PG: That reminds me of something you said lately, Mr. President — that Jesus would be fine with gay marriage. It builds on the same kind of neighborly love Jackie was talking about.

JC: Christ habitually reached out to the downtrodden and the outcast. That was the whole pattern of his ministry. Of course, Jesus never said anything about gay marriage in the Bible, but I believe he would be amenable to the union of two people who loved each other and didn’t hurt anyone else. On the other hand, I have never believed that Jesus would be in favor of abortion, unless it was the result of rape or incest, or the mother’s life was in danger. That’s been the only conflict I’ve had in my career between political duties and Christian faith.

PG: But even on abortion, you focused on reducing the need for them, not screaming on Fox News about constitutional amendments outlawing them — or gay marriage, like we have now.

JC: Fortunately, there was no Fox News when I was president.

JW: We were in San Francisco for the American Library Association ceremonies when the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage came down. And let me tell you, it was insane. People were so excited. There was a parade, and so much going on. Of course, my kids were just mortified that their moms might now get married and embarrass them even more.

JC: No one is going to make you get married. At least, not the government.

JW: My kids are growing up in a world where they’re like: Of course, marriage equality is the case. When my son went to kindergarten, he wore a tie. And someone said to him, “You look just like the president.” How amazing! To live in a time when a black boy can look like the president.

PG: Who knows? He might grow up to be another Jimmy Carter.