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Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27)

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Report Copyright Violation Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) CFS1200704559 Book 4, PDF 00227767 Amended Supplemental DNA Report VI, Sept.27, 2012



I have read this over and over and I find it hard to believe what I'm reading. If I am somehow mistaken please point it out but I encourage you to read it for yourself.



As I understand it:



Adam Lanza IS NOT listed as DNA contributor on the purported murder weapon! In fact it is either that of a redacted name or Lauren Rousseau or in one case Dawn Hochsprung



It is understandable that body fluids of victims could come in to contact with the weapons carried by the murderer. It stretches credibility when that same DNA is found on bullets inside of loaded magazine.



Lauren Rousseau's DNA is found on most of the guns, mags and bullets. Hochsprung's DNA is found on a 10mm cartridge. Lanza supposedly only used the Glock 10mm to commit suicide in a different room from where Dawn Hochsprung was supposedly shot.



While it is a possibility that Adam Lanza's name is redacted as a sample contributor I see no reason to not name him if it was his DNA on these items.



As for the Savage.22 rifle used to kill Nancy Lanza not only is his DNA not found on either the trigger or the bolt handle but the DNA of a convicted offender from the NY State Police database came up as a "hit" on a .22 bullet.

CFS1200705354 , Section 12 - CT State Police Forensics Report .





Updated information 01/27/14) *

I missed additional info from CFS120070597, PDF 00166546

While there is no assertion in this document that Adam's DNA was on the Bushmaster AR15 it was found on the following:

10mm Auto cartridge



And is listed as a contributor to:

Glock Magazine

Sig Sauer Magazine



The only possible connection to the purported murder weapon is his listing once again as a contributor to:

67-1S1

72-3S1 - Both 5.56x45 cartridges but I'm unsure of where these evidence samples were taken from.



Adam Lanza is listed as NOT being a contributor to the following:

Saiga 12 ga forearm stock

Saiga 12 gs shoulder stock

Saiga 12 ga magazine

12 ga shells

- End Updated information -



- Original OP continues:



Adam's DNA isn't on the Saiga Shotgun or on the drivers side outside door handle or rear outside door handle of the Black Honda Civic (remember Barb Sibley "all the doors were open" comment?



To top it off at least one Police officer and a child both described the shooter as blonde - which is the color of hairs seen on both the GLock 20 and the black hat.



Were this a trial the evidence connecting Adam to the crimes is purely circumstantial. He had no motive, the only adult eyewitness said he wore a mask.



The DNA from the murder weapons belongs to someone else, someone redacted from the report or from Lauren Rousseau. At any rate it doesn't appear to have come from Adam.



More than ever I am convinced that Adam Lanza was set up as a patsy and either forced or tricked in to going to the school. Whether Adam was an actual person or not is a subject for a different thread.



Last Edited by FlashBuzzkill on 12/21/2014 06:20 PM

Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. I have read this over and over and I find it hard to believe what I'm reading. If I am somehow mistaken please point it out but I encourage you to read it for yourself.As I understand it:In fact it is either that of a redacted name or Lauren Rousseau or in one case Dawn HochsprungIt is understandable that body fluids of victims could come in to contact with the weapons carried by the murderer. It stretches credibility when that same DNA is found on bullets inside of loaded magazine.Lauren Rousseau's DNA is found on most of the guns, mags and bullets. Hochsprung's DNA is found on a 10mm cartridge. Lanza supposedly only used the Glock 10mm to commit suicide in a different room from where Dawn Hochsprung was supposedly shot.As for the Savage.22 rifle used to kill Nancy Lanza not only is his DNA not found on either the trigger or the bolt handle but the DNA of a convicted offender from the NY State Police database came up as a "hit" on a .22 bullet.- Original OP continues:Adam's DNA isn't on the Saiga Shotgun or on the drivers side outside door handle or rear outside door handle of the Black Honda Civic (remember Barb Sibley "all the doors were open" comment?To top it off at least one Police officer and a child both described the shooter as blonde - which is the color of hairs seen on both the GLock 20 and the black hat.Were this a trial the evidence connecting Adam to the crimes is purely circumstantial. He had no motive, the only adult eyewitness said he wore a mask.The DNA from the murder weapons belongs to someone else, someone redacted from the report or from Lauren Rousseau. At any rate it doesn't appear to have come from Adam.More than ever I am convinced that Adam Lanza was set up as a patsy and either forced or tricked in to going to the school. Whether Adam was an actual person or not is a subject for a different thread.

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) Someone who does not exist doesn't have DNA.



But I get your drift.

Quoting: Dudeashaneo



This phrase is used repeatedly after nearly every piece of DNA evidence:

All other items listed within the knowns portion of evidence description section are eliminated as contributors to the DNA profile.



Adam, Nancy, Rousseau, Davino, Murphy are all among the "knowns" as are the redacted names of what we can only assume are children.



When it says "mixture of so and so with 01 02 12 REDACTED" one can only assume it to be the redacted name of an adult used context within the sentence.



Who are they hiding?

A shooter with blonde hair perhaps?

Someone from NY who is on the offender registry?

Why was there a White Subaru in the parking lot with NY plates and blood leading the driver door?



One of the detained "reporters" was from NY as was the other man arrested and taken to PD headquarters for questioning (possibly the man described by Row Low wearing camo pants and a dark jacket).



One last thing: The NY state medical examiner as well as one from NJ were on scene.



Last Edited by FlashBuzzkill on 01/27/2014 12:00 AM

Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. This phrase is used repeatedly after nearly every piece of DNA evidence:Adam, Nancy, Rousseau, Davino, Murphy are all among the "knowns" as are the redacted names of what we can only assume are children.When it says "mixture of so and so with 01 02 12 REDACTED" one can only assume it to be the redacted name of an adult used context within the sentence.Who are they hiding?A shooter with blonde hair perhaps?Someone from NY who is on the offender registry?Why was there a White Subaru in the parking lot with NY plates and blood leading the driver door?One of the detained "reporters" was from NY as was the other man arrested and taken to PD headquarters for questioning (possibly the man described by Row Low wearing camo pants and a dark jacket).

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) None of the recovered bullets matched the alleged Lanza rifle either.



The preliminary report stated this rifle caliber "could not be eliminated" as a source of the recovered bullet fragments.



Nothing, at this point, will surprise me with regard to this crime against the American People.

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) 5 starts for this one.

Mention this on mains stream news and you will be ridiculed, later a knock on the door for indefinite detention

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) There was a thread about this the other day.... the listed 'offender number' that pinged in the DNA search can't be looked up through NY's criminal database or parolee database.



No resources exist to match the id # to a name.....DNA database unauthorized information is a 3rd degree felony.



We tried to figure out who the guy is, but it's a no-go unless you have po-po resources. =-P

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) Someone who does not exist doesn't have DNA.



But I get your drift.

Quoting: Dudeashaneo



Or someone who is not human, if you want to go with the silly overlapping multiverse theory required to make all the conflicting evidence work out properly.



Back to sanity after that brief plug for a Twilight Zone version.... Or someone who is not human, if you want to go with the silly overlapping multiverse theory required to make all the conflicting evidence work out properly.Back to sanity after that brief plug for a Twilight Zone version....

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Thanks for posting and your research, this is really crazy. Logically thinking though, if this entire. thing is a hoax, then why do we find stuff like this in the report?



There is no logical explanation... A cover up? But this means those kids really died, and I'm not convinced those parents lost any child. So I'm confused at this point. Why this DNA mess in a hoax, what are we really dealing with here.



I still can't get over the convicted felon DNA match from NY. I mean seriously? People who are filing FOI requests with CT State police are threatened with felony charges...



What a fuckery



Last Edited by LadyK on 01/27/2014 03:14 AM Thanks for posting and your research, this is really crazy. Logically thinking though, if this entire. thing is a hoax, then why do we find stuff like this in the report?There is no logical explanation... A cover up? But this means those kids really died, and I'm not convinced those parents lost any child. So I'm confused at this point. Why this DNA mess in a hoax, what are we really dealing with here.I still can't get over the convicted felon DNA match from NY. I mean seriously? People who are filing FOI requests with CT State police are threatened with felony charges...What a fuckery

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) Same with Martin Bryant and the Au "massacre".



The police chief in that state even admitted that there was no evidence to tie him to what happened.

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Had to be a drill but someone inside used the event as cover to either make DHS or the CSP look like nitwits or to take out a potential threat. The articles by Yoichi Shimatsu seem to make more and more sense.



I'm beginning to really wonder about Rousseau at this point, who she was and what she might have been doing. The fact her step father Bill Leukhardt was on scene seemingly unconcerned could be telling.

Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. This is why I think somebody did get killed. If it were all true then the report would make some sense. If it were only a drill then they would have done a much better job of covering their asses to make the story sensible.Had to be a drill but someone inside used the event as cover to either make DHS or the CSP look like nitwits or to take out a potential threat. The articles by Yoichi Shimatsu seem to make more and more sense.I'm beginning to really wonder about Rousseau at this point, who she was and what she might have been doing. The fact her step father Bill Leukhardt was on scene seemingly unconcerned could be telling.

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) If it were only a drill then they would have done a much better job of covering their asses to make the story sensible.

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No need to do a good job when no one cares if its a hoax or not.



ie since no one is standing up, they can be more and more open each time. No need to do a good job when no one cares if its a hoax or not.ie since no one is standing up, they can be more and more open each time.

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Thanks for posting and your research, this is really crazy. Logically thinking though, if this entire. thing is a hoax, then why do we find stuff like this in the report?



There is no logical explanation... A cover up? But this means those kids really died, and I'm not convinced those parents lost any child. So I'm confused at this point. Why this DNA mess in a hoax, what are we really dealing with here.



I still can't get over the convicted felon DNA match from NY. I mean seriously? People who are filing FOI requests with CT State police are threatened with felony charges...



What a fuckery

Thanks for posting and your research, this is really crazy. Logically thinking though, if this entire. thing is a hoax, then why do we find stuff like this in the report?There is no logical explanation... A cover up? But this means those kids really died, and I'm not convinced those parents lost any child. So I'm confused at this point. Why this DNA mess in a hoax, what are we really dealing with here.I still can't get over the convicted felon DNA match from NY. I mean seriously? People who are filing FOI requests with CT State police are threatened with felony charges...What a fuckery Quoting: LadyK74



Lanza didn't do it. The USA didn't do it.

The O-Admin wouldn't give the Chinese the time of day. The US was planning to mint a Trillion Dollar Coin (1.5 ounces of Platinum). This highly distressed the Chin leadership. Obama ignored their pleas for discussions. The O-man wanted to play golf. The chins had to do something to get his attention.



Remember, Obama regardless of whether born in HI or Kenya was raised in Indonesia. He is an Indonesian at heart. Indonesians don't like the chins.



The chin leadership was upset that Obama were planning to flip them a coin for years of labor of the entire country and say don't spend it all in one place.



The chins wanted this a gruesome, ghastly episode so that the Obama admin could not ignore it or them. That is why the children were dismembered (see Feinstein testimony before house of reps). Dismemberment was why the parents were not allowed to view bodies.









We don't talk about the Trillion Dollar Coin anymore. Lanza didn't do it. The USA didn't do it.The O-Admin wouldn't give the Chinese the time of day. The US was planning to mint a Trillion Dollar Coin (1.5 ounces of Platinum). This highly distressed the Chin leadership. Obama ignored their pleas for discussions. The O-man wanted to play golf. The chins had to do something to get his attention.Remember, Obama regardless of whether born in HI or Kenya was raised in Indonesia. He is an Indonesian at heart. Indonesians don't like the chins.The chin leadership was upset that Obama were planning to flip them a coin for years of labor of the entire country and say don't spend it all in one place.The chins wanted this a gruesome, ghastly episode so that the Obama admin could not ignore it or them. That is why the children were dismembered (see Feinstein testimony before house of reps). Dismemberment was why the parents were not allowed to view bodies.We don't talk about the Trillion Dollar Coin anymore.

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) This is why I think somebody did get killed. If it were all true then the report would make some sense. If it were only a drill then they would have done a much better job of covering their asses to make the story sensible.

Quoting: FlashBuzzkill



Unless a compelling purpose of the hoax was to condition people to the end that they may be given an obviously insensible purport and they are to accept it, or else bear the consequences of questioning it even when it is played out right before their eyes. In that case, the effort would be to make the problems and inconsistencies as blatantly overt and heavy-handed as possible. Given that circumstance, those perpetrating the action would probably take pains to convince you that they are lying about a real event, and even tempt you to attempt to resolve the false particulars they provide and theorize about the nature of the event. They would actually want to solidify your conviction that you are being lied to. Being lied to and while you are required to acknowledge internally that you are vulnerable for pursuing, entertaining, or even considering the truth about what is plainly displayed even when it plays out beneath your very nose.



Posts like these make me wonder, "Am I the only one here who has read the book, 1984, and/or Orwell's private correspondence?" Unless a compelling purpose of the hoax was to condition people to the end that they may be given an obviously insensible purport and they are to accept it, or else bear the consequences of questioning it even when it is played out right before their eyes. In that case, the effort would be to make the problems and inconsistencies as blatantly overt and heavy-handed as possible. Given that circumstance, those perpetrating the action would probably take pains to convince you that they are lying about a real event, and even tempt you to attempt to resolve the false particulars they provide and theorize about the nature of the event. They would actually want to solidify your conviction that you are being lied to. Being lied to and while you are required to acknowledge internally that you are vulnerable for pursuing, entertaining, or even considering the truth about what is plainly displayed even when it plays out beneath your very nose.Posts like these make me wonder, "Am I the only one here who has read the book,, and/or Orwell's private correspondence?"

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) If it were only a drill then they would have done a much better job of covering their asses to make the story sensible.

Quoting: FlashBuzzkill



No need to do a good job when no one cares if its a hoax or not.



ie since no one is standing up, they can be more and more open each time.

No need to do a good job when no one cares if its a hoax or not.ie since no one is standing up, they can be more and more open each time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53472459



In fact, under an Orwellian scenario, it would be a deliberate part of their plan to be more and more open each time. This, while promoting an ever increasing fear of the consequences for one's failure to swallow the load of bullshit with a smile. In fact, under an Orwellian scenario, it would be a deliberate part of their plan to be more and more open each time. This, while promoting an ever increasing fear of the consequences for one's failure to swallow the load of bullshit with a smile.

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Thanks for posting and your research, this is really crazy. Logically thinking though, if this entire. thing is a hoax, then why do we find stuff like this in the report?



There is no logical explanation... A cover up? But this means those kids really died, and I'm not convinced those parents lost any child. So I'm confused at this point. Why this DNA mess in a hoax, what are we really dealing with here.



I still can't get over the convicted felon DNA match from NY. I mean seriously? People who are filing FOI requests with CT State police are threatened with felony charges...



What a fuckery

Quoting: LadyK74



I can't wait for the security video of the NY felon at a Hallmark gift store at a mall in Danbury or some shit, perusing the birthday card section , coughing or sneezing , scratching his head, getting his DNA all over. *redacted**redacted**redacted* and in walks Peter Lanza.



ha I can't wait for the security video of the NY felon at a Hallmark gift store at a mall in Danbury or some shit, perusing the birthday card section , coughing or sneezing , scratching his head, getting his DNA all over. *redacted**redacted**redacted* and in walks Peter Lanza.ha

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) "Lauren Rousseau's DNA is found on most of the guns, mags and bullets. Hochsprung's DNA is found on a .40 cartridge."



VERY strange.

Quoting: AnonymousGirl



Not as strange as some professional portraits:



[link to www.nydailynews.com]

Not as strange as some professional portraits: Quoting: zenobiaphobia



let's also include Jill Greenberg's "End Times" art exhibit with the crying naked children who match up to a majority of SH victims



[link to www.kopeikingallery.com]



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let's also include Jill Greenberg's "End Times" art exhibit with the crying naked children who match up to a majority of SH victims Quoting: SteamrolledGobias



From her "About" at the above link!



Bill Moyer’s article “There is No Tomorrow” more than touches on Mrs. Greenberg’s subject matter. In the article he states the amazing statistics: “For the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington. Theology asserts propositions that cannot be proven true; ideologues hold stoutly to a worldview despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality. The offspring of ideology and theology are not always bad but they are always blind. And that is the danger: voters and politicians alike, oblivious to the facts.



One-third of the American electorate, if a recent Gallup Poll is accurate, believes the Bible is literally true. This past November, several million good and decent citizens went to the polls believing in what is known as the "rapture index."



These true believers subscribe to a fantastical theology concocted in the 19th century by a couple of immigrant preachers who took disparate passages from the Bible and wove them into a narrative that has captivated the imagination of millions of Americans. Its outline is rather simple, if bizarre: Once Israel has occupied the rest of its "bibli-cal lands," legions of the Antichrist will attack it, triggering a final showdown in the valley of Armageddon. As the Jews who have not been converted are burned, the messiah will return for the rapture.



That is why the invasion of Iraq for them was a warm-up act, predicted in the Book of Revelations, where four angels "which are bound in the great river Euphrates will be released to slay the third part of man." For them a war with Islam in the Middle East is something to be welcomed - an essential conflagration on the road to redemption. The rapture index - "the prophetic speedometer of end-time activity" - now stands at 153."



Jill Greenberg explains, “The children I photographed were not harmed in any way. And, as a mother, I am quite aware of how easily toddlers can cry. (snip) From her "About" at the above link!Bill Moyer’s article “There is No Tomorrow” more than touches on Mrs. Greenberg’s subject matter. In the article he states the amazing statistics: “For the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington. Theology asserts propositions that cannot be proven true; ideologues hold stoutly to a worldview despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality. The offspring of ideology and theology are not always bad but they are always blind. And that is the danger: voters and politicians alike, oblivious to the facts.One-third of the American electorate, if a recent Gallup Poll is accurate, believes the Bible is literally true. This past November, several million good and decent citizens went to the polls believing in what is known as the "rapture index."These true believers subscribe to a fantastical theology concocted in the 19th century by a couple of immigrant preachers who took disparate passages from the Bible and wove them into a narrative that has captivated the imagination of millions of Americans. Its outline is rather simple, if bizarre: Once Israel has occupied the rest of its "bibli-cal lands," legions of the Antichrist will attack it, triggering a final showdown in the valley of Armageddon. As the Jews who have not been converted are burned, the messiah will return for the rapture.That is why the invasion of Iraq for them was a warm-up act, predicted in the Book of Revelations, where four angels "which are bound in the great river Euphrates will be released to slay the third part of man." For them a war with Islam in the Middle East is something to be welcomed - an essential conflagration on the road to redemption. The rapture index - "the prophetic speedometer of end-time activity" - now stands at 153."Jill Greenberg explains, “The children I photographed were not harmed in any way. And, as a mother, I am quite aware of how easily toddlers can cry. (snip)

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Report Copyright Violation Re: Sandy Hook - Adam's DNA NOT found on Bushmaster AR15*?(Updated 1/27) Think of the endless number of shootings that start out as being reported as TWO OR MORE PEOPLE....



Including the Colorado Shooting, Newtown, the DC NAVY Yard, oh and Columbine had ATLEAST 3 CONFIRMED participants.

Quoting: First Born



My point being, I believe most of these shooting were carried out by a mentally ill person who had a "handler" in charge of the event. Especailly, Newtown and the DC Navy Yard.



And consider this...



The WRONG BROTHERS ID was found at the scene of New Town.



So this handler probably screwed up and printed out the wrong persons information. My point being, I believe most of these shooting were carried out by a mentally ill person who had a "handler" in charge of the event. Especailly, Newtown and the DC Navy Yard.And consider this...The WRONG BROTHERS ID was found at the scene of New Town.So this handler probably screwed up and printed out the wrong persons information.

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Quoting: SteamrolledGobias



Who was the other guy they caught (and released) in the woods?



Where's the security camera video? Name me one public school that doesn't have security cameras in the US!



Remember the disconnect on what weapons were supposedly used?



Remember how the demolition workers of the school had to sign a non-disclosure agreement before entering the school to tear it down recently?



Remember the state police chief threatening anyone who spoke about "alternate" theories with arrest?



All this adds up to something not right with the official story. Sandy Hook and Fast & Furious happened about the time Obama wanted to pass the UN Small Arms Treaty - VERY SUSPICIOUS. Elements in the government were trying to get public sentiment against the 2nd Amendment.



American People 1, government elites BUPKIS.



And the Aurora theater shootings - lots of questions with that and a dead nurse who tried to speak out.



Remember the Sikh shootings in Milwaukee? The alleged shooter had a very salty NWO past as well. Who gets pissed at Sikhs? Honorable sect, and they never have done anything to piss us off.







FALSE FLAGS ALL. Where's the security camera video? Name me one public school that doesn't have security cameras in the US!Remember the disconnect on what weapons were supposedly used?Remember how the demolition workers of the school had to sign a non-disclosure agreement before entering the school to tear it down recently?Remember the state police chief threatening anyone who spoke about "alternate" theories with arrest?And the Aurora theater shootings - lots of questions with that and a dead nurse who tried to speak out.Remember the Sikh shootings in Milwaukee? The alleged shooter had a very salty NWO past as well. Who gets pissed at Sikhs? Honorable sect, and they never have done anything to piss us off.FALSE FLAGS ALL.