Wu-Tang Clan’s RZA and Interpol’s Paul Banks have a new collaborative project called Banks & Steelz. Last month, they released their debut album, Anything But Words. Earlier today, Pitchfork Radio aired a conversation between the two recorded last week for a Talkhouse Music Podcast. And it was... something. During the course of a half-hour-long chat, RZA did the following:

Praised a Donald Trump speech and said he “respects” Trump's personality. (“To me, I don't hear the ego. I'm like, 'That's New York, man.' You could go to any pizzeria and talk to a guy like that, and you're going to get the same thing!“)

Said he liked watching Fox News (“they keep it gully!”)

Appeared to defend Rodrigo Duterte, the President of the Philippines, for ordering suspects of drug crimes killed before trial (though he was not happy about Duterte calling President Obama a “son of a whore,” threatening, “Don’t you ever get the gall in your mouth and heart to call the President of The United States the son of a whore. Don’t never do that, kid. Come to my neighborhood, come to Staten Island with that.”)

Discussed how much he likes Jessica Alba

Revealed that he's writing a new movie featuring a “racist redneck” character.

And much more.

Paul Banks, for his part, talked about how the Killer Croc character in the Suicide Squad movie was “super racist,” how the movie 30 Minutes or Less was “super offensive” for turning a real-life tragedy into a comedy, and expressed bewilderment as to why Bill Clinton was watching Chance the Rapper's set at Made in America. Oh and he, too, is a fan of Jessica Alba.

Listen to the whole talk here:

Read “Paul Banks and RZA On Their Banks & Steelz Album, Wu-Tang, and Chess” on the Pitch.

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