In this episode:

Chris Avellone discusses Planescape: Torment, Fallout: New Vegas, and player expectations in RPGs. Find out more about Fallout: New Vegas and Chris’ other projects at http://obsidianent.com.

Ian Bogost tells us about the dangers of developing satirical social games and the impending Cowpocalypse in Cow Clicker. Find more from Ian at http://bogost.com.

Music:

Music during the interview segments in this episode is by Dave Logan.

Background music for the opening interview montage and hosting segments is provided by DJ Funken Wagnalls.