TBD: So, how did your background as racers flow into working behind the scenes at bike races and ultimately running bike races?

Kacey: I would say really through friends, it kind of happened mainly through the Red Hook Crit, and then a smaller event, but a local community event that's called Fifth Street Cross. It's like a training series of cross races that we run in the fall.

So Red Hook Crit, I fell into being in New York for the first year of the event. David Trimble, who puts on that event, one of his sisters was at college with me and needed a ride to New York City for his birthday party. But unbeknownst to me, there was a bike race involved. And she made me bring my track bike, which I was a bit mixed on, because, you know, I thought that I was bringing it to ride on the velodrome in New York. But it turns out, it was around streets, which I had never done before. So, you know, that was a really cool experience for me, but I kind of fell into that group, and then had so much fun that I kept returning back to it. I was racing [the Red Hook Crit] series, up until 2012. That was the first year that I almost got cut from the race. Every year prior to that I was in contention for the top 10 with the men, because at that point, it was just a coed field. If I'm not going to actually be competitive, I'm not really interested in being involved. So I was like, “I'm not going to race this race anymore, it's grown too much. It's gotten too fast. And I can't compete any longer with the men.” It was at that point that David actually asked me to come direct the women's race, which he started in 2013.

Gabe: How we went from racing to promoting as athletes, traveling the world and seeing a lot of different productions along the way and growing through the sport really influences how we view races and events. We were both beginners at one point. My struggle through the sport as an athlete, compared to Kacey's has actually been really influential in my experience. Because I wasn't as good. So like, I really had to learn the sport, I really had to learn how to get results and get my USA cycling points to upgrade through the system. And then I jumped over to Europe for a summer and raced in Belgium, just getting my head kicked in every week. That really helped me when I came back to race on the NRC circuit for a few years and do USA Crits when it was new. So I think doing that and then transitioning into working Red Hook Crit, just as a volunteer, just because we wanted to help David out, is sort of a really interesting trajectory. I didn't get into bike racing to become a promoter. I got into bike racing, because I really loved it. And now I'm trying to figure out how to continue that stoke, for new people.