Player Report

vicacrov

June 24, 2019

Cassandra Chester

chaznoodles

Cyrus Saint

12:00

Rule 2, 3

Incident summed up: Playing a roleplay-wise completely unreasonable character, as a long-time player, knowing that he likely won't be faced with IC consequences due to OOC practices.



Ice Colony, captain. I used an LZ2 tactic that many commanders before me did - as marines often say, they do better without command, so I relied on announcements and my SO/XO using squad messages. All squads followed announcement orders semi-well but eventually fluked out, when the Queen has attacked their backlinnes. Most of them stopped reacting to announcements even though I sent one almost every minute about the enemy's position.



Once a general retreat was ordered, Cyrus & several others went to fix telecomms - something I wanted to ask from our synthetic but he got deactivated (SSD or killed, unsure), so it actually came handy. However, there, the problems started. The moment comms came up:



[10:59:37]SAY: Cyrus Saint/Chaznoodles : CO'S A FUCKING TARD WHO DIDN'T DETAIL ANYONE TO COMMS.

[10:59:43]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Saint, repeat that.

[10:59:51]SAY: Cyrus Saint/Chaznoodles : You fucking heard.

[10:59:53]SAY: Cyrus Saint/Chaznoodles : Twat.



IRL anything even just resembling this would get you into serious trouble in the army. But knowing that he is a generally problematic player, and that CM can get really heated, I let it slide. I always let insubordination slide once or twice because we aren't a HRP server.



But, not a minute later, he followed it up with a



[11:00:11]SAY: Cyrus Saint/Chaznoodles : Imagine being in command and forgetting the importance of a functioning communication chain.



Seeing he wouldn't stop any time soon, I asked the XO to mark him as insubordinate (since we lack any better button for an arrest order in CIC). At this point, I wanted to get him brigged for repeated disrepect. Again - not for getting up comms and disregarding the "fall back to LZ2" order. Simply because of how unrealistic this was from a marine.



I dropped the case and focused on the mission. You'll see a fully detailed log below if a staff member posts it, but he kept trashtalking me, calling me a "fuckmuppet" and a "grade-one monglet", etc etc. However, the reason I finally asked MPs to arrest him for planned mutiny was this:



[11:06:29]SAY: Cyrus Saint/Chaznoodles : Fuck the MPs, the CO's incompetent.

[11:06:37]SAY: Cyrus Saint/Chaznoodles : And they're going to have a problem if marines get shipside.



You may say I overreacted - but remember, we were about to evac, we lost rather quickly, and he kept hate-mongering against me. I wanted to make sure that the group of marines coming up with the other dropship won't shoot me in the back as their first act. Therefore, I took the "they're going to have a problem if marines get shipside" as "we'll blast CIC open once we get up". Because we all know how popular it is to mutiny after a failed op.



I asked the MPs to arrest him /when he was fixed/.



[11:13:08]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Cyrus Saint on Alamo. Get him treatment, then arrest him for mutiny attempt.



A runner was running rampant, so everyone was disoriented, including me. Therefore, I asked about it later, again, emphasizing him to get treatment first:



[11:14:24]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Is he arrested yet?

...

[11:15:17]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : See him treated, then arrest him.



In the meantime, I tried my best to keep other squads informed about his doings when they asked about it, to little to no success. He kept his behaviour up in medical about me and with the CMP (unbeknownst to me, as I was in CIC), see in the full logs, I won't cherry-pick as it would be unfair for this section.



By this time, we all evacced. This is when I hear about this:



[11:20:59]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : The MPs cuffed me while I was asleep because they knew that doing it awake would spark shit.

[11:21:04]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Ain't that some shit.



I completely despise both police brutality and incorrect practices, some people may know it OOCly. Therefore, I followed it up:



[11:21:18]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : That's illegal arrest and I'll talk with them about it.

[11:21:21]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Any witnesses to it?

[11:21:27]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : You caused this in the first place, bastard.

[11:21:34]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Was it an MP or the CMP?

[11:21:40]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Imagine dropping marines alone with no comms, and refusing to send anyone to fix it.

[11:22:01]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Imagine having the man who fixed it arrested for mutiny, after him and a few volunteers give their lives to keep it up for the evac.



And so on, and so on. I didn't care much about him still being a hundred percent, irrationally hostile to me and instead went to investigate the situation. Some marines backed him up, even doctors, so I asked the CMP. He said the MP did it.



[11:21:53]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : I was told you cuffed him while he was asleep. That is not following MP procedures.

(...)

[11:24:02]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Go and teach your MP how to do it. Without following legal arresting procedures, he effectively committed kidnap.



[kidnapping, sic]



Issues didn't stop here, unfortunately.



[11:22:05]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : They've now locked me in a storage closet.

[11:22:16]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Yep.

[11:22:21]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : In a storage closet. With my radio.



Now this was a perfect bait for a mutiny, intended or not. We evacced, MPs were unprofessional, there was nothing to do for the marines. Again, I stepped in to see why this was happening. When I arrived at the brig, Cyrus was in an orange jumpsuit, with a headset (he was given it back after he said so), and cuffed.



[11:25:54]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Remove his handcuffs.

[11:26:04]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Here she comes, high and mighty.

[11:26:16]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Couldn't lead fucking rats with a pipe.



He got uncuffed by the CMP. A good 8-10 marines gathered outside, asked me why he was cuffed. While I was explaining it to them - and god bless them, they listened instead of instantly bashing my skull in - I got reports that the dropship wasn't only taken, but the bugs boarded it. A minute later, around when the hijack happened, the MPs hesitated - so I gave them the verbal order of



[11:27:08]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Release him, give him back his gear

[11:27:10]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : We have an issue

[11:27:35]SAY: Cassandra Chester/Vicacrov : Get red up



To which his reaction was



[11:27:33]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Good work, boys.

[11:27:39]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : CO pussied out, lads.

[11:27:43]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Good work.

[11:28:14]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : CO pussied out and released me when the marines broke in.

[11:28:21]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Peer pressure works every time.



Then the dropship crash happened. I haven't met him later but he said he was about to "put a bullet in my head" during the last stand. I died in the CL's office so it never kinda happened.



I won't cherry-pick every little insult that occured between these instances. You'll be able to see it below and they are not really relevant.



I'm here to enjoy the game just as much as everyone else. If I play command, I play command because I would like to herd the players into the direction of xenos, to ensure that req and medbay are functioning and that the MPs do things lawfully. I believe I fulfilled all these roles; and yet one player, who is notorious of his no-RP behaviour when it comes to ranks - something, that's in a military roleplay environment should matter - goes out of his way to ruin it.



Moreso he tries to get others to aid him, knowing that most marine players would be down for mutiny even if just an MP sneezed at them. I'm completely sure he acts with such freedom because he knows the "masses" will stand with him, as seen in the last dialogue:



[11:28:14]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : CO pussied out and released me when the marines broke in.

[11:28:21]SAY: Unknown (as Cyrus Saint)/Chaznoodles : Peer pressure works every time.



I'm not fed up because we lost. I don't care, Ice LZ2 is a hit or miss. I'm irritated because this kind of behaviour is allowed, repeatedly so, when it is nothing but self-serving and toxic. When I asked around, I was told that this was not something aimed at me; this is something multiple command players are faced with. I cannot include them in this report, but I genuinely believe one person's attitude should not be endlessly tolerated by a group, especially if we have a set of rules against it.

See above. Also I guess I should add this to show his vendetta didn't stop even after dying. Unformatted, without replies to it:



[11:37:01]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Fuck the CO, seriously.

[11:37:04]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Singlehandedly fucked the round.

[11:37:13]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Didn't detail anyone to set up comms, at all.

[11:37:21]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : So I took four men down to set it up via LZ1.

[11:37:23]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : So I took four men down to set it up via LZ1.

[11:37:30]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Called the CO out on it.

[11:37:35]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : They had me arrested for mutiny.

[11:37:46]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Then released me when ALL the marines broke into the Brig.

[11:37:51]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : the CO's bad.

[11:38:00]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Out of the five of us who dropped, three permadied.

[11:38:14]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Imagine playing CO and literally not detailing anyone to set up comms

[11:38:32]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : It's almost like the CO hadn't ever played CM, seeing their lack of knowledge of what comms is.

[11:38:42]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Yeah John, that was appreciated.

[11:38:48]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : The CO pussied out when you all busted in and set me free.

[11:38:56]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : because games are supposed to be enjoyable.

[11:39:00]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : Not one person shitting on others.

[11:39:26]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : There's a difference between incompetence and doing it on purpose.

[11:39:30]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : I did Leach.

[11:39:35]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : CO pussied out HARD when you all busted in.

[11:40:33]SAY: Ghost/Chaznoodles : This round is a demonstration of the power marines have over shitty Command roles.

[11:50:15]OOC: Cyrus Saint/Chaznoodles : ITT CO doesn't detail anyone to set up comms, arrests the guy who sets it up with mutiny after he drops and half the volunteers with him die, pussies out and lets him go when marine roll up

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