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"ATTN DC Bloggers/Media: Marc Grossman to Testify in House on Wednesday"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... lukery said on 1/22/2008 @ 8:34 pm PT...





great work brad. let's put this guy in jail, and embarrass him like hell tomorrow

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 1/22/2008 @ 8:48 pm PT...





I got one question. And I really would like to hear it from Grossman himself. Question: Have you broken your oath of office? And if you say you haven't, is it just technicalities?

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... gandhi said on 1/22/2008 @ 9:18 pm PT...





Off topic, but not necessarily so... BEHOLD! The BIG JHING!!!

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 1/22/2008 @ 9:36 pm PT...





This is incredible news, but with a little more fore warning I might have been able to make it. Oh Pickles! Oh well, I probably would have gotten totally creeped out just being in the same room with that piece of greedy human hating shit. I wonder if the waxman is going to continue to sit on his hands at this point?

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 1/22/2008 @ 11:32 pm PT...



COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... Caleb said on 1/23/2008 @ 1:05 am PT...





It seems unlikely that Israel would be involved in the sale of nuclear technology to Pakistan and Al Qaeda, when Israel would be a likely target of a nuclear weapon developed through this transfer. (Look at Israel's hawkish reaction to the possibility of an Iranian nuclear bomb. Their government is seriously considering an attack on Iranian nuclear facilities even without U.S. support). Any Israelis involved in an espionage scheme such as that reported by Edmonds would be unbelievable traitors to their country. There's just something missing from this story.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... DE said on 1/23/2008 @ 1:43 am PT...





The tapes were for translation, that's all. Any interpretation of intelligence would be a mistake. She leaked the translations of tapes and has put all the people involved in jeopardy, especially Grossman who may have been working with DIA or DOD or counter intelligence or drugs. They all have to be protected. NSA was just using standard phones here, no internet or cellphones. Plame was leaked by Ames in 95 and was just something to trade for more intelligence. The 'Brewster's Millions(the characters in the movie are supposed to be Joe and Val)' trade happened just before 9/11. There was a Russian Plame(FSB) working out of the New York FBI field office after the first 9/11. I'd start checking there.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Pat #1 said on 1/23/2008 @ 1:55 am PT...





...haha! They need protection alright! Counter intelligence or drugs? You mean shipping tons of cocaine and opium using CIA planes? Excuse me, any interpretation of (?)"intelligence"(?) would be a mistake.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... DE said on 1/23/2008 @ 2:30 am PT...





It's here: Civilians can get access. It's just like a blog!!! http://www.whitehouse.go...information_sharing.html

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Mike Mejia said on 1/23/2008 @ 3:22 am PT...





Maybe we should ask him if "effective diplomacy" includes unauthorized sharing of U.S. intelligence secrets.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Paul said on 1/23/2008 @ 3:25 am PT...





Is this guy going to be the first traitor to go down?

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Mike Mejia said on 1/23/2008 @ 3:30 am PT...





Caleb, Israel and Pakistan have common enemies. It is not implausible that some Israelis would profit from selling certain technologies. In fact, I could swear I read somewhere that Pakistan was allied with Israel and the U.S. against Iran.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Adam Fulford said on 1/23/2008 @ 3:55 am PT...





Great! DC bloggers, brave internet news guerrillas, show those spineless palace eunuchs of the Overwhelmingly Fascist Media what real investigative journalism (something they're too cowardly to engage in) is all about.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 1/23/2008 @ 5:17 am PT...





Its not like the entire rest of the world doesn't know about it at this point, like Giraldi says undoubtedly the entire operation wound down several years ago. The American public deserves to know just how guilty or incompetent our government officials are. America's reputation will never be restored without a real accounting of what happened. And might I add a couple impeachment trials! The entire world is paying the price of our corruption.

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 1/23/2008 @ 5:24 am PT...



COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 1/23/2008 @ 5:53 am PT...





And just to back up Pat#1's statement, check out this

http://www.madcowprod.com/

Read for yourself;the real conspiracy is the silence on the corruption in this country!

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/23/2008 @ 6:40 am PT...





It must be a true story, DE is here trolling. Who would trust this White What House of preznit blush for anything other than lies? Note:

A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements [935] about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks. The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses." The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. (Yahoo News). What I am saying is that Grossman is a very gross man AND HE KNOWS HOW TO LIE, since he is a primo bushie.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... Jesus Reyes said on 1/23/2008 @ 7:23 am PT...





Why is it the "US MSM" and not the "controlled corportate media"?

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Beth Allen said on 1/23/2008 @ 7:31 am PT...





Thanks for sharing this article. I have taken the liberty of emailing it to local Nashville talk radio and others. It's amazing to me that no media outlet in the US has the courage to report on this. FYI, I voted twice for Bush and because of this unbelievable revelation and other reasons regret it!

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/23/2008 @ 8:01 am PT...





Even in a rank dictatorship, Pakistan, the generals and leaders have the "democratic" courage to tell their leader "time for you to go":

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - An influential group of retired officers from Pakistan's powerful military has urged President Pervez Musharraf to immediately step down, saying his resignation would promote democracy and help combat religious militancy. "This is in the supreme national interest and it makes it incumbent on him to step down," said a statement released late Tuesday to the media by the Pakistan Ex-Servicemen's Society, after a group meeting attended by more than 100 former generals, admirals, air marshals and other retired officers and enlisted men. (Yahoo News, emphasis added). In Amurka the presstitutes do not have the democratic guts to do anything but pander as lackies to the dictatorial wannabe regime here. They should be printing these articles so the people will force congress to impeach the bastards! Pathetic!

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... nwmuse said on 1/23/2008 @ 8:07 am PT...





Brad, check this out!

http://wingsofjustice.com/08/01/woj08004.html

This story won the Buzzflash "Wings of Justice Award!

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... nwmuse said on 1/23/2008 @ 8:10 am PT...





Here is the main link for BuzzFlash:

http://www.buzzflash.com/

This story is at the lead.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/23/2008 @ 8:11 am PT...





And even conservative blogs realize the story should be covered:

Most Americans have never heard of Sibel Edmonds, and if the U.S. government has its way, they never will. The former FBI translator turned whistleblower tells a chilling story of corruption at Washington’s highest levels—sale of nuclear secrets, shielding of terrorist suspects, illegal arms transfers, narcotics trafficking, money laundering, espionage. (The American Conservative, emphasis added).

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... KestrelBrighteyes said on 1/23/2008 @ 8:56 am PT...





Hey y'all, I'm listening to the hearings. The title is “Fortress America Abroad: Effective Diplomacy and the Future of U.S. Embassies.” Honestly, is there ANY REASON to believe that anything related to the Sibel Edmonds story will even be brought up?

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... mmonk said on 1/23/2008 @ 10:07 am PT...





I see testimony at the Fortress America page but does anyone have an audio link?

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... mick said on 1/23/2008 @ 10:25 am PT...





for DE The motto of Israel's spy agency, Mossad, is, according to recently defected Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky: "By way of deception thou shalt do war."

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... mick said on 1/23/2008 @ 10:30 am PT...





Marc Grossman should be "waterboarded" ...its not torture after all.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... GWN said on 1/23/2008 @ 11:08 am PT...





Dredd # 17 Re: false statements by the WH.

I recall writing to David Brooks about how this makes him an accessory to the bush crimes after he had made this statement in 2005...

[snip]

on the Matthews Show, Brooks disclosed that "from Day One," the Bush White House "decided our public relations is not going to be honest," and that "privately they admit mistakes all the time." http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120003 He responded that he was too busy to respond to all email. blaaahh.

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 1/23/2008 @ 12:13 pm PT...





This 2 faced treasonous ruster is still walking free and still spreading lies instead of facing criminal prosecution for selling nuclear secrets to Pakistan ETC. Today Grossman just gave a ra ra for increasing state diplomats by another 1000 and their personal toys that they can use at embassies in other countries. This bastard ended his speech today by stating that 1 of the benefits would be to help fight nuclear proliferation. This human piece of crap WILL BE PROSECUTED. 2 other points: Global 1st strike IS THE ANSWER: Military men love their death machines and killing people. Since people like Marc Grossman have helped arm countries like North Korea and Pakistan, pre-emptive nukes the new plan. THESE UNIFORMED FCKS ARE THE PROBLEM. Instead of charasmatic leadership to bring world people to work together to quickly face our current world crisis, their answer is more death. Global 1st strike is not a new plan. These people need to be removed from power like the rest of these fcking destructive criminal losers in office. Props to the bush administration with the sale of 50 cargo planes to Columbian drug lords for the transport of drugs. Flying with the homeland security colors is a nice touch. NO ONE CLAIMS OWNERSHIP OF THE PLANES AND NO ONE GET CAUGHT. NICE TOUCH. Remember these words ace: The ying yang thing about criminals is they always get caught. You fckers might be the biggest however, i promise you that revolution is coming.

GBD

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... Pat #1 said on 1/23/2008 @ 12:18 pm PT...





Reminds me of this... And after a while, you can work on points for style.

Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,

A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.

You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,

So that when they turn their backs on you,

You'll get the chance to put the knife in. And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.

And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw

around.

So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,

Dragged down by the stone. - Pink Floyd - Animals ...sorry I had to throw in the Floyd philosophy.

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/23/2008 @ 1:11 pm PT...





I see that Agent 99 had already posted (#5) a link to the link I cited in my post #23.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 1/23/2008 @ 1:27 pm PT...





...but you see that The American Conservative is not the same as the Murkan Konservative

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 1/23/2008 @ 3:00 pm PT...





Comment #9: Here's to Marc Grossman and the treasonous bush administration sharing information with others with Wikipedia. i hereby submit their definition of TRAITOR for Senator Waxman. Classes of crime

Infraction · Misdemeanor · Felony

Summary · Indictable · Hybrid -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Against the person

Assault · Battery

Extortion · Harassment

Kidnapping · Identity theft

(Corporate) Manslaughter

Murder · Rape

Robbery -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Against property

Arson · Blackmail

Burglary · Deception

Embezzlement · False pretenses

Fraud · Handling

Larceny · Theft

Vandalism -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Against the public order

Drug possession -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Against the state

Tax evasion

Espionage · Treason -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Against justice

Bribery · Misprision of felony

Obstruction · Perjury

Malfeasance in office -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inchoate offenses

Accessory · Attempt

Conspiracy · Incitement

Solicitation · Common purpose -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: Crimes vary by jurisdiction.

Not all are listed here.

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petit treason). A person who commits treason is known as a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... Pat #1 said on 1/23/2008 @ 3:42 pm PT...





You go GBD! I'm sure every one of these traitors know damn well the punishment for treason. That's why they do the things they do...they have nothing left to lose, except their lives.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/23/2008 @ 6:00 pm PT...





Floridiot #32 ;) yeppers ... "Amurka love it or else" ... America ... "they've all gone to look for America" (Simon & Garfunkle) ...

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... naschkatze said on 1/24/2008 @ 11:14 am PT...

