STEVE SZABO:

That's exactly right and I think this is the important point that we have to keep in mind in trying to develop our own sanction policy because we don't want to penalize our own companies. Our economic stake is much smaller than the European or the German stake, but it's still there and there are certain companies that are trying to make, that have some substantial investments, let's say, in Russia. So I think that what the Germans are trying to do is to try to find some sort of solution to send a signal to Russia that this is being taken very seriously, but at the other hand they realize that they are in a situation where they really can't afford to take serious economic sanctions because the impact on their economy would be quite substantial. Don't forget that they get about a third of their energy — their gas and their oil — directly from Russia, so this would have a devastating impact on their economy. So it's a bit like the U.S.-China relationship. We have a lot of problems with the Chinese, but at the same time we have this very strong economic relationship which really limits what we can do.