DeLauro On Impeachment: “Not From Me”

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posted by: wendy1 on July 30, 2019 3:56pm I rate more press than this lady.

posted by: Elmer's Glue on July 30, 2019 4:13pm There are 235 Democrats in the US House of Representatives. Most of them, as far as I can tell, are doing nothing besides calling rich donors and showing up at parties. 235 people with that much time on their hands ought to be able to: Design a national health-care system,

Put together a plan to save this planet from ecological collapse, and, yes… IMPEACH THE M**********R!

posted by: Samuel T. Ross-Lee on July 30, 2019 4:20pm If a Republican-led House of Representative could impeach a Democratic President who broke no laws and whom they knew would not be convicted in a Democratic-led Senate, a Democratic-led House should impeach a Republican President who has, in fact, broken the law, even if he will not be convicted in a Republican-led Senate who have no moral core

posted by: Carl Goldfield on July 30, 2019 4:28pm Thanks Rosa. Impeachment will be a circus and will accomplish nothing except to provide a forum for our President-clown who is a master of distraction. Stick to the issues that flipped the House and will protect recently elected Democrats in swing districts. Democrats need to be calm, disciplined and focused on a message that resonates with the moderate, struggling middle not on every outrageous tweet. We need to get him out of office. I need to get back to being able to get a good night’s sleep.

posted by: SparkJames on July 30, 2019 4:31pm In place of impeachment, I’d settle for “stop enabling”.

posted by: Dwight&Howe; on July 30, 2019 4:41pm To Samuel T. Ross-Lee, As a man of the pulpit, what are your thoughts on the continual radicalization of the Democratic Party and their completely disregard for the unborn (e.g., desiring to have the ability to kill up to birth) and their promotion of radical “gender theory” and fraying of traditional family values? You mention “morals”. Just wondering how the African churches might view the current trend of the Democratic leadership.

posted by: alex on July 30, 2019 4:53pm Weak position with an even weaker rationale.

posted by: EastCoast25 on July 30, 2019 5:18pm With respect to DeLauro, she is WRONG. It is the constitutional duty of the house and senate to remove from office a president who has committed treason, abuse of power and obstruction of justice. Not to mention his racist, sexist, ignorant, fear mongering, increasing delusional, devoid from reality, megalomaniacal statements and actions! To impeach is not a"distraction.” It is your RESPONSIBILITY as a member of the legislative branch of government. To simply dismiss impeachment as a distraction means you don’t believe his actions warrant a response or that he should be held accountable. And if that is the case, DeLauro doesn’t deserve her office.

posted by: Samuel T. Ross-Lee on July 30, 2019 5:24pm @Dwight&Howe;, As an educated man of the pulpit, and a devotee of Liberation Theology, I am not tied to the moralistic tendencies of the conservatives. The Jesus I know and try to follow was a radical, in the truest sense of the word. So, the tepid “radicalization” of the Democrats bothers me only to the point that they are not radical enough. The extreme hypocrisy of the conservatives is more than annoying, i.e., their obsession with the unborn coupled with their complete disregard for the born who don’t look like them. I am intelligent enough to know that putting the word “traditional” in front of a concept does not make that concept sacrosanct in it’s so-called “traditional” form. As for your concern about “radical gender-theory,” the Christian Bible says: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28. Is THAT gender-theory radical enough for you? See, in asking your assumptive questions, you made several mistakes:

1. You seem to assume that I’m a Democrat. I am not.

2. You assumed that all “African(-American) churches are the same. We are not.

3. You thought that as a minister, I could be trapped by an oppressive White theological perspective and their tortured, and often down-right uneducated use of scripture. You are wrong on all counts. Neither so-called conservative theology nor politicals have a lock on what it means to be moral in this country. And with the conservative church and politicians consistent support an immoral president, they are proving that they don’t even understand what moral means. The Rev. Mr. Samuel T. Ross-Lee

posted by: nevetse on July 30, 2019 5:24pm Ignoring the party composition of Congress right now, impeachment is absolutely the right thing to do given the circumstances. Unfortunately, given the rigidity of the Senate’s Republicans, it’ll simply be a futile attempt to impeach now, unless there’s some smoking gun evidence of wrongdoing that even the Republicans can’t deny. Somehow, clear evidence of obstruction of justice isn’t enough for them. While I personally do believe that we should continue investigating and potentially open up an impeachment inquiry, I also believe we should primarily be focusing on the issues everyday people are dealing with. If we find that smoking gun evidence before the elections next year, great! If not, by focusing on normal, everyday issues, even if bills will only end up in Mitch McConnell’s legislative graveyard and go nowhere, the Democrats can show that they’re actually trying to do something to improve this nation’s well-being. In doing so, they will hold onto the House, and have a better chance at taking back the Senate and White House in next year’s elections.

posted by: Dwight&Howe; on July 30, 2019 6:37pm Mr. Samuel, It is possible to care for the unborn and traditional values (“Male and female He created them”) and social justice at the same time. It does seem odd that black churches do not seem to speak out against the atrocities against the unborn. Taking sharp metal objects, cutting them apart, and vacuuming their brains. How can any Christian or anyone with a brain actively support such a thing? Or maybe they’re not aware of what the Democrats are up to? But I find that hard to believe when they are proposing such insane laws all over the nation. Black churches have political clout to at least get the conversation going even if Democrats won’t listen. They can fight for social justice and right to life and personhood at the same time. It’s not a competition.

posted by: Dwight&Howe; on July 30, 2019 6:42pm “See, in asking your assumptive questions, you made several mistakes:

1. You seem to assume that I’m a Democrat. I am not.

2. You assumed that all “African(-American) churches are the same. We are not.

3. You thought that as a minister, I could be trapped by an oppressive White theological perspective and their tortured, and often down-right uneducated use of scripture.”

===== 1. I did not assume you are Democrat. I assumed you would have more knowledge of black churches which lean Democrat.

2. Obviously, not all African-American churches are the same. But they lean more Democrat/liberal as a demographic, no? Please correct me if I’m wrong. That would actually be welcome news.

3. How is Christian theology “oppressive”? In what way do the Gospels oppress black people?

posted by: Dwight&Howe; on July 30, 2019 6:54pm (Abortion and lgbt/transgender issues are hot-topic, social-political battlegrounds. I was just curious how black churches might perceive them as spiritual and political issues. Or if it’s even on the radar at all.)

posted by: Patricia Kane on July 30, 2019 7:15pm “She championed and helped pass a House bill that will raise the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour by 2025.”

“She’s co-introduced the Medicare for America Act, a universal healthcare program that aspires to expand Medicare coverage to all Americans while also preserving “gold-level” employer-sponsored health insurance.”

In other words, Rosa DeLauro is not a progressive Democrat, but a typical representative who ignores the polls showing Americans want Medicare for All (and not compromises that leave the insurance companies calling the shots), a LIVING WAGE - which is $27 an hour right now!

DeLauro is out of touch with the masses, but most of the Democratic Party is, which is why Independents or Unaffilliated voters are nationally a larger category than either Democrat or Republican.

DeLauro is part of the privileged class and has done nothing to address income inequality, food insecurity, climate catastrophe, etc.

Why do we continue to pay salaries to elected representatives who do not represent the people, but the interests of big Pharma, the military-industrial complex, etc?

Our form of government is over 300 years old and no longer functions.

Time to re-think how We the People can push back the big money interests and get our agenda accomplished instead.

posted by: Samuel T. Ross-Lee on July 30, 2019 7:20pm @Dwight&Howe;, Two points and I’m done with you. 1. Thank you for White ‘splaining the Black Church to me. I REALLY “needed” that. 2. I never said that Christian Theology is oppressive. I said WHITE Theology is. Perhaps you should not conflate the two. They are NOT the same.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on July 30, 2019 9:09pm posted by: Dwight&Howe; on July 30, 2019 6:37pm It does seem odd that black churches do not seem to speak out against the atrocities against the unborn. Taking sharp metal objects, cutting them apart, and vacuuming their brains. How can any Christian or anyone with a brain actively support such a thing? Or maybe they’re not aware of what the Democrats are up to? But I find that hard to believe when they are proposing such insane laws all over the nation. How come you never hear White Evangelical Churches speak out against contemporary.racism never goes away.Even Dr.King call out the white Churches. I have been so greatly disappointed in the white church, and its leadership. I do no say this as one of the negative critics, who can always find something wrong with the church. I say this as a minister of the Gospel who loves the church. During the Montgomery bus boycott I thought we would get the support of the white church, but white ministers, priest and Rabbi’s have been some of our strongest opponents. I have watched white churches stand on the sideline saying those are issues with which the Gospel have no real concern. I have looked at their beautiful churches, and over and over again I have found myself asking what kind of people worship here, and who is their God? Why were their lips silent when Governor Wallace gave the clarion call for defiance and hatred? Yes these questions are still in my mind——-DR. KING (from his book called, a Testament of Hope)

posted by: Elmmy on July 30, 2019 9:19pm Would you please read through the various stories from the citizens/readers? The disunificatrion of these tales explains best as to why these “leaders” are stilling leading. The positions they take and the leadership examples they provide to follow only serve to further divide the masses. And it’s contrasting messages that people post against each other which are the best testament to that idea.Here’s an idea, we might accomplish much more, even from opposing origins, if we find a way to come together in the face of even a congresswoman, in order to pursue common goals. And then, guess what,? Our congresswoman would then be a part of the same pursuit. How does that sound?

posted by: Gretchen Pritchard on July 30, 2019 11:59pm @Dwight&Howe;

Some facts for you. 1. “completely disregard for the unborn ... desiring to have the ability to kill up to birth)” is a slander. No politician or feminist desires any such thing, nor would a medical provider carry out such a procedure late in a healthy pregnancy just because the mother didn’t want the child. 2. “Late-term abortion” is extremely rare: 92 percent of abortions are performed before the end of the first trimester, or within 13 weeks or less; almost 99 percent before 21 weeks. Later abortion occurs for 3 reasons. a) a severe risk to the mother, if the pregnancy were to continue, e.g. infection or pre-eclampsia or some other cascade of metabolic issues threatening sepsis or organ failure. This means the baby is equally under threat. Sometimes delivery has to happen to save the mother even if that may mean the baby then dies of prematurity. In the vast majority of these cases, the babies are fervently loved and wanted. Despite the best efforts of the medical team, the baby may be lost, or survive but with severe disabilities due to prematurity. This is a medical and human tragedy. b) The discovery after 20 weeks that the baby has abnormalities that will kill it before birth or doom it to a short and painful life or a life without the possibility of “normal” engagement with the world. These assessments are full of gray areas and are extremely painful to make, and are made by the parent(s) in consultation with a medical and counseling team, and are nobody’s business but the parents’. c) Women who wanted an early abortion but encountered delays because of restrictions on the availability or affordability of abortion, and so had to travel or raise money, which meant they were past 13 weeks by the time they had the abortion. Bottom line: late abortions are not something done frivolously by unfeeling women who just don’t want a baby. They are complex and painful. Also: restricting early abortion makes late abortion MORE likely.

posted by: Gretchen Pritchard on July 31, 2019 12:11am I’m disappointed in Rosa taking this stance. I do not agree with her that “the mandate that American voters gave to House Democrats last election was to protect and build upon social-economic welfare programs ... long championed by the Democratic Party, [and] not to impeach President Donald Trump ... but rather to beat his oligarchic, anti-democratic ideas with federal assistance programs that Americans overwhelmingly support.” The Constitution gives more than one job to Congress—it is responsible for passing legislation AND for holding the Executive Branch accountable. The Democratic majority in the House is obligated to do both. Rosa readily acknowledges that all the Democratic legislating in the world in basically an exercise in political theatre because Mitch McConnell simply shuts all these good bills down when they get to the Senate. Yet she pushes to pile up more such empty legislative “achievements.” If that makes sense, then so does a strictly-for-show impeachment. Bring on the hearings. Get the facts out there. Put these goons on the witness stand. I would argue that the imposition of any kind of accountability on this criminal Administration is at least as important as passing bills that have no hope of actually becoming law in this Congress. Besides, you need to show that you can walk and chew gum at the same time.

posted by: Bill Saunders on July 31, 2019 1:48am Dwight & Howe, Maybe you have confused this article with some other publication… a bad link or something. Thought not a Democrat, I would guess that you are a ‘man’....

Save your morality for yourself! I’m surprised Paul Bass gave so much ‘air time’!

posted by: Callisto on July 31, 2019 5:22am If this unindicted criminal staining the Oval Office everyday and who was installed by a fascist oligarch who is ratf***ing democracy around the world doesn’t rise to the level of impeachment then just remove it from the Constitution. Tits on a bull. Nixon was peanuts compared to this dangerous and deranged bigot. The disruption and “dismantling of the administrative state” this Russian useful idiot has already caused will take years to mend, if ever. He is an anti-science xenophobic racist misogynist serial-liar whose only laudable accomplishment will be the utter destruction of the Republican Party. Keep yammering about abortion and the like while they transfer trillions to their golfing buddies. You’ve been bamboozled.

posted by: cunningham It would be one thing of Democrats had a great recent track record of passing progressive legislation to build on, but come on. This is pathetic. (As, by the way, is Medicare for America.) Trump is a transparently corrupt, racist demagogue. He’s abusing the powers of the executive branch and it’s Congress’s job to hold him accountable. The idea that impeachment would play into Trump’s hands is a failure of conviction and imagination.

posted by: NHNative on July 31, 2019 7:07am DeLauro is right. Impeachment would 1) not pass the Republican Senate, and 2) motivate Trump’s supporters, thereby undermining efforts to defeat him next year.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on July 31, 2019 9:00am George Carlin about abortion and ‘the sanctity of life’. https://youtu.be/M-bLf4F0PM4

posted by: Gretchen Pritchard on July 31, 2019 9:36am @ THREE FIFTHS Known your audience: George Carlin is not exactly the guy to turn to if you want to try to change the mind of a prissy moralist.

posted by: Elmshaker on July 31, 2019 9:39am To paraphrase Rosa- “We should ignore Trump’s criminal abuse of his office and the constitution, and bang our heads harder against the wall.” She needs to go, she needs to “say thank you America for the wonderful life you’ve given me” and she needs to go. If she’s running on 30 years of economic and social justice, what results does she have to show the people of New Haven? Will she walk down Winchester at midnight and tell us what 30 years of progress has meant to that neighborhood? Where’s the Democrat who’s running against her in this “blue” town? I’ll send them $20 right now…

posted by: Vito Rabinowitz on July 31, 2019 9:55am I agree with Patricia Kane. If Rosa were such a progressive democrat, she would not be so cozy with the Military Industrial Complex. Rosa, after 30 years maybe its time for retirement, and the 3rd Congressional District deserves a real progressive Congresswoman with thinking and conviction such as AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar or Ayanna Pressley.

posted by: cunningham @NHNative Trump’s base is small, vocal, and inherently motivated. Nothing is going to change that. What impeachment would do, even if the process doesn’t ultimately remove him from office, would allow House Democrats to seize the narrative and frame it squarely on Trump’s incompetence, his neglect of his duties, and his criminal abuse of power. Will it change the mind of any Trump supporters? Probably not. Will it push people who don’t like to him to actually get out and vote when they might otherwise not bother (maybe because they see the alternative as feckless cowards)? Absolutely.

posted by: Barking up the right tree on July 31, 2019 12:45pm @D&H

Nice try. You made an honest attempt to start a conversation concerning issues that modern progressives avoid at all costs. Unfortunately shame is in short supply when it comes to human life.

The fact that the abortion industry has disproportionately killed millions of black babies over 4 decades doesn’t seem to bother certain people. Neither does the fact that many of these abortion clinics are placed in inner city neighborhoods to do exactly that.

It’s ironic that the one major party that opposes abortion and the disproportionate killing of black babies is actually predominantly comprised of white folks who are often labeled racists.

I also never thought I’d live to see the day Rep. Delauro was deemed not radical enough. This is not the party of JFK anymore. He would be so far right he would be considered a moderate conservative.

posted by: THREEFIFTHS on July 31, 2019 2:13pm posted by: Barking up the right tree on July 31, 2019 12:45pm The fact that the abortion industry has disproportionately killed millions of black babies over 4 decades doesn’t seem to bother certain people. Neither does the fact that many of these abortion clinics are placed in inner city neighborhoods to do exactly that. How about the Anti-abortion violence groups who have committed violence against individuals and organizations that provide abortion. Incidents of violence have included destruction of property, in the form of vandalism; crimes against people, including kidnapping, stalking, assault, attempted murder, and murder; and crimes affecting both people and property, including arson and bombings.By Anti-abortion violence groups.Anti-abortion extremists are considered a current domestic terrorist threat by the United States Department of Justice. Most documented incidents have occurred in the United States.One of the top groups is call The Army of God Which

is an underground network of domestic terrorists who believe that the use of violence is appropriate and acceptable as a means to end abortion. By the way as the saying goes you do not have to have a abortion if you do not want one.

posted by: Barking up the right tree on July 31, 2019 2:41pm @3/5

I totally agree with you : all violence is abhorrent behavior especially murder.

I do not condone any violence.

As a school teacher I see more of it than I want on a daily basis.

There should be no tolerance for any of it under ANY circumstances.

posted by: Callisto on July 31, 2019 2:48pm @barkinguptherighttree - Your uncritical certitude and self-righteousness are pretty nauseating. What are your views on gun proliferation, the death penalty, medical care for all, babies in cages separated from their moms, dumping bombs on Yemen, grabbing female genitalia, sexual predators in the Oval Office? Lemme guess…. You know nothing of the medical issues of those you purport to care about nor can you see that this is a complex issue that involves a myriad of perspectives, moral, religious, social, medical and otherwise. A little maturity, thought and humility might lead you to understand that none of us has ALL the answers.

posted by: Barking up the right tree on July 31, 2019 3:06pm @callisto

Murder is murder. Trying to hide behind some TDS rant does nothing to change it. You can do all the soul searching you want to justify your issues.

It won’t bring back the millions of dead babies who died long before your stance on current events.

posted by: OverTheRiverThruTheHood on July 31, 2019 3:49pm guess what Rosa is not getting, my vote. I am a New Haven resident and registered Democrat, and I want him impeached now. I will support any primary challenger to Rosa that does support impeachment. She is wrong, and it is time for her to go.

posted by: Callisto on July 31, 2019 8:19pm @barkingupthewrongtree

My soul searching is fine - cheers. Not hiding behind anything - my point was clearly stated. Let’s agree to mourn the murder of potential universes perpetuated by millions every day and before 9 a.m.

posted by: Barking up the right tree on July 31, 2019 11:24pm @Callista

Ok fair enough.

posted by: EvaFrankenberger on August 3, 2019 3:11pm Are impeachment and running in 2020 mutually exclusive?

Don’t our congressional representatives swear an oath of office that included preserving and protecting the Constitution of the United States?

When criminal acts, by a sitting President, have been clearly documented, is it not the sworn duty of our elected representatives to exercise the power to impeach?