I like this sort of discussion , its rarely seen on other Crypto : as Regards making changes to the core structure in using directed market policy as incentive to encourage the market in a certain direction , i think this is better done from a peripheral that is to say outside the core structure. I will give an example: Economically speaking spending and the opposite hording are really factors of the greater sociological market, lets think about this practically: i would say 80 to 90% of people in Crypto currency still think in fiat terms , and of course it will be that way , we know we can get that piece of paper and go to the shop or a merchant and they give us generally agreed amounts of "things" for the paper. spending and hording is based on these strong sociological factors. now we need to move the market forward in time imagine a time where there is no pieces of paper (extreme deflation) or too much (inflation) then at that time i can guarantee you that that % of people that think in fiat will dramatically start to value Crypto in different ways, spending will become a factor of the market. hording will cease to be the main meaningful factor. so what can we take from that? any investment that is long term in Crypto is a bet that Fiat is going to return to its centralized market value, traders will try to get in and out of the market to gain more pieces of paper but if they hold paper they are betting the opposite. Summary: I think incentives can be outside the core structure, for example Fiat money only gains interest in a bank to offset the fact that the Bank needs the deposit to justify a reserve ratio to create new fraud. the money itself is just a vehicle. I do think lots can be done on the peripheral i.e yes investment with good returns for investors , normal market capitalism I agree with this 100%, in fact only by including more people to see benefits can we accelerate the growth and network aspect, so this is important. these could include helping start mico businesses , casinos if thats what people like, exchanges , and payments systems and much more, even native development. i'm always open to new opinion .

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LegendaryActivity: 2100Merit: 1167MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Fast Distribution | Stability - March 17, 2014, 07:41:10 PM #5409 Quote from: digitalindustry on March 17, 2014, 04:16:13 PM I like this sort of discussion , its rarely seen on other Crypto :





as Regards making changes to the core structure in using directed market policy as incentive to encourage the market in a certain direction , i think this is better done from a peripheral that is to say outside the core structure.



I will give an example:



Economically speaking spending and the opposite hording are really factors of the greater sociological market, lets think about this practically:



i would say 80 to 90% of people in Crypto currency still think in fiat terms , and of course it will be that way , we know we can get that piece of paper and go to the shop or a merchant and they give us generally agreed amounts of "things" for the paper.



spending and hording is based on these strong sociological factors.



now we need to move the market forward in time imagine a time where there is no pieces of paper (extreme deflation) or too much (inflation) then at that time i can guarantee you that that % of people that think in fiat will dramatically start to value Crypto in different ways, spending will become a factor of the market. hording will cease to be the main meaningful factor.



so what can we take from that?



any investment that is long term in Crypto is a bet that Fiat is going to return to its centralized market value, traders will try to get in and out of the market to gain more pieces of paper but if they hold paper they are betting the opposite.



Summary:



I think incentives can be outside the core structure, for example Fiat money only gains interest in a bank to offset the fact that the Bank needs the deposit to justify a reserve ratio to create new fraud.



the money itself is just a vehicle.



I do think lots can be done on the peripheral i.e yes investment with good returns for investors , normal market capitalism I agree with this 100%, in fact only by including more people to see benefits can we accelerate the growth and network aspect, so this is important.



these could include helping start mico businesses , casinos if thats what people like, exchanges , and payments systems and much more, even native development.



i'm always open to new opinion .





Exactly.... i think leave max to the tech side and core development like you say. Too many people expect the dev to also somehow create services. That is totally unrealistic.



A very high level polished poker room with good rake back but something really pro and some good promotions.... could be a gold mine. An exchange another gold mine, lots of possibilities . However we do need to make qrk holders aware of these investments. A lot of qrk holders are from outside of the crypto community. We will need to reach those people to give them fair opportunity to invest.



I have no problem at all with the person organising and taking the lead with having a percentage for their effort and hard work. Nobody can work for nothing. This is one of the biggest mistakes i see in all crypto communities, they all want things done, but nobody likes to pay. Therefore you get stagnation and it costs them 100x more than a small % for someone to take the lead and organise some services.



I know it's easy to suggest things when you are techno ignorant and have no clue how the things you're suggesting could be implemented. However really it would be nice to see the qrk wallet become a place where you can keep up to date or get alerts on things that are important in the qrk community. New investment opportunities and new projects being started. The more people that have a stake in projects the more interest you build and more momentum and community spirit.



DI i think should be the new marketing leader, ie the centre of projects for qrk. Only if he wants to and has the time. Of course anyone can always start projects themselves nobody needs permission... i just mean we need a central hub for the marketing and new services and projects. Let's get started with something.... no time like the present. Everyone can add ideas etc. If you have an amazing idea then best to PM DI (if he wants to be the projects leader) and discuss the finer details there since can't have every other community just stealing qrks plans I personally have no issue with DI or whoever wants to be new projects manager having a certain % of the project cost for doing all the organising and work. I can't speak for anyone else but this makes perfect sense to me.



Get a plan, work out the budget, show people personal roi and let's get rolling.







Exactly.... i think leave max to the tech side and core development like you say. Too many people expect the dev to also somehow create services. That is totally unrealistic.A very high level polished poker room with good rake back but something really pro and some good promotions.... could be a gold mine. An exchange another gold mine, lots of possibilities . However we do need to make qrk holders aware of these investments. A lot of qrk holders are from outside of the crypto community. We will need to reach those people to give them fair opportunity to invest.I have no problem at all with the person organising and taking the lead with having a percentage for their effort and hard work. Nobody can work for nothing. This is one of the biggest mistakes i see in all crypto communities, they all want things done, but nobody likes to pay. Therefore you get stagnation and it costs them 100x more than a small % for someone to take the lead and organise some services.I know it's easy to suggest things when you are techno ignorant and have no clue how the things you're suggesting could be implemented. However really it would be nice to see the qrk wallet become a place where you can keep up to date or get alerts on things that are important in the qrk community. New investment opportunities and new projects being started. The more people that have a stake in projects the more interest you build and more momentum and community spirit.DI i think should be the new marketing leader, ie the centre of projects for qrk. Only if he wants to and has the time. Of course anyone can always start projects themselves nobody needs permission... i just mean we need a central hub for the marketing and new services and projects. Let's get started with something.... no time like the present. Everyone can add ideas etc. If you have an amazing idea then best to PM DI (if he wants to be the projects leader) and discuss the finer details there since can't have every other community just stealing qrks plansI personally have no issue with DI or whoever wants to be new projects manager having a certain % of the project cost for doing all the organising and work. I can't speak for anyone else but this makes perfect sense to me.Get a plan, work out the budget, show people personal roi and let's get rolling.

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