I think throughout the past 80 pages I've said.~ All of Swordfighters aerials are disjointed, which is a decent trait~ Its the swordsman archetype....with a cape,~ Chakram & Shuriken are redundant together, but on the tl;dr at least he's got projectiles.~ Feels like a poormans Link in general,~ D-throw is decent but terrible damage.~ U-air is actually pretty good.If he's at the bottom I imagine he will not be there alone.I personally think the Cape is near mandatory on him, because otherwise why even play him, and I ask that honestly. His down B power thrust is decent as well, 13% damage. Basically he gets two key things I feel other people don't replicate. His Down B Cape and his Down B power thrust. Other members in his disjointed archetype do not exactly replicate this.His Up special 2 is like Firefox, it's decent. Up special 1 is poop, Up special 3 is arguable, I prefer 2.I think in the end if people put the time in him, he'll pay off in that Cape will let him win matchups theoreotically for the same reason it aids Mario. Except in exchange for marios speed you'll get range. It's questionable right now if Short is the way to go with him, because range is important, and at short range he can't even utilt battlefields platforms.A lot more play has to be done with him, and I planned to do more homework on him but frankly I'm having less time during this holiday season.Perhaps @ san. will continue to monitor him, there are a couple of players interested him on Smashboards at the very least, but its a terribly small group.I don't think he is as good as the other swordsman, but that doesn't mean he is the worst in the game. However it is "safe" for now to put him there for a couple of reasons (no results, community perception, an abundance of questionable things in his moveset, his throw game outside of D-throw and maybe mid stock u-throw is overall ass, etc).I've also been trying to delve more into Kirby or was before things came up, he can't approach and he is generally the same as brawl but I feel he does rather well against the perceived upper echelon, it's the less discussed members of the cast that bully him.On top of that there is little Link talk, and even less Toon Link. I bring this up because I feel that Sword Fighter won't rise higher then them, and it be nice to contrast Links strengths with him, but I wont be looking deeper personally into Link any time soon.