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The URL for this particular subforum is: [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general) If the strat doesn’t answer your question, read this before posting: [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/525993-jons-ask-for-help-guide](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/525993-jons-ask-for-help-guide) ## Table of contents: If you want to get going as quickly as possible, you should read the strat. I also would recommend reading the FAQ. If you want a more thorough understanding of how the game works, read everything. **The Strat:** [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat) **Math Behind The Strat:** [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat?page=1#posts-9332199](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat?page=1#posts-9332199) **Strat FAQ:** [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat?page=1#posts-9332236](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat?page=1#posts-9332236) **FAQ:** [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat?page=1#posts-9332394](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504680-jons-speedy-earth-strat?page=1#posts-9332394) ## The Strat I tend to see a lot of suboptimal advice here and I’d like folks to succeed. As opposed to telling you what you should do at every step, I’m going to break the game down into broad categories and discuss each one. Ultimately being successful at adventure capitalist means turning the game into a series of optimizations and balancing the amount of work required for each optimization with the benefit it provides. For example when buying businesses you could buy them at random. However, I think most people would consider that to not be a good idea. On the other hand, you could write a computer program and try to model purchasing specific numbers of each business at specific times. However, figuring that out, listing it, and actually doing it would be largely impractical. Thus what we want is a strategy that is somewhere in between. One that is easy to execute and yet does a pretty good job of increasing profits. That’s the general theme of this guide. My strategy involves 3 sets of optimizations. 1. Buying stuff for cash. 2. When to reset. 3. Buying stuff with angels. ### Buying stuff for cash: You can spend cash on upgrades and on businesses. When buying a cash upgrade, it’s often beneficial to purchase them out of order. For example if you see a x whatever to all profits upgrade in the list, it’s often a good idea to try and get that first if it’s close in cost to another upgrade you can reach. When buying businesses for cash you should always do it with an unlock in mind. There is no all time best business to invest in. Each business at some point in the game will be the best. Thus the best business to invest in changes constantly. Instead you should concentrate on unlocks. For example there is very little profit to be gained from going from 1000 lemons to 1090 lemons. However, because of the unlock, going from 1000 lemons to 1100 lemons is much more profitable. That means if you can’t afford enough to reach the next unlock, don’t bother. The x1, x10, x100, MAX toggle in the upper right is very good for using to estimate what the cost of the next unlock will be and whether or not you’re likely to be able to afford it. Keep in mind that because of how the business costs increase, the first 90 can be a lot cheaper than the last 10. So how do you choose which upgrade or unlock to put your money into? Well x whatever to all profits upgrades or “everything” unlocks which effectively double profits are a no brainer. However what about upgrades or unlocks that affect a specific business? For that you need to have some idea how much each business is making relative to the others. The best way to do that is to figure out how much each business is making per second. If you have the angel managers, the game does this for you. If you don’t, simply divide the amount the business makes by the length of its timer in seconds. Once you have an idea of how much each business is making relative to the others, go for the upgrades and unlocks that you can afford that boost your most profitable business. ### When to reset This is probably the most difficult to optimize. However this topic and when to buy angel upgrades are linked. You don’t want to buy a bunch of angel upgrades and immediately reset without recouping your losses. You also don’t want to buy stuff with angels and have it actually increase your arbitrary reset point. Thus in order to optimize your angel purchasing strategy, you have to nail your reset strategy. As a general case I recommend simply doing your first reset at ~~150~~ 30 ([http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/583214](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/583214)), and then resetting each time they double. That means resetting when the number you have waiting equals the number you had prior to any angel purchases. So you should reset at 30, then at 30 + 30 = 60, then at 60 + 60 = 120, and so on. If you make an angel purchase, recoup the loss. For example if you have 2 billion angels you’d normally reset when it says you’ll get 2 billion angels (2 + 2 = 4). However if you spend 1 billion of them, you want to make sure you reset when it says you’ll get 3 billion back (2 – 1 + 2 + 1 = 4). Some exceptions to this are if you’re earning angels really fast or if you’re earning them really slow. If you’re earning them really fast it might be tedious to keep resetting when they double. In this case you might want to let it ride a bit. If you’re earning them really slow it might be too long of a wait (who wants to a wait a month between resets?). In this case you might want to reset once a day or when you increase by 50% or even 10%. In these cases I like to think of resets like another unlock or cash upgrade. Basically if you have doubled your angels, that’s equal to a 2x profits upgrade. If you don’t think you’ll be able to double profits (or angels) in a short amount of time, resetting makes sense. Another way to look at resets is to think about them in terms how long it would take to get to where you are now. For example if you reset 1 hour ago, and you’ve doubled your angels, than means you could get back to the same income in 30 minutes. If the next significant cash unlock or upgrade is more than 30 minutes away you should consider a reset. ### Buying stuff with Angels This is probably the most critical thing to optimize. Spending angels incorrectly will greatly slow your progress or even ruin your game in extreme cases. In most cases, you’ll simply buy upgrades until the game prompts you with a warning. Once the warning prompt comes up, you should carefully consider the purchase. Lots of people advise not buying any angel upgrades where the warning is displayed. This is called the 1% rule because the warning pops up when an upgrade costs more than 1% of your total. It’s also not a great strategy. Playing this way is safe, but very very slow. For example following this rule has you buying the first angel upgrade for 10k x3 to all profits at 1M angels. It’s actually worth it at 30k angels. Lots of folks get stuck when they hit the octillions and nonillions. Why? Because they ignore purchasing the 1 billion x5 to all profits upgrade at 2 billion angels and instead heed the warning and try and wait until they have 100 billion angels which will slow their game to a glacial speed. Example: [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504659-angels-transfer-rate?page=1#posts-9332793](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/504659-angels-transfer-rate?page=1#posts-9332793) Knowing when to buy upgrades can be tricky because they are linked with when you reset. Fortunately, if you’ve been reading along, we have simplified resets to where you do it every time your angels double. Since we now know approximately when we will be resetting, we can optimize when angel upgrades should be bought. There are 5 types of angel upgrades: 1. All profits multipliers. 2. Profit multipliers for a specific business. 3. Angel effectiveness upgrades. 4. Business swap upgrades. 5. Angel Managers, qwik buy, ez upgrader, the moon, etc… However, they should all be treated fairly similarly. You need to “convert” each upgrade to an all profits multiplier and treat it accordingly. I’ll go over each in detail here. **All profits multipliers:** These are very simple. You want to spend up to 1/2 of your angels on all profits multipliers of x4 or better, 1/3 on x3, and 1/4 on x2. For example the first angel upgrade which costs 10k for a x3 all profits upgrade should be bought when you have 30k. **Profit multiplier for a specific business:** Figure out how much the business is earning relative to the others and convert that to an all profits multiplier. For example if donuts are earning 50% of your total profit and you’re looking at a x3 multiplier to donuts, buying it has the effect of a x2 all profits multiplier, meaning you’d want to wait until it cost a quarter of your angels before buying. **Angel effectiveness upgrade:** These generally are not very great as you’ll see. To convert this, use the following formula. Let A = angels Let C = the cost Let E = the angel effectiveness Let I = the angel effectiveness increase You’re basically comparing A \* E with (A – C) \* (E + I). For example let’s say you have 200k angels, your angel effectiveness is 7%, and you’re looking at an upgrade that costs 100k angels that increases your angel effectiveness by 2%. Your pre purchase value would be 200000 \* .07 = 14000 Your post purchase value would be (200000 – 100000) \* (.07 + .02) = 9000 Clearly not a good choice since your income would actually decrease considerably. What if you had 1M angels? 1000000 \* .07 = 70000 (1000000 – 100000) \* (.07 + .02) = 81000 Better, but you’re still spending 10% of your angels for a relative profit increase of only 16%. **Business swap:** These can be somewhat confusing. Basically what they do is allow you to buy the number of the business indicated with angels, but they don’t increase the business purchase cost. That means in real terms that you can use them to achieve unlocks you couldn’t reach before because the businesses were too expensive to buy with cash. How much they are worth is totally dependent on which unlock they help you with. For example an everything unlock is worth x2 to all profits. Thus spending a quarter of your angels on one of these can totally make sense. If you do not need them to reach an unlock, they are a waste. For example +10 business swap that takes you from 590 to 600 of a business and gets you an “everything” unlock is great. One that takes you from 600 to 610 is bad. Therefore it’s a good idea to wait and see if you’ll need them or not if they are relatively expensive. **Angel Managers, quik buy, ez upgrader, the moon, etc…** Quite frankly this whole category sucks. They are all convenience items. Everything in this category provides very little profit and should only be purchased when they represent a tiny fraction (less than 1%) of your total. The quik buy and ez upgrader make things easier, but do zero to increase profits. Speeding up the moon also does nothing for profits. Unfortunately lots of people are attracted to the 10% off from angel managers, however 10% off is worth 1 maybe 2 of a business. It’s a red herring. The real benefit of these is the per second indicator which helps make better business comparisons later on when the little green bars go solid. Because they are cheap, folks often buy them way too early. Spending 10 of your 150 first reset angels on this is a bust. So is spending your first 1000 or 10000 of your angels on these. Don’t do it. Wait until much much later when buying won’t impact profits dramatically. metadata ## The Math Behind the Strat This post describes the math behind the strategy. If you don’t like math, just read the strat in the post above and ignore this one. There are a few basic formulas which govern the game: 1. Formula for angel acquisition. 2. Formula for business income without angels. 3. Formula for business cost increase. 4. Formula for bonus income from angels. ### Formula for angel acquisition The devs have told us, and it checks out, that the formula for angel aquisition is: TAE = Total Angels Earned TLE = Total Lifetime Earnings sqrt = square root F = Angel Formula Multiplier, for Earth this is 150. TAE = F \* sqrt (TLE/10^15) I find it easier to use if I solve for total lifetime earnings, that way I can enter a specific number of angels into the formula and figure out how much I have to earn to get them. TLE = (TAE/F)^2 \* 10^15 Now I can start plugging this into wolfram alpha to get numbers. For example to earn the first angel: [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%281%2F150%29^2+\*+10^15](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%281%2F150%29^2+*+10^15) $44.4 billion in lifetime earnings To earn the second angel: [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%282%2F150%29^2+\*+10^15](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%282%2F150%29^2+*+10^15) $177.8 billion in lifetime earnings This tells us 2 things. First, that in order to double your lifetime angel earnings, you need to quadruple your lifetime cash earnings. Second, that it’s lifetime earnings not session earnings that matter. This means that every angel you acquire will take more cash than the previous one no matter what. Resetting does not change this! ### Formula for Business Income Without Angels All the businesses have a base income amount. This is the amount you make when you have 1 of the business and no bonuses or additional income of any kind. For example the base income of lemons is $1 per tick. This increases linearly with the number of businesses bought. So if you have 10 lemonade stands, they will earn $10 per tick in the absence of any bonuses. Let B = the base income. Let N = the number of the business you have Let M = business profit multipliers (like the ones that come from unlocks or upgrades, ex. x2 to lemonade profits) Let P = all profits multipliers (again like the ones that come unlocks or upgrades, ex. x2 to all profits) Business income without angels per tick = B \* N \* M \* P Since each business “ticks” at a different rate, if you want to compare them you need to figure out how much each one makes in a specific amount of time. Seconds is the easiest. If you have the angel managers, the game does this for you. Let T = the length of the timer in seconds Business income without angels per second = (B \* N \* M \* P)/T Your total income without angels is the sum of the above formula applied to all your businesses. ### Formula for Business Cost Increase I’m sure everyone has noticed that each business you buy costs more than the previous one. The rate of this increase is fixed. Lemons = 7% Newspapers = 15% Cars = 14% Pizza = 13% Donuts = 12% Shrimp = 11% Hockey = 10% Movies = 9% Banks = 8% Oil = 7% The above percentages are also why newspapers become so expensive while oil becomes relatively cheap. Each business also has a base price, which is simply the cost of the first one. Lemons = $4 (they give you the first one for free, the second one is $4) Newspapers = $60 Cars = $720 Pizza = $8,640 Donuts = $103,680 Shrimp = $1,244,160 Hockey = $14,929,920 Movies = $179,159,040 Banks = $2,149,000,000 Oil = $25,798,000,000 Basically excluding lemons and newspapers, each business starts off costing about 12x more than the previous one. Using the info above we can see the first newspaper costs $60. That means the second newspaper will cost 60 \* 1.15 = $69. The third will cost $69 \* 1.15 = $79.35. To figure out the cost for a specific business such as the 3rd newspaper BP = base price RI = rate of increase N = number bought M = managers (either .9 for the Angel one, .00001 for the cash one, or .000009 for both since they stack) S = total of all angel business swaps you’ve bought Cost = BP \* M \* (1 + RI)^(N-S-1) Lemons require a slight adjustment because the first is free: Lemon Cost = BP \* M \* (1 + RI)^(N-S-2) So using newspapers and wolfram alpha we see the third would again cost: [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=60\*%281+%2B+.15%29^%283-1%29](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=60*%281+%2B+.15%29^%283-1%29) $79.35 The 11th one would cost: [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=60\*%281+%2B+.15%29^%2811-1%29](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=60*%281+%2B+.15%29^%2811-1%29) $242.73 Using this you can perform certain calculations of interest like when will newspapers overtake oil in cost? 60\*(1+0.15)^(N-1) \> 25798000000\*(1+0.07)^(N-1) [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Solve[60\*%281%2B0.15%29^%28N-1%29+%3E+25798000000\*%281%2B0.07%29^%28N-1%29]](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Solve[60*%281%2B0.15%29^%28N-1%29+%3E+25798000000*%281%2B0.07%29^%28N-1%29]) Click the “approximate form” button and you get 277. So the 277th newspaper costs more than the 277th oil. What if we want to know how much it’ll cost to buy a certain number of businesses? For example 3 newspapers costs $60 + $69 + $79.35 = $208.35. Wolfram alpha has us covered there too: [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Sum[60\*%281%2B0.15%29^%28N-1%29%2C+N%3D1+to+3]](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Sum[60*%281%2B0.15%29^%28N-1%29%2C+N%3D1+to+3]) $208.35 How much would newspapers from 11-20 cost (buy the first 10 and look at how much x10 more would be)? [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Sum[60\*%281%2B0.15%29^%28N-1%29%2C+N%3D11+to+20]](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Sum[60*%281%2B0.15%29^%28N-1%29%2C+N%3D11+to+20]) $4928.39 This is really useful for when x100 just won’t do. For example that last oil unlock (since the update it is no longer the last one, instead it’s the 41st oil unlock in the gallery). Don’t forget the managers and the +35 oil from business swaps. [https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Sum%5B25798000000\*.000009\*%281%2B0.07%29%5E%28N-35-1%29%2C+N%3D6501+to+6750%5D](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Sum%5B25798000000*.000009*%281%2B0.07%29%5E%28N-35-1%29%2C+N%3D6501+to+6750%5D) 680 sexsexigintillion ### Formula for Bonus Income From Angels The investors tab tells us that each angel provides a percentage bonus (angel effectiveness). This bonus is simply: Let A = angel investors Let E = angel effectiveness A \* E To apply the bonus: Let X = the sum total of all your non angel income as discussed previously X \* (1 + A \* E) For example if you have just reset and you have 150 angels, 1 lemonade stand, and are logged in to kongregate; the game should indicate that lemons will earn per tick: $1 \* (1 + 150 \* .07) = $11.50 From this we can derive some simple formulas that describe what happens when angel upgrades are bought. **If you buy an all profits multiplier with angels:** Let M = the multiplier (x3, x4, whatever) Let C = the angel cost of the upgrade X \* M \* (1 + (A – C) \* E) What if we want to know whether or not an all profits upgrade is profitable? That’s asking is: X \* M \* (1 + (A – C) \* E) \> X \* (1 + A \* E) We can simplify this substantially. 1. Divide by X on both sides. M \* (1 + (A – C) \* E) \> (1 + A \* E) 2. Ditch the 1 because for large values of A, it’s quite insignificant. M \* (A – C) \* E \> A \* E 3. Divide by E on both sides. M \* (A – C) \> A Now stick in some real numbers. For example let’s say you have 30k angels and you’re looking to buy the 10k angel x3 to all profits upgrade. You’re basically asking, is: 3 \* (30000 – 10000) \> 30000 60000 \> 30000 The answer is yes the upgrade is profitable. It’s in fact 60000/30000 = 2x as profitable. What if you had 12k angels instead of 30k? You’re then asking is: 3 \* (12000 – 10000) \> 12000 The answer is no the upgrade is not profitable. **If you buy an angel effectiveness upgrade with angels:** Let I = angel effectiveness increase Let C = the angel cost of the upgrade X \* (1 + (A – C) \* (E + I)) What if we want to know whether or not an angel effectiveness upgrade is profitable? That’s asking is: X \* (1 + (A – C) \* (E + I)) \> X \* (1 + A\*E) Again we can simplify greatly. 1. Divide by X on both sides. (1 + (A – C) \* (E + I)) \> (1 + A\*E) 2. Get rid of the 1 since it is insignificant compared to large values of A. (A – C) \* (E + I) \> A\*E Now stick in some real numbers. Let’s say we have 200k angels with a 7% angel effectiveness and we want to buy a plus 2% angel effectiveness upgrade that costs 100k angels. You’re basically asking is: (200000 – 100000) \* (.07 + .02) \> 200000 \* .07 9000 \> 14000 The answer is no the upgrade is not profitable. What if you had 1M angels? You’re basically asking is: (1000000 – 100000) \* (.07 + .02) \> 1000000 \* .07 81000 \> 70000 The answer is yes the upgrade is profitable. **Keep in mind that just because an upgrade is profitable, does not mean you should buy it! As whether or not you should buy it depends on when you plan to reset. However, if an upgrade is not profitable you should never buy it.** **When should we buy a profitable upgrade?** We know that when we spend angels on an upgrade, we need to earn the angels back. So the question is, are the increased profits enough to overcome the time required to recoup the angel expenditure? One way to figure this out is to compare the amount of profit being made to the amount of the cost increase. Looking at an all profits multiplier. The simplified profits equation is: M = multiplier A = angels C = upgrade cost M \* (A – C) / A An approximation for the cost increase assuming you’re doubling and recouping is: ((3 \* A + C) \* (A + C))/(3 \* A^2) So we’re looking for: M \* (A – C)/A \> ((3 \* A + C) \* (A + C))/(3 \* A^2) Let’s plug in some numbers where the first angel upgrade for 10k which is a x3 to all profits is bought at 30k and 16k. 30k: 3 \* (30000 – 10000)/30000 \> ((3 \* 30000 + 10000) \* (30000 + 10000))/(3 \* 30000^2) 2 \> 1.48 So basically profits double, but the relative cost is only increased by 48%. This is good because the time to double will be decreased. 16k: 3 \* (16000 – 10000)/16000 \> ((3 \* 16000 + 10000) \* (16000 + 10000))/(3 \* 16000^2) 1.125 \> 1.96 So here profits increase by a bit over 12%, but the relative cost is increased by 96%. This is bad because although a profit is being made, the time to double will be increased. metadata ## Strat FAQ Now that we have some formulas to work with we can look at several points from the strat and see why they make sense. ### Why focus on unlocks instead of individual businesses? We know that business income is: Let B = the base income. Let N = the number of the business you have Let M = business profit multipliers (like the ones that come from unlocks or upgrades, ex. x2 to lemonade profits) Let P = all profits multipliers (again like the ones that come unlocks or upgrades, ex. x2 to all profits) Business income without angels per tick = B \* N \* M \* P Thus when we buy businesses we’re just increasing the value of N. If N is already sufficiently large (say over 1000) increasing it does very little compared to getting an unlock which increases M or P. ### Why reset when angels double? Optimizing resets is very hard. Thus in my opinion it makes sense to choose an arbitrary point to reset which allows us to optimize angel purchases against that reset. Doubling makes sense because it fits nicely with the angel acquisition formula (i.e. doubling angels = quadrupling earnings). This greatly simplifies other calculations and we want the strategy to be simple. It’s also usually a reasonable amount of time. I’d say it’s Goldilocks of reset points. Not too long, not too short, but just right. ### Why buy all profits upgrades using 1/2 your angels for x4 and higher, 1/3 for x3, and 1/4 for x2? Most people don’t want to do lots of math to figure out if they should buy something or not. This is pretty easy to remember, easy to calculate, and a lot better than the 1% rule. Basically the math has already been done for you using the formula describing whether or not an upgrade should be bought, and the result has been simplified into a simple rule. It’s not optimal, but it’s good enough. ### Why are the 10% managers bad? Lots of people see 10% off and think that’s worth 10% of your angels. These people are not taking into account the relative increase of business costs for each purchase. Since we have a formula for figuring out the cost for business purchases, let’s apply it to buying 500 oil. 500 oil without the manager: [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[25798000000+\*+%281+%2B+.07%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[25798000000+*+%281+%2B+.07%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]) 181 septillion 500 oil with the manager: [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[25798000000+\*+.9+\*+%281+%2B+.07%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[25798000000+*+.9+*+%281+%2B+.07%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]) 163 septillion Makes sense right? 10% off. Well let’s see how many 498 oil is without the manager: [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[25798000000+\*+%281+%2B+.07%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+498]](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[25798000000+*+%281+%2B+.07%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+498]) 158 septillion So basically with the manager you get 2 more oil in the same time. Weeee! Granted it’s only 10 angels, but if you’re stuck this is not going to help you a whole lot. It’s also not at all worth it if you’re on your first reset. However, 10 angels isn’t too bad if you have a few billion. However, what about that newspaper manager? Everyone wants more newspapers right? He costs 1 billion angels. Let’s look at those costs: Cost of 500 newspapers without manager: [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[60+\*+%281+%2B+.15%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[60+*+%281+%2B+.15%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]) 893 nonillion Cost of 500 newspapers with manager: [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[60+\*+.9+\*+%281+%2B+.15%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[60+*+.9+*+%281+%2B+.15%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+500]) 804 nonillion Cost of 499 newspapers without manager: [http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[60+\*+%281+%2B+.15%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+499]](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum[60+*+%281+%2B+.15%29^%28n-1%29%2C+n+%3D+1+to+499]) 777 nonillion Weee…you don’t even get one more. Now ask yourself, would you spend any significant portion of your angels to maybe get 1 or 2 more of a business? Probably not. Also keep in mind the above examples don’t take into account the amount of profit lost from spending the angels. If you’re spending a large percentage of your angels on these managers, you’re actually going to lengthen the amount of time to get the same number of the business as before. metadata ## FAQ ## New to the Game Questions ### What are the names and order of all those whacky numbers the game uses? [http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Pointless/BigNumbers.html](http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Pointless/BigNumbers.html) ### Which suit should I get? [https://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/603856-jons-handy-dandy-suit-guide](https://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/603856-jons-handy-dandy-suit-guide) ### How do I get the 5% bonus? Login to Kongregate through the app. If you’re logged in, you’re getting it. If it doesn’t show, it’s a display bug. You’re still getting it. You do not get it from posting. If you repeatedly post nonsense, the mods will silence you. ### What do Mega Bucks do? [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/608702-jons-mega-mega-buck-and-mega-ticket-guide](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/608702-jons-mega-mega-buck-and-mega-ticket-guide) ### What do I lose when I reset? You lose everything but gold, purchases made with gold, mega bucks, things bought with mega bucks, and unspent angels. ### When I reset does it affect another planet? No. Neither the planet nor the timer for getting to planet are affected. ### What does the EZ Upgrader do? It puts a button on your main screen that shows what the next cash upgrade is and allows you to buy it without having to go to the cash upgrades screen. ### What does Quik Buy do? It adds a button to the upgrade screen that will instantly buy all the cash upgrades you can afford and all of the “safe” angel upgrades (ones that the game wouldn’t normally warn you about that cost less than 1% of your total). This is a pretty convenient item, but also very expensive in the early game. Don’t buy it until you have quadrillions of angels. ### When I watch an ad, my income doesn’t double. I bought a x3 multiplier and my profits didn’t triple. What gives? Purchased multipliers and the ads are all additive. Thus if you have a x9 purchased multiplier and watch an ad, your profits will be multiplied by x11, not x18. Similarly if you already have a x3 multiplier and buy another one, you’re multiplier will be x6 not x9. ### Does the order I buy upgrades in matter? In the short term yes if you order your upgrades according to which are most profitable. Ultimately, though it doesn’t matter. If I buy 100 upgrades, my per second income will be the same regardless of the order they were bought in. For example there is no real benefit for waiting to buy cheap business swap upgrades as opposed to using quik buy to do it. ### What does the x1, x10, x100, Max button do? It allows you to buy 1, 10, 100 or the maximum number of the business you can afford. ### Are businesses cheaper if bought in bulk? No. ### If I buy a large number of a business at once, will I still get all of the unlocks for it? Yes. The game will only show one of them, but you’ll get all of them. You can double check this by viewing the unlocks in the gallery. ### Do the 10% off managers and the 99.999% off managers stack? Yes. ### Should I wait to buy an upgrade until I have more businesses so that the upgrade will be worth more? It makes no difference. Upgrades apply to all past, present, and future purchased items for the current reset cycle. ### I bought the 99.999% off managers and nothing happened. Why? Lots of people see these and think it’ll suddenly make items free because 99.999% off is a lot right? Well not exactly. 99.999% off is the same as removing 5 zeroes from the price. Your businesses are priced in numbers that have hundreds of zeroes. In general, it’s enough to get you another unlock from that business. Useful? Yes. A windfall? Not really. ## Moon Related Questions ### How do I get to the moon? You have to earn 1 trillion in session earnings. When you do, tap the Launch button, tap mission control, and pay the 1 trillion to start the 200 hour timer. Optionally you can speed up the launch with cash, angels, and gold. ### If I reset on Earth will it restart my moon timer or otherwise affect the moon? No. ### My ad bonus timer is not lasting 4 hours. If you own any flux capacitors, the time speed up from those also applies to the ad timer. ## Bug Related Questions ### I’m not earning the money I’m supposed to while offline. Why? The ad bonus doesn’t work quite right. If you have 1 hour left on the timer, leave the game, and come back 2 hours later; you would expect to get 1 hour of boosted income + 1 hour of non boosted income. Unfortunately, you only currently only get the hour of boosted income. This can really bite you if you go to sleep with a short amount of time left on the timer. ### My ads don’t work. What do I do? [http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/476873-what-to-do-if-your-ads-dont-work](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/476873-what-to-do-if-your-ads-dont-work) ### The game isn’t working right. Before posting, try forcing quitting the app and restarting your device. ### Can I transfer my game to another device? Note, iOS 8.3 broke the ability for programs to do this without a jailbreak. I’m leaving the instructions here though because maybe they will be helpful to someone even though they no longer work. Officially no. However I did do it with my iOS device using the following instructions: You need to download a program that will let you access the filesystem on the device. I, for example, use ifunbox. [http://www.i-funbox.com/](http://www.i-funbox.com/) 1. Install the program. 2. Connect your device via the charging cable to your computer. 3. Force quit adventure capitalist. 4. Run ifunbox. 5. From within ifunbox go to User Applications→adVenture Capitalist!→Library→Preferences 6. Find a file named com.kongregate.mobile.adventurecapitalist.plist 7. Copy this file to your machine 8. Congrats! You’ve backed up your saved game file. ### I bought gold and didn’t get it. What do I do? Contact the developer via email and explain the situation. [Adventurecapitalist@hyperhippo.ca](mailto:Adventurecapitalist@hyperhippo.ca) ### I bought a new phone/erased my old one and my game is gone! The game has no cloud sync capability. Your only chance of getting it back is to contact the developer and see if they can help you. [Adventurecapitalist@hyperhippo.ca](mailto:Adventurecapitalist@hyperhippo.ca) ### I want to start over. How do I hard reset my game? Simply delete it and reinstall it. metadata This post has been removed by an administrator or moderator metadata Yes I know you’re lazy and have ADD. Move along. metadata Words can hurt Jon :( In all seriousness, good write up metadata Yeah, good idea, and really helpful. One thing that I virtually always use, is the ‘skip a day funtion’. This roughly tells you whether the upgrade or business you purchased was a good purchase. Obviously once purchased it’s too late, but it is invaluable for the next ‘restart’. metadata > *Originally posted by **[james56789](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9334125):*** > > Yeah, good idea, and really helpful. > > One thing that I virtually always use, is the ‘skip a day funtion’. This roughly tells you whether the upgrade or business you purchased was a good purchase. > > Obviously once purchased it’s too late, but it is invaluable for the next ‘restart’. Yeah that’s a helpful one. metadata Added angel purchases to my opus. I know it’s a ton of reading, but I feel it should give you a good understanding of how to play and what sort of decisions to make. I’ll be adding a really mathy post in one of the reserve spots that describes various formulas and how the strategy was derived. I also plan to add a FAQ. metadata ++jonfelder metadata Very nice. metadata Great post Jon. Regarding the business swap, you said that those upgrades don’t increase the purchase cost of the businesses. Does this mean that timing of using these upgrades is not important? For example, if I have 100 lemonade stands and the next 100 costs X dollars. If I use a +100 business upgrade to get to 200, will my next 100 lemonade stands still cost X? I’m pretty far along in the game (around 450 unlocks) and I keep saving all the business swap upgrades till the end when I can no longer afford even 1 business with cash. (Even when the angels are not even .0001% of my total angels and I know I will use them eventually, so they are angels that will definitely be sacrificed before reset). Is this a good strategy (makes sense only if the businesses cost Y now because the game is coded such that the 101th business is always A dollars and hence if you got the 100 business using angels, you still pay A dollars and not A/1000 (assuming)) metadata > *Originally posted by **[sheelu0125](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9338306):*** > > Great post Jon. > Regarding the business swap, you said that those upgrades don’t increase the purchase cost of the businesses. Does this mean that timing of using these upgrades is not important? > For example, if I have 100 lemonade stands and the next 100 costs X dollars. If I use a +100 business upgrade to get to 200, will my next 100 lemonade stands still cost X? > I’m pretty far along in the game (around 450 unlocks) and I keep saving all the business swap upgrades till the end when I can no longer afford even 1 business with cash. (Even when the angels are not even .0001% of my total angels and I know I will use them eventually, so they are angels that will definitely be sacrificed before reset). > Is this a good strategy (makes sense only if the businesses cost Y now because the game is coded such that the 101th business is always A dollars and hence if you got the 100 business using angels, you still pay A dollars and not A/1000 (assuming)) It doesn’t matter when you buy them. If you buy them at the beginning, middle, or end you’ll still end up with the same number of businesses for the same price. There is no reason to wait like you are doing. metadata > *Originally posted by [jonfelder](/forums/4724/topics/504680?page=1#9338315):*> *Originally posted by **[sheelu0125](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9338306):*** > > > > Great post Jon. > > Regarding the business swap, you said that those upgrades don’t increase the purchase cost of the businesses. Does this mean that timing of using these upgrades is not important? > > For example, if I have 100 lemonade stands and the next 100 costs X dollars. If I use a +100 business upgrade to get to 200, will my next 100 lemonade stands still cost X? > > I’m pretty far along in the game (around 450 unlocks) and I keep saving all the business swap upgrades till the end when I can no longer afford even 1 business with cash. (Even when the angels are not even .0001% of my total angels and I know I will use them eventually, so they are angels that will definitely be sacrificed before reset). > > Is this a good strategy (makes sense only if the businesses cost Y now because the game is coded such that the 101th business is always A dollars and hence if you got the 100 business using angels, you still pay A dollars and not A/1000 (assuming)) > > It doesn’t matter when you buy them. If you buy them at the beginning, middle, or end you’ll still end up with the same number of businesses for the same price. > > There is no reason to wait like you are doing. Thanks for the quick reply. This is going to save me a lot of effort. I kept doing this without questioning my underlying assumption until I saw your post. Thanks a ton metadata > *Originally posted by **[sheelu0125](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9338321):*** > > *Originally posted by [jonfelder](/forums/4724/topics/504680?page=1#9338315):*> *Originally posted by **[sheelu0125](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9338306):*** > > > > > > Great post Jon. > > > Regarding the business swap, you said that those upgrades don’t increase the purchase cost of the businesses. Does this mean that timing of using these upgrades is not important? > > > For example, if I have 100 lemonade stands and the next 100 costs X dollars. If I use a +100 business upgrade to get to 200, will my next 100 lemonade stands still cost X? > > > I’m pretty far along in the game (around 450 unlocks) and I keep saving all the business swap upgrades till the end when I can no longer afford even 1 business with cash. (Even when the angels are not even .0001% of my total angels and I know I will use them eventually, so they are angels that will definitely be sacrificed before reset). > > > Is this a good strategy (makes sense only if the businesses cost Y now because the game is coded such that the 101th business is always A dollars and hence if you got the 100 business using angels, you still pay A dollars and not A/1000 (assuming)) > > > > It doesn’t matter when you buy them. If you buy them at the beginning, middle, or end you’ll still end up with the same number of businesses for the same price. > > > > There is no reason to wait like you are doing. > > Thanks for the quick reply. This is going to save me a lot of effort. I kept doing this without questioning my underlying assumption until I saw your post. Thanks a ton No problem. Hit qwik buy with confidence. metadata Great post really helpful, Thanks! metadata Finally someone took it upon themselves to so a bunch of super complicated equations that a ten year old like me is unable to understand metadata Incoming math… metadata Excellent post. Lots of good info. If I may interject a suggestion, it would be to incorporate the word speed in the title since your strategy is mostly slated for speed. Not that your math doesn’t work well for other strategies too. metadata > *Originally posted by **[woodroward](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9341714):*** > > Excellent post. Lots of good info. > > If I may interject a suggestion, it would be to incorporate the word speed in the title since your strategy is mostly slated for speed. Not that your math doesn’t work well for other strategies too. Ok done. metadata Sorry I’m confused…if I have 150 billion angles and the upgrade that increases all profits x9 costs 100 billion would it be worth it to buy it? (Please explain) metadata > *Originally posted by **[AgentBlank](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9345731):*** > > Sorry I’m confused…if I have 150 billion angles and the upgrade that increases all profits x9 costs 100 billion would it be worth it to buy it? (Please explain) According to the strat no, as it directs you to spend no more than half. However, the strat is a simplification. Clearly if it’s ok to spend half on a x4, it’s ok to spend more than half on a x9. More math is required to figure this out tho. In this case it will triple your profits, but also increase the amount of Angels you need to earn from 150b to 250b. So the question is, is tripling profits enough to cover the increase for the number of Angels needed to reset? (250/150 + 1)^2/4 = 1.78, meaning you need a profit increase of 1.78x or higher to be worth it. So in this case you’d be golden. metadata Thankyou! metadata > *Originally posted by [jonfelder](/forums/4724/topics/504680?page=1#9345927):*> *Originally posted by **[AgentBlank](/forums/4725/topics/504680?page=1#posts-9345731):*** > > > > Sorry I’m confused…if I have 150 billion angles and the upgrade that increases all profits x9 costs 100 billion would it be worth it to buy it? (Please explain) > > According to the strat no, as it directs you to spend no more than half. However, the strat is a simplification. Clearly if it’s ok to spend half on a x4, it’s ok to spend more than half on a x9. > > More math is required to figure this out tho. > > In this case it will triple your profits, but also increase the amount of Angels you need to earn from 150b to 250b. So the question is, is tripling profits enough to cover the increase for the number of Angels needed to reset? > > (250/150 + 1)^2/4 = 1.78, meaning you need a profit increase of 1.78x or higher to be worth it. > > So in this case you’d be golden. Thanks! I’ve been stuck in the octillions and after buying that upgrade I’m already in the decillions and on my way to the moon. Your guide works wonders bro! « Prev

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