KiLL_ORdeR Profile Blog Joined June 2009 United States 1483 Posts Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:43:46 #2 First



Can't wait to watch todays show ^^ In order to move forward, we must rid ourselves of that which holds us back. Check out my stream and give me tips! twitch.tv/intotheskyy

Eury Profile Joined December 2008 Sweden 1115 Posts #3 I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

GrimReefer Profile Joined March 2011 United States 438 Posts #4 nice, i hope i remember to watch this! You're rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin, I can't sell this sh*t.

Slasher Profile Joined September 2007 United States 1059 Posts #5 On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:

I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

We will be discussing with Matt this topic We will be discussing with Matt this topic

Mairu Profile Joined August 2010 United States 222 Posts #6 On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:

I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O

jmbthirteen Profile Blog Joined February 2011 United States 10249 Posts #7 On June 23 2011 07:00 Mairu wrote:

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On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:

I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O



Which raises the question, why doesn't Blizzard do this? Which raises the question, why doesn't Blizzard do this? www.superbeerbrothers.com

Mailing Profile Joined March 2011 United States 3087 Posts #8 On June 23 2011 07:03 jmbthirteen wrote:

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On June 23 2011 07:00 Mairu wrote:

On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:

I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O



Which raises the question, why doesn't Blizzard do this? Which raises the question, why doesn't Blizzard do this?



Blizzard doesn't support ESPORTS!!!!



But really, who knows.



I think they do for GSL at least, but they really should for MLG/Dreamhack/IEM/etc Blizzard doesn't support ESPORTS!!!!But really, who knows.I think they do for GSL at least, but they really should for MLG/Dreamhack/IEM/etc Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866

MaxField Profile Blog Joined May 2010 United States 2385 Posts #9 The show starts in like an hour right? I will be watching the one on today for sure, The Dreamhack review sounds like it should be neat. "Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.

chesshaha Profile Joined March 2010 United States 1112 Posts #10



Good topics tonight, looking forward to the Huk interview. Long time viewer of the show, everyone who's interested in competitive gaming should tune in or get the pod cast every week.Good topics tonight, looking forward to the Huk interview. "Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK

leecH Profile Blog Joined September 2010 Germany 385 Posts Last Edited: 2011-06-22 22:10:09 #11 you guys need to ask Matt Marcou why there are no replays, spectator mode and enough EU-Servers so their game can be played *cough*competitive*cough*.......



no fluff, right?

alexhard Profile Joined May 2010 Sweden 310 Posts #12



Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:



Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?



There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that? Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?

Redmark Profile Joined March 2010 Canada 2025 Posts #13 On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:

Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s



Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?



There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that? Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?

His EG teammate Justin Wong caused a whole shitstorm about this too. His EG teammate Justin Wong caused a whole shitstorm about this too.

Vonthin Profile Joined August 2010 United States 1600 Posts #14 On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:

I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.



They weren't really inflated, all they did was advertise better and LoL is very popular. When you opened the client it wouldn't count as a viewer or anything, if you clicked it it would open your browser and open the stream. If it counted stream viewers from opening LoL then there would be a lot more than that. LoL is currently the second largest PC game in the west(Just behind WoW). They weren't really inflated, all they did was advertise better and LoL is very popular. When you opened the client it wouldn't count as a viewer or anything, if you clicked it it would open your browser and open the stream. If it counted stream viewers from opening LoL then there would be a lot more than that. LoL is currently the second largest PC game in the west(Just behind WoW). Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid

haffy Profile Joined September 2010 United Kingdom 430 Posts #15 On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:

Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s



Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?



There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that? Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?



It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes. It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes.

Irave Profile Joined October 2010 United States 8556 Posts #16 Excited about tonight's show, really curious how the interview with RiotMarcou will go. He isn't the most popular guy in our sub forum.

MrDudeMan Profile Joined April 2011 Canada 972 Posts #17 On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:

Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s



Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?



There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that? Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?



I dont think its a situation that occurs that often as most tournaments dont function like NASL. I dont think its a situation that occurs that often as most tournaments dont function like NASL.

N3rV[Green] Profile Blog Joined August 2009 United States 1830 Posts #18 Wow....I just lost a GREAT deal of respect for IdrA.



I now know that he does not play to win, he really is just a cry baby after all. That's too bad, he had potential.



Either way I can't wait till the show, gonna be some epic shit talking with HuK, and I really want to know Riots take on their stream numbers. Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.

TheSubtleArt Profile Joined May 2011 Canada 1806 Posts #19 On June 23 2011 07:58 haffy wrote:

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On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:

Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s



Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?



There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that? Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?



It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes. It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes.

Not really a huge deal in my opinion. The NASL features hundreds of games, so 3 or 4 sets being thrown isn't that noticable. On top of that it's a free stream so I don't think fans are too entitled to complain that 4 of the 200+ games aren't competitive. It's not like a soccer game where fans purchase expensive tickets to watch a single game and support their team, and the team intentionaly throws the game.



It would be nice if the NASL was designed in a way that wouldn't make throwing games beneficial but again, it's not a big deal. Idra losing a series on purpose is definitely not something to create a shitstorm over. Not really a huge deal in my opinion. The NASL features hundreds of games, so 3 or 4 sets being thrown isn't that noticable. On top of that it's a free stream so I don't think fans are too entitled to complain that 4 of the 200+ games aren't competitive. It's not like a soccer game where fans purchase expensive tickets to watch a single game and support their team, and the team intentionaly throws the game.It would be nice if the NASL was designed in a way that wouldn't make throwing games beneficial but again, it's not a big deal. Idra losing a series on purpose is definitely not something to create a shitstorm over. Dodge arrows

alexhard Profile Joined May 2010 Sweden 310 Posts #20 On June 23 2011 08:05 TheSubtleArt wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 23 2011 07:58 haffy wrote:

On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:

Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s



Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?



There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that? Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?



It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes. It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes.

Not really a huge deal in my opinion. The NASL features hundreds of games, so 3 or 4 sets being thrown isn't that noticable. On top of that it's a free stream so I don't think fans are too entitled to complain that 4 of the 200+ games aren't competitive. It's not like a soccer game where fans purchase expensive tickets to watch a single game and support their team, and the team intentionaly throws the game.



It would be nice if the NASL was designed in a way that wouldn't make throwing games beneficial but again, it's not a big deal. Idra losing a series on purpose is definitely not something to create a shitstorm over. Not really a huge deal in my opinion. The NASL features hundreds of games, so 3 or 4 sets being thrown isn't that noticable. On top of that it's a free stream so I don't think fans are too entitled to complain that 4 of the 200+ games aren't competitive. It's not like a soccer game where fans purchase expensive tickets to watch a single game and support their team, and the team intentionaly throws the game.It would be nice if the NASL was designed in a way that wouldn't make throwing games beneficial but again, it's not a big deal. Idra losing a series on purpose is definitely not something to create a shitstorm over.



If players think it's acceptable to throw games to gain a better position in a tournament...it's not a big stretch to think that it's acceptable to throw games for money. Obviously I'm not saying Idra did that, but I think that even the appearance of the possibility of such impropriety should be heavily discouraged. If players think it's acceptable to throw games to gain a better position in a tournament...it's not a big stretch to think that it's acceptable to throw games for money. Obviously I'm not saying Idra did that, but I think that even the appearance of the possibility of such impropriety should be heavily discouraged.

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