Corey Lewandowski, a former campaign manager for President Donald Trump turned media talking head, and Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow can’t understand why people write off their ramblings about the “deep state.”

Lewandowski joined Marlow on yesterday’s edition of Breitbart News Daily on SirusXM to promote a new book he’s written about his theory that a secret shadow government is trying to undermine the Trump administration. Trump supporters have blamed the “deep state” for every thinkable hurdle the Trump administration faces in the eyes of the American public.

Marlow noted to Lewandowski that the term “deep state” was “a phrase that was not very popular” before Trump took office, despite it being “so right-on.” Lewandowski complimented Marlow and Breitbart, who, Lewandowski said, constantly “remind people that the deep state is very real.”

Lewandowski went on to accuse non-political government workers who were hired during the Obama administration and continue to work in the government of “doing everything they can possibly do to subvert the president’s agenda” because “they don’t want to see him be successful.” He goes on to chide Gary Cohn, who allegedly removed a letter from Trump’s desk, for exploiting the president’s apparent lack of object permanence to prevent him from pulling out of a trade agreement.

“The deep state is very real,” Lewandowski said.

“It is very real and to me, Corey, it’s so logical that it would be the case,” Marlow said. “It’s fully logical that there would be a deep state and of course government and bureaucratic employees are going to more likely be Democrat globalists and they’re going to hate a guy like Donald Trump.”

Marlow asked, “Why would folks like you and I be dismissed for talking this way?”

We wonder.