Today on the Permanent Waves Podcast Rey and Ben are joined not only by friend of the podcast, Karina Maloney, but also by professional musician Joe Fadem, who plays drums for prog rock group Thank You Scientist! We talk about science, jazz music (jazz is weird), the power of farts, and - of course - the greatest rock band in the history of the world: Rush.

Ben and Rey were first exposed to Thank You Scientist years ago when they opened for Coheed and Cambria. If you haven't already, we recommend checking them out!

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