(ANTIMEDIA) — Donna Brazille, former interim chair of the Democratic National Committee, called Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign a “cult” while speaking with Joe Scarborough on MSNBC Wednesday morning.

Scarborough asked Brazille her opinion on why she believed the Clinton campaign ultimately lost to Trump: “Why did they lose? Was it at the end of the day arrogance?”

“It was a cult,” Brazile said. “I felt like it was a cult. You could not penetrate them.”

Brazille went on to refer to herself as a “grassroots organizer.”

“I know how to touch people where they live, work, play and pray,” she said.

“I cannot help a candidate if I don’t have the resources, if I cannot spend the resources that the party is raising.”

It was revealed earlier this week that Brazille put “patriot” Seth Rich on a list of people she included in the dedications of her new book, Hacks: The Inside Story of the Break-ins and Breakdowns That Put Donald Trump in the White House.

Seth Rich was a former DNC staffer who was murdered in the early morning hours of July 10, 2016, under mysterious circumstances. Some have speculated that he may have been involved in the leaks that plagued the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign during the 2016 presidential election cycle. His death still remains unsolved.

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