In a very on-brand podcast interview, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke on her primary win and the future of the Democratic Party — all while throwing a few punches.

In what has already become our unofficial quote of the week, the millennial democratic socialist presented listeners with one main takeaway: Skewing white and flaky won’t win elections.

“[Folks in the political establishment] think that running to the center, moderating our policies, being as close to a saltine cracker as possible is what’s going to make us win elections,” Ocasio-Cortez said when she was featured as a guest on this week’s Pod Save America. “And I don’t think that’s the case.”

“I think what animates nonvoters is feeling like someone is really fighting for them,” explained Ocasio-Cortez, who is running a race she’s almost certain to win to represent New York’s largely Latinx 14th district in Congress.

The congressional candidate’s hot take was part of a discussion with one of the show’s hosts, Jon Lovett, about Democrats needing to target nonvoters over party flip-floppers.

“The average age of a House Democrat right now is 65 years old,” Ocasio-Cortez continued. “I don’t think that they exactly see how rising income inequality has resulted in a very stark political reality.”

As noted by Jezebel, Ocasio-Cortez discussed how Democrats have to branch out from looking at politics as a “two-dimensional, left-right thing.” She went on to say, “We need to start reframing our issues from left-to-right to top-and-down.”

It’s not the first time Ocasio-Cortez has taken this stance.

"Our swing voter is not red-to-blue," she said at a campaign stop in Flint, Michigan, with Michigan gubernatorial candidate Abdul El-Sayed, according to CNN. "Our swing voter is the voter to the nonvoter, the nonvoter to the voter."

The former bartender and waitress campaigned this year on a platform of accessible health care, housing as a human right, gun control, federal jobs guaranteeing a minimum wage of $15 an hour, and more, according to her website. Her surprise win against Democratic heavyweight Joe Crowley has sparked a national conversation about how far left is too far left for a Democratic candidate trying to win.

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