@k8sMum "So many of them have equated being equal with mirroring the same behaviour."

I kind of feel the opposite - the reason those in power, ie old white rich men in power - stay in power is b/c the rest of us are too cordial and polite to do what needs to be done. Or too easily appeased by bread & circuses. (I dont' think it's a coincidence so many states are legalizing marijuana, stoned people dont' protest.) While the rich take pleasure in trampling everything under their feet, the more civilized among us try to take the high road. When's the last time one of those old men took the high road? Al Franken quit when his abhorrent behavior was pointed out to him, Kavannaugh became a US Supreme Court Justice. Epstein, More, Ailes, they're all horrible people who will never apologize or admit guilt. And the GOP politicians are all horrible horrible hypocrites who had no problem raking Obama over the coals for the same stuff they praise the resident golf course owner over. Bush JR was an idiot, but at least he sold his stake in a baseball team to try and keep up appearances. There are no appearances anymore, only white power hand salutes.

So I'm fine with the democrats finally getting up and fighting fire with fire. I'm not advocating violence like so many on the far right are, but at least stand up and speak up. I'm fine w/ getting rid of all civility now if it means a fairer future.

I mean, I really feel like the class war is lost, and that's the real war, not sex/gender, not race, not religion, those are all just cover for the old rich white men to get more cannon fodder and human shields on their side. When push comes to shove old rich white Catholic men aren't coming to the defense of other men, or whites, or women, or Christians, they are only coming to the defense of their tight little rich boys club. The other wars are all just a distraction form the class war. Which is pretty much over, we're pretty close to the rich being to rich to rich and the middle class sinking too low to do anything about it. But maybe while we're all living in poverty in the future we can all do so w/ a little respect. And the only way to get respect is to earn it. And the only way to get respect from a bully is to be a bully. So I'm ok w/ the push back. And I hope that the natural inclination of nice people returning to from occurs after the fight.

And if not, we'll at least women tend to be child molesters and rapists less often than men. I can't imagine a woman judge letting off a male rapist b/c he's from a good white family. Well at least not as many female as male judges. I'm ready for new overloads.