Bill Nye Boo'd In Texas For Saying The Moon Reflects The Sun Posted by Pile (366752 views) [E-Mail link]

[ Astronomy ] Bill Nye, the harmless children's edu-tainer known as "The Science Guy," managed to offend a select group of adults in Waco, Texas at a presentation, when he suggested that the moon does not emit light, but instead reflects the light of the sun.

As even most elementary-school graduates know, the moon reflects the light of the sun but produces no light of its own.



But don't tell that to the good people of Waco, who were "visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence," according to the Waco Tribune.



Nye was in town to participate in McLennan Community College's Distinguished Lecture Series. He gave two lectures on such unfunny and adult topics as global warming, Mars exploration, and energy consumption.



But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."



The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector.



At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected.

This story originally appeared in the Waco Tribune, but the newspaper has mysteriously pulled its story from the online version, presumably to avoid further embarassment.



http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/04/06/04062006wacbillnye.html



Posted by ueberbill on 2007-08-13 08:18:19 Holy crap- what a bunch of lunatics. heh heh heh heh

Posted by wizeGurl on 2007-08-13 11:23:30 Lunatics...good one. Posted by A. Theist on 2007-08-15 00:47:27 Gee, when its a new moon do they think that means god is angry at Earth? Posted by Bob Roberts on 2007-08-15 00:53:12 No wonder David Koresh picked Waco. correction

Posted by Mac on 2007-08-15 02:16:22 Do you mean "what a bunch of lunartics?" Posted by nick. on 2007-08-15 02:46:37 idiots.. damn

Posted by miss amp on 2007-08-15 07:02:12 that was rated R for retard. Sarcasm alert.

Posted by Johnny Sane on 2007-08-15 09:23:50 How dare he claim that the moon only reflects light! Next thing you know, he'll say that the earth isn't flat, that bats aren't birds, and that insects have more than 4 legs!

It's just outrageous!



/snark Sounds like Nye deserved it

Posted by Jethro! on 2007-08-16 07:39:19 The article doesn't quote exactly what was said or the context, but if he was parsing Genesis 1:16 in order to take a jab at Christians, he deserves to be booed. If Nye claimed that Genesis 1:16 said God created two "light sources," then Nye is wrong -- it says: "God made two great lights..." That the "lesser light" is reflected light, does not make it any less a "great light." sounds like jethro doesn't get the point

Posted by drolar on 2007-08-16 23:01:00 nye didn't say it was less of a great light. it was the god believers that took it that way. technically something that reflects light is not necessarily a light. if that were the case, your car window would be a light. such silliness. Waco is a craphole

Posted by Romag on 2007-08-16 23:07:49 Dude... Waco sucks so bad that even other sections of Texas mock it. It's just a crap hole you have to drive through if you're traveling from DFW to Austin or San Antonio. Luna-tics

Posted by Lucas on 2007-08-17 12:40:14 Get it!? God thats funny. Posted by Ooga on 2007-08-17 13:39:54 "Several people" are idiots. And this is news? I live in Texas, and I have this to say.

Posted by Houstonian on 2007-08-17 13:58:55 Right now, I want to find Bill Nye and shake his hand for proving exactly what I've been saying about Waco for over ten years now. Bill Nye, moon reflecting light from sun.

Posted by Pancho on 2007-08-17 14:08:08 Fabulous Posted by science teacher on 2007-08-17 14:15:51 Time to improve the science education in Texas! I wonder if he was bood for something else

Posted by Raalnan5 on 2007-08-17 14:21:55 I can imagine that he might have been bood for mentioning the bible in a derogatory fashion, but no one would boo him for the suggestion that the moon reflects the sun. By the way, The earth is actually in danger of man made global cooling, or at least that's what the first Earth Day was all about. Lunatics

Posted by Mike on 2007-08-17 14:27:34 Great one, if pun was indeed intended. Not so fast

Posted by quash on 2007-08-17 15:36:37 Bill is right, but he was booed for dissing the bible. And no way in hell that last line is part of the original story. Which puts the rest in doubt, too. SO TRUE

Posted by A Non-Native Wacoan on 2007-08-17 15:44:47 I have been attending college in this useless town for several years....and I agree that it is a craphole.



If it wasn't for scholarships I would move. Hey, Quash!

Posted by Flonkbob on 2007-08-17 16:02:11 Who cares if he 'dissed' an Iron Age book of fairy tales? he's not required to believe in their sky fairy anyway...and it's not like that's the only brain-dead scientific error in the bible anyway...he could have his pick from a very long list.



Oh, and if diss'ing the bible is cause for booing, y'all better boo me every minute. It's a book of horror and the praise of a demon (Yahweh). You spelled "booed" wrong.

Posted by Ed H on 2007-08-17 16:05:34 Heh heh. Bush Library needs to be in Wacko!

Posted by digart on 2007-08-17 16:31:50 Forget Dallas! The Bushies will feel much more at home! Unicorns Are Real!

Posted by Werewere on 2007-08-17 16:40:44 begin sarcasm:

The bible mentions

unicorns so they MUST be real

:end sarcasm



Bible does actually mention unicorns lunartics?

Posted by redux on 2007-08-17 16:48:46 >Do you mean "what a bunch of lunartics?"

>Posted by nick. on 2007-08-15 02:46:37



*facepalm* Phil

Posted by And the Award Goes to... on 2007-08-17 17:23:13 In recent news, Texas has topped Kansas as being the most backwards state in the nation. And the award goes to...

Posted by Phil on 2007-08-17 17:24:37 ok I messed up with the last post.



In recent news, Texas has topped Kansas as being the most backwards state in the nation. i am

Posted by kevin on 2007-08-17 17:30:32 it all just goes to show you that superstitious monkeys with car keys... who cringe in fear of a universe that they cant understand.... who create angry deities to be appeased.. are un-evolved.



christianity has an amazing defense mechanism.... ANYTHING that even suggests that it could be a superstitious myth or that discredits even one word of that text, (written thousands of years ago, by people who thought god wanted them to cut the throats of goats and then burn them in sacrifice), is OF THE DEVIL....



THEY BELIIEVE ITS THE DEVIL IS TRYING TO GET TO THEM (WITH COMMON SENSE).



they are delusional! its a mental illness. its a cult. they need to be deprogrammed.



if you need jesus and the fear of burning in hell for ever to keep you from raping pillaging and burning then you should be sterilized so you cant reproduce and pass your mental illness on to your progeny.



ignorant people breeding is child abuse! Posted by SL on 2007-08-17 21:44:12 Ridiculous as it may seem, I have encountered critics of religion who cite Genesis 1:16 as an example of error in the Bible. That may have been what Nye did to offend this audience.



Most Christians, even in Waco, realize that the Bible is not a science book. Hopefully the atheists will catch on at some point. Posted by Sheryl on 2007-08-17 23:12:28 We realize that many Christians don't believe the bible is a science book. However you can't deny that there are those who do, there are even some who take the bible so literally that they refuse to believe the earth revolves around the sun. They deserve to be called out for their denial of reason and willingness to put blind belief in an ancient book over observable reality. To do otherwise would be to encourage and condone ignorance, and everyone regardless of whether they are atheist, Christian, or Hindu, should strive to eliminate ignorance. BLASPHEMY

Posted by Ed on 2007-08-17 23:42:30 PI IS EXACTLY 3. Mr.

Posted by Saul Wall on 2007-08-18 01:01:56 I am as pro-atheism as anyone and I don't doubt that whenever you think you have come up with the stupidest possible belief there is something worse out there. And I would probably be on Nye's side for a lot of stuff but it does sound like the audience was not given a fair shake here. No one can tell from this story if they were booing his "news" about the moon or his apparent assumption that the only reason they believe the Bible is because they do not possess a second grade education. People don't convert from their beliefs because someone talks to them as if they were slack jawed yokels. Nye may not have intended to sound like this but he may very well have given that impression. I am not saying there might not have been someone in the audience who did boo the moon news but to make this presumption of them seems rather hasty. Was "We believe in God" their response to the moon news or to his (perceived) intent? Yeah Waco

Posted by anotherdeadhero on 2007-08-18 01:21:20 It's in the bible belt, wtf do you expect. Only biblethumpers and crackheads in good ole Waco. Iv'e lived here most of my life, such a shithole. U.S. science students always score lowest compared to the world

Posted by wolf on 2007-08-18 01:30:27 People have wondered why American science students always score last or very close to the bottom when compared to the other industrialized countries. They can stop wondering. i was yelling "buuuuuu-rrrrrrrrns"

Posted by hans moleman on 2007-08-18 01:51:25 bill nye rocks. Posted by Satori on 2007-08-18 03:58:32 "People don't convert from their beliefs because someone talks to them as if they were slack jawed yokels."



So how do you suggest treating them, like rocket scientists? They are slack jawed yokels, are arguing any differently is an affront to those that aren't.



There are plenty of people in this country that can understand the fact that evolution AND a belief in God are not mutually exclusive. These people can't even comprehend that light occasionally bounces off other things.



I hope their God comes down from the heavens and gives them remedial science education. He knows (God knows) they need it. Posted by Warner on 2007-08-18 06:05:38 How disingenuous of you Nutroots types. Obviously the crowd wasn't mad at Nye for saying the moon emits light. They didn't imagine it did. They were mad that he seemed to be attacking religion! You religion hating nutrooters can make fun of them all you want for being religious, but none of them were attacking the science of the moon! Posted by Jago on 2007-08-18 06:07:51 I can totally see how it's appropriate to attack the biblical quotations during a presentation at a school, especially when the English translation of the old testament so clearly states that the moon is exactly the same as the sun and emits light rather than reflecting it. Offending morons

Posted by Eric on 2007-08-18 10:04:10 While the thinking portion of the population should have first on its agenda the development of the optimal means to erase ignorance from the human mind, let's not bend over backwards to avoid giving affront to the debasing influence of strong religious faith--perhaps the number once force in culture most at odds with the thinking, reasoning, curious, critical mind. I think you also missed Bill Nye's point, Warner

Posted by dollyllama on 2007-08-18 10:06:41 He wasn't attacking religion, or the Bible. He was simply correcting, or stating a fact that is in direct contradiction to the Bible. And THAT's what these Neanderthals were booing. (Don't worry that I called them Neanderthals, they don't believe in them). mr

Posted by ivor on 2007-08-18 12:34:35 I`m glad to see such good comments. Anybody read Dawkins` GOD DELUSION or Hitchens` GOD IS NOT GREAT? There a new one 100 FUNNY THINGS ABOUT GOD out now, written 25 years ago and banned at the time, I think - includes some naughty cartoons featuring the Cross. Mind you, they`re intellectuals - but that just means they think a lot like you guys do.

Luv.

Ivor it's a jump to conclusions mat!

Posted by BigOlBurlyBear on 2007-08-18 18:06:02 Wow. So many of you just ready to assume so much about a religion and location based on one half-assed attempt at making a controversy. Stupid is believing that people would be upset that Nye says the moon reflects light from the sun. Stupid is believing that they were not upset that he was putting the bible down based on his own personal interpretation of the bible. Stupid would be believing the audiance/ city of Waco was represented by the one woman who "yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children".



But feel free to continue in your assumptions and generalizations. Ignorance is bliss, or so I'm told. Posted by Dru on 2007-08-18 22:44:17 Bill Nye should leave religion out of his presentations to avoid controversy. Let the christians believe in their fairy tales. Ignorance is bliss. o.o;

Posted by Addie on 2007-08-19 01:05:21 As a fellow Texan, I can honestly say that people in Waco definatly are crackheads, speaking from my personal experience. Posted by Erik on 2007-08-19 04:45:43 As a fan of the Nye... I apologize on behalf of Texas. Sorry for our ignorant folk Bill, don't let those few people ruin your impression of all Texans. mental deficiency

Posted by Runs With Dog on 2007-08-19 08:09:54 God (sic) wants humanity to remain ignorant so they will believe in him/her/it? Is that why in the bible he didn't want A&E to eat of the tree of knowledge?



God, the Great Pumpkin, The Easter Bunny.

Cultish superstitions. Posted by Harmon on 2007-08-19 08:27:30 I have found a happy medium. As a christian, I believe in God. As an educated engineer, I also believe in the laws of math and what any idiot can see before his eyes. With all things, there is always something in-between that makes the most sense. God is that which provides the spark of inspiration and love. Pure science is that which provides solace in understanding. Sometimes the two cross paths. As long as you have a good grip on both, you can see both. If you limit yourself to only one, you run the risk of never being happy. For what it's worth, that is how I maintain sanity and faith and knowlege all at the same time. But that's just me. Stupid is as stupid does...

Posted by JJ on 2007-08-19 14:25:04 This whole conversation is just about as retarded and innane as the above article. now that i think about it...

Posted by rez on 2007-08-19 18:23:13 i'm no longer mad at the atf, and to think, i've been wrong this whole time. BSAlert,com BS

Posted by woody on 2007-08-20 00:26:50 actually, the Waco Tribune-Herald did not pull the story from its site, BSAlert.com was just too lazy to find it. After a week or so, articles on the Tribune-Herald's web site are no longer free and one has to look in the archives for them.

Such laziness calls into question just how much of BSAlert.com's BS is really BS.



Do your own work, kids. origin of the word 'lunatic'

Posted by Literate Ape on 2007-08-20 02:35:26 the 'luna' in 'lunatic' _comes_ from the word for the moon... from the (not as ancient as the zombie jew story) belief that the light of the full moon would make you crazy.



saying 'lunartic' is unnecessary. Girls of Waco

Posted by Central Texas Bubba on 2007-08-20 15:04:31 I don't know about anything regarding the moon over Waco but I can tell you that from personal experience the girls are loose God Haters!

Posted by Concerned on 2007-08-20 17:05:36 As I read the replies on the misunderstanding in Waco I can only conclude one thing. You call those in Waco wackos! Can you here yourselves? The bottom line here is that the Bible proves science and, as evidence of the origin of man, it is an important part of the puzzle. Hating the Master Creator which some by faith and understanding have come to know within the pages of the Holy Bible is as closed-minded as anything else.

Those who believe and know beyond a shadow of a doubt will and are comforted in this present world and the next. The Bible is without doubt the only link with our Creator that we have and to ignore it and its scientific advancements is blindness and foolishness. So you're not really sure what is said within those pages. Why don't you look for yourselves instead of listing to another foolish person.



Love you all regardless,

Alan CStensel@Yahoo.com

Posted by Carl from L.A. on 2007-08-20 18:18:43 Raalnan5 says:

"By the way, The earth is actually in danger of man made global cooling, or at least that's what the first Earth Day was all about."



As a regional coordinator for the first earth day, I would like to make it clear that the above statement is a total fabrication.



If you can't make your point with the truth, just make it with lies, eh? I bet you believe that cutting taxes raises revenue, and we found the WMD's too. SCIENTIFIC MIND, SPIRITUAL HEART

Posted by KEVIN SCHMIDT, STELING VA on 2007-08-20 21:21:17 I believe in God too. But, I don't believe in the man made God in the man made Bible written by men and only men and then edited by more men in power so they could stay in power.



I thought God invented science. Why do the wackos in Waco deny science? Isn't that denying God's greatness? Isn't that committing blasphemy? Don't listen to Alan, he's another foolish person!

Posted by KEVIN SCHMIDT, STELING VA on 2007-08-20 21:35:25 Alan makes the following assumption, "The Bible is without doubt the only link with our Creator that we have and to ignore it and its scientific advancements is blindness and foolishness."





Excuse me Alan, but on what evidence do you base your findings? Let me answer that question for you, "faith." You base your findings on faith alone.



Too bad for you that science does not base their findings on faith, they base their findings on provable facts.



That's why science and religion have nothing to do with one another. They are completely incompatible systems, so the Bible proves nothing about science, and science can't prove much about the Bible either, unless you base your findings on faith. But then that wouldn't be science, that would be religion again.



But, besides that, Alan is also wrong about the link we have with God. He tries to claim a monopoly on God through the Bible. That old trick has been around since they wrote the Bible.



The truth is the light of God dwells in all hearts. You don't need a bible, or a preacher or anyone to show you the way. The true way is within. Posted by yeranalyst on 2007-08-20 23:22:23 There is no purpose in arguing with a person of faith about faith or almost anything else. They see the world through their filter of faith. Faith precludes rationality. Faith cannot be reasoned with. It is steeped in the supernatural. There is no logic in it. Reason requires logic and vice versa.

Faith is purely emotional. You may as well try to reason with a serial killer about the innate value of life. Fanatacism can be religious, ideological, political, nationalistic, whatever a person wants to submerge and vest their emotional being in.

Faith is very much involved in the authoritarian personality, the need to believe somebody or something knows what's going on and tells you what to do. Posted by Cranky Media Guy on 2007-08-21 02:09:33 "Most Christians, even in Waco, realize that the Bible is not a science book. Hopefully the atheists will catch on at some point."



It isn't the atheists who need that explained to them. It's the "Creation Scientists" and their followers.



The Bible is not a science book. It's a book of fairy tales. in response to alan

Posted by ben on 2007-08-21 13:24:26 Ok for future reference if you are planning to try to argue for the understanding of people you should first check your spelling. secondly this idea you propose is extremly close minded you are saying that we, as science minded indviduals, are limiting our scientific understanding by not reading the bible. well i was raised in a heavily christian household and have read the bible multiples times cover to cover, and the only thing that really ever struck me were the inconsistancies. the faults in science that the bible makes make it very hard to accept it as anything more than a painfully hard to read fairy tale. for one thing bats are not birds... i understand that the people who wrote the bible might make this mistake but if your god were the one that was behind the writing of the bible and he knew everything dont you think he would make sure they got the details right... there are also parts in the bible that strike me as not only fallible but down right criminal. for instance it states in the bible that a father should have the choice to sell his daughter into slavery for seven years... if that book holds as much athourity in waco as it sounds i may have to go there and get me a maid... Concerned

Posted by God Haters on 2007-08-21 17:03:20 So you still want to make assumptions on something that you haven't read or explored. Doesn't sound like good advice to me. how about you?



What inconsistencies are you talking about Ben?



Love you regardless,



Alan Weird logic

Posted by Leroy Low on 2007-08-21 22:51:28 OK - I have read through every post on this site and, while I don't claim to be an expert on the Bible, I have to say that it sounds really weird to me: God is all knowing; God is omnipotent; God is everpresent and everlasting and God makes mistakes?

How can that possibly be? How can any human know God's thoughts? People who say they "know" God, don't know. People who say they "don't know", know. H/T (Joseph Campbell, "The Power of Myth") God is such a huge concept, it gives me a head-ache trying to grasp it. Personally, I believe in the God of the founders: the "god" of nature. "In God I trust" doesn't make me a Christian, but I do believe in Science after all. One more thing!

Posted by Leroy Low on 2007-08-21 22:53:51 Please don't misconstrue my words . . . I wrote them from the bottom of my heart. "Belief"

Posted by KlumpyKat on 2007-08-22 07:36:35 BELIEF IS DENIAL OF REALITY. Waco is a wasteland

Posted by V-Awesome on 2007-08-22 11:20:58 I used to live there while I went to Baylor. I have never seen waterbugs that large. It's a great place if you never leave the campus. Of Course We've read it Alan!

Posted by voice of reason on 2007-08-22 15:33:23 Alan,

You blindly assumed that the violently anti-Christian atheists who are posting on this board have not read/studied the Bible.

Of course we've read it.

The question of God's existence is THE question, and the Bible is a major topic in the debate. It would be ignorant and illogical to denounce a book we've never read. And if nothing else, we believe in logic.

I know it might be hard for you to accept, be we have read and studied the bible, and have found it wanting.

Finally, the incident in Waco is upsetting because it is another example of the iron curtain of faith being drawn across potentially open minds. Fanatics, and i'm speaking of Christian Fundamentalists here primarily, shut down their capacity for reason whenever they so much as smell religious dissent. The audience in Waco stopped listening and got angry without any legitimate provocation, all because they realized they were in a room with someone who thought differently from them. These are the same people who will tell you that Global Warming is a myth without ever having investigated it, just because their sworn enemies...those dirty, immoral, pot smoking liberals...are championing the cause.

That is the definition of a closed mind: the inability to listen/hear/understand a viewpoint that differs from your own.

I suspect that if you were to take an honest look at yourself, and your actions in the defense of your religion, you would find yourself guilty of this particular crime.

On the other hand, I respect your willingness to engage in a debate (rather than declaring your faith and turning on your heels).

I sincerely hope everyone is right...and that the end, when it comes, is what we have anticipated. That in the afterlife the multitude of faiths find a way to co-exist.

But at the end of the day all I have is hope...not true knowledge. I choose to live my life to the fullest of my ability in light of that. I urge you to look inward and see if this isn't true for you as well.

Faith is Hope, disguised as Truth. correction

Posted by voice of reason on 2007-08-22 15:36:58 *but we have read and studied the bible...*

not "be we". Mr.

Posted by shabadoo on 2007-08-22 19:12:33 Obviously, not all the villages in Texas are missing their idiots. Poor Christards...

Posted by Reginald on 2007-08-22 20:51:36 will they ever get it? Posted by Lumpy on 2007-08-22 20:59:33 You mean people belive that there's this gawd person that is like a gazillion years old and he sits on a cloud somewhere and turns lights on and off and all that? Normal people?







Lumpy Sounds right

Posted by heh on 2007-08-23 00:22:11 I lived in Waco for a few years (sadly). This behavior sounds about right. I've thumbed through the Bible

Posted by Keight on 2007-08-23 14:08:49 I pick up the bible now and again, especially when I see people on the news quoting from it to justify why "God hates gays".

I am also aware that the country in which I reside is pretty much run by the Christian right.

So, I am interested in this Book for those reasons. I guess I just want to know what the people that are telling me how to live my life are reading.

Quite frankly I found it wordy and poorly thought out!

More importantly, this book is filled with hypocrisies, and is completely misogynistic (to an alarming degree).

I was raised catholic until I reached the age of reason, and feel, now, that these religions are created by men in power to pray on the weak and keep them that way.

Well that is my two cents.....

I think John Lennon had the right idea..... Posted by infinitum17 on 2007-08-23 22:14:38 I live in Texas, and it saddens me greatly to know that there are such people giving Texas such a bad name... they make great things in texas

Posted by Katrina. on 2007-08-26 15:58:04 Yet another group of highly intelligent people bred in Texas. Awesome.

Posted by Yournoseisrunny on 2007-08-26 16:16:33 To me it sounds like he was just adding something in his speech to make it a little bit more spicy or maybe humorous. Perhaps he just forgot where he was doing the speech.



I don't really enjoy how stupid all of the atheists come off either. It gives all of us a bad name. Someone's going to believe what they will, nothing you can say will change that, and saying ignorant things just adds to everyone's hate for us. I think you should either know what you're talking about or you shouldn't say anything. Considering about 85% of you haven't even read the bible. Posted by Wade on 2007-08-26 20:39:12 I live about 20 miles south of Waco. You just sorrta have to ignore the stupidity. Where to find FAITH....

Posted by Scott on 2007-08-27 07:11:44 You can find faith here: FAcIst THeocracy. The reaction is what matters

Posted by scott1607 on 2007-08-27 10:51:45 It's the way Christians react to any offense that disturbs me. If Nye's comment was truly offensive, they could have discussed it with him like rational adults. But as always, when they feel they are being challenged in any way, they rant and scream and throw tantrums like moronic three year olds. Maybe for the good of all society we should give fundamentalists a time out in the corner. Meanwhile the rest of us can evolve in peace. Come on guys!

Posted by Mr. Gunn on 2007-08-27 18:43:55 If the world only consisted of that which can be shown to be true, it'd be boring! That's why many people believe things are true that they merely want to be true.



It takes a strong mind to consistently make decisions based only on facts, and not everybody is up to the task, but they're still people, and we should have compassion for them. After all, it's mean to try to shatter that which makes life worth living for those people. Corinthians and Mr Gunn

Posted by Paul on 2007-08-27 22:06:11 Yes, I see Mr. Gunn. Bill Nye may understand facets of the universe, and should not share it with morons because they could hurt themselves with it.

1 Corinthians 8:11.

What shall we do so not to offend them? .............

And we can't blame the people of Waco for going to see Bill Nye, they thought they were going to see him perform one of his miracles.

Only one solution besides Scotts idea....I guess

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Alright, everybody back to your caves. Careful not to look into Bill Nyes eyes as you go then. Could be struck down Was Bill right?

Posted by Galileo on 2007-08-28 11:33:22 We were not there. We did not hear everything (including the tone and the prelude).

Maybe, just maybe, Bill was boo'd for using a "proof" that was not a proof. The fact that the Moon reflects light may be a poor proof that the Genesis passage is not correct.

Galileo was tried for something that was not totally related to the debate about the centre of the solar system. However, the public reason for his trial was the debate between sun-centred and earth-centred systems. When Galileo found satellites orbiting Jupiter, that was certainly NOT a proof that planets orbited the Sun. It may have been an indication that not everything orbited the Earth, but that was already known then (Venus and Mercury were often displayed as orbiting the Sun, which was orbiting the Earth).



Of course, even if Bill did use a poor 'proof', that does not make the other version correct.



PS: I went to a door and window store and they do count windows as "lights". As in "here is a nice model with four lights". Posted by Aaron on 2007-08-28 20:20:17 So many people making so many rash, uninformed generalisations. Left or Right, no one's innocent. Flame me all you want, I won't be back. Arguing in this forum is pointless. Posted by Methanol on 2007-08-29 06:30:32 *sniffle*



It made me cry a little inside. Sticks and stones flying everywhere, back and forth. What is this? The great Nye debate?



Back on topic... I love my friends of every religion and background (because we atheist-Christian-Hindu-Catholic-wiccan-whatevers know ourselves and respect)! We love Texas! And... We love Bill Nye the Science Guy! what the hay

Posted by erny the nosepicker on 2007-08-29 09:06:55 all i know is that if he says the earth isn't flat next i'm going to crap my pants right were i stand!!!

nuf said!!! lol f*cking hics

Posted by wedey on 2007-08-29 12:36:40 XD haha hick alert

Posted by spekelley on 2007-08-29 13:28:24 haha oh waco, the armpit of the world. Posted by Mike on 2007-08-29 13:39:43 Close-minded fundamentalist atheists are just as bad a s close-minded fundamentalist theists. Posted by saddddd on 2007-08-29 20:29:23 I find it hilarious that these people boo'd Bill Nye, whom is a great role model for their kids. Damned overzealous Christians.



"WE BELIEVE IN GOD PLOX" The Genesis verse is not what you think

Posted by Erin on 2007-08-29 21:00:02 Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars." Is misunderstood by BOTH Christians AND atheists. The verse is referring to the solid fact that the universe is composed of positive and negative energy. Sadly most people both Christian and non Christian have no understanding of this solid fact. Paul Dirac and Erwin Shroedinger both independently discovered, as did others such as Viktor Schauberger, that there is a sea of negative energy electrons that is invisible to our devices which are designed to push around positive energy electrons. This negative energy sea can be tapped for anti gravity, endless free overunity energy, and more. God was showing us this in that Genesis verse. The "night side light" has nothing to do with the Moon. Its the negative matter/negative/dark matter/dark energy sea which fills the universe: The quantum vacuum negative energy.



I propose that both Christians and Atheists put aside your differences and help us mass produce machines and devices that tap into this "night side energy". PS The "Dark" and "Negative" does NOT mean evil. It means opposite to positive or poorly understood. The word "occult" in and of itself is not bad: It simply means secret.



Go to www.cheniere.org and www.zpenergy.com for info on this negative energy. Oh jesus....

Posted by Senada on 2007-08-30 02:16:19 I live in Mclennan county..and all i can say is...i'm sorry. Texas Waco

Posted by str8shootr on 2007-08-30 11:42:53 I can't believe I read all of the above comments. I must be bored. You people really worry that much about what one person or another says about a God??? (I am also an athiest) If you truly believed and had strength, you would not be influenced at all by anyones remarks. Enough said, off to Keelynet.com How does the bible handle lunar eclipses?

Posted by ReadyTeddy on 2007-08-30 14:43:51 Maybe the all mighty turns the moon off for a short while just to remind people who's in charge? Or maybe Lucifer swallows the moon and God makes him spit it out? I'm sure there is a good spirtually-based explanation. Nye wrong on multiple levels

Posted by Objective Person on 2007-08-31 09:08:03 Quantum mechanically speaking, the moon does produced the photons we see coming from it. Photons from the sun are absorbed by the surface of the moon and “new” photons are emitted.



Semantically speaking, a light is “something that makes things visible or affords illumination”. Any bright object, depending on its use, can serve as a light.



It sounds like Nye was trying to be offensive. He succeeds in offending both Christians and the educated. Nye wrong on multiple levels

Posted by Objective Person on 2007-08-31 10:41:09 Quantum mechanically speaking, the moon does produce the photons we see coming from it. Photons from the sun are absorbed by the surface of the moon and “new” photons are emitted.



Semantically speaking, a light is “something that makes things visible or affords illumination”. Any bright object, depending on its use, can serve as a light.



It sounds like Nye was trying to be offensive. He succeeds in offending both Christians and the educated. SEND IN THE ARMY!!!

Posted by brent on 2007-08-31 11:31:09 Send in the dang army for crying out loud!!! Jay-sus doesn't lie!

Posted by Darwin II on 2007-09-01 04:53:57 But folks.... Jay-sus didn't lie! Just listen to most any small town Texas radio station to get the Ta-ruth!

I was born down there in Texico, but fortunately my family escaped the flat-earthers ,,,, even before we physically left Texas our minds and hearts (and brains) were elsewhere.

Imagine what would have happened if Nye had also tried to tell them that the earth is round, and revolves around the sun.Heresy! Grease up the rack! Burn the books! Jay-sus lives!

Southern religious fanatics are ALWAYS right! Just ask em'! After all, they have Jay-sus on their side.

Thank Jay-sus I escaped Texico. photon guru

Posted by Ronert Falbo on 2007-09-01 18:58:14 Well technically the "reflection of a photo occurs when the photon is absorbed by a electron in orbit of an atom which raise the energy level of the electron which then drops back down and re-emits a photon. So it is a source of light that is optically pumped by the sun..and it was good Regional Earth Days?

Posted by Lyle on 2007-09-01 20:06:54 Carl from L.A. wrote:

Raalnan5 says:

"By the way, The earth is actually in danger of man made global cooling, or at least that's what the first Earth Day was all about."



As a regional coordinator for the first earth day, I would like to make it clear that the above statement is a total fabrication.



If you can't make your point with the truth, just make it with lies, eh? I bet you believe that cutting taxes raises revenue, and we found the WMD's too.



Check you own facts, Carl.

1) I REMEMBER the 1st Earth Day. Do you? My Early elementary school class mates went home in fear of the impending new ice age that was bound to envelope us before we grew up. Maybe that was just in my region?

Later, Time and Newsweek featured cover stories about the coming menace of Global cooling. Maybe those were just my neighborhood editions?



2) When taxes are too high (more than about 20% in aggregate) reducing the rate does enhance revenue. This is experience, not theory: I've lived through this, too. So have you unless you're a pre-school kid.



3) Even though the U.S. gave more than a year's notice before invading, small caches (but not vast stockpiles) of banned weapons were indeed picked up. Even network, CNN and NPR newscasts mentioned some of the finds.



Strike three. You lose(r). New Freethought Wiki

Posted by Pile on 2007-09-01 23:47:48 Hey, if you theists or atheists want more resources on the debate over religion and science, check out FreeThought Encyclopedia. This is a new wiki that's being set up to answer all the various questions regarding religion and rationality. so?

Posted by nobody in particular on 2007-09-02 00:00:30 bill nye is an annoying re, but since i dont beleve in god i dont see what the big deal is. everyone knows the moon doesnt actually glow. SEND IN THE FREAKIN ARMY!!!!

Posted by brent on 2007-09-02 09:45:03 just send in the army and get it over with!!! An Idea for a new Act for Bill...

Posted by tobeimean on 2007-09-02 09:49:04 Sorry to hear the once famous Bill Nye is reduced to doing lectures in towns like Waco. That's a ways down the scale from national TV. Maybe he and Paul Zaloom (Beaker's World) could join forces and barnstorm the Bible belt. With Nye's odd demeanor and Zaloom's puppet skills they'd be a hit in spite of the close-minded peckerwoods in the audiences. Posted by mack on 2007-09-02 10:29:48 And don't forget that in Texas, a bill has been passed that would allow students to use religious arguments in class, tests, and homework, and it would be considered a valid answer. If the science scores sucked before, it's nothing compared to what the scores will be in some areas of Texas if this becomes law.



I hope it doesn't, and if it does, I can't wait until someone sends their non-Christian kid through and they use their religion's answers. Maybe we are cRaZy

Posted by Jenni on 2007-09-04 16:23:35 Having lived here all my life I can say that the people here will beat you with their Book but they are the last ones to follow their own advice, Hypocrites. Not all but most. People around here are FANATICAL about their religion, if you're not a member of their religion then you are wrong and are a sinner in Hells Hand basket. I've tried to have intelligent conversation with some of the folks around here about religion and I've found it's the quickest way to piss someone off. Even if try and approach it objectively. Half the time they will talk, but not listen. To those few who think we should be blown up, have some maturity, you probably don't live in a golden city either. Hmmmm?

Posted by superman on 2007-09-04 17:02:24 The third comment on this article's name is "A. Theist"

Do we think this implies he's an atheist or a theist? Close Minded?

Posted by DanM on 2007-09-04 18:13:24 "Close-minded fundamentalist atheists are just as bad a s close-minded fundamentalist theists"



I fail to understand how it is close minded to not believe in something when the only evidence for it is an ancient book that we are told was inspired by God. To make matters worse it is a book that has hundreds of different versions because many of the words that were originally written do not have a direct translation nowadays. The results are that whoever decides to translate the text makes up their own words to fit their own beliefs.



Yes, science always changes too. It, however, changes on new discoveries and by questioning previous held beliefs.



When a scientist or an atheist don't know something they look for the answer. This is far from being close minded. Saying that "God did it" any time that you do not know the answer, on the other hand, is about as close minded as you can get, not to mention that it is incredibly lazy. f*cking Texans

Posted by Bilal on 2007-09-04 18:34:39 f*cking Texans there all red neck uneducated morons Plus it's where bush hangs out

Gayest state ever Posted by yknom2 on 2007-09-04 18:35:30 holy retard batman, those people are retarded Forgive them

Posted by Been to Waco on 2007-09-04 19:31:33 They ave a nice river, a good Marriott and a great pub (the Grasshopper) Very interesting

Posted by Joan on 2007-09-04 19:47:25 I have lived in Waco about 8 years and the people that live here are really no different than any other place I have lived and I am in my 60's. By the way I have lived in a lot of places.

What is interesting is that people adding comments here are judging a town and Texas on ONE PERSON's REMARKS. That they believed in God and left with the children. While reading the posts I thought these people writing these comments really believe THEY are smart. Goes to show that most people will get on the road that is most traveled and just follow the masses. Only a few disagreed and wrote that the others had jumped to conclusions. stupid

Posted by Http://jordan.rano.us on 2007-09-04 21:06:32 dumb backwater hicks. close minded and f*cking stupid if i do somehting random, will anyone notice?

Posted by some guy in hawaii who got waaaay too bored.... on 2007-09-05 02:14:49 the bunnies did it... i think i have the least offensive and boring post here, yay me! and yay bunnies! and yay explosives! wait.... that could be offensive... i lose. Is he really that dumb?

Posted by garyvdh on 2007-09-05 02:22:05 ...that he believes that verse in the Bible was inferring that the moon emits light? What a moron!!! :D



I'll bet he believes that the sun rises in the East too! Or that there are four corners of the world!!! :)



Somebody needs to go back to school and learn what metaphorical language is. Nice comment..

Posted by Bilalisaretard on 2007-09-05 03:27:03 "f*cking Texans there all red neck uneducated morons Plus it's where bush hangs out

Gayest state ever"



You're the f*cking moron. You're stereotyping people in Texas which shows how retarded you really are. I'm from Texas and I'm not a bible thumper or ignorant. Plus learn grammar you stupid f*ck:



"there all red neck"



Do you mean "They're all redneck" genius boy???



Also, you didn't use any punctuation in your comment. Maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to use a period before you start pointing out the ignorance of an entire state. Luna-Tics

Posted by Anonymous on 2007-09-05 06:37:10 I got comment (Towards the top)... take a moment to read and appreciate the humour guys =D Cheesey

Posted by Jaygee on 2007-09-05 08:12:50 They are all wrong..............the moon's made of cheese ! WOW

Posted by Anonymous on 2007-09-05 08:14:03 I Went to college in Waco and was born and raised in San Antonio and reading this...made me feel like I was back there...because those people really do act like that and think like that...what most people don't know about Waco though is nintey percent of them are uneducated murderers and rapists and child molesters from the maximum security prison down the road...so i'm not surprised bill got a bad rapp...I Love You Bill don't let waco bring you down. Bill Nye Hero Guy

Posted by Muchak on 2007-09-05 08:33:49 Bill Nye is officially my new hero. It takes guts to admit the moon isn't a light source....hehe What?

Posted by Me on 2007-09-05 08:39:58 The bible was written when everyone thought the earth was flat and at the center of the universe. Bill Nye wasn't dissing the bible or Christians or any specific group. He was merely using that phrase as an example to make a scientific point. It's been pretty common throughout the centuries for scientists at lectures to do that. Although it's pretty sad that now, in the 21st century, it still needs to be explained and is met with ridicule. So I guess Waco is the moronic capitol of the world. I'm so ashamed to be American right now. Addressed to Wow

Posted by Joan on 2007-09-05 10:38:23 You went to college in Waco and you think that 90% of the people in Waco are uneducated murderers, rapists and child molesters? 90%??? You were born and raised in San Antonio? Watch it. Careful of what you say you are representing San Antonio. As you can see by these comments people will start battering San Antonio because of what they view as your ignorance.



By the way someone wrote that the Bible was written when the world was thought to be flat. Read Job 22:14

and Isaiah 40:22. It is written that it was known to be round. OH MY FREAKING GOD!

Posted by Anonymous on 2007-09-05 15:04:04 WILL YOU PEOPLE JUST SHUT UP!? Posted by Coragyps on 2007-09-05 15:06:31 Joan, darlin':



Isa 40:22 says "circle of the Earth." Circles are flat, even here in Texas. Posted by kshack on 2007-09-05 15:50:18 not all of us in Waco are stupid ignorant theists. I am a proud atheist and wished i could have gone to see mr nye. i watched a video of it on the local cable channel and nye said nothing wrong. as a very vocal atheist himself, he could not perpetuate the mythical nonsense that the baptist majority here subscribe to. Que?

Posted by Bubba Gump on 2007-09-05 16:38:46 "WILL YOU PEOPLE JUST SHUT UP!?"



Which ones, the morons or the assholes?? Coragyps

Posted by Joan on 2007-09-05 18:08:59 The meaning of the word circle in Hebrew (which is the language that was used in Isaiah & Job ) is sphere or orb indicating that the world is round. So when the Bible was written it was telling us the world is round. How would they have known that so long ago? They couldn't have known. The Bible was inspired by God. Re: Coragyps

Posted by B on 2007-09-05 19:45:31 People knew the world was round then because of eclipses and created sun and lunar calendars. The Greeks, Egyptians, Indians, all sorts of pagans in Europe, and civilizations in the Americas all knew the earth was round. Duh. i knew some parts where slow but

Posted by Anonymous on 2007-09-06 06:34:25 why do people make his debate so black and white. why can't it be a mixture of both creation and evolution. You people are wrong to bring down that Sate

Posted by CASurfnut on 2007-09-06 11:41:51 Texas does not need outsiders to help them to run their Sate as some States do, like CA. And look it up, they are one of the highest in school test resules. How would you like it if someone put you and your town down for something someone did and I am sure there is something in your Sate and or town that someone could laugh about too.

I live in Sacramento and talk about dumb? CA has some too. Plus Bill brings up the Bible as if it is not the truth and is taking stabs at it. Have you ever heard him? If not you need to before you go off on people. You did not hear the whole story people, just what they wanted you to hear.

Also TN is the Bible beltway. Sorry for the missed keys

Posted by CASurfnut on 2007-09-06 11:48:34 Sorry guys, my fingers go too fast on the keyboard at times and I missed some letters, like the t in State and t in results. But I am sure you are smart enough to know what I was saying anyway. If not, just shot me! Haha 2 words: MARSHAL LAW!!!!

Posted by bret on 2007-09-06 12:16:55 if those waco people like to misbehave! just send in the army and declare marshal law. Heh, Bill was lucky he was in Waco.

Posted by Tiberius on 2007-09-06 14:30:39 If he'd have made those comments at a speaking engagement in Dublin or Stephenville, they would have nailed his ass to a flaming cross, lynched him, used his corpse for target practice, then tied his blackened remains to the back of a big dually and dragged it around the high school parking lot, screaming "white power!" To Coragyps

Posted by Joan on 2007-09-06 17:06:10 Glad to see you agree with me. That was my point.

Someone here said when the Bible was written the people in the world thought it was flat. I directed them to the Bible, where it says it was round.Job is the oldest book in the Bible. It refers to the circle. (sphere, orb) But Columbus's time came a long time after the book of Job was written and if you remember during their time the world was thought to be flat by the Europeans. There were eclipses during that time also. They knew the sun, moon etc was round, but they thought the earth was flat. That was in our history books anyway. I am interested did anyone else have that taught in school? Uh, No...

Posted by Bill Nye on 2007-09-06 18:30:43 Genesis 1:16 does not say that the moon emits its own light, so the comment by Nye was not necessary. It is a canard. It speaks of a "great light" by day "and a lesser light" by night. Obviously, this is correct. Even you wacko atheists have to admit it is brighter in the daytime than it is at night....or do you not believe in the existence of Day and/or Night either???? Wacoan

Posted by John on 2007-09-07 02:41:55 Hey...I live in Waco and I find it bad that people are always putting us down...I men we are smarter than that...bastards... Bishop Bubba Buddha

Posted by Fade on 2007-09-07 10:22:06 Oh these False Christians. IF they were REAL christians in Texas, they'd ban football, as Leviticus directs that those who touch the pigskin are all going to hell.



And put that bacon down, Sinner! Posted by Smarter than fucking Wacoan on 2007-09-07 11:01:10 it's spelled 'mean', with an A. Boo

Posted by Anonymous on 2007-09-07 12:08:01 Sometimes I wish I'd never been born again! Posted by Kairu on 2007-09-07 15:04:22 Yeah he really didn't need to bring up Genesis, it was kinda irrelevant to the topic and made it sound like it was mistaken. At least, it'd sound to dumb texans like he meant it was mistaken. Galileo

Posted by blogbob on 2007-09-08 00:13:26 Wasn't it Galileo who said that the Holy Writ was intended to show men how to work to get to heaven, while Science was intended to show how the heavens worked?



Oh, that's right. Galileo was convicted of being a heretic. It is rumored that upon rising from his knees after receiving his sentence, he muttered, "But it [the Earth] moves!" Religious dogma at the time postulated (decreed?) that if the Earth rotated, we'd all be blown away by the wind created by the rotation. Posted by Alyson on 2007-09-08 21:54:24 I'm not surprised at this. There are still people who believe the earth is flat as well. boss

Posted by askewcarpenter on 2007-09-09 08:33:30 those who use hate and religion in the same statement are the farthest from it. Sir

Posted by Mr. Porter on 2007-09-10 09:14:45 Ladies and gentlemen, lassies and laddies (and Bill Nye):

Please understand the Bible is using phenomenological language when it refers to the moon being a light.

This is similar to making the statement that the sun rises. Most people know that the sun does not rise, but we still describe it as such because in everyday speech we tend to speak more phenomenologically than scientifically. Posted by Ron B. on 2007-09-10 10:08:14 I agree with Mr. Porter's comment. What if we were to contend that everyone who lives in the same city as a weatherman who refers to the "sunrise" is an idiot. After all, if there's one idiot in a city, then the whole city must be filled with idiots. Makes sense to me. You bet! I guess we'll have to condemn the whole country as idiots then, right?



To assume that everyone in Waco, TX is an ignorant moron because of the actions of one moron is even more idiotic than saying the moon doesn't reflect light. Inbred

Posted by Mike on 2007-09-10 15:02:39 What a bunch of inbred redneck backwards hicks ! Thats Jews

Posted by jdx on 2007-09-10 16:08:29 "Oh these False Christians. IF they were REAL christians in Texas, they'd ban football, as Leviticus directs that those who touch the pigskin are all going to hell.



And put that bacon down, Sinner!"



Thats Jews, dumbass. Pretty dumb thing to say anyway. It's deeper than this..

Posted by Kadaken on 2007-09-10 17:59:36 All I have to say, is if you ever wanted the truth, religion, science, all knowing intelligence of this entire existence, then you would literally have to cover every possible element in existence...which means every lie every truth and every thought that can be thought. Every sight sound and feeling that can be achieved (which automatically excludes us at our point in time because we can't hear, see, and feel everything) is all included. Skipping over things means you don't get the experience and facts become faiths as well. I do not follow religion at all but realize with out at least understanding it..we'd have nothing else to compare our thoughts NOW to. And perhaps it's not possible to come up with science until we realize the fallacies in the bible. Maybe even that was the point of the bible. who knows..but the fact is..it's hear..and must be researched to claim our intelligence over our BELIEF of what is real. Duhhh

Posted by Some Guy on 2007-09-10 19:20:36 Stop reading this. Go play soccer. Your IQ just lost 10 points. Beliefs

Posted by oneguyinacrowdoftenthousand on 2007-09-10 20:19:36 What one group of people believe, and what another group of people believe. Okay, two beliefs. That has no reason to mean that these two groups should hate each other! This whole discussion has turned into an argument, one group of people saying, "YAY BILL NYE!" Another group saying, "BOO YOU GUYS WHO SUPPORT BILL NYE!" And another group saying "TEXAS IS NOT BAD!" Texas is like any other state, they believe what they want to believe. This is no reason to steriotype them just because of one group. So quit it.



NO I am not from Texas

NO I am not supporting a certain religeon here

NO DO NOT correct me on any spelling errors! DUH

Posted by Zerobeat on 2007-09-11 02:21:04 d earth is flat....otherwise water would b fallin from it's side if it was round.......



lol i kid BILL NYE ROCKS....I LOVE MAGIC SCHOOL BUS well hes wrong anyway?

Posted by actually. on 2007-09-11 06:24:32 im never coming back to this website so dont bother replying but i just thought id add...



photons of light do not bounce off of an object when they reflect.



the reflection is made of new and DIFFERENT photons. so technically he is wrong anyway, because there ARE two light sources. the moon is reflecting the light of the sun, but the light is not the SAME light.



maybe when scientists and religious people embrace a faith where science and religion are one, people will spend less time fighting themselves, and more time united. productively progressing humanity, and science OH come on

Posted by Vamputer on 2007-09-11 08:30:14 Come on people in Waco we all know you know nothing about science because yopu all belive in God or whatever that thing Really is but uh Each and everyone one of you owe Bill Nye a Big Sorry just because you belive in god doesnt mean your right God is as unreal as Television Shows god is fake for if god was real sciende would have found out for sure a long time ago that he was but instead the science people allow the Bible Bumpers to belive what they want isint it time the bible bumpers let the science people belive what they want after all when a Comet come straight towards Earth about to kill everyone alive its the scienbce guys who will save our asses or dye trying which is alot more then the bible bumpers will do all gathered up in a building under a cross saying god will save us but it would never be god it would Be Science Thats Saves Humanities Butt so people of Waco Texas GROW UP AND APOLIGISE to Bill Nye Who is better then all of you Praise White Jay-sus

Posted by Master Bates on 2007-09-11 10:00:05 jay-sus died for your sins. Jay-sus rose from the dead to show bill nye that the moon indeed did create light. JAY-SUS WAS WHITE AS THE PREACHERS COLLAR. This is known ta-ruth. Jay-sus invented the photon and the internet and all of its pornographic images and even stared in Debbie Does Dallas which was filmed in gods chosen town of Wacko Texas. PRAISE WHITE JAY- SUS. he smashed the world flat and then when science found the world to be round he re inflated it. PRAISE JAY-SUS!!! Christianity

Posted by Truth on 2007-09-11 11:55:47 Christianity is nothing more than modern day sun worship, with 'Jesus' in place of the sun. The story of Jesus is actually a plagiarized version of the Egyptian story of Horus. The ten commandments? Taken right out of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, Noah's Ark? plagiarized version of the Epic of Gilgamesh.

The bible is literally one big rewrite of Egyptian beliefs! LOL!



Don't believe me?

zeitgeistmovie.com save me baby jay-sus

Posted by master bates on 2007-09-11 13:12:55 so now i pose the question what do scientologists think about bill nye are they for or against the bible. should all chrisitans stop watching movies because their actors are worshipping a "false god". SAVE ME TOM CRUISE WITH YOUR WITCHCRAFT Religious nuts

Posted by spaceman on 2007-09-11 13:41:29 most christians i know are lunatics. they all need to be burned Lawl

Posted by Trev Dogg on 2007-09-11 17:41:34 I love it when ppl try to defend religion.... then claim we dont know the bible. Some ppl cant even defend religion without basing all their ideas on faith lol "Santa is real, my friend saw him!" lawl Nye-sayers...?

Posted by who me? on 2007-09-11 18:37:57 Would the people who booed Nye (and apparently are responsible for G.W. Bush being President) be "Nye-sayers"...? Posted by shizzle on 2007-09-11 18:46:56 Only defective christian religions are like this...

Baptists, Lutherans, Mormons, Baptists again...Eastern Othodox....hmm what else...



Anyways, the Roman Catholic church actually accepts evolution as a fact[none of the defects accept this]. The moon glowing because of the sun as a fact[none of the defects accept this]. Blacks, Asians, Indian [non of the defects accept this].



The only thing they say is that soul has no evolved which has been the debate between philosophers for thousands of years, and will always be a debate for eternity.



The only that the church actually stands on is that god created the universe. Big bang included, since obviously it will never be explained why the fundemental elements existed in the first place. Interesting

Posted by Zeke on 2007-09-11 21:48:57 It is sad, and terribly wrong, to take the words and actions of the few and, with rushed pride and ignorance, apply them to your pre-existing world-view of such a group with a shout of victory.



For instance, the former would apply to me if I made a jab at "the obvious lack of Jesus" in the words of a poster named "spaceman", who said the following:



"most christians i know are lunatics. they all need to be burned".



Now, to be fair, perhaps we would all do good to read the post of the poster, "Objective Person", who said:



"Quantum mechanically speaking, the moon does produced the photons we see coming from it. Photons from the sun are absorbed by the surface of the moon and “new” photons are emitted.



Semantically speaking, a light is “something that makes things visible or affords illumination”. Any bright object, depending on its use, can serve as a light.



It sounds like Nye was trying to be offensive. He succeeds in offending both Christians and the educated."



Also, since I like the rake the fire, check out this quote from Darwin:



"In scientific investigations it is permitted to invent any hypothesis, and if it explains various large and independent classes of facts it rises to the rank of a well-grounded theory". - Charles Darwin



"Hypothesis non fingo." - Issac Newton



Think about it. the disrespect of intelligence

Posted by bone on 2007-09-12 05:52:55 in our culture, from a very young age, we're taught that intelligence is not cool, words like geek, nerd, 4 eyes, spring to mind. is it no wonder that the masses react like this when asked to think or consider theories to the contrary? intelligence and thus knowledge is not only under valued today, they are interpretted as disrespectful to the norm. aborted fetuses look like road kill.

Posted by A sloppy diarrhea cake. on 2007-09-12 08:55:12 Our human version of intelligence has nothing to do with what we know from books. its about communication. Everything else is memory. Shut up

Posted by Randy JHX on 2007-09-12 08:56:34 Shut up you fagot. You don't know what you are talking about. Why don't you eat a sloppy diarrhea cake. Just send in the Army and declare marshal law

Posted by brent on 2007-09-12 12:41:53 heck if those people from waco like causeing trouble, then just get in the army and declare marshal law, It's that simple!!! Look to criticize...

Posted by Zav Dur on 2007-09-12 15:59:36 first off, the sun isn't light- but it produces light, the moon isn't light- but it reflects light; I don't see any contradiction in this Bible verse, mearly a contradiction in how it was interpretated to imply it was refering to what the source of light is... gotta remember who God was originally talking too, he had to dumb it down a bit.



Shame on Bill for creating a contradiction and then pointing it out...

(Bill Nye is awesome though~loved watching his shows in school) Posted by wil on 2007-09-12 18:49:14 Actually this "incident" occurred in April, 2006 - 16 months ago. Bill Nye appeared on Keith Olbermanns MSNBC show the next night and basically said it was no big deal (msnbc.msn.com/id/12252465), one lady did leave with her children and that was it. It's amazing how the internet can blow things completely out of proportion. Annunaki, anyone?

Posted by Evil1 on 2007-09-12 22:03:28 Wonder what would happen if someone made those people watch a Michael Tsarion or Zecharia Sitchin conferance!!



Or what if you make them take a closer look at the 1 Dollar bill and pointed out the over abundant amount of items by the count of 13 on it? Or the presence of Lilith and her twin owls? I'm sure that it's in "God" that "We Trust".



There's a million things wrong with the world around us, and I give the man credit for being tame enough to point out something that simple.



At the same time, I must inevitable discredit people who get offended so hastily when someone points out that the bible is in no way a substitute for science. Yes, the man brought it up... probably as part of a common tactic used by public speakers to capture the interest of the audience: refer to something they know about, and add to it.



Bottom line is: anyone who gets offended that easily has a few more things to learn before they can make any claims at understanding the greater works of the universe. Posted by Jhey on 2007-09-15 13:13:01 Step 1. God creates heaven, earth, etc. etc. etc.

Step 2. Man studies earth.

Step 3. Bible-lovers attack man who studies Gods creation.

Step 4. ???

Step 5. Profit! Posted by Jesus on 2007-09-17 17:52:42 LMAO! "We believe in God!" Random alert! My, my. PLEASE READ

Posted by Another Christian on 2007-09-19 17:32:11 http://www.answersingenesis.org/ Science is the study of God's creation.



I'm sorry that this debate has been so unecessarily heated, there really isn't anything to argue about. Please refer to the link and openly consider the information provided there.



All things are from God.

-Your Sister in Christ Posted by Paul on 2007-09-22 13:30:31 There are countless religions, they can't all be right. Religion has been responsible for more wars and suppression of people than anything else in history. When the creationist theory is being taught in schools over scientific fact it really is time to worry.



I may not be religious but I follow a few simple rules. Treat everybody as an equal. Respect others beliefs and customs and measure success as what you do for others, not the money you make.



Peace to all dudes. Arrogant Atheists in here...

Posted by Anonymous on 2007-09-24 17:59:19 You guys take the Bible too literally. Back then, how much good would it do if God told whomever that wrote Genesis "And God created a source of light, and an object that reflects light off that source to make it appear as a light source, which in fact it is not"? Which is easier for people to comprehend: what I said above, or "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars." You decide. Posted by Styggson on 2007-10-01 10:31:25 I wanna be a american idiot MARSHAL LAW!!!! thank you very much!!!!!!! pleeeease

Posted by brent on 2007-10-01 11:38:26 i say marshal law, I want to see curfiews, razorwire, humvees with 50 cal gun mounts and a military presence keeping them in check!!! simple as that!!! Love

Posted by The name is Lee on 2007-10-05 01:28:48 The athesist may not believe in God but God believes in the atheist.



Come vist my church sometime.

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IHS Posted by Pile on 2007-10-08 08:33:19 Replace "god" with Apollo, Thor, Santa, Bigfoot, Tooth Fairy,or Mother Goose and if you have a normally-functioning brain, you might feel a little foolish. Then ask yourself what actual evidence is there for any of these things being real? A good source for argument is at the religious discussion resource encyclopedia. yo

Posted by clifford coleman on 2007-10-09 07:08:30 again it proves that americans have the iq of a house brick. dumb bastards true that

Posted by david on 2007-10-10 10:58:51 i recently hooked up with an amazing south african girl and am american, but i think americans(including myself) are dumb, but them waco ppl are below that, there isnt a place with peopl that stupid to comair them to. after hookin up with this chick i did relize how uncultured, stuck up, arrogent, dumb, and selfish we americans realy are. but the land is free witch is alot to say. every country has its flaws and those are just a few of ours that come to min. p.s. i do relize i suck at spelling and that most of this post is probably way wron. feal free to make fun. i am american after all. They deserve it.

Posted by NiceNCool1 on 2007-10-15 15:43:04 Religious people deserve to be ridiculed for their idiotic beliefs. We shouldn't be pandering to the religious community. They should be treated like the delusional oddballs they really are. Religion doesn't deserve respect it hasn't EARNED ANY. D :

Posted by ML on 2007-10-17 14:39:18 Mother Theresa



Gandhi



The list goes on... Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-17 20:02:29 Imagine all the effort that has gone in to this post being used for something good. MARSHAL LAW!!!

Posted by brent on 2007-10-20 19:05:24 MARSHAL LAW IS THE WAY TO GO Posted by J on 2007-10-26 23:37:28 Lordy! Someone call Janet Reno! Waco

Posted by David Whitten on 2007-12-04 08:34:19 Yes, this is a very strange place to live, particularly with the stench coming from Crawford, Texas. Ignorance abounds here. However, if you stay away from the natives, Ted Nugent, and President Cretin, it is bearable. I prefer this to the humidity and traffic in Houston, Texas. Here, I just burn Bibles for light. Still believe in god?

Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-06 16:01:53 ^^^ proves that you're an idiot if you do. Arf

Posted by Richard on 2008-01-10 22:44:52 Bill Nye happened to be an expert on this subject you know! Posted by Ned on 2008-02-01 17:05:13 Let me tell you, if it was up to me, i would surround the town with watchtowers, razorwire, a minefield and 10,000 combat ready marines, but thats just me!!! But it damn should be so, it just should!!!! BILL BILL BILL!

Posted by Miss Information on 2008-02-02 11:16:56 Science rules! hahahahahahahha

Posted by idk on 2008-02-14 20:00:35 hhahahahahha...dumbasses Genesis 1:16 NLT

Posted by TJF588 on 2008-02-23 08:47:04 Taken from the New Living Translation:



"For God made two great lights, the sun and the moon, to shine down upon the earth. The greater one, the sun, presides during the day; the lesser one, the moon, presides during the night. He also made the stars."



Now, don't go swingin' your victory [insert swingable item here]s, yet. This is one translation, mind, not the original text. From the Bible Translation Team list:



PENTATEUCH

Daniel I. Block, General Reviewer

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

GENESIS

Allas Ross, Trinity Episcopal Seminary

John Sailhamer, Northwestern College

Gordon Wenham, The Cheltenham and Gloucester College of Higher Education



With a few more people at the end as overall handlers (or whate'er they did toward the NLT). I got over halfway through the comments, but to the point I stopped, no mention of the ways in which the original language (assumably Hebrew) could be interpretted for that verse had been discussed.



For what it's worth though, I doubt that Bill Nye would outrightly try to be offensive. Dumbass'd, perhaps, but no "fire and brimstone" of the non-God calling. Haha

Posted by Dustin on 2008-02-27 21:58:23 This is hilarious, exactly the reason I moved from Waco, everyone there is f*cking retarded.



Kinda makes me wonder what kind of response he would've gotten at Baylor :-p awsome

Posted by natalie on 2008-03-24 01:05:35 i think everything is true:] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Posted by yourmom on 2008-06-09 04:38:23 Nothing like news from Dumbf*ckistan to brighten up my day. ....

Posted by tii on 2008-06-28 12:28:08 what a bunch of crap, just go on about you're day bill. the insane people have no right in stopping what you believe

anyways...wackos...pft make me laugh all the time Posted by Phish on 2008-07-11 00:34:20 more like Wack-o texas...amiright?



hope no one did that one yet Waco people.....

Posted by Anonymous on 2008-08-01 23:23:01 I'm from Texas, if you come here just stay out of Waco. Everyone's lives will be better. Posted by liz on 2008-08-03 14:39:50 Guys, lunatic already refers to the moon, its not a pun, not a coincidence, look it up. It was funny until you guys all made it clear you didn't know where lunatic comes from. "lunartics" is just retarded... you know what lunar is but do you even know what Luna is? i always knew ole' bill was the shit

Posted by yeefoo on 2008-09-17 22:57:47 that dude is a CHAMPION Posted by P Smith on 2008-09-27 18:06:35 Kevin said:

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christianity has an amazing defense mechanism.... ANYTHING that even suggests that it could be a superstitious myth or that discredits even one word of that text, (written thousands of years ago, by people who thought god wanted them to cut the throats of goats and then burn them in sacrifice), is OF THE DEVIL....

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And the christianuts wonder why I say they're no different from fanatical muslims. Go figure. 9_9 thats insane and I'm a Christian...

Posted by Anonymous on 2008-10-12 07:40:33 no really that is really insane

I personally don't even know WHY Bill was booed for stating the obvious also to those that talk about the unicorn problem look up Strong's dictionary for what the word means in its original language NOT in crappy bible versions even if the KJV started it

in other words

OLD EARTH CREATIONISM FTW Posted by DJ Puchuu on 2008-10-25 20:58:53 I think Bill Nye is a pretty cool guy. eh pisses off Christfags and doesn't afraid of anything. Posted by BigMike on 2008-10-30 18:00:57 I get to listen to him lecture in Feb. Gonna be so cash. You are all crazy

Posted by jaybee on 2008-11-22 12:41:42 I'm sick of hatred, arrogance, and ignorance. Shut up, people, all of you. Just shut up. Posted by BelievingMyselfToBeSomewhatInformed on 2008-11-25 14:19:42 Wow.



I've been one to enjoy a lot of debate in my time, as an ex-christian-zeitgeist. I don't think less of anyone for their beliefs; and I always try to acquire a fair understanding of the beliefs of others. That's not to say that I won't poke my finger through if I see a hole in the fabric of one's belifes, but I'm respectful.



So, at least there are a few of us who have read (and even preached) the bible, and aren't insane neanderthals.



None of us were there, I wish there were a recording, so we could really see it; many people here are saying "No, he meant it this way!" which is foolish because none of us saw his expression, or heard his intonation, no one knows.



Personally, I respect him a lot, he garnered much of my early thirst for knowledge, which has continued to this day. Anyone who encoruages that kind of free thinking, and answer-seeking is fantastic in my book.



I don't know if he really meant something mean, or was just spicing up a speech; but he's historically shown a good, strong sense of character, so I don't think he's out gunning against anyone's faith, personally. Posted by Britain on 2008-11-30 02:03:13 They have video of his lectures on PBS in the wee hours of the morning, I've watched many of them, they seemed to be continuous and there were no uprisings nor did the crowd greatly diminish. Interesting lecture though, Bill Nye does point out the fact that all scientific advancements have been based one one fundamental theory, molecular theory, which is only a theory and not a law... title? nah

Posted by some fella on 2008-12-07 15:04:51 here is something funny: Most of the people who bring up the subject of the Bible are the very ones who dislike it.



If God doesn't exists then your disbelief is just a result of the pizza you had last night, because everything is just part of a chemical reaction, or its in your genes to dislike the idea of a God. If everything happened by chance then your very existence is pointless and you should just go sit in the corner and leave everyone else alone so they can enjoy life and make the best of it.



If God doesn't exist then nothing matters. If He does exist then everything matters.

If God doesn't exist then why further education to begin with? Life has no point then why bother?

If God doesn't exist then why get married and have kids? Our existence on this rock was an accident anyways, why further the advancement of it? If you don't believe in God then why are you so into fighting Him? why do you hate Him? why do you want to see His removal from society? why bother to voice your opinion?



Sometimes it is a misunderstanding that gets people into arguments, but a lot of the time its someone attacking someone else for their belief or lack there of. I don't attack anyone for what they think. If you want to debate then I have no objections and would take great glee in conversing with you. But to attack someone and completely shun them? that is not of God! God said that He will accept anyone who comes with a humble heart and an open mind.

That is all I got for now... have fun!!

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Posted by some fella on 2008-12-07 15:20:17 in my last post i typed "G O D B L E S S" (without the spaces) and the website replaced it with "may the Dark Lord Creator, Satan watch over" ... thats screwed up! im sorry but this site is really screwed up... anywho...

If you are brave enough to open your eyes God will show you the light. Hate?

Posted by heej on 2008-12-11 13:10:24 Who said anything about hating god. How could anyone hate someone who doesn't exist? I don't hate santa. MaxPower 20X6!!

Posted by Alabaster JagoBaumer on 2008-12-19 12:07:58 THIS IS A TEST OF FELLA'S CLAIM ABOUT THE WORD INDICATING A GOD'S BLESSING BEING CONVERTED AUTOMATICALLY INTO A DIFFERENT BLESSING.



GODBLESS

godbless

Godbless



THE TEST IS NOW OVER. RESUME YOUR NORMAL, INTERNET LIVES NOW. Nye is not too sly

Posted by Bob J on 2008-12-27 21:17:00 The response is totally expected. There was no reason to bring religion into his science lecture.

He could have just explained what makes the moon shine and leave religion out of it.

Unless Bill is a complete moron he would have to expect that type of response. If anyone knows Bill he is a bit arrogant and likes to irritate. Oh yea Bill is totally guilty of ignorance of his own.

He stated the Gulf stream is controlled by ocean currents when in fact its mostly WIND driven. He has guts to talk about topics he knows nothing about. Bill is a very sick person in real life. Posted by Anonymous on 2009-01-19 05:22:30 that's texas for you! Posted by cara on 2009-01-29 19:24:47 i hate how because of one group of people all of a sudden all texans are being lumped into one group of crazy biblethumpers. i go to school in waco at baylor and can assure you there are plently of religious fanatics and homeless crackheads, but what i hate is that all of a sudden everyone that lives in wacko is labeled as ignorant hicks! Posted by gerald on 2009-02-03 16:51:37 One wonders about the etymology of the word WACO!!!! Hmmmm

Posted by thedude89 on 2009-02-21 12:31:50 It's amusing for me to read comments that claim that faith and reason are mutually exclusive, or that people with faith are blinded from logic.



Read Justin Martyr, St. Augustine, St. Anselm, Thomas Aquinas, C.S. Lewis, or any other of the great Christian thinkers. They're not perfect, but collectively they provide a strong foundation for Christian intellectualism.



And stop assuming that Christians in general read the entire Bible literally. Christians have been reading Scriptures allegorically (and in many other senses) since before the canon was made official.



Lastly, I'm sick and tired of people dissing Waco, particularly its residents. It's not a city of crackheads and hicks. I go to school here, and I see a city in need of help and a city with much to offer. How about you figure out how to help rather than sit back and insult it. Posted by Vael Victus on 2009-02-21 16:14:11 moar liek gayco mirite xD Er, what?

Posted by baconsagat on 2009-02-23 04:14:03 "Read Justin Martyr, St. Augustine, St. Anselm, Thomas Aquinas, C.S. Lewis, or any other of the great Christian thinkers."



Aquinas and Lewis were irredeemably stupid. Sorry, but their arguments are terrible, and the idea that you would call them great is just going to make people look down on you further. What the f*ck?

Posted by morozco420 on 2009-02-26 03:28:29 Bible thumping, ignorant ass white people... Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-27 17:52:40 wow someone should take a shit in a bag and send it to that woman for being so god damn f*cking retarted Really? I mean, really?

Posted by pir8qu33n on 2009-03-05 21:21:19 I am amazed, and not in a good way, when to this day I hear people make this sort of argument. You don't need much more than your power of observation to know that lightly colored objects here on Earth reflect light. The moon itself cannot create light... This is why it disappears once a cycle... Because the light of the sun does not reach it... How needy do you have to be to feel that God's greatness needs to be fought for over something like this... The beauty of the Moon, if you choose to believe, can be proof of God's power to make everything in the universe shine in his light... And your argument, to people like me, is only proof of your stupidity... Or your need to bend people to your beliefs... Is God so powerless than He needs you to make such poor arguments?

The Moon is a beautiful mirror hovering above our heads.

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Posted by mcm on 2009-04-01 17:07:18 First Bill Nye considers himself agnostic not atheist (he is quoted as answering "You really can't know" to the God question). Second the Hebrew word for light in Genesis 1:16 is "ma'owr" which means luminous, this applies to radiating OR reflecting light. So Genesis 1:16 is factually, scientifically, and theologically correct (sorry Bill). Posted by Messenger on 2009-04-21 13:46:44 This is madness!!! THIS IS BLASPHEMY!!! Posted by Anonymous on 2009-04-23 02:42:24 everyone from texas is a retard. this is just a case in point.

the bible also says the earth is flat and the center of the universe and that the sun revolves around it.

fundies are all retarded. Atheists have orgasmed

Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-27 00:11:15 Another minor article about Bill Nye the homo guy in which atheists feel victorious and thus simultaneously reach orgasms in their parents basements. The last word

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JC re: Messenger

Posted by asshole on 2009-07-12 02:39:47 This is SPARTA!



sorry, it had to be done GOD GUNS AND NASCAR

Posted by Anonymous on 2009-08-03 03:03:09 God: electrical charges and torsion fields.

Global warming: solar cycle 24

Guns: Required to uphold religion punish the unbelievers(and secure oil interests)

Nascar: designed by morons who can't drive cars properly.



Texas is a great place.........

I just hope "god" teaches them his mistakes by means of swine flu, the planet would be lighter and have a higher IQ.

Remember christians, don't think believe. the rest of us will think.

p.s why did the vatican remove the book of enoch? Hmmm

Posted by johnny fever on 2009-08-26 00:04:33 Seems that some of the people in Waco are as retarded as those who believe that the bible is literal truth. Oh wait...they're one in the same.

It's a good book, but the Truth? Nope. But it has some good stories. good stories from the bible

Posted by johnny fever on 2009-08-26 00:11:05 I especially like the one about the really strong guy who killed thousands of people with a f*cking jawbone, then lost all of his strength when some broad cut off his mullet. Awesome! Nibal

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Posted by Malacandra on 2009-09-12 06:41:42 Who is this Marshall Law guy? Or do you mean martial law? prayerful?

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Posted by Mia on 2009-10-08 13:30:20 You need to maintain some grasp to your religion; otherwise, you won't be happy because you'll feel like a heathen for abandoning your beliefs. You were programmed to think this way. You can live life using common sense, and even believe in a God or force that holds the universe together, without believing what men with limited and outdated knowledge wrote down thousands of years ago. (Not to mention the constant revisions and varying translations.)



If you take any monotheistic religion and slightly dilute it with science, you'll get what you described. Huge flaws are apparent in all religions; there's no logical reason that yours is more right. What's to say that Christianity is the true faith?



Go a step further. You're getting there. Cailean

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Posted by Guy on 2009-12-07 16:22:03 Haha, the people of Waco have all gone wacko pcuddofn

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Posted by Anonymous on 2010-03-01 23:09:55 Another reason that the branch of my family from Texas completely dodges Waco. I shit you not, they will drive hundreds of miles out of their way to get somewhere if it means that they won't have to pass through Waco.

But personally, being from Wisconsin myself, I think that few things that are truly great have come from Texas... and most of them are musicians.

RIP "Dimebag" Darrell Lance Abbott, -the- BEST thing out of Texas in 50 years or so. Semantics

Posted by Barak on 2010-03-30 15:52:34 Technically, the moon CAN be considered a light source...it is simply not a direct light source. Posted by ITTIAA on 2010-03-31 15:02:04 It never ceases to amaze me how Christians, when faced with scientific and/or historical proof of the inaccuracy of the Bible, then claim no one takes it literally. WHAT? How dare you proclaim to be Christian and basically disregard every single word of your god! You're trying to have it both ways because you're stuck. FML

Posted by Ashamed on 2010-06-30 01:28:57 Im ashamed to be from here. I lived here all my life. I promise we arent all retarted rednecks that believe in "the holy jeebus." Some of us have seen the (non) light. Efficient and Ecological Life on Earth

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Posted by Joshua on 2010-11-29 15:50:45 Much like a handful of others that have posted, I too have read this Bible you all are fighting about. I've also read Dawkins, Freud, Jung, Joseph Campbell, and Thomas Merton. I grew up in the Baptist church, and also watched Bill Nye as a young child. All I can say is that both of these influences educated me and helped me to gain truth and perspective about life. If you want to just write off Waco as a bunch of Bible-belt crackheads, that is your choice, but the truth I see here is that the article provides very little information. If there were more details, or comments from Nye himself, we could make a clear judgment. I actually find the debate on religion and faith that has followed more interesting. It seems each side is a photo-negative of the other: the Atheist is disgusted at the blind faith of a religious man and their refusal to accept clear reason, while the ones with Religious beliefs might be willing to accept reason, but find ultimate truth in their faith. I am not sure what is so evil about either way of thinking, other than they can both lead to evil actions by humankind.

Does this mean that without religious belief that we would have less violence? Or without scientific inquiry, we would have less evil in the world? I cannot see this as being the case, therefore we should perhaps respect the beliefs of others and understand that our very existence is a miracle enough to justify a belief in god, and our individual suffering is enough to justify both our faith and denial of him. It is no one's choice but our own.



~JR Hey Jethro

Posted by Skeptic on 2010-11-29 20:44:12 Ummm so the verse doesn't state that the lesser light is not reflected. It does state that the lesser light governs the night. Which is wrong since the orbits have the moon in The night only 50% of the time. kk

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Posted by aumzy lee on 2011-04-29 11:16:22 I have seen bill speak at UTA, where he was recieved with an overwhelming welcome. Also, i feel the need to mention that nowhere in his lecture did he mention anything of religion. The people of Waco are obviously just small minded and misconstruing a lecture about science to be more than it really is. I feel deeply ashamed for my beloved state of texas, that UTA is only an hour drive from Waco but that they could be so uninformed. Bill is an awesome public speaker and has been capturing the imagination of children (including mine) for years. He never ever deserved to be booed. Your Mom

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Like what exactly, and all religions? Do you even know anything about the others like Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism and Zoroastrianism? Considering that India has the smallest prison population, I’d say Hinduism has a pretty good effect.



It’s funny because you Athiests are no different from the fundamentalists, in that: you take whatever scripture says absolutely literally and ignoring that they have been lost in translation and edited by corrupt people and the real meanings have been lost and yet to be found by scholars and archeologists, act like self-righteous jerkwads, lot’s of hypocrisy, act like there is only one religion etc, the scumbag Athiest meme sums this all up. Encyclopedia Dramatica

Posted by Jmariofan7 on 2018-08-20 21:34:57 Quote from ED: “They mock religion because they dont have anything to say. They claim to be for progress and free thinking but only talk about suppressing those who disagree with them. They are the atheists, long-dormant cancer to society in the bloom.. Atheism is a fad cult whose followers worship Richard Dawkins instead of God. It is most notably the only religion that is self-deluded enough to claim to be backed up by science. Its followers are even more ignorant, dogmatic, and fanatical about their chosen spiritual path than they claim Muslims, Christians, Hindoos or Jews to be. They use science as their excuse for said dogmatism, and, unfortunately, some of them truly believe their own bullshit in this regard. Ironically, atheism is the most fundamentalist religion known to man. Atheists are hypocritical enough to think that killing 5 billion theists equates to world peace, or, more precisely that as long as people dont agree with them humans still possess the ability to hurt each other.

However, there is a key difference. People who convert to Islam or Christianity do so because they want to have a more fulfilling life, or because they had a genuine religious experience. People who become atheists do so because they got picked on in high school. Rummage through an atheists emotional baggage and you will find a pile of leftover teenage angst, a few cases of repressed rage at mommy and daddy, and an overpowering urge to feel superior wrapped around a stupendous amount of self-loathing. Ultimately the "atheist movement" is just another Internet fad, mostly made up of attention whores, sycophants, stupid arrogant twats, bigots, assholes, and demagogues.”



https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Atheist Collapsing your own argument

Posted by Jmariofan7 on 2018-08-20 22:34:06 “I fail to understand how it is close minded to not believe in something when the only evidence for it is an ancient book that we are told was inspired by God. To make matters worse it is a book that has hundreds of different versions because many of the words that were originally written do not have a direct translation nowadays. The results are that whoever decides to translate the text makes up their own words to fit their own beliefs.”



You just answered your own question, scholars and archeologists have yet to find the true meaning some goes for the other scriptures like the Torah and the Quran and many others, and all those obnoxious pure Athiests do is take whatever mistranslated and edited text completely literally just like the fundamentalists do, and the fact that they don’t see the irony in this is really grating.



This quote and also this link to this other page brings up a pretty great idea on what the scriptures of the bible really mean: “Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars." Is misunderstood by BOTH Christians AND atheists. The verse is referring to the solid fact that the universe is composed of positive and negative energy. Sadly most people both Christian and non Christian have no understanding of this solid fact. Paul Dirac and Erwin Shroedinger both independently discovered, as did others such as Viktor Schauberger, that there is a sea of negative energy electrons that is invisible to our devices which are designed to push around positive energy electrons. This negative energy sea can be tapped for anti gravity, endless free overunity energy, and more. God was showing us this in that Genesis verse. The "night side light" has nothing to do with the Moon. Its the negative matter/negative/dark matter/dark energy sea which fills the universe: The quantum vacuum negative energy.



I propose that both Christians and Atheists put aside your differences and help us mass produce machines and devices that tap into this "night side energy". PS The "Dark" and "Negative" does NOT mean evil. It means opposite to positive or poorly understood. The word "occult" in and of itself is not bad: It simply means secret.



Go to www.cheniere.org and www.zpenergy.com for info on this negative energy.”



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