Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011, 03:32 pm

Copy/Paste and Send to the MPs. This email is to register my objection to the to The Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Bill.



Firstly, the use of the Christchurch Earthquake tragedy to forward such a political agenda is disgraceful. It shames me to think that our government would undertake such a disgusting action, and portrays to both our own country and the International Community an image of our government being corrupt and unjust.



The use of urgency to bypass the standard political process for this bill is an outright abuse of the urgency process. There is no sensible reason that this bill is "urgent" enough to bypass this process.



The requirement for the bill to have gone through standard process was well evident in the complete lack of any understanding of the technological implications of this bill, described in The National Business Review article: "Internet file sharing law passes after loopy debate", as "surreal levels of technical ignorance". I point to Jonathan Young's attempted comparisons of the Internet to the fictional SkyNet, and Katrina Shanks complete admission of "I don't know", as obvious examples that this bill and the issues around it were not clear, and it was not ready to be passed into law.



In regards to the law itself, it violates the Presumption of Innocence, requiring no burden of proof on behalf of the accuser before they can file a notice. I cannot emphasise how outrageous it is that such a law would be considered in our country, let alone passed.



Additionally, this bill is technologically infeasible. It is almost impossible to prove that you have not downloaded something on a computer. As anything can be deleted with the click of a button, the lack of the copyright material on your computer would not provide evidence that you had not downloaded it. I would challenge you to find any argument for proof of innocence in this, which cannot be countered with the claim that it has been subsequently deleted.

It's also entirely possible for you to appear to have downloaded files, without having done so at all. I point you to



Finally, the select committee response to the 92A clause stated there was having overwhelming public opposition to such a bill. How can such a bill be passed in the name of New Zealand public when it appears there is "overwhelming opposition". Especially since it was skipped past the subsequent select committee process so that public opinion could not be registered on the potential changes.





I propose in the face of such a travesty of action regarding this bill, the only non-disgraceful action you can take would be to call for its immediate repeal. Or tender your resignation.



Yours sincerely



<your name here>



Email List of MPs who voted for this bill (Unchecked by me as of yet).

amy.adams@parliament.govt.nz, jim.anderton@parliament.govt.nz, jacinda.ardern@parliament.govt.nz, shane.ardern@parliament.govt.nz, chris.auchinvole@parliament.govt.nz, kanwaljit.singh.bakshi@parliament.govt.n z, rick.barker@parliament.govt.nz, carol.beaumont@parliament.govt.nz, david.bennett@parliament.govt.nz, loren.bolton@parliament.govt.nz, jackie.blue@parliament.govt.nz, chester.borrows@parliament.govt.nz, john.boscawen@parliament.govt.nz, simon.bridges@parliament.govt.nz, g.brownlee@ministers.govt.nz, brendon.burns@parliament.govt.nz, Yvette.mckinley@parliament.govt.nz, hilary.calvert@parliament.govt.nz, d.carter@ministers.govt.nz, j.carter@ministers.govt.nz, steve.chadwick@parliament.govt.nz, charles.chauvel@parliament.govt.nz, ashraf.choudhary@parliament.govt.nz, j.coleman@ministers.govt.nz, j.collins@ministers.govt.nz, clayton.cosgrove@parliament.govt.nz, david.cunliffe@parliament.govt.nz, clare.curran@parliament.govt.nz, lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz, Kelvin.davis@parliament.govt.nz, Jacqui.dean@parliament.govt.nz, roger.douglas@parliament.govt.nz, p.dunne@ministers.govt.nz, ruth.dyson@parliament.govt.nz, b.english@ministers.govt.nz, Shona.robb@parliament.govt.nz, darien.fenton@parliament.govt.nz, c.finlayson@ministers.govt.nz, teururoa.flavell@parliament.govt.nz, craig.foss@parliament.govt.nz, aaron.gilmore@parliament.govt.nz, p.goff@parliament.govt.nz, jo.goodhew@parliament.govt.nz, sandra.goudie@national.org.nz, tim.groser@parliament.govt.nz, nathan.guy@ministers.govt.nz, george.hawkins@parliament.govt.nz, john.hayes@parliament.govt.nz, p.heatley@ministers.govt.nz, tau.henare@parliament.govt.nz, r.hide@ministers.govt.nz, chris.hipkins@parliament.govt.nz, pete.hodgson@parliament.govt.nz, parekura.horomia@parliament.govt.nz, Raymond.huo@parliament.govt.nz, paul.hutchison@parliament.govt.nz, shane.jones@parliament.govt.nz, s.joyce@ministers.govt.nz, rahui.katene@parliament.govt.nz, nikki.kaye@parliament.govt.nz, j.key@ministers.govt.nz, A.King@parliament.govt.nz, colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz, melissa.lee@parliament.govt.nz, Iain.lees-galloway@parliament.govt.nz, peseta.sam.lotu-iiga@parliament.govt.nz, tim.macindoe@parliament.govt.nz, moana.mackey@labour.org.nz, nanaia.mahuta@parliament.govt.nz, trevor.mallard@parliament.govt.nz, w.mapp@ministers.govt.nz, todd.mcclay@parliament.govt.nz, m.mccully@ministers.govt.nz, sue.moroney@parliament.govt.nz, stuart.nash@parliament.govt.nz, Phil.Major@parliament.govt.nz, hekia.parata@ministers.govt.nz, david.parker@parliament.govt.nz, allan.peachey@parliament.govt.nz, ritchie.wards@parliament.govt.nz, s.power@ministers.govt.nz, rajen.prasad@parliament.govt.nz, paul.quinn@parliament.govt.nz, angela.bray@parliament.govt.nz, jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz, ross.robertson@parliament.govt.nz, caroline.mitchell-lowe@parliament.govt.n z, eric.roy@parliament.govt.nz, Heather.Roy@parliament.govt.nz, t.ryall@ministers.govt.nz, Carmel.sepuloni@parliament.govt.nz, heather.henderson@parliament.govt.nz, Pita.Sharples@parliament.govt.nz, david.shearer@parliament.govt.nz, sua.william.sio@parliament.govt.nz, beryl.bright@parliament.govt.nz, n.smith@ministers.govt.nz, maryan.street@parliament.govt.nz, lindsay.tisch@parliament.govt.nz, tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz, chris.tremain@national.org.nz, t.turia@ministers.govt.nz, phil.twyford@parliament.govt.nz, gabrielle.stewart@parliament.govt.nz, nicky.wagner@parliament.govt.nz, Apirana.dawson@parliament.govt.nz, k.wilkinson@ministers.govt.nz, m.williamson@ministers.govt.nz, Michael.woodhouse@parliament.govt.nz, jonathan.young@parliament.govt.nz

This email is to register my objection to the to The Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Bill.Firstly, the use of the Christchurch Earthquake tragedy to forward such a political agenda is disgraceful. It shames me to think that our government would undertake such a disgusting action, and portrays to both our own country and the International Community an image of our government being corrupt and unjust.The use of urgency to bypass the standard political process for this bill is an outright abuse of the urgency process. There is no sensible reason that this bill is "urgent" enough to bypass this process.The requirement for the bill to have gone through standard process was well evident in the complete lack of any understanding of the technological implications of this bill, described in The National Business Review article: "Internet file sharing law passes after loopy debate", as "surreal levels of technical ignorance". I point to Jonathan Young's attempted comparisons of the Internet to the fictional SkyNet, and Katrina Shanks complete admission of "I don't know", as obvious examples that this bill and the issues around it were not clear, and it was not ready to be passed into law.In regards to the law itself, it violates the Presumption of Innocence, requiring no burden of proof on behalf of the accuser before they can file a notice. I cannot emphasise how outrageous it is that such a law would be considered in our country, let alone passed.Additionally, this bill is technologically infeasible. It is almost impossible to prove that you have not downloaded something on a computer. As anything can be deleted with the click of a button, the lack of the copyright material on your computer would not provide evidence that you had not downloaded it. I would challenge you to find any argument for proof of innocence in this, which cannot be countered with the claim that it has been subsequently deleted.It's also entirely possible for you to appear to have downloaded files, without having done so at all. I point you to http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/ for technical details. This means you could be identified as having downloaded the copyright material, without having downloaded it at all, but for which you will still be held responsible.Finally, the select committee response to the 92A clause stated there was having overwhelming public opposition to such a bill. How can such a bill be passed in the name of New Zealand public when it appears there is "overwhelming opposition". Especially since it was skipped past the subsequent select committee process so that public opinion could not be registered on the potential changes.I propose in the face of such a travesty of action regarding this bill, the only non-disgraceful action you can take would be to call for its immediate repeal. Or tender your resignation.Yours sincerely (Unchecked by me as of yet).amy.adams@parliament.govt.nz, jim.anderton@parliament.govt.nz, jacinda.ardern@parliament.govt.nz, shane.ardern@parliament.govt.nz, chris.auchinvole@parliament.govt.nz, kanwaljit.singh.bakshi@parliament.govt.nz, rick.barker@parliament.govt.nz, carol.beaumont@parliament.govt.nz, david.bennett@parliament.govt.nz, loren.bolton@parliament.govt.nz, jackie.blue@parliament.govt.nz, chester.borrows@parliament.govt.nz, john.boscawen@parliament.govt.nz, simon.bridges@parliament.govt.nz, g.brownlee@ministers.govt.nz, brendon.burns@parliament.govt.nz, Yvette.mckinley@parliament.govt.nz, hilary.calvert@parliament.govt.nz, d.carter@ministers.govt.nz, j.carter@ministers.govt.nz, steve.chadwick@parliament.govt.nz, charles.chauvel@parliament.govt.nz, ashraf.choudhary@parliament.govt.nz, j.coleman@ministers.govt.nz, j.collins@ministers.govt.nz, clayton.cosgrove@parliament.govt.nz, david.cunliffe@parliament.govt.nz, clare.curran@parliament.govt.nz, lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz, Kelvin.davis@parliament.govt.nz, Jacqui.dean@parliament.govt.nz, roger.douglas@parliament.govt.nz, p.dunne@ministers.govt.nz, ruth.dyson@parliament.govt.nz, b.english@ministers.govt.nz, Shona.robb@parliament.govt.nz, darien.fenton@parliament.govt.nz, c.finlayson@ministers.govt.nz, teururoa.flavell@parliament.govt.nz, craig.foss@parliament.govt.nz, aaron.gilmore@parliament.govt.nz, p.goff@parliament.govt.nz, jo.goodhew@parliament.govt.nz, sandra.goudie@national.org.nz, tim.groser@parliament.govt.nz, nathan.guy@ministers.govt.nz, george.hawkins@parliament.govt.nz, john.hayes@parliament.govt.nz, p.heatley@ministers.govt.nz, tau.henare@parliament.govt.nz, r.hide@ministers.govt.nz, chris.hipkins@parliament.govt.nz, pete.hodgson@parliament.govt.nz, parekura.horomia@parliament.govt.nz, Raymond.huo@parliament.govt.nz, paul.hutchison@parliament.govt.nz, shane.jones@parliament.govt.nz, s.joyce@ministers.govt.nz, rahui.katene@parliament.govt.nz, nikki.kaye@parliament.govt.nz, j.key@ministers.govt.nz, A.King@parliament.govt.nz, colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz, melissa.lee@parliament.govt.nz, Iain.lees-galloway@parliament.govt.nz, peseta.sam.lotu-iiga@parliament.govt.nz,tim.macindoe@parliament.govt.nz, moana.mackey@labour.org.nz, nanaia.mahuta@parliament.govt.nz, trevor.mallard@parliament.govt.nz, w.mapp@ministers.govt.nz, todd.mcclay@parliament.govt.nz, m.mccully@ministers.govt.nz, sue.moroney@parliament.govt.nz, stuart.nash@parliament.govt.nz, Phil.Major@parliament.govt.nz, hekia.parata@ministers.govt.nz, david.parker@parliament.govt.nz, allan.peachey@parliament.govt.nz, ritchie.wards@parliament.govt.nz, s.power@ministers.govt.nz, rajen.prasad@parliament.govt.nz, paul.quinn@parliament.govt.nz, angela.bray@parliament.govt.nz, jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz, ross.robertson@parliament.govt.nz, caroline.mitchell-lowe@parliament.govt.nz, eric.roy@parliament.govt.nz, Heather.Roy@parliament.govt.nz, t.ryall@ministers.govt.nz, Carmel.sepuloni@parliament.govt.nz, heather.henderson@parliament.govt.nz, Pita.Sharples@parliament.govt.nz, david.shearer@parliament.govt.nz, sua.william.sio@parliament.govt.nz, beryl.bright@parliament.govt.nz, n.smith@ministers.govt.nz, maryan.street@parliament.govt.nz, lindsay.tisch@parliament.govt.nz, tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz, chris.tremain@national.org.nz, t.turia@ministers.govt.nz, phil.twyford@parliament.govt.nz, gabrielle.stewart@parliament.govt.nz, nicky.wagner@parliament.govt.nz, Apirana.dawson@parliament.govt.nz, k.wilkinson@ministers.govt.nz, m.williamson@ministers.govt.nz, Michael.woodhouse@parliament.govt.nz, jonathan.young@parliament.govt.nz Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 03:40 am (UTC)

Andrew J Cox Now with THIS I can agree with you totally :)

Well worded.

And sent.

I look forward to soon hearing the sound of their email inboxes exploding.

-AJC Now with THIS I can agree with you totally :)Well worded.And sent.I look forward to soon hearing the sound of their email inboxes exploding.-AJC Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 04:43 am (UTC)

mordecai5 I have replies from these addresses indicating the emails should be forwarded to the associated addresses instead:



Loren.Glover@parliament.govt.nz => Felicity.Cuzens@parliament.govt.nz

T.Turia@ministers.govt.nz => Missy.Winiata@parliament.govt.nz I have replies from these addresses indicating the emails should be forwarded to the associated addresses instead:Loren.Glover@parliament.govt.nz => Felicity.Cuzens@parliament.govt.nzT.Turia@ministers.govt.nz => Missy.Winiata@parliament.govt.nz Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 05:04 am (UTC)

(Anonymous): typo "...use of the Christchurch Earth tragedy" > use of the Christchurch Earthquake tragedy :) Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 05:44 am (UTC)

geeknz I'm trying to confirm the source for the email list.



Updated the paragraph regarding the dmca paper.



And yes, I've used an American spell checker, sorry. I'll try fix that now. I'm trying to confirm the source for the email list.Updated the paragraph regarding the dmca paper.And yes, I've used an American spell checker, sorry. I'll try fix that now. Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 05:46 am (UTC)

slayerwitchnz The requirement for the bill to have gone through standard process was well evident in the complete lack of any understanding of the technological implications of this bill, :P



In addition to the points you mention above, I'm wondering about the reasonableness of this bill with regards to things like eg flatting situations where there is more than one internet user and/or people who are not necessarily the ISP bill payer using the internet.



Also what about dynamic IP adresses? Could users of these be accused of downloading something which in reality was downloaded by someone they have never even met?



Well written though, thanks!



(Found this post via the VOTE OUT NATIONAL group on FB, after it was posted there by a friend of a friend). The requirement for the bill to have gone through standard process was well evident in the complete lack of anyof the technological implications of this bill, :PIn addition to the points you mention above, I'm wondering about the reasonableness of this bill with regards to things like eg flatting situations where there is more than one internet user and/or people who are not necessarily the ISP bill payer using the internet.Also what about dynamic IP adresses? Could users of these be accused of downloading something which in reality was downloaded by someone they have never even met?Well written though, thanks!(Found this post via the VOTE OUT NATIONAL group on FB, after it was posted there by a friend of a friend). Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 05:51 am (UTC)

geeknz Thanks. Trying to edit this around getting my actual work done hasn't helped. Thanks. Trying to edit this around getting my actual work done hasn't helped. Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 05:57 am (UTC)

slayerwitchnz You're welcome :) You're welcome :) Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 06:03 am (UTC)

fuctrack http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10719372&ref=rss MELISSA LEE NATIONAL MP OWN S ILLEGAL COPIES OF KOREAN MUSIC! Wow, and i even mentioned at the end of my email that she needs to own up about what bands she has on her ipod or pc and then if it's SM ent or JYJ then she owes them mooooooooney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fri, Apr. 15th, 2011 11:45 am (UTC)

(Anonymous) Good concise list of the 111. Thanks for the work Sun, Apr. 17th, 2011 09:58 am (UTC)

(Anonymous): God help us Unbelievably stupid even for the NZ government. Copied and sent. Reminiscent of the anti smacking bill which was passed although the majority of NZ was not supportive indicated when a survey was conducted after the bill was passed. Thanks for listening to your citizens... NOT! Sun, Apr. 17th, 2011 06:41 pm (UTC)

(Anonymous): done. and a bit more I replied with a customised version to show I am giving it my personal attention. I finished the letter with an additional blurb:



"You are supposed to be representing myself and other New Zealanders. I appreciate this is uncharted territory for the world's legal system. But there are plenty of experts in the field who can give you the executive summary for technical things you don't understand. This is important for our future and we care for our freedoms and the freedoms of others. This is why we pay attention to what you do."



I also challenged them to prove they did not download nude pictures of Santa Clause last week.

:) Shot fellas. Mon, Apr. 18th, 2011 07:47 am (UTC)

Amanda Girvan Thanks for this.

I have pasted and sent. The automatic responses have been rather amusing; apparently it is only the Office of the PM that reads his emails, so I shall wait for the office chair to learn to read (c: Thanks for this.I have pasted and sent. The automatic responses have been rather amusing; apparently it is only the Office of the PM that reads his emails, so I shall wait for the office chair to learn to read (c: Wed, Apr. 20th, 2011 01:54 am (UTC)

(Anonymous): A response from Clare Curran http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=349845574976 Thu, Apr. 21st, 2011 12:18 am (UTC)

(Anonymous): Done Signed, Sealed and delivered Thu, Apr. 21st, 2011 06:44 am (UTC)

(Anonymous): Get your facts straight the select committee process was NOT skipped. The select committee report was released in NOVEMBER 2010. There was two months for the public to write and send in submissions on the bill between april and june 2010. The only parts that were brought through urgency were the committee of the whole house and the second reading, post select committee report. There was no democratic process skipped, or changed.



If you wanted to complain, you should have complained last year when you had the chance to. There was no travesty of action - for months and months those that were actually keeping tabs on the bill and its progress through the house knew what the substantive form of the new legislation would be. There was no surprise, no travesty, just a whole bunch of people jumping on the "let's complain cause we don't wanna get caught downloading copyrighted films" bandwagon,



Mon, Apr. 25th, 2011 11:25 pm (UTC)

geeknz It was.

The select committee process after the first reading was done. And yes, many issues were raised ... many.

To the point is was noted in the select committee report that there was "overwhelming opposition" against the bill in its current form.



There was then months of the bill sitting on hold, with no action being allowed against it. I tried, and got told I needed to wait until it was referred back to select committee again.



After the second reading, according to the correct process, it should have been referred back to select committee _again_ for further review.

That was the process skipped, and the reason we weren't allowed to put further complaints/comments in.



Please check your facts on how a bill gets passed - and what can be skipped under urgency. It was.The select committee process after the first reading was done. And yes, many issues were raised ... many.To the point is was noted in the select committee report that there was "overwhelming opposition" against the bill in its current form.There was then months of the bill sitting on hold, with no action being allowed against it. I tried, and got told I needed to wait until it was referred back to select committee again.After the second reading, according to the correct process, it should have been referred back to select committee _again_ for further review.That was the process skipped, and the reason we weren't allowed to put further complaints/comments in.Please check your facts on how a bill gets passed - and what can be skipped under urgency. Sun, Apr. 24th, 2011 09:50 pm (UTC)

fuctrack I sent an email, and a couple mp's had actually emailed me back. I sent an email, and a couple mp's had actually emailed me back. Wed, May. 4th, 2011 05:43 am (UTC)

jrsquall It would appear that some MPs have set up an auto-response for this email, but ONLY if the wording is exact. I have amended a few lines and haven't recieved the auto-responses. It would appear that some MPs have set up an auto-response for this email, but ONLY if the wording is exact. I have amended a few lines and haven't recieved the auto-responses. Wed, May. 4th, 2011 05:48 am (UTC)

geeknz Nice to know I'm so loved. Nice to know I'm so loved.