TheoMikkelsen Profile Joined June 2013 Denmark 196 Posts Last Edited: 2016-12-15 23:19:38 #1 Hey everyone!



It is clear to everyone that Nation Wars is a fantastic tournament, providing us with an arena whose spectatorship competes with the top SC2 esports and whose rivalry between nations does not reach any higher boundaries in terms of excitement.

Besides these cool things, Nation Wars is also – if not the only – great opportunity for semi-professional players to really shine through on a massive SC2 stage without going through intense qualifiers – online or not – with great depth in terms of personal commitment and skill development.





This is not a call out for players, myself or anyone else, whom do not perform adequately to get themselves into the spotlight as StarCraft II players, but rather a presentation of the facts that remain with the situation that we are currently in: That Nation Wars is amazing, and that the voting system is completely corrupted.



I sincerely believe that the voting system for Nation Wars degrades all the great aspects that we otherwise love, and I find it necessary to point out to people just how easy it is for someone to massively inflate their votes in favor of themselves. Now I am well aware that some countries or players are not in need of this to place in the top 3, but with the recent events of Guru being excluded from the votings and maphacking accusations, I wanted to shed light on things once more as I also did last year.



Nobody knows if Guru himself, or a friend of his, or fans, or enemies, took action and voted for him multiple times. Neither does anyone know, if countries where the voting is very close, has had ill-intended players trying to get themselves into the top 3. The fact is that anybody could be the perpetrator. A random Byun fan could literally have send thousands of votes in his way, preventing the many other exceptionally talented Koreans with the same opportunity.



There are several methods to vote infinitely in Nation Wars, including using proxies, VPN, phone apps and a variety of cookies/cache manipulation tricks. A simple way is to use the phone app "hola" as your voting browser.



It is really that simple. And this simplicity is the really scary thing about this, as this clearly demonstrates the possibility of manipulated votes.



I hope there is a way to see the voting restarted and requiring email and/or battle.net account verifications, but this would break the schedule and declare all legitimate votes useless. Better yet would be to ensure a better voting system is in place for the next year of any similar tournaments for SC2.



If an account/email/battletag system is not possible, I would suggest making a qualifier before the votes in which 2 players qualify. The last spot + substitute are then voted in through the voting process. This would largely make the tournament qualifier-based without sacrificing the voting system. Any sufficiently cheesy build is indistinguishable in skill

Nakajin Profile Blog Joined September 2014 Canada 6579 Posts Last Edited: 2016-12-15 23:17:05 #2 You better edit the "how to cheat the vote" asap, you don't want to make it easier for people or give them idea, just say it is easy

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InfCereal Profile Joined December 2011 Canada 1556 Posts #3 "How to rig nation wars voting"



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notgayDragon Profile Joined November 2016 142 Posts #4 Guru please stick to one account "I not gay, sorry."

TheoMikkelsen Profile Joined June 2013 Denmark 196 Posts Last Edited: 2016-12-15 23:20:22 #5 On December 16 2016 08:16 Nakajin wrote:

You better edit the "how to cheat the vote" asap, you don't want to make it easier for people or give them idea, just say it is easy





I understand. But it is also my message to show how simple it is to paint the picture of how much manipulation there could be, and also to back up my claims.



But I made a small edit taking that into account. I understand. But it is also my message to show how simple it is to paint the picture of how much manipulation there could be, and also to back up my claims.But I made a small edit taking that into account. Any sufficiently cheesy build is indistinguishable in skill

The_Red_Viper Profile Blog Joined August 2013 18785 Posts #6 ), because it raises understandable concerns.

At the same time i think these online voting scenarios almost always are done like that. There will be always methods to cheat the system :/ I really want someone from ogaming to comment on this (aeromi), because it raises understandable concerns.At the same time i think these online voting scenarios almost always are done like that. There will be always methods to cheat the system :/ BLΛƆKPIИK in your area | IU | SoHyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |

TheoMikkelsen Profile Joined June 2013 Denmark 196 Posts #7 On December 16 2016 08:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:

I really want someone from ogaming to comment on this (aeromi ), because it raises understandable concerns.

At the same time i think these online voting scenarios almost always are done like that. There will be always methods to cheat the system :/ I really want someone from ogaming to comment on this (aeromi), because it raises understandable concerns.At the same time i think these online voting scenarios almost always are done like that. There will be always methods to cheat the system :/



Yeah this is true, but I mostly get concerned when I see Guru removed from the tournament despite whatever claims you can make about him outside of the actual voting. Not to mention a alleged potential maphacker about to receive a spot into a strong tournament like this. Yeah this is true, but I mostly get concerned when I see Guru removed from the tournament despite whatever claims you can make about him outside of the actual voting. Not to mention a alleged potential maphacker about to receive a spot into a strong tournament like this. Any sufficiently cheesy build is indistinguishable in skill

notgayDragon Profile Joined November 2016 142 Posts #8 Ah yes, Guru. The map hacker, the stream cheater, the member of D9CBD/N1GR/imbaQQ and now isIMBA. The guy who called iNcontroL a "nigger" on his stream.



Yes, you know who should be in Nation Wars 4? A guy that casually says the N word. "I not gay, sorry."

TheoMikkelsen Profile Joined June 2013 Denmark 196 Posts #9 On December 16 2016 08:52 notgayDragon wrote:

Ah yes, Guru. The map hacker, the stream cheater, the member of D9CBD/N1GR/imbaQQ and now isIMBA. The guy who called iNcontroL a "nigger" on his stream.



Yes, you know who should be in Nation Wars 4? A guy that casually says the N word.



All it takes is one voter who thought it could be funny to see guru in Nation Wars 4. Or himself. My job is not to say which one is more likely, but what is theoretically possible.



People are not guilty until otherwise proven.



There are also more severe methods that I have not mentioned as that would surely screw up the votings. All it takes is one voter who thought it could be funny to see guru in Nation Wars 4. Or himself. My job is not to say which one is more likely, but what is theoretically possible.People are not guilty until otherwise proven.There are also more severe methods that I have not mentioned as that would surely screw up the votings. Any sufficiently cheesy build is indistinguishable in skill

207aicila Profile Joined January 2015 1236 Posts #10 On December 16 2016 08:19 notgayDragon wrote:

Guru please stick to one account



http://aligulac.com/players/7660-Theo/ mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''