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In short: whenever two attachments that modify adsRecoilReductionLimit are applied to the same weapon, the attachment with the higher alphabetical order takes precedent. In this context, "higher alphabetical order" is with respect to the ATTACHMENTFILE name, not the display name. For example, the ELO does precede the Grip in alphabetical order, as its ATTACHMENTFILE name is "reddot".



For example, if the Grip (grip) and Recon Sight (acog) are applied to the same weapon, the weapon will only receive a 7.5% reduction in ViewKick after the first shot, as "grip" precedes "acog" alphabetically. However, if the Thermal Sight (ir) is attached instead, the gun will receive a 15% reduction in ViewKick after the first shot, as "ir" precedes "grip" alphabetically. Note that this renders the Grip effectively useless whenever it is used in tandem with the Thermal Sight, and that any changes to the CenterSpeed of these optics still take effect as intended.



To summarize, equipping the Varix 3, RECON or Thermal Sight with a Grip renders the Grip useless. With the first two, you lose the updated benefit to recoil reduction; with the Thermal Sight, the Grip simply has no effect. The patch notes released this week indicate that several optical attachments now confer a reduction in recoil to the receiving weapon. Marvel4's spreadsheet is being updated with the cooresponding weapon statistics as I write. However, he has also discovered that the way in which this benefit is produced conflicts with the Grip.In short: whenever two attachments that modify adsRecoilReductionLimit are applied to the same weapon,. In this context, "higher alphabetical order" is with respect to the ATTACHMENTFILE name, not the display name. For example, the ELOprecede the Grip in alphabetical order, as its ATTACHMENTFILE name is "reddot".For example, if the Grip (grip) and Recon Sight (acog) are applied to the same weapon, the weapon will only receive a 7.5% reduction in ViewKick after the first shot, as "grip" precedes "acog" alphabetically. However, if the Thermal Sight (ir) is attached instead, the gun will receive a 15% reduction in ViewKick after the first shot, as "ir" precedes "grip" alphabetically. Note that this renders the Grip effectively useless whenever it is used in tandem with the Thermal Sight, and that any changes to the CenterSpeed of these optics still take effect as intended.To summarize, equipping the Varix 3, RECON or Thermal Sight with a Grip renders the Grip useless. With the first two, you lose the updated benefit to recoil reduction; with the Thermal Sight, the Grip simply has no effect.

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Member Back to Top Post by haoz on The Varix 3 is hilarious. Manowar with rapid fire is transformed into ICR like accuracy. Now with no need for grip, a four attachment gun of Varix 3, rapid fire, quickdraw, and fast mags is superior to red dot, grip, quickdraw, and fast mags. I had my first 10000+ game with it on nuk3town.



I also tried using it on SMGs. The cumbersome scope in of the sight made it a little harder to use, but the VMP and Weevil both became almost recoil less.



It would make for a good attachment on the drakon and on the lmgs I bet.



I don't know what the developers were thinking. Is try to enjoy it before before YouTube popularizes this optic.

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Member Back to Top Post by mannon on I'm still a bit hazy on how all of this will actually come out affecting recoil since the centerspeed stuff still stacks. Is there a simple rule of thumb that would apply to all attachments affecting recoil that we could put in order from worst to best recoil?



Something like below



Worst to Best Recoil:

Rapid Fire

Naked

Rapid Fire + Grip

Grip



Only, of course with all the combinations with sights. And of course sights with identical stats don't need multiple unique entries. Oh the other hand, would such a list even be universally true for all weapons or even all of a class such as AR?



Sorry, I'm just struggling with trying to put this information into practical use without having memorized all the stats. Though I guess it'd be better if I just pulled up the stats and did some research, but I thought it might work out to something fairly simple, if I was lucky. ;p