Derrida Profile Joined March 2011 2641 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-20 12:18:40 #2 Nicely done, this was needed. Do we have confirmation if players can participate in multiple arena qualifiers if they fail to qualify? If so, I think Winter Arena is going to be stacked by Koreans. #1 Grubby Fan.

Omsomsoms Profile Joined September 2011 Croatia 191 Posts #3 Thanks for this, I was pretty confused skimming the MLG thread x_x

robhoward Profile Joined February 2011 79 Posts #4 On January 20 2012 21:15 Derrida wrote:

Nicely done, this was needed. Do we have confirmation if people can participate in multiple arena qualifiers? If so, I think Winter Arena is going to be stacked by Koreans.



You can only participate in one, and that must be where your MLG provided flight leaves from, or you just get a $400 stipend. You can only participate in one, and that must be where your MLG provided flight leaves from, or you just get a $400 stipend.

Trunkers Profile Joined September 2011 Belgium 17 Posts #5 My understanding is that each player can only participate in a single region of his/her choice. However, if you qualify, you have to fly from that region. So if Korean players wanted to qualify in NA, they would have to pay their own way to California or whatever and get an MLG flight from there. So, it would be a calculated risk, but possibly worth it.



The whole flight rule might as well be called "The Huk Rule", as MLG wanted him in the NA bracket for the MLG Global Invitational, but he wanted to play in the Korean bracket. In the end, he didn't participate at all. This rule allows players the flexibility to choose what's best for them.

Talin Profile Blog Joined September 2010 Montenegro 9071 Posts #6 So basically, it's an invitational tournament now? If the "139 invited participants" are the only ones that can compete in the online qualifiers.



Apart from the open bracket at Championship event, there's no way through for non-invited players. And one live-event open bracket per live event is hardly enough for less accomplished players to really commit themselves. On the other hand, it's very possible to see the actual winner come straight through the open bracket once again, if a real top player decides to only play the Championship.

Trunkers Profile Joined September 2011 Belgium 17 Posts #7 On January 20 2012 21:21 Talin wrote:

So basically, it's an invitational tournament now? If the "139 invited participants" are the only ones that can compete in the online qualifiers.



Apart from the open bracket at Championship event, there's no way through for non-invited players. And one live-event open bracket per live event is hardly enough for less accomplished players to really commit themselves. On the other hand, it's very possible to see the actual winner come straight through the open bracket once again, if a real top player decides to only play the Championship.



The main effects of the new system are twofold:



1) MLG hosts much more content (for cheaper) and has more captive eyeballs on their site for more weeks a year. Arenas and online qualifiers will cost a fraction of the price of a live event to produce.



2) We don't have a stagnant Top 16 like the 2011 season, were poorly performing players simply retained their seed via rank points. The Open Bracket largely unchanged from last year, so for less accomplished players the picture hasn't changed much.



HOWEVER



What is yet to be described is the method of creating the 139 Online Qualifier player list. Could be MLG rank points from 2011, could be top performers from other tournaments, TLPD ranking, whatever. It could just be a list they felt looked right. Perhaps there will in the future be ways for newer players to enter the online qualifiers. The main effects of the new system are twofold:1) MLG hosts much more content (for cheaper) and has more captive eyeballs on their site for more weeks a year. Arenas and online qualifiers will cost a fraction of the price of a live event to produce.2) We don't have a stagnant Top 16 like the 2011 season, were poorly performing players simply retained their seed via rank points. The Open Bracket largely unchanged from last year, so for less accomplished players the picture hasn't changed much.HOWEVERWhat is yet to be described is the method of creating the 139 Online Qualifier player list. Could be MLG rank points from 2011, could be top performers from other tournaments, TLPD ranking, whatever. It could just be a list they felt looked right. Perhaps there will in the future be ways for newer players to enter the online qualifiers.

Angelbelow Profile Joined September 2010 United States 3727 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-20 12:31:17 #8 On January 20 2012 21:21 Talin wrote:

So basically, it's an invitational tournament now? If the "139 invited participants" are the only ones that can compete in the online qualifiers.



Apart from the open bracket at Championship event, there's no way through for non-invited players. And one live-event open bracket per live event is hardly enough for less accomplished players to really commit themselves. On the other hand, it's very possible to see the actual winner come straight through the open bracket once again, if a real top player decides to only play the Championship.



Yeah, seems that way. The open bracket is now tougher than ever considering pool play is "doubled." What I mean is that they now have to get by the bottom 16 from the arenas before they can even play the top 16.



We need some more details regarding the invitational system.. Yeah, seems that way. The open bracket is now tougher than ever considering pool play is "doubled." What I mean is that they now have to get by the bottom 16 from the arenas before they can even play the top 16.We need some more details regarding the invitational system.. You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth

Mentalizor Profile Joined January 2011 Denmark 1594 Posts #9 This makes sence and thanks for the illustration.



I still don't agree with the season starting so late and with so much online (not live) tournament. (yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"

Trunkers Profile Joined September 2011 Belgium 17 Posts #10 On January 20 2012 21:30 Angelbelow wrote:

Yeah, seems that way. The open bracket is now tougher than ever considering pool play is "doubled." What I mean is that they now have to get by the bottom 16 from the arenas before they can even play the top 16.



We need some more details regarding the invitational system..



Yes, extremely tough. This is why the open bracket is shaped as a flask. Yes, extremely tough. This is why the open bracket is shaped as a flask.

MrSexington Profile Blog Joined July 2010 United States 1767 Posts #11 Where the remaining 8 white blocks under "Pool Play" come from?

NaldoR Profile Joined November 2010 Singapore 2196 Posts #12 thanks for the diagram. Helps loads.

I also love the fact that they can choose the server they play in and how MLG decides who they pay for the flight.

Trunkers Profile Joined September 2011 Belgium 17 Posts #13 On January 20 2012 21:36 MrSexington wrote:

Where the remaining 8 white blocks under "Pool Play" come from?



These are people advancing undefeated from the Open Bracket. I am assuming it will be 8 spots (for a total of 24, 6 per pool). But it's possible they'll choose to do 20 total spots like they did for Halo and the other titles last season. That is yet to be determined. These are people advancing undefeated from the Open Bracket. I am assuming it will be 8 spots (for a total of 24, 6 per pool). But it's possible they'll choose to do 20 total spots like they did for Halo and the other titles last season. That is yet to be determined.

MrSexington Profile Blog Joined July 2010 United States 1767 Posts #14 On January 20 2012 21:37 Trunkers wrote:

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On January 20 2012 21:36 MrSexington wrote:

Where the remaining 8 white blocks under "Pool Play" come from?



These are people advancing undefeated from the Open Bracket. I am assuming it will be 8 spots (for a total of 24, 6 per pool). But it's possible they'll choose to do 20 total spots like they did for Halo and the other titles last season. That is yet to be determined. These are people advancing undefeated from the Open Bracket. I am assuming it will be 8 spots (for a total of 24, 6 per pool). But it's possible they'll choose to do 20 total spots like they did for Halo and the other titles last season. That is yet to be determined.



Oh, so...



The open bracket is played before pool play? (Unlike the parallel play of both of them into a single championship bracket.)



So the bottom 16 of arena play mix it up with the people who eventually end up with the top 16, only to have to fight their way from Round 5 forward of the open bracket, just to be rewarded with a rematch with the 16 guys? Oh, so...The open bracket is played before pool play? (Unlike the parallel play of both of them into a single championship bracket.)So the bottom 16 of arena play mix it up with the people who eventually end up with the top 16, only to have to fight their way from Round 5 forward of the open bracket, just to be rewarded with a rematch with the 16 guys?

Sermokala Profile Blog Joined November 2010 United States 10375 Posts #15 I thought it was very straightforward and pretty simple. I could see why reddit would get confused by it but iem has a far more confusing system for their events. I did not see before that the first "championship" would be held in Columbus. that's going to be pretty cool. A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752

JustPassingBy Profile Blog Joined January 2011 10619 Posts #16 With that system, I am looking forward to the next Winter already, even though the current Winter hasn't passed yet!

KawaiiRice Profile Blog Joined May 2007 United States 2908 Posts #17 I think the smart thing for koreans to do is have a discussion on which 24 players they want to get through MLG, and then split all of them up to take all the slots in the other qualifiers.

o: korean domination lolol @KawaiiRiceLighT

Elurie Profile Blog Joined May 2011 1261 Posts #18 On January 20 2012 21:46 KawaiiRice wrote:

I think the smart thing for koreans to do is have a discussion on which 24 players they want to get through MLG, and then split all of them up to take all the slots in the other qualifiers.

o: korean domination lolol



and inc. drama!



and inc. drama!

Sermokala Profile Blog Joined November 2010 United States 10375 Posts #19 I think the combination of having the korean pride of representing their country/region + the fact that they only get a free trip if they participate in the korean one will mean that nothing special will happen. maybe some will bleed over like mc and the liquid players but few others. A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752

zaii Profile Joined October 2010 Guam 2502 Posts #20



Awesome job on the graph, also MLG had there own graphic, But it seems not many ppl saw it.

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