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Pittsburgh, PA Mike Mod MPAA doesn't like it.. ..because it costs them money.



"intended to "annoy," "offend," "harass" or "terrify,"



Sounds like every film in the past 10 years.



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1 recommendation fuziwuzi Premium Member Re: MPAA doesn't like it.. said by Mike: ..because it costs them money.



"intended to "annoy," "offend," "harass" or "terrify,"



Sounds like every film in the past 10 years.

Sounds like DMCA notices from the MPAA.

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USA ctggzg Premium Member Re: MPAA doesn't like it.. Sounds like people trying to deflect blame and justify stealing almost to the point where they start believing it.

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said by ctggzg: Sounds like people trying to deflect blame and justify stealing almost to the point where they start believing it.





Thankfully this is so overzealous it would be laughed out of a court in no time. Not really.Thankfully this is so overzealous it would be laughed out of a court in no time.



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Los Angeles, CA Thaler Premium Member Re: If it is as bad as advertised, Fed Court will stop it I'd like to think that they're currently busy trolling the governor on Facebook.



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Indeed, I don't see any chance this would hold up in court. More than likely many of those who supported it are well aware of this, and are using it purely as a political stunt.



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Fort Wayne, IN cdru MVM Re: If it is as bad as advertised, Fed Court will stop it said by Sabre: More than likely many of those who supported it are well aware of this, and are using it purely as a political stunt.



At the next cyber bullying press conference where some kid was a victim: "My opponent did not support this bill that would help stop cyber bullying. He doesn't care that this horrible tragedy could have been avoided if only authorities had the resources and laws in place..." Or using it as ammunition against political opponents.At the next cyber bullying press conference where some kid was a victim: "My opponent did not support this bill that would help stop cyber bullying. He doesn't care that this horrible tragedy could have been avoided if only authorities had the resources and laws in place..."



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said by FFH5: If the law is as bad as advertised, a Federal Court will stop it from being implemented as soon as the Governor signs it. The lawyers for those opposing it are probably sitting outside of Federal Court right now just waiting for it to be signed in order to apply for a temporary injunction against it.

100% agree. No way this stands up in a court.



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You're right, of course; that's the system working as intended. The problem is, how did such an obviously moronic law even make it this far? Do we have so few people with a modicum of sense left in the halls of power?

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I lived there a while, and this does not surprise me.

Look up the demographics and you might find some interesting statistics like; average age, religion and such.



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When are governments going to figure out that they can't regulate the Internet? It amazes me that people who write these laws don't think of the many number of ways they can be applied. I'm personlly annoyed and offended by this law, lets charge them all with a class 1 misdemeanor.



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Mount Airy, MD 1 recommendation pnh102 Premium Member Bullying Will Always Be With Us When did fighting back against bullies go out of style? Everyone knows that going to the schools or government for help in dealing with bullies never works.



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USA 1 recommendation TechyDad Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us Fighting back against bullies doesn't always work. When I was in high school, I was bullied by five or six kids who hung out as a group. One on one, I might have stood a chance, but one on six they would have pounded me into the dirt. Then, I'd have been bullied AND beaten up.



People *should* go to the schools for help. The schools have a responsibility to stop bullying and keep kids safe. If they don't then they are failing at their duty and should be reported to the Superintendent, school board, and any other government officials. Parents should go as high as possible to make sure their kids are safe and free to learn without being harassed.



At my son's old school, a kid punched him in the stomach and sent him to the nurse. When I spoke with the principal, she kept changing her story and finally claimed my son "isn't the type of kid who would be bullied." She was trying to sweep it under the rug. (Ignoring the problem is easier than fixing it.) So we pulled our son from that school, went to the superintendent and got him transferred to another school where he's doing much better.



Kids who are being bullied need support networks and that includes parents and school administrators.



All that being said, this law sounds idiotic. I can see where the intentions might be good, but it also sounds so vague as to stifle free speech in the pursuit of stopping bullying.

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Mullica Hill, NJ 1 recommendation Kearnstd Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us Also today fighting back gets you seen as just as bad as the bully. kid finally snaps and pounds a longtime bully into the dirt and hes seen as an aggressor and suspended or expelled from school, and then the parents get sued.



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Mount Airy, MD pnh102 Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us said by Kearnstd: Also today fighting back gets you seen as just as bad as the bully. kid finally snaps and pounds a longtime bully into the dirt and hes seen as an aggressor and suspended or expelled from school, and then the parents get sued.



Sadly, that kind of response becomes "logical" in the mind of the victim when they see the schools doing absolutely nothing to stop bullying. Or worse, the bullying victim comes back with a gun and shoots the place up.Sadly, that kind of response becomes "logical" in the mind of the victim when they see the schools doing absolutely nothing to stop bullying.

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Glen Burnie, MD 2 recommendations moonpuppy (banned) Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us said by pnh102: said by Kearnstd: Also today fighting back gets you seen as just as bad as the bully. kid finally snaps and pounds a longtime bully into the dirt and hes seen as an aggressor and suspended or expelled from school, and then the parents get sued.



Sadly, that kind of response becomes "logical" in the mind of the victim when they see the schools doing absolutely nothing to stop bullying.

Or worse, the bullying victim comes back with a gun and shoots the place up.Sadly, that kind of response becomes "logical" in the mind of the victim when they see the schools doing absolutely nothing to stop bullying. Why would schools stop bullying? Most of the aggressors are members of the sports teams that bring in money for the schools.



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Thats how it was for me. I got bullied a lot; and more often than not, on occasions where I actually decided to fight back, I was the one who got in trouble...



One time there was a group of 4 kids messing with me in the gym locker room. I got so fed up I picked up a metal trash can (the 32 gallon size) and tossed it across the room at them.



Another time the same kids were messing with me outside, I actually kicked one of them behind their knee and dropped him to the ground. Then I kneeled on his chest and forced him to say he'd never bother me again.



It worked. But of course a teacher saw me on top of the guy and I got sent home.



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I agree with you that the law is stupid... but do schools really do anything about bullying? Back in my days when I got bullied they schools didn't care or do anything. For my parents, switching schools really wasn't an option either.



I am wondering if all of the news of suicides among bullying victims is a real uptick in suicides, or if there is just more reporting on this issue.



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USA TechyDad Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us Some schools are doing more, but some schools just define themselves as "bully-free" and then ignore and signs of bullying. As you can tell from my previous comment, bullying is a big hot-button issue with me. I was never suicidal, but I did get extremely paranoid and almost got very violent one time (and this coming from someone who is normally very non-violent). It took me years to recover (in some ways, I'll never recover) and my bullying wasn't even as bad as some kids have it. When I was bullied, I had my home as a refuge. With cyberbullying, no place is safe.



I can understand the desire to impose penalties for people who bully online. However, any action taken needs to be measured.



Of course, having read the law in question, it does sound a bit more balanced than the summary initially led me to believe. It seems more geared towards updating the law so that people who threaten harm electronically (e.g. "I'm gonna hunt you down and #*&@ing kill you, you #*(&.") don't get away with it because they didn't use a telephone. It mentions using "any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person" and including references to stalking the person. So it looks like this bill isn't a "hey, that Twitter comment offends me, arrest that man" bill, but a "this person is stalking me and saying he's going to hunt me down and kill me, arrest that man" bill.



On the other hand, I'm not a lawyer so I could be misreading the details of the law. If it needs to be further amended to prevent it from being misused, it definitely should be.



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Mount Airy, MD pnh102 Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us I think a lot of good would come of teaching kids to use the "block" or "ignore" function available in many such applications. It is already illegal to post threats of violence against people so I don't see why such a law is needed.



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USA TechyDad Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us True. When my son gets old enough to use social media, I'll teach him those functions. I'll also teach him a lesson I figured out in college (once I was away from the high school bullying): People can say whatever they want about you, but if you don't value their opinion then just ignore them and don't let it bother you. If my wife or kids have a negative opinion of something I do, that matters to me. If some random guy on the Internet has a negative opinion about me, I'm not letting it bother me. It's that person's problem, not mine.

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said by pnh102: I think a lot of good would come of teaching kids to use the "block" or "ignore" function available in many such applications. It is already illegal to post threats of violence against people so I don't see why such a law is needed.

Would do nothing. In fact, it could make it worse since the bullies would need to really get physical. What happens when a bully hurts a victim? A few days of detention. What happens when a victim fights back? Arrest by local authorities.

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said by TechyDad: When I was bullied, I had my home as a refuge. With cyberbullying, no place is safe. didn't want to hit the ignore button, because the bullies are usually the popular kids. everywhere is safe from cyberbullying. Just learn to hit the damn ignore button, and report shit on facebook and twitter. Dont friend the bullies, dont have a public profile where they can comment, and dont give them(the bullies) the opportunity to do so. Sorry, but that comment is incorrect, and the people that I have seen dealing with this justto hit the ignore button, because the bullies are usually the popular kids.



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Mount Airy, MD pnh102 Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us said by Chubbysumo: everywhere is safe from cyberbullying. Just learn to hit the damn ignore button, and report shit on facebook and twitter. Dont friend the bullies, dont have a public profile where they can comment, and dont give them(the bullies) the opportunity to do so. Sorry, but that comment is incorrect, and the people that I have seen dealing with this just didn't want to hit the ignore button, because the bullies are usually the popular kids.

I always wondered if more kids completely cut off the bullies from their digital lives by doing what you suggest, would most bullies lose interest and simply move on to an easier target?

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Chubbysumo Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us said by pnh102: I always wondered if more kids completely cut off the bullies from their digital lives by doing what you suggest, would most bullies lose interest and simply move on to an easier target? they do lose interest, really fast. Also, they are going for the reaction, and if you dont give them that reaction, or dont give them the means to get it, then you or whoever is almost instantly removed as a target.

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Hasn't anyone heard the old saying:

"Never start a fight. But always, ALWAYS finish one".



I guess people are too damn PC and Wimpy these days. I guess times have really changed... for the worse!Hasn't anyone heard the old saying:I guess people are too damn PC and Wimpy these days.



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said by pnh102: I agree with you that the law is stupid... but do schools really do anything about bullying? Back in my days when I got bullied they schools didn't care or do anything. For my parents, switching schools really wasn't an option either.



I am wondering if all of the news of suicides among bullying victims is a real uptick in suicides, or if there is just more reporting on this issue.





The route I took in my teen years was to strike back using humor. If you can make the bully look like an idiot in front of his/her peers and make their peers laugh WITH you rather than at you, the bullies inevitably learned to avoid me as they knew they were going to get themselves in over their heads and look the fool no matter what they did. Yes, I got AND GAVE a few thumpings along the way when there was no other choice, but found that tearing the bully down through humor worked to eventually end any interest they had in attacking me or even trying as time went by.



As an adult, I now get a kick out of anyone who can do the same and has resulted in a number of life-long friendships that started out differently...



Laws like this one are dangerous and ultimately useless as children will always work out their own pecking order no matter what the authorities try and do or the rules they try to enforce. One thing to keep in mind is the fact that going to authorities for help is seen as weakness in these peer groups and opens the child to even more harassment as troubling as that is to many. Also note that in fighting back, it is not always about an eye for an eye as that just encourages the bully in the first place - that is, if you play their game the way they play it, the child is just setting themselves up for more abuse as soon as the authority figures aren't around.The route I took in my teen years was to strike back using humor. If you can make the bully look like an idiot in front of his/her peers and make their peers laugh WITH you rather than at you, the bullies inevitably learned to avoid me as they knew they were going to get themselves in over their heads and look the fool no matter what they did. Yes, I got AND GAVE a few thumpings along the way when there was no other choice, but found that tearing the bully down through humor worked to eventually end any interest they had in attacking me or even trying as time went by.As an adult, I now get a kick out of anyone who can do the same and has resulted in a number of life-long friendships that started out differently...Laws like this one are dangerous and ultimately useless as children will always work out their own pecking order no matter what the authorities try and do or the rules they try to enforce.

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I would guess more reporting...

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said by TechyDad: Fighting back against bullies doesn't always work. When I was in high school, I was bullied by five or six kids who hung out as a group. One on one, I might have stood a chance, but one on six they would have pounded me into the dirt. Then, I'd have been bullied AND beaten up. said by TechyDad: People *should* go to the schools for help. The schools have a responsibility to stop bullying and keep kids safe. If they don't then they are failing at their duty and should be reported to the Superintendent, school board, and any other government officials. Parents should go as high as possible to make sure their kids are safe and free to learn without being harassed. said by TechyDad: At my son's old school, a kid punched him in the stomach and sent him to the nurse.



When I went to school there were two things that came out being punched in the stomach: 1) you learned to avoid it next time 2) after you recovered you went and punched that kid in the stomach or kicked him in the nuts (your choice really). Problem solved. (And no I didn't go to a "inner city" bring your gun to school kind of a place) said by TechyDad: When I spoke with the principal, she kept changing her story and finally claimed my son "isn't the type of kid who would be bullied." She was trying to sweep it under the rug. (Ignoring the problem is easier than fixing it.) So we pulled our son from that school, went to the superintendent and got him transferred to another school where he's doing much better. said by TechyDad: Kids who are being bullied need support networks and that includes parents and school administrators. At which point you go get five or six of your friends and beat the living crap out of them. If you didn't have five or six friends when you were in school then maybe you should analyze your own personality.And you know what happens then? Your kid gets labeled a cry-baby, mama's boy or a million other things and will get bullied even more.Kids fighting?!? Say it isn't so! What is this world coming to.When I went to school there were two things that came out being punched in the stomach: 1) you learned to avoid it next time 2) after you recovered you went and punched that kid in the stomach or kicked him in the nuts (your choice really). Problem solved. (And no I didn't go to a "inner city" bring your gun to school kind of a place)Until the kids there figure out that his is prime target for bullying. See that you don't run out of schools.Who are your kids going to turn to when the have a dick boss in their future jobs. Mommy isn't going to be there to help, and they never learned how to deal with the bully themselves.

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Everyone in this thread who is equating rape, assault or anything similar to bullying is insane. If someone gets raped in school that's still rape, not bullying, and I am in no way equating the two. One can be resolved by kids, the other NEEDS authorities. If you can't figure out which one is which, you have a problem.



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USA TechyDad Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us You specifically said that if a bullied kid couldn't round up five or six friends to help him beat up the bully and his friends, then perhaps the bullied kid was to blame. The problem with this is that it places the blame on the bullied and completely exempts the bully. Bullying IS assault, albeit often only psychological in nature.



It also assumes that everyone is capable of physical confrontation. What if the bully and his friends are football players and the bullied and his friends are in the chess club? A physical fight will favor the bullies and won't result in the bullying stopping. The bullied will just wind up beaten up and bullied.



In addition, since bullying might be a psychological assault on the bullied, a bullied kid who physically strikes back will be the one who gets in trouble. The bullied kid will be suspended for fighting while the bully will laugh with his friends.



Kids need to know that they can rely on parents and school administrators to help them out. Doing so isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of maturity. It's a sign that you have a support network to rely on. Denying kids this support network by calling them cry-baby, mama's boy, etc for daring to talk to adults about the situation only leads to suicides and/or school shootings.

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join:2002-11-27 Dodge Premium Member Re: Bullying Will Always Be With Us said by TechyDad: You specifically said that if a bullied kid couldn't round up five or six friends to help him beat up the bully and his friends, then perhaps the bullied kid was to blame. The problem with this is that it places the blame on the bullied and completely exempts the bully. Bullying IS assault, albeit often only psychological in nature.



I didn't say they were to blame, I said most kids have enough friends. And to think of it, bullies usually (not always) don't travel in packs. said by TechyDad: Kids need to know that they can rely on parents and school administrators to help them out. Doing so isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of maturity. It's a sign that you have a support network to rely on. said by TechyDad: Denying kids this support network by calling them cry-baby, mama's boy, etc for daring to talk to adults about the situation only leads to suicides and/or school shootings.

This is what I said: "At which point you go get five or six of your friends and beat the living crap out of them. If you didn't have five or six friends when you were in school then maybe you should analyze your own personality."I didn't say they were to blame, I said most kids have enough friends. And to think of it, bullies usually (not always) don't travel in packs.Sure they can. School administration care about money and money only. So if their star quarterback that every college is pining over is beating up chess club, they will look the other way. Your own argument proves that they don't care, hence you had to switch schools.If that was the cause of school shootings and suicides, I don't think anyone would have survived when I went to school.



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I am pretty sure we can give this agency their own budget and hundreds of jobs will be created as a result. Maybe we can start a new government agency to fight the "War on annoyances" since we have succeeded in curing all other issues such as the "War on drugs" and the "War on terror" and the "War on Poverty" and "War on ...." just see for a listing » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li ··· concepts I am pretty sure we can give this agency their own budget and hundreds of jobs will be created as a result.



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I am pretty sure we can give this agency their own budget and hundreds of jobs will be created as a result.

We can call this the "War on unemployment".



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Evans, GA 1 edit Immer Premium Member You guys should really read the Bill.... Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:



Section 1. Section 13-2916, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended to read:



START_STATUTE13-2916. Use of an electronic or digital device to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend; classification; definition



A. It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use any electronic or digital device and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person. It is also unlawful to otherwise disturb by repeated anonymous electronic or digital communications the peace, quiet or right of privacy of any person at the place where the communications were received.



B. Any offense committed by use of an electronic or digital device as set forth in this section is deemed to have been committed at either the place where the communications originated or at the place where the communications were received.



C. Any person who violates this section is guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor.



D. For the purposes of this section, "electronic or digital device" includes any wired or wireless communication device and multimedia storage device. END_STATUTE



Sec. 2. Section 13-2923, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended to read:



START_STATUTE13-2923. Stalking; classification; definitions



A. A person commits stalking if the person intentionally or knowingly engages in a course of conduct that is directed toward another person and if that conduct either:



1. Would cause a reasonable person to fear for the person's safety or the safety of that person's immediate family member and that person in fact fears for the person's safety or the safety of that person's immediate family member.



2. Would cause a reasonable person to fear death of that person or that person's immediate family member and that person in fact fears death of that person or that person's immediate family member.



B. Stalking under subsection A, paragraph 1 of this section is a class 5 felony. Stalking under subsection A, paragraph 2 of this section is a class 3 felony.



C. For the purposes of this section:



1. "Course of conduct":



(a) Means any of the following:



(i) Maintaining visual or physical proximity to a specific person or directing verbal, written or other threats, whether express or implied, to a specific person on two or more occasions over a period of time, however short. , but



(ii) Using any electronic, digital or global positioning system device to surveil a specific person or a specific person's internet or wireless activity continuously for twelve hours or more or on two or more occasions over a period of time, however short.



(b) Does not include constitutionally protected activity or other activity authorized by law, the other person, the other person's authorized representative or if the other person is a minor, the minor's parent or guardian.



2. "Immediate family member" means a spouse, parent, child or sibling or any other person who regularly resides in a person's household or resided in a person's household within the past six months.



Edit: for those who struggle with English reading comprehension, let's write paragraph A differently: It is unlawful for any person to use any electronic or digital device and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend.



It is also unlawful to otherwise disturb by repeated anonymous electronic or digital communications the peace, quiet or right of privacy of any person at the place where the communications were received. the hyperbolic "summary" in the OP is ridiculous. As for the "war on bullying"... we've lost our way as a nation. Parents need to support their kids and be the foundation for how kids learn to deal with life (to include bullies). If the government could police it's own bullies (politics) then I might be inclined to believe it could be legislated away. Anyway... hopefully seeing the copy/pasted text (from the OP's link) may improve the level of discussion on this "pseudo-news" article.Edit: for those who struggle with English reading comprehension, let's write paragraph A differently:There has to be a specific action... combined with intent. So you can still be generally disgusting... just don't point it at anyone. The only thing you'll loose is the power to savagely troll someone online.

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92361 biochemistry Premium Member The bill violates itself This bill has annoyed, offended, harassed and actually terrified me. Can we now arrest everyone whose signature is found on it?



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That would pretty much eliminate the entire body of the speech of politicians, political talk show hosts and campaign ads.

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Any comments coming from the opposition party can be considered 'annoying' or 'offensive' and subject to censorship (the primary idea of the bill)



Just cut all fiber feeds going in and out of Arizona and let them run their own private self contained internet.

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Glendale, AZ nonymous (banned) Member Re: Arizona... a police state said by etaadmin: within a police state.



Any comments coming from the opposition party can be considered 'annoying' or 'offensive' and subject to censorship (the primary idea of the bill)



Just cut all fiber feeds going in and out of Arizona and let them run their own private self contained internet.

So we can not do an online recall petition against Jan Brewer?



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Netgear R8000

IowaCowboy Premium Member Having been a victim of bullying I was a victim of bullying back in my middle school years back in my hometown of Cedar Rapids, Iowa. When I would ask the staff/administration to intervene, they refused to intervene.



I hated that school and I have painful memories of those days and the fallout (which I am not going to go into detail about because it is a private matter for me). Now I live in Springfield, MA which is not too far from South Hadley which made the news when Phoebe Prince tragically took her own life due to the painful effects of bullying.



No matter how unconstitutional they are, I fully support efforts to stop bullying because it hurts. Back in my middle school years, the Internet was in its infancy but I am sure the problem of bullying is ten times worse today than it was 15 years ago.



djdanska

Rudie32

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San Diego, CA djdanska Premium Member when did AZ get so wacky! Good luck with that AZ!



openupshop

join:2000-11-25

Chandler, AZ openupshop Member Backwards State With A Dumb Broad Governor I should know I live here, this lady is so backwards it's unbelievable.



She made it legal to carry a concealed weapon without a permit. Anyone can carry a gun and hide it.



She made fireworks legal in the desert LMAO



Barron

Laissez les bons temps rouler!

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Litchfield Park, AZ Barron Premium Member AZ People Respond! Send an email to the Gov and tell her to veto.

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member GOP is ironic or mornic The so called party of the Constitution seems to like to wipe it's ass with it often. Except when it comes to the 2nd Amendment.



Fnord

@verizon.net Fnord Anon Re: GOP is ironic or mornic Problem is, this bill got across-the-board bipartisan support.



Chad Campbell Minority Leader Cosponsor

Steve Farley Assistant Minority Leader Cosponsor

Anna Tovar Minority Whip Cosponsor



That's pretty much bipartisan support if I've ever seen it.



DaveDude

No Fear

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New Jersey 1 recommendation DaveDude to 88615298

Member to 88615298

In reality only Libertarians understand the constitution, the rest are all opportunist.



pjcamp

@spelman.edu pjcamp Anon we're safe, then because Jan Brewer is illiterate.



bostechie

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Boston, MA bostechie Premium Member Village idiots must be held accountable When legislators (aka, village idiots) sponsor a bill that is so blatantly destined for failure in the courts, waste the time of the legislature away from pressing agenda, they should be held accountable. Make them pay the court & lawyers fees when it does get struck down.



Them's thar in Arizona has been gettin inta somethin what's killin them's braincells.



dano9898

@qwest.net dano9898 Anon Ahh, so happy I left AZ Arizona - the state that sticks it's nose in every other states/countries business, when it has plenty of problems of it's own. To me, with the tax rates in AZ, you would expect nice roads, schools, etc - instead, I guess the money evaporates on the way to the capital - or maybe building super highways all over Phoenix, while Tucson remains a ghetto for the most part.



Seriously though, AZ is the kitty box for California, and should concentrate on their own lands and issues.



Immer

Gentleman

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Evans, GA Immer Premium Member Re: Ahh, so happy I left AZ said by dano9898 : Arizona - the state that sticks it's nose in every other states/countries business, when it has plenty of problems of it's own. To me, with the tax rates in AZ, you would expect nice roads, schools, etc - instead, I guess the money evaporates on the way to the capital - or maybe building super highways all over Phoenix, while Tucson remains a ghetto for the most part.



Seriously though, AZ is the kitty box for California, and should concentrate on their own lands and issues.

how does any of this aimless rambling have anything to do with the bill?