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MemberActivity: 66Merit: 10 Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy June 14, 2014, 05:12:56 PM #7782 Quote from: chaeplin on June 14, 2014, 05:05:20 PM Quote from: atcsecure on June 14, 2014, 05:03:08 PM



SO Chaeplin couldn't prove any thing so he tries to stir up the debate with non-trivial information.







Lets ALL BE CLEAR - PRODUCE THE ORIGINAL SENDERS ADDRESS or STFU!!!!!









Can you deny this ?

Is not single entity ?



This is your a Xnode address.



Can you deny this ?Is not single entity ?This is your a Xnode address.

What is the senders address, and how did you produce it?

I followed the idea GMaxwell provided in your link, but didnt get the senders address, but i'm pretty new to this stuff could mis a a thing or two.

I believe a senders address could be posted in euh.... just provide the senders address, nothing more!







What is the senders address, and how did you produce it?I followed the idea GMaxwell provided in your link, but didnt get the senders address, but i'm pretty new to this stuff could mis a a thing or two.I believe a senders address could be posted in euh.... just provide the senders address, nothing more!

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Hero MemberActivity: 644Merit: 500 Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy June 14, 2014, 05:15:31 PM #7785 Quote from: synechist on June 14, 2014, 02:55:52 PM Quote from: hoertest on June 14, 2014, 02:43:30 PM Quote from: synechist on June 14, 2014, 02:33:25 PM Quote from: hoertest on June 14, 2014, 02:27:27 PM Quote from: synechist on June 14, 2014, 02:10:49 PM [snip]

great summary, given the fact that he backed out of the newest challange for the multipath beta i think his intentions are clear now. but that doesn'T metter after all, the whole process helped XC finally but since that wasn't his personal intention (rather the opposite) there is no need for a thank you or any kind of forgiving gesture either.



the status quo is this: the only guy who could find the sender with a method that wasn 100% fair play anyway can no longer find it now with REV1.5 !!!



the test is still running so i don't celebrate before the final wistle



great summary, given the fact that he backed out of the newest challange for the multipath beta i think his intentions are clear now. but that doesn'T metter after all, the whole process helped XC finally but since that wasn't his personal intention (rather the opposite) there is no need for a thank you or any kind of forgiving gesture either.the status quo is this: the only guy who could find the sender with a method that wasn 100% fair play anyway can no longer find it now with REV1.5 !!!the test is still running so i don't celebrate before the final wistle



I think that we are obliged to give Chaeplin the benefit of the doubt here regarding his beliefs, since we have no proof of the contrary. If I were in his position and genuinely believed that I'd been hard done by, I'd also be unwilling to continue.



It's just unfortunate that he's mistaken in his belief. That's all it comes down to, in my opinion.





As an aside, I think it's a good idea to be gracious to one's opponents. It makes one a good sport. We gain nothing by being victorious and mean.

Chaeplin's stated reason for not testing the new release is that he believes ATCSECURE did not acknowledge the hard link Chaeplin provided.I think that we are obliged to give Chaeplin the benefit of the doubt here regarding his beliefs, since we have no proof of the contrary. If I were in his position and genuinely believed that I'd been hard done by, I'd also be unwilling to continue.It's just unfortunate that he's mistaken in his belief. That's all it comes down to, in my opinion.As an aside, I think it's a good idea to be gracious to one's opponents. It makes one a good sport. We gain nothing by being victorious and mean.

come on , he allwys kept going without bountys or any acknowledgement and the moment his method doesn't work anymore he plays the emotionally hurt? whatever. i also think its not the moment to confront him but i can understand some people can'T hold back right now.

just be happy for the achievments of the whole XC team.



well done boys.

come on , he allwys kept going without bountys or any acknowledgement and the moment his method doesn't work anymore he plays the emotionally hurt? whatever. i also think its not the moment to confront him but i can understand some people can'T hold back right now.just be happy for the achievments of the whole XC team.well done boys.

You're right: we have no reason to believe that he's telling the truth. But what I mean is that we have no proof that he's not telling the truth, so it's better for us if we just accept his reasons.

You're right: we have no reason to believe that he's telling the truth. But what I mean is that we have no proof that he's not telling the truth, so it's better for us if we just accept his reasons.

Look, I actually like Chaeplin and it is possible that he backed out of the challenge due to the reasons he stated. But, based on my real life experience dealing with big egos, it's more likely he just can't find the answer. The odds are too high that he would love nothing more than to crack another challenge put forth directly from ATCSecure himself. On top of that, this wasn't just another wallet update, this was Rev1.5. Blowing a hole in Rev1.5 would make it a whole new ballgame and I seriously doubt he or any other would miss on that opportunity. IMO, the odds are heavily in favor of him failing to solve the problem. Backing out is the best course of action because guessing at a completely wrong answer is much worse. He knows it. Look, I actually like Chaeplin and it is possible that he backed out of the challenge due to the reasons he stated. But, based on my real life experience dealing with big egos, it's more likely he just can't find the answer. The odds are too high that he would love nothing more than to crack another challenge put forth directly from ATCSecure himself. On top of that, this wasn't just another wallet update, this was Rev1.5. Blowing a hole in Rev1.5 would make it a whole new ballgame and I seriously doubt he or any other would miss on that opportunity. IMO, the odds are heavily in favor of him failing to solve the problem. Backing out is the best course of action because guessing at a completely wrong answer is much worse. He knows it.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 280Merit: 250Bitnation Development Team Member Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy June 14, 2014, 05:17:57 PM #7787 Quote from: solid12345 on June 14, 2014, 05:11:14 PM I'm a layman so this all goes over my head, but in the American court of law we have a thing called "Reasonable Doubt", and from what I gather is there is absolutely no flaw in the XC design that would allow someone to be caught, indicted and convicted on anything based on the evidence shown. Chaeplin's method just seems to be the equivalent of throwing darts at a wall and getting giddy when he hits it right, while this may be technically correct, in the REAL WORLD this is not enough to send anyone up the river, if my understanding is incorrect let me know.



It is not enough to send someone to jail, but may be enough to warrant a more serious investigation, which is often all that is required in many countries... It is not enough to send someone to jail, but may be enough to warrant a more serious investigation, which is often all that is required in many countries...

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Last edit: June 14, 2014, 05:48:44 PM by minerjav #7789 Quote from: solid12345 on June 14, 2014, 05:11:14 PM I'm a layman so this all goes over my head, but in the American court of law we have a thing called "Reasonable Doubt", and from what I gather is there is absolutely no flaw in the XC design that would allow someone to be caught, indicted and convicted on anything based on the evidence shown. Chaeplin's method just seems to be the equivalent of throwing darts at a wall and getting giddy when he hits it right, while this may be technically correct, in the REAL WORLD this is not enough to send anyone up the river, if my understanding is incorrect let me know.



As the suggested reading shows, Most of the time in real life you only need a lightly test (like the DNA), to elevate it to something higher (like an "American court" as you mention) if the importance of the case require it. At that level, you can order a more exhaustive search with better tools and technology.



For most users, proof that he is not my father is enough , For most fathers, proof that he is not my son is enough. (the big business for commercial products around the world and "over the counter")



Edited for clarification. As the suggested reading shows, Most of the time in real life you only need a lightly test (like the DNA), to elevate it to something higher (like an "American court" as you mention) if the importance of the case require it. At that level, you can order a more exhaustive search with better tools and technology., For most fathers, proof that he is not my son is enough. (the big business for commercial products around the world and "over the counter")Edited for clarification.

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Hero MemberActivity: 756Merit: 500 Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy June 14, 2014, 05:21:19 PM #7790



I'm willing to offer 1 btc for anybody who can find the senders address for the transaction done yesterday



XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - Receivers Address



in order to claim the bounty you need to include the proof and it needs to be "beyond a reasonable doubt"



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Hero MemberActivity: 742Merit: 500Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3 Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy June 14, 2014, 05:36:45 PM #7795 Chaplin, be honest, you cannot produce the results you have tricked people into thinking you are capable of delivering. The reason you are having so much trouble explaining the satoshi spam is because you think you have access to the wallets total balance? Or you think by sending coins to that address it adds the address to the blockchain on some level you somehow created a hard link? Do you even understand the logical fails here?



This is like you are saying: Yes officer, little 9 year old Suzie sold me the crack. And the cop looks at you like you are a nutcase because he clearly saw crackhead A hand crackhead B said crack. (Chain of custody.) Then Chaplin says, "Yes, yes, I know the crackheads gave me the crack, but then I threw some on Suzie....so now she is involved too and she gave me crack now since I gave her some." To which the cop responds by putting you in a straight jacket. BTC 1JASiNZxmAN1WBS4dmGEDoPpzN3GV7dnjX DVC 1CxxZzqcy7YEVXfCn5KvgRxjeWvPpniK3 Earn Devcoins Devtome.com

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Sr. MemberActivity: 280Merit: 250Bitnation Development Team Member Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy June 14, 2014, 05:39:30 PM #7796 Quote from: jasinlee on June 14, 2014, 05:36:45 PM This is like you are saying: Yes officer, little 9 year old Suzie sold me the crack. And the cop looks at you like you are a nutcase because he clearly saw crackhead A hand crackhead B said crack. (Chain of custody.) Then Chaplin says, "Yes, yes, I know the crackheads gave me the crack, but then I threw some on Suzie....so now she is involved too and she gave me crack now since I gave her some." To which the cop responds by putting you in a straight jacket.



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Hero MemberActivity: 512Merit: 500 Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy June 14, 2014, 05:40:32 PM #7797 First I thought Chaeplin was just FUD, then I thought he was actually helping, however now I'm back at my initial position. Post something clear or get lost Your account locked, please contact support.