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Two separate reports released Tuesday used different strategies to reach the same conclusion — Canada’s health care wait times leave much to be desired.

The Wait Time Alliance, a group consisting of major doctor’s associations across the country, has analysed data from provincial health care ministries. The Alliance says there’s been some improvement in wait times for certain services like cardiac or radiation treatments, but many others are unacceptably high.

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The Fraser Institute reached its conclusion by surveying 2,382 medical specialists across the country to determine the length of time between when a patient is referred to them and when they receive treatment.

That survey pegs the median wait time is 18.3 weeks, nearly the same as the number reported last year and more than double the length of wait times in 1993.

Both surveys say Saskatchewan and Ontario offer the shortest wait times while patients languish longest in Atlantic Canada.