Mary MacCarthy:

Well, I must say, Judy, this is very much a community that is still on edge after the horror of the late-night shooting, many hours throughout the morning waiting to see who had survived, who, sadly, who were among the deceased and who was in the hospital with injuries.

I spoke to one mother who said that she lives very close to the Borderline Bar and Grill, which is just in this shopping mall behind us. She said that, on Wednesday nights, the community knows it's going to be a noisy night there, it's college night, so used to there being a lot of noise into the early hours of morning.

It suddenly became eerily silent, she said, around 11:30 p.m. She knew something was wrong. She touched base with her own college-aged children, found out, fortunately, they were safe, but she said one of her daughters had a friend who she wasn't able to get in touch with at the point I had spoken to her.

And in this small Thousand Oaks town, it seems that everybody either knows someone who goes to the bar or who might have been there that night, everyone deeply affected.