We hope Garena & Riot reconsider the decision of banning Raison.我們請求重新審視Raison的禁賽判決。

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[A petition from supporters of Raison to Garena and Riot]



We truly admire Garena for supporting and promoting esports and creating a fair competitions environment for professional teams. From a small gaming room to the whole Garena stadium , from GPL to LMS , and of course striving for a second ticket to the world championship. Every fans of LOL in LMS region has seen your efforts.



But recently, the decision of banning Raison, the AD carry of Hong Kong ESports(HKES) may cause some negative effects on (Garena)your company’s reputation.And we are confused by some details. Here’s our questions and thoughts.





Firstly , why is the new regulation retroactive?



On 2014/3/21 , Raison was already punished in Korea before the new rule is set. Raison can’t be a professional player in Korea. Why can the new regulation punish Raison again with something he did before the rule was created? Doesn’t the rule have to be “ NON-RETROACTIVE”? Just like laws are.



Is it really fair to punish a player with a rule they don’t even know will exist? The players and HKE aren’t prophets , there isn’t any reason that they can foresee the punishment before the new regulation has been setted. But now the punishment that they never foresee is arise. Is that fair to the player? Is that fair to the team?





Secondly, why does Raison have to be punished again?



Although Raison Elo boosted was because of his family factors (that he has to supply his young brother or sister to school.), no matter what is his motive , eloboosting is incorrect , there is nothing wrong with banning a player using other’s account , we agree that.



However, as we mentioned above, he was already punished in Korea . Why does he have to be punished in LMS too? Beside , why does the ban recounts from 2015/7/10? The clause Garena made clearly states that” The ban starts from the last time the player eloboosted.”





Thirdly, as a globalized rule why is Raison the only player who got banned?



As a fair and just rule it should be apply to every region.

We all know that CLG was once banned in Korea for two years. Then why can CLG still play in the NALCS now? According to principle of non-retroactive, we think that CLG should not be banned.But CLG didn’t got banned isn’t it because of the principle of non-retroactive, so the globalized rule modified later isn’t applicable to CLG?



Therefore, we think the decision GarenaTW, Riot KR, and Riot made together isn’t fair to Raison. Should Raison be banned because of a later-modified rule?Why don't treat Raison the same as CLG.





Fourthly, shouldn't Garena take the responsibility?



Garena, as the owner of LMS, should make sure that every player is qualified to play in LMS. And Garena did approve that Raison can play in LMS, right?



Then how could change its decision in the middle of the season? Should Garena be responsible for the great loss it brought to HKES? The time that why you approved isn’t that Raison got banned just in Korea , so he can competition in LMS?



Now HKES has to find a new AD in 16 days and just like Dinter, the jungler, said” I think it is nearly impossible for a new player to fit in our team in such a short time.”





Last but not least, we truly trust Garena, Riot KR, and Riot. And we really appreciate their great effort they put into Esports. But based on the points above we think the decision might be a misunderstanding.



We hope Garena can suspend Raison’s punishment and convey our viewpoints to Riot .Moreover,we hope Riot reconsider the decision of banning Raison.



We will be truly grateful if Riot can reconsider the decision of banning Raison. Thank you for your reading . We really appreciate that.



Supporters of League of Legends from LMS region



9 July 2015



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《HKE 選手Raison禁賽事件:一眾玩家的聯署公開信》



素仰貴公司(Garena)致力推動台港澳區電子競技環境與公平競賽不遺餘力。由只有對戰室到大型電競館，由GPL升格到LMS聯賽，由一個世界賽名額到爭取到兩個。從零到一百的努力，玩家們都有目共睹。



可是，最近LMS戰隊Hong Kong E-sport (下稱HKE)選手Raison被禁賽事件，卻看似一反貴公司(Garena)一直以來的正面形象，而當中一些細節更令我們一眾玩家有所困惑，因此提出以下疑問和觀點：



第一，新條例為何有追溯權？



Raison是在2014/3/21即新條例訂立前已經受到韓國處罰，在韓國地區禁賽和永久封帳懲處。為什麼突然空降新條例可以對已懲處的舊事有追溯的懲罰？LOL的規則就是這世界的法律，但法律原則難道不是「不溯及既往」嗎?



選手和HKE不是先知，不可能在新條例訂立前就預見懲罰，而現在卻出現了當時不可預見的懲罰，請問這對選手公平嗎？這對戰隊公平嗎？



Source:http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=106758&iskin=esports

Source:https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8D%E6%BA%AF%E5%8F%8A%E6%97%A2%E5%BE%80%E5%8E%9F%E5%89%87





第二，為何一罰再罰？



雖然Raison是供弟妹讀書的家庭因素才參與代打，但無論動機為何，代打就是錯，理應受到懲罰，這點我們相當認同。但是正如上一點，為何他在韓國賽區受罰了，還要在LMS受罰呢？這不是二度懲罰嗎？



而且為何還要從2015年7月10日重新計算懲罰？這不是三度懲罰嗎？條款不也是寫了「※ 禁賽起始時間：自最後一次代打日起算罰則。」



Source:http://lol.garena.tw/news/news_info.php?nid=2745





第三，作為全球條例為何只把Raison禁賽？



作為一個公平公正的條例，理應不分國籍不分地區也一視同仁。然而我們知道CLG也曾被韓國禁賽兩年，為何他們還能在LCS聯賽比賽？我們當然認為CLG基於「不溯及既往」原則不應被禁賽，而他沒被禁賽難道這不是因為「不溯及既往」原則，所以全球條例才不適用於CLG嗎？



Garena TW、Riot KR和Riot三方卻對Raison禁賽的判決，是不是有欠公平呢？



Source:http://na.lolesports.com/articles/league-legends-competition-ruling-counter-logic-gaming-0







第四，貴公司(Garena)不是應負起相當程度的責任？



貴公司(Garena)身為賽事主辦方，早就已經審查清楚選手的比賽資格，而那時批准的理據不就是Raison只在韓國禁賽，可以到LMS參賽嗎？



為何突然推翻決定？而推翻決定為選手與戰隊帶來的損失，HKE單方面必須接受這樣的懲處，貴公司(Garena)是不是應負起相當程度的責任呢？



本來HKE能與選手磨合的時間就因而白白損失了。而還規定只能找業餘選手作為替補，卻只給予短短的十六天緩衝期，請問這樣的補償對等嗎？





最後，我們強調是十分信任Garena TW、Riot、Riot KR 三方對電子競技的公平性的努力，但基於以上觀點，或許三方之間存在溝通失誤與誤會才導致這不合理的判決。



我們提出訴求:希望Garena一方能暫緩對Raison的禁賽懲罰、向美國Riot總部轉達玩家們的觀點，並提出重新審視對Raison禁賽的裁決。



並且希望美國Riot總部能重新審視對Raison禁賽的裁決。



如獲重新審視，我們定當聯署致謝三方的努力。盼能早賜回音，謝謝。



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