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(Vanity) What's the deal with the GOP blocking the 9/11 First Responders Senate bill?

Fox News on YouTube ^ | Dec 17 2010 | Shepard Smith

Posted on by VictoryGal

I first heard the following on Fox. I am no Shep Smith fan but I was outraged to hear this:

"We can't give health care to Ground Zero first responders who ran right into the fire? Went down there to save people? Do people know what this city was like that day? People were walking over bridges, they were covered in ash, they were running for their lives, they were crying, their family members were dead. And these people ran to Ground Zero to save people's lives. And we're not going to even give them medicine for the illnesses they got down there? It's disgusting, it's a national disgrace, it's a shame and everybody who voted against should have to stand up and account for himself or herself."

Now, I haven't heard anything about this from Rush, or Sean, or Beck, The Great One, etc. So I looked into it and I was expecting the dumb Democraps, in their race to multiculturalize the military and spend our grandchildren into ChiCom servitude, were blocking this important bill to take care of the heroes.

I was SHOCKED to find that it was REPUBLICANS blocking the bill. !!! http://theerant.yuku.com/topic/36730

And I don't know why!

We need to call out jerks on OUR side of the aisle when they disrespect American heroes just as we would for treasonous Dims. I am very disappointed in Rush, etc. for not dealing with this bill -- either fighting for its passage or saying why it is a bad deal.

FRiends, what in the WORLD is going on? My volunteer firefighter friends back in my native Long Island -- solid conservatives all -- are furious. So am I.



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Also, can someone explain why NO ONE (I know the MSM won't talk about the heroes -- but our guys??) is talking about this?



To: VictoryGal

We talked about this days ago when it happened. Sheperd is scum. Should be on MSNBC. This was basically a grandstanding fake bill. Others have more details than I.



To: VictoryGal

And we're not going to even give them medicine for the illnesses they got down there? I don't know the details of this issue, but I do know hyperbole when I hear it. I suspect there's another side to this story.



by 3 posted onby ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)

To: VictoryGal

58,000 people have applied for free lifetime health care and cash payments.



To: VictoryGal

The expenditures need to be justified by cutting less important spending. yitbos



by 5 posted onby bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)

To: VictoryGal

I don't know a lot about what is in the bill. However, I don't think it's really about health care to Ground Zero first responders. After all, these are unionized government workers that have great health care. I think it's about another unfunded payout.



To: VictoryGal

What else was in the bill or, what piece of undigestible crap legislation was this attached too?



To: VictoryGal

I just saw something about that on Fox awhile ago. Forget who they were talking to one of the republican Senators. He said it’s because it’s like all the other bills. No one has had time to go through it and look at it as it is written. He said they would take it up when the new congress came in.



by 8 posted onby MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)

To: VictoryGal

Is it constitutional for Federal money to go to employees of a city? Yeah, we’re all for state and municipal sovereignty and rights, until it’s feedin’ time from the Federal pig trough.



To: VictoryGal

Were they federal responders? If not, then the money shouldn’t come from the federal government. That is a city/state responsibility. Let the unions take the money they set aside for political purposes and put it to better use.



To: VictoryGal

Read elsewhere that this bill is supposed to cover 60000 people (not just first responders) - does anybody know how many first responders make up this list? I think the Dims want to pass a “Socialized Care for NY Unions” using 911 first responders as an excuse.



To: Carley

Oh so similar to the black farmer payoff debacle. The devil is in the details, and the details are where the evil demorats lurk. It’s there where the answer is.



To: Christian Engineer Mass

Okay, I missed this when it came out, then. Work has been crazy lately and I have only now caught up with politics today (calling my Senators... not that it did us any good, sadly) If someone has a link as to why this is a bad bill I would like to see it.



by 13 posted onby VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)

To: ElkGroveDan

It had something to do with the fact that no one had read the bill and they didn’t want to vote on it before the Republicans had time to go through the bill. Sounds like another dem trick of cramming another bill through that hasn’t been read yet. Probably full of pork and another way for the dems to blame the reps for being hard hearted.



by 14 posted onby MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)

To: VictoryGal

Nobody begrudges legitimate first responders legitimate medical bills being paid. But this is Carte Blanche beyond sanity. Being New York,, it will be scammed 6 ways from sunday and exploited to the hilt. A “first responder” (definition: half of New York State) gets a skin cancer in 15 years later,,, it will be because of 9/11. They all get depression and medically retire. Heart attack,, 9/11. Shingles,,9/11. People are sick of NY milking this for all its worth IMO. This from the people that still haven’t rebuilt it a decade later. Besides, there is another issue. New York state needs to pay their own workers comp claims. And they should sue the Saudis. Wounded soldiers get nothing like the gold plated deal the first responders scam would give. Just my opinion. Ditto for the people like the widows of investment bankers,,etc. Some got millions because their husband died in WTC. If a Lance Corporal died in Afghanistan,, his family might get 50k and a funeral. First reponders deserve not one iota more than a private in the infantry would get. But they would never see that as enough.



by 15 posted onby DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)

To: VictoryGal

Please, they all have health care. They all got paid and were lauded. These are the same guys that worked three or four days straight and would not allow anyone else from other parts of the country to come and relieve them. All for the overtime and now they want more.



by 16 posted onby raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)

To: VictoryGal

This is NOT a First Responders bill....this bill is NOT for the Fireman or Police. It is basically a Union bill. The bill would give free healthcare for life for ANYONE who was near Ground Zero, no proof, no time frame, nothing. It is also a bill for those who were involved in the clean up months afterwards. This bill is so loose with who qualifies that it is a mockery to those who were first responders. Look, my brother was a first responder, NYPD, he was there when the towers fell and for months and months afterwards. By the Grace of God he survived and has few physical medical problems. Some emotional, yes, although not enough to disable him....more to the point that the horror of that day and the months after are so very hard in his head to make anyone actually understand the depth of it.



To: VictoryGal

If Shep is crying, something good must be happening. Shep’s such a loser. What wrong with you that you watch that flamer?



by 18 posted onby ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")

To: VictoryGal

I think the argument against is a slippery slope one. Of course, there has never been anything like 9/11, but running into fire is what these people got/get paid for. It is their job. If we start singling out people doing their jobs in difficult circumstances, where does it stop? Coasties rescuing hurricane victims getting special treatment? Cops in NOLA who didn’t take the opportunity to take 5 finger discounts from WalMart getting special consideration? I am sorry if this seems cold, but deciding to be a cop or fireman (or any in many other types of safety-related professions) is acceptance of being in hazardous situations. The word “hero” is already devaluated to the point of having no meaning at all. Let’s not devaluate those who have chosen safety-related professions as well.



by 19 posted onby freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)

To: VictoryGal

My volunteer firefighter friends back in my native Long Island -- solid conservatives all -- are furious. So am I. Did they go to ground zero?



by 20 posted onby raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)

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