X Complete Initialization for 10 kreds Complete the Quest and earn an exclusive shiny kongpanion + 10 kreds 15% « Previous Next » Congratulations! You’ve completed your Kongregate account! Keep exploring Kongregate with more badges and games! Congratulations! You’ve completed your Kartridge quest! Spend your hard earned kreds on some of these games! Hide the progress bar forever? Yes No Forums → Animation Throwdown → General → A Toy Battleground Effect is coming soon! ​ Limit my search to this forum 21 posts There was an error. Delete post THIS IS A SPINNER or cancel THIS IS A SPINNER metadata ![](https://cdn3.kongcdn.com/assets/files/0002/7178/AT_toyBGEpreview.png) A Toy BGE is coming soon! Running 12/19/19 - 1/9/20, additional details to be announced. metadata Cuddly metadata Hold on to your turds. Gonna be a frenzy when it hits. metadata > *Originally posted by **[Anewbous](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295186)**:* > Hold on to your turds. Gonna be a frenzy when it hits. idk. i didnt necessarily like the all the combos metadata > _Originally posted by **[emmesa27](/forums/726779/topics/1878122?page=1#13295198):**_ > > *Originally posted by **[Anewbous](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295186)**:* > > Hold on to your turds. Gonna be a frenzy when it hits. > > idk. i didnt necessarily like the all the combos The combos arent that great compared to when they introduced the addicted and rich BGEs metadata The date for the ending bge is wrong.. change 2019 for 2020! metadata > *Originally posted by **[emmesa27](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295198)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[Anewbous](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295186)**:* > > Hold on to your turds. Gonna be a frenzy when it hits. > > idk. i didnt necessarily like the all the combos Yeah, weak combos. No one in my guild is going to use their GT stash. metadata > *Originally posted by **[mfruity](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295209)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[emmesa27](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295198)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[Anewbous](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295186)**:* > > > Hold on to your turds. Gonna be a frenzy when it hits. > > > > idk. i didnt necessarily like the all the combos > > Yeah, weak combos. No one in my guild is going to use their GT stash. > They leaned too much on proliferating existing Toy combos. Many of those combos are trash and even the worthwhile ones aren't game winners. Unfortunately, the most prevalently used characters mostly have these less desirable combos which makes Toy a tough trait to jump into with both feet. There are some good new combos, but they're largely associated with lesser used (and owned) characters. For many, making a good Toy deck would require acquisition of those characters, making it extra expensive. Possibly ideal from Kong's point of view, less so from most player's perspective. Players who already have multiple copies of the critical Toy characters or are willing to acquire them will be able to make a good Toy deck. Needless to say, those will be the more heavily invested players. Players who invest in making a good Toy deck are liable to gain extra advantage if much of the player base shies away from the trait. Though at this point, even taking into account Toy's good combos, it doesn't look to be as powerful as other traits like Rich and Addicted. It will be interesting to see whether playing Toy with a BGE bonus will be superior to playing off-BGE using a deck from a stronger and more developed trait. Of course Toy could evolve into a more worthwhile trait in it's next BGE, which would further reward its early adopters and speculative investors. Hard to say whether this state of affairs is a diabolical Kong design, poor planning, or a bit of both. Will be interested to see whether or not Toy winds up being a success. metadata agreed, very underwhelming combos metadata The interesting point in investing large amounts of GT is, that there are only 5 legendary object cards, which increases the chance of getting doubles or quads. But I won't invest, since I wasted all my GT on rich. metadata maybe the toy-bge-boost is very strong? so the "weak-combos" would be stronger while toy-bge... metadata Diaper Doll Linda looks good, but who has Lindas... metadata > *Originally posted by **[szfrog6](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295272)**:* > maybe the toy-bge-boost is very strong? so the "weak-combos" would be stronger while toy-bge... Maybe, but the combos will still be terrible outside of the BGE even if they give huge buffs. metadata > _Originally posted by **[Anewbous](/forums/726779/topics/1878122?page=1#13295186):**_ > Hold on to your turds. Gonna be a frenzy when it hits. Would you call that a $h!t storm... metadata > *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295224)**:* > > Of course Toy could evolve into a more worthwhile trait in it's next BGE, which would further reward its early adopters and speculative investors. > > Hard to say whether this state of affairs is a diabolical Kong design, poor planning, or a bit of both. Will be interested to see whether or not Toy winds up being a success. I think the 2nd gen of Toy will be a lot better. Kong made the 1st gen cards crappy by design. They want to dilute the GT pool so players will need to spend twice as many GTs to get the better 2nd gen cards. metadata > _Originally posted by **[mfruity](/forums/726779/topics/1878122?page=1#13295321):**_ > > *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295224)**:* > > > > Of course Toy could evolve into a more worthwhile trait in it's next BGE, which would further reward its early adopters and speculative investors. > > > > Hard to say whether this state of affairs is a diabolical Kong design, poor planning, or a bit of both. Will be interested to see whether or not Toy winds up being a success. > > I think the 2nd gen of Toy will be a lot better. Kong made the 1st gen cards crappy by design. They want to dilute the GT pool so players will need to spend twice as many GTs to get the better 2nd gen cards. Where is Louise’s Toy trait designation? What about Mythic/Leggy Kuchi Kopi? So much potential totally wasted here! I really think Kong is being typical Kong here and trying to bait us. I’ll be saving my turds for that other new trait that’s in the pipeline. metadata > *Originally posted by **[mfruity](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295321)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1878122?page=1#13295224)**:* > > > > Of course Toy could evolve into a more worthwhile trait in it's next BGE, which would further reward its early adopters and speculative investors. > > > > Hard to say whether this state of affairs is a diabolical Kong design, poor planning, or a bit of both. Will be interested to see whether or not Toy winds up being a success. > > I think the 2nd gen of Toy will be a lot better. Kong made the 1st gen cards crappy by design. They want to dilute the GT pool so players will need to spend twice as many GTs to get the better 2nd gen cards. Quite possibly so. I also think that maybe they hope to force people to invest in the less popular characters in order to monetize those. I really wonder whether this is a short-sighted plan on their part. I invested a lot of GTs (over 200) into the first two offerings of Addicted, which is definitely my best trait. I also bought all 8 tiers plus one extra tier 8 of an Addicted box during it's 2nd BGE. Think I'm satisfied with my very solid and still relatively inexpensive Addicted deck? I am not. I'm already gearing up to make further investments in it - probably even more gems than I spent previously. Sure my GTs gave me a great start, but they also prompted some pretty significant further investment. I was planning to follow the same course with Toy. Now I'm seriously considering sitting out Toy altogether. If Kong is intentionally designing new traits that are more difficult and expensive to develop, then my advice would be "**Don't**". Don't begrudge us the the ability to save and invest GTs to build the base of a deck. Don't cut off all the commonly used characters from decent combos. Stop trying to thwart smart players' strategies for efficiently playing your game. It still leaves plenty of additional player investment for Kong's profit. Intentionally making things difficult turns us off to a brand new trait and maybe eventually the entire game. metadata Bge boost will be 50% more hp so if you don't have bge cards you'll get crushed. This bge was made for the 5-6 whale who will buy 25 cm3 quad pc, will make some strong one man siege island metadata > _Originally posted by **[AWaagemans](/forums/726779/topics/1878122?page=1#13295378):**_ > Bge boost will be 50% more hp so if you don't have bge cards you'll get crushed. Nah, CM will still rule all else. metadata I'm not impressed and will be winging it with another deck. It looks like many of us share this opinion metadata All I want for Xmas is for those old decent Gaming combos to be on the new Toy cards. That, and Legendary Burgerboss (or Pro-Pain or even X-Cube).

