





BoR VS Abyssus



Note: I currently am not using IRON REFLEXES in the defence tabs. ( so my armor will be more later of course)



Current Skill Tree:

http://tinyurl.com/l7oxtsv



Current Stats with BoR:



Heavy Stike:

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Ground Slam:

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Defence:

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Current Stats with Abyssus:



Heavy Strike:

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Ground Slam:

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Defence:

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So my problem here is that my damage can be a lot more using Abyssus but as always there is the downside of Abyssus (40% More Physical damage taken).



I currently run 6 endurance charges (via endurance charge on stun + CODT enduring cry) and plan on getting the 7th soon. Im also running CODT with Immortal call + increased duration. With my current levels and setup immortal call lasts 7-8 seconds . Now adding the 7th endurance charge + Quality increased duration + the duration nodes by marauder tree i think i will be somewhere in the 9-11 seconds range , which helps a lot with the 40% damage taken from abyssus. Another thing that will help is getting a 1800-2500 armor chest . ( currently using Belly of the beast in the defence screenshot in the abyssus tab) which should help a lot!



As for the BoR the positives are 3x Level 18 gems for free + can run blood magic which will allow me to run hatred+grace, and of course the downside being i cant use a chest for more armor.





Discussion and thought will help me a lot here.



THANKS AHEAD OF TIME! :) So im trying to figure out what to do here.Current Skill Tree:Current Stats with BoR:Heavy Stike:Ground Slam:Defence:Current Stats with Abyssus:Heavy Strike:Ground Slam:Defence:So my problem here is that my damage can be a lot more using Abyssus but as always there is the downside of Abyssus (40% More Physical damage taken).I currently runendurance charges (via endurance charge on stun + CODT enduring cry) and plan on getting the 7th soon. Im also running CODT with Immortal call + increased duration. With my current levels and setup immortal call lasts. Now adding the 7th endurance charge + Quality increased duration + the duration nodes by marauder tree i think i will be somewhere in the, which helps a lot with the 40% damage taken from abyssus. Another thing that will help is getting a. ( currently using Belly of the beast in the defence screenshot in the abyssus tab) which should help a lot!As for the BoR the positives are 3x Level 18 gems for free + can run blood magic which will allow me to run hatred+grace, and of course the downside being i cant use a chest for more armor.Discussion and thought will help me a lot here. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, it is that we are powerful beyond measure. Last edited by AwaitingApril on Feb 22, 2014, 6:09:10 AM Posted by

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Put a lightning Coil on to offset the damage of Abyssus. I W I N GG

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" DivineOregon Put a lightning Coil on to offset the damage of Abyssus.



Well im already having a hard enough time trying to keep my lightning resists @ cap so im running Purity of light, so that wouldnt allow me to run grace still. :\ Well im already having a hard enough time trying to keep my lightning resists @ cap so im running Purity of light, so that wouldnt allow me to run grace still. :\ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, it is that we are powerful beyond measure. Posted by

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The all attributes on it scale really nice with PotCG and allows you to also use a chest with attributes on it aswell.



" AwaitingApril Well im already having a hard enough time trying to keep my lightning resists @ cap so im running Purity of light



You might also get to use a chest with Lightning Resistance and then swap Purity of Lightning for something more useful.



Also the 40% increased damage taken on Abyssus isn't as scary as it sounds (specially with 7-8 endurance chargers) because it is applied AFTER all mitigation (hence it doesn't reduce the effectiveness of armor). You're even using Immortal Call which should pretty much make you immune to physical damage when needed (completely mitigating downside of Aby). IMO, use Abyssus.The all attributes on it scale really nice with PotCG and allows you to also use a chest with attributes on it aswell.You might also get to use a chest with Lightning Resistance and then swap Purity of Lightning for something more useful.Also the 40% increased damage taken on Abyssus isn't as scary as it sounds (specially with 7-8 endurance chargers) because it is applied AFTER all mitigation (hence it doesn't reduce the effectiveness of armor). You're even using Immortal Call which should pretty much make you immune to physical damage when needed (completely mitigating downside of Aby). Posted by

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" Grughal Also the 40% increased damage taken on Abyssus isn't as scary as it sounds (specially with 7-8 endurance chargers) because it is applied AFTER all mitigation (hence it doesn't reduce the effectiveness of armor). You're even using Immortal Call which should pretty much make you immune to physical damage when needed (completely mitigating downside of Aby).



It doesn't. It's applied before mitigation, and it is scary. 'Damage taken' is pretty misleading there, 'damage dealt to you' would be more informative but it wouldn't be 100% correct.



7 Endurance charges can offset abyssus only if you don't have any armor to speak of, if you do they aren't enough.



With abyssus and lightning coil you actually take 16% less physical damage than normal so it more than makes up for abyssus penalty. If you can manage lightning resist penalty with gear and aura go for that, otherwise go for BoR. It doesn't. It's applied before mitigation, and it is scary. 'Damage taken' is pretty misleading there, 'damage dealt to you' would be more informative but it wouldn't be 100% correct.7 Endurance charges can offset abyssus only if you don't have any armor to speak of, if you do they aren't enough.With abyssus and lightning coil you actually take 16% less physical damage than normal so it more than makes up for abyssus penalty. If you can manage lightning resist penalty with gear and aura go for that, otherwise go for BoR. Есть один путь - наверх!



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" Mark_GGG " Namcap Does it come after armor reduction or before any mitigation is applied? After. Modifiers to the amount of Damage Taken always apply after mitigation.

The Attackers modifiers to damage (dealt) are applied to work out the base damage of the hit, then the defender's armour/resistances/other mitigation are applied to this to work out damage taken. This value is then affected by any and all modifiers to damage taken. After. Modifiers to the amount of Damage Taken always apply after mitigation.The Attackers modifiers to damage (dealt) are applied to work out the base damage of the hit, then the defender's armour/resistances/other mitigation are applied to this to work out damage taken. This value is then affected by any and all modifiers to damage taken.



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I messed around with BoR more and i think i got myself to a stable situation.



Heavy strike dps:



Spoiler



Ground Slam dps:

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EDIT: THESE STATS ARE NOW WITH IRON REFLEXES

Defence w/o endurance charges:

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Defence with endurance charges:

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See the problem with running abyssus for me is i cant really afford/find a decent 6L chest. (which would allow me to use blood magic on my ground slam)



Without a 6 link chest i cant run grace+hatred because then i dont have enough mana to use my abilitys, and then i have to run a garbage mana leech ring.



ie:

^replacement: wish the dex was str. ;_;



Before i was running 5L(potcg) Ground slam+melee physical+added fire+multistrike+endurance charge on stun( to keep immortal call up 24/7 for abyssus mitigation)



and 4L (chest) Heavy strike+melee physical+added fire+faster attacks.



Running hatred+purity of light allow me to have just enough mana(with leeching) to use my abilitys.



SO all in all if i can ever find a decent/cheaper 6L chest then i will prolly switch to abyssus for more dps, but until then i guess im on the BoR Hype train Thanks for the feedback by everyone.I messed around with BoR more and i think i got myself to a stable situation.Heavy strike dps:Ground Slam dps:Defence w/o endurance charges:Defence with endurance charges:See the problem with running abyssus for me is i cant really afford/find a decent 6L chest.Without a 6 link chest i cant run grace+hatred because then i dont have enough mana to use my abilitys, and then i have to run a garbage mana leech ring.ie:^replacement:wish the dex was str. ;_;Before i was running 5L(potcg) Ground slam+melee physical+added fire+multistrike+endurance charge on stun( to keep immortal call up 24/7 for abyssus mitigation)and 4L (chest) Heavy strike+melee physical+added fire+faster attacks.Running hatred+purity of light allow me to have just enough mana(with leeching) to use my abilitys.SO all in all if i can ever find a decent/cheaper 6L chest then i will prolly switch to abyssus for more dps, but until then i guess im on the BoR Hype train Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, it is that we are powerful beyond measure. Last edited by AwaitingApril on Feb 22, 2014, 12:00:14 PM Posted by

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