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Hero MemberActivity: 903Merit: 863 Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments April 07, 2017, 08:12:24 PM #6464







The oracle FOPUBEUPBC6YLIQDLKL6EW775BMV7YOH (which also monitors Bitcoin blockchain) posts pseudorandom numbers derived from Bitcoin block hash. A new number is posted every time a new Bitcoin block is mined and gets one further confirmation. The random numbers are posted under data feed name randomXXXXXX where XXXXXX is Bitcoin block number.



The numbers are between 1 and 100,000. You can bet on a future random number being less than or greater than a specific value, for example, there is 25% chance that the number will be below 25,000 and 75% chance that it'll be above 25,000.



The above contract was between my Mac and my phone, it was created before block 460852. This is the data feed that was posted by the oracle after this block was mined:

https://explorer.byteball.org/#Ns//o52EKR32ykuHfUfcm3ailHtta6TvM5kB07vbpVA=

bitcoin_hash: 0000000000000000019dd457cf8e233701dab44ac855492d575a4366556213e0

bitcoin_height: 460852

bitcoin_merkle: GW9cQW5m0KLIi2suUlkzRP2yurg8jLEax3uHiun7kik=

random460852: 34789



34789 is more than 25000, the Mac won.



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Now you can also P2P gamble using smart contracts.The oracle FOPUBEUPBC6YLIQDLKL6EW775BMV7YOH (which also monitors Bitcoin blockchain) posts pseudorandom numbers derived from Bitcoin block hash. A new number is posted every time a new Bitcoin block is mined and gets one further confirmation. The random numbers are posted under data feed name randomXXXXXX where XXXXXX is Bitcoin block number.The numbers are between 1 and 100,000. You can bet on a future random number being less than or greater than a specific value, for example, there is 25% chance that the number will be below 25,000 and 75% chance that it'll be above 25,000.The above contract was between my Mac and my phone, it was created before block 460852. This is the data feed that was posted by the oracle after this block was mined:bitcoin_hash: 0000000000000000019dd457cf8e233701dab44ac855492d575a4366556213e0bitcoin_height: 460852bitcoin_merkle: GW9cQW5m0KLIi2suUlkzRP2yurg8jLEax3uHiun7kik=34789 is more than 25000, the Mac won.Join #gambling channel on our Slack http://slack.byteball.org/ to find a partner for P2P dice game.P.S. And we didn't need to do a $2m ICO to organize this simple game. Simplicity is beauty

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MemberActivity: 109Merit: 10 Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments April 07, 2017, 08:21:51 PM #6465 Quote from: tonych on April 07, 2017, 08:12:24 PM







The oracle FOPUBEUPBC6YLIQDLKL6EW775BMV7YOH (which also monitors Bitcoin blockchain) posts pseudorandom numbers derived from Bitcoin block hash. A new number is posted every time a new Bitcoin block is mined and gets one further confirmation. The random numbers are posted under data feed name randomXXXXXX where XXXXXX is Bitcoin block number.



The numbers are between 1 and 100,000. You can bet on a future random number being less than or greater than a specific value, for example, there is 25% chance that the number will be below 25,000 and 75% chance that it'll be above 25,000.



The above contract was between my Mac and my phone, it was created before block 460852. This is the data feed that was posted by the oracle after this block was mined:

https://explorer.byteball.org/#Ns//o52EKR32ykuHfUfcm3ailHtta6TvM5kB07vbpVA=

bitcoin_hash: 0000000000000000019dd457cf8e233701dab44ac855492d575a4366556213e0

bitcoin_height: 460852

bitcoin_merkle: GW9cQW5m0KLIi2suUlkzRP2yurg8jLEax3uHiun7kik=

random460852: 34789



34789 is more than 25000, the Mac won.



Join #gambling channel on our Slack



P.S. And we didn't need to do a



Now you can also P2P gamble using smart contracts.The oracle FOPUBEUPBC6YLIQDLKL6EW775BMV7YOH (which also monitors Bitcoin blockchain) posts pseudorandom numbers derived from Bitcoin block hash. A new number is posted every time a new Bitcoin block is mined and gets one further confirmation. The random numbers are posted under data feed name randomXXXXXX where XXXXXX is Bitcoin block number.The numbers are between 1 and 100,000. You can bet on a future random number being less than or greater than a specific value, for example, there is 25% chance that the number will be below 25,000 and 75% chance that it'll be above 25,000.The above contract was between my Mac and my phone, it was created before block 460852. This is the data feed that was posted by the oracle after this block was mined:bitcoin_hash: 0000000000000000019dd457cf8e233701dab44ac855492d575a4366556213e0bitcoin_height: 460852bitcoin_merkle: GW9cQW5m0KLIi2suUlkzRP2yurg8jLEax3uHiun7kik=34789 is more than 25000, the Mac won.Join #gambling channel on our Slack http://slack.byteball.org/ to find a partner for P2P dice game.P.S. And we didn't need to do a $2m ICO to organize this simple game.

Wow Tonych, you keep amazing me with these out of the blue, back to back, cool developments. Thanks once again for the update Wow Tonych, you keep amazing me with these out of the blue, back to back, cool developments. Thanks once again for the update

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Last edit: April 07, 2017, 09:35:02 PM by drays #6467





On different topic: @tonych - you are awesome. Though, well... I think you know that already

I was missing here for some time... Sorry if this is answered somewhere down the thread - my question is whether it is possible to trade Bytes vs BlackBytes using the trading bot? Trading bot seems to be the best place for such functionality, I suppose it should be there, but cannot find it by some reason...On different topic: @tonych - you are awesome. Though, well... I think you know that already ... this space is not for rent ...

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Sr. MemberActivity: 509Merit: 260Also seb486 Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments April 08, 2017, 09:06:03 AM #6473 I love thisproject however I have a problem with the witnesses choose mecanism, aka "12 catpains of industry" or well reputed equivalent.



First (and biggest one) : who is to coopte such "captains". In a supposed decentralysed network it means a central authority somewhere or at least a consensus voting system.

Second : what if no such "captain of industry" joins in? Should we bless project founders for eternity ? (we all die some day).

Three : 12 is a too limited number. This is intentionaly set so that we can humanely follow the witnesses quality. But I do not want to ask periodicaly myself whereas witnesses are good quality or not. I just want to feel confident with the network any time.



I would suggest the following :

- no more limited witnesses number

- all wallets could optionnaly run as witnesses

- if a end-user wishes to act as a witness is has to back some "good" amount of GBYTE (prevent spam and initial amount for serial post).

- each time a witness serial post he is awarded more than its post cost (aka end users are prone to become witnesses for profit)

- wallets choose their witnesses in a hard-coded random fashion among all witnesses pool.



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Jr. MemberActivity: 56Merit: 10Byteball: DAG, Built-in Chat, Conditional Payments Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments April 08, 2017, 09:37:37 AM #6474 Good questions. I'm not sure if that's the best way, such aspects make it seem a bit centralized, but perhaps not a design flaw. If the focus is usability, this seems to be necessary to make the system scale more efficiently. ⚪ Byteball (https://byteball.org/) ❱❱❱ I T J U S T W O R K S . ❱❱❱

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Hero MemberActivity: 903Merit: 863 Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments April 08, 2017, 11:24:30 AM #6478 Quote from: ByteFan on April 08, 2017, 09:06:03 AM I love thisproject however I have a problem with the witnesses choose mecanism, aka "12 catpains of industry" or well reputed equivalent.



First (and biggest one) : who is to coopte such "captains". In a supposed decentralysed network it means a central authority somewhere or at least a consensus voting system.

Second : what if no such "captain of industry" joins in? Should we bless project founders for eternity ? (we all die some day).

Three : 12 is a too limited number. This is intentionaly set so that we can humanely follow the witnesses quality. But I do not want to ask periodicaly myself whereas witnesses are good quality or not. I just want to feel confident with the network any time.



I would suggest the following :

- no more limited witnesses number

- all wallets could optionnaly run as witnesses

- if a end-user wishes to act as a witness is has to back some "good" amount of GBYTE (prevent spam and initial amount for serial post).

- each time a witness serial post he is awarded more than its post cost (aka end users are prone to become witnesses for profit)

- wallets choose their witnesses in a hard-coded random fashion among all witnesses pool.



First of all, I remind you that following the witness lists of "captains of industry" is just a suggestion how witness lists could be updated, it is not a protocol-level thing.



That said, I don't think the question of captains of industry is that hard. If you ask me about captains of auto industry today, I would name GM, Ford, Toyota, Renault, Michelin, and a few others. In Bitcoin industry today: AlphaBay, Coinbase, Localbitcoins, Overstock, Polo, and a few others.



Quote But I do not want to ask periodicaly myself whereas witnesses are good quality or not. You don't have to. If you don't want to or feel unable to make decisions yourself in this particular area, you can always follow the opinion of someone you trust.



To clarify, there is no such thing as "wish to act as a witness", you can only "wish to be named as a witness". Anyone can be named a witness by anyone.



The above was 100% human, 0% technical. Regarding suggested protocol changes, all such changes should be carefully analyzed with respect to potential consequences, in particular whether they could lead to consensus failures such as forks and deadlocks. First of all, I remind you that following the witness lists of "captains of industry" is just a suggestion how witness lists could be updated, it is not a protocol-level thing.That said, I don't think the question of captains of industry is that hard. If you ask me about captains of auto industry today, I would name GM, Ford, Toyota, Renault, Michelin, and a few others. In Bitcoin industry today: AlphaBay, Coinbase, Localbitcoins, Overstock, Polo, and a few others.You don't have to. If you don't want to or feel unable to make decisions yourself in this particular area, you can always follow the opinion of someone you trust.To clarify, there is no such thing as "wish to act as a witness", you can only "wish to be named as a witness". Anyone can be named a witness by anyone.The above was 100% human, 0% technical. Regarding suggested protocol changes, all such changes should be carefully analyzed with respect to potential consequences, in particular whether they could lead to consensus failures such as forks and deadlocks. Simplicity is beauty