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Hero MemberActivity: 730Merit: 502 ★ Digitalcoin(DGC) Discussion & Info thread - Organic Growth since May 2013! ★ September 28, 2014, 12:16:49 AM

Last edit: October 15, 2014, 04:03:51 PM by cosmoo #1



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This thread is for general discussion of Digitalcoin. Please help us gain rapport for DGC while we organize goals the community should work towards. Post your thoughts, opinions, ideas, whatever it is you think will help DGC become more prominent within the crypto scene!



What makes DGC so special?

(Note, this is the opinion of cosmoo only, please criticize me if you disagree)

To put it bluntly, DGC has only ever experienced honest, organic growth in network, userbase, and market. There has never been any behind-the-scenes manipulation by the creators or even (apparently, to me) 3rd party whales; at this point coins are distributed enough that anyone looking to control DGC (as most instamined Proof-of-Stake coins are) would have to invest significant time and money, with a poor chance at succeeding. This is sloppy analyzing but take a look at the data provided by the CryptoID block parser (the ! breaks the link, copy+paste it into your browser):



!rich

Look at the green portion of the pie chart, that represents the amount of DGC in circulation that belong to all addresses under the top 1,000. This is effectively how 'healthy' the distribution of the coin is; more coins in more hands = fairer distribution = more accurate market price. Also note that there are 50k addresses with DGC in them , which shows how far DGC has spread among people. Now, lets take a look at an ongoing pump-n-dump coin, VeriCoin:



!rich

You'll see that the green portion of their chart accounts for only 0.6% of the coins in circulation, with only around 6k addresses created. With so many coins in so few hands it's easy for whales to dominate the market. As long as they can hold a solid majority of the coins they can buy the price up along with hype (ie the coin gets a new 'feature' or whatever) and sell into it, then pick off large buy orders as they appear at the inflated price. This isn't investing, it's gambling, there are no solid fundamentals here and unless you're the whale behind the coin you will be left in the dark as to what's really happening with the market.



Next, lets take a look at what I think to be a dying pump-n-dump, DarkCoin.



!rich

The green portion of their pie chart is much bigger, why? Because it's already 'spent' as far as the pump-n-dump process goes. DRK has been at an inflated price for so long the original, consolidated coin supply has leaked beyond whale's abilities to reclaim it. 21.5% of the current supply, in 30,000 different addresses. If a market manipulator is interested in pushing the price up, they'll have to recollect the DRK in all those addresses. Without the rampant manipulation that pumped the price up so high in the first place, DRK is doomed to deflate over the next few years. Perhaps if those 30k people abandon it the chance of getting re-pumped increases, however it seems to me whales have already taken their profit and moved on to another coin.



The final point that reveals this whole scheme is the relation between the number of coins in circulation and the market capitalization. Check it out:



VeriCoin:

Coins Outstanding: 26,865,297

Market Cap: $1,397,839

Total # of addresses: 5618



DarkCoin:

Coins Outstanding: 4,688,976

Market Cap: $13,505,041

compared to other altcoins this is ridiculous, do you seriously believe there's $13m backing DRK?

Total # of addresses: 30819



digitalcoin:

Coins Oustanding: 17,224,561

Market Cap: $208,553

Total # of addresses: 50304



Now which coin do you think will be a better investment in the long run? It's plain ludicrous for a coin that experiences instant volatility to be lauded as a trustworthy alternative to Bitcoin, unless losing money is your thing. DGC recently floored at 1500 satoshis. Nowhere to go but up from here



For anyone interested in learning more about how coins and their markets are manipulated, this article does a great job explaining it:



Now get involved and help us grow!

As it stands DGC can go anywhere, we're just waiting for you. Here's what the community is up to now:



Current Events:

Digitalcoin is being updated to include Multi-Algo hashing using SHA256, Scrypt, and X11. Rewards will also be reduced by 66%. Read the ANN (link above) for more details.

Foundation president kenel will be representing DGC at the Hashers United conference in Las Vegas!

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Topics to debate:

Is merge-mining an acceptable method to retain respectable hashrate?

- Pros: Would bolster the network strength enough to be taken seriously by major payment processors such as PayPal.

- Cons: Would effectively 'lock' us into the opinions of all the ASIC owners in the world, making it harder to push an update to the client.



- Pros: Would bolster the network strength enough to be taken seriously by major payment processors such as PayPal. - Cons: Would effectively 'lock' us into the opinions of all the ASIC owners in the world, making it harder to push an update to the client. What is the ideal mint rate for DGC? How many coins should be released every month?

Thoughts on Proof-of-Stake? Note: PoW rewards WILL be kept for as long as possible, as it's the best way to ensure fairness in coin distribution.

This thread will get updated over time as the community consolidates, so please join in and let us hear your thoughts! Digitalcoin (DGC) is a scrypt based coin launched May 2013 by developer Baritus. It has since been adopted by the community who keep the client updated in accordance with the ever-changing environment afflicting crypto. DGC had an open, stable launch with no premine/instamine, with PoW rewards properly scaled to keep things fair for everyone. Currently, the price behind DGC is an accurate reflection of the amount of interest vested in it.This thread is for general discussion of Digitalcoin. Please help us gain rapport for DGC while we organize goals the community should work towards. Post your thoughts, opinions, ideas, whatever it is you think will help DGC become more prominent within the crypto scene!(Note, this is the opinion of cosmoo only, please criticize me if you disagree)To put it bluntly, DGC has only ever experienced honest, organic growth in network, userbase, and market. There has never been any behind-the-scenes manipulation by the creators or even (apparently, to me) 3rd party whales; at this point coins are distributed enough that anyone looking to control DGC (as most instamined Proof-of-Stake coins are) would have to invest significant time and money, with a poor chance at succeeding. This is sloppy analyzing but take a look at the data provided by the CryptoID block parser (the ! breaks the link, copy+paste it into your browser): https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgc/# !richLook at the green portion of the pie chart, that represents the amount of DGC in circulation that belong to all addresses under the top 1,000. This is effectively how 'healthy' the distribution of the coin is; more coins in more hands = fairer distribution = more accurate market price. Also note that, which shows how far DGC has spread among people. Now, lets take a look at an ongoing pump-n-dump coin, VeriCoin: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/# !richYou'll see that the green portion of their chart accounts for only 0.6% of the coins in circulation, with only around 6k addresses created. With so many coins in so few hands it's easy for whales to dominate the market. As long as they can hold a solid majority of the coins they can buy the price up along with hype (ie the coin gets a new 'feature' or whatever) and sell into it, then pick off large buy orders as they appear at the inflated price. This isn't investing, it's gambling, there are no solid fundamentals here and unless you're the whale behind the coin you will be left in the dark as to what'shappening with the market.Next, lets take a look at what I think to be a dying pump-n-dump, DarkCoin. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/# !richThe green portion of their pie chart is much bigger, why? Because it's already 'spent' as far as the pump-n-dump process goes. DRK has been at an inflated price for so long the original, consolidated coin supply has leaked beyond whale's abilities to reclaim it. 21.5% of the current supply, in 30,000 different addresses. If a market manipulator is interested in pushing the price up, they'll have to recollect the DRK in all those addresses. Without the rampant manipulation that pumped the price up so high in the first place, DRK is doomed to deflate over the next few years. Perhaps if those 30k people abandon it the chance of getting re-pumped increases, however it seems to me whales have already taken their profit and moved on to another coin.VeriCoin:Coins Outstanding: 26,865,297Market Cap: $1,397,839Total # of addresses: 5618DarkCoin:Coins Outstanding: 4,688,976Market Cap:Total # of addresses: 30819digitalcoin:Coins Oustanding: 17,224,561Market Cap:Total # of addresses:Now which coin do you think will be a better investment in the long run? It's plain ludicrous for a coin that experiences instant volatility to be lauded as a trustworthy alternative to Bitcoin, unless losing money is your thing. DGC recently floored at 1500 satoshis. Nowhere to go but up from hereFor anyone interested in learning more about how coins and their markets are manipulated, this article does a great job explaining it: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#the_difference_between_the_early_adopters_of_bitcoin_and_the_new_alts As it stands DGC can go anywhere, we're just waiting for you. Here's what the community is up to now:This thread will get updated over time as the community consolidates, so please join in and let us hear your thoughts!