



What I find disturbing is how when she ran even further pro gun in 2008, she had legislative proof that concerned me regarding non hunting uses of such weapons regarding safety and the intended use of some munitions (beyond her military love of cluster bombing, that being a separate issue)



Hillary voted against CHILD SAFETY LOCKS on guns. Bernie voted for the locks.





https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s397/summary



Hypocrite much? (Sec. 5) Child Safety Lock Act of 2005 - Prohibits the sale, delivery, or transfer by a licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer of a handgun to any person other than a person with a firearms license unless the transferee is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device. Lists exceptions, including for U.S. and state agencies and for law enforcement. Grants immunity from a qualified civil liability action for a person who has lawful possession and control of a handgun and who uses a secure gun storage or safety device. Establishes as penalties for violations: (1) license revocation or suspension for up to six months; or (2) a civil penalty of up to $2,500.Hypocrite much?

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Hillary voted _against_ banning armor piercing "cop-killer" bullets- Bernie voted for the ban





(Sec. 6) Sets penalties for using or carrying armor piercing ammunition during and in relation to a crime of violence or a drug trafficking crime, and for possessing armor piercing ammunition in furtherance of any such crime, that shall be in addition to the punishment otherwise provided for such crime.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s397/summary



What was Hillary thinking? Why did she vote against the ban on cop-killer bullets? (Sec. 6) Sets penalties for using or carrying armor piercing ammunition during and in relation to a crime of violence or a drug trafficking crime, and for possessing armor piercing ammunition in furtherance of any such crime, that shall be in addition to the punishment otherwise provided for such crime.What was Hillary thinking? Why did she vote against the ban on cop-killer bullets?

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Hillary has been a friend of the gun and ammo industries





Winchester rifle ammo with bullets designed to fragment and spread in the targets body





Big Ammo: Clinton is raising money from gunpowder lobbyists and investors



At the Democratic debate on 14 April 2016, Hillary Clinton said that we need a president who will stand up against the gun lobby. However Secretary of State Clinton effectively stood with the gun lobby as she approved millions in revenue for two huge gunpowder mills. Since then she has received payments from numerous ammunition industry stakeholders, including over $160,000 in contributions from her campaign chairs brother, ammo lobbyist Anthony Podesta.



While Clinton has been connected to the gunmakers that make the assault rifles used in American massacres and an NRA lobbyist, less attention has been paid to her ties to ammunition manufacturers that also play a central role in the gun lobby. In the financial years ending in 2010 and 2011, Secretary Clinton approved sales of ammunition worth upwards of $345 million. The approvals included those for a gunpowder giant that Clinton is especially close to.



Clinton approved sales for NRA-allied ammunition suppliers. Pentagon reports show that in the two years ending June 2011, Clinton approved more than $144 million in gun and ammunition sales for General Dynamics (GD) as well as $34 million in ammunition sales for GDs gunpowder client, Winchester. Though GD does not itself sell ammunition directly to the retail market, their St Marks Powder mill is a major wholesale supplier of gunpowder for domestic commercial ammo brands like Challenger, Samson, Ramshot, Blazer, Hodgdon and Winchester. General Dynamics gunpowders include formulation 748, the powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition. Remington 223 ammunition is used in AR-15 assault rifles, the type of guns that were used in both the Sandy Hook and San Bernardino massacres. Winchester sells ammunition to American consumers, and is a strong supporter of the gun lobby. Winchester has close ties with the National Rifle Association specifically, co-sponsoring a shooting education program with the NRA.

Winchester rifle ammo with bullets designed to fragment and spread in the targets bodyBig Ammo: Clinton is raising money from gunpowder lobbyists and investorsAt the Democratic debate on 14 April 2016, Hillary Clinton said that we need a president who will stand up against the gun lobby. However Secretary of State Clinton effectively stood with the gun lobby as she approved millions in revenue for two huge gunpowder mills. Since then she has received payments from numerous ammunition industry stakeholders, including over $160,000 in contributions from her campaign chairs brother, ammo lobbyist Anthony Podesta.While Clinton has been connected to the gunmakers that make the assault rifles used in American massacres and an NRA lobbyist, less attention has been paid to her ties to ammunition manufacturers that also play a central role in the gun lobby. In the financial years ending in 2010 and 2011, Secretary Clinton approved sales of ammunition worth upwards of $345 million. The approvals included those for a gunpowder giant that Clinton is especially close to.Clinton approved sales for NRA-allied ammunition suppliers. Pentagon reports show that in the two years ending June 2011, Clinton approved more than $144 million in gun and ammunition sales for General Dynamics (GD) as well as $34 million in ammunition sales for GDs gunpowder client, Winchester. Though GD does not itself sell ammunition directly to the retail market, their St Marks Powder mill is a major wholesale supplier of gunpowder for domestic commercial ammo brands like Challenger, Samson, Ramshot, Blazer, Hodgdon and Winchester. General Dynamics gunpowders include formulation 748, the powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition. Remington 223 ammunition is used in AR-15 assault rifles, the type of guns that were used in both the Sandy Hook and San Bernardino massacres. Winchester sells ammunition to American consumers, and is a strong supporter of the gun lobby. Winchester has close ties with the National Rifle Association specifically, co-sponsoring a shooting education program with the NRA.

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I don't get that "thrill of the kill" that appears to make hunting a sport, that thrill eludes me. I do have extended family members that do hunt, (not trophy hunters but to help subsidize their food supply), they live in rural areas and are poor, so I get it. I find it interesting that Hillary has now adopted Bernie sanders position now that she has reached Pa., but I don't find it surprising.What I find disturbing is how when she ran even further pro gun in 2008, she had legislative proof that concerned me regarding non hunting uses of such weapons regardingand the(beyond her military love of cluster bombing, that being a separate issue)