[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:15

you dont think you can ship with a sub model in place and the costume pay to wear now or earn later model as a "this will be here month #"

also the digital box sales from those who missed the kickstarter

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:24

Those are the digital box sales, mind you. Without the unlocks, such as auras, there is nothing to sell.

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:25

Have you considered having peoples monthly sub earn them in game dollars that add up until the store opens?

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:26

Yes, then studied it. Illegal in 14 markets

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:26

which part. that seems odd

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:26

Most of Europe

falls under some odd telecommunications laws

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:27

so you cant have us pay for access to the game and reward us with in game currency?

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:27

We can, only if there is something to spend such currency on already available

Hence, the unlocks

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:27

put a single shoulder cat in the shop call it April, the 1st costume.

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:28

Again, falls under legal problems

Europe isn't like the US, where you can put a single item up and claim all is available

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:28

Whats the threshold?

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:29

Must have as much available as can be purchased in a single go, unique each time. So, must have at least $18 worth available, new, each month

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:30

so... an $18 blue cat.. then an $18 red octopus ^_^

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:30

And the price must not be inflated

so, we would need to demonstrate value

So, we worked out the easiest path.

As it stands, we look to have a few thousand worth of digital goods of suitable value available by the end of the year ready

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:33

yeah, just meant that finding digital stuff worth stupid amounts isnt the worst hurdle

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:33

I know. But best if we don't need to dig for it

Especially as we need to make the stuff anyways

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:33

didnt the kickstarter have a design a thing in game tier as well

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:34

A few. Those need the chargen in place before we can implement

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:35

oh, if you do want to look at digital item value... the mobile games available in all markets can help.

i play monster super league

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:35

Oh indeed

and we have looked, very closely

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:35

$60 for a single final evolution monster is the norm

i play poor person tier >_>

relying on good old rng

for my rare stuff

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:36

which is why we have a play-for-unlocks

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:37

thats after box purchase

are you considering for like week 2 of the game doing "first 5 levels free trial" type deal? if you have it advertised pre launch it could be a pretty good thing... lets those eager in now now now... and those on the fence a chance to taste the game while super new and maybe bite.

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:39

We have a few options we've been exploring there

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:39

most the time when i see a "play it free now!" after the game has been out a bit, its to try to stop a loss of subs, but i havent seen a game use it as a recruitment on game birth

do you have a count yet on free costumes on launch vs can buy costumes on launch?

or at least a goal number

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:42

Count will need to be closer. The target is 40 free per section.

(so, head, hair, arm, each is a section)

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:43

yeah i figured

with how many purchase per section

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:44

That we will need to be closer to know

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:45

IMO: as a person who has paid for the box... knowing i cant get them for however many weeks/months if i dont buy them. Id be a tad miffed if the come buy it section on day 1 was more than 50/50

F2P games id expect it to be like 30/70 free/buy for costumes

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:46

Right

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:46

does that mean there wont be a monthly sub.. or is it still planned that the sub counts towards in game credit if you go that route.

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:49

Still planned.

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:49

any clue on how many costume parts a sub fee would let a player buy

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:50

Depends, individual a la carte, or a bundle.

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:50

makes sense.

so could i for example get... Knight bundle 1. or... Knight helmet, Fishguy gloves, Rocketboots

for the same overall total

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:51

right

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:51

and is it planned that 1 month sub = 1 bundle cost?

as a player that seems like a pretty logical value

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:52

No, 1 month sub would be 3 bundles, roughly

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:52

oh wow

but bundles might not be an entire character

given how many parts you ca change right

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:52

right.

So, a "knight" pack may rely on the free armored chest, but have a unique helmet, gauntlets, fillory, etc

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:55

putting this out there. travel powers, auras, that kind of big flashy stuff would probably not make many people upset if they were worth roughly the same as a bundle

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:55

Indeed.

Hence, the work on them

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:56

are you planning on base bundles?

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:56

I don't know precisely which bundles are being worked on. I'm more on the management side.

And working on maps

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:57

oh, pretty much the last question because im being told that having work tomorrow means i have to go to bed

...im an adult, i sleep when i want >_>

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:57

Work calls to us all

I have... er... 28 roads to place tomorrow

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:58

are the costumes like the fish people going to be only earnable in game?

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 06:58

Don't know, honestly

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 06:58

you might want to toss it in the hat.

like maybe a few are purchasable

but getting lets say 1 million kills of the fish guys earns you a shark face.

someone shouldnt be able to buy the shark face for $1

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 07:00

The more epic the mission to get something neat, the less I would want to see it in a shop

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 07:01

Indeed

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 07:01

Like I could get 80% of a set in the shop, but if I reallllllly want that Harpoon gun... gotta go kill the end boss

players like having a few things that symbolize in game what they have done.

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 07:02

Agreed

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 07:02

WoW got a lot less fun to walk around places when the cash shop and hearthstone cards, and stuff started making everything rare not very rare

Doctor Tyche Aujourd'hui à 07:02

I got the Zookeeper badge the hard way damnit!

[Titan] Steamtank Aujourd'hui à 07:03

Might want to suggest a birthday hat to every account that logs in the 1st week of the games launch

with a #1 on it.

and just repeat that every year :stuck_out_tongue:

thanks for answering some stuff. going to bed. rooting for you guys and gals. You should type that stuff up into another mini update, it was some good info.