warriortomaiden:

laziness-is-a-life-style: warriortomaiden: arts-and-hearts: gumihime: I agree about Elsa being a complex character, her character development confuses the hell out if me. Why? She thinks she’s free of her past just because she ran away from it. The following scenes just show how you can’t run away from your past and expect everything to be fine. There are always consequences.



This isn’t that hard. Because people keep praising Elsa for being a feminist/good role-model for girls & Elsa fan keep saying she’s better than other Disney female characters for no good reason. [x] [x] [x] [x x] Because people keep praising Let it go for having a nice message while it’s message is actually: > run away from your past and expect everything to be fine. [x] [x] [x] [x] ———————————————— >There are always consequences. Then where is it? Did Elsa have to sacrifice something important? No. Did Elsa have to apologize for her actions? No. Did Elsa have to stop running away & face her problems? No. Everything was solved for Elsa, not by Elsa. Did anyone in the kingdom become upset because their queen ran away? No. It isn’t that hard to write an overrated, over-popular mary-sue. Look, I don’t want to start a whole thing about something I don’t even really care about. Point is, Elsa’s story is about facing your fears instead of running away from them. That’s it.



Oh, and those links that suggest you should go watch Mulan for a feminist message? I don’t think “be a macho man instead of a wimpy girl” is a very fucking good message. I love Mulan as a film, but the overall message is kinda shitty. Kinda like how I feel about Frozen. To quote Spoony: “A movie doesn’t have to be good in order to be awesome.”



By the way, “Mary Sue” is just a codeword for “if this character had been male, people wouldn’t be as angry about them”.

Well if you didn’t want to start a whole thing then maybe you shouldn’t have said anything in the first place? This is the key way to avoid argument.

And you have no proof for your claim, because all Elsa did was run away without facing consequences. This is literal fact you can’t argue. What fears did Elsa face? What consequences were there?

Where was the consequences for the scene above? Why did his kingdom accept her after she denied the throne and left them in an ‘eternal winter’? There was not even so much as a slap on the wrist for her actions, no repercussions, nothing.

You say these things but you don’t validate them, so how can they hold any weight?





Now to prove you wrong about Mulan cause holy shti. “be a macho man instead of a wimpy girl” So many levels of no.

Mulan was inspired by a real person btw, that’s a real person you’re shitting on.

Anyways, to begin. Mulan was never wimpy, do you understand why she chose to go into the army? She laid her life down, so her father could live. She went to war. She knew full and well that she might not make it home, and if she was found out to be a woman she’d be executed. But she went anyways, because she couldn’t bare the thought of seeing her father go into the battlefield.

Mulan was strong from start to finish though grew stronger as the story went on. She ditched the standards of “a perfect wife” and chose to save her father’s life. She didn’t allow laws to stop her, or the sexist expectations of her time – which was that she stay at home, be a good wife, and wait for the news of her fathers death.

Her dressing as a man did not make her any less a woman and that’s pretty sexist to imply. Just because she wasn't traditionally feminine for the majority of the movie means she’s no longer a woman? No.

And this point is a very progressive one. It shows girls to break gender roles, that it doesn’t matter how they dress, because that doesn’t change who they are on the inside. You’re sad for thinking otherwise.



You can’t understand the basic concept of a Disney’s Mulan yet you believe you understand Elsa’s character story arc? Sure.