“We supply the kids for the training courses at St George’s Park but we’ve never had anyone come and have a look at we are doing. I don’t think they want anyone to say: 'This is how to do it and move it forward.’ I would take this philosophy into a League club. You could build a team with 19-year-olds. It would be brave.’’ Some Derby-Forest rivalry briefly broke out between Ilkeston’s driving forces. Chettle has his Forest pennant on the wall and mentioned to Wilson about their recent win at the iPro. Wilson’s riposte was swift. “I played for Derby in 1983, beat Forest 2-0 [in the FA Cup]. Archie Gemmill and Andy Hill scored. You’d just been in the European Cup and Derby were near the bottom of the Second Division.’’ Chettle sighed. He loves Forest dearly, shaking his head in sadness at “seven managers in [just over] two years”, and recalled his days under Brian Clough. “There were mavericks in that team but it was all geared around honesty and hard work with a manager who knew how to get the best from players.” As with Ilkeston’s players, Chettle and Wilson are determined to make this work, to seize this chance. “I stepped away from Forest because this job was available and - how can I put this in a PC way? - because the way that it was going at Forest I was never going to get the opportunity to work with the seniors - even though I’d been there as a player for God knows how long [16 years] and in the Academy system for seven years,” said Chettle.