Hillary Clinton, like the New England Patriots or the New York Yankees, is loved by some, loathed by many more, possessed of incontestable skill, and presumed to be cheating any time she can get away with it.

Reddit hates Hillary Clinton. Just straight hates her, to an extremely comical degree. To get a picture, first recall the turmoil when Ellen Pao, Reddit’s first female CEO, left the company:

Censorship is certainly a valid subject for debate. But rather than spur civilized discourse on the issue, the question of censorship surrounding the May subreddit bans led to users wanting to "punch Ellen Pao in the face." It also inspired the creation of subreddits with names like "EllenPaoIsaBigCunt," and even a plan to Google bomb Pao so that a search for her name would turn up Nazi symbols.

Next, add in your average Redditor’s wholesale adoption of what Vox's Johnathan Allen calls the “Clinton Rules,” describing the media’s coverage of the Clintons:

1) Everything, no matter how ludicrous-sounding, is worthy of a full investigation by federal agencies, Congress, the "vast right-wing conspiracy," and mainstream media outlets.

2) Every allegation, no matter how ludicrous, is believable until it can be proven completely and utterly false. And even then, it keeps a life of its own in the conservative media world.

3) The media assumes that Clinton is acting in bad faith until there's hard evidence otherwise.

4) Everything is newsworthy because the Clintons are the equivalent of America's royal family

5) Everything she does is fake and calculated for maximum political benefit

Hooooo, boy, does this create fireworks. On a daily basis, normal people throughout the Reddit universe take time out of their schedules to draft lengthy treatises as to why they hate Hillary Clinton. One user, r/ArtlessWonder, posts a fairly popular weekly commentary on the r/politics subreddit titled “All the reasons that people hate Hillary Clinton,” which at this point is up to nearly 3000 words. And given the insular nature of a website where content is promoted into visibility through popular demand, mass opinions easily concentrate and solidify. Within minutes, allegations of corruption or wrongdoing bounce through Reddit between the hard-right and progressive blogospheres (both of which loathe Clinton); you can watch in real-time as a badly-sourced blog post turns into something that "everyone knows." This isn’t to say that there aren’t plenty of entirely valid reasons to vote against Clinton or dislike her, but on Reddit, the woman is basically a DC Comics villain.

All this is to say that r/HillaryClinton is the Internet equivalent of the Green Zone in wartime Baghdad – a barricaded enclave surrounded by hostile territory. Outwardly, the site is the picture of calm order, with a clean layout and a fairly active userbase. A constant stream of posts, many each hour, discuss the candidate and the state of the race, most receiving dozens to hundreds of comments.

Sifting through these comments, of course, is like attending a dinner party thrown by a 43-year-old dentist from Connecticut. If you've ever felt that you needed more CNN-approved conventional wisdom in your life, look no further. If you ever wanted to be talked down to by someone who believes their analysis is wholly validated by a BA in political science from Dartmouth, I have the place for you. If you've ever listed to A Prairie Home Companion for any reason other than physical duress, I have a well-manicured society that you can call home.

And this order is a tightly controlled order. Like the candidate, the calm surface belies a paranoia and suspicion of the world at large. Elsewhere on Reddit and the Internet at large, partisans fight over whether Clinton is corrupt, or a warmonger, or in the pockets of the BILLIONAYERS, or is a poorly disguised lizard person. R/HillaryClinton remains free of such turmoil. Oh look, an endorsement from John Hodgman. Ooh, looks like Clinton just told US Weekly 25 things we don’t know about her. She loves hot sauce! Don’t we all.

Yet sprinkled throughout these posts are the equivalent of the mortar craters outside your Green Zone Burger King: a comment showing only “[removed]” and an explanation of why the mods have deleted it.