by Ann Garrison

KPFA Weekend News broadcast Oct. 3, 2015

KPFA spoke to Father Thomas Nahimana and the U.S. State Department about accusations that Rwanda is training rebels to engage in cross border attacks to destabilize Burundi.

Transcript

KPFA Weekend News Anchor Sharon Sobotta: Burundian Foreign Minister Nyamitwe has accused neighboring Rwanda of training rebels to destabilize Burundi with cross border attacks. Rwandan President Paul Kagame responded that the Burundian president was simply trying to distract people from his own problems, but Carina Tertsakian, a Human Rights Watch researcher in Burundi, confirmed the foreign minister’s accusation.

Speaking to the Associated Press, Tertsakian said: “There is definitely an anti-Nkurunziza armed group that has been formed already. These people have been hanging out in Rwanda for several months now. We believe it is happening.”

KPFA’s Ann Garrison spoke to Father Thomas Nahimana, a Rwandan priest who plans to challenge President Paul Kagame in the 2017 election.

KPFA/Ann Garrison: What do you think about the unrest now, between Rwanda and Burundi?

Father Thomas Nahimana: I know and I think at the same time that Rwanda tries to destabilize Burundi now. They send their men into Burundi and that’s not good. We are for peaceful relations between ​neighbor countries – Burundi, Congo and Tanzania. And Uganda.

I do not know why Kagame has always to launch wars in that region. That must stop quickly because what Kagame is doing in Burundi is not good. And he wants – Kagame wants to provoke a genocide in Burundi.

KPFA: It looks, to anybody who’s been following along, that it could be a replay in which there are both Hutu and Tutsi massacres, but only the Tutsi massacres are reported, and then Kagame has a justification for invading Burundi – or occupying Burundi.

Nahimana: Yeah, we have read that in newspapers, because as it stands nowadays, Kagame and his team want to provoke a genocide in Burundi in order to put in power in Burundi the same group as the group which is in Rwanda. Everybody can see that. It is not complicated to see.

KPFA: And you’re actually afraid that Pierre Nkurunziza, the president of Burundi, is likely to be assassinated?

Nahimana: He could be assassinated. It is possible. When they assassinate the chief who was in charge of his security, when they try to assassinate the chief of staff of the army, it is possible also to assassinate Pierre Nkurunziza. But it would be a very big scandal and a catastrophe for our region, I think.

KPFA: Yes. We can’t explain all of this, but this would be the fourth Hutu president assassinated in this region since 1993.

Nahimana: Yes, yes, that’s it.

KPFA: And that was Father Thomas Nahimana on the current conflict between Rwanda and Burundi.

KPFA also asked the U.S. State Department to comment, given the longstanding alliance and military partnership between the U.S. and Rwanda. Spokeswoman Katy Bondi responded: “We remain deeply concerned by reports of recruitment of Burundian refugees at camps in Rwanda for possible military training. We have asked the Rwandan government to investigate these reports and to hold accountable those responsible for unlawful conduct.”

In other words, the State Department said that it had asked the Rwandan government to investigate itself.

In Berkeley, for Pacifica, KPFA and AfrobeatRadio, I’m Ann Garrison.

Oakland writer Ann Garrison writes for the San Francisco Bay View, Black Agenda Report, Black Star News, Counterpunch and her own website, Ann Garrison, and produces for AfrobeatRadio on WBAI-NYC, KPFA Evening News, KPFA Flashpoints and for her own YouTube Channel, AnnieGetYourGang. She can be reached at anniegarrison@gmail.com. In March 2014 she was awarded the Victoire Ingabire Umuhoza Democracy and Peace Prize for promoting peace in the Great Lakes Region of Africa through her reporting.