User Info: dwill2168 dwill2168 9 years ago #1



Okay, first off I will say that i am using the Gold Bars appearing in Dead Money To figure This Out





This is taken straight from the wiki



"If you look closely at the gold bar, you will see imprinted on the item that it weighs 10 oz when it actually weighs 35 lbs."



I am assuming that the Face value of the bars is correct, and not the in-game weight assigned to it.



You can get a total of 37 gold if you play it exactly right. I will not elaborate here. Ask someone else or look it up.



So that would be 370 oz of gold total.



10,539 is the total base value of caps per each gold bar. This is there optimum value in- game.



15,260 the amount of U.S. currency You could get for 10 oz of gold according to this website ( it looks very legit, no reason to doubt it i guess)



http://www.goldprice.org/



Therefore the total 370 ounces is worth 564,620 USD today, and worth 389,943 caps in 2281





This works out to about

1 Dollar =.69 Caps

and

1 Cap = 1.447 Dollars





so i guess inflation stops at some point, and money will be worth a little more in the Mojave in 2281 then it is worth now.



Of course anyone who remembers FO3's Wacky-ly different economy (in comparison neither is better in my opinion, they are just bizarrely different) would know that some how Guns that are in much shorter supply

( i guess, who even knows its fiction! this is all outside game mechanics really all kinds of guns in FO3) are worth 1/4th the amount they are worth in the Mojave where not only do they trade for new guns from the core region, they scavenge old ones, and wait for it.......Produce brand new ones on site in a local factory!





TL;DR-----



1 Dollar =.69 Caps

and

1 Cap = 1.447 Dollars http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Gold_barOkay, first off I will say that i am using the Gold Bars appearing in Dead Money To figure This OutThis is taken straight from the wikiI am assuming that the Face value of the bars is correct, and not the in-game weight assigned to it.You can get a total of 37 gold if you play it exactly right. I will not elaborate here. Ask someone else or look it up.So that would be 370 oz of gold total.10,539 is the total base value of caps per each gold bar. This is there optimum value in- game.15,260 the amount of U.S. currency You could get for 10 oz of gold according to this website ( it looks very legit, no reason to doubt it i guess)http://www.goldprice.org/Therefore the total 370 ounces is worth 564,620 USD today, and worth 389,943 caps in 2281This works out to about1 Dollar =.69 Capsand1 Cap = 1.447 Dollarsso i guess inflation stops at some point, and money will be worth a little more in the Mojave in 2281 then it is worth now.Of course anyone who remembers FO3's Wacky-ly different economy (in comparison neither is better in my opinion, they are just bizarrely different) would know that some how Guns that are in much shorter supply( i guess, who even knows its fiction! this is all outside game mechanics really all kinds of guns in FO3) are worth 1/4th the amount they are worth in the Mojave where not only do they trade for new guns from the core region, they scavenge old ones, and wait for it.......Produce brand new ones on site in a local factory!TL;DR-----1 Dollar =.69 Capsand1 Cap = 1.447 Dollars

User Info: ___Django___ ___Django___ 9 years ago #2

The reason I dislike this is because everything has a different value due to barter skills.



A more interesting thing to see would be the rate of Legion currency against NCR bills. That would be a fixed amount due to how it interacts with the barter function. |¯¯\ _|¯|

|__/ |__|¤ «Enough data to choke a whale» As much as I applaud you for working out a set rate, it's not set.The reason I dislike this is because everything has a different value due to barter skills.A more interesting thing to see would be the rate of Legion currency against NCR bills. That would be a fixed amount due to how it interacts with the barter function.

User Info: Finnegan Finnegan 9 years ago #3 QVANTI CANICVLA ILLE IN FENESTRA Very cool thought, dwill! Thanks for running the numbers. :)

User Info: dwill2168 dwill2168 (Topic Creator) 9 years ago #4 ___Django___ posted...

As much as I applaud you for working out a set rate, it's not set.

The reason I dislike this is because everything has a different value due to barter skills.



A more interesting thing to see would be the rate of Legion currency against NCR bills. That would be a fixed amount due to how it interacts with the barter function.



this is for the face value of the gold at optimum barter skill



figure out the amount of money you get per bar in your own game and just divide that by 10. the bars are labeled 10oz, so dividing by ten will give you the caps/oz that you are getting.



find out the new cost of gold which has apparently just been updated and changed to 1540 US dollars. no make that 1541. i think the high value of future currency is giving the gold market confidence XD 1541.6 now.



but srsly all my calculations are a bit off already, because gold is worth more all the time, as our paper money degrades in value almost constantly in today's economy. It is close enough to correct for the next few days though. I might check and update this regularly.



Gold in Fallout is at a fixed price, at least it is agreed by the game engine at a base value anyway. It will make it easy to keep track.



the players individual barter skill just adds an added layer to the game. the value doesnt change, just how well you can convince someone to give you full price for your goods, which is harder to do with the gold.



edit---gold is now at 1544.46 BTW

User Info: dwill2168 dwill2168 (Topic Creator) 9 years ago #5 according to my currency exchange rate, a 9mm pistol, which costs is worth 100 caps base value, would be worth about $144.70



The Cheapest 9mm i could find online for sale cost about $350.



Looks like w have a pretty bad barter skill, or we have much higher quality 9's available now then fallout's pre war world did. or they are just cheaper in the Mojave for the number of reasons they could be, while being of equal quality.



gold is down to $1542.50 now

User Info: Alesandros Alesandros 9 years ago #6 Looks like we have a bad barter skill..."



lol Non mihi, non tibi, sed nobis. . . ^ "lol

User Info: jakezing33 jakezing33 9 years ago #7 xbox live: ssteiner209

steam: Jakezing considering caps are backed by water...

User Info: dwill2168 dwill2168 (Topic Creator) 9 years ago #8 jakezing33 posted...

considering caps are backed by water...



i was just using the value of gold in caps and dollars to compare their worth.



what the currency is backed with doesnt matter here. our currency is backed by nothing technically. its just tied to a bunch of other currency. gold/silver backed money FTW





edit-in the first post i used a "there" when it should have been a "their"



Sorry SO sorry Everybody!!!

User Info: Akridosity Akridosity 9 years ago #9 jakezing33 posted...

considering caps are backed by water...



Wrong. Caps are backed by the fact that they cannot be produced anymore, so there is a set amount in the waste.



NCR money is backed by water. It's a virus, that freezes you to death. Wrong. Caps are backed by the fact that they cannot be produced anymore, so there is a set amount in the waste.NCR money is backed by water.