Stewart

join:2005-07-13 2 edits Stewart Member Anyone with T-Mobile DIGITS or Simple Global?



If your browser is open to DIGITS (WebRTC) or you are running the DIGITS desktop app when a call comes in, does the app start ringing first? If so and you answer quickly, does it avoid ringing the mobile? If you answer after the mobile has started to ring, does it avoid showing a missed call on the mobile? If you answer on the mobile, does it avoid showing a missed call in the app?



Any obvious channel limitations, e.g. if the mobile is on a call, can you make one from the app? Receive one?



If the mobile is off or out of range with the app running, can you still answer with the app, or does the call go immediately to voicemail?



If you answer on the app and send the call to your mobile, which caller ID shows on the mobile?



If you transfer a call to another number, are both blind and attended available? For each, which caller ID does the transferred-to party see?



If you establish a three-way call in the app, can you disconnect such that the two outside parties remain connected?



Are calls in the app ever HD (wideband)? If so, under what conditions?



If you have roamed on Simple Global, which carriers were used? Was mobile data connection adequate for VoIP?



Any other notable experiences (DIGITS, roaming or T-Mobile in general), good or bad?



Thanks,



Stewart With their new pricing for seniors, I've been considering switching to T-Mobile, with hope of integrating DIGITS with my existing PBX; see » T-Mobile Unveils New Unlimited Data Plan for Older Folks [56] comments . A few questions not answered on their website or forum:If your browser is open to DIGITS (WebRTC) or you are running the DIGITS desktop app when a call comes in, does the app start ringing first? If so and you answer quickly, does it avoid ringing the mobile? If you answer after the mobile has started to ring, does it avoid showing a missed call on the mobile? If you answer on the mobile, does it avoid showing a missed call in the app?Any obvious channel limitations, e.g. if the mobile is on a call, can you make one from the app? Receive one?If the mobile is off or out of range with the app running, can you still answer with the app, or does the call go immediately to voicemail?If you answer on the app and send the call to your mobile, which caller ID shows on the mobile?If you transfer a call to another number, are both blind and attended available? For each, which caller ID does the transferred-to party see?If you establish a three-way call in the app, can you disconnect such that the two outside parties remain connected?Are calls in the app ever HD (wideband)? If so, under what conditions?If you have roamed on Simple Global, which carriers were used? Was mobile data connection adequate for VoIP?Any other notable experiences (DIGITS, roaming or T-Mobile in general), good or bad?Thanks,Stewart



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cb14 Member I cannot give you answers to the questions above, I switched to the plan yesterday and do not plan international use in the near future.

You may want to try their tech support, with some luck you may get a dude or gal on the line who is knowledgeable. Regular CS knows less than what you find on the web site.

As far as roaming with TMO my experience is not recent and only audio, no data. I prefer having a local cellphone , especially now with the end of roaming charges in EU countries( caveat:only applies to incoming calls and outgoing calls to the country of the phone's registration, for any other outgoing calls the charges may be steep).

My former experience with TMO roaming was that you could choose the roaming carrier, more or less. In countries with TMO presence your best bet is TMO and it usually has excellent coverage, especially in Germany.

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Howard Forums has a long discussion about DIGITS here:

»www.howardforums.com/sho ··· e+digits



It seems an interesting offering.



I have two T-Mobile lines (unlimited talk and text and 2G data) with a business T-Mobile Reseller (4GAS -- top notch) for $50.00/month with no additional taxes or nuisance fees. Apparently, business accounts with more than one number don't qualify for DIGITS.



ONE seems to be a good deal if you're a heavy data user. I'm not, hence, spending an extra $10.00/month would be a waste of money for me. Hello, Stewart Howard Forums has a long discussion about DIGITS here:It seems an interesting offering.I have two T-Mobile lines (unlimited talk and text and 2G data) with a business T-Mobile Reseller (4GAS -- top notch) for $50.00/month with no additional taxes or nuisance fees. Apparently, business accounts with more than one number don't qualify for DIGITS.ONE seems to be a good deal if you're a heavy data user. I'm not, hence, spending an extra $10.00/month would be a waste of money for me.

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Here is a very good explanation of what it is exactly:

»www.nojitter.com/post/24 ··· le-digit Did a little more reading and T-Mobile DIGITS is quite impressive -- probably the up and coming cellular technology.Here is a very good explanation of what it is exactly:



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I have been using the digits app on my computer and an old cell. Usually the PC APP rings first. Sorry, cannot attest to the rest of your questions. I am interested in learning how to implement putting DIGITS in a pbx to make, receive calls. If you implement it, please document it for the rest of us. 😀



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said by Cinti: Did a little more reading and T-Mobile DIGITS is quite impressive -- probably the up and coming cellular technology.



Here is a very good explanation of what it is exactly:

»www.nojitter.com/post/24 ··· le-digit



Web based voicemail retrieval and now emailed voicemail. This is all sounding like home. That article is incorrect. It is very much IP based. I installed digits on my old phone that doesn't even have a sim card.Web based voicemail retrieval and now emailed voicemail. This is all sounding like home.



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf Member So how is DIGITS different than Google Voice or other VoIP providers similar offerings?

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With regard to HD calling, when calling an AMR-WB capable phone, T-Mobile transcodes from Opus to AMR-WB and the call shows as HD for the T-Mobile customer you call.



Edit: My offer of temp lines for playing with Digits is open, if your interested in building something to tie it into SIP. Really want that awesome Opus audio for my GXP2170! I have extra lines you can use to try out WebDigits, sent you a PM with login creds. FYI it is just a WebRTC implementation, though its not the greatest. Opus & G711 are offered as codecs in WebDigits, but AMR-WB is notably missing from the SDPWith regard to HD calling, when calling an AMR-WB capable phone, T-Mobile transcodes from Opus to AMR-WB and the call shows as HD for the T-Mobile customer you call.Edit: My offer of temp lines for playing with Digits is open, if your interested in building something to tie it into SIP. Really want that awesome Opus audio for my GXP2170!

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Re: Anyone with T-Mobile DIGITS or Simple Global? Yeah, I'm interested in fiddling around with one



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said by josephf: So how is DIGITS different than Google Voice or other VoIP providers similar offerings?



DIGITS is one number that rings multiple devices. You can also buy extra numbers that ring your phone, having a secondary number that rings one or multiple devices. You can turn on or off secondary numbers.



In other words, you can get a phone number that isn't tied to a specific line (i.e., I have 815.111.1111, my wife has 815.111.1112, and we can share a third line 815.111.1113). Both of us can turn on or off x.1113 so it rings or it doesn't. The main number on our phone always stays active. However I can also answer and make calls, send texts, etc on my wife's line and the shared line from my phone (with the app).



Or I can download the app on my computer and use all three lines to call or text.

You can download the app on an old android phone or tablet (Android 5.0 and above) and make calls over wifi with that device.



You can also buy an extra sim and use the same number on multiple devices, like a smart watch and your cell.



Calls from my smart phone can be made using either data or with the phone's minutes.



Alternately, in a business setting, you could have one number ring multiple phones like in a sales office setting. Whoever's quickest to answer gets the sale.



When using the app, you can transfer the call to another device. However if you take the call on the main phone (not using the app) I don't believe you can transfer the call to another line, at least I haven't figured it out yet.



There is a lot of flexibility in how you can use it. It took me a while to wrap my head around it and I'm probably still missing something. I hope this helps. This is a paid offering and at the end of the day it let's you share a number across devices or have multiple numbers on one device.DIGITS is one number that rings multiple devices. You can also buy extra numbers that ring your phone, having a secondary number that rings one or multiple devices. You can turn on or off secondary numbers.In other words, you can get a phone number that isn't tied to a specific line (i.e., I have 815.111.1111, my wife has 815.111.1112, and we can share a third line 815.111.1113). Both of us can turn on or off x.1113 so it rings or it doesn't. The main number on our phone always stays active. However I can also answer and make calls, send texts, etc on my wife's line and the shared line from my phone (with the app).Or I can download the app on my computer and use all three lines to call or text.You can download the app on an old android phone or tablet (Android 5.0 and above) and make calls over wifi with that device.You can also buy an extra sim and use the same number on multiple devices, like a smart watch and your cell.Calls from my smart phone can be made using either data or with the phone's minutes.Alternately, in a business setting, you could have one number ring multiple phones like in a sales office setting. Whoever's quickest to answer gets the sale.When using the app, you can transfer the call to another device. However if you take the call on the main phone (not using the app) I don't believe you can transfer the call to another line, at least I haven't figured it out yet.There is a lot of flexibility in how you can use it. It took me a while to wrap my head around it and I'm probably still missing something. I hope this helps.



josephf

join:2009-04-26 josephf Member Sounds extremely similar to Google Voice.



commbunch

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Hampshire, IL commbunch Member It is similar, except it is also tied to paid T-Mobile cell service. As others are often quick to point out about GV, I have a little more faith in this because it is tied to a paid product so as long as enough people are using it, I don't have to worry about it disappearing tomorrow.



Google Voice is OK, but if you use the line for business like I do, I believe there is a maximum number of call attempts before you have to wait to make more calls. Also, I don't experience the delay in receiving calls that I often encountered with Google Voice (several rings on the other end before it rings on mine). And then there is the caveat that Google can pull the plug on GV at any time (yes, I know they've kept it going for 10 years with no end in sight, but you never know when/if they will decide to pull the pug). These things were the killer for me.

Stewart

join:2005-07-13 2 recommendations Stewart Member said by josephf: Sounds extremely similar to Google Voice.



GV is not much different from forking VoIP calls to your mobile with any of dozens of VoIP providers, or with your own PBX. There are a few advantages (free, MMS support, voicemail transcription), but many disadvantages (no support, forwarding limited to US, nonstandard protocol, no control over when phones ring or when voicemail answers, poor spam filtering, etc.); FreePBX is better suited to my needs. But without aid from the mobile operator, there are still numerous shortcomings.



IMO, cell phones are greatly inferior to desk phones; I use them only when mobility is required. Disadvantages include poor ergonomics, variable voice quality (sometimes HD, but usually worse than landline), battery life issues, needless exposure to radiation, can't use screen/keypad while listening to handset, crappy speakerphone, etc.). In addition, using a mobile phone at home requires you to carry it around, rather than having several devices conveniently located in various rooms.



In my present system, most contacts have only my home number. When an incoming call passes spam filtering, it rings the desk phone first. If unanswered after a few seconds, other home phones start to ring. A few seconds later, the mobile also starts ringing.



Problems with current system:



1. Calling from mobile: Dialing directly reveals the cell number. Even if to a friend, he may not recognize the number and not answer, or he may return the call from history or voicemail, which then can't be answered at home. Calling with a VoIP app, a spotty data connection results in poor voice quality. Calling via DISA, DTMF is sometimes unreliable. If calling another mobile, quality is degraded by additional latency and two passes through narrowband codec.



2. Significant voice quality degradation on received mobile-to-mobile calls, from same causes as above.



3. No calls (home or mobile) are HD.



4. No spam filtering on calls made directly to mobile; third party apps are pretty lame.



5. No MMS support.



6. Some companies will not accept a VoIP number as 'mobile' for two-factor authentication.



7. Calls answered but not quickly on a home phone (cell has started to ring) result in a false missed call on the mobile.



8. Syncing contacts between home and cell must be done manually.



With DIGITS, if it can be integrated with the PBX, I hope to eliminate all of the above problems and enjoy full quality on all calls, in HD whenever the contact's phone is compatible. IMO, proper fixed/mobile integration is not possible without the cooperation of the mobile carrier. These are very different products.GV is not much different from forking VoIP calls to your mobile with any of dozens of VoIP providers, or with your own PBX. There are a few advantages (free, MMS support, voicemail transcription), but many disadvantages (no support, forwarding limited to US, nonstandard protocol, no control over when phones ring or when voicemail answers, poor spam filtering, etc.); FreePBX is better suited to my needs. But without aid from the mobile operator, there are still numerous shortcomings.IMO, cell phones are greatly inferior to desk phones; I use them only when mobility is required. Disadvantages include poor ergonomics, variable voice quality (sometimes HD, but usually worse than landline), battery life issues, needless exposure to radiation, can't use screen/keypad while listening to handset, crappy speakerphone, etc.). In addition, using a mobile phone at home requires you to carry it around, rather than having several devices conveniently located in various rooms.In my present system, most contacts have only my home number. When an incoming call passes spam filtering, it rings the desk phone first. If unanswered after a few seconds, other home phones start to ring. A few seconds later, the mobile also starts ringing.Problems with current system:1. Calling from mobile: Dialing directly reveals the cell number. Even if to a friend, he may not recognize the number and not answer, or he may return the call from history or voicemail, which then can't be answered at home. Calling with a VoIP app, a spotty data connection results in poor voice quality. Calling via DISA, DTMF is sometimes unreliable. If calling another mobile, quality is degraded by additional latency and two passes through narrowband codec.2. Significant voice quality degradation on received mobile-to-mobile calls, from same causes as above.3. No calls (home or mobile) are HD.4. No spam filtering on calls made directly to mobile; third party apps are pretty lame.5. No MMS support.6. Some companies will not accept a VoIP number as 'mobile' for two-factor authentication.7. Calls answered but not quickly on a home phone (cell has started to ring) result in a false missed call on the mobile.8. Syncing contacts between home and cell must be done manually.With DIGITS, if it can be integrated with the PBX, I hope to eliminate all of the above problems and enjoy full quality on all calls, in HD whenever the contact's phone is compatible.



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I have been using DIGITS with T-Mobile for the past few months. I am disappointed with it since it seems to have the potential to be much more than what it currently is.



Despite DIGITS using IP calling, it won't integrate well with a PBX.



If your mobile is off and you are signed into the app on your computer, your computer will still ring for an incoming call.



If you answer a call on one device, you cannot send the call to another. Call transfer is also not a feature that is offered.



I don't use 3 way calling, so I don't know if you are able to disconnect one party from the call.



Calls between T-Mobile customers will be in HD.



T-Mobile offers 128kbps while roaming internationally. I've seen several reports that this is sufficient for voip calling.

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join:2013-03-25 VoipisGreat Member said by crazyk4952: T-Mobile offers 128kbps while roaming internationally. I've seen several reports that this is sufficient for voip calling. So with DIGITS, I can call a US number without charge while roaming internationally? Without DIGITS, while roaming overseas, I can only call a US number without additional charge using the wifi-calling feature.