My allegiance to Everton ended over 25 years ago, but there is a moment during an hour with Carlo Ancelotti when the heart of the schoolboy within me beats faster.

“Next season we have to qualify for the Champions League,” Ancelotti tells me. “I am here for this.”

I pause. I have not heard an Everton manager speak like this since I stood on the Gwladys Street.

“Is that really possible given the strength of the competition?” I ask.

“I am sure this club has that ambition,” he insists.

“The owner wants to be at the top. That is for sure. The idea is clear. I do not know how long it will take, but it will not take long. The spine of the squad is competitive. I do not know what the target will be this season, but next season we have to fight for the top four.”

I tell Ancelotti how invigorating it will be for fans to hear a coach of his calibre talk so boldly.

“Do you realise how many Evertonians loved seeing you get sent off at the end of the game against Manchester United last week?” I ask.