Savage MKII FV-SR

Savage is well known for its line of centerfire and rimfire rifles. In my opinion the "sleeper" of the rimfires is the current AccuTrigger MKII FV-SR. This short, handy, very accurate, and relatively inexpensive rifle is a joy to own and shoot. Not to mention their first rate customer service.

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General Information

The MKII FV-SR as delivered

SKU: 28702

Caliber: .22RF

Action: Bolt action. 5 (furnished) or 10 rd detachable box magazine. Enlarged bolt knob.

Overall length: 35.25"

Barrel length: 16.5" heavy barrel with a 1:16 RH twist. Threaded muzzle with protective end cap (1/2-28).

Weight (with no accessories): 5.5 lb

Finish: Black Matte

Stock: Synthetic Black Matte with front and rear QD swivels.

Sights: None. Furnished with a Weaver rail.

Trigger: AccuTrigger. User adjustable between 2.5 and 3.5 pounds.

Accessories Provided: Trigger adjustment tool, Allen wrench, security padlock, manual.

Field Reports

This little gem is pretty much ready to go out of the box with the exception that the ones I have seen are pretty much free from any lube. As with any new firearm it's probably a good idea to disassemble, clean everything including the bore, and lubricate before its first use.

Reports on earlier versions noted that the rail mount screws were frequently loose as received but current samples seem to be tight and secure. If yours is, a little Loc-Tite fixes things.

The stock on the current versions has a fully floated barrel with no forearm contact, an improvement over some of the earlier versions where there was some interference, but the stock is still not fully stiff. This bothers some people.

The finish on the current version is excellent as opposed to some complaints about earlier rifles but there are still a couple of rough spots that need to be deburred internally--typical of all brands of firearms these days.

There have been some reports of problems with magazines not feeding properly but again current magazines are well built and seem to feed well. While a 10 round magazine is available it extends too far below the rifle to be really useful.

Several commentators have noted that stock drop is a little severe, resulting in more of a "chin weld" than a "cheek weld" especially with anything other than very low rings. Depending on your build and scope rings some padding may be needed for best eye placement. An accessory cheek piece would be nice to have available. A redesigned stiffer plastic stock with less drop and a stiffer forearm would be welcomed and would keep the weight down compared to wood aftermarket stocks.

The threaded muzzle accepts 1/2-28 threaded accessories, including suppressors. Now if .22 RF suppressors weren't so expensive, not to mention the $200 NFA tax ....

Tips & Tricks

Screw Torque

Factory torque specification for the action screws is 15 INCH /pounds

Scoping the MKII FV-SR

While some folks will spend more on their scope and rings than the rifle itself cost, most of us can't afford that. In the interest of keeping the package costs reasonable we looked for some low cost options and decided on a BSA Sweet 22, 3 x 9, 40 mm, side focus scope with 1/4 MOA adjustment, and the parallax adjustment runs from about 8 yards to "infinity." While BSA doesn't generally have a reputation for exceptional quality or durability, the current version of this scope has been a pleasant surprise. Beautiful matte black finish (the matches the rifle's finish nicely), very crisp optics, and a duplex reticle that has a fine center cross hair. The vertical adjustment knob is calibrated for the drops of 36, 38, and 40 grain ammunition, but these are basically estimates due to variances in the ammo and velocity obtained so it's nice but not to be relied on. It comes with a set of metal(!) screw-in lens caps and a very nice screw-in metal(!) lens hood. If it is as durable as it looks then BSA has really gotten their act together on this scope. So far we have been very pleased.

The Butler Creek #20 (eye) and #29 (obj) covers fit this current version of the scope.

According to the factory, the reticle dimensions at 4X are: thick line, 2 moa; thin line, .75 moa; and the space between thick lines, 30 moa. At At the various powers available that translates as shown in the table below.

BSA Sweet 22 Reticle Subtensions in MOA Magnification Thick Line Thin Line Space Between Thick Lines 3 2.7 1.0 40 4 2.0 .75 30 5 1.6 .60 24 6 1.3 .50 20 7 1.1 .43 17 8 1 .38 15 9 .89 .33 13

For rings we selected a set of of Leapers UTG low mounts. While inexpensive, once mounted on the rifle's rail they fit tightly and a check with an alignment rod showed as good an alignment and even contact as I have seen anywhere. My only complaint is that the cross bolt is round in cross section rather than flat which handles recoil better, but recoil really isn't an issue with a .22 rimfire. Just ensure that the cross bolts are against the front edge of the rail slots when mounting. (Scopes and rings want to move forward under recoil.) Their matte black finish matches the scope and rifle closely.

Installing A Ching Sling

The 3-point, fast loop-up Ching sling, is very popular on field rifles but requires a third center swivel stud. You can get your Ching sling from Andy's Leather (www.andysleather.com). Tell Andy that Fr. Frog sent you.

Installed mid-position swivel

To install the third swivel you will need the following items

Uncle Mikes 1/2" full thread (w/o enlarged shank) 10-32 swivel stud Brownells #080769131

also available in a single set from Midway as product #: 366960

Standard 10-32 nut to secure the stud

13/64" drill to drill clearance hole in magazine plate

#21 drill to drill a tapable hole in the stock

10-32 tap to thread the hole

Thread locking compound to secure the nut

Epoxy or a strong hardening glue to keep the swivel and nut from turning

Cold blue

Fine toothed hacksaw to trim the middle action stud (or can be done on a lathe.)

Remove the action from the stock, and the remove the magazine plate from the stock by unscrewing the small Phillips head screw Carefully drill out the small hole in the plate with the 13/64" drill, smooth the hole edges and touch up with the cold blue, and set aside. Carefully drill out the corresponding small hole in the stock with the #21 drill and tap the hole. Clean up the edge of the hole inside the stock. (The threading gives greater strength.) Place the magazine plate in position on the stock and carefully thread the swivel stud firmly into the hole and properly align it. Thread the 10-32 hex nut down onto the threaded stud and note how much, if any the threaded portion extends through the nut. Remove the stud and carefully trim the excess length so that when assembled the threaded stud is flush with the nut. (If you are careful you can trim in place with a Dremel tool and a grinding bit.) Reassemble the stud and plate to the stock, snugly screwing the stud in until properly aligned. Place a drop of thread locker on the threads and then holding the stud in alignment screw on the nut and firmly tighten. Secure the outside of the nut to the stock with glue or epoxy and allow to dry. Measure the height of the top of the nut from the stock material. Carefully remove the center action stud from the receiver and trim the amount above plus about 1/32 - 1/16" from the action stud with the hacksaw and cold blue the cut surface. You can also just trim the stud in a lathe to get a professional appearance. Replace the stud on the action. Assemble the rifle, torque the action screws to 15 inch/pounds and install your sling.

Trimmed center action stud Secured swivel stud nut (right)

Magazines

Magazines are frequently hard to find or "out of stock, so I recommend getting a couple as soon as you can. I personally prefer the 5 round magazines as the 10s stick out too far.

They are available in blue and stainless steel and the Savage part numbers are shown below.

Capacity Blued Stainless 5 90005 90007 10 20005 90008

Extraction Issues

If you have weak or poor extraction, the extractor spring clip has probably weakened or opened up. To fix, gently pry the clip off and remove the extractor and cartridge guide. Clean out the slots for these parts and ensure there are no burrs on either part. Do the same for the firing pin while things are apart. Then gently bend the two straight legs of the clip inward evenly, just a little. You don't have to bend very much and a factory new clip measures .480" at the outside of tip of the straight sections. The Savage part number is 702255.

Extractor spring clip

Install the firing pin and then install the clip with the notches towards the rear of the bolt, ensuring that it is fully seated. The clip should take a slight effort to push back on. Line up the notches in the clip with the slots and then insert the extractor into the left side (facing the bolt face) of the bolt face under the clip and push straight back into place. Repeat for the cartridge guide.

Bedding Issues

The topic of bedding a rifle is beyond the scope of this article, and information is available on it everywhere. In all the samples of this rifle that I have seen the barrel is free floated up to the receiver and the receiver seems to be well bedded for a commercial plastic stock. If you find yours isn't quite up to snuff a very neat fix can be done by using strips of foil duct tape such as the Nashua 332 Multipurpose Foil Tape (Home Depot sku #915245) on the stock areas corresponding to the lower sides and clear areas of the receiver. Once done, torque the action screws to 15 in/lb and verify that the barrel is still free floating for its full length by slipping a strip of paper or a business card down the barrel.

Bolt Lift and Smoothing

Because the rifle is in "tacticool" black the bolt has a dull matte finish that is draggy even when lubricated. Burnishing the bolt body with some 0000 steel wool and some oil or grease helps immensely as does lubing the bolt raceway in the receiver. The edges of the bolt handle clearance cut in the receiver are usually rather rough. Remove the bolt, stick a rag into the bolt way, and use a small stone to smooth both sides of the bolt way flats and their bottom and top edges. DO NOT touch the areas indicated with the blue arrow. It is not necessary to achieve a mirror shine, You just want to smooth the flats and remove burrs from their edges. I'm surprised this isn't done at the factory.

You can also disassemble the bolt, and polish the internal and external surfaces. More on that later.

Trigger Issues

The current MKII FV-SR is fitted with Savage's nifty AccuTrigger system, but the rimfire version does not seem as light nor as smooth as the center fire AccuTriggers. However this too can be taken care of as long as you are careful and understand what is what. (See below.)

How To Do It Instructions

These days, merely thinking about tweaking or tuning a firearms action or a trigger will usually void your warranty, cause infectious diseases, and set the world spiraling into "dramatic climate change" and cause the gruesome end of humanity. However, if you are reasonably intelligent, careful, understand firearms operation, and have some common sense (not all that common these days), you can safely do most tweaks yourself.

A lot of "gunsmithing" information is available on the Internet but what I have seen varies greatly in quality and accuracy. I have two verified accurate, well illustrated, and detailed documents in MS Word format on tuning the trigger and smoothing the bolt on the current version of the MKII FV-SR. They are unofficial and not approved or authorized by Savage.

They are probably applicable, with a little thought, to earlier versions of the MKII.) If you will send me $5 to cover duplicating and postage costs, your address, and a note stating that ...

The info will be used for your personal, non-commercial use only.

That you will not give it to anyone else.

That you are solely responsible for any damages done by following the information provided.

... I will send you both documents (total of 14 pages with illustrations). Requests without the disclaimer enclosed will be returned, less return postage. No exceptions.

Note that if you mess up, AccuTrigger parts are generally not available for replacement. You have been warned.

Please send requests to

John Schaefer

1365 S. Saddleback Dr.

Cottonwood, AZ 86326

Odds & Ends

Flash Suppressors

Because of the blinding flash and blast of the .22RF, and it being a black "tacticool" rifle with a 1/2 28 threaded barrel, one can fit any standard M16 flash or noise suppressor to the barrel. Because they are almost the same diameter as the MKII's barrel the standard M16A2 flash suppressors actually look rather nice, especially if finished to match the rifle. For some reason this flash hider seems to moderate the "muzzle blast" a little. You may need to use "peel washers" to get proper alignment. It does not seem to affect accuracy.

Standard thread protector M16 flash suppressor

Improving Ammunition

Match ammunition aside, it has been my observation that "standard velocity" rimfire ammunition is significantly more accurate beyond 35 - 40 yards than "high velocity" ammunition due to it's velocity going trans-sonic. However, even bulk HV .22 rimfire ammunition can be quite accurate if sorted by weight. Simply set up your digital scale and sort your ammo by weight in .1gr groups and then keep the batches separate. Doing this you'll be surprised just how much your groups shrink. The other thing is to sort by rim thickness, although this has a greater noticeable effect with match ammunition or previously weight sorted ammunition. SAAMI specifications are given below.

.22 Rimfire SAAMI Specifications Rim Thickness .036" Min

.043" Max Headspace .043" Min

.051"Max

Interestingly, actual rim thickness measured on live rounds seems to vary greatly. I have seen as low as .035" and as high as .048" with the majority falling in the .039" to .041" range. Ideally you want minimum headspace, but adjusting headspace on a .22RF is a non-trivial exercise so you usually just have to live with what you have.

Spare Magazine Carrier

You can take an inexpensive elastic rifle cartridge butt cuff and carefully cut the stitching between every two loops to make a very inexpensive on-gun magazine carrier that can carry several 5 or 10 round magazines. The one pictured was made from a $4.29 Allen buttstock cartridge carrier, from Amazon. After removing the appropriate stitches and positioning on the butt stock, mark where the swivel stud is located and burn a hole through the elastic with a soldering iron to melt the edges of the hole (to prevent unraveling).

22RF Informational Web Site

There is an excellent .22 rimfire technical site called "Rimfire Research and Developmen,t" run by Steve Boelter at www.rrdvegas.com. It was down for a while but it appears to active again. It is chock full of excellent, informative, and well researched and documented articles on everything from cleaning to ammunition modifications. The site's article on cleaning is also available at http://www.ssvtexel.nl/index.cfm?act=files.download&ui=C5C9D865-2200-0A21-B5F5CF897974784F as a pdf file.

After Market Triggers

Rifle Basix (eabco.com/Savage-Triggers.html) makes an excellent replacement for the Savage rimfire AccuTrigger (called the Savage Rimfire Adjustable Trigger or "RAT", that eliminates the inner AccuTrigger trigger lever and reportedly allows a pull weight of 1.25 to 4 lbs. It fits all AccuTrigger MKII rifles including the M93. They also have triggers for non-AccuTrigger Savage .22s

Ammunition

Match ammunition aside my favorite .22RF rounds are listed below but nowadays we grab what we can.

Federal 36 gr CPHP-HV bulk pack (#745) - 555 bulk pack

Federal 40 gr LRN Standard Velocity Gold Medal (#922A)

CCI MiniMag 40 gr CPRN-HV (#0030) or 36 gr CPHP-HV (#0031)

CCI 40 gr Quiet 22 (#960)

CCI Subsonic HP (#0056)

CCI 22Long CB 29 gr LRN (#0038)

CCI 40 gr LRN Standard Velocity (#0032)

CCI 45 gr LHP Suppressor (# 957)

Bullet Forming Tools

There are several bullet forming tools available for the .22RF that can uniform and reshape the lead bullet for better accuracy and terminal performance. PACO, D-Rock, and Walts all offer these tool. After playing with them I settled on the Waltz tool. While it is the most expensive it is, in my opinion, the handiest and easiest to use as it fits a standard reloading press and comes with a shell holder and 2 tip shapes (why you'd need more is beyond me). I have observed a definite and significant decrease in group size with most ammo using this tool. It works great in on of the LEE hand presses while watching TV.

The PACO tool while the simplest and least expensive uses a hammer to form the bullets and there is no positive stop to control the shaping. The D-Rock tool has numerous tip configuration but requires an arbor press to use, and I have never received any response from them to my numerous queries via email and postal mail.

The Waltz dies w/shell holder and tip punches Nose shapes from the Waltz die.

The Waltz die is available from

Neal B. Waltz

4105 Hyatt NW

Massillon, OH 44646

WALTZ@SSSNET.COM

After Market Stocks

Boyds (www.boydsgunstocks.com) make some very nice wood stocks, both laminated and solid, for the MKII rifles. They are available in numerous styles and colors, in both drop-in and semi-finished. They have bottom metal (which is required for the wood stocks. Note that their website is very slow.

Sharp Shooter's Supply (www.sharpshootersupply.com ) also has aftermarket wood stocks for the MKII that include bottom metal. They have stocks for all Model 93R, 93R17, Mark I and Mark II rimfire models.

Rheinland Arms (www.troupsystems.com) also offers an interesting stock for the MKII patterned after the Accuracy International sniper stock

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