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NBC Online poll puts lie to media poll narratives: Trump 54% and Stein 20% leads Clinton

Vanity | August 11, 2016 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on by jmaroneps37

Jim Rutenberg of the New York Times did Donald Trump and his supporters a great favor when he admitted the media was not being objective in its reporting on Trump. Last Sunday, without any self-consciousness, Rutenberg looked in our eyes and said, Yes we lie for Clinton. What you are going to do about it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/business/balance-fairness-and-a-proudly-provocative-presidential-candidate.html

His snarky up yours meshes perfectly with the polling fraud exposed in the DNC leaked Emails. They proved both CBS and NBC collaborate with the DNC to create false poll results favorable to Hillary Clinton.

Now comes an NBC online poll that is frankly astounding not only in its results but in the very fact that it is being run from yesterday and still open as of this writing.

http://nbcpoll.com/nbc-poll-vote-future-president-2/

The current results of this poll are as follows: of 81,186 votes cast Trump has 43,545 giving him 54% Jill Stein 16226 for 20% Hillary Clinton 13,037 for 16% and Gary Johnson 8378 for 10% of the vote.

We Trump supporters now have definitive forensic proof that the polls we are being fed by the large media outlets are universally faked.

A June 2015 New York Times article stated that just 8% of the people contacted by pollsters answer their questions. This leaves a huge 92% playground for the polling fraud we see has been established.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/opinion/sunday/whats-the-matter-with-polling.html

The results of NBCs poll destroy false media/Democrat narratives about their polls.

They argue: Saying Trump does better in online polls is just a way to avoid the truth that he is losing. Clearly this argument is no longer valid since Trump doesnt just do better in this on line poll, conducted by a major news organization, he laps the field.

They argue: There are more anti-Trump than pro-Trump votes out there and their only worry is the division of their strength among Hillary supporters Steins Green Party supporters Johnsons Libertarian supporters.

This argument has also been proved false as Trump beats the aggregate numbers of all three of his competitors in landslide fashion.

They argue: The strength of Gary Johnson is fueled by the deep well of NeverTrump sentiment among Republicans. This too is a hollow argument because Johnsons very poor showing proves he is the non-factor he always was.

They argue: The CNN poll showing 68% of voters dont trust Hilary Clinton is an anomaly; not actually representative of voter sentiment

Since 83% of voters in this NBC (Not Johnnys Fruit Stand) poll voted against Hillary Clinton maybe CNNs failing was not picking up enough of the voter distrust of Clinton.

Clearly, a strong case can be made that rather than Stein taking votes from Clinton it is Clinton who takes votes from Stein while Johnson takes votes from nobody.



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This is a very important poll. It makes many points we have been trying to prove for years.



To: jmaroneps37

What I found interesting about the poll is that the same voters who have Trump so far ahead also have overwhelming support for Sanders. I thought that the Trumpsters may have overloaded this poll, but that didn’t make sense after I saw the pro-Bernie results.



To: JudyinCanada

Yup :-)



by 3 posted onby jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)

To: jmaroneps37

This poll has as much validity as the official ones. No poll is any good this year.



by 4 posted onby BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)

To: jmaroneps37

Sundance has a related article up on theconservativetreehouse today. He said that apart from media polls, what evidence is there that Hillary’s anywhere close to Trump? Then Sundance mentioned that Trump’s venues are shadowing Hillary’s. [I.e.: Trump is following her from state to state.] This is so he can contrast her few hundreds with his 10,000+ rallies. Since the media won’t highlight the contrast, Trump is underscoring it daily.



by 5 posted onby Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)

To: jmaroneps37

I have to agree to some extent. I participated in this poll and it was an open internet access poll. No real scientific basis was in play that I know of. That said I polled for Trump and a whole bunch more did too. It probably fairly accurately describes the people’s favoring Trump over the MSMs penchant for Hillary.



by 6 posted onby Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long .as it's mandatory.)

To: jmaroneps37

Stein pulls from Hillary while Johnson pulls from both Hillary and to a lesser degree, Trump.



To: jmaroneps37

I consider it evidence that there is good reason to believe that Obama was NOT actually reelected but got his second term by fraud.



by 8 posted onby RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)

To: jmaroneps37

A June 2015 New York Times article stated that just 8% of the people contacted by pollsters answer their questions. WOW! If that is true, or rather if that still holds up in most of the published polls, you can just throw them away without reading them. It is not cheating, it is just that for the polls to have any predictive meaning the pollsters have to assume (or in some way show) that those few who actually respond are representative of all those who refuse to answer. I have pointed out earlier that what was usual previously, namely to mention how many non-responders had been encountered, does no longer appear in hardly any of the polls.



by 9 posted onby ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)

To: jmaroneps37

Online polls are notoriously inaccurate.

However, the official polls are not relecting reality, either.

There are people who will vote Trump who do not say so publicly out of fear of the derision heaped upon anyone who says so in the wrong circles.



by 10 posted onby Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)

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To: RipSawyer

+1 It all came down to Ohio. All they had to do was game a few counties, and they flipped the election.



by 12 posted onby Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)

To: jmaroneps37

“We Trump supporters now have definitive forensic proof that the polls we are being fed by the large media outlets are universally faked.” No.



To: Lurkinanloomin

“There are people who will vote Trump who do not say so publicly out of fear of the derision heaped upon anyone who says so in the wrong circles.” I heap derision on anyone who says he is going to vote for Hillary.



by 14 posted onby RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)

To: jmaroneps37

I’ve oft wondered about those that do not answer because it’s none of anyones business. Plus Liberals are the party of “change according to wind” so they live and die by them.

I would never answer, but I don’t think this poll can be used for any validation.

My 2016 christmas wishes:

1. Trump is Prez.

2. Clinton is in jail, roundly humiliated, and broke.

3. Liberals suffer crushing defeats in every single election.



To: BigEdLB

“This poll has as much validity as the official ones. No poll is any good this year.” Really? So the polls they feed us with 1267 respondents that we know for sure are fixed because of the Emails are “have as much validity as the “official” ones?” Really and what would a n “official poll” be anyway? So 66,000 with no thumb on the scale equals the tiny samples of “official polls.”



by 16 posted onby jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)

To: jmaroneps37

The poll let’s you vote over and over. Easily manipulated, however, I will say it is a good indicator of the enthusiasm of the supporters of each candidate.



To: jmaroneps37

Few things are more useless than online polls. I think even teats on a bull rank higher on the scale of usefulness.



by 18 posted onby Maceman (Black Leftist Mobs don't matter.)

To: jmaroneps37

No poll is any good tho year



by 19 posted onby BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)

To: bereanrabbi

The poll lets you vote over and over. Yeah, I was pretending to be democRat and voted for Trump twice. A useless poll.



by 20 posted onby FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)

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