About this Episode

SHOW NOTES

Kevin Heider gives a wonderful exploration as a singer/songwriter of the balance between objective and subjective meanings of songs and movies. He talks how Everclear's "So Much for the Afterglow" deeply moved him as an 8th grader to hear about the terribleness of the songwriter's father. Luke talks about how his view of rap changed after VH1's "Behind the Music" with Ice T.

Luke also mentions making a vinyl album on a mythical Catching Foxes label, which I'M ALL FOR.