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Mark Gurman I think you are aware that I was up in New Hampshire last week to conduct a focus group with some Republicans and independents who are either strong supporters of yours or leaning toward you. One of the things that a lot of those people said was he's a billionaire. He's successful we love that about him but he's also one of us one of us a word the phrase that came up a lot. How do you explain that people who see you as so different from them can also see as being one of them. Well I'll tell you it's very interesting and I did happen to watch that. It was such a nice great group of people but you know they see the country like I do it's run by incompetent people were being ripped off left and right by China by everybody I mean I don't. It's not just China it's everybody I mean we don't make good deals anymore. They want to see it stopped. From a political standpoint we'll have better relationships with those countries than we do now. Now it's a one way street out and they all hate us. It'll change very dramatic. Mr Trump also up in New Hampshire and a new poll . Voters there Republican voters are rating you as the best to deal with the economy amongst the Republican field. Obviously people know you're a successful businessman but we want to talk a little bit about your views on things relate the economy. So I want to start with the XM bank. That's a big debate within the Republican Party now about whether it should still exist . What is your views of the pros and cons on the XM bank and where do you come down on it in the end. I don't like it because I don't think it's necessary. It's a one way street also it's a sort of a feather bedding for politicians and others and a few companies and these are companies that can do very well without it. So I don't like it. I think it's a lot of excess baggage . I think it's unnecessary. And what do you think about free enterprise. It's really not free enterprise. I'd be against it . All right sticking with this theme Mr. Trump. We'll ask you a little bit about the Federal Reserve. You think back on all the Fed chairs in the past who you think has been the best. Well you know right now you have Janet is you know sort of more of the same and I have to tell you I often talk with two hats. I saw the last couple of months I've been a politician I've been in your world and previous to that I've been a business person . I've always loved low interest rates as a developer and I've always done very well with low interest rates. And I think that frankly you know you look at what's going on now. The problem is I think you're creating a bubble and the bubble could explode . I like Paul Volcker a lot. I thought he was a terrific guy in so many different ways and he had he had a good pulse and he had a good good you know to me he had he was doing what had to be done. Right now we have the low rates again from the standpoint of what I do in terms of real estate I want to develop I'm building the Old Post Office now. I'm just finishing up the Trump National Doral in Miami. From that standpoint I like low interest rates from the country's standpoint I'm just not sure it's a very good thing because I really do believe we're creating a bubble. You said you like Paul Volcker Do you like the rule named after him as part of Dodd-Frank the Volcker Rule . Well I'm not sure if he likes it but if he's you know what . Honestly Mark if he's happy I'm happy. He was a terrific guy I've met him a few times and I thought he was terrific but I think is his policy and his demeanor it was something very solid about him his demeanor were very good. Let me ask you the same question John asked about Fed Chairs Abed's treasury secretaries if you look across the history of the U.S. What's the who's the treasury secretary who you think was the best. Well I don't think I have an opinion on that. I think we've had some good ones we've had some bad ones but I really wouldn't have an opinion on that. We're going to I know they're talking about right now. Lots of beautiful pictures on beautiful builds and we're going to see whether or not that works out. But I have no real opinion on that. I think actually Federal Reserve right now in this world the way we you know we've built it up and probably has more of an impact than almost any other position other than the couple of biggies. OK. You don't want to weigh in on any Treasury Secretary when you like. Let me just ask you about a recent one who some people like some people don't. What do you think of Bob Rubin was he a good treasury secretary . Well I thought he was a smart guy and he went I think with Citibank and then Citibank crash right after he went. So that's sort of his reputation as far as I'm concerned but I think he was a smart guy. I think he worked hard at it. You know we were doing fairly well under him. He left and the world cratered. So I don't know does he get some point deductions for that would have to take a look at it. Certainly Citibank didn't do very well. Mr. Trump you said that you tweeted the other day something that suggested at least that some of your Republican rivals might be puppets for having gone too to the Koch Brothers retreat out in California. I want to ask you a policy question that kind of undergirds all of that which is about Citizens United. Do you think that that Supreme Court case was rightly or wrongly decided . Well you know they're very good friends of mine and David Bossie is a terrific guy and I know he fights very hard I guess from my standpoint Personally I almost rather not see it. You understand that because I see all of the money that's being raised by these folks and they're raising hundreds of millions of dollars and ultimately billions of dollars and from my standpoint because I'm I don't need anybody's money and I want to do it the old fashioned way and I don't like the fact that you know lots of people are getting into the act so personally I wouldn't like it. Overall I'm not sure it's the worst thing in the world. I would like to see it a little bit differently where it's not tax because these packs are it's a total phony deal. When Bush raises one hundred and somewhat million dollars and then he waits and waits and waits because you're not allowed to talk to the pack and you're not allowed to tell them and then the money is sitting in there and then he puts his best friend in charge or somebody that's very close up and then they never talk. Well if anybody believes that they never talk it's a joke right. So we'll campaign finance reform be an important part of your platform and if so what's the cornerstone of your idea about campaign finance reform. Well I think it could be it wouldn't be number one. I mean no one would be trade. No one would be Obamacare repealing and replacing strengthening up the military taking care of our vets. We have a lot of things you know things we could talk all day long about things we have to do but campaign finance reform it certainly would be something that we could talk about. And I think more than anything else just transparency. I mean there should be total transparency so that if somebody is going to do something and I think one of the reasons I'm so high in the polls is because everyone knows that the lobbyists many of which I employees used to employ and I know many of them but they have tremendous power over in fact I end with the Cokes I called it puppets. They have tremendous power over these candidates. And I'm not just talking about Coke I'm talking about lobbyists I'm talking about special interests I'm talking about donors. And I was one of the big donors. I mean I know the system better than probably almost anybody almost as well as you guys would know the system but you have tremendous power when you give money especially when you give substantial money over the candidates and a lot of times those candidates will do things fell is that a very bad for the country but they're good for the company that the power group represents. Is Trump we're to spend the last couple of minutes with you talking about stuff that's not really about politics just a couple of questions so that we can help our viewers get to know you as a person a little better. One of my fundamental fortune the road of life is the question of whether you're a Beatles person or a Stones person you're a Beatles person or a Stones person. I really like them both but I guess I'll go with the Beatles. All right wise choices. I know you like to golf . I know you like to spend time with your family. What else do you like to do these days for fun. Well I guess a lot of fun is talking to you guys but I don't have out of time left. You know I just got back from Scotland because I own Turnberry one of the great resorts of the world that we had the Women's British Open there which is their biggest tournament. And I had to be there for two days so I didn't even get to stay for the final day because I was actually anxious to get back on the so-called train. Are you saying that by out between your work your business and campaigning family and golf you don't have time for anything else fun. I would say pretty much maxed out. Well well there's no question about it my life is an interesting life . But I would say I'm maxed out. That does raise a question though you know. Yeah you're you're very busy. We know that you tweet basically at all hours of the day and night how many hours a night do you think you're getting in the sack at this point how many hours you sleep in every night. Well historically John I haven't needed too much and I think that's a genetic thing I suspect or maybe it's a thing where you love what you do. You know it's also that because when I know a lot of people they can sleep all day because they're not happy and they don't like what they're doing. I love what I'm doing whether it's my business or now what I'm doing now because I think we want to really make America great again. And I love what I'm doing and I guess I'm emboldened by the polls that are coming out because they're so strong based on the tweets. It seems like you sleep four hours a night. Is that I'd say that I'd say four. Yeah yeah. Do you do you ever nap. No I don't nap. I don't know. I again I worry if no I don't think so. I mean it's like traveling for animal benefit compared to some of the people you're running against you're up 20 hours a day . That's pretty good. Well I always say to people I mean I have some friends that don't sleep very much and I would say assuming you don't need it. I always say to them that we have a big advantage because we have more hours in the day to work and compete. So it is a definite advantage .