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Cincinnati, OH techguru306 Member Wow that was Fast! Wow that was Fast! I was not expecting Charter Communications to talk to Time Warner Cable until sometime next week! It sound like Charter Communications really wants Time Warner Cable.

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Southwick, MA 1 recommendation mikesco8 Member Re: Wow that was Fast! From a negotiation standpoint they would have been smart to let TWC call them or at least wait a bit. Now they just look like an over zealous teenage boy overly infatuated with a pretty girl who just got dumped by the high school quarterback.

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I'll start.... I hope the feds kill Charter's effort too. I'd rather see TWC close shop than have Charter risk any action that might infect Charter with TWC business practices. Hang around with the infirmed and chances are you will get infected....



Actually I don't give a rats butt either way. I just wanted to be one of the first to start the insipid howling that goes on here over these matters.

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techguru306 Member Re: And the Howling Begins said by armed: The howling begins in 3... 2...



I'll start.... I hope the feds kill Charter's effort too. I'd rather see TWC close shop than have Charter risk any action that might infect Charter with TWC business practices. Hang around with the infirmed and chances are you will get infected....



Actually I don't give a rats butt either way. I just wanted to be one of the first to start the insipid howling that goes on here over these matters. The Department of Justice and the Federal Communications Commission will not be able to block a Time Warner Cable and Charter Communications deal. Due to Charter Communications not being a big company like Comcast and the fact that Time Warner Cable does not want to run a cable company they want to sell.

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East Amherst, NY elefante72 Member Re: And the Howling Begins To Malone TWC is a swimsuit model and BrightHouse is the girl next door. When TWC became available the siren song was heard! Malone is a master consolidator, so it would be interesting to see how TWC being divested to Charter will impact TW and how Malone will try to vertically integrate Liberty into the new company.



It is all about vertical integration is it not?



Hmm

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Comcast could go after the DOJ and the FCC claiming that they have the legal right to merge. Comcast could very much win with that case in court- which WSJ has reported last night, that the DOJ and the FCC recommend to meet with the courts in having the case heard.

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techguru306 Member Re: And the Howling Begins said by Hmm : Comcast could go after the DOJ and the FCC claiming that they have the legal right to merge. Comcast could very much win with that case in court- which WSJ has reported last night, that the DOJ and the FCC recommend to meet with the courts in having the case heard. Comcast decided not to fight the FCC and DOJ decision and they have officially canceled the merger. Even if they fought the FCC and DOJ in court, Comcast would lose due to the fact they have abused their market power and they used their market power anti competitively. They have shown with the NBC/Universal deal that Comcast does not keep their word or commitments.

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"Infecting with TWC business practices". Like rolling out 300/20 internet in some areas? Yes, TWC is priced higher, but we don't have caps, their peering is decent at this point, and stuff generally works (except for that fifteen minute nationwide outage a few nights ago).



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@charter.com Here2Help3 Anon Re: And the Howling Begins said by iansltx: "Infecting with TWC business practices". Like rolling out 300/20 internet in some areas? Yes, TWC is priced higher, but we don't have caps, their peering is decent at this point, and stuff generally works (except for that fifteen minute nationwide outage a few nights ago). Charter doesn't have caps either. Oh Charter's usually ranked in Netflix top ISPs despite being one of the few that doesn't demand ransom.

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Charter's guide isn't the best guide around though...

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techguru306 Member Re: And the Howling Begins said by jjeffeory: Charter's guide isn't the best guide around though... Charter is working on a new cloud guide. If Charter is able to get Time Warner Cable they would most likely use Time Warner Cable's Navigator due to the fact Time Warner Cable is way ahead of Charter in terms of Cable Box Software and also in cloud features as well too.



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said by armed: I'd rather see TWC close shop than have Charter risk any action that might infect Charter with TWC business practices As far as business practices, that's the 1 area that Charter REALLY sucks at! I don't give a rats butt about this either, but knew this was coming immediately.



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IowaCowboy Premium Member Suprise And guess what, they'll have to placate regulators so they'll have to divest markets so déjà vu all over again. Hopefully Maine will be divested as I don't want Charter up there should I decide to move into grandma's house up there if I inherit it. I'd rather them divest it to Mediacom or Comcast.



Or maybe they'll sell TWC piecemeal to several different cablecos like Comcast, Mediacom, Cablevision, Charter, and Cox. That seems like the only way to placate regulators in today's consumer friendly regulatory market. That's what they did with AT&T Broadband with Iowa going to Mediacom and the Northeast going to Comcast.

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techguru306 Member Re: Suprise said by IowaCowboy: And guess what, they'll have to placate regulators so they'll have to divest markets so déjà vu all over again. Hopefully Maine will be divested as I don't want Charter up there should I decide to move into grandma's house up there if I inherit it. I'd rather them divest it to Mediacom or Comcast.



Or maybe they'll sell TWC piecemeal to several different cablecos like Comcast, Mediacom, Cablevision, Charter, and Cox. That seems like the only way to placate regulators in today's consumer friendly regulatory market. That's what they did with AT&T Broadband with Iowa going to Mediacom and the Northeast going to Comcast. Why do they have to divest markets? They are not as big as Comcast and will be no where close to the size of Comcast if this merger happens.



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said by IowaCowboy: And guess what, they'll have to placate regulators so they'll have to divest markets so déjà vu all over again. Why? Charter/TWC 2/3 the size of Comcast. Charter would also have to buy Brighthouse and Cox to be almost as big as Comcast.



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Consumer friendly? There is nothing consumer friendly. The only thing that needs to change is the FCC/DOJ to change and this deal would have gone through like SBC/BS.



If we get a Rep. president in 2016 you can bet this deal would go through if they tried again. But if the T and DirecTV deal goes through, Comcast should in fact sue the US Gov't for this. Let the gov't sell more to China for screwing up.



By the way- I do see TWC splitting the company up and letting Suddenlink (who does cap), Mediacom, CableOne and all the others take chunks of the company. RCN and WOW could even grab it since they are owned by investment companies or even a Canadian company since one of their MSOs own a US MSO now.

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techguru306 Member Re: Suprise said by Hmm : Consumer friendly? There is nothing consumer friendly. The only thing that needs to change is the FCC/DOJ to change and this deal would have gone through like SBC/BS.



If we get a Rep. president in 2016 you can bet this deal would go through if they tried again. But if the T and DirecTV deal goes through, Comcast should in fact sue the US Gov't for this. Let the gov't sell more to China for screwing up.



By the way- I do see TWC splitting the company up and letting Suddenlink (who does cap), Mediacom, CableOne and all the others take chunks of the company. RCN and WOW could even grab it since they are owned by investment companies or even a Canadian company since one of their MSOs own a US MSO now. The Federal Communications Commission and Department of Justice can only block this merger if it create a monopoly or hurts the public interest. Charter and a Time Warner Cable merger does not give them enough power to hurt the public interest and or create a monopoly.

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Portage, IN 3 recommendations clone (banned) Member Re: Suprise So how would the TWC/Comcast merger have created a monopoly? Tell me where, today, you can choose between Time Warner or Comcast for your cable service that one of the systems wouldn't have been divested in a merger, anyway. The geographical areas would be so small as to be negligible in a merger of this size.



I wish we could address the elephant in the room that most people on this site are just plain-old-anticapitalist and don't like to see successful businesses.



I'd have a lot more respect for people if they just came out and said they hate large corporations rather than give some half-cocked response about monopolies or "the public interest" (like Comcast or TWC give a fuck about the public interest separately), as it's almost an idea I can get behind. But to cry that it creates a "monopoly" is just bullshit.



TWC and Comcast compete against each other in nearly no areas. By that logic, DirecTV and Dish should be broken up into operating companies that service different geographical areas, which is ludicrous.



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1 recommendation IowaCowboy Premium Member Re: Suprise You should see the mess consolidation in the banking industry has created. Have you ever heard the words Too Big To Fail. Or too big to function. These companies have gotten so big that they cannot give basic customer service or fix problems. Take for example the banking mess. I don't sympathize with people who don't pay their mortgages but what about the people who don't have a mortgage on their house only to get a foreclose filing on their house from a big bank that never had a mortgage because of robo signed documents. Or had their possessions thrown out because the foreclosure team showed up at the wrong address or because the bank screwed up.



Comcast is known for charging rent on customer owned equipment and making customers go through hoops to get the charges taken off. I'm surprised they haven't faced a class action lawsuit over rent on customer owned equipment as its outright fraud.

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Portage, IN clone (banned) Member Re: Suprise What does that have to do with Comcast/TWC? There are huge differences between the financial sector and TV service. And, since you didn't offer any arguments, I assume you agree that "monopoly" is the wrong term to describe a combined cable company?



I have magnitudes more sympathy for people who are getting their house foreclosed on, whether they were a victim of predatory lending/ghost mortgage or a plain old deadbeat, than someone who has to call and argue with a rep to get a $10 charge removed from their cable bill. Apples and oranges. I don't disagree that it's horribly shitty of Comcast to charge box rental on customer-owned equipment (although if you've ever seen the backend of their mess of a billing system, it's definitely not malicious), and perhaps if this issue is widespread enough then there indeed should be some legal remedy taken by consumers to correct it.



But that still wouldn't make the combined company a monopoly, under any definition of the word. Again, if you want to come out and say "big businesses suck", say it. That's your opinion and you're absolutely entitled to it, and I respect that. But personally, I've never had any issues with Comcast's service, and if I did, I'd switch back to DirecTV and DSL. I even still get my discount every month for customer owned equipment ($2.50 per TiVo!).



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Corry, PA jubangy Premium Member Re: Suprise You are correct monopoly is absolutely the wrong term. Noone wanted comcast in the twc area because well they are just an asshole company. People read the headlines weekly seeing what new mess comcast has created. I for one would love to have some of the speeds they offer, but unfortunately it comes with the rest of their headache and it's not worth it. They have become to big which is why they can keep steam rolling people when they screw up who can afford to fight with them, and it is not like they can pick another provider (which is your point).

Breaking up the merger was the smaller issue, someone needs to get comcasts head out of their butt a company that big is dangerous, they have already shown plenty of times that they are big enough to snub their nose at most anyone.



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join:2012-09-20 why60loss Premium Member Re: Suprise said by jubangy: You are correct monopoly is absolutely the wrong term. Noone wanted comcast in the twc area because well they are just an asshole company. People read the headlines weekly seeing what new mess comcast has created. I for one would love to have some of the speeds they offer, but unfortunately it comes with the rest of their headache and it's not worth it. They have become to big which is why they can keep steam rolling people when they screw up who can afford to fight with them, and it is not like they can pick another provider (which is your point).

Breaking up the merger was the smaller issue, someone needs to get comcasts head out of their butt a company that big is dangerous, they have already shown plenty of times that they are big enough to snub their nose at most anyone.



I think the issue many had is they both had so many issues that they did not earn the right to merge. If Comcast had better CS and didn't have the cap "test" markets I think the deal could have gone though.



I enjoy Comcast service just fine and it was a far less of a headache than TWC and all there BS.



I just think the media was paid by AT&T and others that share the market with Comcast/TWC to shame Comcast more than any other ISP even though TWC has been rated worse than Comcast who is bigger that doesn't matter.



Now many TWC will get stuck in the dark age's and they have no one to blame other than all those who hated Comcast so much they didn't think of what the results could be for TWC after this deal failed.



By the way I was against both the AT&T/T-Mobile deal and the sprint/T-Mobile deal. So I am not pro let every business merge. TWC customer service sucks too and they can be just as much if not more of an "asshole company" as Comcast. In fact many have rated TWC worse than Comcast.I think the issue many had is they both had so many issues that they did not earn the right to merge. If Comcast had better CS and didn't have the cap "test" markets I think the deal could have gone though.I enjoy Comcast service just fine and it was a far less of a headache than TWC and all there BS.I just think the media was paid by AT&T and others that share the market with Comcast/TWC to shame Comcast more than any other ISP even though TWC has been rated worse than Comcast who is bigger that doesn't matter.Now many TWC will get stuck in the dark age's and they have no one to blame other than all those who hated Comcast so much they didn't think of what the results could be for TWC after this deal failed.By the way I was against both the AT&T/T-Mobile deal and the sprint/T-Mobile deal. So I am not pro let every business merge.



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said by clone: So how would the TWC/Comcast merger have created a monopoly? Tell me where, today, you can choose between Time Warner or Comcast for your cable service that one of the systems wouldn't have been divested in a merger, anyway. The geographical areas would be so small as to be negligible in a merger of this size.



I wish we could address the elephant in the room that most people on this site are just plain-old-anticapitalist and don't like to see successful businesses.



I'd have a lot more respect for people if they just came out and said they hate large corporations rather than give some half-cocked response about monopolies or "the public interest" (like Comcast or TWC give a fuck about the public interest separately), as it's almost an idea I can get behind. But to cry that it creates a "monopoly" is just bullshit.



TWC and Comcast compete against each other in nearly no areas. By that logic, DirecTV and Dish should be broken up into operating companies that service different geographical areas, which is ludicrous. It is the greater market power they would have in broadband if the merger was approved. If that merger was approved they would control over 50% of the broadband market. They have already have used their current market power they have to squash online video completion. Example Comcast intentionally let their peering point degrade until Netflix could barely stream in SD. Netflix was starting to lose customers due to the issue Comcast created and they were forced to pay Comcast's ransom. Netflix had to pay Comcast or go out of business. Not only that but they violated the conditions they agreed to on the NBC/Universal deal as well. Those are biggest issue the regulators had was that Comcast was already engaging in anti competitive behavior and that allowing them to grow would only make the problem worse.



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kpfx Member Re: Suprise said by techguru306: Example Comcast intentionally let their peering point degrade until Netflix could barely stream in SD.



Saying that Comcast held them ransom is glossing over the real details of how peering works. And even more so, this wan't exclusive to Comcast either. Netflix also signed direct peering agreements with AT&T and Verizon. That's quite a one-sided view. Peering is a two party relationship and it was Netflix's choice to abandon their previous CDN providers to go with a cheaper route (Cogent/Level-3) that didn't have the capacity and wanted free upgrades.Saying that Comcast held them ransom is glossing over the real details of how peering works. And even more so, this wan't exclusive to Comcast either. Netflix also signed direct peering agreements with AT&T and Verizon.

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Cincinnati, OH techguru306 Member Re: Suprise No it is not. Comcast's customers requested that traffic so Comcast should pay for any upgrades for that reason not Netflix. Comcast would not update until Netflix paid their ransom.



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said by IowaCowboy: And guess what, they'll have to placate regulators so they'll have to divest markets so déjà vu all over again. Hopefully Maine will be divested as I don't want Charter up there should I decide to move into grandma's house up there if I inherit it. I'd rather them divest it to Mediacom or Comcast.



Or maybe they'll sell TWC piecemeal to several different cablecos like Comcast, Mediacom, Cablevision, Charter, and Cox. That seems like the only way to placate regulators in today's consumer friendly regulatory market. That's what they did with AT&T Broadband with Iowa going to Mediacom and the Northeast going to Comcast. No Charter is going to do that because in order to fund the buy out it will need the money from selling some of the markets to others.



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USA 1 recommendation ham3843 Member No means NO! DOJ block this merger as well. The arrogance with these Ivory Tower hacks never ends.



These brASS tacks just saw the Comcast - TWC merger shot down and here

they are back again just a day later? Really.



DOJ needs to cock block these ass hats firmly.

your moderator at work hidden : Trolling

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Re: No means NO! DOJ block this merger as well. said by ham3843: The arrogance with these Ivory Tower hacks never ends.



These brASS tacks just saw the Comcast - TWC merger shot down and here

they are back again just a day later? Really.



DOJ needs to cock block these ass hats firmly. The reason Comcast's Time Warner Cable merger was blocked due to the fact that it would give them to much market power especially in broadband. Not to mention they were fined on occasion for not honoring the terms and conditions of the NBC/Universal Deal. The final nail in the coffin was their nightmare customer service stories making it to the media. If Charter Communications bought Time Warner Cable their size would not give them that much market power. Comcast would still have more market power than Time Warner Cable and Charter Communications Combined. So their is no legal way for them to block a Time Warner Cable Charter Deal because they would not have enough power to have a monopoly on cable in the United States. They might have to make some concession possibly but the deal would be approved if Charter Communications can get a deal done.



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@charter.com Jay Arr Anon Deja Vous Maybe this time Charter will get that merger agreement. They need injection of money though, and they need better executive management all around. Charter has been hemorrhaging their best engineering talent since they went to the horrible 'Centers of Excellence'... more like excrement, really. So many really talented engineers gone from all areas, and a possible merger in the future... could spell disaster or success, but it depends a LOT on whether they can get rid of Scott "CoE" Weber and put senior mgmt in place that knows how to build a company rather than build an investor pool to fund excremental ideas.



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USA ham3843 Member You corporate cheerleaders are going to get another surprise.

they already set a precedent.......YESTERDAY.



The only reason Comcast when public" first" is because the DOJ told them

NO in a private communication. DOJ will NOT approve this merger of Charter - TWC either, after allthey already set a precedent.......YESTERDAY.The only reason Comcast when public" first" is because the DOJ told themNO in a private communication.

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techguru306 Member Re: You corporate cheerleaders are going to get another surprise. You have to have a reason to deny the merger how would The FCC and DOJ block the merger?



The Combined entity would not have enough market power for a monopoly.



Charter Communications has not used it's market power anti competitively.



So if they can not deny the merger with those reasons how can they legally block the deal if it would happen?

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Snohomish, WA 1 recommendation tshirt Premium Member If charter couldn't afford TWC before... ...how can they do this PLUS the upgrades both plants need?



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join:2012-09-20 why60loss Premium Member Re: If charter couldn't afford TWC before... said by tshirt: ...how can they do this PLUS the upgrades both plants need?



But that is fine to many, because at lest the "evil" Comcast didn't "win".



Guess we are looking at a new darkage of the internet in the US and when people ask why does our internet suck I will point to 4/24/2015 as why. They won't be able to pay for upgrades and they will just sell off some markets to Comcast and others to help pay for this deal.But that is fine to many, because at lest the "evil" Comcast didn't "win".Guess we are looking at a new darkage of the internet in the US and when people ask why does our internet suck I will point to 4/24/2015 as why.

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Oh.... that's right today open Internet competition has the USA leading the world in Internet service both in speed and price.... right?



I love history revisionists! ... they make me laugh.



Everybody knows monopolies create a good environment for competitive pricing and pushing of new technology. :-( said by why60loss: said by tshirt: ...how can they do this PLUS the upgrades both plants need?



But that is fine to many, because at lest the "evil" Comcast didn't "win".



Guess we are looking at a new darkage of the internet in the US and when people ask why does our internet suck I will point to 4/24/2015 as why. They won't be able to pay for upgrades and they will just sell off some markets to Comcast and others to help pay for this deal.But that is fine to many, because at lest the "evil" Comcast didn't "win".Guess we are looking at a new darkage of the internet in the US and when people ask why does our internet suck I will point to 4/24/2015 as why. Funny... what do you think is responsible for the terrible internet sucking we have today in the USA?Oh.... that's right today open Internet competition has the USA leading the world in Internet service both in speed and price.... right?I love history revisionists! ... they make me laugh.Everybody knows monopolies create a good environment for competitive pricing and pushing of new technology. :-(



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join:2012-09-20 why60loss Premium Member Now the smaller dog is coming to cut them up Charter does not have the funds to buy all of TWC in a deal that will make the TWC shareholders happy. (Charter will need a $50 billion deal and they couldn't even do $45 billion before and the deal they tried had Comcast getting NC and other areas to help pay for the deal.)



I think Charter with some help from maybe Comcast or other cable ISP's will make a bid for TWC like before but higher.



The new TWC/Charter will then be loaded with debt and the capital will dry up for upgrades for some time. The shareholders will take the money from the deal all the way to the bank and have a nice day.

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2 edits techguru306 Member Now the smaller dog is coming to cut them up said by why60loss: Charter does not have the funds to buy all of TWC in a deal that will make the TWC shareholders happy. (Charter will need a $50 billion deal and they couldn't even do $45 billion before and the deal they tried had Comcast getting NC and other areas to help pay for the deal.)



I think Charter with some help from maybe Comcast or other cable ISP's will make a bid for TWC like before but higher.



The new TWC/Charter will then be loaded with debt and the capital will dry up for upgrades for some time. The shareholders will take the money from the deal all the way to the bank and have a nice day. Charter Communicaitons could always get a loan from a bank to pay for the deal. If Charter was unable to pay the bank then the bank would have assets they could sell. That should help them get a loan because they would have asset for collateral. They would easily get their money back by selling a combined Charter and Time Warner Cable if it were to fail. But you are right major upgrade's would be on hold till they paid off their debt for the transaction. But the markets who currently have 50 MB internet should be able to be upgraded to 100MB internet with the existing equipment and completing the digital transition they should be able to do that even with the debt they would initially incur. Time Warner Cable shared those concerns as well. I believe Charter best bet would be to get a loan from a bank to pay for the deal.

techguru306 techguru306 Member Does not look good for a Time Warner Cable Charter Deal



»www.nasdaq.com/article/c ··· 24-00740 It does not look good for a Charter Communication merger here is an article from nasdaq. It appears Time Warner Cable is concerned with the debt Charter would acquire from this deal and how it would effect the stock if they were to combine.



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»www.wired.com/2013/07/we ··· etition/ End local government monopoly control of rights of way.



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techguru306 Member Re: I would rather Charter said by Selenia: TWC is destined to go to hell because they want out. Charter still won't own as much as Comcast currently does and there won't be the issue of them controlling most broadband connections in the US, unlike a combined TWC and Comcast. Charter wasn't really all that bad when I lived in one of their service areas. Like Cox, the cap is mostly unenforced except on really congested nodes. I agree. It is worse in Ohio and Kentucky it is like Time Warner Cable wants nothing to do with those markets.

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From one john's bed to the next. @.@



I get the feeling that no matter who takes over, we'll be paying more for less.



What I lost from the most recent change from Insight to TWC: Free usenet access via Giganews; prices ballooned for TV and internet access. In KY, we've gone from TeleCable --> TCI --> @Home (Internet only) --> Intermedia --> Insight --> TWC. Now there's the prospect of another company taking over.From one john's bed to the next. @.@I get the feeling that no matter who takes over, we'll be paying more for less.What I lost from the most recent change from Insight to TWC: Free usenet access via Giganews; prices ballooned for TV and internet access.



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USA ham3843 Member Another greedfest which will die on the vine. Precedent has been set. With the recent shooting down of the Comcast TWC merger the precedent has been set in stone for sometime to come, the DOJ and FCC now realize the error of their ways with the monster created by the Comcast takeover of NBC and the disaster it has wrought. No more deep pockets for the greedy few brass tacks and their

obnoxious and damaging take over and merger antics.

WrzWrz

join:2002-08-23

Fort Thomas, KY WrzWrz Member Not liking this either Charter has a softcap policy. Even though its apparently very selectively enforced, I have no cap of any kind with TWC and I don't want that to change.



It seems that if anyone acquires TWC I'll be paying more for less.