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07/31/2009

They only want to take away our rights -- why should they listen to us?

by Jeremy Hooper

The states may change. The far-right's war on fair dissenting views does not:

Stand For Marriage Maine's official Facebook page, 3:10PM:



Stand For Marriage Maine's official Faacebook page, 3:14PM:



It's the social media equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going, "la, la, la, la, la..."

**UPDATE, 3:25: Now, every single post that is not anti-gay has been yanked. Feel free to go add your own (firm but fair) contributions.

**UPDATE: 4:20: This is the kind of "militancy" they're deleting:

Your thoughts

Funny how you have the huevos to post dissenting views on the professional anti-gay sites' "comments" boards, and they are deleted. But on your site, where you actually allow dissenting opinions, none of the the chief bigots-for-pay will either allow you to post their comments or actually bother trying to rationalize their positions. Telling.

Posted by: Sykler | Jul 31, 2009 3:32:35 PM

Jeremy, I'm assuming that this isn't the first time they have deleted your wall posts. right? Its this "You're wrong, I'm right because my God says so" mentality that drives me nuts and their facts are from an anti-gay group either using old research that is no longer true or they make it up from what they "think" is true. It sickens me.

Posted by: Sam | Jul 31, 2009 3:46:23 PM

Seriously, every single one of us needs to go over to that Facebook page and do some screen-capturing. What the defenders of SM-Maine are saying is some kinda crazy...and should be heard by all the good citizens of Maine. "Wasn't Hitler gay?" "Did he save homosexuals...for preferential treatment?" But don't worry, undecided Mainers...your Washington, DC-based friends at SM-Maine are only trying to "Protect Marriage". For now.

Posted by: Sykler | Jul 31, 2009 3:52:43 PM

I posted this ( http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/531/429.png ) at 4:29 above another pro-equality post. Both were gone by 4:33.

Posted by: Adam | Jul 31, 2009 4:37:15 PM

Good job capturing it, Adam. Everyone else, feel free to do the same. Upload your pics to a free image sharing site like imageshack and post it here.

Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 31, 2009 4:45:47 PM

For kicks, I posted this. They deleted it within a couple of minutes, so it looks like they oppose ALL posts, not just anti-LGB ones (heh heh, shoulder nudge) http://www.b3tards.com/u/da840f156184f3d0d146/picture_16.png Also, I wrote this - which as of 8 minutes ago had neither been deleted nor commented upon: http://www.b3tards.com/u/da840f156184f3d0d146/picture_19.png

Posted by: Harrison | Jul 31, 2009 5:11:15 PM

perhaps we should have a posting campaign. Get as many folks as you can to write respectful pro-gay stuff on their wall. Swamp and overwhelm them till their whole day is spent trying to keep up with the deletions.



Posted by: Joe Brummer | Jul 31, 2009 5:16:01 PM

The really need to go here to find out what they are really fighting for in a bible based marriage and is quite funny to boot. And it is all true in every version of the bible I have study it is all in there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw And if you wish you may check out my attempt into the blogging realm. http://religiousfalacies.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Odell Davis | Jul 31, 2009 5:52:20 PM

Why are we bothering to convince the tiny minority of professional bigots to change their minds when the majority of people in this country support marriage equality? Leave the crazies alone and focus on the people who actually have the power to change things but refuse to, like Homophobe in Chief Obama.

Posted by: Lonnie | Jul 31, 2009 6:05:51 PM

Lonnie: First off, please, please, please don't take Maine for granted. People thought California was a sure thing. It wasn't and neither is Maine. Secondly: This post isn't about just that one F'book page. It's about the entire anti-gay movement, and how they handle views other than their own. Here at G-A-Y, we build a database of all this stuff. The sum of the parts becomes powerful. As this campaign rolls along, their official F'book page will surely be a place for their supporters to gather. We're getting there early, making our case. And we are tracking their behavior, so that we can show the public what their fight and their overall movement is really all about. This one post is going all over the place -- the story of their deletion becomes far better activism than any one of our comments would have been by itself.

Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 31, 2009 6:20:53 PM

lol @hoover

you should print up some fake buisiness cards "Jiminy Hoover - Hellbound Homo Heretic"

Posted by: Ashton | Jul 31, 2009 7:39:01 PM

Are they manning the delete button 24/7? There is probably a point in the evening when posted comments might stick, at least until the next morning. And, just because they delete a comment doesn't mean that you can't post the same comment again. I save typed text as draft emails, and then can just copy from that draft email and paste it into the comment form. It might sound a bit heavy handed, could even be considered flaming, but pasting the same comment three or four times a day...

Posted by: Dick Mills | Jul 31, 2009 8:15:07 PM

No disrespect to the shape of Maine but doesn't that logo look like a big knife or wedge is plunging into that family, ready to drive it apart? That's what they want, those S4MMs! They want to attack children with big knives!!!!

Posted by: Glenn I | Aug 1, 2009 1:26:26 AM

Radical pro-hate crimes, pro-bullying, anti-gay activists have one motto: "Freedom of speech is mine, not thine." The minute a pro-equality American tries to speak up with a different opinion, it's deleted, censored or in the case of large, pro-homophobia advocacy groups like AFA, it's boycotted and threatened. Now, these anti-gay groups are out to take away our freedom of assembly and association as evidenced by the recent anti-gay spectacle in Charlotte, NC at Pride in which their basic goal was to surround and silence a pro-gay celebration and stop it from happening in the future.

Posted by: Michael | Aug 1, 2009 5:45:17 AM

I posted two comments on their wall last night @12:30AM:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9984/picture9jeh.png

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8981/picture11j.png and by the next morning they were deleted:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4867/picture14c.png

Posted by: John | Aug 1, 2009 11:44:09 AM

Yep... my post was deleted too. Luckily I have it saved on my desktop so I'll keep re-posting the exact same message and document the amount of times it is deleted.

Posted by: Forky | Aug 1, 2009 4:40:22 PM

Love how any time they get criticized for their rabid anti-gay views they whine that they're "being silenced" yet they outright delete anything that isn't anti-gay whenever they have the opportunity. Who is being silenced? My comment on their page, which won't last long:

"Buffy Lavender Hear hear! Stand for Marriage (as long as it's heterosexuals only). Nothing says "freedom of religion" like the state telling churches who they can and cannot marry. Freedom for some, the right to do the hair of the free for others!"

54 seconds ago · Report

Posted by: Buffy | Aug 2, 2009 4:55:22 AM

I left like 15 comments on there, all pretty civil and fair minded I think. Let's see how long they last...

Posted by: Stef | Aug 2, 2009 3:04:10 PM

Here's a capture from 10:00 this morning. (It's 2M, so don't be surprised if it takes a few seconds to download.) http://blog.mattalgren.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/stand-for-marriage-maine-08-03-09-1001.png

Posted by: Matt Algren | Aug 3, 2009 10:07:46 AM

It's a good thing I got that one too. Less than 15 minutes later everything from the last 11 hours is gone.

Posted by: Matt Algren | Aug 3, 2009 10:23:43 AM

Did anybody screen-cap that guy on Monday who said homosexuality is a virus? And that homosexualists will sodomize you if you don't stand up for your rights? Please, please, please! Those comments should - nay - MUST live on for all time. I'd have screen-capped them, but I wasn't using my home computer at the time. PS: Jeremy, how do you do this every day? Tracking *one* itty-bitty facebook page for just two days has exhausted me.

Posted by: DN | Aug 4, 2009 10:09:51 AM

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