trapghoul:

night-hawks:

thewrinkleintime: night-hawks: trapghoul: what i want to know from men’s right activits who want “progression of both sexes” is how much further can white cis straight men progress? like where are you going???? mars????? wow maybe we could have a conversation about how, i don’t know, the various ways that the patriarchy creates and reinforces narrow definitions of femininity and masculinity as well? because both definitions are really narrow and unworkable? and maybe if we worked to break down the boundaries of both female and male gender roles we could get some real progress up in the world? like maybe???

I’m not a fan of gender roles. Julia Serano writes about traditional sexism as well as oppositional sexism, which is discrimination against people that break gender norms, and that can affect anyone. right, i’m sorry, i didn’t mean my response as an attack on you personally, more as a criticism of the OP. i think this idea that “white cis straight males have all the rights in the world!!!” overlooks the restrictions that our society’s gender roles place on both women and men, and like you said, the discrimination that occurs when people break said roles. and on top of itcompletely removes the class dimension from discussion (because if you’re a white cis male who’s unemployed living somewhere like youngstown ohio, you certainly don’t have many opportunities open to you) sorry for being so sarcastic earlier, though. i’ll have to check out julia serano!!

societal gender roles are so confining and they were created by cis white straight men and now they’re mad because their patriarchy is backfiring on them

cis white straight men DO have all the rights in the world

they set the standard they created the roles they create the rules and change them when they want to

and i’m not ignoring the divide between the rich and the poor but as whole cis white straight men generally run everything and have TONS more opportunities

their “progression” would not benefit me or other women. what do they want us to help them become?

unless they want to do undo their patriarchy with them then none of it matters to me.