As part of his performance at the first-ever ComplexCon next month, Skrillex gave an exclusive interview to Complex with some really juicy information. This isn’t the first time that Skrillex has spoken with Complex, appearing in a massive cover story back in 2014, but it’s definitely one of his more revealing interviews, in terms of just pure information that he gave out.

In this new interview, he talks about the “only time I really got upset [with deadmau5].” It was after the Ultra Twitter fiasco with Marshmello, when it was believed that ‘mello created a false story to bait mau5 into a Twitter feud (which he willingly entered). The story went back and forth whether the incident in question actually happened, but Joel was still his usual asshole persona.

Weeks later, Marshmello tweeted at deadmau5 again. Who knows why… he couldn’t have expected a different reaction. And once again, mau5 took the bait.

In the Complex interview, Skrillex says, “Marshmello is this young kid who looks up to deadmau5, and the first tweet he gets from deadmau5 is talking shit about him. That’s when I had to stand up and be like, ‘Stop being a fucking bully to people.’”

Skrillex posits that the reason behind Joel’s abrasive personality is because he hasn’t been as ambitious in his own music. “I think he may be scared to really step outside of what he does. But when someone else tries to do something new and they’re successful at it? I’ve put plenty of other records out that aren’t as successful but he doesn’t talk about those, you know what I mean? He’s only talking about things that are popping off.”

Read the whole interview on Complex here.

Image via Rukes