On Thursday's MSNBC Live, during a discussion of the mass shooting at a bar in Thousand Oaks, California, host Stephanie Ruhle was worried that the attack would bolster arguments in favor of more gun rights to ward off future attacks as she argued that "college kids" should not carry guns.

At 9:32 a.m. Eastern, as former NYPD commissioner Bill Bratton appeared as a guest, Ruhle posed: "A bar -- as surprising as it is to me -- is known as a soft target. Is there a better way to prepare for these situations? I mean, when somebody opens a bar, I'm sure they're not focused on, 'How am I going to bullet proof this joint?'"

After Bratton lamented that it is impossible to make every such location bullet proof, Ruhle followed up: "But do you worry that things like this only supports those arguments out there, 'If only there was a good guy with a gun'? I mean, when you go to a college bar, college kids don't carry guns, and we don't want them to."

Ruhle and her sometimes co-host Ali Velshi are known for pushing their anti-gun views on MSNBC.

No one bothered to make or clarify the argument that concealed carry holders -- who tend to have an unusually low crime rate compared to other groups -- generally make public places like bars safer when they are allowed to bring their guns with them.