GLAMOUR: So if Trump and Hillary are both unacceptable choices, what's your path to victory? You ran in 2012 last and won a significant number of votes, but still less than one percent of the total that were cast. What’s going to be different this time?

JS: There just happen to be 43 million young people and now not-so-young people who are trapped in student loan debt, for whom that debt is a life-altering condition. 43 million young people happens to be a winning plurality of the presidential vote. Our numbers are coming up in the polls, we're at five percent today [ed note: Stein is now polling at about 4 percent]. And it's not as though media has been covering us, and it's not as though we have a big budget to advertise. So word is sort of spreading by itself, largely among young people. And if word gets out that young people can actually come out to the polls and, in fact, take over this election in order to liberate themselves from life-long debts, we could actually win. We could also work our way up in the polls. Remember, Bernie Sanders started off at about three percent himself and skyrocketed as word got out about him.

There is no question that many people are intimidated and scared. However, the majority of voters are clamoring for something else. So if word gets out that there actually is a candidate out there of integrity, who is not poisoned by corporate money, you could see a lot of people come together from across the political spectrum. If we work our way up to 15 percent, we're in the debates and hold onto your hats, you could see that voter revolt happen like you have never seen before.

GLAMOUR: Let me ask you this. Do you think that having the first female president, do you think that makes a difference?

JS: I think it depends on what agenda that female president brings. It’s not good if that female president brings an agenda which is actually hostile to the cause of living wages. Women need equal wages to men, but not equal wages at poverty. I think we need equal wages which are living wages. I think actually under scrutiny, Hillary's promotion of equal wages at poverty level and of healthcare for children but not for their families, of childcare when there are no jobs, it just doesn't cut it. I think women need a real agenda of justice because women are care-givers, because women are instruments of justice for our families and for our communities.

Fortunately, in this race, women do not have to embrace principles of imperialism, corporatism and militarism in order to be a feminist. There is another feminist choice, which is consistent with the broader principles of feminism. Right now, it takes a lot of courage to support a campaign at five percent, but that's well above where Bernie Sanders was when he started. A lot of the Sanders folks are looking for a new home.

GLAMOUR: I know you've reached down to the Sanders campaign, have you heard anything back from them?

JS: You know, it's interesting, I’ve heard from lots of organizers in the Sanders campaign, both paid and unpaid. I have heard from lots of them. We have not heard from the Sanders campaign. I do not expect to hear from the Sanders campaign. But you know, it's not over until it's over. So we remain open to that possibility. As Bernie said himself, it's not about a man, it's a movement.