Yeah, for me I think so because with that change you notice that the kids, they want to do something, and they’re not allowed to drink, and they might be allowed to get in and get like soda, but then they start using drugs because they want to kind of experience something. When I was young, some people used some things, but most people have a beer or smoke some weed or something, but now everybody's using ecstasy, all the young kids are on it. I’m like ‘Woah!’ That’s a big change to how a party is as well. I think it really has to do with people will always try to experiment somehow and if you ban it, it will only make it more interesting and then if they can't drink, they'll take a pill, and then go in and drink water and nobody notices. I think if you start with you can have a beer when you're young, and then slowly build up that pace, people realize they don’t start with the hard drugs but they slowly build and find for themselves ‘this is enough for me.’

I agree, I was able to drink a beer around my parents as a teenager and I think it definitely saved me. Like I didn't go crazy once I had access to club culture. I was kind of a slow bloomer and paced myself.

I’m the same. Like I never used any drugs. I just drink beer basically, and that’s it. I don’t really need or have the feeling that I want to experiment, you know? I see all these kids doing these things, and I can relate that they want to experience something, but maybe because I was raised differently that’s why I didn’t really want to do it. I don’t know. I mean in Holland weed was kind of legalized, and I don’t know, the drinking was younger. I wouldn't say it's innocent, but if there’s a ban on everything they might just start and go full crack instead of having a Bud Light.

My last question is if someone were going to visit Holland, what should they absolutely see that’s not in the brochure?.

Um, Dutch culture. Well, I’m from a city called Utrecht, it’s right in the middle, and everybody always goes to Amsterdam. Our city is kind of the same. The canals, it’s really old, and a university city so there’s a lot of young people, but there’s not a lot of tourists, and I think actually National Geographic put it in the top five of best unknown cities within Europe. So Utrecht is a good tip. And our islands are really beautiful because they have really white sand beaches. Our weather is not always great, but even though it rains and it’s stormy, it's still beautiful. The top islands are great, and that city. That’s probably my two favorite spots.

What's like a Dutch food secret?

Ehh, it’s pretty basic. Mashes potatoes and, well, it's a rainy country, and it’s all cabbages and potatoes. All farmer food, so it’s mashed potatoes and vegetables and meat, and gravy. Also, stews and stuff, but that’s our typical Dutch food. You know because we’re a trading nation from way back, we got in touch with all kinds of food. You can get all types of foods everywhere. The typical Dutch cuisine is pretty basic, but a stroopwafel maybe, it’s like a cookie, but with caramel.

Is there anything coming up that people should look for from you?