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Hero MemberActivity: 532Merit: 500 Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 05, 2013, 05:13:43 PM #801 Quote from: evoorhees on February 05, 2013, 05:01:23 PM And yes I agree that price and value are certainly related. But what I was arguing was that dropping the price of something in half doesn't drop the value in half (which I think you agree with).



Yes - putting them up at half price (which you didn't even do) would only halve the value for anyone who HAD to sell their shares before your order was filled (surely a very small number of people - if any). For anyone planning to hold the shares for more than a week or two the impact is likely minor judging by the speed the 1 million sold at. Yes - putting them up at half price (which you didn't even do) would only halve the value for anyone who HAD to sell their shares before your order was filled (surely a very small number of people - if any). For anyone planning to hold the shares for more than a week or two the impact is likely minor judging by the speed the 1 million sold at.

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LegendaryActivity: 910Merit: 1000Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 05, 2013, 07:09:57 PM #807



Last few months have shown, how lucrative SDICE is. Whales appeared from nowhere and dumped piles upon piles of coin to SDICE. Guess what, it helps IPO to be finally sold out... and now, we have another placement of shares.

"HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY" - like one retarded fuck was screaming in IRC.



You know what, this sounds so honest and so right, ya'll MUST! take out second mortgages and buy more SDICE!



PS! I hope I am wrong an this is not turning out to be another clusterfuck brewing in BTC land.



Hold on... its not a cluster fuck, IT IS A FKN S**T STORM!



Code: EskimoBob_afk | evoorhees: have you talked to IRS or any other 3 letter asswipes?

evoorhees | No but I'm talking with a lawfirm to ensure things are handled properly, now that the site has grown to a significant operation



talking with a lawfirm ... oops, we all know how this can end I love it! You guys are all so happy to mop up the shares, while largest investor(s) are slowly exiting. Wonderful!Last few months have shown, how lucrative SDICE is. Whales appeared from nowhere and dumped piles upon piles of coin to SDICE. Guess what, it helps IPO to be finally sold out... and now, we have another placement of shares."HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY" - like one retarded fuck was screaming in IRC.You know what, this sounds so honest and so right, ya'll MUST! take out second mortgages and buy more SDICE!PS! I hope I am wrong an this is not turning out to be another clusterfuck brewing in BTC land.Hold on... its not a cluster fuck, IT IS A FKN S**T STORM!talking with a lawfirm ... oops, we all know how this can end While reading what I wrote, use the most friendliest and relaxing voice in your head.

BTW, Things in BTC bubble universes are getting ugly....

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LegendaryActivity: 1008Merit: 1005Democracy is the original 51% attack Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 05, 2013, 07:29:08 PM #808 Quote from: EskimoBob on February 05, 2013, 07:09:57 PM



Last few months have shown, how lucrative SDICE is. Whales appeared from nowhere and dumped piles upon piles of coin to SDICE. Guess what, it helps IPO to be finally sold out... and now, we have another placement of shares.

"HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY" - like one retarded fuck was screaming in IRC.



You know what, this sounds so honest and so right, ya'll MUST! take out second mortgages and buy more SDICE!



PS! I hope I am wrong an this is not turning out to be another clusterfuck brewing in BTC land.



Hold on... its not a cluster fuck, IT IS A FKN S**T STORM!



Code: EskimoBob_afk | evoorhees: have you talked to IRS or any other 3 letter asswipes?

evoorhees | No but I'm talking with a lawfirm to ensure things are handled properly, now that the site has grown to a significant operation



talking with a lawfirm ... oops, we all know how this can end

I love it! You guys are all so happy to mop up the shares, while largest investor(s) are slowly exiting. Wonderful!Last few months have shown, how lucrative SDICE is. Whales appeared from nowhere and dumped piles upon piles of coin to SDICE. Guess what, it helps IPO to be finally sold out... and now, we have another placement of shares."HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY" - like one retarded fuck was screaming in IRC.You know what, this sounds so honest and so right, ya'll MUST! take out second mortgages and buy more SDICE!PS! I hope I am wrong an this is not turning out to be another clusterfuck brewing in BTC land.Hold on... its not a cluster fuck, IT IS A FKN S**T STORM!talking with a lawfirm ... oops, we all know how this can end

EskimoBob, you write lots of nonsense.



1) Are you suggesting that the whales are artificial, to boost up volumes? If so, please state this plainly. They are real, and besides the whales the base volume on the site is up substantially as well. Please present some evidence if you think something nefarious is going on, otherwise you're just spreading misinformation.



2) Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with large owners selling a small portion to the community? If so, why?



3) Are you suggesting that it is not a good idea to get legal council on SD? I think it's a very responsible thing to do



And you're ignoring the plain fact: SD has grown into an impressive operation. Those who bought S.DICE shares have seen both substantial appreciation as well as excellent dividends. The price of listed shares goes down to .0044 for 12 hours because I release a tranche to the community (selling for less than I could get if I were being super greedy) and you freak out?



Perhaps you don't believe that anyone in Bitcoinland is legitimate? Is it so hard to believe that there are real businesses being built, earning real income, and being honest about their operations, and benefiting those involved? Do you not believe that Bitcoin is going to be a huge wealth generator for everyone who is involved in building these systems?



If you have valid concerns please convey them, but right now you're spreading FUD.







EskimoBob, you write lots of nonsense.1) Are you suggesting that the whales are artificial, to boost up volumes? If so, please state this plainly. They are real, and besides the whales the base volume on the site is up substantially as well. Please present some evidence if you think something nefarious is going on, otherwise you're just spreading misinformation.2) Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with large owners selling a small portion to the community? If so, why?3) Are you suggesting that it is not a good idea to get legal council on SD? I think it's a very responsible thing to doAnd you're ignoring the plain fact: SD has grown into an impressive operation. Those who bought S.DICE shares have seen both substantial appreciation as well as excellent dividends. The price of listed shares goes down to .0044 for 12 hours because I release a tranche to the community (selling for less than I could get if I were being super greedy) and you freak out?Perhaps you don't believe that anyone in Bitcoinland is legitimate? Is it so hard to believe that there are real businesses being built, earning real income, and being honest about their operations, and benefiting those involved? Do you not believe that Bitcoin is going to be a huge wealth generator for everyone who is involved in building these systems?If you have valid concerns please convey them, but right now you're spreading FUD.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 451Merit: 250 Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 05, 2013, 08:05:05 PM #811 Erik, do you have any insights into who the whales are? Do you think they are an early adopter with a large bitcoin stash or are they gamblers buying bitcoins to play SatoshiDice?



(I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theory btw that the recent betting volumes are a ploy to increase the share price in case anyone thinks I'm implying that)

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Hero MemberActivity: 548Merit: 500 Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 05, 2013, 09:10:45 PM #813 People are placing bids above 0.0055 instead of just at exactly 0.0055 and getting the price locked in.



Do they just not know that these new shares are hitting the market?



Is there any way to distribute info about tranches or other important information through MPEX or do you need to check this thread for anything related to S.DICE?

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LegendaryActivity: 1008Merit: 1005Democracy is the original 51% attack Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 05, 2013, 09:18:47 PM #814 Quote from: k on February 05, 2013, 08:05:05 PM Erik, do you have any insights into who the whales are? Do you think they are an early adopter with a large bitcoin stash or are they gamblers buying bitcoins to play SatoshiDice?



(I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theory btw that the recent betting volumes are a ploy to increase the share price in case anyone thinks I'm implying that)



I have no idea who they are :/



I honestly would've been blown away by it, but after my trip to Macau I learned that yes there are people out there who gamble with hundreds of thousands, even millions, of dollars. I saw Baccarat tables where people would play in VIP rooms for 36 hrs using $50,000 chips. I have no idea who they are :/I honestly would've been blown away by it, but after my trip to Macau I learned that yes there are people out there who gamble with hundreds of thousands, even millions, of dollars. I saw Baccarat tables where people would play in VIP rooms for 36 hrs using $50,000 chips.

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LegendaryActivity: 1008Merit: 1005Democracy is the original 51% attack Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 05, 2013, 09:22:49 PM #815 Quote from: kgo on February 05, 2013, 09:10:45 PM People are placing bids above 0.0055 instead of just at exactly 0.0055 and getting the price locked in.



Do they just not know that these new shares are hitting the market?



Is there any way to distribute info about tranches or other important information through MPEX or do you need to check this thread for anything related to S.DICE?



They're doing that because the tranche will probably be oversubscribed (not enough shares for the demand at the price of .0055). If you place a bid at .0056 you get shares before anyone who has a bid at .0055.



I'll post all info about the upcoming tranches here in this thread and also in the #bitcoin-assets IRC channel.



As mentioned, Tranche 2 will be 1m shares released at 10pm EST for .0055 btc per. Haven't decided on the following tranches yet, but it was a mistake for me not to announce the first one, so rest assured info will be posted here prior to any release. They're doing that because the tranche will probably be oversubscribed (not enough shares for the demand at the price of .0055). If you place a bid at .0056 you get shares before anyone who has a bid at .0055.I'll post all info about the upcoming tranches here in this thread and also in the #bitcoin-assets IRC channel.As mentioned, Tranche 2 will be 1m shares released at 10pm EST for .0055 btc per. Haven't decided on the following tranches yet, but it was a mistake for me not to announce the first one, so rest assured info will be posted here prior to any release.

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Full MemberActivity: 163Merit: 100 Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx February 06, 2013, 02:17:10 AM #818 I'm not surprised that there are people stupid enough to risk substantial amounts of money (for them) without having the fainest understanding of even the most rudimentary concepts of finance, but it's terrible that busy people with real work to do have to waste so much time repeatedly explaining basic information to these fools and children.