



Quote: Damodred, Moiraine : U. Blue Ajah EOW, DR3, S1, FProl. Lineage S17.



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She knows that Lanfear survived passage through the doorframe ter'angreal with her; she saw Lanfear dragged off. She knows that a man she did not recognize (Moridin) came to see her in her captivity and said she was the wrong one, it must be the other. She suspects that Lanfear was freed.



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When Mat and Thom find and rescue her, Moiraine is suspended in mid-air, naked except for the blue jewel on her forehead, her Great Serpent ring, and the "acrobat" bracelet angreal . She seems asleep or unconscious, slowly turning in the air, writhing slowly, murmuring. She appears to be in a haze, so they cannot really make her out at first. (I think actually



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getting to her engenders feeling of being burned. It is Thom who actually does it, in the end.)



They have been rummaging through her experiences, making her relive them in the form of dreams that seem like real life, raping her mind in effect. They concentrated on things that engendered strong emotion, whether love or hate or fear of whatever, so long as it is strong. The point is to feed off the engendered emotion. When repetition dulls the emotion, they would alter the events to make the emotions strong again. They always made these changes in slow increments, just enough to strengthen the emotion again without wasting any. Example: Lan dumped in the pond, first just as it really happened, then he became rougher at it until [he] beat her first, and she was so shocked she could not channel; then he made love to her; then he raped her; then she killed him. Slow progressions through possibilities, however improbable they were in reality, just so long as they intensify the emotions. They could not introduce things outside of her memory -- for example, somebody she has never seen -- but anything in there already could be rearranged any way they wanted. Example: she could as a grown woman watch her mother (dead before she reached adulthood) plot and execute the murder of her father (who died in battle when she was a child) with a collection of people glimpsed during her travels.



There have also been periods where she was brought back to consciousness. Awareness of what is happening also increases the emotional aspects.



This is the same thing that was done to Lanfear, until she was "rescued" by Moridin/Ishamael.



Moiraine doesn't know what happened to Lanfear. When they passed through the doorframe ter'angreal , she only clung to consciousness long enough to know that they had both passed through, that the doorframe was burning. When she woke, she was floating in air, and they were explaining to her what was going to happen. To heighten her emotions. She believes that she had relived a number of incidents for them before that. While floating, she could not speak.



One set of memories never had to be heightened or changed. Memories of Thom always produced as strong an emotion every time, just as they were. She thinks they are what have kept her sane. She is surprised that years have not passed.



One consequence of what was done to her is the erosion of her ability to channel. With the bracelet angreal , she is stronger than she was before, as strong as Nynaeve, true "Forsaken class". Without it, she has so little ability left, that if she had come to the Tower that way, they would have taught her enough to be safe and hustled her out before her feet had more than touched down. Without it, it is an effort for her to light a candle; she can pick up a book with effort, but the blow she could deliver would be lighter than her arm could give.



She hopes that Lanfear is still somewhere there, undergoing the same fate, or at least that she underwent it long enough to suffer the consequences she herself has.



She will recall that once she was brought back to consciousness to find a man there (Ishamael, though she doesn't know it,



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already as Moridin), apparently young, tall, muscular, beautifully handsome. She was not the woman he wanted. He wasn't interested in her at all, and he seemed irritated at having his time wasted, impatient. She was returned to the "sleep" in moments, but she recalls his appearance very clearly; he frightened her for some reason, and maybe because he was part of her memory, as was her fear of him, the snakes(?)/foxes(?) incorporated him into her dreams when they went to making things more complicated for her. The reinforcement, plus the things done in those particular dreams, have increased that fear to the point where she shivers thinking of him and her teeth might chatter if she saw him in the flesh.



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She has fallen in love with Thom Merrilin, in part for what she claims is a foolish reason: He makes her laugh.



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Moiraine got three answers inside the doorframe ter'angreal in the Stone of Tear. Her answers came before she went to the Waste and so could not in any way involved what her visions were in the testing ter'angreal in Rhuidean. I DO NOT THINK ANY OF HERS HAVE BEEN REVEALED. Where and when did she say that she knew the face of the man she would marry better than any of the others knew who they would?



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Quote: Myrelle Berengari . R. Green Ajah.



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Warders: [...]



Lan Mandragoran: His bond passed to her with Moiraine's disappearance/"death". This arrangement was made between Moiraine and Myrelle, in contravention of custom for the past 400 years, without Lan's prior knowledge. She had agreed to pass that bond on to Nynaeve "when Nynaeve achieved the shawl and was ready." She made a great effort to force Nynaeve to readiness when she felt the bond pass to her, and she objected to sending Lan on to Nynaeve because she didn't think Nynaeve was ready for any Warder, much less a man in Lan's fragile, volatile, and dangerous state.



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Head the Green Ajah among the rebels. L40. This is largely because they recognize her organizational-managerial-command skills. Among Greens, these count in many ways as much as or more than strength or skill in the Power; at least to the extent that you can be not very strong at all, but if you have good leadership abilities, or good managerial or organizational skills, you will find yourself moving up the hierarchy in the Greens, and the Greens do have a very well defined hierarchy, organized much like military rank, though without titles. Every Green knows in her head the roughly pyramidal chart of who ranks where. You can be recommended for promotion up the chart, promoted or demoted, according to your performance as evaluated by those above you. You can be leaped over others already ahead of you, or dropped as far as the bottom tier from any height, though either is uncommon.



In truth, because of the scheme to control events being run by the Ajahs other than Red and Blue, Myrelle and the other sisters who accepted positions as "head" of their Ajah in exile are all in some trouble back in the Tower,



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internal Ajah trouble that has nothing to do with the rebellion. The choices were made by the sisters as a whole, who did not know of the scheme by the upper ranks of the Ajahs.



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Myrelle "knew" that Moiraine was dead as soon as she felt Lan's bond pass to her. If nothing else, this would be when she suddenly became "aware" of him.



She didn't know Lan's feelings for Nynaeve until they were revealed to her by Egwene, though she thought that explained a good deal. Both she and Nisao initially thought any such feelings must be on Nynaeve's part alone, that no one could captured [sic] Lan's heart because of his dedication to his one-man war.



She promised to pass his bond on to Nynaeve when N became Aes Sedai and was ready for a Warder. Nynaeve has been raised to Aes Sedai faster than any of them expected; now Nynaeve is not there, and in any case, Myrelle does not think Lan is any shape to be handed over to a young and inexperienced Aes Sedai who is not at all ready to handle something like him.



Myrelle took Lan to her bed; this was to last until she had begun making him think of life again, to however small a degree, it being her belief that fucking makes you center on life rather than death. She had to use the bond to compel him, sometimes, which she found both odd and somewhat insulting.



NOTE: Unlike the situation with Moiraine, where she and Myrelle prepared things so that the bond would pass at Moiraine's death, Myrelle and Nynaeve will have to be together for his bond to be passed between them. He does not have to be there, but I think Nynaeve insists on it, which Myrelle will approve of, though she will be the one who says he doesn't have to etc as a test.



The discovery by Egwene and Siuan of the situation with Lan led to Myrelle and Nisao being forced to swear fealty to Egwene personally.



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X No one asked about Moiraine, but there's some interesting stuff in her entry that I actually typed out last time we visited (on that last day when we couldn't scan) and I kept secret all this time because I thought it might make it into the Companion. Her entry starts on p. 152.I also forgot to add Chris's request for Myrelle, whose entry starts on Page 88:

Qui nos rodunt confundantur, et cum iustis non scribantur.

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