"I don't remember it vividly, uh, but from, I guess, what he mentioned it was about his depression. And one in which I didn't know he was depressed. You know, I knew he spent some time away before we got together at training camp, where he missed a few weeks of training camp, if I do recall. But he explained that he had a lot on his mind, or, you know, I don't remember it vividly. We knew that Shawn had some things going on in his life."