CarolinaCon tells me to go blow them for letting them know they have a potential (admitted) thief speaking. Start at the bottom and read up.

I of course won't be attending now, I am sure you can understand why.

From: Vic Vandal <vvandal@well.com>

Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:54 AM

To: "Rowe, Robert" <Robert.Rowe@twcable.com>

Cc: "speakers@carolinacon.org" <speakers@carolinacon.org>, "info@carolinacon.org" <info@carolinacon.org>

Subject: Re: Considering you have Joe McCray speaking...

Blow me, asshole. Good luck on your quest to discredit someone who knows more and has done more for the InfoSec community than you ever will. You must be a racist dick.

-Vic

From: "Robert Rowe" <Robert.Rowe@twcable.com>

To: "Vic Vandal" <vvandal@well.com>

Cc: speakers@carolinacon.org, info@carolinacon.org

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:39:02 AM

Subject: Re: Considering you have Joe McCray speaking...

http://strategicsec.com/2013/02/12/the-final-statement-on-this-issue/

Here is a statement from Joe where he states that he "did it out of spite" when he also admits it was his own decision to cut the course price in half. You have made it quite apparent that CarolinaCon will and does support individuals that have admitted to plagiurism provided that they host "epic parties". Personally my own ethics and integrity cannot be purchased with "hundreds of dollars worth of libations" either, but apparently that is the status quo for the circles you run in. So while it may not be well received by you, I am sure that others in the InfoSec community do not hold such low standards for their ethics.

Robert Rowe, GSEC

EIS, Technical Security Engineer

From: Vic Vandal <vvandal@well.com>

Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:45 AM

To: "Rowe, Robert" <Robert.Rowe@twcable.com>

Cc: "speakers@carolinacon.org" <speakers@carolinacon.org>, "info@carolinacon.org" <info@carolinacon.org>

Subject: Re: Considering you have Joe McCray speaking...

Robert,

We appreciate your concern and your attempts to enlighten us, but in this case it isn't well received.

We at CarolinaCon (staff and attendees) have nothing but mad love and respect for Joe McCray. He is considered a dear friend. He is one of the smartest guys and one of the most amazing presenters in the InfoSec/hacking field - hands down. He is also one of the most generous guys I've ever met, who donates his time and travel expenses to present at CarolinaCon. Last year he hosted an epic party at CarolinaCon, providing the conference room and many hundreds of dollars worth of libations. Joe's integrity and ethics are openly apparent by his public response to the drama and publicity seeking accusations, and by the fact that you say you were refunded seminar monies by him.

We at CarolinaCon are nothing but fortunate to have a friend like Joe McCray. As for the capitalistic person(s) who run exploit laboratory and who charge a couple thousand dollars per person to attend their sessions, I can promise you that they did not invent/discover/create every exploit command, code snippet, technique, or philosophy that they use in their training sessions. An old proverb comes to mind. "He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones."

-Vic Vandal

(speaking for myself, which may also reflect the opinions of the dozen annual staff members and hundreds of attendees who enjoy Joe McCray's presentations and his presence)

From: "Robert Rowe" <Robert.Rowe@twcable.com>

To: speakers@carolinacon.org

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:59:59 AM

Subject: Considering you have Joe McCray speaking...

You may wish to reconsider that given the details that are coming to light.

http://blog.exploitlab.net/2013/02/defending-our-work.html

And the additional follow-up with more damning evidence.

http://blog.exploitlab.net/2013/02/defending-our-work-part-2-exploit-lab.html

I recently paid for one of "his" training webinars and was refunded once this information came to light. This is not that type of individual that you want speaking at your conference.

Thanks,

Robert Rowe, GSEC