l10f Profile Blog Joined January 2009 United States 3215 Posts Last Edited: 2009-11-13 01:30:27 #1 Jaedong- Bisu- Stork interviewed at the hotel after day 2!







▶ Bisu-Jaedong, become friends.

Finally Jaedong-Bisu-Stork gathered in one place. Bisu and Jaedong looked awkward with each other unlike Stork. Stork said that he was good friends with Jaedong and Bisu but Jaedong and Bisu had no chance to become friends with each other. So the interview naturally started with talking about Jaedong and Bisu.



- The three of you probably never met together before, how is it?

▲ Stork= We met during the group selections. I met Bisu personally but I only saw Jaedong when I went to practice at the Hwaseung house. I'm friendly with both of them, so I'm happy.

▲ Jaedong= I'm happy too. I'm not that friendly with Bisu yet so it's a little difficult, but I'm still happy. I like having an interview with such great players. I didn't have a chance go become friends with Bisu before.

▲ Bisu= I'm happy but I feel a little suppressed because they're such great players (laughs).



- Bisu and Jaedong didn't have a chance to become friends yet?

▲ Jaedong= I think that's the right way to put it.

▲ Bisu= We had an interview together before.

▲ Stork= I remember it too, I think I said that my wish was being able to sleep a lot.

▲ Jaedong= I said some things for the concept of that interview (laughs).

▲ Bisu= I haven't seen him on battle.net. We don't have much chance to practice with each other either.

▲ Stork= Both Bisu and Jaedong don't go on battle.net often, but when Bisu comes on he stays for a while. Jaedong goes on and off.



- Do you think Jaedong and Bisu can be friends from now?

▲ Stork= They'll do fine (laughs). I think they'll be good friends.



- I think Bisu and Jaedong can become friends through practicing with each other

▲ Jaedong= I'd be happy to practice with him. It would be nice to practice with him but it's difficult to practice with other teams.

▲ Bisu= I'd be happy too (laugh).







▶ Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang and WCG under Taek-Bang-Lee's eyes

The term Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang began to be used in e-sports a lot. The four progamers Bisu-Stork-Jaedong- are leading the e-sports scene as the top players, and three of them has made it to the WCG Grand Finals.



- How do you feel when you hear the term Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang?

▲ Stork= Everyone went to the finals and won? I got the 2nd place three times and that was to Bisu, Jaedong, and Flash. I saw a lot of comments asking why my name is in there (laughs).

▲ Jaedong= I was happy. There was the term 4 Great Kings (I don't know the official term, BoxeR, YellOw, NaDa, ), and I'm happy that I'm in the term that represents this era's great players.

▲ Bisu= I think I'm doing the worst out of the four right now. I'm honored that I'm being called that. I think I need to play better.



- Let's talk about WCG. People say that this is the best Korean lineup ever.

▲ Stork= I'm happy to hear that. I like the term "best ever" because it means that we're accepted by the community.

▲ Jaedong= Of course I'm happy too. Three great players were picked.

▲ Bisu= Although a Korean player will probably win the gold, we have to compete against each other. I wish the format was 3:3 proleague style or 3:3 team battle.

▲ Stork= That'd be awesome (laughs).

▲ Jaedong= I think that format would be good for Warcraft III.

▲ Stork= You're right. StarCraft players will all want to go first and all-kill.







- How does it feel coming to China?

▲ It's not awkward for me because I came last year. I think it's the same as IEF 2008, but I feel a little pressured because the two other players won their groups with all wins.



- Jaedong lost to Stork in the last WCG.

▲ Jaedong= That hurt back then, but I forgot about it. I don't remember that well and one of us had to lose, and I think it might have been better that Stork won. I want to do better this time, but it's not like I want revenge. We already played a lot in the individual leagues.



- Stork seems to play well in the international matches

▲ Stork= I played in both WCG and IEF last year in a small time frame. I feel like I'm going to die if I don't do well in an international tournament (laughs). I can't speak English, and if I lose I don't get money and I lose money from spending on gifts (laughs). That's why I always try to do well. I felt like dying after getting 2nd place in WCG last year. I thought to myself why I drank before. hyung drank with me too but he got sober right before the match (laughs).

▲ Jaedong= I drank too.

▲ Stork= I'm pressured less this time because I won IEF this year. I want to buy a new phone and I want to earn enough to buy one (laughs).



- How does it feel to come to China? There are a lot of fans.

▲ Stork= Europe, Asia, America, I went to everywhere but Africa. I thought there would be less fans in China because it's in Asia but I was wrong. Korean people just clap with their mouth closed but the Chinese people were different. I was surprised.

▲ Jaedong= I was surprised too. I was entering the stadium and they swarmed on me like Zerglings. I was surrounded and they grabbed my arm. I panicked, but I was happy. There were a lot of foreign fans and it felt different from Korea.

▲ Bisu= I haven't felt that yet. I think Chinese fans were more interested in Warcraft III than StarCraft. Famous WarCraft III players are playing tomorrow and I think I'll move around when they're playing (laughs).









▶ The Story of Stork-Jaedong-Bisu

If one is told to pick the best progamer today, Stork, Jaedong, and Bisu are definitely considered. What will these three players say when gathered together?



- What are you envious of the other players?

▲ Stork= Everything. Not their career, but I'm starting to slump, but these two are continuing to imrpove. Same with Flash. I'm envious of their skills.

▲ Jaedong= I'm envious of some things. I think they win a lot. I get a lot of stress when I play. I think I'm doing worse lately because of my surroundings. I think this is a very hard time for me. I'm envious of the players that are doing well along with their team, but Stork... (laughs). I'm envious of SK Telecom because of their records.

▲ Bisu= I think it's been more than 1 year since I won an individual league. I think I lack skill right now and I need to bring it up. I don't think it's time for me to be envious. First, I need to win the preliminaries for the individual leagues (laughs).







- Are you envious of Stork being friendly with so many people?

▲ Stork= There was I time when I didn't know about the importance of relationships. I realized that and I try to act friendly a lot. I say I'm friends with someone wherever I go, but sometimes the other person says we're not friends. I become friends quickly with that person if we're not friends yet, like I did with Bisu (laughs). I said I was friends with him on an interview and he said that he was friends with me on his interview. Unlike older progamers, it's hard for us to meet each other. When we meet, it's usually as enemies, but I still say we're friends (laughs).

▲ Bisu= I think Stork has a very good personality. I don't have a bad one either but Stork's is too good. It's very difficult to copy what he does.

▲ Jaedong= I have to becomes friends with him (laughs).

▲ Stork= This is different from the Jaedong I heard from my teammates (laughs). You became friends with quickly.

▲ Jaedong= I thought that I should become friends with Bisu when I came here.

▲ Stork= We need alcohol (laughs).

▲ Bisu= It's because we came with our coaches (laughs). If we were on the same plane we could have talked a lot and became friends.



- If Jaedong and Bisu used the same room, wouldn't they have become friends?

▲ Jaedong= Yes, it would be very bad if we didn't become friends after sharing the same room.

▲ Stork= Should we all sleep together? I don't mind sleeping on the floor (laughs).

▲ Bisu= I have the intentions to become friends with JAedong but we don't talk a lot. It's hard to meet him on battle.net and I don't go on often either.

▲ Jaedong= I don't use any instant messengers (laughs).



- The older progamers were very friendly with each other

▲ Stork= (nodding his head) I'm envious. I once ate with Reach hyung after OSL. It was very fun. I would like for us to do that too but it's hard because of the team systems and schedules. The only place we can see each other comfortably is during individual leagues.



- How would you feel if Jaedong-Stork-Bisu were on the same team?

▲ Jaedong= I would be very happy. It would be so good. I wouldn't be pressured and I think I would understand how it felt like to be part of the KTF's Star Lineup that was once called the Real Madrid of e-sports.

▲ Bisu= If we were on the same team I wonder how many win streak we could get. I think everyone would watch our team. It could be possible. We could go in the same team after declaring FA or we could go to a team if a large corporation decides to create a team.



- Have you ever thought that Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang was the best?

▲ Stork= I never thought of that before. The others did well in Proleague when they didn't do well in individual leagues and did well in individual leagues when they did badly in proleague. I'm just happy my name is discussed along with the other three.

▲ Bisu= You're too humble (laughs).

▲ Stork= I'm being realistic.

▲ Jaedong= I think I can understand what he's saying because of my situation.

▲ Stork= Your situation? (laughs).

▲ Jaedong= I'm not doing well lately and I get pressured by the other three to do better. I can understand what he is saying.

▲ Stork= I'm happy that my name is tied with players that do consistently well.



- Who do you think is the best out of you four nowadays?

▲ Jaedong= I think Flash. He's riding the momentum. I always thought I was the best, and it hasn't changed, but I can't feel too confident now. The results are what matters.

▲ Bisu= I think I'm the worst out of the four.

▲ Stork= What does that make me?

▲ Bisu= I think it's true (laughs). I have a lot of league titles but Jaedong has more and I fell the the preliminaries of OSL (laughs).

▲ Stork= I'm the best at 2nd place... after Yellow hyung (laughs). I once thought I was the best too, but the question is "now". I think the only person to experience something bad recently was me. I think these two know what I'm saying.



- What are you envious of the other players? (way to ask the same question twice)

▲ Stork= I'm envious of Jaedong dancing very well. I don't try to dance. I also think the other two are good at singing. Bisu is really good at singing. Jaedong singing DBSK was on TV. When hyung came out for vacation I went to a karaoke place with him and he said the only person to be worse at singing than was me. Oh, keep what I said about Hwasin a secret (laughs). Also I think the other two players get paid more than I do (laughs). They both try their best. I'm envious of that too, and that they don't get fat.

▲ Jaedong= I'm envious of Stork's relationships and his liveliness (laughs). I don't think he's awkward with anyone

▲ Stork= I don't think about what other people think of me. I don't care if they think I'm insane. is the best at that on our team (laughs). He really doesn't care about what other people think.

▲ Jaedong= I'm envious of Bisu because he gets to be on the same team as Boxer.

▲ Stork= I'm envious of that too. SK Telecom T1 is a team that led e-sports. It's the team at the center and he lives with and boxer. I'm the oldest in my team.

▲ Jaedong= I think you can learn a lot from living with such players

▲ Bisu= I also am envious of a lot of things but I can't say (laughs).



- if you compare Bisu-Stork-Jaedong-Flash to Boxer-Yellow-Nada-Reach, which do you think had more impact?

▲ Stork= The old players. Without them, we wouldn't be here. I wasn't able to be on the same team as any of those four players. I think it would be nice to be on the same team as one of those players.

▲ Bisu= I think it was more fun back then. I think the games are less entertaining now. Back then, one player did really well and showed new things, but it's hard to do that now. Everyone's at the same level, and it's hard to try something new.

▲ Jaedong= I think that too. I think all the players now think that way.







- The fans are debating about the 5th bonjwa. What are your thoughts?

▲ Stork= Truthfully, Flash and I aren't in the discussion, it's about Jaedong and Bisu. My fans try to put Flash in there though (laughs). I don't think there will be a 5th bonjwa. Maybe if another game becomes like StarCraft now, but there will not be another bonjwa in StarCraft.

▲ Jaedong= I don't like that discussion at all. I don't think bonjwa is a good term. I won't be happy even if I become the 5th bonjwa. I think it's pointless. It means that you alone are at the top, but then that means a lot of competitors trying to take your spot. I don't think it will happen and I don't care about it. I like competing between good players. I think it's better to continue to evolve as Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang rather than someone becoming a bonjwa.

▲ Bisu= I don't know the definition of the term. I don't know what standards the fans use to decide. The fans may have fun discussing it, but I just want to do consistently well.



- If Bisu had to say something to Stork and Jaedong

▲ Bisu= Stork is a great hyung. There are a lot of things people can learn from him. I also like that he does consistently well. Jaedong does well by himself, so I don't have much to say aobut him, but he's #1 in KeSPA ranking and he is leading e-sports. I trust that you will continue to do well.



- If Jaedong had to say something to Bisu and Stork

▲ Jaedong= I hope Bisu does well in WCG tomorrow. I'm a little worried after playing today (laughs). Stork plays really well but thinks he is bad. He humbles himself. I think he's a very good player. I hope he gains more confidence.



- If Stork had to say something to Jaedong and Bisu

▲ Stork= When I look at these two, I have no idea what they do with their time. I can't contact them and they don't come on battle.net. If I look at their profile their last game was from July. I think of it as they're trying their best and start worrying about myself. I hope they continue to do well so I can set them as my goal. Also, drinking together is the best way to become friends.



- Anything else you want to say?

▲ Stork= Our coach's voice is bad lately. I will try my best to lead our team like we did in 2007. She was the only person to contact me when I came to China (laughs).

▲ Bisu= I hope we get a lot of chances like this in the future (laughs).



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▶ 김택용-이제동, 친해지길 바라.

드디어 송병구-김택용-이제동이 한 자리에 모였다. 소문난 '마당발' 송병구와는 달리 김택용, 이제동은 다소 어색해보였다. 실제로도 그랬다. 송병구는 김택용, 이제동과 상당한 친분을 자랑하지만 김택용과 이제동은 친해질 계기가 없었다고. 때문에 대화의 시작은 자연스럽게 이제동-김택용에 대한 이야기가 됐다.







- 세 선수가 이렇게 만날 기회가 거의 없었을텐데, 이렇게 만나니 어떤가

▲ 송병구=조지명식 때 이렇게 만났죠. (김)택용이랑은 사적으로도 만나고 그랬는데 (이)제동이는 제가 화승 숙소에 연습하러 갔을 때 만났었죠. 저야 둘이랑 모두 친하니까 좋은데, 둘이 뻘쭘할 것 같아요.

▲ 이제동=저도 좋죠. 아직 김택용 선수랑은 친분이 없어서 어렵긴 하지만 그래도 좋아요. 자랑스러운 선수들과 함께 인터뷰하니까 좋아요. 그 동안 김택용 선수와는 친해질 계기가 없었어요.

▲ 김택용=좋기는 하지만 워낙 잘하는 선수들이라서 약간 위축이 되네요(웃음).



- 이제동과 김택용 선수는 그 동안 친해질 계기가 없었나

▲ 이제동=친해질 계기가 없었다고 하는 것이 맞을 것 같아요.

▲ 김택용=예전에 어떤 매체에서 같이 인터뷰를 해보기는 했었어요.

▲ 송병구=나도 기억이 나는데, 잠을 많이 자는 것이 소원이라고 말했던 것 같아.

▲ 이제동=그 때는 다소 컨셉트에 맞춰서 억지로 연출을 했던 것도 있어요(웃음).

▲ 김택용=평소에 배틀넷에서 본 적이 없어요. 연습을 같이 할 계기도 없었어요.

▲ 송병구=둘 다 배틀넷에 잘 안들어와요. 그래도 제동이가 조금 더 많이 들어와요. 하지만 들어오면 택용이가 오래 머무르고 제동이는 들어왔다 나가고 그래요.



- 이제동과 김택용이 서로 친하게 지낼 수 있을 것 같은가

▲ 송병구=잘 하겠죠(웃음). 왠지 둘이 친해지면 잘 지낼 것 같아요.



- 그렇다면 김택용, 이제동 선수는 서로 연습을 하면서 친해지면 좋을 것 같은데

▲ 이제동=연습을 할 수만 있다면 좋죠. 기회만 된다면 연습을 하면 좋겠지만 최근에는 타 팀 선수들과 연습을 자주 하기가 힘들죠.

▲ 김택용=저도 좋죠(웃음).







▶ 택뱅리가 보는 '택뱅리쌍' 그리고 WCG 국가대표

어느 순간부터 '택뱅리쌍'이라는 말이 e스포츠에 유행하기 시작했다. 그리고 '택뱅리쌍'의 주인공인 김택용-송병구-이제동-이영호는 최강의 프로게이머로 군림하며 e스포츠를 이끌고 있다. 과거 4대천왕, 신4대천왕이 그랬던 것처럼. 그리고 그 '택뱅리쌍' 중에 이영호를 제외한 '택뱅리'는 자랑스러운 태극마크를 달고 WCG 2009에 출전했다. 그야말로 역대 최강의 국가대표다.



- 택뱅리쌍이라는 말을 들으면 느낌이 어떤지 궁금하다

▲ 송병구=다들 결승전에서 나를 이기고 우승한 사람들이라는 생각? 세번의 준우승이 있는데 택리쌍에게 모두 패배했었죠. 그 상대들이에요. 처음에는 내가 거기 왜 끼냐는 댓글도 많이 봤어요(웃음).

▲ 이제동=저는 좋았어요. 예전에 4대천왕도 있었고, 그 시대에 잘하는 선수들을 표현하는 말에 내가 포함되어서 정말 좋았어요.

▲ 김택용=요즘에는 제가 제일 못하는 것 같아요. 그렇게 불리는 것은 기분이 좋고 영광이죠. 제가 더 잘해야한다는 생각이 들어요.



- WCG 이야기를 해보자. 역대 최강의 국가대표라는 평가를 받고 있는데

▲ 송병구=저는 좋아요. 역대 최고라는 말 자체가 좋고, 그 만큼 우리를 인정해주고 있고 주변에서도 그렇게 말해주는 것이니까요.

▲ 이제동=저도 당연히 좋죠. 잘하는 선수 세명에 뽑혔고 뿌듯해요.

▲ 김택용=한국 선수들이 금메달을 따기는 하겠지만 서로 경쟁을 해야하기 때문에 3:3 프로리그 방식이나 3:3 팀배틀 같은 것을 했다면 더 좋지 않았을까 싶어요.

▲ 송병구=정말 좋을 것 같다(웃음).

▲ 이제동=워크래프트3를 그렇게 하면 재미있을 것 같아요.

▲ 송병구=정말 그렇네. 스타크래프트는 다들 선봉에 나가서 올킬하고 싶어할 것 같아요.







- WCG가 펼쳐지는 중국에 왔는데 어떤가

▲ 김택용=작년엔 중국에 와봐서 어색한 느낌은 없는 것 같아요. 저번 IEF 2008하고 똑같은 것 같아요. 그런데 지금은 내 옆에 두 선수가 오늘(12일) 조별풀리그에서 전승을 해서 다소 부담을 느끼고 있기는 해요.



- 이제동 선수는 작년 WCG 2008에서 송병구에게 패한 기억이 있는데

▲ 이제동=그 당시에는 쓰렸어요. 하지만 그날 바로 잊어 버렸어요. 지금은 그냥 그 때 기억도 잘 나지 않고 어차피 한국 선수 둘 중에 하나가 떨어지는 상황이었고, 병구 형에게 진 것이 더 낫다고 생각하기도 해요. 사실 작년의 성적을 만회하고 싶은 마음도 있어요. 그래도 복수라는 생각은 하지 않아요. 개인리그에서 자주 맞붙었기 때문이죠.



- 송병구 선수는 국제 대회에서 강한 면모를 보여주고 있는데

▲ 송병구=작년에 WCG와 IEF를 짧은 간격을 두고 동시에 모두 출전 했었죠. 외국 나가서 성적을 못내면 죽을 것 같아요(웃음). 영어도 안되고 말도 안 통하는데 성적이 안 나오면 돈도 못 벌고, 외국에 왔기 때문에 선물을 사면 오히려 돈도 많이 나가요(웃음). 그래서 정말 잘해야 한다는 생각을 했어요. 작년 WCG에서 준우승하고 죽을 것 같았어요. 왜 내가 술을 먹었을까 싶었어요. (박)찬수 형하고 술은 똑같이 먹었는데 저는 술이 늦게 올라왔어요. 찬수 형은 경기 직전에 딱 깨더라고요(웃음).

▲ 이제동=나도 그때 먹었잖아.

▲ 송병구=그래도 저번에 IEF 2009에서 우승을 해서 이번에는 부담이 적어요. 핸드폰을 사고 싶은데 그것 살 돈만 벌어가자는 생각?(웃음).



- 중국에 오니 어떤가? 팬들의 반응도 굉장히 뜨거운데

▲ 송병구=유럽, 아시아, 미국까지 아프리카를 빼고는 모두 가봤어요. 중국은 이상하게 아시아라서 호응도도 별로일 것으로 생각했는데 장난이 아니더라고요. 제가 알던 아시아가 아니에요. 한국 사람들은 입 안벌리고 박수만 치는데 중국 사람들은 아니었어요. 놀랐어요.

▲ 이제동=저도 많이 놀랐어요. 경기장에 그냥 들어가고 있었는데 갑자기 저글링처럼 막 몰려오는 거에요. 갑자기 둘러 쌓여서 팔도 잡히고 그랬어요. 처음 당해봤어요. 당황하기는 했는데 한편으로는 기분도 좋고, 해외 팬들이 많아서 한국과는 다른 느낌을 받았어요.

▲ 김택용=저는 아직 느껴보지 못했어요. 잘 모르겠지만 내가 느꼈던 중국 팬들은 스타크래프트보다 워크래프트3에 관심이 많았던 것 같아요. 작년에 중국에 왔을 때 워크래프트3에 쏟아지는 관심을 실감했죠. 내일 워크래프트3 인기 선수들이 나오는데 그 선수들이 경기를 할 때 돌아다니려고요(웃음).







▶ 송병구-이제동-김택용의 이야기

현재 최강의 프로게이머를 꼽으라면 송병구, 이제동, 김택용은 필수적으로 거론된다. 이 세 선수가 모이면 어떤 이야기가 나올까? 김택용은 송병구-이제동에게, 송병구가 김택용-이제동에게, 이제동이 송병구-김택용에게.



- 서로에게 부러운 것이 있다면 무엇일까

▲ 송병구=저는 다 부러워요. 커리어가 부러운 것이 아니라 제가 점점 부진해지고 있잖아요. 하지만 얘들은 계속 성적이 올라가고 있죠. (이)영호도 포함해서요. 실력 자체가 그냥 부러워요. 실력만 따라가면 성적은 따라오는 것이니까요.

▲ 이제동=부러운 것들이 있죠. 정말 잘 이기는 선수들인 것 같아요. 저는 경기에 나갈 때 스트레스를 많이 받는 편이에요. 요즘에는 주위 환경 때문에 성적이 부진한 것 같은데 저도 요즘은 힘든 시기인 것 같아요. 요즘 팀과 함께 성적을 잘내고 있는 선수들이 부러워요. 그런데 병구 형은...(웃음). SK텔레콤 같은 경우는 성적이 좋아서 부럽죠.

▲ 김택용=개인리그 우승을 못한지 1년이 넘은 것 같아요. 지금은 실력이 부족하다고 느끼기 때문에 다시 실력을 끌어올려야 한다고 생각해요. 그런 것들을 부러워 할 때가 아닌 것 같아요. 일단 개인리그 예선부터 다시 뚫어야 해요(웃음).







- 송병구의 적극적인 대인관계가 부럽지는 않나

▲ 송병구=인맥에 대한 중요성을 몰랐던 때가 있었어요. 그런데 그 중요성을 깨닫고 친한척을 하려고 노력을 많이 해요. 어디가든 친하다고 떠벌리기도 해요. 그렇게 말했을 때 상대방에서 안 친하다고 말하면 큰일나죠. 하지만 아닌 경우에는 빨리 친해져요. 택용이가 그랬어요(웃음). 택용이하고 친하다고 말했는데 택용이도 인터뷰로 친하다고 말을 해줬죠. 올드 프로게이머들과는 다르게 우리는 거의 만나기가 힘들죠. 경기장에서도 적으로 만나는 경우가 많죠. 그럼에도 불구하고 저는 친하다고 말해요(웃음).

▲ 김택용=성격이 정말 좋은 것 같아요. 나도 나쁘지는 않은데 병구 형은 너무 좋아요. 따라하기가 힘들지도 몰라요.

▲ 이제동=친해져야죠(웃음).

▲ 송병구=우리 팀원들에게 들은 제동이는 이 모습이 아닌데(웃음). 너 (차)명환이하고도 금방 친해졌잖아.

▲ 이제동=이번에 중국에 오면서 김택용 선수랑 친해져야겠다는 생각을 하기는 했어요.

▲ 송병구=여기에 술이 있어야 해(웃음).

▲ 김택용=감독님이랑 같이 와서 그래(웃음). 비행기라도 같이 타고 왔으면 이야기도 많이 할 수 있고 그러면서 많이 친해졌을텐데 아쉬워요.



- 만약 이제동과 김택용이 같은 방을 썼다면 많이 친해지지 않았을까

▲ 이제동=그랬다면 친해졌겠죠. 같은 방을 썼는데도 안 친해지면 큰일이죠.

▲ 송병구=그냥 셋이서 같이 잘까? 나는 방바닥에서 자도 괜찮아(웃음).

▲ 이제동=친해질 생각이 있어요.

▲ 김택용=저도 생각은 있어요. 중요한 것은 이야기를 많이 하지 못한다는 것이에요. 배틀넷에서 보기도 힘들고, 저도 잘 안들어가니까요.

▲ 이제동=저는 메신저를 하지 않아요(웃음). 그냥 제가 안하는 거에요.



- 과거 4대 천왕을 비롯해서 올드 프로게이머들은 서로 굉장히 친했는데

▲ 송병구=(고개를 끄덕이며)부러워요. 저는 사람을 만나는 것이 귀찮았던 때가 있었는데 (박)정석이 형이랑 스타리그도 하고 밥도 먹는 기회가 있었어요. 정말 좋더라고요. 우리도 그랬으면 좋겠는데 팀 시스템이나 일정 때문에 많이 힘들어요. 편하게 만나는 장소는 개인리그가 유일해요.



- 만약 이제동-송병구-김택용이 같은 팀이라면 어떨 것 같은지

▲ 이제동=너무 행복할 것 같아요. 너무 좋을 것 같아요. 정말 든든하면서 예전에 e스포츠의 레알마드리드로 불리던 KTF처럼 스타 군단의 느낌을 받을 수 있을 것 같아요.

▲ 김택용=우리 셋이 한 팀이라면 몇 연승을 할 수 있을지 궁금해요. 엄청난 관심이 우리 팀에 몰리지 않을까요? 현실적으로 가능할 수도 있죠. FA를 선언하고 같은 팀에 들어간다거나, 갑자기 어떤 대기업이 들어와 팀을 창단하는 기회가 온다면 같은 팀이 될 수도 있죠.



- '택뱅리쌍' 본인이 최강이라고 생각해본 적이 있나

▲ 송병구=그런 생각을 해본 적이 없었어요. 개인리그 우승이 없을 때에는 프로리그에서 잘했고, 프로리그에서 못할 때는 개인리그에서 잘했죠. 얘들과 같이 거론되는 것 자체가 좋아요.

▲ 김택용=너무 겸손해(웃음).

▲ 송병구=현실적이죠.

▲ 이제동=일리가 있는 것 같아요. 제가 이런 입장이 되고...

▲ 송병구=이런 입장이라니(흐흐흐).

▲ 이제동=내가 부진한 상황인데 그런 묶음에 들어가게 되면 더 자극받게 되고 분발하게 되죠. 저는 이해할 수 있어요.

▲ 송병구=저는 잠깐 잘하는 선수들과 묶이는 것이 아니라 계속 잘하는 선수들과 꾸준히 묶어주니까 너무 좋죠.



- 최근 택뱅리쌍 중 가장 잘하는 선수가 누구라고 생각하나

▲ 이제동=최근에는 (이)영호가 가장 잘하는 것 같아요. 분위기를 타고 있죠. 저는 제가 최고라고 언제나 생각했고, 지금도 그 생각에는 변함이 없어요. 하지만 자신있게 말할 수는 없어요. 결과는 결국 성적이니까요.

▲ 김택용=넷 중에는 제가 제일 떨어지지 않나 싶어요.

▲ 송병구=아, 너가 그렇게 말하면 난 어떡해!

▲ 김택용=지금 상황이 그래요(웃음). 우승 횟수가 많기는 하지만 제동이한테 밀리고 최근에는 개인리그 예선에도 갔고(웃음).

▲ 송병구=나는 준우승 최강. (홍)진호형 다음으로 최강(웃음). 저도 제가 최고라는 생각을 했던 적이 있어요. 하지만 질문이 '최근'이잖아요. 최근에 안 좋은 일을 당한 사람은 저 밖에 없는 것 같아요. 얘들은 무슨 말인지 다 알거에요.



- 서로에게 부러운 것들이 있다면 무엇일까

▲ 송병구=제동이는 춤을 잘 추는 것이 부러워요. 저는 춤 자체를 추려고를 하지 않아요. 그리고 둘다 노래도 잘하는 것 같아요. 이번에 와서 알았어요. 택용이는 노래 잘하던데요. 제동이는 동방신기 노래 부른 것 방송에 나왔죠. 예전에 (박)상익이 형이 휴가 나와서 노래방을 갔는데, 노래를 부르고 있는데 마이크를 빼앗았어요. 상익이 형이 진영수보다 노래 못하는 선수는 제가 처음이래요. 아, 영수 얘기는 비밀로 해주세요(웃음). 그리고 두 선수의 연봉? 얼마인지는 모르겠지만 저보다는 많을 것 같아요(웃음). 둘이 열심히 하는 마음가짐이 한결 같잖아요. 그 부분도 부러워요. 살도 잘 안찌는 것도 부러워요.

▲ 이제동=병구 형의 적극적인 대인관계가 부러워요. 활발하기도 하고(웃음). 낯을 가리지 않는 것 같아요.

▲ 송병구=나는 상대방이 나를 어떻게 생각하는지 생각을 안해. 상대가 나를 돌+아이로 봐도 나는 신경을 쓰지 않아. 우리 팀에 그거 최고는 이성은인데(웃음). 걔는 진짜 그런 것 신경 안써.

▲ 이제동=택용이는 임요환 선수와 같은 팀에서 활동하고 있는 것이 부러워요.

▲ 송병구=저도 그런 부분이 부러워요. SK텔레콤 T1은 e스포츠를 끌어 온 팀이잖아요. 그 중심에 있는 팀인데 그 팀의 마인드나 최연성 코치님, 임요환 선수 등과 함께 생활하고 있죠. 제가 우리 팀의 맏형인데 그런 것들이 부러울 정도죠.

▲ 이제동=그런 선수들과 함께 생활을 하면 좋은 말 많이 들을 것 같아요. 한마디 한마디가 큰 도움이 될 것 같아요.

▲ 김택용=저도 부러운 것이 많아요. 하지만 말할 수는 없어요(웃음).



- 예전 4대천왕과 지금의 택뱅리쌍을 비교하면 언제가 더 같은 시기에 큰 영향을 줬다고 생각하나

▲ 송병구=4대천왕이요. 그 분들이 있었기 때문에 지금의 우리가 있다고 생각해요. 저는 4대천왕 중에 같은 팀이 돼본 선수가 하나도 없어요. 그 분들과 같은 팀이 되면 좋을 것 같아요.

▲ 김택용=옛날 4대천왕 때가 더 재미있었던 것 같아요. 지금은 흥미요소가 예전보다 줄어들었다고 생각해요. 예전에는 한 명이 정말 잘하고, 새로운 것들을 보여주고 그런 것들이 있었는데 지금은 그렇게 하기가 힘들죠. 다들 비슷하고, 새로운 것도 나오기 힘들죠. 흥미거리가 적어진 것이 요즘이에요.

▲ 이제동=저도 비슷한 생각이에요. 요즘 선수들도 다들 그렇게 생각하지 않을까요. 그리고 그렇게 생각해야 되는 것이죠.







- 팬들 사이에는 본좌론과 5대 본좌 이야기가 화제다. 여기에 대한 생각은 어떤지

▲ 송병구=솔직히 나와 (이)영호가 좀 빠져 나가고 제동이, 택용이 얘기죠. 제 팬들이 꼭 영호를 같이 끌고 나가려고 하던데(웃음). 저는 5대 본좌가 안 생길 것 같아요. 새롭게 출시되는 다른 게임이 지금의 스타크래프트처럼 되면 나올지도 모르죠. 더 이상 스타크래프트에서는 본좌가 나올 수 있는 상황이 아니라고 봐요.

▲ 이제동=저는 그런 말 자체가 싫어요. 본좌라는 말은 안 좋은 것 같아요. 개인적으로 5대 본좌가 된다고 해도 좋아하지 않을 것 같아요. 무의미한 논쟁이라고 생각해요. 본좌라면 혼자서 정상에 서 있다는 뜻인데, 그렇게 되면 엄청난 도전을 받겠죠. 생기지도 않을 것 같고 저는 관심도 없어요. 잘하는 선수들끼리 서로 경쟁하는 것이 좋아요. 제가 본좌가 되기보다는 그냥 지금처럼 택뱅리쌍으로 묶여서 서로 경쟁하면서 발전해나가는 과정이 좋아요.

▲ 김택용=그 뜻, 정의가 뭔지 잘 모르겠어요. 팬들이 어떻게 생각하고 어떤 기준으로 결론을 내리시는지 모르겠어요. 팬들은 재미있어하고 있지만 저 같은 경우는 꾸준히 잘하고 싶은 마음 밖에 없어요.



- 김택용이 송병구, 이제동에게 해주고 싶은 말이 있다면

▲ 김택용=병구 형은 굉장히 좋은 형이에요. 모든 사람들이 배울 만한 점이 많아요. 더 지내다보면 신기한 것(?)이 많이 나올 것 같아요. 그리고 지금 꾸준히 잘하고 있는 점도 좋아요. 이제동 선수는 알아서 잘하시죠. 그래서 딱히 할 말은 없지만, 지금 e스포츠 랭킹 1위시고 판을 이끌어가는 선수라고 생각해요. 앞으로도 알아서 잘하실 것으로 믿어요.



- 이제동이 김택용, 송병구에게 해주고 싶은 말이 있다면

▲ 이제동=김택용 선수가 내일 WCG에서 잘했으면 좋겠어요. 오늘 경기를 해보니까 조금 걱정이 되기도 해요(웃음). 병구 형은 게임도 잘하는데 자꾸 자기가 못하는 줄 알아요. 병구 형은 스스로 자신을 낮춰요. 저는 굉장히 잘하는 선수라고 생각해요. 더욱 자신감을 가졌으면 좋겠어요.



- 송병구가 이제동, 김택용에게 해주고 싶은 말이 있다면

▲ 송병구=저는 얘네 둘을 보면 뭐하고 사는지를 모르겠어요. 연락도 안되고 배틀넷에도 안 들어와요. 프로필을 찍어보면 최근 전적이 7월이에요. 정말 열심히 할 것이라는 생각에 스스로 반성하기도 하죠. 둘이 잘해서 제가 따라갈 수 있는 목표를 계속 제시해주길 바라요. 그리고 둘이 친해지려면 역시 '술'이 최고죠.



- 마지막으로 꼭 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 자유롭게 해달라

▲ 송병구=감독님이 요즘 목소리가 안 좋아요. 2007년처럼 팀을 이끌 수 있게 열심히 할께요. 이번에 유일하게 중국에 왔을 때 연락해준 사람이 감독님이었어요(웃음).

▲ 김택용=앞으로 이런 기회가 자주 있었으면 좋겠어요(웃음).





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Phew, that took a long time! Sorry about my absence, I watched another anime series. I will use this WCG week to catch up on the missing interviews.



As always, thanks for reading



*Jaedong said, as he finished his first game, that his opponent changed from Zerg to Protoss during the countdown and when he saw the gateway, he panicked and tried to do something with 6 Zerglings. The game ended with those 6 lings, Jaedong killed all the zealots and probes with them, and he commented "It felt like I was playing against a Computer"

▶ Bisu-Jaedong, become friends.Finally Jaedong-Bisu-Stork gathered in one place. Bisu and Jaedong looked awkward with each other unlike Stork. Stork said that he was good friends with Jaedong and Bisu but Jaedong and Bisu had no chance to become friends with each other. So the interview naturally started with talking about Jaedong and Bisu.- The three of you probably never met together before, how is it?▲ Stork= We met during the group selections. I met Bisu personally but I only saw Jaedong when I went to practice at the Hwaseung house. I'm friendly with both of them, so I'm happy.▲ Jaedong= I'm happy too. I'm not that friendly with Bisu yet so it's a little difficult, but I'm still happy. I like having an interview with such great players. I didn't have a chance go become friends with Bisu before.▲ Bisu= I'm happy but I feel a little suppressed because they're such great players (laughs).- Bisu and Jaedong didn't have a chance to become friends yet?▲ Jaedong= I think that's the right way to put it.▲ Bisu= We had an interview together before.▲ Stork= I remember it too, I think I said that my wish was being able to sleep a lot.▲ Jaedong= I said some things for the concept of that interview (laughs).▲ Bisu= I haven't seen him on battle.net. We don't have much chance to practice with each other either.▲ Stork= Both Bisu and Jaedong don't go on battle.net often, but when Bisu comes on he stays for a while. Jaedong goes on and off.- Do you think Jaedong and Bisu can be friends from now?▲ Stork= They'll do fine (laughs). I think they'll be good friends.- I think Bisu and Jaedong can become friends through practicing with each other▲ Jaedong= I'd be happy to practice with him. It would be nice to practice with him but it's difficult to practice with other teams.▲ Bisu= I'd be happy too (laugh).▶ Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang and WCG under Taek-Bang-Lee's eyesThe term Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang began to be used in e-sports a lot. The four progamers Bisu-Stork-Jaedong- Flash are leading the e-sports scene as the top players, and three of them has made it to the WCG Grand Finals.- How do you feel when you hear the term Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang?▲ Stork= Everyone went to the finals and won? I got the 2nd place three times and that was to Bisu, Jaedong, and Flash. I saw a lot of comments asking why my name is in there (laughs).▲ Jaedong= I was happy. There was the term 4 Great Kings (I don't know the official term, Reach ), and I'm happy that I'm in the term that represents this era's great players.▲ Bisu= I think I'm doing the worst out of the four right now. I'm honored that I'm being called that. I think I need to play better.- Let's talk about WCG. People say that this is the best Korean lineup ever.▲ Stork= I'm happy to hear that. I like the term "best ever" because it means that we're accepted by the community.▲ Jaedong= Of course I'm happy too. Three great players were picked.▲ Bisu= Although a Korean player will probably win the gold, we have to compete against each other. I wish the format was 3:3 proleague style or 3:3 team battle.▲ Stork= That'd be awesome (laughs).▲ Jaedong= I think that format would be good for Warcraft III.▲ Stork= You're right. StarCraft players will all want to go first and all-kill.- How does it feel coming to China?▲ It's not awkward for me because I came last year. I think it's the same as IEF 2008, but I feel a little pressured because the two other players won their groups with all wins.- Jaedong lost to Stork in the last WCG.▲ Jaedong= That hurt back then, but I forgot about it. I don't remember that well and one of us had to lose, and I think it might have been better that Stork won. I want to do better this time, but it's not like I want revenge. We already played a lot in the individual leagues.- Stork seems to play well in the international matches▲ Stork= I played in both WCG and IEF last year in a small time frame. I feel like I'm going to die if I don't do well in an international tournament (laughs). I can't speak English, and if I lose I don't get money and I lose money from spending on gifts (laughs). That's why I always try to do well. I felt like dying after getting 2nd place in WCG last year. I thought to myself why I drank before. Luxury hyung drank with me too but he got sober right before the match (laughs).▲ Jaedong= I drank too.▲ Stork= I'm pressured less this time because I won IEF this year. I want to buy a new phone and I want to earn enough to buy one (laughs).- How does it feel to come to China? There are a lot of fans.▲ Stork= Europe, Asia, America, I went to everywhere but Africa. I thought there would be less fans in China because it's in Asia but I was wrong. Korean people just clap with their mouth closed but the Chinese people were different. I was surprised.▲ Jaedong= I was surprised too. I was entering the stadium and they swarmed on me like Zerglings. I was surrounded and they grabbed my arm. I panicked, but I was happy. There were a lot of foreign fans and it felt different from Korea.▲ Bisu= I haven't felt that yet. I think Chinese fans were more interested in Warcraft III than StarCraft. Famous WarCraft III players are playing tomorrow and I think I'll move around when they're playing (laughs).▶ The Story of Stork-Jaedong-BisuIf one is told to pick the best progamer today, Stork, Jaedong, and Bisu are definitely considered. What will these three players say when gathered together?- What are you envious of the other players?▲ Stork= Everything. Not their career, but I'm starting to slump, but these two are continuing to imrpove. Same with Flash. I'm envious of their skills.▲ Jaedong= I'm envious of some things. I think they win a lot. I get a lot of stress when I play. I think I'm doing worse lately because of my surroundings. I think this is a very hard time for me. I'm envious of the players that are doing well along with their team, but Stork... (laughs). I'm envious of SK Telecom because of their records.▲ Bisu= I think it's been more than 1 year since I won an individual league. I think I lack skill right now and I need to bring it up. I don't think it's time for me to be envious. First, I need to win the preliminaries for the individual leagues (laughs).- Are you envious of Stork being friendly with so many people?▲ Stork= There was I time when I didn't know about the importance of relationships. I realized that and I try to act friendly a lot. I say I'm friends with someone wherever I go, but sometimes the other person says we're not friends. I become friends quickly with that person if we're not friends yet, like I did with Bisu (laughs). I said I was friends with him on an interview and he said that he was friends with me on his interview. Unlike older progamers, it's hard for us to meet each other. When we meet, it's usually as enemies, but I still say we're friends (laughs).▲ Bisu= I think Stork has a very good personality. I don't have a bad one either but Stork's is too good. It's very difficult to copy what he does.▲ Jaedong= I have to becomes friends with him (laughs).▲ Stork= This is different from the Jaedong I heard from my teammates (laughs). You became friends with great quickly.▲ Jaedong= I thought that I should become friends with Bisu when I came here.▲ Stork= We need alcohol (laughs).▲ Bisu= It's because we came with our coaches (laughs). If we were on the same plane we could have talked a lot and became friends.- If Jaedong and Bisu used the same room, wouldn't they have become friends?▲ Jaedong= Yes, it would be very bad if we didn't become friends after sharing the same room.▲ Stork= Should we all sleep together? I don't mind sleeping on the floor (laughs).▲ Bisu= I have the intentions to become friends with JAedong but we don't talk a lot. It's hard to meet him on battle.net and I don't go on often either.▲ Jaedong= I don't use any instant messengers (laughs).- The older progamers were very friendly with each other▲ Stork= (nodding his head) I'm envious. I once ate with Reach hyung after OSL. It was very fun. I would like for us to do that too but it's hard because of the team systems and schedules. The only place we can see each other comfortably is during individual leagues.- How would you feel if Jaedong-Stork-Bisu were on the same team?▲ Jaedong= I would be very happy. It would be so good. I wouldn't be pressured and I think I would understand how it felt like to be part of the KTF's Star Lineup that was once called the Real Madrid of e-sports.▲ Bisu= If we were on the same team I wonder how many win streak we could get. I think everyone would watch our team. It could be possible. We could go in the same team after declaring FA or we could go to a team if a large corporation decides to create a team.- Have you ever thought that Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang was the best?▲ Stork= I never thought of that before. The others did well in Proleague when they didn't do well in individual leagues and did well in individual leagues when they did badly in proleague. I'm just happy my name is discussed along with the other three.▲ Bisu= You're too humble (laughs).▲ Stork= I'm being realistic.▲ Jaedong= I think I can understand what he's saying because of my situation.▲ Stork= Your situation? (laughs).▲ Jaedong= I'm not doing well lately and I get pressured by the other three to do better. I can understand what he is saying.▲ Stork= I'm happy that my name is tied with players that do consistently well.- Who do you think is the best out of you four nowadays?▲ Jaedong= I think Flash. He's riding the momentum. I always thought I was the best, and it hasn't changed, but I can't feel too confident now. The results are what matters.▲ Bisu= I think I'm the worst out of the four.▲ Stork= What does that make me?▲ Bisu= I think it's true (laughs). I have a lot of league titles but Jaedong has more and I fell the the preliminaries of OSL (laughs).▲ Stork= I'm the best at 2nd place... after Yellow hyung (laughs). I once thought I was the best too, but the question is "now". I think the only person to experience something bad recently was me. I think these two know what I'm saying.- What are you envious of the other players? (way to ask the same question twice)▲ Stork= I'm envious of Jaedong dancing very well. I don't try to dance. I also think the other two are good at singing. Bisu is really good at singing. Jaedong singing DBSK was on TV. When TheWinD hyung came out for vacation I went to a karaoke place with him and he said the only person to be worse at singing than Hwasin was me. Oh, keep what I said about Hwasin a secret (laughs). Also I think the other two players get paid more than I do (laughs). They both try their best. I'm envious of that too, and that they don't get fat.▲ Jaedong= I'm envious of Stork's relationships and his liveliness (laughs). I don't think he's awkward with anyone▲ Stork= I don't think about what other people think of me. I don't care if they think I'm insane. firebathero is the best at that on our team (laughs). He really doesn't care about what other people think.▲ Jaedong= I'm envious of Bisu because he gets to be on the same team as Boxer.▲ Stork= I'm envious of that too. SK Telecom T1 is a team that led e-sports. It's the team at the center and he lives with iloveoov and boxer. I'm the oldest in my team.▲ Jaedong= I think you can learn a lot from living with such players▲ Bisu= I also am envious of a lot of things but I can't say (laughs).- if you compare Bisu-Stork-Jaedong-Flash to Boxer-Yellow-Nada-Reach, which do you think had more impact?▲ Stork= The old players. Without them, we wouldn't be here. I wasn't able to be on the same team as any of those four players. I think it would be nice to be on the same team as one of those players.▲ Bisu= I think it was more fun back then. I think the games are less entertaining now. Back then, one player did really well and showed new things, but it's hard to do that now. Everyone's at the same level, and it's hard to try something new.▲ Jaedong= I think that too. I think all the players now think that way.- The fans are debating about the 5th bonjwa. What are your thoughts?▲ Stork= Truthfully, Flash and I aren't in the discussion, it's about Jaedong and Bisu. My fans try to put Flash in there though (laughs). I don't think there will be a 5th bonjwa. Maybe if another game becomes like StarCraft now, but there will not be another bonjwa in StarCraft.▲ Jaedong= I don't like that discussion at all. I don't think bonjwa is a good term. I won't be happy even if I become the 5th bonjwa. I think it's pointless. It means that you alone are at the top, but then that means a lot of competitors trying to take your spot. I don't think it will happen and I don't care about it. I like competing between good players. I think it's better to continue to evolve as Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang rather than someone becoming a bonjwa.▲ Bisu= I don't know the definition of the term. I don't know what standards the fans use to decide. The fans may have fun discussing it, but I just want to do consistently well.- If Bisu had to say something to Stork and Jaedong▲ Bisu= Stork is a great hyung. There are a lot of things people can learn from him. I also like that he does consistently well. Jaedong does well by himself, so I don't have much to say aobut him, but he's #1 in KeSPA ranking and he is leading e-sports. I trust that you will continue to do well.- If Jaedong had to say something to Bisu and Stork▲ Jaedong= I hope Bisu does well in WCG tomorrow. I'm a little worried after playing today (laughs). Stork plays really well but thinks he is bad. He humbles himself. I think he's a very good player. I hope he gains more confidence.- If Stork had to say something to Jaedong and Bisu▲ Stork= When I look at these two, I have no idea what they do with their time. I can't contact them and they don't come on battle.net. If I look at their profile their last game was from July. I think of it as they're trying their best and start worrying about myself. I hope they continue to do well so I can set them as my goal. Also, drinking together is the best way to become friends.- Anything else you want to say?▲ Stork= Our coach's voice is bad lately. I will try my best to lead our team like we did in 2007. She was the only person to contact me when I came to China (laughs).▲ Bisu= I hope we get a lot of chances like this in the future (laughs).Source: Fomos.kr Phew, that took a long time! Sorry about my absence, I watched another anime series. I will use this WCG week to catch up on the missing interviews.As always, thanks for reading*Jaedong said, as he finished his first game, that his opponent changed from Zerg to Protoss during the countdown and when he saw the gateway, he panicked and tried to do something with 6 Zerglings. The game ended with those 6 lings, Jaedong killed all the zealots and probes with them, and he commented "It felt like I was playing against a Computer" Writer