First and foremost, Talkhouse Contributing Writer Liam Wilson is a good vibe technician. He’s known to moonlight as an avid psychonaut and enjoys occasional visits with his worldly possessions in Philadelphia. He spends most of his time wandering Earth in an endless pursuit of a clearer understanding of all things bass-frequency related with his band the Dillinger Escape Plan. Follow him on: Twitter , Facebook and Instagram .

In the new Talkhouse Music Podcast, underground art-hardcore-metal meets classic ’80s hair metal: Liam Wilson of the Dillinger Escape Plan chats with Kip Winger of Winger. They’re two very different musicians from two very different generations, but they find plenty of common ground: how to deal with being pigeonholed, how to be a mature band and still be exciting; they trade great stories about how their bands started, and Liam introduces Kip to the concept of math-metal. It’s a conversation that only two musicians could have. And for more musicians talking music, visit Talkhouse Music at music.thetalkhouse.com