Jose Silvestri and Cameron Gera go over the 2019 State of Haskell Survey and encourage you to fill it out. Episode 24 was published on 2019-11-08.

hello and welcome to haskell weekly podcast as you might have guessed this shows about highschool a purely functional programming language I'm your host camera guerra I'm an engineer here at IT pros TV and with me today we have what's a Silvestri I'm gonna internet IT pro TV whoo we got our intern here he's a pretty pretty witty pretty cool we're excited to have you on the show today man thank you what are we talking about today so we're talking about our high school survey well it's not our high school it's the high school survey oh it's big it's big time guys it's big time but no Taylor our he was also also on this podcast a lot he kind of put together this past school survey that he does he's done this for two years now well this will be a third year so kind of putting you know a survey out to kind of get the temperature of you know half school what what the community wants what the community commonly uses what what's kind of trends and stuff like that you know what what does the Haskell pot you know what did the high school survey kind of glean for you as you did it yeah I really thought the there's a section on it of what would I like to see more of content wise about Haskell and that was a really useful thing to me because I feel like there's certain areas of sort of Haskell's InfoSphere right that are very lacking and I think service like this like are very useful on that end just for people to see what's what the community wants what's missing what type of content needs to be made and so on right yeah I think you know for me taking up the survey for the second year you know looking at it this year it's very you know there was you know section on community how do you feel like you fit into the community do you feel like it's welcoming do you feel like you can communicate with people and I think that's one thing you know I like ask that you don't look to those questions was like I probably haven't plugged in the house community as much as I want to you know be but you know you kind of use all these things that are out there but it was kind of a good introspective to look at like oh we should probably in the community a little bit more for sure and also like it it's a good place I guess see what avenues of communication there are it's also really nice list just to see what's out there oh yeah yeah Taylor did a very thorough job of making sure you know all the stuffs out there but I'm also you know we want you to know like these surveys these are there's more surveys like this out there you know I know Stack Overflow does you know development for the year and kind of you know you can see the temperature of who's using what programming leaders is what tools are using stuff like that and so I think this was really nice to kind of dive in this one specifically to dive into high school you know being a mostly high school program right now yeah it was cool to kind of put in my input yeah for sure I think getting the temperature of the house I mean it is particularly important for our community right right we want to yeah the house community of the whole is kind of you know it's there but it's been under the you know underneath and yeah you know there's not really a lot of Oh high school usually awesome people like you're using high school what's that so yeah giving a survey out like this can you know kind of get you know cuz there's I mean looking at the survey results from the previous years which will link to in the show notes here but you know there's trends you see of like there's people who fill out the survey who have never touched high school but they found it and like that's exposure you know so yeah surveys like this kind of opened up you know opportunities for people to learn about programming languages in our case Haskell yeah for sure it's really good to get some feedback on the accessibility of our community not only in terms of the people in it but also we are sort of in a community where we have very specific at very specific language for talking about things and let me be off-putting to a lot of people I feel like maybe getting people's feedback on that that are not part already part of the community and how they let's sort of internalize this language when they first hear it right it's very interesting ya know and I think that's yeah it's high school seems like this big bad scary thing and I think a lot of people carry that and you know this survey allows us to kind of get the temperature is that really the case or is that just something we're saying yeah so I'm really excited about this year's survey and you know because now we'll have three years of data I know will kind of be maybe analyzing some trends a little bit more I know we want to get this data out to the community and out to the development community as a whole but also the you know more particularly if they ask will community to kind of see oh like you know oh Jose you use Visual Studio like oh there's another thousand people who also use Visual Studio maybe I should give it a try and see what extensions there are and you know packages that will help me be a more effective you know developer for sure um you know when it comes to dealing with Haskell so you know there's a lot of different cool things in there I would definitely recommend all of our listeners here to go check it out it's takes like what five ten minutes yeah I literally filled that out while I was waiting for my food to come out like during lunch today he took the survey which is good you know I got we wanted to be prepared for this podcast so we both took it today but yeah I would definitely recommend everyone to go check it out it is open until November 14th 2019 so be sure to fill that out quick though the time is running out we're of seven days left so by the time it's just now the seventh by the time you guys get this in your hands it may be close to the deadline so please please please go go check it out but yeah yet you know they're like what has been your feedback and experience with other surveys like what how does Hass will start breaking pear oh I'll take that many survey so I'm so but this one was like I took it not only because I know Taylor but also because I do care about this language and community and I think it's a very quick and very effective way to help out our community and hopefully sort of be a little nudge in the right direction right yeah yeah I don't take a lot of surveys either so I really a lot of questions I'm sorry but okay you know it's one of the things that nobody has really a lot of time to take surveys but I definitely encourage all of you to check it out but I think we're gonna keep this episode short was anything else you want to touch on Oh not really but yeah we just wanted to get the word out about the survey and encourage you guys to if you're listening to go ahead and fill that out Chiquito good Oh bro um awesome well guys thank you for joining us Jose thank you for being on the 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