“I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain. Time to die.”

Roy Batty’s final words at the end of Blade Runner might not be the most famous movie villain monologue—Jack Nicholson’s from A Few Good Men and Orson Welles’ from The Third Man probably beat it out—but it is the most sympathetic.

In the fictional Blade Runner universe, Jan. 8, 2016, marks the birthday incept for this Nexus 6 model replicant, who was played by Rutger Hauer in the groundbreaking 1982 sci-fi film. (Fellow replicants Pris and Leon were born Feb. 14, 2016, and April 10, 2017, respectively, in case you were wondering when you need to send cards.) So near the date of Batty’s biological creation is an apt time to take a look at a recent post in the Movies community: Which movie villain’s motives do you agree with?

Reddit user H4RJ posed that question and used tech billionaire Richmond Valentine’s plan to save the planet by wiping out a good chunk of the human race in Kingsman: The Secret Service to illustrate that idea.

“In Kingsman, Samuel L. Jacksons character wants to reduce the overpopulated world. Just imagine no more traffic or waiting in line!”

Empathy for Batty and his tragic circumstances—a sophisticated clone with a four-year life-span manufactured by humans to serve humans—also ran high in the thread. So what if Batty insisted on using both his thumbs to see how deep his creator’s eye sockets went?

What other bad guys did redditors think were misunderstood? Here are some of their suggestions and the reasons why those cinematic criminals and ne’er do wells might’ve had the right idea after all.

Hannibal Lecter

Magneto in the X-Men Films

The Shark in Jaws

The Machines in The Matrix

Principal Ed Rooney in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off

Syndrome in The Incredibles

Fletcher in Whiplash

Prof. Hinkle in Frosty the Snowman

Technically, this is a TV villain, but we snuck him in because we always thought he got a raw deal, too.