Especially when you’ve been painting the Obamas as the scum of the Earth. That was a big theme of last night. That Obama and Hillary have created all these enemies for us and that we aren’t safe. That we must take down the enemies. Giuliani and Flynn were especially impassioned about this. The theme of Day 1 was “Make America Safe Again.” Did you leave the convention feeling like there is a good plan put in place to make America safe again?

It was not the purpose of the speakers to lay out the entire plan. That’s the job of the candidate. I think what the speakers were expressing was that a Trump administration will handle the military and diplomatic relations in a much more direct manner. Obama administration has undoubtedly been weak. Most great leaders in the past have clearly said that you have power with a strong military and a strong economy. That’s the fundamental issue with the Dems policies.

What was your reaction to Giuliani? Did you guys think he was a little over the top?

I thought he was engaged and passionate. He is one of the few that really fired the place up. He definitely got excited!

Did you stick around for Flynn’s speech after Melania, or did you leave before that? Because that had to be one of the most awkward things I’ve seen.

I was there. It was unfortunate. How could anyone follow the main figure? Trump himself should have never been on stage if others were to follow his wife. Dumb logistics. You had Flynn watching 1,000 leaving and him trying to address the crowd.

Yeah, to be fair to him, they didn’t put him in a good position.

Horrible. If it was only her, no issue. But once Trump himself came on it was over. Melania should have been the finale.

Do you feel like night one was a success, a failure, or somewhere in-between in terms of delivering the Republican Party message?

Somewhere in-between. I felt they could have had fewer key speakers and hit the mark.

Less former Real World cast members?

I did not even know that. Was that the husband and wife from Wisconsin?

Yes. Sean Duffy and Rachel Campos.

He is actually a U.S. Representative with eight kids! I’m sure the TV personality helped but he was well spoken. Remember, most political speakers are likely to be future appointments or candidates themselves. Speaking at the convention is a step in future potential. I.e. Obama. No one knew him but he nailed the Dem convention speech and propelled him upward.

Obviously nothing at this stage is of the game is going to make you suddenly switch and vote for Hillary, but are you all-in on the Trump message? Or is it still the lesser of two evils motif you mentioned yesterday?

I will never vote for Hillary. It’s wrong for the country. But I still need and want Trump to define the platform, outline his policies, etc., and then I think maybe a shift could happen. He can win and it could be good for America. But undoubtedly it’s still a lot of uncertainty currently that we need to feel comfortable moving beyond. We are in a different type of never-seen-before candidacy. That, like all change, makes people uncomfortable.