Bernie Sanders seems like a difficult interview. Not that he's combative or doesn't answer questions as much as he's much, much more likely to start delivering a speech than get into the standard late-night banter. It's part of his "lovably radical great-uncle" vibe. And he did have a lot of interesting stuff to say about the Paul Manafort indictment and Donald Trump's anti-journalism crusade, but Seth Meyers did manage to wring a few weird personal stories out of the Vermont senator.

First, Meyers wanted the scoop on Sanders' "Medicare for all bill," which as he points out made moderate Democrats nervous that Republicans would repeal Obamacare extra hard. And Sanders doesn't undersell how big a deal it was defeating the GOP's efforts to kick 30 million Americans off of their health insurance:

Fortunately, thank God, we were able to beat that back. So I did everything that I could to protect the Affordable Care Act, but what we also, all of us, understand is that the Affordable Care Act is not good enough. We have got to do more. You have 28 million people in this country today who have no health insurance. You have even more who are under-insured with high deductibles, high co-payments. We pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. One out of five people can't even afford the medicine their doctor prescribes.

Sanders goes on to say that the solution to most of this is to get private insurance companies out of health care altogether, to audience applause. Then Meyers wanted to know about pre-Senate Sanders, and specifically about a company he used to work for called "Creative Carpentry," which sounds a little Dr. Seuss-y for a carpentry company. "Well, we were creative with the name," Sanders replied, saying he mostly banged nails, which was fun (he's right, that doesn't sound like carpentry).

But the real shocker is Sanders' old-school, extreme-thrift cooking technique. It's called "Berno."

Sanders: You know what Sterno is?

Meyers: Sterno. Yeah, it's sort of like camping food, basically.

Sanders: Yes, so this was a variation of that using toilet paper, I might say. Pouring some stuff on it, we would cook on that. We've come a long way since those days. [Turning to Meyers, arms in the air, going full Larry David.] Why are you taking us back there!?

That sounds less like Sterno and slightly more like Charmin napalm, but it probably still cooks up a good oatmeal. Sanders' odds for surviving on The Walking Dead just shot way up, provided he doesn't actually have to build shelter.

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