Run the Jewels’ EL-P and Killer Mike sat down with Rick Rubin for a new episode of his Broken Record podcast. They discussed their respective upbringings (EL in New York; Mike in the South), how they got into music, getting facts wrong while rapping, and more. Listen below.

Run the Jewels are readying their new album Run the Jewels 4, which is set to come out this spring. They recorded the LP at Rick Rubin’s Shangri-La Studios and Electric Lady in New York.

Run the Jewels are performing at this year’s Pitchfork Music Festival, which takes place from July 17-19 at Chicago’s Union Park. Tickets are available now.

Revisit Pitchfork’s interview “Run the Jewels’ Universal Theory of Not Giving a Fuck.”