While discussing President-elect Donald Trump’s Twitter habits and general avoidance of speaking to the media, CNN anchor Don Lemon took both the media and Trump to task.

Speaking to the Washington Examiner’s David Drucker, Lemon highlighted the fact that the incoming POTUS has not held a press conference since late July. Instead, as the CNN host noted, he goes around the media now by using Twitter, which Drucker described as him holding a “daily tweet conference.”

After Drucker pointed out that Trump may feel he can get away with not speaking to the press because voters generally don’t trust the media and will let him get away with it, Lemon jumped in with an observation.

“Can I say something,” the anchor stated. “That’s the whole point. That’s the strategy. He can’t sit down with the media because then he legitimizes the media which he rallies or rails so much against.”

Following more conversation about the responsibility of the media in the Age of Trump and how there’s also a large percentage of Americans expecting the press to hold Trump’s feet to the fire, Lemon added that the soon-to-be president still needs the media more than they need him. He then offered a suggestion for those running media outlets.

“Listen, I’m not a news executive,” Lemon remarked. “But if I were, I would say I would not cover his tweets.”

Co-host Poppy Harlow said she disagreed with Lemon while Drucker concurred with him. Lemon then expanded on his thought, explaining that if you ignore Trump’s tweets and not treat them as gospel as a news outlet, you then force him to hold a press conference and engage with the press.

Watch the entire exchange above, via CNN.

CORRECTION 12:35 PM ET: The article originally stated Alisyn Camerota was the co-host of the segment. It was actually Poppy Harlow.

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