You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.



Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.

CysticFibros Profile Joined October 2012 Germany 26 Posts #8981 On February 12 2015 00:51 RampancyTW wrote:

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On February 11 2015 23:40 CysticFibros wrote:

Server: EU

User: oOKiLLyOo

Profil:

battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880

Replay:

http://drop.sc/393727



the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate Server: EUUser: oOKiLLyOoProfil:battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880Replay:the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate



When you sent out your probe, you parked it for a couple seconds under his overlord before the OL moved out of spotting range. It was barely visible, but you could clearly see it parked. Any Zerg player that notices is going to send out a drone to investigate, because a normal scouting probe should NEVER be stopping near your base. Dude...When you sent out your probe, you parked it for a couple seconds under his overlord before the OL moved out of spotting range. It was barely visible, but you could clearly see it parked. Any Zerg player that notices is going to send out a drone to investigate, because a normal scouting probe should NEVER be stopping near your base.



when they look at the replay accurately, them falls on the exact place he looks and aims where I am building the pylon when they look at the replay accurately, them falls on the exact place he looks and aims where I am building the pylon

Elentos Profile Blog Joined February 2015 52843 Posts #8982 On February 12 2015 02:13 CysticFibros wrote:

Show nested quote +

On February 12 2015 00:51 RampancyTW wrote:

On February 11 2015 23:40 CysticFibros wrote:

Server: EU

User: oOKiLLyOo

Profil:

battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880

Replay:

http://drop.sc/393727



the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate Server: EUUser: oOKiLLyOoProfil:battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880Replay:the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate



When you sent out your probe, you parked it for a couple seconds under his overlord before the OL moved out of spotting range. It was barely visible, but you could clearly see it parked. Any Zerg player that notices is going to send out a drone to investigate, because a normal scouting probe should NEVER be stopping near your base. Dude...When you sent out your probe, you parked it for a couple seconds under his overlord before the OL moved out of spotting range. It was barely visible, but you could clearly see it parked. Any Zerg player that notices is going to send out a drone to investigate, because a normal scouting probe should NEVER be stopping near your base.



when they look at the replay accurately, them falls on the exact place he looks and aims where I am building the pylon when they look at the replay accurately, them falls on the exact place he looks and aims where I am building the pylon

Aside from what Rampancy said, he doesn't click your pylon through the fog of war, he just moves his drone to the general position where he last saw your "scouting" probe. Additionally, this thread isn't meant for Platinum level games, and you're a BM prick to an opponent who you presume to be maphacking when you have no evidence. Aside from what Rampancy said, he doesn't click your pylon through the fog of war, he just moves his drone to the general position where he last saw your "scouting" probe. Additionally, this thread isn't meant for Platinum level games, and you're a BM prick to an opponent who you presume to be maphacking when you have no evidence. Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

Xinzoe Profile Joined January 2014 Korea (South) 2359 Posts #8983 On February 11 2015 23:40 CysticFibros wrote:

Server: EU

User: oOKiLLyOo

Profil:

battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880

Replay:

http://drop.sc/393727



the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate Server: EUUser: oOKiLLyOoProfil:battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880Replay:the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate



I know you're a bit frustrated about your loss but there is no hacking here.... I know you're a bit frustrated about your loss but there is no hacking here....

InfCereal Profile Joined December 2011 Canada 1556 Posts #8984 On February 11 2015 23:40 CysticFibros wrote:

Server: EU

User: oOKiLLyOo

Profil:

battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880

Replay:

http://drop.sc/393727



the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate Server: EUUser: oOKiLLyOoProfil:battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880Replay:the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate



Not hacking. If you watch his camera, he sees an idle probe with his overlord, even moves his camera to look at it, then sends a drone out. Not hacking. If you watch his camera, he sees an idle probe with his overlord, even moves his camera to look at it, then sends a drone out. Cereal :: AllThingsZerg.com :: SC2Overwatch.com

FFW_Rude Profile Blog Joined November 2010 France 10169 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:17:21 #8985 On February 12 2015 02:36 Elentos wrote:

Show nested quote +

On February 12 2015 02:13 CysticFibros wrote:

On February 12 2015 00:51 RampancyTW wrote:

On February 11 2015 23:40 CysticFibros wrote:

Server: EU

User: oOKiLLyOo

Profil:

battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880

Replay:

http://drop.sc/393727



the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate Server: EUUser: oOKiLLyOoProfil:battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880Replay:the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate



When you sent out your probe, you parked it for a couple seconds under his overlord before the OL moved out of spotting range. It was barely visible, but you could clearly see it parked. Any Zerg player that notices is going to send out a drone to investigate, because a normal scouting probe should NEVER be stopping near your base. Dude...When you sent out your probe, you parked it for a couple seconds under his overlord before the OL moved out of spotting range. It was barely visible, but you could clearly see it parked. Any Zerg player that notices is going to send out a drone to investigate, because a normal scouting probe should NEVER be stopping near your base.



when they look at the replay accurately, them falls on the exact place he looks and aims where I am building the pylon when they look at the replay accurately, them falls on the exact place he looks and aims where I am building the pylon

Aside from what Rampancy said, he doesn't click your pylon through the fog of war, he just moves his drone to the general position where he last saw your "scouting" probe. Additionally, this thread isn't meant for Platinum level games, and you're a BM prick to an opponent who you presume to be maphacking when you have no evidence. Aside from what Rampancy said, he doesn't click your pylon through the fog of war, he just moves his drone to the general position where he last saw your "scouting" probe. Additionally, this thread isn't meant for Platinum level games, and you're a BM prick to an opponent who you presume to be maphacking when you have no evidence.



Stop pulling "plat level game". A hacker in plat is a hacker in master two days later.



Also there's no hacking there, there could be. It already happen to see plat pllayers reported, and then later reported again and they were masters Stop pulling "plat level game". A hacker in plat is a hacker in master two days later.Also there's no hacking there, there could be. It already happen to see plat pllayers reported, and then later reported again and they were masters #1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".

CysticFibros Profile Joined October 2012 Germany 26 Posts #8986 On February 12 2015 03:10 InfCereal wrote:

Show nested quote +

On February 11 2015 23:40 CysticFibros wrote:

Server: EU

User: oOKiLLyOo

Profil:

battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880

Replay:

http://drop.sc/393727



the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate Server: EUUser: oOKiLLyOoProfil:battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/13346106342511738880Replay:the zerg player scouting exactly there with his drone where I build my proxy gate



Not hacking. If you watch his camera, he sees an idle probe with his overlord, even moves his camera to look at it, then sends a drone out. Not hacking. If you watch his camera, he sees an idle probe with his overlord, even moves his camera to look at it, then sends a drone out.



I'm not frustrated especially since it was an unranked game for me I'm not frustrated especially since it was an unranked game for me

EinHeld Profile Joined January 2012 Germany 11 Posts #8987 [PenǤ]-Clan on EU tolerates Hacker and Booster



Hi guys,



I am a diamond player on EU-Server. A few few weeks ago [Tdg]skYnet (a friend of mine) met a guy who does a lot of Starcraft content on Youtube. This guy is called Beast and was around Platinum Level. He organized a Cup (called BST Cup) where skYnet and me both played in and got to the final. He casted the games and released them to his Youtube Channel:



https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcsycU5gFuOUUwrr7kpE9gw



The day before yesterday skYnet played vs Beast on EU-Ladder in High-Diamond. Beast played quite a bit better than before. Beast told skYnet after the game, he had trained a lot. However when skYnet checked the replay, he noticed, that the hotkeys of Beast were different from before. Also he found some very strong indicators that Beast used Cheats in that game:



First of all. No Mapvision and no scouting the whole Game. Blindcountered the entire opening from the Terran. If you want to check the replay yourself its attached at the bottom of this post.



Exact timings:



06:10 Roach Warren dropped (Saw Techlab + second Factory (without scout)

07:20 Roaches in produciotn (Blueflame research) (without scout)

10:30 Random Spines & Spores @ Second Base (Armory rdy + Medivacs rdy) (without scout)

11:22 Roach Waypoint cross with Hellions (without scout)

12:08 Hellbat Drop (intercepted with Roaches)

19:10 Hellion runby intercepted with whole army without vision

19:30 Attack @ Planetary rigjht as it finished morving (Withour vision)

20:52 Hellion runby intercepted with whole Army (without vision) (check rally points)

22:10 Hellion runby intercepted (left base) (without vision)

24:20 Hellion runby intercepted (left base) (withou vision)

25:10 Hellion runby intercepted (middle base) (without vision)

29:44 Hellbat drop intercepted (without vision)



When then moved on to check his hotkeys. This are the hotkeys of Beast when he played in his BST-Cup vs a Clanmate of me:



http://i.imgur.com/VC0DF61.png



While here are the hotkeys of Beast vs skYnet from the ladder:



http://i.imgur.com/vJZwqUF.png



So we concluded, that an other player must have played on Beasts Account. We checked his Clan and asked NoN (the only one who seemed to be strong enough to boost Beast), if he could send us a replay. But he refused. But we found a replay of NoN on ggtracker.com. Here are the hotkeys of this replay:



http://i.imgur.com/XHj9d5S.png



If you compare it to the Hotkeys of Beast, you can see that it has exactly the same pattern as in the game he played against skYnet. So we concluded, that NoN does boost Beast (propably for publicity for his Youtube Channel). So we contacted Cell (the leader of Penguin Gaming) and showed him the evidence. He told us he would take care of it. When we contacted him the next day again, he told us, he had talked to them and if they did something like that again, they would be kicked from the clan. We then contacted Beast and asked him to delete the VODs from his Youtube Channel. We dont want our name to be associated with hackers and boosters. He first denied, that anybody else played on his account, later he admitted it but refused to delete the VODs. We told him to delete the VODs until yesterday 24:00, else we would release the replays and proof to Teamliquid. Now he does not answer us at all anymore. I warned the Clanleader that i would do this, but this time he answered very negativ and told us his Clanmember would not hack. While we wrote and prepared this text several members of his team contacted me, skYnet and my Clanleader and threatend us to not release anything. If you want to check the proof, here are the replays:



https://www.dropbox.com/s/8dkjwdurik8227i/BeastVSskYnet.SC2Replay?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3hqqykbszz4wewh/BeastVSUnknown.SC2Replay?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ysa15z7yzdc11gm/NoNVSScylla.SC2Replay?dl=0



Why did we post all this here? First of all we told him we would post this stuff here and also, we want this thread as a proof that we can post to people when he again hosts tournaments and stuff. If you want any more information feel free to ask. Hi guys,I am a diamond player on EU-Server. A few few weeks ago [Tdg]skYnet (a friend of mine) met a guy who does a lot of Starcraft content on Youtube. This guy is called Beast and was around Platinum Level. He organized a Cup (called BST Cup) where skYnet and me both played in and got to the final. He casted the games and released them to his Youtube Channel:The day before yesterday skYnet played vs Beast on EU-Ladder in High-Diamond. Beast played quite a bit better than before. Beast told skYnet after the game, he had trained a lot. However when skYnet checked the replay, he noticed, that the hotkeys of Beast were different from before. Also he found some very strong indicators that Beast used Cheats in that game:First of all. No Mapvision and no scouting the whole Game. Blindcountered the entire opening from the Terran. If you want to check the replay yourself its attached at the bottom of this post.Exact timings:06:10 Roach Warren dropped (Saw Techlab + second Factory (without scout)07:20 Roaches in produciotn (Blueflame research) (without scout)10:30 Random Spines & Spores @ Second Base (Armory rdy + Medivacs rdy) (without scout)11:22 Roach Waypoint cross with Hellions (without scout)12:08 Hellbat Drop (intercepted with Roaches)19:10 Hellion runby intercepted with whole army without vision19:30 Attack @ Planetary rigjht as it finished morving (Withour vision)20:52 Hellion runby intercepted with whole Army (without vision) (check rally points)22:10 Hellion runby intercepted (left base) (without vision)24:20 Hellion runby intercepted (left base) (withou vision)25:10 Hellion runby intercepted (middle base) (without vision)29:44 Hellbat drop intercepted (without vision)When then moved on to check his hotkeys. This are the hotkeys of Beast when he played in his BST-Cup vs a Clanmate of me:While here are the hotkeys of Beast vs skYnet from the ladder:So we concluded, that an other player must have played on Beasts Account. We checked his Clan and asked NoN (the only one who seemed to be strong enough to boost Beast), if he could send us a replay. But he refused. But we found a replay of NoN on ggtracker.com. Here are the hotkeys of this replay:If you compare it to the Hotkeys of Beast, you can see that it has exactly the same pattern as in the game he played against skYnet. So we concluded, that NoN does boost Beast (propably for publicity for his Youtube Channel). So we contacted Cell (the leader of Penguin Gaming) and showed him the evidence. He told us he would take care of it. When we contacted him the next day again, he told us, he had talked to them and if they did something like that again, they would be kicked from the clan. We then contacted Beast and asked him to delete the VODs from his Youtube Channel. We dont want our name to be associated with hackers and boosters. He first denied, that anybody else played on his account, later he admitted it but refused to delete the VODs. We told him to delete the VODs until yesterday 24:00, else we would release the replays and proof to Teamliquid. Now he does not answer us at all anymore. I warned the Clanleader that i would do this, but this time he answered very negativ and told us his Clanmember would not hack. While we wrote and prepared this text several members of his team contacted me, skYnet and my Clanleader and threatend us to not release anything. If you want to check the proof, here are the replays:Why did we post all this here? First of all we told him we would post this stuff here and also, we want this thread as a proof that we can post to people when he again hosts tournaments and stuff. If you want any more information feel free to ask.

eXeTimelog Profile Joined July 2011 Netherlands 29 Posts #8988 While it might be that guy NoN that played on that account, the timings you wrote down are not only no proof of hacking, some are even pretty normal (for the level/league). A roach warren at 6:10 is not as weird as it may sound, and 7:20 roaches is not weird at all (7:30 is a normal hellion timing).



The spines and spores are because of the map (army rally is at third, so defending the natural is harder in this map), and he spotted the first drop/pressure. Also, the fact that he killed the planetary is not proof either, apart from the fact he scouted it pretty late (I would have checked there earlier myself, especially considering there was a barracks floating about (nice indicator it is mech btw, just in case)).



Honestly, I see little evidence of hacking in that replay. As far as boosting goes, well that is possible, although getting coached by NoN is just as much possible of course. I have no idea of Hotkey setups, so can't tell if it might be a normal setup he is using (The Core for example). Terrible Starcraft 2 player, SC2 EU Battle.Net MVP and overall gaming enthousiast.

EinHeld Profile Joined January 2012 Germany 11 Posts #8989 I know that some of the things i wrote down are not proofs, like the Roach-Timing. But did you check how he reacted to the hellion runbys? He moves his army multiple times before he sees anything. About the boosting the evidence is even clearer. Hotkeys/Spam is like a fingerprint. It's just not possible to fake this

Eyneri Profile Joined February 2015 Barbados 3 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-14 21:32:47 #8990 hi, i watched the replays and talked to the players. you are very angry. thats right

but seems so that you dont have right in the hacking point. Whatever you are a man who dont stand to his word. u dont wait before you post this crap (you set a deadline and post before). and from two adult mans serious.. who are raging about a kid who is better and have a lucky one. you are awkward in this point.



And i understand why the leader want to talk to NoN and dont make it public. 16 years is just a child. would you rage about your little brother online? it is your mistake to make this discussion (including names) public! that should not be !



fuck yes youre adult!?!



next time take the apologize and let them talk clanintern. Lets get ready to rumble

EinHeld Profile Joined January 2012 Germany 11 Posts #8991 As you said here I gave him the chance to delete the Videos. If I check his channel now, the videos are still there... Thats the only reason I made it public...

Eyneri Profile Joined February 2015 Barbados 3 Posts #8992 but why are you punishing non? when beast is the owner of the channel? Lets get ready to rumble

Eyneri Profile Joined February 2015 Barbados 3 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-14 22:37:50 #8993 On February 15 2015 06:55 EinHeld wrote:

As you said here I gave him the chance to delete the Videos. If I check his channel now, the videos are still there... Thats the only reason I made it public...





BTW THE VIDEOS ARENT ONLINE! BTW THE VIDEOS ARENT ONLINE! Lets get ready to rumble

BadBorz Profile Joined June 2012 Canada 60 Posts #8994

Server: EU

League: Master

Race: Zerg

Profile:

IG Link: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/5611929372760997888

Replay:

Description:



Playing a trash american player this morning who decided to migrate on EU server to poluated it too with hacks. He knows everywhere my army is in fog, rush to my fourth base when i just made it, rush to my nydus before he pop out etc maphacker certified 200%. plz ban this faggot Hacker name: SmurferServer: EULeague: MasterRace: ZergProfile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5377062/1/Smurfer/ IG Link: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/5611929372760997888Replay: http://drop.sc/393969 Description:Playing a trash american player this morning who decided to migrate on EU server to poluated it too with hacks. He knows everywhere my army is in fog, rush to my fourth base when i just made it, rush to my nydus before he pop out etc maphacker certified 200%. plz ban this faggot

Gwavajuice Profile Joined June 2014 France 1810 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-16 11:13:36 #8995 On February 16 2015 16:37 BadBorz wrote:

... plz ban this faggot



From the forums? I think admins know to enforce the forum rules when someone is not respecting them...



From battle.net? nobody has the power to do this here, this thread is just to raise awarness about master/gm hackers when there are solid evidence and for public shame...



If you think Blizzard should ban someone though, report them, with replay file attached (not a link to a replay, the replay file itslef!!!)

From the forums? I think admins know to enforce the forum rules when someone is not respecting them...From battle.net? nobody has the power to do this here, this thread is just to raise awarness about master/gm hackers when there are solid evidence and for public shame...If you think Blizzard should ban someone though, report them, with replay file attached (not a link to a replay, the replay file itslef!!!) Dear INno and all the former STX boys.

Jade Profile Joined January 2011 Poland 288 Posts Last Edited: 2015-02-16 12:15:02 #8996

sigh @KRN_Jade "Patience is a small price to pay for perfection."

Bouli Profile Joined June 2012 Belgium 15 Posts #8997 http://drop.sc/393973

NeverDie

High master EU / toss

Blind proxygate inbase on catallena.. NeverDieHigh master EU / tossBlind proxygate inbase on catallena.. Appear strong when you are weak

Nakoz Profile Joined July 2013 24 Posts #8998 On February 16 2015 16:37 BadBorz wrote:

Hacker name: Smurfer

Server: EU

League: Master

Race: Zerg

Profile:

IG Link: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/5611929372760997888

Replay:

Description:



Playing a trash american player this morning who decided to migrate on EU server to poluated it too with hacks. He knows everywhere my army is in fog, rush to my fourth base when i just made it, rush to my nydus before he pop out etc maphacker certified 200%. plz ban this faggot Hacker name: SmurferServer: EULeague: MasterRace: ZergProfile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5377062/1/Smurfer/ IG Link: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/5611929372760997888Replay: http://drop.sc/393969 Description:Playing a trash american player this morning who decided to migrate on EU server to poluated it too with hacks. He knows everywhere my army is in fog, rush to my fourth base when i just made it, rush to my nydus before he pop out etc maphacker certified 200%. plz ban this faggot



not saying he doesnt cheat, but at the first 5 minutes of the replay, you blind countered him and obtain a build order win against the map hacker. wouldnt that make you a huge hacker ? not saying he doesnt cheat, but at the first 5 minutes of the replay, you blind countered him and obtain a build order win against the map hacker. wouldnt that make you a huge hacker ?

Xinzoe Profile Joined January 2014 Korea (South) 2359 Posts #8999 On February 16 2015 23:42 Bouli wrote:

http://drop.sc/393973

NeverDie

High master EU / toss

Blind proxygate inbase on catallena.. NeverDieHigh master EU / tossBlind proxygate inbase on catallena..



this guy always cannon rushers or 10 gates. blind proxy gates would'nt be that uncommon for him. no conclusive proof here sry this guy always cannon rushers or 10 gates. blind proxy gates would'nt be that uncommon for him. no conclusive proof here sry

InfCereal Profile Joined December 2011 Canada 1556 Posts #9000 On February 16 2015 23:52 nakoz wrote:

Show nested quote +

On February 16 2015 16:37 BadBorz wrote:

Hacker name: Smurfer

Server: EU

League: Master

Race: Zerg

Profile:

IG Link: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/5611929372760997888

Replay:

Description:



Playing a trash american player this morning who decided to migrate on EU server to poluated it too with hacks. He knows everywhere my army is in fog, rush to my fourth base when i just made it, rush to my nydus before he pop out etc maphacker certified 200%. plz ban this faggot Hacker name: SmurferServer: EULeague: MasterRace: ZergProfile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5377062/1/Smurfer/ IG Link: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/5611929372760997888Replay: http://drop.sc/393969 Description:Playing a trash american player this morning who decided to migrate on EU server to poluated it too with hacks. He knows everywhere my army is in fog, rush to my fourth base when i just made it, rush to my nydus before he pop out etc maphacker certified 200%. plz ban this faggot



not saying he doesnt cheat, but at the first 5 minutes of the replay, you blind countered him and obtain a build order win against the map hacker. wouldnt that make you a huge hacker ? not saying he doesnt cheat, but at the first 5 minutes of the replay, you blind countered him and obtain a build order win against the map hacker. wouldnt that make you a huge hacker ?



He didn't blind counter anything. He opened 15 pool, which is normal. He scouted no expansion at the opponents natural, and everything else is defensive from there.

He didn't blind counter anything. He opened 15 pool, which is normal. He scouted no expansion at the opponents natural, and everything else is defensive from there. Cereal :: AllThingsZerg.com :: SC2Overwatch.com

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