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MAP: Dual Citizenship Around the World [2018]

ovMe Hub ^ | Feb. 9, 2018 | HARRIET CANN

Posted on by BlackAdderess

Many countries in the last year are rethinking their policies on dual citizenship, which would greatly help those immigrants moving abroad and naturalised citizens. There are benefits for have two or more passports that extend beyond the UK/EU line at borders; travelling and working in more than one country is the way forward.



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Is dual citizenship a good or a bad thing? It seems like having competing citizensips might divide a person's loyalties, but the countries that don't allow it or severely restrict it are not that great. Cuba, Venezuela, Somalia, don't allow for dual citizensip. I also wonder about that Saudi doctor who was allegedly detained without charges and tortured in Saudi Arabia despite being a dual citizen. Saudi Arabia doesn't appear to allow for dual citizenship or renouncing of citizenship. What do you all think of this issue?



To: BlackAdderess

It’s a very bad thing.



To: BlackAdderess

For a US citizen to also become a Canadian citizen, that US citizen will have to swear allegiance to the queen of England. Ain’t happening.



To: BlackAdderess

There’s no such thing as dual loyalty. One Nation always comes first.



by 4 posted onby mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)

To: BlackAdderess

It helped the Kenyan.



by 5 posted onby bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)

To: BlackAdderess

The money quotes are at the bottom of the linked page. Do you think more countries should allow dual citizenship and keep up with global forward trends? Share your thoughts with us below! A component of the Globalism vs Nationalism debate. The next Dim President will probably waive all fees.



by 6 posted onby Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)

To: BlackAdderess

I think only children under the age of 21 should be allowed dual citizenship. when you turn 18 years old you then have a three year window to declare your elegance after that if you are not in country at the time you loose your American citizenship if you are in country you must declare or be deported to the country that you claim to be a citizen of.



To: BlackAdderess

I am agin it. I see it as a divided loyalty. It is contrary to the meaning and purpose of national sovereignty - loyalty to only one sovereign.



To: TopDog2

For a US citizen to also become a Canadian citizen, that US citizen will have to swear allegiance to the queen of England. Aint happening. Nope,not true.Not *entirely* true at least.Having researched the subject I know a bit about it. Focusing specifically on the US and Canada there are at least 3 different ways that a person can become citizens of both. One is to have a parent who's a citizen of one having one of his/her children born in the other.One of many examples is a little town on the Vermont/Quebec border called Derby Line.I read that for years the closest hospital to the areas of Quebec close to Derby Line was in the United States.As a result many pregnant Canadian women gave birth in that US hospital.As a result,it's said that many people in that particular region are US *and* Canadian citizens. Another example...I am a citizen of the US and Ireland.That's true because my mother was born in Ireland and under Irish law that automatically makes her *and* every one of her children...regardless of where they might have been born...Irish citizens.And given that I was born in the US I'm an American citizen. And just for the record (in case you're wondering)...if the US and Ireland were ever to go to war I'd fight for the US...without a millisecond of hesitation.I feel absolutely no allegiance to Ireland.



To: PCPOET7

“Declare your elegance”. Hey, that’s a neat concept. That way everyone can be elegant. (I suppos you meant allegiance)



To: captain_dave

Forgot an “e”. It’s a shame we can’t edit posts.



To: BlackAdderess

My granddaughter has triple citizenshipU.S., she was born here to American father and Costa Rican mother, Costa Ricanthrough her mother, and Canadianher dad got her Canadian citizenship as a minor when he became a Canadian citizen. Only problem it gives her is when she goes back to C.R. She must use her C.R. passport to enter or leave Costa Rica. She lives and works in California. I don’t think she even thinks of her citizenship status except when she travels back to see her mom.



To: BlackAdderess

If one wants to pay two sets of taxes and have two sets of obligations, then have at it. Wise nations should pass a law forbidding dual citizenship for net tax takers instead of net tax payers, and have some stringent requirements to avoid our current border problems.



by 13 posted onby Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)

To: BlackAdderess

Countries might not punish a person for holding dual citizenship, but that doesn’t mean it’s recognized. A Saudi who is a US citizen can’t use Saudi citizenship to escape any consequences of his actions in the US, and I’m sure SA feels the same way about their laws. It’s a dangerous game.



To: TopDog2

How can the President of the US, and one who swears allegiance to the US such as a military service possibly also bear allegiance to another country?? Also, I don’t know about now, but a few years past,when a naturalized citizen took his/her oath of allegiance had to disclaim allegiance to any other country. There is a name for that denial but I just don’t recall it.



by 15 posted onby elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)

To: elpadre

The feds used to treat acquiring foreign citizenship as a renunciation of US citizenship. It was the USSC that changed that in the ‘60s.



To: jjotto

That’s the word - renunciation. Why did they stop requiring renunciation?- was that the beginning of the one world order movement??



by 17 posted onby elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)

To: BlackAdderess

While I was not a big fan of dual citizenship, my daughter has it, Thai and US. It matters because only Thai’s by law are allowed to own Thailand real estate, so she will be able to inherit the multiple properties her mom owns. Secondly if there is ever a major regime change she has a fallback country. I hope to persuade her to go to Annapolis, but only if they waiver the requirement to give up dual citizenship. It’s a financial issue. And while Thailand does not recognize dual citizenship, they seem to allow it.



by 18 posted onby where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)

To: captain_dave

thanks for pointing a mistake I can correct out.



To: BlackAdderess

It seems like having competing citizensips might divide a person’s loyalties,  My take after thinking about this for 6 years... 1. The only way to not be owned and controlled by a government is dual citizenship. 2. Dual (or greater) citizenship is most common because of identification - grandparents were Irish or Italian - and not equal loyalty to a nation. 3. Dual citizenship provides more than one travel document - that ensues the right of freedom of movement. This has become more important, as the IRS keeps creating more reasons to cancel or prevent issuance of a US passport. 4. For those that come from a country with a really lousy passport (doesnt allow visa-free travel to many countries), a second passport can make all the difference. 5. For those who are from a failing country, like South Africa, a second citizenship and passport can save your life and open up a new future. Ive met several people from S. Africa who had the right to leave and start over elsewhere because one parent was Irish and got the family citizenship by descent and passports that allowed their escape. I concluded that since we do not know the future, its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Your mileage may vary.



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