Carl Gallups is a right-wing Christian pastor, conspiracy theorist, and was a frequent speaker at Trump rallies during the 2016 campaign. So it shouldn’t be surprising to hear that he has some *unique* views when it comes to women and sexual assault, but try and wrap your head around this one.

On his radio program this Friday, Gallups interviewed Mike Shoesmith, who recently argued in a Facebook post that women who dress provocatively around men are guilty of sexual assault.

If a woman wears sexually suggestive clothing around a man is that not also sexual assault? Men are visually stimulated and unwanted stimulation should meet the basic definition of assault. I am not condoning bad behavior by men but women need to understand that by walking around in their little sister’s skirt they are guilty of indecent visual assault on a man’s imagination which does cause mental anguish and torment especially on men who really are trying to live in harmony and respect toward women; something made more difficult when every ripple and curve are exposed to the men around you. Something to think about.

“Men are visually stimulated and unwanted stimulation should meet the basic definition of assault,” Shoesmith told Gallups, adding that women who dress in a sexy manner are “guilty of indecent visual assault on a man’s imagination, which does cause mental anguish and torment.”

“When a man sees a naked or partially dressed woman, a chemical reaction happens in his brain,” he continued. “Neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin are released, giving him an involuntary surge of pleasure. Notice the word ‘involuntary’ … Men are in a state of constant sexual assault by women who either don’t understand the severity of what they are doing, because it’s cute and they like the attention, or worse, they do know the feelings it stirs and like the control they have over men.”

Gallups chimed in, saying that if a man paraded around the workplace in a “sexually suggestive outfit,” he would immediately be accused of sexual harassment.

“We are just discussing what should be obvious,” Gallups said. “The science supports us in it.”

“Men are responsible for fighting off this chemical sexual assault in their brains,” Shoesmith added. “Men are responsible for fighting that off every day.”

You can listen to the interview at Right Wing Watch.

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