While ‘Mayor Pete’ Buttigieg still doesn’t have any real policy proposals, he does have a strong opinion about Thomas Jefferson, namely that he is “problematic.”

Appearing on the The Hugh Hewitt Show, Buttigieg said that he believes renaming things that were named in Jefferson’s honor is “the right thing to do.”

While on the show, Buttigieg was asked for his opinion on the annual Indiana Democratic dinner’s name being changed in 2016. It was previously called the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner.

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“Well, let’s go to policy now—a very blunt question because you talk about going to every Jefferson-Jackson Dinner in Indiana when you were running statewide. Should Jefferson-Jackson dinners be renamed everywhere because both were holders of slaves?” Hewitt asked.

“Yeah, we’re doing that in Indiana. I think it’s the right thing to do,” Buttigieg responded. “Over time, you develop and evolve on the things you choose to honor … Jefferson is more problematic. There’s a lot of course to admire in his thinking and his philosophy, but then again if you plunge into his writings, especially the notes on the state of Virginia, you know that he knew slavery was wrong.”

Buttigieg said that while the Democrats do not want to erase him from history books, they do want to stop honoring him.

“The real reason I think there is a lot of pressure on this is the relationship between the past and present that we’re finding in a million different ways that racism isn’t some curiosity out of the past that we’re embarrassed about but moved on from,” Buttigieg said. “It’s alive. It’s well. It’s hurting people and it’s one of the main reasons to be in politics today is to try to change or reverse the harms that went along with that.”