Washington governor and future climate czar presidential hopeful Jay Inslee sat for an interview with New York Magazine's Gabriel Debenedetti recently, and he had some rather interesting things to say about the other Washingtonian running for President:

Okay, last question about one of your constituents. Are you surprised Howard Schultz is moving forward with his independent presidential exploration in a serious way?

No, I’m not surprised. I think it’s very disappointing that someone who says he has Democratic values wants to do the most dangerous thing possible — to make the reelection of Donald Trump even a possibility. So that’s hugely disappointing that someone would do that. Everybody that can string two words together knows the only consequence of his candidacy would be opening the window of possibility to Trump’s reelection. It’s just, there’s no evidence whatsoever to support that as a rational decision, except wanting to lead to the more probable reelection of Donald Trump.

Presumably you’ve had some sort of relationship with him in the past, as a business leader in the state?

Minimal. He has never really engaged in public policy in my state. AWOL — almost totally — from almost anything having to do with democracy or policy in our state. Doesn’t even vote over half the time. Didn’t vote in the last — we had a school election, to help fund schools! Here’s a guy who wants to be president of the United States who didn’t even deign to vote, what, five weeks ago? Yeah! We had a school bond issue — we’re trying to build schools — here’s a guy who says he wants to be in education, he’s going to reform America and bring a new politics, and the son of a gun doesn’t even vote. What type of embarrassing thing is that? You want to be president and you don’t even vote? You know, that’s just for the little people. In Howard’s life, voting is just for the little people. I don’t think his candidacy is going to soar.