While some people might think JPEGMAFIA and Clairo are artists that don’t have much in common, you’d be wrong. The two virally famous artists have worked together, and they hung out backstage at Pitchfork Festival this summer for the premiere episode of our new podcast series, Good Convo, hosted by staff writer Michael Penn II. In this episode, Clairo and Peggy get into a conversation about everything and nothing. Topics include: pre-album pressure, fame and criticism, authenticity on the internet, and whether or not Ted Bundy was fuckable.

You can listen to the podcast below via YouTube, Soundcloud, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts (this should become available on Wednesday).