Earlier today, John Lydon made an appearance on “Good Morning Britain” with hosts Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid to talk about President Donald Trump, calling him a “possible friend” and dismissing claims that Trump is a racist. “What I dislike is the left-wing media in America are trying to smear the bloke as a racist, and that’s completely not true,” he said. “There’s many, many problems with him as a human being, but he’s not that, and there just might be a chance something good will come out of that situation, because he terrifies politicians. And this is joy to behold.” Morgan then called him “the absolutely archetypal anti-establishment character in politics.” Lydon added, “Dare I say, a possible friend.”

At the beginning of the interview, the former Sex Pistol and PiL frontman (who is now a U.S. citizen) also called his experience meeting UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage “fantastic.” He said of Brexit: “The working class have spoke, and I’m one of them, and I’m with them. And there it is.” Watch the interview below. Pitchfork has reached out to representatives for Lydon for further comment.

In a new interview with the New York Times, Lydon was asked whether he thinks conservatism is the new punk rock. “Aaaaaah! No! [laughs] Aaaaaah! There’s better analogies than that. Is Donald the new Sex Pistols? I don’t know, and I don’t think you need to tie things together that way,” he replied. “It’s too easy. That’s lazy intellectualism at work, that is.”

On Tuesday, Lydon appeared on Virgin Radio UK to double down on his comments, saying, “To be smearing him as a racist, this isn’t right, there’s no evidence or proof to that. Until there is I’ll stand up and say ‘that’s wrong.’” He continued, “Whether you like [Donald Trump] or not, you have to support him, or you will destroy the country. You’ve got to make things work.” Find video from that interview below as well.