Parker has also gone chameleonic in the years since his last album — he has collaborated with Travis Scott, Kanye West, Mark Ronson, Lady Gaga and others; also, Rihanna covered one of his songs. And he’s announced his desire to work more aggressively toward making tight pop music, the seeming antithesis of the floaty aesthetic he revels in on Tame Impala albums.

On this week’s Popcast, a conversation about how Parker has built and sustained Tame Impala, and the directions he might explore next.