smwatkin Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 399 Posts #2 Thanks for the spotlight Team Liquid!



We'll make this thread our new home base and continue to update. Look for new episodes every Tuesday!

Holcan Profile Joined April 2010 Canada 2589 Posts #3 ! Yay stoic content ! :D Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.

MaV_gGSC Profile Blog Joined November 2010 Canada 1306 Posts #4 :D stoic regret

Life's good :D

romelako Profile Blog Joined February 2011 United States 372 Posts #5



Please continue to do this! I posted in the other thread, but I just wanted to thank you guys for the amazing analysis you guys have provided with this videos. I can definitely say that these videos have helped me A LOT, and has allowed me to notice things that I would not normally notice in my games (even at Mid-masters).Please continue to do this!

quakerix Profile Joined May 2010 Netherlands 168 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-18 08:19:05 #6 Subscribed!



Ever since mrbitter quit his live coaching and 12weeks with the pro's and stuff i was missing out on some high lvl zerg stuff. e-Sports freelancer

Immaterial Profile Blog Joined September 2010 Canada 483 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-18 08:24:46 #7 Excellent videos. I've only watched two so far but they were both filled with tons of valuable insight. gg wp It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

nastyyy Profile Joined December 2009 United States 262 Posts #8 Hmm...I feel like I can learn from this. We'll see. one time

Phate4219 Profile Joined May 2011 United States 20 Posts #9 Awesome stuff keep it up. "...and above all else this, to thine own self be true." -William Shakespeare

Vortigan Profile Blog Joined November 2010 Denmark 306 Posts #10 great vids... why no spines in ZvP?

smwatkin Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 399 Posts #11 On January 18 2012 17:08 quakerix wrote:

Subscribed!



Ever since mrbitter quit his live coaching and 12weeks with the pro's and stuff i was missing out on some high lvl zerg stuff.



Mr. Bitter's contributions to the community were enourmous at the time, but I think what's he's doing now is more important for eSports. He is a regular face that people associate with the industry. The downfall: he simply doesn't have as much time as he used to. He is still contributing in a way that may not directly help individuals, but helps us all as a group!



We can only hope to put out some content that's as valuable as 12 weeks with the pros.



-Nuvo Mr. Bitter's contributions to the community were enourmous at the time, but I think what's he's doing now is more important for eSports. He is a regular face that people associate with the industry. The downfall: he simply doesn't have as much time as he used to. He is still contributing in a way that may not directly help individuals, but helps us all as a group!We can only hope to put out some content that's as valuable as 12 weeks with the pros.-Nuvo

smwatkin Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 399 Posts #12 On January 18 2012 20:17 Vortigan wrote:

great vids... why no spines in ZvP?



Spines are useful in certain situations, but in others you simply don't need to waste the resources. For example, in the game vs ZeNEXYong, David elected to get burrow instead of spines; you don't need to invest in both becaues one will suffice. His scouting indicated a ground army pressure.



It is also very map dependent. What I mean by that is, on large maps (like Tal'darim) where it will take a protoss army a long time to get across the map, spines are not necessary because you can get your required tech ready before the push arrives. On Xel'Naga caverns, which is a very small map, spines are not as useful as burrow because there are basically 3 entrances to the natural and several choke points which are good for Protoss.



A good time to use spines would be if you are teching to something that may take a little more econ. Example: infestor play. It's hard to get enough infestors with lings to hold off a 6-7 gate all in that's executed properly at the correct timing without spine crawlers. It is possible, however, to hold this off without spines if you stay on a tier one roach ling army with creep spread and a macro hatch. Spines are useful in certain situations, but in others you simply don't need to waste the resources. For example, in the game vs ZeNEXYong, David elected to getinstead of spines; you don't need to invest in both becaues one will suffice. His scouting indicated a ground army pressure.It is also very map dependent. What I mean by that is, on large maps (like Tal'darim) where it will take a protoss army a long time to get across the map, spines are not necessary because you can get your required tech ready before the push arrives. On Xel'Naga caverns, which is a very small map, spines are not as useful as burrow because there are basically 3 entrances to the natural and several choke points which are good for Protoss.A good time to use spines would be if you are teching to something that may take a little more econ. Example: infestor play. It's hard to get enough infestors with lings to hold off a 6-7 gate all in that's executed properly at the correct timing without spine crawlers. It is possible, however, to hold this off without spines if you stay on a tier one roach ling army with creep spread and a macro hatch.

Archas Profile Blog Joined July 2010 United States 6505 Posts #13 I expected something like a romantic dinner, followed by candles around a heart-shaped bed while you played SCII in skimpy lingerie.



But this works too. The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!

Xorphene Profile Joined January 2011 United Kingdom 491 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-18 15:16:43 #14 This is so many kinds of awesome. The mindset is amazing. Loving it.



edit: Could you upload the replays for parts 1-3 please? T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].

smwatkin Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 399 Posts #15 On January 19 2012 00:04 Xorphene wrote:

This is so many kinds of awesome. The mindset is amazing. Loving it.



edit: Could you upload the replays for parts 1-3 please?





No problem, I'll upload tonight after I get home from work. No problem, I'll upload tonight after I get home from work.

Northern_iight Profile Joined May 2011 Canada 363 Posts #16 these are very good. Thank you Stoic for making this videos

at the end of part 4 you guys mentioned past episodes are in vods. I'd just like to input that part 4 was well done on you tube and I think most people prefer that. So people can easily jump to the part with the match up they are looking for

GypsyBeast Profile Joined December 2010 Canada 630 Posts #17 killer guide man, really appreciate a Zerg guide thats not all about allining Ya? Well ill BM you harder! Another win in 10 seconds flat! -Rainbow Dash playing SC2.

tarpman Profile Joined February 2009 Canada 710 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-18 17:32:12 #18 Thanks for the videos! The ZvZ ones were especially useful for me in terms of scouting and what to look for... judging who is ahead and by how much in ZvZ is something I struggle with as well as when/how to transition safely to higher tech.



One thing is confusing me about the ZvP on Xel Naga: how does burrow allow you to defend that push? Five roaches is so few that I expected the protoss to just kill them without even thinking about it and move on to the drones... I was really surprised when he backed off after seeing burrow. Why didn't he just move forward and start attacking drones after the roaches burrowed?



edit: and if he had just moved forward instead of backing off, what could zerg have done about it? Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.

sonigo Profile Blog Joined January 2011 Switzerland 37 Posts #19 really informative vods, keep them coming! :D

smwatkin Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 399 Posts #20 On January 19 2012 01:47 Northern_iight wrote:

these are very good. Thank you Stoic for making this videos

at the end of part 4 you guys mentioned past episodes are in vods. I'd just like to input that part 4 was well done on you tube and I think most people prefer that. So people can easily jump to the part with the match up they are looking for



Youtube will be the format from now on. We get much better quality that way. Youtube will be the format from now on. We get much better quality that way.

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