Discussing politics with Republicans can be highly frustrating. Unless they have made the effort to inform themselves from multiple independent sources, their version of facts is not the same as mine, removing any common ground for discussion. Most have not, and most of those who have aren’t Republicans anymore. The reason is that Fox, the Republican Ministry of Propaganda, invents facts to support their positions, much like war criminals Bush, Cheney invented facts to “fix the intelligence around the policy”. But some of tha facts that Republicans believe are so outlandish that one mist question the sanity of anyone who believes them.

Ray Edroso wrote an excellent piece addressing ten of these Republican “facts”.

As you may have noticed by following their writings, conservatives are not sticklers for historical accuracy, especially when they have a point to defend and not a lot of evidence to support it…

…I’ve picked out 10 such ideas that are widespread enough to qualify. (In the nomenclature I have treated "Republican" and "conservative" as synonyms because, come on.)

10. The Robber Barons weren’t robbers — they were capitalist heroes.

The overarching task of the conservative historian is to rehabilitate the image of capitalism, even at its most red-toothed and -clawed. Not a hard job, as both our history and culture ceaselessly celebrate the innovative dynamism of American business.

But one of the rare areas in which history teachers are allowed to criticize unfettered capitalism is the Gilded Age of the "robber barons" — Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Fisk, et al. These men, many of whom first rose to prominence through unseemly wartime speculation, built enormous fortunes on the exceedingly generous terms of the times, which included bribery, monopolies, and stock manipulation, perverting the alleged power of the free market on their own behalf. They were kind of like the Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers of their day — except they never got caught.

Most of us still look on this as a shameful thing. But historians of the conservative-libertarian persuasion such as Thomas E. Woods [propaganda delinked], Lawrence W. Reed [propaganda delinked], and Thomas J. DiLorenzo [propaganda delinked] (better known now as a neo-Confederate [racist pigs delinked]) look at the robber barons’ dirty records and ask: So what? J.P. Morgan built a nice library!

They tend to skirt the smelly stuff, and talk instead about how Carnegie’s machinations drove down the price of steel — surely you’re not against low prices? And if Jay Gould and Cornelius Vanderbilt paid off legislators to acquire land for their railroads, the railroads got built, and that’s what counts.

Why do they so eagerly defend the robber barons even at their worst? Maybe because, as economist Brad DeLong has noted, the grotesque inequity in American wealth that characterized their era has only one equivalent in U.S. history — that of our own time. And if one’s business is excusing the perfidy and criminality of today’s speculators and swindlers, it is helpful to make heroes of the speculators and swindlers who are their models.

9. Sputnik bankrupted the Soviet Union.

This one comes from the top of the conservative food chain: Sarah Palin [Fox delinked]. In her Fox News rebuttal to President Obama’s recent State of the Union, Palin said that the Russians’ "victory in that race to space… incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union."

It has been pointed out that Palin’s version of history is confused on many points. But don’t tell that to conservatives. Among them, Palin’s charisma is so overweening that her bizarre POV is yet defended — in some cases, on the grounds that her "larger and more important point about history" [propaganda delinked] was misunderstood (which then mutated into "Palin was right"), and in others just because, as a poster at Lucianne Goldberg’s site [rabid right delinked] put it, "The left will have puppies because of it."… [emphasis added]