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SarahC

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08/26/2014 12:57 AM

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Report Copyright Violation FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. I wonder, just some casual musings (hence no links, but I imagine fellow Ebolatards are familiar with this already):



The recent internet downage - it COULD be routing tables getting too full. That's the official line, BUT could it also be the government testing its control of Ebola information?

If someone doesn't have Facebook/ Livejournal/ Jabber/ Twitter/ Google+, that's a HUGE slowdown in "gossip". Such as 500 infections in a particular Hospital? Meanwhile they can use the MSM to report some other infection, so the few rumours that do get out don't get believed. Imagine 500 independent Facebook users in Mississippi all writing "Major HASMAT operation! There's army trucks everywhere and armed men! A curfew's in place!" versus a news report "A small town in Mississippi today had an outbreak of E.Coli."



West-Point's gone news-dark, and I expect it to stay that way... imagine the unease people will have if they learn an entire town (slum) was shut, and given up on.



Lastly and most importantly:

Remember those two partners of the carers of Mr. Patrick Sawyer, who got Ebola despite their partners being aware they had to look out for symptoms and report in if they had them?



Infectious before symptoms.



This is important for my next point:

In America how do you quarantine a small town? You tell everyone to stay indoors, and put razorwire and roadblocks around the place.



How do you quarantine a BIG town? YOU CAN'T. If you tell people to stay in doors, chances are some will leave and especially if food isn't regularly arriving.



The solution? Quarantine camps. You round everyone in the large town up, and separate those with symptoms from those without. You put them in a large compound where they can be quarantined easily.



Now the problem: None symptomatic people are infectious - the people you are FORCED to be around may have Ebola. A few thousand people in an area of half a football field.

Ebola will spread.



These quarantine camps "for your own protection!" will become just like West-Point... breeding grounds for Ebola, and no one can do anything about it.



Imagine having your bug-out supplies, keeping away from people in your home bunker, then some army guys remove you at gun point - you end up in a camp with no supplies, and surrounded by potential Ebola...



This leads back to the internet again - imagine the internet for that town going dark... and the cell phones. No one will know what happened.



So keep an eye out next year for unusual events - busy doctors surgery's, or busy hospitals... sudden internet blackouts may signal your area is at risk of Ebola and they're checking the cut off switches. Beware military movement's around 3AM. If you see large military convoys around that time of day, leave.



I have a feeling lots of well people will get caught up in infections even when they have prepared.

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08/26/2014 01:33 AM

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Kidding! Another great post op. I just had to be cheeky there. So yeah, this is another thing to put on your radar folks. They can't control 100% but they sure can limit their exposure in terms of bad PR. Also, you won't be able to miss their mobilization, someone will spot it, but likely they will stick to secondary highways and such before they blatantly rattle in to any such end point.



This will take place, there is no question, the only question... When and where. Doesn't exist.....Kidding! Another great post op. I just had to be cheeky there. So yeah, this is another thing to put on your radar folks. They can't control 100% but they sure can limit their exposure in terms of bad PR. Also, you won't be able to miss their mobilization, someone will spot it, but likely they will stick to secondary highways and such before they blatantly rattle in to any such end point.This will take place, there is no question, the only question... When and where.

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08/26/2014 01:39 AM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. West-Point's gone news-dark, and I expect it to stay that way... imagine the unease people will have if they learn an entire town (slum) was shut, and given up on.



Quoting: SarahC



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As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.



Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.



The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.



I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.



West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).



There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.



Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.



Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.



Just thought I would chime in.



. Possible Explanation:As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.Just thought I would chime in.

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08/26/2014 01:41 AM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. West-Point's gone news-dark, and I expect it to stay that way... imagine the unease people will have if they learn an entire town (slum) was shut, and given up on.



Quoting: SarahC



Possible Explanation:



As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.



Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.



The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.



I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.



West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).



There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.



Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.



Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.



Just thought I would chime in.



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Possible Explanation:As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.Just thought I would chime in. Quoting: Banachek



Good stuff, I feel like your info may deserve its own thread just to get people more info, help people piece things together

(aren't you glad this signature isn't rediculously long) Good stuff, I feel like your info may deserve its own thread just to get people more info, help people piece things together

Joe42



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08/26/2014 01:54 AM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. Also thanks OP, you connected a lot of points which seem to mesh, Im gonna hope this strays on the "too far out - tin foil hat" side of the line, because, well, doom is spooky and I'd rather this wasnt the case, but the points you brought up are worth considering

(aren't you glad this signature isn't rediculously long) Also thanks OP, you connected a lot of points which seem to mesh, Im gonna hope this strays on the "too far out - tin foil hat" side of the line, because, well, doom is spooky and I'd rather this wasnt the case, but the points you brought up are worth considering

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08/26/2014 02:21 AM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. OP said, "So keep an eye out next year for unusual events - busy doctors surgery's, or busy hospitals... sudden internet blackouts may signal your area is at risk of Ebola and they're checking the cut off switches. Beware military movement's around 3AM. If you see large military convoys around that time of day, leave."



BINGO!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^



Next year... at R0 current by March-April-May 2016 humanity will entirely be infected and hundreds of millions to a some billions of people will be dying.

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08/26/2014 02:57 AM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. I have a very, very bad feeling that by the time we find out it's hit North America, it will have already been here for 30 days. I mean, even on GLP - I fear even GLP won't have an affirmative "it's here" like we normally have a huge jump on the MSM.



Maybe they saw how quickly we were monitoring and gathering info so they tightened things up. I have a terribly hard time believing there has not been an officially confirmed carrier after all of the "suspected" cases in the US.



It seems like there's some serious suppression of info here in the states.



We're not getting new #'s on infections and deaths either.



Over 2 weeks ago, some kid from Alaska said a CDC worker told him there were 30 suspected cases in Denver alone. Another poster claimed that doctors are saying there's been 150 confirmed cases in the states. I mean, I know people bullshit and all but still.



If we cannot find a method to find out FOR SURE if it's here in the US and spreading, then we're fucked.



If the mainstream news is the first one to announce it because the GOV has a gag order on this for all hospitals and doctors, WE ARE FUCKED.

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely I have a very, very bad feeling that by the time we find out it's hit North America, it will have already been here for 30 days. I mean, even on GLP - I fear even GLP won't have an affirmative "it's here" like we normally have a huge jump on the MSM.Maybe they saw how quickly we were monitoring and gathering info so they tightened things up. I have a terribly hard time believing there has not been an officially confirmed carrier after all of the "suspected" cases in the US.It seems like there's some serious suppression of info here in the states.We're not getting new #'s on infections and deaths either.Over 2 weeks ago, some kid from Alaska said a CDC worker told him there were 30 suspected cases in Denver alone. Another poster claimed that doctors are saying there's been 150 confirmed cases in the states. I mean, I know people bullshit and all but still.If we cannot find a method to find out FOR SURE if it's here in the US and spreading, then we're fucked.If the mainstream news is the first one to announce it because the GOV has a gag order on this for all hospitals and doctors, WE ARE FUCKED.

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08/26/2014 01:01 PM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. Some days ago somebody posted on a thread that military/whatever can put 25 miles of fencing in place per hour.

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It depends on the fencing. If a Toyota Corolla can bust through it, it isn't very effective. It depends on the fencing. If a Toyota Corolla can bust through it, it isn't very effective.

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08/26/2014 01:17 PM



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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. West-Point's gone news-dark, and I expect it to stay that way... imagine the unease people will have if they learn an entire town (slum) was shut, and given up on.



Quoting: SarahC



Possible Explanation:



As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.



Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.



The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.



I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.



West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).



There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.



Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.



Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.



Just thought I would chime in.



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Possible Explanation:As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.Just thought I would chime in. Quoting: Banachek



Good stuff, I feel like your info may deserve its own thread just to get people more info, help people piece things together

Good stuff, I feel like your info may deserve its own thread just to get people more info, help people piece things together Quoting: Joe42



I second this recommendation. Would love to have a responsibly updated Ebola thread to keep tabs on.

Some Shepherds remain hidden from their sheep. I second this recommendation. Would love to have a responsibly updated Ebola thread to keep tabs on.

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08/26/2014 05:11 PM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. Some days ago somebody posted on a thread that military/whatever can put 25 miles of fencing in place per hour.

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It depends on the fencing. If a Toyota Corolla can bust through it, it isn't very effective.

It depends on the fencing. If a Toyota Corolla can bust through it, it isn't very effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19007330



LOL, WUT? I'm sure they'd put some wimpy-ass shit up. Not. LOL, WUT? I'm sure they'd put some wimpy-ass shit up. Not.

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08/26/2014 05:13 PM

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Report Copyright Violation Re: FEMA Ebola camps, Internet down, West-Point gone dark. West-Point's gone news-dark, and I expect it to stay that way... imagine the unease people will have if they learn an entire town (slum) was shut, and given up on.



Quoting: SarahC



Possible Explanation:



As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.



Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.



The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.



I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.



West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).



There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.



Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.



Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.



Just thought I would chime in.



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Possible Explanation:As some of you already know I spent around 1.5 years working in Liberia. While this was 3-4 years back, I still have numerous friends, both Liberians and Westerners, who are in the country.Just this evening I was corresponding with one of these individuals. He specifically stated that the Liberian National Police force, as well as Liberian soldiers, have SHOOT TO KILL orders on anyone violating the nationwide curfew (not only West Point) implemented 7 days ago.The SHOOT TO KILL orders are also in effect for those who attempt cross closed areas.I would assume this also applies to those attempting to sneak through or around the internal immigration checkpoints. These have existed for years as the last 2 civil wars started via overland invasion from Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast. They are found throughout the country.West Point has not been given up on. Aid convoys are sent daily to deliver food and water. Typically this is accomplished by cordoning off an area, unloading, getting transports out, then some type of orderly distribution. Between the people and the supplies are disinfecting stations (water and bleach).There is likely some type of effort to get the sick removed as well, though I have no detail on this.Needless to say, the people in the country are petrified. I can imagine journalists are pretty fearful of travel to the country to cover the story.Further, the WHO has already made several public statements that it is getting extremely hard to even get into the region because of so many cancellations of commercial airline flights. After that, the only options are private aircraft or overland travel. Some airlines are still flying, but few.Just thought I would chime in. Quoting: Banachek



Sounds like a Walt Disney movie. What are they using to shoot to kill, earplugs? Sounds like a Walt Disney movie. What are they using to shoot to kill, earplugs?