"I really don't like how xiao8 retired. Like when you're the best I think you play a little bit more, like go for a 2nd TI."

C9.EternaLEnVy at WEC

I saw you have 7k mmr, what the hell? You have been laddering here? What's different between China and NA server?

At home I have to, at the very beginning of the game, I have to make sure everyone is calm cause everyone calls their lanes and randoms and does stupid shit and picks stupid heroes and yells each other. That happens probably in 70% of the games. And then every game I have to pause, so that my teammates know how to cast their spells properly. Cause they don't like follow up or they go afk or something. In China, I don't need to say anything. I don't use voice, I say nothing and I win more.

So you like pubbing in china?

Yeah, way more.

And you say something at the beginning of the game. What do you say?

I always ask for mid and I tell my teammates not to pick techies. I tell them to pick Doom and sometimes I tell them I'm one game away from a certain mmr even though I'm lying. Like let's say I'm 6.9, I'll tell my teammates I'm 1 game away from 7k, please try your best. So I want to win.

So you say: Don't believe in yourself, believe in me?

Yeah, I only say that later on! Like when everyone can't decide what they have to do, I'll just say: "believe in me, don't believe in yourselves, whatever I say just fucking do it. If you wan't to do anything, don't do it because it's probably wrong."

Hahahahahah

Well you can only say that sometimes, like when your teammates respect cause you're owning and when none of them are pro players.

Ok. You went to Japan recently. How was that?

It was pretty good. It wasn't that good to the middle but it was pretty interesting. Especially Comiket, have you heard of that?

Yeah, I wen—it's that festival...

You went?

No, I didn't go! I heard you and Lumi talk about...

Yeah, I woke up at about 4 and I got there by 6 and I was already behind 10,000 people. Even though the first train leaves at 5. Like people are running for the trains. And you should run with them because they usually have it timed... Because Japanese trains always come exactly on time so if you see someone running you're going to miss the train and you go with them so you always just run with them.

So what did you do there, other than go to a convention?

I went to Akihabara a lot, like a lot. Too much actually.

You went to what?

Akihabara, it's like this anime city thing. It's like anime everywhere, many many blocks.

Did you get recognized by anyone?

Ugh, yes. I got recognized by a lot of foreigners that went to Japan. We had a fan meet and a lot of Japanese fans came. And one of them was extremely big fan, he gave me a lot of stuff.

How long were you in Japan for?

2 weeks.

And that was a good vacation, are you back to Dota now?

Yep, it sucked that I was sick when I came back. That really ruined everything.

Now you guys got a new teammate, what's different about FATA- and SingSing?

He talks more, takes more responsibility for the flow of the game. He'll decide something for himself or for something he doesn't like he'll say no and say it's fucking stupid. I dunno, like he understands the flow of the game more, like how his hero impacts the game more, so makes more calls. But I think the official games he's been in he's under-performed. He has some really shitty settings actually, so after this tournament his potential as a player to grow is exponentially. He has shake screen on, like what is he doing? He has like minimap delay, so you can't click on the minimap for 0.2s. Valve hasn't implemented for everyone, so if you don't use config you can't change. Like in StarCraft you can click on the minimap instantly, but here you can't.

Are there are hard feelings between you & SingSing, or is just like "okay we have different teams now."?

I mean obviously there has to be some, otherwise you wouldn't like...But normally no. I mean we knew it was going to happen during TI4, before the end where we lost.

What do you think about all the new western teams?

We already beat Secret Team in scrims. I actually think they suck but apparently they own everyone else. They do decently well with everyone else. Obviously they're not as good as people say they are just based on the star power. You'd think they would dominate everyone but none of them are used to their roles. Everyone switched roles except Puppey, like even Kuroky is half support half carry. They don't really understand their roles and I don't know how much time they'll need to adjust to that. Hopefully for them they don't lose too much. If you lose too much, even though you need time to adjust, you can't because you're already too negative.

What about Tinker?

I think they're really good actually. I think Bulba tries really hard. Everyday he watches lots of replays and he actually literally watches replays. Like for me I just look at picks and that's it. You don't really have that much time to watch the actual replay but he does. He doesn't play that much pubs though. But yeah, he tries really hard and I really respect that. I think FNG is like that as well, and I respect him as well.

Do you think new Na`Vi is better than old Na`Vi?

It's hard to say. Na`Vi did get top 8 at TI but that's not good for Na`Vi, but that's still pretty good considering how they were doing before TI.

What do you think about the new Chinese teams?

VG is really strong. I think iceiceice is one of the best offlaners. But now that rOtk's gone, they really need to get their draft right.

What about all the retirements?

I really don't like how xiao8 retired. Like when you're the best I think you play a little bit more, like go for a 2nd TI.

You want to beat him?

Yeah, exactly. You want to look forward to playing against Newbee. Like if we beat Newbee in this tournament, people are going to blame Rabbit or something. It's not going to be as fun, you just win and leave. It's like as kids you play a game but you don't tell them how many rounds it is, and after you win you just leave.

Yeah yeah yeah, I retire as champion.

Exactly.

What do you think about this tournament thus far?

I can't say it's well ran, the people don't seem to know what they're doing. But they try so hard. So far it's been my favorite Chinese tournament. There's been no attitude when you ask for anything. You don't feel pressured or annoyed to ask them anything even though their translator doesn't speak very good English so it gets very frustrating because they're trying.

So you guys are in the winners final against Vici. You going to win this one? This is going to come out after the results anyway.

I was super confident but...there's two play rooms and you can walk around to both or switch around if you want. And I didn't see any Vici people in the room so I was doing some picks and writing stuff down, and iceiceice was standing right behind me and he looked at all my cheese strats for the entire thing, I dunno.

Are you gonna cheese them?

I dunno? I got really stressed out though.

You can next level him.

Oh my god. I actually got so fucking stressed out after he saw my picks. Like me and bone both came to practice, and my team didn't show up till 12:40 and my game was supposed to, and they were like pressuring "where's your team? where's your team? our game is starting soon." I got so stressed out that I sat on the floor listening to trance songs to calm me down, but now i'm pretty confident.

You guys have a pretty crazy schedule coming up, you guys are gonna be back in China pretty soon and then ESL One and all that stuff. What do you think about all this travelling after TI? Don't you think you need a break?

I think Dota tournaments are really poorly ran and really bad for players. I'm actually going to write something about that when I get back. Like a lot of complaints like how they steal money from players.

Steal money from players? How?

They just don't pay out, or they pay it out to the organisation who don't pay it out to their own players. Stuff like that. They pay so late, like months later. Like I haven't been paid out by any organisation yet other TI. I haven't been paid by Starladder or D2CL.

That's on the organisations though not on tournaments.

Yeah Cloud 9 is fine. All these things are secret, no one talks about these things. Because every organisation is shady, if you complain about that organisation, they might not pay you so you're worried about that. So they just keep their mouth shut. It's like some mafia stuff, you can't tell the police otherwise you get fucked.

Alright you gotta prepare for this so we'll let you go. you got any shoutouts or callouts?

Shoutout to Hyper X, Logitech, Airforce Reserve, Alienware, Need For Seats, Kevin Yee, I'm Dying, Tauren Chieftain and Thrush.

HotBid once again sat down with EternaLEnVy to talk about his recent trip to Japan and what he thinks of all the traveling he has to do in the next few months. And how much he loves pubbing.