Marvel Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Joe Quesada just made the rivalry between Marvel and DC a little bit frostier during his recent interview on director Kevin Smith’s Fatman on Batman podcast.

During the talk Quesada spoke about Zack Snyder’s “Man of Steel” and indicated he wasn’t a fan of the Superman reboot, though not for the reason you might expect. He says (via The Mary Sue):

“As a comic book fan, I wanted to love that movie so much. I just think at the end of the day, Zod was the hero of the movie to me. He wanted to save his race, and Superman didn’t let him. Zod, in this particular incarnation, struck me as not necessarily an evil man, he had his orders, he had a mission. Correct me if I’m wrong, but he didn’t say, ‘I want to rebuild Krypton, and then come back and destroy this little planet. All I want is to rebuild this planet. And the only reason I’m blowing everything to bits here is because you’ve got what I want, and you’re not giving it to me. So please, give me my people, and I’ll leave.’ When Superman said ‘Krypton had its chance,’ I was like, ‘Will you just f*cking kill him, Zod?’…You could have had a better solution if you had written a better problem. So I see things like that, and I’m like, ‘Aww, man.’ It was one of some things in the movie, that I just ended up feeling disappointed in it.”

Speaking of Superman, actor Josh Hartnett has been out doing promo rounds for Showtime’s “Penny Dreadful” and briefly spoke with Details about the time where he was offered the title role in Bryan Singer’s “Superman Returns”:

“Spider-Man was something we talked about. Batman was another one. But I somehow knew those roles had potential to define me, and I didn’t want that. I didn’t want to be labeled as Superman for the rest of my career. I was maybe 22, but I saw the danger. I didn’t have those agents for much longer after that. There was a lot of infighting between my manager and agents, trying to figure out who to put the blame on. It got to the point where none of us were able to work together.”

If a similar offer were to come now though? Hartnett says: “I’d say, ‘Let’s talk about how it would be done, see if we can get on the same page.’ Compromise doesn’t scare me anymore.”