Pretty special. Jake is playing now. His brother Joe played for us the last five years. It's really been fun for me to watch them grow and come here and see the experience they're having and the success they're having on the field. I sit in my office and watch them practice, so it's really good. ... Joe didn't want anybody to know I was his grandfather. He didn't want anyone to think he got any special privileges, which he didn't. (Jake's) a totally different animal. He doesn't care what anybody thinks. I'm very sensitive towards it. I try to keep my distance and let them have their space, but I'm really proud of them and it's really fun for me to watch.