springs113 Last I check Vega was pitted against the 1080 from AMDs slides, so unless you have internal knowledge...Vega did quite well. Sorry if it didn't fit your expectations.

eidairaman1 For lower power/budget it seems ok aka the new APUs, but the likes of 56/64, it strains and struggles.

It went up against gtx1080 because thats the best it can do right now. But what i was saying is that it has potential for much more except that AMD isnt dominant enough at this point to push their own technology and features to developers. To put things in perspective for you; Vega 64 has the same die size as a gtx1080 ti, and when run at the same power level as a 1080ti its actually a bit slower than a 1080.Yes because the way amd design their gpus isnt like nvidia. nvidia build their architecture with a preset configuration that gets scaled from top to buttom. Amd on the other hand uses a lego like approach so u end up with different chips from the same generation having varying efficiency due to their different configurations and ratio of compute units that make up the overall package. In general GCN/vega is way more general purpose than pascal, which also could be said is overengineered, so just like amd did with ryzen, they need to streamline their gpu architecture into a simple solid design. Over-engineering almost always ends up giving u some extra features or perks at the price of the main function of the product/design