@Yorumi: Ok, that's strange because up until now I never had heard of that issue (not saying it doesn't exist, after reading your and liveswired's posts). I admit, I don't play VC titles regularly on Wii U and yeah, I don't own my old Nintendo systems anymore. But in my understand the lag has to be noticeable without comparison to the original to really have an impact, right? I mean, if the lag is so small that you can only notice it by comparing, it shouldn't make a difference. But you are saying it does make a difference, so I wonder why I didn't have any input lag while playing Wave Race 64, for example, or SMW or the original Mario Kart.

I'll try to focus on it next time I play a VC title though, because now this issue has caught my interest.

And it reminds me of a similar, now-outdated debate regarding input lag with wireless mice and gamepads. A long time ago, many people said they would never play with those because of the input lag. Of course, nowadays everyone plays with a wireless XB360 pad and wireless gaming mice, because there is no relevant lag! But when I read this about the Wii U Gamepad now, I wonder if it's maybe something not every human is biologically able to notice, like your senses are sharper than mine or something. Because I never noticed any lag.

@liveswired Ok first of all, I didn't buy DK64 VC because I think DK64 is a a rather cheap game compared to the other entries of the series (the same goes for MK64). But that's not the point here, of course.

But I can't concurr with all the points you mentioned:

-unoptimised controls: Are you kidding me? I mean, obviously I haven't played all VC games, but let's take Mario 64 VC as an example: I started the game and the controls felt immediately right, everything was exactly where I expected it. I actually found the button layout ingenious. Why? Because every time I wanted to play N64 games on an emulator (for example Ocarina of Time with HD textures, AA and 1080p - so beautiful!), it took me ages to set up the controls, I constantly had to change them and was never happy with them. So in that regard, I think Nintendo really did a great job with the VC controls.

-all games emulated darker: That's actually something that I've read a lot. I never noticed it myself and I even wonder how one is supposed to notice it without comparing with the original (and if you have the original, why would you get the VC version? doesn't make sense to me). Also: Who cares? It doesn't make a difference to me if the game is a bit darker or brighter. It doesn't change the gameplay or the graphics. Just set your TV's brightness higher if it's really annoying you (which again, isn't possible without comparison).

-needless bilinear filter/deflicker blurring over all SNES titles: What?! Are you for real? I love that filter and I'm so grateful that Nintendo included it. Without it, the SNES/GBA titles look terribly edgy, especially on a projector screen (but also on the gamepad). They would be a pain to watch without the filter. A lot of emulators also had these filters but they never looked good, never even came close to the filter of the Wii U.

-Slow loading times: Hadn't noticed any... but if so, it's probably because of the slow Wii U memory or because emulation isn't that simple and can get messy sometimes.

@GraveLordXD: I'm sorry, but that argument sounds nonsensical to me. You're telling me that there are some people who don't like emulators or buying extremely old hardware, but they buy a retro-console which is basically both (an emulator and old hardware combined)? If they don't like emulators, they shouldn't like retro consoles that emulate old games. If they don't like old consoles, they shouldn't buy retro consoles that use old console hardware.

Also, I don't get your point of not wanting to have 4 consoles hooked up to your TV. First of all, this is not a problem at all, you can either use a cheap switch to hook them all up or - which makes sense anyway - just hook them up with a AV-Receiver.

In the end, you can't have everything. You always have to compromise.

Either you buy the old consoles and live/deal with their shortcomings (although I wouldn't know which those would be, just connect them to the TV, play a game and be happy?).

Or you use an emulator and live with that. I don't what the shortcomings of an emulator would be if you have a decent gamepad. On the contrary, an emulator lets you play with better graphics. But using emulators for recent games is not only illegal, but also immoral (in that light, it's great that Nintendo does HD remakes).

Or just use the VC and live with the fact that it has some issues that no one cares about as long as they don't compare them to the original (because if you have the original, you can just play the original!).

Or buy a shitty retro-console and be unhappy forever. I don't know, I'd rather do a GC/N64 mobile mod than buy a retro-console.