Equality is “nonsense” and fairness is “for losers”; white men are rapidly losing their status in culture and politics, and Donald Trump has irreversibly changed the world - according to the guy who’s attributed to coining the term “Alt Right” in America, Richard Spencer.

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Richard joined Hack during the last 48 hours of the most remarkable race to the White House the world has ever watched.

What is the Alt Right?

For Richard, who is also the President of white nationalist think tank the National Policy Institute, and the editor of Alt Right publication Radixjournal.com, the Alt Right was sparked from deep frustration among white men.

“It feels like all of politics and culture are united against us. That our status is falling. That our future is being cut off. So there’s a lot of rightful frustration, amongst white men,” Richard told Hack.

“I think white men are really facing some tremendous struggles. It seems like all culture is against us. Whenever people use words like, ‘we need more diversity at this corporation,’ what that means is - less white men, period.

Richard Spencer's interview on Hack provoked some visceral reactions from triple j listeners.

Skip Twitter Tweet FireFox NVDA users - To access the following content, press 'M' to enter the iFrame. "I realised he was for real, and I almost vomited" #triplejHack caller in disbelief at @RichardBSpencer — triplejHack (@triplejHack) November 7, 2016

“The things that I care about are not fairness or equality, or this kind of nonsense. What I care about is greatness, beauty, achievement. Those are the great values that we should hold. And not something like fairness - fairness is for losers.”

Alt Right enters the political debate

Donald Trump wouldn’t classify himself as Alt Right. Richard Spencer doesn’t call Trump Alt Right either; but says he’s going in the “right direction” with his policies on immigration and foreign affairs.

Skip Twitter Tweet FireFox NVDA users - To access the following content, press 'M' to enter the iFrame. It is amazing how often I am right, only to be criticized by the media. Illegal immigration, take the oil, build the wall, Muslims, NATO! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 24, 2016

But Trump’s views on immigration, foreign policy and economic issues have had even lifelong Republicans like former US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage distance themselves from the Republican nominee - and vote for Hillary Clinton instead.

But the influence of the Alt Right in the Presidential race goes beyond the movement’s endless tweets, blogs, and articles calling Donald Trump a “prophet”.

It’s been big enough for Hillary Clinton to take notice.

In a speech in August this year, Clinton denounced the Alt Right’s ties to Donald Trump - claiming the movement had “taken over” the Republican party.

“The de facto merger between [politically conservative news website] Breitbart and the Trump campaign represents a landmark achievement for the Alt-Right. A fringe element has effectively taken over the Republican Party,” Hillary Clinton said.

“Trump is the beginning”

Richard Spencer knows tomorrow’s election result might not turn out the way he hopes.

But the Alt Right movement won’t have been for nothing if Trump loses, Richard says.

“I think that Donald Trump is the kind of first step toward this new kind of politics that I’ve been outlying. It’s maybe the first awkward, maybe vulgar step in that direction.

“I think that’s a very good thing. And I think Donald Trump has appealed to the right people around the world.

“Is Donald Trump perfect? Of course not. Is Donald trump vulgar and somewhat embarrassing? Of course he is. But there’s something about him.

“I will be sad of course [if Hillary Clinton wins]. However I am part of a movement that is bigger than Trump. Trump was a first step towards an awakening of identity politics, towards an awakening of a new European spirit in the world. He might not be the man to bring this to fruition. And so if he loses - I will be sad, I truly want him to win. But if he loses I’m not going to give up on my dream. This is bigger than Trump and we’re just going to forward.

Trump has awakened something in the world, and it’s not going to go back to sleep again.

“Some things have been said that can’t be unsaid. And so we’re just going to move on, with or without him.”

Listen to Richard Spencer’s interview on Hack below.

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