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sfotex · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 225 Sep 22, 2012 · Sandy, UT sltrib.com/sltrib/news/5494…



Two injured climbers rescued from Big Cottonwood Canyon

Accident » One climber in serious condition after fall near Storm Mountain.

By Bob Mims | The Salt Lake Tribune

First Published Sep 21 2012 11:42 am  Last Updated Sep 21 2012 04:14 pm

Salt Lake County Search and Rescue workers retrieved two injured climbers late Thursday night from a cliff side near Storm Mountain in Big Cottonwood Canyon.



Unified Police Capt. Kris Ownby said Friday that the two men were rappelling down the Challenge Buttress, just across from Storm Mountain, about 8 p.m. in tandem, alternating as counterbalancing weights to each other. One of them fell off the end of the rope, and both fell as a result.



A 25-year-old climber tumbled about 10 feet, while the second climber, a 31-year-old man, dropped 40 feet.



Ownby said the 25-year-old suffered a lower leg laceration and possibly sprained ankle, but his companion sustained more severe injuries to his legs and upper body.



About 20 rescuers, including four paramedics, responded to the scene. The 25-year-old climber was aided in completing his ascent by 9:30 p.m. and drove himself to a hospital to be checked out. The other climber was lowered by rescuers shortly thereafter and taken to University Hospital in serious but non-life threatening condition. Two injured climbers rescued from Big Cottonwood CanyonAccident » One climber in serious condition after fall near Storm Mountain.By Bob Mims | The Salt Lake TribuneFirst Published Sep 21 2012 11:42 am  Last Updated Sep 21 2012 04:14 pmSalt Lake County Search and Rescue workers retrieved two injured climbers late Thursday night from a cliff side near Storm Mountain in Big Cottonwood Canyon.Unified Police Capt. Kris Ownby said Friday that the two men were rappelling down the Challenge Buttress, just across from Storm Mountain, about 8 p.m. in tandem, alternating as counterbalancing weights to each other. One of them fell off the end of the rope, and both fell as a result.A 25-year-old climber tumbled about 10 feet, while the second climber, a 31-year-old man, dropped 40 feet.Ownby said the 25-year-old suffered a lower leg laceration and possibly sprained ankle, but his companion sustained more severe injuries to his legs and upper body.About 20 rescuers, including four paramedics, responded to the scene. The 25-year-old climber was aided in completing his ascent by 9:30 p.m. and drove himself to a hospital to be checked out. The other climber was lowered by rescuers shortly thereafter and taken to University Hospital in serious but non-life threatening condition.

rcguy · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 0 Sep 22, 2012 · Unknown Hometown Simul rapping can be expeditious but vigilance must rule the day. Hope both parties fully recover.

anant Asthana · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 5 Sep 22, 2012 · salt lake city utah I was the 23 yesr old involved in the accident. We are still not sure what happened. My friend and i were still hooked onto the rope after we fell because i had knotted the ends. All i remember is him just falling really fast and hitting the ground and then i fell as a result. I have simul rappeled several times before i still do not know what went wrong or what i should do different im the future.

sfotex · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 225 Sep 22, 2012 · Sandy, UT Anant,

How is your friend doing?

Prussic backups on a simu rappel can add some safety.



Were you rapping on one rope two?

Eric Krantz · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 420 Sep 22, 2012 · Black Hills anant wrote: I was the 23 yesr old involved in the accident. We are still not sure what happened. My friend and i were still hooked onto the rope after we fell because i had knotted the ends. All i remember is him just falling really fast and hitting the ground and then i fell as a result. I have simul rappeled several times before i still do not know what went wrong or what i should do different im the future. He fell first while your rope was tight, then you fell after he hit the ground? He fell first while your rope was tight, then you fell after he hit the ground?

John Douglass · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 60 Sep 23, 2012 · Seattle, WA I'm sorry to hear about your accident. I'm guessing that the ends of the rope, knots and all, were on the ground. From your description, its seems likely that the first person lost control of the rope/belay device and hit the ground, after which the rope continued to pull through the device, thereby causing the second person to hit the ground.

anant Asthana · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 5 Sep 23, 2012 · salt lake city utah My friend justin is doing okay. He has a fractured vertebrate but the doctors say he will heal up 100 %.

I do think i need to start using prusiks for backup specially when using single ropes.

I do think that he just lost control and fell which resulted in me falling.

I am not sure what route this was but it was on the east face of Challenge buttress and has a second 5.11 pitch.

Rob Gordon · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 105 Sep 23, 2012 · Hollywood, CA Sucks dude. One reason I don't rope climb often is my fear that my partner will make a mistake or even worse, I will. Hope you both recover physically and mentally soon.

Guy Keesee · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 312 Oct 2, 2012 · Moorpark, CA "Sucks dude. One reason I don't rope climb often is my fear that my partner will make a mistake or even worse, I will."



You Kant be serious.



Just don't do stupid dumb sh_T, like simul rap.

rging · Joined Jul 2011 · Points: 210 Oct 4, 2012 · Salt Lake City, Ut sfotex wrote: Prussic backups on a simu rappel can add some safety. Were you rapping on one rope two? You would use an auto block not a prusik but you had better have it dialed in if rapping single strand as the number of raps/lenght/friction needs to be just right. Of course if you don't extend your rap device you can get it sucked in and cause a mess, plus if your partner isn't using one it doesn't help at all. The safest way to do a simul rap, if you must,is to connect yourself to your partner with a long sling, that way neither of you gets away from the other no matter what happens. You would use an auto block not a prusik but you had better have it dialed in if rapping single strand as the number of raps/lenght/friction needs to be just right. Of course if you don't extend your rap device you can get it sucked in and cause a mess, plus if your partner isn't using one it doesn't help at all. The safest way to do a simul rap, if you must,is to connect yourself to your partner with a long sling, that way neither of you gets away from the other no matter what happens.

M Sprague · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 4,866 Oct 4, 2012 · New England rging wrote: The safest way to do a simul rap, if you must,is to connect yourself to your partner with a long sling, that way neither of you gets away from the other no matter what happens. If one person lost control, you would still both fall. If one person lost control, you would still both fall.

Rob Gordon · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 105 Oct 4, 2012 · Hollywood, CA Guy- Not saying it's a rational fear, just that I don't like the idea that if I screw up it could affect someone else. And yeah, you would never catch me doing a simul-rappel unless there was a volcano spewing lava right above us and we had to both get off the summit at the same time.

Tim Stich · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,503 Oct 4, 2012 · Colorado Springs, Colorado This is a good reason not to simulrappel. No thanks. Unless you are rappelling a 25 pitch route in a day, there is no point. And as you said, you have no idea what your partner did wrong. Who needs that?

Boissal . · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 1,541 Oct 4, 2012 · Small Lake, UT CJC wrote: I don't see the point either unless they couldn't decide who should go first It's much faster, esp. with double ropes. The whole near-death part definitively detracts from it though. I've come to hate it and pretty much refuse to do it. It's much faster, esp. with double ropes. The whole near-death part definitively detracts from it though. I've come to hate it and pretty much refuse to do it.

Avi Katz · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 260 Oct 4, 2012 · Seattle, WA sfotex wrote: Anant, How is your friend doing? Prussic backups on a simu rappel can add some safety. Were you rapping on one rope two? prussik backups on EVERY rappel adds safety. prussik backups on EVERY rappel adds safety.