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Goodbye (LGBT forum feedback)



Quote: Originally Posted by Boston You're right, you'd never see posts like those aimed at deirde directed towards gay/bisexual members of this forum. The reason is because a thread inviting morons to spout their moronic opinions about sexuality would never get the green liight. Trans* Questions thread, I (and presumably all the other transgendered members of this forum) can expect to receive particular personal abuse from some of the other members of this forum on any of the threads on this forum. I believe the Trans* Questions thread has merit in that it is attempting to draw questions that "might be stupid or not PC" away from the main forum, so I'm not going to petition for its removal so that I can return to this forum in safety.



I note with dismay that what has apparently been said in the post above about the Trans* Questions thread giving carte blanche to mete out particularly bad treatment to transgender members of this forum has been brought to the attention of a moderator, and nothing (other than an offer to remove Trans* Questions) has been done. I believe the existence of Trans* Questions is just an excuse - nothing more - and hence it would be wrong and terribly counter-productive to remove it.



I'd like to point out that the post above says "you'd never see posts like those ... directed towards gay/bisexual members of this forum". In other words, this forum is intrinsically less safe for transgender members. Speaking for myself, the abuse I've received in recent times is simply too much for me. I'm trying to transition - which is already incredibly difficult - and I need support, not abuse and grief.



I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate those members of boards.ie lgbt who don't want transgender members on this forum.



One of the most interesting posts in the whole recent sorry saga was made on the subject of priviledge (



I believe one of two things needs to happen. I believe that either the charter for the LGBT forum needs to change so as to incorporate some of the recommendations about handling priviledge referenced in



However, there have already been cries of transgender being "sacred cows" on the LGBT forum, so I'm not at all confident that a change to the charter can be agreed. In which case, I believe that there needs to be a seperate forum for transgender. I would utterly hate to see this happen - by and large the LGB community is very respectful towards transgender people, and there is for the most part great affection indeed in the transgender community towards LGB people, but recent events in the LGBT forum does not fill me with confidence that we can live side-by-side on the internet. I do not believe there are enough LGB people who remember what it was like 20 years ago to make a modern-day LGBT forum work in Ireland.



In the mean time, unless and until this becomes a safe place for me, I'll say goodbye.



Many thanks,

Deirdre. I just wanted to take this opportunity to say goodbye to the friends I've made here.I understand the above (when taken in context) to be saying that because of the existence of thethread, I (and presumably all the other transgendered members of this forum) can expect to receive particular personal abuse from some of the other members of this forum onof the threads on this forum. I believe thethread has merit in that it is attempting to draw questions that "might be stupid or not PC" away from the main forum, so I'm not going to petition for its removal so that I can return to this forum in safety.I note with dismay that what has apparently been said in the post above about thethread giving carte blanche to mete out particularly bad treatment to transgender members of this forum has been brought to the attention of a moderator, and nothing (other than an offer to remove) has been done. I believe the existence ofis just an- nothing more - and hence it would be wrong and terribly counter-productive to remove it.I'd like to point out that the post above says "you'd never see posts like those ... directed towards gay/bisexual members of this forum". In other words, this forum is intrinsically less safe for transgender members. Speaking for myself, the abuse I've received in recent times is simply too much for me. I'm trying to transition - which is already incredibly difficult - and I need support, not abuse and grief.I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate those members of boards.ie lgbt who don't want transgender members on this forum.One of the most interesting posts in the whole recent sorry saga was made on the subject of priviledge ( http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...5&postcount=38 ). The fact of the matter is that the transgender community is maybe 20 or more years behind the LGB community. The recent victory of Lydia Foy is our "legalisation of homosexuality" - something that happened for the LGB community 17 years ago. There is a very significant priviledge gap between LGB and T.I believe one of two things needs to happen. I believe that either the charter for the LGBT forum needs to change so as to incorporate some of the recommendations about handling priviledge referenced in this article . I would add a recommendation - namely that there needs to be at least one transgender moderator.However, there have already been cries of transgender being "sacred cows" on the LGBT forum, so I'm not at all confident that a change to the charter can be agreed. In which case, I believe that there needs to be a seperate forum for transgender. I would utterly hate to see this happen - by and large the LGB community is very respectful towards transgender people, and there is for the most part great affection indeed in the transgender community towards LGB people, but recent events in the LGBT forum does not fill me with confidence that we can live side-by-side on the internet. I do not believe there are enough LGB people who remember what it was like 20 years ago to make a modern-day LGBT forum work in Ireland.In the mean time, unless and until this becomes a safe place for me, I'll say goodbye.Many thanks,Deirdre.