Like quite a few people here, I've been VERY patiently waiting for the release of the Grasshopper, and since about October, my belief and faith in them has eroded, especially lately.Consequently, I've just started looking at alternative (I was a backer from their indiegogo days) vaporizers and just about five days ago I started to read this entire thread, and have just finished.So, I have a few questions. I realize it's too late to get the $169 price with lifetime warranty (I'd be more than happy though if you offered it!!), as I've just discovered this thread, but will the price go up again from $199? The reason I ask is because your website states that you will begin shipping in early October, but it says they are beta units. I prefer to get a final production model, as it's too late to be a tester. Will the units that ship in October really be beta units, or is this just an oversight issue?If those are going to be beta units, when do you expect to ship final production versions?Any guesses for a rough delivery estimate on the single 18650 vape?Also, for anyone interested in making your head explode on battery information, there is a flashlight version of fuckcombustion where they are even more particular than us here. Lots of electronics info there. It can be found at candlepowerforums. comPeople there refer to themselves as flashaholics.