Rory "dephh" Jackson is the entry fragger for compLexity Gaming and a UK native playing in North America.

The 25-year-old kicked off the year by qualifying for DreamHack Masters Las Vegas, but will have an uphill battle there as part of one of the event's underdog teams.

Ahead of his games in Vegas, dephh spoke to theScore esports about moving to America and playing with compLexity's new lineup featuring Derek "desi" Branchen at the helm.

2016 was the year that you moved to America to compete in NA with compLexity. How did that actually start for you? What was your initial reaction?

I was in university, I was studying in my third year and I was just playing ESEA pugs in Premier. Two players, sancz [Joshua "sancz" Ballenger] and roca [Daniel "roca" Gustaferri], were looking through HLTV for potential players for their roster and mine was a name that popped up.

I got a Twitter message from roca, and I went through the account to make sure it was him and he was verified and stuff, and I was like, "is this serious?"

And I remember phoning my parents straight away after a few scrims and I said, "these guys want me to move to America, they want me to fly over and to see what it's like." And my parents just immediately assumed it was bullshit and I was lying, they're like, "there's no way, how are you going to get paid?"

En route to the airport for my first leg of a big ass journey! Thx for the kind wishes and cheers to the boys that mean alot to me 🇬🇧🇺🇸 — Rory J. (@dephh_csgo) February 2, 2016

So it's been about a year since that. How would you sum up your year in NA and 2016 in general?

It's been a strange year because we want to build a team that wants to stay together, we wanted a team that moved into the house. We need everyone to be on for practice everyday, because in the previous lineups, some players didn't want to practice all the time, their hearts weren't in it, you know?

Especially NA players that have played for a while, I think they kind of lose interest in practicing, they lose the fire in their belly, they don't want to win anymore.

So we were really looking for people that, it didn't matter how much they were paid, your living conditions didn't matter, you just wanted to win. Because that's when the big money comes, when you start winning tournaments.

Is that lack of passion, or the burnout factor, the primary reason why there were so many roster changes in 2016?

For our roster changes, I'll have to go back in my head to think about it. I think Josh "shinobi" Abastado was one of our first changes, roca and sancz too.

I don't want to go too much into roca and sancz, because I love them as people. But they were the kind of people that I thought, "these guys are showing up for the paycheck," missing practice and stuff like that. Just stuff that could be avoided, you know?

And then when shinobi came in, we had shinobi and witmer [Shawn "witmer" Taylor] for a while, witmer had some outside troubles. In-game he was fine, he always turned up for practice and he was super into it. He played tons of hours, but he had outside pressures that meant that he couldn't really fit into a team environment. shinobi, I don't feel like he fit in with how we wanted to play, I'm not sure about his calling style and stuff.

They're good players, all these players that we've removed are all good players, I'm sure they'll get into other teams. And our most recent one was APE [Cory "APE" Bate] for desi.

desi is a guy who's been out of a team for a long long time, I think almost a year.

Yeah, I think he left Winterfox in April last year.

I know he had a bad time at Winterfox. He wasn't enjoying it and he's seen as this maybe toxic guy, but he's really not. I've practiced with him already, he doesn't seem like that at all. He just seems dedicated, he wants these big tournaments and that's all we want.

Glad to see Desi getting another chance on a pro team. The guy is legit a top Na player. Should help Col big time — mOE (@m0E_tv) January 20, 2017

You mention desi's bad reputation, have you received any comments from fans or other players about it?

Yeah, see, this is the thing. All the pro players know that he's a great player, so it's a good pick up, everyone said it was a good pickup.

What happened was, I don't know if you remember the whole steel [Joshua "steel" Nissan] and desi debacle. Because steel was a big streamer and desi's just a player, doesn't stream, he couldn't really get his side out there.

What's your first impression of him? How's he in-game, how's the team play so far?

We actually look really good right now, but logistically it's bad right now, we have to get visas to come over. Uber [Michael "Uber" Stapells], who's currently in Canada, has to get a visa to live here and earn here. So getting people into the house has been a struggle.

Right now we have five, including the coach, so once we get Uber... he flies today I think [Feb. 3], maybe in a few hours. So he arrives today, so the next week or two we're just going to just practicing everyday for the Las Vegas event.

If worse comes to worse and this lineup doesn't work out, would you deal with the region change and just pick up another UK player?

Umm, I don't know if there would be another UK player I'd suggest. I was one of the main factors in picking up Surreal [Kia "Surreal" Man], cause he was new, he came from AVA [Alliance of Valiant Arms], another FPS game. And I remember being in the UK, just travelling over, and I remember watching him and thinking, "this guy's good, this guy's got talent."

He's done loads of different LANs for AVA, traveled the world. He's young too, he was only 19 years old, so that's really why we picked him up and he's got such a good mentality. He's quiet, but in-game he's not quiet. He takes advice and he really does it on the chin, he's a good lad.

Kia "Surreal" Man is the second UK import on compLexity Gaming

So, given that, is that kind of a commentary on your opinion of the UK CS:GO scene?

UK CS:GO for me... I don't think the players are bad, I've never said this. I stream now and I get this question asked more than any other question. My answer always is, the players in the UK aren't bad, it's the structure of the UK.

In the UK, you cannot stay at home all day playing games unless you live with your parents and no job, really, or just a part-time job. The only reason I was able to do this is because I was at university and I had a lot of spare time. I was putting 140 hours in two weeks.

I think it's the structure, there's not enough orgs offering money and the orgs are very unprofessional. I know some people in the UK that are still getting paid like $250 a month, but sometimes the payments aren't there.

That's why I came to NA originally, because NA has that infrastructure, it can deal with that kind of stuff.

Another topic I wanted to touch on, you've actually switched roles between being an entry-fragger and in-game leader several times. Given your role instability, and the roster instability, has it been difficult getting a grasp on the team and a playstyle?

Yeah, honestly, I'm known for being the overaggressive, sometimes dying for no reason, kind of playstyle. And I've always played like that, in every game that I've ever played, hyper-aggressive.

And then I went to this in-game leader role, and I remember at ELEAGUE, I was in-game leader... I'm not anymore, because desi's taken over, he wants to call. I still do mid-round calls but not even close to what I was doing.

I'm one of those guys that needs freeing up a little bit, given a little space, and to do whatever I want. Each team has one of those players I think, kind of a loose cannon. Warden [Matt "Warden" Dickens] always shouts at me for that kind of stuff.

But yeah, it's weird, people don't realize how hard it actually is to in-game lead and frag too, it takes real special people. Like shoxie [Richard "shox" Papillon] for example, he's super special because he can top frag and in-game lead at the same time. I know those teams are very structured and they know what they are doing off by heart, but still, to be able to try to call and frag at the same time is super difficult and it shouldn't be taken lightly.

With the team set, what are the current goals for improvement? Are you guys concentrating on the map pool, individual plays or team play?

Right now we're going over four or five maps and we're going to keep strict vetos for each teams that we've come across. We're going to veto the best map of each team that we come across in the near future until we get a deeper map pool.

Mainly we're just playing and jelling right now, because at the start you can't go straight into the detailed stuff. It's more about keeping comms up, making sure you're rotating properly and people are in the right spots.

It takes a while to figure out, but hopefully by Las Vegas we've got a position where we have a good structure to work on.

Las Vegas is actually a pretty interesting tournament given the results of the ELEAGUE Major. Every single team from the Top 8 will be in Las Vegas...

Oh yeah, this tournament is so stacked. This is a perfect opportunity for us to upset some people and say, "you know what, you can't take us for granted."

Because we've done it before, we've taken maps off OpTic before, Renegades we can beat, Misfits we can beat. We just want to surprise people and just go as deep as we can.

What are your big concerns going into the tournament?

I don't know who we're playing yet, I don't think they get released for a while, but I feel like we're going to be seeded last and then Astralis are going to be seeded first. I've got a feeling that's what's going to happen, we're going to play Astralis our first game, which is tough.

Groups for DreamHack Masters Las Vegas #DHMastershttps://t.co/zuyEZ4xW3C



Who do you think will top each group? pic.twitter.com/4Xzq9yQr65 — DreamHackCS (@DreamHackCSGO) February 5, 2017

This team is new, a lot of the players are new to the pro scene. The only time I've ever played pro was this past year, Kia came three months later, so we haven't done a lot of these big tournaments, so this is just a great experience for us. We just want to qualify for a lot of these tournaments, we want to travel and we want to go to these LANs, because we want to get better.

Astralis had this whole choke factor, but now they've finally won something, because they just got used to it. Ninjas in Pyjamas played forever, Virtus.pro played long than I've ever seen CS, these guys are just veterans at these kind of LANs. So we're just taking it in stride and just hoping for the best.

When you're watching replays, is there one team that you emulate or take notes from?

We were watching the ELEAGUE Major and Gambit have a style of playing that would be very good for us. They're not as individually skilled as the other teams, but they play as a unit and they're always together and their rotations are super fast.

Before these games, we're going to watch demos on everyone and take notes. We're going to set our vetoes, we're going to set our map picks.

We've taken a map off Gambit before at ELEAGUE, so it would be nice to play them again, because they don't feel that strong. Sometimes you play some other teams like SK and we get rolled sometimes. It's going to be interesting to see how we do.

Well, given Las Vegas, as well as EPL and ECS, what are your goals for the first half of 2017?

I don't know when the next Major is going to be announced, but I really really really want to make a Major, that's my highest goal. Obviously winning the Major is my highest goal, but we can't be unrealistic with it.

Making a Major, or even a Major qualifier would be super good for me right now. Having only been playing professionally for over a year and having only played CS for three years, going into a Major this early would be really special.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.