Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state and vice chairman of President Trump’s “commission on election integrity” joined Alex Marlow at “Breitbart News Daily” this morning to defend the commission against criticism that it is a façade for voter suppression efforts.

Marlow asked Kobach if he had any suspicions of what the critics of the commission are trying to hide, since “they’re certainly hiding something, it’s crystal clear.”

Kobach responded that he’s getting pushback from “organizations on the left that have benefited from the claim that voter fraud is a myth and their existence is all about propagating this claim that there is no such thing as voter fraud.”

But he also said that the dozens of states that have refused to give his commission the extensive voter data that they have asked for must be hiding something.

“I think you may have some states—California being one that jumps to mind—that have said, or at least the secretary of state has said, ‘We aren’t going to provide this data,’” Kobach said. “In that case, the leadership of the state may be saying, ‘Look, we don’t want the extent to which our voter rolls are inaccurate or filled with people who are ineligible to vote such as aliens, we don’t want that being made public.”

“So, I think you have a variety of interests on the left saying, ‘No, don’t talk about voter fraud, change the subject, change the subject, say it’s a myth,’” he said.

President Trump similarly implied in his comments at the commission’s first meeting that the states must be “worried about” something.

Marlow told Kobach later in the interview that liberals are unhappy about the commission because it’s going to make Kobach famous: “They’re fearful that you’re going to be a success, the commission’s going to work, it’s going to debunk some of their cheats and then it’s going to make you a star, which they don’t want any of those things, that’s what this is all about.”