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dreadlock86 interesting stats courtesy of the Complete-o-meter



1. TX 250

2. CA 197

3. WI 193

4. MN 179

5. IA 174

6. MI 173

7. IL 170

8. NC 145

9. OH 144

10. KS 115





Kansas was a big surprise to me. TX and CA are obvious but the northern midwest states have it locked down!

Colorado barely misses the top 10 with 112.



it would be interesting to see stats compiled that include extinct courses.



also, all these states except KS have more courses than any other country in the world.

Top Countries outside US

1. Sweden 128

2. Canada 127

3. Finland 118





anyone else have any cool stats? or just want to shout out at your state in the top 10...

dreadlock86 i consider myself lucky, having lived in both CA and TX :D

DiscNutt123 Everything is bigger in Texas!

Cygnus Don't feel like looking but Oregon would probably havequite a few

Mysticfalcon Id be curious to see it go by state with the most courses by area. Those states are all quite a bit bigger than Vermont

sillybizz Don't feel like looking but Oregon would probably havequite a few



Not really. There are a lot around Portland and Albany but remember Eastern Oregon has like 5 courses or something. Oregon only has a couple more than Washington, maybe like 10 at most and we don't have very many. Ah hell I'll look it up..

giles seems like they are all centered around Denver in Colorado. I also know that in states like CO they probably have a large number or private or renegade courses we don't have listed.

sillybizz Not really. There are a lot around Portland and Albany but remember Eastern Oregon has like 5 courses or something. Oregon only has a couple more than Washington, maybe like 10 at most and we don't have very many. Ah hell I'll look it up..



Holy crap Washington has more! I didn't know that! Washington has 79 and Oregon has 77. I guess all those Eastern Washington courses help.

ZDotHalbach Wisconsin sitting in third! Oh ya

Jukeshoe IL has so many because of the multitude of dinky little niners in Chicago.



More is not always better. :)

HarkeyPuck Courses per square mile would be a nice stat.



Not it!

harr0140 While the quality of courses in Northern Illinois isn't that great . . . i would sure like to randomly pick a 9 holer each day and play something different. I actually just did a blog entry about Northern Illinois when I played 8 courses down there and my next entry is about 9 more 9 holers I played 2 weeks later. check it out if you are interested . . .www.thediscgolfexperience.com :) End Plug!

mashnut A good chunk of my courses played are in Illinois and Wisconsin, the area surrounding lake Michigan is pretty dense.

drickanderson 16 in my state .. :(

sillybizz 16 in my state .. :(



Yeah but you have prostitution, lol.

atay87 I did some calculations and came up with list ordered by course density for the state. The value represents number of courses per 1000 square miles.



1 *Delaware 6.143

2 *Massachusetts 3.699

3 *Wisconsin 3.554

4 *Ohio 3.517

5 *Connecticut 3.509

6 *Iowa 3.114

7 *Illinois 3.058

8 *Michigan 3.046

9 *North Carolina 2.977

10 *New Jersey 2.696

11 *Indiana 2.565

12 *Vermont 2.487

13 *Maryland 2.456

14 *Pennsylvania 2.432

15 *South Carolina 2.391

16 *Minnesota 2.248

17 *Kentucky 1.913

18 *New Hampshire 1.896

19 *Virginia 1.793

20 *Tennessee 1.723

21 *Florida 1.613

22 *Kansas 1.406

23 *New York 1.398

24 *Maine 1.361

25 *California 1.263

26 *Mississippi 1.215

27 *Georgia 1.192

28 *Washington 1.187

29 *Missouri 1.161

30 *Oklahoma 1.092

31 *Hawaii 1.090

32 *Colorado 1.080

33 *West Virginia 0.997

34 *Rhode Island 0.957

35 *Texas 0.955

36 *Alabama 0.828

37 *Oregon 0.792

38 *Nebraska 0.768

39 *Idaho 0.665

40 *Arkansas 0.653

41 *Louisiana 0.597

42 *South Dakota 0.527

43 *North Dakota 0.478

44 *Utah 0.353

45 *Arizona 0.334

46 *New Mexico 0.288

47 *Wyoming 0.278

48 *Montana 0.254

49 *Nevada 0.137

50 *Alaska 0.042

AdamE Larges states have the advantage when it comes to most courses. Number of courses per square mile is a different story entirely.



While I was looking this up, others beat me to it.

sillybizz Courses per square mile would be a nice stat.



Not it!



Someone did that a while ago but I can't remember who it was or which thread. I would guess living in Alaska or Wyoming would be tough if you liked disc golf.

Mbagnola1 I didn't expect Wisconsin and Illinois to make the top 10. Like Jukeshoe said more is not always better. Lots of the niners out here I feel no need to go back to

sillybizz Nevermind I got beat to it.

Sadjo I know there have been posts in the past about smaller communities and the amount of holes per population. I'm always interested in the smaller communities that have lots of courses.



Iowa is mostly made up of farming communities and lot of those small towns have several courses. Heck, Oconee County, SC, where I live have 4 18-hole courses and a 9-hole course with another 18 and two other 9-hole courses being installed this spring.

emook we kind of have an advantage seeing that our state is 10 times bigger than most states.

harr0140 Stevewestdiscgolf.com is a cool site for this type of info



http://stevewestdiscgolf.com/Documents/DGersin48.jpg Where disc golfers live



http://stevewestdiscgolf.com/MostCoursesWithinXMiles.aspx Most courses in X miles

harr0140 Where courses are in demand http://stevewestdiscgolf.com/Demand.aspx

Fishy seems like they are all centered around Denver in Colorado. I also know that in states like CO they probably have a large number or private or renegade courses we don't have listed.



exactly! :D



I know of at least 4 that aren't on the site. And those are within 50 miles of me, I'm sure there are more. There is also a new amazing course going in near PF and BR.. from the video I am guessing it'll (they'll) be an easy top 10 in the next couple of years.



here (https://picasaweb.google.com/105881636832369582884/Movies02?authkey=Gv1sRgCO65zP6R3bjbkgE#56927975909 66782274) is the link to the video.. thank you klay for pointing it out to me

kyflash I would like to see a list that shows how courses are proportioned to population of each state.

Martin Dewgarita How about quality, number of 3+ rated courses per state?

Tucker33 221 courses within 150 miles of my house. Not to bad.

Fishy How about quality, number of 3+ rated courses per state?



colorado has 53 that are 3 or above.. that's almost 50% of the courses..

Tucker33 Doing a quick search KY has 47 3+ courses. I am very lucky to live in the cincy area.

scarpfish I've said this before on here and I'll say it again. The way courses seem to proliferate has more to do with the people of a region making demand for them, and very little to do with state lines that were drawn a good 100-200 years before disc golf every came about. Look inside many states and even in ones with lots of courses, you'll generally see hot spots and dead spots, and in cities that are good disc golf meccas, courses will be plenty, even in ones that have a state line going through them. Places like Kansas City, Cincinnati and Charlotte come to mind where you have good courses on both sides of their respective state lines.



So I don't put much stock into a state vs. state measuring stick, or even a per capita, or per square mile one, because things that have nothing to do with disc golf tend to skewer the results.

Tucker33 Within 50 miles of my house 21 3+. 5 4+. This includes ky, oh, in.

atay87 Ordered by most courses per person. The value is the number courses per 100,000 people.



1 *Iowa 5.682

2 *South Dakota 4.854

3 *North Dakota 4.825

4 *Wyoming 4.752

5 *Kansas 4.005

6 *Montana 3.707

7 *Vermont 3.672

8 *Idaho 3.470

9 *Wisconsin 3.379

10 *Minnesota 3.349

11 *Alaska 3.321

12 *Nebraska 3.202

13 *Maine 3.162

14 *Colorado 2.189

15 *Oklahoma 1.978

16 *Oregon 1.963

17 *Mississippi 1.914

18 *Michigan 1.752

19 *Kentucky 1.739

20 *New Mexico 1.681

21 *South Carolina 1.539

22 *North Carolina 1.502

23 *Indiana 1.412

24 *Missouri 1.331

25 *Delaware 1.323

26 *Illinois 1.321

27 *West Virginia 1.294

28 *New Hampshire 1.290

29 *Ohio 1.247

30 *Arkansas 1.157

31 *Washington 1.157

32 *Tennessee 1.109

33 *Utah 1.029

34 *Texas 0.974

35 *Virginia 0.877

36 *Alabama 0.875

37 *Pennsylvania 0.855

38 *Georgia 0.703

39 *Arizona 0.586

40 *Louisiana 0.568

41 *Nevada 0.551

42 *California 0.523

43 *Hawaii 0.509

44 *Connecticut 0.475

45 *Florida 0.457

46 *Massachusetts 0.440

47 *Maryland 0.412

48 *New York 0.339

49 *New Jersey 0.227

50 *Rhode Island 0.095

mashnut With just a quick look, that list doesn't look surprising at all, lower population densities and lots of open land in all those at the top of the list.

Cgkdisc One factor that works against a state is shoreline boundaries. Typically, your bigger population centers are on coastlines. The coastal border for a city wipes out around 1/3 of the suburban area where more courses typically get located. Note how well course development goes in areas where suburbs completely surround the city center like the Twin Cities, KC, DFW, Charlotte, Cincy, Des Moines. Compare that with the relatively low course development around coastal cities like L.A., S.F., Baltimore, Boston, Miami. Plus, shoreline property anywhere is typically higher value and less likely to be available for DG courses.



In light of that, Michigan's DG development is pretty impressive with its position on the chart above considering all of its shoreline. But you can see California and Florida with lots of shoreline cities are pretty low on the course density chart.

duckkiller73 there are countless private courses not listed here. I looked in one city where i have played a couple of private courses in indiana, and not one was listed and I know there are 4 within 10 minutes of one another. When I played there, I played with the guy who owned one and he said that he knew of at least 25 private courses in north central indiana. I can only imagine how many courses there really are in the U.S. but I can't complain because I live within 25 minutes of 8-10 GREAT public courses.

Disc Scooter Yay for NC, we got more coming!

mashnut One factor that works against a state is shoreline boundaries. Typically, your bigger population centers are on coastlines. The coastal border for a city wipes out around 1/3 of the suburban area where more courses typically get located. Note how well course development goes in areas where suburbs completely surround the city center like the Twin Cities, KC, DFW, Charlotte, Cincy, Des Moines. Compare that with the relatively low course development around coastal cities like L.A., S.F., Baltimore, Boston, Miami. Plus, shoreline property anywhere is typically higher value and less likely to be available for DG courses.



In light of that, Michigan's DG development is pretty impressive with its position on the chart above considering all of its shoreline. But you can see California and Florida with lots of shoreline cities are pretty low on the course density chart.



There's a lot of undeveloped or lightly populated coastline in Michigan and Wisconsin.

Cgkdisc Where the coastline impacts Minnesota is the 10,000 lakes. You would think we'd have more water hazards here. But that shoreline land is more valuable and we have few water hazards on our courses. The one on my home course is artificial as a rain run-off pool.

ejvogie Everything is bigger in Texas!



http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/alaska/20711d1212346520-planning-trip-alaska-vs-texas.gif

Bardu Which metro areas have the most disc golf courses?

The dude on the bike West Michigan has quite a few courses.

harr0140 Bardu . . . I know this has been discussed on here before too . . . but I dont like searching either.



Minneapolis/St. Paul has to be one of the most courses

Charlotte NC has got to be up there now

Quad Cities in Iowa/IL is decent

Appleton (although not a major metro area) has quite a few

Chicago stretches really far and has an abundance of crappy courses but a lot of courses

Dallas/Ft. Worth has a lot of choices

Bowling Green KY is also plentiful for a small town



Tho are the main places I have been to

Green Aarrow In Wisconsin, it's definitely a matter of quantity vs. quality. Plenty of crappy nine-holers, some six-holers, an object course or two, etc. The tide is turning, though, and it seems like every new course going in brings up the overall average for the state.



It's also reflective of Wisconsin, in that we work hard and play hard. We gravitate towards activities where we can party as well as play. Probably why we have all those short, fun courses. Thankfully it's gotten to be mainstream enough that it's pushing the new course designers.

MacDaddy Any data on the top ten states for new courses in the gound last year? :)

Horsman We are spoiled here in Wisconsin. We have the Highest rated park system in the nation and it shows in our disc golf courses. Almost every part of the state has a course and I believe that we have the greatest disc golf place in the world in Highbridge Hills Disc Golf Mecca. That place is awesome and also has a legit par 6, everyone needs to ry it out

basketcase15 im with horsey

mashnut We are spoiled here in Wisconsin. We have the Highest rated park system in the nation and it shows in our disc golf courses. Almost every part of the state has a course and I believe that we have the greatest disc golf place in the world in Highbridge Hills Disc Golf Mecca. That place is awesome and also has a legit par 6, everyone needs to ry it out



Wisconsin parks seem more willing to put in real courses with interesting and challenging holes as opposed to the poorly designed pitch n putt courses in most of the public parks here in northern Illinois.

EeBeKay i would have never guessed that the cheese heads have more courses than us minnesotans...

lion 205 course in California if you add the practice courses and I do. Someone do a revised list and add the practice courses to the total. Does Wisconsin beat California? Might get interesting.

Skunk Which metro areas have the most disc golf courses?







This is a great question. I haven't done the research but I'd say that the Chicagoland area would be in the running.

harr0140 205 course in California if you add the practice courses and I do. Someone do a revised list and add the practice courses to the total. Does Wisconsin beat California? Might get interesting.

It doesn't matter. . .we have the original "practice" course. . .Kops Park.

humchris85 Even with how many CA has it still feels like we could use to have alot more. We're a big state and there are alot of areas I drive around here in Nor-Cal that should have courses, but don't. The area that I grew up in would be great for some golf, but they only have one small one at the school there.

mashnut This is a great question. I haven't done the research but I'd say that the Chicagoland area would be in the running.



Depends on how far out you consider Chicago, you could go either way on the Joliet courses and that's a big chunk of the total around here.

Cgkdisc It used to be when you entered a zip code, a Twin Cities zip would produce the most courses within X miles (try mine 55077, 67 within 50 mi). But Chicagoland (try 60517, 84 within 50 mi) now seems to have the top course count zips even if all of the courses listed aren't in Chicago and suburbs.

mashnut Hey now, we have two courses actually in Chicago...:\

Matthew boals there are countless private courses not listed here. I looked in one city where i have played a couple of private courses in indiana, and not one was listed and I know there are 4 within 10 minutes of one another. When I played there, I played with the guy who owned one and he said that he knew of at least 25 private courses in north central indiana. I can only imagine how many courses there really are in the U.S. but I can't complain because I live within 25 minutes of 8-10 GREAT public courses.



P.M. Me the locations PLEASE!

DiscNutt123 The Dallas/Fort Worth metro easily has 60+ within 50 miles.

Tolbert I did some calculations and came up with list ordered by course density for the state. The value represents number of courses per 1000 square miles.



1 *Delaware 6.143

2 *Massachusetts 3.699

3 *Wisconsin 3.554

4 *Ohio 3.517

5 *Connecticut 3.509

6 *Iowa 3.114

7 *Illinois 3.058

8 *Michigan 3.046

9 *North Carolina 2.977

10 *New Jersey 2.696

11 *Indiana 2.565

12 *Vermont 2.487

13 *Maryland 2.456

14 *Pennsylvania 2.432

15 *South Carolina 2.391

16 *Minnesota 2.248

17 *Kentucky 1.913

18 *New Hampshire 1.896

19 *Virginia 1.793

20 *Tennessee 1.723

21 *Florida 1.613

22 *Kansas 1.406

23 *New York 1.398

24 *Maine 1.361

25 *California 1.263

26 *Mississippi 1.215

27 *Georgia 1.192

28 *Washington 1.187

29 *Missouri 1.161

30 *Oklahoma 1.092

31 *Hawaii 1.090

32 *Colorado 1.080

33 *West Virginia 0.997

34 *Rhode Island 0.957

35 *Texas 0.955

36 *Alabama 0.828

37 *Oregon 0.792

38 *Nebraska 0.768

39 *Idaho 0.665

40 *Arkansas 0.653

41 *Louisiana 0.597

42 *South Dakota 0.527

43 *North Dakota 0.478

44 *Utah 0.353

45 *Arizona 0.334

46 *New Mexico 0.288

47 *Wyoming 0.278

48 *Montana 0.254

49 *Nevada 0.137

50 *Alaska 0.042





Delaware!! And of the full 18 hole courses only 1 is rated below 3 (Bellvue at 2.5) Get Some

prestonkuke21 I'd be willing to bet that Dallas/Ft. Worth has the most in one metro area.

prestonkuke21 I just counted 62 in DFW that are listed on here.

Cgkdisc I believe the ranking for cities has been Chicago, Twin Cities, DFW for quite a while using zip search and 50 or 100 miles.

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