I feel like we’re taking steps in the right direction. I think having a major push on the jobs focus is really, really important, and I think that’s a good first step. But you know, we’ve got to really come strong, Willie, with saying, look, we’re the party to be able to handle the economy in the 21st century. We have the convergence of so many different elements happening right now, globalization, automation, artificial intelligence, all of these different other opportunities within the economy.

And right now I don’t think either political party has quite gotten their hands around it. And what I want the Democratic Party to be, is to be a party that can set an agenda to try to deal with those issues that will drive up wages, help people be able to afford college and health care and all the rest.

But let me be clear, I don’t think we can be hostile to business. I think, you know, while we can be for a progressive tax code, we can be for an increase in dividends and corporate — you know, other kind of business taxes, I think we need to simplify the tax code. I think we need to lower the corporate tax rate. We can’t just be the party of redistribution of wealth. We’ve got to be the party of creation of wealth. And not just in Silicon Valley and Wall Street. In Youngstown, in the south, we’ve got to create new wealth in this new economy. And I really want the Democrats to be the party that’s going to get their arms around this big issue.