Meet Fox and Owl, the trans couple who don't identify as male or female

I sort of denounce the idea of being a man or woman. A non-binary is an identity on its own outside of this binary.

Today we were joined by trans non-binary couple Fox and Owl, who don't identify as fully male or female.

Although Fox was "assigned" a female gender at birth and Owl was born male, the pair are now speaking out about why they don't feel the need to be called a man or a woman.

Gender neutrality is a subject Piers Morgan has been anything but quiet about this week and the pair joined us to explain to him, Susanna and the nation the reasoning behind their identity.

Fox’s passport states their gender as male. They explained: “You don’t actually need to have a trans operation to have male on your passport, you can be recognised as male either way.”

On whether they could be addressed as he or she, Fox said: “You can call us they, that would be fine.”

Asked whether they feel like two genders, Owl said: “No [...] I sort of denounce the idea of being a man or a woman. A non-binary is an identity on its own outside of this binary.”

Challenged of whether it’s “gobbledigook” by Piers, Fox insisted: “It’s not gobbledigook - you’ve got to respect what people want to be called.”

Watch the full interview above

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