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Jailed prince: Im a victim: Saudi royal who caused fatal crash speaks out

Boston Herald ^ | June 25, 2006 | Laura Crimaldi

Posted on by billorites

Prince Bader Al Saud once lived a life most people lead only in their dreams.

A place in the Saudi royal family. A government-funded education at American universities and schools. Money for expenses, books and even a luxury SUV handed to him by his family and the Saudi Arabian government. A home in a luxury apartment building in Cambridge.

But then, in the early morning hours of Oct. 29, 2002, Al Saud got behind the wheel of his leased BMW X5 after drinking a few Johnnie Walker Black Labels and saw his life turn into a nightmare anyone would dread.

It was a matter of seconds; it was not avoidable, Al Saud said in a recent deposition leading up to a $345,000 settlement reached earlier this month with the survivors of Orlando Ramos, 37, who was fatally struck by the princes SUV as he tried to cross South Charles Street near the Common in downtown Boston. I was shocked. I didnt know what to do.

Al Saud, 24, has never publicly apologized to the family of Ramos, a Cambridge father, who died at Massachusetts General Hospital shortly after the 2:40 a.m. accident.

The deposition, which Al Saud gave at the cozy Dukes County House of Correction in March, offers the first public explanation for the ommission.

The way how I see this is still two victims, said Al Saud in the deposition on file at Middlesex Superior Court. He jumped on my car. . . .(H)es dead, but Im paying for it now; Im in jail. . . . Im paying for his death.

At the time of his sentencing last November, Ramos survivors complained Al Sauds punishment of one year in a Marthas Vineyard jail was hardly fit for the crime of motor vehicle homicide while under the influence.

But in the deposition the prince said the jail is not as nice as it has been described.

The only thing about this jail, theres not a lot of people, said Al Saud, who described a typical day as consisting of reading, watching television, going to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and playing cards with his fellow inmates.

Al Saud also said his title of prince does not mean he will ever rule Saudi Arabia or even become a central figure in his native country.

Theres like 3,000 people ahead of me. And 3,000 behind me. . . . That will never ever happen, not even in this life, not even in 200 years. So its just the idea of prince,  Al Saud said. If I go to Saudi, no one knows me, no one recognizes me because they dont see my picture in the streets. . . .A lot of people watched the movie Going to America where hes a prince and he came from another country and he even had his picture on their money. That dont work with me. Im not this guy. . . . I am just the victim for all that.



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To: billorites

He must be thinking in jail...



I should have told the cops I was a Kennedy.



by 2 posted onby rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)

To: billorites

reading, watching television, going to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and playing cards with his fellow inmates. Cruel and unusual punishment. Don't know how the poor guy copes. /s



by 3 posted onby PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)

To: billorites

Maybe one of the three thousand 'behinds' will want to move up just one in the sequence. Jizz-hard! All uh axe-bar.



by 4 posted onby dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)

To: billorites

A photo of the jail...how horrid!



http://www.dukescounty.org/Pages/DukesCountyMA_Sheriff/jail



To: billorites

But then, in the early morning hours of Oct. 29, 2002, Al Saud got behind the wheel of his leased BMW X5 after drinking a few Johnnie Walker Black Labels ...being the good Muslim that he is!



To: billorites

The MO in islam is "never accept responsibility" (i.e. never grow up). No wonder they live in a shame-based world.



by 7 posted onby Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)

To: billorites

I don't think the entitlement attitude is because he's a Saudi Prince, it's because he's an elitist. The same kind of "two victims" garbage can be heard from many of the rich kids (and adults) in most minimum security jails and prisons.



by 8 posted onby Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)

To: billorites

1 year for vehicular homicide.........1 year.



by 9 posted onby Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)

To: billorites

This guy's cousin killed my best friend in 1993.



An unlicensed student at Boston University, he crossed the median on Memorial Drive, Cambridge, MA., and drove his brand new Mercedes roadster head-on into my buddy's pickup, killing him and the other occupant instantly. The Saudi was uninjured because all the air bags deployed.



The police couldn't arrest him at the scene because he had diplomatic immunity. He flew back to Saudi two days later to avoid a civil suit.



by 10 posted onby Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)

To: billorites

Typical media cross-word-puzzle-style story. Have to read it a couple of times to try to figure out what happened. What does it mean "jumped on my car"? Does the writer know? Care? Too busy picking his nose to have a comment on that?



Why not start with the facts at the start of the story, instead of the fluff? It would have made it much more readable.



Any decent journalism teacher would have given this story and F.



To: Kakaze

And there are no accidents with a round chambered or a key in the ignition but negligents[sic] only.



by 12 posted onby dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)

To: billorites

I am just the victim for all that.











I thought the victim died



by 13 posted onby sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)

To: Nothometoday

that's a jail? geez-louise. Let's update their demographics: This next chart illustrates the category and the number of charges of the 1,261 admissions: Category Number of charges Alcohol (511) Property (119) Violent (137) Drug (159) Other (335) Whining about being a Prince from another country where he's 3,000th in line and they don't even put his picture on their currency (1)



To: Dark Skies

The MO in islam & Lib/Dems is "never accept responsibility" (i.e. never grow up). There, that looks better



To: samtheman

Picking his nose while hanging around the flax-machine waiting for a story to break wind or a PiSSA (public information self-serving announcement) to arrive. Journalism by press release, the MO of the MSM, dead men walking.



by 16 posted onby dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)

To: Dark Skies



Look how he compartmentalized his act .. (I didn't get drunk ... but) This guy walked in front of MY car (while I was minding my own business .. ) and he de-facto committed suicide. Why am I in here? I think it's more of a life attitude. Islamists just seem to consider God's miricle of life a chess game or something.Look how he compartmentalized his act .. (I didn't get drunk ... but) This guy walked in front of MY car (while I was minding my own business .. ) and he de-facto committed suicide. Why amin here? There's no reasoning with people that cannot add one-plus-one and come up with two ... it's always whatever answer they want it to be, HOW did this mentality get as far as it did?



by 17 posted onby knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)

To: billorites

Does 'the prince' get deported after his jail term has been served?



To: billorites

Prince Bader Al Saud once lived a life most people lead only in their dreams. A place in the Saudi royal family. The only time I might dream of "a place in the Saudi royal family" is after eating a bad lobster. Yeah, sure, I'd love to have their dough, but being one of them carries way too much baggage.



To: Kakaze

1 year for vehicular homicide.........1 year. It happens here in Norfolk, VA. too. The driver wasn't a prince, rather a 18 yr old girl who ran down a 67 year old man out for a walk. Young driver will serve 1 year for involuntary manslaughter



by 20 posted onby csvset ("It was like the hand of G_d slapping down and smashing everything." ~ JDAM strikes Taliban)

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