Every other week, executive producer Betsy Beers goes behind the scenes of Grey’s Anatomy, Scandal and The Catch in her podcast, Shondaland Revealed — and EW has an exclusive first listen of the latest episode.

This week, Beers catches up with Scandal star Guillermo Díaz, who personally wants his character Huck and Quinn (Katie Lowes) to end up together. In truth, Díaz holds out hope that Huck will find real love someday, even though he seems to have a huge blind spot when it comes to women. The actor also discusses how Huck is back to being the voice of reason when it comes to paranoia about Rowan’s motives.