"Demon King started attacking with the Demon Gods Why?" threads. The juries is still out, but I like how people start to think about that stuff in theory threads.

Fuck it, I'll translate one of the threads!

>"The Cardinals sure were fine mind controlling Catastrophe DL as a meat shield huh?" and people going

>"Super Tier magic got used 200 years ago, but was it Leader, his buddy or Minotaur Sage who did it?" and so forth.

> "Well Leader seems to be some kind of warrior and so does Minotaur... so it was his buddy?"

>"Hey, if the Demon Gods were all mostly lower level than Evileye according ot Maru, why did PDL have to even team up with them? I don't get it..."

> "Well Ainz said Players woudl mostly side with the Theocracy and even Minotaur sage made life better for humans. So why did Leader and his buddy split up or kill each other?"

> "Leader and his buddy come to New World together. Leader stays in a village since he's so weak and doesn't want to slow his friend down who is curious what's going on. Leader's buddy goes to one of the largest and oldest nations in the region that is pro human, the Theocracy. Theocracy finds this out, somehow due to his strength or gear, and midn control him. And then the Demon Gods go on a rampage, since they seem to be the NPCs of the 6GGs but they didn't do it before 200 years ago...".

> "Were they not just rampaging... but trying to do something? Like purging the New World for humans?"

>"But the Theocracy said an angel beat a Demon God. " "Wasn't it only Nigun who thought Ainz was a Demon God... the Cardinals and Black Scripture don't even consider the possibilty they are Demon Gods, but Nigun does... Even Evileye thought Jaldaboath was a Demon God at first, but way stronger..."

> "Were the Cardinals the ones that mobilized the Demon Gods with the mind controlled Player?"

> "But why do it?"

>"Well Players have absurd level caps like Leader and keep growing... Wait, were they trying to power level him to beat True Dragon Lords or take out the Eight Greed King captial?"

> "NANI?! It's the Evil Church Mind Controls the Isekaied Guy to Turn Him Into a Weapon trope!?!??!?!? Fuck off Maru why does this make sense!?!?!?!??"

> "WTF? lol it totally makes sense and they have the item to do it too lol They were pumping up their little 'Demon King' to take all the blame for them genociding all the inferior races and they swope in, kill him and take credit for saving humanity lol"

>"OH MAH GAWD! They used Nigun's Angel to kill only one Demon God just to prove to their idiot followers that 'Hey look, we can defend against the Demon Gods thanks to how much you all pray! Good job everyone! Thanks to all you church goers, the Theocracy can ward off all the Demon Gods alone!' kind of deal! It's like Yakuza in Kansai! Those ass holes didn't use their World Item or Godkin to fight the Demon Gods because the Demon Gods were their Jaldaboath!!!! The Theocracy from 200 years ago Demiurge'd the world before Demiurge!! lolololol"

>"No wonder Demon Gods are never brought up by the Cardinals or Godkin lol They were just puppets dancing on the Theocracies strings lol"

>"That's why PDL couldnt' solo the Demon Gods! The Demon King was a moderately leveled Player or something and he got Super Tier magic or something! It sure wasn't Leader or the Minotaur guy! The Theocracy was trying to get him Super Tier! That's why the Theocracy knows about Tier 11 even though Maru said that Super Tier magic was only used 500 and 200 years ago!"

>"lol You guys just Detective Conan'ed this hahaha"

>"No one got mad at the Minor Gods becoming Demon Gods because they only used the ones no one knew about and used a phony Demon King THEY made to make up some stupid origin story! Did Tite Kubo make the manga for this or something lol"

>"Aizen lol Demon King is Ichigo. New World is Soul Society. Cardinals are Aizen. Urahara-san is PDL lol going 'This doesn't make sense...' "

>"lol we've solved it guys!"

>"So let me summarize it. The Cardinals never mention that Ainz might be an unsealed Demon god or Jaldbaoth might be a Demon God unlike Evileye or Nigun did because they have the list of all their NPCs right? And so you guys are thinking Nigun thought of it, but they didn't because they know the truth of 200 years ago? Like I get you guys like that pattern of the evil church makes the demon king from an isekai guy. But they only thing that supports it is that Super Tier and from what we know the Minotaur and Leader were not mages based off what we do know. I don't know guys..."

>"Wktwkt You forgot how Leader killed his friend and the pattern of 'I killed the Demon King but NOOO it was my friend or a cute girl or my cute child hood friend!' pattern lol"

>"wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww OH MAH GAWD wwwwwww She wakes up from the midn control near death and goes all 'It's not your fault Leader-kun... I was forced to power level (genocide)... You had to stop me... BLAH (dies)' wwwww"

>wwww Well, grass growing aside, PDL not using the Guild Sword himself and giving it to Leader instead makes sense then. He wasn't strong enough to beat a power leveled Player with some NPCs covering for them. PDL might not even have started to make the 13 Hereos alliance until he felt Super Tier magic go off and realize the Demon King is the next 8 Greed Kings haha. He lucked out and found Leader trying to stop the Demon King and Demon Gods and so he didn't have to risk fighting alone since none of the other old dragons care enough to stop this lol"

>"It's funny yeah. About only a Player could scare a True Dragon Lord into siding with others to fight it. "

>"Well if the Theocracy was really behind this, maybe the Demon Gods were so weak because they only used the low level Pleaides of their guild base that people didn't know? All their Floor Guardians would be the Minor Gods right?"

>"Hmm... That's a good point... why that weak? Why not just go all out to begin with with First Follower, any Godkin, and their Tier 7 angels?..."

>"Well, maybe they were scared that True Dragon Lords might gang up on them and other Players might show up? Or maybe the 8 Greed Kings have a shit ton of children and NPCs in their guild base too so they need a max level Player to even have a chance of Blitzkrieg?"

>"Naruhodo naruhodo. They were hedging their bets. Use Demon King as the fall guy. Let him kill all those non humans with the weird non human Demon Gods. They strengthen the Demon King for the eventual world take over and get rid of some troublesome nations. "

>"Ah! So just in case if someone kills the Demon King, like other Players, they just have to say 'Good thing you stopped him guys! They attacked us too, and we just barely defended ourselves!' Those bastards... I hate the Theocracy more..."

>"lol They're just like Demi-emon lol lol Except their Jaldaboath got killed by the Momon 200 years ago, Leader-kun!"

>"lol lol lol PERFECTU!"

>"In b4 Demon King was a horned twin tail loli lol"

>"www"

>"lololol"