Chuka Umunna is one of the leading members of the new Independent Group - one of now 11 MPs to leave the traditional parties to forge what they call a new centre ground in politics. He talks to Krishnan about what motivated him to take the leap, what an alternative to left/right politics might look like and why Britain should stay in the EU.

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Recorded: 19 February 2019.

Producer: Sarah Gough.