bunch of people don't like how SP is profiting from GBs

so they want to split up "non profit GB" and "Commercial GB"

i personally agree with you, but you know how the vocal ones are.



With PMK, verification of age is moot, as they handle all the logistics, and all the user has to do is design a good looking set.



I agree with you that the facts apparently don't matter to some people. But as was pointed out in this thread ( http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55800.0 ) -- which was subsequently placed in 'off-topic' (?) -- every GB that was run through Signature Plastics was profitable (or intended to be profitable) to Signature Plastics. The 'traditional' way of running a GB, in which all logistics aside from manufacturing are handled by a forum member -- SP still makes a profit. So ... that argument doesn't really hold.The best argument that was made in the thread I referenced above is that having vendors too closely 'integrated' into the community could change it's nature. To me, it still stinks of a small minority (whoever makes the rules at GH) believing that ordinary community members won't make the choice that they would prefer that they make (go the 'traditional' GB route).The keyboard community exists apart from GH, and I think it would be wiser to make it easier for people to get what they want, not harder. Maybe if GH makes it annoying and difficult enough, the community will just move to the PMK forums? Maybe not everyone, but a large number of people will just check at PMK.Put all the groupbuys in one forum -- what arrangement could be simpler than that? If users need to be 'protected' from evil corporations (eyeroll) then clearly label the groupbuys that are sponsored by a vendor as such, so concerned forum members can steer clear.Have we determined yet, that a PMK-groupbuy is, in fact, a groupbuy, and not some other sort of event?You're right, thanks MOZ! Glad we could establish that the PMK system is inherently safer than a traditional GB.