Teddyman Profile Joined October 2008 Finland 362 Posts Last Edited: 2010-09-16 00:09:58 #1 Mod Edit: GSL Spoilers in this thread



(This might belong in custom maps, but I think the issue here is a more general one and maps are just the solution. Mods can move the thread if they feel otherwise.)



After seeing today's GSL games I thought the spying of match histories might be a huge issue for current and future leagues. Since Blizzard doesn't want to give the option to hide our score screen and builds in any kind of game, I experimented a bit with the map editor. Sure enough it just took a few simple changes to break the score screen so that your strategies remain hidden. I did it for all the 1v1 ladder maps except Delta Quadrant, which I didn't manage to find the original map file for (added DQ now). The maps are currently published on EU and US and you can find them by going to Multiplayer -> Create Game and typing "BO hider" in the search box. If someone wants to make hidden versions of other maps, here are the quick instructions:



+ Show Spoiler + 1) Open the map file in editor.

2) Map -> Map Info and set the new name/author/description, copy to all locales.

3) Map -> Game Variants, add a variant with name "Hidden build" or something, get rid of the other variants.

4) Data Editor (F7), Set Data Type to Score Results.

5) Click Build Order and make a change to the data on the right side, like checking the Hidden checkbox.

6) Back on the left side on the screen, right click Build Order and select Remove Object.

7) Repeat 5 and 6 for Economy Breakdown, Units and Graphs.

8) Click Standard on the left side, then on the right side under Headers delete everything except Score Summary.

9) Save your map. File -> Publish, login to bnet if needed, set the parameters correctly (like Release: Private or Public, Locked/Unlocked).

10) Click Ok, accept the terms and let the map upload.



What happens when someone wants to view that match in your match history (also what you see after game):





Here's a link to the maps themselves, you DON'T need to download this if you play on EU or US

http://www.mediafire.com/?az8ntpotbjhnpiv



If you have questions or find something that I screwed up (or a better way to do this) post them here. (This might belong in custom maps, but I think the issue here is a more general one and maps are just the solution. Mods can move the thread if they feel otherwise.)After seeing today's GSL games I thought the spying of match histories might be a huge issue for current and future leagues. Since Blizzard doesn't want to give the option to hide our score screen and builds in any kind of game, I experimented a bit with the map editor. Sure enough it just took a few simple changes to break the score screen so that your strategies remain hidden. I did it for all the 1v1 ladder maps(added DQ now). The mapsand you can find them by going to Multiplayer -> Create Game and typingin the search box. If someone wants to make hidden versions of other maps, here are the quick instructions:What happens when someone wants to view that match in your match history (also what you see after game):Here's a link to the maps themselves,If you have questions or find something that I screwed up (or a better way to do this) post them here. "Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004

hubfub Profile Blog Joined December 2007 Australia 351 Posts #2 wow you are FAST... so so fast at coming up with these

Noxie Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 2188 Posts #3 Very interesting.. thanks for sharing!



I know a few players that as soon as they see who they are playing in a tournament will go to that players match history and start lurking and see what they are practicing against certain matchups. As unfair as this is.. its available to everyone.. I am not necessarily convinced this is something blizz should take out of the game.

Plexa Profile Blog Joined October 2005 Aotearoa 38208 Posts Last Edited: 2010-09-15 13:55:18 #4 might save pros shelling out for a practice account Awesomemight save pros shelling out for a practice account Administrator ~ Spirit will set you free ~

Coufu Profile Joined July 2010 Guam 137 Posts Last Edited: 2010-09-15 13:56:47 #5



Edit: NM I just realized this is for people who are spying on your games. Hopefully this helps any future readers with any confusion Very interesting, but wouldn't someone who wanted to know your build order be able to find out anyway by watching the replay?Edit: NM I just realized this is for people who are spying on your games. Hopefully this helps any future readers with any confusion

Yenticha Profile Joined July 2010 256 Posts #6 That's brilliant! Thanks a lot, I hated the whole idea of this spying thing!

Wolf Profile Blog Joined April 2010 Korea (South) 3276 Posts #7 Excellent find. I think people will be using this quite a bit. Commentator http://twitter.com/proxywolf

JaspluR Profile Joined April 2010 Australia 174 Posts #8 sick, this is going to be used heaps lol..

StarBrift Profile Joined January 2008 Sweden 1720 Posts #9 On September 15 2010 22:55 Plexa wrote:

Awesome might save pros shelling out for a practice account Awesomemight save pros shelling out for a practice account



Indeed. Especially as famous players might get outed pretty quickly and have to spend even more moeny on new accounts. Indeed. Especially as famous players might get outed pretty quickly and have to spend even more moeny on new accounts.

emperorchampion Profile Blog Joined December 2008 Switzerland 4349 Posts #10 Cool TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over

Lejving Profile Joined March 2010 Sweden 78 Posts #11 Teddyman is so awesome, gj

NeoLearner Profile Blog Joined January 2010 Belgium 1786 Posts #12



Guess it will save the pro's for having to ask their mother, brother, ex-babysitter and dogwalker for their Korean ID's to register on the KR ladder... Awesome idea, hadn't even realized that was possible. Lightning fast alsoGuess it will save the pro's for having to ask their mother, brother, ex-babysitter and dogwalker for their Korean ID's to register on the KR ladder... Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation

Hikari Profile Blog Joined May 2010 1914 Posts #13 Good job. I hope this will get more popular among progamers.

Teddyman Profile Joined October 2008 Finland 362 Posts #14 Just noticed that this also ruins replays - you don't get a replay saved anywhere after playing a game on one of these maps. If someone figures out a way to do this and keep replays working, it would be great. In addition, I don't know if this prevents your computer from getting the data for the game or if it just doesn't show it. In the latter case it would theoretically be possible to use a packet sniffer to see the builds anyway.



Does anyone have the map file name (in the b.net cache) or download site for Delta Quadrant? "Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004

illumination Profile Joined August 2010 Korea (South) 248 Posts #15 only works if you play it with practice partners. Problem is alot of players like IdrA play ladder to practice so obviously this isn't useful to him Welcome to TL - Where Terran have been teaching the Zerg / Toss pros how to play since Patch 11

Liquid`TLO Profile Blog Joined March 2010 Germany 754 Posts #16

That stuff would be pretty good for the whole house here

Is it possible for somebody to post the already changed maps?That stuff would be pretty good for the whole house here Team Liquid alea iacta est

ven Profile Blog Joined December 2008 Germany 327 Posts #17 He already posted the source maps. I reckon someone would just have to download and then publish them on your realm via the map editor. You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.

Ketara Profile Blog Joined August 2010 United States 5924 Posts #18 This is totally yet another thing that you should have sent to TLO and told us about after the GSL was over http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498

PlaGuE_R Profile Blog Joined February 2010 France 1150 Posts Last Edited: 2010-09-16 00:43:55 #19 On September 16 2010 00:16 Liquid`TLO wrote:

Is it possible for somebody to post the already changed maps?

That stuff would be pretty good for the whole house here

Is it possible for somebody to post the already changed maps?That stuff would be pretty good for the whole house here



TLO u feeling better?? hope so



on topic: I think this is really great as that whole spying thing seems really cheap and annoying,

+ Show Spoiler + and im pretty sure thats wat lost IdrA game 2



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Edit: spoilered the GSL spoiler, my bad, apologize, won't happen again TLO u feeling better?? hope soon topic: I think this is really great as that whole spying thing seems really cheap and annoying,Edit: spoilered the GSL spoiler, my bad, apologize, won't happen again TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win

Ursadon-n-Pals Profile Blog Joined November 2009 United States 927 Posts #20 Now that is pretty awesome. It's great for those who are practicing in clans/houses.

Great job. Nothing worth having comes easy.

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