Four former aides to President Obama — Jon Favreau, Dan Pfeiffer, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor — are joined by journalists, politicians, comedians, and activists for a freewheeling conversation about politics, the press and the challenges posed by the Trump presidency.

Trump continues to sabotage Obamacare, threatens to pull media licenses, threatens the NFL’s tax exemption, wishes for more nuclear weapons, and yells that he hates everyone in the White House. Then Michigan Senator Debbie Stabenow talks to Ana and Dan in Ann Arbor, and Michigan gubernatorial candidate Dr. Abdul El-Sayed talks to Ana and Jon.