In light of the possible presidential run of former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz, the FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast crew discusses the appetite for a “centrist independent” candidate among Americans. The data shows that while there are many self-defined independents in the American electorate, few of them are actually centrists — and Schultz may not even be one himself.

You can listen to the episode by clicking the “play” button in the audio player above or by downloading it in iTunes, the ESPN App or your favorite podcast platform. If you are new to podcasts, learn how to listen.

The FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast publishes Monday evenings, with occasional special episodes throughout the week. Help new listeners discover the show by leaving us a rating and review on iTunes. Have a comment, question or suggestion for “good polling vs. bad polling”? Get in touch by email, on Twitter or in the comments.