This week, the anti-immigration group Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is hosting its annual “Hold Their Feet to the Fire” event, which brings conservative talk radio hosts from around the country to Washington, DC, to interview activists and members of Congress.

The American Family Association’s Sandy Rios was broadcasting from the event today and had the chance to interview FAIR President Dan Stein, who told her that the reason we haven’t had more terrorist attacks in the U.S. under President Obama is because his immigration policies make terrorists see him as an “ally.”

When Stein warned that Obama is trying to use immigration to “pack the polls in the long term, reengineer the electorate no matter what the cost or consequences for our society,” Rios admitted that that was “a terrible danger,” but said that she was more worried about a completely unverified Judicial Watch report about an ISIS camp near the southern border.

“I am stunned by the knowledge that ISIS has a camp seven miles off the southern border,” she said. We’re talking about national security, we’re talking about an immediate, close threat to our nation. Aren’t they listening?”

Stein acknowledged that “at this point we haven’t had full confirmation of this from DHS,” but said “it wouldn’t be surprising if this sort of thing is happening.”

“For a lot of us, there’s a sense that the DHS under this administration’s control is trying to sabotage our immigration controls,” he said. “The point is that every single day coming across our desk at FAIR, we see evidence that this administration is maliciously trying to sabotage our ability to stop immigration, illegal immigration, people coming across our borders.”

“The question of course is why is it we haven’t had more terror attacks in this country,” he added. “The only answer must be that they don’t want to embarrass Obama, who seems to be such an ally.”