"My first job, it's embarrassing to admit a little bit, I coached camps and stuff like that growing up, you know, at my high school. But I was very fortunate to get right in with the Bucs. I was basically an assistant to the quality control. I was in the quality control, so running errands, doing everything you can. And you think back to that, and to be able to get involved right when you finish playing in college, working in the NFL, working under Jon Gruden, being around some of these great coaches that I've been exposed to, it's almost embarrassing to admit, but that was a real blessing for me. And I really should probably thank my grandpa [John McVay] for that."