

houkouonchi

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Ontario, CA houkouonchi Member Doesn't work for any uverse customers.



I am using 5TB/month until they fix their shit:



»I will use 5TB/month until their usage meter works Uh.. No only DSL caps went live. Usage stats don't work for *ANYONE* on uverse and caps are not being implemented at all on uverse as currently the metering doesn't work at all. I have not seen one uverse customer who can see their stats.I am using 5TB/month until they fix their shit:



houkouonchi

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Ontario, CA houkouonchi Member Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. said by FFH5: said by houkouonchi: I am using 5TB/month until they fix their shit:



»I will use 5TB/month until their usage meter works



And when they do fix it? Will you pay for overages or stop using 5TB/mo? More than likeliy I will be canceling them. If they ever announce they stop the caps I will stop using the bandwidth and keep the connection.



dvd536

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Phoenix, AZ dvd536 Premium Member Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. said by houkouonchi: said by FFH5: said by houkouonchi: I am using 5TB/month until they fix their shit:



»I will use 5TB/month until their usage meter works



And when they do fix it? Will you pay for overages or stop using 5TB/mo?

More than likeliy I will be canceling them. If they ever announce they stop the caps I will stop using the bandwidth and keep the connection. A T & T will not do that! they got investers to keep happy!!



Oh_No

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Chicago, IL Oh_No Member Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. said by dvd536: A T & T will not do that! they got investers to keep happy!!

At the expense of customers.



att_stckhldr

@scansafe.net att_stckhldr Anon Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. said by Oh_No: said by dvd536: A T & T will not do that! they got investers to keep happy!!



At the expense of customers. Cry me a river

Skippy25

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Hazelwood, MO Skippy25 Member Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. LOL. Without the customer your holding is worth nothing.



KrK

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^^^^ Fascism Enabler.



Oh_No

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said by att_stckhldr : said by Oh_No: said by dvd536: A T & T will not do that! they got investers to keep happy!!



At the expense of customers.

Cry me a river

1. Customers

2. Employees

3. Investors



Sorry, but ATT will loose more money than they make with trying to charge per byte. By the time they spend billions to upgrade all the their equipment to have fast enough processors to count all the good packets of data accurately competition will exist or we will have laws that will force them back to unlimited. Don't forget all the extra money spent to handle all the customer service problems and billing problems with per byte billing.

Per byte billing is a huge expense that a serious investor would not want to pay for.

A serious investor would rather not have ATT spend a fortune on extra expenses to try to implement a policy to nickel and dime customers, but would rather have them raise prices a little by taking advantage of their monopoly. Who a real company answers to:1. Customers2. Employees3. InvestorsSorry, but ATT will loose more money than they make with trying to charge per byte. By the time they spend billions to upgrade all the their equipment to have fast enough processors to count all the good packets of data accurately competition will exist or we will have laws that will force them back to unlimited. Don't forget all the extra money spent to handle all the customer service problems and billing problems with per byte billing.Per byte billing is a huge expense that a serious investor would not want to pay for.A serious investor would rather not have ATT spend a fortune on extra expenses to try to implement a policy to nickel and dime customers, but would rather have them raise prices a little by taking advantage of their monopoly.



FFH5

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Tavistock NJ FFH5 Premium Member Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. said by Oh_No: Who a real company answers to:

1. Customers

2. Employees

3. Investors





1. Investors

2. Customers

3. Employees. You have the stakeholders right. But in the wrong order. There isn't a CEO in the USA that doesn't have Investors 1st. Well, at least not one who wants to keep his job.1. Investors2. Customers3. Employees.



Oh_No

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Chicago, IL Oh_No Member Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. said by FFH5: said by Oh_No: Who a real company answers to:

1. Customers

2. Employees

3. Investors





1. Investors

2. Customers

3. Employees.

You have the stakeholders right. But in the wrong order. There isn't a CEO in the USA that doesn't have Investors 1st. Well, at least not one who wants to keep his job.1. Investors2. Customers3. Employees.

1. Customers

2. Employees

3. Investors



A CEO should not be voted in or out by "investors" it should be by employees. Employees have more to lose than any stock market investor.



Anyways employees are bigger investors in your company than your stock investors. I said real companies.1. Customers2. Employees3. InvestorsA CEO should not be voted in or out by "investors" it should be by employees. Employees have more to lose than any stock market investor.Anyways employees are bigger investors in your company than your stock investors.

Wilsdom

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Unless you want the 5TB you are wasting your time. AT&T's complaints about the pain they feel from high-bandwidth users is 100% BS.



OSUGoose

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They dont even work for all DSL customers either



vincewarde

@sbcglobal.net vincewarde Anon Re: Doesn't work for any uverse customers. They will work very hard to figure out a way to implement caps because they know that they will lose a lot of video customers if they do not. Right now only a small percentage of users elect to pass on TV service and get their video entertainment via the internet. I am one of them. Between what I can get on Netflix, Hulu, and Shy Angel IPTV (gives me Fox News and lots of sports channels) and my antenna I get just what want. Including the streaming service portion of Netflix, the cost is about $35.00. My home network lets me access programing in any room I wish, and on my TVs. To get the same programing on the same number of sets would cost me close to $100.00.



If too many people figure out that they can have more choice for less money, more people will opt out of their TV plan, as I have. If they don't stop it now they will really be in trouble when the next more efficient video codec comes along. Lowering their bandwidth limit would probably cause them to face an anti-trust action.



If AT&T were smart, they would bit the bullet and reduce the cost of their plans, offer more choice and try to compete with services on the net.



pnh102

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Mount Airy, MD pnh102 Premium Member Perfect Role For Government In an ideal world, states and possibly even the federal government would be allowed to audit these meters to ensure their accuracy, just like they do with metered services like electricity, water and sewage, scales that are used for purposes of commerce, and things that are sold by the unit, like gasoline.



Yea yea yea we all know this isn't going to happen.

45612019 (banned)

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New York, NY 45612019 (banned) Member Re: Perfect Role For Government In an ideal world, these meters wouldn't exist.



The perfect role for government here is to ban the concept of "bandwidth caps" entirely, alongside the enforcement of network neutrality.

FactChecker

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join:2008-06-03 1 recommendation FactChecker Premium Member Re: Perfect Role For Government said by 45612019: In an ideal world, these meters wouldn't exist.



The perfect role for government here is to ban the concept of "bandwidth caps" entirely, alongside the enforcement of network neutrality.





When someone builds an infrastructure/service with resources that are shared/oversubscribed the return or profit of that shared service directly correlates with the oversubscription model.



If someone starts using their cell phone as a baby monitor, or opens up their wireless for all neighbors to use, or starts sharing video titles from their home to everyone on the Internet, or their cloud drive, etc it changes the business model related to the costs to build and support the increased dedicated capacity/user required.



All networks are shared and oversubscribed. Residential services are not sized and priced for commercial-like dedicated bandwidth 7x24. You don't have to like it, but at least you should understand the variables. Do you think the same holds true with wireless broadband? What about wireless cell minutes?, What about cloud storage, virtual web hosting, etc.When someone builds an infrastructure/service with resources that are shared/oversubscribed the return or profit of that shared service directly correlates with the oversubscription model.If someone starts using their cell phone as a baby monitor, or opens up their wireless for all neighbors to use, or starts sharing video titles from their home to everyone on the Internet, or their cloud drive, etc it changes the business model related to the costs to build and support the increased dedicated capacity/user required.All networks are shared and oversubscribed. Residential services are not sized and priced for commercial-like dedicated bandwidth 7x24. You don't have to like it, but at least you should understand the variables.



Oh_No

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Chicago, IL 1 edit Oh_No Member Re: Perfect Role For Government ATT is not oversubscribed.

ATT IS the internet as a Tieir one ISP.

Companies that resell internet access from Tier one ISPs can be oversold as they might not buy enough capacity, but Tier one ISP are the internet so if they are oversold there is a global problem.

FactChecker

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join:2008-06-03 1 recommendation FactChecker Premium Member Re: Perfect Role For Government said by Oh_No: ATT is not oversubscribed.

ATT IS the internet as a Tieir one ISP.

Companies that resell internet access from Tier one ISPs can be oversold as they might not buy enough capacity, but Tier one ISP are the internet so if they are oversold there is a global problem.





The lack of understanding on how networks are built and operate translate into unrealistic expectations and uneducated opinions. It explains a lot if people actually believe this.The lack of understanding on how networks are built and operate translate into unrealistic expectations and uneducated opinions.



ptrowski

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Woodstock, CT ptrowski Premium Member Re: Perfect Role For Government At&t wireless is not capping and throttling due to congestion. It's about money.

FactChecker

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join:2008-06-03 FactChecker Premium Member Re: Perfect Role For Government said by ptrowski: At&t wireless is not capping and throttling due to congestion. It's about money.

Everything is about money. The general rule of networking is it cost more to support more usage over any shared network (wired or wireless). How you address situations that cost more (greed vs need factor) is specific to the company.



Oh_No

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said by FactChecker: said by Oh_No: ATT is not oversubscribed.

ATT IS the internet as a Tieir one ISP.

Companies that resell internet access from Tier one ISPs can be oversold as they might not buy enough capacity, but Tier one ISP are the internet so if they are oversold there is a global problem.





The lack of understanding on how networks are built and operate translate into unrealistic expectations and uneducated opinions.

It explains a lot if people actually believe this.The lack of understanding on how networks are built and operate translate into unrealistic expectations and uneducated opinions.

I know what equipment they use, and I know what it costs.



ATT has more capacity than any other network.

»www.corp.att.com/globaln ··· _map.swf

»ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.n ··· lay.html



Now you want to say it's ATT LAN with the constraints, next week you will say its their backbone. People like you are funny and need some education. I know how networks are built and operated.I know what equipment they use, and I know what it costs.ATT has more capacity than any other network.Now you want to say it's ATT LAN with the constraints, next week you will say its their backbone. People like you are funny and need some education.

FactChecker

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join:2008-06-03 FactChecker Premium Member Re: Perfect Role For Government said by Oh_No: I know how networks are built and operated.

I know what equipment they use, and I know what it costs.



ATT has more capacity than any other network.

»www.corp.att.com/globaln ··· _map.swf

»ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.n ··· lay.html



Now you want to say it's ATT LAN with the constraints, next week you will say its their backbone. People like you are funny and need some education.

Thanks for the marketing maps and latency stats. Not sure this translates into the costs to grow networks, oversubscription models or capacity, but they are nice.



NormanS

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said by Oh_No: ATT is not oversubscribed.

ATT IS the internet as a Tieir one ISP.

Companies that resell internet access from Tier one ISPs can be oversold as they might not buy enough capacity, but Tier one ISP are the internet so if they are oversold there is a global problem.





• AS7018 (AT&T Services; the Tier 1 backbone (formerly "AT&T Worldnet Services").

• AS7132 (AT&T Internet Services; the "Last Mile" customer network (formerly "SBC Internet Services")).



ATTS is traded with other Tier 1 networks "consideration free". ATTIS is, traditionally, "oversold", as are all "Last Mile" networks, serving residential customers. SBC buying AT&T did not change this. ATTIS is comparable to Comcast's CRAN, but nothing at all like Tier 1 network. Until SBC bought AT&T, there were two separate networks:• AS7018 (AT&T Services; the Tier 1 backbone (formerly "AT&T Worldnet Services").• AS7132 (AT&T Internet Services; the "Last Mile" customer network (formerly "SBC Internet Services")).ATTS is traded with other Tier 1 networks "consideration free". ATTIS is, traditionally, "oversold", as are all "Last Mile" networks, serving residential customers. SBC buying AT&T did not change this. ATTIS is comparable to Comcast's CRAN, but nothing at all like Tier 1 network.

Skippy25

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Then I guess they need to address their network as needed in one of the 3 ways:



1.) Invest in infrastructure

2.) Raise rates to lower demand

3.) Do nothing and let the quality of the network discourage use and encourage users to go elsewhere thus freeing up more bandwidth for those that stay.



The funny thing about a network is that it ALWAYS runs as fast as it can regardless of the load on it. It may not take 100% utilization or even 10% utilization to do so, but it is certainly doing its part as fast as it can.



famu720

join:2008-03-24

Greenville, SC 1 recommendation famu720 Member AT&T Struggling With Meter Accuracy Instead of metering usage, how about AT&T scrap the caps and upgrade the network to exceed demand. It is not the customer's fault you refuse to keep up with demand.



footballdude

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Imperial, MO footballdude Premium Member Re: AT&T Struggling With Meter Accuracy said by famu720: Instead of metering usage, how about AT&T scrap the caps and upgrade the network to exceed demand. It is not the customer's fault you refuse to keep up with demand.





It's pretty easy to sit back and say 'make it better', but someone has to pay for that. According to the AT&T investor relations web site, they spent twenty three billion on network upgrades in 2010. Exactly how much do you propose they should be spending?It's pretty easy to sit back and say 'make it better', but someone has to pay for that.



Bugger

@rr.com Bugger Anon Re: AT&T Struggling With Meter Accuracy Twenty three and a half billion... Did they spend this pocket change on FTTH? No?! Did they spend it on expanding U-verse? Not really?! Then what did they spend it on? Wireless?! Well that's fantastic, but it doesn't help the poor souls on ADSL 1.5 Mbps/384 kbps now, does it?

45612019 (banned)

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New York, NY 45612019 (banned) Member Re: AT&T Struggling With Meter Accuracy said by Bugger : Twenty three and a half billion... Did they spend this pocket change on FTTH? No?! Did they spend it on expanding U-verse? Not really?! Then what did they spend it on? Wireless?! Well that's fantastic, but it doesn't help the poor souls on ADSL 1.5 Mbps/384 kbps now, does it?

It probably does. I can't think of a better way to roll out faster speeds to a sparse rural area than throwing up some wireless towers.



Bugger

@rr.com Bugger Anon Re: AT&T Struggling With Meter Accuracy Well, assuming that T is deploying more towers and RAN capacity where these customers are, replacing expensive, slow and unreliable land-line data service with even more expensive, slow, and less reliable wireless data service is not a winning proposition. There are still different needs for both. And while T has been throwing billions at wireless: lobbying the FCC, buying spectrum, building the occasional tower, upgrading from AMPS to TDMA to GSM/GPRS to EDGE to UMTS to HSDPA+ these 12-year-old DSLAMs and modems have remained untouched. And since this is DSLreports.com, not WirelessGaffe.com I think this is very disconcerting. And now T slams the users with consumption caps, how rude!



NormanS

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said by Bugger : Twenty three and a half billion... Did they spend this pocket change on FTTH? No?! Did they spend it on expanding U-verse? Not really?! Then what did they spend it on?

I wonder? Did they spend it on AS7018, or AS7132? They own both, but only AS7132 is amenable to FTTH. AS7018 is probably already 100% fiber; but they might have decided they need more core capacity for AS7018 (or more edge capacity for customers, such as Blizzard), over any kind of "Last Mile" fiber for AS7132.



Bugger

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And if they spent it on consumption meters, boy, they'd better get their/investors/my money back, 'cause I sure am not happy with this kind of revelry.



Oh_No

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said by footballdude: said by famu720: Instead of metering usage, how about AT&T scrap the caps and upgrade the network to exceed demand. It is not the customer's fault you refuse to keep up with demand.





It's pretty easy to sit back and say 'make it better', but someone has to pay for that.

According to the AT&T investor relations web site, they spent twenty three billion on network upgrades in 2010. Exactly how much do you propose they should be spending?It's pretty easy to sit back and say 'make it better', but someone has to pay for that.

In this weak economy and after Verizon slowed down installing FTTH it is the best time to get the cheapest prices to run FTTH.

They get a bonus of not needing any lawn fridges. $3 billion if I was a stock holder I would have been pissed since they will eventually have to spend another $3 billion for FTTH.In this weak economy and after Verizon slowed down installing FTTH it is the best time to get the cheapest prices to run FTTH.They get a bonus of not needing any lawn fridges.

45612019 (banned)

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The network is already keeping up with demand just fine. This has nothing to do with demand on the network and everyone knows it.

btop

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Nor is it our fault that AT&T continues to sign up more users with discounted rates.



Snakeoil

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Mentor, OH 1 recommendation Snakeoil Premium Member T mobile will fix this Sarcasm: The buyout of T-mobile will fix the meters and get everything running the way it's supposed. It's for the children you know.



Bill Neilson

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Alexandria, VA Bill Neilson Premium Member So what? Why does AT&T care? If their data meter goes crazy and says 1000 people went over the limit when none of them did, who exactly is going to punish them?



Would many of those 1000 just pay the penalties anyway? Probably since they don't know better with technology.



Bottom line, the WORST that can happen is someone take AT&T to Court and at the end of the day, get AT&T to admit no wrong-doing yet have them pay a HUGE $1000 fine and promise to be perfect angels in the future.



Some may say, "Yea, but if their meter goes wrong, people will NOT want to be a part of that!".......who thinks AT&T and others won't release statement after statement claiming that 99.9999% of their meters are super-perfect accurate? Many consumers evidently eat up whatever their press release assert.



The ISP's already have brain-washed the ignorant into thinking that anyone using above 2gb is a bandwidth abuser...oh, except if they pay a bit more.



rchandra

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rchandra Premium Member like the music and movie industries Seems to me this is a lot like song and movie downloads, CDs, and DVDs. They've expending so much energy, time, and money to come up with "innovative" ways to copy-protect the content, only to find out their efforts were largely ineffective (DeCSS for example). Likewise, it seems obvious that AT&T's estimate about the effort required to implement their plan was far less than the actual effort, time, money, etc. required, especially if they can't even tell when these new "meters" will actually be in place and be accurate. In the end, will it be worth it? It just smacks of greed to me.



mod_wastrel

anonome

join:2008-03-28 mod_wastrel Member Tsk, tsk, tsk... Nobody ever said that scamming your customers was going to be easy.



JasonOD

@comcast.net JasonOD Anon Unfortunately AT&T fooled themselves a little..... And their investors too. Dropping in a UBB system costs real money and lots of time. It's not trivial. Somebody over promised and under delivered here.

tivoboy

join:2004-05-10

Menlo Park, CA tivoboy Member Not on my dsl My dsl continues to say "cannot report usage for this account" Not sure why

mdlund0

join:2011-08-02

Lawrence, KS mdlund0 Member Internet vs. TV Since both TV and Internet travel down the same pipe on U-Verse, I might suggest that the problem that they are having is separating the two. It's probably very easy to measure the total line usage, but when you have a variable bitstream being piped for video, it will be hard to subtract that from the total to get an accurate measure of the "internet usage". Just a theory.



-M

flbas1

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Fort Lauderdale, FL flbas1 Member problems with the meters 1) how to differentiate between TV traffic and internet traffic. Yea, it sounds easy - like turning on logging onto the internet routers - until you have to upgrade the infrastructure to keep up with the amount of internet traffic users will generate.



2) how to prevent script kiddies from "ping of death" your IP addr. from what I understand, there is no good way to disconnect your public IP addr while watching TV, and if the script kiddies get your IP and just PING it - with or without the response - does that add to your usage? how can the meters remove it? Does the pattern work for HTTP traffic also?



3) how not to violate Net Neutrality rules. the ATT website is on the internet - they will want to copy it somewhere so that users do not get charged for paying bills or buying new service - like how its done on your cell (611). And possibly some other services (network sites, shows, etc).



FrenchyChuck

@bell.ca FrenchyChuck Anon I wonder if it has anything to do with all the cancellations After seeing all the cancellations AT&T just came up with the line about broken meters hoping they wouldn't lose all their dsl subscribers.

45612019 (banned)

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New York, NY 45612019 (banned) Member Re: I wonder if it has anything to do with all the cancellations Well this was certainly the catalyst the caused me to cancel my Internet and TV service with AT&T. So if their goal with this bandwidth cap bullshit was to stop people from canceling their U-verse TV service and going to Netflix, they fucked up royally. I canceled all my services with AT&T.

elray

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Santa Monica, CA elray Member Incompetence is as Incompetence does Its unfortunate that the mental giants in AT&T management couldn't be bothered to think through UBB thoroughly enough to do it right, the first time, for the benefit of all concerned.



But as I predicted long ago, here they are, waiving their metering because it simply wasn't designed, engineered, proven, or tested for accountability and accuracy. In the end, they will throw up their hands, charge more for slower tiers, and resort to other traffic-shaping methods.



If we are going to do UBB, it needs to be a genuine utility-meter device or protocol, which can be certified for accuracy by a 3rd-party testing firm, and it needs to support a lot more than just basic volume metering.

Wilsdom

join:2009-08-06 Wilsdom Member If they were only moderately greedy it would have been simpler to just downgrade everyone to a lower speed and add new higher-priced tiers.



IH8ATTNOW

@sbcglobal.net IH8ATTNOW Anon Re: My DSL still has no usage info ever since May 1st, My DSL said no usage, do not be concerned if you don't see your usage.



About 2 weeks ago, it changed.



Since I only have DSL with NO Home Phone and my account number is a 10 digit account # and NOT an actual phone number



(when I enter it into the automated system when I call AT&T, it never finds it and I have to get redirected to a live person)



now it's saying:



NO DSL associated with this account under usage



and



NO Phone number associated with this account under billing



yet I still get a bill each month for $19.95, how's that for lack of logic?



ctceo

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South Bend, IN ctceo Premium Member I Call BS I find it REAL hard to believe that hardware thats had software that's had reliable data tracking for over 2 decades is suddenly so glitchy. I've never had a problem with my router keeping track, windows OS never has had a problem watching incoming and outgoing. Hell they NEVER seem to have any problems keeping track of sending your bill EVERY month. What gives now?



t3ln3t

@datareturn.com t3ln3t Anon funny, but sad too, but more funny than anything Back when DSL was first being installed, California, then Texas ... DSL users were sucking down SO much 'stuff' from Usenet (now dead, I know) that good ol' SBC decided to institute caps on the Usenet servers.



A decision was made to limit users to 128k. SBC even got sued for doing this!



In the end, the courts let SBC do it, and there were NOT massive cancellations, like some customers claimed there would be.



I don't think this bandwidth hogging thing, is widespread. It's maybe 10% of the customer base, with really good connections, that use the hell out of it.



I still say Death to at&t

and down with ma' bell

however I know this isn't going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

aperture

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Dallas, TX aperture Member Has anyone taken a count? I don't know how it would translate to the real world, but has anyone here counted or estimated the number of users who have dumped AT&T because of the caps?

btop

join:2011-06-26 btop Member If 0.00 GB is accurate, that's fine by me! Not a matter of accuracy, says AT&T? Really? Then how they say that I used 0.00 GB for the entire months of June and July must be accurate. Not "unavailable" or similar, but 0.00 used. If they insist...!

moes

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moes Premium Member I could careless about video through att Srsly, I got to experience this so called uverse at my buddies the other night, I did a test. it wont handle 2 hd streams and downloading 5 torrents (yes legal iso's) at the same time. it bogged and then stalled and the damn modem reset. So I know what's best when it comes to video and thats flipping comcast and I know they have issues, but at least there not going "derp" we just do this shit because we say we have bandwidth hogs. erm does not work like that. but they fool the country into think it does because alot of normal internet users have no flipping clue, I think it's time to start a campaign on youtube, watch for it.