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Hero MemberActivity: 896Merit: 1000Avatars are overrated. Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket* January 17, 2016, 11:26:57 PM #10024 Alty fucked off a while ago and was a community lurker or whatever. I would like an android wallet too but priorities are priorities and everyone is working hard from what I read in the community Slack chan on the new gui and escrow/market shtuff. Seems far ahead of any competition I believe. But who really knows right? Your best bet is joining the Slack channel to get updates. JOIN IN! WHY hellllooooooo random non-contributor.Alty fucked off a while ago and was a community lurker or whatever. I would like an android wallet too but priorities are priorities and everyone is working hard from what I read in the community Slack chan on the new gui and escrow/market shtuff. Seems far ahead of any competition I believe. But who really knows right? Your best bet is joining the Slack channel to get updates. JOIN IN! "the destruction of privacy widens the existing power imbalance between the ruling factions and everyone else" -- Julian Assange

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Update: Tuesday, January 19, 2016



Calling all writers!



We're looking for writers. Have you written articles for Wikipedia? Ever wanted to contribute?

Here's a great opportunity to try your hand at writing a wiki section (or more!) for our ShadowCash wiki!







While the development team has been churning away at native anonymity portals (Tor, I2P), BIP implementation (32, 39, 40, 44, 65), HD wallet wizardry, GUI v2.0 beautification & the highly-anticipated Market alpha release, our public reference pages have been stuck in 2014. While we do self-host a wiki



The

This is a fantastic chance to contribute, especially for non-coders like me!



We've outlined a rough table of contents as a guide for us to start populating the wiki. Ideally it would be great to have a number of community members step up and each focus on specific sections. This strategy gives us an even distribution of manpower and gives contributors time to craft the right information. Once our page is filled with the current status and relevant information surrounding the project it will be easier for the vast amount of Wikipedia writers to maintain it, even without intimate knowledge of what we're doing here.



Welcome to 2016!

Can I count on any of you to step up and lend a helping hand? I hope so because this is just the start of many community driven initiatives we're rolling out to start the year off with a bang.



The Shadow Community Tuesday, January 19, 2016We're looking for writers. Have you written articles for Wikipedia? Ever wanted to contribute?Here's a great opportunity to try your hand at writing a wiki section (or more!) for our ShadowCash wiki!While the development team has been churning away at native anonymity portals (Tor, I2P), BIP implementation (32, 39, 40, 44, 65), HD wallet wizardry, GUI v2.0 beautification & the highly-anticipated Market alpha release, our public reference pages have been stuck in 2014. While we do self-host a wiki http://doc.shadowproject.io/ that has had small contributions it isn't the focus of this update!The Shadow Project page on Wikipedia is being drafted with updated, accurate & current information.We've outlined a rough table of contents as a guide for us to start populating the wiki. Ideally it would be great to have a number of community members step up and each focus on specific sections. This strategy gives us an even distribution of manpower and gives contributors time to craft the right information. Once our page is filled with the current status and relevant information surrounding the project it will be easier for the vast amount of Wikipedia writers to maintain it, even without intimate knowledge of what we're doing here.Can I count on any of you to step up and lend a helping hand? I hope so because this is just the start of many community driven initiatives we're rolling out to start the year off with a bang.

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LegendaryActivity: 1131Merit: 1001 Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket* January 21, 2016, 04:31:46 PM #10035 Quote from: sidhujag on January 21, 2016, 04:07:55 PM I did a comparison of shade marketplace over other marketplaces



Dropship support is misleading for decentalized marketplaces. Are you saying SYS is adding "modules" from places like Doba? Just curious, because I'm a wholesaler IRL and will dropship over multiple decentralized marketplaces like OpenBazaar and ShadowMarket. I don't need a module to do so. Why pay fees to a middle man? I'd highlight these "modules" as a feature of SYS in your manifesto instead of a comparison point.



Same with Payment Processors. ShadowMarket is definitely not going to ever have those modules. And OpenBazaar is also never going to ever have those modules. Both teams have fundamentally built their systems on a cryptocurrency that takes the middle man out of p2p transactions. Hence "decentralized".



btw, Shadow is built on the same bitcoin code satoshi coded as SYS. Not bitmessage



Lastly, a decentralized marketplace is just one feature of the Privacy Platform the Shadow Project is creating. Can you communicate within SYS or the other marketplaces with clients within the platform, securely and privately?



I'll take longer to read later. I appreciate your breath of review. Dropship support is misleading for decentalized marketplaces. Are you saying SYS is adding "modules" from places like Doba? Just curious, because I'm a wholesaler IRL and will dropship over multiple decentralized marketplaces like OpenBazaar and ShadowMarket. I don't need a module to do so. Why pay fees to a middle man? I'd highlight these "modules" as a feature of SYS in your manifesto instead of a comparison point.Same with Payment Processors. ShadowMarket ishave those modules. And OpenBazaar is alsohave those modules. Both teams have fundamentally built their systems on a cryptocurrency that takes the middle man out of p2p transactions. Hence "decentralized".btw, Shadow is built on the same bitcoin code satoshi coded as SYS. Not bitmessageLastly, a decentralized marketplace is just one feature of the Privacy Platform the Shadow Project is creating. Can you communicate within SYS or the other marketplaces with clients within the platform, securely and privately?I'll take longer to read later. I appreciate your breath of review.

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LegendaryActivity: 2044Merit: 1004 Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket* January 21, 2016, 04:44:36 PM #10036 Quote from: LiteBit on January 21, 2016, 04:31:46 PM Quote from: sidhujag on January 21, 2016, 04:07:55 PM I did a comparison of shade marketplace over other marketplaces



Dropship support is misleading for decentalized marketplaces. Are you saying SYS is adding "modules" from places like Doba? Just curious, because I'm a wholesaler IRL and will dropship over multiple decentralized marketplaces like OpenBazaar and ShadowMarket. I don't need a module to do so. Why pay fees to a middle man? I'd highlight these "modules" as a feature of SYS in your manifesto instead of a comparison point.



Same with Payment Processors. ShadowMarket is definitely not going to ever have those modules. And OpenBazaar is also never going to ever have those modules. Both teams have fundamentally built their systems on a cryptocurrency that takes the middle man out of p2p transactions. Hence "decentralized".



btw, Shadow is built on the same bitcoin code satoshi coded as SYS. Not bitmessage



Lastly, a decentralized marketplace is just one feature of the Privacy Platform the Shadow Project is creating. Can you communicate within SYS or the other marketplaces with clients within the platform, securely and privately?



I'll take longer to read later. I appreciate your breath of review.

Dropship support is misleading for decentalized marketplaces. Are you saying SYS is adding "modules" from places like Doba? Just curious, because I'm a wholesaler IRL and will dropship over multiple decentralized marketplaces like OpenBazaar and ShadowMarket. I don't need a module to do so. Why pay fees to a middle man? I'd highlight these "modules" as a feature of SYS in your manifesto instead of a comparison point.Same with Payment Processors. ShadowMarket ishave those modules. And OpenBazaar is alsohave those modules. Both teams have fundamentally built their systems on a cryptocurrency that takes the middle man out of p2p transactions. Hence "decentralized".btw, Shadow is built on the same bitcoin code satoshi coded as SYS. Not bitmessageLastly, a decentralized marketplace is just one feature of the Privacy Platform the Shadow Project is creating. Can you communicate within SYS or the other marketplaces with clients within the platform, securely and privately?I'll take longer to read later. I appreciate your breath of review.



Regarding dropship support, it is the builtin onchain support of being able to resell others offers.. For example if bobsurplus is selling tennis goods and you wish to resell his tennis stuff for a slight markup (or not) you can relist based on his offer and customer pays you the cut and him his cut.. Ofcourse this is vendor controlled through a whitelist and enable disable control on the feature so only those that he sends a certificate to can relist his offers, it is quite flexibile for a vendor who is wholesaling. It is done onchain and controlled by security of blockchain.. Using certificates.



There is private messaging between private keys.. Using public key encryption with ecdh technology, sending messages to public keys (or aliases) for convenient private communication. Its probably similar to shade if they have aliases.

Is shade marketplace onchain? That is welcome news and i will uodate if so, please keep in mind that there was scarce news when i made this comparison so im reading about escrow and reputation just now here and would be good to get an update so i can update thr article.Regarding dropship support, it is the builtin onchain support of being able to resell others offers.. For example if bobsurplus is selling tennis goods and you wish to resell his tennis stuff for a slight markup (or not) you can relist based on his offer and customer pays you the cut and him his cut.. Ofcourse this is vendor controlled through a whitelist and enable disable control on the feature so only those that he sends a certificate to can relist his offers, it is quite flexibile for a vendor who is wholesaling. It is done onchain and controlled by security of blockchain.. Using certificates.There is private messaging between private keys.. Using public key encryption with ecdh technology, sending messages to public keys (or aliases) for convenient private communication. Its probably similar to shade if they have aliases.

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Hero MemberActivity: 823Merit: 1000 Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket* January 21, 2016, 05:29:57 PM #10037 Quote from: sidhujag on January 21, 2016, 04:44:36 PM Is shade marketplace onchain? That is welcome news and i will uodate if so, please keep in mind that there was scarce news when i made this comparison so im reading about escrow and reputation just now here and would be good to get an update so i can update thr article.



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I originally responded to this article (must be like six months ago?) when it was bought to my attention .. see

Quickly scanning it again shows you still have not grasped how Shadow "what is shade?" works - let alone the P2P market place (no offence but your comments re: Shadow and its code thus far shows you have little ability to comprehend the technology or ongoing development).



I suggest you wait for beta or RC when more documentation will be available so you can compare it based on the actual design. I originally responded to this article (must be like six months ago?) when it was bought to my attention .. see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757255.msg11310173#msg11310173 Quickly scanning it again shows you still have not grasped how Shadow "what is shade?" works - let alone the P2P market place (no offence but your comments re: Shadow and its code thus far shows you have little ability to comprehend the technology or ongoing development).I suggest you wait for beta or RC when more documentation will be available so you can compare it based on the actual design. ^ I am with STUPID!