

Jamesy

@teksavvy.com 1 recommendation Jamesy Anon Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue



"managing the network to create an optimal situation for the majority of users," , "We're blind to the content flowing through our pipes," he said. "Our goal is to ensure maximum efficiency for everyone." AND "there has been no backlash from customers, despite the incidents of the past week."



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Here is a picture of his facebook page as of March 29, 2008 1:14PM EST . Note his status, flaunting the fact that he's a liar to the media:







What do you have to say to that, Jason? Spokesperson Jason Laszlo has stated that"managing the network to create an optimal situation for the majority of users," , "We're blind to the content flowing through our pipes," he said. "Our goal is to ensure maximum efficiency for everyone." AND "there has been no backlash from customers, despite the incidents of the past week."Here is a picture of his facebook page as of March 29, 2008 1:14PM EST . Note his status, flaunting the fact that he's a liar to the media:What do you have to say to that, Jason?



mazhurg

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Jamesy

@teksavvy.com Jamesy Anon Do you know of any alternate picture sites that might work for you? I want as many people as possible to see this picture.



mazhurg

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ultracat

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I can see the image. If you guys can't Bell must be throttling your connection to the site haha ; ) I REALLY like that his political beliefs are listed as "very liberal". That must be sarcasm.



Someone should email this image to Matt Hartley who's been writing the Globe and Mail stories on this.



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Think his position will last? I call cannon fodder.



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good photo for rocky to print off and give to the lawyers showing the Bell VP flaunting his position.



Hell give it to the CRTC & Industry Canada as well.

ultracat

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awesome - I just reposted this as a comment on the CBC story he's quoted in and linked back here. Please everyone: EVERY article Laszlo is quoted in that you come across quote him saying this and provide the link back to this thread. I guess Bell's going to need a new spokesperson starting next week.

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said by ultracat:



I can see the image. If you guys can't Bell must be throttling your connection to the site haha ; ) I REALLY like that his political beliefs are listed as "very liberal". That must be sarcasm.



Someone should email this image to Matt Hartley who's been writing the Globe and Mail stories on this.

I can see the image. If you guys can't Bell must be throttling your connection to the site haha ; ) I REALLY like that his political beliefs are listed as "very liberal". That must be sarcasm.Someone should email this image to Matt Hartley who's been writing the Globe and Mail stories on this.



Regarding his political beliefs as "very liberal" ... dont think its sarcasm ... probably 2 things that we may or may not prove at a later point:



1) smoking some good weed/marijuana or snorting the white powder



2) using services of 3rd parties entertainers a la Eliot Spitzer ... client number 1 ?



Maybe some customers can put a message on his face book page so he can correct his misguided views regarding the abscence of backlash .... Lets see how long that page of his stays up.Regarding his political beliefs as "very liberal" ... dont think its sarcasm ... probably 2 things that we may or may not prove at a later point:1) smoking some good weed/marijuana or snorting the white powder2) using services of 3rd parties entertainers a la Eliot Spitzer ... client number 1 ?

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Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page?



Will Pate

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Work Info

Employer: Bell Canada

Position: Associate Director, Media Relations

Location: Toronto, ON

Description: Promote and Protect.



He's got 136 friends, one of whom recently posted on his Facebook wall saying "Ouch. Them's fightin words. SOME journalists - me, for example I humbly submit - can think for themselves. I heard you on CBC radio yesterday... you sounded great."



So yeah, it's really him.



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I'm fairly certain that is a real Facebook profile, I found the guy on Facebook myself and things match up. I'm skeptical that's really him though, he graduated class of '05 and he's already associate director? But the post on his wall from a friend is really there.



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Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page?

Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page? I don't know if it is or not, but wouldn't it be some ground for a lawsuit if it wasn't? like slander and defamation of character is illegal isn't it? So i don't know how it would fly on facebook.

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Jokes aside, I would *really* appreciate if anyone can post links to articles or statements by anyone at Bell that deal with the issue of having to throttle to prevent a few downloaders from messing with the rest of the users.



This is a very critical point to bring to the competition bureau since it gives them lots of meat to chew on with regards to Bell's ads that say that users of DSL can download Videos and Music without impacting other users in the neighbouhood.



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If thats really him, and he posted that...tell me again how Bell didn't know *exactly* what they were doing here?



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said by dontknowifitis :



said by HeadSpinning:



Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page?

Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page?

I don't know if it is or not, but wouldn't it be some ground for a lawsuit if it wasn't? like slander and defamation of character is illegal isn't it? So i don't know how it would fly on facebook. Also note that the account seems to have been there for a while. It does not appear to have been recently created.

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Your recent article on internet traffic management completely missed the point about Bell Canada's decision to interfere with the services it provides to third party DSL wholesalers.



There is no evidence that Bell's decision to throttle service provided to wholesalers has anything to do with preserving capacity on Bell's network. Rather, it's a fairly simple case where Bell has used its position as a monopoly provider of last mile DSL service to prevent any DSL ISP from offering better service than Bell's retail DSL ISP arm (Sympatico) chooses to offer. While there is no evidence of Bell deliberately crippling third party DSL ISPs, the definite *effect* of Bell's policy is to tilt the playing field such that no Bell competitor can offer better service than Sympatico chooses to offer.



Furthermore, Bell's wholesale throttling effects far more than P2P users. There are many reports on the dslreports.com Teksavvy forum[1] of people who have been unable to access work-related electronic resources from home, properly use online banking, use internet telephone services, or play online games, because Bell's throttling system is so badly implemented that it can't distinguish these normal, low-bandwidth, *and incontrovertibly legal* activities from P2P filesharing.



Calling wholesale ISP throttling a mere capacity issue related to P2P traffic completely whitewashes the issues involved. Bell Canada is the only one who benefits from this. Indeed, Bell spokesman Jason Laszlo's appears to be so happy about the way this issue has played out in the media that at 1:14pm on Saturday, Laszlo's facebook status page indicated that he was "realizing how little seperates (sic) most journalists from lemmings." [2]



I strongly urge you to spend some time researching the ultimate effects of Bell's decision to throttle wholesale ISPs--start by reading [1] for a few hours--and write a follow up piece as soon as possible.



Regards,

Coridon Henshaw,

Communications liberties activist,

Ottawa.



[1] »TekSavvy



[2] A screen capture can be found here: »Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue

I just sent the following to Matt Hartley:

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I have to say, I didn't actually go to the Facebook site - I just looked at the image. It just seemed so over the top that it had to be fake. If it IS real, then we know what kind of person we're dealing with.

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His profile is still publically accessible. Those of you who doubt the authenticity of the screen shot, just search Jason Laszlo on facebook and look for yourself. Feel free to leave him a Wall post too : ) One journalist already has.



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The wall post Here's the wall post from a friend about hearing him on the radio.

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I have to say, I didn't actually go to the Facebook site - I just looked at the image. It just seemed so over the top that it had to be fake. If it IS real, then we know what kind of person we're dealing with.

I have to say, I didn't actually go to the Facebook site - I just looked at the image. It just seemed so over the top that it had to be fake. If it IS real, then we know what kind of person we're dealing with. I think it is real, I'm on Facebook and the profile has existed since sometime before January 7th.

HeadSpinning

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I suspect it IS his profile. Nice...



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said by HeadSpinning:



I just searched for his profile, found it, but had to go get a co-worker to log in (I don't keep a Facebook account). By the time she did, he had blocked his profile, and it was no longer searchable.



I suspect it IS his profile. Nice...

I just searched for his profile, found it, but had to go get a co-worker to log in (I don't keep a Facebook account). By the time she did, he had blocked his profile, and it was no longer searchable.I suspect it IS his profile. Nice... You can still view his profile, I suspect your coworker isn't in the Toronto, ON network.



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I kind of (almost) feel for him though. While it is a blatant error to post anything that can be inferred as condescending about his work on a public medium, ultimately, we want bell to undo changes they made that he had nothing to do with... and he may well find his job in jeopardy over this...

I kind of (almost) feel for him though. While it is a blatant error to post anything that can be inferred as condescending about his work on a public medium, ultimately, we want bell to undo changes they made that he had nothing to do with... and he may well find his job in jeopardy over this...



If thats really him, then with the position he holds he should know better. and if it is him he's a dim witted moron for writing what he did and deserves everything that comes with it. Who gives a fuq how you feel or anyone else feels for him.If thats really him, then with the position he holds he should know better. and if it is him he's a dim witted moron for writing what he did and deserves everything that comes with it.

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How ironic it would be if his employer he is defending axes him over this ... hahaha would be a cruel world indeed.



Obviously we probably are taking his quote out of context ... maybe it deals with another issue totally unrelating to this. Would hate to tear him apart from his bread and butter over something that he really didn't have a say in. Sweeney and all those other cronies are targets, this guy is an over-achieving liar but not the guy who owns this mess.



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How ironic it would be if his employer he is defending axes him over this ... hahaha would be a cruel world indeed.



Obviously we probably are taking his quote out of context ... maybe it deals with another issue totally unrelating to this. Would hate to tear him apart from his bread and butter over something that he really didn't have a say in. Sweeney and all those other cronies are targets, this guy is an over-achieving liar but not the guy who owns this mess.

How ironic it would be if his employer he is defending axes him over this ... hahaha would be a cruel world indeed.Obviously we probably are taking his quote out of context ... maybe it deals with another issue totally unrelating to this. Would hate to tear him apart from his bread and butter over something that he really didn't have a say in. Sweeney and all those other cronies are targets, this guy is an over-achieving liar but not the guy who owns this mess. I don't know, but with those 2 other name changes just minutes before the final one with the lemmings comment, i'm pretty sure they all have to do with the same ting. Or maybe he's an over achieving liar with multiple personalities..