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Message 86255 - Posted: 21 May 2018, 18:04:25 UTC Version 7.10.2 of the BOINC client software has been released. It incorporates many bug fixes; a list of changes is here ID: 86255 ·

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Is someone working to update the Version History and the Release notes tabs ?



https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php



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Dallas TX DavidIs someone working to update the Version History and the Release notes tabs ?https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.phpThanksBill FDallas TX ID: 86276 ·

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Message 86277 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 7:24:39 UTC - in response to Message 86276.

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The release notes are there as well, they're just not forwarded to the new correct ones, a little thing I asked David to do yesterday as well... and he didn't.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes_for_BOINC_7.10 Please do not private message me for tech support, these will be ignored! I'm sure I did the version history yesterday, but perhaps I didn't save that. Fixed now!The release notes are there as well, they're just not forwarded to the new correct ones, a little thing I asked David to do yesterday as well... and he didn't. ID: 86277 ·

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Joined: 23 May 18Posts: 4 Message 86287 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 14:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 86255. I have had nothing but trouble since downloading 7.10.2. Boinc runs, but when I leave the boinc window, I can't get back to it except by using the download file to repair the software. ID: 86287 ·

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Message 86297 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 18:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 86287. I have had nothing but trouble since downloading 7.10.2. Boinc runs, but when I leave the boinc window, I can't get back to it except by using the download file to repair the software. Operating system, and version thereof? Operating system, and version thereof? ID: 86297 ·

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Message 86313 - Posted: 25 May 2018, 11:33:58 UTC - in response to Message 86309. Windows 10 pro, version 1803 I thought that might be the case.



Microsoft has been playing around with the display of icons in the notification area, and version 1803 seems to be the worst case yet. Even the up-arrow to 'Show hidden icons' doesn't show the BOINC Manager icon any more - but it's running.



All is not lost. This site seems to have a comprehensive set of options:



I've tested them under 1803, and they still work. Perhaps the neatest is pressing the Win + R keys on the keyboard to open the 'Run' command dialog, and pasting



shell:::{05d7b0f4-2121-4eff-bf6b-ed3f69b894d9} into the box: that opens the Windows 7 style customisation page, and you can set the BOINC Manager behaviour to 'Show icon and notifications'. BOINC Manager does have to be running for it to show in the customisation list.



I had my machine set to show icons before the 1803 update, so I haven't been able to test every part of the process: perhaps you could let us know how you get on. I thought that might be the case.Microsoft has been playing around with the display of icons in the notification area, and version 1803 seems to be the worst case yet. Even the up-arrow to 'Show hidden icons' doesn't show the BOINC Manager icon any more - but it's running.All is not lost. This site seems to have a comprehensive set of options: https://winaero.com/blog/always-show-tray-icons-windows-10/ I've tested them under 1803, and they still work. Perhaps the neatest is pressing the Win + R keys on the keyboard to open the 'Run' command dialog, and pastinginto the box: that opens the Windows 7 style customisation page, and you can set the BOINC Manager behaviour to 'Show icon and notifications'. BOINC Manager does have to be running for it to show in the customisation list.I had my machine set to show icons before the 1803 update, so I haven't been able to test every part of the process: perhaps you could let us know how you get on. ID: 86313 ·

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Joined: 23 May 18Posts: 4 Message 86318 - Posted: 26 May 2018, 9:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 86313. I can now get to Boinc using the "show hidden icons" button. ID: 86318 ·

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Message 86319 - Posted: 26 May 2018, 10:36:29 UTC - in response to Message 86318.

Last modified: 26 May 2018, 10:39:22 UTC I can now get to Boinc using the "show hidden icons" button.



By default Windows seems to make it's own decisions as to what is shown in the taskbar, if you wish to get the Boinc icon visible, then:



Right click anywhere on the taskbar, this will bring up this menu:







Then click "Taskbar settings" and on the next page scroll down to "Select which icons appear on the taskbar"







And make sure that Boinc is "On"



By default Windows seems to make it's own decisions as to what is shown in the taskbar, if you wish to get the Boinc icon visible, then:Right click anywhere on the taskbar, this will bring up this menu:Then click "Taskbar settings" and on the next page scroll down to "Select which icons appear on the taskbar"And make sure that Boinc is "On" ID: 86319 ·

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Message 86320 - Posted: 26 May 2018, 10:58:29 UTC

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There has been discussion about this issue in the BOINC developer community, and support from at least one of the 'senior' developers for setting the visibility switch via the installer when a new version of BOINC is deployed. Has anybody come across documentation about how that value is memorised by Windows? (My guess would be a GUID registry value). And given that Windows itself can only change it when the application is running, could it be set at installation? Does anyone have any example of any other applications which set their own visibility?



Later: I've been reading through MSDN, specifically

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd378460(v=vs.85).aspx#notification

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee330740(v=vs.85).aspx#install_icon



The latter contains

Each icon in the notification area can be identified in two ways:

The GUID with which the icon is declared in the registry. This is the preferred method on Windows 7 and later.



The handle of a window associated with the notification area icon, plus an application-defined icon identifier. This method is used on Windows Vista and earlier.

Our icon (in code) doesn't seem to have a GUID - the handle seems to be retrieved at runtime. That should make it compatible with Vista, but unknown at installation time. Um. We're going to have to keep an eye on this one. I think (but I can't prove it) that immediately after 1803, BOINC Manager didn't appear in that list. Since then, there's been one more monthly rollup (but not a full version upgrade), and now it does.There has been discussion about this issue in the BOINC developer community, and support from at least one of the 'senior' developers for setting the visibility switch via the installer when a new version of BOINC is deployed. Has anybody come across documentation about how that value is memorised by Windows? (My guess would be a GUID registry value). And given that Windows itself can only change it when the application is running, could it be set at installation? Does anyone have any example of any other applications which set their own visibility?Later: I've been reading through MSDN, specificallyThe latter containsOur icon (in code) doesn't seem to have a GUID - the handle seems to be retrieved at runtime. That should make it compatible with Vista, but unknown at installation time. Um. ID: 86320 ·

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Message 86322 - Posted: 26 May 2018, 19:13:26 UTC - in response to Message 86320.



From your first link



All notification icons are now hidden by default and that visibility cannot be programmatically controlled. Only the user is allowed to choose which notification icons appear on the taskbar.



The best we might be able to do is provide a link to the settings app somewhere. I haven't updated to 1803 yet. Remind me to check the list after I have updated.From your first linkThe best we might be able to do is provide a link to the settings app somewhere. ID: 86322 ·

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Joined: 28 May 18Posts: 2 Message 86332 - Posted: 28 May 2018, 10:05:06 UTC I think there's something wrong with the installation package : I upgraded the 64 bits version from 7.8.3 to 7.10.2 on 4 machines, 3 had no issues (they're all upgraded to Windows 10 1803), but I can't upgrade on one of them. I don't know if there's a link, but this machine didn't upgrade to 1803 so it's still using Windows 10 1709 ...



The downloaded package successfully decompresses the installer package, asks for installation options (folders and so on), uninstall previous version, but when it comes to install the new one, it complains that it can find the installer package (BOINC.msi) and prompt for manual selection. When I select the package, it claims that it's not a valid installer package and refuses to continue.



I had to revert this machine to 7.8.3 which "repaired" installation fine. ID: 86332 ·

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Message 86333 - Posted: 28 May 2018, 10:20:31 UTC - in response to Message 86332.

Last modified: 28 May 2018, 10:20:51 UTC I had to revert this machine to 7.8.3 which "repaired" installation fine. If you did that by reinstalling 7.8.3, then the problem is now fixed.

The problem happens when Windows gets confused about which BOINC.msi package to use, because it's lost the vital information of where it parked it. We've had this problem about forever on Windows, there's a whole



But if you reinstalled 7.8.3, the link with the correct BOINC.msi has been restored and you can now install 7.10.2 Please do not private message me for tech support, these will be ignored! If you did that by reinstalling 7.8.3, then the problem is now fixed.The problem happens when Windows gets confused about which BOINC.msi package to use, because it's lost the vital information of where it parked it. We've had this problem about forever on Windows, there's a whole long, long FAQ on this and similar errors.But if you reinstalled 7.8.3, the link with the correct BOINC.msi has been restored and you can now install 7.10.2 ID: 86333 ·

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edit : I tried again the whole process of repairing 7.8.3 installation and then installing 7.10.2 and it finally worked ... No, it's still broken when I try to install 7.10.2 over 7.8.3 on this machine ...edit : I tried again the whole process of repairing 7.8.3 installation and then installing 7.10.2 and it finally worked ... ID: 86344 ·

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Message 86352 - Posted: 29 May 2018, 16:42:31 UTC - in response to Message 86320. We're going to have to keep an eye on this one. I think (but I can't prove it) that immediately after 1803, BOINC Manager didn't appear in that list. Since then, there's been one more monthly rollup (but not a full version upgrade), and now it does.



1803 happened. Manager was on the list right after 1803 upgrade and still is after installing cumulative update.



I don't have an icon in taskbar but that's because I'm using self compiled Manager which has a bug that makes it not have taskbar icon. I was going to install the official 7.10.2 before upgrading but I goofed up and the upgrade started in less controlled fashion than I had planned. 1803 happened. Manager was on the list right after 1803 upgrade and still is after installing cumulative update.I don't have an icon in taskbar but that's because I'm using self compiled Manager which has a bug that makes it not have taskbar icon. I was going to install the official 7.10.2 before upgrading but I goofed up and the upgrade started in less controlled fashion than I had planned. ID: 86352 ·

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Joined: 7 Dec 16Posts: 4 Message 86394 - Posted: 31 May 2018, 5:06:14 UTC - in response to Message 86255. Version 7.10.2 of the BOINC client software has been released. It incorporates many bug fixes; ...



I believe it introduced a few as well. I've noticed that none of the columns correctly sort when you click on the column header (I only run Seti@Home, so might be project specific). This seems to be the case for all of the columns I display in Manager: Progress, Status, Elapsed, Remaining (estimate), Deadline, and Application.



Windows 10 64 bit ver 1803 / build 17134.81 I believe it introduced a few as well. I've noticed that none of the columns correctly sort when you click on the column header (I only run Seti@Home, so might be project specific). This seems to be the case for all of the columns I display in Manager: Progress, Status, Elapsed, Remaining (estimate), Deadline, and Application.Windows 10 64 bit ver 1803 / build 17134.81 ID: 86394 ·

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Last modified: 2 Jun 2018, 4:14:23 UTC I believe it introduced a few as well. I've noticed that none of the columns correctly sort when you click on the column header (I only run Seti@Home, so might be project specific). This seems to be the case for all of the columns I display in Manager: Progress, Status, Elapsed, Remaining (estimate), Deadline, and Application.



Windows 10 64 bit ver 1803 / build 17134.81

FIXED:

I recently also updated to BOINC 7.10.2 on my laptop as well and the column sorting still works. Running the same version of Windows on both computers, so had a bit of a mystery on my hands. The only major difference between running on the laptop and the tower I have would be the screen resolution -- 1920x1080 Intel 620 graphics vs. 3840x2160 Nvidia 1060 graphics. So I tried changing the tower's resolution to 1080p and restarted BOINC. That actually fixed the problem. I reverted back to 4K on the tower and the column sorting still works.



So an quick and easy fix, but still something that someone might want to look into at some point. FIXED:I recently also updated to BOINC 7.10.2 on my laptop as well and the column sorting still works. Running the same version of Windows on both computers, so had a bit of a mystery on my hands. The only major difference between running on the laptop and the tower I have would be the screen resolution -- 1920x1080 Intel 620 graphics vs. 3840x2160 Nvidia 1060 graphics. So I tried changing the tower's resolution to 1080p and restarted BOINC. That actually fixed the problem. I reverted back to 4K on the tower and the column sorting still works.So an quick and easy fix, but still something that someone might want to look into at some point. ID: 86421 ·