Lin-Manuel Miranda was a guest on Marc Maron’s podcast “WTF” yesterday, where he revealed that he and rapper Immortal Technique go way back—though not all the memories are fond, as Pigeons and Planes points out. “He was our school bully. He terrorized kids, he threw them in the garbage,” Miranda said. “I got thrown in the garbage by him.”

Miranda also remembers acting alongside Immortal Technique (born Felipe Coronel) in a school play. He said, “I was like, ‘Oh my god, I’m in a fucking play with the dude that scares the shit out of all my friends!’ He was a really angry kid, and it’s been wonderful to watch him grow up and find a political outlet for that anger.” Manuel also confirmed in a tweet that he has “nothing but love for [Immortal Technique].”

Find the full episode with Miranda here.