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I refuse to buy mandatory health insurance that supports corrupt conventional medicine Below from Natural News. My sentiments exactly!



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As an American, I refuse to buy mandatory health insurance that supports corrupt conventional medicine

Tuesday, January 05, 2010

by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

Editor of NaturalNews.com



(NaturalNews) Even if Obama's health care reform bill becomes law, mandating that all Americans buy health insurance policies for a failed system of "sick care", I will refuse to comply. I've read the U.S. Constitution and its Bill of Rights, and nowhere in that document do I find that the federal government has the power to force consumers to purchase for-profit insurance products from private companies.



The very basis of the health care reform bill is, at its core, unconstitutional. If this mandate is allowed to stand, it sets a dangerous precedent for the U.S. government to require us to purchase other products and services from whatever industries it chooses to support. What's next? Will the government pass a law forcing us to buy pharmaceuticals at thousands of dollars a year? Will it force us to purchase U.S.-made automobiles in order to boost the automobile industry? Is our economic free choice now centrally planned by our own government operating like Communist China?



This is a serious question that Constitutional scholars will no doubt be debating in the months ahead. But who am I kidding anyway? The U.S. government has long since abandoned the U.S. Constitution and no has any intention of abiding by it. Want proof? Read just one amendment: the 10th amendment.



Check out the website www.TenthAmendmentCenter.com which carries a highly relevant article on this matter: Health Care Nullification and Interposition (http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com...). It paraphrases James Madison, saying, "...state governments not only have the right to resist unconstitutional federal acts, but that, in order to protect liberty, they are 'duty bound to interpose' or stand between the federal government and the people of the state."



Our right to choose has been stolen away



In addition to the very serious legal problems with government-mandated private health insurance, this health care reform law strips away my right to choose what type of medicine I wish to be treated with. I don't find any credibility in the drugs-and-surgery approach to health care. The pharmaceutical industry is riddled with scientific fraud, quackery, corruption and criminal behavior -- much of it documented right here on NaturalNews.com. Its drugs are approved by a corrupt, dishonest regulatory agency (the FDA) that has abandoned science in its quest to push more drugs onto the people. Why should I, as a "free" American, be forced to pay money to a system that I know to be largely based on fraud?



If I had a choice, I would prefer to buy into a system of naturopathic care, where doctors respect the healing ability of the human body and try to work with the patient instead of assaulting him with chemicals and surgeries. But Obama's health care reform bill gives me no such choice. I cannot choose to direct my money into a system of medicine that I trust and respect. Instead, I am being forced to pay money into a system that is morally corrupt and scientifically fraudulent. It is a system that will only bring more harm and suffering to the people while enhancing the profits of the greed-driven corporations behind this medical scam.



I find it highly offensive that my own government would threaten me with a financial penalty if I refuse to pay money to such a racket. It's much like being forced to pay a "protection fee" to the mob. With this health care reform decision, our government has now become the enforcement branch of the Big Pharma crime ring, using the powers of the IRS (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...) to intimidate people into handing over their money to a gang of dishonest corporations that have found a whole new way to take Americans for a ride.



With this bill, all Americans are essentially being held up at gunpoint. We're being mugged on the streets by our own government, and they're demanding not only our money (to the tune of over $15,000 a year for a typical family) but also our lives -- because conventional health care may very well cost you your life!



Breaking Americans down, one family at a time The whole thing is pure highway robbery, sanctioned by the government. The arrogant Congressmen and Senators who passed this law are, themselves, guilty of robbing the American people blind in order to redirect money into the pockets of some of the wealthiest corporations in the world: the drug companies. Has anyone bothered to answer the simple question that if tens of millions of Americans can't afford health insurance now, how are they supposed to afford to pay the fine for not buying any?



Forcing people to buy something they already cannot afford is a truly idiotic idea. It's like passing a law that tries to solve the homeless problem by making it against the law to not buy a house. The reason they're homeless is because they can't afford a house in the first place!



Similarly, the reason people don't have health insurance right now is because they cannot afford to buy any. How does forcing people to buy what they cannot afford solve anything?



This is why I'm now convinced that the whole point of the health care reform bill is to destroy American families. It was designed from the start, I believe, to drive more families into bankruptcy and government dependence. It's all part of a package of new initiatives that appear to be created specifically for the purpose of destroying America through debt and disease.



You can reach no other conclusion, really, if you think about it. When you start to realize about what our nation is doing with its fiat currency, how the U.S. government has to rent debt from the private corporation known as the Federal Reserve, and how the drug companies are bankrupting cities, states and federal programs, you really have to question the motives of a new law that would further worsen both the debt and health problems now tearing our country apart.



Why would members of Congress pass a health care "reform" bill that offered no reform and no health? Why would the Obama administration be engaged in under-the-table, behind-closed-doors deals with the drug companies just to make sure they continue to be able to charge monopoly prices for their dangerous medications? Why would the IRS now be invoked to enforce this medical racket? The answer can only be that somewhere at the top of government, someone is diligently working to destroy America. There's no faster way to accomplish that goal than to keep people diseased and indebted, and this new health care reform racket accomplishes both of those goals quite nicely.



That's why I simply refuse to pay into such a system. For me to spend money supporting such a racket goes against every moral fiber in my conscious existence. I would no sooner pay money to this racket than I would donate dollars to murderers or rapists. Every dollar that goes into this system only perpetuates the crimes against humanity currently being committed by the pharmaceutical industry -- especially against our nation's children.



I guess the IRS is just going to have to issue me a fine. If so, I'll pay it under protest, but I'd rather pay a fine to the IRS than hand over my money to the corrupt, failed system of western medicine that pretends to offer "health care" in America today.



The collapse of an empire isn't pretty I'll have the last laugh, of course, because this whole charade will come tumbling down soon enough. We are watching the last days of the Roman Empire reflected in America now. The closer any empire gets toward collapse, the more insane its legislative initiatives become. Sheer desperation drives its legislators to enact outrageously ill-conceived laws that would normally never even be considered. Such is the nature of the last desperate gasps of a crumbling empire -- an empire that has now turned to looting its own citizens as a last-ditch effort to keep itself afloat.



Of course, every collapsing empire does much the same. The looting of the citizenry is, in fact, one of the more important signs that a collapse is imminent. It has happened repeatedly throughout history, and it usually involves a looting of the treasury and an abandonment (or hyperinflation) of the currency. Punitive taxation of the population -- or a mandate requiring people to part with their money -- is nothing new.



In the big picture, what we're seeing in the United States with this health care reform bill isn't an aberration; it's merely one milestone in the accelerating decline of an empire that has forgotten what freedom really means.



Mark my words, because I will out-live the American empire by a wide margin: After its collapse, historians will look back and they will recognize that it was disease and the broken health care system that was the final straw. No nation that keeps its population diseased and bankrupt can hope to have any real future, and America apparently has no intention whatsoever to even legalize actual healing or medicinal herbs. This nation has made a decision to outlaw healing, to outlaw natural medicine and to pursue a corrupt, broken system of sick care that offers no hope for the future.



It is a fateful decision for a nation that will one day serve as an important history lesson. The title of that lesson, by the way, will be "How America destroyed itself with debt and disease while keeping its powerful corporations filthy rich." In the end, of course, everybody loses. There can be no abundance, no wealth and no hope for any nation in the long term unless it finds a way to keep its people healthy. America is now set on a course to learn this very difficult lesson the hard way.



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From: heron61 Date: January 5th, 2010 09:24 am (UTC) (Link) major subsidies for anyone making less than 4 x the poverty line ($88,000 for a family of four), IOW, everyone who isn't rich gets subsidies, subsidies that mean that someone who makes 1.5x the poverty line pays less than 4% of their income for healthcare, and even people making 4 x the poverty line would not pay more than 10% of their income on healthcare. anyone. The exact numbers for the subsidies differ from the House and Senate bill. We're talking about single people paying less than $50.00 month for healthcare if they make $18,000 year, and with no denial for pre-existing conditions or other nonsense. In what way is this a bad thing? Your argument would make more sense if it wasn't for the fact that both the House and the Senate bills also includesubsidies for anyone making less than 4 x the poverty line ($88,000 for a family of four), IOW, everyone who isn't rich gets subsidies, subsidies that mean that someone who makes 1.5x the poverty line pays less than 4% of their income for healthcare, and even people making 4 x the poverty line would not pay more than 10% of their income on healthcare. Here are some numbers , and here's some more info . According to both bills, if you make less than the poverty line, it's free. This isn't going to impoverish. The exact numbers for the subsidies differ from the House and Senate bill. We're talking about single people paying less than $50.00 month for healthcare if they make $18,000 year, and with no denial for pre-existing conditions or other nonsense. In what way is this a bad thing? From: alobar Date: January 5th, 2010 09:50 am (UTC) (Link) Subsidy comes in thew form of income tax credits. A huge number of people work under the table and do not file taxes. Another huge number of people are homeless and have no income. From: heron61 Date: January 5th, 2010 10:25 am (UTC) (Link) Subsidy comes in thew form of income tax credits.



No, they don't. They come in the form of the government directly footing the bill for all, most, or much of an individual's healthcare costs. Both bills work this way. If you're homeless, you'll get healthcare. From: alobar Date: January 5th, 2010 10:08 am (UTC) (Link) Obamacare is for surgeries and pharm drugs. I want neither. Will it pay for vitamins, supplements, consultations with naturopaths? No it will not. Will it pay for eye glasses, dental work? Nope.



In civilized countries health insurance does not make the insurance companies rich. It by-passes the insurance companies completely. Therefore the government insurance is cheaper &/or has more value. From: heron61 Date: January 5th, 2010 10:03 pm (UTC) (Link) Actually, that's not true - it's just what we hear. Various western european nations, like Germany use private insurance companies, they just have strict laws governing how these companies can behave (such as limiting fees and prohibiting them from denying people coverage or charging more for pre-existing conditions, both of which the House & Senate bills do). This bill is a good first step in that direction. Also, we may get government insurance (the House bill contains it, the Senate bill does not).



ALso, I ask you once again, if supplements and vitamins work so much better than actual medicine, why is the general health of people in most nations in western europe so much better than ours? Many of those nations restrict supplements heavily, but all provide affordable medical care to their citizens and the rest is citizens who are considerably healthier (lower infant mortality, lower incidences of various diseases, longer average lifespans...).



As I mentioned above, this bill provides affordable healthcare. Not, it's not perfect, but it's a huge step in the right direction. Is it really too much to ask someone making $18,000 a year to pay less than $600/year for healthcare, because that's exactly what this bill will do. I make less than that, and for minimal healthcare, I pay that in 5 months. I'm very much looking forward to this bill passing. I know people w/o several healthcare who will be able to afford healthcare who will be able to afford to get it when this bill passes (and it's very likely to), & a good friend of mine with a tendency towards blood clots in his legs will not not have to fear losing his insurance and thus becoming uninsurable.



More than half of the objections you've mentioned in various posts are provably false (such as the subsidies being tax rebates) and it very much looks to me like you haven't actually read about the bill, but are just accepting what other people say about it. Take a look at the things the House & Senate bills have in common (and thus, which are certain to be in the final version) - they look pretty darn good.



Edited at 2010-01-05 10:04 pm (UTC) From: alobar Date: January 5th, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC) (Link) Even if all you say is true (which I do NOT believe), there is the matter of freedom of religion. I do not worship the god of allopathy. I want no part of dangerous allopathic drugs. I do not want to be treated by doctors who have no knowledge of herbs, megadoses of vitamins, and who have been trained to be pushers for Big Pharm.



BTW, there is a lot of twisted stats out there. The US is by no means healthy because of allopathic drugs. We are sickly because of them.



I am betting that proper diet and supplements will get me to age 100 with a clear mind and no need for allopathic meds. Let's see how many of the people I know who choose the allopathic route make it as long as I intend to. From: heron61 Date: January 5th, 2010 11:47 pm (UTC) (Link) Even if all you say is true (which I do NOT believe),



Then go and look for yourself. You seem remarkably determined to believe this is a bad bill w/o actually examining it, which seems foolish, and I am not used to you being foolish. If you think I'm wrong, then to out and find that actual data in the bill to prove me wrong. Everything I've read looks quite good - not far enough certainly, but a good first step, after which there will hopefully be others. Also, as various commentators (who both approve of and oppose the bill) every nation that has adopted anything like this finds that it soon becomes politically untouchable because it's too popular. I expect the same to be true here, which means that it's more likely to be improved rather than weakened over time.



I am betting that proper diet and supplements will get me to age 100 with a clear mind and no need for allopathic meds.



I wish you well with that, I'm not on any prescription medicines and happy to stay that way, but I also know that if I need anything I'll take it. From: alobar Date: January 5th, 2010 11:59 pm (UTC) (Link) > > Even if all you say is true (which I do NOT believe),



I was not referring to the text of the Obamacare bill. I was referring to your statement about vitamins and supplements not making for a longer or more healthy life. From: heron61 Date: January 6th, 2010 12:14 am (UTC) (Link) Fair enough. From: alobar Date: January 12th, 2010 09:07 am (UTC) (Link)



http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=9346 I received a link to a video just now. It seems like hogwash to me, but you are far more knowledgeable about the pending healthcare legislation. What do you think of all the scary shit in this video? Lots of references to specific pages of the bill. From: heron61 Date: January 12th, 2010 09:29 am (UTC) (Link) I only got 3 minutes in and quit - it's full of numerous obvious lies (for example, I wish it did cover all immigrants (both legal and not), but both versions very specifically do not cover illegal immigrants). Given the anti-choice rantings on some of the text on the page, this is more "death-panel" lies by lunatics (or perhaps lies to lunatics, made by shills for the health insurance industry - there's definitely also some of that going on). I suppose this sort of thing works for the far right, because most people on that edge of the political spectrum never both to read bills and so assume that this nonsense is true. From: heron61 Date: January 6th, 2010 05:29 am (UTC) (Link) Ah, here's one of articles about details of the 2 healthcare bills that I've seen . Obviously, the House bill is better (due to having a smaller % of Republicans in the House + no ability to fillibuster, so proponents don't have to toady up to the 5 or 6 seriously conservative Democrats in the Senate), but neither bill is bad, & both are far better than what we have now. From: mrvetinari Date: January 9th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC) (Link) Agreed I wonder if Senate Democrats realize JUST HOW UNPOPULAR this act will be.



There is STILL some tiny sliver of a chance for a public option or an end to exemption from anti-trust laws by insurance companies, but we will see.



Once people are required to either provide proof of insurance, OR surrender 9% of their income (which will be reimbursed through tax credits somehow) and insurance companies are still free to make sure it is VERY difficult for the sickly to get coverage, there will be a whole class of people who are extra destitute because of this bill.



It is frightening that the solution to "people cannot afford insurance" is to make not purchasing it a crime.



From: heron61 Date: January 12th, 2010 09:35 am (UTC) (Link) Re: Agreed insurance companies are still free to make sure it is VERY difficult for the sickly to get coverage



Have you read the bill - it manifestly puts a stop to that sort of nonsense. It's far from perfect, but it's a vast improvement over what we have now (which is in part because what we have now is exceptionally bad). Also, subsidies are not via tax credits, the government will foot 100% of the bill for health insurance for people at or below the poverty line and the vast majority of the bill for people near it. This info isn't difficult to find.



There's a lot the bill doesn't do - universal medicare would be far superior, and would also keep down costs better, but this will largely keep down individual costs (instead what we'll have is the government giving insurance companies lots of money, but given that much of this money will come from taxing rich people more (both directly, & indirectly), it's mostly irrelevant to anyone non-rich. From: mrvetinari Date: January 12th, 2010 10:53 am (UTC) (Link) Re: Agreed I have read some unfinished versions, I liked the House bill, the did not think highly of the Senate bill... The "reconciled" bill is not yet complete



Could you send a link to the version you were looking at? (Please) I would like to have a peek.



I've work with/for insurance companies in the past, my fear about regulations on them is that they will simply choose not to follow them, and there will be no worthwhile enforcement mechanism. As in "I am sorry, we lost your application again".



Universal Medicare (Or even open enrolment Medicare) would have been a great option, but with the compromises to the reconciled bill (Exchanges at the State level, etc...) I do not see how this will effectively hold down costs., Make no mistake I want it to work, but the Insurance companies have a vested interest in keeping health care unaffordable for many - so I am sceptical.



Thank you for pointing out the part about the tax credit/reimbursement bit, though, appreciated.