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6ft 3.39in (191.5cm)

Canson said on 9/Mar/18

@Celebheights 6’1.5: Boris may be closer. Andrea could be right could be 3cm difference. Hard to tell with the hat and the angle. But even at 3cm Boris’s shoe is thicker than Kobe’s. I can’t tell if that’s a boot but even in just a 1” sneaker or 1.25 that could be a 5/8” difference or at worst 1/4”. So if He has the footwear at 1/4” Kobe would be 6’4.75 and he would be about what you have him 6’3 1/4 maybe 6’3 1/3. But that’s prob at least a full cm to call it so 6’3 1/4. Or maybe all thints considered 6’3 flat.

Canson said on 9/Mar/18

@Andrea: I didn’t take into account him gaining additional height either. My thinking based on how they look even if we go 3cm difference in appearance the shoes are different. Boris has an advantage. Maybe 6’2.75 was low and he could be 6’3 imho. 6’3.25 is possible which actually could make sense too because he would be 6’4” out of bed and could’ve gotten an early morning 6’3.75 or even 6’3.5 and rounded up. But he can look 6’4 at times too I agree. His height is all over the place but not as bad as Shawne’s. I agree with you on Idris. Not a flat 6’2 but I think the type of height that Michael phelps or Russell’s westbrook would be. Maybe 6’2.25 up to .5. 189cm. Never met Russ but Phelps I did and he looked around 2” shorter than me. He could be 6’2.5 max but I would’ve guessed 6’2.25-.5. He has a very long torso tho. He didn’t look proportionate at all. Phelps could lose an inch conceivably and be a 191-192cm out of bed.

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 9/Mar/18

@Canson I agree that he looks to be 6'3 1/4" there, especially considering the fact that Boris is slightly closer to the camera there. While Kobe Byrant can admittedly appear than his listing, he also looks to be no more than 6'4 3/4" here by a 6'5 1/4" measured Peyton Manning:



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Another one of my favorite shots would be him by Andy Roddick, a 6'1" listed James Blake (it's hard to say how tall that he is in reality, as I'm not too familiar with him) and a 6'9 3/4" listed John Isner:



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Andy Roddick looks to be about the same as Novak Djokovic (maybe fractionally taller at times), 2 CM taller than Roger Federer, and then 4-4.5 CM taller than Rafael Nadal is. Therefore, Andy Roddick isn't a fraction over 6'2". Considering this, I'd estimate that Boris isn't a full 6'4" there. said on 9/Mar/18@Canson I agree that he looks to be 6'3 1/4" there, especially considering the fact that Boris is slightly closer to the camera there. While Kobe Byrant can admittedly appear than his listing, he also looks to be no more than 6'4 3/4" here by a 6'5 1/4" measured Peyton Manning:Another one of my favorite shots would be him by Andy Roddick, a 6'1" listed James Blake (it's hard to say how tall that he is in reality, as I'm not too familiar with him) and a 6'9 3/4" listed John Isner:Andy Roddick looks to be about the same as Novak Djokovic (maybe fractionally taller at times), 2 CM taller than Roger Federer, and then 4-4.5 CM taller than Rafael Nadal is. Therefore, Andy Roddick isn't a fraction over 6'2". Considering this, I'd estimate that Boris isn't a full 6'4" there.

Canson said on 9/Mar/18

@Celebheights6’1.5: as far as Rick Fox, he’s more 6’5.5 Based on Rob meeting him. And based on how he looks with Kobe

Canson said on 8/Mar/18

@Andrea: there’s definitely always a chance Boris is under 6’4”. Especially compared to kobe



@Celebheights 6’1.5: Melo was very cool. I actually have met him when he was in high school when he was at Oak Hill. He’s a few years younger than me but I saw him about 2 years ago at a restaurant when he was here. I’ve also played against and seen in person off the court Juan Dixon Steve Blake Jarrett Jack Caron Butler Keith Bogans Joe Forte Kirk Hinrich TJ Ford Delonte West Eddie Basden who played with West at Roosevelt. I’ve played against Eddie Griffin and others as well. I’ve met face to face Harvey Grant Larry Johnson Gheorge muresan Muggsy Bogues Dell Curry. Met Rod Strickland Chris Webber Calbert Cheaney Juwan howard (I was a teen then and wasn’t on even ground when I met them at the game so hard to tell how exactly tall they were) and Charles Barkley I saw from a distance same with Michael Jordan Rip hamilton. However the others I could give a decent estimate.

Andrea said on 8/Mar/18

I completely agree with you about Idris, Canson, just like I completely disagree with you about Boris... 😊

6'2.25 is not impossible for Idris, but that's the probably the lowest I'd argue. Although he can certainly look no more than 6'2 at times, I think he's got to clear the 6'2 mark when he stands at his tallest. How much is the question. 1/4 inch? 1/2 inch? Both of them are pretty arguable, IMO, but 6'2.75 I think is a bit optimistic...

As for Boris, he looks no more than 3 cms shorter than Kobe, and that's taking into account his footwear that doesn't look much different than Kobe's and giving Kobe the benefit of doubt that he's not gaining any height by going up slightly on his left foot... That being said, although you can certainly say that 192 range doesn't seem impossible with Kobe, I certainly wouldn't give him any less than the current listing, considering that he basically looks at least that mark with everyone else and in fact one of the most genuine and solid 6'4 celebrities on here (just like a Jared Padalecki)...

Canson said on 7/Mar/18

@Celebheights 6’1.5: some good points you made! My guess for Idris is 6’2.25 maybe 6’2.5. Andrea said may have measured 6’2.5. Could be true and could be 6’2.25 at a low. Boris to me looks at least 1.5 shorter than Kobe and has a footwear advantage. Even if the difference is like 3cm still makes him around 6’3.25 but my guess would be solid 6’3. Strong 6’2” means more like 6’2.25 tho not a flat 6’2”



Click Here said on 7/Mar/18@Celebheights 6’1.5: some good points you made! My guess for Idris is 6’2.25 maybe 6’2.5. Andrea said may have measured 6’2.5. Could be true and could be 6’2.25 at a low. Boris to me looks at least 1.5 shorter than Kobe and has a footwear advantage. Even if the difference is like 3cm still makes him around 6’3.25 but my guess would be solid 6’3. Strong 6’2” means more like 6’2.25 tho not a flat 6’2”

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Mar/18

By the way, since you said that you met Carmelo Anthony down below, how cool was he in person? Is he the only NBA player that you’ve met before?

Andrea said on 6/Mar/18

Well, although you can certainly say that none of them is impossible, there's a lot more chance of Idris being as low as "a strong 6'2" than Boris being below 6'4...

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Mar/18

@Canson While I will agree that Idris Elba does appear to be 6’2” flat by a 6’6 1/4” measured Carmelo Anthony, I highly doubt that he’s only a strong 6’2”. Chris Hemsworth doesn’t appear to be any taller than Idris Elba, and he clears Tom Hiddleston by at least a full inch in Thor. If he was a flat 6’2” like he claimed, then Tom and Chris (along with so many other celebrities) would desperately need to get downgraded quickly. I’ll agree that 6’2 3/4” is possible over 6’3”, but I wouldn’t go any lower than that. Carmelo Anthony has a tendency to make celebrities appear shorter than their listings for some odd reason, as I remember that he made Ashton Kutcher appear as if he was 187 CM tall AT MOST (which we can all agree isn’t physically possible.



As for Boris Kodjoe, I could see him at 6’3 3/4” considering all of the evidence that you’ve posted of him appearing to be under 6’4” below. He frequently doesn’t appear to be as tall as 6’4” by most measured celebrities when the photos aren’t distorted. Especially if you look at the photos of Rick Fox who is listed as 6’7”, which likely means that he’s around 6’6” without shoes since the general rule is that the heights that most players get listed at in the NBA are in shoes + a possible round up. Therefore, I really don’t think that it’s insane to estimate his height as being below 6’4”.

Andrea said on 5/Mar/18

Boris looked comfortably over an inch taller than Idris in that movie they did together, no less than 1.5 inches I'd say...

That being said, I highly doubt that Idris is as tall as 6'3, especially considering that he himself claimed to be 6'2, 6'2.5 and nearly 6'3. Somewhere between 6'2 and 6'3 is believable, but no taller than that. Actually, considering that he came out with such a precise mark as 6'2.5, 6'2.5 would be a more appropriate listing for him (rather than the current 6'2.75 one), IMO...

Canson said on 4/Mar/18

@Celebheights 6’1.5: idris looks just a strong 6’2” to tell you the truth. Look at the pic with Carmelo Anthony and that’s a solid 4” difference. I met Melo and if he isn’t the full 6’6.25 he for sure isn’t less than a solid 6’6” at his low. Boris is likely a flat 6’3” when you factor in Kobe edges him by about 1.5 and Boris has a footwear advantage

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 3/Mar/18

If Idris Elba is really 6’2 1/2” like a lot of people believe (which I don’t, as he looks 6’3” to me) then Boris is 6’3 1/2”.

viper said on 1/Mar/18

Never thought of him as OJ. I thought somebody like Morris Chestnut would have been a way better choice to play OJ than Cuba.

MJKoP said on 28/Feb/18

This guy is currently shooting a movie where he plays OJ Simpson! I guess they can't complain about the actor being too short anymore(*cough, cough* Cuba Gooding Jr.)!

Agent Orange said on 16/Feb/18

@Christian

Hey man if I offended then sorry no hard feelings. I kinda reacted to the negative comments that were circling around at the time.

Andrea said on 14/Feb/18

LOL, sure thing, Christian. Sure thing... You really are hopeless, LMFAO!

Canson said on 13/Feb/18

Hmmm Andrea. Sounds like exactly what you do. Going and resurrecting posts of other people having disagreements with others to try and discredit them. That’s exactly what you did to me. Like Christian said anything that is posted here or anyone who posts here who disagrees with you direct those types of statements toward. Like Christian said, you think you’re “entitled” because some of your estimates ended up being true.funny how you say “there are no pictures of him looking less than 6’4” when there clearly are. You have to resort to diminishing and lying saying things like that when the pics don’t support your narrative just to attempt to prove your point.

Andrea said on 12/Feb/18

Kappa! 😊 👍

Like I said, your comments speak for themselves...

Canson said on 10/Feb/18

@Andrea: that link on YouTube was completely unnecessary. And you call others childish? Really? You wonder why Christian responds back to you because you provoke him to

Canson said on 10/Feb/18

While I agree that this discussion has gone on too long, I feel that each one of us contributed something negative, including you Andrea, and Including me. Ending it may be a good thing but when you say you’ve reached this point or that point, you’re making it sound as if Christian antagonized this when he didn’t. The things that he is saying back to you are in response to the things that you are telling him. I’m saying that because you said the same things to me as well. To be fair, we don’t agree with you which is why you say what you do and you don’t agree with us which is fine.

Andrea said on 10/Feb/18

Hell, Christian,

Goodbye, Christian! 😊 said on 10/Feb/18Hell, Christian, Click Here ! 😟 To be honest, I'm just done wasting my breath on you. I definitely gave you too much importance and attention. A lot more than what you actually deserve. You clearly don't have the necessary knowledge to understand a lot of things, so I'm done talking to a wall of ignorance. That being said, unfortunately for you, most comments of yours are still here, so I'm sure that any person with half a brain understands who really is guilty of those things you love accusing me of. Your comments speak for themselves. 👍Goodbye, Christian! 😊

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/Feb/18

@Andrea



Not only you’re biased, make excuses, and be a hypocrite, but now you’re being a weak coward. Are you gonna just run away from a discussion just because your little feelings were hurt? I get that this discussion is becoming way too long, but it seems like you ran out of words at this point and your only option is to cop out. I honestly expected it from you.

Andrea said on 7/Feb/18

Rob, since this seems to have become Shawne Merriman's page lately, why don't you just give him a page? 😊

Editor Rob Editor Rob Well, maybe it would be interesting to see what people guessed him at.



I think half the time he slouches in photos and simply never stands as tall as he can. said on 7/Feb/18Rob, since this seems to have become Shawne Merriman's page lately, why don't you just give him a page? 😊

Andrea said on 7/Feb/18

Whatever you say, Christian. I was going to reply again, but it's a no brainer that this discussion will never end in this way, so I'll take the lead on this and get out of this stupid and useless discussion. I've reached a point where I really couldn't care less of what you say. You think I'm biased? That's fine. You think I lie? That's fine. You think I make excuses? That's fine. I don't care.

Have a good life!

Canson said on 6/Feb/18

@Checker: I believed you all along the Merriman isn’t as tall as Davis. No need to convince me lol. Andrea is the one who needs it. Look at my post a few days back too. I put up a pic of Dexter Manley and Shawne. Davis looks the same with him as Manley does. I met Manley as a kid and he looked pretty close to my father in height. My dad used to be a legit 6’4” maybe still at worst 6’3.75 today in his late 60s. But I even asked my dad and he said Manley is about 6’3” when we met him back in the late 80s

checker said on 5/Feb/18

Marcus Allen is under 6'2 as I have researched and still looks taller than Merriman. said on 5/Feb/18Marcus Allen is under 6'2 as I have researched and still looks taller than Merriman. Click Here

checker said on 5/Feb/18

Hey Canson, remember when I told you Ricky Jackson looks 6'1 in person, and not his listed 6'2.



Well Im subscribed to newspapers.com and he was measured at 6'1 back in 1980.

checker said on 5/Feb/18

Canson, dont you think Vernon looks taller here.



I scoped out that pic to even show Vernon is taller. said on 5/Feb/18Canson, dont you think Vernon looks taller here. Click Here I scoped out that pic to even show Vernon is taller.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 4/Feb/18

@Canson



I appreciate that and I feel the same about you

Canson said on 4/Feb/18

@Christian: and that’s why I also respect you as a poster more than the majority here

Canson said on 4/Feb/18

Shawne Merriman with 6’3” Dexter Manley. Same type of pics as the ones with Vernon Davis and he’s clearly shorter than Manley



Click Here said on 4/Feb/18Shawne Merriman with 6’3” Dexter Manley. Same type of pics as the ones with Vernon Davis and he’s clearly shorter than Manley

Canson said on 4/Feb/18

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Davis is leaning in both of those pics. Merriman is not taller than him or even as tall. said on 4/Feb/18Davis is leaning in both of those pics. Merriman is not taller than him or even as tall.

Canson said on 4/Feb/18

@Andrea: are you really accusing Christian of cherry picking? Ok so what do we say about you making all types of excuses such as “Jamie Foxx possibly having lifts” or you “noticing a footwear difference with Boris and Barkley” but not an obvious difference with Kobe and Boris? And yes of course you agree with or side with tunman and Ajay because they don’t challenge you on anything. If they believe he is 6’4” (only Tunman actually said it not Ajay actually) you will approve because they support your narrative.

Andrea said on 3/Feb/18

Exactly, 'Ajay'. And that is just one of the many pictures (or videos) where Boris looks a solid 6'4, but again Christian loves to disregard inconvenient photos and cherry-pick certain photos that somehow prove his point. I mean, he's the same guy who thinks that Shawne Merriman is around an inch shorter than Vernon Davis, despite two good pictures speaking otherwise: said on 3/Feb/18Exactly, 'Ajay'. And that is just one of the many pictures (or videos) where Boris looks a solid 6'4, but again Christian loves to disregard inconvenient photos and cherry-pick certain photos that somehow prove his point. I mean, he's the same guy who thinks that Shawne Merriman is around an inch shorter than Vernon Davis, despite two good pictures speaking otherwise: Click Here Click Here And he even has the nerve of calling me biased, LMFAO. I wonder who still takes him seriously, apart from his bff Canson and the rest of the "dream team" he created in these months, of course!

Andrea said on 3/Feb/18

And Juggernaut is definitely not the only guy you've accused of being a fanboy or wanting this or that celebrity taller than they are. You did it with a good number of posters on here. And you did it with me too, before this discussion, on Michael Rosenbaum's page. All of that because you think that your opinions are the only truth and you can't accept that other people disagree with you. And again, what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. So according to your fuc*ed up "logic", you too, you need consensus and people agreeing with you, which is already quite clear by other actions and comments of yours, btw.

And don't worry. Those posters that I respect and appreciate have a brain (have you ever heard about it?), so I'm sure they do realize who is the big fool on here! 😉👍

Canson said on 3/Feb/18

@Ajay: then a pic with Michael Jordan, Jamie Foxx or Kobe Bryant reinforces that he’s not 6’4”. Nobody truly knows to be honest.

Ajay said on 2/Feb/18

What's with this insanity in the comments section? You guys have been arguing for at least a year now over his height from what I recall. By the way Christian, that pic you posted with Haysbert just enforces the idea that Boris is a solid 6'4

Canson said on 2/Feb/18

@Christian: notice 6’3.25 too? That’s closer to 192 than the 6’3 estimate that Checker said was his max he could be. Andrea also used his estimate with Magic as “proof” because “Viper” was used to underestimating people in the past that Boris may be 6’4” before he provided that now he’s all of a sudden not a credible poster. Then you have Bobby who guessed him max 6’2.75. Both Bobby and Checker/Viper guessed him below what Mr R did. So what I’m reading and probably everyone else that has seen the posts is that the further away someone is from 6’4 or 192cm that the more “ridiculous” and less “credible” the person is. And it’s even worse when the person has responded back to Andrea or disagreed with him (Bobby never did that). Notice how Andrea simply disagreed with Mr R and Junior when they guessed him 6’3.25 nor did he include him in his last post to you about people who don’t take him seriously and think he is full of crap. Those two in addition to Bobby didn’t respond back to him. However Bennett and Viper (in addition to you and I) have all responded back, challenged, and called him out. Instead it was you me Bennett and Viper and only because us three didn’t agree with him (he didn’t mention Bobby3342 because he’s never had any interaction with him). Instead he put him in the same category as Mr. R not being credible because he’s guessed a few celebs “out of alignment with what he believes”.

Canson said on 2/Feb/18

@Christian: that shouldn’t be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesn’t look 6’4 doesn’t count as a “picture” or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesn’t want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue it’s the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it



As far as Mr R., his estimates were more reliable (emphasis on the word more) until he estimated Boris at “a little over 6’3”. You’ll see below in one of his posts where Andrea then brings to light all of the bad guesses he’s made over the years to discredit him as a poster and disqualify his estimate on Boris

Canson said on 2/Feb/18

@Christian: that shouldn’t be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesn’t look 6’4 doesn’t count as a “picture” or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesn’t want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue it’s the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 2/Feb/18

@Andrea



That's certainly not true when you said Boris never looks under 192. He looks under it with many people other than just Akon and Jamie, such as 6'2.4" measured Shawne Merriman, 6'4 5/8" measured Charles Barkley, 6'4.75" measured Kobe Bryant, 6'11" Dirk Nowitzski, 6'9.75" listed John Isner, 5'8" listed Usher (although he looks taller in a different pic), 6'0.5" listed Michael Jai White (even the pic you posted he looks a bit under 192)

And so just because Bobby guessed one or two celebs off, that qualifies him as a bad guesser? Yet you called Mr. R a credible and genuine poster when he guessed like 5 different celebs off? To be fair, he did guess Boris as 6'3.25" in person so I doubt he's that bad of a guesser. Now I understand that Bobby's estimates for the most part seem believable based on my OPINION, but so is your 6'4" estimate for Boris, it's simply an OPINION.

And it's totally laughable how you say Shawne's dropping more height than Shilique. First of all, you can't see his legs, so why do you jump to conclusions that he was dropping leg height? Yet Kobe visibly had one of his knees bent in the pic with Boris, but you say he's not dropping height because of that and if anything he's gaining height??

And I don't need anyone to be on my "team" really. I don't need validation or approval from anyone. And besides, what's the point of me trying to get Rampage into my "team" when he never even had arguements with you on Boris' page? The reason why Rampage's discussion with me ended is because unlike you, he didn't act immature or like an entitled brat. Now I didn't like the fact that he said I sucked at estimating height, but I felt he was just expressing his brutally honest opinion. I've had many disagreements with many different posters in the past, but the majority of them didn't escalate so much because those people didn't quite act like the way you did. Sorry, but nothing's more arrogant and egotistic than saying that you'll bet all of your money if Boris turned out to be 6'3", or that if he turned out to be 6'3" you'll never show up to this site again due to embarrassment, or that because almost all of your estimates for celebs turned out to be true when Rob met them, that it's going to be the case for Boris as well.

And the only time I imply that people are fanboys is when they give impossible estimates, when Juggernaut said Brock Lesnar's 6'2.75" which is impossible since he was measured 6'2.25" at the NFL draft. Or when posters were saying Barkley's 6'6" or 6'6"-6'7" which is impossible since he was measured 6'4 5/8". If people dislike me over that, then that's their own issue. And you claim that you don't need consensus or people agreeing with you, but your actions say the opposite when you've ran to Rob many many times asking him how tall a celeb is or the height difference between celebs. (and you've been doing this for years) I won't be surprised at all if the posters you "respect" and "appreciate" already see you for what you really are, but they just don't speak out about it yet. Let's be real, you've made yourself look like a big fool throughout this discussion. said on 2/Feb/18@AndreaThat's certainly not true when you said Boris never looks under 192. He looks under it with many people other than just Akon and Jamie, such as 6'2.4" measured Shawne Merriman, 6'4 5/8" measured Charles Barkley, 6'4.75" measured Kobe Bryant, 6'11" Dirk Nowitzski, 6'9.75" listed John Isner, 5'8" listed Usher (although he looks taller in a different pic), 6'0.5" listed Michael Jai White (even the pic you posted he looks a bit under 192)And so just because Bobby guessed one or two celebs off, that qualifies him as a bad guesser? Yet you called Mr. R a credible and genuine poster when he guessed like 5 different celebs off? To be fair, he did guess Boris as 6'3.25" in person so I doubt he's that bad of a guesser. Now I understand that Bobby's estimates for the most part seem believable based on my OPINION, but so is your 6'4" estimate for Boris, it's simply an OPINION.And it's totally laughable how you say Shawne's dropping more height than Shilique. First of all, you can't see his legs, so why do you jump to conclusions that he was dropping leg height? Yet Kobe visibly had one of his knees bent in the pic with Boris, but you say he's not dropping height because of that and if anything he's gaining height?? Click Here Time and time again, you just prove my point when I say that you're biased and like to pick and choose what fits your narrative. Btw, it's clear that Shilique's losing more height than Shawne in the upper body because it's visible, unlike the legs.And I don't need anyone to be on my "team" really. I don't need validation or approval from anyone. And besides, what's the point of me trying to get Rampage into my "team" when he never even had arguements with you on Boris' page? The reason why Rampage's discussion with me ended is because unlike you, he didn't act immature or like an entitled brat. Now I didn't like the fact that he said I sucked at estimating height, but I felt he was just expressing his brutally honest opinion. I've had many disagreements with many different posters in the past, but the majority of them didn't escalate so much because those people didn't quite act like the way you did. Sorry, but nothing's more arrogant and egotistic than saying that you'll bet all of your money if Boris turned out to be 6'3", or that if he turned out to be 6'3" you'll never show up to this site again due to embarrassment, or that because almost all of your estimates for celebs turned out to be true when Rob met them, that it's going to be the case for Boris as well.And the only time I imply that people are fanboys is when they give impossible estimates, when Juggernaut said Brock Lesnar's 6'2.75" which is impossible since he was measured 6'2.25" at the NFL draft. Or when posters were saying Barkley's 6'6" or 6'6"-6'7" which is impossible since he was measured 6'4 5/8". If people dislike me over that, then that's their own issue. And you claim that you don't need consensus or people agreeing with you, but your actions say the opposite when you've ran to Rob many many times asking him how tall a celeb is or the height difference between celebs. (and you've been doing this for years) I won't be surprised at all if the posters you "respect" and "appreciate" already see you for what you really are, but they just don't speak out about it yet. Let's be real, you've made yourself look like a big fool throughout this discussion.

Canson said on 2/Feb/18

@Andrea: re: the end of your response to Christian, the feeling is very mutual between us.

checker said on 1/Feb/18

What are the 2 pics where Vernon looks taller than Merriman. The one had Vernon almost cut off from the camera, lol.



And James Vanderbeek is around 5'10-5'11. He looked it on Dawsons Creek with 6'0 John Wesley Shipp.



Andrea, thats bare minimum 1 to 2 inches between Merriman and Shilique. If Shilique had the same posture as Merriman he would be looking 2+ inches taller.

Andrea said on 1/Feb/18

Trust me, Christian. I'm very tired of this discussion too. I totally understand Rob's decision about not retrieving the old comments on Ray's page, but I'm 100% sure that I've NEVER mentioned that thing before because I never really cared about it. And since you like it when I say that, I would bet all my money on that too...

I always compare Jared to Boris because both of them look two of the most genuine 6'4 on here. And both of them rarely look as low as 6'3, maybe even never. Speaking of Boris, the lowest he can look is 192 next to Kobe and Barkley, if you exclude those two pictures of him with Jamie Foxx and Akon (where he admittedly can look as low as 6'2-6'3). And I don't care if 3 or even 4 people said that they met Boris and that he's around 6'3. Again, who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Funny how you refer to Bobbyh3342 as a 6'4.25 guy, as if you personally had measured him. Giving some estimates that, IN YOUR OPINION, are believable doesn't automatically make him legit or something. I never had the chance of talking to him and I have nothing against him, but he's the same guy who guessed Kim Coates just over 2 inches shorter than Boris "in person" (at 6'0.5), so I certainly wouldn't say that all of his estimates seem very believable.

As for Shilique's picture, I'm pretty sure that you already knew that there's some tilt in Shilique's favor, LOL. I tried to straighten the picture and I maintain my "around an inch" guess:

And of course I would completely rule out 6'5 for Boris, now that I have seen more pictures of him. Just like I completely rule out 6'3. I guess the way he looks with those guys (Durand, Coates and Haysbert) speaks more about their listings than Boris'...

And don't worry. I already took a look at that exchange of views between you and Rampage on Kagame's page and I found it very amusing, I must say. Funny how you both were going to start a new discussion with each other there, but as soon as Rampage realized that you had defended him against me on here (which you clearly did just to attack me and to have him in your "team"), he took back everything he said (including the marvelous "Christian, as always you suck at estimating height" statement) and the discussion just ended there, LMFAO. Same thing for you. Getting back to this extremely long discussion, sure, me too, I have my "responsibilities" and maybe I could have avoided saying certain things, but everything I said was a direct consequence of what you said. So again, don't even try to pin all of this on me. Fact is that I've been on here for a much longer time than you and I've never had such a long and heated discussion. With anyone... Your arrogance certainly plays/played a big role in it. In fact, you're one of the most arrogant posters I've ever seen on here and you always speak as if what you say is the only truth and when someone tries to have a normal discussion and disagrees with you, you simply attack them and come out with stupid comments like "you are a fanboy", "you just want him/her to be taller", etc. No wonder that you are so disliked on here. As for people sticking up for me or not, I honestly don't need it, unlike someone else. I'm a quite confident person and I certainly don't need consensus or people agreeing with me. And if posters like Viper, Bennett or even Canson think that I'm full of crap... I'm just glad about it. It means I'm doing it right. The day posters that I truly respect and appreciate will start thinking that way, maybe I'll start worrying about it. ;) said on 1/Feb/18Trust me, Christian. I'm very tired of this discussion too. I totally understand Rob's decision about not retrieving the old comments on Ray's page, but I'm 100% sure that I've NEVER mentioned that thing before because I never really cared about it. And since you like it when I say that, I would bet all my money on that too...I always compare Jared to Boris because both of them look two of the most genuine 6'4 on here. And both of them rarely look as low as 6'3, maybe even never. Speaking of Boris, the lowest he can look is 192 next to Kobe and Barkley, if you exclude those two pictures of him with Jamie Foxx and Akon (where he admittedly can look as low as 6'2-6'3). And I don't care if 3 or even 4 people said that they met Boris and that he's around 6'3. Again, who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Funny how you refer to Bobbyh3342 as a 6'4.25 guy, as if you personally had measured him. Giving some estimates that, IN YOUR OPINION, are believable doesn't automatically make him legit or something. I never had the chance of talking to him and I have nothing against him, but he's the same guy who guessed Kim Coates just over 2 inches shorter than Boris "in person" (at 6'0.5), so I certainly wouldn't say that all of his estimates seem very believable. Click Here As for Boris' agencies listings, as I said, we've already been there. Christopher Lee wasn't listed at 6'4 (or over) until later in his career as well. And he's just one of the many examples...As for Shilique's picture, I'm pretty sure that you already knew that there's some tilt in Shilique's favor, LOL. I tried to straighten the picture and I maintain my "around an inch" guess: Click Here I can see 3 cms (which is still around an inch), but not much more than that. And of course I'm taking into consideration their postures. In fact, I would say that Shawne is dropping more height than Shilique there, judging by his legs (or what you can see of them).And of course I would completely rule out 6'5 for Boris, now that I have seen more pictures of him. Just like I completely rule out 6'3. I guess the way he looks with those guys (Durand, Coates and Haysbert) speaks more about their listings than Boris'...And don't worry. I already took a look at that exchange of views between you and Rampage on Kagame's page and I found it very amusing, I must say. Funny how you both were going to start a new discussion with each other there, but as soon as Rampage realized that you had defended him against me on here (which you clearly did just to attack me and to have him in your "team"), he took back everything he said (including the marvelous "Christian, as always you suck at estimating height" statement) and the discussion just ended there, LMFAO. Same thing for you. Getting back to this extremely long discussion, sure, me too, I have my "responsibilities" and maybe I could have avoided saying certain things, but everything I said was a direct consequence of what you said. So again, don't even try to pin all of this on me. Fact is that I've been on here for a much longer time than you and I've never had such a long and heated discussion. With anyone... Your arrogance certainly plays/played a big role in it. In fact, you're one of the most arrogant posters I've ever seen on here and you always speak as if what you say is the only truth and when someone tries to have a normal discussion and disagrees with you, you simply attack them and come out with stupid comments like "you are a fanboy", "you just want him/her to be taller", etc. No wonder that you are so disliked on here. As for people sticking up for me or not, I honestly don't need it, unlike someone else. I'm a quite confident person and I certainly don't need consensus or people agreeing with me. And if posters like Viper, Bennett or even Canson think that I'm full of crap... I'm just glad about it. It means I'm doing it right. The day posters that I truly respect and appreciate will start thinking that way, maybe I'll start worrying about it. ;)

Canson said on 31/Jan/18

@Christian: well said!

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 30/Jan/18

@Andrea



I'm not lying. I know for certain that you brought it up on Ray's page. I'd like Rob to retrive the older comments as well, but it's best to just leave him alone since he's obviously starting to get tired of our never-ending heated discussion.

And I don't know why you love to compare Jared to Boris as if they're in the same boat. The differences between the two is that Boris looks about 6'3" next to some people, while Jared very rarely looks as low as that next to anyone, maybe even never. And several people (at least 3 or 4) said Boris is around 6'3" or less in person, while only one person who met Jared said he looked 6'3" and the rest (at least 4) said he looked 6'4". Btw Bobbyh3342 met both Boris and Jared and said Boris looked 6'2.75" and Jared a good 6'4". And he's a credible poster because all of his estimates seem very believable if you see those celebs standing next to others in pics. And he's a very tall guy himself (about 6'4.25") so he can easily tell the difference between a 6'2.75" and a 6'4" guy. And I know that some taller models get underlisted on agencies, but with Boris, if they're gonna underlist him, why list him at 3 different heights? He should've just got listed 6'2" and be done with it. But they also listed him 6'2.5" and 6'3", which leads me to believe that they are more accurate listings. He wasn't listed 6'4" until later in his career.

And I already know that the tilt in the pic favors Shilique a bit, but you also have to consider that he's dropping a bit more height than Shawne because he's hunching more. You can ask any poster on this site and most will tell you that Shilique looks about 1.5" taller than Shawne there. If you don't believe me, go ask. And I'm not the one being biased because I acknowledged that Shawne looks taller than Vernon in those two pics, I just said that Vernon's actually taller than Shawne in my opinion. (It's the same thing as you believeing that Shawne's an inch shorter than Barkley despite there's a pic where the difference looks 2"+, I wouldn't call you biased over that so don't call me biased either) You on the other hand are biased about the Shawne and Shilique pic, because you purposefully diminished the height difference to 1" when it's clearly 1.5" in the pic.

And it's hilarious how you think 6'5" is possible for Boris yet 6'3" is impossible when there are more pics of him looking 6'3" then there are pics of him looking 6'5", plus Boris himself never claimed or listed in any agency as 6'5".

And I wasn't using Rampage against you. I've always respected him as a poster since I first saw joined this site. I just disagree with some of his estimates, and we had a few minor arguments here and there, but he apologized to me and appreciates me for defending him and now we're cool with each other. Take a look at the comments on Paul Kagame's page said on 30/Jan/18@AndreaI'm not lying. I know for certain that you brought it up on Ray's page. I'd like Rob to retrive the older comments as well, but it's best to just leave him alone since he's obviously starting to get tired of our never-ending heated discussion.And I don't know why you love to compare Jared to Boris as if they're in the same boat. The differences between the two is that Boris looks about 6'3" next to some people, while Jared very rarely looks as low as that next to anyone, maybe even never. And several people (at least 3 or 4) said Boris is around 6'3" or less in person, while only one person who met Jared said he looked 6'3" and the rest (at least 4) said he looked 6'4". Btw Bobbyh3342 met both Boris and Jared and said Boris looked 6'2.75" and Jared a good 6'4". And he's a credible poster because all of his estimates seem very believable if you see those celebs standing next to others in pics. And he's a very tall guy himself (about 6'4.25") so he can easily tell the difference between a 6'2.75" and a 6'4" guy. And I know that some taller models get underlisted on agencies, but with Boris, if they're gonna underlist him, why list him at 3 different heights? He should've just got listed 6'2" and be done with it. But they also listed him 6'2.5" and 6'3", which leads me to believe that they are more accurate listings. He wasn't listed 6'4" until later in his career.And I already know that the tilt in the pic favors Shilique a bit, but you also have to consider that he's dropping a bit more height than Shawne because he's hunching more. You can ask any poster on this site and most will tell you that Shilique looks about 1.5" taller than Shawne there. If you don't believe me, go ask. And I'm not the one being biased because I acknowledged that Shawne looks taller than Vernon in those two pics, I just said that Vernon's actually taller than Shawne in my opinion. (It's the same thing as you believeing that Shawne's an inch shorter than Barkley despite there's a pic where the difference looks 2"+, I wouldn't call you biased over that so don't call me biased either) You on the other hand are biased about the Shawne and Shilique pic, because you purposefully diminished the height difference to 1" when it's clearly 1.5" in the pic.And it's hilarious how you think 6'5" is possible for Boris yet 6'3" is impossible when there are more pics of him looking 6'3" then there are pics of him looking 6'5", plus Boris himself never claimed or listed in any agency as 6'5".And I wasn't using Rampage against you. I've always respected him as a poster since I first saw joined this site. I just disagree with some of his estimates, and we had a few minor arguments here and there, but he apologized to me and appreciates me for defending him and now we're cool with each other. Take a look at the comments on Paul Kagame's page Click Here Our disagreement could've ended in the same manner that Rampage's did, but unlike him, you started acting immature and calling me names. Whether you started it or not, one thing for sure is that you escalated it. Now I'm not perfect and I've said a few things that were unecessary, but at least I own up to it. You however, think that you're entitled and think you deserve some type of respect or admiration just because most celebs you estimated supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them. And you wonder why no one sticked up for you in our discussion. Canson, Viper/Checker, Bennett/Junior among others realize that you're full of crap.

Canson said on 30/Jan/18

@Christian: another one where 6’2 7/8 combine TO is leaning in more and looks “just about as tall as Boris”. If Boris has an advantage it’s very little here once the tilt is addressed. I don’t see TO much under this mark



Click Here said on 30/Jan/18@Christian: another one where 6’2 7/8 combine TO is leaning in more and looks “just about as tall as Boris”. If Boris has an advantage it’s very little here once the tilt is addressed. I don’t see TO much under this mark

Canson said on 30/Jan/18

There are times when he can look 6’4” but other times when he looks 6’2 range like 6’2.5 for example. And others when he looks in the 6’3” range. Then again he can look 6’5+ at times like Christian said. His height is all over the place but being there’s a footwear advantage with Kobe he really can look 6’3 there and 6’3 with Barkley.

Tunman said on 30/Jan/18

Yeah,he generally looks around 6'4 more than anything else,well he could turn to be slightly smaller than Jared Padalecki.Still I think he looked only 191,5 with Kobe,that's the lowest arguable imo.Anything under this is really a joke,he just consistantly looks near 6'4.Perhaps a slight downgrage to 192 is possible but not under.

Andrea said on 27/Jan/18

Rob, I know this can be very annoying (and childish), but can you please retrieve the older comments on Ray's page too? For me, it could have ended there, but since Christian keeps lying, lying and lying... I'm curious to see what his next excuse is. Maybe he'll start saying that I said it on another page, after being exposed on Ray's page too, LOL.

And, Christian, since you agree (even though it certainly doesn't look like it) that posters claiming to have met celebs isn't evidence, I don't see how they can be useful for determining heights of celebs. Unless you are able to answer to those questions with certainty (Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met this or that celebrity in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person?), we're talking about nothing. The reason why I think that both Boris and Jared are 6'4 is because they constantly look as tall as that, no matter if a few random people say that they are more 6'3 "in person". As for his agencies' listings, we've already been there. Both modeling and acting agencies sometimes downplay people's heights, when they are too tall. Just to take one example, I personally know a guy who is 192, but he describes himself as 189 on his modeling agency (and 195 on his basketball profile). What about Christopher Lee? At the beginning of his career, he was listed at 6'3 on his agency. According to your logic, he couldn't have been more than 6'3, although he's supposed to have been even over 6'4.

As for Shilique's picture, I repeat what I said. He looks maybe around an inch taller than Shawne there, but I doubt as much as 1.5 or over. And I'm saying that based on the fact that there is some tilt in Shilique's favor. Something that you obviously aren't aware of. If you look at the billboard in the background, I think it's quite clear. It's a bit similar to what is happening here with Sonny Bill Williams and Valerie Adams:

And I don't know how many times I have to tell you, but that old comment of me asking if 6'5 was possible for Boris was STRICTLY RELATED to Durand's, Coates' and Haysbert's listings. Assuming that those people are as tall as their listings (and again, I'm sure that in the past all three were listed even higher than they are now), 6'5 certainly doesn't seem unbelievable, so I don't see how you can say that I failed there, LOL. And don't worry, I do not pretend that post never existed. In fact, I do not regret anything I've posted throughout these years and I'm very proud of every comment of mine (except for maybe some of my first comments).

And for the last time, don't pin all of this on me. You're the one who started it by saying that I just want Boris to be 6'4 and by calling my 6'4 estimate "BS". All of this just because I didn't agree with you. As for Willes, I was clearly being ironic when I answered to his "Thanks for sticking up to the community" BS and I explained it just after: "As for Willes, I was being ironic there and I thought it was quite clear. Having read a few of his comments in the past, I know what kind of poster he is and I honestly don't give a f**k about what he says. That's what I generally do when I see certain people commenting on this site and coming out with pathetic estimates/statements. I just ignore them.". So I don't see how you can say that I took his side, considering that I explicitly said that I don't give a f**k about what he says. Is this your idea of taking someone's side? LMFAO And again, it's funny that you try to make that argument against me, considering that you did the exact same thing you're accusing me of (and in your case, you did it for real) with Rampage. I mean, you and Rampage had bad blood in the past as well, but as soon as you realized that you could have used him against me, you started to say that you respect him and you like him and other BS, and even took his side in my old discussions with him. Again, your hypocrisy really has no limits.

P.S. Canson, you really are hopeless...

Editor Rob Editor Rob Sorry, it was a one-off the last time and I'm not really wanting this argument to be never-ending, I have let it go on hoping it would have fizzled out by now. said on 27/Jan/18Rob, I know this can be very annoying (and childish), but can you please retrieve the older comments on Ray's page too? For me, it could have ended there, but since Christian keeps lying, lying and lying... I'm curious to see what his next excuse is. Maybe he'll start saying that I said it on another page, after being exposed on Ray's page too, LOL.And, Christian, since you agree (even though it certainly doesn't look like it) that posters claiming to have met celebs isn't evidence, I don't see how they can be useful for determining heights of celebs. Unless you are able to answer to those questions with certainty (Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met this or that celebrity in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person?), we're talking about nothing. The reason why I think that both Boris and Jared are 6'4 is because they constantly look as tall as that, no matter if a few random people say that they are more 6'3 "in person". As for his agencies' listings, we've already been there. Both modeling and acting agencies sometimes downplay people's heights, when they are too tall. Just to take one example, I personally know a guy who is 192, but he describes himself as 189 on his modeling agency (and 195 on his basketball profile). What about Christopher Lee? At the beginning of his career, he was listed at 6'3 on his agency. According to your logic, he couldn't have been more than 6'3, although he's supposed to have been even over 6'4.As for Shilique's picture, I repeat what I said. He looks maybe around an inch taller than Shawne there, but I doubt as much as 1.5 or over. And I'm saying that based on the fact that there is some tilt in Shilique's favor. Something that you obviously aren't aware of. If you look at the billboard in the background, I think it's quite clear. It's a bit similar to what is happening here with Sonny Bill Williams and Valerie Adams: Click Here I'm sure you would have said that Valerie looks near 2 inches taller than Sonny there, but she isn't because, like Rob said, the background favours the left and puts anybody on the right at a disadvantage. Same thing is going on in Shilique's picture. So it's not the case of me being biased, but more the case of you having no clue about camera tricks, LMFAO. Plus, it's funny that you even have the nerve to say that I'm biased, considering that you are the same guy who still says that Vernon Davis is taller than Shawne Merriman despite two good pictures saying the opposite. If that is not being biased, I don't know what it is.And I don't know how many times I have to tell you, but that old comment of me asking if 6'5 was possible for Boris was STRICTLY RELATED to Durand's, Coates' and Haysbert's listings. Assuming that those people are as tall as their listings (and again, I'm sure that in the past all three were listed even higher than they are now), 6'5 certainly doesn't seem unbelievable, so I don't see how you can say that I failed there, LOL. And don't worry, I do not pretend that post never existed. In fact, I do not regret anything I've posted throughout these years and I'm very proud of every comment of mine (except for maybe some of my first comments).And for the last time, don't pin all of this on me. You're the one who started it by saying that I just want Boris to be 6'4 and by calling my 6'4 estimate "BS". All of this just because I didn't agree with you. As for Willes, I was clearly being ironic when I answered to his "Thanks for sticking up to the community" BS and I explained it just after: "As for Willes, I was being ironic there and I thought it was quite clear. Having read a few of his comments in the past, I know what kind of poster he is and I honestly don't give a f**k about what he says. That's what I generally do when I see certain people commenting on this site and coming out with pathetic estimates/statements. I just ignore them.". So I don't see how you can say that I took his side, considering that I explicitly said that I don't give a f**k about what he says. Is this your idea of taking someone's side? LMFAO And again, it's funny that you try to make that argument against me, considering that you did the exact same thing you're accusing me of (and in your case, you did it for real) with Rampage. I mean, you and Rampage had bad blood in the past as well, but as soon as you realized that you could have used him against me, you started to say that you respect him and you like him and other BS, and even took his side in my old discussions with him. Again, your hypocrisy really has no limits.P.S. Canson, you really are hopeless...

Canson said on 26/Jan/18

@Christian: I almost guarantee if the cameras weren’t up as high as they are that we wouldn’t even see a difference with those two. That’s a cm diff and I do not believe for one second that Boris is taller than Haysbert is. Haysbert looked a legit 6’4” in his peak. Even in Love and Basketball both guys were in the movie and Boris didn’t look as tall with Omar Epps as Haysbert did. Haysbert has more scenes being he played Zeke McCall his father but haysbert looked taller with Epps than Boris did with him when they were at the Senior Prom and he was Sanaa Lathan’s Date

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 26/Jan/18

@Canson



Yet Andrea tries to say that Boris looks an inch taller than Haysbert said on 26/Jan/18@CansonYet Andrea tries to say that Boris looks an inch taller than Haysbert Click Here When it's very clear that Shilique looks taller with Shawne than Boris does with Haysbert.

Canson said on 25/Jan/18

@Christian: I’ve actually brought that up several times with the pic with Boris and Haysbert in comparison with Kobe and Boris and others that Boris is in. Meaning what Andrea says is exaggerated to fit his narrative because comparing it to others it doesn’t add up. Kobe had more difference on Boris than Boris had on Haysbert and not just a cm it’s more than that. That’s nowhere near an inch or even close to 2cm with Boris and Haysbert if Kobe and Boris is only 3cm? Or if Barkley and Boris is only 3-4 (with an alleged shoe difference). Or with Calhoun and Merriman. The last comparison (Merriman and Calhoun) Calhoun has at least 2.5-3 cm more than Boris had on Haysbert which is only about a cm if anything

Canson said on 25/Jan/18

@Checker: that would prob be about a full 2” with the better posture imho. I certainly don’t agree with Andrea that that’s only an inch and none of us 3 you me or Christian see that either. I think you can make an easy case however for 1.5-1.75” based on that with the poor posture and even then it lines up to a potential combine measurement as Merriman 6’2 3/8 and Calhoun being it was a morning measurement prob dips to 6’3 7/8 maybe 6’4. A worst case is that Merriman is the flat 6’2 and Calhoun a flat 6’4 or 6’3 7/8 if better posture. But I’d say that either way that’s more than a solid inch. Anyone can see that even with the bad posture and neck tilt

checker said on 24/Jan/18

Calhoun looks 2 inches taller than Merriman, and would look 2.5 inches taller with better posture.

Canson said on 24/Jan/18

@Andrea: go ahead and ask Rob to retrieve the comments since you’re essentially “threading” Christian with it. You seem like you have to be right and “have to get the last word” when you said do we end it here. Obviously the only way your arguments here have any sort of strength is when you go and solicit Rob’s or someone else’s opinion for reassurance or when you run crying to him to intervene. You have to be “right” and it again proves both of our points that because Christian is once again not agreeing with you you are getting angry. Nobody cares honestly. Btw where do you get Calhoun only having an inch on Merriman? You say we can’t estimate height differences you’re really one to talk. Funny that I am not calling you a liar though despite the fact that three of us here all say it’s more than that yet if that were you, you would be calling me a liar like you have done repeatedly here or dumb like you did on Wayne Brady’s page when I didn’t see the same thing “you did”. You’re just full of excuses and full of sh*t. You don’t fool anyone

Andrea said on 24/Jan/18

You are the one who doesn't pay attention to things, Christian. I brought up the prostitute thing right after you and Canson started to play the victim and that happened on 29/Oct/17. Before then, I'd NEVER mentioned it and I'm pretty sure about that, despite you saying that I did (which is just another lie). You want me to ask Rob to retrieve the older comments on that page too or we end it here? :)

And when it comes to alleged meetings it's not all about "they're telling the truth or not". As I said, there are many variables. Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met this or that celebrity in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Most of the time, you can't answer to all these questions, which is the reason why they are not evidence to me. Speaking of Jared, I completely rule out 6'3 for him. And unlike you, I treat Jared being 6'3 the same way I treat Boris being 6'3. It's not a surprise that they look very similar next to this presenter, in fact: Click Here

And what I said is not an excuse, but I'm certainly not surprised that you call it that way, just like I said. I'm certainly not trying to say that the only reason why Shawne can look as low as 6'2-6'3 is because of that. All I said is that there are some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys. That picture with Shilique Calhoun actually proves my point, considering that Shawne looks maybe around an inch shorter than him there. So, if anything, you are a walking contradiction, LOL.

As for Boris, I can say whatever I want. If I want to say that I would bet all of my money that he would be comfortably taller than 6'3, I say it. And I already explained why. I have certainly seen enough to completely rule it out and nothing that suggests that 6'3 is even remotely possible (not even by 1%). The same goes for me saying that if he ever turned out to be as low as 6'3 flat (let alone under), I would be so shocked that I probably would never come back on here for the embarrassment. The reason why I say that I would never come back on here for the embarrassment is because it never happened so far that I overestimated (or underestimated) a celebrity by an inch (let alone over), but, as I said, basically all celebrities that I have "challenged" in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. I guess I've been just "lucky"... And for the record, I have seen a lot less stuff of those celebrities than what I have seen of Boris. So, if anything, I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities. And for the last time, my 6'5 mention for Boris was closely related to those guys' listings (Kevin Durand, Kim Coates and Dennis Haysbert). It is certainly hard to believe that Boris is as low as 6'4 if those guys are as tall as their listings (and I'm sure that in the past all three were listed even higher than they are now).

And yeah, I did say that you have no clue about height differences there because not only you insisted that there is a clear 2 inches differences when there's really not, but you also insisted that that picture with Kobe was the definite proof that Boris can't be any taller than 6'2.75. Funny how even in that picture you have posted (in comments like the ones you submitted on 26/Aug/17 and on 28/Aug/17), you can see what I was talking about when I said that you're the one who started it by saying that I just want Boris to be 6'4 and and by calling my estimate "BS" (or joke in that case), even though I was referring to some older comments, still on Idris Elba's page, which is where all this discussion started. So again, don't even try to pin it on me. said on 24/Jan/18You are the one who doesn't pay attention to things, Christian. I brought up the prostitute thing right after you and Canson started to play the victim and that happened on 29/Oct/17. Before then, I'd NEVER mentioned it and I'm pretty sure about that, despite you saying that I did (which is just another lie). You want me to ask Rob to retrieve the older comments on that page too or we end it here? :)And when it comes to alleged meetings it's not all about "they're telling the truth or not". As I said, there are many variables. Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met this or that celebrity in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Most of the time, you can't answer to all these questions, which is the reason why they are not evidence to me. Speaking of Jared, I completely rule out 6'3 for him. And unlike you, I treat Jared being 6'3 the same way I treat Boris being 6'3. It's not a surprise that they look very similar next to this presenter, in fact: Click Here And what I said is not an excuse, but I'm certainly not surprised that you call it that way, just like I said. I'm certainly not trying to say that the only reason why Shawne can look as low as 6'2-6'3 is because of that. All I said is that there are some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys. That picture with Shilique Calhoun actually proves my point, considering that Shawne looks maybe around an inch shorter than him there. So, if anything, you are a walking contradiction, LOL.As for Boris, I can say whatever I want. If I want to say that I would bet all of my money that he would be comfortably taller than 6'3, I say it. And I already explained why. I have certainly seen enough to completely rule it out and nothing that suggests that 6'3 is even remotely possible (not even by 1%). The same goes for me saying that if he ever turned out to be as low as 6'3 flat (let alone under), I would be so shocked that I probably would never come back on here for the embarrassment. The reason why I say that I would never come back on here for the embarrassment is because it never happened so far that I overestimated (or underestimated) a celebrity by an inch (let alone over), but, as I said, basically all celebrities that I have "challenged" in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. I guess I've been just "lucky"... And for the record, I have seen a lot less stuff of those celebrities than what I have seen of Boris. So, if anything, I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities. And for the last time, my 6'5 mention for Boris was closely related to those guys' listings (Kevin Durand, Kim Coates and Dennis Haysbert). It is certainly hard to believe that Boris is as low as 6'4 if those guys are as tall as their listings (and I'm sure that in the past all three were listed even higher than they are now).And yeah, I did say that you have no clue about height differences there because not only you insisted that there is a clear 2 inches differences when there's really not, but you also insisted that that picture with Kobe was the definite proof that Boris can't be any taller than 6'2.75. Funny how even in that picture you have posted (in comments like the ones you submitted on 26/Aug/17 and on 28/Aug/17), you can see what I was talking about when I said that you're the one who started it by saying that I just want Boris to be 6'4 and and by calling my estimate "BS" (or joke in that case), even though I was referring to some older comments, still on Idris Elba's page, which is where all this discussion started. So again, don't even try to pin it on me.

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 23/Jan/18

@Andrea



You don't pay attention to things at all. I didn't lie about that. You brought up the prostitute thing quite while after Canson called you one on on RAY FISHER'S page. And that was right before I brought up the boyfriend thing on Boris Kodjoe's page. I already admitted that I brought up the boyfriend thing, but that was AFTER you brought up the fact that Canson called you a prostitute, so I didn't lie. Sure, you mentioned it on 29/Oct/17, but you also mentioned it once before on Ray's page, even before 6/Oct/17.

And while a post from one guy saying Jared's 6'3" in person isn't enough, you should't completely rule out 6'3" for Jared either. I treat Jared being 6'3" the same way I treat Boris being 6'4". Both are highly unlikely, but not impossible. And I'm not saying you should believe every person who claimed to met a celeb, because I don't know if that guy was telling the truth or not, but in Boris's and Shawne's case, I doubt that the people who claimed to met them were lying because they look the height they were guessed at in some pics, and in Shawne's case, he was measured a height (6'2 3/8") that's similar to how he was guessed at. (6'2")

And what's you said is definitely an excuse because you try to use that "There are definitely some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys" thing to say that Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" or 6'2" in some pics because of that. So if what you said is true, explain why the 6'4 3/8" measured football player Shilique Calhoun's around 1.75" taller than Shawne

I can respect your confidence that you completely rule out 6'3" for Boris, but don't say stupid stuff like you'll bet all of your money, or you'll never come back to this site out of embarassment if Boris turns out to be 6'3" if Rob meets him. And I'm not being contradictory if I strongly believe he's 6'3", but there's a small posibility he might be 6'4". Think of it this way, I'm 99% sure he's 6'3", but 1% of me believes he's 6'4". And I didn't take it out of context. I know you mentioned that Haysbert, Durand etc. could be shorter than listed, but you also clearly said that 6'5" was a possibility.

And you're a total liar. This debate got heated as soon as you said that I had no clue about height differences said on 23/Jan/18@AndreaYou don't pay attention to things at all. I didn't lie about that. You brought up the prostitute thing quite while after Canson called you one on on RAY FISHER'S page. And that was right before I brought up the boyfriend thing on Boris Kodjoe's page. I already admitted that I brought up the boyfriend thing, but that was AFTER you brought up the fact that Canson called you a prostitute, so I didn't lie. Sure, you mentioned it on 29/Oct/17, but you also mentioned it once before on Ray's page, even before 6/Oct/17.And while a post from one guy saying Jared's 6'3" in person isn't enough, you should't completely rule out 6'3" for Jared either. I treat Jared being 6'3" the same way I treat Boris being 6'4". Both are highly unlikely, but not impossible. And I'm not saying you should believe every person who claimed to met a celeb, because I don't know if that guy was telling the truth or not, but in Boris's and Shawne's case, I doubt that the people who claimed to met them were lying because they look the height they were guessed at in some pics, and in Shawne's case, he was measured a height (6'2 3/8") that's similar to how he was guessed at. (6'2")And what's you said is definitely an excuse because you try to use that "There are definitely some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys" thing to say that Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" or 6'2" in some pics because of that. So if what you said is true, explain why the 6'4 3/8" measured football player Shilique Calhoun's around 1.75" taller than Shawne Click Here Click Here so I guess Shawne was standing bad in that pic, right? (even though it goes against what you said because according to you, Shawne stands bad only when he's with someone that's shorter than him, but you can clearly see in the pic that Shawne's not standing badly, in fact, he has slightly better posture than Shilique) This is why I call you a walking contradiction.I can respect your confidence that you completely rule out 6'3" for Boris, but don't say stupid stuff like you'll bet all of your money, or you'll never come back to this site out of embarassment if Boris turns out to be 6'3" if Rob meets him. And I'm not being contradictory if I strongly believe he's 6'3", but there's a small posibility he might be 6'4". Think of it this way, I'm 99% sure he's 6'3", but 1% of me believes he's 6'4". And I didn't take it out of context. I know you mentioned that Haysbert, Durand etc. could be shorter than listed, but you also clearly said that 6'5" was a possibility. Click Here And you're a total liar. This debate got heated as soon as you said that I had no clue about height differences Click Here and it wasn't directed towards Canson, you clearly directed it towards me because you were replying to me. And even after that, my response wasn't directed towards you as you can see. It was about how much Boris was looking shorter than Kobe and Jordan, but you kept on using ad hominem fallacies. That's why this discussion got so heated and prolonged. And you love to accuse me of using the "I'm good and you're bad" card, but it's the truth. You're the one who started all of this.

Canson said on 22/Jan/18

@Christian: not to mention Dirk is leaning. I can’t see him over a flat 6’3 in that pic perhaps a touch less but you said it well “about 6’3”

Canson said on 22/Jan/18

@Rob: looking at the article it could be because of his position that he played or could’ve been a legitimate error. He would be on the small side for a defensive lineman at 6’2 but would be good for a LB which he ultimately played. Maybe the uncertainty was why that happened. Or it could’ve been data set issue where maybe he was 6’2 3/8 and they said 6’4 3/8. That happens a lot In the NBA where shoe heights go into barefoot column. I’m willing to bet money Dwayne Wade is not “almost 6’4” and also am willing to bet that those were not Morning measurements. I’ve played ball with some of the guys that were drafted and their heights are closely mirrored in person such as Keith Bogans and have met Kirk Hinrich and Carmelo Anthony. Both looked close to their draft heights. Hinrich could be 6’2.5 but close enough whereas Melo looked about right. Another one was TJ ford who looked shorter. He looked more 5’10 than 5’11 but I didn’t pay attention to footwear possibly.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 21/Jan/18

Boris looks about 6'3" next to 6'11" Dirk Nowitzki said on 21/Jan/18Boris looks about 6'3" next to 6'11" Dirk Nowitzki Click Here and 6'9.75" listed John Isner with visible footwear Click Here

Canson said on 20/Jan/18

@Checker: that’s likely a morning height for Calhoun as well. That’s his combine measurement meaning probably a flat 6’4”

Canson said on 20/Jan/18

@Checker: the worst case scenario for Vernon and Shawne is that Vernon is half inch taller. Best case is an inch. I only say that because of where both measured. If Shawne is somehow 6’2.5 or 6’2 3/8 at a low and Vernon is about 6’3. When I met Vernon it looked about 3cm (1-1.5”). I would say he looked solid 6’3 but seeing as how he measured 6’3.25 in the AM maybe 6’2 7/8 as a worst case as that won’t look any different really. But I would say Vernon is 6’3 since it’s close enough like my friend who looked the same standing next to me and dips to 190.3-.4. Shawne according to a friend who met him said 6’2ish. Not as tall as the 6’3 friend

checker said on 19/Jan/18

6'2 Merriman next to 6'4.3 Shilique Calhoun. said on 19/Jan/186'2 Merriman next to 6'4.3 Shilique Calhoun. Click Here

Canson said on 19/Jan/18

there’s no way that Merriman is 3” taller than Ray Lewis. That’s hardly 2” between them. Ray measured 6’0.6 at his draft 6’ 5/8 or 6’ 3/4



Click Here said on 19/Jan/18there’s no way that Merriman is 3” taller than Ray Lewis. That’s hardly 2” between them. Ray measured 6’0.6 at his draft 6’ 5/8 or 6’ 3/4

checker said on 19/Jan/18

6'3 Vernon is simply taller than 6'2 Merriman because of a bigger forehead. said on 19/Jan/186'3 Vernon is simply taller than 6'2 Merriman because of a bigger forehead. Click Here

Canson said on 19/Jan/18

@Andrea: that comment about being called a troll that you made being a compliment makes no sense at all. Sounds like you are putting up a front now like you have all of this time. And no I don’t believe you are a troll. You’re just very stubborn and arrogant like Christian said and that comment along with others only validates it. I can respect that you’d put money down as that at least shows you’re confident but when you said you would never return to this site out of embarrassment shows that it’s all a front. And you want to bring up age you’re very childish the way you run to Rob for everything and accuse others of lying when they don’t agree with you so you just proved every point Christian and I have said. You run to Rob the same way a child would when he feels he is being bullied or worse if he is spoiled and feels he isn’t getting his way. 😂 You have to prove “Christian’s hypocrisy and untruthfulness”? Sorry but you didn’t prove a thing. And what does attempting to do that have to do with Boris being 6’4 or not? Sorry but that doesn’t change his height. Absolutely nothing. And He wasn’t untruthful and he surely isn’t a hypocrite like you are accusing both of us of the things you do such as trusting someone else’s estimates only when they are convenient enough to fit your narrative of course or not trusting them when you don’t think they fit it. and having to run to others for reassurance solely because you lack confidence. Or calling someone a liar because their estimates don’t coincide with yours or making your opinions or estimates a fact when they’re just an opinion. People see things differently. Just as you accused me of lying about Brady being 4 or so inches shorter (which to me he looked at times). You did the same saying Merriman is only one inch shorter than Barkley. But of course no one else agrees with you or sees it that way. And truthfully the way people comment on Barkley they won’t do that. They would easily make Barkley 6’5.5 or 6’6” and just call it a 2” difference here since that’s the minimum that it looks. It’s funny you didn’t include your height lines there but you do it on other pics and it’s because you know it’s more than an inch. Go right ahead and try to compare that height difference to the one with Boris and Haysbert that you swear is 2cm 😂. How do you see a 1” difference there but only a 2cm difference between Boris and Haysbert? I can compare the two and tell it’s a noticeable difference not just 1 cm between the kids. And You also claim to be clueless on shoes and how much they add yet when it’s convenient for you you comment on and make an excuse about Barkley’s to again diminish the difference between he and Boris yet with Kobe there is an obvious difference and you say it doesn’t exist yet others here see it.



Ok so if you want to use your logic about someone lying because “height differences are a fact”, then you are lying about the height difference with Boris and Kobe and also with Barkley and Merriman and with Boris and Barkley as you are the only person here saying the differences are what you call them while others here are saying that they are exactly what Christian and I said which look more factual. But no it doesn’t work that way with you. The only things that are fact are the ones that you believe are. Everything else that you don’t believe or that doesn’t support your narrative is either a lie, stupid, or an opinion.

Andrea said on 18/Jan/18

And you still lie, Christian, even though the messages are there now, LOL. You did bring up the boyfriend thing on 6/Oct/2017, after over one month I came out with that, just like I said. Me, on the other hand, I never mentioned the prostitute thing because I never cared about it. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you started to play the victim. That's all!

And you said it right. You have no proof that Viper or Canson's friends really met Shawne, so we're talking about nothing. That's not evidence, hence why it makes no sense to bring them up as proof that Shawne is as tall as 6'2. And although it might be true that "just because your estimates for celebs supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them, doesn't mean that it's going to be the case for Boris", that should still suggest that you can get a very good idea of how tall celebrities are if you see enough stuff of them. And for the record, I've seen a lot of Boris (probably more than any other celebrity at this point), so I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities. And I never said that the "fan site" measurements were made up, but being it a "fan site" increases the possibility of errors, in a sense.

Speaking of Shawne, as I said, I can appreciate how he can look as low as that at times (like he does with Ray Lewis, for example), but there are many other pictures with MEASURED athletes where he looks easily taller than that. One thing I've noticed is that he can look shorter next to shorter guys and taller next to taller guys (and by shorter and taller I don't necessarily mean shorter and taller than him). Maybe he's a guy who slouches around shorter guys and when he's around taller guys he stands taller...

And I know that you can be aware of camera angles and positions because I've seen you making some very good points on other pages (even though you calling camera angles "excuses" certainly doesn't work in your favour), but sometimes it doesn't seem like that on here. As I said, I would have never posted those pictures with Michael Jordan, Michael Jai White, The Game etc. or even those ones with Ray Lewis where, in your opinion, Boris could look as tall as 6'7 because they simply prove nothing, even if they are the only pictures with those people. And which are those good camera quality pictures where Boris looks as low as 6'2 or as high as 6'5+? As I said, I can see how he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 next to Akon and Jamie Foxx, but they're actually the only two pictures where he can look as low as that and in every other picture he looks comfortably over 6'3. 6'5+? I don't think he's ever looked as big as that with anyone, apart from, maybe, those celebrities who are probably a bit overlisted on here.

And it's not about being arrogant, but about being confident. As I said, I've seen enough to completely rule out 6'3. Just like I'd do with a guy like Jared Padalecki. That being said, I'll be honest and say that I wouldn't bet my money on him not being under 6'4 because there's always a possibility he dips a bit under, just like I wouldn't with the same Jared, although I personally wouldn't put any of them at anything under 6'4. And none of those two people you have mentioned are actually "confirmed and measured". Barkley's 6'4 5/8 "measurement" is just a mention in one article and Shawne's 6-2.4 measurement isn't less reliable than the other 6'4 3/8 measurement, apart from the former appearing only on a "fan site", like Couchscout seems to be. And I don't see how saying something like "I completely rule out 6'3 for Boris" is crazy. You yourself called my 6'4 estimate for Boris "BS" in the past, which is even crazier, and it goes to show that 1) you speak as if your estimates are the only good ones and 2) you're an hypocrite because you accuse me of the same thing (but we already knew that). And yeah, I wondered if 6'5 was possible in the past because he could look nearer that mark with those guys I mentioned in that old message (that you have posted and probably even haven't read, apart from the first part), but, based on what I've seen now, I would safely rule it out and I think it's more the case of those other people being shorter than their listings, which is exactly what I said there, btw. Although I can see something like 192 as not being impossible next to Kobe and Barkley, I have to go with what he generally looks next to everybody else: a decent 6'4.

And who are these many posters I have discussions with that, according to you, dislike me? Rampage? Bennett or whatever his name was/is? Viper? LOL I swear it's hard, but I'll try to live with it. Speaking of that, do you really think that you are so liked on here? Last time I checked, more than one poster thought otherwise and a few of them specifically said that you are very disliked on here... And I'm glad that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, hypocrite on the site calls me the biggest walking contradiction in Celebheights history. I'd say it easily fits with his character. ;)

Canson said on 18/Jan/18

@Christian: you meant Senior Bowl where he measured that but you’re absolutely right. And I don’t get why Andrea can call me a liar or you or accuse us of not being able to differentiate height differences when he can say that there’s a 1” diff with Merriman and Barkley or that Barkley has a footwear advantage (after he claimed he knew nothing about shoes in previous posts) or that Kobe has 3cm on Boris but Boris has “2cm on Haysbert” when there is a noticeable difference between the two pics. Then use all of that as a fact when it is clearly an opinion. I mean key point here is (which actually is a fact). You have a few people who have jumped in and disagreed with him so obviously it had the possibility of not being true or else everyone would be agreeing with him. Not saying it is or isn’t because we don’t know but I would be my own money that Barkley and Merriman at least are accurate enough (within realm)

Andrea said on 18/Jan/18

And this guy is supposed to be 36??? 😂😂😂

Funny how he keeps proving everything I've already said about him...

And now tell me, Canson, where did I run to Rob now? You know, I'm trying to improve my hacking skills, but I still can't access celebheights database for some reason... 😢 That's why I had to ask Rob to retrieve the old comments to finally expose Christian's untruthfulness and hypocrisy. 👍 I swear I'm studying though, so, Rob, pay some serious attention to your site's security because next time I might do it by myself! 😎

P.S. Getting called troll by Viper is kinda an achievement! 😀

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 18/Jan/18

@Andrea



I didn't lie. I actually did bring up the boyfriend thing after you whined about Canson calling you a prostitute, but the comment was on Ray Fisher's page, which got pushed down.

And just because I don't have actual proof that Viper and an associate of Canson's met Shawne, doesn't automatically negate them. The only proof I have is to take their words for it. And just because your estimates for celebs supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them, doesn't mean that it's going to be the case for Boris.

And if you think that the "fan site" measurements were made up, they're actual sources that come from NFL's database. For example, Shawne's 6'2.4" measurement came from the 2006 Pro Bowl. So it's legit as far as I'm concerned.

And if you wanna believe that Shawne's only an inch shorter than Barkley despite the pic showing otherwise, then go right ahead. I believe that Vernon's taller than Shawne despite the two pics you provided showing otherwise, but I have a good reason for it. Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" range with other people, not only with Barkley. But Vernon on the other hand, looks legit 6'3" in many of the pics, although there are a few times where he can look taller or shorter than that.

And I'm pretty aware of camera angles and positions contrary to what you think. Whenever I post pics with rather poor camera positioning, it's only because I wasn't able to find any other pics of Boris with the same person. For example, the pics with Michael Jordan, Michael Jai White, The Game etc. If I was able to find other pics with the same people involved with better camera positioning, I would've posted those instead. And unlike you, I don't make excuses and blame it on camera angles or lifts or even worse tiptoes whenever Boris looks 6'4". But you often make those same excuses whenever he looks below it. I know there are good camera quality pics where Boris looks 6'4", but there are others with just as good camera quality where he looks 6'2" or 6'3" or 6'5"+.

And are you that arrogant as to where you'll completely rule out 6'3" for Boris and even bet all of your money? As much as I doubt he's legit 6'4", there's always still a very slim chance IMO that he actually may be that tall. I'm not gonna completely rule it out. Just like I'll never completely rule out heights for other celebs, that's if unless that person was measured, as in the case with 6'4 5/8" Barkley and 6'2.4" Merriman. They were measured at those respective heights so they can't be higher than that. You just exactly proved my point when I say that you present your opinions as if they were facts. Otherwise you would've never said anything crazy like you're completely ruling out 6'3" for Boris. And another crazy thing is that 6'3" is impossible according to you, yet somehow 6'5" is a possibility? said on 18/Jan/18@AndreaI didn't lie. I actually did bring up the boyfriend thing after you whined about Canson calling you a prostitute, but the comment was on Ray Fisher's page, which got pushed down.And just because I don't have actual proof that Viper and an associate of Canson's met Shawne, doesn't automatically negate them. The only proof I have is to take their words for it. And just because your estimates for celebs supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them, doesn't mean that it's going to be the case for Boris.And if you think that the "fan site" measurements were made up, they're actual sources that come from NFL's database. For example, Shawne's 6'2.4" measurement came from the 2006 Pro Bowl. So it's legit as far as I'm concerned.And if you wanna believe that Shawne's only an inch shorter than Barkley despite the pic showing otherwise, then go right ahead. I believe that Vernon's taller than Shawne despite the two pics you provided showing otherwise, but I have a good reason for it. Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" range with other people, not only with Barkley. But Vernon on the other hand, looks legit 6'3" in many of the pics, although there are a few times where he can look taller or shorter than that.And I'm pretty aware of camera angles and positions contrary to what you think. Whenever I post pics with rather poor camera positioning, it's only because I wasn't able to find any other pics of Boris with the same person. For example, the pics with Michael Jordan, Michael Jai White, The Game etc. If I was able to find other pics with the same people involved with better camera positioning, I would've posted those instead. And unlike you, I don't make excuses and blame it on camera angles or lifts or even worse tiptoes whenever Boris looks 6'4". But you often make those same excuses whenever he looks below it. I know there are good camera quality pics where Boris looks 6'4", but there are others with just as good camera quality where he looks 6'2" or 6'3" or 6'5"+.And are you that arrogant as to where you'll completely rule out 6'3" for Boris and even bet all of your money? As much as I doubt he's legit 6'4", there's always still a very slim chance IMO that he actually may be that tall. I'm not gonna completely rule it out. Just like I'll never completely rule out heights for other celebs, that's if unless that person was measured, as in the case with 6'4 5/8" Barkley and 6'2.4" Merriman. They were measured at those respective heights so they can't be higher than that. You just exactly proved my point when I say that you present your opinions as if they were facts. Otherwise you would've never said anything crazy like you're completely ruling out 6'3" for Boris. And another crazy thing is that 6'3" is impossible according to you, yet somehow 6'5" is a possibility? Click Here Mind you that 6'5" is just as far from 6'4" as 6'3" is. And you wonder why a lot of posters whom you have discussions with dislike you. You're the biggest walking contradiction in Celebheights history.

Canson said on 17/Jan/18

@Checker: as much as I disagree and dislike Andrea I don’t think he is a troll. I’ll be fair and give credit where it is due. But as I’ve maintained all along I think just incredibly stubborn as you said and I don’t think he’ll admit if he’s wrong. He also mentioned once that if Boris turned out to be “6’3 or under” that he would never return to this site out of pure embarrassment. Anyone here who has either provided an estimate below his satisfaction or even met the guy in person Andrea has either criticized the estimate or told them no disrespect but I don’t agree. The latter is perfectly fine and diplomatic and the way that it should be done honestly but then there is the situation with you Me Christian Mr R Bennett 6’3” and Bobby why our estimates “lack credibility” for one reason or another. Not to mention he told me and Christian as well that he “thought we were reasonable but I guess not”. Meaning because we didn’t agree with him was how I perceived it and that’s how it looks to anyone else. I’ll give him his credit he found pics where he looks 6’4” but when Christian or I post a pic it is no good when more than half of his aren’t. It’s the ultra lame childish and sorry excuses he makes for everything and the hypocrite sh*t that he pulls if you see the older comments especially that Rob posted. Christian dared him and Andrea didn’t let us down running to Rob once again as a little child in the last post, Not to mention he has run to Rob close to a dozen other (at least) times now and had to run to posters on other pages such as Chi McBride Tyler Perry and John Cena (to name a few) to get reassurance. You can see his comments on those pages where he is “subtly” fishing for someone to “assure him” that Boris is 6’4 or looks it with those guys. I mean there really isn’t much more to say at this stage.

Canson said on 17/Jan/18

@Checker: as much as I disagree and dislike Andrea I don’t think he is a troll. I’ll be fair and give credit where it is due. But as I’ve maintained all along I think just incredibly stubborn as you said and I don’t think he’ll admit if he’s wrong. He also mentioned once that if Boris turned out to be “6’3 or under” that he would never return to this site out of pure embarrassment. Anyone here who has either provided an estimate below his satisfaction or even met the guy in person Andrea has either criticized the estimate or told them no disrespect but I don’t agree. The latter is perfectly fine and diplomatic and the way that it should be done honestly but then there is the situation with you Me Christian Mr R Bennett 6’3” and Bobby why our estimates “lack credibility” for one reason or another. Not to mention he told me and Christian as well that he “thought we were reasonable but I guess not”. Meaning because we didn’t agree with him was how I perceived it and that’s how it looks to anyone else. I’ll give him his credit he found pics where he looks 6’4” but when Christian or I post a pic it is no good when more than half of his aren’t. It’s the hypocrite sh*t that he pulls if you see the older comments especially that Rob posted. Christian dared him and Andrea didn’t let us down running to Rob once again as a little child in the last llatZ Not to mention he has run to Rob close to a dozen other (at least) times now and had to run to posters on other pages such as Chi McBride Tyler Perry and John Cena (to name a few) to get reassurance. You can see his comments on those pages where he is “subtly” fishing for someone to “assure him” that Boris is 6’4 or looks it with those guys. I mean there really isn’t much more to say at this stage.

Canson said on 17/Jan/18

@Andrea: in my f*cked up mind Andrea? And Oh Lord end this argument really? The argument that you started and kept because nobody agrees with you lol. And you speak like you have authority here and telling us what we have to believe and post? if you want to really hear about yourself. You say you’re dealing with kids? Who just ran to Rob because he can’t defend himself in an argument he started? You are a very immature poster and are a big immature child. Ill give you credit tho you love running to Rob don’t you? You didn’t see Christian or I do that. And no one here cares who posted what first between you and Christian or me. You brought it up not us. Yet it’s ok for you to tell us “we can’t estimate height or are stupid because we don’t agree with you. The only thing you exposed here is yourself for what Christian and I both said that you are a puppet and have no mind of your own. You just run to Rob all the time for everything. Funny you don’t see either of us doing that but you have to for everything. And the comment calling us boyfriends is end of August that was quite some time ago. The posts following that prove Christians point once again.



What do you mean please don’t say Viper? Well you were the one who used Viper’s 6’4” estimate of Boris with Magic as evidence that he’s 6’4”. Now though because he says he’s shorter and because Merriman is not the height that would make Boris 6’4” we all of a sudden have to “take his estimates with a grain of salt”. So if Rising Force had met Merriman however, then and estimated him 6’4” and could be completely off you would use that as evidence tho of course. We know you well. You use whatever fits your narrative and criticize anyone else’s opinion that doesn’t as we are all aware of. You say that we “can’t estimate height difference all because something doesn’t line up with your estimate”. Not an entire group here just you saying it. So you for some reason carry more weight than others though? You’re a joke

Canson said on 17/Jan/18

@Andrea: Oh Lord end this argument really? The argument that you started and kept because nobody agrees with you lol. The only thing you exposed here is yourself for what Christian and I both said that you are a puppet and have no mind of your own. You just run to Rob all the time for everything. Funny you don’t see either of us doing that but you have to for everything

Editor Rob Editor Rob Guys, someone take the lead...this page has gone around in circles for months.



I can see how one person might think Boris is 6ft 3.25, another 6ft 4...we all have our opinions. Sometimes we have to accept we can never agree.



As for the Merriman, I might give him a page, but even I am not sure on the guy, it's a strange case. said on 17/Jan/18@Andrea: Oh Lord end this argument really? The argument that you started and kept because nobody agrees with you lol. The only thing you exposed here is yourself for what Christian and I both said that you are a puppet and have no mind of your own. You just run to Rob all the time for everything. Funny you don’t see either of us doing that but you have to for everything

Andrea said on 17/Jan/18

Thanks, Rob. For Christian: you can now see that I came out with that boyfriend thing on 31/Aug/2017 and after over one month, precisely on 6/Oct/2017, you brought it up again, just like I said. According to you, that happened only after me bringing the prostitute thing up. I wouldn't say so, considering that there's no mention of it in any part of that old page. As I said, the only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. Before then, I never mentioned it because I couldn't care less, unlike you apparently. That being said, I can't wait for your next excuse because I'm sure you will find one...

P.S. I know that I brought the prostitute thing up on Ray Fisher's page, but it was right after you and Canson started to play the victim (Canson even tried to say my emojis are insulting at some point, LOL) and precisely on 29/Oct/17, so after 6/Oct/2017. Go check it yourself. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if you started to say that it's just my opinion and that 6/Oct/2017 comes after 29/Oct/17 for some reason, LOL.

checker said on 17/Jan/18

Andrea, you calling Rudy Gay a liar for saying Merriman is 6'2, and with Merriman not denying it in his tweet back.



What in the world.

checker said on 17/Jan/18

Andrea, NFL.com had Merriman at a measured 6'2 at his pro day.



And he looks no taller than 6'2 with Barkley. People who meet him say hes 6'2. Hes NOT 6'3. He was listed at 6'3 his first 2 years at Maryland.



Ive posted at least 4 pics of Merriman and Vernon together since 2007 and 6'3 Vernon looked taller in all of them.



Dont know why you are stubborn and trolling now. said on 17/Jan/18Andrea, NFL.com had Merriman at a measured 6'2 at his pro day. Click Here And he looks no taller than 6'2 with Barkley. People who meet him say hes 6'2. Hes NOT 6'3. He was listed at 6'3 his first 2 years at Maryland.Ive posted at least 4 pics of Merriman and Vernon together since 2007 and 6'3 Vernon looked taller in all of them.Dont know why you are stubborn and trolling now.

Andrea said on 17/Jan/18

In your fuc*ed up mind I'm sure it does, Canson. ;)

Andrea said on 17/Jan/18

Rob, I know it's pretty stupid to ask, but since I'm dealing with kids, do you still have the old comments somewhere? So that I can finally end this argument and expose Christian's (already obvious) hypocrisy and untruthfulness... You see, Christian? Another difference between me and you is that if you refer to the old comments of mine (that are no longer here), I don't deny anything. You, on the other hand, take advantage of the fact that they got deleted and you lie, lie and lie.

As for people "meeting" celebrities, you haven't answered my questions. Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? And please, don't say Viper. And saying that "you can't actually prove that Shawne and Boris are around 6'2" and 6'3" unless you meet them in person yourself" isn't really true. As I said, I've always gauged celebrities' heights from pictures and clips and basically all of those celebrities turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. Why do you think is that? Luck? Or maybe that "method" really works, if you know how to use it of course?

And yeah, Charles claiming a very precise 6'4.75 is quite curious, to say the least, if he really is taller than that, but saying that the chance of Barkley being 6'5.5 is almost zero is entirely your opinion and not completely true, considering that he can often look 6'5+. And Barkley at 6'4.75 wouldn't put Shawne under 6'2.75 there, so still taller than his 6-2.4 "measurement". The same 6-2.4 "measurement" which, as I said, comes from a "fan site", whether you like it or not. I tried to contact the owner of the site to have more info about it, but he still hasn't answered me. Anyway, this is how the owner himself described his site on FB, so I don't see how you can still say that it's not a "fan site":

And although it might be true that only two pictures of Shawne and Vernon isn't enough to conclude that Shawne is a weak 6'4, they seem enough to me to conclude that Shawne is taller than him (and certainly not shorter). And if you still say that Vernon is taller, despite those two pictures, I could easily say that in my opinion 