New Image of Transformers Masterpiece Dinobot in Raptor Mode

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After months of no news regarding this figure, the latest Figure King magazine finally gives us a new image of the next Beast Wars Masterpiece, Dinobot. It is only of the beast mode but we can make quite a bit from it. We see he has textured skin which is different from Primal and Cheetor who had smooth panels with little sculpting in beast mode. Also, we see his beast mode hands have ports which mean that he may have an accessory to be held in beast mode. Also, we see has a hinge at the top of his dino face with a panel going along his eyes hinting that he will probably have the ability to change beast mode eyes, as was the case with Cheetor. He also has a hinged mouth, but we expected that part. Hopefully this tides you over until next month when we should be getting better images in the same magazine. Credit(s): lord ginrai on TFW boards

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Re: New Image of Transformers Masterpiece Dinobot in Raptor Mode (1918284)

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shajaki wrote: Sabrblade wrote: shajaki wrote: I'm not against it by any means... but where's the consistency? Primal and Cheetor didn't get any fur sculpting I'm not against it by any means... but where's the consistency? Primal and Cheetor didn't get any fur sculpting Dinobot's Mainframe CG model had sculpted scales.



Primal's and Cheetor's CG models were smooth-surfaced, so it's just Takara's usual fidelity to screen-accuracy. Dinobot's Mainframe CG model had sculpted scales.Primal's and Cheetor's CG models were smooth-surfaced, so it's just Takara's usual fidelity to screen-accuracy. .......Hmmmmmmm... I do see what you're saying.. but how can the argument not me made saying it just looks like that? That the scales are simply painted on the CG skin, made to mimic the look of scales?



Your point is good enough to quell me though. I can see it either way. .......Hmmmmmmm... I do see what you're saying.. but how can the argument not me made saying it just looks like that? That the scales are simply painted on the CG skin, made to mimic the look of scales?Your point is good enough to quell me though. I can see it either way. A closer look at some of Dinobot's CG scales reveals some lighting and shading applied to the little tiny scales that emulates the depths and shaping of each scale, which is a little more complex than simply having scale-based lines painted over his skin render. Otherwise, the light ought to be reflecting off each scale in a manner consistent with how light reflect off of smooth surfaces, instead of reflecting inconsistently across multiple bumps and pits of a non-uniform surface.



Looks like Mainframe put much greater detailed effort into designing and rendering Dinobot's (and Megatron's, for that matter) skin than they did for those of Primal and Cheetor. I guess since Jurassic Park was still big at the time, the dinosaurs got extra special treatment. A closer look at some of Dinobot's CG scales reveals some lighting and shading applied to the little tiny scales that emulates the depths and shaping of each scale, which is a little more complex than simply having scale-based lines painted over his skin render. Otherwise, the light ought to be reflecting off each scale in a manner consistent with how light reflect off of smooth surfaces, instead of reflecting inconsistently across multiple bumps and pits of a non-uniform surface.Looks like Mainframe put much greater detailed effort into designing and rendering Dinobot's (and Megatron's, for that matter) skin than they did for those of Primal and Cheetor. I guess since Jurassic Park was still big at the time, the dinosaurs got extra special treatment. Posted by Sabrblade on October 24th, 2017 @ 9:35pm CDT

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Wow,he looks really well articulated! Posted by TulioDude on October 24th, 2017 @ 9:36pm CDT

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definantly into this one more than Primal and Cheetor but srsly where's the Rattrap love Takara? I know a guy who'll love this!definantly into this one more than Primal and Cheetorbut srsly where's the Rattrap love Takara? Posted by Prime Target on October 24th, 2017 @ 9:46pm CDT

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Choppaface! Posted by Quantum Surge on October 24th, 2017 @ 9:47pm CDT

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They had me a little worried that ol' Dinobutt would never see the light of day.

I have a shelf set up just for Masterpiece Beast Wars figures and to leave me hanging with only Primal and Cheetor would have been a tragedy. Posted by Corsair on October 24th, 2017 @ 10:18pm CDT

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Sabrblade wrote: shajaki wrote: Sabrblade wrote: shajaki wrote: I'm not against it by any means... but where's the consistency? Primal and Cheetor didn't get any fur sculpting I'm not against it by any means... but where's the consistency? Primal and Cheetor didn't get any fur sculpting Dinobot's Mainframe CG model had sculpted scales.



Primal's and Cheetor's CG models were smooth-surfaced, so it's just Takara's usual fidelity to screen-accuracy. Dinobot's Mainframe CG model had sculpted scales.Primal's and Cheetor's CG models were smooth-surfaced, so it's just Takara's usual fidelity to screen-accuracy. .......Hmmmmmmm... I do see what you're saying.. but how can the argument not me made saying it just looks like that? That the scales are simply painted on the CG skin, made to mimic the look of scales?



Your point is good enough to quell me though. I can see it either way. .......Hmmmmmmm... I do see what you're saying.. but how can the argument not me made saying it just looks like that? That the scales are simply painted on the CG skin, made to mimic the look of scales?Your point is good enough to quell me though. I can see it either way. A closer look at some of Dinobot's CG scales reveals some lighting and shading applied to the little tiny scales that emulates the depths and shaping of each scale, which is a little more complex than simply having scale-based lines painted over his skin render. Otherwise, the light ought to be reflecting off each scale in a manner consistent with how light reflect off of smooth surfaces, instead of reflecting inconsistently across multiple bumps and pits of a non-uniform surface.



Looks like Mainframe put much greater detailed effort into designing and rendering Dinobot's (and Megatron's, for that matter) skin than they did for those of Primal and Cheetor. I guess since Jurassic Park was still big at the time, the dinosaurs got extra special treatment. A closer look at some of Dinobot's CG scales reveals some lighting and shading applied to the little tiny scales that emulates the depths and shaping of each scale, which is a little more complex than simply having scale-based lines painted over his skin render. Otherwise, the light ought to be reflecting off each scale in a manner consistent with how light reflect off of smooth surfaces, instead of reflecting inconsistently across multiple bumps and pits of a non-uniform surface.Looks like Mainframe put much greater detailed effort into designing and rendering Dinobot's (and Megatron's, for that matter) skin than they did for those of Primal and Cheetor. I guess since Jurassic Park was still big at the time, the dinosaurs got extra special treatment.



Realistic fur is really hard to actually create in CGI, let alone to animate it. Studios have only just begun to master it, thanks in part of the computer's abilities, or lack thereof, to render a ridiculous amount of objects on a single model, let alone multiple. Plus, by comparison episodic series have a smaller budget per section than a feature length movie, which doesn't help. Realistic fur is really hard to actually create in CGI, let alone to animate it. Studios have only just begun to master it, thanks in part of the computer's abilities, or lack thereof, to render a ridiculous amount of objects on a single model, let alone multiple. Plus, by comparison episodic series have a smaller budget per section than a feature length movie, which doesn't help. Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 24th, 2017 @ 10:24pm CDT

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Sabrblade wrote: shajaki wrote: Sabrblade wrote: shajaki wrote: I'm not against it by any means... but where's the consistency? Primal and Cheetor didn't get any fur sculpting I'm not against it by any means... but where's the consistency? Primal and Cheetor didn't get any fur sculpting Dinobot's Mainframe CG model had sculpted scales.



Primal's and Cheetor's CG models were smooth-surfaced, so it's just Takara's usual fidelity to screen-accuracy. Dinobot's Mainframe CG model had sculpted scales.Primal's and Cheetor's CG models were smooth-surfaced, so it's just Takara's usual fidelity to screen-accuracy. .......Hmmmmmmm... I do see what you're saying.. but how can the argument not me made saying it just looks like that? That the scales are simply painted on the CG skin, made to mimic the look of scales?



Your point is good enough to quell me though. I can see it either way. .......Hmmmmmmm... I do see what you're saying.. but how can the argument not me made saying it just looks like that? That the scales are simply painted on the CG skin, made to mimic the look of scales?Your point is good enough to quell me though. I can see it either way. A closer look at some of Dinobot's CG scales reveals some lighting and shading applied to the little tiny scales that emulates the depths and shaping of each scale, which is a little more complex than simply having scale-based lines painted over his skin render. Otherwise, the light ought to be reflecting off each scale in a manner consistent with how light reflect off of smooth surfaces, instead of reflecting inconsistently across multiple bumps and pits of a non-uniform surface.



Looks like Mainframe put much greater detailed effort into designing and rendering Dinobot's (and Megatron's, for that matter) skin than they did for those of Primal and Cheetor. I guess since Jurassic Park was still big at the time, the dinosaurs got extra special treatment. A closer look at some of Dinobot's CG scales reveals some lighting and shading applied to the little tiny scales that emulates the depths and shaping of each scale, which is a little more complex than simply having scale-based lines painted over his skin render. Otherwise, the light ought to be reflecting off each scale in a manner consistent with how light reflect off of smooth surfaces, instead of reflecting inconsistently across multiple bumps and pits of a non-uniform surface.Looks like Mainframe put much greater detailed effort into designing and rendering Dinobot's (and Megatron's, for that matter) skin than they did for those of Primal and Cheetor. I guess since Jurassic Park was still big at the time, the dinosaurs got extra special treatment.



Realistic fur is really hard to actually create in CGI, let alone to animate it. Studios have only just begun to master it, thanks in part of the computer's abilities, or lack thereof, to render a ridiculous amount of objects on a single model, let alone multiple. Plus, by comparison episodic series have a smaller budget per section than a feature length movie, which doesn't help. Realistic fur is really hard to actually create in CGI, let alone to animate it. Studios have only just begun to master it, thanks in part of the computer's abilities, or lack thereof, to render a ridiculous amount of objects on a single model, let alone multiple. Plus, by comparison episodic series have a smaller budget per section than a feature length movie, which doesn't help.



Yeah, they made a big deal of showing hair off in Shrek 2 on Prince Charming.



If you watch the end of Beast Wars and then go watch the beginning you see a major change of quality. They got better stuff as the series went on. When I first saw the series I was just impressed that we got 3D transformers.



Oh, and Dinobot is just awesome. Fav char by far from Beast Wars. Definitely lovin' this masterpiece so far. Yeah, they made a big deal of showing hair off in Shrek 2 on Prince Charming.If you watch the end of Beast Wars and then go watch the beginning you see a major change of quality. They got better stuff as the series went on. When I first saw the series I was just impressed that we got 3D transformers.Oh, and Dinobot is just awesome. Fav char by far from Beast Wars. Definitely lovin' this masterpiece so far. Posted by EunuchRon on October 24th, 2017 @ 11:17pm CDT

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I just realised how big he's going to be. I presume he'll be show accurate and scale well with the others, which means he'll be head and shoulders above Primal. That's super exciting.



It's been a while since I watched the show so this only just clicked. Posted by butcher31 on October 25th, 2017 @ 12:45am CDT

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butcher31 wrote: I just realised how big he's going to be. I presume he'll be show accurate and scale well with the others, which means he'll be head and shoulders above Primal. That's super exciting.



It's been a while since I watched the show so this only just clicked. Yep, exciting is the right word! While LG Rattrap and Rhinox are pretty good stand-ins from a scale perspective, this will presumably be the first Dinobot anywhere close to the "correct" size and that's just amazing and kind of surreal.



What do y'all think is next - Tigatron retooling, Megatron, or another Primal repaint? Yep, exciting is the right word! While LG Rattrap and Rhinox are pretty good stand-ins from a scale perspective, this will presumably be the first Dinobot anywhere close to the "correct" size and that's just amazing and kind of surreal.What do y'all think is next - Tigatron retooling, Megatron, or another Primal repaint? Posted by ScottyP on October 25th, 2017 @ 8:14am CDT

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ScottyP wrote: What do y'all think is next - Tigatron retooling, Megatron, or another Primal repaint? Hopefully Megatron. Hopefully Megatron. Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2017 @ 8:31am CDT

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I honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...

But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. Always count on redecos happening firstI honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. Posted by Kurona on October 25th, 2017 @ 8:40am CDT

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Kurona wrote: Always count on redecos happening first I honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from.. Always count on redecos happening firstI honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from.. He does? I can see Takara doing a Thrustor retool, maybe a toy deco version, but outside of that it'd have to be Grimlock or Fox Kids or some US toy-only deco that I can't imagine them touching. Would be happy to be way wrong about this, for the record! He does? I can see Takara doing a Thrustor retool,a toy deco version, but outside of that it'd have to be Grimlock or Fox Kids or some US toy-only deco that I can't imagine them touching. Would be happy to be way wrong about this, for the record! Posted by ScottyP on October 25th, 2017 @ 8:58am CDT

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ScottyP wrote: Kurona wrote: Always count on redecos happening first I honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from.. Always count on redecos happening firstI honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from.. He does? I can see Takara doing a Thrustor retool, maybe a toy deco version, but outside of that it'd have to be Grimlock or Fox Kids or some US toy-only deco that I can't imagine them touching. Would be happy to be way wrong about this, for the record! He does? I can see Takara doing a Thrustor retool,a toy deco version, but outside of that it'd have to be Grimlock or Fox Kids or some US toy-only deco that I can't imagine them touching. Would be happy to be way wrong about this, for the record!

Original toy, BWN Hardhead, the Season 3 Cyberraptors... they used this mold a lot. Original toy, BWN Hardhead, the Season 3 Cyberraptors... they used this mold a lot. Posted by Kurona on October 25th, 2017 @ 9:35am CDT

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Ah, yep I forgot Hardhead in Neo but good call! Cyber raptors would surprise me but if the mold sells super well I could see it as a quick cash-in Posted by ScottyP on October 25th, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT

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Excited to see that we are finally making ground with this figure. I was hoping to pick Dinobot up, considering how great I found the character. I wasn't that impressed with Cheetor, and I didn't have the money to get Primal, so hopefully he is good and i have money!



As for your question Scotty, Megatron has to come soon. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tigatron soon, but they had better do a Megatron soon. Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 25th, 2017 @ 10:20am CDT

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I had completely forgotten that this figure was coming. I expect the price will be around the seeker range, though, if it is going to be taller than Primal. That is quite deflating. Posted by Ironhidensh on October 25th, 2017 @ 11:26am CDT

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Kurona wrote: Always count on redecos happening first I honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...

But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. Always count on redecos happening firstI honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. They could release a Clone version, with his transformation joints glued together They could release a Clone version, with his transformation joints glued together Posted by shajaki on October 25th, 2017 @ 1:09pm CDT

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shajaki wrote: Kurona wrote: Always count on redecos happening first I honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...

But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. Always count on redecos happening firstI honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. They could release a Clone version, with his transformation joints glued together They could release a Clone version, with his transformation joints glued together

Oh man, actually, how many people are gonna buy two MP Dinobots because of the clone? Oh man, actually, how many peoplegonna buy two MP Dinobots because of the clone? Posted by Kurona on October 25th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CDT

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Kurona wrote: shajaki wrote: Kurona wrote: Always count on redecos happening first I honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...

But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. Always count on redecos happening firstI honestly think the next thing we'll get is a Dinobot mold re-use. He's certainly got a lot to choose from...But after that? I'll be surprised if Megatron isn't next. They could release a Clone version, with his transformation joints glued together They could release a Clone version, with his transformation joints glued together

Oh man, actually, how many people are gonna buy two MP Dinobots because of the clone? Oh man, actually, how many peoplegonna buy two MP Dinobots because of the clone? Well, NOW that you guys brought up the idea...



Well, NOW that you guys brought up the idea... Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2017 @ 1:20pm CDT