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The Young Turks co-host Ana Kasparian called out The View‘s Meghan McCain, claiming that McCain’s public statements about abortion being “murder” are in contradiction with things she told Kasparian in private.

On Tuesday’s edition of The Young Turks, Kasparian and TYT founder Cenk Uygur discussed McCain’s latest comments about abortion, in which she claimed that abortion is akin to “allowing murder in the United States of America,” and that “science” proves that life begins at conception.

During the lengthy segment devoted to debunking those claims, Kasparian claimed that in private conversations, McCain told her a different set of beliefs.

“I have a quick message for Meghan,” Kasparian said. “Look, I just wish that you were honest about your real views on abortion.”

“Because her public statements about abortion are very different from her private statements about abortion,” she continued. “So, I’m just putting that out there, because I think it’s important for you to be honest, because women’s lives and livelihood is really being jeopardized here by you trying to win political brownie points by conservatives by saying things that you don’t actually believe.”

“Wow,” a surprised Uygur said.

“I know, shots fired, but I think it’s important to call out people’s dishonesty,” Kasparian said.

Later in the show, Uygur clarified that “apparently they had a private conversation where she did not share similar points of view about this,” to which Kasparian replied “Correct.”

Meghan McCain has become increasingly conservative on the issue of abortion rights, even repeating the lie that Democrats support “infanticide,” but it wasn’t always like that.

During the Obama years, at the start of McCain’s career as a pundit, she presented herself as a culturally moderate conservative who supported marriage equality, and who said “I personally am pro-life, but I’m not going to judge someone that’s pro-choice. It is not my place to judge other people and what they do with their body.”

And while McCain is now defending the strident abortion laws in states like Georgia, as recently as 2012 she spoke out against forced ultrasound laws and “personhood,” telling Rachel Maddow that “It’s scary as a woman. I’m a young, single woman and I – the idea of this regressing back in the 1950s, and entering Pleasantville is quite daunting.”

Watch the full segment above, via TYT Network.

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