South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg defended his position on abolishing the electoral college Sunday at CNN’s town hall, stating that the presidential candidate “who gets the most votes ought to be the person that wins.”

Buttigieg has made this position central to his 2020 pitch and Democrats are moved by it, in part, because Hillary Clinton received over 3 million more votes in the 2016 election.

“We ought to make sure that everybody has the same voice,” he said. “In Indiana write live because our state is very conservative, most years we have no voice at all in the presidential process. The same is true for some big states and some small states, some because they are liberal. All of them disfranchised and without a voice in the presidential process.”

Buttigieg also suggested upping the number of Supreme Court justices from nine to 15.

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