The New South Wales Nationals leader, John Barilaro, and the Liberal environment minister, Matt Kean, argue contradictory positions over whether wild brumbies are wreaking havoc in Kosciuszko national park. Kean openly contradicted Barilaro, who was the driving force behind the greater protection of brumbies in NSW, saying: 'One of the biggest threats to our national parks is feral pests: feral cats, feral dogs, feral rabbits and, let us call them for what they are, not brumbies, feral horses.' At one point, Barilaro gestures to the public gallery, saying 'And you want to give me the finger, sir? Keep your finger down, because that shows a lack of respect in this House'.