Update: Shaq says he was joking.

Earlier this season, Kyrie Irving voiced his belief that the Earth is flat. The Earth is not flat, but that won’t stop NBA stars from making the argument.

Shaquille O’Neal appeared to be the latest flat-Earth truther to make the claim.

On the Big Podcast with Shaq, the Hall of Famer tenaciously argued that the Earth is flat, and he didn’t appear to be joking. Take a listen:

He said through a back-and-forth dialogue:

“It’s true. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. Yeah, it is. Yes, it is. Listen, there are three ways to manipulate the mind — what you read, what you see and what you hear. In school, first thing they teach us is, ‘Oh, Columbus discovered America,’ but when he got there, there were some fair-skinned people with the long hair smoking on the peace pipes. So, what does that tell you? Columbus didn’t discover America. So, listen, I drive from coast to coast, and this (expletive) is flat to me. I’m just saying. I drive from Florida to California all the time, and it’s flat to me. I do not go up and down at a 360-degree angle, and all that stuff about gravity, have you looked outside Atlanta lately and seen all these buildings? You mean to tell me that China is under us? China is under us? It’s not. The world is flat.”

When satellite imagery got brought up, Shaq said, “Oh, satellite imagery — that could be drawn or made up.”

Obviously, the basis of driving from Florida to California would not be nearly scientific enough to justify the flat-Earth claim, but that was all Shaq needed to see and he’s standing by it.

The next Inside the NBA on TNT should be interesting.

(h/t Yahoo! Sports)