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- When bulls are flying, they shoot 'm down

- When bears are digging, they pull 'm up



As a real crypto fan, a steady price makes me nervous, because I'm not used to it.

But if this really is there strategy, they do have a good point.

We don't want BC to be another pump & dump coin, so why not keep the price stable untill there is an ACTUAL reason for the price to go up (i.e. new development, big investor, groundbreaking news, etc.) and then let it find a new level, settle and keep it stable again.



This is ofcourse not a good strategy for the adrenaline junky traders (i'm detoxing...), but it might just be THE BEST strategy for investors who actually want BC to succeed.



Ah well, we'll see huh ??! Aha, looks like BC leaders are keeping price flat on purpose:- When bulls are flying, they shoot 'm down- When bears are digging, they pull 'm upAs a real crypto fan, a steady price makes me nervous, because I'm not used to it.But if this really is there strategy, they do have a good point.We don't want BC to be another pump & dump coin, so why not keep the price stable untill there is an ACTUAL reason for the price to go up (i.e. new development, big investor, groundbreaking news, etc.) and then let it find a new level, settle and keep it stable again.This is ofcourse not a good strategy for the adrenaline junky traders (i'm detoxing...), but it might just be THE BEST strategy for investors who actually want BC to succeed.Ah well, we'll see huh ??! "The Blade that was Broken shines again!"

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1.Cryptsy technical support(Horus) told that "rat4 is pretty amazing coding unit"

When someone from outside tell you that and he is tech. guy that mean he is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dVeLJFOdfyY#t=1121

2.The Doge and Maarx they know what they are doing they are good software developers.

(bounties for dev are great things - brings talented people to Blackcoin)

3.NO SMOKING ++++ I appreciate that.

4.If you work hard for Blackcoin you can have work/holiday trip to Miami in US like Soepkip. - Signal for people work hard and you will get your reward.

5.Rent real Lamborghini for BC - this is real.

6.Like Soepkip said we are building infrastructure and that hard work will brings BC profits not market P&D

7.V2 will be new mooltipool not based on Mpos

8.Wizz like he said he is focusing on entertainment so i don't get his actions so serious.

(but be honest he brings more entertainment to Blackcast - without him it could be to boring sometime - he can be unpredictable )

9.Android wallet soon.

I watched blackcast and i am happy.When someone from outside tell you that and he is tech. guy that mean he is good.2.The Doge and Maarx they know what they are doing they are good software developers.(bounties for dev are great things - brings talented people to Blackcoin)3.NO SMOKING ++++ I appreciate that.5.Rent real Lamborghini for BC - this is real.6.Like Soepkip said we are building infrastructure and that hard work will brings BC profits not market P&D7.V2 will be new mooltipool not based on Mpos8.Wizz like he said he is focusing on entertainment so i don't get his actions so serious.(but be honest he brings more entertainment to Blackcast - without him it could be to boring sometime - he can be unpredictable )9.Android wallet soon.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 336Merit: 250Twitter: @Steven_McKie Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD May 13, 2014, 03:04:49 PM #1424 Quote from: XbladeX on May 13, 2014, 02:51:17 PM



1.Cryptsy technical support(Horus) told that "rat4 is pretty amazing coding unit"

When someone from outside tell you that and he is tech. guy that mean he is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dVeLJFOdfyY#t=1121

2.The Doge and Maarx they know what they are doing they are good software developers.

(bounties for dev are great things - brings talented people to Blackcoin)

3.NO SMOKING ++++ I appreciate that.

4.If you work hard for Blackcoin you can have work/holiday trip to Miami in US like Soepkip. - Signal for people work hard and you will get your reward.

5.Rent real Lamborghini for BC - this is real.

6.Like Soepkip said we are building infrastructure and that hard work will brings BC profits not market P&D

7.V2 will be new mooltipool not based on Mpos

8.Wizz like he said he is focusing on entertainment so i don't get his actions so serious.

(but be honest he brings more entertainment to Blackcast - without him it could be to boring sometime - he can be unpredictable )

9.Android wallet soon.



I watched blackcast and i am happy.When someone from outside tell you that and he is tech. guy that mean he is good.2.The Doge and Maarx they know what they are doing they are good software developers.(bounties for dev are great things - brings talented people to Blackcoin)3.NO SMOKING ++++ I appreciate that.5.Rent real Lamborghini for BC - this is real.6.Like Soepkip said we are building infrastructure and that hard work will brings BC profits not market P&D7.V2 will be new mooltipool not based on Mpos8.Wizz like he said he is focusing on entertainment so i don't get his actions so serious.(but be honest he brings more entertainment to Blackcast - without him it could be to boring sometime - he can be unpredictable )9.Android wallet soon.

Wiz and people like him are what Crypto needs. People vested with connections who are cool and hip enough to wrap their heads around such a large development like BlackCoin. This is great. If Wiz can convince a single wealthy celebrity, or affluent -- they could be our ticket to the big leagues. Wiz knows that too. Maarx, Doge, Soep, and everyone else are very competent. Should be no surprise how far we've gotten. And as we recruit more to our cause people are going to bring their own comparative advantage that make use unique in your ventures. Our trade secret, our soul, is our people. Wiz and people like him are what Crypto needs. People vested with connections who are cool and hip enough to wrap their heads around such a large development like BlackCoin. This is great. If Wiz can convince a single wealthy celebrity, or affluent -- they could be our ticket to the big leagues. Wiz knows that too. Maarx, Doge, Soep, and everyone else are very competent. Should be no surprise how far we've gotten. And as we recruit more to our cause people are going to bring their own comparative advantage that make use unique in your ventures. Our trade secret, our soul, is our people. BLK Donate: B7Pegtcz9wa9Uf5NsQLQ26HbQCBc8EmRGz

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Obvious troll is obvious.

The premine is even worse... it was 75 million in 7 days!!!!1!!one!!!!Obvious troll is obvious.

From what I understand about whale games on Mintpal : if you put up large buy and sell wall non-stop, eventually you will be able to buy or sell into your own wall, creating a trading singularity than may allow to you time travel through the black hole, back to the release of BlackCoin so you may obtain an infinite loop of premine. That explains everything on Mintpal right now. Black Illuminati has been exposed!



And good summary on the cast XbladeX.



Quote from: Anduril_FotW on May 13, 2014, 02:40:42 PM As a real crypto fan, a steady price makes me nervous, because I'm not used to it.



Before the big BTC bubble this past December, BTC and LTC spent months being "stable". LTC actually just kept slowly dropping from May to November. You should have seen the doom and gloom that was around in August/September with LTC prior to the bubble when it was trading at $1.80 or less (and I believe bottomed out at $1.10). In the case of LTC, those who stuck with it in those times were by far the most rewarded in the end. From what I understand about whale games on Mintpal : if you put up large buy and sell wall non-stop, eventually you will be able to buy or sell into your own wall, creating a trading singularity than may allow to you time travel through the black hole, back to the release of BlackCoin so you may obtain an infinite loop of premine. That explains everything on Mintpal right now. Black Illuminati has been exposed!And good summary on the cast XbladeX.Before the big BTC bubble this past December, BTC and LTC spent months being "stable". LTC actually just kept slowly dropping from May to November. You should have seen the doom and gloom that was around in August/September with LTC prior to the bubble when it was trading at $1.80 or less (and I believe bottomed out at $1.10). In the case of LTC, those who stuck with it in those times were by far the most rewarded in the end.

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# address balance

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I'm relatively new to crypto coins.. is that sort of distribution normal? Top ten wallets hold roughly 25% of BC? That seems pretty concentrated for a no-premine coin.I'm relatively new to crypto coins.. is that sort of distribution normal? Twitter: Omnipreneur

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Full MemberActivity: 140Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD May 13, 2014, 03:43:50 PM #1429 Quote from: Anduril_FotW on May 13, 2014, 02:40:42 PM

- When bulls are flying, they shoot 'm down

- When bears are digging, they pull 'm up



As a real crypto fan, a steady price makes me nervous, because I'm not used to it.

But if this really is there strategy, they do have a good point.

We don't want BC to be another pump & dump coin, so why not keep the price stable untill there is an ACTUAL reason for the price to go up (i.e. new development, big investor, groundbreaking news, etc.) and then let it find a new level, settle and keep it stable again.



This is ofcourse not a good strategy for the adrenaline junky traders (i'm detoxing...), but it might just be THE BEST strategy for investors who actually want BC to succeed.



Ah well, we'll see huh ??!

Aha, looks like BC leaders are keeping price flat on purpose:- When bulls are flying, they shoot 'm down- When bears are digging, they pull 'm upAs a real crypto fan, a steady price makes me nervous, because I'm not used to it.But if this really is there strategy, they do have a good point.We don't want BC to be another pump & dump coin, so why not keep the price stable untill there is an ACTUAL reason for the price to go up (i.e. new development, big investor, groundbreaking news, etc.) and then let it find a new level, settle and keep it stable again.This is ofcourse not a good strategy for the adrenaline junky traders (i'm detoxing...), but it might just be THE BEST strategy for investors who actually want BC to succeed.Ah well, we'll see huh ??!

I really don't think the price is being held down, at least not by anything other than the normal whale games on altcoins.



You have to consider that once a coin is a top 10-15 cryptocurrency, the market changes a lot. Hype and 'good news' don't make the market jump like crazy like it does in lower value altcoins. And on a more stable, successful currency, day traders aren't looking for huge gains. They are happy to take a 5-10% gain on something like BlackCoin because there is a much lower risk that they'll lose a significant amount than the risk on low-value, speculative coins. This makes it harder for the market to make significant moves without really good reason.



That's not to say BlackCoin won't make signficant gains fast. It just takes more real, concrete value to readjust the market after a coin already has a baseline of success. Simple hype won't do it. There is a great recent example: Darkcoin traded sideways between 125k-150k for well over a month. I was holding some the entire time and I followed it fairly closely. The tech and plan for the coin was well publicized the whole time. It was clear that the developer was skilled enough to implement it. There were great things happening in the community. But the price stayed level. I saw a lot of posts from people frustrated by it - they saw value being added yet the price didn't move. But then the anonymous sending came out of beta. Shortly after, Dark has gained over 400% in one week and is now trading around 550-600k. The market barely reacted to news or hype for over a month. It reacted when enough concrete value was added that it made DRK obviously undervalued, and market adjusted quickly.



I think BlackCoin may be in a similar situation. We have some of the strongest development forces I've seen in altcoins. Real value is being added every day. All the fundamentals are excellent. We have a top developer. This coin has huge potential. I don't know when, but I think there will come a point very soon when the market finds BLK to be very, very undervalued.

I really don't think the price is being held down, at least not by anything other than the normal whale games on altcoins.You have to consider that once a coin is a top 10-15 cryptocurrency, the market changes a lot. Hype and 'good news' don't make the market jump like crazy like it does in lower value altcoins. And on a more stable, successful currency, day traders aren't looking for huge gains. They are happy to take a 5-10% gain on something like BlackCoin because there is a much lower risk that they'll lose a significant amount than the risk on low-value, speculative coins. This makes it harder for the market to make significant moves without really good reason.That's not to say BlackCoin won't make signficant gains fast. It just takes more real, concrete value to readjust the market after a coin already has a baseline of success. Simple hype won't do it. There is a great recent example: Darkcoin traded sideways between 125k-150k for well over a month. I was holding some the entire time and I followed it fairly closely. The tech and plan for the coin was well publicized the whole time. It was clear that the developer was skilled enough to implement it. There were great things happening in the community. But the price stayed level. I saw a lot of posts from people frustrated by it - they saw value being added yet the price didn't move. But then the anonymous sending came out of beta. Shortly after, Dark has gained over 400% in one week and is now trading around 550-600k. The market barely reacted to news or hype for over a month. It reacted when enough concrete value was added that it made DRK obviously undervalued, and market adjusted quickly.I think BlackCoin may be in a similar situation. We have some of the strongest development forces I've seen in altcoins. Real value is being added every day. All the fundamentals are excellent. We have a top developer. This coin has huge potential. I don't know when, but I think there will come a point very soon when the market finds BLK to be very, very undervalued.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 910Merit: 253 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD May 13, 2014, 03:48:42 PM #1431 Quote from: KingSchultz on May 13, 2014, 03:43:50 PM



You have to consider that once a coin is a top 10-15 cryptocurrency, the market changes a lot. Hype and 'good news' don't make the market jump like crazy like it does in lower value altcoins. And on a more stable, successful currency, day traders aren't looking for huge gains. They are happy to take a 5-10% gain on something like BlackCoin because there is a much lower risk that they'll lose a significant amount than the risk on low-value, speculative coins. This makes it harder for the market to make significant moves without really good reason.



That's not to say BlackCoin won't make signficant gains fast. It just takes more real, concrete value to readjust the market after a coin already has a baseline of success. Simple hype won't do it. There is a great recent example: Darkcoin traded sideways between 125k-150k for well over a month. I was holding some the entire time and I followed it fairly closely. The tech and plan for the coin was well publicized the whole time. It was clear that the developer was skilled enough to implement it. There were great things happening in the community. But the price stayed level. I saw a lot of posts from people frustrated by it - they saw value being added yet the price didn't move. But then the anonymous sending came out of beta. Shortly after, Dark has gained over 400% in one week and is now trading around 550-600k. The market barely reacted to news or hype for over a month. It reacted when enough concrete value was added that it made DRK obviously undervalued, and market adjusted quickly.



I think BlackCoin may be in a similar situation. We have some of the strongest development forces I've seen in altcoins. Real value is being added every day. All the fundamentals are excellent. We have a top developer. This coin has huge potential. I don't know when, but I think there will come a point very soon when the market finds BLK to be very, very undervalued.



I really don't think the price is being held down, at least not by anything other than the normal whale games on altcoins.You have to consider that once a coin is a top 10-15 cryptocurrency, the market changes a lot. Hype and 'good news' don't make the market jump like crazy like it does in lower value altcoins. And on a more stable, successful currency, day traders aren't looking for huge gains. They are happy to take a 5-10% gain on something like BlackCoin because there is a much lower risk that they'll lose a significant amount than the risk on low-value, speculative coins. This makes it harder for the market to make significant moves without really good reason.That's not to say BlackCoin won't make signficant gains fast. It just takes more real, concrete value to readjust the market after a coin already has a baseline of success. Simple hype won't do it. There is a great recent example: Darkcoin traded sideways between 125k-150k for well over a month. I was holding some the entire time and I followed it fairly closely. The tech and plan for the coin was well publicized the whole time. It was clear that the developer was skilled enough to implement it. There were great things happening in the community. But the price stayed level. I saw a lot of posts from people frustrated by it - they saw value being added yet the price didn't move. But then the anonymous sending came out of beta. Shortly after, Dark has gained over 400% in one week and is now trading around 550-600k. The market barely reacted to news or hype for over a month. It reacted when enough concrete value was added that it made DRK obviously undervalued, and market adjusted quickly.I think BlackCoin may be in a similar situation. We have some of the strongest development forces I've seen in altcoins. Real value is being added every day. All the fundamentals are excellent. We have a top developer. This coin has huge potential. I don't know when, but I think there will come a point very soon when the market finds BLK to be very, very undervalued.

Basically this. Value is being added but the price stays the same. This is the accumulation phase. Every day there are a few more people finding out about blackcoin. When it breaks up, it will be just as violent if not more so then the run up to 94k. A run to 200k sats is well within the possibility for this coin. Basically this. Value is being added but the price stays the same. This is the accumulation phase. Every day there are a few more people finding out about blackcoin. When it breaks up, it will be just as violent if not more so then the run up to 94k. A run to 200k sats is well within the possibility for this coin.

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Hero MemberActivity: 868Merit: 1000 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD May 13, 2014, 03:55:34 PM #1435 Quote from: sverigetrader on May 13, 2014, 02:25:24 PM Quote from: trdiablo on May 13, 2014, 02:23:19 PM Quote from: sverigetrader on May 13, 2014, 02:14:35 PM Super huge buy wall at @24500 ! Incredible





I am sure I just missed it as I dont see it anymore?







I am sure that at some point the whale of yesterday would come back to pump again the price.

He should have made about 10 BTC yesterday with half an hour of work, good profit.

I am sure I just missed it as I dont see it anymore?I am sure that at some point the whale of yesterday would come back to pump again the price.He should have made about 10 BTC yesterday with half an hour of work, good profit.

Still there but at @24900 now. 160 BTC !

Still there but at @24900 now. 160 BTC !

You act like buy walls like this are good? People often put huge fake buy walls like this up so that people think the price is about to be pumped but in all actuality they just want you to think that so that you put buy orders in front of their buy wall and they can sell at a higher price... Same thing often happens on the way down.. If you see clearly fake and huge sell walls it is usually a sign people want to push the price down to buy cheaper (if they were actually selling they would not be trying to push the price down, they would quietly and slowly sell off without leaving sell walls up on the order book which only keep the price from rising or even push it down thereby diminishing their profits), if you see clearly fake and huge buy walls it is a sign people want to push the price up to sell higher (if they were actually buying they would not be trying to push the price up, its not like anybody is ever going to push the price up to buy higher...). Don't fall for traps. Either way, it is gone now. Which is good imo, walls that big scream manipulation. You act like buy walls like this are good? People often put huge fake buy walls like this up so that people think the price is about to be pumped but in all actuality they just want you to think that so that you put buy orders in front of their buy wall and they can sell at a higher price... Same thing often happens on the way down.. If you see clearly fake and huge sell walls it is usually a sign people want to push the price down to buy cheaper (if they were actually selling they would not be trying to push the price down, they would quietly and slowly sell off without leaving sell walls up on the order book which only keep the price from rising or even push it down thereby diminishing their profits), if you see clearly fake and huge buy walls it is a sign people want to push the price up to sell higher (if they were actually buying they would not be trying to push the price up, its not like anybody is ever going to push the price up to buy higher...). Don't fall for traps. Either way, it is gone now. Which is good imo, walls that big scream manipulation.