Rahm Emanuel likes to talk. The two-term mayor of Chicago and former White House chief of staff to President Obama spoke with us at length about everything from populism to immigration. He told us that Chicago is a “welcoming” city, not a sanctuary city. He’s got a special chair and some sharp words for “Mr. Moody’s Doom and Gloom,” otherwise known as Kai Ryssdal. Plus, Emanuel takes the longest pause ever to answer our Make Me Smart Question.

Join our book club and read our first official Make Me Smart book selection, “The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion,” which was suggested by Scott Weinman.