danosphere [19:18]

Hey guys sorry I'm still at work- my workload leading up to the holiday break ramps up exponentially so yes, this week has sucked

danosphere [19:18]

and additionally there is legal chaos afoot that I can't disclose which we NEED to focus on- that has not changed the updated blockmarket date tho

danosphere [19:19]

@johnd is the one working on the peg and yeah I'm primarly the one on blockmarket, alpha version still targeted for this coming Monday

danosphere [19:19]

I have not been able to work on it recently due to the legal stuff, i mean I had to write a damn forensic tool to prove all our BTC was stolen, and not by a bug

danosphere [19:19]

spending time coding things like that is not something is _want_ to do

sphericon [19:20]

things are going quite slow at the moment in regards to development. It's understandable considering all the legal bullshit that you need to deal with. Perhaps we should look into getting more devs on staff that don't have to deal with legal stuff?

sphericon [19:20]

things keep getting pushed back, and under the circumstances, it makes sense

sphericon [19:20]

but that doesn't change the fact that the coin is not moving forward (at least that's the perception people are getting)

sphericon [19:22]

and i feel really kind of bad saying this stuff because you've been really nice danosphere, and i'm sure you're just under a lot of stress with everything. But i have put real $$ into this thing too, and I'm starting to get a little stressed as well :wink:

danosphere [19:22]

Yeah no i agree we should get some devs on staff- it sucks to sit down ready to move things forward just to check email and see I need to take 2 steps back

danosphere [19:23]

I have put incredible amounts of real money into this, and over 8months of my life

sphericon [19:23]

techo said he would pay a couple btc for a dev

sphericon [19:23]

or perhaps you guys could put some of the bounties in for payment for a dev?

danosphere [19:23]

we need to source a dev tho willing to work for the amount we can put together

sphericon [19:23]

motivational SYS, as it were.

sphericon [19:23]

sure.

danosphere [19:23]

we can def commit SYS as well towards a dev

sphericon [19:23]

i'm glad you're open to another dev

danosphere [19:23]

so it could be BTC + SYS, we'll priovide the SYS

sphericon [19:23]

i was afraid you'd be upset about it

danosphere [19:23]

no not at all

sphericon [19:24]

is coderboo sitting on the sidelines waiting for btc to come from moolah?

danosphere [19:24]

its just hard to find and its impossible for me to look for a dev and do all the other *stuff*

sphericon [19:24]

no commits since oct on github really :confused:

sphericon [19:24]

i hear you.

sphericon [19:24]

and i can imagine

danosphere [19:24]

there are tho

danosphere [19:24]

they are just in hidden projects

danosphere [19:24]

private repos

danosphere [19:24]

but still- we need more dev power

danosphere [19:24]

we need another C++ dev and a strong web dev and we'd be set imo

sphericon [19:24]

it wouldn't hurt if he said hi in chat/btc now and then either :wink:

sphericon [19:25]

would probably do a lot for the community morale

sphericon [19:25]

bct*

danosphere [19:25]

yeah coderboo?

sphericon [19:25]

yes

sphericon [19:25]

ive never seen him speak

sphericon [19:25]

ever

danosphere [19:25]

lol uh, he lost his job cause of Syscoin so he's kinda focused on income

danosphere [19:25]

and getting it back

danosphere [19:25]

so you'll have to excuse him if he skips pleasantries most of the time

danosphere [19:25]

he has a family :confused:

sphericon [19:25]

btw, thanks for being so not upset about this

sphericon [19:26]

some would have responded with defense

sphericon [19:26]

but you are actually talking reasonably

danosphere [19:26]

yeah no not upset at all, rather I support it and want to figure out how we can make it happen

danosphere [19:26]

we certainly have enough people in the collective to help "Search" for someone

sphericon [19:26]

yah

danosphere [19:26]

and once we have someone who is legit we can easily vet them- @sphericon you know code and we can review their past work too thats no problemo

sphericon [19:26]

and if you put it out that syscoin is expanding and looking for a dev

sphericon [19:27]

perhaps the new PR guy could be announced as well

sphericon [19:27]

and he could do the talking

danosphere [19:27]

Yeah totally

sphericon [19:27]

that would really show people that SYS is on the right track

sphericon [19:27]

its all about perception.

danosphere [19:27]

i think this is the kind of stuff that is good to talk about on the tcall this saturday (its lookin like)

sphericon [19:27]

sure

sphericon [19:27]

i know you're at work.

sphericon [19:27]

you should not get yelled at again :wink:

danosphere [19:27]

but something else to think about re: hiring dev

danosphere [19:27]

yeah right lol

kamronk [19:27]

I feel the call will help alot :simple_smile:

danosphere [19:28]

is equity and payment- so like say we give them 1mil SYS or something but its based on deliverables

kamronk [19:28]

It gives ppl the chance to get some real tim eimmediate communication

sphericon [19:28]

makes sense, don't want somebody skipping town

sphericon [19:28]

with sys

danosphere [19:28]

we don't want to put up a huge SYS bounty for them to crush the market with it I guess thats my point

sphericon [19:28]

already happened :wink:

sphericon [19:28]

ahh ok

danosphere [19:28]

and you want them to develop for SYS in a more long term sense

sphericon [19:28]

right

danosphere [19:28]

not do one lil thing for a big bounty, dump and leave

sphericon [19:28]

for the record, i haven't sold a single sys, including bounty.

danosphere [19:29]

so maybe its something where they get a equity stake, and % of that is paid out every month or week or whatever as they continue to commit / develop / do work

sphericon [19:29]

i suppose the details could be worked out later

sphericon [19:29]

the important part is doing an announcement of it

sphericon [19:29]

officially

danosphere [19:29]

if they need to take a vaca or something cool- their equity is still there but they just don't get paid out on those weeks or soemthing

sphericon [19:29]

and talking about PR and PM

danosphere [19:29]

yeah i agree

sphericon [19:29]

that shit is marketing gold

sphericon [19:29]

imo

danosphere [19:29]

and we really gotta forumulate that plan on the call saturday imo

danosphere [19:30]

cause if we all get aligned on it (collective level) then we can roll it out proper

sphericon [19:30]

and that's something this team really needs help with imo, is marketing and perception

danosphere [19:30]

if its only a few ppl who are aware or people aren unclear on the plan, won't be good

sphericon [19:30]

agreed, and we want everyone on the same page as well

kamronk [19:30]

I feel the marketing has to be timed right else we risk losing momentum as people try to use it and get frustrated/dissapointed

danosphere [19:30]

@kamronk good point for sure

sphericon [19:30]

kamronk, you're right. and i'm not the right one to manage that for sure, i'm terrible at that stuff

sphericon [19:31]

i get ideas, and the other people are the ones that can make things happen :wink:

danosphere [19:31]

thats where the call will help, we got good ppl here to help and as soon as legal is closed things will dramatically change

kamronk [19:31]

That's the way it should work around the table :smile: we all present ideas, and the best ones are unanimously agreed upon

danosphere [19:31]

but i totally agree we need to keep things moving (faster) in the interim

sphericon [19:31]

dano, i know you can't say much about legal, but do you get a sense that legal won't go on forever?

danosphere [19:31]

legal will definitely not go on forever

sphericon [19:31]

cuz in the community's head, it is ongoing and will never stop

danosphere [19:31]

100%.

sphericon [19:32]

and it is probably why price is diving too

danosphere [19:32]

lol think about how it feels for me

kamronk [19:32]

IMO a short time in legal = a long time IRL == uber long itme on the interwebz

sphericon [19:32]

i know, you can't tell us

sphericon [19:32]

and you probably have an answer that would make us happy

sphericon [19:32]

ecstatic even

sphericon [19:32]

but can't say a word

danosphere [19:32]

yes and yes :-X

sphericon [19:32]

so you have to spin what you *can* say

sphericon [19:32]

which is discussing looking for dev

sphericon [19:32]

talking about PM/PR

sphericon [19:32]

etc

danosphere [19:32]

and I have to be careful, fucking Ryan kennedy spies all over the place

sphericon [19:32]

then if we get anything back in BTC that's just gravy

sphericon [19:33]

yes, agreed, don't say anything.

kamronk [19:33]

I worry that this is in general and not syscoin-collective (my opinion)

danosphere [19:33]

we did win the winding up petition and we are working with a liquidator

danosphere [19:33]

I can say that :simple_smile:

sphericon [19:33]

awesome

danosphere [19:33]

and liquidators be powerful ppl in UK

danosphere [19:33]

they can reach into personal accounts, and just take the funds

kamronk [19:33]

sounds intimidating lol

kamronk [19:33]

"liquidator"

danosphere [19:33]

but we just started working with them today so, will take some time to get that sorted but they are not to be messed with

kamronk [19:34]

'You're here to sell all my sheet and take my moneys'?????

techo051 [19:34]

Awesome

danosphere [19:34]

they get paid when we get paid == motivation

danosphere [19:34]

Yep, and thanks! they say :wink:

kamronk [19:34]

Nice

danosphere [19:34]

yeah its just frustrating to not be able to code- im a damn coder

techo051 [19:35]

Any idea how much it would cost to hire a decent c++ and web Dev for a few months?

danosphere [19:35]

blockmarket is something im so excited about and it sucks to know its been f'n sitting there for a month

techo051 [19:35]

Or would there be an ongoing need for them as well?

danosphere [19:35]

im not sure tbh, and a key thing there would be vetting them enough to make sure they are legit

danosphere [19:35]

lots of "coders" we need a real dev

sphericon [19:35]

back for a sec-would it be ok to pastebin this and put on irc so people can see this chat? or is it not public...

danosphere [19:36]

it should be contractual at first I think, 3months- and expand from there

danosphere [19:36]

anything in #general can be posted publicly imo

danosphere [19:36]

eventually we'll have the bridge setup so it just IS posted to IRC automatically

danosphere [19:36]

and vice versa

sphericon [19:37]

just wanted to make sure that i'm not doing anything that ppl don't want.

danosphere [19:37]

@jonn4y is working with the liquidator since he is in the UK. Lol we were talking yesterday and I was like "Can you please handle this one- email this guy?". He was like "i'll just call him, np"

danosphere [19:37]

I was like oh yea duh your like next door to him :simple_smile:

sphericon [19:37]

what you've said in the last few minutes would go really far to make people feel good about syscoin.

danosphere [19:38]

yeah feel free to share it- wish I could repost to IRC and all that but the boss... >:-|

sphericon [19:38]

of course

sphericon [19:38]

i will do what I can to transpose it.

sphericon [19:38]

LOL

danosphere [19:40]

alright i gotta get back to work and there is a company event tonight too (ye olde holiday party) so I prob won't be around tonight but I'll be on tomorrow and of course checking the collective group posts for the time we'll be talking on Saturday

danosphere [19:40]

if you're part of the syscoin-collective please see my post there :simple_smile:

sphericon [19:40]

cool

sphericon [19:40]

thanks for chatting dude

sphericon [19:40]

we appreciate it

danosphere [19:44]

yeah no problem, sorry im not on here more at night i literally get home, shower/eat and then its legal work til 12a at the earliest (latest?) usually til 2a

danosphere [19:44]

and doing that for a month sucks, but im comitted to this thing fully

danosphere [19:45]

not just for getting the BTC back but for Syscoin, and what it can do and where it can take things

danosphere [19:45]

so is coderboo, he talks with me literally everyday

danosphere [19:45]

its just about legal crap right now, temporary condition and another dev will aid in that sense immensely

techo051 [19:45]

Cool thanks dano

danosphere [19:47]

np :simple_smile: back to to work for me, will be back soon as possible (and I always read what i've missed anyway, much as I can)

danosphere [19:47]

gets back to the grind

sphericon [19:47]