2017-07-05 12:22 -Mo-: 00:23:081 (2,1) - Didn't really expect using such a low spacing for going into a new combo2017-07-05 12:22 -Mo-: Don't think you did something like this elsewhere2017-07-05 12:23 Kroytz: it does seem a bit low2017-07-05 12:24 Kroytz: really wanted the blanket (which I should probably adjust) happens similarly here although not as close 00:25:224 (5,1) -2017-07-05 12:25 -Mo-: The difference with that one is it's after a slider pattern which is less intense, and you're going with a more linear flow2017-07-05 12:25 Kroytz: one can argue that because the pitch of the music drops, it may be acceptable to also drop the spacing of the NC2017-07-05 12:26 -Mo-: 00:31:652 (2,1) - But then it's inconsistent with say this2017-07-05 12:26 Kroytz: this is true2017-07-05 12:26 Kroytz: Okay then, let's see how to fix it then..2017-07-05 12:27 -Mo-: 00:22:679 (1,2,1,2) - So I would probably suggest moving this around somewhere2017-07-05 12:28 -Mo-: Or rearranging the whole jump pattern if that doesn't work2017-07-05 12:28 Kroytz: could also ctrl-g 00:23:215 (1,2) - so that (1) gets the emphasis jump2017-07-05 12:28 Kroytz: may work, but I dont like how it flows2017-07-05 12:29 Kroytz: well, it isn't all that bad is it2017-07-05 12:29 -Mo-: [https://puu.sh/wC89I.jpg Maybe like that]2017-07-05 12:29 -Mo-: So 2-3 isn't as horrible2017-07-05 12:30 Kroytz: yeah thats what I had in mind2017-07-05 12:31 -Mo-: 00:24:018 (4,2) - If you care about nazi stacks2017-07-05 12:33 Kroytz: sort of fixed the blanket but it ended up doing this http://puu.sh/wC8gg/598e818358.jpg 2017-07-05 12:33 Kroytz: was already kind of messed up but the ctrl-g switch makes it look a bit more obvious2017-07-05 12:33 Kroytz: is this problematic?2017-07-05 12:34 -Mo-: Do you mean the tails not stacking?2017-07-05 12:34 Kroytz: yeah2017-07-05 12:34 -Mo-: They're far enough away that you won't notice that in game2017-07-05 12:35 Kroytz: ok2017-07-05 12:36 -Mo-: 00:49:197 (2) - 00:52:143 (1) - This is more a prefernce thing I guess, but I would use circles personally to match vocals2017-07-05 12:38 Kroytz: not really a fan of odd subdivisions here2017-07-05 12:38 -Mo-: Yeah that's fair enough2017-07-05 12:39 -Mo-: 01:10:358 (1) - Not too sure about the visibility of this circle2017-07-05 12:39 -Mo-: And I think this is the only place where you stack for 3/4 sliders2017-07-05 12:40 Kroytz: its also the only place in the music where it has a double triple thing2017-07-05 12:41 Kroytz: with that loud synth behind it2017-07-05 12:41 -Mo-: Alright then2017-07-05 12:42 Kroytz: but yeah, the playtests ive gotten people can read/hit it2017-07-05 12:43 -Mo-: 01:21:474 (2,3,4,5,6) - Feels kinda random to have this jump pattern in the middle of this section of mostly sliders and held vocals2017-07-05 12:44 -Mo-: If anything the jumps might fit better on the next measure for a build up2017-07-05 12:45 Kroytz: ah yeah, that was to separate the measures since 01:22:143 (1,2,3,4) - has a more dominant synth in the background2017-07-05 12:45 Kroytz: thats also an idea2017-07-05 12:45 Kroytz: thing is,2017-07-05 12:45 Kroytz: using the jumps on the measure you said wouldn't help differentiate this 01:23:215 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -2017-07-05 12:46 -Mo-: Yeah that's true2017-07-05 12:48 -Mo-: Using sliders again would be repetitive and I guess you don't really want to use a mix of two2017-07-05 12:49 Kroytz: yes2017-07-05 12:49 -Mo-: So I guess what you're using is the best solution given that2017-07-05 12:50 Kroytz: mm, yes2017-07-05 12:50 -Mo-: 02:34:733 (5) - I would move this a bit more to the right so the spacing contrast with 02:34:465 (3,4,5) - is clearer2017-07-05 12:51 Kroytz: sure2017-07-05 12:52 Kroytz: moved it 20 across the x axis2017-07-05 12:52 -Mo-: Sounds good2017-07-05 12:53 -Mo-: 02:47:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Feels weird using a jump pattern so soon and then the following combos be relatively less intense2017-07-05 12:54 Kroytz: hm, sort of alternates intensity it looks like2017-07-05 12:55 Kroytz: I see why it might be weird, personally I think it's fine. not the best explanation besides it bringing variety to the measures2017-07-05 12:55 Kroytz: since the vocals sound like they'd all be 1/2 sliders2017-07-05 12:56 -Mo-: My suggestion would've been to replace 1-4 with sliders so it's a better transition back into the 1/2 clicking2017-07-05 12:58 Kroytz: maybe 3,4 slider2017-07-05 12:58 Kroytz: and 7,8 slider2017-07-05 12:58 Kroytz: er, hm2017-07-05 12:58 -Mo-: That could work2017-07-05 12:59 Kroytz: yeah I can do that2017-07-05 12:59 -Mo-: 02:48:258 (4,5) - Also kind of on the side but I at least think it's weird to have this spacing be lowered2017-07-05 13:00 Kroytz: my intent was to slowly build it up woops2017-07-05 13:00 Kroytz: its okay, modifying the measure entirely2017-07-05 13:00 -Mo-: Cool2017-07-05 13:01 -Mo-: 03:05:402 - 03:06:206 - I would suggest aiming to make these beats clickable since the synth does something different on these2017-07-05 13:02 Kroytz: agh sort of has to do with my thing with the subdivisions2017-07-05 13:03 -Mo-: Yeah I kinda guessed2017-07-05 13:03 Kroytz: yeah lol2017-07-05 13:05 -Mo-: I guess it's fine2017-07-05 13:06 -Mo-: 03:38:215 (1,2,3,4) - Any particular reason for not doing a 90-degree pattern like 01:47:858 (1,2,3,4) - 02:46:786 (1,2,3,4) - ?2017-07-05 13:07 Kroytz: figure it gets tiring on the third time around tbh2017-07-05 13:07 -Mo-: Fair2017-07-05 13:08 Kroytz: but, 90s wouldnt work so well in that spot either. kind of ugly overlaps and bad design2017-07-05 13:08 -Mo-: Would be kind of hard to fit in yeah2017-07-05 13:09 -Mo-: 03:58:036 (3,4) - This flow kind of feels out of place since I don't think anything else goes back along the slider path2017-07-05 13:10 Kroytz: plays more like an up down motion along with the NC2017-07-05 13:12 -Mo-: I guess it's kind of weird since for 3-4 you have to change directions after you finish the slider2017-07-05 13:12 -Mo-: Where 4-1 you're already moving towards the NC after you finish the slider2017-07-05 13:13 -Mo-: So even though it's up/down it's still two different kinds of movement2017-07-05 13:14 Kroytz: I guess that's true. doesn't really seem big to me, and considering clap on (4) may be justified but not everything can have the perfectest flow2017-07-05 13:15 -Mo-: [https://puu.sh/wC9vV.jpg Would've been my suggestion]2017-07-05 13:15 -Mo-: Basically Ctrl+G on 2 and 32017-07-05 13:16 Kroytz: that.. actually looks pretty good2017-07-05 13:16 Kroytz: my only concern is the flow change between 03:57:233 (4,1,2) -2017-07-05 13:17 Kroytz: since my current flow despite the (3,4) updown still goes counter clock2017-07-05 13:17 Kroytz: yeah, I think your alternative is good but may not help with my intent on the flows constant counterclock2017-07-05 13:18 -Mo-: Could be justified with 03:57:768 - having a higher pitch vocal I guess2017-07-05 13:19 -Mo-: Also the CCW is kind of killed with the 3-4 up/down anyway2017-07-05 13:19 Kroytz: it can be, yes. I just think that the continuous counter clock might be more of what I would've preffered2017-07-05 13:20 -Mo-: Other suggestion I guess is swap 1-2 around2017-07-05 13:20 Kroytz: hm2017-07-05 13:20 Kroytz: oh right2017-07-05 13:20 Kroytz: that could work too, a bit more linear however2017-07-05 13:21 Kroytz: lemme see what I can do tho2017-07-05 13:21 -Mo-: Sure2017-07-05 13:21 -Mo-: That's it after that I guess