PlanetSmasher said: Compared to what we were led to believe before. It's still obviously more powerful than the Boner, though the gap is significantly smaller than it was before. Less RAM also means a lower ceiling for performance, which means a shorter gen. Click to expand...

SneakyStephan said: We have exactly the same we had before, two underpowered consoles.

8GB ram didn't make up for the disproportionally low bandwidth (single pc gpus that don't have to share their bandwidth with the cpu are already at 280GB/s and in 2015 memory stacking is here for upwards of 300GB/sec for system ram and 500-1TB/sec vram)

It was never going to be future proof or even just high end at release.



The gpu was never powerful enough to do much with all that ram anyhow.



I'm not excusing sony for reserving this much ram, I'm just saying the 'windows 7 only takes 1GB of ram' etc is besides the point, as chrome/firefox will take up another 1-2GB with a bunch of tabs open and other multitasking stuff needs memory too. Click to expand...

This post reeks of a lack of understanding on how development works.That's what I've noted in several posts. It's true that the base OS needs 1GB~ to function. Then you start your browser, your streaming program, your capture SW, some media apps, Steam, virus protection, and an intensive 2GB+ game. I now have about 6GB of memory used. This was just what heppened last night when I streamed the Payday 2 beta.Imagine if some sat and thought for just a second on how much memory allocation is needed to run things efficiently instead of thinking that 5GB+ isn't good enough for games when devs have no issue.I want someone on here to tell me what they want devs to use that memory for when a lot of them don't even know what to do with it right now. Shall they toss in high resolution nose hairs or ragdoll physics on pubes to use more to satisfy the ones here who are saying that the memory isn't enough? It has to come down to stupid sarcasms like that because this whole issue is not a problem. Far from it.