adymus Profile Joined August 2011 Romania 138 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-08 18:53:39 #1 Man, remember how your folks would harass you about getting ahead in life rather than molting in front of a video game for 42 hours on end? Throw this in your mama's face: Chung-Ang University in South Korea now considers competitive gamers the same as traditional athletes. And it's a top 10 (South Korean) school!





This University Cares About What Truly Matters: Being Good At Gaming

Starting next year, if you are really, really good at video games, you can use your gaming skills…

Read on kotaku.​com

The university will begin accepting eSports applicants starting next year, with students matriculating into the school's Department of Sport Science—previously home to the ball sports you'd generally associate with college athletes.



The move seems a little non-traditional, but let's not forget that South Korea has a robust gaming community that's a bit more mainstream than it is in places like the U.S. Live public gaming tournaments are a spectacle in South Korea, often televised with the kind of fanfare we associate with professional wrestling.



Now that Chung-Ang University is accepting gamer-athletes, we can only hope the next step is a giant badass gaming stadium on campus. [Kotaku via UberGizmo]



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I know thath in the past I know thath in the past http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/New_Star_HoSeo had this format where they let them play , maybe new team soon ? i hope for the best :o3 https://www.twitch.tv/adymustv

mRandy Profile Joined March 2011 Sweden 133 Posts #2 Sounds awesome, hope it works out tho. http://sv.twitch.tv/ulfkennethz

Penguinator Profile Joined December 2010 United States 836 Posts #3 Time to move to Korea Towelie.635

Bigtony Profile Blog Joined June 2011 United States 1133 Posts #4 Wow. That's pretty surprising. From an outsider's point of view it seems like gaming is on a bit of a decline culturally in Korea and not anymore popular with parents than it ever was. Many Korean SC2 pros drop out to return to school or join 'the real world.' Push 2 Harder

adymus Profile Joined August 2011 Romania 138 Posts #5



Whath i would like is to bring more tournaments there and make proleague like in the past .. with many games , so teams must use always more players not like now only some (



Still i bet there are many in Thath game and Dota2 thath try so we will see



I think otherwise , i mean ya with broodwar down they arent focus so much on starcraft , but the Dota 2 scene and thath game nowone likes , they grow , and even SC2 is back with kespa .Whath i would like is to bring more tournaments there and make proleague like in the past .. with many games , so teams must use always more players not like now only someStill i bet there are many in Thath game and Dota2 thath try so we will see https://www.twitch.tv/adymustv

kalstrams Profile Joined July 2011 32 Posts #6

Quite cool university. Quote from Wikipedia: CAU was the first in South Korea to offer courses in Pharmacy, Business Management, Mass Communication, Advertising & Public Relations, Photography, and Drama & Film Studies

Shield Profile Blog Joined August 2009 Bulgaria 4822 Posts #7 It seems like a useless degree to invest in. What are you going to become once you graduate? A caster? A pro gamer? You can do these without a degree. Besides, once you're 30 or older, would you still do gaming? Well, not for a living.

xsnac Profile Blog Joined August 2011 Romania 1268 Posts #8 On June 09 2014 05:39 darkness wrote:

It seems like a useless degree to invest in. What are you going to become once you graduate? A caster? A pro gamer? You can do these without a degree. Besides, once you're 30 or older, would you still do gaming? Well, not for a living.



this pretty much . i find it rly bad aswel .



with the amount of luck involved in gaming in general ...

this pretty much . i find it rly bad aswel .with the amount of luck involved in gaming in general ... i5@ 4,3ghz - 1,25 v

Draconicfire Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 2561 Posts #9 As far as I know this isn't a degree. They're just accepting eSports students as athletes. @Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802

Ensue Profile Joined March 2013 United States 144 Posts #10 On June 09 2014 05:43 xsnac wrote:

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On June 09 2014 05:39 darkness wrote:

It seems like a useless degree to invest in. What are you going to become once you graduate? A caster? A pro gamer? You can do these without a degree. Besides, once you're 30 or older, would you still do gaming? Well, not for a living.



this pretty much . i find it rly bad aswel .



with the amount of luck involved in gaming in general ...

this pretty much . i find it rly bad aswel .with the amount of luck involved in gaming in general ...

It's probably just to attract these kids to give the college their money. :/ It's probably just to attract these kids to give the college their money. :/ “Toast cannot be explained by any rational means. Toast is me. I am toast.” —Margaret Atwood, Oryx and Crake

Shield Profile Blog Joined August 2009 Bulgaria 4822 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-08 21:02:55 #11 On June 09 2014 05:45 Draconicfire wrote:

As far as I know this isn't a degree. They're just accepting eSports students as athletes.



..which is still pretty dumb.



..which is still pretty dumb. OxfordDictionaries gives the following definition: A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise:



Webster dictionary

a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina



Collins dictionary

a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance



Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism. Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism.

musai Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 552 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-08 21:01:08 #12 here we go, this isn't a is e-sports a sport discussion, get that out of here



this is great news if you can go to university on a e-sports scholarship =o

Pwere Profile Joined April 2010 Canada 1534 Posts #13 The title is misleading. They're accepting student athletes specializing in eSports. A track athlete will still major in a regular field, but he'll have the resources to keep competing. You don't major in a sport, you major in something else and represent your university in your discipline, in this case, eSports.



And that's pretty cool.

ExO_ Profile Blog Joined September 2009 United States 2299 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-08 21:04:53 #14 On June 09 2014 05:52 darkness wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 09 2014 05:45 Draconicfire wrote:

As far as I know this isn't a degree. They're just accepting eSports students as athletes.



..which is still pretty dumb.



Show nested quote +

A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise:



Webster dictionary

Show nested quote +

a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina



Collins dictionary

Show nested quote +

a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance



Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism. ..which is still pretty dumb. OxfordDictionaries gives the following definition:Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism.





Though technically correct, I think you're arguing semantics too much. I'm assuming the "athlete" title indicates the school officially recognizes the activity they partcipate in, and might support it to a degree that they support other officially reconized "activities" (sports). While the literal title of athlete my be incorrect, the idea here still stands. Though technically correct, I think you're arguing semantics too much. I'm assuming the "athlete" title indicates the school officially recognizes the activity they partcipate in, and might support it to a degree that they support other officially reconized "activities" (sports). While the literal title of athlete my be incorrect, the idea here still stands.

imre Profile Blog Joined November 2011 France 9126 Posts #15 On June 09 2014 05:52 darkness wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 09 2014 05:45 Draconicfire wrote:

As far as I know this isn't a degree. They're just accepting eSports students as athletes.



..which is still pretty dumb.



Show nested quote +

A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise:



Webster dictionary

Show nested quote +

a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina



Collins dictionary

Show nested quote +

a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance



Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism. ..which is still pretty dumb. OxfordDictionaries gives the following definition:Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism.



even in athleticism you can be overweight and top world zzz. What a way to distord a definition. even in athleticism you can be overweight and top world zzz. What a way to distord a definition. Zest fanboy.

Foxxan Profile Joined October 2004 Sweden 3425 Posts #16 Its time.



Now is the time to create new video games for esport



If this school succeds it will mean it will grow further. Not necessarily schoolwise but more acceptable, more people wanna play video games.



If you make a truly epic video game, you will become rich.

MtlGuitarist97 Profile Blog Joined July 2011 United States 1539 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-08 21:16:20 #17 On June 09 2014 06:06 sAsImre wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 09 2014 05:52 darkness wrote:

On June 09 2014 05:45 Draconicfire wrote:

As far as I know this isn't a degree. They're just accepting eSports students as athletes.



..which is still pretty dumb.



A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise:



Webster dictionary

a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina



Collins dictionary

a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance



Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism. ..which is still pretty dumb. OxfordDictionaries gives the following definition:Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism.



even in athleticism you can be overweight and top world zzz. What a way to distord a definition. even in athleticism you can be overweight and top world zzz. What a way to distord a definition.

Not to derail the thread, but defining athleticism as not being overweight is retarded. Although being leaner is never bad, there are situations where additional strength/force production (power) is benefited by having additional mass. Think of American football and how linemen who are larger and faster will always be at an advantage over someone who is equally as fast and as strong, but is smaller. eSports are more of a competition akin to that of track & field or swimming or weightlifting. They're good tests of fitness and strength, but they don't necessarily require the "athletic" ability of a sport. I think that his point was that the pro-gamers who are overweight don't exhibit any of those skills (strength, speed, endurance, agility, etc.) because they lead primarily sedentary lives. The impact this has on pro-gamers and the perception of eSports is an interesting discussion, but it's not really the focus of this thread unfortunately.



Anyway, the title is pretty misleading. It's kind of cool but I don't really understand why it's that big of a deal. I hope that something like this helps to promote the good eSports creates and helps to relieve some of the stigma of being into video games as a kid in high school and even younger. Not to derail the thread, but defining athleticism as not being overweight is retarded. Although being leaner is never bad, there are situations where additional strength/force production (power) is benefited by having additional mass. Think of American football and how linemen who are larger and faster will always be at an advantage over someone who is equally as fast and as strong, but is smaller. eSports are more of a competition akin to that of track & field or swimming or weightlifting. They're good tests of fitness and strength, but they don't necessarily require the "athletic" ability of a sport. I think that his point was that the pro-gamers who are overweight don't exhibit any of those skills (strength, speed, endurance, agility, etc.) because they lead primarily sedentary lives. The impact this has on pro-gamers and the perception of eSports is an interesting discussion, but it's not really the focus of this thread unfortunately.Anyway, the title is pretty misleading. It's kind of cool but I don't really understand why it's that big of a deal. I hope that something like this helps to promote the good eSports creates and helps to relieve some of the stigma of being into video games as a kid in high school and even younger.

shabby Profile Joined March 2010 Norway 6402 Posts #18 On June 09 2014 05:39 darkness wrote:

It seems like a useless degree to invest in. What are you going to become once you graduate? A caster? A pro gamer? You can do these without a degree. Besides, once you're 30 or older, would you still do gaming? Well, not for a living.



So in line with philosophy, drama, art, psychology (not clinical), sociology and so on.. Most non-science degrees are pretty "useless" in that they just create more teachers and people end up working with something unrelated or something that would require a bachelors at best. Why is this different? Let people do what they wanna do. So in line with philosophy, drama, art, psychology (not clinical), sociology and so on.. Most non-science degrees are pretty "useless" in that they just create more teachers and people end up working with something unrelated or something that would require a bachelors at best. Why is this different? Let people do what they wanna do. Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun

Mikau Profile Blog Joined October 2010 Netherlands 925 Posts #19 On June 09 2014 06:03 ExO_ wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 09 2014 05:52 darkness wrote:

On June 09 2014 05:45 Draconicfire wrote:

As far as I know this isn't a degree. They're just accepting eSports students as athletes.



..which is still pretty dumb.



A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise:



Webster dictionary

a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina



Collins dictionary

a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance



Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism. ..which is still pretty dumb. OxfordDictionaries gives the following definition:Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism.





Though technically correct, I think you're arguing semantics too much. I'm assuming the "athlete" title indicates the school officially recognizes the activity they partcipate in, and might support it to a degree that they support other officially reconized "activities" (sports). While the literal title of athlete my be incorrect, the idea here still stands. Though technically correct, I think you're arguing semantics too much. I'm assuming the "athlete" title indicates the school officially recognizes the activity they partcipate in, and might support it to a degree that they support other officially reconized "activities" (sports). While the literal title of athlete my be incorrect, the idea here still stands.

Finger strength and agility conforms to at least the 2nd and 3rd definition. You could make a case for the first as well. I wouldn't go as far as saying pro gamers are athletes or that esports should be considered a sport, but just throwing in dictionary definitions doesn't help at all. Finger strength and agility conforms to at least the 2nd and 3rd definition. You could make a case for the first as well. I wouldn't go as far as saying pro gamers are athletes or that esports should be considered a sport, but just throwing in dictionary definitions doesn't help at all.

viasacra89 Profile Joined January 2012 United States 128 Posts #20 On June 09 2014 05:52 darkness wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 09 2014 05:45 Draconicfire wrote:

As far as I know this isn't a degree. They're just accepting eSports students as athletes.



..which is still pretty dumb.



Show nested quote +

A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise:



Webster dictionary

Show nested quote +

a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina



Collins dictionary

Show nested quote +

a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance



Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism. ..which is still pretty dumb. OxfordDictionaries gives the following definition:Let's not name specific gamers but the ones that are overweight surely don't respect the above requirement. Also I know it's a hugely debatable topic but it may be relevant to be discussed here: e-sports should be viewed as a 'mental' sport (or activity) not athleticism.



If chess is recognized as a sport by the Olympic Committee, I don't really see the problem with esports becoming a sport. Definitions change, there's no need to get anal about it. If chess is recognized as a sport by the Olympic Committee, I don't really see the problem with esports becoming a sport. Definitions change, there's no need to get anal about it.

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