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Last edit: June 15, 2013, 01:54:13 PM by rpietila #1 Hi, this thread is dedicated to the second of my great pillars on how to support Bitcoin in 2013 - The Supernode



It is best to think of this as a very real instance of a Alternate Reality Live Action Role Play buying bitcoins , start to act as if they had tremendous value (which will cause them to have the value) and take your role as a Nobleman or Freeman! The power is there for grabs!



The registration fee is 0.5% of your bitcoins and that already buys you many things. We literally divide the world among us. Be prepared to spend 5% of your bitcoins annually on the game - flight, hotel and restaurant expenses, general living according to your lot, meetups and other marketing. Note: You are also expected to setup bitcoin businesses and you will have the chance to make the money back with interest. If not, at least the 95% are very much more valuable because of the interest you have been keeping up with the Supernode lifestyle.





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Bitcoin Capability Classification (BCC) is a general scale for classifying the capability of people in the Bitcoinworld. The system is logarithmic. It encompasses the previous Supernode classification.



ULTRANODES

00-05 unestablished regal titles (one or more)

06-10 Duke (approx. min. 10,000,000m BTC and behaves like that)



HYPERNODES

11-15 Prince (approx. min. 3,000,000m BTC and behaves like that)

16-20 Marquis (approx. min. 1,000,000m BTC and behaves like that)



SUPERNODES

21-25 Earl (approx. min. 300,000m BTC and behaves like that)

26-30 Viscount (approx. min. 100,000m BTC and behaves like that)



Everything above this will collectively be called "Supernodes". Everything below this will never be called "Supernodes" so make sure to acquire and hold the 100 bitcoins required, if you want to be numbered in the Register of Supernodes! Now they are so cheap. Bitcoins, I mean.



MININODES

31-35 Baron (approx. min. 30,000m BTC and behaves like that)

36-40 Baronet (approx. min. 10,000m BTC and behaves like that)

41-45 Knight (approx. min. 3,000m BTC and behaves like that)



FREEMEN

46-50 Freeman 1st class (approx. min. 1,000m BTC )

51-55 Freeman 2nd class (approx. min. 300m BTC )

56-60 Freeman 3rd class (approx. min. 100m BTC )

61-65 Freeman 4th class (approx. min. 30m BTC )

66-70 Freeman 5th class (approx. min. 10m BTC

71-75 Freeman 6th class (approx. min. 3m BTC



These guys (above) are about 300 million in number, and hold more bitcoins than an average person in the world. More than 90% of the coins will be held by them, so the inequality of distribution of liquid wealth will stay, should minicoin reach $300 quickly.



76-80 Freeman 7th class (approx. min. 1m BTC

81-85 Freeman 8th class (approx. min. 0.3 BTC

86-90 Freeman 9th class (approx. min. 0.1 BTC

91-95 Freeman 10th class (less than 0.1m BTC but can take care of himself)



THE DESTITUTE

96-100 The Destitute



People who are destitute cannot take care of themselves, for which reason the other must take care of them. It depends on the climate, political system (e.g. minimum wage), relative living standard and acceptable living standard for a destitute, how many there are. It can be up to 20% but can be as few as 2% of the population, how many are destitute. Currently even "the destitute" in Finland can typically buy several hundreds or thousands m BTC with different kinds of social aid. After a few months they are very well off. But we will have another group of destitutes soon when the Government money runs out.

::END::



My previous developments on the matter:

Quote Apr 22:

First Class Bitcoin Supernode



- Sovereign ability to run, manage and develop the Bitcoin network in absence of any other entities.

- 24/7 monitoring, technical, and trading ability, connections with most relevant Bitcoin power centers, accounts in all relevant exchanges

- Global operation, capacity to set up activities in most jurisdictions with minimum lead times, access to all specialists (bankers, lawyers, tech) globally

- Able to generate its own funding indefinitely regardless of bitcoin exchange value, or backed by an entity wealthy enough to support the operations indefinitely in absence of cash flow from operations

- Minimum full-time staff in command&control structure: 5-10



Second Class Bitcoin Supernode



- Able to run, although probably not effectively develop, the Bitcoin network in absence of other entities. The end user of Bitcoin will notice if the service level falls to the second class. This will lead to delays and blackouts of important services.

- Real-time alerts in place to activate the relevant parts of the organization if something worth their effort happens in Bitcoinworld. Position management in multiple trading platforms, good connections to several other supernodes.

- Can project force to other jurisdictions, albeit with considerable effort and lead time

- Can function independently of external funding as long as Bitcoin's price does not totally collapse, (or has enough external funding to not care)

- Minimum number of dedicated permanent staff: 2-3



Third Class Bitcoin Supernode



- May or may not run a Bitcoin node, cannot likely summon the resources to fix the protocol if need be, may be entirely non-tech

- Actively follows what happens in Bitcoinworld. Reasonably well connected to at least some other supernodes.

- Mainly a local operation.

- Owns enough bitcoins, income-generating bitcoin or other businesses, or other assets, to continue operations at the desired level infinitely (note - the marginal cost of operation on this level is essentially zero)

- Minimum number of people: 1 part-time

- In order to be classified as a supernode, there either needs to be a good number of bitcoins in possession, mining capacity, bitcoin tradership, dealership or other business or publishing organisation.



Capability of a Supernode



The capability of a Bitcoin supernode can be expressed in a pseudologarithmic scale from 0.0 to 5.0., where

- 1.0 is an essentially perfect small operation

- 3.0 is the threshold of being classified as a supernode

- 5.0 is an interested newbie smart enough to understand the basics.



I have been trying to explain the transition of Bitcoin from the alpha/beta stage to the mainstream. I developed the supernode framework to give the reader some understanding of the magnitude of the change that we are undergoing. As I see it, any of the public power centers of Bitcoinworld, do not currently even qualify to the first class. This can be readily observed by the number of scams and hacks, and inadequate organizational and financial resources of most of the actors.



There are currently hundreds of organizations in the world, capable of developing a 1.0 supernode in 3-6 months, if they decide to enter in. None of the current (public) players possesses such an ability now, and even though many may be interested, their rate of capability increase (the time in days, to move one decimal in the supernode capability scale) is behind that of the potential new entrants.



2013 will be an interesting year, for the mainstream adoption and price appreciation of course, but also for some serious behind-the-scenes action. I realize that most people have a difficulty of understanding that bitcoin's price does not have a stable value between $0 and $300k (in fact I only myself realized it a week ago!), and because of this new understanding how the bitcoin power network functions, the probability of it going to zero is rather slim indeed.

Theand that already buys you many things. We literally divide the world among us. Be prepared toannually on the game - flight, hotel and restaurant expenses, general living according to your lot, meetups and other marketing. Note: You are also expected to setup bitcoin businesses and you will have the chance to make the money back with interest. If not, at least the 95% are very much more valuable because of the interest you have been keeping up with the Supernode lifestyle.is a general scale for classifying the capability of people in the Bitcoinworld. The system is logarithmic. It encompasses the previous Supernode classification.00-0506-10(approx. min. 10,000,000mand behaves like that)11-15(approx. min. 3,000,000mand behaves like that)16-20(approx. min. 1,000,000mand behaves like that)21-25(approx. min. 300,000mand behaves like that)26-30(approx. min. 100,000mand behaves like that)Everything above this will collectively be called "Supernodes".Now they are so cheap. Bitcoins, I mean.31-35(approx. min. 30,000mand behaves like that)36-40(approx. min. 10,000mand behaves like that)41-45(approx. min. 3,000mand behaves like that)46-50(approx. min. 1,000m51-55 Freeman 2nd class (approx. min. 300m56-60 Freeman 3rd class (approx. min. 100m61-65 Freeman 4th class (approx. min. 30m66-70 Freeman 5th class (approx. min. 10m71-75 Freeman 6th class (approx. min. 3mThese guys (above) are about 300 million in number, and hold more bitcoins than an average person in the world. More than 90% of the coins will be held by them, so the inequality of distribution of liquid wealth will stay, should minicoin reach $300 quickly.76-80 Freeman 7th class (approx. min. 1m81-85 Freeman 8th class (approx. min. 0.386-90 Freeman 9th class (approx. min. 0.191-95 Freeman 10th class (less than 0.1mbut can take care of himself)THE DESTITUTE96-100 The DestitutePeople who are destitute cannot take care of themselves, for which reason the other must take care of them. It depends on the climate, political system (e.g. minimum wage), relative living standard and acceptable living standard for a destitute, how many there are. It can be up to 20% but can be as few as 2% of the population, how many are destitute. Currently even "the destitute" in Finland can typically buy several hundreds or thousands mwith different kinds of social aid. After a few months they are very well off. But we will have another group of destitutes soon when the Government money runs out.::END::My previous developments on the matter: HIM TVA Dragon, AOK-GM, Emperor of the Earth , Creator of the World, King of Crypto Kingdom , Lord of Malla, AOD-GEN, SA-GEN5, Ministry of Plenty (Join NOW!) , Professor of Economics and Theology, Ph.D, AM, Chairman, Treasurer, Founder, CEO, 3*MG-2, 82*OHK, NKP, WTF, FFF, etc(x3)

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Do you want to just update your life? Start to live in the age of great men and great machines, intertwined with the modern communication technology. Then Bitcoin Supernode Game is for you. The more you buy bitcoins, the more important role you will have in the world, as bitcoin relentlessly rises above its true value of around $300k/m BTC and comes back. The Bitcoin Supernode Game eases in the transition - you are already acting as a ruler, so it is possible that you will be promoted even above your actual holdings when everybody sees that Bitcoin is the thing.



I do not currently know how long we need to play. The longer, the more fun. I personally think Bitcoin's rise will happen in violent episodes which see the price going up from (USD/ BTC is used for clarity) 0.06 to 0.36 (6x, 10-11/2010), 0.20 to 1.06 (5x, 12/2010-2/2011), 0.67 to 31.99 (46x, 4-6/2011), and 13.5 to 267 (20x, 1-4/2013). It is important to capture these supermoves, and because you don't know when a supermove will commence, you better stay all in all the time. We cannot get from 100 to 300000 in one supermove, that is for sure.



For the game, we need to decide the gamemaster team first. They will have somewhat different role than the players. Is there anyone who wants to join me?



The players will be noblemen in different levels. I cannot write a convincing story even though I have in mind, help me!!



Bitcoin Supernode Alternate Reality GameDo you want to? Start to live in the age of great men and great machines, intertwined with the modern communication technology. Then Bitcoin Supernode Game is for you. The more you buy bitcoins, the more important role you will have in the world, as bitcoin relentlessly rises above its true value of around $300k/mand comes back. The Bitcoin Supernode Game eases in the transition - you are already acting as a ruler, so it is possible that you will be promoted even above your actual holdings when everybody sees that Bitcoin is the thing.I do not currently know how long we need to play. The longer, the more fun. I personally think Bitcoin's rise will happen in violent episodes which see the price going up from (USD/is used for clarity) 0.06 to 0.36 (6x, 10-11/2010), 0.20 to 1.06 (5x, 12/2010-2/2011), 0.67 to 31.99 (46x, 4-6/2011), and 13.5 to 267 (20x, 1-4/2013). It is important to capture these supermoves, and because you don't know when a supermove will commence, you better stay all in all the time. We cannot get from 100 to 300000 in one supermove, that is for sure.For the game, we need to decide the gamemaster team first. They will have somewhat different role than the players. Is there anyone who wants to join me?The players will be noblemen in different levels. I cannot write a convincing story even though I have in mind, help me!! HIM TVA Dragon, AOK-GM, Emperor of the Earth , Creator of the World, King of Crypto Kingdom , Lord of Malla, AOD-GEN, SA-GEN5, Ministry of Plenty (Join NOW!) , Professor of Economics and Theology, Ph.D, AM, Chairman, Treasurer, Founder, CEO, 3*MG-2, 82*OHK, NKP, WTF, FFF, etc(x3)

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Rpietila supernode may be reactivated as follows: Rpietila summons a general supernode meeting. The invitation must provably be sent to the following people 168 hours prior to the scheduled opening time of the meeting (number of votes in parentheses): Paul (9), Erki ( , Frank (7), Jaakko (7), Iiro (7), Vesa (7), Lauri (6), Mikko (5), Roni (5), Heikki (4), Jochen (3), Taimar (3). After the minimum of 72 hours of uninterrupted deliberation (no other people except rpietila's staff with his permission may enter the area designated as secure), the participants present may vote for the reactivation of the supernode. Rpietila has no vote, but can veto the affirmative decision of the others (and they may set up a supernode themselves). Rpietila may deny partial attendance to the summit, it is all or nothing. The participants receive no compensation whatsoever, except room and board. Minimum 3 people except rpietila must be present to activate the supernode.



If 30 days elapses from the moment that rpietila has last made personal physical contact to minimum 3 of the above people simultaneously, earlier orders are in force. It does not matter what rpietila's condition is, as long as the others may enter and exit at will.

3. REACTIVATION OF RPIETILA SUPERNODERpietila supernode may be reactivated as follows: Rpietila summons a general supernode meeting. The invitation must provably be sent to the following people 168 hours prior to the scheduled opening time of the meeting (number of votes in parentheses): Paul (9), Erki (, Frank (7), Jaakko (7), Iiro (7), Vesa (7), Lauri (6), Mikko (5), Roni (5), Heikki (4), Jochen (3), Taimar (3). After the minimum of 72 hours of uninterrupted deliberation (no other people except rpietila's staff with his permission may enter the area designated as secure), the participants present may vote for the reactivation of the supernode. Rpietila has no vote, but can veto the affirmative decision of the others (and they may set up a supernode themselves). Rpietila may deny partial attendance to the summit, it is all or nothing. The participants receive no compensation whatsoever, except room and board. Minimum 3 people except rpietila must be present to activate the supernode.If 30 days elapses from the moment that rpietila has last made personal physical contact to minimum 3 of the above people simultaneously, earlier orders are in force. It does not matter what rpietila's condition is, as long as the others may enter and exit at will.

When I went to hibernation, I deactivated my supernode quite totally. Even though I unhibernated my self yesterday, we will need to call a general supernode meeting to officially take back the supernode powers. That will be realistic in the first week of June the earliest. I am not in a hurry myself. The most important reason (for an opening meeting to be so heavy) is:



A: I must be able to summon the participants (if not, there will be no supernode without staff anyway )



B: The participants need to have 72 hours to examine my mental situation (whether I am able to run a supernode or not).



Running a class 10 supernode ("Duke") costs me at least $100-$200k per month. If I reactivate my old businesses but no supernode, my costs will run in about $15-$20k per month. There is also an opportunity for a half/half resolution and activation of a lower class (15 or 20) supernode, and that will be discussed. Problem is that with my current medication I am hardly able to organize anything that would bring in the money, and therefore the hospital staff don't want me to organize things that would increase my cost side. I am on a sick leave until June 30 anyway. Most of the time before that I will spend in the hospital with hopefully my communications intact. When I went to hibernation, I deactivated my supernode quite totally. Even though I unhibernatedyesterday, we will need to call a general supernode meeting to officially. That will be realistic in the first week of June the earliest. I am not in a hurry myself. The most important reason (for an opening meeting to be so heavy) is:A: I must be able to summon the participants (if not, there will be no supernode without staff anywayB: The participants need to have 72 hours to examine my mental situation (whether I am able to run a supernode or not).Running a class 10 supernode ("Duke") costs me at least $100-$200k per month. If I reactivate my old businesses but no supernode, my costs will run in about $15-$20k per month. There is also an opportunity for a half/half resolution and activation of a lower class (15 or 20) supernode, and that will be discussed. Problem is that with my current medication I am hardly able to organize anything that would bring in the money, and therefore the hospital staff don't want me to organize things that would increase my cost side. I am on a sick leave until June 30 anyway. Most of the time before that I will spend in the hospital with hopefully my communications intact. HIM TVA Dragon, AOK-GM, Emperor of the Earth , Creator of the World, King of Crypto Kingdom , Lord of Malla, AOD-GEN, SA-GEN5, Ministry of Plenty (Join NOW!) , Professor of Economics and Theology, Ph.D, AM, Chairman, Treasurer, Founder, CEO, 3*MG-2, 82*OHK, NKP, WTF, FFF, etc(x3)

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Last edit: June 13, 2013, 10:52:55 AM by rpietila #4 Practical considerations





1. Many of the large holders (1,000,000 & up, I estimate there are 1000 such people) of bitcoins are rather weak organizationally. The classification points to them, that they either need to sell their bitcoins proportionally when the price rises, or start to phase out their work unrelated to Bitcoin and even start employ people related to Bitcoin.



2. The classification opens up better networking possibilities for those, who do not think that the anonymity of some of their Bitcoin requires anonymity of all of their bitcoins (think cash as an example, everybody has a bank account, but may still use cash unanonymously or anonymously). Actually the best way to hide your clandestine bitcoin uses is to have large legit traffic. As a long-time silver dealer I have had many opportunies to use cash illegitemately, because for me it is everyday to have about $10-50k in physical cash (never done that of course). At least this maps the network of rather many public Bitcoin users, so that the unmapped anonymous holders can plan their moves.



3. We need to have uniform communication modes across Bitcoinworld. This has the potential to rather soon establish the Bitcoin User not affected meme to something bold, resembling a diplomatic passport in physical world matters.







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10 Duke(10000 BTC ) - approx 70 exist

15 Prince(3000 BTC ) - approx 200 exist

20 Marquis(1000 BTC ) - approx 700 exist

25 Earl(300 BTC ) - approx 2000 exist

30 Viscount(100 BTC ) - approx 7000 exist



There is now and will be in the foreseeable future about 10,000 [7,000...15,000] people who own more than 100,000m BTC . This is a mathematical fact. The form or the top of the pyramid is already there, although most of the names will change during Bitcoins rise from 0.1 to $1000 and back.



35 Baron(30,000m BTC ) - approx 20,000 exist

40 Baronet(10,000m BTC ) - approx 70,000 exist

45 Knight(3,000m BTC ) - approx 200,000 exist

50 Freeman 1st cl.(1,000m BTC ) - approx 700,000 exist



Many of these people also exist now, and their number will likely increase somewhat when bitcoin goes mainstream.



55 Freeman 2nd cl.(300m BTC ) - approx 2,000,000 exist

60 Freeman 3rd cl.(100m BTC ) - approx 7,000,000 exist

65 Freeman 4th cl.(30m BTC ) - approx 20,000,000 exist

70 Freeman 5th cl.(10m BTC ) - approx 70,000,000 exist

75 Freeman 6th cl.(3m BTC ) - approx 200,000,000 exist

80 Freeman 7th cl.(1m BTC ) - approx 700,000,000 exist

85 Freeman 8th cl.(0.3m BTC ) - approx 1,200,000,000 exist

90 Freeman 9th cl.(0.1m BTC ) - approx 1,500,000 exist

95 Freeman 10th cl. - approx 1,200,000 exist



Currently this group numbers in millions, but it should number in billions. We need to let them develop more services in Bitcoinworld to make this segment of world population benefit from Bitcoin more. HIM TVA Dragon, AOK-GM, Emperor of the Earth , Creator of the World, King of Crypto Kingdom , Lord of Malla, AOD-GEN, SA-GEN5, Ministry of Plenty (Join NOW!) , Professor of Economics and Theology, Ph.D, AM, Chairman, Treasurer, Founder, CEO, 3*MG-2, 82*OHK, NKP, WTF, FFF, etc(x3)

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Last edit: June 13, 2013, 02:40:07 PM by rpietila #9 BTC ) - approx 70 exist

15 Prince(3,000,000m BTC ) - approx 200 exist

20 Marquis(1,000,000m BTC ) - approx 700 exist

25 Earl(300,000m BTC ) - approx 2000 exist

30 Viscount(100,000m BTC ) - approx 7000 exist

35 Baron(30,000m BTC ) - approx 20,000 exist

40 Baronet(10,000m BTC ) - approx 70,000 exist

45 Knight(3,000m BTC ) - approx 150-200,000 exist

50 Freeman 1st cl.(1,000m BTC ) - approx 300-500,000 exist



This group numbers about 0.5-1 million now, and most of them have no idea of how important they are. Really, currently they are therefore mostly not that important. But if they did activate their supernode and mininodes, they would be important very soon. Before the old powers can fall, we need the new safety net established.



We need a new OTC exchange for USD/BTC and all other crypto/fiat/metal currencies. But many are already working for that, including "my" Bitcoin Dealer Network Association (BDNA). We have many services, but people are working for that.



We also need to have a supernode network to just .. umm.. rule the world and have fun doing it.

DISCLAIMER - THIS IS JUST A GAME, ALBEIT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE IS AT STAKE IN A POSITIVE WAY





10 Duke(10,000,000m BTC ) - approx 70 exist

15 Prince(3,000,000m BTC ) - approx 200 exist

20 Marquis(1,000,000m BTC ) - approx 700 exist



These are the ones that we need most. So I propose a criteria on how to become one:





Test on Supernodes

If You pass the test with

- minimum 55, you are eligible to become Duke

- minimum 45, you are eligible to become Prince

- minimum 35, you are eligible to become Marquis

- minimum 25, you are eligible to become Earl

- minimum 15, you are eligible to become Viscount

- less than 15, you are eligible to become Freeman



1. Do you have at least (X) bitcoins:

more than 50,000 => 20 points

50,000 => 18 points

30,000 => 16 points

20,000 => 14 points

10,000 => 12 points

5,000 => 10 points

3,000 => 8 points

2,000 => 6 points

1,000 => 4 points

500 => 2 points

300 => 0 points

less than 300 => disqualified



2. Do you plan to acquire more bitcoins or sell them in the following 6 months:

sell more than 25% => 0 points

sell more than 10% => 2 points

not sell, not buy => 4 points

buy more => 6 points

Buy a lot more => 8 points



3. How many languages do you command?

=> 2 point per language



4. Have you ever been convicted of a crime (political and victimless crimes do not count)

=> 8 points if no, -4 points per each count



5. Do you understand how bitcoin network works?

yes, read and understood the white paper => 6 points

yes, could explain it to an outsider => 4 points

no, not really => 2 points

it's Greek to me => 0 points



Do you trade bitcoin OTC now?

no => 0 points

not really => 2 points

YEAH, quite much => 4 points

established business going on => 6 points



Do you have other bitcoin business?

no => 0 points

just or once => 2 points

yes but small => 4 points

established => 6 points



Write an essay on your Bitcoin Ministry (This is a



What is your Bitcoin Mission Statement? (max=> 4 points)



Your achievements (in sports, etc. something world-class(national/city/etc.) you have done, max 3) (max=> 6 points)



Count all the points, then find out about your (maximum) ranking.





Note carefully. You need to post a Bitcoin Supernode Network game fee, which goes up with the rank (0.5% of the noted wealth):



Duke: 50,000m BTC

Prince: 15,000m BTC

Marquis: 5,000m BTC

Earl: 1,500m BTC

Viscount: 600m BTC

Freeman: 300m BTC .



The price includes entrance to Internet resources, plastic name tag/(ID card) and printed promotion materials incl posters, T-shirt, millibitcoin notes.The plastic materials are actually quite nice. In a separate thread I will start asking for admissions. (Until now, this is all in planning stage.)









10 Duke(10,000,000m) - approx 70 exist15 Prince(3,000,000m) - approx 200 exist20 Marquis(1,000,000m) - approx 700 exist25 Earl(300,000m) - approx 2000 exist30 Viscount(100,000m) - approx 7000 exist35 Baron(30,000m) - approx 20,000 exist40 Baronet(10,000m) - approx 70,000 exist45 Knight(3,000m) - approx 150-200,000 exist50 Freeman 1st cl.(1,000m) - approx 300-500,000 existThis group numbers about 0.5-1 million now, and most of them have no idea of how important they are. Really, currently they are therefore mostly not that important. But if they did activate their supernode and mininodes, they would be important very soon. Before the old powers can fall, we need the new safety net established.We need a new OTC exchange for USD/BTC and all other crypto/fiat/metal currencies. But many are already working for that, including "my" Bitcoin Dealer Network Association (BDNA). We have many services, but people are working for that.10 Duke(10,000,000m) - approx 70 exist15 Prince(3,000,000m) - approx 200 exist20 Marquis(1,000,000m) - approx 700 existThese are the ones that we need most. So I propose a criteria on how to become one:If You pass the test with- minimum 55, you are eligible to become Duke- minimum 45, you are eligible to become Prince- minimum 35, you are eligible to become Marquis- minimum 25, you are eligible to become Earl- minimum 15, you are eligible to become Viscount- less than 15, you are eligible to become Freeman1. Do you have at least (X) bitcoins:more than 50,000 => 20 points50,000 => 18 points30,000 => 16 points20,000 => 14 points10,000 => 12 points5,000 => 10 points3,000 => 8 points2,000 => 6 points1,000 => 4 points500 => 2 points300 => 0 pointsless than 300 => disqualified2. Do you plan to acquire more bitcoins or sell them in the following 6 months:sell more than 25% => 0 pointssell more than 10% => 2 pointsnot sell, not buy => 4 pointsbuy more => 6 pointsBuy a lot more => 8 points3. How many languages do you command?=> 2 point per language4. Have you ever been convicted of a crime (political and victimless crimes do not count)=> 8 points if no, -4 points per each count5. Do you understand how bitcoin network works?yes, read and understood the white paper => 6 pointsyes, could explain it to an outsider => 4 pointsno, not really => 2 pointsit's Greek to me => 0 pointsDo you trade bitcoin OTC now?no => 0 pointsnot really => 2 pointsYEAH, quite much => 4 pointsestablished business going on => 6 pointsDo you have other bitcoin business?no => 0 pointsjust or once => 2 pointsyes but small => 4 pointsestablished => 6 pointsWrite an essay on your Bitcoin Ministry (This is a LARP after all, so write about your character and how it's role is to promote the bitcoin business)? (max=> 10 points)What is your Bitcoin Mission Statement? (max=> 4 points)Your achievements (in sports, etc. something world-class(national/city/etc.) you have done, max 3) (max=> 6 points)Count all the points, then find out about your (maximum) ranking.Duke: 50,000mPrince: 15,000mMarquis: 5,000mEarl: 1,500mViscount: 600mFreeman: 300mThe price includes entrance to Internet resources, plastic name tag/(ID card) and printed promotion materials incl posters, T-shirt, millibitcoin notes.The plastic materials are actually quite nice. In a separate thread I will start asking for admissions. HIM TVA Dragon, AOK-GM, Emperor of the Earth , Creator of the World, King of Crypto Kingdom , Lord of Malla, AOD-GEN, SA-GEN5, Ministry of Plenty (Join NOW!) , Professor of Economics and Theology, Ph.D, AM, Chairman, Treasurer, Founder, CEO, 3*MG-2, 82*OHK, NKP, WTF, FFF, etc(x3)

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LegendaryActivity: 826Merit: 1000amarha Re: Bitcoin Supernode System June 13, 2013, 02:39:05 PM #13



Some initial thoughts I have are:



The cut off for a Supernode being only 100 bitcoins is interesting and much more inclusive than I would have expected. This is probably a good thing because the network can potentially be much bigger now. Since it is relatively easy to acquire 100 bitcoins at this point in time. (Probably not so much in the near future)

I noticed some people are having trouble with the titles being likened to nobility. I think some people might have a visceral reaction towards the association of bitcoin and nobility, and that might turn some people off who would probably be interested in the idea of a Supernode network otherwise. Nevertheless, I personally find it an interesting metaphor.

I think the sooner you can persuade other potential Supernodes to activate, the faster the network will grow. And the higher rank that the first Supernodes have, the easier it will be for the to lead by example and create a cascade of subnodes joining the network. They would be leading by example, and people naturally tend to follow those who lead.

Some questions:

Is this going to be a formal or informal organization?

If it's going to be a formal organization, do you envision having a some sort of code that all nodes are expected to follow?

What about governance? Do you expect to have Supernodes being chosen or elected by higher ranking nodes?

What about membership dues? If the organizational part of the network requires funds, do you think there will be a membership fee? And if so will it be tiered based on rank? Or will higher ranked nodes be expected to fund the network as part of the responsibility of being a high rank node.

Do you expect the Supernode network itself to provide infrastructure for nodes in the network? Or do you expect separate entities to be created in order to service the nodes. For example: If a Supernode arrived in Hong Kong, and was in need of office space, connectivity, and administrative assistance, would you expect that the Supernode network will be in a position to provide such infrastructure for it's members? Or, since services like this will naturally be necessary, third party companies who specialize in providing the infrastructure needed to run a Supernode will be created to service the network on an international scale?

Also, I was wondering if Roni was still in your employ? If so, do you have him working on getting the network established? I assume he would be instrumental in getting the project going since you have worked with him in the past.



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Freeman I've been interested in your Supernode vision for a long time. But I did not understand exactly what you were intending to create. Reading this post I believe I am finally starting to understand what you are trying to do.Some initial thoughts I have are:Some questions:Also, I was wondering if Roni was still in your employ? If so, do you have him working on getting the network established? I assume he would be instrumental in getting the project going since you have worked with him in the past.Signed,Este NunoFreeman

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LegendaryActivity: 826Merit: 1000amarha Re: Bitcoin Supernode System June 13, 2013, 02:58:16 PM #14 Quote from: rpietila on June 13, 2013, 10:12:29 AM You can easily find work in this forum if you can code. If there are any supernodes or mininodes in your locality doing anything, you can find they pay several m BTC per hour. It is the whole point of the exercise that people should become independent of their current masters (PTB) and become Freemen instead. It does not require so many m BTC when one m BTC equals a room for month in an inn.



I can code a little. But I'm not personally willing to offer those services on a professional basis yet. I believe that someone should be able to back what they do 100% and be proud of putting their name on something if they are going to do it.



I think it's quite possible that if this concept gains hold in the bitcoin community that it could create a lot of opportunities for a wide variety of people to work and provide services for the network.



I figure I could obtain Mininode-Baron rank in the very near future if I focus on earning bitcoins and converting all fiat earned in to bitcoin. The levels are very reasonable. And becoming a Supernode should be an easy next step. I can code a little. But I'm not personally willing to offer those services on a professional basis yet. I believe that someone should be able to back what they do 100% and be proud of putting their name on something if they are going to do it.I think it's quite possible that if this concept gains hold in the bitcoin community that it could create a lot of opportunities for a wide variety of people to work and provide services for the network.I figure I could obtain Mininode-Baron rank in the very near future if I focus on earning bitcoins and converting all fiat earned in to bitcoin. The levels are very reasonable. And becoming a Supernode should be an easy next step.

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Quote from: Este Nuno on June 13, 2013, 09:41:27 AM I think I qualify for Destitute Node at the moment.



When I can find work for bitcoins I expect to level up well into the Freeman classes quickly though.



When I have 0.1 bitcoin I will be Freeman 3rd class already, is that correct? That's quite a jump.



People could easily become Freemen if there were more services or jobs in the bitcoin economy.



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LegendaryActivity: 826Merit: 1000amarha Re: Bitcoin Supernode System June 13, 2013, 04:09:13 PM #17 Quote from: gmannn on June 13, 2013, 03:40:33 PM



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With the power vested in me as Earl of Supernode, I, Gman, first of his name, hereby grant Este Nuno the title of Freeman 5th class, with all rights and titles pertaining. May you retain this title with honor and dignity.

Haha, Thank you.



As rpietila said in the op: "These guys (above) hold more bitcoins than an average person in the world. More than 99% of the coins will be held by them, so the inequality of distribution of liquid wealth will increase, should minicoin reach $300 quickly."



I'm now the 1%. Haha, Thank you.As rpietila said in the op: "These guys (above) hold more bitcoins than an average person in the world. More than 99% of the coins will be held by them, so the inequality of distribution of liquid wealth will increase, should minicoin reach $300 quickly."I'm now the 1%.

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I will answer piecewise, otherwise it becomes tl;dr.



Quote from: Este Nuno on June 13, 2013, 02:39:05 PM I've been interested in your Supernode vision for a long time. But I did not understand exactly what you were intending to create. Reading this post I believe I am finally starting to understand what you are trying to do.



* The cut off for a Supernode being only 100 bitcoins is interesting and much more inclusive than I would have expected. This is probably a good thing because the network can potentially be much bigger now. Since it is relatively easy to acquire 100 bitcoins at this point in time. (Probably not so much in the near future)



When I started, I was not clear myself, what I would be going to create. I wanted to see the relation of the "eventual distribution" of bitcoins to the people of the world (which closely follows a certain mathematical relation regardless of how the distribution is achieved - assumed it is achieved in any way imaginable now, and/or the result is lead to "play out"), and the purchasing power of people in the categories.



This resulted to the quick awakening that:



A) it is not so much how much we invest into bitcoins, but how many bitcoins we have as a result. I started investing in late 2011 and now (March-April 2013) have invested 100,000s of dollars more into it. Not that it changed my relative position much, but it just still happens to be insanely undervalued and I still invest all proceeds of my businesses into bitcoins.



B) Very many people will soon be in positions of high wealth and importance, and the only way for them not to, is to sell all or the most part of their bitcoins.



C) Even now, anyone in the first world can still be



The ones who are now afraid of bitcoin's low exchange rate - don't be. The current HNWI's may want to buy some, and they will be the ones taking the price from $10 to $100. They don't invest $100k now even though it would be sensible. They want $1M later, when it buys less coins. Just like I never bought sub-$0.001 no matter how many times I was asked. (Honestly I lived in the middle of a community where perhaps 1/3 actively bought bitcoins in 2010-6/2011).

I will answer piecewise, otherwise it becomes tl;dr.When I started, I was not clear myself, what I would be going to create. I wanted to see the relation of theof bitcoins to the people of the world (which closely follows a certain mathematical relation regardless of how the distribution is achieved - assumed it is achieved in any way imaginable now, and/or the result is lead to "play out"), and the purchasing power of people in the categories.This resulted to the quick awakening that:A) it is not so much how much we invest into bitcoins, but how many bitcoins we have as a result. I started investing in late 2011 and now (March-April 2013) have invested 100,000s of dollars more into it. Not that it changed my relative position much, but it just still happens to be insanely undervalued and I still invest all proceeds of my businesses into bitcoins.B) Very many people will soon be in positions of high wealth and importance, and the only way for them not to, is to sell all or the most part of their bitcoins.C) Even now, anyone in the first world can still be ultra-HNWI by buying 100 bitcoins. This is the original Supernode-limit. The world has now about 30,000 people of $30M or more, and Bitcoin is going to shuffle that deck a lot by bringing perhaps 10,000 new entrants and removing almost as many.The ones who are now afraid of bitcoin's low exchange rate - don't be. The current HNWI's may want to buy some, and they will be the ones taking the price from $10 to $100. They don't invest $100k now even though it would be sensible. They want $1M later, when it buys less coins. Just like I never bought sub-$0.001 no matter how many times I was asked. (Honestly I lived in the middle of a community where perhaps 1/3 actively bought bitcoins in 2010-6/2011). HIM TVA Dragon, AOK-GM, Emperor of the Earth , Creator of the World, King of Crypto Kingdom , Lord of Malla, AOD-GEN, SA-GEN5, Ministry of Plenty (Join NOW!) , Professor of Economics and Theology, Ph.D, AM, Chairman, Treasurer, Founder, CEO, 3*MG-2, 82*OHK, NKP, WTF, FFF, etc(x3)

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My house sigil has been created.Started as a freeman with a single miner. Now commanding a mining operation, long and short term trading positions, and 1st level face to face arbitrage network, with the goal of increasing BTC holdings to hypernode level within a year. Seeking vassals, bannermen, and other supernodes for diplomatic relations.