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The following chat happened on ##mtgox-talk IRC channel on April 22nd, 2014 UTC+7

I, Aditya Suseno (a.k.a) SuSEno, PGP Signed this Chatlog

(04:17:17 AM) Shaded: Someone requested a representative from SaveGox join this channel

(04:17:30 AM) Shaded: Do you guys have any questions on what SaveGox/Sunlot is trying to do?

(04:17:33 AM) Aquent: ahh good to have you here

(04:17:40 AM) Aquent: wan to introduce yourself?

(04:17:48 AM) Shaded: Sure thing, my name is Jon Holmquist

(04:18:10 AM) Shaded: I'm a long time bitcoiner, and I started a community event called Bitcoin Black Friday in 2012

(06:08:34 AM) brokenmusic: anarchystar: what do you think about savegox.com?

(06:09:06 AM) anarchystar: done by gox insiders, they probably traded a shitload of coins after feb 7th and want to get away with it

(06:09:17 AM) anarchystar: under bankruptcy its very possible the clock will be reset to feb 7th

(06:09:37 AM) anarchystar: if they worked together with mark after feb 7th, they got bitcoins at below $100

(06:10:00 AM) anarchystar: also they were working on a secret backend deal with mark for the last weeks until mark fucked them over

(06:10:06 AM) anarchystar: story of my life

(06:10:28 AM) anarchystar: ive asked them questions which they refused to answer

(06:12:35 AM) anarchystar: the next big hot topic will be insider trading after feb 7th and if the clock should be reset or not to feb 7th (like requested in US bankruptcy)

(06:12:39 AM) anarchystar: noone focused on that yet

(06:14:27 AM) brokenmusic: well, I'd argue it shouldn't be reset, since all other exchanges crashed as well and also because it is unfair to those who weren't insiders, but still made some coins on the crash

(06:15:15 AM) anarchystar: i can predict now that that will be the biggest debate and battle ever

(06:15:27 AM) brokenmusic: yep

(06:15:34 AM) brokenmusic: what's your position?

(06:16:03 AM) anarchystar: probably on feb 7th, but everyone has to decide individually

(06:16:32 AM) anarchystar: it will also suck big time for bitcoinbuilder users

(06:16:47 AM) anarchystar: cause if we get reset to feb 7th they loose everything

(06:42:42 AM) reb0rn: thats why bailout is best option

(06:42:53 AM) reb0rn: real one :P

(06:42:56 AM) anarchystar: bailout by insiders?

(06:43:00 AM) reb0rn: no

(06:43:04 AM) reb0rn: I agree

(06:43:23 AM) Aquent: how do you know they insiders? what does insiders even mean

(06:43:31 AM) reb0rn: I eman i don`t mind mark k. if he find 200K BTC+ or 100M $ or so :P

(06:43:34 AM) anarchystar: trust me, they are insiders

(06:43:35 AM) anarchystar: i know

(07:00:12 AM) anarchystar: also the one where it says they want to leech mtgox's cash accounts to built their exchange without investing anything

(07:00:19 AM) anarchystar: build*

(07:01:29 AM) Shaded: anarchystar: We're investing plenty.

(07:01:57 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: i dont see that anywhere

(07:02:46 AM) Shaded: We're not touching any of the coins for operating costs, settling claims, audits, or administration.

(07:02:54 AM) Shaded: Which means we're putting money in.

(07:03:12 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: so what exactly are you investing?

(07:03:19 AM) Shaded: Time, expertise, and money.

(07:03:23 AM) anarchystar: money

(07:03:28 AM) anarchystar: lets talk about money

(07:03:30 AM) anarchystar: fuck time and expertise

(07:03:34 AM) anarchystar: i have plenty of that

(07:03:40 AM) Shaded: Oh, you want someone to pay all of your money to you?

(07:03:48 AM) Shaded: You want me to cut you a check for all the money you lost?

(07:03:51 AM) Shaded: Good lucky bud.

(07:03:55 AM) Shaded: luck*

(07:03:57 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: no?

(07:04:06 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: im asking what amount you are investing

(07:04:18 AM) Shaded: Two options, go through liqudiation, you'll see your coins back in years.

(07:04:30 AM) anarchystar: thats not my question

(07:04:49 AM) Shaded: Go through rehabilitation and see it back faster and with less legal fees

(07:04:53 AM) Shaded: What is your question?

(07:05:01 AM) anarchystar: <anarchystar> Shaded: im asking what amount you are investing

(07:05:05 AM) anarchystar: $$

(07:05:12 AM) Shaded: You'll hear more news on that later this week

(07:05:17 AM) anarchystar: lol

(07:05:20 AM) Shaded: I'm not allowed to give you a straight number

(07:07:09 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: why are you holding our 200k hostage for a year?

(07:07:19 AM) Shaded: Anarchy: 1 year is better than 10.

(07:07:31 AM) Shaded: My assumption here is to wait for the audit

(07:07:33 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: dont you think we suffered enough? you want to hold it hostage for 1 reason

(07:07:38 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: tell me why

(07:07:39 AM) Shaded: I can ask specifically if you'd like

(07:08:12 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: i know why.. you want to force people to trade on your exchange while they wait

(07:08:34 AM) Shaded: anarchystar: I doubt we'll force anyone to use our exchange

(07:08:37 AM) Shaded: This is a goodwill project

(07:08:41 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: then dont hold the 200k btc

(07:08:43 AM) Shaded: Not an enslavement

(07:08:49 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: give me 1 good reason to hold that 200k

(07:08:56 AM) Shaded: The audit.

(07:09:02 AM) Shaded: Figuring out who is owed what.

(07:09:05 AM) Shaded: Reaching out to them

(07:09:09 AM) Shaded: Getting information.

(07:09:23 AM) anarchystar: oh i guess we will have to trust you

(07:09:25 AM) anarchystar: :D

(07:09:29 AM) Shaded: Have another option?

(07:12:21 AM) Shaded: Again, if anyone has any other options past Liquidation or SaveGox

(07:12:23 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: sorry but i dont trust gox insiders that were closely connected to mark to perform any audit

(07:12:25 AM) Shaded: Please, let me know

(07:12:40 AM) Shaded: Oh, so you trust a random japanese court to handle your money for you?

(07:12:45 AM) anarchystar: especially not a security audit

(07:12:52 AM) Shaded: anarchystar: Let me know how the Bitcoinica lawsuit goes too

(07:13:00 AM) anarchystar: yes, i trust the police and assigned inspectors more

(07:13:18 AM) Shaded: For the criminal suit, I agree

(07:13:28 AM) Shaded: For repaying the Bitcoin Community, no.

(07:13:35 AM) Shaded: Courts cost money. Courts cost time.

(07:13:57 AM) Shaded: Sunlot/Brock have promised your coins back, without taking any expenses, at a max of a year.

(07:14:05 AM) anarchystar: Shaded: i think your endgame is to get rid of that 7th feb scenario and you had insider info, and gained a huge amount of btc after the 7th

(07:14:25 AM) Shaded: I've been off of Gox since early 2013

(07:14:31 AM) Shaded: We've been through my personal story already

(07:14:32 AM) anarchystar: im not talking just about you

(07:14:39 AM) anarchystar: anyone involved in this

(07:14:41 AM) Shaded: Brock has said he has no coins.

(07:14:43 AM) anarchystar: i dont trust it at all

(07:15:09 AM) anarchystar: what are all your connections to mark? all people involved i mean

(07:15:19 AM) Shaded: I hit him up on IRC like once or twice?

(07:15:36 AM) anarchystar: John Betts

(07:15:37 AM) anarchystar: Brock Pierce

(07:15:37 AM) anarchystar: William Quigley

(07:15:37 AM) anarchystar: Matthew Roszak

(07:15:46 AM) anarchystar: who are you anyway?

(07:15:59 AM) Shaded: Mainly friends of Brock, he's the main one behind the project

(07:16:44 AM) Shaded: Anarchy, I'm not going to continue enabling your paranoia.

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