I’ve got some sad news, so I’ll just come out and say it. Preach is ending. It’s my fault, I take full responsibility. I accepted a new job with All Things Considered at NPR headquarters in Washington, D.C., and unfortunately that means leaving KUER and Preach behind. It’s an exciting opportunity. But I’m very sad, heartbroken even, about moving on from a show and all of you who mean so much to me.



In the early days of Preach, our team used to joke that the show would end with me joining a new faith and finding answers to all of life’s biggest questions. Obviously that wasn’t the point, and that didn’t happen. But I wouldn’t say it’s too far off from where I ended up. Making this show didn’t lead me to join another faith or cause me to further commit to my own. But I do feel more settled and more at peace.



The hope with Preach was that some people might want to hear a fun, existential conversation every now and then. I greatly underestimated how hungry we all are to talk about these things. And to talk about them in a way that is frank and honest. Because we’re all a little bit messy, especially when it comes to finding peace in a strange and surprising world (where microscopic viruses can bring life as we know it to a screeching halt).

This final episode is a conversation between me and my producer Tricia Bobeda. It’s about what we’ve learned making this show. The moments that have stuck with us. And what’s next.

Thank you for listening.

Take care,

Lee Hale

