It seems like Briana Culberson isn't the only one who may have felt a sigh of relief when Brooks Ayers and her mother Vicki Gunvalson broke up.

During an exclusive sit-down interview with E! News, Ayers explained that he and Vicki began seeing a counselor back in March. He said he talked about their relationship not being a lasting one, and saying the words stirred some new feelings in him.

"I said, 'Listen, we need some third-party help. I'm not gonna be influenced by you,'" he told us. "So we began seeing, of all things, a reality TV couples counselor. We made the decision that we probably weren't going to be for forever, and when I made that statement mid-July in the counseling session, it was like…the piano was lifted off my back."

Meanwhile, Vicki had a different choice of words when discussing their split.