

my char sheet says I regen 132.5/sec as shown here







and here's a screenshot after I've run in circles for a few seconds



using lvl 11 arctic armor, it's supposed to drain 21.8+109.2 mana/sec (131/sec)my char sheet says I regen 132.5/sec as shown hereand here's a screenshot after I've run in circles for a few seconds Last edited by sage2050 on Mar 20, 2013, 6:27:06 AM Posted by

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I notice you have Inner Force.



Inner Force will increase the mana consumed both stationary and moving by 30%, as well as increase the amount of damage mitigated by 30%.



So it is actually draining (21.8*1.3 = 28.3) + (109.2*1.3 = 142) = 170.3 mana/second, excuse the rounding.



Edit: Above is the intended mechanic, after further investigating it has been discovered there is a bug with the skill, where Inner Force is ONLY applying to the stationary mana drained per second value. Mark's post explains further on the second page. Last edited by GGG_Neon on Mar 21, 2013, 5:29:10 AM Posted by

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Hi,



Losing mana over time is a debuff not a buff. Please fix.



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Inner Force will increase the mana consumed both stationary and moving by 30%, as well as increase the amount of damage mitigated by 30%.



So it is actually draining (21.8*1.3 = 28.3) + (109.2*1.3 = 142) = 170.3 mana/second, excuse the rounding. I notice you have Inner Force.Inner Force will increase the mana consumed both stationary and moving by 30%, as well as increase the amount of damage mitigated by 30%.So it is actually draining (21.8*1.3 = 28.3) + (109.2*1.3 = 142) = 170.3 mana/second, excuse the rounding.



I leveled up my clarity gem to 11 and now i'm at 138.8 mana/sec and the skill is 100% sustainable again. This is still not adding up.



Not to mention that if what you told me was true, I'd have been draining at a rate of



170.3 - 132.5 = 37.8 mana/sec which was not the case, it was much slower than that.



and if you were to tell me that the inner force bonus on my mana regen isn't applied on the character sheet, then it would have been



170.3 - (132.5*1.3) = -1.95



so I would have been gaining mana instead of losing it.



I don't disbelieve what you're telling me, but I must be missing something here. I leveled up my clarity gem to 11 and now i'm at 138.8 mana/sec and the skill is 100% sustainable again. This is still not adding up.Not to mention that if what you told me was true, I'd have been draining at a rate of170.3 - 132.5 = 37.8 mana/sec which was not the case, it was much slower than that.and if you were to tell me that the inner force bonus on my mana regen isn't applied on the character sheet, then it would have been170.3 - (132.5*1.3) = -1.95so I would have been gaining mana instead of losing it.I don't disbelieve what you're telling me, but I must be missing something here. Last edited by sage2050 on Mar 20, 2013, 1:42:34 PM Posted by

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Losing mana over time is a debuff not a buff. Please fix.



Thanks,

ZaM Hi,Losing mana over time is a debuff not a buff. Please fix.Thanks,ZaM



I don't think it's broken, it's intended.



It works the same way with other skills. I don't think it's broken, it's intended.It works the same way with other skills. Posted by

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sage perhaps you got that 7% reduced mana costs on skills or even more of such nodes taken?



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NM I just noticed neither reduced mana or the passive nodes help with the costs. No help from reduced reservation either... which I think puts this skill more and more into a "niche market" especially with the high dex requirements too.



Support gems multipliers also do nothing so a free link with increased duration for the ice effect is kind of nice. Last edited by Ozgwald on Mar 20, 2013, 3:13:10 PM Posted by

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NM I just noticed neither reduced mana or the passive nodes help with the costs. No help from reduced reservation either... which I think puts this skill more and more into a "niche market" especially with the high dex requirements too. sage perhaps you got that 7% reduced mana costs on skills or even more of such nodes taken?Edit:NM I just noticed neither reduced mana or the passive nodes help with the costs. No help from reduced reservation either... which I think puts this skill more and more into a "niche market" especially with the high dex requirements too.



But it's mana degen, not mana cost. But it's mana degen, not mana cost. Posted by

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I haven't tested this spell, but wouldn't it make sense if it only drained the extra drain when you move, and not both.



That would make the draining 142 mana/s when taking inner force into account.



Compared to your mana regen (the bonus from inner force on clarity is shown in the character stats) which is 132, it would drain 10 mana per second while moving.



Edit: Better explanation.



You have a certain manadrain while standing still, and when moving you only have the manadrain from moving, not both at the same time.



IGN: Slasho Last edited by Mashotronic on Mar 20, 2013, 3:12:55 PM Posted by

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Here's a link to my build



http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAAnEEBwSzBVsHYwj0DH0OSBB_EZYUTRZvF1QZhRo4GmwfAiKBJKopTy0fMYg2xTbpOtg74TwFPV9G103YUlNVxlcrXcZgbWe9bRlzU3kDfll_xoFvgh6Cm4M4i3qLjIx2jjyPRo-mkFWXlZuhnYCdo52unjyeoZ_fogCio6cIpyunhK-buJPAVMHzxp7PZdDQ2CTa3dsL3fPhc-L342rjhOQi7DjtIO5v73zwHw== Posted by

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