In an interview heavy on economic populism, Donald Trump’s chief strategist Steve Bannon told The Hollywood Reporter he wants to ditch the Republican Party establishment and start over. "Like (Andrew) Jackson's populism, we're going to build an entirely new political movement," he said. And that’s not all:

“Darkness is good. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they (liberals) get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."

Hurrah for honesty, at least. Even Dick Cheney, who certainly inhabited the dark side, didn’t—at least publicly—praise Satan. Bannon could have mentioned some others imbued with the darkness-is-good vibe: Silvio Berlusconi, Augusto Pinochet, Francisco Franco. But that would have been too honest.

The guy known for what NPR tepidly describes as “racially insensitive” remarks denies that he is a “white nationalist.”

"I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist," he said in the interview. "The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f---ed over. If (the Trump White House delivers), we'll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we'll govern for 50 years. That's what the Democrats missed. [...] "It's everything related to jobs. The conservatives are going to go crazy. I'm the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it's the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We're just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement."

If you experienced a bit of cognitive dissonance reading about that infrastructure idea because it sounds quite a bit like something heard for a decade from large portions of the left—originally from outside the Democratic Party, and subsequently from many prominent members in it—you’re right.