CARLSON: I get that you don't like Steve Bannon — totally legitimate, problems with Steve Bannon — I understand. But comparing him to the head of ISIS? Over the top, no?

MASTIO: No. The problem with Steve Bannon is that he shares a dangerous idea that plays right into the hands of al-Baghdadi. Al-Baghdadi wants the war in the Middle East to be between all of Islam and all of the West. We are at war with a psychotic death cult, a fringe of the Islamic world.

CARLSON: Right.

MASTIO: And Bannon agrees with al-Baghdadi that it is a war between Islam and the West. We don't need to give al-Baghdadi that propaganda victory. And when the strategic adviser, the strategic leader of the White House, bumbles into giving a strategic victory to our enemies, that's a really big deal.

CARLSON: Okay. I guess there's couple of obvious points. One: Presumably al-Baghdadi is talking about a literal war. Indeed he is waging one, whereas Bannon is talking about some sort of a metaphorical war because he hasn't, as previously noted, done the things we've listed on the screen. He hasn't actually committed any atrocities al-Baghdadi has. Therefore, it's an entirely different scale.