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During a press conference, Trump said that if he is going to be investigated, Vice President Pence’s phone calls with Ukraine should also be investigated.

According to the official White House transcript as provided to PolitcusUSA, Trump said:

the witch hunt continues, but they’re getting hit hard in this witch hunt, because when they look at the information, it’s a joke. Impeachment? For that? When you have a wonderful meeting, or you have a wonderful phone conversation?

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I think you should ask. We actually — you know, that was the second conversation. I think you should ask for the first conversation also. I can’t believe they haven’t, although I heard there’s a — there’s a rumor out they want the first conversation. It was beautiful. It was just a perfect conversation.

But I think you should do that. I think you should do, and I think you should ask for VP Pence’s conversation because he had a couple conversations also. I can save you a lot of time. They’re all perfect. Nothing was mentioned of any import other than congratulations. But the word is that they’re going to ask for the first phone conversation. You can have it anytime you need it. And also Mike Pence’s conversations, which were, I think, one or two of them. They were perfect. They were all perfect.

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Nothing to see here. Just Trump trying to get his own vice president, Mike Pence, impeached. pic.twitter.com/Zi6JDMeONP — Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) September 25, 2019

There should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that Trump would throw Mike Pence under the bus in a second to save his presidency. Trump has made no secret of his desire to build a family political dynasty, and he sees his kids Don Jr. and Ivanka as next line after he leaves office. Trump has declined to endorse Pence, and at times, has even waffled on keeping Pence as his vice president.

Trump is looking to blame anyone, including people in his own administration to save his skin. Pence was always going to go down with the Trump ship.

But, he never thought that it would be Trump pushing him overboard.

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