Chuddinater Profile Joined July 2013 Korea (South) 164 Posts Last Edited: 2015-10-14 07:33:55 #1



On behalf of everyone at KeSPA I would like to thank you all for your continued support of StarCraft II Proleague this past season. As we continue to try and improve our league we would love to hear your feedback on the 2015 season.



Please let me know what you liked most about this season or what you wish was improved upon for the next season.



We hope you enjoyed the 2015 season and lets make the 2016 season even better!







edit #1: Thank you for your feedback. I have read over all of your suggestions and we will work on improving next season with your suggestions in mind.



I hope you continue to support StarCraft II Proleague and the Korean StarCraft II scene. Hello StarCraft II fans,On behalf of everyone at KeSPA I would like to thank you all for your continued support of StarCraft II Proleague this past season. As we continue to try and improve our league we would love to hear your feedback on the 2015 season.Please let me know what you liked most about this season or what you wish was improved upon for the next season.We hope you enjoyed the 2015 season and lets make the 2016 season even better!edit #1: Thank you for your feedback. I have read over all of your suggestions and we will work on improving next season with your suggestions in mind.I hope you continue to support StarCraft II Proleague and the Korean StarCraft II scene.

Caihead Profile Blog Joined July 2011 Canada 8519 Posts #2 Format: Consider bringing back Bo7? More diverse match ups and more possibility to show case builds and less prominent players. I also would prefer more rounds but that's mostly a scheduling issue.



Production values: Everything looked good and the quality of the streams were great, except for the red and green squares that were used later on in the year for player map wins that looked horribly out of place.



Player interaction: Please consider better fleshed out segments of player interviews to fill the gap between games, what you have currently is good but just expand on it.



English and other language streams: Consider allowing the players or coaches address the foreign community more directly if possible in interviews and other means, more support for the other language streams if possible. "If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero

padiseal2 Profile Joined August 2012 Austria 714 Posts #3 Bring back 10Q10A please Samsungjackets on twitch || 강민수 화이팅

SC2Angora Profile Joined August 2015 53 Posts #4 I think the grand final of the season should be a huge Bo7 event between the two remaining team and not a single Bo1 to finish the year.

ZAiNs Profile Joined July 2010 United Kingdom 6506 Posts #5 PLEASE bring back the game timer. It really makes proleague, the highest level of SC2 in the world, much worse to watch.

Chuddinater Profile Joined July 2013 Korea (South) 164 Posts #6 On October 12 2015 16:44 ZAiNs wrote:

PLEASE bring back the game timer. It really makes proleague, the highest level of SC2 in the world, much worse to watch.

Unfortunately we removed the game timer to stop some types of e-Sports gambling. Unfortunately we removed the game timer to stop some types of e-Sports gambling.

Shkudde Profile Joined February 2011 Netherlands 693 Posts #7 I loved the League, I just wish you would start using your own maps again.

Seeing crazy stuff like Neo Arkanoid and great maps like King Sejong for the first time made me fall in love with PL in the first place. $O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!

Wrath Profile Blog Joined July 2014 3165 Posts #8



Also I think it should be bigger event than post season 4th and 3rd place. They were BO3 but Finals was BO1...



That is what I could think of for now...



Grand finals could use a bigger stageAlso I think it should be bigger event than post season 4th and 3rd place. They were BO3 but Finals was BO1...That is what I could think of for now...

Wrath Profile Blog Joined July 2014 3165 Posts #9 On October 12 2015 16:51 Shkudde wrote:

I loved the League, I just wish you would start using your own maps again.

Seeing crazy stuff like Neo Arkanoid and great maps like King Sejong for the first time made me fall in love with PL in the first place.



Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!



They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard... Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard...

SetGuitarsToKill Profile Blog Joined December 2013 Canada 28391 Posts #10 On October 12 2015 16:58 WrathSCII wrote:

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On October 12 2015 16:51 Shkudde wrote:

I loved the League, I just wish you would start using your own maps again.

Seeing crazy stuff like Neo Arkanoid and great maps like King Sejong for the first time made me fall in love with PL in the first place.



Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!



They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard... Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard...

Not necessarily made by Proleague, but first adopted and used by it. Proleague has good taste in maps.



Anyway, my only suggestion would be to use all-kill format more. Maybe do two rounds in all-kill format and 2 rounds in proleague format. Or maybe alternate weeks between formats or something. We never get to see all-kill anymore outside of playoffs and it's fun. Not necessarily made by Proleague, but first adopted and used by it. Proleague has good taste in maps.Anyway, my only suggestion would be to use all-kill format more. Maybe do two rounds in all-kill format and 2 rounds in proleague format. Or maybe alternate weeks between formats or something. We never get to see all-kill anymore outside of playoffs and it's fun. Community News "As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill

TheOneAboveU Profile Blog Joined February 2011 Germany 3083 Posts Last Edited: 2015-10-12 08:16:22 #11



Format was great as always (Bo5 or Bo7 , that is up to you ), please keep the Proleague format. Allkill/Winners League in playoffs is okay, but I really prefer the PL-format for the regular rounds. It's more about the team than one star player carrying everything. In PL-format you need at least two.



Production value was great and there was interesting filler content (bring back 10 questions 10 answers maybe? That would be great!). Having english subtitles for filler videos would be great as well of course, it adds a lot of value to the english stream. I like that every player got to choose their own intro music.

One point I'd like to add: please try to use the same, fitting ingame-colours if possible (Jin Air always green, SKT always orange etc.) - of course stuff like red vs. orange has to be averted, but it always bugs me to see SKT in blue or something like that. It just doesn't feel right. :D



A really important point for me: I hope that you consider using self-made maps again - the KeSPA mapping team has such a great history of creating excellent maps and bringing new ideas to the table (hello, King Sejong Station!). Being dependent on Blizzard's vision of how maps should look like is... not so cool, to say the least. First let me thank you and everyone involved in Proleague - it's my favourite StarCraft 2 competition and such a critical part of the scene!Format was great as always (Bo5 or, that is up to you), please keep the Proleague format. Allkill/Winners League in playoffs is okay, but I really prefer the PL-format for the regular rounds. It's more about the team than one star player carrying everything. In PL-format you need at least two.Production value was great and there was interesting filler content (bring back 10 questions 10 answers maybe? That would be great!). Having english subtitles for filler videos would be great as well of course, it adds a lot of value to the english stream. I like that every player got to choose their own intro music.One point I'd like to add: please try to use the same, fitting ingame-colours if possible (Jin Air always green, SKT always orange etc.) - of course stuff like red vs. orange has to be averted, but it always bugs me to see SKT in blue or something like that. It just doesn't feel right. :DA really important point for me: I hope that you consider using self-made maps again - the KeSPA mapping team has such a great history of creating excellent maps and bringing new ideas to the table (hello, King Sejong Station!). Being dependent on Blizzard's vision of how maps should look like is... not so cool, to say the least. Writer alias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!

Dingodile Profile Joined December 2011 4035 Posts #12 On October 12 2015 16:58 WrathSCII wrote:

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On October 12 2015 16:51 Shkudde wrote:

I loved the League, I just wish you would start using your own maps again.

Seeing crazy stuff like Neo Arkanoid and great maps like King Sejong for the first time made me fall in love with PL in the first place.



Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!



They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard... Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard...

You can do whatever you want but if you want WCS points you have to use Blizzard maps. You can do whatever you want but if you want WCS points you have to use Blizzard maps. Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky

Destructicon Profile Blog Joined September 2011 4637 Posts #13 This season of Proleague was great, however I do have a few suggestions.



Like a above user said, I'd love to see Proleague go back to BO7, I think it requires the teams to have more depth, makes for more exciting matches and allows the rookies to see more play time.



I'd also love to see a return of player interviews and team house tours. 2013 was my favorite season partially because of this, we had so, so many interviews with the likes of INnoVation, Flash, JangBi, Shine, sOs, Stork, etc so we got emphasize with our favorite players.



I'd also love some more map experimentation next season. 2013 was, again my favorite season because we had a huge number of cool new maps and the games were very different and, in a lot of ways fun. I'm not saying have as many new maps per round as the 2013 season had, but at least have 1-2 new maps per round. KeSPA map makers are also extremely good, we had gems like Neo Planet S and King Sejong Station make it into the ladder, I'd love to have more of those to play with.



Last but definitely not least, bring back mind time! Writer Never give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC

gdarky Profile Joined August 2014 Latvia 78 Posts Last Edited: 2015-10-12 08:21:49 #14 All-kill is the most entertaining format of the team games in StarCraft. I don't understand why you don't use it in regular season? Of couse, it will make opportunity for some teams to use 1 skilled player, but other team can make a snipers for him. If you will use BO7 all kill, you will create a star-level players for every team and will use them for advertising.



You need to surprise people. Not only by pizza who came to arena, but for the guys, who watch games in internet. You can try to gift branded stuff, but it's not give you huge increase in viewers. So you can try to give players prizes for "combo" series of win in all kill format or give bounty prize for guys who beat team captain. Every team have a captain, but their role means nothing on video, they need to represent team and be the huge part of the game.



Also, you can play with maps format. Maybe maps can be choose by random for the next match up, to make some fun.



One more thing. As StarCraft fan, who played in different era and watching Korea scene since ∽ 2000-2001, i want to know more about main persons of the game. Who they are now? You see audience interests in Nada life, but you can use more players for your ads. Find a Garimto, IntoTheRain, Boxer, V-Gundam, Silent_Control and etc. Use them as the part of SC legacy, show the respect to the guys, who spent years for the game and now gone unknown. 1998-2003 ex-sc player under nickname SoL.Dark.wS

lichter Profile Blog Joined September 2010 1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL 22233 Posts #15 Bring back 10Q10A with a Sojung replacement pls Administrator YOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS

Brutaxilos Profile Blog Joined July 2010 United States 2513 Posts #16



Besides that I think it'd be cool to have more interviews (either Live or Pre-recorded). I'd love to hear players smack talk each other before games. Not sure what other's think but maybe we could have some Archon Mode games integrated? Proleague IS a team league after all and Archon Mode would be a pretty good way to give exposure to less popular names. It might be a stretch but maybe Ace Matches would be played in Archon Mode or maybe the first game of the Bo7 would be in Archon Mode.Besides that I think it'd be cool to have more interviews (either Live or Pre-recorded). I'd love to hear players smack talk each other before games. Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1!

Wrath Profile Blog Joined July 2014 3165 Posts #17 On October 12 2015 17:13 Dingodile wrote:

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On October 12 2015 16:58 WrathSCII wrote:

On October 12 2015 16:51 Shkudde wrote:

I loved the League, I just wish you would start using your own maps again.

Seeing crazy stuff like Neo Arkanoid and great maps like King Sejong for the first time made me fall in love with PL in the first place.



Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!



They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard... Wait, those are maps made by PL? They were FANTASTIC!!!They really should use those over the horrible map pool from Blizzard...

You can do whatever you want but if you want WCS points you have to use Blizzard maps. You can do whatever you want but if you want WCS points you have to use Blizzard maps.



Blizzard really should let the system that worked for over 10 years alone without spoiling it ...

KeSPA proved its success in this field and it should be handling all the Korean stuff (Including the GSL and SSL). They know how to handle it.



Blizzard really should let the system that worked for over 10 years alone without spoiling it ...KeSPA proved its success in this field and it should be handling all the Korean stuff (Including the GSL and SSL). They know how to handle it.

radagastthe3rd Profile Joined December 2014 United States 12 Posts #18



The normal weekly format is good. Ace matches are super hype!



Also, mad props to Kespa for their charts/graphics. Stats have never been so sexy I absolutely love the all-kill format and hope to see it in the future.The normal weekly format is good. Ace matches are super hype!Also, mad props to Kespa for their charts/graphics. Stats have never been so sexy

YSMS Profile Joined April 2015 China 35 Posts #19 spl is pretty good now, but i hope there will be a SWL in next year's proleague, all-kill format makes matches more intersting and exciting.

also i think proleague should build their own maps, because spl is one of the most high-level league, the maps they create is good and interesting(plants, king sejung station, etc.)

For stream, i hope we can see some first personal shoot of game, we can learner some skill from progamer and we can be closer with match.

last, thanks for SPL, there were a lots of memorable games and moments. hope SPL will be better in next year!

Calt Profile Joined September 2011 Finland 1137 Posts #20 As others have said, bo7 would be awesome in the regular season. I understand if it can't be done because of time constraints though.



Another thing is for me personally is the schedule; I think the 2014 season had a nicer schedule because of the Sunday games. Now I often can't watch live at all since both days are during the week! Then again I'm sure there are people who like the current schedule more.



Like other people in the thread have said, more english filler content such as 10Q10A, recorded interviews and team house tours would be amazing.



Possibly most importantly, a HUGE thumbs up for the idea of using and experimenting with more custom, Kespa made maps! Not only do they give fun games (especially in Proleague where players prepare so specifically for the map) but it also helps the entire scene by showcasing maps that could later be adopted to WCS and other tournaments.



Anyway, even though there is always room for improvement, these are only relatively small things. Proleague was amazing this year and I'm sure it will be amazing in 2016 as well! Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS

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