From his home in Nevada, former Senate leader Harry Reid (D-NV) described President Donald Trump and the “chaos” his administration has brought in a New York Times magazine profile published Wednesday.

“Trump is an interesting person. He is not immoral but is amoral. Amoral is when you shoot someone in the head, it doesn’t make a difference. No conscience,” he said. “I think he is without question the worst president we’ve ever had. We’ve had some bad ones, and there’s not even a close second to him.”

“He’ll lie. He’ll cheat,” he continued. “You can’t reason with him.”

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