The whole point of the video was to say gender identity is not the same as gender expression. That just because trans men and butch lesbians might look similar, they are still different. And they went off on me for even comparing them, and I was like—“I’m comparing to show how different you are!”

Let’s talk about your viral video, “Why I’m Leaving the Left.” I saw that you made it after Sydney Mardi Gras cancelled your event.

Yeah, I was in Sydney a few weeks ago. The cancellation happened right before I put the video out, and it just made me want to publish it even more. I was like, “This is my last straw, I’m so glad that I'm posting this.”

Why was your event cancelled?

My understanding is that some people were going to throw a tantrum [if my event didn’t get cancelled.] So they took my event off their official page. They were like, “We just want peace at Mardi Gras, so if this person’s pissing off other people we’re going to get rid of her.” They didn’t even look into the situation.

It was literally the only fully lesbian event at Mardi Gras. I just wanted to talk about lesbian issues. And somehow I’m the one who’s bigoted.

So you put up the video, which went viral on Twitter and Youtube. What happened then?

I actually got nothing but praise from my viewers. From the far left, from the people that hated me already, I didn’t really see anything. And I think it's because I had so much support on the video. I had like 6 or 7 celebrities follow me after that video. I thought that I was gonna get even more bullied and it just didn't happen.

Which is really interesting, but it makes sense, right? Bullies are bullies. When they see people standing behind you, the bullies aren’t going to come out.

I think there’s a lot of people who agree with you but are just afraid to say it.

Exactly. It's important for me to be a voice for people that are still afraid to speak. That’s more important than anything.

When the video came out, you said you were a bit concerned for your future. Were there any repercussions to posting the video?

That’s crazy, right? I shouldn’t have to worry about coming out as a free speech advocate. I was worried about brand deals, but I think I’m okay. All the companies that have worked with me in the past are just happy I’m making sex-positive content.

I don’t think my business will change as much as I thought it would. It’s just the super hardcore leftists who already didn’t like me, don’t like me even more. And I wasn’t going to change their opinion of me anyway, so why was I even trying at that point?

I only stopped working with one company. When the video came out, [its founder] was basically like, “I understand why you posted it. I understand that it’s sexist how people treat lesbians, but you can’t you play nice?”



At that point I said, “No, I can't play nice because female rights are being taken away. And the word “woman” is being changed. How do you not see how that affects women?”

Let’s talk about that. How are lesbians treated in the LGBTQ movement?

Lesbians are taken the least seriously out of every sexual orientation. If you go and tell someone that you’re lesbian, most of the time they’ll be like—“Oh, you’re bisexual?” Literally every time. But If a guy tells you he’s gay, you don't say, “Oh, do you date women?”

I think there's a number of reasons for that. One of them is because of the way lesbians are perpetuated in porn. I don’t think lesbian porn is a bad thing—if people enjoy it, good for them. But if somebody tells you they identify as a lesbian, don’t go and change the word.

I would expect that in the “pecking order” of intersectionality, lesbians would be seen “above” gay men. But it seems like gay men have a ton of power in the movement.

They do. Gay men have the most power. I'm grateful that there are quite a few gay men that are starting to speak up for lesbians. And there are also quite a few straight men, which is great.

I think this all started when trans activists—and that doesn’t mean trans people, let’s make that clear. Trans activists is an umbrella term: people that are all about “gender and not sex,” regardless of their actual gender.

The trans activists started coming for gay men, then they started coming for straight people, so it was just a matter of time before they came for us. They said things like “If you’re a lesbian, you should be attracted to all women. If a trans woman is a woman, you should be attracted to her.”

And it’s like, “No, we’re not attracted to all women.”

If you want to call yourself straight and have sex with trans women—I don’t care! People misunderstand my stance on that. I don't care how you identify, as long as you’re not forcing your definition on me. That’s the problem I have. Because you’re changing a word and saying I have to live by your new definition.

Can we talk a little bit about the changing definition of the word “woman?”

Yes. I saw something posted the other day that “Women are limitless and formless.” And it’s like—“Thanks for saying that! How are we supposed to protect something that’s limitless and formless and a void?”

I know it’s meant to be seen as a good thing, but it’s not. You can’t protect something that doesn’t have a definition. Women have different needs. Trans women have different needs. Men have different needs.

Do you identify as a conservative?

I took two political stance tests. I got libertarian on both of them.

I’m very open and very liberal socially. “Live and let live.” But I also think that people need to pay their taxes and work. I’ve seen people abuse welfare and I’ve seen veterans get pushed onto the street. I don’t think trans women belong in female sports all the time, and I don’t think they belong in women’s prisons if they’re rapists. I have some conservative views but it’s not an overall mindset. I’m in the middle.