Last week, Dr. Jerry Johnson of the National Religious Broadcasters guest-hosted the Family Research Council’s radio program “Washington Watch” and spent the entire time railing against facility access for transgender students.

One caller, Patsy, chimed in to say that it is no wonder President Obama has taken a stance in favor of nondiscrimination policies since the president “is a sexual deviant and Michelle Obama is a transvestite.”

“Why can’t people get the facts?” the caller asked.

Johnson, in a hurry to move on, said that alleging that Michelle Obama is a “transvestite” may not be the most helpful political strategy.

“That’s a theory that’s out there,” Johnson replied, “but I think, actually, Patsy, and to the listeners out there, we’ve got to come against this really in a different way, we don’t need that kind of theory to oppose this. And it’s an accusation that I’ve seen out there but there’s no fact to that. The facts, though, of this case are clear and that is the president is pushing this agenda and foisting it upon the schools.”

The theory that the first lady is a transgender woman has been promoted by Alex Jones, a prominent Donald Trump endorser, and other far-right conspiracy theory outlets.