Four former aides to President Obama — Jon Favreau, Dan Pfeiffer, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor — are joined by journalists, politicians, comedians, and activists for a freewheeling conversation about politics, the press and the challenges posed by the Trump presidency.

Trump attacks the threat assessment from his own intelligence chiefs, and a debate breaks out in the Democratic primary over Medicare for All and taxing the wealthy. Then the New Yorker’s Isaac Chotiner talks to Jon Lovett about his interviews with Trump aides Rudy Giuliani and Cliff Sims.