Last week, new Detroit Lions guard T.J. Lang invited the fellas from the podcast “Pardon My Take” to his home. If you’re unfamiliar with the podcast, it’s a satirical version of talking head sports commentary shows like “Pardon the Interruption” or “First Take.” The two hosts, who go by pseudonyms “Big Cat” and “PFT Commenter,” keep things funny and cynical in the name of harmless fun.

That makes Lang, who has no problem being blunt, honest and fun, a perfect fit on the podcast. Alongside Lang were his new teammates Graham Glasgow and Travis Swanson.

To give you an idea of the kind of tone this podcast is, one question aimed at Glasgow was: “When you look at his face, is [Jim Caldwell] dead or alive?”

So, keep that in mind when the topic turned to former Lion Ndamukong Suh. Lang, who faced Suh several times as a member of the Green Bay Packers, was not a fan of playing against the five-time Pro Bowler.

“I hated it. I’ve never played against a more literal psychopath in my life,” Lang said. “Guy was a nutjob.”

They talked about the two infamous incidents between the Suh and the Packers: the Thanksgiving Day stomp of Evan Dietrich-Smith and when Suh stepped on Aaron Rodgers’ leg in the regular season finale in 2014.

The latter incident originally earned Suh a one-game suspension for Detroit’s Wild Card game against the Cowboys, but it was later downgraded to fine. According to Adam Schefter, Suh told NFL officials that his foot was numb because of the cold and he couldn’t tell the difference between Rodgers’ leg and the ground.

Lang isn’t buying it. “He said he couldn’t feel his leg, it was like 45 degrees that day,” Lang laughed. (According to the Packers, it was actually 27 degrees during that game with a windchill in the teens.)

Later in the podcast, the “Pardon My Take” crew asked the Lions players to give some predictions. Glasgow boldly said he thinks the Lions will go 12-4, while Lang cautiously said he expects to win the NFC North.

The entire interview is definitely worth a listen. You can hear the entire podcast here. The Lions segment is from 20:39 to 45:37.