WinterViewbot420 Profile Blog Joined December 2015 345 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-31 07:13:12 #1 ANOTHER EDIT: Nevermind, Scan and Koreans have confirmed you do indeed need a Korean ID. I thought I mistranslated the post, turns out I was right. Yayyyy *dances over useless forum post*







Another EDIT: They edited it to say this is for "special benefits" which is, unsurprisingly, super fucking vague and says nothing. There was no notice of this edit.



EDIT: Melee, UMS, absolutely everything including making accounts is exactly the same as before. Find a Korean friend that will let you use their number. If you have to go on Twitter or Reddit.



There has not been a post about this, I will add a link if there is an announcement on the FishBattle forums.



This is a huge blow to foreigners, you will need to verify a Korean phone number starting April 1st to access the ladder. Three accounts per phone number, no more for any reason whatsoever. The requirement of 30 wins and 48 hours online will be removed.

quick edit: This is to make the ladder more accessible because right now the ladder is extremely difficult due to the 30 melee win requirement. This makes it very hard for newer players to get into StarCraft. With the recent influx of players Fish staff are doing everything they can to make the ladder more accessible.



I don't have much else to put here, but I felt this is extremely important. If you ladder on Fish, find a Korean friend willing to lend their number. Nevermind, Scan and Koreans have confirmed you do indeed need a Korean ID. I thought I mistranslated the post, turns out I was right. Yayyyy *dances over useless forum post*Another EDIT: They edited it to say this is for "special benefits" which is, unsurprisingly, super fucking vague and says nothing. There was no notice of this edit.EDIT: Melee, UMS, absolutely everything including making accounts is exactly the same as before. Find a Korean friend that will let you use their number. If you have to go on Twitter or Reddit.There has not been a post about this, I will add a link if there is an announcement on the FishBattle forums.This is a huge blow to foreigners, you will need to verify a Korean phone number starting April 1st to access the ladder. Three accounts per phone number, no more for any reason whatsoever. The requirement of 30 wins and 48 hours online will be removed.quick edit: This is to make the ladder more accessible because right now the ladder is extremely difficult due to the 30 melee win requirement. This makes it very hard for newer players to get into StarCraft. With the recent influx of players Fish staff are doing everything they can to make the ladder more accessible.I don't have much else to put here, but I felt this is extremely important. If you ladder on Fish, find a Korean friend willing to lend their number.

kogeT Profile Joined September 2013 Poland 1646 Posts #2 Omg Winter will you be my Korean friend? https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw

RoomOfMush Profile Joined March 2015 1296 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-29 23:05:05 #3 What the actual f*ck? Who does stuff like this? Is it really the medieval ages still?

Do you just have to enter a number or are they actually calling and asking you questions?

WinterViewbot420 Profile Blog Joined December 2015 345 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-29 23:12:23 #4 On March 30 2016 08:04 RoomOfMush wrote:

What the actual f*ck? Who does stuff like this? Is it really the medieval ages still?

Do you just have to enter a number or are they actually calling and asking you questions?

From what I can tell it'll be a verification text. It's to keep people from making tons of smurfs or pulling a Last and taking up 20% of the top 50 ladder.



Smurfing is a pretty big problem in Korean games that don't require ID, and why would Fish just sit back and let all 100,000 new players since mid-November drive themselves away? From what I can tell it'll be a verification text. It's to keep people from making tons of smurfs or pulling a Last and taking up 20% of the top 50 ladder.Smurfing is a pretty big problem in Korean games that don't require ID, and why would Fish just sit back and let all 100,000 new players since mid-November drive themselves away?

DarkNetHunter Profile Joined October 2012 1224 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-29 23:31:33 #5 A reasonable anti-smurfing measure, although it really gives Fish a ton of personal data information they should not be having at all.



Any possibility they'll give non-koreans some other option of registration or is this the end for most foreigner's ability to play on Fish?



What about existing IDs, will these be carried through without the new verification process or will all existing accounts have to get verified?



Edit:

You said ladder, does this mean anyone can still access Fish server and make accs, they just can't participate on Ladder without this verification code? How is this verification entered once on bnet? Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.

WinterViewbot420 Profile Blog Joined December 2015 345 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-30 00:09:45 #6 On March 30 2016 08:29 DarkNetHunter wrote:

A reasonable anti-smurfing measure, although it really gives Fish a ton of personal data information they should not be having at all.



Any possibility they'll give non-koreans some other option of registration or is this the end for most foreigner's ability to play on Fish?



What about existing IDs, will these be carried through without the new verification process or will all existing accounts have to get verified?



Edit:

You said ladder, does this mean anyone can still access Fish server and make accs, they just can't participate on Ladder without this verification code? How is this verification entered once on bnet?

Yes, this is only for ladder. Nothing else will be changed.





The full list of account rules as of April 1st are as follows:

Only three accounts may be created per 14 days by a single user



Boosting yourself with secondary accounts, including melee stats, is forbidden



Phone verification is required to participate in the ladder



Only three accounts may be linked to a single phone number and therefore user



30 melee wins will no longer be required to participate in the ladder



Users banned for map hacking will be IP banned and their phone number will be invalid for activation



Unofficial notes for foreigners by WinterViewbot420 (gotta look snazzy here shhh):

Korean friends are allowed to use their phone number to activate your account



Consistent lag may result in a ban from the ladder, but not from Fish or anything else



Bad manners such as corner floating may result in IP, MAC, HWID and motherboard UID ban



A VPN may result in a ban depending on latency and past actions

Yes, this is only for ladder. Nothing else will be changed.The full list of account rules as of April 1st are as follows:Unofficial notes for foreigners by WinterViewbot420 (gotta look snazzy here shhh):

Trozz Profile Blog Joined November 2008 Canada 3334 Posts #7 That's pretty brutal.

Now they get to data mine.

Bling bling, players lose. A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.

evilfatsh1t Profile Joined October 2010 Australia 5059 Posts #8 wtf is corner floating

WinterViewbot420 Profile Blog Joined December 2015 345 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-30 00:55:43 #9 On March 30 2016 09:46 Trozz wrote:

That's pretty brutal.

Now they get to data mine.

Bling bling, players lose.

Koreans are really happy about this. Now anybody can play the ladder and F will be what it's supposed to be, which is the lowest level. People got offended when I said F players could beat top iCCup players. I'm not disrespecting foreigners, I'm stating that it's a problem. In what reality should an F player on one server beat an A or B player on another?



Koreans are really happy about this. Now anybody can play the ladder and F will be what it's supposed to be, which is the lowest level. People got offended when I said F players could beat top iCCup players. I'm not disrespecting foreigners, I'm stating that it's a problem. In what reality should an F player on one server beat an A or B player on another? On March 30 2016 09:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:

wtf is corner floating

Floating your buildings in a hard-to-reach areas of the map so people have to build flying units to kill them Floating your buildings in a hard-to-reach areas of the map so people have to build flying units to kill them

StylishVODs Profile Joined December 2005 Sweden 5331 Posts #10 April first, so ... joke? According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.

WinterViewbot420 Profile Blog Joined December 2015 345 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-30 01:12:11 #11 On March 30 2016 10:00 StylishVODs wrote:

April first, so ... joke?

Fish does not joke. There's a lot you can joke about, this is something that would just piss people off if it was a joke. Fish does not joke. There's a lot you can joke about, this is something that would just piss people off if it was a joke.

LaStScan Profile Joined May 2011 Korea (South) 1188 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-30 01:41:39 #12 I think it is an okay idea even though non-korean and korean who live in different countries will have the difficulty of entering ladder games.

Korean server games, we are always required to verify our ID by cellphone(going through text message; aka: Code).

That's why there's not a lot of people smurfing in games(1 ID for 3 accounts i believe, and this is for Riot Games KR LOL).



I would like the admin to think of the people who live in outside and solve this problem in another way instead of borrowing korean friends' phone number. Trying my best for ASL, ASTL

Probemicro Profile Joined February 2014 3708 Posts Last Edited: 2016-03-30 02:59:47 #13 source link



implement xenophobic policy (though its common in other kor games) to accomodate new casual players, also get to gather personal data to sell to 3rd parties. kill 3 birds with 1 stone, nice. implement xenophobic policy (though its common in other kor games) to accomodate new casual players, also get to gather personal data to sell to 3rd parties. kill 3 birds with 1 stone, nice.

amazingxkcd Profile Blog Joined September 2010 GRAND OLD AMERICA 15736 Posts #14 don't blame them for doing this. if this is SOP for their online games and is part of their culture, then why should they accommodate for foreigners? People will figure out how to spoof korean phone numbers regardless The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings

fearthequeen Profile Joined November 2011 United States 727 Posts #15 On March 30 2016 09:53 WinterViewbot420 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 30 2016 09:46 Trozz wrote:

That's pretty brutal.

Now they get to data mine.

Bling bling, players lose.

Koreans are really happy about this. Now anybody can play the ladder and F will be what it's supposed to be, which is the lowest level. People got offended when I said F players could beat top iCCup players. I'm not disrespecting foreigners, I'm stating that it's a problem. In what reality should an F player on one server beat an A or B player on another?



Show nested quote +

On March 30 2016 09:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:

wtf is corner floating

Floating your buildings in a hard-to-reach areas of the map so people have to build flying units to kill them Koreans are really happy about this. Now anybody can play the ladder and F will be what it's supposed to be, which is the lowest level.Floating your buildings in a hard-to-reach areas of the map so people have to build flying units to kill them



I'm going to ignore the semantics about F fish players vs top iccup players and simply ask: Why would a players' rank on iccup or any other server be relevant when they are playing on Fish? What's the problem if F players were actually better than A rank on iccup? Separate servers' ranking systems are independent. I'm going to ignore the semantics about F fish players vs top iccup players and simply ask: Why would a players' rank on iccup or any other server be relevant when they are playing on Fish? What's the problem if F players were actually better than A rank on iccup? Separate servers' ranking systems are independent. flying

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48886 Posts #16 uh no, unlike kssn's it's near impossible to spoof phone numbers and receive text messages from them. Commentator Twitter: @GTR1H

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blade55555 Profile Blog Joined March 2009 United States 17373 Posts #17 Hm well that sucks, there goes my goal to play on Fish ladder When I think of something else, something will go here

BigFan Profile Blog Joined December 2010 TLADT 24439 Posts #18 On March 30 2016 12:25 fearthequeen wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 30 2016 09:53 WinterViewbot420 wrote:

On March 30 2016 09:46 Trozz wrote:

That's pretty brutal.

Now they get to data mine.

Bling bling, players lose.

Koreans are really happy about this. Now anybody can play the ladder and F will be what it's supposed to be, which is the lowest level. People got offended when I said F players could beat top iCCup players. I'm not disrespecting foreigners, I'm stating that it's a problem. In what reality should an F player on one server beat an A or B player on another?



On March 30 2016 09:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:

wtf is corner floating

Floating your buildings in a hard-to-reach areas of the map so people have to build flying units to kill them Koreans are really happy about this. Now anybody can play the ladder and F will be what it's supposed to be, which is the lowest level.Floating your buildings in a hard-to-reach areas of the map so people have to build flying units to kill them



I'm going to ignore the semantics about F fish players vs top iccup players and simply ask: Why would a players' rank on iccup or any other server be relevant when they are playing on Fish? What's the problem if F players were actually better than A rank on iccup? Separate servers' ranking systems are independent. I'm going to ignore the semantics about F fish players vs top iccup players and simply ask: Why would a players' rank on iccup or any other server be relevant when they are playing on Fish? What's the problem if F players were actually better than A rank on iccup? Separate servers' ranking systems are independent.

While I don't disagree with your main point, please, let's focus on these rule changes. Personally, I think this is pretty big news. Wonder if it'll affect the amount of foreigners who play on fish and if in turn, this will cause some to go back to ICCup. While I don't disagree with your main point, please, let's focus on these rule changes. Personally, I think this is pretty big news. Wonder if it'll affect the amount of foreigners who play on fish and if in turn, this will cause some to go back to ICCup. Former BW EiC "Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017

ShloobeR Profile Blog Joined April 2008 Korea (South) 3546 Posts #19 Verification by mobile phone is pretty much everywhere in Korea



it's not surprising that this is their go-to method. : o )

xboi209 Profile Blog Joined June 2011 United States 1173 Posts #20 On March 30 2016 13:09 ShloobeR wrote:

Verification by mobile phone is pretty much everywhere in Korea



it's not surprising that this is their go-to method.

I've always had the impression that Korea and Japan integrates technology into people's daily lives through things like this I've always had the impression that Korea and Japan integrates technology into people's daily lives through things like this http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/

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