DostarrSO said: The pack is clearly at a point where it could have been released and I believe they are simply drawing that out for marketing, which would be fine if they hadn't denied us the other packs that were going to be made in deference to their pack. In other words, I feel they assumed a moral responsibility to do so. Click to expand...

DostarrSO said: I really do get it, marketing is a huge part of any corporation....but holding out for the sake of marketing after assuming that responsibility in a sense leaves me feeling betrayed a bit. If there is in fact something going on behind the scenes that legitimately is leaving you not wanting to release the pack yet (cause let's face it a lot goes on behind the scenes) then I am sorry. However, given the limited information available I do believe my assessment was at least reasonable. Click to expand...

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Two issues hereYes, it COULD have been released from the get-go. but you missed the entire point I made... I was not released, because the team making it, felt it was unfinished.It has also been stated (which I COMPLETELY understand) that having too many testers -basicly every player in beta- can lead to inconsistent and delayed feedback. Access to the pack was given to serious dedicated streamers and members of the community that have a proven history of solid bug reporting and constructive feedback.was given to a control group into an environment that was tightly maintained for the purpose of testing only this pack. The minute you openly distribute to everyone, all control parameters go out the window. Johnny wants xyz mod so he adds it, Sarah wants pro mod so she drops it in, Fred hates BFD mod so he removes it... Then the next all three of them come here and start reporting bugs with the pack because what they changed caused a break... Bugs that have nothing to do with the actual pack, but things that take away from developer time to research and clear... thus creating even MORE delay for a "finished" (read as stable and acceptable) release.Again this fixation on marketing, and now tossing out the "Responsibility" word. Please explain this one to me...I have seen no statement or promise to deliver anything to anyone "until it's done". That is the only deliverable they have committed to.The simple fact is, from the early stream footage to the recent list of changes/improvements ... I'm blown away with how much work/effort has been invested in this project. Including an entirely new mod created just for this pack... You almost seem to believe that the people working on this pack have a desire to keep it from the public. Honestly, I can't imagine a more incorrect scenario. They make these packs for people to play them, to have fun, to be challenged. They want them out there to be enjoyed.Your "assessment" seems to be entirely based on seeing othersthe pack. Not taking into account the collection of bugs and balance feedback that drives the development and tweaks. This is similar to taking a seat at a restaurant and complaining that your food is not ready 30 seconds after you sit down because the people at the next table just got theirs... even tho they were there for 20 minutes before you even parked your car. I'm sure that if you raise enough of a stink the waiter will happily deliver you a half-cooked pork chop...Let them finish it and release it when they are ready. They WANT it out there. But more importantly, they want it RIGHT. FTB is doing no marketing, this thread was after 3 weeks of radio silence. This thread was intended as a quiet, "thank you for being patient. we are still working on it, this is where we are, and we are confident that we are getting close"In other words: This was communication, not hype.The Hype is from people watching the testers, the players that are looking forward to the release, and the fact that history leads us to believe that this will be a great pack.TL/DR: no summary, read it.