Orite Profile Joined July 2013 Germany 137 Posts Last Edited: 2016-10-14 02:21:27 #1



On October 02 2016 00:23 mca64Launcher_ wrote:

i will donate you 20$ if you will win with koget 14:0 zvt



On October 02 2016 12:35 DiMiaN wrote:

I donate 20$ more to the pot.



On October 05 2016 05:41 DSK wrote:

I'll put $60.00 into the pot [...]



On October 08 2016 11:48 calgar wrote:

[...] I'm good for $20.



On October 02 2016 20:53 LaStScan wrote:

I would take it [...]



On October 03 2016 03:04 kogeT wrote:

I can play the bet vs scan. I can play the bet vs scan.



- Showmatch -





vs

Scan vs kogeT



Prizepool: $120



Saturday, 8th October at 20:30 CET/11:30AM PDT





Final score:



+ Show Spoiler + Scan 11 - 3 kogeT





Scan FPV VOD:



https://www.twitch.tv/skryoo1004/v/93772545



Ty2 and puppykiller livecast VOD:



https://www.twitch.tv/julyzurg/v/93778619 *

* first 2 games are missing



Cast of the replays by BisuDagger:



on BisuDagger's YouTube Channel



Replays: Filedropper













In course of ongoing discussions about who the yet Scan wouldn't be able to defeat kogeT 14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (Scan off-racing as Zerg), just like



As far as rules and conditions go, please leave all your ideas and suggestions in the comments!









In course of ongoing discussions about who the yet undefeated and infamous iCCup player dong222 is, and if it might be Scan, people put word and money on the theory thatwouldn't be able to defeat14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (Scan off-racing as Zerg), just like dong222 during his flawless winning streak did. Both, Scan and kogeT, are willing to find that out!As far as rules and conditions go, please leave all your ideas and suggestions in the comments! Format:





Matchup: (Z) Scan vs (T) kogeT



Rules: Scan must win 14 matches in a row to win the prizepool; kogeT can take it from him by winning 1 match. A draw gets voided.



Maps: 11x



Prizepool: $120 go to the winner of the challange!



Streams: BisuDagger, FlaShFTW and iloveav all offered to cast. I will notify all casters as soon as a time is set. In any case BisuDagger will cast the replays, but if latency and time allows one of them might also be able to livecast.



Date: Saturday, 8th October at 20:30 CET













Scan's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/skryoo1004



kogeT's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw



Scan's PayPal: musik29@naver.com



kogeT's PayPal: koget@wp.pl



musik29@naver.comkoget@wp.pl







Poll: Would kogeT be able to take one match from Scan in a TvZ?



Yes (74)

52%



Scan ain't that gosu (23)

16%



Scan is dong222 (18)

13%



No (14)

10%



Maybe if he cheeses (13)

9%



142 total votes (74)52%(23)16%(18)13%(14)10%(13)9%142 total votes Your vote: Would kogeT be able to take one match from Scan in a TvZ? (Vote): Yes

(Vote): No

(Vote): Maybe if he cheeses

(Vote): Scan ain't that gosu

(Vote): Scan is dong222







(Z) Scan vs(T) kogeTScan must win 14 matches in a row to win the prizepool; kogeT can take it from him by winning 1 match. A draw gets voided.11x Fighting Spirit , 3x Jade (same as kogeT played vs dong222)$120 go to the winner of the challange!BisuDagger, FlaShFTW and iloveav all offered to cast. I will notify all casters as soon as a time is set. In any case BisuDagger will cast the replays, but if latency and time allows one of them might also be able to livecast.Saturday, 8th October at 20:30 CET ♥ Huge thanks to the donors mca64, DiMiaN, DSK and calgar, both players Scan and kogeT and the whole of the Brood War TL.net community for making this showmatch possible and as enjoyable as it can get!

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Th1rdEye Profile Blog Joined December 2006 United States 1069 Posts #2 If the game is balanced and they are actually close to skill then it would be very improbable that Scan would win 14:0 considering the ZvT matchup's statistics and map statistics. Otherwise, this isn't even a real showmatch cuz it would be like an A+ iCCup player playing vs a B rank player or something. from the days of: TheMarine [NC]...YellOw [H.O.T.]-Forever99 OgOgO [_MuMyung_] ChRh PlayGrrrr.... SlayerS_`BoxeR` [Oops]Reach [ReD]NaDa [DF]zergboy..!! Pusan[S.G] Nal_rA GARIMTO SSamJJang ChoJJa JinSu Silent_Control iloveoov H_PauL_WII JulyZerg [DaK]JoYo

Orite Profile Joined July 2013 Germany 137 Posts Last Edited: 2016-10-02 22:45:15 #3 On October 03 2016 07:34 Th1rdEye wrote:

If the game is balanced and they are actually close to skill then it would be very improbable that Scan would win 14:0 considering the ZvT matchup's statistics and map statistics. Otherwise, this isn't even a real showmatch cuz it would be like an A+ iCCup player playing vs a B rank player or something.



Both players are very high skilled and by iCCup ranks it would be more like A+ vs Olympic. In my opinion Scan has an clear edge in skill, especially in their offraces, but imo Scan, really both players, would need to give it their all and thus make for some interesting matches.



To me, seeing Scan as a clear favorite, it would be exciting to see if kogeT really can take a game from him and the conditions would be somewhat justified.



But yea, you're right, it enables a lot of ground for discussion if that's fair and what not, but at the end that's really up to the betters/donors.



e/ I don't know what kogeTs Fish rank is or if he's even laddering there. Both players are very high skilled and by iCCup ranks it would be more like A+ vs Olympic. In my opinion Scan has an clear edge in skill, especially in their offraces, but imo Scan, really both players, would need to give it their all and thus make for some interesting matches.To me, seeing Scan as a clear favorite, it would be exciting to see if kogeT really can take a game from him and the conditions would be somewhat justified.But yea, you're right, it enables a lot of ground for discussion if that's fair and what not, but at the end that's really up to the betters/donors.e/ I don't know what kogeTs Fish rank is or if he's even laddering there. ㅈㅈ

-Dustin- Profile Blog Joined July 2011 United States 716 Posts #4 On October 03 2016 07:21 Orite wrote:

14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (both players offracing, Scan as Zerg and kogeT as Terran),



Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing? Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing?

Orite Profile Joined July 2013 Germany 137 Posts #5 On October 03 2016 07:45 -Dustin- wrote:

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On October 03 2016 07:21 Orite wrote:

14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (both players offracing, Scan as Zerg and kogeT as Terran),



Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing? Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing?



From what I figure he only plays/played Terran instead of ZvZ. He might play Terran a lot more by now, but I'd say for both players it's an incredibly strong off-race. From what I figure he only plays/played Terran instead of ZvZ. He might play Terran a lot more by now, but I'd say for both players it's an incredibly strong off-race. ㅈㅈ

-Dustin- Profile Blog Joined July 2011 United States 716 Posts Last Edited: 2016-10-02 22:53:38 #6 On October 03 2016 07:48 Orite wrote:

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On October 03 2016 07:45 -Dustin- wrote:

On October 03 2016 07:21 Orite wrote:

14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (both players offracing, Scan as Zerg and kogeT as Terran),



Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing? Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing?



From what I figure he only plays/played Terran instead of ZvZ. He might play Terran a lot more by now, but I'd say for both players it's an incredibly strong off-race. From what I figure he only plays/played Terran instead of ZvZ. He might play Terran a lot more by now, but I'd say for both players it's an incredibly strong off-race.

Oh you are probably right. The only games I've seen of his are TvZ's makes sense. Oh you are probably right. The only games I've seen of his are TvZ's makes sense.

ArmadA[NaS] Profile Joined January 2014 United States 335 Posts #7 Koget used to play Zerg at a very high level back in TSL days, but he recently switched to Terran in all matchups and is still like E rank on fish.

BisuDagger Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Bisutopia 17617 Posts #8 Date and time please. If you sends reps, ill cast this on my Tuesdays casts. Moderator Ofiicial Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2

StylishVODs Profile Joined December 2005 Sweden 5331 Posts #9 Funniest match ever.

The guy going 13-1 loses. lol According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.

FyRe_DragOn Profile Blog Joined November 2006 Canada 1999 Posts #10 koget is 100% terran and has been for like 2 years or something. I favor koget here, taking 1 game out of 14 should be doable lol aka DragOn[NaS]

PharaphobiaSC Profile Joined April 2016 Czech Republic 457 Posts #11 Can we donate to raise the prizepool? twitch.tv/pharaphobia

Orite Profile Joined July 2013 Germany 137 Posts #12 On October 03 2016 08:20 BisuDagger wrote:

Date and time please. If you sends reps, ill cast this on my Tuesdays casts.



Awesome! Will definetely notify you as soon as things are set.



Awesome! Will definetely notify you as soon as things are set. On October 03 2016 09:42 PharaphobiaSC wrote:

Can we donate to raise the prizepool?



Absolutely! Raising the stakes is very welcome, but as a little disclaimer: exact conditions of the showmatch might not have 100% settled yet.



Absolutely! Raising the stakes is very welcome, but as a little disclaimer: exact conditions of the showmatchnot have 100% settled yet. On October 03 2016 08:47 FyRe_DragOn wrote:

koget is 100% terran and has been for like 2 years or something. I favor koget here, taking 1 game out of 14 should be doable lol



I didn't know that. I'll leave the op as is for now though. I didn't know that. I'll leave the op as is for now though. ㅈㅈ

Jealous Profile Blog Joined December 2011 8231 Posts #13 Make it mandatory to play all matches even if Scan loses at some point during the 14 games. 𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑖𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑟 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒. -- бум бум сучка!

FortyOne Profile Joined October 2016 Thailand 26 Posts #14 wow this community is awesome It gets easier. Every day it gets a little easier. But you got to do it every day. That's the hard part. But it does get easier.

MinscandBoo Profile Blog Joined May 2011 247 Posts #15 I would also lobby that the OP be updated. I dunno if its some sort of TLPD auto formatting but having them playing in the showmatch the opposite of what is bolded next to their names is quite confusing especially since I knew before I opened the thread what races they said they were going to be playing.



Agree with Jealous they should play all 14 IMO.



Scan is obv quite good but kogeT only has to take 1 game out of 14 to spoil Scan's efforts so it will be interesting. Swords! Not words!

SCC-Faust Profile Blog Joined November 2007 United States 3719 Posts #16 I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me. I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.

FyRe_DragOn Profile Blog Joined November 2006 Canada 1999 Posts #17 On October 03 2016 12:45 SCC-Faust wrote:

I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me.



A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it. A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it. aka DragOn[NaS]

SCC-Faust Profile Blog Joined November 2007 United States 3719 Posts #18 On October 03 2016 13:21 FyRe_DragOn wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 03 2016 12:45 SCC-Faust wrote:

I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me.



A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it. A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it.



Uh that is insane. What ranks are below F on Fish? Uh that is insane. What ranks are below F on Fish? I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.

FyRe_DragOn Profile Blog Joined November 2006 Canada 1999 Posts #19 On October 03 2016 13:43 SCC-Faust wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 03 2016 13:21 FyRe_DragOn wrote:

On October 03 2016 12:45 SCC-Faust wrote:

I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me.



A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it. A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it.



Uh that is insane. What ranks are below F on Fish? Uh that is insane. What ranks are below F on Fish?



Just F- afaik Just F- afaik aka DragOn[NaS]

XenOsky Profile Blog Joined March 2008 Chile 1829 Posts #20 what happens if kogeT wins the first game, SM is over? west dm clan, korea ever clan.

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