Essentially a rapper can get credit for having a huge song, but can't replicate that success without the producer. Niggas be losing the whole sight of making songs. Music ain't about what something sounds like. Music is really just feelings, bro. Feelings transmitted into the microphone. Feeling is what sells shit. Adele, she makes music that touches your feelings. Everybody don't feel like killing people all day, that's why this rap shit ain't selling, bro. Everybody ain't got that feeling, man. Give somebody some regular emotions. Everybody ain't no goddamn killers. Even "Tuesday," that's a feelings record, it gives you the feeling of going up and having a good time.

There's so many home studios in Atlanta. People are recording 24/7. We did "Tuesday" at Metro's house. We didn't put no mix on it. We had the engineer come through, but we didn't have all the shit they had. We just had a regular computer, recorded it in a open room. The shit y'all hearing came straight from Metro house. The "Molly" record we recorded at my house with nothing on it. Even that "OG Bobby Johnson" song—straight from my house.

Is it worth the time to mix something these days? Do people hear the difference? I'm not gonna say they don't hear the difference, but everybody hears things differently, bro. That honk outside that you just heard? I probably heard that in a different way than you did, in a different frequency. So this whole "going by the book" shit, getting shit matched up, who says that is the right way? Who decided that was the right way to listen to some shit? That's not the right way in my eyes. With music, it's so much freedom in that shit. It's no rules to this. You could put out a wack sounding song, but it might sound great to you,and that's all that matters. Even Spooky Black shit, it's not the best recording, but that fits him. The sound or the mix might fit his situation. People feel a certain way when they hear you a certain way. Nigga might hear you sounding all gritty, nigga might feel that shit, like, "I know where this came from." You go into them big studios and… I don't fuck with them shits, bro.

What's next? I want to show people all the shit that I can do, I feel like I'm so boxed in. I want to show people like "this ain't it." Once I show somebody the other side of me they'll respect it on a different level. Dudes like a Hit-Boy, I feel like I could get that same level of respect, or more respect.

I feel like he did a similar thing, stepping out on his own getting a crew and making his own little world. But let's be real though, we haven't heard no hits from him.

That's true, but he could be somewhere making beats for Ye all day, and nobody would know him. Now this is what I don't understand, because you got all the outlets, you got the artists, you got the name, why don't the people you choosing have major hits? You not breaking artists. I've been doing that shit subconsciously for the past two years, out of my house, with no money involved. Where's my fucking respect for that shit? All these other people getting glorified for what I see as a easy win. I fuck with Khaled, but you don't think you're gonna win with a song with Drake, Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne, all on the same track? That's an automatic win my nigga. Go get somebody that don't nobody know, and make that shit win. I'm not saying they ain't done it, but I haven't seen it. If you gave me all three of them on one song, I have no choice but to win. People go in there with winning combinations. I feel like people ain't winning organically.

People who don't follow closely might lump all the Atlanta producers together. Like there's no difference between a Sonny and a Metro and a Spinz, from a distance. If people think like that, it's fucked up. Because all these people come and grab artists off from us. We the risk takers, we ensuring that this shit gon' work, and when the shit work that's when everybody else want to step in. And people be slick, contacting us but not putting that out to the public. We the creative people, we are the creativity in this shit but they not giving us credit. People reach out to us to get our sauce. People can't make the drums sound how we do. They can't do what we do. But they won't put it out there. I feel like they don't want us to get the shine.

You've had major artists that everybody knows reach out to you? Something like that, but cases happen all the time. They try to do it subconsciously, or in a way that you don't notice. If somebody major calls you and asks you how you did this, they're thinking that you're going to be starstruck and just give all your skills up. It probably would've been like that two or three years ago. But now, if you want to know—fly me out. We'll show you how to do this.