<sulf> is it really true that people hate "freedom fighters" like go1dfish and cojoco and downvote their posts on sight

<sulf> goldfish - yeah, but cojoco's posts are okay and still downvoted

<neptath> cojoco can be almost as annoying, so yes, sometimes he is downvoted on sight.

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<sulf> neptath: mind if I post this in that thread, with your name edited out?

<sulf> cojoco claims ---

<sulf> "And people generally like my ToR postings ... do you have any evidence that I am a person that people do not like?"

<neptath> Well, no. I have no evidence, and I would rather not start something with him

<neptath> I would rather you not post it

<sulf> Sure, no problem.

<neptath> Or, at least not verbatim. I wouldn't mind something like "I have heard that XYZ from some vague nonspecific sources"

<sulf> understoo

<sulf> d

<pigferret> I like cojoco, I really wish he wouldn't associate with go1dfish

<pigferret> cojoco is reasonable and affable.

<neptath> sulf: thanks

<sulf> neptath

<sulf> I've heard from sources that I'll keep intentionally vague by request that you can be considered annoying, too.

<sulf> here's my draft

<sulf> is it okay?

<neptath> Fine by me, thanks

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<crapador> I'm late but cojoco is an idiot

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<neptath> Well, that's not very nice.

<pigferret> Well, thanks for the input

<crapador> he is though

<crapador> saying he shouldnt mix with goldfish?

<crapador> hes no better

<crapador> hes says dumb shit all the time

<neptath> Well, cojoco doesn't constantly advertise his subreddit, for one thing.

<neptath> Or make personal attacks.

<crapador> but he advertizes his general stupidity

<crapador> and i say that while mispelling words

<neptath> crapador, have you heard of ad hominem attacks?

<crapador> i have

<crapador> and i know that

<crapador> insults are not ad hominems

<crapador> theres a difference

<pigferret> go1dfish is a Class A consiritard. cojoco, not so much.

<crapador> they are cut from the same cloth

<neptath> You're very borderline, at best. Please refrain from that type of rhetoric in the future.

<pigferret> Disagreement formally agreed upon then.

<crapador> im borderline what?

<neptath> borderline ad hominem attack

<crapador> you dont even know what an ad hominem is

<crapador> "you're wrong because you're an idiot" is an ad hominem

<crapador> saying someone is an idiot isnt an ad hominem

<Zazie_Lavender> either way crapador enough is enough

<crapador> well

<Zazie_Lavender> I don't really want to see anyone breaking out the status.

<sulf> inb4 this is "leaked" to srd

<Zazie_Lavender> lol

<neptath> Well, from what I can tell, you disagree with him, and you havent offered any reason why other than "he's an idiot"

<crapador> i dont agree with you guys here

<agentlame> crapador: why you trollin' here?

<crapador> but i dont want to cause trouble

<Zazie_Lavender> you're free to disagree

<Zazie_Lavender> but do so civilly and you're more than welcome to disagree all you like

<Zazie_Lavender> and tell us wy

<crapador> i was just shooting the shit

<Zazie_Lavender> *why

<pigferret> popcorn.jpg

<agentlame> In crapador's defense he/she is normally pretty cool in #SRD.

<crapador> maybe, i over stepped

<neptath> "Shooting the shit" isn't really what this channel is for

<agentlame> Not sure about all this jazz, though. :/

<agentlame> neptath: sure it is.

<crapador> i thought it was

<crapador> it was on freenode

<agentlame> I spent all night 'shooting the shit' in here, yesterday.

<neptath> In my understanding, it's for getting quick answers or having realtime discussion

<neptath> I could be wrong though, if we agreed upon something else

<agentlame> Meh... it's an IRC channel.

<crapador> well if i misunderstood, my bad

<agentlame> It's on-topic when it should be, but in downtime it's about whatever.

<neptath> I'm just going by the header in /r/ToR

<agentlame> No, I understand. If someone came in with a super on-topic comment/question we'd have to stop the meta conversation about ToR/ToM /comments.

<crapador> you do need to look up what an ad hominem is though

<agentlame> But, that is no reason that the channel be quiet otherwise. :)

<neptath> I know what it is, I think I may have misunderstood your intent, thoguh

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<crapador> yeah well we dont know each other

<crapador> so fair enough

<Zazie_Lavender> yeah

<neptath> Sorry bout that, mate

<Zazie_Lavender> We try not to bash people here

<neptath> ^^

<crapador> no problem here. i dont want to fuck with you guys

<Zazie_Lavender> :3

<crapador> noted

<agentlame> All that said, I'd defend cojco as well. He's normally more reasonable/balanced than he was in that thread.

<crapador> different than the freenode channel was but noted

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<agentlame> crapador: It's not. Just don't kick in the door bashing people. :)

<khnumhotep> /topic Starguard: "You guys take this shit way too serious"

<agentlame> khnumhotep: huh?

<sulf> meh I wouldn't care about drama in this channel

<crapador> k, agentlame

<agentlame> :)

<crapador> there really isnt drama

<khnumhotep> I just thought it was funny, 'sall

<crapador> i dont like cojoco

<crapador> thats it

<crapador> others dont like goldfish

<crapador> but thats ok for some reason

<agentlame> Well, he's an OK cat in *my* eyes.

<Zazie_Lavender> We don't spend time in here dissing goldf1sh either

<agentlame> But, people strike people the wrong way sometimes.

<sulf> khnumhotep, this was deleted already

<crapador> well you do

<crapador> scroll up

<sulf> and not by us

<agentlame> Zazie_Lavender: sure we do.

<crapador> which users am i allowed not to like? where i can find that list?

<agentlame> sulf: "There's an "unsubscribe" button to the right."

<Zazie_Lavender> no list

<Zazie_Lavender> XD

<sulf> oops stupid me I wasn't logged in

<agentlame> crapador: it's a short list: 'agentlame'.

<crapador> but i like agentlame, we had a disagreement discussed it like normal people and i saw your point in the end

<neptath> crapador: dislike whoever you want, but you really shouldn't just randomly come in here and start hurling insults