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Hero MemberActivity: 686Merit: 521 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 07:49:52 AM #141 I do not think they would what to go that route considering the advancement of new technologies and the Internet being at the centre of almost everything from the banking sector, space exploration, scientific research and the alike...but if our Governments were to shut down the Internet that would render our cryptocurrencies useless.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 278Merit: 250ABISprotocol on Gist Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 07:56:28 AM #142 Quote from: Ucy on June 25, 2017, 06:45:26 PM

Pls I need to know something, Is it possible to exchange Bitcoin with other people without being connected to the Internet?

Let say the government bans the Internet and you have your Bitcoin offline(in cold storage right?), can you exchange the Bitcoin to the next person by simply transferring some Bitcoin from cold storage to his/her computer, phone or even data storage devices(like SD Card, USB, Hard drive etc)?





TL;DR: Yes.



See, for example, some discussion of the offline transmission of wood and paper token concept at



https://thecryptosphere.com/2015/05/19/rebuilding-communities-and-identities-with-usb-sticks-and-love-by-anonyodinn/



People tend to forget that NFC capacity is built right into bitcoin so that makes it easy to scan and do all sorts of things with, without actually having to have a full "online" system completely operational. There have been whole discussions about transacting without confirmations and consensus (to a certain degree, in other words without a great many people available to do so until a network is developed or recovers) and YES IT IS POSSIBLE, I don't want to have this conversation all over again. So I won't even go there. Will not beat a dead horse.



See the total offline setup with minimal hardware requirements (though you'd also need to add some small solar panels and ideally a small battery bank - you can buy all this solar energy stuff you need in REI sporting goods store nowadays)



http://betteroffbitcoin.com/a-protocol-for-offline-bitcoin-over-radio-transactions/



Note that you will need to have this set up (with written instructions on paper) before a major event hits such as a power outage / natural disaster / war problem. But yes. It is absolutely possible and not only that, people are doing it.



Also, it's possible to broadcast bitcoin txs over television (which doesn't require internet and doesn't require MURS radio setup... but if the power goes out regionally so does the TV.



However, I should point out that it's possible to do it via TV, anyway, which doesn't rely upon internet. It's also already been done so it's not just a hypothetical as in "what if we could." Since it has already been done in (a couple) countries, I've suggested that it also be tried in China as an anti-censorship mechanism.



They will never get rid of their TV, so.... you know, ride the wave. TL;DR: Yes.See, for example, some discussion of the offline transmission of wood and paper token concept atPeople tend to forget that NFC capacity is built right into bitcoin so that makes it easy to scan and do all sorts of things with, without actually having to have a full "online" system completely operational. There have been whole discussions about transacting without confirmations and consensus (to a certain degree, in other words without a great many people available to do so until a network is developed or recovers) and YES IT IS POSSIBLE, I don't want to have this conversation all over again. So I won't even go there. Will not beat a dead horse.See the total offline setup with minimal hardware requirements (though you'd also need to add some small solar panels and ideally a small battery bank - you can buy all this solar energy stuff you need in REI sporting goods store nowadays)Note that you will need to have this set up (with written instructions on paper) before a major event hits such as a power outage / natural disaster / war problem. But yes. It is absolutely possible and not only that, people are doing it.Also, it's possible to broadcast bitcoin txs over television (which doesn't require internet and doesn't require MURS radio setup... but if the power goes out regionally so does the TV.However, I should point out that it's possible to do it via TV, anyway, which doesn't rely upon internet. It's also already been done so it's not just a hypothetical as in "what if we could." Since it has already been done in (a couple) countries, I've suggested that it also be tried in China as an anti-censorship mechanism.They will never get rid of their TV, so.... you know, ride the wave.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 1092Merit: 264 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 08:50:19 AM #144 If governments will shutdown the internet then bitcoin will die because bitcoin can only be found in the internet so if the internet will be shutdown by the governments then there is no sense of having bitcoin so i think it is better to just hold the 50% of our bitcoin and exchange the rest in cash so we can avoid getting stuck to this worst case scenario.

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NewbieActivity: 2Merit: 0 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 08:54:14 AM #145 As far as all internet goes, no one ever blocks the WHOLE internet. Some countries can but again, Internet is not the only network in the world. Besides that, you have peer-to-peer transactions so if government want to look at all traffic (including encrypted) they would need to install enormous scrapers on data-centers

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NewbieActivity: 2Merit: 0 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 09:45:38 AM #148 If governments shut down the internet, I don't know what I am going to do with them. Many people will complain about this. A lot of businesses rely on the internet, remittances transaction, online shop. Internet shut off together with their business. The government will also shut down because some big companies paying their taxes and that taxes is one of their source of income.

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Hero MemberActivity: 518Merit: 500 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 10:04:22 AM #149 Well, the use of internet is considered a right already, so if the government shuts down the internet, it is already a violation of our basic human right. And I dont think it will be to the best interest of the government to disable the internet as most of their services rely on internet as well. That would just be counter productive and would just create an uproar among the citizens.

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NewbieActivity: 42Merit: 0 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 11:52:27 AM #150 The government doesn't own their switches and routers that they could just "power off" to stop the Internet. Definitely, they are having their own organization, but this will not destroy the Internet. I don't think so that the Internet can be "shut down" by someone because the internet includes the huge amount of data and info as well as the huge figure of companies (ISPs) involved.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 952Merit: 267 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 11:59:14 AM #151 I dont think any government want to "KILL" own economy by stop using internet for all country person. But yes, in any critical situation any government can stop internet. Many times we find that government stop internet is some specific areas at the time of " big RIOTS"

And using bitcoin without internet,Physical Bitcoin is not good idea, you can't buy anything from foreign countries because of it increase fees / transaction fee/

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Sr. MemberActivity: 476Merit: 250 Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? June 30, 2017, 12:49:39 PM #154 It will never gonna happen, if the government shutdown the internet, the world will have chaos. A lot of people will protest about it, especially business man. Their money are save on the internet, their bitcoins and a lot of cryptocurrency owners will get mad by the government.



Imagine a world without internet, all things will get back tge way it was. The world will be simple but slower than today. Everyone needs the internet nowadays, they cannot shut it down, or else the people will shut them down.