Yesterday morning, I received an interesting comment from a fellow named Sig on my second post examining the claim used by MRAs (as documented here, and seen in current usage to shut women up here) that prison rape means more men than women are raped in a year.

Stephanie as Im not allowed to comment here… Im going to be making multiple posts about the false assertions you have made relating to rape about myself and everyone else in the mens movement.

I figured it was going to be hilarious, as this is the guy who was trying desperately and illiterately to prove I was wrong based on the fact that I’m a feminist. What I didn’t anticipate was just how funny the results would be.

It starts with the fact that Sig’s idea of publicizing how evil I am is to put four posts up on Reddit. No, really. Then we have the fact that he put up one post to that effect and three full posts trumpeting my results because they supposedly demonstrate gender parity in rape. (For the record, they don’t, and they only come as close as they do because I bent over backward to give the MRA hypothesis every reasonable chance by ignoring that women are raped at higher rates in incarceration.)

Then there’s the discussion on Reddit. The bits about the numbers are fun.

She claims that the rotating population inflates the numbers, but then later claims the rotating population hides the real rape rates for women. She pointed out women are raped 2-3 times per capita than men, but ignored that men outnumber women ~20 to 1, and are 4-5 times more likely to be raped in the first 24 hours.

Well, no. That’s not what I said at all.

Her chart has almost 4 million women being raped every year. The National Crime Victimization Survey has less than 200,000 women being raped every year. She’s over-stating the number of rapes as surveyed by the Bureau of Justice Statistics by 2000% percent. She claims that she’s getting this number from the NISVS, or the recent CDC report of sexual victimization. She doesn’t say whether she’s using the NISVS data for the most recent 12-month period or the lifetime data. Another glaring omission and error. My guess is she used whatever data showed the most female rapes. Notice how she craftily switches her comparison data from the NCVS survey to the CDC’s NISVS report. It’s two different reports with two different methodologies. In her original article, she stated that the BJS’s NCVS was the proper data source to use to compare the BJS’s prison survey data. Now she wants to use the NISVS data. Why? Because the NISVS data shows more rapes than the NCVS data does. The NCVS is a more comprehensive survey compiled by the Department of Justice, just like prison inmate surveys. The NISVS is a CDC report.

Sig asks this guy to post the information on my blog. The funny part? My original analysis used the NCVS data. Sig insisted that was wrong because it should use the NISVS data. Ah, consistency. And we get one anti-feminist saying:

That old article that doesn’t even mention NISVS? Or for that matter it fails to mention that even the NVAWS cited men being raped outside jails at one third the rate of women. I bet it used lifetime rates — those liars always do. So old at this I don’t even have to read the crap any more.

Also fun is that in Sig’s complaint post, he’s all upset that I suggested MRAs are “interested” in prison rape mostly as a way to tell feminists to shut up. So what happens on Reddit?

How do they live with themselves, no concience. They are like sociopaths who cannot feel emathy for anything with a penis. This is why you can’t discuss politics with a feminist.

The insanity of feminists is apparent here. […] I dub her “feminist traffic whore”.

Feminism is not a dogma that teaches critical thinking or actual statistical analysis. It isn’t even a science. If it were a science, we’d consider it part of the extremely soft sciences. All feminism teaches is how to portray any situation as men are to blame, men have it better, and women are victims. So in this case she’s probably not actually trying to present bad data. She’s just doesn’t know any better.

The quotes are because you cannot be an atheist/skeptic and a feminist at the same time because feminism is a faith based ism and quasi-religion.

I think that using false assertions and claims relating to rape / abuse / violence is so ingrained in their culture that they just do it out of habit.

It’s a great example of female solipsism.

Did you seriously expect a feminist not to lie?

But don’t forget, it’s all about the victims, not about trying to say feminists are evil. Right?