Transgenderism and pro-abortion advocates at Ferris State University in Big Rapids, Michigan were shown a contrarian perspective on Thursday during a Q&A session with Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief Ben Shapiro.

After being challenged by a young woman who told him he is invalidating transgender individuals, Shapiro responded by debunking the popular narrative on transgenderism.

"As far as the actual psychological issues at play, it used to be called gender identity disorder; now they call it gender dysphoria," he said. "The idea that sex or gender is malleable is not true. I’m not denying your humanity if you are a transgender person. I am saying that you are not the sex which you claim to be. You’re still a human being, and you’re a human being with an issue then I wish you Godspeed in dealing with it in any whatever way you see fit. But if you’re going to dictate to me that I’m supposed to pretend, I’m supposed to pretend that men are women and women are men, no. My answer is no. I’m not going to -- I’m not going to modify basic biology because it threatens your subjective sense of what you are."

The young woman attempted to make an argument for objective transgenderism by claiming gender is decided in one's own mind and thus deserves validation from others. Shapiro debunked that claim as well.

"Let me ask you this. I won't ask how old -- I will ask how old you are, because you're young enough that it's probably not insulting to ask you," he asked the young woman.

"I'm 22, so I'm probably a little bit naïve, right?" she said.

"No. Why aren't you 60?... Why can't you identify as 60?" he asked.

"It's not the same as gender. You can't just...."

"You're right," he said. "Age is significantly less important than gender. You can't magically change your gender. You can't magically change your sex. You can't magically change your age."

The young woman tried to argue that legal age can be changed, which isn't true. Eventually, it was accepted that legally or mentally changing your identity does not make you a physically different person. Age and gender are both qualities that cannot be physically changed by self-identification.

Watch the back-and-forth below: