THE EIGHTH AMENDMENT is arguably the most talked about section of Bunreacht na hÉireann.

Article 40.3.3 of the Irish Constitution came into effect after a referendum on 7 September 1983, where it was voted in by a 67% majority.

The amendment acknowledges the right to life of the unborn, equating it with the mother’s right to life. Here is the exact wording:

The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.

Fine Gael's Seán Barrett and Fianna Fáil's Bertie Ahern leave the Dáil during the 1983 referendum. Source: RollingNews.ie

There has been much debate about the amendment in recent years, particularly in relation to the death of Savita Halappanavar in 2012, who was denied a termination, and the case of a braindead woman who was kept on life support in December 2014, against the wishes of her family, because she was pregnant.

The spotlight was again cast on the amendment last month when the United Nations called for a referendum to be held on repealing it.

Pro-choice campaigners say repealing the eighth is long overdue and would bring Ireland in line with most other developed countries, while pro-life groups believe it provides necessary protection for the unborn.

The topic is controversial and emotive. Many politicians have voiced strong opinions on the subject, while others prefer to not discuss it.

Over the past three weeks, TheJournal.ie asked every TD the following two questions:

Are you personally in favour of repealing the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution? Do you want a referendum on the Eighth Amendment to be held in the lifetime of this government?

Each TD was contacted a number of times – via email and telephone. Just under half (48%) of TDs replied – 76 out of 158.

The majority of respondents want the amendment to be repealed: 47 (62% of the replies). While 22 others (30%) said they don’t want it repealed. Three said they don’t know and four replied without giving a definitive answer.

In terms of holding a referendum on the topic during this government’s term, 49 agreed, 22 disagreed, two were unsure and nine TDs’ answers placed them in the Other category.

A full list of what TDs said, and who did and didn’t reply, can be read here. Although some TDs may have voiced opinions on the subject in the past, this survey is not based on previous comments.

Here’s who said Yes to question 1 (in alphabetical order by party):

The Anti-Austerity Alliance-People Before Profit (AAA-PBP) (6 of 6)

Mick Barry

Gino Kenny

Bríd Smith

Paul Murphy

Ruth Coppinger

Richard Boyd Barrett

Ruth Coppinger with abortion pills she brought to Dublin from Belfast. Source: Sam Boal/RollingNews.ie

Women should have a right to make a choice on the matter. Women have waited too long already. There has been far too much delay and the government intend to put it on a long finger again. We need action now as the Eighth Amendment is a danger to women’s lives and health, and women should have the right to choose now and not is the distant future. – Ruth Coppinger

Fianna Fáil (1 of 44)

Pat Casey*

Fine Gael (6 of 50)

Kate O’Connell

Josepha Madigan

Minister Leo Varadkar

Maria Bailey

Fergus O’Dowd*

Junior Minister Eoghan Murphy

*with caveats outlined below

I consider it the right of Irish women to access any medical services they require in their own country. Right now, the “lucky ones” who can afford to travel, at huge expense, are travelling at a rate of over nine per day to the UK. Those who cannot afford to travel are either suffering through pregnancies against their will or are resorting to taking abortion pills purchased online, alone, without medical supervision and at huge risk to their personal health. – Kate O’Connell

The Green Party (2 of 2)

Eamon Ryan

Catherine Martin

The original amendment was flawed and has not served Irish women who are still travelling in large numbers to have an abortion in other jurisdictions. – Eamon Ryan

Independents, the Independent Alliance and Independents 4 Change (7)

Thomas Pringle

Tommy Broughan

Maureen O’Sullivan

Minister Katherine Zappone

Catherine Connolly

Junior Minister Finian McGrath

Joan Collins

Thomas Pringle Source: Sam Boal

We need to start trusting women to make decisions about their own lives and bodies in this country. It is only trying to kick it to touch by waiting on a constitutional convention. Repeal the eighth now and legislate, that is what needs to be done. – Thomas Pringle

Labour (5 of 7)

Seán Sherlock

Joan Burton

Jan O’Sullivan

Alan Kelly

Brendan Howlin

Sinn Féin (16 of 23)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin

Pat Buckley

Jonathan O’Brien

Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire

Mary Lou McDonald

Louise O’Reilly

Eoin Ó Broin

Dessie Ellis

Seán Crowe

Martin Ferris

Maurice Quinlivan

Gerry Adams

David Cullinane

John Brady

Denise Mitchell

Martin Kenny

Gerry Adams Source: Leah Farrell

All this prevailing situation has achieved is to jeopardise the lives of Irish women and to leave medical practitioners in a very difficult position. I believe the referendum should be held as soon as possible. - Gerry Adams

Social Democrats (3 of 3)

Catherine Murphy

Stephen Donnelly

Róisín Shortall

It is a fundamental human rights issue that must be addressed urgently. A referendum to ascertain the public’s view on this is long overdue given that the previous result is over 30 years old. – Catherine Murphy

Workers and Unemployed Action Group (WUAG) (1 of 1)

Séamus Healy

Here’s who said No:

Fianna Fáil (16 of 44)

Brendan Smith

Kevin O’Keeffe

Jim O’Callaghan

Anne Rabbitte

Éamon Ó Cuív

Willie O’Dea

Barry Cowen

Pat ‘The Cope’ Gallagher

Bobby Aylward

James Lawless

Declan Breathnach

Thomas Byrne

Shane Cassells

Marc MacSharry

Eamon Scanlon

Jackie Cahill

Éamon Ó Cuív Source: Sam Boal

I am not in favour of repealing the provision in the constitution that protects the right to life of both mothers and the unborn as I believe this protection is a fundamental protection for all human beings. – Éamon Ó Cuív

Fine Gael (2 of 50)

Peter Burke

Junior Minister Andrew Doyle

Independents and Independent Alliance (4)

Michael Collins

Danny Healy-Rae

Mattie McGrath

Seán Canney

Mattie McGrath Source: Mark Stedman/RollingNews.ie

I am opposed to repealing the Eighth Amendment for many reasons … such an action would be wholly disproportionate and would remove the last vestiges of constitutional protection for the life of the unborn child. A major concern here is that in all the talk of removing the Eighth Amendment, there has been a complete absence of any proposed mechanism to even acknowledge the life of the unborn child – a human person – at the constitutional level. – Mattie McGrath

Don’t Know or Other

A spokesperson for the Taoiseach said Enda Kenny is “determined a conversation will take place that is mutually respectful and sensitive”, and that the citizens’ assembly on the topic, as set out in the programme for government, will allow for this.

Taoiseach Enda Kenny Source: Eamonn Farrell

Tánaiste and Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald is also in the Other category. Here is the answer she gave us:

I fully support the government’s plan to establish a citizens’ assembly, within six months with a mandate to look at a limited number of key issues including the Eighth Amendment. We will ask the citizens’ assembly to make recommendations to the Dáil on further constitutional changes, including on the Eighth Amendment. This is a delicate and complex issue and I believe a citizens’ assembly is the best way to move things forward.

Alan Farrell, also a member of Fine Gael, is in the Don’t Know category. He told us: “It very much depends on what is proposed to replace the amendment.”

Pat Casey, who was elected in Wicklow in the general election, is a lone voice in Fianna Fáil. He told us he’s in favour of repealing the eighth amendment, but has some conditions attached to this position.

“I’ve no problem with it being repealed but it needs to replaced something else that protects [the] unborn,” he said, adding that there “needs to be a discussion” about it before putting it to the people in a referendum.

Fianna Fáil’s John Lahart is in the Don’t Know category. He also wants to see what comes out of the convention, telling us: ”I think we need a sense of what would be proposed to be put in place of the existing constitutional provision.”

‘It can’t be answered with Yes or No’

Meanwhile, Fine Gael’s Fergus O’Dowd also gave his support for repealing the eighth – with some caveats. He said he wants women to have access to terminations in cases involving fatal foetal abnormalities, rape and incest. He said there needs to be a strict time limit on this.

Tánaiste Frances Fitzgerald Source: Sam Boal

O’Dowd said the constitutional convention is a good idea, as it will allow for a “proper debate” before holding a referendum.

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His Fine Gael colleague Bernard Durkan is in the Other category. He told us: “The question can’t be answered with a direct Yes or No”, adding that we need to carefully consider how best to move forward.

Tony McLoughlin, also a Fine Gael TD, is in the Don’t Know category. He said he has “fears about the possibility of abortion being made available on demand if the Eighth Amendment is removed and the current legislation is changed”.

However, he added he is aware of “many issues which need to be addressed and which will require the constitution to be changed”.

Here is what each party told us about the subject:



Fine Gael has promised that a citizens’ assembly will be held on the issue – in the same vein as the 100-person convention previously held to look at issues such as same-sex marriage (which was passed in the referendum last year), reducing the age at which a person can run for the office of the president (which was defeated in another referendum on the same day) and reducing the voting age (which never made it to a national vote).

A citizens’ assembly is due be held within six months of the government being formed to look at a limited number of issues (not just constitutional ones), including the Eighth Amendment.

A Fine Gael spokesperson told us the assembly “will be without participation by politicians and will make recommendations to the Dáil on possible constitutional changes”.

Micheál Martin Source: Leah Farrell

Fianna Fáil‘s election manifesto doesn’t mention the topic. A spokesperson for party leader Micheál Martin said:

The question of whether or not to repeal the Eighth Amendment is not one with a simple yes or no answer. Those who advocate its repeal have not presented any proposal on what it would be replaced with.

That is why Fianna Fáil wrote to the health minister 12 months ago proposing the establishment of a expert commission to examine the health, legal, moral and ethical implications presented by the issue. Based on this analysis, the Oireachtas would then decide on the way forward, when Fianna Fáil TDs would vote on the basis of their individual consciences.

All bar one of the party’s TDs who replied don’t want the amendment to be repealed.

This is Sinn Féin‘s stance:

We will legislate for a referendum to repeal the Eighth Amendment in order to provide for a woman to seek a termination of a pregnancy where her life is at risk or in grave danger, and in cases of rape or incest as well as in cases of fatal foetal abnormalities.

Labour has also called for a referendum on repealing the eighth to be held. However, the party didn’t back opposition bills on the topic when it was in government.

Joan Burton Source: RollingNews.ie

In its manifesto, the party states:

If the referendum is successful, pass comprehensive legislation for terminations in the event of fatal foetal abnormalities, real and substantial risk to the health of the woman, and where rape, incest or serious sexual assault has created a risk to the physical or mental health of the woman.

A number of bills calling for the eighth amendment to be repealed were voted down during the lifetime of the last government, including ones put forward by Socialist Party/Anti-Austerity Alliance TDs Ruth Coppinger and Joe Higgins and Clare Daly (then a United Left TD, now an Independents 4 Change member).

The following TDs refused to respond:

Fianna Fáil

Niamh Smyth

Timmy Dooley

Michael Moynihan

Michael McGrath

Margaret Murphy-O’Mahony

Seán Haughey

John Curran

Jack Chambers

John Brassil

Seán O’Fearghaíl

Fiona O’Loughlin

Robert Troy

Charlie McConalogue

John McGuinness

Billy Kelleher

Darragh O’Brien

Frank O’Rourke

Seán Fleming

Niall Collins

Dara Calleary

Lisa Chambers

Eugene Murphy

Mary Butler

James Browne

Aindrias Moynihan

Fine Gael

Minister Heather Humphreys

Junior Minister David Stanton

Junior Minister Dara Murphy

Minister Michael Creed

Jim Daly

Junior Minister Joe McHugh

Minister Richard Bruton

Noel Rock

Junior Minister Catherine Byrne

Colm Brophy

Seán Barrett

Minister Mary Mitchell O’Connor

Ciarán Cannon

Junior Minister Sean Kyne

Hildegarde Naughton

Brendan Griffin

Martin Heydon

Minister Charlie Flanagan

Minister Michael Noonan

Tom Neville

Junior Minister Patrick O’Donovan

Peter Fitzpatrick

Junior Minister and chief whip Regina Doherty

Junior Minister Helen McEntee

Junior Minister Damien English

Junior Minister Marcella O’Corcoran-Kennedy

Michael D’Arcy

Junior Minister Paul Kehoe

Minister Simon Harris

Pat Deering

John Paul Phelan

Junior Minister Pat Breen

Joe Carey

Minister Simon Coveney

Minister Paschal Donohoe

Junior Minister Michael Ring

John Deasy

Independents, the Independent Alliance and Independents 4 Change

Minister Denis Naughten

Michael Harty

Noel Grealish

Michael Healy-Rae

Michael Lowry

Minister Shane Ross

Michael Fitzmaurice

Kevin ‘Boxer’ Moran

Junior Minister John Halligan

Clare Daly

Mick Wallace

Labour

Willie Penrose

Brendan Ryan

Sinn Féin

Kathleen Funchion

Pearse Doherty

Aengus Ó Snodaigh

Brian Stanley

Imelda Munster

Peadar Tóibín

Carol Nolan

- With reporting by Róisín Nestor