Waxangel Profile Blog Joined September 2002 United States 29148 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-04 20:14:19 #1 suggested that he would forfeit his participation in the WCS America Ro16 due to discrepancies in travel support given to players from different countries. Due to a miscommunication with an ESL admin, MajOr believed that he would be receiving $500 in travel support instead of the $1000 given to players from Korea, China, etc.



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On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote:

Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked.



Sorry for the confusion



Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked.Sorry for the confusion



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hey. idk what you ppl saying but mexico to los angeles flight cost around 600-650 and its supposed to be covered as they said that all transportation would be covered for NA players. but than they told me only 500$ so im not paying 150 + possible 200 of taxis from airport. especially when i hear that kr players get 1k covered. when they said korean players wouldnt get their shit covered.



MajOr declared on Twitter that he refused to pay any of his travel fees out of pocket.



MajOr commented on TeamLiquid.net regarding his communications with Blizzard and the costs involved in traveling to WCS America from his location.

On June 05 2014 03:47 MajOr wrote:

First of all, i messaged everyone i know from blizzard before making tweet either a)didnt reply me back or b) didnt gave me a real response or give me stuff liek this [03/06/2014 09:01:15 p.m.] Daniel 'pHaRSiDE' Brooks: mexico is considered central america..

[03/06/2014 09:01:19 p.m.] major: rofl

[03/06/2014 09:02:05 p.m.] Daniel 'pHaRSiDE' Brooks: or not..

[03/06/2014 09:02:08 p.m.] Daniel 'pHaRSiDE' Brooks: doesn't matter to me

[03/06/2014 09:02:51 p.m.] Daniel 'pHaRSiDE' Brooks: I'm not doing the flights, so if is only $500 like I'm pretty sure it is, I guess I wish you the best of luck.



than dont give me the contact of whoever is doing the flights?



a flight from my city to lax can cost up to 700$ normally is 600-650 tho, than 100 usd per way of taxi thats another 200$ that could be almost 400$. im not rich, i dont have a team - yes koreans flights cost more but when u been doing wcs for 6 seasons and 5 of them you paid all cost for NA players than change it for this season. is not fair. especially when they said they wouldnt support KR players with travel fees when they first created WCS america, since when i was in korea i asked would u guys cover anything from my travel if i qualify for wcs am season 1? and they gave me a no. only players from NA get covered.



In the 2013 season of WCS America, Blizzard paid for all travel fees inside North America, but none for players outside the continent.



In 2014, Blizzard changed their policy to give more support to players outside of North America, giving a $1000 travel stipend to non-North American players while giving $500 to players inside the continent.* This coincided with the "soft" region-lock that was implemented in the region, which limited the number of non-North American players who could advance from the qualifiers.



According to the replacing him in the Ro16 as the next highest placing player from their Ro32 group.



*Blizzard paid for all travel fees in 2014's WCS America Season 1, when NASL's abrupt closure forced the tournament to be held in ESL's studio in Germany. MajOr may forfeit his participation in the WCS America Ro16.In a comment on Reddit , MajOr stated his dissatisfaction with the $500 of travel support give to North American players by Blizzard. In particular, MajOr took issue with the fact that Korean players receive $1000 in travel support. According to MajOr, he had informed Blizzard of his complaints privately before going public.MajOr declared on Twitter that he refused to pay any of his travel fees out of pocket.MajOr commented on TeamLiquid.net regarding his communications with Blizzard and the costs involved in traveling to WCS America from his location.In the 2013 season of WCS America, Blizzard paid fortravel fees inside North America, but none for players outside the continent.In 2014, Blizzard changed their policy to give more support to players outside of North America, giving a $1000 travel stipend to non-North American players while giving $500 to players inside the continent.* This coincided with the "soft" region-lock that was implemented in the region, which limited the number of non-North American players who could advance from the qualifiers.According to the WCS rulebook , a forfeit from MajOr would result in ZOO.Courage replacing him in the Ro16 as the next highest placing player from their Ro32 group. Previously, MajOr suggested that he would forfeit his participation in the WCS America Ro16 due to discrepancies in travel support given to players from different countries. Due to a miscommunication with an ESL admin, MajOr believed that he would be receiving $500 in travel support instead of the $1000 given to players from Korea, China, etc.However, ESL has clarified that players from Latin America also receive $1000 in travel support.Despite the clarification, this thread is still highly entertaining and should be perused with adblock off. Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

Hydro033 Profile Joined July 2012 United States 128 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-04 16:35:05 #2 Juan being Juan, but it'd be nice if Blizzard would stop shitting on the NA scene. #Wet4Ret

farvacola Profile Blog Joined January 2011 United States 17320 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-04 16:37:57 #3 Considering the way MajOr conducts himself, I don't see this as any big loss. He ought to have learned by now that being pleasant and, at the very least, not a self-entitled child is a better way to get what one wants. "when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"

Liman Profile Joined July 2012 Serbia 680 Posts #4 I hope he realizes ticket from Korea to LA cost at least 1000 bucks so... Freelancer veteran

marcesr Profile Joined June 2008 Germany 1374 Posts #5 Blizzard should stop giving 1k to Koreans immediately. Why would you subsidize players ruining your own tournament?

ThorPool Profile Joined February 2014 Panama 145 Posts #6 He is loosing such an awesome opportunity... I hope he forfeits,so that Courage has a chance.I really like his style. RuFF! Let the cheese rain !

Blargh Profile Joined September 2010 United States 1879 Posts #7 On June 05 2014 01:37 farvacola wrote:

Considering the way MajOr conducts himself, I don't see this as any big loss. He ought to have learned by now that being pleasant and, at the very least, not a self-entitled child is a better way to get what one wants.

Someone needs to replace Naniwa ^_^!



This thread seems overly dramatic though. Currently, it sounds like Major is just being Major on the internet. I'm quite confident he will not forfeit his participation, as it would not be hard to get those costs covered one way or another. It'd also hurt his image quite a bit if he did it over a couple hundred dollars. I'm pretty sure every NA BW player out there was paying for more expensive plane tickets to travel to small dinky LAN tournaments that didn't even have total prizepools as high as his guaranteed earnings ($2,000).



Someone needs to replace Naniwa ^_^!This thread seems overly dramatic though. Currently, it sounds like Major is just being Major on the internet. I'm quite confident he will not forfeit his participation, as it would not be hard to get those costs covered one way or another. It'd also hurt his image quite a bit if he did it over a couple hundred dollars. I'm pretty sure every NA BW player out there was paying for more expensive plane tickets to travel to small dinky LAN tournaments that didn't even have total prizepools as high as his guaranteed earnings ($2,000).

AWalker9 Profile Blog Joined August 2013 United Kingdom 7227 Posts #8 TB mentioned about Blizzard speaking to team owners and mentioned of travel subsidies. So it makes sense. There is no way Pigbaby would be able to get there otherwise, it's very unlikely Jin Air (because who knows if he's still on the team, I guess the RO16 will make this apparent) would of paid for his trip. soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way

Dingodile Profile Joined December 2011 4035 Posts #9 On June 05 2014 01:38 marcesr wrote:

Blizzard should stop giving 1k to Koreans immediately. Why would you subsidize players ruining your own tournament?

Nothing to do with Koreans. You can be a Chinese or Spainish boy. Everyone outside NA gets 1k.

Nothing to do with Koreans. You can be a Chinese or Spainish boy. Everyone outside NA gets 1k. Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky

ETisME Profile Blog Joined April 2011 Hong Kong 11898 Posts #10 Gogo courage! 其疾如风，其徐如林，侵掠如火，不动如山，难知如阴，动如雷震。

jakethesnake Profile Blog Joined May 2011 Canada 4947 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-04 16:49:35 #11 Does that mean that he doesn't get the extra $1K in prize money for making it to the round of 16 then too ($3K for 9-16th vs $2K for 17-24th)? Seems like a bad financial decision if that is the case. This seems very over dramatic and petty. I realize it is frustrating to have to pay anything, but you are still better off by competing than by quitting. Community News jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg

Waxangel Profile Blog Joined September 2002 United States 29148 Posts #12 It's not too late to move to guatemala Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

Tossim111 Profile Joined October 2009 United States 243 Posts #13 It shouldn't matter if it costs more from korea to usa... isn't it WCS AMERICA?

shell Profile Joined October 2010 Portugal 2714 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-04 16:53:10 #14



I hope they shit all over him and replace him with another player, that would make me really happy!



He entered the tournament knowing the rules.. i hope they don't change it for him!



They pay him to get there, even if he looses he will get the prize money that totally covers his expenses and he still complains?



He should practice more and STFU



User was warned for this post I really dislike major.. he thinks so highly of himself!I hope they shit all over him and replace him with another player, that would make me really happy!He entered the tournament knowing the rules.. i hope they don't change it for him!They pay him to get there, even if he looses he will get the prize money that totally covers his expenses and he still complains?He should practice more and STFU BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3

eScaper-tsunami Profile Blog Joined July 2009 Canada 310 Posts #15 WTF is Blizzard trying to pull now. The fact that they aren't willing to cover travel costs in it's entirety is just pathetic. It goes against the spirit of the tournament. They implemented a bunch of systems ie, region lock to help the scene grow, but they are gonna stop full support of the players so that players are forced to make decision to no-show in ro.16 or pay out of their pocket essentially gambling money away? RuhRoh is my herO

Ctone23 Profile Blog Joined December 2012 United States 1819 Posts #16 Well I guess that's one way to ask Blizzard to cover the extra xD Gauntlet Esports

sharkie Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Austria 16538 Posts #17 Sorry, but this just sucks by blizzard...

you cant just say all NA players get 500 and all non NA get 1k - thats unprofessional



I am sure there are places in NA where it costs more than 500 to go to LA...

digmouse Profile Blog Joined November 2010 China 5661 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:02:10 #18 On June 05 2014 01:55 sharkie wrote:

Sorry, but this just sucks by blizzard...

you cant just say all NA players get 500 and all non NA get 1k - thats unprofessional



I am sure there are places in NA where it costs more than 500 to go to LA...

God damn it paying more for ppl flying from the other globe is "unprofessional"? There is a common sense called "estimated cost" when running business and doing cost plans. Paying 1000$ for Korea and China is not enough and 500$ for Mexico is more than enough. In the end Koreans and Chinese end up paying more out of their/their team's own.



http://www.orbitz.com/flights/from-Mexico_City-to-Los_Angeles.o30682.d4309/

http://flights.expedia.com/flights-from-mexico-city-to-los-angeles-mex-to-lax/

Just see those numbers yourselves jesus. God damn it paying more for ppl flying from the other globe is "unprofessional"? There is a common sense called "estimated cost" when running business and doing cost plans. Paying 1000$ for Korea and China is not enough and 500$ for Mexico is more than enough. In the end Koreans and Chinese end up paying more out of their/their team's own.Just see those numbers yourselves jesus. Translator If you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.

Squat Profile Joined September 2013 Sweden 7821 Posts #19 He's probably just blowing a load of hot air for the sake of it, not quite thinking it through. Wouldn't be the first time. Major's people skills are roughly comparable to Genghis Khan's. "Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump

digmouse Profile Blog Joined November 2010 China 5661 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:04:34 #20 If you think what you get is not enough, contact them and show them proof that it's way beyond your reach, Blizzard is not stupid to stir trouble in there premier tournament. Translator If you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.

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