

1999-11-02: Webbsleuths Forum (http://www.webbsleuths.org)

"Q&A with Pam Paugh 2"



3 . "another answer from email - Amanda"

Posted by jameson on Nov-02-99 at 08:36 AM (EST)



"In email, Amanda asked, "It is obvious your brother in law and sister do not have a normal life what with all this media attention they have to endure,but how about the 3 children ? Are any of them able to have a normal life?"



Melinda is happily married and very dedicated to her profession in nursing. John Andrew continues with his education and Burke is active in sports and music. Thanks for asking!!





9 . "LOTS of answers "

Posted by jameson on Nov-02-99 at 03:04 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON Nov-02-99 AT 09:59 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON Nov-02-99 AT 09:33 PM (EST)



*What year did JBR win the Miss Charlevoix pageant?"



JonBenet was born August 1990



She was 4yrs old...almost 5 when the Miss Charlevoix pageant was held.



This would have been July 7 - 9 of 1995, She turned 5 in August of 1995.



I was there. I flew into TCity about 11:30pm the night before.



Mothers were not permitted to attend the rehersals and Patsy told the pageant director that she would not leave her daughter unattended in a high school auditorium without a family member. The director allowed me to attend instead. I sat in a chair all day watching the activities. JonBenet could not see me...but I could see her from my vantage point. If she went behind the stage, I did too! The stage was crawling with "stagehands" who were preparing backdrops, curtains, lights, etc. I was also backstage with JonBenet during the performance. She stood by my side waiting for her turn to go on....I could hardly keep her still...



"Aunt Pam, when is it my turn????!!!!"



I remember one of the ladies/helpers backstage asked me to leave the area and leave JonBenet with her....I said politely, "where she goes, I go".



You see...I have been in theater for years and there are many many areas behind a stage curtain where children can be injured. Wires, ropes, electrical items, props, ladders, hot bulbs, scaffolding, etc....need I say more. I don't think Patsy was ever concerned about the stagehands...these were wonderful men and women giving of their time and talents. But, no one in their right mind would ever leave a child alone in this type of situation.....and we NEVER did.



"*Where was the pageant held? *Was there newspaper coverage at the time?"



Yes, the local Charlevoix paper covered pre and post pageant events.



"*Who (or how many) in Charlevoix knew the Ramsey's would be arriving on the 26th?"



No knowledge....the visit was to meet with John Andrew and Melinda to continue family Christmas...thus the older children were already on a plane the morning of 12/26 when they had to be diverted to Denver...



"*Did John Ramsey belong to the "Chicago Club" there? Any boating clubs?"



John And Patsy have many friends who are members of the Chicago Club. They themselves are members of the Charlevoix Country Club. John primarily used the Irish Boat Works for docking and maintenance, but the only boat club I am aware of is one in GA....the University Yacht Club



"*Did anyone in Charlevoix show a particular interest in the Ramseys---JonBenet?"



Yes, there were people who were fascinated with the dynamics of our life. Most people I observed were quite taken with Patsy and JonBenet both. Keep in mind that we did not then....nor do we now.....live like the rich and famous. We are just everyday people, born of very poor heritage, who happened to have worked hard, lived clean, and are continuing to stand on THE WORD.



"*When did the Ramsey's participate in the local historical group's open tour of homes? Was JonBenet at the home when it was open? Did a lot of people go thru?"



The organizing committee could give you these specifics:



JonBenet was not at home....the entire familys of the tour homes were moved to hotel accommodations during the tour days.



I am told that people bought tickets two and three times to see the house.



Interestingly: that same Christmas, while I was working for Chanel, a man approached me one day who was wearing a COLORADO sweatshirt. We talked and it came to pass that he inquired about the tour of homes and the beautiful little girl in the portrait at the Ramseys....



The police didn't find that odd at all....



"*Why do you think the police used the Coldwater, MI. website to publicize the santa bear? The partyline says they contacted teddybear websites asking them to look at the bear, but there were no hits until after the bear was publicized."



don't know....





5 . "answer to email question"

Posted by jameson on Nov-02-99 at 02:43 PM (EST)



"Could you please find out for me if John Ramsey flew into the Traverse City airport, or the Charlevoix airport. Or both? Also, if Pam could ask them how much time they spent in Traverse City...friends there, etc....all this in connection with 'Michigan Connections' thread."



The Charlevoix airport was used. It is private, whereas, TCity is commercial. Burke has a school friend whose grandparents live in TCity, and I believe there are other acquaintances and friends they may visit from time to time.





6 . "Answer for mousey"

Posted by jameson on Nov-02-99 at 02:46 PM (EST)



"Very curious why the barbie nightgown was found in the basement. If the reports are correct, this was a favorite of JBR's----who would have known that? Why would that particular piece of clothing have been take"



It is my information that this gown was found in a closet....and yes, she was fond of it because it had a Barbie picture on the front which looked like her. My mother purchased it here in GA at a local Kmart. I was with her.



JonBenet did NOT take things to bed with her as security...



I am aware of one woman who hated the nightgown, was terribly jealous of Patsy's life and hated JonBenet's success.....go figure??? The police have been told of this and say it is on NO Concern....yea right.





7 . "WOW _ THIS IS NEWS!!!"

Posted by jameson on Nov-02-99 at 02:49 PM (EST)



"Did the killer bring a Santa Suit in the duffel bag that was found that he changed into--perfect cover and disguise---or did he wear it into the house with the hi-tec boots?"



Excellent question!!! The Ramseys did not own a Santa outfit!!!





14 . "mousey's question answered"

Posted by jameson on Nov-02-99 at 09:52 PM (EST)



"... is there any truth to the rumour that there was a suitcase in the basement containing the nightgown and a Dr. Seuss book? When I heard that one I wondered if the perp had convinced JBR to pack a little bag of her favorite things so she could go on a visit with Santa or some such excuse... I've since assumed that it was just a rumour, but have never confirmed it...."



not true...





15 . "Response to MM"

Posted by jameson on Nov-02-99 at 09:54 PM (EST)



"What has Patsy done to help solve the crime?"



Patsy has been very involved in the quest for finding JonBenet's killers.



Keep in mind that such activities are like double-edged swords; wanting to find facts and yet not wanting to look into the horror of such a killing.



Both she and John have participated fully with the BPD even going so far as to pay for their own psychological profiling at the BPD's request. (which they passed with flying colors) They talk daily with investigators regarding leads and clues which filter in through various ports. Beyond that, I an not at liberty to disclose actual details of their involvement with seeing evidence.



Let me just say this.....what the public has been lead to believe is far from the truth. The media, though they find themselves to be "investigative journalists" have been used as pawns.....throwing the public just enough bloody flesh to make them hungry.





29 . "answers for Maikai - including a wow..."

Posted by jameson on Nov-03-99 at 04:02 PM (EST)



"*Were there any items missing from the Ramsey's home? In other words, did the killer take anything that the Ramsey's are aware of?"



Several items were taken....which I must not mention.



"*Was there a red heart drawn around a newspaper clipping of John Ramsey, and if so, do the Ramsey's know who drew it?"



Yes there was a heart drawn around John's face with "NO" written over his face. And NO they do not know who wrote it.





28 . "answer for Maikai"

Posted by jameson on Nov-03-99 at 03:55 PM (EST)



"The note contains so much hatred and venom----could someone have been so jealous of Patsy they wanted to destroy her? She had had good result with her cancer therapy....everything in her life that Christmas of l996 was positive, and she had so much to look forward to. Some people are aware that there can be a mind/body connection with cancer outcomes. That a terrible trauma can somehow trigger the cancer---just like positive thoughts can cure it."



BINGO!!! I have said this same thing from day one!





30 . "Reply for Bluefire"

Posted by jameson on Nov-03-99 at 04:04 PM (EST)



"Sorry to have you have to aske such aquestion but the following is from an article in the Enquirer, same source as the Barbie nightgown as security blanket story. Does this sound like JonBenét at all? " Hoffmann-Pugh disclosed that JonBenet was terribly embarrassed to be seen naked by anyone, including her daughter Ariana. "If I happened to walk in on her and she had her top off, she'd make a face and quickly fold her arms over her chest and turn away from me," the housekeeper recalled. "It was very clear that she was alarmed and didn't want anyone seeing her chest, even though she was completely undeveloped."



I think this confirms my knowledge that Ariana was not "close" with JonBenet.



for example....even at my age 40. I would not cover myself if my girlfriend of 35 years came in my room.....and eventhough I have spent time in person with Jameson....and I feel comfortable with her, I would cover myself under the same situation.



JonBenet NEVER covered herself when I was with her (with one exception; and the BPD are aware of this and the facts surrounding it).





26 . "She's back!!!"

Posted by jameson on Nov-03-99 at 03:53 PM (EST)



"Question - Was this the Boulder home or Charlevoix?"



Answer - The Boulder home was on the Christmas tour. Not the Charlevoix home.



Although the lakehouse "SummerHill" was supposed to have been photographed for an upcoming edition of Beautiful Homes....at least I recall that as to the magazine making the request.





27 . "answer on the man in the sweatshirt"

Posted by jameson on Nov-03-99 at 03:53 PM (EST)



"What city were you in when this guy approached you? That was Christmas of which year? Which home had he toured when he saw the portrait? Don't you find it strange that he just happened to pick you out, and started talking about the tour of homes and JonBenet's portrait? Did he know you were JonBenet's aunt? What was he shopping for? Did he buy anything? I find it EXTREMELY odd. How old was he? What did he look like? Any kind of an accent to indicate what part of the country he was from?"



Very insightful questions....the police have the answers.





38 . "Answer to Mikie"

Posted by jameson on Nov-04-99 at 03:44 PM (EST)



"I would like Pam to tell us if Patsy ever had anything to do with occult. We know JonBenet once dressed as a witch during Halloween. Is it in any way possible?"



This ideal of the occult is not an option. Our belief in Christ does not allow it.



Patsy did NOT have any connection to the occult. If you consider Mormons a cult, (like some do) then I must tell you here that one of her housekeeping employees was of that particular religion.



However, Patsy and John made no judgments about that.



Yes, JonBenet did dress as a Witch on Halloween one time. She happened to be in Atlanta and asked me where she could find the "prettiest witch" outfit....'



When I asked her why she wanted to be a witch she told me... " everybody always makes a witch look ugly and mean and I want to be different!"



So, I told Patsy of a place I knew of where they sold costume items (I was the spearhead for all of JonBenets and Burkes projects) and she went there and bought this witch outfit. It is my understanding that there were several comments made by a very bitter woman in Boulder about this costume when JonBenet wore it to her school Halloween party.





39 . "Answers for WhyNut"

Posted by jameson on Nov-04-99 at 03:47 PM (EST)



"Did you often, or rarely, see Jonbenet feeling unwell during the time period that Patsy was frequently taking her to see Dr. Beuf?"



I have even taken Her to Dr.Beuff.....and your point would be???



"Linda McLean said in her book that you and your sisters have many cousins, aunts and uncles other than the only cousin who contributed (Debbie). Given how open, friendly, loving and generous to her family and friends that Patsy has been described as being, can you say whether any of these other relatives visited her Georgia, Colorado or Michigan homes? Did any of them attend the family reunions of 1995 or 1996?"



Yes.



"You have put much of an emphasis on the Christianity of the family, including your own faith and Patsy's. Yet, on CNN recently, you and Valerie Voss were interviewed on-screen at the same time, and you expressed pleasure at talking to her for the first time. Since Valerie said she attended the same church as the Ramseys, and surely you would have encountered long-time friends of your sister's at her church, does this mean that you do not attend the same church as Patsy?"



For an investigative reporter....you have not done your homework.



The church you speak of has currently over 13K members....I primarily was involved with over 4 different singles groups and about 800 members...



I would have had no contact with Voss or her husband. I have met the members of Patsy's and John's Sunday School Class....not necessarily their Bible study group members....just as I am sure they could not tell you they had ever met all the members of the For Singles Only group which I was in. By the way.... I do not currently attend this church and haven't for some time now.



