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Sr. MemberActivity: 462Merit: 250 [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 09, 2013, 03:21:30 PM

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The [YAC] YaCoin Information Thread







What Makes YaCoin different than other AltCoins?



* Currently the only CPUMined coin (with all other altcoins, CPUMining has become unprofitable as GPUs, FPGAs and/or ASICs can do it much more efficiently.

* Means that anyone can get involved with mining YAcoins. You don't need a fancy AMD video card, and a complex miner program with a lot of technical know-how

* This may also mean that the YaCoin coin distribution is and/or will be more widespread, and thus more democratic (this is speculation at this point)

* Also means that YaCoin could see a larger, more sustainable network hashrate, as miners can co-mine it along with GPU-based coins

* PoS and PoW (long-term power efficiency)

* Ultra-fast confirmations

* A reasonably good developer (pacopaco) and an enthusiastic community



The creator of yacoin (

"it is possible to develop OpenCl or cuda miner for scrypt(N, 1, 1). But the CPU / GPU hashrate difference will be less than 10 times and will decrease over time. So GPU's contribution into miner's total hashrate (even in case somebody will implement this) will be like one or two additional CPU cores. This is because scrypt will need more and more fast random access memory with N increased." (Source)



General YaCoin Info

YaCoin Announcement Thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196196.0

YaCoin Homepage - http://www.yacoin.org/

YaCoin Forums - http://yacointalk.com/

YaCoin Network Stats - NONE? (Who can make one?)

YaCoin @ Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/yacoin



YaCoin Block Explorers

http://yacexplorer.tk/



YaCoin Charts

Coming soon...



Client Downloads

Source:

Windows (zip):

Linux: Compile from source (see above)



Win x64 Miner: Thread



CPUMiner (Linux): Source / Instructions

Using CPUMiner provides a better mining experience for many, especially those accustomed to cgminer-type features and functionality. It also makes use of mining pools possible.





YaCoin mining calculators

Coinchoose (NOT YET)







YAC Exchanges

Bter.com - Here



(OLD) Google Docs: Discussion



YAC Financial Sites

None yet.





YACoin Mining Pools (Pushpool/mmCFE)

http://yac.dontmine.me/

http://yac.coinmine.pl/



YACoin Mining Pools (P2Pool)

http://pool.yacointalk.com:8336/

http://pool.bitcn.org:8336/

http://yac.procrypto.com:8336/

http://yacpool.tk:8838/









YACoin faucets

YACoin Giveaway Thread - Here

YACoin Faucet - Here[url]/ I wanted to put together this info thread on YaCoin to help others learn about it and centralize all info on it in one place. Please feel free to reply to it and suggest anything that could be added or modified. I've modeled this page after the LiteCoin information thread here Thanks!* Currently the only CPUMined coin (with all other altcoins, CPUMining has become unprofitable as GPUs, FPGAs and/or ASICs can do it much more efficiently.* Means that. You don't need a fancy AMD video card, and a complex miner program with a lot of technical know-how* This may also mean that the YaCoin coin, and thus more democratic (this is speculation at this point)* Also means that YaCoin could see a, as miners can co-mine it along with GPU-based coins* PoS and PoW (long-term power efficiency)* Ultra-fast confirmations* A reasonably good developer (pacopaco) and an enthusiastic communityThe creator of yacoin ( pocopoco ) states the following about any potential move of GPUs over to mine YaCoin:- NONE? (Who can make one?)Coming soon...Source: https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin Windows (zip): Megashare Linux: Compile from source (see above)Using CPUMiner provides a better mining experience for many, especially those accustomed to cgminer-type features and functionality. It also makes use of mining pools possible.(OLD) Google Docs: Spreadsheet None yet.

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MemberActivity: 101Merit: 10 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 09, 2013, 03:47:19 PM #8 I thought yacoin.com is being worked on by pocopoco, perhaps he wanted it to be finished before launch, and thats why the launch got delayed. But this is just speculation on my part.

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LegendaryActivity: 1232Merit: 1001 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 09, 2013, 04:11:06 PM #14 As more an more people actually try out YaCoin, it will become clear how fast (and robust) transacting in YAC really is. At this point, early on, it must be a little unclear.



As more and more folks give mining a go (as N increases), it will start to become clear whether even CPUs can mine blocks throughout time.



Hopefully YaCoin will attract more developers and also sites will start to accept YaCoin. I think there was already a gambling site that is accepting it. Saw a forum topic. Notable projects 2019: Semux, Dero, Wagerr, BEAM

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Sr. MemberActivity: 406Merit: 250The cryptocoin watcher Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 09, 2013, 11:30:47 PM #22 <3 Perl



The code seems sane as far as I can tell. 𝖄𝖆𝖈 : YF3feU4PNLHrjwa1zV63BcCdWVk5z6DAh5 · 𝕭𝖙𝖈 : 12F78M4oaNmyGE5C25ZixarG2Nk6UBEqme

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MemberActivity: 238Merit: 10 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 10, 2013, 05:17:50 PM #31 thank you !

i have added you to Donation List

and anyboy know who design the yacoin logo

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Sr. MemberActivity: 406Merit: 250The cryptocoin watcher Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 11, 2013, 02:31:23 PM #36 Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 11, 2013, 02:26:34 PM Are there details on your proof-of-stake implementation?



I don't think it's changed from NVC. In my view the problem some PoW + PoS coins had is that PoW would just not die, which defeats the energy saving purpose of PoS. If YAC's PoW stops working at some point that may be good and solve that problem. I don't think it's changed from NVC. In my view the problem some PoW + PoS coins had is that PoW would just not die, which defeats the energy saving purpose of PoS. If YAC's PoW stops working at some point that may be good and solve that problem. 𝖄𝖆𝖈 : YF3feU4PNLHrjwa1zV63BcCdWVk5z6DAh5 · 𝕭𝖙𝖈 : 12F78M4oaNmyGE5C25ZixarG2Nk6UBEqme

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Sr. MemberActivity: 406Merit: 250The cryptocoin watcher Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 12, 2013, 03:09:24 PM #43



Thread:



Code:



Code: #!/bin/bash

while true

do

t=$(sensors|grep Core|awk '{print $3}'|cut -b2,3|awk '{if (NR==1) print $1}');

brake=$(ps -e|grep cpulimit);

if [[ $t > 65 && ! $brake ]]; then

cpulimit -e yacoin-qt -l 99 -b > /dev/null 2>&1;

echo "Temperature is $t. Throttling down...";

sleep 15;

elif [[ $t < 65 && $brake ]]; then

killall cpulimit;

echo "Temperature is $t. Throttling up...";

sleep 5;

else

sleep 3;

fi

done



You may need to install first cpulimit.



When you finish it with Ctrl+C it may leave cpulimit running, you'll have to kill it afterwards.



Modifications are welcome. I've written a throttling script for Linux to tune down yacoin-qt when core temperature is too high:Thread: http://yacointalk.com/index.php/topic,34.0.html Code:You may need to install first cpulimit.When you finish it with Ctrl+C it may leave cpulimit running, you'll have to kill it afterwards.Modifications are welcome. 𝖄𝖆𝖈 : YF3feU4PNLHrjwa1zV63BcCdWVk5z6DAh5 · 𝕭𝖙𝖈 : 12F78M4oaNmyGE5C25ZixarG2Nk6UBEqme

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Full MemberActivity: 167Merit: 100 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 12, 2013, 10:37:20 PM #45 Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 12, 2013, 03:48:30 AM



Update after reading some code: Nfactor is only used for memory allocation size - so it has no actual effect on the implementation; in other words, N is not dynamic

dynamic The code is quite messy, and even something as simple as the memory allocator is broken (it pretty much ignores the size of the allocation request)

I think this one gets a "scamcoin" classification...

I was under the impression PPCoin's PoS was not really working yet, and that nobody else had done any development on it...Update after reading some code:I think this one gets a "scamcoin" classification...

Luke-Jr, interesting comment. I had a brief go at the code as well, but can't confirm your findings. Maybe you were a bit quick shouting "scamcoin", eh?

Yes, the scrypt codebase is ugly. #define's and #ifdefs everywhere. Is this a copy of the original scrypt?

The scrypt romix code in scrypt-jane-romix-template.h (function called SCRYPT_ROMIX_FN) does use N (i.e. Nfactor) looping from 1 to N, in addition to increasing the mem size by N. I don't know enough about the underlying crypto, but I believe complexity scales at least by O(N 2 ).

(function called SCRYPT_ROMIX_FN) (i.e. Nfactor) looping from 1 to N, in addition to increasing the mem size by N. I don't know enough about the underlying crypto, but I believe complexity scales at least by O(N ). The allocate and free methods are totally fine. You have tripped over an #ifdef:

Code: #if defined(SCRYPT_TEST_SPEED)

// jomay: I left out the test code - this is the one you've read.

// It works fine in practice as well, but makes the scrypt() function non re-entrant.

#else

// jomay: here goes the real deal - fully functional, no mem leak, fine.

static scrypt_aligned_alloc scrypt_alloc(uint64_t size) {

static const size_t max_alloc = (size_t)-1;

scrypt_aligned_alloc aa;

size += (SCRYPT_BLOCK_BYTES - 1);

if (size > max_alloc)

scrypt_fatal_error("scrypt: not enough address space on this CPU to allocate required memory");

aa.mem = (uint8_t *)malloc((size_t)size);

aa.ptr = (uint8_t *)(((size_t)aa.mem + (SCRYPT_BLOCK_BYTES - 1)) & ~(SCRYPT_BLOCK_BYTES - 1));

if (!aa.mem)

scrypt_fatal_error("scrypt: out of memory");

return aa;

}



static void scrypt_free(scrypt_aligned_alloc *aa) {

free(aa->mem);

}

#endif

[/li][/list] Luke-Jr, interesting comment. I had a brief go at the code as well, but can't confirm your findings. Maybe you were a bit quick shouting "scamcoin", eh?[/li][/list] BTC 1NoV8NFSB7eiuK2aABFtBTdUdXhbEdG7Ss

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 13, 2013, 08:48:28 AM #49 Yet Another cryptocoin that does not address the main problem of bitcoin: the recentralization via pools.



A lot of effort to discourage GPUs and ASICs, but pools are still an option.



Bad, bad, bad... Proposals for improving bitcoin are like asses: everybody has one

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 13, 2013, 01:20:35 PM #55 Quote from: Bitcoin Megastore on May 13, 2013, 10:53:56 AM Quote from: Shevek on May 13, 2013, 08:48:28 AM Yet Another cryptocoin that does not address the main problem of bitcoin: the recentralization via pools.



A lot of effort to discourage GPUs and ASICs, but pools are still an option.



Bad, bad, bad...



And how would you fix that? There is no way to prevent 3rd parties from pointing hashpower to one node and use that node as miner connected to network.

And how would you fix that? There isto prevent 3rd parties from pointing hashpower to one node and use that node as miner connected to network.

I follow this subforum, with the hope a new cryptocurrency comes with a solution to this matter, which would be IMHO a major break in crytocurrency development. But no chance...



In fact, I have my own ideas on how design a new CC with PoW where parallelization AND pools are severely discouraged. Perhaps in other thread.



Quote from: Bitcoin Megastore on May 13, 2013, 12:44:32 PM

Any sort of pool is centralization point. If I connect to P2Pool, my miner depends on data sent by that pool so I don't see where is the "improved decentralization" part of story.



You didn't catch the idea behind p2pool, did you? p2pool is a network of nodes, not a central server to where you call for getwork and send shares. I follow this subforum, with the hope a new cryptocurrency comes with a solution to this matter, which would be IMHO a major break in crytocurrency development. But no chance...In fact, I have my own ideas on how design a new CC with PoW where parallelization AND pools are severely discouraged. Perhaps in other thread.You didn't catch the idea behind p2pool, did you? p2pool is a network of nodes, not a central server to where you call for getwork and send shares. Proposals for improving bitcoin are like asses: everybody has one

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MemberActivity: 119Merit: 10For the Community! By the Community! Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 17, 2013, 12:56:00 PM #60 I have to say I ran yac.ltc pool for a day and he did manage to pay me out.



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Hero MemberActivity: 840Merit: 1000 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 19, 2013, 07:12:05 PM #67 Quote from: cooltobe on May 19, 2013, 07:09:17 PM is it still feasible to invest 35$/month in a 12 core vps to mine yac ?



I don't think so. I'm estimating, but the average 12-core setup would probably get you around 3-4 coins per day. Let's say 120 coins a month best case. At current market rates that's 0.06 BTC, which isn't going to pay off that VPS.



If you think YAC is going to rise, better to buy and hold. I don't think so. I'm estimating, but the average 12-core setup would probably get you around 3-4 coins per day. Let's say 120 coins a month best case. At current market rates that's 0.06 BTC, which isn't going to pay off that VPS.If you think YAC is going to rise, better to buy and hold.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 274Merit: 250 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 21, 2013, 01:51:35 AM #78 My YACoin wallet keeps saying "Checkpoint is too old. Wait for block chain to download or notify developers." I keep it running for, like an hour, and it's still showing this message at the bottom. LTC: LSyqwk4YbhBRtkrUy8NRdKXFoUcgVpu8Qb NVC: 4HtynfYVyRYo6yM8BTAqyNYwqiucfoPqFW TAG id: 4313

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EDITED just after this message 4 confirmations in ~3 minutes passed seems like network lag (or like YAC is afraid of bitcointalk) Has anyone notice slowdown of transactions in YAC? Sent coins to bter near half an hour ago...still 0 confirmationsjust after this message 4 confirmations in ~3 minutes passedseems like network lag (or like YAC is afraid of bitcointalk) DTC: DMcKNp47fNtgM7sritK9GfJEQ1DzME5nwk

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Hero MemberActivity: 693Merit: 500 Re: [YAC]: YaCoin Information Thread May 27, 2013, 03:42:43 PM #81 Is there a current list of YAC pools? yac.dontmine.me is gone, yac.ltcoin.net is down too often. I've been using yacointalk's P2Pool, but I'm a fan of being able to see stats on my workers. I see the networkhashesps has hit >111MH/sec, so I'm guessing there's another big pool out there.

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