Syndic schrieb: You're also using a bogus scenario - narrow choke, pierce, people who don't know what they're doing.



Syndic schrieb: This game isn't built around ZvZ and it sucks balance-wise at ZvZ, that should be evident to everyone. If you want a good ZvZ experience you picked the wrong game to play.



a weapon with 15m range + a cast time (cancellable) of 2s with less damages and a smaller area (so reduce the number of enemies by 2+ and increase the AoE escalation)

a weapon with melee range + a cast time (uncancellable) of 0.9s + requiring 3 stacks with slightly more damages and an area bigger than an icicle + reducing the max HP of enemies by 10% for 7s



narrow choke: yespierce: happenspeople who don't know what they are doing: nope sry. We just had an incomplete comp...But yeh its rare to have a choke and a pierceNow you want to add a comparison with different weapons? at least do it right.That's actually where you are completely wrong and think for yourself as one of the 50ish players that plays GvG (almost only). If you didnt notice, this game has a whole world outside of instancied content where wildfire is shit.And if you didnt notice, a lot of changes are concerning weapons designed for zerg (yes it exists !).I personnaly have had a good ZvZ experience, thing that your whole alliance cant say (except if running simulator is your favourite game). But maybe i got good at ZvZ?Now that i told you that the game doesnt only rely on GvG maybe we can talk about balancing ?So lets see some actual numbers:a 1120 IP galatines will deal 1115 mdmg + 10% enemy health true dmg (around 220dmg) on a 9m radius(an icicle has 8m radius if you want a comparison)a 1120 IP brimstone will deal 1393 mdmg (so 278 more damages reduced by resistances) on a 5m radiusbasically more damages in a bigger area (yes the 278 are reduced by around 36% if you pierce the target to the maximum possible which is hard)So we have:(if you didnt know, AoE escalation has an enormous impact in ZvZ fights)A lot of people complained about longbow and halberd (yes there is a lot of people playing ZvZ) because they are OP.One is nerfed, the other is still broken, so lets bring another broken OP to the table.Now @Syndic if you want to talk about balance, please do it with actual / comparable examples and keep your ridiculous statements for yourself. (and if you don't want to talk about balance then gtfo of this thread)