And we're back! Now that climbing season is drawing to a close... We decided to release the next episode. You can stop asking now!

We start the show with some stories about Indian Creek, including snakes, Pamela Pack, and Aid-Climbing Supercrack!!

We try to come to a consensus about trad gear, and which gear the budding young trad climber should buy.. We fail.

Steve talks guiding, and almost convinces Matt of it's value.

Climbing myths, soundboard, and long drawn out tangents throughout - you know the drill.

***If anyone from Black Diamond is listening, we want sponsorships!!!! Or a job... Can I have a job??***

If you have questions for us about climbing, #vanlife, gear.... or what it's like to be pro climbers (we are not pro climbers), whatever, send us a message or email at info@badbetapodcast.com

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