From: aschedjidoi

2010-06-13 08:41 am (UTC)

If they have a "sexy theme", does that mean they have male baristas in swim trunks also?

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From: kanimaki

2010-06-13 09:33 am (UTC)

Same goes for Hooters, right? I'm not entirely sure about this since the nearest Hooters branch from me is in Singapore, but does Hooters have sexy males walking around as waiters too?

From: desertum_rosa

2010-06-13 10:43 am (UTC)

The owner actually did a publicity stunt in which he dressed in the dress code in order to prove that men shouldn't work there. And he made a point to be as hairy as possible.



I mention the hair because I'm sure a fit guy who looked hairless, just like they want the girls to appear, wouldn't look to shabby in the outfits.

From: zhiva_the_mage

2010-06-13 11:32 am (UTC)

"If your goods are good, you don't need naked bodies to sell them".

From: captainlard

2010-06-13 11:34 am (UTC)

still, way to go Councilwoman... nice stirring up immediate controversy by playing the rape card. it's clever PR, but i hate her for it- why are papers to easy to manipulate

From: sound0fwings

2010-06-13 12:08 pm (UTC)

Unfortunately, we have a lot of these sort of coffee stands around here. Several of them have been linked to prostitution. Not terribly surprising. Once you get poor, brainwashed, young girls (who often times don't have the life experience and confidence and self-respect to see that they're being manipulated and used) into tiny skimpy bikinis or even lingerie... it's not much of a leap for them to being willing to do... well... "favors"... for big tips. =(



What's worse, is I took the time to complain and do some asking around and found out that this whole thing may very well be in violation of OSHA standards or something like that. [sigh] But no one will shut them down. New stands pop up every few months. It makes me want to puke. It makes me want to commit vandalism, frankly. But mostly it makes me want to hand these poor girls some clothes and take them to the nearest meeting of a group of Pagan Socialist feminists to get their heads swung back in the other direction so maybe they'll realize that they're contributing to the system of objectification that keeps them oppressed. [sigh]



Until society stops treating these things as isolated incidences, isolated little problems we'll never get anywhere. It's not isolated. The same hatred and fear of women and of women's bodies and women's power that lurks behind the bait that lures these girls into working in these ridiculous establishments is the same hatred and fear behind the use of rape as a weapon and behind the systematic elimination of girl babies. Misogyny is misogyny and hemming and hawing over the degree or shade or level of misogyny doesn't make it any less abhorrent.

From: captainlard

2010-06-13 01:21 pm (UTC)

pagan socialist feminism groups don't sound like the right way to get someone to think 'normally'.



additioanlly, It's a little belittling of a lot of comments here, not just you, suggesting that women appear to have no choice in the matter like they are rounded up at beaches and thrown into a starbucks-alike. they choose to work there and to suggest that if you work in a topless bar you probably dont have much confidence of life experience is quite rude. Theres no reason these women aren't perfectly intelligent women who just want to make money and it's either plain coffee shop wages or coffee shop wages and a slightly large tip; I'm sure plenty of confident people sign up, if anything these employees are more confident

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From: curiositymelon

2010-06-13 04:24 pm (UTC)

Dear crap I'm watching that movie right now. :(

From: alasbabylon

2010-06-13 04:15 pm (UTC)

aww, hooters for the caffeine crowd. ew.



but seriously yo, making hot coffee in bikinis, hello health code violation

From: seth_unholy

2010-06-13 05:38 pm (UTC)

This is almost universally a bad idea.



I can't really think of any world in which "HEY! You know what would be a great idea? Let's get a bunch of girls to wear skimpy bikinis for customers to ogle, and then we'll also have them handle boiling hot coffee. At the same time! Yeah!" sounds like a stellar plan.

From: maynardsong

2010-06-13 09:47 pm (UTC)

Well, at least the first woman to burn herself will have grounds to sue and that can shut the company down?

From: agatha_southeil

2010-06-13 07:53 pm (UTC)

This is awful, and as you said, unsafe and unhygienic. What boggles my mind is the women who are willing to work there. Baristas don't make a lot of money, so I'm wondering why they would be willing to do that. At least at Starbucks or wherever you don't have to show your tits to make a little over the minimum wage.

From: peefy

2010-06-13 08:49 pm (UTC)

The only answer I can possibly think of is that the tips and pay mean they're earning more than they would be working at McDonalds or somewhere similar. The economy sucks right now, so any job that offers even a little bit above minimum wage would look good, especially to a girl working one of her first jobs who may have never really learned how detrimental this kind of work could be to her and why.

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From: maynardsong

2010-06-13 09:47 pm (UTC)

Stupid Councilwoman. It's not the *bikini* per se that puts these women at risk. It's the blatant objectification. Otherwise, you're just as much at risk of rape in a full on niqab as you are completely nude. Fucking rape myths, fuck this shit.

From: mamasboo

2010-06-13 10:15 pm (UTC)

But studies have also shown that men react differently to women who are dressed scantily. It's a society thing of course but it's best to understand that when you dress (or don't dress) scantily you're going to draw attention both wanted and unwanted. You can't just say that because you *should* be allowed to do what you want that you can. I want to be able to leave my windows and doors unlocked and not have anyone steal my stuff, but that's not the world we live in.

From: mamasboo

2010-06-13 10:16 pm (UTC)

When you said Perky Cups I thought the coffee came in breast shaped mugs. Maybe that would be better than exploiting females. And why oh why do men have to be constantly aroused, anyway?

From: curiositymelon

2010-06-14 02:33 am (UTC)

The cups there are said to come in "A, B, C, and D sizes" in addition to their scantily clad waitresses.



And, forgive me but it doesn't translate well via the internet, but I hope the comment about men being constantly aroused was a joke. :')



If so then I must admit it went flying WAY over my head.

From: sexyhorny

2010-06-14 05:55 am (UTC)

I hate the idea of the coffee shop like this :( I would never go to one of these too, simply because I would feel awkward seeing girls in bikinis making my coffee and it's sexist because it's not just the coffee that they are selling. I prefer to see clothed people everywhere except the beach. I'm slightly shy so yeah.



People could always refuse to work there, it's a shame some Baristas would agree for such work. Oh well it's their problem I guess.

From: christystewart

2010-06-15 03:31 am (UTC)

There was a coffee shop around here that was this small drive-thru number and it only had women in bikinis working there and the sexual harrassment got intensly bad.



I have no point.



I am just so sad...