[8/31/15, 7:30:20 PM] steelguttey: yo

[8/31/15, 7:30:26 PM] steelguttey: im starting the matchup thread up again

[8/31/15, 7:30:28 PM] steelguttey: its booser time

[8/31/15, 7:54:23 PM] RiDEL: Already writing my thoughts.

[8/31/15, 8:17:15 PM] Ryan Knight: I play Oli and Bowser but haven't done this MU from either side in 3.6

[8/31/15, 8:17:31 PM] Ryan Knight: never even played against Oli with my Bowser

[8/31/15, 8:19:46 PM] solideem: The MU Olimar was made for

[8/31/15, 8:22:57 PM] Ryan Knight: I played Odds in a set in 3.6b but that's not enough for me to get any reliable info from

[8/31/15, 8:23:25 PM] solideem: not reliable

[8/31/15, 8:23:32 PM] solideem: but you definitely have authority to speak your mind

[8/31/15, 8:23:48 PM] solideem: on how you feel since you played, one of the premier mains with that character in a set

[8/31/15, 8:24:47 PM] Ryan Knight: bowser's bair invalidates oli's recovery but Oli dominates the neutral game in every way

[8/31/15, 8:24:58 PM] solideem: YUPPPPPPPPPPPP

[8/31/15, 8:25:04 PM] Ryan Knight: but if Oli gets touched it seems like he dies

[8/31/15, 8:25:54 PM] Ryan Knight: it was actually the quickest set I ever played

[8/31/15, 8:26:08 PM] solideem: Olimar's a glass cannon.

[8/31/15, 8:26:13 PM] Ryan Knight: every stock from each of us was pretty much a 0-death

[8/31/15, 8:26:15 PM] solideem: you're entirely right.

[8/31/15, 8:27:15 PM] solideem: at least, from my experience ein the MU

[8/31/15, 8:27:40 PM] Ryan Knight: but Odds is just so good that he can get around it being a bad mu

[8/31/15, 8:27:53 PM] Ryan Knight: against me anyways

[8/31/15, 8:27:59 PM] solideem: you're either on the ground, r you're on your way out of a stock

[8/31/15, 8:28:03 PM] solideem: Even with your skill level

[8/31/15, 8:28:09 PM] solideem: I'm sure it was interesting for him

[8/31/15, 8:28:14 PM] solideem: trying to figure out what to do in the MU

[8/31/15, 8:29:19 PM] Ryan Knight: FD seems like the stage to go imo for Oli

[8/31/15, 8:29:53 PM] Ryan Knight: no platforms to give Bowser his movement and it makes it way harder for him to bait out attacks

[8/31/15, 8:30:10 PM] solideem: this is one of our "Keep away MU's"

[8/31/15, 8:30:17 PM] solideem: we really don't have to fight bowser

[8/31/15, 8:31:43 PM] Ryan Knight: the thing I found is because Bowser has really good movement options on stages with platforms it's easy for him to corner Oli

[8/31/15, 8:31:54 PM] solideem: only on stages with platforms

[8/31/15, 8:32:06 PM] solideem: I like to play king of the hill vs bowser

[8/31/15, 8:32:12 PM] solideem: find a stage like battlefield, sv

[8/31/15, 8:32:18 PM] solideem: ghz

[8/31/15, 8:32:24 PM] solideem: and play my ass of to keep center stage

[8/31/15, 8:32:43 PM] Ryan Knight: I would personally never take a Bowser to battlefield

[8/31/15, 8:32:49 PM] Ryan Knight: a good one anyways

[8/31/15, 8:33:01 PM] solideem: you may not get that option

[8/31/15, 8:33:06 PM] solideem: not taking him anywhere with platforms

[8/31/15, 8:33:09 PM] solideem: except maybe ps2

[8/31/15, 8:33:27 PM] solideem: because they're far enough outside of center stage where options still present themselves without ge3tting you cornered

[8/31/15, 8:34:48 PM] Ryan Knight: I think if a tourney is using the bottom middle 5 as starters, they all favour Oli except battlefield

[8/31/15, 8:36:46 PM] Ryan Knight: maybe it's just from my experiences, but Odds just makes Bowser look like sonic with his movement on that stage

[8/31/15, 8:39:36 PM] solideem: Yoshi's (Melee,) BF, Wario Ware alllll must go.

[8/31/15, 8:40:01 PM] solideem: just the nature of the matchup.He's designed to try to get in on an opening from the opponent

[8/31/15, 8:40:27 PM] solideem: Olimar zones bowser so well

[8/31/15, 8:41:48 PM] solideem: Aerial Bowser is sub par, because his aerial mobility is slow and most of his moves we can cover off reaction (except a side )

[8/31/15, 8:43:20 PM] Ryan Knight: once you're underneath bowser, the only thing he can do is go for a platform

[8/31/15, 8:43:48 PM] Ryan Knight: or bowser bomb to the ledge

[8/31/15, 8:43:56 PM] solideem: Once you're underneath bowser you make him ****ing regret his dumbass decision of commiting to an option that placed him over one of the best jugglers in the entire game

[8/31/15, 8:44:14 PM] solideem: or so I've heard

[8/31/15, 10:28:10 PM] steelguttey: is it weird to say that i like that we have a bad recovery cus it enhances the high risk high reward jazz we have goin on

[8/31/15, 10:28:21 PM] steelguttey: but yea you guys basically got the mu covered on all places

[8/31/15, 10:28:43 PM] steelguttey: theres a bug with booser where you throw a pikmin at one of his spikes

[8/31/15, 10:29:01 PM] steelguttey: and the pikmin starts hitting bowser, but bowser cant get the pikmin off and the pikmin cant do damage to bowser

[8/31/15, 10:29:03 PM] steelguttey: so literally nothing happens