Mick West said:



https://www.metabunk.org/threads/de...-the-political-compass.2039/page-2#post-56140







There was more variety within the debunker group than there was difference between debunkers and CTs. And other telling aspect of this is the politics of debunkers. Many debunkers identify as Libertarian, which is the antithesis of trusting the government. When I took a survey of the political compass of metabunk posters, there was no identifiable difference between "debunkers" and "conspiracy theorists" (labels for convenience only).There was more variety within the debunker group than there was difference between debunkers and CTs. Click to expand...

There has to be different kinds of debunkers. I am a Republican Authoritarian type. I suggest you check out this article. Very good observations here about the nature of internet communities and how most lean libertarian in nature. http://dbzer0.com/blog/why-are-there-so-many-right-libertarians-online/ To be frank a lot of what you just described in your first OP are libertarian or liberal talking points. You called me a troll for pointing out that there is a green lobby and questioning your stance on Global Warming. None of which you mentioned is a serious political problem in your OP. Yes there are Global Warming doomsdayer wackos out there who have no idea what they are talking about!!!! Science shouldn't be politicized. In any way. Though, there lies the problem. You cannot separate the two. Science and politics have always gone hand in hand. Though in the early days the Church pulled the strings. Not allowing people to research without official permission from the church. A lot of the great minds of 1700s and 1600s were banned from the church entirely once they were found out to be doing secret research! We are still having debates about God in the pledge and what is considered "science" in schools. I'm not saying that the government is pulling the strings like some Cts believe. But it's always the projects that get the most money that seem to get the most recognition, even though the next guy might have the "real answers". Though of course, "real answers" is usually a CT buzzword. That still doesn't mean science is any more or less corrupt than any other industry. People like to blame politics, but in a way everything is all interconnected. In a way, it's the only way the world can operate! If your hoping for some type of vast system change, it's not going to happen in this reality. Best stick to science fiction and the alternate reality of the libertarians for that one!Just because a lot of debunkers that hang around here are libertarians. Doesn't mean ALL debunkers are libertarians. I despise the libertarians moreso than the progressive liberals. And I am a Republican! You don't know how much flack I get for that.As for my stance on Government trust. I agree with them for the most part. I would like it if politicians were a little more blunt, a little more cooperative, and a little smaller. I think that smart regulation is a good thing. But then again, "smart" seems to be an opinion in politics. I also believe that the Government can be run much more efficiently, and needs to tackle fraud and waste. These are the most important factors in operating a successful business. Why can't the government be run like that? Though, there are a lot of crooks in politics. That's not changing anytime soon!In my view the general field of politics raises important issues for the wrong reasons or at the wrong time. This always happens in response to a huge national disaster or a national story. Politics is way too emotional to ever be rational and I think that's what bothers the vast majority of libertarians. At least the ones who think they are being the rational ones. Though, I'm not sure what it will take for politicians to change. I think it needs to embrace technology and get into the 21st century. Though that's hard to do when you have half of my party fearing "big brother" computer type systems and some who don't even know how to operate a computer...In posts and online forums, if I am discussing a topic like this I always try to come up with my OWN ideas. Not talking points or phrases that I've heard of from Fox News or Think Progress (both of which I read and listen to). How many Republicans do you know blame the church for hindering scientific progress? How many liberals you know admit that there is a powerful green lobby? How many libertarians would embrace a technological overhaul of government? Fat Chance!