The most recent debate between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders scared up only 4.5 million viewers on MSNBC. This weekend’s fiery Republican presidential debate in South Carolina pulled in more than three times as many viewers, with 13.5 million viewers. The Democrat debate aired on a Thursday night. The Republican debate aired late (9 p.m. ET) on a Saturday night. Across various platforms outside of television, another 5 million viewed all or part of the GOP debate.

You can’t blame the low ratings on MSNBC. If the interest was there, the viewers would follow. The left-wing cable news network is available in 95 million households. Fox News is available in almost exactly the same number of homes and managed to attract 25 million viewers for the first Republican debate of the 2016 presidential campaign season.

Despite what the outcome of an election between the Bungler of Benghazi and a 278 year-old socialist could mean for the future of the Democrat Party, Democrat voters just aren’t all that excited or invested in either candidate.

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