Tool, etc. frontman Maynard James Keenan guests on this Sunday’s (July 07th) episode of ‘Rock & Roll Road Trip With Sammy Hagar‘ on AXS TV. A clip from that episode, which finds Hagar traveling to Keenan‘s Caduceus Cellars winery in Arizona has been shared below. When asked by Hagar about his vocal phrasing in the clip, Keenan responds:

“I remember running cross-country in high school, and everybody has their own breathing rhythms, right? It’s just supposed to be in-out, right? I was actually running to the [footsteps]. So, if you’re going over hills, or down hills, or in chuck-holes, or whatever, my breath would follow those rhythms, which is weird.

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But you know then I would have remix tapes of some of my favorites songs… AC/DC… Odd time signature stuff. There’s some Joni Mitchell that’s crazy time signatures… She’s singing on the up, she’s singing on the down and that was kind of like the running. You’re kind of following some of that… So, just naturally it’s easier for me to write to things that are outside four-four.”