I'm a WP user. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy nor do I hate any other company. I have 1 WP and everything else is Apple.

I like Windows Phone. I don't know why what I like should bother anyone. I buy Lumias, Microsoft makes them, I give them my money. I don't know why 3rd parties would get bothered by that, but that's another discussion for another day.

Sometimes, I don't like things Microsoft does.

Sometimes I don't like things Apple does. So us Apple users complain online, sometimes our voices are heard, sometimes not, sometimes people offer solutions or just a virtual shoulder to cry on, lol.

Not with Windows Phone.

There can be no discussion on Windows Phone because:

1. Microsoft is perfect. Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault.

2. Windows Phone is done. End of discussion.

If I complain about something on iOS (the RAM was a big problem, third party keyboard was something we all wanted, f.lux is something I really need) the discussion is about that and only that.

If I complain about WP, you have tons of users of other operating systems coming and just saying "WP is done." It's finished." "This is the sign that it's over." "Why are you even discussing a dead platform?" - the question is, why are you even there on that forum?

This is how it feels like:

"Android apps on WP? What do you think?"

"That's a sign that Windows Phone is dead. Next step is Microsoft Android phone."

"Cancelled 840... Do you like the design or not?"

"Windows Phone is dead."



"No SD card on 930... What's up with that?"

"Windows Phone is dead."



"I don't like the looks of the 950"

"Windows Phone is dead. Satya is sabotaging the 950 to kill it. It's done."



"No Cyan on the 950XL. Is it over for colorful Lumias?"

"It's over for all Lumias. Windows Phone is dead."



It's the same copy-paste answer that's getting more annoying than my aunt makes $400000 a day spamming people on online forums.

On an Android forum, Apple forum, hell, even a Sailfish forum, people would talk.

"Android Apps on Jolla?"

"Ask the devs to upload their app on the Yandex/Amazon store." - discussion on non-Google store.

"No SD card on Nexus phone"

Discussion on cloud storage, data-plans, security-on-SD-cards, SD-card speeds/reliability, streaming music, etc.

No SD card on WP?

"Windows Phone is dead."

Prototype cancelled Nintendo device photos?

Wow, drool, awesome... nostalgia, memory sharing, favorite game listing, etc.



Prototype Windows Phone Device?

Windows Phone is dead.



I don't like the looks on the new HTC One?

Discussion about design, recycling a design for more than 2 generations, the importance of new design vs recognizability, etc.

I don't like the new Lumias?

Windows Phone is dead.

No Cyan Lumia?

No more Lumia. Windows Phone is dead.

Raheem Sterling to City?

Windows Phone is dead.

"Is Jon Snow really dead?"

"No, but Windows Phone surely is."

It's really, really annoying. Some of us want to talk design, SD cards, color, pricing, fuck, some of us want to complain about Windows Phone without the copy-paste "Windows Phone is dead" trolling.

People have been saying "Windows Phone is dead" at every news of Microsoft for years now. I'm not against talking about WP dying, but it's like watching Game of Thrones with someone who doesn't know what will happen next but says "now they'll kill Aria..." "no, not now... but NOW they'll Aria.." "Well, now she's surely dead.. it's certain.." "Okay, I was wrong before, but NOW they'll her" at every scene where she's shown.

There are times and places to talk about the future of Windows Phone, but not every day, every where, at any opportunity. Maybe it's an important topic for you (not pointing my finger at anyone) but there are places to talk about that. Injecting a "Windows Phone is dead" at discussions about the 950s design, carrier exclusivity, a canceled prototype, Joe Belfiore's hair, etc is really annoying: "now it's dead... no NOW it's dead... no, really, guys, NOW it's dead."

This is exactly how it sounds like.

In Game of Thrones, anyone can die at any time, yet no one does this. Discussions on so interesting and deep. No one is predicting death and no one just says "now s/he'll die" during the show or the discussions.

Can we bitch about Microsoft or talk about other things - sometimes a discussion about the L950s design starts another one about which Android phones we like the most design wise or who we hope would make a WP next... (Xperia line for me). People do the same for "which company would you like to make the next Nexus 5/6/7/10" - it's purely hypothetical (Sony Nexus would be awesome)

The "Windows Phone is dead" commenter has no interest in the discussion or where it's headed- s/he just wants to drop that line and walk away.

Can't we criticize Microsoft and have a discussion about the criticism without people just dropping "Windows Phone is dead.. Stop talking about a dead platform."? Is it too much to ask for?

Then on the other side you have the extreme Windows Phone worshipers. There's no discussion there either - it's pure worship.

You criticize something and you instantly get "Fuck you, go buy a lagdroid, you isheep" - that's the extent of the discussion.

Nothing is ever Microsoft's fault. Everything is someone else's fault.

The carriers, Google, Huawei, the media, etc.

Nowadays, even Nokia is at fault.

Microsoft design some really uninspired phones and this is what WindowsCentral has to say:

It should be clear that these new Lumias are carryovers from the Nokia days and not "pure" Microsoft devices.

What do you even say to that? An uninspired phone design released 1.5 years after the acquisition is still blamed on Nokia. It's certainly not Microsoft's fault. If Microsoft released a successful phone last year, it would be all Microsoft, pure Microsoft, but they release one almost two years later and it's still Nokia's fault somehow. That would be accepted if Nokia was known for uninspired design, but looking back at Nokia's design - does this look like anything they would design?

Honestly. Can anyone tell me this looks like Nokia's previous designs? And that this uninspired design is Nokia's fault somehow? How long does it take to design a phone's exterior?

There's no discussion with such kinds of fans. They sincerely believe that kind of stuff - Microsoft is never at fault.

But the places where one can discuss Windows Phone, specific things about it, are fewer and fewer. There is a large number of fanboys who aren't interested in any discussion other than pointing the finger at other companies, and then there's a large number of people just repeating the mantra "Windows Phone is dead" without adding anything to the discussion.

This is not just online, but I've stopped talking IRL about Windows Phone completely because of people (mostly iOS users who don't understand that I have enough Apple products - 3 Macs, 2 iPads, 2 iPods..) I don't suffer from OCD and I don't need all my products to match.

This is something exclusive with phones. I shoot film and when talking about photography, online and offline, no one comes and says "Film is dead."

Everything is a tool to get things done. I don't know why people are obsessed about what tools other people use and I don't know how for some, these tools are icons and relics from a holy being that cannot be criticized.

/rant.