"I never said it was worthless. Clearly it lends a great deal of meaning to the lives of individuals who have nothing better to do with their time than evangelize a bloated pile of absolutely mindless overhead. I like Ruby as a scripting language, Rails suffers from a great many problems, most of which can be traced back to the delusional nature of its maintainers and fanatical supporters who reflexively regurgitate the same tired old rhetoric over and over again without having the foggiest idea what they're talking about.



How about this: name a large Rails application that YOU have worked on personally and describe how YOU yourself met the challenges of its deficiencies. You'll get bonus points if you can figure out how to quote a message on an internet forum--something a serious web developer whose opinions are of great import should have no trouble with at all."



I would quote if I could. The arcane rules on these forums only let you use VBCode features such as quoting and links after 5 or more posts.



I can see there is no real point in arguing with you though. Your opinion cannot be changed or even challenged because apparently you've taken something about Ruby on Rails as a personal insult. Instead of discussing it rationally and pointing out examples of actual problems, you're content to call the maintainers delusional and sum it's problems up in the phrase `bloated pile of absolutely mindless overhead`.



I'll concede that I haven't worked on any large Ruby on Rails projects but the fact that such projects at least exist says that it's something of a viable platform. I have written a few small projects in it such as a message board and I certainly didn't find it to be a complete farce.



My real question is why are you so hostile towards Ruby on Rails? It is, after all, just a application framework.