

Forgive me if this has been posted, but I haven't seen it. I actually meant to post this sooner, but it slipped my mind. (Sorry )





It almost seems like the DEA is getting sneaky. The gave notice last month of their intent to Emergency Schedule a new wave of cathinone-derivatives into Schedule I, near the end of this month. A separate notice was made regarding a list of new cannabinoids that will be temporarily placed into schedule I. I "love" how they can do this shit without requiring a press release or something. They should be required to adequately "warn" the public, and I find their methods to be sneaky and dishonest, IMHO.





WARNING These cannabinoids are already scheduled !!!





https://www.federalregister.gov/ articles/2014/02/10/2014-02848/sc hedules-of-controlled-substances- temporary-placement-of-four-synth etic-cannabinoids-into-schedule







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The Deputy Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is issuing this final order to temporarily schedule four synthetic cannabinoids into schedule I pursuant to the temporary scheduling provisions of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The substances are:



Quinolin-8-yl 1-pentyl-1 H-indole-3-carboxylate (PB-22; QUPIC);



quinolin-8-yl 1-(5-fluoropentyl)-1 H-indole-3-carboxylate (5-fluoro-PB-22; 5F-PB-22);



N-(1-amino-3-methyl-1-oxobutan-2 -yl)-1-(4-fluorobenzyl)-1 H-indazole-3-carboxamide (AB-FUBINACA);



and N-(1-amino-3,3-dimethyl-1-oxobut an-2-yl)-1-pentyl-1 H-indazole-3-carboxamide (ADB-PINACA).



This action is based on a finding by the Deputy Administrator that the placement of these synthetic cannabinoids and their optical, positional, and geometric isomers, salts and salts of isomers into schedule I of the CSA is necessary to avoid an imminent hazard to the public safety. As a result of this order, the regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal sanctions applicable to schedule I controlled substances will be imposed on persons who handle (manufacture, distribute, import, export, engage in research, conduct instructional activities, and possess), or propose to handle these synthetic cannabinoids.













https://www.federalregister.gov/ articles/2014/01/28/2014-01172/sc hedules-of-controlled-substances- temporary-placement-of-10-synthet ic-cathinones-into-schedule-i







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The Deputy Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is issuing this notice of intent to temporarily schedule 10 synthetic cathinones into schedule I pursuant to the temporary scheduling provisions of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The 10 substances are:



(1) 4-methyl-N-ethylcathinone (“4-MEC”);



(2) 4-methyl-alpha-pyrrolidinopropio phenone (“4-MePPP”);



(3) alpha-pyrrolidinopentiophenone (“α-PVP”);



(4) 1-(1,3-benzodioxol-5-yl)-2-(meth ylamino)butan-1-one (“butylone”);



(5) 2-(methylamino)-1-phenylpentan-1 -one (“pentedrone”);



(6) 1-(1,3-benzodioxol-5-yl)-2-(meth ylamino)pentan-1-one (“pentylone”);



(7) 4-fluoro-N-methylcathinone (“4-FMC”);



(8) 3-fluoro-N-methylcathinone (“3-FMC”);



(9) 1-(naphthalen-2-yl)-2-(pyrrolidi n-1-yl)pentan-1-one (“naphyrone”); and



(10) alpha-pyrrolidinobutiophenone (“α-PBP”).



This action is based on a finding by the Deputy Administrator that the placement of these synthetic cathinones into schedule I of the CSA is necessary to avoid an imminent hazard to the public safety. Any final order will be published in the Federal Register and may not be effective prior to February 27, 2014. Any final order will impose the administrative, civil, and criminal sanctions and regulatory controls applicable to schedule I substances under the CSA on the manufacture, distribution, possession, importation, exportation, research, and conduct of instructional activities of these synthetic cathinones.









The cannabinoids are temp scheduled as of yesterday.



The cathinone derivatives should be "final" by the end of this month. 27th, 28th or so. I believe the notice, filed on the 28th of January, specifies 30 days. How exactly they calculate that, I do not know, but they should post a "final notice" when it happens, like the one for the cannabinoids above.







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While I am vehemntly against the drug war I am glad that this is being done. Now that all the current popular RCs are banned (with the exception MXE, thank goodness) we will start to see an ENTIRE new class of drugs.



Fuck this is interesting.



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quite honestly im very happy a-pvp users cant legally obtain that vile chemical now.





every regular apvp user should get shot and put in a mass grave.



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What's wrong with a-pvp use out of curiosity?



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Fuck the DEA. Weed is going to be legal in most states in a few years anyway.



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While I am vehemntly against the drug war I am glad that this is being done. Now that all the current popular RCs are banned (with the exception MXE, thank goodness) we will start to see an ENTIRE new class of drugs.



Fuck this is interesting.







I see what you mean but imo banning drugs just because the govn't doesn't want people getting high is always a horrible idea.



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I still don't see how they can ban these drugs, because they are an imminent hazard, but not ban alcohol. There are SOOO many alcohol deaths every year, how is that not an imminent hazard?



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#19552043 - 02/11/14 01:46 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply



4-MEC The lousiest Drug ive ever been addicted too. 10 minutes of amazing euforia and then .5 hour+ wanting more. My nose will never be the same.





FMC I saw kaliedoscope colors the first time, second time nothing but a mild stimulation. Did I destroy a part of my brain forever?



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4-MEC The lousiest Drug ive ever been addicted too. 10 minutes of amazing euforia and then .5 hour+ wanting more. My nose will never be the same.





FMC I saw kaliedoscope colors the first time, second time nothing but a mild stimulation. Did I destroy a part of my brain forever?







No you probably had 2 different drugs. 4-MEC was ok, but nothing special in my opinion.



I actually just ordered some iso-AB-FUBINICA... hopefully it ships ok.



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quite honestly im very happy a-pvp users cant legally obtain that vile chemical now.





every regular apvp user should get shot and put in a mass grave.















Funny coincidence. I think all overly judgmental pricks should meet a similar fate. Not sure why you'd choose to make such a harsh, compassionless statement without elaboration... but hey, I guess some people just enjoy spewing pointless hate, amirite? But great job demonizing a whole lot of people that you don't know, and know nothing about, though. If that ever becomes an olympic event, I'm sure you're a viable contender. And even barring prejudice becoming an olympic event, I'm sure you could apply that kind of skill to other endeavors, as well. Maybe your local Klan needs a new Grand Wizard or whatever the fuck they call them. I'm sure you'd fit right in.















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4-MEC The lousiest Drug ive ever been addicted too. 10 minutes of amazing euforia and then .5 hour+ wanting more. My nose will never be the same.













4-MEC is a really, really mild drug. It is somewhat moreish, as most of the cathinone derivatives seem to be, to one degree or another. But that one is much easier to say "no" to, than any of the others I've encountered.



It also seemed to have very desirable pro-sexual properties. Not only enhancing tactile sensation, but seriously potentiating orgasm. And not only that but it also allowed for multiple male orgasms. As in, several rounds with complete climax, and zero refractory time in between. Never seen anything like it.



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I'm confused as to what you're upset about.



about 30 days before a temporary scheduling action, a notice is published stating the "intent" to emergency schedule in the next 30 days. 30 days after that, the "final order" is published.



That is similar to how its been done for some time now, though there have been some minor changes in timelines over the past couple years.



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I'm confused as to what you're upset about.



about 30 days before a temporary scheduling action, a notice is published stating the "intent" to emergency schedule in the next 30 days. 30 days after that, the "final order" is published.



That is similar to how its been done for some time now, though there have been some minor changes in timelines over the past couple years.











Well, I'm upset about a couple things:





First of all, they have definitely given more than 30 days notice of their intent in the past. For example, when they emergency scheduled 4-MMC, Methylone, and MDPV, we knew months ahead of time, that it was going to happen.





Second (and this is perhaps my biggest beef) I feel like there needs to be some better mechanism to alert the public to such changes in the law, than simply making an announcement on some government website. What this means, essentially, is that if you're not watching that website every single day, or someone doesn't come along to point it out (as I have with this thread, and as others have done in the past) then it is possible that a chemical becomes illegal and people don't know about it.



As such, a person could find themselves unwittingly breaking the law, and possessing a Schedule I chemical, which was perfectly legal just yesterday. That doesn't seem right.



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I'm upset because they're making it a law to punishing people for possessing substances. That's just fucking stupid.



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You have these chemicals appearing at mathematical random in your bathroom???? INVITE ME OVER IMMEDIATELY!!!



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in sad that the 2c class banned in the uk but ehh gonna try some bk-2cb



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I can't help but feel that the RC scene is starting to delve into dangerous, potentially neurotoxic chemistry.. especially given the rate at which these vendors are pumping out these new exotic chemicals.



It's not even the hardcore psychonaut scene thats the problem though; it's the unscrupulous people that are pushing this shit to the front lines. Every kid who can't score some weed is now testing some ultra new cannabinoid, with a funky name and absolutely no idea what's in it, let alone its pharmacology, metabolism or even dose. The level of ignorance that seems to exist in the average end user is horrendous, given the pure amount of legal new chemicals which are very easily available.



I disagree on many levels with drug scheduling, however in terms of harm reduction, I feel that this is an area that does need a heavy handed approach. Illegality will never stop any hardcore psychonaut.



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Sadly, these people are the guinea pigs.



It would be more reasonable to bring the whole RC community from the underground and test these chemicals on mice first. But legislators want to sound like they care about the kids, when in fact kids are the only ones stupid enough to ingest an untested chemical.



The only benefit I see out of this is that we are seeing TONS of new psychoactive drugs.



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When the hell are people going to stand up to this corrupt fkn government man.. It's beyond my. Everyone's just gonna keep letting them push us around until they push us to death. Such a shame..



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