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Member Back to Top Post by wildcatter on Wow. We lose too many good players. Junior Henderson good player, Jabari Butler good player, Terry Ausborne good player, etc. All freshman contributors that are all gone.



Say what you want about attitude or bad apples or grades but they were all recruited for a reason so why can't we mold them and why can't we influence them to want to stay? We seem to have a hard time getting players to buy in.



0-6 won't help at all and if the kid was trouble then it is what it is...all I'm saying is that it's hard to improve when you have no veteran leadership and multiple top recruits continue to leave.

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Member Back to Top Post by wildcat90 on wildcatter said:



Say what you want about attitude or bad apples or grades but they were all recruited for a reason so why can't we mold them and why can't we influence them to want to stay? We seem to have a hard time getting players to buy in.



0-6 won't help at all and if the kid was trouble then it is what it is...all I'm saying is that it's hard to improve when you have no veteran leadership and multiple top recruits continue to leave. Wow. We lose too many good players. Junior Henderson good player, Jabari Butler good player, Terry Ausborne good player, etc. All freshman contributors that are all gone.Say what you want about attitude or bad apples or grades but they were all recruited for a reason so why can't we mold them and why can't we influence them to want to stay? We seem to have a hard time getting players to buy in.0-6 won't help at all and if the kid was trouble then it is what it is...all I'm saying is that it's hard to improve when you have no veteran leadership and multiple top recruits continue to leave.







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Member Back to Top Post by Outsider on Was Butler a good fit for ACU? Was he really that good? I saw him get beat many times. I saw him miss tackles. I saw him make stupid penalties that showed his lack of discipline. I know he had good potential, but can't blame all his mistakes on coaching. Even with bad coaching, if he can't lead or play right, he doesn't need to be at ACU and spoil others that should be here. Our season is already pretty much shot. I won't defend a player that can't make it better. Sorry he decided to leave. I'm also sorry he decided he can't play like a Wildcat.



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Member Back to Top Post by catmasters05 on bearkat1 said: I looked up the stats on Jabari Butler. Wow!, all everything in high school & Freshman of the year in Southland. Hard to replace a player like that, just guessing grades. Would like to insert my "two cents worth" on this board when I see something of interest. If you have any questions about the Kats fire away and I'll try my best to give an honest reply. I just don't feel like it would be grades. My guess is that because he was "all everything in high school and freshman of the year" that he was frustrated that he was no longer starting. He was unbelievable last year as a freshman, but he has been less than spectacular this year. I hate that he has gone, but I just don't think it was due to grades.

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Member Back to Top Post by acuwildcat86 on catmasters05 said: bearkat1 said: I looked up the stats on Jabari Butler. Wow!, all everything in high school & Freshman of the year in Southland. Hard to replace a player like that, just guessing grades. Would like to insert my "two cents worth" on this board when I see something of interest. If you have any questions about the Kats fire away and I'll try my best to give an honest reply. I just don't feel like it would be grades. My guess is that because he was "all everything in high school and freshman of the year" that he was frustrated that he was no longer starting. He was unbelievable last year as a freshman, but he has been less than spectacular this year. I hate that he has gone, but I just don't think it was due to grades.

Yep, definitely NOT grades. Someone pointed out earlier in this thread that this is becoming a trend with good young players. I don't like it...I don't like it one bit. This whole season makes me sad on so many levels.

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Member Back to Top Post by Outsider on Butler did play well in high school and had other offers. He also played well last year. He didn't play well this year. Is coaching and leadership a good part of the blame? Yes it is. The other part is Butler himself, players he had around him before and his own attitude. IF he was truly as great as the immediate reading of his high school stats suggest, he still should have been able to do his job better at ACU, even with bad coaching. I don't take away one bit from the current coaching and leadership issues. I have also said there is blame on both sides. Yes, these are young kids, but they still have to play to their potential. I think other players may have similar issues. Better recruiting for players that fit ACU and better leading/coaching of those recruits after they get here are much needed. If there are bad coaches, they need to go. If there are bad players, even with good stats, they need to go. I don't want someone who has no heart, no team mentality or a winning attitude and sense of finishing a game/season. Sorry, but if you are going to use my Wildcats to simply advance yourself as a coach or player you need to move on......Winning or loosing season, we are still Wildcats!!

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Member Back to Top Post by wildcatter on Yes we know we don't need 'cancers' on the team. Yes he was having a bad year. But how does a player coming off being named preseason all conference and freshman of the year to being relegated to backup? None of us can answer that (that I'm aware of), maybe he didn't put in the time this summer, maybe he got lazy. The point is he is gone and the thing that concerns me most is that this keeps happening with our promising young talent. I don't want to hear a 'maybe he wasnt meant to be a wildcat' or 'maybe he was selfish'. I want to see progress and kids mature and develop and accept responsibility. I want to see talented freshman accept leadership roles as they gained experience. If he didn't want to put in the work then so be it, but that doesn't mean we dismiss the idea of this happening too often.