alwayssts but this is really starting to reek of marketing shenanigans. I thought AMD knew that was the one thing that kept them more respectable than nvidia.

Friend not sure what to make of this ranting... :wtf:I look at it this way... AMD gave us a fine card in the 7850, 1Gb while probably on that PCB and a Pitcairn silicon could hold some acceptable profit for both them and AIB's. However, I see that as Pitcairn has matured AMD probably is seeing yields on the "XT" version increase. Bonaire is a "pipe-cleaner" (aka 4770), but not to test a process shrink, but revisions to GNC architecture or structure layout. Some reports say it isn't, but no company would spin new silicone without proving some engineering purpose. So you "rake AMD over the coals" for actual developing new stuff, not just fluffing some gelded chip that's just bizarre! I'd much rather see AMD challenge/confronting with new engineering tech, than cobbling together something that more smoke and mirrors with spec's and bigger stickered boxes.Here's the thing, 7850 1Gb will wane from channel over the next 6-8 weeks, while 7850 2Gb will see a certain "scarceness", that holds pricing in the $160-170. However, with 7870's in abundance you'll be hard pressed to drop $170-190 -AR for 7870 by end of April. The 7790 will back-fill 7850 1Gb deals (right now $150-160), with a card that's within 10%, while $130-150 MSRP at the start.I don't know if even this will finally snap Nvidia from its’ delusional pricing. The 7790 will snuff the GTX650Ti, basically bestowing 7790 as the first "budget card" to really provide 1920x gaming without killing all eye-candy for most, except the most arduous/modern titles. Now a GTX660 at $210-230 is 8% in front of the 7850; although still bested by the 7870 it isn't that far 8-9% behind... Then GTX660Ti which has a 30-40% premium ($275-300). Basically the 7870 Tahiti LE part for $220 easily spars with the GTX660Ti. It's not unlike Green Marketing to go all pigheaded on us.I see it as perfectly played, AMDand adding new pressure on the market after one year of releasing Cape Verde and Pitcairn silicon. Here's what's fantastic... 7790's will be like a GTX560Ti and will probably settle in a $125-135 -AR. Not a bad place (card) that less than 18 mo's ago was in the $240 price range, and the first card that will provide 1920x and decent settings for the mass's!:toast: