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Krassner vs Breitbart



Author Paul Krassner







Few people have more street cred with American liberals than Paul

Krassner. He published the groundbreaking satirical magazine The

Realist (1958=E2=80=932001). People called him the father of the underground

press. (He immediately demanded a paternity test.) He was a co-founder

of the Youth International Party, or Yippies. He received the Feminist

Party Media Workshop Award for journalism and the ACLU Uppie (Upton

Sinclair) Award for freedom of speech. He was inducted into the

Counterculture Hall of Fame at the Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam, and in

December 2010 the writers organization PEN honored him with its

Lifetime Achievement Award. =E2=80=9CI want to say how happy this award mak=

es

me,=E2=80=9D he concluded his acceptance speech, =E2=80=9Cand the only thin=

g that

makes me happier is that it=E2=80=99s not posthumous.=E2=80=9D At the age o=

f 79 he

runs PaulKrassner.com and is working on his first novel.



Andrew Breitbart is 42, and his goal is =E2=80=9Cto take down the

institutional left,=E2=80=9D a job he attacks with gusto and much success. =

He

describes himself as a Reagan conservative with libertarian

sympathies. He has written for The Wall Street Journal and The

Washington Times, was an editor of the Drudge Report and a researcher

for Arianna Huffington and helped create the Huffington Post. He

currently oversees a group of his own controversial online blog sites,

Breitbart.tv, =C2=ADBreitbart .com, BigHollywood .Breitbart.com, Big

=C2=ADGovernment.com, BigPeace .com and =C2=ADBigJournalism .com=E2=80=94=

=E2=80=9Cto hold the

mainstream media=E2=80=99s feet to the fire=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94and he plans t=

o launch

=C2=ADBigEducation.com, which will take on the academic establishment. He

has been a commentator on Fox News and is the author of Righteous

Indignation: Excuse Me While I Save the World! In February 2010 he was

honored with the Reed Irvine Accuracy in Media Award at the

Conservative Political Action Conference in =C2=ADWashington, D.C.



Krassner thought it might be fun if he rang up his longtime cultural

adversary and invited him to sit down and discuss their differences

and similarities. Breitbart wanted to meet at Applebee=E2=80=99s, says

Krassner, but the actual location remains a secret. The result, we

think you=E2=80=99ll agree, is one hell of an interesting dialogue.





KRASSNER: I was surprised to learn you consider my work to be one of

your inspirations. You also claim that the mainstream media had a

double standard and didn=E2=80=99t criticize me the way they do you and the

conservative movement that you represent. That=E2=80=99s not true, though.

I=E2=80=99ve been excoriated in papers from the Los Angeles Times to the

Chicago Tribune to The Washington Post. My favorite headline was give

this man a saliva test. You=E2=80=99ve also praised Abbie Hoffman and the

Yippies and Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters as heavy influences.

Both those men were close friends of mine and remain my touchstones,

and yet you=E2=80=99re at the other end of the social and political spectru=

m.

What I want to know is, how do they fit into the context of your

personal mission?



BREITBART: Well, at the time you were doing what you were doing,

trailblazing and causing mischief and mirth and effecting the type of

political and social change you were attempting, there=E2=80=99s no doubt y=

ou

were being challenged by others. What I=E2=80=99m talking about is the curr=

ent

order of the media in the 21st century and how history now looks on

the Merry Pranksters, Abbie Hoffman, Ken Kesey and Hunter =C2=ADThompson

with great reverence. It=E2=80=99s as if they=E2=80=99ve been given their o=

wn wing of

the journalism school. I don=E2=80=99t want to simplify history. I understa=

nd

that, at the time, you went through hell, and the same could be said

of Matt Drudge. From 1995 until about 2002 the same forces were trying

to claim that Matt Drudge had no right to be doing what he was doing,

which everybody now accepts as commonplace and accepted =C2=ADpractice=E2=

=80=94AOL

just purchased the Huffington Post for $315 million for replicating,

on a left-of-center bent, what Matt Drudge does. So the trailblazers,

while they=E2=80=99re trailblazing, can have slings and arrows hurled at th=

em,

and I=E2=80=99m not trying to diminish the peril you went through. I=E2=80=

=99m stating

that right now, when I=E2=80=99m reporting truths on Wednesday and causing

mirth on Thursday, the press has a problem with that. I=E2=80=99m saying no,

you=E2=80=99re not going to define me; I=E2=80=99m going to define what I d=

o, and

you=E2=80=99re going to have to deal with it. I gained my inspiration from =

the

knowledge that you guys went through the same process, and I=E2=80=99m using

you as models.



KRASSNER: In your book you write, =E2=80=9CMan, how I long for the days of =

Sam

Kinison, Richard Pryor, Abbie Hoffman, Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, George

Carlin and Lenny Bruce, and today the only people upholding their

free-speech legacies are conservatives like Ann Coulter and Rush

Limbaugh.=E2=80=9D At first I thought you must be kidding. What about Louis

C.K., Chris Rock, Sarah Silverman, Lewis Black, Margaret Cho, Marc

Maron, Rick Overton, Harry Shearer, Kathy =C2=ADGriffin, Wanda Sykes,

Richard Lewis, Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, =C2=ADStephen Colbert, Larry David,

Rachel Maddow, Paul Provenza? The place is overflowing with liberals

upholding their free-speech legacies.



BREITBART: I would say that they exist within a protected class for

the most part. As long as they adhere to liberal orthodoxy, they=E2=80=99re

protected and can say anything against anyone at any time. It=E2=80=99s the

conservatives who are challenged by the reigning order of political

correctness. There=E2=80=99s nothing transformative or dangerous about a

liberal in Hollywood or a Sarah Silverman or a Chris Rock being

offensive, because they know they=E2=80=99re granted a =E2=80=9Cget out of =

jail free=E2=80=9D

card, whereas Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter exist outside that

comfortable order. So I=E2=80=99m rooting for those people over the ones li=

ke

Jon Stewart, who are in a protected class.



KRASSNER: By the way, I was once on a TV panel with Ann Coulter, and

during a commercial break I suggested to her that the labels

=E2=80=9Cconservative=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cliberal=E2=80=9D had become obs=

olete. I asked her what she

thought might be appropriate substitute labels. =E2=80=9CAmericans and

cowards,=E2=80=9D she said.



BREITBART: I love Ann Coulter to the core of my being. Nobody humors

me more. If there=E2=80=99s anyone I want to have a dinner with and who can

have me on the floor laughing=E2=80=94and her laugh is infectious, and to

anybody who knows her, she is just a star. Anyone on the left who

would spend five minutes with her would be laughing, and in puddles of

their own urine laughing, even when she=E2=80=99s making fun of them. Lefti=

sts

have an inability to have a sense of humor about their sanctimony.



KRASSNER: But humor is totally subjective. You=E2=80=99ve said that Bill Ay=

ers

probably wrote Barack Obama=E2=80=99s memoir Dreams From My Father, but to =

me

that=E2=80=99s an obvious joke. Ayers has said, =E2=80=9CI wrote that book,=

and if you

could help me prove it, I=E2=80=99ll split the royalties with you.=E2=80=9D=

On the

other hand, those billionaire Koch brothers, the notorious oil

merchants who oppose reducing air pollution, when they claimed that

smog prevents skin cancer, I thought that was a joke. But they had

actually hired a think tank that somehow managed to come up with that

conclusion.



BREITBART: I believe Bill Ayers is a moral relativist, and I think

he=E2=80=99s protecting his intense and long-standing relationship with Bar=

ack

Obama. The history of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn with the

Obamas=E2=80=94they helped usher Barack Obama into his political origins,

which started in their house, in essence. Of course the media are

going to downplay his relationship with Ayers, an unrepentant radical

domestic terrorist. Of course they=E2=80=99re going to protect Obama. They

protected him from Reverend Jeremiah Wright, who was his spiritual

mentor for 20 years, and from his relationship with Father Michael

Pfleger. The most controversial thing they could glean from my book on

the left was that I believe, based on his writing on Dreams From My

Father, that Jack Cashill makes an incredibly compelling argument that

Ayers performed the mundane task of ghostwriting a politician=E2=80=99s

memoirs. It=E2=80=99s what everyone does. Every politician has a ghostwrite=

r,

and I believe to the core of my being that Ayers was the logical

writer of Dreams From My Father. If you don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s co=

mpelling,

then don=E2=80=99t think it. It=E2=80=99s just what I happen to think. I do=

n=E2=80=99t think

it=E2=80=99s even a controversial point. One is allowed to draw conclusions

based on well-argued writing.



KRASSNER: In your capacity as Tea Party protector, you must be aware

of the blatant disconnect between its plea for small government and

its desire for social issues to be controlled by the government.



BREITBART: I don=E2=80=99t know what you=E2=80=99re talking about.



KRASSNER: I=E2=80=99ll give you a few examples related to my own experience.

One would be abortion rights. During the 1960s, when abortion was

still illegal, if a woman was a victim of botched back-alley surgery

and went to a hospital, they were required to call the police, who

would not allow a doctor to give her a painkiller before interrogating

her. I ran a free underground abortion-referral service and was

subpoenaed by district attorneys in two cities, but I refused to

testify. Two, marijuana decriminalization. My position is that as long

as any government can arbitrarily decide which drugs are legal and

which are illegal, then anyone behind bars for a =C2=ADnonviolent drug

offense is a political prisoner. I started smoking pot in 1965, and I

still do, only now it=E2=80=99s medical. And three, gay rights, from =E2=80=

=9Cdon=E2=80=99t

ask, don=E2=80=99t tell=E2=80=9D to same-sex marriage, which is not the sli=

ghtest

threat to heterosexual marriage. I mean, take Arnold Schwarzenegger,

Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, John Edwards, David Vitter=E2=80=94please! In

1979 I covered the trial of Dan White for The San Francisco Bay

Guardian. He had killed progressive mayor George Moscone and openly

gay supervisor Harvey Milk.



BREITBART: Dan White was a Democrat, and Harvey Milk was a libertarian.



KRASSNER: I=E2=80=99ll put those labels aside, though. When White was

sentenced to only seven years for a double political assassination, I

got caught in the middle of a postverdict riot at city hall. I was

beaten by two cops shouting homophobic epithets=E2=80=94it made no differen=

ce

to them that I was straight=E2=80=94and as a result I now have to walk with=

a

cane. Anyway, how do you react to the conservative movement=E2=80=99s

inconsistency about less government in their lives?



BREITBART: I don=E2=80=99t know what evidence you=E2=80=99re offering that =

the Tea

Party is focusing on any of those issues. The Tea Party is a bizarre

amalgam of independents, conservatives and libertarians who have

surgically excised the social issues from the table, and the people in

those crowds have diverse opinions on all the things you mentioned. I

happen to be pro-marijuana, certainly marijuana decriminalization, but

I=E2=80=99m not asserting myself and my social views in this current

environment. If you can=E2=80=99t see and if the media don=E2=80=99t want t=

o see that

the Tea Party is about financial restraint and has nothing to do with

social issues=E2=80=94=C2=ADnothing, nothing, nothing=E2=80=94to the conste=

rnation of the

social conservatives. I=E2=80=99ve had rifts and schisms with social

conservatives over my stances on these issues. They can call me a

libertarian if they want. I don=E2=80=99t care what labels they call me. But

the Tea Party is abused by the mainstream media, which misinform the

public of what their rights are. Their rights are specific to the

expansion of government and the inability to rein in budgets. And by

spending money on things that don=E2=80=99t work, we=E2=80=99re putting our=

children

in economic peril, period. It has nothing to do with marijuana, it has

nothing to do with abortion, it has nothing to do with gay marriage.

There are gay people in the Tea Party. There are people of all

different social stripes within the Tea Party who have a singular

focus on restraining government debt and applying constitutional

principles.



KRASSNER: When Who=E2=80=99s Who in America invited me to fill out a form f=

or

inclusion in the book, where it asked for my political affiliation I

wrote =E2=80=9CIndependent Dupe,=E2=80=9D and that=E2=80=99s how it has me =

listed. It=E2=80=99s

interesting to see how in America the free-enterprise system has

become intertwined with democracy, and in the process socialism has

become a dirty word.



BREITBART: It is a dirty word.



KRASSNER: It=E2=80=99s revealing that Norman Thomas ran for president six

times as the Socialist Party candidate, and though he was defeated in

each election, over the past several decades every one of his platform

planks has been adopted by both Republican and Democratic

administrations. The laws they passed just weren=E2=80=99t labeled socialis=

t.

Now, I have no economic ideology, but I realize there is something

wrong with capitalism. I realized it as I read the business section

all those years before the recession was officially declared. I

noticed day after day these news items about hundreds of employees

being let go by different corporations, and yet their shareholders

were pleased because the value of their stocks went up. There=E2=80=99s

something wrong with that. In the insurance industry especially, greed

became a preexisting condition.



BREITBART: Well, I think I lean more toward being an independent

conservative, in that I see problems with the Republican Party, with

its lack of consistency in its point of view and its unwillingness to

fight for conservative principles. I controversially support people

like Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Allen West and Rick Perry, people

who are either sort of in the Tea Party sphere or in the more

independent sphere of the conservative movement, who feel less

represented by the Republican Party. I=E2=80=99ve come to appreciate the

emancipation of that independence. If anybody came to me with a

scandal that involved blatant wrongdoing by a Republican, I would be

blissful to report it. But when the mainstream media are so naturally

left of center, people can go to ABC, CBS and NBC with those types of

stories and they will get maximum coverage. So people end up coming to

me only when they have stories that perhaps hurt liberals or

Democrats, because they know that if they go to ABC, CBS or NBC the

door will be closed on them. I wouldn=E2=80=99t recommend that a person who

knows of a scandal involving a Republican come to me, because they can

simply go to The New York Times and it will be exposed. But somebody

should test me, because I would be happy to report on corruption

within the Republican Party. I would like to think that my team, the

people I relate to ideologically, hold themselves to a higher

standard.



KRASSNER: Do you mean that if somebody sent you photos of Rick Perry

that were like the Anthony Weiner photos, you would =C2=ADpublish them?



BREITBART: No doubt. Would I have the same level of enthusiasm? No,

because I expected nothing from Anthony Weiner, and I respect Governor

Perry. But he has further to fall. It would be more disappointing and

more worthy of exposure, because he=E2=80=99s supposed to represent a higher

standard.



KRASSNER: I want to get to the topic of religion. As an atheist and an

absurdist, the most absurd thing I could do is to develop an ongoing

relationship with a deity I don=E2=80=99t believe exists. So as a stand-up

comic, before a performance I would say, =E2=80=9CPlease, God, help me do a

good show,=E2=80=9D and then I would hear the voice of God bellow, =E2=80=

=9CShut up,

you superstitious fool.=E2=80=9D Actually, I stopped being a militant athei=

st

in the 1960s when I realized that Martin Luther King Jr. was a

Christian whose actions I admired, whereas George Lincoln Rockwell,

the head of the American Nazi Party, was an agnostic whose actions I

disdained. So I no longer care what anybody believes instead of what

they do, whether they=E2=80=99re kind or cruel to others. I call myself a

secular humanist, and you call yourself a secular Jew. I=E2=80=99m curious =

as

to how that informs your views on controversies from circumcision to

the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. For example, as a baby I was

circumcised against my will, and now, when San Francisco considers

outlawing circumcision, I=E2=80=99m torn between=E2=80=94=E2=80=94



BREITBART: Torn between?



KRASSNER: Yeah, that=E2=80=99s a poor verb. I=E2=80=99m trapped between=E2=

=80=94=E2=80=94



BREITBART: Ripped apart.



KRASSNER: Yeah, that=E2=80=99ll do it. I=E2=80=99m ripped apart between fre=

edom of

religion and genital mutilation as a form of child abuse. As for the

Middle East, I said to God, =E2=80=9CYou=E2=80=99re supposed to be all-know=

ing, and so

you knew in advance that designating Palestine as the promised land

for Jews would have devastating consequences.=E2=80=9D And I heard the voice

of God boom out, =E2=80=9CI never promised land to the Jewish people; I only

said, =E2=80=98I=E2=80=99ll see what I can do.=E2=80=99=E2=80=89=E2=80=9D B=

ut getting back to what being a

secular Jew means to you=E2=80=94=E2=80=94



BREITBART: Well, first of all, from first-hand experience, I love my

perfectly crafted bell end. [laughs] I think penile sculpture as

religion is above my pay grade. I wouldn=E2=80=99t equate it with

clitorectomies and the depravities you see in Islamic culture and what

they do to women for punitive purposes. Given the fact that I have a

circumcised penis, it=E2=80=99s too damn sensitive, quite frankly.



KRASSNER: I thought it takes away from sensitivity.



BREITBART: Well, if it does, I=E2=80=99m still too sensitive. I may need a

shot or an extra cut. Here=E2=80=99s how I look at it. I used to be an

atheist, and I became an agnostic, and now I exist in a place where I

say I bat third on the Judeo-Christian softball team. I=E2=80=99ve had too

many things happen in my life that, as my father-in-law, Orson Bean,

says, there=E2=80=99s no such thing as coincidences. I=E2=80=99m starting t=

o doubt my

doubts. But I would still say I=E2=80=99m an agnostic who, when watching the

debate between Dinesh D=E2=80=99Souza and Christopher Hitchens, I=E2=80=99m=

usually

laughing and slapping my knee with Hitchens but rooting for D=E2=80=99Souza.

I=E2=80=99m desirous of moving toward the Judeo-Christian side. In the past=

I

took solace in my agnosticism. One reason is that, during my agnostic

years=E2=80=94I call them my nihilistic years=E2=80=94during which I lived =

in a world

of moral relativism and not believing in objective truths, I didn=E2=80=99t

sleep well at night. I was living in a world of moral chaos. The more

I started to listen to people like Dennis Prager and rational people

who were religious=E2=80=94not fly-by-nights like Tammy Faye Bakker, Jimmy

Swaggart and Benny Hinn. When you get past the hucksters and get to

people like David Mamet, who now speaks of Judeo-Christianity, and

Dennis Prager, it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the nihilism I

embraced. I now find myself fighting alongside many Christians and

Jews who believe Judeo-Christianity is the backbone of American

culture. Until somebody gives me a better replacement than

Judeo-=C2=ADChristianity, I=E2=80=99m not going to be part of the team that=

=E2=80=99s

trying to tear down that pillar and replace it with nihilism and

cultural and moral relativism.



KRASSNER: I know you feel strongly about people succumbing to

political correctness. As a performer I=E2=80=99m a living paradox.

Irreverence is my only sacred cow, yet I try not to let victims become

the target of my humor. There was one specific routine I stopped using

in 1970. It called for a =E2=80=9Crape-in=E2=80=9D of legislators=E2=80=99 =

wives=E2=80=94most

legislators then were men=E2=80=94in order to impregnate them so they would

then convince their husbands to decriminalize abortion. My feminist

friends objected. I resisted at first because it was such a

well-=C2=ADintentioned joke, but I reconsidered. Even in a joke, why should

women be assaulted because men make the laws? Legislators=E2=80=99 wives we=

re

the victims in that joke, but the legislators themselves and their

laws should have been the target. For me to stop doing that bit of

comedy wasn=E2=80=99t censorship, it was conscious evolution. It wasn=E2=80=

=99t

political correctness, it was simple respect. However, in 1982 the

Radical Humor Festival at New York University sponsored an evening of

radical comedy. The next day my performance was analyzed by an

unofficial women=E2=80=99s caucus. Robin Tyler, who said, =E2=80=9CI am not=

a lesbian

comic; I am a comic who is a lesbian,=E2=80=9D served as the spokesperson f=

or

their conclusions. What had caused a stir was my reference to the use

of turkey basters by single mothers-to-be who were attempting to

impregnate themselves by artificial insemination. Tyler explained to

me, =E2=80=9CYou have to understand some women still have a hang-up about

penetration.=E2=80=9D But freedom of absurdity transcends gender difference.

=E2=80=9CYeah,=E2=80=9D I said, =E2=80=9Cbut you have to understand some me=

n still feel

threatened by turkey basters.=E2=80=9D



BREITBART: First of all, there=E2=80=99s a difference between political

correctness and human kindness. I have a specific definition of what

political correctness is, and you sort of touched on it by the

reference to a lesbian comedian having to differentiate her cultural

identity: =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m a comic who happens to be a lesbian.=E2=80=

=9D That=E2=80=99s the

problem: Cultural Marxism is political correctness, and political

correctness is the translation of Marxist economic theories from the

battle between the haves and the have-nots into the battle of the

oppressor versus the oppressed. And so, given the oppressor-oppressed

model, the oppressed get to maintain a permanent place of judgment

against the oppressors, and blacks get to judge whites and say,

=E2=80=9CYou=E2=80=99re not allowed to say that,=E2=80=9D but whites aren=

=E2=80=99t allowed to say to

blacks, =E2=80=9CChris Rock, you=E2=80=99re not allowed to make that joke a=

t the

expense of white people, because you=E2=80=99re the oppressor. It=E2=80=99s=

okay for

us to make fun of you.=E2=80=9D This double standard has created a huge

quandary in our country=E2=80=94that somehow there=E2=80=99s a type of affi=

rmative

action whereby one group is allowed to castigate, excoriate, demean

and defile the other as some form of cultural reparations. All it does

in my mind is exacerbate the underlying social rifts, and I reject it

wholly. I love Chris Rock, I love Sarah =C2=ADSilverman, but I also think

Sam Kinison and Andrew Dice Clay should be afforded the same rule

book. I remember watching back in the late 1980s when political

correctness started to take over the comedy world, and the Sam

Kinisons and Andrew Dice Clays were marginalized and excoriated for

their routines, and today Sarah =C2=ADSilverman and Chris Rock get away

with much harsher cultural criticism. I want to exist in a world where

comedy functions as an exhaust system so that all members of our

society can go into that comedy room, into the Improv, and let it all

hang out. When Tracy Morgan is forced to go to a reeducation camp

because he=E2=80=99s offended gay sensibilities, I don=E2=80=99t think it d=

oes anyone

in the gay community any favors that they show they don=E2=80=99t have the

ability to laugh at themselves. I love Caucasian jokes, I love Jew

jokes. All I can say is, I like equal opportunity offenders. It is not

political correctness to be outraged when somebody goes after Trig

Palin because he=E2=80=99s mentally challenged. That=E2=80=99s just pure cr=

udeness and

beyond inappropriate. I guess it=E2=80=99s sort of like the Supreme Court

definition of obscenity=E2=80=94you know offense when you see it, and there=

is

a difference between political correctness and saying something that=E2=80=

=99s

just beyond the realm of propriety.



KRASSNER: Wouldn=E2=80=99t you apply that standard to Rush Limbaugh when he

made fun of Michael J. Fox?



BREITBART: No, I wouldn=E2=80=99t. Rush was making a political point.



KRASSNER: Which was?



BREITBART: From what I recall, and I think it was proved to be true,

he chose not to take the medicines that calm his symptoms of

Parkinson=E2=80=99s so that when he did his ad, he was shaking more than he

ordinarily would in order to rev up the volume of the issue, to pour

oil on the fire over the issue of stem cells=E2=80=94to create the percepti=

on

that if you are for stem cell research, you=E2=80=99re for stopping this

shaking. That was my perception of it. Accusing Hollywood and liberals

of using emotionalism to push an intellectual argument is incredibly

fair game.



KRASSNER: I understand that the epiphany that caused you to make a

political right turn occurred while you were watching the hearings

about Clarence Thomas=E2=80=99s nomination to the Supreme Court. You were

genuinely convinced that the treatment of him was racist. I thought he

was lying when he testified under oath that he had never discussed the

subject of abortion, because in response to a question by Senator Hank

Brown, Anita Hill testified that she had disagreed with Thomas in a

discussion about Roe v. Wade. But then-senator Joe Biden quickly

interrupted her, saying, =E2=80=9CThat is not the subject of these hearings=

.=E2=80=9D



BREITBART: I was upset because it was clear the left and the Democrat

media complex=E2=80=94that=E2=80=99s my description for the natural allianc=

e of the

Democratic Party, liberal interest groups and the mainstream

media=E2=80=94chose to put on a show trial by accusing Clarence Thomas of

sexual harassment and then had absolutely nothing to back it up. The

pretense of this show trial was clearly abortion rights, but they were

willing to embarrass him as much as possible, and the mainstream media

allowed this to go on without challenge. He=E2=80=99s sitting there and

they=E2=80=99re asking him whether or not he=E2=80=99s rented pornography s=

tarring

Long Dong Silver, and the point is? The point is, I guess, to make

this conservative look like he=E2=80=99s a hypocrite because he enjoys sex.

But if the whole point of Roe v. Wade is a right to privacy, these

people invaded his privacy and publicly embarrassed him by flaunting

what they found out about his private life. I found it to be utterly

hypocritical. To watch cads and manslaughter and human sexual

harassment machinery like Ted Kennedy sitting in judgment of him was

beyond the pale. And one year later, to watch the same crowd that had

i believe anita bumper stickers, that had said the threshold for

sexual harassment is so low that if you mention you see a pubic hair

on a Coke can it=E2=80=99s sexual harassment=E2=80=94for those same people,=

the same

Democratic Party, the same Democrat media complex to anoint Bill

Clinton as their standard-bearer, I couldn=E2=80=99t take the hypocrisy. I =

was

writhing in pain. It didn=E2=80=99t mean I immediately went to the supermar=

ket

and signed up to become a Republican. I just started to challenge the

media narrative that was being handed to me, because I saw how

disingenuous that complex was.



KRASSNER: As a Supreme Court Justice, Thomas has declared that the

Constitution gives states a right to establish an official religion,

that prisoners have no constitutional right to be protected from

beatings by guards, that a school official is allowed to strip-search

a 13-year-old girl to look for two extra-strength ibuprofen pills,

that a key part of the Voting Rights Act giving blacks political power

in the South should be struck down, that an American citizen could be

held as an enemy combatant with no charges and no hearing. He

announced a decision that threw out a verdict in favor of a black man

who had been convicted of murder and nearly executed because

prosecutors hid evidence that could have proved his innocence.



BREITBART: I don=E2=80=99t know the answers to these things. If you had giv=

en

me this detailed information, I could have come back with my detailed

response. This is like the Sarah Palin =E2=80=9Cgotcha=E2=80=9D question on=

Paul

Revere. I=E2=80=99m not able to answer this because you are coming to me ar=

med

with data, and I don=E2=80=99t have the ability to see whether there is a

rational argument to defend it or not.



KRASSNER: Well, it=E2=80=99s all a matter of record. Recently a

campaign-finance watchdog, Protect Our Elections, asked the FBI to

investigate Clarence Thomas and his wife, Virginia, seeking his

disbarment. It alleges that he falsified his financial disclosure

forms, that he engaged in judicial corruption by receiving $100,000

from Citizens United during his nomination and then in 2010 ruled in

favor of Citizens United without disclosing that fact or disqualifying

himself, and that he engaged in judicial insider trading to enrich his

wife by providing her with information about that decision prior to

its issuance, which she then used to launch a new company to take

advantage of that decision.



BREITBART: Do you believe in innocent until proven guilty?



KRASSNER: Do I believe in that? Yes. =C2=AD[chuckles] Okay, you know that

Eliot Spitzer was nailed for spritzing around with a call girl in the

same Washington, D.C. hotel room where he had just written an opinion

piece for The Washington Post about the subprime loan disaster. He

wrote, =E2=80=9CNot only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect

consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to

prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems

to which the federal government was turning a blind eye=E2=80=A6. When hist=

ory

tells the story of the subprime lending crisis and recounts its

devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners, the

Bush administration will not be judged favorably.=E2=80=9D In fact, the rea=

son

Spitzer had flown to Washington was to launch a campaign to attack the

Bush cabal and the arrogant corporations that empower them. There was

speculation that this was the real motivation for Spitzer=E2=80=99s arrest.

And then blogger Joy Reid wrote a few months ago that Clarence Thomas

=E2=80=9Chas never been held to account by the Justice Department, Congress=

or

the media for 20 years of false financial-=C2=ADdisclosure forms related to

his wife=E2=80=99s six-figure salary from a Tea Party organization dedicated

to undoing health care reform, an issue Thomas will almost certainly

be called upon to rule on=E2=80=A6. But what=E2=80=99s interesting about th=

e media=E2=80=99s

latest obsession [Anthony Weiner] is =C2=ADBreitbart=E2=80=99s timing. This=

is a

guy who understands news cycles and how to manipulate them, hence his

veritable role as CNN=E2=80=99s assignment editor, replacing Matt Drudge. D=

id

the timing of the [Anthony Weiner] =E2=80=98scandal pic=E2=80=99 release ha=

ve

something to do with Breitbart=E2=80=99s obsession with protecting Clarence

Thomas?=E2=80=9D



BREITBART: Who is alleging that I timed Congressman Weiner=E2=80=99s public=

ly

tweeting his junk? He is the one who instigated it by his behavior on

Friday night, May 27. It=E2=80=99s such an illogical question that it speaks

to a fevered conspiratorial mind-set that I think dominates the left.

Nobody, including Weiner, contests that he tweeted that thing on

Friday night. How could I have preordained or have had preknowledge

that that would occur? It goes beyond being illogical; it=E2=80=99s wishful

thinking.



KRASSNER: But you have to admit it was great timing.



BREITBART: Did it time with Congressman Weiner attacking Clarence

Thomas? Yes, it did. That would be called a coincidence, and there=E2=80=99s

no logical or metaphysical way to make the argument that I was able to

convince him to mis-tweet a picture of his erect penis to a woman in

Seattle with whom he=E2=80=99d had online communications.



KRASSNER: Since you pressured Anthony Weiner into publicly apologizing

to you for pretending you=E2=80=99d hacked his Twitter site, I would think

that, conversely, you owe an apology to Shirley Sherrod. You

publicized, out of context, a two-and-a-half-minute clip of her talk

before the NAACP in which she told about the time 24 years ago when

she didn=E2=80=99t help a farmer as much as she could have because he was

white, which resulted in a scared administration hurriedly forcing her

to resign as the Georgia director of rural development. But you insist

that she wasn=E2=80=99t your target, that the NAACP was, for applauding what

she=E2=80=99d said. Well, I=E2=80=99ve watched the entire 43-minute speech,=

and they

did not applaud.



BREITBART: They nodded and they murmured.



KRASSNER: They nodded and they murmured?



BREITBART: Yes. Look, if you heard somebody give that speech to a

white audience, talking about how they=E2=80=99d stuck it to a black farmer,

and the audience was going along with it and audibly applauding=E2=80=94and=

by

applauding I mean affirming the narrative. When she was talking about

how =E2=80=9CI took him to one of his own=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CI didn=E2=

=80=99t give him the full

force of what I could do,=E2=80=9D they were like, =E2=80=9CUh-huh,=E2=80=

=9D just like it was

church. They were nodding in agreement. The whole point of this was,

the week before, Ben Jealous of the NAACP was going on ABC, CBS and

NBC to defame and defile the Tea Party, claiming it was racist based

on the false narrative that the N-word had been hurled at congressmen

Andr=C3=A9 Carson and John Lewis. And I had proof, not just through the

$100,000 reward that went unmet. Nobody came to me with any evidence

that it had been said once, in a group of 400 people. There was no

audio or video that showed it had happened even once, let alone 15

times. I was also able to produce four videos from the exact moment

the incident allegedly occurred, and they prove beyond a reasonable

doubt that the incident didn=E2=80=99t happen, that it was made up. Yet Ben

Jealous of the NAACP resurrected that falsehood as a means to

propagandize against the Tea Party, to politically destroy it, to try

to make it appear to be racist when it is not racist. So the Thursday

before the Monday when the two videos and the 1,400-word article came

out, I said, =E2=80=9CBen Jealous, you can go to hell. You=E2=80=99re tryin=

g to split

this country on the schism of race. How dare you?=E2=80=9D I said, =E2=80=

=9CI have

evidence that shows your group acting in a racist manner.=E2=80=9D And I st=

and

by that. If the NAACP gets to go on ABC, CBS and NBC and falsely claim

that the Tea Party is racist but doesn=E2=80=99t have any audio or video

evidence and is able to propagate a provable falsehood, I said, =E2=80=9CTh=

ose

who live in glass houses should not throw stones.=E2=80=9D So when you have=

a

video of an NAACP-sanctioned event at which Shirley Sherrod is getting

nods and then murmurs of approval, it is far greater evidence of the

NAACP acting racist than anything the left and the NAACP have been

able to collect of the Tea Party behaving racist. And my point

stands=E2=80=94those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.



KRASSNER: But getting back to Sherrod=E2=80=99s speech, after making her po=

int

that it wasn=E2=80=99t about black and white, it was about haves and

have-nots, that she had overcome her own racial prejudice stemming

from the fact that when she was 17 her father had been killed by a

white man, later in the video she says, =E2=80=9CWhat we have to do is get

that out of our heads. There is no difference between us. The only

difference is that the folks with money want to stay in power,

and=E2=80=A6whatever it is, they=E2=80=99ll do what they need to do to keep=

that

power.=E2=80=9D And that=E2=80=99s when they did applaud.



BREITBART: But they had reacted in a positive fashion that caused the

NAACP to acknowledge it and say it was going to investigate the

audience=E2=80=99s behavior at the point in the actual speech that I had

pointed out. On day one, Sherrod blamed the NAACP. She said it had

gotten into a battle with the Tea Party, and the NAACP said it was

going to investigate the audience for its behavior. I had hit the

target perfectly and shut up the NAACP. It could no longer go on ABC,

CBS or NBC, because it had been exposed. But when Sherrod said to the

administration, =E2=80=9CBut I helped the white farmer,=E2=80=9D they still=

stood by

the firing. If that is such an important crux, that she was allegedly

fired because she discriminated against a white farmer, why is it that

they stood by the firing even after she said she=E2=80=99d helped the white

farmer? The two-and-a-half-=C2=ADminute video includes the redemptive part

of the narrative. Who is my number one defender on that, not once but

twice? Chris =C2=ADMatthews on MSNBC, a guy who does not agree with me on

anything, said to Joan Walsh and Howard Dean, =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99ve looked =

at the

video. Breitbart included the part where she talks about =E2=80=98It=E2=80=

=99s not

about black versus white, it=E2=80=99s about rich versus poor.=E2=80=99=E2=

=80=89=E2=80=9D In addition,

my 1,400-word piece, which everybody ignored, mentions the NAACP 17

times and Sherrod four times. It says, =E2=80=9CEventually her basic humani=

ty

informs her to help the white farmer.=E2=80=9D The redemptive part that you

just talked about is included in the video. Chris Matthews defends me

on that critical point.



KRASSNER: Just to balance Chris Matthews, ironically Glenn Beck

discredited you on Fox News and said you needed to apologize. You

responded, and this is the quote: =E2=80=9CNext thing I know, I=E2=80=99m u=

nder

complete attack without the support of Glenn Beck, who I thought was

somebody I could count on. He threw me under the bus.=E2=80=9D And it wasn=

=E2=80=99t

the Merry Pranksters=E2=80=99 bus. Maybe Beck should apologize to you.



BREITBART: I agree with that. I was able to find out why Beck threw me

under the bus. He had used so much of my content to build up his name,

and why was he throwing me under the bus? Well, it=E2=80=99s pretty

interesting, because the president=E2=80=99s team fired Sherrod too quickly,

without due process, because they were fearful it was going to be on

the Glenn Beck show. So when Beck went on TV to talk about it for the

first time, he took the stance =E2=80=9CI didn=E2=80=99t touch this because=

I knew

there was something wrong with the video. I saw the video in my

office, and I knew something critical was missing, so I didn=E2=80=99t go w=

ith

it.=E2=80=9D Well, wondering why he would state that given what Chris Matth=

ews

had to say on the issue, we found out later that he didn=E2=80=99t do it on

the TV show, but he did do it earlier in the morning on his radio

show, before more information started to come out that granted greater

context. He was the one who cut the two-and-a-half-minute video into

15-second clips that isolated and eviscerated Sherrod and removed the

NAACP angle entirely. So he screwed the pooch on his radio show, then

found out that she had been fired based on the administration=E2=80=99s fear

that it would be on the Glenn Beck show, so he went on his TV show and

pretended he had not touched it on his radio show. He was doing damage

control for Glenn Beck=E2=80=99s brand, period.



KRASSNER: I=E2=80=99ve said that =E2=80=9Ctruth is perceived through the fi=

lter of an

agenda,=E2=80=9D and you=E2=80=99ve said that =E2=80=9Ctruth has no agenda.=

=E2=80=9D I=E2=80=99d like to apply

our slogans to the ACORN scandal that you produced, which, because it

was believed, resulted in Congress defunding the agency. But a

Congressional Research Service report commissioned by the House

Judiciary Committee says that ACORN didn=E2=80=99t violate any federal

regulations in the past five years, that there were no instances of

individuals who had been improperly registered to vote by ACORN

employees, that the undercover video makers who allegedly caught ACORN

employees breaking the law may themselves have violated state law in

their filming operation. The Brooklyn district attorney, Charles

Hynes, announced that his office had found no criminal =C2=ADwrongdoing by

ACORN. Another law enforcement source said that James O=E2=80=99Keefe and

Hannah Giles had edited the tape to meet their agenda. Former

Massachusetts attorney general Scott Harshbarger=E2=80=99s report states, =

=E2=80=9CThe

videos that have been released appear to have been edited, in some

cases substantially, including the insertion of a substitute

voice-over for significant portions of Mr. O=E2=80=99Keefe=E2=80=99s and Ms=

. Giles=E2=80=99s

comments, which makes it difficult to determine the questions to which

ACORN employees are responding. A comparison of publicly available

transcripts to the released videos confirms that large portions of the

original video have been omitted from the released versions.=E2=80=9D And

California=E2=80=99s then attorney general, Jerry Brown, said, =E2=80=9CThe=

evidence

illustrates that things are not always as partisan zealots portray

them through highly selective editing of reality. Sometimes a fuller

truth is found on the cutting-room floor.=E2=80=9D O=E2=80=99Keefe admitted=

he was out

to make a point and to damage ACORN. In the sensational San Diego

video that featured Giles discussing prostitution by underage girls 13

to 15, human trafficking from Mexico and cheating on taxes in the

U.S., the ACORN worker acted as if he would help them. But when they

left, he immediately called the police with the misinformation he had

solicited from this couple of propagandists. And so the question is,

did you ever share the fact that he called the police with your

readers?



BREITBART: There=E2=80=99s so much propaganda in that collection of data th=

at

I don=E2=80=99t even know where to begin, but I=E2=80=99ll start at the beg=

inning.

When Hannah and James came to me with their edited video=E2=80=94which is w=

hat

all news services do; they take raw footage and create a narrative

that allows the story to be told so one doesn=E2=80=99t have to watch hours

and hours of footage=E2=80=94I said, =E2=80=9CEven though ABC, CBS and NBC =

truncate

time and selectively edit video and we just trust implicitly that

they=E2=80=99re telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth and not

manipulating the narrative, you=E2=80=99re going to be held to a higher

standard, not just by the public but by the mainstream media, which is

going to challenge you by virtue of your avowed conservative

politics.=E2=80=9D So when they came to me with those videos, I said, =E2=

=80=9CIf I=E2=80=99m

going to help you get this story out, I=E2=80=99m going to ask that we

simultaneously release the full transcripts and the full audio so

nobody will be able to claim that words were put into these people=E2=80=99s

mouths and that the context of your edited videos makes it perfectly

clear that you did not manipulate the situation.=E2=80=9D For you to cite

Scott Harshbarger as a resource when John Podesta and Andy Stern of

SEIU were the ones who hired Harshbarger to allegedly investigate

ACORN=E2=80=99s behavior on the case.=E2=80=A6 I said immediately, =E2=80=

=9CYou=E2=80=99re going to

tell me that John Podesta=E2=80=99s going to investigate ACORN? They=E2=80=

=99re going

to investigate James, Hannah and me and come up with an =E2=80=98independent

investigation=E2=80=99 to place us on the defensive.=E2=80=9D And that=E2=

=80=99s precisely

what they did by looking at the selectively edited videos. And to come

up with sound bites such as =E2=80=9Cselectively edited=E2=80=9D doesn=E2=

=80=99t mean

anything, because we provided the full content for everyone to see

from day one. Congress voted to defund ACORN because those who looked

at the full tapes and the full transcripts saw there was no

explanation other than absolute insanity that so many people in so

many offices would offer service with a smile when a pimp and a

prostitute walked through the door stating that they wanted to create

an underage-sex-slave operation. Political hacks like Scott

Harshbarger and Jerry Brown are apparatchiks whose careers are

dependent on organizations like ACORN. I would think that your

skepticism of government and government officials would cause you to

go, =E2=80=9CWait a second. Let=E2=80=99s look at the full tapes.=E2=80=9D =

I have said to

Harshbarger, Brown, Podesta, Stern and Media Matters, =E2=80=9CLet=E2=80=99=

s sit down

once and for all and watch, in front of an auditorium of people, for

all the world to see=E2=80=94we=E2=80=99ll film it=E2=80=94the full, unedit=

ed videos. And at

the very end, you=E2=80=99re going to tell me that the selective editing

changed anything?=E2=80=9D It=E2=80=99s laughable garbage, and I am willing=

to put my

name and my reputation on all of those ACORN videos.



KRASSNER: Okay, Andrew, thanks very much for this.



BREITBART: I thought it would be funnierx

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