Originally Posted by suebiking Originally Posted by

This particular question should not even be discussed until we have our hands on the DNA of the actual Yaroslav I to prove what his y-dna line actually is. As for the theory exposed by Tomenable, I say with all respect that there are a lot of generations between them and current descendents and I do not believe that all the descendents of a son and the other carry respectively only N1c and I2a, that being said, how do you claim with all certainty the fact of the descendents being N1c and I2a ( how could you, unless you know the people who tested personally or you have some kind of list with the descendents names and their genealogical trees).



For instance, I believe the example named by Angela to be the perfect one for the argument I am making. The y-dna of Richard III was G2a while the remaining modern Plantagenets (the dukes of beaufort) are R1b-U152 but where did the line break, well we cannot know that unless we test the dna of edward iii directly, it might turn out that edward iii belongs to one of the aformentioned lineages or none of them.

As for the honour of long dead women, I have to say that most people who don't have a good historical knowledge believe that women were much more faithful in the past than nowadays, I believe the exact opposite but that could be argued against so I will refrain.

What I have to say is that until conclusive evidence is found regarding this question and the rurikid one, there is no need to speculate and difamate long dead women and the same should be done with the men.