CHADBOGA said: And yet there are still some people on here insisting that there is something wrong with anyone who would buy an Intel system right now. Click to expand...

I got my asus b350m up and running 3 hrs before launch and in the Ryzen builders thread straight out said the software was crap, buggy, hang in bios update and was generally unfinished and the bios was extremely beta and buggy - before the reviews hit. So i would say people got it straight.Now all those problems will be fixed within a few months and some will get a small boost from better memory performance due to new bios. But zen will still have a very high latency. And Surely windows scheduler will also be fixed. In the simples form of fix we pretty much know the results and they vary from 0 to 20% improvement in games. Still Intel will have far the faster gaming solution due to latency advantage. No doubt.What can then happen is if ms gives us a sceduler that is directly programmed for the 2xccx in zen and not only a 2 processor simple fix taken from windows 7. I think its safe to say they will do so to remain a competitive os vs eg Linux.What is more unsecure is to what degree the game developers will adapt and program for zen. If amd want to get close to Intel that needs to be done. If. Then in those games the difference will imo be marginal and the more core advantage for zen could tilt even for gamers looking with a shorter 3 years horizon.Its also vital for zen plus that it happens because with a fix of latency and a small other places it looks to be more or less the same stuff like an Intel processor for gaming. But it demands windows fix and game dev adopting.Btw hopefully 1700 non x will fall to 280usd during fall and the cheapest 350 boards to 70usd. As it is 330 plus 90 is imo straight out enthusiast and prevent a lot of people upgrading.There is a motherboard shortage for now so people might as well wait a month and see how things pan out.