SaperPL said: Interesting concept, but I'm not sure if it's really something viable to sell and therefore manufacture at this point.



It looks to me like A4-SFX with some additional room for bit bigger GPU and CPU cooler, Click to expand...

wahaha360 said: I designed it for air cooling to be carry-on flight ready. Water cooling makes things complicated.



The handle occupies the empty space between the dual 92mm fans. However, there is space for a ~280mm radiator on dual 120mm fans.



So I could offer 2 top panel options, either the air cooling + handle or water cooling setup. . Click to expand...

wahaha360 said: Well, since I represent half of NCASE, so I can't let Necere have all the fun.



The design is not finalized, so the tooling/MOQ is not finalized, so talking about cost is king of moot at this point.



But if it helps, with the riser included, we are targeting USD 120 - USD 160.



There are 3 factors that can throw the price off:

1) Tooling for the Unibody and Handle, if we screw up, you can't really just fix tooling, so it's likely have to be redone, which double the cost

2) Sandblasting + Anodizing, I really want to get a finish close to Apple's MacBook. Quality anodizing can be quite expensive for small volume. I know the person who can make this happen, but it depends on her mood.

3) MOQ



Let's see what happens. Click to expand...

wahaha360 said: Haha, an earlier design had the fan at the bottom for intake with dust filters, therefore the handle was at the bottom as well



However, to allow this set up to be flipped frequently, I need a lock on the female PCIe X16 riser socket....and that's a ~ USD 40,000 problem. The current PCB riser uses an existing right angle PCie X16 socket, but it doesn't have a GPU lock, to get the lock, it's ~ USD 40,000 for tooling. However, to allow this set up to be flipped frequently, I need a lock on the female PCIe X16 riser socket....and that's a ~ USD 40,000 problem. The current PCB riser uses an existing right angle PCie X16 socket, but it doesn't have a GPU lock, to get the lock, it's ~ USD 40,000 for tooling. Click to expand...

Fifth Horseman said: Overall I really like it! My main concern with it, which happens to be the same one behind the reason why I didn't buy an NCASE, is the max video card size supported. Ironically this go around it's not the max length of the card that's the issue, it's the max height (I'm using an Asus Strix 980Ti OC that's officially 305MM x 152MM x 39.8MM). I know it's easy to say "just buy a reference card", and a few years from now I will (whenever the successor to the current TITAN-X is released), but if this case was just 10MM taller to allow for a non-reference video card I'd be all over it. Although my current mini-itx mobile gaming rig (in a Corsair 380T) is water cooled and I was able to shoe-horn in my video card into the case, I'd gladly forego the watercooling on your case if it meant my video card would fit.



Additionally although I like the idea of saving space by using a Flex PSU, in practice it'd probably be better to stick with an SFX/SFX-L PSU. Most Flex PSU's that I've been able to find aren't powerful enough to support a high end GPU.



Beyond that I really like the styling of the case and I can see where you got the inspiration for the handle from (a handgun carrying case). Click to expand...

Tyki said: So is there no front IO for this case because of how small it is?



I'll say the same things here that I said to Necere on the LRPC thread, which is that you should focus here on defining an identity for the NCase brand . Make sure that this case fits that identity rather than the goal you want for it. What I think this means is deciding that to do to make this the best enclosure of its size class by not being small just to be as small as possible, but to have a mixture of style, functionality, and options to make it great. Click to expand...

Necere said:







You need practically the same again in clearance as the already substantial 68mm of the rad alone. The PSU at the front, and the motherboard/GPU at the back of the case are in the way. There just isn't room for it. The problem with supporting water cooling in a case layout like this is there really isn't any room to run the tubing. The EK Predator AIOs, for example, need a lot of clearance below the rad for the tubing:You need practically the same again in clearance as the already substantial 68mm of the rad alone. The PSU at the front, and the motherboard/GPU at the back of the case are in the way. There just isn't room for it. Click to expand...

Yess!! More toys and shit to spend time and money on!!And fans. I expect a heck of a lot of complains about people toasting stuff in their A4s. Fans change the whole thing.I suggest that you show some renders for a "desktop" version of the project (desktop = without handle) for those that find the handle "weird". I know I have no use for it... but a small case with fans is always on my "things to check" list. Specially now that I'm getting ready to move most of my storage to a NAS. Stuff gets easier when 1 x SSD can get the job done.Looks like you found a good fab then, because the quoted price for an alu, sandblasted anodized finish is insane. I can see a lot of stir being created at such a price-point. Specially if it ends up on the low side of the interval.Well... yes, but that isn't a problem if you simply use some tall feet. Mind you this would be only used for the "desktop" version but making the case be separated from the desk with some some sort of a stand would make it more flexible. And more flexible = more volume = less cost per unit.By the time you will get the chance to buy this thing you will certainly have changed your gpu.In any case, ultra small cases such as this requires you to buy your hardware according to the case.I do not agree with that. The NCASE brand is very young to make such a move. In any case, even the biggest brands can afford to have different branches so that wouldn't be a problem either.What is important is that they follow the same due-process that got the M1 to where it is.Ignore the predator. It is simply too big for small enclosures to be ever considered. Also, I suggest you ignore watercooling altogether. Not because it isn't a good idea... but because you mention that you aren't savvy and water cooling in very small enclosures requires somebody that knows their stuff. So... the easiest way would be to send a prototype (which won't happen for the time being, I know) to somebody who is used to do watercooling builds in very small cases and see what they feel about it.But if people is watercooling even their Raspberry Pis... they will watercool anything. The challenge is what makes it interesting.To me, the fact that it is a small case with FANS is what makes or breaks the design. High-powered systems will never work properly without fans. Period. What if once everything is settled WC is compatible? Good. What if with minimal changes you can accommodate lots of things? Good. But tinkering that early? Nah. I wouldn't waste my time in it.