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How can a Hybrid be a Natural Born Citizen?

Google books ^ | 1833 | Alexander Adams

Posted on by bushpilot1

In the book Roman antiquities: or, An account of the manners and customs of the Romans By Alexander Adam it describes the children of a Roman citizen and a foreigner as a Hybrid.

Obama cannot possibly be a natural born citizen.

The Founders wanted a republic based on Roman and Greek Law.



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Gaius tells us if a Roman citizen (woman) marries a foreigner..the child is "CLEARLY" a foreigner. Gaius states the children of Roman citizens (two citizen parents) are Roman citizens. The USSC has refered to Gaius in several cases. Vattel, quoted Roman Law in the Law of Nations (1758) chapter XIX. Vattel does not quote English Common Law. A subject in England was the same as property to the King. Vattel wrote a republican form of government can break away from the rule of a King. When Franklin and the Founders read this they printed pamphlets quoting Vattel. The pamphlets were distributed among the Colonists. Vattel gave the Founders the idea of revolution..and he gave them the guidance..what a President should be..born to two citizen parents. Not a Hybrid.



To: bushpilot1

To: bushpilot1

oh good god



To: bushpilot1

Guess that makes my kids foriegners. Too bad, they are fixin to become great conservatives. I suppose I should advise them otherwise, based on this insane criteria. /s/



To: bushpilot1

“The Founders wanted a republic based on Roman and Greek Law.” Umm....no. If they had, they should have put it into the Constitution. Instead, they used a term which was the Americanized version of an English legal term.



To: bushpilot1

You cite, “The children of a Roman citizen, whether man or woman, and a foreigner, were accounted spurious, and their condition little better than that of slaves.” So - you think the Founders wanted my adopted children to be little better than slaves? Or our daughter by birth to be a slave? Have you no shame?



To: Mr Rogers

So now we get to the root of the matter with you, Mr. Rogers. It’s personal. The citing of citizenship requirements from the Roman Republic is no more and no less offensive than your constant harping on laws pertaining to feudal serfdom and insisting that this is identical to and the source of the citizenship established by our Founders.



To: bushpilot1

“The Founders wanted a republic based on Roman and Greek Law.” If that were the case, we would have plenty of well fed lions.



To: bushpilot1

How do you know Obama is a “hybrid”? What if BHO Sr. is not his father? What happens if no father is listed on his original birth certificate?



To: RegulatorCountry

Nope. None of my kids have any business running for President, and two were born in the Philippines. The problem is that the FOUNDER’S didn’t use Roman law in the Constitution. They COULD have, but they didn’t. Instead, they said “natural born citizen”, which is reasonably the Americanized version of “natural born subject”. That was a legal term with a defined meaning, and no, it did NOT require two citizen parents. Original intent. What is written, not what you want to substitute for it. And no, the Founders didn’t want my kids to be slaves.



To: Padams

Excellent point...He may be an NBC, then he has been lying to us for years about his dual citizenship. We just can’t get access because our judicial idiots won’t grant discovery.



To: Mr Rogers

And the original intent, is just like the 9th circuit, you don’t have to even be a citizen to vote. It is amazing the depth of intellect of our judicial overlords. Black is clearly white and white is clearly black if you have a string of degrees.



To: bushpilot1





To: Mr Rogers

Of course natural born subject didn’t require two citizen parents. They were all subjects, serfs basically, in lifelong thrall to a monarch, owned really and couldn’t throw it off. That is not in any way, shape or form the nature of our relationship to our government under our Constitutional Republic. Cite the veddy, veddy British Sir William Blackstone’s ponderous tome on feudalism all you want, it doesn’t change the nature of our Republic. What, do you think republics were a common form of governance at the time of our Founding? Where do you think the Founders found their inspiration, to create a republic? Oh, that’s right. You think they were inspired to found a republic by the monarchy they’d just fought a revolution to separate themselves from.



To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Original intent does NOT allow non-citizens to vote. This is not a 9th Circuit idea. It is a reasoned opinion, followed for 110 years. You don’t have to agree, but the reasoning is IAW discovering the original intent of the Founders, based on the legal terms they used.



To: RegulatorCountry

“They were all subjects, serfs basically, in lifelong thrall to a monarch, owned really and couldnt throw it off.” No, we are NOT under common law - but common law provided the legal language with which the Constitution was written. If you don’t understand the difference, you shouldn’t comment on legal matters.



To: Mr Rogers

It’s not all that different from the slave status under the Roman Republic that had you in such high dudgeon a few minutes ago, Mr. Rogers. You find the one outrageous as an influence, and the other quite compelling. Strange.



To: RegulatorCountry

Where do you think the Founders found their inspiration, to create a republic?



Rome?



To: Greenpees

Guess that makes my kids foriegners. you beat me to posting this...my kids are also republicans.



by 19 posted onby LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)

To: bushpilot1

This looks suspiciously like a parody.



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