STEVE DOOCY (HOST): Meanwhile, remember when Spokane, Washington's NAACP leader Rachel Dolezal lied about her race?

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Well, now after being caught in that lie, she is still sticking to her story.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: Do you feel now that you have any regrets about some of the things you said about yourself that have now been revealed to not be true?

RACHEL DOLEZAL: I'm not sure what you're referring to with that, but definitely I don't have any regrets about how I identify. I'm still me. And nothing about that has changed.

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DOOCY: Well, what's the psychology behind this particular kind of race fraud? Here to weigh in is psychiatrist Dr. Keith Ablow of the Fox News medical A-team. Why would she start in the first place identifying as a black woman?

KEITH ABLOW: Well, some people would say she lied for secondary gain. Other people would say --

DOOCY: What do you mean secondary gain? For a job?

ABLOW: Well to be given a job, in order to be included in a particular advocacy group or to garner the, you know, endorsement of people who employ her. But the bottom line is the other possibility is that she in my mind you'd say, “well is she psychiatrically ill?” Because if she really believes that she's a black woman, well, then she's delusional. Just like if you believe that you were say from another planet.

DOOCY: Keith, she does not, she says there's no proof that my biological parents are my biological parents.

ABLOW: Well, so here's the new world order. According to this woman, she is African-American. You can't believe that she was born of her parents. This is called disassembling reality. Now, in psychiatry, you call that a delusion. In some sectors of our culture, you call that choice. Now, the bottom line is --

DOOCY: Wait, you cannot choose your race.

ABLOW: Well --

DOOCY: Can you?

ABLOW: Of course you can't. I'm here as a psychiatrist and as a human being to tell you of course you can't. But there are people and they're Democrats and liberals and they're people who would say “yes you can.” And I've been told by lawyers I consult that “hey, if I think I'm 65 and I say my entire self-concept is that of a 65 year-old, can I get Medicare,” and the lawyers that told me, “you know what, you'd have a case” because of women like this, right, and because of other case law relating to transgenders. If you say that you're female, you have to be treated in some states as a female. If I say I'm 65, why am I not 65? Why are you committing ageism against me?

DOOCY: So you're saying we are now in a new world order where you can invent, at will, your own personal history and your own reality?

ABLOW: Who was the first human being in the world to say that transgenderism would pave the way for people to declare their own races? Dr. Keith Ablow. I warned about it. And it's happening and it will happen with age because of guys like Mark Zuckerberg, who have you invent your life on Facebook and then don't understand the concepts of the borders of a country. The country's a real mark, he's part of this too. It's part of the denial of reality.

DOOCY: But there are no countries on the internet he says, right?

ABLOW: Exactly, because you know what? What's he doing, he's saying “invent yourself. Throw up happy pictures. Just tell your story. Mind not that it's not your real story. And don't worry about these jihadists. They're not really out to kill you because you're American, because, you know what, you're not American. You're just one of the pixels on Facebook.” You know what? He's a dangerous guy. This woman is a dangerous woman. Because the bottom line is we want our kids to grow up sane.