amungus

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America amungus Premium Member Well that sucks So let me get this straight. I can only use my connection for about 1.2 days total out of the month? Thanks a lot. That is crap. Sincerely, a Cox customer since about 2002.



houkouonchi

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Ontario, CA houkouonchi Member Re: Well that sucks said by amungus: So let me get this straight. I can only use my connection for about 1.2 days total out of the month? Thanks a lot. That is crap. Sincerely, a Cox customer since about 2002.

Yeah that is some lame shit. I hope that business with no cap is an option? VZ never even says a peep with me using 20TB+/month.



Nightfall

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Grand Rapids, MI Nightfall MVM Re: Well that sucks said by houkouonchi: said by amungus: So let me get this straight. I can only use my connection for about 1.2 days total out of the month? Thanks a lot. That is crap. Sincerely, a Cox customer since about 2002.



Yeah that is some lame shit. I hope that business with no cap is an option? VZ never even says a peep with me using 20TB+/month. 20TB per month on a residential connection? Please excuse me while I call BS.

sub42ox7one

join:2009-09-08 sub42ox7one Member Re: Well that sucks Uhh 20TB is doable on a 150mbit/s fios connection which he has listed as having I do 3 and half TB a month on average on a 20mbit/s. With his connection it would only take 13days of straight usage to reach 20TB. Also I know quite a few people with 50 to 100TB raid arrays, I have a 50.8TB raid 6 array (well two 25.8TB raid 6 arrays). Anyway data caps are pointless when there are so many other ways to deal with peak usage such as traffic management and on most networks its not even needed.



Nightfall

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Grand Rapids, MI Nightfall MVM Re: Well that sucks said by sub42ox7one: Uhh 20TB is doable on a 150mbit/s fios connection which he has listed as having I do 3 and half TB a month on average on a 20mbit/s. With his connection it would only take 13days of straight usage to reach 20TB. Also I know quite a few people with 50 to 100TB raid arrays, I have a 50.8TB raid 6 array (well two 25.8TB raid 6 arrays). Anyway data caps are pointless when there are so many other ways to deal with peak usage such as traffic management and on most networks its not even needed.

Not that I don't think it is possible, but I don't believe a common residential customer uses that kind of bandwidth. Even an advanced BBR user doesn't use that. He must be running a website or is a torrent king.



Simba7

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Fromberg, MT Simba7 Member Re: Well that sucks said by Nightfall: Not that I don't think it is possible, but I don't believe a common residential customer uses that kind of bandwidth. Even an advanced BBR user doesn't use that. He must be running a website or is a torrent king.



I'd love to have a 150mbps connection but, in reality, I couldn't utilize that much bandwidth. I'd be perfectly fine with a symmetrical 50 or 100, but I'm not bitching about the 30x5. It's a hell of alot better than the 18x1 I had. I would lean more towards torrenting the hell out of his/her connection. I operate 4 VPN connections (family) on my 30x5 and it runs rather decent. It doesn't help that their ISPs suck.I'd love to have a 150mbps connection but, in reality, I couldn't utilize that much bandwidth. I'd be perfectly fine with a symmetrical 50 or 100, but I'm not bitching about the 30x5. It's a hell of alot better than the 18x1 I had.



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said by Nightfall: Not that I don't think it is possible, but I don't believe a common residential customer uses that kind of bandwidth. Even an advanced BBR user doesn't use that. He must be running a website or is a torrent king.

For internet users there is no such thing as common or typical usage. Each user is unique.



Nightfall

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Grand Rapids, MI Nightfall MVM Re: Well that sucks said by Oh_No: said by Nightfall: Not that I don't think it is possible, but I don't believe a common residential customer uses that kind of bandwidth. Even an advanced BBR user doesn't use that. He must be running a website or is a torrent king.



For internet users there is no such thing as common or typical usage. Each user is unique. There is still a general usage that you can expect when it comes to the type of user. They really do fall into a general range.



Oh_No

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Chicago, IL Oh_No Member Re: Well that sucks said by Nightfall: said by Oh_No: said by Nightfall: Not that I don't think it is possible, but I don't believe a common residential customer uses that kind of bandwidth. Even an advanced BBR user doesn't use that. He must be running a website or is a torrent king.



For internet users there is no such thing as common or typical usage. Each user is unique.

There is still a general usage that you can expect when it comes to the type of user. They really do fall into a general range. Sure you can put past usage into categories, but you cant predict the future. Everyones usage is unique and will always vary. You dont know what people use until they use it.

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said by Nightfall : 20TB per month on a residential connection? Please excuse me while I call BS. LMAO!!! Good one.



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said by Nightfall: said by houkouonchi: said by amungus: So let me get this straight. I can only use my connection for about 1.2 days total out of the month? Thanks a lot. That is crap. Sincerely, a Cox customer since about 2002.



Yeah that is some lame shit. I hope that business with no cap is an option? VZ never even says a peep with me using 20TB+/month.

20TB per month on a residential connection? Please excuse me while I call BS.



»fios.houkouonchi.jp/bandwidth/



It says fios1,fios2 because I used to have two 35/35 but now I only have one connection which is 150 down 75 up.



And yes I Have a lot of storage. Here is a picture of the rack at my house:







In case you don't want to count that that is 162 TB worth of HD's in that rack.



Also I do have a business connection but its pretty much the same price ($5) difference if that? from the residential connection and back when I had two 35/35 one was residential and I used 10TB/month off of it with no complaints from VZ. Well Its been a while since I have gone over 20TB but I did several times last year Its still pretty close to ~20TB/month. Look here:It says fios1,fios2 because I used to have two 35/35 but now I only have one connection which is 150 down 75 up.And yes I Have a lot of storage. Here is a picture of the rack at my house:In case you don't want to count that that is 162 TB worth of HD's in that rack.Also I do have a business connection but its pretty much the same price ($5) difference if that? from the residential connection and back when I had two 35/35 one was residential and I used 10TB/month off of it with no complaints from VZ.



Simba7

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Fromberg, MT Simba7 Member Re: Well that sucks said by houkouonchi: In case you don't want to count that that is 162 TB worth of HD's in that rack.



Also I do have a business connection but its pretty much the same price ($5) difference if that? from the residential connection and back when I had two 35/35 one was residential and I used 10TB/month off of it with no complaints from VZ.



I'm looking into building a few Backblaze pods for a project I'm working on. Just need the time to do it. What do you operate with that?I'm looking into building a few Backblaze pods for a project I'm working on. Just need the time to do it.

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Well done houkouonchi. That should shut the hater's up. We should be able to do whatever the hell we want with our connections.



ummmmmm

@cox.net ummmmmm Anon Re: Well that sucks said by axiomatic: Well done houkouonchi. That should shut the hater's up. We should be able to do whatever the hell we want with our connections.

can't compare this is a business account not a residential which he just offered up.

axiomatic

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Tomball, TX axiomatic Member Re: Well that sucks Look... I get that... that's not how houkouonchi was being treated though now was he? And in truth, there isn't much diff between the two other than looser contracts for the business accounts, they still traverse the same backbone. Cox is pissing in to the wind and they need to be called out for their inability to burgeon their infrastructure versus implementing ridiculously abusive caps to make up for their deficiencies.

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Chula Vista, CA 1 edit cableguy619 Premium Member Re: Well that sucks said by axiomatic: Look... I get that... that's not how houkouonchi was being treated though now was he? And in truth, there isn't much diff between the two other than looser contracts for the business accounts, they still traverse the same backbone. Cox is pissing in to the wind and they need to be called out for their inability to burgeon their infrastructure versus implementing ridiculously abusive caps to make up for their deficiencies.

I think he tried to make a point about no caps without being up front about his point. Until he was called out is when he fessed up on what service level. I mean a business is exactly that a business and by his picture he shows he needs all the bandwidth he gets, but at no point are the 2 services to be treated the same as the purpose for the 2 are totally different.



houkouonchi

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Ontario, CA houkouonchi Member Re: Well that sucks I have used excessive traffic on VZ residential just as I have on business. For my connection there is only about a $5 difference between business and residential and its not really what I would consider a 'business' class connection anyway as its still delivered to a home and it doesn't have any type of SLA or anything like that.



I know some companies charge more for a business connection with no caps but not all of them do this. I was wondering if cox at least did this. The only reason I have a business connection (opposed to residential) is because I wanted to get a static IP which was not offered on residential. I could just as easily be using the same bandwidth I am now on a residential connection as I did for around a year and I know I still wouldn't hear anything from VZ.



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. 162TB isn't enough disk space! I think it's time to get more drives installed onto the rack. 162TB isn't enough disk space!

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Then you must be a businessman! What a lot of storage you have there!

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...that has got to generate some serious noise/heat, but it looks like pretty sweet.



My standard 'preferred' Cox line is 15/1.5, I generally see a steady 2MB/sec speed when it's maxed. I think the fastest they have here is 50Mbps, but I can't justify having it. Now, if I had more serious equipment like that at home, then by all means I'd want the fastest, most unfettered internet access possible Nice rack...that has got to generate some serious noise/heat, but it looks like pretty sweet.My standard 'preferred' Cox line is 15/1.5, I generally see a steady 2MB/sec speed when it's maxed. I think the fastest they have here is 50Mbps, but I can't justify having it. Now, if I had more serious equipment like that at home, then by all means I'd want the fastest, most unfettered internet access possible



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said by houkouonchi: Also I do have a business connection but its pretty much the same price ($5) difference if that? from the residential connection and back when I had two 35/35 one was residential and I used 10TB/month off of it with no complaints from VZ.

Well then, you don't have a residential connection. I thought you might have a business connection or a business need.



jmn1207

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Sterling, VA jmn1207 Premium Member Re: Well that sucks He did says that he used 10TB on a FiOS 35/35 residential connection before. But the question he stated was whether there was an option for a business tier at Cox with not caps.



If there is, I wonder how much it would cost?



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Simba7

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Re: Well that sucks Yummm... Me want one.. or two..



I wonder what the redundancy is.. I'd love to fire up a RAID-Z3 (or Z4) array on this.



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Tulsa, OK jchambers28 Premium Member Re: Well that sucks It's very redundant that's allot of 3 TB HDD's.



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said by Simba7: Yummm... Me want one.. or two..



I wonder what the redundancy is.. I'd love to fire up a RAID-Z3 (or Z4) array on this.





osol box is raidz2 (so can survive 2 disk failures)

Dekabutsu 20x2 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures)

Dekabutsu 30x3 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures).



30-32 is really close to the limit of what I am willing to do in a single raid6 array. I am not really willing to do more than 8 in raid5 though. Dekabutsu needed to be linux which is why its raid6 and not raidz3. Had I been running solaris I probably would have done raidz3 (can survive 3 disk failures). So far on my older arrays disk failures have been months between each-other so I am not really worried about 3 disks failing within less than a day (which is what it would take for me to lose the array). The redundancy of the big ones is:osol box is raidz2 (so can survive 2 disk failures)Dekabutsu 20x2 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures)Dekabutsu 30x3 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures).30-32 is really close to the limit of what I am willing to do in a single raid6 array. I am not really willing to do more than 8 in raid5 though. Dekabutsu needed to be linux which is why its raid6 and not raidz3. Had I been running solaris I probably would have done raidz3 (can survive 3 disk failures). So far on my older arrays disk failures have been months between each-other so I am not really worried about 3 disks failing within less than a day (which is what it would take for me to lose the array).



Nightfall

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Grand Rapids, MI Nightfall MVM Re: Well that sucks said by houkouonchi: said by Simba7: Yummm... Me want one.. or two..



I wonder what the redundancy is.. I'd love to fire up a RAID-Z3 (or Z4) array on this.





osol box is raidz2 (so can survive 2 disk failures)

Dekabutsu 20x2 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures)

Dekabutsu 30x3 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures).



30-32 is really close to the limit of what I am willing to do in a single raid6 array. I am not really willing to do more than 8 in raid5 though. Dekabutsu needed to be linux which is why its raid6 and not raidz3. Had I been running solaris I probably would have done raidz3 (can survive 3 disk failures). So far on my older arrays disk failures have been months between each-other so I am not really worried about 3 disks failing within less than a day (which is what it would take for me to lose the array).

The redundancy of the big ones is:osol box is raidz2 (so can survive 2 disk failures)Dekabutsu 20x2 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures)Dekabutsu 30x3 disks raid6 (survive 2 disk failures).30-32 is really close to the limit of what I am willing to do in a single raid6 array. I am not really willing to do more than 8 in raid5 though. Dekabutsu needed to be linux which is why its raid6 and not raidz3. Had I been running solaris I probably would have done raidz3 (can survive 3 disk failures). So far on my older arrays disk failures have been months between each-other so I am not really worried about 3 disks failing within less than a day (which is what it would take for me to lose the array). Do you do anything when it comes to a backup? Either offsite replication or some kind of disk based backup onsite?



houkouonchi

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Ontario, CA 1 recommendation houkouonchi Member Re: Well that sucks The osol box that is 18TB usable is just backups. I am not super worried about something like my house burning down but I also have the most important stuff also backed up to a colo'd server that has 12TB of storage.



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Grand Rapids, MI Nightfall MVM Re: Well that sucks said by houkouonchi: The osol box that is 18TB usable is just backups. I am not super worried about something like my house burning down but I also have the most important stuff also backed up to a colo'd server that has 12TB of storage.

That is awesome. Thanks for the info and a look at your equipment.



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Perhaps you answered already and I missed it; but, generally speaking, what are you transferring?

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What can you do with 162 TB of hard disk space? You downloading the internet?

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said by houkouonchi: said by amungus: So let me get this straight. I can only use my connection for about 1.2 days total out of the month? Thanks a lot. That is crap. Sincerely, a Cox customer since about 2002.



Yeah that is some lame shit. I hope that business with no cap is an option? VZ never even says a peep with me using 20TB+/month. you're the kind of user which is the reason we have caps in the first place so thanks. You are not using your connection legally if you are using 20 TB a month. You deserve to get booted.

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said by amungus: So let me get this straight. I can only use my connection for about 1.2 days total out of the month? Right, because that's exactly what Cox is stating



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said by amungus: So let me get this straight. I can only use my connection for about 1.2 days total out of the month? Thanks a lot. That is crap. Sincerely, a Cox customer since about 2002.





Last AT&T bandwidth usage before bailing.

For the brief period when I was capped at 150 GB (AT&T only implemented them in the Spring of 2011, and I had fired them by June), I never showed higher than 95 GB of usage, or so. I don't think I would quantify caps as forcing a daily limit on Internet usage. I have maintained a 24/7 Internet connection since getting Pacific Bell DSL Service in February of 2001. But I don't download stuff 24/7.

amungus

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America amungus Premium Member Re: Well that sucks Cox does pretty much state it themselves, on their own site - "200GB is about 33 HD movies."



Put another way, if I were to max out my line, I could do so for approximately 27.8 to 29 hours.



Or, even in their terms ...1 movie a day... What if you watch more than that? What if you watched, say, 3 episodes of (streaming HD) TV a night?



Oh, and don't forget OS updates, AV updates, iPod updates, random YouTube, streaming music, gaming, browsing, working...........



The "average household" is already capable of hitting this limit without a 2nd thought. It's too low a cap at 15+ Mbps, plain and simple.



I've seen usage in my "household" hit 200GB with just Netflix...



Do I expect to max it out all the time, really? Probably not. Point is, it's still arbitrarily restrictive by today's standards.



NormanS

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NormanS MVM Re: Well that sucks said by amungus: Or, even in their terms ...1 movie a day... What if you watch more than that? What if you watched, say, 3 episodes of (streaming HD) TV a night?



• I know a person with three household members who routinely breaches the AT&T DSL cap (150 GB), but not their ISP cap (250 GB). Oh, and don't forget OS updates, AV updates, iPod updates, random YouTube, streaming music, gaming, browsing, working...........





I generally agree that caps suck; I quit my last ISP over caps (fortunately I had a no-cap option). But most people I know do not come close to maxing their bandwidth on a 24/7 basis. I don't mean hitting their caps; rather hitting their D/L speed. • I don't have the time to watch one movie per day.• I know a person with three household members who routinely breaches the AT&T DSL cap (150 GB), but not their ISP cap (250 GB).I do plenty of OS updates (Windows 7 x4, and Windows XP x2), AV updates (Windows x6), random YouTube, streaming music, gaming, browsing, VoD, etc., etc. Throw in a considerable amount of P2P piracy of fansubbed anime, and I could hit 90+ GB on my own.I generally agree that caps suck; I quit my last ISP over caps (fortunately I had a no-cap option). But most people I know do not come close to maxing their bandwidth on a 24/7 basis. I don't mean hitting their caps; rather hitting their D/L speed.



n2jtx

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Glen Head, NY n2jtx Member Could Get Interesting The government claims (not that I agree) that broadband access is a civil right and is trying to get USF money redirected towards building out broadband in rural areas as well as providing it to poor people. So when a company decides to take away something you have a right to, what is going to happen? Especially without any due process proceedings in the court system.



Cox's policy may have its days numbered. Especially if USF money ever comes into play.

tmc8080

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Brooklyn, NY tmc8080 Member one day... one day this cap crap will be part of revised regulation of the isp industry. the federal government let this so-called two wire competition wither and die for much of the country. apparently a one size fits all set of regulations that work just fine in the northeast and other population centers around the country are not working for the rest of the country. that's where letting new carriers into the market without interference from the local politics (and corrupt lobbying) come into play with LAW that says where carriers think they can charger more and not upgrade the network are gonna do so at their own peril of getting another wired caarrier entrant into the market.



imagine what gasoline prices would be like if the same happened for renewable bio ethanol?



for far too long ISPs have looked at competition as a "race to the bottom" but need to think of it as survival of the fittest-- and fit isn't an arbirary cap, high prices and little to no investment in upgrading the network. if it takes a federal cattle prod. so be it.

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Re: one day... said by tmc8080: one day this cap crap will be part of revised regulation of the isp industry. the federal government let this so-called two wire competition wither and die for much of the country. apparently a one size fits all set of regulations that work just fine in the northeast and other population centers around the country are not working for the rest of the country. that's where letting new carriers into the market without interference from the local politics (and corrupt lobbying) come into play with LAW that says where carriers think they can charger more and not upgrade the network are gonna do so at their own peril of getting another wired caarrier entrant into the market.



imagine what gasoline prices would be like if the same happened for renewable bio ethanol?



for far too long ISPs have looked at competition as a "race to the bottom" but need to think of it as survival of the fittest-- and fit isn't an arbirary cap, high prices and little to no investment in upgrading the network. if it takes a federal cattle prod. so be it.





Agreed that one-size does not fit all. But one of the primary reasons you don't/won't see carrier upgrades in rural settings is the threat of LTE, which is truly a race-to-the-bottom. Why would a wired entity invest in cable or fiber upgrades if they can't charge a market price? Huh? Where in the country are new carriers barred from the local market?Agreed that one-size does not fit all. But one of the primary reasons you don't/won't see carrier upgrades in rural settings is the threat of LTE, which is truly a race-to-the-bottom. Why would a wired entity invest in cable or fiber upgrades if they can't charge a market price?

NeoandGeo

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Harrison, TN NeoandGeo Member . So ISPs like booting customers and getting no money from them? Interesting.



Skittles16

@cox.net Skittles16 Anon Meter? Does AZ have a bandwidth meter? where?



Thanks folks!



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BUCKEYECOM

@buckeyecom.net BUCKEYECOM Anon Re: contract If you don't have a contract there is no need to break it. Plus knowing up front will not get you anywhere. And it states in their TOS/AUP the limit.



bobgwen

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Bartow, FL bobgwen Member Desire to educate user???? It's all about these companies wanting to suck and suck all the money they can out of people. How high can your monthly bill go before consumers have had enough. What can people do for internet or tv if your local company is the only one in town?



PhoenixAZ

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Phoenix, AZ PhoenixAZ Premium Member Re: Desire to educate user???? Pretty much we all must turn Amish for awhile.



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cheetor2000

@suddenlink.net cheetor2000 Anon Glad im no longer on cox Im glad that suddenlink bought out cox in my area in Texas, as I never had a problem really since cox left.



KrK

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Tulsa, OK KrK Premium Member It's just a sign of the times The USA racing to the bottom, destroyed from within by greed, corruption and apathy.

openbox9

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71144 openbox9 Premium Member Re: It's just a sign of the times You're right. All these companies care about are myopic investors looking to run the companies into the ground in favor of short term gains...oh wait, Cox is a privately held company. So it's not just those evil public equity owners.



KrK

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Tulsa, OK KrK Premium Member Re: It's just a sign of the times They do it because they can. Corruption and greed preventing competition and progress.



Period.



Oh_No

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Chicago, IL Oh_No Member What a Joke!! LOL.

These people are smoking crack.

Hey, lets block paying customers actually using the service as some kind of pathetic attempt to stop online video competition.



Unrestricted internet 1995-2011



BUCKEYECOM

@buckeyecom.net BUCKEYECOM Anon Re: What a Joke!! The caps have been published on that site Karl has linked for several months and Cox always stated they had a cap of 200gigs on their standard package. Be glad that each package has its own caps instead of Comcast's 200gigs for ALL packages on Residential.

davidhoffman

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Warner Robins, GA davidhoffman Premium Member Re: What a Joke!! I wish data rates and usage were separate items. I could buy a certain connection rate in Mbs for X dollars and a certain amount of usage in GBs for Y dollars. If I want to double or triple my usage I could pay double or triple the Y amount. So I could have a slow 4Mbps connection for $15/month and 1,000 GBs of usage for $100. or I could have a fast 24Mbps connection for $45/month and 100 GBs of usage for $10.

BiggA

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Central CT BiggA Premium Member Unfair Any kind of booting is unfair. In order to manage the last mile, DOCSIS systems need to cap, but they should just kick in selective throttling after that. Fair for all.



BUCKEYECOM

@buckeyecom.net BUCKEYECOM Anon Re: Unfair And why does DSL have caps as well? It's basically the same technology just combined at different points. DSL is at the DSLAM at the CO/RT or VARD. Cable is just at the neighborhood. DSL is limited in speeds with the more you put on it- you can keep adding line cards and sell 200 people 24/2 on a single shared connection - FracT3 and can max it out. just like with DOCSIS. Time to stop saying its just Cable that has to do this when we've seen T do it with DSL and so does the Canadian providers.

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BiggA Premium Member Re: Unfair There is no legitimate reason DSL is capped, since they can always bring more bandwidth to the CO. AT&T and others are WRONG to cap.



Cable, OTOH, while they have the ability to bring unlimited bandwidth to the node, there's only a certain amount of capacity on the last-mile coax. However, it would be nice to see 1ghz cable systems, as some boxes can only go up to 860, so that last 140mhz could be all DOCSIS 3 channels, which should eliminate the issue.

gravesg

join:2006-12-21

San Antonio, TX gravesg Member wheres verizon ..cox has a stranglehold on my market c'mon verizon bring that fios to my city PLZ i'll grab ur top tier packege



ikyuaoki

join:2011-04-12

Wichita, KS ikyuaoki Member Data management I guess, I'm were right what about it goes be happens, yet there is no reason that people gets angry about it and too bad if they are angry with it, simplely, they can leave out of service and find another an ISP out there, If they are not managing the data traffics so well.