cataharian:

witwitch:

tobelumberjill: aeonwoman: witwitch: I don’t think men as a class will always hate women as a class. I think patriarchy is a learned behavior, not innate to men. I want to live in a world without gender, not a world without men. A global female only society is impossible. I want to end male violence so no woman has to experience it again. I want to end the objectification of women’s bodies. Changing men is possible, but it will take generations before women are free. Nobody is claiming an abuser can change. But a new generation can be taught to be better than the last. Every small change counts for the future. Every woman who gets men to stop using slurs or watching porn matters. The only way all women globally will be free is if we either change men or they all die off. Those are your options. It is hard work and no woman is obligated to do it. You have a right to live free from your oppressor. There’s a misconception that this type of labor benefits men. But you’re not working for the benefit of men, you’re working for the benefit of every woman that man will interact with in the future. It’s women who see the benefit of this labor, not men. Men don’t gain anything by being educated in respecting women. My feminist work is for the women who aren’t born yet. men created patriarchy. all over the world, separate from each other, men started oppressing women because they could. not because they learned it. this is innate male behavior and, as bleak as it may be, we can’t just educate men out of it.



repeating over and over that dating men is a feminist act harms young girls wanting to be good feminists. the idea of dating men is already pushed on them from so many angles, including liberal feminism. why do you keep trying to bring that into radical feminism? don’t sacrifice the welfare of girls just so you can justify being with men. don’t say that you are dating men for the benefit of all of the women born after you, because that is not true. date all the men you want, but don’t be disingenuous about it. ^^^^ My post literally says nothing about dating men. I was talking about things like more anti-porn messages in society, more legislation, etc… But if you think it is better to just give up? I literally never said dating men was a feminist act. Arguing with them is. Please stop being so disingenuous and twisting around what I mean. I am talking about fighting a culture war by speaking up every time a man says something misogynistic. How am I sacrificing the welfare of girls by saying choosing to work to change men is a feminist act? I did not say date, I said work to change. How do you read what I wrote and your mind jumped to dating? Wtf. White people chose to oppress people of color. Do you believe we are innately predisposed to white supremacy, or that it is a learned behavior?

For the record, I’m a man and I learnt feminism from women who taught me how to recognise misogyny. Mostly through tumblr posts or female friends of mine.

I used to be misogynyst, when I was about 12 or 13 years old. But it wasn’t on my genes or anything. It was the way I was raised. I was raised to “have” women, not to listen to them and respect them.

I think sexism is a learnt behaviour, and, sadly, a very easy behaviour for men. That’s why all over the world, it just appeared on all societes. Because some men realised they could do it and how easy it was.

It’s innate to someone who is raised to never talk about their insecurities and issues, and that power over others is the only way to measure their value. And guess what? That’s the way men have always been raised.

We were primitive at some point, and males didn’t care about anything but their pleasure. Which is understandable in an intellectually under-developed species.

BUT we aren’t that species anymore. We have the ability to understand stuff like emotions, and language, and quantum mechanics.

I just think that humanity (men, specially) have dragged around a thirst for power for more than a hundred thousand years, and even when it’s not innate to us anymore, we keep teaching it. Because it’s easy and it brings a very primitive sense of satisfaction to those who benefit from it and can use the power they have.

So, in a way, it is men’s fault. But not today’s men. Most men, nearly all, can be taught to be good people and respect women and listen to them. It takes time and patience, but it is possible.

Having a certain gender doesn’t make you hopeless. If you are a woman and you put effort into teaching feminist values to a man, everyone wins. He learns to treat every woman the way she deserves, and to recognise when his male friends are being sexist. Maybe you teach him enough that he can teach others, and so on