Not even the coronavirus pandemic can keep the 76ers Ben Simmons from embroiling himself in a controversy that involves the Utah Jazz.

It’s been just over a week into the NBA’s suspension because of the spread of COVID-19, and a bunch of NBA players have taken to streaming themselves playing video games on public forums to pass the time.

On Thursday, a video emerged on Twitter of Philadelphia 76ers All-Star Ben Simmons discussing who he thinks the five best defensive players in the league are with Duane Jackson, director of eSports development for SLAM.

Much of the 45-second clip features Simmons talking about how Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert — the two-time reigning Defensive Player of the Year — is not in his top five.

“I look at (Los Angeles Lakers big man Anthony Davis). I think like he’s a better defender than Gobert, ’cause he can defend, like, guards at times,” Simmons said.

Simmons then starts to list players he considers good defenders, including former Sixers teammate Jimmy Butler, current teammate Joel Embiid, the Boston Celtics’ Marcus Smart, and the L.A. Clippers’ Kawhi Leonard.

After some discussion — not all of which is included in the posted clips — Jackson started reviewing Simmons’ top five list, which included Davis, Leonard, reigning league MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo of the Milwaukee Bucks, and himself.

Ben Simmons lists Anthony Davis as the best defender in the NBA; along with his list of top 5 defenders pic.twitter.com/5tW7rEAcnz — Ball Realm (@TheBallRealm) March 20, 2020

“I didn’t say Rudy, though,” Simmons said.

Jackson responds with some amazement: “You didn’t say Rudy?”

“Nah, ’cause I look at Rudy — I put (LA Clippers guard Patrick Beverley) in there,” Simmons said.

“You cannot not put Rudy in the top five,” the Jackson said.

“Why?” Simmons asked.

“Dude’s a beast,” Jackson replied.

Before the other person had a chance to respond, Simmons said, “I play ball. I’m lookin’ at guys who can guard 1-5, man.”

No word on whether Simmons is also looking at guards who are 3-point shooters.

All of this comes after Simmons beat out Jazz guard Donovan Mitchell for Rookie of the Year in 2018. Simmons, who was officially considered a rookie during the 2017-18 season, received the year-end award to the ire of many Jazz fans who thought that his rookie season should have been the year prior, which Simmons missed because of a foot injury.