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Re: Kickstarter Proxy Service (a concept for discussion) September 05, 2012, 01:04:54 AM #3 Quote from: Andrew Bitcoiner on September 04, 2012, 09:21:20 PM

just use https://bitcoinfunding.com/

Excellent - I've had BitcoinFunding.com bookmarked forever. I didn't realize it was up and running now. I may very well try it out. I have a number of little Bitcoin projects in the works that could be improved with funding. I'm very interested to see if the Bitcoin community is very charitable (or if it's just all about the rewards).



Of course, the purpose of this thread is to discuss proxying to Kickstarter.



Quote from: ChrisKoss on September 04, 2012, 10:52:06 PM Quote from: Nyhm on September 04, 2012, 06:02:01 PM

Caveats/Problems:

You wouldn't be able to get any associated backer rewards. Caveats/Problems:



If the Kickstarter project fails, you never get charged, so then you should just send back the USD equivalent of their pledge via BTC.



Accountability is the hardest part of the equation - I've had kickstarter projects arrive 4 months after backing, and for some I'll be waiting over a year (Double Fine Adventure, for example). It will be hard to build trust in this service if delivery takes 4+ months.



Good luck though, I'd use it![/list]

Each time you successfully fund a campaign, you have to fill out a "backer survey" that usually includes shipping address, email, etc. I think you could send backer rewards to unique shipping addresses without any problems.If the Kickstarter project fails, you never get charged, so then you should just send back the USD equivalent of their pledge via BTC.Accountability is the hardest part of the equation - I've had kickstarter projects arrive 4 months after backing, and for some I'll be waiting over a year (Double Fine Adventure, for example). It will be hard to build trust in this service if delivery takes 4+ months.Good luck though, I'd use it![/list]

Excellent points, thanks for your input ChrisKoss.



One trouble with reward shipping is that my Bitcoin Enthusiast user could be proxying several Bitcoin patrons under a single account. So, 5 folks may (anonymously) send a total of 7btc to a project's donation address, which would turn into one $70 (appx) backing. If more BTC shows up later, I can up the bid. One great thing is that I don't have to worry about the Bitcoin patrons backing out on me, so I am personally confident in pledging the USD.



To handle sending back BTC is (a) a lot more overhead/complexity (but maybe necessary for folks to consider it), and (b) would require a payment and return address for each Bitcoin patron. This could still retain a level of anonymity, though.



The point, really, should be about being a pseudo-anonymous (at least unnamed) Bitcoin backer of a project, not just to win the rewards.



Just to clarify, I'm not proposing that I will be jumping into this anytime soon (except for backing my own project, see above). I just think it's an interesting concept worth discussing at this point. Maybe someone will run with it, or think of some clever twist to solve the accountability issues. More discussion definitely needed. Excellent - I've had BitcoinFunding.com bookmarked forever. I didn't realize it was up and running now. I may very well try it out. I have a number of little Bitcoin projects in the works that could be improved with funding. I'm very interested to see if the Bitcoin community is very charitable (or if it's just all about the rewards).Of course, the purpose of this thread is to discuss proxying to Kickstarter.Excellent points, thanks for your input ChrisKoss.One trouble with reward shipping is that my Bitcoin Enthusiast user could be proxying several Bitcoin patrons under a single account. So, 5 folks may (anonymously) send a total of 7btc to a project's donation address, which would turn into one $70 (appx) backing. If more BTC shows up later, I can up the bid. One great thing is that I don't have to worry about the Bitcoin patrons backing out on me, so I am personally confident in pledging the USD.To handle sending back BTC is (a) a lot more overhead/complexity (but maybe necessary for folks to consider it), and (b) would require a payment and return address for each Bitcoin patron. This could still retain a level of anonymity, though.The point, really, should be about being a pseudo-anonymous (at least unnamed) Bitcoin backer of a project, not just to win the rewards.Just to clarify, I'm not proposing that I will be jumping into this anytime soon (except for backing my own project, see above). I just think it's an interesting concept worth discussing at this point. Maybe someone will run with it, or think of some clever twist to solve the accountability issues. More discussion definitely needed.