During a one-on-one with CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Wednesday night, President Donald Trump‘s lawyer Rudy Giuliani claimed he’s “never said there was no collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russia.

“Mr. Mayor, false reporting is saying that nobody in the campaign had any contacts with Russia,” Cuomo pressed. “False reporting is saying that there has been no suggestion of any kind of collusion between the campaign and any Russians. Because now you have Paul Manafort giving poll data that winds up leading to this coincidence.”

“Well, you just misstated my position. I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or between people in the campaign,” Giuliani shot back.

“Yes, you have,” Cuomo shot back.

“I said the President of the United States,” Giuliani insisted. “There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC.”

The debate then turned to if President Donald Trump said “nobody” on the campaign colluded.

“He didn’t say nobody!” Giuliani insisted, saying rather Trump said he didn’t collude.

Cuomo insisted he did.

By the way, here is video of President Donald Trump saying there was “no collusion, no anything” in November 2018.

Trump: There was no collusion, no anything from CNBC.

The President has also repeatedly taken to Twitter to demand that there was “no collusion” — a total of 13 times according to CNN’s count.

Here is the latest time, which was just last month:

“Democrats can’t find a Smocking Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey’s testimony. No Smocking Gun…No Collusion.” @FoxNews That’s because there was NO COLLUSION. So now the Dems go to a simple private transaction, wrongly call it a campaign contribution,… — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 10, 2018

Watch above, via CNN.

Have a tip we should know? [email protected]