Re: Goodbye, Fedora

From: David Cantrell <dcantrell redhat com>

To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core <fedora-devel-list redhat com>

Subject: Re: Goodbye, Fedora

Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:31:24 +0000

On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 03:03 -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > After thirteen years as a loyal Red Hat and Fedora user, I reached my > limit today We got this email last year, Eric, but it had slightly different content. I think. Maybe. It's hard to read your messages. They are SO BORING. They read like anything in the USA Today. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-March/msg01286.html From your post last year, you were "threatening to jump very publicly to another distribution and orphan several Fedora-related HOWTOs in the process" and it looks like [from the content of last year's email], we fixed a lot of things that bothered you about FC3 and FC4 and we have been able to keep you as a loyal user for 13 years now. Clearly threatening us gets us to fix things that bother people. Last year you noted that our infrastructure by FC5 was great. Yum was doing upgrades well and we no longer suffered from "egregious fuckups." But now you say it's a huge problem again in the current email by noting our "incompetent repository maintenance" and our non-statically linked rpm. So what is the problem? Is it user incompetence or are you actually aware of the infrastructure changes that take place or are taking place? Reading your message, my guess is you are just misinformed and that frustrates you. It also looks like you failed on this issue from last year's message from you: ...it's clear from the devel-list traffic that the submission pathway for new packages has got most if not all of the process issues shaken out of it. I had meant to get more directly involved in that, there are four or five things I want to package and submit myself, but higher-priority tasks ate my bandwidth. One of my resolutions for 2006 is to make time for those submissions. But then in the new message, you say: * A murky, poorly-documented, over-complex submission process. So, did you get your four or five packages done and submitted? And that's about all of the message I can take. Looking forward to next year's post. Consider an InfoGraphic for next year's post. Imagine what you can say with a chart! -- David Cantrell <dcantrell redhat com> Red Hat / Westford, MA

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