Matt Dawson and Paul Grayson share their experiences of what it's like to go on a rugby tour of New Zealand.

Wales have traveled to the Southern Hemisphere to face the All Blacks over a three test series.

"Nobody goes there as favourites. It's unbelievably difficult," Grayson admitted.

Dawson added: "New Zealand is the only place you go where you doubt yourself before you've even started."

This clip is from 5 live Sport on Wednesday 08 June 2016.