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Sad News Posted by Dave

Posted on March 8, 2015, 10:08 am NST





We are unsure what Jumpstart's plans are going forward, especially with the app they just released, but the TNTers that have made Neopets what it was over the past 15 years will not all be part of it.



The JN Staff would like to give all of TNT a big thank you and congratulations on an amazing 15 year run. Despite a little complaining along the way, Neopets shaped a lot of us. (Who knew a web game from 1999 would be online in its original form in 2015??) Best of luck to all of the TNTers looking for new jobs!



Edit: To clarify, no, Neopets is not closing anytime soon that we have heard. However, with all of the people who were creating the content gone, it likely will not be the same Neopets we've all come to know and love (and complain about ). You can't simply have new employees come into the mix and expect them to know how the Altador Cup works or who Dr. Sloth is without a lot of prep and training.



That being said, this post was made so that the Neopian public could be made aware of what is happening and decide on what they would like to do going forward. We thought that the paying customers in particular (Premium subscribers and NC buyers) should know this information and decide on what purchases they would like to make in the future.



UPDATE: Statement from Jumpstart: (9 Mar 2015 - 12:35 pm)



The CEO of Jumpstart, David Lord, has released a statement relating to the current state of Neopets. This has been posted in TNT's



A Message from JumpStart CEO, David Lord , 9th March, 2015 To our Neopets Members and Community:



Unfortunately, a recent restructuring of our resources means a number of respected employees working on Neopets are no longer with the company. JumpStart appreciates each and every one of our employees, and it was a sad day to have to say goodbye to our friends. While it's disheartening to see team members leaving the company, we are incredibly thankful for everything they have done to create Neopets.com and the passionate community that surrounds the site.



Moving forward, we want to make it absolutely and unequivocally clear that we are committed to Neopets! Neopets is NOT CLOSING in any way. To the contrary, we plan to produce new content, update the site, and dedicate valuable resources towards improving site functionality, including lag and site stability. In fact, the recent launch of Neopets Ghoul Catchers on the iTunes and Facebook platforms confirms our dedication to launching new and exciting content for existing and new Neopets users.



As we move forward and establish new goals for Neopets, we want the community to know that we are fully committed to the success of Neopets. We will work to support, improve and expand Neopets with our best resources and most creative minds. We thank you for your unwavering support of Neopets and we believe you will be as excited about the future as we are.



We wish all of the amazing former Neopets team members the very best life has to offer and we are grateful for their time at Jumpstart.



- David Lord, CEO of JumpStart NOT closing, and that resources will be spent improving site stability (the lag), as well as creating new content. While this unfortunately means we have lost The Neopets Team as we once knew them, Jumpstart will hopefully be working tirelessly over the coming weeks and months to produce new and exciting ways to keep the Neopets we love alive. Follow @jellyneo on Twitter for all the latest #Neopets news! I have some sad news to report. Early Friday afternoon, most of The Neopets Team was laid off. According to our source, there are only a handful of programmers left, along with the support team and the monitor team. This is why we did not get news on Friday, and why the NC items released over this weekend do not have images.We are unsure what Jumpstart's plans are going forward, especially with the app they just released, but the TNTers that have made Neopets what it was over the past 15 years will not all be part of it.The JN Staff would like to give all of TNT a big thank you and congratulations on an amazing 15 year run. Despite a little complaining along the way, Neopets shaped a lot of us. (Who knew a web game from 1999 would be online in its original form in 2015??) Best of luck to all of the TNTers looking for new jobs!To clarify, no, Neopets is not closing anytime soon that we have heard. However, with all of the people who were creating the content gone, it likely will not be the same Neopets we've all come to know and love (and complain about). You can't simply have new employees come into the mix and expect them to know how the Altador Cup works or who Dr. Sloth is without a lot of prep and training.That being said, this post was made so that the Neopian public could be made aware of what is happening and decide on what they would like to do going forward. We thought that the paying customers in particular (Premium subscribers and NC buyers) should know this information and decide on what purchases they would like to make in the future.(9 Mar 2015 - 12:35 pm)The CEO of Jumpstart, David Lord, has released a statement relating to the current state of Neopets. This has been posted in TNT's Official Message Board , as well as on Facebook He is adamant that Neopets isclosing, and that resources will be spent improving site stability (the lag), as well as creating new content. While this unfortunately means we have lost The Neopets Team as we once knew them, Jumpstart will hopefully be working tirelessly over the coming weeks and months to produce new and exciting ways to keep the Neopets we love alive.

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recklesse , March 8, 2015 10:10 AM NST Very sad indeed.



I wish the staff all the best for the future.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 10:12 AM NST



As much as I complained about Neopets in the past year, it was great until then... And the complaining was mostly just a desire to see it return to its former glory. I don't see that being possible at all now. So sad...As much as I complained about Neopets in the past year, it was great until then... And the complaining was mostly just a desire to see it return to its former glory. I don't see that being possible at all now.

nclvr619 , March 8, 2015 10:15 AM NST I've heard rumors everywhere that neo might not be with us much longer... hopefully that's not true because ive been with neo for most of the 15 years and spend a lot of money on NC over the years... I know the cant refund anyone if they do but it still upset me...

gabtena , March 8, 2015 10:16 AM NST And so we say goodbye to neopets...

mollyscribbles , March 8, 2015 10:16 AM NST This is a very bad sign. It feels like every game I'm on is closing down; I don't have an iphone and I'm not really interested in app games, but that's what every site seems to be switching to now.

shroomy , March 8, 2015 10:17 AM NST It's sad hearing this happened to the people responsible for such a hefty chunk of my life.



I wish them all well and the best of luck.



ah.. I'm tearing up now....

vincent7577 , March 8, 2015 10:18 AM NST Right after the daily faerie quests and the reduced Fortune Cookie costs.



To the very last dollar, my friends. To the very last dollar.

ctp02 , March 8, 2015 10:19 AM NST Sooo... Is gonna end like this? Kinda Sad.

wolfheartmoon , March 8, 2015 10:19 AM NST I'm saving all my pets to my computer. Learning this has put me into paranoid mode. Well, at least I finally got my dream pet thanks to a FFQ. *sighs*

sawkinator2 , March 8, 2015 10:19 AM NST I've spent half my life with this website - what would I do without it??



Not to mention this is just kind of a move on JS's part. All these people will have to find new jobs now, and who knows how easy that will be with the economy as it is.



None of this is looking good at all. I'm panicking that this will be the end of NeopetsI've spent half my life with this website - what would I do without it??Not to mention this is just kind of a move on JS's part. All these people will have to find new jobs now, and who knows how easy that will be with the economy as it is.None of this is looking good at all.

sailorganymede , March 8, 2015 10:20 AM NST I'm scared, frightened and confused, someone hold me.

pancaketime , March 8, 2015 10:20 AM NST Big thanks to TNT, if any of them see this. I've been an active player for over 14 years now (and REALLY active - I've at least logged on to feed my pets almost every single day since I created my account, minus only a handful of internet-free vacation days). So, thank you for being a big part of my life, and good luck in the future.

tyuio_k50 , March 8, 2015 10:20 AM NST



This went South. JumpStart has proven worse that Viacom and Doug Dohring combined.



They're destroying the very thing that was so precious to my childhood. This went South. JumpStart has proven worse that Viacom and Doug Dohring combined.They're destroying the very thing that was so precious to my childhood.

yukidaviji , March 8, 2015 10:21 AM NST This is most likely the reason I've been waiting for 3 days to get my rewards from Ghoul Catchers.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:21 AM NST *sighs* I think I'll be cancelling my Premium before May.



Thank you, Dave. Thank you for posting this. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Jellyneo will always hold a dearer place in my heart than even neopets has been, especially because of what's been going on as of late.



It's good to know, and this is heartbreaking. It's much better to know than not to know, though.

john3637881 , March 8, 2015 10:23 AM NST This is the end of the site. I don't even know what to say. I've been mad at the staff time and again, but like Nick, but mostly because I would like to see the site as it once was.



But then it occurred to me that maybe we've all been delusional this whole time. Even if the site was made exactly the way we wanted it, would it still be fun? We've all grown up; it wouldn't be the same, or what we remembered it as.



Either way, Neopets has meant so much to me, so I'm very sad to see it end like this. However, the site will never truly die for me until I decide to do away with the continuity and characters I've created with my friends, something I will never do. This continuity and the characters involved in it are to me the greatest thing I or my friends ever did on Neopets. So Neopets may die, but Scorto, Toady, Blumu, and all the other great characters we created will live on forever.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 10:24 AM NST To clarify, the site is not shutting down... We just don't know how it will continue on with such a small amount of staff. Lots of things will inevitably need to be cut, even more than already has been, and that will likely drive users away even more.

cdrex22 , March 8, 2015 10:25 AM NST Always possible that they just have plans for a complete remake with new staff. But still, very upsetting news.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:25 AM NST Good thing my Premium ends in may. *laughs bitterly* The content's been going downhill for years, I suppose. Should've seen the end when they redrew Mossy Rocks. I don't care for a lot of the newer art, there isn't anything in terms of pets I really dream of, would've liked to get that red Korbat out of pound_release before the end, though.



I loved this site, though. No matter what I could find to complain about and have been bitter about, it's because at the heart of it all I love neopets.



Neopets has held a place in my heart since I was eight years old, and through years of memories I still would rather have it open in this state than closed forever. So be it, though.

tyuio_k50 , March 8, 2015 10:25 AM NST To clarify, the site is not shutting down...



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Not immediately, no. But at this pace, it's steadily sinking into it's grave.

nemi , March 8, 2015 10:26 AM NST This worries me. Neopets will not be the same without them, I'm sure. Their personality and humour is all over this game making it what it is and I'm not sure I want to see what becomes of Neopets without them. I wish them all luck and I hope they all go on to greater things.

And I think I'll stay away from buying any NC for at least a year so I can see what the actual result of this is before I give them any more of my money... This worries me. Neopets will not be the same without them, I'm sure. Their personality and humour is all over this game making it what it is and I'm not sure I want to see what becomes of Neopets without them. I wish them all luck and I hope they all go on to greater things.And I think I'll stay away from buying any NC for at least a year so I can see what the actual result of this is before I give them any more of my money...

khaytra , March 8, 2015 10:26 AM NST I don't think this means the end of Neo, to be honest. Jumpstart is the one who helped them really bring together Ghoul Catchers, right? I doubt JS would dedicate their resources to Neo only to completely cut it less than seventy-two hours after the launch of it. That's just bad business. (Although, buying something like Neopets might not have been a masterstroke either... )

If JS restocks TNT with new employees, it might be a very good thing. Honestly, most of us were becoming very frustrated with the team and how the site was (or wasn't) developing and progressing. The team just wasn't right for the site anymore.

So this might not be too bad.

Or, it could be really bad and signal the end, and I'm just a delusional optimist.

Either way, a massive thank you to the team that has been with me since I was about 10. Your site has been with me for half my life. Thank you for all that you did <3

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:27 AM NST Nick, darling, if anyone knows how I can volunteer there while living nowhere near California, let me know. lol *munches on a Mossy Rock*



There's been little new content that I've fallen in love with in a while, so I suppose I can live without new content. I'd be alright with that.



Would still love the neopian times to be back, but I suppose I can live with just the neoboards and what's remaining of the site I love. I mean, I'm still in love with Classic Neohomes and there's been NOTHING new there in years and years - yet I still love and enjoy them from the bottom of my heart.

shad0wofadoubt , March 8, 2015 10:28 AM NST Perhaps if they devoted more of their time to pleasing their users rather than the NC Mall more interest would have been generated by the community, and we wouldn't be in this situation.



Let's be honest though. We knew this was going to happen after Snarkie left. You just don't up and leave a job that you clearly love after so many years.



I'm predicting the site ends up like something similar to Club Penguin and it quickly falls apart.



R.I.P.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 10:29 AM NST



Personally, I wouldn't want anything to do with Ghoul Catchers if it weren't for Neopets.com, though... but you can read my review on that through the other news post. @khaytra: Even without Neopets.com, JumpStart will still own the Neopets intellectual property as well as Ghoul Catchers. The game and any other games they choose to make using Neopets' intellectual property can exist in their own space without the website behind it.Personally, I wouldn't want anything to do with Ghoul Catchers if it weren't for Neopets.com, though... but you can read my review on that through the other news post.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:30 AM NST Ooh, guys, does this mean there WON'T be any more new NC items?!?!?!?!?!? *party emoticons of all sorts* ... If it does then I can be happy with this.

petodiepet , March 8, 2015 10:30 AM NST Lay offs are not firings. Lay offs mean the company is not employing people at this time for the positions they filled.



just sayin'...

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 10:33 AM NST I'm expecting something similar to what happened with Petpet Park... No updates for months with no response from support. The site goes completely stale and then suddenly, one day, possibly a great while from now, a message is posted saying that the doors have closed. :/

gabtena , March 8, 2015 10:33 AM NST you cant see userlookups anymore, btw..

kelsyjones , March 8, 2015 10:33 AM NST This is very unfortunate... Best of luck to TNT in finding new jobs. I'm really hoping that the release of the new app means Jumpstart isn't giving up on the site entirely.

nclvr619 , March 8, 2015 10:33 AM NST I remember when I was 8 and my mom had to make an account for me (even though I think you had to be 12??? ) anyway she had to make my pw my name so I didn't forget... (its not that anymore of course :p ) but I remember calling my best friend who was also a die hard fan so we could play all the games together and eventually Key quest came and we'd play for hours... man this was my entire childhood. please don't let it end. I feel like my little pixel pets are my children and it makes me sad to think I wouldn't have them anymore.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:34 AM NST @nick: Oh, Heavens, not a repeat of Petpet Park. *sighs and munches on a Fashion Fruit*



Time to start taking screenies of EVERYTHING, JoIsle! *twitchy eyeed emoticon*

labpartnerincrime - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 10:34 AM NST



As far as the future, I hope they put the brand they bought to good use. Whether that's more apps or a whole new site in a couple years, who knows, but I don't want to see this all go to waste.



Hopefully the site at least lasts through the end of the year. In a perfect world, I'd want to see the site stay up until they just flip a switch over one day to a new Neopets on a completely from scratch codebase (aka not still using 1999 code ).



All we have right now is hope. NC and Premium are sunk costs. I paid for the fun I had and to support the site at that time. Even though I'm a bit annoyed my premium renewed last month, I'm not going to regret the money spent for the fun times that were had.As far as the future, I hope they put the brand they bought to good use. Whether that's more apps or a whole new site in a couple years, who knows, but I don't want to see this all go to waste.Hopefully the site at least lasts through the end of the year. In a perfect world, I'd want to see the site stay up until they just flip a switch over one day to a new Neopets on a completely from scratch codebase (aka not still using 1999 code).All we have right now is hope.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:36 AM NST @labpartnerincrime: I'm done with hope.



*munches on fashion fruit and believes in Nick's view because that's what happened to sites I've loved in the past*

pikachu315111 , March 8, 2015 10:36 AM NST I post my thoughts on the NTWF here:



http://ntwriters.proboards.com/thread/51711/out-why-site-laggy?page=1&scrollTo=2643351



I don't know what else to say, I can't believe this has happened. I can only hope that Neopets can sort of "restart" by first stabilizing and then working its way back up (sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before going back up, as they say).



I just want to thank all of TNT who had made the site as it is and hope those who were laid off could find work (and maybe come back when things have improved). I complained, but only because I cared and wanted to see the site be the best that it can.



As for all of us left, I suggest everyone to buckle done, this is going to be a VERY bumpy ride.

bananapower , March 8, 2015 10:36 AM NST



How will Neopets go like this, I wonder... it's not just Neopets, too, all those friends I have oh my gosh this is just.How will Neopets go like this, I wonder... it's not just Neopets, too, all those friends I have

yukidaviji , March 8, 2015 10:36 AM NST I've heard on the boards they lost the code for KQ, which is why they haven't put it back up. There's nothing to put back up anymore.

ixchel , March 8, 2015 10:37 AM NST



This is really sad news, and happenings of late don't give me much hope.



Best of luck to everyone from the TNT staff who isn't there anymore. I've been on Neopets for almost 13 years now. I would be devastated to lose my pets and petpets that I've had in almost all that time.This is really sad news, and happenings of late don't give me much hope.Best of luck to everyone from the TNT staff who isn't there anymore.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:37 AM NST @yukidaviji: At this point even if they had the code, I don't think it's coming back. *sighs* Sorry to hear about that, though, love. I always think of people being much more attached to it than I am.

kouza , March 8, 2015 10:42 AM NST Wait, do we have a confirmed source, or is it still Nynex's blog and snarkie's tweet? I need figures! I need names!

logicalwhimsy , March 8, 2015 10:43 AM NST I had a horrendous feeling that when Jumpstart took over Neopets that they were only interested in the intellectual property and trademarks encompassed by the brand and not continuing Neopets in its current form. I mean, to properly maximise the return from such an acquisition you need to cut costs... this is cutting costs in the most brutal way. I may be the type of person who shows their affection for a subject by moaning about it (it's why I always consider apathy more dangerous than negativity - when someone looses interest it's hard to recapture their imagination) but this has genuninely upset me. You don't treat people like this. SIGH. Good luck in the future, guys! This is awful.I had a horrendous feeling that when Jumpstart took over Neopets that they were only interested in the intellectual property and trademarks encompassed by the brand and not continuing Neopets in its current form. I mean, to properly maximise the return from such an acquisition you need to cut costs... this is cutting costs in the most brutal way. I may be the type of person who shows their affection for a subject by moaning about it (it's why I always consider apathy more dangerous than negativity - when someone looses interest it's hard to recapture their imagination) but this has genuninely upset me. You don't treat people like this. SIGH. Good luck in the future, guys!

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:44 AM NST @kouza: Lots of facebook posts from what I've heard.



http://www.neopets.com/neoboards/topic.phtml?topic=156922341&next=21



Nick's got some posts on this board, I got the link from a board on Charter.

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 10:46 AM NST



So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the internet, a little boy or girl and his Neopet will always be playing. So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the internet, a little boy or girl and his Neopet will always be playing.

poppysunnyseed , March 8, 2015 10:46 AM NST Things are going to get shadier... I tell myself I play these kinds games for the ride, but neopets is dear to my heart. Things are looking pretty bleak. Bummed for the staff who are laid off.Things are going to get shadier... I tell myself I play these kinds games for the ride, but neopets is dear to my heart.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:46 AM NST @logicalwhimsy: I like your opinions, love. I like your views, and I think I'll try and remember that about negativity and apathy.



I never thought about that about them doing that with the site, I just thought it'd close eventually one of these days. *sighs* This is everything coming to a crash, just... *sighs* Best to know now, and I suppose this is what I need to find closure either way.

dave - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 10:47 AM NST @kouza: Our source is a (now former) TNT staff member who sent us a short message on Friday. I'm not naming names as a courtesy. I was going to wait until Monday to post on JN to see what happened and if JS would say anything... but since rumors fly fast, I decided to post earlier.



Overall, things sounds very unclear on how we'll be seeing any new content in the future.

neoskulltula , March 8, 2015 10:47 AM NST I don't know how I feel about this. As a BDer I have an extreme bias against how the site was run since 2005 but I recognize a lot of these people weren't part of that. And even if they were, say, part of the council that decided on the Difficulty system, I hate to see anyone lose their job.



All I can really say is the site seems hollow now. Wasn't there a staffer on maternity leave? I hope they have their position still.

angelcat96 , March 8, 2015 10:47 AM NST I'm shocked, just shocked. I can't believe that the most of the TNT that I knew of got laid off. I've played for a little over ten years and almost all of them are now just gone. Utterly shocked.



On the note of Neopets going belly up, I don't think it'll happen for a few months, if it happens at all. Jumpstart only recently bought Neopets and it's to soon after their purchase to quit. Jumpstart will give it the old college try before they give up and lose that much money. And they only just released that new app, so they have some sort of plans, whatever they may be. It's possible that since Jumpstart bought Neopets, they wanted to clean house and get fresh faces and ideas in the office. We really can't know why, unless they tell us. But I don't think that Neopets' time has come to end yet. But I just may be overly optimistic. Just my two cents.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:48 AM NST @poppysunnyseed: Maybe not with the lag at the moment and when the site closes... But: *feeds Princess_Maria714 some Lemon Jelly and decorates our classic neohome for her* *sighs* *hugs my little badly named pets and plays with my other pets*

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:50 AM NST @neoskulltula: Droplet's on maternity leave. I hope she comes back - Princess_Maria714, SERIOUSLY, I submitted two comics recently! *sighs*

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 10:50 AM NST Kouza, I'm with you. I can only find Snarkie's Tweeter and Nynex's page...

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 10:52 AM NST All I can really say is the site seems hollow now. Wasn't there a staffer on maternity leave? I hope they have their position still.

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She was the Neopian Times editor, but I doubt she's a necessary employee. The NT isn't essential and requires quite a bit of work. It's disappointing to think that they might have sprung this on her during maternity leave, but all the employees seemed to be blindsided by it one way or another.

jadedone23 , March 8, 2015 10:53 AM NST I have to say that I'm not surprised. Neo has been going downhill for a while. This just feels like the nail in the coffin.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:54 AM NST @nick: *sighs* Might as well play the NeoAdventure Generator instead. *sighs*



Better that she's on maternity leave, I guess... *sighs*



*sighs* Oh, Nick, I don't know what to do. I guess you're right.



But I did submit comics to the times after all these years and now they're never getting any recognition on the site.

yukidaviji , March 8, 2015 10:55 AM NST I wish they had given them some notice about it. They might have been able to set the site up or fixed somethings or given us a warning before they left.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:56 AM NST @nick: Do you think Herdy would want to start his own neopian times on Jellyneo? *cough* *sips tea miserably* He's, like, the best neopian times writer ever (everyone else who writes is amazing, too, don't worry - I just like to idolize him) and, well, he probably has tons of more stories written and he runs the book of ages, so if Jellyneo were to, you know - run a neopian times? 0:-)

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 10:56 AM NST I wish they had given them some notice about it. They might have been able to set the site up or fixed somethings or given us a warning before they left.

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You do know that they just stop supporting Chinese version of the site suddenly, right?

Oh no you don't, cause they don't even mention that to you guys!!

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 10:57 AM NST @lucy_haha: I think they did that to the Dutch version of the site recently, too. Someone on the Charter commented on that because they submitted to the Dutch poetry contest a lot, apparently.

fenix , March 8, 2015 10:57 AM NST If the NT goes under, then that's it.



The editorial is our remaining best communication link to staff and insight.

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 10:59 AM NST Neopets will only truly have left the internet when none here are loyal to it.

fenix , March 8, 2015 10:59 AM NST And I'd edit the news post to include that there will no longer be support or updates in other languages. That was shadily done as well.

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 11:00 AM NST I think they did that to the Dutch version of the site recently, too. Someone on the Charter commented on that because they submitted to the Dutch poetry contest a lot, apparently.

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Yea, they stopped supporting Chinese and Dutch at the same time.

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 11:01 AM NST And I'd edit the news post to include that there will no longer be support or updates in other languages. That was shadily done as well.

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Oh haha.

I mean, Chinese and Dutch did get the notice before this.

HAHA.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:01 AM NST



We also need an update on our news saying they aren't supporting the site in our language.



@lucy_haha: Thank you. That's good to know. *sighs* @fenix: I forgot about the editorial. That's right.We also need an update on our news saying they aren't supporting the site in our language.@lucy_haha: Thank you. That's good to know. *sighs*

sosoeuso , March 8, 2015 11:02 AM NST I can't tell what will happen to Neo, I'm definitely scared of what could happen. If only Jumpstart could be more straightforward with us, and lay on the table what are their plans, maybe I'd not be so scared. But....I can't tell what will happen to Neo, I'm definitely scared of what could happen.

perpecta , March 8, 2015 11:02 AM NST



I can't believe, this must be a bad time but not a end, not Neopets will close? CLOSE? for real? I can't believe this ;-; I play since I was 10, now I am about two months to 21, this is half of my life.I can't believe, this must be a bad time but not a end, not

rodgerflint , March 8, 2015 11:04 AM NST English, Spanish, and French are the only languages active...German's "being improved"...

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:04 AM NST @sosoeuso: We wouldn't be in this mess (and nor would the laid off staff have been) if they would've just been like that.



@perpecta: Maybe not, but everyone is in agreement that it probably will.

pikachu315111 , March 8, 2015 11:04 AM NST Should we consider trying to archive things?

plushielynis , March 8, 2015 11:05 AM NST



I hope everyone laid off is doing okay!! Who could have ever thought JumpStart could be more evil that Viacom?I hope everyone laid off is doing okay!!

rodgerflint , March 8, 2015 11:05 AM NST ...and now the site is stuck in bloody German for me.

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 11:07 AM NST



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I'm sorry, I found that funny. All you have to do is change to English again. ...and now the site is stuck in bloody German for me.---I'm sorry, I found that funny. All you have to do is change to English again.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:08 AM NST @lucy

Yus, yus. :p

But it's still important for players to be aware of that too. It still counts as cut content in my book.

rodgerflint , March 8, 2015 11:08 AM NST I'm sorry, I found that funny. All you have to do is change to English again.



I tried that. Every time I load or reload a page after changing back to English, it just reverts.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 11:08 AM NST To be honest I belive this is just to much paranoia, I mean we already know some staffers where out when JS bought the site, and maybe I don't fully understand the term "laid off" but a company usually has plans when they cut off emploeys.... Also the site was going downhill when Viacom started, so maybe JS just wants to take everything related out... We don't even know how was the relationship between the staff and the current/past owners..

rodgerflint , March 8, 2015 11:08 AM NST The site is lagging so hard even language changes won't stick :|

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:08 AM NST



@pikachu315111: I think jellyneo should, if anyone were to. @rodgerflint: Try changing it at the NC Mall, that's worked for some people.@pikachu315111: I think jellyneo should, if anyone were to.

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 11:08 AM NST Oh. I know it has a one click lag. (going from Japanese to Italian to English will keep it on Italian)

neoskulltula , March 8, 2015 11:10 AM NST stoneman3x > herdygerdy





Just kidding. But back when herdy was getting enough trophies to pass him, I had this hope he would come back and race herdy to 500 wins.

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 11:11 AM NST @fenix

That's why I was confused when I didn't see JN say anything about this at all.

mavegibson , March 8, 2015 11:11 AM NST



Gah, this is heartbreaking news. My best wishes to all the TNT staff who made the site what it is for so frickin' long. I am going to miss you all so much!



I can't even get my head around this. If the site closes I will genuinely cry my eyes out. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!Gah, this is heartbreaking news. My best wishes to all the TNT staff who made the site what it is for so frickin' long. I am going to miss you all so much!I can't even get my head around this. If the site closes I will genuinely cry my eyes out.

yellowbluerainbow , March 8, 2015 11:11 AM NST I was hoping today was magically April 1st... I've been on Neopets for 3/4 of my life. I really hope things will improve with the site soon. I was hoping today was magically April 1st... I've been on Neopets for 3/4 of my life. I really hope things will improve with the site soon.

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 11:13 AM NST Try changing the language in NC mall, also try the NC mall version Scarab page. If not, change the language twice or just clear the cookie.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:13 AM NST @escrainus

There's enough compelling evidence to make a logical inference.



So far, it is confirmed that Comastar and Viola were let go. Can be seen in comments on Snarkie's tweet.

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 11:14 AM NST Maybe on April 1st, they'll surprise us with the best site EVAR that has been silenting lurking and that's why we have such lag

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 11:14 AM NST Spell fail: silently

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:14 AM NST The timing of it all plus no Friday news (Comastar was in charge of the news writing, among other tasks) is enough compelling evidence for what happened.

auraichadora , March 8, 2015 11:16 AM NST I still don't believe (or refuse to) that the site is closing down. Laying off/firing people is not the same as shutting down the site. Call it stupidity, call it desperation as without Neo I have nothing to do and no one to talk to throughout the week, or whatever you want, but that's just me.

bladesmccoy , March 8, 2015 11:16 AM NST Well it's been fun but my time with Neopets is now over. That was a crap move for JS to do and I will not support their site going forward. Good bye everyone and to the Neopets team I salute you for making the last 11 years of my life a little more entertaining.

tamora , March 8, 2015 11:18 AM NST This has been such a big part of my life for 14 years. I'll miss the community and all the fun I've had.

cinnamon_girl , March 8, 2015 11:18 AM NST .



I've been playing since I was 13. I'm almost 28 now... I always thought the site would evolve and grow with the times. I started getting worried a few years ago when it didn't really develop anymore and just content was added. I'm not ready to let go, I really hope this is just about getting new people in to change things but keep it the same old Neopets as well... I'm so sorry for all the staff that was firedI've been playing since I was 13. I'm almost 28 now... I always thought the site would evolve and grow with the times. I started getting worried a few years ago when it didn't really develop anymore and just content was added. I'm not ready to let go, I really hope this is just about getting new people in to change things but keep it the same old Neopets as well...

escrainus , March 8, 2015 11:18 AM NST @fenix: well, I've heard for a long time the phrase " neopets is closing, is going downhill" just like " the end of the world" that unless there is an official message from the site that it is closing ( we only know a cut/change of staff) I belive nothing...

lovely_anais , March 8, 2015 11:19 AM NST Poor people.

I really hope they will get a new job soon.

In the last time I ranted from time to time because of the bugs and lags, but I did only because I wanted to see the site without this annoying things. I wish you all the best.



I hope that JumpStart will think not once, not twice, but many times before they shut down the site. I think the site have many potential (not only intellectual property) and with the proper rebuild the site will shine again in all it's glory.

I think we are all ready to renew our Premiums, and show off our Credit cards when we will be sattisfied with twat the site will offer to us.

As I said before and I think I am not the only one, I am on the site for +10 years not because of the games but because of the pets and the community. I think they should be aware of that.



Out there are many good games but guess what...they have my attention for few days, maybe months and then they are all forgoten.

Well Neopets was and will never be forgotten.

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 11:20 AM NST Maybe on April 1st, they'll surprise us with the best site EVAR that has been silently lurking and that's why we have such lag

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1st April: Glad to be with you guys for so many years! This is the last update of the site and we miss you all!



And everyone knows this is the true prank.

lovely_anais , March 8, 2015 11:20 AM NST -c-

On the side note...I think JN could be a great new Neo owner.



And now, lets hope for the best.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:21 AM NST @escrainus

That's just it though, the site IS NOT closing.

But the dismissal of old staff is a sign of restructuring taking place.

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 11:23 AM NST If the site really does close, will Jellyneo still be around to relive the memories?

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:23 AM NST It is common business practice for a new company to clean house and bring in people who will complete their new vision. It's far easier than trying to persuade the old company's staff to make changes.

azienskieth , March 8, 2015 11:24 AM NST Is there any way to archive our favourite games?

beans , March 8, 2015 11:25 AM NST Crap. I think I've been telling myself for a while this day is coming but I didnt actually expect it to. Crap.

gordy_777 , March 8, 2015 11:26 AM NST



If this truly is the end, I'll never forget any of it, and I guess I'll have to thank all of the staff for it. But I hope it isn't, as this site is just too big of a childhood memory to see taken out back, and shot.



Not to mention, this is all happening on my birthday... I would say something bad about this... but to tell you the truth, I haven't been a regular user on the site in ages. I can only look back and remember what might have been...If this truly is the end, I'll never forget any of it, and I guess I'll have to thank all of the staff for it. But I hope it isn't, as this site is just too big of a childhood memory to see taken out back, and shot.Not to mention, this is all happening on my birthday...

gordy_777 , March 8, 2015 11:26 AM NST



If this truly is the end, I'll never forget any of it, and I guess I'll have to thank all of the staff for it. But I hope it isn't, as this site is just too big of a childhood memory to see taken out back, and shot.



Not to mention, this is all happening on my birthday... I would say something bad about this... but to tell you the truth, I haven't been a regular user on the site in ages. I can only look back and remember what might have been...If this truly is the end, I'll never forget any of it, and I guess I'll have to thank all of the staff for it. But I hope it isn't, as this site is just too big of a childhood memory to see taken out back, and shot.Not to mention, this is all happening on my birthday...

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 11:26 AM NST Azienskieth!

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:27 AM NST Ain't it all too convenient that the files for KQ were suddenly 'lost' back during the transition?



I really suspect that was intentional.

azienskieth , March 8, 2015 11:27 AM NST *hides* Apparently, I'm famous!

yooo_danhel , March 8, 2015 11:28 AM NST Okay, I'll give Jumpstart a chance to play it well until June. Should they fail, it'd be time to part goodbye.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 11:29 AM NST @fenix: I know the site is not closing... Maybe my original post wasn't clear.. And a restructuring is not always bad, maybe they whant fresh ideas and for that they need new/younger staff, maybe TNT didn't want to make changes, Who knows?... Hope the staff that was laid off gets new jobs.. But I can see why JS would want to replace part of the staff..

neoskulltula , March 8, 2015 11:29 AM NST Are you tamora dawn?

sosoeuso , March 8, 2015 11:29 AM NST



Let's just hope it'll all just get cleared up Monday morning.



Let's just hope it was just a misunderstanding.



Let's just hope... Let's just hope it's nothing.Let's just hope it'll all just get cleared up Monday morning.Let's just hope it was just a misunderstanding.Let's just hope...

sandy2671 , March 8, 2015 11:30 AM NST I need a hug. I am clinging on to hope the sight doesn't go down due to business, but there is always a chance that JS is changing Neopets into something else with the same name. They better not. I need a hug. I am clinging on to hope the sight doesn't go down due to business, but there is always a chance that JS is changing Neopets into something else with the same name. They better not.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 11:31 AM NST My main account is nearly half my age. My Neopets are older than all my pets, nieces, nephews, some cousins. I've had my neopets longer than I've known my husband. I've put a lot of time into this site. An embarrassingly huge amount of time. My little sister and I used to get into real arguments, crazy long feuds, over computer time so we could play flash games with our pets.



It will be SO SAD if they shut this site down.



What I foresee happening is Knowledge Adventure closing the website, and using the intellectual property in their terrible CD ROM games, mobile apps, etc.



What makes it SO sad, is I know that if a group of Neopets fans with the money, time, and knowledge took over this site could live forever. Maybe new features wouldn't update so often. Maybe The Neopian Times would go to a quarterly publication... Maybe plots and events would be few and far between... But I just KNOW that if someone who loved the site took over things would be different.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 11:32 AM NST Also, let's not forget what this means to JellyNeo and other sites like it... The JN staff have worked INCREDIBLY hard putting this entire website together.... Without Neopets.com, what will become of Jellyneo?

demi_ , March 8, 2015 11:33 AM NST Ugh. Just ugh.

This site encouraged me to write. Seven Shadow of the Xweetoks stories later and I have a solid love for storytelling.

I desperately hope I can publish my last Neopian Times series. I'll submit it as soon as I can, but things are looking grim.

eevers , March 8, 2015 11:34 AM NST Can you please make a statement clarifying that this doesn't necessarily mean anything for the site itself. People are all over neo saying that "JN said neo is shutting down"

I know that's not true, but the depressing tone of this message is giving people that impression when really, no one knows WHAT is going to happen.

sarakiima , March 8, 2015 11:35 AM NST



I just got back into Neopets last August...since having my daughter I found it to be a nice break from the everyday. I truly hope that it isn't the slow decent to the end. Is there any chance it could keep running and get better??? This is so...terrible..it feels like a world is ending.. I just got back into Neopets last August...since having my daughter I found it to be a nice break from the everyday. I truly hope that it isn't the slow decent to the end. Is there any chance it could keep running and get better??? This is so...terrible..it feels like a world is ending..

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:35 AM NST Maybe JellyNeo could become JellySubeta. We do have gelatin creatures! xD



I kid, i kid.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:36 AM NST I have a PSA thread up on the HC, specifically stating the site is not closing down.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 11:37 AM NST I support the idea of JN clarifying that the news are only staff related and that they hace no news about the site shooting down

cinnamon_girl , March 8, 2015 11:37 AM NST *hugs everyone who needs a hug*

recklesse , March 8, 2015 11:38 AM NST the depressing tone of this message is giving people that impression when really, no one knows WHAT is going to happen.

persona_non_grata , March 8, 2015 11:39 AM NST #NeopianApocalypse

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 11:39 AM NST Is there any chance it could keep running and get better???

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There is always a chance, however slight it might be... But logically, it doesn't seem like it could work out that way. The odds are definitely not in the site's favor at this point.



But like I said... There's always /some/ kind of chance at least.

reconnection , March 8, 2015 11:39 AM NST Maybe JellyNeo could become JellySubeta. We do have gelatin creatures! xD

-x-

Haha.. hahaha... JellySub.

elbandito999 , March 8, 2015 11:40 AM NST



I guess no good thing lasts forever... this is a very sad dayI guess no good thing lasts forever...

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:40 AM NST It's only natural and expected that people automatically assume the site is meeting its demise.



We're reactionary by fault, but that's why it's important to make sure everyone is reminded that Neo is not closing.

rhino_loupe , March 8, 2015 11:41 AM NST What an irresponsible post, JN. You make it sound as if the site is going down, and causing panic on the forums. They're shuffling staff around, that's all.

gabtena , March 8, 2015 11:41 AM NST Maybe JellyNeo could become JellySubeta. We do have gelatin creatures! xD

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well, we did get JellyMara once haha

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:42 AM NST Haha.. hahaha... JellySub.

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We all live in a jelly submarine

Jelly submarine, jelly submarine...

recklesse , March 8, 2015 11:42 AM NST the depressing tone of this message is giving people that impression when really, no one knows WHAT is going to happen.

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(my computer refreshed for some reason, sorry)



I don't think there's any way to convey this message without being depressing. No one knows what is going to happen, mainly because JumpStart resolutely maintain a wall of silence.



If they don't want rumours to fly they should try posting something somewhere.

persona_non_grata , March 8, 2015 11:43 AM NST Yeah I doubt Neopets is closing. JS has had it like what, a year? They probably feel they can get some people in there who will better run the site. For any business to drop what I'm sure was at least $1 million down the drain is stupid.



They probably want to go in a different direction, and they want new people to take them there.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:43 AM NST @gordy_777: Happy birthday, darling. *hands you tea and fish cake and anything imaginary that I think you'll like* Darling, I'm sorry to hear that there was horrible timing with this news being released, I don't want it to make your birthday bad. Birthdays only come once a year, and things will get better in real life, at least.

winter_pony4 , March 8, 2015 11:43 AM NST I've been hearing rumors that they're trying to outsource work for Neopets. So hopefully this is just a "out with the old and in with the new" approach to the site.

gabtena , March 8, 2015 11:43 AM NST I think it's better to get this out there and make a scandal out of it (like it should: lots of people losing their long time jobs just like that and not knowing what they're doing with neo) so we get straight answers

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 11:45 AM NST Massive layoffs and shuffling staff around are two very, very, very different things.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:45 AM NST @persona_non_grata: I read an article offsite (friends send it to dad on Skype) and it theorized that the site was part of a transaction rather than a sale. It made sense, and seeing as I've never really heard anything of Jumpstart myself (I'm sixteen, and no, I never played any of their educational games as a child) I am not sure what to believe of their company. I don't know much about it, except I don't think that from what I've seen neopets turn into since the transition and continue to get worse, well - I don't trust that they aren't going to get rid of the site.

lovely_anais , March 8, 2015 11:49 AM NST @ rhino_loupe



I am sorry, but JN post is only very supportive to the ex TNT staff and nothing else. Read it again!

labpartnerincrime - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 11:49 AM NST As far as Neopets getting new staffers, the only opening I've ever seen for JumpStart Neopets was an artist slot right after the transition on LinkedIn. Nothing on JumpStart's careers page.



That's why I'm tending to think that there won't be staffers for a while other than the key components of programmers, monitors, and support.



Maybe JumpStart has its own internal division working on a Neopets revamp, who knows, but the only public info is bad news that there's barely anyone in TNT.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 11:49 AM NST Also, getting rid of the site doesn't mean JumpStart just threw away all their money. They still own the characters and all the other intellectual property and can do whatever they want with it. It doesn't have to exist in website form or even as a mobile app version of the site. They can remove all of that and make more Ghoul Catcher style games with other characters, sell books, make CD-ROMs, etc.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 11:51 AM NST They could even make something like Fashion Fever where you dress up pets with the wearable artwork that already exists, but you never actually own any of the pets.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 11:51 AM NST There are lots of things that can be done with Neopets even if they get rid of the site altogether.

lightsideoftheshadow , March 8, 2015 11:52 AM NST It's been so easy to blame TNT for site issues and decisions they have made over the years but I don't think anyone wanted this. While I may not have agreed with many things along the way I still always knew that at least the people working for Neo loved it as much as I did. It is upsetting to think that has changed.



Much love, respect, and sympathy for those TNT members who have been let go. Thank you for your years of caring about the site, not just collecting a paycheck.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 11:52 AM NST Did anyone read the credits on Ghoul Catchers? Anyone in those credits known TNT staff?



Maybe it's true that JumpStart has their own staff in mind for running the site?

dave - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 11:52 AM NST No, Neopets is probably not going to shut down and kill the servers tomorrow.



But until Jumpstart says otherwise, I don't think it's fair to people who might want to renew their Premium subscription or purchase more Neocash to pretend the site will just continue to soldier on with "fresh faces."

onewinginthefire , March 8, 2015 11:52 AM NST Jellyneo- you really dropped the ball by posting this here. All it did was cause panic on the boards. For all we know, they are just restructuring and plan to hire more people. This post was premature.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 11:53 AM NST Why work and actually launch an app if you ate going to justo get rip off the site since the beggining?... Still evento if we can theorize and asume anything we have no confirmation.. So a clarify in the new post would help... No? Just my tought.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:54 AM NST ^what nick said. They own it, they can do whatever they want.



Hence why everyone needs to make screenshots of their achievements and for memories, as well as complete as many dream goals as possible.



Neopets may not continue to be what it is now.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:54 AM NST It will still be there, but in a new form, to simply put it.

gabtena , March 8, 2015 11:54 AM NST Did anyone read the credits on Ghoul Catchers? Anyone in those credits known TNT staff?

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Suzuka recognized various ex-TNT staff members on the credits.. Such lack of respect from Jumpstart...

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:54 AM NST @dave: Thank you for this post.



@onewinginthefire: No it wasn't. Dave stuck to the facts of the matter and it's good to actually KNOW these. People check Jellyneo much more than the boards.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:55 AM NST @onewing

Actually, this news has been going around for a couple days now. It needed to be confirmed.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 11:55 AM NST



So the site HAS TO stay up for two years and three months. Also, I have 90 FQ cookies...So the site HAS TO stay up for two years and three months.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 11:55 AM NST Ugh I hate autocorrect... Hope muy last post males some sence..

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 11:56 AM NST @Nick, I wouldn't put it past JS to use the Neo characters as they see fit either because the characters are the real cash cow, especially if they figure out ways to re-connect with their customers. BUT wouldn't it make more sense to keep someone on staff to keep back stories straight? IDK much about how the intellectual property can be manipulated (artwork, names, etc.)??

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:56 AM NST



@Dave: What you said about NC and premium is right. Dad and my sister have been putting off cancelling for a while, Banyan's cancelled today, dad will later and I think I will be cancelling later tonight too. @gabtena: Thank you for the info. It's good to know ex-staff members were helping on that. Suzuka's always been good with these things.@Dave: What you said about NC and premium is right. Dad and my sister have been putting off cancelling for a while, Banyan's cancelled today, dad will later and I think I will be cancelling later tonight too.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 11:57 AM NST @foxycleopatra: That's what we've got the book of ages for.

stories2btold , March 8, 2015 11:57 AM NST Call me insensitive or irrational, but I think this is actually a good sign. I feel for those who lost their jobs, but now the goal here is clear: either JS wants to start fresh with a much needed new staff, or the end of Neo is near, and we can all have closure soon, as much as it hurts.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 11:57 AM NST And everyone saying that JN shouldn't have posted this: I disagree. They posted facts, they didn't make some sweeping predictions. They said they were "unsure" of the future plans... So anyone panicking about this is making their own predictions.

fenix , March 8, 2015 11:58 AM NST @cleopatra

That, is what we call a 'reboot'--new canon to replace the old.

onewinginthefire , March 8, 2015 11:58 AM NST @morgan:

" and it's amazing it lasted as long as it did. "

This post has a depressing and negative connotation that i think is premature. You can't deny that.



@fenix:

It has been going around where?

onerainywish , March 8, 2015 11:58 AM NST Also, getting rid of the site doesn't mean JumpStart just threw away all their money. They still own the characters and all the other intellectual property and can do whatever they want with it. It doesn't have to exist in website form or even as a mobile app version of the site. They can remove all of that and make more Ghoul Catcher style games with other characters, sell books, make CD-ROMs, etc.



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ALL of this. People really need to understand that the "value" of neopets isn't just the website itself, but the intellectual property and other intangibles. Holding on to hope that JumpStart will keep the site exactly as it is just because they acquired it not too long ago is naive considering how businesses actually function.

onewinginthefire , March 8, 2015 12:00 PM NST Who still uses CD-Roms...

john3637881 , March 8, 2015 12:01 PM NST I wonder what happened to Tiger Catcher. He was one of the longest lasting staffers. He was the site's art director. Do you think he was laid off?

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 12:01 PM NST I was just curious if JS could use Jhudora in an app but make her a light faerie or something? That's what I meant by property manipulation.

fenix , March 8, 2015 12:01 PM NST @onewing

Someone found various TNT staffers updating their social media about being laid off. Since then, people have been asking Neo's FB page, but the admin there has been clearing posts related to the incident.



Given the timing and context of it all, with lack of Friday news, it all fits logically. It doesn't require much to make an inference when you have enough supporting clues.

fenix , March 8, 2015 12:02 PM NST Then, Snarkie's got an ominous tweet posted on Mar 6, plus word from a former JN staff, about the downsizing.

fenix , March 8, 2015 12:03 PM NST That all but confirms what happened this past week.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 12:03 PM NST Cleopatra-they own Jhudora. They can do whatever they want with her.

springburst , March 8, 2015 12:04 PM NST Even if this site does manage to stay alive, I don't think I'll be sticking around. Too much nostalgia. Awww, my childhood ruinedEven if this site does manage to stay alive, I don't think I'll be sticking around. Too much nostalgia.

parody_ham , March 8, 2015 12:05 PM NST Well then.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:05 PM NST @onewinginthefire: It isn't premature. I've felt that way for a while about neopets, and if Dave feels that way I don't see why he shouldn't have posted it.

jawsch - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:06 PM NST To my knowledge, Tiger Catcher left Neopets awhile back.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:07 PM NST @onewinginthefire: I'm sorry for being harsh.



@jawsch: I haven't heard about him in years. Poor love, I remember his name from that old staff competition.

dave - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:08 PM NST Tiger Catcher remained with Viacom if I recall correctly.

john3637881 , March 8, 2015 12:08 PM NST @jawsch: Huh, is that true? I know he was still with them as late as 2013. His linkedin profile still says he works with Nickelodeon, so I don't know for certain. I always like him because he was one of the last survivors of the Sacrificers plot.

chibiaden14 , March 8, 2015 12:09 PM NST That makes me angry at Jump Start. It's horrible that they'd do that to the neopets team!!! That makes me angry at Jump Start. It's horrible that they'd do that to the neopets team!!!

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:09 PM NST @Nick, I wouldn't put it past JS to use the Neo characters as they see fit either because the characters are the real cash cow, especially if they figure out ways to re-connect with their customers. BUT wouldn't it make more sense to keep someone on staff to keep back stories straight? IDK much about how the intellectual property can be manipulated (artwork, names, etc.)??

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Neopets HQ has a "Big Book of Lore" where they keep track of that stuff, but as you may have witnessed in the past, even they don't always remember to stick to it.



But with games like Ghoul Catchers, there isn't much to it anyway. The Ghoul Catchers are just screen decorations and they don't even introduce why there are ghosts running amok.

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 12:11 PM NST I don't think I would be interested in anything "Neopets" JS would have to offer if they didn't keep character back stories, etc correct- only if it would be completely new characters. I don't mind "losing" the site as much as the content.

childlike__empress , March 8, 2015 12:11 PM NST Donna and Adam need to come back and save the day.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 12:11 PM NST @morganjoisle: I'm sorry I know you replied someone el se, but while dave has right to post in the way he feels or what he thinks, it doesn't means anythingh more out of staff going out, the site might close or not, it is not clear in terms of anouncess.. But the note of the news makes think that

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:13 PM NST

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After all the times that Dave told me I was being too pessimistic about the site in the past year or so, if Dave has lost confidence, I'd say that's a pretty bad sign. @onewinginthefire: It isn't premature. I've felt that way for a while about neopets, and if Dave feels that way I don't see why he shouldn't have posted it.------After all the times that Dave told me I was being too pessimistic about the site in the past year or so, if Dave has lost confidence, I'd say that's a pretty bad sign.

kouza , March 8, 2015 12:13 PM NST They have a big book of lore???

elvenfaery , March 8, 2015 12:13 PM NST :-(

This is truly devastating, not only for the history and fate of Neopets, but for all the hard working (despite what any overly bitter users out there have ever said) individuals who have lost their jobs (and many probably considered it more of a passion than just a job.) Thank you all for the blood, sweat, tears, late nights and coffee stains; without your wit and love, it's difficult to imagine the site continuing anything like it has ever been.



My 15th anniversary is coming up in a few weeks, more than half my life, but I suddenly don't feel very celebratory.

I hope JumpStart manages to keep things alive on the main site, mostly as it is, but I fear that won't be very sustainable now. The heart and soul of Neopets was never the IP... it was the people, both staff and users. People come and go, some never leave, and some return after time. Trying times were on us already, but this is a full on life support situation now.

It's not over 'til it's over,

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 12:13 PM NST Thanks Nick for replying!

mischievious_man , March 8, 2015 12:13 PM NST best of luck neopets community

elvenfaery , March 8, 2015 12:14 PM NST It's not over 'til it's over, but hope and realism can coexist.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 12:14 PM NST Private Neopets server, anyone? LOL.... I know nothing about coding or programming, but if this was an option I'd be all over it like flies on dung!

link , March 8, 2015 12:15 PM NST Wow, I didn't see this coming at all. Here's hoping they have a plan.

nightshadeswiftswing , March 8, 2015 12:16 PM NST Ugh I wish I had saw this before I had just purchased NC. The site is going to crash down and I gave them money

jazleigh , March 8, 2015 12:17 PM NST well..well... **** this is just...awful beyond all words. To think we all liked the idea of JUmpStart...now look what they have done to our site!!! Thank you TNT for the many years of service

john3637881 , March 8, 2015 12:17 PM NST I sure hope someone is taking screenies of the plots. I'm doing the Ski Lodge plot. It ended long after I joined, but it's still my favorite plot/event the site ever had.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:18 PM NST

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Sorry to hear that, but that's what we're trying to prevent with others at least. Ugh I wish I had saw this before I had just purchased NC. The site is going to crash down and I gave them money-----Sorry to hear that, but that's what we're trying to prevent with others at least.

illusionshadow_s , March 8, 2015 12:21 PM NST



i saw people post about this last night on the boards.



i never liked js because they just wouldn't fix the lag, and although i've been told that's not easy to do, i've never seen any site that makes its users wait for pages to load, if they load at all.



and now just about all of tnt is gone.. i guess the end is near after all.



if neo goes mobile-only i'll have to quit since my phone is really just a glorified alarm clock and i refuse to change that just for neo. it's not worth it. i saw people post about this last night on the boards.i never liked js because they just wouldn't fix the lag, and although i've been told that's not easy to do, i've never seen any site that makes its users wait for pages to load, if they load at all.and now just about all of tnt is gone.. i guess the end is near after all.if neo goes mobile-only i'll have to quit since my phone is really just a glorified alarm clock and i refuse to change that just for neo. it's not worth it.

stories2btold , March 8, 2015 12:21 PM NST At least my wallet is gladly snickering at this news.

zeelink , March 8, 2015 12:23 PM NST I feel gutted, honestly. I've been a player for 14 years. I've no more hope left, they got rid of all the people who knew the site and the lore well.



JumpStart, you suck.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:25 PM NST @nick: Thank you for the kind replies. You post for all the things that I feel really need replies to when I'm not around to yell at people on the boards about NC and how they did that exact same thing at Petpet Park. *hands you tea* Thank you, thank you, thank you. I felt the need to say thank you.



@escrainus: Thank you for replying to me either way, though, love.



Although the announcement does sort of imply something about the site, I think part of it is that we're all willing to see it that way. I think Dave did the right thing, and that... That it does say something that people are reacting to it the way that we are about what the general feeling on neopets is already, that we are all worried.

elvenfaery , March 8, 2015 12:25 PM NST When snarkie left, I know her account was frozen, and then deleted. Around that time I started looking up "popular" TNT members, and noticed some (Viola, Mr. Insane, and DJ Skellington for sure) still had accounts, but the red alert at the bottom denoting their status as staff was gone. I'd wondered if they had always been like that, or if the people were gone, or one foot out the door, at that time. Guess it doesn't matter at all now, but I guess in a way it's further prepared me for this sort of thing.

I wonder what happens tomorrow as far as "news"...

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:27 PM NST

... I wonder if there will be any news. From the sounds of it there probably won't be, and I guess we're stuck counting only on fansites like Jellyneo from now on. @elvenfaery: I never really kept track of their usernames, but that's very good information to know. Thank you for the information.... I wonder if there will be any news. From the sounds of it there probably won't be, and I guess we're stuck counting only on fansites like Jellyneo from now on.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 12:27 PM NST JumpStart's "about us" page no longer lists Neopets.... I'm almost positive a couple of weeks ago it did... Correct me if I'm wrong.

nightshadeswiftswing , March 8, 2015 12:28 PM NST Well at least I saw it at all, haha, there's that.



you guys should also post a warning that anyone discussing it/making boards on the site are having the boards deleted and getting warnings :/

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 12:28 PM NST Neopets is still listed in the footer of JumpStart's site though.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 12:30 PM NST @morgan: thanks to you to for your replies, I still belive the site has a chance to keep running, but I do undetstand the way all of you feel, I apologize if my replies where harsh.

boblol2 , March 8, 2015 12:30 PM NST It is said that The Darkest Faerie's name has been lost through time and that no one knows her true name. Today we uncovered that name: Jumpstart

@Dave You should rename the post to "The Darkest Faerie Attacks"

a0r10n , March 8, 2015 12:30 PM NST

Firstly, NOT COOL. If this is confirmed, they are gonna get a sternly written letter. I was gonna grow up and get hired into Neopets! This heralds the end of Neopets as we know it. It will continue on, but not the site we know and love. Jumpstart, I want ALL Neopets staff, in their fancy cubicles and on their computers, at 9:00 sharp! I will not stand for this atrocity!

If Neopets goes down, prepare for an unofficial replacement server to go up somewhere. The destruction of Neopia shall NOT happen! *punches* *punches Jumpstart in the face*Firstly, NOT COOL. If this is confirmed, they are gonna get a sternly written letter. I was gonna grow up and get hired into Neopets! This heralds the end of Neopets as we know it. It will continue on, but not the site we know and love. Jumpstart, I want ALL Neopets staff, in their fancy cubicles and on their computers, at 9:00 sharp! I will not stand for this atrocity!If Neopets goes down, prepare for an unofficial replacement server to go up somewhere. The destruction of Neopia shall NOT happen! *punches*

labpartnerincrime - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:31 PM NST duhimalyse:



Look on JumpStart -> Games. Has Neopets and GC, though GC is still listed as coming soon.

smartman294 , March 8, 2015 12:31 PM NST I feel like theres no way this is true? Why would you buy a site just to watch it crash and burn?

tyuio_k50 , March 8, 2015 12:32 PM NST It is said that The Darkest Faerie's name has been lost through time and that no one knows her true name. Today we uncovered that name: Jumpstart



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I love you.

reconnection , March 8, 2015 12:32 PM NST @a0r10n: I like you

elvenfaery , March 8, 2015 12:32 PM NST Yeah, I never said anything about it because I didn't want to cause pointless panic, and also because I figured that if they really were gone, maybe the only reason their accounts weren't deleted was because nobody really knew (unlike snarkie, who to my knowledge was the only one who really maintained a public persona outside of Neopets).

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 12:33 PM NST It is said that The Darkest Faerie's name has been lost through time and that no one knows her true name. Today we uncovered that name: Jumpstart

@Dave You should rename the post to "The Darkest Faerie Attacks"



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ROFL!!

tyuio_k50 , March 8, 2015 12:33 PM NST



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PREACH!



If you cancel Neopets, Mr. CEO, we will cancel you If Neopets goes down, prepare for an unofficial replacement server to go up somewhere. The destruction of Neopia shall NOT happen!---PREACH!If you cancel Neopets, Mr. CEO, we will cancel you

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:35 PM NST @duhimalyse: I didn't ever check their about us page, so I can't answer for certain either way.



@nightshadeswiftswing: I saw a couple of boards still up about this, but I should refresh and see if they're still there.



@escrainus: It's quite alright, and thank you for the reply again. I don't think anyone really means to be harsh today, just strong feelings, strong feelings. We feel strongly about this site, and I hope that you're right and that the site does keep running. I think it's what we all would really rather want.

nobody , March 8, 2015 12:35 PM NST LALALAALALA



EARLY APRIL FOOLS, RIGHT?

shecreature , March 8, 2015 12:36 PM NST Well, this is unfortunate. I needed to quit this website anyway, so it probably couldn't have come at a better time.

stories2btold , March 8, 2015 12:36 PM NST Also, why not just get rid of all the programmers and support if the whole thing was heading to be destroyed? I just don't buy it.

shecreature , March 8, 2015 12:37 PM NST Pretty ironic about the cancelled due to lack of interest day coinciding with all this.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:38 PM NST @a0r10n: Mom reminded me today that I wanted to work at neopets when I was younger, too. I was going to be a programmer there for a short time, like Donna, though now I think I would've been happier as a content writer. Bah, they have a couple of programmers left apparently, so maybe I still could've been hired in a couple of years. *shakes head* Ah well.



@shecreature: ... Apparently their interest. Darned Jumpstart management, give us your interest back!

illusionshadow_s , March 8, 2015 12:39 PM NST i just noticed something- there can't be more than 200 comments? because i think i see new comments adding and older comments disappearing O_O

labpartnerincrime - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:39 PM NST @shecreature I imagine this is the most interesting March 6th ever on Neo

waning , March 8, 2015 12:39 PM NST I hope this is not the demise. I just reached so many of my goals. I cringe thinking all that time was spent for something I can't even enjoy. I treasure my pets, it makes me so sad to think they may disappear into the void.

tyuio_k50 , March 8, 2015 12:39 PM NST



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So many of us shared the same dream Mom reminded me today that I wanted to work at neopets when I was younger, too. I was going to be a programmer there for a short time, like Donna, though now I think I would've been happier as a content writer.---So many of us shared the same dream

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:40 PM NST Also, why not just get rid of all the programmers and support if the whole thing was heading to be destroyed? I just don't buy it.

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It's obvious they don't /intend/ to destroy it, but with no content team or artists, and only a handful of programmers working to fix the ever-increasing list of glitches that they were unable to fix already, it's not likely there will be a long future for the site.



They still need to keep people around to at least attempt to fix stuff, though. Hence the programmers. They need a few monitors keeping people in line while the site is around too, and support to receive info about more glitches that pop up.

waning , March 8, 2015 12:40 PM NST In addition I feel so bad for the staff who were laid off. They were the heart and soul of this site. Hopes of new plots and such have been squashed.

pancaketime , March 8, 2015 12:40 PM NST It was the most truthful cancellation due to lack of interest ever.



At any rate, given how up in the air this leaves us, I'm really annoyed I can't view my user lookup for screenshots, just in case.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 12:41 PM NST @stories: my same tought



@morgan: wish you the best too :3



Well if the site closes (hope and doubt) I have the perfect finale for my (always in redaction) fan-story of neopets...

stories2btold , March 8, 2015 12:41 PM NST Pretty ironic about the cancelled due to lack of interest day coinciding with all this.

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HAHA IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A SICK JOKE.



*cries loudly in corner w/ tub of ice cream*

kouza , March 8, 2015 12:42 PM NST @illusionshadow_s



Yes, the comments are capped at 200.

smartman294 , March 8, 2015 12:44 PM NST I hope the layoffs were most of the game staff and that they will create games in more used languages because no one is taught flash anymore or shockwave anymore. (still hopeful)

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:44 PM NST There are in fact 229 comments and counting... But JN only shows the most recent 200 to save people from scrolling to death.

stories2btold , March 8, 2015 12:44 PM NST @Nick



Well, I'm going off the dangerous assumption that JS is aware that art & content are what drive the site, so they are just changing things up to improve that, albeit in a hapless manner.

eightballpixels , March 8, 2015 12:45 PM NST @elvenfaery So Mr. Insane IS gone? He was my favorite staff member! D:



CURSE YOU JUMPSTAAAAART!



I'm not too worried tho. The end doesn't come until it comes, so I'm not going to jump the gun until things really start pointing toward the end of the site. (If they do, it's back to Flight Rising with me!)



I still have some faith in Jumpstart, especially since they've mentioned that they're pushing the site toward an older audience (from what I've heard, anyway)...an announcement like that is practically candy for darkficcers like me. Here's hoping that they can save the site after this!

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 12:47 PM NST I still have some faith in Jumpstart, especially since they've mentioned that they're pushing the site toward an older audience (from what I've heard, anyway)...an announcement like that is practically candy for darkficcers like me. Here's hoping that they can save the site after this!

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Well one way to interpret that is that most people over the age of 13 own a cell phone.

ultimate_warrrior_x , March 8, 2015 12:47 PM NST Well that just stinks.... I am glad a cancelled my premium last month before it renews in a few days. Phew... I am slowly giving up on the site they promised so much but since the switch it has gone worse

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 12:47 PM NST "pushing the site toward an older audience"



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From the company that brought us the 5th grade adventures? and Math Blaster? and that little dog in the car?

boblol2 , March 8, 2015 12:48 PM NST I am disappointed. Out of all the plot characters who devoted there lives to destroy Neopia,(Dr.Sloth,The Darkest Faerie, the meetpets,ect..) Jumpstart has to destroy it. 2/10-IGN

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:48 PM NST



@tyuio_k50: *hugs you* @illusionshadow_s: Gah, I don't like having to scroll up to read these.@tyuio_k50: *hugs you*

ajm269 , March 8, 2015 12:48 PM NST I'm sorry for the TNT staff that have lost their jobs. They have helped make Neopets what it is for better or worse. My premium membership just renewed. Now I am wondering if it's worth having. I have played for over 10 years and have loved it. I have tried to be patient with the transition but the lag issue seems to be never ending. This staff layout does not bode well for the future of the site. You certainly can not do more with less.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:50 PM NST @nick: So they're down to the bear essentials. *sighs* I actually approved of that idea - it would be a solution if they're replace the artists and content team with more of these staff members. The support, the programmers, a few monitors is enough for the small amount of people left at neopets until this would be fixed - if it were only temporary. That could be a solution.



I'm not going to be optimistic at this point, though, and I won't believe that they're fixing anything unless there's some official announcement that they hired more staff.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:52 PM NST @aperkins2189: Well, with the lag, it certainly can't be aimed for a younger audience. My sister was miserable trying to get pages to load so we could cancel her premium, and certainly has no inclination to play on a daily basis at this point.

rhino_loupe , March 8, 2015 12:53 PM NST @lovely_anais This post is causing panic in the forums. People have canceled premium, are trashing their collections and giving away pets BECAUSE OF THIS POST and its fatalist implicature. If JN wanted to hurt the site, this is how to do it.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 12:55 PM NST @eightballpixels: I thought I heard about him being gone before this. That is a shame, though. I always was curious as to what was behind that locked door. lol



@escrainus: Aww, lol. Glad to hear some good can come of this. I have a clear ending to my "Petpet Park: the Musical" at least, because the park closed, and I didn't have any idea what would happen in the future otherwise.

tama70406 , March 8, 2015 12:56 PM NST @rhino_loupe the site is running itself into the ground, users deserve to know whats going on, and if JN has to be the bearer of bad news, well, power to them

aperkins2189 , March 8, 2015 12:57 PM NST @lovely_anais This post is causing panic in the forums. People have canceled premium, are trashing their collections and giving away pets BECAUSE OF THIS POST and its fatalist implicature. If JN wanted to hurt the site, this is how to do it.



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This separates those who are weak from those who are strong. Strength which will carry us through these trying times

stories2btold , March 8, 2015 12:57 PM NST



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THIS. IS. NEOPEEEEEETS! This separates those who are weak from those who are strong. Strength which will carry us through these trying times---THIS. IS. NEOPEEEEEETS!

dtolsen , March 8, 2015 12:58 PM NST What a huge bummer. Not buying anymore NC for sure. Thanks for keeping us informed.

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 12:59 PM NST Are programmers able to post any news or make announcements? Just trying to prepare for Monday...

dave - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:00 PM NST @rhino_loupe: I canceled my premium subscription Friday, for what it's worth. Given what the former TNTer shared with us, I'm not sure how the site is going to go on.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:00 PM NST @lovely_anais This post is causing panic in the forums. People have canceled premium, are trashing their collections and giving away pets BECAUSE OF THIS POST and its fatalist implicature. If JN wanted to hurt the site, this is how to do it.

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No one here advised such drastic measures as throwing away everything you have. If people refuse to read or choose to overreact, that's not Dave's fault. The post was made to give people fair warning.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:01 PM NST @rhino_loupe: *waves hi from the shoutbox*

I was already planning to cancel premium anyhow, and have been trying to convince my dad and sister to for months. This is just the final - what's a good phrase? There's probably a good one, ah well. Final straw that broke the camel's back? I think that's right. It's the final thing that's breaking the back - that's pushing us into finally going through with what we were already going to do.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:01 PM NST Cancelling premium is, however, a good idea. Not everyone has $70 to throw out the window on a yearly subscription that may not last anywhere close to that.

elvenfaery , March 8, 2015 1:02 PM NST While I agree that JN is just stating facts, and Dave even included in this news post that the future is *uncertain*, the reality is that many, many people read between the lines, or don't bother to fully read/comprehend what is stated.

Rumors spread like wildfire, and quickly get built upon with more than just the facts.

I'm personally not touching the NeoBoards with a 10' pole today...

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:02 PM NST @nick: Thank you for the fair warning. Thank you for hinting things at the shoutbox earlier too, when I was prying and worried. I'm much happier to at least know it was this that everyone is talking about. Thank you, Dave, for posting.

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 1:02 PM NST @rhino_loupe, that's like blaming watching the news for people who commit crimes. Ridiculous.

smartman294 , March 8, 2015 1:03 PM NST So this is either the end or the start or something new. hopefully the later. It would seem odd tho to buy a company for a few million then run it into the ground

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:04 PM NST



@elvenfaery: Glad to have found out what it was from here rather than the neoboards. ... Time to poke charter with a stick!!! @nick: Agreed. After Petpet Park, I'm not going through with that again.@elvenfaery: Glad to have found out what it was from here rather than the neoboards. ... Time to poke charter with a stick!!!

elvenfaery , March 8, 2015 1:09 PM NST Yeah, just to be clear, I sort of view this news post as a necessary evil. Moreso than any potential content spoiler, JN is in that unique position of having very important information, and the decision of how much can/needs to be shared without crossing a line. :/

scattergirl , March 8, 2015 1:10 PM NST I'm sad for those staffers, and sad that this chapter seems to be coming to an end. If they're abandoning the site, (and it seems pretty clear they are if content creation is done) I actually hope they officially close the site, and not let it slowly rot away. I love the place too much and it's already been tough enough to watch the decline the past few months. I'd prefer a quick and merciful end.

a0r10n , March 8, 2015 1:16 PM NST One thing I'd like to know... Did Altador ever find the Darkest Faerie statue? It's the only loose end I know of.

ummy - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:19 PM NST It would seem odd tho to buy a company for a few million then run it into the ground

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Unless they were only interested in the IP. Neopets are quite recognizable, after all.



They probably decided recently all of the trouble wasn't worth putting up with. Nothing good will come of this.

sosoeuso , March 8, 2015 1:20 PM NST Nope, he hasn't, a0r10n.

escrainus , March 8, 2015 1:23 PM NST



Aww, lol. Glad to hear some good can come of this. I have a clear ending to my "Petpet Park: the Musical" at least, because the park closed, and I didn't have any idea what would happen in the future otherwise.

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Well not the best resultado but.. I will take whatever comes in the best way I can, and a shame it happened that to your storie aperkins2189 and stories2btold I agree with most if not al you too have posted.. And I bate autocorrect...Aww, lol. Glad to hear some good can come of this. I have a clear ending to my "Petpet Park: the Musical" at least, because the park closed, and I didn't have any idea what would happen in the future otherwise.---Well not the best resultado but.. I will take whatever comes in the best way I can, and a shame it happened that to your storie

elvenfaery , March 8, 2015 1:23 PM NST Incidentally, I've felt for the past few months that what the site could really use was more demonstrable faith from the user base. Not that the frustrations weren't warranted, or that total, unconditional support was necessary, just fewer people posting vitriolic ultimatums about "fix it or ELSE, TNT..." They knew what was at stake.

But the people in charge aren't going to just sit by, reading all the negative feedback, and do nothing. I cant truly blame anyone for speaking their mind, I just deeply wish fewer had.

Even now I worry that this news will only send more people away, more traffic and income away. It's understandable, don't get me wrong, and nobody should be compelled to stay or keep spending money, but the message Jumpstart is going to get is "it's not worth it to try".

It's a double edged sword, this type of news.

smartman294 , March 8, 2015 1:24 PM NST I would even work for free to fix the site

smartman294 , March 8, 2015 1:26 PM NST Also what will happen to jn if neopets closes?

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:28 PM NST @elvenfaery: I agree about the delicate situation/how you described that. *nods approvingly*



@escrainus: Even though the park closed, I guess I did enjoy the way the last week of the park was handled. Many friends I hadn't talked with much in a couple of years were online a lot that week, and I made really good memories and had memorable conversations with them. I got reattached, but it wouldn't have been like that if the park weren't closing. We saw the best from what we used to enjoy about the place. The park had had no new content for months and had been boring, actually, but because it was closing we made a point to visit this site and enjoy it. It was enjoyable and I got reattached. lol

azienskieth , March 8, 2015 1:28 PM NST Has Support been laid off? I'd like to get my account back so I can live through the final days of Neo on the account that I'm proud of.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:29 PM NST @smartman294: JN archived the Petpet Park guide, so I think they'd probably do something similar to that.

What I see as questionable is the wardrobe app, though, because that's run directly with the files. It's complicated and I'm not sure how it would work to archive. Well, since if the site went down the files might go missing at some point in the future too.

lonibee06 , March 8, 2015 1:30 PM NST I feel horrible for those folks. I also feel like a schmuck for ever complaining. Their jobs are more important than me losing Habitarium or not being able to play Keyquest. I feel horrible for those folks. I also feel like a schmuck for ever complaining. Their jobs are more important than me losing Habitarium or not being able to play Keyquest.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:31 PM NST @azienskieth: Dave's post seems to imply "there are only a handful of programmers left, along with the support team and the monitor team" that the support staff are still left.



The support feels like it's been understaffed for a few months, though, so I still wouldn't get my hopes up. They're probably swamped again.

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 1:31 PM NST I'm going to stick it out with premium until the site ends. I know it's probably a waste, but wasn't paying for pixels really to begin with? I'm glad JN informed everyone so we could make up our own minds without blindly spending money on a dead site, so whatever each of us choose- best of luck.

azienskieth , March 8, 2015 1:33 PM NST Thanks.



If one has Premium on a frozen account, and it hasn't been cancelled, does that Premium renew? That's one thing I'm worried about... A renewal for a year's subscription is coming up in April. @Morgan: Ah, I didn't see that.Thanks.If one has Premium on a frozen account, and it hasn't been cancelled, does that Premium renew? That's one thing I'm worried about... A renewal for a year's subscription is coming up in April.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:34 PM NST

I'm in the boat of "well, they were the only ones who even had any power to fix this" ... and I think, now, the staff were probably doing their best. And they were sacked. ... *points fingers at the management, because they're the only ones left to blame*



The management were the ones who had to lay off people, and I suppose what it comes down to is whoever is making the decisions. *sighs* There's no one else left to blame at this point. There's nobody else even left, besides the absolute essentials to keep the site running. @elvenfaery: So be it. *sighs*I'm in the boat of "well, they were the only ones who even had any power to fix this" ... and I think, now, the staff were probably doing their best. And they were sacked. ... *points fingers at the management, because they're the only ones left to blame*The management were the ones who had to lay off people, and I suppose what it comes down to is whoever is making the decisions. *sighs* There's no one else left to blame at this point. There's nobody else even left, besides the absolute essentials to keep the site running.

labpartnerincrime - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:36 PM NST @azienskieth



Paypal or CC? Paypal, you can revoke access to within your account. CC, I *think* was a contact support thing, especially since PPP people kept getting charged after that went down. I think the same happens to frozen accounts.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:36 PM NST @azienskieth: Oh, heavens, I've got access to Charter... Do you have a JN account? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I'll look around and see if I can find you the answer somewhere. It would probably say on the FAQs, but the Premium one is super outdated/confusing and has stuff about dial-up on it still.

zeelink , March 8, 2015 1:36 PM NST I wish we could make a Kickstarter or something to buy the site back from Jumpstart.



/delusions



sigh.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:36 PM NST @azienskieth: I mean a Jellyneo Forums account. Of course you have a jellyneo one. lol

escrainus , March 8, 2015 1:36 PM NST @morgan: I belive if neo goles down, I will just upload a non-playable version of it (or my story) so it jus don't desappears, but I still this justo paranoria and.. Well I apologize for bringing it up again, but maybe JN shouldn't post anything so the users didnt cry havoc all over the site :/

kouza , March 8, 2015 1:38 PM NST What's happening to Escrainus's posts?

azienskieth , March 8, 2015 1:38 PM NST @labpartner: CC. Looks like I'll have to submit another ticket...



@Morgan: Nope, no forum account.

lucy_haha , March 8, 2015 1:39 PM NST @azienskieth Yea. You'd better cancel the renewal manually through your bank.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:39 PM NST @escrainus: Since the neopian times probably isn't coming back, we could use a new place to upload stories...



*pokes Herdy and Dave* 0:-) You two want to host a Jellyneopian Times someday?



It's better to know the facts, though. I know Jellyneo doesn't mean to cause havoc, but something like this feels almost inevitable, at least, that's what my gut's telling me.

duhimalyse , March 8, 2015 1:39 PM NST What's happening to Escrainus's posts?



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I'm wondering this, too.

ziporen , March 8, 2015 1:40 PM NST @Morganjoisle: I think DTI might have the customization swfs saved, but I'm not sure, so it could be possible.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:40 PM NST Users were already freaking out on the boards, but most were ill-informed... and neoboard rules don't allow for explaining things fully.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:42 PM NST Also, a single post on JN is easier to clear up rumors and confusion than people casually popping in and out of threads that they don't bother to read all however-many pages of, and then flip out after reading one post completely out of context.

lovely_anais , March 8, 2015 1:43 PM NST @lovely_anais This post is causing panic in the forums. People have canceled premium, are trashing their collections and giving away pets BECAUSE OF THIS POST and its fatalist implicature. If JN wanted to hurt the site, this is how to do it.

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No one here advised such drastic measures as throwing away everything you have. If people refuse to read or choose to overreact, that's not Dave's fault. The post was made to give people fair warning.

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No rhino_loupe. The people who read AND DON'T understand the original post are the one who makes panic all over the site and JN.

I have to thank Dave, Nick and all the other JN staff to keep us WELL informed of what is going on the site which we all love.

kehny , March 8, 2015 1:43 PM NST I wish all of them good luck... and neo too...



Does anyone think we will get any news today?

escrainus , March 8, 2015 1:44 PM NST



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I'm wondering this, too.

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Thanks for your interest what happens is that I'm mexican so my hated autocorrect change words to spanish and since I belive JN comments doesn't supports accents it makes the whole post to vanish.



That is also why I have big grammar horrors. What's happening to Escrainus's posts?--I'm wondering this, too.---Thanks for your interestwhat happens is that I'm mexican so my hated autocorrect change words to spanish and since I belive JN comments doesn't supports accents it makes the whole post to vanish.That is also why I have big grammar horrors.

ummy - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:45 PM NST *pokes Herdy and Dave* 0:-) You two want to host a Jellyneopian Times someday?

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It would be 99% Herdy all of the time

herdy - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 1:47 PM NST



Also, come back Viacom, all is forgiven. 100%Also, come back Viacom, all is forgiven.

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 1:48 PM NST It would be 99% Herdy all of the time

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No doubt! Herdy must be convinced to do it!!!

foxycleopatra , March 8, 2015 1:49 PM NST lol @ Herdy

briezymunester , March 8, 2015 1:50 PM NST The original neopets was the best, before Viacom and before Jumpstart. Viacom started the downhill spiral neopets has been it so it tends to frustrate me that others suddenly 'miss' them now. I still see improvements to the site despite the lag in where is viacom made changes they never finished nor asked users about. Communication was at an all time low as well. How can anyone judge when the news or announcements haven't yet been made?

smartman294 , March 8, 2015 1:53 PM NST I'm starting to think we wait till some news before we throw in the towel

lovely_anais , March 8, 2015 1:54 PM NST

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Also, come back Viacom, all is forgiven.

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:54 PM NST @ziporen: That would be good. Not sure if they'd stay up after the site were to close, if it were to close, though.



@nick: With those types of boards there would be tons of posts, too. Look at the comments here, after all. lol

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 1:56 PM NST

... Other writers are amazing, too (Spooky comics are my favourite comics ever), and I mean no ill-will by my being an obsessive fangirl over everything Herdy writes. @herdy: That is because he has the bestest stories ever!!! *jumps up and down clapping*... Other writers are amazing, too (Spooky comics are my favourite comics ever), and I mean no ill-will by my being an obsessive fangirl over everything Herdy writes.

kikiro , March 8, 2015 1:59 PM NST My first comment on these forums...

I want to wish the best of luck to the laid-off Neopet team members and their families, and hope you are employed quickly and suitably.

To the artists let go, you inspired me to draw and better my skills. Thank you for the thousands of items you've drawn. Thank you for the pretty customization and paint brush art. Thank you for the years of great content and the stories, and making Neopets such a great experience. If Neopets ever shuts down, whether it be in a week or a year, then I shall always remember it fondly.

chrissy , March 8, 2015 2:00 PM NST I agree with you smartman. Personally i'll wait until they announce something officially before i cancel my premium and start making a 'memory book' of all my pets and achievements.

chrissy , March 8, 2015 2:01 PM NST Although i did make a quick screenie of my wraith usul. I would miss him most of all if neo shut down.

lonibee06 , March 8, 2015 2:02 PM NST One more thing - if they are going to shut the doors soon, and they are intentionally putting out new NC and selling the cookies for cheap, that would be reprehensible and in bad faith, imo. I worked for a company where a corporate raider came in, took what they could and shut the doors. This was a multi national, famous and historical company and it was sooo sad. I hope that JS isn't that cold. Hope.



Btw - I stupidly renewed my yearly membership last month to help prevent something like this from happeneing. Ugh - so foolish! (where's the embarrassed emoticon?)

morganjoisle , March 8, 2015 2:04 PM NST @lonibee06: They did that exact thing with Petpet Park. I mean, with continuing to really try to sell all the NC things and were really pushing for Membership, still giving people every option to renew through the day it closed.

iasonmink , March 8, 2015 2:04 PM NST neopets won't be the same without you all! *hugs* to the tnt staff that got layed off, I wish you all the best --I wish you all better jobs and great livesneopets won't be the same without you all!

almost_human , March 8, 2015 2:05 PM NST Despite all the talk, people do not seem to be giving up on Neopets. As an example; I still have not been fast enough to buy any rarer items at the shops. If people were really quitting my chances should improve, shouldn't they?

azienskieth , March 8, 2015 2:07 PM NST People are quitting, but some of the restockers haven't given up yet. It won't be any easier until the TC is empty.

almost_human , March 8, 2015 2:07 PM NST also. I hope all the best for those who have lost their jobs. They all deserve our thanks for years of fun. Best Wishes to them.

nick - JN Staff , March 8, 2015 2:08 PM NST Also, come back Viacom, all is forgiven.

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I never really hated them. Perhaps I was delusional at the time, but I always thought the hatred towards Viacom was a b