Shrinkzxo Profile Blog Joined August 2014 Dotoland 404 Posts Last Edited: 2015-01-08 15:33:50 #1



SCgoodman, in an astonishing fashion, defeats iAsonu with a score of 2:1. He was on live on DouyuTV while playing against iA. He was suspected cheating on air. When asked by audience and his opponent to authenticate that he did not use a hacker, he closes his stream. He later was accused by forum of using hacker and disguise to establish credibility. NeverSteam, the famous amateur protoss player who is currently on Team LEor and due to join Zenith of Origin, made his observation on tieba, a Chinese forum and said such victory is 'dubious'.



Also on tieba, Keke’s victory are also questioned with rep analysis.

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3514439915?pn=1



SCgoodman admitted to me that he used maphacks before, but claimed not this time.



All instances are under investigation conducted by WCS China staff.



On January 08 2015 16:42 FruitsbasketCN wrote:

WCS Season 1: Chinese Qualifier. Round 1

"scgoodman" used maphack,and beat iG.IA.

Scgoodman in the game did not do any investigation

Using his perfect forecast, defend all ia attack.

He is lucky?

In the past he had because of the use Maphack, was DQ from MCL(Matchday clan league,which is Chinese top amateur league)



Today, Blizzard said it did not detect any cheating.

This means that Blizzard has been unable to pass a technical inspection maphack.



Now, maphack can streaming by OBS.

Computer screen and OBS screen are not the same

This is really shame.



If you can read Chinese, you can find more information in the following pages

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3513829720

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3514279148

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3515602052



Replays:

http://pan.baidu.com/s/1mg5MY60 WCS Season 1: Chinese Qualifier. Round 1"scgoodman" used maphack,and beat iG.IA.Scgoodman in the game did not do any investigationUsing his perfect forecast, defend all ia attack.He is lucky?In the past he had because of the use Maphack, was DQ from MCL(Matchday clan league,which is Chinese top amateur league)Today, Blizzard said it did not detect any cheating.This means that Blizzard has been unable to pass a technical inspection maphack.Now, maphack can streaming by OBS.Computer screen and OBS screen are not the sameThis is really shame.If you can read Chinese, you can find more information in the following pagesReplays: Both suspects, SCgoodman, and Keke, are from NeXT.SCgoodman, in an astonishing fashion, defeats iAsonu with a score of 2:1. He was on live on DouyuTV while playing against iA. He was suspected cheating on air. When asked by audience and his opponent to authenticate that he did not use a hacker, he closes his stream. He later was accused by forum of using hacker and disguise to establish credibility. NeverSteam, the famous amateur protoss player who is currently on Team LEor and due to join Zenith of Origin, made his observation on tieba, a Chinese forum and said such victory is 'dubious'. http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3513829720?pn=1 Also on tieba, Keke’s victory are also questioned with rep analysis.SCgoodman admitted to me that he used maphacks before, but claimed not this time.All instances are under investigation conducted by WCS China staff. https://twitter.com/shrinkzxo

ZigguratOfUr Profile Blog Joined April 2012 Iraq 16029 Posts #2 Damn. I hope they resolve things soon. Maps I made recently: Nevermore: https://i.imgur.com/NiqR0Rj.jpg | Rubaiyat: https://i.imgur.com/XD3E3vd.jpg | Grand Canal: https://i.imgur.com/kNgyOCo.jpg

chipmonklord17 Profile Joined February 2011 United States 8541 Posts #3 That would be really disappointing for iA if he was considering retirement and then got knocked out of the qualifers by someone who maphacked and wasn't caught. Good on WCS china for trying to figure this out

-Kyo- Profile Blog Joined August 2010 Japan 1900 Posts #4 Hope they figure it out~ NA and China both huh? ;~; Players on NA have been mentioning how this season has been the worst yet for hackers and it looks like there are issues elsewhere alsoHope they figure it out~ Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/

phodacbiet Profile Joined August 2010 United States 1664 Posts #5 On the bright side, now blizzard will FINALLY do something about this.

friendship Profile Joined November 2014 32 Posts #6 Unfortunate fact of life on the CN server...



Great example though of how screwed the community is in terms of playing fair games because anti cheating efforts aren't prioritized on any level (thanks though for making widow mines, fixing them, un-fixing them, re-un-fixing them...)



If this isn't fundamentally resolved it will eventually deter the (dwindling?) remaining players of this game from continuing to play (and even spectate at some point) after the last expansion comes out. It taints all kinds of play on all levels-- though I assume the fanbase (not to alienate the huge number of players who only bought the game and expand for single player) is mostly interested in laddering without needing to deal with the energy drain that this garbage creates.

Orcasgt24 Profile Joined August 2011 Canada 3203 Posts #7 On January 08 2015 17:03 phodacbiet wrote:

On the bright side, now blizzard will FINALLY do something about this.

I'd like to believe you but this is Blizzard we are talking about. They don't do anything to counter hacking I'd like to believe you but this is Blizzard we are talking about. They don't do anything to counter hacking In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work

digmouse Profile Blog Joined November 2010 China 5661 Posts #8 Both cases are under investigation from Netease and Blizzard at the moment. Translator If you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.

Strelok Profile Joined January 2006 Ukraine 320 Posts #9 On January 08 2015 15:06 Shrinkzxo wrote:

Ztsman admitted to me that he used maphacker before, but claimed not this time.

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After these words i LOLed and stopped reading. Blizzard has absolutely no detection powers against maphack, so once caught maphackers have to be banned on a very long term, because next time they will learn how to hide better and will be very, very hard to catch them.

[/QUOTE]After these words i LOLed and stopped reading. Blizzard has absolutely no detection powers against maphack, so once caught maphackers have to be banned on a very long term, because next time they will learn how to hide better and will be very, very hard to catch them.

phodacbiet Profile Joined August 2010 United States 1664 Posts #10 On January 08 2015 17:13 Orcasgt24 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On January 08 2015 17:03 phodacbiet wrote:

On the bright side, now blizzard will FINALLY do something about this.

I'd like to believe you but this is Blizzard we are talking about. They don't do anything to counter hacking I'd like to believe you but this is Blizzard we are talking about. They don't do anything to counter hacking



True. I mean, it's not like this has happened in WCS before right? amiright??? /endsarcasm

True. I mean, it's not like this has happened in WCS before right? amiright??? /endsarcasm

Wormi Profile Joined December 2011 Germany 180 Posts #11 i can´t dl the replays from baidu.com. another filehost plz. I´m a real person. Beep beep.

-Kyo- Profile Blog Joined August 2010 Japan 1900 Posts #12 On January 08 2015 17:13 Orcasgt24 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On January 08 2015 17:03 phodacbiet wrote:

On the bright side, now blizzard will FINALLY do something about this.

I'd like to believe you but this is Blizzard we are talking about. They don't do anything to counter hacking I'd like to believe you but this is Blizzard we are talking about. They don't do anything to counter hacking



Yeah I have to agree with this. Unless the community really gets behind a movement on anti-hack as a few NA players have been lobbying for then nothing will really change. It's honestly up to the consumer who drives their expansion rate of return prices that make Blizzard themselves make the investment for this kind of thing.



Lets not forget, if Blizzard didn't want to do this there is always the concept of leaving a 3rd party source to create anti-hack DETECTION (the key word here) for the players. It is up to BLIZZARD to allow these things to be run/used if they themselves do not want to do anything about it but the bottom line is there is so many hackers/discontent with ladder that right now many different levels and regions are being affected by rampant cheating. It's annoying for people who do not have a pro team/good place to practice or even just play the game for fun.



Honestly, some of my best memories of BW, believe it or not, was simply having a launcher to start the game knowing I was for the most part safe against any of this sort of thing as long as the plugin was detected running for the other person.



/plsblizzard ;~; Yeah I have to agree with this. Unless the community really gets behind a movement on anti-hack as a few NA players have been lobbying for then nothing will really change. It's honestly up to the consumer who drives their expansion rate of return prices that make Blizzard themselves make the investment for this kind of thing.Lets not forget, if Blizzard didn't want to do this there is always the concept of leaving a 3rd party source to create anti-hack DETECTION (the key word here) for the players. It is up to BLIZZARD to allow these things to be run/used if they themselves do not want to do anything about it but the bottom line is there is so many hackers/discontent with ladder that right now many different levels and regions are being affected by rampant cheating. It's annoying for people who do not have a pro team/good place to practice or even just play the game for fun.Honestly, some of my best memories of BW, believe it or not, was simply having a launcher to start the game knowing I was for the most part safe against any of this sort of thing as long as the plugin was detected running for the other person./plsblizzard ;~; Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/

Cascade Profile Blog Joined March 2006 Australia 5405 Posts #13 As I understand, due to the p2p nature of sc2, it is essentially impossible to completely prevent maphackers in online tournaments. So at best, we can hope for blizzard to put in more effort into catching and banning hackers after they've hacked, but that is already very hard.



I guess you would need a live camera filming you and your screen as you play or something...

TelecoM Profile Blog Joined January 2010 United States 10249 Posts Last Edited: 2015-01-08 09:10:58 #14 On January 08 2015 17:57 -Kyo- wrote:

Honestly, some of my best memories of BW, believe it or not, was simply having a launcher to start the game knowing I was for the most part safe against any of this sort of thing as long as the plugin was detected running for the other person



That was really nice for the most part yes I agree, but it didn't take too long for people to hack even while running the launchers.



EDIT : I am not surprised by this at all, China is known for hackers. They should hire the Chinese to make a better Anti Hack probably. That was really nice for the most part yes I agree, but it didn't take too long for people to hack even while running the launchers.EDIT : I am not surprised by this at all, China is known for hackers. They should hire the Chinese to make a better Anti Hack probably. AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting

JustPassingBy Profile Blog Joined January 2011 10617 Posts #15 Wow...

FruitsbasketCN Profile Joined August 2013 China 4 Posts #16 On January 08 2015 17:56 Wormi wrote:

i can´t dl the replays from baidu.com. another filehost plz.





http://www.filedropper.com/iavsscgoodman



Forgotten, Chinanet belong to the 'LAN network'. Forgotten, Chinanet belong to the 'LAN network'.

digmouse Profile Blog Joined November 2010 China 5661 Posts Last Edited: 2015-01-08 14:03:42 #17 It's crazy that someone actually think about cheating in WCS if this is true. Translator If you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.

Cascade Profile Blog Joined March 2006 Australia 5405 Posts #18 Tricky situation for blizzard I think. They must be reluctant to disqualify, and even ban, players without more proof than unnatural army movement and a history of hacking. It seems like they have to decide exactly how much proof they need before deciding to ban someone.

BreAKerTV Profile Blog Joined November 2011 Taiwan 1583 Posts #19 This is not good... I think this could be one of the worst things to happen in the history of the WCS since WCS America Season 1 2013. Twitter: @BinGeHD. Website: breakergg.com

fruity. Profile Joined April 2012 England 1711 Posts #20 This means that Blizzard has been unable to pass a technical inspection maphack.



What do they mean by 'technical inspection map hack?'. Just that nothing was flagged by warden? Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.

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