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Hero MemberActivity: 644Merit: 501Herp Derp PTY LTD BOYCOTT MPEx & SDice [RACISM] April 24, 2013, 03:31:29 AM

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SDice is their biggest client by far, is aware of these blog posts and goes to great lengths to defend them.

Erik defends the use of such as racial slurs like N***** in a derogatory fashion - I vehemently disagree.



This foul individual and his business are supported and defended SDice.

MPEx and every business associated with it is a nasty stain on bitcoins reputation and I will have nothing todo with it.



Erik I encourage you to respond, please you stop doing business with that pimple on the ass of bitcoin.



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edit: Erik Voorhees passionately defends the use N***** for business assosciate company MPEx, Erik is (willfully ?) ignorant of the hurt and damage using a racial label in a negative connotation, especially this word in particular with its ugly history. Just 1 of many foul blog posts by the owner and operator of MPEx - http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-nigger-homeowners-and-other-niggers/ SDice is their biggest client by far, is aware of these blog posts and goes to great lengths to defend them.Erik defends the use of such as racial slurs like N***** in a derogatory fashion - I vehemently disagree.This foul individual and his business are supported and defended SDice.MPEx and every business associated with it is a nasty stain on bitcoins reputation and I will have nothing todo with it.Reddit Submission: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1czjxa/boycott_sdice_and_all_mpex_businesses_racism/ edit: Erik Voorhees passionately defends the use N***** for business assosciate company MPEx, Erik is (willfully ?) ignorant of the hurt and damage using a racial label in a negative connotation, especially this word in particular with its ugly history. BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST

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Hero MemberActivity: 644Merit: 501Herp Derp PTY LTD Re: I Mem of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] April 24, 2013, 04:23:22 AM

Last edit: April 24, 2013, 04:53:36 AM by mem #3 Quote from: TradeFortress on April 24, 2013, 04:10:23 AM Boycott MPEx then, not SD.

No, Boycott every business that supports this asshole.



Quote Are you going to boycott all NYSE traded corporations if Marsh Carter said something retarded?

Yes, if Marsh Carter starts making blog posts akin to what a KKK member rants then yes.



edit: Henry Ford knew building engines for the nazi's in WW2 was treason yet he did it anyway, but he wasnt stupid enough to argue it with the US President when he explicitly asked him to stop building engines for Hitler. So no, I do not support boycotting the core, I support boycotting MPEx and every client it has. No, Boycott every business that supports this asshole.Yes, if Marsh Carter starts making blog posts akin to what a KKK member rants then yes.edit: Henry Ford knew building engines for the nazi's in WW2 was treason yet he did it anyway, but he wasnt stupid enough to argue it with the US President when he explicitly asked him to stop building engines for Hitler. So no, I do not support boycotting the core, I support boycotting MPEx and every client it has. BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST

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Sr. MemberActivity: 448Merit: 250this statement is false Re: I Mem of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] April 24, 2013, 04:41:05 AM #5 this is silly and the best way to 'punish' this guy for being so ridiculous is to not make a big deal about this at all. he didn't buy slaves, he's just using a racially charged word because he enjoys the fact that it makes people uncomfortable, probably because he has sociopathic tendencies or some superiority complex.



he's dumb. this is dumb. moving on. this sentence has fifteen words, seventy-four letters, four commas, one hyphen, and a period.

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Hero MemberActivity: 798Merit: 1000 Re: I Mem of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] April 24, 2013, 04:45:25 AM #6 Quote from: arepo on April 24, 2013, 04:41:05 AM this is silly and the best way to 'punish' this guy for being so ridiculous is to not make a big deal about this at all. he didn't buy slaves, he's just using a racially charged word because he enjoys the fact that it makes people uncomfortable, probably because he has sociopathic tendencies or some superiority complex.



he's dumb. this is dumb. moving on.



Well sure, but do you really want someone like this being associated with Bitcoin? If it were just some random pyscho on the forums (of which there are of course many) that'd be ignorable, but if this guy runs MPEx (which I've not had any intention of using before now, so not much has changed for me) then that's a bigger issue. Having some dick like this running a Bitcoin exchange should not be encouraged. Well sure, but do you really want someone like this being associated with Bitcoin? If it were just some random pyscho on the forums (of which there are of course many) that'd be ignorable, but if this guy runs MPEx (which I've not had any intention of using before now, so not much has changed for me) then that's a bigger issue. Having some dick like this running a Bitcoin exchange should not be encouraged.

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Hero MemberActivity: 644Merit: 501Herp Derp PTY LTD Re: I Mem of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] April 24, 2013, 04:52:27 AM #7 Quote from: simonk83 on April 24, 2013, 04:45:25 AM Well sure, but do you really want someone like this being associated with Bitcoin? If it were just some random pyscho on the forums (of which there are of course many) that'd be ignorable, but if this guy runs MPEx (which I've not had any intention of using before now, so not much has changed for me) then that's a bigger issue. Having some dick like this running a Bitcoin exchange should not be encouraged.



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This is the core issue here, bitcoins most well known business is run on top of a shitty bitcoin exchange operated by an outspoken racist.

This is not the usual subtle brand of racism we are all used to, this guy takes time to write up long hate speeches justifying his way of thinking.



Erik either did not bother to do his due diligence when doing the IPO or has no problems with the racism MPEx promotes.

+1This is the core issue here, bitcoins most well known business is run on top of a shitty bitcoin exchange operated by an outspoken racist.This is not the usual subtle brand of racism we are all used to, this guy takes time to write up long hate speeches justifying his way of thinking.Erik either did not bother to do his due diligence when doing the IPO or has no problems with the racism MPEx promotes. BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST

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Hero MemberActivity: 798Merit: 1000 Re: I Mem of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] April 24, 2013, 04:57:31 AM #8 Quote from: mem on April 24, 2013, 04:52:27 AM Quote from: simonk83 on April 24, 2013, 04:45:25 AM Well sure, but do you really want someone like this being associated with Bitcoin? If it were just some random pyscho on the forums (of which there are of course many) that'd be ignorable, but if this guy runs MPEx (which I've not had any intention of using before now, so not much has changed for me) then that's a bigger issue. Having some dick like this running a Bitcoin exchange should not be encouraged.



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This is the core issue here, bitcoins most well known business is run on top of a shitty bitcoin exchange operated by an outspoken racist.

This is not the usual subtle brand of racism we are all used to, this guy takes time to write up long hate speeches justifying his way of thinking.



Erik either did not bother to do his due diligence when doing the IPO or has no problems with the racism MPEx promotes.



+1This is the core issue here, bitcoins most well known business is run on top of a shitty bitcoin exchange operated by an outspoken racist.This is not the usual subtle brand of racism we are all used to, this guy takes time to write up long hate speeches justifying his way of thinking.Erik either did not bother to do his due diligence when doing the IPO or has no problems with the racism MPEx promotes.

Well I still think you'd be better spending your time starting a campaign against MPEx over SD. When you want to chop down a tree you don't start with the branches, you go for the trunk. Well I still think you'd be better spending your time starting a campaign against MPEx over SD. When you want to chop down a tree you don't start with the branches, you go for the trunk.

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Hero MemberActivity: 644Merit: 501Herp Derp PTY LTD Re: I Mem of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] April 24, 2013, 05:11:17 AM #10 Quote from: simonk83 on April 24, 2013, 04:57:31 AM Well I still think you'd be better spending your time starting a campaign against MPEx over SD. When you want to chop down a tree you don't start with the branches, you go for the trunk.



Until SDice decided to use MPEx it was an insignificant little nothing run by an angry racist, this is why I include SDice (that and they are their biggest customer).



Respectable businesses and Sponsors are known to drop clients, mascots and spokespersons when ugly shit like this rears its head, yet Erik is strangely quiet.

MPEx did not suddenly become a revolting racist after SDice gave them their endorsement, they have been this way the entire time (read his other blog posts if you have the stomach). Until SDice decided to use MPEx it was an insignificant little nothing run by an angry racist, this is why I include SDice (that and they are their biggest customer).Respectable businesses and Sponsors are known to drop clients, mascots and spokespersons when ugly shit like this rears its head, yet Erik is strangely quiet.MPEx did not suddenly become a revolting racist after SDice gave them their endorsement, they have been this way the entire time (read his other blog posts if you have the stomach). BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST

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I am saddened to see that the thought police are out in force, and to be reminded once again that most people are such sheep. I read through what was linked and did not see a single racist thought. Strangely, I did see anti-racist opinions being expressed. Racism refers to a belief that a "race" is genetically inferior/superior to another. The blog linked explicitly stated that there is no reason to believe that any "race" (or fenotype) is genetically superior to any other.



If you want to say he is ethnocentric, or prejudiced, I could definitely understand that. That would actually make sense. He doesn't deny that he is elitist. Somebody called him a "dick", which is fine. If you wanted to claim he engages in discrimination, you might even be able to convince me. But the blog post linked is explicitly anti-racist.



So why is he being labeled a "revolting racist"? Well it's clearly an attempt to label and marginalize someone that the majority disagrees with. Calling someone a "revolting ethnocentrist" just doesn't pack the same wallop. I'm not ignorant of the fact that there is a widespread and ongoing attempt to redefine the precise meaning of the word "racism" to encompass all kinds of viewpoints found distasteful by the majority. I see this as an excercise in intellectual dishonesty. The smarter people involved must understand the completely unsubtle difference between "race" and culture, but they like to use the label RACIST anyway.



Look at the hysterical nature of these quotes (emphasis mine):



Quote This is the kind of person they chose to do business with.



No excuses, either remove yourself from that horrible business or be forever blacklisted on my list as a supporters of a hate group .



MPEx and every business associated with it is a nasty stain on bitcoins reputation and I will have nothing todo with it.



Erik I encourage you to respond but my stance will not change, either you stop doing business with that pimple on the ass of bitcoin or be branded a racist .





Quote Yes, if Marsh Carter starts making blog posts akin to what a KKK member rants then yes.



edit: Henry Ford knew building engines for the nazi's in WW2 was treason yet he did it anyway, but he wasnt stupid enough to argue it with the US President when he explicitly asked him to stop building engines for Hitler . So no, I do not support boycotting the core, I support boycotting MPEx and every client it has.



Quote Is the person who posted that article on these forums? He sounds like an utter, utter, UTTER sociopath . And I agree that, for now, it should be MPEx being (quite rightly so) run out of the community for this, not SatoshiDice.



Quote Well sure, but do you really want someone like this being associated with Bitcoin? If it were just some random pyscho on the forums (of which there are of course many) that'd be ignorable, but if this guy runs MPEx (which I've not had any intention of using before now, so not much has changed for me) then that's a bigger issue. Having some dick like this running a Bitcoin exchange should not be encouraged.

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This is the core issue here, bitcoins most well known business is run on top of a shitty bitcoin exchange operated by an outspoken racist . This is not the usual subtle brand of racism we are all used to, this guy takes time to write up long hate speeches justifying his way of thinking.



Erik either did not bother to do his due diligence when doing the IPO or has no problems with the racism MPEx promotes.



Quote Until SDice decided to use MPEx it was an insignificant little nothing run by an angry racist , this is why I include SDice (that and they are their biggest customer).



Respectable businesses and Sponsors are known to drop clients, mascots and spokespersons when ugly shit like this rears its head, yet Erik is strangely quiet.

MPEx did not suddenly become a revolting racist after SDice gave them their endorsement, they have been this way the entire time (read his other blog posts if you have the stomach).

Quote +1 to the OP for making a noise about this.



Mircea has gone too far with that article, his expressed opinions are that of a sociopathic racist , and completely unacceptable in any kind of civilised society.



I personally completely support the OP's call for a boycott of MPEx.



They've pulled out all the stops - hate speech, unacceptable in civilized society, psychopath/sociopath, KKK, Hitler, Nazis, hate groups, "kind of person", revolting racist. Again, calling his viewpoints ethnocentric just wouldn't have the same power to marginalize. They need the labels to do that, even if the labels have no basis in reality. Take "psychopath" for example... Let's pretend that there actually is something called a "psychopath", that "mental disorders" do not largely depend on the prevailing culture of the time and place these classifications are invented out of whole cloth... Look at the current defition in the DSM. What has this guy done that would lead you believe he is a "psychopath"?



Mem even goes so far as to threaten that the operator of SD will be "branded a racist" if he does not do exactly as he is told. And that he will be "blacklisted" as a "supporter of a hate group". He is not making any bones about the fact that he intends to libel and marginalize anyone who doesn't fall into line. I am guessing I will get the same treatment.



This all reminds me of the sheep from Animal Farm. They were too stupid to even understand the entire ideology so they were just taught the maxim "Four legs good, two legs bad". Anytime an animal tried to disagree with the pigs in charge, they would get shouted down by a tremendous bleating of "FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD". That's what I see here.







Please note: Before you start with all the nonsense, I have never been an owner, investor, employee nor customer of SD or MPEx. I don't know any of the people involved. Sadly, I am not paid to post; though, being an elitist, I feel I should be. This post shocked me. Then it saddened me. Shocked me because I had assumed "mem's gambling list" was all but defunct. Several posters have told mem that betsofbitco.in recently stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from some of their customers. At least one provided a link. Mem eventually showed up, apologized for being so busy lately that he can't keep the list up to date, then said he would need a link to see what this was all about (ignoring that a link had already been given). I provided a link to the long thread in the Scam Accusation forum, but the thieves at betsofbitco.in are still listed on "mem's gambling list" as a reputable site. Imagine my shock to learn that gambling sites CAN still be removed from the list. The list is not in fact defunct. Why SD should be removed is not at all clear to me, as there doesn't seem to be any reason or logic behind the decision, but it's indisputable that mem is still removing sites he considers somehow unworthy.I am saddened to see that the thought police are out in force, and to be reminded once again that most people are such sheep. I read through what was linked and did not see a single racist thought. Strangely, I did see anti-racist opinions being expressed. Racism refers to a belief that a "race" is genetically inferior/superior to another. The blog linked explicitly stated that there is no reason to believe that any "race" (or fenotype) is genetically superior to any other.If you want to say he is ethnocentric, or prejudiced, I could definitely understand that. That would actually make sense. He doesn't deny that he is elitist. Somebody called him a "dick", which is fine. If you wanted to claim he engages in discrimination, you might even be able to convince me. But the blog post linked is explicitly anti-racist.So why is he being labeled a "revolting racist"? Well it's clearly an attempt to label and marginalize someone that the majority disagrees with. Calling someone a "revolting ethnocentrist" just doesn't pack the same wallop. I'm not ignorant of the fact that there is a widespread and ongoing attempt to redefine the precise meaning of the word "racism" to encompass all kinds of viewpoints found distasteful by the majority. I see this as an excercise in intellectual dishonesty. The smarter people involved must understand the completely unsubtle difference between "race" and culture, but they like to use the label RACIST anyway.Look at the hysterical nature of these quotes (emphasis mine):They've pulled out all the stops - hate speech, unacceptable in civilized society, psychopath/sociopath, KKK, Hitler, Nazis, hate groups, "kind of person", revolting racist. Again, calling his viewpoints ethnocentric just wouldn't have the same power to marginalize. They need the labels to do that, even if the labels have no basis in reality. Take "psychopath" for example... Let's pretend that there actually is something called a "psychopath", that "mental disorders" do not largely depend on the prevailing culture of the time and place these classifications are invented out of whole cloth... Look at the current defition in the DSM. What has this guy done that would lead you believe he is a "psychopath"?Mem even goes so far as to threaten that the operator of SD will be "branded a racist" if he does not do exactly as he is told. And that he will be "blacklisted" as a "supporter of a hate group". He is not making any bones about the fact that he intends to libel and marginalize anyone who doesn't fall into line. I am guessing I will get the same treatment.This all reminds me of the sheep from Animal Farm. They were too stupid to even understand the entire ideology so they were just taught the maxim "Four legs good, two legs bad". Anytime an animal tried to disagree with the pigs in charge, they would get shouted down by a tremendous bleating of "FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD". That's what I see here.Please note: Before you start with all the nonsense, I have never been an owner, investor, employee nor customer of SD or MPEx. I don't know any of the people involved. Sadly, I am not paid to post; though, being an elitist, I feel I should be.