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"VIDEO: Karl Rove's Attorney Says Client Would Testify If Subpoenaed By Congress In Siegelman Case"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/8/2008 @ 6:12 am PT...





There was Abrams in all of his splendor, instead of helping Don explain all of the names he was dropping at one point, Dan said something to the effect of 'keeping it simple'. Sounded more like hush-hush

horseshit journalism IMO

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 4/8/2008 @ 6:30 am PT...





It irks me too Floridiot, as if the total abuse of our justuce system is some kind of pop culture cartoon!

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/8/2008 @ 6:36 am PT...





It seemed that Segalman was trying to tell us the connection between the Indian casino gaming boys and his case with the education lottery which Abramoff was trying to squelch, which would be the motive. And Abramoff ties into McCain at some point and 'McCain's Media' couldn't let that happen.

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 4/8/2008 @ 7:31 am PT...





If ever there was a case for an independent counsil...

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 4/8/2008 @ 7:41 am PT...



COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... socrates said on 4/8/2008 @ 8:12 am PT...





I agree with the above sentiments that Dan Abrams dropped the ball. It's real easy to come out "fighting for justice," after stories have already emerged. He also seemed to be playing lawyer rather than truthseeker. Maybe Siegelman could blog here? I respect how humble he is, how he is trying to get people to see the big picture. Abrams is just trying to get ratings, imho.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... naschkatze said on 4/8/2008 @ 9:22 am PT...





Ancient, definitely a case for an independent prosecutor or even a special prosecutor under the next DEMOCRATIC administration. In a way, I am glad that the appeal is supposed to be delayed because I don't want any more investigations and prosecutions taking place under the current DOJ. I expect that there will be many such cases down the line because "justice" has been so politicized under Cheney/Bush. Isn't there something involving a judge in Mississippi rearing its head?

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/8/2008 @ 10:00 am PT...



COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 4/8/2008 @ 10:10 am PT...





Naschkatze, a couple more great sites to read more articles: http://www.atlargely.com/ http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/03/0081943

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Michelle l. said on 4/8/2008 @ 10:51 am PT...





It would be nice to find a credible, and well-researched article that explains how Abramoff fits in to all of this. Cheney was just in Kentucky last week, and only six people greeted him at the airport, one Hal Rogers who received $30,000 from Abramoff. Apparently, Abramoff's further prosecution has been squelched some way in Alabama, but there are so many players it's difficult to find the "head of the octopus." The Republicans must have written a business plan to take control of the country with the millinneum. It's when the panic propaganda and Y2K scares began. Down by the Warner Robins, Georgia Air Force Base, 1999 they feigned a helicopter crashing into a bus and even painted up real people to appear bloody-injured. They taped the expensive stunt as a "practice session" for rescue workers. After seeing the helicopter take a verticle dive beyond the trees from the back yard view, it was a relief when the local newspaper explained the incident. When 911 happened I figured they'd show a helicopter crashing into a bus on TV. Same year somebody dropped an "anthrax" envelope on the CNN station building in Atlanta, and the entire building was evacuated. And in the news, some Navy guys were court-martialed for refusing anthrax vaccination shots. Some took them, and died. Seems all of this madness started well before "911." And maybe Siegelman's demise is part of a larger "takeover" plan where corporations and private industry will replace government as we've known it. The Republicans have definitely been fighting to continue war, enrich and reward corporations, private business, and overseas endeavors, and agressively destroy anyone or anything in their paths. Cheney and the Bush White House have defied law, and dared those who question; even violated the privacy of the Americans who pay their salaries. Congress sings along with them and allows it. It will probably be internet bloggers who will finally uncover the truth about this and other long-term plans since the country became dark and frightening with the Assassination Years. They still haven't explained the double murder/suicide with Strategum, and why so many Republicans are dying in crashes, hanging, accident, suicide, etc. So quickly we forget, and it's very possibly linked. Dead men tell no tales. Sorry for the history lesson, and thoughts somewhat, "off subject" - but I believe Siegelman was probably on a long-term, well-designed hit list along with many others. The fact they haven't diligently scrutinized Baldwin County voting records is proof there's plenty of water already over the dam.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Linda said on 4/8/2008 @ 11:02 am PT...





That statement by KRs lawyer jumped out at me:

"As KR has repeatedly stated, he did not speak with anyone in the WH or the JD concerning the prosecution of Siegelman." This Rove/Siegelman issue goes way back, at least 14 years. Rove is both a brilliant strategist and word-parser. It's completely understandable that KR would have set this Siegelman smear up long before his team was ever in the WH, and that he and Bush would have had a pre-presidential agreement that they would never speak of any of their illegal pre-2000 shenanigans once George was in the WH. Re KRs professed willingness to testify. Sure. Why not. He's made sure he never technically lied, so all a high-profile testimony will do for him is sell his book. BTW, how is his book doing?

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 4/8/2008 @ 11:41 am PT...





Hey Michelle L, great site!

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Michelle l. said on 4/8/2008 @ 12:05 pm PT...





No plans to purchase Rove's book, but check out what they did to former Governor Paul Patton of Kentucky. I've often wondered if his mistress situation was a lure, bait and hook tactic. Patton came on TV with tissues and appologies. His life was ruined. Then Republican Physician Ernie Fletcher became Governor and nearly his entire cabinet committed crimes and received pardons. Neocon strategy is defy the law and destroy anyone who gets in the way, then pardon all your investor/business buddies. To take Georgia they tagged a veterinarian, Sonny Perdue, a lifelong Democrat, to swap parties. And he got up and prayed to the Lord Almighty for rain. (Yes, really.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vMAVnRWgPk

(there are more serious clips than this) I doubt any of the folks listed below gave $1/2 mil to political campaigns, but still..........

http://www.kentucky.gov/newsroom/ Since 1885 there have been about 350 Governors in the South's 11 most southeastern states. Of those, about 40 have been Republican, and of those, almost half were elected Governor since 1990, which reveals a trend or plan. A liberal friend believes the very rare KKK types in the South are Republican, but he's not old enough to know they were die-hard Democrats years ago because in those days few knew what a Republican was. What happened, is "those" switched over and became Republicans. More hate crimes happen outside the South and it's very exciting Obama is proving the South has been misjudged and stereotyped by the MSM. Racism is not an easy tag to carry.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Michelle l. said on 4/8/2008 @ 12:11 pm PT...





Ancient, aw shucks, ....thanks

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/8/2008 @ 1:46 pm PT...





Michelle L #10-This site has a lot of the Siegalman/Abramoff mess if you haven't seen it yet Link

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 4/8/2008 @ 3:42 pm PT...





I do not think Dan Abrams dropped the ball. He must be circumspect, and the governor must get a PR person. The governor went from being an elite to being a prisoner in a sicko system. That totally kicked his ass, as it would anyone. And clearly, for those who do not yet get it, he is suffering from PTSS, because the joint is a place that will fuck you up bigtime if you have lived the good life and all of a sudden get "jointed". He needs to let someone else deal with the public until he heals a bit. What he is saying is the truth, however, when the fuck has that ever mattered? The rovian gang of bushies dragged a tree behind them to cover their trail. And it will take very professional procedure to handle this matter and track the fascists back to the bung hole. Most panty waist dems still think Amurka is smaller than America. They are dead WRONG and are still being handled by BIG BROTHER republicans who wrote the book on Amurkan fascism.

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... Michelle l. said on 4/8/2008 @ 5:11 pm PT...





Thanky Floridiot, I'm going there. George W. Bush appointed Leura Canary US Attorney at exactly the same time he appointed Steve Pence, US Attorney of the Western District of Kentucky. It was just before 911. And it wasn't long before Steve Pence was the Lt. Governor under Republican Governor Ernie Fletcher, a physician. It's too bad you can't get some of Karl Rove's cliff notes and you'd see how they've planned to take whatever they can, wherever they can but they really have targeted the South.

http://www.crispexi.net/...2001/09/20010904-12.html Do you see homeland security searching yachts and private corporate jets? It's a good thing Bush bought the Paraguay land, because Brazil doesn't like those people at all.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... JUDGE OF JUDGES said on 4/8/2008 @ 7:48 pm PT...





{-:Blog Ed Note ~ Don Siegelman ~ Karma Corrected ;-} Mister Ed Hussein ? ~ Who knew . . .

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 4/9/2008 @ 2:37 am PT...





Let's not jump to conclusions about Abrams dropping the ball yet. It's probably his reporting that got Siegelman released in the first place. Maybe he's just trying to make sure the story doesn't get too complex, too soon.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 4/9/2008 @ 2:42 am PT...





The disturbing thing is that Rove's attorney probably wouldn't have said he was willing to testify unless he had assurances congress wasn't going to ask him to testify.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/9/2008 @ 7:01 am PT...





I'll keep it simple for Abrams then: Contributions to John McCain (R-Ariz) Recipient Donor Total Cycle

John McCain (R-Ariz) Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians $4,000 2004

John McCain (R-Ariz) Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians $1,000 2000 Link

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/9/2008 @ 7:07 am PT...





The above is why 'McCain's Media' doesn't want to delve too far into the Siegelman scandal. Gus Boulis' name might come up eventually. Stealing old ladies Social Security checks might also.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/9/2008 @ 7:44 am PT...





In a February 6 CBS Evening News report on a dispute over lobbying reform between Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), CBS News contributor Gloria Borger uncritically presented McCain's version of the dispute. Noting that McCain accused Obama of distancing himself from McCain's reform proposals for "partisan reasons," Borger proclaimed: "It's very clear that lobbying reform is a very personal issue for John McCain. It's very important to John McCain." But in touting the importance of lobbying reform to McCain and suggesting that it explained the tone of McCain's letter to Obama, Borger left out some relevant facts... Media Matters

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/9/2008 @ 7:59 am PT...





Though John McCain has repeatedly claimed he took on Jack Abramoff and the Republican culture of corruption, a recent story revealed that McCain covered for his friend, Alabama Governor Bob Riley, who was fighting a tight reelection battle at the time, by refusing to release key evidence that would have linked Riley to the Abramoff scandal. Yesterday, Riley returned the favor by endorsing McCain. It goes on and on.

You get my drift? Google

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 4/9/2008 @ 12:29 pm PT...





You're on it Floridiot! I should spend more time on Media Matters. Abrams may have been given this story for the specific purpose of easily laying it to rest, while appearing to be covering it. If the media thinks I'm paranoid for saying such a thing, well you're damn right, I am paranoid about every single person on the media today. The day after Siegelman was on, I skipped through the whole show because I really don't need Pat Buchanan's opinion on anything. I don't trust the other two pundits (learned persons) he had on either.

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... Michelle l. said on 4/9/2008 @ 1:10 pm PT...





Republican Orlando based Strategum Group had clients covering four states: Georgia, Alabama, Florida and (Las Vegas) Nevada. The late Gonzalez and Abrami were tight with Ralph Reed and the GOP in Georgia. Ralph was an Abramoff bud. Their story died with the double murder/suicide, but take a look at their clients. http://www.strategumusa.com/ Then a plane crashed February and killed six prominent Republicans, businessmen in Georgia, friends of Governor Perdue and Speaker of the State House. Now one of the victim's employer is being sued in Mississippi, the firm said to be a heavy contributor of the Governor.

http://www.ajc.com/searc...8/03/15/lawsuit0315.html

http://www.paulding.com/...n/index.php/t147857.html

http://www.mdjonline.com...tion/21/item/107978.html The Republican Party is losing a lot of people and it isn't because they're swapping parties.

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 4/9/2008 @ 3:27 pm PT...





I wish more folks would come forward. A supreme court justice has done so in Missippi, and as we fully expected, the Siegelman case is not rare:

What emerges during our interview are allegations of even more aggressive prosecutorial tactics and intimidation than has previously been reported. The allegations seem to fit the pattern of prosecution in Alabama, where another Bush-appointed US Attorney successfully prosecuted a popular democratic governor for bribery. As in Alabama, Diaz was indicted a second time after the first set of charges failed to hold up in court. Diaz was ultimately acquitted and still retains his state Supreme Court seat.

... “After I was indicted and before my trial, my home was also broken into,” Diaz tells RAW STORY. “Our door was kicked in and our documents were rummaged. Televisions, computers and other valuables were not taken, despite the fact that we were out of town for several days and the home was left open by the burglars. We could not figure out a motive for the burglary and reported it to the Biloxi Police Department. The crime was never solved.” (Raw Story, emphasis added). Wow, sounds like something from the Clint Curtis files.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... dras said on 4/10/2008 @ 12:39 pm PT...

