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Talk Show Episode 182.



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TJ what's Hello? Well, what Sorry, sorry, interrupt. You are in you are in Greece, I'm in St Kilda in Melbourne. What's



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going grossest gonna say we're only, we're only a couple of episodes away



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from the US is when I was going to so you can kind of tell because we're both throwing at intros and pretty much just want to be in the same room so we can make sense of what we're saying to each other.



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Well, I don't want to do the hello and grace because that's very much Hamish and Andy, the beginning of their show. That's their shtick. They do every single episode they say hello in a different language. I



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I've missed that whole bit. Even though I've listened to this show for years. Over the time. Oh, well over the



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only it's it's only just it's been a thing since I've been doing the podcast, doing overs international audiences. True, but I don't. I mean, Greece is one of those places where I haven't been a dumb tourist and haven't really learned the language. But well, I mean, we wouldn't get away with that in a lot of ways. We



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touched on it yesterday. souvlaki and I forgot to mention that the reason I even brought up the words of lucky yesterday was because I wanted to see if you had noticed that they don't sell lamps of Lucky's anywhere



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Yeah, have you noticed Yeah, we've been switching between pork and chicken



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yeah and then I got told that the chicken one is most likely Turkey by somebody is like it could be cheaper. Really? I deny you know people throw out the I



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love turkey I always if someone said what's more premium chicken or turkey I would always say turkeys more premium I'd say that



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maybe maybe in America because they ate a lot more turkeys Thanksgiving and I mean we don't really have any thing where we're just smashing turkeys there's



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no turkeys definitely not a you don't eat turkey during the week it's a general rule I mean there's no check out turkeys around him yeah some turkey bit tweaked if you were I like the what are the what's the deal with the turkey log I think that's like we're pretty boat in in the Janssen household and we have like a turkey I think it's a turkey log that we have for Christmas maybe it sounds fucking disgusting. Yeah. But it's it's not like the that you know like the the grow some turkey Street. Yeah, like I as I've gotten older, I can't do like Strasburg and all those sorts things like anything to process just makes me want to gag.



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What about smiley face meet? Did you? Have you seen that? Not all?



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I'm guessing it's like Strasburg. So yeah, I think



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it's something like Strasburg. And it seemed like a



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I've never said Strasburg before. And I think I always have said



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I remember the cries and so he's at school that had stress sandwiches. It was on white bread. It just it tastes it tastes bizarre. It's a weed, the weed food.



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All right, it's probably not far off. Spam. in some regards. It's what it actually fancy spam. That's what we call it from now.



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You really fancy spam or I wonder if



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I To be honest, I haven't seen anyone in the flesh eating strategy since probably 2003.



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Yeah, you don't make friends with people with stress anymore. Now. So you pointed out that my son now looks about 17.



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Yeah, especially when he was big cats.



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Yeah, that was a very cute photo. My wife posted a photo on her Instagram of bowtie wearing this hat. But he does. He looks old. He's like, he's only 19 months, but he's starting to look really old. And we we still mean we still have baths together at night. And it's a fun time. But



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what you I was gonna say you sort of implying as if he's like, you know, he gets funny about his dad.



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How old is he gotten? I mean, for any people out there that are listening that aren't parents. It's it. It's an interesting experience. Starting to change your 19 month old son's nappy, and he's just got he's got a little Boehner it's the well he cuz he



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reminds me of the storey. Brother. Tell us of your that was waiting. For people who haven't heard that episode. When Tommy was younger, he he got a boner. And basically freaked out. And he was screaming and his dad had to take him outside with a hose and spray cold water to try and sort out the issue. He had to hose down my boner.



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Thankfully, I don't remember it. So yeah, that's, that's that's a win for me.



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It will come it will come out though. It will be. I'm sure you'll be sitting with the therapist. And that like, I just don't understand. Like, every single time I do the the cold shower method. Yeah. As a wider relax. I just started screaming Yeah, I've got a bone. I wonder what it is. It's



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because I always think about these things. Like, as a as a young parent, there's probably a lot of stuff that isn't vocalised between parents. Like it's a weird thing. You know, I yeah, I guess people are sensitive around saving, you know, a bit creepy talking about their children's, you know, profit path, but it's it's a legit thing that I'm handling and having to deal with. And you literally have to, because he can't he can't just like it's he gets morning wood. That's what he gets. It's It's It's a classic. It's what I get. You know, I taught you get taught most male classic rooster? Yeah.



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How you saying like, you're talking about my body? Like my very close. Like, like you get Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, you're right. We all do and



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and just just to give you some detail you've gotta push it down so he doesn't piece up added he's nappy. It's a it's a bizarre process. Anyway, I didn't know where I was going with that I just needed I felt like I needed to get that off my chest because it was it. Unusual experience. When you first



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What age do you think you're like, I think that the questions that people ask is around like, what do you think you ever get to a point where you're like, I don't like old these different steps like him saying, like, just being able to walk in while you're taking it down? Yeah, like when does that stop?



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You know, I don't? I'm not sure yet. Because he's starting to gauge Hollywood is



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that a police car?



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That was not firing and guys seems like the okay. Yeah, then they're pulling over just near my house. That's exciting.



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Perfect, right.



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Yeah, I'm not too sure yet, because he he started to gauge things but then I like a good you know, a good gag, so I wouldn't mind him like it's I think it's funny kids fun things funny. Like, he looks at Amy's boobs and like, points and laughs I don't know why like, what is he funny? Funny, Sophie, good for buddy buddy. Even looks points to my penis as well. And he laughs and, and sort of goes into try and like if you're in the bathroom try and like he says it's like they are so aware of the things that they shouldn't be doing. But they don't know that they're not meant to be doing. Well. I'm telling you is I the five track is just right behind me. That's



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this could be a bit of an investigation. So Tommy's in St. Kilda right near near near his house. Should I get out and



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go ahead looks? Yeah, I can I can take my soda. Yeah. Alright. So this isn't on the ground. No destination.



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This is huge. So TJ has these big mic attached to his laptop. And so he's got to be very careful that he doesn't disconnect the USB. Yeah.



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That's what's going on. You can hear me. And yeah, all right. Good. I'm getting at the fire truck.



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might be the wind here. I'll block explain what's going on.



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Okay, so I'm just in the in this straight. There's two fire trucks and nothing happened out there in a house. You're in a house across the road and old lady lives there. She's got a big poodle on. But there's no focus they do. They don't just do fine. They can also do if someone's had a heart attack. Well, there's no there's no fire coming from the house. I'm getting back into the car. I can't say anything.



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Yeah, it's probably Yeah, good idea. The way there was an interesting thing, when I was working at the fire brigade in the media department, that's one thing that a lot of people don't know, I think it's a common thing around the world they called first responders. So it also happens with things like seeds and stuff like that. So it's been a whole education thing, where it's like, if you're, if all of a sudden, you know, baby stops breathing and stuff like that, there's a good chance that the fire ease might actually come to your house. And sometimes, because parents are distressed, they freak out and said I you know, excuse I ordered that, you know, like I cold. It's like an Uber, right, sorta this isn't when I audit, but they get frustrated because I think that you know, I have fucked it. But the fire ease have had all the training on resuscitation, and all that.



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They're very capable. So, so I was mentioning that my buddy and I have little boss together. And he's got a rubber ducky. And this thing, and what I noticed on this rubber ducky was that it had a date on it. And I was confused to just who has like, you know, it has like the the ninth 2019 or something like that. And I started sort of doing a bit of research online into why these things have dates on them. And it turns out like they put them on because you need to know how long you've had it for just in case you've kept the rubber ducky for seven years. And the inside of it is absolutely feral because they've got back terrier and they're like growing mould inside and they can harm your child.



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It's a good way as well to get them to a place like to make sure that they're getting continued business of Roberta true. The I think the pillow industry does that as well. There's a hole, you can get pillows that have dates on them. So that you know like apparently you meant to check out your pillows every fucking six weeks.



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Six weeks, every people had the same pillow for years. And I mean, this is what you hear how many who do you know in your world that has gone on I gotta seek from my pillow. There was some mites in it. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, it's very



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I think it's pretty rare. But yeah, on the Reddit if there's if there's something that you check out regularly that other people like I only realised near the end of being in our apartment that we needed to claim the the hater slash a con filter. I it made such a difference like 100% because it was like I'm like this fucking air con is a piece of shit. And then Bray did some googling and we pulled out just this like thick, like black filter. And once we cleaned it, it was like it was like brand new. It's my my dad always pushes us on that. He's like, you guys clean your filter,



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mate. What filter and so that's the only reason I know that it's good. My dad was like, yeah, look at this. Then pulls down the filter and it's just looks like just tie. It looks too thick. I don't even know how he got through it. It's Yeah, it's surprising. I man, I'm just sending you a quick photo to have a look. This so that rabbit hole went down looking at rubber ducky stuff. They found this photo of a of a doc rabbit doc kata and a half to show are the inside. Oh, can you say it? Isn't that's



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what makes me sick. That's making me dry. Right? Can you put on the red? Oh, no. Did you know what that reminds me of? That? It just make it up. I thought about it yesterday when I was drinking water as actually made me Yeah. The photo you took of your the water that you that Bodie drunk out of which one had the the floaty bits?



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Which one? Which one?



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You posted? Yeah, you posted a photo. And it had it was like it you shared a bottle of water. And it was it just had four bits. Do you remember that? He done it



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in the Oh, sorry. Yes. No, no, no, I got it. I got it. He was eating basically burger rings. And then I gave him a bottle of water. And he still had burger rings in his mouth and he obviously doesn't know how to drink properly. So he puts his whole mouth around the 1.25 litre bottle of water and then what was in his mouth was now in the bottle. That's That's hot.



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It is like adding water to things is discussed like that is disgusting. But that reminds me that rubber ducky photo that reminds me of that all



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so as I went down the rubber ducky rabbit hole, and it turns out that the rubber ducky was patented by a sculpture so the original, like traditional shape of a little rubber ducky that you think of at maybe it like a kind of a way you're kind of shooting those rubber ducky off. You know, there's those little ride there's little things we can win toys. Did you ever do that? Yeah, shooting it. Rubber ducky.



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I was when I think the Melbourne show is the Melbourne show one was Yeah. The know my thing about the Melbourne show was the candy. Yes. Show bags. Yeah, yeah. being on the show. Yes, I remember like getting a budget that I could spend. But it was just an opportunity just to have like, I just thought it was permission to eat like chocolate bars for whitelist right. It was like let's be honest, that's what it was was. But now I never got into the anything else like I love to the show. But the only thing that I actually did was would get all the show bags full of the birdie Beatles and The all that sort of stuff.



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Yeah. Yeah, the early bed was a classic. What else was there? Like the warheads one? That's like those. Those really sour?



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Sour? Do you know what birdie Beatles are? Actually I mean, this is very obvious. trivia, but do you know what 30 beats made out of? They



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beats from crunchy note from Violet Crumble violet candles.



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Correct? Yeah,



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right. Yeah. I only I for some reason I was looking. I was reading that only within the last few years. If you asked me two years ago, I wouldn't have been able to tell you that.



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Yeah. I feel like it's it's a fact that you would know from working in FM radio Yeah, true. Like it's like oh geez thing there's another one that guys can just imagine the the digital manager saying Josh? Just just got a great storey on the birdie Beatles and we're getting one sent from the PR team if you can just take a few photos. Yeah that up today. Yeah, I think that's gonna go really well on Facebook. Well,



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this is a classic radio segue because I was looking at I was thinking about the patrons of rubber ducky and I was like okay, that's a basic it's a basic thing that money people have either used or you know purchased or seen and talked about Yeah, and so I was like okay what else what other Titans out there that are that are and I went weed I always got weed if I'm if I'm looking at things just to say how we how we people do get and I finally saw it or I can you be called you'd like this? It's called free Payton's online.com and it's basically there's a whole section dedicated to crazy patents. And these are legitimate like they've got the paint numbers it looks like a spreadsheet. It's got left hand side Peyton number so you get to see they just a bunch of random numbers and then the title of the paper, Peyton and the summary. So tell me which one does



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it give you any diagrams and stuff like that as well? Can you say any visual



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you can't see any visuals which is a bit annoying, but I do describe the product and they've actually put a hapa link through on the patent number that takes you to like the legitimate patent area so gives you the inventors name, the application number publication date, filing date and then



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like that use the word hyperlink is what I felt like I was in like doing my webmaster says



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they give you they give you like the attorney agent or firm who launched the patent that



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maybe we could get one of them on our podcast maybe man yet give us okay what's what's your favourite painting?



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So, there is this one electrified tablecloth and I click through and electric electrified tablecloth for preventing crawling insects from granted gaining access to consumers food or drink comprise cloth formed of electrical insulted yeah sorry, insulated material which has at least one pair of parallel electrical conductive strips secured to the edge it goes on in more detail but basically



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you just have to deal with a shock every time you pick up before



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this is this is a way to try sequel lawn mower this this is like legit a try these



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the ones that they've led with is this site specifically designed for pointing out the weed one no



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this is actually what you found segment on their site. So this one a try single frame providing basic support for the pedal operated mower pedal pedals turning forward sprocket for providing locomotion and so just some bloke is just thought okay, let's do that. Or this one smokers had a hat with an air intake which filters and then expels the air looks pretty much like wearing the exhaust hood for a stove on your head.



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That's what the actually that's a really good idea. Well, because you could have smokers could then smoke because that's an issue in Europe is just like today or yesterday sorry I was wanting to eat inside because it was really windy and then I saw a guy smoking inside so I was like not all eight outside because I don't want to be eating but if he had a smokers hat that just took away all of that smoke that'd be perk



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I found this one this maybe you would use this started spectacles Can you guess what that is?



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stats stats but I'm guessing it is I reckon it is glasses yes that also allows you if you're working on a work site to find where the studies in a wall



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nap I glasses that don't need a frame because they attached to body piercings on the face that was that was off that's the explanation of this range of the actual large amount of frameless glass were simply attaching to body piercing studs design consisting of Addlestone Merrick see clip fix fixedly attached to the one distil end of metal arm say this is the thing they like. There has been a lot of thought into these and money.



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So I guess I can't just because it some some of these are a bit dumb. They need to be found out what they're saying. Like if it's a if it's a legal document. I wonder if there's a you want it to sound legit. You want to be specific? What about all these rules around?



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What about thinking? The thing I read the thing that fascinates me about these are that to actually come up with an idea and then go and Peyton to take costs money time. And a belief that you've come across something that is great, and could be used by people and you don't want your ideas stolen? is essentially what a patient is.



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You get a lot of wackos. You get so many people who it's like in their backyard creating shit and being like, you know what this faction tries to call Mauer going to make sure that this company doesn't steal. Yeah, like it's pretty. I feel like it lends itself. I'm sure there's people who have spent their livelihood inventing stuff and getting patents for for the things I might



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What about a documentary series that explores a different people's storeys of their patent, their storey behind their patent. And yeah, I love working title. Be patient. You gotta be patient. What's happening around the patient, I think the working title,



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somebody else, some people love puns. Others don't love puns. I love puns. So you always get me with the pilot. I'm always wary that some people on into Yeah. Micro people's head, especially because of the word is quite specific already.



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But I mean, this side



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of you saying how they spell patient?



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I yeah, yeah. Well, this site like we could find this guy, hundred percent, it gives you the like, the legal firm, they use their full name. And you can hardly find these people.



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I think we should get at least one person who's invented something. We should get an inventor in the US.



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And he invented there for the podcast. I mean, we've had, like the guys from quad lock their inventors.



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Yes. And they've also got, and they've also got patents. Yeah, but I never I can never remember if its patents or patents.



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I just like the thought of someone who hasn't quite got it across the line that has put their put their everything into it. And you know that I mean, it's just a there's, there's not a happy ending, but maybe they will use it. Andy, you don't know, maybe there was a silver lining there. They failed patient.



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Yeah, I mean, the it's a big issue with them, they call them patent trolls, trolls. In specifically technology, where companies or individuals will get patents for specific things like for instance, like a marketplace. So it could be the patient could be the transaction of on a website, blah, blah, blah, like pretty broad type of shit. And then they go out, and they sue all of these companies, against this patients. And so they so I know that companies like in Votto have had these patent trolls where they've had to go to the US, and they end up having to set up. I don't know what the deal was specifically within Votto because a private company, yeah, but a lot of these companies have to end up, you know, all of it was a big case where it was covering, like, all the different stock, like basically, if you were a stock website, if you sold stock. These patent trolls came after every single one of them shit. And I think that, like, that's not that can't be good for innovation. Like, if the design of having a patient is to help innovation and to help like it. For me, it just makes it really hard for people to do anything because it's like, it's like the be the equivalent of saying, if you have a podcast idea, you can write it on a website. And then if someone else wants to use that idea, they have to pay for it. Yeah. Like it's I feel like it gives too much credit. And maybe I'm missing the point we should ask. Robbie Ward what he thinks from quad lock, but I feel like there's a lot of naked to



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I don't know if this falls into the patent category, but your mate who design that T shirt that was a Rubik's Cube melting.



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Was that your friend? Well, so that was that was a tried. I tried to Glenn Jones. Yeah. So he, he made a T shirt. There was a Rubik's cube that was melting. And it went pretty big. He started off on thread lyst and became one of the biggest sort of illustrators on there. But he he did this robot Rubik's Cube t shirt. And it got on to the big bang theory, which which is the main gig. What's the guy's name? Show me. Yeah, yeah.



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Tell him some Shellman. Yeah, something sh



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I shall.



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Shelton Shelly



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Shelton. Thank you. Shelton. actually wore it on an episode anyway. Rubik's Cube got in contact with him. And basic like a Satanist basically, and said you can't be you can't use a Rubik's Cube. And so they ended up having a deal where he got to use it like they licenced it or whatever for like, he was maybe 12 months. Yeah. And then, after 12 months in the contract, what basically happened was, after 12 months, he was no longer allowed to use it. But it also gave them permission to use it. So if you go to a conference, you'll see official Rubik's Cube people with a melted Rubik's Cube t shirt. It looks exactly the same. It's Glenn's that's actually made by Rubik's cube and they sell it now as an official thing.



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The rich get richer, though, is that crazier? That's



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it this is on a similar similar sort of vein got a life trap from Phil is listen to the show. estates. Phil says bingo was on episode 174. When you talked about Josh his domain habit well alive trap that I got me a couple of years ago was searching on GoDaddy for an unclaimed domain. I was searching for one for my auntie and didn't end up registering it not not. A week later, I go back to register it and go daddy daddy had registered it plus place to you can purchase this domain shitty website on it. Yeah, fuck you go daddy. Is this has happened to me as well. Yeah. So that's why I think that I always get



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trigger happy. As soon as I have searched on GoDaddy, it's a that I get it now or expect it to be gone. I've been told about this. I was at a conference. And as much as the conference was a life trap in itself, because they tried to sell you a $30,000 course. They also gave me the advice that if you're searching, they put these bots that they This is the way they sold it. There's, there's bots that crawl that



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long ago was



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this was went to this? No, it was in Sydney. So it would have been 20 2015 2016. And, and how did you end up getting free and there was some good speakers there. And they were talking about you know, marketing sales, you know, scaling your business and, and so it was interesting, and it was free. But it was you know, hard selling Okay, up the back this people taking your registration now. limited time, you know, getting getting soon. And then you know, I gave them my number when you get there. And then you get a call the next day fucking 6am



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Jason Fox was telling me about this because I was asking him about all of these types of things. He was saying that they have plants in the audience so that when was something going on with the fire? Is he looking over interest? Is everything okay? I've got I live in one of those apartment blocks where there's a gate that



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pretty much goes from one street to the next. So the front of my property is one street and then the back is it. So people cut through here all the time. And I'm sitting in my car, and some bloke to some random blog that doesn't live in my apartment block just cut through. I was just given in the down now.



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Yeah, look look serious. But I know Jason was saying that there's, there's plants in the, in the audience so that when they say, you know, there's only 50 spots or you know, 10 spots, you know, get them in 321 that all of those people get up and run and because it creates a sense that it's in need and it like actually gets people up and they all like you know, sheeple. Yeah, we'll just follow.



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Yeah. Gary Vee was talking in Melbourne at this conference in my mate went to see him. And he said, he said that Gary came on last. That was to make sure that everyone hang around so that they could sell really hard. My mind said he saw he reckons this guy made 300 grand in 10 minutes by getting signups. But then Gary Vee came out on stage, and referenced the fact that they're all just hard selling. And so he made a joke about it, which is Yeah, it's, it's a classic, or my work. my homework for Reddit today is to put the, the rubber ducky that's cut in half that you nearly vomited during the show. So you can check that out reddit.com forward slash, forward slash the daily talk show



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is a short URL that will, I think will eventually get a custom some sort of custom URL, but until then, I think that people can work it out. It's a daily talk show it's only what we've got two more episodes after this. What are we at to a three yet more episodes until we will be live in the US. please jump on. Read it as TJ mentioned, and feel free to just chuck shut up there because it is a good up to get feedback and also topics for the show as well. So we'll see you tomorrow, guys. See you guys.

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