tofucake Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Hyrule 17807 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-20 13:48:53 #1 Right now there are no official plans to start up a wiki for competitive Melee. However, with the recent announcement and new forum and all, we're seeing a lot more interest than some people initially expected.



There has been some discussion amongst LP staff regarding a melee wiki. All of us know how hard it is to set up a new wiki (we've done it a few times now), and one of our concerns is man power. The LPD was in the works for 8 months before TL added Dota 2 coverage. The Hearthstone wiki was started several months before the HS announcement. Unfortunately, we haven't been secretly working on a Melee wiki.



I'm making this post to find out how many (if any at all) of you nice folks would be willing to put some hours into getting a Melee wiki going under the Liquipedia banner.



Please note that this is not an official announcement of a Melee Wiki, nor is it a promise that anything is in the works, this is merely an information seeking post.



Good News! The Dacia Sandero We're moving to stage 2 of this, which basically means we've gone from "who wants to help" to figuring out exactly what our goals are and what we need to do to accomplish them. Liquipedia asante sana squash banana

d3_crescentia Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 4038 Posts #2 ugh I guess me



let's gooooooooooo once, not long ago, there was a moon here

JCanon Profile Joined March 2014 Canada 11 Posts #3



http://www.ssbwiki.com/Category:Smashers I should point out that melee has one, but it's particularly messy, being hidden within SSBWiki:

tofucake Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Hyrule 17807 Posts #4 Yeah that came up, and is one argument against Liquipedia creating a new wiki. One of TL's writers apparently runs it (which none of us had any idea about). Liquipedia asante sana squash banana

Spazer Profile Blog Joined March 2009 Canada 7809 Posts #5 Hell fucking yes I'm interested. Looking through smashboards tourney threads for results only to find outdated imgur links is the worst feeling ever. Too few TO's use challonge as well. I'm more than willing to help get a smash liquipedia up to speed if it means wider adoption by the scene. The sheer convenience of having easy access to results is simply unparalleled. Liquipedia mudamudamudamudamudamuda

imallinson Profile Blog Joined May 2011 United Kingdom 3194 Posts #6 The Smash wiki has minimal coverage of the pro scene which is what we would focus on if we did do a Smash LP. Liquipedia

Hot_Bid Profile Blog Joined October 2003 Braavos 36163 Posts #7 While that wiki exists I don't think the information is very up to date or organized, or even structured particularly well. There are large portions of player information missing as well. Not that it's particularly BAD, it's just that LP can be better, with better templates and faster information. We can do it! @Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png

Spazer Profile Blog Joined March 2009 Canada 7809 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-18 22:17:26 #8 It's also worth noting that dota liquipedia was started well after two other dota wikis already existed. So it's not like there's no precedent for this sort of thing. Liquipedia mudamudamudamudamudamuda

JCanon Profile Joined March 2014 Canada 11 Posts #9 I would be entirely for generally moving any competitive discussion from SSBWiki to an LP smash section, yeah. Because SSBWiki is generally for just everything related to smash, stuff like competitive profiles tend to be an afterthought, and having its own wiki specialized to it would greatly help. Also, finding old info can be absolute hell; I recall some old MLG events having little to no info nowadays, because whatever results were out there have been lost to time.

Pontius Pirate Profile Blog Joined August 2013 United States 1556 Posts #10 I can see a use for this, but I think it should be organized in a way such that it's easy to update to and include the SSB4 scene, when it emerges. Yes, it's true that the Melee scene turned up its nose at Brawl, but Smash 4 won't have tripping, so the scene could end up being split even more severely than before. "I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream

bo1b Profile Blog Joined August 2012 Australia 12625 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-18 22:50:23 #11



I'd be down to contribute, but I'm not too good with things like css or html if that's required. On March 19 2014 07:45 Pontius Pirate wrote:

I can see a use for this, but I think it should be organized in a way such that it's easy to update to and include the SSB4 scene, when it emerges. Yes, it's true that the Melee scene turned up its nose at Brawl, but Smash 4 won't have tripping, so the scene could end up being split even more severely than before.

You can turn off tripping in brawl, it's not the real problem. You can turn off tripping in brawl, it's not the real problem.

LockeTazeline Profile Blog Joined June 2012 2388 Posts #12 This would be really cool in my opinion. I remember after watching Apex last year, my interest in Smash was piqued, and I started looking into it, but I couldn't find a good wiki to investigate the professional scene, so I gave up.

Heyoka Profile Blog Joined March 2008 Temple of EE-Sama 22504 Posts #13 I agree with the stuff HotBid wrote.



In particular I am never happy with tournament-completeness for games I don't follow super closely and that is something LP has always excelled at. @RealHeyoka | DreamHack StarCrafty Man

tofucake Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Hyrule 17807 Posts #14 On March 19 2014 07:49 bo1b wrote:

I'd be down to contribute, but I'm not too good with things like css or html if that's required.



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On March 19 2014 07:45 Pontius Pirate wrote:

I can see a use for this, but I think it should be organized in a way such that it's easy to update to and include the SSB4 scene, when it emerges. Yes, it's true that the Melee scene turned up its nose at Brawl, but Smash 4 won't have tripping, so the scene could end up being split even more severely than before.

You can turn off tripping in brawl, it's not the real problem. I'd be down to contribute, but I'm not too good with things like css or html if that's required.You can turn off tripping in brawl, it's not the real problem.

LP wikis have traditionally not had their styling done until quite a bit of information is put in. The first few months of a wiki are setting up templates and pages as needed. Styling will be done mostly by Liquipedia and Graphics staff. LP wikis have traditionally not had their styling done until quite a bit of information is put in. The first few months of a wiki are setting up templates and pages as needed. Styling will be done mostly by Liquipedia and Graphics staff. Liquipedia asante sana squash banana

ffadicted Profile Joined January 2011 United States 3545 Posts #15 I'd be down for helping some depending on when it starts SooYoung-Noona!

bo1b Profile Blog Joined August 2012 Australia 12625 Posts #16 On March 19 2014 08:06 tofucake wrote:

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On March 19 2014 07:49 bo1b wrote:

I'd be down to contribute, but I'm not too good with things like css or html if that's required.



On March 19 2014 07:45 Pontius Pirate wrote:

I can see a use for this, but I think it should be organized in a way such that it's easy to update to and include the SSB4 scene, when it emerges. Yes, it's true that the Melee scene turned up its nose at Brawl, but Smash 4 won't have tripping, so the scene could end up being split even more severely than before.

You can turn off tripping in brawl, it's not the real problem. I'd be down to contribute, but I'm not too good with things like css or html if that's required.You can turn off tripping in brawl, it's not the real problem.

LP wikis have traditionally not had their styling done until quite a bit of information is put in. The first few months of a wiki are setting up templates and pages as needed. Styling will be done mostly by Liquipedia and Graphics staff. LP wikis have traditionally not had their styling done until quite a bit of information is put in. The first few months of a wiki are setting up templates and pages as needed. Styling will be done mostly by Liquipedia and Graphics staff.

So on the chance that it does end up going ahead, I would be able to contribute via uploading tournament results etc? Because at this stage in my education I find myself with an absurd amount of free time to contribute. So on the chance that it does end up going ahead, I would be able to contribute via uploading tournament results etc? Because at this stage in my education I find myself with an absurd amount of free time to contribute.

Carnivorous Sheep Profile Blog Joined November 2008 Baa? 14081 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-19 00:01:55 #17 On March 19 2014 07:12 Spazer wrote:

Hell fucking yes I'm interested. Looking through smashboards tourney threads for results only to find outdated imgur links is the worst feeling ever. Too few TO's use challonge as well. I'm more than willing to help get a smash liquipedia up to speed if it means wider adoption by the scene. The sheer convenience of having easy access to results is simply unparalleled.



A million times this.



This is 2014 damn it I demand instant tournament results on Liquipedia and the ability to look through past results with ease. A million times this.This is 2014 damn it I demand instant tournament results on Liquipedia and the ability to look through past results with ease. Translator Baa!

bo1b Profile Blog Joined August 2012 Australia 12625 Posts #18 On March 19 2014 09:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 19 2014 07:12 Spazer wrote:

Hell fucking yes I'm interested. Looking through smashboards tourney threads for results only to find outdated imgur links is the worst feeling ever. Too few TO's use challonge as well. I'm more than willing to help get a smash liquipedia up to speed if it means wider adoption by the scene. The sheer convenience of having easy access to results is simply unparalleled.



A million times this.



This is 2014 damn it I demand instant tournament results on Liquipedia and the ability to look through past results with ease. A million times this.This is 2014 damn it I demand instant tournament results on Liquipedia and the ability to look through past results with ease.

Pretty much, lp has spoiled me rotten in sc2 Pretty much, lp has spoiled me rotten in sc2

Trozz Profile Blog Joined November 2008 Canada 3334 Posts #19 I'd love to see this.

Would this be melee only?

No smash4/P:M. A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.

tofucake Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Hyrule 17807 Posts #20 I don't know anything about Smash 4 or PM right now, and we only have a melee team. For starters, it would be only melee. Liquipedia asante sana squash banana

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