Too much of the midrange sucked out on these for me. Horribly so, to my tastes. Treble not as smooth as HD650. Sounded darker and less alive up top compared to HD650 too, subjectively. So goddamn boring. Stage made me feel like I was suffocating. Hotel California from HFA had the stage size of me sticking my hands over my face. No air whatsoever. HORRIBLY veiled. Like throw-this-in-the-trash veiled from top to bottom. Seriously, it ranks down there with the EL-8 Closed as one of the worst headphones I have ever heard. Well, I guess the bass wasn't too bad. Didn't seem to bleed much for me. Probably low distortion making it sound less bassy than I expected.



Your measurements still make me think this pair has some of these qualities, like the lacking mids. But your impressions seem much more positive than mine. I wouldn't expect this headphone to have much variance from unit to unit, but I can't help but wonder. Everyone at Tyll's for that weekend just shook their head at the Nighthawk he had. We all agreed it was flat out bad.

"What the heck are you gonna do if you're on a picnic and have an ice cream, and the ants crawl on the ice cream? What are you gonna do? You're gonna eat the ants, because it's made out of protein. For your health!" - Dr. Steve Brule