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Member Back to Top Post by linearblade on so, after grinding almost 2 billion ag worth of old economy gear before the hammer hits, I pulled out my haechi and gave it a spin with the legendary pilot amalia.





pros: Dat shield. with the pilot, is incredible. regeneration skill also good, it doesnt matter if your shield is weak. because a hit from the tsar cannon , it will disapear anyway. dash its pretty nuts still for avoidance etc. and ambushing. damage resistance all around good. reasonable firepower. decent corner shooting.



cons: low health pool, ie ao ming food. vulnerable to coronas.



I was surprised with this bot. I think going into 5.8, this bot has potential to actually be meta. with damage resistance, 3 mods, and strong benefit from pilots, it does well.



beacons: 1/5 it can typically dash get the closest beacon in the game. it doesnt get any other low hanging fruit.

assault/brawling: 3-4/5. depending on your load out, this bot can seize a beacon. the damage resistance along with shield gives it non trivial durability. saving dashes for pulling out of point blank against cryo attacks can greatly minimize/nullfiy their attacks.

skirmish: 5/5 dash really makes all kinds of skirmish play possible. and haechi dash recharges reasonably well.

assassin: 4/5. again dash. high firepower. it has the technology to kill you effectively.



vs the meta:

light: easily fights off light meta bots. if they are using cryo or ballistics they dont have the firepower to significantly harm you. if using energy, they still have to hang around your 3 medium weapons and damage resistance. your gonna win this matchup

leech: surprisingly deadly. you can keep backing up and occasionally dashing to put the hurt on them, and after their abilities fade, dash back to put the hurt on them. multiple leeches will kill you, so avoid the mass melee.

ares: your weak vs energy, but dash really prevents him from bearing down on you. usually they arent brawling tho, so returning the favor can be difficult.

ao jun: another surprise... the burninator version can be dangerous. but 2 dashes will mean you likely survive. pushing them afterwards can be a challenge, with quantum radar however, you can bring the hurt while hes freaking out at shooting you.

against avenger juns... you are at an advantage, and since this build is common, its an effective counter to it.

Titans: kills kids. reasonable vs arthur. plasma ao ming is a plague that will kill you. you can corner shoot annoy mings, but its difficult to attack plasma mings altogether. however, as a titan protector, this bot is AMAZING. you can soak up a lot of firepower hiding behind your own arthur and use him as cover.



overall: 4/5 ... this bot was a pleasant surprise. I will be using it more in 5.8. it struggles in mass melee. but in duels, it is strong even at brawl range.





best use: mid to late game. its not gonna win games early on, and it wont handle the mass melee of early to mid. but in the end, when people are gassing this bot performs very well. it lasts a while when handled with care, and gets its job done

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Member Back to Top Post by linearblade on mystic spastic said:



While I can see the Haechi doing quite well if it's equipped with Scourges, Tarans and rockets are/were more common. I see a rocket Haechi while flying the Ao Jun, and I'm standing off at 400m until the shield is obliterated, and then will close to just under 350 for a few seconds. The entire time the poor dash bot can't touch me. While it's getting simultaneously fricasseed and tenderized. Never mind if the pilot activates Quantum Radar - I just stay out of range. Not the case with Scourges... Or Punisher Ts even. I'd put an asterisk by the Haechi's strength against Avenger AoJuns.While I can see the Haechi doing quite well if it's equipped with Scourges, Tarans and rockets are/were more common. I see a rocket Haechi while flying the Ao Jun, and I'm standing off at 400m until the shield is obliterated, and then will close to just under 350 for a few seconds. The entire time the poor dash bot can't touch me. While it's getting simultaneously fricasseed and tenderized. Never mind if the pilot activates Quantum Radar - I just stay out of range. Not the case with Scourges... Or Punisher Ts even.

I tend to agree. its probably the worst matchup for the haechi. its really gonna depend on the map tho. on something like dead city, that haechi is going to have a lot of ability to keep you away.

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Member Back to Top Post by linearblade on icyfire said:



But i agree, do not drop this as a first Bot it's best bet is to come out when the Mings appear. stay plus 600M until you're sure of it's weapons. guns and rockets at 500M mean nothing to this bot (been under a barrage of 2 Kid Titans, meh. Nice light show on the shield though). so play smart and use covers wisely.



Not necessarily weak against Ao Mings. My Lvl9 Haechi build is an annoying little bugger against anything. Just watch out for the 1000M snipers and Mollots. my setup is : +5% Health Skin, 3x Hussar Lvl 9, Legendary Pilot with +ShieldCap, +Shield Charge, +Durability, +Heal. Active Modules are 2x Fortifier(non upgraded) and +WpnDmg(small). For passives put shield Break or Quantum Radar and you've got a very good and very annoying sniper against Greek God and Stealth bots.But i agree, do not drop this as a first Bot it's best bet is to come out when the Mings appear. stay plus 600M until you're sure of it's weapons. guns and rockets at 500M mean nothing to this bot (been under a barrage of 2 Kid Titans, meh. Nice light show on the shield though). so play smart and use covers wisely.







Yea. That shield with dash is a strong option vs kinetic titans. Yea. That shield with dash is a strong option vs kinetic titans.

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But i agree, do not drop this as a first Bot it's best bet is to come out when the Mings appear. stay plus 600M until you're sure of it's weapons. guns and rockets at 500M mean nothing to this bot (been under a barrage of 2 Kid Titans, meh. Nice light show on the shield though). so play smart and use covers wisely.



Not necessarily weak against Ao Mings. My Lvl9 Haechi build is an annoying little bugger against anything. Just watch out for the 1000M snipers and Mollots. my setup is : +5% Health Skin, 3x Hussar Lvl 9, Legendary Pilot with +ShieldCap, +Shield Charge, +Durability, +Heal. Active Modules are 2x Fortifier(non upgraded) and +WpnDmg(small). For passives put shield Break or Quantum Radar and you've got a very good and very annoying sniper against Greek God and Stealth bots.But i agree, do not drop this as a first Bot it's best bet is to come out when the Mings appear. stay plus 600M until you're sure of it's weapons. guns and rockets at 500M mean nothing to this bot (been under a barrage of 2 Kid Titans, meh. Nice light show on the shield though). so play smart and use covers wisely.



Yea. That shield with dash is a strong option vs kinetic titans. What level did you take the Haichi to?Yea. That shield with dash is a strong option vs kinetic titans.



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Member Back to Top Post by RightOn on Since Haechi got the dash cooldown buff, that alone had changed it for everybody. It now takes only 8s to recharge a dash.



I don't use it that often because it's in my LR hangar. It doesn't use LR weapons, just a couple Orkans and a sinister Cryo (matched pretty well). The orkans could use a few levels or become Cryo's some day. I would also retrain the pilot for Legendary Pilot eventually since it only has a single skill, road hog.



But regardless, the dashes are what's up. The Ancile can help some, but it's the dash that gets you in and then out while a burst of rockets make it quick, and the freeze effect enhances damage for your team and slows the red down from intercepting you.



Overall, this is the best build concept I can think of for Haechi. This bot is made for orkans/cryo's. I consider it a fringe melee bot. It has the speed to dodge a few attacks, but if you can't single out your opponent you're dead meat. Using anything but high burst or longer range is a death sentence, it is not a DPM platform.

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Member Back to Top Post by shad3z on Method Games[YT] said: shad3z said:

I even got in quite a lot of trouble yesterday when I engaged a Scourge Haechi with my Avenger Ao Jun. Didn't expect the Quantum Radar module and it took 2/3s of my health before I got to safety.



Taran Haechi was one of my favorite builds. I was really happy to see it in the last Skirmish but on the battlefield it's still difficult to operate these days... I've been seeing more Haechis in Champions League lately and they are indeed viable when piloted well.I even got in quite a lot of trouble yesterday when I engaged a Scourge Haechi with my Avenger Ao Jun. Didn't expect the Quantum Radar module and it took 2/3s of my health before I got to safety.Taran Haechi was one of my favorite builds. I was really happy to see it in the last Skirmish but on the battlefield it's still difficult to operate these days...



I so want to drag my OE Haechi out of the museum but I don't want to spend any resources/time on pilot skills. This.I so want to drag my OE Haechi out of the museum but I don't want to spend any resources/time on pilot skills.

Unless you want to start training the legendary pilot from scratch of course... In all honesty: I don't find the pilot skills something that would hold me back. Retraining skills at 50 gold a spin most of the times gives me a result I'm happy with after 10 spins for 4 skills. That's 500 Ag I'm willing to spend given how much I have and how little I use it for other stuff.Unless you want to start training the legendary pilot from scratch of course...

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I loved my Haechi in the hayday, and used mine up until last month replaced by Ravana cause same basic loadout. But after using Ravana for a while, im really debating going back. HOWEVER< my biggest concerns are loadout choice limitations now that shotty nerf is coming, and NOT having the Legendary Pilot. Additionally, I am not blessed enough to afford premium modules like Fortifiers... wps available are 2x Cryo, T-Puns, Tarans, Tulums, Orkans.



That said, if I can at least get a regular pilot with shield cap + recharge, armor, etc, and available wtvr weapon choice, think I can still be effective in low Champions League>? Love the non-meta analysis posts lately!!!I loved my Haechi in the hayday, and used mine up until last month replaced by Ravana cause same basic loadout. But after using Ravana for a while, im really debating going back. HOWEVER< my biggest concerns are loadout choice limitations now that shotty nerf is coming, and. Additionally, I amlike Fortifiers... wps available are 2x Cryo, T-Puns, Tarans, Tulums, Orkans.That said, if I can at least get a regular pilot with shield cap + recharge, armor, etc, and available wtvr weapon choice, think I can still be effective in low Champions League>?

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I loved my Haechi in the hayday, and used mine up until last month replaced by Ravana cause same basic loadout. But after using Ravana for a while, im really debating going back. HOWEVER< my biggest concerns are loadout choice limitations now that shotty nerf is coming, and NOT having the Legendary Pilot. Additionally, I am not blessed enough to afford premium modules like Fortifiers... wps available are 2x Cryo, T-Puns, Tarans, Tulums, Orkans.



That said, if I can at least get a regular pilot with shield cap + recharge, armor, etc, and available wtvr weapon choice, think I can still be effective in low Champions League>? Love the non-meta analysis posts lately!!!I loved my Haechi in the hayday, and used mine up until last month replaced by Ravana cause same basic loadout. But after using Ravana for a while, im really debating going back. HOWEVER< my biggest concerns are loadout choice limitations now that shotty nerf is coming, and. Additionally, I amlike Fortifiers... wps available are 2x Cryo, T-Puns, Tarans, Tulums, Orkans.That said, if I can at least get a regular pilot with shield cap + recharge, armor, etc, and available wtvr weapon choice, think I can still be effective in low Champions League>?





I’m running it in champ 2, and started it from level one. It does fine . In fact I wish I had more of them. It competes well.



The Legendary Pilot really helps, but if you stick with scourge and lock on, you could probably be ok I’m running it in champ 2, and started it from level one. It does fine . In fact I wish I had more of them. It competes well.The Legendary Pilot really helps, but if you stick with scourge and lock on, you could probably be ok