haha yes i know trust me, they dont count at all when you are learning composition/value/colour, but they help develop style- for example your work would be very different if you only used the round brush, or if Van Gogh used his nose instead of a brush... kinda... I like the effect those brushes make, though i cant make them cs2 compatable :/ still, thanks will try to make these work! keep up the good work, you are one of my favourite artists atm for sure