Liquid`Sheth Profile Blog Joined March 2010 United States 2094 Posts #1



The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.



However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.



I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?



If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,



Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands.



So I just wanted to write a really small blog to just let people know what's going on with me. I'm going to keep it short and to the point. My hands had been improving. (Ha if I had a nickel for every time I said this.) I've started doing 2 or so hours a day of SC2 every day. I even casted with TB on Clan Wars, and for LSC this last weekend. I casted at LSC controlling the mouse (poorly) for a very long period of time, without my hands getting much worse even.The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands. Team Liquid Underneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.

Blazinghand Profile Blog Joined December 2010 United States 25127 Posts #2 Taking the pressure off your hands for a little while sounds like a good idea, and might just be the thing that lets you fully recover. I hope your hands feel better! When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.

Jacmert Profile Blog Joined October 2011 Canada 1605 Posts #3 I'm sure it must be hard, but I hope you put your health first! Plat Support Main #believe

EsportsJohn Profile Blog Joined June 2012 United States 4833 Posts #4 .Take it easy, man! We'll always be waiting for you when you get back!



Also, I hope your diet is still going well too. You made a bunch of positive life changes (or at least, it seemed to me) almost a year ago, and I really do hope it has been helping you to improve overall as a person. Just keep it up and make sure you're taking care of yourself! Like I said, we'll be waiting for your return . I've had tendonitis in my right wrist off and on for about 4 years now, so I totally understand the feeling of "just living with dull pain" :/. But as long as you're resting it, treating it, and exercising/stretching it properly, it should start to improve.Take it easy, man! We'll always be waiting for you when you get back!Also, I hope your diet is still going well too. You made a bunch of positive life changes (or at least, it seemed to me) almost a year ago, and I really do hope it has been helping you to improve overall as a person. Just keep it up and make sure you're taking care of yourself! Like I said, we'll be waiting for your return Strategy

felisconcolori Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 6166 Posts #5 Not sure how it might help (depends on your specific problem) but have you tried some of the different ergo/therapeutic mice on the market? Probably wouldn't be great for gaming, but it may help you with general computer use to avoid pain. A friend of mine has fibro, horrible RST in her wrists, and a boatload of other issues. She can only use a joystick-style mouse - rather than the normal grip surface and buttons, it's shaped like a joystick with the buttons on the stick but glides and tracks like a normal mouse with the sensor in the base.



In any case, if you can avoid pain it's better than living with it (I'm in near constant low grade pain for reasons no doctor can yet explain, but it may have something to do with my degenerating C4 disc) - advil sucks. So does Alleve. Other things don't suck so much, but have their own drawbacks (oxycotin, any of the 'sets, ultram, mobic, etc, etc.) Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?

Liquid`Zephyr Profile Blog Joined October 2006 United States 984 Posts #6 hearthstone beckons Team Liquid PoorUser

ZombieGrub Profile Blog Joined May 2011 United States 627 Posts #7 Your situation and mine sounds kind of similar. ): I'm constantly thinking about what I have to do now to ensure I can do something stable in the future, when it comes to my health. I checked your last blog and while you said your doctor was confident you would be healthy again...well, it doesn't sound like he was correct in his diagnosis/treatment. I'mma tell you what worked for me - if this is already advice you've gotten, sorry!, but here it goes: have you talked to anyone who said the problem started in your neck/shoulders?



I had wrist/arm pain for about two years now. For the first year and a half I went to the same therapist/doctor combo and they always focused on my arm. They told me it was just tendonitis, and things like 'rest it and it will be okay'. I tried resting. I didn't touch a computer for more than two hours a day for a month. Pretty much exactly what you're thinking of doing. It was terrible. And it all resulted in the same pain. Dulled pain, but still pain.



What really worked was going to a therapist who looked above just the arm. They diagnosed me with mild tennis elbow and worked my neck/shoulders more than anything else. Now when I do neck/shoulder stretches as opposed to just hand/wrist stretches, I can feel it working. Gradually the pain stopped being so severe in my wrist, and now when I play for extended periods of time, my body is finally alerting me to the real problems by making my neck sore/tight.



I would go into deeper detail but I'm not sure if you've already tried this approach or what. If you have, sorry for the TL;DR! If not, it's definitely something to look into. Wasting a month doing nothing you enjoy for the promise of no more pain only to be met with it again is, well, fucking infuriating.



Either way, however you decide to get healthy, good luck! I hope to still see you casting somewhat, cuz as long as there's a dedicated observer you can just follow and be done with it, it isn't so bad.

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mrRoflpwn Profile Blog Joined February 2011 United States 2611 Posts #8 I hope you keep on casting atleast. I loved it this past weekend for Lone Star. You could maybe just set your screen to follow another caster so you do not have to be an observer. Long live the Boss Toss!

shindigs Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 4775 Posts #9 I do hope you stay involved, whether through casting or streaming hearthstone/mafia. Photographer @shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs

oneill12 Profile Joined February 2012 Romania 1135 Posts #10 play hearthstone a bit? gl with everthing. Fight the good fight

ImAdonis Profile Joined May 2013 15 Posts #11 Sounds like a plan, Sheth. Wish you the best.

vjcamarena Profile Joined October 2013 Spain 493 Posts #12

Take care and hope to see you eSporting around in any capacity Sheth, man, take care of yourself, first and foremost. That's all we fans want you to do.Take care and hope to see you eSporting around in any capacity Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron

looknohands119 Profile Joined March 2010 United States 814 Posts Last Edited: 2014-05-07 21:56:43 #13 On May 08 2014 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:

Taking the pressure off your hands for a little while sounds like a good idea, and might just be the thing that lets you fully recover. I hope your hands feel better!



Blazinghand, your name is uniquely relevant. Shawn, I hope the month off goes well and and that you'll be feeling well enough to after to start playing a bit more. Good luck and I hope work/school goes well in the meantime. <3



P.S. Will you be at MLG? I miss killing/being killed by you in mafia.



Edit: We should also play Hearthstone sometime. :D Blazinghand, your name is uniquely relevant. Shawn, I hope the month off goes well and and that you'll be feeling well enough to after to start playing a bit more. Good luck and I hope work/school goes well in the meantime. <3P.S. Will you be at MLG? I miss killing/being killed by you in mafia.Edit: We should also play Hearthstone sometime. :D "The kingdom of the heavens is buried treasure. Would you sell yourself to buy the one you've found?" - Jon Foreman ('Your Love Is Strong' - Spring EP)

Pontius Pirate Profile Blog Joined August 2013 United States 1556 Posts #14 Aww, I was hoping you'd continue with casting. The series you casted with TB was in need of some preparation, particularly in regards to the unique maps, and it would've been nice to see you build upon that. "I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream

sparklyresidue Profile Joined August 2011 United States 5514 Posts #15 We want you to stay in eSports! Thanks for the update. Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.

BigFan Profile Blog Joined December 2010 TLADT 24439 Posts #16 On May 08 2014 03:42 Liquid`Sheth wrote:

So I just wanted to write a really small blog to just let people know what's going on with me. I'm going to keep it short and to the point. My hands had been improving. (Ha if I had a nickel for every time I said this.) I've started doing 2 or so hours a day of SC2 every day. I even casted with TB on Clan Wars, and for LSC this last weekend. I casted at LSC controlling the mouse (poorly) for a very long period of time, without my hands getting much worse even.



The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.



However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.



I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?



If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,



Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands.

Taking off a month to rest your hands is a good idea. Having said that, if the advil isn't working and it's still pretty painful, the next step up is usually opioids. Take a look at tylenol #1. I dunno how pharmacies work in the US but up here, you can just ask for tylenol #1 and the pharmacist will give it to you and counsel you on it if its needed. No prescription required and it can possibly help with your pain. Thanks for keeping us up to date and good luck! Taking off a month to rest your hands is a good idea. Having said that, if the advil isn't working and it's still pretty painful, the next step up is usually opioids. Take a look at tylenol #1. I dunno how pharmacies work in the US but up here, you can just ask for tylenol #1 and the pharmacist will give it to you and counsel you on it if its needed. No prescription required and it can possibly help with your pain. Thanks for keeping us up to date and good luck! Former BW EiC "Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017

FuZZyFroG Profile Joined December 2010 United States 13 Posts #17 On May 08 2014 10:47 BigFan wrote:

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On May 08 2014 03:42 Liquid`Sheth wrote:

So I just wanted to write a really small blog to just let people know what's going on with me. I'm going to keep it short and to the point. My hands had been improving. (Ha if I had a nickel for every time I said this.) I've started doing 2 or so hours a day of SC2 every day. I even casted with TB on Clan Wars, and for LSC this last weekend. I casted at LSC controlling the mouse (poorly) for a very long period of time, without my hands getting much worse even.



The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.



However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.



I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?



If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,



Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands.

Taking off a month to rest your hands is a good idea. Having said that, if the advil isn't working and it's still pretty painful, the next step up is usually opioids. Take a look at tylenol #1. I dunno how pharmacies work in the US but up here, you can just ask for tylenol #1 and the pharmacist will give it to you and counsel you on it if its needed. No prescription required and it can possibly help with your pain. Thanks for keeping us up to date and good luck! Taking off a month to rest your hands is a good idea. Having said that, if the advil isn't working and it's still pretty painful, the next step up is usually opioids. Take a look at tylenol #1. I dunno how pharmacies work in the US but up here, you can just ask for tylenol #1 and the pharmacist will give it to you and counsel you on it if its needed. No prescription required and it can possibly help with your pain. Thanks for keeping us up to date and good luck!



hey man, like you I want what is best for sheth and that he gets better, but as a student in pharmacy school, I dont think it is our place to be giving health advice casually and suggesting someone start taking opioids. Especially since we dont know what is causing the pain and what his diagnosis is. Hope you dont feel offended or anything, im not flauting my knowledge (which i dont have any yet) I just feel obligated to comment on this as I am going to be in the medical field somewhere.



Hope the docs figure this out and that you get better soon sheth!

hey man, like you I want what is best for sheth and that he gets better, but as a student in pharmacy school, I dont think it is our place to be giving health advice casually and suggesting someone start taking opioids. Especially since we dont know what is causing the pain and what his diagnosis is. Hope you dont feel offended or anything, im not flauting my knowledge (which i dont have any yet) I just feel obligated to comment on this as I am going to be in the medical field somewhere.Hope the docs figure this out and that you get better soon sheth! I <3 Starcraft https://sites.google.com/site/teamelementalclan/

ninazerg Profile Blog Joined October 2009 United States 7264 Posts #18 I thought you were going to talk about Liquid`Fluff for some reason. "If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky

Blazinghand Profile Blog Joined December 2010 United States 25127 Posts #19 On May 08 2014 06:43 looknohands119 wrote:

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On May 08 2014 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:

Taking the pressure off your hands for a little while sounds like a good idea, and might just be the thing that lets you fully recover. I hope your hands feel better!



Blazinghand, your name is uniquely relevant. Shawn, I hope the month off goes well and and that you'll be feeling well enough to after to start playing a bit more. Good luck and I hope work/school goes well in the meantime. <3



P.S. Will you be at MLG? I miss killing/being killed by you in mafia.



Edit: We should also play Hearthstone sometime. :D Blazinghand, your name is uniquely relevant. Shawn, I hope the month off goes well and and that you'll be feeling well enough to after to start playing a bit more. Good luck and I hope work/school goes well in the meantime. <3P.S. Will you be at MLG? I miss killing/being killed by you in mafia.Edit: We should also play Hearthstone sometime. :D



I don't think I've played mafia OR hearthstone with you? I don't think I've played mafia OR hearthstone with you? When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.

dravernor Profile Blog Joined May 2013 Netherlands 5654 Posts #20 Nice to hear an update, I've missed watching your streams, they were always incredibly informative. I hope the break will help ^_^ <3

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