@ThanosReXXX I'm trying to avoid it all myself, I have 2 kids in school, I need to sleep at night.

And as much as I agree w/ you on the topic, and since I was so bored by necktie history, I do think the "founding fathers" intended for people not only to have guns in times of war but also in other times as well. In 1776 probably half the country was still hunting, whether as trappers selling their kill or frontier folk eating rabbits, a musket I think was part of life, a farmer would be naked w/o one. Also needed to fight off "injuns" and the occasional brown or black bear, or a wolf or coyote. I can't imagine living in the wilderness in 1776 w/o a rifle, I'd all assume they knew that back then as well.

Of course bears are mostly in zoos now, wolves in Yellowstone park, and most people don't hunt for any reason. And if your using a semi-automatic rifle to hunt, well I'm a city slicker but even I can tell you you're doing it wrong. And there are still a lot of people I know who hunt. And my uncle and his family of butchers made some decent money carving up deer for the hunters back in the day. So I do think some of that still holds. 2 of my 3 brother-in-laws hunt, one with his brother and father, the other teaches his kids, son and 2 daughters, proper respect for a hunting rifle. And as opposed as I am to killing defenseless animals b/c I'm a bleeding heart liberal, well I'm also a fisherman, and I kill a lot of what I eat and don't eat, so I can't judge them and be hypocritical that way.

That said, it's out of control, and something has to be done. I can't recall the last massacre w/ a hunting rifle or shotgun, everyone uses semi-automatics these days. So I think that's a good place to start. I had to take a written and driving test to get a drivers license, that's another place to start, gun safety. Not just a background check, a test and license. Renewed every year.

Of course nobody in the deep South is going to give a license to a non-white, and nobody in the US is going to give one to a non-christian, so bias is an issue that needs to be covered as well.

But they need to at least give the appearance of doing something besides praying. Make the effort. Sell bullets like beer. Besides guns how do these people get so much ammo? They aren't growing bullets in their yard.

So no, I don't have all the answer, or any answers, but I'd like somebody to at least seriously start discussing stuff rather than just taking in millions of $ each year form the NRA.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/15/media/bess-kalb-kimmel-gop-shooting/index.html

Better than discussing boxes of food for the poor, pretty damn near the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/opinions/trumps-blue-apron-type-plan-is-crumbs-to-the-poor-filipovic/index.html

Even if we don't shot every kid in the country to death, the plan is to starve them to death.

"And no cable TV anymore?"

Changing the topic so I can go to bed not angry...

No cable boxes or paid for channels right now. Lots of "over-the-top (is OTT a thing there, I know you hate when I use abbreviations) options.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-top_media_services

No phone, which the sales lady warned me I'd regret when I needed 911, but our VOIP (voice over intenret protocol) already went out when we lost power, so I'm not worried about 911, I'm not in a school. Still waiting on what my internet speed will be. I Asked 3 different people for 20Mbps, that's what the website says, but my new bill only says:

Optimum Online Internet Basics $24.95

Modem(s) $10.00

so I wont' know the speed until they flip the switch, which they still haven't yet, I still have a dial-tone on my phone. Basic used to be 5, then 10, then 15, then 20, some people online in the forums say 25. They used to sell 20 as "Boost" for as extra $5 per month back when 5 was their main, about 3 years ago, so it's not like I'm going back to dial-up, I'm going back to "Boost", which I never paid for b/c/ 5 seemed like enough to me. 20 should be fine if I get it and it works, no throttling. I'll let ya know, whether you want me to or not.