I was notified of a little issue: gathering gear has 10 stacks, so the actual gathering gear bonus should be 70% and not not 7 % .





This is quite relevant and makes filling journals even faster. I'll take out this notification once I have time to fix the numbers .





Thanks for letting me know.

It will take us 107 swings or (107/5 =) 21,4 full nodes to fill one journal.



Assuming a +50% gathering yield because of premium status, we should have 107 + 53,5 = 160,5 raw ore.



Looking back at the first table, we look at the T5 base yield at 100% happiness, which is 32.



So just on a base level, getting 32 extra ore from harvesting 160,5 ore is pretty big.



About 20% extra if I’m not looking at this wrong? (correct me, its late :D)



Let's start with the easy one and assume the laborer happiness is not 100%, but 150% (the cap), which in turn would make our laborer return 48 resources (32 * 1.5) and then we hit a 30% bonus on the base yield.



on the base yield. Next, we can assume a properly progressed gatherer who has 50 specialization in one resource type. 50 specialization equals 25% resource yield bonus, which counts for our journal filling. This guy now only needs about 85 swings (17 nodes) to fill a book, which again assuming 150% happiness and a 50% premium bonus will result in a base gathering yield of 127,5 (85+42,5), for which we will in return receive 48 additional resources. 37,6% ?



Now we can play around and estimate a realistic +yield bonus % that is the average, to get a real number. Let's assume everyone will always use gathering gear (7% yield) and a pork pie (15% yield) for a base yield bonus of 22%. But I’ll leave that to you to figure out how much you are gathering on average.



Because its fun, let's assume the highest possible (but unrealistic) journal filling machine. (100 spec, gathering gear, 7.3 pie = 79.5% yield bonus) This dude hits a node and instead of filling it for 22,5 gets about 40 journal filling-fame per swing out of it, which results in about 12 nodes to fill a journal. So instead of 21,4 he will do it with 12 nodes. Add the +79,5% yield, the +50% premium bonus (60 + 48 + 30 = ) is 138 raw T5 with a book in the inventory equals about 35% again.



Tier same tier .0 same tier .1 same tier .2 same tier .3 2 25 3 22,2 4 26,6 13,3 8,8 6,6 5 21,3 10,6 7,1 5,3 6 21,3 10,6 7,1 5,3 7 5,6 2,7 1,8 1,4 8 4,7 2,3 1,6 1,2

Let's assume we harvest T5 ore and fill T5 journals along the way.But now the hard part is happening, which is:One important note that is relevant as well: journals increase your amount of resources you can sell to the market and thus increase your silver / hour, but dohelp you unlock your gathering skills faster. In case you had not realized that yet.Because number games are fun, let's look at how many full nodes you need with no yield bonus to fill one journal (same tier).Now you can make all this a whole lot more complex if you are looking at hourly generation of journals, based on what average rarity of nodes you assume, how much travel time you have between nodes, how full you assume they are and so on - if you are trying to estimate how many laborers you might need on your island.But I don’t have more time today to go into more detail.What is interesting and relevant however, is if I made any mistake calculating all this and how gathering higher tier nodes to fill lower journals works out in practice.And the other problem of course is theto build up laborers for yourself or the question whether or not you want to deal with the hassle to process them yourself or if you are purely interested in making silver and sell your full journals to specialized merchants where you effectively have to leave a reasonable margin, hence reducing the actual bonus % again.If this thread gets a few good answers, I’ll add more to it later and edit OP. Probably specifically at about how much investment you’re looking at if you want to build and run laborers yourself.Oh and I also offer a service where you can just use my (already levelled and maxed happiness) laborers for a little cut , without having to build up a bunch of houses yourself.-- BP.S. this needs love too: wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Journal