While the National are still on tour supporting their 2013 album Trouble Will Find Me, the band is setting their sights on making a new record. In an interview with Gigwise, frontman Matt Berninger revealed the band’s plans to get together in October to begin work on their seventh studio album.

For the first time, the band plans to to write together in the same room, as Berninger explained, “We always work on little things and email back and forth. We have no idea whether it’s going to work or not, but that’s as far as we’ve got with the new record: trying to work out a plan and a different approach.”

“That might fail miserably,” Berninger added, “but then we’ll try it a different way.”

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This new approach comes from an urge to mix things up following a string of solid, albeit sonically similar albums. He continued, “I think we all feel that if we make another record like we’ve made the last three or four – we don’t need to do that.”

While Berninger admitted progress has been “very slow” and that the band is unsure what their new direction will sound like, he joked, “it’s not going to be a hip-hop record, I’m pretty sure. I wish we could, but I’m terrible at that, I’ve tried.”

Below, watch the band perform “Graceless” on Saturday Night Live earlier this year.