0:12 Jenna Price, Asst. Press Sec., DNC: We just have to be careful about these things, and the way we talk about them

0:21 Scott Foval, Field Director, AUFC: We have to clear this with DNC, with Democratic National Committee, we have to clear what message we will be targeting at each event

0:32 Robert Creamer, Democracy Partners: In the end, it was the candidate, Hillary Clinton, the future president of the United States, who wanted ducks on the ground, so, by God, we will get ducks on the ground

0:38 PVA Journalist: Oh she.. so it's.. wow

0:41 Robert Creamer: Don't repeat that to anybody

0:44 Brad Woodhouse, President, AUFC: I think this duck is going to get roughed up somewhere

0:47 Scott Foval: I almost got punched on Monday morning, I mean I was in a duck costume

0:53 Robert Creamer: If the future POTUS wants ducks on the ground, we will put ducks on the ground

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2:15 Robert Creamer: Tomorrow we start this initiative on the tax returns. So, tomorrow morning, at Trump Tower, I hope we can arrange it so it goes down the escalator. We will launch Donald Ducks

2:22 [cont] Robert Creamer: A guy in a Donald Duck costume with a sign that says, "Donald Duck's releasing his tax returns."

2:49 Robert Creamer: In the end, that is adaptable to Donald ducks debates. Donald ducks whatever else he ducks. We are going to have Donald Ducks.

2:58 [cont] Robert Creamer: The real problem turns out that it's not easy to find Donald Duck costumes for adults, as you might imagine. Five-year-olds, plenty of them, but the other ones are mascot size

3:16 Brad Woodhouse: We did - Donald Ducks - in May... We put out a whole blast and a release around the idea that he was ducking. There were no taxes at that point, because this thing has come up repeatedly. And we... The key here is to have the visual and to have the costume and have the sign. We got so much shit for that blast, reporters thought it was silly

3:53 [cont] Brad Woodhouse: Oh no, the reporters still think it's silly. But you know what? We ain't talking to reporters, we're talking to voters.

4:01 Robert Creamer: The response in the reports this morning was they loved it

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4:05 Robert Creamer: Originally, we were going to do a project, we were going to do Uncle Sam. "I want you to release your tax returns." I agree it's not as good.

4:12 PVA Journalist: Been done, yeah.

4:12 Robert Creamer: I agree it's not as good. It's much easier to execute. The guy who had done this other Chicken George thing had this other idea.

4:21 [cont] Robert Creamer: And in the end, it was the candidate, Hillary Clinton, the future POTUS, who wanted ducks on the ground. So, by God, we will get ducks on the ground.

4:32 PVA Journalist: Oh she... so it's... wow

4:34 Robert Creamer: Don't... Don't repeat that to anybody

4:38 PVA Jouranlist: Oh, okay.

4:38 Robert Creamer: And it is a clever, and a better idea.

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4:42 Robert Creamer: Originally this guy Skalar, who was the... did Chicken George in 1992, came to Lux and I with the idea of Donald Ducks.

4:54 [cont] Robert Creamer: And I ran it up the flagpole in NY and put it down.. and... And it came up, and they said "We'd rather do Uncle Sam, I want you to release your tax returns."

5:08 [cont] Robert Creamer: And Uncle Sam suits are easy to find for adults, but then I get a call -- actually, on a plane about to go to London last week -- Christina Reynolds (Hillary Campaign) calls and says, "I've got good news and bad news. The good news is the candidate would like to have a mascot following around the duck. I mean Trump. But the bad news is she wants it to be Donald Duck." And that's because Skalar is an old Clinton man. He had gone to some buddy of his who is one of her body people and she had explained the idea to Hillary. And Hillary just loved it.

5:49 Brad Woodhouse: Let me tell you something, I think she has the right instinct here. The thing is working - is resonating - but that story is not exactly what you want to hear about how presidential decision-making happens.

6:03 Robert Creamer: So, my answer to Christina was, if the future POTUS wants ducks on the ground, we will put ducks on the ground.

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7:00 Scott Foval: So, the operation is to insert and get the duck message in there if we can, or the extremist message, depending on - we have to clear this with the DNC, with Democratic national committee we have to clear which message we're going to be targeting at each event. But they can insert into multiple events, now, through the end of the election on a continual basis, on a daily basis. But basically do a chase all across the country.

7:32 [cont] Scott Foval: Now the duck stuff... for the aggressive birddogging we want to do in front of the line before the events where we're plastering the outside with the Trump duck message, and then we're going into the events, everybody has their phone, we insert like twenty people - twenty to thirty people - into the events, where they all have their phones set to go off at the exact same time, on an alarm, with the duck call, on the inside of the events all at once from all over the arena

8:19 PVA Journalist: So, they'll catch the incident going down?

8:24 Scott Foval: So, we want the media to notice the duck calls, so we have everybody load a ringtone on their phone that are all timed to go off at the exact same time

8:39 Robert Creamer: We just ordered a thousand rubber duckies with 'Donald Ducks' written on them to hand out to people in the press

8:46 PVA Journalist: That's a cool idea!

8:50 Robert Creamer: And we have to order a bunch of Donald Duck hats so we can put people behind them at various events, you know where they speak. You get the drift? I'll probably set up a mini-website.

9:05 [cont] Robert Creamer: It's got to be Donald Ducks. It's got to look like Donald.

9:09 PVA Journalist: Do they license the suits?

9:11 Robert Creamer: Yeah, that's why it's expensive to buy or rent them because they're licensed

9:15 PVA Journalist: You're not going to run into a Disney problem or a copyright issue?

9:20 Robert Creamer: Let them sue us. Please God. [praying motion with hands]

9:25 PVA Journalist: Oh my god, that is awesome

9:27 Robert Creamer: I doubt that they will because we're paying to rent or buy the suits, that's where they get their license fees. We aren't using it for commercial purposes

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9:41 Scott Foval: The whole duck thing? That came about, the reason we moved it from DNC to AUFC was to just do a hopscotch, but the actual idea was hatched way back in May

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9:59 Robert Creamer: The duck has to be an AUFC entity. This had to do only with some problem between Donna Brazile and ABC, which is owned by Disney, because they were worried about a trademark issue. That's why. It's really silly.

10:18 [cont] Robert Creamer: Yeah, 'cause that's going to NY and NY doesn't care about any of that shit.

10:23 PVA Journalist: So, it was just a trademark issue with...

10:25 Robert Creamer: We originally launched this duck because Hillary Clinton wants the duck

10:30 [cont] Robert Creamer: In any case, so she really wanted this duck figure out there doing this stuff, so that was fine. So we put all these ducks out there and got a lot of coverage. And Trump taxes. And then ABC/Disney went crazy because they thought our original slogan was "Donald ducks his taxes, releasing his tax returns." They said it was a trademark issue. It's not, but anyway, Donna Brazile had a connection with them and she didn't want to get sued. So we switched ownership of the duck to AUFC and now our signs say "Trump ducks releasing his tax returns." And we haven't had any more trouble

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11:47 Jenna Price, Asst. Press Sec., DNC: We kind of divvy up responsibilities. So sometimes it will be, like, campaign owned. So sometimes you will see that they advised something, or they are taking credit for things. So, like, we aren't taking credit for the duck anymore. That's like, random ally groups. But it's still something that we're involved in.

12:05 PVA Journalist: Why aren't you taking credit?

12:08 Jenna Price: [Whistles] Just 'cause there were issues... It's like a whole long story - ask Bob (Creamer) about it.

12:14 Ross Terry, DNC Intern: Intro to party politics...

12:17 Jenna Price: No, it wasn't party politics, but we just have to be careful about these things, and the way we talk about them, and who knows about certain things, but you guys are. I trust that it will all be fine.

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12:42 Brad Woodhouse: You're going to have these ducks at some of his rallies right?

12:45 Robert Creamer: Sure, every rally.

12:53 Brad Woodhouse: And enough people with him to... provide protection? Because I tell you, I think this duck is going to get roughed up somewhere

13:02 Robert Creamer: Oh, sure.

13:02 Brad Woodhouse: Somewhere, someone is going to rip his costume off.

13:05 Robert Creamer: It may happen at the Iowa State Fair this week

13:08 Brad Woodhouse: Yeah...

13:09 Robert Creamer: Because Pence is there and the duck is planning to follow him around

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13:12 Scott Foval: It's about intensity of the reaction

13:14 PVA Journalist: Not the duck itself?

13:14 Scott Foval: No

13:14 PVA Journalist: Okay.

13:16 Scott Foval: It's not the reaction to the duck call and the signs. Because once they pull out these signs, Trump supporters literally start throwing punches at you.

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