During the first Mass of the school year, two students at St. Bernard Elementary School in suburban Pittsburgh stand in front of the congregation and lead their classmates in prayer.

They pray for the leaders of the world, for the sick and suffering, and for the victims of abuse in the Catholic Church.

It is the only time clergy abuse is mentioned during the service. It might be the only time it's mentioned in the school. Principal Anthony Merante says he wants to leave that conversation up to parents.

"For some kids — and this is what I'm concerned about — parents don't want them to be aware of this and that's the parents' right. So you're going to bring something up and stir something up that isn't there," he says.

After the St. Bernard Mass, about a half-dozen parents decline to speak on the record because, they say, they either haven't talked to their kids about the clergy abuse or they don't know what to say. Some say they were unsure whether their young children even recognized they had prayed for victims of abuse.

The Pittsburgh Diocese oversees 64 elementary and high schools in six Western Pennsylvania counties. The grand jury report named 17 schools in the diocese where abuse took place. That number could be higher, though. In a handful of cases, the report noted that abuse happened in a school but didn't specify which one. Sometimes children were molested and raped in their school. Other times students were groomed for abuse during the school day.

Across Pittsburgh and the state, Catholic schools and parents are grappling with whether — and how — to address the grand jury report. Some, like Merante, don't feel it's their place to discuss it with young students. But others, including teachers and parents, are providing a space for students to voice their concerns about the report and their faith.

Reassuring parents

Merante did send a letter from the Pittsburgh Diocese to parents during the first week of school. It reassured parents that "we as the Church are diligent in doing everything we can to provide safety and protection for those most vulnerable among us."

The letter outlines the steps Catholic schools are taking to prevent clergy sex abuse. Anyone who comes in contact with children is required to undergo criminal and sexual misconduct background checks and take a course in how to report sexual abuse as well as another class, "Protecting God's Children," which has a more religion-based approach.

The letter also reminds parents of the curriculum taught in schools as part of the "Catholic Vision of Love Program."

The lessons on love and human sexuality are woven throughout the school year and cover "good touch, bad touch" and the right to say no. The letter says schools also teach children "their role in remaining safe."

Nick Vaskov, executive director of communications for the Pittsburgh Diocese, says Catholic school principals requested the letter.

"They had been asking for something to reassure parents of the steps schools take to make them safe environments for children as well as the steps they take to educate kids at an age-appropriate manner — just to be aware of suspicious behavior, or things that may be grooming behavior, signs of abuse," he says.

While schools are legally obligated to fulfill many of these requirements, the Pennsylvania grand jury report on clergy sexual abuse that was released last month revealed that abuse happened anyway. The report noted several personnel files for the same priest that contained both a clean background report and a file documenting abuse.

'There's going to be anger'

After morning prayer at Central Catholic High School in Pittsburgh, students in religion class were encouraged to discuss the clergy abuse.

Principal Tony Baginski says teachers are not expected to have the answers. They are expected to listen.

"Not to try and deflect. Not try to explain away," he says. "And there's going to be anger there. There's disappointment. But then also to be honest and to say we also have questions."

Baginski says he gave that same advice to a parent who approached him at school. He says he would generally encourage parents to listen to their child's questions.

That's what parent Maria Aikins is doing. She brought up the report with her kids at the dinner table.

Her younger son is just starting his junior year at Central Catholic. He hasn't had a lot to say. "But he internalizes everything and I know he's thinking about it," she says.

One of her older sons graduated from Central Catholic last year; he thinks it's more of a societal issue than a church problem. "He was more just like, 'I've always gone to church because I go to church for God.' That's how he felt about it," she says.

Which is a relief to Aikins; she was concerned her kids would question their faith.

"I think that they did think, 'How should we respond? Should this, you know, make us feel less close to God? Less faith-filled? Less trusting, maybe?' But I don't think it has," she says.

Aikins told her sons that priests are people and that their sins should not be an indictment of the church.

Kim Moses also has a son who is a junior at Central Catholic. He also attended a Catholic elementary school. When the grand jury report came out, she looked at it to see whether anyone at the school was named, she says. Central Catholic was not mentioned in the report.

She has mentioned the report to her son. But she says it is hard to know exactly what to say. "Sometimes we say too much. Sometimes you don't say enough. But you've got to say enough to make sure that they understand that that behavior is not only wrong. You know it's illegal. It's harmful. And you have to be willing to speak up if you ever feel uncomfortable in any space," she says.

Moses says she has a close relationship with her son, and in her house, her family often discusses sensitive subjects. But, she says, she might have approached the subject differently if her son were younger.

Have conversations early

Pediatrician Mary Carrasco, the director of A Child's Place, an agency in Pittsburgh that provides medical assessments of suspected child abuse, has evaluated about 400 children in the city each year for the past 30 years and has never come across a child who was abused by a priest. She says that in itself is concerning when coupled with the fact that the report alleges that more than 1,000 children were victims of abuse.

"What's different about this report is it seems to be a closed group. That and reports of abuse were not reported following the proper protocol," she says.

She says the grand jury report is drawing attention to detrimental practices in the Catholic Church, but that doesn't mean other parents shouldn't have a conversation with their children as well.

Her recommendation is to have conversations with children early about appropriate behavior and to advise them not to be alone with an adult.

"Parents should tell their children it's OK to say no to things that make you uncomfortable," she says. "I think kids need to learn that they don't have to just blindly follow what feels like an order or feels like 'because this person has authority over me they can just do anything.'"



RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Catholic school students in Pennsylvania are back in the classroom just weeks after the release of a grand jury report that detailed mass clergy sex abuse in six Catholic dioceses in that state. That raises questions for teachers and parents who are trying to figure out how to talk to students about the investigation. From member station WESA in Pittsburgh, Sarah Schneider reports.

UNIDENTIFIED CONGREGATION: (Singing) Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia.

UNIDENTIFIED PRIEST: The Lord be with you.

UNIDENTIFIED CONGREGATION: And with your spirit.

SARAH SCHNEIDER, BYLINE: At the first mass of the school year at St. Bernard elementary school in suburban Pittsburgh, two students stand in front of the congregation and lead their classmates in prayer. They pray for the leaders of the world, for the sick and suffering, for all of life's blessings and...

UNIDENTIFIED STUDENT: For all victims of abuse of the Catholic Church, we pray to the Lord.

UNIDENTIFIED CONGREGATION: Lord, hear our prayer.

SCHNEIDER: It's the only time revelations about clergy abuse is mentioned during the service, and it might be the only time it's brought up at the school. Principal Anthony Merante says he's going to leave that conversation up to parents.

ANTHONY MERANTE: For some kids - and this is what I'm concerned about - parents do not want them to be aware of this. And that's the parents' right. So you're going to bring something up and stir something up that isn't there.

SCHNEIDER: After the first mass of the school year, about a half dozen parents weren't willing to speak on the record. They said they either hadn't talked to their kids about clergy abuse or they didn't know what to say. The Pittsburgh Diocese sent a letter home last week assuring parents that their children are safe in school as well as reminding them of their children's own, quote, "role in remaining safe." Nick Vaskov with the diocese says students are taught the right to say no as part of lessons on personal safety.

NICK VASKOV: Just to be aware of, you know, just suspicious behavior or things that may be grooming behavior, signs of abuse.

SCHNEIDER: Seventeen schools in the diocese were named in the grand jury's clergy abuse report. Sometimes, children were molested and raped in their school. Other times, students were groomed during the school day. And while Catholic schools are required to do background checks on anyone who comes in contact with kids, the grand jury report revealed that sometimes abuse happened anyway. The report noted several personnel files for the same priests contained both a clean background report and a file documenting abuse.

TONY BAGINSKI: Good morning. Please stand for morning prayer.

Lord Jesus, we ask for your help as we begin this new school year. Allow us to experience your presence and the many blessings you put before us.

SCHNEIDER: After morning prayer at Central Catholic High School in Pittsburgh, students are encouraged to discuss the clergy abuse in religion class. Principal Tony Baginski says teachers aren't expected to have the answers. They are expected to listen.

BAGINSKI: Not to try and deflect, not to try and explain away - and there's going to be anger there; there's disappointment - but then also to be honest to also say that we also have questions.

SCHNEIDER: And Baginski has given that same advice to parents. He's encouraged them to listen to their child's questions. That's what parent Maria Aikins is doing. She brought up the report at the dinner table. Her younger son is just starting his junior year at Central Catholic. He hasn't had a lot to say.

MARIA AIKINS: You know, and it's interesting he doesn't. But he internalizes everything, and I know he's thinking about it.

SCHNEIDER: One of her older sons just graduated from Central Catholic last year. He thinks it's more of a societal issue than a church problem.

AIKINS: He was more just, like, I've always gone to church because I go to church for God. That's how he felt about it.

SCHNEIDER: Which is a relief to Aikins - she was concerned her kids would question their faith.

AIKINS: I think that they did think - how should we respond? Should this, you know, make us feel less close to God, less faith-filled, less trusting maybe? But I don't think that it has.

SCHNEIDER: She says she told her sons that priests are people and their sins should not be an indictment of the church.

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

Sarah Schneider on MORNING EDITION from NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.