This was your first album with Leah on drums.

Yeah. And that just felt lucky. We met her during the Howl album because Nick had quit during Take Them On… and he came back and played on two songs on Howl and he was in the process of wanting to quit during the Baby 81 tour, if not on the Howl tour, but we met her on the Howl tour playing for a band called Dead Combo and we kept in touch with her and we kept in touch and called her up when we had a sit-down with Nick and said, “Hey man, if you’re just unhappy and you want to do something else, why be miserable?” He wanted to do his own music, so Beat The Devil… with Leah and we just felt real lucky that someone we didn’t really know came in and was able to jam kind of like we did with Nick and just go for hours at a time, just from body language and the sways of the music. For that to be there was a really nice thing. It showed up much easier than we thought it would. We’d been debating not even calling ourselves BRMC anymore when he left.