On a recent episode of “The Trews,” Russell Brand sits down with author and activist Daniel Pinchbeck on a white bed to discuss what changes need to come about in order for Earth and humanity to survive. “Of course,” as Brand puts it, there are “infinite possibilities,” and although the two authors offer up just a few, their message seems to be one of peace and reflection, as well as communal action. In other words, capitalism isn’t the end all be all of society, and if we want our planet to persist, it may be time to consider other economic systems and other ways of living life that don’t lead to suicide.

“We can organize communities differently; we can organize the world differently,” concludes the “Trews” host with excitement. “We can love each other differently.”

—Posted by Natasha Hakimi Zapata