It can be argued that there’s a certain type of “autumnal aggression” that bubbles up as soon as fall starts rolling in, and it isn’t hard to understand why. The trees start to change color! It’s cozy jacket weather! And there are hot beverages aplenty!! Can you blame people for getting obsessed?

Perhaps the most popular fall drink on planet Earth—you know, besides water—is Starbucks’ pumpkin spice latte. There’s a whole culture surrounding PSLs because they’re just that freakin’ good. But when you’re Mayor Pete Buttigieg and you’re on the campaign trail, the idea of inhaling a venti-sized PSL doesn’t exactly tickle your fancy.

During a fun visit to Cosmopolitan HQ for the Candidates Come to Cosmo series, Pete answered some of our most pressing, silly, non-presidency-related questions and revealed that he isn’t crazy about pumpkin spice lattes. Who knew?

Our Editor-in-Chief Jessica Pels asked Pete, “What is your Starbucks order?” likely wondering if it’d be something festive. Pete is an interesting man, after all! “So what does he drink then?” you ask. “A tall black coffee,” he said.

Somehow I’m not surprised though—it seems fitting for a presidential candidate to run on liquid gasoline! At least we can all take comfort in the fact that he has tried the PSL, though, and that his husband Chasten Buttigieg is alllll for them.

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“Chasten is all about the pumpkin spice lattes. I’m not anti, it’s just not my—I know it’s a boring answer, but I just, black coffee,” Pete said. “Maybe an espresso sometimes if I’m feeling really like I want to mix it up.”

So there you have it—Pete Buttigieg is not obsessed with PSLs...sorry! But if you still want more Pete, including deets on his TV obsessions, junk food, and skincare routine, check out the rest of Cosmo’s rapid-fire Qs with the mayor below.

Jessica Pels: I can’t let you go without just a few minutes of fun. So are you ready for our rapid-fire round?

Pete Buttigieg: Am I? Let’s find out.

Jessica Pels: As ready as you’ll ever be. How many alarms do you set in the morning?

Pete Buttigieg: These days, just once. Just one.

Jessica Pels: Wow. I’m, like, a three-alarm person.

Pete Buttigieg: I’m a multiple snooze person, but the one alarm will do the trick.

Jessica Pels: Okay, alright. What is your Starbucks order?

Pete Buttigieg: A tall black coffee.

Jessica Pels: Have you ever had a pumpkin spice latte?

Pete Buttigieg: I have. Chasten is all about the pumpkin spice lattes. I’m not anti, it’s just not my—I know it’s a boring answer, but I just, black coffee. Maybe an espresso sometimes if I’m feeling really like I want to mix it up.

Jessica Pels: What is your Moon sign?

Pete Buttigieg: [Whispers] What’s a Moon sign?

Jessica Pels: So your Moon sign is Virgo. We ran your birth chart before you got here. We’ll send it home with you. And it means that you love structure and find satisfaction in helping others.

Pete Buttigieg: That sounds about right.

Jessica Pels: Great—astrology for the win. What is your guilty pleasure TV obsession?

Pete Buttigieg: Oh…there’s not enough time for me to have an obsession ’cause I can’t binge-watch like I used to. I’m getting into Succession. I’m struggling with it because I need somebody to root for and I’m not sure I’ve figured that out yet.

Jessica Pels: How far into it are you?

Pete Buttigieg: I’m just getting into the second season....

Jessica Pels: Huh.

Pete Buttigieg: Don’t spoil me here! Shiv is showing a lot of promise…um, alright. I’m just going to stop here so I don’t get spoiled. But yeah, I definitely enjoy that.

Jessica Pels: Love it. Okay, we’ll let you watch it without spoiling the rest. Who is your best friend and how did you meet?

Pete Buttigieg: Wow. I have some really good friends that I hesitate to, like, name one of them as best. The answer is supposed to be your spouse, obviously, and he’s the most important person in my life, but also, in a way, it’s different from what I think a lot of us think of when we think “best friend.” The best man at my wedding, his name is Nathaniel. He and I go back to college days. He’s really involved in international development and he has a knack for convincing me to go on adventures. We went to Somalia once as tourists, which, turns out, there are some reasons why people don’t do that, which we found when we got there. But he’s just been a great friend. During the coming-out process, he was somebody who was really there for me and somebody I can turn to among just a bunch of really fantastic friends in my life.

Jessica Pels: That’s amazing. I’m sure you don’t get to see them as much as you wish you did right now because you’re on the road. What is your favorite junk food?

Pete Buttigieg: Oh, does beef jerky count as junk food?

Jessica Pels: Yes! I love beef jerky.

Pete Buttigieg: But it’s kind of nutritious, right? It’s all protein.

Jessica Pels: It’s protein. Yes. It’s not horrible for you. A little high on sodium, but you could do worse.

Pete Buttigieg: We’re going to go with that.

Jessica Pels: Okay. What is the most Midwest thing about you?

Pete Buttigieg: Oh, interesting. The fact that all my shirts are the same kind of shirt, maybe?

Jessica Pels: You open your closet and it’s just all button-downs.

Pete Buttigieg: It is. It’s white shirts.

Jessica Pels: Yeah, I think that counts. Do you have a Halloween costume?

Pete Buttigieg: Oh, no. That’s coming up, isn’t it?

Jessica Pels: Next Thursday.

Pete Buttigieg: Really?

Jessica Pels: Yeah.

Pete Buttigieg: Wow. No, I guess I’ll just go as Mayor Pete.

Jessica Pels: That’s a good one. And our now-famous question: What is your skincare routine?

Pete Buttigieg: Um, I take a shower every day. I use soap.

Jessica Pels: On your face?

Pete Buttigieg: Yeah, a little bit.

Jessica Pels: Okay....

Pete Buttigieg: Is that bad?

Jessica Pels: Eh, it’s drying.

Pete Buttigieg: Ah, right. I shave. Sometimes I use aftershave. This is probably not the answer that you were looking for—

Jessica Pels: Do you moisturize?

Pete Buttigieg: Occasionally. Aftershave counts, right?

Jessica Pels: No. Right? No, it doesn’t.

Pete Buttigieg: But, like, the lotion type that you kind of rub in there?

Jessica Pels: No. No. You’re supposed to moisturize. You’re running a campaign for president. I’m running a campaign for getting men to moisturize.

Pete Buttigieg: Alright. I’ll try to moisturize more.

Jessica Pels: We’ll send you home with some of that too.

Pete Buttigieg: Sounds good.

Jessica Pels: Thank you so much for being here today. This was awesome.

Pete Buttigieg: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

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