On_Slaught Profile Joined August 2008 United States 11751 Posts Last Edited: 2011-01-21 07:21:19 #1



In particular, a new gold expansion has been added which is in a very interesting location:



On January 21 2011 11:55 Zeon0 wrote:

EU server:

shakuras is back



jungle has this new expansions:



EU server:shakuras is backjungle has this new expansions:





How do you think this new expansion will change the way the map is played? Does it make it more balanced? How does the fact it is a gold and not a normal expo affect gameplay?



I think this is a great step in the right direction for a horrible map. This expo should be much easier to defend UNLESS the expo is within range of tanks from the nearby ridge... then it's still bad.



However, as others have wisely pointed out, this helps terran as much if not more. Now terran have a gold they can PF up and control the only ent from that side of the map. On top of that I think tanks do cover that expo from the middle. If not they can still be used in an attack on the expo from a safe positoin. Seems like this change doesn't fix a broken map.



EDIT: Someone did a tank range test for us.



On January 21 2011 12:20 wat454 wrote:

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On January 21 2011 11:32 KrUtiAL wrote:

I dont think so. From what i can see the new base is posted right in front of the high ground for Terran(Siege Tanks, Reapers) and Toss (Collossi) to abuse. This might make the map even worse for zerg



This is the farthest you can get with Siegetanks and they are out of range. And you Can only put max. 1-3 Siegetanks behind the mineral line because there isnt enough space for them. This is the only place i could get a siegetank behind the minerals or he would drive all the way around and go on the ground. How often do you see reapers in midgame/lategame? Colossi can harass that but for how long? The Toss has to move them up and down while is army will be behind the mineral line making the colossi vulnerable. This is the farthest you can get with Siegetanks and they are out of range. And you Can only put max. 1-3 Siegetanks behind the mineral line because there isnt enough space for them. This is the only place i could get a siegetank behind the minerals or he would drive all the way around and go on the ground. How often do you see reapers in midgame/lategame? Colossi can harass that but for how long? The Toss has to move them up and down while is army will be behind the mineral line making the colossi vulnerable.



Here is a top down view of the map:



+ Show Spoiler + On January 21 2011 16:12 smileyyy wrote:

Heres a new picture of the map

Heres a new picture of the map

Along with the return of Shakuras, the EU server has seen a change to the infamous JB map (taken form the Shakuras thread).In particular, a new gold expansion has been added which is in a very interesting location:How do you think this new expansion will change the way the map is played? Does it make it more balanced? How does the fact it is a gold and not a normal expo affect gameplay?I think this is a great step in the right direction for a horrible map. This expo should be much easier to defend UNLESS the expo is within range of tanks from the nearby ridge... then it's still bad.However, as others have wisely pointed out, this helps terran as much if not more. Now terran have a gold they can PF up and control the only ent from that side of the map. On top of that I think tanks do cover that expo from the middle. If not they can still be used in an attack on the expo from a safe positoin. Seems like this change doesn't fix a broken map. Northwestern Law Class of 2022