Hi,I am myself afraid of this email, because this is about the basis of thecommunity, distributions, plans for foundation etc... Any change in regardsto all things outlined here will be controversial and will have huge influenceon the future of openSUSE as a whole. Take this very seriously, but also don'ttake it too seriously because it doesn't change the way community operates,but instead how it ends up being represented.As mentioned in my talk week ago, I would like to change the openSUSE logoto break it off of SUSE branding, however as Richard rightfully pointed out,the suggestion should also mention changing the name of community anddistributions, to remove the `SUSE` part of `openSUSE`, on top of a few otherissues that are unrelated to foundation talks. [1,2]We do need to tackle this now, considering we are going through vital partsof the talks of the Foundation, and both trademarks are planned to betransferred at some point, but it might be best to start off the foundationwith the name and logo that isn't necessarily tied to SUSE brand for easierlegal proceedings between SUSE and the project, depending on the communityoutlook on the ideas.openSUSE logo issues:* older version of SUSE logo, which is similar enough to be confusing, alsowill require agreement between future openSUSE Foundation and SUSE to use thelogo* colour is too bright and light to stand out well on light backgrounds [3]* button variant looks the same as SUSE logo buttons, with the only exceptionbeing colour (and SUSE tends to use similar green for buttons they haven'tupdated in a long time)For current proposals, and to propose more visit:openSUSE name issues:* contains `SUSE`, which will require agreement between future openSUSEFoundation and SUSE to use the name (we will need this anyway, because we willsupport older releases, but at least there would be some exit strategy wheneverything goes south built into the name of the foundation)* we are endlessly complaining about wrong capitalization (and will for therest of time), even SUSE has it easier with "only" SuSE, SuSe and Suse [4]* FSF complains about `open`, although that works with openness of thecollaboration, more than `free` or `libre` would (not to mention that we dohave non-free repos) [5]There has obviously been a lot of suggestions here, from various contributors,stuff like `Viridian Foundation` works quite well for the purposes of thenaming, because it references SUSE, while not being directly tied to SUSE name(although it might be too generic and hard to type).More important than the name itself however is to decide if we want to changethe logo and/or the name at all, or we want to leave everything as is. If we dodecide for a change there we will be able to choose the name and the logothrough a vote, I or some other designer will just have to design and fix uplogos proposed by the community for the vote (like it was previously done withthe YaST mascot/logo, which looked crude before the redesign, but was a greatcommunity idea). [6][1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgkMlCZiP4 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZmc4CXzFQ [3] https://contrast-ratio.com/#%2373ba25-on-white [4] https://i.imgur.com/ySr4JAA.png [5] https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#openSUSE [6] https://github.com/yast/yast-theme/commit/1cdb9e9c2545ba1604f8bdf88864e9ae9b2e3092 LCP [Stasiek]--To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxTo contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx