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[70.108.251.18]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z7sm933458ywf.15.2015.11.20.11.40.33 for <john.podesta@gmail.com> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:40:33 -0800 (PST) From: Luke Albee <lukealbee@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1B9C07AF-9ACA-47DE-BF28-BF180014577D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: one idea for a little down the road. . . . . Message-Id: <7A574BBC-CB61-4D3D-841F-07EEE5B30A6B@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:40:33 -0500 References: <DAA77449-A19D-408F-A075-E233D1DFF0A1@gmail.com> <CAE6FiQ_ETo7frMR8wokwvCJpALWjGsDBtBMPoN7CR_vaAD=oHg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAE6FiQ_ETo7frMR8wokwvCJpALWjGsDBtBMPoN7CR_vaAD=oHg@mail.gmail.com> To: John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13B143) --Apple-Mail-1B9C07AF-9ACA-47DE-BF28-BF180014577D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may try to get someone to write this just to make sure the circular firing= squad has enough ammunition to keep firing at each other .... And leave her= out of it.=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:25 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> wrote: >=20 > Interesting. Her instincts are to buy some of the law enforcement argument= s on crypto and Snowden type issues. So may be tough, but worth looking for a= n opening. >=20 >> On Friday, November 20, 2015, Luke Albee <lukealbee@gmail.com> wrote: >> I can=E2=80=99t quite articulate this=E2=80=A6but having met with hundred= s and hundreds of Virginia Tea Party folks for Warner, and having actually l= istened to them. . . I think there is something here: >>=20 >> Trump (and others?) have called for registering Muslims. He has called= for a federal domestic police force that will be focussed on arresting and d= eporting 11 million people. Other candidates are talking about separating i= mmigrants by religion. >>=20 >> All of this is about building up and feeding the BIG BROTHER beast. >>=20 >> The Tea Party was born bc of the perception of government encroachment in= peoples lives =E2=80=94 and it really has always been the Rand Paul mantra:= government wants to control your health care decisions. Government wants r= egister all your guns, which will ultimately lead to gun confiscation. Gove= rnment wants the ability to murder its own citizens with drones (remember th= e Rand Paul filibuster on that one?). The Snowden stuff confirmed what many= felt. . .the government was collecting vast troves of information on everyo= ne. >>=20 >> At a certain point, I think HRC might bring together all the different st= rands (mostly Trumps) of expanding federal Big Brother government =E2=80=94 a= nd talk about how its possible to be safe without creating some kind of larg= e and cumbersome and intrusive police state.=20 >>=20 >> This will sew divisions and acrimony o the other side. But it may be too= early to raise this. Or maybe she SHOULD pick a fight with Trump on this t= o help cement his front runner status. Luke --Apple-Mail-1B9C07AF-9ACA-47DE-BF28-BF180014577D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D= utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I may try to get someone to write this= just to make sure the circular firing squad has enough ammunition to keep f= iring at each other .... And leave her out of it. <br><br>Sent from my i= Phone</div><div><br>On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:25 PM, John Podesta <<a href=3D= "mailto:john.podesta@gmail.com">john.podesta@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br= ></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Interesting. Her instincts are to buy s= ome of the law enforcement arguments on crypto and Snowden type issues. So m= ay be tough, but worth looking for an opening.<br><br>On Friday, November 20= , 2015, Luke Albee <<a href=3D"mailto:lukealbee@gmail.com">lukealbee@gmai= l.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0= 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap= :break-word"><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b>I can=E2=80=99t quite art= iculate this=E2=80=A6but having met with hundreds and hundreds of Virginia T= ea Party folks for Warner, and having actually listened to them. . . I t= hink there is something here:</b></font><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a= 94"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b>Trump= (and others?) have called for registering Muslims. He has call= ed for a federal domestic police force that will be focussed on arresting an= d deporting 11 million people. Other candidates are talking about sepa= rating immigrants by religion.</b></font></div><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D= "#371a94"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b= >All of this is about building up and feeding the BIG BROTHER beast.</b></fo= nt></div><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b><br></b></font></div><di= v><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b>The Tea Party was born bc of the per= ception of government encroachment in peoples lives =E2=80=94 and it really h= as always been the Rand Paul mantra: government wants to control your h= ealth care decisions. Government wants register all your guns, which w= ill ultimately lead to gun confiscation. Government wants the ability t= o murder its own citizens with drones (remember the Rand Paul filibuster on t= hat one?). The Snowden stuff confirmed what many felt. . .the gov= ernment was collecting vast troves of information on everyone.</b></fon= t></div><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b><br></b></font></div><div= ><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b>At a certain point, I think HRC might= bring together all the different strands (mostly Trumps) of expanding feder= al Big Brother government =E2=80=94 and talk about how its possible to be sa= fe without creating some kind of large and cumbersome and intrusive po= lice state. </b></font></div><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><= b><br></b></font></div><div><font size=3D"5" color=3D"#371a94"><b>This will s= ew divisions and acrimony o the other side. But it may be too early to= raise this. Or maybe she SHOULD pick a fight with Trump on this to he= lp cement his front runner status. Luke</b></font></div></div></block= quote> </div></blockquote></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-1B9C07AF-9ACA-47DE-BF28-BF180014577D--