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Michael Wolff’s expose of the Trump White House, “Fire and Fury,” is still being debated. How much of it is true? How much of it is made up? Are the stories in it tinged with just enough reality to make it hard to ignore?

But at least one part of the book is not a matter of dispute, at least according to media executive Janice Min. The now-famous dinner scene between the late Roger Ailes, former head of Fox News, Steve Bannon, the former chief strategist to President Trump, and Wolff himself is entirely accurate according to Min, who was there.

But she offered a much more detailed account at the Code Media conference in Huntington Beach, Calif., where she described how the dinner happened and who said what.

Was it fun?

“‘Fun,’ is maybe one of the words?” she started. “I certainly dined out on it since then.”

Min, who had commissioned a column from Wolff when she was the editor of the Hollywood Reporter, had been invited to his house for dinner in New York. Ailes, who had just been pushed out of Fox News, showed up in a wheelchair with his wife, and Bannon showed up three hours late.

The whole exchange is fascinating and worth watching in full:

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