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Member Back to Top Post by Deleted on These 「fluffernutter」ers are hard to kill. So think of this as a part guide and part hate about the ares. You know that 「fluffernutter」ing fly that's flying around your house now for days, you go grab your shoe and chasing it all around the house. Then you come back the next day, and your blood is boiling, so you end up breaking something. Then you say 「fluffernutter」 it, and bring out the bug spray and go nuclear on its 「bum-bum」 and burn down the whole forest kinda thang. Yea, that's what this is. Not a guide on how to kill those autistic mother「fluffernutter」ers, but those annoying 「bum-bum」 ones that toy with you for days.



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Grab the right bot and weapons.



For bots, i only use my fast and mobile bots as ares killers. If you're afraid of getting hit by that white goo, then wrap it up. If you want a trusted brand that works, then i recommend the Bulgasari. But it's only good for one use.



What else. We all know to use striders and HBs and Invaders. Any bot with a dash or jump can work. Personally, the Hover, Haechi, Bulgasari are what i have and use. I don't use the spec or Inky as much, but they'll work. Inky is a bit slow, so you really need to use that jump wisely.



I wouldn't bother to use something slow and tanky like my Bulwark or weyland. Remember we are trying to catch that fly that keeps getting away.



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For weapons, lock down for sure if you have them. I don't have any yet. My main weapons are Tarans and Orkans. Pretty old school but not really by choice, just what i got laying around.



Tarans go well for hunting. Just have to know the pros and cons. Tarans will take ~10s to empty so you need to make sure ares has nowhere to run. And you will be taking fire during that time.



Orkans kill fast. Only about 4s to unload a full canister, and that will kill an ares. If the ares makes a slight mistake, the Orkans will delete them. Also less chance of them popping their shield again if you are chasing them because you can delete them before their CD. Also, less worry about taking damage, but you gotta make sure to finish them off.



Major downside of orkans is that ares is fast enough to dodge if you don't get close enough. Even if you think you have a clear shot, they'll slip away. So Tarans don't have that problem.



Redeemer. This is Tarans on steroids. Really good at hitting hard. I use 2x of them on my Ao Jun and go hunting Ares. Make them pay for their mistakes.



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For active mods, i switched almost all my bots to lock down. You don't have to if you have proper lockdown weapons. That makes me very weak to stealth like Pursuer, Loki, AJs, mercs, etc. But the threat of Ares is too high in champs. Almost every hanger is running rampant with them, so 1/3 of all bots are ares. Even if not, late game a wall of ares will spawn and just crush everything. I'm finding that this change is overall better even if i lose Quantum Radar and some healing. But i don't use the green crack that much.



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Putting this all together. You need to have all the pieces above for this to work.



You need to have the mindset of a hunter. Stay hidden and observe your prey. Figure out if it's an ares and if it's used its ability or not.



Do some probing for Ares. This is really important step! Don't just charge at it now matter how open it looks. This is to see how aware they are and if they've used their ability. Probing means stay behind cover and shoot at them. Then observe how they respond, what they do, etc. Basically, the idea is to learn more information about them.



If they are distracted or facing a different direction, then you got some free shots on them. Again, try not to break cover. Only if they are attacking someone else, then it's ok to break cover. You don't know whether they've used their ability yet, so don't get caught out in the open.



If they turn to face you or turn on their shield. This is what you want when probing, and the most likely response. You want them to trigger their shield, so you can start the countdown of chasing them. The idea is to give you a fresh 15-20s of purple free time to chase them. This is where the bot and weapon selection start to matter.



Once that happens, you'll have to decide if it's safe to chase them. You should have your jumps or dashes ready. You should have your ability ready (lockdown). Your weapons should be fully loaded. Yea, double check everything. Also the health of the ares, and any other nearby reds. You don't want to walk into a red trap either. This should have been collected during the 1st or 2nd step, either the observing or probing steps.



Once their purple shield wears off, it's time to chase them. They should be scrambling for cover now. If you got Redeemers or 3x Tarans, then hit them hard. If you're lucky, you might get 1 or 2 shots off which might be enough to finish them off. It's okay to leave cover now (granted no other dangerous reds). If you think you can finish them off or chase them with your current bot, then it's end of story here.



But if they are about to get away and slip into cover, you'll have to decide if it's worth it to lock them down. Tarans/Redeemers and other fast projectile weapons work best here to lock them down. A running ares is really hard to lock down with orkans and other rockets. If the ares is at full health and it's one of those impossible to kill ares, then i would lock it down. Again, you can tell during the observation and probing steps how smart this fly is.



An ares that was spotted out in the open far from cover, and he pops his shield at the first sign of trouble is a bad pilot that makes alot of mistakes. Easy to kill, and may not be worth it. You can probably catch it again later without using lockdown, but it's up to you. If he's not in cover by the time his shield wears off, then you've got yourself a slow one.



A smart ares pilot will always be running for cover when his shield is about to wear out. You won't catch him out in the open. If you do, most of the time you'll only get 1 shot off before he slips away. Alot of times, he'll hug walls and curve around walls and use it tightly as cover. This is a sign of a good pilot. He'll also use poles alot and play rope a dope with it, so it'll be impossible to catch him. Another sign is when you're chasing him, and you just can't seem to hit him with either tarans or rockets, and he finds a way to dodge everything until his ability comes back. If you are in the air or a higher/lower elevation, he'll go right under you making it impossible for your targeting to work.



If it's a good ares pilot, then use a fast weapon like Tarans to lock him down. If not, use your bot's chase ability (2x dash or jump). Get in range, then lock him down. Remember, that he's already popped his purple shield before you go chasing him. And your bot is locked and loaded, and you've been stalking him up to now. If he's already behind cover by the time his shield wears off, then you can still chase him if you know you can land one shot. You only need one shot to land, but you gotta do it fast.



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If you've done everything right, you'll be able to kill multiple ares and survive more encounters. Last stand will be a problem, but unless they're at full health and maxed everything. The full 15-20s you've given yourself to chase them should give you enough time to wait it out.



This works really well for those ares that try to weave in and out of cover. Like they go from cover to cover really fast, leaving you only 1 chance to shoot at it. Just wait for them to pop their shield first, then lock them down after. Otherwise you won't be able to catch them.



Also works for those that try to hide behind a red teammate. They wait for a red to attack first, then when you're busy attacking their friend, they pop out of cover and start shooting you. Then you switch targets, and they go back into hiding. Same thing, but now you can lock them and finish them off.



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Mistakes I made.



Don't go chasing them recklessly. Even if you think you have a clear shot.



Wait for them to pop their shield.



Use lockdown ammo or lock them down first with halo/coronas.



Use tarans or redeemers. They hit hard and fast. They are good to use with lockdown ammo.







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Member Back to Top Post by Deleted on I found Ao Guang with tulumbas to be very effective ares killer. 500m range and splash damage because these things like to hang out at the edge of the cover to pop out really quick when shield is recharged. Then the obvious, rockets with 500m range, hit it still when it thinks it's safe. Lastly, good view due to flight and relatively good speed to get away out of its range.



And when anti shield comes out I'm definitely getting it to harass bulwarks, another War Robots abomination.



PS: Forgot to add the best part: the element of surprise. You can be well hidden and time the purple shield so the first attack is almost a freebie. If it does get away it's deeper into cover so then its ability to attack your teammates is hindered.

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Forgot to add, make sure to prioritize ares and other meta bots first. Track them and target them first.



Yea, i don't need to use alot of green crack. I only use the lockdown button if i can tell if it's one of those hard to kill ares. So far it's only been on average once per game. Usually the best red is the one that i have to worry about. He has the most meta bots, and at max levels, and the most skill out of the entire red team. So there's no fear that i'm gonna get addicted to green crack and run out. Also gotta hunt them down with a vengeance and it'll become easier.



The above playstyle works great on other meta bots or in high champs in general. Got my highest dmg score in weeks using this today, 2 million. None of that was healing or weyland self healing either.

There's so many in champs, i need to kill a 「dookie」 ton to make up for the rest of my team. When i say kill, i mean dead. Not one that's barely dead, because those are the most dangerous. They'll play super cautiously and go on to wipe out a few more of your blues before someone gets them.Forgot to add, make sure to prioritize ares and other meta bots first. Track them and target them first.Yea, i don't need to use alot of green crack. I only use the lockdown button if i can tell if it's one of those hard to kill ares. So far it's only been on average once per game. Usually the best red is the one that i have to worry about. He has the most meta bots, and at max levels, and the most skill out of the entire red team. So there's no fear that i'm gonna get addicted to green crack and run out. Also gotta hunt them down with a vengeance and it'll become easier.The above playstyle works great on other meta bots or in high champs in general. Got my highest dmg score in weeks using this today, 2 million. None of that was healing or weyland self healing either.

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And when anti shield comes out I'm definitely getting it to harass bulwarks, another War Robots abomination. I found Ao Guang with tulumbas to be very effective ares killer. 500m range and splash damage because these things like to hang out at the edge of the cover to pop out really quick when shield is recharged. Then the obvious, rockets with 500m range, hit it still when it thinks it's safe. Lastly, good view due to flight and relatively good speed to get away out of its range.And when anti shield comes out I'm definitely getting it to harass bulwarks, another War Robots abomination.



They both require some skill to play. Ao Jun flies like a 「fluffernutter」ing drunk. Its flight time is so short and it's easy to land in very bad spots. Bulwark's aegis shield is not that strong.



I'm sure all the greek bots are on another level. Did a test run of my newly minted Hades at L3, and i can tell that thing is gonna be a monster. So easy to use, and first time out i managed 3 kills. Yea, Bulwarks are nasty especially mine. I'd rate my L9 Ao Jun and Bulwark at the same level. Both can dish out the hurt, but both can get deleted by meta bots.They both require some skill to play. Ao Jun flies like a 「fluffernutter」ing drunk. Its flight time is so short and it's easy to land in very bad spots. Bulwark's aegis shield is not that strong.I'm sure all the greek bots are on another level. Did a test run of my newly minted Hades at L3, and i can tell that thing is gonna be a monster. So easy to use, and first time out i managed 3 kills.

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They both require some skill to play. Ao Jun flies like a 「fluffernutter」ing drunk. Its flight time is so short and it's easy to land in very bad spots. Bulwark's aegis shield is not that strong.



I'm sure all the greek bots are on another level. Did a test run of my newly minted Hades at L3, and i can tell that thing is gonna be a monster. So easy to use, and first time out i managed 3 kills. Yea, Bulwarks are nasty especially mine. I'd rate my L9 Ao Jun and Bulwark at the same level. Both can dish out the hurt, but both can get deleted by meta bots.They both require some skill to play. Ao Jun flies like a 「fluffernutter」ing drunk. Its flight time is so short and it's easy to land in very bad spots. Bulwark's aegis shield is not that strong.I'm sure all the greek bots are on another level. Did a test run of my newly minted Hades at L3, and i can tell that thing is gonna be a monster. So easy to use, and first time out i managed 3 kills.



To me dragoon and trident bulwarks are almost a cheat builds: people camp in them at 600m range dealing insane damage. Sure, another meta can get to it but it has to cover the distance, then get through aegis and then physical. That's bs to me.

No doubt, hades is a monster. It's like night and day, every time I play my hades it's 1M+ damage when my average is 600k. That's why I don't play it too often.To me dragoon and trident bulwarks are almost a cheat builds: people camp in them at 600m range dealing insane damage. Sure, another meta can get to it but it has to cover the distance, then get through aegis and then physical. That's bs to me.

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Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.



How do I know this to be true? Just watch Rollo Tomasi



Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.



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Or you could just use a falcon with anti-control...no need for fangs out or any fancy jumping, just a high burst dmg at close range heavy weapon, like glory, avenger or ember.Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.How do I know this to be true? Just watchdo work.Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.my $.02 YMMV

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funny thing is the invites are from pilots running Ares heavy hangars.



i never get a chance to reply but would most likely reply "i guess" Ares are the Reason i run a Spec-lista with LDM now, i get hate invites from Ares pilots like every other day calling me a Coward for running it.funny thing is the invites are from pilots running Ares heavy hangars.i never get a chance to reply but would most likely reply "i guess"

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Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.



How do I know this to be true? Just watch Rollo Tomasi



Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.



my $.02 YMMV



Or you could just use a falcon with anti-control...no need for fangs out or any fancy jumping, just a high burst dmg at close range heavy weapon, like glory, avenger or ember.Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.How do I know this to be true? Just watchdo work.Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.my $.02 YMMV Sometimes it works. I might have to put my lone AC back on TBird for just this reason. It’s also one of the main reasons I switched from ember to avenger. Ya just can’t hug w ember due to that point blank buggieness.

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They both require some skill to play. Ao Jun flies like a 「fluffernutter」ing drunk. Its flight time is so short and it's easy to land in very bad spots. Bulwark's aegis shield is not that strong.



I'm sure all the greek bots are on another level. Did a test run of my newly minted Hades at L3, and i can tell that thing is gonna be a monster. So easy to use, and first time out i managed 3 kills. Yea, Bulwarks are nasty especially mine. I'd rate my L9 Ao Jun and Bulwark at the same level. Both can dish out the hurt, but both can get deleted by meta bots.They both require some skill to play. Ao Jun flies like a 「fluffernutter」ing drunk. Its flight time is so short and it's easy to land in very bad spots. Bulwark's aegis shield is not that strong.I'm sure all the greek bots are on another level. Did a test run of my newly minted Hades at L3, and i can tell that thing is gonna be a monster. So easy to use, and first time out i managed 3 kills.



To me dragoon and trident bulwarks are almost a cheat builds: people camp in them at 600m range dealing insane damage. Sure, another meta can get to it but it has to cover the distance, then get through aegis and then physical. That's bs to me.

No doubt, hades is a monster. It's like night and day, every time I play my hades it's 1M+ damage when my average is 600k. That's why I don't play it too often.To me dragoon and trident bulwarks are almost a cheat builds: people camp in them at 600m range dealing insane damage. Sure, another meta can get to it but it has to cover the distance, then get through aegis and then physical. That's bs to me.



I know all the bots /builds that counter my Bulwark. If you're not running one of them, then it could seem like a cheat bot. There's more than a few counters and everyone has them in their hanger already. I run avengers bulwark with sharpshooter. Got the skill wo paying any extra AU. This bot doesn't make any top lists, but it's right up there with many of the best meta bots. Just a tiny bit below them, but that would put it at A or B tier.I know all the bots /builds that counter my Bulwark. If you're not running one of them, then it could seem like a cheat bot. There's more than a few counters and everyone has them in their hanger already.

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Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.



How do I know this to be true? Just watch Rollo Tomasi



Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.



my $.02 YMMV



Or you could just use a falcon with anti-control...no need for fangs out or any fancy jumping, just a high burst dmg at close range heavy weapon, like glory, avenger or ember.Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.How do I know this to be true? Just watchdo work.Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.my $.02 YMMV



This is the method i use based on my crappy old hanger. Yea, if someone has AJs and fens and other greek bots, then they don't need to use this.



I don't put much weight into rumors and other upcoming things on their test server. Until it's in the game, who knows what will happen. Even if they release the module, maybe someone doesn't want to run a greek bot or wants to run another module. Or maybe the SB mod will never see the light of day or come out nerfed.



And when everyone has one of these greek bots (there's alot in champs), then i think skill will come into play again because everyone will be on an even playing field. mostly even. Yea, i know. There's many different ways to skin a cat. Anti-control and a good bot would work to counter the Ares.This is the method i use based on my crappy old hanger. Yea, if someone has AJs and fens and other greek bots, then they don't need to use this.I don't put much weight into rumors and other upcoming things on their test server. Until it's in the game, who knows what will happen. Even if they release the module, maybe someone doesn't want to run a greek bot or wants to run another module. Or maybe the SB mod will never see the light of day or come out nerfed.And when everyone has one of these greek bots (there's alot in champs), then i think skill will come into play again because everyone will be on an even playing field. mostly even.

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funny thing is the invites are from pilots running Ares heavy hangars.



i never get a chance to reply but would most likely reply "i guess" Ares are the Reason i run a Spec-lista with LDM now, i get hate invites from Ares pilots like every other day calling me a Coward for running it.funny thing is the invites are from pilots running Ares heavy hangars.i never get a chance to reply but would most likely reply "i guess" Yea, a Dragoon fury or flux Fury with Lockdown Ammo will melt these 「fluffernutter」ing cowards.

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Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.



How do I know this to be true? Just watch Rollo Tomasi



Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.



my $.02 YMMV



Or you could just use a falcon with anti-control...no need for fangs out or any fancy jumping, just a high burst dmg at close range heavy weapon, like glory, avenger or ember.Bait the Ares to come to you, step inside the shield when they're huggably close enough aaaaannnnd game over miss ares (8 out of 10 times anyway)...except for last stand, which apparently EVERY BBB+ clan member has at the moment. That wrenches the whole game plan for any kind of CQ engagement... as well as ares trains.How do I know this to be true? Just watchdo work.Also, as much as I appreciate the time you put into that post, there's a lot of good info and insight there, and please don't take this as slighting, but the upcoming shield breaker module (I believe it will be active) will pretty much make it moot. So save up the green crack if you're hunting ares.my $.02 YMMV Sometimes it works. I might have to put my lone AC back on TBird for just this reason. Itâs also one of the main reasons I switched from ember to avenger. Ya just canât hug w ember due to that point blank buggieness.



If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.



Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS. What bugginess? I run an Ember on my weyland. Sometimes when one of those little 「dookie」s loki get up in my face, but i think the gun is pointing down but the splash is still hitting them, i guess?If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS.

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Member Back to Top Post by Rollo Tomasi on @fixthetridents said: Rollo Tomasi said: Sometimes it works. I might have to put my lone AC back on TBird for just this reason. Itâs also one of the main reasons I switched from ember to avenger. Ya just canât hug w ember due to that point blank buggieness.



If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.



Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS. What bugginess? I run an Ember on my weyland. Sometimes when one of those little 「dookie」s loki get up in my face, but i think the gun is pointing down but the splash is still hitting them, i guess?If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS. Seems to be a known bug (multiple reports & confirmations here on the board) with full point blank where the ember does no or extremely low damage. It’s almost like the flame doesn’t start until 25m out or so. It’s ok though, they work fine on baby Ao Jun, which at lvl 7 is the most OP bot I’ve ever played in this foresaken game.

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Member Back to Top Post by >bobby_digital< on @fixthetridents said: Rollo Tomasi said: Sometimes it works. I might have to put my lone AC back on TBird for just this reason. Itâs also one of the main reasons I switched from ember to avenger. Ya just canât hug w ember due to that point blank buggieness.



If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.



Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS. What bugginess? I run an Ember on my weyland. Sometimes when one of those little 「dookie」s loki get up in my face, but i think the gun is pointing down but the splash is still hitting them, i guess?If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS.

weyland shoots from a low profile so when a red is all up in your grille, it's pointing up, at the hitbox, not below it. At least that's the way I understand it...

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Member Back to Top Post by Deleted on Rollo Tomasi said: @fixthetridents said:



If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.



Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS. What bugginess? I run an Ember on my weyland. Sometimes when one of those little 「dookie」s loki get up in my face, but i think the gun is pointing down but the splash is still hitting them, i guess?If u lose target lock, then that's bad. But i really like the Ember because u don't need to be really precise with the aim (again, helps with in yo face brawling), and flames will lick and burn stealthed bots.Using a redeemer is worse, because if you miss there goes a chunk of your DPS. Seems to be a known bug (multiple reports & confirmations here on the board) with full point blank where the ember does no or extremely low damage. It’s almost like the flame doesn’t start until 25m out or so. It’s ok though, they work fine on baby Ao Jun, which at lvl 7 is the most OP bot I’ve ever played in this foresaken game.



I've had my doubts, but whenever i look at the red health bar, it's always dropping even if it's a little. 1 Ember doesn't deal alot of dmg, so hard to tell if it's working or not. Thanks. Hadn't seen this before.I've had my doubts, but whenever i look at the red health bar, it's always dropping even if it's a little. 1 Ember doesn't deal alot of dmg, so hard to tell if it's working or not.

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Member Back to Top Post by Rollo Tomasi on @fixthetridents said: Rollo Tomasi said: Seems to be a known bug (multiple reports & confirmations here on the board) with full point blank where the ember does no or extremely low damage. It’s almost like the flame doesn’t start until 25m out or so. It’s ok though, they work fine on baby Ao Jun, which at lvl 7 is the most OP bot I’ve ever played in this foresaken game.



I've had my doubts, but whenever i look at the red health bar, it's always dropping even if it's a little. 1 Ember doesn't deal alot of dmg, so hard to tell if it's working or not. Thanks. Hadn't seen this before.I've had my doubts, but whenever i look at the red health bar, it's always dropping even if it's a little. 1 Ember doesn't deal alot of dmg, so hard to tell if it's working or not. My embers are OE and I have 2 of em at Mk2. I’ve been using them for quite a while on different builds and for me, it’s clear when I’m hitting the target. They simply melt bots when they connect full force.