Something you’ve probably noticed about Donald Trump by now is that the man is a full-fledged pathological liar. Whether it‘s big lies like “imminent” attacks on Americans or small lies like the number of people at a Beto O’Rourke rally, if there’s an opportunity to lie, the 45th president of the United States will jump on it like a spread of fast food laid out on the White House’s finest china. For Donald J. Trump, no lie is too ridiculous, as evidenced by the claims that Hurricane Dorian was going to hit Alabama, that Ivanka Trump has created 14 million jobs, and that he, Donald Trump, “saved” the pre-existing provision in Obamacare. Some people collect stamps or take up Jazzercise—Donald Trump lies.

And while many of Trump’s lies are stupid and pointless and have little effect other than to potentially drive a person to scream “Jesus fucking Christ do you ever tell the truth about anything you unrepentant lunatic,” other lies very much impact people’s lives. For instance, the one he told on the 2016 campaign trail about how he will never touch Medicare (or Social Security, for that matter), which he basically admitted on Wednesday was another one of his patented whoppers. (Without actually admitting it, of course; the Second Law of Trump Lies is to never, ever cop to the fact that he’s completely full of shit, even if there is literally audio or video proving as much.)

In an interview with CNBC, Trump was asked, “Entitlements ever [going to] be on your plate?” To which the man who said “I’m not going to cut Social Security like every other Republican and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid” responded, “At some point they will be. We have tremendous growth. We’re going to have tremendous growth. This next year I—it’ll be toward the end of the year. The growth is going to be incredible. And at the right time, we will take a look at that. You know, that’s actually the easiest of all things, if you look, cause it’s such a big percentage.”

Asked specifically about Medicaid, Trump told host Joe Kernen, “We’re going to look” and then launched into a typical speech about how he‘s done so much for African Americans, who despise him, and failing to give his predecessor any credit whatsoever for the numbers: