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Photo: Courtesy of Luis De Jesus.

RE: "There is something to that still; the body has an incredible power over our experience in the world. I sometimes think, what if we lived in a genderless society? What if there was an incredible spectrum in the way people presented themselves? Would we still need to transition? Obviously there would be more of a slipperiness to that, but personally I think I probably still would have transitioned, if I was in that position. I think I still would have taken hormones. There’s something powerful and innate about the body and the experience of living in a body that does make the physical aspects of being trans* still a really important part of the conversation."



ZD: "Definitely... And I think that as the procedures become more possible and available and accessible to everybody they might also become more painless. If you think about the future, are we going to experience the same amount of pain after a surgery that we do today? Will we be able to knock ourselves out for a month and not feel it at all? Who knows. In a hundred years, you might be able to change your gender like you change a pair of clothes."