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NewbieActivity: 6Merit: 0 I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:01:52 PM #1



I have been following Bitcoin for over a year and was the first person ever to put my house for sale for bitcoin.



http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/03/alberta-man-accepting-bitcoins-in-exchange-for-home.html



Not sure if you followed my story from a year ago, but the house just sold on Friday, and will make the news tomorrow I suspect. When the house closed on Friday I got approximately 648 BTC for my house which is based on prices over the past 6 months when the deal was actively negotiated, legal fees, realtor fees, and a bunch of contract wording that I frankly don't understand. I am now all in! I really believe in bitcoin. It is the future of the world. I look forward to the continued price increase and one day I plan to own my own island. I will truly be a bitcoin billionaire by the time I am 25 I believe. This house was inherited from my father who passed away a few years ago and he always believed in me and told me I would make it big one day and so I shall. Wish me luck



Tay More Hi All,I have been following Bitcoin for over a year and was the first person ever to put my house for sale for bitcoin.Not sure if you followed my story from a year ago, but the house just sold on Friday, and will make the news tomorrow I suspect. When the house closed on Friday I got approximately 648 BTC for my house which is based on prices over the past 6 months when the deal was actively negotiated, legal fees, realtor fees, and a bunch of contract wording that I frankly don't understand. I am now all in! I really believe in bitcoin. It is the future of the world. I look forward to the continued price increase and one day I plan to own my own island. I will truly be a bitcoin billionaire by the time I am 25 I believe. This house was inherited from my father who passed away a few years ago and he always believed in me and told me I would make it big one day and so I shall. Wish me luckTay More

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Sr. MemberActivity: 269Merit: 250 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:14:51 PM #4 Wait, you're telling us that instead of selling your house back around march 2013 for dollars and then buying bitcoins you waited a year for a buyer that was willing to offer bitcoins directly?



Either you are trolling or that would really suck



[edit] sorry for appearing rude. It is great that you believe in bitcoin but you should be prepared to potentially lose it all.

It would be an absolute shame if your inheritance that your parents have worked hard for would go to waste

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NewbieActivity: 6Merit: 0 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:20:47 PM #5 Nobody wanted to buy it for either dollars or bitcoin. I tried believe me. It was nearly impossible to sell for bitcoin because I had to get 3 lawyers, and the real estate lady (originally it was a private sale), and it had to be $1 plus the bitcoin, as bitcoin are not legal tender in Canada so can't be used as 'consideration' in financial transactions. By the time all the smoke cleared I got 648 btc. But if it is going to $10/$100K per coin like the Winkle guys are saying and many others, then I am set for life regardless of how many I got

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Sr. MemberActivity: 476Merit: 250 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:25:14 PM #7 I would just ask myself one question: If bitcoin takes a dive to $300, will I panic sell?

If you feel a knot in your stomach, you are over invested and you will panic sell. In which case I would sell some now, down to a level at which that knot disappears and you're comfortable.



That's what I did.. I've been over invested and made mistakes, but now I've taken home some guaranteed profits so that if it does nose dive (temporarily or not) I won't get emotional. For me that was about 1/3 of my BTC that I needed to sell.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 269Merit: 250 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:34:28 PM #8 Quote from: jgray on March 09, 2014, 06:20:47 PM

Nobody wanted to buy it for either dollars or bitcoin. I tried believe me. It was nearly impossible to sell for bitcoin because I had to get 3 lawyers, and the real estate lady (originally it was a private sale), and it had to be $1 plus the bitcoin, as bitcoin are not legal tender in Canada so can't be used as 'consideration' in financial transactions. By the time all the smoke cleared I got 648 btc. But if it is going to $10/$100K per coin like the Winkle guys are saying and many others, then I am set for life regardless of how many I got

Look, the article says you are still quite young so I guess it is more reasonable to take greater risks (if you don't have a family to look after etc.) because you'll have time to recover if things don't work out.



One can read the enthusiasm out of your writing but don't make the mistake of building your future hopes and dreams on a gamble.

Either way good luck to you. (And do yourself the favor and don't speculate with all your new bitcoin wealth.) Look, the article says you are still quite young so I guess it is more reasonable to take greater risks (if you don't have a family to look after etc.) because you'll have time to recover if things don't work out.One can read the enthusiasm out of your writing but don't make the mistake of building your future hopes and dreams on a gamble.Either way good luck to you. (And do yourself the favor and don't speculate with all your new bitcoin wealth.)

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LegendaryActivity: 2268Merit: 1278 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:38:26 PM #11 Quote from: raid_n on March 09, 2014, 06:34:28 PM Quote from: jgray on March 09, 2014, 06:20:47 PM

Nobody wanted to buy it for either dollars or bitcoin. I tried believe me. It was nearly impossible to sell for bitcoin because I had to get 3 lawyers, and the real estate lady (originally it was a private sale), and it had to be $1 plus the bitcoin, as bitcoin are not legal tender in Canada so can't be used as 'consideration' in financial transactions. By the time all the smoke cleared I got 648 btc. But if it is going to $10/$100K per coin like the Winkle guys are saying and many others, then I am set for life regardless of how many I got

Look, the article says you are still quite young so I guess it is more reasonable to take greater risks (if you don't have a family to look after etc.) because you'll have time to recover if things don't work out.



One can read the enthusiasm out of your writing but don't make the mistake of building your future hopes and dreams on a gamble.

Either way good luck to you. (And do yourself the favor and don't speculate with all your new bitcoin wealth.)

Look, the article says you are still quite young so I guess it is more reasonable to take greater risks (if you don't have a family to look after etc.) because you'll have time to recover if things don't work out.One can read the enthusiasm out of your writing but don't make the mistake of building your future hopes and dreams on a gamble.Either way good luck to you. (And do yourself the favor and don't speculate with all your new bitcoin wealth.)



Good luck, and keep your keys safe. It only looks like a gamble if you don't understand the fundamentals.Good luck, and keep your keys safe. Look inside yourself, and you will see that you are the bubble.

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LegendaryActivity: 2058Merit: 1027 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:50:16 PM #12 Quote from: Ibian on March 09, 2014, 06:38:26 PM Quote from: raid_n on March 09, 2014, 06:34:28 PM Quote from: jgray on March 09, 2014, 06:20:47 PM

Nobody wanted to buy it for either dollars or bitcoin. I tried believe me. It was nearly impossible to sell for bitcoin because I had to get 3 lawyers, and the real estate lady (originally it was a private sale), and it had to be $1 plus the bitcoin, as bitcoin are not legal tender in Canada so can't be used as 'consideration' in financial transactions. By the time all the smoke cleared I got 648 btc. But if it is going to $10/$100K per coin like the Winkle guys are saying and many others, then I am set for life regardless of how many I got

Look, the article says you are still quite young so I guess it is more reasonable to take greater risks (if you don't have a family to look after etc.) because you'll have time to recover if things don't work out.



One can read the enthusiasm out of your writing but don't make the mistake of building your future hopes and dreams on a gamble.

Either way good luck to you. (And do yourself the favor and don't speculate with all your new bitcoin wealth.)

Look, the article says you are still quite young so I guess it is more reasonable to take greater risks (if you don't have a family to look after etc.) because you'll have time to recover if things don't work out.One can read the enthusiasm out of your writing but don't make the mistake of building your future hopes and dreams on a gamble.Either way good luck to you. (And do yourself the favor and don't speculate with all your new bitcoin wealth.)



Good luck, and keep your keys safe.

It only looks like a gamble if you don't understand the fundamentals.Good luck, and keep your keys safe.

I agree, if you legitimately think we gonna go around and use paper money, the only thing which matters, like some fucking monkeys in a fully tecnhological society in 2050 you are largely mistaken



bitcoin might not be it but it definately can fill money's purpose I agree, if you legitimately think we gonna go around and use paper money, the only thing which matters, like some fucking monkeys in a fully tecnhological society in 2050 you are largely mistakenbitcoin might not be it but it definately can fill money's purpose

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LegendaryActivity: 2436Merit: 1605 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:56:35 PM

Last edit: March 09, 2014, 07:11:57 PM by Biodom #13 OP, I would ask a bank or see on ICBIT if it is possible to buy futures or something equivalent to puts on bitcoin, then convert small amount of your bitcoin (2-5%) to cash and buy these hedging instruments at much lower $$ value that bitcoin currently is (for example, $200-300). If bitcoin declines catastrophically in the future, your hedge will save you. Granted, i am not sure what % you can cover this way if you spend 2-5%.



On the stock market, whenever I am too extended on the long side, I buy out of the money puts-you can read Nassim Taleb (The Black swan) re this tactics.

The critical point is to NOT overpay for such puts, though, because they rarely work, but when they do, they will save your ass.

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Hero MemberActivity: 840Merit: 1000 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 06:59:53 PM #14 Quote from: jgray on March 09, 2014, 06:01:52 PM



I have been following Bitcoin for over a year and was the first person ever to put my house for sale for bitcoin.



http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/03/alberta-man-accepting-bitcoins-in-exchange-for-home.html



Not sure if you followed my story from a year ago, but the house just sold on Friday, and will make the news tomorrow I suspect. When the house closed on Friday I got approximately 648 BTC for my house which is based on prices over the past 6 months when the deal was actively negotiated, legal fees, realtor fees, and a bunch of contract wording that I frankly don't understand. I am now all in! I really believe in bitcoin. It is the future of the world. I look forward to the continued price increase and one day I plan to own my own island. I will truly be a bitcoin billionaire by the time I am 25 I believe. This house was inherited from my father who passed away a few years ago and he always believed in me and told me I would make it big one day and so I shall. Wish me luck



Tay More

Hi All,I have been following Bitcoin for over a year and was the first person ever to put my house for sale for bitcoin.Not sure if you followed my story from a year ago, but the house just sold on Friday, and will make the news tomorrow I suspect. When the house closed on Friday I got approximately 648 BTC for my house which is based on prices over the past 6 months when the deal was actively negotiated, legal fees, realtor fees, and a bunch of contract wording that I frankly don't understand. I am now all in! I really believe in bitcoin. It is the future of the world. I look forward to the continued price increase and one day I plan to own my own island. I will truly be a bitcoin billionaire by the time I am 25 I believe. This house was inherited from my father who passed away a few years ago and he always believed in me and told me I would make it big one day and so I shall. Wish me luckTay More

If you don't mind me saying....you are out your fucking mind.



As other people have suggested. Visualise your reaction if you wake up sometime next week and see Bitcoin at $450. How is that going to make you feel? What are you going to do? You realise that there are hundreds of thousands of stolen coins in circulation right now, many of them probably being prepared for a big long drawn out cashing out, don't you?



Sell at least 60% of what you have for as close to the matching equivalent cash price of your house that you can get. 200 BTC is more than enough of a wild card gamble to be taking on Bitcoin at this point in time. If Bitcoin goes to $5K, then great! But if Bitcoin happens to die a premature death for any reason, then you live and learn but you still have your shirt on your back. If you don't mind me saying....you are out your fucking mind.As other people have suggested. Visualise your reaction if you wake up sometime next week and see Bitcoin at $450. How is that going to make you feel? What are you going to do? You realise that there are hundreds of thousands of stolen coins in circulation right now, many of them probably being prepared for a big long drawn out cashing out, don't you?Sell at least 60% of what you have for as close to the matching equivalent cash price of your house that you can get. 200 BTC is more than enough of a wild card gamble to be taking on Bitcoin at this point in time. If Bitcoin goes to $5K, then great! But if Bitcoin happens to die a premature death for any reason, then you live and learn but you still have your shirt on your back. Kraken Account, Robbed/Emptied. Kraken say "Fuck you, its your loss": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559553.msg15656643#msg15656643



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MemberActivity: 98Merit: 10 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 07:05:21 PM #16 Quote from: MatTheCat on March 09, 2014, 06:59:53 PM Quote from: jgray on March 09, 2014, 06:01:52 PM



I have been following Bitcoin for over a year and was the first person ever to put my house for sale for bitcoin.



http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/03/alberta-man-accepting-bitcoins-in-exchange-for-home.html



Not sure if you followed my story from a year ago, but the house just sold on Friday, and will make the news tomorrow I suspect. When the house closed on Friday I got approximately 648 BTC for my house which is based on prices over the past 6 months when the deal was actively negotiated, legal fees, realtor fees, and a bunch of contract wording that I frankly don't understand. I am now all in! I really believe in bitcoin. It is the future of the world. I look forward to the continued price increase and one day I plan to own my own island. I will truly be a bitcoin billionaire by the time I am 25 I believe. This house was inherited from my father who passed away a few years ago and he always believed in me and told me I would make it big one day and so I shall. Wish me luck



Tay More

Hi All,I have been following Bitcoin for over a year and was the first person ever to put my house for sale for bitcoin.Not sure if you followed my story from a year ago, but the house just sold on Friday, and will make the news tomorrow I suspect. When the house closed on Friday I got approximately 648 BTC for my house which is based on prices over the past 6 months when the deal was actively negotiated, legal fees, realtor fees, and a bunch of contract wording that I frankly don't understand. I am now all in! I really believe in bitcoin. It is the future of the world. I look forward to the continued price increase and one day I plan to own my own island. I will truly be a bitcoin billionaire by the time I am 25 I believe. This house was inherited from my father who passed away a few years ago and he always believed in me and told me I would make it big one day and so I shall. Wish me luckTay More

If you don't mind me saying....you are out your fucking mind.



As other people have suggested. Visualise your reaction if you wake up sometime next week and see Bitcoin at $450. How is that going to make you feel? What are you going to do? You realise that there are hundreds of thousands of stolen coins in circulation right now, many of them probably being prepared for a big long drawn out cashing out, don't you?



Sell at least 60% of what you have for as close to the matching equivalent cash price of your house that you can get. 200 BTC is more than enough of a wild card gamble to be taking on Bitcoin at this point in time. If Bitcoin goes to $5K, then great! But if Bitcoin happens to die a premature death for any reason, then you live and learn but you still have your shirt on your back.

If you don't mind me saying....you are out your fucking mind.As other people have suggested. Visualise your reaction if you wake up sometime next week and see Bitcoin at $450. How is that going to make you feel? What are you going to do? You realise that there are hundreds of thousands of stolen coins in circulation right now, many of them probably being prepared for a big long drawn out cashing out, don't you?Sell at least 60% of what you have for as close to the matching equivalent cash price of your house that you can get. 200 BTC is more than enough of a wild card gamble to be taking on Bitcoin at this point in time. If Bitcoin goes to $5K, then great! But if Bitcoin happens to die a premature death for any reason, then you live and learn but you still have your shirt on your back.

Some people play it safe, some people light the world on fire. Either way, good luck to him! Some people play it safe, some people light the world on fire. Either way, good luck to him!

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LegendaryActivity: 2436Merit: 1605 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 07:09:38 PM #17 Quote from: MatTheCat on March 09, 2014, 06:59:53 PM



If you don't mind me saying....you are out your fucking mind.



But if Bitcoin happens to die a premature death for any reason, then you live and learn but you still have your shirt on your back.



The guy is probably 18-22 and he inherited the house. Even if he loses much of the cash value, he basically has all life of work ahead of him. It would be different if he was 50. I say, it is a bold speculation and he will be in the news.



There was a guy in January 2013 who posted that he got 30K credit card loan and bought BTC for $13 for the whole 30K (must have been 2-2.5K coins). A couple of months later when bitcoin went to $100-200 he posted that he sold enough to cover his loan as many were suggesting. I don't know how it ended. This was only possible in 2013 and I would have never done anything like this. The guy is probably 18-22 and he inherited the house. Even if he loses much of the cash value, he basically has all life of work ahead of him. It would be different if he was 50. I say, it is a bold speculation and he will be in the news.There was a guy in January 2013 who posted that he got 30K credit card loan and bought BTC for $13 for the whole 30K (must have been 2-2.5K coins). A couple of months later when bitcoin went to $100-200 he posted that he sold enough to cover his loan as many were suggesting. I don't know how it ended. This was only possible in 2013 and I would have never done anything like this.

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Hero MemberActivity: 840Merit: 1000 Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! March 09, 2014, 07:16:48 PM #19 Quote from: Biodom on March 09, 2014, 07:09:38 PM The guy is 25 and he inherited the house. Even if he loses much of the cash value, he basically has all life of work ahead of him. It would be different if he was 50.

I say, it is a bold speculation and he will be in the news.



There was a guy in January 2013 who posted that he got 30K credit card loan and bought BTC for $13 for the whole 30K (must have been 2-2.5K coins). A couple of months later when bitcoin went to $100-200 he posted that he sold enough to cover his loan as many were suggesting. I don't know how it ended. This was only possible in 2013 and I would have never done anything like this.



With that kind of money invested wisely, the guy could live his whole live without ever having a financial worry to speak off. Instead, he is taking a Lamborghini's and country mansions or sweet nothing gamble. I can tell that he has absolutely no investment experience as only a n00b would pile into any asset class on an all-in basis like that, let alone into one of the most volatile and unpredictably risky asset classes on the face of the planet. He has not the slightest bit of experience of the psychological states he will have to face if say sometime next week, Bitcoin is not $636, but $536. 1/6th of his entire wealth evaporated, just like that.....but don't worry, it will soon come back, won't it!?!?! With that kind of money invested wisely, the guy could live his whole live without ever having a financial worry to speak off. Instead, he is taking a Lamborghini's and country mansions or sweet nothing gamble. I can tell that he has absolutely no investment experience as only a n00b would pile into any asset class on an all-in basis like that, let alone into one of the most volatile and unpredictably risky asset classes on the face of the planet. He has not the slightest bit of experience of the psychological states he will have to face if say sometime next week, Bitcoin is not $636, but $536. 1/6th of his entire wealth evaporated, just like that.....but don't worry, it will soon come back, won't it!?!?! Kraken Account, Robbed/Emptied. Kraken say "Fuck you, its your loss": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559553.msg15656643#msg15656643



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