I notice that everyone encourages suicidal people to reach out, talk, etc. on TV and in pamphlets... but I think most people really don't want to hear it. I think there's great truth to the saying, "nobody loves you when you're down and out."

Then, after the person commits the act, some family and friends are *angry* and talk about "their selfishness." To quote Jack Nicholson, "Are they out of their freakin' minds?" Especially considering the way some people take their lives. You think anyone who shoots themselves, hangs themselves, or jumps off a building is in their right mind at ALL? I'm sure they're so sorry they didn't mind their manners and treat YOU unselfishly. Some of those same people probably would've bolted or found an excuse to leave the room if the person had actually wanted to have a heart-to-heart about their problems; or they would've changed the subject or something.

Truth is, what most people would really prefer is just for these people to suffer in silence or get over it. Not burden them with their problems.

That story recently about the Taiwan woman who killed herself on Facebook.... someone in the comments actually said, "If someone on my friend list I didn't know was posting pics of herself committing suicide I would unfriend them immediately."

Really? And that would be the end of it? He would not try to help them? He would go to bed sleeping sound that night?

What a monster.

I feel like suicidal people are in a lose-lose situation.

I'm not suicidal myself, but I've been there in the past. And I've seen others struggle.

What are your views? My mouth drops at the selfishness of people who extend a lot of energy to be MAD at the person.... and not consider even for a second the pain and confusion THEY were in. It certainly had to be pretty deep, if they really thought dying was the only way out.