Shopify TSL 5 Update - Invitees, EPT, and Qualifiers Text by Julmust Graphics by Lip the Pencilboy The first rounds of qualifiers are now mere days away and you will find some important updates on them in this thread, regarding the sign-up process and updates on participation policy and starting times.



We are proud to announce that TSL5 will be part of the ESL Pro Tour, and will award 1520 EPT Points in total. You will find the exact breakdown of points below. We want to thank DreamHack and ESL for including us in the circuit, even though it forced them to accelerate their finalizing of the new rule-set for external tournaments. We sincerely appreciate it!



This thread will also introduce our invitees to TSL5, four world class players from the international and Korean circuits! The Four Invites The main event of the Shopify Team Liquid Starleague 5 starts on May 16th. Starting on Friday, twenty players will battle for their place in the bracket. The remaining four spots will be filled by a quartet of highly deserving players. We are excited to announce that Serral, Zest, INnoVation and ShoWTimE have accepted our invitation to join TSL 5.





Serral

Zest

INnoVation

ShoWTimE

When inviting players, we created a system based on two criteria: It had to be objective and verifiable. The system, once in place, should have no input from us. The system needs to strike a balance between Korean players and players from the rest of the world. With those criteria in mind, we chose to base the invites on the current EPT standings and have a 50/50 split between Korea and the rest of the world. We built one list of the highest ranked Korean players in the When inviting players, we created a system based on two criteria:With those criteria in mind, we chose to base the invites on the current EPT standings and have a 50/50 split between Korea and the rest of the world. We built one list of the highest ranked Korean players in the Korean EPT Standings and one list with the highest ranked non-Korean players on the Global EPT Standings . We then started at the top of both lists, inviting the players one-by-one. As you can infer from the final invitees, some Korean players declined invitations, but we are very happy with securing Zest and INnoVation as our Korean invitees. EPT Points In addition to the $30,000 prize pool, there are more than 1500 EPT points up for grabs. Here is the breakdown: EPT Points Breakdown Place Points 1st 250 2nd 180 3rd 140 4th 110 5th - 6th 85 7th - 8th 65 9th - 12th 50 13th - 16th 35 17th - 24th 25 Total: 1,520

In addition to the $30,000 prize pool, there are more than 1500 EPT points up for grabs. Here is the breakdown: Qualifier Updates Qualifier Sign-ups

The sign-up page for the qualifiers is now live. A hub with links to all the qualifiers can be found The sign-up page for the qualifiers is now live. A hub with links to all the qualifiers can be found here on ESL Play . The Qualifier info thread has been updated with a direct link to the individual server qualifiers. NA Qualifiers Update

After our initial post, several players reached out to us regarding the starting time for the North American qualifier. Both the EU and NA qualifiers are meant for players from both regions. With the current setup, North American players can fairly easily participate in the European qualifiers, but not vice versa. This was due to the starting time for the North American qualifiers. After discussions with players and DreamHack we have decided to move the starting time of the North American server qualifiers from 23:00 GMT (+00:00) to 21:00 GMT (+00:00). The Qualifier info thread has been updated to reflect this change. Korean Qualifiers Update

As a result of discussions with ESL and DreamHack regarding TSL5’s eligibility for ESL Pro Tour points, we have revised our participation policy for the Korean server qualifiers. Here are the new rules regarding participation in the Korean server qualifier: New policy: Players with South Korean nationality are only eligible to play in the Korean server qualifiers (no change). Players with citizenship or permanent residency in countries other than South Korea may choose to compete in EITHER the Global Qualifiers (NA/EU servers) or Korean server qualifiers. Old policy: The Korean server qualifiers are ONLY open to players who are citizens of South Korea or have obtained permanent residency in South Korea.The North America and European server qualifiers are open to anyone, EXCEPT players who are eligible for Korean qualifiers (players who are eligible for both qualifiers must choose between Korea or EU/NA). This change was primarily made to offer players from regions such as East Asia or Oceania an alternative to the NA/EU servers to ensure they could play under fair connection conditions. We believe this revised policy preserves TSL’s original goal of allowing broad international participation while also avoiding the ‘double-dipping’ issues of non-Korean players residing in Korea. Feedback

Please leave a message here, or contact Julmust if you have any questions. Let’s hear from you! The TSL is looking for community casters for the qualifiers. If you are interested in sharing your voice with the world, check out The TSL is looking for community casters for the qualifiers. If you are interested in sharing your voice with the world, check out this thread here The main event of the Shopify Team Liquid Starleague 5 starts on May 16th. Starting on Friday, twenty players will battle for their place in the bracket. The remaining four spots will be filled by a quartet of highly deserving players. We are excited to announce that Serral, Zest, INnoVation and ShoWTimE have accepted our invitation to join TSL 5. Administrator I'm dancing in the moonlight

Ej_ Profile Blog Joined January 2013 47288 Posts Last Edited: 2020-04-22 17:28:22 #2 Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament. "Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya

ZigguratOfUr Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Iraq 16050 Posts Last Edited: 2020-04-22 18:58:10 #3 Inviting based on EPT points does feel a bit like the rich getting richer. Admittedly that's probably a bit of a moot point given that all the invitees should qualify to IEM Katowice fairly easily (maybe it helps Showtime a bit). Maps I made recently: Nevermore: https://i.imgur.com/NiqR0Rj.jpg | Rubaiyat: https://i.imgur.com/XD3E3vd.jpg | Grand Canal: https://i.imgur.com/kNgyOCo.jpg

Olli Profile Blog Joined February 2012 Austria 24289 Posts #4 On April 23 2020 02:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

Inviting based on EPT points does feel a bit like the rich getting richer. Admittedly that's probably a bit of moot point given that all the invitees should qualify to IEM Katowice fairly easily (maybe it helps Showtime a bit).



We felt it was the only fair invite system. Not too dissimilar to GSL inviting top finishers of each previous season, only that we had no previous TSL to reasonably base this on. So we felt EPT ranking was at least based on some recent merit. We felt it was the only fair invite system. Not too dissimilar to GSL inviting top finishers of each previous season, only that we had no previous TSL to reasonably base this on. So we felt EPT ranking was at least based on some recent merit. Administrator "Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."

Waxangel Profile Blog Joined September 2002 United States 29163 Posts #5 On April 23 2020 02:27 Ej_ wrote:

Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament.



wow what if we had just invited the top four of TSL4 wow what if we had just invited the top four of TSL4 Administrator Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

StarcraftPeffo Profile Joined May 2019 Italy 61 Posts #6 Love this! Keep up the good work

Howard_Kao Profile Joined September 2018 China 184 Posts #7 On April 23 2020 02:48 Waxangel wrote:

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On April 23 2020 02:27 Ej_ wrote:

Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament.



wow what if we had just invited the top four of TSL4 wow what if we had just invited the top four of TSL4

Life got banned, sting retired, keen in military, only one to invite is creator who definitely won't get out of the korean qualifier. Maybe he will? Thats gonna be great. Life got banned, sting retired, keen in military, only one to invite is creator who definitely won't get out of the korean qualifier. Maybe he will? Thats gonna be great. First law of KZ: always being all-killed by a terran military returner in playoffs

catplanetcatplanet Profile Blog Joined March 2012 3361 Posts #8 hope he beasts it in the qualifier and gets his shot anyway I like to think that rogue and maru declined in the hopes that their buddy creator would get an invitehope he beasts it in the qualifier and gets his shot anyway 2020 year of pet

Circumstance Profile Blog Joined March 2014 United States 11123 Posts #9 It's good that we got two Protosses in the invite given recent patterns of results. Better chance of three-way parity that way. The world is better when every background has a chance.

digmouse Profile Blog Joined November 2010 China 5661 Posts #10 On April 23 2020 02:56 Howard_Kao wrote:

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On April 23 2020 02:48 Waxangel wrote:

On April 23 2020 02:27 Ej_ wrote:

Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament.



wow what if we had just invited the top four of TSL4 wow what if we had just invited the top four of TSL4

Life got banned, sting retired, keen in military, only one to invite is creator who definitely won't get out of the korean qualifier. Maybe he will? Thats gonna be great. Life got banned, sting retired, keen in military, only one to invite is creator who definitely won't get out of the korean qualifier. Maybe he will? Thats gonna be great.

And you have to go all the way down to 9-16th for players that are still relevant today which are Taeja and SpeCial. And you have to go all the way down to 9-16th for players that are still relevant today which are Taeja and SpeCial. Translator If you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.

Nakajin Profile Blog Joined September 2014 Canada 6579 Posts #11 On April 23 2020 04:31 catplanetcatplanet wrote:

I like to think that rogue and maru declined in the hopes that their buddy creator would get an invite hope he beasts it in the qualifier and gets his shot anyway I like to think that rogue and maru declined in the hopes that their buddy creator would get an invitehope he beasts it in the qualifier and gets his shot anyway



If only the next 20 korean player had done the same If only the next 20 korean player had done the same http://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg

stilt Profile Joined October 2012 France 1916 Posts Last Edited: 2020-04-22 21:30:29 #12 With 4 invitations, I don't get why there is ept points after the hsc debacle. Sorry for the bad grammar T_T

ZigguratOfUr Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Iraq 16050 Posts #13 On April 23 2020 06:30 stilt wrote:

With 4 invitations, I don't get why there is ept points after the hsc debacle.



The situation is quite different to be fair. StayAtHomestory Cup had more invites than qualified players which isn't the case here. Who gets invited for TSL does follow an objective criteria. And all of this is clear ahead of time whereas for StayAtHSC it was all very last minute. The situation is quite different to be fair. StayAtHomestory Cup had more invites than qualified players which isn't the case here. Who gets invited for TSL does follow an objective criteria. And all of this is clear ahead of time whereas for StayAtHSC it was all very last minute. Maps I made recently: Nevermore: https://i.imgur.com/NiqR0Rj.jpg | Rubaiyat: https://i.imgur.com/XD3E3vd.jpg | Grand Canal: https://i.imgur.com/kNgyOCo.jpg

argonautdice Profile Joined January 2013 Canada 2298 Posts #14 On April 23 2020 06:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

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On April 23 2020 06:30 stilt wrote:

With 4 invitations, I don't get why there is ept points after the hsc debacle.



The situation is quite different to be fair. StayAtHomestory Cup had more invites than qualified players which isn't the case here. Who gets invited for TSL does follow an objective criteria. And all of this is clear ahead of time whereas for StayAtHSC it was all very last minute. The situation is quite different to be fair. StayAtHomestory Cup had more invites than qualified players which isn't the case here. Who gets invited for TSL does follow an objective criteria. And all of this is clear ahead of time whereas for StayAtHSC it was all very last minute.

Still they should institute the "invites need to advance at least one round to receive EPT points" rule they had for previous points-giving tournaments with invites. Those small points could be make or break for some people and rather than having a controversy later it would be good to address this now. Still they should institute the "invites need to advance at least one round to receive EPT points" rule they had for previous points-giving tournaments with invites. Those small points could be make or break for some people and rather than having a controversy later it would be good to address this now. I've waited for Newbee flair for so long I am now waiting for BSG flair.

Xain0n Profile Joined November 2018 Italy 3180 Posts #15 On April 23 2020 02:27 Ej_ wrote:

Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament.



Creator will be glad he won't carry the responsibility of being invited in his current state.



Korean qualifiers being harder than the actual tournament?

Creator will be glad he won't carry the responsibility of being invited in his current state.Korean qualifiers being harder than the actual tournament?

argonautdice Profile Joined January 2013 Canada 2298 Posts #16 "Players with citizenship or permanent residency in countries other than South Korea may choose to compete in EITHER the Global Qualifiers (NA/EU servers) or Korean server qualifiers."



I'm assuming the "or" here is the exclusive or. I've waited for Newbee flair for so long I am now waiting for BSG flair.

DBooN Profile Joined May 2011 Germany 2462 Posts #17 On April 23 2020 08:20 Xain0n wrote:

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On April 23 2020 02:27 Ej_ wrote:

Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament.



Creator will be glad he won't carry the responsibility of being invited in his current state.



Korean qualifiers being harder than the actual tournament?

Creator will be glad he won't carry the responsibility of being invited in his current state.Korean qualifiers being harder than the actual tournament?

Yeah, players hate getting a chance to play in a tournament because of the responsibility that comes with it. Especially when not getting invited means a much more deserving player like serral gets to play. Yeah, players hate getting a chance to play in a tournament because of the responsibility that comes with it. Especially when not getting invited means a much more deserving player like serral gets to play.

Xophy Profile Joined June 2012 Germany 74 Posts #18 On April 23 2020 10:21 argonautdice wrote:

"Players with citizenship or permanent residency in countries other than South Korea may choose to compete in EITHER the Global Qualifiers (NA/EU servers) or Korean server qualifiers."



I'm assuming the "or" here is the exclusive or.



Well, "... either ... or" already specifies that it is exclusive, right? Well, "... either ... or" already specifies that it is exclusive, right?

RealityTheGreat Profile Joined January 2018 China 555 Posts #19 Renaissance? Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.

dbRic1203 Profile Joined July 2019 Germany 1406 Posts #20

While I think it would have been quite a fun site note, if Creator would have gotten an invite as well, I dont get how people are actually making deal out of it. (or is that just trolling, not sure tbh) I realy like the format and the fact they can give out EPT points, realy well doneWhile I think it would have been quite a fun site note, if Creator would have gotten an invite as well, I dont get how people are actually making deal out of it. (or is that just trolling, not sure tbh) MaxPax | Reynor | Clem

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