Book-flogging former White House aide and Apprentice villain Omarosa Manigault-Newman continued her tour d’tapes on the Today show on Monday morning, playing a recorded phone call she says she had with President Donald Trump after John Kelly fired her.

#Breaking: @OMAROSA provides @NBCNews with this exclusive excerpt of a recording of a phone call that she says she received from President Trump the day after White House Chief of Staff John Kelly fired her. pic.twitter.com/OJe47RdcDC — TODAY (@TODAYshow) August 13, 2018

The phone call—if it was really recorded the day after her firing—indicates that Trump doesn’t necessarily have the best handle on the goings-on with his staff, or that he is willing to lie to avoid confronting them. He says, “Omarosa, what’s going on? I just saw on the news that you’re thinking about leaving?” When Omarosa says that chief of staff John Kelly had told her that he wanted her to leave, Trump responded, “You know, they run a big operation, but I didn’t know it, I didn’t know that. Goddamn it!”

“This is a White House where everybody lies … I had to protect myself and I have no regret about it,” she said on Meet the Press on Saturday in an interview during which she released a secretly recorded tape of Kelly firing her.

This marks at least the second either senior White House staffer or Trump confidante to have surreptitiously recorded the then candidate or president. Last month, CNN published a tape—recorded during the 2016 election—of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and Trump discussing a possible payoff to keep Karen McDougal, a Playboy model, from talking publicly about an alleged extramarital affair with Trump.

Trump tweeted on Monday morning that Omarosa was objectively a bad employee and that Kelly wanted to fire her when he became chief of staff, but that Trump told him to “try working it out” because she spoke well of the president.

Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time. She never made it, never will. She begged me for a job, tears in her eyes, I said Ok. People in the White House hated her. She was vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see her but heard.... — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 13, 2018

...really bad things. Nasty to people & would constantly miss meetings & work. When Gen. Kelly came on board he told me she was a loser & nothing but problems. I told him to try working it out, if possible, because she only said GREAT things about me - until she got fired! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 13, 2018