With all the terrible things going on in the world today, it’s nice to be reminded that some things remain unchanged even in Trump’s brave new America.

The Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, I am happy to report, remains a small oasis of stability in a rapidly changing world. Reddit’s MGTOWs are the same creepy weirdos they’ve always been.

Today, for example, the regulars in the MGTOW subreddit are waxing indignant about a young woman who had the temerity to take a butt-selfie in her bathroom while carrying a baby in a baby sling. As bathroom butt-selfies go, it’s pretty tame; she’s wearing underwear, and it’s not even particularly scanty. And the baby clearly has no idea what’s going on.

But the MGTOWs manage to work themselves into a frenzy nonetheless. Not so much about her butt or even the baby but about her UNFORGIVABLE FAILURE TO PUT THE TOILET PAPER ROLL IN THE TOILET PAPER DISPENSER.

I dunno, dudes. It could be that the loose-toilet-paper-roll gals of the world know that if they put rolls in the dispenser, this will happen:

Or this:

Or possibly this:

I mean, it’s cute and all, but these little monsters can rapidly deplete even the most substantial hoard of toilet paper.

Back on Reddit, meanwhile, other MGTOW subreddit regulars are working themselves into a lather over the smudges on butt-selfie-gal’s mirror.

Chad and Tyrone, that is really very impolite. I expect more from you, Chad and Tyrone!

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