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We’re in the studio with our main man Macaulay Culkin and his guest, Jake “The Snake” Roberts. Jake is famous for his stardom in the world of wrestling, and more recently for his recovery documentary Resurrection. He’s currently an advocate for Diamond Dallas Page’s resistance yoga program and is touring the country telling stories from his life in the business of breaking bodies. (A note: This is an interview with a 64-year-old man who gives no fucks. Might want to listen after you put the kids to bed).

Jake reveals he has a fear of snakes, which is pretty intriguing considering he carried one into the ring on a nightly basis. He tells Mack the WWF had a “snake guy” on retainer and the dude behaved (and smelled) exactly the way you’d expect a “snake guy” to.

Jake also discusses his experience with steroids and what drove him to use. He then spends some time dunking on Honky Tonk Man (who tried to buy out Jake’s wrestling name from the trademark office). Some harsh words are said. Like, really harsh.

The guys move on to AEW (this was recorded before AEW’s mind-blowing Double or Nothing event) and discuss some of the potential pitfalls of going head-to-head with Vince McMahon. Jake plugs his book (out in two months!) and Mack talks to DDP about coming on the podcast and doing some yoga.

You can (and should!) follow Jake “The Snake” Roberts on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

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