Martin says, ‘We’ve obviously had personnel changes and stuff. … For the first few years, we all lived really close to each other so that made it more of a traditional band dynamic, where we would get together a few times a week and rehearsed.’

Martin says that now three of them live in the New York area. Alex lives in Northern California. Julian lives in Wisconsin, so ‘we have to work harder to get together, so there’s more planning involved. … We just have to set time aside.’

Martin says that families ‘definitely changed things. … We started this band when we were 22 years old, 23 years old, so obviously things have changed in the past eight years, nine years.’

Alex says, ‘It’s almost like a new band now. It’s the same and it’s different.’

Martin says, ‘It remains exciting.’