Image : Monte Grappa

The Monte Grappa map in Battlefield 1 is a divisive experience. Based on a bloody, treacherous set of battles from the first World War, it is a hard map to take and hold objectives on. And now the Battlefield 1 community is embroiled in its own fight about the “real” Monte Grappa.




A few days ago, a Reddit user posted a picture of a mountain with the simple thread title of “Monte Grappa IRL.” As you can see below, it’s an idyllic mountain covered in green, and that’s in harsh contrast to the way that many players understand the Monte Grappa of their first-person shooter experiences.

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In the game, Monte Grappa is hard to assault, covered in trenches, and is generally just a jaw-gritting stressful experience. The difference between that experience and contemporary Monte Grappa as depicted in this photo is, to put it mildly, pretty big. This led people to wax philosophical about what it would mean to die there, with the top comment of the thread summarizing it quite nicely: “What a beautiful place, and morbid as this sounds, if there was a place I’d had to fight and die in, this is it.”

The catch, though, is that it isn’t Monte Grappa. A thread sleuth pointed out that i t’s a picture of a mountain in Stoos, Switzerland that was originally posted on r/EarthPorn by a user named ilikepot. Apparently you can ski there! It’s also not chock full of the tragedy of war, or at least not the same kind that exists at Monte Grappa.

In fact, if you look up Monte Grappa on good old Wikipedia and plug the coordinates into Google Maps, you can see that the two mountains are a good 500 kilometers from each other. That’s pretty far!

Of course, being the internet, the false mountain claims were met with the truth. Reddit user DividingOcean3 showed a picture of the real Monte Grappa in response:

Image : DividingOcean3


Or, well, wait. That might also be incorrect. In the midst of this, Dorjcal posted a real real photo of Monte Grappa, which is sort of idyllic.

Image : Dorjcal


But while that might be a picture of the mountain that is named Monte Grappa, it is not the location of the map in Battlefield 1 that is named “Monte Grappa.”

The Battle of Monte Grappa is a set of three battles, as I said before, but the map Monte Grappa is an emulation of the Battle of Vittorio Veneto, which is the last of those three battles of Monte Grappa. In a Reddit thread back in 2016, TheMightyRan made a strong case for the exact location that inspired the game map:

Image : TheMightyRan


It was user d1ea who went to Google Earth and pulled actual, true pictures of the location that inspired Monte Grappa to educate the public.



Image : d1ea


This, too, was challenged by DividingOcean3, who delivered what is “finally, the real Monte Grappa”:


This area is about a hundred kilometers north of the city of Vittorio Veneta, and it is well within the place where the final Italian offensive took place at the end of the Battle of Monte Grappa.



Even if the problem of fake images of Monte Grappa is “solved,” the community response to the confusion over what the mountain (or map area) actually looks like are comedy gold.


Is this the real Monte Grappa?

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This?

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I’m 90% sure this must be the actual Monte Grappa.

Image : DirewolfOfTheLine


Ultimately, solved or not, the best distillation of the community reaction to the Monte Grappa debacle is in the form of a meme posted by smokingpolpot: