So, let me just say straight up that, in answer to your question, the Republican Party still has this fight to go through, and they still have this reckoning. Because what they’ve done is they’ve elected someone who was not of their caste. … He’s not a Republican in the sense that Paul Ryan is a Republican or Reince Priebus is a Republican. He is a guy who is a populist, and he was able to — as we saw with Bernie Sanders — shake up the system.

The difference is, his shake-up was more successful than Bernie’s. … The Republican Party has someone who’s not going to move the party further right. It’s iron-facts going to bring the party more to the center. I believe that Donald Trump, at the end of the day, is going to govern as a pragmatic populist. Here’s why: On big-ticket items, whether it’s infrastructure, whether it’s transportation, whether it’s health care, whether it’s a whole host of things, if he can’t get the deal done with Paul Ryan, he’s going to work with Nancy Pelosi. He’s going to work with Chuck Schumer.

And that’s the flexibility that he has, that a traditional Republican president would not have. It would be harder for him to do. And so, I just kind of look at this, and I get the feel, externally, that Donald Trump has the upper hand here in many respects. And the party is going to come more to him, which will, to the core of your question, really put stress and strain on those fissures that exist within the party. And there will be, I predict, some real moments where the party’s going to go in one direction and the president’s going to want to go in another. And that Republican label is not going to be strong enough to hold that relationship together.