Geisterkarle Profile Blog Joined September 2008 Germany 1056 Posts #2241

I did it once yeaaaars ago, when I actually was really good in WC3 (I still have my WCG National Finals Badge somewhere around here...) and hated it! It was: "Ok, I have to do this NOW and have around 47sec, before I have to get back ..." timings and many save/load actions! No real fun!

You will love SC2-brutal after this Don't worry! WC3 on hard is really hard with signs to craziness and unfair!I did it once yeaaaars ago, when I actually was really good in WC3 (I still have my WCG National Finals Badge somewhere around here...) and hated it! It was: "Ok, I have to do this NOW and have around 47sec, before I have to get back ..." timings and many save/load actions! No real fun!You will love SC2-brutal after this There can only be one Geisterkarle

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48888 Posts Last Edited: 2014-01-20 21:35:35 #2242 We should do a SC + BW blind race some time! Anyone keen?

Problem is I think there a few 'Zero Hour' type missions in there that are shit boring. Commentator Twitter: @GTR1H

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FluffyBinLaden Profile Blog Joined December 2010 United States 527 Posts #2243 On January 21 2014 06:35 GTR wrote:

We should do a SC + BW blind race some time! Anyone keen?

Problem is I think there a few 'Zero Hour' type missions in there that are shit boring.



I'd be game! Haven't played in the whole thing in years, so I'm definitely blind enough. ^^ I'd be game! Haven't played in the whole thing in years, so I'm definitely blind enough. ^^ Riddles in the Dark. Answers in the Light.

corumjhaelen Profile Blog Joined October 2009 France 6882 Posts Last Edited: 2014-01-20 21:41:43 #2244

Will be lot easier and shorter than wc3 though^^ I'd probably be down for that, would be funWill be lot easier and shorter than wc3 though^^ ‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset

Growiel Profile Joined October 2010 Korea (South) 363 Posts #2245 That could be fun, I haven't played SC and BW in ages StarCraft II for ever.

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48888 Posts #2246 Alright, how about we set a tentative time of Saturday 1st February at around 12pm CET?

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Raelcun Profile Blog Joined March 2008 United States 3714 Posts #2247 There are a few timed missions, but most of them aren't too bad.

Raelcun Profile Blog Joined March 2008 United States 3714 Posts #2248 On January 21 2014 03:30 AdamAK wrote:

After 38 hours, I concluded that the 20h after that would simply not be fun. Most people realised the same thing about 20h before I did, haha.



Doesn't help that I'm just not good at WC3 (yet). I reckon doing the race on Normal wouldn't have been fun, because it would be too easy, though.

You were actually doing much better near the end than you were at the start. If you were to try again while fully awake using what you learned, I think you'd do much better. The problem with WC3 is there's a lot of really subtle mechanics to manage like upkeep so playing on hard when you haven't played in ages is just punishing. You were actually doing much better near the end than you were at the start. If you were to try again while fully awake using what you learned, I think you'd do much better. The problem with WC3 is there's a lot of really subtle mechanics to manage like upkeep so playing on hard when you haven't played in ages is just punishing.

NovaMB Profile Joined February 2013 Germany 9521 Posts Last Edited: 2014-01-20 22:27:59 #2249



Never beat the BW mod either. Game's too hard I could play along with the Broodwar campaign mod for SC2. Never owned BWNever beat the BW mod either. Game's too hard

Raelcun Profile Blog Joined March 2008 United States 3714 Posts #2250 The campaign mod for SC2 wouldn't really work. There's too many reasons to go into why right now, but if you've never owned it, the starcraft anthology is very cheap and can be bought digitally on battle.net

NovaMB Profile Joined February 2013 Germany 9521 Posts #2251 Figured that. Wouldnt enter the race with that ofc.

I'll have to look into the last part though. If only I could remember my B.net password. the b.net client erased every memory of it with its damn convenience

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48888 Posts #2252 you can always just make a new battle.net account... Commentator Twitter: @GTR1H

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mahrgell Profile Blog Joined December 2009 Germany 1193 Posts #2253 About the WC3 race... Has anyone ever bothered looking up the sda records for wc3+tft?

Even though it is segmented, it is quite insane...

4.5 hours for RoC, 2h08min for TFT

This are all campaigns except rexxar (which would have been part of the race, but still... even bbf forfeited the race after 44hours, being at tft ud6, i think)

on hard....

Alventenie Profile Joined July 2007 United States 2021 Posts #2254 Hmm, I should have taken a look at that race =D. I beat TFT in like 9 hours last time i played through the campaign but ive played it over a dozen times =/. Not much of a blind race for me x.x





If I wasn't working on the first I would take part of the SC + BW race you guys are setting up!

GTR Profile Blog Joined September 2004 48888 Posts #2255 Werster rants are the best.

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AdamAK Profile Joined January 2013 Netherlands 5 Posts #2256 On January 21 2014 07:15 Raelcun wrote:

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On January 21 2014 03:30 AdamAK wrote:

After 38 hours, I concluded that the 20h after that would simply not be fun. Most people realised the same thing about 20h before I did, haha.



Doesn't help that I'm just not good at WC3 (yet). I reckon doing the race on Normal wouldn't have been fun, because it would be too easy, though.

You were actually doing much better near the end than you were at the start. If you were to try again while fully awake using what you learned, I think you'd do much better. The problem with WC3 is there's a lot of really subtle mechanics to manage like upkeep so playing on hard when you haven't played in ages is just punishing. You were actually doing much better near the end than you were at the start. If you were to try again while fully awake using what you learned, I think you'd do much better. The problem with WC3 is there's a lot of really subtle mechanics to manage like upkeep so playing on hard when you haven't played in ages is just punishing.



Yeah, I reckon that if I'd play through it once or twice (and actually memorise or remap all the hotkeys + use control groups more often) I'd be able to breeze through Hard mode a lot easier. I want to look into the segmented SDA run and see how feasible single segment runs would be of each campaign. Given the length of each campaign, I think it could be a pretty cool thing to try out. Yeah, I reckon that if I'd play through it once or twice (and actually memorise or remap all the hotkeys + use control groups more often) I'd be able to breeze through Hard mode a lot easier. I want to look into the segmented SDA run and see how feasible single segment runs would be of each campaign. Given the length of each campaign, I think it could be a pretty cool thing to try out.

Geisterkarle Profile Blog Joined September 2008 Germany 1056 Posts #2257 On January 21 2014 06:35 GTR wrote:

We should do a SC + BW blind race some time! Anyone keen?

Problem is I think there a few 'Zero Hour' type missions in there that are shit boring.

Just curious, because I normally run just for me:

What is a "blind" race? Just curious, because I normally run just for me:What is a "blind" race? There can only be one Geisterkarle

crate Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 2039 Posts #2258 Blind, in this context, means you haven't played the game before, usually.



In this specific case I'm not really sure what GTR is aiming for with "blind," since my guess is much of TL has played SC(BW) but possibly not the campaign, and whether that counts as "blind" isn't really clear. We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333

mahrgell Profile Blog Joined December 2009 Germany 1193 Posts #2259 So you know now shortcuts, tricks etc... as seen in the wc3 race ^^ most participants had played the wc3 campaign before blind is often just referring to " have no clue about speedrunning the game"So you know now shortcuts, tricks etc... as seen in the wc3 race ^^ most participants had played the wc3 campaign before

Growiel Profile Joined October 2010 Korea (South) 363 Posts Last Edited: 2014-01-21 10:04:35 #2260 Anyone has an estimation of the time of the race ? I vaguely remember BW being extremely long, a lot more than either WoL or HoTS campaigns. StarCraft II for ever.

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