Our latest podcast guest is Richard Hatch, the winner of the first season of Survivor, where he basically created the whole concept of an alliance.

Hatch also competed on the 8th season of the show (Survivor: All-Stars) in 2004. In 2011, he was on Celebrity Apprentice, and last year, he appeared on The Biggest Loser: Temptation Nation. Along the way, he spent time in jail over unpaid taxes, though he maintains his innocence in the matter.

With the new season of Survivor set to premiere this week, we spoke about whether he’ll be returning to the show he helped popularize, his journey out of religion, and whether there’s anything redeeming about Donald Trump.

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