Former Watergate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks explained the ways in which President Donald Trump was outed for several crimes thanks to Michael Cohen’s testimony.

The minority members of the House Oversight Committee spent most of the hearing calling Cohen a liar but didn’t refute any of his claims that were verified by documents.

Wine-Banks called him credible, not necessarily for what he revealed, but for what he did not.

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“He was very careful in his testimony which is, of course, I think what partly made him credible yesterday,” she told MSNBC on Thursday. “He did not stretch the truth. He really stuck to the facts that he knew as much as he could.”

She noted that Cohen needs a specific way of proving the president and his lawyers were the ones who changed his Congressional testimony that convicted him. Without proof, there might not be that much that was gained from the claims.

“Now he did make it clear that he knew that he was testifying falsely and the president knew he was testifying falsely and he was doing it, in his view, because the president had sort of winked and nodded to him,” Wine-Banks continued.

She also explained that as a former Mafia prosecutor, she understands the “codes” that are often used.

“The mafia doesn’t say go kill someone. They don’t say go bribe someone. They say, ‘I want to meet with Mr. Green.’ So, if there are codes that can be understood by Cohen — who correctly understood the president’s code — then the president is responsible,” she said.

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She went on to say that she found the most monumental moment to be when Cohen released the check with the president’s notorious signature on it.

“The same signature he uses now on legislation and holds up proudly before the cameras,” she went on. “So, it was a very dramatic piece of corroboration.”

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