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The only thing I can think of is that he only let Revan and Scourge think he was going to destroy everything for immortality, when really all he wanted was to destabilize the core galactic powers. And really, that means the Republic and its Jedi Order, since he was presumably working hard on the Eternal Empire even during the events of the Returned trailer when the Sith Empire returned to Korriban. Is this implied in the Revan novel? Are we to conclude that the rituals of the JK story, the Yavin 4 machine, and Ziost, were merely meant to increase his power as Valkorion , and weaken his only serious opposition, but he never needed them to be immortal. Or maybe he's like a vampire ... he wants to rule and has the resources to do it with the Fleet, but needs to refill his immortality tank every once in a while by destroying all life on a planet or two? Scourge just had the project scope wrong?



In the revan novel ( It takes place between kotor 1 and 2 then a bit after kotor 2) is more about revan and him getting his memories back after getting mask back then getting canderous and going to fight the emperor again. He gets captured by scourge and Nyriss and held for a long time until the exile free's him then they attempt to strike down vitiate with scourges help. Though I don't believe it was the emperor. Vitiate could possesess several bodies at once. We've seen this in the sith warrior story as well as on ziost. I believe the person are defeated by in the jedi knight story and in turn whom you strike down was another emperor's voice. I believe Vitiate was already planning to take over zakuul as vitiate. The dark council as well as Marr had said he's been absent for centuries. And with his Voice and Wrath as well as his children (of the emperor) he would never have to physicaally be there to ensure things were going to plan.



I have other loose ends too. For example, in Chapter 2 of KOTET, Vitiate tells you he found Valkorion centuries prior and he was a great warrior for the planet. But we also know from KOTET Chapter 4-5, and the Iokath daily story line, that the builders of Iokath tested the Eternal Fleet and the superweapon droids on ancient Zaakul, giving rise to the mythology (in which Valkorion is well versed). And Koth says the stories about the Gravestone (also part of the Iokathian weapon program) were that it was the only thing that stood up against the Fleet, and Vitiate acknowledges that the Gravestone isn't what he expected in KOTFE chapter 5, implying this is the first he's set eyes upon it. It would stand to reason that the Builders of Iokath used the Gravestone to tame their fleet after their weapons test on Zaakul, but it doesn't explain how Vitiate/Valkorion gained control of the Fleet. I guess when Vitiate found the ancient warrior known as Valkorion it was probably right after the test. He must have been intrigued by the prospect of an unstoppable fully automated fleet and reworked the Knights and the Scions to help him forge his Empire. I presume he must have gained control after the builders were killed by the superweapon or ARIES and its minions and his Knights and Scions were stronger. But its all educated guessing on my part so there's a lot of details we're missing there.



110% agree Plot holes are leaving us to wonder.



But that still doesn't compare to the apparent personality change from Vitiate to Valkorion. The time frames just don't jive. Knowing now The only thing I can think of is that he only let Revan and Scourge think he was going to destroy everything for immortality, when really all he wanted was to destabilize the core galactic powers. And really, that means the Republic and its Jedi Order, since he was presumably working hard on the Eternal Empire even during the events of the Returned trailer when the Sith Empire returned to Korriban. Is this implied in the Revan novel? Are we to conclude that the rituals of the JK story, the Yavin 4 machine, and Ziost, were merely meant to increase his power, and weaken his only serious opposition, but he never needed them to be immortal. Or maybe he's like a vampire ... he wants to rule and has the resources to do it with the Fleet, but needs to refill his immortality tank every once in a while by destroying all life on a planet or two? Scourge just had the project scope wrong?In the revan novel ( It takes place between kotor 1 and 2 then a bit after kotor 2) is more about revan and him getting his memories back after getting mask back then getting canderous and going to fight the emperor again. He gets captured by scourge and Nyriss and held for a long time until the exile free's him then they attempt to strike down vitiate with scourges help. Though I don't believe it was the emperor. Vitiate could possesess several bodies at once. We've seen this in the sith warrior story as well as on ziost. I believe the person are defeated by in the jedi knight story and in turn whom you strike down was another emperor's voice. I believe Vitiate was already planning to take over zakuul as vitiate. The dark council as well as Marr had said he's been absent for centuries. And with his Voice and Wrath as well as his children (of the emperor) he would never have to physicaally be there to ensure things were going to plan.I have other loose ends too. For example, in Chapter 2 of KOTET, Vitiate tells you he found Valkorion centuries prior and he was a great warrior for the planet. But we also know from KOTET Chapter 4-5, and the Iokath daily story line, that the builders of Iokath tested the Eternal Fleet and the superweapon droids on ancient Zaakul, giving rise to the mythology (in which Valkorion is well versed). And Koth says the stories about the Gravestone (also part of the Iokathian weapon program) were that it was the only thing that stood up against the Fleet, and Vitiate acknowledges that the Gravestone isn't what he expected in KOTFE chapter 5, implying this is the first he's set eyes upon it. It would stand to reason that the Builders of Iokath used the Gravestone to tame their fleet after their weapons test on Zaakul, but it doesn't explain how Vitiate/Valkorion gained control of the Fleet. I guess when Vitiate found the ancient warrior known as Valkorion it was probably right after the test. He must have been intrigued by the prospect of an unstoppable fully automated fleet and reworked the Knights and the Scions to help him forge his Empire. I presume he must have gained control after the builders were killed by the superweapon or ARIES and its minions and his Knights and Scions were stronger. But its all educated guessing on my part so there's a lot of details we're missing there.110% agree Plot holes are leaving us to wonder.But that still doesn't compare to the apparent personality change from Vitiate to Valkorion. The time frames just don't jive. Knowing now what Charles Boyd said about how the trilogy of the Eternal Empire was condensed, I can't help but feel that we got robbed of some of these plot holes.





I agree with other that one storyline for 8 classes wasn't the best way to go. I think for the Sith Warrior you should have been able to choose to defend valkorion and have defeated arcann only to have arcan escape with 1/3 of the fleet and 1/3 or the knights and as The hand of Valkorian you should be tasked with hunting arcann down and bringing him to justice. For the Inquisitor and jedi knight the regular story would have been fine with the knight with the ending being the knight creates an alliance the inquisitor now dark council elite turns zakuul into a second sith empire. The Imperial Agent should have been tasked (depending on your ending) with discovering this rumored new power in wild space to assess how much of a threat it would be to the empire (this story would take place before arcann and thexan's attacks) Your agent would go undercover as a part of zakuul's elite to learn more... The smuggler would be trying to steal resources from a resource rich planet not knowing it belongs to zakuul. You run into skytroopers and you start being hunted down by one of the captains of the knights of zakuul. Jedi sage story have been meditating and have seen a vision of what is to come and have been sent by the council to find this new threat and maybe you come back and try to stop thexan and arcan only you end up escaping with your crew due to overwhelming odds......idk Maybe im grasping at straws but we need to go back to having separate class stories for each characters. I think we should get snippets of info back in little codices when we click an item or datacrons.I agree with other that one storyline for 8 classes wasn't the best way to go. I think for the Sith Warrior you should have been able to choose to defend valkorion and have defeated arcann only to have arcan escape with 1/3 of the fleet and 1/3 or the knights and as The hand of Valkorian you should be tasked with hunting arcann down and bringing him to justice. For the Inquisitor and jedi knight the regular story would have been fine with the knight with the ending being the knight creates an alliance the inquisitor now dark council elite turns zakuul into a second sith empire. The Imperial Agent should have been tasked (depending on your ending) with discovering this rumored new power in wild space to assess how much of a threat it would be to the empire (this story would take place before arcann and thexan's attacks) Your agent would go undercover as a part of zakuul's elite to learn more... The smuggler would be trying to steal resources from a resource rich planet not knowing it belongs to zakuul. You run into skytroopers and you start being hunted down by one of the captains of the knights of zakuul. Jedi sage story have been meditating and have seen a vision of what is to come and have been sent by the council to find this new threat and maybe you come back and try to stop thexan and arcan only you end up escaping with your crew due to overwhelming odds......idk Maybe im grasping at straws but we need to go back to having separate class stories for each characters.