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Posted: 2011/01/28, 16:22 Post subject: JFK Assassination - LHO Innocent - Tramps Identified - Shock Quote: Arlen Specter US Senator from Pennsylvania wrote the Warren Report, the official inquiry into President John Kennedy's death, that said Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone shot the President in Dallas Texas 22 November 1963.







Quote: Specter should be hauled before a court of capital jurisdiction, and be required to explain why he neglected the photo that shows Lee Oswald, at the door of the Texas School Book Depository, the building from where he is alleged to have fired, as the shots rang out.







Quote: Do not listen to any BS about Billy Lovelady, there was no Billy Lovelady he is a figment of the imagination of lawyers who want to confute the real issues!







Quote: This shot shows LHO still at the door talking to a uniformed person as the tramps are marched by, the assassination time line indicates that it was some hours before they were taken into custody, sinking the assertion that he took a bus then a taxi away from the scene, and then went to the movies after killing Dallas Police Officer JD Tippets!







Quote: Green Marker - Dealey Plaza where the President was shot at 12:30 pm, Red Marker - Texas Theater where Lee Oswald was allegedly apprehended at 1:50 pm, after allegedly having shot Officer Tippets about a block away at East 10th Street at around 1:08 pm!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5cCzDbtVnM

YouTube - Discovery JFK Assassination



YouTube - Discovery JFK Assassination Quote: Lee Oswald is visible standing at the door of the TSBD at 27 seconds in the above video .. Another little known fact is that Richard Nixon who succeeded Johnson as President, had been in Dallas on the morning of the shooting, he had flown out prior, so it looks like there was collusion from him as well. Back to top martintimothy









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Posted: 2011/01/28, 16:32 Post subject: The Three Tramps

E Howard Hunt



E Howard Hunt Quote: Three tramps were taken into custody in Dallas the day President Kennedy was killed, they were in a rail car on the tracks adjacent to the crime scene.







Quote: The one at the back wearing the hat, has been positively identified by his son St John Hunt, as E Howard Hunt of Watergate fame..







Quote: "Around 1975 I saw a poster about who killed JFK that had a picture of the three tramps, my dad was in the picture!" St John Hunt, Rolling Stone Magazine April 5 2007 .. Study EHH's many works of fiction, to find encoded tracts that portray the truth.



The taller of the other two has been identified as Charles Harrelson, father of TV actor Woody Harrelson.







Barbara Walters Interview, aired March,'97.



Quote: Woody Harrelson grew up in Texas and Ohio, the troubled middle child of three brothers, W. was a self-described momma's boy, he didn't have an alternative -- his father was twice convicted of murder and is still in prison. It was a difficult upbringing at best, but W. eventually stopped acting out and started acting.



B. You know, you've had so much in your own childhood that most kids never have to face. It's fairly well-known, if anyone has read anything about you or talked to you, that when you were seven years old, your father went off to prison, convicted of murder. Tell me how you feel today, what the story is today.



W. Well, he is in prison right now for the killing of a federal judge,







You know, you've had so much in your own childhood that most kids never have to face. It's fairly well-known, if anyone has read anything about you or talked to you, that when you were seven years old, your father went off to prison, convicted of murder. Tell me how you feel today, what the story is today.Well, he is in prison right now for the killing of a federal judge, Quote: W. (with gravity) I think that it was not a fair trial, especially because the guy who supposedly hired my father to commit the murder was later acquitted--on a retrial.



B. Woody, do you think your father is innocent of that second murder? That's what I've heard..



W. I'm not saying my father's a saint, but I think he's innocent of that, yeah..



B. Are you trying to have the case opened up--trying to have it investigated, trying to set him free?



W. Well, let's put it this way--I haven't given up hope.



B. Hmm..You said once that you thought your father was a CIA operative--yes?



W. Yeah he was ..





Charles Harrelson in 1982.



B. How do you know? What proof?



W. Ah see I shouldn't get into this right now. This is where we're gonna get into trouble.



B. But this is something that you feel and that you're trying to work on?



W. I know it's true, but ah you know...(shrugging)



B. Does it make a difference?



Woody, do you think your father is innocent of that second murder? That's what I've heard..I'm not saying my father's a saint, but I think he's innocent of that, yeah..Are you trying to have the case opened up--trying to have it investigated, trying to set him free?Well, let's put it this way--I haven't given up hope.Hmm..You said once that you thought your father was a CIA operative--yes?Yeah he was ..Charles Harrelson in 1982.How do you know? What proof?Ah see I shouldn't get into this right now. This is where we're gonna get into trouble.But this is something that you feel and that you're trying to work on?I know it's true, but ah you know...(shrugging)Does it make a difference? Quote: W. That he was trained by the CIA? Yeah I think it makes a difference, yeah..



The Third Tramp







Quote: Charles Frederick Rogers, wanted in Houston TX for killing and dismembering both his parents in 1965, the press dubbed the killings The Ice Box Murders.







Quote: The young Charles Frederick Rogers pictured above, in graduation robes and in Navy uniform.







Quote: The man at left pictured in a group with Lee Harvey Oswald, who was distributing pamphlets on behalf of the CIA front Fair Play for Cuba Committee in New Orleans, has the same stooped profile and an identical hairline, to the third tramp's hairline in the pic above left center, which resembles the hairline on the left side of the sailor's face.



http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2009/08/houston_101_a_notorious_montro.php







By John Nova Lomax in Crime, Houston 101, Aug. 6 2009 .. On June 23 1965, a concerned relative of elderly couple Fred C. and Edwina Rogers, asked the Houston police to check on the couple, after they hadn't answered the phone for a few days.



By John Nova Lomax in Crime, Houston 101, Aug. 6 2009 .. On June 23 1965, a concerned relative of elderly couple Fred C. and Edwina Rogers, asked the Houston police to check on the couple, after they hadn't answered the phone for a few days. Quote: Houston cop C.M. Bullock, and his partner forced their way into the locked house at 1815 Driscoll in Montrose, and found the the heads, legs and torsos of Mr. and Mrs. Rogers inside their refrigerator.



Fred Rogers had been beaten to death with a hammer and his eyes had been gouged out, his wife had a single bullet wound to the head, both had been dismembered in a bathroom, some of their innards and sex organs were later found in a nearby sewer line, the rest of their remains were never found.



A blood trail led to the bedroom of their reclusive 43 year old son Charles Frederick Rogers, a Navy veteran and UH educated seismologist, who had suddenly quit his job, and mysteriously disappeared several years before, neighbors said that his only communication with his parents, came in the form of notes shoved under the door of his attic bedroom, where police also found a blood stained keyhole saw.



Quote: John R. Craig and A. Rogers Phillip, authors of a 1992 book, claim Rogers was a hit man for the CIA, who along with Charles Harrelson's and E Howard Hunt, were the Grassy Knoll gunmen of JFK assassination lore .. In 1975 Charles Frederick Rogers, was ruled legally dead by Judge Arthur C. Lesher.



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Posted: 2011/01/28, 16:48 Post subject: Who's Who on the Grassy Knoll



Quote: 911 was not the only outrage carried out in broad daylight on American soil .. The other was the killing of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy in Dallas Texas, on 22 November 1963.







Quote: Lethal gunfire came from two directions on the GK, the red spot shows the location of the weapon fired from behind the picket fence some meters past the corner, positively identified as a "Short Sam" version of an AR 15 rifle, in the super enhanced pic a la the Badgeman pic below that has disappeared from the internet, which also positively identifies the third tramp Charles Frederick Rogers as the gunman, the "pinwheel" pattern is where the flash dissipated thru the flash hider at the muzzle.





The figures behind the shooter are Martin Luther and Coretta King!



The figures behind the shooter are Martin Luther and Coretta King! Quote: Download The Moorman Polaroid large file,



http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/moorman/3Moorman_20Whole_20Frame5.jpg



Then use the above negative image as a guide, search for the "pinwheel" pattern, then use photo enhancement software to enlarge and process the image to see the MLK's faces emerge, good software will show the raised foresight of the "Shorty" AR 15, and will positively identify Charles Frederick Rogers, the "third tramp" as the shooter!







Quote: As well shots were from within the Presidential limo .. As the limousine emerged from behind the freeway sign, the driver William Greer turned and looked over his right shoulder, he turned back and while holding the steering wheel with his left hand, retrieved something from under the dash with his right hand.



He then transferred the object in his right hand to his left hand, then turned his head back around to look at the President, and brought his left hand around his body and aimed and fired, what appeared to be a nickel plated .44 Cal revolver, at the President�s head.



http://community-2.webtv.net/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html







Zapruder frame 298 shows that Mary Moorman, and Jean Hill in the red coat were the closest eye witnesses.. in this frame the President has already been hit by a shot believed to have been fired from the Dal Tech building, before Greer, Officer Joseph Smith and Charles Frederick Rogers fired .. the jury is still out as to whether any firing came from the sixth floor of the TSBD, here witnesses make the case for the Limousine Driver shooting JFK!



Zapruder frame 298 shows that Mary Moorman, and Jean Hill in the red coat were the closest eye witnesses.. in this frame the President has already been hit by a shot believed to have been fired from the Dal Tech building, before Greer, Officer Joseph Smith and Charles Frederick Rogers fired .. the jury is still out as to whether any firing came from the sixth floor of the TSBD, here witnesses make the case for the Limousine Driver shooting JFK! Quote: From Fred Newcomb and Perry Adams' book entitled "Murder from Within," � 1975 derived from original research done in Dallas in 1968 when the memories of witnesses were still fresh, Mr. Newcomb's book made the case for the limousine driver shooting JFK so well, that he sent copies to the 1975 Congress and Senate, believing he would be guilty of obstruction of justice" if he did not do so.



These are the witnesses whose statement to Mr. Newcomb and sometimes the Warren commission included the words "in the car."



1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.



2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee."



3. Austin P. Miller - Texas Louisiana Freight Bureau, who stood on the railway overpass overlooking Elm Street was asked by Arlen Spector where the shots came from: His reply was "from right there in the car." Senator Spector just went on to the next question, never asking Miller any specifics. From: Warren Report, New York Times edition, p. 82.



4. Clinton J. Hill. Jacqueline Kennedy's bodyguard reports in Vol. II, pp 38-139 of the Warren Commission Volumes: "I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, and ran to the presidential limousine. Just as I reached it, there was another sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object...it seemed to have some type of echho."



5. Hugh Betzner - Had picture published in Life magazine and was standing right next to the drivers side of the motorcade: He saw a gun in the hand of one of the secret service agents and heard a sound "like firecrackers going off in the car."Link to Betzner�s official statement:



6. Senator Ralph Yarborough - 3rd car back Source: taped interview with Fred Newcomb. "Smelled gunpowder in the car." (statement made to press but not to Warren Commission) He was challenged by Newcomb on the phone and he then said "I must have smelled it coming down from the book depository."







These are the witnesses whose statement to Mr. Newcomb and sometimes the Warren commission included the words "in the car."- school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.- Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee."- Texas Louisiana Freight Bureau, who stood on the railway overpass overlooking Elm Street was asked by Arlen Spector where the shots came from: His reply was "from right there in the car." Senator Spector just went on to the next question, never asking Miller any specifics. From: Warren Report, New York Times edition, p. 82.Jacqueline Kennedy's bodyguard reports in Vol. II, pp 38-139 of the Warren Commission Volumes: "I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, and ran to the presidential limousine. Just as I reached it, there was another sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object...it seemed to have some type of echho."- Had picture published in Life magazine and was standing right next to the drivers side of the motorcade: He saw a gun in the hand of one of the secret service agents and heard a sound "like firecrackers going off in the car."Link to Betzner�s official statement: http://www.jfk-online.com/betzner.html - 3rd car back Source: taped interview with Fred Newcomb. "Smelled gunpowder in the car." (statement made to press but not to Warren Commission) He was challenged by Newcomb on the phone and he then said "I must have smelled it coming down from the book depository." Quote: This is the Moorman Polaroid, enhancement of the corner of the rotunda wall carried out by a supercomputer, revealed from left - a uniformed figure believed to be Gordon H Arnold, talking into a hand held radio to the man pictured below, believed to be Lucien Sarti..







Quote: A Corsican adventurer, accomplice of the so named Umbrella Man whose raised umbrella signaled the shooters, to Arnold's left a uniformed policeman wearing glasses, thought to be Dallas Police Officer Joseph Smith, fires a shotgun .. Cecil B de Mille, is the best guess for the identity of the figure wearing glasses with "Krusty the Clown" hair to his left. Update: Cecil B de Mille died 21 January 1959, in Hollywood.







Quote: Left: Ed Hoffman, above: the Hoffmans in Dealey Plaza November 22 2003. The next figure seen in profile has the same shoulders as deaf mute Ed Hoffman who claims to have been there, the face looking over his right shoulder looks like his wife.







Everette Howard Hunt, Jr. October 9, 1918 - January 23, 2007 was an American author and spy, he worked for the CIA and later the White House under President Richard Nixon, he along with G. Gordon Liddy and others, were the White House's "plumbers," a secret team of operatives charged with fixing "leaks".



Everette Howard Hunt, Jr. October 9, 1918 - January 23, 2007 was an American author and spy, he worked for the CIA and later the White House under President Richard Nixon, he along with G. Gordon Liddy and others, were the White House's "plumbers," a secret team of operatives charged with fixing "leaks". Quote: Hunt, along with Liddy engineered the first Watergate burglary, in the ensuing Watergate Scandal, he was convicted of burglary, conspiracy, and wiretapping eventually serving 33 months in prison. Hunt joined the CIA in 1949, and became station chief in Mexico City in 1950, he and fellow rookie officer William F Buckley Jr worked within the Mexican student movement, Buckley and Hunt remained life long friends.





There is something about William F Buckley that says "Umbrella Man!"



There is something about William F Buckley that says "Umbrella Man!" Quote: William Frank Buckley Jr. November 24, 1925 � February 27, 2008, was an American conservative author and commentator, he founded the political magazine National Review in 1955. He hosted 1429 episodes of the television show Firing Line from 1966 until 1999, he was a nationally syndicated newspaper columnist, whose writing style was famed for its erudition, wit and use of uncommon words.







Feedback says: Good coverage, my understanding of Howard Hunt's deathbed confession, was that the trigger man who was on the grassy knoll was a man named James Files ..have you researched this possibility?



Good coverage, my understanding of Howard Hunt's deathbed confession, was that the trigger man who was on the grassy knoll was a man named James Files ..have you researched this possibility? Quote: Reply I believe that the whole James Files situ is a red herring designed to distract, notwithstanding the wickedness of Files, and that Wim Dankbaar and Jim Marrs are deliberately muddying the waters with this type of material.



The JFK debate is riddled with false flag websites and sham forums, Mr Dankbaar is a polite and co operative man, despite he has banned me from participating in his on line forum at jfkmurdersolved.com!



The same can not be said of Marrs, whose deportment at Waco Texas in 1993 during the siege of Mount Carmel, that resulted in the deaths of as many as eighty eight Branch Davidians, was reprehensible.



Vernon Howell aka David Koresh had pleaded with the Press Corps for a fair hearing, the ATF had entered shooting, and he fired back in defense of his household, Marrs led the response which was mockery and chanting!



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Posted: 2011/01/28, 17:06 Post subject: The Carcano Rifle



Part 1: The assassinations of Kennedy and Oswald as never seen before.

[URL="http://freedocumentaries.org/theatre.php?filmid=235&id=1158&wh=1000x720"]http://freedocumentaries.org/theatre.php?f...158&wh=1000x720[/URL]



The assassinations of Kennedy and Oswald as never seen before.[URL="http://freedocumentaries.org/theatre.php?filmid=235&id=1158&wh=1000x720"]http://freedocumentaries.org/theatre.php?f...158&wh=1000x720[/URL] Quote: This video has taped testimony from Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig in Dallas, who was one of the first into the Texas School Book Depository after John Kennedy was shot, he witnessed the recovery of a rifle identified as a 7.65mm German Mauser.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249DTnfrKMo



Quote: This video has footage of an official looking person carrying a rifle, before the weapon was recovered from atop the boxes!







Quote: The news of President Kennedy�s death arrived here in Australia early Saturday, by noon on Sunday the weapon first stated to be a German Mauser, had become a 6.65mm Italian Mannlicher Carcano, by Monday morning school scuttlebutt was adamant that his driver had shot him, the first item on the school�s agenda that morning, was that no discussion of the crime would be allowed during class.







The dude carrying the rifle looks like Ted Gunderson - Ted Gunder who you might say?



The dude carrying the rifle looks like Ted Gunderson - Ted Gunderyou might say? Quote: He was FBI beaureu chief in Dallas when President K was murdered where he was well and truly in a position to use his FBI credentials to get in close, he was in Memphis Tennessee when Martin Luther King was shot, and he was in Los Angeles when Senator Bobby Kennedy was slain.



He subsequently became one of the principles in the Franklin Case Cover up, which goes back nearly thirty years and includes testimony from Rusty Nelson, that Hunter S Thompson paid him $100,000.00 a time to film snuff killings to the tune of around fifty dead!



The shots of Ted are from Google, remember the footage was shot in 1963 .. in the shot at left above, the straight line at the back of his head is identical to the guy with the rifle's head in the upper shot, while in the shot at right his forelock and his mouth look about right!



Update: Video - The depository revisited - Alyea#2





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WQr4y1j4Gw&feature=related



Video - The depository revisited - Alyea#2 Quote: This video entirely vindicates Roger Craig, though the inset appears unnecessary and tends to obscure vital evidence, there are two rifles visible at 3m 35 seconds, the one with the indent in the woodwork forward of the 'scope mount is the Mannlicher Carcano.



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Posted: 2011/01/28, 17:11 Post subject: Video - Badgeman identities talk



Talk - JFK and the Unspeakable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srstQVfVNEM#t=22m02s



Talk - JFK and the Unspeakable Quote: Dallas police officer Joe Marshall Smith fired on the President, he is the Badgeman in the following photograph.







The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Part 2 - 1 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOIVWvtbFv8#t=6m01s



The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Part 2 - 1 of 5 Quote: Gordon H Arnold is the uniformed figure talking into a hand held radio on the Badgeman pic, standing on Smith's right as he fires on the President.







Quote: Ed Hoffman and his missus are there as well, an unidentified bald guy in horn rimmed glasses makes up the quintet! Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts 1 Day 7 Days 2 Weeks 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months 1 Year Oldest First Newest First

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