May 05 20:14:21 <ky1e> yeah, de-list

May 05 20:14:42 <ky1e> *that I know of

May 05 20:14:46 <ky1e> could be wrong

May 05 20:14:53 <nalixor> eh

May 05 20:15:00 <dakta> I loathe undelete, and am of the opinion that they are in violation of the spirit of the user agreement's clause on not interfering with users removing content.

May 05 20:15:01 <nalixor> I doubt /r/books would feature on undelete

May 05 20:15:09 <nalixor> dakta, I agree.

May 05 20:15:17 <ky1e> but with subreddits like that, and /r/redditcensorship, it's become very hard to be mods in high-tempered subreddits

May 05 20:15:26 <ky1e> where the mod teams really matter

May 05 20:15:37 <nalixor> it seems like a lot of pressure.

May 05 20:15:45 <dakta> If the admins think they have some responsibility to the "spirit of free speech" that they cannot shut that shut down, they're sorely mistaken.

May 05 20:15:46 <ky1e> I mean, it can be

May 05 20:16:17 <nalixor> dakta, I think the problem is probably that you can't effectively stop people from doing that.

May 05 20:16:28 <nalixor> if they ban undelete

May 05 20:16:32 <dakta> I don't think they really appreciate how much trouble that, and their general lack of engagement with the community, has caused, and how much frustration it creates.

May 05 20:16:33 <nalixor> undelete2 pops up

May 05 20:16:37 <nalixor> doing the same thing

May 05 20:16:59 <dakta> And speaking as a moderator, who has to deal with users who do similar things, I've got this to say:

May 05 20:17:18 <dakta> The only way to deal with shit like that is to sit on it until you drive away the people behind it.

May 05 20:17:30 <nalixor> I think these people are determined.