“The art of tackling has changed. Players look for fouls now because they know they’re going to get them. You have to be careful. It’s still full on in training; we still clatter into each other, no shin-pads. Never! You get an eight-a-side, one team’s up and starting to take the p--- and the other team starts smashing them. It could be Wayne, it used to be Scholesy more often than not! Scholesy would just take someone out. In matches, he just wanted to let people know he was about. If you ask Scholesy he genuinely thinks he’s a good tackler. ‘I just mis-time it now and again.’ It wasn’t ‘I’ll dip my toe in.’ It was the way he would sprint up to it: sometimes he got the ball, sometimes he didn’t."