But when Theo approached me about the score, I was like, "This is perfect." The film started as a short and it just kept expanding, and shifting in different ways. He was like, "It's about rats, but it's not really about rats at all." I was like, "I'm sold! A movie about rats but it's not really about rats at all? I'm in!" [laughs] But just everything he was saying and how it was unfolding, seeing the sketches of what the idea would be, just really intrigued me. I could tell it was going to be a large, consuming project but it felt like the film was going to have an energy behind it. I sort of dove in head first and am really glad I did because it really did open up a lot of passages in my mind that had been covered in cobwebs and got me thinking about music differently, and encouraged me to set up a studio in my home.