Woll also teased a confrontation between Karen and Wilson Fisk, revealing, “I finally got to do a scene with Vincent [D’Onofrio], and it was fantastic. We were both so excited because he killed my Ben Urich and [unbeknownst to him] I killed his James Wesley, so we have a mutual hate. A very Shakespearean mutual disgust for one another. But as actors, I think we both have tremendous respect for one another, and the opportunity to get to play with him in this brilliantly flamboyant performance that he gives, which is very much a contrast to Karen, you know? So it's just great to get both of those energies in a room and see how they play off each other, and it was a great day. There was a snowstorm out when we shot it, so it felt like we were all stuck on this little sound stage, and the winds are roaring outside and the emotions were roaring inside. It was very cool.”

While such a meeting may seem perilous, Woll actually relishes the way Karen chooses to defend herself, saying, “In terms of fighting and wardrobe, I really enjoy that Karen is not a physical fighter. Because it suggests that you're not strong if you don't fight that way. And I love the fact that because I can't punch you and win, I have to be smarter than you. I have to be three steps ahead of you. So, my strength and my super power is involved in something else. And it's good, because it makes us a better team. That if Matt's the physical force, and Foggy is the kind of logical, law-abiding [type], then I’m the intelligent, 'how to beat them at their own game' type. Then we all kind of cover each other's tracks a little bit.

“Look, Karen is not afraid to get physical. We’ll definitely go back and look in her past, we'll see that violence, physical violence, is not unknown to her. But I enjoy that it's not my first instinct. That my first instinct is to go, ‘I know what you're thinking, and I'm going to get there a day before you and prepare everything so that you're screwed when you get there.’ That's kind of fun for me, that it's a different kind of strength.”

While Foggy and Karen have grief and Fisk to contend with, Sister Maggie is helping Matt Murdock get back on his feet. Joanne Whalley joked a few times about the idea of Maggie having super powers and fight scenes, but provided some more information about the mysterious Sister Maggie and how she plays into the story of Daredevil this season.