Mark Chapman and guests discuss life at the edge of the football league.

Mark Chapman is joined by Ali Maxwell - from the Not The Top Twenty Podcast, Mark Palios - former FA chief executive and current Tranmere owner and football finance expert and podcaster, Kieran Maguire.

They discuss life on the edge of the football league including how you should and shouldn't run a club as well as asking what the league will look like in 5 or 10 years time.