“It hurt quite a lot, the way it was represented. She trusts me, we trust each other, and she said ‘What are they talking about?’ I explained that I was trying to say that in the homeland the situation is far from ideal, more women need to try to be conductors. Around the world, there used to be only men in the orchestras. Now there are many women, and it’s simply because more of them were taking the profession of musician seriously. She knows me and she knows her own story, and eventually she said ‘Yeah I believe you’.”