Incoming chief White House strategist Steve Bannon has a plan.

“Like [Andrew] Jackson’s populism, we’re going to build an entirely new political movement,” he told the Hollywood Reporter in an interview published Friday. “It’s everything related to jobs. The conservatives are going to go crazy.”

He continued:

I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution—conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.

We’re not sure quite what he means by “as exciting as the 1930s”—the time of the Great Depression and when Hitler rose to power in Germany—but it’s still a plan. That plan is apparently to take the infrastructure and economic agenda that Republicans have stymied Barack Obama from implementing for the past six years because, they claimed, it would wreck the deficit, and get Republicans to implement it now. It’s not unlike how past Republican politicians have treated deficit spending—they howl like banshees about its dangers when Democrats are in office and spend like drunken sailors when they take power.

So, that’s the plan. Where does the evidence that he’s an anti-Semite who ran a white nationalist and misogynist propaganda network fit into this plan? And how does he think it will pan out?

I’m not a white nationalist, I’m a nationalist. I’m an economic nationalist. The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f—ed over. If we deliver, we’ll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we’ll govern for 50 years. That’s what the Democrats missed. They were talking to these people with companies with a $9 billion market cap employing nine people. It’s not reality. They lost sight of what the world is about.

Interesting! Fifty years of power. In the hands of Bannon-ism. That doesn’t sound too grandiose.

Is there any chance that the man who spent many years building up a network of alt-right trolls under his umbrella at Breitbart might be trolling people now?

Darkness is good … Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power. It only helps us when they get it wrong. When they’re blind to who we are and what we’re doing.

Hmm. They, according to author Michael Wolff, is the media. He’s going to use the dark powers of Vader, Satan, and Cheney. Or the media is going to portray him like those mythical figures. And he’ll gain power from it! Again, it’s a plan.

How else does he feel about the media, though?

The media bubble is the ultimate symbol of what’s wrong with this country. It’s just a circle of people talking to themselves who have no f—ing idea what’s going on. If The New York Times didn’t exist, CNN and MSNBC would be a test pattern. The Huffington Post and everything else is predicated on The New York Times. It’s a closed circle of information from which Hillary Clinton got all her information—and her confidence. That was our opening.

What about the conservative, but not ethno-nationalist, media entity Fox News?

They got it more wrong than anybody. Rupert [Murdoch] is a globalist and never understood Trump. To him, Trump is a radical. Now they’ll go centrist and build the network around Megyn Kelly.

The Megyn Kelly who says Fox News had to explain to a Trump henchman why it would be bad for the then-candidate’s campaign if she was killed? Excellent.

So, to conclude, what does Bannon think of his boss, the president-elect, who is no way under the thrall of an anti-Semitic, homophobic, xenophobic, racist, sycophantic yes man?

You have probably the greatest orator since William Jennings Bryan, coupled with an economic populist message and two political parties that are so owned by the donors that they don’t speak to their audience.

It’s going to be a fun four years, everyone!