KH: One of the things we're reacting to—I mean capitalism, white supremacy, those are structures, or that is one structure that makes it so our relationships are commodified and our interactions are commodified and everything's always related to capital— that's one of the things we're trying to think through in the space and how we're trying to sustain [the space, without adhering to those structures.] And also in the intentional gatherings that we want to do, it is about human interaction and gathering, centering that, and centering our experiences that aren't usually centered, and quite literally in the models that we're trying to work through—that we'll probably keep working through as more people start to interact with us—is thinking of this public studio as a space, where if you come in and you don't know how to use a machine, I'll teach you how to use this machine. We figure out how much time that took, and that's the amount of time you owe to teach somebody else or contribute in another way. And obviously time is never gonna not be related to money, that's gonna be flexible as well, but that's something we're trying to think through in the literal model of how this space is gonna sustain itself, and always trying to tie it back to relationships between people as opposed to capital.