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The Vikings had 54 virtual three-and-outs, which was 4th worst in the league this year. Virtual three-and-out basically meaning: three offensive plays with no first down, and the drive ending in a punt, FG attempt, fumble, INT, downs, safety, etc. Only the Jets (68), Cardinals (62), and Bills (57) had more. Seattle tied us with 54.



The Saints had the fewest in the league at 27, followed by the Rams 28, and Chiefs 29. Oddly enough the Bucs were 4th best at 30. The Rams had the fewest conventional three-and-outs at 19 (three plays and a punt).



The 54 three-and-outs meant the Vikings went three-and-out on 28.7% of their drives, which was 5th worst. Stefanski went three-and-out on 13 of 35 drives, or 37.1%, which would be worst in the league. The Jets were at 34.2% for the season.



And the Vikings weren't even close to being the worst team in recent memory, which surprised me. That title belongs to the 2005 49ers, spearheaded by none other than the QB whisperer himself, Mike McCarthy (who was their OC at the time), had an astounding 89 three-and-outs, or 45.2% of their drives. 77 of those were the conventional three plays and a punt. The Packers hired him as their HC the following year, so go figure.



The Vikings' worst three-and-out season since 2004 came in 2006, where they had 64 (32.5%), which was tied for 36th worst out of 480 teams during that time. So the 2018 Vikings were only the 2nd worst Vikings team, and only the 146th worst overall. The 2008 Colts were the best with only 22 three-and-outs. The 2004 Vikings only had 28 (16.7%), and last year we finished with 46 (24.9%). The 2009 Vikings were the 4th worst Vikings team with 52 (27.1%). The 2015 Vikings were the 2nd best Vikings team with only 29 three-and-outs (16.6%). Technically the best percentage wise. The good news is: the 2018 Vikings weren't the worst three-and-out team in recent memory. The bad news is: Stefanski was much worse than Flipper.The Vikings had 54 virtual three-and-outs, which was 4th worst in the league this year. Virtual three-and-out basically meaning: three offensive plays with no first down, and the drive ending in a punt, FG attempt, fumble, INT, downs, safety, etc. Only the Jets (68), Cardinals (62), and Bills (57) had more. Seattle tied us with 54.The Saints had the fewest in the league at 27, followed by the Rams 28, and Chiefs 29. Oddly enough the Bucs were 4th best at 30. The Rams had the fewest conventional three-and-outs at 19 (three plays and a punt).The 54 three-and-outs meant the Vikings went three-and-out on 28.7% of their drives, which was 5th worst. Stefanski went three-and-out on 13 of 35 drives, or 37.1%, which would be worst in the league. The Jets were at 34.2% for the season.And the Vikings weren't even close to being the worst team in recent memory, which surprised me. That title belongs to the 2005 49ers, spearheaded by none other than the QB whisperer himself, Mike McCarthy (who was their OC at the time), had an astounding 89 three-and-outs, or 45.2% of their drives. 77 of those were the conventional three plays and a punt. The Packers hired him as their HC the following year, so go figure.The Vikings' worst three-and-out season since 2004 came in 2006, where they had 64 (32.5%), which was tied for 36th worst out of 480 teams during that time. So the 2018 Vikings were only the 2nd worst Vikings team, and only the 146th worst overall. The 2008 Colts were the best with only 22 three-and-outs. The 2004 Vikings only had 28 (16.7%), and last year we finished with 46 (24.9%). The 2009 Vikings were the 4th worst Vikings team with 52 (27.1%). The 2015 Vikings were the 2nd best Vikings team with only 29 three-and-outs (16.6%). Technically the best percentage wise.

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Member Back to Top Post by Reignman on Purple Pain said: Reignman said: And the Vikings weren't even close to being the worst team in recent memory, which surprised me. That title belongs to the 2005 49ers, spearheaded by none other than the QB whisperer himself, Mike McCarthy (who was their OC at the time), had an astounding 89 3-n-outs, or 45.2% of their drives. 77 of those were the conventional 3 plays and a punt. The Packers hired him as their HC the following year, so go figure.



How does a guy get promoted after that? What did the other 54.8% of drives look like? Wow.How does a guy get promoted after? What did the other 54.8% of drives look like?

They scored the 3rd fewest points (14.9 ppg), had the fewest total yards by 400 yards, 1898 passing yards (118.6/g), 8 passing TD's, 21 INT's, dead last in total 1st downs by 42, but they had the 17th best rushing total and averaged 3.9 ypc. I mean what can you do when you had the first pick in the draft and took Alex Smith and you're the QB whisperer? You get him to throw 1 TD and 11 INT's in 7 starts in the 2nd half of the season when everything has gone to hell, that's what you do. Good thing he turned that scrub Aaron around. No not Brooks from the Saints, he failed him too, I mean what's his face. The nobody in Green Bay? I want to say Roberts, but that doesn't sound right. Rogers! That's it. That 7th round reach from the small school in California. It's a miracle what big Mike did with that kid. They scored the 3rd fewest points (14.9 ppg), had the fewest total yards by 400 yards, 1898 passing yards (118.6/g), 8 passing TD's, 21 INT's, dead last in total 1st downs by 42, but they had the 17th best rushing total and averaged 3.9 ypc. I mean what can you do when you had the first pick in the draft and took Alex Smith and you're the QB whisperer? You get him to throw 1 TD and 11 INT's in 7 starts in the 2nd half of the season when everything has gone to hell, that's what you do. Good thing he turned that scrub Aaron around. No not Brooks from the Saints, he failed him too, I mean what's his face. The nobody in Green Bay? I want to say Roberts, but that doesn't sound right. Rogers! That's it. That 7th round reach from the small school in California. It's a miracle what big Mike did with that kid.

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To put that drive into perspective we need to talk about 41-donut for a second! We're over that one by now aren't we? Thought so. The Giants possessed the ball for the final 12:53 of that game in probably the most agonizing grind it drive I've ever seen. On 19 plays the Giants only gained 38 yards, which nearly consumed the entire 4th quarter. They picked up an additional 15 yards in penalties, and converted a total of 5 first downs. Joe Montgomery had 14 carries for 42 yards on that drive, and think every single one of them was exactly 3 yards. Felt like it. The Giants converted 6 of 8 3rd downs. The 2 they failed on, they picked up a 4th down on one, and on the other they were taking a knee. Good times! We did sack Jason Garrett (yep that one), on a 3rd and 9 earlier in the drive, but Bryce Paup drew a 15 yard face mask on the play, cuz Vikings!!! Yep when you lose 41-donut you get to find out who the other teams backup QB is.



And now that I've spoiled dinner, on with epic drive stats. The Vikings longest drive in terms of time came in 2008, week 3 vs Carolina. A 19 play, 90 yard drive that took 11:34 off the clock at the end of the 3rd/beginning of the 4th quarter. And you guessed it, we punted ... j/k, no we settled for a FG to put us up 20-10, which ended up being the final.



The longest drive against the Vikings came in a preseason game vs Cincinnati in 2016. Longest in terms of time and plays. A 22 play, 89 yard drive that took 12:24 off the clock. 3rd longest drive in the NFL overall in terms of time and yards. Unfortunately for the Bungles it was all for not as it ended on downs at the Vikings 3 yard line early in the 2nd quarter. Vikings won 17-16. If that wasn't crazy enough, the Vikings answered that drive with a 10 play, 103 yard drive, yes you heard that correctly, 103 yard (there were some penalties) TD drive that took 6:39 off the clock. Insult to injury for the Bungles. No shutout ruining INT's by Theodore in that one. In a twist of irony however, the next time he'd see the field would be 16 months later against the same Bungles.



No kneed to relive those painful memories however, so on with the show .... The longest drive since 2004 in terms of # of plays came in week 5 in 2007 by the Saints when they had a 24 play 68 yard drive that took 10:22 off the clock vs Carolina. It ended in a blocked FG in the 4th quarter xD. Saints would go on to miss another FG in the 4th that would have given them the lead with 2:14 to go. Carolina answered by driving down and kicking a buzzer beater of their own to win 16-13. Lucky for us, those Saints got those kicker problems figured out by 2009.



The Vikings longest play drive, was the same 19 play drive mentioned earlier against Carolina. They had an 18 play drive against Detroit in 2011 that suspiciously ended in a fumble at the Lions 1 yard line on the final play of the game .... because Joe Webb nearly had his head twisted off by a Lions defender and it wasn't called. Vikings lost 34-28. Amazing comeback by Webb in that game after Ponder gave up 4 defensive TD's or something like that in the 1st half before getting benched. It would never occur to Frazier to go to the backup QB again in any of Ponders future struggles. If only he had an example of how well that could work out. Nah, seems like a surprise you'd want to save for the playoffs.



The longest drive in terms of yards was by the Chargers earlier this year vs Oakland. In week 5 they had an 8 play 121 yard drive that ended in a TD. They began at their own 4 and accumulated 25 yards worth of penalties along the way. Goes in the books as a 96 yard drive, but they racked up 121 yards of offense, which was the most on a single drive.



The Vikings had a 5 play 106 yard TD drive in a preseason game at Atlanta in 2004. Their longest regular season drive was pulled off by TJack in 2008 at Arizona. His 4 TD game. A 12 play 105 yard TD drive that ate 7:06 off the clock. Vikings won 35-14.



Probably the oddest drive I saw came from the Steelers, or Browns, depending on how you want to look at it. The Steelers had a 6 play 3 yard drive that started at their own 13 yard line and ended with a FG at the Browns 7 yard line lol. Yeah you do the math on that one. The Browns committed back to back 39 and 38 yard DPI's. For those of you keeping score at home, that was essentially an 80 yard 3 n out as the only 2 first downs the Steelers picked up were via penalty.



The offense that racked up the most penalty yards was surprisingly not the Vikings, although it was close. The 49ers racked up 44 penalty yards on a drive in a preseason game against the Bears in 2004. The Vikings tied for 2nd when they racked up 40 penalty yards on a drive in a preseason game against the 49ers in 2013. A 12 play 83 yard drive that ended in a punt lol. Vikings! We lost 34-13. The Browns had a 40 penalty yard drive in a regular season game and still managed to kick a FG.



And I know you're wondering who picked up the most first downs on a drive. Well I got you covered on that too. 9 teams picked up 9 first downs on a single drive since 2004. And I know mathematically that seems like the maximum you could pick up on a drive, but you can technically pick up an infinite number of first downs on a drive if you include penalties. Like DPI on the goal line. In fact you can pick up 2 first downs on a single play if you pick up a first down and draw a personal foul. Also offensive TD's count as first downs if you didn't know.

First downs are compiled only from plays originating from the line of scrimmage. A first down shall be credited on each touchdown resulting from rushes or forward passes, regardless of the distance covered.

The last team to pick up 9 first downs on a drive was the Redskins earlier this year against the Ravens in the preseason. The Saints were the last team to do it in a regular season game, at Carolina in 2015.



The Ravens are the only team to pick up 9 first downs on a drive without the aid of a penalty. On a 16 play 102 yard opening TD drive against Houston in 2011 that started from their own 3. That was one hell of a script Harbaugh.



The fastest drive of 15 plays or mare was pulled off by the Texans in 2014. 16 plays in 1:55. Final drive of the game. It ended on downs and them losing 22-13. A blistering 7.19 seconds per play. The Vikings pulled of a 16 play 82 yard drive against Washington in 2012 in 2:21. It ended in an INT on the final play of the game however. Yay Ponder! Vikings lost 38-26 anyway. Not going to win many games when you're giving up 76 yard TD runs to QB's in the 4th quarter. While compiling the 3 n out stats, I ran across some other interesting tids regarding drive stats. The longest drive in terms of time since 2004, preseason, regular season, or post season, was exactly 13:00 by the New York Giants in week 9 game in 2010 at Seattle. 19 plays, 13 minutes, 76 yards, 6 first downs, annnnnnnnnd it ended at the Seahawks 7 yard line on downs haha. To be fair that was the 4th quarter and there were only 34 seconds to go, so it's not like they were trying to score. The Giants won 41-7. The Giants possessed the ball at total of 42:34 for the game.To put that drive into perspective we need to talk about 41-donut for a second! We're over that one by now aren't we? Thought so. The Giants possessed the ball for the final 12:53 of that game in probably the most agonizing grind it drive I've ever seen. On 19 plays the Giants only gained 38 yards, which nearly consumed the entire 4th quarter. They picked up an additional 15 yards in penalties, and converted a total of 5 first downs. Joe Montgomery had 14 carries for 42 yards on that drive, and think every single one of them was exactly 3 yards. Felt like it. The Giants converted 6 of 8 3rd downs. The 2 they failed on, they picked up a 4th down on one, and on the other they were taking a knee. Good times! We did sack Jason Garrett (yep that one), on a 3rd and 9 earlier in the drive, but Bryce Paup drew a 15 yard face mask on the play, cuz Vikings!!! Yep when you lose 41-donut you get to find out who the other teams backup QB is.And now that I've spoiled dinner, on with epic drive stats. The Vikings longest drive in terms of time came in 2008, week 3 vs Carolina. A 19 play, 90 yard drive that took 11:34 off the clock at the end of the 3rd/beginning of the 4th quarter. And you guessed it, we punted ... j/k, no we settled for a FG to put us up 20-10, which ended up being the final.The longest drive against the Vikings came in a preseason game vs Cincinnati in 2016. Longest in terms of time and plays. A 22 play, 89 yard drive that took 12:24 off the clock. 3rd longest drive in the NFL overall in terms of time and yards. Unfortunately for the Bungles it was all for not as it ended on downs at the Vikings 3 yard line early in the 2nd quarter. Vikings won 17-16. If that wasn't crazy enough, the Vikings answered that drive with a 10 play, 103 yard drive, yes you heard that correctly, 103 yard (there were some penalties) TD drive that took 6:39 off the clock. Insult to injury for the Bungles. No shutout ruining INT's by Theodore in that one. In aof irony however, the next time he'd see the field would be 16 months later against the same Bungles.Noto relive thosememories however, so on with the show .... The longest drive since 2004 in terms of # of plays came in week 5 in 2007 by the Saints when they had a 24 play 68 yard drive that took 10:22 off the clock vs Carolina. It ended in a blocked FG in the 4th quarter xD. Saints would go on to miss another FG in the 4th that would have given them the lead with 2:14 to go. Carolina answered by driving down and kicking a buzzer beater of their own to win 16-13. Lucky for us, those Saints got those kicker problems figured out by 2009.The Vikings longest play drive, was the same 19 play drive mentioned earlier against Carolina. They had an 18 play drive against Detroit in 2011 that suspiciously ended in a fumble at the Lions 1 yard line on the final play of the game .... because Joe Webb nearly had his head twisted off by a Lions defender and it wasn't called. Vikings lost 34-28. Amazing comeback by Webb in that game after Ponder gave up 4 defensive TD's or something like that in the 1st half before getting benched. It would never occur to Frazier to go to the backup QB again in any of Ponders future struggles. If only he had an example of how well that could work out. Nah, seems like a surprise you'd want to save for the playoffs.The longest drive in terms of yards was by the Chargers earlier this year vs Oakland. In week 5 they had an 8 play 121 yard drive that ended in a TD. They began at their own 4 and accumulated 25 yards worth of penalties along the way. Goes in the books as a 96 yard drive, but they racked up 121 yards of offense, which was the most on a single drive.The Vikings had a 5 play 106 yard TD drive in a preseason game at Atlanta in 2004. Their longest regular season drive was pulled off by TJack in 2008 at Arizona. His 4 TD game. A 12 play 105 yard TD drive that ate 7:06 off the clock. Vikings won 35-14.Probably the oddest drive I saw came from the Steelers, or Browns, depending on how you want to look at it. The Steelers had a 6 play 3 yard drive that started at their own 13 yard line and ended with a FG at the Browns 7 yard line lol. Yeah you do the math on that one. The Browns committed back to back 39 and 38 yard DPI's. For those of you keeping score at home, that was essentially an 80 yard 3 n out as the only 2 first downs the Steelers picked up were via penalty.The offense that racked up the most penalty yards was surprisingly not the Vikings, although it was close. The 49ers racked up 44 penalty yards on a drive in a preseason game against the Bears in 2004. The Vikings tied for 2nd when they racked up 40 penalty yards on a drive in a preseason game against the 49ers in 2013. A 12 play 83 yard drive that ended in a punt lol. Vikings! We lost 34-13. The Browns had a 40 penalty yard drive in a regular season game and still managed to kick a FG.And I know you're wondering who picked up the most first downs on a drive. Well I got you covered on that too. 9 teams picked up 9 first downs on a single drive since 2004. And I know mathematically that seems like the maximum you could pick up on a drive, but you can technically pick up an infinite number of first downs on a drive if you include penalties. Like DPI on the goal line. In fact you can pick up 2 first downs on a single play if you pick up a first down and draw a personal foul. Also offensive TD's count as first downs if you didn't know.The last team to pick up 9 first downs on a drive was the Redskins earlier this year against the Ravens in the preseason. The Saints were the last team to do it in a regular season game, at Carolina in 2015.The Ravens are the only team to pick up 9 first downs on a drive without the aid of a penalty. On a 16 play 102 yard opening TD drive against Houston in 2011 that started from their own 3. That was one hell of a script Harbaugh.The fastest drive of 15 plays or mare was pulled off by the Texans in 2014. 16 plays in 1:55. Final drive of the game. It ended on downs and them losing 22-13. A blistering 7.19 seconds per play. The Vikings pulled of a 16 play 82 yard drive against Washington in 2012 in 2:21. It ended in an INT on the final play of the game however. Yay Ponder! Vikings lost 38-26 anyway. Not going to win many games when you're giving up 76 yard TD runs to QB's in the 4th quarter.

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Member Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Reignman said: To put that drive into perspective we need to talk about 41-donut for a second! We're over that one by now aren't we? Thought so. The Giants possessed the ball for the final 12:53 of that game in probably the most agonizing grind it drive I've ever seen. On 19 plays the Giants only gained 38 yards, which nearly consumed the entire 4th quarter. They picked up an additional 15 yards in penalties, and converted a total of 5 first downs. Joe Montgomery had 14 carries for 42 yards on that drive, and think every single one of them was exactly 3 yards. Felt like it. The Giants converted 6 of 8 3rd downs. The 2 they failed on, they picked up a 4th down on one, and on the other they were taking a knee. Good times! We did sack Jason Garrett (yep that one), on a 3rd and 9 earlier in the drive, but Bryce Paup drew a 15 yard face mask on the play, cuz Vikings!!! Yep when you lose 41-donut you get to find out who the other teams backup QB is.



This is one of the ugliest paragraphs I have ever read here. This is one of the ugliest paragraphs I have ever read here.

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Member Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Reignman said: Probably the oddest drive I saw came from the Steelers, or Browns, depending on how you want to look at it. The Steelers had a 6 play 3 yard drive that started at their own 13 yard line and ended with a FG at the Browns 7 yard line lol. Yeah you do the math on that one. The Browns committed back to back 39 and 38 yard DPI's. For those of you keeping score at home, that was essentially an 80 yard 3 n out as the only 2 first downs the Steelers picked up were via penalty



And yep, this is so Browns!



Reignman said: The Vikings longest play drive, was the same 19 play drive mentioned earlier against Carolina. They had an 18 play drive against Detroit in 2011 that suspiciously ended in a fumble at the Lions 1 yard line on the final play of the game .... because Joe Webb nearly had his head twisted off by a Lions defender and it wasn't called. Vikings lost 34-28. Amazing comeback by Webb in that game after Ponder gave up 4 defensive TD's or something like that in the 1st half before getting benched. It would never occur to Frazier to go to the backup QB again in any of Ponders future struggles. If only he had an example of how well that could work out. Nah, seems like a surprise you'd want to save for the playoffs.



Okay, this has some ugliness, too. And, yep, I remember that play like it was yesterday.



I'm sure Nemmy was livid with how that game ended. What a freaking waste.

And yep, this is so Browns!Okay, this has some ugliness, too.And, yep, I remember that play like it was yesterday.I'm sure Nemmy was livid with how that game ended. What a freaking waste.

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Member Back to Top Post by Reignman on Funkytown said: Reignman said: To put that drive into perspective we need to talk about 41-donut for a second! We're over that one by now aren't we? Thought so. The Giants possessed the ball for the final 12:53 of that game in probably the most agonizing grind it drive I've ever seen. On 19 plays the Giants only gained 38 yards, which nearly consumed the entire 4th quarter. They picked up an additional 15 yards in penalties, and converted a total of 5 first downs. Joe Montgomery had 14 carries for 42 yards on that drive, and think every single one of them was exactly 3 yards. Felt like it. The Giants converted 6 of 8 3rd downs. The 2 they failed on, they picked up a 4th down on one, and on the other they were taking a knee. Good times! We did sack Jason Garrett (yep that one), on a 3rd and 9 earlier in the drive, but Bryce Paup drew a 15 yard face mask on the play, cuz Vikings!!! Yep when you lose 41-donut you get to find out who the other teams backup QB is. This is one of the ugliest paragraphs I have ever read here.

Just realized the math was wrong on that final drive. The Giants converted 4 of 6 3rd downs, one was a knee at the end, and on the other they picked up the first on 4th. It's like wait, how do you convert 6 3rd downs, a 4th down, and only have 5 total first downs xD. Just realized the math was wrong on that final drive. The Giants converted 4 of 6 3rd downs, one was a knee at the end, and on the other they picked up the first on 4th. It's like wait, how do you convert 6 3rd downs, a 4th down, and only have 5 total first downs xD.