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<p>Per an individual that has an idea of the Vikings off-season plans, the team is intending to make a significant run at RT Ricky Wagner once he hits the UFA market next week. Although it is not confirmed Wagner would come to MN, he is from the upper Midwest and would be coming to a contending team. If the price becomes unreasonable the Vikings are expected to focus on other RT/LT options. At LT the Vikings have an interest in resigning Kalil but will kick the tires on other options before making a commitment.</p>

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<p>What is your take on Wagner? I read (not watched) that he had a very good year last year but in years prior has been very up and down? So not consistent. Also how much money would you be willing to spend to try and get him?</p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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I know this has been said before, also my opinion',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>Ugh...for what it\'s going to cost you could land Zeitler and build an interior to run behind and a pocket for Sam to step up to...He\'s going to be the most overpaid FA out there...</p>

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<p> Yes that is what I am thinking/trying to figure out.</p>

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<p>I would rather pursue a guy like the 26 year old perennial all pro RG in Zeitler for 11 million then Wagner at RT only because of his inconsistency. Zeitler has been consistently all pro so plug and great play from the get-go. Wagner I would be worried about what kind of year he is going to have? It would be great to get both but unrealistic, so I would try this:</p>

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<p>Zeitler for 11+ (because that is the market - IMO)</p>

<p>Resign Kaili for about 5+ with incentives</p>

<p>Sign a guy like Reiff who has played both LT/RT and from a rival. Have Kaili/Reiff compete at LT and if Reiff can\'t win then he is our RT. I think Reiff will be about 6.5 to 7.5.</p>

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<p>So three players for 22-23 million that could possibly fix three positions....possibly.</p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>What is your take on Wagner? I read (not watched) that he had a very good year last year but in years prior has been very up and down? So not consistent. Also how much money would you be willing to spend to try and get him?</p>

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<p>Like, but don\'t love is my take. He is one of those guys that doesn\'t have the full package but makes up for it with pure effort and tenacity.</p>

<p> </p>

<p>Schematically I think he would fill the Vikings RT spot quite well, but the price point definitely is a concern given his inconsistent performance year over year. If you look at comparable players who are making $6M+ at RT, I would prefer all of them to Wagner. Supply/Demand will always control the FA market though. If they can get him around $7M or so with good cash flow up front to make him comfortable with the deal it would be ok. In a year or two assuming the cap keeps rising at the same rate he would likely fall outside the top 5 or 10 RT contracts. Anything over $7M and I would shy away.</p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>Ugh...for what it\'s going to cost you could land Zeitler and build an interior to run behind and a pocket for Sam to step up to...He\'s going to be the most overpaid FA out there...</p>

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<p>Although the Vikings are prioritizing him it doesn\'t mean that they will give him a blank check. If another team is going to come in and offer him $10M+ the Vikings will likely bow out. I guess I don\'t know that, but that has been their MO the past few years.</p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>Ugh...for what it\'s going to cost you could land Zeitler and build an interior to run behind and a pocket for Sam to step up to...He\'s going to be the most overpaid FA out there...</p>

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<p>Yeah, but no tackles in the draft, and lots of guards.</p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>Per an individual that has an idea of the Vikings off-season plans, the team is intending to make a significant run at RT Ricky Wagner once he hits the UFA market next week. Although it is not confirmed Wagner would come to MN, he is from the upper Midwest and would be coming to a contending team. If the price becomes unreasonable the Vikings are expected to focus on other RT/LT options. At LT the Vikings have an interest in resigning Kalil but will kick the tires on other options before making a commitment.</p>

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<p>I\'m not sure how to read this. I wonder are the Vikings PRIORITIZING Wagner, as in your subject line? Meaning that\'s the guy they want more than any of the other right tackles? Or did your source simply say that they intend to make a significant run at Wagner, which should be a given, along with every other right tackle on the market. </p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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True, but I\'d like to spend my FA dollars on a more sure thing...what kills me is I wanted Wagner when he came out...',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>Although the Vikings are prioritizing him it doesn\'t mean that they will give him a blank check. If another team is going to come in and offer him $10M+ the Vikings will likely bow out. I guess I don\'t know that, but that has been their MO the past few years.</p>

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<p>They would have been wise to pay Osemele last season, not to say that Wagner or Zeitler are the same level of player, but that they may need to spend a little more than they\'d like to start stabilizing the line. Now my understanding of Wagner is that he\'s more of a pass blocking RT, which would be good for Bradford, but his run blocking is a bit weak by comparison. Is he a good enough run blocker or could you see Sparano wanting more of a road grader on the right side? Obviously, the other consideration would be if the requirements for tackles are different in Shurmur\'s scheme vs Turner\'s.</p>

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<p>True, but I\'d like to spend my FA dollars on a more sure thing...what kills me is I wanted Wagner when he came out...</p>

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<p>Don\'t get me started on those guys! Bitonio, Richburg, Westerman, Glasgow. I hear ya about the \"sure thing.\" And even though it would be nice to end hitting where the value is, we can\'t approach it like that. Because we might miss. Say we let Zeitler go in favor of a RT. Then all the RTs sign elsewhere. No, I\'m a broken record on this, but we have to be in on everyone. </p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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The way to take it is that Wagner will be one of the first calls they make when the tampering period opens and they aren\'t just curious, they\'ll show that they want to sign him ASAP if they\'re able.',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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The way to take it is that Wagner will be one of the first calls they make when the tampering period opens and they aren\'t just curious, they\'ll show that they want to sign him ASAP if they\'re able.</p></blockquote>

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That\'s good news if true... the Vikings would be better served addressing OT in FA given the strengths and weaknesses of this draft.<br><br>

As much as I love the thought of adding Ziegler... we could probably sign Kalil and Wagner for a similar price. I just can\'t fathom paying an OG 10-12 million per year, no matter how good he is.',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>They would have been wise to pay Osemele last season, not to say that Wagner or Zeitler are the same level of player, but that they may need to spend a little more than they\'d like to start stabilizing the line. Now my understanding of Wagner is that he\'s more of a pass blocking RT, which would be good for Bradford, but his run blocking is a bit weak by comparison. Is he a good enough run blocker or could you see Sparano wanting more of a road grader on the right side? Obviously, the other consideration would be if the requirements for tackles are different in Shurmur\'s scheme vs Turner\'s.</p>

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<p>if the truly migrate to a QB centric offense of the WCO variety is the road grader as important/valuable as it has been for this team in the past? IMO the Vikings proved building a team around a RB is no longer the way to championships, they are a great asset but you have to be able to pass.</p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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<p>if the truly migrate to a QB centric offense of the WCO variety is the road grader as important/valuable as it has been for this team in the past? IMO the Vikings proved building a team around a RB is no longer the way to championships, they are a great asset but you have to be able to pass.</p>

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<p>Probably not, but Sparano tends to prefer big road graders. I can see Wagner fitting what Shumur wants, just a question of how well Sparano can handle guys who don\'t fit the big road grader mold?</p>',1600504820) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)

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INSERT INTO ibps_core_like_cache (`like_cache_id`,`like_cache_app`,`like_cache_area`,`like_cache_rel_id`,`like_cache_data`,`like_cache_expire`) VALUES('eca5dd2f17d9e7ddd3b816c2957da4a8','forums','topics',59189,'a:3:{s:7:\"members\";N;s:5:\"count\";i:0;s:10:\"count_anon\";i:0;}',1600591220) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE like_cache_id=VALUES(like_cache_id),like_cache_app=VALUES(like_cache_app),like_cache_area=VALUES(like_cache_area),like_cache_rel_id=VALUES(like_cache_rel_id),like_cache_data=VALUES(like_cache_data),like_cache_expire=VALUES(like_cache_expire)

SELECT f.*,p.* FROM ibps_forums f LEFT JOIN ibps_permission_index p ON ( p.perm_type_id=f.id AND p.app='forums' AND p.perm_type='forum' ) WHERE f.id=0

SELECT tg.* ,t.*, t.approved, t.title as topic_title, t.posts as topic_posts, t.last_post as topic_last_post,m.*,p.*,xxx.* FROM ibps_core_tags tg LEFT JOIN ibps_topics t ON (t.tid=tg.tag_meta_id) LEFT JOIN ibps_members m ON (last_poster_id=m.member_id) LEFT JOIN ibps_profile_portal p ON (p.pp_member_id=m.member_id) LEFT JOIN ibps_core_tags_cache xxx ON (xxx.tag_cache_key=MD5(CONCAT('forums',';','topics',';',t.tid))) WHERE tg.tag_meta_app='forums' AND tg.tag_meta_area='topics' AND tg.tag_meta_id !=59189 AND tg.tag_text IN ('on topic') AND tg.tag_aai_lookup IN (SELECT tag_perm_aai_lookup FROM ibps_core_tags_perms WHERE ( ( FIND_IN_SET(2,tag_perm_text) ) OR ( tag_perm_text='*' ) ) AND tag_perm_visible=1 ) ORDER BY tg.tag_meta_id desc LIMIT 0,100

SELECT m.*, m.member_id as my_member_id,p.*,pp.*,g.*,ccb.cache_content FROM ibps_members m LEFT JOIN ibps_pfields_content p ON ( p.member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_profile_portal pp ON ( pp.pp_member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_groups g ON ( g.g_id=m.member_group_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_content_cache_sigs ccb ON ( ccb.cache_content_id=m.member_id ) WHERE m.member_id IN (6,36,1806)

SELECT m.*, m.member_id as my_member_id,p.*,pp.*,g.*,ccb.cache_content FROM ibps_members m LEFT JOIN ibps_pfields_content p ON ( p.member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_profile_portal pp ON ( pp.pp_member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_groups g ON ( g.g_id=m.member_group_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_content_cache_sigs ccb ON ( ccb.cache_content_id=m.member_id ) WHERE m.member_id=1133

SELECT b.*,t.tpb_name FROM ibps_ccs_blocks b LEFT JOIN ibps_ccs_template_blocks t ON ( t.tpb_id=b.block_template ) WHERE b.block_active=1

SELECT * FROM ibps_ccs_template_blocks WHERE tpb_name='block__custom_50'

UPDATE ibps_ccs_template_blocks SET tpb_content='<php>ob_start();

$this->DB->query( \"SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15\" );\r

\r

print \"\r

\r

<style>\r

#newsMarquee A{\r

color: #ffffff;\r

}\r

\r

</style>\r

<marquee id=\'newsMarquee\' behavior=\'scroll\' direction=\'left\' \r

onmouseover=\'this.stop();\' \r

onmouseout=\'this.start();\'\r

SCROLLamount=3\r

\r

bgcolor=\'#000000\'\r

>\r

\";\r

\r

while( $r = $this->DB->fetch() )\r

{\r

\r

$url=\"http://{parse block=\'siteurl\'}/index.php?/topic/\".$r[\'tid\'].\"-\".$r[\'title_seo\'];\r

print \"<a href=\'\".$url.\"\' target=\'_blank\'>\".$r[\'title\'].\"</a> \";\r

}\r

print \"\r

</marquee>\r

\";

$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();

ob_end_clean();</php>' WHERE tpb_id=64

INSERT INTO ibps_ccs_template_cache (`cache_type`,`cache_type_id`,`cache_content`) VALUES('block',64,'/* -- block__custom_50 --*/

function block__custom_50($title=\"\",$content=\"\") {

$IPBHTML = \"\";



ob_start();

$this->DB->query( \"SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15\" );\r

\r

print \"\r

\r

<style>\r

#newsMarquee A{\r

color: #ffffff;\r

}\r

\r

</style>\r

<marquee id=\'newsMarquee\' behavior=\'scroll\' direction=\'left\' \r

onmouseover=\'this.stop();\' \r

onmouseout=\'this.start();\'\r

SCROLLamount=3\r

\r

bgcolor=\'#000000\'\r

>\r

\";\r

\r

while( $r = $this->DB->fetch() )\r

{\r

\r

$url=\"http://{parse block=\'siteurl\'}/index.php?/topic/\".$r[\'tid\'].\"-\".$r[\'title_seo\'];\r

print \"<a href=\'\".$url.\"\' target=\'_blank\'>\".$r[\'title\'].\"</a> \";\r

}\r

print \"\r

</marquee>\r

\";

$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();

ob_end_clean();

$IPBHTML .= \"\";

return $IPBHTML;

}

') ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_type=VALUES(cache_type),cache_type_id=VALUES(cache_type_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content)

SELECT cache_content FROM ibps_ccs_template_cache WHERE cache_type='full'

SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15

SELECT * FROM ibps_ccs_template_blocks WHERE tpb_name='block__custom_53'

UPDATE ibps_ccs_template_blocks SET tpb_content='<php>ob_start();

echo\"www.vikefans.com\";

$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();

ob_end_clean();</php>' WHERE tpb_id=67

INSERT INTO ibps_ccs_template_cache (`cache_type`,`cache_type_id`,`cache_content`) VALUES('block',67,'/* -- block__custom_53 --*/

function block__custom_53($title=\"\",$content=\"\") {

$IPBHTML = \"\";



ob_start();

echo\"www.vikefans.com\";

$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();

ob_end_clean();

$IPBHTML .= \"\";

return $IPBHTML;

}

') ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_type=VALUES(cache_type),cache_type_id=VALUES(cache_type_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content)

SELECT * FROM ibps_cache_store WHERE cs_key IN ( 'blogmods' )

SELECT * FROM ibps_blog_this WHERE bt_app='forums' AND bt_id1=59189

SHUTDOWN: INSERT INTO ibps_sessions (`id`,`member_name`,`member_id`,`member_group`,`login_type`,`running_time`,`ip_address`,`browser`,`in_error`,`current_appcomponent`,`current_module`,`current_section`,`location_1_type`,`location_1_id`,`location_2_type`,`location_2_id`,`location_3_type`,`location_3_id`,`uagent_key`,`uagent_version`,`uagent_type`,`uagent_bypass`) VALUES('02efaabc9cc32d93041a90378ea91af0','',0,2,0,1600504820,'34.74.224.236','newspaper/0.2.8',0,'forums','forums','topics','topic',59189,'forum',0,'',0,'__NONE__',0,'',0)