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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,823 Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals.



Game 3:

Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.

Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.



Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.



So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.





Game 4:

98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.



Game 5:

This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.

Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.



Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.







That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:





Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.



Also:

Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.







Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.



EDIT: Picture found.







Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.



Game 6:

Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win.





Interesting facts:

With this all summed up, there are certain other facts.

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? So I guess it really is rigged, right?



Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.



The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls commited by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls commited by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything. Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting teams, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.



Quick facts:

Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.

In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.

Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.





So just for you doubters, hopefully you come through and realize that the NBA is not out to make one team win and one team lose. If that were the case Wade, Lebron and Kobe would have the last 10 championships, which isn't the case. The winners have been low market teams for the majority of the last 7 years. I'm simply doing this to see if some people can see the light.Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.Also:Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.EDIT: Picture found.Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win.With this all summed up, there are certain other facts.In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? So I guess it really is rigged, right?Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls commited by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls commited by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything. Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting teams, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.So just for you doubters, hopefully you come through and realize that the NBA is not out to make one team win and one team lose. If that were the case Wade, Lebron and Kobe would have the last 10 championships, which isn't the case. The winners have been low market teams for the majority of the last 7 years. Last edited by plowking : 04-03-2009 at 12:33 PM . 04-03-2009, 05:44 AM #2 Luigi Formerly luigi>mario



Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,836 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals.



Looks like most of the complaint comes from game 5. However, it is nice to see his last 6 in the fourth come straght from him. How many free throws did Wade get in that overtime?



I don't have the time to investigate it for myself, but there could be something to complain about that isn't reported here. Sill, the presented info puts together a great defense. Nice data.Looks like most of the complaint comes from game 5. However, it is nice to see his last 6 in the fourth come straght from him. How many free throws did Wade get in that overtime?I don't have the time to investigate it for myself, but there could be something to complain about that isn't reported here. Sill, the presented info puts together a great defense. 04-03-2009, 06:06 AM #3 momo Value Ape.



Join Date: May 2008 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 5,557 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Very good post. 04-03-2009, 06:18 AM #4 Battosai I airball my layups

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 51 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Only jealous haters with an agenda would have the nerve to challenge what Wade did in the 06 finals. I remember posting at another board filled with Dallas and bitter Piston fans, and all they did was b*tch about the "unfair reffing". Alot of the times the haters post pictures from a certain angle that makes it look like Wade wasn't being touched as evidenced in the pictures you posted. Most of the plays people cried about were real fouls if you found a picture showing the right angle. Last edited by Battosai : 04-03-2009 at 06:20 AM . 04-03-2009, 06:21 AM #5 juju151111 NBA rookie of the year

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,759 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. The truth hurts mavs fans. Blame dirk for choking that ft away. 04-03-2009, 06:22 AM #6 loot H.U.M.A.N. World



Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,550 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by Luigi Still, the presented info puts together a great defense.

Yup. Dallas could learn something here. Yup. Dallas could learn something here. 04-03-2009, 06:35 AM #7 shadow Laker fan here



Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 2,881 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. I don't think anyone would argue that the Mav's didn't choke. But the fact is Wade got a lot of bad calls in his favor the whole series. He was being treated like he was MJ x5. Game 5 was just the last straw because it basically decided the game on what should have been a no call. When you have other NBA players wondering about the reffing during that series you have to think that there is more to it than blind hate on part of jilted fans. 04-03-2009, 06:38 AM #8 plowking PURPLE DRANK!



Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,823 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by Luigi



Looks like most of the complaint comes from game 5. However, it is nice to see his last 6 in the fourth come straght from him. How many free throws did Wade get in that overtime?



I don't have the time to investigate it for myself, but there could be something to complain about that isn't reported here. Sill, the presented info puts together a great defense. Nice data.Looks like most of the complaint comes from game 5. However, it is nice to see his last 6 in the fourth come straght from him. How many free throws did Wade get in that overtime?I don't have the time to investigate it for myself, but there could be something to complain about that isn't reported here. Sill, the presented info puts together a great defense.



In Game 5, Wade attempted 2 free throws in the overtime. Miami as a team overall shot only those two from Wade in the overtime. Dallas shot 4 free throws in the overtime.



As seen from the pictures, it was clearly a foul, that could have been called on Harris or Nowitzki, though I didn't have the picture of Harris grabbing Wade's right arm. In Game 5, Wade attempted 2 free throws in the overtime. Miami as a team overall shot only those two from Wade in the overtime. Dallas shot 4 free throws in the overtime.As seen from the pictures, it was clearly a foul, that could have been called on Harris or Nowitzki, though I didn't have the picture of Harris grabbing Wade's right arm. 04-03-2009, 06:41 AM #9 plowking PURPLE DRANK!



Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,823 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by shadow I don't think anyone would argue that the Mav's didn't choke. But the fact is Wade got a lot of bad calls in his favor the whole series. He was being treated like he was MJ x5. Game 5 was just the last straw because it basically decided the game on what should have been a no call. When you have other NBA players wondering about the reffing during that series you have to think that there is more to it than blind hate on part of jilted fans.



So you are saying that last play should have been a no call? Look at the evidence. You can't be serious.



The only player to talk about the refs in that series was McGrady. Possibly because he saw that another SG was getting to the finals before him... So you are saying that last play should have been a no call? Look at the evidence. You can't be serious.The only player to talk about the refs in that series was McGrady. Possibly because he saw that another SG was getting to the finals before him... 04-03-2009, 06:47 AM #10 godofgods Banned

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,091 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by plowking



Game 3:

Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.

Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.



Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.



So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.





Game 4:

98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.



Game 5:

This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.

Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.



Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.







That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:





Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.



Also:

Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.







Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.



Game 6:

Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win.





Interesting facts:

With this all summed up, there are certain other facts.

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? So I guess it really is rigged, right?



Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.



The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls commited by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls commited by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything. Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting teams, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.



Quick facts:

Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.

In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.

Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.





So just for you doubters, hopefully you come through and realize that the NBA is not out to make one team win and one team lose. If that were the case Wade, Lebron and Kobe would have the last 10 championships, which isn't the case. The winners have been low market teams for the majority of the last 7 years. I'm simply doing this to see if some people can see the light.Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.Also:Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win.With this all summed up, there are certain other facts.In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? So I guess it really is rigged, right?Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls commited by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls commited by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything. Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting teams, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.So just for you doubters, hopefully you come through and realize that the NBA is not out to make one team win and one team lose. If that were the case Wade, Lebron and Kobe would have the last 10 championships, which isn't the case. The winners have been low market teams for the majority of the last 7 years.



This is the NBA equivalent of saying "The Holocaust did not happen". This is the NBA equivalent of saying "The Holocaust did not happen". 04-03-2009, 06:48 AM #11 bigkingsfan Gif-ted



Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Land of 1 NBA Championship* Posts: 9,783 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. NBA seem to removed any Wade and ref biased video off youtube, congrats. 04-03-2009, 06:51 AM #12 shadow Laker fan here



Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 2,881 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by plowking So you are saying that last play should have been a no call? Look at the evidence. You can't be serious.



The only player to talk about the refs in that series was McGrady. Possibly because he saw that another SG was getting to the finals before him...

In that situation yes. Wade had no where to go and got bailed out. I'd understand if he was manhandled or something but he wasn't. You're pointing out a leg bump as the basis of the "foul." Who the heck calls that for a potential game winner in the NBA finals? It was a horrible call given the context of the situation plain and simple.



As far as McGrady being the only guy to talk about it, most players wouldn't talk about it. Personally I thought it was stupid of him to say that but it's not like he said something that wasn't already on most people's minds. In that situation yes. Wade had no where to go and got bailed out. I'd understand if he was manhandled or something but he wasn't. You're pointing out a leg bump as the basis of the "foul." Who the heck calls that for a potential game winner in the NBA finals? It was a horrible call given the context of the situation plain and simple.As far as McGrady being the only guy to talk about it, most players wouldn't talk about it. Personally I thought it was stupid of him to say that but it's not like he said something that wasn't already on most people's minds. 04-03-2009, 07:02 AM #13 plowking PURPLE DRANK!



Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,823 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by shadow In that situation yes. Wade had no where to go and got bailed out. I'd understand if he was manhandled or something but he wasn't. You're pointing out a leg bump as the basis of the "foul." Who the heck calls that for a potential game winner in the NBA finals? It was a horrible call given the context of the situation plain and simple.



As far as McGrady being the only guy to talk about it, most players wouldn't talk about it. Personally I thought it was stupid of him to say that but it's not like he said something that wasn't already on most people's minds.

No, look at the huge Dirk push.



See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Even with a giant piece of evidence in front of you, you refuse to accept Wade was fouled and was deserved it. A leg bump, a grab by Harris which I don't have pictures of, and a huge shove by Nowitzki. How is that not a foul? Explain to me how exactly he was bailed out. If it were not called it would have been a huge bailout for the Mavs. No, look at the huge Dirk push.See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Even with a giant piece of evidence in front of you, you refuse to accept Wade was fouled and was deserved it. A leg bump, a grab by Harris which I don't have pictures of, and a huge shove by Nowitzki. How is that not a foul? Explain to me how exactly he was bailed out. If it were not called it would have been a huge bailout for the Mavs. 04-03-2009, 07:04 AM #14 plowking PURPLE DRANK!



Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,823 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by bigkingsfan NBA seem to removed any Wade and ref biased video off youtube, congrats.

The four phantom fouls from the NBA finals are still there. What are you talking about.



Just show me some evidence of Wade getting biased calls.



I pointed out that in most of the games Miami won they outrebounded and shot better then their opponents. Furthermore I found the most controversial call and proved it to be a huge foul.



What more has to be done before biased fans will see the truth that Wade was simply incredible this series? The four phantom fouls from the NBA finals are still there. What are you talking about.Just show me some evidence of Wade getting biased calls.I pointed out that in most of the games Miami won they outrebounded and shot better then their opponents. Furthermore I found the most controversial call and proved it to be a huge foul.What more has to be done before biased fans will see the truth that Wade was simply incredible this series? 04-03-2009, 07:05 AM #15 plowking PURPLE DRANK!



Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,823 Re: Myth about Dwyane Wade and the 2006 Finals. Quote: Originally Posted by godofgods This is the NBA equivalent of saying "The Holocaust did not happen".

Yet, you don't have facts to back it up.



It's not even the most controversial series of the last 10 years. Yet, you don't have facts to back it up.It's not even the most controversial series of the last 10 years. Sponsored Links Page 1 of 23 1 2 3 4 11 > Last »

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