SShanging:

There are positives and there are negatives to China. One of the positives of China is their high-speed rail system. It is one of the best in the world, especially with a country the size of China. To many here, there's little to admire of China, but most would agree the high-speed rail system is a net positive to China.





westiseast:

I was talking to a friend the other night about all the times before when I was stuck on shit, scammy long-distances buses or 27hr trains or whatever. Haven't had an experience like that in a long while.





w00t4me:

You haven't lived til you've done a 27hr train ride on a hard seat.





laowaispy:

It worked well for Japan, it should work well for china. Optimizing infrastructure is important, and going up in speed is a good thing. I have to wonder what the utilization rates are though; they can't really use this for freight.





ethanGeltan:

I would say most things related to infrastructure they are absolutely crushing the west.





SailTheWorldWithMe:

Because of HSR I never have to fly domestic ever. I freaking love it.





Diaosinanshi:

Yeah airports are such a pain in the ass in China, especially Shanghai pudong. It honestly makes no sense to go through security 3 times (once at maglev, once before entering terminal, and the formal security check) before entering the gate. I almost missed my morning flight last weekend because of the long lines that this shit causes.





SailTheWorldWithMe:

Agreed. I usually only need to be at my train station 45 minutes prior to departure to make it through the security check.





HotNatured:

I guess it depends on where you're traveling. Have you done sleeper trains before?

I want to do some of the more touristy spots sooner than later for sure (Guizhou, for instance), but the trains can be quite long. To Guizhou it's something like 11 hours whereas a flight is under 5.

Only train I've done here so far has been Beijing-Shanghai HSR, and the scenery wasn't exactly beautiful. Maybe when you take the train elsewhere you get a bit luckier with your surroundings?





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memostothefuture:

I was confused upon seeing the Fuzhou-Taipei grey line but it turns out the Chinese government has in fact proposed an undersea tunnel. The Taiwanese government on the other hand, according to wikipedia, has little interest in it and it's unlikely to go forward.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing%E2%80%93Taipei_High-Speed_Rail_Corridor

Beijing–Taipei High-Speed Rail Corridor

Beijing–Taipei High-Speed Rail Corridor (Mainland section)

The Beijing–Taipei High-Speed Railway Corridor (simplified Chinese: 京台高速铁路; traditional Chinese: 京台高速鐵路; pinyin: Jīngtái Gāosù Tiělù), also known as Beijing-Fuzhou High-Speed Railway (simplified Chinese: 京福高速铁路; traditional Chinese: 京福高速鐵路; pinyin: Jīngfú Gāosù Tiělù) due to the political status of Taiwan, is a partly completed high-speed railway corridor, connecting Beijing and Taipei, in Taiwan. The railway will share track with Beijing–Shanghai High-Speed Railway between Beijing and Bengbu; between Bengbu and Hefei, it is known as Hefei–Bengbu High-Speed Railway; between Hefei and Fuzhou, it is known as Hefei–Fuzhou High-Speed Railway, now operational; between Fuzhou and Pingtan Island on the western side of Taiwan Strait, it will be known as Fuzhou–Pingtan Railway; from Pingtan to Hsinchu, the line is called the Pingtan–Hsinchu High-Speed Railway the line would cross an undersea tunnel has been proposed by the Chinese government; from Hsinchu to Taipei, it would share track with the Taiwan High Speed Rail. Due to a lack of interest and political concerns by the Taiwanese government arising from its adversarial relationship with China, the Pingtan-Taipei portion of the railway headed to Taiwan seems unlikely to be constructed and has no set start date.





The thing about that is though ... if you've seen the insanely impressive construction they have already pulled off it's tough to doubt they would actually get such a massive tunnel done.





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