LuckyFool Profile Blog Joined June 2007 United States 9009 Posts Last Edited: 2010-11-13 02:58:28 #1

Banner made possible by Nokarot! (mostly...)



When:

The weekend after the MLG championship in Dallas.

Saturday November 13th, 11am



Where:

Cyber Ground PC Cafe

8630 Lee Hwy Ste#G

Fairfax, VA 22031

703-560-7115

http://www.cyberground.us/



How to Sign up:

Send an email to: cybergroundSC2@gmail.com with subject: "Cyberground Tournament #2 Signup" include your full name and Battle.net ID.Identifier. Player list will update here as signups are received. Please send all questions about the event location, rules, pc use and driver questions to this email. Don't PM me on TL! (I was buried up to my neck in TL PM's last time and kept missing signups)



Prizes:

$20 per player buy in per tournament participant at the lan center. ($10 for PC use at lan center and $10 for tournament buy in)



Around $500 (assuming ~50 players) + gear



(assuming ~50 players) + gear Top 4 at the moment will receive prizes. Depending on sponsor interest in the event this will most likely increase.



Free to spectate the event.



Format:



Groups into Bracket stage. Full rules packet (WITH DISCONNECT PROCEDURES!) to be posted no later than October 23rd.

Players in the top 1,000 on the global ladder (sc2ranks.com) are seeded into separate groups. and the rest of the groups are generated randomly using binary beast.

Tournament organizer/head admin: Torenhire



RULES: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ua0NN3Mli8O9qAECCD2ff1XRRCWMVKuwh4k0Xe-yJeI/edit?hl=en&authkey=CKO3ok8



Confirmed Player List: (51)

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LuckyFool.490

Drew.176

Shiver.963

Shazbot.906

Corrupt.308

Deramos.718

Fade.784

Hooktits 619

RuFF.394

Myrkur.969

Tethys.969

PhilPhoenix 178

StorrZerg.412

Kranrev.512

Erolivia.257

CheeseGrater.525

FakePromise.662

FnaticXeris.191

JuneCloud.774

avilo.833

Loophole.517

board.759

Nick.155

Deific.471

Grenst.691

Manzo.304

Sadistx.991

carpola 536

Glaucus.469

Cyrain.463

IXCMaestrO.738

Bloodhawk.772

SalamaNder.706

Jumei.856

aleta.429

verbal.525

Ultra.193

Halation.590

Jutai.520

ipp.190

gosu.981

maniac.111

Telephan.665

Magun.362

Slimpower.599

Nokarot.648

Bizilbur.572

FLiPNoTiK.502

WillMandella.990

Computer 224

Angrypeon.310

Aguno.235

Chris.1881

Squal.770

Sdot.933





Don't see your name on this list? Email cybergroundSC2@gmail.com to sign up!





Groups:

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Group A



Drew.176*

Deific.471

Nokarot.648

Shazbot.906

FLiPNoTiK.502





Group B



Fade.784*

Hooktits.619

verbal.525

Ultra.193

Kranrev.512





Group C



LuckyFool.490*

Bizilbur.572

ipp.190

Slimpower.599

SalamaNder.706

Jumei.856



Group D



avilo.833*

Jutai.520

Corrupt.308

Shiver.963

Glaucus.469

PhilPhoenix 178





Group E



gosu.981*

FnaticXeris.191

Halation.590

maniac.111

Nick.155

aleta.429



Group F



RuFF.394*

Sadistx.991

Loophole.517

Bloodhawk.772

board.759

Manzo.304



Group G



Cyrain.463*

CheeseGrater.525

Erolivia.257

WillMandella.990

carpola 536

Grenst.691



Group H



Tethys.969*

StorrZerg.412

IXCMaestrO.738

Magun.362

JuneCloud.774

FakePromise.662



Alternates:



Computer 224

Angrypeon.310

Aguno.235

Chris.1881

Squal.770

rockyte.818

Sdot.933

comandyzo.787

bautistaaa.256

schaefer.501

indiicheng.785

Deramos.718







Confirmed/Possible TL Attendees

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StorrZerg

Xeris

HatchetWound

LuckyFool

CheeseGrater

Torenhire

Nokarot

Zlasher

Sadistx

dw

vx70GTOJudgexv

MorningMusume11

Ipp

Corrupt61587

Akasha

GenoZStriker

HatchetWoundLuckyFoolCheeseGraterTorenhireNokarotZlasherSadistxdwvx70GTOJudgexvMorningMusume11IppCorrupt61587AkashaGenoZStriker



Casters

LOOKING for interested casters/streamers for this event. This event should be fairly high level, In past DC lan's we've had great players like Gretorp, Orb, Avilo, LastShadow, Devaztayta in attendance.



Misc.

There's always a number of high level players as well as a bunch of well known TL and local community members that attend these events. If you've never been to a lan before this is a great chance to get out and meet members of the local sc2 community! Or to observe some high level sc2 action in person!



Previous event thread:

Cyberground #1: Banner made possible by Nokarot! (mostly...)The weekend after the MLG championship in Dallas.Saturday November 13th, 11amCyber Ground PC Cafe8630 Lee Hwy Ste#GFairfax, VA 22031703-560-7115Send an email to: cybergroundSC2@gmail.com with subject: "Cyberground Tournament #2 Signup" include your full name and Battle.net ID.Identifier. Player list will update here as signups are received. Please send all questions about the event location, rules, pc use and driver questions to this email. Don't PM me on TL! (I was buried up to my neck in TL PM's last time and kept missing signups)Groups into Bracket stage. Full rules packet (WITH DISCONNECT PROCEDURES!) to be posted no later than October 23rd.Players in the top 1,000 on the global ladder (sc2ranks.com) are seeded into separate groups. and the rest of the groups are generated randomly using binary beast.Tournament organizer/head admin: Torenhire(51)LOOKING for interested casters/streamers for this event. This event should be fairly high level, In past DC lan's we've had great players like Gretorp, Orb, Avilo, LastShadow, Devaztayta in attendance.There's always a number of high level players as well as a bunch of well known TL and local community members that attend these events. If you've never been to a lan before this is a great chance to get out and meet members of the local sc2 community! Or to observe some high level sc2 action in person!Previous event thread:Cyberground #1: thread (September 25th)

hooktits Profile Blog Joined February 2008 United States 971 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-17 16:00:27 #2



Edit*

Here is my yoohoo poll glgl

had a sweet time at mlg dc hopefully every one else did too and everyone will sign up

for the lan and make this the most epic lan ever!



Poll: How many yoohoo will hatchetwound drink?



10+ to top last times preformance(8) (10)

59%



Oh NO!! the lan center will be out of yoohoo!!! (4)

24%



None because last time i got sick to the stomach (2)

12%



a modest 2-3 yoohoos (1)

6%



17 total votes (10)59%(4)24%(2)12%(1)6%17 total votes Your vote: How many yoohoo will hatchetwound drink? (Vote): None because last time i got sick to the stomach

(Vote): 10+ to top last times preformance(8)

(Vote): a modest 2-3 yoohoos

(Vote): Oh NO!! the lan center will be out of yoohoo!!!





ill be there! first to reply again!Edit*Here is my yoohoo poll glglhad a sweet time at mlg dc hopefully every one else did too and everyone will sign upfor the lan and make this the most epic lan ever! Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit

LuckyFool Profile Blog Joined June 2007 United States 9009 Posts #3 Sweet! I expect this thread to not get very active till we're done with MLG DC and have our posters up and whatnot.

CheeseGrater Profile Joined August 2010 United States 290 Posts #4 I'll be there again. The owner said he would set up the big screen for people to watch on next time, so that should be really nice. AwesomeI'll be there again. The owner said he would set up the big screen for people to watch on next time, so that should be really nice.

CaucasianAsian Profile Blog Joined September 2005 Korea (South) 11370 Posts #5 i might go. but we should get a side BW tourney going! Calendar @ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark

Craton Profile Blog Joined December 2009 United States 12073 Posts #6 Is orb going to participate (yell a bunch) again? twitch.tv/cratonz

Nokarot Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 1410 Posts #7



I'll go if I have a ride and all that.



+ Show Spoiler + I'm looking at you, Chris. C'mon Craton, no need to be bringing all that up again. Luckyfool said he'd give him a second chance if he decides to come, no need to say such thingsI'll go if I have a ride and all that. beep beep boop

Zlasher Profile Blog Joined February 2010 United States 8345 Posts #8 I'll let you know as we get closer, probably will enter again as an admin not player, spending 10 bucks to update the bracket awwwwww yeah.



will talk to a few ppl about sponsorships and streams and what not ;o Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher

Nokarot Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 1410 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-12 23:37:11 #9



Also I request that, when writing the rules, consider how tiebreakers to move out of the group stage work. My recommended rule is in the spoiler, but whether you agree with it or not, a rule of some regard is necessary. I'm half-butthurt about the way my/sadistx tiebreaker ended in a bo1, but I'm not suggesting this to be an asshole- rather, in case it happens to someone else, a rule is necessary.



+ Show Spoiler + If you have a 2-man tie, you have 3 options.

1) The person who won in their group match between the two players moves on. (kind of boring. One can argue time restraints, but playing a few extra games wont destroy the schedule)

2) Play a BO3 with the previous winner between the two being 1-0 to start. (my favorite, so long as nobody was bought out of a 3-man tie to do it)

3) Play a new BO3 starting at 0-0



You cant play a new BO1, because of Player A beat Player B in groups and Player B wins the tiebreaker, they are technically 1-1. While the same arguement could be made for option #2 if it goes 1-2 (thus "technically" making it 2-2), a new BO3 will still offer a clean slate that is fair for both.



If you have a 3-man tie, tally the points of a players' beaten opponents to decide who beat the better players. Basically, if I beat 4 people, and those 4 people won a collective 3 games, I have 7 points. Someone else in the tie may have beaten 4 people who collectively won 4 games. They would have 8 points and be ahead of me. If at this point two players are tied, see the 2-man tie above. If at this point 3 players are still tied (which isnt impossible given 6-8 player groups), then I think it would call for a small bo1 round robin until someone goes 2-0. This could potentially go on forever, but unless you buy someone soju, there's really no other way. I take it we're going to have to do Bo1 group stages again? D: Given how last LAN ran with the amount of people and time, it's totally understandable, but I wish we could figure another way out.Also I request that, when writing the rules, consider how tiebreakers to move out of the group stage work. My recommended rule is in the spoiler, but whether you agree with it or not, a rule of some regard is necessary. I'm half-butthurt about the way my/sadistx tiebreaker ended in a bo1, but I'm not suggesting this to be an asshole- rather, in case it happens to someone else, a rule is necessary. beep beep boop

Zlasher Profile Blog Joined February 2010 United States 8345 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-12 23:40:48 #10 In many major tournaments, in the event of a 3 way tie for a game like Quake they have all 3 guys round robin it up until someone goes 2-0. Unfortunately last time we just weren't sure of how much time we'd have for group stages, since this LAN had more people than ever before.



I'm guessing that we will think of a way to put this in place, but for example if X>Y>Z>X then we'd either have to go with what we did last time where storr dropped out, and quite frankly the tiebreaker is the tiebreaker, even if your series with sadistx ended 1-1, the plan in place before hand was the tiebreaker, not the season series.



Only problem with round robin for ties is that it could last a really really long time and theres no polite way to put it, but a result needs to come eventually since we only had so many stations for group stages.



I know of one certain rule that will be put in place in the event of a battle.net drop like last time. This is probably one that we'll have to look over also.



default is that in the event of a two man tie, tie goes to the head to head, but thats not really up for argument, thats just how it'll go, but its the case of a three way tie where time gets to be an issue, and playing 3/6/9+ more BO3's is not an option. Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher

Torenhire Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 11627 Posts #11 Will do my best to be there. Sign me up :D SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.

Nokarot Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 1410 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-13 00:03:04 #12 I didn't mean that 3-man round robins should be Bo3's. Those should be Bo1, of course. In the case of a never-ending round robin, a decision would eventually have to be made, obviously, but that's not what I'm concerned about.



If its a 2-man tie, playing additional games adds predictable amount of time time that can be squeezed in to fit the schedule. You can safely assume that a bo3 won't go longer than 45 minutes. Chances are, games from another group will still be going on, anyway. Me/sadistx still had 40 minutes before brackets were supposed to start when our bo1 tiebreaker ended. There's the possibility that it could go longer, but you're much less of a risk than you would running a 3-man round robin of BO1s.



Its not fun to be the player who has to play a bo1 because people are afraid there won't be enough time. If you can fit a 3-man bo1 round robin in to the schedule/rules, you can fit a 2-man Bo3. A bo3 can go between 2-3 games, a 3-man bo1 will go 3+ games. If you can sign off on playing 3-man RR Bo1 then there's no reason to make 2-man be a bo1.



Kind of confusing myself with all these abbreviations and crap but hopefully someone gets what I'm saying. I just don't want to be eliminated on a single bo1 in a 2-man tie, that's all. beep beep boop

LuckyFool Profile Blog Joined June 2007 United States 9009 Posts #13 There will at least be a minimum of tiebreakers this time around instead of that head to head stuff we used to break ties last time.



If anyone has suggestions or concerns/recommendations on what to change from last time I'm all for hearing everyone out either here or in PM.

Torenhire Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 11627 Posts #14 On October 13 2010 09:00 LuckyFool wrote:

There will at least be a minimum of tiebreakers this time around instead of that head to head stuff we used to break ties last time.



If anyone has suggestions or concerns/recommendations on what to change from last time I'm all for hearing everyone out either here or in PM.



I thought we were evil dictators...damn. No my way or the highway stuff? This tournament is lame. Screw you Rob. You ruined my evil plans of SC2 domination. You will never achieve anything in life! You must not give in to the soft and useless cries of pain and suffering from those lesser mortals below us!!!







Mind if I'm in charge of the tournament again?







I promise I won't be an evil dictator.









Maybe. >> I thought we were evil dictators...damn. No my way or the highway stuff? This tournament is lame. Screw you Rob. You ruined my evil plans of SC2 domination. You will never achieve anything in life! You must not give in to the soft and useless cries of pain and suffering from those lesser mortals below us!!!Mind if I'm in charge of the tournament again?I promise I won't be an evil dictator.Maybe. >> SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.

LuckyFool Profile Blog Joined June 2007 United States 9009 Posts #15



If you want to be an evil dictator go for it, it's impossible for me, I'm too nice. ya u are of course in charge of the tournament torenhire. u did awesome last time.If you want to be an evil dictator go for it, it's impossible for me, I'm too nice.

Torenhire Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 11627 Posts Last Edited: 2010-10-13 23:17:20 #16



You've known me how long now? Name one time you've seen me be rude or mean to anyone.



We need to find us an evil coordinator. So we can have at least SOME evil on our side. Hooktits, I'm lookin at you, man.



Edit: BTW. Everyone go bother Siraz to cast for us again. :D HAH.You've known me how long now? Name one time you've seen me be rude or mean to anyone.We need to find us an evil coordinator. So we can have at least SOME evil on our side. Hooktits, I'm lookin at you, man.Edit: BTW. Everyone go bother Siraz to cast for us again. :D SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.

Zlasher Profile Blog Joined February 2010 United States 8345 Posts #17 Might ask iccup.diamond to get iccup to stream it actually ;o Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher

Torenhire Profile Blog Joined April 2009 United States 11627 Posts #18 On October 14 2010 08:32 ZlaSHeR wrote:

Might ask iccup.diamond to get iccup to stream it actually ;o



OR you just do it CaucasianAsian style and have him COME TO the LAN. :D OR you just do it CaucasianAsian style and have him COME TO the LAN. :D SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.

MorningMusume11 Profile Blog Joined November 2007 United States 3490 Posts #19



But I'll handle prizes and be your accountant of sorts again Maybe this time I'll have a camera that works?But I'll handle prizes and be your accountant of sorts again

Sadistx Profile Blog Joined February 2009 Zimbabwe 5497 Posts #20 Signing up/confirming. How can I miss this ^_^



Cyberground lans ftw.

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