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Hero MemberActivity: 518Merit: 500 Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It May 17, 2013, 07:13:02 PM #5142 Quote from: furuknap on May 17, 2013, 06:42:47 PM Quote from: bluespaceant on May 17, 2013, 06:36:04 PM



Not considering bitcoin that was or is lost or detroyed, the max it could ever be per share would be 52.499875 BTC.



So we have a ways to go.

The maximum share price possible would be approximately 20,999,950 (maximum number of bitcoins that could ever exist anywhere - the unspendable 50 coins generated in the genesis block by Satoshi) / 400,000 (outstanding shares of ASICMINER).Not considering bitcoin that was or is lost or detroyed, the max it could ever be per share would be 52.499875 BTC.So we have a ways to go.

You're forgetting the transaction fees, which are essentially infinite if we just have enough transactions, so thus the maximum price would be (infinite-50)/400K.



I also have a nice, red bridge for sale, if you want that. One owner only, located in San Francisco. 1,000 BTC only, you send first.



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You're forgetting the transaction fees, which are essentially infinite if we just have enough transactions, so thus the maximum price would be (infinite-50)/400K.I also have a nice, red bridge for sale, if you want that. One owner only, located in San Francisco. 1,000 BTC only, you send first..b

The larger issue is that his math assumes that the only value for bitcoin would be to buy ASICMINER shares, which is impossible for a number of reasons, both logistical and economical.



The best answer for ASICMINER's top possible value: "The most anyone is willing to pay for it." The larger issue is that his math assumes that the only value for bitcoin would be to buy ASICMINER shares, which is impossible for a number of reasons, both logistical and economical.The best answer for ASICMINER's top possible value: "The most anyone is willing to pay for it."

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LegendaryActivity: 1666Merit: 1036Learning the troll avoidance button :) Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It May 17, 2013, 08:20:37 PM #5145 Quote from: SebastianJu on May 17, 2013, 06:12:12 PM Quote from: SmiGueL on May 17, 2013, 01:59:06 PM



www.asicminercharts.com



In the next days/weeks I'll improve it by creating a light & dark version, and maybe some thumbs at the top or side to quickly navigate to the desired chart



I've just created a new site which combines all my ASICMINER hashrate charts (almost) full-screen on 1 page

Great... i had the problem with some charts in google docs that i only could see the left part... the right part was hidden when the browser was too thin and there was no bar to move it. This website solves this... thanks...



By the way... is the other google docs, from the other user, gone that auto updated the shareprices too? I only see a google login for it.



Great... i had the problem with some charts in google docs that i only could see the left part... the right part was hidden when the browser was too thin and there was no bar to move it. This website solves this... thanks...By the way... is the other google docs, from the other user, gone that auto updated the shareprices too? I only see a google login for it.

Nope the google doc is still working at least mine is

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=12

Not sure what url your using though



That said the company is interesting

Bullish sentiment is high and rightly so

But pondering is it justified == Warren or Apple or just caused by a damn big dividend XD

That said I keep a base position I won't sell easily and then a speculator side ha-ha but am a long runner

He-he I get to be the bear sometimes hmm those need a nickname too Nope the google doc is still working at least mine isNot sure what url your using thoughThat said the company is interestingBullish sentiment is high and rightly soBut pondering is it justified == Warren or Apple or just caused by a damn big dividend XDThat said I keep a base position I won't sell easily and then a speculator side ha-ha but am a long runnerHe-he I get to be the bear sometimes hmm those need a nickname too

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LegendaryActivity: 1666Merit: 1036Learning the troll avoidance button :) Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It May 17, 2013, 10:11:38 PM #5147 Quote from: ThickAsThieves on May 17, 2013, 07:13:02 PM Quote from: furuknap on May 17, 2013, 06:42:47 PM Quote from: bluespaceant on May 17, 2013, 06:36:04 PM



Not considering bitcoin that was or is lost or detroyed, the max it could ever be per share would be 52.499875 BTC.



So we have a ways to go.

The maximum share price possible would be approximately 20,999,950 (maximum number of bitcoins that could ever exist anywhere - the unspendable 50 coins generated in the genesis block by Satoshi) / 400,000 (outstanding shares of ASICMINER).Not considering bitcoin that was or is lost or detroyed, the max it could ever be per share would be 52.499875 BTC.So we have a ways to go.

You're forgetting the transaction fees, which are essentially infinite if we just have enough transactions, so thus the maximum price would be (infinite-50)/400K.



I also have a nice, red bridge for sale, if you want that. One owner only, located in San Francisco. 1,000 BTC only, you send first.



.b

You're forgetting the transaction fees, which are essentially infinite if we just have enough transactions, so thus the maximum price would be (infinite-50)/400K.I also have a nice, red bridge for sale, if you want that. One owner only, located in San Francisco. 1,000 BTC only, you send first..b

The larger issue is that his math assumes that the only value for bitcoin would be to buy ASICMINER shares, which is impossible for a number of reasons, both logistical and economical.



The best answer for ASICMINER's top possible value: "The most anyone is willing to pay for it."

The larger issue is that his math assumes that the only value for bitcoin would be to buy ASICMINER shares, which is impossible for a number of reasons, both logistical and economical.The best answer for ASICMINER's top possible value: "The most anyone is willing to pay for it."

That and that maximum number of bitcoins is past our length of duration XD

Well unless we become cyborgs and ASIC miner develops cyber life chips

Now I'm just being silly



And to Sebastian ah thought it was that one not sure then, sorry about that That and that maximum number of bitcoins is past our length of duration XDWell unless we become cyborgs and ASIC miner develops cyber life chipsNow I'm just being sillyAnd to Sebastian ah thought it was that one not sure then, sorry about that

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Last edit: May 18, 2013, 11:42:29 AM by SmiGueL #5149 Quote from: SebastianJu on May 17, 2013, 06:12:12 PM Great... i had the problem with some charts in google docs that i only could see the left part... the right part was hidden when the browser was too thin and there was no bar to move it. This website solves this... thanks...



By the way... is the other google docs, from the other user, gone that auto updated the shareprices too? I only see a google login for it.



I was aware of this problem (by accident because I've worked on 1280, 1680, and 1920 pixels wide monitors this week)

And I see it as a Google Docs bug...

The size of the chart depends on the monitor resolution when you create it..

So the sheet (I think it was

I've edited it now (don't ask how I did it ) to be better viewable on lower resolution monitors, but on full HD monitors you now have a lot of white space around it



The charts on the

*Currently changing the host, so may be down for a short time I was aware of this problem (by accident because I've worked on 1280, 1680, and 1920 pixels wide monitors this week)And I see it as a Google Docs bug...The size of the chart depends on the monitor resolution when you create it..So the sheet (I think it was this one) was created at a 1920 pixels wide monitor, and everyone who is viewing it in a lower resolution won't see the right and lower part of it :|I've edited it now (don't ask how I did it) to be better viewable on lower resolution monitors, but on full HD monitors you now have a lot of white space around itThe charts on the site always adjusts to the width of the monitor resolution



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Full MemberActivity: 132Merit: 100 Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It May 18, 2013, 02:37:40 AM #5152



Sometimes companies pay out a one time special dividend that's way above normal. Microsoft did that once. The most recent case is Costco and Wynn Resorts (of Las Vegas fame).



There are some companies on Nasdaq or NYSE that pays out 90% of taxable income. These are the investment trust companies. These companies pays out 90% of the income to get tax advantages. Try ticker symbol MPW, HGT.



More about HGT:



Full Disclosure: I am not endorsing any companies mentioned. Using them as example only. Guys let's not get too excited here.Sometimes companies pay out a one time special dividend that's way above normal. Microsoft did that once. The most recent case is Costco and Wynn Resorts (of Las Vegas fame).There are some companies on Nasdaq or NYSE that pays out 90% of taxable income. These are the investment trust companies. These companies pays out 90% of the income to get tax advantages. Try ticker symbol MPW, HGT.More about HGT: http://seekingalpha.com/article/608191-hugoton-royalty-trust-how-to-buy-60-cents-for-a-dollar Full Disclosure: I am not endorsing any companies mentioned. Using them as example only.

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LegendaryActivity: 1666Merit: 1036Learning the troll avoidance button :) Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It May 18, 2013, 04:15:00 AM #5154 Quote from: stripykitteh on May 18, 2013, 04:12:56 AM Quote from: Aureum_Coffee on May 18, 2013, 02:37:40 AM



Sometimes companies pay out a one time special dividend that's way above normal. Microsoft did that once. The most recent case is Costco and Wynn Resorts (of Las Vegas fame).



There are some companies on Nasdaq or NYSE that pays out 90% of taxable income. These are the investment trust companies. These companies pays out 90% of the income to get tax advantages. Try ticker symbol MPW, HGT.



More about HGT:



Full Disclosure: I am not endorsing any companies mentioned. Using them as example only.

Guys let's not get too excited here.Sometimes companies pay out a one time special dividend that's way above normal. Microsoft did that once. The most recent case is Costco and Wynn Resorts (of Las Vegas fame).There are some companies on Nasdaq or NYSE that pays out 90% of taxable income. These are the investment trust companies. These companies pays out 90% of the income to get tax advantages. Try ticker symbol MPW, HGT.More about HGT: http://seekingalpha.com/article/608191-hugoton-royalty-trust-how-to-buy-60-cents-for-a-dollar Full Disclosure: I am not endorsing any companies mentioned. Using them as example only.

Yes, my prediction is that if it's AM policy to pay out earnings after only retaining enough for operations, future hardware orders and R&D for next-generation chips (rather than retain earnings for new ventures), that dividends will be relatively high in the near future from a sales bonanza on blades and sticks, then decline as customer demand for hardware declines (they'll either drop the price on blades or be content to sell fewer of them).



AM will not try to smooth out dividends to keep the share price high, and I don't have a problem with it. It will cause more volatility in the share price, though, which makes investing for the short-term riskier.

Yes, my prediction is that if it's AM policy to pay out earnings after only retaining enough for operations, future hardware orders and R&D for next-generation chips (rather than retain earnings for new ventures), that dividends will be relatively high in the near future from a sales bonanza on blades and sticks, then decline as customer demand for hardware declines (they'll either drop the price on blades or be content to sell fewer of them).AM will not try to smooth out dividends to keep the share price high, and I don't have a problem with it. It will cause more volatility in the share price, though, which makes investing for the short-term riskier.

True with risk comes rewards but it will scare people in the short-term

That said breaking 0.2 True with risk comes rewards but it will scare people in the short-termThat said breaking 0.2