https://systemmastery.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/afterthought-53-the-secret-is-inside.mp3

So here’s an interesting first. The author of The Secret of Zir’an, Chris Hockabout, is a listener! So when we covered his book, he reached out to us. Thank goodness we kinda liked it! On today’s episode we invite Chris on the show to tell us about the past and future of his game, and also keep him around to answer your questions.

Editors note: Remote interviews can occasionally lead to sound artifacting or minor volume issues. Please be patient, I think it came out okay.