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Sr. MemberActivity: 325Merit: 250 Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 01:44:46 PM #15282 Quote from: David Latapie on June 09, 2014, 12:59:09 PM I noticed that **** have been deleted. I don't know who did this, but I know it is not cryptomommy. So someone is abusing moderator role. I find it unexcusable, whoever this person is. This remind us why it matters so much that the Mintcoin thread is not self-moderated.



Independantly on my own opinion on the Coup d'État, it, I value freedom of speech enough to be upset by this. So, if anyone has a copy of it, please PM and I will paste it here.



I did, and I demodded two of the moderators that helped this to come back! I know it's not that democratic but I'm extremely busy at the moment and couldn't handle the flow of comments it will generate/actions that could ensue from that. I apologize for that, but what the hell would you expect when you post something like this? Also, I'm not busy for nothing, indirectly, it will benefit to MintCoin...

Moreover, she posted wrong information (resulting from a misunderstanding of what I wrote, but still) and a private conversation.

Anyway, this is working against us. I'm totally grateful towards Cryptomommy for all the work she accomplished so far, but we spent more time than anyone else on this coin. We are more legitimate than anyone else to decide what we're doing with it.



Edit: and please David, remove this link, because it's just adding to the drama. I did, and I demodded two of the moderators that helped this to come back! I know it's not that democratic but I'm extremely busy at the moment and couldn't handle the flow of comments it will generate/actions that could ensue from that. I apologize for that, but what the hell would you expect when you post something like this? Also, I'm not busy for nothing, indirectly, it will benefit to MintCoin...Moreover, she posted wrong information (resulting from a misunderstanding of what I wrote, but still) and a private conversation.Anyway, this is working against us. I'm totally grateful towards Cryptomommy for all the work she accomplished so far, but we spent more time than anyone else on this coin. We are more legitimate than anyone else to decide what we're doing with it.Edit: and please David, remove this link, because it's just adding to the drama.

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Full MemberActivity: 340Merit: 100io.ezystayz.com Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 01:46:31 PM #15283 Mintcoin added to Bidcoind.com as a payment method to buy / sell goods and services with Mintcoin.



Generate buzz for Mintcoin by listing quality items for sale totaly free of charge and merchant mine MTC on the side,



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Everyone is talking about merchant integration for their coin, saying that theirs will be the one,



well if you don't start to demonstrate merchant application for it, then who else will?





pay direct to the seller no middle wallet. start small, gain more feedback comments and go bigger soon your reputation will speak for itself more coins for more positive feedbacks from buyers.



Win Win Win situation



Sell quality stuff for your coin and generate publicity for your favorite coin +1

Get more of the coins you like by selling your new or used items + 1

Get Marinecoins on the side by merchant mining them without extra effort +1



your accounts are credited 0.5 MTC as gift good for listing upto 5 items with basic settings.



make sure you enter a valid Marinecoin client wallet address during registration but not a mobile or web wallet,



no listings for illegal items,

no spam listings items with picture and detailed description ONLY

valid user registration, do not use fake names fake address your account will be suspended

this is as serious as Ebay

Lisitings of 14 days minimum or longer duration required to qualify for mining block rewards

No listings under crypto currencies category, exchanging coins is not a merchant activity.

You will get results within 180 blocks on the network about 6 hours on target network speed, delayed 180 blocks payouts gives time to delist unwanted or illegal listings and listers who spam the site just for getting MTC.



There is feedback area after each successful sale, seller and buyer can give each other feedbacks the more feedback you have the more coins you make by selling your stuff more easyly.



if more than 1 person lists an item during the same block interval they share the block reward of 1 MTC, how ever if more than 10 people list an item in order for you not to lose your listing fee of 0.1 MTC, the reward auto doubles to 0.2 for each seller,



list an item mine block after block until someone else lists an item,



you can sell your items for Mintcoins, you will still get merchant mined Marinecoins,



Mined coins auto cashout to your registered wallet when balance exceeds 5 MTC, but you can also cash out manually if you wish when your balance is below that.



goto



then goto



Enjoy

Bidcoind.com Generate buzz for Mintcoin by listing quality items for sale totaly free of charge and merchant mine MTC on the side,Everyone is talking about merchant integration for their coin, saying that theirs will be the one,well if you don't start to demonstrate merchant application for it, then who else will?pay direct to the seller no middle wallet. start small, gain more feedback comments and go bigger soon your reputation will speak for itself more coins for more positive feedbacks from buyers.Win Win Win situationSell quality stuff for your coin and generate publicity for your favorite coin +1Get more of the coins you like by selling your new or used items + 1Get Marinecoins on the side by merchant mining them without extra effort +1your accounts are credited 0.5 MTC as gift good for listing upto 5 items with basic settings.make sure you enter a valid Marinecoin client wallet address during registration but not a mobile or web wallet,no listings for illegal items,no spam listings items with picture and detailed description ONLYvalid user registration, do not use fake names fake address your account will be suspendedthis is as serious as EbayLisitings of 14 days minimum or longer duration required to qualify for mining block rewardsNo listings under crypto currencies category, exchanging coins is not a merchant activity.You will get results within 180 blocks on the network about 6 hours on target network speed, delayed 180 blocks payouts gives time to delist unwanted or illegal listings and listers who spam the site just for getting MTC.There is feedback area after each successful sale, seller and buyer can give each other feedbacks the more feedback you have the more coins you make by selling your stuff more easyly.if more than 1 person lists an item during the same block interval they share the block reward of 1 MTC, how ever if more than 10 people list an item in order for you not to lose your listing fee of 0.1 MTC, the reward auto doubles to 0.2 for each seller,list an item mine block after block until someone else lists an item,you can sell your items for Mintcoins, you will still get merchant mined Marinecoins,Mined coins auto cashout to your registered wallet when balance exceeds 5 MTC, but you can also cash out manually if you wish when your balance is below that.goto www.marinecoin.org to download your MTC wallet to receive your Merchant Mining Block Rewardsthen goto www.bidcoind.com register and list an item and wait for the MTC rewards to flood in to your wallet,EnjoyBidcoind.com ► EzyStayz ◄ ♦ A Global Holiday Rental Platform Powered by Crypto ♦ ► EzyStayz ◄

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Last edit: June 09, 2014, 04:32:56 PM by David Latapie #15284 Quote from: mintcointeam on June 09, 2014, 01:44:46 PM Quote from: David Latapie on June 09, 2014, 12:59:09 PM



Independantly on my own opinion on the Coup d'État, it, I value freedom of speech enough to be upset by this. So, if anyone has a copy of it, please PM and I will paste it here.

I noticed that http://www.reddit.com/r/MintCoin/comments/27gxu5/mintcoin_coup_d%A9tat/ have been deleted. I don't know who did this, but I know it is not cryptomommy. So someone is abusing moderator role. I find it unexcusable, whoever this person is. This remind us why it matters so much that the Mintcoin thread is not self-moderated.Independantly on my own opinion on the Coup d'État, it, I value freedom of speech enough to be upset by this. So, if anyone has a copy of it, please PM and I will paste it here.

I did, and I demodded two of the moderators that helped this to come back! I know it's not that democratic but I'm extremely busy at the moment and couldn't handle the flow of comments it will generate/actions that could ensue from that. I apologize for that, but what the hell would you expect when you post something like this?

Moreover, she posted wrong information (resulting from a misunderstanding of what I wrote, but still) and a private conversation.

Anyway, this is working against us. I'm totally grateful towards Cryptomommy for all the work she accomplished so far, but we spent more time than anyone else on this coin. We are more legitimate than anyone else to decide what we're doing with it.

I did, and I demodded two of the moderators that helped this to come back! I know it's not that democratic but I'm extremely busy at the moment and couldn't handle the flow of comments it will generate/actions that could ensue from that. I apologize for that, but what the hell would you expect when you post something like this?Moreover, she posted wrong information (resulting from a misunderstanding of what I wrote, but still) and a private conversation.Anyway, this is working against us. I'm totally grateful towards Cryptomommy for all the work she accomplished so far, but we spent more time than anyone else on this coin. We are more legitimate than anyone else to decide what we're doing with it.

No mintcointeam. No.



Being busy is not an excuse. You apparently have enough time to resort to these tactics. You could have just let it go if you are so "busy". You know perfectly well that deleting posts will only generate more comments. As for "wrong information", you could have just replied to them, like a responsable person (or group of persons) does. On monero, this is what we do:



I don't buy the "extremely busy". You "extremely don't give a fuck" and being busy is an excuse. Several times I asked about the premine. Only after around 5 repeated questions I got an (very incomplete) answer and only because I threatened to reveal some things about you.

(by the way, readers, do you want me to tell the truth about the premine? - no, it is not what you think, whatever you may think )



Mintcoin Fund is on its way (I was supposed to send the corrected documents today but the post office is closed today, because of Pentecost - bummer). But I won't fund it without a reliable development team. I use "development team" on purpose. I'm sick and tired of the "anonymity" and "being busy" excuses. I work daily and in a much more intensive way with people who are are dead serious on anonymity (and impressively good at it) and they don't let it be an excuse for doing nothing. And they are very busy too and still they do an awesome amount of work.

If the Mintcoin Fund is not funded, I will send you back the 5 millions MINT you sent me for this. Because I did not use a single one of them yet (I should pay back myself for the register letter and the stamps, though). Because I am transparent and people know it - what are the addresses of the premine? . I don't hide behind "I am busy". If I say something, I deliver. If I cannot anymore, see rule #5 of FOSS (below)



I've been among your greatest supporters. Several times these months, I did not say everything I knew because I thought it would be detrimental to the coin.

Now I think YOU are detrimental to the coin. Look at karmacoin, grumpycoin, asiacoin, saturncoin, bottlecaps... A coin with a great community can make it.



Let me remind you rule #5 of open source software: "When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand it off to a competent successor."



There is nothing shameful about not having time to work on a coin. But there IS something shameful about refusing to let it go and take a whole community as a hostage. Especially with the tactics you are using.



I'll tell you something: I met someone using these kinds of tactics before. He was my former boss.

I quit and I funded



I am calling everyone who want Mintcoin to be something to act now. Stop being sheeps, waiting for something to happen, waiting for "the dev" to do something. Are you children or are you grown-ups? Do you need someone to change your diapers? Send Mintcoins to the Sonoma project, contact your dev friends about the wallet, propose crowdfunding, communication. Lend some legal expertise on NGO... Stop whining or looking at the chart. Look at Freicoin, do they complain do they look daily at the price?



Success is not given, it is deserved. And you, dev, legitimacy is not given, it is deserved.



But I don't expect you to answer. You are probably "extremely busy". No mintcointeam. No.Being busy is not an excuse. You apparently have enough time to resort to these tactics. You could have just let it go if you are so "busy". You know perfectly well that deleting posts will only generate more comments. As for "wrong information", you could have just replied to them, like a responsable person (or group of persons) does. On monero, this is what we do: short, precise answers . Does not take much time and people can just extrapolate on that. And guess what? They like it, it shows that we focus on what really matters.I don't buy the "extremely busy". You "extremely don't give a fuck" and being busy is an excuse. Several times I asked about the premine. Only after around 5 repeated questions I got an (very incomplete) answer and only because I threatened to reveal some things about you.(by the way, readers, do you want me to tell the truth about the premine? - no, it is not what you think, whatever you may thinkMintcoin Fund is on its way (I was supposed to send the corrected documents today but the post office is closed today, because of Pentecost - bummer). But I won't fund it without a reliable development team. I use "development team" on purpose. I'm sick and tired of the "anonymity" and "being busy" excuses. I work daily and in a much more intensive way with people who are are dead serious on anonymity (and impressively good at it) and they don't let it be an excuse for doing nothing. And they are very busy too and still they do an awesome amount of work.If the Mintcoin Fund is not funded, I will send you back the 5 millions MINT you sent me for this. Because I did not use a single one of them yet (I should pay back myself for the register letter and the stamps, though). Because I am transparent and people know it - what are the addresses of the premine? . I don't hide behind "I am busy". If I say something, I deliver. If I cannot anymore, see rule #5 of FOSS (below)I've been among your greatest supporters. Several times these months, I did not say everything I knew because I thought it would be detrimental to the coin.Now I think YOU are detrimental to the coin. Look at karmacoin, grumpycoin, asiacoin, saturncoin, bottlecaps... A coin with a great community can make it.Let me remind you rule #5 of open source software: "When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand it off to a competent successor."There is nothing shameful about not having time to work on a coin. But there IS something shameful about refusing to let it go and take a whole community as a hostage. Especially with the tactics you are using.I'll tell you something: I met someone using these kinds of tactics before. He was my former boss.I quit and I funded a company doing the exact same thing as him but in a fair way. Guess what: most of the teammates left with me and we attracted more and more people who could just not stand these tactics anymore. Granted, it took time and we endured pain, but now we are signing international contracts and extending every year. We are a real team, helping each other, communicating a lot on a daily basis and this, for years. Him? Well he keeps deleting posts on his forum I am calling everyone who want Mintcoin to be something to act now. Stop being sheeps, waiting for something to happen, waiting for "the dev" to do something. Are you children or are you grown-ups? Do you need someone to change your diapers? Send Mintcoins to the Sonoma project, contact your dev friends about the wallet, propose crowdfunding, communication. Lend some legal expertise on NGO... Stop whining or looking at the chart. Look at Freicoin, do they complain do they look daily at the price?Success is not given, it is deserved. And you, dev, legitimacy is not given, it is deserved.But I don't expect you to answer. You are probably "extremely busy". Monero : the first crytocurrency to bring bank secrecy and net neutrality to the blockchain. HyperStake : pushing the limits of staking. Reputation thread Free bitcoins: reviews, hints : freebitco.in, freedoge.co.in, qoinpro

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Come on, Mr. Developer! Give us a proper statement! Deleting stuff coz u'r scared ain't that grown up is it?!



Transparency is key for success! if you want your coins (premine or whatever) to become more valuable you need to tell us the truth. 10 Minutes to write a statement are possible even if you're busy. Otherwise no one will invest more money in this coin and just move on to other coins with an active development team.



i say if there are no information on premine till end of june I drop my mints. I suggest other people do the same. Ain't no FUD. Just that i'm sick of this. wow amazing post, David!Come on, Mr. Developer! Give us a proper statement! Deleting stuff coz u'r scared ain't that grown up is it?!Transparency is key for success! if you want your coins (premine or whatever) to become more valuable you need to tell us the truth. 10 Minutes to write a statement are possible even if you're busy. Otherwise no one will invest more money in this coin and just move on to other coins with an active development team.i say if there are no information on premine till end of june I drop my mints. I suggest other people do the same. Ain't no FUD. Just that i'm sick of this.

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LegendaryActivity: 1330Merit: 1000Blockchain Developer Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 03:13:19 PM #15286 At the moment I am a freelance developer with experience coding for peercoin clones. I would be interested in helping revive the community and wallet here, but what exactly is everyone hoping to have done? From an outsiders perspective it looks like a hard fork might be needed to slow inflation... but not sure what the actual stake holders think. What other work would need to be done to the wallet?



If I were to help with a few wallet related things, I would have to have absolute integrity from mintcoin. I just exited a coin because of shady operations in the background that I was not comfortable with and did not want my name attached to. I would hope that mintcoin has a high level of integrity. Veil | PIVX | HyperStake | Crown | SaluS Projects I Contribute To: libzerocoin

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Sr. MemberActivity: 307Merit: 252 Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 03:22:36 PM #15288 Quote from: presstab on June 09, 2014, 03:13:19 PM At the moment I am a freelance developer with experience coding for peercoin clones. I would be interested in helping revive the community and wallet here, but what exactly is everyone hoping to have done? From an outsiders perspective it looks like a hard fork might be needed to slow inflation... but not sure what the actual stake holders think. What other work would need to be done to the wallet?



If I were to help with a few wallet related things, I would have to have absolute integrity from mintcoin. I just exited a coin because of shady operations in the background that I was not comfortable with and did not want my name attached to. I would hope that mintcoin has a high level of integrity.



glad to see you maybe interested. the inflation is the way it supposed to be.



what do you think? is a secure online wallet possible for this coin? with the possibility to mint? Online PoS wallet? This would really bring the coin forward! glad to see you maybe interested. the inflation is the way it supposed to be.what do you think? is a secure online wallet possible for this coin? with the possibility to mint? Online PoS wallet? This would really bring the coin forward!

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LegendaryActivity: 1330Merit: 1000Blockchain Developer Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 03:59:41 PM #15289 Quote from: Jeff Jefferson on June 09, 2014, 03:22:36 PM Quote from: presstab on June 09, 2014, 03:13:19 PM At the moment I am a freelance developer with experience coding for peercoin clones. I would be interested in helping revive the community and wallet here, but what exactly is everyone hoping to have done? From an outsiders perspective it looks like a hard fork might be needed to slow inflation... but not sure what the actual stake holders think. What other work would need to be done to the wallet?



If I were to help with a few wallet related things, I would have to have absolute integrity from mintcoin. I just exited a coin because of shady operations in the background that I was not comfortable with and did not want my name attached to. I would hope that mintcoin has a high level of integrity.



glad to see you maybe interested. the inflation is the way it supposed to be.



what do you think? is a secure online wallet possible for this coin? with the possibility to mint? Online PoS wallet? This would really bring the coin forward!

glad to see you maybe interested. the inflation is the way it supposed to be.what do you think? is a secure online wallet possible for this coin? with the possibility to mint? Online PoS wallet? This would really bring the coin forward!

Personally I am not interested in getting an online wallet going. It would be too much maintenance, and I wouldn't want to be responsible for running a server that does everyone's hashing for them. Is it possible? Yes it is. But I am probably the wrong guy for that job.



From what I have seen from my exploration of MINT so far is that some fairly quick changes can be made. Modifying the code to provide a quick launch of the application, modifying the code to reduce the computing resources that staking uses, and adding Qt5+ support are the first obvious things I see.



Fork wise there could be a few things as well, but that would require a community consensus. What I would have in mind is maybe altering block target to be 60 seconds instead of 30 seconds. Slower growth of blockchain size, higher network stake weight (more secure), and a bit slower compounding of the money supply (although same personal reward). That could be one option that the mintcoin community might want to discuss. Personally I am not interested in getting an online wallet going. It would be too much maintenance, and I wouldn't want to be responsible for running a server that does everyone's hashing for them. Is it possible? Yes it is. But I am probably the wrong guy for that job.From what I have seen from my exploration of MINT so far is that some fairly quick changes can be made. Modifying the code to provide a quick launch of the application, modifying the code to reduce the computing resources that staking uses, and adding Qt5+ support are the first obvious things I see.Fork wise there could be a few things as well, but that would require a community consensus. What I would have in mind is maybe altering block target to be 60 seconds instead of 30 seconds. Slower growth of blockchain size, higher network stake weight (more secure), and a bit slower compounding of the money supply (although same personal reward). That could be one option that the mintcoin community might want to discuss. Veil | PIVX | HyperStake | Crown | SaluS Projects I Contribute To: libzerocoin

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Full MemberActivity: 210Merit: 100 Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 04:20:20 PM #15290 Quote from: presstab on June 09, 2014, 03:59:41 PM Personally I am not interested in getting an online wallet going. It would be too much maintenance, and I wouldn't want to be responsible for running a server that does everyone's hashing for them. Is it possible? Yes it is. But I am probably the wrong guy for that job.



From what I have seen from my exploration of MINT so far is that some fairly quick changes can be made. Modifying the code to provide a quick launch of the application, modifying the code to reduce the computing resources that staking uses, and adding Qt5+ support are the first obvious things I see.



Fork wise there could be a few things as well, but that would require a community consensus. What I would have in mind is maybe altering block target to be 60 seconds instead of 30 seconds. Slower growth of blockchain size, higher network stake weight (more secure), and a bit slower compounding of the money supply (although same personal reward). That could be one option that the mintcoin community might want to discuss.



I like all of these ideas. I like all of these ideas. \

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LegendaryActivity: 2044Merit: 1004 Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 05:12:22 PM #15291 Quote from: presstab on June 09, 2014, 03:59:41 PM Quote from: Jeff Jefferson on June 09, 2014, 03:22:36 PM Quote from: presstab on June 09, 2014, 03:13:19 PM At the moment I am a freelance developer with experience coding for peercoin clones. I would be interested in helping revive the community and wallet here, but what exactly is everyone hoping to have done? From an outsiders perspective it looks like a hard fork might be needed to slow inflation... but not sure what the actual stake holders think. What other work would need to be done to the wallet?



If I were to help with a few wallet related things, I would have to have absolute integrity from mintcoin. I just exited a coin because of shady operations in the background that I was not comfortable with and did not want my name attached to. I would hope that mintcoin has a high level of integrity.



glad to see you maybe interested. the inflation is the way it supposed to be.



what do you think? is a secure online wallet possible for this coin? with the possibility to mint? Online PoS wallet? This would really bring the coin forward!

glad to see you maybe interested. the inflation is the way it supposed to be.what do you think? is a secure online wallet possible for this coin? with the possibility to mint? Online PoS wallet? This would really bring the coin forward!

Personally I am not interested in getting an online wallet going. It would be too much maintenance, and I wouldn't want to be responsible for running a server that does everyone's hashing for them. Is it possible? Yes it is. But I am probably the wrong guy for that job.



From what I have seen from my exploration of MINT so far is that some fairly quick changes can be made. Modifying the code to provide a quick launch of the application, modifying the code to reduce the computing resources that staking uses, and adding Qt5+ support are the first obvious things I see.



Fork wise there could be a few things as well, but that would require a community consensus. What I would have in mind is maybe altering block target to be 60 seconds instead of 30 seconds. Slower growth of blockchain size, higher network stake weight (more secure), and a bit slower compounding of the money supply (although same personal reward). That could be one option that the mintcoin community might want to discuss.

Personally I am not interested in getting an online wallet going. It would be too much maintenance, and I wouldn't want to be responsible for running a server that does everyone's hashing for them. Is it possible? Yes it is. But I am probably the wrong guy for that job.From what I have seen from my exploration of MINT so far is that some fairly quick changes can be made. Modifying the code to provide a quick launch of the application, modifying the code to reduce the computing resources that staking uses, and adding Qt5+ support are the first obvious things I see.Fork wise there could be a few things as well, but that would require a community consensus. What I would have in mind is maybe altering block target to be 60 seconds instead of 30 seconds. Slower growth of blockchain size, higher network stake weight (more secure), and a bit slower compounding of the money supply (although same personal reward). That could be one option that the mintcoin community might want to discuss.

Not sure why every new dev is so open to forking coins by changing params. They were set for a reason and changing them would undermine what the whole projer stands for. No serious investor will ever

buy into a coin with such a amateur development stream.



I see maxcoin went down that road and we see how that ended up. Not sure why every new dev is so open to forking coins by changing params. They were set for a reason and changing them would undermine what the whole projer stands for. No serious investor will everbuy into a coin with such a amateur development stream.I see maxcoin went down that road and we see how that ended up.

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NewbieActivity: 59Merit: 0 Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 06:17:04 PM #15294 Our biggest issue is transparency. Mintcointeam claims that he's got "Big stuff comming" and everyone is patiently waiting for something to happen. A lot of grand announcements, but nothing to show for it so far. If the dev would share some of the progress beeing made, it would comfort the community and encourage people to keep mining/buying instead of trading their MINT for other coins. I sold about one third of my investment a few weeks ago because there are lots of other, more interesting coins out there with actual development in progress.



I'm not saying nothing is beeing made behind the scenes with Mint, but unless we see some progress, the majority of this community will be gone by a few months. Mint is still a great coins with lots of potential. Let's not throw that away...

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Independantly on my own opinion on the Coup d'État, it, I value freedom of speech enough to be upset by this. So, if anyone has a copy of it, please PM and I will paste it here.

I noticed that http://www.reddit.com/r/MintCoin/comments/27gxu5/mintcoin_coup_d%A9tat/ have been deleted. I don't know who did this, but I know it is not cryptomommy. So someone is abusing moderator role. I find it unexcusable, whoever this person is. This remind us why it matters so much that the Mintcoin thread is not self-moderated.Independantly on my own opinion on the Coup d'État, it, I value freedom of speech enough to be upset by this. So, if anyone has a copy of it, please PM and I will paste it here.

I did, and I demodded two of the moderators that helped this to come back! I know it's not that democratic but I'm extremely busy at the moment and couldn't handle the flow of comments it will generate/actions that could ensue from that. I apologize for that, but what the hell would you expect when you post something like this? ...Snip I did, and I demodded two of the moderators that helped this to come back! I know it's not that democratic but I'm extremely busy at the moment and couldn't handle the flow of comments it will generate/actions that could ensue from that. I apologize for that, but what the hell would you expect when you post something like this?

No mintcointeam. No.



Being busy is not an excuse. You apparently have enough time to resort to these tactics. You could have just let it go if you are so "busy". You know perfectly well that deleting posts will only generate more comments. As for "wrong information", you could have just replied to them, like a responsable person (or group of persons) does. On monero, this is what we do:



I don't buy the "extremely busy". You "extremely don't give a fuck" and being busy is an excuse. Several times I asked about the premine. Only after around 5 repeated questions I got an (very incomplete) answer and only because I threatened to reveal some things about you.

(by the way, readers, do you want me to tell the truth about the premine? - no, it is not what you think, whatever you may think )



Mintcoin Fund is on its way (I was supposed to send the corrected documents today but the post office is closed today, because of Pentecost - bummer). But I won't fund it without a reliable development team. I use "development team" on purpose. I'm sick and tired of the "anonymity" and "being busy" excuses. I work daily and in a much more intensive way with people who are are dead serious on anonymity (and impressively good at it) and they don't let it be an excuse for doing nothing. And they are very busy too and still they do an awesome amount of work.

If the Mintcoin Fund is not funded, I will send you back the 5 millions MINT you sent me for this. Because I did not use a single one of them yet (I should pay back myself for the register letter and the stamps, though). Because I am transparent and people know it - what are the addresses of the premine? . I don't hide behind "I am busy". If I say something, I deliver. If I cannot anymore, see rule #5 of FOSS (below)



I've been among your greatest supporters. Several times these months, I did not say everything I knew because I thought it would be detrimental to the coin.

Now I think YOU are detrimental to the coin. Look at karmacoin, grumpycoin, asiacoin, saturncoin, bottlecaps... A coin with a great community can make it.



Let me remind you rule #5 of open source software: "When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand it off to a competent successor."



There is nothing shameful about not having time to work on a coin. But there IS something shameful about refusing to let it go and take a whole community as a hostage. Especially with the tactics you are using.



I'll tell you something: I met someone using these kinds of tactics before. He was my former boss.

I quit and I funded



I am calling everyone who want Mintcoin to be something to act now. Stop being sheeps, waiting for something to happen, waiting for "the dev" to do something. Are you children or are you grown-ups? Do you need someone to change your diapers? Send Mintcoins to the Sonoma project, contact your dev friends about the wallet, propose crowdfunding, communication. Lend some legal expertise on NGO... Stop whining or looking at the chart. Look at Freicoin, do they complain do they look daily at the price?



Success is not given, it is deserved. And you, dev, legitimacy is not given, it is deserved.



But I don't expect you to answer. You are probably "extremely busy".

No mintcointeam. No.Being busy is not an excuse. You apparently have enough time to resort to these tactics. You could have just let it go if you are so "busy". You know perfectly well that deleting posts will only generate more comments. As for "wrong information", you could have just replied to them, like a responsable person (or group of persons) does. On monero, this is what we do: short, precise answers . Does not take much time and people can just extrapolate on that. And guess what? They like it, it shows that we focus on what really matters.I don't buy the "extremely busy". You "extremely don't give a fuck" and being busy is an excuse. Several times I asked about the premine. Only after around 5 repeated questions I got an (very incomplete) answer and only because I threatened to reveal some things about you.(by the way, readers, do you want me to tell the truth about the premine? - no, it is not what you think, whatever you may thinkMintcoin Fund is on its way (I was supposed to send the corrected documents today but the post office is closed today, because of Pentecost - bummer). But I won't fund it without a reliable development team. I use "development team" on purpose. I'm sick and tired of the "anonymity" and "being busy" excuses. I work daily and in a much more intensive way with people who are are dead serious on anonymity (and impressively good at it) and they don't let it be an excuse for doing nothing. And they are very busy too and still they do an awesome amount of work.If the Mintcoin Fund is not funded, I will send you back the 5 millions MINT you sent me for this. Because I did not use a single one of them yet (I should pay back myself for the register letter and the stamps, though). Because I am transparent and people know it - what are the addresses of the premine? . I don't hide behind "I am busy". If I say something, I deliver. If I cannot anymore, see rule #5 of FOSS (below)I've been among your greatest supporters. Several times these months, I did not say everything I knew because I thought it would be detrimental to the coin.Now I think YOU are detrimental to the coin. Look at karmacoin, grumpycoin, asiacoin, saturncoin, bottlecaps... A coin with a great community can make it.Let me remind you rule #5 of open source software: "When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand it off to a competent successor."There is nothing shameful about not having time to work on a coin. But there IS something shameful about refusing to let it go and take a whole community as a hostage. Especially with the tactics you are using.I'll tell you something: I met someone using these kinds of tactics before. He was my former boss.I quit and I funded a company doing the exact same thing as him but in a fair way. Guess what: most of the teammates left with me and we attracted more and more people who could just not stand these tactics anymore. Granted, it took time and we endured pain, but now we are signing international contracts and extending every year. We are a real team, helping each other, communicating a lot on a daily basis and this, for years. Him? Well he keeps deleting posts on his forum I am calling everyone who want Mintcoin to be something to act now. Stop being sheeps, waiting for something to happen, waiting for "the dev" to do something. Are you children or are you grown-ups? Do you need someone to change your diapers? Send Mintcoins to the Sonoma project, contact your dev friends about the wallet, propose crowdfunding, communication. Lend some legal expertise on NGO... Stop whining or looking at the chart. Look at Freicoin, do they complain do they look daily at the price?Success is not given, it is deserved. And you, dev, legitimacy is not given, it is deserved.But I don't expect you to answer. You are probably "extremely busy".

@David: I agree with you, and understand your passion about it. (And the French are indeed known for their passion! )



Quote from: Kergekoin on June 09, 2014, 05:26:45 PM No, forking to make this coin to behave differently is a very bad idea. Mintcoin stats are fine and theres absolutely no need to change them. ...Snip

I agree - forking is a no-no, that will undermine the original intent of the coin, and breed distrust, due to being "wishy-washy". It should continue as-is.



Quote from: Kergekoin on June 09, 2014, 05:26:45 PM There are talk of the takeover, but this can only happen if dev is willing to give the premine to the new team. This is extremely unlikely to happen in my opinion.

Personally, I am against any takeover of this coin at this time. I know that things seem kind of stagnant at present, but I do believe that there are things happening behind the scenes. I too would like to know more, but currently, I feel that the dev(s) are still working on things. Thus I also believe they want this coin to be a success, so that they can reap the rewards. I do not think that any premine was dumped, and still think things are on the "up-and-up". Though I must say, I really wish more information about the what's and whatfor's were a bit more forthcoming.



Quote from: lecristoph on June 09, 2014, 06:17:04 PM Our biggest issue is transparency. Mintcointeam claims that he's got "Big stuff comming" and everyone is patiently waiting for something to happen. A lot of grand announcements, but nothing to show for it so far. If the dev would share some of the progress beeing made, it would comfort the community and encourage people to keep mining/buying instead of trading their MINT for other coins. I sold about one third of my investment a few weeks ago because there are lots of other, more interesting coins out there with actual development in progress.

Yes. Yes. Yes.



Quote I'm not saying nothing is beeing made behind the scenes with Mint, but unless we see some progress, the majority of this community will be gone by a few months. Mint is still a great coins with lots of potential. Let's not throw that away...



^^This. In spades. It IS a great coin, and as long as we continue to care, it will not fade in to the cavernous black hole that most other cryptos get sucked into. @David: I agree with you, and understand your passion about it. (And the French are indeed known for their passion!I agree - forking is a no-no, that will undermine the original intent of the coin, and breed distrust, due to being. It should continue as-is.Personally, I am against anyof this coin at this time. I know that things seem kind of stagnant at present, but I do believe that there are things happening behind the scenes. I too would like to know more, but currently, I feel that the dev(s) are still working on things. Thus I also believe they want this coin to be a success, so that they can reap the rewards. I do not think that any premine was dumped, and still think things are on the "up-and-up". Though I must say, I really wish more information about the what's and whatfor's were a bit more forthcoming.Yes. Yes. Yes.^^This.. Ita great coin, and as long as we continue to care, it will not fade in to the cavernous black hole that most other cryptos get sucked into.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 357Merit: 250 Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *59 Merchants June 09, 2014, 07:29:40 PM #15299 While I agree with a lot that has been discussed here. I'm going to have to side with the mintcointeam devs on this one...I'm with the "mintcointeam" on this issue, and actions. The coin is fine, does not need a fork, does not need to have a coup or takeover. Talk of taking over the coin just needs to be stopped as it is totally unnecessary, and reflects very badly, imo. I think that in general there are a lot of people who are just way too impatient. Not everyone is dissatisfied with the way things are going. I think that the people who are satisfied tend to be more vocal about it, but I for one am quite satisfied, even though I am aware of these concerns some people have.



Some of you may bash me, but I think the developer is in the right on this one. Bickering, griping, complaining, division, is not the way forward. Just let the dev has his premined coins, what is the big deal? It is not that significant overall. I think this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.



+1 to the mintcointeam / devs. Keep up the great work! Stop Mining. Start Minting. Mintcoin [MINT]

5% annual minting reward. Mintcoins don't wear out like mining gear. They keep on minting!