So did gaming lead you to rap? Or were you always into music?

I was into music before the games. I was always doing music. I've been playing [XBOX] since I was young, but I wasn't really on the game rapping like that. A few years ago I started rapping on the [Live], I was getting clout off of that. And then I started taking it for real. I guess you could say the game was an impact, lowkey, because I gained a big fan base off of rapping on the game, too. I was freestyling most of the time, and I think they just messed with it because I was so young and going so crazy. Me and my homeboy Almighty Jay — he YBN too — we used to just be freestyling in XBOX parties. They used to look up to us, even though we were so young.

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When did you start taking music seriously?

It was just a hobby, something I did when I was bored. I recently started taking it serious because of "Rubbin Off The Paint." I always tried to take it serious, but it was like a It ain't finna get me nowhere-type of mindset. But then, soon as "Rubbin Off The Paint" was finna do numbers, I was like, Yeah, we're gonna get on this music stuff for real.

You say you want to be outside of the box. Are there artists that you look up to that are like that?

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Mozzy, Yatta, Lil Yase — he don't rap like nobody. Mostly, it's a bunch of Bay area people and people from California and Sacramento that got their own type of style. They don't try to be like nobody else. They got their own type of swag. It's different, and it's poppin' right now, too. I'm not trying to say that I'm doing it for no fame. That's the people I be around, so of course that's the mindset that I'm living in. That's how I sound, it stuck and I can't change it.

Key Glock got his own type of swag, too, him and [Young] Dolph. But everybody else, to me they just sound the same. I get tired of that sound. I can't listen to them. It's like everybody try to sound the same exact way because they think it's going to get them some fame, but nah. You've got to be different.