"I have no clout," he said, when asked to describe his role in Pennsylvania politics. "Here's the good news: I don't want any clout, and I am so happy that I probably have the most politically savvy group of young business managers at the building trades than we've ever had. And that it's easy for me to drift away. And I don't see myself after this, there being too many more campaigns. So my days in politics are coming to a close."