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Ortiz still won convincingly. He can fight but he's been made out to be far more of a threat than he actually is. Boxing is prize fighting, no roads go through or lead to Ortiz, he's a tricky fighter to…

[QUOTE=Jersey Walcott;19557231]Bull****.. Ortiz much better than Povetkin. He got old, that was the problem, but the Povetkin vs Jammer was a boring fight Ortiz was more dangerous for Hammer... altough he is 40 years old[/QUOTE] Lol, no chance. Ortiz hasn't…

[QUOTE=EasternEuroFan;19555319] Fury is better than Ortiz. Povetkin too..[/QUOTE] Bull****.. Ortiz much better than Povetkin. He got old, that was the problem, but the Povetkin vs Jammer was a boring fight Ortiz was more dangerous for Hammer... altough he is 40…

[QUOTE=Madison boxing;19555540]'Fights to level of competition' :lol1: damn is bryant jennings considered great competition now or something.[/QUOTE] Jennings was highly ranked at the time.. are you serious?

[QUOTE=REDEEMER;19556797]So no more excuses that wilder had to be saved by the bell and looked in between rounds against OLD Ortiz then ? Is this the final narrative we are sticking with if OLD Klitschko lost to AJ ? Ha[/QUOTE]He…