Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said that President Donald Trump is “almost a gift” to Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria on Sunday.

Zakaria held one segment in his extensive interview with Albright and another former secretary of state, Colin Powell, on the topic of China.

Albright first argued that in the Trump administration, “the decision making process simply does not work.”

“The president goes and does his own thing. Then somebody says, ‘he meant to say…’ And then he disagrees with that,” she said.

Albright then turned to Trump’s relationship with Putin, and his criticisms of the NATO alliance.

“I do think that he does see some kind of kinship with Putin,” she said. “And the Russians are trying very hard to undermine our democracy and to separate us from our allies. I think in many ways Trump is almost a gift to Putin in terms of trying to explain, why should we deal with those Europeans? Or why should we have anything to do with NATO?”

NATO, an alliance between countries in North America and Europe, was created after the Second World War as a check on the Soviet Union. Putin hates it, and Trump’s broadside against U.S. allies at the NATO summit in July likely thrilled the Russian leader.

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