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Sr. MemberActivity: 315Merit: 250 Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September September 24, 2013, 03:25:48 AM #581



Ok - here is the new twist...... it is entirely possible that PayPal has run out of BFL funds to chargeback as they answered my request by saying I should call my credit card company.....



I attempted to do this two - three weeks ago and was denied a chargeback from Amex as the period was past their 90 day cut off...... One last hail mary was in order and - Holy. Fucking. Shit. they disputed the charges and have suspended 12 singles worth of March orders back to my account pending a fraud investigation.



Also, I confirmed explicitly with Amex that if BFL sent product as a response to the charge back that I would refuse the shipment and Amex agreed that in such a situation the chargeback would proceed - we are talking just shy of $17,000 spread over 4 orders



Thank you AMEX - I love you. Really, I do.



And thank you PayPal for telling me to call my credit card company again.



Onward and upward....



And, yes Josh. This monkey is dancing.



cross post from PP refund threadOk - here is the new twist...... it is entirely possible that PayPal has run out of BFL funds to chargeback as they answered my request by saying I should call my credit card company.....I attempted to do this two - three weeks ago and was denied a chargeback from Amex as the period was past their 90 day cut off...... One last hail mary was in order and - Holy. Fucking. Shit. they disputed the charges and have suspended 12 singles worth of March orders back to my account pending a fraud investigation.Also, I confirmed explicitly with Amex that if BFL sent product as a response to the charge back that I would refuse the shipment and Amex agreed that in such a situation the chargeback would proceed - we are talking just shy of $17,000 spread over 4 ordersThank you AMEX - I love you. Really, I do.And thank you PayPal for telling me to call my credit card company again.Onward and upward....And, yes Josh. This monkey is dancing.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 315Merit: 250 Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September September 24, 2013, 05:24:23 AM #583 Quote from: joeventura on September 24, 2013, 04:01:50 AM Quote from: BKM on September 24, 2013, 03:25:48 AM cross post from PP refund thread



Ok - here is the new twist...... it is entirely possible that PayPal has run out of BFL funds to chargeback as they answered my request by saying I should call my credit card company.....







Did you use the back door guy at Paypal who is familiar with the situation and were told that?





Did you use the back door guy at Paypal who is familiar with the situation and were told that?

I followed the steps that were provided by lajz99 and the result was that PayPal stated: "Please contact your credit card company directly regarding additional details and/or concerns, as chargebacks are initiated through them." Per my post I had gone down that road before and was not optimistic that I would be successful by trying again. I tried and it worked. This may solely be a function of Amex but I have heard of others being successful with long term chargebacks with CC companies like Visa. It may also be that BFL is flagged somehow. Whatever the case - I'm a happy monkey! I followed the steps that were provided by lajz99 and the result was that PayPal stated: "Please contact your credit card company directly regarding additional details and/or concerns, as chargebacks are initiated through them." Per my post I had gone down that road before and was not optimistic that I would be successful by trying again. I tried and it worked. This may solely be a function of Amex but I have heard of others being successful with long term chargebacks with CC companies like Visa. It may also be that BFL is flagged somehow. Whatever the case - I'm a happy monkey!

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Last edit: September 24, 2013, 08:04:48 PM by joeventura #588 Quote from: joeventura on September 17, 2013, 04:29:32 PM Predictions now for September 30th for where shipping will be for each product line:





Jalapenos: 5/22/2013



Little Singles: 3/2/2013



Singles: 2/25/2013



MiniRig: 7/21/2012 (oldest unfilled order)







With 6 days left looks like it going to be:



Jalapenos: 2/28/2013 (Looks like they outsourced to some real sloooow starters) (miss by 61 days)



Little Singles: 12/6/2012 (Must have ran out of parts..........again) (miss by 145 days)



Singles: 2/21/2013 (I was close on this one) (miss by 68 days)



MiniRig: 7/18/2012 (Also close on this one) (miss by 286 days)





Only going to miss it by 560 days Josh!! Good thing you didn't promise.



I PROMISE YOU WON'T MAKE IT!



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##*# With 6 days left looks like it going to be:Jalapenos: 2/28/2013 (Looks like they outsourced to some real sloooow starters) (miss by 61 days)Little Singles: 12/6/2012 (Must have ran out of parts..........again) (miss by 145 days)Singles: 2/21/2013 (I was close on this one) (miss by 68 days)MiniRig: 7/18/2012 (Also close on this one) (miss by 286 days)Only going to miss it by 560 days Josh!! Good thing you didn't promise.I PROMISE YOU WON'T MAKE IT!##*#