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Full MemberActivity: 196Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 05, 2014, 04:43:13 AM #28622 Quote from: angryacorn on May 05, 2014, 03:49:49 AM even if i did bash a few BC members during the wc/bc fud attacks! my apologies. anyways looks like i got a lot of reading todo :/ haha

f@ck WC and that slimey leader calling the shots! im increasing my stake in BC like I should have at the start! anyways Hope i find a home hereeven if i did bash a few BC members during the wc/bc fud attacks! my apologies. anyways looks like i got a lot of reading todo :/ haha

All good my friend, past events are just that. Let's put aside whatever spite we have, and create an ongoing community with continual progress in project development and creation



Help out or contribute towards discussions and project planning



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http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/



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here:

http://blackcointalk.com/index.php/board,5.0.html



you are very most welcome to create your own thread to discuss your own projects or ideas



Welcome to the community All good my friend, past events are just that. Let's put aside whatever spite we have, and create an ongoing community with continual progress in project development and creationHelp out or contribute towards discussions and project planninghere:andhere:you are very most welcome to create your own thread to discuss your own projects or ideasWelcome to the community

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Full MemberActivity: 210Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 05, 2014, 05:27:51 AM #28625 Quote from: Soepkip on May 03, 2014, 01:05:45 AM Hello BlackCoin Community







BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!



For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.



BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD .



The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:



1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.

2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!



Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).



The Plan



The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.



Thanks and please donate today!

BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q

BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV

LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR

Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1

Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!



Paypal: Donate with Paypal



Be the change you want to see in the world. As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to changeFor several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.BlackCoinBitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a(with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community!The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3QBTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQVLTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvRDoge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1

Quote from: IconicExpert on April 30, 2014, 04:28:16 PM



BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street



This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.



I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!



So what is the big idea?



We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.



Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.



1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.



2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.



3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.



4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished, everything is in place for the main event.



What will the main event accomplish?



This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.



a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!



b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.



c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.



What is needed to make this a success?



Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)

50 Girls for 2 hours

50 T-Shirts

Water For Girls

1000 Cards + Retail Packaging

1000 Sell Sheets

Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc



Total budget: $9540

Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.





Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.



Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!



This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream . We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.



To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.



Below is the donation addresses (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.





Donation addresses:



BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP

BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4

LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ

DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT



I want to thank everyone who has contributed and every donation helps!!!





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Full MemberActivity: 196Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 05, 2014, 05:49:02 AM #28627 Quote from: Degolep on May 05, 2014, 05:27:51 AM Quote from: Soepkip on May 03, 2014, 01:05:45 AM Hello BlackCoin Community







BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!



For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.



BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD .



The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:



1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.

2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!



Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).



The Plan



The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.



Thanks and please donate today!

BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q

BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV

LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR

Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1

Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!



Paypal: Donate with Paypal



Be the change you want to see in the world. As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to changeFor several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.BlackCoinBitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a(with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community!The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3QBTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQVLTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvRDoge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1

Quote from: IconicExpert on April 30, 2014, 04:28:16 PM



BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street



This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.



I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!



So what is the big idea?



We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.



Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.



1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.



2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.



3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.



4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished, everything is in place for the main event.



What will the main event accomplish?



This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.



a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!



b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.



c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.



What is needed to make this a success?



Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)

50 Girls for 2 hours

50 T-Shirts

Water For Girls

1000 Cards + Retail Packaging

1000 Sell Sheets

Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc



Total budget: $9540

Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.





Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.



Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!



This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream . We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.



To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.



Below is the donation addresses (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.





Donation addresses:



BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP

BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4

LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ

DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT



I want to thank everyone who has contributed and every donation helps!!!





Hey mate, there are more than just 2 of these projects set up in reddit and blackcointalk and more being discussed everyday! Join the brainstorming and activity



here

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/



and



here

http://blackcointalk.com/index.php Hey mate, there are more than just 2 of these projects set up in reddit and blackcointalk and more being discussed everyday! Join the brainstorming and activityhereandhere

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LegendaryActivity: 1162Merit: 1000 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 05, 2014, 05:56:42 AM #28628 Quote from: morituri13 on May 05, 2014, 12:17:57 AM Quote from: barabbas on May 04, 2014, 09:39:55 PM

The conflict of interest is that, you (and the others) being board members of the proposed "Foundation" and therefore privy to inside information of all kinds, would of course have a serious conflict of interest since you are invested in the coin and could (would) act on that information to either buy or sell the coins with an unfair advantage. I am pretty sure you are aware of the laws that prevent such things to happen -or are designed to- in the real world, so surely you also see that inevitable conflict of interests, don't you?



Thanks in advance for addressing the matter.



It's possible. I can't discredit the notion. But the foundation itself started as a group of investors who pledged to each other that they would hold and build a better coin. It's sort of like going to reddit.com/r/bitcoin and calling it inside information. It's really just a bunch of excited people trying to promote an idea.. The only inside information we have is that we are trying really hard to make our holdings worth more.



That's about the only way I could address that. I mean if you think it out there aren't that many examples of things we could take advantage of. Unless we were actively trying to pump and dump the coin and manipulate prices, but if this was another pump and dump group we certainly wouldn't be paying for a PR firm, or addressing community concerns... I can't convince you to trust us, only our actions can..



I hope this helps.

It's possible. I can't discredit the notion. But the foundation itself started as a group of investors who pledged to each other that they would hold and build a better coin. It's sort of like going to reddit.com/r/bitcoin and calling it inside information. It's really just a bunch of excited people trying to promote an idea.. The only inside information we have is that we are trying really hard to make our holdings worth more.That's about the only way I could address that. I mean if you think it out there aren't that many examples of things we could take advantage of. Unless we were actively trying to pump and dump the coin and manipulate prices, but if this was another pump and dump group we certainly wouldn't be paying for a PR firm, or addressing community concerns... I can't convince you to trust us, only our actions can..I hope this helps.

I though we were trying to be clear and honest. And nice. No, sorry the analogy is very poor. I have gone some lengths to explain to you what an insider is and what are the legal limitations imposed on them. I will further point out the really stern discipline measures the SEC -and even the FBI- dispenses to those who violate those laws. This is a coin worth $0.13 but, in the future we all hope it will be worth much more. But even right now, you already are in possession of privileged information that only that group knows about- i.e. the name of the PR Company-, that could mean an important push of the coin's price when made public, so why wouldn't you, your friends and families, as well as those of the rest of your group, buy cheap and dump what you bought, at or near the top of the range once the news hit the street? There are no laws in crypto that would punish such actions so, why wouldn't you and or your co-foundation buddies do it? Today, for instance, I have read Arigard brag about his trading on IRC, so I imagine he is quite the active trader and maybe in sizable amounts. He is also in this foundation of yours, isn't he?



It isn't a matter of trust, unfortunately. Not even a matter of trust... but verify. It is, in fact, a matter of there not being a need at all for a controlling foundation and one being rammed down every investor's throat, which is quite a different matter. Nobody, but those 15-20, will benefit from the existence of the foundation (if you guys want some actions, you could just the same present them and even sponsor them is you feel strongly enough about them... including the notion of the PR firm hiring). So, once again, why a foundation for a coin that is doing very well indeed without one and that is only 2 months old.



Lets forget about being disingenuous, shall we? This is clearly a political land grab to ensure the control and centralization of BlackCoin. Nothing else.



And very well could prove to be it's undoing. I though we were trying to be clear and honest. And nice. No, sorry the analogy is very poor. I have gone some lengths to explain to you what an insider is and what are the legal limitations imposed on them. I will further point out the really stern discipline measures the SEC -and even the FBI- dispenses to those who violate those laws. This is a coin worth $0.13 but, in the future we all hope it will be worth much more. But even right now, you already are in possession of privileged information that only that group knows about- i.e. the name of the PR Company-, that could mean an important push of the coin's price when made public, so why wouldn't you, your friends and families, as well as those of the rest of your group, buy cheap and dump what you bought, at or near the top of the range once the news hit the street? There are no laws in crypto that would punish such actions so, why wouldn't you and or your co-foundation buddies do it? Today, for instance, I have read Arigard brag about his trading on IRC, so I imagine he is quite the active trader and maybe in sizable amounts. He is also in this foundation of yours, isn't he?It isn't a matter of trust, unfortunately. Not even a matter of trust... but verify. It is, in fact, a matter of there not being a need at all for a controlling foundation and one being rammed down every investor's throat, which is quite a different matter. Nobody, but those 15-20, will benefit from the existence of the foundation (if you guys want some actions, you could just the same present them and even sponsor them is you feel strongly enough about them... including the notion of the PR firm hiring). So, once again, why a foundation for a coin that is doing very well indeed without one and that is only 2 months old.Lets forget about being disingenuous, shall we? This is clearly a political land grab to ensure the control and centralization of BlackCoin. Nothing else.And very well could prove to be it's undoing.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 322Merit: 250 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 05, 2014, 07:13:39 AM #28629 Quote from: barabbas on May 05, 2014, 05:56:42 AM Quote from: morituri13 on May 05, 2014, 12:17:57 AM Quote from: barabbas on May 04, 2014, 09:39:55 PM

The conflict of interest is that, you (and the others) being board members of the proposed "Foundation" and therefore privy to inside information of all kinds, would of course have a serious conflict of interest since you are invested in the coin and could (would) act on that information to either buy or sell the coins with an unfair advantage. I am pretty sure you are aware of the laws that prevent such things to happen -or are designed to- in the real world, so surely you also see that inevitable conflict of interests, don't you?



Thanks in advance for addressing the matter.



It's possible. I can't discredit the notion. But the foundation itself started as a group of investors who pledged to each other that they would hold and build a better coin. It's sort of like going to reddit.com/r/bitcoin and calling it inside information. It's really just a bunch of excited people trying to promote an idea.. The only inside information we have is that we are trying really hard to make our holdings worth more.



That's about the only way I could address that. I mean if you think it out there aren't that many examples of things we could take advantage of. Unless we were actively trying to pump and dump the coin and manipulate prices, but if this was another pump and dump group we certainly wouldn't be paying for a PR firm, or addressing community concerns... I can't convince you to trust us, only our actions can..



I hope this helps.

It's possible. I can't discredit the notion. But the foundation itself started as a group of investors who pledged to each other that they would hold and build a better coin. It's sort of like going to reddit.com/r/bitcoin and calling it inside information. It's really just a bunch of excited people trying to promote an idea.. The only inside information we have is that we are trying really hard to make our holdings worth more.That's about the only way I could address that. I mean if you think it out there aren't that many examples of things we could take advantage of. Unless we were actively trying to pump and dump the coin and manipulate prices, but if this was another pump and dump group we certainly wouldn't be paying for a PR firm, or addressing community concerns... I can't convince you to trust us, only our actions can..I hope this helps.

I though we were trying to be clear and honest. And nice. No, sorry the analogy is very poor. I have gone some lengths to explain to you what an insider is and what are the legal limitations imposed on them. I will further point out the really stern discipline measures the SEC -and even the FBI- dispenses to those who violate those laws. This is a coin worth $0.13 but, in the future we all hope it will be worth much more. But even right now, you already are in possession of privileged information that only that group knows about- i.e. the name of the PR Company-, that could mean an important push of the coin's price when made public, so why wouldn't you, your friends and families, as well as those of the rest of your group, buy cheap and dump what you bought, at or near the top of the range once the news hit the street? There are no laws in crypto that would punish such actions so, why wouldn't you and or your co-foundation buddies do it? Today, for instance, I have read Arigard brag about his trading on IRC, so I imagine he is quite the active trader and maybe in sizable amounts. He is also in this foundation of yours, isn't he?



It isn't a matter of trust, unfortunately. Not even a matter of trust... but verify. It is, in fact, a matter of there not being a need at all for a controlling foundation and one being rammed down every investor's throat, which is quite a different matter. Nobody, but those 15-20, will benefit from the existence of the foundation (if you guys want some actions, you could just the same present them and even sponsor them is you feel strongly enough about them... including the notion of the PR firm hiring). So, once again, why a foundation for a coin that is doing very well indeed without one and that is only 2 months old.



Lets forget about being disingenuous, shall we? This is clearly a political land grab to ensure the control and centralization of BlackCoin. Nothing else.



And very well could prove to be it's undoing.

I though we were trying to be clear and honest. And nice. No, sorry the analogy is very poor. I have gone some lengths to explain to you what an insider is and what are the legal limitations imposed on them. I will further point out the really stern discipline measures the SEC -and even the FBI- dispenses to those who violate those laws. This is a coin worth $0.13 but, in the future we all hope it will be worth much more. But even right now, you already are in possession of privileged information that only that group knows about- i.e. the name of the PR Company-, that could mean an important push of the coin's price when made public, so why wouldn't you, your friends and families, as well as those of the rest of your group, buy cheap and dump what you bought, at or near the top of the range once the news hit the street? There are no laws in crypto that would punish such actions so, why wouldn't you and or your co-foundation buddies do it? Today, for instance, I have read Arigard brag about his trading on IRC, so I imagine he is quite the active trader and maybe in sizable amounts. He is also in this foundation of yours, isn't he?It isn't a matter of trust, unfortunately. Not even a matter of trust... but verify. It is, in fact, a matter of there not being a need at all for a controlling foundation and one being rammed down every investor's throat, which is quite a different matter. Nobody, but those 15-20, will benefit from the existence of the foundation (if you guys want some actions, you could just the same present them and even sponsor them is you feel strongly enough about them... including the notion of the PR firm hiring). So, once again, why a foundation for a coin that is doing very well indeed without one and that is only 2 months old.Lets forget about being disingenuous, shall we? This is clearly a political land grab to ensure the control and centralization of BlackCoin. Nothing else.And very well could prove to be it's undoing.



Hmm, barabbas,

can you tell me 10 Altcoins with the transparency you're mentioning here?



TBH, I don't think Crypto is already mature enough for that all you want, at least the altcoin scene isn't.



Lets hope it will become that mature to get accepted by everyone, but for now I think there is a long way to go.

Hmm, barabbas,can you tell me 10 Altcoins with the transparency you're mentioning here?TBH, I don't think Crypto is already mature enough for that all you want, at least the altcoin scene isn't.Lets hope it will become that mature to get accepted by everyone, but for now I think there is a long way to go. NEM/XEM!!!

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Full MemberActivity: 238Merit: 100 Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO May 05, 2014, 07:22:47 AM #28630 There is no such thing as absolute central control of Blackcoin. By its very definition it is a peer to peer, proof of stake, cryptocurrency. If enough people wanted to go in a different direction they could take control of the code and call for a hard fork. If they get a majority of the stake coins they would control the coin. There is nothing any quasi official or semi official group can do.



There can be 1 foundation or 10 and it doesn't matter. People are free to do as they will. If you don't like the foundation then make another one. It really doesn't matter.



I like the current foundation and I also think Iconic should make his own. Both can exist and do whatever the hell they want. If someone thinks they are doing dumb things then dont donate. But please just go do something or go watch a movie.



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