Quote from: HotRoderX on Thu, 26 October 2017, 14:42:15 Quote from: wholypantalones on Thu, 26 October 2017, 10:27:07 You had piqued my interest until I saw the price and then the raffle completely killed any interest I did have.





if going to be brutally honest I agree with the above. I also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy. I mean understand the first buy you got burned.. that sucks.. but perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy. Where quality would have been higher.. cost lower and units produced could meet demand!



I mean like said want a TKL. I would have been in the market for this are time if the prices would have been more reasonable. While time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable. This comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy. I just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking. The hype this item is getting is startling to say the least and shows me perhaps I am not as hardcore a enthusiast as some who must buy everything they see regardless.



Though do wish you good luck with the group buy raffle can't really call it a group buy its more a artisan raffle then Group buy. hope things work out nicely for you! and that all units sale. but if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.



So what makes this lower quality than the first group buy? Because it doesn't have a weight? Because it doesn't offer as many colours? The entire point of local manufacturing is higher quality, better qc, less lead time, and being able to effectively communicate what I need and want to my manufacturer.



Also to explain the MOQ and hard limit of 50, I'm one person, a lot of things went wrong in v1 and a large part of that was allowing it to be overly complicated with colour combinations and a higher quantity.



Frankly I'm a little insulted that you're suggesting I just stick to designing and leave myself out of the production of it, but I can understand that people want something to be cheaper and have wider availability.



Didn't mean to offend ya but yea... its not a group buy its a raffle for a pre production product.As far as quality goes this one just doesn't look to be up to the same quality as previous buy. There fewer color's to select from and the lack of brass weight that is inserted also are any weight. What I can tell this one just has a maple leaf milled into the back of the aluminum for the case.At 400 dollars I expect lots of color options outside of the standard norms. I expect a brass weight and perhaps a brass plate to boot. Perhaps my expectations are askew thought I don't think so. They are just my expectations thought. There not for everyone. I Knew posting what I did might cause some ripples but o will. I think my opinion is just as valid as those who praise the product.Yes I think the v1 was extremely nice and asking for help is never a bad thing. The fact your a single person running the buy is a automatic no thank you! I don't think you have any ill will what so ever. Lets get that clear right now. I think you most likely upstanding person I mean that.There always the life factor that must be balanced into any equation. Things happen and we can't stop them and being a single person.. means if those things happen during a fulfillment such as this it could mean obvious downtime and delay's and much more. That's another reason I would suggest having least 1 or 2 more people helping are handing it off to a team of people. As some of the group buys are done for keycaps like Candykey's are ZFrontier. That way if something happens people aren't left in the dark. This might sound cold but its not meant to be once again its just one very unpopular opinion and I still wish you the very best of luck with your Raffle. I hope things go smoothly. I hope everything is fulfilled. Perhaps I look like a jerk when people start posting there first builds and it blows all expectations away.