ring write " nova spell" so imo it should only be spells that are already made as nova. Might work with discharge or vortex tho... I hope. Poe Pvp experience

https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 Posted by

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" " so only shock and ice nova? or am I missing something



Maybe this will make some sick Sire of Shards builds. Maybe this will make some sick Sire of Shards builds. It will not. It has no interaction with Sire of Shards. It interacts with spells which have the new "Nova" tag, which is for AoE spells that non-directionally target an area centred on the caster, such as Ice Nova, Shock Nova or Discharge, and others of that ilk.



Since some of them don't have gems you can see tags on, here is the full list of current Nova spells in PoE:

Ice Nova

Vaal Ice Nova

Discharge

Shock Nova

Vortex

Vaal Blight

Dark Pact

Shock Ground

Glimpse of Eternity

Feast of Flesh

Arcane Wake

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Tempest

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Flames

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Thunder

EDIT: Shockwave Totem





Ethereal Knives (or any other projectile skill) does not have the Nova tag, and just like all similar "[TAG] skills..." modifiers, support effects cannot change what tags a spell is considered to have. To avoid confusion now that Nova is a tag for certain AoE spells, Sire of Shards is now worded as firing projectiles in a circle.



The Arrow Nova support has a similar description for stats, but keeps the name because support names are more flavourful than actual mechanical text, and because there's little chance of confusion about it working with this unique due to it not working with spells - so the unique can't work with the support, and already firing arrows from the targeted location - so the unique would have nothing to do if it could. It will not. It has no interaction with Sire of Shards. It interacts with spells which have the new "Nova" tag, which is for AoE spells that non-directionally target an area centred on the caster, such as Ice Nova, Shock Nova or Discharge, and others of that ilk.Since some of them don't have gems you can see tags on, here is the full list of current Nova spells in PoE:EDIT:Ethereal Knives (or any other projectile skill) does not have the Nova tag, and just like all similar "[TAG] skills..." modifiers, support effects cannot change what tags a spell is considered to have. To avoid confusion now that Nova is a tag for certain AoE spells, Sire of Shards is now worded as firing projectiles in a circle.The Arrow Nova support has a similar description for stats, but keeps the name because support names are more flavourful than actual mechanical text, and because there's little chance of confusion about it working with this unique due to it not working with spells - so the unique can't work with the support, and already firing arrows from the targeted location - so the unique would have nothing to do if it could. Last edited by Mark_GGG on Dec 12, 2019, 1:09:54 AM Posted by

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See, I knew it. This is a garbage item.





Thanks for the clarification, Mark. Posted by

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I think people are looking at the 20% less AOE thing the wrong way, though. This ring just replaces a spell slot: Ice Nova suffers less AOE when used on Frostbolt, anyway.



Now you don't need to cast any bolts. Just spam the nova. Or use Spell Cascade for more coverage. Or both.



It may be easier to control enemies getting hit by both rings of Shock Nova with a smaller area, too.



Does exactly what a unique item should. Opens up a new play style without being as good as a rare item.



EDIT: Removed hypothesis since it was confirmed. September 24th, 2019: A ruler is lost. Last edited by AbdulAlhazred on Dec 11, 2019, 11:40:58 PM Posted by

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Sure spell cascade will work with this? Posted by

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" Mark_GGG " " so only shock and ice nova? or am I missing something



Maybe this will make some sick Sire of Shards builds. Maybe this will make some sick Sire of Shards builds. It will not. It has no interaction with Sire of Shards. It interacts with spells which have the new "Nova" tag, which is for AoE spells that non-directionally target an area centred on the caster, such as Ice Nova, Shock Nova or Discharge, and others of that ilk.



Since some of them don't have gems you can see tags on, here is the full list of current Nova spells in PoE:

Ice Nova

Vaal Ice Nova

Discharge

Shock Nova

Vortex

Vaal Blight

Dark Pact

Shock Ground

Glimpse of Eternity

Feast of Flesh

Arcane Wake

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Tempest

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Flames

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Thunder



Ethereal Knives (or any other projectile skill) does not have the Nova tag, and just like all similar "[TAG] skills..." modifiers, support effects cannot change what tags a spell is considered to have. To avoid confusion now that Nova is a tag for certain AoE spells, Sire of Shards is now worded as firing projectiles in a circle.



The Arrow Nova support has a similar description for stats, but keeps the name because support names are more flavourful than actual mechanical text, and because there's little chance of confusion about it working with this unique due to it not working with spells - so the unique can't work with the support, and already firing arrows from the targeted location - so the unique would have nothing to do if it could. It will not. It has no interaction with Sire of Shards. It interacts with spells which have the new "Nova" tag, which is for AoE spells that non-directionally target an area centred on the caster, such as Ice Nova, Shock Nova or Discharge, and others of that ilk.Since some of them don't have gems you can see tags on, here is the full list of current Nova spells in PoE:Ethereal Knives (or any other projectile skill) does not have the Nova tag, and just like all similar "[TAG] skills..." modifiers, support effects cannot change what tags a spell is considered to have. To avoid confusion now that Nova is a tag for certain AoE spells, Sire of Shards is now worded as firing projectiles in a circle.The Arrow Nova support has a similar description for stats, but keeps the name because support names are more flavourful than actual mechanical text, and because there's little chance of confusion about it working with this unique due to it not working with spells - so the unique can't work with the support, and already firing arrows from the targeted location - so the unique would have nothing to do if it could.



Oh no. Went from one of the most interesting items, to most disappointing. Again, only you, GGG.



Edit: So how does Sire of Shards not add a hidden "Nova" tag? I mean, if Discharge counts as a "nova" now, and Death's Oath works with Arcane Surge by adding a hidden Duration tag... well come on, guys. Have some consistency.



Edit 2: You created this item and then reworded Sire just to disappoint us?



"Firing projectiles in a circle"? Really? Oh no. Went from one of the most interesting items, to most disappointing. Again, only you, GGG.Edit: So how does Sire of Shards not add a hidden "Nova" tag? I mean, if Discharge counts as a "nova" now, and Death's Oath works with Arcane Surge by adding a hidden Duration tag... well come on, guys. Have some consistency.Edit 2: You created this item and then reworded Sire just to disappoint us?"Firing projectiles in a circle"? Really? No fun allowed.™ Last edited by Ashriel on Dec 11, 2019, 11:51:25 PM Posted by

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Ice Nova

Vaal Ice Nova

Discharge

Shock Nova

Vortex

Vaal Blight

Dark Pact

Shock Ground

Glimpse of Eternity

Feast of Flesh

Arcane Wake

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Tempest

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Flames

Word/Edict/Decree/Commandment of Thunder Since some of them don't have gems you can see tags on, here is the full list of current Nova spells in PoE:

No longer required to be in melee range?! Screw bows, this is what I will play :D No longer required to be in melee range?! Screw bows, this is what I will play :D Posted by

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" Ashriel Edit: So how does Sire of Shards not add a hidden "Nova" tag? Because support effects fundamentally cannot do that.

" Ashriel I mean, if Discharge counts as a "nova" now Why would it not? it's a fully circular AoE centered on you. It's a perfect example of a nova. I honestly have no idea why you would be surprised by that one.

" Ashriel and Death's Oath works with Arcane Surge by adding a hidden Duration tag... It does not and never has. The game fundamentally does not work that way. A skill is considered to have the tags matching it's skill gem, and no others. Supports do not modifiy tags.

Because support effects fundamentally cannot do that.Why would it not? it's a fully circular AoE centered on you. It's a perfect example of a nova. I honestly have no idea why you would be surprised by that one.It does not and never has. The game fundamentally does not work that way. A skill is considered to have the tags matching it's skill gem, and no others. Supports do not modifiy tags. Posted by

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