Posted 08 July 2014 - 06:24 PM

Marack Drock, on 08 July 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

Wow. That is almost the same price as my Jenner JR-7F... Clan mechs supposed to be around 2 times more any mech of their weight class.



Actually the Tabletop price of a Kitfox prime is 5,368,837 C-bills....So we're paying more for it. (Fun fact: Switching the Kitfox to a standard engine; illegal in TT I know but hey it's megamek; game treats it like a new mech. Resulting price with all the same equipment, invalid weight naturally, is "Cost: 3,526,900 C-bills")Now mind you, the Dire Wolf is tabletop to be 29,350,000 C-bills, but will be LOADS cheaper in MWO...And I believe Russ's explanation just gave us the reason why which I've been thinking of for a while: MWO has standardized the prices of XL engines (as well as potentially customized prices on all parts; but the true cost is in the XL engines; that's where they vary greatly away from tabletop prices otherwise we have Atlas K's at 22 million).In Battletech, each class has its own price even on identical engines.An XL 300 for a Jenner is just barely over 4,200,000 cbills. In MWO it's 4,900,000 cbills or so.For a 100 ton battlemech such as the Atlas K, the price difference when trading out the engines as if a pure stock mech in TT is 12,000,000 + whatever the cost is of a standard 300 engine. That's without any of the changing mech technician rolls, that's just literally base level pricing as if another Atlas config with identical weapons and equipment.(This also makes a clear point; engines are not intended to be interchangeable; the 300 of a 35 ton mech isn't supposed to fit a 100 ton mech even if you can fit a 300 engine into it; evidently they're not identical or even compatible engines even if the weight is; otherwise why would one be over 12 million while the other is less than 5 million?).The price of a Dire Wolf's engine difference when using Megamek to change from an XL 300 to a standard 300 (illegal I know, but done for an experiment), the price of the entire Dire Wolf becomes "Cost: 13,975,000 C-bills," from the price "Cost: 29,350,000 C-bills" which is a difference of 15,375,000 cbills + the cost of a Clan standard 300 engine for a 100 ton mech.. That 15 mil+ is for the engine alone.Since the XL engines are standardized in price, the tiniest ones will be more expensive than tabletop (since the price doesn't go down for smaller mechs), and the larger ones will be cheaper (since the price doesn't go up as you go higher).(Sorry for the edits which subsequently would quote you there. Wanted to make sure it was neat and tidy and clear for those who read.)Edit 7/9/2014.Looking at the XL engine price, Clan XL engines are exactly as expensive as IS XL engines.That said... We know the Dire Wolf's engine will be 4,900,000 c-bills.This easily puts the Dire Wolf between 12,000,000 and 15,000,000 cbills in a rough estimate.When I previously rough estimated for a Dire Wolf's price, I gathered about late 13 mil to 14,400,000 cbills give or take up to 90,000. So we're still in the same ballpark.

Edited by Koniving, 09 July 2014 - 03:15 AM.