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Delivered-To: john.podesta@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.171.43 with SMTP id ar11cs24563vdc; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.24.210 with SMTP id w18mr30918912vdf.21.1321205803329; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:36:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <Justin@presidentclinton.com> Received: from mail.clintonemail.com (ool-18bbeabb.static.optonline.net. [24.187.234.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u10si4037118vcf.36.2011.11.13.09.36.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 24.187.234.187 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of Justin@presidentclinton.com) client-ip=24.187.234.187; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 24.187.234.187 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of Justin@presidentclinton.com) smtp.mail=Justin@presidentclinton.com Received: from CLNTINET08.clinton.local ([fe80::3c3c:8a15:4320:37a9]) by CLNTINET08.clinton.local ([fe80::3c3c:8a15:4320:37a9%11]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:36:42 -0500 From: Justin Cooper <Justin@presidentclinton.com> To: Doug Band <doug@presidentclinton.com>, "'cheryl.mills@gmail.com'" <cheryl.mills@gmail.com>, "'john.podesta@gmail.com'" <john.podesta@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:36:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Proposed Final for Infrastructure Memo Thread-Topic: Proposed Final for Infrastructure Memo Thread-Index: AcyiI/axh0KVSEzlQOKNBFsnw1lkqQAAFCOBAAGhzGg= Message-ID: <786762D781A7FF4FAC9060892B40448822791A5954@CLNTINET08.clinton.local> In-Reply-To: <786762D781A7FF4FAC9060892B40448822792CF15F@CLNTINET08.clinton.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Let me preface this by saying I am hardly awake.=20 I echo dougs comments below.=20 Option 4 and 5 are straight forward.=20 Options 1, 2 and 3 are not.=20 It is not clear how these alternatives would practically work. It is not at= all clear how we would interface with the other people involved. And it do= es not address how wjcs activities interface with each other or how this st= ructure resolves his own conflicts. Further I'd does not address how to res= olve percieved conflicts which might occur with Teneo. Are Teneo clients as= ked not to ever engage in the foundation? Are foundation donors not to eng= age with Teneo? Can WJC's private funders engage with the foundation etc.=20 I will work with Doug on some versions of 1 2 and 3 that are more practical= in the day to day.=20 I am on a plane till Monday, not in NY till Tuesday, and the only person st= affing wjc on this trip so we may need some time to regroup. =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Band Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:49 AM=0A= To: 'cheryl.mills@gmail.com' <cheryl.mills@gmail.com>; Justin Cooper; 'john= .podesta@gmail.com' <john.podesta@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Proposed Final for Infrastructure Memo Thx Got it Will work on it with cooper who is on a plane for next 20 hours on and off ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Mills [mailto:cheryl.mills@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:47 AM=0A= To: Doug Band; Justin Cooper; john.podesta@gmail.com <john.podesta@gmail.co= m> Subject: Re: Proposed Final for Infrastructure Memo Good copy - suggest an alternate framework (this document reflects one we discussed last saturday) - my expectation would be that this model b/cs model for all the other similarly situated folks - so template would apply equally but we can make that more transparent. Many of issues you flag will get captured by corporate audit and receive common policy application as against all entities/individuals with multiple lines. But the real question we should know answer to b/f this goes forward is what do you want as the structure - w/o knowing that, this exeercise is academic and w/ that we can guide and shape this better. Cdm On 11/13/11, Doug Band <doug@presidentclinton.com> wrote: > I'm taking the day with my family in pa and need time with this document > I propose a call later this evening or tomorrow > > In short, and somewhat disjointed comments here > > I think this misses the practical realities on how the place operates as > well as puts one way of treating me and justin and another for everyone > else, including wjc and cvc > > Justin and I already are not employees of the foundation > We are employees of cesc > But we could make it more official as advisors to it or something > Otherwise, raising money for it would be odd with no connectivity > > As you both have seen by my memo, you now understand the facts of teneo > How then do we go through an exercise like this and wjc doesn't as he is = far > more conflicted every single day in what he does? Why not apply the > structure you set up for him to this situation? > > Ira runs chai and has been doing outside consulting all these years > Bob harrison has a ton of goldman stock and makes decisions on goldmans > engagement/role in cgi > Valerie uses office space of a donor in chicago > Bruce was paid by his law firm for years and may still be > People sit on boards, for profit ones and not for profit ones > I am sure there are many others we don't know about > > Cvc uses office space to run a business so when I'm on the phone with bri= an > williams and he raises her paid personal relationship and intertwines tha= t > with the foundation int wjc is doing on the book > > I just don't think any of this is right and that we should be treated thi= s > way when no one else is only bc cvc has nothing better to do and need > justify her existence. It is as though we have done something wrong and a > document like this only furthers that notion and thus, I'm not ok with it= . > > I could see a structure where justin doesn't do finances > We both become advisers or consultants to the foundation, officially > Wjc has a contractual consultant relationship with teneo, nothing else > Not sure how to characterize or link the teneo raising millions for the > foundation relationship > We have a ceo and structure that all of these things go through such as, > Cvc's activities, using office space, ira consulting, a teneo client > intersecting with the foundation, etc. Perhaps an ethics officer like sta= te > has, which can be yet another staff person I get to raise the money to > pay..... > Decision making is somehow decentralized > > Teneo is the only one of any of those that are additive to the foundation= . > Ira doesn't get dow corning or whoever he advises to donate nor does bob = get > goldman to do much. Everyone takes, everyone, except we are the ones who = do > everything back to him > . > I have partners at teneo as you know and they don't want any part of this > managing wjc concept so that need be removed entirely. The only relations= hip > teneo should have is contractual w wjc and him as an advisor, the same as= he > does for becker and casey etc > > This seems to be more about lines and authority and decision making and I > think we propose them one plan we all come up with that addresses all of = the > above and covers everyone, evenly and comprehensively. > > Cdm, you remember the long debate we had about whether I should even incl= ude > wjc in teneo. The notion that its built on him is ridiculous. > > Our conversation with wjc over dinner was in a very different place and > according to him, he wants things to go back to normal. So I understand i= t, > this is primarily to appease cvc I presume? > > But we all know what this is actually about and thus overeacting, hurting > the foundation, impairing teneo's business etc > Won't end well > > Justy need chime in here > > From: Cheryl Mills [mailto:cheryl.mills@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 09:06 AM > To: Justin Cooper; Doug Band > Cc: john.podesta@gmail.com <john.podesta@gmail.com> > Subject: Proposed Final for Infrastructure Memo > > Doug/Justin > > Attached is the revised proposed final draft of the infrastructure memo. > > John has given his comments which are incorporated. > > If you could give me yours, I will put in final and circulate it to the f= our > of us and the President and his family. I also would share an fyi copy w= ith > Victoria and Jennifer. > > thanks. > > cdm > --=20 Sent from my mobile device