This is an interview recorded by Trevor Haugen that he had with Elder Don R. Clarke of the Frist Quorum of the Seventy and Matt Growe, a church historian. The interview was originally released as the center piece of episodes 711 - 714 of the Mormon Stories Podcast on March 27, 2017. The episodes were taken down that same day. The take down was accompanied by this public statement by John Dehlin, the podcast's host and director.

This audio file was released by MormonLeaks™ on March 28, 2017 01:35 EDT and was obtained from this source. You can download it using the link above.