User Info: talesfan215 talesfan215 10 years ago #1 Lord Freeza is the true emperor of terror, no one comes close to him.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs35/f/2008/302/3/7/Freeza_Wallpaper_by_SAM01.jpg At first I thought it was because you had to be pure-hearted to learn it, but that was for the spirit bomb, not the kaioken technique. It would have helped make the humans at least have some form of multiplier, maybe they could have done Kaioken times 50 by the time of the Cell saga, seeing as how Tien was able to hold second form Cell down, whom even 16 couldn't defeat.

User Info: amari24 amari24 10 years ago #2 Couldn't Cell do the Spirit Bomb? But I think it was because they wern't strong enough. Don't you have to be strong to withstand the Kaioken?

User Info: Savra104 Savra104 10 years ago #3 I would assume it's because of either:

-the physical strain necessary to use Kaioken isn't quite worth the pay-off. Hence why Goku, himself, doesn't use it after he gets Super Saiyan.

-he assumed King Kai taught them the techniques when they stayed, considering they apparently did a better job than he did.

-he never got around to it/they never asked him for it. Or something to this degree.

-there wasn't a point. Remember, the humans were merely Captain Ginyu's level at best. And that's a stretch considering we never get a real gauge of their power that isn't filler.



From a manga-only perspective, consider this: Krillin's potential unlock on Namek put him at 13,000. Even 10 years after this point, Yamcha considers Krillin the strongest of humans. Even if Krillin managed to drag that up to 100,000, a Kaioken x50 would (as a guesstimate) place him at 5,000,000. Which is absolutely pathetic at this point considering Super Saiyan Goku and Frieza on Namek were hovering around/over 150mil and 120mil respectively . (Information from Kanzentai, taken from Daizenshuu 7)



Essentially, they'd have to be using Kaioken x1200 just to fight Frieza temporarily on equal footing. You might as well get a giant microwave, sit in it, and have your buddy set it for 5 minutes on high.

User Info: talesfan215 talesfan215 (Topic Creator) 10 years ago #4 Lord Freeza is the true emperor of terror, no one comes close to him.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs35/f/2008/302/3/7/Freeza_Wallpaper_by_SAM01.jpg Well, I just think the humans had a lot of potential. I don't know if when Krillin fought form 1 of Cell was filler or not, but he was able to hurt him. Also, the humans got as strong as Radits training less than a year on Kami's place, it's kind of ironic because Goku trained there for three years and didn't reach that kind of power. I remember Goku's training being a lot tougher too, all the humans did was spar with each other, since the pendulum room was filler, it doesn't count.

User Info: SazukeEX SazukeEX 10 years ago #5



Goku is a jerk. XBox Live: Tinklyknight (Not Gold at the moment due to various reasons) Simple...Goku is a jerk.

User Info: NeoFlyingDragon NeoFlyingDragon 10 years ago #6 One who knows nothing can understand only nothing.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8571/putyourgunson.png He forgot how to do it after the freeza saga and he had no time to teach em be4 that lulz

User Info: thelastgogeta thelastgogeta 10 years ago #7 Simple...



Toriyama forgot about it.



It's actually reasonable that he ignored the move, in DBZ, everyone can use each other's techniques basically. Special attack? Copy the stance, say the same thing and charge... Success first time. Goku only failed the first time presumably to inexperience in Volume 2... since he wasn't taught the technique explictly, he simply did it like snap. Same with others in the story. Having everyone exploit this would lower character diversity to hair style.



Though Kaioken should have been learnt as they went to train and were much stronger than Goku when he arrived at King Kai's. They were roughly Saibaman leveled, Goku was around 300. Supersonic Warriors 1, the GBA game made a what if where Goku taught Krillin the technique and spirit bomb so at least games and filler don't forget... >_< Get, Play The Undersold Triforce: Z+W, NMH, Okami!

PM of the SSR Board + Ninja of SATBK/SATFS forever It's actually reasonable that he ignored the move, in DBZ, everyone can use each other's techniques basically. Special attack? Copy the stance, say the same thing and charge... Success first time. Goku only failed the first time presumably to inexperience in Volume 2... since he wasn't taught the technique explictly, he simply did it like snap. Same with others in the story. Having everyone exploit this would lower character diversity to hair style.Though Kaioken should have been learnt as they went to train and were much stronger than Goku when he arrived at King Kai's. They were roughly Saibaman leveled, Goku was around 300. Supersonic Warriors 1, the GBA game made a what if where Goku taught Krillin the technique and spirit bomb so at least games and filler don't forget... >_

User Info: talesfan215 talesfan215 (Topic Creator) 10 years ago #8 It's actually reasonable that he ignored the move, in DBZ, everyone can use each other's techniques basically. Special attack? Copy the stance, say the same thing and charge... Success first time. Goku only failed the first time presumably to inexperience in Volume 2... since he wasn't taught the technique explictly, he simply did it like snap. Same with others in the story. Having everyone exploit this would lower character diversity to hair style.



Though Kaioken should have been learnt as they went to train and were much stronger than Goku when he arrived at King Kai's. They were roughly Saibaman leveled, Goku was around 300. Supersonic Warriors 1, the GBA game made a what if where Goku taught Krillin the technique and spirit bomb so at least games and filler don't forget... >_<



The humans would have been really strong had they trained in the hyperbolic time chamber and learn the kaioken technique. It's obvious that Tien must have had at least a million in power level at the Cell saga, training the kaikoen technique for two years in the hyperbolic time chamber would have done wonders for the humans, a mere Kaioken times 30 would put Tien at 30 million, and this is without the training. I guess toriyama didn't cared much for the humans, it sucks though, they were unique and had more diversity to the saiyans in my opinion. Lord Freeza is the true emperor of terror, no one comes close to him.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs35/f/2008/302/3/7/Freeza_Wallpaper_by_SAM01.jpg The humans would have been really strong had they trained in the hyperbolic time chamber and learn the kaioken technique. It's obvious that Tien must have had at least a million in power level at the Cell saga, training the kaikoen technique for two years in the hyperbolic time chamber would have done wonders for the humans, a mere Kaioken times 30 would put Tien at 30 million, and this is without the training. I guess toriyama didn't cared much for the humans, it sucks though, they were unique and had more diversity to the saiyans in my opinion.

User Info: ultimatedante ultimatedante 10 years ago #9 Yamcha will have a kaio-ken form in RB2