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Joe Carter’s home run to seal Toronto’s second World Series title remains an indelible memory for Blue Jays fans, almost 22 years later. And it seems at least a couple of players on the losing end are still fixated on it, too.

Mitch Williams, the former Phillies closer, gave up the series-clinching blast to Carter in the bottom of the ninth inning of Game 6 of the 1993 World Series. His thoughts on that moment sparked an ugly spat with former teammate Lenny Dykstra at the Philly Sports Roast in April. Yes, April of 2015.

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Williams, slurring his words, began by revealing what was, in his eyes, the real reason Dykstra was mad about the homer: not the Phillies’ loss, but the fact that it meant Dykstra was denied the MVP award.

Dykstra offered an equally slurred retort, accusing Williams of not knowing the rules of baseball and getting mad when the Phillies padded leads to four runs because it deprived him of save opportunities.