[FoRK] Re: Arc's out, Nu vs. newLISP, and a retort to Paul Graham's elitism

On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Jeff Bone wrote: > > God help me, I've been dabbling with Lisp(s) again. > > I'm sure you've heard by now, but Arc is finally out: So I took a look. And, it turns out, Paul Graham's a phony. All Arc is, at present, is a little pseudo-meta-circular interpreter on top of Scheme, MzScheme to be precise. I mean, this thing isn't much more than what a first-year CS student works through in SICP. It's as much a "new and different Lisp" as my own bash setup --- with a bunch of aliases and abbreviations, a homegrown module system, and a bunch of wrappers around common tools to make them behave the way I want --- is "a new and different UNIX shell." Some of the design choices he's made are just bad, too. What a let-down. I mean, really. jb