Who knew when I stepped onto the lush green grounds of Vancouver’s Stanley Park in the summer of 1990 that I’d be writing about it 27 years later? I sure the hell didn’t, and on Tim Curry’s birthday nonetheless!

I’d been assigned to write two 3,000-word set visit stories for then-thriving horror mag Fangoria on the filming of a two-part ABC TV miniseries based on Stephen King’s massive 1986 novel It. One of the articles would be a general colour story that included interviews with director Tommy Lee Wallace, screenwriter Lawrence Cohen, head makeup-FX artist Bart Mixon, and whatever cast members were around. (My request for a chat with the King himself was flatly ignored.)

The other would be an in-depth interview with Tim Curry, who was playing It‘s pivotal villain, Pennywise the Dancing Clown. As it turns out, that’s the conversation everybody wants to hear about all these years later and–thanks to my habit of saving most all the tapes from my 35-plus years of rock and horror journalism–can now actually hear.

A lot of today’s renewed interest in Curry/Pennywise has to do with the fact that there’s a new two-part movie version of It coming out; its first trailer scared the holy hell out of the internet when it was released recently. (I didn’t watch it because I learned long ago that, especially with horror flicks, viewing trailers beforehand totally erodes the in-theatre experience.)

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Then there’s the fact that, just last year, citizens in various countries started reporting people in creepy clown outfits threatening others on the street, committing crimes, and generally causing havoc. If you were already terrified of clowns, 2016 was definitely a year to watch out for Bozos.

But perhaps the main reason why folks in 2017 are all “Pennywise-this” and “Pennywise-that” is because Tim Curry did such an unforgettable job of bringing the taunting, child-killing character to life. In the first audio excerpt I posted from the interview–which was conducted in Curry’s trailer while he was in full Pennywise makeup–he explained that, to him, the clown was like “a smile gone bad.”

“Basically he’s just pure evil,” said Curry between bites of a tomato and cream cheese sandwich, crusts removed, “and he can also metamorphose into various other forms–mostly into the image feared most by whoever he’s appearing to.”

“I won’t tell you what he turns into at the end,” he added with a wink, “but basically he’s completely irredeemable; he’s the kind of chap that’s entirely without charm.”

In the second audio excerpt, which I posted a few weeks back, Curry can be heard detailing how the actual look of Pennywise was created.

“The clown face was a little mixture of all three of us,” he said, referring to himself, Mixon, and Wallace. “But the first five days of shooting there wasn’t a day when the face was quite the same because tiny little things evolved, like the shape of the mouth. And the eyebrows are actually the hardest thing to really nail down.”

This third excerpt from my chat with Curry, exclusive to Dread Central, has me asking the actor if he’s a horror or fantasy genre fan. He seemed to put a lot of thought into his answer.

Have a listen: