Debian Bug report logs - #765839

task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs

Reported by: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:54:07 UTC Severity: important Found in version tasksel/3.28 Fixed in version tasksel/3.29 Done: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Bug#765839 ; Package src:task-desktop . (Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:54:13 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> :

New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to unknown-package@qa.debian.org . (Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:54:13 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org> Subject: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:52:36 +0200

Source: task-desktop Version: 3.28 Severity: important Hi! By dropping gnome-fallback, Gnome3 has effectively dropped support for all architectures other than amd64 and i386 (possibly armhf on Nvidia Tegra?). Yet in current debian-installer, gnome3 is installed by default, only to show: ==================================================== Oh no! Something has gone wrong A problem has occured and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. ==================================================== with a [Log Out] button that doesn't even work. This is because Gnome3 requires specific GL rasterizers that are provided: * in hardware: Nvidia (inc. nouveau), Radeon (free and non-free), Intel drivers, but not eg. Mali proprietary * in software: llvmpipe llvmpipe is compiled only on five architectures: amd64, i386, armhf, kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386. Out of these five, kfreebsd-* don't count because systemd. In theory, Gnome3 should work with llvmpipe on armhf, but sadly, in practice it doesn't, in any setup I tried. I don't know gnome's underpinnings enough to debug this further, beyond installing it and giving it a working X11 setup. I have tried Gnome3 on: * an armhf laptop, Omega OAN133, with: * framebuffer * proprietary Mali drivers * an armhf "desktop", hardkernel Odroid U2 (also Mali) * powerpc in qemu (using an existing system on real metal, d-i on qemu) Out of other -desktop tasks, I've checked that XFCE, LXDE, KDE and Mate work, and Cinnamon does not (not surprising as it's a Gnome3 front). Proposed solutions: 1. revert to xfce by default :p 2. make task-desktop arch:any, with gnome first on amd64 and i386, and xfce (or mate...) elsewhere 3. remove the task-gnome-desktop package on !amd64 !i386

Bug reassigned from package 'src:task-desktop' to 'taks-desktop'. Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:36:10 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

No longer marked as found in versions task-desktop/3.28. Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:36:11 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Marked as found in versions 3.28. Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:36:12 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Bug reassigned from package 'taks-desktop' to 'task-desktop'. Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:45:22 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

No longer marked as found in versions 3.28. Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:45:23 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Marked as found in versions tasksel/3.28. Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:45:24 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org> :

Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:57:14 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> :

Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org> . (Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:57:14 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #22 received at 765839@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> To: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>, 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:55:48 -0400

Adam Borowski wrote: > I have tried Gnome3 on: > * an armhf laptop, Omega OAN133, with: > * framebuffer > * proprietary Mali drivers > * an armhf "desktop", hardkernel Odroid U2 (also Mali) > * powerpc in qemu > (using an existing system on real metal, d-i on qemu) What was the result of all these tests? > Proposed solutions: > > 1. revert to xfce by default :p > 2. make task-desktop arch:any, with gnome first on amd64 and i386, and xfce > (or mate...) elsewhere > 3. remove the task-gnome-desktop package on !amd64 !i386 Set a better default on a per-arch basis in default_desktop -- see shy jo

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org> :

Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:42:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> :

Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org> . (Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:42:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #27 received at 765839@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> To: 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 02:39:31 +0200

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 01:55:48PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Adam Borowski wrote: > > I have tried Gnome3 on: > > * an armhf laptop, Omega OAN133, with: > > * framebuffer > > * proprietary Mali drivers > > * an armhf "desktop", hardkernel Odroid U2 (also Mali) > > * powerpc in qemu > > (using an existing system on real metal, d-i on qemu) > > What was the result of all these tests? Everywhere the same: "Oh no! Something has gone wrong" on a white screen. Replacing gdm3 with lightdm allows logging in, which gives the same screen. Cinnamon shows a different message. I got more arms but not a single piece of hardware of other architectures. I can check more in qemu if you want, though. Meow! -- // If you believe in so-called "intellectual property", please immediately // cease using counterfeit alphabets. Instead, contact the nearest temple // of Amon, whose priests will provide you with scribal services for all // your writing needs, for Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory prices.

Reply sent to Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> :

You have taken responsibility. (Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:27:18 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Notification sent to Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> :

Bug acknowledged by developer. (Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:27:18 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #32 received at 765839-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> To: 765839-close@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#765839: fixed in tasksel 3.29 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:22:32 +0000

Source: tasksel Source-Version: 3.29 We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of tasksel, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to 765839@bugs.debian.org, and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> (supplier of updated tasksel package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:21:06 -0400 Source: tasksel Binary: tasksel tasksel-data task-desktop task-gnome-desktop task-kde-desktop task-lxde-desktop task-xfce-desktop task-cinnamon-desktop task-mate-desktop task-laptop task-web-server task-print-server task-ssh-server task-albanian-desktop task-amharic task-amharic-desktop task-amharic-kde-desktop task-arabic task-arabic-desktop task-arabic-kde-desktop task-asturian task-asturian-desktop task-basque task-basque-desktop task-basque-kde-desktop task-belarusian task-belarusian-desktop task-belarusian-kde-desktop task-bengali task-bengali-desktop task-bengali-kde-desktop 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task-welsh-desktop - Welsh desktop task-xfce-desktop - Xfce task-xhosa-desktop - Xhosa desktop task-xhosa-kde-desktop - Xhosa KDE desktop tasksel - tool for selecting tasks for installation on Debian systems tasksel-data - official tasks used for installation of Debian systems Closes: 765839 Changes: tasksel (3.29) unstable; urgency=high . * Gnome only works on i386 and amd64, so default to xfce on other arches. Closes: #765839 Thanks, Adam Borowski for testing. 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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:42:09 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> To: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>, 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:37:42 -0400

Adam Borowski wrote: > * powerpc in qemu > (using an existing system on real metal, d-i on qemu) What specific real metal did you use to test gnome on powerpc? -- see shy jo

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:27:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> To: 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 00:22:59 +0200

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 04:37:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Adam Borowski wrote: > > * powerpc in qemu > > (using an existing system on real metal, d-i on qemu) > > What specific real metal did you use to test gnome on powerpc? The parenthesis is not indented, it applies to both bullet points. I did not test armhf on qemu (as I own multiple pieces of real metal), and did not test powerpc outside qemu as I have no access to such a physical machine. Sorry if I was unclear. -- // If you believe in so-called "intellectual property", please immediately // cease using counterfeit alphabets. Instead, contact the nearest temple // of Amon, whose priests will provide you with scribal services for all // your writing needs, for Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory prices.

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Wed, 22 Oct 2014 00:18:09 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net> To: 765839@bugs.debian.org Cc: 765839-subscribe@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 02:15:58 +0200

Hey. Shouldn't one change then the default rather to something that's actually working on ALL our platforms,... and not making special exceptions for GNOME all the way (or would any other software in Debian be allowed to get that default-status, if it only supports a fraction of systems (exim for default-mta, or that like)? Or is i386/amd64 in any way special (apart from the number of its users)? I still think, there shoudln't be a default DE at all. Cheers, Chris.

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Wed, 22 Oct 2014 00:33:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> To: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>, 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 01:28:26 +0100

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 02:15:58AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: >Hey. > >Shouldn't one change then the default rather to something that's >actually working on ALL our platforms,... and not making special >exceptions for GNOME all the way (or would any other software in Debian >be allowed to get that default-status, if it only supports a fraction of >systems (exim for default-mta, or that like)? > >Or is i386/amd64 in any way special (apart from the number of its >users)? > >I still think, there shoudln't be a default DE at all. Then you have no clue about what that means. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com < sladen> I actually stayed in a hotel and arrived to find a post-it note stuck to the mini-bar saying "Paul: This fridge and fittings are the correct way around and do not need altering"

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Wed, 22 Oct 2014 00:48:08 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net> To: 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 02:45:11 +0200

On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 01:28 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Then you have no clue about what that means. What exactly do yo refer to? Not providing a default DE? I rather thought about a solution like the one the EU enforced on Microsoft with the browser selector: The interactive debian installation could just present a list of DE's that are commonly agreed to work in most cases for the current platform. E.g. majors like GNOME, KDE, LXDE, MATE, XFCE, perhaps also Cinnamon. And one could even make a sub menu like "other desktop environments" where one could select the rarer choices (bare X+twm, and so on). That lists could every time be randomised and no pre-selection being made. I'd expect that the average Debian user knows what he/she wants anyway, so I don't think we'd have a lot users who sit in front of that screen and basically don't know how to move on. And even if there would be such users, when the tasksel maintainers make a good choice of the majors list, then it shouldn't really matter what such user selects, since anything would work for him. Additionally one might even provide some additional information about each of the DEs, which may help in the selection process. And one could provide a parameter that allows a selection for batch-installation. All that would basically once and for all stop/solve any of the lengthy discussions a la "why isn't XYZ the default, ABC sucks and I hate it". And Debian wouldn't implicitly "discriminate" all the other DE's by choosing XYZ as the default. Cheers, Chris.

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Wed, 22 Oct 2014 01:45:08 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> To: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>, 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:40:24 -0400

Dude, if you thinkn that posting offtopic stuff to a bug report is the way to convince people of something, you might want to think again. -- see shy jo

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:24:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> To: 765839@bugs.debian.org Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Accepted tasksel 3.29 (source all) into unstable Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:56:21 +0200

Le mardi 21 octobre 2014 à 16:39 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > #765839 has it tested failing on multiple real-world ARM hardware > (with proprietary 3D drivers). Thanks for the pointer. It looks like this is a bug in either of cogl or the drivers themselves. Which makes me wonder: how is it that this bug was reported against tasksel? Is our first reaction in front of a bug to remove the software instead of fixing it, now? I understand your reaction and your wanting a working system after installation. Maybe this bug has an easy fix, maybe not. But could the relevant maintainers check before? > Specific information about eg, powerpc hardware that can and cannot > support it would be useful. Have the porters been put in the loop? -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' `-

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:15:10 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> To: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>, 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#765839: task-desktop: installs a non-working dekstop environment on all but 2 archs Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:03:18 +0100

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 02:45:11AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: >On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 01:28 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Then you have no clue about what that means. >What exactly do yo refer to? > >Not providing a default DE? I rather thought about a solution like the >one the EU enforced on Microsoft with the browser selector: > >The interactive debian installation could just present a list of DE's >that are commonly agreed to work in most cases for the current platform. > >E.g. majors like GNOME, KDE, LXDE, MATE, XFCE, perhaps also Cinnamon. >And one could even make a sub menu like "other desktop environments" >where one could select the rarer choices (bare X+twm, and so on). > >That lists could every time be randomised and no pre-selection being >made. So you want to make it even harder for new users to work out how/what to install with Debian. Also, do you have any idea of what a mess this would also make of our installation media? Many/most users expect us to give them a system that will work without massive sets of questions and user tuning needed. That's what the various teams involved try to achieve. Anyway, this is thoroughly OT for a bug report. (sorry, Joey). Redirecting to -devel if you feel the need to continue... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Support the Campaign for Audiovisual Free Expression: http://www.eff.org/cafe/

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Bug#765839 ; Package task-desktop . (Sat, 01 Nov 2014 02:03:09 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> To: 765839@bugs.debian.org Subject: some more data Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 03:00:27 +0100

I asked around, and: arm: Broadcom/VideoCore: not working. Adreno: unfortunately, Maarten Lankhorst (xserver-xorg-video-freedreno maintainer) says his only board just broke, and thus he's unable to test. This is sad as this driver is known to work on Fedora for at least some version of gnome -- it'd be nice to know whether it's a problem with drivers, gnome stack in Debian (cogl as Josselin suspects?) or perhaps just configuration. Other architectures: I did not get any answer. So for now there's not a single report of gnome on !amd64 !i386 working... -- // If you believe in so-called "intellectual property", please immediately // cease using counterfeit alphabets. Instead, contact the nearest temple // of Amon, whose priests will provide you with scribal services for all // your writing needs, for Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory prices.

Bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <owner@bugs.debian.org> to internal_control@bugs.debian.org . (Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:30:42 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

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