The Democratic Alliance’s Johannesburg mayoral candidate Herman Mashaba is upbeat following the party’s successful municipal election. And given this success, he believes the ANC is left with no choice but to ask President Jacob Zuma to step down.

The Black Like Me founder also feels the DA won’t form any coalition with the ruling ANC, and suggests they may accept the opposition role in Joburg. He speaks to Tim Modise.

Mr Herman Mashaba, thanks very much for talking to me about the Local Government Elections. The outcome has been declared. The ANC made a late surge and they’re now way ahead of the DA. How do you feel about this outcome?