GAVIN McInnes has always been a divisive public figure.

The writer and comedian, who co-founded Vice and now writes for conservative news site Rebel Media, is renowned for spouting controversial views about masculinity, minorities, women and feminism’s lack of relevance, and transphobia being “perfectly natural”. For that, he remains unapologetic.

The polarising public figure also unabashedly supports Donald Trump and his proposal to ban Muslim immigrants and says the left is “going for sabotage with no plan B”.

Most recently, McInnes ripped apart The Project’s Waleed Aly after he condemned Trump’s “p***y grabbing” comments, criticising the co-host of “blowing up” and “dramatising” the media’s coverage of the US election.

During a segment on the Channel 10 program this week, Aly said it’s time to “stop joking” about the Republican presidential candidate, encouraging everyone to get behind the hashtag #TrumpIsNoLaughingMatter.

“Behind closed doors there is everything that makes our stomachs turn. The predatory nature. The privilege. The sexism. The double standard. The sinister motivation. Behind closed doors, this is what Donald Trump sounds like,” Aly said, referencing the damning recording from 2005.

The Canadian-born McInnes described what was happening as a “war on masculinity,” saying, “This is how men talk, ladies.” He then went on to personally attack Aly, and made comments about his wife, Susan Carland.

Sitting down with the New York City-based writer and commentator at an Irish bar in Manhattan, he wasn’t backing down from his scathing words.

“I would think Australians would understand ‘guy talk’ better than most,” McInnes told news.com.au. “Definitely better than Brits. But maybe that country lost its balls long ago.” He also refers to Australia as “the last vestige of masculinity”.

The father-of-three says the US election polls are off and predicts we’re all going to see Trump “winning in a f***ing landslide”. He also vowed that “when” Trump wins, he and his family will move back to Canada along with many liberals vowing to pack their bags.

“Because America will be perfect and my work will no longer be needed here,” the 46-year-old said.

“The polls have shown that the comment on the bus didn’t affect him, but I’m saying the polls are unreliable because we have a sleeping giant called ‘dads’. Dads haven’t voted in a long time. I’m saying they will vote [this time].”

The polarising writer went on to explain in detail why he believes dads could be the secret weapon that Trump needs to defeat Hillary Clinton and land himself in the White House.

“Here in America, money is something everyone can have and because Trump poured cement with blue collars when he was a young man, he knows the vernacular, he speaks that language. In fact, he was probably much more comfortable with them than he is with the aristocrats, who are his financial peers,” McInnes explained.

McInnes said dads have been absent from the political debate since Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky.

“I think that’s when your average hardworking, middle class, lower-middle class, midwestern dad just sort of went, ‘Meh, I’m not dealing with this anymore’,” McInnes said.

“So it’s been like a quarter century where dads have said, ‘Urgh, it makes me sick’, and then Trump comes along. Now all of a sudden, a major contingent of the population is interested again, and that drives the left nuts because they’ve been driving the boat for so long ... and then Trump comes along, representing dads, he represents working class dads.

“The whole country has been reinvigorated again, that’s because Trump got dads off the couch and interested again.

“For most Democrats, politics is sports to them, because they have no stakes because they don’t pay tax. That’s why dads are different — dads pay tax. Dads care.”

OK, but what about the female voters? We put this to him.

“Women like that Hillary [Clinton] is a woman but they have no real enthusiasm for her,” he said. “Now, they might vote out of spite but they don’t like Hillary because she allows for infidelity and that rubs women the wrong way.”

McInnes recalled interviewing an array of women on the street in Times Square recently. “Not one woman had any reason to vote for Hillary, besides that she is a woman. They all wanted to vote for her ... but didn’t know why.”

He added, “For women, this is just sports. So when you say something bad about their team, they say something bad about your team and it’s not just a game and that’s what they need to realise.”

During his brutal smackdown of Aly earlier this week, McInnes defended Trump’s “hypothetical” remarks on the bus with TV host Billy Bush, arguing “women hurl themselves at rich and successful men.”

He doubled down on these comments when news.com.au asked how Trump supporters could possibly continue to back the GOP candidate after the vulgar video surfaced.

“What was wrong about what he said?“ McInnes argued, demanding a response. “What did he say that he said was factually incorrect? What was morally wrong?

“Here’s what he was saying — and I have known a lot of famous people — and this is the truth. They hurl themselves at these people, and he was marvelling at this strange phenomenon and he was saying, ‘You go up to them and you can just kiss them and they would let you. You could even hypothetically grab their p***y’. And the tone of his comment was, ‘It’s crazy’ — that’s how men talk.”

He continued to defend the “locker room talk”, simply stating that it’s how men talk to one another.

“Obviously, if you grab a woman’s vagina and she’s not into it, you’re in trouble no matter what the circumstances. But in that bar room, barber, back room conversation, he was marvelling and bonding with someone ... and saying, ‘Isn’t it nuts when you’re rich and famous, what you can get away with?’

“It’s how men talk and it’s how famous men talk ... It was not an insidious plot to sexually assault women, women were hurling themselves at him. He was kissing them and saying one could [grab their vaginas].

“I think Waleed Aly knew it. I think he just saw this as an opportunity to go on one of those ridiculous rants and he thought, ‘I’m going to run with this’.”

Would the media, and the rest of the world, have reacted in the same way if it were Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton caught out in a similar hot mic situation?

“Well, no, because the media is totally in the tank. There’s the people, and there’s the media. We have 70 curious deaths that surround Hillary, we have unmitigated infidelities from Bill Clinton that she has personally intimidated these victims of, no one f***ing cares,” he argued.

“It’s a lot more egregious than grabbing some woman’s p***y. Trump talked about titillating them, Hillary has actually intimidated them, big difference.”

McInnes admits he doesn’t agree with all of Trump’s policies. “Of course he’s not perfect and I’ve heard plenty that I didn’t like. Trump disparaged the First Amendment which I’m very touchy about, and I didn’t like him disparaging Ted Cruz’s wife.”

But back to that landslide victory, here’s why McInnes believes Trump will become the next president of the United States. “Trump personifies this sort of freedom to get back to, not literally making America great again, but making America proud of its greatness again.

“And Australia could do with a f***ing heaping dose of that ... you’ve just got to get your balls back, really.”

At that, he polishes off his beer and asks for the cheque.

charlotte.willis@news.com.au