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Re: Cadillac tax

From:aoleary@hillaryclinton.com To: re47@hillaryclinton.com CC: bfallon@hillaryclinton.com, jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com, john.podesta@gmail.com, jbenenson@bsgco.com, gruncom@aol.com, jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2015-09-26 21:42 Subject: Re: Cadillac tax

Jen/Brian - HRC would like to go with the Senate Dem version of repeal with no caveats but strong message that it must be paid for and R version without pay for is unacceptable. Meet the Press worthy? If so, I want to work with Nikki and Amanda to set it up with unions. Ann O’Leary Sent from my iPhone (510) 717-5518 (cell) On Sep 26, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Robby Mook <re47@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: I vote for repeal! On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Ann O'Leary <aoleary@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: > The idea is to go back to her 2008 position, which was that we should not > be subsidizing higher earners on their health plans. But I agree that we > will not be gaining much revenue nor will we be getting health savings by > taking this position so and maybe cleaner just to go for repeal. The > problem is that there are number of people who think that is a step too > far. Let me check with her and get back on this chain after I hear back. > > > Ann O’Leary > Sent from my iPhone > (510) 717-5518 (cell) > > On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Brian Fallon <bfallon@hillaryclinton.com> > wrote: > > Can I ask what headline we are seeking with this? Because it strikes me as > a clever attempt to be both for and against the cadillac tax. Why arent we > just for outright repeal if we are going to cede back all the revenue > anyway by holding <250k harmless? > > On Saturday, September 26, 2015, Ann O'Leary <aoleary@hillaryclinton.com> > wrote: > >> I think it is more Q of political question - if we need to do it for >> political reason, this may be good venue. John - What do you think about >> getting out there on it tomorrow? >> >> >> Ann O’Leary >> Sent from my iPhone >> (510) 717-5518 (cell) >> >> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Jennifer Palmieri < >> jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >> >> It doesn't pass bar of news that would break through emails. So I don't >> know that it is worth the effort. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Ann O'Leary <aoleary@hillaryclinton.com> >> wrote: >> >> Jen/Brian - Do you all want to try to land repeal of Cadillac tax + >> applying tax to $250K and above on MTP? Need to lock it with HRC and set it >> up with unions if we are going to pull trigger tomorrow. Please advise. >> >> >> Ann O’Leary >> Sent from my iPhone >> (510) 717-5518 (cell) >> >> On Sep 26, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Jennifer Palmieri < >> jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >> >> It also will not break through as big news on MTP. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 26, 2015, at 2:27 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think we will pay a huge price with the WH on this one. Worries me. >> On Sep 26, 2015 1:13 PM, "Ann O'Leary" <aoleary@hillaryclinton.com> >> wrote: >> >>> +Podesta >>> Califf the Obama nominee does have real ties to the drug industry - >>> Chris Jennings is calling a few people for me to learn more so we don't tip >>> our hand directly. We are clean on Clinton Admin FDA Commissioner - it was >>> David Kessler, an academic who had run a teaching hospital - and best known >>> for taking on big tobacco. We could certainly signal that we want someone >>> willing to stand up to Pharma (in the same way Kessler stood up to Tobacco). >>> >>> BUT - I want to do a little more digging and due diligence before we hit >>> this guy. Having been through a nomination fight with my husband (in which >>> he lost), this is personal and messy and horrible on the person nominated >>> and their families - so I don't take attacking this guy lightly. >>> >>> Do you want to do it on Meet the Press? >>> >>> Also, as long as I have all of your attention - on Cadillac Tax - the >>> general consensus is that we should frame our position as Cadillac Tax >>> should be repealed but that we should tax people who make more than $250K >>> b/c they don't need to have tax-payer funded subsidies. I have not nailed >>> this down with HRC. Should I try to do that today if we are going to >>> announce this on Meet the Press? >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jake Sullivan < >>> jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Better go look at WJC administration FDA nominees. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Jake Sullivan < >>>> jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is ultimately a political call, not a policy call. I don't >>>>> really like the idea of bashing this White House's nominees, knowing their >>>>> vetting process and standards. >>>>> >>>>> But if you guys want to do it, I cannot identify a policy reason not >>>>> to -- you all know the facts. >>>>> >>>>> Ann, any other intel? >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Brian Fallon < >>>>> bfallon@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Any update on this? As we consider fights that fit into the larger >>>>>> themes we are trying to promote, this seems like a good fight to have. >>>>>> Plus, the VP would be in a box of having to support this nominee. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Ann O'Leary < >>>>>> aoleary@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting. I'll do some asking around to see what folks in the >>>>>>> public health world think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Mandy Grunwald <gruncom@aol.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know anything about the guy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If we weren't hitting the Administration with Keystone this week, I >>>>>>>> might be tempted, but I think that probably makes it a bad idea. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lets keep an eye on it and see about those Pharma ties. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Mandy Grunwald* >>>>>>>> *Grunwald Communications* >>>>>>>> *202 973-9400 <202%20973-9400>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> From: Jake Sullivan <jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com> >>>>>>>> To: Mandy Grunwald <gruncom@aol.com> >>>>>>>> Cc: Ann O'Leary <aoleary@hillaryclinton.com>; Joel Benenson < >>>>>>>> jbenenson@bsgco.com>; bfallon <bfallon@hillaryclinton.com>; >>>>>>>> Jennifer Palmieri <jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 11:22 pm >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: F.D.A. Nominee Califf’s Ties to Drug Makers Worry Some >>>>>>>> - The New York Times >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Mandy Grunwald >>>>>>>> <gruncom@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Do we want to weigh in on this? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/health/fda-nominee-califfs-ties-to-drug-industry-raise-questions.html >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mandy Grunwald >>>>>>>> > Grunwald Communications >>>>>>>> > 202 973-9400 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ann O'Leary >>>>>>> Senior Policy Advisor >>>>>>> Hillary for America >>>>>>> Cell: 510-717-5518 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ann O'Leary >>> Senior Policy Advisor >>> Hillary for America >>> Cell: 510-717-5518 >>> >>