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THE REPUBLICANS. WHERE IS THE CONSENSUS ON -- BETWEEN THE PARTIES ON HOW TO DEAL WITH GUN SAFETY? MR. KASICH: FIRST OF ALL, ALL THESE INSTITUTIONS NEED TO HAVE SECURITY PLANS. WE ARE TRYING TO PUSH THEM THROUGH ALL OUR SCHOOLS IN OHIO. THERE IS ABSOLUTE CONSENSUS. SECOND, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS PERSON'S HISTORY IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT ARE REPORTING SO THAT THE MENTALLY ILL CANNOT GET THEIR HANDS ON THESE GUNS. I THINK THAT IS A CONSENSUS, TOO. AND BEDS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE FAMILY KNOWS AND CAN GET THEM SOMEPLACE WHERE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO KILL THEMSELVES AND KILL SOME OTHERS OR AT LEAST HURT THEMSELVES. MARK: IF YOU GET ELECTED PRESIDENT AND THE INCIDENCE OF MASS SHOOTINGS IS AS HIGH UNDER YOUR PRESIDENCY IS A HAS BEEN UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA, HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE DEGREE TO WHICH YOUR PRIORITY WOULD BE TO FIND A WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT? MR. KASICH: IT'S ONE OF MANY ISSUES, BUT WE HAD A SCHOOL SHOOTING IN OHIO, BUT I WAS THERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. THESE ARE UNBELIEVABLE TRAGEDIES , AND OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE HIGH, AND THE THINGS WE CAN DO BOTH FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT AND THE ABILITY TO NOT HAVE THE SOFT SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO PREPARE -- EVERYBODY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU. MARK: YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR GOVERNMENT, NOT NECESSARILY DONE SUPPORT, BUT A PRIORITY FOR YOUR ADMINISTRATION TO FIND WAYS TO REDUCE THOSE? MR. KASICH: WE NEED TO LET STATES KNOW WHAT REALLY WORKS. A LOT OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING IS TAKING THINGS THAT NEED TO WORK -- THAT WORK IN ONE PLACE AND TRANSFERRING THEM, IF IT'S VIOLENCE, DRUGS, MENTORING -- I WANT TO SHIFT POWER BACK TO THE STATES AND LET STATES COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT CAN BE SHARED WITH OTHER STATES. MARK: YOU USED TO BE A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE. KEVIN MCCARTHY IS RUNNING BASICALLY UNOPPOSED FOR SPEAKER. MR. KASICH: I DON'T THINK THAT'S MY PLACE ANY MORE THAN I WOULD PICK THE SPEAKER OR LEADER IN OHIO, BUT I THINK HE HAS A GOOD PERSONALITY, AND I THINK HE IS A GUY WHO DOES CONNECT AND THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM AS PRESIDENT. MARK: WILL YOU PUT FORWARD YOUR PROPOSAL TO SUBMIT A BALANCE BUDGET TO CONGRESS IN YOUR FIRST TERM? MR. KASICH: I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD DO THAT EXACTLY, BUT THERE'S NO MYSTERY IN WHAT I DO. I HAVE ONLY WRITTEN 18 BUDGETS, WHICH IS 18 MORE THAN YOU HAVE WRITTEN, SO PEOPLE -- IF THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT MY PRIORITIES ARE, THEY JUST NEED TO LOOK AT MY RECORD. MARK: YOU ARE RUNNING AS A GUY WHO KNOWS HOW TO BALANCE BUDGETS. WOULD YOU PLEDGE AND PUT FORWARD SOMETHING NOW TO SAY TO PEOPLE, "HERE IS ONE OF MY BUDGETS TO GET TO BALANCE." MR. KASICH: I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DONE -- TO BE DIRECT ABOUT IT, ANYONE WHO SAYS IT CAN BE DONE IN FOUR YEARS OR WHATEVER DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S A PROCESS. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE PLAN THAT SHOWS YOU HOW TO GET THERE OVER TIME, AND THAT IS WHAT I WOULD DO AS PRESIDENT. MARK: COULD YOU GUARANTEE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT 14 OF TERMS THAT BY THE END -- MR. KASICH: AGAIN, I DO NOT WANT TO LAY OUT SPECIFIC YEARS BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO EAT MY WORDS, BUT IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ME. IF WE CAN HAVE A LEGITIMATE PLAN TO GET US ONTO A BALANCED BUDGET COUPLED WITH ECONOMIC GROWTH, THE ECONOMY WOULD BEGIN TO TAKE OFF. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE DONE IN OHIO, BUT I ALSO KNOW ANY OF THE SPECIFICS I ROLLOUT WILL PROBABLY BE USED AS A CLUB BY SOMEONE TO BEAT ME OVER THE HEAD . YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE SMART AND MEASURED IN THE WAY YOU DO IT. YOU DO NOT WANT TO MAKE THE, BOLD PREDICTIONS -- BIG, BOLD PREDICTIONS. MARK: WHAT ABOUT WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THAT UNDERMINES YOUR CREDIBILITY GAP IN YOU ARE RUNNING AS A GUY WHO BALANCES BUDGETS AND SAID IN EIGHT YEARS YOU WILL NOT HAVE IT BALANCED? MR. KASICH: I GOT THE BUDGET BALANCED IN OHIO. I THINK WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS CREDIBILITY. I THINK I HAVE CREDIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO FISCAL DISCIPLINE, MAKING HARD DECISIONS DEALING WITH ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS. I WILL NOT SEND YOU ALL 18, BUT I WILL SEND YOU FOUR OR FIVE OF MY BUDGETS, AND YOU CAN EXAMINE THEM. I WOULD BE GLAD TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE DO IT. YOU KNOW WHY OUTSIDERS ARE DOING WELL NOW? BECAUSE POLITICIANS MAKE PROMISES AND DO NOT KEEP THEM. I AM GOING TO COMMIT THIS -- WE WILL BE ON A STRONG FISCAL DISCIPLINE. WE WILL DEAL WITH ENTITLEMENTS AND THE TAX CODE, AND WE WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE A ROADMAP THAT WILL TAKE US TO A BALANCED BUDGET AND BEGIN DEALING WITH THE DEFICIT. MARK: CRAZY CYCLE. LOTS OF CANDIDATES. CAN YOU BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IF YOU DO NOT WIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE? MR. KASICH: WHATEVER YOU PREDICT, IF I CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT, THEN I'M ON A ROLL. MARK: ARE YOU MORE CONFIDENT YOU WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAN YOU WERE WHEN YOU GOT IN THE RACE? MR. KASICH: I FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. MARK: WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF NOW? MR. KASICH: RISING. THE INTERESTING THING -- YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL RISE REAL HIGH. THE QUESTION IS IF THERE IS ANYTHING UNDERNEATH THAT RISE IN THE POLLS THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE SUPPORT AND STRENGTH. THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE ARE BUILDING, PARTICULARLY HERE. SOMEWHAT, WE ARE BEGINNING TO BUILD IN IOWA, BUT THE KEY IS NOT JUST TO FLOAT TO THE TOP WITH NOTHING UNDERNEATH. WE ARE BUILDING FROM THE GROUND UP, AND IT'S GETTING STRONGER AND STRONGER. LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ENDORSED ME TODAY , I THINK WE ARE BUILDING STRENGTH AND BUILDING IT A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME, AND THAT IS HOW YOU DO IT. THAT'S HOW I HAVE DONE IT MY WHOLE CAREER. MARK: STAY WITH US. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING FUN RIGHT AFTER THIS. ♪