When discussing a potential Republican primary challenger to President Donald Trump in 2020, Republican strategist Mike Murphy was taken aback when MSNBC’s Katy Tur asked him if a Democrat would be better than the current GOP president.

Laughing, never-Trump Republican Mike Murphy responding that it would “depend which Democrat” won the nomination.

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“If it’s a choice between Trump and a Bernie Sanders-Elizabeth Warren socialist Democrat,” he continued, “it’s a coin flip of pain.”

Watch below, via MSNBC: