If you think all differences between the way males and females act are socially conditioned, how come male spatial superiority is evident in infants as young as 5 months?

ravefromthegrave:

fantastic-nonsense: ravefromthegrave: If you knew shit all about spatial superiority, you’d also know that that’s only true in patriarchal societies and that it’s been tested in matriarchies, where the result is 100% equal. At least don’t waste my time with stuff you don’t know anything about, greyface. …except there has never been a matriarchy? There has literally never been a society in all of history that has been a matriarchy? And even if there had been, they would have existed/did exist before things like spatial testing and neuroscientific testing existed. You’re going to tell me they’ve “tested” spacial superiority in matriarchal societies when no such societies exist? Yeah, don’t waste my time with stuff you don’t know anything about. Also…[CITATION NEEDED]. except ding dong you are wrong educate yourself: http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/05/where-women-rule-the-world-matriarchal-communities-from-albania-to-china-3525234/ http://utopianist.com/2011/06/5-societies-run-by-women-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/ and by the way, how did i “waste your time” when you apparently read my blog voluntarily? it’s not like i sent you a pm, get over yourself

You don’t seem to understand what “Matriarchy” means. A country simply ruled by a woman is not a matriarchy. Otherwise the UK and Germany would be matriarchies, and we all know that’s not true. A matriarchy is a social system in which females are the primary authority figures central to social organization, occupying primary roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property, and where mothers hold authority over fathers and children.

The first link seems to confuse the terms “matrilineal” with “matriarchy.” They are not the same thing. The Jewish people are matrilineal, but they are not a matriarchy. The Mosuo are matrilineal, not matriarchal. Information on the Mosuo indicate that while women are often the head of house and inheritance is through the female line, political and social power is often in the hands of male. Therefore…matrilineal, not matriarchal. The description of the Aka does not describe them as matriarchal at all; they just have a general reversal of gender roles when it comes to hunting vs. childcare. It mentions nothing about their system of government.

Iceland is far from matriarchal. It’s more egalitarian than anything. I don’t think the author of that article knows what a matriarchy is either, since he’s trying to present Iceland as one.

…also if the study you talked about is from the Albania example, it must be a shitty study considering there’s only 13 women that live there and most of them are lesbians. You need a large and diverse population for a good study. Also did you not see the part where some girls are forced into the role of living there? And the fact that they literally spend the rest of their lives after they leave as men? That’s not exactly matriarchy, dear. And again, the India example is not an example of matriarchy, but of matrilineality.

Women don’t “rule” in ANY of the societies mentioned in the first article. In most of them, the power is divided evenly between women and men, making the societies more egalitarian than anything.

The only society in both of the links you provided me that you could make a case for would be the Hopi Tribe, but seeing as how they operate under a “neither sex is inferior” code and are highly egalitarian, they do not make the list either.

The vast majority of anthropologists agree that there are no known unambiguous matriarchies. There are several societies in which women enjoy political and sexual freedom on par with men, which are called egalitarian societies, but there are no known societies (ever) in which matriarchy is a thing. The hypothesis that pre-history was littered with matriarchies was a popular thesis in the 20th century, particularly with 2nd wave feminism, but that hypothesis has been widely discredited today based on lack of proof and lots and lots of research.

Also, please link me to the studies you say have been done on matriarchal societies that show that “100% equal” number. Spatial superiority in males has been detected as early as three days old, and newer studies present the hypothesis that this is a side effect of testosterone (previous studies have shown that women who take testosterone often show improvement in their spatial navigational skills). However, this relationship is complex, and as it is a relatively new field of study, future studies may be more forthcoming about this. Science has shown that male and female brains show significant biological differences; for example, women often have better language skills, both written and aural, than men, while men often have better spatial skills.

You cannot simply say that there is “no difference” in spatial abilities because the tests are highly complex. Women often score higher on spatial MEMORY but men often score higher on spatial NAVIGATION. We are still learning about the various complexities of the mind and the differences that gender creates (or rather, the different chemical makeups of the brain because of gender differences).

So actually, no, you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Please refrain from spouting off bullshit pseudoscience. It’s not helpful.