On today’s show we’ll discuss the all-important issue of economy and the idea of a universal basic income. First former SEIU president Andy Stern joins us for an in-depth discussion of his book where he lays out a bold vision for the economy. It’s called Raising the Floor: How a Universal Basic Income Can Renew Our Economy and Rebuild the American Dream. Then, one of Europe’s most prominent young thinkers, Rutger Bregman, joins us to discuss his book, that complements Stern’s really well. It’s called Utopia For Realists: The Case of a Universal Basic Income, Open Borders, and a 15-Hour Workweek.

Hosted by Sonali Kolhatkar.