That the networks should stop carrying them alive. This is not the same thing as not covering them. There is information in them that is useful and a public service. It’s just not the majority of what is said and very little of it actually comes from the president who seems to have viewed these as his best way to recapture the glory of his political rallies. So some people agree. Some people disagree. The kind of most obvious complaints you get from the oh he supported why shouldn’t they run his it’s not a popularity contest. This is not because he’s not popular or because of issues with his policies in general in the middle of a pandemic where it is a question of life and death. The fact that he has pretty much well documented history of making things up downplaying problems putting out false information is more of a problem than it is when he’s just holding forth on something that is a little bit less serious. You know I also got a response along the lines of you know people complained well here’s one I’m not a fan of his performance. That comes from story some but Murthy says I’m not a fan of his performance but I remember everyone criticizing him for not giving formal press conferences before the virus. But now the opposite seems to be the problem. Basically he said so make up your mind. So my mind is made up my dream and it is I admit still pretty much a pipe dream is that he will give live press briefings that aren’t fundamentally dangerous to the public. So again the fact that he kind of ducked tough questions during non pandemic times was frustrating the fact that he is now using these briefings to promote misinformation is equally frustrating if not more so. Let’s see the so-called briefings are nothing more. This is from Edward Walker than a replacement for the rallies. I’m going to like shorten this one a little bit. It was always meant for solving self and grandiose aggrandizement and to entertain his base. He has co-opted a vehicle for informing and bringing together the nation for his own sick twisted attention seeking needs. That was actually the response I got from a fair number of people who I support and admire your willingness to sit through this to watch a briefing. Presumably you could have other things that you would be doing so it’s admirable that you’re suffering through these but it does. It does seem to be that a lot of the information that the experts there the people talking about hard data and offering public service information and safety tips and things like that would be better pulled from the briefings and promoted than having to sit through an hour or two hours of a lot of misinformation or just rambling about random stuff and kind of mini campaign mini campaign commercials sorts of discussions. So anybody who has sat through these and has parts of them that have struck you or who has kind of thoughts on why it’s important that we see this rolling along. Feel free to hit me with this. I’m always interested in how people are viewing these things. The opinions run the gamut. For those of those of you who have just tuned in a reminder that times opinion section is doing live chats at 1 o’clock every day. I’m Michelle Cottle. I’m a member of the editorial board and I tend to focus on national politics although these days, everything is through the lens of the virus. But I am far from the only person doing these. Tomorrow you will get my fantastic colleague from El Bulli. I think Kara Swisher is back on Wednesday, followed by Jennifer Finney Boylan and then Farhad Manjoo is on Friday. So go ahead and get your questions ready for them as well. They will talk about whatever you want and I think somebody last week was going into how to make your own face mask. Now I do not have these fantastic survival virus skills. I just you know it’s bandanna time when I have to go to the CDC to pick up meds or whatever. Here are some people signing in. Can you publish more and often on how to make sure we can all vote during the pandemic. So it is funny that you should bring this up because one of the things that the edit board is obsessed about it has become kind of one of our pet issues is mail in voting. I think we saw in Wisconsin that the risks involved in trying to do voting in-person during the middle of a pandemic. This should be of concern to both sides. This is not a question of one side’s voters are more at risk than the other. It is something that both sides should be incredibly concerned about. Now there are a couple of Republican politicians have made noises about that kind of fall into the category of lower turnout is good for their party. This includes President Trump who got on Twitter and made quite the fuss about how Republicans nationwide should fight against mail in voting because it doesn’t work out well for Republicans and he has been pitching the idea that it is fundamentally corrupt. Now This is nonsense. There have been plenty of people to fact check this and pieces have been run about just exactly what kind of nonsense this is. But it is something that a lot of the governors are looking at trying to increase access trying to increase opportunities for absentee voting not necessarily as your only choice. People who want to go to the polls would still be able to but we have no idea how long this mess is going to last. So even in November it could really be a question of even another spike it could be that things clear up for a few months and then spike again. So a lot of states are looking into kind of how to ensure that mail in voting will be accessible by then and it takes planning in advance. It’s not something that you can just snap your fingers and do that. So somebody else had in here. Why doesn’t the times or why don’t media outlets send their science reporters to these briefings. One of the issues that is a good question. I mean, part of it is there is a White House press corps and that is who has access to the White House Briefing Room.” There are protocols that they go through they have White House hard passes they are the ones who are kind of in a position to go to the White House. They also have like these formal pool rotations especially when there are times when not all reporters can be at an event they have official pool rotations with people who have been clear they have the proper credentials the proper security clearance to go in to these situations. So that’s who winds up at these briefings a lot. But the science reporters are out there talking science with the people who are leading the charge on a lot of this. Incidentally I don’t. The times and I think the Washington Post and a fair number of other outlets are not sending reporters to these daily briefings because they don’t produce enough actual news to justify the risk that it runs for the reporters health. So the times is no longer live streaming these briefings unless they’ve changed recently. But I don’t think so. The out c-span always runs them. So you always have access to them. There is no question of censorship. There is no question of interpreting things in a way that is unflattering to one side or the other of any discussion. The president’s words are always available on c-span but a lot of outlets have stopped sending reporters or stopped showing all of the briefings because they’re not that informative in terms of like scientific data or what’s happening. Somebody else is saying fact check live as he lies instantly. Some outlets do that. The problem with that is he lies a lot or misspeaks a lot however you want to look at it and it is really hard to keep up with Twitter run you know a lot of outlets will have it run on Twitter or they’ll run it Kyra on along the bottom of the screen. But it takes a little bit of time sometimes to fact check what’s being said. That also is kind of an ironclad rule on these sorts of things. The fact check almost never gets as much attention as the original misstatement. So it’s hard. Some people have complained that well why can’t you just run Trump’s feet and let people decide for themselves, which is basically what happens a lot. But again you’re talking about a mass audience you’re not talking about an audience of incredibly scientifically savvy or even research savvy public. So I’m not sure you want to get into a situation where in order to know if the advice they’re being given or the information they’re being given is true or accurate. People have to immediately spend two more hours online looking up what they’ve been told by the President of the United States via media outlets. That just seems like a recipe for disaster. It also just kind of leaves a huge chunk of the population you know kind of floundering in misinformation. So you know I take all of these points you know you can say, well, if people don’t bother to check it out why should we care. But you know you kind of do. I mean it’s I’ve heard the partisan version of that too which is well if Trump’s voters want to believe his nonsense then forget them. Well, you can say that in some instances but that’s a matter of life and death at this point is somebody saying wow you’re saying the public isn’t smart enough to watch it. No it’s not what I’m saying at all. It’s not in any way. What I’m saying. What I’m saying is when the president who has information and access to information that the general public generally won’t know is saying it as though it is the truth. It really shouldn’t be incumbent upon the public to then have to fact check everything out of his mouth. That’s kind of ridiculous. So what I’m saying is that that is a problem when you’ve reached the point where everything that comes out of a person’s mouth is suspect until you’ve checked it yourself. You know that’s that’s not a recipe for it’s not public service. It’s incredibly dangerous. So as far as other things that are going on if anybody has any sort of kind of sense of what they’re looking forward to in the coming days. I mean it’s been really hard for a lot of people being holed up in the house. And people have been suggesting ways to kind of get through this. Oh and someone is on here, suggesting that I’m incredibly biased is important to note that I am not a straight news reporter. I’m an opinion journalist. I am paid to have opinions, not based on partisan affiliation. But that does not mean that I assume everything is of equal value. So yes when I have collected with my own eyes and ears enough evidence from these briefings that they are completely inaccurate and not to be trusted without massive fact checking in context then yes I do for my own opinion. If you want to talk to the news side I think the news sides probably do and stuff as well. But it is important to note the difference between a straight news journalist and an opinion news journalist. Somebody is asking don’t you think Trump beat the media to reveal their biases. Again you’re talking to the wrong person. I’m not a straight news journalist. I have biases they are not partisan biases. I have plenty of excellent sources on both sides of the political aisle. There’s just not an issue for me. But I also am not paid to just kind of tell you what the president said that day without some sort of context. That’s the wrong department. There’s a huge wall between the opinion department and the news department. So like Maggie Haberman mark mazzetti all the news guys. That’s completely different. We even have separate when we have an office and we can go into an office we even have separate sections of the office in the Washington bureau. So that is important to keep in mind. Now somebody was laughing about the Beatles behind me. I am a fine Beatles fan but yes my 16-year-old son is a crazy Beatles fan. He want to see Paul McCartney when he was touring last year. And so there is a whole lot in fact, there’s a whole lot of Beatles music in the house of late because my son plays the guitar and the keyboards and stuff. So at this point despite not being a huge Beatles fan and I know you’re going to slag me for that I don’t mind it. I now know most of the Beatles discography by heart or whatever and a whole lot of Beatles trivia. So can you talk about layoffs in the media as a result of the pandemic. I can. And it makes me very, very sad because the people getting hit the absolute hardest are the. And I mentioned this I think last time we were on here are the local media outlets which are so so valuable to keep people informed about what’s going on in their community. They keep an eye on state governments. And if you think Congress is crazy some of these state legislatures is just like the Wild West and you just kind of they need a little bit of oversight. They need watchdogs. It’s such an important part of keeping the public informed. And these are the very places that can’t really afford to have the economy shut down and advertising frees up for a little bit because they don’t operate with it. I mean, they’re already struggling in good times and they can’t afford to have a gap because they operate on smaller margins. So there have been a lot of layoffs in local media which was already just a disaster. So let me just take this as a moment to give you a plea to support your local media. You know obviously we love the times loves its readers and loves people who tune in for stuff. But we also know that you know from Florida to Wisconsin to Wyoming to Ohio it’s the local outlets do a lot of good work that just won’t can’t be replicated at the national level. So thank you in India to somebody writes the media is facing a bloodbath. My guess is this. This is happening globally. I mean that the really startling saying is that the things we’re dealing with here are kind of being replicated everywhere else. I mean we were looking at numbers and it’s 90% of students worldwide have somehow already had their school either canceled or postponed or whether the or shut down for this. That’s an amazing number, just the idea of all of the educational loss that’s going to happen just from the. Just from the months that we’ve been dealing with this so far in wealthy countries will I you know obviously have different problems than some of the more struggling ones. But even here in the US it’s just like the difference between what kids who have internet access and computers at home versus kids who don’t you’re already starting to see a lot of gaps appear in terms of what these kids are able to access. I mean I have friends who stood in line for hours to get their kids a borrowed Chromebook and they’re now trying to maneuver these very complicated systems. So these are all things that we’re going to be dealing with going forward and trying to figure out how to help kids catch up. OK I want to take this opportunity just one more time to say I’m Michelle Cottle I am the national political writer for the editorial board. Of course, these days everybody’s beat has been kind of put through the lens of the coronavirus. The times will be doing this series every day 1 o’clock. Tune in as noted tomorrow. It will be my colleague Jameel Buoy who will have many exciting things to tell you I’m sure Wednesday. Kara Swisher who is always, always got something that you really need to know Thursday is Jennifer Finney Boylan and Friday is Farhad Manjoo. All of these people will be here to answer not just questions about what they specialize in but also kind of how everybody’s doing and trying to survive all of this. Somebody has asked here why has China suppressed much data. I am not the board’s foreign policy guru so I don’t want to get too deep into the weeds of China but I think the basics are you know China keeps a tight lid. The government is not a transparent government. And it was very slow in the early going to be upfront about what’s happening. And I think you see the situation. Similarly now. It doesn’t really want people to know what’s going on in there. Somebody here is get them back in school. This so-called pandemic is fake orchestrated to take down our press. I’m just going to let that one go. I’m not in the mood for trolling today. If you still think this pandemic is a hoax. I got some phone numbers for the White House. You can call and sympathize with some of the folks there. I’m not going to address those here. Thanks though. So let’s see what else we got coming in here. I hope people are exercising and eating healthy. The flu comes around every year so take care. So those are two different things. But the first part of that is actually really important. And I don’t know how certain areas are balancing it yet. One of the things that they’re trying to decide between is how much to let people or how much to encourage people to go outside even during the lockdowns. Because if you stay in your house all day number one you’re going to go crazy. The odds if you’re like chopping your family and the hogs go straight through the roof. It’s a little bit like Jack Nicholson in the shining. It’s my house. Very quickly starts to feel like the overlook hotel. It’s cabin fever. It’s not pretty. But at the same time it’s also really good for your health and your immune system. If we’ve learned anything in the last several years it’s how much regular exercise keeps you healthy. So if you can get outside safely with whatever social distancing measures are in place in your area and walk bike whatever is allowed is going to make you feel better and it will improve your immune system. So that’s one of the things that you see a lot of the municipalities trying to deal with how to keep people apart mostly inside but also let them out enough to get a lot of exercise. I think some part of the Bay Area they’ve shut down some of the roads so that people will have more room. Pedestrians and biker bicyclists cyclists. That doesn’t work everywhere. I think they tried some of that in New York and it just it was too hard to manage that there wasn’t enough there wasn’t enough law enforcement on hand to kind of keep it enforced. But it’s something that everybody’s kind of trying to deal with. So yes everybody go outside exercise do not stay in and binge eat OK maybe stay in and binge eat ice cream for part of the day. But then go out and do this. So there are a lot of people on here who seem to be having a debate about whether this is worse than the common cold or the flu. Not sure if this is a terribly useful discussion to have in part because it smells just a little bit too partisan. You can talk about all kinds of things that kill a lot of people. People often bring up car accidents. Yes and the United States has spent years and billions of dollars trying to minimize that. Even if you want to go in that direction. But I’m pretty sure most people can figure out why car accidents and a global pandemic are slightly different. So I’m not going to I’m not going to go into that too much that somebody is making fun of my racing I guess that’s actually a Simpsons reference. If anybody’s a fan of the Halloween tree house of horrors over the years the Simpsons years and years and years ago. And I’m dating myself here clearly because the Simpsons and I are equally old but they had an episode where they made fun of the shining and that a little the groundskeeper Willie played the old guy whose cat man’s scrub Struthers in the actual movie and he’s like don’t be mean to the little boy. His father’s going to go mad and chop the family into haggis. So that is actually a Simpsons reference for those wondering why on earth I’m bringing up haggis in the middle of a pandemic. So what are the less it’s fun pass me. What are the lessons learned from this pandemic. What will the corrective actions be. Oh god is such a great question. And the answer is no one knows. No one knows the lessons. I mean you can talk about what should have been done ahead of time or who should have been prepared and what stockpiles should have been there. You know what briefing books were ignoring what all of these things in hindsight are just so difficult to deal with. I think a lot of political domestic issues will pop up and we will debate them. Health care paid leave income inequality access to school remote learning a lot of these but it remains to be seen whether any of them result in any kind of major changes. I for one am excited that I think that remote meetings will be something that people do going forward which means I will shower less and have to have fewer work clothes. But I work from home most of the time anyway. So this is really just my introducing all of my board colleagues to the joys of doing remote meetings from your living room without actually putting on dress pants. There’s no issue there’s no issue dress pants for me. Let’s see you. Why is it so difficult for Trump to show any empathetic leadership. OK so that’s kind of a leading question. People have discussed in general that that’s just really not how he rolls. That’s not his personality. He’s not big on empathy. The harsher readings are that he is a genuine narcissist and the gentler readings are just that or I guess the positive spin on it is that he’s he doesn’t have time for that. It’s just not really what he has time to be bothered with. You see the man of action or whatever but the short answer is it’s just not his personality. And it’s one of the reasons why people thought that Joe Biden actually wound up with an edge in the Democratic primaries even though he was already leading. But as the pandemic kind of took hold excuse me my cap is demanding attention when we do that or one of my cats is that people who were asked as they were leaving the polls who they would rather deal with during a crisis or who they trust more to deal with a crisis you know with stable leadership and that sort of thing picked Biden over Bernie Sanders by a two to one margin. And I think the sense was that Biden conveyed more of an empathetic serious you know kind of caring demeanor during the debates and whatever public appearances he was doing. So that is one of the issues going forward is how much that manner will help him help Biden out as the campaign assuming the campaign gets back up and running. I understand that he’s doing remote ish he’s doing remote fundraisers and remote speeches and television appearances and that sort of thing. But that is not front and center right now the way it will be as the election gets closer. How will de Blasio be remembered for his leadership during this period I’m thinking not good. I mean, I’m not in New York so I don’t watch in his carefully as some of my colleagues do. But he has not received rave reviews and he’s been overshadowed quite a bit by Cuomo who has emerged as something of a superstar in New York for his fierce defense of the city and kind of his no nonsense briefings and things like that. So de Blasio has been a bit dither ish. So I don’t think he will be trashed for it but I don’t think it’s going to be what he is best remembered for in a good way. What should the public health system prepare for the next biological war. So that is one of the interesting questions is this time around it is sort of a natural disaster. We have no real evidence that this was set upon the globe intentionally by anyone but what public health lessons will there be in the event of a possible biological war. And I think that that’s one of the questions certainly that will be looked at by the people who’ve been kind of caught off guard because not only was the national stockpile of protective equipment and resources not only was that not up to speed. You know we’ve seen things where contracts for maintenance on equipment were not up to speed. A lot of gaps in preparedness that sort of thing. My guess is that all of that will be looked at. I mean the way that disasters happen if you will remember 9/11 after 9/11 then suddenly everybody was trying to clamp down on that war. I mean we tend to prepare for the previous war we’ve just dealt with we’re not very good at looking forward. We’re always agonizing about what we’ve just screwed up. And I just don’t think that’s going to change. That’s just human nature. We’re always fighting the last war. So you know you still can’t take a big bottle of shampoo on an airplane. But we were caught completely off guard by this virus. So everybody will be doing their postmortems and they will be vowing never to let this happen again. I’ve been around Washington too long to think that that is a realistic assumption. It’s just we have a short attention span and we don’t we’re not good at kind of visualizing what the next problem will be really good at agonizing about how we screwed up the last problem. But we’re not very good about looking for it. Now somebody is on here saying blaming Trump you mean post-mortem. Again, you don’t have to put this in partisan terms. There’s plenty that Congress arguably has been defunding for the last several years. All of these things that you’ve been encouraged to think of in partisan terms aren’t really partisan issues. Yes this president is peculiar in certain ways and has responded badly in certain ways but by no means is that the only problem here. We don’t have a strong public health system that has been an issue for a while. It’s just not something that we have bothered investing in as far as how people are managing. We have failed to keep up our infrastructure whether that is hospitals and buildings like that or the necessary online services that help connect people when they are suddenly not allowed to do this face to face public schools. The idea that literally hundreds of thousands of children don’t have any you know better way to get their school meals to get their meals than through public schools forced this complete scramble and all the school districts for how to distribute free and rid of free lunches to kids who were left without when they shut down the schools. So somebody writes in there’s a lack of leadership logistics and respect among teens. Now I don’t know if you mean political teams or teams within the White House. Both are true. There’s been a lot of confusion about Jared Kushner starting his own branch of coronavirus response. There’s been a lot of complaints that the White House economic team does not respect the views of the health care experts in the White House. Yeah so somebody says so Mad Max I’m sorry the name fades as it goes but you say both. So yes you are correct in both cases. That is true. And then certainly there is an enormous gulf between Republicans and Democrats there’s a lot of distrust this White House has made that it existed and has existed in this White House has done nothing to improve it. So we are in addition to all of this specific challenges of this pandemic that you know the health advisors are trying to deal with. Nobody trusts each other. I mean there is a lot of talk about how Trump was warned about certain things but he was warned by people who he didn’t particularly trust in his administration. So it basically had to wait until other people brought it to him or the situation got so bad that it couldn’t be ignored. And that is a problem. And it is one that predates obviously this White House terribly. The partisanship in d.c. Trump did not admit he just exploited it. So I hear somebody talking about wet markets maybe the source in the conventional oh my husband has just brought me Starburst. This is all that’s going to get me through the day. People bad sugar for all of my talk about how you need to go out and exercise. So I swear I eat vegetables earlier in the day. But now you’re going to join me for some Starburst because that’s what’s going to get me through the afternoon. I can’t drink coffee after a certain hour. Or it just destroys me. It just gives me the worst acid reflux especially when I’m stressed. But Starburst this is the afternoon snack of the gods people. I’m ignoring all of the China kind of conspiracy theories right now. So I always come back to those later but I you know obviously there’s much to criticize China for. They have been neither transparent nor Pacheco anyway. So this doesn’t appear to be global pandemic. Can you comment. Well it is like 180 countries or so. So it’s pretty darn global. I mean it’s not I mean, there are places where it’s not but it is pretty widespread. So I’m not sure that there’s any kind of not sure if you’re suggesting that it only works in like cold or warm or tropical or whatever. Pretty it’s pretty widespread. So they’re still trying to kind of figure out if there’s going to be a seasonal component to it. But they think maybe there’ll be a lag during the summer or for a while they thought maybe that that would happen. Now they’re just hoping they can get a break from all those social distancing. So that it won’t fix it but it will give the health care system time to catch up. Maybe help the vaccine trials make a little progress so that if once the social distancing guidelines are loosened it comes roaring back at least the health care systems will be in a slightly better position to catch up with it at this point. And it doesn’t want. They don’t want the health care systems to completely collapse from being overwhelmed. So they were trying to kind of give them a chance. Now somebody’s asking Starburst or sweethearts Starburst can’t go with the sweet tarts I understand it is a valid choice. And in fact my husband I think prefers the sweethearts and nerds but I’m sorry I have to go to the Starburst. I realize it’s a controversial decision and I like strawberry in case that was the next question. I’m not a fan of not a fan of chorizo but I’m sad because this is like I’m locked in the house but I don’t have any great vices to make it worthwhile unless you count sugar and lots and lots of bad TV, which I kind of do except my husband reviews like movies and TV for a living so it’s kind of like his job. So it almost feels like homework. Oh lemon lemons pretty good lemons good flavor but that does mean that sometimes we get advance screeners for shows so we have a couple of early episodes of run the new show that Phoebe Waller bridges co producing we got a lot of early episodes of Game of Thrones and earlier seasons until people started leaking them and then we couldn’t get more. Somebody always ruins it. And w we’re all And we got a lot early seasons of west where all us pitching me Ozark say I watched a little bit of Ozark and I’m a huge Jason Bateman fan and really wanted to love it but then I forget why but just kind of lost the thread but I have been told that I have to pick this backup because it is fantastic. So I will put that on my list as I when I did this last week. We talked a lot about Grimm British crime procedurals. I’m addicted to those. So I’ve been making my way through several of those but I have to have something every now and again. I was really excited Killing Eve started again last night. I’ve got that save to watch tonight. And the other one came oh I like insecure or at least right. So Beth started last night. So now I’m like Chock full of options for bad TV watching. Oh run. Somebody must know how run is. I like both the leads to episodes in. That’s all I’ve watch. It’s not entirely clear where it’s going. So they’re funny and it’s very clever as you would imagine. Anything that Phoebe Baldridge is involved in would be and her co-creator of Fleabag. But I haven’t quite figured out where it’s going yet and I don’t mean that in that it’s so clever I don’t know. It’s just not clear yet where it’s going. So that’s good. And then trying to think there was one other show. Oh I tried to watch blow the man down but oh my god. Wait the loop on Amazon is interesting. I don’t know what this is what the loop. So this is something I have not. The problem is they’re like networks that it can just completely fly under my radar and I won’t hear it until somebody brings it to my attention. So like the outsider which was that weird Stephen King mini series that also had Jason Bateman in it some was fantastic and I just kind of stumbled across it. So thank you for any recommendations because I’ve stopped sleeping. I’ve found that sleeping really just isn’t on the program during this pandemic. So I’m up late at night and up early in the morning so I get up and I work and then by about 11:00 o’clock or 10:00 at night it’s time for like several hours of either reading or watching bad TV or whatever. So I appreciate it because West Wing stand the test of time. OK so I am a complete outlier on this. I never watched West Wing and I don’t like it after the fact because I kind of think Aaron Sorkin ruined an entire generation to think that that’s what politics is like. And the fact that it is not I I think some people just can’t come to terms with it. I I’ve been here covering politics for like 25 years or more. And it just doesn’t work that way. So I feel bad about that. I mean I love Allison Janney who came from there. And some of the other cast members or delightful. But I’ve never been this huge fan I think because I work in political journalism. It’s just like I can’t watch most political movies because it’s just like it’s too close. So try to watch gangs London and new TV show. OK so I basically need to sit here with a pad and pencil and just take notes for the whole thing. Because I’ll never remember all of this. So send them to you. I’ll have to have the editors who are capturing all this. Send it to me. Somebody talking about the meat industry threatens health. So now I’m I don’t eat like I am a pescaterian. Not for any particular reason. I’m not. It’s just not that kind of a cross between health and an og factor. I’ve never been a huge fan of. So I don’t I’m not going to pitch the either vegan or pro meat or whatever. But you know, I respect all views on this issue and everybody’s just got to kind of make their way through this one. Try some meditation music so you can get good sleep has a very good idea. I am terrible at meditation because I have monkey brain and I know that’s what meditation is for to fix monkey brain. So your mind doesn’t spend too much. So I’m better with guided meditation but meditation music that might work. I have Alexa next to my bed and it will play if you tell it to play meditation music it sometimes will of course here again my teenage son reprogrammed my all access so sometimes it will do horrible things like player what’s New Pussycat? at the top volume when I ask it to set an alarm. I think torturing me may just be their favorite pandemic game OK. Everybody’s got to have a hobby. Oh watch Breaking Bad. I did. I watch all that like the last couple of seasons of Breaking Bad. But it’s very good. I should probably. And I need to go back in and catch up on the last couple. So that’s good. That’s good. And I actually never got into Better Call Saul, which I also hear was very good. So basically my pandemic viewing could just go on forever and ever the one kind of exception I make with political stuff is I do like British political shows and we talked about this. I think last time the original house of cards was this British black comedy that was way nastier than the American series house of cards and also the four of billions on Showtime. OK so my sister is obsessed with billions and I haven’t really watched it but the lead guy I can never remember is named the other redhead whose film I actually met him once at a White House correspondents party here and he’s so much cuter in person than he is on TV that I almost started watching the show just because of that. But I did see the trailer at the new season is starting or whatever. So my sister swears to me to actually watch that. So I’ve helped someone. Oh my god. OK so somebody brings up succession. I have to say that this I’m so sorry that they’re on hiatus. I think succession would be how I could get through this pandemic with actual sanity and almost being good humored about it almost. There’s nothing that’s going to save my family from my general grumpiness but succession. The opening montage the openings just kind of credit sequins is so brilliant I have to like just you have to watch that even if you don’t really much like the show and it’s just it’s so much fun because every single character on it is absolutely reprehensible. I mean every one of them is a horrible human being. And they’re also fantastic. So it’s great escapism of sorts. So I highly, highly recommend that. Trying to think going through here what other people are suggesting. Yes oh Damian Lewis. Yes Damian Lewis so cute in person. And I watched him when he was the homeland a little bit I was more of an on Americans fan the Americans than homeland. So I didn’t watch him a ton on homeland but I did love the Americans. And there’s a new show coming out with Matthew Rees from the Americans, which I’m very excited about as well because I love him. So let’s see look WHO the house of cards. Yes so somebody else is a house of cards fan. The honorable woman. I haven’t seen now in 2014 British series. So that’s a good one to put on my list as well. So I want to just thank all of you for all these suggestions and just for tuning in. Thank you for all of your comments and questions. I didn’t get into some of them because in part just this is such a sprawling issue and there’s so many questions that we just don’t know the answer to a colleague of mine on the board just ran a piece about for every one thing we kind of know there’s a million things we don’t know. And that’s part of what’s making everyone so crazy. We don’t know when things will get back to normal. We don’t know how things will get back to normal. One of the things that is a big concern for people like me who have to obsessively follow a lot of this and I’ve talked to people who’ve run disaster relief efforts and interventions in the past is that they have talked about this as the one day we’ll be able to flip a switch and things will just go back to normal. Like if they Trump wants to reopen the economy on May 1st there’s some sense that then our lives will be back to normal. And I haven’t talked to anybody who’s ever been through like even milder versions of this or run these kinds of relief efforts that think that that’s in this realm of reality at all. There’s just there’s no way that’s going to happen and there needs to be kind of better communication about how things will get back to normal. And right now that doesn’t seem to be happening. So there is some concern that people will be very disappointed and stressed out and angry and it will be another set of challenges to deal with just because of expectations. But that’s it. I think I’m running short on time here. So again, thank you for tuning in and thank you for your comments. And again everybody please stay safe. Please stay sane and be sure to turn in to tune in for my colleagues as the week goes by and ask them anything you can think of no matter how absurd with what we are here for again tomorrow. Janelle Wednesday. Kara Swisher Thursday Jennifer Boylan and Friday Farhad Manjoo. So get ready and for those of you on the east coast good luck weathering the storm. That’s coming up. I keep getting severe weather warnings as we’re sitting here. So I want everybody to just think in terms of OK got to stay inside for social distancing. And so that I don’t get sucked up in a tornado which have been kind of devastating the south the last day or so. So take care and I will hopefully see you again at the next one of these.