Coptur wrote: Megatron should be out and out BAD this is where IDW MK1 got the while autobot/deception cause's wrong.

The Primes should all be noble with the exception of the Fallen (liege maximo is a poor idea for a prime)



I fully understand characters with layers but megs and op work well as black and white characters op should be a sweaky clean Captain America type and megs like the red skull.

I think Liege Maximo can work as a Prime, not as a "villain" but not a good guy either, the only thing wrong with Liege as a Prime is that his name has nothing to do with the established Prime naming, lets look at the Primes from the "Hasbro" version since that's likely to be the one usedPrimaVector PrimeAlpha TrionSolus PrimeMicronus PrimeAlchemist PrimeNexus PrimeAmalgamous PrimeQuintus PrimeLiege MaximoMegatronus Prime (The Fallen)The Thirteenth Prime (Optimus Prime in aligned but we all know this is a stupid idea, I have my own but that's not relevant here)The only ones who break this naming scheme is Prima, Alpha Trion and Liege Maximo and the other two can be justified, Prima being the first should be the outlier and the one who formally established the Prime title with the others being given the title after him, as for Alpha Trion it can simply be that he changed his name from say Alpha Prime to Alpha Trion to better hide himself amongst the population of Cybertron just like how Maccadam might or might not be Alchemist Prime.Alright does anyone remember Logos Prime? https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Logos_Prime He was the only pre aligned 13 Prime who wasn't put among the group because Hasbro didn't consider him as a canon choice for theirs.Liege and Logos? Sort of similar words in spelling,My idea is to merge the two together into one character, Logos Prime being his original name but in the modern day he hides himself by pretending to be an organic giant galactic mob boss named Liege Maximo, sort of like a Pretender but not exactly.This would almost perfectly get rid of all the issues of Liege being a member of the 13 as well as finding a way to make both physical forms of the character work, one giant organic like being as his modern day form and a more smaller "loki" look as his original form.I would also tweak the horns to be like TLK Megatron's where they start as horns on the side of his head but they close in to become a battle mask which gives Liege the Prime face mask look!(I won't get into it here but I think the 13'th Autobot should be the "Matrix itself, someone who used to be his own form but became the Matrix to help Cybertron and guide successor Primes but without being in site, the ultimate robot in disguise, but when they need his help against someone like The Fallen or Unicron at the end of the series or something, The Autobots build a body and install his "Spark" the Matrix into this body...that being The Last Autobot)I also like the idea that the each of the Primes being split from...well I don't know to be representatives of a part of the universe, Megatronus being "darkness/war" so he isn't evil because he's a good guy turned traitor or wants to be but because that's what he's designed to be, this would tie to my idea that Primus himself isn't good but instead represents Order as opposed to Unicron's Chaos so Primus does things for order and balance in the universe and not the greater good which is why someone like him who might be Cybertron would even let the war between Autobots and Decepticons happen or why he lets "evil/bad/flawed" individuals be made in the first place.In other words I'm sure I could make the 13 original Primes idea into something with good writing and deep characters instead of being backstory fodder.