ANDREA MITCHELL, MSNBC: And her answer on Wall Street. I have never understood that she was not thinking about running for president. That really defies credulity. That said, why would the possibility of running for president after she left the State Ddepartment, why she would go out and make paid speeches to all sorts of groups, not just Wall Street?



JAMES CARVILLE: I'm uniquely qualified to not criticize people. But if you look at her Wall Street plan, none other than people like Paul Krugman said it's superior to Bernie Sanders' plan. It cracks at leverage and goes right at it.



If she gave a speech, she gave the speech. But there's no evidence whatsoever that her stance and things she's proposing are anything but good solid reform.



MITCHELL: And what do you think of this whole semantic debate, who's the real progressive?



CARVILLE You know, the one thing, and I like the debate with a negative spot or not a negative spot. You're running for president. If you have a difference with somebody, don't sit and say, you're not going to draw a distinction. This is what this is about...



I don't know what a progressive is, but he's a socialist. I consider myself a progressive, a Democrat, anything else. But I think which candidate has the best plan for Wall Street? Which candidate has the best plan for manufacturing? The best plan for higher ed. On those measures, I'm excited and comfortable where she is. But can't be more progressive than Bernie Sanders.