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Subject: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:36 pm Subject: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:36 pm







Never seen features like this on a Satellite photo before - they appear on the Infra Red image as well:









Very Strange - I can only assume their some sort of "distrail" (the negative image of a "contrail" - heat from a jet plane's exhaust cuts a narrow swathe out of a layer of cloud), but I always assumed these were local phenomena - never knew they were visible from space!



Any insights anyone? todays satellite photo from met.ie :Never seen features like this on a Satellite photo before - they appear on the Infra Red image as well:Very Strange - I can only assume their some sort of "distrail" (the negative image of a "contrail" - heat from a jet plane's exhaust cuts a narrow swathe out of a layer of cloud), but I always assumed these were local phenomena - never knew they were visible from space!Any insights anyone?

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:10 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:10 am probably the work of the EU.



Yes, I presume they're contrails, shifted slightly by the wind. They look like these ones:



Clearly, they're chemtrails! The Irish atmosphere is obviously being seeded with pacifying chemicals for fear of revolution. It'sthe work of the EU.Yes, I presume they're contrails, shifted slightly by the wind. They look like these ones:

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:27 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:27 am



interesting examing the IR shot having read this Quote :

The infra red satellite image measures the temperature or radiance of

the ground and clouds. Light shades represent low temperatures and

dark shades high temperatures. The Earth is scanned every 30 minutes

by the MSG geostationary satellite which is located over the

Equator at 0 degrees W. Images are available here at 0000, 0600, 1200

and 1800. INFRA-RED SATELLITE IMAGE

So those light shaded scratches are lower in temperature than the surrounding cloud...Hmm



If the airplanes track caused the moisture to condense and fall as rain, that would lower the temperature, right?







Curious to look at the .





(I love meteorology! ) cool -interesting examing the IR shot having read thisSo those light shaded scratches are lower in temperature than the surrounding cloud...HmmIf the airplanes track caused the moisture to condense and fall as rain, that would lower the temperature, right?Curious to look at the rainfall radar , which also shows a long "streak" of rain...unless they're just radar echos - but again I've never see them stretch out to sea..(I love meteorology!

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:36 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:36 am from the radar notes:



"Note: On some images a linear feature may be seen extending from

Limerick towards Waterford. This is due to interference from a WiFi system. Occasionally

other similar features may be seen extending from Dublin towards the South-east."



Wifi! Whose house is that connected to?!



Strange that it sort of matches up with the lines on the Satellite shot. If I was more suspiscious-minded I'd say the Rand corporation in conjunction with the Reverse Vampires are trying to Get us all to injest airborne fluoride...





" from the radar notes:On some images a linear feature may be seen extending fromLimerick towards Waterford. This is due to interference from a WiFi system. Occasionallyother similar features may be seen extending from Dublin towards the South-east."Wifi! Whose house is that connected to?!Strange that it sort of matches up with the lines on the Satellite shot. If I was more suspiscious-minded I'd say the Rand corporation in conjunction with the Reverse Vampires are trying to Get us all to injest airborne fluoride...

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:13 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:13 am Wifi is on approx 2.4 GHz. It must be close to weather radar frequency.



Aviation secondary radar is on 1.030 GHz and 1.090 GHz iirc. Don't remember primary radar. Like Dislike

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:19 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:19 am EvotingMachine0197 wrote: Wifi is on approx 2.4 GHz. It must be close to weather radar frequency.



Aviation secondary radar is on 1.030 GHz and 1.090 GHz iirc. Don't remember primary radar.

thx - any idea why it would create an echo line (or whatever it's called) from Limerick to Waterford? thx - any idea why it would create an echo line (or whatever it's called) from Limerick to Waterford?

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:40 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:40 am



Something like that anyway. It would be interesting to get the location of the radar and it's frequency, and see if it corresponds with a bradband scheme in Waterford.



OOps forgot the picture.



I'd say what is happening here is that the weather radar is ground based, in Foynes or Shannon if the crosshairs I drew in are correct. Audi might know where it is. Then down in Waterford they have a community wifi broadband scheme or something which is pumping out 2.4GHz, so every time the radar head comes around it sees in band energy and thinks its a reflection - i.e rain.Something like that anyway. It would be interesting to get the location of the radar and it's frequency, and see if it corresponds with a bradband scheme in Waterford.OOps forgot the picture. Like Dislike

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:47 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:47 am EvotingMachine0197 wrote: I'd say what is happening here is that the weather radar is ground based, in Foynes or Shannon if the crosshairs I drew in are correct. Audi might know where it is. Then down in Waterford they have a community wifi broadband scheme or something which is pumping out 2.4GHz, so every time the radar head comes around it sees in band energy and thinks its a reflection - i.e rain.



Something like that anyway. It would be interesting to get the location of the radar and it's frequency, and see if it corresponds with a bradband scheme in Waterford.



Quote : Weather radar was installed at Shannon in May 1996. It is arguably the most important radar in Ireland as it is the first to detect weather from the south-west. It can show rainfall to a range of 240 Km and wind to a range of 100 Km. A high frequency pulse (freq. 5.6 GHz) is transmitted at a typical rate of 570 pulses per second (normally referred to as the PRF or pulse repetition frequency). http://www.met.ie/aviation/shannon.asp

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:51 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:51 am So right location but wrong frequency. Hmmm. Maybe the broadband jobby in Waterford is not 2.4GHz ?



Where would we get info on that ? Like Dislike

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:53 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:53 am Actually it does not have to be in Waterford, it just has to be on that bearing. Waterford is more south of that line anyway isn't ? Like Dislike

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:01 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:01 am Its more like North Tipp, Kilkenny, Wexford.

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:06 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:06 am cactus flower wrote: Its more like North Tipp, Kilkenny, Wexford.

Ah Kilkenny, a strong possibility. We need to superimpose a metropolitan map, just like in CSI Miami. Ah Kilkenny, a strong possibility. We need to superimpose a metropolitan map, just like in CSI Miami. Like Dislike

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:06 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:06 am ibis wrote: Clearly, they're chemtrails! The Irish atmosphere is obviously being seeded with pacifying chemicals for fear of revolution. It's probably the work of the EU.



Yes, I presume they're contrails, shifted slightly by the wind. They look like these ones:





I'm beginning to think that you have a slightly unhealthy preoccupation with conspiracy theory Ibis. You seem to know more about it than anyone sane has any business knowing. I'm beginning to think that you have a slightly unhealthy preoccupation with conspiracy theory Ibis. You seem to know more about it than anyonehas any business knowing.

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:09 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:09 am ibis wrote: Clearly, they're chemtrails! The Irish atmosphere is obviously being seeded with pacifying chemicals for fear of revolution. It's probably the work of the EU.



Yes, I presume they're contrails, shifted slightly by the wind. They look like these ones:





I'm beginning to think that you have a slightly unhealthy preoccupation with conspiracy theory Ibis. You seem to know more about it than anyone sane has any business knowing. I'm beginning to think that you have a slightly unhealthy preoccupation with conspiracy theory Ibis. You seem to know more about it than anyonehas any business knowing.

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:52 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:52 pm







Irish Broadband Press



Quote : Irish Broadband will be using BreezeACCESS VL to expand an existing Alvarion-based network operating in 5.7GHz, while they will use their recently awarded 3.5 GHz licenses to deploy the BreezeMAX 3500. BreezeMAX will enable Irish Broadband and their subscribers to enjoy the benefits of WiMAX technology that include high service quality with Non-Line-of-Sight (NLOS) functionality plus long-term cost effectiveness.



Irish Broadband is a competitive local exchange carrier (CLEC) that currently serves business and residential customers in Dublin, Cork and Derry in Northern Ireland. The BreezeMAX network will extend coverage to the cities of Dundalk, Drogheda, Galway, Limerick, and Waterford.



Launched in May 2003, Irish Broadbands wireless broadband network was built originally in the 2.4GHz spectrum using Alvarions BreezeACCESS II equipment. Leveraging the success of that network, in October 2003, Irish Broadband began expanding into the unlicensed 5.7GHz spectrum using Alvarions new OFDM system, BreezeACCESS VL. The 5.7GHz network was rolled out alongside the 2.4GHz network with 5.7GHz base stations also being used to backhaul 2.4GHz base stations for increased range. I'd say it's Limerick. Wexford is too far away. Like Dislike

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:31 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:31 pm Good detective work, lads!

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:44 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:44 pm Is that a big microwave zapping across the country at my county

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:14 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:14 pm Auditor #9 wrote: Is that a big microwave zapping across the country at my county

Yes. Be sure to wear your tinfoil hat at all times. Yes. Be sure to wear your tinfoil hat at all times. Like Dislike

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:20 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:20 pm getting back to the first two photos - reckon those are distrail (not contrail) tracks?

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:53 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:53 pm . If they are chem-trails they are not working. Everybody is angry, agitated and out to lynch the elites

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:24 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:24 pm Zhou_Enlai wrote: If they are chem-trails they are not working. Everybody is angry, agitated and out to lynch the elites .



I have a bit of a cold in the nose. Its probably not getting through. I have a bit of a cold in the nose. Its probably not getting through.

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:26 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:26 pm Quote : A distrail, short for dissipation trail, forms when an aircraft flies

through a supercooled cloud. The cloud freezes due to the disturbing

airflow created by the aircraft, as well as by the addition of plenty

of freezing nuclei due to the aircraft's exhaust gases. Altocumulus is

usually either frozen or supercooled and can show distrails. They are

uncommon, especially the clear distrails. Distrails are usually not

very long, since they usually show in altocumulus which is not at a

cruising altitude of the aircraft (i.e. the aircraft is either

descending or ascending through the cloud). In some cases a distrail

may transform into a cloud hole: a large elliptical hole in altocumulus

with virga in the middle.

Still not sure that the description ties in with what appears in the photos. Still not sure that the description ties in with what appears in the photos.

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:42 pm Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:42 pm Zhou_Enlai wrote: If they are chem-trails they are not working. Everybody is angry, agitated and out to lynch the elites .

Well, you need faith, see? Well, you need, see?

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:09 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:09 am yehbut_nobut wrote: Quote : A distrail, short for dissipation trail, forms when an aircraft flies

through a supercooled cloud. The cloud freezes due to the disturbing

airflow created by the aircraft, as well as by the addition of plenty

of freezing nuclei due to the aircraft's exhaust gases. Altocumulus is

usually either frozen or supercooled and can show distrails. They are

uncommon, especially the clear distrails. Distrails are usually not

very long, since they usually show in altocumulus which is not at a

cruising altitude of the aircraft (i.e. the aircraft is either

descending or ascending through the cloud). In some cases a distrail

may transform into a cloud hole: a large elliptical hole in altocumulus

with virga in the middle.

Still not sure that the description ties in with what appears in the photos.

If they were jet engine trails then they'd be continuing on beyond Ireland, some of them. I believe that planes still leave from Shannon westwards now and then anyway. If they were jet engine trails then they'd be continuing on beyond Ireland, some of them. I believe that planes still leave from Shannon westwards now and then anyway.

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Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo - Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:11 am Subject: Re: What are those weird Scratch marks up there?! Met Eireann Satellite Photo -Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:11 am Zhou_Enlai wrote: If they are chem-trails they are not working. Everybody is angry, agitated and out to lynch the elites . They must be 'con' trails so They must be 'con' trails so

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