SC2 Power Rank: May 2019 Text by TL.net ESPORTS Power Rank: May 2019 by TeamLiquid.net writers



The May Power Rank comes in a few days early, squeezing in before the start of the new Code S Season. Two GSL trophies have been handed out since the previous power rank, which makes picking #1 and #2 a cinch. As for the rest of the rankings? Well, that's a good deal more complicated after an unusual Super Tournament...



The Power Rank is an aggregate, average ranking of separate lists submitted by individual members of the TeamLiquid.net writing staff.



Criteria considered include, but are not limited to: Tournament placements, overall record, quality of opponents faced, and quality of play.



Recent results are weighted more heavily, but players receive benefit of the doubt for consistent performance over time.



Close, But No Cigar Reynor and Neeb: The WCS Winter champions just barely missed out on making the power rank over players who didn't do much winning in the past month. While that's partially due to the Korean elitism that's always pervaded this entire website the Power Rank, the half-value perception of the Winter season certainly didn't help either of their cases.



#10

INnoVation

-5



About everything else has gone wrong for INnoVation. He failed to qualify for the Super Tournament after being eliminated by sOs and PartinG in the qualifiers, both of whom made a resurgence at the main event. Combined with his previous RO16 elimination from Code S, the lack of GSL results in 2019 so far has been a huge blow to INnoVation's reputation, despite his big WESG payday. While INnoVation’s bank account soared upwards after his WESG championship, his standing in the Power Rank has tanked severely due to his shoddy results ever since. On the positive side of things, Inno did manage to qualify for the next season of GSL Code S, albeit in a very shaky manner through the lower bracket of his group (he defeated MC, a recently returned Armani, and Creator).About everything else has gone wrong for INnoVation. He failed to qualify for the Super Tournament after being eliminated by sOs and PartinG in the qualifiers, both of whom made a resurgence at the main event. Combined with his previous RO16 elimination from Code S, the lack of GSL results in 2019 so far has been a huge blow to INnoVation's reputation, despite his big WESG payday.



#9

soO

-3



For soO, the only bright points since winning We’re trusting in our major tournament champions for a little while longer as soO remains in the Power Rank alongside INnoVation. However, the former teammates are on steady course to leave the top ten by the time the June edition of the Power Rank rolls around.For soO, the only bright points since winning IEM Katowice have been his qualification for the upcoming season of GSL Code S (which was even shakier than INnoVation’s lackluster run) and his qualification for the previous GSL Super Tournament. Although soO fell immediately to Classic in the Super Tournament, at least losing to the eventual tournament champion was the 'best' way to suffer first round elimination.



#8

Dear

+1 With INnoVation and soO dropping rapidly down the ranks, Dear finds himself somehow moving up a single spot. April was very 'meh' for the veteran Protoss. His prior loss to Maru in Code S may have killed his PvT hot-streak, but Dear quickly got another streak going in the GSL Code S and Super Tournament qualifiers where he defeated FanTaSy, KeeN, and aLive on his way to dual qualification.



However, he was quickly eliminated from the Super Tournament in a 1-3 loss to Zest, and he put in some mixed performances as Newbee's ace player in the two Chinese team tournaments. Notably, he showed weakness in PvP, getting sniped by Chinese Protoss Sakura/TATP while also dropping games to both Zest and herO. If Dear continues to to be so unbalanced in his match-ups, then he might be doomed to only advance as far as his PvT takes him.



#7

Trap

+1



Still, Trap was impressive in online tournaments, placing earn some benefit of the doubt, unlike many other players where we have to go largely on reputation and faith. Trap's shocking semifinal run in the first season of the GSL Code S was a much needed breath of fresh air for both the JAGW player and the Code S title picture, but he was unable to follow it with an appearance in the Super Tournament. It felt like a missed opportunity—the level of play in some of the matches seemed like that of the lower rounds of Code S, and a lucky bracket could have seen Trap make a deep run.Still, Trap was impressive in online tournaments, placing first in two OlimoLeague Weeklies over the likes of TY, Zest, herO, Leenock and a handful of other GSL regulars. While online tournaments aren't as meaningful as the offline majors, at least Trap used online competition tosome benefit of the doubt, unlike many other players where we have to go largely on reputation and faith.



#6

Serral

-3



Serral enjoyed plenty of stomps in 2018, but it was also a year where he came from 2-3 behind against Stats to win GSL vs. The World, and a year where he won WCS Montreal by taking three full-set ZvZ's series in a row. Reynor actually had Serral dead to rights in the WCS Montreal finals, but Serral ended up stealing the trophy after winning the single most ridiculous comeback game in WCS Circuit history in force victories in 2018. Four months into 2019, Serral has already suffered three major tournament losses that were decided by a single game—2-3 to soO at IEM Katowice (RO8), 3-4 to INnoVation at WESG (finals), and in April, 3-4 to Reynor at WCS Winter Europe (finals). While some might consider this to be a mere unlucky streak, it's a bit concerning when you consider how clutch Serral was in 2018.Serral enjoyed plenty of stomps in 2018, but it was also a year where he came from 2-3 behind against Stats to win GSL vs. The World, and a year where he won WCS Montreal by taking three full-set ZvZ's series in a row. Reynor actually had Serral dead to rights in the WCS Montreal finals, but Serral ended up stealing the trophy after winning the single most ridiculous comeback game in WCS Circuit history in game six . While the overall quality of Serral's play in 2019 suggests he hasn't declined much, one has to wonder if he's lost an edge—be it intimidation, series planning, or some other quality—that allowed him tovictories in 2018.



#5

Gumiho

New!



The Super Tournament final against Classic was a neat encapsulation of the best and worst of GuMiho—his build orders and harassment put him in position to take an early series lead, but instead he blew two enormous in-game leads when Classic crushed him in key battles.



GuMiho will probably stick around the PR for at least another month this time around, as he typically manages to get through to the Code S RO16. But would we be shocked if he dropped out after losing in his RO32 group? Not particularly—that would just be life as usual for one of StarCraft II's most chaotic and entertaining players. GuMiho continues his 2019 Power Rank roller-coaster ride, soaring all the way to #5 after being unranked in the previous month. In March, GuMiho looked outmatched against the GSL's elite players when he went 0-4 against TY and soO in his Code S RO16 group. In April, he looked like a member of the elite himself as he meched down Dark and Stats on his way to the Super Tournament finals.The Super Tournament final against Classic was a neat encapsulation of the best and worst of GuMiho—his build orders and harassment put him in position to take an early series lead, but instead he blew two enormous in-game leads when Classic crushed him in key battles.GuMiho will probably stick around the PR for at least another month this time around, as he typically manages to get through to the Code S RO16. But would we be shocked if he dropped out after losing in his RO32 group? Not particularly—that would just be life as usual for one of StarCraft II's most chaotic and entertaining players.



#4

Stats

No change



After a month's break from Korean StarCraft (going 0-2 in the Round of 32 of Code S will do these things), Stats played what very well could have been the



Regardless of how his Super Tournament came to an end, Stats has once more proven he belongs among the elite. He may have had a rare failure in last season’s Code S, but he’s one of two Koreans who’ve been able to routinely defeat Maru (the other being sOs) and one of the few who has a chance to dethrone the four time champion in Stats prompted an interesting dilemma for TLnet’s writing staff last month. How were we weigh Stats complete inactivity (literally) against everyone else’s underwhelming results?After a month's break from Korean StarCraft (going 0-2 in the Round of 32 of Code S will do these things), Stats played what very well could have been the best series of the Super Tournament against Maru in the tournament’s opening tilt. Game four in particular is being lauded for its frenetic pace and back and forth action, but the entire affair served to remind us of just how good Stats is. He’s remains one of, if not the best, Protoss in the world, though being swept by GuMiho in the very next match does tarnish that claim a bit.Regardless of how his Super Tournament came to an end, Stats has once more proven he belongs among the elite. He may have had a rare failure in last season’s Code S, but he’s one of two Koreans who’ve been able to routinely defeat Maru (the other being sOs) and one of the few who has a chance to dethrone the four time champion in this next season.



#3

Dark

-2



Dark's Code S



The Super Tournament offered Dark a chance to make up a chance for his latest failure, but he only ended up suffering an even more embarrassing defeat. Dark’s



Dark and his fans must once again look at the Last month, we saw Dark at his best, being the only Korean player with the consistency to earn a high placement at all three majors (Code S, WESG, IEM). This month, we saw Dark at his worst.Dark's Code S semifinal loss summed up why we call him a title contender and choker at the same time. He looked to be the superior player against Classic. His multitasking had Classic grasping at thin air. His macro made Classic leery of playing the long game. His micro was too much for Classic’s old-hands. But somehow, Dark was still outwitted just enough times by proxies and timings to lose in a seven game series.The Super Tournament offered Dark a chance to make up a chance for his latest failure, but he only ended up suffering an even more embarrassing defeat. Dark’s RO16 series against GuMiho was brutally long, with players each winning a pair of drawn out macro games. GuMiho seemed to have all but gifted Dark a path to the quarterfinals after inexplicably giving up his third Command Center during a Ravager-Ling all-in, but Dark gifted the series right back by playing his lead far too passively.Dark and his fans must once again look at the upcoming season of Code S with both hope and dread, and wonder what another playoff loss would mean for his legacy.



#2

Classic

+5



His first major obstacle of the month was his old nemesis Dark in the Code S semifinals. Classic's insolent ex-teammate had gotten the better of him in many past meetings, but Classic managed to overcome Dark with a combination of great preparation and Dark’s misplaced faith in neural parasite. Classic was just as diligent in preparing against his finals opponent Maru, even bringing out a proxy tempest in his long list of cunning builds. Despite Classic’s best efforts, Maru was not as easily duped as Classic's previous opponents, and held out to take a 4-2 victory.



While Maru bowed out of the



While this will probably be Classic’s last pro gaming year, he's given us reason to believe that Super Tournament 1 won't be the grand finale. Classic’s year started out on a grim note, with the specter of military service manifesting quite viscerally by denying his participation at IEM Katowice. However, the veteran Protoss responded to the setback by setting his laser-like focus on winning glory in Korea.His first major obstacle of the month was his old nemesis Dark in the Code S semifinals. Classic's insolent ex-teammate had gotten the better of him in many past meetings, but Classic managed to overcome Dark with a combination of great preparation and Dark’s misplaced faith in neural parasite. Classic was just as diligent in preparing against his finals opponent Maru, even bringing out a proxy tempest in his long list of cunning builds. Despite Classic’s best efforts, Maru was not as easily duped as Classic's previous opponents, and held out to take a 4-2 victory.While Maru bowed out of the Super Tournament early in his 'traditional' post-Code S malaise, Classic seemed even more intent on winning a title after his Code S finals loss. He vanquished soO and sOs with ease, and then took out Patience 3-2 in the semifinals. In the finals, Classic proved that it was Maru—not Terran—that was his problem, crushing GuMiho 4-1 to win the championship.While this will probably be Classic’s last pro gaming year, he's given us reason to believe that Super Tournament 1 won't be the grand finale.



#1

Maru

+1



Yet, in Korea's most prestigious competition, Maru returned to magnificent form. A Code S semifinal upset to Trap seemed to be on the cards after Maru's prior struggles (especially given the nature of team kills), but he made the match seem like a formality by speed-running Trap in around forty minutes on his way to the finals.



was a much closer affair—while Maru smashed Classic with strong two-base timings, Classic responded by hitting Maru with devastating cheeses. But with the series tied up 2-2 Maru, closed the series out with two decisive victories. On King's Cove, Maru managed to both turtle and stay active, slowly building his advantage until he could finish Classic off with Battlecruisers. Then, on the deciding map of Year Zero, Maru deflected a desperate DT rush to clinch his fourth consecutive Code S title.



Despite an early elimination at the hands of Stats in the GSL Super Tournament a few days later, there Maru managed to look frightening even in his defeat. His attempts to mech vs Protoss seemed like more than a curiosity, with his



With such strong performances, a match-up innovation, and historic Code S achievement, Maru has vindicated himself once more as the best in the world. To say that we were 'worried' about Maru at the start of the year would be an understatement. A group stage exit at IEM Katowice, 2nd place advancement in the Code S Ro16, and 3rd place WESG: not the kind of results we expected from last year’s triple Code S champion.Yet, in Korea's most prestigious competition, Maru returned to magnificent form. A Code S semifinal upset to Trap seemed to be on the cards after Maru's prior struggles (especially given the nature of team kills), but he made the match seem like a formality by speed-running Trap in around forty minutes on his way to the finals. The final was a much closer affair—while Maru smashed Classic with strong two-base timings, Classic responded by hitting Maru with devastating cheeses. But with the series tied up 2-2 Maru, closed the series out with two decisive victories. On King's Cove, Maru managed to both turtle and stay active, slowly building his advantage until he could finish Classic off with Battlecruisers. Then, on the deciding map of Year Zero, Maru deflected a desperate DT rush to clinch his fourth consecutive Code S title.Despite an early elimination at the hands of Stats in the GSL Super Tournament a few days later, there Maru managed to look frightening even in his defeat. His attempts to mech vs Protoss seemed like more than a curiosity, with his match on Year Zero a sure candidate for best game of the year.With such strong performances, a match-up innovation, and historic Code S achievement, Maru has vindicated himself once more as the best in the world.





The May Power Rank comes in a few days early, squeezing in before the start of the new Code S Season. Two GSL trophies have been handed out since the previous power rank, which makes picking #1 and #2 a cinch. As for the rest of the rankings? Well, that's a good deal more complicated after an unusual Super Tournament...The WCS Winter champions just barely missed out on making the power rank over players who didn't do much winning in the past month. While that's partially due to the Korean elitism that's always pervadedthe Power Rank, the half-value perception of the Winter season certainly didn't help either of their cases. Credits and acknowledgements



Ranking contributors: TeamLiquid.net writing staff

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fronkschnonk Profile Joined November 2011 Germany 616 Posts #2 I think it would've been legit to rank Classic as #1 as he is the only one who achieved great results in all of his tournaments this year so far. But think Maru is ok, too. Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.

MyiPtitDrogo Profile Joined June 2017 25 Posts #3 Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime

travis Profile Blog Joined May 2003 United States 23812 Posts #4 This ranking actually does look better to me than some of the other ones lately. Even if I do think Serral will smash every other player on it the next time they meet.



Also dear and trap don't really sit well with me on that ranking... don't see why Reynor wouldn't be in there when they are. Team Liquid

FrostedMiniWheats Profile Joined August 2010 United States 30729 Posts #5 On April 28 2019 07:00 MyiPtitDrogo wrote:

Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime



What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever

midhigh Profile Joined July 2018 44 Posts #6 The problem with ranking Serral any higher is, he simply does not play enough matches against quality opponents (i am not talking about only Koreans) to prove that he should be any higher. We all know that he Is the best player in EU/NA by a mile, and also the one of the best player in the world, but this year already proved he can bleed. It would have been one thing, to loose against Maru, but in the last ~6 months, he has losses against all races, and players with mediocre results at the times they played (Neeb, Heromarine, Innovation, Reynor, soO). So maybe those were right all along, who said from the very beggining that, we just cannot place him any higher in those months when he barely plays against any high quality player. It is one thing to do it a few times a year (actually there is only 2 tournaments for him to show his skill, Katowice and Blizzcon), and it is another thing to beat them (Koreans) week in week out. As soO/Inno proved us in Korea,not just the top players beat Serral, the GSL round 16 tear can do it also. So yes, maybe Serral should be higher than Gumiho, who just bombed out from the group of Death in GSL r16, and act like Serral's loss to Heromarine does not count, or maybe he shouldn't.

BerserkSword Profile Joined December 2018 United States 1897 Posts Last Edited: 2019-04-27 23:00:27 #7 So let me get this straight. Neeb beat scarlett (Code S caliber player) to win a premier tournament and Reynor beat Serral in the finals of a premier tournament and Serral is ahead of them both?



just sayin



ZigguratOfUr Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Iraq 16057 Posts Last Edited: 2019-04-27 23:02:36 #8 On April 28 2019 07:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 28 2019 07:00 MyiPtitDrogo wrote:

Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime



What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him?



The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?



Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.



The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though. On April 28 2019 07:58 BerserkSword wrote:

So let me get this straight. Neeb beat scarlett (Code S caliber player) to win a premier tournament and Reynor beat Serral in the finals of a premier tournament and Serral is ahead of them both?



just sayin





Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament. Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament. Maps I made recently: Nevermore: https://i.imgur.com/NiqR0Rj.jpg | Rubaiyat: https://i.imgur.com/XD3E3vd.jpg | Grand Canal: https://i.imgur.com/kNgyOCo.jpg

BerserkSword Profile Joined December 2018 United States 1897 Posts #9 On April 28 2019 07:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 28 2019 07:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:00 MyiPtitDrogo wrote:

Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime



What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him?



The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?



Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.



Show nested quote +

On April 28 2019 07:58 BerserkSword wrote:

So let me get this straight. Neeb beat scarlett (Code S caliber player) to win a premier tournament and Reynor beat Serral in the finals of a premier tournament and Serral is ahead of them both?



just sayin





Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament. The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament.



I understand, but this is a monthly power ranking



and serral had an abysmal month.



It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to me



that said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture

I understand, but this is apower rankingand serral had an abysmal month.It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to methat said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture

IshinShishi Profile Joined April 2012 Japan 4882 Posts #10 Dear being this high again and again is non-sensical and meme worthy, Id put so many players above dear it isnt funny, Reynor being one of them. So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie

ZigguratOfUr Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Iraq 16057 Posts #11 On April 28 2019 08:08 BerserkSword wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 28 2019 07:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:00 MyiPtitDrogo wrote:

Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime



What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him?



The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?



Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.



On April 28 2019 07:58 BerserkSword wrote:

So let me get this straight. Neeb beat scarlett (Code S caliber player) to win a premier tournament and Reynor beat Serral in the finals of a premier tournament and Serral is ahead of them both?



just sayin





Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament. The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament.



I understand, but this is a monthly power ranking



and serral had an abysmal month.



It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to me



that said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture

I understand, but this is apower rankingand serral had an abysmal month.It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to methat said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture



Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results). Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results). Maps I made recently: Nevermore: https://i.imgur.com/NiqR0Rj.jpg | Rubaiyat: https://i.imgur.com/XD3E3vd.jpg | Grand Canal: https://i.imgur.com/kNgyOCo.jpg

JJH777 Profile Joined January 2011 United States 3468 Posts #12 On April 28 2019 08:26 IshinShishi wrote:

Dear being this high again and again is non-sensical and meme worthy, Id put so many players above dear it isnt funny, Reynor being one of them.



Dear got top 8 at IEM and GSL and qualified for super tournament. I think that beats not making groups at IEM, losing in ro16 of WESG, and winning WCS winter. Dear got top 8 at IEM and GSL and qualified for super tournament. I think that beats not making groups at IEM, losing in ro16 of WESG, and winning WCS winter.

BerserkSword Profile Joined December 2018 United States 1897 Posts #13 On April 28 2019 08:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 28 2019 08:08 BerserkSword wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:00 MyiPtitDrogo wrote:

Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime



What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him?



The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?



Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.



On April 28 2019 07:58 BerserkSword wrote:

So let me get this straight. Neeb beat scarlett (Code S caliber player) to win a premier tournament and Reynor beat Serral in the finals of a premier tournament and Serral is ahead of them both?



just sayin





Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament. The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament.



I understand, but this is a monthly power ranking



and serral had an abysmal month.



It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to me



that said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture

I understand, but this is apower rankingand serral had an abysmal month.It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to methat said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture



Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results). Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results).



I am not directly contesting Gumiho's placement with regards to Neeb



I am contesting Serral's placement with regards to Neeb and Reynor considering the fact that april results apparently weigh so heavily (gumio getting into top 10 on the back of his april performance alone)



if the argument is that Serral maintained his top 10 because of prior results, despite having an atrocious April, while Neeb and Reynor are still stuck above 10, then how is it that Gumiho's prior results are ignored and he is catapulted to top 5 just because he got second place at a recent super tournament.



I'm just saying it's inconsistent imo. Serral's april is nowhere near top 10, but he got in by virtue of his older results. Gumiho had a top 10 april imo, but his older results are relatively poor. and yet these players are 1 spot apart. how is this possible especially when a player like neeb had a better april than serral and better results before april than gumiho, and he is still stuck outside of top 10.

I am not directly contesting Gumiho's placement with regards to NeebI am contesting Serral's placement with regards to Neeb and Reynor considering the fact that april results apparently weigh so heavily (gumio getting into top 10 on the back of his april performance alone)if the argument is that Serral maintained his top 10 because of prior results, despite having an atrocious April, while Neeb and Reynor are still stuck above 10, then how is it that Gumiho's prior results are ignored and he is catapulted to top 5 just because he got second place at a recent super tournament.I'm just saying it's inconsistent imo. Serral's april is nowhere near top 10, but he got in by virtue of his older results. Gumiho had a top 10 april imo, but his older results are relatively poor. and yet these players are 1 spot apart. how is this possible especially when a player like neeb had a better april than serral and better results before april than gumiho, and he is still stuck outside of top 10.

ZigguratOfUr Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Iraq 16057 Posts #14 On April 28 2019 08:51 BerserkSword wrote:

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On April 28 2019 08:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

On April 28 2019 08:08 BerserkSword wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:00 MyiPtitDrogo wrote:

Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime



What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him?



The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?



Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.



On April 28 2019 07:58 BerserkSword wrote:

So let me get this straight. Neeb beat scarlett (Code S caliber player) to win a premier tournament and Reynor beat Serral in the finals of a premier tournament and Serral is ahead of them both?



just sayin





Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament. The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament.



I understand, but this is a monthly power ranking



and serral had an abysmal month.



It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to me



that said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture

I understand, but this is apower rankingand serral had an abysmal month.It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to methat said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture



Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results). Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results).



I am not directly contesting Gumiho's placement with regards to Neeb



I am contesting Serral's placement with regards to Neeb and Reynor considering the fact that april results apparently weigh so heavily (gumio getting into top 10 on the back of his april performance alone)



if the argument is that Serral maintained his top 10 because of prior results, despite having an atrocious April, while Neeb and Reynor are still stuck above 10, then how is it that Gumiho's prior results are ignored and he is catapulted to top 5 just because he got second place at a recent super tournament.



I'm just saying it's inconsistent imo. Serral's april is nowhere near top 10, but he got in by virtue of his older results. Gumiho had a top 10 april imo, but his older results are relatively poor. and yet these players are 1 spot apart. how is this possible especially when a player like neeb had a better april than serral and better results before april than gumiho, and he is still stuck outside of top 10.

I am not directly contesting Gumiho's placement with regards to NeebI am contesting Serral's placement with regards to Neeb and Reynor considering the fact that april results apparently weigh so heavily (gumio getting into top 10 on the back of his april performance alone)if the argument is that Serral maintained his top 10 because of prior results, despite having an atrocious April, while Neeb and Reynor are still stuck above 10, then how is it that Gumiho's prior results are ignored and he is catapulted to top 5 just because he got second place at a recent super tournament.I'm just saying it's inconsistent imo. Serral's april is nowhere near top 10, but he got in by virtue of his older results. Gumiho had a top 10 april imo, but his older results are relatively poor. and yet these players are 1 spot apart. how is this possible especially when a player like neeb had a better april than serral and better results before april than gumiho, and he is still stuck outside of top 10.



Because his 2019 as a whole has been worse than both GuMiho and Serral I assume. Because his 2019 as a whole has been worse than both GuMiho and Serral I assume. Maps I made recently: Nevermore: https://i.imgur.com/NiqR0Rj.jpg | Rubaiyat: https://i.imgur.com/XD3E3vd.jpg | Grand Canal: https://i.imgur.com/kNgyOCo.jpg

Xain0n Profile Joined November 2018 Italy 3180 Posts #15 On April 28 2019 06:51 fronkschnonk wrote:

I think it would've been legit to rank Classic as #1 as he is the only one who achieved great results in all of his tournaments this year so far. But think Maru is ok, too.



I agree, Classic would deserve #1 but it is acceptable for Maru to occupy the first spot. Serral dropped too many positions, especially when compared to Dark losing two and Stats remaining stationary; I'm not sold on Dear advancing, as well.

A decent Power Ranking, overall. I agree, Classic would deserve #1 but it is acceptable for Maru to occupy the first spot. Serral dropped too many positions, especially when compared to Dark losing two and Stats remaining stationary; I'm not sold on Dear advancing, as well.A decent Power Ranking, overall.

BisuDagger Profile Blog Joined October 2009 Bisutopia 17619 Posts #16 PR makes a good point about Serral riding on the success in ZvZs. They are legitimate wins and he put on a fantastic show, but the resume always looks weaker if you dont play non-mirror matchups. Moderator Ofiicial Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2

BerserkSword Profile Joined December 2018 United States 1897 Posts #17 On April 28 2019 09:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 28 2019 08:51 BerserkSword wrote:

On April 28 2019 08:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

On April 28 2019 08:08 BerserkSword wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

On April 28 2019 07:00 MyiPtitDrogo wrote:

Just make this power ranking a korean only thing and save me the trouble of triggering the fuck out of me by ranking serral so low everytime



What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him? What has he done lately to be ranked higher than the 5 Koreans above him?



The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?



Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.



On April 28 2019 07:58 BerserkSword wrote:

So let me get this straight. Neeb beat scarlett (Code S caliber player) to win a premier tournament and Reynor beat Serral in the finals of a premier tournament and Serral is ahead of them both?



just sayin





Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament. The counterargument would be that Serral has barely played since WESG and IEM (which were not the dominating performance that some people expected from Serral, but still quite good), so is losing a close series to Reynor really worth dropping three spots?Personally I don't have an issue with players speculatively dropping down the list when they have very little activity to go upon though.Reynor hedging Serral out by one map in WCS Winter doesn't magically compensate for a much worse result in every other meaningful tournament.



I understand, but this is a monthly power ranking



and serral had an abysmal month.



It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to me



that said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture

I understand, but this is apower rankingand serral had an abysmal month.It's the same reason gumiho is "new" for this month. It's because he had a great month. Otherwise, someone like Neeb has out performed gumiho in every premier tournament they've both been in recently and yet Neeb is still not top 10. just seems inconsistent to methat said, i know power rankings are highly subjective anyway especially when time frame comes into the picture



Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results). Sure, but the power rank doesn't only consider the results of the last month. GuMiho got his rank because a super-tournament 2nd place finish is more impressive than beating Scarlett in a bo7 match which happens to be called WCS Winter Americas (and that's not say I actually agree with the writers' assessment of GuMiho's results).



I am not directly contesting Gumiho's placement with regards to Neeb



I am contesting Serral's placement with regards to Neeb and Reynor considering the fact that april results apparently weigh so heavily (gumio getting into top 10 on the back of his april performance alone)



if the argument is that Serral maintained his top 10 because of prior results, despite having an atrocious April, while Neeb and Reynor are still stuck above 10, then how is it that Gumiho's prior results are ignored and he is catapulted to top 5 just because he got second place at a recent super tournament.



I'm just saying it's inconsistent imo. Serral's april is nowhere near top 10, but he got in by virtue of his older results. Gumiho had a top 10 april imo, but his older results are relatively poor. and yet these players are 1 spot apart. how is this possible especially when a player like neeb had a better april than serral and better results before april than gumiho, and he is still stuck outside of top 10.

I am not directly contesting Gumiho's placement with regards to NeebI am contesting Serral's placement with regards to Neeb and Reynor considering the fact that april results apparently weigh so heavily (gumio getting into top 10 on the back of his april performance alone)if the argument is that Serral maintained his top 10 because of prior results, despite having an atrocious April, while Neeb and Reynor are still stuck above 10, then how is it that Gumiho's prior results are ignored and he is catapulted to top 5 just because he got second place at a recent super tournament.I'm just saying it's inconsistent imo. Serral's april is nowhere near top 10, but he got in by virtue of his older results. Gumiho had a top 10 april imo, but his older results are relatively poor. and yet these players are 1 spot apart. how is this possible especially when a player like neeb had a better april than serral and better results before april than gumiho, and he is still stuck outside of top 10.



Because his 2019 as a whole has been worse than both GuMiho and Serral I assume. Because his 2019 as a whole has been worse than both GuMiho and Serral I assume.



Neeb did better in 2019 than gumiho



finals of ST is more impressive than winning WCS, but otherwise neeb had the superior 2019

Neeb did better in 2019 than gumihofinals of ST is more impressive than winning WCS, but otherwise neeb had the superior 2019

Anc13nt Profile Joined October 2017 1322 Posts Last Edited: 2019-04-28 01:23:45 #18 As an Inno fan, I'd put neeb at 10th and Reynor at 9th. Inno and soO have been playing pretty bad this month.



Edit: I think rest of the list is fine though. There is good argument for Classic as no. 1 but good argument for Maru too. Jaedong, Bisu, Stats, INnoVation, Dark, ByuN. BW Name: Xeralos, Anc13nt

JJH777 Profile Joined January 2011 United States 3468 Posts Last Edited: 2019-04-28 02:04:29 #19 Reynor has only had mid tier results this year with the single exception of WCS Winter. People are giving him way too much credit for beating Serral when he has lost so many other matches vs mid tier players.



Reynor has lost to Losira, Alive, Creator, Gumiho, PtitDrogo, Neeb(multiple times), Showtime, Marinelord and Heromarine this year and that is just major events or qualifiers for those major events. Reynor has shown that he can beat almost anyone but he can also lose to players regularly that most of the people on this power rank almost never lose to.

ZertoN Profile Joined February 2014 Germany 212 Posts Last Edited: 2019-04-28 04:03:10 #20 serral could retire today and in the power ranking of september 2021 he'd somehow come in at #8. then the hardcore fanboys would ask how come he's rated so low "I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016

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