kurona on July 9th, 2017 @ 9:53am CDT

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Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold? Posted by Cobotron on July 9th, 2017 @ 9:57am CDT

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Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! Posted by Kurona on July 9th, 2017 @ 9:58am CDT

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Kurona wrote: Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!!

Or just a new head remold of the Lione vehicle Or just a new head remold of the Lione vehicle Posted by steals_your_goats on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:01am CDT

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Kurona wrote: Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro. So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro. Posted by Cobotron on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:02am CDT

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Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro. So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro.

It's more or less due to how Japanese phonetics work if I remember correctly. A more accurate spelling might be 'Trizer'. It's more or less due to how Japanese phonetics work if I remember correctly. A more accurate spelling might be 'Trizer'. Posted by Kurona on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:08am CDT

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Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!! So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro. So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro.



Nope. Toraizer's name comes from "Tora", the Japanese word for Tiger. That's why his name is transliterated the way it is, to leave that part visible. It was done as Trizer for the inspired-by toy Alpha Trizer, however



The bull would be an Autobot Master Warrior that was drawn up but not produced (the other unproduced designs would be a dugong, a cobra, and a rhino - this rhino would be where Titan Master Ramhorn's head-mode face comes from)



Toraizer, on the other hand, is one of the six who were actually made. With him we have the three animal Master Warriors, plus Ramhorn as an unproduced one. The three humanoid ones (Loafer, Rodney, and Kirk) appear to be out of luck, however. Nope. Toraizer's name comes from "Tora", the Japanese word for Tiger. That's why his name is transliterated the way it is, to leave that part visible. It was done as Trizer for the inspired-by toy Alpha Trizer, howeverThe bull would be an Autobot Master Warrior that was drawn up but not produced (the other unproduced designs would be a dugong, a cobra, and a rhino - this rhino would be where Titan Master Ramhorn's head-mode face comes from)Toraizer, on the other hand, is one of the six who were actually made. With him we have the three animal Master Warriors, plus Ramhorn as an unproduced one. The three humanoid ones (Loafer, Rodney, and Kirk) appear to be out of luck, however. Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:24am CDT

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Yeah, I am really hoping we see the rumored Arcee Titan Master confirmed. Posted by bodrock on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:25am CDT

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Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold?



The wiki for your reading:



and attached is a shot of some of the unproduced designs



Edit: Link to Seibertron's news and imagary - The wiki for your reading: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toraizer and attached is a shot of some of the unproduced designsEdit: Link to Seibertron's news and imagary - https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ned/37415/ Posted by ThunderThruster on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:47am CDT

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Nani? Arcee Titan Master? Hopefully she'll be more bulky just like the upcoming Windblade. And a better face!



Really hoped they'd make some non-G1 characters into Titans Return. Remold Hardhead into Demolisher. Or any of the Unicron Trilogy.



These Titans Return figures are so well put together, really. HasTak is making so much awesome stuff. Posted by noctorro on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:49am CDT

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Toraizer will probably be a repaint/retool of Sawbuck/Lione like my Digibash



http://leokearon.deviantart.com/art/Dig ... -680516510

Optimus primal could be a US release of the Optimal Optimus Apeface repaint that came with Convoybat.Toraizer will probably be a repaint/retool of Sawbuck/Lione like my Digibash Posted by leokearon on July 9th, 2017 @ 11:05am CDT

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Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor. Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 9th, 2017 @ 11:13am CDT

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

What's wrong with G2 Menasor? What's wrong with G2 Menasor? Posted by steals_your_goats on July 9th, 2017 @ 11:20am CDT

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steals_your_goats wrote: ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

What's wrong with G2 Menasor? What's wrong with G2 Menasor?

Not necessarily that he looks bad... but it ended up being based on a fan's digibash on Deviantart rather than the actual original G2 Menasor toy. Lol. Not necessarily that he looks bad... but it ended up being based on a fan's digibash on Deviantart rather than the actual original G2 Menasor toy. Lol. Posted by Kurona on July 9th, 2017 @ 11:30am CDT

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Kurona wrote: steals_your_goats wrote: ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

What's wrong with G2 Menasor? What's wrong with G2 Menasor?

Not necessarily that he looks bad... but it ended up being based on a fan's digibash on Deviantart rather than the actual original G2 Menasor toy. Lol. Not necessarily that he looks bad... but it ended up being based on a fan's digibash on Deviantart rather than the actual original G2 Menasor toy. Lol.

Is it though? Every single picture I've seen of the original G2 stunticons look like what we got in combiner wars. Is it though? Every single picture I've seen of the original G2 stunticons look like what we got in combiner wars. Posted by steals_your_goats on July 9th, 2017 @ 11:54am CDT

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Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

Yeah, thats what I am thinking too.



And Cobo, Toraiser is the third Japan only headmaster that turned into an animal and then into a head (with no robot mode).







So now we will have the whole set in TR Yeah, thats what I am thinking too.And Cobo, Toraiser is the third Japan only headmaster that turned into an animal and then into a head (with no robot mode).So now we will have the whole set in TR Posted by william-james88 on July 9th, 2017 @ 1:03pm CDT

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william-james88 wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

Yeah, thats what I am thinking too.



And Cobo, Toraiser is the third Japan only headmaster that turned into an animal and then into a head (with no robot mode).







So now we will have the whole set in TR Yeah, thats what I am thinking too.And Cobo, Toraiser is the third Japan only headmaster that turned into an animal and then into a head (with no robot mode).So now we will have the whole set in TR Aha! I see, so he was an actual produced character. Cool! Tor, Toro, lead me to the Buffalo unproduced one in my mind.



I read this first on my phone, but had to run to my PC to get a better look at the pic. I had to make sure that Shuffler wasn't TR Shuffler. Man he looks like the original!



Also, Will, you typed my real name! Aha! I see, so he was an actual produced character. Cool! Tor, Toro, lead me to the Buffalo unproduced one in my mind.I read this first on my phone, but had to run to my PC to get a better look at the pic. I had to make sure that Shuffler wasn't TR Shuffler. Man he looks like the original! Posted by Cobotron on July 9th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CDT

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ThunderThruster wrote: Cobotron wrote: Kurona wrote: I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface. You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.



New mold? You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.New mold?



The wiki for your reading:



and attached is a shot of some of the unproduced designs



Edit: Link to Seibertron's news and imagary - The wiki for your reading: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toraizer and attached is a shot of some of the unproduced designsEdit: Link to Seibertron's news and imagary - https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ned/37415/



Should be interesting repaint of what figure looks like didn't like ape face figure

But color for apeface figure maybe something that may be impressive possibly new headmaster for this figure Should be interesting repaint of what figure looks like didn't like ape face figureBut color for apeface figure maybe something that may be impressive possibly new headmaster for this figure Posted by dragons on July 9th, 2017 @ 1:31pm CDT

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Optimus Prim al ? Yeah, I can see that more than an all-new Optimus Prim e Titan Master with Vehicle. I do find it odd that Ramhorn was released ahead of the others if we're going by their product codes. Goof up maybe? Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 9th, 2017 @ 2:40pm CDT