11:56 PM - Morinel: Any thoughts on Biden's MBTI? :P

11:56 PM - Galahaut: "EMBRYOS ARE HUMAN BEINGS BECAUSE MINE LOOKED LIKE A BEAN!"

11:57 PM - Galahaut: definitely E...

11:57 PM - Morinel: I'm thinking he's an ENFJ

11:57 PM - Galahaut: yeah

11:57 PM - Morinel: Definitely strong extraverted feeling in him

11:57 PM - Galahaut: definitely ENF.

11:58 PM - Galahaut: actually he could be S I suppose.

11:58 PM - Morinel: What makes you say that?

11:59 PM - Galahaut: Well you can't really determine S/N just by the outward projections.

11:59 PM - Galahaut: More about how he gets there.

11:59 PM - Morinel: Well the difference between ESFJ and ENFJ is sensing and intuition

11:59 PM - Morinel: So basically: does he have Si-Ne or Ni-Se

11:59 PM - Galahaut: yeah

11:59 PM - Galahaut: that's why I said he could be either =P

Friday, October 12, 2012

12:00 AM - Morinel: So... which one? :P

12:00 AM - Galahaut: I don't know!

12:00 AM - Galahaut: I need more facts!

12:00 AM - Galahaut: =P

12:00 AM - Morinel: Hm...

12:00 AM - Morinel: To wikipedia!

12:00 AM - Galahaut: hah

12:01 AM - Morinel: Biden attended the Archmere Academy in Claymont,[13] where he was a standout halfback/wide receiver on the high school football team; he helped lead a perennially losing team to an undefeated season in his senior year.

12:01 AM - Morinel: Yep he's ENFJ

12:01 AM - Galahaut: biden is ENFJ

12:01 AM - Galahaut: according to this site: http://www.celebritytypes.com/enfj.php

12:01 AM - Galahaut: =P

12:01 AM - Galahaut: Biden: "[A fundamental] part of being a public servant [is] absorbing the anger of people who don't know where to turn."

Biden: "I ... have absolute faith in the heart of the American people. The greatest resource in this country is the grit, the resolve, the courage, the basic decency, and the stubborn pride of its citizens."

12:01 AM - Morinel: That site is sometimes accurate

12:01 AM - Morinel: I saw that but wasn't sure if I trusted it

12:01 AM - Galahaut: lol goebbels

12:01 AM - Galahaut: quick

12:01 AM - Galahaut: send this to fox news

12:02 AM - Galahaut: "BREAKING NEWS: JOE BIDEN, JOE GOEBBELS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?!"

12:02 AM - Morinel: LOL

12:02 AM - Morinel: Nice.

12:02 AM - Morinel: I like how the evil people are in black

12:03 AM - Galahaut: heh

12:03 AM - Morinel: So that football thing is definitely Se

12:03 AM - Morinel: Let's see what else I can find

12:03 AM - Morinel: Biden attended the University of Delaware in Newark, where he was more interested in sports and socializing than in studying,[10] although his classmates were impressed by his cramming abilities.

12:03 AM - Morinel: Sounds like Se + Fe

12:03 AM - Morinel: Cramming = Ni

12:04 AM - Morinel: (and Ti)

12:04 AM - Morinel: Biden said it was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation

12:04 AM - Morinel: This reeks of Se

12:05 AM - Morinel: Someone with Si likely wouldn't have that problem

12:05 AM - Galahaut: it reeks of US education

12:05 AM - Galahaut: but yes

12:05 AM - Galahaut: anyway

12:05 AM - Galahaut: afk sleep

12:05 AM - Morinel: Alright. I'll try to type Ryan next

12:05 AM - Galahaut: heh

12:06 AM - Galahaut: Ayn Rand - Atheism

12:06 AM - Galahaut: done.

12:06 AM - Morinel: what

12:07 AM - Morinel: Ryan attended St. Mary's Catholic School in Janesville, where he played on the seventh-grade basketball team.[16] He attended Joseph A. Craig High School in Janesville, where he was elected president of his junior class, and thus became prom king.[

12:07 AM - Morinel: Definitely E

12:07 AM - Morinel: And Se

12:07 AM - Morinel: So Exxx so far

12:07 AM - Morinel: He was on his high school's ski, track and varsity soccer teams and played basketball in a Catholic recreational league.

12:07 AM - Morinel: Se is probably his dominant or secondary function

12:07 AM - Morinel: The platitudes he uses are consistent with Ti...

12:07 AM - Morinel: Maybe Se + Ti

12:07 AM - Morinel: So possibly ESTP

12:08 AM - Morinel: Actually his Ti is probably lower (maybe inferior)

12:08 AM - Morinel: Maybe ESFP

12:08 AM - Morinel: no wait nevermind

12:10 AM - Morinel: I think that's it

12:10 AM - Morinel: Platitudes are also consistent with Fi

12:10 AM - Morinel: So Se + Fi + Te + Ni

12:11 AM - Morinel: Rand was an INTJ

12:11 AM - Morinel: Apparently

12:12 AM - Morinel: So that would explain why she inspired him

12:12 AM - Morinel: Because they have the same functions

12:12 AM - Morinel: "speech that same year at the Atlas Society, he said he grew up reading Rand, and that her books taught him about his value system and beliefs."

Galahaut is now Away.

12:12 AM - Morinel: "Ryan required staffers and interns in his congressional office to read Rand[35] and gave copies of her novel Atlas Shrugged as gifts to his staff for Christmas."

12:12 AM - Morinel: Definitely Te

12:13 AM - Morinel: That's quite interesting

12:13 AM - Morinel: Biden is an ENFJ and Ryan is an ENFP

12:13 AM - Morinel: They're like arch enemies

12:13 AM - Morinel: (not really)

12:13 AM - Morinel: oh nevermind I mean ESFP

12:14 AM - Morinel: Biden = ENFJ, Ryan = ESFP

12:14 AM - Morinel: "What's unique about what's happening today in government, in the world, in America, is that it's as if we're living in an Ayn Rand novel right now. I think Ayn Rand did the best job of anybody to build a moral case of capitalism, and that morality of capitalism is under assault."

12:14 AM - Morinel: Oh my god this is definitely inferior Ni

12:14 AM - Morinel: (not seeing the real big picture and clinging to a delusion)

12:15 AM - Morinel: Okay maybe that judgement is harsh but still.

12:15 AM - Morinel: Ryan rejected Rand's philosophy as an atheistic one, saying it "reduces human interactions down to mere contracts."

12:15 AM - Morinel: Definitely Fi

12:15 AM - Morinel: Fi prefers to think of people as individuals

12:16 AM - Morinel: Ryan is not a Rand disciple, and that some of his proposals do not follow Rand's philosophy of limited government; Brook refers to Ryan as a "fiscal moderate."

12:16 AM - Morinel: Okay that makes sense

12:17 AM - Morinel: That was fun.

12:17 AM - Morinel: I need to type more people.

12:20 AM - Morinel: I hope you don't mind if I use you as a notepad.

12:20 AM - Morinel: Going to type Obama next

12:21 AM - Morinel: http://customersecrets.com/paul-ryan-the-warrior-vp-candidate/

12:21 AM - Morinel: This person agrees with me.

12:21 AM - Morinel: Some other people are saying ISTJ

12:22 AM - Morinel: I don't think Si + Ne makes sense though

12:26 AM - Morinel: "Ryan supports the Tea Party's belief in "individual rights, distrust of big government and an allegorical embrace of the Founding Fathers."

12:28 AM - Morinel: Clinto was supposedly an ESFP as well

12:28 AM - Morinel: Clinton*

12:29 AM - Morinel: I doubt that though

12:30 AM - Morinel: Maybe not... hm

12:31 AM - Morinel: http://www.celebritytypes.com/esfp.php

12:31 AM - Morinel: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Paul_Ryan_official_portrait.jpg

12:31 AM - Morinel: They definitely have similar faces...

12:31 AM - Morinel: Especially the eyes

12:31 AM - Morinel: Look really closely.

12:32 AM - Morinel: And eyebrows

12:32 AM - Morinel: Oh god Bieber is an ESFP. I hate Ryan even more now.

12:34 AM - Morinel: Okay, Obama now.

12:34 AM - Morinel: "He described his struggles as a young adult to reconcile social perceptions of his multiracial heritage."

12:34 AM - Morinel: Fe.

12:34 AM - Morinel: No doubt about it.

12:35 AM - Morinel: "The opportunity that Hawaii offered—to experience a variety of cultures in a climate of mutual respect—became an integral part of my world view, and a basis for the values that I hold most dear."

12:35 AM - Morinel: Ne.

12:35 AM - Morinel: And possibly Si

12:35 AM - Morinel: (well definitely Si if it's Ne)

12:35 AM - Morinel: Obama has also written and talked about using alcohol, marijuana, and cocaine during his teenage years to "push questions of who I was out of my mind"

12:35 AM - Morinel: Definitely Ne + Ti

12:35 AM - Morinel: I'm thinking ENTP

12:36 AM - Morinel: (that's Ne + Ti + Fe + Si)

12:36 AM - Morinel: "Obama expressed regret for his high-school drug use."

12:36 AM - Morinel: Si + Fe

12:36 AM - Morinel: Definitely.

12:38 AM - Morinel: "I've got relatives who look like Bernie Mac, and I've got relatives who look like Margaret Thatcher."

12:38 AM - Morinel: Si.

12:38 AM - Morinel: Attention to details.

12:39 AM - Morinel: Inferior Si would also explain why he likes basketball to some extent.

12:40 AM - Morinel: "I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life."

12:40 AM - Morinel: Inferior Si.

12:40 AM - Morinel: http://www.celebritytypes.com/entp.php

12:40 AM - Morinel: This agrees with me.

12:40 AM - Morinel: "[As an adolescent I was] arguing all the time, usually about me failing to abide by ... petty and arbitrary rules. I found that I could generally win these arguments."

12:40 AM - Morinel: Ne.

12:41 AM - Morinel: "There are some things about being president that I still have difficulty doing. For example, faking emotion. Because I feel it is an insult to the people I'm dealing with."

12:41 AM - Morinel: Haha, definitely tertiary Fe

12:41 AM - Morinel: Also the eyes thing again

12:41 AM - Morinel: ENTPs are so cool.

12:42 AM - Morinel: And finally, Romney.

12:43 AM - Morinel: Not particularly athletic, he also did not distinguish himself academically.

12:43 AM - Morinel: hm...

12:43 AM - Morinel: At Cranbrook, Romney helped manage the ice hockey team, and he joined the pep squad.[18] During his senior year, he joined the cross country running team.[14] He belonged to eleven school organizations and school clubs overall, including the Blue Key Club, a booster group he had started.

12:44 AM - Morinel: Sounds like Se

12:44 AM - Morinel: Possibly inferior or tertiary because he wasn't athletic earlier in life

12:44 AM - Morinel: Makes sense once that develops he may take up sports

12:45 AM - Morinel: Romney became involved in several pranks while attending Cranbrook.

12:45 AM - Morinel: Rebellious Fi maybe?

12:45 AM - Morinel: Inferior Fi

12:45 AM - Morinel: I'm thinking ENTJ

12:45 AM - Morinel: (Te + Ni + Se + Fi)

12:46 AM - Morinel: Despite increasing radicalization on campus with the beginnings of 1960s social and political movements, he kept a well-groomed appearance.

12:46 AM - Morinel: Sounds very Se like

12:46 AM - Morinel: Maybe Te professionalism too

12:48 AM - Morinel: He initially became demoralized and later recalled it as the only time when "most of what I was trying to do was rejected."

12:48 AM - Morinel: Sounds like Te

12:48 AM - Morinel: "Most individual Mormon missionaries do not gain many converts[nb 4] and Romney was no exception:[32] he later estimated ten to twenty for his entire mission.[37][nb 5] He initially became demoralized and later recalled it as the only time when "most of what I was trying to do was rejected."

12:48 AM - Morinel: there's the full quote

12:49 AM - Morinel: He soon gained recognition within the mission for the many homes he called on and the repeat visits he was granted.[10] He was promoted to zone leader in Bordeaux in early 1968, and soon thereafter became assistant to the mission president in Paris.

12:49 AM - Morinel: Definitely Te

12:49 AM - Morinel: At the Mission Home, he enjoyed far more comfortable accommodations than he previously had elsewhere in the country.

12:49 AM - Morinel: Se. :P

12:50 AM - Morinel: The business career jives with ENTJs

12:50 AM - Morinel: weird.

12:50 AM - Morinel: http://www.celebritytypes.com/istj.php

12:50 AM - Morinel: ISTJ, really?

12:51 AM - Morinel: No fucking way.

12:51 AM - Morinel: That makes no sense

12:51 AM - Morinel: They share Fi and Te...

12:53 AM - Morinel: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-melcher/entj-romney-vs-enfj-obama_b_1891074.html

12:53 AM - Morinel: LOL at ENFJ Obama

12:55 AM - Morinel: He has Ne, not Ni

Galahaut is now Online.

12:57 AM - Morinel: Well I hope you enjoyed all of that

12:58 AM - Morinel: To recap, Biden = ENFJ, Ryan = ESFP, Obama = ENTP, Romney = ENTJ

12:59 AM - Morinel: btw your "Ayn Rand - Atheism" was pretty accurate

1:00 AM - Morinel: Makes sense because he has inferior Ni while Rand has dominant Ni

1:00 AM - Morinel: Also Fi is very spiritual

1:00 AM - Morinel: It's aux for him instead of tertiary for Rand

1:25 AM - Morinel: I changed my mind about Romney

1:26 AM - Morinel: "Data-driven, Romney often played the role of a devil's advocate during exhaustive analysis of whether to go forward with a deal."

1:26 AM - Morinel: That's Ne + Si

1:26 AM - Morinel: So... ESTJ

1:26 AM - Morinel: Still inferior Fi so that makes more sense.

1:26 AM - Morinel: I had a funny feeling he wasn't an N.