PVJ Profile Blog Joined July 2012 Hungary 4790 Posts #121 It's a travesty, really. The ajae and KCM leagues are nice competitions but I'm longing for some grander tourneys. The heart's eternal vow

TheNewEra Profile Joined March 2011 Germany 2328 Posts Last Edited: 2017-06-29 17:45:06 #122 On June 30 2017 01:31 outscar wrote:

Buck Flizzard, sigh... They just need to stick with 1.16, do they need confirmation from Blizz for that? Even Sonic has been doing his leagues with more than 5k without problem before his company grew, what is this travesty. I like how in SC2 after GSL ends next season starts almost immediately but here we need to wait like months for nothing.

They don't need confirmation for 1.16 itself. But they need confirmation for tournaments exceeding a certain amount of prize pool. ATB2 will certainly do so. So now Blizzard could say: Your tournament is big so you need permission and if you don't use 1.18 you will not get it.



I'm not entirely sure how it works but past tournaments in SC2 have shown that tournaments with low or no prizepool don't need Blizz permission (or is it that Blizz doesn't care about small tournaments and just don't bother to 'sanction' them).



They don't need confirmation for 1.16 itself. But they need confirmation for tournaments exceeding a certain amount of prize pool. ATB2 will certainly do so. So now Blizzard could say: Your tournament is big so you need permission and if you don't use 1.18 you will not get it.I'm not entirely sure how it works but past tournaments in SC2 have shown that tournaments with low or no prizepool don't need Blizz permission (or is it that Blizz doesn't care about small tournaments and just don't bother to 'sanction' them). Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland

Lorch Profile Joined June 2011 Germany 3511 Posts #123 God I miss the days when devs didn't give a shit about eSports. Ever since it has turned into a giant marketing campaign shit like this has been happening. Blizz didn't care much for most of Brood War's life time, and now orgs need their permission? We have known that this'll happen for what, 6 weeks? That means that Afreeca has been planning it for 2+ months, I doubt that they only tried to contact Blizzard now. Rather than shoving their bugged patch down peoples throat they should focus on making sure that remastered plays exactly like the original and be glad that companies like Afreeca are willing to throw tourneys in the first place after what happened between Blizz and Kespa/OGN/MBC.

Kinda reminds me of how a Sonic League (finals?) almost didn't happen because Blizzard suddenly figured that after like 8 seasons they'd also like to have a piece.

/rant



I just really hope that this can be resolved and ATB Season 2 can start ASAP, really miss my dose of offline BW.

Stax736 Profile Joined February 2017 United States 119 Posts Last Edited: 2017-06-29 18:49:18 #124 Why does Afreeca need permission from Blizzard to setup this tournament when SC1 is now free? By.Movie hwaiting

supernovamaniac Profile Blog Joined December 2009 United States 3003 Posts #125 My guess is it has to do something with Remaster, maybe the release is around the corner? ppp

heluq Profile Joined October 2014 Spain 112 Posts #126



http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/community-competition-license.html

This is the authoraty information about blizzard.

]343[ Profile Blog Joined May 2008 United States 10320 Posts Last Edited: 2017-06-29 21:53:56 #127 blizzard please just say "ok" Writer

Lebesgue Profile Joined October 2008 4541 Posts Last Edited: 2017-06-30 03:05:18 #128 On June 30 2017 04:27 supernovamaniac wrote:

My guess is it has to do something with Remaster, maybe the release is around the corner?



In other thread it says that the Remaster will be released on August 14th. So there is still month and a half.

In other thread it says that the Remaster will be released on August 14th. So there is still month and a half.

L_Master Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 7831 Posts #129 Are there any tentative dates yet for ASL4? EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48887 Posts #130 after remastered gets released, so after 8/15. Commentator Twitter: @GTR1H

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K.H.J Profile Blog Joined January 2017 Korea (South) 769 Posts Last Edited: 2017-06-30 05:27:22 #131 On June 30 2017 14:18 GTR wrote:

after remastered gets released, so after 8/15.



Remastered will be released 7/30 in korea.(only PC bang)



But well, ATB doesnt start until now, so maybe September? Remastered will be released 7/30 in korea.(only PC bang)But well, ATB doesnt start until now, so maybe September?

lestye Profile Joined August 2010 United States 3182 Posts Last Edited: 2017-06-30 06:29:03 #132 On June 30 2017 01:31 outscar wrote:

Buck Flizzard, sigh... They just need to stick with 1.16, do they need confirmation from Blizz for that? Even Sonic has been doing his leagues with more than 5k without problem before his company grew, what is this travesty. I like how in SC2 after GSL ends next season starts almost immediately but here we need to wait like months for nothing.

Yes, they'd need permission.



Yes, they'd need permission. On June 30 2017 03:48 Stax736 wrote:

Why does Afreeca need permission from Blizzard to setup this tournament when SC1 is now free?

Because they have to get a tournament license to broadcast and run the tournament.





Because they have to get a tournament license to broadcast and run the tournament. On June 29 2017 12:05 BigFan wrote:

I have no clue what blizzard is thinking but this is a terrible move on their part! They aren't even being asked to provide any money, just a simple confirmation! They better not be trying to hold any and all tourneys till remastered is out, that would be complete bs on their part.



On another note, if they lower the prize pool below the $5k, atb should be able to run without their confirmation. Isn't that right? Hope they consider that route seeing as their plans are destroyed.

It's not just the prizepool its 10k for " prizes, prize money, salaries, travel and accommodation stipends or reimbursements, and appearance fees paid by organizers and sponsors to the players, teams and team owners, for participating in the competition "



But thats pointless because "not exceed Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000 USD) or the equivalent for all of the events organized or hosted by you during the last 12 months pursuant to this Community Competition License;" so they'd need a license no matter what as I'm sure with the individual leagues they're way over that threshold. It's not just the prizepool its 10k for " prizes, prize money, salaries, travel and accommodation stipends or reimbursements, and appearance fees paid by organizers and sponsors to the players, teams and team owners, for participating in the competition "But thats pointless because "not exceed Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000 USD) or the equivalent for all of the events organized or hosted by you during the last 12 months pursuant to this Community Competition License;" so they'd need a license no matter what as I'm sure with the individual leagues they're way over that threshold. "You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood

L_Master Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 7831 Posts #133 On June 30 2017 14:26 K.H.J wrote:

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On June 30 2017 14:18 GTR wrote:

after remastered gets released, so after 8/15.



Remastered will be released 7/30 in korea.(only PC bang)



But well, ATB doesnt start until now, so maybe September? Remastered will be released 7/30 in korea.(only PC bang)But well, ATB doesnt start until now, so maybe September?



And it's usually about what, 2 months till the final?



Curious mostly because I want to organize a larger statewide/regional SC: R LAN, and think it would be nice to combine that with an ASL finals viewing party. I realize I can't get exact dates, but knowing I'm dealing with October vs December is certainly nice! And it's usually about what, 2 months till the final?Curious mostly because I want to organize a larger statewide/regional SC: R LAN, and think it would be nice to combine that with an ASL finals viewing party. I realize I can't get exact dates, but knowing I'm dealing with October vs December is certainly nice! EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!

K.H.J Profile Blog Joined January 2017 Korea (South) 769 Posts Last Edited: 2017-07-02 16:17:44 #134



CEO also cant understand this situatuon and do apologize to viewers.



Only one thing we can do is just waiting... CEO also cant understand this situatuon and do apologize to viewers.Only one thing we can do is just waiting...

PVJ Profile Blog Joined July 2012 Hungary 4790 Posts #135 He has to write longer and longer posts The heart's eternal vow

L_Master Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 7831 Posts #136 So right now we're really thinking Blizzard is going to make everybody wait at least 4 weeks for release in PC Bangs before ATB2 can start?



Obnoxious move. EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!

outscar Profile Joined September 2014 1961 Posts #137 On July 06 2017 05:11 L_Master wrote:

So right now we're really thinking Blizzard is going to make everybody wait at least 4 weeks for release in PC Bangs before ATB2 can start?



Obnoxious move.



Yeah, really sucks. It could have been a lot better if they didn't touch ATB and start ASL4 with Remastered, until release ATB could've ended. Yeah, really sucks. It could have been a lot better if they didn't touch ATB and start ASL4 with Remastered, until release ATB could've ended. sunbeams are never made like me...

BigFan Profile Blog Joined December 2010 TLADT 24439 Posts #138 On July 06 2017 05:11 L_Master wrote:

So right now we're really thinking Blizzard is going to make everybody wait at least 4 weeks for release in PC Bangs before ATB2 can start?



Obnoxious move.

Looks this way. Terrible move by Blizzard, extremely disappointing. Looks this way. Terrible move by Blizzard, extremely disappointing. Former BW EiC "Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017

gngfn Profile Joined January 2009 United States 1726 Posts #139 i can't believe this company run by the exact same people with the exact same ruthless profit motive hasn't turned over a new leaf

K.H.J Profile Blog Joined January 2017 Korea (South) 769 Posts #140 Official news.

ATB S2 is cancelled.

Blizzard reject to approve ATB.

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