On today’s episode of “Faith and Freedom,” Mat Staver and Matt Barber discussed the news that the official Democratic Party platform would include a plank supporting marriage equality. Needless to say, neither Staver nor Barber were impressed, as Staver warned that it would lead to religious persecution against Christians while Barber declared that everyone knows that there is no such thing as gay marriage, which is why gay activists “respond so violently when people snicker at it.”

Both Barber and Staver asserted that supporters of marriage equality refuse to engage in any sort of debate on this topic because, as Staver said, “they can’t dialogue on it from a logical perspective and so they want to shout you down and shut you up and push you out of business so that you can’t even practice your profession, pursue your calling, operate your business, or do you daily life”: