When newly appointed White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci appeared on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday morning, he revealed some telling things about the Trump administration. There are “obviously” communications problems within the White House and with the press, said Scaramucci; he plans to take “dramatic action” to stop White House leaks; and Donald Trump himself apparently still finds it hard to believe that Russia had anything to do with the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

The White House has drawn up a draft bill of sanctions against Russia as retaliation for that nation’s actions during the election—actions that a number of national security agencies agree did happen. But when CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Scaramucci if Trump would sign the bill, his guest was more than a little cagey when delivering his answer.

“Somebody said to me yesterday—I won’t tell you who—that if the Russians actually hacked this situation and spilled out those emails, you would’ve never seen it, you would never have any evidence of them,” Scaramucci said. “Meaning that they’re super confident in their deception skills and hacking. My point is, all of the information isn’t on the table yet.”

Tapper then interrupted: “Anthony, you’re making a lot of assertions here. I don’t know who this anonymous person is who said that if the Russians had actually done it, we wouldn’t have been able to detect it.”

“How about it was the President, Jake?” Scaramucci fired back. “I talked to him yesterday. He called me from Air Force One, and he basically said to me, ‘Hey, you know, this is, maybe they did it, maybe they didn’t do it.’”

Tapper proceeded to list all of the U.S. intelligence agencies who do believe that Russia had a hand in the election: “This is exactly the issue here. We have experts, the U.S. intelligence agencies, unanimous, both Obama appointees and Trump appointees, the director of National Intelligence, the head of the National Security Agency, the head of the F.B.I.—I mean, all of these intelligence experts saying Russia hacked the election, they tried to interfere in the election. No votes were changed, but there was this disinformation and misinformation campaign. President Trump is contradicting it, and you’re siding with President Trump!”

Scaramucci, however, seemed not to entirely understand Tapper’s point. “He hasn’t made the decision yet to sign that bill one way or the other,” he said. “And so, when he makes that decision, I will one hundred percent side with him, because I’m his communications director and I’m his advocate on a show like this.”