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“I did things that were much worse than drinking or drug use. We were destructive.”

While in Australia for Rise Against’s seven-date headline tour in February, frontman Tim McIlrath sat down with Tone Deaf in Sydney to chat about the light and dark of music, the Chicago band’s latest LP Wolves, Trump and his wayward teenage years.

Check out the interview with Rise Against’s Tim McIlrath below:

Rise Against were in Australia in support of their eighth LP Wolves. Stream the record below: