Rekrul Profile Blog Joined November 2002 Korea (South) 17172 Posts Last Edited: 2009-02-23 02:57:36 #1 I'm very confident. Korean Zerg strategies are ahead of foreign Zergs by about 1-2 years, and foreign ZvT also develops very slowly. I think TvZ is my strongest matchup. I predict I will go 6-1 or 5-2; there are a few maps that are very suited to early rushes, very suitable to his [F91’s] style, so I might lose two games.



And what happens? Idra loses 2-5. The white hope of the modern day and age losing to some random zerg player from China. If you can't beat him how are you supposed to beat progamers? I mean seriously the only games you won were games on two maps, Colosseum and Destination, maps that you've been practicing on 13 hours a day in the CJ Pro-team house with Koreans. Of course those are locks but the other five? Why did you lose Idra?



Well, luckily IdrA decided to tell us!



And what happens? Idra loses 2-5. The white hope of the modern day and age losing to some random zerg player from China. If you can't beat him how are you supposed to beat progamers? I mean seriously the only games you won were games on two maps, Colosseum and Destination, maps that you've been practicing on 13 hours a day in the CJ Pro-team house with Koreans. Of course those are locks but the other five? Why did you lose Idra?Well, luckily IdrA decided to tell us! why are you pretending you know anything about starcraft? raid assault is covered in narrow passages and high grounds and has a very short rush distance through the center, as well as high ground immediately outside the natural. it also has a total of 2 gas expos outside the mains and naturals, both of which are near impossible to defend vs drops. as such if zerg lets terran get into the mid/long game in good shape, they are going to lose. with 3 hatch the only real option is a 3 hat lurk ling allin to try to abuse the back way, thats quite risky in itself but he wasnt even going 3 hat lair. however, the natural and main are very far apart, there is a cliff over the natural, and the main's min line is backed up against water. this makes 2 hat muta exceptionally good. this means that an intelligent zerg will go 2 hatch, my build was designed to take advantage of that and so lost because he went 3 hatch. going 3 hatch is utterly retarded for the reasons i just explained so yes i did lose because he did something dumb.



HEY MY OPPONENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND I KNEW HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT SO I DID EXACTLY WHAT BEATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO BUT HE'S DUMB AND DIDN'T DO WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO COUNTER EASILY.



No Idra, he did what won. If he was dumb he would have done exactly what you wanted him to do...lol. After all this time in Korea you've only learned standard builds and haven't even opened your mind up at all? Makes sense I guess before you went to Korea you did the exact same builds every game in whatever matchup you were playing. You are playing against a Chinese random zerg kid not some CJ-house-team-B practice partner who does the same build against you every game. Get a grip, you weren't aware of what was going on that game and took your situation for granted, and you lost. You lost because you were fucking dumb.



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HEY MY OPPONENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND I KNEW HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT SO I DID EXACTLY WHAT BEATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO BUT HE'S DUMB AND DIDN'T DO WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO COUNTER EASILY.No Idra, he did what won. If he was dumb he would have done exactly what you wanted him to do...lol. After all this time in Korea you've only learned standard builds and haven't even opened your mind up at all? Makes sense I guess before you went to Korea you did the exact same builds every game in whatever matchup you were playing. You are playing against a Chinese random zerg kid not some CJ-house-team-B practice partner who does the same build against you every game. Get a grip, you weren't aware of what was going on that game and took your situation for granted, and you lost. You lost because you were fucking dumb.more: kinda already talked about this too. i scanned the lurker opening on andro and as he is an allin player and he did a lurker allin the game before i assumed he would do it again and built bunkers and a quick dropship. delayed my barracks and my vessel. instead of allining he powered, added more hatches, and went hive (and delayed his lurkers doing so). no amount of micro or game sense or scanning or whatever bullshit you're babbling about can save any terran from that point.



That's the point kid. Micro, scanning, and especially game sense wouldn't save any terran from that point. But any terran with micro, scanning, and game sense wouldn't have gotten into that situation anyways because they wouldn't be thinking like such a linear brained retarded fucking frankenstein and would assume that more is possible than what they think their opponent will probably do. No good terran would get in that situation. Do you think any korean progamer would lose to F91 in a series? LMAO.



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That's the point kid. Micro, scanning, and especiallywouldn't save any terran from that point. But any terran with micro, scanning, and game sense wouldn't have gotten into that situation anyways because they wouldn't be thinking like such a linear brained retarded fucking frankenstein and would assume that more is possible than what they think their opponent willdo. No good terran would get in that situation. Do you think any korean progamer would lose to F91 in a series? LMAO.Wait a second you said: i scanned the lurker opening on andro and as he is an allin player and he did a lurker allin the game before i assumed he would do it again



So he's an "ALLIN PLAYER" but he didn't do allin? Wait that doesn't even make sense. If he's an all-in player wouldn't he go all-in every game? That's the point of going all-in and having game sense. If you play the same way every game (LIKE YOU LOL) then you will be very predictable and people can easily take optimal openings vs. you. If you mix it up on the other hand you gain an edge because you're not predictable. Looks to me like he figured you'd just assume he's all-in'ing again and he'd exploit the fact that you're a dumb goon and do what crushes the terran counter to zerg-allin. Oh wait, thats what he did! You got played buddy. You got outsmarted. YOU sucked.



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So he's an "" but he didn't do allin? Wait that doesn't even make sense. If he's an all-in player wouldn't he go all-in every game? That's the point of going all-in and having game sense. If you play the same way every game (LIKE YOU LOL) then you will be very predictable and people can easily take optimal openings vs. you. If you mix it up on the other hand you gain an edge because you're not predictable. Looks to me like he figured you'd just assume he's all-in'ing again and he'd exploit the fact that you're a dumb goon and do what crushes the terran counter to zerg-allin. Oh wait, thats what he did! You got played buddy. You got outsmarted. YOU sucked.more: i said before i lost on chupung because it didnt look like an allin, he waited longer than usual for some reason and so my tanks were out of place. also i made 2 bunkers. 3 is the failsafe vs an allin. doesnt change the fact that it was an allin, just like taking a fast 3rd on tau was risky. my point is he won because he took risks and they paid off. congrats to him, but people trying to use the games to comment on skill are clueless.



Now he's really fucking with your head lmao. This game he does a build that will make you think all-in then delays it a bit to make you think he was just fucking with you again then he all-ins anyways a bit later. Hahahahaha he totally just leveled the fuck out of you. F91 is a fucking genius. U blow.



Now he's really fucking with your head lmao. This game he does a build that will make you think all-in then delays it a bit to make you think he was just fucking with you again then he all-ins anyways a bit later. Hahahahaha he totally just leveled the fuck out of you. F91 is a fucking genius. U blow. [b]congrats to him, but people trying to use the games to comment on skill are clueless.



LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. What the fuck is skill then IdrA? Playing 13 hours a day raping B-team newb zergs all day who do the same fucking builds then going to the team bathroom with your laptop and jerking off to replays of yourself on the scummy progamer sperm encrusted toilet seat? OH MAN MY M&M RUSH TIMING IS SO SICK JUST LIKE MY JERK-OFF TIMING 14.8 SECONDS THEY'LL NEVER THINK I WAS BEATING OFF IN HERE O FUCK I GOT SOME ON MY SHIRT K GOTTA TAKE A SHOWER IN THIS PROGAMER PUBE CLOGGED BATHTUB SO I CAN COME OUT OF THE SHOWER WITH MY SHIRT OFF IN JUST MY TOWEL AND PUT IT IN THE HAMPER AND GET FRESH CLOTHES SO THEY DONT KNOW I JUST GOT PROGAMER SPERM ALL OVER MY CJ SHIRT CUZ I WEAR IT EVERY DAY IN 14.8 SECONDS DUE TO SICK TERRAN STIM PACK MASTERBATION APM.



Skill is what wins games. Period. Luck is part of starcraft. Maybe if you took risks and tried to exploit that fact sometimes you could actually win games.



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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. What the fuck is skill then IdrA? Playing 13 hours a day raping B-team newb zergs all day who do the same fucking builds then going to the team bathroom with your laptop and jerking off to replays of yourself on the scummy progamer sperm encrusted toilet seat? OH MAN MY M&M RUSH TIMING IS SO SICK JUST LIKE MY JERK-OFF TIMING 14.8 SECONDS THEY'LL NEVER THINK I WAS BEATING OFF IN HERE O FUCK I GOT SOME ON MY SHIRT K GOTTA TAKE A SHOWER IN THIS PROGAMER PUBE CLOGGED BATHTUB SO I CAN COME OUT OF THE SHOWER WITH MY SHIRT OFF IN JUST MY TOWEL AND PUT IT IN THE HAMPER AND GET FRESH CLOTHES SO THEY DONT KNOW I JUST GOT PROGAMER SPERM ALL OVER MY CJ SHIRT CUZ I WEAR IT EVERY DAY IN 14.8 SECONDS DUE TO SICK TERRAN STIM PACK MASTERBATION APM.Skill is what wins games. Period. Luck is part of starcraft. Maybe if you took risks and tried to exploit that fact sometimes you could actually win games.more:

boxer was a cheesy player with no mechanics.... in 2002... when no one had mechanics. before he went to the army his macro, though not the best in korea, was more than adequate and his micro was still among the best, on top of his creativity. and he was creative. sure he did run of the mill cheeses, but he also came up with shit no one else would do.



f91 fails on both those counts. he is not mechanically clean, at all. hell the andro game he banked like 3k/3k off of 3 gas. maybe he was saving for ultras, but i think he put up his ultra den after his money started climbing out of control (kinda has to have actually, you dont hit 3k/3k in the build time of an ultra den). [b]and he is not clever. he simply hopes you dont guess or read which way hes gonna go. opening lurker and hoping your opponent doesnt guess properly if you're gonna attack or not is not a 'crazy rush' or a brilliant strategy. it is a coinflip.



How does someone training with the CJ team get tricked by a dumb chinese zerg player who isn't clever and simply hopes? I mean seriously LOL he mind fucked you and you still can't even realize it after the fact. Ignorance isn't bliss. Ignorance will keep you in the CJ team B-house and off TV for another year until you finally realize it's time to pack your bags and get the fuck out.



All I'm asking of you, Idra, is to show some respect. Show some respect to the community, your team, the opponent that just raped you, and most importantly yourself by just frankly admitting to the fact that he outplayed you in the series and raped you straight up. No one is judging you saying F91 >>> you. F91 certainly was >>>> you that day and it was not due to luck. It was because he raped you. No one gives a fuck whos better between you and F91. You both fucking blow as far as anyone is concerned so don't worry about that.



I mean though I completely understand why Idra does what he does. Imagine a young lil nerd in USA in college playing BW all day with no life. Finally the chance of a lifetime: PROGAMING IN KOREA! Then he gets to Korea and after months on the team even the b-team practice newbies don't even want to play against him because he's so bad and its wasting their time to play him. Fine he was able to put that all behind him though because Estro managed to convince CJ to take him (CJ is more structured and strict so this wouldn't happen there). All the hype just got even bigger. The expectations rose from all his foreign fans. Then what happens? A year goes by and the only public game he's played in Korea was a prelim game where he got utterly raped by JulyZerg because even though his build was good, his execution against JulyZerg was just really bad. THEN another foreigner comes to Korea for a while and steals all his spotlight (which he was failing to live up to anyways). Now he's just been in a lull and we've heard nothing from him really for a while and finally he gets a show match against a chinese newbie where he can have some fun and win a little money in the process. Especially in his best matchup! Oh no I got raped 2-5 because I played like an idiot with no game sense!!! Fuck now everyones going to think I'm horrible NO I MUST DEFEND MYSELF I AM ESTROCJIDRAINKOREA I AM THE BEST FOREIGNER HE GOT PURELY LUCKY IF I PLAYED HIM 100 TIMES I WOULD WIN MORE THAN 50 FOR SURE I AM BETTER THAN HIM!!!!!!!!!! He's just insecure and it's rough on him that he's got all this foreign pressure to succeed and he's not living up to it at all.



Instead of acting like an insecure little faggot by continuing to throw out stupid posts about 'why you lost' just say GG well played and move on with your life. Even when I was in Korea and breakdown raped me I admitted the truth: that I played horribly. Sure I could have done better but I did play horrible and I did lose straight up. I admitted that fact and moved on with my life and didn't sit around trying to blame my opponent's stupidity for why I lost. I mean seriously how can you blame your opponents stupidity for why you lost that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard LOL. Thats like doing a big-time drug sale where the agreement is 'bring no weapons' then you show up there unarmed and get robbed. How fucking stupid can YOU be. If you wasted less time making excuses and put that time into improving as a player and figuring out how you could have won given the dire circumstances that F91's brilliance put you in maybe people wouldn't hate you so much.



Be happy you're still living a dream that so many foreigners would love to experience. You're on a pro-team in Korea have your mind numbing practice hours made you forget that? So what you have no talent in SC at all? So what you haven't had any success? Maye you should try some new things everyone is good at something. There's more to life than one little show match you should have just had fun with it and acted in a respectful manner after you got butt-fucked. Stop acting like a bitter litte nerd, leave that to Artosis when he's losing to DT drops on ICCUP. How does someone training with the CJ team get tricked by a dumb chinese zerg player who isn't clever and simply hopes? I mean seriously LOL he mind fucked you and you still can't even realize it after the fact. Ignorance isn't bliss. Ignorance will keep you in the CJ team B-house and off TV for another year until you finally realize it's time to pack your bags and get the fuck out.All I'm asking of you, Idra, is to show some respect. Show some respect to the community, your team, the opponent that just raped you, and most importantly yourself by just frankly admitting to the fact that he outplayed you in the series and raped you straight up. No one is judging you saying F91 >>> you. F91 certainly was >>>> you that day and it was not due to luck. It was because he raped you. No one gives a fuck whos better between you and F91. You both fucking blow as far as anyone is concerned so don't worry about that.I mean though I completely understand why Idra does what he does. Imagine a young lil nerd in USA in college playing BW all day with no life. Finally the chance of a lifetime: PROGAMING IN KOREA! Then he gets to Korea and after months on the team even the b-team practice newbies don't even want to play against him because he's so bad and its wasting their time to play him. Fine he was able to put that all behind him though because Estro managed to convince CJ to take him (CJ is more structured and strict so this wouldn't happen there). All the hype just got even bigger. The expectations rose from all his foreign fans. Then what happens? A year goes by and the only public game he's played in Korea was a prelim game where he got utterly raped by JulyZerg because even though his build was good, his execution against JulyZerg was just really bad. THEN another foreigner comes to Korea for a while and steals all his spotlight (which he was failing to live up to anyways). Now he's just been in a lull and we've heard nothing from him really for a while and finally he gets a show match against a chinese newbie where he can have some fun and win a little money in the process. Especially in his best matchup! Oh no I got raped 2-5 because I played like an idiot with no game sense!!! Fuck now everyones going to think I'm horrible NO I MUST DEFEND MYSELF I AM ESTROCJIDRAINKOREA I AM THE BEST FOREIGNER HE GOT PURELY LUCKY IF I PLAYED HIM 100 TIMES I WOULD WIN MORE THAN 50 FOR SURE I AM BETTER THAN HIM!!!!!!!!!! He's just insecure and it's rough on him that he's got all this foreign pressure to succeed and he's not living up to it at all.Instead of acting like an insecure little faggot by continuing to throw out stupid posts about 'why you lost' just say GG well played and move on with your life. Even when I was in Korea and breakdown raped me I admitted the truth: that I played horribly. Sure I could have done better but I did play horrible and I did lose straight up. I admitted that fact and moved on with my life and didn't sit around trying to blame my opponent's stupidity for why I lost. I mean seriously how can you blame your opponents stupidity for why you lost that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard LOL. Thats like doing a big-time drug sale where the agreement is 'bring no weapons' then you show up there unarmed and get robbed. How fucking stupid can YOU be. If you wasted less time making excuses and put that time into improving as a player and figuring out how you could have won given the dire circumstances that F91's brilliance put you in maybe people wouldn't hate you so much.Be happy you're still living a dream that so many foreigners would love to experience. You're on a pro-team in Korea have your mind numbing practice hours made you forget that? So what you have no talent in SC at all? So what you haven't had any success? Maye you should try some new things everyone is good at something. There's more to life than one little show match you should have just had fun with it and acted in a respectful manner after you got butt-fucked. Stop acting like a bitter litte nerd, leave that to Artosis when he's losing to DT drops on ICCUP. why so 진지해?