

fiosultimate

join:2014-06-09

San Antonio, TX 1 recommendation fiosultimate Member no to merger Just say NO !! We already got sprint-tmobile merger destroyed, now we got one more target....

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks Member Re: no to merger Sprint-TMO USA was to eliminate an option. This does NOT eliminate any choices. Give it up with that already.



ev

@74.140.91.x ev Anon Re: no to merger Fark Charter



Kasich should round up some buddies up to help buy all of Ohio's TWC plant and turn it into a member owned cooperative.



We The People of Ohio shouldn't have to wait 2-3 MORE years for this deal to go through to get GigE broadbands.



Fldave

@210.13.74.x Fldave Anon Re: no to merger Because govt ownership fixes everything. I mean, look at the USPS...oh, wait...

stewie3128

join:2008-11-20 stewie3128 Member Re: no to merger Congress has *intentionally wrecked* the USPS financially by requiring it to pre-fund its retirement liabilities by 75 years.



USPS is a perfect example of the worst of both worlds: congress running a private business. Congress sucks at doing anything. Let it be a private business, or let it be a fully government-run entity like any other department or agency.



ev

@74.140.91.x ev to Fldave

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Yeah, don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good drive-by teabagging, Dave.



77 of Ohio's 88 counties use member-owned electricity co-ops. What a failed experiment that is, right?



Furthermore, Columbus Division Of Power is highly price competitive with AEP. And Columbus ALWAYS seems to have service restored FASTER after major storms versus AEP as well. Wonder why that is...?

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks to ev

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Kasich isn't going to spend money on a Muni that isn't worth anything. Co-Ops are NOT funded by buddies and public money. They around founded by private money in the areas that people want to own a Co-op you are free to do so in any part of Ohio.



And We the People do not need Gig-E to live. Give it up already.



ev

@74.140.91.x ev Anon Re: no to merger GigE isn't worth anything...? That's a boldly idiotic statement. So brave, you are.



MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11

Cherry Hill, NJ ·Verizon FiOS

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If you think having one cable operator with that big of a customer base and that much control of the market isn't bad for the consumer your very naive. It's a bigger question than how many choices an individual customer has. and note that in many areas in the country the reasonable number of choices is 1, cable.

They don't want to support dsl anymore, in many markets they are simply letting cable take all of the customers because telco's don't want to pay to upgrade, satellite and LTE have very low caps and are only last resort options.

When you realise that internet is looking more and more like a monopoly in a larger and larger percentage of america the effects of this merger become very apparent.



mixdup

join:2003-06-28

Atlanta, GA 12.8 1.0

mixdup Member Other options There are other options...



First off, a significant portion of BHN's systems are close to Charter systems (except for Central Florida where they're next to Comcast). Charter will also be doing "management functions" for SpinCo, so they'll be in a position to offer those services to BHN as well. Plus, if the Newhouse family want to sell, Charter is obviously a very willing buyer.



At any rate, I can't imagine that Comcast didn't think about this before jumping in with both feet.



SNT

Premium Member

join:2002-07-17

Satellite Beach, FL SNT Premium Member Re: Other options The only other option I have is U-Verse....no thanks.



mixdup

join:2003-06-28

Atlanta, GA 12.8 1.0

mixdup Member Re: Other options said by SNT: The only other option I have is U-Verse....no thanks. I meant there are other options for BHN/Comcast.

AVonGauss

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join:2007-11-01

Boynton Beach, FL AVonGauss to SNT

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Whether Comcast and TWC merge or don't will not change that, unfortunately.

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks Member Re: Other options And nothing changes regardless. No less no more to choose from. So what's the big deal?

AVonGauss

Premium Member

join:2007-11-01

Boynton Beach, FL AVonGauss Premium Member Re: Other options The poster wanted another choice, and more choices is generally a good thing.

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks Member Re: Other options And he has another choice- U-Verse. DirecTV, Dish Network. Those are choices. If he's not happy with them, then he's free to move, or create a real co-op not using muni funding.



SNT

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join:2002-07-17

Satellite Beach, FL SNT to mixdup

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I still wish I had other options. Sorry, I misunderstood.I still wish I had other options.

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks Member Re: Other options You have options, you choose not to use them.



SNT

Premium Member

join:2002-07-17

Satellite Beach, FL SNT Premium Member Re: Other options Enlighten me. I would love to know what they are.

Keep in mind, I already have DirecTV so I am only referring to internet.

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks Member Re: Other options U-Verse, DirecTV, Dish Network, resellers/VARs of any MSO. The list goes on.



And your can blame BHN and their employees for covering up the fact that TWC owns part of that company and could have ended this agreement months and years ago and BHN would still be in the same boat they are today. So why cry about it? Tell BHN and Newhouse family to get actually become a real MSO instead of one that is basically reselling services in another area. In reality they are just a TWC Partner like Sprint had.



SNT

Premium Member

join:2002-07-17

Satellite Beach, FL SNT Premium Member Re: Other options I'm going to leave it here as reading comprehension is obviously an issue.

Also, just because something may be available, it doesn't mean that it is an option.

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22

Des Plaines, IL Joe12345678 to mixdup

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BHN has WAY MORE HD then comcast or even TWC as well all the team HD and game HD.



BTN alts in HD (in an out of market area to boot as well)



SEC Network Overflow HD



EPL Extra Time HD 1-5



ESPN Goal Line/Buzzer Beater/Bases Loaded HD



way more Premium HD

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks to mixdup

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Time to tell the Newhouse family and everyone that's a customer look for prices to go up. Newhouse got a deal that they knew could end at any time.



tshirt

Premium Member

join:2004-07-11

Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Everyone complains... ...that their cableco LACKS adequate leverage when buying content is causing higher prices. Yet hates having 1 really large company/consortium with the power to exert some control.



having Comcast provide engineering and plant standardization to even a larger group would be a great thing towards making "one network, to serve them all" ubiquitous broadband so many here would hope to see sooner rather than later.

But it would be up to bright house to decide who the should buy those services from in the future.





biochemistry

Premium Member

join:2003-05-09

92361 biochemistry Premium Member Re: Everyone complains... I don't recall anyone complaining about inadequate leverage nor would a larger Comcast solve that problem.



tshirt

Premium Member

join:2004-07-11

Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Re: Everyone complains... said by biochemistry: I don't recall anyone complaining about inadequate leverage nor would a larger Comcast solve that problem.



a larger, standardized, advanced services, plant is in everyone's interest, be it a single carrier or fifty (but fifty is a hard to manage number of variations and unlikely to be well-coordinated. ) it doesn't HAVE to be Comcast however they seems to be in the leadership role on the network technology, planning and implementation end as well as being able to attract investors AND then investing TODAY (not spending another couple years, figuring where to redline the next (maybe) google fiber build too.) and new enthusiastic investment is what is need to drive new growth. not today, but remember all the threads when Dish or some other CATV provider did a blackout? THEN people wanted their CATV provider to make a stand, and the little guy (a few million subs) ended up caving to the content makers, bigger guys got a better deal.a larger, standardized, advanced services, plant is in everyone's interest, be it a single carrier or fifty (but fifty is a hard to manage number of variations and unlikely to be well-coordinated. ) it doesn't HAVE to be Comcast however they seems to be in the leadership role on the network technology, planning and implementation end as well as being able to attract investors AND then investing TODAY (not spending another couple years, figuring where to redline the next (maybe) google fiber build too.) and new enthusiastic investment is what is need to drive new growth.

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks Member Re: Everyone complains... Dish and DirecTV do it all the time. Hell even TWC did it for several months. People bitched bitched and bitched, and moved to other choices, but yet will still bitch when prices go up. You just can't please most of the public.



But yet- Google will never be a full national player let alone regional, they'll be a "local" service that sells off soon to another company. Maybe Paxio would be interested or Grande Communications.

AVonGauss

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join:2007-11-01

Boynton Beach, FL AVonGauss to tshirt

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In fairness, Comcast is probably already at a large enough size to drive negotiations - unlike TWC and their infamous programming spats.



tshirt

Premium Member

join:2004-07-11

Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Re: Everyone complains... said by AVonGauss: ....Comcast is probably already at a large enough size to drive negotiations - ... yes, but the TWC customers would NOW be covered

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

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TWC could have that power if customers didn't leave for Dish/DirecTV and other choices and stood behind their MSO or other provider during the negotiations. Instead the customers complain and leave. What do you expect TWC to do???

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And one standard is what people want. Everyone on here wants faster broadband and cheaper prices. if Comcast is willing to do that and allow Newhouse to manage BHN still - as it works now- what's the problem? It would be similar to the Muni FTTH network that this site calls for on a daily basis.



chip89

Premium Member

join:2012-07-05

Columbia Station, OH chip89 Premium Member I've used BNH once I've only used BNH once but it's the same as TWC down to the boxes they have.

AVonGauss

Premium Member

join:2007-11-01

Boynton Beach, FL 1 edit AVonGauss Premium Member The whole "size" argument... People seem to like to focus on the size of Comcast post a TWC merger, which seems rather silly to me. One large company is far easier to manage (regulate) than a bunch of smaller independent companies. If I were part of the review group, I'd be much more interested in business practices like required equipment rentals, full service (D3, Internet) in all systems, usage limits / overcharges than overall territory size. While not a given, I still the whole idea of "SpinCo" is terrible and ultimately bad for customers.



All that said, I'm not a TWC customer and its their opinion that should weigh heavier in any discussion.



Edit: Added full service above.



CAA1000

@71.47.122.x CAA1000 Anon Feeling betrayed by Bright House! Paying more for less? So, I heard a lot about Bright House lousy services that are provided by Time Warner Cable and to make matters worse, since early this 2014 when word came out of the Comcast merger with TWC, they never mentioned Bright House partnerships with the ownership of Conde Nast Magazine, for fear that the FCC would say NO to the merger. Now that this piece of information is coming out to light, will see if the FCC will still continue with the merger plans, or will simply say NO DEAL. Other options are, to return the full ownership to the Conde Nast Magazine owners and most likely, pay a higher bill for services that we don't even get or need. PS, my internet speed is UNRELIABLE. I pay for 30 MBPS and the speed test goes to 5 MBPS at times. Why? Explain it like a 5 year old (Reddit is also owned by Conde Nast Magazine ownership!).

ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20

Cleveland, OH ITGeeks Member Re: Feeling betrayed by Bright House! Paying more for less? Most knew this was going to come down to it. TWC or Newhouse could have ended this deal at any time. Just now its coming to light more and more. If BHN was upfront and more honest in who actually owns their company customers wouldn't be left out in the dark. Instead they have managers and "directors" that deny anything to do with TWC, and yet their own staff that loves to claim they know what's going on- denies it as well. Yet TWC's SEC fillings ALWAYS showed that they own 20% of BHN and have from get go.



graycorgi

Premium Member

join:2004-02-23 graycorgi Premium Member Foreign investor We just need a French company to come in with an offer for TWC, like what happened with T-Mobile.

smcallah

join:2004-08-05

Home smcallah Member Huh? 32 million customers is 101 million homes? How does that work?



I didn't realize that many Americans owned 3 houses. I only have 1.



mackey

Premium Member

join:2007-08-20 0.9 2.0

mackey Premium Member Re: Huh? said by smcallah: 32 million customers is 101 million homes? How does that work?

Number Comcast would be negotiating for = 32M

32 of 101 is approx 32%.



/M Total market size = 101MNumber Comcast would be negotiating for = 32M32 of 101 is approx 32%./M

BiggA

Premium Member

join:2005-11-23

Central CT BiggA Premium Member Why the magic 30% It's like someone pulled a number out of their butt. Where they are a monopoly, they will still be a monopoly. Spinning off some of the less desirable and less competitive markets into spinco doesn't do anything for anyone.



paradigmfl

join:2005-07-16 paradigmfl Member Prices are already sky high at Bright House It's hard to see how the prices could go up much more. I already pay $62 a month (including $4 for the modem rental) just for 10/1 internet.



IowaMan

Premium Member

join:2008-08-21

Grinnell, IA IowaMan Premium Member Re: Prices are already sky high at Bright House Why... I buy my own modem and save $



paradigmfl

join:2005-07-16 paradigmfl Member Re: Prices are already sky high at Bright House Central Florida is the lightning capital of the world. I already lost one modem this year. Also if I switch to DSL soon then I wasted my money.