Azarkon Profile Joined January 2010 United States 9631 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-04 00:51:07 #641 On May 04 2011 09:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:

xiaOt is the only chinese player I was really impressed by



everyone else did like 2 base timing pushes on close positions like that guy against nestea



After watching those games, XiaoT is indisputably the best Chinese player I've seen. Not too surprising, considering he sat at the top of the Chinese ladder with a 87-88% win:loss ratio for weeks. Even now he's the player with the highest win:loss ratio on the CHN server at 85.6%, which presumably means something since no one else on that server has that kind of win lose rate and the same amount of games.



If I could criticize his play, I'd say that he makes a lot of risky, baller moves but prefers to play a defensive, macro style at the same time. It's like being passive aggressive, and the danger with this is that the opponent will start playing very suspicious against you and try to counter all your tricks with mass scouting. Now, XiaoT can macro and he has great army control, but there's two things he could be doing that he's not doing - upgrading Protoss armor early (very effective vs. bio) and teching to HTs earlier.



Yes, MKP had ghosts. Yes, XiaoT sniped all the vikings in the first battle (which was really just about sniping the vikings if you noticed what he targeted). But at the end of the day, against a MMM ball you still want HTs. It makes your army so much more cost efficient and forces a lot of ghosts from the Terran.



Having said that, there are two things that XiaoT did in Game 2 that I really liked but which I don't think a lot of people noticed. First, he always sniped the Vikings and Medivacs with his Stalkers. He did not target the Marauders with them. This is a good move because Vikings and Medivacs are much more expensive and precious for Terran than Marauders are. Stalkers really do not do that much DPS against Marauders. So in a battle you should focus on the Medivacs and Vikings until you get HTs. At that point you should just Feedback the Medivacs and storm the rest.



As for the other aspects of the games, most people have already said it: he's great at tactics and knows what he's doing with his army. Every Protoss should be looking at Game 1 for how to beat a marine tank push, and at Game 2 for how to come back from a really horrible position. After watching those games, XiaoT is indisputably the best Chinese player I've seen. Not too surprising, considering he sat at the top of the Chinese ladder with a 87-88% win:loss ratio for weeks. Even now he's the player with the highest win:loss ratio on the CHN server at 85.6%, which presumably means something since no one else on that server has that kind of win lose rate and the same amount of games.If I could criticize his play, I'd say that he makes a lot of risky, baller moves but prefers to play a defensive, macro style at the same time. It's like being passive aggressive, and the danger with this is that the opponent will start playing very suspicious against you and try to counter all your tricks with mass scouting. Now, XiaoT can macro and he has great army control, but there's two things he could be doing that he's not doing - upgrading Protoss armor early (very effective vs. bio) and teching to HTs earlier.Yes, MKP had ghosts. Yes, XiaoT sniped all the vikings in the first battle (which was really just about sniping the vikings if you noticed what he targeted). But at the end of the day, against a MMM ball you still want HTs. It makes your army so much more cost efficient and forces a lot of ghosts from the Terran.Having said that, there are two things that XiaoT did in Game 2 that I really liked but which I don't think a lot of people noticed. First, he always sniped the Vikings and Medivacs with his Stalkers. He did not target the Marauders with them. This is a good move because Vikings and Medivacs are much more expensive and precious for Terran than Marauders are. Stalkers really do not do that much DPS against Marauders. So in a battle you should focus on the Medivacs and Vikings until you get HTs. At that point you should just Feedback the Medivacs and storm the rest.As for the other aspects of the games, most people have already said it: he's great at tactics and knows what he's doing with his army. Every Protoss should be looking at Game 1 for how to beat a marine tank push, and at Game 2 for how to come back from a really horrible position.

oopsyoucantmove Profile Joined February 2011 United States 38 Posts #642 where can we find the broadcast schedule for the next couple weeks? Great tournament guys awesome lineup

Marinechan Profile Joined May 2011 Sweden 71 Posts #643 On May 04 2011 09:37 Nerdslayer wrote:

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On May 04 2011 09:36 Marinechan wrote:

Extremely boring TvP.



I suggest you get some classes then! I suggest you get some classes then!

Pretty much nothing happened in the two games. MKP pushes early, toss uses basic ff and denies the rush. Expands. MKP gets behind. Toss gets colossi. gg.



Repeat that once more and you get game #2. Pretty much nothing happened in the two games. MKP pushes early, toss uses basic ff and denies the rush. Expands. MKP gets behind. Toss gets colossi. gg.Repeat that once more and you get game #2. Marinesplit, how do I do it?

Diamond Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 9882 Posts #644 On May 04 2011 09:53 oopsyoucantmove wrote:

where can we find the broadcast schedule for the next couple weeks? Great tournament guys awesome lineup



The majority of the broadcatsing schedule is in the OP. The majority of the broadcatsing schedule is in the OP. Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond

BBMorti Profile Joined September 2010 Denmark 242 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-04 01:35:03 #645 A ton of VOD's are missing in the OP.. is it because they are simply not available?

I hoped to catch the VOD's of Todvsboxer

Diamond Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 9882 Posts #646 On May 04 2011 10:32 BBMorti wrote:

A ton of VOD's are missing in the OP.. is it because they are simply not available?

I hoped to catch the VOD's of Todvsboxer



Day 3 and 4 are not up yet, sorry! Will link as soon as they are! Day 3 and 4 are not up yet, sorry! Will link as soon as they are! Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond

Frugalicious Profile Joined June 2010 United States 121 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-04 02:04:21 #647 On May 04 2011 09:55 Marinechan wrote:

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On May 04 2011 09:37 Nerdslayer wrote:

On May 04 2011 09:36 Marinechan wrote:

Extremely boring TvP.



I suggest you get some classes then! I suggest you get some classes then!

Pretty much nothing happened in the two games. MKP pushes early, toss uses basic ff and denies the rush. Expands. MKP gets behind. Toss gets colossi. gg.



Repeat that once more and you get game #2. Pretty much nothing happened in the two games. MKP pushes early, toss uses basic ff and denies the rush. Expands. MKP gets behind. Toss gets colossi. gg.Repeat that once more and you get game #2.



You can simplify any game to be as boring as that. Such a shallow statement of the games is quite indicative that you may be one or more of the following 1) blinded by your biases 2) poor analytical skills 3) Ignorant about the game 4) low cognitive functioning 5) a troll.



Nevermind. A quick look at your posts and its obvious where your opinion comes from. Hardcore fanboyism overwhelming any form of logic that you may have.



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Xioat's amazingly, instantaneous reactions to some of those high-pressured situations were pretty damn amazing. Gotta love that immediate Warp Prism as soon as he felt he would of been contained. Often times I would see toss players just tech or pump out more offensive units and Immortals to bust out. The double expand with half the army value and still holding off a stimmed MM attack was another awesome moment as well. You can simplify any game to be as boring as that.Nevermind. A quick look at your posts and its obvious where your opinion comes from. Hardcore fanboyism overwhelming any form of logic that you may have.-----Xioat's amazingly, instantaneous reactions to some of those high-pressured situations were pretty damn amazing. Gotta love that immediate Warp Prism as soon as he felt he would of been contained. Often times I would see toss players just tech or pump out more offensive units and Immortals to bust out. The double expand with half the army value and still holding off a stimmed MM attack was another awesome moment as well.

Dattish Profile Blog Joined January 2011 Sweden 3011 Posts #648 It's no new thing that the chinese are good players, LoveTT has been under the radar for a while but was among the top chinese BW players after the first generation quit and xiaOt was an extremely good war3 player. I think the only thing holding them back was the strange inability to qualify for the GSL(or perhaps lack of motivation to fly down there?). help

SilverforceX Profile Joined May 2010 Australia 267 Posts #649 XiaOT has really smooth play. Good micro, macro and decision making. He takes calculated risks too. Watching him play reminds me of Whitera.

Himbeer Profile Joined April 2011 Switzerland 176 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-04 10:55:35 #650 Why is Idra already in the next round? Did Mvp forfeit?

KiNGxXx Profile Blog Joined August 2010 7928 Posts #651 On May 04 2011 19:53 Himbeer wrote:

Why is Idra already in the next round? Did Mvp forfeit?

Yes, he forfeit. Yes, he forfeit. MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran

syllogism Profile Joined September 2010 Finland 5947 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-04 11:49:57 #652 RO16 has 9 protosses, 3 zergs, 4 terrans and RO16 has only 2 PvPs. Every quadrant has at least 2 protosses; doesn't bode well for an interesting RO4

bkrow Profile Blog Joined October 2010 Australia 8481 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-04 11:50:18 #653



Also lovecd taking down Nestea makes me smile but MorroW 2-0'd HuK oh boy

xiaOt is such a baller - by far the best Chinese player around;Also lovecd taking down Nestea makes me smilebut MorroW 2-0'd HuKoh boy In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!

Nukm_ Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 103 Posts #654 such a great tournament but the lack of up to date vods makes it a bit hard to follow

LwReisen Profile Joined March 2011 Australia 94 Posts #655 On May 04 2011 10:58 Frugalicious wrote:

Show nested quote +

On May 04 2011 09:55 Marinechan wrote:

On May 04 2011 09:37 Nerdslayer wrote:

On May 04 2011 09:36 Marinechan wrote:

Extremely boring TvP.



I suggest you get some classes then! I suggest you get some classes then!

Pretty much nothing happened in the two games. MKP pushes early, toss uses basic ff and denies the rush. Expands. MKP gets behind. Toss gets colossi. gg.



Repeat that once more and you get game #2. Pretty much nothing happened in the two games. MKP pushes early, toss uses basic ff and denies the rush. Expands. MKP gets behind. Toss gets colossi. gg.Repeat that once more and you get game #2.



You can simplify any game to be as boring as that. Such a shallow statement of the games is quite indicative that you may be one or more of the following 1) blinded by your biases 2) poor analytical skills 3) Ignorant about the game 4) low cognitive functioning 5) a troll.



Nevermind. A quick look at your posts and its obvious where your opinion comes from. Hardcore fanboyism overwhelming any form of logic that you may have.

You can simplify any game to be as boring as that.Nevermind. A quick look at your posts and its obvious where your opinion comes from.



You'll find this true with a large percentage of TL posters. You'll find this true with a large percentage of TL posters. MORDEKAIZER ES #1

antilyon Profile Blog Joined February 2011 Brazil 2524 Posts #656 Idra and XiaoT advancing?



I didn't see this coming.

sogek1ng Profile Joined April 2011 Norway 8 Posts #657 In the first post, there are some replays with casters, like NaDa, Fruitdealer, HuK, TLO... but where can i find the other matches? Boxer, ret, marineking, white-ra etc.?



Perhaps a site that can download the replays raw? Siege is here

Diamond Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 9882 Posts #658 On May 04 2011 21:24 Nukm_ wrote:

such a great tournament but the lack of up to date vods makes it a bit hard to follow



The VOD's from Day's 3 and 4 should be up soon. Sorry for the delay, we are getting used to the switch to Justin TV. The VOD's from Day's 3 and 4 should be up soon. Sorry for the delay, we are getting used to the switch to Justin TV. Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond

undyinglight Profile Joined December 2008 United States 593 Posts #659 On May 05 2011 04:32 iCCup.Diamond wrote:

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On May 04 2011 21:24 Nukm_ wrote:

such a great tournament but the lack of up to date vods makes it a bit hard to follow



The VOD's from Day's 3 and 4 should be up soon. Sorry for the delay, we are getting used to the switch to Justin TV. The VOD's from Day's 3 and 4 should be up soon. Sorry for the delay, we are getting used to the switch to Justin TV.



Excellent, I have been waiting for the MC vs Loner matches. Excellent, I have been waiting for the MC vs Loner matches. Rise Up!

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