If HongKong ‘is’ a part of china because it ‘was’ a part of the so-called china, should England be “returned” to Italy (Roman Empire?) Ladykylie Follow Aug 9, 2019 · 3 min read

To those who keep saying ‘Hong kong has always been a part of china and it will always be’ — — well you know this is hardly the truth.

Before 1841, Hong Kong was part of the Manchurian Empire, and PRC China doesn’t even exist. If one accepts that Hong Kong was part of PRC as a precedent, it would mean that most countries in Europe should be ‘returned’ to Italy since they were part of Roman Empire. Many Eastern European countries should be under Russian rule forever, since they were part of USSR.

What defines an area is not necessarily its geographical history, but the culture, how they see themselves, hopes and aspirations of a people. The time of kings, emperors and top down politics has passed. In a modern world people should be free to embrace their own destiny and how they wish to interact, do business and be judged by each other.

If you say it was ‘invaded’, when to draw the line? Canton was not part of the Empire in the map once. Tibet was not in china’s map 1000 years ago. Shouldn’t china let Tibet go?

All the independence countries should be ‘returned’ somewhere then?

If a country ruling yours is obviously a tyrannical regime, and you say you have been on the same map once so you have to let them do whatever to you, this is just a slavery thinking.

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As said a long time ago. If you say because we speak the “same language” and we are the “same races” — sorry again but we aren’t. Cantonese and Mandarin are very different languages. To say they are both “Chinese” and Cantonese is just a dialect, it is as non-sense as saying German is a dialect of English, and they are the ‘same’ languages since they are both “European”.

People understand the logic is wrong when applied to the west, but come to Asia, everything non-sense make senses to them.

As of the people (races) most Hong Kongers are Cantonese and mixed races. Not all Eurasian sort of mix but a lot of half south east Asian, half south Asian, or full blood South Asian. Cantonese is a race referring to “Yue” in ancient times, when Chinese are “Han”. The truth is Hong Kongers were told they are Hans, but they mostly aren’t.

And why same ‘races’ has to stuck together? Isn’t it racists?

If the logic of speaking same language should be stuck together, than Australia, America, Canada, UK, New Zealand ,and Singapore etc should all be one country under … the UK? Austria and 70% of Switzerland should be ‘united” with Germany? Most of the south American countries are part of Spain?

I can go on. Opium war yeah, CCP China sold more opium to their people more than the UK. Not that UK was right but chinese loves grabbing this point to talk about but they don’t even know china grew so much opium to poison their own people. （search ‘yan’an and communist yourself. Stop barking ‘where’s your reference’ – There is a thing call Google)

I will make a stop here. Please think about it before standing on china’s side to step on Hong Kongers, who are in a difficult battle now.

(Oh P.S. for those Chinese cyber trolls who keep saying what is the logic here, in this case Northern Ireland should be ‘returned’ to Ireland and Scotland should be independence. Well if the people who lives there want it, than be it! I’m not going to be offended by this but you are being offended by everything that doesn’t belong to you and that you can’t fully control it. Control freaks ….)

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