On this week’s episode we dive into a large number of important topics.

First of all, Steve tries to defend the idea of hiring a guide to learn new skills, brush up on old ones, and generally how not to die. We talk about the spread of climbing myths and in an age of instant global information, how climbers still learn bad ideas.

Matt and Anna discuss the International Climbers Fest in Lander, WY; their encounter with Peter Croft, and the @ScarpaNA photo contest controversy. We need your help to hold them accountable!

We keep the streak going with mention of Tom Randall, and finally tell Steve about the Joe Kinder thing, of which Steve is the last climber on Earth to hear about.

Anna ends the show off with a brand new climbing game --- one which we’re sure will be a long-time favorite amongst our listeners.

Finally, a preview of our new podcast based on the hit TV Show, The O.C.

If you have questions for us about climbing, #vanlife, gear.... or what it's like to be pro climbers (we are not pro climbers), whatever, send us a message or email at info@badbetapodcast.com

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