﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:09:49 ] Vile Belief > But before we depart here, let me just say one thing. Although you may think what you do is piracy, it's not. Piracy was defined before you came to the game. You can try to redefine it, that's fine

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:10:29 ] Vile Belief > But this is not about one person hiding behind alts claiming to be piracy. It's a profession we created that's defiend a certain way

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:10:37 ] Psychotic Monk > It was defined before the internet was created, much less eve online.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:10:58 ] Vile Belief > Nope, what definitions lie outside of the game are not relevant

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:10:59 ] Psychotic Monk > Consentual lowsec PvP is not piracy.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:11:09 ] Vile Belief > all that's relevant is what we make it, as pilots of EVE

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:11:32 ] Vile Belief > Hence why scamming is not piracy, nor corp theft or simply killing another pilot

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:12:05 ] Vile Belief > You have every right to believe what you want and call yourself whatever. But just know, you are not the pirate king if you're not a pirate.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:12:13 ] Psychotic Monk > Yes, theft and scamming are their own thing, although are often the sorts of things pirates tend to also do.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:12:35 ] Vile Belief > You can't really define a terminology you don't practice nor have created

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:12:41 ] Psychotic Monk > Piracy is killing boats for a profit.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:12:44 ] Vile Belief > Again, we were doing this before you came to the game

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:12:58 ] Vile Belief > It's like a non-Chef telling a Chef what he does is not cooking

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:13:05 ] Vile Belief > You're not a Chef

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:13:28 ] Vile Belief > Or a virgin telling a non-virgin how to have sex

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:13:33 ] Psychotic Monk > I'm the Pirate King. I most certainly do get to speak knowledgably about what piracy is.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:13:55 ] Vile Belief > You can if you want to fabricate your history in EVE

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:13:56 ] Psychotic Monk > If you dispute my claim, feel free to take the crown from me.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:14:02 ] Vile Belief > More power to you, but you will gain no respect

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:14:11 ] Psychotic Monk > I have all the respect I like.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:14:19 ] Vile Belief > From new pilots, I've seen

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:14:42 ] Vile Belief > But you will not win any CSM positions or anything worth value

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:14:45 ] Psychotic Monk > And also the oldbros in my profession.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:14:52 ] Vile Belief > Believe me, I've been here since 2003

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:14:57 ] Vile Belief > seen ya types come and go

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:15:04 ] Psychotic Monk > Won't I? I came within a couple dozen votes when I ran last time.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:15:23 ] Vile Belief > Na, won't ever happen

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:15:34 ] Psychotic Monk > And being older does not make you right. It just means either you were right at one point or have been wrong longer.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:15:43 ] Vile Belief > It makes me experienced

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:16:00 ] Vile Belief > Especially in my trade, that which, is greater than yours

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:16:00 ] Psychotic Monk > There was a time that pirates operated in lowsec, but it's not the space that makes the pirate, it's the actions.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:16:12 ] Psychotic Monk > Your trade is greater than mine?

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:16:22 ] Psychotic Monk > You're talking about your exploration corp?

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:16:34 ] Vile Belief > And I especially worry that someone like you may come close to winning a CSM and pushing our trade further down the rabbit hole

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:16:39 ] Vile Belief > which completely bites

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:16:53 ] Vile Belief > Especially after all the hard work

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:17:20 ] Vile Belief > When I say my trade, I mean piracy

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:17:47 ] Vile Belief > I have been in piracy longer than you, therefore, my experience in that trade is greater than yours

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:18:20 ] Psychotic Monk > Age does not mean skill, knowledge, or innovation. It just means age.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:18:34 ] Vile Belief > You think skill doesn't come with time and practice?

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:18:45 ] Vile Belief > Same with knowledge?

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:18:50 ] Psychotic Monk > If age meant you were better, we'd still be under whatever alliance happened to form first in this game.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:19:21 ] Vile Belief > So you don't think time increases experience, knowledge, skill and even innovation?

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:20:00 ] Psychotic Monk > It's only one factor in gaining those things, and a relatively minor one at that.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:20:28 ] Psychotic Monk > After all, I teach newbros who are less than a month old to murder the boats of five year old players every day.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:20:29 ] Vile Belief > And what would be another factor if you don't mind sharing?

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:20:50 ] Vile Belief > If time is one factor, what's another

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:21:06 ] Psychotic Monk > Insightful thought on the subject would be another.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:21:12 ] Vile Belief > So knowledge

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:21:23 ] Psychotic Monk > Not the same thing, but if you like, sure.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:21:41 ] Vile Belief > Even so, a different understanding of a subject

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:21:46 ] Vile Belief > thinking outside the box, etc

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:21:55 ] Vile Belief > Doesn't that come with time too?

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:22:32 ] Vile Belief > If you disagree, then we may have to depart here for sure. Illogical thinking is bad for your health

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:22:40 ] Psychotic Monk > Nope. It comes with effort and appropriate mindset.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:22:52 ] Psychotic Monk > If anything, age just solidies your ways and makes you less adaptable.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:22:54 ] Vile Belief > Uh-huh

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:23:05 ] Vile Belief > Effort is also realted to time mr. Monk

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:23:14 ] Vile Belief > More time you sink, the more effort is gained

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:23:28 ] Psychotic Monk > Age, in the case of insightful thought, is actually a disadvantage.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:23:29 ] Vile Belief > The better understanding of one subject and how to look at that in different lights too

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:23:40 ] Vile Belief > Man, do you read what you type sometimes

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:23:43 ] Vile Belief > hehe

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:23:52 ] Vile Belief > But anyways, have to agree to disagree

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:24:09 ] Vile Belief > Please don't kill my trade with your radical and illogical thinking

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:24:15 ] Psychotic Monk > I do. And you seem pretty fixated on your conclusion without any backing logic. Or, at least, self-referetial logic.

﻿[ 2013.06.21 01:24:23 ] Vile Belief > It's all I got in this game, and I've been in this game for a very long time