In an interview with The Daily Show correspondent Jessica Williams, Harlem antigay pastor James David Manning was asked to clarify his statement from several years ago that insists Starbucks laces their lattes with “gay semen” to give them extra flavor. It was an opportunity to clean the slate that he ultimately did not choose to take.

“I think Starbucks has recognized that to flavor up their lattes that they are using semen to make that latte more flavorful,” he said.

“What empirical evidence do I have?” he asked, after prompting from a stultified Williams. “I think if you’re asking for that, you may not be able to find my explanation suitable to meet the empirical standards… but let’s just say I know.”

You can watch the whole excellent segment — which highlights several of the certifiable crackpots The Daily Show has interviewed over the years — right here: