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The ex-cop, in dark sunglasses, says he voted for Rob Ford in 2010. He is not ashamed to say that he did, either. He still thinks Rob has it right about subways. Toronto needs to get its act together and build more of them, the costs be damned, if it wants to be a truly world-class city, and if it wants to solve the traffic mess creeping up Royal York on its way to Highway 401 on this Friday afternoon.

But Doug Ford, running for mayor? Doug Ford, the business guy, the older brother? Rob, says the ex-cop, has his charm, but both boys are, let’s face it: “bullies.”

“I think part of Rob’s problems had something to do with Doug always hovering over his shoulder, and I think both of them were bullies,” the man says. “But Doug is the bigger bully. Rob bowing out of the race to run for council has me betwixt and between, because I was already thinking about voting for John Tory, anyway.

“I have voted for him in the past.”

A woman appears, his wife. She shakes her head at her husband: no names. But she is happy to talk.

“The Fords sure put Toronto on the map, and not in a good way,” she says. “And I agree with my husband. Doug is the bigger bully. I actually liked Soknacki, because he talked about ideas.

“But you know how it is in today’s world: people don’t take the time to read the newspaper and actually discuss ideas… They just want the sound bite. Toronto needs a grown-up for a mayor. I am voting for Tory.”

They climb into a silver SUV. Pat, a pensioner from Nova Scotia, happens along. She is on her way to the dollar store. A young woman she knows is getting married. Pat is looking for some wedding ideas that might save her some money, here and there.