How did pop culture look from inside the White House and the halls of Congress in 2017? After a year as Times reporters covering Washington, we recently shared our analysis with Patrick Healy, a deputy Culture editor and former political reporter.

PATRICK HEALY For starters, let’s have fun: What’s something about culture and politics in 2017 that most people don’t know?

KATIE ROGERS Melania Trump recently told me her favorite show is “How to Get Away With Murder.” I love that the first lady is a Shondaland fan. She also enjoys “Empire.” And reality TV did not come up once.