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Re: DOMA

From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: richard.socarides@gmail.com CC: john.podesta@gmail.com, rmook@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2015-10-25 20:52 Subject: Re: DOMA

Okay Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Richard Socarides <richard.socarides@gmail.com> wrote: The draft statement I just saw is a disaster and will make matters worse. It ducks the main issue re the constitutional amendment. You would be better off doing nothing for a day or two and see what happens. PLEASE have whoever is writing this call me. Told this to Amanda. On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jennifer Palmieri < jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: > There is a call going on now on how to handle. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:20 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> wrote: > > She's down tomorrow and needs o stay down. Bernie went after this again > today. Jen, thoughts? > > On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Richard Socarides < > richard.socarides@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think it's better to be proactive because this will fester plus she's >> going to get this question again anyway soon enuf. >> >> I've been speaking with Maya. Best if she says something to a reporter >> herself. She could call Chris Geidner at BuzzFeed. I know that's hard. >> >> Second best is put out a statement on paper. Either from her or you or >> Jen. I could help write it. >> >> Third option, possible for somebody to call a reporter on her behalf. >> Call someone with whom we have a relationship and explain, or I could call >> and try to explain it but this is definitely not as good as the first two, >> at least by itself. >> >> Richard >> 917-400-6178 >> >> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:06 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Richard, >> Should we hunker down and not repeat the mistake or do we have to do >> something more proactive. >> John >> >> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Richard Socarides < >> richard.socarides@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Below from LGBT political list-serve: >>> >>> • *Hillary Clinton, you have a problem:* >>> >>> https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/658306796797501440 >>> >>> >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/bill-clinton-and-doma-the_b_2838666.html >>> >>> "That's complete nonsense," Evan Wolfson of Freedom to Marry told Metro >>> Weekly in 2011. "There was no conversation about something 'worse' until >>> eight years later. There was no talk of a constitutional amendment, and no >>> one even thought it was possible -- and, of course, it turned out it wasn't >>> really possible to happen. ... That was never an argument made in the '90s." >>> >>> • *Hilary Rosen @hilaryr:* @BernieSanders is right. Note to my friends >>> Bill and #Hillary: *Pls stop saying DOMA was to prevent something >>> worse. It wasnt, I was there.* >>> >>> • *@JoeSudbay:* @DavidMixner @MSignorile 96 Clinton campaign's radio >>> ads touting his signature on DOMA undermines this revision too >>> http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/15/us/ad-touts-clinton-s-opposing-gay-marriage.html >>> >>> • *@MSignorile:* How does story from '96 fit Hillary claim DOMA was for >>> our own good? --> Ad Touts Clinton's Opposing Gay Marriage >>> http://nyti.ms/1LPfkVt >>> >>> • *@DavidMixner:* @MSignorile @sudbay *Hillary's version of DADT and >>> DOMA is so wrong. The only 'defensive posture' was for their personal >>> politics not LGBT* >>> >>> • *@MSignorile: Even Elizabeth Birch*, former head of @HRC & a Hillary >>> supporter, slammed Bill for DOMA, refuting Hillary's story. >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-birch/president-clinton-says-do_b_2840112.html >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Jennifer Palmieri < >>> jennifer.m.palmieri@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Plus Christina >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Richard Socarides < >>>> richard.socarides@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Attached expanded TPs which incorporate Qs like when did you actually >>>> change your mind on gay marriage. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Jennifer Palmieri < >>>> jennifer.m.palmieri@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks - plus others >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> > On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Richard Socarides < >>>>> richard.socarides@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > First we have to remember that while that was only 19 years ago, it >>>>> was a different time entirely. Luckily the whole country has evolved since >>>>> then to a much better understanding about what it means to be LGBT. >>>>> > >>>>> > Bill never supported the defense of marriage act. It certainly was >>>>> not a proposal made by his administration. And he called it unnecessary >>>>> even at the time. It was a republican led effort to use a wedge issue >>>>> against him in the election. It passed both houses of Congress with >>>>> overwhelming veto-proof majorities and when he signed it, I think it was >>>>> because he felt he had no other options. Had he vetoed it, his veto would >>>>> surely have been overridden and it would've become a central issue in the >>>>> campaign. I know he wasn't happy about it. And he expressed that at the >>>>> time. Today I'm proud of the fact that he asked the Supreme Court overturn >>>>> legislation that he himself signed. >>>>> > >>>>> > Luckily we are more enlightened country now – and I'm hopeful that >>>>> if I'm elected I can help lead us to an even greater embrace of true >>>>> equality. I've laid out a very specific plan in this regard. Including >>>>> passage of the equality act, continued pressure on our allies to view LGBT >>>>> rights in a human rights context, and perhaps most importantly, making sure >>>>> that all Americans including young people experience the equality the the >>>>> Supreme Court envisioned in this regard. >>>>> > >>>>> > If pressed about whether there was a constitutional amendment issue >>>>> at the time DOMA was signed: you know, I'm not sure it matters at this >>>>> point. Luckily we've evolved well beyond that period. Obviously there have >>>>> been efforts to push a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. >>>>> Luckily it never came about. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Richard >>>>> > 917-400-6178 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Richard Socarides >>>> 917.400.6178 >>>> >>>> <DOMA.LGBT.TPs.Oct2015.docx> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Richard Socarides >>> 917.400.6178 >>> >> -- Richard Socarides 917.400.6178