20:42 kalandrawow: you want a mod?20:43 Jenny: sure20:44 kalandrawow: 00:00:388 (1,2,4,5) - why isn't 2 in line with 1 like 4 is in line with 5?20:44 kalandrawow: seems like it'd be a neat pattern to start off with20:45 Jenny: I didn't want to keep the whole strictly-clockwise theme going past one pattern20:45 Jenny: so you have to catch 5 more actively again since you then swap over to the left20:45 Jenny: and cross through 4 on the 6-120:45 Jenny: gives a better entry into the next combo due to the snaps20:46 kalandrawow: moving 1 and 2 to allow them to be a straight line won't hamper the transition from 4->5->6, but alas this is almost always going to be giving my personal advice rather than actual "this shit is wronk"20:47 Jenny: if I put 1-2 into a straight line, the triangle becomes extremely static20:47 kalandrawow: true, and i'd prefer it that way, since it's rather awkward as a "spiraly" pattern20:47 kalandrawow: it doesnt last long enough to feel circle-y20:48 Jenny: I don't like having something in the middle of a triangle, most of the time20:48 Jenny: specifically if it's a slider, which screws with the consistency of distance between the objects20:49 kalandrawow: that's fine, like i said, personal advice rather than telling you it's wrong20:49 kalandrawow: 00:02:234 - this isn't as powerful as the start or anything else for a while for that matter, i believe this kiai is quite superfluous20:49 Jenny: actually20:49 Jenny: I will make it more kiais20:49 kalandrawow: a high density of kiai doesn't make the song more epic20:49 kalandrawow: it makes it more childish20:50 kalandrawow: imo20:50 Jenny: well yeah20:50 kalandrawow: you've already got pretty liberal use of kiai going there20:50 Jenny: this is 2/1 for the intro, and the intro only20:51 kalandrawow: 00:33:695 (1,1) - OH GOD20:51 kalandrawow: 1/3 spinner ending lol20:51 kalandrawow: ignore that its just me whining20:51 Jenny: the entire song works in 1/320:51 kalandrawow: i hate spinners with a passion20:51 Jenny: or 1/6 rather20:51 kalandrawow: i know20:51 Jenny: I only use the spinner since the guitar goes very frontlayer-ish here while not having any additional strings20:51 kalandrawow: its more the short time before the spinner ends and the note starts20:51 kalandrawow: i am aware20:51 kalandrawow: i just20:51 kalandrawow: really hate20:51 kalandrawow: spinners20:51 Jenny: it's one of these pull-it-and-wobble-it scenarios20:51 Jenny: :p20:52 Jenny: a spinner doesn't block approachcircles though20:52 kalandrawow: Now, one thing i want to ask20:52 Jenny: *unless you use the awful default one x:20:52 kalandrawow: is the non-exactly-perfect spacing of patterns a stylistic choice because lesjuh often did the same or is it just unpolished20:53 Jenny: ?20:53 Jenny: what does that mean20:53 kalandrawow: When you have patterns like a triangle or a square or stuff like that20:53 kalandrawow: they won't form a perfect triangle or square ever20:54 Jenny: such as?20:54 Jenny: when I actually want to use triangles/squares, I use perfect ones20:54 kalandrawow: 00:44:234 (5,6,7) - e.g. 5 isn't halway between 6 and 720:54 kalandrawow: basically20:54 Jenny: that is not meant to be a triangle20:54 kalandrawow: asymetrical shapes20:54 Jenny: that is a back and forth pattern20:54 Jenny: it's meant to resonate with the bouncing of the hitclap20:54 kalandrawow: i prefer symmetry but i'm nuts like that, its a stylistic choice like i asked20:55 kalandrawow: just wanted to make sure it was intentional20:55 Jenny: thing about symmetrical patterns is20:55 Jenny: they are more static20:55 kalandrawow: indeed20:55 Jenny: I use symmetry for key high-pressure parts of the map20:55 Jenny: like the triangle spam before second kiai20:55 Jenny: 02:20:695 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -20:55 kalandrawow: but i usually map really repetetive, techno-like thigns with really consistent beats, so static-ness is far easier to control and manipulate20:55 Jenny: high-pressured cursorbinding20:56 kalandrawow: while a "live" play of a song like this favors more organic patterns20:56 kalandrawow: 01:02:695 (5) - move this down 1 gridspot?20:57 Jenny: >"gridspot"20:57 kalandrawow: tiny, of course20:57 Jenny: but yeah, a little bit20:57 kalandrawow: SHUSH20:57 kalandrawow: terminology is my kryptonite20:57 Jenny: 92|129 -> 95|13720:57 Jenny: so yeah, moved20:57 kalandrawow: ya sure20:58 kalandrawow: 01:11:926 (6) - snap to tiny grid or move it even a bit further left20:59 Jenny: 274|24 -> 270|2321:00 kalandrawow: sounds good21:00 kalandrawow: only the dankest of nazi mods21:00 Jenny: fine with me21:00 Jenny: chances for you to find things that are /wrong/ on my maps are gonna be low low21:00 kalandrawow: 02:10:541 (5) - nigga ur slider is offgrid21:01 kalandrawow: right as u say that21:01 kalandrawow: lol21:01 Jenny: so what21:01 kalandrawow: i thought all notes including slider ending are required to be in-grid21:01 Jenny: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3220434 21:01 Jenny: not really21:01 kalandrawow: seems fairly obvious to me21:01 Jenny: playfield is bigger21:01 kalandrawow: well it would have been an issue back when i was mapping, if it's changed now then ignore it21:01 kalandrawow: moving on21:02 Jenny: back in MY day21:04 kalandrawow: *waves cane in futile anger*21:04 Jenny: so when was your day? :p21:04 kalandrawow: shhh21:04 kalandrawow: also21:04 kalandrawow: your sliders look neat even if they're not symmetrical21:04 kalandrawow: surprising21:05 kalandrawow: most people are ass at making sliders21:05 Jenny: I should make a bezier-only map :p21:05 kalandrawow: you should also have some delicious rusty nails for saying that aloud21:06 Jenny: how so, my beziers are decent x:21:06 kalandrawow: mostly hypebole joking21:06 Jenny: also my stream shapes are juicy21:06 kalandrawow: i keep forgetting that now that hitbursts arent fucking ugly we can overlap notes more freely21:07 Jenny: I actually never had problems with the 2010 default hitbursts21:07 kalandrawow: good streams are easy - make a slider, follow the slider21:07 Jenny: I still like playing and mapping with that skin21:07 Jenny: I never used the slider-to-stream things21:07 kalandrawow: they were a pain in the ass to map with21:07 Jenny: I do it free-hand21:07 kalandrawow: because people would cry "slider kickback invisible! slider kickback invisible!"21:07 Jenny: I mapped with them, bae :p21:07 Jenny: but yeah, my first ranked map got unranked over that21:08 kalandrawow: so did i21:08 Jenny: eitherhow21:08 Jenny: anything else? :p21:12 kalandrawow: gonna be busy, something came up21:12 kalandrawow: but yeah mostly fine21:13 Jenny: "fine"