So Julian Vigo, mother of a son, got pissed off about female-only space and started a firestorm in fake radfem land about the subject. After temporarily deleting her Facebook, where she initially complained, she decided to utilize her platform on the website Counterpunch, to have the last word and basically take a huge dump on women and girls who want or create female-only space. Of course, you can’t leave comments on the monumental tantrum she published, which is just as well. Because my response to her bullshit is too long for a comment.

Can we just start with the fact that the word “misandry” is in the fucking headline of her essay? Every MRA on the fucking internet paints feminism, even the fake-ass liberal kind, as “misandry,” which is the highfalutin term for man-hating. The fucking pricks decided they needed to use the linguistic equivalent of the word “misogyny” when raving about feminist women or even non-feminist women who have any objection whatsoever to their violent, predatory, woman-hating, oppressive horseshit. So right off the bat, Vigo lets you know what side she’s on. She’s spewing basic anti-feminist vitriol she got from men. On a male-dominated, male-owned and operated website.

Julian Vigo is not a radical feminist. She never has been and clearly never will be. She’s yet another Leftist woman who found her way to fake “radfem” land via her criticism of the trans cult. I haven’t seen her refer to herself as a radical feminist or radfem, but evidently other anti-feminist, anti-trans women who pretend they’re radfems consider her one because she shares their politics. If you want to see for yourself that she’s a Leftist, anti-feminist and anti-trans woman, go skim through her published articles.

I’m going to repeat this every chance I get until the world recognizes these posers for what they are: radical feminism is not just about opposing the trans cult or porn and prostitution. It never has been. These women need to stop calling themselves radical feminists just because they think it sounds cool and own up to the fact that they’re the same liberals and Leftists they were before the trans cult took over liberal and Leftist discourse and drove them out of those political sectors of the population. Make your own God damn anti-trans or anti-porn liberal and Leftist communities, online spaces, organizations, parties, etc. You are not feminists, you don’t get to rewrite radical feminism’s history, you don’t get to pull a fucking bullshit male reversal and call the real radical/lesbian feminists fake or misogynistic. Fuck off.

On to this woman’s article.

“I found myself set upon by dozens of so-called “radical feminists.” I am obliged to put this term in quotation marks to refer to these women since this brand of radical feminism seems to have been hijacked by individuals who are very much out of touch with what feminism is about (eg. women), much less anything related to the tenets of radical feminism.”

Female-only space has been the heart of radical feminism since day fucking one, you asshole. Radical feminism wouldn’t even EXIST if not for female-only space, where it was fucking developed. You’re the one who’s an anti-feminist, anti-woman, male loyalist here, not the women who want and support actual female-only space. You and your fucking fellow anti-trans liberal/Lefty women are the ones who are fucking hijacking the term “radical feminism” in order to co-opt and neutralize it. Female-only space and female separatism ARE about women and girls. No other act is more female-centering and female-loving than creating female-only space where women and girls can be safe and free and focused on each other. For you to pull this mindfuck male reversal, saying female-only space is about men, is vile manipulation and deception in service of males, not to mention totally illogical. How the fuck is women and girls voluntarily separating from males to be with each other about men instead of those women and girls?

I’ll tell you what the fuck YOUR tantrum has really been about since you posted that status on your Facebook page and what all the rage and protest from other mothers of sons in reaction to female-only space has always been about: ya’ll can’t fucking stand the idea of other women denying you the chance to parade yourself around as a mother of a male and subsequently have your ass kissed and your male progeny fawned over. And you know who feels the exact same rage and offense at female-only space and female separatism that you feel? Men. Every last one of you sounds like a fucking man, in this argument.

“What kicked this shit storm off was when a post I made last week on my timeline regarding a feminist event this summer which I might have been interested in attending.”

Oh, you MIGHT have been interested in attending? Just be fucking honest and say that you don’t even care about this allegedly feminist event. You never planned on going, you’re just pissed off the event has a female-only policy. Because that’s how insane men and male loyalist women like you are: the mere possibility women you don’t even know, anywhere in the world, could intentionally create female-only space fucking offends you on principle, even when it has zero fucking impact on your life.

“As a mother to two small children, my participation in such events is entirely related to my ability to bring my children with me, especially when an event is not a local one-day affair. So as with all logistical communications, I wrote and asked if I could bring my children aged two and five.”

Notice how Vigo never uses the word “son” in her piece to refer to her son. Not once. She only uses the word “children,” effectively obscuring her son’s maleness even though it’s implied at least one of her offspring is male because she can’t bring them to female-only space. She didn’t write her essay carelessly. She consciously used the word “children” instead of “son.” Probably to reinforce in the reader’s mind the supposed harmlessness of her underage son and to create the illusion that there is no difference whatsoever between female children and male children.

I have to stop and point this out because it’s important: Julian Vigo and so many of the other white mothers of sons who will argue to kingdom come about female-only space being “anti-woman” and “anti-mother” are not poor or working class. Most of them are also not women of color, let alone poor or working class women of color. Vigo has a fucking PhD, a vacation home in Italy, and intentionally chose to reproduce as a single mother, and she’s not raising those kids in the gutter on welfare. She can damn well afford to pay for a babysitter for one weekend, if she needs to or wants to, and so can many of the other class-privileged, white mothers of sons who tried to argue that female-only space is exclusionary of mothers who can’t afford childcare on the RARE occasion female-only events they can afford to attend in the first place actually happen.

I am so fucking tired of racist-ass white women and class-privileged women, almost all of whom are heterosexual or het-partnered, using women of color and class-oppressed women as rhetorical devices to attack something like female-only space. You’re not fucking mad that the hypothetical poor/working class mother of sons, who may be black or brown, can’t attend the female-only event because she has no one to leave her underage son with. You’re just pissed off that YOU, white middle-class mother, can’t force your male offspring onto other women and girls. That’s what the fuck you’re mad about. So shut the fuck up about the class-oppressed black and brown mothers of sons you don’t even fucking know and don’t belong to, who aren’t even in this God damn argument complaining about female-only space.

Any woman who cares about little girls is going to be fucking supportive of female-only space for those girls and suspicious of male children old enough to walk, talk, and physically access girls at will. Especially given how these fucking heterosexual parents start grooming their children into heterosexuality from the jump, allowing male children to physically force themselves onto female children and act like the shit is funny and cute. If you hetero and bi and even brainwashed, probably ex-het lesbian mothers of sons want to protest that young males are “innocent” and “harmless,” prove you can fucking act right as parents and strictly enforce the physical boundaries of little girls.

One way you know Vigo and most, if not all, of these other mothers of sons on her side are class-privileged—meaning middle or upper class from childhood and certainly now as adults—is the way they act like they’re entitled to every fucking space for women on the God damn planet, whether they actually have any genuine interest in being there or not. They can’t just fucking accept that some spaces aren’t meant for them or that being unwilling to leave their underage male children means they CHOOSE to opt out of female-only space. No, they think the whole fucking world should accommodate their demands, and fuck whoever is inconvenienced by it. All that matters is what they want. And what do they want? They want to go to sleep at night knowing their male spawn can walk into any space he pleases on the face of the earth, no matter how anyone in that space feels about his presence. That kind of fucking self-centered entitlement to space is a class-privileged attitude all over. They’re so used to being able to go wherever they please, they’re utterly incensed when they’re denied access to a space—especially by women they see as inferior to them. (Lesbians, childfree women, working class women, etc.)

“It is as if these women emerged from medieval alchemy whereby the site of evil, the male as misogyny par excellence, is the contagion and not the social and political structures into which we are all inculcated.”

And here is the philosophical and political question that determines whether a true radical feminist follows feminism to the logical conclusion of separatism or whether she stops short: are males violent, woman-hating, lesbian-hating rapists because they were socialized that way or because they were born with the predisposition? Is every male a blank slate at birth who somehow learns—despite his saintly mother and Good Guy father—how to be a sexist, abusive, predatory piece of shit or was he born with the impulses, desires, and entitlement that make it inevitable?

Personally, I think males are innately violent and sexually predatory as a category, and socialization makes them worse. No other explanation makes any sense. Likewise, women and girls are categorically non-violent and sexually benign. There are exceptions to every rule, so of course in each sex, there are individuals who break pattern. But the overwhelming majority of males are violent or predatory or both, while the overwhelming majority of females are not. And these patterns have been consistent worldwide for thousands of years, across cultures and time periods and religions and races. The blank slate theory of human development, when it comes to behavioral sex differences between males and females, doesn’t add up. If it did, all of these mothers would’ve figured out by now how to excise violence and rape from the males they raise. Unless, for some reason, they deliberately want male violence to continue.

Whichever origin theory of male violence and male sexual predation you believe in, the bottom line is males are violent and predatory, and the mommies of the world sure as hell don’t have any control over that. Underage males have been engaging in sexual abuse of other children and physical violence to varying degrees since long before internet porn became accessible to them 24/7. This is nothing new. Actual radical and lesbian feminists were talking about this shit in the 70s, many of them victims of underage males in childhood. So it is completely rational, sensible, and reasonable for women—particularly childfree women, lesbians, and mothers of daughters—who have any feminist consciousness whatsoever to desire female-only space for themselves and girls and to be avoidant of underage males in daily life as much as they may be avoidant of adult males.

One of the most vile and insidious displays by these mothers of sons has been the dismissal and mockery of underage girls being sexually and/or physically abused by their male peers. The meme created by Chazz Brandon, referenced in Julian Vigo’s essay, was created to mock a woman who shared her story of being sexually molested as a little girl by a 4 year old boy. It should be crystal clear to anyone with brain activity that these mothers who react to stories of little girls being victimized by males aren’t feminists in ANY fucking universe or dimension of time. In fact, they’re probably the kind of women who end up protecting their adult rapist sons from punishment and legal action, knowing the demonic pricks are guilty and not giving a shit about their female victims.

I’m going to cut out the horribly written, convoluted first part of this sentence which compares feminists who want female-only space to Republican men and just present you with the important part:

“the emotionally-charged branding of young male children as potential rapists.”

Does this grown-ass woman with a fucking PhD understand that all adult and teenage male rapists were once children? I guess not. I guess, despite the fact she referenced a study which mentioned males as young as 9 years old committing rape of other children, she’s decided that all teenage and adult male rapists emerged from the fucking ether already post-pubescent, like the goddess Athena from Zeus’ head, no holy mother in sight. (See, Vigo, you’re not the only one who can use a fucking Greek mythological allusion to enhance your point and lord your education over readers to make yourself seem like the smartest person in the dialogue.)

And by the way, don’t allow any mother of a male to con you into believing there’s a lower age limit for male sexual predators. Male preschoolers are out there sexually assaulting their peers. And no, they are not all being sexually abused themselves by adults. Some of them are just watching hardcore porn already. And whose fault is that? Who’s responsible for pacifying these kids with fucking tablets and smart phones and TV, giving them access to online porn?

No matter how rare it is–and it’s less rare than Vigo and her mother cronies insist–pre-pubescent males raping and sexually assaulting other children happens. Which means there are little girl victims of these pricks. One female victim is too many. And any mother of a son who dares to disagree, who dares to suggest a certain number of female sex crime victims is acceptable, is a fucking piece of shit who shouldn’t exist.

“As these women sung their version of a fundamentalist feminism, the chorus couched their desire for female-only spaces as the “loving of other women.” It is the comic bordering on the insane, with a heavy dose of the very patriarchy these women claim to be fighting tossed into the mix.”

You know heterosexual and bisexual women and mothers of sons are totally fucking incapable of loving other women when they ridicule the very idea of it, then call it patriarchy. Are you shitting me?

I’m going to say it again and probably a few more times: she sounds like a fucking man. That’s what all of these male-loving women sound like when they whine about and attack female-only spaces and female separatists. Just like the men they fuck and create.

Imagine what kind of mental gymnastics you would have to perform to tell yourself women and girls getting together in female-only space to talk and connect and focus on each other is an expression of patriarchy, which literally means “rule of the father” and references the hierarchical male power system in which all males rank above all females. Imagine believing female-only space is patriarchal but male-dominated space is feminist. Just sit with that for a minute and really contemplate it. Allow the bullshit to permeate your soul.

I have to take it here, because this is where it all goes. Lesbians. Women loving only other women. This hatred of female-separatism comes from the same place where hatred for lesbians originates. A lesbian is a woman who declares her body a female-only space. And her heart too, especially if she’s a separatist or even just a child-free woman. And no human being in the history of this world is as hated as the lesbian.

You white heterosexual and bisexual mothers want to talk about women of color? How about lesbians of color? Childfree women of color? Women of color who only have daughters and want to take them to female-only space? You fucking sell-outs. You fucking hypocritical, manipulative, cock-sucking traitors of your sex. You want to fucking pretend your issue with women and girls denying your sons access to them is about black and brown heterosexual mothers of sons who don’t have any money? What about the black and brown lesbians of the world? What about the childfree lesbians of color who want the briefest temporary relief from their oppressor? Are you so concerned about them?

No. You white, middle-class, heterosexual and bisexual assholes act like childfree lesbians of color don’t exist. Like there isn’t a single childfree woman on earth.

You actually fucking argue that female-only space excludes women? Are you fucking kidding me? The only women excluded from female-only space are women who refuse to show up without males. YOUR God damn CHOICE to bring your males everywhere is not the fault of any female-only space. You aren’t being excluded for having created a new male, your sons are being excluded, and it’s YOUR choice and YOUR responsibility to decide you can’t go anywhere without them. If you don’t want to leave them at home even when you can, FINE. Then you CHOOSE not to enter female-only space. Period. Nobody’s fucking denying you entry. Show up by yourself, and the women will accept you. You’re choosing not to go so that you can stay with your sons. Jesus Christ, are all mothers fucking allergic to personal accountability?

“Indeed, for many women making a humanist argument for feminism, stating that feminism is not about individuals but structures, the response was consistently U-turned back to “all-female spaces.” But for those of us alarmed by the constant references to “penis-free spaces,” it became quickly clear that this debate was never about all-female spaces. This was about enforcing patriarchy 2.0 fiercely spun against women who had any contact with males, to include those who had procreated them.”

So here’s another great reminder that Julian Vigo is not a feminist. She’s a Leftist maybe, an egalitarian who, like most liberals, want to redefine feminism to mean “equality of the sexes” instead of female liberation from male oppression. She’s got a problem with the trans cult but not with men and the horrific shit they do to women and girls. She only takes issue with the males who inconvenience her personally.

How fucking hilarious is it that she accuses women who support female-only space of individualism when she literally makes the morality and acceptability of female-only space all about HER fucking feelings, life, convenience, and male spawn? She doesn’t give a fuck about other women and girls. She doesn’t care what the women who are actually fucking RUNNING the event in question want for their own space, she just cares about having her fucking choice to breed males publicly affirmed and validated. But she’s going to lecture actual feminists on taking a political stance based on structural analysis? Fuck off, you asshat.

Why does she put female-only spaces and penis-free spaces in scare quotes? Why does she take every fucking opportunity to mock these spaces and insinuate they are meaningless, silly, frivolous, and inauthentic? You’re fucking ALARMED by the concept of female-only space? WHO CARES? You’re not fucking obligated to be in those spaces! Stay the fuck home, if you want to.

Female-only space is patriarchy 2.0? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.

Do you understand what the fuck patriarchy is, Julian? With your doctorate degree having ass. Do you need me to fucking define it for you right now?

Patriarchy is MALE POWER. Patriarchy is RULE OF THE FATHER, RULE OF THE MALE. Patriarchy is MALES OPPRESSING FEMALES. Patriarchy is MALES CONTROLLING FEMALES. Patriarchy is MALES TREATING FEMALES LIKE OBJECTS THEY CAN FUCK AND BREED ANYTIME THEY WANT AND USE FOR FREE DOMESTIC LABOR. THAT’s fucking patriarchy.

And you have the fucking audacity to call intentional, feminist female-only space PATRIARCHY?

FUCK YOU. Fuck every male you’ve ever fucked, fuck every male you serve, and fuck your son.

“Identity politics gone amok with these self-styled “radical feminists” who have basically fashioned a new ideology by stitching together neo-liberal tropes to an identity politics of victimhood. Lacking any sort of structural critique of sex-based inequality or even a coherent political narrative, these women have passed the ball to the so-called “privileged mothers” who are shamed for procreating on the one hand, and then falsely painted as bourgeois and wealthy on the other.”

Maybe if your ignorant ass had actually read ANY fucking radical and lesbian feminist text from the 60s and 70s, let alone been in those feminist spaces in person, you would fucking know that recognizing the political and personal importance of female-only space and female separatism is not a new God damn ideology. It’s not an ideology at all. It’s strategy. It’s a method of feminist resistance and self-care.

And there you go with the fucking wrong-ass use of the term “neo-liberal,” which refers to an economic policy of free market capitalism totally unregulated by any state and the derivative political idea that only the individual exists as a consumer and worker, not any collective group of people with common political interests and struggles. How the fuck are feminist women who want female-only space exhibiting neo-liberal politics, Julian? HOW?

An identity politics of victimhood? YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKING MAN. Since when is feminism identity politics? Womanhood is not a fucking identity; I thought you knew that because you’re against the trans cult. And accusing women of wallowing in victimhood simply for calling out male behavior and wanting to separate from males is LITERALLY WHAT EVERY MEN’S RIGHTS ACTIVIST HAS BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS.

Who the fuck are you to tell women and girls you don’t even KNOW that we don’t have the right to female-only space and if we create it or want it, we have a victim mentality? FUCK YOU.

And if you were fucking capable of pulling your head out of male power’s ass for long enough to actually look around and acknowledge reality, you would fucking see that the highest status a woman can have ANYWHERE in the fucking world is motherhood. That’s why douche bags like you think childfree people are immoral, especially childfree women. And WHY do mothers get their asses kissed like no other group of females, in male-dominated and male-controlled society? This requires actual critical thinking, Julian, so don’t fucking strain yourself as you search for the answer.

“Who knew that women having children would upset the neo-liberal “radical feminist” who views herself as emancipated merely because she has earmarked children as oppressive!”

No actual feminist anywhere thinks of herself as emancipated based on her understanding of underage males as oppressive. This is a straw man argument Julian’s created to give her audience a false image of feminists and other women who support and desire female-only space. What few feminists there are in the world are fully aware we are not and never will be free of male oppression, as long as males exist and women like Vigo fucking sell out to them.

Again, she uses the word “children” instead of boys to suggest female-only space supporters have a problem with and exclude girls as much as boys, which is a lie. Again, she tosses out the term “neo-liberal” where it means fuck all, but she’s published this piece on a male Leftist website, and Christ knows they love whipping out the term as a smear even when it’s utterly misused in context.

“Thinking of this encounter over the past week, I was happily reminded by many radical feminists who have not confused trauma for solidarity of the importance of including mothers in their events.”

I guarantee that the majority of these women Vigo refers to are not radical feminists. Not even in the same fucking universe, politically. Most, if not all, of the women who rallied around her are the same kind of anti-trans, fake “radfem” women who range from Right Wing to Left Wing, with a lot of centrist liberals in the mix, all of them brought together by their legitimate opposition to the trans cult. And when they encounter actual radical feminism, especially lesbian feminism, this is how they react: with outrage, tantrums, and denial that the radical feminism created long before they gave a fuck about gender identity bullshit and turned “radical feminist” into an identity, is exactly the kind of feminism that rejects their cooperation with males.

In true motherly fashion, they insist on their own rank at the top of the female hierarchy, which they got from men. How DARE we lowly childfree women, many of us lesbians, deny them anything they want? How dare we DISOBEY them? Isn’t that the fucking quintessential mother bullshit? Demanding obedience and assuming godlike authority? “Because I said so,” right? You have to do whatever mommy dearest tells you to do, just because she said so. And if you disobey, she’ll get mad.

Funny that Vigo and other mothers like her deny so vehemently that mother privilege, mother worship, whatever you want to call it, exists—because all they’ve done in this weeklong fight is display their own egotistical self-importance and self-absorption, which results from society treating them like the most important women in the universe everywhere they fucking go. They’re so used to being centered and praised for their choice to reproduce, ESPECIALLY if they have sons, that they think their needs, desires, and opinions must take priority at all times. And childfree women, especially lesbians, don’t have the RIGHT to contradict them or say no to them or prioritize OUR needs and desires and feelings over theirs. Ever. That’s what they fucking feel. Even if they never have the guts to say it that plainly to your face. They’ve bought into all the patriarchal horseshit like “the most important thing a woman can do is raise children” and they live with their heads up their own asses, bloated with arrogance and entitlement. The same kind of entitlement their sons are born with.

These mothers think all “feminist” events must be operated on THEIR terms. They have to be the authority figures, the leaders, of the “feminist” movement. But radical feminism has no leaders. No celebrities. No hierarchy. Suck on that, mother.

And another resounding FUCK YOU, Vigo, for that line about confusing trauma for solidarity. Just fuck off into the sun. How fucking dare you ridicule and dismiss women coming together in feminism as they recognize their SHARED OPPRESSION? THAT’S WHAT FEMINISM IS FUCKING ABOUT. Do you not fucking understand how the liberatory politics of the oppressed works, dumbass? Would you ever fucking accuse black people of confusing trauma for solidarity when they unite against white power or choose to become black separatists? Actually, who knows, you might fucking do that shit because you’re white and class-privileged, after all, and if this is your fucking attitude toward feminism and female separatism, there’s no reason to expect anything different from you on every other political movement of oppressed people.

“Feminism—no matter what brand you call it—must be about structures, not individuals.”

You’re absolutely right, Julian. Feminism is not about your individual desire to force your son on other women and girls at all times. Feminism is about setting all females free from male terrorism, including the childfree women and the lesbians and the little girls whose mothers want them to have female-only space whether you fucking like it or not.

“We cannot create a movement for social reform and the advance of human rights of women based upon the reversal of atrocity or an “eye for an eye” type of vigilante feminism.”

HA! How the fuck is female-only space and female-separatism a reversal of all the oppression males have committed against females for millenia? Female-only space is the equivalent of men and boys raping females, Julian? Female-only space is the equivalent of males murdering women and girls on a DAILY basis? Female-only space is the equivalent of men denying females legal rights for centuries?

You want to talk about vigilante feminism, Vigo? I’ll tell you what vigilante feminism looks like: radical feminists going out there and executing every last male rapist, pedophile, pimp, pornographer, creep, capitalist, racist, lesbian-hater, female killer, etc. In the world. Regardless of age, race, religion, political party, etc. That’s an eye for an eye. And I, for one, would love it if we went there. It’ll never happen, but I enjoy the dream. And you can’t fucking stop me from dreaming it. Doesn’t that just drive you crazy?

“That model has proven throughout history not to work and we are constrained to cohabiting this planet together with be-penised bodies, like it or not.”

BULLSHIT. The ONLY reason women and girls are doomed to live in a world full of males is because women like you keep breeding new ones. That’s not fucking fate. That’s not unavoidable. That’s a CHOICE. You women CHOOSE to fucking fill this dying earth with more rapists, more killers, more nasty male terrorists. You CHOOSE to force all females in the world, including the lesbians and the childfree women and the little girls, to coexist with these fucking monsters and degenerates. Take some fucking responsibility for your God damn selves. Every single one of us who chooses not to breed is a testament to the fact that making more males is a fucking deliberate, optional act. And we childfree, separatist feminists are the ones being forced to live alongside your fucking garbage sons, whether we like it or not. The rest of you heterosexual and bisexual mothers do this shit voluntarily because you benefit from it. Don’t fucking act like you’re all just as forced to deal with males as the rest of us. Males don’t fall from the sky spontaneously. YOU fuck them and produce more. YOU are responsible for their existence and their numbers.

“Inasmuch as I am happy to support all-female spaces”

Oh, really, Julian? You fucking support female-only spaces? Because that’s not what you said in your fucking Facebook thread. You literally told other women that little girls don’t need female-only space. That’s what the fuck you said. You told mothers of daughters that THEIR daughters don’t need and should not be in female-only space. So you’re a fucking liar.

“It is hard to build a case for human rights when only those who do not reproduce are given any sort of social power and credibility”

Oh, my fucking god. Is this woman serious? Childfree women and especially childfree lesbians have no fucking social power or credibility in mainstream society ANYWHERE. We are in an extreme minority, outnumbered by parents who think anyone who rejects parenthood is fucking immoral. And that’s why mothers like Julian have a fucking meltdown when they encounter feminists who don’t immediately get on our hands and knees to kiss the ground they fucking walk on and submit to their will completely.

I’m not building a case for human rights, Vigo. I’m fighting for female well-being. I don’t give a fuck about the male oppressor, who is responsible for all human rights violations in the first place. Feminism is not about men and boys and their fucking interests. Feminism is about females. Period.

You’re not a fucking feminist. And that’s fine. But you don’t get to redefine feminism as egalitarian humanism. That’s the fucking move liberals have been pulling in their fake pop “feminism” for years. It’s co-optation and sabotage when they do it, and it’s co-optation and sabotage when you do it. And at the end of the day, egalitarian humanism is fucking bullshit; it’s just as male-centering and male-serving as every other philosophy and political approach that isn’t (radical) feminism.

“or where their dislike of the “penis” becomes that emblematic moment for a feminism where women who reproduce males are cannibalized for the cause.”

Why the fuck is penis in scare quotes? And why the fuck are you talking like a man again, turning your nose up at women who don’t like dick?

Jesus Christ, what a melodramatic fucking line. Cannibalized, Vigo? Really? Where the fuck are mothers of sons being eliminated from the feminist cause? Female-only spaces are not the feminist cause itself, and they’re so fucking rare anyway, that you can participate in feminism as much as you fucking please even if you never set foot in female-only space. Take your bullshit outside to the trash can where it belongs.

These mothers act like they’re being shut out of the entire fucking world if a handful of women create female-only space, despite the fact that the whole fucking PLANET is MALE space. Virtually all spaces, organizations, events, etc welcome males of all ages with open arms—because they’re run by males, owned by males, and devoid of feminism—but these mothers want to act like they’re being “isolated” and left without any community because somewhere in the fucking world, there’s a female-only event? Holy shit. Have you ever seen women act more male?

Why don’t these mothers of sons get together with each other in a specifically pro-male, pro-son, mother-only space? I don’t know any childfree woman, lesbian, or female separatist who would give a shit if they did. You want to cart your male children everywhere with you? Then attend the thousands of fucking son-friendly events available to you or start your own fucking event for mothers of sons, where you can all bring them along. Nobody’s stopping you.

The fact that these women want to sabotage and take away female-only space instead of creating their own spaces is identical to the trans cult wanting to do the same, identical to bisexuals wanting to invade homosexual space instead of making bisexual space, identical to white people objecting to black separatism, on and on and on. This shit is all about the oppressor hating and wanting to stop the oppressed from getting together in an oppression-free zone to experience peace, joy, and self-love. They can’t stand that shit. They have a rapist-mentality, like all males. If there’s a boundary that excludes them, they MUST violate it.

I cannot fucking believe the degree of entitlement, male loyalism, and misogyny the mothers of sons have relentlessly displayed. These women are fucking disgusting. Their desire and willingness to force their male spawn on women and girls, the way male rapists and predators force themselves onto women and girls, should make every feminist run the fuck away from these traitorous women. Their male pattern behavior—denying females the chance to separate from males, the disregard and violation of female boundaries, the advocating for male power and male interests at the expense of females, the mocking of female childhood sexual abuse victims, the gaslighting of women and girls with a healthy avoidance of males, the grooming of young girls into heterosexuality and submission to male demands—is fucking gross, and these women should not be anywhere near feminist spaces or underage girls or lesbians or childfree women, period. I truly feel sorry for Julian Vigo’s daughter. This woman doesn’t deserve a daughter.

It’s just as well these mothers of sons can’t go to feminist, female-only space due to their unwillingness to leave their sons at home. They’re fucking toxic. Woman-hating, girl-hating, lesbian-hating and enablers of male entitlement to female bodies and female attention. These mothers of sons and their allies are the antithesis of feminism. They’re the reason that women will never be free from male oppression. They’ll pretend to give a shit about female well-being, then turn around and do everything in their power to please, defend, and support males regardless of how they terrorize females. They will give predatory males access to female victims, then call those women and girls crazy for having a problem with it.

Treat these mothers of sons the way you ought to treat the trans cult: ignore them and do what the fuck you want. They have no authority over us, they are not entitled to our attention or submission or consideration, and they only have as much power over our lives as we willingly give them.

In the United States, we can legally do whatever the fuck we want on private property. We don’t owe anyone an explanation. If total strangers don’t like what you’re doing on your own property, they can fucking cry about it in their corner. Let them stay mad. It’s not our problem.

If you have daughters, protect them from males at all costs. And never apologize for it or question whether you’re being overprotective. This world is overflowing with sexually and physically abused girls who grow up into broken women. There is no such thing as being too protective of a girl. Not in a world infested with male rapists of all ages. If you can put your daughter in a female-only school or homeschool her away from males, do it.

Female-only space is the backbone, heart, and soul of radical feminism. Without it, feminist consciousness can’t exist. ALL girls and women have a right to female-only space, a right to become female separatists and lesbian separatists. Period.

Remember: despite Julian’s bullshit to the contrary, separating from males makes a woman or a girl safer, not more vulnerable. Separatism prevents female victimization, rather than promotes females seeing themselves as victims. (Jesus, what a mindfuck she pulled on that one.) You can’t get killed by a man you live with and fuck if you never live with and fuck males. You can’t be molested as a girl if you’re never left alone with the predatory male who would do it. You can’t be mistreated, victimized, tortured, etc. by a male who isn’t there.

The mommy agents of the male sex can go to hell with their Y chromosome spawn.

We all know they win in the end, simply due to their numbers. But damn if we feminists and female/lesbian separatists can’t fight them to our dying breath. And love each other, as women and lesbians, in female-only space.

Thank you to my lesbian feminist friend who alerted me to this drama and who was wise enough to screen shot the entire thread on Vigo’s Facebook post, which has since been deleted. I’m posting it here so that you can see for yourself what these mothers of sons said to women who want female-only space. You be the judge of whether these mothers are radical feminists and whether Vigo’s Counterpunch dump accurately reflects how she engaged with feminists in the original argument. I’ve highlighted what I found to be the most fucked up comments.

The Thread That Started It All