cucker tarlson tbh 3600+better cooler performs dead equal with 3600x on stock cooling while the acoustics are better.

I would assume the 3600 would need to be overclocked. Not that it matters to me, as I have no plans to overclock.For my needs (1080p@60FPS gaming and a lot of x264 encoding) the 3600 seems like the best choice currently, but if the 3500 is real, and depending on its price/performance ratio, it may become my future CPU.The 3700X doesn't offer enough performance boost for me to justify its price increase, but a non-X 3700 just might be good enough for me to aim for it instead. Alas, no such CPU for the time being, and possible not for the future either.