Brogan and Bryan sit down with Tim Shields (Owner of Judge Academy) and Nicolette Apraez (Program Manager for Magic for Judge Academy) to talk about the hot topic everyone in the judge community is talking about. In this super-sized episode, you can hear first hand what the goals and upcoming challenges are for the new upcoming Certification body, and stick around for the post-show where Brogan and Bryan discuss their thoughts.

Judge Academy FAQ: https://judgeacademy.com/faq/

Wizards Statement: https://blogs.magicjudges.org/blog/2019/07/29/the-next-era-of-magic-judging/

Program Coordinator Statement: https://blogs.magicjudges.org/coordinators/2019/07/29/future-of-judge-program/

GenCon Q&A with Tim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L_x6N1nnQw&t=30s