dj-electric I'd really like an IPC increase instead of moar cores. Just this once. I know that its an insane request, but that would be really cool... Leave cinebench records for TR4

Wich there will be with Ryzen 3xxx series. There were minimal archidectural improvements in Ryzen 2xxx compared to 1xxx and yet AMD still managed a small IPC increase. With bigger changes in 3xxx i'm hopeful that they will achieve IPC parity with Intel's latest and greatest (wich will be CF refresh by the looks of it). The more cores thing is just an added bonus of 7nm shrinking most of the metal layers inside.Current IPC deficit is about 6-7% from 2700X to 8700K. Assuming AMD improves by 10% and Intel improves by 3% with i9-9900K they will be at parity next year. Depending how Spectre patches affect Intel they be even lose by 1-2% next year compared to 3xxx tho so that's something to watch.Also this will mean cheaper 4,6 and 8 core parts unless AMD introduces a new price tier above 400€ for 12c/24 parts. So if you don't need 12 cores then you should hopefully get a 6 or 8 core cheaper than today except it will be faster. That is what peope forget when they complain about increasing core counts. I mean look at what happened to quadcores with HT. They used to be the top dogs in mainstream platforms. But thanks to increasing core counts at the mainstream top you can now get a cheaper quad core with HT/SMT. So increasing core count benefits both those who can utilize all those cores and those who want lower number of cores for cheaper than what's available today.