//Teryak's resignation and Kronks' removal

RAWRcats

Title says it all. I'll be short and give you a few reasons why.

There's no point in me being a moderator just for the title and a badge I can turn on. There's no point in having those if I don't have the authority to do a damn thing.

Most of the moderation team is inactive, with the exception of Kronkleberry and DoubleF. Even then, Kronkle's doing 90% of the work involved in keeping this subreddit clean and troll-free.

Moderation privileges were rescinded almost directly after we handled one of the largest raids by another subreddit or group of people with the intent to troll or harass our subscribers. This feels like a slap in the face for something that caused me a lot of stress at the time while I'm trying to take care of school things.

Toeknee, I'm happy that you're dating Jenna_Kitten, it's cool, whatever. But the rest of the moderators earned their spots on this team, whether it be by coming up with ways to improve the subreddit, contributing CSS code, or having some valuable skill that we could use to generally make the quality of life for our subscribers better. Inviting your girlfriend as a moderator, in my eyes, shows favoritism and poor leadership, and forced me to question your judgement as a moderator.

What it comes down to is this: I've been helping to moderate this subreddit since we were at 75 users. I have used my main account this entire time, putting my reputation on this website in jeopardy; I don't entertain any illusions about how most people view what we do. I have advertised in other subreddits, dealt with raids on the subreddit (allmost entirely by myself, I might add) and generally pushed to publicize, improve, and otherwise make this subreddit a better place. But recent changes and decisions, made by you, have left me where I cannot do, or do not feel comfortable doing, the actions that I feel helped to grow this subreddit into what it is today. So this is my resignation. Have fun.

Kronkleberry

I must agree with /u/RAWRcats [+6] on all points. I feel that this has become a chore, and it's not what I came to do. I'm not sure I can stand these conditions for much longer, for the same reasons. If there isn't any changes soon, I too will resign as a moderator.

toeknee0126

First of all, jenna_kitten is a mod because she offered a service to the subreddit. She offered to help keep it clean (y'know, since you were having so much trouble doing it on your own during raids?) You don't see that because she said it to my face with her mouth. That was BEFORE we started dating. I didn't even want reddit to know we had gotten together but apparently jenna went and made a whole big deal about it.

Second, the only thing you shouldn't have permission to do is ban users. You can do everything else (and if you can't that's my honest mistake and let me go fix it right now). The reason for that is because I want to have the final say when users are banned. That's all. You can still report and spam and remove all the fuck you want.

Most of the mod team is inactive because they have a skill such as CSS editing that we occasionally need. As soon as i finish writing this i'll go and trim the list of mods down, if it makes you happy.

I'm sorry i haven't been able to deal with most of the shit that goes on in here. That's what happens when you 1) have a busy life and 2) create something you didn't expect to take off the way it did.

Finally, I'm sorry that i can't make everything perfect. I didn't even expect this subreddit to reach 1,000 subscribers. if you guys would have fucking said something before you went and decided to quit being a mod i would have fixed all these things a long time ago. I guess i assumed you already knew that it was a thankless job when you decided you wanted to be a mod, but obviously not.

Kronkleberry

That's the thing, I'm trying to work with you, not work alone.

The amount of lesser active mods here is staggering. I see subs with 100,000 people that have one, maybe two mods, and neither are bots. We have 2,300 people, and 5 mods now. The lack of communication between all of us is staggering. RAWRcats, DoubleF, and I at least run into each other on occasion in the IRC. If there had been more discussion before adding jenna_kitten as a mod, I'm not sure that it would be as big an issue, but giving her full mod privledges, and taking it from RAWRcats and I, does feel like a veritable slap in the face. The fact that I've not seen her or heard from her on the sub in easily a month compounds to this issue.

I joined as a mod not for thanks or recognition. I've moderated before in other forms, I know what it entails. It's the lack of support between the mods that makes it troublesome. I understand that life gets in the way sometimes, hell, we've all been there. Telling us that, 'Hey, I'm going to be in and out for the next month while I get my life straightened out,' goes a long ways.

And I understand that the sub has grown much faster than expected. It's doubled in size since I've been here. I can see how that could be shocking, and unexpected. Trying to keep it all to yourself isn't gonna make it easier for anyone, especially yourself. One of my issues is that you step on me when I make moderation decisions. Granted it's only happened a few times, but it's bothersome nonetheless.

I want to help the sub grow. We're in a great position to be bigger and better than Tulpa.info. Ignoring us and not being around is hurting us in general. I want this mod team to be able to all work together, in equal amounts or as much as they can give. If no one will work with me, you can work without me.

toeknee0126

Maybe you're right. Maybe there are too many mods on the list. We should learn from those subreddits that deal just fine with 100,000 subs and 1 mod. So lets see...we have 2,300, which goes into 100,000 43.478 times, so all we need is one 43rd of a mod. Just because there are big reddits with very few mods doesn't mean having more mods is a bad thing.

I step on you?

You mean, you do something and i tell you it's wrong and i fix it?

yeah, that tends to happen when you do something wrong. I do that to all the mods, not just you. Forgive me if i've been a bit short with all of you but i thought you could handle being told you did something wrong.

Hang on, let me go shorten the mod list by one.

//Post-removal discussion

1141325

dafuq happened to our mods overnight? weren't there like 9 or 10 of you?

toeknee0126

there were six. One of them sent a rather lengthy message to the rest of us explaining why he was resigning, and a second mod decided he would leave too for the same reasons. They felt that a lack of communication between mods was causing the community to suffer, among other things. RAWRCats left on his own, then i removed Kronkleberry because one of the main points he had against us (me, specifically) was that i would "step on him" whenever he made a moderation decision. I'm not willing to work with anyone who can't handle being told he's wrong.

They also both said they felt we have too many mods, and said they felt I was playing favorites because Jenna_Kitten is a mod and also my girlfriend (what they failed to realize is that 1) she said she would help with raids and such, and 2) we started dating after i added her as a mod.

So that's why there's fewer mods now.

1141325

Why so hostile to me? ffs, i just asked what happend.

toeknee0126

Sorry, not intending to come across as hostile or anything, just still kind of irritated at the whole situation. You've done nothing wrong

Jenna_Kitten

One word: Drama.

1141325

my question was already answered, just saying drama doesn't help at all at this point.

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/r/TulpasMy immediate removal as moderator

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[–] od Kronkleberry [+2] putem /r/Tulpas/ prije 5 dana

So be it. If you aren't willing to at least converse with me about these issues, I hope you can handle this all on your own.

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[–] poslano u Kronkleberry prije 5 dana

God dammit.

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/r/TulpasResigning as a moderator