Tier 3 and Tier 4 Raid Counter Infographics

I did my best to make my wife go blind these last few days making her mess with teeny tiny Pokemon Go icons in Photoshop. But if you know anything about Pokebattler, you know we can’t rest until we’ve got THE most accurate and effective Pokemon analyses! So while there are plenty of nice looking infographics floating around out there in the interwebs, and some may even be more attractive or better organized, NONE are more accurate or effective than these! How do I know? Because as far as I can tell, everyone making these infographics is using my site. And I JUST updated my site (twice) for more accuracy, which is what these infographics are based on. Plus those other graphics aren’t even trying to show counters based on the move the raid boss is using, which is a big deal! If you go in to a Alakazam fight with Tyranitar and he has Focus Blast, you are in for a world of pain (unless you dodge).

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Reading the Infographics

Borrowing some organization styles from other infographics, and using the updated data from the interactive raid guide, these guides will help you get started on a raid when you don’t know what types of moves your boss has yet. The icons below each mon are the strongest types of quick and special moves.”All’ means all their move sets are good. Some Pokemons have two icons separated with a slash. For these, the top left one is stronger than the bottom right, but they are both good choices. On the right side, there are specific counters for after you’ve lost the first round and know what types of moves the boss is using. The icons to the right of the counter are types of moves that you should use this counter against. Typically these counters are strong but have a very big weakness such as Tyranitar vs. raid bosses with fighting moves. But if a boss is REALLY throwing you for a loop, or if your level if throwing off your counters, it’s time to get custom results using pokebattler.com. Fortunately for you, it’s as mobile-user friendly as I can make it.

Using custom counters from the Interactive Raid Guide

Many players may just use the infographics to choose their guys and call it a day. But if you’re a Pokebattler.com user, you don’t just stop there. You see the infographic as something to help you get started and do a few rounds with your raid boss to see how you do. But if you haven’t got a strong team for a raid 4, or are trying to solo a tier 3, you’re probably going to lose that first round. So like I mentioned before, pay attention to the types of moves your raid boss is using. Sometimes it’s obvious – Arcanine only has one special electric move – wild charge. And in that case, he’s going to murder your normally very effective Vaporeons way too quickly. The other thing the interactive raid guide gives you is the ability to choose your level and attack strategy. If you want to solo a boss, sometimes you have to dodge!

Data used for this chart

Pokebattler is by far the most analytical Pokemon Go site out there. There are a huge number of simulation options and it is constantly being updated. The most recent update added full support for raids, running 6 attackers in a row against the boss. This helps handle some situations that were skewing the results of previous simulations. For example, if you managed to get 2 big solar beams off and then die to a quick attack, there was no penalty for the 2nd attacker having to face an immediate special to the face. I know what some of you are thinking, ‘I have no idea what he’s talking about’ and that’s okay! Just leave the simulations to me and trust that the results have the best research currently available behind them. For the few of you who do want to get into the details, I encourage you to join me in the Pokebattler subreddit for detailed Pokemon Go research.

How I Get My Results

So when new research is complete, new highly accurate monte carlo simulations need to be run. These take up a ton of space even in highly optimized binary format! The latest update is still generating for all combinations of rankings but the results for this infographic were from monte carlo runs. This means 200 simulations were run for each possible combination of movesets that every attacker and boss might have. The results from all possible movesets were collected in the below table along with the chart. As before, the overall numbers below can be used to see which bosses are easiest, with the most counters. These numbers should not be used for soloing, for that, use the raid guide and sort by time to win!

Tier 3, level 30 attacker, no dodging, Monte Carlo

Raid Boss Quick Special Overall Arcanine Unknown Unknown 224.5% Arcanine Snarl Wild Charge 212.7% Arcanine Fire Fang Wild Charge 214.5% Arcanine Snarl Crunch 221.6% Arcanine Fire Fang Crunch 221.8% Arcanine Snarl Fire Blast 232.1% Arcanine Fire Fang Fire Blast 232.7% Alakazam Unknown Unknown 181.2% Alakazam Confusion Shadow Ball 167.2% Alakazam Confusion Focus Blast 167.4% Alakazam Psycho Cut Shadow Ball 171.1% Alakazam Confusion Future Sight 183.0% Alakazam Psycho Cut Focus Blast 192.0% Alakazam Psycho Cut Future Sight 206.6% Machamp Unknown Unknown 222.9% Machamp Counter Heavy Slam 212.7% Machamp Bullet Punch Dynamic Punch 213.9% Machamp Counter Dynamic Punch 214.9% Machamp Bullet Punch Heavy Slam 216.8% Machamp Bullet Punch Close Combat 238.8% Machamp Counter Close Combat 240.3% Gengar Unknown Unknown 219.1% Gengar Sucker Punch Shadow Ball 190.1% Gengar Hex Shadow Ball 192.6% Gengar Hex Sludge Bomb 226.9% Gengar Sucker Punch Sludge Bomb 228.3% Gengar Hex Focus Blast 232.9% Gengar Sucker Punch Focus Blast 243.6% Vaporeon Unknown Unknown 180.2% Vaporeon Water Gun Water Pulse 217.7% Vaporeon Water Gun Aqua Tail 217.7% Vaporeon Water Gun Hydro Pump 221.7% Jolteon Unknown Unknown 133.7% Jolteon Volt Switch Thunderbolt 155.7% Jolteon Thunder Shock Discharge 157.3% Jolteon Thunder Shock Thunderbolt 157.5% Jolteon Volt Switch Discharge 158.5% Jolteon Volt Switch Thunder 159.6% Jolteon Thunder Shock Thunder 167.5% Flareon Unknown Unknown 133.7% Flareon Fire Spin Overheat 178.6% Flareon Ember Overheat 178.7% Flareon Fire Spin Fire Blast 179.1% Flareon Ember Fire Blast 179.1% Flareon Fire Spin Flamethrower 180.7% Flareon Ember Flamethrower 181.2%

Tier 4, level 30 attacker, no dodging, Monte Carlo

Raid Boss Quick Special Overall Venusaur Unknown Unknown 219.0% Venusaur Vine Whip Sludge Bomb 196.9% Venusaur Razor Leaf Sludge Bomb 197.8% Venusaur Razor Leaf Solar Beam 218.1% Venusaur Vine Whip Solar Beam 222.2% Venusaur Razor Leaf Petal Blizzard 226.8% Venusaur Vine Whip Petal Blizzard 230.2% Charizard Unknown Unknown 265.8% Charizard Air Slash Overheat 262.9% Charizard Air Slash Dragon Claw 264.3% Charizard Fire Spin Dragon Claw 264.5% Charizard Fire Spin Overheat 265.1% Charizard Air Slash Fire Blast 268.1% Charizard Fire Spin Fire Blast 269.9% Blastoise Unknown Unknown 196.8% Blastoise Water Gun Ice Beam 177.6% Blastoise Bite Ice Beam 178.0% Blastoise Water Gun Hydro Pump 204.7% Blastoise Bite Hydro Pump 204.7% Blastoise Bite Flash Cannnon 207.0% Blastoise Water Gun Flash Cannnon 208.8% Rhydon Unknown Unknown 260.3% Rhydon Mud Slap Stone Edge 252.9% Rhydon Mud Slap Earthquake 255.9% Rhydon Mud Slap Megahorn 257.7% Rhydon Rock Smash Earthquake 262.3% Rhydon Rock Smash Stone Edge 265.5% Rhydon Rock Smash Megahorn 267.2% Lapras Unknown Unknown 233.6% Lapras Frost Breath Ice Beam 222.4% Lapras Water Gun Ice Beam 225.2% Lapras Frost Breath Blizzard 228.9% Lapras Frost Breath Hydro Pump 237.3% Lapras Water Gun Blizzard 243.1% Lapras Water Gun Hydro Pump 244.9% Snorlax Unknown Unknown 211.6% Snorlax Zen Headbutt Hyper Beam 193.8% Snorlax Zen Headbutt Heavy Slam 207.5% Snorlax Lick Heavy Slam 214.0% Snorlax Lick Hyper Beam 215.5% Snorlax Zen Headbutt Earthquake 215.8% Snorlax Lick Earthquake 222.8% Tyranitar Unknown Unknown 241.7% Tyranitar Iron Tail Crunch 235.2% Tyranitar Iron Tail Fire Blast 237.8% Tyranitar Iron Tail Stone Edge 238.3% Tyranitar Bite Crunch 240.5% Tyranitar Bite Fire Blast 241.0% Tyranitar Bite Stone Edge 257.1%

Conclusion

Infographics are a lot of work, especially when you have high quality standards like Pokebattler does. We hope you find these infographics useful in your raids. As always, the official raid guide is always kept up to date with the latest and greatest information.

My next updates will include allowing you to enter your own personal Pokémon and getting counter results based on your own custom line up, so keep checking back later.

Special thanks to Reddit and Twitter fans

I posted this yesterday and was informed of some errors so I deleted the post. In addition, there were multiple bug reports on twitter so I decided to ship out yet another release and tweak the formulas to make them more consistant and fit the meta. This has the new updated power formulas and the new weighting for Overall that is now 2/3s time to win and 1/3 power. The effect of this is to dramatically shift the rankings towards the higher dps options.