User Info: OrgeLambart OrgeLambart 2 years ago #1



I never realized that people these days are so pro-piracy,, not sure how or why this has happened.. You'd figure with people our hobby being gaming, most people would at the very least tow the line in the middle.. It's amazing how many people have zero issues with fully admitting to piracy and even bragging about it..



When I think about why companies like Rockstar decide to diss PC gamers I understand completely this is part of the reason why.. What's an extra 500k - 1 million copies of a game sold, that you're already going to sell 20 million of on the console, when you know PC gamers will just pirate it 5 million times..



sigh, just makes me sad that more gamers don't share an anti piracy mentality.. Xboxlive - Orge Lambart , Steam ID - Orge Lambart, PSN - Orgelambart I'm anti piracy, have always been anti piracy, but normally i'm more passive with my views on piracy.. Yet I posted an anti piracy status on Steam and have gotten attacked by people for it.. By both private message and via response to my status.I never realized that people these days are so pro-piracy,, not sure how or why this has happened.. You'd figure with people our hobby being gaming, most people would at the very least tow the line in the middle.. It's amazing how many people have zero issues with fully admitting to piracy and even bragging about it..When I think about why companies like Rockstar decide to diss PC gamers I understand completely this is part of the reason why.. What's an extra 500k - 1 million copies of a game sold, that you're already going to sell 20 million of on the console, when you know PC gamers will just pirate it 5 million times..sigh, just makes me sad that more gamers don't share an anti piracy mentality..

User Info: Masamune_DS Masamune_DS 2 years ago #2 If a wizard turns me into Dawn then I would sooo touch myself every single night. ~ SoulGainDestiny What were the contents of some of these messages? I'm curious to know what their positions were.

User Info: OrgeLambart OrgeLambart (Topic Creator) 2 years ago #3 Masamune_DS posted...

What were the contents of some of these messages? I'm curious to know what their positions were.



hateful messages, summed up it was that people should be allowed to play the games if they live in a poor country, or to protest DRM, or it's a developer that they feel has anti consumer policy..



Pretty much the laundry list of reasons pirates give for stealing games, we've all seen them..



The most troubling are the people who have no issues going onto a games message board and fully admitting they pirated the game..



Huge on the Ni No Kuni 2 board, Xboxlive - Orge Lambart , Steam ID - Orge Lambart, PSN - Orgelambart hateful messages, summed up it was that people should be allowed to play the games if they live in a poor country, or to protest DRM, or it's a developer that they feel has anti consumer policy..Pretty much the laundry list of reasons pirates give for stealing games, we've all seen them..The most troubling are the people who have no issues going onto a games message board and fully admitting they pirated the game..Huge on the Ni No Kuni 2 board,

User Info: Bleu_Skie Bleu_Skie 2 years ago #4 http://steamcommunity.com/id/BleuSkie

It's important to know what the rules are first, so that, when you decide to break them, you can better judge the effect. While people shouldn't be acting like a******s to you, their opinions are just as valid. It seems like you just want more people to agree with you tbh.

User Info: OrgeLambart OrgeLambart (Topic Creator) 2 years ago #5 Bleu_Skie posted...

While people shouldn't be acting like a******s to you, their opinions are just as valid. It seems like you just want more people to agree with you tbh.



if by more people agreeing with me, you mean not wanting people to be pirates or steal games, then yeah you're right, I want everyone to agree with me..



or



at the very least be honest about your reasoning behind stealing games, it's not because you're some moral crusader looking to teach the publishers a lesson.. it's that you're a cheapo who wants to get something for free. Xboxlive - Orge Lambart , Steam ID - Orge Lambart, PSN - Orgelambart if by more people agreeing with me, you mean not wanting people to be pirates or steal games, then yeah you're right, I want everyone to agree with me..orat the very least be honest about your reasoning behind stealing games, it's not because you're some moral crusader looking to teach the publishers a lesson.. it's that you're a cheapo who wants to get something for free.

User Info: steve_madsci steve_madsci 2 years ago #6 Socialism has been around since the early 19th century, it's not a new thing.

User Info: Paulo_Lopes Paulo_Lopes 2 years ago #7



There's also the fact that, internationally, you might also be "fighting" against absurd taxation or outright lack of distribution of certain products in your region. When you have to deal with a government taking a cut that's equal or even superior to the cost of the game, a product they had zero participation in whatsoever... It's a tough pill to swallow. But again, those are international considerations that may be out of scope for this discussion.



That being said, those are just the excuses/reasons why some people pirate. The thing nowadays with some people praising piracy is the fact that companies began nickel and diming more and more. It's DLC practices ruining the experience, its game modes disappearing from the sequel, its game X requiring a spreadsheet to keep track of the contents of the the 5 different editions of the game.



Some companies made the process of buying a game into a hassle, either because you are buying in instalments (some times not even knowing what will come 2 months from now on the season pass) or because you have to do homework before buying a game since this console has exclusive DLC costume or that PC is non-functional.



It's easy to see how some people would jump at the opportunity to proclaim themselves as "freedom fighters" against corporate tyranny and think of themselves as cool and oh so smart for pirating a game instead of... You know... Making a company that provides the service on the level they expect. "If it was up to us, we'd port all of our games to PC." - Platinum Games, makers of the famous Nintendo exclusive franchise: Bayonetta Piracy was always appealing and popular from the point of view of absence of cost + ease of access + lack of repercussion.There's also the fact that, internationally, you might also be "fighting" against absurd taxation or outright lack of distribution of certain products in your region. When you have to deal with a government taking a cut that's equal or even superior to the cost of the game, a product they had zero participation in whatsoever... It's a tough pill to swallow. But again, those are international considerations that may be out of scope for this discussion.That being said, those are just the excuses/reasons why some people pirate. The thing nowadays with some people praising piracy is the fact that companies began nickel and diming more and more. It's DLC practices ruining the experience, its game modes disappearing from the sequel, its game X requiring a spreadsheet to keep track of the contents of the the 5 different editions of the game.Some companies made the process of buying a game into a hassle, either because you are buying in instalments (some times not even knowing what will come 2 months from now on the season pass) or because you have to do homework before buying a game since this console has exclusive DLC costume or that PC is non-functional.It's easy to see how some people would jump at the opportunity to proclaim themselves as "freedom fighters" against corporate tyranny and think of themselves as cool and oh so smart for pirating a game instead of... You know... Making a company that provides the service on the level they expect.

User Info: fallen_acolyte fallen_acolyte 2 years ago #8 ()___(_______()~~

PSN: Fallen_Acolyte XBL: Fallen Acolyte Back in 1999 maybe? Content always existed but the means of getting htem was always based on hardware or connection

User Info: OrgeLambart OrgeLambart (Topic Creator) 2 years ago #9 Paulo_Lopes posted...

Piracy was always appealing and popular from the point of view of absence of cost + ease of access + lack of repercussion.



There's also the fact that, internationally, you might also be "fighting" against absurd taxation or outright lack of distribution of certain products in your region. When you have to deal with a government taking a cut that's equal or even superior to the cost of the game, a product they had zero participation in whatsoever... It's a tough pill to swallow. But again, those are international considerations that may be out of scope for this discussion.



That being said, those are just the excuses/reasons why some people pirate. The thing nowadays with some people praising piracy is the fact that companies began nickel and diming more and more. It's DLC practices ruining the experience, its game modes disappearing from the sequel, its game X requiring a spreadsheet to keep track of the contents of the the 5 different editions of the game.



Some companies made the process of buying a game into a hassle, either because you are buying in instalments (some times not even knowing what will come 2 months from now on the season pass) or because you have to do homework before buying a game since this console has exclusive DLC costume or that PC is non-functional.



It's easy to see how some people would jump at the opportunity to proclaim themselves as "freedom fighters" against corporate tyranny and think of themselves as cool and oh so smart for pirating a game instead of... You know... Making a company that provides the service on the level they expect.



gaming price has stayed pretty stable over the last nearly 20 years, with games staying at around the 50 - 60 dollar price point.. All the while everything else has increased in price quite a bit.. Combine that with the fact that the cost of producing games has gotten quite a bit higher as well.. While it's understandable that some people will see the nickle and diming and get angry, would you rather pay an extra 20 dollars per game?



It's a give and take, with games being a luxury item and not having the ability to raise the price to keep up with the ever increasing cost of living, companies have had to find new ways to bring in revenue to stay afloat.. Xboxlive - Orge Lambart , Steam ID - Orge Lambart, PSN - Orgelambart gaming price has stayed pretty stable over the last nearly 20 years, with games staying at around the 50 - 60 dollar price point.. All the while everything else has increased in price quite a bit.. Combine that with the fact that the cost of producing games has gotten quite a bit higher as well.. While it's understandable that some people will see the nickle and diming and get angry, would you rather pay an extra 20 dollars per game?It's a give and take, with games being a luxury item and not having the ability to raise the price to keep up with the ever increasing cost of living, companies have had to find new ways to bring in revenue to stay afloat..