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LegendaryActivity: 1666Merit: 1211 Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts August 29, 2016, 06:55:17 AM #4063 Quote from: markisanon2434 on August 29, 2016, 06:53:14 AM Quote from: Anon136 on August 29, 2016, 12:30:40 AM Hi Bitpop! Long time!



Guys you need a marketing re-brand. I cringe every time I hear the phrase "Eithereum classic". You guys arent "Ethereum classic". You are just Ethereum. They are the ones who hard forked. NOT YOU. Please stop calling yourself Ethereum classic and instead refer to this project as just Ethereum.



There is a problem with this you say? How will people know which Ethereum you are talking about. Simple. The guys on the fork should hence forth be referred to as "Neo-Ethereum".



Please. Spread the word. The guys who are actually Ethereum, real Ethereum, shouldn't be referring to themselves as "Ethereum classic". Do not let your opposition control language especially when you guys have the intellectual and moral high ground.



That's a great idea. But its gonna take hell of an effort. ETC needs to have some solid strong DAPPs and the rest will be history. I hope ETC will be able to reach the same level as of ETH. I know there are people who wants ETC to overtake ETH but, we need to consider the reality. And I don't see much hope for now. The devs have to work and release a solid DAPP. I understand its easy to post anything on the thread, but I simply like your post! With supporters like you, ETC may be the next best thing in the future

That's a great idea. But its gonna take hell of an effort. ETC needs to have some solid strong DAPPs and the rest will be history. I hope ETC will be able to reach the same level as of ETH. I know there are people who wants ETC to overtake ETH but, we need to consider the reality. And I don't see much hope for now. The devs have to work and release a solid DAPP. I understand its easy to post anything on the thread, but I simply like your post! With supporters like you, ETC may be the next best thing in the future

I just can't stand hypocrites.



I just can't stand hypocrites.

If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited? Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041 If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?

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Last edit: September 17, 2016, 10:27:45 PM by mprep #4065 Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 29, 2016, 05:04:37 AM I worry about ETC. It is like the miners are ready to right away dump everything they earn and when the price is now very low, they are also ready to leave and point all their power on ETH. Is there any update from Charles Hoskinson? What are they planning?



Where have you been reading? Do you mean Ethereum Miners? Some Ethereum Classic miners have been put off due to all the ddos attacks but we have defended the coin well and a core group of mining is strong.

They are well organised and keep in contact via Ethereum Classic Forum and Slack.



Message Charles on slack if you want to speak to him, you can join here



Quote from: CraigWrightBTC on August 29, 2016, 03:15:04 AM

Well i have be comfortable with ethereum classic, and i think it is mean real ethereum. We need another innovation for ETC is like making wallet ETC on android platform or another ideas. Than we change name of ethereum classic.



Phone wallts due in October please read the DEVCHAT on the regular "shoutout" for info on development...and here it comes....



Wait for it.... Where have you been reading? Do you mean Ethereum Miners? Some Ethereum Classic miners have been put off due to all the ddos attacks but we have defended the coin welland a core group of mining is strong.They are well organised and keep in contact via Ethereum Classic Forum and Slack.Message Charles on slack if you want to speak to him, you can join here https://ethereumclassic.herokuapp.com Then you will here stuff first hand, He will talk to anyone who is interested in ECT. Nice bloke!Phone wallts due in October please read the DEVCHAT on the regular "shoutout" for info on development...and here it comes....Wait for it.... Everything You Have Ever Learnt Is Wrong https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbTERbvtyYaNxRKzvUdwIF664Nt9hm_p

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts August 29, 2016, 08:40:57 AM #4068 Quote from: vlom on August 29, 2016, 08:20:56 AM Quote from: greenuser on August 29, 2016, 08:09:05 AM



Wallets here:

Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum) by whatisgravity

https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

Get new "etc only" geth node here



Get new "etc only" geth node here https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases/tag/6aaf5f3

i am still not sure how to do this. if i download this version i have to apps called Ethereum-Wallet.

i need a forked version because i have eth.



is it possible to just rename the wallet i need for etc to Ethereum-Wallet-c.app?



i am using OS X.

i am still not sure how to do this. if i download this version i have to apps called Ethereum-Wallet.i need a forked version because i have eth.is it possible to just rename the wallet i need for etc to Ethereum-Wallet-c.app?i am using OS X.

You can rename "Ethereum-Wallet-c.app" to just "geth" if you wish, that is what I did.

Read the github on the link,



"Geth 1.4.10 build that is exclusively for the Ethereum Classic network. This node has all the DAO code removed from the client and requires no additional flags to use the Ethereum classic network." by whatisgravity



I would not recommend putting this "geth" wallet on the same machine that has been running the forked version unless you know what you are doing. It will pick up your eth keystore and use your eth address. This is where you can get replays if you do this.



Also you will have the wrong blocks in the roaming folder. You need to start from fresh on a new machine or remove all your eth files from your machine and do the "geth account new" command in geth to get a new address and new "keystore".



Remember to keep your keystore backed up. It contains info to recreate you wallet on any machine



Your old "Mist" will work fine as a GUI to access your new "geth" node address



Why not use a light wallet for one chain and a full node wallet for the other chain? You can rename "Ethereum-Wallet-c.app" to just "geth" if you wish, that is what I did.Read the github on the link,by whatisgravityI would not recommend putting this "geth" wallet on the same machine that has been running the forked version unless you know what you are doing. It will pick up your eth keystore and use your eth address. This is where you can get replays if you do this.Also you will have the wrong blocks in the roaming folder. You need to start from fresh on a new machine or remove all your eth files from your machine and do the "geth account new" command in geth to get a new address and new "keystore".Remember to keep your keystore backed up. It contains info to recreate you wallet on any machineYour old "Mist" will work fine as a GUI to access your new "geth" node addressWhy not use a light wallet for one chain and a full node wallet for the other chain? Everything You Have Ever Learnt Is Wrong https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbTERbvtyYaNxRKzvUdwIF664Nt9hm_p

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Last edit: August 29, 2016, 09:44:11 AM by greenuser #4069 Quote from: pawlo74 on August 29, 2016, 08:11:07 AM Quote from: Anon136 on August 29, 2016, 03:06:29 AM Quote from: raphma on August 29, 2016, 02:35:42 AM Quote from: Anon136 on August 29, 2016, 12:30:40 AM Hi Bitpop! Long time!



Guys you need a marketing re-brand. I cringe every time I hear the phrase "Eithereum classic". You guys arent "Ethereum classic". You are just Ethereum. They are the ones who hard forked. NOT YOU. Please stop calling yourself Ethereum classic and instead refer to this project as just Ethereum.



There is a problem with this you say? How will people know which Ethereum you are talking about. Simple. The guys on the fork should hence forth be referred to as "Neo-Ethereum".



Please. Spread the word. The guys who are actually Ethereum, real Ethereum, shouldn't be referring to themselves as "Ethereum classic". Do not let your opposition control language especially when you guys have the intellectual and moral high ground.



I thought I was the only one who thought so.

ETC really need to take back the "ethereum" name... let eth foundation rebrand.



but unfortunately, this is kinda already established, so it won't be easy.

I thought I was the only one who thought so.ETC really need to take back the "ethereum" name... let eth foundation rebrand.but unfortunately, this is kinda already established, so it won't be easy.

Just gotta start saying it right. Be the agent of change. If a few people start doing it. And a few more follow. I bet it will catch like wild fire.

Just gotta start saying it right. Be the agent of change. If a few people start doing it. And a few more follow. I bet it will catch like wild fire.

Yes correct, I feel like they stole our brand.

Yes correct, I feel like they stole our brand.

We understand, we feel like slockit stole our network. I did not invest in the Dao but i loved "Ethereum coin" (eth). I am not going to abandon the chain i love for the "customers" that use it for bad coding. They should have had the Dao code "peer reviewed" by the community. Slockit screwed up! Slockit and Dao people should have took the pain, but them and "eth devs" wanted all Eth holders to pay the price. They burnt your/our brand!

Never mind, its done now.



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In addition however, Code is law?



If Eugene and Vladimir want to have a $10 bet on who will win US election so it could be done like this.



Eugene bets Hillary will win. Vladimir bets Trump will win.

Eugene and Vladimir both give Mohamed $10,

After election Mohamed gets a US newspaper to see who won. Trump has won!

Mohamed gives $20 to winner Vladimir



Eugene cries "no, we did not shake hands, I had my fingers crossed, I will take you to court fetch the law",

Big fight starts. A Judge has to make a judgement. Eugene threatens Mohamed, Police are called.



======== Or ========



If Eugene and Vladimir want to have a $10 bet on who will win US election so it could be done like this.



Eugene bets Hillary will win. Vladimir bets Trump will win.

Eugene and Vladimir get Mohamed to write a SMART CONTRACT.

They both agree that the unstoppable code will judge the outcome and input $10 .

After the election the SMART CONTRACT scans all the media from lots of different sources and decided that the evidence says Trump has won.

SMART CONTRACT pays Vladimir



Eugene cries "no, we did not shake hands, I had my fingers crossed, I will take you to court fetch the law",

Big fight starts. No Judge has to make a judgement, code is law.



Eugene goes to the Federal Reserve and asks Ben Bernanke to recall all the dollar bills and issue new ones called fork-dollar bills?



"But I thought SMART CONTRACT means you don't need to trust a 3rd party?" said Vladimir & Mohamed We understand, we feel like slockit stole our network. I did not invest in the Dao but i loved "Ethereum coin" (eth). I am not going to abandon the chain i love for the "customers" that use it for bad coding. They should have had the Dao code "peer reviewed" by the community. Slockit screwed up! Slockit and Dao people should have took the pain, but them and "eth devs" wanted all Eth holders to pay the price. They burnt your/our brand!Never mind, its done now.================================In addition however, Code is law?If Eugene and Vladimir want to have a $10 bet on who will win US election so it could be done like this.Eugene bets Hillary will win. Vladimir bets Trump will win.Eugene and Vladimir both give Mohamed $10,After election Mohamed gets a US newspaper to see who won. Trump has won!Mohamed gives $20 to winner VladimirEugene cries "Big fight starts. A Judge has to make a judgement. Eugene threatens Mohamed, Police are called.================If Eugene and Vladimir want to have a $10 bet on who will win US election so it could be done like this.Eugene bets Hillary will win. Vladimir bets Trump will win.Eugene and Vladimir get Mohamed to write a SMART CONTRACT.They both agree that the unstoppable code will judge the outcome and input $10 .After the election the SMART CONTRACT scans all the media from lots of different sources and decided that the evidence says Trump has won.SMART CONTRACT pays VladimirEugene criesBig fight starts. No Judge has to make a judgement, code is law.Eugene goes to the Federal Reserve and asks Ben Bernanke to recallthe dollar bills and issue new ones called fork-dollar bills?"But I thought SMART CONTRACT means you don't need to trust a 3rd party?" said Vladimir & Mohamed Everything You Have Ever Learnt Is Wrong https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbTERbvtyYaNxRKzvUdwIF664Nt9hm_p

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LegendaryActivity: 1589Merit: 1002 Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts August 29, 2016, 09:38:34 AM #4071 I see some discussion here again about Hybrid POW/POS - and a switch to some new POW algo which is entirely novel.



You need to understand that ETC needs to have some serious DEV horsepower to carry this off



IMO way too early for this - ETC needs to FOLLOW ETH for now (but diffuse diff bomb as a matter of urgency) or quickly fall away in utility since all functionality will disintegrate or be inextricably be delayed while devs catch up.



As I've stated before - my vote is clearly to go to POS



Where is the statement relating to how voting is going to work for ETC? This is rather critical.



as for this idea about truly decentralised governance - been there - DONE THAT - DAO



quote Greeny - No body is in charge of ethereum classic, we have no leader. We are all supporters. Holy feck! Chandler might appreciate this - how about we throw a headless chicken into the cockfight. Guess what happens........... --





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Last edit: August 29, 2016, 03:51:44 PM by greenuser #4072 Quote from: usukan on August 29, 2016, 09:38:34 AM I see some discussion here again about Hybrid POW/POS - and a switch to some new POW algo which is entirely novel.



You need to understand that ETC needs to have some serious DEV horsepower to carry this off





We have decentralized governance model. If you want to bring about change in this coin, feel fee, join our slack and make a go of it.

You will be made welcome. However: no one has control, even some of our Devs are anonymous, they code and get paid in crypto.

We could have anyone working for us for all we know, Eth Devs? Dao hacker? Satoshi himself? Frank who cleans my windows?

We will never know!

Do we need to know, if the code is checked and rechecked by different people.

People that have not met or do not know each others name or country they live in? We have decentralized governance model. If you want to bring about change in this coin, feel fee, join our slack and make a go of it.You will be made welcome. However: no one has control, even some of our Devs are anonymous, they code and get paid in crypto.Wehave anyone working for us for all we know, Eth Devs? Dao hacker? Satoshi himself? Frank who cleans my windows?We will never know!Do we need to know, if the code is checked and rechecked by different people.People that have not met or do not know each others name or country they live in? Everything You Have Ever Learnt Is Wrong https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbTERbvtyYaNxRKzvUdwIF664Nt9hm_p

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Last edit: August 29, 2016, 10:08:34 AM by pawlo74 #4073 Quote from: greenuser on August 29, 2016, 08:59:55 AM Quote from: pawlo74 on August 29, 2016, 08:11:07 AM Quote from: Anon136 on August 29, 2016, 03:06:29 AM Quote from: raphma on August 29, 2016, 02:35:42 AM Quote from: Anon136 on August 29, 2016, 12:30:40 AM Hi Bitpop! Long time!



Guys you need a marketing re-brand. I cringe every time I hear the phrase "Eithereum classic". You guys arent "Ethereum classic". You are just Ethereum. They are the ones who hard forked. NOT YOU. Please stop calling yourself Ethereum classic and instead refer to this project as just Ethereum.



There is a problem with this you say? How will people know which Ethereum you are talking about. Simple. The guys on the fork should hence forth be referred to as "Neo-Ethereum".



Please. Spread the word. The guys who are actually Ethereum, real Ethereum, shouldn't be referring to themselves as "Ethereum classic". Do not let your opposition control language especially when you guys have the intellectual and moral high ground.



I thought I was the only one who thought so.

ETC really need to take back the "ethereum" name... let eth foundation rebrand.



but unfortunately, this is kinda already established, so it won't be easy.

I thought I was the only one who thought so.ETC really need to take back the "ethereum" name... let eth foundation rebrand.but unfortunately, this is kinda already established, so it won't be easy.

Just gotta start saying it right. Be the agent of change. If a few people start doing it. And a few more follow. I bet it will catch like wild fire.

Just gotta start saying it right. Be the agent of change. If a few people start doing it. And a few more follow. I bet it will catch like wild fire.

Yes correct, I feel like they stole our brand.

Yes correct, I feel like they stole our brand.

We understand, we feel like slockit stole our network. I did not invest in the Dao but i loved "Ethereum coin" (eth). I am not going to abandon the chain i love for the "customers" that use it for bad coding. They should have had the Dao code "peer reviewed" by the community. Slockit screwed up! Slockit and Dao people should have took the pain, but them and "eth devs" wanted all Eth holders to pay the price. They burnt your/our brand!

Never mind, its done now.



We understand, we feel like slockit stole our network. I did not invest in the Dao but i loved "Ethereum coin" (eth). I am not going to abandon the chain i love for the "customers" that use it for bad coding. They should have had the Dao code "peer reviewed" by the community. Slockit screwed up! Slockit and Dao people should have took the pain, but them and "eth devs" wanted all Eth holders to pay the price. They burnt your/our brand!Never mind, its done now.

Yes agreed. I ment slockit, dao and corrupt people from EF stole our brand. Our brand is and always was ETHEREUM. How cold you even think different?? They should seek new name for their corrupt new chain. We are ETHEREUM we are not classic! Ethereum original chain is technology something more than devs, devs come and go, people live and die, technology is beyond. This is our chain, our name, our asset, we put our hard earned money in it. Corrupt people and devs abandoned our chain and I repeat stole our name! Yes agreed. I ment slockit, dao and corrupt people from EF stole our brand. Our brand is and always was ETHEREUM. How cold you even think different?? They should seek new name for their corrupt new chain. We are ETHEREUM we are not classic! Ethereum original chain is technology something more than devs, devs come and go, people live and die, technology is beyond. This is our chain, our name, our asset, we put our hard earned money in it. Corrupt people and devs abandoned our chain and I repeat stole our name!

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this is the simplest solution to all transactions for ETC



https://www.myetherwallet.com



Just make sure you are operating on https - bookmark it and ALWAYS use the bookmark. All signing is done client side and only the signed transaction is broadcast.



You can split SIMPLY to prevent replays and send ETC or ETH ONLY transactions. Save your wallet files on USB memory sticks - offline most of time. No syncing or Ethereum Wallet ever again. with regard to walletsthis is the simplest solution to all transactions for ETCJust make sure you are operating on- bookmark it and ALWAYS use the bookmark. All signing is done client side and only the signed transaction is broadcast.You can split SIMPLY to prevent replays and send ETC or ETH ONLY transactions. Save your wallet files on USB memory sticks - offline most of time.or Ethereum Wallet ever again. --





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Last edit: August 29, 2016, 10:18:19 AM by greenuser #4075 Quote from: usukan on August 29, 2016, 09:54:24 AM



this is the simplest solution to all transactions for ETC



https://www.myetherwallet.com



Just make sure you are operating on https - bookmark it and ALWAYS use the bookmark. All signing is done client side and only the signed transaction is broadcast.



You can split SIMPLY to prevent replays and send ETC or ETH ONLY transactions. Save your wallet files on USB memory sticks - offline most of time. No syncing or Ethereum Wallet ever again.

with regard to walletsthis is the simplest solution to all transactions for ETCJust make sure you are operating on- bookmark it and ALWAYS use the bookmark. All signing is done client side and only the signed transaction is broadcast.You can split SIMPLY to prevent replays and send ETC or ETH ONLY transactions. Save your wallet files on USB memory sticks - offline most of time.or Ethereum Wallet ever again.

We have our own



Light Client-Side Wallet by elaine

So no need to download the blockchain

Send with Replay Protection on the light wallet



take a look, remind you of anything? (



Maybe you should read and check out the shoutout posts "for thoes too shy to ask!"



We have 3 new wallets that have no eth stuff in, 4 soon! (Node, Light, Google chrome, and soon Android) We have our ownSo no need to download the blockchain https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#generate-wallet Send with Replay Protection on the light wallet https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#replay-protection take a look, remind you of anything? ( https://www.myetherwallet.com ) only all eth stuff removed!Maybe you should read and check out the shoutout posts "for thoes too shy to ask!"We have 3 new wallets that have no eth stuff in, 4 soon! (Node, Light, Google chrome, and soon Android) Everything You Have Ever Learnt Is Wrong https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbTERbvtyYaNxRKzvUdwIF664Nt9hm_p

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this is the simplest solution to all transactions for ETC



https://www.myetherwallet.com



Just make sure you are operating on https - bookmark it and ALWAYS use the bookmark. All signing is done client side and only the signed transaction is broadcast.



You can split SIMPLY to prevent replays and send ETC or ETH ONLY transactions. Save your wallet files on USB memory sticks - offline most of time. No syncing or Ethereum Wallet ever again.

with regard to walletsthis is the simplest solution to all transactions for ETCJust make sure you are operating on- bookmark it and ALWAYS use the bookmark. All signing is done client side and only the signed transaction is broadcast.You can split SIMPLY to prevent replays and send ETC or ETH ONLY transactions. Save your wallet files on USB memory sticks - offline most of time.or Ethereum Wallet ever again.

Careful with MEW. I lost 503 ETC in their stupid spliter contract. Be safe and use the ethereum classic version. Careful with MEW. I lost 503 ETC in their stupid spliter contract. Be safe and use the ethereum classic version.