Sam Vinograd, a former top adviser in the Obama administration, says President Trump’s policy of separating children from adults when they illegally cross the U.S.-Mexico border is much worse than Barack Obama’s policy of separating children from adults when they illegally cross the U.S.-Mexico border.

Yes, really.

Vinograd held various positions for the Obama administration, working on the National Security Council as the Director for Iraq, as the Director for International Economics, and as the senior adviser to the National Security Adviser. Now, she’s a National Security Analyst at CNN. Shortly after Trump told reporters on Tuesday that he does not plan to bring back the policy of separating children from adults at the border, Vinograd appeared on “The Situation Room” with Wolf Blitzer.

“When President Obama separated children from their families, Wolf, or from adults, Wolf, it was for their protection,” she told Wolf. “It was if there was a risk of trafficking or other kind of harm that might have been incurred,” Vinograd said.

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Then she went into a whole new land of equivocation. “But even if he did do that, why is Donald Trump saying that two wrongs make a right? Again, Obama wasn’t wrong, but so he’s saying that because something happened under President Obama, he’s repeating it and upping the ante. That’s an incredibly poor excuse. He’s systemized that inhumane treatment that, again, Obama was doing to protect the children.”

Let’s unpack that. “Obama wasn’t wrong,” Vinograd said, but Trump is saying “two wrongs make a right”? Boy, a Masters from Georgetown University doesn’t mean much anymore these days, does it?

Disinformation was in full flow on Blitzer’s show, with the host saying “the policy no longer exists right now, but that was a new strategy, a new policy that they had implemented to deter illegal immigration.”

Another panelist, Laura Jarrett, said: “Right, but let’s be clear on the facts here, is that the Obama administration did not have a wholesale policy of zero tolerance at the border, which is what led to the family separations in the first place. So Obama’s attorney general, unlike Jeff Sessions, did not have a policy of prosecuting 100% of families.”

“As a result, did not systemically break apart family units,” she continued. “Now, the Trump administration has said, we’re not going to break apart family units, which means we have choices. We can keep the families together, or we can do what is derisively called ‘catch and release,’ and allow them into the United States throughout the pendency of their immigration proceedings.”

Trump on Tuesday said, “I’m the one that stopped it. President Obama had child separation.”

“President Obama separated the children. Those cages that were shown, I think they were very inappropriate. They were built by President Obama’s administration, not by Trump. Take a look: The press knows it, you know it, we all know it.” (By the way, here’s the truth about that photos, which we taken in 2014 — during Obama’s time in office.)

“But I’ll tell you something, once you don’t have it that’s why you have many more people coming. They are coming like it’s a picnic, like, ‘Let’s go to Disneyland.’ President Obama separated children. They had child separation. I was the one that changed it,” Trump said.