A message from Anonymous astrid physically abuses him in both movies!

antixhiccstrid:

avannak: I honestly can’t tell if you believe the shit you’re spewing. If you truly believe that’s physical abuse then enjoy the rest of your life in a bubble. The closest Astrid got to abuse was in the cove in movie one. After Hiccup t o u c h e s her first. Furthermore, She gave him a chance to explain. He lied to her face and touched her. The jackass. Astrid is not abusive. She’s a viking with restraint and Hiccup pushed the boundries of that restraint. After they become friends and she punches him? Is that what’s bothering you? Because know this: If Hiccup told Astrid, directly, seriously, to stop—that it bothered him—she would. He hasn’t. He grumbles and tisks and accepts whatever form she’ll later make it up to him. At no point in the past five years has Hiccup told Astrid to stop hitting him (harmless hits too, come on). Astrid has a lot more experience l i s t e n i n g to people than Hiccup does, and she would absolutely listen to him over something that upset him. He doesn’t even cower. His body language accepts it. He knows it as communication. She doesn’t give a shit if it upsets you, however. Part of her charm, I guess. Let’s go through the events of Hiccup touching Astrid and how she responds. Astrid appears, and waves her axe dangerously close to his face. You can see here he is obviously uncomfortable. He steps in front of her, and she responds by … … Picking him up by his shirt. A little bit of an overreaction, but okay. After she drops him, he starts to walk away . . … and she grabs him … … throws him to the ground … . . and lastly walks over him. So far he has not even laid a hand on her. This is the part you are talking about: He freaking touches her shoulder and grabs her hand, putting it to his chest in a joking manner. She bends his hand backwards, kicks him in the stomach, and drops her axe on him. But hey, it’s okay because he touched her, amirite? And don’t even bring up that she’s a viking, because if Snotlout did the same exact shit, everyone would boo and hate him. Hiccup may not tell her to stop, but we can still see that it hurts … and she laughs. Let’s switched the roles here, okay? Astrid is a little weakling, and Hiccup is this big strong guy. Hiccup punches Astrid constantly, and we can see very visibly on her face that it hurts. Hiccup just laughs it off, as does the audience because its just a boy hitting a girl. Imagine the thousands of articles, all proclaiming this to be the most anti-feminist movie ever. A national outcry happens. ~mod Critter

No, it’s not okay if he touched her. The way he did it and the way she did it are actually completely different. Yeah, yeah, Astrid grabs him, drops him, walks over him—typical man-handling we’ve seen throughout the movie. Walking over him was a nice touch (and would have easily been accepted if their roles were reversed); more character than sympathy there. Astrid first “touched” Hiccup after she finally catches him and he tries to walk off again. How she dragged him back was very Viking. *shrugs* That’s not just an Astrid thing.

Was it good for a couple? Shit no. But they aren’t a couple. It’s not like she wants to touch him, or even fight him just yet, she just wants his attention for two thor-damn minutes to get to the bottom of something.

But then Hiccup “…grabs her hand, putting it to his chest in a joking manner.” In a joking manner? You mean the same manner Hiccup speaks after he causes the village serious destruction and tries to laugh it off as though it wasn’t that big a deal? The same, grating manner Astrid hears as her supposed-future chief flakes again—that she’s heard for years. She hates that—the whole village hates that. That’s not Hiccup being cute—that’s Hiccup being a dick. And he’s using it again on her, holding her hand, holding it to his chest? She fucked that hand up. She threw him to the ground. Once Hiccup broke that dam she kept going. No where did I say Astrid’s reaction in the cove was a good one. She kicked his ass—and it was a long time coming (for her). You don’t have to agree if she was justified at all, but what happened in the cove between them has nothing to do with their romantic relationship and people have a damn hard time comprehending that. It has to do with two competing vikings having an altercation. It’s two people who don’t get along having a fight that’s been building for a while.

Snotlout did do the same shit—it’s straight up nonsensical to think otherwise. Hiccup probably got shoved out of the way and pinched and pushed down by his cousin his entire life. Except Snotlout probably did it simply because he as mean and it was encouraged by his father. Hell, Snotlout was going to bash Astrid’s face in with a mace… in the movie. You know Hiccup got knocked around by people and it wasn’t quite bullying so much as their way of life and Hiccup being of an unfortunate size.

First person to “abuse” Hiccup? Gobber. Gobber whacking Hiccup on the back of the head for bing a dingbat. If that’s what flies around here.

First time Hiccup cried out in pain? When Toothless smacked Hiccup in the face as they flew. You think Toothless stopped smacking Hiccup in the face when he does something stupid? You think Toothless knocks the wind out of Hiccup any less than Astrid? Hell no.

“We can see that it hurts… and she laughs”

And what… the everliving hell? You bring Astrid laughing in… where? Years later with the spring coil? How is that in any way related to the one time Astrid attacked him?

“Astrid is a little weakling and Hiccup is a big strong guy…” - what role reversal are you talking about? Because that would imply Hiccup is a little weakling and Astrid is a big strong girl when they’re pretty even—particularly in the second film.

Astrid is not a Tsundere. Tsunderes are not cute. Hell, Astrid’s playful/affectionate punches (book-canon, btw) aren’t even that cute but saying Astrid abuses Hiccup is the joke of the century. Astrid attacks Hiccup because she’s provoked and it was the only time she ever fought him. It has nothing to do with her future relationship with him—least of all them being in an abusive relationship. Get up in arms about how Ruffnut and Tuffnut treat each other before you go after Astrid.