eaglehawk said: "Quagsire moved from NU to OU

Amoonguss moved from RU to OU

Zapdos moved from UU to OU"



What the hell is going on in OU? Click to expand...

Decent players and good player should contribute strongly to the stats. Click to expand...

Uh this is also the fact we just had a suspect test and in suspect tests most people just use stall to get reqs. The OU Ladder is also popular in that too many players don't know how to break it, and that 1695 and up range attracts the majority of that playerbase. It's important to note these stats are usage anyways. When you take a glance at the OU stat then see stuff like Terrakion being used less than Zapdos it shows viability is kind of just ignored in some instances because the OU Ladder is so mind numbingly stupid to ever judge merits of someone being good.And then this from the weighted stats thread lol. Amoonguss kind of moved up on its own for its own merit but the fact Quagsire is now OU makes you scratch your head. I know they changed this policy to include suspect tests into the usage stats now and make it the primary ladder when suspects happen but man it just screws up the representation of OU so much. If you wanted a benchmark for viability though you're better off using the Smogon Tour usage stats, even if it's smaller than the ladders usage stats. It's a better representation of OU knowing that it's not filled with a bunch of dudes cheesing the ladder with ABR Stall and w/e dong versions of stall they run these days.Edit: I think the interest for FU has also came to a halt so not sure why this is included in the OP either other than the copy paste aspect. I know it was made a thing a couple of months back alongside PU but it's ended and I'm sure other people have interest in a lot of other niche tiers rather than FU to justify throwing that usage stat / banlist there.Edit2: Actually Ok I think I know why Zapdos moved to OU since it just randomly popped up in my head and I know I wasn't the only one going "wtf". Mastermind posted a RMT around the time these stats were taken into account which featured Zapdos in a, surprise, stall team. He was constantly at the top 10 or so spots with it and I'm sure people grabbed the team and got high out of the fact it's just stall even though the team has so many flaws you're just like wtf (no discredit to mastermind but it does and it's a good representation of how messy the OU ladder really is). Out of the fact it's just stall these ladder players normally have some bloated as hell GXE or something along the lines of 90 with higher glicko ratings. This doesn't take into account all the other players using that team who more than likely managed to hit the ranges to make Zapdos become OU.