papery Profile Joined January 2011 4 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-10 15:51:44 #1



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In the long block of text that follows the bracket GomTV addresses the complaints people have been having regarding IM's exclusion. They state that to choose the teams that will participate, they used the same method they have been using since the beginning of this year, and that the brackets and teams included for GSTL May will not change. However, they do also state that they understand the general dissatisfaction in the community and are currently discussing potential solutions to the problem.



The method they use to choose teams is as follows:

Total Points = (1.6x + 1y) where

x = number of players in Code S

y = number of players in Code A



oGs : 13.8 (8+1)

TSL : 10.0 (5+2)

Prime : 9.0 (5.1)

StarTale : 8.8 (3+4)

SlayerS : 8.6 (1+7)

MVP : 7.6 (1+6)

ZeNEX : 6.2 (2+3)

fOu : 5.6 (1+4)

IM : 5.2 (2+2)

NS호서 : 3.6 (1+2)

Liquid : 3.2 (2+0)

FOX : 1.6 (1+0)

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Edit: New map announced for GSTL



"Bel'Shir Beach"







GomTV announced the GSTL May teams and Ro8 brackets.In the long block of text that follows the bracket GomTV addresses the complaints people have been having regarding IM's exclusion. They state that to choose the teams that will participate, they used the same method they have been using since the beginning of this year, and that the brackets and teams included for GSTL May will not change. However, they do also state that they understand the general dissatisfaction in the community and are currently discussing potential solutions to the problem.The method they use to choose teams is as follows:Total Points = (1.6x + 1y) wherex = number of players in Code Sy = number of players in Code AoGs : 13.8 (8+1)TSL : 10.0 (5+2)Prime : 9.0 (5.1)StarTale : 8.8 (3+4)SlayerS : 8.6 (1+7)MVP : 7.6 (1+6)ZeNEX : 6.2 (2+3)fOu : 5.6 (1+4)IM : 5.2 (2+2)NS호서 : 3.6 (1+2)Liquid : 3.2 (2+0)FOX : 1.6 (1+0) Source (search comments for "Ethan_Ahn")Edit: New map announced for GSTL"Bel'Shir Beach"

I)etox Profile Joined April 2011 1240 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:10:52 #2 Begin the hype!!



oGs vs. ST so early... that should be interesting.



Edit: Sigh. IM losing to fOu by .4 points... MVP being in Code A basically lost IM their seat :\

blade55555 Profile Blog Joined March 2009 United States 17375 Posts #3 wow thats interesting (IM has made it too the finals both times won once, lost once right?). Yeah GOM needs too fix that somehow xD. But glad too see another team league. I really hope there's a "proleague" like system like bw where its 4 1v1's and an ace 1v1 and switches with winners league every x amount of months.



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Boblhead Profile Joined August 2010 United States 2574 Posts #4 whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?

1800STFU Profile Joined February 2011 158 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:07:03 #5 They need to find a way to put IM in......it's a crime they're excluded

ESPRITsc Profile Joined April 2011 196 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:08:24 #6



Wow IM didn't qualify. Sad. On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:

whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?



Read before you post.



Read before you post. The method they use to choose teams is as follows:

Total Points = (1.6x + 1y) where

x = number of players in Code S

y = number of players in Code A

stangstang Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 281 Posts #7 On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:

whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?



and they only had 3 players in the GSL, while the team that replaced them (MVP) had more and they only had 3 players in the GSL, while the team that replaced them (MVP) had more

GertHeart Profile Blog Joined February 2011 United States 623 Posts #8 Wow, I'm sad that IM is not in it. You could just let the other teams join and just have ALL compete o.o; He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert

stangstang Profile Joined August 2010 Canada 281 Posts #9 it puts more emphasis on the team and less on a single or couple players carrying the team.

Belisarius Profile Joined November 2010 Australia 2588 Posts #10 Also, totally ignoring the IM thing because it's pretty obviously retarded; what the heck is up with the brackets?

oGs (1st) plays ST (4th) in the first round. Seriously, guys, seeds. Seeds are good. At least SlayerS is on the other side of the bracket.

Daralii Profile Joined March 2010 United States 8552 Posts #11 It's too bad that IM didn't qualify, but I can't exactly argue with GOM's system. Hopefully we'll get some good Keen ceremonies. :D Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!

Alou Profile Blog Joined March 2010 United States 3747 Posts #12 Rooting for TSL as always. They're going to win this time! Life is Good.

boarmelon Profile Joined November 2010 1 Post #13 SlayerS vs oGs finals.

Valikyr Profile Joined June 2010 Sweden 2646 Posts #14 . Guess I'll be cheering for oGs then. Bah, IM is my favourite team. Guess I'll be cheering for oGs then.

bittman Profile Joined February 2011 Australia 8308 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:15:30 #15 Don't bash it if you don't have a solution. What should GOM do, change the rules so MVP, an upcoming team, doesn't have a chance? If memory serves me right SlayerS were an upcoming team, look what the GSTL did for them.



Only things I could think of to make it work could be:

1) Ro16 - issue being, there aren't this many teams unless they expand to "Code B".

2) Provide variety to the points given based on results - That is: the grand finalists might earn a team 1.9 points, whilst a 4th place Code S group-er might only get 1.1 points for example.

3) A "points" limit which potentially gives lower point teams an extra round. Allows for a "Ro9/10/11/12" for example.



Either way, a solution should be engineered. They can't just hope on the promise that a few teams will control most of the points so its easy to make a Ro8 forever. Heck, if they want to get international players, they are guaranteeing more teams will take points here and there.



EDIT: 4) they could use the same points rankings used for the Super Tournament: pooling the points earned for each player as potential qualifying points for the team. The Super Tournament is not shy on players from different teams... Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO

JJH777 Profile Joined January 2011 United States 3475 Posts #16 Wow definitely not buying a ticket. That's ridiculous. IM is the reason the first two team league were so amazing.

trikshun Profile Joined October 2010 United States 437 Posts #17 Why wouldn't IM or Slayers get automatic qualification for finishing top 2. MVP could probably all kill MVP with ease...

Chicane Profile Joined November 2010 United States 7143 Posts Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:18:54 #18



I am very surprised that their team (MVP) did so well... I thought they would take a long time before we started seeing some decent players from them, but they really picked it up.



Edit: Woo! And if they don't make a good showing then at least Prime finally gets to move up for once!



Edit 2:



I was actually waiting for this to happen. They have always been at the bottom in terms of points as a team... and all of a sudden MVP exploded in Code A. I'm actually very interested to see how they do.I am very surprised that their team (MVP) did so well... I thought they would take a long time before we started seeing some decent players from them, but they really picked it up.Edit: Woo! And if they don't make a good showing then at least Prime finally gets to move up for once!Edit 2: On May 10 2011 14:06 blade55555 wrote:

wow thats interesting (IM has made it too the finals both times won once, lost once right?). Yeah GOM needs too fix that somehow xD. But glad too see another team league. I really hope there's a "proleague" like system like bw where its 4 1v1's and an ace 1v1 and switches with winners league every x amount of months.







You know... I kind of agree and I kind of disagree about Gom needing to "fix" it. I think IM is definitely deserving and it sucks that they are not in it, but at the same time it is a team league. They should have many players in the GSL, not just a few who are used to take down large chunks of teams. But then again at the same time, they still have good Code B players who are simply having trouble getting in, but are still really contributing.



I think the best solution would simply be to have 2 groups of 5 where the 5 teams play round robin. The top 2 of each group of 5 go against the 3rd and 4th teams... but then again that means they would need to cast WAY more games... and I don't think that's something they want to do... at least not at this point. You know... I kind of agree and I kind of disagree about Gom needing to "fix" it. I think IM is definitely deserving and it sucks that they are not in it, but at the same time it is a team league. They should have many players in the GSL, not just a few who are used to take down large chunks of teams. But then again at the same time, they still have good Code B players who are simply having trouble getting in, but are still really contributing.I think the best solution would simply be to have 2 groups of 5 where the 5 teams play round robin. The top 2 of each group of 5 go against the 3rd and 4th teams... but then again that means they would need to cast WAY more games... and I don't think that's something they want to do... at least not at this point.

BuffaloSoljah Profile Joined March 2011 United States 31 Posts #19 honastly if they tallied up the totals AFTER the up and down matches this would not have been a problem as MVP would most likely been in code S but excluding IM is not goms fault but MVPs fault for losing three series inna row and falling to code A he was the difference maker in the last GSTL that gave them their spot and in this one in losing their spot

ReachTheSky Profile Joined April 2010 United States 3110 Posts #20 On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:

whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?



Top teams get decided by results. Surely you can't be considered a top team if you don't have the current results to back it up. The other teams that are ahead of IM have proven, by showing results, that they are indeed a top team. I do agree that IM is a very good team, but if they aren't proving it consistantly then where is the credibility? Top teams get decided by results. Surely you can't be considered a top team if you don't have the current results to back it up. The other teams that are ahead of IM have proven, by showing results, that they are indeed a top team. I do agree that IM is a very good team, but if they aren't proving it consistantly then where is the credibility? Zerg is hands down the easiest race to play.

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