An interview about body image yielded surprising revelations from singer Sam Smith, who told actor Jameela Jamil during an episode of I Weigh Interviews that “I am not male or female. I think I float somewhere in between.” The wide-ranging interview also saw the 26-year-old “Writing’s on the Wall” singer revealing liposuction treatments in his early youth.

Smith appeared on an episode of Jamil’s Instagram-based series, noting, “I've always been very free in terms of thinking about sexuality, so I’ve just tried to change that into my thoughts on gender as well.” He further clarified identifying as genderqueer, stating “Non-binary/genderqueer is that you do not identify in a gender. You are a mixture of all different things. You are your own special creation.” And while individuals identifying as non-binary can sometimes prefer the pronoun “they” in place of “he” or “she,” Smith noted he will continue to use male pronouns for the time being.

“I’ve sometimes sat and questioned, do I want a sex change? It’s something I still think about: ‘Do I want to?’ I don’t think it is,” Smith told Jamil during the exchange. “When I saw the word non-binary, genderqueer, and I read into it, and I heard these people speaking, I was like, ‘Fuck, that is me.’”

Smith revealed that he struggled with his body image from an early age, including that carrying extra estrogen led to developing breasts and subsequent bullying from classmates. He even agreed to liposuction treatments at age 12 to reduce the weight in his chest, though, he said, “I think I put the weight back on in two weeks because I hadn’t figured out my relationship with food, so it didn’t really change anything.”

Smith described weight issues as “the basis of all my sadness”—which continued well into adulthood. The interview itself took place several months ago, as Smith noted in a Twitter post, adding that the discussion “completely changed my life.” In February, Smith also posted about his body image on Instagram.

“Some may take this as narcissistic and showing off but if you knew how much courage it took to do this and the body trauma I have experienced as a kid you wouldn’t think those things,” he wrote. “I’ll always be at war with this bloody mirror but this shoot and this day was a step in the right fucking direction.”