Kid Cudi is the latest guest on Pharrell Williams and Scott Vener’s Beats 1 Radio show OTHERtone. He speaks on a variety of topics—drug use, his family, working at BAPE in Manhattan—and sings some rough hooks he wrote with Kanye West and Jay Z during the Blueprint 3 sessions.

During the interview, Cudi tells a familiar tale about Kanye calling him down to Hawaii to the studio. “We were like, ‘Oh, it’s for Jay, let’s talk about that dope boy shit, let’s make a theme for that dope boy in the kitchen,” he says in the interview. He sings part of one hook around the 6 minute mark:

Cooking up in the kitchen

Young boy had that vision

Had to get with it

Cudi ended up on “Already Home” off of B3 but the specific melody he sings during his OTHERtone interview eventually turned into his hook on Kanye’s “Welcome To Heartbreak.”

On the 808s & Heartbreak song, he sings:

And my head keeps spinning

I can’t stop having these visions

I gotta get with it

In past interviews with a number of Ye collaborators, it’s been revealed that 808s & Heartbreak was birthed out of Blueprint 3 sessions in Hawaii. During a 2014 interview on Juan Epstein, No I.D. revealed just how much of an impact those sessions had on Ye.

“The 808 records came out of doing The Blueprint 3 records,“ he says on the podcast. "As a matter of fact, when we did “Heartless,” [Kanye] just stopped and said, ‘No.’ I was like, ‘No what?’ He was like, ‘No way. This is my record.’ I was like, ‘Come on man. Can we just finish the guy’s album man?’ He was like, ‘Nope. I’m doing an album.‘”

In an interview from 2009 with Jasiri X, No I.D. compared the two projects and teased what Blueprint 3 would sound like.

“I’m gonna say we were doing Blueprint 3 when we did ‘Heartless,’” he said. “’Heartless’ made 808s & Heartbreak happen and all that is related but everything in Blueprint 3 is like 808s and Heartbreak but more hip-hop. They’re related and then Jay brings it around to make it hip-hop credible."

But Kanye made his impact on Blueprint 3 as well. In fact, he gave Jay Z the idea to do “D.O.A..” In a 2012 interview with Complex, Young Guru explained that a two-hour convo in the studio about the state of hip-hop led to “D.O.A.”:

“Soulja Boy’s record was popping at the time. He becomes the antithesis to what we’re talking about, so we’re referencing him. We’re not saying Soulja Boy is wack but we’re like, ‘Jay is 40. This is what’s going on in hip-hop right now. We can’t do this.’ That’s how ‘D.O.A.’ came about because Kanye was getting on his rant. People think Jay did that, but Kanye was the person that told him to do that. Kanye was like, ‘No, Jay, you’re 40-something, you need to be the anti to all this other shit that’s going on. You need to be like, ‘No, fuck Auto-Tune and all of that.’”

You can watch more of this episode of OTHERTone on Beats 1 this Sunday, July 10.