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Jerkhov said:

I 100% saw this coming, no idea why people were surprised



I knew that tons of features would get removed when they made the US release date that much further in this modern age.



Plus that stuff with you giving someone a straight potion is definitely also removed, US version probably lets everyone be bi so SJWs will shut the fuck up. I 100% saw this coming, no idea why people were surprisedI knew that tons of features would get removed when they made the US release date that much further in this modern age.Plus that stuff with you giving someone a straight potion is definitely also removed, US version probably lets everyone be bi so SJWs will shut the fuck up.



The MC did indeed give her the powder without her knowing, but as usual, I make the greatest of arguments, so here you go:



It has spoilers.





Immahnoob said:

I believe it's odd that people are against the Soleil conversation, to be honest.



It's not a "gay conversion", Soleil is not homosexual since she cannot marry any female in-game anyway, even if she were, the conversation does not imply anything of the sorts. She's simply her father's child mostly, and a Japanese trope AKA schoolgirl "lesbianism". You'd be right in saying Kamui slipped her the powder without knowing, but you're forgetting first and foremost, what are the main gripes with something like that happening IRL (since everyone's arguing that mostly):





Consequences. (E.g. slipping someone drugs can bring side effects that can damage considerably (depending on the dosage), it can also damage other ways like socially)



Intent (E.g. "good" or "bad" intent, I'll talk about this point a bit later).



In our case, what are the consequences of slipping Soleil a drug that changes male to female and female to male? Well, none. The drug isn't permanent, (Note, talking about a situation in which she does not know that she was drugged) she'll simply have "weak knees" for "cute" girls that are actually "buff" men for a short period of time.



Let's take intent, from the conversation, Kamui is trying to help Soleil, and immediately tells her that he drugged her (actually, this is stupid in itself, a therapy in which she doesn't know would work better). Soleil has no issue with this, because she knows this is important to her AND Kamui, since it influences her fighting capabilities. So his intent is to do GOOD. There's also another point to bring up here, which I'll bring up later.



The issue with arguing this from a real life point of view is that the drug, unlike most drugs, does not have any side effects. Soleil doesn't seem to suffer in any way, except that now she sees sexes as the reverse, and she's also aware of it because Kamui never had any intention of harming her. Her mental capacity is normal under the drug too, unlike most drugs, again.



So what would the best analogy be for this? Well, if say, Kamui's intent was not "good" but "bad", at most, this would be a childish joke, since the "consequences" of his actions will most likely not harm her in any way. Since there's nothing in real life that can change perception to this degree (accurately and specifically) without any side effects either, I can't give an exact analogy, so I'll make an analogy based on the degree of annoyance and situation.



It would be like slipping someone lots of salt in their drink without them knowing. What you yell after you do that is up to you, just don't go for "It's just a prank, bro.". I believe it's odd that people are against the Soleil conversation, to be honest.It's not a "gay conversion", Soleil is not homosexual since she cannot marry any female in-game anyway, even if she were, the conversation does not imply anything of the sorts. She's simply her father's child mostly, and a Japanese trope AKA schoolgirl "lesbianism". You'd be right in saying Kamui slipped her the powder without knowing, but you're forgetting first and foremost, what are the main gripes with something like that happening IRL (since everyone's arguing that mostly):In our case, what are the consequences of slipping Soleil a drug that changes male to female and female to male? Well, none. The drug isn't permanent, (Note, talking about a situation in which she does not know that she was drugged) she'll simply have "weak knees" for "cute" girls that are actually "buff" men for a short period of time.Let's take intent, from the conversation, Kamui is trying to help Soleil, and immediately tells her that he drugged her (actually, this is stupid in itself, a therapy in which she doesn't know would work better). Soleil has no issue with this, because she knows this is important to her AND Kamui, since it influences her fighting capabilities. So his intent is to do GOOD. There's also another point to bring up here, which I'll bring up later.The issue with arguing this from a real life point of view is that the drug, unlike most drugs, does not have any side effects. Soleil doesn't seem to suffer in any way, except that now she sees sexes as the reverse, and she's also aware of it because Kamui never had any intention of harming her. Her mental capacity is normal under the drug too, unlike most drugs, again.So what would the best analogy be for this? Well, if say, Kamui's intent was not "good" but "bad", at most, this would be a childish joke, since the "consequences" of his actions will most likely not harm her in any way. Since there's nothing in real life that can change perception to this degree (accurately and specifically) without any side effects either, I can't give an exact analogy, so I'll make an analogy based on the degree of annoyance and situation.It would be like slipping someone lots of salt in their drink without them knowing. What you yell after you do that is up to you, just don't go for "It's just a prank, bro.".



Immahnoob said:

If we're going to argue affirmative consent for everything. We'd have to all be guilty of something right now (do note that my argument isn't based on the law, but even then).



The law.

TheLaw said:

(4) A person does not commit an offence against this section if the person has reasonable cause to believe that each person who was likely to consume the drink or food would not have objected to consuming the drink or food if the person had been aware of the presence and quantity of the intoxicating substance in the drink or food.



Basically, knowing Soleil's reaction AFTER she was drugged and how her personality and behavior with Kamui is in general, I doubt you could have a case that Soleil wouldn't have accepted the "drugged" drink.



Besides, Soleil doesn't see herself as a victim anyway. If we're going to argue affirmative consent for everything. We'd have to all be guilty of something right now (do note that my argument isn't based on the law, but even then).Basically, knowing Soleil's reaction AFTER she was drugged and how her personality and behavior with Kamui is in general, I doubt you could have a case that Soleil wouldn't have accepted the "drugged" drink.Besides, Soleil doesn't see herself as a victim anyway. Actually, the whole "straight potion" and "gay conversion" bullshit is false. The original never had such a thing.The MC did indeed give her the powder without her knowing, but as usual, I make the greatest of arguments, so here you go:It has spoilers. BBCode Play League of Legends here!







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