Do our earliest surviving post-New-Testament writings interpret Proverbs 8 as being about the pre-human Jesus? And do they teach the pre-human existence of Jesus at all?

In this episode, I explain why I try to avoid the term “Arian,” and respond to a critique of episode 71 (linked below), explaining some problems with the surviving letters from Ignatius.

Then we look at the other “apostolic fathers,” including 1 and 2 Clement, Barnabas, the Didache, the letter of Polycarp, and the Shepherd of Hermas, with the above questions in mind.

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