Giuliani: 'I saved a lot more black lives than Black Lives Matter'

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Monday fiercely defended his remarks the previous day in which he laid out the possible solutions to the United States' racial divides.

During an interview with CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday, Giuliani remarked that African-American parents should "teach your children to be respectful to the police, and you've got to teach your children that the real danger to them is not the police."


"I believe I saved a lot more black lives than Black Lives Matter. I don't see what Black Lives Matter is doing for blacks other than isolating them," Giuliani said Monday on "Fox & Friends." "All it cares about is the police shooting of blacks. It doesn't care about the 90 percent of blacks that have been killed by other blacks. That's just a simple fact. That is a simple fact."

Giuliani then noted that "82 percent of the whites are killed by other whites," adding that "if you want to care about white lives matter, you have to worry about whites."

Alluding to his former life as a prosecutor, Giuliani mused that when he "was searching for the Mafia, I wasn't looking for black guys."

"When I was searching for Colombian drug dealers, I wasn't looking for black guys. When they told me it’s one of Nicky Barnes' crew, or it’s one of Frank James’ crew, then I started searching for black guys," he said, referring to two of the city's notorious drug dealers in the 1980s. "That's what proper profiling is about."

Turning to President Barack Obama's response to the Dallas police massacre, which followed two separate fatal police shootings of black men in Louisiana and Minnesota last week, Giuliani remarked upon the evidence of the case that has pointed to a clear motive.

"If you can't untangle the motives of man who explained the motives on tape there's something wrong with you," Giuliani said. "He explained his motives. I was a prosecutor. Sometimes it's hard to prove motive. When somebody tells me on tape why they committed a murder I now know why. Here's why he committed the murder. He told the negotiator this. He wanted to kill white people, he wanted to kill white cops and he was sympathetic to Black Lives Matter. That’s what he said. Three things; Black Lives Matter, kill white police, kill white people."

"Those are his motives. We got to face that. We get some white supremacist that wants to kill black people that’s his motive, we’ve got to face that," Giuliani continued. "And you’d be sure as heck if that was the case, that that’d be all over the newspapers and there’d no question about motivation."

Discussing the recent death of his former deputy mayor, Peter Powers, Giuliani recalled the work both of them accomplished at City Hall, particularly with respect to decreasing crime rates.

"When I would move police from white neighborhoods to black neighborhoods, the white neighborhoods would get angry at me. And they would say why would you moving them to the black neighborhoods? I was doing that to save black children. That's why I was doing it," Giuliani explained.

In the neighborhood of Bedford Stuyvesant, the former mayor recalled, "they were slaughtering black children and black young men and we cut that by 65 percent, so don't tell me I don't care about black lives."

"I had an uncle who died in the line of duty. I had uncles who went out every night and tried to protect black and white people and all people. A lot of the protection in this city of New York is for black people because 70 percent of the murders in New York City are black," he concluded. "And so, that has to be that way."