Author Topic: Fight Club

Paul Konen

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posted 10-14-1999 11:32 AM OK, I started this to see if you had the same things happen. Was there a scene when it looked like the film was getting off track and showing sprocket holes. Brad stayed clear but everything else was out of focus and could see sprocket holes. I think it was just the movie. What did anyone else see. It was kinda weird and gross in places. Don't think it will last too long. Keep those mops handy and install an airsickness bag on the back of the theatre chairs. Paul Konen

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John Pytlak

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posted 10-14-1999 01:37 PM Were the sprocket holes clear or black? If they were clear, it sounds like the print was mispositioned in the gate of the projector, and then jumped back into place. If the sprocket holes are black, it sounds like the print film jumped off the sprocket in the printer, and then got back on. Did the film jump out of frame? Look at the print itself on a rewind. If the image shows what you saw on the screen, it is likely the print film jumped off the printer sprocket and back on again. Note that the lab prints the soundtracks and the picture as two separate originals on two separate sprockets, so only one is likely to be affected in this way. Jumping the printer sprocket would be a one-of-a-kind incident, and you can ask the lab for a new reel. ------------------

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Brad Miller

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posted 10-14-1999 03:30 PM It was an effect. The same shot was also in the trailer. Nothing wrong with the equipment or print. I did find it nice that for once, the correct "4 perfs" was displayed. Seems every time there is an effect, it is technically wrong. Even that last Kodak ad had 6 perf film in it. Did anyone panic when Gremins 2 burned? On video it is a HORRIBLY fake video glitch, but in the theater that scene was the film jamming and burning in the gate.

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Paul Konen

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posted 10-14-1999 04:34 PM This scene that I described made me panic. Nothing like jumping up and saying expletives as you try to run up to the booth and see if something is wrong.

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Scott Norwood

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posted 10-14-1999 06:00 PM Regarding "scenes that make projectionists panic," I'll add a couple more: the opening scene, complete with terrible-sounding music, in "Clockwork Orange" (the scene that was almost exactly copied in "Reservoir Dogs")...I checked the sound drum tension several times during that one...also, there are a couple of Looney Toons cartoon shorts that have a fake "hair in the gate" which is "plucked" out by one of the characters (I remember one with Daffy Duck...there may be others).

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Mike Blakesley

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posted 10-14-1999 06:38 PM The "Gremlins 2" film burn got me! I was in the downstairs office (from which I can see the screen) when it happened and raced up the stairs, had my hand on the booth door handle when the gremlins started giggling...I still remember it to this day, hearing myself saying "little bastards!"

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Aaron Sisemore

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posted 10-14-1999 07:33 PM And there's the fake film break in 'George Of The Jungle' that got my undivided attention... Aaron



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Gordon McLeod

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posted 10-14-1999 08:21 PM The film break at the end of reel one of The Projectionist got me once

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Rick Long

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posted 10-14-1999 10:44 PM The break in the original "Muppets" movie made me run to the booth until the muppet "Chef" reported that "the flim go flip,flip,flip".

Shortly after, he reported that "The flim is okie-dokie".

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Brad Miller

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posted 10-15-1999 03:46 AM By the way, I can't believe the people who made "Fight Club" released the secret of the cue marks!!! There will be thousands of people who will now know what those are and will unfortunately never be able to watch a film again without seeing that distraction! No one ever notices the marks until they are pointed out. What a terrible thing to do.



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Ian Price

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posted 10-15-1999 09:34 AM Gordon, The Projectionist, is that the one with Roddney Dangerfield as the really bad theatre manager? God that movie made me depressed. I always knew that all our old union projectionists were nuts but when I saw that film I knew that I had to get out of the booth for a while.



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Gordon McLeod

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posted 10-15-1999 09:56 AM Yes that is Rodeny's movie

Changeover cue marks secret were unveiled in two Columbo mysteries where the alibi for the murderer was they were in the booth doing a changeover. The penny trick was also flaunted around in it (which doesn't work) and Columbo actually made a changeover



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Randy Stankey

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posted 10-15-1999 03:01 PM The guy's a projectionist and his mind is having a brain wrap.... Get it? I think the part where he splices-in the 'porno frames' was funny. I've never heard cue marks called 'cigarette burns' before.

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Rick Long

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posted 10-15-1999 03:05 PM Brad is so right when he points out the unkind act of showing people all about cue marks. Not long ago while visiting family in Peterborough, I bumped into an usher I knew back at the Drive-In, years before. "You bastard" he yelled, "since you showed me those circles on the film, I always see'em, can't ignore them." We settled old differences over a couple of beers while I explained the difference between flat and scope (and how he should demand a lower admission price for a flat movie). I imagine next time, he'll be carrying a baseball bat.

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