Yasha Levine and Mark Ames went on MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan Show today to talk about their scoop in The Nation magazine about Charles Koch and Friedrich Hayek’s secret love affair with Social Security. While the private letters of Koch and Hayek reveal appalling hypocrisy and fraud, they also expose another far deeper problem: the corruption of ideas that feed into our corrupt politics.

Dylan Ratigan is leading a push to Get Money Out: Out of politics, and out of ideology. The cynicism shown between the billionaire funder of free-market ideology–Charles Koch–and the free-market economist, Friedrich Hayek, shows just how warped and corrupt America’s intellectual world has become. Or as Ratigan calls it: “Ideas For Sale.”

Watch the clip here: