Wolf Profile Blog Joined April 2010 Korea (South) 3276 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:08:17 #1





The King Sejong Station

Terran vs Zerg 1:4

Zerg vs Protoss 9:8

Protoss vs Terran 2:5

Terran vs Terran 0 Games

Protoss vs Protoss 10 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 4 Games





Yeonsu

Terran vs Zerg 3:1

Zerg vs Protoss 3:6

Protoss vs Terran 8:5

Terran vs Terran 2 Games

Protoss vs Protoss 13 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 4 Games





Frost LE

Terran vs Zerg 4:1

Zerg vs Protoss 8:8

Protoss vs Terran 8:5

Terran vs Terran 2 Games

Protoss vs Protoss 13 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 1 Game





Outboxer

Terran vs Zerg 7:3

Zerg vs Protoss 4:4

Protoss vs Terran 5:5

Terran vs Terran 3 Games

Protoss vs Protoss 6 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 5 Games





Polar Night

Terran vs Zerg 2:0

Zerg vs Protoss 0-7

Protoss vs Terran 2:2

Terran vs Terran 1 Game

Protoss vs Protoss 7 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 0 Games





Habitation Station

Terran vs Zerg 3:1

Zerg vs Protoss 0:4

Protoss vs Terran 2:4

Terran vs Terran 0 Games

Protoss vs Protoss 3 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 2 Games





Round 2 Maps Overall

Terran vs Zerg 20:10

Zerg vs Protoss 24:37

Protoss vs Terran 25:28

Terran vs Terran 9 Games

Protoss vs Protoss 43 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 16 Games





Proleague 2014 Total Map Stats

Terran vs Zerg 23:12

Zerg vs Protoss 34:44

Protoss vs Terran 29:33

Terran vs Terran 9 Games

Protoss vs Protoss 50 Games

Zerg vs Zerg 19 Games



Edit: Source sheet

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Edit 2: Thought I'd share some map data from SPL before we go into some new ladder maps (and also Round 3). These stats include everything EXCEPT the Round 2 Playoff Finals. I'm taking them all from a data sheet that our stats wizard (Jihwan Yi) made for me. Some pretty interesting info in here. Have fun with it.Terran vs Zerg 1:4Zerg vs Protoss 9:8Protoss vs Terran 2:5Terran vs Terran 0 GamesProtoss vs Protoss 10 GamesZerg vs Zerg 4 GamesTerran vs Zerg 3:1Zerg vs Protoss 3:6Protoss vs Terran 8:5Terran vs Terran 2 GamesProtoss vs Protoss 13 GamesZerg vs Zerg 4 GamesTerran vs Zerg 4:1Zerg vs Protoss 8:8Protoss vs Terran 8:5Terran vs Terran 2 GamesProtoss vs Protoss 13 GamesZerg vs Zerg 1 GameTerran vs Zerg 7:3Zerg vs Protoss 4:4Protoss vs Terran 5:5Terran vs Terran 3 GamesProtoss vs Protoss 6 GamesZerg vs Zerg 5 GamesTerran vs Zerg 2:0Zerg vs Protoss 0-7Protoss vs Terran 2:2Terran vs Terran 1 GameProtoss vs Protoss 7 GamesZerg vs Zerg 0 GamesTerran vs Zerg 3:1Zerg vs Protoss 0:4Protoss vs Terran 2:4Terran vs Terran 0 GamesProtoss vs Protoss 3 GamesZerg vs Zerg 2 GamesTerran vs Zerg 20:10Zerg vs Protoss 24:37Protoss vs Terran 25:28Terran vs Terran 9 GamesProtoss vs Protoss 43 GamesZerg vs Zerg 16 GamesTerran vs Zerg 23:12Zerg vs Protoss 34:44Protoss vs Terran 29:33Terran vs Terran 9 GamesProtoss vs Protoss 50 GamesZerg vs Zerg 19 GamesEdit: Source sheetEdit 2: Liquipedia Stats . I didn't know they were all here this organized even though I use LP all the fucking time haha. I posted these because I felt there were some really notable stats in here. Commentator http://twitter.com/proxywolf

Taronar Profile Joined December 2011 Netherlands 168 Posts #2 Very intresting stats! I am actually impressed by how well Terran plays against Protoss since the last balance patch. Think it is mainly because the astonishing amount of strong Terrans compared to the Protosses. Also zergs seem really weak in these stats. Can somebody sum up ideas behind this? SKT1.Rain | SKT1.PartinG | Liquid TaeJa | Startale Life

Mahanaim Profile Joined December 2012 Korea (South) 1001 Posts #3 thanks Wolf :D Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.

Faust852 Profile Joined February 2012 Luxembourg 4004 Posts #4 On April 04 2014 20:50 Taronar wrote:

Very intresting stats! I am actually impressed by how well Terran plays against Protoss since the last balance patch. Think it is mainly because the astonishing amount of strong Terrans compared to the Protosses. Also zergs seem really weak in these stats. Can somebody sum up ideas behind this?



No real ubber zergs nowadays, Soulkey and Rogue are fucking strong, but the other are still lacking imho. DRG doing somewhat good, but still.

No real ubber zergs nowadays, Soulkey and Rogue are fucking strong, but the other are still lacking imho. DRG doing somewhat good, but still.

Ketch Profile Joined October 2010 Netherlands 7282 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-04 11:58:26 #5

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Statistics



Also, your results don't include the final playoff match between Jin Air and MVP yet, the wikipedia page does.



More interesting would be to hear your take on these stats! Not to rain on your parade, but this data is also here right?Also, your results don't include the final playoff match between Jin Air and MVP yet, the wikipedia page does.More interesting would be to hear your take on these stats!

Tobblish Profile Joined August 2011 Sweden 6313 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:02:05 #6 On April 04 2014 20:56 Ketch wrote:

Not to rain on your parade, but this this data is also here right?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Statistics



Also, your results don't include the final playoff match between Jin Air and MVP yet, the wikipedia page does.



More interesting would be to hear your take on these stats! Not to rain on your parade, but this this data is also here right?Also, your results don't include the final playoff match between Jin Air and MVP yet, the wikipedia page does.More interesting would be to hear your take on these stats!

The stats on TLPD and liquipedia aren't "official" stats

(I'm amazed that theres enough dedicated fans around to keep all of this up to date, really awesome tbh)



Thanks for sharing the starts anyway Wolf, they are interesting and I'm sure that a lot of people find them too. The stats on TLPD and liquipedia aren't "official" stats(I'm amazed that theres enough dedicated fans around to keep all of this up to date, really awesome tbh)Thanks for sharing the starts anyway Wolf, they are interesting and I'm sure that a lot of people find them too. The curse is real

Big J Profile Joined March 2011 Austria 16272 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:11:04 #7 On April 04 2014 20:50 Taronar wrote:

Very intresting stats! I am actually impressed by how well Terran plays against Protoss since the last balance patch. Think it is mainly because the astonishing amount of strong Terrans compared to the Protosses. Also zergs seem really weak in these stats. Can somebody sum up ideas behind this?



PvZ: Good Protoss figured out consistent ways to play against SHs and bad Protoss figured out that they still can just Immortal/Sentry against anybody that is favored against them.

TvZ: Not sure, but Maps were pretty good for Terran these rounds, if you were willing to play to them. Tanks are pretty good these days. PvZ: Good Protoss figured out consistent ways to play against SHs and bad Protoss figured out that they still can just Immortal/Sentry against anybody that is favored against them.TvZ: Not sure, but Maps were pretty good for Terran these rounds, if you were willing to play to them. Tanks are pretty good these days.

EthanS Profile Joined February 2011 United States 206 Posts #8 Zerg was 1-18 combined on Polar Night and Habitation Station. Ouch.

SidianTheBard Profile Joined October 2010 United States 2208 Posts #9 On April 04 2014 21:19 EthanS wrote:

Zerg was 1-18 combined on Polar Night and Habitation Station. Ouch.



Yeah, it's crazy too because every TLPD stat and every stat I get from sc2replaystats (thousands of games) has Zerg about equal with protoss and zerg having like a 55% win ratio against terran on it.



It boggles my mind! lol Yeah, it's crazy too because every TLPD stat and every stat I get from sc2replaystats (thousands of games) has Zerg about equal with protoss and zerg having like a 55% win ratio against terran on it.It boggles my mind! lol Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.

xpaperclip Profile Joined January 2011 Australia 992 Posts #10

(Presentation is a bit crap so probably won't make it to mainspace any time soon.)



(I also started including the relevant information in lineup posts and no one noticed haha) If anyone is interested I recently started gathering which maps were the best, worst and most played by each player. User:Xpaperclip/Carno/Player Map Statistics (Presentation is a bit crap so probably won't make it to mainspace any time soon.)(I also started including the relevant information in lineup posts and no one noticed haha)

zeratul_jf Profile Joined October 2011 United States 789 Posts #11 On April 04 2014 21:34 xpaperclip wrote:

If anyone is interested I recently started gathering which maps were the best, worst and most played by each player.

(Presentation is a bit crap so probably won't make it to mainspace any time soon.)



(I also started including the relevant information in lineup posts and no one noticed haha) If anyone is interested I recently started gathering which maps were the best, worst and most played by each player. User:Xpaperclip/Carno/Player Map Statistics (Presentation is a bit crap so probably won't make it to mainspace any time soon.)(I also started including the relevant information in lineup posts and no one noticed haha)



Well this will make my Fantasy league much easier to set up lol Well this will make my Fantasy league much easier to set up lol

Squat Profile Joined September 2013 Sweden 7821 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:40:30 #12 People figured out what MC understood three years ago, playing macro against zerg is annoying and takes time, just bombard them with cheeses and proxies. Something will usually stick. "Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump

covetousrat Profile Joined October 2010 2099 Posts #13 Terran best performing race. Hmmmm not bad

Tosster Profile Joined August 2011 Poland 293 Posts #14 "Protoss is so op, we need to put antitoss maps into the mappool!"~Blizzard

Just throw in Outboxer, it seems it is very balanced map.

andrewlt Profile Joined August 2009 United States 6866 Posts #15 Interesting that terran has good stats but TvT is the least played mirror match-up. It seems that teams are still reluctant to field terrans.

sacade Profile Joined January 2013 166 Posts #16

They need Jaedong so much Zerg is so uderpowerThey need Jaedong so much

FFW_Rude Profile Blog Joined November 2010 France 10169 Posts #17 Why oh why did Blizzard took KSS and not outboxer #1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".

monsta Profile Joined November 2012 169 Posts #18 we need MOAR zergs!!! Lifuuuuuuuu!! u have to find a way

imre Profile Blog Joined November 2011 France 9126 Posts #19 On April 04 2014 23:29 andrewlt wrote:

Interesting that terran has good stats but TvT is the least played mirror match-up. It seems that teams are still reluctant to field terrans.



well we got to see fanta rape some ppl and bbyong played some, way better than r1. well we got to see fanta rape some ppl and bbyong played some, way better than r1. Zest fanboy.