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Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.



Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.



Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).



We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth.



...Then came the Presidential Ballot.



Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".



No checking credentials, IDs, NOTHING.



I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras. I literally had over 50 ballots in my hand.



[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]



We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.



I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.



About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.



I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".



As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.



I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.



I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.



His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.



Again, no credential check, no ID check, NOTHING.



No, I didn't vote again...



I went back to my precinct and they had the results:

74% Cruz

14% Trump

11% Kasich



Now just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.



As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)



Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.



There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.



UTAH RESULTS ARE A COMPLETE SHAM



And it just cost Trump 40 delegates.



Last Edited by PirateMonkey on 03/23/2016 12:57 AM

7/11 was a part time job! Just got back from my caucus... My head is still spinning.Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth....Then came the Presidential Ballot.Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras.We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.No, I didn't vote again...I went back to my precinct and they had the results:74% Cruz14% Trump11% KasichNow just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.UTAH RESULTS ARE A COMPLETE SHAMAnd it just cost Trump 40 delegates.

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03/23/2016 12:37 AM

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"Mark the paper ballot and stick it in the cardboard shoebox."



About as official as voting for my favorite film at Sundance.

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03/23/2016 12:39 AM

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They had us write our choice on a small blank piece of white paper, we then placed them in a tin can. Half the people left, then a woman walked in and yelled. "You need to re do your vote on the official ballet!"



Half the people's vote didn't count, she said they were not on the official ballet and would be cast out.

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03/23/2016 12:40 AM



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That's the thing... who do I report this to? who will listen? The police? Trump's Hotline?



Will anyone really care?



In all honesty, I've never felt more powerless then this moment.



Last Edited by PirateMonkey on 03/23/2016 12:40 AM

7/11 was a part time job! That's the thing... who do I report this to? who will listen? The police? Trump's Hotline?Will anyone really care?In all honesty, I've never felt more powerless then this moment.

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03/23/2016 12:44 AM

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[link to stopthesteal.org]



"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECT



A project of the Committee To Restore America's Greatness

CONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.



The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary." This is Roger Stone's website dedicated to this purpose"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECTA project of the Committee To Restore America's GreatnessCONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary."

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03/23/2016 12:46 AM



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"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECT



A project of the Committee To Restore America's Greatness

CONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.



The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary."

This is Roger Stone's website dedicated to this purpose"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECTA project of the Committee To Restore America's GreatnessCONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary." Quoting: minimeister 71704086



ok, I called the number and left a message.



I also emailed this to

7/11 was a part time job! ok, I called the number and left a message.I also emailed this to [email protected]

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"Mark the paper ballot and stick it in the cardboard shoebox."



About as official as voting for my favorite film at Sundance.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71005090



My experience was similar.



They had us write our choice on a small blank piece of white paper, we then placed them in a tin can. Half the people left, then a woman walked in and yelled. "You need to re do your vote on the official ballet!"



Half the people's vote didn't count, she said they were not on the official ballet and would be cast out.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65467580



Thanks for sharing your experiences guys.



It's crazy that there were more controls around electing precinct officers than around voting for president!

7/11 was a part time job! Thanks for sharing your experiences guys.It's crazy that there were more controls around electing precinct officers than around voting for president!

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03/23/2016 12:53 AM

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There's NO legal process in place...

NO law or bill passed or voted on to validate it as lawful,

NO tech oversight



This entire process needs to be challenged in court immediately!



People need to call their state representatives and bitch.



Everyone knows that online activity is easily hacked. Hacking is FORESEEABLE



When something is "foreseeable"...a legal challenge is mandatory

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03/23/2016 12:54 AM

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[link to stopthesteal.org]



"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECT



A project of the Committee To Restore America's Greatness

CONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.



The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary."

This is Roger Stone's website dedicated to this purpose"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECTA project of the Committee To Restore America's GreatnessCONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary." Quoting: minimeister 71704086



Trump needs to get his legal team working on this immediatly. As in NOW!!



If this online voting is allowed...they'll just switch over to online voting in November and steal the election with a switch of a button. Trump needs to get his legal team working on this immediatly. As in NOW!!If this online voting is allowed...they'll just switch over to online voting in November and steal the election with a switch of a button.

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[link to stopthesteal.org]



"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECT



A project of the Committee To Restore America's Greatness

CONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.



The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary."

This is Roger Stone's website dedicated to this purpose"TRUMP BALLOT SECURITY PROJECTA project of the Committee To Restore America's GreatnessCONTACT 1-855-245-4634 TO REPORT IRREGULARITIES OR VOTER FRAUD.The Trump Ballot Security Project was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary." Quoting: minimeister 71704086



ok, I called the number and left a message.



I also emailed this to

ok, I called the number and left a message.I also emailed this to [email protected] Quoting: PirateMonkey



I am dubious about the state government or Republican Party officials there-but it should be reported to them as well PM. May I suggest a news source as well. If you really want attention called to it, make a video and post it.



That will get noticed.



GREAT Job PM!

link to youtu.be (secure)] I am dubious about the state government or Republican Party officials there-but it should be reported to them as well PM. May I suggest a news source as well. If you really want attention called to it, make a video and post it.That will get noticed.GREAT Job PM!

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I'm not surprised, bunch of liars all the mormans.

Quoting: -GLP-Christian-



This isn't a "Mormon Cult" thing. (But yes, I did witness a lot of hive-mind/don't-rock-the-boat mentality).



This is incompetence and/or corruption within the Party.



Every single member of Utah Republican Party leadership needs to be removed over this.

7/11 was a part time job! This isn't a "Mormon Cult" thing. (But yes, I did witness a lot of hive-mind/don't-rock-the-boat mentality).This is incompetence and/or corruption within the Party.Every single member of Utah Republican Party leadership needs to be removed over this.

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Report Copyright Violation Re: UTAH CAUCUS: First hand insider report - Incompetence, Manipulation, and Ballot Stuffing!!! If Cruz comes out of the Utah Primary with anything near 50% of the votes.....YOU KNOW IT IS A YUUUUGE SHAM!!!!



If it is significantly over 50% for Cruz.....YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF GOP ASS MONKEYS throwing the vote.



Anyone part of this fraudulent voting needs a humiliating kick in the crotch!



This shit makes me sick!!!!



If Cruz comes out of the Utah Primary with anything near 50% of the votes.....YOU KNOW IT IS A YUUUUGE SHAM!!!!If it is significantly over 50% for Cruz.....YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF GOP ASS MONKEYS throwing the vote.Anyone part of this fraudulent voting needs a humiliating kick in the crotch!This shit makes me sick!!!!

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03/23/2016 01:02 AM

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Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.



Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.



Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).



We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth.



...Then came the Presidential Ballot.



Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".



No checking credentials, IDs, NOTHING.



I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras. I literally had over 50 ballots in my hand.



[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]



We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.



I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.



About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.



I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".



As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.



I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.



I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.



His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.



Again, no credential check, no ID check, NOTHING.



No, I didn't vote again...



I went back to my precinct and they had the results:

74% Cruz

14% Trump

11% Kasich



Now just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.



As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)



Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.



There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.



UTAH RESULTS ARE A1 COMPLETE SHAM



And it just cost Trump 40 delegates.

Just got back from my caucus... My head is still spinning.Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth....Then came the Presidential Ballot.Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras.We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.No, I didn't vote again...I went back to my precinct and they had the results:74% Cruz14% Trump11% KasichNow just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.UTAH RESULTS ARE A1 COMPLETE SHAMAnd it just cost Trump 40 delegates. Quoting: PirateMonkey



Generally speaking, Utah residents are extremely intelligent. They can thank their education system for that which does not comply with the education system I've seen elsewhere in this country. I've sampled quite a few being a military brat. Highest HS graduation rate, and highest rate to go onto college.



That being said, the education system in Utah is unlike any in the Union. It is far superior to any other state (meaning, it hasn't been infested by liberals), and it would not surprise me IN THE LEAST if Trump does NOT win.



Utah is a state of critical thinkers. Generally speaking, Utah residents are extremely intelligent. They can thank their education system for that which does not comply with the education system I've seen elsewhere in this country. I've sampled quite a few being a military brat. Highest HS graduation rate, and highest rate to go onto college.That being said, the education system in Utah is unlike any in the Union. It is far superior to any other state (meaning, it hasn't been infested by liberals), and it would not surprise me IN THE LEAST if Trump does NOT win.Utah is a state of critical thinkers.

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I'm not surprised, bunch of liars all the mormans.

Quoting: -GLP-Christian-



This isn't a "Mormon Cult" thing. (But yes, I did witness a lot of hive-mind/don't-rock-the-boat mentality).



This is incompetence and/or corruption within the Party.



Every single member of Utah Republican Party leadership needs to be removed over this.

This isn't a "Mormon Cult" thing. (But yes, I did witness a lot of hive-mind/don't-rock-the-boat mentality).This is incompetence and/or corruption within the Party.Every single member of Utah Republican Party leadership needs to be removed over this. Quoting: PirateMonkey



So the Utah Republican Party leadership are not mormans?

So the Utah Republican Party leadership are not mormans? Quoting: -GLP-Christian-



No, not all. I'm not.

7/11 was a part time job! No, not all. I'm not.