It revealed his character in that moment but it also revealed the brothers’ closeness and similarities, in an odd way. They’re both abusive people.

But also Chuck tells a great big lie when he says, ”The truth is, Jimmy, you never really mattered to me much.” We’ve been watching for 30 hours how central Jimmy has become in his life, or at least part of his life. And how he has associated it with his own troubles, in a way he never has to nail down. So Jimmy mattered a lot in lots of negative ways, and in fact preoccupied Chuck to a certain extent.

So you never found out what sparked Chuck’s disorder?

Nope.

Does that seem odd to you?

No. But there was a moment, in one of the flashback episodes when Chuck and Rebecca are still together, and Jimmy comes to dinner. When she meets him for the first time and she really likes him, they have a lot of laughs. I’m trying to be funny, too, and it just doesn’t land.

We talked about a moment at the end of that scene when they’re both in bed, and I try a joke. And Rebecca doesn’t get it, and she goes, “Oh yes, very funny.” We talked about Chuck then reaching for the light and having it give him a little shock. And we didn’t do it, and I thought hmm, maybe that was a missed opportunity. Maybe that was some way of linking the intrusion of Jimmy McGill and the interruption of this nice simpatico I had with my wife. But hey, I don’t write this stuff.

What was the final day like?

The destruction was a lovely way to go out. That was all me. There were a few holes when they panned the place that I wasn’t responsible for, but I opened them all myself. Was it fun? Yes, it really was. [Laughs.] I remember being a kid watching people tear down a house and thinking, man that would be a great job. So I did enjoy the activity of it.

How do you feel about being killed off the show?

I think it was a pretty good move on their part. I don’t know what the emotional repercussions are going to be for Jimmy. I’m eager to find out, and I’m going to be watching along with everybody else.

I had three years at pretty good money, and I have a lot more that I’d like to do, and now a lot more people who’ve seen my recent work. We’ll see — I love to work. I will miss the gang a lot. There are some beautiful people on the show and I will stay friendly with them because they’re important to me. So I’m good.