From: Dante Gates

Sent: 2016-04-30 18:23:00

To: Internet Terrorists

Gentlemen its been a pleasure, some of you are amungst the best I've flown with. However enlight of recent events and corp decisions I have decided its best we parted ways. I've voiced my concerns and opinions several times, and although at first I disagreed with SMA leaderships decision to move out to Outer Ring I have since been convinced why its best that we stay and support the alliance IN Outer Ring.

Granted some of you are probably thinking that N0ObZ is still in SMA and plans to support SMA in all its needs from Vsig-K as its only 5 jumps. Lets not bullshit fellas, this isnt the case. Prime is example is ECHRE. who has recently made the decision to leave SMA as they never agreed with the Outer Ring move and staged straight out of there from the git-go.

With the later being said, I will say this to all of you again, we can't defend SMA assets, nor can we help rebuild SMA from a different region. I for one don't plan on leaving for Vsig-K as I have said it many times before IM NOT READY TO GIVE UP ON THIS ALLIANCE.

To those of you who might still feel a since of loyalty to the alliance, and feel the same as I do, Toonlad has indeed set up a new corporation as a bastion for us, and you are welcome to join us in Evolution. any time. the corperation will be in SMA by roughly 17:20 tomorrow.

This isn't Personal, This isn't an attempt to poach. Martyr you've been great and are only want what is best for N0Obz, but I know where this is going, I've seen it all too many times before. N0Obz is a great corperation, I agree this corporation has done alot for SMA, but with that being said I still think we do owe them something... Loyalty.

Once again gentlemen, Its truly been a pleasure.

SIncerely,

Dante Gates

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Re: Regards

From: Susannah Johnson

Sent: 2016-04-30 20:47:00

To: Internet Terrorists, Dante Gates

Dante,

If you're not poaching, don't.

This is a diplomatic statement of poaching claiminig it's not. Like hillary clintin committing fruad and claiming she didnt.

Your alligiance should always be toyour corp m8's first.

That is why this and every corp i've ever seen break as many times has had it happen. Because people feel that they OWE someone something. Loyalty?

Earn it

Maybe I'm annoyed, but SMA didnt show loyalty when it left Goons so soon in the game.

Seriously mis-leading itself to believe that it could leave because it needs a break.

If you leave its cause your pussying out, plain and simple.

As far as I'm converened, the goons were fighting somethign that sma started.

Borrowing imoney it hasnt returned and then kicking one of the bankers that loaned it fro the alliance, claiming api selling.

I call BULLSHIT, I've been playing this game far too long to see wher ethis is going for this alliance.

Corruption at the top begets brown nosers and ass kissers and yay sayers, not a strong base of thought.

Welsome to Hillary Radum Trump SMA.

We should have moved to seranen when the goons said to, yeah we werent informed, thats not the excuse because some of the heads up that are still here, much like theones that left. DID not tell us, and we dragged out 4 months of "what" good eiriences and all taht, but the sov is lost and the sov will not be back in SMA hands in a long fucking time. Goons remmeber who stayed and who left. yeah keep thinking you can go back.

keep thinking that you will build the citadells in the back pocket before the enemy and still be able to defend them.... oh wait, you were choosing to hold off and see what happens with citadells.

LOL

Dante, pissoff

Stay in N0OBs or leave. But stop trying to poach people, and yeah, change your tag, it still reads N0OBZ

If you go to some other corp, N0OBs will still rebuild, but damn, you were one of the little ones crying when Minie3 broke off werent you. Now this.

SMA needs to earn OUR LOYALTY. NOT the other way around.

SMA needs to earn ALL F ITS CORPS LOYALTY after that fade fiasco as far as i see it.

the fact that N0OBS stay this long, with an alliance that is currently making small short sighted steps is beyond me. SMA used to stand for friends and loyalty.

The leadership to me, all of the leadership, seems to be like CCP. Self congratulating fools that will go wherever it things it ought to go, makes dicisions rashly on very short notice, and then comes up with small minded ideas to keep peoples interest.

You guys were like goons fucked us over, no they didnt, we fucked ourselves.

and then we took a look a the shit space and said HAY lets go there.

then RIVER goes and says, i ratted in a hurricane..... a hurricane. a ship we're not supposed to be bring ing here because it was not doctrine. and he maid... what did he said 100 mil in an hour? HA ok, no i dont think so. as IVY who rats more ofthen than him and she'll tell you exactly how bad the ratting is.

And I'm sorry patricio? mr "i'm going to tell pwned where blues are so that pwned can get some kills after they got booted" patricio?

oh i met some people at the eve meet and one of them was in pwned and said that as much. and i knew it damned well wasn not MY ASS telling reds where friends and blues and allies were travelling for easy kills

thats the guy the alliance made head FC?

if they have full api's im sure they can verify this

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so yeah SMA owes its CORPS, not the other way around.

and negativity of this level is not unchecked, i've talked about it before, but always seem to be ignored and left unanswered.

If SMA wants MY loyalty, they need to proove their loyalty to N0OBZ first and foremost.

AND DANTE

the only way into that "other regional pocket" IS through Outer Ring, so saying it that way just makes you look a fool. As though you were thinking that you were talking to people that didnt knwo any better. It's 5 jumps. and more secure. It's a better move

so stop trying to make N0OBZ look "bad". N0OBZ did NOTHING wrong, SMA did. SMA also waited... sorry RIVER waited too long and made the bad choice of moving here, which is part of the reason why so many corps left the alliance.

So to your regards... pissoff m8

Suzy J

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From: Number 817

Sent: 2016-05-01 15:17:00

To: Internet Terrorists, Martyr Dienekes

I wrote a wall of text, but deleted it.

I instead replaced it with this, to quote CCP_fuckhisnameican'trememberit:

"http://38.media.tumblr.com/7feea8aecf901a479073679a67e57eb7/tumblr_nad5zwoL2G1tjxhcdo1_250.gif"

I must comment on Toon's move, though, it was shit. And he comes in the other day, with only elsemus and I present on our corp's channel, saying that he feels people are avoiding him. No shit, Toon. Also I can understand Dante, since he's Toon's director in the new corp as far as I understood, so he's indeed "not poaching", just sending the public mail out to the corp, after Toon's selective fuck up. Still shit diplomacy, coming from a diplomat. Considering the politicians of SMA and their moves more recently, my will of staying in this alliance is growing dim. I must say I appreciate River's efforts of taking out fleets by himself, classes as well, but I'm not sure I'm entirely happy with whom he's surrounded himself with.

Nuff said. I'm a N0OB. You N0OBZ better make up your minds now and speak up, Marty seems to be holding your back and he sure as fuck is listening to what you want, so let's get moving, I wanna do shit!

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Re: My opinion

From: Martyr Dienekes

Sent: 2016.05.01 13:55

To: Internet Terrorists, Number 817,

they dont need to, we are aware that skyteam have characters in N0OBZ as 3 members of the corp took roles. personally i am all about accountability and visability, I will never hide corp matters from the corp just to keep out someone whome it doesnt concern.

having said that give me some time to reply to Dante lol

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My opinion

From: Number 817

Sent: 2016.05.01 12:02

To: Internet Terrorists,

I'm not sharing it, cuz diplos are snooping through corp mails via their API records >.<

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Re: Regards

From: Lucas Kell

Sent: 2016-05-01 21:53:00

To: Internet Terrorists, Dante Gates

Turns out EVE gate sucks, so once more with formatting. My bad for spamming :p

Just wanted to chime in on this.

The way I see it, I understand why some people want to move their moneymaking assets to vsig, and am perfectly fine with that as long as people are still getting in fleets. While it's technically a different region, it is a pocket that only connects to OR and it's one of the advertised benefits of us living where we do, that we have rapid access to these pockets, so using them isn't a bad thing.

Even f it's N0OBZ policy to move to vsig, those of us that don't particularly want or need to don't have to, we can continue living straight out of 4C, and I fully intend to. I don't see how splitting the corp down into two different cops solves any problems, it just adds a further layer of division when times are already tough. I've been a monkey longer than I've been in this corp, so my loyalty lies with SMA, but without a very good reason to change corp tag (such as a decision for our corp to leave SMA, which would see me leap to another SMA alliance faster than you can blink) I'll remain as is.

But yeah, that's my view of it. No hard feelings however other people choose to see it though.

Regards