storywriter Profile Joined February 2011 Australia 527 Posts Last Edited: 2012-03-30 00:48:34 #1 Match Fixing Savior starts paid lessons



Ex-progamer Savior who was permanently banned for participating in match fixing is starting Starcraft lessons.



Savoir revealed on his personal Afreeca page on the 27th that he was starting paid Starcraft lessons. The lessons will be streamed on the internet according to the customer's request and will have Savior himself playing and commentating.



The fee is 30000 Won (~$25USD) per 1.5 hours and the lesson will be given to groups of 2. There is a condition that you must pay for at least 3 lessons so the minimum fee required is 90000 Won (~$75USD). The post states that 'Users who record the lessons and shares them will be added to the blacklist' to prevent users who try to obtain free lessons.



Most people who heard about the news are reacting negatively. There were comments on the forum such as 'if you have a conscience, don't try to make money off of Starcraft' and 'Jo, Kyu Nam coach (Savior's ex-coach) is watching'.



On the other hands, some say that they cannot wait for Savior's lessons. Savior's paid lessons start on the 2nd of April and by today, the 29th, no one has yet applied.



Savior who participated in match fixing in Starcraft was banned permanently by the Korean-eSports association on the 7th of June 2010 and was sentenced to 1 year imprisonment, 2 years probation on the 22nd of October 2010. His probation ends on the 22nd of June this year.



Savior, banned from progaming, started an internet stream in March last year and even obtained a personal sponsor in November. Since then, as criticisms began to surface on his Afreeca page and in the chat, starting January this year, only those who pay a fee to join his fanclub are allowed to post on the forum.







Picture of the paid lessons notice posted by Savior himself



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edit: to the people saying that the title needs to be changed, I just want to put it out there that I simply translated the title of the Korean article. If the mods still feel the need to change, I guess it can't be helped. I just wanted people to know that I didn't come up with the title or any of the sentiment expressed in the article. Ex-progamer Savior who was permanently banned for participating in match fixing is starting Starcraft lessons.Savoir revealed on his personal Afreeca page on the 27th that he was starting paid Starcraft lessons. The lessons will be streamed on the internet according to the customer's request and will have Savior himself playing and commentating.The fee is 30000 Won (~$25USD) per 1.5 hours and the lesson will be given to groups of 2. There is a condition that you must pay for at least 3 lessons so the minimum fee required is 90000 Won (~$75USD). The post states that 'Users who record the lessons and shares them will be added to the blacklist' to prevent users who try to obtain free lessons.Most people who heard about the news are reacting negatively. There were comments on the forum such as 'if you have a conscience, don't try to make money off of Starcraft' and 'Jo, Kyu Nam coach (Savior's ex-coach) is watching'.On the other hands, some say that they cannot wait for Savior's lessons. Savior's paid lessons start on the 2nd of April and by today, the 29th, no one has yet applied.Savior who participated in match fixing in Starcraft was banned permanently by the Korean-eSports association on the 7th of June 2010 and was sentenced to 1 year imprisonment, 2 years probation on the 22nd of October 2010. His probation ends on the 22nd of June this year.Savior, banned from progaming, started an internet stream in March last year and even obtained a personal sponsor in November. Since then, as criticisms began to surface on his Afreeca page and in the chat, starting January this year, only those who pay a fee to join his fanclub are allowed to post on the forum.Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1138721&board=&category=13438&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token= edit: to the people saying that the title needs to be changed, I just want to put it out there that I simply translated the title of the Korean article. If the mods still feel the need to change, I guess it can't be helped. I just wanted people to know that I didn't come up with the title or any of the sentiment expressed in the article. Translator

Firebolt145 Profile Blog Joined May 2010 Lalalaland 21567 Posts #2 Hmm. I'm not surprised about the negative reaction, but I'm pretty sure he'll get a few customers just because of who he is. Moderator

BisuDagger Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Bisutopia 17630 Posts #3 It's so hard to know how one should react when it comes to Savior news, but I'm not surprised no one has signed up yet. Moderator Ofiicial Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48897 Posts Last Edited: 2012-03-29 14:12:10 #4 30k won is quite a lot (compared to the other afreeca bjs)

players like eagle/anytime do it for 10-15k won p/hr iirc.

that being said, you are learning from probably the greatest strategic zerg ever to play bw.



welp at least it's cheaper than idra. Commentator Twitter: @GTR1H

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[sc1f]eonzerg Profile Blog Joined February 2010 Belgium 5930 Posts #5 i bet he gonna get more students than haters. He is most great player ever

CursOr Profile Blog Joined January 2009 United States 6320 Posts #6 To bad about what sAviOr did. But, I still loved watching the guy play. Still my favorite player of all time.



I do agree, more with the side, that he shouldn't be trying to make money off of Starcraft. The timing of the release of what he did couldn't have been worse, and was a huge blow to the esports scene. BUT- I also understand that he is doing this. He obviously loves the game, and wants to make money doing what he is good at.



Everyone makes mistakes, and all that kinna stuff, but it would be more respectable for him, imo, to just bow out of the scene as gracefully as possible at this point. CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)

valaki Profile Joined June 2009 Hungary 2377 Posts #7 35$ for 1.5 hours? F tier SC2 semi-semi-pros tend to ask for more. I think it's a reasonable price. ggaemo fan

Black and Proud Profile Joined March 2012 49 Posts #8 On March 29 2012 23:06 GTR wrote:

30k won is quite a lot.

players like eagle/anytime do it for 10-15k won p/hr iirc.



welp at least it's cheaper than idra.



Anytime - isn't he still playing in proleague and shit? Mind you I haven't watched BW for almost a year so maybe I'm behind the times.



Seriously, a man's got to eat when a man's got to eat. Just think of all the stars that have been shamed... If I followed pop culture more often I'd probably know who to list... But all those stars that have affairs and shit - you think their fans are gonna give a shit? No, they'd still fork out money to meet their stars. Heck, I'd pay $35 to meet Savior for one and a half hours, even if it's not to take lessons, but to talk about old SC days. Anytime - isn't he still playing in proleague and shit? Mind you I haven't watched BW for almost a year so maybe I'm behind the times.Seriously, a man's got to eat when a man's got to eat. Just think of all the stars that have been shamed... If I followed pop culture more often I'd probably know who to list... But all those stars that have affairs and shit - you think their fans are gonna give a shit? No, they'd still fork out money to meet their stars. Heck, I'd pay $35 to meet Savior for one and a half hours, even if it's not to take lessons, but to talk about old SC days.

a9arnn Profile Blog Joined July 2009 United States 1533 Posts Last Edited: 2012-03-29 14:36:46 #9 Wow, despite what he did, he's still one of the smartest out there :O.



I'm sure there's gonna be people that sign up, $ 35 25 seems like a fine really cheap price for such a legend teaching you. Can't believe he's still squeezing out money from all his fans though, he should just move on ;;



Edit: I kinda wish I knew Korean, I mean it's sAviOr, and it's only $ 35 25, no name people in SC2 frequently ask for more $ than this O.o VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo

OpticalShot Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Canada 6290 Posts #10 Very, very disappointed.



Savior was one of the core group involved in the scandal that triggered a huge crumble of the scene. Although arguable to some degree, his actions resulted in a dozen or so progamers and B-teamers losing their job and their career dreams. Moreover, it was openly admitted in the Adieu MBCGame program that Savior played an integral role in the eventual closing of MBCGame. On one hand, Savior is one hell of a cunning guy - he is still finding ways to milk the money out of the very business he destroyed himself. On the other hand, I can't imagine how much twisted evil thoughts reside in his mind...



I'll take the one positive thing from this news and hopefully remember that one only - there are still fans excited enough about the legendary game of SCBW that they'd pay good money for lessons from a publicly denounced figure. [TLMS] REBOOT

pyrogenetix Profile Blog Joined March 2006 China 5090 Posts #11 Interesting news. I wonder how good Savior really is now that he's been out of the loop for a while, or does he still get practice vs people still in the industry. I'm thinking once you fall out of the circle and the metagame progresses it's difficult to keep up.



How is his apm these days? Has he played any legit players? Does anyone still hang out with him? We need rekrul. Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.

figq Profile Blog Joined May 2010 11851 Posts Last Edited: 2012-03-29 14:25:30 #12 I'm thankful that his deep and unique understanding of the game would not get completely wasted, but hopefully spread to others and memorized. He's not competing, so he's not breaking his ban, I think it's okay to teach others.



Idra won't even look at you for $ 35 25* per 1.5 hours for 2 students. Savior is one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever play.



/* OP corrected 35->25, in fact. Well, for this I doubt Idra would let you even clean his shoes. If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]

Noocta Profile Joined June 2010 France 12095 Posts #13 I'm not sure what to think about that.

I really don't. " I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "

storywriter Profile Joined February 2011 Australia 527 Posts #14 On March 29 2012 23:15 a9arnn wrote:

Wow, despite what he did, he's still one of the smartest out there :O.



I'm sure there's gonna be people that sign up, $35 seems like a fine price such a legend teaching you. Can't believe he's still squeezing out money from all his fans though, he should just move on ;;



Edit: I kinda wish I knew Korean, I mean it's sAviOr, and it's only $35, no name people in SC2 frequently ask for more $ than this O.o

oh crap, I said 35$ for 30000 Won. It's meant to be the other way around, i.e. 25$ for 30000 won. Editing now oh crap, I said 35$ for 30000 Won. It's meant to be the other way around, i.e. 25$ for 30000 won. Editing now Translator

Hesmyrr Profile Blog Joined May 2010 Canada 5592 Posts #15 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Urgh. "If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki

konadora Profile Blog Joined February 2009 Singapore 50092 Posts #16 such a good player, such a terrible person POGGERS

Soleron Profile Blog Joined September 2010 United Kingdom 1324 Posts #17 Is that $25 each, i.e. $50/hr actual cost?

white_horse Profile Joined July 2010 1014 Posts #18 Pay to join his fanclub, pay to follow him, pay to get lessons from him: basically only the nutty and hardcore fans who don't really care about anything else remain. you can't really get any more pathetic than that Translator

konadora Profile Blog Joined February 2009 Singapore 50092 Posts #19 On March 29 2012 23:13 Black and Proud wrote:

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On March 29 2012 23:06 GTR wrote:

30k won is quite a lot.

players like eagle/anytime do it for 10-15k won p/hr iirc.



welp at least it's cheaper than idra.



Anytime - isn't he still playing in proleague and shit? Mind you I haven't watched BW for almost a year so maybe I'm behind the times. Anytime - isn't he still playing in proleague and shit? Mind you I haven't watched BW for almost a year so maybe I'm behind the times.

he was forced to retire after hwaseung disbanded he was forced to retire after hwaseung disbanded POGGERS

QuothTheRaven Profile Joined December 2008 United States 5512 Posts #20 That seems like an incredibly low price. . . . nevermore

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