Durham, N.C. -- The scandal that has rocked college basketball to its very core since last summer's revelation of an FBI investigation into illegal recruiting activities erupted again this past week.

Reports from Yahoo Sports implicated dozens of college programs and players in the investigation into agents paying recruits, then steering them to certain colleges where college coaches would them encourage them to sign with the same agency.

An ESPN.com story reported that Arizona coach Sean Miller had been caught on an FBI wiretap discussing a $100,000 payment to then recruit and current Arizona freshman DeAndre Ayton.

The reports resulted in the suspensions of some players, while Miller has stepped aside, at least temporarily, at Arizona.

On Saturday, Mike Krzyzewski and Jim Boeheim, two of the game's most prominent coaches, faced each other on the court as Duke hosted Syracuse at Cameron Indoor Stadium. Then after Duke's 60-44 win over Syracuse, the two winningest coaches in college basketball history discussed the current state of the game.

The two spoke at length and broadly about recent events and their impact on the future of the game.

"It's a difficult time right now for college basketball,'' Boeheim said. "We have to wait and see where all this stuff falls and then try to make some changes. It's not going to be easy.''

"It's a horrible time for the game,'' said Krzyzewski. "But the game has begged, it's been on its knees, begging for change for years.''

What could some of those changes be? What does the NCAA need to do? Is this about recruits, agents or coaches?

Here's what Boeheim and Krzyzewski had to say on a variety of topics:

Agents

Boeheim: "Everybody knows for 30 years agent have been involved with players' families. This is nothing that would surprise anybody in coaching. Agents are trying to get clients. When you have the one-and-done factor, they need to get them early. They can't wait four years. They have to go after them. That's not surprising."

Krzyzewski: "Why do they feel compelled to talk to people who aren't credentialed? I'd rather to talk to an agent who has a reputation, who has a degree and who understands that they have to build a reputation so they would have other people that they would represent. I think that's where I'd start out.''

The scope of the FBI investigation

Boeheim: "This is one agent. You think the other agents aren't doing anything? You think they're not going after parents, not talking to parents? We have blinders on. Agents are going to do that. We talk to our players. We talk to the parents. We pray that doesn't happen, that they'll wait, but obviously, as you see with this things that things happen.''

Amateurism

Krzyzewski: "Sometimes unless something horrible happens, you just don't change. We need to change. We need to take a look at amateurism. Define it probably differently. We have to look at it through the prism of a 16-year-old and his family and what they should be allowed and make sure it's the same things that are allowed to other NCAA athletes.''

On the charges against college coaches:

Boehim: "The thing that's been surprising this year is, obviously, the assistant coaches being involved and .... I don't know what the facts are and I'm not going to comment on that as far as what has happened at Arizona. I don't know.

"The thing that ruins everything for me is when coaches get involved in this. There's just no understanding of that. I think it goes back to the old thing 'Well, somebody's going to do it, so I'll do it.' I hope that isn't the case. I don't think it is. The problem with this case and when that happens, then everybody's doing it.

"But the coaching thing? It's hard to get your hands around that. It really is.''

On agents at the high school level

Krzyzewski: "For any college coach, the thing that always worries me is what I don't know. Somebody can say you're supposed to know everything. You can't know everything. You can know as much as possible while they're here, but it's impossible for you to know what went on before they got here. It's impossible. That's the area that we have to change. Before they come to an NCAA school.''

On paying players

Boeheim: "You don't solve it by paying players. Agents are going to still try to get the player. We've done a lot of things for players. Nobody mentions it. The cost of attendance. All this stuff that's been done. Most players get their full scholarship and if they have a need at all, if they have a need for Pell, they get about $15,000. If you get a full scholarship and about $15,000 and you're a college student, you should be OK.''

"I'm not opposed to giving players a little more money. That's fine. The cost of attendance was a great thing. I think we should expand on that. Parents should be able to come to the games. Parents should be able to come to every tournament game. All that is good. That is not going to stop an agent from trying to get a player.

"What's so disheartening to me is when people who are really intelligent keep saying 'They're making billions of dollars.' We make our share, just like everybody does, at Syracuse. We sell a lot of tickets. Our athletic department barely breaks even. Now, if you just say 'Don't have any other sports' and basketball makes $16 million then we should be giving it all back. A lot of it. To the players. But all that money pays for everything else.''

The one-and-done rule

Boeheim: "It won't change the whole thing, but one-and-done would help. Get that out. That has to go because the best players will be out of there. Hopefully, you'll get guys that want to be in college. I don't mind guys coming for one year. That's fine. We've had them. But if they really want to go, they should be able to go. Bill Gates didn't want to go to college. He did all right. I don't think you should make people go to college. They don't make golfers or tennis players or anybody else go to college. That will help. It won't change everything, but it will help.''