August 19, 2015

First, before you read this I’d like to clarify a couple of things: 1) I’m not a debunker and I’m not trying to disprove anything. I absolutely and firmly believe that 9/11 was an inside job because a literal mountain of evidence suggests it; 2) I don’t believe the evidence I’ve presented here settles this once and for all, though my opinion is clear. The only way to know for sure is to get the Secret Service log of Mineta’s arrival through a FOIA request. I’m only showing what I discovered upon my own examination of the photos and analyzing what it means. I think it’s very important for the Truth community to be aware of this new evidence so people can openly discuss and debate the possible implications.

After carefully reviewing the new Dick Cheney photo series on the Flikr website, snapped by White House photographer David Bohrer, I’ve discovered some which appear to completely disprove my previous theory about Norman Mineta going to the PEOC with Cheney at about 9:36 on the morning of 9/11, however, it still leaves open the possibility of Mineta deliberately lying about the time of his arrival.

The photos I will now present appear to show Norman Mineta’s arrival to the PEOC, and that the time was approximately 10:15! This new evidence directly contradicts Mineta’s own testimony to the 9/11 Commission in which he stated he arrived at the PEOC, the underground bunker, at 9:20.

If you look closely at this photo, in the upper right corner you can see Mineta entering the PEOC. Cheney is already there, in discussion with Scooter Libby and Eric S. Edelman:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/19728909970/in/album-72157656213196901/

In this next photo, you can see that Mineta is directly in front of the camera, about to take a seat opposite Cheney, who is looking at him:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/19728908390/in/album-72157656213196901/

With this next photo, I will explain how we know approximately what time this was. First, you can see that Cheney has his left hand up to his face as he ponders the events of the morning or watches a TV screen. In the previous photos showing Mineta entering and taking his seat, you can see Cheney also has his left hand to his face. Next, the woman standing behind him is on the phone (likely trying to get a hold of Bush for Cheney to speak with), the same as in the previous two photos. And finally, Scooter Libby has moved from Cheney’s right side to his left, and if you look closely at Libby’s wristwatch, you can see the time is almost 10:20, possibly 10:18:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/19295952933/in/album-72157656213196901/

The next two photos are closeups of Libby’s watch, rotated to show his perspective:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/19295952103/in/album-72157656213196901/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/19916909065/in/album-72157656213196901/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51oNuVlSJqA (fast-forward to 1:28:25)

From the time of the first photo of Norman Mineta’s arrival, to the photo of Libby’s watch showing almost 10:20, could not have been more than 5-10 minutes at most. Which means that Mineta arrived to the PEOC by approximately 10:10 or 10:15, almost an hour difference from what he testified to the 9/11 Commission!

Who could have ever guessed that Scooter Libby’s wristwatch would finally appear to solve one of the most enduring mysteries of 9/11?!

Mineta never stated in his testimony that he ever left the PEOC after entering it that morning. I don’t know the layout of the underground bunker or corridor leading to it, but I assume that the only thing outside the bunker’s blast door is the corridor leading back up to the White House. Once inside the PEOC, Mineta would not have a reason to leave and come back, at least none that I can think of. Also, in the chronology of the PEOC photo’s, Mineta is not previously seen in any of them. Therefore, the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that they accurately present us with his initial arrival.

Mineta stated to the 9/11 Commission:

MR. MINETA: I didn’t know about the order to shoot down. I arrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 a.m. And the president was in Florida, and I believe he was on his way to Louisiana at that point when the conversation that went on between the vice president and the president and the staff that the president had with him. (emphasis mine)

“At that point”, meaning at that point in time. If Mineta arrived at the PEOC at 9:20, as he said, almost an hour before these photos were taken, the president had not yet left the school in Florida. At that point, he was not on his way to Louisiana, and Mineta should have known this because of Bush’s televised speech at the school at 9:30. However, when Cheney spoke to Bush about a shoot-down order an hour later at 10:18, the president was aboard Air Force One on his way to Louisiana. Also, Mineta couldn’t have been talking about the conversation Cheney had with Bush in the tunnel leading to the PEOC from 9:45 to 9:56, as he was not present and it occurred after his stated time of arrival.

Mineta’s slip of the tongue tells us that he’s referring to Cheney’s phone call at 10:18. He’s inadvertently confirming that, instead of 9:20, he’d actually arrived an hour later and was present for Cheney’s call to Bush, as the photos show.

Finally, the TV screen in the last photo shows the Pentagon on fire and the evacuation underway, something Mineta could have seen as the images were only a few feet away from him, or at the very least he would have been informed of it once in the room. But Mineta claims that the conversation he overheard between Cheney and a young officer, identified as Douglas Cochrane, which would have been taking place at this time, was about an incoming plane which had not yet struck the Pentagon.

On September 11, 2018, an article in the Washington Examiner was published titled, “Ex-Transportation secretary recalls a chaotic scene at the White House on 9/11”, written by Homeland Security Reporter, Anna Giaritelli. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ex-transportation-secretary-recalls-a-chaotic-scene-at-the-white-house-on-9-11

In this article, Mineta repeats a number of falsehoods:

“As we were driving in West Executive Drive [a closed street on the White House property], people were running out of the [Eisenhower Executive Office Building]. They were running out of the White House. And I said to my driver and security person, ‘Is there something wrong with this picture? Everyone is running out and we’re driving in,’” Mineta said.

According to the official timeline of events, the White House was evacuated at 9:43 AM, however, Mineta stated he arrived in the PEOC at 9:20 AM. Mineta’s statement about people evacuating tells us when he actually arrived at the White House.

1. “By 9:25 a.m., minutes after the two American Airlines planes had crashed into the north and south World Trade Center towers, Mineta was getting situated in the PEOC room,” and, “I sat there from roughly 9:30 to about 5 o’clock that evening trying to keep things running,” he recalled.”

This early time has now been proven false.

2. “While I was there, someone came in – a military officer came in and said to the vice president, who was sitting directly across, ‘There’s a plane coming from – towards D.C.’

Notice here that Mineta stops and corrects himself mid-sentence; he does not finish stating where the plane was coming from, but where it was headed.

So I said to Monte Belger, who’s the number two, the deputy administrator of FAA, I said, ‘What do you have on the radar of the plane coming toward D.C.?’” “We have one plane that’s unidentified and all we’re doing is following the blips because the transponder has been turned off,” Mineta recalled Belger responding. In those minutes, Mineta kept asking Belger for updates on that specific plane. “I’d say to Monte, ‘Where is it?’” “Probably in the middle of Pennsylvania,” Belger said. “Oh, probably north of Baltimore,” he updated. “Where is it now,” Mineta would ask. “Oops we just lost the boogie,” Belger said. “What do you mean you lost the boogie? Where is it?” Mineta recalled asking. The reply: “It’s somewhere between Pentagon City and National Airport.”

This information was based on the Secret Service *projected* radar tracking of Flight 93, which was over Pennsylvania; it was not Flight 77 because it had already hit the Pentagon.

3. “And then someone broke in to the phones and they said, ‘Mr. Secretary, we just got a call from an Arlington police officer, he saw an American Airlines go into the Pentagon,’” Mineta said. “I said … that is the third commercial airline used as a missile in the last hour and a half.”

This statement completely betrays Mineta’s testimony to the 9/11 Commission that he arrived at the PEOC at 9:20. The clue is when he slips up and says, “the last hour and a half,” which tells us approximately what time he actually arrived at the PEOC (the first plane to hit the WTC was at 8:46; an hour and a half from that time is 10:15). Therefore, Mineta was aware what time it was when he was there in the bunker – and – he is aware of what time he was there when he did this interview in 2018. Which means he is deliberately lying when he continues to state he arrived there at 9:20.



With this 2018 interview, it is quite remarkable and noteworthy that, after 15 years since his 2003 testimony under oath to the 9/11 Commission, Norman Mineta has not changed his thinking or recollections, but instead has completely adhered to his original story. He has lied and he continues to lie.

What are we to make of this?

There can only be two possible answers:

1. Mineta unintentionally lied to the 9/11 Commission about the time of his arrival;

2. Mineta deliberately lied about the time of his arrival.

1. Mineta Unintentionally Lied: First off, I don’t believe Mineta would have been mistaken or confused about the time of his arrival to the PEOC by over an hour. He likely saw on the PEOC TV’s the Pentagon already on fire after his arrival, or at least been told of it being struck by a plane. Mineta was not entirely alone that morning as he had a security guard with him, and likely had aides from his office who helped him. They would have been co-ordinating his schedule for the day and would most certainly have taken note of the time of his arrival to the PEOC. This would have been turned over and become part of the official record. Also, before his testimony to the 9/11 Commission, he would have been briefed by his aides about this, and therefore he would have known what the actual time of his arrival was. If this is true, then he could not have been mistaken or misspoke to the Commission during his testimony. Additionally, the Commission members would have known exactly what time he arrived to the PEOC, because that information would have already been provided to them by the Secret Service via the logs IN ADVANCE of his testimony. Therefore, as he was testifying, the Commission members would have immediately known the time he was stating of his arrival at 9:20 AM was completely WRONG – And yet THEY DID NOT CORRECT HIM (THIS IS KEY).

2. Mineta Deliberately Lied: This is what I believe is what happened, and I will now explain what it means as to the reasons and implications. If Mineta could not have been mistaken by over an hour, then it means he lied, and he deliberately lied. Now, exactly WHY would Norman Mineta lie about the time of his arrival? Well, is it possible he was highly embarrassed that he arrived so late to the PEOC, when everyone else was already there, enough to make him obfuscate and lie during his testimony to protect his image for posterity and history?

An April 1, 2002 article was published in Slate magazine titled, “The Mineta Myth – How Bob Woodward made the secretary of transportation a false hero”, written by Joshua Green. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2002/04/bob-woodward-s-sept-11-myth-making.html

In the article, it states:

“Long considered a competent if unremarkable backbencher, Mineta has refashioned himself as a quick-thinking decision-maker with flawless instincts in an emergency,” and, “He may be that, but he isn’t the hero Woodward and Balz make him out to be. According to insiders, that honor belongs to Monte Belger, at the time the No. 2 official at the FAA. A precise, diligent career bureaucrat known among colleagues as “the Forrest Gump of the FAA,” Belger was on a phone bridge with controllers at the David J. Hurley Air Traffic Control System Command Center in Herndon, Va., and ordered flights grounded 15 minutes before Mineta was even notified of the attacks. So, when the secretary issued his blunt order—”Monte, bring all the planes down!”—Monte had already done so.”

The order to “bring all the planes down” was issued at 9:46 by Ben Sliney, FAA’s National Operations Manager. Mineta was notified 15 minutes later, at about 10 AM. And then, when Mineta was finally in the PEOC:

“A top FAA official (likely Monte Belger)… then called Mineta, finding him in a bunker with the vice president and other officials. He explained the plan, and Mineta agreed. …Then there was a pause in the conversation. You know what many of us do when there is a pause in the conversation. We try to fill the dead time. The FAA official, unfortunately said something like, “Of course we could have let them go on to their destinations, or …” Big mistake. Norm heard that throwaway line as saying the FAA was still considering letting them go on to destination. He then fired off his now-famous order.” – Slate

I don’t believe Mineta has lied and continued to lie for a flimsy reason as being embarrassed for being late in his arrival to the PEOC. But it is very possible he is lying to protect his image for not giving immediate orders to ground the planes.

However, there is another possible answer which needs to be explored, and it is that Mineta was protected in his lie.

Which means what exactly?

NORMAN MINETA WAS ORDERED TO LIE.

Why would Mineta be ordered by Bush administration officials to lie about the time of his arrival to the PEOC?

They could have been trying to hide something from the public record, and that was the time of his actual arrival. So what occurred when he arrived just after 10:15?

A PHONE CALL at 10:18.

This was the phone call he overheard soon after he arrived, that was between Vice President Cheney and President Bush. Because he was possibly ordered to lie about the time of his arrival, thereby making it wrong and subsequently having his testimony completely scrubbed from the official record, he successfully avoided having to reveal what he overheard Cheney tell Bush during this phone call.

WHAT DID MINETA OVERHEAR IN THE PHONE CALL?

What I think Mineta could have overheard in the phone call between Cheney and Bush, and the reason why I think it is possible he was ordered to lie about the time of his arrival, is Cheney informing Bush that Flight 93 was shot down over Pennsylvania – and they wanted to keep this secret from the public.

The real coverup is NOT that Mineta overheard a *no-shootdown* order from Cheney, thus allowing the Pentagon to be struck at 9:37. This theory has now been proven to be wrong.

The real coverup could be that FLIGHT 93 WAS SHOT DOWN.

The evidence for this is Mineta’s actual time of arrival, and that he deliberately lied about it to the 9/11 Commission, thereby causing his testimony to be wrong and giving the excuse and the reason to not include it in the final report.

Remember: The 9/11 Commission members DID NOT CORRECT Mineta, despite their likely knowing he was completely wrong about what time he arrived at the PEOC.

Why did they not correct him? Could they have been helping him protect his image for posterity?

Was there deliberate collusion in Mineta’s lie by the 9/11 Commission, and their possibly helping to cover up the shoot-down of Flight 93?

CONCLUSION:

What we are left with are only two real possible answers:

1. Norman Mineta deliberately lied to the 9/11 Commission, and continues to lie to this day about the time of his arrival to the PEOC, because he is trying to protect his image for historical posterity.

2. He deliberately lied to the 9/11 Commission, and continues to do so, because he was ordered to lie by Bush administration officials.

It is my personal opinion that the former answer is more likely, however, the latter should not be entirely discounted.

I believe Norman Mineta needs to be publicly presented this new evidence. He needs to be questioned about it. He needs to PROVIDE ANSWERS.

Thank you.

DC Wince

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