I No - 5700 is not faster than 2060 Super

I No - If they would've kept the current pricing they would be DOA

I No - There is no reason for Vega owners to upgrade to Navi since they're basically the same performance wise, making Navi already a tough sell.

I No - the 5% less power is hardly an advantage seeing that it's 7nm vs nvidia's inferior node, it's still by all means a power-hog, It's still GCN no matter how much lipstick they put on that pig.

I No But alas at least there are options for mid-range.... oh wait that's how it was for the past 3 years now... AMD needs to start competing for the high-end asap, they are funneling potential customers to nvidia with each new gen even if they keep saying that the money is in the mid-range that didn't work out so well for RTG since the RX 480 was out, now that Freesync works with nvidia's line-up it's actually even harder for AMD to make a strong selling point. At the end of the day it's RTG's work at it's finest, release a card, the competition is trashing them, price cut.

Manoa hold on, I thought that AMD stated is not GCN ?!

what's going on ?

We don't know either way. Leaks are leaks (i.e. unreliable), so we really ought to wait that one out. Still, making factual statements ("is"/"isn't") based on a rumor is a bad idea.Perhaps a bit strongly worded, but the price drop is needed IMO, yes. They priced them to undercut cards that are now either cheaper or discontinued and replaced with 10% faster models.There isn't supposed to be. Vega was launched as a high-end option, this launches as a mid-range option. Equal performance for less money. No upgrade path for Vega yet, but it's coming.The 7nm advantage is definitely notable, but considering the disadvantage AMD has been at on roughly equal nodes, this is nonetheless an improvement (if the leaked numbers are true) - the improvement from 7nm isn'tbig. Also, RDNA isn't GCN. People keep parroting that, but it's completely false. There have been plenty of in-depth and detailed explanations of the low-level changes between the two, which are significant. RDNA still supports the GCN ISA, but the architecture works in significantly different ways.The difference is that there's a pretty clear scaling path going forward this time. Vega's improvements over Polaris didn't pan out for gaming (unlike compute), which is why that route stalled - they had still made Vega, a large and expensive die, and had to live with it - scaling up Polaris to 64 CUs (the GCN max) for a marginally cheaper high-end option would have cost way more than it was worth. Polaris 10/20/30 are roughly the same size as Navi 10, which is around half of Vega 10. In other words, there's plenty of room for a larger Navi die above this - and it'll no doubt be coming some place down the road. Launching a higher volume part earlier makes sense economically, even if it lacks the flagship marketing effect of an ultra-high-end option. The changes in RDNA compared to GCN should remove the 64CU max limit, so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something like an 80CU Navi part within the next year (when 7nm has become a bit cheaper and larger dies have better yields).People regurgitating misleading bullshit. RDNA is significantly changed from GCN, and is not a GCN variant. There's been plenty of in-depth public explanation of this.