Well, perhaps. Trouble is we have higher taxation than the majority of EU countries but greater levels of inequality. Removing European checks and balances leaves one obvious model, the "freedom" of unfettered free market capitalism and all the joys that brings. Meaning that we lurch ever more towards a US-style model of extreme wealth and extreme destitution. That furthers a society at risk of spending more on weapons than welfare, more on hatred than healthcare and more on exploitation than on education.One might note that those who believe we're better off not sticking two fingers up to the rest of the world are not generally lacking in education, ranging from Prof. A. C. Grayling to the plainer language of Billy Bragg ; if you favour the world of business over academia or the arts, perhaps we should consider the views of the chief economist of the Bank of England , or the CEO of a major Swiss bank , or of several major fund managers Indeed it was a 'win' for social media (I'm not sure the resulting Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act will be - mass data retention and other nasties); we didn't see much of that based on any demonstrable 'truth' or even in most cases a cogent argument. It was a 'win' for those who believe that the solution to all things is to scream "ENGLAND!" at the top of their lungs and then to drive home in their French car to drink Belgian lager with their Italian dinner whilst watching American animated comedy on a Japanese television set. In all seriousness, if there are any decent arguments for Britain leaving Europe, I remain open to hearing them. But this is a lively and ongoing debate here, and no cogent argument has yet been brought forth that I am aware of. If you know something we're missing, do tell us. Regarding the notion that those in favour of Euroe should "fuck off to the country they'd be happy in", many have or already are. This is the flight of intellectual capital that I described above; there is a massive "brain drain" affecting Britain presently as those with the intelligence and the means do precisely that. For the moment I'm unable to follow suit (rather, I choose to remain close to aging family members) and there is a real risk that never mind being 'free' to trade with the rest of the world, I may not when the time comes be 'free' to travel, work or live in another country without requiring a visa. On a happier note, when the time comes, my prospects in that regard are decent enough to settle elsewhere, though to do so may feel like an exercise in "bugger you, Jack, I'm all right" as regards those I leave behind.Much as I welcome intelligent discussion (even if most of it does seem needlessly prescriptive and hostile so far), perhaps we should make a thread for it or park it. As I thought I'd made clear, I replied to an enquiry about T-shirts with such issues as are relevant to my interest in having one sent here. That being agreeably sorted, Reuben has one more customer, maybe two.Yet this seems to have ignited as much discussion on whether I/we/Britain/Europe should fall out or f*** off - or all of the above - as the more constructively minded among us have had about shipping T-shirts to Europe. To be blunt, I'm too old and jaded to think Britain is relevant, or that I am, or that you are. Whatever your political positioning, the added helpings of hostility just come off as abrasive and xenophobic. I'm not upset, but it strikes me as unhelpful to the wider Dash community and to efforts to improve global uptake of Dash if constructive discussions among the community are routinely swamped by sniping. If I wanted a currency whose reach and value were to be determined by a braying herd, I'd stick with GBP. Meanwhile, do we better interest people in Dash by using it and trading in it, or by tarring it with the same attitudes that make fiat currency unsafe? Back to T-shirts, please.