To promote Americans For Truth About Homosexuality’s fall banquet, keynote speaker and pseudo-scientist Judith Reisman of Liberty University appeared on AFTAH Radio Hour with Peter LaBarbera to discuss the fictional connection between pedophilia and homosexuality. According to LaBarbera, “many homosexual men were victims of predators, older men, as teenage boys they were seduced into the lifestyle,” and once again insisted that CNN anchor Don Lemon is gay because he was molested.

Reisman argued that pedophiles have targeted the government, the military and schools for infiltration like Soviet spies in order to seek power.

LaBarbera: Judith do you think they are going to succeed in creating sympathy for pedophiles? Reisman: They already have, this is growing. Let’s understand something; you have many pederasts and pedophiles in positions of power. I thought about writing a book years ago called ‘Pedophiles in Power,’ you don’t get to where we are unless you have so to speak spies in the woodwork, you know? Through World War II some of our top people were working for the Russians and they were advising Franklin Delano Roosevelt. So you have to have people in power, in top positions of power, both in the military by the way, in the church and in the school in order to create the kind of— LaBarbera: So Judith you’re saying you can’t get to this level of influence without people in high places and of course we’ve seen that also with the homosexual movement and other movements.

LaBarbera and Reisman agreed that the California law banning sexual orientation conversion therapy is designed to help child predators convince their victims that they are gay and therefore increase the gay “power structure.”

LaBarbera: Because of this law, this oppressive law that the homosexualists have pushed, trying to ban treatment for people with this unwanted homosexual attraction that now a boy becomes a victim of say an older man, a pedophile, and he won’t be able to get treatment to reverse that homosexual ideation that’s going on in that kid’s mind. Reisman: I think that’s the design of the bill, let’s be frank, that’s the design of the bill. There are people in high places, powerful people, who do not want children to reverse their—get straightened out. They don’t want that, they do want to increase their power and their power is based and increased in the numbers of people who self-identify as homosexuals or bisexual or transgender and so forth and so forth. The power lay in the population, the power lay in increasing the number of people who self-identify as dysfunctional but think that that’s normal. The bill in California is designed to increase that power structure, the voting bloc if you will.

LaBarbera’s co-host, pastor John Kirkwood, called the “homosexual movement” the “greatest threat to freedom” in the US and LaBarbera said gays and lesbians are “similar to the Muslims, when they get the power that’s when they start oppressing freedom.”