KASICH: Although we have governors that get very partisan as well. But at the end, the American people want things to function. And they can function. If you don’t worry about which party gets the credit or which politician gets the credit, it can work. Now, I can’t guarantee you that Hickenlooper and I are going to agree on this, but I’m hopeful.

And we’re going to do our very best to come up with something, then spread it out wider. Here is a final thing. If you want to solve problems, whether it’s immigration or whether it’s the issue of health care, you’ve got to grow your majority from the- from the middle out. You’ve got to exclude those who are on the edges because they’re disruptors and not in a positive way in many cases. You’ve got to grow it this way. And that’s how you get things done. . . .

JOHN DICKERSON: Governor Hickenlooper, are there other issues on which governors can work together like this, what you’re trying to do on health care?

JOHN HICKENLOOPER: Sure. Almost anything. I mean, look at all the major challenges. Look at the need to reinvent the way we do workforce training. We have- you know, two thirds of our kids are never going to get a four-year college degree. And we really haven’t been able to prepare them to involve them in the economy where, you know, the new generation of jobs require some technical capability.

We need to look at apprenticeships. We need to look at, you know, all kinds of internships. That’s the kind of thing that Republicans and Democrats could work on together. Go down the list. All the economic development work, it’s not a Republican or a Democratic issue to say, “We want better jobs for our kids,” or, “We want to make sure that they’re trained for the new generation of jobs that are coming- beginning to appear.”