A couple weeks ago we brought up some conversation on the black hat forums around a new Google Sandbox.

The Google Sandbox dates back to 2004 where new sites would sit in a hold pattern, i.e. a sandbox, until Google felt they should come out and play with the other kids and begin ranking.

Well, it seems more and more black hat SEOs who do "churn and burn" SEO are talking about it. We covered it a couple of weeks ago and now we have more threads on it.

A thread from Black Hat Underground has more black hat SEOs claiming the sandbox is back. One wrote:

Sites get stuck at page 2-5 and don't move for a long time no matter what you do. I have also experienced the same thing on my new sites. No matter how many high PR links with good metrics i throw at the sites. They don't respond at all.

The nice part is that in this thread, they are documenting everything. Showing the site being "stuck" and then slowly increasing but not at the speeds most this black hat SEOs expect.

Is this version 2.0 of the Google Sandbox?

Forum discussion at Black Hat Underground.