In response to Kidnapping, Torture, and Reflections on Alleged "American Values" I received many emails thanking me for my position. Here is one from Percy, whose father was an Army interrogator in WWII.



Percy writes ...

Hello Mish,



That was an excellent piece on torture. My dad, a German Jewish refugee, became a US Army interrogator during WWII. Torture was never even on the table; torture was what Nazis did. Moreover, he and his colleagues found that they got the best information through careful, often calculated, always humane questioning. His interrogations were effective and earned him promotions. He was appalled at the introduction of torture into American warfare and policy.



Percy Angress

Torture Doesn't Work

Whether torture can produce some truthful information has never been the right question. It can. But even if the victim of torture does provide some accurate information, there is no way to sift the truth from lies produced as the detainee merely tries to get interrogators to stop. There’s no way to know which lead is worth pursuing–risking human life and limited resources – and which should be disregarded. And by resorting to torture, experienced interrogators report, less truthful information can be produced than if traditional, lawful techniques were used. Results also come more slowly because detainees buckle down and resist. Former FBI interrogator Ali Soufan, who interrogated Abu Zubaydah among others, testified before Congress that the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques “are ineffective, slow, and unreliable, and as a result harmful to our efforts to defeat al Qaeda.”



National security is diminished by the false leads torture can produce, and devastating consequences may ensue. When Ibn Sheikh al Libi was tortured while in CIA custody, he claimed a link to Iraq and weapons of mass destruction that then-Secretary of State Colin Powell used in his speech to the United Nations to justify the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. Of course, as we now know, that information was utterly false.



Each time the U.S. has strayed from core values there have been national security consequences. Senior military officials report that foreign fighters joined the war in Iraq following the release of the Abu Ghraib abuse photos, and the continued existence of Guantanamo has been used as a recruiting tool for al Qaeda. Earlier this year when a detainee died at Guantanamo of apparently natural causes, the fact that it happened at Guantanamo made it a major focal point for anti-U.S. and militant propaganda. The Taliban issued a statement condemning the U.S. for violating international law and thousands attended his funeral in Afghanistan.



We will never know how much information the U.S. lost because it failed to use time-tested, effective, and humane methods of interrogation. We will never know how many years earlier bin Laden could have been captured and how many lives spared if, instead of whisking them off to a prison outside the law, the U.S. had instead charged Mohammed and al Libi in federal courts and treated them properly and in accordance with due process.



The best way to guard against future attack is by rejecting the use of torture outright and staying faithful to the rule of law and basic tenets of decency. This is true not only because it is the right thing to do, but because it works.

Liberty Defined

Your article is truly excellent. I am proud of you for writing it. It comes on a day when I have thought quite a lot about this subject and you have written much of what I have been thinking needs to be said.



I just finished listening to Ron Paul’s book Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues this morning. Although I do not agree with Paul on many things, his comments on torture and aggressive foreign policy are excellent. You should read the book and recommend it to your readers.

A Single Twisted, Tortured Email Response

Torture is just what it is supposed to be. A method of getting information in a hurry. Waterboarding is for ******. Cut off a finger, fry his ****, stick a needle up his ****, jerk off some fingernails like the Chinese and Koreans and Japanese did (probably still do). That’ll get results damn fast.



Man up Mish and get some cojones! Having a SPINE and enough gumption TO TORTURE a bad guy IS the AMERICAN WAY!



Steve R

Negative Results From Torture and Warmongering

Those Who Condone Torture are a Disgrace to the Constitution

Ron Paul on Torture and Secret Prisons

We do not need secret prisons, nor do we need the torture that goes on in these secret military prisons