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"Exclusive: Cover Story on Edmonds 'Outs' Video-taped, 'Blackmailed' Dem Congresswoman; Alleges State Dept. Mole at NYTimes; MUCH MORE..."

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Cosimo diRondo said on 9/21/2009 @ 10:56 am PT...





I haven't bought a hard-copy magazine in years, and never a political one, much less a conservative one. But right after work today (or perhaps sooner), I'm marching over to Barnes and Noble to buy a copy (or maybe a few) of American Conservative. I hope they carry it. And that the delivery hasn't been interdicted by scary looking men in black suits.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Dan-in-PA said on 9/21/2009 @ 10:57 am PT...





Wow

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... joe blow said on 9/21/2009 @ 10:58 am PT...





1. Is there any actual evidence on Rahm Emanuel? 2. Has Grossman ever made any statement?

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Tunga said on 9/21/2009 @ 11:19 am PT...





Perhaps this is why tomorrows weather forecast for Chicago includes 500 mph winds and tritium showers? Just sayin.

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Kayttt2000 said on 9/21/2009 @ 12:59 pm PT...





Wow,,what a hero.. No surprise the MSM wouldn't cover her story.

They wouldn't help me when I was trying to expose,"Bush was spying on everybody under National Security for Political Reasons" in Jan/Feb,2005...

The New York Times finally broke the story in Oct/Nov.2005.. Then they wouldn't help me to expose the Rothschild/CIA Mk Ultra Program...

I'm under Protective Custody now and all the information should be in the hands of the law.. Sibel's story is a bomb,,my story is an atrocity, both against the United States of American and it's citizens...

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... Styve said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:08 pm PT...





Told you so!!

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... PissedOffAmerican said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:12 pm PT...





Brad.... Did Steve Clemons ever contact you, as he said he might? It seems I've become personna non gratis with Steve since I pressed this issue on his blog. But I'm still posting there at TWN, and I do not intend to let up on the issue. He expressed a "like" for you, no matter whatever transpired between him and Sibel, so I was hoping that you could convince him that this story deserves exposure on a grand scale. I think, possibly, his friendship with Grossman may be the main factor fueling his reticence to get involved in a journalistic or blogging sense, and whatever transpired between he and Sibel is just a smokescreen.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Edward Rynearson said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:14 pm PT...





August 19, 2009 – Peter B Collins Radio Podcast Philip Giraldi, former CIA and DIA officer, on US/Israel relations, AIPAC, wiretapping and Rep. Jane Harman. This is the third installment of Boiling Frogs interviews co-hosted with Sibel Edmonds, and is quite explosive. Radio Du Jour (voices from the truthland)

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Styve said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:19 pm PT...





...or I should say, I posted that Wayne Madsen had this information on August 9, 2009. COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Styve said on 8/10/2009 @ 5:24 pm PT... Brad...

What do you think of the following paragraph from WMR, about the Schakowsky situation, and what it could mean for the compromise of US Intelligence, particularly with regard to Iranian nuclear program and Israel's insistence that it be destroyed? Currently, Schakowsky is chair of the House Select Committee on Intelligence’s Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations --- which puts her in a conflict-of-interest in investigating Turkish and related Israeli intelligence penetration of the FBI and State Department, as stated under oath by Edmonds, and the paying of bribes by Turkish government interests to current and former members of Congress. -------------

Brad Friedman said on 8/11/2009 @ 1:18 am PT... Styve @ 12 asked:

What do you think of the following paragraph from WMR, about the Schakowsky situation I think it's damned irresponsible to go on record with that based on an anonymous source. Particularly when there is no evidence, that I'm aware of, that the Congresswoman in question (whether Schakowsky or anybody else) necessarily knew she was even being set up for blackmail. She may not have even known it do this day, unless WMR has evidence to the contrary. If so, he should present it. If you're gonna name names on something as damning as that, and state is as fact, it seems you should offer some actual evidence as to wrong-doing by the person you're naming. Otherwise, you're just "outing", as far as I can tell. And offering no evidence to back up your outing in the bargain.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... sibeledmonds said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:23 pm PT...





AntiWar Radio will interview Phil Giraldi, David Rose (Vanity Fair) and Joe Lauria (Sunday Time) tomorrow:

http://www.antiwar.com/b.../sibel-edmondss-big-day/

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Kayttt2000 said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:23 pm PT...





Ding,ding,,the bells are ringing,,

OMG,,

The Rothschild/CIA via Mk Ultra used me for storage and a 24/7 telephone line starting in April 2001 until Nov.2004 when the law tapped them on the shoulder... Anyhow they stored TOKOYO ROSE... This is HUGE,there are some MSM's that are sending messages via there media,,orders,delivering messages,everything,,

They have worked out a system and have been doing this for several years.. Not only were the Rothschild/Rockefeller,CIA and Hughes Ind,,using me to communicate,,,they also had there operation Tokoyo ROSE on High after Bush stepped into power,,, CNN I think worked with the Mossad in Houston to send messages-orders...

There was one REALLY BAD message,,

Around Sept/October 2008,,,An assassination order.

I know who and why,,

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Nunyabiz said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:41 pm PT...





I have emailed this to Rachel Maddow in hopes that she might cover it.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... PissedOffAmerican said on 9/21/2009 @ 1:57 pm PT...





"I have emailed this to Rachel Maddow in hopes that she might cover it" You GOTTA be kidding. Maddow, although on the other side of the fence from the likes of Hannity or Beck, is no less biased or management controlled. Have you EVER seen her comment on the Isr/Pal dynamic, the settlements, or Netanyahu's arrogance in the face of Obama's stance on the settlements? Just like Fox, MSNBC has an agenda too, and exposing Sibel Edmonds' allegations are obviously no part of it.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... betterthannosn said on 9/21/2009 @ 2:08 pm PT...





Sibel, I've long held the opinion you are a National Hero. I have followed your story for years and knowing what is at stake and who these players are, you are very courageous, thank you, Joe

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/21/2009 @ 2:37 pm PT...





POA @ 7 asked: Did Steve Clemons ever contact you, as he said he might? I don't believe he did. Would be happy to hear from him, work with him, etc. I think, possibly, his friendship with Grossman may be the main factor fueling his reticence to get involved in a journalistic or blogging sense, and whatever transpired between he and Sibel is just a smokescreen. Um, yeah, if he's really friends with Grossman, then yeah, I suspect that's a problem. Do you know that for a fact? That said, if he actually is friends with him, he'd do us all a favor by posting Grossman's "side" of the story. Would love to hear it! Mr. Grossman is NOT gonna like what's about to come out in the AmCon piece, I can tell ya that. He seems to be the top, corrupt, treasonous dog here, if Sibel's allegations have any merit in the slightest. But, by all means, let Steve know we'd love to hear from Grossman!

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Steve said on 9/21/2009 @ 3:18 pm PT...





Sibel, you are a True American Hero. We are in desperate need of whistle blowers in order to expose the lies in the run-up to 911 and the lies about the events of that day. The level of corruption in our government and the media is unbelievable. A Coup d’état took place in this country many years ago and the symptoms are beginning to surface.

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... PissedOffAmerican said on 9/21/2009 @ 3:49 pm PT...





Brad...... I believe, if memory serves me, that steve mentioned a friendship or close contact with Grossman in a personal email he sent to me. I will look for it, but if thats the case, I certainly would not be comfortable sharing such a correspondence. If he meant it for public perusal, he would have simply posted it on his blog. It is also possible he mentioned it on his blog, prior to the thread I am linking to, (in response to my constant needling on unrelated threads). I will examine those, as well to see if I can find the comment about thier "relationship", if any. Here is the initial thread that Steve put up as a result of me, and others, needling him in January of '08, and it does shed some small light on Steve's position. Its also interesting that Giraldi commented on the thread, as did "Lukery".... http://www.thewashington...s/2008/01/sibel_edmonds/ By the way, I see no reason that it is constructive for me to "middle man" any correspondence or contact you and Steve might initiate. My suggestion would be for you to directly contact Steve, and express your curiousity about Steve's read on the issue, especially as it pertains to Marc Grossman. His Email is listed at TWN... http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/ Feel free to email me if you still think you need my assistance to initiate contact.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... molly said on 9/21/2009 @ 4:02 pm PT...





What is the reason for the Brad Friedman/Wayne Madsen animosity? Either tell the details or stop slamming one another.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/21/2009 @ 4:34 pm PT...





I don't have any particular animosity for Madsen, Molly. I just find him to be an *incredibly* irresponsible writer. (Yeah, he also seems to have a serious anti-semetic thread, but that's a separate issue). He has gotten huge elements, in important story after important story completely wrong, and failed to bother to correct it even when called on it. He has brought a great deal of damage to important stories that folks won't touch if they see that Madsen has touched them (often extraordinarily incorrectly and irresponsibily). I'd refer you back to his initial inaccurate coverage of Clint Curtis. His wholly inaccurate claim that he had in his hand a check for $12 million written by Saudi Arabia to throw the 2004 election for Bush, and so much more. As I said, I have no particular animosity for him, and hope that he is well and healthy. But it would be helpful for all of us if he considered a different profession where he can't cause quite as much damage to serious issues that need real investigation versus "my unnamed super-secret sources say". Hope that clarifies.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Sally said on 9/21/2009 @ 4:35 pm PT...





I just don't know. This sounds explosive. I'd say the media might actually make a big deal of it to throw the scent off the next big move. I hope this is for real but lets just see what the MSM do with it. If they ignore it its probably for real. If they cover it and it jams up the blogsphere then you gotta wonder what other more important event they don't want you to notice. Keep your eyes and ears open wider than ever for something/else big the elites might be planning. It is likely just what it seems.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... Sally said on 9/21/2009 @ 5:00 pm PT...





OT - Keep your eyes glued to the next G20 meeting I'd say with an eye on the small print. At the last one they quietly in the small print approved the issueing of Special Drawing Rights (SDR) by the "Bank of International Settlements" a currency that has been dormant for 50 years. You can read about it here.



The Tower of Basel: Secretive Plans for the Issuing of a Global Currency

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/21/2009 @ 5:27 pm PT...





What certain individuals were doing in the four months lead up to 9/11, including US troop movements, proves that 9/11 was in fact an inside job. Everyone in DC knows it was. Shutting down Able Danger is evidence of planning. So was the murder of Chandra Levy. Anyone and anything standing in the way of the 9/11 coup plot was removed. It's time for more whistleblowers to step forward.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... Aidan said on 9/21/2009 @ 5:31 pm PT...





I don't think any of this is true. It really sounds like something someone made up. 10 minutes basic research on the internet and I've found a several flaws in this woman's story.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... Jon Gold said on 9/21/2009 @ 5:33 pm PT...





Brad... can I call you Brad? Thanks Brad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojig6MeN0go 9/11 Truth will set us free.

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... ShaJ said on 9/21/2009 @ 6:12 pm PT...





{Ed Note: Obnoxious, anti-Turkish racist post deleted. - BF}

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... Cole Nidreison said on 9/21/2009 @ 6:34 pm PT...





Madsen antisemitic? That would be a nice trick, since the Ashkenazis that founded "Israel" and commit treasonous acts like we're talking about here (Grossman, Perle, Wolfy) aren't Semites. But hey, war by way of deception, so why not? You chastise others for irresponsible statements. Well that's a big one of your own. What has Madsen said or written that shows he hates Jews, which is what you accuse him of?

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... Cascadiance said on 9/21/2009 @ 6:52 pm PT...





Aidan, Most of this she testified to in a court of law, and is subject to laws of perjury if she knowingly was misrepresenting the truth. Now its possible that there might be some complex disinformation campaign to cover up something that is legitimate, but i that is the case, then someone like Marc Grossman needs to be prepared to accept the costs of such a disinformation campaign and be subject to criminal prosecution for treason. That's not a very smart disinformation campaign if he values his life. Gone unprosecuted, it promotes distrust of our government not following the rule of law to protect our country from within. I think if you claim their's inconsistencies out there that merit throwing out everything she says, you owe it to us to provide us links to substantiate that claim. Would YOU be prepared to go and testify that she's lying like she's already done in making her case? Somehow, I think not.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/21/2009 @ 7:09 pm PT...





Aidan @ 23 said: 10 minutes basic research on the internet and I've found a several flaws in this woman's story. Really? What are they? We don't do hit and run attacks here, Aidan. Either offer the cites/URL's to your information, or you won't be hanging out here very long. Thanks!

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... Progress said on 9/21/2009 @ 7:10 pm PT...





Brad, you're not making sense regarding your disrespect for Wayne Madsen. First of all, I'm wondering why you didn't address "Styve's" concern (comment #9) regarding your initial discrediting in early August of Madsen's report that the Congresswoman in question was Jan Schakowsky. In August you called him irresponsible for using unnamed sources, which happens to be a near universal practice for those who chose to protect them from retribution. Today (Comment #19 above) you answered Molly's question (#18 above) regarding the basis of your disrespect, repeating the accusation that Madsen's use of unnamed sources discredits his credibility. Yet, today's "explosive" story has Edmonds confirming Madsen's initial report that it was in fact Jan Schakowsky. Instead of acknowledging Styve's "I told you so" regarding Madsen's now proved veracity, you ignore it and then use Molly to reaffirm your now discredited claim. By the way, I have found Wayne Madsen to be one of the very few journalists to exercise a healthy skepticism --- at times even outrage --- regarding the dangerous and disproportionate influence of the Israel Lobby within our "republican democracy", but I've never, ever observed him to be "anti-semetic" (sic), as you assert. Dude, you need to come clean and let go of what now appears to be professional jealousy.

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... PissedOffAmerican said on 9/21/2009 @ 7:23 pm PT...





On an issue of this import, inter-blog rivalries, animosities, misunderstandings, or disagreements should not be encouraged or incited by the readers or commentors. It only detracts from the issue at hand, and gives fuel to those that would have us all pewrcieved as conspiracy kooks and malcontents. If Wayne and Brad have ideological conflicts that have nothing to do with actual events or developments, I for one hope they won't be aired on a public forum. We need to keep our eye on the ball.

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... Joe Blow said on 9/21/2009 @ 9:16 pm PT...





Brad, there's a good chance that "Aidan" is a plant. Turkish lobby posters like Kirlikovali like very non Turkish aliases, plus they can't help attacking Sibel's gender in place of her facts. Deep sexism is not an exclusively Turkish mindset, I admit.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... Neomorte said on 9/21/2009 @ 9:32 pm PT...





The Shit is about to hit the fan. Get ready for something wicked on Tuesday. It's coming fast.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... Sally said on 9/21/2009 @ 9:59 pm PT...





Sorry I need to correct my own comment above. "approved the issuing of Special Drawing Rights (SDR) by the "Bank of International Settlements" "approved the issuing of Special Drawing Rights (SDR) by the "International Monetary Fund"

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... jaik said on 9/21/2009 @ 10:03 pm PT...





So this whole article and its wild far reaching allegation are all built on the heresay of one person in a low level FBI position who got fired? Not to say its not true, but thats pretty slim as far as evidence. How would a translator for the federal cops even have had access to most of this if it were true? Not to say that it can't be true, but it falls below the standard of evidence, allegation doesn't mean fact. Investigation is not a bad idea of course.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/21/2009 @ 10:49 pm PT...





Progress @ 29 asked: In August you called him irresponsible for using unnamed sources, which happens to be a near universal practice for those who chose to protect them from retribution. "Near universal"? Nonsense. We will use unnamed sources here on on the absolute rarest of occasions, and even then, largely when there is some form of documentation to present to go with it and/or other corroborating and independently verifiable information for readers. Madsen uses "sources say" constantly, while presenting little or no documentation to go with it. Often it's complete and utter nonsense. When he has used documentation (see the Saudi check, for example), it was phony, and took about 15 minutes for us to check it out and find that to be the case. He never bothered to do so, and then never came clean about it, but instead told readers that it had really been a clever trick by the Bush crime family, or some such, to keep him from noticing a different story (the Clint Curtis story, which he then proceeded to also botch). Sorry. Those are the facts. As I said, I'm sure he's a very nice fellow and means well. But he does no favors for the profession of journalism. I assure you, there is no "professional jealousy" here, as someone suggested upthread. I wish him all the luck in the world. Just wish it didn't come at such a huge cost to so many important issues, and to the credibility of legitmate reporters on the Internets. Yet, today's "explosive" story has Edmonds confirming Madsen's initial report that it was in fact Jan Schakowsky. A broken clock is also correct twice a day. That aside, I don't enjoy this report on Schakowsky myself, as there is no evidence that she's committed any crimes, or even knew about the taping, if it's true. However, Edmonds has now made the claim, in print, on the record, and so it needs to be reported out as such. Madsen neither quoted any sources, nor cited any crimes in his article. That is irresponsible in my opinion, as I mentioned previously. Hope that clears it up. And I agree with the poster who says this sort of discussion is unseamly, which is why I've tried to avoid doing so. But as I've been asked now several times in these recent threads by readers, I thought I'd reply. Nothing to hide, and nothing to be concerned about. I just find him to be an unreliable source of news, and so I don't either read him or cite him. I also have been trying to avoid disparaging him for many years, because it's just ugly and a huge distraction from what actually matters. Which I hope we can now get back to. Thanks!

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 9/21/2009 @ 10:56 pm PT...





Jaik @ 34 said: So this whole article and its wild far reaching allegation are all built on the heresay of one person in a low level FBI position who got fired? "Hearsay"? No. Aside from Edmonds' credibility having been attested to by high officials in both houses of Congress, in the DoJ inspector general's office, by a number of her colleagues in the FBI and in other branches of the government, various elements of the story have been indepdently corroborated by papers such as the Sunday Times of London, Vanity Fair and more. How would a translator for the federal cops even have had access to most of this if it were true? You need to read up on her stories. I've offered many links for you in the above story. There are scores more here at BRAD BLOG and hundreds more elsewhere. Not to say that it can't be true, but it falls below the standard of evidence, allegation doesn't mean fact. You are correct. Allegation doesn't mean fact. Which is why her allegations are pointed out as such. And why investigation is called for (and being done, by those of us who give a damn, even with the meager resources we are able to scrape together). A better question may be why folks like Henry Waxman did not hold an investigation once his party attained the majority in Congress, as he supposedly had promised he would. Another question is why the U.S. corporate media hasn't seen fit to investigate. The media in other countries have done so, but by and large the U.S. corporate media has been entirely silent, save for 60 Minutes' 2002 report. Why haven't they followed up, now that she's able to speak and tell the whole story? Investigation is not a bad idea of course. Glad to see you agree.

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]

... Eric Pottenger said on 9/21/2009 @ 11:38 pm PT...





Brad, Although I'm happy this story is reaching a wider audience; and although I'm supportive of your right to write the articles on this blog as you see fit; I would prefer that you spend less space pondering upon the juicy mysteries of a bi-sexual "hooking" operation, and more space as to how our political system has been subverted in more ways than one. For those of us that had the opportunity to watch Sibel's deposition, yes, I'm sure all of us are curious as to who this mystery-congresswoman is. I grant you that. and perhaps we have a good reason to want to know, even though Sibel cannot say whether or not this congresswoman even compromised herself. but, again, for those of us that already watched Sibel's deposition, what we really need now is a well-thought analysis, and perhaps more information to spread around the blogosphere. you know what I mean? what I mean to suggest is: say you're encountering this story for the first time. what are the immediate impressions you would come away with? and are those the impressions that you, as the writer, hope to convey? sex is distracting. one tends to lose their train of thought. it's the whole physiology thing. like I indicated above, I'm glad you're getting the story out. and, naturally, write how you see fit.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/22/2009 @ 3:19 am PT...





Sex is not distracting. Sexual blackmail is a foreign espionage tactic. This is a case of foreign espionage, and blackmail is central to it (see Hastert and Google sexpionage). Mossad is the world leader in this tactic and has every phone in the US wiretapped. Lewinsky? Chandra Levy? Do the math. It is clear that AIPAC only allows men and women who are subject to some form of blackmail to enter the political arena at the outset. How many closeted gay Republican Senators and Congressman are there, really? How long is the list of prominent public officials caught in the web of sexpionage by foreign "swallows" and "ravens?" Whatever happened to the story about the wild poker parties at the Watergate? It's not just relevant, it's central. A feature, not a bug.

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/22/2009 @ 5:15 am PT...





EDMONDS: Absolutely. And we also had Pentagon officials doing the same thing. We were looking at Richard Perle and Douglas Feith. They had a list of individuals in the Pentagon broken down by access to certain types of information. Some of them would be policy related, some of them would be weapons-technology related, some of them would be nuclear-related. Perle and Feith would provide the names of those Americans, officials in the Pentagon, to Grossman, together with highly sensitive personal information: this person is a closet gay; this person has a chronic gambling issue; this person is an alcoholic. The files on the American targets would contain things like the size of their mortgages or whether they were going through divorces. One Air Force major I remember was going through a really nasty divorce and a child custody fight. They detailed all different kinds of vulnerabilities. http://www.amconmag.com/...ticle/2009/nov/01/00006/

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]

... Ernest A. Canning said on 9/22/2009 @ 8:24 am PT...





Thanks Brad for an extremely well-written summation of Sibel's revelations. While the word "explosive" may well be an understatement, I can't say that we should be shocked by any of this. Corruption is endemic to the very structure of our corporate, ad revenue-based electoral system that in most instances excludes any who do not sell their souls to the multinational corporate conglomerates, Wall Street and international finance in order to acquire the money required for deceptive campaign advertising. From the betrayal of the American electorate it is but a small step to the betrayal of the nation to foreign lobbyists and governments. Even if every one of the individuals Sibel names were successfully prosecuted for treason (no doubt, many should be), the problem will remain so long as we allow ourselves to be deceived by the corporate-owned media and the PR industry. In this context, the corporate media's failure to cover Sibel's explosive allegations is understandable. Once the word gets out, people may begin to raise the very question as to whether the explanation for endemic corruption lies in the structure of a system which permits a handful of giant media conglomerates to not only control 95% of what we see, hear and read but to determine whom we elect, with those not willing to play the corporate shell game marginalized as "unelectable."

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]

... chris said on 9/22/2009 @ 8:56 am PT...





This is why we are getting so much shit about a shitty healthcare bill that could never pass. Look over here there's nothing to look at over there.

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]

... polishspeaker said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:06 am PT...





on Jan Schakowsky:

it is funny, since the firstname Jan is a Polish counterpart of John. So the congresswoman has a male firstname.

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]

... phil said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:31 am PT...





COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/22/2009 @ 3:19 am PT... COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... phil said on 9/22/2009 @ 2:36 am PT... hmm? CONFLICT.

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]

... phil said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:33 am PT...





Fine I will slam it a second time Your comment is awaiting moderation. Wanna know what I'd like to see now? 1000+ hours over the next year, of pure hard core blood sweat and production work (e.g. Air Time / Final Product on Broadcast Spectrum) in all network studio's, all discussing this, and forcing by proxy of sheer volume of people becoming informed to force the government to get to the bottom of this ASAP. And the REASON is: If corruption IS in government, it needs to get the hell out of Classified Computer Networks, and our Classified Documents as fast as possible, with accuracy, and without becoming a witch hunt. If someone is named and we simply shut them down (by limiting their fucking security clearance) until it can be proven they aren't a screw up. Why is this concept so hard to understand? Cause nobody explains it to YOU like this. That's why. Simultaneously 400+ hours on electronic vote tabulation devices. Nice how the media neglects this shit until election crunch time and then uses TIME ITSELF as a weapon against us, when the friggin electronic vote count screws the pooch with no public oversight. Simultaneously 400+ hours on Senators, and the Monetary system. Before the dollar goes to zero and the bond market forces our Government to be "no more." Simultaneously 400+ Hours on FISA and the Path to roll back our Constitution to the pre- 1970's backup. I joke somewhat but it ain't funny, my country feels DIRTY! Simultaneously 400+ hours on Fascism in 2009 and public methods to hold responsible the Media by making the comments in their public file's hold the key to their ability to hold a frequency allocation and station license. If they are not in the public interest then what are they doing on public spectrum? That ought to fit the FCC's "education for children" on all Broadcast spectrum. Even reading rainbow should be shoved to the side. With the added benefit, we can start cleaning our government up, one arrest warrant at a time, while the people clean up the representatives up, one transparent paper ballot hand counted with an unbroken public chain of custody at a time. Alternatively "they" (don't tell me you don't know who they is) can just keep driving the United States Of America off the cliff.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]

... phil said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:35 am PT...





Your comment is awaiting moderation. Fine I will slam it a second time Your comment is awaiting moderation. Wanna know what I'd like to see now?

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]

... phil said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:49 am PT...





Fine, http://sacxtra.com/mbs/node/386 Yeah same number as the cpu.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]

... phil said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:57 am PT...





ps: I am hoping this isn't punishment for accidentally digg-"ed" or dugg the wrong fucking ACORN thread. --- Yeah I made a mistake. But with the shit that is news these days, it's easy to do, at least I admit I fucked up. Frankly, I think ACORN is done. Stick a fork in it. I don't agree, but there it is. Oh let's not play games here, Sibel Edmonds intel is way too important for this petty nonsense. Then again maybe the moderator screwed the pooch. Or maybe you want me to shut the fuck up cause my shit covers too much info at one sitting? I dunno. I do know eventually I will find out, If I was bad in some way. I am fucking sorry.

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]

... joe blow said on 9/22/2009 @ 10:39 am PT...





lets pay the turkish lobby to bribe congress into passing health care reform.

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]

... Kathleen said on 9/22/2009 @ 10:41 am PT...





One person posted the American Conservative article at Seminal at Firedoglake( would put money that this post will not make that little box over at FDL) The "editors" and chosen 'team" over there only allow what they like in that little box and then filter down what stays in their previous entries. Interesting filtering process going on over there. Most of us know that there are serious blog clogs when it comes to Sibel Edmonds or anything that might shed any attention on the I or Turkish lobby and how they are intertwined and have undermined U.S. national Security. You can be sure that Rachel, Keith, and the rest of the crew at MSNBC and other MSm outlets will not touch this article and its contents. Sibel is a brave woman and a true patriot

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]

... Kathleen said on 9/22/2009 @ 11:03 am PT...





Nothing about this article or Sibel coming out up at Huffington Post, RAw Story, Crooks and Liars. Wonder how long if any of these alleged liberal blogs will touch this story. Or do most of these blogs avoid writing or posting anything that would shed a negative light on the I lobby. Blog Clogs when it comes to anything close to shedding a bad light on the lobby at these three sites for sure.

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]

... sunnysteve said on 9/22/2009 @ 11:21 am PT...





I tried to reference the article on Taegan Goddard's Political Wire. Never made it past the "editor".

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]

... PissedOffAmerican said on 9/22/2009 @ 12:00 pm PT...





If you do a google "News" search on "Sibel Edmonds", the American Conservative article doesn't show up. Over at "The Washington Note", despite my needling, Steve Clemons has just snubbed me, http://www.thewashington...ill_clintons_g/#comments Posted by Steve Clemons, Sep 22 2009, 2:11PM - "I have decided not to cover the Sibel Edmonds story as I have told you before my friend. Just not into it. Others are way ahead on the detail, and I don't have time to drill down into the story. But I will not revisit it. I tried once and just am not into sorting through the volume of material that is out there --- and some of which I don't have confidence in." "You are welcome to post what you will here. But I won't be writing about Edmonds unless something in the dynamic of her story and its traction changes. Thus far, I don't believe I have an onramp to the story --- and am too busy with other stuff" "Good luck to her though and to those pushing the story" Steve Clemons End quote. I wonder, doesn't sworn testimony equate to a "change in traction"??? It'd be nice to see Sibel post a response at TWN. Steve's intransigence on this issue is beginning to get my hackles up.

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]

... shaj said on 9/22/2009 @ 12:50 pm PT...





Bradly; The Turks are not a Race. "any individual within the Republic of Turkey; whatever his/her faith or racial/ethnic background; who speaks Turkish, grows up with Turkish culture and adopts the Turkish ideal, is a Turk." That's what I love about you, you always check your Fax, you jackass.

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]

... cann4ing said on 9/22/2009 @ 1:01 pm PT...





So Shaj, are you trying to tell us that the government of Turkey makes no distinction between a predominantly Muslim majority and ethnic Armenians who live within borders of Turkey? Oh, your post is so enlightening. Now I know why they deny the Armenian genocide? There are no Armenians. They're all Turks. So how could the Turks carry out a genocide?

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]

... Seattle_Truthseeker said on 9/22/2009 @ 1:03 pm PT...





Brad, Having once worked in highly classified programs, and having an intel background, this is making me physically ill. These allegations, makes all of our representatives suspect - each a potential traitor, far worse than Robert Hansen. Now each must be cleared of the cloud of espionage against the people of the United States of America. Against each of us - sold out for a few peices of silver and dirty movies. Of all crimes large and small there is none worse than that of traitor to ones own country and people. Ms. Edmonds should (but will not) go down into history books as the greatest patriot to have served her country and her fellow citizens. Rather America will sleep on, and watch reality television and football games - Rome has burned and they do not realize it.

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]

... ConcernedCitizen said on 9/22/2009 @ 1:21 pm PT...





Total nonsense. But I liked the sex part. I am ready to give all the information that I have to interested parties if they send me good looking hot women. Serious..

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]

... shaj said on 9/22/2009 @ 1:22 pm PT...





@Seattle_Truthseeker, Politicians are corrupt and their is no Santa Claus but St. Nick was from Turkey and According to the 1985 Book "Nuclear Battlefields" Turkey has 500 NATO Atomic weapons on it's soil. So the Turks should know about Nukes cause they got so many of NATO's overthere. cann4ing I was just Quoting Ataturk and Correcting Bradley.

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]

... PLUNGER said on 9/22/2009 @ 1:41 pm PT...





Breaking News - Sibel Edmonds Does Not Exist! http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8385

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]

... Seattle_Truthseeker said on 9/22/2009 @ 1:53 pm PT...





I DO realize that politicians are corrupt, however this is NOT corruption this is espionage under United States Code (USC) Title 18, para 794(a) Espionage against the people of the United States and Para 794(c) Conpiracy to commit.

When I was granted access to classified information, I took my oath seriously (as do everyone except traitors), and realized the penalty for breach of that oath is and remains DEATH. Sir, or Madam, this is not simple corruption. I believe that anyone including Ms. Edmonds holds the same view, and understands the implications of espionage and sabotage, and the gravity of the protection of classified information, regardless of sensitivity. These traitors put each and every American citizen at risk. Again far more so than Robert Hanssen, who until this occured was the worst spy and traitor in the history of the United States.

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]

... shaj said on 9/22/2009 @ 2:09 pm PT...





"Robert Hanssen, who until this occured was the worst spy and traitor in the history of the United States." Wrong again Bra, he is the worst spy and traitor, Caught. If Slick Willie can give the PRC Satellite Secrets, so that they can use them to take over Taiwan, any day now. And the Busch Family can push China to the most favored trading status then Wacko Hansen is just small Potatoes. Real Small. And please Do not tell me your were NSA or CIA Or DOD, please.

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]

... dogout said on 9/22/2009 @ 2:57 pm PT...





Hey Plunger!!! I was so impressed to see your post on FDL this afternoon after reading the comments here first.

And now it's gone gone gone.

You guys were right. How disheartening!!!

COMMENT #62 [Permalink]

... Styve said on 9/22/2009 @ 3:25 pm PT...





Dogout...

The FDL thread has not been removed, just backpaged, or something to make it more difficult to find. http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8366

COMMENT #63 [Permalink]

... Barney the Purple Dinosaur said on 9/22/2009 @ 3:35 pm PT...





What's with all the f#ckin' italics?

COMMENT #64 [Permalink]

... Chris Hooten said on 9/22/2009 @ 7:15 pm PT...





Where the hell do they sell that rag? It wasn't at borders or barnes & Noble. Oh well, maybe it will be there within the next few days. I would never have pictured myself purchasing a copy of "The American Conservative..."

COMMENT #65 [Permalink]

... Chris Hooten said on 9/22/2009 @ 7:16 pm PT...





italics no italics

COMMENT #66 [Permalink]

... Chris Hooten said on 9/22/2009 @ 7:17 pm PT...





well, that didn't work, did it. Hey Brad, close italics is not working right. Thank you.

COMMENT #67 [Permalink]

... Progress said on 9/22/2009 @ 8:00 pm PT...





Regarding Sibel's report of disinformation channels, I wonder who the moles are at the New York Times? Discounting all those revealed through informed intuition, that is. I think it's safe to guess that Judith Miller was one. Her little trip to jail to protect her source (Libby) was quite a farce, especially after riding through Iraq looking for WMDs escorted by Ahmed Chalabi.

COMMENT #68 [Permalink]

... ACDC said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:34 pm PT...





ANYONE who believes in the msm media at this point is clueless, afraid, or in complete denial of reality. I have followed this for years and am astounded at the media deception. It's worse than the cold war and what they say "THEY" said they said. Think about all the "COVERAGE" of ... -Jon Benet Ramsey -You know the rest And Hastert making 35 G a month playing this crap in Chicago gets not a peep? Let alone this is the tip of the iceberg? I watched all the tapes and it was pretty obvious that Turkey and ATC was a front for CIA / MOSSAD

ops. These are the guys that pulled 911. Mossad and CIA and all those revolving doors that the media refuses to look at just like Sibel. It's sickening.

COMMENT #69 [Permalink]

... Styve said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:36 pm PT...





Hey Progress~

Thanks for the mention last eve, and we did get some good fodder from Brad re WMR, for sure. It is too bad reporting avenues get polluted with ideological protectionism, if that makes sense. My understanding of the Clint Curtis matter is different from what Brad related, but not going to get into a he said/he said thing. What are the next steps, and when can cuffs be put on the perps...can you bottomline this for me?!

COMMENT #70 [Permalink]

... ACDC said on 9/22/2009 @ 9:55 pm PT...





Call me a racist if you feel the need but, WHO (Israel) benefited from Saddam and Iraq being attacked. ISI was tied into this mess also. WHO benefits when we saw what happened on 911 and WHO profited the most. Why was the FOX expose by Carl Cameron wiped on the spying on US citizens? Y?

COMMENT #71 [Permalink]

... Jessica Ramer said on 9/24/2009 @ 4:06 pm PT...





I can't help but notice how the article is written. The trivial stuff--whether Schakowsky hd an affair--is featured close to the beginning of the article while the important stuff--Perle, Wolfowitz, and Feith discussing invading and partitioning Iraq four months BEFORE 911 is only covered at the end of the article. Maybe you have a reason for this--like trying to attract the attention of the MSM--but this article seems like a trivilization of an incredibly important story. I don't care who Schakowsky did or didn't have sex with. I do care that many thousands of human beings have died because Pentagon officials thirsted for war with a country that posed absolutely no threat to us.

COMMENT #72 [Permalink]

... MsKitty said on 9/24/2009 @ 6:06 pm PT...





I imagine the Kurds would be very concerned about becoming part of Turkey.

COMMENT #73 [Permalink]

... Sand said on 9/25/2009 @ 10:27 am PT...

