loro said:

Good post UD, I agree with most of it and think the same way.



Except for one thing where I believe recoverynation is completely wrong: I doubt that many people can change their life while being in the midst of their addiction.



It's just not possible to think about life visions, approach girls when you suffer from social anxiety, go out when you're isolated all the while you're still using your drug every day. It's extremely difficult to go from that scenario you mentioned -- 27, no job, no friends -- to a normal life by itself, and still watching porn makes it almost impossible. Yes, there was one guy in 1000 on this forum who was able to do it, but not the vast majority.



That's why I believe the recoverynation workshop is great for people with 50 days of abstinence, but useless for the ones who are just starting out.



In my view, it's a two step process, which is also how RN defines it: active addiction to active recovery to health. But you can't skip active recovery and go to active health immediately.



I myself first took care of the porn addiction by doing all that active recovery stuff like identifying triggers, analyzing my personal history of porn and sex, managing those triggers, learning to control urges, gaining a modicum of emotional control and resilience and so on. Only then was I even in the position to start changing my life, going out a bit more, finding hobbies etc. Before, I was constantly depressed, anxious, lifeless, without motivation and so on.



I believe UD you yourself took that approach and focused on counters, triggers, streaks in the beginning, and after you had gotten some abstinence in, worked on changing things, right?

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