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-Bitcoin suffers from high inflation and is unable to maintain its value. This makes it unfit for use in daily business, slows adoption and makes it very volatile and a psychological terror for many people



-The bitcoiners (especially the bigger bagholders) in large parts suffer delusion of grandeur thinking it would take over the world or at least pretending to think it in order to draw in noobs and rob them of their money (transfer their wealth to miners and early investors)



- Bitcoin is wasteful. The high inflation leads to a too large and centralised mining industry consuming huge amounts of electricity and money.



- Bitcoin actively holds down alternative currencies and with this slows down progress and real innovation (bitcoins only concern in regards of innovation seems to be to keep the upper hand over alts and with this behaviour ensure the latecomers not get a thing from joining the cryptomovement and are forced to use btc instead to make the large bagholders rich while preventing everyone who joined later to make profit at all. So bitcoin is anti fair distribution and an elitist shitcoin)



- The fork-issue has shown large parts of btc bagholders have become so arrogant they want to get rid of the consensus and don't care anymore about decentralisation



- Bitcoin does not care about the little man, it's all about that small cabale that was around at launch.





Bitcoin has become the cancer of cryptocurrency and holds back progress and surpresses the entire altcoin industry. It is a scam for early adopters and miners to get rich of YOUR money by hyping it up to the point of telling people 10million$ for a coin would be realistic. This is a get rich quick mentality and often times misleading marketing (comparison to gold while it is inflationary more than fiat) and bitcoin looks very, very much like a ponzi right now.





If you feel the same or agree with some of these points or have other fundamental critique on btc i would invite you to join the campaign for boycott. Feel free to put a statement of protest/boycott into your signature and stop using it. Use altcoins instead and demand from exchanges tradingpairs with other coins as basecurrency.



Bitcoin needs to be canceled. It has nothing to do anymore with the original idea of cryptocurrency.



Thank you for your attention and time. The recent discussion about the hardfork ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.0 ) and this long bearmarket has brought several things to light:-Bitcoin suffers from high inflation and is unable to maintain its value. This makes it unfit for use in daily business, slows adoption and makes it very volatile and a psychological terror for many people-The bitcoiners (especially the bigger bagholders) in large parts suffer delusion of grandeur thinking it would take over the world or at least pretending to think it in order to draw in noobs and rob them of their money (transfer their wealth to miners and early investors)- Bitcoin is wasteful. The high inflation leads to a too large and centralised mining industry consuming huge amounts of electricity and money.- Bitcoin actively holds down alternative currencies and with this slows down progress and real innovation (bitcoins only concern in regards of innovation seems to be to keep the upper hand over alts and with this behaviour ensure the latecomers not get a thing from joining the cryptomovement and are forced to use btc instead to make the large bagholders rich while preventing everyone who joined later to make profit at all. So bitcoin is anti fair distribution and an elitist shitcoin)- The fork-issue has shown large parts of btc bagholders have become so arrogant they want to get rid of the consensus and don't care anymore about decentralisation- Bitcoin does not care about the little man, it's all about that small cabale that was around at launch.Bitcoin has become the cancer of cryptocurrency and holds back progress and surpresses the entire altcoin industry. It is a scam for early adopters and miners to get rich ofmoney by hyping it up to the point of telling people 10million$ for a coin would be realistic. This is a get rich quick mentality and often times misleading marketing (comparison to gold while it is inflationary more than fiat) and bitcoin looks very, very much like a ponzi right now.If you feel the same or agree with some of these points or have other fundamental critique on btc i would invite you to join the campaign for boycott. Feel free to put a statement of protest/boycott into your signature and stop using it. Use altcoins instead and demand from exchanges tradingpairs with other coins as basecurrency.Bitcoin needs to be canceled. It has nothing to do anymore with the original idea of cryptocurrency.Thank you for your attention and time.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 02:48:34 PM #2 Quote from: Stealthcoin on January 12, 2015, 02:47:42 PM Well, somehow we need to show them that their thinking is not the right way to go... but i don't know if Boycott would do anything at all.





sure, it would strenghten alts which is their greatest fear. Stronger alts would provide us little people could get a slice of the pie. Bitcoin itself goes nowhere because inflation. So with this currency we are going nowhere. I am all for stronger altcoins and less marketshare for btc (can't hold the value anyways, pump and dump shitcoin).

Bitcoins distribution is a joke. Why would anyone want to use that? Altcoin industry is distributed to much more people and much more equally than bitcoin is. So holding that down with their propaganda and actions is essentially robbing us altcoin investors. sure, it would strenghten alts which is their greatest fear. Stronger alts would provide us little people could get a slice of the pie. Bitcoin itself goes nowhere because inflation. So with this currency we are going nowhere. I am all for stronger altcoins and less marketshare for btc (can't hold the value anyways, pump and dump shitcoin).Bitcoins distribution is a joke. Why would anyone want to use that? Altcoin industry is distributed to much more people and much more equally than bitcoin is. So holding that down with their propaganda and actions is essentially robbing us altcoin investors.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:00:05 PM #3 Quote from: Stealthcoin on January 12, 2015, 02:56:26 PM Quote from: smalltimer on January 12, 2015, 02:48:34 PM Quote from: Stealthcoin on January 12, 2015, 02:47:42 PM Well, somehow we need to show them that their thinking is not the right way to go... but i don't know if Boycott would do anything at all.





sure, it would strenghten alts which is their greatest fear. Stronger alts would provide us little people could get a slice of the pie. Bitcoin itself goes nowhere because inflation. So with this currency we are going nowhere. I am all for stronger altcoins and less marketshare for btc (can't hold the value anyways, pump and dump shitcoin).

Bitcoins distribution is a joke. Why would anyone want to use that? Altcoin industry is distributed to much more people and much more equally than bitcoin is. So holding that down with their propaganda and actions is essentially robbing us altcoin investors.

sure, it would strenghten alts which is their greatest fear. Stronger alts would provide us little people could get a slice of the pie. Bitcoin itself goes nowhere because inflation. So with this currency we are going nowhere. I am all for stronger altcoins and less marketshare for btc (can't hold the value anyways, pump and dump shitcoin).Bitcoins distribution is a joke. Why would anyone want to use that? Altcoin industry is distributed to much more people and much more equally than bitcoin is. So holding that down with their propaganda and actions is essentially robbing us altcoin investors.

Exactly this is why they are investing millions of dollars into the Blockstream technology. They are trying hard to stay at the top, while saying everything else is a shitcoin but still want their features via the blockstream.... this shows how single minded their mindset is.



We have again the same problem as with the banks, once on top they don't want anyone else there. And this is very sad to see such development.

In my view the Bitcoin foundation failed miserably in many ways already.

Exactly this is why they are investing millions of dollars into the Blockstream technology. They are trying hard to stay at the top, while saying everything else is a shitcoin but still want their features via the blockstream.... this shows how single minded their mindset is.We have again the same problem as with the banks, once on top they don't want anyone else there. And this is very sad to see such development.In my view the Bitcoin foundation failed miserably in many ways already.

they are all that what needed to be avoided. Totally lost their way but bully everyone else. They are anti-colourful, anti-diversity, anti-efficiency, anti-profit for the latecomers, anti-wealthdistribution, anti innovation, anti decentralisation, anti the sane mind



i refuse to use it. they are all that what needed to be avoided. Totally lost their way but bully everyone else. They are anti-colourful, anti-diversity, anti-efficiency, anti-profit for the latecomers, anti-wealthdistribution, anti innovation, anti decentralisation, anti the sane mindi refuse to use it.

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LegendaryActivity: 1246Merit: 1000 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:03:12 PM #4 I'm not for a "boycott" but I know what you are saying, it's insulting to see these Bitcoin technocrats and celebrities getting up on stage or on twitter yacking how the alt market is nothing but a den of crooks and thieves, yet they want to fork the innovations created in this "scam market" for themselves via sidechains.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:04:36 PM #5 Quote from: solid12345 on January 12, 2015, 03:03:12 PM I'm not for a "boycott" but I know what you are saying, it's insulting to see these Bitcoin technocrats and celebrities getting up on stage or on twitter yacking how the alt market is nothing but a den of crooks and thieves, yet they want to fork the innovations created in this "scam market" for themselves via sidechains.



exactly and the least we can do is oppose this ideology and propaganda.

They are all hypocrits pumping their own bags and nothing else.



Bitcoin is not superior to alts, in fact it is inferior to many alts exactly and the least we can do is oppose this ideology and propaganda.They are all hypocrits pumping their own bags and nothing else.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 457Merit: 250 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:08:38 PM #7 I agree that it suppresses progression and innovation in other cryptos, it's like a fat guy getting passed by a more fit person trying to hold him not letting him pass. Mjority of Bitcoin fans do the same by trying to talk shit on other projects attempting to not let them pass by, even if that project offers a real purpose and innovation, they get butthurt because its not bitcoin.



I'm a bitcoin supporter aswell but their fan base is getting retarded and not willing to open their fcking eyes to potential projects, especially some 2.0 startups which i hope to shine and put bitcoiners a lesson not to think bitcoin is the only true currency.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 448Merit: 250WikiScams.org - Information about Bitcoin Scams Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:15:49 PM #8 I blame the bubbles. What would have worked well is for Bitcoin to have gradually gained interest and mainstream adoption. Then the price would reflect this growing demand and the market cap would increase at a steadily rate that would have made the inflation irrelevant. Look at what happened in 2012 as an example. Bitcoin slowly appreciated in price in a sensible manner. Instead what we got were a series of bubbles, bear markets, and butthurt "investors". Bitcoin isn't the problem. We are.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:21:32 PM #9 Quote from: Bizmark13 on January 12, 2015, 03:15:49 PM I blame the bubbles. What would have worked well is for Bitcoin to have gradually gained interest and mainstream adoption. Then the price would reflect this growing demand and the market cap would increase at a steadily rate that would have made the inflation irrelevant. Look at what happened in 2012 as an example. Bitcoin slowly appreciated in price in a sensible manner. Instead what we got were a series of bubbles, bear markets, and butthurt "investors". Bitcoin isn't the problem. We are.



it's all pump and dump it's all pump and dump

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MemberActivity: 69Merit: 10 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:40:04 PM #12 Quote from: smalltimer on January 12, 2015, 02:33:04 PM



Bitcoin has become the cancer of cryptocurrency and holds back progress and surpresses the entire altcoin industry. It is a scam for early adopters and miners to get rich of YOUR money by hyping it up to the point of telling people 10million$ for a coin would be realistic. This is a get rich quick mentality and often times misleading marketing (comparison to gold while it is inflationary more than fiat) and bitcoin looks very, very much like a ponzi right now.





Hard to tell whether you're trolling (I suspect you are) but the cancer of cryptos are altcoin scams and it's the adopters of these shitcoins and scamscoins that actually want to 'get rich off your money by hyping it up'. Actually come to think about it I think you're trying to be ironic here lol. Hard to tell whether you're trolling (I suspect you are) but the cancer of cryptos are altcoin scams and it's the adopters of these shitcoins and scamscoins that actually want to 'get rich off your money by hyping it up'. Actually come to think about it I think you're trying to be ironic here lol.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:48:14 PM #13



discussion and arguments about mining is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918068.0



pow is not wasteful, pow with high inflation is. All arguments in the thread above



don't have time for the rest. Seen you comment in meta you wanted to get rid of altsection altogether

see here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=885736.0



so you are biased by the bag you are holding and thus i don't have time for arguments with you. Maybe on the other thread about the mining, yes. but not on this one.



This thread of yours just backs up my points @Blazrdiscussion and arguments about mining is here:pow is not wasteful, pow with high inflation is. All arguments in the thread abovedon't have time for the rest. Seen you comment in meta you wanted to get rid of altsection altogethersee here:so you are biased by the bag you are holding and thus i don't have time for arguments with you. Maybe on the other thread about the mining, yes. but not on this one.This thread of yours just backs up my points

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Sr. MemberActivity: 252Merit: 250 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 03:54:57 PM #14 Quote from: Dajve on January 12, 2015, 03:40:04 PM Quote from: smalltimer on January 12, 2015, 02:33:04 PM



Bitcoin has become the cancer of cryptocurrency and holds back progress and surpresses the entire altcoin industry. It is a scam for early adopters and miners to get rich of YOUR money by hyping it up to the point of telling people 10million$ for a coin would be realistic. This is a get rich quick mentality and often times misleading marketing (comparison to gold while it is inflationary more than fiat) and bitcoin looks very, very much like a ponzi right now.





Hard to tell whether you're trolling (I suspect you are) but the cancer of cryptos are altcoin scams and it's the adopters of these shitcoins and scamscoins that actually want to 'get rich off your money by hyping it up'. Actually come to think about it I think you're trying to be ironic here lol.

Hard to tell whether you're trolling (I suspect you are) but the cancer of cryptos are altcoin scams and it's the adopters of these shitcoins and scamscoins that actually want to 'get rich off your money by hyping it up'. Actually come to think about it I think you're trying to be ironic here lol.

yes, scams are a problem. And i suspect a good portion of those scams is orchestrated by the bitcoiners to hold the alts down and teach people "just stay with bitcoin". It also explains why these scams are allowed here. yes, scams are a problem. And i suspect a good portion of those scams is orchestrated by the bitcoiners to hold the alts down and teach people "just stay with bitcoin". It also explains why these scams are allowed here.

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Hero MemberActivity: 882Merit: 1004 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 04:01:24 PM #15 Quote from: smalltimer on January 12, 2015, 03:48:14 PM



discussion and arguments about mining is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918068.0



pow is not wasteful, pow with high inflation is. All arguments in the thread above



don't have time for the rest. Seen you comment in meta you wanted to get rid of altsection altogether

see here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=885736.0



so you are biased by the bag you are holding and thus i don't have time for arguments with you. Maybe on the other thread about the mining, yes. but not on this one.



This thread of yours just backs up my points

@Blazrdiscussion and arguments about mining is here:pow is not wasteful, pow with high inflation is. All arguments in the thread abovedon't have time for the rest. Seen you comment in meta you wanted to get rid of altsection altogethersee here:so you are biased by the bag you are holding and thus i don't have time for arguments with you. Maybe on the other thread about the mining, yes. but not on this one.This thread of yours just backs up my points

Actually I wanted to separate Bitcoin and altcoins, which makes a lot of sense.



That doesn't prove that I own Bitcoin, hence doesn't make me a "biased bagholder" I sold most of my Bitcoin when it was $30. All my points were completely unbiased.



You should also read up on the definition of the word inflation, you seem to be using it to mean something else:

Quote DEFINITION of 'Inflation'



The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling. Central banks attempt to stop severe inflation, along with severe deflation, in an attempt to keep the excessive growth of prices to a minimum. Actually I wanted to separate Bitcoin and altcoins, which makes a lot of sense.That doesn't prove that I own Bitcoin, hence doesn't make me a "biased bagholder" I sold most of my Bitcoin when it was $30. All my points were completely unbiased.You should also read up on the definition of the word inflation, you seem to be using it to mean something else: My PGP key: 0x5C34AC7629163393 || Keybase

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Hero MemberActivity: 882Merit: 1004 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 04:04:45 PM #16 Quote from: smalltimer on January 12, 2015, 03:54:57 PM Quote from: Dajve on January 12, 2015, 03:40:04 PM Quote from: smalltimer on January 12, 2015, 02:33:04 PM



Bitcoin has become the cancer of cryptocurrency and holds back progress and surpresses the entire altcoin industry. It is a scam for early adopters and miners to get rich of YOUR money by hyping it up to the point of telling people 10million$ for a coin would be realistic. This is a get rich quick mentality and often times misleading marketing (comparison to gold while it is inflationary more than fiat) and bitcoin looks very, very much like a ponzi right now.





Hard to tell whether you're trolling (I suspect you are) but the cancer of cryptos are altcoin scams and it's the adopters of these shitcoins and scamscoins that actually want to 'get rich off your money by hyping it up'. Actually come to think about it I think you're trying to be ironic here lol.

Hard to tell whether you're trolling (I suspect you are) but the cancer of cryptos are altcoin scams and it's the adopters of these shitcoins and scamscoins that actually want to 'get rich off your money by hyping it up'. Actually come to think about it I think you're trying to be ironic here lol.

yes, scams are a problem. And i suspect a good portion of those scams is orchestrated by the bitcoiners to hold the alts down and teach people "just stay with bitcoin". It also explains why these scams are allowed here.

yes, scams are a problem. And i suspect a good portion of those scams is orchestrated by the bitcoiners to hold the alts down and teach people "just stay with bitcoin". It also explains why these scams are allowed here.

Scams are not allowed here, but the staff won't "hold your hand", you have watch out for scams yourself.



In the altcoin world, it appears the majority of scamcoins are made by a very small number of people with lots of sockpuppets.



I find it hard to believe that the scamcoins arent driven by greed but by a desire to push Bitcoin. Thats some conspiracy right there. Scams are not allowed here, but the staff won't "hold your hand", you have watch out for scams yourself.In the altcoin world, it appears the majority of scamcoins are made by a very small number of people with lots of sockpuppets.I find it hard to believe that the scamcoins arent driven by greed but by a desire to push Bitcoin. Thats some conspiracy right there. My PGP key: 0x5C34AC7629163393 || Keybase

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Full MemberActivity: 574Merit: 104 Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! January 12, 2015, 04:05:56 PM #17 Could very well be there's kind of a conspiracy that's just not talked about open but kind of natural thing for bitcoiners to conspire to screw over altcoins without them even talking about it. It just so happens: the big bagholders will all agree 'bitcoin is the only real coin and on its success depends everything else' - that's the propaganda they put out every day. It's actually clear as day.