ABC’s Jon Karl on Thursday seems to think he knows better than Robert Mueller when it comes to collusion. Despite the fact that the report concluded no collusion, Karl tried to explain how it could still exist. Regarding material that had only been released an hour earlier, he began, “There's significant material in here we did not know on the question of collusion. Now, of course, there's no finding that anyone in the Trump campaign was guilty of a criminal conspiracy in terms of dealing with the Russians on this.”

After reading from the report, Karl noted, “Ultimately, the conclusion here in this special counsel is it did not rise to the level of a violation of the law.” Karl, who is not a lawyer, declared, “But there is significant contact here. You might even say collusion.”

According to the Attorney General on Thursday, “There was no evidence of the Trump campaign’s collusion of the Russian government’s hacking.”



Karl isn’t the only one living in another world. On MSNBC, Wednesday, Chuck Todd described the “actual collusion” by the Trump administration when it comes to the Mueller report.

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