KYLE RAMOS (HOST): And then they were calling Ben Shapiro, who I’m not really a fan of, but -- and Dennis Prager, and there was one other, Dr. Peterson, that they’re Nazis. Like listen, I’m not a fan of Ben Shapiro, but the dude is obviously not a Nazi. I mean, he -- every Saturday, he doesn’t use his phone because he’s, you know -- the Sabbath.

DYLAN WHEELER: I just, I feel like the truth is like an onion and there’s so many different layers to it, and there are layers that Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro will not peel back to get to, if you know what I’m saying.

RAMOS: Yeah. I mean, I don’t know. You think so? You think about Peterson, you think he’s that way?

WHEELER: I don’t know. Well, I saw a -- I saw someone from the crowd ask him about the Jewish Question, you know asking why, “How come so many Jews, you know, have their hands in the media and control most of our mainstream media?” And literally Jordan Peterson stood on stage and was like, “Ugh.” But literally, this was -- it was awkward how long he went, “I’m not going to answer that.” And he went on to the next thing. It was really weird. I’ve met Jordan Peterson in real life. I got to shake his hand and talk to him for a little bit at a Turning Point USA event, which is why I do like that stuff.

RAMOS: Yeah.

WHEELER: Because somehow they get those huge names, people I look up to. I still hate Jordan Peterson, but the fact that he couldn’t answer that or didn’t want to break it down, maybe it was because he didn’t know how to answer it too. And that’s -- that’s actually admirable.

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See, me, I don’t hold back at all. Like the Jewish Question, I don’t know how to answer that. Like, there are some really -- I’m not saying Jews are bad, by any means. I’m saying, like, Israel has their deep state just like America has their deep state, and all that needs to be rooted out.