Plus, it’s pretty clear that Waytools’ next stop is GR. (Maybe @dabigkahuna can clarify. Have new issues been raised by other TREGgers?)

I really don’t know what the next step is. Heck, a lot would depend how what you consider to be a step.

For example, broadly speaking you could say all of Treg is a step. Thus when WT thinks it is ready based on internal testing , then they just allow X amount of time for us to confirm it and then they release. If that is the way you measure a step, then we’ve been in the step before final release for 2 years and 5+ months!

So maybe smaller things would be steps but I don’t know how I’d define them. I can essentially reiterate what WT has said various times:

They are looking at a new code fork they feel is important to do prior to shipping. There are a number of advantages to the fork. Some that could be said to be unnecessary to GR. Such making it easier to put things in that customers want. Or to open up more space for those new things. After all, that could be offered with an OTA. But some stuff does need to be done first - things that either minimize problems or, if new problems show up, that makes it easier to fix them. BTW, having more space also can make it easier to solve problems.

Then there are things we don’t know about. Will it include the ability to test a unit in the field? We aren’t sure what WT intends. I know some of what they can do with Treg units. I do not know if any of that will be included with GR. But it may be that they are adding more measurements. They have certainly done that during Treg.

And before anyone starts whining about wt seeing all we do, I’ll repeat the facts about that the logs we send only get recorded if we turn on that capability. If it is on, nothing gets sent unless we tap the icon to create a log. At that point, we can see the log and remove anything we don’t want included. And only after all that, we can send it or cancel.

So I hope they do include this ability.

Back to our steps. Obviously, they have to be satisfied with their own testing of the new fork. I would assume they’d also be making sure it works with treggers.

And then GR.

As for reports of problems in Treg units, even that is hard to be sure about. While I can say we hear of far fewer issues, remember there are just a bit over 100 of us. And not all are on Slack. And not all of them post regularly. I know of some who reported problems, but have never given an update in Slack. So I don’t know if they are solved or not.

Let’s do a hypothetical. I don’t have specific numbers, but suppose there were 5 people with notable problems (I’m ignoring little quirks that could be unavoidable in digital world). First question: do you ship if 5% have such notable problems. Don’t know myself, but it sounds like a lot to me, especially when you ship hundreds of thousands of units.

But that’s not the only measurement even in Treg. Because what if only 75 were ever reporting in Slack? Now it isn’t 5%, but rather closer to 7%. Then consider just those reasonably active and you percentage of those reporting is even higher.

Hopefully they are reporting to WT, but I certainly have no info on that.

Sorry to go into so much minutia but I wanted to try to show how hard it is to give a definitive answer to the questions.