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Anyone have any info on the HB SLI bridge? Is it going to be required for use with the 1080, or will standard bridges work? Also does it even allow for 3 and 4 way SLI configurations?

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) Standard bridge will probably work, but apparently the new bridge doubles the memory bandwidth between the cards over the old bridges.



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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) exilelrrp

I believe standard SLI Bridge should work find, those are Nvidia specific style to match the GPU reference card.





I hope you are right about the standard bridge working. I'm looking to buy 3 1080's for my surround setup. I've just not seen 3-way SLI mentioned at all with the 1080/1070.







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NVIDIA’s new SLI HB bridge doubles the available transfer bandwidth compared to the NVIDIA Maxwell™ architecture. Delivering silky-smooth gameplay, it’s the best way to experience surround gaming—and it’s only compatible with the GeForce GTX 1080.





I says it's only compatible with the GTX 1080, but it doesn't say that it's required, so I'm really not sure.

I hope you are right about the standard bridge working. I'm looking to buy 3 1080's for my surround setup. I've just not seen 3-way SLI mentioned at all with the 1080/1070.From the Nvidia website:I says it's only compatible with the GTX 1080, but it doesn't say that it's required, so I'm really not sure.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) Yeah, I'm just assuming. I don't see why they'd make their old ones no longer work. But, since SLI bridges generally come with the motherboard and not the gpus, I honestly don't know.



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I can confirm that the older SLI bridges will work, but the performance will not be as high as with the new bridge.









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I can confirm that the older SLI bridges will work, but the performance will not be as high as with the new bridge.













Thanks Chris. I appreciate the info. I really had no idea the SLI bridge was used to transfer that much data that it has an impact on performance.



Can you possibly comment on if the GTX 1080 will in fact be compatible with 3 way SLI?

Thanks Chris. I appreciate the info. I really had no idea the SLI bridge was used to transfer that much data that it has an impact on performance.Can you possibly comment on if the GTX 1080 will in fact be compatible with 3 way SLI?

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) I hate that the nvidia logo doesn't light up like the older ones. 2x the bandwidth is good though.



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Hi,

I can confirm that the older SLI bridges will work, but the performance will not be as high as with the new bridge.







Really? Damn. I purchased a $30 EVGA Pro SLI bridge for SLI 980, and now I need a new bridge for SLI 1080? =(



Will EVGA offer their own 1080 bridges that support the higher bandwidth? At launch hopefully? :)





Really? Damn. I purchased a $30 EVGA Pro SLI bridge for SLI 980, and now I need a new bridge for SLI 1080? =(Will EVGA offer their own 1080 bridges that support the higher bandwidth? At launch hopefully? :)

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The new HB SLI bridges will be able to offer twice as much transfer bandwidth as opposed to the older SLI bridges. It's also supposed to make Surround Gaming better, but I don't understand how the SLI bridge affects Surround.







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right now in maxwell the SLI is not working at 200% (2 gpus at 100%) we will be able to achieve that % with pascal??

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So, with this new BRIDGE, we are going to have more "compatibily" on sli?

right now in maxwell the SLI is not working at 200% (2 gpus at 100%) we will be able to achieve that % with pascal??





Not likely. This move is likely being done not because the current SLI bridge is exhausted but they're laying the groundwork for future advancements. (whatever comes after pascal)



The SLI bridge is really only used for frame syncing so it's not like super intense data is being exchanged between the multiple cards.



High utilization requires (100% per card or at least 90%+) requires high quality drivers. It takes a lot of effort to make games and drivers scale out to multiple cards. Most of the time they aim for middle road and we get left with poor multi card scaling.



My first gaming rig was 2 way SLI GTX 275. My second and current rig is 3 way Titans. I honestly wouldn't do SLI of any kind ever again. Scaling is poor. I'd rather upgrade every generation than deal with poorly written SLI drivers.

post edited by bee144 - Not likely. This move is likely being done not because the current SLI bridge is exhausted but they're laying the groundwork for future advancements. (whatever comes after pascal)The SLI bridge is really only used for frame syncing so it's not like super intense data is being exchanged between the multiple cards.High utilization requires (100% per card or at least 90%+) requires high quality drivers. It takes a lot of effort to make games and drivers scale out to multiple cards. Most of the time they aim for middle road and we get left with poor multi card scaling.My first gaming rig was 2 way SLI GTX 275. My second and current rig is 3 way Titans. I honestly wouldn't do SLI of any kind ever again. Scaling is poor. I'd rather upgrade every generation than deal with poorly written SLI drivers. #13

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The new HB SLI bridges will be able to offer twice as much transfer bandwidth as opposed to the older SLI bridges. It's also supposed to make Surround Gaming better, but I don't understand how the SLI bridge affects Surround.















Throughput. All the data created on the second (and third card and possibly fourth) is translated to the master card before being output. Faster throughput allows that card to move the larger the amounts of data needed for multiple screens at a more significant rate with less scheduling. Not all of the improvements are directly related to the bridge. It sounds like they did more with the bridge than they actually did when you hear them say it...

Throughput. All the data created on the second (and third card and possibly fourth) is translated to the master card before being output. Faster throughput allows that card to move the larger the amounts of data needed for multiple screens at a more significant rate with less scheduling. Not all of the improvements are directly related to the bridge. It sounds like they did more with the bridge than they actually did when you hear them say it...

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Are they going to do a proper implementation of SLI/xfire if only 3-5% of gamers use multi gpu?



I sold my 970's in sli for a EVGA 980ti hybrid 3 months ago for this reason.



Good discussion on another forum.



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I would be careful of SLI at this point. I have seen a number of articles that with DX12 games the developer of the game is responsible for getting sli/xfire to work with that game. This is the opposite of DX11 where Nvidia/ATI did the drivers. A number or places have said that gamers should get the biggest single card they can afford as sli/xfire will be in trouble if the game developers have to get SLI/xfire working in their own games.Are they going to do a proper implementation of SLI/xfire if only 3-5% of gamers use multi gpu?I sold my 970's in sli for a EVGA 980ti hybrid 3 months ago for this reason.Good discussion on another forum. [link=http://www.overclock.net/t/1594316/is-dx12-killing-sli-or-is-it-just-really-that-difficult-to-implement]http://www.overclock.net/...difficult-to-implement [/link]I will be waiting for the proper 980TI replacement that should come along in 6-10 months. #15

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I can confirm that the older SLI bridges will work, but the performance will not be as high as with the new bridge.











A nice little premium tax on SLI users. Oh you bought the $30 bridge did you? (I did) Now you need this new one that gives extra performance.

A nice little premium tax on SLI users. Oh you bought the $30 bridge did you? (I did) Now you need this new one that gives extra performance. #16

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http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/GeForce-GTX-1080-8GB-Founders-Edition-Review-GP104-Brings-Pascal-Gamers/SLI-C

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) Will slapping two regular SLI bridges on the two sets of fingers work the same as the new bridge or is there some kind of magic going on in there too?





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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) OK, I found an answer courtesy of the Guru3D review as far as SLI bridges are concerned...



"Beginning with NVIDIA Pascal GPUs, the two interfaces are now linked together to improve bandwidth between GPUs. This new dual-link SLI mode allows both SLI interfaces to be used in tandem to feed one Hi-res display or multiple displays for NVIDIA Surround. Dual-link SLI mode is supported with a new SLI Bridge called SLI HB. The bridge facilitates high-speed data transfer between GPUs, connecting both SLI interfaces, and is the best way to achieve full SLI clock speeds with GeForce GTX 1080 GPUs running in SLI. The GeForce GTX 1080 is also compatible with legacy SLI bridges; however, the GPU will be limited to the maximum speed of the bridge being used. Using this new SLI HB Bridge, GeForce GTX 1080’s new SLI interface runs at 650 MHz, compared to 400 MHz in previous GeForce GPUs using legacy SLI bridges. Where possible though, older SLI Bridges will also get a speed boost when used with Pascal. Specifically, custom bridges that include LED lighting will now operate at up to 650 MHz when used with GTX 1080, taking advantage of Pascal’s higher speed IO. "





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I also find it strange that the LED versions of the SLI bridges are deemed compatible for higher refresh rate displays than the old ribbon/pcb bridges. I didn't think there was any actual performance difference between the two.



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I cannot wait to see what the EVGA version will look like

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) just an idea throwing it out there

Hopefully the new HB Bridges from EVGA come with LED Lights matching the 1080sjust an idea throwing it out there

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Nvidia has them priced at $30 (though not yet in stock). I imagine that'll be the cost.

Nvidia has them priced at $30 (though not yet in stock). I imagine that'll be the cost.

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post edited by demo23019 - They should release now so we have when we get our cards there is no mention here, amazon or even at microcenter who will carry on 27th #25

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) From the OP First Post this HB Bridge is only for 2-Way SLI.

I wonder if they plan on a 3-Way and 4-Way HB Bridge?



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post edited by demo23019 - Prob not from nvidia they don't recommending more than 2 but that's not to say EVGA wont make any but im not sure if high bandwidth will work outside of 2 cards. #27

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Hi,



I can confirm that the older SLI bridges will work, but the performance will not be as high as with the new bridge.







Do the first generation EVGA LED SLI bridges provide the same mid-range bandwidth like your current bridges? As in... more bandwidth than standard ribbon bridges, but less than the new HB bridges. NVIDIA says the currrent LED bridges are right in the middle of the road, and work fine for 4K 60Hz (my current setup), but since my bridge is fairly old (but still LED) I just want to verify.

Do the first generation EVGA LED SLI bridges provide the same mid-range bandwidth like your current bridges? As in... more bandwidth than standard ribbon bridges, but less than the new HB bridges. NVIDIA says the currrent LED bridges are right in the middle of the road, and work fine for 4K 60Hz (my current setup), but since my bridge is fairly old (but still LED) I just want to verify.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge permalink) Does anyone know when the new SLI HB Bridge's will be available to buy anywhere?



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