On today’s episode:

A frank interview with Mr. Rooney about what it’s like to be a Republican congressman when the House, Senate, and presidency are controlled by your party — but just about nothing is getting done, and all the usual rules have been broken.

Background reading:

Mark Leibovich’s Times Magazine story, which looks at how Washington has changed under Mr. Trump, and also features Mr. Rooney.

Tune in, and tell us what you think. Email us at thedaily@nytimes.com. Tweet me at @mikiebarb.

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