Composer, songwriter and San Fermin bandleader Ellis Ludwig-Leone first heard Paul Simon’s album Graceland when he was five years old. He was entranced by the lyrics and the sounds so much so that he is still affected and influenced by that record today. Listen as he describes why he loves the record and how it’s stuck with him throughout his musical journey.

Then John and Tracy Dell from the Austin band El Tule give host Elizabeth McQueen a lesson in cumbia and explain how music by bands like La Sonora Dinamita, Celso Piña, and Fruko y sus Tesos helped them find their sound as a band.

Watch San Fermin perform “No Devil” backstage at ACLfest on VuHaus

Watch San Fermin perform “Emily” backstage at ACLfest on Vuhaus

Listen to Paul Simon’s new song “Wristband”

Listen to El Tule’s studio 1A Performance

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