Adam Driver: Kylo Ren doesn't need redemption in The Rise of Skywalker

Star Wars: Episode IX — The Rise of Skywalker type Movie Where to watch Close Streaming Options

Don’t expect Kylo Ren’s journey in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker to follow the exact same trajectory as Anakin Skywalker.

When asked by EW if redemption was possible for the First Order’s Supreme Leader — or should even be considered given the magnitude of the character’s evil deeds — Adam Driver dismissed the idea.

“What does he have to be redeemed for?” Driver shot back.

Let’s see: Kylo killed his father, Han Solo. He hunted down the last of the Jedi and killed them off. Kylo basically killed Luke Skywalker by launching an attack that required the Jedi Master to drain his life force holding him off. He destroyed several entire planets with Starkiller Base. And just generally, Kylo’s been a rather humorless emo leader of a fascist movement.

But as an actor, Driver sees things more from his character’s perspective.

“[Kylo Ren] has a different identity, a different definition of what redemption is,” Driver says. “He’s already been redeemed in his story. I don’t think there is a thought of redemption. He doesn’t have an outside lens of the events, you know — you know what I mean? That’s more of an outsider’s view of his world.”

Image zoom © 2019 Lucasfilm Ltd.

In the final Skywalker Saga film, Kylo’s journey leads him to an epic clash with Rey (Daisy Ridley) on the ruins of the second Death Star, as well as seemingly teaming up with the Jedi-in-training for some other purpose.

Abrams sees the duo as “two sides of the same coin,” noting, “even when they’re not together they still haunt each other in a way — they know they are each other’s unresolved business.”

For his part, Driver rejects any labels for the Rey-Kylo relationship. “I don’t think it’s all one thing,” he says. “Part of the fun of playing it is the boundaries of it keep changing. At times it’s more intimate, sometimes less intimate. Sometimes it’s codependent. And then it’s, obviously, adversarial.”

The Rise of Skywalker opens Dec. 20.

Related content:

Episode Recaps Previous Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker premiere red carpet photos By James Hibberd

'A long time ago': A Star Wars timeline By Alyssa Smith

The droids of the Star Wars universe, ranked By Devan Coggan

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker reveals 8 new photos By James Hibberd

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker deep-dive final trailer breakdown By James Hibberd

Triple Force Friday reveals 11 new Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker toys By James Hibberd

New Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker footage decoded: Does Rey take a turn to the Dark Side? By Nick Romano

Decoding the first teaser for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker By Anthony Breznican

EW's Guide to Star Wars Celebration 2019 By Anthony Breznican

Here are all the Star Wars projects coming in 2019 By Anthony Breznican Next