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[65.55.34.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p84si15375316pfi.134.2016.02.11.15.06.46 for <john.podesta@gmail.com> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of brentbbi@webtv.net designates 65.55.34.146 as permitted sender) client-ip=65.55.34.146; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of brentbbi@webtv.net designates 65.55.34.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=brentbbi@webtv.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.34.137]) by COL004-OMC3S8.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:06:46 -0800 Received: from SN1PR17MB0205.namprd17.prod.outlook.com (10.162.247.157) by SN1PR17MB0205.namprd17.prod.outlook.com (10.162.247.157) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.403.16; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:06:44 +0000 Received: from SN1PR17MB0205.namprd17.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.247.157]) by SN1PR17MB0205.namprd17.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.247.157]) with mapi id 15.01.0403.017; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:06:44 +0000 From: Brent Budowsky <brentbbi@webtv.net> To: John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Superdelegates Thread-Topic: Superdelegates Thread-Index: AQHRZR01UkSh5a8jBEieoPWfzgbEyJ8nckGAgAAFPZw= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:06:44 +0000 Message-ID: <SN1PR17MB0205EAF1BEF289E465CE7897DFA80@SN1PR17MB0205.namprd17.prod.outlook.com> References: <SN1PR17MB0205C0512294975D61B1CCCCDFA80@SN1PR17MB0205.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>,<CAE6FiQ8ufx+sWEMKUWpc_=Ldrp7LOvHn_UK6W+k_o6PZGV35DQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAE6FiQ8ufx+sWEMKUWpc_=Ldrp7LOvHn_UK6W+k_o6PZGV35DQ@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: gmail.com; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;gmail.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=webtv.net; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [4fue3Jr7qKvRybhSeQGxCuyKNtPADXul] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;SN1PR17MB0205;5:OFZpoFLNZEK6sIXrrMN9NYjGYEpY2VEGgbg/JB7OBFc3Rv2cAPeUl9WFYzkivNLGHYCVmOpDXpNNSbLgUq8TV6VWtW+1wjrcAAFVnMC1LfGxh/11fpXvyNeVTUagX1LGbs4zPiRm4fTkcikBIt2MEA==;24:4F/NBvgjvYr99Adbg9c0jSSSx7rcu+Iqu1+aff6uid0QqqjboHO2qlgktMNti+2ET6hwGeSsEaGXmLeym8dqN6wQIYCECL6LBWkSuO8kNNo= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:SN1PR17MB0205; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 2449a288-e2ca-4c4c-6dd1-08d3333802a9 x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(432015012)(82015046);SRVR:SN1PR17MB0205;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:SN1PR17MB0205; x-forefront-prvs: 08497C3D99 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(7070004)(377454003)(24454002)(450100001)(10400500002)(102836003)(2900100001)(3480700003)(74316001)(586003)(189998001)(2950100001)(19580405001)(19580395003)(77096005)(86362001)(99286002)(107886002)(87936001)(11100500001)(110136002)(76576001)(92566002)(16236675004)(33656002)(106116001)(5003630100001)(40100003)(5008740100001)(122556002)(221733001)(76176999)(5002640100001)(50986999)(54356999)(3660700001)(3280700002)(1220700001);DIR:OUT;SFP:1901;SCL:1;SRVR:SN1PR17MB0205;H:SN1PR17MB0205.namprd17.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;MLV:sfv;LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SN1PR17MB0205EAF1BEF289E465CE7897DFA80SN1PR17MB0205namp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sct-15-1-318-15-msonline-outlook-9143d.templateTenant X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 11 Feb 2016 23:06:44.3965 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN1PR17MB0205 Return-Path: brentbbi@webtv.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2016 23:06:46.0254 (UTC) FILETIME=[E13AC8E0:01D16520] --_000_SN1PR17MB0205EAF1BEF289E465CE7897DFA80SN1PR17MB0205namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I totally agree with you about 2008 and Obama. 100%. My point today is th= at if she says now that superdelegates should vote with the people, that gi= ves her a big lift. And any other answer hurts. And my guess is she has the nomination wrapped by Mid March to Mid April, i= t is inconceivable Bernie wins the nomination, and she gets huge goodwill a= nd public support by saying she wants to win it the old fashioned and right= way. Consider alternative answers....Congress is the least popular instit= ution in America and political establishments are close behind.....to separ= ate herself from that would be a very good move.....and to even imply she c= ould accept a nomination given by the establishment over the will of voters= would be more damage to her..... At any rate, she will be publicly asked soon....better to have thought this= through right now.....and I bet if you follow my advice here you will be v= ery happy about it. But I sure do agree with you about 2008... Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2016, at 5:47 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com<mailto:jo= hn.podesta@gmail.com>> wrote: If we lose the popular vote, which we intend to win, can't imagine she will be the nominee, but just for the record, she got more votes than O= bama in 08 and graciously endorsed him so enough of Bernie's team bullshit = conspiracies. On Thursday, February 11, 2016, Brent Budowsky <brentbbi@webtv.net<mailto:b= rentbbi@webtv.net>> wrote: Hillary should publicly state that superdelegates should vote for whomever = the primary and caucus voters choose if there is a clear majority for a can= didate. That she wants to earn the nomination from voters and not be selec= ted by insiders against the will of a majority of primary and caucus voters= . That would do wonders for her. The only alternative is that when she is= asked now she says she might accept a nomination from superdelegates who v= iolate the will of the majority, which would be a disaster, or she give a l= awyer-like weasel answer that hedges, which would be almost as bad. Looking at the cost/benefits of alternative answers, this is a no brainer a= nd she should think about her options now before the issue escalates which = is imminent. She does not want to give an answer that is not carefully tho= ught through. Sent from my iPad --_000_SN1PR17MB0205EAF1BEF289E465CE7897DFA80SN1PR17MB0205namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > </head> <body dir=3D"auto"> <div>I totally agree with you about 2008 and Obama. 100%. My po= int today is that if she says now that superdelegates should vote with the = people, that gives her a big lift. And any other answer hurts.</div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">And my guess is she has the nomination wrapp= ed by Mid March to Mid April, it is inconceivable Bernie wins the nominatio= n, and she gets huge goodwill and public support by saying she wants to win= it the old fashioned and right way. Consider alternative answers....Congress is the least popular instit= ution in America and political establishments are close behind.....to separ= ate herself from that would be a very good move.....and to even imply she c= ould accept a nomination given by the establishment over the will of voters would be more damage to her.....</di= v> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">At any rate, she will be publicly asked soon= ....better to have thought this through right now.....and I bet if you foll= ow my advice here you will be very happy about it.</div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">But I sure do agree with you about 2008...<b= r> <br> Sent from my iPad</div> <div><br> On Feb 11, 2016, at 5:47 PM, John Podesta <<a href=3D"mailto:john.podest= a@gmail.com">john.podesta@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div>If we lose the popular vote, which we intend to win, can't imagin= e <div>she will be the nominee, but just for the record, she got more votes t= han Obama in 08 and graciously endorsed him so enough of Bernie's team = ;bullshit conspiracies.<br> <br> On Thursday, February 11, 2016, Brent Budowsky <<a href=3D"mailto:brentb= bi@webtv.net">brentbbi@webtv.net</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hillary should publicly state that superdelegates should vote for whomever = the primary and caucus voters choose if there is a clear majority for a can= didate. That she wants to earn the nomination from voters and not be = selected by insiders against the will of a majority of primary and caucus voters. That would do wonders fo= r her. The only alternative is that when she is asked now she says sh= e might accept a nomination from superdelegates who violate the will of the= majority, which would be a disaster, or she give a lawyer-like weasel answer that hedges, which would be almost as bad= .<br> <br> Looking at the cost/benefits of alternative answers, this is a no brainer a= nd she should think about her options now before the issue escalates which = is imminent. She does not want to give an answer that is not carefull= y thought through.<br> <br> Sent from my iPad</blockquote> </div> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html> --_000_SN1PR17MB0205EAF1BEF289E465CE7897DFA80SN1PR17MB0205namp_--