ZFNetwork Profile Joined October 2012 7 Posts Last Edited: 2012-10-15 22:38:22 #1



What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.



You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website



If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -



TheZFNetwork@gmail.com





About Me

+ Show Spoiler + I am zanderfever, somebody who has been casting Starcraft 2 since the beta as well as streamed since the beta. I am the lead caster/content manager for the team Under Rated Gaming and I have over 1300 Starcraft 2 videos on my youtube, 384,000 livestream.com minutes, over 230,000 twitch views, and have casted for the ZOTAC Cup, ESEA, URTL, TL Opens, TSL 4 Qualifiers, Iron Lady Cups, CSL, varioius showmatches, and more.



Concerns people have brought up in responses



Anybody can just PM an admin and cast

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Let me tell you a little bit about how I started so you have some context. I began making videos in the Starcraft 2 beta for fun. Then I decided I wante to cast. I saw the first tQ Open on the teamliquid sidebar and PMed the leader asking if I could cast the tournament and he said yes. That was in July 2010 and its now late 2012. Thats over 2 years i've spent casting, streaming and more. Now, I "got in" when the timing was right. Nowadays, we have casting superstars that are being brought in to cast everything major. DJ Wheat, Day[9], Apollo, Total Biscuit, Khaldor, and others. Yet, there are many more people who WANT to cast but are not given that chance. I've spent the entirety of the Starcraft 2 release time trying to get myself out there and have done so to a point where I have connections and because of all this energy spent and everything i've gotten from Starcraft 2. With this "top heavy" eSports world admins are picky and can afford to be picky. Somebody who has never casted but has all the desire in the world will not be selected. The industry is brought up by friends, connections, and NETWORKING. The big thing is networking, hence the whole name of this program including the word "network." That is what i'm hoping to bring to people and create a name where everybody knows that they may not see the "best" or most "popular" casters but they are certainly going to see people who love the game and want to share that love.



I am finding ways to exploit people for my own money

+ Show Spoiler + I'm a poor college student who has passed up on more normal jobs in favor of Starcraft and eSports. Streaming is my only income so for that it matters for me. But guess what! I'm DOING A TON OF WORK FOR ALL OF THIS. I'm not doing something where I can lay back and watch my bank account raise money super quickly. No, i'm working incredibly hard, orchestrating all the logistics for everybody in this program, running the casting side of a large team league, am the head content manager for a top team, and am still trying to find ways to work with the community. I'm going to be talking to everybody who is going to be casting as part of the ZFN and I am going to watch everybody cast and give them feedback. I dont know about you, but i'm personally hoping that you realize how much work that really is. Besides, you're seriously overestimating the amount a stream makes if you think i'm going to be raking in the dough.



Casters should get money

+ Show Spoiler + I repeat from above, streams do not make that much money. Also, I did this for literally a year and a half before I saw any money from streaming. If I can make enough to pay the casters I would love to. But I highly doubt that a caster would feel good making 5 cents per cast. There are going to be dozens of people taking part in this program and therefore I can not in good faith promise money and give unrealistic expectations to casters who are not established. I would love to. Absolutely. Casting for free for a year and a half is a really difficult feeling so I understand. If I can get to a point where I can give casters a minimum of $20 per cast I will. Until then, there is nothing I can honestly and fairly offer people at this point.



I would honestly hope that me taking care of everything behind the scenes is payment enough. As that stuff is boring and tedious as all hell sometimes.



Partnered Stream

+ Show Spoiler + Being partnered helps with viewers. It allows people to change the quality of video they are watching and enables front page viewing on twitch.tv's main site. This increases areas that the stream can be seen as well as people with lower bandwith settings being able to watch Hello, TL! I am launching a casting program that is not just for casters who are experienced. I am seeking to find anybody who is willing to put in hours and work in order to become a caster through a "Casting Academy" that is centered around both providing content for viewers as well as cultivating casting personalities.What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website www.zanderfever.TV for your own space to advertise your own stream as well as any other social networking websites you have.If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -TheZFNetwork@gmail.comAbout MeConcerns people have brought up in responsesAnybody can just PM an admin and castI am finding ways to exploit people for my own moneyCasters should get moneyPartnered Stream Visit www.zanderfever.TV for more info on the ZF Network and how to join!

EndofCreation Profile Joined May 2012 85 Posts #2 awesome

sabas123 Profile Blog Joined December 2010 Netherlands 3020 Posts #3 great^_^ hope it will work The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.

zanderfever.TV2 Profile Joined June 2012 United States 5 Posts #4



http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11iffg/casting_academy_a_call_for_anyall_willing_casters/ I have also posted this onto reddit, if anybody would be willing to give it some upvotes that would be great! The more people who see this the better. Thank you, Visit zanderfever.TV for casts, stream, and more!

randoomguy Profile Joined October 2011 Sweden 82 Posts Last Edited: 2012-10-15 14:51:35 #5 i sended,dunno if i wrote to much xD

are u supposed to write about yourself in your first email or do u need to contact us after u have received it and ask us some questions? would be kinda helpful xD FAIRY TAIL WILL ALWAYS WATCH OVER ME

ArchangelJada Profile Joined January 2012 Canada 910 Posts #6 This is seems like cool opportunity, signing up!

S:klogW Profile Joined April 2012 Austria 657 Posts #7 Will email! This looks cool. E = 1.89 eV = 3.03 x 10^(-19) J

ZFNetwork Profile Joined October 2012 7 Posts #8 On October 15 2012 23:49 randoomguy wrote:

i sended,dunno if i wrote to much xD

are u supposed to write about yourself in your first email or do u need to contact us after u have received it and ask us some questions? would be kinda helpful xD



I dont really enjoy being overly formal, especially for something where personality matters as much as it does for casting. So basically anything goes, haha. I dont really enjoy being overly formal, especially for something where personality matters as much as it does for casting. So basically anything goes, haha. Visit www.zanderfever.TV for more info on the ZF Network and how to join!

raser Profile Joined May 2010 Norway 297 Posts #9 really good ide, good luck with it!

Handfromabov Profile Joined April 2011 United States 103 Posts #10 I as a very good friend and follow caster support zander with this. As does all of Under Rated Gaming. I think this is an amazing idea because we need more and more good casters in the scene. I hope I have the privilege of working with the academy casters someday. Good luck all.

-miDnight- Profile Joined September 2010 Taiwan 455 Posts #11 so how does this help caster? http://www.facebook.com/midnightsc Chinese caster from TW (go SEn)

Imbu Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 852 Posts #12 On October 16 2012 02:28 -miDnight- wrote:

so how does this help caster?

It gives them a chance to cast on a larger stage and receive constructive criticism from their peers. Right now, for casters that are just starting up its extremely difficult to find tournaments that will let you cast in order to expand your resume. It gives them a chance to cast on a larger stage and receive constructive criticism from their peers. Right now, for casters that are just starting up its extremely difficult to find tournaments that will let you cast in order to expand your resume. @DreamingBird

ZFNetwork Profile Joined October 2012 7 Posts #13 On October 16 2012 02:31 Imbu wrote:

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On October 16 2012 02:28 -miDnight- wrote:

so how does this help caster?

It gives them a chance to cast on a larger stage and receive constructive criticism from their peers. Right now, for casters that are just starting up its extremely difficult to find tournaments that will let you cast in order to expand your resume. It gives them a chance to cast on a larger stage and receive constructive criticism from their peers. Right now, for casters that are just starting up its extremely difficult to find tournaments that will let you cast in order to expand your resume.



Could not have said it better myself Could not have said it better myself Visit www.zanderfever.TV for more info on the ZF Network and how to join!

feardragon Profile Blog Joined October 2010 United States 923 Posts #14 I am super excited for this! Casting is one of those things that is an art in and of itself with a huge skillcap but not many resources available to see where you need to improve. This is a fantastic opportunity for casters who have tried their hand at casting, enjoy it, but don't know how to improve themselves.



I really hope this takes off. Far too many new casters stay stagnant in their casting instead of treating it like playing starcraft! You have to work at your mechanics, watch your "replays" for mistakes, and refine your strategies! Having people point this stuff out will help make them more self aware and capable of pointing out ateas of improvement in their own casts.



Last note is that I hope there is some focus on all that is casting that's not about the actual casting. So much of work for a caster has nothing to do with talking over a game(production during streaming, video editing, etc.) I feel like this is one of the biggest weaknesses of MOST new and aspiring casters. Garbage Starcraft 2 Commentator

ihatepandas Profile Joined October 2012 2 Posts #15 On October 15 2012 23:19 ZFNetwork wrote:

Hello, TL! I am launching a casting program that is not just for casters who are experienced. I am seeking to find anybody who is willing to put in hours and work in order to become a caster through a "Casting Academy" that is centered around both providing content for viewers as well as cultivating casting personalities.



What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.



You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website



If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -



TheZFNetwork@gmail.com





About Me

+ Show Spoiler + I am zanderfever, somebody who has been casting Starcraft 2 since the beta as well as streamed since the beta. I am the lead caster/content manager for the team Under Rated Gaming and I have over 1300 Starcraft 2 videos on my youtube, 384,000 livestream.com minutes, over 230,000 twitch views, and have casted for the ZOTAC Cup, ESEA, URTL, TL Opens, TSL 4 Qualifiers, Iron Lady Cups, CSL, varioius showmatches, and more. Hello, TL! I am launching a casting program that is not just for casters who are experienced. I am seeking to find anybody who is willing to put in hours and work in order to become a caster through a "Casting Academy" that is centered around both providing content for viewers as well as cultivating casting personalities.What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website www.zanderfever.TV for your own space to advertise your own stream as well as any other social networking websites you have.If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -TheZFNetwork@gmail.comAbout Me



This entire thread feels like a very nicely worded version of exploitation, and I hope others do not fall for it as all I read is, "Come do work for me, so I don't have to"



Are the people working for you getting any of the ad revenue cuts?

inb4 "No, but they get experience as casters!"



Do you -actually- have any top level tournaments for people to jump in on? While I hold mad respect for the weeklys like ZOTAC, Go4SC2, those are events you get into by simply private messaging the admins. ESEA and the Under Rated Team Leagues are probably the only leagues that somehow get less attention than the other low-budget ones floating around (like the Indie or Z33ktv leagues)



You offer to give us experience and critique?

As far as I can tell from reading up on you, you've been casting for what, 1 year? ( so many 'top level' tournaments, you sure do lack viewership



You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website www.zanderfever.TV for your own space to advertise your own stream as well as any other social networking websites you have.

This is the only thing I can't find fault in. I didn't know geocities was still hosting websites, so I wouldn't have access to high quality biography space, but by adding myself to your team, I can't wait to get started! Don't try to hold me back world, while I type up my resume for Zanderflex, er, fever* This entire thread feels like a very nicely worded version of exploitation, and I hope others do not fall for it as all I read is, "Come do work for me, so I don't have to"inb4 + Show Spoiler + While I hold mad respect for the weeklys like ZOTAC, Go4SC2, those are events you get into by simply private messaging the admins. ESEA and the Under Rated Team Leagues are probably the only leagues that somehow get less attention than the other low-budget ones floating around (like the Indie or Z33ktv leagues)As far as I can tell from reading up on you, you've been casting for what, 1 year? ( 2 maybe? ) For taking part in'top level' tournaments, you sure do lack viewership http://www.twitch.tv/zanderfever this either leads me to believe you don't cast quality things, or you yourself are not a quality caster (pardon my negativity, I haven't actually seen you do anything). I only mention this because, if you have a Bad teacher you will end up being a Bad as well.This is the only thing I can't find fault in. I didn't know geocities was still hosting websites, so I wouldn't have access to high quality biography space, but by adding myself to your team, I can't wait to get started! Don't try to hold me back world, while I type up my resume for

y0su Profile Blog Joined September 2011 Finland 7871 Posts #16 On October 16 2012 04:53 ihatepandas wrote:

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On October 15 2012 23:19 ZFNetwork wrote:

Hello, TL! I am launching a casting program that is not just for casters who are experienced. I am seeking to find anybody who is willing to put in hours and work in order to become a caster through a "Casting Academy" that is centered around both providing content for viewers as well as cultivating casting personalities.



What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.



You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website



If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -



TheZFNetwork@gmail.com





About Me

+ Show Spoiler + I am zanderfever, somebody who has been casting Starcraft 2 since the beta as well as streamed since the beta. I am the lead caster/content manager for the team Under Rated Gaming and I have over 1300 Starcraft 2 videos on my youtube, 384,000 livestream.com minutes, over 230,000 twitch views, and have casted for the ZOTAC Cup, ESEA, URTL, TL Opens, TSL 4 Qualifiers, Iron Lady Cups, CSL, varioius showmatches, and more. Hello, TL! I am launching a casting program that is not just for casters who are experienced. I am seeking to find anybody who is willing to put in hours and work in order to become a caster through a "Casting Academy" that is centered around both providing content for viewers as well as cultivating casting personalities.What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website www.zanderfever.TV for your own space to advertise your own stream as well as any other social networking websites you have.If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -TheZFNetwork@gmail.comAbout Me



This entire thread feels like a very nicely worded version of exploitation, and I hope others do not fall for it as all I read is, "Come do work for me, so I don't have to"



Are the people working for you getting any of the ad revenue cuts?

inb4 "No, but they get experience as casters!"



Do you -actually- have any top level tournaments for people to jump in on? While I hold mad respect for the weeklys like ZOTAC, Go4SC2, those are events you get into by simply private messaging the admins. ESEA and the Under Rated Team Leagues are probably the only leagues that somehow get less attention than the other low-budget ones floating around (like the Indie or Z33ktv leagues)



You offer to give us experience and critique?

As far as I can tell from reading up on you, you've been casting for what, 1 year? ( so many 'top level' tournaments, you sure do lack viewership



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You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website www.zanderfever.TV for your own space to advertise your own stream as well as any other social networking websites you have.

This is the only thing I can't find fault in. I didn't know geocities was still hosting websites, so I wouldn't have access to high quality biography space, but by adding myself to your team, I can't wait to get started! Don't try to hold me back world, while I type up my resume for Zanderflex, er, fever* This entire thread feels like a very nicely worded version of exploitation, and I hope others do not fall for it as all I read is, "Come do work for me, so I don't have to"inb4 + Show Spoiler + While I hold mad respect for the weeklys like ZOTAC, Go4SC2, those are events you get into by simply private messaging the admins. ESEA and the Under Rated Team Leagues are probably the only leagues that somehow get less attention than the other low-budget ones floating around (like the Indie or Z33ktv leagues)As far as I can tell from reading up on you, you've been casting for what, 1 year? ( 2 maybe? ) For taking part in'top level' tournaments, you sure do lack viewership http://www.twitch.tv/zanderfever this either leads me to believe you don't cast quality things, or you yourself are not a quality caster (pardon my negativity, I haven't actually seen you do anything). I only mention this because, if you have a Bad teacher you will end up being a Bad as well.This is the only thing I can't find fault in. I didn't know geocities was still hosting websites, so I wouldn't have access to high quality biography space, but by adding myself to your team, I can't wait to get started! Don't try to hold me back world, while I type up my resume for



I might just be speaking from my own experience.... Most casters that are starting out have a hard time finding anything to cast. You can't just email admins of weekly tournaments and suddenly cast like you suggest (I spent a lot of time trying that). Even if/when you get permission to cast it's near impossible to find/get into games. If ZFN can provide these options to people that are looking to cast it would actually help them a lot.



No one making decent revenue is going to need this so why would they expect revenue while getting an opportunity to do something they can't do on their own.



Last, I can't think of anything better for someone that wants to seriously cast than getting feedback and practice.

I might just be speaking from my own experience.... Most casters that are starting out have a hard time finding anything to cast. You can't just email admins of weekly tournaments and suddenly cast like you suggest (I spent a lot of time trying that). Even if/when you get permission to cast it's near impossible to find/get into games. If ZFN can provide these options to people that are looking to cast it would actually help them a lot.No one making decent revenue is going to need this so why would they expect revenue while getting an opportunity to do something they can't do on their own.Last, I can't think of anything better for someone that wants to seriously cast than getting feedback and practice.

Vorosh Profile Joined December 2009 United States 24 Posts #17 On October 16 2012 04:53 ihatepandas wrote:

Are the people working for you getting any of the ad revenue cuts?

inb4 "No, but they get experience as casters!"

inb4 + Show Spoiler +



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I interpreted "I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv" as an offer to get one's personal stream partnered on twitch.tv, in the same way that a player joining certain teams will get their channel instantly partnered. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I interpreted "I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv" as an offer to get one's personal stream partnered on twitch.tv, in the same way that a player joining certain teams will get their channel instantly partnered.

feardragon Profile Blog Joined October 2010 United States 923 Posts #18 On October 16 2012 04:53 ihatepandas wrote:

stuff

I think you're looking at this quite the wrong way. As said above, casters will get an opportunity to have a partnership on twitch(which is not something easy to get for aspiring casters), as well as experience casting for these cups and tournaments that people have heard of such as . No, they're not MLG, GSL, IPL, Dreamhack, etc. Realize that a LOT of community casters work for free so it's not surprising that they wouldn't be directly cut into revenue.



Think of this more like an internship if you have to think of it differently. In a lot of jobs, internships can be unpaid and your main benefit is experience for your future job applications. You do it as an opportunity to learn a whole lot about your craft. I don't know about you but I wouldn't say internships are exploiting people.



I'm not going to speak for you since I obviously don't know you at all but your comments do give me the vibe that you aren't an aspiring caster and haven't really heavily delved into that world. It's not easy to just become a caster for big tournament without having a nice casting resume, they same way it's not easy to get a job at Microsoft as a developer if you didn't go to school or have prior job experience. Casting replays you get is definitely where people should start but the transition to live events can be difficult unless you are very pro-active and either create your own events to cast and promote yourself very well, or you're well connected and can find some gigs at newer events. If you can do those, more power to you. But neither of those paths are easy and both are highly time consuming so it's not an option available for everyone.



The strength of this will be opportunity. Casting is in a similar boat to playing in eSports in that there are a lot of people trying to do it and only a small fraction of them can receive decent compensation for it. So understand that not offering direct pay for casting is not a strange thing. Having the potential for a twitch partnership on the other hand is a huge thing so I guess you could consider it the "intern stipend." I think you're looking at this quite the wrong way. As said above, casters will get an opportunity to have a partnership on twitch(which is not something easy to get for aspiring casters), as well as experience casting for these cups and tournaments thatsuch as . No, they're not MLG, GSL, IPL, Dreamhack, etc. Realize that a LOT of community casters work for free so it's not surprising that they wouldn't be directly cut into revenue.Think of this more like an internship if you have to think of it differently. In a lot of jobs, internships can be unpaid and your main benefit is experience for your future job applications. You do it as an opportunity to learn a whole lot about your craft. I don't know about you but I wouldn't say internships are exploiting people.I'm not going to speak for you since I obviously don't know you at all but your comments do give me the vibe that you aren't an aspiring caster and haven't really heavily delved into that world. It's not easy to just become a caster for big tournament without having a nice casting resume, they same way it's not easy to get a job at Microsoft as a developer if you didn't go to school or have prior job experience. Casting replays you get iswhere people should start but the transition to live events can be difficult unless you are very pro-active and either create your own events to cast and promote yourself very well, or you're well connected and can find some gigs at newer events. If you can do those, more power to you. But neither of those paths are easy and both are highly time consuming so it's not an option available for everyone.The strength of this will be opportunity. Casting is in a similar boat to playing in eSports in that there are a lot of people trying to do it and only a small fraction of them can receive decent compensation for it. So understand that not offering direct pay for casting is not a strange thing. Having the potential for a twitch partnership on the other hand is a huge thing so I guess you could consider it the "intern stipend." Garbage Starcraft 2 Commentator

-Kyo- Profile Blog Joined August 2010 Japan 1900 Posts Last Edited: 2012-10-15 21:51:07 #19 On October 16 2012 04:53 ihatepandas wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 15 2012 23:19 ZFNetwork wrote:

Hello, TL! I am launching a casting program that is not just for casters who are experienced. I am seeking to find anybody who is willing to put in hours and work in order to become a caster through a "Casting Academy" that is centered around both providing content for viewers as well as cultivating casting personalities.



What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.



You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website



If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -



TheZFNetwork@gmail.com





About Me

+ Show Spoiler + I am zanderfever, somebody who has been casting Starcraft 2 since the beta as well as streamed since the beta. I am the lead caster/content manager for the team Under Rated Gaming and I have over 1300 Starcraft 2 videos on my youtube, 384,000 livestream.com minutes, over 230,000 twitch views, and have casted for the ZOTAC Cup, ESEA, URTL, TL Opens, TSL 4 Qualifiers, Iron Lady Cups, CSL, varioius showmatches, and more. Hello, TL! I am launching a casting program that is not just for casters who are experienced. I am seeking to find anybody who is willing to put in hours and work in order to become a caster through a "Casting Academy" that is centered around both providing content for viewers as well as cultivating casting personalities.What I offer for those of you who are interested is simple. Access to casting top level tournaments such as the ZOTAC Cups, Go4SC2 Cups, ESEA Team League, The Under Rated Team League, and more. If you are willing to put in the hours I will provide you with access to a partnered stream on twitch.tv as well as graphics and everything you need for a successful cast. You will be critiqued and encouraged to become better as time goes on and more casts are completed.You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website www.zanderfever.TV for your own space to advertise your own stream as well as any other social networking websites you have.If you are interested in taking part in this endeavor please send me an email at -TheZFNetwork@gmail.comAbout Me



This entire thread feels like a very nicely worded version of exploitation, and I hope others do not fall for it as all I read is, "Come do work for me, so I don't have to"



Are the people working for you getting any of the ad revenue cuts?

inb4 "No, but they get experience as casters!"



Do you -actually- have any top level tournaments for people to jump in on? While I hold mad respect for the weeklys like ZOTAC, Go4SC2, those are events you get into by simply private messaging the admins. ESEA and the Under Rated Team Leagues are probably the only leagues that somehow get less attention than the other low-budget ones floating around (like the Indie or Z33ktv leagues)



You offer to give us experience and critique?

As far as I can tell from reading up on you, you've been casting for what, 1 year? ( so many 'top level' tournaments, you sure do lack viewership



Show nested quote +

You will also be able to have a biography about yourself and a small section on my website www.zanderfever.TV for your own space to advertise your own stream as well as any other social networking websites you have.

This is the only thing I can't find fault in. I didn't know geocities was still hosting websites, so I wouldn't have access to high quality biography space, but by adding myself to your team, I can't wait to get started! Don't try to hold me back world, while I type up my resume for Zanderflex, er, fever* This entire thread feels like a very nicely worded version of exploitation, and I hope others do not fall for it as all I read is, "Come do work for me, so I don't have to"inb4 + Show Spoiler + While I hold mad respect for the weeklys like ZOTAC, Go4SC2, those are events you get into by simply private messaging the admins. ESEA and the Under Rated Team Leagues are probably the only leagues that somehow get less attention than the other low-budget ones floating around (like the Indie or Z33ktv leagues)As far as I can tell from reading up on you, you've been casting for what, 1 year? ( 2 maybe? ) For taking part in'top level' tournaments, you sure do lack viewership http://www.twitch.tv/zanderfever this either leads me to believe you don't cast quality things, or you yourself are not a quality caster (pardon my negativity, I haven't actually seen you do anything). I only mention this because, if you have a Bad teacher you will end up being a Bad as well.This is the only thing I can't find fault in. I didn't know geocities was still hosting websites, so I wouldn't have access to high quality biography space, but by adding myself to your team, I can't wait to get started! Don't try to hold me back world, while I type up my resume for



I mean, if you're a player on a brand new team but have no way to market yourself you definitely wouldn't want to get involved with something that gives you free marketing as a player with no obligations other than to broadcast on their network while being able to plug your own stuff 100% of the time right? /sarcasm



Are you kidding? Lol. He is offering people a chance to work on a partnered stream with content that will be up almost all day once people start working together. This means sure, some casters may not get the greatest feedback, but others will be able to constantly market themselves in a way they otherwise wouldn't have the means themselves to do. Sounds like a really good deal for some random caster looking to show others he is in fact good.



P.S: 200k views on twitch is quite good for casting weekly cups. ZF obviously doesn't have the backing/ability to do the sort of things people like SamSC2 have been doing, but he's doing more than a great job with what he has. I mean, if you're a player on a brand new team but have no way to market yourself you definitely wouldn't want to get involved with something that gives you free marketing as a player with no obligations other than to broadcast on their network while being able to plug your own stuff 100% of the time right? /sarcasmAre you kidding? Lol. He is offering people a chance to work on a partnered stream with content that will be up almost all day once people start working together. This means sure, some casters may not get the greatest feedback, but others will be able to constantly market themselves in a way they otherwise wouldn't have the means themselves to do. Sounds like a really good deal for some random caster looking to show others he is in fact good.P.S: 200k views on twitch is quite good for casting weekly cups. ZF obviously doesn't have the backing/ability to do the sort of things people like SamSC2 have been doing, but he's doing more than a great job with what he has. Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/

QQKachoo Profile Blog Joined December 2011 United States 168 Posts #20 I also sent an email in. I would like to thank you for this opportunity. With proper coaching and feedback I hope that I can become a great caster @QKachoo

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