Ctone23 Profile Blog Joined December 2012 United States 1819 Posts Last Edited: 2016-02-02 21:46:31 #1

Super Test Tuesday

Prepare yourselves, we are testing a SC2 broadcast with NO PRODUCTION TAB!!





When and Where?



Tuesday, Feb 02 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)







English Stream - Twitch



Non-English Streams TBA



Replay pack provided by SC2ReplayStats



Youtube VOD's







The Players & Format





Bly , Neeb, HuK, and Kelazhur





4 Players, Winner/loser bracket, Double Elimination. Bracket info Super Test Tuesday



Best of 3 series for all matches except Grand Finals



Grand Finals is Best of 7 winner-take-all, there are no second chances if you go undefeated to make it to the finals, only to lose the best of 7.

2016 is upon us in full force! We'll be testing our year long format with this event. More details on our yearly plans will be announced VERY SOON!! This event will have a total prize pool of $300!





What do you mean by TEST?



Last weekend during the 2016 DreamHack Open: Leipzig I noticed community members on Twitter discussing the amount of information broadcasted during a StarCraft match.





suggestions and feedback are most welcome, good and bad! Also, yes, we realize twitch chat will not be happy with us, we can handle the rage! We would rather try than do nothing!



No Production Tab



Toggling on/off Upgrades throughout matches



Showing Army Value and/or Resources lost

We would like to reach a happy middle-ground approach on this. We don't want to broadcast a completely blank screen with no information whatsoever, but we also want to build up the hype and have our casters engaging in discussion rather than being able to guess the outcome with all of information at their fingertips. Please keep in mind this is only a test and does not mean that all future events will be produced this way. Clearly there isn't a consensus, but the time is now to experiment with production techniques, with Legacy of the Void still fresh and new. Below are some of the things we will be doing,Also, yes, we realize twitch chat will not be happy with us, we can handle the rage! We would rather try than do nothing!We would like to reach a happy middle-ground approach on this. We don't want to broadcast a completely blank screen with no information whatsoever, but we also want to build up the hype and have our casters engaging in discussion rather than being able to guess the outcome with all of information at their fingertips.







Production





NexusRecall & FalconPaladin





NexusRecall and FalconPaladin! BobbyAwesome and FalconPaladin return to cast the event, while Elementfini handles the logistics as well as our in game observer. Big thank you to them! Without them, GauntletSC2 doesn't exist.



You can find more information on BobbyAwesome and Elementfini by checking out their website



https://twitter.com/NexusRecall

https://twitter.com/EleMenTfiNi



For all things FalconPaladin please check out his YouTube channel, with daily uploads of top LotV games. You can find his channel



https://twitter.com/FalconPaladin Production on the main stream is brought to you byand! BobbyAwesome and FalconPaladin return to cast the event, while Elementfini handles the logistics as well as our in game observer. Big thank you to them! Without them, GauntletSC2 doesn't exist.You can find more information onandby checking out their website www.nexusrecall.com , they do a lot of custom made content catered towards the SC2 community, definitely check them out!For all things FalconPaladin please check out his YouTube channel, with daily uploads of top LotV games. You can find his channel here .





Prize Pool-USD

1st - $200



2nd - $100





Good luck to all of the players!! Good luck to all of the players!! Gauntlet Esports

Topher_Doll Profile Joined August 2015 United States 76 Posts #2 I think tests like this are important. While I am a big fan of more data, not less, it's hard to say how it will work until we test it out so thanks Ctone for being willing to do this. I'm a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

imre Profile Blog Joined November 2011 France 9125 Posts #3 Really nice to try this, it'll be important for the casters to be able to tell the story of the match instead of just commentating on the information shown on screen. Zest fanboy.

KiF1rE Profile Blog Joined November 2009 United States 964 Posts Last Edited: 2016-01-30 16:18:30 #4 Well to be honest, all I think this will do is allow casters to tell better stories that are in line with what they are saying, regardless of how wrong they are,lack of in game knowledge or how kept up they are on the meta. But overall will make the games unwatchable for high level players. Now I know Huk made a point of just watching the replays. But most tournaments that I feel that will experiment with this if it does take off, wont even bother releasing replays. Most notably korean tournaments like GSL/SSL that have historically not released replays, making Huks argument of high level players should just watch the replays pretty much invalid. Since they wont be available. Which hurts the high level scene since being able to study the games to their full potential allows for improvement.



It's bad enough that these same tournaments dont allow players to showcase their micro and remove that element from battles by not showing health bars, unless the observer selects it and proceeds to not show everything since the observer is either choosing to barely show anything or is just awful at it.



Honestly, I've always preferred to have the most information available, that way I can follow the game myself. Without having to listen to someone that is misinformed about what is actually going on tell a story of what isnt actually happening. Which to me is just an illusion filled with lies, why would we need to be blinded by illusions to enjoy a game?



Do appreciate your going to try it with a tournament though. Will see how this pans out.

Ctone23 Profile Blog Joined December 2012 United States 1819 Posts #5 On January 31 2016 00:57 sAsImre wrote:

Really nice to try this, it'll be important for the casters to be able to tell the story of the match instead of just commentating on the information shown on screen.

Completely agree. We would love to hear any feedback or criticisms you have, if you get a chance to watch!

Completely agree. We would love to hear any feedback or criticisms you have, if you get a chance to watch! On January 31 2016 00:53 Topher_Doll wrote:

I think tests like this are important. While I am a big fan of more data, not less, it's hard to say how it will work until we test it out so thanks Ctone for being willing to do this.

I think a lot of people will feel this way, we hope we can present the data in way that's still informative. For example, the casters will still be able to toggle stats on their computers, but it will be up to them how they present the data that aligns with the flow of the cast/game. I think a lot of people will feel this way, wewe can present the data in way that's still informative. For example, the casters will still be able to toggle stats on their computers, but it will be up to them how they present the data that aligns with the flow of the cast/game. Gauntlet Esports

ShoCkeyy Profile Blog Joined July 2008 7063 Posts #6 In BW no production tab was available, everything was an element of surprise. Life?

EleMenTfiNi Profile Joined January 2015 Canada 107 Posts #7 Surprise is the fiNal EleMenT of a good show, should be awesome Don't complain about things you're not willing to change.

Ctone23 Profile Blog Joined December 2012 United States 1819 Posts Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:51:22 #8 UPDATE: FalconPaladin had something come up and will be unable to cast tomorrow's test event.



In his stead will be our trusted observer and all things production, EleMenTfiNi. FalconPaladin will be working with us in our 2016 events so he will return, this test event was a bit short notice. In his stead will be our trusted observer and all things production, EleMenTfiNi. FalconPaladin will be working with us in our 2016 events so he will return, this test event was a bit short notice. Gauntlet Esports

Ctone23 Profile Blog Joined December 2012 United States 1819 Posts #9 Live in just under 15 minutes!



We'll be uploading all of the matches separately to YouTube (also available via twitch) that will list all of the observer techniques tested for that particular series. We'll be trying out a few different things today, looking forward to it! Gauntlet Esports

FXOTheoRy Profile Blog Joined July 2008 United States 514 Posts #10 test feedback:



Pros: The surprise factor is neat from a spectator standpoint. Also it somewhat hides the competitors builds so their future opponents cannot have complete information on their timings



Cons: Players will like the production tab so that they can learn how to do cool builds.



As a frequent player I like to see the production tabs but with or without is cool in its own way. oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy

fezvez Profile Blog Joined January 2011 France 2903 Posts Last Edited: 2016-02-02 22:59:15 #11 HuK thinks he is $o$ (2 gold before natural for the moment)



Edit : how did he lose this?

Bupi00 Profile Joined February 2016 3 Posts #12 This non-production tab, non supply overlay sucks. this is a waste of time. bye

DreamOen Profile Joined March 2010 Spain 1389 Posts #13 I think , it has some interesting parts, but the casteers need to be top notch, it was used in broodwar with exProgamers and super good casters. On the other side, maybe its too late for us as spectators to adapt to that anyays. It is a nice try still. Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP

0(o.O)0 Profile Joined January 2006 Brazil 2 Posts #14 It's not that good without those informations. TiTo

Nisticism Profile Joined May 2015 41 Posts #15 Feedback.



Cons: Broadcasters should always be switching between tabs to entertain the audiance anyway. The amount of information is not important, only the type of information.



Production and supply are the two most important. NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~

Emerica Profile Joined November 2015 1 Post #16 Don't mind no production tab, but supply is pretty important. I personally find it useful in multiple scenario's:

- Helps me catch up to the status of the game if I have not been giving 100% of my attention

- It is handy if I am watching the broadcast to learn new styles of play. Casters are not always 100% on point (entertaining tangents, etc).



In fact I think having more info on screen gives the casters more flexibility with how they want to cast because the hardcore types will still have numbers to crunch.

Clagus Profile Joined April 2013 4 Posts #17 army value > army supply

I wonder why isn't it used more...

coolprogrammingstuff Profile Joined December 2015 906 Posts #18 On February 03 2016 09:27 Emerica wrote:

Don't mind no production tab, but supply is pretty important. I personally find it useful in multiple scenario's:

- Helps me catch up to the status of the game if I have not been giving 100% of my attention

- It is handy if I am watching the broadcast to learn new styles of play. Casters are not always 100% on point (entertaining tangents, etc).



In fact I think having more info on screen gives the casters more flexibility with how they want to cast because the hardcore types will still have numbers to crunch.



Agreed. Prefer production, but no supply is what really rustles me. Agreed. Prefer production, but no supply is what really rustles me.

Venser Profile Joined April 2012 Croatia 225 Posts #19 I hate it. I don't see how lack of info makes game any more interesting and casters have no clue what's going on which makes whole stream looks silly.

Shellshock Profile Blog Joined March 2011 United States 95642 Posts #20 wait did kelazhur beat neeb as zerg or is liquipedia just mistaken? Moderator http://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png

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