“—and don’t tell me it doesn’t work. Torture works. O.K., folks? Torture— You know I have these guys. ‘Torture doesn’t work.’ Believe me, it works. O.K.?” “Senator, I, I— I don’t believe that torture works. I support the higher moral standard that this country has decided to hold itself to. I would never, ever take C.I.A. back to an interrogation program.” “They asked me, ‘What do you think about waterboarding, Mr. Trump?’ I said, ‘I love it. I love it. I think it’s great.’ And I said, ‘The only thing is, we should make it much tougher than waterboarding.’ And if you don’t think it works, folks, you’re wrong.” “If the C.I.A. has a high-value terrorism suspect in its custody and the president gave you a direct order to waterboard that suspect, what would you do?” “Senator, I would advise I do not believe the president would ask me to do that.” “We have an enemy in the Middle East that’s chopping off heads and drowning people in massive steel cages. O.K.? We have an enemy that doesn’t play by the laws. I would like to strengthen the laws so that we can better compete.” “First of all, C.I.A. follows the law. We follow the law then. We follow the law today. I support the law. I wouldn’t support a change in the law, but I’ll tell you this: I would not put C.I.A. officers at risk by asking them to undertake risky controversial activity again.”