Saitama is fodder tier compared to DBS at this point. Let's address the point Saitama wankers like to bring up to claim how their caped baldy beats everyone in fiction, shall we?



1) "Saitama has no limits." Not true. Even ignoring the fact that this is a no-limits fallacy and should not be allowed, he clearly has limits within his own verse. He has to eat, sleep, use the bathroom, and needs air to breathe like he had to pinch his nose on the moon. That's perfectly in line with his own creator's words, namely that Saitama is the most human character on the show. Saitama is still a normal, mortal being. Hell, could Saitama even survive a planet blowing up? He has shown feats where he can punch aside a blast that would wipe out all life on the surface, but that hardly translates into being able to tank any planetary explosion. And, even if he could, again, Saitama dies in the vacuum of space. At this point in DBS, the characters have far surpassed Frieza on Namek, who was durable enough to survive Planet Namek blowing up in his face with little ki left and half-dead. Check. Moving on.



2) "Saitama broke his limiter." And? No, really, and? All that proves is that Saitama has limitless stamina, similar to the androids in the Cell Saga. Because he has no plateau in the same way other fighters do, it means he can keep fighting indefinitely, it does not mean he's omnipotent or that he's somehow a reality-warping cosmic entity when, as I've just illustrated above, he's a mortal human and fodder tier compared to DBS at this point. Recall that Future Trunks confirmed that for Android 17 and 18, that their ki goes on forever. This was not a dub mistranslation either. It came directly from the original Japanese release. So this really means very little compared to DBS at this point now that characters like Goku, Vegeta, and the Gods of Destruction and the Angels are shown to be far superior to the androids from the Cell Saga.



3) "Saitama is a gag character." Completely incorrect. Saitama is a trope deconstruction of the shonen/superhero archetype and that does not make him a gag character in any sense of the word. At ALL. He's more of a parody character. Legitimate gag characters are like Arale, and for Saitama fanboys to compared him to Arale is just insulting. She has far better comical feats. And Saitama has very few comical feats to suggest that he can defy physics and break reality to the same degree that other Toon Forcers like Bugs Bunney, Popeye, and Pre-Crisis Superman can. If anything, when he's fighting to a degree of seriousness, it's presented more matter-of-factly. And Saitama can be hurt. He took damage from Boros and got scratched by a cat FFS, and most of his gags appear to revolve around breaking the myth that he's an unstoppable god who can't be budged or moved, like when he failed to catch that mosquito.



4) "ONE stated that Saitama can punch with half the force of a Big Bang." Absolutely FALSE. This is just a stupid internet rumor conjured up by spiteful jealous OPM/DBZ fanboys who prefer OPM and felt angry that Goku got a universal feat they feel belongs to their caped baldy instead since it goes against "Goku's character." To date, no one has ever been able to prove ONE ever said this, and he probably never will. Again, why would Saitama be able to punch with half the force of a Big Bang? He'd probably kill himself if he ever tried to.



There we go. I completely debunked these four points. And for God's sake, use your heads next time when debating between DBS and OPM! Jiren is stronger than the Gods of Destruction who are universal beings, and like them, he has no need for ships when traversing the cosmos. He is much faster and stronger than Saitama. He stomps Saitama. Saitama would probably lose to Cell Saga characters. End of story.