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join:2009-11-25 1 edit 2 recommendations Satch Member [CATV] Update: Spectrum Contract Dispute with Tribune Media There is another dispute going on with Spectrum and Tribune Media. Possible station blackouts if new contracts can't be reached.



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2 recommendations DocDrew Premium Member Re: Nexstar Buys Tribune Media (The Guys Who do Guide Listings.)

»www.tribunemedia.com/tri ··· uptions/ said by Tribune Media : Contract Covering 33 Local Stations in 24 Markets Expires Jan. 1, 2019;

Six Million Viewers Affected, WGN America Cable Network Also Impacted



CHICAGO (Dec. 27, 2018)– Tribune Broadcasting television stations in 24 markets across the United States have begun informing Spectrum subscribers that they may lose the local news, traffic, weather, sports and entertainment programming provided by the company’s 33 television stations in those markets at 12 a.m. ET Jan. 1, 2019, when the contract between Tribune Broadcasting and Spectrum expires.

They also own a bunch of TV stations, which may get blacked out on the 1st over a fee dispute with Spectrum:

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»variety.com/2016/digital ··· 1946006/ Tribune sold their guide listing division was sold to Nielsen 2 years ago.

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»variety.com/2016/digital ··· 1946006/



Satch Thanks! I forgot about Gracenote. Confused with following the potential Tribune Media Blackout on Spectrum on January 1, 2019.Satch



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said by DocDrew: They also own a bunch of TV stations, which may get blacked out on the 1st over a fee dispute with Spectrum Carriage disputes come and go, and while no one prefers a blackout, the negotiations do typically go down to the wire. What is likely more interesting is the longer term, as Nexstar will then be the largest broadcast station operator in the US, and have a larger hammer to throw at Charter and the other cable companies when the carriage contracts come back for renewal in a few years. If you don't like your broadcast fees now, just wait. And Nexstar will also be in a better position at the next Fox reverse compensation fee contract negotiation.

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Broadcast fee surcharges and being annoyed by on-screen alerts that I may lose this station if things don't go their way. You know what I don't miss since turning off TV in August?Broadcast fee surcharges and being annoyed by on-screen alerts that I may lose this station if things don't go their way.



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These shutoffs should be illegal and Americans should not be subsiding OTA via cable. If we have a national emergency in the middle of one of the major blackout datas two media company markets could be screwed. Local cable customers in flyover country are at risk of losing all networks such as Sherman texas they have 3 networks on each OTA channel by two companies and a OTA PBS station on the Oklahoma side.

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2 recommendations reds91185 Member said by motorola870: These shutoffs should be illegal and Americans should not be subsiding OTA via cable. If we have a national emergency in the middle of one of the major blackout datas two media company markets could be screwed. Local cable customers in flyover country are at risk of losing all networks such as Sherman texas they have 3 networks on each OTA channel by two companies and a OTA PBS station on the Oklahoma side. If there was an emergency the Emergency Alert System would kick in and it wouldn't matter what network a subscriber does or doesn't receive.

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OTA's shouldn't be allowed to pull this garbage. It isn't in the public's best interest and in my opinion, it should violate their broadcast license. Indeed. But it would only be limited information and it would recommend you tune to a local channel for more information. And if a local channel is missing.....OTA's shouldn't be allowed to pull this garbage. It isn't in the public's best interest and in my opinion, it should violate their broadcast license.

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Re: [CATV] Update: Spectrum Contract Dispute with Tribune Media These channel disputes are getting crazy



In my market Norfolk, Va each network had some kind of dispute with different TV providers.



Current:



Spectrum - Tribune dispute

CBS- wtkr

CW- wgnt



Fios - Tenga dispute

ABC- fios



Resolved at last min dec 31



Cox - Nextstar dispute

NBC -wavy

FOX - wvbt



Tribune also had a dispute with mediacom but that was also resolved right before deadline



Its getting crazy

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I’m glad they pulled the plug. It’s not fair that the Tribune stations have been running a banner telling people to call Spectrum and complain, while Spectrum has no means until now to tell viewers that Tribune just wants them (and indirectly, us) to pay more for something they broadcast for free over the air.



Congress needs to just abolish pay-to-carry and go back to letting broadcasters require carriage for free, or not at all.

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said by xpxp2002: I’m glad they pulled the plug. It’s not fair that the Tribune stations have been running a banner telling people to call Spectrum and complain, while Spectrum has no means until now to tell viewers that Tribune just wants them (and indirectly, us) to pay more for something they broadcast for free over the air.



Congress needs to just abolish pay-to-carry and go back to letting broadcasters require carriage for free, or not at all.



They should work on legislation to pass this with our new split Congress this month.



Satch I agree!They should work on legislation to pass this with our new split Congress this month.Satch

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Pretty much anything is an antenna. I made one during one hurricane after cable went down with a length of coax with inner conductor and shield separated, made into a dipole. Taped to window, Worked.



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said by xpxp2002: I’m glad they pulled the plug. It’s not fair that the Tribune stations have been running a banner telling people to call Spectrum and complain, while Spectrum has no means until now to tell viewers that Tribune just wants them (and indirectly, us) to pay more for something they broadcast for free over the air.



Congress needs to just abolish pay-to-carry and go back to letting broadcasters require carriage for free, or not at all. As much as I hate this situation, too, Congress should not have to get involved. This is not exactly life threatening. It's still about entertainment.

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I think all networks owners do that



As mentioned above there were multiple disputes in my market, nextstar was running a scroll saying to call Cox as they "could " drop NBC and fox.

At the last hour Cox had an agreement.



I think the Tribune owned wtkr in my market did run scrolls this morning I remember seeing a few on CBS morning show and local news on CW

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said by Anon89bc1 : As much as I hate this situation, too, Congress should not have to get involved. This is not exactly life threatening. It's still about entertainment.



»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca ··· _of_1992

»transition.fcc.gov/Burea ··· 1439.pdf Congress does a lot more than pass bills dealing with life-and-death matters. The 1992 Cable Act, which Congress passed, codified the current must-carry/retransmission consent rules, so it would be the body that would have to act to change it.



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said by xpxp2002: said by Anon89bc1 : As much as I hate this situation, too, Congress should not have to get involved. This is not exactly life threatening. It's still about entertainment.



»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca ··· _of_1992

»transition.fcc.gov/Burea ··· 1439.pdf Congress does a lot more than pass bills dealing with life-and-death matters. The 1992 Cable Act, which Congress passed, codified the current must-carry/retransmission consent rules, so it would be the body that would have to act to change it.



I'm not saying they can't intervene. I just don't think they should. I wouldn't even know how they could. What are they gonna do? Force them to sign a contract? This is not like a police force negotiating terms with a city. This is still just entertainment, and the consumer has plenty of options. This is nothing like 1992. Laws have a hard time keeping up with technology. 1992? That seems like a 1000 years ago.....I'm not saying they can't intervene. I just don't think they should. I wouldn't even know how they could. What are they gonna do? Force them to sign a contract? This is not like a police force negotiating terms with a city. This is still just entertainment, and the consumer has plenty of options. This is nothing like 1992. Laws have a hard time keeping up with technology.

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I wonder if we'll still have access to the fox sports app on Sunday, that's all I really care about.

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the mobile nfl and yahoo apps should work, we'll have to see if the fox sports app works as well.

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I know NFL Network app likes to block a game as soon as it starts.

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said by win10user: Is Yahoo sports app games still only work when using cell phone carrier?



I know NFL Network app likes to block a game as soon as it starts. The Spectrum slate running on my local Tribune station’s channel has a banner that says live NFL games are still available in the NFL and Yahoo Sports apps.



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Agreed ... all that this does is push people to "cut the cord" even faster. I lost channel (KUSI 5 - San Diego) and although it doesn't bother me whatsoever not having access to this channel, it did push me to try a small antenna I had in the garage ... and it works! Also found that I can receive all local broadcast stations in my area.



Now we all KNOW what's going to happen as more and more people cut the cord ... prices for Internet access will start increasing to compensate for the revenue losses.



No matter what, WE the consumer will pay whether we are on Cable TV or just on the Internet.

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SoCal surfinsam Member I think you mean KSWB, KUSI is an independent.