birdie Only in the world of rabid AMD fanboys someone gets shafted. In this world anyone who buys anything produced by NVIDIA and Intel gets shafted automatically.



By this token there should be no progress at all.



By the same token companies should never release new slightly better products within 24 months after release.



By the same token people who strive for the highest performance, no matter the cost, are utter idiots (e.g. all those who have bought NVIDIA's Titans/Ti's or Intel's HEDT CPUs).



It's getting utterly ridiculous. Every news where Intel or NVIDIA gets mentioned turns into some holy war against these companies even when they release decent products at decent prices.



Could we please stop with that and instead discuss the actual products without this frantic fanboyism?



This final paragraph will probably draw a lot of flak but I'm gonna utter it anyways. Last but not least anyone who has replaced their working Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/Haswell/SkyLake systems with equivalent (the same core/threads count) Kaby Lake CPUs is indeed an idiot unless the said person absolutely couldn't live without new platform features (NVMe/M.2/USB-C/etc.).

There are people like that but you are calling a shitstorm on yourself by generalizing people as fanboys.Let's be forward here, the only Kaby Lake CPU that's worth it is the 7700k if you plan on overclocking it, to only play games, and only expect to get the best performance for a short period. In every other scenario, the 1700, 1700x, or 1800x is simply the better choice. If you already have a 2000 series Intel processor or better there is little reason to upgrade to kaby if you aren't increasing your core count."By the same token companies should never release new slightly better products within 24 months after release."I believe Nvidia has released "the most powerful card in the world" within months of each other. It takes 9 months to tape out a card so they knew they had a more powerful card multiple time yet charged flagship price for each one. 1080 > Titan Xp > 1080 Ti. 980 > 980 Ti. The 980 Ti was the quickest drop, coming in within a month of the 980's release."By the same token people who strive for the highest performance, no matter the cost, are utter idiots (e.g. all those who have bought NVIDIA's Titans/Ti's or Intel's HEDT CPUs)."I would say refer to the point above, where Nvidia and Intel are actually keeping their top end products from the customer. So in reality, to keep biting the carrot and buying the "fastest card or CPU" is quite dumb indeed because it's not really the fastest.