Flash works everywhere?...that's news to me. Go to top ] Posted by: Steven Boscarine

Posted on: October 23 2008 12:32 EDT

in response to Jacek Furmankiewicz Flash works everywhere? That's news to me. I assume you're not spending much time in Linux then. I'm running 32-bit Linux because so many sites I enjoy depend on Flash, which is VERY difficult to get working on 64-bit Linux. Also, I actually found myself having to install flashblock on Firefox because the flash plugin is so buggy. To my knowledge, my browser never crashes due to Java applets or JavaFX...certainly not for unwelcome advertising (yet). Browser crashing due to Flash-heavy advertising-laden pages seems to happen weekly before I installed the blocker. Also, Flash applets often seem to kill my CPU and perform very poorly. I have no idea if that's due to the Flash authors or the plugin, but the bottom line is that I resent Flash and wished less sites used it. The more important point, however, is that Flash needs competition. I think JavaFX, in a few iterations, could be a first-class competitor to Flash either killing it or persuading Adobe to take platforms outside of Macintosh or Windows more seriously as well as improve it's core features and performance. I welcome the competition and am actually excited about the potential for Sun to do a better job with desktop Java this time around. I'd like to see Java become a major player in the desktop space in the future and in order to so they'll need to work on performance as they're starting to address with this release. Reply to this Reply to original

Re: Java SE 6 Update 10 is Officially Here Go to top ] Posted by: michele michele

Posted on: October 23 2008 06:33 EDT

in response to Faro G JAVA FX is one of the major future release item.



I am still waiting to see how easy will the web development will become with it.

A good visual editor to make JavaFX applets should be developed. I hope that Sun will improve the current NetBeans visual editor for JavaFX. Instead, the eclipse based visual editor for Adobe Flex is very good. The major advantage to use an Adobe Flex applet instead of a Java Applet (previous 6u10) was the performance and the amount of kb to download. I don't know if JavaFX will fill the performance gap. The promise with Jdk6u10 (and next Jdk7) to minimize the kb download should be accomplished. ...

Creating a complex enterprise application with JavaFX alone and not reusing JSF/Spring Web Flow/SEAM etc, will it make sense? I still need to understand how this all will integrate. I think the new JavaFX will be used instead of the good-old Java Applets, and will not replace the good-old HTML-AJAX-JSF sites (SpringMVC, Jboss Seam,). Thus, in the next future, we'll have the choice to make: - a light-weight web site with JSF (Seam,...); - a RIA web site with JavaFX Applets or with Adobe flex. A good visual editor to make JavaFX applets should be developed. I hope that Sun will improve the current NetBeans visual editor for JavaFX. Instead, the eclipse based visual editor for Adobe Flex is very good. The major advantage to use an Adobe Flex applet instead of a Java Applet (previous 6u10) was the performance and the amount of kb to download. I don't know if JavaFX will fill the performance gap. The promise with Jdk6u10 (and next Jdk7) to minimize the kb download should be accomplished.I think the new JavaFX will be used instead of the good-old Java Applets, and will not replace the good-old HTML-AJAX-JSF sites (SpringMVC, Jboss Seam,). Thus, in the next future, we'll have the choice to make: - a light-weight web site with JSF (Seam,...); - a RIA web site with JavaFX Applets or with Adobe flex. Reply to this Reply to original