Omarosa: [Laughing] That was pretty funny, you have to admit.

JC: But is it appropriate?

Omarosa: Just because he insults Rosie O’Donnell doesn’t mean that he dislikes all women. Let’s stop painting with a big ol’ brush. I insulted Piers Morgan for five years. That doesn’t mean I hate all Brits. You have to understand the dynamic of celebrity feuds. Honey, I made a career out of feuds. Just because I insulted Janice Dickenson, a supermodel, doesn’t mean I hate all supermodels. We are painting with a brush that is way too broad for this moment. You’re making it way too complicated. He is selling the sizzle and not the steak and you all are getting caught up on the sizzle.

Can I just remind you that I covered the George W. Bush candidacy, as well. Are we serious? He had a problem pronouncing basic words. Let’s not panic, folks. He’d became president.

JC: Yes, he became president. But he did not get on stage and insult a woman by name and then keep doing it for several days.

Omarosa: If you want to get into this arena, and Michael and the Secretary will tell you this, you gotta have thick skin. You can’t be sensitive. That means of the moderator, for the candidates, for journalists. No one is off limits.

JC: Donald Trump’s skin is so thin I could wallpaper my walls with it.

Omarosa: I disagree with that. He’s a human being. I think that people have made him a caricature they don’t think that he has feelings. He’s a human being. If he’s upset about something he expresses it. And that’s why people are connecting with him and his candidacy.

Michael Steele [former chair of the Republican National Committee]: I just love all this because she’s making the underlying, fundamental point. Everybody’s sitting there trying to figure out why Donald Trump is having this kind of effect or why he hasn’t fallen off the cliff yet. And it’s because that authenticity, that realness and that’s connecting with people. Look, over time, and the secretary [Kathleen Sebelius] said in my ‘But he’s running for president,” And she’s absolutely right. Over time, as we get into the fall of this campaign, that’s going to settle in with the electorate. That’s going to settle in when they start making the conscious choices, Republicans, of who they want in, when they start getting serious, “Is this person the one I want in the Oval Office to deal with Putin? To deal with ISIS? To deal with all these big issues? Then you’ll begin to see that settle off. But right now, he’s connecting in an authentic and real way ….

Omarosa: Can we stop trying to write the Donald Trump obituary? He’s not going anywhere. He has staying power.

JC: And so that point, what Michael Steele just said, when people start focusing and asking do you want him in the Oval Office, given what you said here today, would you vote for Donald Trump?