15 Posted May 2, 2013, 11:45 PM Minato Ku Tokyo and Paris fan Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paris, Montrouge Posts: 3,918

It is just take long times to begin works, to relocate the inhabitants and to clean up the soils of the area.

Some were former heavy industrial district and soils are still highly polluted.

There is also the issues with the building owners.



Most of the residential buildings with walled windows will be demolished soon to build modern buildings.

If the entries and windows are walled, it is to avoid squatting, a very common thing in a city that lack of housing like Paris.



Quote: LSyd Originally Posted by why is it so gritty? it reminds me of areas of the U.S. with extreme economic collapse and depopulation.

Look at the population of the muncipalities that we see in the pictures, many are today more populated than their former peak in 1968.



Saint-Denis

1968: 99 268

1999: 85 832

2010: 106 785



Saint-Ouen

1968: 48 886

1999: 39 722

2010: 47 189



Aubervilliers

1968: 73 695

1999: 63 136

2010: 76 087



Pantin

1968: 47 607

1975: 42 739 (unlike other the low was in 1975 for Pantin)

2010: 54 136



For the economy as I wrote previously, it was former industrial district, infact it was one of the heart of industrial Paris.

Paris area since the 1970's shifted from an heavy industrial city to a service based city.

The today economic reality of those areas is not bleak as it was twenty year ago

What Le Charbonais don't show is that near many of these pictures, there are many offices building recently built or under in construction because of a proximity with Central Paris, tranportation and cheap land.

Saint-Denis has more than recovered the number of jobs it lost since the 1970's but there is still plenty of former industrial wasteland.



Quote: Le Charbonneur Originally Posted by

Thanks again Thanks Minato, was quite sure it was that but read a wrong advice in FAQ section....i was too tired and speed (or stoned lol) to verify....Thanks again

Just copy the link in the message. Note that many of these areas have planned redevopement.It is just take long times to begin works, to relocate the inhabitants and to clean up the soils of the area.Some were former heavy industrial district and soils are still highly polluted.There is also the issues with the building owners.Most of the residential buildings with walled windows will be demolished soon to build modern buildings.If the entries and windows are walled, it is to avoid squatting, a very common thing in a city that lack of housing like Paris.There is not even extreme depopulation like in USA.Look at the population of the muncipalities that we see in the pictures, many are today more populated than their former peak in 1968.Saint-Denis1968: 99 2681999: 85 8322010: 106 785Saint-Ouen1968: 48 8861999: 39 7222010: 47 189Aubervilliers1968: 73 6951999: 63 1362010: 76 087Pantin1968: 47 6071975: 42 739 (unlike other the low was in 1975 for Pantin)2010: 54 136For the economy as I wrote previously, it was former industrial district, infact it was one of the heart of industrial Paris.Paris area since the 1970's shifted from an heavy industrial city to a service based city.The today economic reality of those areas is not bleak as it was twenty year agoWhat Le Charbonais don't show is that near many of these pictures, there are many offices building recently built or under in construction because of a proximity with Central Paris, tranportation and cheap land.Saint-Denis has more than recovered the number of jobs it lost since the 1970's but there is still plenty of former industrial wasteland.Second advice with those BBCode code, you don't need to use the insert image of the forum.Just copy the link in the message.

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