So you see all the time people saying you should work with teams that make you feel stupid, have better programmers than you, etc. With people saying once they don't feel like that they move to somewhere better. This sounds like something I want. However I seem to move from company to company and never experiencing this. I've ended up in charge of all things technical twice. (Out of 4 jobs) I've just moved to one company that is well respected in the community, so much so when people hear I joined they often say congratulations. Yet still, I'm not getting that feeling that I'm surrounded by better developers. So can you do if you want the challenge of working with really smart developers but seem to have bad luck in finding companies?