Ten-year-old trans girl Lily - whose name has been changed to preserve anonymity - says she doesn't understand why some people would not want transgender children to be in the Brownies.

On Wednesday, Girlguiding defended its decision to allow transgender members and leaders, after it expelled two volunteers who objected to the policy.

Lily's mother told the Victoria Derbyshire programme that expelling transgender girls would be suggesting they were a "threat" - which she dismissed.

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