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FROSTWell, this is one of the most fascinating things about hoarding is that in many ways, the types of attachments people have, people with hoarding problems, are no different than the attachments the rest of us have with our objects or our possessions. For all of us, possessions have a magical quality. So for instance, the ticket stub that -- from a favorite concert has a value to you that goes beyond the physical characteristics of that ticket stub. The emotion that's wrapped up in that ticket stub does not exist in the physical object itself, but in your head. So the value you place on it is a value that in some ways is magical because the object itself has -- does not have that value.