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We knew Debbie Wanner was a big personality right out of the gate on Survivor: Kaoh Rong. But we soon found out she had some big game moves in here as well. So it was no surprise producers brought her back to compete in Survivor: Game Changers (premiering March 8 on CBS).

But Debbie is always good for a few surprises herself, as she showed in our interview in Fiji before the game began. Determined to go to the end with women last time, she now wants to work only with men this time out. She also has some strong words for Aubry, for whom she clearly still harbors some ill will over what went down their last go-round together.

Check out our video with a feisty Debbie above and full Q&A below. Also make sure to follow @thedaltonross on Instagram to see exclusive on-location photos, including one of Debbie casting her pre-game vote for whom she’d like to vote off first.

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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Okay, Debbie, why are you going to win Survivor: Game Changers?

DEBBIE WANNER: I will win Survivor: Game Changers because I’ve really learned my lesson from the first time. I’m not going to approach anybody in a dictatorial style. It’s more going to be, “This is a plan and here are some options. What do you think we should do?”

Why come back again?

I’m playing the second time because I’m 50 years old and time is not on my side. I still have it in me to play a very strong mental and physical game. And why not?

Whom do you want to align with out there?

A big surprise to me is who I’ve chosen to align with, who I think I’m going to work well with. It’s actually Brad and Tony — two people that I thought I would not like at all. Throw in Ozzy and J.T. and I would love to see us hang out for quite some time together.

That’s interesting because last time you said it was all about the women, but you just mentioned all men.

In my life, whatever I’ve been doing has typically been surrounded by men. Whether it was chemistry or the military, I just seem to work well with men because they’re more logical. And I don’t know why women have to cut each other’s throats, but they do. So I learned my lesson the first time out to trust women, and yeah, pinky swear, blah, blah, blah. This time I’m going for the sheer logic that men seem to have more so than women.

How do you plan to handle the two players you don’t know in Zeke and Michaela?

Michaela and Zeke are two players I do not know. I do believe they have not won. That’s my intel and they are tabula rasa, blank slates, and I look forward to knowing more about them both. Put it this way: At this point I have no reason not to trust them. And Michaela in particular just seems lovely. Fit, too. Very strong.

You have four people here from your season of Kaoh Rong. Instant alliance?

Four people here from Kaoh Rong. Nobody in their right mind is going to perceive that Aubry and I form a duo. Quite the contrary. They have to be thinking that we don’t trust each other — which is actually the case. Tai and Caleb are going to have a problem not being seen as a twosome. And Aubry and Tai are going to be seen as a twosome. So as a group I don’t know that the four of us are going to be perceived as a cohesive unit because we’re really not going to be, and definitely not in the long haul because I’m going to take Aubry out the first chance I get.

Why vote for Michele to win the million dollars over Aubry in the Kaoh Rong finals?

You really can’t trust anybody in Survivor, and yet to have to trust somebody up to a point. So when you say “I’m never going to write your name down,” and I say “I’m never going to write your name down,” [Puts two thumbs up in the air] Michele! One of us kept our word. So fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, vote me out.

Does being a big personality concern you at all in terms of how other people may feel about that?

My personality is what it is. I am intrepid, maybe eccentric. I’m just fascinated by a wide variety of things in life. But what it comes down to is I’m useful, I’m hard working, I’m very physically fit, and I’m not afraid to step forward with a plan. So for a number of reasons, I’ll be kept around camp for quite some time. I’m not worried about being one of the first people out.

How do you think other players see you?

The rest of them have got to be seeing an old woman — old is 35 in Hollywood — who is still somewhat fit. So they’re probably thinking an easy out, towards the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to tough, tough players. But by no means do I think anybody sees me as on the bottom, and that’s fine with me. They’re going to see me as someone who’s got a brain and is going to be quite useful and probably a trustworthy ally.

Will Debbie 2.0 be different from last season and how?

The second time around you will perceive more of the captain of the United States Air Force Auxiliary in me. I’m still going to have a good time, but look, somebody breaks down this time, starts sucking their thumb calling for mommy, I’m not rushing in to turn the neurotic nerd into the geek goddess. Pack your bags, go home — there’s no crying on Survivor! So see ya! The maternal instinct or the desire to do good has left the building and Machiavelli’s The Prince is here.

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