Yung Dramps said: So PU just had to ban 2 huge threats back-to-back, and even then the tier is in a bad spot. Why? Because for some reason we insist on sticking to the antiquated, shitty system of usage-based rises.



Please explain to me why they are needed again and what they add? Oh yeah, right, they add literally nothing but frustration and make flavors of the month in upper tiers able to majorly effect and fuck up lower tiers. Click to expand...

All of your criticism regarding tier shifts is based on your opinion of the PU tier. I get that you really like it but you just keep coming back with the same arguments again and again after every PU suspect test. I don't want to insult your favourite tier in any way, but have you considered the fact that the problem isn't tier shifts itselfIn comparison to Gen 6 PU, the Gen 7 PU metagame is so much stronger than it was last Gen. Power creep generelly affects offensive pokemon more than defensive ones, so a lot of pokemon drop(ped) from RU to PU while the defensive pokemon mostly stayed the same. There is a big jump between having a tier with half of the Mons being NFE and having former Gen RU/NU pokemon. But the power creep really can't be avoided at all.Maybe I misjudge the situation, but having Ferro, Gastro and Miltank back wouldn't make the tier that much more healthy than it is right now, if you mostly rely on one or two specific pokemon to keep a tier intact and healthy, you have a problem in general.To me, it looks like you are against tier rises because you aren't willed to adapt to changing natures of a meta game. Drastic changes happen in every tier from time to time. You said that fighting games center around about 30 characters, but every smogon tier has around 50 pokemon to be ranked within it. I feel like using a big amount of different pokemon within a tier is better than sticking to the same s*** over and over again. I really liked using Washtom in UU and I was quite sad when it rose because this thing allowed me to reach my ladder peak. I surely wouldn't have thought about something like this though: "tier rises are stupid, Rotom is much more important to UU than it is to OU. It's just a flavor of the month thing!" In most of the cases, there are multiple ways in dealing with a pokemon. If you only rely on Gastro to beat Pyroar, or Miltank to defeat Magmortar,If a pokemon forces you to use the same 1-2 to be able to deal with it, it deserves to be banned.