From: kori_to_kukki

2010-01-14 09:08 pm (UTC)

seems like there's definitely a reason why this newspaper is considered to be rubbish. From: corridor7f

2010-01-14 09:15 pm (UTC)

I feel bad for wives of public figures - for some reason they always have to be there, yet get picked apart like you wouldn't believe.



Even the flattering stuff makes me sick - Michelle Obama ain't a fashion icon, people, sorry. From: halrenna

2010-01-14 10:59 pm (UTC)

Did you hear about the horrible things people were saying in ONTD about Pierce Brosnan's wife because of her figure? :( Absolutely absolutely horrifying. From: dernhelm1982

2010-01-15 01:11 am (UTC)

I feel badly for them too. Everything from their hair to their bodies are picked apart, scruitinized, and mocked.



I think I'd laugh like hell if one of them just turned around and gave the media the middle finger. From: philstar22

2010-01-15 02:50 am (UTC)

Yes, this. Also, their looks and style of dress are always the things most commented on. Who cares what the president's wife thinks about issues or is actually doing in her life. Why don't we discuss what clothes she was wearing yesterday and how our opinion on why she shouldn't have worn that somehow matters. From: meriel_leirem

2010-01-15 08:32 am (UTC)

absolutely, and if you ask me the issue is even worse for female politicians. Who cares what her hair looks like and what she's wearing if she's a head of state/minister/parlamentarian/senator? I do assume/hope she got that position because of her abilities, not because the voters wanted someone pretty to talk about.

(and they can't ever do it right either, I remember how people were gossiping when Angela Merkel did not care about her appearance and it only got worse when she finally had stylists during her campaign and even worse when she wore a dress once (!) to an opera (!) how daring!) From: saciel

2010-01-15 02:56 pm (UTC)

Angela Merkel is a feminists horror anyways.

First we could be lucky to have a female head of state, then they made PR of it: "Vote for ME! Cause I have a VAGINA, just like you!" And people actually fell for it. I talked to so many people who had no idea who Merkel was, what she ever did, what she was doing at that time and which program and ethics she followed. They just saw: HAS VAGINA, MUST VOTE.



Ugh that made me feel so bad :/



And then the whole dress issue... ew, she clothers herself now actually like a woman, how dare she to be well endowed? From: meriel_leirem

2010-01-15 03:40 pm (UTC)

absolutely, I don't agree with many of her political opinions, but the situation was really ridiculous "omg, let's vote her, she's a woman, now we're cool because we voted for a woman - oh no, now she actually looks like a woman, how horrible", they like her if she's "das Merkel" From: apis_cerana

2010-01-14 10:01 pm (UTC)

"Hängen"?! Lol



That's some stupid bullshit right there. Sad that there are quite a few assholes even among ~*~enlightened~*~ Switzerland. :( From: meriel_leirem

2010-01-14 10:28 pm (UTC)



Nowadays women are well represented in our government, on any level, but enlightenment is still nowhere to be seen. [warning, I'm leaving the topic of sexism now and talking about other politic al topics ;)] Just the last weeks there was a huge debate in the public and in the media because a conservative party (we have 4-5 big and important parties, this is the biggest and the loudest, maybe there's a connection there) has lanced a campaign against the "german sleaze" at our universities and when professors protested they simply called the statement 200 professors signed against their campaign "left and marxist" and that was their argument. This is the same party by the way which lanced and supported the initiative for a law against building minarets - it's not like we have a huge problem with muslims, there's never been an extremist attack in Switzerland and we only have 4 minarets to begin with. The initiative passed against all predictions with a majority of 58%. There's really not a lot enlightenment to be seen in Switzerland lately, I'm afraid.

(If you like Jon Stewart watch this: yes, the headline translates to "Ladina let her breasts hang" I'm not sure you can call Switzerland enlightened. Especially not concerning sexism. Do you know when Switzerland introduced the women's right to vote on state level? 1971. But certain cantons didn't care, after someone finally sued, 20 years later, the last canton was forced to introduce it in 1991, against the vote of the male citizens.Nowadays women are well represented in our government, on any level, but enlightenment is still nowhere to be seen. [warning, I'm leaving the topic of sexism now and talking about other politic al topics ;)] Just the last weeks there was a huge debate in the public and in the media because a conservative party (we have 4-5 big and important parties, this is the biggest and the loudest, maybe there's a connection there) has lanced a campaign against the "german sleaze" at our universities and when professors protested they simply called the statement 200 professors signed against their campaign "left and marxist" and that was their argument. This is the same party by the way which lanced and supported the initiative for a law against building minarets - it's not like we have a huge problem with muslims, there's never been an extremist attack in Switzerland and we only have 4 minarets to begin with. The initiative passed against all predictions with a majority of 58%. There's really not a lot enlightenment to be seen in Switzerland lately, I'm afraid.(If you like Jon Stewart watch this: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-3-2009/oliver-s-travels---switzerland From: apis_cerana

2010-01-14 10:41 pm (UTC)

Ugh, that is sickening. :( I didn't know womens' sufferage was introduced THAT late. Even my home country of Japan, which some folks in the west see as having sexist practices, started letting women vote in 1945.

The whole anti-Muslim (and in some cases African) sentiments in European countries really gets to me because it's clearly xenophobic/racist even when they pretend that it's not. From: meriel_leirem

2010-01-14 11:04 pm (UTC)



and your second point is absolutely true, and I sometimes feel it's especially bad in Switzerland, just compare it with Germany's NPD, an extreme right wing party which only hasn't been outlawed yet because they want to be able to keep an eye on them, a many of their supporters are known as neo-nazis and there's regularly outrage about their campaigns and ideas. It's just that some those ideas and campaigns aren't that far away from those of the SVP, which plays an important role in Swiss politics. In fact the NPD has already gotten in trouble in the past for "stealing" the ideas for poster-ads from the SVP, to be more concrete the "sheep-poster" where you can see white sheep kicking out black sheep. Which of course only plays on the symbol of the "black sheep", not on skin colour, that's what they say. And minarets are missiles. Just look at this list: http://www.ipu.org/wmn-e/suffrage.htm and be shocked that this many countries could introduce the right to vote before a country that is well known for it's democratic tradition :(and your second point is absolutely true, and I sometimes feel it's especially bad in Switzerland, just compare it with Germany's NPD, an extreme right wing party which only hasn't been outlawed yet because they want to be able to keep an eye on them, a many of their supporters are known as neo-nazis and there's regularly outrage about their campaigns and ideas. It's just that some those ideas and campaigns aren't that far away from those of the SVP, which plays an important role in Swiss politics. In fact the NPD has already gotten in trouble in the past for "stealing" the ideas for poster-ads from the SVP, to be more concrete the "sheep-poster" where you can see white sheep kicking out black sheep. Which of course only plays on the symbol of the "black sheep", not on skin colour, that's what they say. And minarets are missiles. From: saciel

2010-01-15 02:59 pm (UTC)

thats the problem, in Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, Austra and Switzerland are many NPD like organisations very, very powerful.

But nobody cares because everyone looks only at Germany.



(Sadly, in the past 10 years it's all like Weimar Republic again, the news act out against left-wings, while obviously right-wing criminals are pardoned) From: akai_senshi

2010-01-14 10:14 pm (UTC)

Three words: Tabloids. Are. Stupid.



And the headline that she "let her boobs hang out" was a little...erm...crass. (Deleted comment) From: meriel_leirem

2010-01-14 11:44 pm (UTC)

the picture is from the gallery of the japanese brand fairy wish ( http://fairy-wish.com/ ), I don't own anything from that brand (yet), but I love their things From: sexyhorny

2010-01-15 05:36 pm (UTC)

pretty stuff :) But the prices... O.o From: sexyhorny

2010-01-15 03:22 pm (UTC)

Yeah they look totally normal to me as well :/ I don't see anything wrong. It annoys me how certain magazine columnists discuss and criticize bodies of others, like how they look and always pick on something and especially private parts like boobs. I think maybe columnist is jealous she has cute husband or something XD