On a special crossover episode, Paul Holden & Chris the Plumber sit down with Chris & Christian from the podcast Beyond Binary Thinking to discuss how our economy is failing us, the rise of Brexit/Trumpism, and the potential for a US civil war.



You can find Beyond Binary Thinking wherever you get your podcasts, or at the links below:



Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-binary-thinking/id1409103440



Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC15fVfj8M4zd3fiP2FPOFLQ