TNT’s top NBA analysts held an All-Star conference call Thursday morning, and one of the most extended debates was about the maturation process of Warriors point guard Stephen Curry. Charles Barkley granted Curry the All-Star tag, but said the fifth-year player has a way to go to become a true superstar.

Here’s how the conversation played out:

Kenny Smith: “From a former point guard’s perspective, I think (Curry) gets into the lane a lot more this season. Even if he primarily scores most of his points from the free-throw line and out, he’s still gets into the paint more to pass and penetrate – which I don’t think he did as much last season. I think that’s probably the maturation of his game that I’ve seen this year.”

Charles Barkley: “He deserved to make it last year, and I’m glad he made it this year. They have a good, solid team. The maturation of Steph’s game is going to come when he learns to make the players around him better. He does have assists, but not the right kind. There are a lot of very good players in the NBA, but to go from a very good player to an All-Star to a superstar, you have to start making the players around you better. That’s the next maturation process for Steph Curry. He’s a very good player. He’s an All-Star. Now, he has to learn to make the players around him better. You’ll know it when you see it. We’re not seeing it. Kenny knows I’m right. He’ll know it when he sees it. I can’t explain it.”

Kenny Smith: “Sometimes ball movement shifts the defense, and sometimes you’re just doing that to shift the defense. A lot of times, you’re making the team better by just moving the ball and shifting the defense. A lot of times, you’re just giving the ball to a guy to score or to make a play. All of his passes are ‘Here it is to score.’ But when you make your team better, you make passes that aren’t just to score. That could shift the defense, create different scenarios, understanding when guys get better and by getting hockey assists. That’s the next step toward superstardom.”

Shaquille O’Neal: “We see a lot of good players, great players who don’t make the All-Star team. This year he came in with a little bit – I don’t want to use the word edge – but a little attitude, saying ‘OK, I didn’t make the All-Star team last year. Watch what happens this year.’ I agree with what the guys are saying. You know what kind of passes make guys better and what kind of passes are made to jump shooters. He’ll get better. He’s an unselfish player.”