Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver joined Florida radio host Joyce Kaufman yesterday to discuss the Supreme Court arguments in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case, which Staver said dealt with whether a baker, Jack Phillips, would be “basically enslaved” to be a spokesperson for views he disagrees with by being required to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple.

Kaufman and Staver were encouraged by the Supreme Court’s decision, also yesterday, to let President Trump’s travel ban go into effect while legal challenges continue against it, but Staver said the uncertainty was too much and “the fact of the matter is we should never have to constantly wait with bated breath wondering, ‘Did we gain a constitutional right to day or did we lose one today?’”

Trump, Staver said, “has the right to do what he did in these orders, and Jack Phillips has the right to do what he did. You know, [Phillips] doesn’t bake Halloween cakes either. So, you know, it’s not like he’s just picking on one person or another, he’s an artist, he’s a person who doesn’t want his business and his life basically enslaved to be the mouthpiece for some issue or ceremony or message that violates his conscience and religious beliefs, and he should have the right to do so.”