Billy4202 said: how many times do they have to say it's "edgy" and "beyond exciting"? I'd be disappointed if I had waited for the hatch like I was going to originally. Mazda3 S Grand Touring hatch with the manual - still king. Click to expand...

Agreed. I just don't understand where Honda is going with this hatch. The sedan is great. What a huge upgrade over the 9th gen. Then along comes the coupe and it's excellent too. But with the hatch, and I'm sorry to say this, it just looks like a mish mosh. It's not really a traditional hatch like a Golf, Elantra GT or Mazda3. It's closer in design to a liftback style. From some angles it looks like the sedan. It just looks like Honda was trying too hard with the huge vents and dual spoilers.Maybe the look will grow on me but every time I look at it and then look at pics of the 2017 Mazda 3, I'm disappointed. I waited a year for this car so I could get it. Now I honestly think I'll just get a Civic sedan or coupe or maybe a Mazda3 or Forte5 SX turbo hatch or maybe, just maybe, a VW GTI. At least with these other cars I can get a manual with premium features and honestly, cleaner looks.