TRUMP: You know I’ve done some very good things. Look — North Korea — you’d be in a war right now. O.K.? Venezuela we have to see how that works out, Maggie and Peter. We’re going to have to see. I mean, I think a lot of people have actually liked what I’ve done in Venezuela, I mean from what I’m hearing. But Venezuela we’re going to have to see. But we have a lot of things going. China. China was killing our country. They were taking out $500 billion dollars a year. Just ripping it out of our country. We wouldn’t have survived, I mean we were going to go down the tubes. And now they’re, I mean they want to make a deal so badly and it’s, it’s big stuff. It’s tremendous. And, and I don’t even know if that’s the most important. We’ve done a good job. And I’d love to be treated fairly. I’ll tell you what I find it so incredible that I’m sitting here with the bad publicity I get. I’m not blaming you two. I mean, I’m blaming like — now Fox treats me very well. I must say and even there, you know, I could be happier, but Fox treats me very well. And others treat me well. You know what’s very interesting — local television is so great to me. Right? I said I can’t believe it. I get some clips. The local, the local station. Even if you go to ABC or NBC — NBC’s terrible — you go to NBC local, it’s like, I’d say it’s like a different planet. CBS. It’s hard to believe actually. But, but what amazes me, because I have great respect for the press, it amazes me that I can be treated so badly and I won. And we’re doing well. You know, it is pretty hard to believe actually. But I don’t want that to happen.

SULZBERGER: I would say, you know, speaking broadly for the press, and then speaking specifically for at The New York Times, every occupant of your office has felt like the coverage was tougher than it should have been.

TRUMP: That’s true. I think that’s true. I mean, I’m surprised because some I think got — [to Baker] now you did a book about Barack Obama so you got to know him. He didn’t think he got good press either. But I think I get it really bad. I mean, let’s face it, this is at a level that nobody’s ever had before.

SULZBERGER: But it’s part, it’s — tough coverage is part of occupying the most powerful seat on earth. You know that chair right there that you’re sitting in is the most powerful seat on earth and it comes with it, you know, scrutiny and questions. You have my, speaking for The Times, you know my enduring commitment that we will treat you fairly and accurately.

TRUMP: I appreciate it.

SULZBERGER: As we have for, for presidential administrations for 150 years now. Starting with I think that guy [gestures to Abraham Lincoln painting].

TRUMP: Yeah. He was a good one.

SULZBERGER: But I do, you know, I hope you’ll think on the language point because the effects are not just being felt with the outlets who you feel are treating you unfairly — they’re being felt all over the world including folks who are literally putting their lives on the line to report the truth.

TRUMP: I understand that and I do. I would say this. If — I have never — I don’t mind a bad story if it’s true. I really don’t. You know, we’re all like big people. We understand what’s happening. I’ve had bad stories, very bad stories where I thought it was true and I would never complain. But when you get really bad stories where it’s not true, then you sort of say that’s unfair and you know you have a tremendous power, you have the power of the pen, the power of the ink. You have a tremendous power. I guess I have the power of a very big, uh, I think Dan [Scavino, a White House aide] said it’s like 162 million if you add up the different sites, the five sites, or whatever it is but it’s a lot. I think on the one it’s —