For 11 seasons, Supernatural fans thought Sam and Dean Winchester had one of the world’s most complicated familial relationships. After all, how many siblings can say they’ve both been to Hell … or maybe didn’t look for their brother when he was sent to Purgatory? And yet, when season 11 revealed that God had a sister, Sam and Dean’s relationship started to look like a walk in the park.

Turns out, Sam and Dean don’t have anything on the family drama between the light and that darkness — the sibling who created, well, everything, and the sibling who was locked away for billions of years.

But somehow, God and Amara ended season 11 by reconciling (and leaving Dean the gift of his mother). So what does that mean for season 12? Will we get to see the two of them in heaven? Are they in heaven?

The bad news? We won’t find out anytime soon. The good news? The world is in capable (pie-loving) hands.

“We’re not going to play it heavily in season 12,” showrunner Andrew Dabb says of God and Amara’s story. “I wouldn’t say conclusively that their story is over, but I would say that their story is happening off-screen. God, in a lot of ways, trusts Sam and Dean more than he trusts himself. God has made mistakes. God has caused more destruction with the Amara thing, with the apocalypse and leaving the angels in charge, than Sam and Dean have. They have saved more people than he has, basically. He puts all his trust in them, or a lot of his trust in them, so I think he feels very comfortable stepping away.”

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Speaking to the resolution of the God-Amara conflict, Dabb says, “God’s really only been a part of our story a little bit behind-the-scenes starting in season 4 and 5 and then kind of disappeared and really only came back for a few episodes last season, and while things worked out, they didn’t work out necessarily because of anything he had done. They worked out because of the evolution Amara went through and the things Dean did.”

So while God is leaving the world in the hands of the trustworthy Winchester brothers, Dabb does remind fans that God and Amara “are not out of our universe.” All the more reason for a season 13!