Her last few sentences give her away: “It would be very problematic if we were to see it [the Islamic State] as relating to Islam and say that these people hate the West because they are Muslims. Thatʹs exactly what they want. They want a religious conflict to arise. We should not do them the favor.”

The Muslims of the Islamic State, and of every other Muslim terrorist group, do indeed hate the West, or rather hate all Infidels, including those outside the West, because that is what they have been taught.That is what the Qur’an — see, as noted in the first part of this piece, such representative verses as Qur’an 2:191-193, 4:89, 8:12, 8:60, 9:5, 9:29, 47:4, 98:6 which have taught them, to despise “the most vile of creatures,” to hate them, and to make war upon the Infidels. Their goal has not changed in 1,400 years: to subjugate first this Infidel land and then that, and to continue to wage Jihad until Islam everywhere dominates, and Muslims rule, everywhere.

Souad Mekhennet says that it is these fanatics who are trying to turn this into a “religious conflict.” No, they are not “trying” to turn it into a religious conflict. It always was a religious conflict, as far as Muslims are concerned. They have been engaged in this religious conflict — jihad against the Infidels — for 1,400 years. In the Middle East, in North Africa, in Spain, in France as far as Tours in 732 A.D., in Sassanian Persia, in the Byzantine Empire, in Hindustan, in Afghanistan, and beyond into the East Indies. They are waging Jihad now, not just through terrorism, though that unsurprisingly receives the greatest attention, but also employing many other instruments of warfare, including propaganda (e.g., the invention of the “Palestinian people”), diplomacy (the Oslo Accords, the Iran deal), economic boycotts (the “oil weapon” in 1973, the BDS movement), and he latest arrow in the quiver is demographic Jihad, which has been made possible by the catastrophic admission of millions of Muslims, who arrive, settle, and proceed to outbreed their Infidel hosts, right in the historic center of our civilization, Western Europe.

Soued Mekhennet is pushing a bewildering line we have heard, and many have despaired over, since 9/11. It is that we mustn’t “let the terrorists win” by thinking that “these people hate the West because they are Muslims. Thatʹs exactly what they want.” And since we must never do “exactly what they want,” under no conditions should we conclude that Muslims hate non-Muslims because that is what they have been taught. The absurdity is palpable. Let’s not get confused. Here’s what many Muslims, whether they are in or out of IS or Al-Qaeda, want: They want to wage war, using all manner of means, including terrorism, propaganda, diplomacy, economic warfare, and demography, against Infidels, and at the same time to sow confusion among them. What “they want” is simply to continue to be admitted in by the generous welfare states of the West, allowed to settle deep behind what they have been taught to regard as enemy lines, and all the while, to keep their Infidel victims from clearly grasping the nature of the war without end that is being waged against them. For they want to delay the day of recognition, when the Kuffar, realizing that they cannot either integrate their Muslim population, or “de-radicalise” the potentially most dangerous Muslims in their midst, decide both to halt all further Muslim immigration, and to take steps to send back to their countries of origin those who were so carelessly allowed in. The carrot of a one-time payment to Muslim immigrants to return home could be combined with the stick of requiring these economic migrants to work, assigning them to the most menial of tasks — clean-up crews for highways, sanitation men, ditch diggers. And if they refuse to accept such work, they should be stripped of benefits, steadily and systematically, until few of those generous benefits are left. The welfare states of Western Europe were created for, and paid for through taxes by, their native non-Muslims. Those benefits ideally ought to be theirs alone.

One more time, let’s note what Souad Mekhennet told her interviewer from Deutsche Welle at the very end of the interview:

“It would be very problematic if we were to see it [IS] as relating to Islam and say that these people hate the West because they are Muslims. Thatʹs exactly what they want. They want a religious conflict to arise. We should not do them the favor.”

What is that word “problematic” supposed to mean? Is it a way of saying “bad” or “unacceptable” without coming right out and using those words? Does it carry as well the meaning “it will make for problems and we don’t want that”? What we want to know is whether or not the statement that “these people [Muslim terrorists] hate the West because they are Muslims” is true, or false; that is all that matters. The statement is true: more than 100 Qur’anic verses command Muslims to wage Jihad whenever they can, and over 1,400 years Muslims have dutifully done so. Souad Mekhennet cannot convince us to ignore, as she does, either the Qur’anic text, or the acts that naturally were prompted by those texts.

Some Muslims don’t care if we recognize the nature, and centrality, of Jihad in Islam. They are perfectly willing to announce to the world their goal of destroying the Unbelievers, and why they are doing what they do, often citing sura and ayat. Abu Bakr Al-Baghadi, Anwar Al-Awlaki, and Anjem Choudary are examples of Muslims who have been forthright about their intentions. Many other Muslims, however, would prefer that we Infidels be kept in the dark, and whistling, for as long as possible, until Muslim numbers in the West are so great that non-Muslims will be unable to regain control of their own countries. They keep denying that there is any religious conflict; they tell us again and again, in the face of all the evidence from texts and from history, how Islam means peace, means tolerance, means no compulsion in religion, means getting along splendidly with “other faith communities.” Ask-A-Muslim Anything, and that’s what he’ll tell you, not because he believes it, but because he wants you to believe it. For these Muslims, who prefer to deploy taqiyya and tu-quoque, as they continue waging a Stealth Jihad, with more than 40 million Muslims now living in Europe and outbreeding their hosts, it is best that we Infidels not recognize that we are in a war — neither Theresa May nor Angela Merkel understands that war is being waged on their people from within — nor that we grasp, in sufficient numbers, the true nature of that war as a “religious conflict.” This buys the Jihadis time. Souad shoudn’t mind if we re-purpose her words: That’s exactly what they want. We should not do them the favor.