PistolPete wrote: Yes indeed; God’s plan for the lives of men and women were CLEARLY laid out–and the division of responsibilities were also defined. Women are to submit to the authority of men, and men are to provide and care for such women. This of course means that the whole “white-knight” thing is deeply ingrained in us for a reason. God’s plan is for us the three Ps. Provide, Protect, Procreate—according to God that is our job. Women on the other hand must by definition submit to us in order for us to accomplish the three Ps. Their responsibility is to maintain the home, raise children and be caring, compassionate, and loyal. Obviously women have breached the covenant with God and rejected His plan for them. Thus how can we as men uphold our end of the covenant? Answer we can’t—hence MGTOW. MGTOW is the only rational moral choice left to us.

Provide and care doesn’t mean what you think it means. It doesn’t mean buying 30 pairs of expensive high heels or fashionable clothing or that other stuff. It literally just means a roof over their heads, similar clothing to what a man wears (i.e. cheap stuff) and to provide food—which she is supposed to cook. And that amount of food is supposed to not be that great, certainly not enough to fuel the landwhale epidemic.

But even then, there is actually no requirement for marriage or anything. Proverbs and Corinthians both make that very clear. I don’t believe in the Catholic “marry to God” thing for priests that they made up, but otherwise you are free to do what you want. If you are a fornicator you’re supposed to get married, as God dislikes that. However if you are monk then there is no requirement whatsoever. Marriage is really just to keep people from fornicating and being promiscuous. There are heavy punishments for adultery in religion, which are never applied today.

PistolPete wrote: The muslums as I understand it are not only guided by the koran but they DO recognize the validity of the old testament—and God laid out His plan in the Book of Genesis, which they should recognize.

I wrote before that I thought Muslims would be closer to true Christians and also true Jews than the Churchians of today, but it didn’t go over well, so I guess I’ll just leave that. Personally I do not think there are very many truly religious Jews and Christians left in the world today. I assume Muslims try harder to be religious but I don’t actually really know.