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dahlspaintandhardware: doggybone1: dahlspaintandhardware: whoopthatasscamilla: dahlspaintandhardware: I hope the LGBTQ community is watching this shit and seeing right fucking through Michelle Visage. All for the outsiders, the gays and the misfits until those gay outsiders are hated by the general public? She’s literally in there wearing that… Also Katie Hopkins followed him about 1 foot away from his back, walking after him saying he was “disgusting” “repulsive” and made a comment about the way he moved his “pathetic arse” RIGHT AFTER he had just been called a f****t - do not try and tell me that is not fucking overflowing with homophobic undertones - this is the person QUEEN VISAGE is currently best pals with wake the fuck up Right, I might agree with you if it was anyone but Perez Hilton. He really is repulsive. Michelle has a history with Perez and she disliked him well before CBB and before she knew the general public hated him. Michelle’s first instinct was to reprimand Alexander for using a slur then her response was to tell Perez to knock it off and to stop goading people. Katie was also defending Alexander because Perez was purposefully trying to antagonize him. Perez has a history of poking people until they explode and then going “I TOLD YOU SO! THIS PERSON IS IGNORANT! THEY ARE THE DEVIL!” Perez isn’t being excluded becauses he’s gay, hes being excluded for being an asshole. Just because someone is gay doesnt mean they get a free pass. I don’t think he should get a free pass. Look, I hate Katie Hopkins with a passion, and when Perez stood and asked excessively about how she “fucked” some guy while goading her with gross tongue actions I was happy to see Perez called out on his misogyny - I think he was being misogynistic and I was happy that there were people there willing to speak up and denounce it (albeit pissed off that the same people ignored it when it came from the mouth of a straight man). The person victim of Perez’s misogyny in this instance was was Katie Hopkins and I was GLAD people backed her up, because misogyny is wrong, period. I don’t give a fuck if he’s the worst person ever - I don’t think homophobia should ever be negotiated with or excused. Michelle said don’t use that word, then went on to talk about how Alexander had been provoked. I don’t fucking care - if you are the type of person who ever feels the need to justify or explain the use of a homophobic slur I don’t fucking trust you and I don’t think you’re a good ally. What we are seeing here is a ‘not good’ LGBT person. He still deserves to be protected from homophobia, and in this case bullying that is undoubtedly (as I’ve said) linked to homophobia. Right I agree you shouldn’t try and justify using slurs. I think Alexander was very much so in the wrong. Though, it was what Perez wanted. He’s done that before. He pokes and pokes until someone explodes and then he acts like he was completely innocent. I accept that maybe its just me, but I cant sympathize with someone who is trying to get people to blow up on him. It was obvious it was what Perez wanted. I also feel like its not enough to say Michelle is now a liar and shouldn’t be allowed to work in a LGBT setting because of this instance. She made sure Alexander knew he was in the wrong then she told Perez to stop antagonizing. I don’t think its her excusing it, its her making Perez own his actions for trying to get it to happen. I feel like Im not really explaining my thoughts in a great way, like, if two people are arguing and both people say really mean things to eachother, but person A was worse then person B, that doesn’t mean Person B gets off scot free and isnt held responsible. Like, how would you have wanted Michelle to handle the situation? That might help figure out the way a discussion could go.

OK I don’t know if this will make sense but I’ll try. I do not think we should even be discussing whether or not Alexander was or was not provoked bc i don’t think it is relevant but speaking about Perez’s behaviour in general, I can honestly totally understand why he was being provocative and trying to get that kind of reaction. From the minute he was in there it was really obvious there was older, straight men in there who he made feel uncomfortable bc he is gay, and camp, flamboyant, loud etc with it (basically, bc he is who he is). The first night when Perez asked Ken Morely if it was alright they were sharing a bed, Ken responded by saying “eh yes. can I ask, are you… are you… are you… [gay]”. When Perez was goading Katie about fucking someone in the garden during a task, all of the men loudly defended her (rightly so) BUT had NOTHING to say about the sexual assault the previous night. What that tells me, and surely Perez is that they just don’t like it when gay men use tools they think belong to straight men - misogyny. Then during nominations both Keith and Alexander nominated Perez with piss poor reasons. It could have been bc he was just annoying - but if I was Perez, I would be on high alert right now.

If you are a gay person and you are in a space with other people who you are making uncomfortable, it is really fucking obvious. Like, really. And it is kind of debilitating when nothing is actually said - you just feel it and feel the pressure to monitor the way you are moving/speaking/being. If I picked up on their discomfort around him through the tv - on a show which by the way will have been heavily edited in favour of these straight men, Perez would have felt it, and felt it pretty fucking strongy. I think he thought fuck this, I know what you’re thinking, I want you to say it. We’re on national tv, if you’re going to make me feel like this, I’m going to get something out of it.

What’s important here (and my point in giving that context up there) is that we are not just talking about the f word. Alexander also said “If we were in America, you know what you’d get. You know.” He means a fucking gay-bashing. He knows it, Perez knows it, everyone else there knows it. Most relevant to Michelle here is what happened next, with Katie Hopkins. She followed him, only feet behind him calling him “disgusting”, “revolting” and made comments about the way he moved and his “arse”. That is - I’ve said this so much already but so - absolutely rife with homophobic undertones.

So, what the situation is now is someone being attacked by the majority of the house, bullying, but more so, a bullying that is now homophobia-charged. Whether or not that is the source of people’s dislike for Perez I don’t know, but undoubtedly, homophobia is now being used in the bullying. Michelle Visage is enthusiastically, directly aligned herself with both Alexander but more importantly, Katie Hopkins. In this kind of charged situation, at the very least she should have declared herself neutral. By being very much on the opposite side of Perez, very much with Katie, she is saying ‘I’m OK with what you are doing, keep going guys, I am for this.’

I wanted her to say fuck it, this is not OK, not even for Perez. Homophobia is being used here and that is not alright - I am not part of this. Saying ‘don’t use that word’ and then taking Katie and Alex’s side anyway means absolutely nothing. She should have saw the homophobia and said, fuck this, that’s not alright and 1.) I will not align myself with the people doing it 2.) I will not give them even more power by also announcing how much I hate Perez. Even if she is not using homophobia, in this context, by positioning herself where she has she is supporting the use of it and giving the people who are more space to use it, more power and actively legitimising their reasons for using it.

When someone is homophobic and your response is ‘I hate him too but not for those homophobic reasons still fucking hate him tho’, you are so obviously fuelling more homophobic behavuour - or giving a get out so they can hide their homophobia beneath the ‘valid’ reasons you have just presented.

Her desire to combat homophobia should override her hatred for Perez - as I’ve said, he deserves to reap the same consequences of being a scumbag that a straight person who’s a scumbag would - ones free entirely of homophobia. She went in there pretending she would protect people in this situation and she has done the exact opposite.

I don’t know why we’re not side-eyeing her to fuck over this. She won’t try and protect anyone from homophobia if they’re not someone she can justify on her own terms as deserving. That’s the definition of a fake, piss poor ally.