Writer Bret Easton Ellis, best known for works like American Psycho and The Rules of Attraction, isn’t the first person one might expect to be involved in a secret, pornographic Kanye West project. As High Snobiety points out, however, the writer revealed in the latest episode of his B.E.E. podcast that Kanye reached out to him to work on “pornographic videos on tracks he had recorded during The Life of Pablo sessions.”

Although Ellis doesn’t specify which songs he’s referencing, Kanye did end up releasing a semi-pornographic video for “Famous” in 2016 that featured nude wax figures of celebrities and political figures like Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, Rihanna, Chris Brown, and Donald Trump. However, Ellis was not involved with that video and noted that “every hour I spent with him was more than worth it, even if [our] project never happened.”

According to Ellis, he’s worked with Kanye on several projects that haven’t ended up being released, including a television show. Considering the rapper is known for having his hands in many different areas at once, it’s not terribly surprising. Although Kanye has never produced porn himself, he has spoken often about his pornography viewing habits.

Way back in 2006, he told Rolling Stone that he was “addicted” to porn. “I think I have a sexual problem, a sexual addiction,” he said at the time. “I want to do it all the time. My only drug is porn. I have porn with me all the time. Whenever I go to the porn store, I call it the crack house.” Since then, the subject has come up with surprising frequency, and he’s even praised adult films for their (infamously bad) story lines. At 41 years old, it seems his childhood obsession hasn’t left him.

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