“I was always looking for an excuse to have job where I could listen to music. If I was bartending or waiting tables, I just wanted to find something where I could play music all day long. That was all that was important to me. I didn’t care about the style of music,” he says. “The music thing is, once it gets you, it’s a really bad drug — you can’t let go. There’s nothing else I’d want to do.”

Although he is the first to admit, being a business owner was something he stumbled into, a happy accident that has turned into a 30-year career. “I wanted to play some good Cure albums,” he laughs. “and my brother always wanted to cook. I found the original venue on a lark. I didn’t have a penny to my name. I put an offer on the building and the offer, to my surprise, got accepted. We were by the seat of our pants — we didn’t know what we were doing. This whole trip has been pretty lucky.”