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Chris is paired up with former WotC employee Jon Loucks this round, and he gets the lowdown on Jon’s decision to leave the company and what was his dream job. They discuss returning to competitive play and content production, Magic Online, and the Great Designer Search. Also find out why [card]Lose Hope[/card] has special meaning for Jon, why pigs and bonobo apes make him laugh and, of course, a classic Jon Loucks sign off!

Special Guest: Jon Loucks (@JonLoucks)

Interviewer: Chris Lansdell (@lansdellicious)