(Note: Segment 3 of this interview has been removed from the podcast feed — out of respect for the family members involved, and due to legal and other concerns).

In this 4-part series, we interview Richard Packham — co-founder of the Ex-Mormon foundation. Throughout the interview and via Richard’s own personal story, we explore 3 ways in which the LDS Church creates unnecessary enemies:

Episode 1: By not being honest about its own history (e.g. teaching accurate history) Episode 2: By breaking up families (when one no longer believes) Episode 3: By harming the loved ones of those who have left the church Episode 4: To conclude, Richard discusses the benefits of religious belief and the LDS church, the mission of the ExMormon foundation, and bears a final testimony regarding the joy/happiness he has experienced since leaving the church.

NOTE: The purpose of this interview is NOT to encourage people to stay or leave the LDS church. It is simply to:

Seek to understand and to validate the path of those who have felt compelled to leave the church, and Explore ways in which the church can seek to no longer create unnecessary enemies.