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(NaturalNews) When Brent Leung started showcasing his groundbreaking new documentary film about AIDS, "House of Numbers" ( www.HouseOfNumbers.com ), he had no way to comprehend the wave of defamatory attacks that would be unleashed against him. Promoters of conventional AIDS theories (with all their vaccines and pharmaceuticals) have gone on a rampage against Leung, calling him an "AIDS denialist" -- with an obvious invocation of the similar-sounding "Holocaust denialist" phrase.The implication, of course, is that if you deny any part of conventional AIDS theories, you're as bad as a Nazi war criminal. It's a curious comparison, especially given that the origins of the modern pharmaceutical industry are found precisely in the Nazi regime where pharmaceutical scientists routinely conducted medical experiments on Jewish prisoners. As a fascinating matter of historical fact, the Chairman of Bayer in the 1950's (yes, the same Bayer that makes Bayer Aspirin) was Dr. Fritz ter Meer, a convicted war criminal, who after committing crimes against humanity was sentenced to seven years in prison at the Nuremberg war trials.The pharmaceutical industry operating today is largely a cabal of unindicted criminals who are guilty of crimes against humanity, and one of their favorite methods of multiplying their profits is to push a disease, then sell a vaccine they claim "treats" the disease. It's the same old scam, whether we're talking about cervical cancer, swine flu or even AIDS.Getting back to Brent Leung and his film, when the AIDS-pharma promoters saw his film, they knew they had toand try to discredit him as quickly as possible. So they claimed Leung quoted the scientists in the film, thereby distorting what they were saying. In particular, Leung was attacked for his interview with Dr. Luc Montagnier, the Nobel Prize-winning co-discoverer of the AIDS virus, who explained to Leung during the interview that AIDS can be overcome (cured) with nutrition, and that the vaccine approach is entirely overblown.Such an idea, of course, spells financial doom for drug companies and their cohorts, all of whom profit from the oft-repeated myth that "AIDS has no cure" and that only drugs can treat AIDS. So the critics went after Leung for daring to include Montagnier's words in his documentary. One critic in particular, Jeanne Bergman from an "AIDS truth " website, claimed that Leung "sucker punched" Montagnier.She also claimed Leung quoted Montagnier out of context and blamed him for asking "leading questions" by saying, "Montagnier does not spontaneously say in the film that a healthy diet will clear the virus. Leung asked leading questions and then presented a fragment of conversation out of context."As you'll soon see, Jeanne Bergman has no clue what she's talking about. But that's actually par for the course when it comes to the AIDS industry.To help provide clarity to this issue, NaturalNews spoke withfilmmaker Brent Leung who agreed to provide us with exclusive,of the conversation with Luc Montagnier, complete with subtitles.You can now view this exclusive, revealing footage on YouTube at:NaturalNews transcribed this un-cut conversation and below, we've reprinted the words exchanged between Brent Leung and Dr. Luc Montagnier. Here, you'll see that, in fact, Brent Leung did not quote Montagnier out of context, and that Montagnier makes his position crystal clear on points such as how nutrition may help reverse an AIDS infection.What this transcript (and video) proves is that Leung's critics are, in fact, deeply misinformed in their accusations of Leung, and are guilty of printing false and defamatory information that accuses Leung of distorting the interviews used in his film. Read this transcript to see for yourself:Leung [the filmmaker]: You talked about oxidative stress earlier. Is treating oxidative stress one of the best ways to deal with the African AIDS epidemic?Montagnier [the scientist]: I think this is one way to approach, to decrease the rate of transmission, because I believe HIV we can be exposed to HIV many times without bring chronically infected, our immune system will get rid of the virus within a few weeks, if you have a good immune system; and this is the problem also of the African people. Their nutrition is not very equilibrated, they are in oxidative stress, even if they are not infected with HIV; so their immune system doesn't work well already. So it's prone, it can, you know, allow HIV to get in and persist. So there are many ways which are not the vaccine, the magic name, the vaccine, many ways to decrease the transmission just by simple measures of nutrition, giving antioxidants -- proper antioxidants -- hygiene measures, fighting the other infections. So they are not spectacular, but they could, you know, decrease very well the epidemic, to the level they are in occidental countries, western countries.Leung: So if you have a good immune system, then your body can naturally get rid of HIV?Montagnier: Yes.Leung: Oh, interesting. Do you think we should have more of a push for antioxidants, and things of that nature, in Africa than antiretrovirals (AIDS drugs)?Montagnier: We should push for more, you know, a combination of measures; antioxidants, nutrition advice, nutritions, fighting other infections -- malaria, tuberculosis, parasitosis, worms -- education of course, genital hygiene for women and men also, very simple measures which [are] not very expensive, but which could do a lot. And this is my, actually my worry about the many spectacular action for the global funds to buy drugs and so on, and Bill Gates and so on, for the vaccine. But you know those kind of measures are not very well funded, they're not funded at all, or they are, you know, it really depends on the local government to take choice of this, but local governments they take advice of the scientific advisors from the intelligent institutions, and they don't get this kind of advice very often.Leung: Well there's no money in nutrition, right? There's no profit.Montagnier: There's no profit, yes. Water is important. Water is key.Leung: Now one thing you said, you were talking about the fact that if you have a built immune system, it is possible to get rid of HIV naturally. If you take a poor African who's been infected and you build up their immune system, is it possible for them to also naturally get rid of it?Montagnier: [Nodding yes] I would think so.Leung: That's an important point.Montagnier: It's important knowledge which is completely neglected. People always think of drugs and vaccine. So this is a message which may be different from what you heard before, no?Leung: The closing?Montagnier: No, no, yes, my message, it's different from what you heard from (Anthony) Fauci or...Leung: Yes, it's a little different.Montagnier: Little different.As you can see from this transcript (and from watching the video), Leung asks no loaded questions and engages in no trickery whatsoever. If anything, Leung is quite reserved in his questioning, preferring to allow Montagnier to do most of the talking. In particular, Leung does not interrupt Montagnier, nor does he attempt to verbally entrap him in any way.For his part, Dr. Montagnier doesn't mince words. He's very clear on the points he's making, saying them several times in different ways. His points are, essentially (paraphrased):• You can be exposed to AIDS without getting infected.• A strong immune system can protect you against AIDS.• With the help of good nutrition, you can fight off AIDS.• The importance of AIDS vaccines is exaggerated.• AIDS can be approached with low-cost, highly-effective alternatives to vaccines.• What the African people really need is better nutrition to protect themselves from AIDS.• The facts about nutrition and AIDS are being neglected (by the medical establishment).He's not wishy-washy about these things. He speaks with clear intent and does not waver on these points. At the end of the interview, before the cameras are turned off, he even acknowledges to Leung that what he just said was essentially a "bombshell" of information that stands at odds with conventional AIDS scientists such as Fauci.Now, if you go back to themovie and watch the clips of Leung's conversation with Montagnier, you'll find that the quotes used in the film are right in line with what Montagnier is saying in his un-cut conversation. There is absolutely no distortion, no out-of-context quoting going on here. If anything, Leung has acted in a very professional way in choosing quotes for the final film that accurately reflect the essence of what Montagnier is communicating.And for that, Leung gets blasted by critics and accused of misrepresenting what these scientists are saying. That's because the conventional AIDS-pharma proponents can't stand up to real-world scrutiny. Their AIDS mythologies are based on lies and disinformation, so instead of engaging in intelligent debate based on the available evidence, they simply attack any person who questions the tenants of their AIDS-pharma cult.The drug companies don't want you to know the truth about AIDS... or cancer, or diabetes or heart disease. There's a simple truth that, if widely acknowledged, would absolutely devastate the pharmaceutical industry with all its heavily-promoted vaccines and patented chemicals. What simple truth is that?. Cancer has a cure. Diabetes can be cured. Heart disease can be cured. The list goes on and on...When the co-discoverer of the AIDS virus says, on camera, that essentially AIDS can be cured with nutrition, he is speaking athat the drug companies (and their minions) cannot tolerate. If people knew that AIDS could be halted -- or even reversed -- with nutrients such as antioxidants, they might not put so much faith in the billions of dollars worth of vaccines being pushed all around the world by not only Big Pharma, but even Bill and Melinda Gates, too (who have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into the pockets of the drug companies to inject more children with vaccines).This is why Brent Leung's film www.HouseOfNumbers.com ) is simultaneously so courageous and so relevant to modern health care. It's the first film to stand up and declare, "The AIDS Emperor wears no clothes!" This film, in fact, presents stunning evidence that, in many ways, exposes Big Pharma's AIDS vaccine scam. No wonder Leung is being so viciously attacked by the AIDS industry. Hundreds of thousands of jobs in the sick-care industry depend on more people being diagnosed with AIDS and treated with monopoly-priced drugs!The AIDS industry's attacks against Brent Leung aren't over yet. Under pressure from proponents of the conventional AIDS industry, two more scientists interviewed for the film have now claimed their words were also taken out of context.Through an exclusive arrangement with Brent Leung,, proving beyond any question that their words were in no way distorted by Leung. Watch for those exclusive clips in the days ahead...Meanwhile, I thought about calling some of the accusers over at the "AIDS truth" website, but they have a statement on their website that already says everything you need to know:Got all that? In other words,Fascinating bit of, isn't it? This is precisely how the entire conventional AIDS industry works, by the way: You're either "on board" with their current AIDS vaccine mythology, or you're ostracized and shunned by the whole crowd. With such a polarizing philosophy in place, it's obviously impossible to talk to these people on any intelligent level. No facts, no evidence, no science will even be considered by them unless it "pre-agrees" with their foredrawn conclusions.This is why-- and it never will. The "search for a cure for AIDS" is about as hopeless (and fraudulent) as the search for a cure for cancer.. It would put too many people out of a job and cost billions in lost profits.To keep the profits flowing, the AIDS industry has to keep the propaganda pumping, too, and that requires attacking anyone who dares to stand up and speak the truth about AIDS, HIV and vaccines. The situation is actually worse than that: Leung merely stood up andabout AIDS and HIV. He didn't shove his own conclusions down our throats. He didn't create a distorted, one-sided documentary. In fact, Leung goes out of his way to present views from scientists who disagree on many points. If anything, Leung has gone to great lengths to keep his own opinion out of the film.It is a sad day in our modern world when a young filmmakeris vilified by a multi-billion-dollar industry that depends on sickness and disease to stay in business. Rather than being attacked,. We need more people like Leung in the world, asking more questions about more diseases (and the fraudulent industries behind them).Of course, I know all too well what it's like to be in Leung's shoes. As someone who has spent the last several years asking similar questions in print, I know that in our modern world,. There is little tolerance in our profit-driven system of corporate greed for people who ask legitimate journalistic questions. The very act of asking questions is, in and of itself, now considered practically traitorous.The mainstream media isn't asking the tough questions anymore... it has already surrendered its soul to Big Business. There's no room for independent thinkers in our global corporate propaganda machine, and those who attempt to ask reasonable questions will always be condemned for stepping out of line and daring to challenge the status quo.Watch trailers and clips forhere:The film isn't yet released to the public, but we expect to see a distribution deal in the works soon, and NaturalNews will alert you of when and where you can see the entire film once it's available.