During MSNBC’s Bernie Sanders town hall at the Ohio State University, Chuck Todd asked Sanders about the “enthusiasm gap.” Sen. Sanders rejected Todd’s Republican talking point premise and told the truth about Democratic turnout.

Transcript via MSNBC:

CHUCK TODD:

You’ve talked about your campaign as a revolution. The turnout excitement that’s happening on the Republican side hasn’t happened on the Democratic side. We haven’t seen the high turnout numbers that you’ve wanted.

BERNIE SANDERS:

No, that is absolutely incorrect.

(OVERTALK)

BERNIE SANDERS:

The numbers are very clear. We had– look, when you talk about that, you’re comparing us to 2008 and Barack Obama, all right? Barack Obama ran a campaign that was unbelievable. It was one of the great campaigns in American history, all right? But you know what? Despite that, h–

CHUCK TODD:

A revolution?

BERNIE SANDERS:

Well, in terms of the nature of his campaign, the turnout was off the wall. Iowa, they ran out of ballots, you remember that. All right, so let’s talk about it. In Kansas, actually the numbers in the Kansas caucus were higher this year than they were in 2008. In Maine, they were higher. In Michigan, it was the highest turnout since 1972.

Colorado, I think it didn’t break the record, it came pretty close. So in fact– if you only want to compare us to 2008, which was the exception, okay. But in fact, the turnouts have been extraordinary in this campaign, and I’m proud of them.