Re: Ubuntu may ship Nautilus 3.4 in Ubuntu 12.10 and consider other file managers

From: Sebastien Bacher <seb128 ubuntu com>

To: nautilus-list gnome org

Subject: Re: Ubuntu may ship Nautilus 3.4 in Ubuntu 12.10 and consider other file managers

Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 21:53:08 +0200

Le 08/08/2012 21:36, Adam Dingle a écrit :

According to comments #1 and #3 in this bug, Ubuntu is considering going back to Nautilus 3.4 in the upcoming 12.10 release: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1034080 And at their summit this fall they may discuss whether to stay with Nautilus or switch to another file manager such as Marlin or Nemo. In my opinion it would be really unfortunate for GNOME if Ubuntu were to drop Nautilus. I think we should try to work with Ubuntu to make sure that doesn't happen.

Hey Adam, Thanks for trying to make sure we found solutions that work for everybody.

The reason I didn't bring that upstream before is that distribution

issues are not really upstream issues (some people at GUADEC for example

were trying to message that distributions should distribute what

upstream is doing and not try to influence or discuss their choices,

which is a fair position but also a different position from what GNOME

has traditionally been doing)

The way GNOME is currently working though is making difficult for us

(Ubuntu) to take decisions on what to do. We traditionally have the

Ubuntu Developer Summit at the start of our cycle (which is start of the

GNOME cycle as well) and we plan work for the next release. At the time

of UDS none of the nautilus changes that happened this cycle were

announced so we didn't discuss that topic, but we got quite surprised by

the new direction nautilus is taking (while we were already on the 3.5

serie) and we are trying to ponder what to do next.

The lesson that we learned this cycle is that GNOME is not planning

their work enough in advance or communicating enough for us to keep

basing our distribution on the current unstable GNOME versions. If that

situation doesn't change we might well start following GNOME with one

cycle delay (i.e building our next version on the current stable rather

than following the current unstable), we can't really build a solid

product on shifting code where the direction is not communicated in

advance. The issue is not specific to nautilus though and this list

might not be the best place to discuss that...

Cheers, Sebastien Bacher