Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1221 Can you repeat that with more punctuation?



Also, Steam Cloud still being finicky... https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

TheYango Profile Joined September 2008 United States 10886 Posts #1222 On April 05 2014 07:03 Chaosquo wrote:

Could you elaborate on that? Do you mean some games you wont have the spare gold for it and you need armlet immediately to fight or your team has enough arcane boots?

Drums are a poor man-fighting item and a mediocre farming item. They are specifically suited for the types of games where you have to fight at that first item timing and need the movement speed to engage on backline heroes. For games where teamfights require to fight frontline heroes, it's not as effective as Armlet, and for farming games, you're better off skipping it.



Drums are a poor man-fighting item and a mediocre farming item. They are specifically suited for the types of games where you have to fight at that first item timing and need the movement speed to engage on backline heroes. For games where teamfights require to fight frontline heroes, it's not as effective as Armlet, and for farming games, you're better off skipping it. On April 05 2014 05:48 TheYango wrote:

In my experience even if the enemies dont have the coordination to kill the rocket, the target will at least run, so its a zoning spell at most. Also I would strongly argue that Rockets or Flak are superior at lvl 1 and that maxing Missile is not worth it at lvl 12+.

Don't start the rocket from vision, and coordinate it with your ultimate. The rocket has 1050 range, you can easily set it up such that by the time they see the rocket, it's difficult for them to escape, especially with your ult.



Don't start the rocket from vision, and coordinate it with your ultimate. The rocket has 1050 range, you can easily set it up such that by the time they see the rocket, it's difficult for them to escape, especially with your ult. On April 05 2014 07:03 Chaosquo wrote:

From my understanding isnt it just really useful if you ult at like lvl 7 and the enemy takes lvl 4 desolate damage?

Not a strong enough use of the skill, especially in pub games where games simply aren't coordinated enough for perfect ult usage. Not a strong enough use of the skill, especially in pub games where games simply aren't coordinated enough for perfect ult usage. Moderator

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1223 For axe, if I'm going Meka and Blink (with Arcane boots) is it better to get meka or blink first?



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TheYango Profile Joined September 2008 United States 10886 Posts #1224 Depends on game. I wouldn't put Meka in the standard recommended items though because it's an item you get if you have to, not because you want to. Moderator

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1225 I have it pretty much coupled with Arcane. No point getting arcane if youre not getting Meka.



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Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-17 07:30:58 #1226 things to do:



change necrolyte

Axe jungle guide

Ember Spirit mid guide

Urns/Wand on heroes (VS, Treant, etc.)

Rework old Ember Spirit guide

Do Nyx side-lane guide

maybe add more items to Gyro

remove assault cuirass on ember spirit

Redo PL guide

Check Stout Shields on melee farmers https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1227 Stats will be posted today, fuck Steam Cloud still shit as fuck https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-09 10:56:02 #1228 edit https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-10 07:30:57 #1229 edit fuck formatting goddamnit man did I even do it right? https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1231 Can anyone try and create/modify builds? I'm not sure my personal cloud is fucked or if it is worldwide https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Chaosquo Profile Joined February 2010 Germany 31 Posts #1232

A quote from SQSA: On April 16 2014 15:40 TheYango wrote:

Pretty much the only reason not to start Stout as a melee farming laner is if you're Bottle Crowing.



Centaur really needs a stout, and I would argue PL should get one too now that tranquils are hard to manage on him.



Also I have a question about Centaur skillbuild, are further levels in stomp worth it? It really increases the mana cost and centaur doesnt have a lot of mana. Granted he only has two skills that cost mana, but still? Centaur really needs a stout, and I would argue PL should get one too now that tranquils are hard to manage on him.Also I have a question about Centaur skillbuild, are further levels in stomp worth it? It really increases the mana cost and centaur doesnt have a lot of mana. Granted he only has two skills that cost mana, but still?

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-17 07:30:36 #1233 On April 17 2014 16:28 Chaosquo wrote:

A quote from SQSA:

Show nested quote +

On April 16 2014 15:40 TheYango wrote:

Pretty much the only reason not to start Stout as a melee farming laner is if you're Bottle Crowing.



Centaur really needs a stout, and I would argue PL should get one too now that tranquils are hard to manage on him.



Also I have a question about Centaur skillbuild, are further levels in stomp worth it? It really increases the mana cost and centaur doesnt have a lot of mana. Granted he only has two skills that cost mana, but still? A quote from SQSA:Centaur really needs a stout, and I would argue PL should get one too now that tranquils are hard to manage on him.Also I have a question about Centaur skillbuild, are further levels in stomp worth it? It really increases the mana cost and centaur doesnt have a lot of mana. Granted he only has two skills that cost mana, but still?



On April 16 2014 16:49 Torte de Lini wrote:

Can anyone try and create/modify builds? I'm not sure my personal cloud is fucked or if it is worldwide



I'll add it to the list of things to do.



PL needs a remake.



Getting your passive is situational/dependant on the lane. Some suggest getting at least one before 6. I'll add it to the list of things to do.PL needs a remake.Getting your passive is situational/dependant on the lane. Some suggest getting at least one before 6. https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1234 Found a work-around to edit builds. Going to try and edit them tomorrow/this week before the latest stats update (24th) https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-21 22:09:52 #1235 edit

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Sn0_Man Profile Joined October 2012 Tebellong 31461 Posts #1236 Gyro goes Q at level 1 in virtually all situations. Moderator SCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1237 Guides to do:



Ember Spirit (Middle)

Axe (Jungle)

Nyx (Side Lane - Support)

Elder Titan (Lane)

Tusk (Middle)



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Sn0_Man Profile Joined October 2012 Tebellong 31461 Posts Last Edited: 2014-04-21 21:59:01 #1238 oops meant to edit oh well

I don't think the "value point" in heartstopper is any good on necro. Its key use is in teamfights which rarely occur at level 1.



No mek isn't core on SD Moderator SCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302

Torte de Lini Profile Joined September 2010 Germany 7680 Posts #1239



What is core on SD? I didn't think Meka was. I have Meka as core on Witch Doctor as well which I would like to shift as well:



http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129191918 Heartstopper is because having two in Q so early can hardly be used more than twice or so.What is core on SD? I didn't think Meka was. I have Meka as core on Witch Doctor as well which I would like to shift as well: https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)

Sn0_Man Profile Joined October 2012 Tebellong 31461 Posts #1240 Force is baller on SD for saving allies and shit. Medallion too if u opt out of urn.



Force really is just a sick-ass support item. Moderator SCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302

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