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Here is what it is about...

All you politicians get to work DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!!



Ok, lets get out there and let our state Legislature know that we do not want this bill passed, and petition them to vote no on this bill. We should keep after thim untill the bill is closed. By bombarding them with e-mails, phone calls, and letters.

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his minions and allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo! The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.



Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!



This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.



To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:



Ammunition Accountability Act

SAMPLE LEGISLATION



An ACT relating to firearms and ammunition; requiring [AGENCY] to establish a statewide database to track coded ammunition manufactured and sold for handguns and assault rifles.



Section 1. Legislative Findings.

The State Legislature hereby finds the following: Each year in the United States, more than 30% of all homicides that involve a gun go unsolved. Handgun ammunition accounts for 80% of all ammunition sold in the United States. Current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by law enforcement. Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations.

(30% go unsolved.. what percentage of homicides will be solved with this technology? How will marking ammo improve solve rates when it can simply be altered before use, and unmarked ammo is currently available.)



Section 2. Definitions. For purposes of this chapter, "coded ammunition" means a bullet carrying a unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile.

(Most ammo is made of lead, simply pulling the bullet and removing the marks on it will render this law null and void. There are plenty of reloaders currently on the market. Criminals will know how to do it and those who do not would have been caught any way.)



Section 3. Prohibition on possession or sale of non-coded ammunition.

1. All handgun and assault weapon ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after January 1, 2009, shall be coded by the manufacturer.

(Impossible to achieve by January 1 of 2009. Current supplies are too large and would have to be destroyed at the cost of Millions to the Ammunition Industry.)

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a. The calibers covered by the coding requirement shall include: .



2. No later than January 1, 2011, all non-coded ammunition for the calibers listed in this

chapter, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, must be disposed.



Section 4. Authority to establish an Ammunition Coding Database.



1. [AGENCY] shall be responsible for establishing and maintaining an Ammunition Coding Database (ACD) containing the following information:



a. Manufacturer registry - Manufacturers shall:



i. Register with [AGENCY] in a manner prescribed by the department through rule; and



ii. Maintain records on the business premises for a period of seven years concerning all sales, loans, and transfers of ammunition, to, from, or within the state.



b. Vendor registry - Vendors shall



i. Register with [AGENCY] in a manner prescribed by the department through rule; and

ii. Record the following information in a format prescribed by the [AGENCY]:



a. The date of the transaction.





b. The name of the transferee.



c. The purchaser's driver's license number or other government issued identification card number



d. The date of birth of the purchaser.



e. The unique identifier of all handgun ammunition or bullets transferred.



f. All other information prescribed by [AGENCY].



iii. Maintain records on the business premises for a period of three years from the date of the recorded purchase.



2. To the greatest extent possible or practical, the ACD shall be built within the framework of existing firearms databases. The ACD shall be operational no later than January 1, 2009.



3. Privacy of individuals is of the utmost importance. Access to information in the ACSD is reserved for key law enforcement personnel and to be released only in connection with a criminal investigation.



NEW SECTION: Section 5. Penalties



1. Any vendor that willfully fails to comply with, or falsifies the records required to be kept by this bill is guilty of a public offense punishable by imprisonment not to exceed one year, and a fine of $1,000.



2. Any manufacturer that fails to comply with the provisions of this section shall be liable for a civil fine of not more than one $1,000 for a first violation, not more than five $5,000 for a second violation, and not more $10,000 for a third and subsequent violation.



3. Any person who willfully destroys, obliterates, or otherwise renders unreadable, the serialization required pursuant to this bill, on any bullet or assembled ammunition is punishable by imprisonment not to exceed one year, and a fine of $1,000.

(So if you fire a bullet is it a criminal offense? Bullets tumbling into a target or body can be damaged. Some break apart. If a bullet breaks into pieces the markings will be damaged.)

NEW SECTION: Section 6. Funding.



1. Establishing and maintaining the ACD shall be funded by an end-user fee not to exceed [COST NUMBER, ESTIMATED AT $0.005 PER BULLET OR ROUND OF AMMUNITION].

( This is the initial cost, what is the down line cost, and sets a precedent of taxation on ammunition at higher rates later. Higher costs means fewer sales. Fewer sales result in layoffs in an economy that can ill afford more layoffs.)



2. There is hereby established the Coded Ammunition Fund for deposit of the end user fees described in this section. Moneys in the fund, upon appropriation, shall be available to the [AGENCY] for infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement, and future development costs of this chapter.

(Creating another Government Agency and more records at what cost? Another punishment for law abiding gun owners. Criminals will be able to get around this by theft, and by simply obliterating the ammunition, and using older ammunition that is not destroyed.)



3. Ammunition manufacturers based within this state may submit a one-time tax credit application for cost of purchasing ammunition coding equipment. All applications must be submitted by January 1, 2009. ( One time tax credit? Ammunition technology changes, as it does will business be allowed to take legitimate machine costs?)



I believe this is unworkable. With the millions of rounds out there it would be years before the old ones were used, and the black market for shells without markings would be tremendous. Are we going to do house to house searches??Here is what it is about...All you politicians get to work DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!!Ok, lets get out there and let our state Legislature know that we do not want this bill passed, and petition them to vote no on this bill. We should keep after thim untill the bill is closed. By bombarding them with e-mails, phone calls, and letters.Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his minions and allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo! The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to: ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm Ammunition Accountability ActSAMPLE LEGISLATIONAn ACT relating to firearms and ammunition; requiring [AGENCY] to establish a statewide database to track coded ammunition manufactured and sold for handguns and assault rifles.Section 1. Legislative Findings.The State Legislature hereby finds the following: Each year in the United States, more than 30% of all homicides that involve a gun go unsolved. Handgun ammunition accounts for 80% of all ammunition sold in the United States. Current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by law enforcement. Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations.(30% go unsolved.. what percentage of homicides will be solved with this technology? How will marking ammo improve solve rates when it can simply be altered before use, and unmarked ammo is currently available.)Section 2. Definitions. For purposes of this chapter, "coded ammunition" means a bullet carrying a unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile.(Most ammo is made of lead, simply pulling the bullet and removing the marks on it will render this law null and void. There are plenty of reloaders currently on the market. Criminals will know how to do it and those who do not would have been caught any way.)Section 3. Prohibition on possession or sale of non-coded ammunition.1. All handgun and assault weapon ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after January 1, 2009, shall be coded by the manufacturer.(Impossible to achieve by January 1 of 2009. Current supplies are too large and would have to be destroyed at the cost of Millions to the Ammunition Industry.)Contact Your Legislatureto ask that the bill in Your State not be passed.Kentucky LegislatureTennessee LegislatureAlabama LegislatureMississippi LegislatureSouth Carolina LegislatureMaryland LegislatureNew Jersey LegislaturePennsylvania LegislatureNew York LegislatureConnecticut LegislatureRhode Island LegislatureMassachusetts LegislatureIllinois LegislatureMissouri LegislatureArizona LegislatureCalifornia LegislatureWashington LegislatureOfficial T-Shirt of HuntTheUS.coma. The calibers covered by the coding requirement shall include: