Carnivorous Sheep Profile Joined November 2008 Baa? 6740 Posts May 12 2015 04:35 GMT #1 Coach/Analyst Aaron







How did you prepare beforehand, including for today’s cheese strat?



We actually prepared a lot of strategies, including Nautilus jungle as well as today’s Evelynn strat.



What was your winrate with this strat in the past?



We won every time.



Who did you scrim with?



With GE Tigers. We didn’t use it against any domestic teams.



Is the Nautilus strat related to the Morgana strat?



No, the Morgana is just to deal with the Leblanc.



After you saw the two picks [T/N: I believe he means LB/Nunu], how did you feel?



Feel like we won! I feel like the Korean teams have lost their wits, and the Korean imports said “SKT no head!”



But in the last game there were no clear advantages in the early game, and Faker even hit level 2 before Morgana?



That’s all very typical, we were confident.



Who do you think performed the best this tournament?



I think the three Chinese players were all great!



How do you evaluate the novice Meiko?



Meiko was added to the roster at the last moment of the transfer season. I insisted on bringing him into the team. His champ pool is very wide, and he’s young, with sharp and lively thinking. He’s different from Fzzf. He’s not a support who’s content to be just a support. I think he will at the very least become on par with Mata, similarly strong, with sharp thinking, and is not afraid to speak out. He doesn’t treat himself like a novice, he’s willing to speak up, and willing to take on responsibility, all he’s lacking is some experience.



Talk about this championship, what does it mean to you?



The feeling is very simple, it’s another world championship.



Very few people noticed that other than Clearlove, you are also someone who has two world championships. Thoughts on these two wins? [T/N: Chinese fans typically consider IPL 5 a tournament on par with World’s]



The first championship was when LoL was relatively new, and I feel like the professionalism and competitiveness weren’t at the same level. This time, I feel like the pick/ban mindgames surpassed all previous tournaments. Every team’s strategies, treatments of details, overall plans, when compared to two years ago…it’s a completely different game. Also the first win was taken before Korea completely conquered LoL, but now that Korea has ruled LoL for so long, to win another championship, I feel it’s worth even more.



After you left WE, you were surrounded in controversy, do you feel like you’ve proved yourself with this win?



To be honest, when leaving WE, there was a lot of helplessness and regret. And with all the events after I left WE, I felt pretty hurt. But saying anything is meaningless now, the entire point of a coach is to get results. To be honest it’s the same as managing a team. You can commercialize, but you can’t forego the most basic thing, results, in the pursuit of commercialization.



The Korean teams have very good macromanagement, how should the Chinese teams learn from them in this regard?



Yes, we need to improve macromangement. For this MSI, I kept emphasizing that we shouldn’t focus on getting kills, we need to get good wards, get good vision, push towers, get dragons, and prioritize maximizing resources. Chinese servers have a habit of “just fight,” but we can’t be so brutish in international competitions. I hope the media, casters, the server as a whole including LPL, can all start casting and approaching the game from a more professional, macro-oriented angle, and not focus solely on teamfights and kills. When the entire LPL shifts its style from favoring fights to favoring macroing, then we’ll be able to close the gap with Korean macro.



How did you guys practice macro in scrims?



I think we actually macroed pretty well this season. We practice macro separately from teamfighting, against different teams. It’s a pretty interesting new training method.



EDG also exposed of its own strategies and problems, and everyone will likely have counters prepared for S5. How should EDG respond?



To be honest a lot of teams played poorly this MSI. There were many mistakes and teams didn't feel as strong as in scrims. I think maybe it’s because of nerves from a big tournament or jet lag, so there were a lot of mistakes. Every team played too aggressively. As to exposing problems, I think we just need to solve our own problems. They can try to counter, but we can also improve, so their counters will be all for naught. Most importantly we need to find our own direction of improvement.



A lot of people say Korea is weaker now, do you feel that way after this MSI?



Korean teams are still very strong. CJ, GET, and SKT are all very strong, and aren’t worse than Chinese teams. Even though there was a mass Korean migration to China, their overall strategy and model has yet to be fully incorporated into LPL. The Korean leagues still have their macromanagement style, and their teams are still strong. So I hope the media and the casters can help popularize macro in the LPL summer split, instead of tunnel visioning on “teamfights, kills.” A lot of players don’t really understand how to watch for macro play, so we need casters and the media more than ever to educate people on what macro is, how to do it, and why to do it, instead of just going for kills.



Do you think this MSI marks the end of Korean dominance?



I hope it’s the end of Korean dominance. But I feel like when S5 comes around, China-Korea will still be only 50-50. Maybe the matches will continue going to game 5. I think what happens in the first twenty minutes of the games could determine who takes home the win.



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How are you feeling after winning?



Immediately after winning, it was an incomparable feeling of excitement. Now I’m very calm.



As a behind-the-scenes staff member, what does this win mean for you?



I’m just representing every behind-the-scene staff member on EDG. This victory was achieved with the efforts of everyone on the team. For example, 冰柜 [T/N note: one of EDG’s co-founders, currently a hybrid coach/manager role] is still in the hospital in Shanghai right now. The team’s formation and overall strategic focus were all his brainchild, we’re just living in his shadow.



What about the players made the biggest impression on you during this trip to America?



Their thirst for the championship, and the heart of a champion. Their desire to continuously create new peaks for themselves, and to overcome one difficult hurdle after another.



How is Pawn’s health right now?



He’s still recovering, there will be some more therapy after we return.



The team won MSI but didn’t seem too happy, are you guys setting your sights on S5?



Yes. Our goal has always been clear, and that is to win a World’s.



Any plans after you return to China?



No time for rest, we’ll have to do interviews and also get back to training, and to prepare for the upcoming summer split.



Say something on behalf of EDG to all the Chinese fans!



Thanks to everyone for supporting us! We finally did it! But this is just the beginning and not the end!



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+ Show Spoiler + EDG教练阿布：解读EDG惊天大招



夺冠后EDG的队员们接受采访，而阿布则在后面默默的听着。作为队伍的功勋教练，很少有人知道他为队伍做出的付出——当比赛进行到第五局，EDG的大招就出自阿布之手。在赛后，电子竞技杂志找到了阿布进行了专访，要知道，在IPL5夺冠直至今日，历经非议的他如今也是获得了第二个冠军。



EDG经理及教练采访：最后一局SKT没脑子



大招一出必杀不解释



问：今天这个大招，之前都是怎么准备的？



答：其实我们准备了很多，包括泰坦打野，还有这一套伊芙琳的。



问：之前用这个套系练的胜率情况怎么样？



答：都赢了。（和谁练的？）和虎牙GEtiger，和国内战队还没打过这个。



问：那莫甘娜的体系和泰坦打野这个是一套的吗？



答：不是一套，莫甘娜就是为了对付妖姬的。



问：当你看到这两个人选出来的时候，你是什么感觉？



答：感觉赢了！我们当时觉得韩国队已经没有脑袋了，韩援选手还在那说“SKT no head！”



问：但最后一局开局并没有明显优势，包括faker甚至比莫甘娜先到2级？



答：这都很正常，我们都很有信心。



问：这次系列赛，你认为谁的表现最好？



答：我认为，三位中国选手都特别棒！



问：对于新人meiko你怎么评价？



答：meiko的引进是在转会期的最后一刻，我坚持让俱乐部引进的他。这位选手英雄池非常广，而且很年轻，思维特别活跃。他不同于卷毛，他绝对不是一个甘于做辅助的辅助选手。我认为，他至少会成为一个和Mata同级的辅助，一样的要强，思维灵活，敢说话。他不认为自己是个新人，敢于说话，敢于承担，缺的只是一些经验。



他也是拿过两次世界冠军的人



问：说一说这个冠军，对你来说意味着什么？



答：感觉就很简单，又拿了一个世界冠军。



问：很少有人注意到，除了厂长之外，你也是拿了第二个世界冠军的国人。对这两个世界冠军，有什么感想？



答：第一个冠军，当时LOL出来还没多久，感觉专业度包括竞争程度都比不上这一次。像这一次我觉得，BP上的博弈要高于以前一切比赛。还有各队的战术打法，细节处理，套路，和两年前比……已经不是同一款游戏了。之前那个冠军是抢在韩国人统治LOL之前拿的，现在韩国人统治LOL这么久了，再拿到这个冠军，感觉分量更足。



问：从WE走之后，你受到了不少非议，你觉得这次冠军算不算是证明了自己？



答：其实离开WE，有很多无奈和不舍。但是离开WE之后的事情，我觉得自己挺受伤的。不过现在说什么都没有意义了，当教练的意义就是拿成绩。其实做俱乐部一样，你可以做商业化，但不能因为商业化而把最根本的成绩丢掉。



战胜韩国不等于超越了韩国



问：韩国队伍的运营非常好，在这方面中国战队应该如何借鉴他们？



答：是，我们需要加强运营。本次MSI，我就一直在强调，不要完全执着于杀人，要给好眼位，做好视野，推塔，拿龙，以资源为主。国服有个习惯“就是干”，在国际比赛中不能这么莽夫。我希望媒体、解说、国服包括LPL，都能从专业的运营的角度去解说比赛，而不是一直把目光放在战斗、人头上。当整个LPL的风气从偏打架转向偏运营了，我们跟韩国队伍的运营差距才会缩小。



问：你们训练中是如何抓运营的？



答：其实本赛季我们的运营做得还不错。我们把运营跟打架是分开训练的，都是跟不同队伍训练。这种新的训练模式很有趣。



问：EDG这次也暴露了自己的战术和问题，S5期间大家肯定会有针对，你觉得EDG会如何应对呢？



答：这次MSI其实所有队伍都打的不好，失误太多，感觉和训练赛的强度不一样。可能是因为大赛紧张或者时差的原因，失误比较多，每个队伍都打的很上头。至于说暴露了问题，我们自己解决问题就行了。他们可以针对，我们可以改进，那他们研究的针对就白研究了。最重要的是，我们要找到自己前进的方向。



问：很多人说韩国队伍现在不行了，你通过这次MSI觉得是这样了吗？



答：韩国队伍依然强力。CJ虎牙和SKT依然很强，和国内队伍相比也不会差。今年虽然韩国选手大举进入中国，但他们的那种战术模式还没有完全融入LPL，韩国人自己的联赛大的运营模式还在，他们的队伍也依然强力。所以我希望包括媒体和解说也要多帮忙，帮助LPL夏季赛带来更好的运营潮流，而不要一味盯住“打架杀人”。（很多玩家都看不懂运营是什么）那么就更应该、更需要解说、媒体告诉大家，何为运营，怎么运营，而不光是杀人。



问：说到韩国统治，你觉得这次MSI是韩国统治的终点吗？



答：我希望这是韩国统治的终点。但我觉得，到S5决赛，可能中韩战队依然是个五五开吧。也许比赛会继续打到第五局，比赛前二十分钟的博弈可能会决定冠军的归属。



EDG经理及教练采访：最后一局SKT没脑子



EDG经理三少：队员对冠军的渴望，冠军的心让我很感动。



EDG经理及教练采访：最后一局SKT没脑子



问：夺冠后，现在心情怎么样？



答：刚刚获得冠军的一瞬间，有点无与伦比的激动，此刻心情很平静。



问：作为幕后人员，这个冠军对于你来说意味着什么？



答：我是代表了EDG所有在幕后的工作人员，这个冠军是俱乐部上上下下所有人共同努力拿到的。像我们搭档：冰柜，现在还在上海住院，包括队伍的人员搭建，运营思路都是他的智慧，我只是他们的一个缩影。



问：从EDG到美国这一段时间，队员们给你最大的感受是什么？



答：他们对冠军的渴望，冠军的心。想去不断创造自己的巅峰，跨越一个个难关的心。



问：Pawn的身体，现在情况如何？



答：还在恢复期。回去后还有一个后续治疗的过程。



问：获得了MSI冠军，但队伍并没有特别高兴，你们是否把目光投向了S5？



答：是。我们的目标一致很清晰，就是获得S系列的总冠军。



问：回国后接下来有什么安排呢？



答：没有时间休息，回去肯定是接受采访和训练，然后准备即将到来的夏季赛。



问：最后代表EDG向广大中国粉丝说两句话吧！



答：谢谢广大玩家的支持！我们终于做到了！但这只是开始而不是结束！ How did you prepare beforehand, including for today’s cheese strat?What was your winrate with this strat in the past?Who did you scrim with?Is the Nautilus strat related to the Morgana strat?After you saw the two picks [T/N: I believe he means LB/Nunu], how did you feel?But in the last game there were no clear advantages in the early game, and Faker even hit level 2 before Morgana?Who do you think performed the best this tournament?How do you evaluate the novice Meiko?Talk about this championship, what does it mean to you?Very few people noticed that other than Clearlove, you are also someone who has two world championships. Thoughts on these two wins? [T/N: Chinese fans typically consider IPL 5 a tournament on par with World’s]After you left WE, you were surrounded in controversy, do you feel like you’ve proved yourself with this win?The Korean teams have very good macromanagement, how should the Chinese teams learn from them in this regard?How did you guys practice macro in scrims?EDG also exposed of its own strategies and problems, and everyone will likely have counters prepared for S5. How should EDG respond?A lot of people say Korea is weaker now, do you feel that way after this MSI?Do you think this MSI marks the end of Korean dominance?How are you feeling after winning?As a behind-the-scenes staff member, what does this win mean for you?What about the players made the biggest impression on you during this trip to America?How is Pawn’s health right now?The team won MSI but didn’t seem too happy, are you guys setting your sights on S5?Any plans after you return to China?Say something on behalf of EDG to all the Chinese fans! Moderator Baa!