On the latest episode of “Truths That Transform” from D. James Kennedy Ministries, the organization’s president, Frank Wright, sat down with the Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins to discuss “how secularist groups have worked to strip any mention of God and Christianity from the public square,” which Perkins complained was resulting in Christians being forced into “spiritual ghettos.”

“We are not disqualified from engaging in the public square simple because we’re Christian,” Perkins said. “And that’s where we’re at today, where people want us to check our Christian faith at the door of even public service; not just holding public office, but if you’re a fireman, a policeman, a teacher, a football coach, you’re supposed to leave your faith at home or within the confines of the church. [That is] totally contrary to what the founders envisioned and, I would argue, Frank, totally contrary to what God has called us to do.”

When Wright wondered how long it will be before even the private practice of faith is not tolerated by the government, Perkins declared that “we see this administration, we see the left creating these spiritual ghettos where we are forced into, confined to these areas, trying to quarantine faith so it’s more easily controllable.”