MSNBC terrorism analyst Malcolm Nance discusses President Trump's first meeting with Stephanie Ruhle and author Masha Gessen.



Gessen said that President Trump was "literally more than figuratively" turning the U.S. into a "mafia state."



"Russia is absolutely a mafia state," she said. "Although Trump is starting to establush his own mafia state in the United States, more literally so than figuratively. A mafia state is a state run by a family for its own profit. We are starting to have that here in the United States."



Nance agreed and added: "With atomic bombs!!"



Nance continued, calling the Trump administration "a Putin-led march to autocracy."



"He wants a United States that is much more like Russia. He wanted MArine le Pen in France: Much more like Russia. It is going to be very interesting to see whether Donald Trump really affiliates with that, whether he really sees himself as either a person who is going to be mentored by Vladimir Putin to bring our form of government closer to Russia's," Nance said.



"It is really going to end up with the country being exposed to Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin glad-handing, as opposed to Obama and Putin sitting and looking sternly at each other. When you see that point, then you lnow that those two have reached parity," he added.