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"Drake met weeknd when weeknd was working at the American Apparel on Yonge street..this was during drakes mix tape days, they hung out alot in hookah/shiishaa bars in Toronto. anyhow, drake kept his word and put on weeknd and his boys onnce he got established, but weeknd got into that "industry" life and got introduced to coke, drake dabbles in coke too...but now weeknd is a full in addict.coke, scrips,lean anything..he claims it helps him write all those depressing ass songs everyone loves..the label issue is just one layer in the ****ery..."



"Anywho, the combination of **** he's on is making him highly paranoid, he rarely does interviews, promos, ect...that's another reason why drake is pissed, he feels the weeknd isn't capitalizing off his momentum, the kid fires his assistant every other week because he's so paranoid"



"Weeknd NEVER did drugs initially. It was a music gimmick. He did it for people to think it was artsy fartsy eclectic music. He does drugs now. He is strung out as sh*t. Now as far as the white women girl HE DONT LIKE WOMEN PERIOD. There is an African man named Hassan that I met and he lived with Abel in downtown Toronto. Hassan doubles as a ******. I used to see him at Kensington Market buying dresses and wigs and what not. Abel doesnt even have a legit crew. There are a few ****** he grew up with that use him for his money. Some Somolian guy named Stix. And a Jamaican dude named Lamar. They use his likeness to get girls, get money and get on. Im not sure if they know he is gay but they dont respect him. AT ALL. All they want is his money, It is a come up to them. Abels cousins dont even speak to him they think he ashamed our "people" and that hes strange. There is a girl, who people call a madam/pimp. Her name is Mona. She sets these dudes up with females all the time. And Abel never wants one. He usually zones out and passes out before the party can begin. It led people to believe he was suspect. Brandon Jennings stays tryna be friends with Weeknd. He keeps saying he wants to play in Toronto and trying to mingle with Weeknd or his friends. I wonder why!!"



"Well "his crew" take him for a joke well known facts. And I have no issues with n*ggas preferences specially no Weeknd. I spit facts. Ho business is my business, I know these dudes and they think hes flaming and a lame. Far as Lamar that dude clowns him to every chick he smashes. And dont get me started on Stix."



"Abel loves bony ass drugged out looking white chicks with stringy blonde hair. We were shooting the **** one day and just people watching. All the girls that walked by that he said he would smash looked like what I just described.



I didn't know him before the fame so I don't know if he was doing drugs then but he is damn sure strung out now. I had to deny him a ride home because I was 100% positive he had drugs on him and it would be just my luck to get stop by a cop or something."



I'm a Weeknd fan by the way, I just wanted to see if this was true or not.





"I saw a lot of this **** and literally laughed out loud. My name is Nina M Pate and I was born and raised in Scarborough. I used to chill with Abel Tesfaye through mutual friends a lot and I created this **** just so I can clear all this **** up.





(UPDATED REPLY FROM ONE OF ABEL'S OLD FRIENDS TO THIS THREAD)



First, Drake and Abel did not ever chill back in Drake's mixtape days, Drake's OVO member Oliver showed Abel to him through his Youtube.



Also Abel has always been a "troubled kid." From what I saw he struggled with self-esteem and self-placement for a long time. I dropped out not too far into school so I can't speak much about that only what I remember. Anyways, we had a **** load of mutual friends surprisingly I guess and chilled by circumstance. From what I seen, before he was even put on for music in general like not even The Noise or nothing I know he smoked weed, we all did. My older brother was a well known chemist/dealer and not too far down along the timeline him and a few others started asking for **** from party drugs like Roxies and X to wanting to try coke. Not too long after graduation or maybe even before he was smoking weed daily and a pack a day. Yes, he began to change a lot but I don't think it was for image... to be personally it just looked like he didin't give a ****. He went to AA eventually I guess tryna get some help (a lot of help that did) and there he met Nev (who's now a director or some ****). Now I don't know who the Hell came up with this outlandish idea, but Nev was never a "pimp" setting up dudes with chicks. She was just a real lesbian and a mad cool one at that.



Hassan never doubled as anything either. That's the dumbest **** I've heard... Yes, he's gay but for anyone who doesn't know, Abel is as far from judgemental as possible. And Haz wasn't even FLAMING gay like he knew how to stay chill he was a real laid back kinda dude. I guess Haz offered to pay for most of the rent or some **** cause he had money and was a good friend and like anyone practically living on the streets would Abel took the offer (**** I would.) I used to chill with this kid named Tim who knew Haz when we went over a couple of times their wasn't one thing that would lead to a single thought of an intimate relationship smh.



And about girls, he's always loved white chicks. ALWAYS. I can recall laughing, back for the short time I went to school, and at parties cause him and his friends stayed tryna hit on chicks left and right but back then none they asses was getting none (off the record it's amazing what drug abuse, a beard, and grown out hair will do to sex appeal... in a positive way lol.)



Anyways, about his homies tryna hook him up and him rejecting girls, he wasn't ... at least back then... an **** and used to have respect for them AND himself. He was a real reclused dude and didn't wan't his business out like that. There was so much pillow talk back then and I'm sure ain't **** changed in the passed couple years.



One thing I do kind of agree on is the crew thing... it seems like some of em (not naming anyone) kind of came out of no where. But Abel and Lamar go way back before the official XO **** so idk. I never really knew none of them like that so I can't say too much and keep it honest at the same time. But I know a girl who knows Lamar and says they still talk and she said he don't take Abel for a joke at all. She said Lamar, out of anyone, has his loyalty with XO. I mean unlike anyone else besides Abel he is holding it down with the photography and visuals and not to mention when he directs other artist's videos he's still reppin XO. He got it tatted behind his ear too so idk, I'm iffy on that one.



But back to Abel, I know the struggle that kid went through and all of us got into some crazy **** and if you're looking for the cold hard truth I'll put my business out there... the people who I was chillin with that I met him through, we were doing anything from weed to Ketamine and Morphine, so if they doin that with me, and we're all doing cocaine and X together... they probably be doing the same thing. I mean we didn't even know what the pills were we just put em on our tongues and downed em with beer. And one thing that astonished me was how good he was at hiding it cause I guess back then he cared or wasn't ready for that kind of attention like that **** the rest of us were getting. Just as Glass Table Girls implies, "I heard he on drugs now/You heard wrong I been on em for a minute we just never act a fool"...



And my current plug is as Ethiopian as it gets and he laughed when I asked him if they thought he was a "disgrace" he was like wtf lol The "Ethiopian community" doesn't give a ****. His family is another story. But I heard through some old friends that his family was hella religious and all into tradition and **** (hince The Knowing music video) and from what I seen Abel was like **** if there is a God I don't really care right now so when fam dropped him **** escalated fast. He ended up bouncing around a lot of what society calls "the wrong crowd" (which I was a part of that's how I got to sit back and watch The Weeknd form lol) In Toronto a lot of kids like me, kids like him, and possibly kids like you stick together to survive really. No one lived in my crib cause it was closer to college or we felt we were ready to move out, ya know? We were struggling to keep off the streets stealing petty **** like ramen and frozen bags of fish sticks. And if you don't believe me there is a rapper from Toronto on the rise who just released his mixtape Conflicts Of My Soul: The 416 Story and if anyone knows the lifestyle I'm talking about or doesn't get it listen to the whole mixtape and it will speak for me that right there is beautiful poetic justice.



And about people seeing him "act gay" that is an insanely ****ed up thing to say for the gay community. I didn't know there was a certain way that "gay" people acted. I do know that because he only showed this hipster kind of partying side to him (rather then the terror stirring up inside him) that was like ****y and idgaf... but if it rubbed off "gay" then you're mistaken and need to slap yourself in the face 100 times for having bad judgement. Now I did hear he went upstairs with a bisexual kid but I can promise it was nothing intimate. He probably had some drugs Abel wasn't down to do in front of people and back then we was all desperate. **** I would have jumped into a car with 6 strange men for a blunt and a couple pills.



And I laughed when I read Twenty Eight being about Drake! Twenty Eight is a double entendre about a girl who put his business out (as I said he was afraid of due to insecurities) and his fans and how his very untraditional success came about. Unlike a label hearing buzz and putting him on it was like social media was his label the way they marketed him. From all the fan made artwork and covers, Dj hosted mixapes, blogs were and still are covering his every move, etc... It was WELL overwhelming. And no he did not go to Forrest Hill or West Hill we went to Birchmount... or I did for a year or so.



AND LAST BUT FASHOOOO NOT LEAST!!!..... *drum roll* JEREMY ROSE! Ohh Lord... Jeremy moved to Toronto to get serious about his music carreer. Jeremy and Abel were never actully "introduced" to each other despite all this popular belief. It was really all mutual friends and they met by circumstance (just like me)... some Australians or Asians or some **** that Jeremy met at a poutine place (everyone meets at a poutine place lol). They would throw parties and smoke sessions and they were playing Jeremy's original version of What You Need and Abel started freestyling over it. They instantly had chemisty and Jeremy asked to work with him. Now this is when Abel was with The Noise and he was after the fast money and what not (he was also Kin Kane... like the kin of Kane... cause he's Abel, get it? lol) anywhooo now on a side note by this time I was already as strung out as Abel is now so what I'm giving you is unbiased **** based on what I've seen as a witness I don't really consider myself a friend or an acquaintance... I think Jeremy kinda say what Abel had in him with all he was doing and tried to convince him on "The Weekend" I think he knew Abel fit for the concept. Like tbh The Noise was all half-assed music for the money money but The Weekend would be something real for both of em. Now Abel went with it but during the process they began to see differently and where originally they both had the idea of real grimy nasty raw music xxx type **** but Abel then had a change of heart or desire or something and created "The Weeknd" and I BELIEVE from my pov that it was after the concept of Thursday came about. For anyone who read the Kiss and Tell interview Thursday was a conceptual project which means it's the same on going story, like the tracks are chapters in a book. It was probably this apiphany earth shattering type **** experiance that he was like "****... **** just got real." and with so much word getting around about the music along with the usage and habits he ran with it.



Yeah he took the idea and general concept of the rawness Jeremy wanted but he morphed it into this real deal. Jeremy wanted tunes about straight getting ****ed up and ****ing ****es left and right but Trilogy became so much more. Like he rarely ever says "she" it's always "you" which is why we grew such a connection as fans to him we literally get this vibe like he's singing to us. There's such a significant difference when you sing, "shots of the henny bottles of patron blunts to her face she don't wanna sing no more lost her c notes cabbed all day took the bus back home evictions on her door" rather then "shots of the henny bottles of patron blunts to your face you don't wanna sing no more lost your c notes cabbed all day took the bus back home evictions on your door" we get this intimate feeling especially if we are really going through that as listeners. **** XO/The Host could very well be about me God knows I was in the position for too long lol and those are the vibes we get off of it.



Now I haven't spoken or seen any of them in years probably since 2010 so now I speak pretty much as a fan. I feel more like a witness then an old friend cause I don't really think we were ever friends we were just too ****ed up kids looking for the thrill and my people just so happen to have what his people was looking for so it was all by circumstance. **** if I knew it was going to lead here I woulda never dropped any of they asses lol



Last thing I got is all the different opinions people are telling me on who he's become. Some people tell me he's still that same real chill laid back kid and others tell me he's a flat out douche, hopefully one day I'll be able to judge for myself so Abel if you're reading this you know I stay with the turn up ingrediants and I stay in Miami lol So yeah.... That's it. One Love" UPDATED









The link is http://www.lipstickalley.com/f15/since-were-talking-weeknd-drake-lets-have-lil-tea-party-475186/ Here are some quotes"Drake met weeknd when weeknd was working at the American Apparel on Yonge street..this was during drakes mix tape days, they hung out alot in hookah/shiishaa bars in Toronto. anyhow, drake kept his word and put on weeknd and his boys onnce he got established, but weeknd got into that "industry" life and got introduced to coke, drake dabbles in coke too...but now weeknd is a full in addict.coke, scrips,lean anything..he claims it helps him write all those depressing ass songs everyone loves..the label issue is just one layer in the ****ery...""Anywho, the combination of **** he's on is making him highly paranoid, he rarely does interviews, promos, ect...that's another reason why drake is pissed, he feels the weeknd isn't capitalizing off his momentum, the kid fires his assistant every other week because he's so paranoid""Weeknd NEVER did drugs initially. It was a music gimmick. He did it for people to think it was artsy fartsy eclectic music. He does drugs now. He is strung out as sh*t. Now as far as the white women girl HE DONT LIKE WOMEN PERIOD. There is an African man named Hassan that I met and he lived with Abel in downtown Toronto. Hassan doubles as a ******. I used to see him at Kensington Market buying dresses and wigs and what not. Abel doesnt even have a legit crew. There are a few ****** he grew up with that use him for his money. Some Somolian guy named Stix. And a Jamaican dude named Lamar. They use his likeness to get girls, get money and get on. Im not sure if they know he is gay but they dont respect him. AT ALL. All they want is his money, It is a come up to them. Abels cousins dont even speak to him they think he ashamed our "people" and that hes strange. There is a girl, who people call a madam/pimp. Her name is Mona. She sets these dudes up with females all the time. And Abel never wants one. He usually zones out and passes out before the party can begin. It led people to believe he was suspect. Brandon Jennings stays tryna be friends with Weeknd. He keeps saying he wants to play in Toronto and trying to mingle with Weeknd or his friends. I wonder why!!""Well "his crew" take him for a joke well known facts. And I have no issues with n*ggas preferences specially no Weeknd. I spit facts. Ho business is my business, I know these dudes and they think hes flaming and a lame. Far as Lamar that dude clowns him to every chick he smashes. And dont get me started on Stix.""Abel loves bony ass drugged out looking white chicks with stringy blonde hair. We were shooting the **** one day and just people watching. All the girls that walked by that he said he would smash looked like what I just described.I didn't know him before the fame so I don't know if he was doing drugs then but he is damn sure strung out now. I had to deny him a ride home because I was 100% positive he had drugs on him and it would be just my luck to get stop by a cop or something."I'm a Weeknd fan by the way, I just wanted to see if this was true or not."I saw a lot of this **** and literally laughed out loud. My name is Nina M Pate and I was born and raised in Scarborough. I used to chill with Abel Tesfaye through mutual friends a lot and I created this **** just so I can clear all this **** up.(UPDATED REPLY FROM ONE OF ABEL'S OLD FRIENDS TO THIS THREAD)First, Drake and Abel did not ever chill back in Drake's mixtape days, Drake's OVO member Oliver showed Abel to him through his Youtube.Also Abel has always been a "troubled kid." From what I saw he struggled with self-esteem and self-placement for a long time. I dropped out not too far into school so I can't speak much about that only what I remember. Anyways, we had a **** load of mutual friends surprisingly I guess and chilled by circumstance. From what I seen, before he was even put on for music in general like not even The Noise or nothing I know he smoked weed, we all did. My older brother was a well known chemist/dealer and not too far down along the timeline him and a few others started asking for **** from party drugs like Roxies and X to wanting to try coke. Not too long after graduation or maybe even before he was smoking weed daily and a pack a day. Yes, he began to change a lot but I don't think it was for image... to be personally it just looked like he didin't give a ****. He went to AA eventually I guess tryna get some help (a lot of help that did) and there he met Nev (who's now a director or some ****). Now I don't know who the Hell came up with this outlandish idea, but Nev was never a "pimp" setting up dudes with chicks. She was just a real lesbian and a mad cool one at that.Hassan never doubled as anything either. That's the dumbest **** I've heard... Yes, he's gay but for anyone who doesn't know, Abel is as far from judgemental as possible. And Haz wasn't even FLAMING gay like he knew how to stay chill he was a real laid back kinda dude. I guess Haz offered to pay for most of the rent or some **** cause he had money and was a good friend and like anyone practically living on the streets would Abel took the offer (**** I would.) I used to chill with this kid named Tim who knew Haz when we went over a couple of times their wasn't one thing that would lead to a single thought of an intimate relationship smh.And about girls, he's always loved white chicks. ALWAYS. I can recall laughing, back for the short time I went to school, and at parties cause him and his friends stayed tryna hit on chicks left and right but back then none they asses was getting none (off the record it's amazing what drug abuse, a beard, and grown out hair will do to sex appeal... in a positive way lol.)Anyways, about his homies tryna hook him up and him rejecting girls, he wasn't ... at least back then... an **** and used to have respect for them AND himself. He was a real reclused dude and didn't wan't his business out like that. There was so much pillow talk back then and I'm sure ain't **** changed in the passed couple years.One thing I do kind of agree on is the crew thing... it seems like some of em (not naming anyone) kind of came out of no where. But Abel and Lamar go way back before the official XO **** so idk. I never really knew none of them like that so I can't say too much and keep it honest at the same time. But I know a girl who knows Lamar and says they still talk and she said he don't take Abel for a joke at all. She said Lamar, out of anyone, has his loyalty with XO. I mean unlike anyone else besides Abel he is holding it down with the photography and visuals and not to mention when he directs other artist's videos he's still reppin XO. He got it tatted behind his ear too so idk, I'm iffy on that one.But back to Abel, I know the struggle that kid went through and all of us got into some crazy **** and if you're looking for the cold hard truth I'll put my business out there... the people who I was chillin with that I met him through, we were doing anything from weed to Ketamine and Morphine, so if they doin that with me, and we're all doing cocaine and X together... they probably be doing the same thing. I mean we didn't even know what the pills were we just put em on our tongues and downed em with beer. And one thing that astonished me was how good he was at hiding it cause I guess back then he cared or wasn't ready for that kind of attention like that **** the rest of us were getting. Just as Glass Table Girls implies, "I heard he on drugs now/You heard wrong I been on em for a minute we just never act a fool"...And my current plug is as Ethiopian as it gets and he laughed when I asked him if they thought he was a "disgrace" he was like wtf lol The "Ethiopian community" doesn't give a ****. His family is another story. But I heard through some old friends that his family was hella religious and all into tradition and **** (hince The Knowing music video) and from what I seen Abel was like **** if there is a God I don't really care right now so when fam dropped him **** escalated fast. He ended up bouncing around a lot of what society calls "the wrong crowd" (which I was a part of that's how I got to sit back and watch The Weeknd form lol) In Toronto a lot of kids like me, kids like him, and possibly kids like you stick together to survive really. No one lived in my crib cause it was closer to college or we felt we were ready to move out, ya know? We were struggling to keep off the streets stealing petty **** like ramen and frozen bags of fish sticks. And if you don't believe me there is a rapper from Toronto on the rise who just released his mixtape Conflicts Of My Soul: The 416 Story and if anyone knows the lifestyle I'm talking about or doesn't get it listen to the whole mixtape and it will speak for me that right there is beautiful poetic justice.And about people seeing him "act gay" that is an insanely ****ed up thing to say for the gay community. I didn't know there was a certain way that "gay" people acted. I do know that because he only showed this hipster kind of partying side to him (rather then the terror stirring up inside him) that was like ****y and idgaf... but if it rubbed off "gay" then you're mistaken and need to slap yourself in the face 100 times for having bad judgement. Now I did hear he went upstairs with a bisexual kid but I can promise it was nothing intimate. He probably had some drugs Abel wasn't down to do in front of people and back then we was all desperate. **** I would have jumped into a car with 6 strange men for a blunt and a couple pills.And I laughed when I read Twenty Eight being about Drake! Twenty Eight is a double entendre about a girl who put his business out (as I said he was afraid of due to insecurities) and his fans and how his very untraditional success came about. Unlike a label hearing buzz and putting him on it was like social media was his label the way they marketed him. From all the fan made artwork and covers, Dj hosted mixapes, blogs were and still are covering his every move, etc... It was WELL overwhelming. And no he did not go to Forrest Hill or West Hill we went to Birchmount... or I did for a year or so.AND LAST BUT FASHOOOO NOT LEAST!!!..... *drum roll* JEREMY ROSE! Ohh Lord... Jeremy moved to Toronto to get serious about his music carreer. Jeremy and Abel were never actully "introduced" to each other despite all this popular belief. It was really all mutual friends and they met by circumstance (just like me)... some Australians or Asians or some **** that Jeremy met at a poutine place (everyone meets at a poutine place lol). They would throw parties and smoke sessions and they were playing Jeremy's original version of What You Need and Abel started freestyling over it. They instantly had chemisty and Jeremy asked to work with him. Now this is when Abel was with The Noise and he was after the fast money and what not (he was also Kin Kane... like the kin of Kane... cause he's Abel, get it? lol) anywhooo now on a side note by this time I was already as strung out as Abel is now so what I'm giving you is unbiased **** based on what I've seen as a witness I don't really consider myself a friend or an acquaintance... I think Jeremy kinda say what Abel had in him with all he was doing and tried to convince him on "The Weekend" I think he knew Abel fit for the concept. Like tbh The Noise was all half-assed music for the money money but The Weekend would be something real for both of em. Now Abel went with it but during the process they began to see differently and where originally they both had the idea of real grimy nasty raw music xxx type **** but Abel then had a change of heart or desire or something and created "The Weeknd" and I BELIEVE from my pov that it was after the concept of Thursday came about. For anyone who read the Kiss and Tell interview Thursday was a conceptual project which means it's the same on going story, like the tracks are chapters in a book. It was probably this apiphany earth shattering type **** experiance that he was like "****... **** just got real." and with so much word getting around about the music along with the usage and habits he ran with it.Yeah he took the idea and general concept of the rawness Jeremy wanted but he morphed it into this real deal. Jeremy wanted tunes about straight getting ****ed up and ****ing ****es left and right but Trilogy became so much more. Like he rarely ever says "she" it's always "you" which is why we grew such a connection as fans to him we literally get this vibe like he's singing to us. There's such a significant difference when you sing, "shots of the henny bottles of patron blunts to her face she don't wanna sing no more lost her c notes cabbed all day took the bus back home evictions on her door" rather then "shots of the henny bottles of patron blunts to your face you don't wanna sing no more lost your c notes cabbed all day took the bus back home evictions on your door" we get this intimate feeling especially if we are really going through that as listeners. **** XO/The Host could very well be about me God knows I was in the position for too long lol and those are the vibes we get off of it.Now I haven't spoken or seen any of them in years probably since 2010 so now I speak pretty much as a fan. I feel more like a witness then an old friend cause I don't really think we were ever friends we were just too ****ed up kids looking for the thrill and my people just so happen to have what his people was looking for so it was all by circumstance. **** if I knew it was going to lead here I woulda never dropped any of they asses lolLast thing I got is all the different opinions people are telling me on who he's become. Some people tell me he's still that same real chill laid back kid and others tell me he's a flat out douche, hopefully one day I'll be able to judge for myself so Abel if you're reading this you know I stay with the turn up ingrediants and I stay in Miami lol So yeah.... That's it. One Love" UPDATED