You’re asking people to get out of their cars, then the mass transit needs to work better. The railroads had its worst on-time record in nearly two decades. It’s a mess.

Is congestion pricing a tax on low-income and working-class people?

Long Island people driving into the city, who are already paying a good amount to live on Long Island and commute, would certainly not see it favorably. I don’t know if they use the “tax” word. I don’t think anyone’s asking for this on Long Island. The question is, can there be a commensurate benefit to balance it?

Someone suggested an exemption for New York City residents.

[Laughs] I think different people have different regional needs.

Is there a way to make congestion pricing just for the rich? Can only luxury vehicles be charged?

The only specific on vehicles that has been brought up is an exemption for motorcycles.

I’m sure the motorcycle lobby is happy about that.

I was trying to think of a joke about popping a wheelie.

When people reflect in five years, what will this look like?

I think this is going to be commonplace in a lot of cities.

Ms. Gunther:

I wanted to talk to a critic of congestion pricing.

I’m not going to be very long-winded, because I represent Orange and Sullivan Counties. In Sullivan County, we have no mass transit at all. And we have a Short Line bus system that, if you worked in New York City, you have to leave at 4 o’clock in the morning or you’d be late for work.