Page 1 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 > 02-21-2015, 12:26 PM motownewave 1,140 posts, read 1,069,939 times Reputation: 313 Advertisements Ok, now that I have you reading this, why does the Philly accent have that Australian sound? Radio ads for Horizon Services can give you an idea what I mean.

02-21-2015, 01:17 PM gwillyfromphilly Location: Vineland, NJ 8,540 posts, read 11,108,725 times Reputation: 5500 The Philly accent doesn't sound anything like an Australian accent. 02-21-2015, 01:52 PM Snwmn5 Location: Philadelphia 221 posts, read 331,277 times Reputation: 143 Overall, not at all, but I have heard people make that comparison with the "o" sounds when we say certain words like phone or home 02-21-2015, 02:43 PM BPP1999 Location: Montco PA 2,076 posts, read 4,376,672 times Reputation: 1505 Quote: motownewave Originally Posted by Ok, now that I have you reading this, why does the Philly accent have that Australian sound? Radio ads for Horizon Services can give you an idea what I mean. I know the commercials well. "I'm Mark Ayyyken of Hoooriiiiizen." That's not an Australian accent, though. To me, is some variation of a very deep Philadelphia/South Jersey drawl. Those commercials drive me insane, although Mark Aiken is a motivational speaker I believe. 02-21-2015, 11:16 PM Avalon08 Location: SW Florida 4,784 posts, read 6,524,074 times Reputation: 8173 Oh, that dude has a horrible Philly accent! I knew right away he was the real owner and not a radio spokesperson. My Mom (native of Fairmount) said when she lived in Michigan while my Dad was in the service, people thought she was from England. Must be that "O" sound. Which in the word "home" sounds like "heeome". I think I might be losing my Philly accent now that I'm living amongst so many Michigan/Wisconsin people. Although now I'm starting to sound like Frances McDormand in "Fargo". 02-22-2015, 12:01 AM Pocopsonite Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania 1,013 posts, read 961,907 times Reputation: 2377 Well, I've tried and tried to find Crocodile Dundee saying, "Wooder," but I can't. So at least for that word (clear liquid, falls from sky as rain) I don't think Aussie = Philly. 02-22-2015, 12:45 AM motownewave 1,140 posts, read 1,069,939 times Reputation: 313 As strange as it sounds, there are parts of New Orleans where Billy Crystal could pass for a native (and yes he has a very traditional NYC accent), but it wouldn't hurt for him to pick up a SLIGHT touch of Southern drawl to fit in better. My point being that of all the accents in the Anglosphere, it's not at all impossible for two accents thousands of miles apart to be very similar to the other, but yet different enough to tell them apart. I really think a non-native English speaker could very easily mistake a Philadelphian for an Aussie, or the other way around. Same for a hearing-impaired person. 02-22-2015, 02:17 AM drive carephilly 2,401 posts, read 3,114,891 times Reputation: 1982



There are a lot of phonemes in the Philly accent that sound Australian to non-australians. When I was in north London (about 8 years ago) these guys at a pub were chatting up a lady friend of mine (with a thick South Jersey accent from Camden Co.) and 2 of them asked her if she was Australian. After hearing her say "no" twice the 3rd guys guess was Irish.



People pick up the strongest phonetic differences right away and will quickly associate it with another accent that they're familiar with that has similar phonemes. It's why you get actors playing a Philly native always wind up sounding like New Yorkers. It's easy to identify similarities and play up on those, especially if the accent is different from your own, but much harder to pin down the differences and idiosyncrasies.



When I've played youtube stuff of the Horizon Services guy (who is from Wilmington, btw) or of other Philly area accents for my Australian friends they all say it's confusing because it sounds like it should be American but also sounds kind of English. One person even mentioned the Wurzels.



Yeah, it's definitely the "o" in a sentence like "E.T. phone home" but it's also the shift of words like fight->foight, house->hailse, on->awn that really throws non-americans . . . heck, upon hearing a real Philly accent most Americans have no clue where it's from.



Definitely listen to the woman at 2:40



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcMJWZBzYjU





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHtfZCMYCP0 I lived in Oz for two years and non-australians who heard my daughter talk over there would say "oh, she's picking up a bit of the Aussie accent, eh?" To which I would usually say, "nope. that's philly all the way."There are a lot of phonemes in the Philly accent that sound Australian to non-australians. When I was in north London (about 8 years ago) these guys at a pub were chatting up a lady friend of mine (with a thick South Jersey accent from Camden Co.) and 2 of them asked her if she was Australian. After hearing her say "no" twice the 3rd guys guess was Irish.People pick up the strongest phonetic differences right away and will quickly associate it with another accent that they're familiar with that has similar phonemes. It's why you get actors playing a Philly native always wind up sounding like New Yorkers. It's easy to identify similarities and play up on those, especially if the accent is different from your own, but much harder to pin down the differences and idiosyncrasies.When I've played youtube stuff of the Horizon Services guy (who is from Wilmington, btw) or of other Philly area accents for my Australian friends they all say it's confusing because it sounds like it should be American but also sounds kind of English. One person even mentioned the Wurzels.Yeah, it's definitely the "o" in a sentence like "E.T. phone home" but it's also the shift of words like fight->foight, house->hailse, on->awn that really throws non-americans . . . heck, upon hearing a real Philly accent most Americans have no clue where it's from.Definitely listen to the woman at 2:40 02-22-2015, 02:36 AM drive carephilly 2,401 posts, read 3,114,891 times Reputation: 1982 Quote: motownewave Originally Posted by As strange as it sounds, there are parts of New Orleans where Billy Crystal could pass for a native (and yes he has a very traditional NYC accent), but it wouldn't hurt for him to pick up a SLIGHT touch of Southern drawl to fit in better.



Listen to the two girls in the last minute of this - the girl with the cigarette sounds a lot like my aunt - but also the woman at 5:10 who says "bad impression". A lot of southerners hear those words like "bad" with a tense a and "tawk" and immediately associate it with a New York accent - which gave rise to the term "Brooklynese" in New Orleans.

http://youtu.be/tpFDNTo4DNg?t=4m37s







Quote: My point being that of all the accents in the Anglosphere, it's not at all impossible for two accents thousands of miles apart to be very similar to the other, but yet different enough to tell them apart. I really think a non-native English speaker could very easily mistake a Philadelphian for an Aussie, or the other way around. Same for a hearing-impaired person. Yup - In New Orleans it's called "Yat". I worked with this guy from Metairie for a few years and at first I thought he was messing with me when he told me he wasn't from NJ because his accent sounded almost exactly like mine - I noticed subtle differences later. He didn't merge his i and e (pen->pin) like so many southerners do, he used both lax and tense a's almost exactly the same way I did (if you're from the Philly/NJ and say "bad" and "happy" you'll know what I'm talking about), and he would occasionally drop his r's in certain places when speaking quickly.Listen to the two girls in the last minute of this - the girl with the cigarette sounds a lot like my aunt - but also the woman at 5:10 who says "bad impression". A lot of southerners hear those words like "bad" with a tense a and "tawk" and immediately associate it with a New York accent - which gave rise to the term "Brooklynese" in New Orleans.The lack of the post-vocalic "r" quickly distinguishes the Aussie accent from a Philly accent. So if you're from central Florida you might talk about going to Melburn but if you're going to the state capital in Australia it becomes Melb'n. There are also vowel shifts in Australian english like i->e so that words like "pig" sound more like "peeg" in an Aussie accent. 02-22-2015, 05:42 AM Blinx Location: NW Philly Burbs 2,431 posts, read 4,919,340 times Reputation: 3360 Quote: BPP1999 Originally Posted by I know the commercials well. "I'm Mark Ayyyken of Hoooriiiiizen." That's not an Australian accent, though. To me, is some variation of a very deep Philadelphia/South Jersey drawl. Those commercials drive me insane, although Mark Aiken is a motivational speaker I believe. Quote: Avalon08 Originally Posted by Oh, that dude has a horrible Philly accent! I knew right away he was the real owner and not a radio spokesperson. My Mom (native of Fairmount) said when she lived in Michigan while my Dad was in the service, people thought she was from England. Must be that "O" sound. Which in the word "home" sounds like "heeome". I think I might be losing my Philly accent now that I'm living amongst so many Michigan/Wisconsin people. Although now I'm starting to sound like Frances McDormand in "Fargo". Ha ha!!! I think of this thread Is the South Philly Accent Dead every time I hear those commercials!! (and it's a LOT -- I think they've over-saturated the market!). Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.



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Left-handed people (%) Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%) Diabetes - Diabetics (%) Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%) Diabetes - People taking insulin (%) Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%) Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month) Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week) Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week) Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month) Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month) Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%) Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%) Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%) Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%) Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%) Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%) Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%) Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%) Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%) Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%) Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%) Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%) Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%) Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%) Medical Conditions - People with gout (%) Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%) Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%) Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%) Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%) Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%) Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%) Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%) Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%) Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%) Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%) Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%) Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%) Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%) Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%) Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%) Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%) Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%) Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%) Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%) Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%) Oral Health - People with gum disease (%) Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%) Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem Oral Health - Average number of teeth Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%) Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%) Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%) Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%) Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%) Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%) Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%) Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%) Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%) Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%) Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%) Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%) Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%) Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%) Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%) Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%) Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%) Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%) Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%) Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%) Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%) Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%) Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%) Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%) Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%) Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%) Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%) Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%) Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%) Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%) Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%) Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%) Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%) Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+) Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+) Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+) Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+) Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+) Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+) Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+) Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+) Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%) Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%) Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+) Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+) Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+) Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%) Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%) Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%) Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%) Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%) Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%) Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%) Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%) Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%) Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%) Weight - Average height (inches) Weight - Average weight (pounds) Weight - Average BMI Weight - People that are obese (%) Weight - People that ever were obese (%) Weight - People trying to lose weight (%) Settings Get link Loading data... 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