BFM - NO ACCESS FRANCE Nice - 9 December 2015 SOUNDBITE (French) Francoise Cotta, lawyer representing Karim, the brother of Foued Mohamed-Aggad “As far as Foued is concerned, we all knew that Foued wanted to stay in Syria. We also knew that he told his mother or his brother that he wanted to be kamikaze but in Iraq. So nobody never thought for a second that he would come back to France. It was not at all official nor planned.” ++SOUNDBITES SEPARATED BY BLACK++ 2. SOUNDBITE (French) Francoise Cotta, lawyer representing Karim, the brother of Foued Mohamed-Aggad: “He was in touch with his brother, he was in touch with his mother. He always told them, until the last exchanges they had a few months ago that he wouldn’t come back to France, and that he would go to Iraq. His project to be a kamikaze was for Iraq and not at all for France. So we are all very surprised to know that he’s been able to come back to France.” // BFM - NO ACCESS FRANCE Biesheim- 9 December 2015 5. SOUNDBITE (French) Saiid Mohamed-Aggad, father of Foued Mohamed-Aggad: ++FILMED SO NOT TO IDENTIFY FATHER’S FACE BY SOURCE+ “I didn’t know he came back, I knew in was there (in Syria), he left two years ago. He came back here. I didn’t know. Q: You are surprised? Saiid Mohamed-Aggad: “Of course I am surprised. Of course.” Q: Could you have imagine that? Saiid Mohamed-Aggad: “I would have killed him before.” Q: You said you didn’t understand when he started growing a beard.. Saiid Mohamed-Aggad: “Like everybody. Everybody grows a beard, even (inaudible) has a beard (inaudible). Beard is not a reason, it’s not a proof that the guy is radicalised.” Q: But he never told you anything about that? Saiid Mohamed-Aggad: “No, nothing, nothing. Young people now don’t say anything and I’m working. I work all day long on a construction site.” Q: And you didn’t suspect anything? Saiid Mohamed-Aggad: “Nothing, nothing.” Q: “When did you speak to him for the last time? Saiid Mohamed-Aggad: “Two years ago, when he left.”