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6:39 am

February 24, 2010

rpulkrabek Member posts 166 21 0 Ok, I can help Rizwan depending on what he feels. I can try to get some preferred OHKLA renders for these slides too. For the time being, I will keep the diameter at 200 mm and use the oxidizer tank that was too short. I can send you a PM with the dropbox account information.

6:46 am

February 24, 2010

Luke Maurits Adelaide, Australia Admin posts 1204 22 0 The 200 mm diameter render with the too small tank will do just fine, it is close enough to what our final design will be that it conveys the right intuition about size etc. It also look really good. Thanks for the PM! I'll post here again once I have my slides in the drop box. Main CLLARE workgroups: Mission Planning, Navigation and Guidance. I do maths, physics, C, Python and Java.

8:17 am

February 24, 2010

Luke Maurits Adelaide, Australia Admin posts 1204 23 0 I have uploaded my CLLARE slides to DropBox, in the "SpaceUp Materials" folder. There are no pictures in there currently, the plan is that eventually each page introducing one of the hardware modules will also have a rendering of that module, and then at the end there will be a rendering of the entire stack. Anybody can feel free to make any changes or comments while I am waiting on the graphics. Main CLLARE workgroups: Mission Planning, Navigation and Guidance. I do maths, physics, C, Python and Java.

10:11 am

February 24, 2010

Rocket-To-The-Moon Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA Member posts 639 24 0 Do you have any specific requests for renders? Just let me know and I will see what I can do. Main Workgroups: Propulsion & Spacecraft Engineering

11:45 am

February 24, 2010

Rocket-To-The-Moon Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA Member posts 639 25 0 Post edited 11:51 am – February 24, 2010 by Rocket-To-The-Moon

Here are two versions. The first one obviously isn't structurally sound, it would need some trussing to make it rigid. Instead of attaching the lander to the CM's nose I attached it to the top ring of the propulsion module so that launch forces are not transferred through the CM structure. The second one is based off of the old CLLARE concept. All I did was replace the old lander with the new one. Main Workgroups: Propulsion & Spacecraft Engineering

12:05 pm

February 24, 2010

brmj Rochester, New York, United States Member posts 379 26 0 Good work. A few issues: I thought we were planning on a single tank for the PM now, rather than a cluster of four. Also, I'm pretty sure we were looking at making the OSM a frustum of a cone attached to the back of the CM and continuing its shape, rather than the old cluster of tanks design. This is definitely a step in the right direction, though. Main work groups: Propulsion (booster), Spacecraft Engineering, Computer Systems, Navigation and Guidance (software)

12:17 pm

February 24, 2010

Rocket-To-The-Moon Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA Member posts 639 27 0 Unfortunately I am quite time limited at the moment which is why I tried to recycle old stuff as much as possible. I will let the discussion play out here before I make changes so that I don't have to do so many iterations. Main Workgroups: Propulsion & Spacecraft Engineering

12:25 pm

February 24, 2010

brmj Rochester, New York, United States Member posts 379 28 0 Fair enough. Main work groups: Propulsion (booster), Spacecraft Engineering, Computer Systems, Navigation and Guidance (software)

12:30 pm

February 24, 2010

brmj Rochester, New York, United States Member posts 379 29 0 Just so everyone knows, I recived a bunch of stickers from One Flag In Space this morning. Main work groups: Propulsion (booster), Spacecraft Engineering, Computer Systems, Navigation and Guidance (software)

6:41 pm

February 24, 2010

Luke Maurits Adelaide, Australia Admin posts 1204 30 0 Good to know the stickers got to you in time! As for the renders, I second both of brmj's comments. The PM is described in the overview document as consisting of a single tank with an interior separating bulkhead, since this minimises the empty tank mass. The OSM is a truncated cone in shape, since it has to contain not just a few consumables tanks, but also retrorockets for deorbit and some RCS thrusters. I understand you're pressed for time. If you don't have time to attend to these things, it isn't a huge problem, we can use the renders you have provided here (the top one, I think). If you do get a chance to address either of these issues, though, it would be fantastic. Also, to the extent that it is possible given however you have set the models up in SketchUp, renders of each component (CM, OSM, PM, LL) just by itself would be great, but if you can't then again that is fine. Main CLLARE workgroups: Mission Planning, Navigation and Guidance. I do maths, physics, C, Python and Java.

11:56 pm

February 24, 2010

Rocket-To-The-Moon Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA Member posts 639 31 0 Sure thing. Do you have a deadline in mind? Main Workgroups: Propulsion & Spacecraft Engineering

2:20 am

February 25, 2010

rpulkrabek Member posts 166 32 0 Has anyone done any work with the OHKLA presentation? If not, I can try to put something together following the guidlines on the Wave. On another note, do we have any templates we should be using? It would be great to sometime have an official CSTART template used for any presentations or other documents.

2:30 am

February 25, 2010

Luke Maurits Adelaide, Australia Admin posts 1204 33 0 Rizwan mentioned in an email this morning that he would not have time to do the OHKLA presentation himself, so it would be fantastic if you could handle it. I agree that an official template would be a great idea – I actually mentioned this in IRC the other night. Right now there is no such thing, but if you are starting from scratch you could copy the opening frame of my presentation (it's in the DropBox) so they at least match on that front. Main CLLARE workgroups: Mission Planning, Navigation and Guidance. I do maths, physics, C, Python and Java.

3:30 am

February 25, 2010

rpulkrabek Member posts 166 34 0 Luke Maurits said: Rizwan mentioned in an email this morning that he would not have time to do the OHKLA presentation himself, so it would be fantastic if you could handle it. Ok, I will see what I can do. I will see if I can get most of it done tonight when I get home to my PC.

10:57 am

February 25, 2010

Rizwan Admin posts 161 35 0 The CSTART Business Card, I am not sure whether we want to print and distribute these, due to the priniting costs. The pdf which can be used for printing can be found here.

1:15 am

February 26, 2010

brmj Rochester, New York, United States Member posts 379 37 0 It looks great. It still needs just a little work, though. Most importantly, it needs the duplicate slides so that it fits in the ignite format. Some less important ones: on slide 4, it should either be "from all trades" or "from all walks of life". On slide 8, if the new renders get done in time, it would be great if you could swap the image out for one of them. On slide 9, It should be noted that CSXT doesn't appear to be a company and I don't think Masten Space Systems has done space missions yet, just VTOL rocket testing. Also, we may want to include Orbital Sciences Corporation in the list. They do a lot of government work, but the Pegesus was essentially their own, private project, if I remember correctly. On the tenth slide, "flushing out" should be "fleshing out"/p> Main work groups: Propulsion (booster), Spacecraft Engineering, Computer Systems, Navigation and Guidance (software)

4:31 am

February 26, 2010

DenisG Saarbrücken, Germany (GMT+1) Member posts 69 38 0 It has been mentioned somewhere, forgot where, is that it may be possible to get additional (maybe substantial) funding from the government or non-government foundations. Maybe Obama's new space plan has some funds that we can tap? Does Europe have a programme that we can apply for? Also, there are LOTS of aerospace foundations with substantial money behind them where we could apply for grants. Just to name a few programmes and organizations found on the first page of a google search: http://www.earthandspace.org/ http://www.spacegrant.org/ http://www.spacex.org/grantmaking.shtml http://spacefrontier.org/ http://national.spacegrant.org/ http://casgc.ucsd.edu/ and so on and so on. Maybe there are some potential friends of CSTART too?

5:59 am

February 26, 2010

rpulkrabek Member posts 166 39 0 I'm trying to work on the OHKLA presentation. I am a bit pressed for time, but I am getting the bulk of it ready. I'm trying to keep it consistent with the other presentations too. One thing I have noticed is that with the CLLARE presentation, we are using a motto that says “Space exploration, by anybody, for everybody”, but the website and the presentation Rizwan worked on says, "“Space exploration, by anyone, for everyone”. Let's get this fixed.