Last week, Frank Gaffney invited Cliff Kincaid of the right-wing group Accuracy In Media to discuss Pope Francis on his “Secure Freedom Radio” program, and unsurprisingly, neither are fans of the new pope.

After Kincaid railed against the pope for acknowledging the science behind climate change and playing a role in the normalization of diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Cuba, Gaffney said that the pope’s “leftist, if not downright Marxist direction might have gladdened Joseph Stalin’s heart.”

Gaffney, who just led a conference featuring likely Republican presidential candidates Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal, also spoke with Kincaid about how, in Kincaid’s words, the Pope is “sounding much like Obama” with his “socialist nonsense.”

Kincaid alleged that President Obama and Pope Francis are both working together to restore the Soviet Union: “It looks like Pope Francis is working with Obama to reconstitute the old Soviet empire.”