If you’ve ever sat at a congested Tucson intersection and thought “at least our traffic isn’t as bad as Phoenix,” you might want to think again.

TomTom, a Dutch-based company that manufactures mapping and navigation products, last week released its annual traffic index, which analyzes traffic congestion in 53 metropolitan areas in the United States and 186 cities worldwide.

Out of 53 cities, the index determined that Tucson is the 15th-most congested city in the country.

That’s right, 15th.

According to the study, Tucson has more traffic congestion than places such as Philadelphia, Dallas, San Diego and, of all places, Phoenix, which was 45th.

However, we still don’t compare to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Honolulu, Seattle and San Jose, the top five most congested cities on the list.

But you’re still probably wondering how a place with two interstates and no other real freeways has more congestion than some cities with several freeways and at least twice as many people.