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Last edit: September 23, 2019, 02:19:35 AM by mprep #9 Quote from: Guy Corem on July 11, 2019, 06:41:44 AM It’s saddened me to see that no credit is given to Grin, from which you forked.



Credit is given to Grin in our white paper and when GitHub is public. We will give credit where it is due.





Quote from: tromp on July 11, 2019, 07:16:02 AM Indeed; this is essentially BitGrin (Grin + Bitcoin emission + mining tax) minus the Grin acknowledgement.



When asked earlier what distinguishes this project from BitGrin, they claimed it has no mining tax, which it now does.



There are key differences between Epic and Grin/Bitgrin, and this difference will increase as we progress on development. And again, we do acknowledge Grin in our white paper and soon to go public GitHub.



The budget emission is 8.8% first year and reduces 1.1% every year until zero. This is relatively much more modest than some coins and will help ensure we can continue developing and promoting. The ultimate goal is to transition from using a foundation to a decentralized autonomous organization. Credit is given to Grin in our white paper and when GitHub is public. We will give credit where it is due.There are key differences between Epic and Grin/Bitgrin, and this difference will increase as we progress on development. And again, we do acknowledge Grin in our white paper and soon to go public GitHub.The budget emission is 8.8% first year and reduces 1.1% every year until zero. This is relatively much more modest than some coins and will help ensure we can continue developing and promoting. The ultimate goal is to transition from using a foundation to a decentralized autonomous organization.

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NewbieActivity: 10Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ August 23, 2019, 05:33:20 PM #36

Quote By having a flexible cipher policy, we can take advantage of opportunities in the mining marketplace to acquire the greatest possible hash power. As certain kinds of hardware stop being economical on other chains, we can make room for them on Epic at a lower price, increasing their return on capital while delivering hash power to the network at a lower marginal cost. As other kinds of ciphers stop being effective, we can diminish or eliminate their allotment on Epic, making room for newer providers.

Can you provide any practical examples of such a policy working in any other PoW cryptocurrencies?



What are the potential attack vectors introduced by having a flexible cipher policy, and how are they mitigated? Section 2.1.4 of the technical whitepaper reads:Can you provide any practical examples of such a policy working in any other PoW cryptocurrencies?What are the potential attack vectors introduced by having a flexible cipher policy, and how are they mitigated?

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NewbieActivity: 9Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ August 29, 2019, 11:09:59 PM

Last edit: September 23, 2019, 02:40:24 AM by mprep #37 Quote from: wesdewayne on August 23, 2019, 05:33:20 PM

Quote By having a flexible cipher policy, we can take advantage of opportunities in the mining marketplace to acquire the greatest possible hash power. As certain kinds of hardware stop being economical on other chains, we can make room for them on Epic at a lower price, increasing their return on capital while delivering hash power to the network at a lower marginal cost. As other kinds of ciphers stop being effective, we can diminish or eliminate their allotment on Epic, making room for newer providers.

Can you provide any practical examples of such a policy working in any other PoW cryptocurrencies?



What are the potential attack vectors introduced by having a flexible cipher policy, and how are they mitigated?

Section 2.1.4 of the technical whitepaper reads:Can you provide any practical examples of such a policy working in any other PoW cryptocurrencies?What are the potential attack vectors introduced by having a flexible cipher policy, and how are they mitigated?

Hi wesdewayne. We asked our developer Todd Lewis, and he replied:



Quote 1. Not at the moment (sorry, very busy with launch preparations), but I believe there are a few projects with a similar system.



2. We think a flexible policy reduces risk. The normal case of a static policy is a subset of the dynamic policy case. I.e, we can always implement a static policy via the dynamic framework. However, we also can respond quickly to changing circumstances in mining and security, which others cannot.

Please let us know if you have any other questions!





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Epic Cash Mainnet Launches September 2, 2019

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We want to give a big THANK YOU to all the dedicated testers and contributors who helped Epic Cash get here.



Be sure to get the latest wallet and miner releases to mine on launch day!



https://epic.tech/downloads/ After almost two years of development and testing, our development team has given the green light to officially launch the Epic Cash Mainnet network on 7 PM UTC Monday, September 2, 2019.We want to give a big THANK YOU to all the dedicated testers and contributors who helped Epic Cash get here.Be sure to get the latest wallet and miner releases to mine on launch day! Hi wesdewayne. We asked our developer Todd Lewis, and he replied:Please let us know if you have any other questions!

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Last edit: September 23, 2019, 02:51:42 AM by mprep #40



Please join our Telegram channel for mining advice here:





We apologize for the mainnet launch delay. In response to feedback for more time to download new wallet release, the Epic Cash team plans to launch the network at 10 PM UTC, September 2rd (3-hour delay from original launch time). We will make a new announcement on Telegram and other social media channels when Mainnet software is available so everyone can prepare to mine when the network starts.



Please stay tuned!





The latest v2.2.2 is now available for download here

https://epic.tech/downloads/



Mainnet is planned to be reset very soon. Please update to the latest software! Our GitLab is available here: https://gitlab.com/epiccash Please join our Telegram channel for mining advice here: https://t.me/EpicMiners We apologize for the mainnet launch delay. In response to feedback for more time to download new wallet release, the Epic Cash team plans to launch the network at 10 PM UTC, September 2rd (3-hour delay from original launch time). We will make a new announcement on Telegram and other social media channels when Mainnet software is available so everyone can prepare to mine when the network starts.Please stay tuned!The latest v2.2.2 is now available for download hereMainnet is planned to be reset very soon. Please update to the latest software!

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NewbieActivity: 6Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ September 19, 2019, 11:35:40 PM

Last edit: September 19, 2019, 11:57:49 PM by CRF #47 Quote from: kaszebe1 on September 17, 2019, 04:32:46 PM Please tell me how to withdraw mined epic coins from icemining.ca .



What is the "other listener option" ??





Hello, it's a 'http' option...I think that will be the only option with this pool for the time being, because it is much easier and almost instant as it goes through the http address...e.g. you specify your ip address and port and the pool sends the coins directly to your wallet....Please note that we are expecting a new GUI wallet for Epic cash any day now, that will simplify the process of sending and managing transactions...the pool is almost ready to start sending payments to miners, it's been work in progress for some time now...



BTW I am a community member that has been involved with the project for some time now, and can vouch that this is a good project, my favorite right now, with some great people involved who genuinely care, and want to promote some good causes not just have the best tech around...Good luck.. Hello, it's a 'http' option...I think that will be the only option with this pool for the time being, because it is much easier and almost instant as it goes through the http address...e.g. you specify your ip address and port and the pool sends the coins directly to your wallet....Please note that we are expecting a new GUI wallet for Epic cash any day now, that will simplify the process of sending and managing transactions...the pool is almost ready to start sending payments to miners, it's been work in progress for some time now...BTW I am a community member that has been involved with the project for some time now, and can vouch that this is a good project, my favorite right now, with some great people involved who genuinely care, and want to promote some good causes not just have the best tech around...Good luck..

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NewbieActivity: 321Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ September 20, 2019, 10:42:52 AM #48 Quote from: CRF on September 19, 2019, 11:35:40 PM Quote from: kaszebe1 on September 17, 2019, 04:32:46 PM Please tell me how to withdraw mined epic coins from icemining.ca .



What is the "other listener option" ??





Hello, it's a 'http' option...I think that will be the only option with this pool for the time being, because it is much easier and almost instant as it goes through the http address...e.g. you specify your ip address and port and the pool sends the coins directly to your wallet....Please note that we are expecting a new GUI wallet for Epic cash any day now, that will simplify the process of sending and managing transactions...the pool is almost ready to start sending payments to miners, it's been work in progress for some time now...



BTW I am a community member that has been involved with the project for some time now, and can vouch that this is a good project, my favorite right now, with some great people involved who genuinely care, and want to promote some good causes not just have the best tech around...Good luck..

Hello, it's a 'http' option...I think that will be the only option with this pool for the time being, because it is much easier and almost instant as it goes through the http address...e.g. you specify your ip address and port and the pool sends the coins directly to your wallet....Please note that we are expecting a new GUI wallet for Epic cash any day now, that will simplify the process of sending and managing transactions...the pool is almost ready to start sending payments to miners, it's been work in progress for some time now...BTW I am a community member that has been involved with the project for some time now, and can vouch that this is a good project, my favorite right now, with some great people involved who genuinely care, and want to promote some good causes not just have the best tech around...Good luck..

Do I need an external IP address to get the coins thorugh http ?? Do I need an external IP address to get the coins thorugh http ??

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Jr. MemberActivity: 150Merit: 1 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ October 06, 2019, 10:01:05 AM

Last edit: October 06, 2019, 12:39:20 PM by onyabike #76 Quote from: FlyOnTheWall on September 29, 2019, 02:19:23 PM Quote from: Epicmax on July 11, 2019, 09:51:22 AM Quote from: Guy Corem on July 11, 2019, 06:41:44 AM Its saddened me to see that no credit is given to Grin, from which you forked.



Credit is given to Grin in our white paper and when GitHub is public. We will give credit where it is due.





Quote from: tromp on July 11, 2019, 07:16:02 AM Indeed; this is essentially BitGrin (Grin + Bitcoin emission + mining tax) minus the Grin acknowledgement.



When asked earlier what distinguishes this project from BitGrin, they claimed it has no mining tax, which it now does.



There are key differences between Epic and Grin/Bitgrin, and this difference will increase as we progress on development. And again, we do acknowledge Grin in our white paper and soon to go public GitHub.



The budget emission is 8.8% first year and reduces 1.1% every year until zero. This is relatively much more modest than some coins and will help ensure we can continue developing and promoting. The ultimate goal is to transition from using a foundation to a decentralized autonomous organization.

Credit is given to Grin in our white paper and when GitHub is public. We will give credit where it is due.There are key differences between Epic and Grin/Bitgrin, and this difference will increase as we progress on development. And again, we do acknowledge Grin in our white paper and soon to go public GitHub.The budget emission is 8.8% first year and reduces 1.1% every year until zero. This is relatively much more modest than some coins and will help ensure we can continue developing and promoting. The ultimate goal is to transition from using a foundation to a decentralized autonomous organization.

How much does the board receive from this? And why is it that there exist only 2 people on said board? Why hasn't any of that Epic yet been distributed to those responsible for developing the platform to this point? Why is this "community project" being governed by one person who is now on medical leave?

How much does the board receive from this? And why is it that there exist only 2 people on said board? Why hasn't any of that Epic yet been distributed to those responsible for developing the platform to this point? Why is this "community project" being governed by one person who is now on medical leave?

Good points raised epics starting to smell like a stinker



Tbh I gave up on this one fairly quickly. The way wallet/miner compiled wasn't great and how telegram group was all up to date while discord and this forum was all left in the dark and the link to the wallet/miner was off a website and not off the github source.



Very backwards left me with no confidence.

I don't think Epicmax has any experience in making this a successful project epic gonna be a epic failure



Not to mention the 3x alias?



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Good points raised epics starting to smell like a stinkerTbh I gave up on this one fairly quickly. The way wallet/miner compiled wasn't great and how telegram group was all up to date while discord and this forum was all left in the dark and the link to the wallet/miner was off a website and not off the github source.Very backwards left me with no confidence.I don't think Epicmax has any experience in making this a successful project epic gonna be a epic failureNot to mention the 3x alias?EpicmaxMaxfreeman4Epicmichaelfreeman

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Jr. MemberActivity: 150Merit: 1 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ October 15, 2019, 09:51:29 AM #84 Quote from: FlyOnTheWall on October 15, 2019, 02:08:52 AM Quote from: RandyHilarski on October 14, 2019, 02:01:08 PM Quote from: onyabike on October 11, 2019, 04:44:06 PM Quote from: FlyOnTheWall on October 10, 2019, 03:21:10 PM Quote from: onyabike on October 07, 2019, 06:44:52 AM Quote from: U on October 06, 2019, 01:44:40 PM Quote from: Guy Corem on July 11, 2019, 12:38:24 PM Quote from: Epicmax on July 11, 2019, 09:58:53 AM Quote from: tromp on July 11, 2019, 07:16:02 AM Indeed; this is essentially BitGrin (Grin + Bitcoin emission + mining tax) minus the Grin acknowledgement.



When asked earlier what distinguishes this project from BitGrin, they claimed it has no mining tax, which it now does.



There are key differences between Epic and Grin/Bitgrin, and this difference will increase as we progress on development. And again, we do acknowledge Grin in our white paper and soon to go public GitHub.



The budget emission is 8.8% first year and reduces 1.1% every year until zero. This is relatively much more modest than some coins and will help ensure we can continue developing and promoting. The ultimate goal is to transition from using a foundation to a decentralized autonomous organization.

There are key differences between Epic and Grin/Bitgrin, and this difference will increase as we progress on development. And again, we do acknowledge Grin in our white paper and soon to go public GitHub.The budget emission is 8.8% first year and reduces 1.1% every year until zero. This is relatively much more modest than some coins and will help ensure we can continue developing and promoting. The ultimate goal is to transition from using a foundation to a decentralized autonomous organization.





dump from tax scared some miners.

bitgrin/epic minus dev tax ,surely will attract many miners.dump from tax scared some miners.

There's still the foundation reward ratio per year, pretty much a dev tax however you want to look at it.



2x ppl running the show should this flop guess who's gonna dump on ya all

There's still the foundation reward ratio per year, pretty much a dev tax however you want to look at it.2x ppl running the show should this flop guess who's gonna dump on ya all

Now only 1 person running the show. Legal representation, treasurer, and primary investor all resigned from the board. Leaving just Max. So it's a democratic vote of 1 on how the dev tax is distributed....

Now only 1 person running the show. Legal representation, treasurer, and primary investor all resigned from the board. Leaving just Max. So it's a democratic vote of 1 on how the dev tax is distributed....

Epic coin getting ready for that epic failure right about now

Epic coin getting ready for that epic failure right about now



Is it now? People complain about a Dev tax but don't mind getting shafted by projects with inflation that never ends. Epic Cash will be fine and does not rely on just one person. The catalyst was one person's idea but the vision will grow. Fudding a project with no ICO, No Pre-mine and supports privacy is tasteless.

Here's Randy Hilarski, the guy who has been using his brand media channels to shill Epic Cash. Of course, Randy has been working with Wayan Garvey on this project, as he has on previous projects, so has a vested interest in seeing Epic pump.



The catalyst's (Wayan Garvey's) vision was to build a token off of the sweat of others' unpaid labor, to collect a dev tax for co-ordinating the unpaid labor, and then to hyper-inflate the value of that token so he could dump it off for millions in fiat. He was in discussions with the treasurer and the whitepaper author over how they might develop stablecoin and DEX interaction to manipulate the value of Epic Cash. Before Epic launched and disappointed, Wayan had hopes of developing a stablecoin (EUSD) and a DEX (EDEX). That same catalyst screwed over people that money was owed to after they'd put in significant amounts of work. He took MethodX's (a "friend" from the toner industry) $100k investment and then channeled it into other projects, such as Covario, with which Wayan intended to take advantage of DEXs to pump Epic Cash value. If I'm not mistaken, Covario is a project that Todd Lewis (Brick Abode), a lead paid developer for Epic, is also a part of.



Wayan Garvey has a history of fraud and shady business dealings. Epic wasn't the first time he took advantage of workers leaving them unpaid. At his Impro Group office in Moldova he fired dozens of IT people without pay, and then moved their jobs to the lower paid alternative in Mudurai, India. Where, incidentally, much of the "volunteer" programming for the Epic project is being done. He downsized in the Philippines, firing much of his staff and then raised frivolous criminal suits against them when they sought legal remedies for unrightful termination and and failure to pay wages after having worked for him for years, building his Philippines company from the ground up.



His Impro Group warehouse burned burned down twice, netting him nice earnings about which there are those who will go on the record stating that Garvey bragged about sticking it to the insurance companies and walking away considerably richer. He has previous sexual harassment suits as head of that organization. He's been embroiled in civil suits raised by Xerox for encouraging contract violation and purchase of materials sourced through violated contracts with Xerox.



What Garvey doesn't have is a history in crypto. He only got involved in mid-2017 because of the windfall profits he saw everyone making, then let his greed get the best of him and lost his ass when the market dropped out. He has no background relevant to this industry except for running a toner trading company that his father started. And he has some friends in the financial sector that can assist him in screwing an undeveloped exchange infrastructure.



Only months ago he was on about how large investors from respectable VC firms, as well as Richard Branson and company, we getting on board (he actually bragged about hanging out with them on Necker Island!) and how a large pool of investment would carry the committed Epic staff into next year and onward into layer 2 developments, Epic has more recently been stiffing translators for languages like Bengali, Igbo, and Persian, as well as the whitepaper author for month's work in research, authoring and advising. This guy, Wayan Garvey (aka Max Freeman), is the sole recipient of the dev tax and unquestioned authority on everything that happens at Epic.



And now, where is he? On medical leave? Leaving you to tell everyone that they can't expect pay for their work because he's to spineless to come out and admit that he lied to everyone? And to tell us that the project doesn't rely on him, when he is clearly the linchpin who everyone answers to. Or is it because under all this pressure he's gone deeper down the opioid rabbit hole, leaving him without the facilities to push this project forward (but at least with MethodX's money to pay for those expensive ketamine and dilaudid shots)?



Who exactly is on the dev team? What real developments are on the roadmap? And how will they get paid? What token value is needed to bring paid employees (assuming their contracts would actually be honored) on? What is Wayan Garvey's cut out of the dev tax? Why did the lead legal representation and the treasurer resign from the board? And where do you fit into all of this?



Say what you will, but it seems like your championing of this project in the face of those who have already been taken advantage of, your disingenuousness, and the lies you're promulgating are what are truly tasteless.

Here's Randy Hilarski, the guy who has been using his brand media channels to shill Epic Cash. Of course, Randy has been working with Wayan Garvey on this project, as he has on previous projects, so has a vested interest in seeing Epic pump.The catalyst's (Wayan Garvey's) vision was to build a token off of the sweat of others' unpaid labor, to collect a dev tax for co-ordinating the unpaid labor, and then to hyper-inflate the value of that token so he could dump it off for millions in fiat. He was in discussions with the treasurer and the whitepaper author over how they might develop stablecoin and DEX interaction to manipulate the value of Epic Cash. Before Epic launched and disappointed, Wayan had hopes of developing a stablecoin (EUSD) and a DEX (EDEX). That same catalyst screwed over people that money was owed to after they'd put in significant amounts of work. He took MethodX's (a "friend" from the toner industry) $100k investment and then channeled it into other projects, such as Covario, with which Wayan intended to take advantage of DEXs to pump Epic Cash value. If I'm not mistaken, Covario is a project that Todd Lewis (Brick Abode), a lead paid developer for Epic, is also a part of.Wayan Garvey has a history of fraud and shady business dealings. Epic wasn't the first time he took advantage of workers leaving them unpaid. At his Impro Group office in Moldova he fired dozens of IT people without pay, and then moved their jobs to the lower paid alternative in Mudurai, India. Where, incidentally, much of the "volunteer" programming for the Epic project is being done. He downsized in the Philippines, firing much of his staff and then raised frivolous criminal suits against them when they sought legal remedies for unrightful termination and and failure to pay wages after having worked for him for years, building his Philippines company from the ground up.His Impro Group warehouse burned burned down twice, netting him nice earnings about which there are those who will go on the record stating that Garvey bragged about sticking it to the insurance companies and walking away considerably richer. He has previous sexual harassment suits as head of that organization. He's been embroiled in civil suits raised by Xerox for encouraging contract violation and purchase of materials sourced through violated contracts with Xerox.What Garvey doesn't have is a history in crypto. He only got involved in mid-2017 because of the windfall profits he saw everyone making, then let his greed get the best of him and lost his ass when the market dropped out. He has no background relevant to this industry except for running a toner trading company that his father started. And he has some friends in the financial sector that can assist him in screwing an undeveloped exchange infrastructure.Only months ago he was on about how large investors from respectable VC firms, as well as Richard Branson and company, we getting on board (he actually bragged about hanging out with them on Necker Island!) and how a large pool of investment would carry the committed Epic staff into next year and onward into layer 2 developments, Epic has more recently been stiffing translators for languages like Bengali, Igbo, and Persian, as well as the whitepaper author for month's work in research, authoring and advising. This guy, Wayan Garvey (aka Max Freeman), is the sole recipient of the dev tax and unquestioned authority on everything that happens at Epic.And now, where is he? On medical leave? Leaving you to tell everyone that they can't expect pay for their work because he's to spineless to come out and admit that he lied to everyone? And to tell us that the project doesn't rely on him, when he is clearly the linchpin who everyone answers to. Or is it because under all this pressure he's gone deeper down the opioid rabbit hole, leaving him without the facilities to push this project forward (but at least with MethodX's money to pay for those expensive ketamine and dilaudid shots)?Who exactly is on the dev team? What real developments are on the roadmap? And how will they get paid? What token value is needed to bring paid employees (assuming their contracts would actually be honored) on? What is Wayan Garvey's cut out of the dev tax? Why did the lead legal representation and the treasurer resign from the board? And where do you fit into all of this?Say what you will, but it seems like your championing of this project in the face of those who have already been taken advantage of, your disingenuousness, and the lies you're promulgating are what are truly tasteless.

Here's the cock sucker on fb Here's the cock sucker on fb https://m.facebook.com/wayan.garvey

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NewbieActivity: 2Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ October 16, 2019, 05:24:32 PM

Last edit: October 17, 2019, 06:48:20 PM by RandyHilarski #85 Wow, I am seeing a new low here. Yes, I know Max going back 3 years. Once again I will remind you that the project is not just him. We have a community. He was the catalyst that brought us this coin. You can hate all you want but it does not change the quality of the project. The wallet works great. Development continues and folks can fud all they want. I have seen plenty of projects come and go in my years but this one has legs. I am sticking around! Hugs

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NewbieActivity: 6Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ October 20, 2019, 08:03:48 PM #86 This character assassination of Max is totally inappropriate. It's based on nothing but pure speculation. I do not claim that I know him personally apart from having a few conversations with him while I've been following the project as a community member. But I think that I know him well enough to say that he is not a low life scammer bent on hurting anyone involved with the project. On the contrary. I observed him honoring his promises to other people who were providing some services for the project on a number of occasions. He even went out of his way on one occasion to make things right even though it was clear to everyone that the third party screwed up, essentially paying twice for the same service...He tried his best to create an opportunity for everyone, especially for the small guy...The project is experiencing growing pains, some people left, which unfortunately happens all the time to every project I have been following recently as we people tend to disagree on everything from time to time...It's simply the fact of life. These difficulties and relentless work have taken their toll on him I would imagine, so I would urge everyone to respect his privacy and current situation until he is fully recovered and in a position to answer any issues that need to be addressed. My personal view is that the project still has a good chance of achieving its goals, despite the current difficulties. Time will tell if I was right about it.

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Full MemberActivity: 139Merit: 125 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM #88

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING "From a small seed a mighty trunk may grow." -Aeschylus

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Full MemberActivity: 233Merit: 102 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 03:10:15 AM #89 Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Not sure what world you're living in, but the public clearly does give two shits. The price and net hash have dropped off significantly. Literally no one is buying. All the volume is faked on the two Chinese exchanges that have listed it. Chainrift delisted it because no one was buying. Not sure what world you're living in, but the public clearly does give two shits. The price and net hash have dropped off significantly. Literally no one is buying. All the volume is faked on the two Chinese exchanges that have listed it. Chainrift delisted it because no one was buying.

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Full MemberActivity: 233Merit: 102 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 03:16:32 PM #90 Quote from: Here41Reason on November 08, 2019, 07:01:36 AM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.



He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.



I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.



By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...



It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?



Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?



Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

He obviously was an early miner that didn't sell and he's trying to save the price from tanking to 0, which will inevitably happen. He obviously was an early miner that didn't sell and he's trying to save the price from tanking to 0, which will inevitably happen.

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Full MemberActivity: 139Merit: 125 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 08:59:28 PM #91 Quote from: nadrojcote on November 08, 2019, 03:10:15 AM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Not sure what world you're living in, but the public clearly does give two shits. The price and net hash have dropped off significantly. Literally no one is buying. All the volume is faked on the two Chinese exchanges that have listed it. Chainrift delisted it because no one was buying.

Not sure what world you're living in, but the public clearly does give two shits. The price and net hash have dropped off significantly. Literally no one is buying. All the volume is faked on the two Chinese exchanges that have listed it. Chainrift delisted it because no one was buying.

Ah yes one of those cheap, all-talk theoreticians. LOL "literally no one us buying"?

Literally you are full of shit and either flaunting your ignorance or lying on purpose.

Currently there are at least a couple of exchanges that are active, with real transactions, although one is much more active than the rest, plus several quiet P2P services, but I wouldn't expect you to know about that.

When you say the public clearly does give two shits, you misunderstood, the only relevant public is not the one caught up in the drama, but the public thats actually DOING something with Epic Cash - mining, accumulating, promoting, banking the unbanked, you know that kind of "real world actual actions" stuff, not armchair quarterbacking







Ah yes one of those cheap, all-talk theoreticians. LOL "literally no one us buying"?Literally you are full of shit and either flaunting your ignorance or lying on purpose.Currently there are at least a couple of exchanges that are active, with real transactions, although one is much more active than the rest, plus several quiet P2P services, but I wouldn't expect you to know about that.When you say the public clearly does give two shits, you misunderstood, the only relevant public is not the one caught up in the drama, but the public thats actually DOING something with Epic Cash - mining, accumulating, promoting, banking the unbanked, you know that kind of "real world actual actions" stuff, not armchair quarterbacking "From a small seed a mighty trunk may grow." -Aeschylus

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Full MemberActivity: 139Merit: 125 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 09:15:46 PM #92 Quote from: Here41Reason on November 08, 2019, 07:01:36 AM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.



He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.



I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.



By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...



It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?



Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?



Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.

I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...

Good Luck to you in your future endeavors. No I am not John, I am just a guy who is enjoying this project, and sees its potential.I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...Good Luck to you in your future endeavors. "From a small seed a mighty trunk may grow." -Aeschylus

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Full MemberActivity: 233Merit: 102 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 09:23:05 PM #93 Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 09:15:46 PM Quote from: Here41Reason on November 08, 2019, 07:01:36 AM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.



He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.



I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.



By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...



It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?



Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?



Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.

I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...

Good Luck to you in your future endeavors.

No I am not John, I am just a guy who is enjoying this project, and sees its potential.I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...Good Luck to you in your future endeavors.

You're completely ignorant to the fact that their personal life is affecting the dev funds and the long term life of this project. Good luck with your investing. And yes I do know of the two exchanges that currently have epic listed. If you watch the transactions they're almost all for prices that are not in the order books. It's very well known that the volume is faked on Citex and Bihodl. Open your eyes. There's absolutely 0 for volume other than the people dumping into the old buy orders.



Believe me when I say I want this to succeed as I also have a big bag from mining, but at this point I've written it off because of how useless this project is in comparison to the competition. There's plenty other projects out there with trustworthy dev's that do the exact same thing, on top of that they aren't clone coins like this. It took them weeks to fix simple problems with the API because it's not their code. The joys of cloning someone else's work and calling it your own.



You're completely ignorant to the fact that their personal life is affecting the dev funds and the long term life of this project. Good luck with your investing. And yes I do know of the two exchanges that currently have epic listed. If you watch the transactions they're almost all for prices that are not in the order books. It's very well known that the volume is faked on Citex and Bihodl. Open your eyes. There's absolutely 0 for volume other than the people dumping into the old buy orders.Believe me when I say I want this to succeed as I also have a big bag from mining, but at this point I've written it off because of how useless this project is in comparison to the competition. There's plenty other projects out there with trustworthy dev's that do the exact same thing, on top of that they aren't clone coins like this. It took them weeks to fix simple problems with the API because it's not their code. The joys of cloning someone else's work and calling it your own.

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Full MemberActivity: 139Merit: 125 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 11:16:49 PM #94 Quote from: nadrojcote on November 08, 2019, 09:23:05 PM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 09:15:46 PM Quote from: Here41Reason on November 08, 2019, 07:01:36 AM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.



He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.



I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.



By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...



It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?



Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?



Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.

I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...

Good Luck to you in your future endeavors.

No I am not John, I am just a guy who is enjoying this project, and sees its potential.I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...Good Luck to you in your future endeavors.

You're completely ignorant to the fact that their personal life is affecting the dev funds and the long term life of this project. Good luck with your investing. And yes I do know of the two exchanges that currently have epic listed. If you watch the transactions they're almost all for prices that are not in the order books. It's very well known that the volume is faked on Citex and Bihodl. Open your eyes. There's absolutely 0 for volume other than the people dumping into the old buy orders.



Believe me when I say I want this to succeed as I also have a big bag from mining, but at this point I've written it off because of how useless this project is in comparison to the competition. There's plenty other projects out there with trustworthy dev's that do the exact same thing, on top of that they aren't clone coins like this. It took them weeks to fix simple problems with the API because it's not their code. The joys of cloning someone else's work and calling it your own.





You're completely ignorant to the fact that their personal life is affecting the dev funds and the long term life of this project. Good luck with your investing. And yes I do know of the two exchanges that currently have epic listed. If you watch the transactions they're almost all for prices that are not in the order books. It's very well known that the volume is faked on Citex and Bihodl. Open your eyes. There's absolutely 0 for volume other than the people dumping into the old buy orders.Believe me when I say I want this to succeed as I also have a big bag from mining, but at this point I've written it off because of how useless this project is in comparison to the competition. There's plenty other projects out there with trustworthy dev's that do the exact same thing, on top of that they aren't clone coins like this. It took them weeks to fix simple problems with the API because it's not their code. The joys of cloning someone else's work and calling it your own. and I am all for EVERYONE making a buck . As far as exchanges padding the transaction list, in case of BiHODL its obvious to spot, small volume and inconsequential considering the rest of the volume is real. As far as everyone involved with the project from the beginning, I have nothing but respect for them going into such an ambitious undertaking and I hope they all get results in the end more tangible than just wisdom that comes from experience



Honestly I am not at all ignorant to the fact that their personal life is affecting the dev funds and the long term life of this project, which is why I am surprised at the "scorched-earth-let-it-all-burn-to-hell" approach. Its not constructive and anger will not get money back. I believe project has merit, just as much as it did when it started. Its far from perfect in execution, but in a sea of shitcoins this actually stands out to me. I am also glad you have a "big bag from mining", because I believe it will pay off,. As far as exchanges padding the transaction list, in case of BiHODL its obvious to spot, small volume and inconsequential considering the rest of the volume is real. As far as everyone involved with the project from the beginning, I have nothing but respect for them going into such an ambitious undertaking and I hope they all get results in the end more tangible than just wisdom that comes from experience "From a small seed a mighty trunk may grow." -Aeschylus

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Full MemberActivity: 139Merit: 125 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ November 08, 2019, 11:27:53 PM #95 Quote from: Here41Reason on November 08, 2019, 11:19:05 PM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 09:15:46 PM Quote from: Here41Reason on November 08, 2019, 07:01:36 AM Quote from: MajorMiner on November 08, 2019, 12:13:34 AM

Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.

So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...



*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*

Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.

Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!

Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.



Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!

*golf clap*



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Dramalicious!Looks like there is one seriously butt hurt individual creating multiple accounts and burning all of his former team members.So many new accounts created just to bring this coin down ... for now...*Analysis and Spoiler Alert!*Project looks legit, despite the drama. NOTHING discussed in this thread invalidates the model, the tech or the usability of Epic Cash, the drama is just a show to keep the price down.Looking at the difficulty people appear to be mining the crap out of Epic Cash, and looking at exchanges people are accumulating the crap out of Epic Cash at bargain prices!Best part, the public does not give two shits about the drama, only that tasty difference between the bought and sold price.Well played drama queens, please continue to entertain us!*golf clap*Full Disclosure - YOU KNOW I AM BUYING

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.



He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.



I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.



By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...



It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?



Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?



Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I'm assuming this is John/JLong. For what it's worth, from what I've witnessed, he is a standup guy.He was angry with me that I made a stink about being screwed. Apparently, speaking up about mistreatment is tantamount to burning team members. Standing up for what is right be damned, let's vilify whistelblowers for damaging share value.I don't know who has the multiple accounts to which you've referred. But if being butt hurt means being disgruntled over getting stiffed for 20 grand, then I am very butt hurt. Many of my team members got screwed, too. Yet instead of calling out the real culprit for our misfortune, you blame people like myself for not keeping our mouth shut.By the sounds of it, though, I'm not the only one in this thread that is butt hurt...It's likely that the individual who wrote this post was also guaranteed pay which he/she never received. They have put a lot of work into the project and are hoping to reclaim that sunken time and effort via mining rewards. Now all that EC they've mined is worth dick. Whoever is mining EC is, of course, accumulating the crap out of it. To sell at the going rate would mean selling at less than what it cost to mine. But then who is buying?Drama aside, why would someone invest in a project that has no dev team or road map, while other MimbleWimble projects have ambitious road maps and deep talented pools of developers? For that matter, why not just BitGrin? It's essentially the same as EC, except that EC has a slightly different emission schedule and some added mining algs. BitGrin, as far as I know, hasn't yet screwed over contributors. Nor does it have nearly 9% of its dev tax going to the one person who was responsible for screwing contributors over, does it?Nice try at masking your disappointment, MajorMiner. Kudos for dismissing unethical business practices as a pesky footnote to the ascension of EC token value. *golf clap*

I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.

I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...

Good Luck to you in your future endeavors.

No I am not John, I am just a guy who is enjoying this project, and sees its potential.I dont know all the details of the drama that ensued, and to be honest I dont really care.I am one of those people who likes and respects peoples work without digging into their personal stuff - that list is long - Hemingway, Tesla, Machiavelli and many others...Good Luck to you in your future endeavors.

You're adding Max Freeman to the list of the likes of Hemingway and Tesla? His work amounted to giving BitGrin a slightly different emission schedule and some additional mining algorithms and branding this new groundbreaking work as his own idea. Then promoting it as having substantial investment behind it, while giving community members the chance to contribute and get a piece of the pie fresh out of the oven. Only problem was, there was no substantial investment, and the community members didn't get paid. So, workers from India, West Africa, and Eastern Europe were, ultimately, stiffed. I never agreed to work for future speculative coin. I, instead, had an agreement for monthly pay, in fiat, for my work. I too, ultimately, was stiffed.



Is this work you like and respect? What about this project do you enjoy? Who is working on it? What are they working on? Why aren't any of those at the helms of this project speaking out on its behalf? What defining characteristics imbues it with potential not shared by BitGrin, Grin, or Beam? Please, do tell.

You're adding Max Freeman to the list of the likes of Hemingway and Tesla? His work amounted to giving BitGrin a slightly different emission schedule and some additional mining algorithms and branding this new groundbreaking work as his own idea. Then promoting it as having substantial investment behind it, while giving community members the chance to contribute and get a piece of the pie fresh out of the oven. Only problem was, there was no substantial investment, and the community members didn't get paid. So, workers from India, West Africa, and Eastern Europe were, ultimately, stiffed. I never agreed to work for future speculative coin. I, instead, had an agreement for monthly pay, in fiat, for my work. I too, ultimately, was stiffed.Is this work you like and respect? What about this project do you enjoy? Who is working on it? What are they working on? Why aren't any of those at the helms of this project speaking out on its behalf? What defining characteristics imbues it with potential not shared by BitGrin, Grin, or Beam? Please, do tell. . But, I am a little confused, if the project is as trivial as you say in terms of it being as you say a simple fork of grin, why did it require so many programmers and so much time to launch it? Translation is trivial, and I hate to say this but a lot of translations that I saw for this project are very subpar. Care to elucidate?

Sorry about Hemingway, I like to wax poetic sometimes. But, I am a little confused, if the project is as trivial as you say in terms of it being as you say a simple fork of grin, why did it require so many programmers and so much time to launch it? Translation is trivial, and I hate to say this but a lot of translations that I saw for this project are very subpar. Care to elucidate? "From a small seed a mighty trunk may grow." -Aeschylus

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Epic Cash definitely has good things in the works. Glad to see people from all places joining in! Ms.Fungible, that is typical of all projects, Telegram is the most focused medium. Less distraction more idea flow less blah blah blah. Bitcointalk is a good place to chat about politics and how great Bitcoin is/was and crypto economics and how great Bitcoin is/was and Bitcoin forks and John McAfees The Dickening and how great Bitcoin is/was and so much more of the sameEpic Cash definitely has good things in the works. Glad to see people from all places joining in!

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Jr. MemberActivity: 150Merit: 1 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ December 07, 2019, 04:30:17 AM #114 Few dirty shillers in here now could even just be the same person lol, now trying to manipulate the people off bitcointalk so they can brainwash with bias bullshit shills on telegram where you'll be fed anything but the truth of this failed project.



Probably the same person who gets the 10% emission for doin fk all for every block found, that's what your all banking on this arsehole who's gonna dump on you all

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Quote from: Here41Reason on December 07, 2019, 04:42:29 AM Quote from: onyabike on December 07, 2019, 04:30:17 AM Few dirty shillers in here now could even just be the same person lol, now trying to manipulate the people off bitcointalk so they can brainwash with bias bullshit shills on telegram where you'll be fed anything but the truth of this failed project.



Probably the same person who gets the 10% emission for doin fk all for every block found, that's what your all banking on this arsehole who's gonna dump on you all



I can almost guarantee you that Phylantrop is Wayan Garvey, aka Max Freeman.



1) I notice the fingerprint of his writing style in even his short "friendly" note.



2) This morning my post which stated that he was guilty of securities violation was removed, and Phylantrop's post was up right around the same time.



3) He's recently begun popping up on Telegram again. He was trying to woo Indonesians on the Indonesian Telegram channel. The dolt must have forgotten that I live in Indonesia.



BTW, I spoke with the former admin of that channel, and he too was screwed over by Wayan. Work unpaid. That's not all. Not only did the shameless fuck go around shortchanging people from low income countries, but he actually had the gall to ask this Indonesian guy to pay for expenses here which Wayan said he'd later reimburse. In the end, he gave everyone his poor-me story, and then went off to some Club Med mental hospital, paid for out of pocket with the money he didn't have, because the stress of screwing over everyone around him became burdensome.



Rather than man up to criticism, he'll post new names and do his best to focus everyone on to Telegram where they can erase messages and boot members.



Your coin is still junk with me here or not, Phylantrop, I'm just showing up to shadow you and rub it in. You are a piece of shit.



I can almost guarantee you that Phylantrop is Wayan Garvey, aka Max Freeman.1) I notice the fingerprint of his writing style in even his short "friendly" note.2) This morning my post which stated that he was guilty of securities violation was removed, and Phylantrop's post was up right around the same time.3) He's recently begun popping up on Telegram again. He was trying to woo Indonesians on the Indonesian Telegram channel. The dolt must have forgotten that I live in Indonesia.BTW, I spoke with the former admin of that channel, and he too was screwed over by Wayan. Work unpaid. That's not all. Not only did the shameless fuck go around shortchanging people from low income countries, but he actually had the gall to ask this Indonesian guy to pay for expenses here which Wayan said he'd later reimburse. In the end, he gave everyone his poor-me story, and then went off to some Club Med mental hospital, paid for out of pocket with the money he didn't have, because the stress of screwing over everyone around him became burdensome.Rather than man up to criticism, he'll post new names and do his best to focus everyone on to Telegram where they can erase messages and boot members.Your coin is still junk with me here or not, Phylantrop, I'm just showing up to shadow you and rub it in. You are a piece of shit. Nice work, keep it flowing this coin sucks alot of d1ck, newb developer even tried to get peeps to download the shit wallet off a website rather than the source off github lol fkn amateurs can't wait till this coin dies completely its a waste of computer resources mining this shit hole coin

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NewbieActivity: 11Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ December 08, 2019, 06:59:02 AM #116 Dear Here41Reason aka onyabike,

You got my attention accusing me of being someone else. My truth is far more boring, my real name is Phil, and in addition to my work I am also heavily involved in philanthropy, volunteer work, blood donation at Stanford Blood Center, that kind of thing, which is why I chose handle Phylantrop. Get it? If you want proof, or if anyone here wants proof of my identity we can meet and chat at my favorite coffee joint Philz Coffee in Palo Alto (yeah I admit I like Philz partially because it sounds like my name).

In the interests of more disclosure since you are clearly fascinated by my persona and my involvement with Epic. I first found out about the Epic Cash project at Burning Man, but I did not get around to doing anything about it until after it launched in September. Me and a few of my friends are actively mining and buying Epic Cash. I am not soliciting your opinion on this since you made it clear.

I don't know you, but I find your behavior inhumanely reprehensible. As I said, you got my attention, I guess its my turn to find out who you really are, so I will reach out to the Epic Cash community and find out.

In the meantime, you are spamming the crap out of this forum, you are bullying project members, and you are making obviously libelous accusations. I do not understand why your accounts are not banned and your messages are not erased, but I do understand why people prefer cleaner channels like Telegram where parasites like you cant spread their hate and bully them.



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And this shit coin deserves everything it gets for wronging people, what was the point of the emission/treasurer if contributors aren't getting paid for they're work, seriously fk this coin and anyone who supports it.



The only peeps supporting this coin are the dirty scammers them selves shilling this coin. This will never take off knowing that the treasurer/emissions is going to a scammer for every block mined what's stopping the scamming arsehole from dumping on you all just when you think things are getting good think AGAIN. ITS BEYOND COMMON SENSE THIS IS A SCAM WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE MISAPPROPRIATING THE EMISSION THAT'S SET ASIDE FOR CONTRIBUTORS AND DEVELOPMENT YET WE HAVE SOMEONE ABUSING IT



Quote from: Phylantrop on December 08, 2019, 06:59:02 AM Dear Here41Reason aka onyabike,

You got my attention accusing me of being someone else. My truth is far more boring, my real name is Phil, and in addition to my work I am also heavily involved in philanthropy, volunteer work, blood donation at Stanford Blood Center, that kind of thing, which is why I chose handle Phylantrop. Get it? If you want proof, or if anyone here wants proof of my identity we can meet and chat at my favorite coffee joint Philz Coffee in Palo Alto (yeah I admit I like Philz partially because it sounds like my name).

In the interests of more disclosure since you are clearly fascinated by my persona and my involvement with Epic. I first found out about the Epic Cash project at Burning Man, but I did not get around to doing anything about it until after it launched in September. Me and a few of my friends are actively mining and buying Epic Cash. I am not soliciting your opinion on this since you made it clear.

I don't know you, but I find your behavior inhumanely reprehensible. As I said, you got my attention, I guess its my turn to find out who you really are, so I will reach out to the Epic Cash community and find out.

In the meantime, you are spamming the crap out of this forum, you are bullying project members, and you are making obviously libelous accusations. I do not understand why your accounts are not banned and your messages are not erased, but I do understand why people prefer cleaner channels like Telegram where parasites like you cant spread their hate and bully them.



Bye

Claims I'm Here41Reason hahha you do realise there's multiple people who here know epic trash is exactly that trash.And this shit coin deserves everything it gets for wronging people, what was the point of the emission/treasurer if contributors aren't getting paid for they're work, seriously fk this coin and anyone who supports it.The only peeps supporting this coin are the dirty scammers them selves shilling this coin. This will never take off knowing that the treasurer/emissions is going to a scammer for every block mined what's stopping the scamming arsehole from dumping on you all just when you think things are getting good think AGAIN. ITS BEYOND COMMON SENSE THIS IS A SCAM WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE MISAPPROPRIATING THE EMISSION THAT'S SET ASIDE FOR CONTRIBUTORS AND DEVELOPMENT YET WE HAVE SOMEONE ABUSING IT

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NewbieActivity: 11Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ December 12, 2019, 05:39:50 PM #125 What a good drama here. I have been scammed by quadrigacx and maybe could have been scammed by epic cash. I stopped mining after a few hours, seeing too much difficulty and bad otc price Max was hoping for on telegram. When i saw he wanted 1 dollar for an epic i knew diff was too high. I thought about buying. Lucky me i was lazy, wallet was a nightmare. I still have 2 epic on icemining pool though, lol.



It's pretty sad seeing all of you saying bad things. But i understand the anger.



I remember about the 2k russians that were ready to mine lol. I was one of the first members in telegram and remember the gpu giveaway but never participated because i didnt want to give personnal data. I remember methodx giveaway, for Usa members only.



In the end, i hate you have all been scammed.



Was it Emma the nice girl that was here from the start? Is she real? Lol she s the only one you never talked about.

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Last edit: December 12, 2019, 06:17:13 PM by Phylantrop #126 Quote from: delatour on December 12, 2019, 05:39:50 PM What a good drama here. I have been scammed by quadrigacx and maybe could have been scammed by epic cash. I stopped mining after a few hours, seeing too much difficulty and bad otc price Max was hoping for on telegram. When i saw he wanted 1 dollar for an epic i knew diff was too high. I thought about buying. Lucky me i was lazy, wallet was a nightmare. I still have 2 epic on icemining pool though, lol.



It's pretty sad seeing all of you saying bad things. But i understand the anger.



I remember about the 2k russians that were ready to mine lol. I was one of the first members in telegram and remember the gpu giveaway but never participated because i didnt want to give personnal data. I remember methodx giveaway, for Usa members only.



In the end, i hate you have all been scammed.



Was it Emma the nice girl that was here from the start? Is she real? Lol she s the only one you never talked about.



Well drama aside, difficulty is way down because Monero went RandonmX on November 30th so even solo mining is an option. After a rough start, Epic Cash is alive and well on Telegram without all the trolls. I pity the guy who is reduced to trolling here while trying to scrape a living in Indonesia, so much anger and unfulfilled dreams, running out of places he can call home. Maybe if he was a better human being his life would not be so miserable.



In the end, time will show who was right. For now, Epic Cash is slowly growing, adding features, adding miners, getting gradually bigger.

Have a great life!



P.S. How would you get scammed by Epic Cash? You are not giving them money. Just like any other crypto mineable crypto you mine it and it may go up or down in value. Well drama aside, difficulty is way down because Monero went RandonmX on November 30th so even solo mining is an option. After a rough start, Epic Cash is alive and well on Telegram without all the trolls. I pity the guy who is reduced to trolling here while trying to scrape a living in Indonesia, so much anger and unfulfilled dreams, running out of places he can call home. Maybe if he was a better human being his life would not be so miserable.In the end, time will show who was right. For now, Epic Cash is slowly growing, adding features, adding miners, getting gradually bigger.Have a great life!P.S. How would you get scammed by Epic Cash? You are not giving them money. Just like any other crypto mineable crypto you mine it and it may go up or down in value.

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Quote from: Phylantrop on December 12, 2019, 06:06:29 PM Quote from: delatour on December 12, 2019, 05:39:50 PM What a good drama here. I have been scammed by quadrigacx and maybe could have been scammed by epic cash. I stopped mining after a few hours, seeing too much difficulty and bad otc price Max was hoping for on telegram. When i saw he wanted 1 dollar for an epic i knew diff was too high. I thought about buying. Lucky me i was lazy, wallet was a nightmare. I still have 2 epic on icemining pool though, lol.



It's pretty sad seeing all of you saying bad things. But i understand the anger.



I remember about the 2k russians that were ready to mine lol. I was one of the first members in telegram and remember the gpu giveaway but never participated because i didnt want to give personnal data. I remember methodx giveaway, for Usa members only.



In the end, i hate you have all been scammed.



Was it Emma the nice girl that was here from the start? Is she real? Lol she s the only one you never talked about.



Well drama aside, difficulty is way down because Monero went RandonmX on November 30th so even solo mining is an option. After a rough start, Epic Cash is alive and well on Telegram without all the trolls. I pity the guy who is reduced to trolling here while trying to scrape a living in Indonesia, so much anger and unfulfilled dreams, running out of places he can call home. Maybe if he was a better human being his life would not be so miserable.



In the end, time will show who was right. For now, Epic Cash is slowly growing, adding features, adding miners, getting gradually bigger.

Have a great life!



P.S. How would you get scammed by Epic Cash? You are not giving them money. Just like any other crypto mineable crypto you mine it and it may go up or down in value.

Well drama aside, difficulty is way down because Monero went RandonmX on November 30th so even solo mining is an option. After a rough start, Epic Cash is alive and well on Telegram without all the trolls. I pity the guy who is reduced to trolling here while trying to scrape a living in Indonesia, so much anger and unfulfilled dreams, running out of places he can call home. Maybe if he was a better human being his life would not be so miserable.In the end, time will show who was right. For now, Epic Cash is slowly growing, adding features, adding miners, getting gradually bigger.Have a great life!P.S. How would you get scammed by Epic Cash? You are not giving them money. Just like any other crypto mineable crypto you mine it and it may go up or down in value. Clearly you have shit for brains, old mate already mentioned it multiple times he did work for epic cash and was promised to be paid in fiat but never happened

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NewbieActivity: 11Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ December 12, 2019, 09:06:57 PM #128 When i wrote about being scammed i was thinking that epic cash wasnt a mine and dump coin organized by the team. Ok i would have mined and dumped i must confess. I am just disappointed seeing that Max thought the same. When i saw the boat with epic cash logo, the pile of fedex letters to be sent to bankers... Well i thougt this team had money and would at least proprely pump the price but i guess they never had time to do that. I am no angel here... Have always been a pump and dump miner but... I followed the project daily for months...

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NewbieActivity: 11Merit: 0 Re: [ANN] [POW] EPIC - Epic Private Internet Cash | MimbleWimble | Dandelion++ December 13, 2019, 05:15:45 PM #129 Quote from: Here41Reason on December 12, 2019, 11:12:31 PM Quote from: onyabike on December 12, 2019, 08:28:32 PM



Quote from: Phylantrop on December 12, 2019, 06:06:29 PM Quote from: delatour on December 12, 2019, 05:39:50 PM What a good drama here. I have been scammed by quadrigacx and maybe could have been scammed by epic cash. I stopped mining after a few hours, seeing too much difficulty and bad otc price Max was hoping for on telegram. When i saw he wanted 1 dollar for an epic i knew diff was too high. I thought about buying. Lucky me i was lazy, wallet was a nightmare. I still have 2 epic on icemining pool though, lol.



It's pretty sad seeing all of you saying bad things. But i understand the anger.



I remember about the 2k russians that were ready to mine lol. I was one of the first members in telegram and remember the gpu giveaway but never participated because i didnt want to give personnal data. I remember methodx giveaway, for Usa members only.



In the end, i hate you have all been scammed.



Was it Emma the nice girl that was here from the start? Is she real? Lol she s the only one you never talked about.



Well drama aside, difficulty is way down because Monero went RandonmX on November 30th so even solo mining is an option. After a rough start, Epic Cash is alive and well on Telegram without all the trolls. I pity the guy who is reduced to trolling here while trying to scrape a living in Indonesia, so much anger and unfulfilled dreams, running out of places he can call home. Maybe if he was a better human being his life would not be so miserable.



In the end, time will show who was right. For now, Epic Cash is slowly growing, adding features, adding miners, getting gradually bigger.

Have a great life!



P.S. How would you get scammed by Epic Cash? You are not giving them money. Just like any other crypto mineable crypto you mine it and it may go up or down in value.

Well drama aside, difficulty is way down because Monero went RandonmX on November 30th so even solo mining is an option. After a rough start, Epic Cash is alive and well on Telegram without all the trolls. I pity the guy who is reduced to trolling here while trying to scrape a living