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Sr. MemberActivity: 392Merit: 250 Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 04:45:35 PM #781 Quote from: minerpart on October 11, 2013, 04:40:19 PM Quote from: VolanicEruptor on October 11, 2013, 04:32:20 PM In this case, Ken is making up his own accounting rules, and it has bothered me for awhile now..



OK that might be a valid point. Have you thought about making a grown-up post about it and asking Ken to use the traditional accounting format for clarity? Being silly and immature and trying to ridicule the man at every opportunity just because you are a silly and immature person yourself helps no-body.



But if you are having fun maybe that's the main thing.

OK that might be a valid point. Have you thought about making a grown-up post about it and asking Ken to use the traditional accounting format for clarity? Being silly and immature and trying to ridicule the man at every opportunity just because you are a silly and immature person yourself helps no-body.But if you are havingmaybe that's the main thing.

I take it you haven't been around since the IPO? We have tried everything, from "grown-up" reasoning, to offering our help, to making very helpful suggestions, and EVERY TIME Ken turns it down because he seems to know better (why do you think the ENTIRE board quit?). Do you want me to post the perfect example from my PM inbox, regarding copycat images from ASUS on his website? Or are you just going to stop right there?



Try explaining to him that he should use traditional accounting, and you will get absolutely nowhere with him. Guaranteed. I take it you haven't been around since the IPO? We have tried everything, from "grown-up" reasoning, to offering our help, to making very helpful suggestions, and EVERY TIME Ken turns it down because he seems to know better (why do you think the ENTIRE board quit?). Do you want me to post the perfect example from my PM inbox, regarding copycat images from ASUS on his website? Or are you just going to stop right there?Try explaining to him that he should use traditional accounting, and you will get absolutely nowhere with him. Guaranteed. ▓▓▓ BITMIXER.IO ▓▓▓ ▓▓▓ High Volume Bitcoin MIXER ▓▓▓

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Full MemberActivity: 210Merit: 100(Bitcoin related text here) Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 05:12:29 PM #782 Quote from: VolanicEruptor on October 11, 2013, 04:45:35 PM Quote from: minerpart on October 11, 2013, 04:40:19 PM Quote from: VolanicEruptor on October 11, 2013, 04:32:20 PM In this case, Ken is making up his own accounting rules, and it has bothered me for awhile now..



OK that might be a valid point. Have you thought about making a grown-up post about it and asking Ken to use the traditional accounting format for clarity? Being silly and immature and trying to ridicule the man at every opportunity just because you are a silly and immature person yourself helps no-body.



But if you are having fun maybe that's the main thing.

OK that might be a valid point. Have you thought about making a grown-up post about it and asking Ken to use the traditional accounting format for clarity? Being silly and immature and trying to ridicule the man at every opportunity just because you are a silly and immature person yourself helps no-body.But if you are havingmaybe that's the main thing.

I take it you haven't been around since the IPO? We have tried everything, from "grown-up" reasoning, to offering our help, to making very helpful suggestions, and EVERY TIME Ken turns it down because he seems to know better (why do you think the ENTIRE board quit?). Do you want me to post the perfect example from my PM inbox, regarding copycat images from ASUS on his website? Or are you just going to stop right there?



Try explaining to him that he should use traditional accounting, and you will get absolutely nowhere with him. Guaranteed.

I take it you haven't been around since the IPO? We have tried everything, from "grown-up" reasoning, to offering our help, to making very helpful suggestions, and EVERY TIME Ken turns it down because he seems to know better (why do you think the ENTIRE board quit?). Do you want me to post the perfect example from my PM inbox, regarding copycat images from ASUS on his website? Or are you just going to stop right there?Try explaining to him that he should use traditional accounting, and you will get absolutely nowhere with him. Guaranteed.

None of this matters; when we see how much money is planned to come in from pre-orders we can cast judgement on how the project has been handled then. "If it ain't broke don't fix it " and right now we have no reason to believe things aren't going great in the the pre-orders department.



tl;dr The number don't lie, and we'll know everything we need to know shortly. None of this matters; when we see how much money is planned to come in from pre-orders we can cast judgement on how the project has been handled then. "If it ain't broke don't fix it " and right now we have no reason to believe things aren't going great in the the pre-orders department.tl;dr The number don't lie, and we'll know everything we need to know shortly.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 378Merit: 250 Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 06:29:40 PM #783 The ultimate scam of the whole deal is that American share-holders are being forced to dump their shares well below what they paid for them, prior to any chips hashing. And that is coming only a couple weeks after the exchange told everyone things were good and to bring your shares over.



If there some kind of plan for this that I haven't read up on?

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Sr. MemberActivity: 280Merit: 250IIIIII====II====IIIIII Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 06:35:44 PM #784 Quote from: VolanicEruptor on October 11, 2013, 04:45:35 PM Try explaining to him that he should use traditional accounting, and you will get absolutely nowhere with him. Guaranteed.



Yeah I've been here since IPO and I know it's morons with your attitude that kept Ken away from the original thread. Obviously that and his single mindedness to get the business moving. His site is making 90k (in the bank) a month and you are not happy. Much more in the near future. He's covered the exchange issues with his own sites - have you given him any credit for that foresight and work? No. He got a press release from eASIC in a weekend after huge forum pressure - any credit? Not much. He took the mine pic down. He restructured the entire IPO ffs - how is this not listening?



Every single stock has suffered recently yet according to you it's all Kens fault. You sound like a spoilt brat screaming at his mom for stopping him from running out into traffic - no reason, no logic, pure emotion. The only valid argument is lack of PR that's it. But Ken clearly doesn't think a proposition this strong needs the PR bandwaggon that LabCon and Terrahash took money on. To some that is not a failing - it's 100% belief. With his site taking 90k a month maybe he's right?



As for your 'he doesn't listen to ME' argument, he's been on here quite a bit since the news of the btc-tc shutdown (and obviously this is a new thread moderated by him personally) - so there was your opportunity for dialogue. You've pissed all over that chance with your immaturity and if I were him I'd ignore every word your write. You have acted like a total punk and that's how you deserve to be treated. Scream and you'll be heard? I don't think so punk. Yeah I've been here since IPO and I know it's morons with your attitude that kept Ken away from the original thread. Obviously that and his single mindedness to get the business moving. His site is making 90k (in the bank) a month and you are not happy. Much more in the near future. He's covered the exchange issues with his own sites - have you given him any credit for that foresight and work? No. He got a press release from eASIC in a weekend after huge forum pressure - any credit? Not much. He took the mine pic down. He restructured the entire IPO ffs - how is this not listening?Every single stock has suffered recently yet according to you it's all Kens fault. You sound like a spoilt brat screaming at his mom for stopping him from running out into traffic - no reason, no logic, pure emotion. The only valid argument is lack of PR that's it. But Ken clearly doesn't think a proposition this strong needs the PR bandwaggon that LabCon and Terrahash took money on. To some that is not a failing - it's 100% belief. With his site taking 90k a month maybe he's right?As for your 'he doesn't listen to ME' argument, he's been on here quite a bit since the news of the btc-tc shutdown (and obviously this is a new thread moderated by him personally) - so there was your opportunity for dialogue. You've pissed all over that chance with your immaturity and if I were him I'd ignore every word your write. You have acted like a total punk and that's how you deserve to be treated. Scream and you'll be heard? I don't think so punk.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 280Merit: 250IIIIII====II====IIIIII Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 06:37:04 PM #785 Quote from: Vigil on October 11, 2013, 06:29:40 PM The ultimate scam of the whole deal is that American share-holders are being forced to dump their shares well below what they paid for them, prior to any chips hashing. And that is coming only a couple weeks after the exchange told everyone things were good and to bring your shares over.



If there some kind of plan for this that I haven't read up on?



Good God can you even read? Can you go back like 2 pages? Is that to much effort for you? So the SEC are scamming US investors are they? Muppet. Good God can you even read? Can you go back like 2 pages? Is that to much effort for you? So the SEC are scamming US investors are they? Muppet.

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Hero MemberActivity: 658Merit: 500decentralize EVERYTHING... Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 06:44:00 PM #788 Quote from: minerpart on October 11, 2013, 06:35:44 PM Quote from: VolanicEruptor on October 11, 2013, 04:45:35 PM Try explaining to him that he should use traditional accounting, and you will get absolutely nowhere with him. Guaranteed.



Yeah I've been here since IPO and I know it's morons with your attitude that kept Ken away from the original thread. Obviously that and his single mindedness to get the business moving. His site is making 90k (in the bank) a month and you are not happy. Much more in the near future. He's covered the exchange issues with his own sites - have you given him any credit for that foresight and work? No. He got a press release from eASIC in a weekend after huge forum pressure - any credit? Not much. He took the mine pic down. He restructured the entire IPO ffs - how is this not listening?



Every single stock has suffered recently yet according to you it's all Kens fault. You sound like a spoilt brat screaming at his mom for stopping him from running out into traffic - no reason, no logic, pure emotion. The only valid argument is lack of PR that's it. But Ken clearly doesn't think a proposition this strong needs the PR bandwaggon that LabCon and Terrahash took money on. To some that is not a failing - it's 100% belief. With his site taking 90k a month maybe he's right?



As for your 'he doesn't listen to ME' argument, he's been on here quite a bit since the news of the btc-tc shutdown (and obviously this is a new thread moderated by him personally) - so there was your opportunity for dialogue. You've pissed all over that chance with your immaturity and if I were him I'd ignore every word your write. You have acted like a total punk and that's how you deserve to be treated. Scream and you'll be heard? I don't think so punk.

Yeah I've been here since IPO and I know it's morons with your attitude that kept Ken away from the original thread. Obviously that and his single mindedness to get the business moving. His site is making 90k (in the bank) a month and you are not happy. Much more in the near future. He's covered the exchange issues with his own sites - have you given him any credit for that foresight and work? No. He got a press release from eASIC in a weekend after huge forum pressure - any credit? Not much. He took the mine pic down. He restructured the entire IPO ffs - how is this not listening?Every single stock has suffered recently yet according to you it's all Kens fault. You sound like a spoilt brat screaming at his mom for stopping him from running out into traffic - no reason, no logic, pure emotion. The only valid argument is lack of PR that's it. But Ken clearly doesn't think a proposition this strong needs the PR bandwaggon that LabCon and Terrahash took money on. To some that is not a failing - it's 100% belief. With his site taking 90k a month maybe he's right?As for your 'he doesn't listen to ME' argument, he's been on here quite a bit since the news of the btc-tc shutdown (and obviously this is a new thread moderated by him personally) - so there was your opportunity for dialogue. You've pissed all over that chance with your immaturity and if I were him I'd ignore every word your write. You have acted like a total punk and that's how you deserve to be treated. Scream and you'll be heard? I don't think so punk.

VE's demeanor, entitled attitude and braggadocio over these past few months is very similar to the trust-fund-babies I have known. VE's demeanor, entitled attitude and braggadocio over these past few months is very similar to the trust-fund-babies I have known.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 280Merit: 250IIIIII====II====IIIIII Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 06:50:22 PM #789 Quote from: VolanicEruptor on October 11, 2013, 04:45:35 PM EVERY TIME Ken turns it down because he seems to know better (why do you think the ENTIRE board quit?)



Come back in a month and see what he has created. He is a very very experienced businessman with great vision. Every Board member attested to that. They left because they were an Advisory group who's advice wasn't listened to. The CEO is well within his rights to do that and you'll find every business that became huge had early conflict in the Board room. Someone needs to call the shots and if you don't like Ken's approach to business sell your interests in his venture.



Also they quit as they wanted the freedom to get into NeoBee - the stock that has no future IMO. Come back in a month and see what he has created. He is a very very experienced businessman with great vision. Every Board member attested to that. They left because they were an Advisory group who's advice wasn't listened to. The CEO is well within his rights to do that and you'll find every business that became huge had early conflict in the Board room. Someone needs to call the shots and if you don't like Ken's approach to business sell your interests in his venture.Also they quit as they wanted the freedom to get into NeoBee - the stock that has no future IMO.

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LegendaryActivity: 980Merit: 1008 Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] October 11, 2013, 07:19:37 PM #790 More disclosures are needed . Trying to value this company, but its impossible with the information we have.

I may have missed some pieces, but right now all I know is that market cap is currently >$800K while it has closer to $300K in its order book.

That doesnt look great, but its meaningless if we dont know how much of the IPO money has been spent, and how many TH will be brought online.



I understand NDA's restrict your ability to full disclosure, but right now its not investing, its throwing a dart.