Anonymous wrote: Eric Lauder wrote: A suggestion: don’t use “decent”.

Young men suffice.

Because when you use “decent” you implies that there are a lot of young men who are bad. Also: stop with that bulls~~~ of “loyalty” and “love” – such things weren’t widespread in the past, as you keep suggesting, it was mostly enforced through rules. Most young men are trash. Most older men are trash too. Being s~~~ty isn’t just limited to women. A major part of the reason women are so s~~~ty is because s~~~ty men wanted rules in place to allow women to be s~~~ty. And forced s~~~ty women onto whatever good men there are, because the s~~~ty men just think that’s how it should be. There is no such thing as restrictive laws for good men. Good men are supposed to be free and make their own judgments. Laws are supposed to restrict s~~~ty people, but they are limited because of that. The system needs to allow good people to be free and to have power over bad people.

Yea Eric, gotta side with Phoenix on this one. There are plenty of s~~~ty dudes out here in the world. We cannot abscond them of any wrongdoing. There are just s~~~ty people in general running around, and they tend to breed with each other, so no luck of stopping the evolution of stupid people.

I sometimes wonder if we have a lot of members who say they did nothing wrong in their past relationships, but really the downfall of their relationship was their fault and they pass off their wrongdoing as the woman’s fault, when discussing it on this site. I have no doubt that there are some members here that are like that, not naming any names of course.

Then you have those who have actually been on the wrong side of something wicked in the form of a divorce court or custody battle or child support court, no matter what it is, it turned out bad for them and they are here because of it.

But my point is, there is plenty of blame to go around for how f~~~ed up society is, and it doesn’t just lie at the feet of the women, it lies at the feet of those s~~~ty men as well.