An interview between ABC Nightline host Terry Moran and professional maggot/Breitbart grotesquerie Milo Yiannopoulos didn’t go exactly according to plan.

Not that Moran wasn’t onto something. During the course of the exchange, he alternately called Milo “revolting,” an “idiot,” and accused him of having the mentality of a “13-year-old” boy.

We imagine 13-year-old boys will be firing away angry screeds on Twitter.

During the story, which was all about “trolling,” ABC described Yiannopoulos as “the tip of the iceberg in a rising tide of hate and abuse in social media, one he clearly sees as a noble purpose.”

Moran wondered if Yiannopoulos would be willing to call Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones a “dude” if she were standing before him. (Yiannopoulos has particularly been targeting her on Twitter, for some ungodly reason.) He responded that he “probably would.”

“Then you’re an idiot,” Moran fumed. “You’re going to go after somebody’s body to go after their ideas? Are you a 13-year-old?”

As peroxided millennial homocon silverfish are wont to do, Yiannopoulous tries to paint himself as a “virtuous troll” who’s doing “God’s work.” He reckons himself a social engineer and Situationist prankster who gamely jabs at sensitive issues in order to get the people talking.

“My rudeness creates conversation,” he crows, “provokes people into saying oh what a monster, and then 20% of people start talking about what I was actually saying I will consider my career to be a terrific success.”

Watch the back-and-forth here. We should warn you he’s a total bummer: