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theoreticalwitchcraft: vart-lucin: thisiswhiteculture: clarknokent: cooolasssluusshhh: lavishvia: ibadbitch: messymessymia: messymessymia: Fact. This post has gotten me a lot of hate mail lmaoooo Hahaha😭 this ain’t a lie thou LMFAOOOO Deadass and for you crackers about to come in about italian food, know that pasta didn’t originate in italy. and if you want to talk about spanish food, know that that cuisine was inspired by african and middle eastern cuisine. white food is trash unless they have stolen a part of their cusine from PoC who do it right What is this post like not only are those pics and captions reductive and hilarious the commentary makes it even more ridiculous like most ‘cuisines’ (yes including the italian and spanish one or whatever you were referencing) had formed much before (or at least have a basis on) the modern concept of ‘whiteness’ and race were invented and do you think these weird metacuisines you were posting have never been ‘inspired’ by others or there wasnt even blatant lifting or just simple sharing or ‘appropriationz’ amongst and within those cuisines like seriously stop yourself and calm down lmaaao Look at all the shit Spaniards and Southern Italians appropriated from the middle eastern people who occupied and ruled those territories for centuries Oh isn’t it just the most precious thing when SJWs think they know about world cuisine? Several things. 1. That hispanic cuisine? I see a big ol’ dish of Paella there. Paella is a spanish dish, and us Mediterraneans are very much white. Not only is it a Spanish dish, it’s considered to be the national dish of spain. 2. Asian cuisine? Gee and here was me thinking that Africa and Asia were massive continents with a huge assortment of nations, cultures, ethnicities, tribes and other groups. So are you telling me that Indian food tastes the same as Vietnamese food and that Iranian food tastes the same as Chinese food which tastes the same as Korean food which is interchangable with Japanese food which doesn’t taste very different from Thai or food from the Phillipines? Precious. I mean you’ve made a half arsed attempt to separate the Middle East from the rest of Asia… but barely. Because I’m sure Iranian and Arabic food tastes the same. Yeah. 3. Not only do you fuckwits seem painfully ignorant of Dishes of Colour (lol) you seem painfully ignorant of Europe (but we are dealing with Tumblrinas, who for all their self-praise about how enlightened and socially aware they are, have about as much knoweldge of anywhere outside Murrica as your average cartoon redneck) Ukranian Pierogis Paella, Spain’s national dish Italian Gelato Brighton Sausage Rolls: the company, Pig n Mix lets you have all sorts of flavours, from rosemary and bacon to apple and apricot French pastries Traditional British sweetshop Still life from the 17th Century “Look at all the shit Spaniards and Southern Italians appropriated from the middle eastern people who occupied and ruled those territories for centuries” So let me get this straight. You can “culturally appropriate” even when you are a conquered people? “Like how fucking dare those italians steal food when they got conquered fucking whitey how dare they btw when whitey colonised shit they FORCED their customs on us but when we conquer whitey THEY APPROPRIATE” Oh and “European food is shit unless they stole it from PoC fact everything that tastes good in Europe was literally stolen from PoC” Got any sauces for those claims, or is it because you are so pathetically insecure about yourselves that you need to tell yourselves shit so you don’t have to feel guilty about cramming your gullets full of Dominos like cuckoos? You know what? I’m actually done with you fucking morons because all of you are so stupid, and ignorant of anything outside your little bubble of 21st Century Murrica that it’s obvious all of you are fucking lost causes. 20 bucks says you fuckwits carry on cackling about “omg white cuisine” even as you guzzle down stale pastries and bastardised attempts at Italian food like your lives depend on it.

I’m so fucking tired of people in this site acting like they are the sole bearers of knowledge, when in fact they are ignorant fuckwits who can only make sensationalistic claims (without any backup) trying to be hip.

I’m going to talk about italian cuisine, because I’m italian and I dislike talking out of my ass, unlike your lot.

1) as the post before brillantly said, how consistent, accusing mediterranean europeans of appropriating north african or levantine dishes, when at that point in time we were the conquered ones, the one sold as slaves in the galleys and fighting to retain their territories. The oppressed can appropriate too? Then the next time I see a POC eating a pizza I can reclaim it and tell him/her to check his privilege?

2) cuisine is not a one way street. There has always been and will always be contamination, exchange and mutual influence. If we want to make a “who first used it” schtick, without the Greeks and Romans the spread of olive oil,red wine, bread made from wheat (in Egypt was used a type of emmer) would have been impossible or greatly impaired. Plus the idea of a free-standing oven that could be pre-heated with a door was Greek. Lastly, the laganum, ancestor of modern day lasagnE, was a Latin dish.

3)Pasta is not only fucking spaghetti, you undeducated twat.There are more than 300 types of pasta originating from Italy (and that’s only for the dried variety).

Plus spaghetti weren’t “stolen” by Marco Polo (1254-1324), that’s a fable that little children get told, fact is, since the 1.100s (AD) the Arabs started to bring and manifacture a type of dried noodles (borrowed from the Chinese thanks to trade) in Sicily. So please, carry your cahiers de doléances away from the Ebil West.

Furthermore, for the fresh variery, itrion, a compund made from flour and water and boiled was used by the Greeks and Romans (according to Galen), so the origins of modern day pasta are a lot more complex and variegated than “lol a withey explorer stole it”.

As for composition, pasta is made from unleavened dough of a durum wheat flour mixed with water, whereas in most East Asian countries noodles of rice are relatively more common.



4)It’s true that tomatoes, choccolate, coffee and potatoes were brought from the Americas, but there is a underliyng problem with this is kind of razionalization: the provenience of a certain seed or vegetable doesn’t substract from the creation or evolution of dishes operated by new cultures. Just because barley was first cultivated in the Fertile Crescent, does it mean that Kashk can’t be part of the regional Cuisines of Turkish, Iranian and other Asiatic People? Plus, some points to consider:

a. most of the meat and spices typical of modern day hispanic cuisine come from Europeans (especially Spaniards), since there were no bovines, equines and suines in Americas at the time. So we have a two way street, as always.

b. tomato sauce was widespread in Europe, but the pasta-sauce combination was codified in Italy in the 1700, the espresso brewery process was invented by italian Angelo Moriondo and sweetened choccolate was used first by Europeans.

Don’t get me started on the different uses of tomatoes or potatoes in european national cuisine. Modern day pastry derives mainly from the various european cuisines.

Now I’m gonna stop, because, as you love to say, you need to educate yourself before speaking about any argument.

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