kendralynora:

whereforeartthouwolves:

kendralynora: whereforeartthouwolves: gambitia: This is Thin Privilege: It’s been said many times on here, but thin privilege is finding… rhythmicamber: ladyknucklesinshape: shredded-sorostitute: thisisthinprivilege: It’s been said many times on here, but thin privilege is finding clothing in your size for a reasonable price.

I am a size 26-28 (depending on the fit, I can even get into a 24) with a 3x torso

I also am cursed with a small chest (I call it a curse because I admit to wanting my boobs just a little… Your bras aren’t more expensive because companies assume you’re fat; it’s because it’s not a common size so they have to be custom ordered. That costs the company MORE money than mass producing and they don’t mass produce because since it’s not a common size, they would lose money. This is true for most of your clothing problem. It’s not a conspiracy against fat people; it’s called cost of goods. Seriously; get over your bitterness. Not everything is a conspiracy. Now though I do agree about the cost of goods thing, skinny/average people clothing is ALWAYS cheaper than fat people clothes. It makes no sense that I have to pay anywhere from 2-5 dollars more than what a skinny person would buy.



Also to put it like this, if I go into a sports store and want to buy nice looking workout clothes I am basically shit out of luck because Nike and them don’t really make work out clothes for fat people for the same amount that a skinny person would fit.



THAT is the underlying issue. Yeah I understand basic economics but at the end of the day, you would make MORE money providing for fat folks. The company needs more material to make a bigger size, that’s why clothes are a little more expensive. And to be honest with you, nike is looking for the athletic build, not “fat” build, kind of client. They make sportswear. It’s great if you want to wear nike and you want to train, but not many big people do train, hence it being hard to find a fitting nike shirt. It isn’t “thin privilege”. It’s business and targeting a certain clientele. You know how much extra material is needed for a plus-size garment? Not much—maybe a half-yard to a yard-and-a-half difference depending on the item. At what clothing companies get their yardage for, this is nothing. Certainly not enough to warrant the price hikes usually seen in plus-size clothing. Additionally, clothes manufacturers have no problem at all rolling the costs of xxs-xl clothing into a set price. There’s an appreciable difference in yardage needed for an XXS shirt than for an XL shirt—comparable to the extra yard needed to go from XL to plus-size—, yet companies do not charge any more for an XL than an XXS. This is because the price of yardage is averaged across the sizes. Averaging prices across XXS—4XL instead of XXS-XL would result in a negligible price hike. Gonna need a citation for “not many big people want to train”, because I know quite a few. Fuck, I’m an 18—a mere two sizes bigger than the ‘average’ woman—and I can find dick-all for nice exercise gear, Nike or no. It’s either thick sleep pants or expensive specialty store items. I don’t care what Nike does as an individual company—they’re allowed to do whatever the hell they want—but (a) I’m allowed to question their decisions, and (b) it gets pretty fucking old when not just Nike, but no major exercise wear maker makes things I can wear. Training for a 5K gets old in too-long thrift store sweatpants. If you don’t think that clothing companies actively discriminate against fat customers then you’re not paying attention. I’m very conflicted over this whole post, so I’m only going to mention this one thing. Please don’t call it “Thin Privilege”, because a lot of us who fit into the “average clothing sizes” can do so because we work at it. Yes, some people are lucky and are naturally thin, but there are still a lot of us who work our asses off to stay whitin our “healthy body weight” so we can fit these clothing sizes. I don’t see it as a “privilege” that I can fit into a size 12 (at 6 feet tall), I see it as my “victory” for working hard; getting exercise and eating right. To me, “Thin opportunity” seems a more apt definition. “Privilege” sounds like a right that’s just handed out to people, it’s not earned. (BTW I am in no means impling that bigger people don’t “work at their bodies”, because I know that many do. But if you don’t work at all in keeping your weight down, I really don’t think you have the right to call “privilege” at those who do.) I think you don’t understand what being privileged means in the context of society. It shouldn’t be a privilege to wear clothing made for my body that doesn’t look like a sack (unless I want it to). I shouldn’t have to earn bodily respect from the media, doctors, clothing designers, or random strangers on the internet. Thin bodies are preferred and therefore rewarded, and so the system privileges people who fit into the increasingly narrow definition of thin or “average” (despite the fact that the actual average body size in the US is a 14, which we consider plus sized), and it doesn’t matter by what means they get there. It IS just “handed out”, to people who fit that category, and it doesn’t matter if you struggle to reduce your size or if you can’t gain a pound if you tried. Your body is a privileged body, and you will be treated with preference simply by merit of your looks. And if you think clothing designers give a hoot if you achieved that body through “healthy” means or by unhealthy means, then once again: you’re not paying attention. ((I’m going to ignore the fact that you are conflating thinness with fitness for now because it’s 2AM and I have class in the morning, but let me say this: exercising and eating healthy does NOT correlate directly with body size. Fat people can be fit and never lose a pound. Here’s 33 years worth of research to back that statement up. But more to the point, whatever a persons health status, they should have the right to bodily respect and clothing that fits without being charged a “fat tax” or discriminated against systematically and on a regular basis. You would think this is common sense, but alas…))

Okay. I think i understand this post a lot better now (probably cause I didn’t read it at 3:00am in the morning) I seriously just thought it was pointing fingers at people for falling within “average sizes”.) But I understand now (again, not reading it when I’m half asleep) that it talking about the industry only catering to the “average people”. Which I do agree with. I know many companies have come out and said that they don’t disigne for pluse-size.

I must say though, I hate the word “privilege’. i read it and cringe, because it’s thrown out all the time. And sometimes, when i hear it, then apply it to “my society”, it does not always make sense. But I can see what you mean here. Even i have to spend extra money on pants sometimes, because I have to go to a “long & tall” store. But I guess, personaly, i would not go around calling “average hight” girls “privileged”, but that could just be me, because by what you’re saing is that they would be when it comes to the industry.

btw I’m a strong believer at beauty at any size. Though, I feel most beautiful at an “average size”. Is it because of society? yes. Is it because of health (my curent diet of 2 years has diminished my headaches and stopped my migranes), yes!

but I was really not saying that I disagree with there needing to be more clothing at bigger sizes, at the same price, and just as nice (or nicer). I just didn’t talk about that. Because I’m absolutly onboard with that, I just hate the word ‘privilage’!!