Staying on GTK/GNOME 3.8 next cycle/for the LTS?

Hey everyone, I know this cycle is not finished yet, but in case some of us start thinking about next cycle, I wanted to start a discussion on the GNOME version to use for the lts. I think we should stick with GNOME 3.8 another cycle, here are the reasons why: - we (Ubuntu Desktop) are currently mostly happy with what we have - the focus for the Ubuntu Desktop team is likely to continue to be Ubuntu Touch/phone next cycle - due to the previous factor, we are going to be limited in resources to do desktop work - it's a LTS cycle, we should focus on bugs fixing if possible - GTK 3.10 deprecates several options, it would be good to stay away from those controverses for the LTS (see https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228886 as an example of what is going to happen once we deprecate those options) - it seems like the next RedHat enterprise edition is going to be based on GNOME 3.8, if that's the case it would make sense for us to focus on bringing quality to the same version/share the maintainance work a bit What do other things? I guess the Ubuntu GNOME Remix is going to want newer version, we should try to accomodate that need if we can. One way would be to do the "fork" of gnome-control-center we have been talking about for a while. Blocking GTK to 3.8 is likely to make hard to update GNOME components anyway, if we decide to go this way... What do others think? Cheers, Sebastien Bacher