In this month’s edition of V.F. Audio—the audio edition of the magazine, out now—listen to contributing editor Rich Cohen’s profile of True Detective show-runner Nic Pizzolatto.

For the show’s anticipated sophomore season, which premieres June 21 on HBO, Pizzolatto bids farewell to Matthew McConaughey’s philosophizing Rust Cohle and Woody Harrelson’s Marty Hart, and welcomes Colin Farrell, Vince Vaughn, and Rachel McAdams in a whole new story—a move that Cohen argues puts new power in the hands of the writers.

Pizzolatto and Cohen, once collaborators on Magic City, share an essential worldview, he says. “We were both completely raised on television. It’s not just that it’s important to culture—it is culture,” Cohen says. “If you want to tell stories, there’s no better medium than what he’s doing.”

To listen to the full story, download the June issue of V.F. Audio here.