Probemicro Profile Joined February 2014 3708 Posts #41 Killer has the best ZvZ this post Kespa era. stolen the mojo from JD

prech Profile Joined March 2014 United States 2947 Posts #42 and firebathero



Voting for participants will begin soon



http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/649695 Looks like the SSL Classic will start with the BW portion on Apr 13th, KCM just posted on Ygosu that he'll be casting it, along with Yooi andVoting for participants will begin soon Liquipedia

Qikz Profile Blog Joined November 2009 United Kingdom 11679 Posts #43



Just a shame that he won't be participating. I need more Firebathero TvT in my life Firebathero casting! \o/Just a shame that he won't be participating. I need more Firebathero TvT in my life FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl

K.H.J Profile Blog Joined January 2017 Korea (South) 769 Posts Last Edited: 2017-03-17 08:03:41 #44 JinAir will be main sponsor of SSL. But it is not fixed.



JD,Flash,Bisu think SSL negative.



They say that no preliminary is nonsense, and do not want to participate in SSL







And ASL 3 is postponed a week.



910 who is ex-progamer and works in afreecatv now gives us this information.

BLinD-RawR Profile Blog Joined April 2010 ALLEYCAT BLUES 45550 Posts #45 wooow Moderator Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR

Piste Profile Blog Joined July 2006 5961 Posts #46 On March 17 2017 16:58 K.H.J wrote:

JinAir will be main sponsor of SSL. But it is not fixed.



JD,Flash,Bisu think SSL negative.



They say that no preliminary is nonsense, and do not want to participate in SSL







And ASL 3 is postponed a week.



910 who is ex-progamer and works in afreecatv now gives us this information.

Good decision. Broodwar needs fresh blood, which is not coming unless tournaments are available for everyone. SSL is just trying to get the viewers by inviting only the big guns. Good decision. Broodwar needs fresh blood, which is not coming unless tournaments are available for everyone. SSL is just trying to get the viewers by inviting only the big guns.

PVJ Profile Blog Joined July 2012 Hungary 4787 Posts Last Edited: 2017-03-17 11:14:01 #47 Yeah, I don't understand* why they chose fan voting to begin with. This isn't a showmatch.



*well, that's not correct, I do understand but I don't agree at all. The heart's eternal vow

K.H.J Profile Blog Joined January 2017 Korea (South) 769 Posts #48 On March 17 2017 19:59 PVJ wrote:

Yeah, I don't understand* why they chose fan voting to begin with. This isn't a showmatch.



*well, that's not correct, I do understand but I don't agree at all.





Yeah, in korea, most of fans and progamers are same opinion.



PGR21 is same , too. Yeah, in korea, most of fans and progamers are same opinion.PGR21 is same , too.

PVJ Profile Blog Joined July 2012 Hungary 4787 Posts #49 On March 17 2017 21:43 K.H.J wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 17 2017 19:59 PVJ wrote:

Yeah, I don't understand* why they chose fan voting to begin with. This isn't a showmatch.



*well, that's not correct, I do understand but I don't agree at all.





Yeah, in korea, most of fans and progamers are same opinion.



PGR21 is same , too. Yeah, in korea, most of fans and progamers are same opinion.PGR21 is same , too.



Hopefully that will make them reconsider at least for s2. Hopefully that will make them reconsider at least for s2. The heart's eternal vow

heluq Profile Joined October 2014 Spain 112 Posts #50 Is it offline game or online game?

BLinD-RawR Profile Blog Joined April 2010 ALLEYCAT BLUES 45550 Posts #51 Offline Moderator Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR

The_Red_Viper Profile Blog Joined August 2013 18782 Posts #52 I mean i understand that they don't like it that way but not participating is quite the big deal :/

I really want to see more BW on spotv and for that to be the case the first season surely needs to be a success.

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TheNewEra Profile Joined March 2011 Germany 2328 Posts Last Edited: 2017-03-17 20:42:38 #53 I mean, I dislike a fan vote too, but a boycott would be even dumber Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland

Bijan Profile Joined October 2010 United States 277 Posts #54 That's such a shame. I imagine they feel like it's better for the scene to have prelims even though they know they would for sure be chosen to play.



At the same time, we'll get to see how much the exclusion of these top favorites will affect viewership for an event like this and how much their names are really propping up the scene.

purakushi Profile Joined August 2012 United States 3259 Posts Last Edited: 2017-03-17 21:31:33 #55 Maybe they want to get a head start with BW HD lol June 2010 - August 2017: waiting for the return of Starcraft

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48883 Posts #56 i hope this doesn't set a precedent where TBLS abuse their star power for future events, even if this is a positive change. crossing fingers this is a one off. Commentator Twitter: @GTR1H

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TheNewEra Profile Joined March 2011 Germany 2328 Posts Last Edited: 2017-03-17 22:38:42 #57 On March 18 2017 06:16 Bijan wrote:

That's such a shame. I imagine they feel like it's better for the scene to have prelims even though they know they would for sure be chosen to play.



At the same time, we'll get to see how much the exclusion of these top favorites will affect viewership for an event like this and how much their names are really propping up the scene.



Sure. Prelims would be better but a fan vote will not decrease the fan scene. Therefore I think it's just dumb to boycott the whole event just because of this ( I know you weren't arguing against this). Sure. Prelims would be better but a fan vote will not decrease the fan scene. Therefore I think it's just dumb to boycott the whole event just because of this ( I know you weren't arguing against this). Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland

The_Red_Viper Profile Blog Joined August 2013 18782 Posts #58 waxangel made a good point on reddit, maybe they just don't wanna compete a lot anyway because streaming is more lucrative BLΛƆKPIИK in your area | IU | SoHyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |

gngfn Profile Joined January 2009 United States 1726 Posts #59 On March 18 2017 07:37 GTR wrote:

i hope this doesn't set a precedent where TBLS abuse their star power for future events, even if this is a positive change. crossing fingers this is a one off.

I would argue that it's their responsibility to use the clout they have for good in the absence of any real structure in how professional BW is organized.



Also, TBLS will continue to have this star power as long as it's impossible for anyone else to break out, which in turn will be the case as long as fan voting or Afreeca viewer count or whatever determines tournament participation. I think open signups have been important for players like Last, who is much more famous now than he ever was during the KeSPA era. I'd love to see a chart of his viewership before and after that first really good run in SSL. I would argue that it's their responsibility to use the clout they have for good in the absence of any real structure in how professional BW is organized.Also, TBLS will continue to have this star power as long as it's impossible for anyone else to break out, which in turn will be the case as long as fan voting or Afreeca viewer count or whatever determines tournament participation. I think open signups have been important for players like Last, who is much more famous now than he ever was during the KeSPA era. I'd love to see a chart of his viewership before and after that first really good run in SSL.

K.H.J Profile Blog Joined January 2017 Korea (South) 769 Posts #60 http://m.ygosu.com/board/st/655212/?page=1



SSL Classic players choice.



8 players in ASL RO24 players



Cmmenter KCM gives us this info.

SSL Classic players choice.8 players in ASL RO24 playersCmmenter KCM gives us this info.

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