Ashby rang me looking for preference discussions and I said no. I said the issue is that in a lot of the places that they’re talking about, the two-candidate preferred battle will be between One Nation and the Libs. And we’ve always had a position on putting One Nation last.

He said he wanted to go after ‘lazy’ LNP MPs.

I said, well we’re not in the job of propping them up but we’re not going to preference you.