lol i feel like youre the one projecting and getting defensive over my steroid comment- i wasnt trying to start an argument, i even started my post off with sorry if this was covered. Just offering my insight AND what ive seen with others. Getting on steroids to make yourself attractive to women is a BAD IDEA. I'm not knocking steroids in general, they are a great tool for seasoned lifters and athletes looking to get to the next level. But the pros dont outweigh the cons for your average lifter, and if you arent a seasoned lifter you probably wont even get that much out of steroid use and be left worse off then had you not used them. Ive never used but in my younger years ive seen more then a few friends after 2-3 years of lifting attempt to use steroids and get nothing out of them, and be worse off then before they used them.



I didnt want to get in this involved of a debate, i came here from reddit based on ops post and success with SETI. The first thing i read was him questioning steroid use and i felt based on my experience i would offer a little insight. Didnt mean to trigger you king of fighters.

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