Seeker Profile Blog Joined April 2005 Where dat snitch at? 33624 Posts #1 T/N: Here's a compilation of all the progamers' responses to what they think about LotV so far from SSL qualifier winner interviews.



INnoVation



Only two have Terrans made it through so far.



TvZ is doable but we can't really win TvP. I think Terrans can't make it through because of TvP. As a whole, I don't think Terran is a good race in SC2.



What do you think needs to be done in order for Terrans to become stronger?



I think we need an adept nerf. There are so many scenarios where we can't block even though we know it's coming. Either that or make cyclones stronger. Please revive Terran somehow.



aLive



Which race do you want to avoid in the Ro16?



I want to avoid Protoss if possible. Based on the current balance, I feel like I would want to face a Zerg. If possible, I'm hoping Protoss players won't come near me (laughs).



Patience



Do you have a favorite unit?



I really like the adept. I can win almost all my games if I utilize adepts in PvT so I can see why Terrans feel that adepts are OP. If Blizzard does end up nerfing the adept, then I hope they only do a small one since PvT mid-game will become stronger for Terrans otherwise. Because the thing is, a lot of nerfs will cause problems for PvT, but it will also make things really difficult for PvZ.



Trust



Do you dislike PvZ?



I don't think this matchup is really balanced. I really dislike PvZ. I dislike it so much that I just sigh while being unable to even properly explain why.



Stats



How do you feel about the racial balance for LotV?



I feel that the balance right now is headed towards the SC:BW path. It's difficult for Terran to win against Protoss and it's difficult for Protoss to win against Zerg. From a Protoss' perspective, ravages are OP and lurkers are OP. Of course, for PvT, adepts are OP as well (laughs). Personally, I feel that a patch needs to occur. But then again, believing in the players and leaving things alone is also another way to go.



Who do you want to avoid for the Ro16?



Rather than say there's a player I want to avoid, I'd rather just avoid a certain race. LotV is so similar to SC:BW balance-wise that I think it will be difficult to face a Zerg. If possible, I would hope to face a Terran. Maru is 50/50 (laughs).



Solar



How do you feel about Zerg for LotV?



Zerg is too weak. So many people have been saying that Zerg is strong so people are thinking this. But if you look at ladder, there's only one Zerg in the top ten. Protoss and Terran are both experimenting a lot so it's become difficult for Zergs. I'm actually frustrated about this notion that Zerg is really strong. Personally, I have difficulties when facing Terran and I feel that the balance is going down the SC:BW way.









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TvZ is doable but we can't really win TvP. I think Terrans can't make it through because of TvP. As a whole, I don't think Terran is a good race in SC2.I think we need an adept nerf. There are so many scenarios where we can't block even though we know it's coming. Either that or make cyclones stronger. Please revive Terran somehow.I want to avoid Protoss if possible. Based on the current balance, I feel like I would want to face a Zerg. If possible, I'm hoping Protoss players won't come near me (laughs).I really like the adept. I can win almost all my games if I utilize adepts in PvT so I can see why Terrans feel that adepts are OP. If Blizzard does end up nerfing the adept, then I hope they only do a small one since PvT mid-game will become stronger for Terrans otherwise. Because the thing is, a lot of nerfs will cause problems for PvT, but it will also make things really difficult for PvZ.I don't think this matchup is really balanced. I really dislike PvZ. I dislike it so much that I just sigh while being unable to even properly explain why.I feel that the balance right now is headed towards the SC:BW path. It's difficult for Terran to win against Protoss and it's difficult for Protoss to win against Zerg. From a Protoss' perspective, ravages are OP and lurkers are OP. Of course, for PvT, adepts are OP as well (laughs). Personally, I feel that a patch needs to occur. But then again, believing in the players and leaving things alone is also another way to go.Rather than say there's a player I want to avoid, I'd rather just avoid a certain race. LotV is so similar to SC:BW balance-wise that I think it will be difficult to face a Zerg. If possible, I would hope to face a Terran. Maru is 50/50 (laughs).Zerg is too weak. So many people have been saying that Zerg is strong so people are thinking this. But if you look at ladder, there's only one Zerg in the top ten. Protoss and Terran are both experimenting a lot so it's become difficult for Zergs. I'm actually frustrated about this notion that Zerg is really strong. Personally, I have difficulties when facing Terran and I feel that the balance is going down the SC:BW way.BONUS! Moderator PM me if you want translations done | twitch.tv/dankshrine Weekly SC2 Podcast!

Aquila- Profile Blog Joined April 2011 515 Posts #2 Send this to Blizzard please

imre Profile Blog Joined November 2011 France 9126 Posts #3 Funny that the community feedback doesn't even mention adepts while here even the P are admitting they're broken. Zest fanboy.

vult Profile Blog Joined February 2012 United States 9279 Posts #4 Terrans: Terran is too weak.

Protosses: Protoss can't win vs. Zerg.

Zergs: Zerg too weak.



Gotta love progamers. :D "I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically." -iNcontroL, impersonating TLO flirting with Apollo, ASUS ROG 2012. RIP Geoff. || Pats and Jags

sh0ck Profile Joined December 2015 United States 52 Posts #5 LOL at "zerg is too weak" ...and from Solar no less Farewell, Three Musketeers - Flash, Rain, FanTaSy

The_Red_Viper Profile Blog Joined August 2013 18785 Posts #6 I think it is interesting that they say the game is 'going down a bw path'

T>Z>P>T confirmed?

Not entirely sure this is the case tbh, but maybe the meta in korea really is like that in general BLΛƆKPIИK in your area | IU | SoHyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |

Timelog Profile Joined May 2015 Netherlands 57 Posts #7 So basically balance right now is headed towards the SC:BW path is good right? I mean, I have had to hear that it should go that way for 5 years, so... It's good right? /sarcasm



But really, It's interesting to see that each race's player has a different opinion about how the balance is at the moment, would have liked to see more opinions though. is good right? I mean, I have had to hear that it should go that way for 5 years, so... It's good right? /sarcasmBut really, It's interesting to see that each race's player has a different opinion about how the balance is at the moment, would have liked to see more opinions though. Terrible Starcraft 2 player, SC2 EU Battle.Net MVP and overall gaming enthousiast.

imre Profile Blog Joined November 2011 France 9126 Posts #8 On December 19 2015 09:44 sh0ck wrote:

LOL at "zerg is too weak" ...and from Solar no less



I think LotV Z is rather easy than strong. Like with roach/ravager you don't need to have stellar control or be a tactical genius to make it work but the potential is quite limited, contrary to adepts (in harassement) and tankivacs for exemple. I think LotV Z is rather easy than strong. Like with roach/ravager you don't need to have stellar control or be a tactical genius to make it work but the potential is quite limited, contrary to adepts (in harassement) and tankivacs for exemple. Zest fanboy.

Spleydi Profile Joined February 2014 Switzerland 20 Posts Last Edited: 2015-12-19 01:37:57 #9 On December 19 2015 09:53 sAsImre wrote:

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On December 19 2015 09:44 sh0ck wrote:

LOL at "zerg is too weak" ...and from Solar no less



I think LotV Z is rather easy than strong. Like with roach/ravager you don't need to have stellar control or be a tactical genius to make it work but the potential is quite limited, contrary to adepts (in harassement) and tankivacs for exemple. I think LotV Z is rather easy than strong. Like with roach/ravager you don't need to have stellar control or be a tactical genius to make it work but the potential is quite limited, contrary to adepts (in harassement) and tankivacs for exemple.



That's not true you need to have a quite good drop defence against good players and you also need to have a decent army control because of tanks and liberators. And the more bases you get the harded it gets to defend them. Ling /Bane/Muta in HotS was way easier to play than Roach/Ravager/Infestor nowdays.

That's not true you need to have a quite good drop defence against good players and you also need to have a decent army control because of tanks and liberators. And the more bases you get the harded it gets to defend them. Ling /Bane/Muta in HotS was way easier to play than Roach/Ravager/Infestor nowdays.

Berry_CruncH Profile Joined April 2015 5 Posts Last Edited: 2015-12-19 01:30:59 #10 On December 19 2015 09:44 vult wrote:

Terrans: Terran is too weak.

Protosses: Protoss can't win vs. Zerg.

Zergs: Zerg too weak.



Gotta love progamers. :D





Well considering Terran's performance against both races. Along with Protoss' performance vs Zerg. And the fact that Solar is complaining while having won two tournaments in LOTV already... It's pretty safe to assume that the general consensus is that Zerg is strong, Terran is weak and that Zerg players are scared of the incoming nerfs. Well considering Terran's performance against both races. Along with Protoss' performance vs Zerg. And the fact that Solar is complaining while having won two tournaments in LOTV already... It's pretty safe to assume that the general consensus is that Zerg is strong, Terran is weak and that Zerg players are scared of the incoming nerfs.

xtorn Profile Blog Joined December 2013 4048 Posts Last Edited: 2015-12-19 01:36:59 #11



On December 19 2015 09:39 Aquila- wrote:

Send this to Blizzard please Send this to Blizzard please

pretty sure Blizzard keeps direct contact with the progamers already thank you for this!!!!!pretty sure Blizzard keeps direct contact with the progamers already Life - forever the Legend in my heart

Obamarauder Profile Joined June 2015 285 Posts #12 zerg is weak boyz

Jakamakala Profile Joined July 2011 United States 115 Posts #13 On December 19 2015 10:30 Berry_CruncH wrote:

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On December 19 2015 09:44 vult wrote:

Terrans: Terran is too weak.

Protosses: Protoss can't win vs. Zerg.

Zergs: Zerg too weak.



Gotta love progamers. :D





Well considering Terran's performance against both races. Along with Protoss' performance vs Zerg. And the fact that Solar is complaining while having won two tournaments in LOTV already... It's pretty safe to assume that the general consensus is that Zerg is strong, Terran is weak and that Zerg players are scared of the incoming nerfs. Well considering Terran's performance against both races. Along with Protoss' performance vs Zerg. And the fact that Solar is complaining while having won two tournaments in LOTV already... It's pretty safe to assume that the general consensus is that Zerg is strong, Terran is weak and that Zerg players are scared of the incoming nerfs.



He won two tournaments? What's there to complain about the micro requirement differences for Terran and Zerg are pretty transparent. He won two tournaments? What's there to complain about the micro requirement differences for Terran and Zerg are pretty transparent.

Xaeldaren Profile Joined June 2010 Ireland 587 Posts #14 Seeker, will you be translating herO's interview?

necrosexy Profile Joined March 2011 432 Posts #15 solar referencing the ladder as evidence lol

TelecoM Profile Blog Joined January 2010 United States 10268 Posts #16 Going down the SC BW Path sounds good to me. AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting

Seeker Profile Blog Joined April 2005 Where dat snitch at? 33624 Posts #17 On December 19 2015 10:46 Xaeldaren wrote:

Seeker, will you be translating herO's interview?

I could if you'd like me to. But he really didn't say anything noteworthy. I could if you'd like me to. But he really didn't say anything noteworthy. Moderator PM me if you want translations done | twitch.tv/dankshrine Weekly SC2 Podcast!

Poopi Profile Blog Joined November 2010 France 9763 Posts #18 Not only the ladder, but only the top 10...

As I expected terrans struggled more vs Protoss, being murdered by them in GSL Pre-Season.

TvZ doable because you can kill them in early/mid on most maps and turtle + multidrop on other maps?



And yeah the Zerg has it easier with roach ravager on seras ruins cross pos for example, tankivac saves the day tho. In Starcraft 2, money is gained through consistency accross all patches, legacy is built through snowballing the good patches for tournament wins.

BLinD-RawR Profile Blog Joined April 2010 ALLEYCAT BLUES 45576 Posts #19 On December 19 2015 10:50 GGzerG wrote:

Going down the SC BW Path sounds good to me.



pretty sure he means in regard to T>Z>P>T dynamic thats going on right now. pretty sure he means in regard to T>Z>P>T dynamic thats going on right now. Moderator Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR

Spleydi Profile Joined February 2014 Switzerland 20 Posts #20 On December 19 2015 10:30 Berry_CruncH wrote:

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On December 19 2015 09:44 vult wrote:

Terrans: Terran is too weak.

Protosses: Protoss can't win vs. Zerg.

Zergs: Zerg too weak.



Gotta love progamers. :D





Well considering Terran's performance against both races. Along with Protoss' performance vs Zerg. And the fact that Solar is complaining while having won two tournaments in LOTV already... It's pretty safe to assume that the general consensus is that Zerg is strong, Terran is weak and that Zerg players are scared of the incoming nerfs. Well considering Terran's performance against both races. Along with Protoss' performance vs Zerg. And the fact that Solar is complaining while having won two tournaments in LOTV already... It's pretty safe to assume that the general consensus is that Zerg is strong, Terran is weak and that Zerg players are scared of the incoming nerfs.



Solar won one big tournament and he didn't really won it as much as Parting threw it. So it's a pretty misleading thing to say. The only thing safe to assume is that T is pretty weak vs P and nothing more. Terrans did whine about ultras as if you can't beat them but now many starting to learn how to play with ghosts and starting to do quite well against that.

It's like the medivacboost at the start of HotS. Protoss did whine that it's way to strong and what happen than? Oh they learned how to fucking play against it.

Solar won one big tournament and he didn't really won it as much as Parting threw it. So it's a pretty misleading thing to say. The only thing safe to assume is that T is pretty weak vs P and nothing more. Terrans did whine about ultras as if you can't beat them but now many starting to learn how to play with ghosts and starting to do quite well against that.It's like the medivacboost at the start of HotS. Protoss did whine that it's way to strong and what happen than? Oh they learned how to fucking play against it.

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