READER COMMENTS ON

"SOMETHING SMELLS VERY FISHY IN ALASKA"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 11/6/2008 @ 1:52 pm PT...





Excellent article - thank you Shannyn Moore. I smell rotten peach pits in GA. Has anyone found an in-depth article for GA like this one? I'm searching but not finding. I look at Karen C. Handel, GA SoS in much the same way as Kenneth Blackwell former OH SoS. I want her investigated.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 11/6/2008 @ 2:08 pm PT...





Hell, I lived up there for 15 years and that's some of the biggest back scratchin I've ever seen. And then there's this: http://english.aljazeera...2008115212259449905.html So where does the rest of the Arab world stand on this one? Will someone not find this courageous man a home??????

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 11/6/2008 @ 2:17 pm PT...





And where the hell does the rest of the family stand?

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Kelly said on 11/6/2008 @ 2:21 pm PT...





Brad Friedman!!! What are we to do? What can Alaskans do? Demand to observe the absentee ballot counts? Thanks for the great work Shannyn!

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 11/6/2008 @ 2:25 pm PT...





Hey 99, what happened to the article button on the sidebar?

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 11/6/2008 @ 2:34 pm PT...





See what I mean re: GA stinkin' Peach Pits AJC - More Georgians voted, but not as many as projected 66.9 percent cast ballots, up from 66.3 percent in 2004 Now, we all know this impossible, right?

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 11/6/2008 @ 2:40 pm PT...





What do you mean "article button"?

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:02 pm PT...





The button above archives. Thanks.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:07 pm PT...





Well, the server has been pitching purple polka-dotted hissies for the last couple weeks and it may have been lost in a crash, or Brad is working on it, or it was found to be slowing up the works even more than everything else, or the "Featured Stories" box was deemed to be enough.... In short, I don't know. I'll mention it to Brad.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Sue Deaunym said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:19 pm PT...





Now, here in Jawja, the election results came very close to the polling percentages, suggesting no major manipulation that might have skewed results. Still, the runoff of Martin and Chambliss will require severe scrutiny and vigilance, especially having a Handel on the machines.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:28 pm PT...





Again thanks 99, BTW DN was outstanding today! http://www.democracynow....ect_obama_and_the_future

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... mick said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:34 pm PT...





Smells "Moosey" ?

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Jeannie Dean (not in) FL-13 said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:38 pm PT...





Great work, Shannyn. I'm very glad to see you've referenced the anomalous NH Primary election in your excellent article. I was in NH for the disastrous recount, assisting BlackBoxVoting.org in their ground-breaking ballot chain of custody investigation. You might want to look into what we found there, as it seems like the same exact same pattern of fraud you are reporting from Alaska. We found: 1. The Diebold OP SCAN machines had a failure rate 163 times greater than allowed by H.A.V.A. federal standards

2. More votes than voters (inflated vote totals)

3. More voters than votes, in some cases, directly in proportion/ corresponding to the wards where the machines had mysteriously inflated vote totals

4. The resulting "chain of custody" ballot investigation directly reflected these anomalies/ we saw some VERY unsettling events while tracking. I spent 2 months putting together the following video to sum up the investigation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYz9O_SvIJI

"NH RECOUNT/ Manchester Ward 5: INFLATED VOTE TOTALS" All of the sources and info in this video are dead accurate/ thoroughly vetted by BBV and assisting expert statisticians. (Bradbloggers, if you haven't seen this and other videos BBV produced re the NH Primary Election disaster, please watch the above video. I believe what we saw is critical to understanding the problems in Alaska Shannyn is detailing above. Also sheds some light on just how massive this victory for Obama really is, as some of us believe there was a massive hack attempt to manipulate the primaries/ secure the Dem nomination for Hillary. This might explain why they cemented the odd choice of PALIN as VP --who they would have LOVED to see take on Hillary in the general election. Their old script re: 'christian base turnout'/ and 'visceral Hillary haters' just might've worked!) You might want to give Bev a shout, if you haven't already, as her data might put you leaps and bounds ahead in your research, give you the timely edge needed. Also, Karen from Illinois, a regular poster here, has all the numbers on file and some VERY intriguing theories on how this was successfully achieved. Keep up the great work, and please continue to keep us in the loop with what you discover.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Jeannie Dean (not in) FL-13 said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:46 pm PT...





(Note to Kira: I think GA is funky, too/ not as shored up on the info as you--but I sure do dig on your posts and links!)

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... CharlieL said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:57 pm PT...





GA numbers are down because of their "poll tax" ID requirements. This was expected. This can only be countered by a national program of assistance to get the lower-income and elderly their ID's. Hopefully, Obama will work to get a National Holiday for ELection Day and Paper Ballots For ALL. I would even be willing to trade a requirement of State ID in exchange for same-day registration (with said ID), knowing we could invest our money in getting those who need them the IDs. C

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:58 pm PT...





Same thing in Florida, record registrations, less voters than '04

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... Pat said on 11/6/2008 @ 3:59 pm PT...





Thanks very much for posting about the irregularities in Alaska. I have just finished reading mudflats.wordpress.com, and the latest subject asks about the big difference in vote numbers reported vs voters registered/turnout. There is also a discrepancy between votes and poll results for the top three races: President, Senate and House of Representatives.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 11/6/2008 @ 4:27 pm PT...





Hey EI folks, send your Obama Christmas to do list here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27562795

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Jeannie Dean (not in) FL-13 said on 11/6/2008 @ 4:27 pm PT...





Flo!~I think we successfully counter-hacked in Florida, don't you? I can't wait to see the numbers re: voters purged/ provisional voters vs. Obama margin of victory. Throw in all the voters turned away or leaving re: massive break down of the DIEBOLD OP SCANS reported in over 10 counties throughout the southwest part of the state-- I think the work done by Election Intergrity folk (yes, that's YOU fine people) and GRACIOUS THANKS to the due diligence of Dan McCrae and Pam Haengel with the Florida Voters Coalition/ Voters Action tenaciously chip-chip-chipping away at Browning's unconstitutional "no match no vote" law; eroding it in steady waves, municipality by municipality. I think we really might've turned FLORIDA BLUE in spite, de spite, and in light of the manipulation. What say you?...

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Ancient said on 11/6/2008 @ 5:06 pm PT...





Hey Jeannie Dean, you and Bev and EVERYBODY over there are ANGELS! Maybe someday I'll get to THANK YOU sufficiently.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... MarkH said on 11/6/2008 @ 5:56 pm PT...





If it looks like a moose and if it smells like a moose and if it craps like a moose then it must be Alaska, Florida or West Virginia. Go get 'em Brad!

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... Batocchio said on 11/6/2008 @ 7:07 pm PT...





Crazy stuff.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... Mugzi said on 11/6/2008 @ 7:20 pm PT...





We need some sort of organization to bombard our congressmen to repeal/amend HAVA. We need to get rid of machines in our election process. Paper ballots with pencil and oversight of counters by both/all parties. Canada does this and they have the results by 11pm. With this new administration, it would be the perfect time to get our election process on the right track without machines.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 11/6/2008 @ 8:30 pm PT...





Is GA SoS Karen Handel a Heartless B*tch? Fulton, still counting ballots, may have violated law - On Election Day, county election workers began arriving at 5:30 a.m. They were sent home around 3:30 a.m. Wednesday, county election officials said. Four hours later, they returned and resumed counting. ...Handel spokesman Matt Carrothers could not be reached for comment late Wednesday night, but Handel told Fox 5 News that the nearly 90 county election workers were told to remain at the northwest Atlanta location until they finished Tuesday night’s work. “We’ll take this up with the [Georgia] Election Commission,” she said.

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... Mark said on 11/6/2008 @ 9:00 pm PT...





Ummm....Thats right sheeple. There is voting fraud in America. The NWO wanted Obama in office.

Diebold is criminal, time and time again these machines have proven very hackable and they flip votes.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... bornalaskan said on 11/6/2008 @ 9:37 pm PT...





alaskan's don't vote because let's face it the president who is elected is voted into office before alaskan polls are even closed.

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... GWN said on 11/6/2008 @ 10:03 pm PT...





#25 Mark, that would be "election fraud", as Brad would say the "voters" are doing just fine. No voter fraud other than Ann Coulter and maybe Santorum.



Santorum (I can't see the preview anymore?)

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... Antxon said on 11/6/2008 @ 10:27 pm PT...





I realy dont understand what is the all the fuz about it. We all know that all the elctions are fix, come on,it is a no brainer, tell me the last time you saw an honest election and i tell you the last time we see a martian walking on the streets. It is all a rack, and you know it, they know it everyone knnows it. It is like "the goverment is of the people, for the people and to the people, lolololol, Please, spend you time in something we dont know. 2 party goverment system, what do you expect?. Listen you can ask an apple tree to give you peaches, you can pray all you want, to any God you want, but an apple tree AINT going to give you peaches, period. So in a 2 party goverment system dont even ask for honest elections, AINT going to happend.

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... LOKI said on 11/6/2008 @ 10:44 pm PT...





The road to my voting place in Ketchikan was actually road blocked, "due to construction", and today its miraculously all clear. This may be a coincidence, but how many "coincidences" are there around the country. All it takes is to discourage one or two percent and the outcome can change. There was a lot of enthusiasm to vote this year, I really can't believe its a time zone thing. Why this year and not last? People know how important the congressional races are. How could one resist to vote down a felon or who in their right mind would vote for a felon? ,LOKI

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... kyle said on 11/6/2008 @ 11:18 pm PT...





Hmmm ... interesting analysis. I like the smell of fish ... perhaps even more than fish do. I am wondering when the last (mostly) honest election was held. My best guess is 1952. Any election is on a gradation of the honesty / dishonesty dichotomy. Does anyone here have any ideas on how to have a mostly (99% and up) honest election? kyle lorden

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... Andrew Stergiou said on 11/6/2008 @ 11:47 pm PT...





Having lived a short while in Fairbanks I do not find your data provided far fetched in its suggestion that there was some serious hanky panky which occurred in Alaska because of Sarah Palin supporters. Alaska is a corrupt and entrentched incorrigible retro throwback culture where there should be a federal investigation into the strong possibility that the results of the election were manipulated as a made to order action instigated by Sarah Palin extremists. I met some very mice people in Alasak but Sarah Palin represents the worst and most ignorant of the rednecks up there in a state that buys off its population with crumbs tossed to them from the oil revenues used to payoff the whole state.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... Rhonda said on 11/6/2008 @ 11:55 pm PT...





Of course I care!!! I'm very happy Americans turned out in large enough numbers to prevent another stolen presidential election, but this fraud has got to stop. I can't believe the will of the people means so little to the party (GOP) who claims to have a mandate on patriotism and Christianity. Vote suppression is nothing less than treason. Keep up the good fight and good luck in cleaning up the filth in Alaska and other states. A change is coming...

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... Kira said on 11/7/2008 @ 12:01 am PT...





More about that Diebold stinker in GA: 11/6/08 11:42pm AJC - Ballot-counting marathon stretches in Fulton Shortly before midnight, officials said they were working to scan the last of about 31,000 absentee ballots, and had begun counting about 2,000 provisional ballots. ...On Thursday at the tabulation warehouse, a sign warned that the area where workers counted ballots was “restricted,” but there was no security to ensure the dozens of people coming and going were authorized to be in the counting area. Article linked above has more info on the total meltdown caused by the Machines, and SoS Handel's threat to report the county’s election operation to the state Election Board. Oh what a tangled web we weave ...

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... Miguel said on 11/7/2008 @ 12:41 am PT...





[ed note: Comment deleted. Disinformation. --99]

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... Marc said on 11/7/2008 @ 12:53 am PT...





And Barak Obama's $63 million in illegal foreign campaign contributions smell "rosey?"

What nonsense. Democrats reserve the sacred right

to cheat in elections for themselves. If they suspect that the GOP might be doing it, they are outraged...because they hate competition.

If there was election fraud in Alaska, let us see the faithful Democrat lawyers bring a case to trial. If they do not, it shows that this is just more hysteria.

And why do voting machines only fail when Democrats lose? When they win, those machines work just fine, chads or no chads!

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... Edie said on 11/7/2008 @ 12:54 am PT...





I think all of you need to get a life. Did you ever think Just Maybe Alaska wanted to keep Sarah Palin as their Governor. I think she is a wonderful person and a REAL PERSON. GET OFF HER BACK AND GROW UP.

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]

... J Phillips said on 11/7/2008 @ 1:26 am PT...





I could be mistaken, but didn't McCain concede the election before the polls even closed in Alaska? That'd probably keep me from continuing to stand in line. Just my opinion, of course, but even with "freedom of the press" I think it is wrong to broadcast ANY election returns until ALL polls are closed in ALL states.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... JoJames said on 11/7/2008 @ 2:11 am PT...





Why are you Americans so jealous? Go out and do something yourself if you don't like it. Stop complaining and calling people names "rednecks, etc"

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]

... America True Voice said on 11/7/2008 @ 2:17 am PT...





This is disgusting! What are you trying to smoke here? You are a moron.

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]

... majordomo said on 11/7/2008 @ 2:28 am PT...





[ed note: This commenter has been banned. --99]

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]

... the zapkitty said on 11/7/2008 @ 2:39 am PT...





... majordomo said... "Go to websites like ...." Ah, the return of press agent for the "open-source" evm... which is just as unverifiable, just as faith-based as a proprietary-source evm. *sigh*

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 11/7/2008 @ 4:25 am PT...





Is "Rinse" (out mouth, ptooey) linked to this or what?

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 11/7/2008 @ 5:54 am PT...





Wilburrr... I think I'm going to miss Jethro Bodine with a vagina she was enterrrrtaining.

BTW ~ Wil ya think she gets to keep the undies ...

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]

... the zapkitty said on 11/7/2008 @ 6:09 am PT...





... Floridiot said on... "Is "Rinse" (out mouth, ptooey) linked to this or what?" In spirit, perchance, but otherwise just seems to be someone who figured out with the rest of us that proprietary software in public voting was and is by itself a disaster for the voter. Unfortunately they then locked on to the open source concept as the solution to all e-voting problems and... froze in mid-step. Never completed the logical analysis as it evolved and most other folks realized that e-voting itself had insurmountable built-in flaws. And then this person was persistent enough in his approaches to engage in deceptive ploys here using multiple screen names... and you can guess what happened when he ignored the warnings about that behavior.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]

... Jeremy said on 11/7/2008 @ 8:44 am PT...





Look at the difference between the "red states" and "blue states". In general, McCain won by huge margins, Obama's wins were much tighter. There have been problems with the voting machines and optical scanners everywhere, skewing races toward both parties. Election fraud is rampant throughout our country. We need an overhaul, but it's a local issue. Everyone needs to take some initiative and change things at your local level.

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]

... johnny p said on 11/7/2008 @ 9:49 am PT...





could we all agree to start "operation occupy" . I am not an experienced organizer , but I think If hundreds of thousands of us began to occupy the local offices of their senators and representatives demanding an end to electronic voting and replacing it with handcounted paper ballots we could maybe get them to listen and move on this. With an overwhelming Democratic majority in january and a

democratic president national legislation could be passed .....if we put enough pressure on them.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 11/7/2008 @ 7:46 pm PT...





99: Don't cha know what an article button is? Sheesh!!! What the hell's duh matter wit cha???

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 11/7/2008 @ 7:59 pm PT...





How about: Obama in 2008 had virtually the same vote count as Bush in 2004 (nationwide)! There were a record # of Democratic registrations in 2008 because of the extended Hillary/Obama primary, too! Maybe it's not so much a low 2008 count in both cases, but you're further proving the stolen 2004 election, too. The count was way too high in 2004. Are we assuming the 2004 counts were accurate when we're comparing them? Personally, I think the 2004 AND the 2008 counts aren't to be trusted. That would mean, we aren't concerned that there were problems with the 2004 counts. Wasn't Alaska the state where they were fighting to suppress vote information in 2004? Or was it 2006? Does anyone believe that George Bush got 62 million votes in 2004 and Obama got 63 million votes in 2008? Does anyone believe Kerry got 59 million votes in 2004 and Obama got 63 million in 2008? Somehow, I just don't believe those numbers. They're hard to believe. How about this one: Bush in 2004 got 62 million, and McCain/Palin got 55 million. So, Bush got 7 million more votes than McCain/Palin??? Somehow, that just doesn't seem right (to me). Also, 3-4 million total less votes in the 2008 Obama/McCain race than the 2004 Bush/Kerry race? After a record new amount of registrations? Gee, that's hard to believe, isn't it???

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]

... Mimzy said on 11/7/2008 @ 8:22 pm PT...





I think one could figure out if there was election fraud with the "turn out" facts presented here. Election boards check off whether or not someone voted. They keep this record in there voter registration books. (they check your name off in someway when they hand you a ballot, so they know not to give you another so you don't vote twice.) Check this count. If it matches the number of votes cast then it verifies this voter turn out question. ...BUT these records might have been rigged with also, you might say... Well, then a party should randomly audit this record. (have a party contact a significant random sample of voters that were and were not checked to have voted in this election, to survey if they say they did or did not.) - no invasion of privacy and can be easily done. What do you think?

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]

... Hank said on 11/7/2008 @ 8:28 pm PT...





You are pretty well the only nation in the world that uses these E-lectronic vote manipulators. Why don't you get rid of them? There isn't any need for them and it is a rediculous waste of money. GET RID OF THEM AND USE PAPER BALLOTS!

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 11/7/2008 @ 8:30 pm PT...





What if it more so leads to the conclusion that the 2004 votes were over inflated? I'm just sayin'... To ME, it seems that the Obama/McCain/Palin was a wildly more popular election than Bush/Kerry, and thre were millions of more votes in the Bush/Kerry election??? No way!

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]

... Phil said on 11/7/2008 @ 10:57 pm PT...

