shaikgb said: ragnalordmon is seems to be very strong and the next legend arms might not be stronger then him but do they really need to? Click to expand...

shaikgb said: omegamon was the first royal knight to be known and most royal knights are weaker then him Click to expand...

shaikgb said: the future legend arms don't need to be stronger then ragnalordmon they just need to be strong enough to make the 1 that holds them be able to save the world or destroy it Click to expand...

Sparrow Hawk said: If you are worried, then it's alright Durandamon puts its fighting spirit on "Sword Mode" basically he is sorta like "shonen protagonist" won't lose in many rows. Click to expand...

DigiGrader said: However, any new digimon whoudl be good even if they are not on par with these two.

They can also make the new arm digimon have other aspect that Duramon and Ludomon don't have. Click to expand...

Teddyzmon said: IMO, don't take the digimon's descriptions seriously. I like to think that they are written by an in-universe wide-eyed fanboy, who readily hype up each one because he/she loves them too much. Click to expand...

Teddyzmon said: I mean metalgreymon is supposedly as powerful as a nuke, and they are not rarer than the next perfect or anything; so any battle involving them should literally blow up the entire area already. Click to expand...

Teddyzmon said: Even if they say bryweludramon is the strongest shield, I assume that only means that the shield will not break? wikimon only says 'a shield boasting absolute hardness, one that cannot be scratched by any attack,' and not that it can defend against any attack; A strong enough concussive force can probably turn the guy behind the shield into jelly. Click to expand...

Teddyzmon said: tialudomon has this description 'protecting its wielder from any attack that comes their way. ' and its evolution, raijiludomon's description says 'to withstand even an attack from an Ultimate level head-on'

interestingly as the digimon evolves, its protection range seem to get wider, so maybe we can view it like this

tialudomon can protect its WIELDER from ANY attack, implying that its protection is absolute, but can only protect a single wielder at a time, but

raijiludomon can withstand an ultimate level attack, perhaps it can only withstand an ultimate level attack at best, but its protection range increases to 'the entire region'

bryweludramon is simply very hard, but it can cover the entire world.

If this is correct (which is probably not because I'm shoehorning basically lol), it would give Ludomon's line versatility, and it doesn't always have to evolve to its final stage to be useful. Click to expand...

No, they don't need to be, in fact my point is that being strictly universally strongerwhat is in the end unhealthy for the franchise. If the strength is concentrated in specific areas that's fine because that creates vulnerabilities in different contexts. I'm worried about what might see here because it approaches just that level of universal "betterness" which is boring.I'd refer to the comparison page in the V-pet Artbook which illustrates in its battle lineup, in which the Digimon that is defeated first is also the one beating the last winner, that (besides fundamental differences like levels) the power relations are not intended to be strictly linear.You say that but... we don't know that. We mostly just know that Omegamon is an All-Rounder type and for all we know half of the other ones could beat him, or not; it's all up in the air, and that's the beauty of it.Theof a definite ranking makes things interesting. The knights are all very different in the most fantastical aspects. Abilities like Ulforce or Alpha Inforce are so dramatically different in their workings that they are borderline incomparable, so that there is no surefire way to know how they would interact or which of their owners would win a battle.The reason the Legend Arms group doesn't make me feel that way is because their gimmick is basically limited to a specific weapon type and there's just less of that mystery there, we know which kinds of weapons are advantageous against other weapons and that on one hand makes for a richer analysis of their capabilities but of course also makes it easier to spot inaccuracies in their portrayal. And my main fear is that after this they'll end up introducing inaccuracies when trying to make future legend arms seem more effective than they should be.I didn't say it was aproblem, it's not even that big of a hurdle since quite a few Ultimates, Legend Arms or not have powers of that level.Cheap narrative tricks are irrelevant. Not to mention that generic assurances of victory apply to so many Digimon that they basically cancel each other out by now.They could. There's room for ranged weapons since neither shields nor swords do much in that context. The rest would be super specialized and that just doesn't make for a very good... progression I guess? If LordRagnamon is their biggest all-around talent in general I would have preferred him to be introduced near the end at least.I will always take themseriously than most other parts of the franchise, since they are the very core those other parts are based around (unfortunately mostly in underwhelming ways). I also don't feel that they are nearly as hyperbolic as many imply in most cases.That is probably exactly what happens and I don't see any problem with that assumption. Other perfect level Digimon also have the power of nukes, which just means that in Digimon terms of power that's just not that big of a deal.That's a good point I guess but it mostly applies to situations in which there's an actual organic body to be jellyfied. And with current Ultimate designs that's not guaranteed.That would be interesting but my interpretation of abilities described in the profiles is that they are (unless explicitly stated differently like in RaijiLudomon's case or involving manipulating data itself) always described from the context of Digimon at the same or lower level. So if for example it says that Hisyaryumon can "bisect the enemy in a single stroke" this would refer to Perfects or below but notto Ultimates.Needless to say with that interpretation the argument about TiaLudomon and and RaijiLudomon gets reversed.Anyway, Bryweludramon, when he's not fused, is totally fine in both of those cases since his very overspecialization in defense is a sort of handicap. I would have been way happier if he could be part of a fusion between more defensive types of legend to keep that balance.