“Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life”

Post by happyghost

Gentlemen,

Some of you may recall a few months back, either on the now-defunct DGM2 board or here, perhaps both, a plea was made for anyone who had archived the classic, huge thread from years ago that was entitled “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life”, from a forum on the old website f***edcompany.com. Apparently the thread is now “lost”, and seems to exist nowhere on the web anymore.

You may also recall that I said, at the time, that I had spent many hours reading portions of this thread out of the Google cache of it (the thread was gone from the website itself). That Google cache is now long gone, as well. I may have mentioned that, although at the time I read it the Google cache was missing a good amount of the enormous number of pages in the thread, I had read through all the available pages and had cut and pasted the best posts into a text file as I went. This eliminated all the crappy posts, and all the pointless bickering (some feminists really got into attack mode), and preserved only the BEST posts for posterity.

You may also recall that I said that I had this text file somewhere, in some old backups, but that I hadn’t located it.

Well, I just located it!

Below is that text file. As I said, all the “noise” was not included, leaving only the good stuff. In addition, whenever people made worthwhile replies to earlier posts, I appended those replies to the end of the post to which they referred, with a header like “REPLY”, “REPLY 2”, etc. separating the original post from the reply/replies. All posts (with their replies included) are separated from each other by a short line of dashes (“—————–“).

I am going to paste the entire text file that I compiled in a series of posts below this one.

Hopefully this thread can be “stickied”, or permanently archived somewhere, for the good of all young men visiting this site who are considering marriage.

Here we go!

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life

Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:19pm

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Best Comments from an Internet Discussion Thread Entitled:

“Married Men, Post Here If You Hate Your Life”

Original source: fuckedcompany.com forum

This best-of document compiled: October 2006.

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I think most women can’t help trying to control their husbands – the irony is that they are

increasingly miserable and insecure if they succeed. Deep down they don’t like being bitches,

start despising their husband’s weakness and feel insecure because it’s like they are their

husband’s mother while he is a child, leaving them the only adult in the house.

IMO women’s attempts to control their husbands are an instinctively motivated test of his

strength and character. Deep down they want the man to rise to their challenge, not give in.

Giving in to them all the time brings out their worst while standing up to them in a

fair-handed way brings out their best, IMO. Their negative tendencies are reined in instead

of encouraged.

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They can’t help it. Women are naturally attracted to, and attach to, dominant men. So be

one.

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Modern marriage is nothing but relationship insurance for women. When they get married, they

can have their kids which further keep you in check.

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the only chance a man has to be happy with his wife is if he does stand up to her. Over time

the nagging, moods, etc greatly lessen if you make sure those tactics are the one sure way

she never gets her way.

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Most of us don’t “talk things out before” because things are ideal. You have a lot of sex,

and you do what we want. So what’s to talk about?

We were young and stupid, and didn’t realize the wedding cake was laced with Dr. Jekyll’s

secret formula.

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[Marriage is] like serving time in prison with a big fat cellmate who DOESN’T want to have

sex with you.

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let me be more to the point: there are plenty of men that are married, live like they did

when they were single, and still get head when they want…

The difference between us and your type: we control our wives, yours control you…

you = momma’s boy…

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I know plenty of married guys who let their wives walk all over them. I also know married

guys who call the shots in almost everything in their marriage. I know a few guys who have a

very even and fair relationship with their wives.

With that said, I have no sympathy for the guys who let their wives walk all over them. They

let it happen and then bitch and moan about it like the pussies they are.

The guys who call the shots are the most confident men I know. Their wives like them being in

control and respect them for it. These guys will bitch and moan about stuff sometimes, but

it’s not too often

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You just read my mind. My marriage is destroying me. I don’t know if I can ever regain my

happiness. Thinking back on my life the other day, I realized that I was actually a happy

person once. I loved life, I enjoyed other people’s company, I had hopes and dreams. It

almost startled me to realize that was me instead of another person I was jealous of.

REPLY:

So just start being that old you. She was attracted to that old you.

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The bottom line is this: Women don’t know what the fuck they really want.

Guys are so fucking simple. We know EXACTLY what we want: Sex or blow jobs about 3 or 4 times

a week, a good pizza or burger every now and then, and about one day a week that we can go do

stuff that we like, whether it’s poker or golf or what have you. How hard is that to

understand?

Women, on the other hand, have NO CLUE what they want. They’ve been told they can have it

all, that they need to be this or that, that they need to do this or that. I don’t think may

of them honestly know what it is they want. They only know what it is they don’t have.

REPLY:

you hit it on the head. they don’t know, but they sure feel like whatever it is, it’s not

enough, life sucks, and they need to take their unhappiness out on you.

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Marriage is for women, not men.

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All married men who are sober are miserable to one degree or another. Successful marriages

are made by the man convincing himself he’s not as unhappy as he knows he is.

Question: Why do men die before their wives?

Answer: Because they want to.

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Face it, women are selfish.

All the wedding and receptions I see know are really just a celebration by the woman for the

glorification of herself.

What guy would go spend $20 grand or more on a wedding. Fuck, we’d buy a monster big screen

TV and power tools for the basement.

American woman are so selfish they really don’t give a fuck about the man. To them its all

about me me me and you better work harder to give it to them.

Thank God I’m not married, but I look at friends who are and just go “You poor bastard”.

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I know 2 guys. Both make good money, are good looking, and great dads. Their wives are

depressed, putting on weight, don’t work outside the home, want him to take the kids or start

working as soon as he walks in the door. One goes out and gets massages and her nails done,

also want a cleaning lady. Like WTF, is this some sort of full time vacation for her? Man,

the dudes are like perfect husbands and they treat them like dirt.

I feel sorry for you bastards. I know, it hurts I don’t have kids, but that can be a fantasy

gone bad too these days. Just go to any mall.

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For 19 years I’ve been tracking married couples where I work, people I socialize with, etc.

85% or so – the women have become fat sexless hogs and the men are miserable.

If you have one of the 15%, be thankful on a daily basis.

I’ve been fucking other women for 13 years. I warned her she was not cutting me off, but

losing her place in line.

choose your mistresses very carefully and you will find there is plenty of sweet pussy out

there still eager to fuck you.

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My wife was a complete off the wall fuck machine before we got married. Fun, energetic,

beautiful.

Now? Overweight, tired all the time, and forget a goddamn blowjob.

Counting down the days…oh yes indeed.

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Early in my marriage I found that I got the best behavior from my wife immediately after a

fight in which I raised my voice and told her with authority that her behavior was not

appropriate.

She would start an argument usually by refusing to do something which we had previously

agreed was her responsibility, or sometimes by speaking to me inappropriately. At first, I

would try to address the subject reasonably, explaining the reasons why whatever she did was

wrong.

Eventually, I figured out that she knew damn well whatever she did to start the fight was

wrong. She was just waiting for me to call her on it. A sort of test.

We get along much better now. I think part of the problem is that I was raised without a dad,

and my mom was a very strong figure who always told me that marriage was an equal

partnership, etc. I’ve found this to be true in a way, but not the way I thought.

Marriage is definitely a partnership, but both partners must acknowledge that gender roles

are absolutely necessary to make it work. You can’t have a marriage of two neuters, the

dynamic just doesn’t lend itself to a long-term happy couple. There has to be a man, and a

woman.

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They eat while the man is at work. They’re like the Terminator going after food instead

of Sarah Conner. They never stop. They can’t be reasoned with!

in a similar thread a while back, some guy describes his obese, couch potato wife as “a piece

of furniture that talks and never shuts up”

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This thread is great, I am not done with it yet – we are cleaning house from top to bottom –

but, I have to say, all the advice about standing up to your wife, even if you are wrong – is

100% wisdom.

However, if it turns out that you were wrong, say you are sorry.

That being said, women want you to stand up to them.

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A comedian did a bit once about men and women.

Men are like dogs: You know EXACTLY what they like, what they want, and how they will react

to whatever you do.

Women are like cats: There is no fucking way to tell what they want, and if you do one thing

one day, there is no guarantee that they will react the same way the next time you do it.

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I got lucky…but I cannot guarantee the 26y/o guys I work with that they will have the same

results. Most seem to be considering pampered bitches as wives. This is not good. I can’t

stand spending 5 minutes in a room with these women. They are very materialistic and

self-centered.

Most of my 40-ish buddies are very unhappy or divorced outright. The entire situation is

rather bleak.

I consider myself lucky. When I got married, I had no idea of what I was getting into. You

think you know… but NO ONE can predict 10..20 years into the future. It is a total crapshoot.

I got lucky. I admit that freely.

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Handle your business and be calm and rational. Do not allow yourself to get fucked over to

avoid confrontation. If you can stay calm enough about disagreements to be a little playful

about them, this is ideal. Women *love* guys like that.

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Your (everyone who has posted in this thread thus far) problem is that you unconsciously need

a female’s approval. That when she simply refuses to give you “approval” you give in.

Dump that need for approval and tell your unconscious Little Boy to go fuck himself.

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OK, I’ve got problems with my wife, but the solution to this one is quite simple: DO IT

ANYWAY.

The reason you “can’t” is because you are afraid. Sorry, but it’s just that simple. Afraid of

her, afraid of the consequences, afraid of the disapproval of yet another strong woman – I

don’t know, but you have to get over it.

Here’s what you do:

Months ahead of your planed trip, you TELL her: “honey, I’m planning our yearly fishing trip

for June 7-14. Any conflicts I should know about, because I’m making reservations today.”

(using active language puts YOU in control. Getting the all clear from her gets you off the

hook from any “surprises” that might pop up.)

As the months go buy, she will no doubt bait you into arguments, give you guilt trips etc.

The BEST tactic is to simply IGNORE her. DO NOT get drawn into a battle. If she’s in a pissy

mood, and says nothing is wrong, well then act as if nothing is wrong, This is my #1

technique for staying in control.

When you leave on the trip, LEAVE HER BEHIND. Put all her pissing whining and guilt tripping

out of your head and have fun, It will be there when you get back, trust me.

Guys the only way a woman can control you is if you LET her. Truth.

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I’ve been married for ten years, and it sucks, a lot. I love my kids, but my wife is a

control freak and a bitch, and her main mission in life seems to be to grind me down into

some sort of Stepford Hub. As an example, I went to pick up my daughter at a birthday party

over the weekend. For once, the people throwing the party didn’t have a lot of money, and it

was a smallish, sort of cheap house, with a few kids in the back yard swimming in an

above-ground pool, which was deep enough for them to swim, but not so deep they could get

into any trouble. For once, the party wasn’t some frantic, ubermommy running around trying to

outdo her friends. My daughter had spent two or three hours swimming in the pool, and had a

blast. So when I got home, I told my wife that it was a great party, the best I’d ever seen,

and she got all pissed because I apparently had implied that the party she was going to throw

in a week for my daughter wouldn’t be as good, and wasn’t that insensitive of me, and so on.

I wish I had not married her, except for the kids. The thing I learned is that power is a

really important thing in marriage. Once they realize you have the power, women are far, far

nicer to you. It’s fucked, but they are. As for those who are considering marriage, do it if

you want kids, but remain in control, and don’t let her even think about trying to change

you.

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A statistical impossibility for ALL the men in this thread to have married the “wrong woman”.

A simple truism is that you really can’t “tell” who the person is before you marry them. At

that point the green felt on the blackjack table is redone and the new hand dealt is one that

is unlikely to work in your favor.

Thus, for a man to get married simply because he friends are getting married or that he wants

to show his girlfriend that he truly loves her is a foolish man, indeed.

The main reason why men get married in the first place is because he is with the first woman

who excites him and gives him exclusive and consistent access to her overrated pussy. In a

moment of irrational, unclear thought he decides that marriage is for him and then he enters

into an agreement where the odds are stacked against him.

In most cases of marriage, the sizzle quickly subsides and normalcy sets. Predictability is a

killer for romance and a destroyer of sexual relations, and that’s what is likely to happen.

Once the divorce papers are filed (twice as likely for the woman to file than the man in the

U.S.) the man is likely to lose access to his children and will probably have to pay for

child support and alimony.

Thus, it is in a man’s best interest to put off marriage for as long as he can unless he

absolutely wants to have children.

Choosing the “wrong woman” is chick logic as it assumes that there is a soul mate or a male’s

anima in biological form waiting out there to be “found”. Such a thing is unlikely and to

presume it can happen is foolhardy.

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Women will try to change you, it’s inevitable. What you can do at the minimum is look like

you are alpha. Speak loudly, stomp, make noise, don’t take any shit. If she yells, yell back

so she knows you won’t take that. At the same time, take care of responsibilities before she

thinks about them.

Only then will you have a ‘happy’ marriage.

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Guys, you need to understand something. It’s very simple.

Women only love you to the extent that they need you. Once they don’t need you any more, you

are history.

So when I married, I used a very simple strategy: I married a very nice woman who I knew for

a fact could never build her own career. She wasn’t quite a “smart” as I wanted, but she was

sweet and a great artist. 10 years later, she depends on me, I’m the sole breadwinner. She

raises the kids. Very old-fashioned. Is is still difficult to be married? Hell yes. But she’s

not divorcing me any time soon, and when I stand my ground in a fight, she listens. Because,

frankly, she needs my earning ability.

That is the secret of a successful marriage. And that is why, over the centuries, societies

have discouraged women from having careers. Because women who are financially independent

turn into total fucking jerks who fuck over not only men, but everybody in their way. Women

are, by genetic design, totally and completely incapable of being trusted with independent

power. They are selfish to the core, designed that way my Mother nature to help them cope

with the stress of the insanely difficult job of raising children. Under certain conditions,

that selfishness works fine for everybody…for example, when they are dependant on a man for

breadwinning.

Power corrupts, and in this is no different for women than for anybody else. Everybody needs

something to keep them in line. Everybody, without some controls on them, turns into a jerk.

So in our modern society, women have been relieved of essentially ALL social control. They

can do any fucking thing they want to the men in their lives, with no consequences. They can

even gun them down, claim it was self-protection, and get away free.

It’s no surprise then that women are such heartless, horrible swinish louts in today’s

society. They are allowed to let their selfishness, petulance, sexual power, and

self-absorption run WILD and you bet, this turns them into awful human beings.

So again, Men, what can you do? Whatever you do, avoid a woman who is “perfect”. Who makes a

lot of money. Who is extremely beautiful. Who is a fuck machine. All of those things will

make her seem desirable to you, but strangely, those are exactly the things that will make

her a lousy wife.

You aren’t marrying a woman because she is the BEST. You are marrying her because she will be

a good wife…to YOU. Think about that.

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What I would do, if I could do it differently, is get a woman who is dependent on me. Men

understand the responsibilities of power, women do not, as you said. Get a woman who listens

to you and obeys you and you’ll do what nature intended – have a happy loving family.

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When I first got married, and when I was younger, I spent a huge amount of time and effort

trying to do the right thing. I would listen patiently to some woman’s problems, I would try

to help my wife talk about her issues when she was pissed off at me, etc. It didn’t work.

Donald Rumsfeld said once that “Weakness is provocative” and he was absolutely right, at

least with respect to women. Women understand and respect power, when they see it, and will

then allow themselves to treat you reasonably. If they see a lack of it, they will abuse you.

Men aren’t like that, typically. If a man sees another man who’s weak, he’ll ignore him, but

he won’t abuse him. Women will. You have to be very careful about paying serious attentions

to the accusations your wife makes, putting up with bullshit, etc. Women are incredibly

skilled at allowing their own emotional state to be the only thing that matters in making a

decision — you know, “I cheated on you because I wasn’t getting my needs met, which makes it

okay.” They’re a lot less likely to do this if they know you can leave them, and bankrupt

them. Woman are also not too rational — they’re not big on thinking about consequences. Men

are.

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Best advice I ever got, from Stanley Bing actually. When you have a fight with your

wife…FIGHT HARD. DON’T back down. You are doing her, yourself, and the world a disservice

if you do.

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[In response to a 36-year-old man considering marriage]: Never get married. You’re finally at

the age where life starts getting really good: You can date a girl half your age and it’s

LEGAL!!!

From my experience, the 10-15 years age difference in a “more sophisticated” woman hasn’t made

any difference in anything. Women are now perpetual teenagers who never grow up, so you may

as well get the body that matches the mind.

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Would you want to live with a retard for ten years? Because that’s what a kid is, a really

stupid person who doesn’t know shit.

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That’s just luck. A lot of men do everything “right” and when they marry are sure their SO is

rational, loving, into sex, etc. Whether the woman stays like that is down to luck – all a

man’s judgment and actions do is maximize his chances of success. A lot of women put on their

best face before marriage at the subconscious level and stop making the effort afterward.

They don’t even do this consciously, so they seem to actually BE better women beforehand,

rather than putting on an act. It can be almost impossible to see this kind of thing coming.

If a woman, for whatever reason, changes or decides she is no longer satisfied in marriage,

the man is screwed. He doesn’t need to actually do anything wrong.

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So you call their bluff. You’d think going without sex for a while was some kind of

intolerable torture. Pop in a porn. Rub one out. You’ll survive and you’ll have cut off that

source of power she has over you.

Freedom always comes at a price – pay it willingly.

The irony is that if withholding sex gets her what she wants with you, she’ll only do it more

often. Make it irrelevant to her getting what she wants and she’ll stop using that tactic.

You’re just creating a rod for your own back with your short-sightedness. Think with the big

head for a change.

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Marriage for a man these days is handing a woman an axe, then putting his head on a chopping

block in the trust that she won’t cut it off. She doesn’t do the same for him.

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Women have no idea what they want, they need to be told and controlled. If you are too nice or

become apathetic, you are fucking doomed. Either way, if you get married, you are doomed.

Women are cunts, and they are absolute masters of mental torture and abuse. If we simply

hired bitches to interrogate and torture all captured terrorists, the war on terror would be

over in less than a year.

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this part bears repeating a million times. The ideal marriage promoted by educated women, the

partnership of ‘equals’, is a recipe for misery.

As a man you must have the upper hand. Marry an equal and your sex drive will give her the

edge since she can do without sex longer than you can.

A dependent woman is a good woman.

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Just wanted to reiterate how, after my recent divorce (check a few pages back), fucking

inspired I am by all you tards. I never thought I’d say it, but this is really a great forum

for shit like this.

My advice for all you beaten down, miserable guys stuck with some fucking twinkie-eatin’,

american-idol/extreme-makeover-watchin’, annoying bitchy cunt is GET THE FUCK OUT.

Take your life back. I’m not tooting my own shit, but since I’ve gotten divorced, I’ve gotten

into 2 MBA schools (haven’t picked yet), played in 7 beach volleyball tournaments, and about

3 months into a fucking marathon training program. Yes, I miss the easy, consistent quality

sex. No, I do not miss just about anything else.

This is YOUR life tards. One shot, no “do-overs,” are you *REALLY* gonna spend it with some

unhappy fucking cunt? FUCK THAT. Reclaim it. Do all the shit you always wanted to do. The

pussy will COME to you. Make your move.

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I’m tired of fucking by a script. We’re allowed to fuck in certain positions that are to come

in a certain order. There are to be no deviations from the script. Ever. (It goes without

saying there are no blowjobs in the script.) It bores me to tears.

I’d way rather jack off, which is pretty much what I do these days. If I jack off I can at

least fantasize about some fucking variety.

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I showed the thread page to a friend at work, and he laughed his ass off.

Number of postings on a thread about Rove: 12.

Number of postings on a thread about Iraq: 22

Number of postings on a thread about movies: 7

Number of postings on a thread asking how many married guys hate their life: 500.

[Note: I believe it eventually went up to about 7,000!]

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No sex is worth putting up with a fucking cunt who uses it to grind you down.

Reply:

Clarify what you mean by “grind you down.”

Reply to reply:

It’s a long term grind. Putdowns. Undermining your every move. Taking cheap little shots to

humiliate you in front of your friends.

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I just wanted to re-iterate something. It’s not that women love you because they need you.

Their love IS their need. They are the same thing. That is all their love is. They invented

the word “love” and replaced it over the more honest fact of their need, and surrounded it

with all this fictional bullshit, a hundred years back, to better trick men like you into

committing to things without knowing what you’re getting into.

They don’t love “you” at all. They love the image of you, what you provide to them that they

want or need, what fantasy number you can help them check off of their internal list.

If you look at a women’s life…her series of lovers that she takes…the high-school

boyfriend, the college professor fling, the Harley-driving boyfriend, the rich stock broker

boyfriend, the solid child-raising husband…

All of the guys she “loves” are just a set of internal fantasy men that she has in her head

from adolescence. When she finds a convenient guy who happens to fit a fantasy, she acquires

him, experiences him, fucks him, whatever, so she can check off one row of her mental list of

fantasy conquest boyfriends. In most cases if you ask her what the guy was actually LIKE,

what he thought, what he cared about, etc, it’s unlikely she even noticed. His actual

thoughts were irrelevant. His wants and needs, his dreams, weren’t something she was even

conscious of, except to the extent that his dreams were part of her fantasy of him. He wasn’t

really a human being at all, in her view.

Many women really view men as horses, and they are the riders. High-strung, maybe beautiful

horses yes, but in the end, just animals to help them achieve their goals.

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Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life

Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:28pm

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Semonides of Amorgos, The Types of Women, c. 550 B.C.:

Zeus made this supreme evil—woman: even though she seem to be a blessing, when a man has

wedded one she becomes a plague.

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A woman is like a vampire. She will suck the joy out of your and leave you a shriveled husk

of a man. But she must; that’s how she survives. Getting married is like agreeing to live in

a vampire’s coffin for all eternity.

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I was driving back from a meeting this morning, thinking about my wife, and I really wanted

to go home, and simply beat the living shit out of her. I have been supporting everyone for

years, working my ass off, and my wife has not done one single fucking thing to make my life

easier, to encourage me, or to help me with anything that’s bugging me. She’s on the PTA, the

board of her preschool, she teaches art at the elementary school, is involved in a book club,

and on and on and on. Her calendar is ridiculous. But I am some kind of fucking afterthought.

I’m the engine that powers this entire thing, and I haven’t gotten laid in months. She takes

care of the children during the week, fine. But we have a housecleaner, because actually

cleaning the fucking house is beneath her. We take shirts to the dry cleaner, because she

couldn’t possibly iron them. Clean laundry is in piles in the garage, because she can’t be

expected to fold it. On weekends, I’m apparently her assistant. I can’t wait for Sunday night

to come, when I can get out and head back to the office. And every day there’s some new

example of truly shitty behavior — a bad attitude for any human. For example, last night she

was at her fucking PTA meeting, which ran from 7 until 11. I went to bed, and had just turned

the light out when she shows up at the front door, and starts ringing the fucking doorbell.

She didn’t have her keys. She then informed me that she never does. I pointed out that having

keys to your own house might be a smart thing to do. And she acts like that’s some kind of

major insult, and then launches into a description of what happened at this meeting. I

stopped her, and said something like “You know, I was in bed and almost asleep, and you got

me up.” It didn’t even occur to her that a) I would actually mind being jerked out of bed by

the doorbell; b) I wasn’t interested in a blow-by-blow at that moment.

Finally, after years of this, the truth is starting to sink in, and I’m devolving into this

serious, angry person to be around. All the normal, considerate stuff I used to do I don’t. I

don’t talk to her unless I have to, and not any longer than necessary. She catches me looking

at her sometimes, and the expression she sees on my face frightens her, I think. Somewhere

along in here, she’s going to ask me if something’s wrong, and I’m going to start screaming

at her. I’ve tried marriage counseling. I’ve tried listening, and giving, and being nice.

Now, I’m going to try fear and intimidation.

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She refuses to work. She always has some excuse. She’s depressed, she won’t make a lot of

money, I make enough for both of us, she takes care of the house (not really). It’s one

fucking thing after another. So I just save myself the trouble and don’t bring it up anymore.

Fucking bloodsucking cunt.

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My life sucks but my wife certainly doesn’t.

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11 years. My wife is currently out a Wal Mart buying worthless plastic shit. She’s 70 lbs

overweight. If it wasn’t for the kids I would kick her fat ass to the curb.

REPLY:

Do it now you stupid fuck!

Save yourself!

I have been married 38 years, two years ago I checked with an attorney and if we split up you

know what she gets?

She gets EVERYTHING.

Know what I get?

I get NOTHING.

Yeah, you will have child support but you will also be bying the 27 years I fucking

squandered.

DO IT!

Pleasssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee do it!

Save yourself and you will thank me later.

—————–

I also agree the best way to reduce the bullshit from a wife is to stand up to her the first

time and every time. Love her or not, it’s important to demonstrate that you could live

without her.

—————–

I used to have friends. Till I got married.

I used to have fun. Till I got married.

I used to have money. Till I got married.

Someone get me a gun. I’d rather be buried.

—————–

The biggest problem I see is men getting married “because she wants to”. That is automatic

disaster, no exceptions.

Only get married if it’s YOUR DECISION and if you’re over 25 years old and it’s NOT just

because she’s good in bed (that’s a terrible reason)

—————-

I make it work, but only within the context of the shittiest existence I can imagine in terms

of what I expected in marriage versus what I got.

What I expected: laughter, doing everything together (from boring bill-paying to swing dance

lessons to movies on the couch to Sunday morning papers to buying tampons to medical problems

when they arose to whispered sweet nothings to deciding on a new sink for the kitchen to…),

great sex for life, growing old together, dying while looking into her eyes.

What I got: a woman who after marriage instantly turned into a shrewish whining nagging

sexless frigid materialistic petty manipulative cunt who only cares about how much money I

make, constantly upgrading her fucking wedding diamond (it’s now 3.67 carats), and spending

my cash on clothes from N-M, goddamn fucking window treatments from some specialty shop, and

endless fucking shit from Pottery Barn that has nothing to do with my life or our life.

Biggest mistake? Should’ve spent more than 4 years getting to know her. Should’ve not let the

great sex cloud my mind. Goddamn it all to hell.

—————–

To those who aren’t married, one key thing: Take a good look at the girl’s mother. She will,

invariably, become just like her mother. You’ll want to believe this isn’t the case for your

sweet little thing. You’re wrong. Completely wrong. Bank on it.

—————–

What a bunch of whiny pussy whipped shitheads. I’ve been married for over 25 years and I have

full control of everything. How did I do it? Easy, just adopt an attitude of, “hey, if you

don’t like it, there’s the fucking door”.

This attitude has served my marriage well. My wife thinks I’m one step away from walking out,

and she treats me like a king. Of course I treat her with respect and don’t rub it in her

face, but she knows that in the end, I run the show. We get along just fine.

Get a grip you fucking pussies.

—————–

Look.

I’ve spent a couple of years studying this and thinking about it. I am not going to spend my

life like this. Here are a few things I’ve learned:

1) Women respect power. They will never admit it or even know it, but that’s what they

respond to. Period.

2) Women don’t know what they want.

3) A lot of women aren’t actually very smart.

4) We are living in a culture that systematically degrades men. If there was a female Homer

Simpson character, there’d be a civil war.

5) Read the following books:

“No More Mr. Nice Guy”

“What Men Know and Women Don’t”

“The Manipulated Man”

The whole society has, at this point, devolved to the point that you accept that you’re

supposed to be this kind of infantilized miserable wife-assistant. It’s actually not funny.

Fix it.

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this is the big problem: WOMEN ALWAYS CHANGE post marriage — men generally DO NOT

REPLY:

TRUE!!! And the funniest part is that we men get married thinking that the woman WON’T change

and they get married thinking how they WILL change the man!

——————

My plan is to live with a woman to see what it’s like. If she’s intolerable, then I’m outta

there.

REPLY:

She won’t be intolerable until you’re married. Take it to the bank. Tattoo it to your arm.

Link to this thread. Whatever, just don’t fucking forget it and if you choose to ignore this

statement then remember that we told you so.

——————

she changed after marriage. I guess once they have that claim on half your stuff they lose

the incentive to hold back from grinding you down into a pulp of misery

——————

In addition to scoping out the mom, there are 2 more VERY STRONG indicators of what type of

person your gf is going to be.

Her job: if she has a real job, works hard, is independent and makes money she’s more likely

to be a better wife. One common theme I see in this thread is that most of these women sound

like stay-at-home moms. What the fuck do you think’s going to happen if she just sits at home

all day?

#2: What does she watch? Does she watch shows that are challenging? exciting? movies and

series as opposed to soap operas?

Bottom line: if she likes to watch soaps and talk shows she is learning how to be an

attention whore and how to want and expect an unrealistic lifestyle.

Take it to the bank.

——————

One excellent approach — sexual moratorium. Let her know that you are putting her on

probation, and that you are not going to have sex with her for at least six months. I know, I

know, but really. Buy a lot of porn, spank, whatever you need to do, but when you take pussy

off the table, a lot of her emotional leverage vanishes. You would be amazed at what you

do/put up with/believe because you think that it might get you laid. Translation: if you’re a

good boy, you’ll get some. Take that away, and you will begin to get your balls and dignity

back, and it will amaze you how you were willing to degrade yourself for it.

Once it sinks in that you don’t care whether or not you get laid, she realizes that she has a

lot less power than she thought. And it scares the shit out of her.

REPLY 1:

About 85% of women will be ***relieved*** you stop begging for sex. Other than that, a dandy

post.

REPLY 2:

They think they’ll be relieved. Actually, they’ll freak. Sex and power are very closely

connected with women, and once they realize you’re not kidding, and you’re not playing, and

they’re suddenly reduced to the status of Jeeves with tits, it will rock their world. Trust

me.

——————

LETTER TO HIS SON

by

LORD CHESTERFIELD

LONDON,

September 5, O.S. 1748.

“As women are a considerable, or at least a pretty numerous part of company; and as their

suffrages go a great way toward establishing a man’s character in the fashionable part of the

world (which is of great importance to the fortune and figure he proposes to make in it), it

is necessary to please them.

I will therefore, upon this subject, let you into certain Arcana that will be very useful for

you to know, but which you must, with the utmost care, conceal and never seem to know. Women,

then, are only children of a larger growth; they have an entertaining tattle, and sometimes

wit; but for solid reasoning, good sense, I never knew in my life one that had it, or who

reasoned or acted consequentially for four-and-twenty hours together. Some little passion or

humor always breaks upon their best resolutions. Their beauty neglected or controverted,

their age increased, or their supposed understandings depreciated, instantly kindles their

little passions, and overturns any system of consequential conduct, that in their most

reasonable moments they might have been capable of forming.

A man of sense only trifles with them, plays with them, humors and flatters them, as he does

with a sprightly forward child; but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with

serious matters; though he often makes them believe that he does both; which is the thing in

the world that they are proud of; for they love mightily to be dabbling in business (which by

the way they always spoil); and being justly distrustful that men in general look upon them

in a trifling light, they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who

seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only

seem to do it.”

——————

Women are essentially a depreciating asset. Like a car, they go down in value. And even

worst, there is a 50% chance they will take your assets. Would you own a car that has a 50%

chance of reducing your net worth 50%? Think of a car like a Lexus. Get a new one every three

years. Or 36,000 miles. Which ever comes first.

——————

This thread should be bookmarked forever. Dr. Phil and Oprah can choke on this shit.

I divorced my wife 4 years ago. The best move I ever made in my life. I worked an engineering

job and worked retail at night so she could stay at home with the kids. Did not matter, was

not enough. I said enough, see you later.

—————–

Women will always test men’s boundaries. You kid yourself if you think you can avoid this by

giving in – that just makes the behavior worse while causing her to lose respect for you.

It’s what creates the nagging harpy that makes the whipped man’s life a hell.

If you really have no energy or heart to stand up to a woman you should stay single.

And it’s not a constant struggle. The man who stands up to his wife goes through short, but

sharp conflicts without caving in order to get the respect from the woman that allows her to

see him as her equal so that most of the time their time together is pleasant. The more

consistent the man is in standing up to the woman the less she feels the need to test him.

The whipped man on the other hand goes through a daily low-level hell of control, nagging and

belittlement from the woman in order to avoid any larger conflicts. It’s a very poor trade

off.

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[My wife’s great]

REPLY 1:

Talk to me in 5 more years.

REPLY 2:

Too fucking true. First couple of years of marriage were OK but then her inner bitch

surfaced. Now it’s just one long monologue of pain.

“Bob and Cindy just got a new minivan. Cindy thought they needed it because she wants to have

three kids soon. When are we going to have kids? Do you like silver minivans? I think

silver’s a great color for a family car. I want two girls and one boy. Do you think we’ll be

able to afford private school or are you going to have to get a better job? Silver goes with

all my black outfits. Have you fixed the door squeak yet?”

and on and on and on.

——————

[Quoting a guy’s wife] “Do you think we’ll be able to afford private school or are you going

to have to get a better job?”

REPLY:

This illustrates the root of the problem perfectly. Women’s perceptions are all distorted.

Note how this issue, to the woman, is a false dichotomy–can we afford private school or do

you need a better job. This is the extent of their ability to reason. This causes all of the

conflict.

—————–

an earlier poster said to look at the mother to see what the GF will end up being. That’s

true enough, but look at the father as well. If he appears worn down and henpecked then take

a good look at your own future.

—————–

Education, region, status, and income.

The more educated a woman is the more feminist lies she will believe.

Urban women have impossible expectations unless you are Donald Trump, and even he’s been

divorced a few times.

High status women need a man far above them in status. The more money a woman makes the more

likely she is to divorce you.

Marry an uneducated, poor, nice girl from the country.

—————–

It was when I started standing up to my wife rather that pussy-footing around and trying to

appease her that things changed for the better. I don’t mean being abrasive or abusive, just

not backing down from my honest judgment and only compromising when convinced, not when

pressured.

—————-

It all comes down to evolution.

Physically, women are smaller, weaker, slower and more vulnerable. If they’re saddled with

children, without a male around to defend them, everyone dies. Therefore, they’re hard-wired

to seek the strongest, most powerful male they can, and to seek out power, because their

lives depended on it. Things haven’t changed — modern society is just a recent blip in

evolutionary time. Women are hard-wired to understand pure power, because they have none.

That’s why they’re constantly testing. That’s why they’re so compassionless. That’s why

they’re not especially spiritual, or creative, relative to men. They’re too concerned about

staying alive to dream or invent. That’s why they’re so shitty at working in teams with other

women — they’re always seeking to develop their own power, and don’t really understand what

a team is, or how it works. That’s why infidelity drives them so nuts — they need one male

they can control, who will stay around and protect them. Women are created by nature to be

Machiavellian, and materialistic — store up supplies for the drought/famine/winter — and

this thread proves it.

REPLY:

There’s too much raw truth in this (although women are more than this too) for the PC crowd

to admit to any of it.

—————

I’ve found (at least with my wife) that anything I say to her in a logical way will be

reprocessed thru her head to mean something other than what I’ve actually meant to say. I

think that sometimes she does this on purpose, but I’m not sure.

————–

So, here’s my story. Tough day at work. Arrive home to find wife allegedly had tough day at

home with kids. She says she’s tired, and obviously she’s in a bad mood. I offer to do the

dishes, and she refuses. So, as I do most nights, I put the two youngest to bed, then spend

an hour playing chess with the older one, before putting her to bed. Right before this, my

wife asked me if I was going to do the dishes. I said, “sure” and she went out to Blockbuster

to get a DVD. At the end of the whole process of putting the kids in bed, I emerge, and find

my wife finishing the dishes, angry. She begins to ream me out for not doing the dishes, and

I say something like, look, I just finished putting the kids to bed. She then goes over and

tries to put a DVD in the player. It jams — we’ve been having trouble with it lately — and

she smashes her fist into it, breaking it, and the VCR, and begins ranting about how she’s

sick of living in the house we live in, and so on. Basically, abusive. I respond by saying,

literally, “Go abuse someone else, bitch.” She then responds with a string of four letter

words, and stomps out. I leave the house, and go to the gym. When I return two hours later,

she’s in bed and asleep, and my pillows are on the living room floor — sleep out here,

tonight, buddy. That’s fine with me — I was planning to sleep in the living room anyway.

We haven’t had sex in two months. We have three young children — a divorce would be a

disaster. I own my own business, and after three years of ass-busting effort, with absolutely

no support from her, it’s finally taking off. I’m past the point of wondering why this

happened to me, but I’m kind of amazed. Someone has to have a shitty marriage. Someone has to

marry the bitch. Someone has to be trapped. Look, it’s me! I mean, I’m a grown man, and I

have someone in my house who repeatedly has these psychodramas, and now it’s part of my life,

too.

It’s a weird situation. On the one hand, you don’t want to be a beta and put up with this

shit. On the other, you also don’t want three little kids to grow up in an atmosphere of

constant warfare, fighting and so on.

And she’s almost completely incapable of rationally discussing an issue, and working together

to arrive at some kind of workable solution. It’s all demands, irrational rage, and pouting.

If there were no children, I’d simply leave. But I can’t. So you begin to develop this really

bizarre relationship where you emotionally isolate her, acting sort of semi-normal, but not

letting her know anything about what you really feel or want because she’ll use it against

you. I lie constantly.

You know, as I type this, about fifteen feet away is a DVD player with the spindle, or

whatever you call it, open and the shelf sticking out, jammed, broken and useless. The VCR

slot where the tape goes is gaping open, too, broken and useless. And this kind of stuff is

part of the fabric of my life, like my jeans, and my car keys. It’s like having someone

spray-paint obscenities on the living-room wall, and just pretending it isn’t there. But you

have to. I don’t know where this hate-filled child came from, but I can’t just make her stop.

REPLY:

The sad thing is that there are 10 of these stories for every one that has some crap about

“my wife is my best friend blah blah blah”.

Gentlemen, the above is the norm. It isn’t any better for your neighbor than it is for you.

This is life for those of us men who marry.

————–

Let’s put it this way. Brad Pitt was married to Jenifer Aniston. A big time celebrity who

brought home tens of millions of dollars and even he couldn’t stand being married.

Husband=Misery.

————–

only boneheads marry

REPLY:

Speaking as someone married for 23 years, I AGREE WITH YOU!

Stupidest fucking thing I ever did. I seem to remember thinking I was going to get lots of

pussy from her or something equally inane.

————-

The one-dimensional zero-experience assholes who say “suck it up and be an alpha” have no

idea how fucked up women can get.

the poster who said you never *really* let them in your head or heart any more is exactly

right.

of all the people i *wanted* to be able to relax and let my guard down around, it was her.

now she has no clue what i am *ever* thinking.

cunts can remember and produce during the next argument shit you told them from 15 years ago.

That’s what they do all day – memorize what you’ve told them. guys do it baseball stats –

cunts do it with your own words, readying them like ammo for the next round of torture.

————-

Truthfully i don’t have the best marriage, and what i found that helped when i saw i was

being taken advantage of was to communicate my feelings and if needed leave him for a day or

two, so he can appreciate what i do. This does work for me, but unfortunately he goes back to

being his old self. So i don’t have a long term solution. I think what we see after a

marriage in ones SO is their character, which was masked over with the personality and looks

that we fell in love with.

—————

i knew everyone in her family before i knew her.

we dated for 4 years before getting married.

she was smart, funny, kind, thoughtful, witty.

THE DAY OF THE WEDDING, right after she got that fucking ring, she changed. I should’ve

walked out but I had been telling myself for months that marriage is for keeps so at first

you rationalize her fucked up cunt behavior, thinking ‘oh she’s geeked over the wedding.’

then the sex stops, then the bitching and nagging and pestering and arguing start.

to hell with her. i will not divorce her now because there’s too much at stake.

i thought i was marrying my very best friend, lover, confidante, and intellectual and

emotional peer. she changed gears and never looked back, concentrating on spending my money

and having party after stupid mind-numbingly boring party and buying the next house and

redecorating and getting more jewelry and… anything but pal-ing around with me and fucking

my brains out and laughing with me and walking hand-in-hand with me.

in other words all the shit she SAID she would love to do ’til the day we died.

fuck her. to her “credit”, she falls into the manipulative sex as a weapon cunt category i

have observed that about 85% of all women do (as I am sure 85% of all men have some equally

annoying habit in the eyes of women – like cheating on their cunt wives)

my passive-aggressive payback is to selectively and very discreetly fuck good looking,

intelligent, eager strong-libido women on the side. the sex is intensely gratifying,

especially given it’s not her pussy i’m drilling.

and yes i do close up emotionally around her since she will use any tiny thing i say for the

next 3 years in future bitch sessions.

————–

The last time my wife and I had sex (two weeks ago) during the humping phase she comments

“when you get done, can you take a sock and clean the cobwebs off the ceiling?”

REPLY:

That is one of the most depressing things I have read. And I have read this entire thread.

————–

Over 50% of marriages in this country end in divorce. Sometimes “taking responsibility” means

getting the hell out of a fucked up situation.

Regardless of that, it is a certainty that women will change after you get married. It is

rarely for the better, which is why this thread exists in the first place.

————–

I’m so sorry that you are going through a hard time in your life. I would suggest you sit

down and talk to her and tell her how you feel. If that does not work i would suggest

therapy.

REPLY:

*laugh* All grounds for another fierce fit of temper on her part…

————-

This thread is highly enlightening in a way only possible through the recent existence of

the public internet. Ten years ago, this conversation would never have existed. Thanks

people. Thanks.

————-

American women deserve every bad thing that has happened to them.

REPLY:

I married and Indian girl. Except that she’s educated, earns good coin, and is frugal, it’s

all the same shit [otherwise].

————–

but men change for the worse too. are you really such a martyr when you’re as fucked up as

she is?

REPLY:

Please. You fucking cunt. All a guy wants is a girl that will take care of him, be a good

mother to his kids and be his partner in life. You show me a little love, affection and

appreciation and I’ll be your happy faithful little lap dog till death due us part. It’s that

fucking simple.

————-

Just finished reading this thread. Fuck I am depressed. My GF wants to get married and I am

thinking, “No Way”.

REPLY:

Trade her in for a new girl. Let the new girl seduce you away from the old one, string her

along for a few years, then move on to a new girl.

Women are like coal rich mountains. Great for strip mining, but fucking ugly once you’re done

with them.

————–

I am really fucking stupid. I didn’t marry because I thought I’d get pussy all the time or

anything like that. I married because we were “best friends” and we could talk about

anything. Actually all we can talk about now is how I need to make more money to buy more

shit I don’t want and nobody in the world needs. We need a new house. We need a new car. we

need new furniture. Fuckin ay, I need a new life.

————–

Whilst marriage sucks, having American kids with a dumb American wife is the absolute worst.

————–

What the young hens of today don’t realize is that “popular culture” systematically poisons

them against appreciating all the _stuff_ that men do…

————–

The problem is too much self-esteem. These days, if you have a cunt, you think the world owes

you pretty much anything you want, whenever you want it.

REPLY:

Applies to women from European countries as well.

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Sex and The City is like a show about what not to do, but young hens eat it up and believe

(as has been written many times here) that they can party like guttersluts until their late

30s and still be attractive, witty and desirable to rich, handsome dudes.

REPLY:

Women seem to be easily swayed by shows that are aimed at them.

————–

Because we always fight with each other. You ever see women really supporting other women

(apart from the lesbian underground, of course)? It’s just a big catfight, so we ignore our

older sisters’ good advice (which is rarely there, really) and take whatever

glitzily-packaged piece of tripe that comes our way.

Women have been taught that it’s “clever” to be rude & unappreciative of men, and to

“funnily” snipe at them.

————-

Women are great at goading each other into thinking they need more and more and more, to the

point that they are rarely if ever satisfied with life.

————-

“You’re just afraid of________.”

I love how every time men make a rational argument about the misery of their condition, the

number-one comeback is to accuse the guy of being “afraid” of something. Some cheezy 1970s

female playbook they all receive secretly upon puberty must have a chapter about “exploiting

your man’s fragile self esteem.” So we are accused of being “afraid” of committment, “afraid”

of “strong powerful women,” etc. etc. etc.

“If you accuse a man of being afraid, he’ll do what you want to prove he is fearless, just

like a cute little boy.”

No more, bitch. Shaming tactics have been overused and are no longer effective.

————-

Life cycle of a typical American woman:

– Fucks like a crazy slut in college. Gangbangs at frat parties on weekends. Destroys her

body by drinking, smoking and lying in the sun to get a nice tan.

– Gets a power corporate job, pumps her fist in the air over grrl power, and fucks more men.

One night stands during business trips are normal.

– Suddenly “oh no, I’m turning 30 and must land a husband”.

– Contacts every guy from her past, including that guy she rejected in high school, and that

Mexican guy she fucked during spring break.

– Wonders why no one wants her bitter, angry, wrinkled ass. Watches “Sex and the City” and

reads Cosmopolitan magazine for enlightenment.

– Eventually gives up, and orders 20 cats. Spends the next 50 years listening to the same old

sad songs every night as her cats wail in agony. Keeps pictures of herself from her high

school and college days to show people that she was once an attractive, young girl.

– Finally dies. Cats rejoice.

REPLY:

You forgot this part:

– Cats eat half her corpse after not being fed for a week. Landlord pukes his/her guts out

after finding her remains. 10 people attend the funeral.

————–

Marriage to a modern American woman will inevitably result in complete emasculation.

————-

I just broke up with my fiancee too!!

I took her out and said I felt we should put our wedding plans on hold, and she went CRAZY on

me. I ended up breaking it off with her completely…

Mine made the mistake of entering wife mode before she was my wife…I have a house and a

trust fund, and could not risk marrying someone who showed signs of being a wife as described

by this thread.

Three days now, and she is spamming my phone 10 times a day, alternating between rage and

repentance…

————-

If you are a married guy, the chances are that you’re only reading this during a brief pause

in listening to your wife’s whining. “That toilet needs unblocking, help me with dinner,

hurry up laying that patio, kiss my rosy asshole, etc.”

Being a bachelor, my Sunday is very, very relaxing compared to that of a married man.

Thanks to going to bed at 5:30AM after a relaxing night of surfing the internet and watching

porn, I slept in a little bit late this morning. It was actually the afternoon – 12:25PM to

be exact – when I finally sat up in bed, yawning and scratching my big bachelor nuts. There’s

no woman next to me to tell me to shift out of bed at 7:00AM and mow the fucking lawn.

Admittedly I don’t have a woman in bed with me to have sex with, but given that about 1-in-5

marriages are sexless and the rest involve sex only on her terms (i.e. when you’ve just

bought her a new dress) the chances are that many married men reading this have had to

satisfy themselves like I do, with a quick meeting with Madam Palm and her Five Lovely

Daughters. Except, as a bachelor, I can indulge in the pleasures of onanism in the living

room without having to worry about some Nagmonster barging in and shrieking “OMG! WTF! You

disgusting pervert!”

So, anyway, I’m up at half-twelve. I had a nice cigarette whilst checking my e-mails. Then I

had a coffee and another cigarette whilst playing a bit of Soldier of Fortune II until I got

bored of shooting virtual people’s virtual brains out. A nice big fry-up followed.

Mmmm…sausages and bacon. Are women more likely to be vegetarians? I’ve heard they are. I’ve

known guys who pitifully give up meat just because their ‘missus’ is a veggie. Meat is good.

Meat is tasty! Yes, I know full well that an animal died to provide the juicy slabs of bacon

on my toast this morning, and I salute that dead animal for its brave sacrifice in the

service of providing nice breakfasts. I’ll salute its sacrifice again tomorrow when I fry and

eat the bastard’s other ass cheek.

Come two o’clock and I’m down at the local supermarket. I bought some booze, hamburgers,

potatoes, bacon and waffles. I also bought some pizza that, right at this moment in time, I’m

currently stuffing into my mouth. Munch munch. I’m also currently watching Beavis & Butthead.

I downloaded a few episodes via BitTorrent the other day. It’s not even six and I’m

pleasantly drunk, eating pizza and watching some great comedy. What’s planned for this

evening? I’ll probably have a nice relaxing bath and read Viz whilst I’m soaking in the tub.

Then I’ll probably have a few more glasses of wine and watch some of the many South Park and

The Simpsons episodes that are lying around the Hard Drives of my five computers. Also, I’ve

just reinstalled Deus Ex and I’d like to play some of that too. Who knows what the future may

bring? Whatever I want it to, that’s what.

If I was married I would probably be standing in a stupid department store right now, looking

at my watch and tutting whilst the wife decides which dress she’s only going to wear once she

wants to buy with my fucking money!

But I’m not married. I’m an eternal bachelor. To put it another way, I’m eternally happy and

free.

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Christ I wish I’d never married.

The only downside to not marrying is that one misses out on the chance to have and raise

kids, watch them grow, help them and love them.

The upsides though…jesus fucking christ…they far outweigh the downside. No having to

listen to the wife bitch that you didn’t do this, didn’t take care of that, that she wants /

needs / deserves a new whatever. No having to put up with a cow who just keeps growing and

now wants to move her goddamn mother in… Oh fuck it, if I start listing all the negatives

of my wife and my life I’ll end up hanging myself.

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I don’t try to split or evenly balance the blame.

Some is mine for not listening to my heat and getting married at 21.

Another portion is mine for not dumping her ass when she changed instantly after getting the

ring and the ceremony.

But the majority of the blame is hers (not that that fact makes things any better), for

dating me for 4 years and never letting me see the real her and doing such a convincing job

of lying to me that I believed it and of changing the second she got her precious fucking 4

fucking carat diamond motherfucking ring.

She has resisted years of efforts to attend counseling, talk about our dysfunctional

relationship in private, try new ideas, you name it. She is a conniving cunt after nothing

but my money who I will hate or expend effort ignoring until the day one of us dies.

————–

After 23 years of marriage, my wife has filed for divorce. I was committed to a lifetime, not

because there was any excitement to it, and certainly not because there was any great

outpouring of sex, but because I bought into the idea that vows met something, and the kids

would be healthier with a stable home.

I will never marry again, as there is nothing in women worth making a commitment to. As a

rule, they are shallow princesses who have bought into the notion that they should drive

Mercedes, turn in the original wedding ring for a flashier one, and be provided for in a

fashion that allows them to have a nanny raise kids while they shop for shoes. My wife read

Bon Appetit only. She would have tea with girlfriends that totally trashed their husbands,

and they compared lifestyles so that they could all envy the ones with bigger, better more.

Life is all about pleasure for themselves.

Mine has no concept of work, and no concept of what it takes to make a living in the world.

Of course, she wants her freedom and support from me at the same time. Judges are not made to

account, and they condone the actions of unscrupulous ball crunching lawyers that make a

mockery of the law and the rules of discovery. In most states, the woman can give out sex to

everyone but her husband, and on divorce the husband is supposed to be her ATM forever.

As a result, women will bring down society. They offer nothing to it. Sure, some of them can

bake a decent muffin, but I can get a nice one at the local bakery for a buck fifty. Some can

pump out babies if they don’t decide to murder them first with an abortion. Their sense of

entitlement rather than of work and commitment means that children they elect to keep will

grow up with fucked up expectations.

On the dating side, they are whores. Give them a nice dinner and share a nice bottle of wine,

and you can get more sex on a weekend with a date than you can get in a year with a wife with

a sense of entitlement.

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I think a lot of the dissatisfaction for we married men comes down to expectations that

society shovels on to us.

We support the household, but that is expected of us so that doesn’t “count”. After you work

your 60 hour week at a job you loathe, so you can pay the mortgage, the car payments, the

food bill, etc. it is a zero-sum game. What else have you done for me, she will say. Its no

longer enough that we support her fat ass, now we have to be in tune with her feminine side,

anticipate her mood swings and always be on the ready like a ninja to leap into action and

provide for her latest whim.

Men are just not appreciated for what they do best, that is earn a living.

————–

I’m married and I hate my life.

Gents, most of the worst negatives about marriage posted in this thread are true. Not all of

them, but probably over 90%.

I’m 35. I’ve become a closet alcoholic because of my marriage and my spineless self. Vodka,

usually with OJ but sometimes straight. Keeps me just numb enough to handle the day.

But if I can keep one man from throwing his life down the shitter by convincing them not to

get married I will have redeemed myself.

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My wife was up at 6 this morning, reading. I got up around seven, and spent the entire day

with the kids. As usual, she sat down around 9, and fell asleep in her chair, and went to

bed. I am absolutely last on her priority list. She’s on every committee in the world,

involved in the kids’ schools up to her ass, and has basically checked out of the marriage.

I’m starting to research how to conceal assets. This is ridiculous. I have to get out. Don’t

get married.

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The men who get fucked the worst in divorce are the ones who took feminists at their word and

thought marriage was an equal partnership.

Men who know what useless lying whores women are don’t make as many mistakes.

————-

For me the ownage is year round. She doesn’t work. I pay for everything. No matter how much

money I make she rachets up the spending so we’re still living paycheck to paycheck. Kill me

now.

————–

This is one of the MAIN reasons for conflict in marriage right here: women promise men sex on

demand for life in exchange for the ring. The second they get the ring, they begin their

indoctrination of “idiot! i lied! no sex for you – come back – 20 years!!!”

Most women actually enjoy picking out new window treatments and stainless kitchen appliances

more than having the wild sex they used to enjoy with their men before they got married.

Their main desire is to control the male orgasm, because they disdain masturbation, hate

porn, and will crush your balls if you fuck someone else.

This is only 85% of women – 1 in 7 are decent and enjoy sex forever and are good women. The

rest of you frigid cunts are worthless liars.

————

I feel so bad for my friends that have cunts for wives. All they care about is the new

kitchen, trips, and the diamonds they “deserve” to get for xmas (two of my friends gave their

wives expensive gifts. What did they get? A new dress shirt and tie.). These guys are 39 and

their lives are over. They’re nothing but walking ATMS.

REPLY:

That’s me. I can listen to that harpy shriek about how she “deserves” (they love that word,

don’t they?) this or that and how I’m so mean, or I can just buy the damn thing and get some

peace and quiet, but at the cost of a little bit of my soul. Women are like zombies, except

they don’t want brains, just lots of stuff. “More stuff….”

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most women keep the lie (“I’ll keep up my appearance, stay employed and support my kids from

previous relationships, and stay sexy sane and sober”) until they get married then the truth

(“I’ll get repeatedly fired for failing drug tests, drink excessively, periodically go crazy,

balloon to a size 18, and loose all interest in lovemaking”).

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Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life

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I was a witness of a marriage gone bad (saw it from the outside) of a missy who was by

herself (living with Mr’s family) while he was away. She just couldnt control herself or

stand being alone and ended up cheating. One of her friends informed Mr. about it and she was

kicked to the curb, literally. Lost everything: roof over head, money, CC’s, all the security

was gone in a INSTANT.

the saddest part of it all? This cunt doesn’t think she did anything bloody wrong. She “needed

someone” for a long time, and that’s how they justify it. They don’t care about breaking their

marriage vows, they only care about themselves. They only care about THEIR feelings and don’t

give a fuck about the consequences of their actions.

She lives in a fake reality where everything is O.K. She feels completely justified in what

happened, and has NO REMORSE.

As someone young and unmarried, this really bothers the shit out of me, as I (or any decent

man) could have been the poor bloke she did that to.

It’s like they wear a fucking mask their entire lives and then one day “POOF”, she’s a whore

overnight.

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I agree that the worst wives are the American ones. I am 40 and love my kids to death. But my

wife is a fucking bitch. Period. I have no illusions of a good marriage anymore. My

expectations are so friggin low. All i want is her to be a decent human being. Nice. Polite.

You’d think I’d asked if i could fuck her asshole. She lives in a $400,000 house, doesn’t

work, and has a bottomless checkbook. She doesn’t cook, and pathetic sex is about once a

month. My only sanity is I work in Istanbul 3 months of the year. And I’ve had a great woman

over there for over 3 years. Really, if I didn’t love my kids so much, I’d walk out and give

her everything, just to get her out of my life. I’m at a turning point. I really feel like if

I don’t get out now, I’ll regret it the rest of my life. Honest to God, I pray for the day

that she cheats on me and serves me papers. I never thought I could be the kind of man that

would leave his family, but its on my mind 24/7. God help me…

————–

My god, Machiavelli was right.

Control or be controlled, its that simple.

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Marriage is like a boring dinner that lasts your whole life and had dessert at the beginning.

————-

The main concern for most women is to address their wants and desires, without thinking about

what it take to achieve those wants and desires. A husband, to most women, is simply a tool

to use in order to achieve said wants and desires.

REPLY:

Yep. Here is my wife:

We need a new house… blah blah blah… I need a bigger diamond in my wedding ring.. blah

blah… I want a new car… blah blah blah… If you loved me you wouldn’t be so cheap…

sure, I don’t work but that doesn’t mean I have time for cooking or cleaning house… blah

blah blah

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It seems that your wives don’t respect you guys. They have what they want, and they take it

for granted. You are a money-making doormat to them.

————-

My current girlfriend is almost 23. What I like most about her is the fact that she

doesn’t like to spend money. She’s ultra cheap. And to be honest, I am ultracheap because I

have to be. The two of us look at saving money as a fun challenge, and I think that is the

root of our relationship.

Sometimes, we get into fights and occasionally call each other names. But in a way, we

are both pathetic, and we know it, and at least we have each other’s company.

I think she is worthy of marriage at some point because I believe she will be loyal to me

to the end. We both have a lot in common, like to take small trips (especially to

disneyland), visit ghost towns, hike around new places, etc.

She’s a complete pain in the ass but so am I. When I compare her to the Mercedes of women

at school, I’d rather have her, the reliable ford pickup, because odds are it will be on the

road far longer than the mercedes.

REPLY:

And this, gentlemen, is how it begins. Some in this thread have wondered how we married fools

got in this state. Well there you go. Did we see it coming? From our perspective, back then,

this is exactly what it looked like. So different from all the sorry ass married fucks of our

day! And yet, Fate’s cruel joke on us, is that we became those men we laughed at. And now a

new generation of lambs arise, primed for slaughter as the last.

————

I honestly suggest that especially today women present themselves as sex objects to be used.

Their heroes are britney spears and other sluts. The media has presented to most women aged

thirty or less that “heroin chic”, or “short-skirt school girl chic”, etc.. is a viable way

to sell your goods.

Now, women are conditioned from a very early age that dressing provocatively will get you

attention. The moment the hormones kick in, or perhaps even earlier, the thongs are purchased

and worn.

Expensive makeup, trashy clothes, and trendy purses are now demanded by 12 year old girls.

It is the media that convinces women they need all that shit. NOT men.

———–

The core of our relationship is that we both like to save money. I doubt that this will

change.

We are simple people with simple needs. We don’t need much to be happy. I don’t need giant

television sets and the latest computers or sports cars to be happy, and she doesn’t need $700

purses or $100 MAC lipstick applicators.

I doubt that this will change unless she reconditions herself to have a very expensive taste.

REPLY:

Trust me, she will. Before you know it, you’ll HAVE to buy a house, and you’ll HAVE to fill

it with all sorts of expensive furniture and knick knacks to make it a “home”. And no, YOUR

knicknacks don’t count

Then one fine Saturday morning, you’ll find yourself wandering through your umpteenth

furniture store of the day looking for that perfect “banquet” (whatever that is), or finding

the perfect chaise (ditto) for the guest bedroom that hasn’t been used in over a year.

Then it his you – you used to spend this time playing golf, sleeping, or having a great

morning fuck with the same woman who’s calling you an “idiot” because you don’t know sangria

from ecru.

And something inside of you dies.

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Getting married was the WORST decision I have ever made in my life. Of course, I married an

AMERICAN JAP wannabee — thinking that the woman she PRESENTED before marriage was the woman

she would be right after I do.

Chronology:

(1) We agree on love, respect, honesty, money and career.

(2) We get married. All bets are off.

(3) She quits job, refuse to work for duration, let’s her credit go to hell, leans on me to

pay for her mortgage, credit cards, misc bills, car payment. Meanwhile, I pay for our house,

all associated bills, medical insurance, utilities and incidentals. Side note, her credit was

so shot (of course she never revealed this until after the deal was set) that I carried the

loan in my name only for the new house we were to purchase together.

(3) I cut her off by refusing to pay for her bills (as listed above) — after 6 months – she

becomes indignant. She becomes further in debt and creditors start their agenda. Oh well…

(4) She starts emailing and calling all of her old boyfriends while I am away slaving at the

workplace.

(5) I give her an ultimatum to cut the shenanigans out. She denies, denies, denies. I call

her bluff.

(6) Move her out to West Coast.

(7) Plan on buying her out of the equity accrued EVEN though she has not paid one single dime

into any type of investment INCLUDING the house mortgage.

Bottom line — DO NOT MARRY an American Woman

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The truth is that there is nothing we really want. We aren’t materialistic. If I supply her

with knitting material she’ll be happy. Truth!

REPLY:

That’s what I said too, sonny. You put that ring on her finger though, and all bets are off.

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That’s my girlfriend. She’s a granola chick. Likes camping, hiking, etc.

REPLY:

Unfortunately, she won’t be like this after you get married. Tale of Jekyll and Hyde.

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Obviously your self respect if you don’t leave right then. At that point you are collusive

with your treatment.

REPLY:

No, At that point all her babbling/nagging has become so much white noise. And it’s much

easier to waste an afternoon in a furniture store than it is to put up with a month of

passive/aggressive BS.

I’m just agreeing with her so she will a) shut up b) get out of there as quickly as possible

so I can salvage something of my weekend.

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Anything you do or say is twisted by them into playing their fucked up game. These people are

not real. They’re not human. They are just a bunch of insecurities and neuroses which

manifest themselves as egotism and bullying. They will never become good. They’re doomed, and

will doom you too, by association. That is the reality. You need to get out. Now.

————-

Marriage is mostly a female ideal. Why should a man get married if he is of sound mind?

————-

That’s what my wife did. In retrospect she lied to me more often than she told the truth, and

she manipulated me and my calendar constantly. All the while I was loyal to her and to the

kids.

Slowly, they suck all of the life out of you until one day you discover that the whole

relationship is lifeless. I’m finding, oddly enough, that it is the woman that discovers the

relationship is lifeless before the man does. I think it’s because all the while, she was

searching for wealth, shoes, and comparison shopping with her friends … and the logical end

of all of that is that it leads to no where. The husband buries himself in his career and

defines himself not as happy, but as provider and achiever. It is lifeless for him before it

is lifeless for her, but she is the first to discover it. The male just resigns himself to

the situation.

Then, the divorce comes. In 2/3 of the cases, it is the woman that files it. The husband

feels used, betrayed, lied to, manipulated, and disconnected. She gets the children, he is

booted from the house, the friends back off out of confusion, and he gets an apartment, bed,

television and toaster. Her life continues without him. She gets support. He gets to pay it.

Then the day comes when the divorce is final, and he discovers that he’s free. He’s not sure

what he’s free for, but he knows that he is then enslaved to nothing but child support and

alimony.

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Look, the problem starts with girls playing with Barbie. They think everything should

glitter. Even at age 4 they are vicariously trying to control Ken even while they fantasize

about their own wedding.

When women reach the mid or upper thirties or so, they realize they will not really glitter

like Barbie any more. But they all have a friend that does, who drives the flashy Mercedes,

and who seems to have a real life Ken that replaces the initial wedding ring with the bigger

and sparkly one. So, they get dissatisfied with their husbands, because they are no longer

Ken-like, and they blame their situation on him. To make the pain easier they spend him into

oblivion until they decide to divorce him altogether.

Men, on the other hand, grow up knowing that they will support the family. Barbie only knows

that she will be kept. Men are raised to be men, but women are raised to be Barbie; the first

can be sustained, the latter cannot.

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I’ve been divorced for two whole days now. I was ambushed and surprised by an end to a 20+

year marriage.

I provided the income; she stayed home. I worked long hours; she became bored with lonely

evenings. She read fiction and romance novels; I read books about business, economics, and

theology. She wanted more out of life, but she had no clue as to the sacrifices I made to

support the family. I wanted more out of life, but she was totally uninteresting. I asked her

to work part time so that I could work less, and we could spend more time together; work was

beneath her, and would get in the way of outside activities. But I was loyal to our marriage

and to my vows, and I love my kids completely; her search for more out of life led her to

disloyalty and betrayal. I also became boring, I admit it. I would have stayed married to her

forever because a commitment is a commitment, and especially because the kids do not deserve

a broken home.

She justified her actions by demonizing me. It was the only justification her mind could make

to allow her to do what she wanted to do. But she was also scared — she had steadfastly

refused to enter the workplace. She wanted to continue her dependence upon me in the form of

support even while she declared her independence from me in matters of togetherness. Her fear

of the real world, and her desire to continue a unsustainable lifestyle proved to be a deadly

combination once she learned to demonize me. The breakup became mean and evil, and any lie

could be justified against the fear of the unknown.

I’m no expert on divorce, as I don’t have the perspective of time. But I don’t know how to

raise sons and daughters for the type of relationships we have today. 50% of all first

marriages fail; 70% of all second marriages fail. Daughters need to be raised to be

independent, but to do so means that you are not raising them to be good wives. To raise them

to be good wives, means they are vulnerable to a bad choice. I want my sons to live in trust,

but how can they trust the type of women that America produces today?

In the meantime, this sick situation is played out in a system that is horribly broken. The

Family Law section of the bar does not police its own. Judges award custody to any woman who

isn’t running both a meth lab and a prostitution ring. Judges don’t punish women for their

faults, but any fault by men results in huge inequities in division. And good and decent men

end up supporting ex-wives who simply want a change, but who are afraid of facing the world

with the full consequences of their own decision. The Rambo-style system of modern divorce

irreparably rips families apart.

Thank you for your time.

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Women make decisions that make them feel good in the short run. They want to get rid of their

husband. They don’t consider the fact that after the rush of getting half his stuff they will

have to get by on less than half his income, and whatever they can earn while raising the

kids.

Society used to protect women from their poor decisions by making divorce difficult to

obtain, and providing no support for disloyalty.

Before the dark times. Before feminism.

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Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life

Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:49pm

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I was happy but now I’m starting to wonder why I’m married.

Me; MBA, career job, low 6 figure income, workout at the gym 3 days/week, cook meals on

weekends, do major chores (i.e., heavy lifting)

Her: At home mom – but our kid is in 3rd grade so she has all day home alone – she claims she

cleans but it doesn’t take 6 hours per day 5 days per week to do the shitty job she does.

She says she’s going to go back to work but she keeps finding reasons why she can’t work.

Sex? None in 2 months (“urinary tract infection is cleared up but I’m afraid I’ll get

another”)

Fit? Not really

So she has no ambition, provides nominal home value, is sexless.

I’m not seeing the benefit of this marriage for me.

What I have now for a wife is not what or who I married.

I married an active, energetic woman.

And now? She is pure couch potato. She talks a good game but when I get home, things are the

same as before except she has moved on to the next book she wants to read.

Meanwhile, I blow through my income buying her the house she wants, the vacations she wants,

and so on.

————

Two years of Marriage. I’m depressed and turning to pot and alcohol. I’m not allowed to DO

anything without “permission”. I used to live life to the full, now I just exist to pay the

mortgage and fill the shelves full of worthless crap we don’t need. Thanks to the joyless fat

whore I’m forced to spend the rest of my life with.

————-

Women evolved to care for children and be cared for by men. They are sensitive to emotion,

but not too good at math. If you want a miserable relationship try treating your woman as a

rational adult.

————-

I love this thread.

Men: Women are unable to form a rational thought or argument and are constantly hampered by

emotion.

Women: Are not! You’re just being mean! Waaah!

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Women still think it’s cool to argue any point, no matter how trivial, to the point of making

their husbands dream of suicide, no matter what age they are.

There is nothing on this Earth that can be worse than a life-long power struggle with an

infantile woman.

It’s no wonder so many men are happily letting their wives leave.

————–

The only way a man will ever find happiness, when he’s truly unhappy at home is to treat

his wife with complete and total indifference. Come and go as you please. Never, in a million

years, think of ever asking her permission for anything. Do what you want, when you want, how

you want, and with WHOM you want.

Once she (finally) gets the message that she really doesn’t matter to him anymore, she’ll do

anything on earth to keep him. The older a woman gets, the better this technique works.

Every woman who reads this will think I’m crazy, but every man who reads it will know in

their hearts that it’s 100% gospel truth.

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[Men] thought that marriage was the deal that the vows and written contract said it was.

Little did they know that the vows had nothing to do with it and that the REAL contract was

the one festering in the pea brain of the evil sow they were tying the knot to. You know the

one that changes from moment to moment on the whim of the ill-tempered fatass cunt.

REPLY:

Not just the vows and written contract – no woman in history ever got married by saying

“after awhile – no more sex for you”. In fact, they state quite the opposite.

————–

I think when we look at how so many of these marriages end up, we’ll find that its the male

who continues to strive to meet his end of his promise long after she has merely changed her

mind about hers.

————–

I tried everything I could think of, read about, and hear of. Nothing worked. Whenever I

would bring up the fact that I wish we could have sex more than once every six weeks – she

would write up a laundry list of demands that she promised would improve things. Most of

these things on the list had to do with buying her shit and doing things for her. Like many –

I fell for it a few times and scrambled to make things better. That, of course, resulted in

very little changing except that not only did I have to support my family with a 50 hour a

week job, but I also had to cater to her B.S. and help her with the housework (she has no

other job).

————–

I’m finally tired of what my wife is doing to herself physically. I feel my choices are leave

or have an affair. I think I’d prefer the affair – then if she finds out, we will have broken

up because I had an affair which somehow seems more palatable than saying we had a divorce

because she GOT FAT!

—————

Just a quick question, have any of you men spoken to your wives and really sat down and told

her how you feel?

REPLY:

I did. Once every 60-90 days or so … for years.

It didn’t matter. My feelings were dismissed as being out of line. It always became twisted

that there was still another way I could provide for her (as though 60-70 hour work weeks,

remainder of the time helping around the house and yard, while she had a maid and no job was

not enough). There was always something else that needed to be better or newer. Her happiness

did not derive from me, nor did it derive from what she had internally. Her barometer of

happiness was completely tied up in adequately keeping up with all the perks her girlfriends

were getting.

She didn’t love me. She only loved what I could provide. And though I was loyal to the vows

until the end, she dumped me finally and gave me one ball busting of a divorce.

—————-

Ever see the old Twilight Zone where the little boy has psychic powers and he can torture and

kill anyone with a thought?

That’s the power no fault divorce gives to any woman you are foolish enough to marry.

How many people can be trusted with that kind of power?

—————-

A father leaves work a little late one night and, while on his way home, he remembers that he

has not yet purchased a christmas gift for his young daughter. He quickly parks his car in

front of a toy store and asks the salesperson:

“How much is the Barbie in the window?”

With a convincing voice, the salesperson replies, “Well, we have ‘Barbie goes to the gym’ for

$19.95, ‘Barbie plays Volleyball’ for $19.95, ‘Barbie goes Shopping’ for $19.95, ‘Barbie goes

to the Beach’ for $19.95, and ‘Divorced Barbie’ for $265.95.”

The surprised man asks, “What? Why does the divorced Barbie cost $265.95 when the rest are

only $19.95?”

The salesperson responds, “Sir, the ‘Divorced Barbie’ comes with Ken’s car, Ken’s house,

Ken’s boat, Ken’s furniture, Ken’s computer, and one of Ken’s friends.”

—————–

And also…remember that you cannot argue with an emotional women. Never. if she is in that

crazy mood. DO NOT TRY AND REASON. Say something like “I’m sorry you feel that way.” If it

continues then say, I’m not discussing thus further right now and walk away or make a phone

call or pick up your copy of GQ and start reading it. Eventually she’ll calm down and maybe

you can discuss it. maybe not. But at least you are not expending all that energy. Its a

waste. You need to view your wife in that state like your 7 or 8 year old tantrumming child.

You cannot reason with them. Don’t try. Don’t be manipulated. Just be the man. Have a

backbone. Stay calm.

—————-

This thread may outlast 50% of marriages. Men should join the marriage strike, otherwise you

may end up broke and indebted to the cupcake you thought was going to keep the wedding vows.

Cupcake loves child support and alimony plus your house and everything else you give.

Marriage is a business now run by the government to steal your money and redistribute to the

women that are too irrational to control or take care care of themselves.

—————-

Marriage strike? I thought I was the only one. Divorce changed my life in many ways (5 years

now). Not only have I staged my own marriage strike, I made and inventory of my life as

regards to female influence all together. As a result, I have reduced my overall relations

with women. I still fuck with them ever now and again when the biological needs arise, but

not much else. I lost all respect for women once I came to understand them. All you really

need to do is compare them to the standards of good behavior towards our fellow man/woman

that we apply to each other as men. Once you understand their motivations and values in life

(as a whole, not the few individuals we all know) then your motherly-protectionist

perspective kind of falls apart.

The irony is that I have 5 year old daughter from that marriage. I watch her become more like

her mother more and more every week.

REPLY:

Amen brother. Once you truly realize the motivations behind your average woman (materialism,

self-entitlement, self-righteousness, etc.), the reality that they serve little purpose beyond

sexual satisfaction becomes 100% clear.

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After watching the Vermont Teddy Bear Company ad for Valentine’s Day on TV last night, I had

a religious experience! I thanked my Lord and my God that I was saved from being one of the

pathetic males in an office cubicle who succumbs to female pressure for that kind of gift

just to get the annual lay.

I’m very glad to be single again.

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You’re gonna have to keep having affair after affair after affair for the rest of your life

because passion normally runs it’s course in humans and ends after a year or two. That’s

precisely why marriage, a long-term proposition, feels like it sucks.

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Last night the wife asks me on a scale of 1-10 if I wanted to have another child. Unfucking

beeeeelievable.

She then spouts off a littany of reasons why she hated being pregnant, hated delivery, hated

post partum, and especially the fact that she could not shit for 5 days. It was horrible,

horrible, horrible.

She then goes on and on about how she feels sorry for our daughter because she does not want

her to be an only child and have old parents that she will have to deal with all by herself –

like she does.

Somehow she gets to the point where she remembers when I called her a bitch because she was

such a huge fucking bitch. “Yes, I was a bitch when I was pregnant and after the baby was

born. I do not apologize for that.” Well hello! I am not apologizing for calling you a bitch.

Of course the conversation, oh, what am I saying, her ranting, led to nowhere. As I pointed

out to her, this is a useless conversation. It has nothing to do with me. My opinion in the

matter is baseless as I have never squeezed a watermelon from between my legs, so there is no

way in heaven or hell I could ever understand what she is talking about – as she sooo clearly

reminds me whenever this comes up.

Oh, yea, about having another child – she is going to be 40 and her time is running out. She

is terrified that by the time she decides that, yes, she can stand having another child, it

will be too late. Wake-up call!!! It already is too late.

Save your ass. Stay single.

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Once when I brought up the possibility of having sex, yes a weak moment, she again complained

about how she is always exhausted (not tired). So being the problem solver I am, I respond by

saying we can have sex in the morning.

“I don’t like sex in the morning.” she says.

She might as well have just said she didn’t like sex (with me, period, whatever) and

left it at that.

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“I never knew how happy I was until I got married, then it was too late !!”

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I was googling something for my husband and this board popped up so I started reading it. I

have to say this has been the most horrible thing I have ever read.. and totally on the mark.

There are a few decent women out there.. and I consider myself one.. but we are few and far

between. You guys in bad marriages.. get divorced. SO you lose some stuff and pay child

support. Isn’t it worth some peace? If you have kids a shitty marriage isn’t doing them any

good, so the staying for the kids is a lame excuse.

It seems men at the core just want to be loved, appreciated, and fucked regularly. I don’t

know why it cant be found among women other than their crappy families raising harpy bitches

who have no clue how to be a wife. I was lucky enough to have some great examples for the

wife role and that made me a good wife. Check out the woman’s family.. if they are fucked up

run like hell. Women are too caught up in trying to prove something, a power struggle, and

trying NOT to be a woman that they die dried up old bags. You guys go out and find someone

decent.. be picky..

REPLY:

You’ve come very close to the truth here; and the truth is that most guys start getting

kicked in the butt around their 7th birthday by their families; you either perform or you’re

a piece of shit. Most girls though are just relentlessly spoiled; they can do no wrong and

everything they produced is regarded as a marvel. That is how it was in my family growing up

and the daughters ruled the roost. They are spoiled rotten, with the predictable results.

The problem is spoiled children growing into monstrous adults without consciences. In our

society it tends to be women, particularly good looking women that get spoiled the most.

Go rent Whatever Happened to Baby Jane. This is what most American women are…horrible

spoiled monster brats that grow up to be very crazy old ladies.

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My grandfather ( a hardcore marine and later a cop) said everything went to shit when women

got to vote.. LMAO! Considering the poll that reports women vote for political offices on

looks more than any other quality, I tend to agree..

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For thousands of years, yes thousands, women worked just as hard as men but at different

tasks. Most of the tasks were agricultural – taking care of the chickens, collecting

eggs, milking the cows, tending the garden, herding sheep. Indoor work was also

labor-intensive just to maintain a semblance of cleanliness, cooking, canning, sewing,

beating carpets. Women who were able produced products at home for sale.

The stupid, spoiled, modern housewife ornament with every electronic gizmo and an unlimited

budget is a part of the problem, not the solution.

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Smart is good. Educated is bad. Higher education will turn a nice girl into a man hating

bitch.

REPLY 1:

This is part of the consensus.

REPLY 2:

Truth. Was involved with some woman awhile ago who had an MBA and she attributed every

conflict she had a work with a man to the fact that she was a woman. Totally delusional and

bitchy about everything, nothing but attitude. Very much part of the spoiled “I can do no

wrong because I’m a woman” Gen-Y crowd.

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Holy smokes women plan their divorce almost 30 months before they actually do it? Everyday

you learn more about how devious the female mind can be. The internet may just save a lot of

men grief from the biggest mistake of their lives, marrying a cupcake. Keep the thread going

save the men! Marriage strike!

REPLY:

Women are not capable of moral reasoning. The things that come naturally to sane men – fair

play, honor, teamwork, loyalty – are alien to the female mind.

A woman without children seeks the hottest or wealthiest man she can get to knock her up, and

to marry the wealthiest man she can. If a better deal comes along she will instantly and

without remorse dump the less wealthy or attractive man, and she will have the full backing

of the modern totalitarian police state to take half the money and possessions of the man she

betrayed.

Give a creature with no conscience that kind of power and you have modern society, a culture

in freefall, and soon afterwards the end of civilization.

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Came home last night after working 15 hours, 9 am to midnight. Climb into bed, about three

minutes later, the first thing she says, “are you mad at me?”

I ask her, “Is it too much to expect to ask me how my day was and whether I’m doing all right

after working for fifteen hours?”

I got yelled at for the next 45 minutes. I love marriage.

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I string girls along, hinting at marriage. I get lots of pussy, let them clean my place,

cooking and all that. Then I create a reason for the breakup. Rinse and repeat.

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