According to Fox Business Network host Stuart Varney, President Trump doesn’t lie to the American people. That was his claim during an interview with former Illinois GOP Rep. and potential primary challenger to President Trump, Joe Walsh, this Friday.

During the exchange, Walsh repeatedly called Trump a liar, prompting Varney, who is a consistent defender of Trump, to ask Walsh to cite some specific examples. Walsh mentioned recent reports saying that the White House admitted Trump’s claim that he was involved in “high level” phone calls with China over trade was actually just an effort to boost markets.

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“That’s not a lie,” Varney shot back. “If the man said, and he did, that high-level talks had been held with China, that is not a lie — they were held with China.”

Walsh countered, asking Varney how he could possibly say Trump’s actions weren’t misleading.

“Stuart, he said there were high-level phone calls with Chinese officials, his staff admitted that was not true, that he lied in order to manipulate the market,” Walsh said.

Varney brushed Walsh off and asked him to provide another example, but Walsh was insistent on making his point.

“Stuart, do you believe this president lies?” Walsh asked.

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“No,” Varney replied.

“You don’t believe he’s ever lied?” Walsh asked incredulously.

Varney replied that Trump only “exaggerates and spins.”

Walsh asked again if Varney thinks Trump lies, to which the Fox host said, “No.”

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Walsh wasn’t the only one baffled by Varney’s defense of Trump, especially after the interview made it’s way around Twitter.

#StuartVarney is the perfect example of a cult member. Zero credibility. https://t.co/eIeIuTxE9X — USCThug (@USCThug) August 30, 2019

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This exchange between Stuart Varney and Joe Walsh is oddly reminiscent of the torture scenes from "1984." Varney challenges Walsh: Name an example ofTrump lying. Walsh names one. Varney denies it. Walsh: "Do you believe he's ever told the American people a lie?" Varney: "No." pic.twitter.com/XkDTJEk1dA — Eric Kleefeld (@EricKleefeld) August 30, 2019

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Im surprised @WalshFreedom was able to keep it together. This is the equivalent of him telling Stuart Varney that the sky was blue and Varney replying "no. It isn't. You are wrong. Next" https://t.co/Zku8CYxQJU — Brian Wilkins (@bwilkins0518) August 30, 2019

Stuart Varney just lost any credibility he’s ever had. This is ludicrous. He didn’t argue that the aides were wrong. He simply argued that Trump said the calls happened, so it’s not a lie. Spineless sycophants pic.twitter.com/7LXuzLIQya — Country Before Party (@PartisanH8r) August 30, 2019

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Stuart Varney just made a colossal ass out of himself yet again. @WalshFreedom owns the man and proves how in the tank @foxnews is for @realDonaldTrump …remarkable https://t.co/l2EwOXp54W — Buford T Justice (@TexasJoeDuck) August 30, 2019

Watch the full exchange below: