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"BREAKING: MIKE CONNELL, GOP 'IT GURU', KILLED IN SOLO PLANE CRASH"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... james aka ADAP2K said on 12/20/2008 @ 12:17 am PT...





More related articles / videos here http://adap2k.blogspot.c...l-michael-dead-ohio.html

Ps, I broke this story...You can thank me later Karl!

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Lottakatz said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:02 am PT...





"we will withhold comment until more is known. " Not being a respected journalist or being of particularly high ethical repute I will recall a line I read (not verbatim, I'm sliding into senility too) that went (very close to) 'Coincidence? Coincidence is a device used by writers with little imagination.' I guess another suicide would have been too suspicious.

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... TEDEGER said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:20 am PT...





Wellstone, Kennedy, historically goimg back to Dag Hammarskjold, it seems to me that aircraft operated by important political figures are entirely too unreliable, Frankly, were I an important pol, and I had to get somewhere, I'D DRIVE! (I HOPE OBAMA keeps his feet on the ground for the next month!

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Carol said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:35 am PT...





Read this too! It's about the Franken-Coleman race and weird stuff going on beforehand and on election night! http://www.opednews.com/...E-Nelson-081110-788.html We need to PURSUE this!

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Carol said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:41 am PT...





In my mind there is NO DOUBT that Wellstone was killed to make way for Coleman and that Coleman's election was rigged in 2002. AND I do NOT believe that Pawlenty's close win over Mike Hatch in 2006 was real either!

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... molly said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:42 am PT...





This will give high ranking neo cons pause. We don't need you now. bye bye Airplane crashes are not just for democrats in our special kind of democracy.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... mick said on 12/20/2008 @ 2:21 am PT...





what a fricken country you have ...un fricken believable...

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... czaragorn said on 12/20/2008 @ 3:33 am PT...





Talk about taking a fall!

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 3:53 am PT...





Is there any question now that it's rigged for you skeptics out there?

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... DangerMouse said on 12/20/2008 @ 4:29 am PT...





For the record single engine planes are not the safest. However, Connell was very familiar with both the plane and the airport. On the ground at the time of the crash it was clear cloudy skies, 33deg, 13mph winds from the WNW, and it might have just begun to mist.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... edward said on 12/20/2008 @ 5:24 am PT...





Be kind and careful what you say. The man was my uncle and a great man in many ways. He in no way participated in any thing involving fraud. He was a strict man of faith who travelled on his own will a couple times a year to help impoverished with his entire family. The man was a man of love and diligence and passion for his work. The world will miss Michael Connell. My heart hurts for my aunt, his wife and kids who are left behind. May God bless them and him in the afterlife. I was there to witness him bring New Media from his basement in Cleveland first hand to where he had landed up until recent months. He did nothing but bring good to the world of political presence on the web and in the world. He always followed a strict code of ethics governed by his faith with the God and Catholicism. His Nephew and idealizer

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 5:56 am PT...





yeah, I won't say anything, except...Bullshit!!! Some assholes way of trying to not let us talk about this

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:08 am PT...





Anyone remember the inflatable life raft on someones campaign plane that somehow inflated and gummed up the tail controls? It's more than possible that Mike was a pawn in this trillion dollar heist of Murca, but he could have possibly led us to the bones.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:27 am PT...





Maybe "Edward" knows who the Corporation Sierra-November Aviation is headed by and who funds them...Calling Daniel Hopsicker!!! come in please!

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... john said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:32 am PT...





dear edward,

eva braun thought hitler was a nice guy too...

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... DangerMouse said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:44 am PT...





Godwin's??? Really John? You are pathetic. Edward no one doubts Connell's sincerity and passion. Though some might argue that some of his enterprises follow a more Rovian type of ethics, like the Swiftboat websites. And even the destruction of all the White House emails which your uncle was intimately involved with. (google Almacy and GovTech) I don't think anyone has ever claimed he wasn't a good person or a good Christian, just that he might have done things he thought served a greater good. It is a tragedy what happened and hopefully some audio from the ATC will give more insight into what happened. What kind of mechanical problems caused this accident because it wasn't weather or pilot error. I hope everyone will pray for his wife and children.

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... oldturk said on 12/20/2008 @ 7:24 am PT...





Isn't KKKarl rove a lucky sun of a gun. Each and every time the executioner warms up to sing his song - a "muzzle" happens along to shut the executioner (of rove) up. What a lucky, lucky boy,.. what an astounding coincidence. The big guy in purgatory - watches over KKKarl rove every second of every day.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 12/20/2008 @ 7:34 am PT...





Edward, sorry for your personal loss, but only the truth shall set you free. That is, the absolute truth, not propaganda spin. I'm also sorry to say, it seems your Uncle fell for the latter.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Nunyabiz said on 12/20/2008 @ 7:55 am PT...





GOP going down and eating its young on the way out. Now if we can just get a few circular firing squads going some things might actually start "Changing" for the better. However until 100% truth comes out about 9/11 I don't think there can be much change.

Hopefully the April Gallop case IF it makes it to court might start that ball rolling.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Elliott said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:16 am PT...





Initial reports, incredibly, allege that he ran out of fuel. Impossible.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... Nunyabiz said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:19 am PT...





Brad/99: you might find this interesting. Larisa Alexandrovna was in close contact with McConnell.

She say he was being threatened. http://www.atlargely.com...ne-crash-last-night.html

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... Soul Rebel said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:56 am PT...





They're not even creative about it anymore... Carnahan

Wellstone

Connell

All so convenient. Like we used to do in South America. Torrijos in Panama. Aguilera in Ecuador. Now I'm wondering what Payne Stewart knew.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:59 am PT...





allege that he ran out of fuel. In all probability he most likely did, with all the loose fittings on the fuel lines. Could explain

the fire as the fuel leaked into the fuselage. I think "whacked" is the term they used in the olden days. I figure that the investigation will probably show that some other (newly) dead guy did it...Like Bruce Ivins

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... DangerMouse said on 12/20/2008 @ 9:29 am PT...





Shenanigans. 100% bullcrap. Point to me one place that says he ran out of fuel. Links please or shut it. The only thing we know is one neighbor said they heard the engine cutting in and out and the plane's wing planted in the front yard of the house before hitting the flag pole.

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 12/20/2008 @ 11:19 am PT...





How convenient, that whenever a story like this breaks, someone like Edward comes along "long time reader; first time commentor", to distract. I'm sure Connell's nephew reads Brad Blog all the time. Funny he never commented before. The overall picture is this: when you look at each individual Rove-connected incident, you can explain away any one of them. Oh, the plane happened to crash! When you stack together ALL the Rove-related incidents, then it's impossible they're all accidents. PERIOD!!!! I the next Rove-related "accident" going to be an "accident", too? The next 100???

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/20/2008 @ 11:51 am PT...





Was Connell even a pilot?

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... Emily Levy said on 12/20/2008 @ 11:56 am PT...





Agent 99,

Yes, Connell was a pilot.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/20/2008 @ 12:20 pm PT...





Thanks, Em. I was almost dead of fatigue when I started to try to track that down last night, and I dropped before I could get to it. Because... well... it seems to me that he wouldn't have gotten into a small airplane willingly, let alone fly one, with the threat, the very, very credible threat, hanging over his head, but maybe he was so absorbed in his nerd work and faith that he truly didn't realize the dimensions of that threat...? It's almost a damn slogan nowadays whenever anybody does anything virtuous, or even threatens to, in government: Whoa, better not be gettin' on any small planes....

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... DangerMouse said on 12/20/2008 @ 12:37 pm PT...





So more digging and Connell's 1997 Piper Saratoga should have a range of at least 800 miles. His flight was only 300 miles. There is no way he ran out of gas. There could have been mechanical problems or icing. One things is that based on FlightAware altitudes, he may not have had enough height to be able to glide into the airport. He was only about 2000-3000 ft up and about six miles from airport, so too far to glide in assuming the engine stopped (of course ice will limit gliding even more).

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 12/20/2008 @ 12:45 pm PT...





It only goes to show like I said, the FBI/DHS/CIA/NSA/Pentagon are miserable failures. When people are yanked from Government jobs or starting to be forced out because of corruption, their time is up, or they step down; instead of immediatly yanking their security clearances, denying access to government buildings, grabbing up their computers and going through it all with a fine tooth comb, they instead allow them into the buildings, back to their computers, full security clearance access, onto their networks, making their votes, doing their crap. It's sugar in the gas tank.

It's a wrench in the gears.

It's handfuls of FOD thrown into the intake without a cover! All the laws were passed to snoop on us, and take away our rights, choreograph us into little domestic terrorists, meanwhile when the corruption instead comes from within, or oath breaking, they turn their heads and ignore it. This will end up being another giant question mark in history. If Bush admininstration people do the research, how can it really be trusted? Even if actually was pilot error, there will never be trust as to the final reason.

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 12:46 pm PT...





Well I know that everything will be under control in this investigation when the FEEBS show up...snick...snicker...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:01 pm PT...





Clearly nobody is taking IT security seriously in our government. They are all too happy to dish out laws for us, but when it comes to their own shit they fail. When jobs that someone does are bad. e.g. missing email, webhosting political sites and election results. (seems like there were other problems too) Anyway when someone is doing a job that bad, and in a place like that, and is being questioned about it and says he's being threatened. Why wasn't everything brought to a halt to find out? Why wasn't he protected or arrested? Not doing that is like saying you don't care about security. Just the machinery and laws behind it to be used for your own agenda. For all we know the guy could been wiping /var/log /var/cache /var/mail and /var/spool for someone.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:06 pm PT...





I wonder how long until this makes it to slashdot? I can't wait.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... PH said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:14 pm PT...





Sierra November aviation is listed at the same address as Mike Connell's company "New Media Communications". Assuming he just had the FAA registration sent there under another name

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:17 pm PT...





I'm starting to believe that God really does look out for Karl and George. Go to hell, God!

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:25 pm PT...





er Larry, I think it's the other guy

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]

... Phyllis Huster said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:32 pm PT...





Does anyone know why Connell was in DC, apparently that is why he was in a plane returning home?

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... Jim Cirile said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:40 pm PT...





Carol: Immediately after "election" 2004, Norm Coleman was vociferously calling out election fraud "conspiracy theorists." He took point on this, and I immediately knew he was a Neocon election theft front man. That of course meant that Wellstone was targeted and the Coleman election was obviously stolen. Christ, if you assume criminality, this stuff then becomes detective work 101, not conspiracy theory. Sadly, one has to also assume that someone got to Kucinich, too, who's about as good as we have right now. Kucinich's planned 9/11 hearings were killed last year and have not been rescheduled. Who killed them? Did Kucinich himself do it out of fear? Did Pelosi warn him or order him off? Of course, corporate media, if you've read this far, go back into your shells and just assume we're all batshit crazy. Don't let things like the fact that our country is run by confessed war criminals make you think that our leaders have anything but our best interest at heart. It's all just mistakes and bad intel. Certainly none of the rapacious, malevolent behavior of the Bush crew was deliberate. Mistakes happen. Planes crash. Steel skyscrapers mysteriously implode every day. Millions of people in foreign countries are accidentally wiped out when we invade. No one could have foreseen any of it (except for the people who planned it.) Hey, don't you have a missing girl or a celebrity tantrum to report on? Sure you do.

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]

... Phyllis Huster said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:51 pm PT...





reminding folks of election related "curious" deaths... Athan Gibbs * Suspicious car accident, believed break lines were cut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ewsDxXQD4 Raymond Lemme * Florida Inspector General's office, suspicious suicide in Valdosta GA

https://bradblog.com/?p=1244 And threats against their lives (Andy Stephenson), etc. The list of dangers wrought on election integrity activists is long indeed. The power machine led by Karl Rove, supported by the Bush crime family and funded by the Fundamental Christians will continue to kill to protect their tragic little waning power base.

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]

... Jeannie Dean (not in) FL-13 said on 12/20/2008 @ 1:55 pm PT...





So damn sad. I have been looking for more information re: Connell's Nov. 3rd deposition for quite some time. Does anyone know if Connell was able to get anything on the record in court? Have any transcripts/ videos/ articles been released? When was this case scheduled to be on the docket?

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/20/2008 @ 2:32 pm PT...





Athan Gibbs... I've been so needing a good cry. Works wonders on shot nerves....

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 12/20/2008 @ 2:39 pm PT...





Hopefully he didn't die in vain. He was big enough to come out and at least point those interested in THE TRUTH.

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]

... KestrelBrighteyes said on 12/20/2008 @ 2:48 pm PT...





Jayzus.. I'm trying not to jump to conclusions - after all, there's still an FAA investigation, so we don't know what happened. But if you've ever been up in a small plane before with an experienced pilot, you know how thorough their pre-flight check is. The best we can hope for is that people with integrity and NO TIES TO THE GOP OR ROVE impounded the parts of the plane, will keep it beyond the reach of anyone who stands to gain from his death, and won't let go of this until we find out the truth. (And don't tell me he ran out of gas, I'm not buying it) BTW, Edward, if you're for real (and I know you understand our skepticism if you've been reading here), my heart goes out to you and your family for your loss. If you cared as much about your uncle as you say you do, you should take the lead in pushing for a thorough investigation. This isn't the first time someone close to exposing those connected with election fraud issues has suddenly died, after it came out that they were gathering evidence or were about to testify. However noble you may have thought your uncle to be, he was associating with some very shady people - and had apparently already been threatened by those people. Make no mistake, there are those who would consider him expendable if they thought his death provided a way to cover their tracks.

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/20/2008 @ 3:04 pm PT...





KB He might have run out of gas if his plane had been tampered with, a miniature explosive attached somewhere strategically in its engine, and since he was returning home from somewhere else, he easily mightn't have checked at all.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]

... OhioRoads said on 12/20/2008 @ 4:15 pm PT...





I worked on the Recount. Am just sitting here shaking as I read this. Guess I hoped in my heart of hearts that it really WAS somehow a fair election, even though we all knew it was stolen. How far does this corruption go? Who will be next? I guess the best advice is to do like Clint Curtis and sing out loud and fast when you have information. Then if you get whacked, everybody will know it. How many more small plane crashes and "suicides" are we going to believe in this country??? Of course being vocal doesn't mean safety for everyone. I know even Andy Stephenson feared that he was whacked. Cancer can be induced, and the US government is know to have experimented in such. OMFG --- what are we???

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]

... FreedomOfInformationAct said on 12/20/2008 @ 4:33 pm PT...





I don't believe in coincidence, the timing of this is highly suspicious, given the nature of the bush cabal high crimes, treason and war crimes, don't you think?

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:13 pm PT...





you may research the plane by owner or n number or type of plane at the following website. get the n number

and look it up here. don't trust initial description of the plane type becuase there are often wrong.

many planes are registered under company names and regiatered in other states for tax purposes too

http://www.landings.com/.../search_nnr-complex.html here is a list of 391 piper registered in Ohio but again don't trust the plane type (especially model) from initial reports and state will probably be Delaware becuase of corporate shelter laws regardless of where plane is based. http://www.landings.com/...ret=1&fullsearch=YES here are 6 piper Saratogas registered in ohio.

http://www.landings.com/...ret=1&fullsearch=YES anyone find a crash photo with n numbers clearly visible?

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:22 pm PT...





Stark county coronor quoted has saying briefcased on board. (someone better get a court order to freeze that stuff fast)

and receipts from breakfast in Washington from Friday in his wallet. Also witnesses heard him flying in fast and he attempted to land. doesn't sound like ice on wings which makes you drop like a stone without much control since wings lose lift. http://www.cantonrep.com...s-in-Lake-Township-crash

"

“The plane was just torn apart,” said Harry Campbell, chief investigator with the Stark County coroner’s office. He estimated debris from the aircraft was scattered over about 100 yards. The aircraft apparently had flown out of Pennsylvania, said Campbell. Stark County Coroner P.S. Murthy was on the scene and is scheduled to perform an autopsy on Connell today. Campbell found receipts in Connell’s wallet showing he had breakfast Friday in Washington, D.C. Connell was dressed in a business suit, he said. Two suitcases and other personal items had been on the plane, Campbell said. Neighbors heard the crash and called 911. Nancy Beisler, who lives across the street, said she was inside when she heard the plane “buzzing” over her home. “I thought something exploded and (my husband) thought something happened to me,” she said. “I said, ‘I’m OK’ and he said, ‘Call 911, it’s something across the street,’ ” Beisler said. “... And unfortunately it was all flames.” “You could tell it was very close and it kept getting closer and closer,” neighbor Christina Pastore-Bucher said. “It buzzed right over the house, and you heard a crash — it was an impact.” “It had instantly burst into flames.” Noting that fuel may have spilled, Pastore-Bucher said, “the fire was kind of going to both sides.” Pastore-Bucher is used to hearing planes fly over, but “this one, you knew it was so fast, it was so low.” "

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:30 pm PT...





Akron-Canton Airport (CAK) Celebrates Runway 5/23 Halfway Point

Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:00am EDT

http://www.reuters.com/a...+12-Aug-2008+PRN20080812 all about the airport

http://en.wikipedia.org/...-Canton_Regional_Airport strange that runway he was apparently attempting to land at was listed intis article as not halfway finished yet in Aug 2008 and not due to openuntil 2010! http://www.akroncantonai...runwayjobisoverthehu.htm private pilot navigation aides http://www.akroncantonai...cantonairportnavaids.htm

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/20/2008 @ 6:42 pm PT...





Below i have extracted apparently his aircraft rating according to FAA database. he was instrument rated so very experienced (unlike john Kennedy who was not instrument rated and so got disoriented in fog) (another story said pilots name was Michael L. connell and this is the only l of a search of all michael connell's.) : CONNELL, MICHAEL LOUIS

Airman's Address : 4266 IRA RD

AKRON, OH, 44333-1172

FAA Region : Great Lakes

Date of Medical : Oct, 2007

Class of Medical : 3

Expiration of Class 3 : Oct, 2009

Airman Certificates : Private Pilot

Airplane Single Engine Land

Instrument Airplane this was the search http://www.landings.com/..._ret=100&start_ret=1

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/20/2008 @ 7:05 pm PT...





flight track is here

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N9299N some are reporting this is the plane. N-number : N9299N

Aircraft Serial Number : 3257018

Aircraft Manufacturer : PIPER

Model : PA-32R-301T

Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING

Model : TI0-540 SER

Aircraft Year : 1997

Owner Name : SIERRA-NOVEMBER AVIATION INC

Owner Address : 3046 BRECKSVILLE RD

RICHFIELD, OH, 44286-9399

Type of Owner : Corporation

Registration Date : 21-Aug-2007

Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard

Approved Operations : Normal

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]

... bob said on 12/20/2008 @ 7:18 pm PT...





Edward

please check out this site , it will help you know your uncle better.04

My prayer's to your family.

http://velvetrevolution.us/

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]

... FreedomOfInformationAct said on 12/20/2008 @ 7:26 pm PT...





Possible evidence Karl Rove threatened now deceased IT Guru just before he is called to testify against him? Rove Threatened GOP IT Guru If He Does Not 'Take the Fall' for Election Fraud in Ohio, Says Attorney

Blogged by Brad Friedman on 7/24/2008 3:59PM Letter Sent to Attorney General Mukasey Requesting 'Protection for Mr. Connell and His Family From This Reported Attempt to Intimidate a Witness' After Tip from 'Credible Source' https://bradblog.com/?p=6214/p

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/20/2008 @ 7:27 pm PT...





Google satellite photo of airport http://maps.google.com/m...mp;g=kcak&iwloc=addr

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]

... Soul Rebel said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:02 pm PT...





Thanks for all the data George. Re comment #48 and all the flames from spilled fuel... if he ran out of gas...those flames wouldn't be there, right? This is just a layman's comment because I know squat about airplane impacts (other than jetliners don't disintegrate upon impact in PA or DC, AND that jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel, that much I know!) so is that a reasonable point to make, to rule out the 'ran out of fuel' argument?

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:32 pm PT...





Geo re:#51 Is there any reason that it took him an hour longer on the return flight to Akron than to go to MD. the day before?, he was flying way slower (about half the speed) on the trip back...Was the weather bad? Why was there no track on him after 3000 ft. before crash when the other landing tracked him all the way down?

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]

... ccoaler said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:45 pm PT...





well, the only guy who can "kill" Roves IT guru is Bush Sr. His son is too close to Rove and he is furthermore a lame duck. My bet: Coleman complained about connell at Bush Sr.

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]

... Niles Davenport said on 12/20/2008 @ 8:50 pm PT...





Republicans do have a knack for tying up all the loose ends, don't they? Too bad, Connell may have finally been ready to talk.

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]

... mandy said on 12/20/2008 @ 9:26 pm PT...





I bet they find airplane parts at the crash site. I bet they are able to verify those parts as the plane that crashed. To this day....not one single piece of airliner debris has EVER been verified in any way from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations from 911. Not one piece! There are 3.1 million pieces that can identify a standard 757. Thats almost 13 million pieces and not ONE SINGLE PIECE has ever been verified outside of the Bush regime. NONE. ps....videos, photos, and witnesses have never counted as evidence of a plane crash. Only verifiable wreckage counts. The WMD's in Iraq had videos, photos, and witnesses until the world wanted to verify a single piece of WMD. Then the lie fell apart. If these criminals are willing to kill millions based on staged and conspired lie....some of their own "clan" means nothing to them.

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]

... ccoaler said on 12/20/2008 @ 10:11 pm PT...





MOAS 7-may-2008 One week after the crash outside Caracas, Venezuela of a twin-engine Piper Navajo (N6463L), an air of intrigue surrounds almost everything about the flight, including the plane's ownership, passengers, and pilot. Woven into one small story about a plane crash in Venezuela that killed seven people are visible threads from two perennial American cover-ups: one surrounding vote fraud, and one covering-up the CIA's role in drug trafficking. For anyone interested in the news that gets left out of the newspaper, its' a Perfect Storm. The Mother of All Scandals. The downed plane's relevance to the ongoing story of vote fraud in America involves the identity of it's passenger, Jose Alfredo Anzola, a 34-year old founder of Smartmatic, a Venezuela-based election company whose American subsidiary counted one in every three votes in the 2004 Presidential election, while engaged the whole time in heated controversy over allegations the firm counting America's votes had hidden ties to—of all people—Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez. The connection between last week's plane crash and the ongoing saga of CIA Drug trafficking begins 43-year old Mario Donadi Gafaro, the veteran drug pilot at the controls of the twin engine plane.

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]

... karen from illinois said on 12/20/2008 @ 10:21 pm PT...





carol @ #4 posted a link,in part it says,

" During this process a number of irregularities were discovered. At four different points in the night vote tallies for Al Franken decreased significantly even as tallies for Norm Coleman continued to increase from the previous timed tally. These four points are indicated on the graph below by the arrows. Decreases in Al Franken's tally of 7903 votes occurred at 2:04 am, 105 votes at 3:42 am, 9529 votes at 3:58 am, and 3313 votes at 5:20 am. A total of 20,850 votes appear to have been subtracted from Al Franken's total throughout the evening. At only one point that we could determine was there a decrease in Norm Coleman's vote tally. This occurred at 2:09 am where 4252 votes were subtracted." we r seeing this evidence more and more,bbv has found similiar losing votes and impossible numbers recently in california,louisiana and other places the time slices basically show ,it doesnt matter what the machine records as numbers can be adjusted at any point to get the predetermined result i can only hope that enough of us realize what is going on that somehow democracy will survive different times when i have been frustrated with being so powerless,posting impossible numbers and peops not commenting.....99 explained,we have seen so many "impossible" numbers we cant pay attention any more well they can "unfuel" planes in mid flight,suicide witnesses but THEY can not hide the numbers being manipulated ..good post carol

COMMENT #62 [Permalink]

... nunya said on 12/21/2008 @ 12:21 am PT...





*sigh*

I dream of the

Rove Frogmarch

COMMENT #63 [Permalink]

... 72dawg said on 12/21/2008 @ 12:28 am PT...





Don't forget some earlier crashes at key moments. Senator John Heinz (R) of Pennsylvania April 4 1991 (Desert Storm days) - and six others are killed when a helicopter collides with their plane over Merion, Pennsylvania. A small curiosity, from Tenet's biography "From 1982-1985, Tenet worked on the staff of Pennsylvania Senator John Heinz as a legislative assistant covering national security and energy issues, and as legislative director."

COMMENT #64 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 12/21/2008 @ 3:22 am PT...





Wilburrr... ~ This is much too convenient ... they musta hired the same guys that did the otha high wire acts . . .

COMMENT #65 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 12/21/2008 @ 3:26 am PT...





Wilburrr... ~ This is much too convenient ... they musta hired the same guys goons that did the otha high wire acts . . .

COMMENT #66 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/21/2008 @ 5:04 am PT...





Was there radio contact with him in the minutes leading up to the crash? If not, I suspect we'll have toxicology reports for public view...What am I saying? Feebs, the masters of the cover up. Besides, they must have a few modern devices to get people back on the ground in a hurry if need be. Link

COMMENT #67 [Permalink]

... Roberto Sumatra-Bosch said on 12/21/2008 @ 7:05 am PT...





Connell's wife is next. She needs to grab the kids and vanish. Rove is counting on that - or has he has planned her disappearance already. She probably knows as much as he does about the salient facts.

COMMENT #68 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 12/21/2008 @ 7:41 am PT...





Roberto Sumatra-Bosch ~ That's one hellova point !

COMMENT #69 [Permalink]

... Roberto Sumatra-Bosch said on 12/21/2008 @ 9:33 am PT...





Rove won't blink at wasting her or the kids. This might be his way of warning her. Brad and, actually every reporter in the western world, needs to get her to issue an affidavit telling what she knows before RoveCo takes her out - or starts picking off her kids.

COMMENT #70 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 12/21/2008 @ 9:48 am PT...





Has anyone heard a word from john "horse face" / " every vote will be counted" kerry . . .

COMMENT #71 [Permalink]

... Phyllis Huster said on 12/21/2008 @ 10:27 am PT...





in the immortal words of Cliff Arnebeck, the attorney who has relentlessly pursued the truth on this, at the Nashville conference, and I quote Cliff: "John Kerry took a walk"... in reference to Kerry's unwillingness to participate in the lawsuit that would have demanded a full recount. Many of us know how cooperative the democratic party has been in these election fraud issues.

COMMENT #72 [Permalink]

... JohnHKennedy said on 12/21/2008 @ 11:55 am PT...





Perhaps his death is the CIA buddies of the Bush crimes family "taking care of loose ends"? Scary thought, but scarier that it is possible and believable.

COMMENT #73 [Permalink]

... 72dawg said on 12/21/2008 @ 12:20 pm PT...





I hope Obama makes it to inauguration. He's not quite bullet proofed, but for the B gang he might be with:

# The Vice President Joe Biden

# Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi

# President pro tempore of the Senate Robert Byrd

# Secretary of State Hillary Clinton However, if he is assassinated, what happens? Cheney and Rove (whoops Bush) declares martial law? Or are they so fat on gutting the treasury that they don't care anymore?

COMMENT #74 [Permalink]

... creeksneakers2 said on 12/21/2008 @ 2:01 pm PT...





Edward: I'm sorry your family has to go through all this as such a tragic time. The Internet can be very cruel and facts and logic can't compete with mystery and conspiracy theories. I don't know what your uncle did or didn't do, but I can't see how he could have had anything to do with stealing the 2004 election in Ohio. A fix would have to take place at the precinct level and Michael wasn't even involved with precinct level. So all this other stuff on the web about threats from Karl Rove must be BS. Anyway, if I can figure this out, so can others. I hope you uncle's name is soon cleared.

COMMENT #75 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/21/2008 @ 2:24 pm PT...





Yeah, Einstein Creeksneakers, you can "figure this out" because either, [1] you have ignored the facts, or [2] you want others to ignore them. On top of this there is almost no chance "Edward" is who he says he is. No one here wished Connell or his family ill, we wished and still do for truth to will out and justice to prevail. In fact, we had been insisting on Mr. Connell's protection and were ignored. So kindly go sneak some other creek if you're unwilling to do the reading and get with the program.

COMMENT #76 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/21/2008 @ 2:30 pm PT...



COMMENT #77 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/21/2008 @ 2:52 pm PT...





Re different speeds to and from destination - probably fighting a head wind in one direction.

Re why they lost track at 3000 ft - some radar stations probably lose aircraft when they get below a certain height.

just guesses Someone said pitot tube detects ice on wing. Not true. Pitot tube detects airspeed by testing the air pressure in the forward direction with the air pressure from the side.

Either hole can be easily clogged ( beleive it or not bee (like yellow jackets) heads fit snuggly in there and often clog them)and it is one of the most important things to check on preflight and any good pilot does it. one could get clogged by ice though. would have to check weather conditions at the time to see if descending through icing conditions was an issue. could also check with other planes pilots arriving and departing at the same time.

COMMENT #78 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/21/2008 @ 2:59 pm PT...





someone asked if it would still catch fire if it was out of fuel.

I don't know but someone else said that even if out of fuel there is still SOME fuel in the tanks and therefore could still explode.

Witnesses as quoted from a news account said it burst into flames after crashing however i know not to trust accuracy of statements made by accident witnesses- often they are wrong and often they are also misquoted by papers.

COMMENT #79 [Permalink]

... blakmira said on 12/21/2008 @ 4:05 pm PT...





RE: "I HOPE OBAMA keeps his feet on the ground for the next month!" and

"I hope Obama makes it to inauguration. He's not quite bullet proofed, but for the B gang he might be with" Wow. Are you people doped up on prescription meds or something? You think Obama & his assorted thugs have nothing to do with the corruption, cover-ups and murders of the elite? How do you think he got elected in the first place? Becoming the President nowadays is a very private club. You have to be hand-selected and invited in by the current administration. Reference: See photo of Clinton golfing with his buddy Bush. Then see list of Obama's current admin picks (refer back to photo of Clinton), including the head of the NY Federal Reserve. "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Franklin D. Roosevelt Wake up.

COMMENT #80 [Permalink]

... james aka ADAP2K said on 12/21/2008 @ 7:06 pm PT...





CBS News: Michael Connell was told NOT TO FLY and that his plane may be SABOTAGED ! http://adap2k.blogspot.c...ne-dead-gop-it-guru.html

COMMENT #81 [Permalink]

... Joan said on 12/21/2008 @ 7:27 pm PT...





Off-topic (strictly speaking) but maybe someone could check my math re this story at huffpost: "Merrill Lynch Chairman and CEO John Thain ...earned $83 million...last year..." So...83 million divided by 52...

I'm really bad at math...because I keep getting a little over a million and a half a week. But that's absurd, hahaha! No one could possibly be that greedy. That vile...that obscene...

COMMENT #82 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/21/2008 @ 7:44 pm PT...





Did it say if he was married, Joan?

COMMENT #83 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/21/2008 @ 7:45 pm PT...





[Sorry, sorry, I completely agree, but the joke was too much for me to pass up....]

COMMENT #84 [Permalink]

... Orangutan. said on 12/21/2008 @ 7:51 pm PT...





The Bottom Line is the story must not die with the man. This should just reconfirm the importance of this story. Hopefully Larisa will write up all of her information and publish it as soon as possible. Hopefully his wife will continue to be a source of all information she knows of. We should all stay true to the original story of vote theft in Ohio and not let that die or go away.

COMMENT #85 [Permalink]

... Niles Davenport said on 12/21/2008 @ 8:53 pm PT...





One can only hope that the true story in Ohio will be the key to unlock the entire treasonous conspiracy. At this point, however, hope is fading.

COMMENT #86 [Permalink]

... creeksneakers2 said on 12/21/2008 @ 9:08 pm PT...





Agent 99 I've been reading about this all weekend and I haven't ignored any facts.

COMMENT #87 [Permalink]

... 72dawg said on 12/21/2008 @ 9:53 pm PT...





I love the negatives responses here, because there is such a conviction that the Democrats have to behind it all, and that the Republicans are innocent bystanders. Since Jan. 20, 1969, there have been 28 years of Republicans and 12 years of Democrats.

COMMENT #88 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 12/21/2008 @ 9:59 pm PT...





Then, creeksneakers, that just leaves option [2] and that isn't something we smile upon here. You're accusing of lying a few professionals who were in touch with Connell and his wife on the matter. And seeing as how not just their reputations but their jobs depend on them being very careful to state the truth, and they have stated it in places you must have been reading, if you really have been reading about it all weekend, that would mean you are definitely seeking to mislead readers of this blog, no? RULES FOR COMMENTING AT BRAD BLOG Please observe them or you won't be welcome anymore.

COMMENT #89 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/21/2008 @ 11:06 pm PT...





[ed note: Comment deleted. George, please do not cut and paste long strings of data. As you may have noted, it's extremely difficult to follow, even if you know what you're looking at. You should provide links to the information you want people to see, or discuss the information you see, instead. I saved it in case you don't have it. Thank you. --99]

COMMENT #90 [Permalink]

... George said on 12/21/2008 @ 11:10 pm PT...





[ed note: Comment deleted. George, please do not cut and paste long strings of data. As you may have noted, it's extremely difficult to follow, even if you know what you're looking at. You should provide links to the information you want people to see, or discuss the information you see, instead. I saved it in case you don't have it. Thank you. --99]

COMMENT #91 [Permalink]

... Chris Hooten said on 12/21/2008 @ 11:39 pm PT...





Let's hope there is a substantial "care package" to be released to the media and authorities upon his death. I can't believe he didn't have any kind of contingency plan for his death if he truly felt threatened. We shall see.

COMMENT #92 [Permalink]

... czaragorn said on 12/22/2008 @ 2:46 am PT...





Durn' tootin', Chris Hooten! That's a very good thought. I hope you're right. Of course these sociopaths will stop at nothing - I wouldn't be surprised to see the bloodbath pick up speed, sad to say. As you said, we shall see.

COMMENT #93 [Permalink]

... Joan said on 12/22/2008 @ 5:09 am PT...





Re 82

Omigosh that didn't even occur to me, hahaha, I was so just wallowing in the soft, deep incredible-ness of his greed.

Could someone introduce me to Mrs. Thain? Poor lamb, I'm sure she needs a consoling friend right now. Ugh, no, on second thought...avarice of that strength & strain must surely be contagious.

COMMENT #94 [Permalink]

... turthteller said on 12/22/2008 @ 9:41 am PT...





Connell admitted he "might" have been too zealous in promoting pro-life candidates, whatever that means. Remember the guys who shoot people at abortion clinics think they are doing God's will too. The Catholics who put non-believer's on poles to rot publicly thought they were doing God's will. They were praying in the churches and helping the poor the next day.

COMMENT #95 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/22/2008 @ 10:02 am PT...





Hard to believe a MSM affiliate would air this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7gHdo6ac38&

COMMENT #96 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 12/22/2008 @ 10:23 am PT...





This is about as eerie as a video can get http://www.youtube.com/w...sbqw&feature=related

COMMENT #97 [Permalink]

... Joan said on 12/22/2008 @ 10:49 am PT...





Re 81

And it isn't off-topic, of course, greed & murder being old, comfortable bedfellows. Not that that's news to anybody.

It's really sad and horrible, though, to be staring it in the face.

COMMENT #98 [Permalink]

... karen from illinois said on 12/22/2008 @ 12:25 pm PT...





a series of unfortunate events small plane crash kills neocon it guru who was on that plane in denver? who benefitted from the dam in tennesee failing?

COMMENT #99 [Permalink]

... 72dawg said on 12/22/2008 @ 1:58 pm PT...





Thank you senders of messages 80, 95 & 96. Amazing videos.

COMMENT #100 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 12/22/2008 @ 4:49 pm PT...





UPDATE 12/22/08: Cliff Arnebeck, the plaintiffs' attorney in the federal Ohio election fraud conspiracy case, comments to The BRAD BLOG on the death of Connell, his key witness, and what it may mean to the future of his case. See our exclusive report here...

COMMENT #101 [Permalink]

... Robert said on 1/24/2009 @ 8:48 am PT...

