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replace my old 34D after finding my ABTF size, I tried at least 8 other popular t-shirt bras and even tried different sizes. All of the Freya Decos, CK, Wacoal, a few Panache, Parisa Fe, Chantelle....every single one smushed me flat or squeezed me in/out and plus did some other horrid thing, like orange in a glass or quadding. The gore did not tack in a single one of them and it looked like half my torso was a uniform broad tall wide undefined bulge. Apparently (or so I was told by the lingerie salesperson) that is the 'American look', and yes you see it everywhere, don't you? For research purposes, I tried a number of sizes in the 4510, and my opinion is that the band is true to size with very little stretch but the cups run a tad off. Since the moulded shape is so firm, you can get away with going either way. The 32FF gapped a little in the center, the 30FF was tight in the band and skewed the wires a bit, the 32F has a bit of space at the bottom, the 34F had a little too much cup to the sides - but all were wearable under clothes and totally comfortable. Plus! In the 4510 I have two breasts that I can be proud of! Projected & close-set ladies, listen up! Try the 4510. It may be the beginning of a long and rewarding relationship! For reference: 32F/FF; narrow, close & high-set, even 2/5 shape, average root height, immediate projection.