It’s Thursday in Australia so that means podcast time.

This was a good ‘un. Al and I typically catch up when I go to NYC and the conversation felt like something we would have covered in a dive bar somewhere. Our occult historian extraordinaire talks to us about grimoires and the story of the western magical tradition.

We also discuss living in New York, studying under Professor Hutton and magic’s relationship to the rise of modern science and medicine.

Here you can find Al’s grimoire tumblr.

Here you can find his first book. (Or AMZN link.)

And here you can sometimes find him on the twitterz.

Download the episode here or listen below.