FORT BENNING, Ga. — President Donald Trump apparently doesn’t like modern weaponry.

In a new interview with reporters, Trump railed against what he referred to as “cartridge,” likely referring to the all-in-one primer, bullet and propellant systems used by modern militaries around the world.

The Army is currently considering a new cartridge-based system as a replacement for the M16 family of rifles. These weapons would likely use an “intermediate” caliber, somewhere between the standard 5.56mm and 7.62mm used in infantry rifles and machine guns. A larger caliber would be designed to ensure a rifle platoon could hit targets with more force at a longer range, among other benefits.

Here’s what Trump told Duffel Blog:

You know the gun is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our cartridge system. He said well, we’re going to this because we wanted to have better range on our weapons. I said you don’t use black powder anymore for gun? No sir. I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the blackpowder with grapeshot is just brutal. You see that sucker going and shrapnel going all over the place, there’s burning gases thrown up in the air, big, big explosion, very strong.”

And it’s very complicated, you have to be Samuel Colt to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to buy more cartridge. New ones. That use cartridge. I said what system are you going to be–”Sir, we’re staying with cartridge.” I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned black powder, the cartridge costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good. Cartridge.

At press time, it was unclear who exactly Trump spoke with, whether that person had any authority to actually implement the policy, or if the conversation even happened in real life.

An Army spokeswoman did not immediately respond to comment.