Depending on how you’ve curated your Twitter feed, you know Alexis Ohanian as one of two things: a tech figurehead and investor revered as a co-founder of Reddit, or the husband of tennis G.O.A.T. Serena Williams. But since the arrival of his two-year-old daughter, Alexis Olympia, he’s increasingly blurring the lines between the two roles, thanks to a very vocal advocacy for quality paid family leave after his experience with a 16-week paternity leave. Part of that advocacy involves challenging the cultural and social biases we bring to a father’s role in childcare and domestic life. For Ohanian, that means asking dads the same question we always ask moms: How do you balance it all? So Ohanian went out, brought together a crew of powerhouse dads across sports, business, and entertainment (from Nicholas Thompson to Chris Bosh to The Kid Mero), and asked ‘em. Today, through his venture capital firm Initialized Capital, he’s releasing those conversations as a new podcast, Business Dad.

“I wanted to talk to as broad a range of business dads, all at the top of their game but doing a variety of things,” he says of the pod. “Guys I knew professionally, we had a whole other thing to talk about that I didn't know we thought about. It unlocked this entirely different thread of conversation whenever we'd get together.”

Ohanian’s hoping to expand our ideas of how the idea of “father” and “businessman” can—and could—bleed into one another. His first guest is Hasan Minhaj, comedian and host of Patriot Act, and if you listen, you’ll realize that Ohanian’s asking loftier life questions, too: about what constitutes a good life, and how his guests think about the responsibility of caring for—and developing—a real, live human. I caught up with Ohanian about the launch of the podcast, how parenting and start-ups overlap (and don’t), why fatherhood has changed his eye for investment, and what most worries him about his daughter growing up in the age of tech.

But first we talked about Game of Thrones.

One thing you mention on the podcast’s first episode is that you now understand Game of Thrones better, because you feel like if your house is secure, then everything else will secure itself. How did you come to that realization?

Well, what I meant is [becoming a dad] really crystallized why I do the work that I do. It's to provide for this legacy, for my family. It really helped me understand the lengths that people will go to defend the legacy that is their family. I'm not advocating for violence here. A lot of awful stuff went down in the name of family [in that show], but it made me be able to empathize a lot more.

I know that there are going to be trade offs that I'll have to make. The conversation with Hasan was so interesting because he's really popped off in the last couple of years now, at the same time he’s become a father. Having to weigh those responsibilities of dramatic career growth along with the responsibility of being a newfound dad—that's real. That's hard. He carves out time with his daughter every morning. That's something that his wife suggested super early and that he was receptive to—and is now grateful for—because he's got long nights, rewriting jokes for hours, especially doing a comedy show. He knows that morning window is sacred. He's built a wall around it. He's making that investment in fatherhood. That is a classic example of taking a short term “cost” for what is going to be a much bigger long-term investment on his productivity and his career.