Predominantly Inattentive ADD - Natural Cure My Quick Personal History



I have just recently self-diagnosed myself with ADD after years of suffering and being accused of lazy and not caring and getting beat by my Russian mother as a natural stimulation (external factor) that worked to make me a straight A student. Right now, I am 17, a senior in high school and my mom doesn't care anymore about my grades so they went down with my ADD.



Today I proved to my dad that I have predominantly inattentive ADD. He finally believes and knows there is something wrong with me after years of complaining of me being "tired/disorganized/extremely forgetful/not caring about things"



My social life has been a tragedy, and i always got made fun of for not hearing things the first time and doing other ADD related things, which were due to lack of concentration/unstimulation.



Up until today, I didn't know I had ADD and exactly what it was due to my ignorance and my parents who didn't know a predominantly inattentive ADD exists and ADD drugs were just a whole pharmacy conspiracy.



I know that I wouldn't be able to convince my dad to get medication for ADD because in Russia, where he lives, there is really no such thing as ADD due to ignorance and a better, less corrupt medical system in Russia when compared to America's dumb *** doctors. In Russia, herbal and diet changing therapies are always first; any taking of drugs is the doctors last resort for a cure acknowledging the potential harm to their patients.



Predominantly Inattentive ADD - Natural Cure



Chapter 1 - Natural Predominantly Inattentive ADD cures



What I want to do, with the knowledge of everybody here on this forum, is to share all the neccessary steps to take in improving people's symptoms with predominantly inattentive ADD. Whether it was physical exercise, mental exercise, herbs, vitamins, diet, nootropics, breathing exercise, or supplements. I want to gather all important articles, helpful posts, websites, and other information regarding predominantly inattentive ADD (pi-add)



Let me start from what I know so far about pi-add, and what I am unsure of about it. I am very good with nootropics and supplements and know which work best. If someone were to explain to me in plain English what chemical imbalances are abnormal in pi-add patients and how the neurotransmitters work with each other to create the correct levels of dopamine and adrenaline. Knowing what chemicals or amino acids that need to be augmented in the neurochemical cycle, then we all can work to put together a pi-add supplement cycle and find the right chemical/herbal/vitamin/nootropics suppliers.



First of all, with the least amount of scientific jargon, I will try to explain what is missing with people that have PI-ADD.



We always lack a feeling of excitement/adrenaline which is needed for causing the right rush and circulation of the blood through the brain. If we were attacked by a guy with a knife, negotiating with the person will be the greatest adrenaline feeling that we can get. We will be engaged into his every word, but it doesnt necessarily mean we will stop thinking scattered, we will actually feel like we want to help the robber due to our want of feeling engaged into the thoughts of the robber, and getting a pi-add high when the robber knows that you acknowledge his helplessness. Now this is an extreme example, but I bet 90% of people with pi-add know what I am talking about. So from this example, what are we missing in our brains. Is it the dopamine that we need to feel good about ourselves and instead try to be resistant to the robber and yell for help? You see, since we lack the dopamine and we dont really have self appreciation we like to give out to people all the time and acknowledge their difficulties in attempt to get a high/stimulation from their mental suffering.



So when is it that we need adrenaline, and when is it that we need dopamine and how much? I dont know, but I bet with a lot of experimentation we will able to solve what natural precursors work to create the optimal neurochemical balance. Along with mental exercising and self-discipline, every single day we will able to overcome pi-add.



PI-ADD Problems



1) Lack of motivation and focus



- People with pi-add cannot do anything they do not like and avoid doing it with being in search of mental stimulation with random ideas and creative interests. If we tried to do something, say history HW, our eyes will wonder on the page and we will try to focus and may sometimes read a few sentences thinking that we are paying attention, but then realize that we didnt absorb or organize any words through our brain. Without a very strict mother or father, it is almost impossible for us to stay motivated and focus on what we need to do, so an external factor, such as an encouraging parent/friend/coach is needed for success. The external factor doesnt always work because usually it is our nervous system that is being stimulated to do all the work. Our nervous system is a temporary change in our behavior and focus. It is not a life-time solution. Our nervous system may actually be very hard to activate if we get too much sleep. 6 hours of sleep is usually the best for just enough physical rest, and getting our nervous system to release the proper chemicals that put us under stress, which when in bed help you stay in bed, but when going to class will help you stay focused.



2) Extreme Procrastinators



- We have an amazing ability to put things off until the very last minute. We get accused with just being lazy and not wanting to do it, in reality that is not the case, because we are not afraid of hard work. We are afraid of feeling like crap when we do a concentration imperative task. We are afraid of the enormous amount of mental energy and focus we need to exert over the task, and so we avoid the task as much as we could meanwhile feeling groggy/unstimulated when doing things that we like and that we enjoy, especially if the hobby is getting old. We usually will think of a bunch of new ways for things, micromanage, overanalyze, and will have trouble keeping consistent with one method. This sometimes is a plus because it results to hyper creativity. But, say you are a bodybuilder, and you developed a workout plan for yourself and after just one week you will get bored with it thinking that it wont give you results, and you will want to create your own new workout. That cycle will repeat with one new workout plan after another until you are 100% satisfied that the next workout plan your created will work with the least amount of energy spent doing it.



3) Inability to stay tuned with the conversation



- This is especially true if the talker talks too fast or too slow, monotonous, or just plain boring. If the topic is something you dont like or not know about, you will have an extremely hard time paying attention and organizing his points in your head. You will also forget what the person said very quickly. If you talk about something you like and know about, you will look like a smart *** or a know it all. Sometimes, you will blurt out dumb words sometimes and finish sentences halfway.



4) Poor social life



- Making friends is very hard with pi-add because when there is abundance of people engaging in conversation, you usually feel uninterested and bored or just cant focus on the topic, and by the time you understand what the topic is on and remember events that correlate with the topic, the topic changes and you go through that cycle ending up not sharing anything or speaking up making you seem anti-social when in reality you are not. Anti-social and social-difficulty are two different things. So as long as you are not anti-social, you can cure your social-difficulty.



5) Bad dating skills



- I think for a young guy, dating with pi-add is just impossible, and you better just focus on yourself and your future/existing career and try to be as much financially equipped as possible. Dont date other people with pi-add because you should be marrying a person without pi-add so your kids will be less likely to be born with it. Just in my honest, logical opinion. Also, taking care of your kids will be hard with pi-add so it is a must to have at least one normie parent. I will talk more about this topic later.



6) Lethargic, slow-moving, and feeling not fully awake



- This probably the most annoying symptoms of pi-add and sometimes it feels like you just dont want to live. Your creativity is only what temporary relieves your symptoms and it only works randomly. We cant control when we are creative and most of the time the creativity we put in something has to have a very good point to it so that we will want do it. This is why there are a lot of pi-add entrepreneurs because they always come up with ideas for daily annoyances. I hate when people rush me, and say that I am slow. 2 days ago I invented a foldable 3 ring binder with a flat ring technology for writing on the other side of every paper. Thanks to my pi-add. Yeah I stayed up until 6am, but it was worth it. I know that soon I will have the mental stimulation and pi-add creativity spike to make a business plan for it. Problem is I came up with 10 random products the past ten days. So, where ever my creativity spikes will take me at the time, I will finish a business plan for that specific product. Being a self-made millionaire is a huge relief for people with pi-add and you can concentrate on doing things you like instead of having a job that aggravates your pi-add symptoms



7) PI-ADD Associated depression



- Assuming that you are resolving your family problems and you are not depressed about your job or academics, curing the associated depression is not hard and all it takes is to take up a hobby and everyday build up on it, using you pi-add to your advantage. Usually, you will find out ways for making the hobby easier and sharing that creativity with people is rewarding.



PI-ADD Natural Solutions  Please help to add your own solutions in this thread



Mental Exercises

- Chess

- Wobble board, breathing, simulating - http://add-icanfocusnow.blogspot.com/



Taking up a Hobby

- Magic Tricks

http://magicvideodepot.com/

http://www.ellusionist.com/index.php , http://www.ellusionist.com/cart/category.php?cat=103

- Model airplanes

- Bodybuilding

www.elitefitness.com

- Chess

- Cooking

- Joke book reading

- Boxing

- Martial arts

- Wrestling

- Sport Motorcycling, Skateboarding, Rollerblading, Soccer, basketball, football, tennis



Supplements



This is what I am currently working on and only care for right now, because I think that supplements for the right price and the right kind can cure ADD and the drug industry knows about it and bribes the FDA to hide away all ADD clinical trials with natural substances, especially if the trials were successful. I bet that the one that were not successful are the only ones shown to the public making drugs seem like the only choice.



First off, let me start with nootropics. Piracetam has been discovered years ago accidentally and now has been deemed as effective and safe treating people with Alzheimers and Dementia all of which are similar to symptoms of pi-add. The dosage unfortunately is too high to see any noticeable effects and piracetam is water soluble making it very short lived. Recently, they came up with a piracetam fat soluble analog, called pramiracetam, which costs $60 for a 30 tablet bottle. It is 15-30 times more potent then piracetam and effects last for 6-8 hours. The effects in motivation, concentration, and enhanced memory are unquestionable and lately it has become a favorite amongst nootropics enthusiasts. One more nootropic is even more potent, but short-lived and works in great combination with pramiracetam. It is Oxiracetam, and just recently it was made affordable. You can buy the powder form at (URL Removed by Admin)





What supplements dont work for legitimate pi-add from my personal experience?



Gingko

Ginseng

Rhodiola Rosea

Piracetam

Caffeine

Kola nut

B-vitamins

GABA

Bacopa

Flax oil  (dont buy it for health purposes because it goes rancid and oxidizes very quickly, which is a direct correlation towards the production of free radicals. Besides the EPA content does not convert effectively toward DHA so stick with fish oil)





What supplements have a good purpose and a good possibility for relieving PI-ADD?



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Nootropics Pramiracetam Oxiracetam Centrophenoxine L-tyrosine Chocamine Phenylracetam

Here is a nootropics guide that I made a while ago, and I think it is the best guide you can find up to date. Please note that any nootropics that were found out to be ineffective through personal reviews and weak studies, I eliminated. You can purchase any of the nootropics below at (URLs Removed by Admin)



Imminst.org is a great forum website with a very good nootropic discussion section.



Memory, Focus, and Creativity (2 00 caps) daily morning & midday, pre-classwork



Alpha-GPC(400mg) - Water soluble form of choline that rapidly penetrates the blood brain barrier. It is more potent than other forms of choline (bitartrate, citrate, DMAE, phosphatidylcholine, CDP-Choline) for raising neurotransmitter, Acetylcholine, which helps in enhancing memory.

Oxiracetam(400mg)  Works faster than all other racetams. Boosts brain ATP levels (Mental Energy). Helps increase communication between your left and right sides of the brain, resulting in improved creativity, perception, and comprehension. Increase AchAT (Choline Acetylcholinetranferase) the neuro-enzyme that creates Acetylcholine (Memory Support). Has a more potent AMPA receptor enhancing effect than both Aniracetam and Piracetam, resulting in better focus, memory and concentration.

Pramiracetam(400mg)  15-30 times more potent fat soluble analogue of the orginal famous piracetam. Works for a longer time then oxiracetam.

Centrophenoxine(300mg)  Greatlypotent short term memory booster.

Phenylracetam (200mg)  Keeps you awake better then caffeine with no crash, effects last up to 8 hours



Motivation: daily pre-workout, pre-homework

N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine(500mg) - The enhanced, N-Acetylated for improved water solublity, neuroactive form of the amino acid L-Tyrosine. Precursor to neurotransmitter Dopamine responsible for mood and mental alertness and hormone T3 responsible for focus and concentration.

Chocamine(500mg) -Chocamine is a proprietary cocoa extract meant to provide the stimulation and health benefits of chocolate without any of the unnecessary, potentially unhealthy ingredients such as sugar and fat. Increased energy, appetite suppression for sweets, increased lipolysis (fat burning), improved mood, improved concentration, increased alertness, improved physical performance, aphrodisiac properties, and health benefits



Anti-Depression: when needed

5HTP(200mg) - The neurotransmitter, 5-hydroxy-tryptophan (5-HTP)is a compound created in the body which is used to regulate serotonin levels in brain and central nervous system Serotonin is a neurotransmitter which is responsible for mood, hunger, and sleep. 5-HTP is a known precursor to serotonin which has been proven in many studies. Overall, 5-HTP will provide benefits with regard to depression, blood pressure and minimal weight loss

ALCAR(1g) - The acetylated version of carnitine; Actyl-L-Carnitine (ALCAR) is absorbed by the gastrointestinal tract, enters cells and crosses the blood-brain barrier more readily than unacetylated carnitine, and is therefore more suitable as a nutritional supplement . Because L-carnitine is central to the formation of energy from fat, the heart is therefore dependent on L-carnitine for most of its energy production. L-Carnitine carries long-chain fatty acids into the mitochondria where they are oxidised for energy. Its ability to generate energy from fat makes carnitine useful as part of a weight management program. L-carnitine plus its metabolite, acetyl-L-carnitine, can treat symptoms of male ageing, including sexual dysfunction, depressed mood and fatigue.

Additional:

Deprenyl(5mg caps, 2-3 caps per week maximum for nootropic purposes)- Strong antidepressent. Has Potent NeuroAntioxidant & NeuroProtective effects by raising Brain SOD levels. Boosts PhenylEthylAmine levels 1300-3500%, which helps maintain focus, concentration, alertness and effortful attention .



Protection/Kicker:

R-ALA(200mg) - R-ALA (R-Isomer) is at least 3 times stronger and more effective than standard ALA. ALA neutralizes free radicals in both the fatty and watery regions of cells, in contrast to vitamin C (which is water soluble) and vitamin E (which is fat soluble). The body routinely converts some alpha-lipoic acid to dihydrolipoic acid, which appears to be an even more powerful antioxidant. Both forms of lipoic acid quench peroxynitrite radicals, an especially dangerous type consisting of both oxygen and nitrogen, Peroxynitrite radicals play a role in the development of atherosclerosis, lung disease, chronic inflammation, and neurological disorders. Alpha-lipoic acid also plays an important role in the synergism of antioxidants, sometime called the body's "antioxidant network." It directly recycles and extends the metabolic lifespans of vitamin C, glutathione, and coenzyme Q10, and it indirectly renews vitamin E. In Germany, alpha-lipoic acid is an approved medical treatment for peripheral neuropathy, a common complication of diabetes. It speeds the removal of glucose from the bloodstream, at least partly by enhancing insulin function, and it reduces insulin resistance, an underpinning of many cases of coronary heart disease and obesity. The therapeutic dose for lipoic acid is 600 mg/day. In the United States, it is sold as a dietary supplement, usually as 50 mg tablets. The richest food source of alpha-lipoic acid is red meat.

Idebenone(100mg)  Fat soluble, vastly improved form of the mitochondria potent anti-oxidant CoQ10 . Maintains youthful synapses, increases nerve growth factors, which boosts learning & memory. Stimulates the Corpus Callosum, an area of the brain that controls communication between the left and right hemispheres; increasing communication supports speech and creative thinking. Mood enhancer via increased serotonin release.







OverStimulation: - 3 times a week maximum due to tolerance build-up

GreenTea(500mg)  antisleep, temporary increase in strength and awareness

Phenibut(500mg)  prosocial, buzz feeling similar to alchohol, but contrarily neuro protective. Phenibut is usefull in anxiety reduction; specifically, phenibut reduces the fear response and increased aggression in a confrontational situation. Use up to 1g at night for dopamine elevation and in return inreased hgh. In the morning use up to 500mg for increased confidence and ability to deal with a multitude of situations calmly.



After reading this guide, you should become a nootropic expert. I will update as much as possible, adding a substance only if I notice exceptional popularity and effectiveness through researching and asking about other peoples experiences.



Now, which substances work best for pi-add and how should you take them? So far I came up with this cycle below.



Cycle A  4 weeks



7:00 AM

1g Alpha GPC

500mg Pramiracetam

500mg Oxiracetam

2g N-Acetyl-L-tyrosine

2g Chocamine

5mg Nicotine



1:00 PM

1g Alpha GPC

500mg Pramiracetam.

500mg Oxiracetam

2g N-Acetyl-L-tyrosine

2g Chocamine

5mg Nicotine



Cycle B  4 weeks



7:00 AM

1g Alpha GPC

500mg Pramiracetam

500mg Oxiracetam

2g N-Acetyl-L-tyrosine

2g Chocamine

10mg Ephedrine



1:00 PM

1g Alpha GPC

500mg Pramiracetam

500mg Oxiracetam

2g N-Acetyl-L-tyrosine

2g Chocamine

10mg Ephedrine



Cycle C  4 weeks



7:00 AM

1g Alpha GPC

500mg Pramiracetam

500mg Oxiracetam

2g N-Acetyl-L-tyrosine

2g Chocamine

2.5mg Deprenyl





1:00 PM

1g Alpha GPC

500mg Pramiracetam

500mg Oxiracetam

2g N-Acetyl-L-tyrosine

2g Chocamine

2.5mg Deprenyl



I am unsure whether to include the plant extract, mucuna pruriens, which is 99% natural L-dopa  a direct precursor to L-dopamine, due to the article below.



Since the 1960s, I had wanted to do the experiments detailed below on children with ADHD but felt one could not legitimately obtain fully informed consent to conduct invasive biological tests on children. Our studies of adults allowed us to conduct these experiments. The first was to investigate the level of HVA, the principal metabolite of dopamine, in the CSF of adults with ADHD and with controls. Such a study (Reimherr and others) found a decreased level of HVA in the adults with ADHD who responded to treatment with methylphenidate, and increased levels of HVA in nonresponding ADHD patients. This replicated the findings of two smaller studies in "hyperactive" children (Shetty and Chase) and of children with minimal brain dysfunction (Shaywitz and others).



The second technique was to administer pharmacological doses of the precursor amines of dopamine, namely phenylalanine, l-tyrosine, and l-dopa (Reimherr and others; Wood and others 1982, 1985). Our principal finding was that approximately half the patients receiving tyrosine experienced a moderate-to-marked improvement of their ADHD symptoms; phenylalanine and l-dopa did not have such an effect. These findings are post facto interpretable. Increasing phenylalanine or tyrosine should not increase dopamine. The primary metabolic chain is phenylala-nine(r)tyrosine(r)l-dopa(r)dopamine; and the conversion of tyrosine to l-dopa, which is catalyzed by the enzyme tyrosine hydroxylase, is the rate-limiting step in the formation of dopamine. On the basis of the enzyme kinetics, the observed clinical effectiveness of tyrosine could be explained by increasing tyramine, which would increase dopamine by an alternative metabolic pathway. The response to l-dopa was increased fatigue and a decreased ability to concentrate. This can be attributed to its acting as a false neurotransmitter (i.e., it could have been taken up by nondopaminergic neurons and might have displaced their transmitters and inactivated them). 



So L-dopa is not an effective way to increase dopamine levels. I dont understand whether l-tyrosine is effective or not based on the article, but I know from peoples experiences with it in terms of focus and prolonged concentration were quite successful so I will leave it in the cycle regimen.



The three stimulants that will be used to ensure awakeness will be ephedrine, nicotine, and deprenyl (selegiline) all of which can be bought on the internet. Your body adapts to any stimulants pretty quickly so cycling the three is the best solution for preventing addiction and keeping you stimulated for less.



Here is why I included selegiline http://www.ceri.com/deprenyl.htm



Currently, I am reading upon geranamine, an active constitute in geranium oil, which an effective precursor to adrenaline and similar to ephedrine and amphetamines. Read here - http://www.helplosefat.com/2006/06/16/geranamine/



I think that with the cycle I developed, most if not all pi-add symptoms will be cured within the first week. Please critique and argue what works and how effective it is for curing pi-add.



Everybody, please share your experiences with nootropics and other natural substances for effectively curing pi-add.



Thanks for reading, and I hope we can find the final, undisputed solution for pi-add.



Next chapter will be "Real Life with PI-ADD" stay tuned to this thread and make contributions when you can.