Former WWE Superstar CM Punk was recently the guest on Cody and Jennifer Decker’s Swing and Mrs. Podcast. During the show Punk talked about the bully culture in WWE.

“It’s a bully culture. I remember somebody — every time I would ice my elbow, because I constantly had a chronically bad elbow. And I would ice my knees and that was more of a maintenance thing. After a while I did get a surgery on my knee. But they would always laugh and make fun of me.”

“And they would look and point and say, ‘Oh, look, it’s DDP!’ And I’d be like, ‘Why are we making fun of somebody for icing?’ It was always the stupidest stuff. The bullies backstage, I would always think like — is that a weakness, really? And look at billion dollar NBA teams that are mandatory icing guys after games and stuff like that.”

“But like, the macho bulls**t. I’m not a man because I’m icing my knees? Okay, cool.”

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