The American Family Association’s Sandy Rios spoke at the Values Voter Summit this morning, where she expressed her disbelief that, in just 14 year, America went from realizing how desperately it needed God on 9/11 to shaking a “fist of defiance” in His face by striking down state bans on marriage equality in 2015.

Rios recounted how, just a few months after 9/11, she appeared on CNN in a debate with James Carville, who criticized Franklin Graham for declaring that Islam is “a very evil and wicked religion.” Rios said that when she told Carville that she agreed with Graham, Carville “just lost it” and “cursed G-D, right in my face.”

Within sixteen months of Carville “cursing God,” Rios said, the Supreme Court “made sodomy legal” with its Lawrence v. Texas ruling.

“That was the gate that opened the way to homosexual marriage,” she said. “And within—what?—12 years or something like that, we had homosexual marriage in this country. So we went from 9/11, when things were maybe a little more normal and we lost so much ground in such a fast time. It was just within that 12 years that that momentary national awakening to the need for an Almighty God turned into a nationwide fist of defiance in his face.”