In an interview on Sunday with Mark Walters of Armed American Radio, the Second Amendment Foundation’s Alan Gottlieb claimed that the deadly attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs was “the Holy Grail of Obama’s political agenda.”

Walters, saying it didn’t matter where the shooting took place, told Gottlieb, “Make no mistake, they love that it was at a Planned Parenthood clinic.”

“This is the Holy Grail of Obama’s political agenda,” Gottlieb responded, “his love for Planned Parenthood and his hatred of guns.”

Walters continued that he “could almost hear the whoops and hoops and hollers” from the Obama administration after the shooting because “these people don’t care about the victims, they care about politicizing it.”

Anti-choice activist Troy Newman made a similar claim after the shooting, saying that it was “exactly what” Planned Parenthood had “been hoping for.”