It is the interview the football world is talking about, Robbie Fowler in conversation with Anfield genius Jurgen Klopp.

We sent Liverpool legend and Mirror columnist Fowler to the Reds' Champions League final training camp in Marbella to use his knowledge and insight of the game to quiz Klopp.

Part one of the interview saw the pair talk tactics, how to beat Real Madrid and more.

Now, in our second exclusive extract, the Reds boss talks turning down Manchester United, why he'd only manage a football club, not a corporation, and why Liverpool is the perfect fit for his brand of 'socialism'.

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Fowler: As a player and a fan, I can appreciate your genuine passion.

Klopp: I do what I love, I really do what I love and that's the biggest thing. When I passed my A levels, the school head said in front of all the other students: 'I hope you do something in football otherwise I'm not optimistic for you!”

Fowler: How did that go for you?!

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Klopp: It was really hard. It was really hard in that moment I can tell you. But I sit here today and I can train a club like Liverpool...it still feels like a f****** sensation. It's unbelievable!!

Fowler: That brings me on to another thing – Liverpool means something more than a football club to you. I think you're a perfect fit, because your philosophy helps you get the people of this city.

Klopp: It's the other way round too. Yes I felt something special immediately when Mike Gordon called me. I was not ready, I thought it made sense that I had one year off. But I really knew, ok, that is one club that I can not say no to.

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Fowler: You'd surely have your pick of clubs though, there were others.

Klopp: Of course there were other clubs.

Fowler: It is documented Manchester United made an approach, so why Liverpool?

Klopp: “I love the history. I really am a football romantic. I knew I probably can help. They maybe really need me, in this time. I know what I'm good at. When they told me about the problems they had I thought 'ok, yeah, I am probably the really right manager for that club'.

A little thing. Liverpool is a world class brand, big, big, big, but in Melwood, you know it Robbie, it is still a family, nothing else, and you can go in and feel that. I have to develop and improve, sure, but I don't want to go into the office in the morning to wear a tie. That is not me.

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So when you see the pictures – and I realise it as well, by the way – I look still like a player...that's not cool, but that's me. I go in with a baseball cap and they still respect me, I don't have to act in a specific way. They took me like I am, they didn't ask me to do anything else, so I could focus from the first day completely on football.

It is a football club. A FOOTBALL club. I had talks with other clubs and they didn't sound like a football club. It sounded like marketing, image, you need to sign this, you need to sign that. And I thought wow, that's not the game I love. It's all part of football, but it can not be the number one, two, three, four, priority. First of all please try to improve the game we play. And that's what I am good in. All the rest can happen but it's not so important for me.

Fowler: Shankly's beliefs are similar to yours, he always believed in a common effort delivering a common reward that everyone shares in, but he was prepared to take the burden of delivering that.

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Klopp: I can take the pressure, I really can take it. I don't know why, but I can take the pressure. That's very important. Another little agreement with my players: For the good performance, they are responsible. For the bad performance, I am responsible. That is really important. Football players need someone around who is there for them in the decisive moments, and I really feel that is my job to do.

Fowler: I like the support you give to players. We had a fantastic keeper called David James, but he was given the tag Calamity James, which affected his career. I'm a big fan of Dejan Lovren, and you protected him from that.

Klopp: It's true first of all, sometimes players get unfairly treated. Two positions that are really, really difficult to play for Liverpool: goalkeeper and centre half. It's like you can never been good enough, whatever you do, they still say 'we need a world class replacement'.

The Tottenham game I was angry. It wasn't I was saying, 'boys, never mind it can happen, forget about it'. Not even one per cent of that. I was really angry. I took Dejan off after 25 minutes and I didn't speak to him afterwards. But then a few days later I saw him waiting for my talk, so I said, come in. 'You took me off after 20 minutes'. Because you were bad.

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But I said to him - maybe this was the decisive moment when he got it - I think he's a world class centre half, 100 per cent. Yes with weakness, concentration can happen from time to time, could be harder here, whatever. But he is a world class centre half, otherwise he would not be here any more.

Kolo Toure left, Martin Skrtel left, Mama Sakho left, a lot of centre halves we had all left. He's still here, I am not blind and I am not silly. Especially because the whole crowd would be happy if we do it – it would be easy (to let him go). But I am completely convinced about him. That is all there is to it. So he hears I think he's a world class centre half, and that maybe helped him, I don't know. But it's really the thing that players need help in these moments, and they need a clear opinion.

They respect me, so if I think they are good, then they start thinking themselves they are good. And Dejan Lovren is 100 per cent a world class player.

Fowler: Little things like that go a long way for players. I know how much it helps them.

Klopp: Yeah, but it came from him, because I thought he needed to know by himself. It's not that I go around telling everybody how fantastic they are. I expect really hard work, and I expect they are mature, that they are ready for the fight out there. It's not that it's easy. We now play Real Madrid...

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Klopp on being "really normal" outside of football

Fowler: For me you are the same person, inside and outside football. I get the impression a lot of managers are false, but for me, you are what you are.

Klopp: That is 100 per cent true with me. I don't think other managers are different. I know a lot and most of them are really nice as fellas. But one skill I have – and there are not many! - is that I am really not interested in the public perception of me. I can not be best friend of everybody. So during a game I am very emotional, that is how it is. Less than I was because even I get more mature. But I am still emotional.

Outside the game though, I really am normal. I know it's a famous saying now, but I'm really normal. Completely normal life. In a bigger house yes, and I have more money than other people – but I don't need it. I don't use it because I don't have time to spend it.

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Fowler: You can always give it to us....

Klopp: I know, a lot of people will say that. But it's not that I think how can I spend the money, I do what I love, I really do what I love and that's the biggest thing I could ever control.

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Fowler: The history of the club, and the philosophy of managers like Shankly – who always believed in a kind of football socialism – seems to fit perfectly with your beliefs?

Klopp: I never wanted to be them. It is not possible. The times have really changed. The good thing is, because of them, the job of the manager of Liverpool is really different, in a good way. You really think they put you on a pedestal and it takes a while before they take you off again – and that gives you time, which is very important.

But I never think about being seen like Shankly. It is really not about me. I have no clue where all my medals are. I love being around a team which is going to be part of a Champions' League final, and for me that is unbelievable.

Part three of the exclusive chat between Fowler and Klopp will be available on the Mirror Football website on Thursday evening.