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Next » There was an error. Delete post THIS IS A SPINNER or cancel THIS IS A SPINNER metadata This post has been removed by an administrator or moderator metadata Did you write it by yourself or should I ask for a bibliography? metadata eon is actually a good writer judging from the past. tldr latinas are the best or? metadata White guys are the worst too. please write one up for that so I can copypasta. metadata I think each race has its own good/bad, no race is perfect, the only differences are people’s favorites/opinions. metadata We’re going to skip over the obvious human rights violations strewn about your recommendation. I’m sure someone else can articulate an argument about why targeting a historically disadvantaged group for systemic discrimination is a bad plan. I’m going to talk about science. mtDNA and Y-chromosome are lineage markers only for direct-female-to-female or direct-male-to-male ancestors, respectively. For example, you can have a female who is phenotypically of european-descent (14/16) but turn up genetically as asian-descent and african-descent based on your tests if the maternal-maternal-[great]-grandmother (1/16) was of asian-descent and the paternal-paternal-[great]-grandfather (1/16) was african-descent. Given that neither mtDNA nor the Y-chromosome encodes any genes that contribute to the social construction of identity, I’d say you’re going after the wrong markers. Speaking of which, phenotypic expression has a much larger role in the construction of identity than underlying genetics. The social construction of race is more based on folk beliefs than science. If you want an objective measure, just come up with a set of physical metrics that coincide with what people use to gauge ethnicity. Oh wait, that’s subjective. Hmmm… metadata This is so messed up… metadata > *Originally posted by **[Pats133](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8818714):*** > > This is so messed up… no its not white boy its a great idea metadata First of all, exactly where does the concept of reversing cultural beauty standards originally engineered by white supremacy qualify under “obvious human rights violations?” > *Originally posted by **[retsamerol](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8816869):*** > > I’m sure someone else can articulate an argument about why targeting a historically disadvantaged group for systemic discrimination is a bad plan. Oh poor white women. White women are paid more an average than black or Hispanic _men_1, and of course white standards of beauty are so ingrained in society that they even spill over in minority communities, in the form of women with lighter skin tones being viewed as more attractive in those communities. Really, when was the last time you saw a perfume line or high end clothing advertised by a minority model? But I suppose _someone_ has to cry for white women. > *Originally posted by **[retsamerol](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8816869):*** > > I bet I can discount the entire plan by focusing on one part of it’s implementation, that being that Lord Eon’s intended classification system has an obvious flaw _if you just stare at it long enough…_ You may have noticed (or not) that the second to last paragraph of the OP focused on potential mixed race individuals (Yes, everyone is mixed race 100+ generations ago, but even your 1/16 example wouldn’t hold for relatively static populations, such as those in Europe), and, lo and behold, I explicitly stated falling back on accepted phenotypic features which characterize the popular definition of “white” women. > *Originally posted by **[OgreSean](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8818724):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Pats133](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8818714):*** > > > > This is so messed up… > > no its not white boy > > its a great idea Jose is right. This may be the best idea I’ve ever had. 1 [http://www.aauw.org/2014/04/03/race-and-the-gender-wage-gap/](http://www.aauw.org/2014/04/03/race-and-the-gender-wage-gap/) metadata And then I’ll swoop in and make a harem of white women. metadata Even without looking, I knew this was going to be a post from Eonian. metadata > *Originally posted by **[BigL46](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8821190):*** > > Even without looking, I knew this was going to be a post from Eonian. ^this metadata > *Originally posted by **[Pats133](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8821273):*** > > *Originally posted by **[BigL46](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8821190):*** > > > > Even without looking, I knew this was going to be a post from Eonian. > > ^this shut up you racist metadata This post has been removed by an administrator or moderator metadata This post has been removed by an administrator or moderator metadata If you were truly progressive, you would be targeting white males for systemic disadvantageous discrimination. Noting the existence of a more regressive position does not exempt your own position from being regressive. Something about Kettleblacks and Hippogriffs. Can’t trust trice-damned sell-swords or free companies. metadata > *Originally posted by **[retsamerol](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8822059):*** > > If you were truly progressive, you would be targeting white males for systemic disadvantageous discrimination. > > Noting the existence of a more regressive position does not exempt your own position from being regressive. Something about Kettleblacks and Hippogriffs. Can’t trust trice-damned sell-swords or free companies. I would pose the question about the ethics of disadvantageous discrimination. metadata [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/us/affirmative-action-decision.html?pagewanted=all](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/us/affirmative-action-decision.html?pagewanted=all) metadata > *Originally posted by **[retsamerol](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8822059):*** > > If you were truly progressive, you would be targeting white males for systemic disadvantageous discrimination. > > Noting the existence of a more regressive position does not exempt your own position from being regressive. Something about Kettleblacks and Hippogriffs. Can’t trust trice-damned sell-swords or free companies. In case you didn’t read the OP, the point is to correct the most “regressive position,” you’re trying to hand wave that fact by implying I just brought it up as a poor redherring attempt. > *Originally posted by **[retsamerol](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8822152):*** > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/us/affirmative-action-decision.html?pagewanted=all](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/us/affirmative-action-decision.html?pagewanted=all) And here, you’re just making an appeal to authority by trying to imply my plan’s foundational workings are ineffective because the SCOTUS is questioning whether a vaguely conceptually similar strategy is still effective in U.S. college applications. False comparison. > *Originally posted by **[Pats133](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8822081):*** > > *Originally posted by **[retsamerol](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8822059):*** > > > > If you were truly progressive, you would be targeting white males for systemic disadvantageous discrimination. > > > > > > > > Noting the existence of a more regressive position does not exempt your own position from being regressive. Something about Kettleblacks and Hippogriffs. Can’t trust trice-damned sell-swords or free companies. > > I would pose the question about the ethics of disadvantageous discrimination. You seem to like complaining about the archetype of the proposed solution, but I didn’t see you even acknowledge the problem before you decided to take offense to the proposal. metadata so this is what the forum has been up to lately metadata Why is it that you always bitch about the white people and never the Black,Brown,Yellow and Reds? And if the equation is reversed and black chicks are sexually superior, why do black guys always pick white girls and white girls never pick white guys? The racism and stereotyping is strong in this thread. metadata > *Originally posted by **[Shieru](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8824666):*** > > Why is it that you always bitch about the white people and never the Black,Brown,Yellow and Reds? > > And if the equation is reversed and black chicks are sexually superior, why do black guys always pick white girls and white girls never pick white guys? > > The racism and stereotyping is strong in this thread. ![](http://www.troll.me/images/snape-dafuq/god-dayum-.jpg) Shieru coming out of nowhere with some real questions…… especially with the 2nd one O\_O metadata > *Originally posted by **[Shieru](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8824666):*** > > Why is it that you always bitch about the white people and never the Black,Brown,Yellow and Reds? You’re trying to ask why I’m focusing on one problem instead of another? ISIS is committing human rights abuses right now, why are you here instead of complaining about them? > *Originally posted by **[Shieru](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8824666):*** > > And if the equation is reversed and black chicks are sexually superior, why do black guys always pick white girls and white girls never pick white guys? Let’s try to read the **very first** paragraph of the OP carefully. I know reading can be hard for some so we’ll go slowly. > *Originally posted by **[Eonian](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8816507):*** > > As everyone knows, due to the lasting effects of colonization and the white supremacy that was engineered to assist administrative efforts in colonies and maintain public support in Europe, the world’s beauty standards have been unfairly skewed in favor of white women. This bias has resulted in atrocious popular belief that white women are superior in terms of sexual value to other races, despite the fact that this equation is obviously reversed. In plebeian speak, this means that one legacy of racism is that white women are seen as more attractive. If white women are seen as a standard of beauty, it would follow that men of all races would go after them, no? You could have avoided this entire comment with basic logic and bothering to read the first paragraph of the OP. **Billy Mays Voice:** But wait! There’s more! > *Originally posted by **[Shieru](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8824666):*** > > …black guys **always** pick white girls and white girls **never** pick white guys > > The **racism and stereotyping** is strong in this thread. Back to back sentences too. I swear you can’t make this shit up. > *Originally posted by **[BigL46](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8824769):*** > > Shieru’s laughable excuse for a post agrees with my assumptions, so I better support it without bothering to make any points of my own. I better put a picture in to, so everyone knows I’m serious! Better luck next time. metadata Maybe you should take your head out of your ass before posting Eonian instead of just being a racist and at the very least keep your negative brooding to yourself. If all you ever do is bitch about white people why do you even bother posting in the first place? Beauty standards don’t exist, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and only skin deep. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a simple fool who has to take the opinions of others as gospel. metadata Today an Animal Planet, we observe the workings of a simple mind. > *Originally posted by **[Shieru](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8825764):*** > > Maybe you should take your head out of your ass before posting Eonian instead of just being a racist and at the very least keep your negative brooding to yourself. Faced with the destruction of his earlier outcry, the specimen has no choice but ad hominem attacks. > *Originally posted by **[Shieru](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8825764):*** > > If all you ever do is bitch about white people why do you even bother posting in the first place? The specimen apparently failed to fully comprehend the post he is angry about, though he understood enough to know he was defeated. > *Originally posted by **[Shieru](/forums/2437/topics/461089?page=1#posts-8825764):*** > > Beauty standards don’t exist, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and only skin deep. > Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a simple fool who has to take the opinions of others as gospel. His leverage of fallacy now stretched thin, the creature stumbles, making a claim which can be directly discounted via evidence1 from2 reputable3 scientific4 journals5! 1 [Journal of Applied Social Psychology](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1559-1816.1995.tb02632.x/abstract;jsessionid=61F5E56AC91D8483FA4215AB1D602A38.f02t04) 2 [Evolution and Human Behavior](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090513803000837) 3 [Nature](http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v396/n6709/abs/396321a0.html) 4 [The American Psychological Association](http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/cou/52/3/420/) 5 [Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology](http://guilfordjournals.com/doi/abs/10.1521/jscp.1990.9.2.230) « Prev

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