"There were more lives saved from their success at getting guns off the street, than any loss by their abuse," Brown said. "In a perfect world, we would have these guys playing by the rules all the time. But as much as we pay lip service and ceremonial service to first responders they're paid like crap, quite frankly. And when you put them in these positions where they're out there chasing the bad guys and the bad guys have all the money, yeah, sometimes they're going to snatch a stack or two."