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Post by Musashi » 19 Oct 2011, 14:23

glenn239 wrote: You can't reject a DOW - they will attack anyway. Lenin tried that nonsense with the Germans in 1918 with his no war, no peace catchphrase, then discovered that the German army's artillery wasn't firing slogans.

AVV wrote: Hello! Musashi wrote: Yes, the Polish light cruiser ORP Dragon (ex-HMS Dragon). And what about Polish submarines? They could have participated in actions against Japanese shipping.



Best regards, Aleks Hello!And what about Polish submarines? They could have participated in actions against Japanese shipping.Best regards, Aleks

Polska wypowiedziała wojnę Japonii, co — jak widać z perspektywy czasu — nie miało ani większego uzasadnienia, ani przede wszystkim sensu politycznego. Cóż może dać Polsce wypowiedzenie wojny Japonii?

Rząd nasz wypowiadając wojnę […] wypowiedział ją także Japonii. Ale na tym powinien być koniec. Wystarczyłoby następnie tylko wzorować się na polityce brytyjskiej, która nie przedsięwzięła niczego dotąd przeciwko Rosji zalewającej nasz kraj. Ponieważ Rosja nie zagraża bezpośrednio Wielkiej Brytanii, Brytyjczycy nie uważali jej za wroga. W jakim więc sensie mogła Japonia grozić nam? W czasie, kiedy rzesze Polaków uchodźców z „przyjacielskiej” Rosji, znajdowały przytułek, opiekę i darmo chleb u „wrogiej” Japonii, po tej stronie rząd nasz wypowiadał jej wojnę.

But it worked perfectly well with Poland and Japan. Neither side was hostile and no shots were fired.They could have participated in actions against Aliens from Alpha Centauri but these Aliens have never been hostile towards Poland. Neither the Japanese were so Polish sailors did not like that idea at all. AFAIK just ORP Dragon was planned to be despatched.Let's quote Józef Beck, the former Polish Foreign Minister:"Poland declared war on Japan, what, as it is visible from the time perspective, did not have any justification or political sense, before all. What can Poland achieve by declaring war on Japan?"From memoirs of Wincenty Cygan, a Polish sailor on ORP "Dragon":Our Government, declaring war [on Axis countries], declared it also on Japan. But we should refrain from any further actions. It would be sufficient to look up to the British policy, that had not undertaken any steps against Russia that is flooding our country. As Russia is not a direct threat to the UK, the Britons did not consider it an enemy. So how could Japan be a threat to us? When thousands of Polish refugees, that fled from a "friendly" Russia, were finding a shelter, care and free food in "hostile" Japan, our Government declared war on it."Source: http://ciekawostkihistoryczne.pl/2011/0 ... -xx-wieku/ (in Polish).