Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he's "to the right" of Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.) when it comes to the National Security Agency's surveillance program.

When Fusion host Jorge Ramos asked the senator about Paul's NSA lawsuit on Thursday, Schumer said he's more conservative than his Republican colleague.

"Since our Constitution was founded, the founding fathers have had a great debate between liberty and security, and you have to have both," Schumer said.

Schumer said he does "think we have to move a little bit on the liberty side" and said he would make the proceedings of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court public.

"But the wholesale elimination of the program, I think, leaves us too naked in terms of security, and you've got to have security as well as liberty," Schumer said.

Paul and the conservative activist group FreedomWorks filed a lawsuit against the Obama administration on Feb. 12 over the NSA's mass collection of millions of Americans' phone records. Paul and the group said they filed the suit for themselves and on behalf of "everyone in America that has a phone."