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ALSO, JOEL FROM CENTRAL SCOPE. -- SAN FRANCISCO. >> THE TRADE SECRET CASE THAT WAYMO BROUGHT AGAINST UBER, THAT'S THE BASIC UNDERLYING CLAIM THAT WAYMO HAS BROUGHT. IT'S TURNED INTO THE MOST COMPLICATED LAWSUIT I HAVE FOLLOWED IN 12 YEARS. IT HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT MOVING PIECES. THE MOST COMPLICATED PIECE OF THIS IS ANTHONY LEVINNY IS AT THE CENTER OF THE CASE BUT HE'S NOT A DEFENDANT. THAT'S THE MOST INTERESTING PIECE OF THIS AND IT HAS CREATED A LOT OF RIPPLE EFFECTS. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE. VONNIE: THIS EMPLOYEE IS INVOLVED, HUMAN RESOURCES IS INVOLVED, AND UBER HASN'T BEEN THE BEST AT HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. >> UBER SAID THAT THEY EXPECT HIM TO BE PART OF THE DEFENSE AND TESTIFY IN THE CASE AND ANTHONY TOOK THE FIFTH. IT COMES AFTER A YEAR WHEN GM PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR A STARTUP CALLED CRUISE. ALL OF A SUDDEN, A LOT OF TOP ENGINEERS AT PLACES LIKE GOOGLE AND TESLA SAID I COULD GET A MASSIVE PAYDAY IF I STRIKE OUT ON MY OWN COMPANY. ANTHONY LEFT GOOGLE AND STARTED A COMPANY THAT UBER BOUGHT FOR $700 MILLION. THEY'VE GOT TO TRY TO RETAIN THEIR TOP TALENT AND NOT END UP PAYING THROUGH THE NOSE TO A CAR COMPANY TO RETAIN THE TALENT. MARK: DOES THIS INDICATE A POSSIBLE SPLIT BETWEEN UBER AND ANTHONY? >> IT REALLY DOES. THIS CAN BE TRACED BACK TO THE JUDGE WHO'S BEEN INTENSELY ANNOYED WITH LEVIN ANTHONY PLEADING THE FIFTH AND UBER'S REFUSAL TO FORCE HIM TO COOPERATE. THAT FIT THE MOMENT ASSERTION -- MAKING COOPERATE BY TURNING OVER THE FILES THE JUDGES CAN IS CONVINCED HE TOOK ILLEGALLY. THIS LAWSUIT WAS FILED IN FEBRUARY. SINCE MARCH WHAT THE JUDGE HAS INSISTED THAT UBER TWO MORE, AND IT HAS RESISTED UNTIL NOW. -- TO DO MORE, AND IT HAS RESISTED UNTIL NOW. THE PRESSURE HAS FORCED THAT UPON TO BREAK. -- THAT BOND TO BREAK. THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THE JUDGE HAS BROKEN THE BOND THAT UNTIL NOW WAS VERY STRONG. MARK: WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS THIS $250 MILLION FIGURE THAT ANTHONY HAS LOST BY BEING FIRED. HOW DID WE COME TO THIS FIGURE? WHY WON'T HE BE PAID A PENNY? >> THE DEAL TO ACQUIRE HIS COMPANY -- THERE WERE CERTAIN REWARDS BUILT IN. GIVING THESE EMPLOYEES GOLDEN HANDCUFFS TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T LEAVE. THEY ARE OFTEN PLAYED OUT IN A NUMBER OF YEARS -- PAID OUT IN A