African leaders say impoverished families in their countries want clean water, food, education and basic health care. But some of the world’s richest billionaires are using their money to push contraception and abortions on them instead.

In a recent interview with The Star in Kenya, American billionaire Bill Gates said his foundation is not involved in abortions (though evidence suggests otherwise), but it does focus on providing contraception to women and girls in Africa.

He did not shy away from saying that population control is their goal. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation long has been pushing population control on Africa. It recently released a new report about its work toward “ending poverty and fighting inequality.”

According to the news outlet, the report suggests measures to shift Africans toward “wanted births or fewer early births as a means to reduce population growth in Africa.”

Gates said they are working toward that goal by increasing access to contraception.

“The biggest thing is the modern tools of contraception,” he said. “There are implants, injections, IUD. And, obviously, if you have those things available, then people are more in control of being able to space their children.”

He noted how the United States provides more funds for contraception than anywhere else in the world.

“The US’s overall funding on reproductive health has stayed high,” Gates said. “It actually is the biggest funder, even though the programmes have had controversy and a lot of discussion. So, you look at how are these contraceptive supplies getting out in Africa? The US, along with the European donors, are where most of those resources have come from.”

Gates and his wife have been strong critics of President Donald Trump’s Mexico City policy, which prohibits tax dollars from funding groups that provide or promote abortions overseas. The order ensures U.S. foreign aid will continue to support legitimate health care and humanitarian relief. It just will not subsidize abortions in foreign countries.

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In the recent interview, Gates admitted the pro-life policy has not really hurt legitimate health care efforts in Africa. Abortion activists have claimed otherwise.

Gates told The Star: “You know, it’s actually not all that visible how much more difficult or what sort of impact that’s had. You know, we certainly have said that we think the rule doesn’t make sense, but it’s very much in place, and people have adjusted to try to minimize the negative impact of that.”

He said their foundation’s focus has been on providing “new tools of contraception and getting the message out.”

“A woman less able to have her desired family size, which both at the local and broad level, we think is very, very unfortunate,” Gates said.

But pro-life African leader Obianuju Ekeocha has criticized these population control programs as a new form of “colonialism” in Africa.

“As a society, we love and welcome babies,” Ekeocha said during a recent talk at Georgetown University. “Amidst our different difficulties and afflictions…our babies are always a firm sign of hope.”

Her important work has helped to expose how the western world pushes abortion on Africans. She said impoverished Africans want clean water, food, shelter and basic health care and education, but some programs push birth control and abortion instead.

“It is easier and cheaper to buy a bag of condoms than buy a bottle of water,” Ekeocha said.