Director of the Central Intelligence Agency John Brennan came to the Brookings Institution on July 13th for a conversation with Brookings Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel on “CIA’s strategy in the face of emerging challenges.” This week on the podcast, we bring you their discussion on a range of topics, from the Arab Spring, to the drone program, to the importance of integration across intelligence agencies—and last, but certainly not least, Donald Trump's call for the use of techniques "worse than waterboarding."