File No. 9110230 WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW FATHER JOHN DELENDICK Interview Date: December 6, 2001 Transcribed by Laurie A. Collins

J. DELENDICK 2 MR. TAMBASCO: Today is December 6th. My name is Mike Tambasco with the World Trade Center Task Force. We're on the fourth floor of Nine Metrotech in the conference room, conducting an interview with Father John Delendick into the events of September 11th. The time now is 1431 hours. Q.Father, if you would just be good enough to tell us your story from that day. A.I had just finished saying the 8:30 mass at St. Michael's in Brooklyn. The pager went off and said that a plane had crashed into one of the towers of the Trade Center. I called emergency operations center and said I was responding, and I left for the Trade Center. I went through the Battery Tunnel. I parked my car as close to the Battery Tunnel as possible and walked to the Trade Center from there along West Street. I stopped for a few minutes to talk to Jerry Barber, who was opposite -- I guess we were standing on the corner of Liberty Street and West. I believe that's where I saw him. I then proceeded down

J. DELENDICK 3 further. He told me that the command post was on West Street down in front of the Financial Center. According to this paper, it's Two World Financial Center, Merrill Lynch. They were set up in front of there with two huge garage doors which went underneath the Financial Center. I spoke to Ganci briefly, told him I was there. I saw Bill Feehan, said hello to him. I stood there for a while talking to Timmy Stackpole and to Chief Ed Henry, both of whom left a few minutes later. And Henry picked up his tack and said to me: "I've got to go to work," and he went across the street to the Marriott. Timmy Stackpole and I continued to talk -- in fact, people started jumping off the north tower at that point. We were watching that. I said to Timmy I think we should go back to the office. I should mention that behind us a lot of different companies were staging. That's where they were waiting to move in. I said: "Timmy, we should go back and remind the officers to look after their probies because I don't think

J. DELENDICK 4 they're going to be able to handle this. I turned around with Timmy, and we both looked and then looked at each other, because no one was handling it, the probies or the veterans. Timmy at that point took a group of guys -- I'm not sure who was with him -- and went across the street as well. I believe they went to the Marriott. Most people going to the south tower went to the Marriott and went through the Marriott to get there. The top of the building kind of started to rumble, and we all looked up. It looked -- Q.Let me interrupt you for a second. Were you there when the second plane hit? A.No. When the second plane hit, I was still in Brooklyn. I was trying to get through the tunnel on Hamilton Avenue. We saw the plane, but I never saw it hit. I remember saying to myself, boy, that guy is awful low in the pattern. I remember saying something really stupid like, you know, did he come down to see what happened with the first one? It never dawned on me that he was heading for the other tower, but that's where it was headed.

J. DELENDICK 5 We heard a rumbling noise, and it appeared that that first tower, the south tower, had exploded, the top of it. That's what I saw, what a lot of us saw. We ran down underneath the Financial Center. Q.The garages behind you? A.The garages. We were followed by that cloud, that dark black cloud. It was very difficult to breathe, very difficult to see. I stopped running or I stopped going down when it leveled off. There was like a ramp that went down, and I stopped at the bottom ramp where it leveled off. Bill Feehan was next to me. Ray Downey was over there too, because they both started talking -- I knew it was them because they were talking, so I knew. I remember asking Ray Downey was it the jet fuel that blew up. He said at that point he thought there were bombs up there because it was too even. As we've since learned, it was the jet fuel that was dropping down that caused all this. But he said it was too even. Q.Symmetrical?

J. DELENDICK 6 A.So his original thought was that he thought it was a bomb up there as well. We then started walking up, back up. I was with Bill Feehan. I'm not sure where Ray Downey went. I understand Pete Ganci found a stairwell, went up a stairwell and went back to the lobby, back to the command post where we were. Bill and I stopped a few times on the ramp going up. There were some firefighters who had fallen there. I don't know who they were. I didn't really get to see their faces. You couldn't really see much. You trip over them is how -- Q.You found them. A.We would grab other firefighters to help them down further. They had apparently minor injuries. They were okay, but they had fallen or whatever. We got people to assist them to go down further into the building. I remember saying to Bill at one point we had to be near the garage doors. I said we should be seeing daylight soon. Little did I know that we weren't going to see daylight. I

J. DELENDICK 7 didn't even think. He said yeah, you're right. Next thing we knew, we were outside. There was kind of -- I don't know what to call it, like an island between two garages on the driveway outside that had flowers in it. We were right next to it, so we knew we were outside, couldn't realize. Couldn't see anything. We didn't know the building came down. We just knew the top of the building exploded and didn't know what happened to the rest of the building. You just couldn't see anything. Things began to lift a little bit. Just to take a step back, when I got out, we discovered we were outside, somebody said to me there's somebody hurt down on West Street. And I started walking south on West Street. That's when I began to notice fire trucks that were damaged and ambulances on the side and cars destroyed. I stopped and said where am I going? Where am I looking for this guy who is injured? I have no idea where I'm going. I turned and went back to -- Q. Where the command post was?

J. DELENDICK 8 A. -- where the command post was. Ganci was there at this point, and I stood there a few minutes. Pete started yelling, saying to everyone that we should start moving north and we're going to re-form the command post up on West and Chambers Street. A whole group of us started moving north again. I'm not sure who I was with. We just started moving north. When we got to the corner of West and Vesey, we heard that kind of same rumbling noise. And someone just yelled run, and we all started running. Some people ran north. I ran with a whole bunch of people going towards the river. Q.West? A.On Vesey Street, west. I remember a cop running along next to me. I remember this. This is great. We were running along, and a cop is running next to me. He says: "Father, can I go to confession?" I looked and said: "This is an act of war, isn't it?" He said: "Yeah, I believe so." I said: "Then I'm giving general absolution." I gave everyone general absolution, and I kept running.

J. DELENDICK 9 Q.You're covered? A.Also I ran into a bunch of guys from the Secret Service, about 25 or 30 of them, all in their suits. I don't know the name of the street that's behind the World Financial Center. Q.It might be North End or -- A.It must be North Avenue. They were walking along North, crossing Vesey, and they were going down further. I stopped one of them and I said where are you going? He said one of our members is in the building and we have to go find him. I remember saying to him I don't think it's a good idea going down there right now. He said no, we've got to find him. I said fine, go right ahead, do what you have to do. I kept going. I walked along the river, and a group of us walked along the river. We walked past the high school, Stuyvesant High School. There's an alleyway between the high school and -- Q.The river? A. -- the river. I'm not sure what was there. I think the river was there. And we came up to -- back to West Street. Then at that point

J. DELENDICK 10 we're all standing around. Where is everyone? Where's Pete? Where's Bill? Nigro came a little while later. Apparently he had walked around I think he said South Street. He was down the other way, walked around somehow and found his way back to Chambers Street. Things began to clear. We were looking, and we realized both buildings were no longer there. Many of us just walked back down West Street back to the towers to see what we could do. Q.There was -- A.I learned Father Judge was dead, and I began to learn that so many guys were gone. Q.Heck of a day, huh? A.I found the worst part of the day was people coming up to me that I knew and there were guys who had sons on the job or fathers on the job or brothers on the job and they would be asking me: Did you see my brother? Have you seen my father? Have you seen my son? I had to tell them no. I didn't even know they were there. That made it very hard.