klineba

join:2010-08-30

Perrysville, OH klineba Member The first 1Gbps network to suffer from crippling congestion

SunnyD

join:2009-03-20

Madison, AL SunnyD Member Re: The first 1Gbps network More likely to suffer from cost overruns and multiple billing. It's the Frontier way!

WeatherPilot

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If it's not broke, it's not run by Frontier.

HughDaHand

join:2009-08-03

Swartz Creek, MI HughDaHand Member Re: The first 1Gbps network



I get those speeds 24/7 on my 6/1 line. Since Frontier took over my area from Verizon they have added DSL to my area and fixed the buzzing in my phone that happened everytime it was slightly wet outside. I guess your service depends on your area. I get those speeds 24/7 on my 6/1 line. Since Frontier took over my area from Verizon they have added DSL to my area and fixed the buzzing in my phone that happened everytime it was slightly wet outside. I guess your service depends on your area.

klineba

join:2010-08-30

Perrysville, OH klineba Member Re: The first 1Gbps network Lucky you. Most nights my internet is almost completely unusable do to congestion and forget about trying to talk on the phone and use the internet at the same time.

dueceswild88

join:2005-06-22

Murphysboro, IL dueceswild88 Member Politics as usual This project is coming on the heals of a local provider's fiber install. There were several areas in Southern Illinois that were vying for the grant that was awarded to the Carbondale/Frontier consortium that could have actually done something special with it, but instead Frontier will just use this money to try and sweep a local competitor that has a functioning fiber network under the rug.



tshirt

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join:2004-07-11

Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Governor Quinn said. "In order to remain competitive... ... in todays digital society, Illinois must have broadband infrastructure second to none.



Which is why they are spending a whole $1.5 million?

If you want a comprehensive fiber network, you better be willing to spend a little more.



Streetlight

join:2005-11-07

Colorado Springs, CO Streetlight Member Re: Governor Quinn said. "In order to remain competitive... said by tshirt: ... in todays digital society, Illinois must have broadband infrastructure second to none.



Which is why they are spending a whole $1.5 million?

If you want a comprehensive fiber network, you better be willing to spend a little more.

When I read this I thought it was a typo. $1.5 million really was $1.5 billion, but I guess not. How many miles of fiber and associated hardware will $1.5 million provide. Not much is my guess.

Bengie25

join:2010-04-22

Wisconsin Rapids, WI Bengie25 Member Re: Governor Quinn said. "In order to remain competitive... What Street said.



Maybe there are some other "goodies" the company will get, similar to what Google Fiber gets from Kansas?

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24

Cleveland, OH sonicmerlin to tshirt

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said by tshirt: ... in todays digital society, Illinois must have broadband infrastructure second to none.



Which is why they are spending a whole $1.5 million?

If you want a comprehensive fiber network, you better be willing to spend a little more.

And if they did you'd be complaining about "government waste".

ssavoy

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join:2007-08-16

Dallas, PA ssavoy Premium Member They should change their name What's sad is this doesn't sound that exciting when you realize Frontier is doing it.



Does Frontier even have the backbone to support this?



kwbelt1

join:2006-06-03

Harrisburg, IL kwbelt1 Member Re: They should change their name Do they have a backbone? Most likely not. But they do have access to a huge fiber ring that was just installed, so I'm betting they use that. They do already own a lot of dark fiber around here from Verizon.

jtorre69

join:2005-12-26

Hollywood, FL jtorre69 Member Way to go frontier! I think frontier should be commended for starting such a project. This is a project that its larger telco counterparts should be undertaking, but instead they are conceding to cable. I think this is a positive in many dimensions starting with the fact that they are becoming a provider of needed bandwidth. They will be helping themselves by future proofing their network. They will be creating much needed jobs. They will become a serious competitive player in Illinois. Way to go Frontier!



spewak

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1 recommendation spewak Premium Member Re: Way to go frontier! said by jtorre69: They will be creating much needed jobs. They will become a serious competitive player in Illinois. Way to go Frontier!

Thanks for the laugh jtorre! Much needed this morning

jtorre69

join:2005-12-26

Hollywood, FL jtorre69 Member Re: Way to go frontier! I think this news should be taken as the positive that it is. If google were behind this project it would be the talk of the town. This is by no means a shot at google. I appreciate what google is doing, and I think other corporations that choose and deploy this next generation product should also be commended.

On that note I think it would be key to point out that they are doing the first large scale 1Gb project in the area unprovoked by disrupters like google.

They could take the approach it's larger counterpart is using and put out vrads to milk the copper infrastructure..................

Once again, way to go frontier!



spewak

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Elk Grove, CA spewak Premium Member Re: Way to go frontier! Once again, thanks for the laugh!

If you really believe unprovoked disruptor corporation Frontier will do this large scale 1GB project to the hilt on $1.5 million dollars as well as being the company behind it, thanks for the laugh.

silbaco

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join:2009-08-03

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$1.5 million won't get them very far. They will have a hard time connecting even 1,000 urban homes/businesses/schools with that amount of money.

GLIMMER

join:2004-01-17

Fisher, IL GLIMMER Member interesting this is www.illinois.net/ibop/IBOP.htm



look at this and look at the map. Its amazing this was never posted... look at this and look at the map. Its amazing this was never posted...



linicx

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join:2002-12-03

United State linicx Premium Member Re: interesting this is Whoever titled it needs to learn what a comma is for. That is a map of Northeastern, Eastern, and Central Illinois.

JTR

join:2012-05-19

Westmont, IL JTR Member Clearwave? What happened to Clearwave's obscenely expensive Southern Illinois area backbone? Is Frontier going to utilize that?



kwbelt1

join:2006-06-03

Harrisburg, IL 92.2 10.6

kwbelt1 Member Re: Clearwave? This is the response I got from Clearwave earlier this week.

"Unfortunately at this time we are unable to provide residential fiber service to our customers due to the cost affiliated with the internet service. Currently we do not have any information to give out regarding third party services."



Clearwave has said from the begining that they'd be connecting schools, libraries, medical facilities and municipal buildings but they'd be finding a 3rd party to bring fiber to the home.

JTR

join:2012-05-19

Westmont, IL JTR Member Re: Clearwave? I'm talking about the backbone. If what I read was correct, part of the project was that it would make it easier for other ISPs to hook into the backbone - no need for each ISP to re-lay a backbone, just the last mile.



mike1965

Geek4rent

join:2002-09-23

Marion, IL mike1965 Member Re: Clearwave? but if the supply off the backbone is insanely expensive..AND IT IS...guess who pays....WE DO

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10 meg by 10 meg is $500.00 a month.....I talked to then about it for our fire headquarters,another money grab



hamburglar

join:2002-04-29

united state hamburglar Member How about... How about providing any broadband speeds to 90% of their footprint. Now that would be a starting point.

BiggA

Premium Member

join:2005-11-23

Central CT BiggA Premium Member Fairpoint and Frontier Why is FairPoint doing well and Frontier is a disaster? Didn't they both get huge spin-off from Verizon?



AnonMe

@comcastbusiness.net AnonMe Anon Re: Fairpoint and Frontier said by BiggA: Why is FairPoint doing well...

I live in FairPoint NH territory that was bought from Verizon, and this is the first time I ever hear that FairPoint is doing well! I think the biggest reason you don't hear how poorly they are doing in this area is that they lost so much of the market during the takeover from Verizon, and therefore not so many people actually give a rats ass about them.

BiggA

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join:2005-11-23

Central CT BiggA Premium Member Re: Fairpoint and Frontier From what I've seen, they've been cranking up speeds and pushing coverage out with RDSLAMs. They've even covered many of the islands from land-based RDSLAMs!



linicx

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join:2002-12-03

United State 1 recommendation linicx Premium Member The Laugh Factor Frontier bought a rural market with a maximum of 5M residents between the Ohio River and Chicago which was already divvied up between AT&T, Comcast, homespun carriers, Cox, and CenturyLink. It bought Verizon's debt, obsolete equipment, limited areas, and Verizon's big promises of support which never happened. ..



As usual Quinn's statements are self-serving. The statement from his office pales in comparison to his trips to Chicago to announce the total of one billion for state contracts to Chicago.



If Quinn & company wanted to do something meaningful, which it doesn't, then every home in IL would have access to 911, which it doesn't. But death and taxes don't count; it never did.



As to Carbondale, yes SIU, federal, city, and county offices, and probably the community college should get a substantial upgrade. Business will probably get a speed boost, too, and perhaps residents in the city proper. . Small communities around Carbondale will probably be excluded due to cost.



Don't expect miracles. In rural America 10/1 is a small miracle; 1G is equal to a seismic event.

JTR

join:2012-05-19

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JTR Member Re: The Laugh Factor I believe Mediacom now offer 100Mbps in Carbondale, so we aren't too badly off right now. JALC has 300Mbps from Clearwave and a bit more from some educational network, but they still don't really have enough capacity. I'm also curious about why Frontier was granted money to essentially duplicate Clearwave's rollout... You'd think they'd restrict the grant to residences and small businesses, which can't really get Clearwave service.



linicx

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United State linicx Premium Member Re: The Laugh Factor You'd think. But you know how Illinois politics are played. Capacity is dictated by numbers and data

GLIMMER

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Fisher, IL GLIMMER Member fiber





they already have a fiber there according to this map

JTR

join:2012-05-19

Westmont, IL ·Mediacom

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»www.broadbandillinois.or ··· ern.html That's central IL. Carbondale is in Southern IL. But we also have a regional backbone in place thanks to Clearwave's little ~$45 million dollar project (funded almost entirely via government funds... Clearwave is charging an arm and a leg to provide service, so it's useless for small businesses and residences).

kem09030

join:2004-11-29

Rushville, IL kem09030 Member The positive of this Frontier is actually willing to do fiber somewhere. It isn't a big area but hopefully this will start Frontier to actually run a bit of fiber to the COs and beyond. The CO in Rushville recently had a bit of fiber run to it. They are talking about possibly running fiber to the cabinet down the road. The speeds do suck on the download but the upload they provide is even more insulting. In this area the max speed is generally 1mbps/192k. If you complain enough they will bump it to 3.4mbps/448k. I found that even though I still get about .33mbps that with the greater upload things actually work. At least pings have come down from 3500ms and are now 500ms.



I do get the full speed after about midnight. The ping still remains high which is probably due to the old equipment in this area. Frontier likes to reuse equipment here from other areas that have been upgraded or from companies that have upgraded and moved on. From what I have been told much of the voice equipment in this area 60+ years old. Probably part of the reason they go down when it rains. If the wind blows static is rather abundant in the lines and the phones will randomly ring. It happens to everyone in this area so it's not isolated to one line.



kwbelt1

join:2006-06-03

Harrisburg, IL kwbelt1 Member Could it be.. that Frontier will use the huge fiber ring that Clearwave has installed as the backbone and the $1.5mil would be used to bring the fiber to homes?

atigerman

join:2002-01-19

Tigerton, WI atigerman Member Frontier to Help Build "Up to" 1 Gbps Network in Illinois I can't believe no one hopped on this....



The one thing i as a frontier customer have learned is they like to use the "Up to" phrase, hell most ISP's like to use it.



So they roll out a 1 Gbps network, but as we all know. No one will see that, they will be luck to get 1 Mbps with all of the congestion



mike1965

Geek4rent

join:2002-09-23

Marion, IL mike1965 Member yea yea yea Southern Illinois University is the only reason they are getting this....Carbondale has nothing else as far as business other than what is there because of the university.



I have this really great idea....lets work on wider spread REALIABLE broadband.....come one do you really need 1 GPS?.....only if you are transferring large files......no matter how fats your internet speeds are sites can only load as fast as the servers they are on and the connection they are on.

wasvznowftr

join:2010-07-13

00000 wasvznowftr Member Redeploy old BPON equipment Frontier is phasing out BPON in their FiOS areas. Maybe their plan is to send that equipment to Illinois!



Ben J

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Premium Member

join:2011-09-16

Elk Grove, CA Ben J Premium Member Re: Redeploy old BPON equipment Don't give them any ideas.

Intrepid1

join:2011-06-15 Intrepid1 Member Fix DSL first. I'm glad my local techs here told me not to expect any upgrades till hell freezes over. Frontier has to be the farthest behind company when it comes to offering speeds on their DSL lines.



Slomo

@198.98.209.x Slomo Anon Heck I'd like to see them even PROVIDE some DSL first Shoot where I am at they continue to refuse to even provide any DSL at any speed. And I've seen absolutely zero work being done to make it possible either. The tech guys are just fine at what they do, but they can't provide what the company won't make the investments to the needed infrastructure so that they can provide it.



In my area ALL of the competing "old time" phone providers provide access to DSL, and have done so for most of 10 years now. They have their DSLAM and other boxes scattered about some really rural and rugged countryside. But I can always tell when I'm driving in a Frontier service area, there's no DSL infrastructure to be seen or found anywhere.