J. Cole has shared a new 94-minute video interview with Angie Martinez (Power 105.1 radio personality and host of TIDAL’s “One of One”). It was recorded recently at producer Salaam Remi’s Miami home prior to Cole’s set at Rolling Loud Festival 2018. During the candid conversation, they discussed Kendrick Lamar, Kanye West, and SoundCloud rappers. Elsewhere in the interview, Cole discusses meditation, cutting back on drinking and social media, and the way his fifth album KOD has affected people, as well as how his alter ego “kiLL edward” was inspired by his complicated relationship with his ex-stepfather (whose name is Edward). In addition, he says his new album, The Fall Off, is coming in 2019 and that he’s working on a “kiLL edward” record that “sounds like the future.” Watch below.

Around 40:36, J. Cole says, “I don’t make a song and be like, ‘Damn! I wanna get such-and-such on that,’” which prompts Martinez to ask, “So does this mean there’ll never be a Kendrick and Cole album that everybody seems to think is happening?” Cole replies, “Not for that reason.” He later explains that years ago, “We just did a few songs. Like, we did a bunch of ideas. Put it like that. It was nothing like, you wouldn’t call it an album.” Cole adds, “It’s not like it’s something that’s actively happening.” He also suggests people don’t get their hopes up, “Not because it’s never gonna happen. Just because, like... it’s not right now, and I don’t like teasing or playing the game ’cause this has been going on for a minute.”

After the Kendrick discussion, they talked about Kanye West and his much-hyped phone call with Cole. “I would’ve never posted that or tell him to post that,” he says. “That made me feel a certain type of way. I told him that. He apologized, for the record. I told him that it felt like you just used my name in that very quick conversation for social media and to keep your thing going, whatever you were doing. It just felt like it wasn’t sincere because of that.”

Cole continues, “When he called me he said—right off the rip—‘Man, I need you to hold me accountable. Keep me in check. Say whatever you gotta say. I need that. I feed off that.’” He goes on to discuss his 2016 song “False Prophets,” which he says is not about West, but “has one verse that applies to him, for sure.”

Rumors of a Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole album stretch back to 2010 when Kendrick told Vibe that they were working together: “It’s a lot of music. I’ma put it to you that way. It might not be just one song.” In 2011, 2012, and 2013, Cole continued to hype the project, saying things like, “Me and Kendrick doing a whole ridiculous thing together that’s gonna tear up the world,” and, “We got it in, finally, again. [It’s gonna be an] album.” Ab-Soul, in December 2016, told “The Breakfast Club”: “There is a Kendrick/Cole album. They got it. They got something in the works. They been working on that motherfucker for awhile.”