-CheekyDuck- Profile Joined August 2010 Australia 398 Posts Last Edited: 2013-04-18 02:17:01 #1 Edit: Have removed all irrelevant drama, will post later a more relevant and clear post, which will better reflect the information of this serious issue.



Email section from Amanda to David Ting (cc:Gus, Bcc:djoaniel)



Amanda writes:

"Well apparently there's a stipulation in the law here that says I can't be jailed for collectibles"



full email

+ Show Spoiler + Well apparently there's a stipulation in the law here that says I can't be jailed for collectibles but I can be held accountable for interest since it is a debt.(Which I breathe a sigh of relief)



I work in a travel agency and I must turn in the money owed to the airlines during the due date of the bank settlement plan. Basically if I don't turn in the full amount by the week of the 21st the agency I work for will be "closed" or will be blocked from issuing tickets from any airline to any destination until the amount is settled. Basically office operations will be stopped. Originally the amount was to have been settled by tomorrow (11 Nov) but I am trying to buy time and like atleast guarantee the office that amount can be settled.



I am well you can say somewhat the guarantor of the tickets. I asked permission to issue tickets and release in advance without receiving full payment yet. (this is not our usual practice unless its been a long time corporate account thats been dealing with us)



In Php it's Php 515,878 less the $ 7000 I approximately will still have a remainder to be paid which has to be settled by the due date.



The amount in the bills are non negotiable. (Sadly enough)



Please let me know what to do next and what will else be needed. As soon as the money has been transfered, I will scan the withdrawal slip and receipt that will prove that I have given the money to the accounting section of our office.



Thank you very much!



Statement from dox



Have removed all irrelevant drama, will post later a more relevant and clear post, which will better reflect the information of this serious issue.(cc:Gus, Bcc:djoaniel)Amanda writes:"Well apparently there's a stipulation in the law here that says Ibe jailed for collectibles"full email



My original blog (http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=283600 - November 8th, 2011) was based on the information circulating the event, including the following quotes:



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Quote from TheGunRun:

Amanda post paid for the tickets with the agency, if Gus doens't pay her the agency can run after her and put her in jail.



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Quote from Dox:

This is a message from Amanda who is possibly facing jail if this is not resolved imminently:

"I issued a total of php 715,000 worth of tickets. 200,000 has been paid, so the outstanding debt is close to php 516,000. Told gunrun already and like im really hoping people in the community can help as being jailed is a possibility for me. I am connected to a travel agency that is why."



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I can't claim to know whether or not Amanda was actually at risk of facing jail. I have no reason to disbelieve it either. All I knew is what was reported. I wasn't at the event. I had nothing to do with the event. I was just another spectator watching as the events unfolded online. More expensive than a mothership

ch33psh33p Profile Blog Joined October 2010 3039 Posts #2 Damn son.

Why did this only come out now? secret - never again

mrRoflpwn Profile Blog Joined February 2011 United States 2611 Posts #3 what... Why even bring this up again. I mean I guess the community was wrong. But it was so long ago that no one cares really. Long live the Boss Toss!

DarkPlasmaBall Profile Blog Joined March 2010 United States 38904 Posts #4 A year and a half later? This seems oddly suspicious. One would think this would have become a controversial, debatable issue if all of this actually came out at the time. "There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100

Zaphid Profile Blog Joined April 2010 Czech Republic 1494 Posts Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:28:32 #5 That is some pretty good evidence.



Still, why is this coming out now ? I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP

PulSe312 Profile Joined October 2012 Australia 5 Posts #6 This is pointless, let the past rest. Even though the community is wrong, that was close to 1 and a half years ago and isn't even remotely relevant anymore. There is no need for this here. Opposition is the force which makes you strive to improve.

germs Profile Joined June 2011 Philippines 3 Posts #7 Because PPSL2 is coming up. germs.540

Chaggi Profile Joined August 2010 Korea (South) 1934 Posts #8 Wasn't this in 2011? How come it's coming out now? Why the late timing?

QuanticDualan Profile Joined March 2013 28 Posts Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:36:39 #9 I'm not buying a single thing as of now. The money was mismanaged for sure as some of the players did not have any hotel rooms and had to live in the staff's house. I was there during the event and WHATEVER people say everything was poorly managed. Plus there's the issue of sickness being promised ram and salary which he never got.

chullore Profile Joined February 2012 Australia 65 Posts Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:33:48 #10 better late than never



unfortunately for Gus Ledesma, his rep has been tarnished and he'll never want to/have the chance to host another e-sports event again.



Always interesting to see the underhanded/(unprofessional?) activities by everyone involved though!

-CheekyDuck- Profile Joined August 2010 Australia 398 Posts #11 it has taken me a few months to get all the information verified and compiled.



Gus wasn't able to come forward as it meant people would not get paid.

after he trusted me with the email accounts (that he froze)



i uncovered what Amanda did.



Gus had to sell his computer to put food on the table for his family, he lost his job and still too this day gets spit on if he enters a computer lab.



you can say i guess it is relevant to him.



The community needs to know the truth.

More expensive than a mothership

TargA Profile Joined December 2010 Norway 203 Posts Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:38:20 #12 Dox was aware of stream cheating, but went ahead with the results. (This is the only information that is solely based on CD's verbal testimony and not a screenshot)





who stream cheated? Progamer On October 26 2013 00:10 Nerchio wrote: Shoutout to Targa, best zerg in europe || http://twitter.com/#!/TargA01

NUKS Profile Joined December 2010 Philippines 14 Posts Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:38:35 #13 Rossi, accdg to this post. rofl.

{ToT}ColmA Profile Joined November 2007 Japan 3127 Posts #14 streamcheating part is the only thing that would be "nice to know" anything else is not relevant for me as esport guys are for the most part not trustworthy so no news for me there The only virgins in kpop left are the fans

PengWin_SC Profile Blog Joined October 2011 Switzerland 433 Posts #15 Yeah, not buying it. Director of Operations for PSISTORM Gaming

Scarecrow Profile Blog Joined July 2009 Korea (South) 8984 Posts Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:43:58 #16 On April 15 2013 21:12 -CheekyDuck- wrote:

Please allow me to share with you the truth, which many people have tried to hide, deny and hold ransom, for self preservation, promotion and profit. What you do with it, is up to you.



This isn't a Marvel film, stop being so bloody melodramatic. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by digging all this up and the only new villain seems to be Amanda. Dox moved the date of an event back so the best Aussie could compete and was probably in the dark on the details (like flights) through having to communicate with the organisational black-hole that was Ledesma. Best not to forget that Gus is still largely responsible for the massive cock-up that was the actual event. The 'truth' sub-headings also make this look far from objective.



How the fuck is one person seeing 'tarossi' in a stream chat box evidence enough to lynch both rossi and dox? This is more of a hatchet job than the original drama. This isn't a Marvel film, stop being so bloody melodramatic. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by digging all this up and the only new villain seems to be Amanda. Dox moved the date of an event back so the best Aussie could compete and was probably in the dark on the details (like flights) through having to communicate with the organisational black-hole that was Ledesma. Best not to forget that Gus is still largely responsible for the massive cock-up that was the actual event. The 'truth' sub-headings also make this look far from objective.How the fuck is one person seeing 'tarossi' in a stream chat box evidence enough to lynch both rossi and dox? This is more of a hatchet job than the original drama. Yhamm is the god of predictions

frugalfungal Profile Joined February 2011 Singapore 17 Posts #17 na m8

TheDougler Profile Joined April 2010 Canada 8172 Posts #18 Wow... Talk about two sides to every coin. I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)

k!llua Profile Blog Joined March 2010 Australia 892 Posts #19 Sure, we can let old events stay in the past, or we can dig them back up and cover serious allegations of fraud, theft and clear the name of someone who has been severely damaged -- both personally and professionally because of the actions of others.



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Nah, why the fuck would we want to do that? my hair is a wookie, your argument is invalid

Grettin Profile Joined April 2010 32020 Posts #20 I still can't believe how "Gus" handled things and acted 1½ years ago. Good grief that was painful. "If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu

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