

thegeek

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join:2008-02-21

right here thegeek Premium Member I Love Football but $350 is just not worth it IMHO, even when it is working. I'd consider it at maybe $150 for the season.



poopiepants

join:2003-10-04

King, NC poopiepants Member Re: I Love Football Do yourself a favor and just get a OTA antenna and watch it for free if you live in the boonies.

88615298 (banned)

join:2004-07-28

West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member Re: I Love Football said by poopiepants: Do yourself a favor and just get a OTA antenna and watch it for free if you live in the boonies.

because I can get Tampa stations from 700 miles away. Where is this magical antenna?



Caddyroger

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said by poopiepants: Do yourself a favor and just get a OTA antenna and watch it for free if you live in the boonies.

Can I get the Detroit Lions games in Seattle Wa 1900 miles away



sykocus

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said by poopiepants: Do yourself a favor and just get a OTA antenna and watch it for free if you live in the boonies.

There's an antenna that lets me receive chargers games 6000miles away?



Bunnies

@keyoncom.net Bunnies Anon Re: I Love Football go to nfl.com and get the "game rewind". I only paid $30 for the entire 17 week season. You can't watch it during the games on sunday but instead you watch them a day later, but you can watch them multiple times, any game whenever you want, archives go back several years, and you can actually watch EVERY game each week, unlike sunday ticket where you can watch any game but only when it plays on sunday or monday.

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said by thegeek: but $350 is just not worth it IMHO, even when it is working. I'd consider it at maybe $150 for the season. They aren't going to offer it for less than half the price they make Directv customers pay. Also being "worth it" depends. If your not a fan of a popular team that's on TV all the time what else are you going to do?



thegeek

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join:2008-02-21

right here 3 recommendations thegeek Premium Member Re: I Love Football I just read about the Chiefs losing the next day. It's actually less painful that watching the games.



woody7

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Got rid of Dish, got Direct TV for two years one guaranteed for 40$ a month first year, not more than 75 second year, figure average and +/-$65each year which is cheaper than Dish would go, got the NFLPackage for free first year, won't next season, seems ok, been watching on computers, not bad, but do get the out of market games, but not worth $350 though and do love football, just record the games I can't watch. Go Jets!!



juststopinby

@silohost.com juststopinby Anon Re: I Love Football If you just signed up for this you may want to double check the fine print. The free sunday ticket offer they are running with new service right now locks you into paying for it next year



woody7

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Torrance, CA woody7 Premium Member Re: I Love Football checked the fine print, and I don't have to purchase next year, bought through Sams club.



kdwycha

join:2003-01-30

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said by juststopinby : If you just signed up for this you may want to double check the fine print. The free sunday ticket offer they are running with new service right now locks you into paying for it next year

Thats BS. It auto-renews at early bird special next year but you can cancel it prior to auto-renewal and it will not be on the bill.



Caddyroger

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said by woody7: Got rid of Dish, got Direct TV for two years one guaranteed for 40$ a month first year, not more than 75 second year, figure average and +/-$65each year which is cheaper than Dish would go, got the NFLPackage for free first year, won't next season, seems ok, been watching on computers, not bad, but do get the out of market games, but not worth $350 though and do love football, just record the games I can't watch. Go Jets!!

What happens if there to many trees that you can not cut down blocks the signal?



stvnbrs

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I did Sunday Ticket with D-TV to watch my team from out of region a couple seasons ago. Big rip-off. The cost didn't include HD ($20 more per month) and if the game was going to show on local channel, ST didn't broadcast. Monday Night, Thursday and Sunday Night games are not included. Also, beware, they will automatically renew the next year.



I had D-TV sub on hold for 6 month while moving due to home being built, hold status dropped after 6 months and in January I got a bill for the entire previous season! I was charged so much with D-Tv that they couldn't even refund me in full as it was more than their system would allow. After calling back the next month to get the rest of my credit, I immediately canceled my sub for direct and never looked back. (Btw, have fun returning that nice receiver you leased from BB for $300.)

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member Re: I Love Football said by stvnbrs: I did Sunday Ticket with D-TV to watch my team from out of region a couple seasons ago. Big rip-off. The cost didn't include HD ($20 more per month) and if the game was going to show on local channel, ST didn't broadcast.



Well then all you'd have to do is turn it to your local station and you could watch the game. What is the issue? Monday Night, Thursday and Sunday Night games are not included. All games are in HD and that's free. No extra charge. It has been that way for a few years now.Well then all you'd have to do is turn it to your local station and you could watch the game. What is the issue?Why should they be? And DirecTv never advertised they were. If you had DirecTv then you had access to NBC which shows Sunday Night, ESPN which shows Monday Night and NFL Network which shows Thursday Night. So once again what is the issue?



stvnbrs

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join:2009-03-17

Cary, NC stvnbrs Premium Member Re: I Love Football Well it seems you were eager to argue, so here are more specific points:



HD was not free when I did the package, it was extra, bundled in with the superfan. Any additional "features" from ST were not available when watching the standard broadcast, not a big deal, but some may not appreciate it. The team I wanted to watch (SF) was in the same conference as my location (then, AZ). 1 Monday night game, 2 regular broadcast games, and 2 or so that were regularly broadcast as it didn't compete with local team meant that there were about 1/3 of the season that wasn't covered in ST for my team. I do like football, and choosing the game was nice, but not why I initially got the service.



For me, the price ended up being too high for what I got. It comes down to money, but many of the things I mentioned were not well known before I picked up the service. I believe that had I had more information, I would not have gone through with the package. This is just my personal experience.

stvnbrs stvnbrs Premium Member Re: I Love Football I never purported to know how ST was currently, only turn-offs as to why I don't use it. I was a customer and due to issues present during my sub, I canceled both ST and Direct-TV.



Any additional features of the ST broadcast ( I belive pop-ins and such) were only available when watching the ST broadcast, this is fine until they make you watch the standard network broadcast of the game. If you were looking forward to the xtras while watching your team, you may not get them for every game due to this stipulation.



Blackout restrictions and Sunday Night games seem a bit much based on the price of the package and short length of the season, so know that there is still a chance you won't get to watch your game if you are using this as your only football option.



Remember, ST is now available for PS3, so if it doesn't play there, cord-cutters will miss out.



footballdude

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said by thegeek: but $350 is just not worth it IMHO, even when it is working. I'd consider it at maybe $150 for the season.





I really think the only reason this is still around is for people that are big fans of a team they can't see on regular tv. When I first got the NFL Sunday Ticket package, it was $120 for the season. Well worth it. The price went up every year. When HD became available, they added a $99 surcharge for that. Now it's become ridiculously expensive. I don't order it anymore. With three games on Sunday afternoon (CBS and Fox), another on Sunday night (NBC), another on Monday night (ESPN), and three games replayed on the NFL channel during the week with mics on the players and coaches, I get all the football I can handle without paying all that extra money.I really think the only reason this is still around is for people that are big fans of a team they can't see on regular tv.



dvd536

as Mr. Pink as they come

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Phoenix, AZ dvd536 Premium Member Re: I Love Football said by footballdude: said by thegeek: but $350 is just not worth it IMHO, even when it is working. I'd consider it at maybe $150 for the season.

When I first got the NFL Sunday Ticket package, it was $120 for the season. Well worth it. The price went up every year. When HD became available, they added a $99 surcharge for that. Now it's become ridiculously expensive. I don't order it anymore. With three games on Sunday afternoon (CBS and Fox), another on Sunday night (NBC), another on Monday night (ESPN), and three games replayed on the NFL channel during the week with mics on the players and coaches, I get all the football I can handle without paying all that extra money. What fun is watching replays when you know the score already?



footballdude

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Imperial, MO footballdude Premium Member Re: I Love Football said by dvd536: What fun is watching replays when you know the score already?

Hearing what the players say to each other on the sidelines and in the huddle. Hearing what the coaches are thinking in different situations. Watching the entire game with the fluff taken out so that it only takes an hour. It's good stuff.



BigRay5264

join:2004-03-14

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said by thegeek: but $350 is just not worth it IMHO, even when it is working. I'd consider it at maybe $150 for the season.

works out to $20/wk...I'd spend way more than $20 going to sports bar to watch football every Sunday...small price to pay if you are a fan of an out of market team



hhawkman

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join:2001-02-08

Port Hueneme, CA hhawkman Premium Member Re: I Love Football said by BigRay5264: works out to $20/wk...I'd spend way more than $20 going to sports bar to watch football every Sunday...small price to pay if you are a fan of an out of market team

Exactly. Not to mention the DUI Roulette afterwards.



Camelot One

MVM

join:2001-11-21

Greenwood, IN 1 recommendation Camelot One MVM And why not? "Broadband stream viewers who aren't DirecTV subscribers are being told they won't get partial credits because they cannot be given partial refunds."



Exactly why the hell not? They figured out how to take their money, they can figure out how to give some of it back.

chastech84

join:2011-07-16

Winfield, IL chastech84 Member Competition If the fact that Directv isnt going to credit non customers for their fail of a ps3 setup than this is just further proof that NFLs model of exclusivity hurts consumers as companies dont need to try to produce a satisfactory product.

88615298 (banned)

join:2004-07-28

West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member They will offer credits As soon as this negitive publicity really hits and when some Senaotr asks Directv CEO to appear before the Senate to explain.



stvnbrs

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Cary, NC stvnbrs Premium Member Re: They will offer credits Depends on how many congressmen/women DirectTV can afford, if they are like AT&T, they will be fine.



coldmoon

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said by 88615298: As soon as this negitive publicity really hits and when some Senaotr asks Directv CEO to appear before the Senate to explain.





You didn't miss much as most of the games were one-sided blowouts, especially the Colts game; so you came out ahead and should fight to make sure you get a credit, but this doesn't rise to the level of a congressional hearing or even the time it would take to call your rep or Senators.



Get a grip man - there are going to be a lot more games and the team performances should get a lot better... Are you serious??? Why would congress waste their time with something like OMG! people missed Sunday Ticket - call home the troops and storm the DTV NOC!You didn't miss much as most of the games were one-sided blowouts, especially the Colts game; so you came out ahead and should fight to make sure you get a credit, but this doesn't rise to the level of a congressional hearing or even the time it would take to call your rep or Senators.Get a grip man - there are going to be a lot more games and the team performances should get a lot better...

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member Re: They will offer credits said by coldmoon: Are you serious??? Why would congress waste their time with something like OMG! people missed Sunday Ticket - call home the troops and storm the DTV NOC! Why did Congress have the NCAA come testify as why div-1A college football doesn't have a playoff a few months back?



coldmoon

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Fulton, NY coldmoon Premium Member Re: They will offer credits said by 88615298: said by coldmoon: Are you serious??? Why would congress waste their time with something like OMG! people missed Sunday Ticket - call home the troops and storm the DTV NOC!

Why did Congress have the NCAA come testify as why div-1A college football doesn't have a playoff a few months back? What does investigating potential corruption in college bowl games have to do with a poorly coded streaming service? It was out for everyone, not just those who didn't pay "extra"...

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member Re: They will offer credits said by coldmoon: said by 88615298: said by coldmoon: Are you serious??? Why would congress waste their time with something like OMG! people missed Sunday Ticket - call home the troops and storm the DTV NOC!

Why did Congress have the NCAA come testify as why div-1A college football doesn't have a playoff a few months back?

What does investigating potential corruption in college bowl games have to do with a poorly coded streaming service? It was out for everyone, not just those who didn't pay "extra"... YOU were the one that said that millions of people having millions of dollars being taken form them is not important enough to be concern with but somehow making sure there is a college football playoff is important.



coldmoon

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Fulton, NY coldmoon Premium Member Re: They will offer credits said by 88615298: YOU were the one that said that millions of people having millions of dollars being taken form them is not important enough to be concern with but somehow making sure there is a college football playoff is important.

No, I said nothing of the kind. What I DID say was that a technical glitch in a streaming service that will most likely be addressed through partial refunds or some type of credit for affected customers does not merit the attention of Congress while rampant corruption in amateur sports is a more appropriate topic for investigation.



battleop

join:2005-09-28

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Well they did waste their time on investigating steroids in baseball.

hottboiinnc4

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Cleveland, OH hottboiinnc4 Member Free DirecTV offers NFL Sunday ticket free to customers on most packages now.

Mr Matt

join:2008-01-29

Eustis, FL Mr Matt Member Remember it's a package! Remember it's a package just like that bag of hot wet mixed fertilizer you buy at the home improvement store! Remember it's a package just like that bag of hot wet mixed fertilizer you buy at the home improvement store!



gigahurtz

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join:2001-10-20

USA gigahurtz Premium Member I had this when I had DTV..



My bro-in-law has DTV and I tried to use his online log in yesterday and it was horrible quality. I was able to get it online from "another" source which was much better overall.



All I could hope for is that Brighthouse eventually carries RedZone Channel and NFL Network and I'll be completely happy without the Sunday Ticket. and I don't think I'll ever order it again. I admit it's nice to be able to switch through all the games on a Sunday afternoon but it's just not worth the price. I had it for free when I first signed up, they auto enrolled me the second season even though I called and canceled (ended up keeping it cause they discounted it) and then I got it for free the third season. After the third season, I ended up canceling DTV and going with the local cable company.My bro-in-law has DTV and I tried to use his online log in yesterday and it was horrible quality. I was able to get it online from "another" source which was much better overall.All I could hope for is that Brighthouse eventually carries RedZone Channel and NFL Network and I'll be completely happy without the Sunday Ticket.



baineschile

2600 ways to live

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Sterling Heights, MI baineschile Premium Member REDZONE NFL RedZone > Sunday Ticket.



Significantly.



FlyBoyMark

@bellsouth.net FlyBoyMark Anon Deep Stroked again, Uh? Deleting the thread jus' goes to show you what kind of despicable company Direct TV is considering THEY are the ones that failed in their fiduciary duties to produce a product they charged for. That's why I dropped them like a dead fish 3 years ago......

SlyLoK6

join:2007-10-19

Sugar Grove, VA SlyLoK6 Member Not interested.. For me to even entertain the idea of buying Sunday Ticket or any form of it again would require them to offer a 1 , 3 and 7 team packages at a significantly reduced price.

chances14

join:2010-03-03

Michigan chances14 Member wow 350 bucks? i get nhl center ice for less than half of that and way more games. thank god my favorite sport is a niche sport in the states



maartena

Elmo

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Orange, CA maartena Premium Member The whole "blackout" rules need to be revamped.... All major sports seem to have ridiculously tight black out rules, with ridiculous prices attached to packages to watch it all. I personally believe people don't WANT to watch ALL games, but they might follow 2, 3 maybe 4 teams at most.



So you get your home team in your local market. They should make it that if you want to follow an out-of-market team, you pay to see that team. Customize your package any way you want to. Seattle Seahawks, New York Jets, and St. Louis Rams. Charge $10 per team per month, or offer a "full price" like the $340 for everything. You'd break even by buying about 6 teams, so then you would get the full package.



I bet you anything that you would get a lot more cash flow this way. I myself wouldn't mind spending $10 a month extra to add the Toronto Maple Leafs (I am hockey fan) to my NHL, in addition to the Ducks and Kings I already get, and maybe adding the Toronto Blue Jays as an extra baseball team. But I am not shelling out hundreds of dollars for NHL Center Ice and MLB extra Innings, because I simply won't watch that many games.



Now, DirecTV offers all the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA channels, etc, so if you buy a team, you get access to that channel when the team plays. Maybe instead of $10 for a team, it will be $12 for a team that includes the online internet stream, in case you travel a lot.



Basically, and "a-la-carte" system for pro sports teams. I'm thinking if you price it right, you will still keep plenty of customers that "want it all" and get the full NFL Sunday Ticket package, and you will get a LOT of customers that are out of market, and follow the team they once grew up with.

Kearnstd

Space Elf

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Mullica Hill, NJ Kearnstd Premium Member Re: The whole "blackout" rules need to be revamped.... I have heard rumors its actually against some rule bypass blackouts. so for example if a sports event is blacked out in Philly, Comcast cant for some dumb reason just show people the west coast feed even though they do pull in that feed to their system.



Though I honestly wonder what legal ground a league would have against a cable operator if they did bring in a different feed so their customers could still see the game. its not an FCC issue as the FCC cannot tell Comcast in Philly they MUST only show the east coast feed of say ESPN.

TheMG

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TheMG Premium Member That's just... sad. If it was a free service, and it didn't work, sucks, but it's not the end of the world.



However if I did spend $350 (hypothetically speaking, as I personally wouldn't spend a penny on football) and it didn't work flawlessly, and I was offered no refund or only a very small credit, hell I'd be PISSED!



Huge FAIL by DirecTV!

mmay149q

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join:2009-03-05

Dallas, TX mmay149q Premium Member So I guess..... That $29 a month to watch all football games all the time from the NFL isn't that bad, but there's just no way I could justify paying $350 all at once for this crap, in fact I can't even believe they can get away with that, even though it may be the nose bleed section, can't you just get a ticket for that much and have the fun of enjoying the game live instead? Geevus.



Matt

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member Re: So I guess..... said by mmay149q: That $29 a month to watch all football games all the time from the NFL isn't that bad, but there's just no way I could justify paying $350 all at once for this crap, in fact I can't even believe they can get away with that, even though it may be the nose bleed section, can't you just get a ticket for that much and have the fun of enjoying the game live instead? Geevus.



Matt

Actually DirceTv offers payments over 5 months and the PS3 verison is paid over 4 months.

mmay149q

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Dallas, TX mmay149q Premium Member Re: So I guess..... Yeah but even on PS3 that's $87.50 a month, plus why would I want to pay all that $$$ for not even a full year of play, when I could just torrent them and not have to deal with everyone in the USA's products being shoved down my throat every 2 minutes due to commercials...



Matt



JOEJOE

@wideopenwest.com JOEJOE Anon Lame Ticket They don't broadcast any games within your viewing area including any prime time game via sunday ticket or mobile!!! So if your out of state or on a road trip in your car you cannot watch your favorite team via online pc or your phone! Which makes mobile pretty much useless to me.

88615298 (banned)

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West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member Re: Lame Ticket said by JOEJOE : They don't broadcast any games within your viewing area including any prime time game via sunday ticket or mobile!!! So if your out of state or on a road trip in your car you cannot watch your favorite team via online pc or your phone! Which makes mobile pretty much useless to me.

Actually Sunday Night football is streamed online. It's also streamed over your phone if you have Verizon. NFL Network's games are also available over mobile if you have Verizon.



PapaBrew

@sbcglobal.net PapaBrew Anon DirecTV fumbles Based on the online backlash today, I think it is safe to say that DirecTV completely failed to have in place the Internet backhaul from their servers and/or server capacity to support the number of customers that they added. I'd guess that the engineers probably had a good idea of what was needed but the bean counters probably said let's just use what we have and see if we can save a few million. I'm just glad the media was on this today. If it isn't any better this Sunday, the national media might start running with the story with the hell people will be raising.



On the topic of why isn't Sunday Ticket available for local cable providers, Peter King did a good article on that maybe last year. Basically it boiled down to the agreements with the league and their biggest advertisers (beer, beer, beer) and wanting to make people go to a bar to watch out of market games and drink their product "responsibly".



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14

Weirton, WV mikedz4 Member Re: DirecTV fumbles the main problem was comcast put in a bid they thought was reasonable. BUT Directv somehow way outbid them and comcast withdrew it's bid.

When it is up for renewal I'm sure the nfl will work something out with comcast since comcast now owns NBC and they have 30million subscribers.

Ricanlegend

join:2011-05-18

Bronx, NY Ricanlegend Member Easy solution Call your credit card company and tell them you never authorize the $350 that directv charged and the credit card company will always site with there customer and refund you that money

88615298 (banned)

join:2004-07-28

West Tenness 88615298 (banned) Member Re: Easy solution said by Ricanlegend: Call your credit card company and tell them you never authorize the $350 that directv charged and the credit card company will always site with there customer and refund you that money





B) DirecTv can prove your IP address logged into the service. A) Except that you have to you have to log in using your DirecTv ID.B) DirecTv can prove your IP address logged into the service.

Rekrul

join:2007-04-21

Milford, CT Rekrul Member WOW! I can't believe that DirecTV would do something like this with something so important. I mean, everyone needs to have a way to see these things, especially as the fate of nations, or possibly the entire world hinge on the outcome of these games!



Oh wait, I forgot it's just a bunch of guys in costumes standing around for three-plus hours, with an occasional 30 seconds of running and throwing a ball back and forth...



Q: There's 3:00 left on the clock, how soon will the game be over so that regular programming can resume?

A: About 20-30 minutes.



Q: What does "Time approximated after football" mean?

A: It means "Don't even bother trying to watch the next show because there will only be about 20 minutes left in the hour timeslot and the network will fill it with an old sitcom episode."



Q: What's the percentage of football games that have ended without running over the allotted three-hour timeslot?

A: About 0.001%



Q: Ok, so the game has ended and it only ran about five minutes over. Can I watch my show now?

A: Nope. Now they have to spend another 20 minutes discussing what just happened.



Q: If the games always run over time, why doesn't the network allot a four-hour timeslot to them, so that they can schedule other programs accordingly?

A: And possibly lose money if the game doesn't run a full four hours? Are you INSANE???



Q: Why is it that every other show has to take a backseat to football? The games always run over time and they preempt everything else to make room for it. Shouldn't the network play the shows that are scheduled?

A: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You actually want scheduled shows to take priority over the perfection known as "Football?" What kind of a stupid, faggot loser are you? How dare you not worship the greatest sport in the entire history of the universe!

MrHappy316

Wish I had my tank

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join:2003-01-02

Columbia, SC MrHappy316 Premium Member Too many free giveaways Guess too many people getting it for free overloaded the system. I enjoyed my free weekend of Sunday Ticket and Redzone but will lose it next week. No big deal, DirecTV is stupid to think I would pay $300+ to watch Sunday Ticket. If I do not have my game on a network channel a quick 1 mile drive to any bar will get it or me. As long as I can get all the college games I need were fine.



If they were smart they would offer me Redzone for $50 bucks for the season, only NFL paid content I would play for the season