Release date: April 15th, 2019

Helen Toner

Helen Toner, the director of strategy at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET), shares her observations from the last few years of talking with AI scientists and policymakers in the US and China. Helen and Julia discuss, among other things:

How do the views of Chinese and American AI scientists differ?

How is media coverage of China misleading?

Why the notion of an "AI arms race" is flawed

Why measures of China's AI capabilities are overstated

Reasons for optimism and pessimism about international cooperation over AI

Links

"Age of Ambition: Chasing Fortune, Truth, and Faith in the New China" by Evan Osnos

"The Beautiful Country and the Middle Kingdom: America and China, 1776 to the Present" by John Pomfret

Center for Security and Emerging Technology

A recent article co-authored by Helen, in Foreign Affairs: "Beyond the AI Arms Race: America, China, and the Dangers of Zero-Sum Thinking"

Follow Helen Toner on Twitter

Edited by Brent Silk

Music by Miracles of Modern Science

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