darkrevenge228 said: BIGBISCUIT said: darkrevenge228 said: The fascists liking your post. I'm guessing it's because they're too stupid to understand that just because truth is sprinkled into the rhetoric that doesn't make the rhetoric somehow less bullshit. It's safe to say that we can split the fascists into 2 groups. Those who know what they're doing and use subversive propaganda to sway the idiots.



and the idiots. Who don't even believe there are any real fascists anymore, and they'll "ironically" zieg heil goose step down the streets for the lulz to trigger the libtards. They're equally dangerous. Click to expand... You know, in Germany and Italy the fascists said a lot of stuff that was true. That is how they got the mass of the population behind them. They appealed to people's unhappiness in modernity.



Have you ever read The Metamorphasis by Franz Kafka? Almost everybody reads it in college. That is what that is about. It is about the alienating effects of modernity i.e. capitalism. It alienates you from other people and it alienates you from your own human nature. It dehumanizes people.



That is what Marx wrote about too. That was at the heart of his critique of capitalism. You know, in Germany and Italy the fascists said a lot of stuff that was true. That is how they got the mass of the population behind them. They appealed to people's unhappiness in modernity.Have you ever readby Franz Kafka? Almost everybody reads it in college. That is what that is about. It is about the alienating effects of modernity i.e. capitalism. It alienates you from other people and it alienates you from your own human nature. It dehumanizes people.That is what Marx wrote about too. That was at the heart of his critique of capitalism. Click to expand... I'm not saying it's not true. But I don't think that debunks my 2 type theory. There's the alienated sad losers like the people defending the bugman term, that don't even truly understand what they're swept up in. And there are the people that can see what is happening, and are politically intelligent enough to mobilize these people to their hard right cause.



Not all of them have internalized the philosophy wholly. I don't even think Trump has.



and no I haven't read it but I'll jot it down. I'm not saying it's not true. But I don't think that debunks my 2 type theory. There's the alienated sad losers like the people defending the bugman term, that don't even truly understand what they're swept up in. And there are the people that can see what is happening, and are politically intelligent enough to mobilize these people to their hard right cause.Not all of them have internalized the philosophy wholly. I don't even think Trump has.and no I haven't read it but I'll jot it down. Click to expand...

Trump is clearly not an intellectual. Dude can barely read the teleprompter.I am just saying, a lot of the fascist critique of modernity sounded a lot like the Marxist critique. They just offered different solutions to it. Mussolini started off as a socialist. A lot of the Nazis were a lot more left wing than Hitler. They wanted to go further on economic issues. People like Ernst Rohm for example. Most Nazis were middle class but they also had a sizable portion of the working class behind them. The brownshirts were mostly working class.They also tried to invoke a sense of community because that is what is missing from capitalist societies and it causes people pain and distress. Capitalism was a complete shit show in Germany in the 1920s and 30s and pretty much everybody on both the right and left bashed it to make political hay.I would read Evan's Third Reich Trilogy if you want to learn about it. Those are about the best history books you can read.The world hasn't changed a whole lot since then really and that is why those books are good reading. That is why Marx still resonates. That is why it is amusing to read Lenin and Stalin's thoughts on European politics and strategy because that is all still largely true today.