Transcript for Trump considers Muhammad Ali pardon

Before we get into our next subject, I want to show you the size of the writing on this card. This card is, like, the writing was this big. I was, like, I can't read this. Here. Just letting y'all know. I know how to read. I just can't read this. So -- So you know who said he may pardon boxing champ Muhammad Ali who actually doesn't need a pardon because his conviction for refusing to serve in Vietnam was overturned in 1971 when the courts upheld he was a conscientious objeor based on his religious beliefs. His wife suggested he pardon the NFL players who are kneeling instead of standing because they are doing it with the inspiration of Ali. We have sort of jokingly said maybe he has to read the history or maybe he should know the history. Is it getting to be, like, read the history? Is it now no longer, like, friendly and sweet? Hey. Do your job. We have also said this pardon power he considers it his superpower, and he goes like this, and somebody is pardoned. He likes to do it without looking through the history, without using his advisers, and so I think it kind of popped up in his head, like, wow. I also pardoned the other boxer, jack Johns. Let me pardon Ali too. I'll get some good press. I think that's how he sort of runs this country by the seat of his pants. He avoided wars and drafts and service because of bone spurs. Five times. Muhammad Ali at least had a conscientious reason he thought through. In addition to Reing history, he might want to read to bit areas. He needs to pardon somebody who was alive. This is something he can do all by himself, which is not many things the president can do. Exactly. He has become the Oprah of pardons. You get a pardon. You get a pardon. You get a pardon. He likes that. There are some -- that's funny. People go and plead their case for whatever. It's, like, the public square. It's insane. Somebody wrote, I guess, in the -- some Chicago paper that this is his way of trying to hook black people in. Maybe. Maybe. Because he is -- he has pardoned some black people. It's kind of like putting Ben Carson in charge of housing because he passed a housing project once, you know? It's, like -- it's kind of odd, but I think, you know, that things that would -- I don't know, maybe black people happier than, you know, these pardons is maybe some insight into how education should actually be run, and putting someone in charge that would actually make education better. Or, you know, or -- Or dealing with police brutality perhaps. That would be -- He is going forward with prison reform. I think Jared Kushner, and even van Jones himself met with Kushner, and the pardong of Alice Marie Johnson. I take such offense at the idea -- I hate identity politics as you know. I don't think anyone is dumb enough to be, like, you pardoned Jack Johnson. We're cool now. If he takes on any issues like prison reform, it will be interesting to see ifnyone responds in any way because it's not -- it's really not the issue I thought he would be tackling at this point. It is an issue where he can get some traction. I'm sure he believes, but -- and perhaps -- I won't even make the joke. I don't even want to do it. Prison reform, and justice reform is one where there is bipartisan agreement and in congress. There could actually be action taken and something done. Let's see. Let's see. Alice, her case highlighted so much, in justice, and it affects predominantly minorities. P. Yes. It's first offenses and nonviolent offenses. It should be addressed. Yes, and it should be addressed, and if he actually does it, that would be wonderful. But that's not a hook to get black folks behind you. I'm just saying. That's my point is that's not what it's going to take. It's going to take a little more than that, but if you can help fix this, actually it's going to be Jared. So why am I talking to you?

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