BigBirdy90 Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 120 Posts #1



Zerg had just kill off his 4th and 3rd and just as zerg is remaxing the zerg players gets DC'ed and someone clicks drop right away even after it was stated that "no one click drop". Honestly, I thought for sure this was going to a win for YorkU (my team) but it was ruled a regame. As you can see I'm a bit bias and that's what I want to know what you guys think. THANKS,



It should also be noted, that our player never lost internet connection, Skype was working fine and other programs.



Players: NMxStyX vs Chobittsu



Obs: XenoGeneral, ScMonk



REPLAY:





Poll: Do you think CSL made the right decision?



No (128)

64%



Yes (71)

36%



199 total votes (128)64%(71)36%199 total votes Your vote: Do you think CSL made the right decision? (Vote): Yes

(Vote): No







PS- We, YorkU, lost the rematch. Just wanted to get everyone opinion on a decision that was made during the ace match of the Canadian CSL championship between Waterloo and YorkU.Zerg had just kill off his 4th and 3rd and just as zerg is remaxing the zerg players gets DC'ed and someone clicks drop right away even after it was stated that "no one click drop". Honestly, I thought for sure this was going to a win for YorkU (my team) but it was ruled a regame. As you can see I'm a bit bias and that's what I want to know what you guys think. THANKS,It should also be noted, that our player never lost internet connection, Skype was working fine and other programs.Players: NMxStyX vs ChobittsuObs: XenoGeneral, ScMonkREPLAY: http://replayfu.com/r/Dq2mvm PS- We, YorkU, lost the rematch.

VPVanek Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 238 Posts #2 Doesn't NMXStyx hack... FoXer

dmasterding Profile Blog Joined January 2011 United States 205 Posts #3 I think it was correct. It's harder than you think to call it a win for a player - by doing so you are proclaiming, as a judge, that there is no possible way for the other player to come back (within reason). If the zerg is behind but has the possibility of making a huge comeback with a great engagement (and has the tools to scrap together the forces to do just this), then it's unfair to say that he lost. No tears now, only dreams.

BigBirdy90 Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 120 Posts Last Edited: 2012-06-23 23:01:31 #4 On June 24 2012 07:58 dmasterding wrote:

I think it was correct. It's harder than you think to call it a win for a player - by doing so you are proclaiming, as a judge, that there is no possible way for the other player to come back (within reason). If the zerg is behind but has the possibility of making a huge comeback with a great engagement (and has the tools to scrap together the forces to do just this), then it's unfair to say that he lost.



Did you watch replay, cause I think that there is no way of the protoss player coming back. He's mining off 1 base. Did you watch replay, cause I think that there is no way of the protoss player coming back. He's mining off 1 base.

Shiori Profile Blog Joined July 2011 3808 Posts #5 Protoss cannot come back from that scenario against a competent player. Denying a third and 4th is literally cause to GG on the spot.

EtherealDeath Profile Blog Joined July 2007 United States 8294 Posts Last Edited: 2012-06-23 23:07:16 #6 I watched replay. First, zerg did not remax. He was at 140s vs 100s supply. However, protoss nat was about to mine out. He had rebuilt his 3rd and had a good number of templar but none with storm yet, although storms were only 20s away. Now, the zerg was remaxing roaches. In about a 2 mins or so, it was going to be 1 base toss vs 2 base zerg, neither starting off with a bank, but the zerg with a better ground army. Could the zerg derp the game away by derping his units on an attack just as the storms came up? Well, Chobittsu had just made his nexus so he could start making gateway buffer, so it is possible.



Overall I'd say the zerg had the overwhelming odds, probably over 90%, but it wasn't quite outside of the realm of the zerg derping the game up. And shit does happen sometimes with regards to derping, even with gm players.



edit - Personally I've been like gg toss loses, but the CSL rules do state a rematch... so eh.

coL.hendralisk Profile Joined September 2009 Zimbabwe 1756 Posts #7 On June 24 2012 07:57 VPVanek wrote:

Doesn't NMXStyx hack...



You're thinking of NMxJvaljean who is not on the team (renamed himself now thankfully) You're thinking of NMxJvaljean who is not on the team (renamed himself now thankfully)

VPVanek Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 238 Posts #8 Its pretty obvious the zerg was about to win, I would be pretty mad as York.. FoXer

FXOTheoRy Profile Blog Joined July 2008 United States 514 Posts #9 Yeah I can't say that I agree with the decision, especially since you can avoid dropping the player xD. oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy

BigBirdy90 Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 120 Posts #10 On June 24 2012 08:08 VPVanek wrote:

Its pretty obvious the zerg was about to win, I would be pretty mad as York..



Thank you.... Thank you....

VPVanek Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 238 Posts #11 On June 24 2012 08:08 BigBirdy90 wrote:

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On June 24 2012 08:08 VPVanek wrote:

Its pretty obvious the zerg was about to win, I would be pretty mad as York..



Thank you.... Thank you....



Contact the head admins?

Im sure you've already done this though. Contact the head admins?Im sure you've already done this though. FoXer

BigBirdy90 Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 120 Posts #12 On June 24 2012 08:08 LgNTheoRy wrote:

Yeah I can't say that I agree with the decision, especially since you can avoid dropping the player xD.



It was stated, Don't drop him...and right away dropped... It was stated, Don't drop him...and right away dropped...

VPVanek Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 238 Posts #13 On June 24 2012 08:08 LgNTheoRy wrote:

Yeah I can't say that I agree with the decision, especially since you can avoid dropping the player xD.



Yeah why would York drop their own player who was about to win...

Do these admins use logic? xD Yeah why would York drop their own player who was about to win...Do these admins use logic? xD FoXer

EtherealDeath Profile Blog Joined July 2007 United States 8294 Posts #14 On June 24 2012 08:08 LgNTheoRy wrote:

Yeah I can't say that I agree with the decision, especially since you can avoid dropping the player xD.



Yeah pretty much. I tried to stretch it into an "ehhhhh MAYBE" in my post and even then its like, stretching it quite hard and requiring a huge load of derping by the zerg. Wonder what asshole hit the drop button... don't half the people in the game have to hit drop in order to drop the player? Half between the players and refs that is. Yeah pretty much. I tried to stretch it into an "ehhhhh MAYBE" in my post and even then its like, stretching it quite hard and requiring a huge load of derping by the zerg. Wonder what asshole hit the drop button... don't half the people in the game have to hit drop in order to drop the player? Half between the players and refs that is.

Steelavocado Profile Joined May 2010 United States 1135 Posts #15 Poor decision on CSL's end. Sorry YorkU MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP

BearStorm Profile Joined September 2010 United States 795 Posts Last Edited: 2012-06-23 23:15:39 #16 If the rules clearly state that a player cannot hit drop immediately (which it should) then the call could have been a lot easier. Clicking drop should have warranted a DQ. "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

BigBirdy90 Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 120 Posts #17 On June 24 2012 08:15 BearStorm wrote:

If the rules clearly state that a player cannot hit drop immediately (which it should) then the call could have been a lot easier. Clicking drop should have warranted a DQ.



Where?? Can't find it.. Where?? Can't find it..

Gamegene Profile Blog Joined June 2011 United States 8300 Posts #18 people need to get punished for this just so there's precedent for future matches. Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.

laLAlA[uC] Profile Blog Joined May 2009 Canada 953 Posts #19 Phoenix's reason is that as long as its not 100%, there is a chance to come back. Just compare it to MKP vs Parting... There's really no denying that zerg has a lead but its not a definite win. Protoss had an advantage early in the game but Zerg managed to come back. Things like DT's could have made it closer. Ultimately the decision has already been made and the fact that you went on TL and made a thread about it just shows how much of a sore loser you're being. I'm an old man now

BigBirdy90 Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 120 Posts Last Edited: 2012-06-23 23:22:26 #20 On June 24 2012 08:19 laLAlA[uC] wrote:

Phoenix's reason is that as long as its not 100%, there is a chance to come back. Just compare it to MKP vs Parting... There's really no denying that zerg has a lead but its not a definite win. Protoss had an advantage early in the game but Zerg managed to come back. Things like DT's could have made it closer. Ultimately the decision has already been made and the fact that you went on TL and made a thread about it just shows how much of a sore loser you're being.





DTs, he had spores at all bases from the 2sg's.



PS- Why did you guys click drop?? DTs, he had spores at all bases from the 2sg's.PS- Why did you guys click drop??

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