Knicks owner James Dolan has been dedicating more and more time to his band in recent years, but apparently has been using his music behind the scenes for years. In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Dolan was asked about a rumor that during a negotiation he got out a guitar and played a song called ‘Lockout Blues.’ Dolan replied:

“That was during the NBA lockout. I was on the negotiating committee.”

Dolan, in the interview, also channeled his inner Al Davis when asked if Phil Jackson was still worth the $12 million a year he is being paid.

“You got to believe, baby!” Dolan said. “I believe, I believe!”

Read the rest of the interview at The Hollywood Reporter.