Once upon a time, an interview with Tyler, the Creator wasn’t really an interview. It was more like free jazz—but replace the instrumentation with fart jokes, Tyler’s sinister laugh, and the word sick. We love Tyler's laugh. And his jokes. And especially his music. (We really love the music). But what’s cool is the very specific way Tyler has grown up. He is now capable of a full-on adult conversation about his opinions, experiences, and the projects he’s working on—but the projects are still the same fantastical kid stuff. There’s the fashion show he threw for Golf Wang, his line of colorful grandpa clothes; there’s his sprawling carnival-slash-music-festival called Camp Flog Gnaw; he’s working on a line of sneakers called Golf Le Fleur that he wants to put on professional Go-Kart Racers… Welcome to adulthood, Tyler. But, please, never grow up.

What’s going on, man? How are you?

Uh… I’m OK. My Twitter got hacked last night. It’s sus. I feel like I was fucked in the club and didn’t want it. I’m not hyped right now. But I’m putting some finishing touches on this look book right now. So there’s that.

I thought the hacking was over, then I saw you just tweeted 10 minutes ago that you had lost a bunch of followers. Is he still in your account wreaking havoc?

They’ve been on my account since last night. I guess it’s some weird aftermath thing. I don’t know what happened but he made everyone just unfollow me. It’s kind of funny, but it also sucks.

Golf Wang Fall-Winter 2016, featuring Tyler's Golf Le Fleur sneakers.

Those followers will come back, bro. Trust.

Yeah, I mean, whatever. It’s just a fucking Twitter. Like, I’m still going to live my life.

You once said that everyone dresses the same. Do you think that that’s gotten better as of late?

Not really. I mean, everyone’s in, like, what? A torn tee of some band they don’t like. Some ripped jeans. A dad hat. Everyone is wearing dumb tour tees right now. That shit is weird. You don’t even like that band. Why are you wearing that?

The Golf Le Fleur sneakers you designed were the standout from your runway show. When are those coming out?

Making a shoe isn’t easy. I’m still putting finishing touches on it and trying to make sure it’s the perfect shoe so I don’t have to worry about shit later. So I can just focus on cool colorways and cool shit to do around it. So putting finishing touches on it. It’s coming soon. They’re fucking sick and I’m really hyped. I hope that it’s successful so I can sponsor people that I think are cool, whether I’m sponsoring just the skate kids that I see. Or like artists that I’m a fan of. Or racers. There’s a whole subculture of kids who ride go-karts, for real. Sponsoring random shit like that that, I’m into. Everyone goes for the basketball players and football players and stuff.