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LegendaryActivity: 3192Merit: 1730Viva Ut Vivas Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 21, 2014, 07:58:15 AM #1 Quote The PASCAZI Retaliation, fighting opportunists worldwide and why we applied for the Bitcoin trademark.



TOKYO, JAPAN - October 14, 2011 - As the owner of the largest Bitcoin trading platform, Mt.Gox, we at Tibanne K.K feel obliged to step up and oppose opportunists around the world from trademarking the concept and term Bitcoin, which would severely limit the ability of those in the Bitcoin community to freely enjoy and use our beloved Crypto-currency.



As some in the community may be aware, back in July Michael Pascazi, a law attorney in upstate New York started to file for ownership of the Bitcoin trademark. This took place not only in the US but in other key countries like France and Japan where trademark laws favour the party who is first-to-file, rather than the first actual user of the term.



While Michael Pascazi apparently acquiesced in his attempt to trademark Bitcoin in the U.S. (thanks to a stricter first-to-use trademarking system), he has since submitted a claim in France through his wife Celine Mouchon Pascazi, where Pascazi has far stronger legal standing as the first entity to apply.



In reaction, we at Tibanne K.K in Japan have started legal proceedings in the hopes of opposing this filing in France, at a European level as well as in in other countries across the world.



The Pascazis' stated intention is to profit from these trademarks, which would hamper Bitcoin enthusiasts, businesses and the community as a whole on a global basis in the free use and promotion of Bitcoin. Tibanne K.K will oppose this and any other "greed based" trademark application, in order to prevent self-serving attempts to profit from Bitcoin through spurious legal suits, and keep the term Bitcoin free for all.



We would like to use this opportunity to formally announce that all trademarks related to the term Bitcoin filed for and obtained by Tibanne K.K will be made freely available to anyone to use for whatever purpose whatsoever, whether that be for non-profit or commercial endeavours.



We will keep you apprised on these matters as soon as updates become available.



Regards

Mt.Gox Co. Ltd Team. https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20111014.html



Trade Mark No. Mark Text File Date Status Nice Classes Vienna Classes Image Picking List

E10103646 BITCOIN 07/07/2011 Registered 09 35 38 42 No image exists for Trade Mark E10103646.

E10050466 bit coin 15/06/2011 Registered 09 38 41 Image for Trade Mark E10050466.



One is a word mark, one has an (ugly) picture.



Both registered to Tribanne:



Applicant:

Tibanne Co. Ltd.

Cerulean Tower 15F 26-1 Sakuragaoka-Cho, Shibuya Tokyo, Japan, 150-8512

Representative:

BAKER & MCKENZIE LLP

100 New Bridge Street, London, United Kingdom, EC4V 6JA

Trade Mark No. Mark Text File Date Status Nice Classes Vienna Classes Image Picking ListE10103646 BITCOIN 07/07/2011 Registered 09 35 38 42 No image exists for Trade Mark E10103646.E10050466 bit coin 15/06/2011 Registered 09 38 41 Image for Trade Mark E10050466.One is a word mark, one has an (ugly) picture.Both registered to Tribanne:Applicant:Tibanne Co. Ltd.Cerulean Tower 15F 26-1 Sakuragaoka-Cho, Shibuya Tokyo, Japan, 150-8512Representative:BAKER & MCKENZIE LLP100 New Bridge Street, London, United Kingdom, EC4V 6JA First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin.

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NewbieActivity: 28Merit: 0 Re: Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 21, 2014, 08:31:54 AM #4



Maybe it's time for another and more matured crypto currency to enter the stage.



I have no idea which one, but it appears that the Bitcoin is going to experience strong headwind in the future.

Bitcoin seems more and more deadMaybe it's time for another and more matured crypto currency to enter the stage.I have no idea which one, but it appears that the Bitcoin is going to experience strong headwind in the future.

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LegendaryActivity: 1666Merit: 1036Learning the troll avoidance button :) Re: Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 21, 2014, 08:38:32 AM #7 Quote from: bananas on February 21, 2014, 08:34:08 AM i may be wrong, but i don't think he can claim it even if already registered 'cause it was already a very well known brand. It is like registering the word internet in 1992.



That license has value but as far as I'm concerned its a free license if they start charging for it then this issue will get complicated quickly, although I am pretty sure the word itself does fall into general usage and may not be considered trademark-able.



https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20111014.html

We would like to use this opportunity to formally announce that all trademarks related to the term Bitcoin filed for and obtained by Tibanne K.K will be made freely available to anyone to use for whatever purpose whatsoever, whether that be for non-profit or commercial endeavours.



We will keep you apprised on these matters as soon as updates become available.



Regards

Mt.Gox Co. Ltd Team. That license has value but as far as I'm concerned its a free license if they start charging for it then this issue will get complicated quickly, although I am pretty sure the word itself does fall into general usage and may not be considered trademark-able.We would like to use this opportunity to formally announce that all trademarks related to the term Bitcoin filed for and obtained by Tibanne K.K will be made freely available to anyone to use for whatever purpose whatsoever, whether that be for non-profit or commercial endeavours.We will keep you apprised on these matters as soon as updates become available.RegardsMt.Gox Co. Ltd Team.

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DonatorLegendaryActivity: 980Merit: 1001felonious vagrancy, personified Re: Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 21, 2014, 08:42:37 AM #8 Quote from: Elwar on February 21, 2014, 08:00:33 AM If MtGox goes bankrupt...the Bitcoin trademark would be put up for sale to the highest bidder.



Not sure about the UK, but in the US if people infringe on your trademark and you don't even make an effort to sue them, you lose the trademark. There also has to be a reasonable generic name for the product in question, and the trademark owner has to use it to describe their product. This is why Kleenex says they are "facial tissues" and Xerox says they sell a "photocopier".



Mtgox hasn't sued anybody over use of the word "bitcoin", or even sent a threatening letter. I've never seen a generic term for BTC on their website or in any of their press releases.



Whatever trademark rights they might have had at some point in the past are totally void in the US by now. Not sure about the UK, but in the US if people infringe on your trademark and you don't even make an effort to sue them, you lose the trademark. There also has to be a reasonable generic name for the product in question, and the trademark owner has to use it to describe their product. This is why Kleenex says they are "facial tissues" and Xerox says they sell a "photocopier".Mtgox hasn't sued anybody over use of the word "bitcoin", or even sent a threatening letter. I've never seen a generic term for BTC on their website or in any of their press releases.Whatever trademark rights they might have had at some point in the past are totally void in the US by now. The printing press heralded the end of the Dark Ages and made the Enlightenment possible, but it took another three centuries before any country managed to put freedom of the press beyond the reach of legislators. So it may take a while before cryptocurrencies are free of the AML-NSA-KYC surveillance plague .

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Global ModeratorLegendaryActivity: 2478Merit: 1835Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW! Re: Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 22, 2014, 08:48:41 AM #9 Quote from: freedomno1 on February 21, 2014, 08:32:41 AM The protest feed just ended they are off to go get licensed



I think I read they did it to stop some guy registering it in a country where this law doesn't apply. But I think they should donate it or make sure it's free to use without being tied to them if anything goes wrong. I think I read they did it to stop some guy registering it in a country where this law doesn't apply. But I think they should donate it or make sure it's free to use without being tied to them if anything goes wrong.

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NewbieActivity: 6Merit: 0 Re: Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 22, 2014, 09:05:16 AM #10



I thought the Bitcoin logo was "released into the public domain by author" as stated at



I suppose that there may be different forms of the logo, but to me, the one referenced at Wikimedia Commons seems the most definitive.



@Bitcoinrealmth What am I missing?I thought the Bitcoin logo was "released into the public domain by author" as stated at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bitcoin.png I suppose that there may be different forms of the logo, but to me, the one referenced at Wikimedia Commons seems the most definitive.@Bitcoinrealmth

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Hero MemberActivity: 602Merit: 500 Re: Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 22, 2014, 11:03:25 AM #12 Counts as a asset so they will have to sell it off I doubt he'll be getting enough money to actually pay back it's users and I wouldn't want to help him and keep the bidding as low as possible. On a mission to make Bitcointalk.org Marketplace a safer place to Buy/Sell/Trade

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LegendaryActivity: 1302Merit: 1000 Re: Reminder: Mt Gox owns the Bitcoin trademark February 22, 2014, 01:56:52 PM #17 Quote from: Armis on February 22, 2014, 01:12:54 PM Quote from: Bitcoinpro on February 22, 2014, 12:30:21 PM Under the Crytocurrency Consitution, Crypto trademarks cannot be claimed by any individual or entity.







I know of the Cryptocurrency King, the cryptocurrency universe, and the cryptocurrency economy but I never heard of the Cryptocurrency Constitution?

I know of the Cryptocurrency King, the cryptocurrency universe, and the cryptocurrency economy but I never heard of the Cryptocurrency Constitution?

I made it about a year ago, just search it, haven't taken the draft copy off, but no one suggested changes so its the final copy now



have got a few digital copy's plus a framed one on the wall like it came out of an old Spanish galleon



on top of this I'm planning the Cryptocurrency Banking act though that's going to be some piece of work and will take a few months yet I made it about a year ago, just search it, haven't taken the draft copy off, but no one suggested changes so its the final copy nowhave got a few digital copy's plus a framed one on the wall like it came out of an old Spanish galleonon top of this I'm planning the Cryptocurrency Banking act though that's going to be some piece of work and will take a few months yet WWW.FACEBOOK.COM



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