Boogie2988, as he is known on YouTube, and Steven Jay Williams in the real world, is getting a divorce as announced December 13th just a few weeks ago according to Twitter. I’m titling this as an anecdote first, but also as a brief commentary on the broader picture – the effect that health strains, anxiety and a history of abuse has on a relationship.

Welcome back MGTOW men. Today I want to talk about something that really had a huge impact on me over the past week, and that’s the divorce of Boogie2988. For those of you who don’t know, Boogie2988 is a YouTube personality that has been posting here for about a decade. He’s one of the biggest video game voices on YouTube at 4 million subscribers. I found him in 2013 when I stumbled upon a fruit gushers review video in which he made a parody of a pre-existing video on YouTube under the name of Francis, which is his alternate character that he created for himself.

I used to be a gamer but have largely fallen off that wagon, but have followed him ever since because of his sincerity, simplicity and the discussions that he had about important topics – all underneath the umbrella of video games that brought many of us in.

Part of what drew the viewers in and brought more to find him as endearing was the fact that Boogie shared his experiences dealing with morbid obesity which later required gastric bypass surgery which took place this past summer. Boogie had a past in which he contemplated suicide as he dealt with an abusive mother, homelessness and other elements of depression that led to his anxiety, panic attacks and PTSD that he carried in to his adult years.

A man that once cursed marriage, which is recorded in some videos of his back in 2010, got married in 2013, stating it as the greatest thing that happened, to him contending that marriage is nothing more than a contract to not screw around. Funny how things change and it’s further proof that love is often cognitive dissonance.

Boogie, I don’t know if you’ll ever watch this. But, before I get into my analysis of what went down here, based on my limited understanding of the ins and outs of the marriage and applying to MGTOW, I want to say that I’ve enjoyed your stuff and don’t aim to call you out. I aim to look at this situation as another red pill warning, another reminder for us MGTOW as to why we go our own way as you can see that this has torn Boogie apart in different ways, inevitably – especially when you live a public marriage.

So, I’m going to read you guys a series of tweets to go along with each of my points for today’s videos, reflecting on a number of topics pertinent to us MGTOW men.

1) Love is once again cognitive dissonance and a situational emotional fixation



Love is the best thing on earth when you’re in it and either something that you absolutely can’t get your mind off of when you don’t have it, or it is the devil, something that is abhorrent and scary. Love has been both things for Boogie at one time in his life. I can distinctly remember going through Boogie’s old videos last year and watching his question and answer videos from 2008 and 2009 in which he was asked different questions regarding girlfriends and whether or not he could get married. Boogie replied that marriage was not for him and he didn’t quite understand the purpose of marriage and thus he would never get into a marital contract with a woman. That was a very red pill response at the time, and it was actually created by his past experiences with his parents and the abusive relationship that he had with his mother. Because, this response was fueled out of self-preservation, and for many of us MGTOW men, our choice to go red pill and to opt out of relationships and for many of us, marriage, is fueled out of the fear of abandonment, the fear of negative legal repercussions and the overall destruction of our lives at some time. So, I can understand this response.

He was also fielding questions from people that were actually posing questions that would be directed at those that are believed to be of those that are actually of the True Forced Loneliness clan. And I want to make a quick point, if Boogie is out there and he was clearly not in shape and hadn’t reached his YouTube prime and wasn’t bringing in the money, and he still gets married, and you want to argue and defend the scarcity argument that there aren’t enough girls out there that would marry you, then you’re off your rocker.

And then a woman comes along, Desiree, and she gives him value. She gives him a greater drive and a greater determination, you could see that. You could see that in the transformation of his channel, his Twitch streams – of everything. She replaced the lack of supportive and loving women in his life that he didn’t get as a child growing up.

But, then the excitement and love faded essentially. It just faded out and I’m sure that they both were burnt out in their own ways, and thus, love is not truly communicated through marriage like we initially thought. It was just something we believed in when we were in the middle of it.

Man, Boogie. I’ve been that guy. When I was dating my ex girlfriend, I was thinking about getting married to her at my ripe age of 22, I was that blue pill guy. I was like, wow, love really does exist. Yeah, things are not perfect, but you put that aside for the sake of sacrifice. You know what, that’s not what was at play, that was myself protecting me from the emotional and professional suicide that could have taken place if I had actually went through completely with that marriage and pursued it.

2) Because, people change their minds – dogs don’t

So, if you follow Boogie at all or have watched any of his content on YouTube, followed him on Twitter, whatever it may be, you’re going to notice that Sammy, his dog, is likely his most prized possession. That was supplanting the role of having a child in their eyes. What I’ve seen in people’s lives, and you see both men and women turned to animals after a breakup or a divorce because they know that emotions, that a dog can’t so no to them. A dog can’t turn around and walk out the door because you couldn’t run up a check or because you slightly fell out of shape or you didn’t take them out to nice dinners enough.

Whatever it is, you can’t have a pet fall out of love with you. The pet is going to be there, but what I saw during the relationship was this evolving. I saw that Sammy was providing this extra blanket of security of him. It’s far too common. The cat lady or the old man with his dog walking around with him, following him wherever he goes, all times of the day. Because, you can’t just fall out of love. It helps people deal with the feelings and anxieties of abandonment.

Hence, this next tweet:

We fell out of love.

What does that even mean. And, he says another key word – we can’t live with boring. If it is boring, it’s not worth our time. Ah man, school is boring. Working out is boring. Church is boring. Work is boring. It’s all boring so I’m just going to get divorced. I’m not saying that’s solely what happened Boogie, it’s just the product of the Snapchat world we live in. 10 seconds, maximum. You realize just how fickle our minds are these days?! Before, the only advertisement was a billboard that you passed once a day on the highway. Now you pass it 100 times a day. And you didn’t even choose to.

I’m sorry Boogie, not slamming you here, this is just the nature of our minds, that’s the nature of our hearts. Go MGTOW. There is a tweet posted on his Twitter feed yesterday that encapsulates this:

“Someone said to me: ‘your bachelor party is just one night but your divorce party lasts forever. I don’t know if it was meant to be but that was the saddest thing I have ever heard.”

3) Circumstances like anxiety, PTSD and morbid obesity can’t be ignored when you get into relationships

So, as I mentioned, this past summer, Boogie had gastric bypass surgery this past summer. I believe that there is a statistic that has been floating around that 85 percent of people that are in relationships that have this type of surgery end up splitting up. Not only is the stress of just making it through the surgery difficult to stomach and handle, but the stress of following through with the diet that is required of you in order to maintain your health and stay alive, is enough to push any couple over the edge.

Furthermore, not only was his weight a constant struggle that he had been carrying throughout his life and throughout his entire YouTube career, Boogie had been dealing with constant emotional distress created by his abusive mother and the strife he had grown up with.

He dealt with a mother that would beat him up daily, that had bitten him, that had beaten him close to the point of death, that would neglect him, that had burned him with cigarettes and that actually had forced him to jump out of a moving car at one point in order to save himself from whatever was going on. I also believe that his father died at a young age.

He was a college dropout, had no home, so moved to Arkansas where his brother was. After couch surfing on the streets of Fayetteville, Arkansas, Boogie finally was able to get an apartment and keep the lights on. It was huge for him, all the while running his own computer programming business I believe. This generated massive amounts of anxiety though, leaving him with PTSD.

He has this unfortunate past, and while they dealt with it the best that they could, there is often only so much that another person in a relationship can handle before it transforms itself into resentment. Resentment is all that is left over, as the person that is helping you through these issues obviously internalizes that they could have a better, more stress free life with someone that doesn’t have any of these problems. If there mind isn’t in the right place to deal with all of this with you, expect a divorce. Expect a separation, the statistics say this about gastric bypass.

And what I’m getting at here is the red pill reality that love doesn’t just replace thinking. Till death do us part huh? No matter what you know, through sickness and health, we have to stick together. In the moment, you think that in order to be romantic you have to put all red flags and concerns to the side. For example, I had exes that began to show bad health habits. One of them stopped valuing exercising, even just a little bit, and that concerned me, because if I was going to be married to you I don’t want you getting out of shape – obviously for your own appearance and physical reasons, but even more than that – your health, would you be there for our kids? Would you push these medical bills through the roof? You can’t just discredit these things, and so many marriages occur after pushing these things to the side, and this is where I blame Desiree. If this is too much for you to handle, that’s partially on you because the blue prints were out in front of you.

Red pill realities don’t fade. You can’t just blue pill to the belief that all of these concerns need to be pushed aside for the sake of romance.

4) The red pill rebound

No marriage succeeds well when it is first. If you’re not ready to face that and if you can’t get out of the Disney view of it, it’s going to fail. If it is the first thing that you’re pursuing in life, that means that the other things that you’re pursuing, YouTube for Boogie, even the improvement of his own health, was inspired even more so by another person. I don’t think that going forward for Boogie’s career that he’ll find it challenging to find motivation for his YouTube career. But, I know that things really took off for his career between 2013 and 2017, and now he has his feet underneath him, and frankly, the relationship may have been the confidence boost that he needed. I can relate, my work career, some jobs that I got and even my performance as a pitcher in college improved significantly when I got a girlfriend.

But, now, he’s the one saying to himself, you need to do this and you need to do that. You need to do it for yourself, because all you have is your thoughts, your mind and your own perspective at the end of the day, regardless of who is or who isn’t in your life. Now he is in the stage of red pill rebound, the red pill rebound stage in which you realize that all you have is yourself. And this is where you actually take the time to learn what you have, learn what skills you have and most importantly, what thoughts are yours. This is when you become the most valuable to yourself and to others, and frankly it follows the patience principle, or the long game paradigm, in which a man that is patient, cultivates himself first and plays the long game is infinitely more valuable than the alternative.

So, Boogie, I’m sorry, and I hope that you are able to rebound, but since this is public and since I’ve followed you for many years and now have this MGTOW lens to compare it, I needed to look at this story for the sake of what we can learn and what can take away.

Men, protect yourself. Weigh the risks. Know that people are unpredictable, the world is unpredictable and nothing can be controlled through pure effort, and don’t discredit the impact that health and one’s past has on the current relationship.

But in the end, I advise, go MGTOW. Save a future divorce, save a life.

I will touch on more content related to Boogie in the next week or so, as there are few more things that I would like to add. Boogie, if ever want to reach out to me or to join in on one of these MGTOW segments, which I doubt that you would considering your already public persona, that would be welcomed.

You know where I’m at: sunrisehoodie@gmail.com and on Twitter @sunrisehoodie.