<herkz> i mean we sent them the translated scripts for kajitsu months and months ago and they never looked at them at all

<CoffeeFlux> this is truly a masterpiece of a website

<herkz> until they hired this new guy pretty recently

<herkz> then they found things to complain about

<herkz> so i'm quite sure none of them know any english

<Good_Haro> oh they were giving you guys shit over the script?

<CoffeeFlux> wow

<Good_Haro> that sucks :\

<herkz> yes

<herkz> of course

<herkz> they complain about everything

<CoffeeFlux> i'm sure you love having people that barely know english criticize your tl

<CoffeeFlux> that sounds like a fun and fulfilling experience

<herkz> nah, it's the creators complaining

<CoffeeFlux> o

<herkz> the guy who knows english just translates back and forth

<CoffeeFlux> what can they complain about?

<herkz> how stuff was localized

<herkz> probably like "omg how dare you change my vision for this specific thing???" or something

<CoffeeFlux> so you have people that don't know english complaining about your localization decisions

<CoffeeFlux> even better

<Moogy> yes

<herkz> i said not to give in

<Good_Haro> the worst we've had to deal with lately is logos getting rejected :\

<Ayumii> logos?

<Good_Haro> we've been trying to do english logos for things but they have to be approved and stuff

<Good_Haro> to be expected but yeah

<ultama121> have they suggested any reasonable localization changes?

<ultama121> or is it just them saying "we don't like this" and then letting you loose

<herkz> of course not

<herkz> they basically want things to not be translated

<ultama121> lol

<herkz> which is not a reasonable solution

<CoffeeFlux> lovely

<CoffeeFlux> they should hire eclipse editors

<herkz> also it's kind of funny because the game has been on steam for a while now

<Good_Haro> are they trying to get you to change shit now...? lol

<Moogy> yes

<Moogy> they clearly never actually looked at the scripts before

<Good_Haro> that's um...

<Good_Haro> lol

<Moogy> the issue in question is probably something they only noticed because it's in the ED videos

<Moogy> and they kept bitching about the videos

<Good_Haro> man that sucks

<Moogy> i can't blame SP if they never work with FW again

<Moogy> and it looks like FW wants to do their own stuff now anyway

<Good_Haro> yeah everything I"ve heard just sounds awful...

<Moogy> so i hope people enjoy an engrish translation of hatsumira

<herkz> it's funny because they refuse and/or can't give us any useful files for the videos but they give all these ridiculous requirements

<Moogy> the engine also only supports mpeg1

<Good_Haro> MG's partners sound like a cakewalk by comparison

<Moogy> ;)

<ultama121> it'd be amazing if they just contract some Fuwanovel-er to translate Hatsumira

<herkz> like it's gonna be shit no matter what if they don't want to help

<ultama121> and then it does as well as Nekopara

<CoffeeFlux> wait

<CoffeeFlux> they wouldn't give you the video masters?

<Moogy> hatsumira is an all-ages game to begin with so they were probably considering some sort of overseas release w/ it

<CoffeeFlux> you had to work off the shit in the jp release?

<herkz> for the 18+ version

<herkz> yes

<herkz> prototype has them for the all ages version

<CoffeeFlux> wtf

<herkz> it'd probably cost money for frontwing to buy them back since they apparently lost them

<ultama121> given the complicated process to grab the ero patch for Hatsumira, i think you're right Moogy. its all planned out

<herkz> and the entire point of this project is for frontwing to make as much money as possible

<herkz> so they're not gonna spend any money unless they have to

<Moogy> well the stated reason for hatsumira being all-ages is to make it easier to market and adapt into anime etc.

<Moogy> but i'm sure an international release is on their minds

<Moogy> at leastn ow

<Moogy> *now

<herkz> remember that frontwing raised the kickstarter goal by $40k for literally no reason

<Repiphany> More money!

<CoffeeFlux> after the kickstarter was created?

<herkz> no

<herkz> from the prefundia

<herkz> it was $100k at first

<CoffeeFlux> ah

<herkz> then they told us to make it $140k

<herkz> because they wanted more money

<CoffeeFlux> lovely

<Moogy> i try to assume the best about japanese companies but that's hard to do with FW :(

<herkz> it's funny because in the end they got way more money than they imagined

<herkz> and are still greedy as fuck

<Good_Haro> man and i thought minori was a handful, but they're actually helpful despite some of the silly stuff they do

<ultama121> its hard to believe that they're so willing to bite their newly monetized fandom that's generating quite a bit of revenue

<herkz> maybe if we're lucky chiruchiru won't sell very well and they'll realize they dont' know what they're doing

<herkz> don't*

<Good_Haro> are you sure they won't just blame you guys

<Good_Haro> for it doing badly

<herkz> i don't think that's possible

<Ayumii> or they say western market is useless

<Ayumii> :D

<Good_Haro> well they don't exactly sound like the most logical company...

<ultama121> they can't do that after they 475k on kickstarter Ayumii

<Ayumii> its frontwing after all

<Ayumii> they dont need a reason

<herkz> yeah they got like half of that as pure profit

<herkz> by doing nothing

<herkz> except uploading some files for us

<Moogy> and they had a hard time even doing that

<herkz> it's easy to forget apparently

<Good_Haro> lol...

<herkz> we couldn't even start on meikyuu for like a month because they didn't send us the files for the all ages version

<Good_Haro> I think moonstone got us the w happiness stuff in like a few hours after evo talked to them about doing it

<Good_Haro> + a bunch of extra stuff we didn't even ask for

<herkz> also there's not even an all ages pc build for meikyuu and rakuen

<herkz> so i guess doddler has to combine them himself

<Good_Haro> fun

<Moogy> i guess that's what happens when companies give a shit about their products

<Moogy> since FW doesn't seem to

<herkz> like i said, they're doing nearly nothing

<Ice_Rabbit> FW seems like a pretty shitty company in general

<Moogy> look now herkz. they found a bunch of obscure engine bugs and blamed them on doddler