Fire and Fury author Michael Wolff stopped by Tuesday’s Hardball for his latest interview and he used the chance to lament with host Chris Matthews that it’s “a tragedy” that Steve Bannon has been ousted from Breitbart but Donald Trump hasn’t been removed from the presidency.

Right off the bat, Matthews pushed some fake news in wondering what Wolff made about the Bannon news, asserting that “Bannon is gone from Breitbart,” which is a “thing he created.”

Unless Matthews has been living under a rock in the Potomac, Breitbart has its name because it was founded by the late Andrew Breitbart. A basic Google search would tell you that, but perhaps we should cut Chris some slack since he might have something else on his mind.

Wolff rolled with the question anyway, responding that “I'm thinking that the — that the real villain of the book who is Donald Trump is still ensconced in the White House. So it's a — it’s a little bit of a tragedy here.”

Matthews asked “for whom” this is “a tragedy” and Wolff responded that it’s “a tragedy” “for the American people” that Bannon is gone while Trump stays in office. Again, this is a guy who claimed that he “has no political agenda.”

Behind this, in being the most interesting part in the interview, was Matthews’s praise for the controversial and error-laden book by a man he deemed a modern-day Joe McGinniss, claiming that he “love[s] the facts in your book because it is a non-fiction book with a lot of facts.”

“We can argue around the edges, but the facts are like giant blocks of reality,” Matthews foolishly claimed.

Also during the segment, the MSNBC host blasted Trump for “trying to create a Potemkin village” in the form of the bipartisan immigration meeting “to offset the portrait” spun in Wolff’s book. Wolff agreed, stating that it was “the weirdest thing I've ever seen.”

Later, after he insinuated that Trump was like a Twilight Zone character with special powers who could “kill anybody he wanted to” if he wasn’t sufficiently praised, Matthews turned to “the cold, scary part of your book” about Trump’s mental well-being.

Matthews wondered if Trump was able to “show reasonable judgment, coolness under pressure, and recognition of consequences by the people around him,” to which Wolff not surprisingly replied was not possible.

To cap off the lovefest, Matthews responded to Wolff’s point about how Bannon and Reince Priebus became surprising allies in the White House by resurrecting his quip about Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump being the U.S. equivalent of Saddam Hussein’s murderous sons: “I guess when you're dealing with Uday and Qusay every day, you do find common purposes.”

Here’s the relevant transcript from MSNBC’s Hardball on January 9: