In a conversation at the Australian National University, Michelle Grattan, chief political correspondent at the Conversation, talks with Guardian Australia’s political editor, Katharine Murphy, about her new book, On Disruption. Murphy expands on the timeliness of her book with the current climate in Australian politics, the #MeToo movement and the overall mass digital disruption of society itself. Grattan and Murphy are introduced by Helen Sullivan, the director of ANU’s Crawford school of public policy

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