Post by MarcosZeitola » June 1st, 2014, 10:54 am

jtest28 wrote: Man, thats a good point. And its one i have been wondering about every so often since i have gotten engaged to a Filipina. I too, when I was there, saw the same things you mentioned. And even in the USA, a girl born to a white man and a Filipina would likely do well. But I do worry what if we have sons and they live here in the USA. I mean, theres exceptions, but I'm inclined to believe the women here would see them as lower than they do even their own pure white men.

publicduende wrote: Very interesting question. First of all, as you realise, your daughter has Spanish and Filipino (Malay or Polynesian ancestry) genes and that bodes very well in the looks department.



Remember though that it's always nature and nurture, and the way you bring your child and the surroundings she will have in her first few years of her life will shape much of her future life.



For the little I know about Filipino history, I know it's still a heavily partitioned society, with a pecking order that favours old colonial ancestry, mostly Spanish but also French and German ancestry, and then Chinese and Korean/Japanese to a (much) lesser extent. I don't know which branch of society your wife belongs to, but I can assume that, given your young age, you have yet to establish yourself in the Philippines. Finding a good job and good "titos" (older people who will like to be your sponsor at work or in life) is probably more important than ever right now.



If you were to have a son, what you call an "Eurasian son", his chances in the Philippines will be probably dictated more by the place in Filipino society you will have managed to secure for yourself and your family by then, than how he looks like. Outside the Philippines...it's hard to say, as different flavours of an exotic look can come and go like the wind. Perhaps in a few years a few half-Asian actors or models will smash the scene, everybody will look up to them and if your son happens to look like them, he will have (involuntarily) hit jackpot.



Jokes apart, I wouldn't worry too much about your son becoming an Elliott Rodger. With a healthy (more than wealthy) family and a warm, inclusive society like the Filipino, and perhaps a hint of discipline from one of those Jesuit schools and colleges, he will grow up just fine.

jtest28 wrote: MarcosZeitola wrote: So, my focus here is as much on the future as it is on the here and now... and because of this I ask: what are the future dating prospects of Eurasian sons, those born to western men who went abroad and found love and stability in Asia? I would say, "define Asia". In the Philippines, half white sons would do better, but in other parts of Asia, I think it wouldn't be as good for them. I would say, "define Asia". In the Philippines, half white sons would do better, but in other parts of Asia, I think it wouldn't be as good for them.

That has been my feeling, and my worry, too. I've seen quite a few mixed White-Indonesians, Indo's, who have been able to date white women. A good number of them married these men and had children. When it comes to Filipino's I can't say I have as many references when it comes to their romantic success in the Western world. I know a lot of them work abroad as foreign workers making money for their respective families in the Philippines. From my experience there they mostly stick to their own. The men, that is; their women frequently date and marry Western men abroad.I am not a very rich man myself and neither is my wife's family. I would say they are middle class as both her parents are professionals, but since they have been in financial trouble for the past year or so they are a lot less affluent then many people in, say, Manila or some other bigger city. They live in a very small rural town way back in the province. By the town's standards they are relatively well-to-do, though they are in some debt.I myself am not rich, contrary to what many of them seem to expect from Westerners. They see a Western man and instantly assume he must be a man of means. By now they understand this is not the case with me. Still be in-laws were instantly quite smitten with me: they said they were very much looking forward to the idea of having "white grandchildren". In the village they live in there is but a single half-foreign kid, and her father is Nepalese. My daughter is therefore the only half-white child in the entire extended area. As such she has already attracted a bit of attention and likely will attract much more in the years to come, when she will go to school.So, yeah, I am not a man of wealth and I am not a man of high standing. Still my Western looks and my background make me stand out and I assume this will also work the same way for my children. Average height for a man seems to be about 5'5" and maybe 5'3" or less for a woman. With my six feet I am the second tallest man in the entire village. For this reason alone I can see any potential son I might have stand out. Probably in a positive way, in the eyes of the town's female populace. If he ever decides to come to the West again it will be a major culture shock. Assuming I'd have a son of around 5'9", he would be a tall man in the Philippines. In my country however he would be below the national average by quite a bit as it is one of the world's tallest nations.All my children have dual citizenship and this is something I wish to make use of; I want to give them the ability to study in my country when the time comes that they have the right age for it. I have a relatively large extended family in my own country that could help them be at home. It is a question that definitely intrigues me.If they were to move to Korea or Japan, or perhaps China, I believe they likely would do less well. I know especially the Japanese to be quite focused on their own homogeneity as a society. However I would prefer for my sons not to settle in such nations as they are largely impotent nations at this point with very low birthrates and quite troublesome relations between the sexes. The culture of South Korea is one that I believe to be too Westernizes in nature, with many career driven women who don't focus on things like marriage or a family until mid-thirties or later. Japan is likewise in many ways, but also puts extremely high pressure on people when it comes to jobs and responsibilities. One of the reasons for me to move to the Philippines is because I feel live is a bit more... mellow, and easy going, there.And mellow and easy going is a lot more "me" then extremely long shifts with very little free time and or vacation days. I wouldn't ever be happy in a country like Japan or South Korea and I doubt my sons ever would if they are a bit like their father. Still, there may be a world-traveler's gene at work here that will make them, too, seek out new environments and take on adventures of their own. It's only natural for a young man to try and find his place in this world after all. For what it's worth... I found mine.