I told him, “Now we know what your stance is on one issue.” I’m not sure any candidate is going to come out and say they’re in favor of violence. So we’ll see what he does now with what he says, and we’ll see what his other issues are — and I’m watching the other candidates, too. I mean, there are so many!

Did he say anything else to you that you found memorable?

I can separate knowing who someone is in their personal life from knowing who someone is as a politician. I still have to be convinced of anybody being worthy of my vote. He seemed like an O.K. guy talking to him. I don’t know anything about his policies or his platform.

He had heard the rumor that I was traumatized, too, and I heard rumors that other people were. I haven’t really talked to anybody about it one way or the other, but I said, “If you had asked me beforehand, I would have told you that this could backfire on you.”

And what did he say in response?

I don’t really remember that he answered me.

How long was the phone call?

About 20 minutes, while I was driving through town.

I assume that at some point yesterday morning you watched Mr. Biden’s video?

Yes, I watched it before I commented to anybody about it.

And what did you make of it? He doesn’t use Heather’s name, but he does talk about a “brave young woman.”

I noted that he did not use her name, and I commented to him about that, and I said, “I assume that’s because you didn’t check with me first.” And he said, “That is correct.”