READER COMMENTS ON

"Ohio Election Workers Sentenced to 18 Months for Rigging 2004 Presidential Recount"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Scott Trombetta said on 3/13/2007 @ 6:27 pm PT...





Hey Brad

I had already left 2 comments in the diary linking the crowd back to your past coverage of the Cuyahoga mess. As usual you've been way out in front of the rest.

Agree it should have been longer than 18 mos, but it's great to see some people are finally being held accountable. PrgrsvArchitect

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Tim Mayer said on 3/13/2007 @ 6:46 pm PT...





{Ed Note: Comment from Brent Turner deleted after multiple warnings about using multiple names and posting knowing disinformation.}

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... MsAnnaNOLA said on 3/13/2007 @ 8:08 pm PT...





Oh my thanks for your coverage and thanks for changing the color scheme. My eyes thank you for the latter. I can now refer people over here without apologizing for the colors! I will refer to you on all matters of voting!

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... MMIIXX said on 3/13/2007 @ 8:45 pm PT...





lets hope they squeal on the people who set them up to do this .

mick

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Savantster said on 3/13/2007 @ 9:14 pm PT...





Nice.. 10+ years for a joint on school property, 1.5 years for underminding the will of 10s of millions and making a farce of our Democracy. Yeah, let's keep putting poor people in prison for holding some of god's plants, but barely show concerne for those that actively try to destroy the country. Gettin' mad yet?

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... patginsd said on 3/13/2007 @ 9:26 pm PT...





Halleluia and hooray!!!! You made my day! I am THRILLED to see an inkling of justice come to pass. How long have we waited for this little sliver of justice and hope? Thank you Brad! NOW LET'S TRY HARDER! 2008 is just around the corner... Let's all do our best to continue to spread the word...

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... JUDGE OF JUDGES said on 3/13/2007 @ 10:11 pm PT...





18 stinking monthes what a fucking joke. 18 years would have been almost reasonable. Ya, how many more have died and been maimed thanks to these fucking republican scum.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 3/13/2007 @ 11:22 pm PT...





But, Savantster: Voter voting fraud isn't a dangerous, toxic narcotic! Oh, that's right, neither is a joint. Maybe if we call it, "gateway voting fraud", we can see some action around here!

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Ram said on 3/14/2007 @ 12:22 am PT...





Brad & Co.: Thanks for pushing and pushing. I love Bradblog!

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 3/14/2007 @ 1:39 am PT...





I'm with ya JOJ. Eighteen years would be *Almost* reasonable.

I would add in addition to 18 years...

a complete background check into these convicted (Dig Deep, many years back), removal of ALL SECURITY clearances, banished from serving in ANY GOVERNMENT, local, state, or federal, banished from working for EVM manufactures, banished from lobbying government. All this for LIFE. They also ought to loose their right to vote --- forever. People don't seem to realise the "butterfly effect" when applied to electronic voting, has led us down an unconstitutional path. It's not just some joke theory. It's deadly real. These electronic voting machines KILL PEOPLE! What we are left because of their crimes.

No right to vote (Can't count the damn thing)

A lot of death (Lies, Broken Oaths of Office, War)

A lot of debt (See war above)

A lot of corruption (Hey lets steal the election we only get less that two years, hey let's appoint cronies too! Hell, lets take over the whole government, that way nobody can hold us accountable ever again. We can do whatever we want, we are the new GOD.)

It would be redundant to say the destruction of the Constitution.. Interesting this wonderful news has come to us from ANOTHER COUNTRY!

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 3/14/2007 @ 2:12 am PT...





I notice an inconsistancy in what I said between a.) and b.) a.) They also ought to loose their right to vote --- forever.

b.) No right to vote (Can't count the damn thing) Technically they have lost their right to vote, since it can not be counted correctly. But I wanted to take this a step further and deny them the same (broken currently "right to vote") they took from us. And if it's ever to be fixed proper in the future, they should not be allowed to participate. Hope that made sense. It's hard to explain. Most of the stuff going on by the Bush administration is "hard to explain" it's purposly that way in my opinion. There's little mind games, word games, bill number games, and national security secrets games all to keep us in the darkness. I ain't sayin there ain't real national security secrets. I am just wondering how we are going to clean up this corrupt government that does not serve the will of the people. That protects itself by hiding under the veil of national security. I never did hear anything about that DHS thing in Ohio where people were denied access to oversee the vote counting because of some National Security Red Alert or some such nonsense in OHIO.

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... big dan said on 3/14/2007 @ 4:45 am PT...





So, who said women would be more compassionate, if in charge? You can lay several thousand deaths at the feet of these 2 women. 18 years is right!!!!!!!!! Get the REST of them now!!

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... big dan said on 3/14/2007 @ 5:40 am PT...





How is ANBCBSNNX's coverage, of the stolen 2004 election? Now that it's been proven in a court of law, that the recount was fixed???

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... big dan said on 3/14/2007 @ 5:42 am PT...





What do the wingnuts have to say about the Ohio conviction for the fixed 2004 recount?????????????

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 3/14/2007 @ 6:25 am PT...





While we are at it lets not forget that Rehnquist, Kennedy, Scalia, Thomas, and O'Connor in the US Supreme Court gave us this disaster in Bush v Gore. The overall count in Florida was in favor of Gore, but the Bush loving Supreme Court did what the court in the Dred Scott decision did. They forgot what america is about, and became fascist in their thinking. And as the Dred Scott decision led to the blood of thousands of americans pouring into the dirt, so the Gore v Bush decision has led to the same thing. The official history of Bush II is not going to be a good one. Bush can pay all the shills he wants (e.g. History of Bush, by Ann Coulter), but the real historians are speaking ... and it can only get worse. Thanks supreme court, thanks criminals in ohio, and thanks diebold, for forcing crime and corruption on an America that had budget and reputation surpluses at the time you did your dirty work. Now we have red ink, red states, red blood soaked soil, and a soiled reputation. Meanwhile cheney delutionists at faux news tell us everything is fine.

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Diane said on 3/14/2007 @ 7:18 am PT...





Brad, I have been on the phone this morning to Feinstein and Schumer’s offices telling them to contact you about voter fraud and use this opportunity to educate the public with the truth regarding election fraud in this country. I mentioned the Arkansas US Attorney’s involvement in “caging voters”. I was sick last night watching Pat Buchanan on Scarborough spouting the right wing election fraud myths with no one to challenge him on the facts. They always bring up the Loretta Sanchez race here in O C when she ran against that nut case ( can’t remember his name)…..not the most recent race of course. I also told Schumer to stop referring to Gonzales as a “nice” guy…Beware the banality of evil. Can you get on any of the talking head shows?

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... gtash said on 3/14/2007 @ 7:58 am PT...





Brad--

Diane at 16 is correct. If the Repubs think voter fraud is an issue, fine let's talk about it. You are strategically armed to provide lots of help (as is Rep Conyers). This is an issue that absolutely should be brought into the USA Scandel's spotlight.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... Savantster said on 3/14/2007 @ 8:29 am PT...





Guys (#16 and #17), let's not forget that the MSM is owned and controlled by the same kind of folks that put Shrubby in office in the first place.. We all know how important stories have been witheld and crap stories about runaway brides and dead fat ignorant strippers (who married rich) are all over 'page 1'.. Getting our Congress persons to "speak up about it" in an attempt to "educate the masses" won't go anywhere.. Nor will any elected official make too much of a stink about it knowing Murdock doesn't want to talk about it. See, the #3 source of revenue for Networks is -political advertising-... that's a LOT of money, and if politicos don't play nice, they don't get on TV. Raising a stink about something that would end the stranglehold the MSM has isn't going to happen on TV.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... DES said on 3/14/2007 @ 8:31 am PT...





Larry #8, one could also say that the actual, verified examples of election fraud and disenfranchisement (as opposed to that proven non-existent "epidemic" of voter fraud that they desperately peddle) would get far more outrage out of Republicans if it were caused by gay sex.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 3/14/2007 @ 8:32 am PT...





185

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This was the accepted total # of votes increased to Kerry after the Ohio recount. In a time of the Bush warmongers and final destructive assalt as the official US response to our world environmental crisis these fcks get 18 months.

i suppose this all makes sense in corporation USA right Mr. Kerry. Where is your official statement Senator Bonesmen? Thank you JUDGE! You and the guilty all wear someone else's blood on your hands,in your mouth, in your hair. Burry this corporate criminal mass media and Democrat Party just like you did the story at the time. Useless lyers! Ohio Free Press and Green Party Presidential candidate David Cobb were documenting the faux recount/rigging at the time with basically no help. There efforts should be looked at very closely since Blackwell and Ohio closed loopholes from election protection people even being able to have the few tools they used to fight in the 2004 federal election. 185 years is a fair sentence and a useful deterent.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... Alex Martin said on 3/14/2007 @ 8:46 am PT...





Thank you for all the news you have so diligently reported about the election farce of 2004.

Your conjecture about there being more to this story in that more people were involved in the vote fraud is probably correct. To link it to the Iraq war is too much of a stretch.

At the same time I agree that most likely things would be different with a Kerry administration, I’m not sure the Dems would have us out of Iraq by now. Considering all the obvious mishandlings and lies that have been done associated with this conflict, it is amazing to me how politically inept the Dems have been in trying to get even non-binding resolutions enacted against the war. The Dems are so afraid that looking peaceful is viewed as looking weak. I guess they forgot how strong the civil rights people had to be to take the abuse from the segregationalists. Personally I don’t think that the entire Dem party is interested in leaving Iraq (remember there are Military industrial complex jobs in every district). Peace isn’t a partisan issue because it doesn’t seem that either party is really interested in it.

The Right Fielder

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... ChrisHooten@work said on 3/14/2007 @ 9:01 am PT...





Are they ever going to count the damn votes by hand? And I mean THOSE Cayahoga ballots. After these convictions, surely they will go back and count all the votes... Or not?

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... big dan said on 3/14/2007 @ 9:05 am PT...





Was this story on ANBCBSNNX? The "corporate" mainstream media??? The #1 headline on ANBCBSNNX should be: "BUSH MAY NOT HAVE WON 2004 ELECTION" ...and a counter-headline should be: "WE'RE SORRY FOR REPORTING THAT THE OHIO RECOUNT WAS ACCURATE, DESPITE AVAILABLE FACTS STATING OTHERWISE"

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... texaslady said on 3/14/2007 @ 9:08 am PT...





I can't help but wonder how many states had crooked election officials. When so many people wanted Bush out and verbalized this, yet the state swung right. Makes you wonder. And Brad, maybe I am the only one, but I liked your green my eyes had no problem and they are old eyes.

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 3/14/2007 @ 9:32 am PT...





Diane & GTash - Would be happy to testify in Congress or on TV or anywhere else concerning the myth of "voter fraud", feel free to let anybody you like know that. ChrisHooten - Good question re: counting Cuyahoga. Let me see what I can learn. TexasLady - Just so you know, the same Green/Yellow color scheme is available. Just choose "BRAD BLOG Classic" from the color scheme options in the top right sidebar box!

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 3/14/2007 @ 10:06 am PT...





4 states were knowing stolen in the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 2004. NM, NV, OH, and FL (again). I AM ANGERED BY MANY ASPECTS OF THIS THEFT and New Mexico would have been the easiest to evidence but to concentrate on OHIO because this is the state Kerry conceded the next day and gave Bush the immediate unexamined victory. It was also the ONLY state debated by the 109th Congress who accepted the rigged electors from that state. Nothing shocking about the corporate criminal robots and Bush yes-men who made up the majority in that Congress but where is the OUTRAGE FROM AMERICANS??? How bout the fact that you can corrupt someone to help steal an election of the US Presidency no less and receive a jail sentence penalty of year and 1/2 in prison? Like a previous post said, there are people in US jails serving time for self-medicating themselves with an illegal drug. How fcked up is that BUSH AMERICA? THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN BRAD AND BRAD BLOGGER PATRIOTS FOR GETTING THE TRUTH OUT IN THIS COUNTRY BLATENTLY RUN BY GREEDY FASCIST IMPERIALISTS!

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... rayrayjones said on 3/14/2007 @ 1:18 pm PT...





dKos censors election fraud too? thank goodness i no longer visit that site otherwise i'd think Bush's victory in 04 was as legitimate as his 2000 election.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... Bevohio said on 3/14/2007 @ 2:48 pm PT...





I think each felon should be separately forced to hand count all the ballots as many times as it takes until they get the exact same numbers for each precinct.

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... big dan said on 3/14/2007 @ 6:11 pm PT...





Anyone notice, that now we have TWO GOP election thieves, Chuck Hagel and now John Sununu, speaking out against Bush? Chuck Hagel from ES&S vote thievery and John Sununu from the New England phone jammer area, who was one of the famous 7-or-so GOP Senate "upset/bottom of the 9th inning victory" winners in the 2002 elections? What's going on here? Ever look at these 2002 senate stats? Coleman of Minnesota won by 3%, a swing of 8-11% from the polls in favor of Coleman. Chambliss had a 9-12% poll shift in his favor, when Cleland was predicted to win. The grandaddy of them all: GOP Senate candidate Perdue had a 16 (sixteen) point swing in his favor from the polls to "the count", was supposed to lose to Barnes. The polls said Barnes had a 9% lead and he lost by 7%!!!!!!!!!! SIXTEEN POINT SWING!!!!!!!!!! Democratic congressman Rod Blagojevich has led Attorney General Jim Ryan handily in every poll except one...but lost by 7%. A 7% swing for the Republican. Comments:

- All the post polling swings in favour of the democratic party were within the margin of error.

- Several of the post polling swings in favour of the republican party were well outside the margin of error.

- In the states where the senate races were critical and close the swing was predominantly towards the Republicans, with the exceptions of Arkansas and Missouri. The level of post-poll swing in these races in favour of the Republican Party in each race were: North Carolina 3, Colorado 4, Georgia 9-12, Minnesota 8-11, Texas 3-11, New Hampshire 1.

- The state where the biggest upset occurred, Georgia, is also the state that ran its election with the most electronic voting machines. http://www.electiondefen...org/book/export/html/149 http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0211/S00078.htm http://www.electiondefen...org/book/export/html/149 My point? Now that it's proven the 2004 recount was rigged, just take another look at the 2002 midterm stats...

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... FascistUSA said on 3/14/2007 @ 6:44 pm PT...





America is a FASCIST COUNTRY ruled by the Power Elite (The Rich)and AIPAC/ ISRAEL. Our Mainstream "News" is PROPAGANDA. LIES. Our elections are RIGGED. Our Government is in ENDLESS WAR. WAKE THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... Sean said on 3/14/2007 @ 6:48 pm PT...





18 months!? As non-violent offenders they will do time in Camp CupCake, then one takes into account one day off for each day of good behavior while in the pokie. Factor in early release and volia! 6 months at the most, is all the these people will spend in jail. I say 30 years as "enemy combantants" in GITMO should be the sentence. As a lesson to them and a deterant to others.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... charles belenchia said on 3/14/2007 @ 6:52 pm PT...





In view of this OHIO decision,,what do you think would be appropriate for CATHERINE HARRIS and her little band of secrets,,think she may be a time B---,,,what do you think of CHIEF JUSTICE RENQUIST being juiced out of his mind when he entered into this equation with a bit too much of pain killers,,,wish we could have something to curb the pain of the BUSH ADMIN.,,Diebold should be investigated for their role in voter fraud,,do not you think,,,Seems as if some sculdugery went on in NEW MEXICO,,,OHIO and several other RED,,VERY red faced states. Happy now you doe doos for insisting on this band of incompetents to control our nation,,,,Even happier may be the ROUND THE BEND EVANGELICALS who really thought they were getting into bed with JESUS (politically speaking) All you ???bush???supporters are you a bit outraged about the two border agents being in prison for nothing except doing their jobs,,,makes you a bit angry or a bigger bit em-bare-assed---wise up or prepare for the RAPTURE ,,,,Is there a charge for this service or is it available by subscription??In the future all you lemmings who follow a party line,, it may be a chow line in prison.............................................................................BLUE FACED AND VERY HAPPY IN A VERY BLUE STATE OF MICHIGAN,,I remain in your service...............................Charles Belenchia

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 3/15/2007 @ 1:15 am PT...





DES: Didn't you mean? "would get far more fake outrage out of Republicans if it were caused by gay sex."

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... Mike said on 3/15/2007 @ 9:47 am PT...





How convenient. You left out the part where the prosecutor said it did not affect the outcome.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... Chris Hooten said on 3/17/2007 @ 5:43 pm PT...





Oh, well that's good enough for me. NOT! We don't know if it was part of a larger conspiracy or not. As the prosecutor has nothing to do with the running of elections, I don't care about their opinion on whether the election outcome was affected or not. When there are this many red flags, you have to go back and hand count all of the ballots, or you run the risk of NEVER knowing what the true outcome was. Either VERIFY the results, or NULLIFY them. I think we all know what will happen if we count all those votes... Trust is something that is earned, not something just to be handed out like candy.

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... neocrat said on 3/21/2007 @ 9:38 pm PT...





I'm confused... the AP article you link to seems to contradict your comment that there were "enough votes in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) alone to give the race to Kerry" --- it says:

Baxter did not claim the workers' actions affected the outcome of the election - Democratic Sen. John Kerry gained 17 votes and President Bush lost six in the county's recount. Also, CNN shows that Kerry did win Cuyahoga County. What am I missing? If these charges prove that the Ohio election was wrongly given to Bush, I'm not seeing it.

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]

... Scott Bushey said on 4/6/2007 @ 9:53 pm PT...

