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Sr. MemberActivity: 290Merit: 252I miss when crypto was about decentralisation. Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 03:51:47 AM #162 Quote from: randywald on October 19, 2014, 04:10:46 PM .



1. It seems to be a fair coin. I will buy some of them.

2. What has the panda to do with money? Has it any special markets? Or is it just the panda because everybody likes pandas?



Thank you.

I was really surprised that PandaCoin is so popular1. It seems to be a fair coin. I will buy some of them.2. What has the panda to do with money? Has it any special markets? Or is it just the panda because everybody likes pandas?Thank you.

Pandacoin was originally made to counter a wolong scamcoin, recently pandacoin succeeded in killing the wolong scamcoin by getting it removed from the markets.



The devs have created something much more than a counter-coin now.



Innovative features such as a browser miner to introduce new non-technical users to cryptocurrency and buypnd which allows PayPal to PND transactions.

The devs are always active and are always planning new releases/ features that actually work.



No IPO/ICO, premine, none of that stupid shit, pure fair distribution. Started with PoW and after a community vote it switched to PoS.



There are two official multipools so you can still earn PND.



Pandacoin was originally made to counter a wolong scamcoin, recently pandacoin succeeded in killing the wolong scamcoin by getting it removed from the markets.The devs have created something much more than a counter-coin now.Innovative features such as a browser miner to introduce new non-technical users to cryptocurrency and buypnd which allows PayPal to PND transactions.The devs are always active and are always planning new releases/ features that actually work.No IPO/ICO, premine, none of that stupid shit, pure fair distribution. Started with PoW and after a community vote it switched to PoS.There are two official multipools so you can still earn PND. Crypto was created to liberate the individual. Decentralisation matters.

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NewbieActivity: 2Merit: 0 Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 04:18:38 AM #164 +1 for Blackcoin. So no premine for Blackcoin, but Pandacoin had a 3% premine? Im just learning about Panda now. I found that info on an original reddit post. How is Panda more than a new brand for Doge but with 2.5 minute blocktimes? Is there offline staking, but isn't the network more secure if everyone is online staking like for Blackcoin's PoW2.0?

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Full MemberActivity: 157Merit: 100Bohemian Crypto Guardian Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 04:29:38 AM #166 Quote from: trustlessgold on October 20, 2014, 04:18:38 AM +1 for Blackcoin. So no premine for Blackcoin, but Pandacoin had a 3% premine? Im just learning about Panda now. I found that info on an original reddit post. How is Panda more than a new brand for Doge but with 2.5 minute blocktimes? Is there offline staking, but isn't the network more secure if everyone is online staking like for Blackcoin's PoW2.0?



http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins



" For those of us keeping track, Blackcoin was launched Februrary 24th at 6:00 (no indication is given what time zone this is) 21). Block 4100 commenced on February 27th at 6:15. In 3 days Blackcoin produced some 40 million coins (or 50 million). Now they rest at around 75 million coins and only PoS occurs from here.



This is photographic evidence that supports our brief searching of the blackcoin blockchain. The majority of the first 10000 blocks were PoW, and since they were all producing 1,000 BC, the bulk of the coins were made within one week. Anyone should be highly skeptical of the start of this coin. Who would think that the creator of this coin is thinking about enriching your pockets and not theirs?"



66% of blackcoins created in 3 days to a select group of scammers. Blackcoin is an instant-mined scam that got pumped up high, and original group of scammers that got hold of the 66% of blackcoins already left the coin laughing to the bank already, leaving bagholders left to defend the fort.



Your move now blackcoin shill.





" For those of us keeping track, Blackcoin was launched Februrary 24th at 6:00 (no indication is given what time zone this is) 21). Block 4100 commenced on February 27th at 6:15.This is photographic evidence that supports our brief searching of the blackcoin blockchain. The majority of the first 10000 blocks were PoW, and since they were all producing 1,000 BC, the bulk of the coins were made within one week. Anyone should be highly skeptical of the start of this coin. Who would think that the creator of this coin is thinking about enriching your pockets and not theirs?"Blackcoin is an instant-mined scam that got pumped up high, and original group of scammers that got hold of the 66% of blackcoins already left the coin laughing to the bank already, leaving bagholders left to defend the fort.Your move now blackcoin shill. Don't get scammed or buy into SHITCOINS with instant mines, fast mines or premines - http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins

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MemberActivity: 74Merit: 10 Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 04:34:48 AM #167 Pandacoin had the longest PoW phase of any PoS coin on earth.



Pandacoin had 0 premine, 0 instamine, 0 fastmine, no IPO, 100% fair distribution for nearly 100 days.



Pandacoin has the most professional and highly skilled development team of any coin on the market.



Pandacoin is looking to expand past the crypto-crowd and into the global mass-markets, and has the talent to accomplish it with developments like the Panda Bank, and the Crypto Crash Course, making Pandacoin familiar and easy to understand.



The amount of innovation, skill, and sheer devotion to fairness, quality, and ethical business, is exactly what will bring Pandacoin to the top.







Blackcoin with it's 66% fastmine, extremely short PoW phase for a very tightly knit distribution, and unfulfilled promises of developments that will never come, will leave you dissatisfied; I guarantee it.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 350Merit: 250Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Available Now! Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 04:39:45 AM #168 Quote from: Joesixpack9000 on October 20, 2014, 04:29:38 AM Quote from: trustlessgold on October 20, 2014, 04:18:38 AM +1 for Blackcoin. So no premine for Blackcoin, but Pandacoin had a 3% premine? Im just learning about Panda now. I found that info on an original reddit post. How is Panda more than a new brand for Doge but with 2.5 minute blocktimes? Is there offline staking, but isn't the network more secure if everyone is online staking like for Blackcoin's PoW2.0?



http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins



" For those of us keeping track, Blackcoin was launched Februrary 24th at 6:00 (no indication is given what time zone this is) 21). Block 4100 commenced on February 27th at 6:15. In 3 days Blackcoin produced some 40 million coins (or 50 million). Now they rest at around 75 million coins and only PoS occurs from here.



This is photographic evidence that supports our brief searching of the blackcoin blockchain. The majority of the first 10000 blocks were PoW, and since they were all producing 1,000 BC, the bulk of the coins were made within one week. Anyone should be highly skeptical of the start of this coin. Who would think that the creator of this coin is thinking about enriching your pockets and not theirs?"



66% of blackcoins created in 3 days to a select group of scammers. Blackcoin is an instant-mined scam that got pumped up high, and original group of scammers that got hold of the 66% of blackcoins already left the coin laughing to the bank already, leaving bagholders left to defend the fort.



Your move now blackcoin shill.







" For those of us keeping track, Blackcoin was launched Februrary 24th at 6:00 (no indication is given what time zone this is) 21). Block 4100 commenced on February 27th at 6:15.This is photographic evidence that supports our brief searching of the blackcoin blockchain. The majority of the first 10000 blocks were PoW, and since they were all producing 1,000 BC, the bulk of the coins were made within one week. Anyone should be highly skeptical of the start of this coin. Who would think that the creator of this coin is thinking about enriching your pockets and not theirs?"Blackcoin is an instant-mined scam that got pumped up high, and original group of scammers that got hold of the 66% of blackcoins already left the coin laughing to the bank already, leaving bagholders left to defend the fort.Your move now blackcoin shill.

ouch. ouch.

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NewbieActivity: 2Merit: 0 Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 04:54:43 AM #169 Wow. Pandas are defensive. Didn't answer my questions though. I investigate before I buy and I found this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460037.0 for Pandacoin. Is that out of date or it was the wrong article? Did the coin reboot or something? Blackcoin seems fairly distributed and I got in late but still got lots. They post their distribution on their reddit. http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-blackcoin-addresses.html . I bought into blackcoin because a friend who mined in the POW phase told me about it. For BC their goal is mainstream adoption and now I use it to sell gold using halo smart contracts on Blackauctions. No one else has usable smart contracts right now as far as I know. Sniping at me wont make me a Panda but I might buy anyway if it looks distinctive. At least you sound civil cadexn and yes the page I found is different from what everyone is telling me here.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 350Merit: 250Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Available Now! Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 05:10:45 AM #170 Quote from: trustlessgold on October 20, 2014, 04:54:43 AM

Wow. Pandas are defensive. Didn't answer my questions though. I investigate before I buy and I found this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460037.0 for Pandacoin. Is that out of date or it was the wrong article? Did the coin reboot or something? Blackcoin seems fairly distributed and I got in late but still got lots. They post their distribution on their reddit. http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-blackcoin-addresses.html . I bought into blackcoin because a friend who mined in the POW phase told me about it. For BC their goal is mainstream adoption and now I use it to sell gold using halo smart contracts on Blackauctions. No one else has usable smart contracts right now as far as I know. Sniping at me wont make me a Panda but I might buy anyway if it looks distinctive. At least you sound civil cadexn and yes the page I found is different from what everyone is telling me here.

do you have selective reading? cause you don't seems to want to read my post. let me quote it again for you





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also, feel free to join us in IRC if you have any questions at #pandacoinPND @ irc.freenode.com Maybe you're reading the wrong article. PND have NO premine and with 3 months of PoW phase before transitioning to PoS.Link here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529 also, feel free to join us in IRC if you have any questions at #pandacoinPND @ irc.freenode.com



EDIT: I just realized you read my post. but you should really get on IRC it'll answer your questions much quicker and clearer

in case you don't have IRC client, you can access thru the web here bit.ly/1ouMrmI do you have selective reading? cause you don't seems to want to read my post. let me quote it again for youEDIT: I just realized you read my post. but you should really get on IRC it'll answer your questions much quicker and clearerin case you don't have IRC client, you can access thru the web here bit.ly/1ouMrmI

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Sr. MemberActivity: 294Merit: 250 Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 06:52:53 AM #171 Quote from: trustlessgold on October 20, 2014, 04:54:43 AM

Wow. Pandas are defensive. Didn't answer my questions though. I investigate before I buy and I found this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460037.0 for Pandacoin. Is that out of date or it was the wrong article? Did the coin reboot or something? Blackcoin seems fairly distributed and I got in late but still got lots. They post their distribution on their reddit. http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-blackcoin-addresses.html . I bought into blackcoin because a friend who mined in the POW phase told me about it. For BC their goal is mainstream adoption and now I use it to sell gold using halo smart contracts on Blackauctions. No one else has usable smart contracts right now as far as I know. Sniping at me wont make me a Panda but I might buy anyway if it looks distinctive. At least you sound civil cadexn and yes the page I found is different from what everyone is telling me here.

Pandas are defensive because of 2 main things:



1) We are against all scams: ICO/IPO/instamine/fastmine/premine. We've done a lot of efforts putting scams out of business and refunding people who lost coins in scams. Our topic once get banned for 30 days because we offered to pay a compensation to all people who lost coins in a particular scam. (bitcointalk saw this as a giveaway and banned our topic). We have a very long and rich history and we managed to "kill" 2 competing scamcoins (one of the topic you mentioned) with the same name. We are the only one that survived (and stronger than ever ). So our community is very strong and loyal and always try people to do their own research when they want to invest in coins. You will very rarely see someone pushing to buy PND, yes we are amazing but we're not some coin with kiddies that just say "buy buy! moon! moon!".



2) We've come a very long way, we were down to 3 litoshi at one point but we (the devs and the community) didn't give up. We (the devs) kept working very hard and have at this point already accomplished some things that makes us very different from other coins. We're creating the first coin that is easy to use, easy to mine, easy to buy and easy to understand. Because we've come from such a long way, the community is very close-knit. We support eachother, mess with one of us and you mess with all of us



Feel free to read up on a post I created last friday:



My personal opinion: Blackcoin is doing some things right and some things not. I'm not going into details on this. Also distribution is a bit strange and the richlist is not that well distributed actually. Top 5 owning more than 16% of coins is not ideal.

That being said: you should only invest in coins that you think are right for you: do your research and my advice is to only invest in coins that have been around a while and that still have active devs. Chances are too high that new coins are scams. Pandas are defensive because of 2 main things:1) We are against all scams: ICO/IPO/instamine/fastmine/premine. We've done a lot of efforts putting scams out of business and refunding people who lost coins in scams. Our topic once get banned for 30 days because we offered to pay a compensation to all people who lost coins in a particular scam. (bitcointalk saw this as a giveaway and banned our topic). We have a very long and rich history and we managed to "kill" 2 competing scamcoins (one of the topic you mentioned) with the same name. We are the only one that survived (and stronger than ever). So our community is very strong and loyal and always try people to do their own research when they want to invest in coins. You will very rarely see someone pushing to buy PND, yes we are amazing but we're not some coin with kiddies that just say "buy buy! moon! moon!".2) We've come a very long way, we were down to 3 litoshi at one point but we (the devs and the community) didn't give up. We (the devs) kept working very hard and have at this point already accomplished some things that makes us very different from other coins. We're creating the first coin that is easy to use, easy to mine, easy to buy and easy to understand. Because we've come from such a long way, the community is very close-knit. We support eachother, mess with one of us and you mess with all of usFeel free to read up on a post I created last friday: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.msg9232641#msg9232641 My personal opinion: Blackcoin is doing some things right and some things not. I'm not going into details on this. Also distribution is a bit strange and the richlist is not that well distributed actually. Top 5 owning more than 16% of coins is not ideal.That being said: you should only invest in coins that you think are right for you: do your research and my advice is to only invest in coins that have been around a while and that still have active devs. Chances are too high that new coins are scams. ▓▓▓ BITMIXER.IO ▓▓▓ ▓▓▓ High Volume Bitcoin MIXER ▓▓▓

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Sr. MemberActivity: 248Merit: 250 Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 10:50:12 AM #174 Its really sad how sophisticated and diligent cryptocurrency development branches fight each other in those forums. Luckily developers who meet on conferences are usually very kind and professional to each other.



The whole problem is probably that everyone thinks that his favored altcoin will replace Bitcoin one day, ignoring the fact that if there is a blockchain technology that is so much superior to Bitcoin then Bitcoin would of course hard fork to that technology before it dies.



Everything would be so much better and more exciting if all alt coins would be worth nothing. Then developers would work together again and communities would cooperate instead of fighting each other. Sorry for the rant, I don't care where people put their money in, and its also not my business, but when I vote in a "Best Proof of Stake coins" poll, then I distinguish projects regarding their code base and not regarding their investment opportunity (which are absolutely not correlated thanks to speculators).

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Sr. MemberActivity: 268Merit: 250Digital Currency Presented Re: Best Proof of Stake coins - Voting Poll October 20, 2014, 03:22:40 PM #178 Quote from: noerc on October 20, 2014, 10:50:12 AM Its really sad how sophisticated and diligent cryptocurrency development branches fight each other in those forums. Luckily developers who meet on conferences are usually very kind and professional to each other.



The whole problem is probably that everyone thinks that his favored altcoin will replace Bitcoin one day, ignoring the fact that if there is a blockchain technology that is so much superior to Bitcoin then Bitcoin would of course hard fork to that technology before it dies.



Everything would be so much better and more exciting if all alt coins would be worth nothing. Then developers would work together again and communities would cooperate instead of fighting each other. Sorry for the rant, I don't care where people put their money in, and its also not my business, but when I vote in a "Best Proof of Stake coins" poll, then I distinguish projects regarding their code base and not regarding their investment opportunity (which are absolutely not correlated thanks to speculators).





You make a valid point... Although the driving force behind cryptocurrnecy is the community, with that said you are correct, the rivalry is somewhat ridiculous at times and should not be as harsh as it is most of the time. You make a valid point... Although the driving force behind cryptocurrnecy is the community, with that said you are correct, the rivalry is somewhat ridiculous at times and should not be as harsh as it is most of the time. Project management and implementation of digital currency platforms. Crypto reviews and presentations.