



However, it would be fairly easy to create a system to be used by private parites. The result would be a result that says whether or not the person is eligible. yes the person is eligible or no he isn't. If no, the person receives something in the mail like you do when you are denied credit. They then have the opportunity to fix any potential errors. The public does not have access to any records.



I describe how private party sales might work in a potential perfect bill in another post, but they were not covered under the recently failed amendment.



The fact personal private party sales were not included in that amendment makes it particularly bizarre you should raise that excuse now. 1) either you have no idea what was in the actual amendment, or 2) you do know are are assuming others here are too stupid to read the newspapers and will believe your distortions.



Nothing you raise has any basis in fact. The defeated amendment made no such determination about the mentally ill. The guidelines need not be different from what they are now other than extending to gun shows, internet sales, and (in my view but not the actual negotiated legislation) private sales. Only the mentally ill adjudicated by a court a danger to themselves or others would be prohibited form owning a gun, just as it is now. The only difference is that more sellers or all sellers would be required to perform a background check before making a sale.



As for your part 3, The paranoia of idiots cannot be a basis for national legislation. This country is full of delusional right wingers, and catering to them is insanity. There is no question that the nation is full of imbeciles, but that is their problem. They need to get an education. If for whatever reason they choose to believe that kind of false NRA propaganda, they also believe that the UN is getting ready to take over our government. Does that mean we shouldn't work with the UN or maintain a State Department either? If we run the country according to the paranoia of the wacko right, we might as well give up hope for the country all together. Excuse number three is the weakest possible reason to do nothing.



The only reason to do nothing is because gun interests make profit from murder and crime. Well, that and the desire for genocide, to kill off the population of color to reestablish white male exclusive rule in the United States. I suspect the paranoid who worry about gun confiscation also want to see white only rule reestablished.



So here we have yet more confirmation that the story about pro-gun folk on this site supporting the President's gun control measures was fiction. We have about twenty gunners making that quite clear. That puts them with the extreme right--the nine percent of the population that opposes background checks. Demographically, that aligns them with the Tea Baggers, since a majority of gun owners and even a majority of Republicans support background checks. The only demographic that opposes them by a majority is the Tea Party.



This thread is fascinating. More and more people are dropping their masks. Why would it be open to the public? Is it open to the public in gun stores now? Is your driver's record open to the public? Your credit report? How do you even dream up this stuff? The gun echo chamber must be a very strange place far removed from reality. The defeated amendment did not extend to personal private party sales. It extended only to gun shows and internet sales. You could save yourself a lot of bother by simply going to the Senate website and actually reading the bill.However, it would be fairly easy to create a system to be used by private parites. The result would be a result that says whether or not the person is eligible. yes the person is eligible or no he isn't. If no, the person receives something in the mail like you do when you are denied credit. They then have the opportunity to fix any potential errors. The public does not have access to any records.I describe how private party sales might work in a potential perfect bill in another post, but they were not covered under the recently failed amendment. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3031417 The fact personal private party sales were not included in that amendment makes it particularly bizarre you should raise that excuse now. 1) either you have no idea what was in the actual amendment, or 2) you do know are are assuming others here are too stupid to read the newspapers and will believe your distortions.Nothing you raise has any basis in fact. The defeated amendment made no such determination about the mentally ill. The guidelines need not be different from what they are now other than extending to gun shows, internet sales, and (in my view but not the actual negotiated legislation) private sales. Only the mentally ill adjudicated by a court a danger to themselves or others would be prohibited form owning a gun, just as it is now. The only difference is that more sellers or all sellers would be required to perform a background check before making a sale.As for your part 3, The paranoia of idiots cannot be a basis for national legislation. This country is full of delusional right wingers, and catering to them is insanity. There is no question that the nation is full of imbeciles, but that is their problem. They need to get an education. If for whatever reason they choose to believe that kind of false NRA propaganda, they also believe that the UN is getting ready to take over our government. Does that mean we shouldn't work with the UN or maintain a State Department either? If we run the country according to the paranoia of the wacko right, we might as well give up hope for the country all together. Excuse number three is the weakest possible reason to do nothing.The only reason to do nothing is because gun interests make profit from murder and crime. Well, that and the desire for genocide, to kill off the population of color to reestablish white male exclusive rule in the United States. I suspect the paranoid who worry about gun confiscation also want to see white only rule reestablished.So here we have yet more confirmation that the story about pro-gun folk on this site supporting the President's gun control measures was fiction. We have about twenty gunners making that quite clear. That puts them with the extreme right--the nine percent of the population that opposes background checks. Demographically, that aligns them with the Tea Baggers, since a majority of gun owners and even a majority of Republicans support background checks. The only demographic that opposes them by a majority is the Tea Party.This thread is fascinating. More and more people are dropping their masks.