Mason - As You've Never Seen Her Patrick Collins Sounds Off

2003-09-10 07:41:52

Patrick Collins writes on www.adultdvdtalk.com: I decided to write because someone called me today and told me there was a war of words going on over current, and former directors at Elegant Angel. So, I want to go on the record on a few subjects that seem to be at issue.

First, as far as directors go, All of Elegant Angels directors do have limitations. The first, if I dont get the tingling in my dick by what I see, I let the director know.



At the same time, my sexuality evolves, and I expect it to continue to do so, so I listen to the motive behind the directors reasoning, and if they are passionate about it, I will go with it. However, if it continues to affect me the same way over the next couple of shows, I then tell the director that there are other opportunities out there for them to express their vision, that it just doesnt fit with what I find erotic and unless they feel like they can adjust without compromising their creative integrity, they should explore other opportunities. See, if it were about the money, Id keep any director that had movies that sold bigger numbers. I would be trying to make our boxes and movies look like the hot companies of the moment. For me its more fun if I keep challenging myself. When that is happening Im happy.



For those of you that know something about me historically you know I have never shied away from controversy. The reason I made The Fist-The Whole Fist- and Nothing But the Fist several years back, was because I LOVE girls having real orgasms. I had a lot of girls that were fisting in my movies because they LOVED it, yet for purely legal concerns I was blurring it out, because I wanted the real orgasms and if that was a way they wanted to get off of course Id let them do it, but the lawyers freaked and I got pissed. So, because I really LIKE seeing fisting when the girl is getting off, I decided to make the movie. I reluctantly pulled it after a short time because my lawyers convinced me that it wasnt about doing what I wanted, it was about taking a huge financial risk in attempting to defend it that would involve more than just me. My family and my employees needed to be considered too. I dont want the additional risk. Let the new, younger guys fight those battles. For me I want the challenge of trying to come up with something new and different that I find erotic. This doesnt mean Im not willing to take chances, theyre just chances I feel passionate about. Thats why I mix things up. So, legally if I think something is a problem I pull it. More than that if I see something I out and out find gross, I pull it. That said, I used to feel that way about the Stephanie Swift Gang Bang, and now, I feel differently so its coming out in a comp, and Im still changing!

The great thing here is that you the consumer have better choices at better prices than ever before. If someone doesnt like my approach, they have a lot of choices. I dont change what I find works for me based on critics. I try to do something different. We dont always succeed but its more fun than doing the same old tired format. Its like the difference between buying a car from a dealer and building your own. You might f-ck it up on your own but its your f-ck up!



As for particular directors, Mason is great! High energy, hard working, and one of the brightest persons I have met in the industry. Though we went our separate ways, I wish her only the very best. The same for Jake Malone, again an incredibly talented guy and I know hell do well and am happy to say that.

I hope I have cleared up some things. Please remember, I rarely read the site and its not because I dont care, its because I do and I rarely have time to. I will try to go to the site this week and read your comments though. In closing I want this out. There is no one that has worked for me that I have any ill will towards. Have I been pissed off at a few of them? Sure! Im a pretty passionate guy. 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Irish. At least thats a good enough excuse for now J. But I carry no animosity toward them. Lifes too short! I have a great family, a new distribution deal with Devils Films thatll let me spend more time behind the camera and with my kids and am more contented than Ive ever been. I wish all of you the same.



Jake Malone writes: I am someone who knows Mason well. I worked with her at Elegant Angel, became friends with her, have spent many, many hours dissecting and analyzing porn with her,(e.g. Whats hot, what isn't, what makes this work and not that, what would you have done right there?, etc.) and lived in her house for a time earlier this year. I have known Patrick Collins for almost twenty years. I can state without question that Patrick Collins did NOT "create" Mason. Mason is a creation of her own dark, peverse sexuality. On the contrary, Mason was "creating" a hip, new, edgy slant to the whole Elegant Angel image. I know I was definately infuenced by her in the making of "Slave Dolls", and "Gonzomania",the two videos I did for Elegant Angel. And I think it would be safe to say that William H would not be doing the cool, edgy stuff he is doing today for E.A. were it not for Masons infuence on him. Patrick Collins did indeed try to get Mason to "tone down" her stuff, and because she was commited to being able to shoot what she felt,and because they wanted to pay her less money, and they wanted her to shoot a "soft core" version of all her videos,( can you imagine anything more ludicrous than a "soft core" version of a Mason video?) she went to Platinum X Pictures. One of many glaring strategic errors made in recent years by Patrick, and more recently by Axel. I've never met porn director Mason. I've seen her at a couple of industry events dressed in a burka. At the AVN Expo, she had Julie Night in tow, wearing a dog collar. I guess Mason's reclusive. Mason makes nasty porn films where the women get spat on and choked. Not my cup of tea. I've called her about a dozen times this year trying to secure an interview. I've talked to all the other directors at Platinum X Pictures. A few months ago, Mason had a bad car accident and she's still hurting from it and can no longer engage in rough sex. She can't jog or jump on trampolines either. I'd love to see her do either as she has DD breasts, and stands 5'4" [and here Mason forces me to end the sentence]. She calls me back Wednesday morning, October 22, 2003, and we speak for two hours. At first, she sounds groggy, like I woke her up. Mason: "I've had insomnia since Graham left." Luke: "Who's Graham?" Mason: "My roommate. You haven't read my site?" I surf over to the diary portion of www.insidemason.com: OK, Graham is officially a retard. I love you, Graham, but, you f-cked up all of the orders. You are going to have to service me big time when/if you ever get your ass back to the states!!! If you have not received your order, please email me and let me know! And I will straighten this out!!! Just tell me your name and what you ordered and it will be sent out ASAP! Got an email from my roommate Graham yesterday--had not heard from him in a while. In short, it was great to receive this email. I miss you too, my dear friend. I miss you, too. Dear Mason, Hate to say it, life just isn't the same here in Blighty without ur perpetual grifting for lifts to the liquor store. It is so good to not be bombarded with images of women being demeaned and degraded around every turn, and yet, I find myself quite uncomfortably missing you. Your outrageous screaming and shouting, finickines, jerking off in front of the TV while I eat at the dinner table, ur aggressive, violating sexual advances...and of course those incredible blue eyes. I miss u my beautiful friend. Graham Been cutting back on the booze, decided I had to break the mold and branch out to a kinder, gentler, substance . . . Root Beer. My roommate, Graham, is going home. Sucks. I hope he won't read this, but maybe I hope he will. Uh, Graham, uh, well, uh, ah, forget it. Have this f---ing movie to edit by next week. In a way it's different than anything I've ever done before, but, in a way, I think it's something that's been closer than I ever wanted to admit. I'm getting pretty sick of all of this gossip sh-t. This industry is unfortunately full of a bunch of lying, take no prisoners, sell your soul for whatever it takes kinda f-cks. I guess I was naive to think it would be different than any other industry. It's ironic that the most ethical people I've met in porn are those who are so often portrayed as "sluts" and "whores," morally bankrupt, doing anything for money. 8/16/03 Hey, everybody. My name is Graham, and I am Mason's roommate. Mason was involved today in a horrific car crash. She was badly shaken, but thankfully after numerous tests including X-Rays and an MRI, she was given the all clear. She has asked me to tell you that it will be a few days before she updates the diary. If you want to send her get well wishes, I know she will appreciate it. Thanks. Pssst, she told me a great story about being strapped down in the ambulance, surrounded by Paramedics, with her amble chest on display for all to see (don't tell her I told you!). Mason: "It's just driving me crazy. I haven't written about it at all." Luke: "Is he your boyfriend?" Mason: "It's weird. He emailed me about six months ago during the whole Elegant Angel thing. I don't know if we're going to become boyfriend-girlfriend. It's just weird. I just miss him terribly and it's been hell trying to get him back in the country. He's just a beautiful boy and I love him. He's something very special. He's the only person who's understood my whole sexual philosophy. I don't know if he's ever coming back. I don't know what's going on. I don't like things not being resolved. It's driving me crazy." Luke: "Is William H. your biological brother?" Mason yells: "I hate being so honest with you. I don't want to be so honest with you." Luke: "Don't tell me then. Does he work in the industry?" Mason: "Yes, at Elegant Angel. He's a director and staff photographer." Luke: "Does he like to dress up in women's clothing?" Mason: "Not just women's clothing, everything. He's crazy. I'm drawn to those types." Luke: "I'm sensing that." Mason: "I've tried to have girls come over and do stuff to Graham but he won't do it." Luke: "That doesn't sound straight." Mason: "No. He just really likes me. He's been gone eight weeks." Luke: "Will you have to marry him for him to be able to stay here?" Mason: "We don't know yet." Luke: "Would you like to marry him?" Mason: "Yeah." Luke: "Would you like to have his children?" Mason: "I've never wanted to have kids." Luke: "When you met Graham, did you want to have his babies? Did you want your belly to swell with his seed?" Mason giggles: "You sound an awful lot like him. It's a British thing, isn't it? Full stop, right? Sort it out. All this stuff I've picked up comes out of me at strange moments." Luke: "So Graham was a fan." Mason: "He'd never seen any of them. He'd read a review on rogreviews.com. He wrote me and said I was the most beautiful brilliant thing he'd not seen. He sketched that picture of me on the website. That Elegant Angel thing was a difficult part of my life. We emailed back and forth for a month or so until he finally came out. We've been really close since. This is like therapy." Luke: "I've had years of therapy, so I know how to administer it. So how does it make you feel to have him gone?" Mason: "It's just sad and a bit desperate. I've never had someone care for me so unconditionally and have someone be so honest and real. He's too brilliant. We share the same weird sexual stuff. I've always thought of porn as my therapy to work through all my stuff. Even embracing my sexuality was something I couldn't do until a couple of years ago. "I'm trying to reclaim the words "slut" and "whore." I no longer think of them as something bad." Mason says she has a good relationship with her parents. They divorced when she was seven and her dad moved down the block. She had a happy childhood. "I was privileged and I never had to want for anything. My mom was beautiful. I went to good schools, one of the best private schools in the country. Like Harvard Westlake. I had to wear a uniform." Luke: "What type of uniform?" Mason: "Are you going to investigate?" Luke: "No." Mason: "Yes you will. That's your nature." Mason majored in politics at a small liberal arts college. "I went in conservative and they brainwashed me and turned me into a communist. "Can I ask you something? How come you are kind to some people and not kind to others?" DUC laughs. Mason: "Am I overstepping my interviewee bounds?" Luke: "You can ask me anything. I call it like I see it. People get the coverage they deserve. You don't see Meryl Streep in The National Enquirer because she lives a respectable life. Demi Moore is in the Enquirer all the time because she does bizarre things. If people get high, flake on shoots, get into accidents, transmit STDs, bouncing checks, then they will show up in my column." Mason: "I've been reading you since 1999. I read your thing every day. Then, about a year ago, I found an audio interview you on Stunningcurves.com. I freaked out. You sounded so much more human. The whole tone changed. You were a reporter and then you got so negative. [On the audio] you seemed so human and alive." Luke: "People often like me in person but hate what I write. My writing tone is cold but I am not like that in person." Mason: "Hearing your accent reminds me of talking to Graham." Mason started out in porn in 2000 as an intern, holding the camera and working for $50 a day. Then it went to $100 a day. Then $200. Then she had a strange awakening. She realized she could no longer turn out crap. "Please don't reveal dates. I like to be as anonymous as possible. Soon enough people will figure it all out." Luke: "Why do you want to stay anonymous?" Mason: "I thought it was interesting that all women were just out there and having sex. I thought it would be interesting to juxtapose that with this enigmatic female presence." Luke: "So it's just schtick?" Mason: "Sure, if you want to call it that, but there's more to it. I think it's fun and interesting. I think it's cool that I am just a voice you hear. You can see my hands once in a while." Luke: "How did you come up with the burka?" Mason: "It was Rodney Moore's idea." Luke: "Do your parents know about your career?" Mason: "Oh yeah. I shot a scene in my dad's airplane hanger. It's an intense scene that people talk about. My dad and many of his friends were there to watch." Luke: "Was it weird directing a sex scene with your dad there?" Mason: "No. Yeah. It was funny. It was cool. My mom came down when I shot my second movie and she watched the entire thing with me in the editing bay. She said the women were clearly enjoying themselves, having many orgasms and that I shouldn't worry about it. "I was on my way to law school. I'd taken my LSATs. I've always lived on the margins. I was trying to prove to myself that I needed a straight job to fit in with society. I just realized it wasn't for me. I put myself through school. I used to book escorts. I did market research. I sold newspapers via telemarketing." Luke: "I bet you made more with the escorting." Mason: "With answering the phones, silly. Get that correct. I wish I had been as sexually secure as I am now, because I wouldn't have had a problem with it [escorting]. Of course I thought about it but I wouldn't have felt good. I don't like to do anything that makes me feel bad about myself. I don't want to have guilt or regrets. "I worked booking escorts in my last year in college. That's when I was totally into you. I'd bring my AVNs in. I thought porn was what I was going to do. In between phone calls, I'd plot my whole career. It all started in my little cubicle." Luke: "I would've thought my strong moral influence would've sent you fleeing from the industry." Mason: "What drew me to the industry is that I wanted to save these women. I wanted to help them. I wanted to say, 'It's ok. You're going to have a great shoot because you are on my set and I'm going to take care of you.' Then, once I got into it, I realized it was not like that. The girls I found were in control of things. The girls I work with now, in the hardcore sets I do, the chicks are really together. I don't get when people say that porn girls are abused, on drugs... I don't know anyone I've ever shot with is on drugs." Luke: "Agree or disagree: Most porn stars escort." Mason: "No one that I know. Just when one person I know. Let me look on my tapes. Oh no, I've seen her before. Yeah. They do. Let's see. Yeah, I'd say ten, twenty percent of the girls I've shot. Whoa, now I'm looking at more. I guess they do. I never thought about it. Yeah, they do." Luke: "Do you think escorting is an honorable profession?" Mason: "I don't know why sex as a commodity is wrong." Luke: "One of the top guys in the Internet porn industry threw a fit yesterday because I'd reported his sister worked as an escort. He was ashamed, furious, embarrassed... Once you work as an escort, you are forever tarred. I go to these journalist gatherings, and there's a woman there who worked as a prostitute. And she's marked for life despite her success." Mason: "I don't think escorting is intrinsically wrong. I think the side effects of doing it can be damaging. "I've met so many beautiful people in this industry who made me feel so good about myself. There's a perception that there is no humanity in this industry. You can find it and it is beautiful. It's changed my life. It's hard for me to talk negatively about the industry, except, maybe, some of the people who run it and the bullsh-t that goes on. My immediate circle is filled with beautiful people." Luke: "What do you love about the industry?" Mason: "I love the freedom it affords me. I love that I don't have to work 9-5. I love the talent I've worked with. I only like to shoot people who truly enjoy sex. I do a thorough screening process before I shoot anybody. I'll talk with them. Sometimes I'll meet with them." Luke: "Will you have sex with them?" Mason: "Never. I can't. I revere these chicks. I couldn't do that. That would overstep my boundaries." Luke: "Have you ever had sex with a porn star?" Mason: "Nope." Luke: "Do you have a committed relationship with Graham?" Mason: "Nope. Not yet. I hope. There is one person I've wanted to have sex with. I've had the opportunity and did not do it. He came over and signed my boxcover today and said, 'Mason, the only girl who ever said no.' This guy is the spitting image of what I like in men. "I like aggressive men. I love to be spat on. I love to be slapped. Out of all the things, that is the thing I love the most. I guess it's the endorphins. When it is consensual, it can be an extreme expression of passion." Luke: "Is there anything else you like in a man, aside from being spat on?" Mason: "Honesty." Luke: "Such a lonely word." Mason: "Why?" Luke: "It's a song by Billy Joel." Mason: "Intelligence. Integrity." Luke: "How many men have you been with in your life?" Mason, who's about 28: "Fifteen?" Luke: "How old were you the first time?" Mason: "Fourteen. It was with someone I fell in love with. I planned it that way. I knew I was too young. It just didn't feel right. But he was moving to England to go to boarding school. I wasn't going to see him for at least a year. It was beautiful. I've never had a one-night stand." Luke: "How many black guys have you slept with?" Mason: "Two. Lots of Hispanics. That was my thing for a while." Luke: "How many Jews?" Mason: "One." Luke: "Are most guys happy to slap you and spit on you?" Mason: "No. They don't get it. Only three guys who have gotten it." Luke: "Does that leave you unsatisfied?" Mason: "Of course. Always." Luke: "Yearning for more." Mason: "Of course." Luke: "Desiring." Mason: "Of course." Luke: "In bed, do you boss the guy around?" Mason: "No. I don't like to be dominant. I don't like to be in a relationship with someone unless he can surrender himself to me and I can surrender myself to him." Luke: "Have you ever had sex with a girl?" Mason: "Yeah, with two. The first one I was young. The second one was just to try it and I found it creepy. We were laying there and she was saying, I love you so much. Oh no. I felt like a dude and she was a girl. I said, I'm really sick. I have to go. "I like to watch my boyfriend with girls." Luke: "Oh man." Mason: "If I hadn't lost your respect before, I have now... I've only done that two or three times." Luke: "What did you feel?" Mason: "I felt tensed up, jealous and exhilarated. It's weird. I go through these spells where I either want to be in a totally committed relationship like Romeo and Juliet or I want to be a total whore. I think I'm more comfortable in the Romeo and Juliet thing. As much as I want to be a whore and be decadent, I don't think that's the best thing for me." Luke: "Have you ever been pregnant?" Mason: "Nope." Luke: "So when you take your burka off, what do you look like?" Mason: "Normal. I'm like the Martha Stewart of porn. I drink every once in a while. Every two or three months, I will get drunk. I can drink 12-15 pints." Luke: "You're a lush. How do you feel about being spanked?" Mason: "It's boring. It feels retarded. It's not a turn on. To be slapped? Hell yeah. That's beautiful." Luke: "What are the chances of you doing a sex scene?" Mason: "Never. I've never wanted to, except when I was in college and desperate for money and when I was working for $50 and being bossed around and told to get bananas and this and that. I'd look at the girls and think, 'That is so much less demeaning and so much more respecting oneself.' I wanted to do it but I knew I couldn't handle it." Luke: "Were you ever sexually harassed in the porn industry?" Mason: "No. Never. I've been treated like an equal. Why I paused in answering your question: I had a problem with a talent one time. He wanted to see my tits. It was when I was a grunt, when I was making a $100 for a 14-hour shoot. It hurt me a lot. I was on my twelfth or thirteenth hour or running around, and this guy turned to another guy and said, 'Wow, I wish she'd show us her tits.' It was so humiliating. I felt the lowest I've ever felt in this industry. "Rodney Moore taught me how to shoot, edit and take stills. He never once made me feel uncomfortable. The first time I went to Rodney's apartment, I had my boyfriend wait downstairs for me so I could call him in case I got attacked. I had this fear that the big scary porno producer was going to attack me. He asked me if I ever wanted to get in front of the camera? I said no, never. Then he transitioned to talk about camera work. I worked for him for about two years. "I then learned with Andre Madness. He taught me everything. He was technical, meticulous, business-minded. "Then I met Patrick Collins at Elegant Angel. I had an epiphany in his office. I'd been doing camerawork in the Dr. Fellatio series. Someone had written in to him, 'Who is this voice behind the camera? You have to meet with her.' He's an intimidating guy. He's the Italian, stocky, cigar-smoking take-no-sh-- kinda guy with tattoos all over. I'm sitting in his giant office. "He says, 'I want you to do camerawork but I want you to get in there and suck those cocks and show all the girls how to suck to cock. I sank in my chair. I'd given up law school. It was all crap. I wasn't going to get anywhere. I said, 'Sir, if I am going to do your movies justice, I cannot do that because that is not what I want to do.' He goes, OK, what do you want to do?' I said, 'I want to direct and shoot what I think is hot.' OK, how many lines do you think you can handle?' 'I think I can put out two a month.' OK, you're doing two lines a month.'" Mason has five movies in her oeuvre. Luke: "Have you ever videotaped yourself having sex in your private life?" Mason reprimands me: "You're bored with my stories. We're back into my sex life. I get tears in my eyes when I tell that story." Luke: "Please. Believe me. I have tears in my eyes too." Mason: "The outside world looks at him as a vile piece of sh-- who's going to take advantage of young women and he was like, 'Do what you want to do.' He was always like that. He's such a beautiful man. It's horrible how it ended." Luke: "Why did it end?" Mason: "It was a change in management. You're going to do what you want to do but I don't want to rehash that in public. "Leaving Elegant Angel was one of the lowest points in my life. I'm crying about it because it was so tough. I had felt like I had gotten my life together and I was doing what I wanted to do and it was so hard leaving. It was such a family and Pat was so good to me. "Yeah, I videotaped myself a couple of times. The first time was novel and fun. The second time was aggressive and great and cute. "I thought I was over that. Nine months later, I'm not over it. It was heartbreaking leaving. "Patrick Collins hooked me up with a Mercedes. It was the first time that what I was producing was rewarded. I always give 100% and I've always been taken advantage of. 'Oh, it's somebody we can exploit. A hard worker, let's exploit her.'" Luke: "Do you have a sign on your forehead that says, 'Exploit me!'" Mason: "I don't think so. I've never really been exploited in this business." Luke: "You just told me 15 seconds ago that everybody exploited you until you went to Patrick Collins." Mason: "Not exploiting me. Just not giving me my fair share. I get to the point where I just leave." Luke: "How's it going with Platinum X?" Mason: "I haven't solidified my presence there yet because I'm just hesitant because of how heartbroken I was before. I'm happy to be there because they let me be true to my vision. They've put up with a lot from me in the past few months because of my accident. I'm indebted to them." Luke: "How come your first movie (Mason's Sexual Disorder) only came out last week?" Mason: "I usually take two or three months to do a project. I've only directed five videos." Luke: "I thought you were doing two lines a month for Elegant Angel?" Mason: "That's what they gave and then I realized I didn't want to do that because I didn't want to churn stuff out. I was tired of watching them to do blowjobs on couches in the warehouse. I had to do a spin on it." I take a leak break and return to the phone. Luke: "Sorry. I drank too much water this morning." Mason: "I've never been peed on." Luke: "Good. Don't let them do that to you." Mason: "The way you phrase things. What if it is a reciprocal exchange?" Luke: "I don't want to see your sweet beautiful flower get soiled by them." Mason: "I'm a curvy girl. I have giant boobs. D cup." Luke: "How do you feel about your breasts?" Mason: "I've always hated them because they got in the way of being athletic. I was so conscious growing up. I used to always wear big clothes. Guys never stare at them. I don't wear low-cut stuff. Maybe they just sense my innocence and leave me alone." Luke: "Are they a source of pleasure for you?" Mason: "Yeah." Mason says she can't have rough sex since her car accident. "They can't pull my hair and smack me in the mouth. One of my ribs that connects to my spine...and I might need surgery on my left shoulder. I can't run anymore." Mason likes to talk during sex. "I like them to tell me elaborate stories and fantasies. And talking back and forth, yeah. Sex is like a dance. Back and forth." Luke: "What's the most number of orgasms you've had in one day?" Mason: "Seven or eight." Luke: "What's the last book you read?" Mason: "I read a lot of financial books. I don't read much fiction. My favorite book ever is The Awakening by Kate Chopin. [Nineteenth Century Victorian heroine kills herself.]" Luke: "Are you primarily visual, auditory or kinesthetic? [A Tony Robbins breakdown of human motivation.]" Mason: "Hearing [auditory]. "I'm referencing Graham way too much. I don't want to talk about him. I don't want to think about him." Luke: "What do you want to do with your life?" Mason: "I want to invest all my money in property and retire off of passive income and live by the sea and have a beautiful English garden and two beautiful children. "It's hard. I've never used porn to get money. Should I give in to that? Prioritize? Blend the two?" Luke: "If you're not using it to make money, you're using it to make a statement?" Mason: "Yeah. I'm trying to express something. It's dark, different. People don't get it." Luke: "How important is decor in a blowjob scene?" Mason: "I want to have some imagination. I want to see the chick blowing a guy in an interesting place." Luke: "Do you think the wankers at home appreciate the decor?" Mason: "Yes. The ones that have graduated beyond couch sex. The ones that are soulful and see sex as more than getting off but see it as an experience." Luke: "The soulful masturbators." Mason: "Or the soulful couples at home." Luke: "Do you have sex while watching porn videos?" Mason: "No." Luke: "Has there been a particular video that has sustained you during these last two months of loneliness?" Mason: "Not that I can remember. I masturbated to one of Manuel Ferrara's movies (Anal Expedition)." Luke: "We'll use some product placement in this interview." Mason: "I don't like that. "I've been on the phone so often with Graham [phone sex]..." Luke: "How long have you lived at your current location?" Mason: "I was just thinking about that because I was looking at my dog on my beautiful white couch. Get off!" Luke: "Right now? It'd be a violation of my journalistic ethics for me to get off right now. When I entered this industry, I had to sign a form that I would not do that." Mason: "So you've never been with a porn chick?" Silence. Mason: "Yes, you have. I can hear it." Luke: "Only for journalistic reasons. I wanted to flesh out the portrait. I wanted to penetrate the story. I've never solicited it but if it came to me and I was vulnerable... I try to get behind the music for my readers. Other than that, I've made a solemn pledge to poverty, chastity and humility." Mason: "Oooh, that's sexy." We talk about movies for ten minutes. Mason doesn't see many. "I'm a very boring person." Luke: "It's good that you don't use profanity." Mason: "Yes I do." Luke: "Not in our conversation. I don't want them to do that to you." Mason: "I've got a sailor's mouth." Luke: "I'm glad I haven't heard it. Giving fellatio can lead to profanity." Mason: "Do you think sex is dirty?" Luke: "Only when it's good, to quote Woody Allen. No, seriously, I think all sex outside of marriage is unholy." Mason: "I think it is good that people aspire to things beyond than themselves. I'm like that with a lot of things in my life, just not with sex. I'm like that with vegetarianism [since 1993] and honor." Luke: "Do you still have your high school uniforms?" Mason: "No. I couldn't fit in them." Luke: "I'd like to see you jogging." Mason: "I have to wear two bras and this big contraption with ten hooks." Luke: "I'd like to see you on a trampoline." Mason: "I haven't been on one of those since I got boobs [sixth grade]." Luke: "Have you ever been with two guys at once?" Mason: "Never. I'd like to but I'm germ phobic. "I'm blindly trusting you. I don't know if this is your modus operandi." Luke: "To take advantage of innocent young girls, suck them in, get them to trust me." Mason: "Exactly." Luke: "And then put them on their back and screw them through my website." Mason: "Yeah. But I got a sense from the couple of messages that you left me that you are a good guy. I'll find out. It might be a rude awakening. "There are some things that I have to be publicly minded about and I know I'm not doing that now with you." Luke: "I'll send you a transcript so you can see it and then we can talk about what bits you want modified and what bits you want accentuated and what bits you want dressed up and what bits you want undressed..." Mason: "Did you get an impression of me prior to this interview?" Luke: "Yes. I thought you were one crazy chick." Mason: "Based on what?" Luke: "The type of movies that you make." Mason: "What else?" Luke: "That you go around like a Muslim girl. Just the things I read about you. You sounded twisted. Have you ever tried to blow yourself up on a porn set?" Mason: "And now?" Luke: "You seem completely normal. I'm glad you don't use gratuitous profanity and you've never let them pull a train on you. "No, I really like you. You can tell that. I wouldn't talk to you this long if I didn't. It's been two hours." Mason: "How old are you?" Luke: "I'm 37. I'm old enough to be your father." Mason: "I thought you were 32." Luke: "Porn has aged me. My biological age is 32 but I tell people 37 because of the ravages of porn." Mason: "Every porn year is like seven regular years." Luke: "I was on TV last week and I looked old and debauched." Mason: "No, you looked just like that picture on Stunningcurves with your big gun. Is that a .44? Or a magnum? It's a huge." Luke: "I do pack a big..." Mason: "How tall are you?" Luke: "I'm 6, 175 pounds." Mason: "You are a strapping man. I love height." Luke: "What's the smallest penis you've ever had inside of you?" Mason: "Three inches. He was a beautiful man... I adjusted for 18-months. I could live with it." Luke: "Could you have an orgasm with it?" Mason: "Yes, I could orgasm with it, so long as touched myself as is the case with any other man." Luke: "Can you have an orgasm through regular sex only?" Mason: "No." Luke: "You have to get digital stimulation?" Mason: "Yeah. It's funny though. Obviously I can do it in my dreams. I'll have wet dreams. I'm trying to get to that point. It'd have to be with someone I'm very comfortable with. "How many partners have you had?" Luke: "40." Mason: "You kidding? Wow, that's a lot. When did you start?" Luke: "Not until I was 21." Mason: "That's a lot. That's a turnoff. A guy who's been with a lot of girls is a turnoff. I think it's more of a jealousy thing. I don't know." Luke: "You're right. It is too many. I've slowed down." Mason: "I've only been with three guys in the past five years." Luke: "Have you ever been married?" Mason: "I was married to a guy from El Salvador. I was very in love with him. It lasted three years [1993-96]. He was jealous and abusive. "I'm the last person who would ever cheat on anybody. I hate being questioned when I'm doing the right thing." Luke: "He hit you?" Mason: "Oh yeah. And not in a good way. He threw a television at my back." Luke: "Do you have to have a TV on your back to get off?" Mason: "That's cute. Please don't turn me into a cliche. "I don't know why I like rough sex. I wasn't molested. I remember tying myself up in my bed when I was five years old, wanting the guys from Chips to have their way with me." Luke: "You should read the novels of Ayn Rand. All the heroines get raped by the men they love and they like it." Mason: "Wow. I have to read that. Very interesting." Luke: "I better let you go or people will start talking about us." 1/17/05 Jewel DeNyle posts on ADT: "Riot Slut's 2 is comming out and Mason comes and go's one minute she want's to shoot every month the next she doesn't turn in a movie for six months it's very hard on me to rely on her. But I love her work and as of now she's not shooting. In fact I don't know what she plans to do." See Delilah Strong entry for a controversy about Mason.