log of slack.bitcoincore.org (edited to remove personal info so to not break Reddit ) :

Michael Toomim [9:57 PM] Guys, just a minute. gotta pack a bowl with my host here.

anduck [9:57 PM] oh come on mtoomim people have repeated lots of things over and over. now it's your time to read the log

Adam Back [9:57 PM] @mtoomim: ok i looked it up for you: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-October/011457.html

James Hillard [9:57 PM] @mtoomim: You are wanting to dictate what we do rather than give anyone other than yourself influence, that's not going to get us anywhere.

Colin Delargy [9:57 PM] utterly unbelievable

anduck [9:57 PM] mtoomim: now quit talking and do some reading, read the concerns expressed in the this chat room and answer them if you want.

[9:57] it's nonsense to keep on talking without listening ​at all​

elliotolds [9:58 PM] gamersg: are you suggesting there are absentee miners who just leave their mining equiptment unattended for 3+ months at a time, who wouldn't hear about a HF, who would lose their block rewards?

Adam Back [9:58 PM] @mtoomim: what i skimmed people asked you the same question many times and you didnt answer.

p2phash [9:58 PM] seemed sort of like a bot to me. People do write ones for slack.

[9:58] smart bot though.

gamersg [9:58 PM] elliotolds: there are many small bitcoin bsns who depend on a full node. Just look at the full node data, there are several hundred nodes still on 0.10

taek [9:59 PM] @mtoomim: that fact that you are intentionally dividing the community and rejecting the technical solutions presented by people with much stronger qualifications than yourself. The fact that your rollout timeline for classic is ​4 weeks​. The fact that you have come out of the sky with bitcoin classic, having convinced a majority of the major players in the ecosystem without consulting the smaller players, causing a huge centralization pressure. The fact that you are trying to highjack bitcoin and in doing so proving that Bitcoin has failed to persist as a decentralized entitty.

[9:59] oy vey. I'm too worked up to have a clean discussion. I'll be back in a bit

elliotolds [9:59 PM] gamersg: perhaps they're on 0,10 because they know that they can get the functionality they want with such a node, instead of not being aware that any new releases are have come out since then?

anduck [9:59 PM] ...and how is 1.6-4mb via soft fork worse than 2mb via hard fork, mtoomim?

Adam Back [10:00 PM] taek: i think it is maybe more marshall and gavin that did the convincing

gamersg [10:00 PM] elliotolds: also wrt to not having fee pressure now. We are already 75% thru subsidy, continuing to delay fee mkt sets up a moral hazard where bsns built around low txn fees are built and thrive and expect this to remain. Just look at Bitpay 1

anduck [10:00 PM] @mtoomim: what do you oppose in the core roadmap? why do you think it's not good to work according to the roadmap that has been accepted by supermajority of bitcoin developers?(edited)

taek [10:00 PM] My criticisms are aimed at classic as a whole, as opposed to mtoomim

gamersg [10:01 PM] elliotolds: which is my point, ppl have bsns to run, families, etc.. We are a minority of ppl who frequent reddit/mailing lists to keep up

anduck [10:01 PM] also it's still unclear if miners were paid to say what they've said. this was also asked but question was ignored.

[10:01] it's certainly possible as you, @mtoomim, did ask people to do things for money already.

[10:02] in this chat.

[10:02] so it's a valid concern whether miners were paid to support classic too

Michael Toomim [10:02 PM] I'm back. @adam3us: What did you look up for me? @jameshilliard: I am not dictating. I'm giving you a voice in the democracy. I have no more control over Bitcoin Classic's protocol than you do. We have the same power. You guys need to come give your voice, or you won't have influence on Bitcoin.(edited)

James Hillard [10:02 PM] @adam3us: I'm fairly certain marshall long is the one behind all of this, I just haven't figured out what's in it for him, his complete 180 on supporting the core roadmap is very telling.

Adam Back [10:02 PM] @mtoomim: the link i sent.

Michael Toomim [10:02 PM] What is the link about? 2

Adam Back [10:02 PM] uh the question you were asking

Michael Toomim [10:03 PM] @anduck I oppose nothing in the core roadmap.

Adam Back [10:03 PM] mtoomim: click on it and see -it's not malware!

Michael Toomim [10:03 PM] I abstain.

[10:03] I haven't read it recently.

[10:03] I read it months ago.

[10:03] It didn't let me vote on it.

[10:03] So I left

[10:03] Go put it on a consider.it poll

elliotolds [10:03 PM] gamersg: it's possible that fees never have to rise above 5 cents if we get enough adoption. If we instead decide to raise fees now to $1 and never end up getting that adoption and Bitcoin fails, it would be pretty tragic. Also, Lightning will allow people used to cheap fees now to get them in the future in a way that probably works for their business. Why make people pay high fees between now and Lightning if it has no impact on security?

Michael Toomim [10:03 PM] Actually I think someone already did

[10:03] Go read what everyone thinks about it

anduck [10:03 PM] quit advertising your service, mtoomim

Michael Toomim [10:03 PM] My service is Bitcoin Classic.

[10:03] I want you to join it

anduck [10:03 PM] your service is against core roadmap

[10:04] yet you claim you're not

[10:04] how so?

Michael Toomim [10:04 PM] Come vote for the core roadmap.

[10:04] I want you to vote for the core roadmap.

anduck [10:04 PM] on your platform which you can control?

taek [10:04 PM] Honestly, I don't think Marshall Long is behind much of this. Maybe in spirit, but from what I've been able to tell, Marshall Long has about as much political power as wet spaghetti. People don't seem to respect him a whole lot, and while he's pretty good at getting his name onto things, discussions I've been in usually disregard him as relevant to the decision making process. That's all derived from a pretty limited perspective, but that's the feeling I've gotten when working with people who are working with Marshall.

Michael Toomim [10:04 PM] That will give Classic your voice too.

[10:04] We need diversity.

[10:04] We need your voice.

[10:04] Plus you are smart.

anduck [10:04 PM] you need everything but nobody needs you.

Michael Toomim [10:04 PM] You have good ideas and knowledge.

[10:04] You do great work.

James Hillard [10:04 PM] @mtoomim: Bitcoin isn't something where 51% of users should be able to just get whatever they want from the rest, I have no interest in participating in a system like that.

elliotolds [10:04 PM] gamersg: I think it's extremely unlikely that someone running a full node for a Bitcoin business of theirs would not know about a HF if given 3 months notice/warning

Michael Toomim [10:04 PM] You help bitcoin so much.

p2phash [10:04 PM] got to be a bot.

Michael Toomim [10:05 PM] You have done so much that I love.(edited)

oneeman [10:05 PM] this is surreal

Adam Back [10:05 PM] mtoomim: i think technical communities aggregate around meritocracy. you have to lead by example.

Michael Toomim [10:05 PM] Yes!

p2phash [10:05 PM] or just really good at impersonating one.

Michael Toomim [10:05 PM] Adam yes!

anduck [10:05 PM] it certainly looks like bitcoin classic wants everything made for them, under their control, on their platforms. that's not how it works

Michael Toomim [10:05 PM] No we don't have control!

James Hillard [10:05 PM] well there's this conspiracy theory lol :stuck_out_tongue: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/41ge93/bitcoin_classic_is_possibly_a_takeover_attempt_by/

reddit Bitcoin Classic is possibly a Takeover Attempt by Cryptsy and Marshall Long of FinalHash to dump Worthless Coins on Depositers • /r/Bitcoin Marshall Long CTO of FinalHash and CTO of Cryptsy who [still lists Cryptsy on the FinalHash...

Michael Toomim [10:05 PM] You have control!

anduck [10:05 PM] i don't want control.

Michael Toomim [10:05 PM] You have your hands off the reins!

dts [10:05 PM] "mtoomim: Insert your dreams into it."

anduck [10:05 PM] i want that bitcoin is made to what it is supposed to be.

dts [10:05 PM] What is in this bowl 2

Adam Back [10:05 PM] mtoomim: slow down a bit.

gamersg [10:06 PM] elliotolds: i do not think that fees can remain at 5 cents forever. We know that the blockchain does not scale and id be surprised if 10MB is ever safe in the next decade, im not too optimistic on Moore's law/storage growth rates. Yes, u have a point about delaying fee event until LN is ready

anduck [10:06 PM] if people have control, bitcoin may not be made to what it is supposed to be.

Oliver [10:06 PM] @jameshilliard I am someone who is helping with Classic in a few ways, but I don't "control" anything, for sure. That said, I take MAJOR issue with your "uneducated masses" comment -- it speaks volumes of your character and seeming unwillingness to engage the community. I hope you realize THAT is the biggest problem "the masses" have with Core right now -- it's an image and communication problem.

Why? Because some of us are certainly "educated," even when we're part of the "masses." I've been a CS for over 20 years, and yet I still disagree with you on many issues. Does the simple fact I disagree indicate to you that I'm "uneducated"? That's arrogant and makes any sort of collaboration and compromise seem impossible.

Please stop with the assumptions, ad hominems, and drawing pointless lines in the sand.

If you agree, I'm willing to give you a second chance.(edited)

Michael Toomim [10:06 PM] Satoshi believed the only way to prevent control is to give everyone a copy of the ledger.

[10:06] Give everyone an opportunity to vote.

eric-ledger [10:06 PM] @mtoomim: I think you are delusional

Michael Toomim [10:06 PM] Give everyone an opportunity to transact.

anduck [10:06 PM] mtoomim: bitcoin classic is against that, too.

[10:06] as you very well know.(edited)

Michael Toomim [10:06 PM] We give everyone an opportunity to upgrade the protocol.

Adam Back [10:06 PM] mtoomim: do you understand why the developers of bitcoin used to propose a HF but switched to a SF once it became clear that it was possible because it is safer and faster?

Michael Toomim [10:06 PM] You can take part in bitcoin.

[10:06] You can add yourself to it.

[10:06] Express yourself on consider.it.

anduck [10:06 PM] are you a bot?

Michael Toomim [10:07 PM] Are you a bot?

dts [10:07 PM] I'm convinced, I welcome our new pot smoking master

James Hillard [10:07 PM] @opet: when did I ever refer to you as being part of the uneducated masses?

Michael Toomim [10:07 PM] Do you wanna speak bot? Bleep Bleep Bloop!

[10:07] 1010111

Adam Back [10:07 PM] opet: "it's an image and communication problem." this is agreed

Michael Toomim [10:07 PM] What's your favorite wave? Mine's triangle.

eric-ledger [10:07 PM] you sound like a cultist

anduck [10:07 PM] mtoomim: quit advertising your platform

Michael Toomim [10:07 PM] Haha I'm just stoned guys.

Adam Back [10:07 PM] lol

Michael Toomim [10:07 PM] Cultists do get stoned a lot.

[10:07] But I'm just stoned.

Adam Back [10:07 PM] mtoomim: are you serious?

Michael Toomim [10:07 PM] You're mistaking correlation with causation.

dts [10:07 PM] If any miners are here, please pay attention to @mtoomim words

Michael Toomim [10:07 PM] Yes I'm serious. Do you not believe me? Test me!

anduck [10:08 PM] mtoomim: so how much did you pay the miners? 0 or more

Michael Toomim [10:08 PM] I'd love more attention. I love attention!

[10:08] What? I ​am​ the miner!

[10:08] https://toom.im Toomim Bros. Bitcoin Mining Concern Toomim Bros. provides hosting for bitcoin mining. Our mining center is powered by some of the most wallet- and climate-friendly power in the world.

eric-ledger [10:08 PM] meltdown

anduck [10:08 PM] as stated earlier, it's a valid concern that you may have paid miners. you offered money to other to do things that people have been doing for NO money earlier.

Michael Toomim [10:08 PM] I pay myself every day.

anduck [10:08 PM] @mtoomim: did the miners get paid to express support for Classic or not?

Adam Back [10:08 PM] mtoomim: are you literally stoned? you may want to unplug for a while.

Nicolas Bacca [10:09 PM] At that point I think the best course of action is to demonstrate to the miners that segwit works well with multiple wallets and that well, one team is slightly more serious than the other one.

Michael Toomim [10:09 PM] No they didn't get paid. Duh. The miners have all the money. They are the ones who pay.

dts [10:09 PM] It is legal in Washington State as far as I know

taek [10:09 PM] @mtoomim: you keep trying to flatter us. We don't work for free. We are not impressed with the direction you are taking things and we don't feel inclined to work on your vision. Ours is in the process of being shredded to pieces, why do you think we will maintain morale and motivation?

James Hillard [10:09 PM] I hardly consider a sub MW mining operation to be much of anything at this point.

taek [10:09 PM] ugh

anduck [10:09 PM] mtoomim: thanks

Michael Toomim [10:09 PM] Yeah it's legal here. 1

Colin Delargy [10:09 PM] I don’t think I could think of something more off topic. 1

Michael Toomim [10:09 PM] @taek I don't give the vision. YOU give the vision. Come give it.

[10:09] I just create a place for you to talk and listen.

dts [10:09 PM] @mtoomim: you really aren't doing yourself any favors

Michael Toomim [10:10 PM] I'm hosting the forum.

eric-ledger [10:10 PM] this is insane

p2phash [10:10 PM] funny though

dts [10:10 PM] I hope this is saved for posterity

Adam Back [10:10 PM] mtoomim: i dont think yes. i think you should go sleep it off.

Michael Toomim [10:10 PM] This is great! I love this conversation guys!

eric-ledger [10:10 PM] doe anyone know for sure he is the real Michael Toomim?

Michael Toomim [10:10 PM] You are real fun.

dts [10:10 PM] he verified his email as the same one on Classic Slack

Michael Toomim [10:10 PM] Nobody texted me.

[10:10] :stuck_out_tongue:

gamersg [10:10 PM] mtoomim: If SW via SF increases effective block size to 2MB, why are you pushing for a 2MB HF (honest qsn)

Michael Toomim [10:10 PM] Text me a random code at [PERSONAL INFO REMOVED]

Adam Back [10:11 PM] eric-ledger: oh maybe it's a look alike account.

dts [10:11 PM] why do you have an Oakland number

Michael Toomim [10:11 PM] Because the people who voted aren't pushing for it.

[10:11] I went to school at uc berkeley.

Colin Delargy [10:11 PM] content style matches https://www.reddit.com/user/toomim reddit: the front page of the internet

p2phash [10:11 PM] @gamersg: not a full 2mb of transactions really is it?

anduck [10:11 PM] gamersg: that's been asked like hundred times. he refuses to answer.

taek [10:11 PM] I do feel like I've been properly baited. @mtoomim: my vision is a cryptocurrency that is immune to political influence. That vision does not seem to be present in the current ecosystem

Michael Toomim [10:11 PM] @dts are you nearby?

dts [10:11 PM] that explains the pot

Michael Toomim [10:12 PM] haha Yeah it does.

[10:12] And acid

judahmu [10:12 PM] we liked dts better as luke-jr

dts [10:12 PM] I'm flattered

James Hillard [10:12 PM] Is this what future bitcoin development conversations are going to look like? 1

dts [10:12 PM] Yes he is the real deal, not a troll, kind of unbelievable

James Hillard [10:13 PM] This is insane

oneeman [10:13 PM] tomorrow is a holiday

taek [10:13 PM] :}

dts [10:13 PM] He did go to UC berkeley and slack sends you an email to verify it

oneeman [10:13 PM] as good a day as any to cut loose, I guess

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Adam Back [10:15 PM] are we sure mtoomim is actually michael toomim? wasnt it toomim before?

anduck [10:15 PM] it's michael toomim

[10:15] changed nick to mtoomim

Brian Hoffman [10:15 PM] What a cluster fuck

Michael Toomim [10:15 PM] @taek There are politics in every social system. Our job is to improve them. That's why we made Bitcoin Classic. The problem with politics is that they get in the way, and so make political communication more efficient, so it gets out of the way.

Adam Back [10:16 PM] anduck: well he said that, but what if that itself was a spoof?

anduck [10:16 PM] @adam3us: the email looks legit, at least

Adam Back [10:16 PM] mtoomim: what hashrate does toom.im have?

Michael Toomim [10:16 PM] We are the first forum that can visualize over 1,000 opinions on a single page.

dts [10:16 PM] less than 1%

Michael Toomim [10:16 PM] We scale.

Adam Back [10:16 PM] so email him a code see if he can answer it?

Luke-Jr [10:16 PM] what's the invite link again?

Michael Toomim [10:16 PM] @adam3us: We only have a small amount. Most of our capacity goes to customers who host with us.

Adam Back [10:16 PM] slack.bitcoincore.org

Michael Toomim [10:17 PM] We have 750 kW of power capacity.

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dts [10:17 PM] @btcdrak: should put it on the front page of bitcoincore.org :confused:

Luke-Jr [10:17 PM] thx. what is the share rules for this link?

dts [10:17 PM] it's posted already on there just hidden behind "contribute"

Luke-Jr [10:17 PM] k, so public

Michael Toomim [10:17 PM] So you can multiply 750 kW by the average efficiency to get the hashrate at our facility.

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Michael Toomim [10:18 PM] Text me it's faster.

Patrick Strateman [10:18 PM] @mtoomim: well divide by x and carry the... <1%

oneeman [10:18 PM] someone in ##bitcoin asked a day or two ago if maybe bitcoin classic was just a viral marketing ploy for consider.it ... 2

Michael Toomim [10:18 PM] Probably

anduck [10:19 PM] oneeman: well it certainly looks like so

[10:19] mtoomim has advertised it like 10 times in an hour

oneeman [10:19 PM] I thought the question was a joke, but now I'm not so sure

anduck [10:19 PM] and nobody still cares about it.

Michael Toomim [10:19 PM] And we're all a viral marketing campaign for bitcoin! 2

Patrick Strateman [10:19 PM] @oneeman: lold

Michael Toomim [10:19 PM] Ok what am I not answering now?

anduck [10:19 PM] mtoomim: read the log.

[10:19] please.

Michael Toomim [10:19 PM] Come on!

Adam Back [10:19 PM] mtoomim: nice. yes coincidentally i had looked at your hosting service for some miners i had a while back.

Michael Toomim [10:19 PM] It's so long You talk fast

[10:20] I've responded very well to everything I've been able to tackle

anduck [10:20 PM] you're already deeming others to do the btc deving work for you, don't make us read the logs you should read(edited)

Michael Toomim [10:20 PM] I want you to choose

[10:20] There are a lot of options up there

Patrick Strateman [10:20 PM] @mtoomim: Would you be OK with a world in which virtually all Bitcoin users run SPV clients and only a handful of trusted third parties operate full nodes?

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Michael Toomim [10:20 PM] You get power, you can choose what I talk about!

[10:20] Good question!

[10:21] Ok, so I need to answer this well. Give me these numbers:

The percent of SPV clients

The number of full nodes

[10:21] I'll give you my opinion.

James Hillard [10:21 PM] toomims hosting service is small peanuts in the scheme of things, I manage multiple MW scale large farms in multiple countries and even then have only about 1% of network hashpower

Michael Toomim [10:21 PM] Good job James!

[10:21] Congratulations!

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Michael Toomim [10:22 PM] Hey can someone get Greg Maxwell? I love that guy!

Patrick Strateman [10:22 PM] @mtoomim: 100 full nodes run by say blockstream, coinbase, mit, etc etc everybody else runs spv clients

Michael Toomim [10:22 PM] I want him to work with Classic!

Adam Back [10:22 PM] mtoomim: i sent you an email to auth your slack handle here

dts [10:22 PM] yeah verify

Adam Back [10:22 PM] can you paste or type the code in

dts [10:23 PM] otherwise bravo on excellent trolling

taek [10:23 PM] @phantomcircuit: I don't think conversation with mtoomim is going to go anywhere.

Michael Toomim [10:23 PM] uploaded an image: Cool! Add Comment dts [10:23 PM] it's listed as his email in the classic slack

Adam Back [10:23 PM] ok then. that's pretty confirmed.

Michael Toomim [10:23 PM] Fuck yeah it is!

Oliver [10:23 PM] @jameshilliard you inadvertently did so when you referred to those voting on consider.it and supporting Classic as the "uneducated masses."

After all, I didn't give up my anonymity and finally get involved with bitcoin dev in any way until Classic arrived on the scene.

There are many more exactly like me who have signed up to finally have our voices heard and votes counted. Some, like me, are incredibly sick of (and saddened) by the Core devs' seeming ignorance of the fact that it's NOT ok to completely ignore the wants of the community.

I'm here now, and I'm here to help. My greatest desire is to somehow help bring Core and Classic together with a compromise. I'd like to see collaboration and an understanding that the road map requires a lot more than Core's blessing.(edited)

Michael Toomim [10:23 PM] That's like, real!

[10:23] It'd be so hard for me to photoshop that in 50 seconds

[10:24] Photoshop sucks

[10:24] I can do better in omnigraffle

[10:24] and built-in OSX screenshotting

[10:24] @phantomcircuit: That scenario is fucked up, dude! Everybody runs an SPV client? Sounds like fucking fascist china man!

Luke-Jr [10:24 PM] considering how quickly my PR for Classic was shot down without discussion...

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Michael Toomim [10:25 PM] I lived in china for 6 months man, it wasn't pretty with the government

[10:25] I'm so glad the chinese are finding freedom with bitcoin

eric-ledger [10:25 PM] @mtoomim: You should come back when you are not stoned; you are not helping yourself 3

Michael Toomim [10:25 PM] They need it!

Luke-Jr [10:25 PM] lol

dts [10:25 PM] uploaded an image: Here is his email listed in classic slack Add Comment Michael Toomim [10:25 PM] @eric-ledger: I'm loving this conversation!

[10:25] I'm here to help you guys!

eric-ledger [10:25 PM] well I do also love it

James Hillard [10:25 PM] @opet: I didn't mean to imply that everyone voting on there is uneducated.

Michael Toomim [10:25 PM] I want to make it easier to dev bitcoin!

eric-ledger [10:25 PM] but it may come back and bite you in the ass

Michael Toomim [10:26 PM] Haha

[10:26] That would be fun!

[10:26] Like a snake.

Patrick Strateman [10:26 PM] @mtoomim: Do you not realize that scenario is exactly the one you're moving towards with classic?

Michael Toomim [10:26 PM] Woah! No I don't!

[10:26] Please tell me how that's happening!

[10:26] How are we going to force everyone to use SPV clients?

[10:27] That means that we have to force people not to run a full node.

[10:27] Right now it's pretty easy to run a full node.

[10:27] I run one on this laptop.

[10:27] My laptop's only getting bigger and better every year.

[10:27] And the democracy cares about this!

[10:27] They won't let full nodes stop running on their laptops.

elliotolds [10:27 PM] @opet: what do you think as this (proposed earlier by someone else here) for a compromise: in April we hard fork to 2 MB, then we do segwit later in the year, maybe October or something, but whenever Core is comfortable releasing it? (sooner is fine, even along with the April HF is OK if they want it then)

Michael Toomim [10:27 PM] They want full nodes to run on their laptops!

[10:27] They want it so bad!

Patrick Strateman [10:27 PM] @mtoomim: so four or five tabs? 4

Michael Toomim [10:27 PM] I want it so bad!

[10:27] I love bitcoin on my laptop!

[10:28] It's like a girlfriend in your lap!

[10:28] Isn't it?

eric-ledger [10:28 PM] omg

Michael Toomim [10:28 PM] Who wants to relegate her to the server room?

dinbits [10:28 PM]

I'm here to help you guys! @mtoomim: Do you plan on saying anything helpful?(edited)

Michael Toomim [10:28 PM] That's for herems.

[10:28] I support sexual equality!

[10:28] @dinbits I want to be helpful! What would you like me to help you with?

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Michael Toomim [10:28 PM] Or help other people with?

dts [10:29 PM] what he's saying is very illuminating to me 3

Michael Toomim [10:29 PM] @phantomcircuit: I once took 4 tabs and went free-diving off the coast of hawaii.

[10:29] Kapoho tide pools on the big island

[10:29] That was so great!

[10:29] I saw fish world.

[10:29] Like the clan of the little cute white fish with the red stripe that swish you left and right.

[10:29] I came up speaking in a new style. 1

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Michael Toomim [10:30 PM] Every once in a while my words would disiintegrate into strange snap crackle popping, the sounds of fish world.

[10:30] I called it a flubbergust.

[10:30] It is the moment where your spirit veers into void and disappears.

[10:30] It's when you are wrong.

[10:30] In Bitcoin, we have a problem of admitting when we're wrong.

[10:30] Because there's no data on it.

elliotolds [10:30 PM] I wonder if this is some sort of Machiavellian plot, and later Jonathan will come in here and seem like the most reasonable person in the world in comparison 3

Michael Toomim [10:30 PM] We're giving you social data.

[10:30] bitcoin.consider.it

Nathan Cook [10:30 PM] shh, this is great

Michael Toomim [10:30 PM] It tells you when you're right and wrong

[10:31] So that you can learn

[10:31] When you learn, you get better

[10:31] And you get shit done

[10:31] You can make changes to bitcoin

dts [10:31 PM] I still can't quite believe it's you even with the proof

Michael Toomim [10:31 PM] We are hardforking the blocksize limit to 2mb

[10:31] Join us.

anduck [10:31 PM] why not 6 mb?

Adam Back [10:31 PM] i think it's him

anduck [10:31 PM] it would allow more transactions

Michael Toomim [10:31 PM] @dts wanna video chat me?

Nicolas Bacca [10:31 PM] is there drug for everybody ?

dts [10:31 PM] like my mind can't make the two parts fit together

eric-ledger [10:31 PM] a selfie maybe?

Michael Toomim [10:31 PM] Guys come meet me in tawk.space. I'll be online in 5 minutes.

taek [10:31 PM] Things have gotten terribly off topic, I would like to request that people stop responding to the nonsense, and also stop encouraging it. There is more valuable conversation that is being blocked by the ridiculousness happening right now.

Michael Toomim [10:32 PM] That's https://tawk.space. Use chrome or go home.

dts [10:32 PM] let's rename this chat mtoomim's magical bus trip and make a new channel 4

kang [10:32 PM] Not before that selfie plz

Michael Toomim [10:33 PM] hahaha

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alie1 [10:33 PM] is this a joke ?

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Michael Toomim [10:34 PM] Fuck! Tawk.space is down! Karthik!!!!!!!!

[10:34] Can we make a group video chat in skype?

[10:34] Oh a hangout

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[10:35] Come join the party! "Hang out" with me! Haha!

[10:35] Guys this is the dream of 1999! We can hang out on the internet now!

[10:35] It doesn't matter where you are!

dts [10:36 PM] never been more tempted to give google my information

dinbits [10:36 PM]

@dinbits I want to be helpful! What would you like me to help you with? I would like you to help convince yourself to stop posting in this thread. It would be rather impressive if you could offer this contribution. Even more impressive if it could be done in the next 30 seconds and last longer than 8 hours.(edited) 2

Oliver [10:37 PM] @luke-jr: Your PR was shot down because the merge window is for 2MB hard fork only. If you can gain supermajority support on consider.it with your PR in the future, it can be re-opened. I also feel that your submission of such a PR was nothing more than trolling, but that's just my personal opinion and why I personally NACK'd almost instantly.

Brian Hoffman [10:38 PM] Seemed like a stoned dude 3 3

Oliver [10:38 PM] @jameshilliard: ok, I appreciate you saying that, and I hope you re-open your mind to the possibility that some involved with Classic are worth talking to about all this.

dts [10:38 PM] @opet: will https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/20 be shot down ?

GitHub Increase max connections to reduce chance of eclipse attacks by cointracker · Pull Request #20 · bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic · GitHub If there are still a large number of non-classic nodes when the hard fork activates regular nodes may create what is effectively an eclipse attack, this should significantly reduce the likelihood o...

Oliver [10:39 PM] @elliotolds: I proposed something similar to Adam last night involving time gates for those two PR's, specifically.

Warren Togami [10:40 PM] @mtoomim: Nice talking with you. Please consider getting some rest. 4

dts [10:40 PM] Bitcoin Classic is the topic of #classic-fork though

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justino [10:44 PM] was that the real @mtoomim? how can we know

dinbits [10:44 PM] One in altered states perhaps.

dts [10:44 PM] he replied to the email and slack verifies emails too

Oliver [10:44 PM] @dts: I agree with Peter that there may be more efficient ways than, but simply increasing max connections might tax/destroy nodes. I doubt it will see an ACK before the HF.

dts [10:45 PM] look at his email on bitcoinclassic slack

James Hillard [10:45 PM] @justino: he's on hangouts with me so yeah....

Washington Sanchez [10:45 PM] It's him

eric-ledger [10:45 PM] why is he doing this circus?

anduck [10:46 PM] because that's probably what users at consider.it voted for 8 4

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Michael Toomim [10:49 PM] I gotta get back to work guys thanks for chatting with me!

Oliver [10:49 PM] i dont understand wth just happened with Michael...

epscy [10:50 PM] @mtoomim: have fun dude

Nicolas Bacca [10:50 PM] please don't commit anything 4