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Last month, Morning Joe hit Kellyanne Conway with a pretty biting blow: The program’s two hosts, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, explained that she and her “fake news” were no longer welcome to appear on their popular MSNBC show. “She’s just saying things,” Scarborough said at the time, “just to get in front of the TV set and prove her relevance.” Weeks later, Brzezinski is now expounding a bit more on Conway and her diminishing television presence, and still maintains her view that Conway should be blacklisted on all other news programs. “I feel even more so that everyone should ban her,” Brzezinski explained to Variety. “I’m surprised that these little acrobatic games are played with her on live national television. I think it denigrates what we do. It’s clear she doesn’t bring anything to the table. It’s clear she doesn’t know exactly what she’s talking about. It’s clear she’s making it up as she goes along.”

Indeed, here’s the proof nobody can dodge an interview question like Conway:

Brzezinski implores other news programs to follow Morning Joe’s lead, even if it may seem a bit uncomfortable or detrimental to ratings at first. “Quite seriously, it’s unbelievable she has this job and what it says about this presidency that she has this job,” Brzezinski continued. “Look, it’s not the most comfortable thing to do, but it’s something you just have to. You have to say, ‘This is garbage,’ and rip up the script, and you have to cut to the chase and cut through the b.s., and she brings nothing more to the table than a lot of that.” We’re sure Trump’s real first lady will spin this into something else a little more pleasant. Maybe on Meet the Press?

