Those experiences are the things that shape you, though.

I think in England, it tarnishes you. Some people can appreciate if you're open and honest, but there's that other percent that pretend to be squeaky clean. Skepta says, "Say you don't eat pork, don't eat pussy/ Liar, you're just an actor." In England, there could be someone who's like "Yeah man, I don’t [eat pussy],” but behind closed doors they do. In America it's like, "Yeah I do.”



Donald Trump is the president[-elect] of America. Donald Trump said "grab them by the pussy." When I hear that, I'm like, That sounds like sexual assault. But he's the president of the United States so maybe [American people] find that funny. I don't know. I know for a fact anyone in England who was running for Prime Minister, if that came out of their mouth in a campaign, they wouldn't get elected. Even Obama, [the U.S. have] had an Obama. We will never have anyone of color living in 10 Downing Street, ever.



You talk about that in your verse on P Money’s “Gunfingers,” don't you?

Yeah, "Living in Number 10 Downing Street you will never see a black man." You never will; it's not part of the heritage.



You used to want to tour America, but you couldn't go because of your visa being declined. Now Trump’s in power, do you still want to go?

I do. When I go to America I like to eat all the different food, buy all the sick [sneakers], go to all the hoods and get all the weed I need to get. But on another level, the police brutality, I don't agree with that. I watched a documentary called The 13th, and I don't agree with none of that. I'm not from [the U.S.], but my black brothers, I'm with you and I love you and I stand with you.

If you were Prime Minister of the U.K., what would be the main thing you would want to change?



I wouldn't want to be the Prime Minister. I have big lips and a flat nose. As much as I'm an English citizen, I don't agree with the years and years of slavery, the setbacks — mentally, psychologically, the shit our people have gone through. I don’t blame this Prime Minister either because obviously she wasn't there all those years ago, but she's part of the agenda that keeps it going.



Things can change. What I'm saying is; I'd rather teach the people the truth instead of bullshitting them, I'd rather you understand Bob Marley's message instead of just singing "One love...Let's get together and feel alright." I want you to sing along, but I would love for you to get the message more.