Former Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden sits down with CNN's Chris Cuomo to discuss his positions and what he'd look for in a running mate if he were to secure his party's nomination. Biden also spoke about how he was not prepared for the way Sen. Kamala Harris confronted him on his record with busing and school desegregation.





CHRIS CUOMO, CNN: There are domestic agenda items I want to tick through. But you have made a big point of saying the threat here with the current administration is abroad. What exactly bothers you abroad?

FMR. VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, 2020 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT: What bothered me abroad is, look, the idea that we can go it alone who no alliances for the next 20 or 30 years is a disaster. How are we going to deal with stateless terrorism without doing what I've been able to do with the president: put together a coalition of 50, 60 nations to take it on?



I come out of a generation where we were trying to be the policemen of the world. We can't go in every place. We need allies. He is absolutely dissing them. He's embracing thugs. He's embracing Kim Jong-un, who is a thug. He's embracing Putin, who is a -- who is a flat dictator. He's embracing people who, in fact -- and he's stiff- arming our friends. He's threatening NATO, to pull out of NATO. I mean, come on.



CUOMO: He says he's gotten NATO to give in more money for their defense because of his tactics.



BIDEN: Come on, man. Give me a break. And by the way, the idea that NATO -- let me put it this way. If he wins re-election, I promise you there will be no NATO in four years or five years.



CUOMO: You think there will be no more NATO if he's re- elected?



BIDEN: No more NATO. Look, I went to the conference in -- that we have. It's called the Verecunda (ph) Conference, used to be. The first speech [SIC] stood up, the chancellor, the former chancellor of Germany stands up. She says, "We have to go it alone. We can't count on the United States."



Why did we set up NATO, Chris? So no one nation could abuse the power in the region in Europe, would suck us in the way they did in World War I and World War II. It's being crushed.



Look at what's happened with Putin. While he -- while Putin is trying to undo our elections, he is undoing elections in -- in Europe. Look what's happened in Hungary. Look what's happened in Poland. Look what's happened in -- look what's happening. You think that would have happened on my watch or Barack's watch? You can't answer that, but I promise you it wouldn't have, and it didn't.