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Quote Official sale of MT.Gox database: personal details for almost all Bitcoin users.



I am selling all data obtained in recently MT. Gox database hack. File is ~20gb and contains full personal information of all clients in gox system, including passport scan. This document will never be elsewhere published by us. Selling it one or two times to make up personal loses from gox closure. Asking 100BTC for entire document. Willing to sell it in pieces, 10BTC for 2gb of data.



I will verify that I am in possesion of this data before you make purchase. Interested buyers can contact me and I will send you all information contained in file about you personally. No one contact asking for parts of the file for free/me to send file before payment.

I hate those blackhats ~.~



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Quote from: SmokeTooMuch on March 11, 2014, 05:01:08 PM

Quote Mt. Gox database sale: steps to remove yourself from dump before sales.



Most around here know we are selling gox customer info. Many have contact us requesting to pay to have their data removed before we sell. We are doing this for a cost of 0.25 BTC per person removed. We have already sold and release 20% of data to 2 buyers, so if you are apart of that it's too late for you.



We are release the rest of this data to our buyers sometime this week, so after that happens it is too late for everyone who has not been removed already.



1) Email [...] with the email you used with mtgox.

2) I will check file already sold, if you are not part of that I will send you unique bitcoin address. If you don't get response it means your data has already been sold in first batch or we have finalized sale of all data.

3) After you have sent .25 bitcoin payment, email us again to inform us of this.

4) Thats all, we will delete your personal data and passport scan from all copies of database.



DO NOT email asking to do this for cheaper unless you are doing 10+ accounts at once. Also do not email us asking to confirm what information we have about you. If gox had it, we have it, and as you can read on boards we have confirmed possession of this dump for many people. We let you use our same email for this as all other gox hack communication so you know we are same people. Doing this things will cause us to ignore all further message from you.



nanashi

Quote Also do not email us asking to confirm what information we have about you. Interesting how this is the opposite of what he said before.



Afaik nobody has proven to be in possession of such data yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I'm starting to think this is all a scam.

new info:Interesting how this is the opposite of what he said before.Afaik nobody has proven to be in possession of such data yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).I'm starting to think this is all a scam.

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Quote from: SmokeTooMuch on March 18, 2014, 11:09:18 PM Quote 04:37 <nanashi___> email change to [...]. use pgp from original hack posts to confirm i am same person. cost is 0.35 bitcoins for full perm data delete

04:37 <nanashi___> http://[...] use public pgp from there or any original hack posts to confirm its me

04:38 <LennyBruce> How do I know my data wasn't part of the piece of the file you have already sold?

04:38 <nanashi___> if you don't start getting spam/phishing emails yet, you probably not part of the piece sold. email me with address and i check sold file.

04:38 <nanashi___> if your data is not part, i send you bitcoin address and perminantly delete your data after payment recieved.

04:38 <nanashi___> [...] only, do not use old address.

04:39 <nanashi___> use same pgp to confim it me. i delete everything including passport scans and bank info.

04:40 <gonzop> nanashi is your group responsible for the new login on mtgox.com?

04:40 <nanashi___> we did not do mtgox.com login. they still control mtgox.com as far as i know

04:40 <gonzop> We're supposed to trust the guy who stole the DB and sold them?

04:40 <nanashi___> don't care. just responding. if i wanted to control mtgox.com i probably could.

04:40 <gonzop> Ok so it's safe to login to Mt Gox?

04:41 <nanashi___> yes as long as you trust frenchman who stole 951,116 btc. he probably had to put this up for legal reason

04:42 <MagicalTux> Nothing was stolen by me. Time will tell the full story. On the other hand you are exorting people after stealing our customer's info. You are probably the hacker who stoll all our Bitcoins in the first place.

04:42 <nanashi___> bla bla bla bla

04:42 <nanashi___> yes I stole one billion dollars and now am sticking around to sell data dump for peanuts

04:42 <nanashi___> ps they were not your bitcoins, they your customers

04:43 <MagicalTux> they're

04:43 <nanashi___> two people commit suicide already because of your fraud and you joke. you care?

04:43 <MagicalTux> How many people will kill themselves because of what you are doing?

04:43 <nanashi___> few poeple kill themself because of viagra spam. you ruined many people

04:44 <MagicalTux> Lots of people kill themselves because of identity theft, which is happening with the data you are selling.

04:44 <nanashi___> this is serious? if you are so concerned next time protect customer info better. why you even keep passport scans on server?

04:44 <nanashi___> if not for us someone else would have done exact same

04:44 <nanashi___> at least we give people honest chance to have data deleted before sale

04:44 <gonzop> nanashi is it too late to have my information removed before you sell the database?

04:45 <nanashi___> gonzop maybe not. have sold 10% of dump and am waiting until thur/20 to sell rest while allow people to pay to be removed

04:45 <MagicalTux> Pure extortion. I can't wait until they catch you.

04:45 <nanashi___> can't wait to see you behind bars mark. you rob one million people.

04:45 <MagicalTux> I didn't rob anyone. You are a criminal.

04:45 <nanashi___> maybe but i need sell this data to feed my family. you took food from their mouth like thousand other when you stole our bitcoins

04:46 <MagicalTux> You are a scumbag.

04:46 <nanashi___> what does that make you?

Thoughts? Clearly the bitcointalk nanashi___ isn't the real one, but has anyone tried to contact the real nanashi___? Could he prove possession of Mt. Gox user data?



P.S.: I don't even know whether these chat logs are real or not.

Thoughts? Clearly the bitcointalk nanashi___ isn't the real one, but has anyone tried to contact the real nanashi___? Could he prove possession of Mt. Gox user data?P.S.: I don't even know whether these chat logs are real or not. I won't post the link to the source or his email address, but apparently nanashi___ is selling the Mt. Gox user database:I hate those blackhats ~.~ 2009-12-10 | I'm using GPG, Date Registered:| I'm using GPG, pm me for my public key. | Bitcoin on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc

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LegendaryActivity: 875Merit: 1014 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 07:52:04 PM #4 Well, someone could try contacting him via an email including a tracking pixel of some sort, but I doubt that would bring up any useful information (proxy, vpn, not loading pictures).



He was using an email from freemail.hu, so maybe someone could try to contact them and close his mail account or maybe hand over the ip records to law enforcement, but then again, I don't think this will have any real effect.



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DonatorLegendaryActivity: 2604Merit: 2671Shitcoin Minimalist Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:01:51 PM #6 Quote from: SmokeTooMuch on March 09, 2014, 07:24:15 PM Quote Official sale of MT.Gox database: personal details for almost all Bitcoin users.



I am selling all data obtained in recently MT. Gox database hack. File is ~20gb and contains full personal information of all clients in gox system, including passport scan. This document will never be elsewhere published by us. Selling it one or two times to make up personal loses from gox closure. Asking 100BTC for entire document. Willing to sell it in pieces, 10BTC for 2gb of data.



I will verify that I am in possesion of this data before you make purchase. Interested buyers can contact me and I will send you all information contained in file about you personally. No one contact asking for parts of the file for free/me to send file before payment. Seriously, does anyone believe that this kind of data is worth anywhere near 100 BTC? All free men, wherever they may live, can use Bitcoin, and, therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words "Ich bin ein Bitcoiner!"

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:09:12 PM #9 Quote from: qwk on March 09, 2014, 08:01:51 PM Seriously, does anyone believe that this kind of data is worth anywhere near 100 BTC?



For crime and exploitation? Sure, because, each of these people is in a traumatized state, due to megathefts of their coin.



They should be protected, but, its not like my country the USA actually protects people, so, they probably will continue to be dickless shits, persecuting btc and this will only get worse. In fact, I would suspect they would front run the crime so as to "fight" that crime. I am getting more and more pissed as this drags on. For crime and exploitation? Sure, because, each of these people is in a traumatized state, due to megathefts of their coin.They should be protected, but, its not like my country the USA actually protects people, so, they probably will continue to be dickless shits, persecuting btc and this will only get worse. In fact, I would suspect they would front run the crime so as to "fight" that crime. I am getting more and more pissed as this drags on. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:12:56 PM #10 Quote from: V4Vendettas on March 09, 2014, 08:02:41 PM



Going to be spending a lot of time researching this because I really never expected to be at such high risk of identity theft.



Again thanks Mark its been a blast

So now I have to go find a way of protecting myself from what can only be called Lifetime Gox membership.Going to be spending a lot of time researching this because I really never expected to be at such high risk of identity theft.Again thanks Mark its been a blast

Nobody wants to say "Exchanges can't gather personal data" because: "Laundering"



But, if you continually FAIL TO CATCH LAUNDROMATS, then how can you allow the regular people to be f'ed over?



They pretend to pursue "Laundry of Money" and fail collosally at that. They fail epically at that. And yet, they continue to screw the everyday world citizen, in spite of their massive inability to stop black markets.



In short, the conspiracy is that, they LIKE black markets just as they are. Nobody wants to say "Exchanges can't gather personal data" because: "Laundering"But, if you continually FAIL TO CATCH LAUNDROMATS, then how can you allow the regular people to be f'ed over?They pretend to pursue "Laundry of Money" and fail collosally at that. They fail epically at that. And yet, they continue to screw the everyday world citizen, in spite of their massive inability to stop black markets.In short, the conspiracy is that, they LIKE black markets just as they are. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:35:12 PM #17 Quote from: V4Vendettas on March 09, 2014, 08:29:51 PM So lets assume for a second that Gox recover at least something and give us back a %. We are now possibly in a race with anyone that holds all our personal details ?



Crime scene despoliation combined with fog of war and multiple parties under LEO gag orders while none of the lawyers or LEOS know shit about tech. Yes, it's that bad.



Too bad the "race" is being held up under law enforcer order. Kinda like a mugging where the cop makes sure the mugger can run. Naturally you wonder if the cop has a deal with the mugger.



Point is: People hate being mugged. It's fuckin rude. Also, cops who protect muggers, are rude x2. Crime scene despoliation combined with fog of war and multiple parties under LEO gag orders while none of the lawyers or LEOS know shit about tech. Yes, it's that bad.Too bad the "race" is being held up under law enforcer order. Kinda like a mugging where the cop makes sure the mugger can run. Naturally you wonder if the cop has a deal with the mugger.Point is: People hate being mugged. It's fuckin rude. Also, cops who protect muggers, are rude x2. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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LegendaryActivity: 1204Merit: 1002 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:39:48 PM #19 My advice for all who were involved in mtgox



change your ID/passport tomorrow!



It might cost you something but I think it's worth it!





P.S. if someone could scam this guy would be nice! VAL GLI BMF KotD

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:42:45 PM #21 Probably these keys can be analyzed as to age and travel through IP network.



edit



Also bear in mind SR ongoing law process means: Some of the Goxxed are like noncom innocents sitting next to some SR account that LEOs are after.



So again, they are the prime frontrun suspects of the data, unless they already KNOW the data on their SR targets. In any case, non combatants often get blown to shit when the cops are pursuing "their man". Do we see them NOT engaging in high speed change on TV? No, they will always opt for high speed chase, so, innocents better watch the fuck out. You WISH this was Judge Dredd, but no, not as ethical as him. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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Full MemberActivity: 182Merit: 100 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM #22 I came late to the MtGox party and fortunately did not lose a lot and my heartfelt feeling go out to those that did, This news is not good, so now my passport, my bank details and my home address is now in the hands of hackers and they are trying to sell that info. I'm fucking furious. Karpeles needs to pay for this big time. post the hackers email address, this need to go to Interpol.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 08:50:28 PM #24 Quote from: ozzymax on March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM

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this need to go to Interpol.



Although that company was babysat by Nazis, they might still do some good. Let's see if any police on Earth, A: Have tech skill (ANSWER: no.) or B: Have ethics to protect the innocents. I'm guessing they see kids as innocents, they are good at chasing after lost children, haha, though they fail in that black market as well.



Sad, not one decent policeman left on Earth who has the balls to do anything right, in the right moment. Sad day for Earthlings. Although that company was babysat by Nazis, they might still do some good. Let's see if any police on Earth, A: Have tech skill (ANSWER: no.) or B: Have ethics to protect the innocents. I'm guessing they see kids as innocents, they are good at chasing after lost children, haha, though they fail in that black market as well.Sad, not one decent policeman left on Earth who has the balls to do anything right, in the right moment. Sad day for Earthlings. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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MemberActivity: 98Merit: 10 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 09:06:16 PM #31 It's been two days that this message has been around, probably a scammer I think. BTC ✡ BTC Defeat jihad, support Israel against terror - כל הכבוד לצה"ל BTC ✡ BTC

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http://blog.magicaltux.net/2014/03/09/mtgox-2014-hack-database-revealed-live-from-mark-karpeless-reddit-account/



Included in this download you will find relevant database dumps, csv exports, specialized tools, and some highlighted summaries compiled from data. Keeping in line with fucking Gox alone, no user database dumps have been included.





I think they are some sort of good guys you might want to check this shit out!Included in this download you will find relevant database dumps, csv exports, specialized tools, and some highlighted summaries compiled from data. Keeping in line with fucking Gox alone,I think they are some sort of good guys VAL GLI BMF KotD

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 09:07:40 PM #33 Quote from: halinyo on March 09, 2014, 08:57:28 PM It will still affect many!!! Imagine the volume of bitcoin from MTgox...

Well we will see. but I think this crypto currency thing start to be a mess in the azz...



Anyway, massive crime and fraud is traditionally how markets operate, so if this is a moment for cryptocoin, I doubt there is enough guts among BTC holders or LEO or BOTH to do anything about it. If they stay silent and ignore that carnage, they will have great vectors for further cointhefts. It's not a zero sum game yet, but this is 10% of coins lost into Gox hole, so, BTC can take a few more total disasters like this, probably, and still serve as the backbone of cryptocoin. The attractors to black markets and also nations, are quite impressive.



Notice that Euronote and Dollar are bloodlines for far far more black market $$$ than cryptocoin, so, this is kinda also about turf war, and in turf war, the innocent regular-people in the turf, are just customers, johns, dupes, etc. I mean in terms of how gangsters and politicians think. Anyway, massive crime and fraud is traditionally how markets operate, so if this is a moment for cryptocoin, I doubt there is enough guts among BTC holders or LEO or BOTH to do anything about it. If they stay silent and ignore that carnage, they will have great vectors for further cointhefts. It's not a zero sum game yet, but this is 10% of coins lost into Gox hole, so, BTC can take a few more total disasters like this, probably, and still serve as the backbone of cryptocoin. The attractors to black markets and also nations, are quite impressive.Notice that Euronote and Dollar are bloodlines for far far more black market $$$ than cryptocoin, so, this is kinda also about turf war, and in turf war, the innocent regular-people in the turf, are just customers, johns, dupes, etc. I mean in terms of how gangsters and politicians think. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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Sr. MemberActivity: 321Merit: 250 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 09:33:03 PM #38 hey y'all. When I was getting into bitcoin I noticed that mtgox and all other exchanges wanted all that personal info. I said fuck no. no way in hell. To me, this was the antithesis of what bitcoin is supposed to stand for. So I spent the extra time, effort and travel to obtain bitcoin person to person, with no records. I've always been happy about that decision, but now I'm extra glad.



Keep in mind that coinbase and other exchanges also require personal info. If you have an account on any of those, I would recommend closing it immediately and requesting by phone, email and snail mail that they expunge all your personal data from their servers and provide you written confirmation that they have done so.



And next time, buy locally. Even if it means a little hassle.



oh, and one fun idea I have if there is a bitcoin atm in your area. Wear gloves and a mask when using the atm. :-) Psst!! Wanna make bitcoin unstoppable? Why the Only Real Way to Buy Bitcoins Is on the Streets . Avoid banks and centralized exchanges. Buy/Sell coins locally. Meet other bitcoiners and develop your network. Try localbitcoins.com or find or start a buttonwood / satoshi square in your area. Pass it on!

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LegendaryActivity: 1204Merit: 1002 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 09, 2014, 09:35:18 PM #40 Quote from: btc4ever on March 09, 2014, 09:33:03 PM hey y'all. When I was getting into bitcoin I noticed that mtgox and all other exchanges wanted all that personal info. I said fuck no. no way in hell. To me, this was the antithesis of what bitcoin is supposed to stand for. So I spent the extra time, effort and travel to obtain bitcoin person to person, with no records. I've always been happy about that decision, but now I'm extra glad.



Keep in mind that coinbase and other exchanges also require personal info. If you have an account on any of those, I would recommend closing it immediately and requesting by phone, email and snail mail that they expunge all your personal data from their servers and provide you written confirmation that they have done so.



And next time, buy locally. Even if it means a little hassle.



oh, and one fun idea I have if there is a bitcoin atm in your area. Wear gloves and a mask when using the atm. :-)



I do this at normal ATM Wear gloves and a mask when using the atm I do this at normal ATM VAL GLI BMF KotD

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LegendaryActivity: 1218Merit: 1011Monero Evangelist Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 03:04:10 AM #53 Real cybercrime scene doesn't care about this dump.



Because it contains no payment data, no extras e.g. user accounts like mail accounts to account holder or security questions, most people in database are poor, holders are distributed over the whole world (no country or region targeting/schemes possible), 70% of the accounts are unverified so they contain invalid or no data records, wrong demography/peergroup in dump: no targets/victims like: senior citizen, tech unsavy old people, foreign people, bad educated people, just: male, 20-40 year old nerds, with tech security, knowledge of most basics scams/schemes, 24/7 online checking all banking/wallet accounts ...



Worthless. Price is ludicrous anyway.



Only phishing and spam mail senders will add email addresses to their databases.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AM #54 Quote from: dewdeded on March 10, 2014, 03:04:10 AM Real cybercrime scene doesn't care about this dump.



Because it contains no payment data, no extras e.g. user accounts like mail accounts to account holder or security questions, most people in database are poor, holders are distributed over the whole world (no country or region targeting/schemes possible), 70% of the accounts are unverified so they contain invalid or no data records, wrong demography/peergroup in dump: no targets/victims like: senior citizen, tech unsavy old people, foreign people, bad educated people, just: male, 20-40 year old nerds, with tech security, knowledge of most basics scams/schemes, 24/7 online checking all banking/wallet accounts ...



Worthless. Price is ludicrous anyway.



Only phishing and spam mail senders will add email addresses to their databases.



^^^ Good knowledge of modern crime data valuations. Thanks. Type more about how fucked the world is, I myself enjoy truth though it very painful to hear. ^^^ Good knowledge of modern crime data valuations. Thanks. Type more about how fucked the world is, I myself enjoy truth though it very painful to hear. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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NewbieActivity: 14Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 12:24:47 PM #56 This has been a major concern for me since I started dealing with the exchanges: nobody knows what standards they use in protecting user-supplied documents.



Some of the people running the exchanges are known by name only, some not even by that. Just because somebody has some rudimentary coding skills and opens a web site, it is not enough for me to trust him with my personal documents.



If I send him money, I am hoping that in 2-3 days I am done with the transaction. With documents, this can be an engagement written in hell for eternity. Not only you never know if they follow through on your request to destroy the documents when the time comes, in a matter of fact they can't - they must keep them for LE if the need ever arises. Do they encrypt the files? to they keep it off site? we will never know.





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NewbieActivity: 21Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 02:21:52 PM #57 He doesn't know what he's doing.

He's turning himself from the victim's side to the Gox's side where no one will give any mercy.



It doesn't cost us too much to crowd fund and find the seller, then the buyers when the seller is caught.

When this gets picked up by the media to piss off every investors to find the seller, 100BTC? too easy.



Too bad he can't ask us to donate BTC to promise to discard data as there is no way to prove it's gone.

Not sure how putting his head out there for hunt for just 100 BTC is good for his life against... lots of people out there with lots of money.

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NewbieActivity: 21Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 03:33:53 PM #59 Since there are plenty of investors who are still not aware of this, we report this to media journalists that we know and pretty please them to write an article up, which isn't bad for them to get attention on their article which has a chance to get a followup when the guy is caught for a nice incentive. We hire a professional investigator team with crowd funding and... good luck to the seller (and potentially the buyers).



Gox will be more than happy to help find the sellers to disclose any hack attempt evidences they have.

It would be of our best interest to act quick.



Anyone with good knowledge in the investigation field, I wish them to come out and take a lead.



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NewbieActivity: 17Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 03:57:14 PM #60 Quote from: SmokeTooMuch on March 09, 2014, 07:24:15 PM



Quote Official sale of MT.Gox database: personal details for almost all Bitcoin users.



I am selling all data obtained in recently MT. Gox database hack. File is ~20gb and contains full personal information of all clients in gox system, including passport scan. This document will never be elsewhere published by us. Selling it one or two times to make up personal loses from gox closure. Asking 100BTC for entire document. Willing to sell it in pieces, 10BTC for 2gb of data.



I will verify that I am in possesion of this data before you make purchase. Interested buyers can contact me and I will send you all information contained in file about you personally. No one contact asking for parts of the file for free/me to send file before payment.

I hate those blackhats ~.~

I won't post the link to the source or his email address, but apparently nanashi___ is selling the Mt. Gox user database:I hate those blackhats ~.~

He's going to need that 100BTC to keep himself safe & out of prison. He's going to need that 100BTC to keep himself safe & out of prison.

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NewbieActivity: 17Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 04:04:25 PM #61 Quote from: ozzymax on March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM I came late to the MtGox party and fortunately did not lose a lot and my heartfelt feeling go out to those that did, This news is not good, so now my passport, my bank details and my home address is now in the hands of hackers and they are trying to sell that info. I'm fucking furious. Karpeles needs to pay for this big time. post the hackers email address, this need to go to Interpol.



It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.



So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims. It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

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Hero MemberActivity: 969Merit: 500 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 04:19:52 PM #62 Quote from: glendower on March 10, 2014, 04:04:25 PM Quote from: ozzymax on March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM I came late to the MtGox party and fortunately did not lose a lot and my heartfelt feeling go out to those that did, This news is not good, so now my passport, my bank details and my home address is now in the hands of hackers and they are trying to sell that info. I'm fucking furious. Karpeles needs to pay for this big time. post the hackers email address, this need to go to Interpol.



It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.



So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.



Quote In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation. Ever heard of gross negligence? It is a criminal offence. Mark just didn't give a fuck about security. All he cared was his stupid Bitcoin Cafe (so that this fat fuck doesn't even have to leave the building to get his Frappuccino).



What about a bank manager who doesn't lock the safe and leaves the door open at night for a year? Would you say it wasn't his fault if the save is empty after a year. Mark did exactly the same thing. It is 100% his fault. It was his responsibility to keep the files/data save. He probably never even thought about encrypting the passport scans.Ever heard of gross negligence? It is a criminal offence. Mark just didn't give a fuck about security. All he cared was his stupid Bitcoin Cafe (so that this fat fuck doesn't even have to leave the building to get his Frappuccino).What about a bank manager who doesn't lock the safe and leaves the door open at night for a year? Would you say it wasn't his fault if the save is empty after a year. Mark did exactly the same thing.

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Full MemberActivity: 140Merit: 100 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 04:25:34 PM #63 Quote from: glendower on March 10, 2014, 04:04:25 PM Quote from: ozzymax on March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM I came late to the MtGox party and fortunately did not lose a lot and my heartfelt feeling go out to those that did, This news is not good, so now my passport, my bank details and my home address is now in the hands of hackers and they are trying to sell that info. I'm fucking furious. Karpeles needs to pay for this big time. post the hackers email address, this need to go to Interpol.



It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.



So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

How do you know Karpeles isn't the seller??



How do you know Karpeles isn't the seller?? 1. Buy a sword.

2. Name it Kindness.

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Full MemberActivity: 182Merit: 100 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 04:28:21 PM #64 Quote from: glendower on March 10, 2014, 04:04:25 PM Quote from: ozzymax on March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM I came late to the MtGox party and fortunately did not lose a lot and my heartfelt feeling go out to those that did, This news is not good, so now my passport, my bank details and my home address is now in the hands of hackers and they are trying to sell that info. I'm fucking furious. Karpeles needs to pay for this big time. post the hackers email address, this need to go to Interpol.



It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.



So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

How much is Mark paying you to Shill the forums?



or are you delusional "it's not Karpeles fault" how old are you kid? How much is Mark paying you to Shill the forums?or are you delusional "it's not Karpeles fault" how old are you kid?

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LegendaryActivity: 1050Merit: 1000 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 04:38:58 PM #65 Quote from: glendower on March 10, 2014, 04:04:25 PM Quote from: ozzymax on March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM I came late to the MtGox party and fortunately did not lose a lot and my heartfelt feeling go out to those that did, This news is not good, so now my passport, my bank details and my home address is now in the hands of hackers and they are trying to sell that info. I'm fucking furious. Karpeles needs to pay for this big time. post the hackers email address, this need to go to Interpol.



It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.



So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

What do you mean Karpeles is not at fault? if he secured his business correctly we wouldn't be in this situation. He is 100% at fault more than anyone else, i also think he could be the mastermind behind all this. What do you mean Karpeles is not at fault? if he secured his business correctly we wouldn't be in this situation. He is 100% at fault more than anyone else, i also think he could be the mastermind behind all this.

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LegendaryActivity: 875Merit: 1014 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 07:21:33 PM #69 Quote from: serotin on March 10, 2014, 06:26:09 PM i already brough this and its legit.

i am willing to re-sell it to someone interesed.

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Sure, someone who joined late 2013 invested ~65.000 USD worth of bitcoins to buy that. Oh, and would you look at that, that very same person claiming to have bought the file for the incredible price of 100 BTC also has a very trustworthy trust rating of "-4: -1 / +0(0)".



Well, Mr. I-will-resell-it-and-will-definitely-not-scam-you, why don't you prove that the database is in your possesion OR that the sell offer from nanashi___ was infact a legit one, because until now I haven't heard anyone who can confirm that. Sure, someone who joined late 2013 invested ~65.000 USD worth of bitcoins to buy that. Oh, and would you look at that, that very same person claiming to have bought the file for the incredible price of 100 BTC also has a very trustworthy trust rating of "-4: -1 / +0(0)".Well, Mr. I-will-resell-it-and-will-definitely-not-scam-you, why don't you prove that the database is in your possesion OR that the sell offer from nanashi___ was infact a legit one, because until now I haven't heard anyone who can confirm that. 2009-12-10 | I'm using GPG, Date Registered:| I'm using GPG, pm me for my public key. | Bitcoin on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc

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Sr. MemberActivity: 364Merit: 250American1973 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 07:23:29 PM #70 ^^^ Good response to obvious douchebag.



One thing to consider too, is that MK is at this point, so sleazy that he would probably even sell it or use it himself as a bargaining chip, to get out from under whatever rock he lives under these days. "Windows XP: End the Cyberwar, Open the Code Now!" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411978/pg1 Check out my prescient ATS thread from 2008:

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Sr. MemberActivity: 504Merit: 250 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 07:33:43 PM #72 From another thread, but relevant here:



Another thing: Visited my local cops today. According to them, having personal information stolen is not identity theft -- yet. I have to wait until I suspect someone using my identity by getting bills for stuff I didn't buy. WTF???



I then went to my municipal office to null my passport and order a new one. Cost me 130$. Apparently fingerprint scans are now mandatory together with a coloured flashing light passport photo. Can only guess what Interpol is going to use that for.....



For sure my fingerprint data will get stolen from some public office at some point when criminals discover that they need fingerprints together with stolen passports.



Last I went to my bank to ask them if an IBAN could be used fraudelent and if I should block it some how. she told me that couldn't be done, then I asked if my ordinary account number and card number could be found through phone phishing banks from my IBAN only? She called me back after an hour and suggested that I better cancel my CC also!!



She did admit that KYC actually is a security risk for all customers in hacking cases like this of private businesses. Even if it prevents money laundering and tax evasion.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gonzalez



Albert Gonzalez (born 1981) is an American computer hacker and computer criminal who is accused of masterminding the combined credit card theft and subsequent reselling of more than 170 million card and ATM numbers from 2005 through 2007the biggest such fraud in history. ... On March 25, 2010, Gonzalez was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison.



Is that worth 100 BTC...



And yes, KYC is not good for customers at all, KYC is not there to protect the CUSTOMER ID theft in this order of magnitude, and many US citizens involved, probably means FBI (and some other 3 letter agencies) involvement. If caught, and chances are good, this means extradition to the U.S. and a 20 yrs plus sentence....Is that worth 100 BTC...And yes, KYC is not good for customers at all, KYC is not there to protect the CUSTOMER Truth is the new hatespeech.

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MemberActivity: 112Merit: 10Minning powa Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 07:59:44 PM #74 Quote from: SmokeTooMuch on March 10, 2014, 07:21:33 PM Quote from: serotin on March 10, 2014, 06:26:09 PM i already brough this and its legit.

i am willing to re-sell it to someone interesed.

leave me skype for contact via private message

Sure, someone who joined late 2013 invested ~65.000 USD worth of bitcoins to buy that. Oh, and would you look at that, that very same person claiming to have bought the file for the incredible price of 100 BTC also has a very trustworthy trust rating of "-4: -1 / +0(0)".



Well, Mr. I-will-resell-it-and-will-definitely-not-scam-you, why don't you prove that the database is in your possesion OR that the sell offer from nanashi___ was infact a legit one, because until now I haven't heard anyone who can confirm that.

Sure, someone who joined late 2013 invested ~65.000 USD worth of bitcoins to buy that. Oh, and would you look at that, that very same person claiming to have bought the file for the incredible price of 100 BTC also has a very trustworthy trust rating of "-4: -1 / +0(0)".Well, Mr. I-will-resell-it-and-will-definitely-not-scam-you, why don't you prove that the database is in your possesion OR that the sell offer from nanashi___ was infact a legit one, because until now I haven't heard anyone who can confirm that.

My "trustworthy" rating is abused by retarded mod who have nothing proof based against me and i do not care about the abused trust here.

I already sold 3 copies of it,gf hating the moneymaking Kid,i get my investment in less than 2 hours so don't worry about how much i spend and stuff.My "trustworthy" rating is abused by retarded mod who have nothing proof based against me and i do not care about the abused trust here.I already sold 3 copies of it,gf hating the moneymaking Casinoooo

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NewbieActivity: 59Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 10, 2014, 08:41:41 PM #76 . He seems rather stupid and gets angry quickly so to anyone else who want to have some fun shoot him a PM Just got done trolling this serotin character. He was very cute, but clearly does not have what he says he has and he had no clue what he was supposed to have, which I found very funny. He seems rather stupid and gets angry quickly so to anyone else who want to have some fun shoot him a PM

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Full MemberActivity: 128Merit: 100 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 12:34:34 AM #84 Quote from: glendower on March 10, 2014, 04:04:25 PM Quote from: ozzymax on March 09, 2014, 08:47:01 PM I came late to the MtGox party and fortunately did not lose a lot and my heartfelt feeling go out to those that did, This news is not good, so now my passport, my bank details and my home address is now in the hands of hackers and they are trying to sell that info. I'm fucking furious. Karpeles needs to pay for this big time. post the hackers email address, this need to go to Interpol.



It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.



So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims.

It is not Karpeles fault that a criminal is trying to sell your data. The perpetrators of crime are the criminals, and in this case MtGox & its customers are the victims. In fact, if someone hadn't been defrauding them via the malleability exploit, we wouldn't be in this situation.So, how about we start actually blaming this fiasco on the perpetrators rather than the victims. It is illegal in most countries to keep such data. I bet Japan is no different. Hence it is very likely this is just one more criminal count for MtGox and the F.F. Karpeles.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 322Merit: 252 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 01:06:36 AM #85 Anybody who sent their info including their passport to Mt. GOXXX got GOXXXed. If they cared at all about their info they wouldn't have sent it to such a place. Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful.



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LegendaryActivity: 1050Merit: 1000 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 03:40:52 PM #89 Quote from: Evil-Knievel on March 11, 2014, 03:35:38 PM Shortly after I MtGox incident, I started getting a lot of phishing mails with fake "Bitstamp" and "BTC-e" messages. So obviously someone seems to have access to the very same email address I used on MtGox.



yea, me too.



this is the recent:



BTC-E

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Hello!

We inform you that you scan the downloaded document # 14327223

-Specified in the certificate data in a language other than the language passport data

Please provide a new file to check.

Sincerely,



Representative Director

BTC-E Co., Ltd.

Shibuya-ku, Tokyo



^ LOL ^ I always thought btc-e is russian and not from tokyo



the reasonable thing to do would be to change all passwords, i bet some people used the mt.gox account password elsewhere, i am not one of them tho. yea, me too.this is the recent:BTC-ETo MeToday at 11:08 AMHello!We inform you that you scan the downloaded document # 14327223 http://ge.tt/api/1/files/355v3rP1/0/blob?download can not be verified for the following reason:-Specified in the certificate data in a language other than the language passport dataPlease provide a new file to check.Sincerely,Representative DirectorBTC-E Co., Ltd.Shibuya-ku, Tokyo^ LOL ^ I always thought btc-e is russian and not from tokyothe reasonable thing to do would be to change all passwords, i bet some people used the mt.gox account password elsewhere, i am not one of them tho.

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NewbieActivity: 17Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 04:12:57 PM #91 Quote from: ozzymax on March 10, 2014, 04:28:21 PM or are you delusional "it's not Karpeles fault" how old are you kid?



Older than you apparently. Others will judge whether wiser or not.



Look, the point is, its a bit like blaming a home owner when there house is left unlocked and subsequently burgled. Just because they made it easier through some inaction, at the end of the day it is the perpetrator of the crime who is the real villain.



Okay, so Karpeles is an idiot, but he didn't force people to give them their bitcoin / fiat. But you're going after the wrong man. Don't get hung up on vengeance against the gun dealer, go after the man that pulled the trigger. Older than you apparently. Others will judge whether wiser or not.Look, the point is, its a bit like blaming a home owner when there house is left unlocked and subsequently burgled. Just because they made it easier through some inaction, at the end of the day it is the perpetrator of the crime who is the real villain.Okay, so Karpeles is an idiot, but he didn't force people to give them their bitcoin / fiat. But you're going after the wrong man. Don't get hung up on vengeance against the gun dealer, go after the man that pulled the trigger.

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NewbieActivity: 17Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 04:42:32 PM #93 Quote from: T.Stuart on March 11, 2014, 04:18:12 PM Quote from: glendower on March 11, 2014, 04:12:57 PM Quote from: ozzymax on March 10, 2014, 04:28:21 PM or are you delusional "it's not Karpeles fault" how old are you kid?

Okay, so Karpeles is an idiot, but he didn't force people to give them their bitcoin / fiat. But you're going after the wrong man. Don't get hung up on vengeance against the gun dealer, go after the man that pulled the trigger.

Okay, so Karpeles is an idiot,. But you're going after the wrong man. Don't get hung up on vengeance against the gun dealer, go after the man that pulled the trigger.

This is not the same as what he did. What he did is to allow people to use his service and deposit Bitcoin and fiat while knowing that he did not have all his customer's funds (despite publicly saying that he did all the way until the end).

This is not the same as what he did. What he did is to allow people to use his service and deposit Bitcoin and fiat while knowing that he did not have all his customer's funds (despite publicly saying that he did all the way until the end).

Now, I live in the UK, and in law here the accused has the presumption of innocence until proved otherwise.



Karpeles undoubtedly knew that MtGox was in trouble due to the malleability exploit, but it may have taken some time before they got to the bottom of it and realised exactly how big a problem it was. They may have been working on the premise that they would have sufficient reserves in fiat to bail themselves out.



The fact is, we just don't know. If Karpeles continued to trade whilst knowingly insolvent, then yes, he is guilty of that, and I am sure that he will have to face the courts to deal with that.



But, I maintain the real villain here is whoever defrauded MtGox in the first place.



Now, I live in the UK, and in law here the accused has the presumption of innocence until proved otherwise.Karpeles undoubtedly knew that MtGox was in trouble due to the malleability exploit, but it may have taken some time before they got to the bottom of it and realised exactly how big a problem it was. They may have been working on the premise that they would have sufficient reserves in fiat to bail themselves out.The fact is, we just don't know. If Karpeles continued to trade whilst knowingly insolvent, then yes, he is guilty of that, and I am sure that he will have to face the courts to deal with that.But, I maintain the real villain here is whoever defrauded MtGox in the first place.

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Quote Mt. Gox database sale: steps to remove yourself from dump before sales.



Most around here know we are selling gox customer info. Many have contact us requesting to pay to have their data removed before we sell. We are doing this for a cost of 0.25 BTC per person removed. We have already sold and release 20% of data to 2 buyers, so if you are apart of that it's too late for you.



We are release the rest of this data to our buyers sometime this week, so after that happens it is too late for everyone who has not been removed already.



1) Email [...] with the email you used with mtgox.

2) I will check file already sold, if you are not part of that I will send you unique bitcoin address. If you don't get response it means your data has already been sold in first batch or we have finalized sale of all data.

3) After you have sent .25 bitcoin payment, email us again to inform us of this.

4) Thats all, we will delete your personal data and passport scan from all copies of database.



DO NOT email asking to do this for cheaper unless you are doing 10+ accounts at once. Also do not email us asking to confirm what information we have about you. If gox had it, we have it, and as you can read on boards we have confirmed possession of this dump for many people. We let you use our same email for this as all other gox hack communication so you know we are same people. Doing this things will cause us to ignore all further message from you.



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Quote Also do not email us asking to confirm what information we have about you. Interesting how this is the opposite of what he said before.



Afaik nobody has proven to be in possession of such data yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I'm starting to think this is all a scam. new info:Interesting how this is the opposite of what he said before.Afaik nobody has proven to be in possession of such data yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).I'm starting to think this is all a scam. 2009-12-10 | I'm using GPG, Date Registered:| I'm using GPG, pm me for my public key. | Bitcoin on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc

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LegendaryActivity: 1050Merit: 1000 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 05:06:59 PM #95 Quote from: glendower on March 11, 2014, 04:42:32 PM



Now, I live in the UK, and in law here the accused has the presumption of innocence until proved otherwise..







this is one of the reasons i really like in UK laws



in Poland, the laws are so fucked up and corrupted, and totally opposite in this case - they lock you up first, without even listening to you and then you have to prove you are not guilty to get out. Polish gangsta police will lock you up for anything!

this is one of the reasons i really like in UK lawsin Poland, the laws are so fucked up and corrupted, and totally opposite in this case - they lock you up first, without even listening to you and then you have to prove you are not guilty to get out. Polish gangsta police will lock you up for anything!

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LegendaryActivity: 1050Merit: 1000 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 05:10:40 PM #96 Quote from: SmokeTooMuch on March 11, 2014, 05:01:08 PM new info:

Mt. Gox database sale: steps to remove yourself from dump before sales.



Most around here know we are selling gox customer info. Many have contact us requesting to pay to have their data removed before we sell. We are doing this for a cost of 0.25 BTC per person removed. We have already sold and release 20% of data to 2 buyers, so if you are apart of that it's too late for you.



We are release the rest of this data to our buyers sometime this week, so after that happens it is too late for everyone who has not been removed already.



1) Email [...] with the email you used with mtgox.

2) I will check file already sold, if you are not part of that I will send you unique bitcoin address. If you don't get response it means your data has already been sold in first batch or we have finalized sale of all data.

3) After you have sent .25 bitcoin payment, email us again to inform us of this.

4) Thats all, we will delete your personal data and passport scan from all copies of database.



DO NOT email asking to do this for cheaper unless you are doing 10+ accounts at once. Also do not email us asking to confirm what information we have about you. If gox had it, we have it, and as you can read on boards we have confirmed possession of this dump for many people. We let you use our same email for this as all other gox hack communication so you know we are same people. Doing this things will cause us to ignore all further message from you.



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This is a SCAM!



nanashi would not take a penny as he said on IRC and hes english is terrible and this is well written. This is a SCAM!nanashi would not take a penny as he said on IRC and hes english is terrible and this is well written.

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LegendaryActivity: 1176Merit: 1005 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 05:25:41 PM #99 Quote from: qwk on March 09, 2014, 08:01:51 PM Seriously, does anyone believe that this kind of data is worth anywhere near 100 BTC?



Assuming this is not a scam, which it probably is.



Passport scans for people including many millionaires? I'm sure it would be quite valuable in the hands of identity thieves and other criminals. Anyone fool enough to trust their information to Gox is going to have to worry about all kinds of scams being done in their names. Never mind that terrorist organizations often use the stolen passports of other individuals, so they might end up looking at the wrong end of a terror investigation they have nothing to do with, too.



Goxed indeed!



Even, though, if the current "offer" is someone trying to swindle people who really do deserve to lose their money if they're trying to buy this shit, we have no idea who has all this data, and no reason to believe one of them won't, in fact, eventually sell it, or just publish it for the fuck of it. Assuming this is not a scam, which it probably is.Passport scans for people including many millionaires? I'm sure it would be quite valuable in the hands of identity thieves and other criminals. Anyone fool enough to trust their information to Gox is going to have to worry about all kinds of scams being done in their names. Never mind that terrorist organizations often use the stolen passports of other individuals, so they might end up looking at the wrong end of a terror investigation they have nothing to do with, too.Goxed indeed!Even, though, if the current "offer" is someone trying to swindle people who really do deserve to lose their money if they're trying to buy this shit, we have no idea who has all this data, and no reason to believe one of them won't, in fact, eventually sell it, or just publish it for the fuck of it.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 448Merit: 250 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 05:28:24 PM #100 The math doesnt add up.



20GB wouldnt be many decent scans. mtgox had how many users?



A database of usernames and other details like address and email maybe but not the actual verification scans those would take up heaps of space.

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LegendaryActivity: 1176Merit: 1005 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 05:35:27 PM #102 Quote from: glendower on March 11, 2014, 04:12:57 PM Look, the point is, its a bit like blaming a home owner when there house is left unlocked and subsequently burgled. Just because they made it easier through some inaction, at the end of the day it is the perpetrator of the crime who is the real villain.

Bullshit.



You have no responsibility to anyone but yourself (and perhaps your family) to lock your own front door.



When you take other people's money in trust, you have a fiduciary duty to protect it. Incompetence is a breach of that duty. Outright fraud is an even more unconscionable malfeasance. Karpeles and Gox (if they even are separate) utterly failed to carry out the duty they'd agreed to by accepting deposits.



This is assuming, of course, that he isn't actually the thief himself, and frankly, I'd put him at the top of any suspect list. Bullshit.You have no responsibility to anyone but yourself (and perhaps your family) to lock your own front door.When you take other people's money in trust, you have a fiduciary duty to protect it. Incompetence is a breach of that duty. Outright fraud is an even more unconscionable malfeasance. Karpeles and Gox (if they even are separate) utterly failed to carry out the duty they'd agreed to by accepting deposits.This is assuming, of course, that he isn't actually the thief himself, and frankly, I'd put him at the top of any suspect list.

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NewbieActivity: 17Merit: 0 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 07:13:30 PM #106 Quote from: darkmule on March 11, 2014, 05:35:27 PM Quote from: glendower on March 11, 2014, 04:12:57 PM Look, the point is, its a bit like blaming a home owner when there house is left unlocked and subsequently burgled. Just because they made it easier through some inaction, at the end of the day it is the perpetrator of the crime who is the real villain.

When you take other people's money in trust, you have a fiduciary duty to protect it. Incompetence is a breach of that duty. Outright fraud is an even more unconscionable malfeasance. Karpeles and Gox (if they even are separate) utterly failed to carry out the duty they'd agreed to by accepting deposits.



When you take other people's money in trust, you have a fiduciary duty to protect it. Incompetence is a breach of that duty. Outright fraud is an even more unconscionable malfeasance. Karpeles and Gox (if they even are separate) utterly failed to carry out the duty they'd agreed to by accepting deposits.

Is it not the case that Bitcoin exchanges are unregulated? As such, isn't it the case that their fiduciary duty extends to doing what they see fit to keep customers assets secure?



Perhaps what we need is some regulation, or at the very least, a code of practice that exchanges are prepared to sign up to that will ensure that exchanges are not able to let such a situation arise again. Is it not the case that Bitcoin exchanges are unregulated? As such, isn't it the case that their fiduciary duty extends to doing what they see fit to keep customers assets secure?Perhaps what we need is some regulation, or at the very least, a code of practice that exchanges are prepared to sign up to that will ensure that exchanges are not able to let such a situation arise again.

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LegendaryActivity: 1176Merit: 1005 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 07:55:40 PM #107 Quote from: glendower on March 11, 2014, 07:13:30 PM Is it not the case that Bitcoin exchanges are unregulated? As such, isn't it the case that their fiduciary duty extends to doing what they see fit to keep customers assets secure?

No, a fiduciary duty is determined by the circumstances, not by formalities. Some formalities, such as actually being a banker, have statutorily established financial duties, but whether a fiduciary duty exists is a case by case determination. Service providing bailees have some form of a fiduciary duty, have duties to protect the assets entrusted to them, and are liable for failure to do so.



Whether or not Gox was a registered or an illegal operation, it acted as a currency exchanger, and can't really fall back on "but I was lying and I was really running an illegal operation" as a defense. The relationship was that people would deposit money (BTC or fiat) into Gox, which would hold it for them, and charge them for the service of exchanging it for another currency, then allow it to be withdrawn.



I.e. that money never belonged to Gox in the first place. They solely held it for the benefit of another, and it was there for the purpose of Gox providing services, for which they were paid, to the real owner of the funds. That establishes a fiduciary duty pretty much anywhere.



(Note: I have not read the Mt. Gox TOS or other such documents, and can't seem to find them. They might try to disclaim such a duty in there, which would have been wise considering how they were running their "business.") No, a fiduciary duty is determined by the circumstances, not by formalities. Some formalities, such as actually being a banker, have statutorily established financial duties, but whether a fiduciary duty exists is a case by case determination. Service providing bailees have some form of a fiduciary duty, have duties to protect the assets entrusted to them, and are liable for failure to do so.Whether or not Gox was a registered or an illegal operation, it acted as a currency exchanger, and can't really fall back on "but I was lying and I was really running an illegal operation" as a defense. The relationship was that people would deposit money (BTC or fiat) into Gox, which would hold it for them, and charge them for the service of exchanging it for another currency, then allow it to be withdrawn.I.e. that money never belonged to Gox in the first place. They solely held it for the benefit of another, and it was there for the purpose of Gox providing services, for which they were paid, to the real owner of the funds. That establishes a fiduciary duty pretty much anywhere.(Note: I have not read the Mt. Gox TOS or other such documents, and can't seem to find them. They might try to disclaim such a duty in there, which would have been wise considering how they were running their "business.")

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LegendaryActivity: 1176Merit: 1005 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 11, 2014, 11:01:18 PM #112 Quote from: Evil-Knievel on March 11, 2014, 08:57:55 PM



"The malleability issue in bitcoin has been known for well over two years now [1]. At the time it seems to have been dismissed as ugly, but not worth bothering about."



Not sure why it was never fixed in those two years. Quote:"The malleability issue in bitcoin has been known for well over two years now [1]. At the time it seems to have been dismissed as ugly, but not worth bothering about."Not sure why it was never fixed in those two years.

Maybe they thought nobody would be stupid enough to entrust hundreds of millions of dollars to an identifier that everyone knew could be changed, especially after being personally told not to. Most sentences that start "nobody would be stupid enough to. . ." are wrong, though. Maybe they thought nobody would be stupid enough to entrust hundreds of millions of dollars to an identifier that everyone knew could be changed, especially after being personally told not to. Most sentences that start "nobody would be stupid enough to. . ." are wrong, though.

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nanashi___ here, I am just passing by to do some PR.



Thank you for all your mails, I have received hundreds and hundreds and some people managed to escape my selloff by sending bitcoins for me to remove information about them.



I first want to tell that I am not a scam, I have hundreds of mails to answer to and I just cannot keep sending all your private data to anyone.

I can however provide the data before deletion after your payment but I just cannot prove to every one of you that I have the documents.

If you ask, I do have the documents and I am selling them at 10 BTC per 2GB or 100 BTC for the whole file, already several chunks of data were sold, you still may be a candidate for the escape.



You still can ask me to delete your information for 0.25 BTC, hurry because soon I will change the price to 0.5 BTC, supply and demand



For those who are still skeptical, I cannot do anything for you, you are free to believe or not that I possess the file (though I have sent to early senders proof of information, maybe they can witness here).

However I personnally recommend you to pay for removal, I don't know the people to whom I sold the documents, you never know what they can do with them.



You can send me mails at [removed] , however don't bother asking me stupid questions or ask me to send you your information, I will not answer and the price for extortion will be doubled for each attempt at sending these kind of mails. You have been warned.





For those who wonder, removal demands are very high and this operation has been very fruitful, I have already obtained several bitcoins from it.



Hello,nanashi___ here, I am just passing by to do some PR.Thank you for all your mails, I have received hundreds and hundreds and some people managed to escape my selloff by sending bitcoins for me to remove information about them.I first want to tell that I am not a scam, I have hundreds of mails to answer to and I just cannot keep sending all your private data to anyone.I can however provide the data before deletion after your payment but I just cannot prove to every one of you that I have the documents.If you ask, I do have the documents and I am selling them at 10 BTC per 2GB or 100 BTC for the whole file, already several chunks of data were sold, you still may be a candidate for the escape.You still can ask me to delete your information for 0.25 BTC, hurry because soon I will change the price to 0.5 BTC, supply and demandFor those who are still skeptical, I cannot do anything for you, you are free to believe or not that I possess the file (though I have sent to early senders proof of information, maybe they can witness here).However I personnally recommend you to pay for removal, I don't know the people to whom I sold the documents, you never know what they can do with them.You can send me mails at, however don't bother asking me stupid questions or ask me to send you your information, I will not answer and the price for extortion will be doubled for each attempt at sending these kind of mails. You have been warned.For those who wonder, removal demands are very high and this operation has been very fruitful, I have already obtained several bitcoins from it.

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LegendaryActivity: 1386Merit: 1042Please do not PM me loan requests! Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 12, 2014, 02:03:21 AM

Last edit: March 12, 2014, 04:11:20 AM by grue #115 Quote from: nanashi___ on March 11, 2014, 11:40:40 PM



nanashi___ here, I am just passing by to do some PR.



Thank you for all your mails, I have received hundreds and hundreds and some people managed to escape my selloff by sending bitcoins for me to remove information about them.



I first want to tell that I am not a scam, I have hundreds of mails to answer to and I just cannot keep sending all your private data to anyone.

I can however provide the data before deletion after your payment but I just cannot prove to every one of you that I have the documents.

If you ask, I do have the documents and I am selling them at 10 BTC per 2GB or 100 BTC for the whole file, already several chunks of data were sold, you still may be a candidate for the escape.



You still can ask me to delete your information for 0.25 BTC, hurry because soon I will change the price to 0.5 BTC, supply and demand



For those who are still skeptical, I cannot do anything for you, you are free to believe or not that I possess the file (though I have sent to early senders proof of information, maybe they can witness here).

However I personnally recommend you to pay for removal, I don't know the people to whom I sold the documents, you never know what they can do with them.



You can send me mails at [removed] , however don't bother asking me stupid questions or ask me to send you your information, I will not answer and the price for extortion will be doubled for each attempt at sending these kind of mails. You have been warned.





For those who wonder, removal demands are very high and this operation has been very fruitful, I have already obtained several bitcoins from it.





Hello,nanashi___ here, I am just passing by to do some PR.Thank you for all your mails, I have received hundreds and hundreds and some people managed to escape my selloff by sending bitcoins for me to remove information about them.I first want to tell that I am not a scam, I have hundreds of mails to answer to and I just cannot keep sending all your private data to anyone.I can however provide the data before deletion after your payment but I just cannot prove to every one of you that I have the documents.If you ask, I do have the documents and I am selling them at 10 BTC per 2GB or 100 BTC for the whole file, already several chunks of data were sold, you still may be a candidate for the escape.You still can ask me to delete your information for 0.25 BTC, hurry because soon I will change the price to 0.5 BTC, supply and demandFor those who are still skeptical, I cannot do anything for you, you are free to believe or not that I possess the file (though I have sent to early senders proof of information, maybe they can witness here).However I personnally recommend you to pay for removal, I don't know the people to whom I sold the documents, you never know what they can do with them.You can send me mails at, however don't bother asking me stupid questions or ask me to send you your information, I will not answer and the price for extortion will be doubled for each attempt at sending these kind of mails. You have been warned.For those who wonder, removal demands are very high and this operation has been very fruitful, I have already obtained several bitcoins from it.



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LegendaryActivity: 2450Merit: 1031 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 12, 2014, 07:15:04 PM #124 I think this is all a bad scam and i hope no-one believe this scammer.

BUT if this person send you some personal data, it doesn't means that he have passport scan, but only database entry.

Someone told me that there was (i think in 2011) another thief of MTgox user data. So, pay attention that the scammer isn't using that data.

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LegendaryActivity: 1176Merit: 1005 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 13, 2014, 06:55:18 PM #137 Quote from: Ente on March 13, 2014, 09:03:22 AM This forum, or maybe half of Bitcoin world, goes full retard lately.

I have never been on a supposedly "moderated" forum before where I routinely encounter full screens of "This user is currently ignored" and where I have been repeatedly infracted myself for absolutely fucking nothing while outright scammers operate with impunity.



Considering this site is what noobs and media first see when they look into Bitcoin, it's hard to blame even scummy, lying corporate media for being horrified and thinking Bitcoin is nothing more than a ditch of iniquity. I have never been on a supposedly "moderated" forum before where I routinely encounter full screens of "This user is currently ignored" and where I have been repeatedly infracted myself for absolutely fucking nothing while outright scammers operate with impunity.Considering this site is what noobs and media first see when they look into Bitcoin, it's hard to blame even scummy, lying corporate media for being horrified and thinking Bitcoin is nothing more than a ditch of iniquity.

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CTGVIPLegendaryActivity: 1064Merit: 1002BCJ Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 13, 2014, 07:02:14 PM #138 Quote from: darkmule on March 13, 2014, 06:55:18 PM Quote from: Ente on March 13, 2014, 09:03:22 AM This forum, or maybe half of Bitcoin world, goes full retard lately.

I have never been on a supposedly "moderated" forum before where I routinely encounter full screens of "This user is currently ignored" and where I have been repeatedly infracted myself for absolutely fucking nothing while outright scammers operate with impunity.



Considering this site is what noobs and media first see when they look into Bitcoin, it's hard to blame even scummy, lying corporate media for being horrified and thinking Bitcoin is nothing more than a ditch of iniquity.

I have never been on a supposedly "moderated" forum before where I routinely encounter full screens of "This user is currently ignored" and where I have been repeatedly infracted myself for absolutely fucking nothing while outright scammers operate with impunity.Considering this site is what noobs and media first see when they look into Bitcoin, it's hard to blame even scummy, lying corporate media for being horrified and thinking Bitcoin is nothing more than a ditch of iniquity.



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I can only read here for a few minutes (if I check as all) as the quality of the discourse and and all of the scammy activity is mind numbing.



We need a new, better moderated, Forum.



PLUS ONE +1+1+1I can only read here for a few minutes (if I check as all) as the quality of the discourse and and all of the scammy activity is mind numbing.We need a new, better moderated, Forum.

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Hero MemberActivity: 490Merit: 500 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 15, 2014, 07:58:29 PM #147 So the scammer wanted to prove he had personal info, then proceeded to find some id online, and using sock puppets to scare ppl into buying his scam?



Must be some teen with lots of pimples, lack of morality and lack of brain.

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LegendaryActivity: 1371Merit: 1011 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 16, 2014, 12:21:11 AM #148 I have met people in Bitcoinland, scammers mostly, that are so broken that - if they were dogs - would have to be euthanized right away.



Luckily there are also lots of unusual funny and bright folks around. Truth is the new hatespeech.

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LegendaryActivity: 875Merit: 1014 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale March 18, 2014, 11:09:18 PM #154 Quote 04:37 <nanashi___> email change to [...]. use pgp from original hack posts to confirm i am same person. cost is 0.35 bitcoins for full perm data delete

04:37 <nanashi___> http://[...] use public pgp from there or any original hack posts to confirm its me

04:38 <LennyBruce> How do I know my data wasn't part of the piece of the file you have already sold?

04:38 <nanashi___> if you don't start getting spam/phishing emails yet, you probably not part of the piece sold. email me with address and i check sold file.

04:38 <nanashi___> if your data is not part, i send you bitcoin address and perminantly delete your data after payment recieved.

04:38 <nanashi___> [...] only, do not use old address.

04:39 <nanashi___> use same pgp to confim it me. i delete everything including passport scans and bank info.

04:40 <gonzop> nanashi is your group responsible for the new login on mtgox.com?

04:40 <nanashi___> we did not do mtgox.com login. they still control mtgox.com as far as i know

04:40 <gonzop> We're supposed to trust the guy who stole the DB and sold them?

04:40 <nanashi___> don't care. just responding. if i wanted to control mtgox.com i probably could.

04:40 <gonzop> Ok so it's safe to login to Mt Gox?

04:41 <nanashi___> yes as long as you trust frenchman who stole 951,116 btc. he probably had to put this up for legal reason

04:42 <MagicalTux> Nothing was stolen by me. Time will tell the full story. On the other hand you are exorting people after stealing our customer's info. You are probably the hacker who stoll all our Bitcoins in the first place.

04:42 <nanashi___> bla bla bla bla

04:42 <nanashi___> yes I stole one billion dollars and now am sticking around to sell data dump for peanuts

04:42 <nanashi___> ps they were not your bitcoins, they your customers

04:43 <MagicalTux> they're

04:43 <nanashi___> two people commit suicide already because of your fraud and you joke. you care?

04:43 <MagicalTux> How many people will kill themselves because of what you are doing?

04:43 <nanashi___> few poeple kill themself because of viagra spam. you ruined many people

04:44 <MagicalTux> Lots of people kill themselves because of identity theft, which is happening with the data you are selling.

04:44 <nanashi___> this is serious? if you are so concerned next time protect customer info better. why you even keep passport scans on server?

04:44 <nanashi___> if not for us someone else would have done exact same

04:44 <nanashi___> at least we give people honest chance to have data deleted before sale

04:44 <gonzop> nanashi is it too late to have my information removed before you sell the database?

04:45 <nanashi___> gonzop maybe not. have sold 10% of dump and am waiting until thur/20 to sell rest while allow people to pay to be removed

04:45 <MagicalTux> Pure extortion. I can't wait until they catch you.

04:45 <nanashi___> can't wait to see you behind bars mark. you rob one million people.

04:45 <MagicalTux> I didn't rob anyone. You are a criminal.

04:45 <nanashi___> maybe but i need sell this data to feed my family. you took food from their mouth like thousand other when you stole our bitcoins

04:46 <MagicalTux> You are a scumbag.

04:46 <nanashi___> what does that make you?

Thoughts? Clearly the bitcointalk nanashi___ isn't the real one, but has anyone tried to contact the real nanashi___? Could he prove possession of Mt. Gox user data?



P.S.: I don't even know whether these chat logs are real or not. Thoughts? Clearly the bitcointalk nanashi___ isn't the real one, but has anyone tried to contact the real nanashi___? Could he prove possession of Mt. Gox user data?P.S.: I don't even know whether these chat logs are real or not. 2009-12-10 | I'm using GPG, Date Registered:| I'm using GPG, pm me for my public key. | Bitcoin on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc

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Full MemberActivity: 154Merit: 100 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale April 12, 2014, 01:03:14 AM #157 Quote from: Luno on March 19, 2014, 04:45:09 AM



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521194.msg5768702#msg5768702



Might not be the same guys, but they are kind of set on making it worse on Gox customers, could be the same guys. Ip recorded.

Heard this yesterday over on ##mtgox-chat and posted here:Might not be the same guys, but they are kind of set on making it worse on Gox customers, could be the same guys. Ip recorded.

Erm, it's pretty clear to me even without context that marcusw was making a joke there on the basis of "I can sell you a screenshot that says whatever you like so why do you think your own genuine screenshots are worth anything to begin with?" Erm, it's pretty clear to me even without context that marcusw was making a joke there on the basis of "I can sell you a screenshot that says whatever you like so why do you think your own genuine screenshots are worth anything to begin with?"

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Hero MemberActivity: 490Merit: 500 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale May 19, 2014, 10:42:46 AM #158 In reality scammers are kind of a good thing. Don't get me wrong, it's completely deplorable and I don't condone it, but it's a bit like the jungle. Imagine a monkey population, they live in the threes, but occasionally they go down on the ground to find certain plants, in some areas, or based or certain sounds and smells, a predator can be spotted.



Some small apes are killed or eaten in the process, but the other wisen up and stay away from the predators, and learn how to protect themselves and not to take too big risks.



Or it could be like being a small fish, you hide under a stone, and you want to swim to a stone that looks attractive not too far away, and in the corner of your eye, you see a big fish - but you assume it won't harm you, so you take the chance and swim. You get eaten. Your brothers wait till they can't see any large fish, and swim safely over to the other big stone.



Live and learn.





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MemberActivity: 65Merit: 10 Re: Mt. Gox user details for sale May 19, 2014, 01:08:07 PM #159 Quote from: TheFootMan on May 19, 2014, 10:42:46 AM In reality scammers are kind of a good thing. Don't get me wrong, it's completely deplorable and I don't condone it, but it's a bit like the jungle. Imagine a monkey population, they live in the threes, but occasionally they go down on the ground to find certain plants, in some areas, or based or certain sounds and smells, a predator can be spotted.



Some small apes are killed or eaten in the process, but the other wisen up and stay away from the predators, and learn how to protect themselves and not to take too big risks.



Or it could be like being a small fish, you hide under a stone, and you want to swim to a stone that looks attractive not too far away, and in the corner of your eye, you see a big fish - but you assume it won't harm you, so you take the chance and swim. You get eaten. Your brothers wait till they can't see any large fish, and swim safely over to the other big stone.



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