Probably never.



It's kinda funny, i think back to when i was a kid... before 1989 and Burton's Batman, if you said "Batman" or "the Joker," all people would think of is the old Adam West series. That's all that Batman and the Joker were. Two hammy, silly characters fighting stupid fake battles. There were comics, but for the most part, Batman was extinct.



I know that today everyone "appreciates" the old Batman show for how innocent and odd it seems, but as a kid in the '80s? Man, it seemed old and lame.... not all new and cool, like Star Wars, Voltron, Terminator, etc. I had no idea that Batman would ever be anything other than that.



Then came Burton. And now Batman and the Joker are ever-new, ever-changing, and eternal. Which is good.



Am i the only one who likes Leto Joker and Eisenberg Luthor? I really don't see what the problem with them is.



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