Dexerion Profile Joined May 2010 United States 43 Posts Last Edited: 2011-09-18 01:40:24 #1



If you are with a group, and you get up and your friend holds your seat, that's one thing. However, you didn't pay for a SEAT. Why shouldn't a few of the other people there at the event get an opportunity to sit down?



So here is the big question. Who is the bigger asshole? The person who moves the random item out of the seat and sits down, or the person who is trying to act like they own a seat?



Poll: Is it ok to remove items from a vacant seat at the MLG and sit down?



Yes, they are being extremely rude by claiming something they didn't pay for. (174)

74%



Sometimes, ask ppl around the seat 1st (33)

14%



Never, don't touch other ppls crap, regardless of how rude they are. (28)

12%



235 total votes (174)74%(33)14%(28)12%235 total votes Your vote: Is it ok to remove items from a vacant seat at the MLG and sit down? (Vote): Yes, they are being extremely rude by claiming something they didn't pay for.

(Vote): Sometimes, ask ppl around the seat 1st

(Vote): Never, don't touch other ppls crap, regardless of how rude they are.



So my buddy and I are at MLG Raleigh and we sit down and enjoy a game. Since the games come SO SLOW we get up to enjoy the rest of the festivities. Later, we come back to the main stage area as the game is about to begin only to find somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 40% of the seats with cans of Dr. Pepper, backpacks, 1 flip flop, a pack of gum, or some other various object to "save the seat."If you are with a group, and you get up and your friend holds your seat, that's one thing. However, you didn't pay for a SEAT. Why shouldn't a few of the other people there at the event get an opportunity to sit down?So here is the big question. Who is the bigger asshole? The person who moves the random item out of the seat and sits down, or the person who is trying to act like they own a seat?

StyLeD Profile Joined January 2011 United States 2954 Posts #2 Add a poll.



Personally, I think the person who moves the item out of the seat is the bigger asshole. Why? The difference between the seat-holder and the item-mover is that the seat-holder put an effort into keeping that seat while the item-mover put 0 effort in reserving a seat at all. "Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3

Haegr9599 Profile Joined April 2011 United States 202 Posts #3 IMO, the person who moves the random item out of the seat. While they dont OWN the seat per se, its still pretty BM to move it out of the way so you can sit. Kinda a first come first serve rule i guess I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies

Primal666 Profile Joined November 2010 Slovenia 388 Posts #4 Depends how strong you are.

Kipsate Profile Blog Joined July 2010 Netherlands 29619 Posts #5 ah damn, I thought this was going to be a continuation of the whole Xeris NASL guy debacle. Writer Xiao8~~

SafeAsCheese Profile Joined June 2011 United States 4924 Posts #6 MLG needs to sell seat tickets if this is an issue



If there is no assigned seating, then taking seats if nobody is there is not an asshole move, unless there is an actual person there, like a guy holding the seat for his girlfriend or something who went to the bathroom.

FryktSkyene Profile Joined December 2010 United States 1173 Posts #7 Both of you. Snitches get stiches

Roe Profile Blog Joined June 2010 Canada 5999 Posts Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:43:11 #8 The person who moves the item is in the wrong. You paid money to effectively rent the chair for the duration of the event so someone using it would infringe your right. Also depends on the specifics of each event.

icebloom Profile Joined July 2011 Germany 15 Posts #9

That's the good old towel + canvas chair problematic you are facing at every hotel.



IMO the person "reserving" the seat, can be happy that you didnt rob him of his whole stuff, while he left it alone Oh.. you are opening up a can there.That's the good old towel + canvas chair problematic you are facing at every hotel.IMO the person "reserving" the seat, can be happy that you didnt rob him of his whole stuff, while he left it alone

SafeAsCheese Profile Joined June 2011 United States 4924 Posts #10 On September 18 2011 06:42 Roe wrote:

The person who moves the item is in the wrong. You paid money to effectively rent the chair for the duration of the event so someone using it would infringe your right. Also depends on the specifics of each event.



You pay to get in, not for a chair. You pay to get in, not for a chair.

GertHeart Profile Blog Joined February 2011 United States 623 Posts #11 On September 18 2011 06:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:

MLG needs to sell seat tickets if this is an issue



If there is no assigned seating, then taking seats if nobody is there is not an asshole move, unless there is an actual person there, like a guy holding the seat for his girlfriend or something who went to the bathroom.



This is an okay idea, sell the front 20-50 seats for 20 bucks a seat This is an okay idea, sell the front 20-50 seats for 20 bucks a seat He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert

DarkPlasmaBall Profile Blog Joined March 2010 United States 38956 Posts Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:52:52 #12 On September 18 2011 06:42 Roe wrote:

The person who moves the item is in the wrong. You paid money to effectively rent the chair for the duration of the event so someone using it would infringe your right. Also depends on the specifics of each event.



To be fair, no you didn't. You got their first... but you left. So then someone else could have that seat. You didn't pay for that seat. It's not like at a sporting event, where you may specifically buy a ticket for a specific seat, which makes it yours for that event.



Plenty of people stand during MLG. And it would be bullshit if I got there before everyone else and put one little food item across three rows of chairs and shouted "EVERYTHING'S RESERVED!"



Clearly, there needs to be some sort of compromise. You pay to get into the event. You don't pay to get seating. I'm cool with people saving other people's seats if they made a quick run to the bathroom or to get food, but not with inanimate objects lying across entire rows for long periods of time.



Also, if I see an empty chair (or even one with something on it) and I ask the people around that chair, "Is that chair saved?" and no one thinks or knows if it's saved (because the guy who was sitting there before wasn't smart enough to tell his neighbor to save it for two minutes, while he runs to the bathroom), I'm going to take that chair. I asked. No one knew. You gotta at least let your neighbors know to keep an eye on your chair. That's your duty; mine is to ask if your seat is taken. To be fair, no you didn't. You got their first... but you left. So then someone else could have that seat. You didn't pay for that seat. It's not like at a sporting event, where you may specifically buy a ticket for a specific seat, which makes it yours for that event.Plenty of people stand during MLG. And it would be bullshit if I got there before everyone else and put one little food item across three rows of chairs and shouted "EVERYTHING'S RESERVED!"Clearly, there needs to be some sort of compromise. You pay to get into the event. You don't pay to get seating. I'm cool with people saving other people's seats if they made a quick run to the bathroom or to get food, but not with inanimate objects lying across entire rows for long periods of time.Also, if I see an empty chair (or even one with something on it) and I ask the people around that chair, "Is that chair saved?" and no one thinks or knows if it's saved (because the guy who was sitting there before wasn't smart enough to tell his neighbor to save it for two minutes, while he runs to the bathroom), I'm going to take that chair. I asked. No one knew. You gotta at least let your neighbors know to keep an eye on your chair. That's your duty; mine is to ask if your seat is taken. "There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100

storm44 Profile Blog Joined July 2010 1271 Posts #13 I don't see anything wrong with moving crap out of the seats if you come back to the seats early to watch the game. I haven't been to an MLG so I don't know the exact details but since you don't pay for the seats themselves everyone should get an opportunity to get a seat, and it should go to the person who is willing to go to the seating section area early not whoever put their pack of gum down.

I_Love_Bacon Profile Blog Joined August 2009 United States 4681 Posts #14 On September 18 2011 06:44 SafeAsCheese wrote:

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On September 18 2011 06:42 Roe wrote:

The person who moves the item is in the wrong. You paid money to effectively rent the chair for the duration of the event so someone using it would infringe your right. Also depends on the specifics of each event.



You pay to get in, not for a chair. You pay to get in, not for a chair.



Pretty much this. You have a friend hold a seat or two while you're up and going to the bathroom, stretch, or getting something to eat/drink? Ok.



But if you get up and just put something there to hold your seat, I'm moving that without a second thought. Just because you happened to be in the right place at the right time to snag an empty seat doesn't mean you get to keep it all day by putting some random object on it. Pretty much this. You have a friend hold a seat or two while you're up and going to the bathroom, stretch, or getting something to eat/drink? Ok.But if you get up and just put something there to hold your seat, I'm moving that without a second thought. Just because you happened to be in the right place at the right time to snag an empty seat doesn't mean you get to keep it all day by putting some random object on it. " i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler

AiurOG Profile Joined March 2011 United States 76 Posts #15 No, if you have the gall to move someone's things you are the bigger ass. First come first serve, and if you dont leave anything behind you've essentially abandoned the seat.

Charger Profile Blog Joined September 2010 United States 2403 Posts #16 What the hell's the difference between having a person save your seat or some object? They both serve the same purpose to let others know the seat is taken. I think the bigger asshole is the person who moves someone's stuff. It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

Maelstrom.cobhc Profile Joined April 2010 United States 126 Posts #17 I don't think it's fair to save a seat when there are so few to begin with. If you want to go enjoy other parts of the event, you have to be willing to sacrifice something that not everyone gets a chance to have. I don't care what you need. I only do it to please me.

Yoshi Kirishima Profile Blog Joined July 2009 United States 9392 Posts #18 On September 18 2011 06:41 StyLeD wrote:

Add a poll.



Personally, I think the person who moves the item out of the seat is the bigger asshole. Why? The difference between the seat-holder and the item-mover is that the seat-holder put an effort into keeping that seat while the item-mover put 0 effort in reserving a seat at all.



doesn't make sense to me, do you mean "the person who puts an item on the seat" is a bigger asshole?



which would make more sense because you say the item-mover puts 0 effort into reserving a seat (you mean item holder i assume) doesn't make sense to me, do you mean "the person who puts an item on the seat" is a bigger asshole?which would make more sense because you say the item-mover puts 0 effort into reserving a seat (you mean item holder i assume) Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."

metbull Profile Joined April 2011 United States 404 Posts #19 Move that jokers crap out of there. Is there a person there "holding" those seats for someone? Doesn't sound like it.

And who's to say that those that left Dr Pepper cans on the seats are even coming back.

To be fair, you got there first... but you left. Then someone else took that seat.....then they left. Only they left their trash behind to potentially "save" their seat.

You didn't purchase the rights to a seat, and neither did they.

You get up and don't have a person there to "save" the seat for you; to bad.

You snooze, you lose. Period.

Dwelf Profile Joined September 2009 Netherlands 346 Posts Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:55:42 #20 I think the guy that tries to save his seat can be seen as the bigger asshole, cause he is in essence claiming something he doesn't own, but that should be available to everyone at the event. But you know it all depends, if it is for a bathroom break then its okayish, if you leave for a longer period then you probably shouldn't.



But since you can't tell that from the seat-saver in place, you should probably just take the seat. And tell the guy that went to the bathroom to next time ask someone to hold the place for him.



The essential point really is:



Why would anyone have the right to even reserve a seat?

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