That Time Del Bigtree Admitted He Manipulates Folks and Their Fears of Vaccines

If you work to correct the misinformation about vaccines that is out there, at some point, you wonder if the very vocal anti-vaccine folks who are pushing anti-vaccine talking points really believe any of this stuff.

Del Bigtree admits to misusing VAERS reports.

I mean, do they really believe that vaccines don’t work or that pediatricians get million dollar vaccine bonuses?

That Time Del Bigtree Admitted He Manipulates Folks and Their Fears of Vaccines

It seems that we got an answer this week with a new edition of Fault Lines, The Viral Threat: Measles and Misinformation.

Our latest @AJFaultLines delves into the debate over vaccines. In this clip I sat down with one of the leading voices in the anti-vax movement, Del Bigtree. This is 2 mins of what was a long & difficult discussion. Find a link to the whole episode pinned at the top of my feed. pic.twitter.com/gxTb59iDM1 — Josh Rushing (@joshrushing) May 22, 2019

In this interview with John Rushing, Del Bigtree admits that he understands that reports to VAERS do not imply causation.

He knows that when he talks about 400 reported vaccine deaths on his show, it doesn’t really mean that 400 people died from vaccine injuries. He knows that they aren’t confirmed vaccine deaths, even though he never says that on his show.

John Rushing: The numbers the way you’re using them though, it implicitly warns against using them that way. Del Bigtree: Yeah. Yes. John Rushing: You’re saying that there are 412 deaths last year. Del Bigtree: I – no. What I’m saying is there’s 412 reported deaths. I never said there were 412 confirmed deaths reported. John Rushing: So, so some of those causes of death on VAERS Del Bigtree: Yeah. John Rushing: one was a drowning. Del Bigtree: Sure. John Rushing: One was from co-sleeping. One was from a pre-existing heart condition. There’s no – because a death is reported in VAERS – there’s no way to show causation to the vaccine. Del Bigtree: Okay. John Rushing: But in watching your speech and watching your show – man, you would come away thinking 400 people died from vaccines last year. Del Bigtree: Okay. John Rushing: And then I can start to see Del Bigtree: Okay. John Rushing: where they get the number. And then I go to the source and the source says “don’t use the number that way.” The Viral Threat: Measles and Misinformation

Do you believe that there really were 400 vaccine deaths last year?

Now you know why…

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