The true crime explosion ignited by podcasts like Serial and Netflix’s Making a Murderer has spawned a massive ecosystem of murdery content. One of the biggest and most passionate fandoms on the internet today centers around two funny women and their obsession with real murder headlines–both new and historical.

Their podcast, My Favorite Murder, has 19 million monthly downloads by conservative estimates. And the enormous community that gathers around it (whose members refer to themselves as “Murderinos”) has a storied past full of infighting, fractured Facebook groups, merch gone wrong, and subreddit drama.

This week on 2 Girls 1 Podcast, Alli and Jen (actors who perform weird internet content on stage) talk with u/TinaBelcher4Prez, the moderator of r/MyFavoriteMurder, the unofficial (but largest) subreddit for fans of the show. She explains the broad appeal of the hosts, the grizzly subject matter, and its fascinating connection to mental health awareness. She also explains the fandom’s many factions and controversies which have made listening to the show a roller coaster ride in recent years.

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2 Girls 1 Podcast is hosted by Allison Goldberg and Jennifer Jamula, and is produced and edited by Matt Silverman in New York City. Production assistance is provided by the Podglomerate.