User Info: Mew2King Mew2King 12 years ago #1



I played Marth mostly, but tried most of the chars once or twice, I think Marth is the best in Brawl from what I've played so far, but it could also be because of ssbm



The game sucks for tourney play for multiple reasons, but mostly because of the lack of any advanced tactics I could find and extremely slower and less deel feeling gameplay. The only good thing, which DSF and some others told me, is shield cancelling, but it's basically just that the lag from releasing your shield is less than it was in melee (by half? not sure just a guess). If you want to run up with marth and do F smash or Down tilt then you need to run up, shield, release your shield, then F smash (or anything you want).



there's no dash dancing



Tripping is RANDOM. Sometimes you start a match, DASH TOWARD THEM right after the announcer says to start, and you just trip. It's COMPLETELY random from what I've been able to tell these past few hours, it's like luigis misfire except much less likely to happen. Speaking of which, if you wanna know something funny, I did like 6 luigi forward Bs, couldn't get a misfire, then gave it to my friend, and he got a misfire. So I try a few more times, can't get one, i give it to him again and he gets misfire. Then I try a few more times, can't get it, then he doesn't get one (thank god I'd be so mad if it happened again). -.-



no wavedashing (can't find much air dodge use yet, but I probably could later). Although you can do some aerial attacks like a frame before landing (there's no lag unless the actual attack hitbox comes out so far) to slide a little bit. Don't know how useful this will be yet.



no crouch cancel



auto sweet spot



if you are more than even with (anywhere technically under if you draw an invisible straight line down from edge edge) the stage on FD, then Marth (and most others from what I've seen) will be caught under the stage. Battlefield is my new favorite standard stage because it's not stupid.



after you grab the ledge, you have to wait for like a third a second ( I guess, all i know is it feels like a ton of time) before you can do anything, which means ledges (edge guarding people is gonna be waiting for them to get up and will be slow and boring most likely unless I find other ways like air dodging) are going to be really dumb if you just have to wait for them to get up.



they can grab the ledge right after you start your ledge roll, so you have to use invincibility frames by grabbing the ledge just before they do if you want to edge hog



shield grabbing is WAY WAY too broken, but you can't even throw combo easily (if at all in most cases) unless its DeDeDes down throw chain grab



you can't buffer roll or buffer dodge, but you can using the C stick to do them, but you can't buffer them by using C stick



C stick while holding down makes you tilt instead of smash, but that's not important though, since you cant crouch cancel anyway



AND MOST IMPORTANTLY COMBOS ARE MUCH MUCH WORSE NOW



the best thing about melee, besides the fact that it had so much more, is that it had tons of combos you could do if you were good enough. This game has hardly anything.



Marths fair hits them away, but it's WAY better if you tipper in terms of power and horizontal angle. It's terribleI played Marth mostly, but tried most of the chars once or twice, I think Marth is the best in Brawl from what I've played so far, but it could also be because of ssbmThe game sucks for tourney play for multiple reasons, but mostly because of the lack of any advanced tactics I could find and extremely slower and less deel feeling gameplay. The only good thing, which DSF and some others told me, is shield cancelling, but it's basically just that the lag from releasing your shield is less than it was in melee (by half? not sure just a guess). If you want to run up with marth and do F smash or Down tilt then you need to run up, shield, release your shield, then F smash (or anything you want).there's no dash dancingTripping is RANDOM. Sometimes you start a match, DASH TOWARD THEM right after the announcer says to start, and you just trip. It's COMPLETELY random from what I've been able to tell these past few hours, it's like luigis misfire except much less likely to happen. Speaking of which, if you wanna know something funny, I did like 6 luigi forward Bs, couldn't get a misfire, then gave it to my friend, and he got a misfire. So I try a few more times, can't get one, i give it to him again and he gets misfire. Then I try a few more times, can't get it, then he doesn't get one (thank god I'd be so mad if it happened again). -.-no wavedashing (can't find much air dodge use yet, but I probably could later). Although you can do some aerial attacks like a frame before landing (there's no lag unless the actual attack hitbox comes out so far) to slide a little bit. Don't know how useful this will be yet.no crouch cancelauto sweet spotif you are more than even with (anywhere technically under if you draw an invisible straight line down from edge edge) the stage on FD, then Marth (and most others from what I've seen) will be caught under the stage. Battlefield is my new favorite standard stage because it's not stupid.after you grab the ledge, you have to wait for like a third a second ( I guess, all i know is it feels like a ton of time) before you can do anything, which means ledges (edge guarding people is gonna be waiting for them to get up and will be slow and boring most likely unless I find other ways like air dodging) are going to be really dumb if you just have to wait for them to get up.they can grab the ledge right after you start your ledge roll, so you have to use invincibility frames by grabbing the ledge just before they do if you want to edge hogshield grabbing is WAY WAY too broken, but you can't even throw combo easily (if at all in most cases) unless its DeDeDes down throw chain grabyou can't buffer roll or buffer dodge, but you can using the C stick to do them, but you can't buffer them by using C stickC stick while holding down makes you tilt instead of smash, but that's not important though, since you cant crouch cancel anywayAND MOST IMPORTANTLY COMBOS ARE MUCH MUCH WORSE NOWthe best thing about melee, besides the fact that it had so much more, is that it had tons of combos you could do if you were good enough. This game has hardly anything.Marths fair hits them away, but it's WAY better if you tipper in terms of power and horizontal angle.