When we last heard from Gary Johnson, he was getting tongue-tied over Aleppo. But in another interview this week with MSNBC, he stuck his tongue out to prove that he should be on the presidential debate stage.

In a sit-down with MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt, the libertarian candidate said he could catch Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the polls just by appearing on the debate stage, regardless of the content of his answers.

“It wouldn’t have anything to do with my debate performance, either,” Johnson said. “It would just be that people would realize there’s another choice.”

To underscore his point, Johnson continued on with his tongue out: “I think I could stand up there for the whole debate and not say anything.”

The Libertarian candidate and Jill Stein, the Green Party nominee, both failed to qualify for the first debate on Monday. Johnson, who was polling around 9 percent, fell short of the 15 percent national threshold.

Here’s a clip of the interview via MSNBC: