In a newly broadcast video acquired by MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, we learn some new but unsurprising things about Donald Trump from Microsoft founder Bill Gates.

During a Gates Foundation meeting Gates spoke with an audience and answered questions about Trump. Though the anecdotes haven’t been heard before, none of the stories should come as a surprise to anyone that is familiar with Trump’s track record.

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Gates first confesses that, though the two were even in attendance at the same event during the election, he avoided meeting Trump until after he became president. Trump first met Gates’ daughter, Jennifer, at a horse show that Gates says he drove away from only to return via helicopter 20 minutes later in a gaudy, “grand entrance.”

When they did finally meet Gates says he encouraged Trump to be a president of innovation and to look into things like energy, education, health, naming research into an HIV vaccine as an example. “Both times [we met] he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV,” says Gates. “So I was able to explain that those things are rarely confused with each other.”

Gates also added that Trump speaks about himself in the third person, first approaching him saying: “Trump hears that you don’t like what Trump is doing.” Gates, understandably puzzled, added: “Wow. You’re Trump.” Watch, below.