The end of work is in sight. The connection between work performed and character created, or work preformed and income received is absolutely unintelligible - so let's get on with a society in which there doesn't have to be a relationship between work and income. Let's get on with what we used to call 'Socialism.'

Historian James Livingston examines the deep problem with employment in the 21st century - the broken relationship between work and income, and explains why we must look beyond capitalism's intellectual decrepitude, and to the rising rate of transfer payments, if we are to reclaim our labor, our happiness and our time from the demands of capitalism.

James is the author of the new book No More Work: Why Full Employment Is a Bad Idea from UNC Press and the Aeon essay Fuck Work.

Interview transcript via Antidote Zine