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Full MemberActivity: 140Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:17:41 AM #4 He says someone beat him to it. I believe him; we all know he would have proudly worn the AUR Destroyer badge had he done so himself.

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Full MemberActivity: 140Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:32:05 AM #7 I guess in all the Air Drop maadness the dev and his team forgot to educate the Icelandic people on how to secure the blockchain for their own coin, classic. I can't stop giggling.

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LegendaryActivity: 1148Merit: 1010༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:32:57 AM #8 The Bitcoin mafia will never let any altcoin succeed.



Let's brainwash them with naivettes like "Do you want NSA Coin, Fed Coin, fiat/goverment money?" No here, suck on my bitcoin tit and buy it for a grand. The others are not secure. If they were to become secure one day, we will make sure to unsecure it.



There is a reason Satoshi left the scene. He didn't want mining companies to produce bitcoins so laymen buy it like they buy gold. The idea was for a decentralized p2p currency. He saw greedy maggots take over in the name of being anti-establishment.



Maybe Dogecoin does need to win out.

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LegendaryActivity: 854Merit: 1000ADT developer Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:38:26 AM #10 I think we will be seeing more and more of this over the next few weeks as there are a huge amount of coins with near 0 hash power on them

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Sr. MemberActivity: 311Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:45:53 AM #12 You know BCX, I like ideas behind AUR and trust Balduro, but if you really managed to do it I will be impressed. NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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Full MemberActivity: 126Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:48:27 AM #13 Well its weird. MintPal Aur price is actually going up.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 311Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:01:46 AM #17 Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on March 29, 2014, 03:47:54 AM This wasn't me, this was a plain old 51% attack



I am deploying a Time Warp attack that will kick in on what ever chain I am on somewhere around block 5600.



I got scooped and that is funny as hell!!!





~BCX~

Would you briefly explain how time wrap attack affect AUR?

5600? 14 blocks left, will see Would you briefly explain how time wrap attack affect AUR?5600? 14 blocks left, will see NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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Quote AuroraCoin Information (AUR)

Currency Name: AuroraCoin

Currency Code: AUR

Algorithm: Scrypt

Difficulty: 142.31149641

Network Hashrate: 32.4Gbps

USD Value: $2.84308878 per coin (Estimated)

they seem to be on the same chain?



And, as far I remeber there was a peak of about 50Ghs at the beginning of march...



Cryptsy says:they seem to be on the same chain?And, as far I remeber there was a peak of about 50Ghs at the beginning of march... NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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LegendaryActivity: 2100Merit: 1167MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:24:52 AM #22 hmm so how much hash did this person just dump on this coin ?



what was the hash before the jump to 32GH? .... so this attack had to be over 16GH min... or could have been way more? Who has that much scrypt hash already? it essential means most scrypt coins are totally vulnerable really. That is rather scary. Only doge and ltc and perhaps a few others are safe.



If this coin had been POW+POS would that have stopped this attack?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829282 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098315.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105851.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110041.0 MY RED TRUST WAS LEFT BY UNTRUSTWORTHY SCUM BAGS CHECK

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Sr. MemberActivity: 420Merit: 263let's make a deal. Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:29:26 AM #23 Quote from: cryptohunter on March 29, 2014, 04:24:52 AM what was the hash before the jump to 32GH? .... so this attack had to be over 16GH min... or could have been way more? Who has that much scrypt hash already? it essential means most scrypt coins are totally vulnerable really. That is rather scary. Only doge and ltc and perhaps a few others are safe.

just before block 5400







and fuck no, doge is not safe right now:



http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/hashrate-doge.html just before block 5400and fuck no, doge is not safe right now: DC2ngEGbd1ZUKyj8aSzrP1W5TXs5WmPuiR wow need noms

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Sr. MemberActivity: 311Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:31:39 AM #25 Quote from: iGotSpots on March 29, 2014, 04:20:04 AM I see at least 3 chains. I didn't look very hard either. There's more people with enough hash power to cover 30 ghs than you're making it sound like though



May I ask what tools (or commands in console) are using to determine number of chains?

Are you trying to connect with different nodes?

Or, where I should start learning on this subject?

May I ask what tools (or commands in console) are using to determine number of chains?Are you trying to connect with different nodes?Or, where I should start learning on this subject? NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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Sr. MemberActivity: 338Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:32:34 AM #26 lol im mining AUR on multipool as it's the most profitable. LOLZ Tip me BTC: 1MQ3JmX3xsnQqwEu7MB75GwxMtzKxJm4ha

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Full MemberActivity: 200Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:37:22 AM #28 Can someone please explain to me what's the purpose of forking a coin? I am a newbie, just asking...

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Sr. MemberActivity: 311Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:40:19 AM #29 Quote from: botolo86 on March 29, 2014, 04:37:22 AM Can someone please explain to me what's the purpose of forking a coin? I am a newbie, just asking...



to prove that coin is not secured by enough hashpower

and maybe to convince people who will lose their money to stay with well backed coins - BTC, LTC DOGE

but if this attacks escalate to large scale - we maybe witnessing kind of 1st September 1939 tonight to prove that coin is not secured by enough hashpowerand maybe to convince people who will lose their money to stay with well backed coins - BTC, LTC DOGEbut if this attacks escalate to large scale - we maybe witnessing kind of 1st September 1939 tonight NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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Full MemberActivity: 200Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:41:59 AM #30 Quote from: jnada on March 29, 2014, 04:40:19 AM to prove that coin is not secured by enough hashpower

and maybe to convince people who will lose their money to stay with well backed coins - BTC, LTC DOGE



Thanks, so it's just a way of killing a competing coin, not to gain financial benefits from this. Can the guy who just did the fork do the same right now with other weak coins? Thanks, so it's just a way of killing a competing coin, not to gain financial benefits from this. Can the guy who just did the fork do the same right now with other weak coins?

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Sr. MemberActivity: 338Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:43:04 AM #31 I always find it funny when people come on here and say the only real coins are BTC,LTC, and the shit coin I have money in. Tip me BTC: 1MQ3JmX3xsnQqwEu7MB75GwxMtzKxJm4ha

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Sr. MemberActivity: 311Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:49:27 AM #33 Quote from: botolo86 on March 29, 2014, 04:41:59 AM

Thanks, so it's just a way of killing a competing coin, not to gain financial benefits from this. Can the guy who just did the fork do the same right now with other weak coins?

I think expert in this subject is BCX, but as far I know it's basic purpose - to kill competitors.

Of course - all this coins with hashpower about few Ghash may be forked just for fun.

Some people say only one coin per algo will survive Coin Wars time. I think expert in this subject is BCX, but as far I know it's basic purpose - to kill competitors.Of course - all this coins with hashpower about few Ghash may be forked just for fun.Some people say only one coin per algo will survive Coin Wars time. NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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MemberActivity: 70Merit: 10 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:49:30 AM #34 Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on March 29, 2014, 03:10:37 AM Game Over.





I highly advise all exchanges to suspend trading.



There are now multiple forks.



I would also dump while the exchanges are still open if I were you guys.





~BCX~



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If true it's fairly obvious you had something to do with it and only will not admit because of the legal ramifications. So what of people who invested in it, had real money inside still you must be so proud & no i wasn't one of them as i don't like most these country coins but it doesn't mean you screw people over for fun because you don't like something.

If true it's fairly obvious you had something to do with it and only will not admit because of the legal ramifications. So what of people who invested in it, had real money inside still you must be so proud & no i wasn't one of them as i don't like most these country coins but it doesn't mean you screw people over for fun because you don't like something.

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0.00544137 2253.76418774 12.26356484





buy order on cryptsy apparently people dont give a shit lols





My account was hacked , i have recovered it but the person promoted straight disgusting trash lust ico.. i do not and would never support that

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LegendaryActivity: 2100Merit: 1167MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:53:23 AM #36 Quote from: iGotSpots on March 29, 2014, 04:30:55 AM Quote from: cryptohunter on March 29, 2014, 04:24:52 AM hmm so how much hash did this person just dump on this coin ?



what was the hash before the jump to 32GH? .... so this attack had to be over 16GH min... or could have been way more? Who has that much scrypt hash already? it essential means most scrypt coins are totally vulnerable really. That is rather scary. Only doge and ltc and perhaps a few others are safe.



If this coin had been POW+POS would that have stopped this attack?



More than the total. Narrowing it down will be hard though unless you guys track it down which will be hard



You're all underestimating how many people have farms large enough to do it. Lots of money has been made by a lot of people

More than the total. Narrowing it down will be hard though unless you guys track it down which will be hardYou're all underestimating how many people have farms large enough to do it. Lots of money has been made by a lot of people

so 1.2 GH to over 32GH? are we saying then someone has 30GH of scrypt available to them? i can not bare to believe there are many people with that much hash. It must be an alliance of some kind. A single farm of 30GH is kind of HUGE. Must be a GIANT botnet or collaboration. Maybe knc testing out the new super titans? everyone just got upgraded from 250MH to 1GH each perhaps. so 1.2 GH to over 32GH? are we saying then someone has 30GH of scrypt available to them? i can not bare to believe there are many people with that much hash. It must be an alliance of some kind. A single farm of 30GH is kind of HUGE. Must be a GIANT botnet or collaboration. Maybe knc testing out the new super titans? everyone just got upgraded from 250MH to 1GH each perhaps.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829282 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098315.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105851.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110041.0 MY RED TRUST WAS LEFT BY UNTRUSTWORTHY SCUM BAGS CHECK

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MemberActivity: 92Merit: 10 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:56:03 AM #38 ok BCX... now go attack other coins like Aphroditecoin and SiliconValleyCoin. Both are pre-mined and build pretty much the same as AUR.. Go scare as many investors as you can while you gain in the long run..





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Sr. MemberActivity: 311Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:56:33 AM #39 Quote from: cryptohunter on March 29, 2014, 04:53:23 AM

so 1.2 GH to over 32GH? are we saying then someone has 30GH of scrypt available to them? i can not bare to believe there are many people with that much hash. It must be an alliance of some kind. A single farm of 30GH is kind of HUGE. Must be a GIANT botnet or collaboration. Maybe knc testing out the new super titans? everyone just got upgraded from 250MH to 1GH each perhaps.

Yes, if this atack is credible that''s the question: where from this power come Yes, if this atack is credible that''s the question: where from this power come NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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Full MemberActivity: 135Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 05:04:12 AM #43 There was a guy/group, sfire, that used to mine on middlecoin, and now flips between clevermining, wafflepool, and ghash.io. If you look through the middlecoin or wafflepool threads, you can see them talk about him from time to time.



He controls somewhere in the ballpark of 25GHs mining power.

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Full MemberActivity: 170Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 05:05:25 AM #44 i know for a fact 7 ghs of that was multipool.us





and now it has 10ghs a on doge My account was hacked , i have recovered it but the person promoted straight disgusting trash lust ico.. i do not and would never support that

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Pool Hash Rate 26203.91424 KH/s

Current Total Miners 81

Current Block 5667

Current Difficulty 226.27535606





seems like they are moving along quite well... Pool Hash Rate 26203.91424 KH/sCurrent Total Miners 81Current Block 5667Current Difficulty 226.27535606seems like they are moving along quite well...

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Pool Hash Rate 26,654.802 KH/s

Pool Efficiency 99.16%

Current Active Workers 97

Current Difficulty 252.1827228

Est. Next Difficulty 2,732.86514771 (Change in 1 Blocks)

Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network) 55 seconds

Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool) 11 hours 17 minutes 14 seconds

Est. Shares this Round 16,527,047 (done: 17.68%)

Next Network Block 5,672 (Current: 5,671)

Last Block Found 5,533

Time Since Last Block 2 hours 2 minutes 52 seconds Pool Hash Rate 26,654.802 KH/sPool Efficiency 99.16%Current Active Workers 97Current Difficulty 252.1827228Est. Next Difficulty 2,732.86514771 (Change in 1 Blocks)Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network) 55 secondsEst. Avg. Time per Round (Pool) 11 hours 17 minutes 14 secondsEst. Shares this Round 16,527,047 (done: 17.68%)Next Network Block 5,672 (Current: 5,671)Last Block Found 5,533Time Since Last Block 2 hours 2 minutes 52 seconds

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Hero MemberActivity: 532Merit: 500 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 05:33:30 AM #51 Does this really mean game over for them? As in not possible to fix it? Also would digishield have prevented this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980 I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014

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Sr. MemberActivity: 311Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 05:41:32 AM #53 Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 29, 2014, 05:33:30 AM Does this really mean game over for them? As in not possible to fix it? Also would digishield have prevented this?



Luckily not, forked coin maybe always "repaired" if devs are arround - all this attacks are designed to make problems for average user when using coin, in fact it is vasting of hashpower and price manipulating effort. Luckily not, forked coin maybe always "repaired" if devs are arround - all this attacks are designed to make problems for average user when using coin, in fact it is vasting of hashpower and price manipulating effort. NEM NEM NEM launch on 22nd November 2014 ! TAQDPC-BT35MC-YAWTKQ-OFEZOS-CMBKHM-F5Q3L6-YEYL

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NewbieActivity: 3Merit: 0 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 06:25:51 AM #55 I declare this coin dead. Last rites have just been given.



The Pope has spoken.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 477Merit: 500 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 06:41:48 AM #57 This was not an attack. Coin is fine.



Actually, KGW just did what it is designed to do; it adjusted the difficulty according to last 12 hours.. and it did a major drop, just as it had to after so long blocks before block 5400. Diff dropped from 1000 down to 3.. and then crawled back to 400. No single entity would keep it up with this.



Some miners got a lot of easy Auroras.. Sync: ShiSKnx4W6zrp69YEFQyWk5TkpnfKLA8wx

Bitcoin: 17gNvfoD2FDqTfESUxNEmTukGbGVAiJhXp

Litecoin: LhbDew4s9wbV8xeNkrdFcLK5u78APSGLrR

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Cryptsy was updated in time. There is nothing to worry about Sorry about that....



I have fixed my block crawler and it is syncing to the correct chain. My wallets are kept neutral from the exchange wallets on purpose and I failed to update in time. I am currently out of town and failed to update before I left. It should be fully synced in a few minutesCryptsy was updated in time. There is nothing to worry aboutSorry about that....

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 06:54:56 AM #60 I know that multipool started to mine AUR which would account for at least 15gh. If another major pool did the same that would explain the increase in hash rate.



Transactions are being confirmed too. I don't see the attack? I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Could it be that your precious BCX is spreading his shit again?

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Cryptsy was updated in time. There is nothing to worry about Sorry about that....





I have fixed my block crawler and it is syncing to the correct chain. My wallets are kept neutral from the exchange wallets on purpose and I failed to update in time. I am currently out of town and failed to update before I left. It should be fully synced in a few minutesCryptsy was updated in time. There is nothing to worry aboutSorry about that....

Well... Quite interesting what BCX will reply Well... Quite interesting what BCX will reply

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Cryptsy was updated in time. There is nothing to worry about Sorry about that....





I have fixed my block crawler and it is syncing to the correct chain. My wallets are kept neutral from the exchange wallets on purpose and I failed to update in time. I am currently out of town and failed to update before I left. It should be fully synced in a few minutesCryptsy was updated in time. There is nothing to worry aboutSorry about that....

Well... Quite interesting what BCX will reply

Well... Quite interesting what BCX will reply

Also keep in mind the difficulty fluctuates up and down quickly and the hashrate reported on the info page of cryptsy is not updated more than once to a few times per hour in some cases Also keep in mind the difficulty fluctuates up and down quickly and the hashrate reported on the info page of cryptsy is not updated more than once to a few times per hour in some cases

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NewbieActivity: 29Merit: 0 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 07:15:41 AM #67 I don't understand the vitriol and shadenfreuden going on over this.



Auroracoin had the potential to really help the Icelandic economy, and is a public shop window for the potential crypto currency as a whole. This undermines the prospects for every cryptocurrency.

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Auroracoin had the potential to really help the Icelandic economy, and is a public shop window for the potential crypto currency as a whole. This undermines the prospects for every cryptocurrency.



yeah.. but some people just want to have "fun" and they will undermine every good effort that's done and that can bring something new for the average person..



this is not the end of Auroracoin, even if it forked, it can be repaired, people just need to calm down and wait for the developers and the owner, to look into it..

yeah.. but some people just want to have "fun" and they will undermine every good effort that's done and that can bring something new for the average person..this is not the end of Auroracoin, even if it forked, it can be repaired, people just need to calm down and wait for the developers and the owner, to look into it..

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Sr. MemberActivity: 448Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 08:29:46 AM #70 @BCX Why are you so interested in Auroracoin's failure? It seems to have a better use case and distribution as compared to BTC. Shouldn't as early crypto enthusiast, you should work with Auroracoin team and help them in solving these security and other issues?

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Sr. MemberActivity: 341Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 08:51:14 AM #74 oh man, this takes me back to the days when bcx was threatening to 51 litecoin. good times. Tym's Get Rich Slow scheme: plse send .00001 to

btc: 1DKRaNUnMQkeby6Dk1d8e6fRczSrTEhd8p ltc: LV4Udu7x9aLs28MoMCzsvVGKJbSmrHESnt

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Full MemberActivity: 140Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 08:59:17 AM #75 Quote from: andy10000 on March 29, 2014, 07:15:41 AM I don't understand the vitriol and shadenfreuden going on over this.



Auroracoin had the potential to really help the Icelandic economy, and is a public shop window for the potential crypto currency as a whole. This undermines the prospects for every cryptocurrency.



OK, I mean no disrespect for the Icelandic people, but I'm fucking sick and tired of hearing this shit regurgitated over and over from the AUR fanbois. Neither I nor many other users here are from Iceland; and this may be shocking to you, but we don't really give a flying fuck about the Icelandic economy. If the Icelandic people don't give a fuck about their own economy enough to correct it themselves, then that's their fucking problem.



Cryptocurrencies are designed by nature to be universal. If they really want they can fight their government to use any of the other of the great cryptocurrencies disposable to them such as BTC, LTC, DOGE and so on. But hey, guess what, they fucking don't. Why? Perhaps they don't have the fucking nerve to stand up for themselves. We'll fine by me. No skin off my back.



It could be argued that the dev created this to scam BTC into his own pockets, it could also be argued he created this to try to get the rest of the world to financially support Iceland (as if any sane person would willingly give money to some poor saps in another country for free, hilarious); God knows there evidence pointing to both, but regardless of that national cryptocurrencies aren't fucking needed.



Let me repeat that for the reading impared, national cryptocurrencies are not fucking needed. OK, I mean no disrespect for the Icelandic people, but I'm fucking sick and tired of hearing this shit regurgitated over and over from the AUR fanbois. Neither I nor many other users here are from Iceland; and this may be shocking to you, but we don't really give a flying fuck about the Icelandic economy. If the Icelandic people don't give a fuck about their own economy enough to correct it themselves, then that's their fucking problem.Cryptocurrencies are designed by nature to be universal. If they really want they can fight their government to use any of the other of the great cryptocurrencies disposable to them such as BTC, LTC, DOGE and so on. But hey, guess what, they fucking don't. Why? Perhaps they don't have the fucking nerve to stand up for themselves. We'll fine by me. No skin off my back.It could be argued that the dev created this to scam BTC into his own pockets, it could also be argued he created this to try to get the rest of the world to financially support Iceland (as if any sane person would willingly give money to some poor saps in another country for free, hilarious); God knows there evidence pointing to both, but regardless of that national cryptocurrencies aren't fucking needed.Let me repeat that for the reading impared, national cryptocurrencies are not fucking needed.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 448Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 09:09:41 AM #76 Quote from: ZeroBarrier on March 29, 2014, 08:59:17 AM Cryptocurrencies are designed by nature to be universal. If they really want they can fight their government to use any of the other of the great cryptocurrencies disposable to them such as BTC, LTC, DOGE and so on.



Yeah, let's distribute 50% of these to them and they may. I am surprised by the negativity here for Auroracoin. BTC, LTC, DOGE are acceptable because they are already in circulation (and you and others here presumably hold them) but AUR is not because? These network attacks, negativity. It really only points to their success until now. Yeah, let's distribute 50% of these to them and they may. I am surprised by the negativity here for Auroracoin. BTC, LTC, DOGE are acceptable because they are already in circulation (and you and others here presumably hold them) but AUR is not because? These network attacks, negativity. It really only points to their success until now.

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Yeah, let's distribute 50% of these to them and they may. I am surprised by the negativity here for Auroracoin. BTC, LTC, DOGE are acceptable because they are already in circulation (and you and others here presumably hold them) but AUR is not because? These network attacks, negativity. It really only points to their success until now.

Yeah, let's distribute 50% of these to them and they may. I am surprised by the negativity here for Auroracoin. BTC, LTC, DOGE are acceptable because they are already in circulation (and you and others here presumably hold them) but AUR is not because? These network attacks, negativity. It really only points to their success until now.

Again, why should anyone give them a free meal ticket? They don't even help secure the blockchain of AUR let alone any other; so why give them something for nothing? And for your information, I don't hold any BTC, LTC or DOGE. In fact I currently hold a modicum of Beecoin and nothing else just because I mined some and enjoyed their very fair and discreate launch.



Quote from: _noname_ on March 29, 2014, 09:13:05 AM And I am not asking anyone here to believe in Auroracoin. But I do want to get your attention towards the parallels when people used to mock BTC. Long time members here were underdogs then and AUR is a new entrant now. I want to see Auroracoin to be hugely successful (even more than BTC, however stupid it sounds now) just so any new crypto in the future don't get treatment like this.



You want a coin that was given away for free to people who don't help cryptocurrencies at all by even helping secure a blockchain to be successful; you either holding a bag or just completely certifiable.



Again, why should anyone give them a free meal ticket? They don't even help secure the blockchain of AUR let alone any other; so why give them something for nothing? And for your information, I don't hold any BTC, LTC or DOGE. In fact I currently hold a modicum of Beecoin and nothing else just because I mined some and enjoyed their very fair and discreate launch.You want a coin that was given away for free to people who don't help cryptocurrencies at all by even helping secure a blockchain to be successful; you either holding a bag or just completely certifiable.

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Quote Again, why should anyone give them a free meal ticket?

What free meal ticket? No one is asking for associating any value to Auroracoin. So no free meal is being given to them but a cryptocurrency. Value associated is by other people. Why should anyone have problem with that?



Quote You want a coin that was given away for free to people who don't help cryptocurrencies at all by even helping secure a blockchain to be successful

So if the population of Iceland had mined these coins on their laptop and had gotten 31.8 coins it had been okay? You are trapped into mining and one way of doing something. You are no different than people holding fiat. So, don't go about preaching BTC, LTC, DOGE. @ZerobarrierWhat free meal ticket? No one is asking for associating any value to Auroracoin. So no free meal is being given to them but a cryptocurrency. Value associated is by other people. Why should anyone have problem with that?So if the population of Iceland had mined these coins on their laptop and had gotten 31.8 coins it had been okay? You are trapped into mining and one way of doing something. You are no different than people holding fiat. So, don't go about preaching BTC, LTC, DOGE.

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Really now? Then why the big push to get AUR onto exchanges and getting it's marketcap (falsely) to $300,000,000? And how about all the inital talk from AUR supporters claiming $1000+ would be oh so helpful to these poor souls in Iceland?



Quote So if the population of Iceland had mined these coins on their laptop and had gotten 31.8 coins it had been okay? You are trapped into mining and one way of doing something. You are no different than people holding fiat. So, don't go about preaching BTC, LTC, DOGE.



How else do you suppose they acquire coins from a POW cryptocurrency? Oh... Right... Handed to them for free... Gotcha... The why the fuck even make it POW?



Edit: tell you what, if the dev would have made it POS only and held an IPO only for the population of Iceland, I would have considered it way less of a bullshit scam and shenanigans than I do; but no, it just had to be POW, with no capital or even hash coming from Iceland itself. What a joke. Really now? Then why the big push to get AUR onto exchanges and getting it's marketcap (falsely) to $300,000,000? And how about all the inital talk from AUR supporters claiming $1000+ would be oh so helpful to these poor souls in Iceland?How else do you suppose they acquire coins from a POW cryptocurrency? Oh... Right... Handed to them for free... Gotcha... The why the fuck even make it POW?Edit: tell you what, if the dev would have made it POS only and held an IPO only for the population of Iceland, I would have considered it way less of a bullshit scam and shenanigans than I do; but no, it just had to be POW, with no capital or even hash coming from Iceland itself. What a joke.

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Your point about making it POS has merit. Playing devil's advocate here and not calling it scam. I presume, the developer wanted people from rest of the world to get involved as well. Isn't one of the premise is to free the currency flow. Also, I read on the Auroracoin forums where he (Baldur) very strongly supported flow of AUR with other currencies.



Looking at the evidence. The coins are being distributed and original team is trying to solve problems as they come across it. Also, they seem to be working on it full time; unlike other alts.



Don't know about the reason for the push to list on exchanges. But the premines were not sold even at that peak.



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Auroracoin had the potential to really help the Icelandic economy, and is a public shop window for the potential crypto currency as a whole. This undermines the prospects for every cryptocurrency.



OK, I mean no disrespect for the Icelandic people, but I'm fucking sick and tired of hearing this shit regurgitated over and over from the AUR fanbois. Neither I nor many other users here are from Iceland; and this may be shocking to you, but we don't really give a flying fuck about the Icelandic economy. If the Icelandic people don't give a fuck about their own economy enough to correct it themselves, then that's their fucking problem.



Cryptocurrencies are designed by nature to be universal. If they really want they can fight their government to use any of the other of the great cryptocurrencies disposable to them such as BTC, LTC, DOGE and so on. But hey, guess what, they fucking don't. Why? Perhaps they don't have the fucking nerve to stand up for themselves. We'll fine by me. No skin off my back.



It could be argued that the dev created this to scam BTC into his own pockets, it could also be argued he created this to try to get the rest of the world to financially support Iceland (as if any sane person would willingly give money to some poor saps in another country for free, hilarious); God knows there evidence pointing to both, but regardless of that national cryptocurrencies aren't fucking needed.



Let me repeat that for the reading impared, national cryptocurrencies are not fucking needed.

OK, I mean no disrespect for the Icelandic people, but I'm fucking sick and tired of hearing this shit regurgitated over and over from the AUR fanbois. Neither I nor many other users here are from Iceland; and this may be shocking to you, but we don't really give a flying fuck about the Icelandic economy. If the Icelandic people don't give a fuck about their own economy enough to correct it themselves, then that's their fucking problem.Cryptocurrencies are designed by nature to be universal. If they really want they can fight their government to use any of the other of the great cryptocurrencies disposable to them such as BTC, LTC, DOGE and so on. But hey, guess what, they fucking don't. Why? Perhaps they don't have the fucking nerve to stand up for themselves. We'll fine by me. No skin off my back.It could be argued that the dev created this to scam BTC into his own pockets, it could also be argued he created this to try to get the rest of the world to financially support Iceland (as if any sane person would willingly give money to some poor saps in another country for free, hilarious); God knows there evidence pointing to both, but regardless of that national cryptocurrencies aren't fucking needed.Let me repeat that for the reading impared, national cryptocurrencies are not fucking needed.

Please explain how Icelanders are to acquire BTC, LTC, or DOGE. Please explain how Icelanders are to acquire BTC, LTC, or DOGE.

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Isn't Iceland one of the best places in the world to mine?



Geothermal to generate electricity, cold climate to not need to waste electricity on air-conditioning, I thought it was one of the mining Meccas everyone wished they could relocate their mining operations to?



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Isn't Iceland one of the best places in the world to mine?Geothermal to generate electricity, cold climate to not need to waste electricity on air-conditioning, I thought it was one of the mining Meccas everyone wished they could relocate their mining operations to?-MarkM-

Right. They can mine, they cannot buy.

Do we now expect that everyone must be a miner to participate in a meaningful way in the crypto economy? Does ZeroBarrier never buy and sell bitcoin, LTC etc?

Is he such an objectivist hard ass that he feels he must destroy anything that smacks of charity?



The airdrop, which despite weeks if accusations has shown no sign of being a scam, is a terrific way to put a lot of crypto in the hands of a geographically concentrated group of people. It is conceivable that this will lead to people actually using it to **gasp** transact, rather than merely speculate. This isn't about charity, it's about moving cryptocurrency forward.

Right. They can mine, they cannot buy.Do we now expect that everyone must be a miner to participate in a meaningful way in the crypto economy? Does ZeroBarrier never buy and sell bitcoin, LTC etc?Is he such an objectivist hard ass that he feels he must destroy anything that smacks of charity?The airdrop, which despite weeks if accusations has shown no sign of being a scam, is a terrific way to put a lot of crypto in the hands of a geographically concentrated group of people. It is conceivable that this will lead to people actually using it to **gasp** transact, rather than merely speculate. This isn't about charity, it's about moving cryptocurrency forward.

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Mum would be proud now.





This isn't about moving crypto's forward or they would be presenting a solution not being apart of the problem.

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It was destroyed from the start by the idiots or maybe more likely outright scammers who tried to con people into somehow imagining that scrypt is a viable method of securing a blockchain.



DOGE already showed how insanely vulnerable scrypt is, by conjuring up almost overnight so much hashpower that they could have totally screwed litecoin. It was lucky for litecoin that DOGE happened to be a "lets be yet another scamcoin" meme instead of being a "lets trash all the scrypt blockchains" meme.



Thus we already know that scrypt coins are just a meme away from being worthless.



Yet scammers keep on churning them out, since obviously they don't give a shit about other people's money except, of course, to steal it or scam people out of it.



Really what DOGE showed is not merely that scrypt is garbage but that CPU/GPU is not a viable way of securing a blockchain.



(Scrypt might actually be salvage-able, thanks to upcoming ASICs for scrypt, for one family of merged blockchains, all sharing the same massive hashing power, if that merged family controls more than half of the world's scrypt hashing power. Will that family be litecoin and friends or DOGE and friends, or will ltiecoin and DOGE adapt themselves to be merged mined together as one family so that litecoin and DOGE and friends could all be secured with the majority of the world's scrypt hashing power?)



The only reason bitcoin got away with using CPU then GPU then FPGA to secure its blockchain was that potential attackers were caught unprepared, they did not anticipate so much wealth being so easy to steal using mere raw brute computer-power.



Now they know well that blackchains can be attacked and how to attack them, and are loaded up with GPUs and CPUs and FPGAs.



Thus just a stupid meme can conjure up shitloads of raw brute computing power almost overnight.



Thus any serious attempt to secure a blockchain by proof of work needs to build ASICs before risking people's money on such a blockchain.



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It was destroyed from the start by the idiots or maybe more likely outright scammers who tried to con people into somehow imagining that scrypt is a viable method of securing a blockchain.DOGE already showed how insanely vulnerable scrypt is, by conjuring up almost overnight so much hashpower that they could have totally screwed litecoin. It was lucky for litecoin that DOGE happened to be a "lets be yet another scamcoin" meme instead of being a "lets trash all the scrypt blockchains" meme.Thus we already know that scrypt coins are just a meme away from being worthless.Yet scammers keep on churning them out, since obviously they don't give a shit about other people's money except, of course, to steal it or scam people out of it.Really what DOGE showed is not merely that scrypt is garbage but that CPU/GPU is not a viable way of securing a blockchain.(Scrypt might actually be salvage-able, thanks to upcoming ASICs for scrypt, for one family of merged blockchains, all sharing the same massive hashing power, if that merged family controls more than half of the world's scrypt hashing power. Will that family be litecoin and friends or DOGE and friends, or will ltiecoin and DOGE adapt themselves to be merged mined together as one family so that litecoin and DOGE and friends could all be secured with the majority of the world's scrypt hashing power?)The only reason bitcoin got away with using CPU then GPU then FPGA to secure its blockchain was that potential attackers were caught unprepared, they did not anticipate so much wealth being so easy to steal using mere raw brute computer-power.Now they know well that blackchains can be attacked and how to attack them, and are loaded up with GPUs and CPUs and FPGAs.Thus just a stupid meme can conjure up shitloads of raw brute computing power almost overnight.Thus any serious attempt to secure a blockchain by proof of work needs to build ASICs before risking people's money on such a blockchain.-MarkM-

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You can always rent shit ton of rigs on leaserig.net or betarigs.com and make 51% attack more succesfull.

Am I right?

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So you think mercenary scrypt miners willing to screw any scrypt blockchain to grab a few coins on some new scam out-hash the actual dedicated scrypt miners who mine to protect (secure) their holdings of scrypt based coins?



Do you also think that mercenary SHA256 miners who have no SHA256 coin wealth to secure out-number SHA256 hashes that exist for the purpose of securing the SHA256 coin holdings they own?



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So you think mercenary scrypt miners willing to screw any scrypt blockchain to grab a few coins on some new scam out-hash the actual dedicated scrypt miners who mine to protect (secure) their holdings of scrypt based coins?Do you also think that mercenary SHA256 miners who have no SHA256 coin wealth to secure out-number SHA256 hashes that exist for the purpose of securing the SHA256 coin holdings they own?-MarkM-

Yes, the majority of miners have turned mercenary (sometimes unbeknown to them) and all they want is ROI .... they decided that AUR wasn't going to give them the security they want so they voted against it, through that process they allowed all you greedy bitcoin holders an opportunity to 51% attack AUR's BC.



as for your second sentence - care to rephrase? Yes, the majority of miners have turned mercenary (sometimes unbeknown to them) and all they want is ROI .... they decided that AUR wasn't going to give them the security they want so they voted against it, through that process they allowed all you greedy bitcoin holders an opportunity to 51% attack AUR's BC.as for your second sentence - care to rephrase?

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so NXT is more secureNXT to the Moon

Well, maybe it will...but we'll have to wait a long time.



That's actually better than a quick bubble. There's enough time to poke around with the nuts-and-bolts and see how it works.

Well, maybe it will...but we'll have to wait a long time.That's actually better than a quick bubble. There's enough time to poke around with the nuts-and-bolts and see how it works.

Standalone POS coins have many advantages over NXT - plus they far less resemble a bullshit hyip pyramid scheme (which after the initial POS influence on other developers NXT had - that is all it deserves ever be) Standalone POS coins have many advantages over NXT - plus they far less resemble a bullshit hyip pyramid scheme (which after the initial POS influence on other developers NXT had - that is all it deserves ever be)

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Sr. MemberActivity: 448Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 01:04:48 PM #100 Nothing has happened. This fork was planned beforehand. BCX you have lost credibility by spreading FUD. You probably gained through this by buying low?



On the matter of miners voting against it. If all you (miner) care about is people should buy from you because in theory you will always be the first ones to get the coin. Then, to be truthful, game is over for you. These are early days for cryptos. Everyone involved has some technical background. You will never see any one group holding power like this. And if they do, they will be removed from the equation.

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On the matter of miners voting against it. If all you (miner) care about is people should buy from you because in theory you will always be the first ones to get the coin. Then, to be truthful, game is over for you. These are early days for cryptos. Everyone involved has some technical background. You will never see any one group holding power like this. And if they do, they will be removed from the equation.



I wish 'one group holding power' was 'removed from the equation' ....... LOL MONEY TALKS I wish 'one group holding power' was 'removed from the equation' ....... LOL MONEY TALKS

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No idea what you are trying to say. Because I don't see anyone here putting money on the line but spreading misinformation. And ofcouse, if others want to attack the Auroracoin that's their choice. It's Auroracoin's fault to not be prepared for it. But saying that miners have voted against the coin collectively because they didn't got a large share is wrong as well.



Originally mining was intended to democratize (randomize?) the distribution. Now, it all about someone holding the best hardware, undermining the one of the original goals of decentralizing decision taking. How's miners creating a cartel like this is not against decentralization? (And I am not saying they shouldn't try as this or other alt grow more successful attacks will only increase)

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Fortunately they seldom put enough hash power into any one chain to make it look convincing, so most of the scrypt chains are clear at a glance obvious garbage/scams, with even litecoin and DOGE looking very borderline too after seeing how their hashing power changed since DOGE came along and showed us how useless the scrypt miners are as a way of securing a blockchain.



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I suppose he'd better hope his coins are on the "right" chain



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Egvl9VqgE

Forked or not, this guy just sold a car for Auroracoin and it's national news.I suppose he'd better hope his coins are on the "right" chain

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NewbieActivity: 30Merit: 0 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 02:08:23 PM #112 I dont get whats cool about it. Hacking is a skill, but when used against the general public and normal, good people lose their investments for some sociopathic kid's little thrill, its not cool or impressive. There are viable things to hack and people that deserve to be hacked. This hack is a pussy move and a crime against innocent people. There is really simply nothing cool about it.

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These shitcoins like auroracoins are scam anyway. Better they die sooner than later, less damage is done and everybody is happy (except the scammers themselves and the noobs). These shitcoins like auroracoins are scam anyway. Better they die sooner than later, less damage is done and everybody is happy (except the scammers themselves and the noobs).

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Sr. MemberActivity: 448Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 02:09:16 PM #115 Quote from: bcxollo on March 29, 2014, 02:04:45 PM You juvenile pricks think this is funny? Every time you harm an alt coin you drive more people away from crypto. This is just another nail in the bitcoiner coffin ... RIP



Nothing has happened. This is pure Anon kind of threats. Right response was (and from now on is) to not pay attention to these people. Nothing has happened. This is pure Anon kind of threats. Right response was (and from now on is) to not pay attention to these people.

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This fork was planned since weeks. This is pure manipulation and misinformation. Stop paying attention.

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It can only go up from here amirite?

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agreed

agreed

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anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.



Pathetic excuses for human beings.



--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant. +1anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.Pathetic excuses for human beings.--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

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Didn't bet my house on it, but having to up my orders cos not getting them filled.



(I hope they sell me the right 'fork' )



Whatever the technical merits of this "shitcoin" it seems that, amazingly, most Icelanders don't spend 15 hours a day oggling threads on bitcointalk. There's already a few businesses starting to spring up who are accepting it.



Also, each day there is more press - especially out in the country.



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Maybe it'll crash again once all this FUD starts filtering through...or maybe it won't. All the same, must get in if you like the principle.

I just bought some.Didn't bet my house on it, but having to up my orders cos not getting them filled.(I hope they sell me the right 'fork'Whatever the technical merits of this "shitcoin"it seems that, amazingly, most Icelanders don't spend 15 hours a day oggling threads on bitcointalk. There's already a few businesses starting to spring up who are accepting it. http://www.aurcoin.is/ Also, each day there is more press - especially out in the country. http://eyjan.pressan.is/frettir/2014/03/27/markadur-hefur-myndast-fyrir-auroracoin-haegt-ad-kaupa-notada-bila-og-kronur/ Translation:Maybe it'll crash again once all this FUD starts filtering through...or maybe it won't. All the same, must get in if you like the principle.

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agreed

agreed

+1



anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.



Pathetic excuses for human beings.



--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

+1anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.Pathetic excuses for human beings.--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.



It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.



So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.



It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.



-MarkM-

That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.-MarkM-

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NewbieActivity: 56Merit: 0 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 02:47:04 PM #127 Quote from: markm on March 29, 2014, 02:32:18 PM Quote from: CryptoKiller on March 29, 2014, 02:21:46 PM Quote from: FilipZ on March 29, 2014, 02:08:43 PM Quote from: bcxollo on March 29, 2014, 02:04:45 PM You juvenile pricks think this is funny? Every time you harm an alt coin you drive more people away from crypto. This is just another nail in the bitcoiner coffin ... RIP



agreed

agreed

+1



anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.



Pathetic excuses for human beings.



--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

+1anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.Pathetic excuses for human beings.--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.



It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.



So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.



It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.



-MarkM-



That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.-MarkM-



What you describe is the free market at work. Not doge's fault it had some killer advertising and got alot of new guys involved in crypto. While I do agree with you about fracturing the community and the hashrate making many coins insecure thats a far cry from what bcx and others like him are trying to do which is to flat out take money from investors and miners alike.



Without a market like this innovation will not come. Sure the scene looks shitty now but over time more and more people will get into crypto and some of those will have the skills and motivation to help improve it...All shit like this does is ensure those people never enter the scene. Not only hurting alts but bitcoin at the same time. What you describe is the free market at work. Not doge's fault it had some killer advertising and got alot of new guys involved in crypto. While I do agree with you about fracturing the community and the hashrate making many coins insecure thats a far cry from what bcx and others like him are trying to do which is to flat out take money from investors and miners alike.Without a market like this innovation will not come. Sure the scene looks shitty now but over time more and more people will get into crypto and some of those will have the skills and motivation to help improve it...All shit like this does is ensure those people never enter the scene. Not only hurting alts but bitcoin at the same time.

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LegendaryActivity: 2604Merit: 1038 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 02:50:20 PM #128 Quote from: CryptoKiller on March 29, 2014, 02:47:04 PM Quote from: markm on March 29, 2014, 02:32:18 PM Quote from: CryptoKiller on March 29, 2014, 02:21:46 PM Quote from: FilipZ on March 29, 2014, 02:08:43 PM Quote from: bcxollo on March 29, 2014, 02:04:45 PM You juvenile pricks think this is funny? Every time you harm an alt coin you drive more people away from crypto. This is just another nail in the bitcoiner coffin ... RIP



agreed

agreed

+1



anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.



Pathetic excuses for human beings.



--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

+1anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.Pathetic excuses for human beings.--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.



It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.



So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.



It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.



-MarkM-



That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.-MarkM-



What you describe is the free market at work. Not doge's fault it had some killer advertising and got alot of new guys involved in crypto. While I do agree with you about fracturing the community and the hashrate making many coins insecure thats a far cry from what bcx and others like him are trying to do which is to flat out take money from investors and miners alike.



Without a market like this innovation will not come. Sure the scene looks shitty now but over time more and more people will get into crypto and some of those will have the skills and motivation to help improve it...All shit like this does is ensure those people never enter the scene.

What you describe is the free market at work. Not doge's fault it had some killer advertising and got alot of new guys involved in crypto. While I do agree with you about fracturing the community and the hashrate making many coins insecure thats a far cry from what bcx and others like him are trying to do which is to flat out take money from investors and miners alike.Without a market like this innovation will not come. Sure the scene looks shitty now but over time more and more people will get into crypto and some of those will have the skills and motivation to help improve it...All shit like this does is ensure those people never enter the scene.

Well if that is all it can do, rather than serving to help ensure they don't enter with garbage scams, maybe it is good to keep them out of the scene.



If they imagine that churning out more and more scams/ponzis is "innovation" we are probably better off without them.



New innovative scams, oh wow how awesome, not.



DOGE served to show that if general purpose hardware can attack a coin that coin is not secure.



You need to develop special purpose hardware, at minimum. Some claim even that will not work but failing to do it is even more certain not to work.



-MarkM-

Well if that is all it can do, rather than serving to help ensure they don't enter with garbage scams, maybe it is good to keep them out of the scene.If they imagine that churning out more and more scams/ponzis is "innovation" we are probably better off without them.New innovative scams, oh wow how awesome, not.DOGE served to show that if general purpose hardware can attack a coin that coin is not secure.You need to develop special purpose hardware, at minimum. Some claim even that will not work but failing to do it is even more certain not to work.-MarkM-

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NewbieActivity: 56Merit: 0 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:00:38 PM #129 Quote from: markm on March 29, 2014, 02:50:20 PM Quote from: CryptoKiller on March 29, 2014, 02:47:04 PM Quote from: markm on March 29, 2014, 02:32:18 PM Quote from: CryptoKiller on March 29, 2014, 02:21:46 PM Quote from: FilipZ on March 29, 2014, 02:08:43 PM Quote from: bcxollo on March 29, 2014, 02:04:45 PM You juvenile pricks think this is funny? Every time you harm an alt coin you drive more people away from crypto. This is just another nail in the bitcoiner coffin ... RIP



agreed

agreed

+1



anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.



Pathetic excuses for human beings.



--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

+1anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.Pathetic excuses for human beings.--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.



It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.



So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.



It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.



-MarkM-



That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.-MarkM-



What you describe is the free market at work. Not doge's fault it had some killer advertising and got alot of new guys involved in crypto. While I do agree with you about fracturing the community and the hashrate making many coins insecure thats a far cry from what bcx and others like him are trying to do which is to flat out take money from investors and miners alike.



Without a market like this innovation will not come. Sure the scene looks shitty now but over time more and more people will get into crypto and some of those will have the skills and motivation to help improve it...All shit like this does is ensure those people never enter the scene.

What you describe is the free market at work. Not doge's fault it had some killer advertising and got alot of new guys involved in crypto. While I do agree with you about fracturing the community and the hashrate making many coins insecure thats a far cry from what bcx and others like him are trying to do which is to flat out take money from investors and miners alike.Without a market like this innovation will not come. Sure the scene looks shitty now but over time more and more people will get into crypto and some of those will have the skills and motivation to help improve it...All shit like this does is ensure those people never enter the scene.

Well if that is all it can do, rather than serving to help ensure they don't enter with garbage scams, maybe it is good to keep them out of the scene.



If they imagine that churning out more and more scams/ponzis is "innovation" we are probably better off without them.



New innovative scams, oh wow how awesome, not.



DOGE served to show that if general purpose hardware can attack a coin that coin is not secure.



You need to develop special purpose hardware, at minimum. Some claim even that will not work but failing to do it is even more certain not to work.



-MarkM-



Well if that is all it can do, rather than serving to help ensure they don't enter with garbage scams, maybe it is good to keep them out of the scene.If they imagine that churning out more and more scams/ponzis is "innovation" we are probably better off without them.New innovative scams, oh wow how awesome, not.DOGE served to show that if general purpose hardware can attack a coin that coin is not secure.You need to develop special purpose hardware, at minimum. Some claim even that will not work but failing to do it is even more certain not to work.-MarkM-

You're that jaded that innovation means auroracoin to you? You keep regurgitating the same talking points and talking up theft as if its ever a good thing. bxc and his ilk offer no solutions other than to take money straight out of peoples hands. Nothing stand up about that. You're that jaded that innovation means auroracoin to you? You keep regurgitating the same talking points and talking up theft as if its ever a good thing. bxc and his ilk offer no solutions other than to take money straight out of peoples hands. Nothing stand up about that.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 336Merit: 250 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:13:13 PM #131 Quote from: markm on March 29, 2014, 02:32:18 PM Quote from: CryptoKiller on March 29, 2014, 02:21:46 PM Quote from: FilipZ on March 29, 2014, 02:08:43 PM Quote from: bcxollo on March 29, 2014, 02:04:45 PM You juvenile pricks think this is funny? Every time you harm an alt coin you drive more people away from crypto. This is just another nail in the bitcoiner coffin ... RIP



agreed

agreed

+1



anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.



Pathetic excuses for human beings.



--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

+1anyone that doesnt realise how this hurts the crypto scene as a whole is either retarded or made their money on btc and no longer gives a fuck what happens to anyone else.Pathetic excuses for human beings.--Anyone remember egold? That's what the outsider's will come to think of crypto if faggots like bcx are allowed to run rampant.

That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.



It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.



So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.



It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.



-MarkM-



That is why so many people object to the creation of insanely scammy garbage blockchains whose developers have no intention of securing the chain and not enough hardware and electricity to secure it even if they did pretend to themselves that their pathetic number of hashes could come anywhere close to securing it.It is why so many people object to the deliberate scamming of investors by the creation of scrypt blockchains when scrypt has already been clearly shown to be garbage, a scammer's algorithm for scammers who plan to deliberately jump from chain to chain to chain, their only objective being to scam money from suckers; miners who have no intention to secure anything, just to scam money for themselves even if that means having other scammers keep making new scamcoins for these scam miners to mine.So yeah, it is not cool to create worthless garbage scamcoins that you cannot secure.It is perfectly cool to demonstrate that such scams are scams, because even despite such demonstrations (remember DOGE, which demonstrated that even litecoin was not secure because a stupid meme could conjure up enough hashing power to PWN it, for example) the scam miners keep co-operating with the scam coin-cloners to keep churning out more scams. Thus obviously not enough such demonstrations have been made, or they have not been made forcefully enough and publicly enough for "everyone" to clearly realise that it is not cool to create a blockchain you cannot secure.-MarkM-

And yet you live in a world full of chaos and madness, brutality , psychopats and all that .



And all that stand between you and that world is 6 centimeters of your wooden door.



Your argument is flawed. Just because something is very vunerable does not mean it should not exist. The lack of internet laws and healthy amount of regulation promotes all of this. I wonder how many people would ddos and hack cryptocurrencies if it would be considered a 10+years offense. And yet you live in a world full of chaos and madness, brutality , psychopats and all that .Your argument is flawed. Just because something is very vunerable does not mean it should not exist. The lack of internet laws and healthy amount of regulation promotes all of this. I wonder how many people would ddos and hack cryptocurrencies if it would be considered a 10+years offense.

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And yet you live in a world full of chaos and madness, brutality , psychopats and all that .



And all that stand between you and that world is 6 centimeters of your wooden door.



Your argument is flawed. Just because something is very vunerable does not mean it should not exist. The lack of internet laws and healthy amount of regulation promotes all of this. I wonder how many people would ddos and hack cryptocurrencies if it would be considered a 10+years offense.



haha yep. According to his logic if I'm able to gain access to his house I have free reign to enter his house and steal all his property..Not only that but he would consider it "cool", cos after all how secure can doors be if I can brake the lock?



We must expose the door scam for what it is before more people decide to create more doors! haha yep. According to his logic if I'm able to gain access to his house I have free reign to enter his house and steal all his property..Not only that but he would consider it "cool", cos after all how secure can doors be if I can brake the lock?We must expose the door scam for what it is before more people decide to create more doors!

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I don't think this is about "talking up theft" at all.



It's about pointing out that auroracoin was insecure and that the developers didn't give a toss about it's insecurity and neither did it's community (because they weren't bothering to mine it but were waiting for air-drops instead!). As an aside, since when is money "free"? You either earn it through mining, or earn it through work and use earned money to buy more coins.



If it could be taken down so quickly and easily by some anonymous guy with a botnet, then the Icelandic govt could also have taken it down too. So what's the point of this coin (apart from making the developer rich on false hype)?



If people are serious about cryptos, they'll make them robust against all comers. If they're not serious and are looking for a quick pump and collapse - well at least be honest that you are not serious, and don't whine when it collapses.

I don't think this is about "talking up theft" at all.It's about pointing out that auroracoin was insecure and thatand neither did it's community (because they weren't bothering to mine it but were waiting for air-drops instead!). As an aside, since when is money "free"? You either earn it through mining, or earn it through work and use earned money to buy more coins.If it could be taken down so quickly and easily by some anonymous guy with a botnet, then the Icelandic govt could also have taken it down too. So what's the point of this coin (apart from making the developer rich on false hype)?If people are serious about cryptos, they'll make them robust against all comers. If they're not serious and are looking for a quick pump and collapse - well at least be honest that you are not serious, and don't whine when it collapses.

Don't get me wrong I fully agree with you but the way its being done is completly wrong. If I were to go out and hack someones bank accout exposing a security flaw in the banking system would I be looked at as some sort of hero? Nah..My ass would be locked up in gaol for a long time. The real "heroes" are the guys that see the problem and help fix it without fucking over thousands of people. Don't get me wrong I fully agree with you but the way its being done is completly wrong. If I were to go out and hack someones bank accout exposing a security flaw in the banking system would I be looked at as some sort of hero? Nah..My ass would be locked up in gaol for a long time. The real "heroes" are the guys that see the problem and help fix it without fucking over thousands of people.

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NewbieActivity: 56Merit: 0 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 03:58:18 PM #138



Night guys Was going to reply but it's become a little bit of a circle jerk.Night guys

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LegendaryActivity: 2604Merit: 1038 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:07:54 PM #139 Also bear in mind that what (s)he did to litecoin was simply pretend to plan a 51% attack, in order to rally the miners to defend it.



This coin not only did the miners not rally to defend it but it fell apart all by itself without even waiting for the purported planned attack.



Plus still no one has even bothered to fix the bug, have they?



Obviously it is a total scam, that is why they don't bother even trying to fix it: they don't care if it fails because they never intended it to last beyond their own quick-money cash-out.



How many other 50% pre-mine coins have they already moved on to?



Do they all have the same broken-ness?



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Full MemberActivity: 140Merit: 100 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:10:52 PM #140 Quote from: alyssa85 on March 29, 2014, 03:31:17 PM Quote from: CryptoKiller on March 29, 2014, 03:00:38 PM You're that jaded that innovation means auroracoin to you? You keep regurgitating the same talking points and talking up theft as if its ever a good thing. bxc and his ilk offer no solutions other than to take money straight out of peoples hands. Nothing stand up about that.



I don't think this is about "talking up theft" at all.



It's about pointing out that auroracoin was insecure and that the developers didn't give a toss about it's insecurity and neither did it's community (because they weren't bothering to mine it but were waiting for free air-drops instead!). As an aside, since when is money "free"? You either earn it through mining, or earn it through work and use earned money to buy more coins.



If it could be taken down so quickly and easily by some anonymous guy with a botnet, then the Icelandic govt could also have taken it down too. So what's the point of this coin (apart from making the developer rich on false hype)?



If people are serious about cryptos, they'll make them robust against all comers. If they're not serious and are looking for a quick pump and collapse - well at least be honest that you are not serious, and don't whine when it collapses.

I don't think this is about "talking up theft" at all.It's about pointing out that auroracoin was insecure and thatand neither did it's community (because they weren't bothering to mine it but were waiting for free air-drops instead!). As an aside, since when is money "free"? You either earn it through mining, or earn it through work and use earned money to buy more coins.If it could be taken down so quickly and easily by some anonymous guy with a botnet, then the Icelandic govt could also have taken it down too. So what's the point of this coin (apart from making the developer rich on false hype)?If people are serious about cryptos, they'll make them robust against all comers. If they're not serious and are looking for a quick pump and collapse - well at least be honest that you are not serious, and don't whine when it collapses. fuck off. The guy has a BOTNET, which means he is a criminal that does not respect people's privacy and property rights.

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NewbieActivity: 34Merit: 0 Re: delete March 29, 2014, 04:31:47 PM #144 Quote from: luv2drnkbr on March 29, 2014, 02:44:49 PM Don't worry people, BitcoinEXpress is a troll with moderate hashing power who 51%'s all new altcoins because he's a sad little faggot and likes the attention. Read Litecoin's ANN thread when it first started... you'll find him there 51%ing it and talking about it's death. He just gets off on fear mongering.



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