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LegendaryActivity: 2800Merit: 1252 Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" October 05, 2015, 08:27:47 PM #4284 Quote from: presstab on October 05, 2015, 08:16:16 PM Yeah definitely a cool idea. I have successfully done this for HYP now, and am trying to add multiple outputs to different addresses to my next stake that came in. I think I remember you having quite a few outputs sent in one of your transactions?



For CLAM, the consensus only insists that the 1st input and 2nd output have the same pubkey when staking. Later inputs and outputs can have any pubkey you like.



I use this as a free way of tidying up the 'dust' outputs that collect in my wallets from faucets.



There's also -rewardto, which sends just the staking reward to the specified address. This would be useful if you wanted to keep your principal but send the staking income to an exchange for selling, for example. For CLAM, the consensus only insists that the 1st input and 2nd output have the same pubkey when staking. Later inputs and outputs can have any pubkey you like.I use this as a free way of tidying up the 'dust' outputs that collect in my wallets from faucets.There's also -rewardto, which sends just the staking reward to the specified address. This would be useful if you wanted to keep your principal but send the staking income to an exchange for selling, for example. Just-Dice ██

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Hero MemberActivity: 784Merit: 1002CLAM Developer Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" October 05, 2015, 08:56:06 PM #4285 Quote from: hermesesus on October 05, 2015, 03:34:30 PM

I downloaded the clam client, waited (a long time, that's true) for sync, imported my old empty BTC wallet and got CLAMS that I sold for BTC on poloniex. But it's worth the effort

Don't use these profiteers' sites that give you dust for your BTC/LTC/DOGE addresses!

I advice people who want to claim their free CLAMS to do it themselves.I downloaded the clam client, waited (a long time, that's true) for sync, imported my oldBTC wallet and got CLAMS that I sold for BTC on poloniex. But it's worth the effortDon't use these profiteers' sites that give youfor your BTC/LTC/DOGE addresses!

Awesome



Wish we could have convinced you to join the CLAM family; but, we are happy to hear things went well, regardless.



Hope you'll reconsider in the future AwesomeWish we could have convinced you to join the CLAM family; but, we are happy to hear things went well, regardless.Hope you'll reconsider in the future https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147

Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.

Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS. Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.

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Hero MemberActivity: 784Merit: 1002CLAM Developer Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" October 05, 2015, 09:42:44 PM #4287 Quote from: hermesesus on October 05, 2015, 09:30:53 PM Quote from: SuperClam on October 05, 2015, 08:56:06 PM

Hope you'll reconsider in the future

Wish we could have convinced you to join the CLAM family; but, we are happy to hear things went well, regardless.Hope you'll reconsider in the future

I like the "spirit" of the project: equal initial distribution and the POWS system ("staking CLAMs"). But you have to own many CLAMs in your wallet to hope for a reward.

Anyway, good luck

Oh, I can still purchase CLAMs. Who knows?I like the "spirit" of the project: equal initial distribution and the POWS system ("staking CLAMs"). But you have to own many CLAMs in your wallet to hope for a reward.Anyway, good luck

True.



Clam IS very competitive.



But, let us ponder why.



In conventional proof-of-stake, you can save up your "age" and "claim" by staking for an interest gain at any time.

This provides a situation where inflation is distributed regardless of the contribution to the network.

Leaving the incentive structure aside (less reason to secure the network consistently), this creates a very different economic situation.



The CLAM block reward is a static amount and it is apportioned based on the individual stakers' contribution to securing the network.

What does this mean?



It can be assumed that not every CLAM will be staked (though our percentage actively staked is likely the highest in crypto).

In short, it allows a staker to "beat" inflation.



In my honest opinion, this makes the economics of Proof-of-Working-Stake in CLAM much more similar to Proof-Of-Work mining than the interest based Proof-Of-Stake employed by other networks. True.Clamvery competitive.But, let us ponderIn conventional proof-of-stake, you can save up your "age" and "claim" by staking for an interest gain at any time.This provides a situation where inflation is distributed regardless of the contribution to the network.Leaving the incentive structure aside (less reason to secure the network consistently), this creates a very different economic situation.The CLAM block reward is a static amount and it is apportioned based on the individual stakers' contribution to securing the network.What does this mean?It can be assumed that not every CLAM will be staked (though our percentage actively staked is likely the highest in crypto).In short, it allows a staker to "beat" inflation.In my honest opinion, this makes the economics of Proof-of-Working-Stake in CLAM much more similar to Proof-Of-Work mining than the interest based Proof-Of-Stake employed by other networks. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147

Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.

Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS. Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.

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LegendaryActivity: 1666Merit: 1036Learning the troll avoidance button :) Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" October 08, 2015, 12:00:03 AM #4299 Quote from: dooglus on October 07, 2015, 11:12:58 PM











That looks a lot like someone buying 133 CLAMs for 66 BTC, with the last 6 CLAMs selling for 6 BTC. CLAM finally reached BTC-parity?



I expect it was just a costly typo - but who knows.

There was some 'interesting' price action on bittrex recently:That looks a lot like someone buying 133 CLAMs for 66 BTC, with the last 6 CLAMs selling for 6 BTC. CLAM finally reached BTC-parity?I expect it was just a costly typo - but who knows.

Now that was a costly typo

But now we can say that it has traded at parity with Bitcoin for a brief time somewhere Now that was a costly typoBut now we can say that it has traded at parity with Bitcoin for a brief time somewhere