Wheylous wrote: I'd like to point you to the responses from Reddit:







Their claims are that the data you're using for Africa is fairly bad, which makes a good study of gun-homicide correlation impossible.

Well, contrary to the title, I haven't claimed that Somalia had the highest firearm-ownership rate of Eastern Africa. That was quite incorrect of your part Wheylous. But anyway, yes, I've read the responses, but they didn't seem to go beyond pointing out that we ought not to defend gun-statistics or Somalia, which they — if they've actually read the thread — would know to be besides the point. One guy claimed that the data on Somalia (not Africa) is quite bad, but I responded with the fact that Somalia, by being involved in an international conflict with the UN and Western nations, is far more regulated by international statistical bureaus than surrounding countries. Quite a coincidence, since my best friend's father just returned from Somalia, where he worked as a Marine official to take care of pirates and local crime (including homicides). I would say that the UNODC data on Somalia is far more correct than the data on surrounding Eastern-African nations; who suffer from far less meddling of the UN. Despite all that, I haven't even noted that the annual homicide rate in Somalia is just 1,5there being an civil war and international conflict going on. If you account for that, the real homicide rates would probably be a lot lower. But at the very least, I'm confident enough to say that I've determined the fact that Somalia; despite — or maybe because of — being stateless for quite a long period of time, has been faring far better than any surrounding country in the Eastern-African region. Invalidating any 'Somalia argument' statists can throw at us.