"Well, money is always in there," Turoff went on. "I think as long as you have programs that lose money that you constantly support, then you look at a program like mine and bring up a couple of questions: Why get rid of of a program that doesn't cost you and has been successful? They point out facilities. We've been training with our women's team since 1982, when I was asked to equalize facilities for men and women. It hasn't kept us from being successful. But I hear what happened here. I have to adjust my thinking a bit, see what's the best I can make out of the situation.