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Session 767







Offer to yourself your own permission to be accepting of that which you view to

be the shadows of you, and allow yourself a new perception, a turning of your

perception, recognizing that you need not be discounting of yourself, you need

not be chastising of yourself or striving for perfection, but all that you

create within your reality is an expression of you. Those elements of your

reality that you view to be the inadequacies or the shortcomings or the mistakes

are in actuality perfect also, for they are the shadows that offer you depth.

For without the shadow you create a flatness and no depth.



~ Elias



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"One must have chaos in oneself in order to give birth to a dancing star." ~

Friedrich W. Nietzsche







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Carl Jung

1958



"Beneath the social mask we wear every day, we have a hidden shadow side: an

impulsive, wounded, sad, or isolated part that we generally try to ignore. The

Shadow can be a source of emotional richness and vitality, and acknowledging it

can be a pathway to healing and an authentic life. We meet our dark side, accept

it for what it is, and we learn to use its powerful energies in productive ways.

The Shadow knows why good people sometimes do "bad" things. Romancing the Shadow

and learning to read the messages it encodes in daily life can deepen your

consciousness, imagination, and soul."



from "Romancing the Shadow," by Connie Zwieg, PhD., and Steve Wolf, PhD.











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Jung's Theory of The Shadow



"The Shadow describes the part of the psyche that an individual would rather not

acknowledge. It contains the denied parts of the self. Since the self contains

these aspects, they surface in one way or another. Bringing Shadow material into

consciousness drains its dark power, and can even recover valuable resources

from it. The greatest power, however, comes from having accepted your shadow

parts and integrated them as components of your Self."



from John Elder







-----------------







WHAT WE DO NOT DARE LOOK AT, WITHIN OURSELVES, WE TEND TO PROJECT OUT ONTO

OTHERS...........



"Shadow wants to be heard, simply that. But if it isn't, it turns nasty. It

becomes a veritable demon, witch, or son-of-a-bitch, demanding its pound of

flesh....in very painful real time, not dreamtime.



Pay attention to your shadow. If you keep distancing yourself, saying "Heavens,

it's not my fault!"---then heaven help you. Hell won't."



Katya Walter



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Jung continued:



Everyone carries a Shadow, and the less it is embodied in the individual's

conscious life, the blacker and denser it is. At all counts, it forms an

unconscious snag, thwarting our most well-meant intentions."



"One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making

the darkness conscious."











------------



Who has not at one time or another felt a sourness, wrath, selfishness, envy and

pride, which he could not tell what to do with, or how to bear, rising up in him

without his consent, casting a blackness over all his thoughts, and then as

suddenly going off again, either by the cheerfulness of the sun or air, or some

agreeable accident, and again at times as suddenly returning upon him?

Sufficient indications are these to every man that there is a dark guest within

him, concealed under the cover of flesh and blood, often lulled asleep by

worldly light and amusements, yet such as will, in spite of everything, show

itself... It is exceeding good and beneficial to us to discover this dark,

disordered fire of our soul; because when rightly known and rightly dealt with,

it can as well be made the foundation of heaven as it is of hell."





- William Law, The Grounds and Reasons of Christian Regeneration (1739)







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More Quoteables



The range of what we think and do

is limited by what we fail to notice.

And because we fail to notice

that we fail to notice

there is little we can do

to change

until we notice

how failing to notice

shapes our thoughts and deeds.

--R.D. Laing











--------------











Robert Green Ingalls said: "in nature there are neither rewards nor

punishments--there are consequences." We aren't being singled out for

punishment, we are merely experiencing the consequences of our own rigidity. If

we choose security over change, we have to suffer the consequences. As Gail

Sheehy summarizes succinctly: "If we don't change, we don't grow. If we don't

grow, we are not really living. Growth demands a temporary surrender of

security."



We can learn how to recognize our own rigidity and how to correct it. It takes

honesty and courage, but the rewards are immense. First, the suffering stops.

This is the surest sign that we have chosen the right path again: the

unnecessary suffering stops. More importantly, new possibilities open up

everywhere in our life. Where everything seemed sterile and barren, and there

seemed no possible answers, now everything seems possible. The possibilities may

be scary, because each offers a path that we have never taken before, but it's a

good kind of fear, like the fear that a fine pianist experiences before a

concert.



from "Shadow Dancing" by Robin Robertson.







---------







[Jung] told me that he once met a distinguished man, a Quaker, who could not

imagine that he had ever done anything wrong in his life. "And do you know what

happened to his children?" Jung asked. "The son became a thief, and the daughter

a prostitute. Because the father would not take on his shadow, his share in the

imperfection of human nature, his children were compelled to live out the dark

side which he had ignored."



(A. I. Allenby describing a conversation with C. G. Jung.)







------------







"The secret is out: all of us, no exceptions, have qualities we won't let anyone

see, including ourselves---our Shadow. If we face up to our dark side, our life

can be energized. If not, there is the devil to pay. This is one of life's most

urgent projects."



Larry Dossey, M.D., Author of "Healing Wounds"











-----------



"Each psychology is a confession, and the worth of psychology for

another person lies not in the places where he can identify with it

because it satisfies his psychic needs, but where it provokes him to

work out his own psychology in response".



James Hillman



------------











"He (Great Spirit) governs the flowing of all waters, and the ebbing, the

courses of all rivers and the replenishment of springs, the distilling of all

dews and rain in every land beneath the sky. In the deep places, He gives

thought to music great and terrible; and the echo of that music runs through all

the veins of the world in sorrow and in joy; for if joyful is the fountain that

rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the

foundations of the Earth."



J.R.R. Tolkein, "The Silmarillion"



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The Core of Shadow Work is this: To KNOW YOURSELF FULLY, from as many angles as

are required, in order that you might dare to let yourself go free. Being

neither judge, jury, prosecutor, nor defender---you give no explanations, nor do

you require any. You are AT HOME in your place between the sun and the moon.



~The Reconnections.







We know, as we have been saying for quite some time,

that things in your personal lives

and things in your collective reality, your society,

are beginning to become as many of you have observed,

very much more chaotic.

Many things are breaking down.

Many things are becoming much, much, much more magnified.

Many energies seem to be happening all at once.



And we remind you, once again,

as we have said before,

that the key to riding the wave of chaos

is not to resist it

but to allow yourself to know

you are a part of the energy of chaos.

To allow yourself to be chaos

and in becoming chaos

and allowing a new form of organization in,

rather than imposing your old system of organization upon it,

by letting this new idea in

and, as you say, riding it,

going with it,

not resisting it…

you will then, by becoming chaos,

allow the chaotic action

to show you through sychronicity,

what it is you really need to be aware of,

how it is that life will organize itself

using you as a guide post.



The more you allow yourself to become

who and what you are,

the more natural you become,

the more truthful to yourself you become,

the more representative you become

of the facet of the Infinite you were created to be…

Then the easier it will be for your reality

when it becomes more chaotic

to be able to reflect to you

those aspects of the chaos

that have to do with you

and are important to apply in your life

and those aspects of the chaos

that don't have to do with you

and which you can let go of.

These will reveal themselves.



You will see a new organization coming in,

a new organizing principle

that will let you know through synchronicity

which things you need to pay attention to,

which things you can let go of,

which things are no longer necessary in your life…

Things, that perhaps, in the past

you have been taught you need to hold on to…

you now can begin to really let go of

so that you can understand that the most important aspect

of being able to handle the new chaos,

the amplified and magnified chaos,

that is going on in your society

will be to streamline yourself…

let go of excess baggage.

It will seem as if you are becoming, in a sense,

supersonic

and that you must trim off anything

that doesn't belong to you

or you will not really be able to ride the wave smoothly.



It will be as if you are an airplane

with many appendages

that do not need to be there.

You must become more like a rocket, in that sense,

more streamlined,

so that the waves of chaos can slip past you more easily,

so that you can go through them

and in becoming more streamlined, in that sense,

you'll be able to pass through the "eye of the needle"

in which all chaos occurs

and toward which your society is rapidly heading.

And in that "eye of the needle"

there will be no room as we have said

for things that do not belong to you.

It will have no room to carry through

all of those definitions,

all of those experiences,

that hold you back,

that limit you,

that are defined as something other than yourself.

All of the excess baggage of beliefs

you have been brought up with,

taught to hold on to,

that you do not need,

that weigh you down.

You will have to let go of to pass through

that "eye of the needle".



As things get more chaotic

it will be more tumultuous

and it will be as if

you are being cast about in the wind,

you will not be able to find any kind

of sense of direction

if you don't let go of those things

that allow you not to experience…smoothness

and the streamlined motion that you need to have…

So we would recommend

More importantly than ever

you lighten up and let go.

Drop those things that have nothing to do with you...

You do not need them.

They only hold you back.

You must be able now to move more swiftly

because things are going to accelerate even more…

and more…

and more…

and more.

Especially in what you call your next couple of years.



So I would recommend

that you allow yourself now to recognize

you can move much faster,

much more smoothly.



And you can, in doing so,

give yourself the opportunity to be able to see

what's going on around you,

almost impartially,

as if you yourself are almost not involved.

As if ;you are like the eye of the storm

and everything is moving around you,

this is the nature of attached detachment.



As you become more involved

with "true" life

in some ways you seem to become less involved

with life around you…

paradoxically.

You will actually be able to become more active if you want to be

but only in those things that are truly representative

of who you are.

The more you insist and remain insisting

on becoming active in ;those things

that have nothing to do with you,

that are really not your truth,

the more difficult it will be for you

to maintain your course

towards that "eye of the needle",

that transition point,

that is coming up very much more strongly,

now than ever before.

Remember that what we are saying here is not metaphorical,

we're talking about real energy..

collective consciousness energy,

that are truly piling on a critical mass,

amplifying itself.



Allow yourselves the opportunity to trust

who you know yourselves to be.

To take a deep breath and sigh…

and in that sigh release those things you do not need,

those things that, perhaps, you have been holding on to

for long time,

maybe for all your life…

that you know you really want to let go of.



Now's the time to really understand

how to let them go,

to let it be all right

to surrender to yourself

and remember again, please,

we will constantly remind you of this

because it is one of the most important things, now,

at this critical time.



That surrendering is not the giving up of something,

true surrender is the total acceptance of yourself,

your true self,

you're not losing anything in the surrender,

the way your society usually means that word…

you are not giving up anything in the sense of loss.

Surrender means to open up,

open up to your total self,

to give in and let go

of the things you think you're supposed to be.

Just be who you are.

It will see you through…

it will see you through.



Allow yourself to let go

for the seas will only become choppier now

and only by being your essential self

will you be able to ride those waves in such a manner

that they will not feel like a storm to you

even though you may observe

that there is chaos of storm all around you.



This is what being in the center is all about.

This is the effect that you get in your life when you do that

guaranteed…

guaranteed…

in effect,

physically in effect,

guaranteed.

But you must let go

and the degree to which you still feel tumbled about

is the degree to which you may still

have ideas that you must let go of,

that are not you.

And so you can use that as a measuring device

to see how well you're doing

in letting go of who you are not

and in accepting who you are,

as you were originally made to be,

created to be:

an Infinite Creator with unlimited possibilities,

who knows that and acts like they know it…

a creative being,

a loving being.



That is all you have to be,

the rest takes care of itself…

because you are creating life through you,

you are experiencing who you are through you,

and as you become clear

and as you become centered

and as you become like unto the "eye of the needle",

then nothing that does not belong

will be capable of passing through you.

You will be your own best filter

and you will filter out that which is not you.



And on the other side of the "eye of the needle"

there will only be

that thin bright light

and thin bright edge,

that is unerringly…unmistakably,

just you…

just you…

your true essential self…

just you.

That will be all that is left

because that is all there is…

just you…

and this goes for every one of you



~ Bashar



[www.youtube.com] Just some quotes that I found to be inspirational:Session 767Offer to yourself your own permission to be accepting of that which you view tobe the shadows of you, and allow yourself a new perception, a turning of yourperception, recognizing that you need not be discounting of yourself, you neednot be chastising of yourself or striving for perfection, but all that youcreate within your reality is an expression of you. Those elements of yourreality that you view to be the inadequacies or the shortcomings or the mistakesare in actuality perfect also, for they are the shadows that offer you depth.For without the shadow you create a flatness and no depth.~ Elias------"One must have chaos in oneself in order to give birth to a dancing star." ~Friedrich W. Nietzsche----------Carl Jung1958"Beneath the social mask we wear every day, we have a hidden shadow side: animpulsive, wounded, sad, or isolated part that we generally try to ignore. TheShadow can be a source of emotional richness and vitality, and acknowledging itcan be a pathway to healing and an authentic life. We meet our dark side, acceptit for what it is, and we learn to use its powerful energies in productive ways.The Shadow knows why good people sometimes do "bad" things. Romancing the Shadowand learning to read the messages it encodes in daily life can deepen yourconsciousness, imagination, and soul."from "Romancing the Shadow," by Connie Zwieg, PhD., and Steve Wolf, PhD.---------Jung's Theory of The Shadow"The Shadow describes the part of the psyche that an individual would rather notacknowledge. It contains the denied parts of the self. Since the self containsthese aspects, they surface in one way or another. Bringing Shadow material intoconsciousness drains its dark power, and can even recover valuable resourcesfrom it. The greatest power, however, comes from having accepted your shadowparts and integrated them as components of your Self."from John Elder-----------------WHAT WE DO NOT DARE LOOK AT, WITHIN OURSELVES, WE TEND TO PROJECT OUT ONTOOTHERS..........."Shadow wants to be heard, simply that. But if it isn't, it turns nasty. Itbecomes a veritable demon, witch, or son-of-a-bitch, demanding its pound offlesh....in very painful real time, not dreamtime.Pay attention to your shadow. If you keep distancing yourself, saying "Heavens,it's not my fault!"---then heaven help you. Hell won't."Katya Walter-------------Jung continued:Everyone carries a Shadow, and the less it is embodied in the individual'sconscious life, the blacker and denser it is. At all counts, it forms anunconscious snag, thwarting our most well-meant intentions.""One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by makingthe darkness conscious."------------Who has not at one time or another felt a sourness, wrath, selfishness, envy andpride, which he could not tell what to do with, or how to bear, rising up in himwithout his consent, casting a blackness over all his thoughts, and then assuddenly going off again, either by the cheerfulness of the sun or air, or someagreeable accident, and again at times as suddenly returning upon him?Sufficient indications are these to every man that there is a dark guest withinhim, concealed under the cover of flesh and blood, often lulled asleep byworldly light and amusements, yet such as will, in spite of everything, showitself... It is exceeding good and beneficial to us to discover this dark,disordered fire of our soul; because when rightly known and rightly dealt with,it can as well be made the foundation of heaven as it is of hell."- William Law, The Grounds and Reasons of Christian Regeneration (1739)-----------More QuoteablesThe range of what we think and dois limited by what we fail to notice.And because we fail to noticethat we fail to noticethere is little we can doto changeuntil we noticehow failing to noticeshapes our thoughts and deeds.--R.D. Laing--------------Robert Green Ingalls said: "in nature there are neither rewards norpunishments--there are consequences." We aren't being singled out forpunishment, we are merely experiencing the consequences of our own rigidity. Ifwe choose security over change, we have to suffer the consequences. As GailSheehy summarizes succinctly: "If we don't change, we don't grow. If we don'tgrow, we are not really living. Growth demands a temporary surrender ofsecurity."We can learn how to recognize our own rigidity and how to correct it. It takeshonesty and courage, but the rewards are immense. First, the suffering stops.This is the surest sign that we have chosen the right path again: theunnecessary suffering stops. More importantly, new possibilities open upeverywhere in our life. Where everything seemed sterile and barren, and thereseemed no possible answers, now everything seems possible. The possibilities maybe scary, because each offers a path that we have never taken before, but it's agood kind of fear, like the fear that a fine pianist experiences before aconcert.from "Shadow Dancing" by Robin Robertson.---------[Jung] told me that he once met a distinguished man, a Quaker, who could notimagine that he had ever done anything wrong in his life. "And do you know whathappened to his children?" Jung asked. "The son became a thief, and the daughtera prostitute. Because the father would not take on his shadow, his share in theimperfection of human nature, his children were compelled to live out the darkside which he had ignored."(A. I. Allenby describing a conversation with C. G. Jung.)------------"The secret is out: all of us, no exceptions, have qualities we won't let anyonesee, including ourselves---our Shadow. If we face up to our dark side, our lifecan be energized. If not, there is the devil to pay. This is one of life's mosturgent projects."Larry Dossey, M.D., Author of "Healing Wounds"-----------"Each psychology is a confession, and the worth of psychology foranother person lies not in the places where he can identify with itbecause it satisfies his psychic needs, but where it provokes him towork out his own psychology in response".James Hillman------------"He (Great Spirit) governs the flowing of all waters, and the ebbing, thecourses of all rivers and the replenishment of springs, the distilling of alldews and rain in every land beneath the sky. In the deep places, He givesthought to music great and terrible; and the echo of that music runs through allthe veins of the world in sorrow and in joy; for if joyful is the fountain thatrises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at thefoundations of the Earth."J.R.R. Tolkein, "The Silmarillion"-------------The Core of Shadow Work is this: To KNOW YOURSELF FULLY, from as many angles asare required, in order that you might dare to let yourself go free. Beingneither judge, jury, prosecutor, nor defender---you give no explanations, nor doyou require any. You are AT HOME in your place between the sun and the moon.~The Reconnections.We know, as we have been saying for quite some time,that things in your personal livesand things in your collective reality, your society,are beginning to become as many of you have observed,very much more chaotic.Many things are breaking down.Many things are becoming much, much, much more magnified.Many energies seem to be happening all at once.And we remind you, once again,as we have said before,that the key to riding the wave of chaosis not to resist itbut to allow yourself to knowyou are a part of the energy of chaos.To allow yourself to be chaosand in becoming chaosand allowing a new form of organization in,rather than imposing your old system of organization upon it,by letting this new idea inand, as you say, riding it,going with it,not resisting it…you will then, by becoming chaos,allow the chaotic actionto show you through sychronicity,what it is you really need to be aware of,how it is that life will organize itselfusing you as a guide post.The more you allow yourself to becomewho and what you are,the more natural you become,the more truthful to yourself you become,the more representative you becomeof the facet of the Infinite you were created to be…Then the easier it will be for your realitywhen it becomes more chaoticto be able to reflect to youthose aspects of the chaosthat have to do with youand are important to apply in your lifeand those aspects of the chaosthat don't have to do with youand which you can let go of.These will reveal themselves.You will see a new organization coming in,a new organizing principlethat will let you know through synchronicitywhich things you need to pay attention to,which things you can let go of,which things are no longer necessary in your life…Things, that perhaps, in the pastyou have been taught you need to hold on to…you now can begin to really let go ofso that you can understand that the most important aspectof being able to handle the new chaos,the amplified and magnified chaos,that is going on in your societywill be to streamline yourself…let go of excess baggage.It will seem as if you are becoming, in a sense,supersonicand that you must trim off anythingthat doesn't belong to youor you will not really be able to ride the wave smoothly.It will be as if you are an airplanewith many appendagesthat do not need to be there.You must become more like a rocket, in that sense,more streamlined,so that the waves of chaos can slip past you more easily,so that you can go through themand in becoming more streamlined, in that sense,you'll be able to pass through the "eye of the needle"in which all chaos occursand toward which your society is rapidly heading.And in that "eye of the needle"there will be no room as we have saidfor things that do not belong to you.It will have no room to carry throughall of those definitions,all of those experiences,that hold you back,that limit you,that are defined as something other than yourself.All of the excess baggage of beliefsyou have been brought up with,taught to hold on to,that you do not need,that weigh you down.You will have to let go of to pass throughthat "eye of the needle".As things get more chaoticit will be more tumultuousand it will be as ifyou are being cast about in the wind,you will not be able to find any kindof sense of directionif you don't let go of those thingsthat allow you not to experience…smoothnessand the streamlined motion that you need to have…So we would recommendMore importantly than everyou lighten up and let go.Drop those things that have nothing to do with you...You do not need them.They only hold you back.You must be able now to move more swiftlybecause things are going to accelerate even more…and more…and more…and more.Especially in what you call your next couple of years.So I would recommendthat you allow yourself now to recognizeyou can move much faster,much more smoothly.And you can, in doing so,give yourself the opportunity to be able to seewhat's going on around you,almost impartially,as if you yourself are almost not involved.As if ;you are like the eye of the stormand everything is moving around you,this is the nature of attached detachment.As you become more involvedwith "true" lifein some ways you seem to become less involvedwith life around you…paradoxically.You will actually be able to become more active if you want to bebut only in those things that are truly representativeof who you are.The more you insist and remain insistingon becoming active in ;those thingsthat have nothing to do with you,that are really not your truth,the more difficult it will be for youto maintain your coursetowards that "eye of the needle",that transition point,that is coming up very much more strongly,now than ever before.Remember that what we are saying here is not metaphorical,we're talking about real energy..collective consciousness energy,that are truly piling on a critical mass,amplifying itself.Allow yourselves the opportunity to trustwho you know yourselves to be.To take a deep breath and sigh…and in that sigh release those things you do not need,those things that, perhaps, you have been holding on tofor long time,maybe for all your life…that you know you really want to let go of.Now's the time to really understandhow to let them go,to let it be all rightto surrender to yourselfand remember again, please,we will constantly remind you of thisbecause it is one of the most important things, now,at this critical time.That surrendering is not the giving up of something,true surrender is the total acceptance of yourself,your true self,you're not losing anything in the surrender,the way your society usually means that word…you are not giving up anything in the sense of loss.Surrender means to open up,open up to your total self,to give in and let goof the things you think you're supposed to be.Just be who you are.It will see you through…it will see you through.Allow yourself to let gofor the seas will only become choppier nowand only by being your essential selfwill you be able to ride those waves in such a mannerthat they will not feel like a storm to youeven though you may observethat there is chaos of storm all around you.This is what being in the center is all about.This is the effect that you get in your life when you do thatguaranteed…guaranteed…in effect,physically in effect,guaranteed.But you must let goand the degree to which you still feel tumbled aboutis the degree to which you may stillhave ideas that you must let go of,that are not you.And so you can use that as a measuring deviceto see how well you're doingin letting go of who you are notand in accepting who you are,as you were originally made to be,created to be:an Infinite Creator with unlimited possibilities,who knows that and acts like they know it…a creative being,a loving being.That is all you have to be,the rest takes care of itself…because you are creating life through you,you are experiencing who you are through you,and as you become clearand as you become centeredand as you become like unto the "eye of the needle",then nothing that does not belongwill be capable of passing through you.You will be your own best filterand you will filter out that which is not you.And on the other side of the "eye of the needle"there will only bethat thin bright lightand thin bright edge,that is unerringly…unmistakably,just you…just you…your true essential self…just you.That will be all that is leftbecause that is all there is…just you…and this goes for every one of you~ Bashar

Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self riverhousebill () Posted by:() Date: May 22, 2009 03:18AM

"The best political, social, and spirtual work we can do

is to withdraw the projection of our shadow onto others.

-Carl Jung







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Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self riverhousebill () Posted by:() Date: May 22, 2009 03:35AM

The Shadow is not inerntly evil. If it is ignored or denied, it may become

monstrous to compensate. Only then is it likely to "demonically possess"

its owner, leading to compulsive, exaggerated, "evil"behavior.



"Whatever is rejected from the self, appears in th world as an event,"

said Carl Jung. If you disown a part of your personality, it'll materialize

as an unexpected detour.

Everyone who believes in the devil is the devil







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Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self kwan () Posted by:() Date: May 22, 2009 04:42AM

Good thread, guys! (Though my shadow probably would disagree.)



Sharrhan :





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Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self riverhousebill () Posted by:() Date: May 23, 2009 02:57PM

"There is no generally efective tecnique for assimilating the shadow. it

is more like diplomacy and is always an individual matter. First one has to

accept and take seriously the existence of the shadow. Second, one has to

become aware of its qualities and intentions. This happans through

consientiousw attenion to moods fantasiesw, and impules. Third, a

long process of negotiation is unavoidable." Daryl Sharp, Jung Lexicon:

A Primer of Terms ans concepts:







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Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self riverhousebill () Posted by:() Date: May 23, 2009 03:06PM

Astrologer Steven Forrest has a different name for the shadow: stuff.

"Work on your stuff," he saysw,"or your stuff will work on you,"He maens

that it will sabotage you if you're not aggressive about identifying,

negotiating with, and transforming it.

,

Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self Tamukha () Posted by:() Date: May 25, 2009 02:46PM

Thanks for posting, flex4life.



My Scorpio shadow paces and growls for release, but out of concern for the unsuspecting world, I keep it caged. For now.

Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self riverhousebill () Posted by:() Date: May 25, 2009 03:26PM

You're a gorgeous mystery with a wild heart and a lofty purpose.

But like all of us, your psyche also harbors a portion of the

sickness: a mess of repressed longings, enervating wounds, igno-

rant delusions and unripe powers. It has been know by many names,

including demon and devil. Psychologist Carl Jung called it the

shadow. He believed it was the lead that the authentic alchemists

of the middle ages sought to transute into gold.

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...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

hey cool tam ima scorpio too heh...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self Tamukha () Posted by:() Date: May 30, 2009 02:44AM

Jodi,



Ahhh, this explains why I like you so much! Not that I dislike anyone else here : )

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hehe i have alot of scorpions around me , must be some sort of unspoken thing its weird but i have probably more scorpio friends than any other



...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

hehe well it had to be something it couldnt be my funny face!hehe i have alot of scorpions around me , must be some sort of unspoken thing its weird but i have probably more scorpio friends than any other...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self paragon1685 () Posted by:() Date: May 30, 2009 05:07PM



today's world is that so much of what people do, think,

and feel is considered "healthy"/appropriate/proper, etc;

when, in reality, that's not the case. In other words,

we don't know what's healthy and why; so we really don't

know when the Shadow is at work or not.



I won't even go into the details, because I've been on

(and off) this Board since nearly Day 1, and I can just

imagine some of the (Shadow's) insults that will likely

be hurled at me for even suggesting that many of the

commonly-accepted things people do, think, and feel

might be unhealthy/counterproductive/destructive (to

Self/relationships).



So the only thing I can suggest without bearing the

vicious brunt of people's wounds is to: Know Thyself.



Steve

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[www.rawgosia.com] I think the biggest problem confronting the Shadow intoday's world is that so much of what people do, think,and feel is considered "healthy"/appropriate/proper, etc;when, in reality, that's not the case. In other words,we don't know what's healthy and why; so we really don'tknow when the Shadow is at work or not.I won't even go into the details, because I've been on(and off) this Board since nearly Day 1, and I can justimagine some of the (Shadow's) insults that will likelybe hurled at me for even suggesting that many of thecommonly-accepted things people do, think, and feelmight be unhealthy/counterproductive/destructive (toSelf/relationships).So the only thing I can suggest without bearing thevicious brunt of people's wounds is to: Know Thyself.Steve

Options: Reply•Quote Re: Integrating Shadow aspects of Self Tamukha () Posted by:() Date: May 31, 2009 02:37AM

Steve,



5 points for being cryptic : ) No disagreements with what you say from this corner. Unless, what I think mean and what you actually mean are at opposites. 5 points to me for being obtuse!

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