Transcript for 'Start Here' podcast: Could Trump pardon himself?

But we turn to the Russian investigation right now. And Rudy Giuliani vowing to fight any effort to subpoena the president. The president's attorneys arguing that a president can not be indicted while in office and he now says trump has the power to pardon himself. But he warns that doing so would trigger immediate consequences. It is his bread milk and cast more. Hey guys community here from the start here studio. And legal experts for already raising eyebrows when president trumps legal team said he isn't capable of obstructing justice but distinct driving the day was when Rudy Giuliani told ABC news that the president could issue a pardon to himself. We would be an open question I think it would probably get answered my gosh that's what the constitution says and if you wanna change it changes but yeah I think the political. Ramifications of that would be tough parting of the people is one thing pardoning itself is another. So I asked ABC's chief legal anchor Dan Abrams. Can hear actually Judy is that true a president can pardon himself bullet it's unclear what that means right because. First of all most believe that a sitting president couldn't be indicted anyway and so it becomes kind of moot secondly the real ramifications. For that would be political rather than legal in the sense that because the president pardoned himself people would view that as an impeachable offense and Rudy Giuliani. Actually admitted this himself you guys he said. If the president goes ahead importance himself he would likely be impeached but the question now is whether president Trump's lawyers are telling him that he's above the law and heat index that entire conversation on start here later this morning. Check it out and apple podcasts if it podcasting app. Candace Maggie.

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