EternaLEnVy Profile Joined February 2009 Canada 203 Posts #1 First off I would like to apologize to the fans, the dota community, and especially EG, the EMS staff, and Clairvoyance for affecting them.



I would like to shed more light into how this all happened and perhaps some of the lingering questions people might have.



When we first signed up for NA EMS, we didn't do it to dodge the EU EMS, we actually thought we were able to play both (I personally think the EU EMS is easier to qualify from). This would be optimal as it gives good practice to our players that lack in competitive experience even if it means using standin for each tournament (no rtz or no bone7).



We found out that we were unable to attend the EU EMS due to not knowing about the A-series (apparently we could of but it would of been really weird, but at the time we didn't). We used standins all the way till the playoffs, where we ended up using bone on a smurf because we didn't think we would win without our full roster. Also we found it weird as our full roster could attend the lan had we qualified but they couldn't play the qualifier.



Honestly we thought light of the situation back then, we thought it's not like were ddossing or maphacking. However we wronged Dignitas, Artyk, and EG and the EMS admins. We took the oppurtunity away from Dignitas and Artyk. And EG and EMS are affected by the scandal that we are to be blamed for.



Most of all I apologize to Clairvoyance for using his account, he didn't truly understand the situation fully because I took the situation lightly. I don't think he deserves blame for this, its our mistake.



We ended up coming clean because after the tournament the situation was escalating beyond what we had expected and we realized what we had done was major. I would also like to mention that RTZ was a major force in making us come clean and felt guilty right after the tournament had ended right away.





Progamer Hell in my head

EternaLEnVy Profile Joined February 2009 Canada 203 Posts #2 Ahh, if an admin can change the title to KP.EternaLEnVy's statement for EMS that would be great sry Progamer Hell in my head

Sn0_Man Profile Joined October 2012 Tebellong 31461 Posts Last Edited: 2013-06-11 18:36:11 #3



Next, Kennigit quite recently stated that you would NOT have been allowed to play in the LAN event with your full team had you qualified with an NA standin. Everybody wants some kind of proof that you were told you could



GL First, nice to see a statement.Next, Kennigit quite recently stated that you would NOT have been allowed to play in the LAN event with your full team had you qualified with an NA standin. Everybody wants some kind of proof that you were told you couldGL Moderator SCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302

Kild Profile Joined February 2010 United States 3 Posts #4 So was Bone7 not the Standin for every other game? r1ch is da best

acidviper Profile Joined July 2010 20 Posts #5 You should just retire EE. You claim you work the hardest, but you are never going to get invited to the International after this.



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aintz Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 1849 Posts #6 EE making drama everywhere he goes.

andyrau Profile Joined December 2010 9884 Posts #7 rtz

what a sweetheart :3 "Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions

SushilS Profile Joined November 2010 188 Posts #8 Its ok man... Dunno bout others but I gotta tell you that you are awesome... And pls dont disband Kaipi...

Learn the lessons and move on! iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.

Unleashing Profile Joined March 2011 Denmark 11285 Posts #9 The way CWM and bone7 handled this whole thing was god awful. Seriously made it hard to not just lose any remaining respect for your team. From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!

OpticalShot Profile Joined October 2009 Canada 37 Posts #10 Thanks for the clarifications, please don't rush things if you want yourself and the team to succeed in the future. [TLMS] REBOOT

aycheff Profile Joined February 2010 United States 50 Posts #11



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"ESL should go suck a dick" real good way to get things in your favor You guys really need to get CWM in check, he's killing you guys"ESL should go suck a dick" real good way to get things in your favor hf // yeahyeahyeahhh // Y.S-Y

ilmeeni Profile Joined July 2012 Afghanistan 12 Posts #12 Well at the very least you seem to acknowledge what you did was wrong, something that cannot be said for your teammates CWM and the other random Romanian guy, who've been making toxic as fuck comments.



For everyone saying this is not cheating I'll leave a definition off of The Free Dictionary:



To cheat

1) To act dishonestly; practice fraud

2) To violate the rules deliberately; as in a game

Acrofales Profile Joined August 2010 Spain 355 Posts #13 On June 12 2013 03:33 Sn0_Man wrote:

First, nice to see a statement.



Next, Kennigit stated that you would NOT have been allowed to play in the LAN event with your full team had you qualified with an NA standin. Everybody wants some kind of proof that you were told you could



GL First, nice to see a statement.Next, Kennigit stated that you would NOT have been allowed to play in the LAN event with your full team had you qualified with an NA standin. Everybody wants some kind of proof that you were told you couldGL

Does it really matter? All that is really relevant is that they believed they could.



OT: good to see you're taking responsibility, but I honestly think KP has lost pretty much all credibility with this stupid move. While you're saying it was your idea, etc. etc. ait takes (at least) 6 people to go along with this plan. I hve no idea what the fallout will be, but any sympathy KP was gaining from me with interesting strats and good play, has been instantly lost. Cheating is cheating, and however much you justify it, it is still cheating. Does it really matter? All that is really relevant is that they believed they could.OT: good to see you're taking responsibility, but I honestly think KP has lost pretty much all credibility with this stupid move. While you're saying it was your idea, etc. etc. ait takes (at least) 6 people to go along with this plan. I hve no idea what the fallout will be, but any sympathy KP was gaining from me with interesting strats and good play, has been instantly lost. Cheating is cheating, and however much you justify it, it is still cheating.

SilentchiLL Profile Joined July 2010 Germany 60 Posts #14

He said quite a lot of stuff that contradicted with the statements of officials and pros alike

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416791#10

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416791#12 What do you say about the tantrum CWM threw in his steam when this came out?He said quite a lot of stuff that contradicted with the statements of officials and pros alike possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX

Grettin Profile Joined April 2010 10329 Posts #15 On June 12 2013 03:39 aycheff wrote:

You guys really need to get CWM in check, he's killing you guys



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"ESL should go suck a dick" real good way to get things in your favor You guys really need to get CWM in check, he's killing you guys"ESL should go suck a dick" real good way to get things in your favor



Classic CWM. Classic CWM. "If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu

Seraphic Profile Joined September 2010 United States 2218 Posts Last Edited: 2013-06-11 18:42:39 #16 I still don't like you EE. At least that was honest, so I'll give you props for that.



Edit: Ya you guys as a team will never be respected if CMW shits all over what's left of your integrity. And you wonder why CMW wasn't on a team. lol Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3

acidviper Profile Joined July 2010 20 Posts #17 On June 12 2013 03:39 Acrofales wrote:

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On June 12 2013 03:33 Sn0_Man wrote:

First, nice to see a statement.



Next, Kennigit stated that you would NOT have been allowed to play in the LAN event with your full team had you qualified with an NA standin. Everybody wants some kind of proof that you were told you could



GL First, nice to see a statement.Next, Kennigit stated that you would NOT have been allowed to play in the LAN event with your full team had you qualified with an NA standin. Everybody wants some kind of proof that you were told you couldGL

Does it really matter? All that is really relevant is that they believed they could.



OT: good to see you're taking responsibility, but I honestly think KP has lost pretty much all credibility with this stupid move. While you're saying it was your idea, etc. etc. ait takes (at least) 6 people to go along with this plan. I hve no idea what the fallout will be, but any sympathy KP was gaining from me with interesting strats and good play, has been instantly lost. Cheating is cheating, and however much you justify it, it is still cheating. Does it really matter? All that is really relevant is that they believed they could.OT: good to see you're taking responsibility, but I honestly think KP has lost pretty much all credibility with this stupid move. While you're saying it was your idea, etc. etc. ait takes (at least) 6 people to go along with this plan. I hve no idea what the fallout will be, but any sympathy KP was gaining from me with interesting strats and good play, has been instantly lost. Cheating is cheating, and however much you justify it, it is still cheating.

Agree, go back to school. Leave this behind man no sponsor is going to want to be associated with you. Agree, go back to school. Leave this behind man no sponsor is going to want to be associated with you.

TheKefka Profile Joined March 2011 Croatia 943 Posts #18 I don't really see why everyone is making such a big deal about it. Cackle™

dizzy101 Profile Joined August 2010 Netherlands 547 Posts #19 Good statement.



Knock it off with the bashing already. There's few pro players in the scene who've never made mistakes like these.

zachmok Profile Joined May 2013 Malaysia 43 Posts #20 Yo Envy, I'm a fan of Kaipi, root for ya'll whenever you all play and would really enjoy watching #roadtoti4 come to fruition. It would be a shame if something non dota skill related prevent ya'll from TI or any major competition again. You and pieliedie as the leaders should really have a talk with the team.

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