genderbitch:

lucypaw:

tonidorsay: does tony d’orsay not realize we all don’t care she’s a dude? gaynotqueer: bugbrennan: genderbitch: tonidorsay: bugbrennan: genderbitch: tonidorsay: Had to correct bug’s little tiny error. I mean, no fucking shit, sherlock. Its the whole bullshit thing about how guys grope trans women (that you literally do not understand) when they do so that’s the problem.



Of course, that we might be concerned with sexism’s abuse in that way doesn’t seem to occur to you, given that you think men *should* be groping us.



Rapey bullshit from you, Bug. With all the stalking rapey crap Bug does and says, I still maintain she secretly sexually fetishizes trans women and wants to bang all of us. Which is gross because bigots are just not attractive at all. Eww, gross. Kinsey, make a video of yourself so we can all see how female you are. I’ve met Tony in person, so I already know about that. PS - Tony, I actually *don’t* think that, along with many other things you attribute to me in your perverted little mind. It’s like you all have conversations with yourselves. Your language is what I use to establish that, Bug. It isn’t my perverted little mind (by the way, perverted, really? Me?), its decades of expereince and sociology that indicates such.



Some of your statements require presuppositions, and that’s ignoring the logical fallacies and the outright lies you use. Bug, I’m not gonna provide you with masturbation material. Just, no. Creepy old chaser cis lady. My girl cock is not yours for the taking and it never will be. Eww, please keep talking, all this rapey talk you guys do is helpful. Although nauseating. Gross. What a creep. I don’t know about that.



Bug’s no more creepy than the usual person. On the other hand, since you tagged this post as regarding me, personally, I am rather curious as to what basis you use for establishing creepiness and “perversion” (technically, it would inversion, but that’s a term that’s out of favor in common parlance today, so eh).



Mostly the creepiness.



After all, the sum total of my additions to the above are:

Had to correct bug’s little tiny error. I mean, no fucking shit, sherlock. Its the whole bullshit thing about how guys grope trans women (that you literally do not understand) when they do so that’s the problem.



Of course, that we might be concerned with sexism’s abuse in that way doesn’t seem to occur to you, given that you think men *should* be groping us.



Rapey bullshit from you, Bug. And Your language is what I use to establish that, Bug. It isn’t my perverted little mind (by the way, perverted, really? Me?), its decades of expereince and sociology that indicates such.



Some of your statements require presuppositions, and that’s ignoring the logical fallacies and the outright lies you use. Now, it might just be me, but I am very interested in what about either of those two things is “creepy” or “perverted”.



It is fine with me if you consider reasonable actions creepy and perverted — after all, your lack of familiarity with such might tend to create a sense of wrongness about people actually being upfront and direct.



Do be aware that I do know what I’m talking about, as its kinda sorta my field, and I kinda sorta spent a lot of years learning about it and I kinda sorta really can tell you are only partially and vaguely familiar with some of the stuff you include in your comments.



I’m still trying to work out how trans women complaining about how bugbrennan and others saying that trans women *should* be groped and raped by cis men (News Flash: It Happens Already All the Damn Time) is ‘rapey talk’. I mean, I could see it if they meant that it’s trans women talking about rape and sexual assault, but, no, they mean it’s about trans women wanting to rape people. Which is showed by… how they don’t want to be raped and sexually assaulted (again, like they already are). Uhm, what? (Actually, bugbrennan in this conversation reminds me of man I know who keeps going on about feminists hating on poly as they talk about how they’re poly. Including how he thinks it’s ‘helpful’ and showing how they hate poly. It’s the same wtf logic.)

Well considering they like to claim that our bodies themselves are rape and don’t actually understand what rape means, it’s probably pretty terrifying for them to be shown that we do know what it means, we’ve experienced it and their actions constitute those of a rape culture.

That puts them in the same zone as the douchebro MRAs, who’s apathy regarding women (cis or trans) being raped and their contributions to that rape culture is legendary. Likewise, what radscum really wants to deal with the fact that they are the same as their most hated enemies in the most hated of ways due to their apathy regarding trans women being raped (by cis women too, not just men) and their contributions to that rape culture.

And I do like to joke that Bug is attracted to me and a creeper stalker but really, regardless of the actual reasons for it (no doubt she just hates that she can’t dox me on her little hate site, it must be enraging to face off with someone who has insulated herself against that sort of violence mongering) she still is a creepy rapey stalker.

Just look at the utterly creepy obsession with our genitals, sexual practices and likewise. Amplified so much more in cisfuck radscum than in most cis people (with the exception of heterosexist, cissexist cisfuck men, especially MRAs who obsess over our genitals and sexual practices just as much as radscum). All of that represents a disturbing dehumanization with sexual undertones to it. The erogenous zones of our bodies, our bodies themselves and our sexual involvements are things she feels she deserves access to.

It doesn’t get more rapey than that. That sort of dominating need to control and gain access to bodies is pretty much the way rape culture works and the main justifications for rape. No doubt, many radscum and cisbian types (quite possibly even Bug, wouldn’t surprise me) have sexually assaulted trans women (the crotch grab, the breast squeeze). It doesn’t matter that their interest isn’t sexual because rapists often aren’t sexually interested either. After all, what you wear doesn’t change if you get raped. It’s about how our bodies are worth less than their need for access, control and their problems and issues.

Everything she says and does is rape culture in shitty butch haircut and pants suit lawyer form. And I think that deep down inside she recognizes that and that’s why she responds so violently to it being called out.

Similar for all other radscum and cisbians.