RaNgeD Profile Blog Joined March 2009 United States 726 Posts Last Edited: 2012-10-09 01:13:19 #1



Almost two weeks ago I played EmpireMista in the quarter-finals of the EU Playhem Daily. After losing 0-2 I proceeded to watch the replays, searching for my mistakes. The following are some odd things that I noticed in the first game, that you can download here:



Some timings to note:



(5:43 - 5:52) Screen lock (I assume hes looking into my base)



(6:24 - 6:26) Screen locks in his base while he moves the pheonix down the map. This shouldn't be too suspicious at first glance, because he can click on the minimap. but the clicks are so precise, ending right at the bottom of my ramp, where, surprise surprise, my sentries are awaiting their doom.



(7:08 - 7:11) Another camera lock. Maybe hes just clicking on the minimap again, but also take note that if you go to everyones vision, my pheonix are hunting his.



(7:12 - 7:17) A Looong camera lock where he is clicking his pheonix on the left side of the map. He then sets a rally for the pheonix's to go back to his base.



(7:22 - 7:34) Watch this one twice. Once from his vision only and once from everyone's vision. My pheonix's are about to intercept his and he turns around with zero information. This is the action that caught my attention intitially and I think is the biggest evidence that he is hacking in this game.



Youtube video where I break down the replay and the suspicious actions of the first replay: I'll start by saying that I am 100% out of my comfort zone here. I prefer to keep to my own business and stay out of others; but because this is an issue that effects more than just me, I decided to go through with this.Almost two weeks ago I played EmpireMista in the quarter-finals of the EU Playhem Daily. After losing 0-2 I proceeded to watch the replays, searching for my mistakes. The following are some odd things that I noticed in the first game, that you can download here: http://drop.sc/260479 Some timings to note:(5:43 - 5:52) Screen lock (I assume hes looking into my base)(6:24 - 6:26) Screen locks in his base while he moves the pheonix down the map. This shouldn't be too suspicious at first glance, because he can click on the minimap. but the clicks are so precise, ending right at the bottom of my ramp, where, surprise surprise, my sentries are awaiting their doom.(7:08 - 7:11) Another camera lock. Maybe hes just clicking on the minimap again, but also take note that if you go to everyones vision, my pheonix are hunting his.(7:12 - 7:17) A Looong camera lock where he is clicking his pheonix on the left side of the map. He then sets a rally for the pheonix's to go back to his base.(7:22 - 7:34) Watch this one twice. Once from his vision only and once from everyone's vision. My pheonix's are about to intercept his and he turns around with zero information. This is the action that caught my attention intitially and I think is the biggest evidence that he is hacking in this game.Youtube video where I break down the replay and the suspicious actions of the first replay:



1) He does not scout his main for proxy gateways, or send a probe to my base at all. It can be argued that a lot of players take this small risk to get ahead, and they use the extra minerals gained by not scouting to make an extra zealot, or get something out faster to stop early aggression. ie a 4 gate or an earlier 3 gate attack.



2) Even though he hasn't scouted me, he proceeds to use 4 chrono boosts on his nexus. With his build there is no way he stops a 4 gate or earlier 3 gate (the 10 gate style).



The above information by itself can in no way prove he hacks. Maybe he is just taking some risks, cutting some corners. To me it's a bit suspicious, especially since I found this replay of him vs Siw and plays extremely different with zero information. (but he is getting 4 gated) Rep:





Evidences regarding the 2nd game vs Siw on Antiga:



(4:42 - 4:46) Camera lock. Maybe just spamming for another stalker.



(4:53 - 4:56) Camera locks in his base, as soon as the lock is over, he clicks his stalkers to go kill the recently constructed proxy pylon of siw, and then the first one.



Youtube video where I breakdown the suspicious actions in the second game: 1) He does not scout his main for proxy gateways, or send a probe to my base at all. It can be argued that a lot of players take this small risk to get ahead, and they use the extra minerals gained by not scouting to make an extra zealot, or get something out faster to stop early aggression. ie a 4 gate or an earlier 3 gate attack.2) Even though he hasn't scouted me, he proceeds to use 4 chrono boosts on his nexus. With his build there is no way he stops a 4 gate or earlier 3 gate (the 10 gate style).The above information by itself can in no way prove he hacks. Maybe he is just taking some risks, cutting some corners. To me it's a bit suspicious, especially since I found this replay of him vs Siw and plays extremely different with zero information. (but he is getting 4 gated) Rep: http://drop.sc/260481 Evidences regarding the 2nd game vs Siw on Antiga:(4:42 - 4:46) Camera lock. Maybe just spamming for another stalker.(4:53 - 4:56) Camera locks in his base, as soon as the lock is over, he clicks his stalkers to go kill the recently constructed proxy pylon of siw, and then the first one.Youtube video where I breakdown the suspicious actions in the second game:



I understand that it may be hard to come to a conclusion from 2 replays. I did my best to find more games, but these two games seemed to be the most suspicious to me. If you've played TheMista I would appreciate your input or the replays, pm them to me or post them here. Anyone who is willing to take the time to break these replays down, or any other replays of themista that are suspicious, your time is very much appreciate. I do not believe people should be able to get away with this, and I would not post if I was not certain that hacks are being used in this.



Edit: More evidence.

This replay:



Notice no scout. Also notice the fact that he prepares for a warp prism with ZERO information. Even putting a TON of effort into watching a probe that MIGHT get vision of the warp prism, that he actually knows is there, but never saw on the minimap at all.

The video: I understand that it may be hard to come to a conclusion from 2 replays. I did my best to find more games, but these two games seemed to be the most suspicious to me. If you've played TheMista I would appreciate your input or the replays, pm them to me or post them here. Anyone who is willing to take the time to break these replays down, or any other replays of themista that are suspicious, your time is very much appreciate. I do not believe people should be able to get away with this, and I would not post if I was not certain that hacks are being used in this.Edit: More evidence.This replay: http://drop.sc/257086 Notice no scout. Also notice the fact that he prepares for a warp prism with ZERO information. Even putting a TON of effort into watching a probe that MIGHT get vision of the warp prism, that he actually knows is there, but never saw on the minimap at all.The video: Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7