A while ago, I wrote an article Why did Chinese Americans vote for Donald Trump in response to the shifting voter demographics in Chinese American community. Obviously, I received a lot of hate comments, as if I personally voted for Trump and somehow I am a black hater. This of course, has to do the fact I didn’t massage into the statement “Some bad apples from the black community would even stand out in a variety of online platforms to dismiss the legitimacy of the suffering and protest from the Chinese Americans.” I consciously chose to avoid saying non-sense like, “While most people in the black community are great…”, “I had black girlfriends…”, and “a lot of my friends are black…”, because none of these really mattered. I do not have to prove I am not racist towards blacks (and frankly none of those fluffy statements can prove it anyways) before I point out racist behaviors in the black community and beyond. In fact, the very essence that people have to massage into expressing concerns for anti-equality behaviors in the traditional liberal groups, say it the black community, LGBTQ community, or feminist group had been used by some of the so-called alt-right group as an evidence to shut the social justice warriors up. Well, I am a social justice warrior, and today I am going to call out some of my so-called fellow social justice warriors. They are not social justice warriors, in fact, they are part of a group I would call the New Conservatives (or new cons for convenience). These people uphold all the conservative principles, while using these principles for a new set of values. On the surface, they fight against racism, sexism, and other social issues, but in actuality, they fight for dominance. They are rather similar to Schutzstaffel or Red Guards, shouting seeming liberal rhetoric and using name calling and intimidation as the tactic, to whip the public into submission. Fortunately, I am here to expose them, and later in this article, I will explain what us liberals should do to combat the new conservatism.

An excellent example I got is this comment on Tumblr. (Don’t have read the whole thing just yet, I will break it down later.)

So most people’s first reaction is probably, “What?! That’s bullsh*t.” And for a lot of Asian Americans paying attention on the protests against the racist rapper YG, it probably feels like a combination of these two comments:

Of course, for some other liberals it probably could feel like these:

The general tone is, oh well, we are the highly educated rational liberals so we don’t even want to bother to argue with these undereducated people. Save yourself some time to do other things productive. You see, I think this is the liberal bias that helped Trump during the election. And I also don’t want to dismiss the possibility that you actually thought, wow those statements made sense (trust me, there is no shame in admitting it, rhetoric meant to deceive people by appealing to their emotion). I am going to break it down just on the face value below:

I think the problem here is xenophobia and white supremacy becoming popular among working class whites.

Here I assumed you meant Trump winning the election. Then yes, but it is not the only problem and it is not relevant to my article.

Not “the blacks” or “social justice warriors”.

No, I don’t think it is the blacks or social justice warriors either. How did you get this conclusion from my article? Is it because you are racist yourself so you came to a naturally racist conclusion?

You’re just another dumbass white person wannabe, aren’t you?

Well that is just racist. Also irrational, how did you get to this conclusion?

Chinese people are voting for Trump because they feel excluded by the Democratic party’s claims of inclusion. That is true.

So we agree on one and only thing my article has concluded.

What’s ALSO true is that many 1st gen Chinese immigrants feel no sympathy for people under threat of deportation, and Chinese Americans as a whole have deluded themselves into thinking that hard work and wealth will make them white, will erase their “other” status. It won’t.

Please don’t speak for other people. This is your own racist idea. Also, isn’t your fear for “1st gen” Chinese immigrants really just xenophobia?

There’s also the belief that we are entitled to the “reward” of becoming privileged groups via our conformity to white American standards of humanity, and Trump’s push against social justice/inclusivity appeals to the wealthy Chinese immigrant who suffered greatly to get where they are now and doesn’t want to share the “prize” of safety with others.

Besides not making sense, I don’t think Chinese Americans are trying to adapt to “white American standards”. First of all, what is “white American standards” really? Is that a racist idea in your own head? More importantly, what exactly are these “standards” you said existing in Chinese Americans community? Isn’t that also your own racist idea about Chinese American community?

Affirmative action is a very important issue weighing on a lot of older Chinese voters’ minds as their children start applying for college, and the establishment has given us nothing but a few court cases and weak Democratic support. So the anti-immigrant, anti-black and Latinx rhetoric appeals greatly to disaffected Chinese voters who hope that Trump will turn that rhetoric into something that will help their kids get rich. It’s really a combination of selfishness and a fundamental misunderstanding of American society.

I guess say no more. Racist exposed. You seem perfectly comfortable to create narratives to put all Chinese Americans into a box. Yeah, just think for a second, how many Chinese voters care or even know about affirmative action, let alone their “evil desire” to help their kids to “get rich.” Which, put an equal sign between getting educated to getting rich, and then be like, “Hey you know what these Chinese fuckers just want to get rich like we do but you know what, they want to go to school, fuck them.”

Stop trying to get into black peoples’ heads and shut the fuck up about black people terrorizing Chinese people en masse or whatever. It’s not happening and it’s a myth bred from antiblackness.

First if you got the idea I was trying to get into black people’s heads from my article then perhaps you are not just racist towards Chinese people, you are racist towards blacks too. Black people are not terrorizing Chinese people. Some black criminals are. You are saying black people are all criminals. So you should be the one to shut the fuck up, but I am not telling you to because intimidation is not a true liberal’s friend. Oh, and saying that is myth because it was bred from antiblackness is both irrational and shameless name calling tactic much like what conservatives had been doing on Obama for years.

And for the record, antiblackness isn’t some conspiracy from the evil SJWs or the white people created to destroy Chinese activists. It is simple fact that Chinese people were siding with white people during the Civil Rights movement, and it is a fact that we would be nowhere without the work of black activists. That is our history, and you are going to need to learn it whether you like it or not.

Yeah, Chinese people didn’t side with white during the civil rights movement because it was pro civil rights vs anti civil rights. Chinese people are overwhelmingly supporting civil rights. So you provided both misinformation and racism right here. Perhaps you need to learn more about history? Or perhaps you should start telling the truth?

White people are RELYING on our antiblackness to maintain control over America. Whenever a Chinese person believes that the problem with America is black people, and not white supremacy or rising fascism or poverty or literally anything else, they are a traitor to the Chinese people.

Again, that sentence made no sense. I am just going to focus on the last part. A traitor you said? A traitor to what? Traitor to the dominance of Chinese community over other racial groups? No, that is stupid and racist. We are people. Yes, today we say, stop shooting unarmed black people, or stop killing Chinese people, when they are being targeted because of their race. They didn’t choose to be in that group. The only group people should choose to be is “people.” When you are united as white, black, or Chinese to seek dominance over others that is evil and racist.

Chinese people are voting for Trump because they feel left out and they have fallen for the American Dream hook line and sinker. Not because of some mythical group of violent black people, or “SJWs” who clearly have a death grip on the Chinese movement, even though women can’t criticize any prominent Chinese man without being accused of being a white man’s sex toy, and Chinese trans men are still perceived as “ruining” the cishet Chinese mens’ masculinity.

Again not making any sense, but I get the idea you have a strong hatred towards Chinese community. You want to bash, I guess, sexism in Chinese community? But like what exactly? When did a woman get accused of being a white man’s sex toy? Didn’t you just accuse Chinese for wanting to be white? What was your argument? And oh yeah, I really still want to know what does “want to be white” mean? Like getting pale? Oh are you saying that in a vague sense to do things middle class people do. Then, are you saying that Chinese should stay poor and be at the bottom of the society? You want to bash Chinese community for not recognizing some trans men, which is an odd and racist complaint almost like saying, “Hey that Chinese dude was just hating on a trans man so all Chinese people must be inferior transphobes.”

You have to be a real dumbass to spew a bunch of racist nonsense and call it meaningful analysis of rising reactionary sentiment in our community. Have fun being a shield for Trump supporters.

First, obvious name calling and intimidation tactic. It looks like new cons’ tactic is to appealing to liberals on the fear of letting the conservatives getting power. We need to be smart and vigilant. Also, what exactly is your “community”? You are not part of the liberal community. You are just a pretender. You are not part of the Chinese community either. Even if say you have Chinese heritage, you have chosen to walk the path of a black supremacist. From your interpretation of my article being targeting black, to your statement of me wanting to be white, it exposes just how yourself have the tendency to protect legacy of the black community even when no one is attacking it. You are not worrying about the legacy; you are worrying about assuming black dominance. And no, you are not the part of black community either, because the reason you thought there was an attack on the black community’s legacy is that you are a racist who also assumed the worst of the black people. Yes, only the black supremacist can be so paranoid about the reputation of black people and so active to assume the dominance of black people over others. And you are a one of them.

Now we get pass the rhetoric part, so we can move a step further. Why did I even bother to reply to rhetoric like this? Well, because I think beneath the surface, this rhetoric is representative to what I previously pointed out, a rising power disguised among the liberals, the new cons. Of course, at the time I didn’t have the right words for it. In fact, I wasn’t even completely sure if it was a solid concept. I didn’t realize the truth of these “liberals in weird bubbles” (a term I then used) are really just another kind of conservatives in disguise. So I did go ahead and replied to this comment, in the spirit to further expose the racist motives. But unfortunately I am a busy person, and usually have limited time to spend on things that are not directly related to my business, so I wrote:

I am compelled to debate with you but it is midnight here right now. I would like to say the violence against Asian Americans is real, and I have been threatened and attacked multiple times in my own life by black people in different regions of the country. So did my mom, my Asian friends, and friends of my family. If you try to dismiss violence against the Asian American community, ask yourself if you have lived in a bubble and developed a false sense of justice.

And the reply came back very quickly. I might point out here. The conservatives sometimes say liberals have a lot of time, because we don’t work. This is not true. Liberals work and have perhaps even less time than the conservatives. Because we usually are working in the field that involves innovations. It is those new cons who have time. They borrow our values as an excuse to create division and chaos, and then benefit from the situation. This is another dangerous thing about the new cons. They do have one resource liberals do not have — time to argue. Okay, so we will take about this more later, but let’s entertain ourselves and read the reply first.

At this point the rhetoric has turned sour. Just a background knowledge I post the article on reddit’s /r/asianamerican, and getting 90% of the up votes. So no, people weren’t mad at me on reddit’s /r/asianamerican. This is a tactic to undermine my article by saying, “Hey you see Asian Americans don’t even agree with you.” Yes, they do. If he is referring to quotes I included in my article then no, those weren’t even replies to my article. They were racist quotes to other reddit threads. And they are not on /r/asianamerican. And that is not to say it would matter if they were. The only one quote I did get from /r/asianamerican happened to have nothing to do with black supremacists. Why didn’t you point that out? Now, at this point you may wonder, who is this guy anyways. Is he Chinese? Is he black? Is he white? Is he secretly a Trump supporter trying to get liberals annoyed of liberal values? Or is he what I called new cons? Well, I did some digging and it wasn’t exactly hard to find out. I am not going to shine a light on it because obviously he felt it was necessary to hide behind anonymity. But instead, let’s assume he is all of these possibilities for the sake of this article since it would be meaningful to discuss all the scenarios.

But again, I feel like to tear apart his rhetoric on the face value. He is a good troll, I’d given him that. Now:

do you want to explain why you’re more eager to blame black people for anti-Chinese hate crimes than white supremacists?

No, I don’t. But I would because it gives me pleasure to tear apart your rhetorical question. First I didn’t blame all black people for anti-Chinese hate crimes, which is what “black people” means in your question. I called out racist criminals, some of which are black. So if you want to saying all black people are racist criminals, that’s your doing not mine. Also, I can call out hate crimes against Chinese community as long as it exists. Why did I quote a lot of hate comments from black people in my article? Because in those articles the hate comments happened to be written by these black supremacists. Yes, white supremacists exist too, but they didn’t comment, so they weren’t quoted. And yes, there are other articles about white supremacists making hate crimes against Chinese. I recommend you to find them. They exist. It doesn’t make sense to silence a person from pointing out black supremacist because “hey white supremacist exists too.” BTW calling out black supremacist wasn’t even my intention to begin with, you tried pretty hard to make it so. I just followed your own logic for a second.

Do you have any evidence that violence from black people is systematically racially motivated, because that’s one of the most damaging myths that white people use to undermine black activists and black people in general.

Didn’t you say “antiblackness isn’t some conspiracy” in your last comment. How did it become a myth now? Speaking of myth, isn’t “can you prove blah blah blah is systematically racially motivated” the same rhetoric anti civil rights figures often used in the past (and failed)? And were you telling me to learn more about history? I am just completely puzzled. Hmmm. Just so I don’t sound too condescending, do you really need to prove a systematic oppression to prove the existence of racism? No. And then YES there is a systematic oppression against Chinese in America. It is imposed by racist, black or white alike. I have written articles in the past, and many articles you can find online. But I don’t think you care to look them up, since you are just pooping this rhetoric hoping it is disgusting enough to shut people up.

Setting up a race war between Chinese people and black people only helps white people. If you’re going to be a piece of shit, at least stop associating yourself with Asian activism and just join the alt right like a normal racist. If you consider not blaming black people for white supremacy to be “a false sense of justice”, I don’t know what to tell you. You’re the one living in a bizarro world.

Oh there is a race war now between Chinese and blacks?! And it helps white people? Wow you got some interesting ideas. No if there is a race war it is bad for all people, much like any wars are bad for all people. This is why we work hard to prevent them. Again please, if there is a war that is between me and one or two black supremacists like yourself. And no, I can’t even call this a war. More like an online cat fight. Then nonsense like “either you shut up and do what I say or you are the enemy” thing is so obviously a fear driven tactic following the conservative principles. Yep, I am living in a bizarro world indeed, with you in it. I am trying pretty hard everyday to understand it and I think you are doing the opposite.

“Bear” with me for a moment now, panda’s gotta roar. There is an even better following comment:

So, this won’t take a minute, let’s go:

Non-black poc who are anti-black are really scum and really deserve the shit they get when they’re called out.

Rhetorical statement here. Well, yes, anyone who are anti any race are really scum, that’s why we have a word racist to describe them. But what you really trying to say tho, is anyone who is not submitting to black supremacy’s bullying should be falsely accused as a racist. Oh man, who is the scum now? Oh yeah, you do deserve all the shit you are gonna get.

Like you’re not white, you’ll never be white, and you’ll never reap the supposed benefits of white supremacy. So don’t think shunning black people will make you favorable in the eyes of white supremacy.

Yeah, I don’t consider myself white, and don’t really care for white supremacy, or supremacy in any forms. But it does sound like you are pretty ‘cited for shunning Asian people in order to make yourself favorable in the eyes of black supremacists tho. You know what, I actually think it probably works. Black supremacists probably view you favorably. Congrat?

And as someone who is Asian, anti-black thought and behavior is a real problem. It is really our responsibility to check those within our community who act like this. We cant continue to let these people feel safe to voice their racist, ignorant, and anti-black rhetoric in our communities.

Right, anti-black thought and behavior is a real problem, and you know what, black supremacy is essentially anti-black too, much like how racism is essentially anti-humanity. As a member of human beings I have a responsibility to check your behaviors. Oh, but I don’t really feel like to make you feeling unsafe in anyways considering, again, fear and intimidation are not a true liberal’s friends. But I do hope and will help everyone to realize their racist, ignorant, vicious, and anti-humanity rhetoric is fundamentally self-destructive.

Okay, ranting is over. Now back to business. The real problem with people like above is certainly worth further investigation. So let’s take a quick look on the commenter’s account:

The first red flag is obviously the word chink. You see, it would have been quite a problem when someone is, you know, not “genuine” to put such word on their profile. The second problem is the obvious political correctness of the claimed account, bi-sexual female, who is Chinese, and socialist. This is as if to say, he stands for the “utmost” liberal value. Wow what a slap for us liberals if we dare to argue with him huh. Like I previously said, we should consider a few probabilities:

One, he is really a black dude. Well, that is really not that far fetch. Guess what, I personally knew more than dozens of black dudes who pretended to be Asian online, mostly for the sake of arguing with Asian people. What you actually know black people? You ask. Yeah, here is a visual confirmation for those who lacks of abstract thinking ability and always think graphically and emotionally. Yes, I am talking about people actually was thinking “oh this guy is probably an anti-blackist cuz he’s never talked to a black person blah blah blah”.

Okay, so some of those pretenders disguised themselves to viciously spread black supremacist ideology, but some really were for the sake of combating either internalized racism within the Asian community or racism towards black people. And you’ve guested it at this point, I helped some of my friends to set up these fake accounts for the latter purpose. Of course, I wouldn’t agree with it today. Now, if this commenter were a pretender, he isn’t trying to combat no racism. Simply leaving the word chink on his profile ended that discussion right there. He had to be a real hater to pull that one out of the butt. For these “traditional” type of racists disguised as liberal to slap around online, the best way is to fight back is disassociate each comment and article from their author. Don’t chicken out if someone says, “Oh I am a [some perceived oppressed group of people], so you better not hurt my feeling and shut up.” Challenge their identity. Ask, “Would it be okay if a [some perceived powerful group of people] say this?”

Two, he is really a conservative troll trying to get people confused about their liberal identity and join the alt right movement. This is further proven by his ending statement, “If you’re going to be a piece of shit, at least stop associating yourself with Asian activism and just join the alt right like a normal racist.” I don’t really know if conservative trolls do that personally. Because if I do know any conservative trolls, they won’t come out and tell me about it. I can only guess what they might do in my head. You might say, “Hey you are just a crazy liberal conspiracy theorist.” Well, you know, pretending to be someone else isn’t all that unusual online. If a black supremacist kid age of 16 could actively maintaining dozens of fake accounts, so could some alt right kid. Unlike those new cons I will expose soon, conservative trolls would intentionally associate racism and xenophobia with social justice warriors (SJWs). This is evidenced by the repeated mentions of SJWs in his comments. He probably thinks by repeating the word people would think he is one. And honestly, I think some people would. Ultimately, these trolls would be even harder to identify, because their motive is disruption rather than presenting an argument. Take a quick a look back his comments. He has more than once disagree with himself in his own narrative. This is either due to his own lack of cohesive logic, or because he was simply throw out rhetoric to associate himself, a SJW pretender, with hypocrisy, racism, and xenophobia. This is why we have to actively call out SJW pretenders even if it might seem to hurt at first. They are the slow poison, we must yank them out and stripe their self-awarded title of SJW. Tell him, “No sir, you are a fraud.”

Finally, the real meal. He could actually be all he claimed, a transgender socialist Chinese American. He lives and breathes in the liberal camp and seem to be like us in all aspects. Except, he seems radical in a different way from the radical left. He seems to discourage all ideas that are not his own, and reject all criticism, while the latter encourage new ideas and love criticism. Yes, he is a new conservative. Different from the neoconservative, new cons’ ideas did not deviant from the traditional conservative point of views. They grew up as in the liberal camp, believe everything we fought for, civil rights, gender equality, and so on. BUT, new cons did not fight because they came to the rational conclusion that these battles are for the betterment of humanity, they fought because they blindly followed these values just like the conservatives follow theirs. Their view of the world is graphic and emotional. They are convinced by pictures and sounds rather than abstract ideas. They feel like everything that isn’t in their understanding of the world are too bizarre to study. They do not have patience to observe complicated social issues and they love to water things down to good versus evil. They are essentially anti-intellectual. YES, they have all the characters we found on the conservatives, but they seem to just fight side-by-side with us yesterday. You see, this is all “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” situation for the new cons. They have their very own racist, xenophobic, and other anti-social-justice ideas. But different from the conservatives, they brain washed themselves to believe they were on the so-called “right side of the history.” Nope, history’s gotten no side.

New cons are not really “new” when you look through our history. Almost every region change brings us new cons. This is why communist nations went from idealistic leftist victories to dictatorial regions; this is why Nazi could steal the leftist movement and turn it into xenophobic purge; and this is why every religion taught love and acceptance until it became popular enough to encourage violence and oppression. New cons are simply domination driven people who disguised as liberals.

Of course, we don’t see an immediate threat from the new cons in America at the moment. This is because since the dawn of North American Colonies, the conservatives had been in power. Today both Republican and Democrats are controlled by conservatives, just the difference between stubborn conservatives and hypocritical conservatives. The formal mostly represent the middle class people and the latter mostly represent the elites (and pretend to care about the lower class people by redistribute some middle class income into lower class). You would say, man, but you are a democrat. Well, yes, I would prefer to have democrats in power because I am now an elite, and I was from a lower class family. I am adapted to work in a society controlled by the democrats. That’s for a selfish reason. I do get personal benefit from democrats’ idea of governing. BUT I also care about other people and actively trying to understand different point-of-views. Because I am too a true liberal. And I want to build a truly liberal government for all people one day. Let’s called it the people’s republic of solar system. So back to talking about new cons. They are not true liberals. They are used by the hypocritical conservatives. This misguided domination driven people with falsely installed liberal values. They have been played since the end of the world war II. But hypocritical conservatives would be crazy to think they could contain the new cons for much longer. This is evidenced by the chaos both in the democratic primary and the general election. Soon, we will see new cons, finally after decades of struggle, hold equal power to the conservatives. Which side should us liberals be at? You ask. Should we use them to fight one another? Nope. That betrays the very principles of liberals. We don’t play trick. We move forward as one people and take no side. We always “lost” in history, and we might even “lose” one more time to the new cons, and perhaps even hundreds of times in the future. But we know it doesn’t matter, because we didn’t fight to win, we fight for justice, unity, and equality. We don’t wish the death of conservatism whatever forms it comes, because we know they are simply the other side of the same coin. We will never truly be the winner, and were never really ever the loser.