Breitbart National Security Editor Dr. Sebastian Gorka, author of the best-selling book Defeating Jihad: The Winnable War, appeared on Fox News Saturday to discuss the “terror” supposedly felt by various world leaders for President-elect Donald Trump.

Dr. Gorka contended it was a good thing for various quarters of the world to be afraid of the United States again, after eight years of having their way with the Obama administration.

“Let me quote ‘Mad Dog’ Mattis, who made the First Marine Corps Division’s motto kind of his personal label: ‘We will be no better friend to our friends, and no worse enemy to our enemies,’” Gorka said.

“In the last eight years, the world has gone ablaze. Wherever you look, whether it’s Asia with China building these fake islands, whether it’s Russia invading its neighbors, whether it’s the rise of ISIS – the fact is, the world is ablaze thanks to a lack of American leadership. January 20th, new sheriff in town, Peter,” he told Fox News host Pete Hegseth.

Gorka said those complaining Trump doesn’t know what he’s doing are “the same liberal elite that still doesn’t understand what happened a month ago.”

“They have no idea. They’re cocooned in this little bubble, and they just generate these false narratives,” he said. “I can tell you, as somebody who lives in that national security world and talks to these people from other countries, there is such a relief, because our allies and our partners understand that after eight years of being dissed, eight years of their interests being undermined by the ‘lead from behind’ Obama mantra, now our friends will be helped. The enemies are the only people who will be afraid, and Peter, that’s a good thing.”

Hegseth noted Trump’s “America First” motto has also been derided as “abandoning the world.”

“Who else should be first?” Gorka asked in response. “Should it be North Korea? Should it be Iran? What’s on your passport, Peter? Is it an American eagle, or is it the flag of the Republic of Iran? Are you an American? Do we have Interests? Should we protect them?”

When Hegseth answered in the affirmative to all of those questions, Gorka said, “That’s Mr. Trump.”

“In every war, you have to exploit uncertainty,” he explained. “We don’t telegraph what we do in advance. Bill Clinton did this in the Balkans – do you remember where he said, ‘No boots on the ground?’ What did Milosevich do? Exploited that mercilessly. This administration did exactly the same thing. We’re not gonna do X, we’re not gonna do Y. Well, then your enemy just reassesses what they have to do and exploits that telegraphing. So we’re not going to do that.”

“The fact is, we have an individual who said repeatedly, ‘Let’s cool our jets a little bit,’” he noted. “Mr. Trump has said, and General Flynn, we’re not going to make enemies needlessly. No new enemies. That’s not logical. But where our interests are being damaged, we’re going to step up to the plate.”

Asked what he thought the biggest surprise from Trump’s presidency would be, Gorka replied: “Just how diplomatic he will be, with the people he needs to be diplomatic with.”

You can watch the full interview below: