Anonymous said: That endgaem post about Mugabe is ticking me off because 1) it's not actually racism any more than native Americans evicting and prohibiting white landowners is. 2) it's exactly like a Native American finally gaining the political power to evict white landowners which is completely justified 3) his policies as a dictator are completely irrelevant to that. it's all bullshit being misrepresented by anti-sj so they can "call out" "she" in non-existent arguments.

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modernsponge:

SERIOUSLY THO. And they’re supposedly black as well? Damn shame. They made me hella mad spending so much time trying to defend the people who have oppressed us for so long. Why are they trying so hard to make their own people seem like we’re the wrong ones for wanting things to change? It’s fucking disgusting.

I’m disgusting for thinking barring people from owning land for the colour of their skin is wrong? How is that not racism?

It’s not even like Mugabe said “white people who got the land by means of colonialism/at the expense of Native black Zimbabweans should give it up”, he just banned anyone who happens to be white from owning land. Not only that, he said they should leave.

Colonialism in Zimbabwe happened 120 years ago, in the 1880s. The people that are being told to leave aren’t even the people who took the land from black people, they are descendants who didn’t choose to be born or grow up there. I could understand if he was telling white farmers to leave, say, 5-10 years after colonization and it’s actually the people who took over the land that he was evicting, but the white people currently on that land are not guilty of anything but being born where they were. It would be the equivalent of a Native American’s great, great-granddaughter going into somebody’s house and ordering the children out and barring them from returning, because her ancestors used to own that land.

That would only be justified if you believe in generational sin, because that is exactly what you are arguing; that the children have inherited the sins of their forefathers, and therefore must face “justice” for them. Except it isn’t justice. It’s a simple-minded, juvenile concept and brushes over the multitude of variables, happenings and lives that it impacts.

Putting the race aspect aside, though, you’d have to be an idiot to pretend that banning white farmers from the land is in any way beneficial or in the interest of the people, as the land seizures from white-owned farmers in the past cost Zimbabwe $12 billion U.S. dollars over the course of a decade.

Riddle me this, modernsponge; Is it the white farmers currently working the land in Zimbabwe that are oppressing you? No? Then how the fuck am I “defending the people who have oppressed us” by saying that banning an entire race from owning land is a terrible move? I would be arguing this if it was black people being banned, hispanics being banned, asians being banned. Banning someone from doing something because of the colour of their skin is inarguably a racist decision. Even by the power+prejudice definition.

I also find it funny how you can manage to make me seem like a big bad wolf by wording your argument as if it was just “black people wanting things to change” and I was disagreeing with that.

There is nothing wrong with wanting change. Nothing at all. But this isn’t the way to go about it. You should really stop pretending his decision was in any way intelligent, because even putting aside the social aspect, economically it was a terrible move. Losing over 10 billion dollars in economic growth, regardless of one’s intentions, is a shitty result.

The land is not “black land” any more than it is “white land”. It’s land that was historically taken from the black people who owned it, which we can both agree was terrible and shouldn’t have happened, but it is what happened, and that cannot be changed, not even by “reclaiming” it over a century later. For one, as I already stated, it has and will do more harm than good for the country, and secondly it comes off as nothing more than a petty comeuppance.

That’s really as much as I have to say on the matter.