Business magnate Donald Trump showed up on conservative radio host Laura Ingraham’s show on Tuesday morning to declare he had personally seen vaccines cause “horrible autism” in children. But he insisted that he remains “totally pro-vaccine.”

“I’ve known people that had totally magnificent children, functioning a hundred percent, everything beautiful, smart as a whip, and they go for this shot and get this shot of this massive dose, of everything at one time, and they end up with horrible autism,” Trump said.

The mogul and sometimes presidential candidate repeated that he has seen children go from being “exceptional” to “autistic” several more times during the show.

“It’s amazing that it’s never discussed,” he added, saying that he’s gotten thanks from people who are “incensed in terms of what’s going on with vaccines.”

Trump, oddly, went on to state that he is nevertheless “a huge fan of vaccines” and “totally pro-vaccine.” He suggested they be given in smaller doses.

Ingraham added that studies have debunked such anecdotes, but still complained that anyone who makes the autism connection is “excoriated” by the media.

“You hear nary a word about them about the unvaccinated people crossing our border en masse over the past twenty years,” Ingraham said at one point during the show.