I’m gonna put this in a post of it’s own, because I see much angst and gnashing of teeth and sharpening of claws on my dash right now. And everyone is a sweet baby that I want to hug as tell them it’s ok.

I like listes so here’s a list of why what Jensen said is not the end of the world.

1. Sarcasm. We’ll know better from the videos when we get them, but all the boys do tend to deflect questions, especially about shipping, with humor or sarcasm.

2. Jensen’s history with and perception of shipping. Remember the NYTims article a month or two ago and Jensen saying he didn’t want to talk about Wincest stuff or hear about that? That’s a fragment of his experience but it’s important to consider. His viewpoint on fanfic and shipping is influence by have to deal for years with fic and fans that have his character involved in an incestuous relationship - something anyone can understand being squicked out by.To him, as crossroadscastiel’s anon pointed out, shipping is about fucking - secret fucking that’s been going on all along. Which segues into my next point..

3. Past/Present and “secrets.” Jensen is used to/under the impression that some fans think Sam and Dean have been banging all along and I’m pretty sure that is what he thinks about the Dean and Cas stuff.

To wit, what he was “quashing” was that there is anything “secret” between Dean and Cas - meaning that they are already in a relationship or are already doing the do. He was saying, as I read it (and I reserve the right to amend this once I see video) that there is not more to Dean and Cas than we see on screen. Which is FINE.

4. Observe with your eyes. The cast doesn’t read fic or meta or look at the whole of the show and structure, because they focus on their jobs and, really, who would want to watch themselves with the level of scrutiny that we do? As has been said - Misha was surrpsied by Demon!Dean which was foreshadowed - very intentionally - from the beginning of Season 9, if not before then. Dean and Cas loving each other is in the performances, and in the text and structure (romantic or not) and Jensen and Misha don’t play that love as if it’s secret. Just watch 9.06 - there’s love their, but no secrets. And anyway, how would an actor portray “secretly banging behind closed doors?” That’s so internal and would be boring to watch, and it’s not what we’re seeing anyway.

I hope this was coherent. Sorry if it wasn’t, but nonetheless I am sending anyone who is upset all the hugs and cookies and letting you know my ask is open if you wanna talk.