Episode 64 of The State of The Universe features Bernie Taylor. Bernie Taylor is the author of Before Orion and an expert in prehistoric, indigenous and ancient peoples and cultures. Before Orion can be found at https://www.amazon.com/BEFORE-ORION-Finding-Face-Hero-ebook/dp/B075MQG794/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=before+orion&qid=1570592626&sr=8-1.