injurai said: I'm trying to figure out what you mean by this. There should certainly be an incentive to contribute labor that has value to society. What is the psychological problem in regards to all of this? Click to expand...

xbhaskarx said:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite



Damn you capitalism, if only we could go back to the glory days of subsistence farming! Really, the "problem" of automation? Do you oppose the printing press, cotton gin, tractors, sewing machines / looms, and computers as well?Damn you capitalism, if only we could go back to the glory days of subsistence farming! Click to expand...

Mr_Moogle said: I get how automation is good for business but I can't see why government would support it. They are the ones who have to create new jobs to replace the old ones. Click to expand...

We say onework. This is the whole problem.It's like this: that claim is a double-bind. Oneassimilate, but it's only acceptable if you do it by will or choice. That inference of necessity creates a situation where you, by all accounts, must be a "Have" or else you get fucked. That impositionthe "Have Not", which are those who lack jobs, lack money we linked to jobs, and intentionally suffer in our society. This is becoming to be a more and more insoluble proposition, for we're now at an age where machines doing human tasks is not an if, but a when. This will only assure people become Have Nots.The reason this is a psychological problem is how we look at money as objective wealth and that onelabor in order to get it. You know, that whole "you're worth what you work" nonsense. Education is now a net-negative to automation, so you can't tell people to aim higher and attain more any longer. A solution is, quite honestly, an assured income to citizens. This is a psychological problem because the way we think about money and its distribution channels has to be totally replaced, or we risk a depression. People still think giving money to people will only promote laziness, and this mental hurdle has to be beaten out of people so they can come to reality, and we can move on from all of this.Look up my thread history. You'll see I'm only highlighting it as a problem because we're allowing it to become a problem and disrupt people at incredible rates, and are not changing our attitudes about anything. Particularly, changing our attitude on the necessity and forcing of labor.This is still running on the status quo that human beingswork. That is exactly the problem here. It should be a mandate, but a desire. The mandating it is why all of this is the problem in the first place, for we will suffer by better methods of production.