Thom Yorke has sat down for an interview with Zane Lowe on Apple Music’s Beats 1. He discussed his new solo album ANIMA, politics, and more. Watch the full interview below and listen on Beats 1.

At one point, Zane Lowe asks Thom Yorke, “At what point did this album start to take shape?” Yorke replies, “We’ve had most of this stuff for ages, and the joke was, it was really quick to do. We set up as we do the live shows for most of it... and knocked it out. It was really fun. It was quick and easy, and we knew where we were going because we lived with it for so long.”

Yorke also explained the record’s title:

I think the reason it ended up being called ANIMA was partly because I’m obsessed with this whole dream thing, and it comes from this concept that [Carl] Jung had. But, also, we have started to emulate what our devices say about us and emulate the way we behave from that. So, I had this whole thing where, like, the reason we can watch Boris Johnson lie through his teeth, promise something that we know will never happen is: We don’t have to connect with it directly because it’s a little avatar. It’s this little guy with a stupid haircut waving a flag.... “That’s all right, that's funny.” And the consequences are not real. The consequences of everything we do are not real. We can remain anonymous. We send our avatar out to hurl abuse and poison, and then trot back anonymous.

Yorke continued to discuss politics: