Breath of the Wild was a complete reinvention of the Zelda formula, and many past staples were either discarded or reworked. One example of this is the dungeons. Whereas past Zelda titles featured long, unique dungeons with and a particular item to obtain, Breath of the Wild instead mostly has a ton of smaller Shrines scattered throughout the world and a few Divine Beasts that are thematically similar.

Zelda series producer Eiji Aonuma and Breath of the Wild directed Hidemaro Fujibayashi commented on Nintendo’s approach to Shrines and dungeons in the debut episode of the Nintendo Power podcast. We’re first able to hear from Fujibayashi, who explains that big dungeons would mean that players would spent too much time there.

Fujibayashi said:

“So in the past Zelda games, one dungeon was very, very long and because this game had a very wide field to explore and one of the themes we had was finding things, we were thinking about what the ratio is for finding Shrines while players are wandering around the field. And when we calculated that, we kind of ended up with 100 or more Shrines. And as for size, we thought about perhaps making long, big dungeons, but that would take long, and players would dedicate their time too long in the dungeons, so we thought perhaps one Shrine is maybe 10 minutes. We’re thinking play would be a good amount. When we considered that each Shrine would take around 10 minutes, we thought maybe for a Zelda title, it wasn’t enough, it wasn’t meeting that dungeon feel for the game, so we thought maybe for this game, we could incorporate a big dungeon and perhaps one that moves or one that incorporates a gravity movement system and so we considered a big dungeon and that’s how we thought about the Divine Beasts. And so initially when we were thinking about the Divine Beasts, we thought about something that could be seen from afar, and maybe like a humanoid form, but then because these Champions were controlling Divine Beasts, we thought well maybe it would be interesting if the Divine Beasts themselves were a dungeon. And so then that met the requirement of a moving dungeon and also something that could be seen from afar. That’s how we kind of came up with the idea of the Divine Beasts.”

As for Aonuma’s comments, he spoke about how Shrines act as warp points, which was an important aspect when thinking about where they would be placed:

“One thing to add about the Shrines is that obviously when you discover a Shrine, that then becomes a warp point for you. It’s a place you can warp back to which is obviously very important when you have this huge game world, to have areas that you are able to warp to. And the reason we put that in is because if you discover a Shrine but you’re not able to finish it, and you think, ‘Oh, I’m just going to have walk all the way back here at some point’, that’s kind of a disappointment to players, so we decided, ‘Okay, well we’ve gotta have them be warp points, you’ve got to be able to warp to there.’ And the way we came about decisions like that was, we didn’t just have all of this down on paper and then make the game just based entirely on the design we had at the beginning. We would put things in the game, and we would actually walk around the game world to try it out, and then realize, ‘Well we’ve got to have that as a warp point or else people would just be annoyed.’ That was really the spirit in which this game was made – us actually playing it and realizing, ‘Oh, this needs to be in there too.'”

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