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"[UPDATED] UK Sunday Times: State Dept. Official (Marc Grossman) Outed Plame's 'Brewster Jennings' to Turkish Agents in 2001, According to Sibel Edmonds"

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/26/2008 @ 1:25 pm PT...





Way cool Brad ... that shit has just got to hit the fan ... including the fans of preznit blush and the bushie fiasco gang.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... TomR said on 1/26/2008 @ 1:28 pm PT...





Keep it up Brad. I'll help spread the word about this ongoing saga. - Tom

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... lukery said on 1/26/2008 @ 1:47 pm PT...





I think Brad probably means 7pm Eastern. Can any of the BB eds change that? thnx.

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Pat #1 said on 1/26/2008 @ 1:48 pm PT...





Schweeeeeet!

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/26/2008 @ 2:09 pm PT...





I have been wondering if Murdoch had been compromised to print these stories when the MSM can cover up "legitimately" with intense coverage of the elections. Then I saw they were reporting stories about Britney not having her bra on straight, and other useless bullshit, and decided hell no, there is no legitimate reason on God's green earth for Americans not to know their government has deadly and dangerous spies within it who do not have their best interests at heart. Halliburton moved to the country that supported the Taliban in open public dialogue. Vice Preznit Cheney is welded to Halliburton like a siamese twin. Wake up America, Amurka has planted vicious spies in your blood stream, and you have a disease. Activate the antibodies. Listen to Bradblog. Listen to Americans ... reject the Amurkans!

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 1/26/2008 @ 2:23 pm PT...





You guys seen this dint ya ?

They're in a big hurry to Legalize the nuke black market all of a sudden ? Link

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/26/2008 @ 3:00 pm PT...





Floridiot #6 Good link, Good find! I think the analysis in the link is spot on. Now, since Joe Biden is chair of the Senate committee which preznit blush wrote to, lets find out what Biden is made of. In the past I have had the highest regard for him on foreign policy understanding. He even knows were Iraq and Iran are on a map! (most bushies don't know shit about Iraq and Iran compared to Biden) ... but this has been a year of disappointment when it comes to Senate democrats. (Note however that Sen. Dodd is standing up against the Amurkans on behalf of we Americans on the FISA bill). So I am going to watch it unfold. I remember when we hunted down the military industrial complex's plant, Shawn Whitman, the Lone Certifier of all voting things machines diebold. After that the Butch Custody and the Hoppy Kid thingy don't surprise me much. And that the military industrial complex demons want death and destruction to spread their filthy legs about the planet by hurting decent babes like Valerie and Sibel is no biggie. These Amurkan implants like to brown hose one another and they give new meaning to "brown nosing" don't they my friend? We have all gone to look for America, because it is no where in sight at the moment.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Off the Grid said on 1/26/2008 @ 3:14 pm PT...





#5-We have elections? Since when? "Election" 2008 is more like it. So let me get this right, the above beautiful women have powerful stories about the OBVIOUS CRIMINAL ACTS(like, treason) COMMITTED OR APPROVED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION, and the US media won't touch it with a 10 foot pole. But, the election coverage is legitimate. Agent 99 did you put acid in my coffee?

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Off the Grid said on 1/26/2008 @ 3:23 pm PT...





I think if this story gets coverage you can take all your little $ bills, put 'em a pile, and set those worthless pieces of crap on fire. I think that's where we're at.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... cbears34 said on 1/26/2008 @ 3:36 pm PT...



COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Off the Grid said on 1/26/2008 @ 3:37 pm PT...





?Link? to the story I think...it's dated tomorrow.

Phillip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, said: “It’s pretty clear Plame was targeting the Turks. If indeed that [State Department] official was working with the Turks to violate US law on nuclear exports, it would have been in his interest to alert them to the fact that this woman’s company was affiliated to the CIA. I don’t know if that’s treason legally but many people would consider it to be.”

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/26/2008 @ 3:58 pm PT...





Thanks CBears34 and Off The Grid, that does seem to be the expose Brad was in reference to. My God ... a bomb has gone off ... and for the first time the MSM fear mongers don't notice a bombshell? Very strange voodoo free press methinks.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... cbears34 said on 1/26/2008 @ 4:07 pm PT...





The article includes: "The State Department official said on Friday: “It is impossible to find a strong enough way to deny these allegations which are both false and malicious.” " It does not identify the State Department official by name.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... lukery said on 1/26/2008 @ 4:12 pm PT...





Till Brad becomes available, my take on it is here

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/26/2008 @ 4:15 pm PT...





This funky headline says:

NUKES SAFE FROM CRAZIES (NUKEYOULAR LIES). I nominate that for the biggest lie story of the year, decade, century, etc. Everyone knows that preznit blush and his lil' dick have nukes, and that they are utimate crazy ... i.e. you ain't even seen crazy til you have seen those two. So Pakistan, your assertion is bogus Bogus BOGUS ... you killers of Bhuto! Listen to Valerie and Sibel!!!!

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Off the Grid said on 1/26/2008 @ 4:19 pm PT...





Free Press...reminds me of a song. The corporations have a lot to lose here, no one will believe the sky is falling terrorist are after you, or say Hillary wins. We'll be stuck with the real economy, which has had very little investment in sustainability. Sooner or later... "nothing, honey, nothin' if ani't free"

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... cbears34 said on 1/26/2008 @ 5:04 pm PT...





Who is the 'State Department official' identified in the article? Why does the article use the word 'former' to describe several people involved, but does not refer to a 'former State Department official?' Is the ariticle talking about a current or former State Department official?

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... Off the Grid said on 1/26/2008 @ 5:14 pm PT...





$$$...it's a drag when you look at page #5 (chart is not current, trend is correct), realize this the USDX is at about 76, and gold is over $910 If you're asking what the USDX is...I'm sorry. If you're asking what the USDX is and you have a 401k--> refinance you're doing great. ps-somehow, someway this isn't off topic

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... lukery said on 1/26/2008 @ 5:29 pm PT...





The (former) State Dept official is Marc Grossman

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... cbears34 said on 1/26/2008 @ 8:23 pm PT...





If that's for sure, well, not to bring up stuff that smacks too closely of 'conspiracy theorists' or anything, but a close look at the list of US attendees at the 2007 Bilderberg conference held in Turkey, including Mr. Grossman (and other US attendees), could prove useful. I could go on.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... Dece said on 1/26/2008 @ 8:29 pm PT...





Turkish stuff is probably drugs. Plame probably screwed their operations up if she was involved. She hates DOJDEA because of Ames and her mistakes following up his arrest and getting caught breaking IIPA. Breswter Jennings was a movie 'Brewster's Millions.' Joe was the diplomat and Val the money chasing thing. That's really how they operate. Gross man? He was probably working with us. Sibel was only supposed to translate. She told everyone what she heard and that was the mistake. She wasn't paid to analyze anything. She can't figure that Gross man was spy'n for us? {ED NOTE: "Dece" has previously commented here as "DE". The BRAD BLOG commenting rules clearly state: "1) Pick a user name and stick with it. Do not post under multiple identities." Consider that your friendly warning "Dece/DE". You may also wish to review the other posting rules as well. Thank you. --- BF}

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... Dece said on 1/26/2008 @ 8:47 pm PT...





There were FSB agents workingn out of the FBI NY field office after the WTC bombing. Maybe this guy knows what she found other than the 9/11 bomber. She was allot like Plame: Book> http://www.canada.com/va...9-45f7-83cd-2f5b46c1cf95

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... TomR said on 1/26/2008 @ 8:55 pm PT...





Edmonds draws a picture of a three-sided alliance consisting of Turkish, Pakistani, and Israeli agents who coordinated efforts to milk U.S. nuclear secrets and technology, funneling the intelligence stream to the black market nuclear network set up by the Pakistani scientist A.Q. Khan. The multi-millionaire Pakistani nuclear scientist then turned around and sold his nuclear assets to North Korea, Libya, and Iran. Can someone explain to me why the Neocons on the one hand are afraid of Iran getting nukes and on the other hand playing a role in helping them get nukes? We know the Neocons want to go to war with Iran. Is this all about getting their grubby paws on Iran's oil? What's their end game here? Thanks, - Tom

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... TomR said on 1/26/2008 @ 8:59 pm PT...





FYI - The following preceded the quote above: …this group includes not only Grossman, but also Paul Wolfowitz, chief intellectual architect of the Iraq war and ex-World Bank president; former deputy defense secretary for policy Douglas J. Feith; Feith’s successor, Eric Edelman; and Richard Perle, the notorious uber-neocon whose unique ability to mix profiteering and warmongering forced him to resign his official capacity as a key administration adviser … http://www.dissidentvoic...-nuke-trade-with-turkey/ - Tom

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... elessar said on 1/27/2008 @ 1:07 am PT...





So big, the U.S. media has assigned several extra reporters to begin ignoring it immediately. Sadly true but funny as hell.

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... Mark Jones said on 1/27/2008 @ 4:03 am PT...





Can someone explain to me why the Neocons on the one hand are afraid of Iran getting nukes and on the other hand playing a role in helping them get nukes? We know the Neocons want to go to war with Iran. Is this all about getting their grubby paws on Iran's oil? What's their end game here? Their goal is to perpetuate war, not to prevent war. They are making tons of money off military contracts. My theory is this: they are passing nuclear secrets, full knowing that it will eventually end up in enemy hands. In the hands of the enemy (and after some extent of development) it becomes their much needed green light to pull off exactly what they did to Iraq.

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... molly said on 1/27/2008 @ 6:01 am PT...





This is the motive for exposing Valerie Plame.Damage control. Now they are doing it with legislation again. How long will it take for US to come to grips that our govt. is the biggest terroist organization in the world. Certain congressional reps. should go to the Hague for war crimes. Nancy Pelosi...

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... richard weaver said on 1/27/2008 @ 9:11 am PT...





Voice: 202-863-7200 | Fax: 202-863-7800

those are numbers for the Cohen Group , where MArc Grossman "spy" is employed you can email him at mgrossman@cohengroup.net

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... Bob In Pacifica said on 1/27/2008 @ 9:50 am PT...





If Brewster Jennings was compromised in 2001 it explains why the inner sanctum of the Bushites did not think twice about throwing Plame to the dogs a couple years later. They weren't compromising BJ because it was already compromised. I wonder how much of this was known to SP Patrick Fitzgerald. I wonder if anyone's celebrating "Fitzmas" anymore. To me it's looking like more of the same coverup.

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... Encart said on 1/27/2008 @ 1:29 pm PT...





One thing that frightens me is that Edmonds was transferred and then terminated shortly after she was approached by agents who wanted her to join up in the fun and profits. With so few others coming out to tell the obvious real stories, I have to assume that the rest of those doing the translating got turned, joined up and said "hell with integrity, we'll take the cash."

Does anyone remember a story that came out shortly after the invasion of Iraq about a shipment of chemical weapons that was stopped crossing from Turkey into Iraq? I don't remember where I read it and I can't find it. The shipment was stopped by efforts of Bewster Jennings and the Carlyle Group was implicated in the sale. The suggestion was that this shipment was meant to satisfy the doubters about WOMD, but the plot didn't work out because of that meddling Plame. Any one else read that or remember where it appeared?

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... TomR said on 1/27/2008 @ 3:44 pm PT...





Encart asked:

Does anyone remember a story that came out shortly after the invasion of Iraq about a shipment of chemical weapons that was stopped crossing from Turkey into Iraq? Here are some links I found: http://archives.cnn.com/...st/09/28/turkey.uranium/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/...world/europe/2286597.stm

http://www.mindfully.org...Seize-Uranium28sep02.htm

http://cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/flow/turkey/

http://www-personal.umic.../091101NuclearBooty.html - Tom

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 1/27/2008 @ 4:33 pm PT...





I really believe Dennis Kusinich could not only be the next president, but if he ties the Sibel Edmond's information about these careless 2 faced treasonous losers with his call for a new Cheney impeachment investigation, he becomes the new political savior of this country and the world.

Don't forget Bush's secret passage for legal trading of nuclear secrets with Turkey now to protect these US greedy parasitic US traitors. Try to stop that corporate government mass media BLACK OUT fkcx! Officially denied by the state department? Traitors at the state department? Better check the missing FBI file again. Ms. Edmond's just wanted to give the new James Bond some good material to work with. Nothing to see here so the criminal hold on the US mass media can eventually back your ace. Lying criminal murderers Bush and cheney will back your ace. Marc Grossman, and his 24 other inside traitors like Dennis Haster, Richard Perle are gonna burn. They will be prosecuted and convicted. The neo-con police state plan if it comes to frutation will be to do some kind of attack and start accusing Americans as terrorists. The clock is ticking but they will fill all the new secret prisons they built across America and turn them into concentration camps so prisons can start producing manufactured goods cheaper than the current work their multi-national corps outsourced to China. Dennis could become an American hero perhaps the biggest of the century, however time is running out.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... Impartial Observer said on 1/28/2008 @ 6:51 am PT...





Regarding immunity for the telecoms in FISA, here are the Dems who sided with the republicans on the 24th. I think they need a call from their constituents before the vote is cast later in the day on the 28th. Bayh (D-IN)

Carper (D-DE)

Inouye (D-HI)

Landrieu (D-LA)

Lieberman (ID-CT)

McCaskill (D-MO)

Mikulski (D-MD)

Nelson (D-FL)

Nelson (D-NE)

Pryor (D-AR)

Rockefeller (D-WV)

Salazar (D-CO) Time after time, Landrieu, Lieberman, Mikulski and Rockerfeller vote against our interests. Rockerfeller has been involved with cover-ups, including Valerie Plame. These bums need to be shown the door. They're part of the problem.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... Dredd said on 1/28/2008 @ 8:14 am PT...





#33 Yes, and that capitulation to the State of The Union Amurka is costing a great deal:

We are familiar with the visible costs associated with the war in Iraq and the sacrifices that our men and women in uniform and their families are making. We've lost nearly 4,000 troops, over 28,700 have been wounded and we have appropriated over $535 billion. But, we are less familiar with the hidden costs, and these will have long-term consequences. Every penny of the $535 billion we've appropriated thus far has been borrowed, meaning that the same Americans sacrificing in Iraq today will be paying for this borrowed war for the rest of their lives. It is estimated that the long-term costs of injuries alone will be at least a further $300 billion. Since the war began, the international credibility and respect of the United States has plummeted while instability has grown throughout the region. We've seen a dramatic rise in the economic, military and global influence of both Russia and China. An emboldened Iran seeks to more aggressively assert influence in the region. Our NATO allies are unwilling or unable to provide an additional 3,000 troops for Afghanistan. And the price of oil has climbed from $27.18 per barrel before the war began to $92.82 today. Here at home, we are borrowing $343 million every day to finance the war in Iraq while shortchanging our domestic needs. The American economy is slipping towards a recession as our housing market and financial sector are experiencing serious crises. Gas at the pump has increased from $1.76 per gallon before the war began to its current price of $3.07 per gallon. Our national debt has ballooned by $2.75 trillion, increasing by nearly $1 million per minute, while the value of the American dollar relative to other currencies has plummeted. (Rep. John Murtha, emphasis added).

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... Off the Grid said on 1/28/2008 @ 9:14 am PT...





yep, the dollar has lost about 35% of it's value in the "W" years, and is set to do the same in the next 4 years, regardless of who gets elected. Inflation is twice what interest rates are. The surge to bankrupt the government IS working, what will replace it? Gore knows the answer...

The generation that defeated fascism throughout the world in the 1940s found, in rising to meet their awesome challenge, that they had gained the moral authority and long-term vision to launch the Marshall Plan, the United Nations, and a new level of global cooperation and foresight that unified Europe... -from his Nobel acceptance speech none the less "new level of global cooperation and foresight that unified Europe"

Sorry, all I see is-->after your money is worthless and we have another terror attack we'll scrap the US altogether and blissfully march through peak oil together, oh, and we defeated Fascism in the 40's

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... mick said on 1/28/2008 @ 10:01 am PT...





Here's a "cut'n'paste" comment from cannonfire

that might interest some readers...

"“Treason or not”

Actually with what I personally know, their ultimate plan involves Treason! Plus Edmonds great hero whistle-blowing only surfaces part of a much larger picture. “the significance of Edmonds' revelations point to an on-going series of covert relations that link Turkey, Israel and Pakistan to wider U.S. geopolitical interests for which the "war on terror" serves as a convenient cover.”

This group is big on using “mind control” and setup’s for convenient cover! With them, everything is done “slow and easy” in the sneakiest way possible. Edmonds worked within the FBI and when reviewing what she says, focus your attention on who is involved. The same people are also linked to companies involved in other parts of this blooming story that includes huge shipments of Drugs brought in to the US. I’m talking about TON’S per week all over the US! I was in a family for more than 26 years and their business is Property Development. The family’s job in the criminal organization is to launder Drug and Gun Running money straight into property using Mortgage Fraud with Big Banks for those involved. Note the Gun running part has been already in the news with Chiquita and Drummond however both companies aren’t well known for their huge World Wide Distribution Shipments of Drugs. There are other companies involved. The weekly $100 Million Dollar sized Drug Shipments destined for Chicago where the family launders came in from Mexico through the Texas border. Corruption guarantees protection from the point of origin all the way to each destination with much of this being done by an organized Political Mafia. Guess who was Governor of Texas in the 90’s when I was told this? Besides trucking drugs, the family is involved in air freighting drugs by the TON’s in Jet Planes. One Coke jet carrying Ton’s of drugs was busted last year. The owner/pilot is my ex-sister-in-law’s brother. The Money Man behind Clyde O’Connor is my ex-brother-in-law, Bruce Adreani. I stood next to Clyde and Bruce in the 90’s while they talked about joining the criminal organization to ship huge drug shipments. Bruce and the family had already been involved since the late 70’s but air freighting would require another focus. Chiquita was mentioned above and the previous Board of Directors (around the time of the Conrad Black Indictment and Trial) includes more of those involved, some aren’t known yet (Henry Kissinger, Gov James Thompson, etc) as being involved but Richard Perle is. The Sun-Time’s Company is loaded with people involved in the drug system and other parts of the criminal organization. There are mountains more about this that everyone should know! This also includes a Mega Church in the Chicago area and the Clintons and Bush families have been directly involved in this for decades. This drug system makes Clintons’ Mena scandal look like child’s play! No one will ever believe what their plans are with the Drug money! I would be more than pleased to help Obama surface the Clintons (and others). Plus, I personally know a few other FBI whistleblowers who know about this! But like Edmonds they aren’t allowed to openly speak about it! Maybe I should speak for them until they are ready to speak for themselves? This story has only just begun to surface! Marty Didier

Northbrook, IL

# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 12:44 PM" sorry for the length but worth the time to read.

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]

... richard weaver said on 1/28/2008 @ 1:06 pm PT...





be sure to give the Cohen Group a call:

Voice: 202-863-7200 | Fax: 202-863-7800 for some reason they wont comment on Grossman?!?

apparently he will respond in a letter to the editor of American Conservative magazine

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... Off the Grid said on 1/28/2008 @ 3:30 pm PT...





http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30505

Luke Ryland interviews Sibel, 1/27/08.

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]

... TomR said on 1/28/2008 @ 10:59 pm PT...





If you want to brush up on the Carlyle Group, this 48 minute Dutch video is a good place to start. The Iron Triangle - The Carlyle Group Exposed

http://video.google.com/...ocid=7094545816220336237 Note: the first two minutes is in Dutch and the rest in English. The translation of the Dutch part: "The war in Iraq does not seem to be over al all, but in the meantime the rebuilding has already started. This has unleashed fierce competition for contracts, which are mainly awarded to American (ed: U.S.) companies. What is remarkable about these companies, is that they have people on their payroll from American politics and the military. Is this a conflict of interest, or is this the new global way of doing business? [text in the screen at this time reads: 'the iron triangle'] One of the companies that operates in this manner is the Carlyle Group." - Tom

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]

... KestrelBrighteyes said on 1/29/2008 @ 11:48 am PT...





BRAD!! HEADS UP!! Corroboration?? (and if it's already been posted, forgive me, I'm a little bit under the weather and it's affecting my thought processes) This is an interview with former American CIA agent and nuclear expert David Dastych. Exerpt: Q: Do you know anything about some US officials selling nuclear secrets to others? A: I do, but only through my American contacts in the Intelligence and the FBI. Some corrupt US officials of the Department of Defence and State Department facilitated the theft of US nuclear secrets (technology) from American national laboratories --- Los Alamos and Sandia --- to customers in several countries, including Pakistan. This procedure involved Israeli and Turkish intelligence and also Pakistan's ISI. Dr A Q Khan's laboratories were brokers for nuclear proliferation to other countries, including Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Myanmar and other states looking for nuclear technology. This information first surfaced five years ago through reports of a Turkish-American FBI translator, Ms Sibel Edmonds. She was gagged by US court decision and only recently she disclosed more information, which is still being blocked by the Bush Administration. It was revealed in part by three articles, published by "The Sunday Times" in London on the 6th, 20th and 26th of January 2008 (with my contribution). Q: Is it correct that US officials sold nuclear secrets not only to Pakistan but also to Israel and some Arab countries? A: Of course, they did. The main recipient of the most of the US nuclear information was always Israel, specifically after the capture, sentencing and jailing of their main spy in the USA. Jonathan Pollard, whose handler was a former top Israeli intelligence officer Rafi Eitan (now member of the Israeli government and chairman of the Pensioners Party). An informal group in the Mossad composed of right-wing operatives and working hand-in-hand with the Turkish and Pakistani Intelligence was offering US nuclear technology to some Arab countries and to other countries. They did this for profit and, in some cases also for political motives, for example, to get direct proof of some foreign states illegally purchasing nuclear materials or technology. At present, this might be used as a justification to prove that Iran is developing nuclear weapons. MORE

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]

... KestrelBrighteyes said on 1/29/2008 @ 11:59 am PT...





BTW, Brad, FYI - This was listed as his email address in an article posted on January 25 of this year: David.dastych@aster.pl The contact info for the article was letters@canadafreepress.com Contact information in June of 2002 was: david.dastych@wp.pl or starm@poczta.onet.pl According to information on his Amazon profile, his phone # in 2001 was (+48.22)773 29 28, 773 29 30, (48.22) 607-723-787 at Warsaw, Poland. Not sure if any of that info is still good or not, but there it is.

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]

... pat driscoll said on 1/29/2008 @ 2:37 pm PT...

