A 4Chan participant self identifying as “Tom” who is familiar with the origins of the “Golden Showers” fable of the anti-Trump dossier shared specific details with radio host Jeff Kuhner on Wednesday.

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Jeff Kuhner is host of The Kuhner Report out of Boston, Massachusetts.

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Here is a rough transcript of relevant details – via Free Republic:

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Kuhner : Ok, now Tom, before you continue I want to ask you this…Because what you said to us on the phone was you were kind of ‘in on this’, correct?

: Ok, now Tom, before you continue I want to ask you this…Because what you said to us on the phone was you were kind of ‘in on this’, correct? Tom : Yeah, a lot of us got together and we were – and we came up with a joke story…

: Yeah, a lot of us got together and we were – and we came up with a joke story… Kuhner : Basically a joke story, what they call ‘fan fiction’.

: Basically a joke story, what they call ‘fan fiction’. Tom : Yeah,

: Yeah, Kuhner : And, Rick Wilson, what you said, is an establishment Republican, a big #NeverTrump’er, close with the Bush’s – Jeb Bush, but also with ties to Marco Rubio and John McCain, correct?

: And, Rick Wilson, what you said, is an establishment Republican, a big #NeverTrump’er, close with the Bush’s – Jeb Bush, but also with ties to Marco Rubio and John McCain, correct? Tom : Correct.

: Correct. Kuhner : Ok, and then so, you pushed it to Rick Wilson. He obviously took the bait. Then, what did he do with the info?

: Ok, and then so, you pushed it to Rick Wilson. He obviously took the bait. Then, what did he do with the info? Tom : Ok, so then, um, somehow , I don’t know if it was him or one of the members of his staff – but they presented it to McMullen, uh, and then, uh, who you know what pages he’s got ties to and uh, then McMullen passed it onto McCain and then McCain passed it on to Comey an now at some point in these transactions a lot of, uh, more Russian stuff was added so that not all of this – a lot of the things were changed in it and like the Russians , uh, they put more of a Russian spin on it than what we had originally come up with.

: Ok, so then, um, somehow , I don’t know if it was him or one of the members of his staff – but they presented it to McMullen, uh, and then, uh, who you know what pages he’s got ties to and uh, then McMullen passed it onto McCain and then McCain passed it on to Comey an now at some point in these transactions a lot of, uh, more Russian stuff was added so that not all of this – a lot of the things were changed in it and like the Russians , uh, they put more of a Russian spin on it than what we had originally come up with. Kuhner : The five years that they had been cultivating Trump that they had been cultivating for five years – and they wanted him to buy properties and hotels and they tried to put sweeteners in there to hook him in. Right, all of that was, I think that was added by the CIA – correct, Tom?

: The five years that they had been cultivating Trump that they had been cultivating for five years – and they wanted him to buy properties and hotels and they tried to put sweeteners in there to hook him in. Right, all of that was, I think that was added by the CIA – correct, Tom? Tom : Yeah, yeah. These are all fake things that they just put a spin on it. Which is funny, that they just throw it into a story that they thought was true to begin with. And, um, what they – ok, so, after that, like, we put in things like’ Manafort’. If you know that towards the end,’ Manafort ‘ is misspelled three different times. And so, we put that in on purpose to see if (transmission is garbled) it would ?…

: Yeah, yeah. These are all fake things that they just put a spin on it. Which is funny, that they just throw it into a story that they thought was true to begin with. And, um, what they – ok, so, after that, like, we put in things like’ Manafort’. If you know that towards the end,’ Manafort ‘ is misspelled three different times. And so, we put that in on purpose to see if (transmission is garbled) it would ?… Tom: So, we never thought it was going to go this far, exactly. And

So, we never thought it was going to go this far, exactly. And Kuhner : Tom, why did you do it (cross talk)…Tom, if you don’t mind me asking, why did you do it in the first place?

: Tom, why did you do it (cross talk)…Tom, if you don’t mind me asking, why did you do it in the first place? Tom: To annoy Rick Wilson. It wasn’t meant to, like, scuttle anyone or see who would publish it or this and that. It was just to annoy Rick Wilson.

To annoy Rick Wilson. It wasn’t meant to, like, scuttle anyone or see who would publish it or this and that. It was just to annoy Rick Wilson. Kuhner: Ok, we’re missing like why would this annoy him? Wouldn’t he love this, that, you know . . .?

Ok, we’re missing like why would this annoy him? Wouldn’t he love this, that, you know . . .? Tom: No, we’re gonna show the stuff that his son – like, where we had all the things that show what his son had said half these things (cross talk)

No, we’re gonna show the stuff that his son – like, where we had all the things that show what his son had said half these things (cross talk) Kuhner : Ah, so basically to embarrass him, to humiliate him. You believe something that your own son wrote as fiction.

: Ah, so basically to embarrass him, to humiliate him. You believe something that your own son wrote as fiction. Tom: Correct. Yes.

Here is the entire audio of the Jeff Kuhner’s conversation with “Tom.”

https://youtu.be/KzdH9eDJFIE