On Friday, Washington, D.C. power couple and law-firm partners Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing were on Sebastian Gorka’s radio talk show, “America First,” talking about the genesis of the collusion delusion … otherwise known as the Russian hoax … the President has called it a coup. They have no doubt who is responsible.

Attorneys diGenova and Toensing are fully convinced it was former CIA Director John Brennan who originated “the conspiracy to spy on domestic political opponents in the United States and to do what he did to frame Donald Trump.”

Gorka introduced the segment with his guests by talking about a “hero” that is about to take center stage when he testifies … former NSA Director Admiral Michael Rogers.

“Admiral Rogers discovered illegal spying by FBI contractors and revealed it to the FISA Court on his own without the permission of the FBI director or the Attorney general or the Secretary of Defense or the National Security Council and started a collapse,” said diGenova, “… a domino collapse of all the illegal activity. That’s why he shut down all FBI contractors from accessing NSA data. Judge Collier, the chief judge of the FISA Court, went ballistic and she refused to authorize FISA warrants for a period of time because of this.”

“Let’s be clear here,” said Gorka. “(Rogers) is the director of the NSA during the Obama Administration. … he found out this illegal surveillance had been going on for how long Joe?”

“We believe between three and four years,” diGenova replied.

According to diGenova and Toensing, the spying American citizens had been going on well before the 2016 election spying. They tracked it back to at least 2012.

“Our understanding is it got beefed up in the year around the election,” said Toensing.

“Admiral Rogers is talking to people now. … He doesn’t have any choice, but he will willingly testify about what he discovered what happened and why he was so disturbed about what the FBI had been doing,” said diGenova.

Gorka asked who thought it was a good idea to start spying on Americans.

“Joe and I are (sure) that it started with Brennan. He was the brains behind it because Clapper’s really too dumb,” said Toensing.

“Clapper … let me be clear here. Clapper … was director of the DIA in the 1990s. This is from a friend of mine in the DIA,” said Gorka. “(Clapper) decided in 1991 it would be a good idea … it’s not a joke, it’s unclassified … you can look it up … it would be a good idea to give the SVR resident, meaning the KGB resident, the chief of station in Washington, a pink all-access Pentagon badge because we’re buddies now. This is the quality of people we’re talking about … a pink all-access Pentagon badge for the head of espionage in the Russian federal embassy here in the United States. (This was) before the DIA’s senior service said, ‘we are all going to resign, General Clapper if you do this.'”

“There’s no doubt,” said diGenova, “that John Brennan is the core of the entire conspiracy to spy on domestic political opponents in the United States and to do what he did to frame Donald Trump. Brennan has always been an ugly, ugly person politically, ethically, and morally, and he carried it through to an awful degree when it came to Donald Trump. They viewed the president as an immoral vulgarian who should not have the Oval Office and they were going to do everything they could to either prevent him from being elected or to evict him once he had been elected.”

“… Because they felt that they had the authority and the mandate to subvert the people’s will and to take seditious activity against our Republic,” Gorka added.

Video by “America First with Sebastian Gorka”