CynicalDeath Profile Joined January 2012 Italy 2489 Posts Last Edited: 2017-08-21 14:30:47 #1



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Registration to both opens today, European qualifiers will run in October (40k main event), American ones in December (30k main event). ...after the local qualifiers for China Regional Qualifier ended, here are the details for European and American local qualifiers to respective Regional Main Qualifier.Registration to both opens today, European qualifiers will run in October (40k main event), American ones in December (30k main event). Liquipedia SC2 LP Staff - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death

Kas Profile Joined January 2011 Ukraine 20 Posts #2 Amazing tournament , hope to be there second time

Thomasmarkle Profile Joined June 2011 United States 85 Posts #3 Am I crazy or is there no Finland on the Europe page?

Kashim Profile Joined December 2013 Poland 700 Posts #4 On August 21 2017 23:35 Thomasmarkle wrote:

Am I crazy or is there no Finland on the Europe page?



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aQuaSC Profile Joined August 2011 717 Posts #5 Well with this design patch coming... I think the qualifiers will be played on the live game and the event will be held post-patch?

Musicus Profile Joined August 2011 Germany 23387 Posts Last Edited: 2017-08-21 15:08:31 #6 Ukraine and Russia get two spots each, all of Scandinavia gets one spot, lmao.



Other than that it's really cool to see WESG continuing with sc2.



Edit: Oh at least Sweden counts as a seperate country, so it's between Snute and Serral. Maru and Serral are probably top 5.

Fango Profile Joined July 2016 United Kingdom 7762 Posts #7 On August 21 2017 23:40 aQuaSC wrote:

Well with this design patch coming... I think the qualifiers will be played on the live game and the event will be held post-patch?



Yup. Exactly same as last year.



KR qualifiers are gonna be a bloodbath

Yup. Exactly same as last year.KR qualifiers are gonna be a bloodbath Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs

GoloSC2 Profile Joined August 2014 580 Posts #8 WIN, LOSS AND ABNORMAL SITUATIONS



5.1. Player is declared as a winner after his/her opponent types “gg” or has all of his/her buildings destroyed;



this one is interesting



also problematic if a player starts the game by wishing their opponent a good game this one is interestingalso problematic if a player starts the game by wishing their opponent a good game "Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya

Alex007 Profile Joined December 2010 Ukraine 205 Posts Last Edited: 2017-08-21 16:00:17 #9 Ukraine and Russia get tw spots each, all of Scandinavia gets one spot, lmao.

We know that's rough for Snute, Serral and especially other players in the region, but a lot of factors have to be considered when splitting countries into regions and giving the spots.

Unfortunately we had only three participants in Norwegian SC2 qualifier last year as well as only five Finnish players in Northern European one. Similarly, numbers were around the lowest in other titles.

We know that's rough for Snute, Serral and especially other players in the region, but a lot of factors have to be considered when splitting countries into regions and giving the spots.Unfortunately we had only three participants in Norwegian SC2 qualifier last year as well as only five Finnish players in Northern European one. Similarly, numbers were around the lowest in other titles. Russian community leader, caster and project manager working for StarLadder

aQuaSC Profile Joined August 2011 717 Posts #10 On August 21 2017 23:56 GoloSC2 wrote:

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WIN, LOSS AND ABNORMAL SITUATIONS



5.1. Player is declared as a winner after his/her opponent types “gg” or has all of his/her buildings destroyed;



this one is interesting



also problematic if a player starts the game by wishing their opponent a good game this one is interestingalso problematic if a player starts the game by wishing their opponent a good game

I always thought these "gg" at the beginning of a game were to imitate Korean poor English skills, everyone knows what gg means, why type it in the beginning I always thought these "gg" at the beginning of a game were to imitate Korean poor English skills, everyone knows what gg means, why type it in the beginning

Musicus Profile Joined August 2011 Germany 23387 Posts Last Edited: 2017-08-21 15:28:10 #11 On August 22 2017 00:04 Alex007 wrote:

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Ukraine and Russia get tw spots each, all of Scandinavia gets one spot, lmao.

We know that's rough for Snute, Serral and especially other players in the region, but a lot of factors have to be considered when splitting countries into regions and giving the spots.

Unfortunately we had only

We know that's rough for Snute, Serral and especially other players in the region, but a lot of factors have to be considered when splitting countries into regions and giving the spots.Unfortunately we had only three participants in Norwegian SC2 qualifier last year as well as only five Finnish players in Northern European one. Similarly, numbers were around the lowest in other titles.

I can understand that amateurs won't sign up in a qualifier with only 1 spot, if Snute is playing in it. Everybody knows Snute will get the spot, only if there was a second spot would it make sense for weaker players to try.



But now there is 1 spot for Snute and Serral combined which means even out of those two only one player will make it. If you want more signups for that region, you would now have to offer at least 3 spots. One for Serral, one for Snute and one for the amateurs to fight for.



On the other hand, of course there will be more signups in Ukraine and Russia, since apart from Bly there are no real favourites for those spots and amateur players have a real shot and qualifying.



So I don't think the number of signups of last year is a fair way to distribute spots, instead you could look at the number of players with WCS points per country or region.



Just some feedback for next year maybe . I can understand that amateurs won't sign up in a qualifier with only 1 spot, if Snute is playing in it. Everybody knows Snute will get the spot, only if there was a second spot would it make sense for weaker players to try.But now there is 1 spot for Snute and Serral combined which means even out of those two only one player will make it. If you want more signups for that region, you would now have to offer at least 3 spots. One for Serral, one for Snute and one for the amateurs to fight for.On the other hand, of course there will be more signups in Ukraine and Russia, since apart from Bly there are no real favourites for those spots and amateur players have a real shot and qualifying.So I don't think the number of signups of last year is a fair way to distribute spots, instead you could look at the number of players with WCS points per country or region.Just some feedback for next year maybe Maru and Serral are probably top 5.

207aicila Profile Joined January 2015 1236 Posts #12 Will there be a similarly crazy prize pool this time around as well? mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''

Rescawen Profile Joined April 2010 Finland 1025 Posts #13 On August 22 2017 00:04 Alex007 wrote:

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Ukraine and Russia get tw spots each, all of Scandinavia gets one spot, lmao.

We know that's rough for Snute, Serral and especially other players in the region, but a lot of factors have to be considered when splitting countries into regions and giving the spots.

Unfortunately we had only

We know that's rough for Snute, Serral and especially other players in the region, but a lot of factors have to be considered when splitting countries into regions and giving the spots.Unfortunately we had only three participants in Norwegian SC2 qualifier last year as well as only five Finnish players in Northern European one. Similarly, numbers were around the lowest in other titles.





maybe the reason behind this is lower level players do not want to go through the hassle of registration when they know that their chances versus snute/serral respectively are basically none. maybe the reason behind this is lower level players do not want to go through the hassle of registration when they know that their chances versus snute/serral respectively are basically none.

Alex007 Profile Joined December 2010 Ukraine 205 Posts Last Edited: 2017-08-21 16:13:46 #14 On the other hand, of course there will be more signups in Ukraine and Russia, since apart from Bly there are no real favourites for those spots and amateur players have a real shot and qualifying.

Do you really think that lack of amateur players in Scandinavian region is explained by the fact that Snute and whoever else in Finland was a clear favorite last year while there were no clear favorites in Ukraine or Russia? Sorry, I'm not really sure about that reasoning. It's OK if you're unfamiliar with Ukrainian/Russian scene but every experienced amateur player from these countires is pretty much aware of the best 3-4 players who are really able to advance.

Do you really think that lack of amateur players in Scandinavian region is explained by the fact that Snute and whoever else in Finland was a clear favorite last year while there were no clear favorites in Ukraine or Russia? Sorry, I'm not really sure about that reasoning. It's OK if you're unfamiliar with Ukrainian/Russian scene but every experienced amateur player from these countires is pretty much aware of the best 3-4 players who are really able to advance. So I don't think the number of signups of last year is a fair way to distribute spots, instead you could look at the number of players with WCS points per country or region.

The number of signups wasn't the only factor, just the one which could be described briefly.

WCS and WESG are not connected in any ways.

The number of signups wasn't the only factor, just the one which could be described briefly.WCS and WESG are not connected in any ways. maybe the reason behind this is lower level players do not want to go through the hassle of registration when they know that their chances versus snute/serral respectively are basically none.

We know that the registration process is not very simple, but we cannot do anything with that. Sending the scan of the passport is still required due to the nature of the tournament. I'm sorry about that. We know that the registration process is not very simple, but we cannot do anything with that. Sending the scan of the passport is still required due to the nature of the tournament. I'm sorry about that. Russian community leader, caster and project manager working for StarLadder

Musicus Profile Joined August 2011 Germany 23387 Posts Last Edited: 2017-08-21 16:45:04 #15 On August 22 2017 01:09 Alex007 wrote:



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So I don't think the number of signups of last year is a fair way to distribute spots, instead you could look at the number of players with WCS points per country or region.

The number of signups wasn't the only factor, just the one which could be described briefly.

WCS and WESG are not connected in any ways. The number of signups wasn't the only factor, just the one which could be described briefly.WCS and WESG are not connected in any ways.



I know that WCS and WESG are not connected, I was just trying to say that stronger regions should get more spots than weaker regions.



As a good way to determine stronger regions I suggested WCS points, but you can also use Aligulac or something else. I know that WCS and WESG are not connected, I was just trying to say that stronger regions should get more spots than weaker regions.As a good way to determine stronger regions I suggested WCS points, but you can also use Aligulac or something else. Maru and Serral are probably top 5.

CynicalDeath Profile Joined January 2012 Italy 2489 Posts #16 On August 22 2017 00:33 207aicila wrote:

Will there be a similarly crazy prize pool this time around as well?

...only for the Main Qualifiers prize pools are 30k and 40k so... ...only for the Main Qualifiers prize pools are 30k and 40k so... Liquipedia SC2 LP Staff - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death

207aicila Profile Joined January 2015 1236 Posts #17 On August 22 2017 02:01 CynicalDeath wrote:

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On August 22 2017 00:33 207aicila wrote:

Will there be a similarly crazy prize pool this time around as well?

...only for the Main Qualifiers prize pools are 30k and 40k so... ...only for the Main Qualifiers prize pools are 30k and 40k so...



Ez 12k for Stephano in the Middle East & Africa qualifier again? :D Ez 12k for Stephano in the Middle East & Africa qualifier again? :D mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''

bulya Profile Joined February 2016 Israel 384 Posts #18 w00t, the Scandinavian region has only 1 spot while Russia and Ukraine have 2 spots each.



It means that Snute and Serral will be competing for a single spot, while 2 Russian guys who are worse then Snute and Serral (and many other EU players in the scene) will be there!

Mizenhauer Profile Blog Joined February 2015 United States 1058 Posts #19 On August 22 2017 02:37 bulya wrote:

w00t, the Scandinavian region has only 1 spot while Russia and Ukraine have 2 spots each.



It means that Snute and Serral will be competing for a single spot, while 2 Russian guys who are worse then Snute and Serral (and many other EU players in the scene) will be there!



If things go as they did last year, only two Koreans will qualify while 10-20 Koreans who would have been the 3rd best player in the tournament don't get to go. This is an overarching problem when trying to divide qualifiers this way. If things go as they did last year, only two Koreans will qualify while 10-20 Koreans who would have been the 3rd best player in the tournament don't get to go. This is an overarching problem when trying to divide qualifiers this way. ┗|∵|┓

CynicalDeath Profile Joined January 2012 Italy 2489 Posts #20 On August 22 2017 02:10 207aicila wrote:

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On August 22 2017 02:01 CynicalDeath wrote:

On August 22 2017 00:33 207aicila wrote:

Will there be a similarly crazy prize pool this time around as well?

...only for the Main Qualifiers prize pools are 30k and 40k so... ...only for the Main Qualifiers prize pools are 30k and 40k so...



Ez 12k for Stephano in the Middle East & Africa qualifier again? :D Ez 12k for Stephano in the Middle East & Africa qualifier again? :D

...no info yet about Middle East & Africa qualifier (even if Turkey is now included in one of the European local qualifiers) but I think the real matter here is if Stephano will be able to stay awake during the breaks in the Finals... ...no info yet about Middle East & Africa qualifier (even if Turkey is now included in one of the European local qualifiers) but I think the real matter here is if Stephano will be able to stay awake during the breaks in the Finals... Liquipedia SC2 LP Staff - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death

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