

n2jtx

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Glen Head, NY n2jtx Member Good Luck With That The guy authored the bill and is now shocked (shocked I tell you shocked) that it was abused. There were plenty of warning that this would happen and all those warnings were ignored.



Sorry Mr. Sensenbrenner, but the damage is done and you are responsible. Live with it.

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 3 recommendations 88615298 (banned) Member Re: Good Luck With That It's like Stalin calling for Hitler's execution because Hitler is evil. Well yes, but.............



anonome

@verizon.net anonome Anon Re: Good Luck With That Well, the more people you put in a room, the lower the average IQ drops. (MiB: "People are stupid.")



Jim Kirk

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Still trying to fool people into thinking it's not you, TK? Even going anon, your writing style is obvious.

NLiveris

join:2001-11-25

Chicago, IL 1 recommendation NLiveris Member Re: Good Luck With That I 2nd that comment! I recall his past aliases: TK Junk Mail, Romney2012, throw the dems out, etc, etc. A fresh coat of paint can't hide his endless link spam and self-proclaimed journalism. Anyone can use Google and do the same thing.

Ga Dawg

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Right. Once you are wrong about something, you are never allowed to be right about anything ever again.



Bentheguy

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He is taking responsibility by trying to get it changed and get the people currently in charge fired. What more do you want as far as taking responsibility? Kill himself? I don't see what more he can do than try to fix it legally.



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You can't just say "oh the damage is done, live with it" because he's not the only one that has to live with it. He's human, he made a mistake, he fucked up, we all do it. Now he's trying to fix his mistake, not for himself, but literally for the American people.



exocet_cm

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Brooklyn, NY exocet_cm Premium Member I've seen that guy before! Isn't this a picture of Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner en-route to enforce the provisions of the Patriot Act?



Corehhi

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Bluffton, SC Corehhi Member What a Dumb Ass this guy is Give any government agency power and they will over step their power. Give them money and they will spend every last dime.



Without strict limits with everything spelled completely out any government agency will go wild. Is Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner really that naïve??? He should be gone as well for just being a Dumb ass.



ArrayList

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Mullica Hill, NJ ArrayList Premium Member Re: What a Dumb Ass this guy is thing is, the nsa has not overstepped their power. they were given congressional approval via the patriot act.



anonome

@verizon.net anonome Anon Funny thing about Sensenbrenner... his name begins with "sense"... and that where it ends, too. Well, not so funny--kind of sad really.

Squire James

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Orlando, FL Squire James Member Look Forward When the ball's flopping around on the ground, the proper move is to PICK IT UP rather than launch an investigation into who dropped it!



Fire/prosecute Clapper? Excoriate Sensenbrenner for what he did over 10 years ago? All of this pales in comparison to FIX THE PROBLEM IN FRONT OF US NOW! Geez!

HeadSpinning

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Windsor, ON HeadSpinning Member And how long before... There is a huge scandal involving Jim Sensenbrenner revealing some skeleton in his closet, completely discrediting him, and getting him booted out of office.



N3OGH

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Philly burbs N3OGH Premium Member Re: And how long before... They all have some sort of skeleton in their closet. That's the ONLY reason this shit will get fixed.



The modern day version of the East German Stasi know knows too much about the secret inner dealings of our so called leaders in Washington. Everything from their mistresses, to their obsession with My Little Pony, to their affinity for "Twink" Pr0n. It gives the NSA incredible power to blackmail people in positions of power.



Whole country is just a scary place to live at this point.....

HeadSpinning

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Windsor, ON HeadSpinning Member Re: And how long before... said by N3OGH: They all have some sort of skeleton in their closet. That's the ONLY reason this shit will get fixed. Too little, too late. The politicians don't stand a chance against the intelligence mafia.



Liberty4All

@cox.net Liberty4All Anon He foolishly thought everyone would be like him.... Authoritarians always imagine everyone in charge will think like them and want the same things but history shows that is false.



Democrats, Republicans, Communists and Fascists all have fantasies about what they would do if only they were dictator for a day. Only libertarians and anarchists know that concentrated power is always abused in the end and should be avoided.



The US Founders knew this and that's why they so carefully put in checks and balances to avoid concentration of power.



meeeeeeeeee

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Newburgh, NY meeeeeeeeee Member In all honesty Firing and prosecuting Clapper and his merry bunch of henchman would be about the ONLY way the current regime could bring any credibility and legitimacy to themselves. Until such an event happens, intelligent Americans and freedom loving people around the world will view them as "the enemy" who usurped the Constitution and created their own Amerika, a police state.



I'm kind of surprised to see Sensenbrenner come out on the side of America and support a free, constitutional government especially after having numerous exchanges with my own federal representatives, that I EXPECTED to support the Constitution and the rights and freedoms of the American People, but who have instead tacitly supported this outrage with their lack of action and their silence. I guess you never know who the "good guys" are until things hit the fan. I hope everyone takes a good, long hard look at their own representatives. If they don't support the rights and freedoms of the American People first and foremost, they really don't belong in office.



elios

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Springfield, MO elios Member Re: In all honesty he's really worried he will lose his seat

thats all he is after



meeeeeeeeee

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Newburgh, NY meeeeeeeeee Member Re: In all honesty said by elios: he's really worried he will lose his seat

thats all he is after



"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the

government fears the people, there is liberty. " - Thomas Jefferson Well, that's a good start. It's time to get ALL the Congress Critters worried."When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when thegovernment fears the people, there is liberty. " - Thomas Jefferson



elios

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Springfield, MO elios Member Re: In all honesty the issue is once he gets re-elected its back to the old tricks



meeeeeeeeee

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Newburgh, NY meeeeeeeeee Member Re: In all honesty said by NormanS: said by meeeeeeeeee: "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the

government fears the people, there is liberty. " - Thomas Jefferson



»www.monticello.org/site/ ··· uotation Did he say that? Really say that?



If it's not a direct quote Mr. Jefferson spoke those sentiments often enough to satisfy me. Can anyone say for a fact that he never spoke those words? Yes, it's on a Post-It stuck to the wall in George's Headquarters down the street with his initials on it.If it's not a direct quote Mr. Jefferson spoke those sentiments often enough to satisfy me. Can anyone say for a fact that he never spoke those words?



NormanS

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NormanS MVM Re: In all honesty said by meeeeeeeeee: Can anyone say for a fact that he never spoke those words? They are not attested prior to 1914. I am satisfied that Jefferson was long dead by them. Perhaps he spoke from the grave?



meeeeeeeeee

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Newburgh, NY meeeeeeeeee Member Re: In all honesty said by NormanS: said by meeeeeeeeee: Can anyone say for a fact that he never spoke those words? They are not attested prior to 1914. I am satisfied that Jefferson was long dead by them. Perhaps he spoke from the grave?



Clap oh clap oh clap, they call him the Clapper....Clap, clap, clap, you know what HE'S after..... Come back when you have positive proof...and back on topic, it's good to see SOMEONE in Congress calling for the prosecution of the Clapper.Clap oh clap oh clap, they call him the Clapper....Clap, clap, clap, you know what HE'S after.....



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fuziwuzi Premium Member Deflection? This topic demonstrates very well why nothing can be accomplished in our current system. Instead of directing attention to the actual problem (the overly-broad Patriot Act and the abuse that has come from it, along with the egregious and flagrant mockery done by Clapper), everyone here seems preoccupied with excoriating Sensenbrenner. Thus, nothing will ever get done about the real problem because of all the distraction and deflection.



Crappy laws

@codetel.net.do Crappy laws Anon Re: Deflection? If the patriot act scares you, check out the National Defense Authorization Act. That takes everything to a new level and was signed by the current administration. It shows that the reps and dems are all the same group of crooks.