Melania Trump made a stop on her seven-day tour in northern Africa to sit down for a much-publicized interview with ABC’s Tom Llamas, which aired Friday night after a week’s worth of teaser clips. The ground rules, Llamas pointed out, was that “no topic is off limits.” And so they embarked on a conversation full of many of the most enduring questions about the First Lady—from her apparent refusal to hold her husband’s hand to “the jacket”—and no satisfying answers were given. In short: when in doubt about anything Melania has done, it’s the media’s fault.

Trump covered a lot of ground—more than she has in two years of being First Lady—but many of her words had the air of doublespeak, a kind of obfuscation more familiar from previous presidents than the lay-it-all-out version she’s married to. Of the jacket, for example—the jacket, the “I don’t care. Do U?” jacket she wore when visiting immigrant detention facilities in Texas after child separation—she said, “It was for the people and the left-wing media who are criticizing me. It said that I didn’t care. It won’t stop me from doing what I feel is right.”

At the time, her spokesperson Stephanie Grisham released a statement saying there was no “hidden message” in the jacket. Trump, in a rare moment of revelation in the interview, contradicted that. “After the visit I put it back on because I saw that the media was obsessed about it. It was kind of a message, yes.” She then added, for the second time this week, that she wishes the media would not focus on what she wore. Moments after she said she wore a message literally written on her clothes and directed toward the media. It’s an astonishingly bald bit of contradiction that surely makes Donald Trump proud.

She told Llamas that her husband had apologized to her at least a second time while in the White House (the first was after the Access Hollywood tape leaked during the 2016 campaign), and hinted that the reason was the alleged affair with adult entertainer Stormy Daniels. When Llamas followed up and asked exactly what the apology was for, it was the one question she outright declined to answer rather than dodge: “I know I’m the First Lady, but I’m also a mother and a wife, and I’ll keep some private thoughts to myself.” Even so, Grisham offered ABC a statement after the interview was conducted: “The president often apologizes to Mrs. Trump for all the media nonsense and scrutiny she has been under since entering the White House.” The message is clear: all would be fine in the Trump marriage—all of it!—if not for that meddling media.

In the teaser clips released in the week prior to the televised special, the First Lady claimed she was the most bullied person in the world before hedging with “one of the most bullied,” and said her husband’s tweeting is not her concern. She said that she supports women who come forward with their stories of sexual assault in general, but they need “evidence,” and that her husband’s alleged affairs are not “a concern and focus” for her. She said that she’s spoken to him about personnel concerns in the White House (they no longer work there).

Though those clips gestured toward a meaty interview with a press-shy public figure in an extraordinary position, the teasers turned out to be in keeping with the whole conversation—Trump getting close to answering a question before either deflecting or generalizing about how strong she is. In the end, the major themes of the interview were “the children” and “the media,” words as meaningless as a campaign slogan, but ones that create a simple good-versus-evil story. Staying general is a fine political strategy for a representative of a White House so embattled. But it also keeps her almost entirely unknowable. Imagine if she had leaned into the ideas of her Be Best campaign and told a few specific stories about working with bullied children. Instead, she once again slipped through our fingers—and Melania is chastising the public for ever trying to hold on to her to begin with.

To many of the questions, she signaled she was done answering with a vague “I know what’s right” and “I know what my priorities are.” But what’s right according to Melania Trump is not something she ever took the time to explain. The only thing we really know is that, in this interview, she killed the “resistance Melania” conspiracy-theory narrative once and for all.