But how would that serve Pyrrha as a character in her own right? On its own, the whole "spirit talking to them" deal tends to be for Mentors from beyond, such as Kenobi. That implies that she has information that they don't really have, and Qrow not only IS an archetypal Mentor figure (and Pyrrha never was), he's likely got all that info. And if we're only doing it to pay homage to Joan of Arc, well, that clearly is for Jaune's benefit and not Pyrrha's. It's just one more use of her as support for someone else.



No....I do think that she's in someone else, but it's not Jaune. It's CINDER. I find her OOC reactions to Tyrian's meltdown VERY interesting, but the idea that it's her realizing what she's truly gotten herself into doesn't really fly with me. That implies that there is something to be gained by a sympathetic narrative for her, and the bitch not only shot up a school in a bid for personal power, she did so with a smile on her face, a sound mind, and nothing shown to us prior to said school shooting that spoke of any sympathetic element of her. Quite frankly, if RT knows anything about writing, they'd realize that trying the sympathetic route with Cinder is a narrative suicide by this point. So, if it's not that, then what is it? Again, her acts have solidly lumped her into this den of mayhem, so why's she surprised?



Next, two things Salem said to her little Legion of Doom jump out at me: the claim that the Maidens are vulnerable to the Silver Eyes, and the claim that Cinder killed Ozpin. Let's start with the latter claim. First, she said that to them as an absolute statement, but then we see her questioning Cinder if she actually did the job, revealing that she's willing to tell her Legion something she herself doesn't know is truthful at minimum, outright lie to them at worst. So....now we go to the former. Since we now KNOW that she will say things to them that may not be truthful, what do we make of this claim? Is she lying about the Maiden weakness to the Eyes or not? We don't have precedent for it, but what we DO know is that CInder's theft of part of the Fall involved a Grimm, and we know that the Grimm ARE weak to the Eyes.



Now, I should have mentioned that there was a third thing Salem said that jumped out at me, but this was said to Cinder during their little training segment: "Make IT fear you." What is "it"? Now, if Cinder really DOES still have the Grimm she used to steal part of the Fall, then it would make sense that THAT is why Cinder is weak to the Eyes, and not an inherent thing of the Maiden powers themselves, and thus that is what Salem refers to as "it". This DOES assume that Salem is in fact lying about said inherent Silver Eyes weakness. However, if she IS telling the truth, and there is no Grimm inside Cinder (the idea that it houses the part of the Fall that was stolen)....then what is "it"? While it's not hard evidence, Salem's characterization is something to take into account, and she is definitely the type to dehumanize an individual by referring to him or her as "it".



Finally, the eyepatch Cinder is wearing is of the type that covers the eye socket completely, and doesn't leave any sort of indicator of what is actually underneath (no indentation of a prosthetic, nor a depression of an empty eye socket). In terms of computer graphics, this means that they do not need to physically code anything under the eyepatch, and we are certainly meant to think that the eye was part of the damage sustained. What if the eyepatch is not hiding the lack of an eye....but the presence of a GREEN eye?



Take into account that both Cinder and Pyrrha underwent a transfer of the Fall that was unnatural, and we DO know that Pyrrha DID feel the effects of said transfer, the screaming in pain is proof enough of that. In addition, both of them were exposed to the Silver Eyes (technically, at least). Who the hell knows what that did to Pyrrha and Cinder?