tired_runner

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New York 1 recommendation tired_runner Premium Member Long live T-Mo Glad to see the underdog gaining some traction.



As long as they keep my HSPA speeds the way they've been, I'll be a repeat customer of theirs.



hitachi369

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Grand Rapids, MI hitachi369 Premium Member 2 Years after start of at&t drama. I'm back after my 2 year stunt at another carrier after dumping them because of the at&t merger stuff. I'm sure I'm not the only one.



chlen

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Saratoga, NY chlen Premium Member new plans, new network.... T Mobile started LTE just a bit ago, and they are already at my door with HSPA+ and LTE. My Sprint buddies could not get WIMAX past a half dozen streets and LTE is far away. People dumping Boost, Sprint to go to TMO.



They got one issue they will need to address before becoming a real player. Their building penetration is beyond horrible. It would not be at all reliable for work. However if you are not tether to your provider for work, in any metro area TMO is a decent option. I know many people in Boston and NYC who are very happy with it.

Beans5

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united state Beans5 Member Re: new plans, new network.... Any Idea when Tmo will take that 850mhz band they got from metro and deploy it to there network so people can have inbuilding penetration?



K3SGM

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Columbia, PA K3SGM Premium Member Re: new plans, new network.... I don't think Metro has any 850 spectrum, but they do hold a 700MHz license for Boston, and other parts of New England.



And the building penetration thing is sort of a falsehood, they just need to have the 1700/1900 sites spaced closer together.



850 is technically bad for dense urban areas, because the signals travel much farther distances, and can't be re-used as often, which reduces system capacity.



Why do you think AT&T, and Verizon are both now actively moving their LTE up to 1700/2100MHz AWS frequencies??



chlen

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Saratoga, NY chlen Premium Member Re: new plans, new network.... said by K3SGM: I don't think Metro has any 850 spectrum, but they do hold a 700MHz license for Boston, and other parts of New England.



And the building penetration thing is sort of a falsehood, they just need to have the 1700/1900 sites spaced closer together.



850 is technically bad for dense urban areas, because the signals travel much farther distances, and can't be re-used as often, which reduces system capacity.



Why do you think AT&T, and Verizon are both now actively moving their LTE up to 1700/2100MHz AWS frequencies??





Whatever TMO has to do to improve this problem they should. Outside their network in the Capital District is great. It is fast as hell even on HSPA+, LTE at the TMO store was ~25mbit up/down!



Another thing that TMO lacks is highway coverage in 3G. I can drive from Albany to Montreal, Boston, NYC, Buffalo and never lose 3G, meaning I can get my email. TMO drops back to EDGE or ATT, which hardly works.



All this being said, when my contract is up, I may take a work phone (on VZ) and personal go to TMO. You may very be right on that, but the #1 reason why people dont use TMO for anything more than casual here is building penetration.Whatever TMO has to do to improve this problem they should. Outside their network in the Capital District is great. It is fast as hell even on HSPA+, LTE at the TMO store was ~25mbit up/down!Another thing that TMO lacks is highway coverage in 3G. I can drive from Albany to Montreal, Boston, NYC, Buffalo and never lose 3G, meaning I can get my email. TMO drops back to EDGE or ATT, which hardly works.All this being said, when my contract is up, I may take a work phone (on VZ) and personal go to TMO.



SteelerRaw

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said by Beans5: Any Idea when Tmo will take that 850mhz band they got from metro and deploy it to there network so people can have inbuilding penetration?

Never since they didn't acquire any 850MHz spectrum from MetroPCS.

Cobra11M

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Tmo shows interest in the coming spectrum sale, which is in the 600 MHz, that would alone fix there issue I think that's what the company is going to chase next that's if they can afford it and or get the government to give them some for so much.. as we know AT&T and Verizon want to snatch that up quick to keep the other 2 at bay.. even though sprint doesn't need it to my knowledge

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said by Beans5: Any Idea when Tmo will take that 850mhz band they got from metro and deploy it to there network so people can have inbuilding penetration?

also they got a few 700mhz spectrum in certain citys from metro, its only a handful and barely any to really make a change.. the 850mhz is sprint



SteelerRaw

@level3.net SteelerRaw Anon Re: new plans, new network.... said by Cobra11M: also they got a few 700mhz spectrum in certain citys from metro, its only a handful and barely any to really make a change.

ONE 700MHz license from MetroPCS for the Boston market. No, not a handful. They got700MHz license from MetroPCS for the Boston market.

TBBroadband

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TMO has WiFi Calling for those that can obtain a wifi signal in a building for calls. It works GREAT!



chlen

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Saratoga, NY chlen Premium Member Re: new plans, new network.... That may be so, but it is not a practical business solution.



dnoyeB

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Southfield, MI dnoyeB Member Re: new plans, new network.... To me it seems practical to offer better quality and features than your competitors. I think its very practical.



I just don't like that they limited it only to phones purchased through T-Mobile.

talz13

join:2006-03-15

Avon, OH talz13 Member Good for them! I switched to T-Mobile last summer, to their $30 unlimited text / 4g plan. I've been quite happy with them, both in price and service. I do see more dead zones or low signal areas compared to my wife's phone on Verizon, but I'm paying half as much as her. In my non-critical usage situations, it's a good tradeoff.



jseymour

join:2009-12-11

Waterford, MI jseymour Member We came this >< close to switching to T-Mobile last year, about this time. But money was tight (we're currently on a very inexpensive legacy plan) and I had concerns about coverage.



Well, money's not quite so tight, now, and Sprint's coverage has become significantly worse, around here, so maybe...?



T-Mobile is kind of striking me as being much like the Sprint PCS I originally signed up with, lo these many years ago. I really liked that Sprint. Today's Sprint: Not so much.



I don't know as T-Mob current has a phone I'd like, tho. Only new phones I've seen appear that interest me are the Kyocera Torque (really rugged) and the Moto X. The Torque's only available on Sprint and the Moto X is currently only available on *spit* "AT&T"



Jim

elefante72

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East Amherst, NY elefante72 Member Re: We Almost Switched Last Year The big issue is the LTE bands, and HSPA legacy ones. They are refarming to make HSPA freq compatible w/ AT&T ish phones, but LTE support is a bear because every carrier practically uses different bands. While latest chipsets can handle most, it's not cut and dried. Even Apple had to cut a new iPhone to work on TMO.



As to the motox, for some reason AT&T is getting exclusivity, probably because they haven't done Moto phones in a while (Verizon big boys), so maybe that was the peace offering on a window not to be disclosed. If that window last more than enough, people will just pass it by. I personally think these exclusive windows suck, because phones churn so fast, they are really locking it to the main carrier. Did you see Samsung do that, or now Apple? No. I guess when you are trying to build a market those are the breaks.



I was using a Nexus4 which is an awesome phone, and what killed it for me was building penetration, and had to go to AT&T (ST). I hear the new one will support LTE, so there you go.



I think the motox is cool w/ it's natural language, however expect that to be buggy and fail in gen1....



tiger72

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Saint Louis, MO tiger72 Premium Member Re: We Almost Switched Last Year said by elefante72: The big issue is the LTE bands, and HSPA legacy ones. They are refarming to make HSPA freq compatible w/ AT&T ish phones, but LTE support is a bear because every carrier practically uses different bands. While latest chipsets can handle most, it's not cut and dried. Even Apple had to cut a new iPhone to work on TMO.

TMO is using AWS for LTE (same as VZW and some ATT areas)



Frequency-choice finally lines up quite well with TMO's spectrum holdings. As to the motox, for some reason AT&T is getting exclusivity, probably because they haven't done Moto phones in a while (Verizon big boys), so maybe that was the peace offering on a window not to be disclosed. If that window last more than enough, people will just pass it by. I personally think these exclusive windows suck, because phones churn so fast, they are really locking it to the main carrier. Did you see Samsung do that, or now Apple? No. I guess when you are trying to build a market those are the breaks.



I was using a Nexus4 which is an awesome phone, and what killed it for me was building penetration, and had to go to AT&T (ST). I hear the new one will support LTE, so there you go.



I think the motox is cool w/ it's natural language, however expect that to be buggy and fail in gen1....

TMO is harmonizing on the 1900 band for UMTS/HSPA (same as ATT)TMO is using AWS for LTE (same as VZW and some ATT areas)Frequency-choice finally lines up quite well with TMO's spectrum holdings.The MotoX is launching on all carriers. Only the MotoMaker is an AT&T Exclusive Until November...



delusion ftl

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Coverage varies by carrier and consumer. I usually suggest getting an inexpensive but decent tmo device from a classifieds or ebay. Then grab the 30 dollar unlimited data/text/100min prepay plan, then carry it around for a week or two and run speed-tests and check signal at the places you frequent most. That way you'll have an idea what to expect. Then resell that tmo device for roughly the same as you bought it for and the most you should be out is around 30 dollars for the month plan.



jseymour

join:2009-12-11

Waterford, MI jseymour Member Re: We Almost Switched Last Year Y'know something, delusion, that might actually work. But what means "unlimited data/text/100min?" Does that mean 100 talk minutes? That wouldn't be terribly useful.



Btw: "inexpensive but decent TMO device" seems to be an oxymoron--at least the way I define "inexpensive." That is: If you're talking about "smart"phones. However: There's Palm Centros--which is what I'm currently using, and those are inexpensive, so...



Jim



delusion ftl

@myvzw.com delusion ftl Anon Re: We Almost Switched Last Year It's good for testing on the cheap, as well as those who only like data/text.



Inexpensive but decent would be like an htc one S for 150. Not necessarily the phone you want long term, just for testing. Turn around and sell when done. Well I didnt mean to port your number over, and keep it as your planIt's good for testing on the cheap, as well as those who only like data/text.Inexpensive but decent would be like an htc one S for 150. Not necessarily the phone you want long term, just for testing. Turn around and sell when done.



jseymour

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Waterford, MI jseymour Member Re: We Almost Switched Last Year Well, I don't really define $150 as "inexpensive," but that's okay.



Was wondering about ruggedized Android phones and discovered the Motorola Defy Plus. That's about the same price range and could be a keeper. Biggest downside I've seen, so far, is it's only Gingerbread, with Motorola having no further upgrade plans for it, but that's not a show-stopper for me.



Thanks for the ideas!



Jim

ncbill

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said by jseymour: But what means "unlimited data/text/100min?" Does that mean 100 talk minutes? That wouldn't be terribly useful.

Works just fine if you use a Google Voice number as your "cell phone number" and install a VOIP application like GrooveIP for essentially unlimited voice via the data plan.



jseymour

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Waterford, MI jseymour Member Re: We Almost Switched Last Year Yeah, ncbill, I'm familiar with that. Have played with GrooveIP and Google Voice on my tablet. (It's running right now, in fact.) Also MobileVoIP with a SIP/VoIP provider.



But I was originally thinking of trying T-Mobile with a Palm Centro. No such apps on that. Now I'm thinking differently. Perhaps more along the lines of delusion's original suggestion: An inexpensive, but capable Android-based smartphone.



Jim

ncbill

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Winston Salem, NC ncbill Premium Member Re: We Almost Switched Last Year yep, just pick whatever's cheap enough for you but supports a decent VOIP app.



jseymour

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Waterford, MI jseymour Member Re: We Almost Switched Last Year said by ncbill: yep, just pick whatever's cheap enough for you but supports a decent VOIP app.





Currently thinking HTC Sensation. If it works out: I'll just keep it.



Jim Well, yeah, but that increased "cheap enough" from the range of $70 or so, to $150 or soCurrently thinking HTC Sensation. If it works out: I'll just keep it.Jim



ArrayList

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nexus 4?



fuziwuzi

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fuziwuzi Premium Member I've been a T-Mobile customer since 2005. I've bought several new phones from T-Mobile, and have even used their no-interest payment plans in the past with no issues. Because I travel internationally, I need to have my phone SIM unlocked and T-Mobile has always been great for that. Just in the last couple of weeks, I decided to finally get a new phone and thought the new Sony Xperia Z from T-Mobile fit my needs perfectly. I also wanted to take advantage of their new 24-month no-interest financing, which seems like a great deal. Before ordering the phone, I repeatedly told customer service, both on the phone and in a T-Mobile-owned store, that I required the phone to be SIM unlocked, non-negotiable. I was assured that would be no problem, same as always.



I received the phone (it had to be shipped, there were none in the stores), and called to get the SIM unlock. Request was submitted. Got an email the next day saying the phone's IMEI was not in the database so no unlock code could be given. I called support, was assured I could still get the code, they would submit the request to a "higher level". A few hours passed, I received another email saying, "The phone you are submitting for SIM unlock was not purchased from T-Mobile, therefore you must contact the carrier from which you purchased the phone to obtain an unlock code." I couldn't believe what I was reading, so I called support yet again. This time, however, I was told I could not submit an unlock request because the phone was not paid for in full. Support claimed that the new policy was that all phones had to be paid in full before any SIM unlock would be given, meaning I could not use the 24-month financing.



I was lied to repeatedly. So, since I was within my 14-day return period, I asked to return the phone. I was given the shipping address, I went the next morning to UPS and shipped the phone back to T-Mobile.



Then, to just rub in the bad blood, of course I needed to reactivate my previous phone, I was told, "no problem, give it a couple of hours." I waited overnight, still wasn't activated. I called back, told "give it another couple of hours." I waited 5 more hours, still not activated. I called back. This time I was told, "Oh, you're trying to activate a previous SIM, that takes a minimum of 72 hours and usually at least a week." Again with the deceptions! I had to make another trip to a T-Mobile store and get a new SIM just so I'd have service again.



I really miss the good customer service that T-Mobile used to be known for. While everyone I dealt with was very nice and polite, their deception about current policies and practices, especially to a long-time customer, are just unacceptable.



delusion ftl

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»www.tmonews.com/2013/05/ ··· avelers/ A little surprised at the runaround you received, but not terribly unexpected given the massive changes the carrier has gone through. Most reps probably have no idea what the rules are. See this link for their current unlock policy.



fuziwuzi

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fuziwuzi Premium Member Re: Devil is in the details... On reading that, according to their "new rules", they should have provided me with the unlock code even though the phone was not paid in full. I have over 8 years account tenure and had not requested an unlock code in over 2 years. But, again, nobody told me this, I only got jerked around.

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said by delusion ftl : A little surprised at the runaround you received, but not terribly unexpected given the massive changes the carrier has gone through. Most reps probably have no idea what the rules are. See this link for their current unlock policy.



»www.tmonews.com/2013/05/ ··· avelers/





»support.t-mobile.com/doc ··· DOC-1588 It seems they did look at customer suggestions and modified the rules again on July 3, 2013. They made the rules MORE draconian, completely ignoring customer complaints.



jap

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said by fuziwuzi: While everyone I dealt with was very nice and polite...



Sounds like you did your due diligence and it still blew up in your face because people said "yes we can" when they either knew or ought to have known they cannot. Worst BS a customer service rep can spew, IMO. It's gotten so I endow most trust in people capable of uttering "I don't know".



I'm on manual post pay and have never found the task of paying someone so arduous and failure prone. Website, phone, or human: it's like they don't want the money. This is my #1 complaint about being a T-Mo customer. Their automated phone sys is hideous, website coding is a non-conforming mess, and humans are so eager to recite shiny hollow apologies and ' sure, no problem' every other sentence that you know they're simply not listening to whatever problem you're trying to solve. I came for the sensible service plans and GSM but T-Mo's account management implementations create as many problems as they solve and I am losing patience.Sounds like you did your due diligence and it still blew up in your face because people said "yes we can" when they either knew or ought to have known they cannot. Worst BS a customer service rep can spew, IMO. It's gotten so I endow most trust in people capable of uttering "I don't know".I'm on manual post pay and have never found the task of paying someone so arduous and failure prone. Website, phone, or human: it's like they don't want the money.



ArrayList

DevOps

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buy unlocked and you won't have to worry about unlocking.



jseymour

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said by fuziwuzi: ...Before ordering the phone, I repeatedly told customer service, both on the phone and in a T-Mobile-owned store, that I required the phone to be SIM unlocked, non-negotiable. I was assured that would be no problem, same as always.



I received the phone (it had to be shipped, there were none in the stores), and called to get the SIM unlock. Request was submitted. ... I was told I could not submit an unlock request because the phone was not paid for in full. Support claimed that the new policy was that all phones had to be paid in full before any SIM unlock would be given, meaning I could not use the 24-month financing. If I get a new phone with T-Mobile, it will be absolutely necessary they unlock it right off, as one of the reasons I'd go with them is to have a phone compatible with the GSM networks in Europe right out of the gate.



Solution, I suppose, is to BYOD. Finance it yourself. I cannot imagine the finance charges on a $500-$600 conventional loan over two years would amount to all that much. Or just buy the thing out of savings (if you have it) and pay yourself back--with interest.



Jim That would be a show-stopper, for me.I get a new phone with T-Mobile, it will be absolutely necessary they unlock it right off, as one of the reasons I'd go with them is to have a phone compatible with the GSM networks in Europe right out of the gate.Solution, I suppose, is to BYOD. Finance it yourself. I cannot imagine the finance charges on a $500-$600 conventional loan over two years would amount to allmuch. Or just buy the thing out of savings (if you have it) and pay yourself back--with interest.Jim

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As a longtime TMO customer myself fuziwuzi I apreciate the post. I totally agree with you that this is not the TMO behavior that I would be expecting.

sullim4

join:2003-05-18

Redmond, WA sullim4 Member I've had T-Mo since 2009 here in the Puget Sound area. Coverage is great here.



But anytime I travel outside of Seattle the data coverage blows. Take for example my trip last week to the Midwest. I drove from Holland, MI down to Cincinnati and the entire ride outside of Benton Harbor, South Bend, and Indianapolis was one big dead zone. I couldn't get any data whatsoever despite my phone showing 5 bars of 2G. I have had similar experiences in upstate NY along the Thruway and other areas that should in theory have good coverage.



It's fine for me, and I'm saving a boatload of money, but even though I love the LTE speeds, I'd rather they spend that money on improving their H+ coverage along major highways and in smaller cities. LTE hasn't boosted my speeds significantly enough over H+.



firephoto

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Brewster, WA firephoto Premium Member The thing is, non "postpaid" accounts don't get service in tmo areas that have roaming agreements or whatever they call them, you have to up to the month to month accounts to get service. So having a nice smart phone with no data service for $120 or so a year is not in the picture yet.

rick0204

join:2009-05-20

North Bergen, NJ rick0204 Member We have excellent T-Mo coverage in NYC and NJ. I needed to buy a new phone and I had been with VZW for years. I decided to switch to T-Mo because the plans are cheaper and I liked the new Jump program. The T-Mo store that I went to was mobbed with people buying new phones in the Jump program. The line was out the door. I also had to go to a VZW store to take care of another matter and the store was empty. I was the only customer and the employees were texting and dozing off.



T-Mo is getting more new phones quicker then VZW and in this area seems to be far more popular.



cybah

join:2000-03-09

MA cybah Member T-Mobile's Data Network sucks. I've been a customer since the days of Voicestream (Pre-2002) and the service level has gone thru the toilet. I don't know how they can claim to be so fast, because I've never seen it in Boston.



I guess I never realized how bad it was until I got a new 4G phone last year. It was slowish on 3G but again its 3G, it's not going to be super fast. 4G should be FAR better and it's not.



I'm NOT happy to see they are picking up new customers. why? Because I believe the issue with T-Mobile's network in Boston is it is oversubscribed.



It's not my phone. I have THREE T-Mobile phones. One is a Samsung Galaxy S3 (was given to me), a HTC One S (Primary Phone), and a HTC TouchPro2 (3G, but still works).



Both "4G" phones are slower than crap. And its area dependant. When I am at home (just outside Boston in Chelsea, MA) I cannot use the data portion of my phone. I have full strength and five bars and I just can't go anywhere. Both phones experience this. The 3G phone is marginally better, and at least.. unlike the 4G phone, it responds to data requests. The TP2 and SGS3 just sit there spinning their wheels like the lights are on but no one is home.



I can be on the bus going over the Tobin Bridge home from work and the phone will work in Charlestown (Boston side of the bridge) but the minute I get off the off ramp in Chelsea, my phone stops working.



When I am at work (Cambridge) work far better than at home. But the minute I head toward Somerville or Lechmere it stops working. Same with my nigh job in Everett, Does not work in Everett (or so damn slow its painful), but the minute I cross into Medford or Malden, it works again.



It's also time of day dependant. I get up at 4am for work. 4G Service on the HTC One S works great. Nice and fast. I don't need Wifi. Come home around 5pm in the evening. I can't go ANYWHERE on my phone without connecting to my wireless AP.



Call quality isn't much better. At home, I cannot make calls unless I'm connected via WifiCalling. If I try it without Wifi Calling, the call drops or I sound so garbled I have no other choice to hang up and try again. I end up using my Comcast phone at home because the call quality is so bad.



Oh yeah and service INSIDE my house is non existent.



The only thing that DOES work is if I switch my phone from WCDMA to GSM (2G) and my phone works, but it's painfully slow cuz its 2G. HOWEVER, it does work every time but its just slow. Sorry I am not paying 100+/mo for 4G service only to leave it on 2G when I am at home.



I've called T-Mobile several times about this. Either they don't care, or they just send me another phone, thinking it's the phone. I've now had THREE HTC One S's since I got that phone last year, Sorry T-Mo, it's not the phone, its your network. I've talked to a few tier two techs and often they have to "call you back" (and never do). Kinda over trying to complain about it.



I'm so frustrated, and am in contract until next May. Done with T-Mobile after my contract is up and dumping them for Verizon Wireless. Sad, I've been a T-Mobile customer for over 10 years now, and sad that I have to leave (because up until 2 years ago I never had service issues, but then again I never used my phone as heavily as I do now)



T-Mobile: America's Slowest 4G Network



(as I like to say)

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member how shitty T-Mobile's network is and go back to their old phone company.

Cobra11M

join:2010-12-23

Mineral Wells, TX Cobra11M Member Re: Then those new customers find out I've had T-Mobile for 6 month's now and will not be going back to AT&T (Ma-Bell) T-Mobile's network is awesome where I live, 4G, and even better in Fort-Worth/Dallas Area.. which is 30 miles from me..



Zenit

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Purcellville, VA 1 edit Zenit Premium Member We switched 5 months ago from AT&T to T-Mobile and we wont be going back. We are not addicted to our phones, so it does not matter if we have EDGE or 4G. EDGE is enough to use Google Maps, or to check email/use iMessage.



Overall, our coverage has been decent in northern VA, there are many more gaps than with AT&T but the service is much much cheaper with less limits. $100 covers 4 lines with 500mb data, Unlimited Talk, and Unlimited Texting. With AT&T 200mb of data on 2 lines + Unlimited Talk on 4 cost $200.



I have seen a constant improvement in T-Mobiles network over the past months too. the 1900mhz refarm is progressing, more and more towers are showing 3G on my iPhone - 5mbit down in most cases. They are slowly working to eliminate EDGE, at least in suburban areas.



MiNdErAsR

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Outer Limits MiNdErAsR Member I switched to T-Mobile for a better deal on the Galaxy S4, taking advantage of the no contract contract. I also liked the idea of my bill dropping once the phone is paid off, unlike other carriers who continue to charge until you upgrade the phone.



The phone is great, the service is horrid. Their coverage map shows my work location as "very strong". Yet I have to leave my building to get any signal at all. To make matters worse, I only get spotty coverage on sunny days. Thick cloud cover == no signal at all.



At home, the 4 LTE signal comes and goes. The map shows coverage as "good". I disagree.



Would it be possible to "jailbreak" the phone and take it over to Verizon?



delusion ftl

@comcast.net delusion ftl Anon Re: T-Mobile Sees Significant New Subscriber Surge What market are you in? What results do you get when you force your gs4 into wcdma 1900 only?