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"VIDEO: It's All So Confusing for the Wingnutted Tea Baggers Sore-Losers, eh?..."

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/18/2009 @ 8:37 pm PT...





"Dwarfed in Size" . . . . . The Famous Beetlejuice demonstrates his version of tea bagging on a willing Jodie. Sorry no intimate graphic content here . . .

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/18/2009 @ 10:09 pm PT...





The sign down the page here was pretty funny too.

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/18/2009 @ 10:10 pm PT...





Why dont you report on the true nature and spirit of these rallies? For me, and hundreds of others in Santa Rosa, Ca, this event was non-partisan. This evet saw a majority of End, or Audit the (un)Federal Reserve signs. It was about No Taxation without Representation. Or maybe you like the War of Terror, Bank Bailouts, and warantless wiretapping? While major attrocities are happening, you are "reporting" on tea-baggers, a lame attempt at sexual humor...FOX, and MSNBC set the bait, and you bit.

Instead of dividing us, why not try to unite us with the origin of these events? 1773, Boston.

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/18/2009 @ 10:45 pm PT...





Flo ~ Not shaving for a tea Bagging is so uncouth . . .

~

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]

... FreedomOfInformationAct said on 4/18/2009 @ 11:04 pm PT...





because there are pockets of delusional riecht-wingers even in Santa Rosa.

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]

... LordLeckie said on 4/18/2009 @ 11:39 pm PT...





The reason Brian is that there is no spirit in these rallies, there is a hollow clank of a worn out machine trying desperately to lash out in any way at what it percieves to be democrat so as to further the other side.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/18/2009 @ 11:48 pm PT...





Or because most of us are not willing to just let the country shut down over some strange ideology?. Lets see, three months for O vs thirty years of ruin? Fuckin Reagan. My knees are jerking agin. Back on topic: The Billionaires were out also.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/18/2009 @ 11:54 pm PT...





I dont know folks, a Reserve Chairman is appointed for 14 years, a President for 4. And you think I will buy that this is partisan? NOPE

I cant speak for the folks who follow Fox as god. But the same goes for you folks who think MSNBC, and AP are legitimate. Break your own walls down, unite, get this $%&# done.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:08 am PT...





I don't think you'll see anything like this on Fox tho.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:17 am PT...





And you wont see anything anywhere if you keep watching TV reports online.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:24 am PT...





or I'll just keep holding my ears and saying la la la, they hurt so bad from watching TeeVee. Another bad one

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]

... Lisa said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:33 am PT...





Thanks for the link to the inauguration post from 2005. Eye opening. I've been politically asleep for years so when Bush's term was about to end, I decided to find out what's up. (And being unemployed gave me plenty of time to do research). I read most of those comments too. Wow. Amazing what has transpired since then.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 4/19/2009 @ 4:08 am PT...





Are we winning, or what! They got the guns, but we got the numbers! Say it again!

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]

... Larry Bergan said on 4/19/2009 @ 4:12 am PT...





To paraphrase Jim Morrison, (which I hate to do); we got the REAL numbers.

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]

... FreedomOfInformationAct said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:07 am PT...





Brian, the GOP snake-oil salesman Karl Rove was quoted as having said he 'has his math', and the American voter has their math. Guess which 'math' was correct three months ago? Enough said, get over it, mclame and painlin lost, the gop lost, limpaw and insannity and oreally lost, faux spews lost, and COLEMAN LOST. Time for you to get over it and 'move on' already!

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:12 am PT...





Anyone look at that link on #10 yet? I'm not sure, but I think old Keefe nailed it pretty much.

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]

... FreedomOfInformationAct said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:22 am PT...





In October 2006, Karl Rove told NPR that "the math" which he was "entitled to" showed Republican majorities in both the House and the Senate in the upcoming congressional elections.

How was this math so wrong?

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:50 am PT...





You lame attempt to group me with any of your "parties" is a joke. You have no idea of who I voted for, your brainwashed head thinks Im angry about Obama winning, not McCain. Did you forget there was 6 Presidential Contestants?

Did you forget some of them actually wanted to end the war! You have no idea how Pyscology works, and how Fox and MSNBC are playing you all like a rope in the middle of tug-o-war! Its time YOU get over the fact that arent represented, and start doing something other than supporting Presidents that wiretap without warrants, torture, rendition programs, Bank bailouts, etc...

But keep hailing your screen and Keith as God, in four years, or 8, your tug of war will simply continue.... AND NOTHING CHANGES

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:51 am PT...





I don't know FOIA but if he told you...see Mike Connell

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:56 am PT...





hmm...Why wasn't "Brain" around when Bush was shitting all over the Constitution I wonder but now shows up?

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 10:02 am PT...





"Brain" was and stil is here. So is Brian. You dont get how similar you all sound to the whakkos that believed BUSH was elected! Do you believe he was elected? I sure as hell know he was not! Two major elections were stolen from us, and you think Barack is legitamate, you think this is real? You think your vote counts? See how dividing all of you have become?

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 10:04 am PT...





Brian is disappointed in Brad's "news" story here. It is not relevant, nor a true reflection. It is simply perpetuating the left/right tug of war, while Bankers are (have) taking over.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]

... the zapkitty said on 4/19/2009 @ 10:15 am PT...





Simple, our beloved corporate oligarchy, the ones behind the tea parties, is calling everyone who protested on April 15th one of 'their" teabaggers... regardless. As has been pointed out elsewhere it will happen again on July 4th. What Brian and similar disaffecteds don't understand is that they're not being given a choice in this "alliance"... if they protest on any issue that could possibly be called conservative then their numbers will be used to pad the rolls of the wingnuts. The oligarchs will see to that.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 10:18 am PT...





Where have you been Bri? they took over during the period from 1776-1783.

Jackson got em by the balls for a while (30 years, arguably), but they just came back stronger after that.

It's all a joke, you see...don't you?

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 10:26 am PT...





So now this administrations intelligence agengies have you all afraid of July 4th too? Too much T.V. in your lives folks!!!

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]

... Jon in Iowa (Currently in Minnesota) said on 4/19/2009 @ 10:35 am PT...





I love the irony of the tea-bagging parties. It's essentially a self-imposed tax that doesn't benefit the tax-payer in any way. Some folks sure know how to protest.

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 10:39 am PT...





How about the Federal income tax being Direct and unaportioned?

How about a Private Central Bank called the Federal Reserve taxing us with inflation?

Go beyond Left and Right..

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 4/19/2009 @ 11:20 am PT...





Brian - If you believe these protests were about the largely legitimate conservative concerns of the Ron Paul Libertarians, I got news for you, you allowed yourselves to be co-opted by wingnutted GOP partisans, clueless self-destructive Fox "News" stooges, and cynical manipulative corporatists. ...maybe you like the War of Terror, Bank Bailouts, and warantless wiretapping? Feel free to show us the photos and media coverage of all of those signs and protests against the "War of Terror" and warrantless wiretapping, Brian. I watched quite a bit of coverage on Fox, CNN, MSNBC and didn't happen to see any such signs of protest. As I said, even if you think that's what you were protesting, the bulk of your comrades were not, have, in fact, shown themselves to be in favor of those things over the past eight years, with no sign of changing. Otherwise, we'd have seen all sorts of signs for arresting George W. Bush for War Crimes, rather than signs claiming Obama is a "fascist". Instead of dividing us, why not try to unite us with the origin of these events? 1773, Boston. The 1773 protest was against multi-national corporatism in collusion with the British government at the time. I'd suspect that 99% of the folks at this week's protest haven't a clue about that, otherwise, they'd be yelling and screaming to end our Corporatocracy, which they were not. Though I very much appreciate your thoughts here --- and hope you'll continue to share them --- your gross generalizations against "you all" here would be far better (and more accurately) spent on the wingnut tea bagger sore loser sites, educating them on the real problems we face, because the Ron Paul ReLOVEutionaries have been overshadowed again by the sore loser opportunists who don't give a damn about the legitimate interests that you and the other Paul folks have been trying to yell and scream about for years.

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 11:39 am PT...





My comment #24 says awaiting murderation or something like that [ed note: I guess the spam-eating monster got a little crazy there. I don't know why it dumped you into the murderation queue, but I have fetched you back out in any case. --99]

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:09 pm PT...





I could send you some of my photos. You're right, "you all" is not true, nor constuctve.

I do feel that FOX purposefully co-opted this just to keep a majority of people's divided.

Thats my idea of physcological warfare. Anything on Fox will automatically be dismissed as ridiculous, so all they need to do is mention a populace gathering on air, and poof, its nuts!

But Brad, sexual humor instead of your regular hard hitting news is just perpetuating it in my opinion.

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:18 pm PT...





I don't know, guys. Seems to me Brian's biggest gripe is that anyone's bothering to perpetuate the right/left/left/right antagonism that has proven such a powerful tool for the politicians felons who are ruining our country. That is a really good question, Brian. I think the reason it won't go away is because sheeple are unerringly roused by such prurient stuff, and that gets ratings on tv and radio and blogs. So. The media, MSM and independent, just don't seem to be able to resist it and get on real subjects. It drives me crazy, too. The left, "liberals" and "progressives"... whatever they call themselves... finger-pointing dirty-name-calling holier-than-thou politically-correct rubes are very plainly every bit as guilty of this crap as the un-American greed-head social Darwinist rubes on the right! And, you are so right, they don't see it. They get off on dissing the snot out of the other side just as much as the other side gets off on the same kind of action. People just can't seem to drag their brains up a level to look at it objectively --- they think their own positions are objective, don't grok that just because it seems to make sense to them doesn't mean it's objectively so. This so seriously sucks because we have to be raising our brains up at least a notch, maybe many of them, in order to solve the heinous problems facing us. Thanks for trying.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]

... blubonnet said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:23 pm PT...





The irony of calling Obama a "fascist" when the last 8 years, the fusion of the defense industry with government (the main definition of fascism), with Carlyle Group (Bush family and friends) and Halliburton (Cheney family and friends) IN the White house, shows the absurdity of the Right-wing's "perspective". Actually, they, standard Roboticans, don't have any, because the GOP billionaire class keeps exploiting their ignorance, getting these "tea party" games rolling. The brilliant Jim Hightower said during the Bush years, "The corporations don't have to lobby the government, anymore, they ARE the government." THAT is the definition of fascism, that collusion. And what do ya know, along came torture, elimination of habeous corpus, illegal spying, every imaginable war crime, invasion of an innocent country, killing over a million human beings, and so much more, and they dare call Obama, a fascist.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:36 pm PT...





Blubonnet There is basis for calling Obama a fascist... maybe not the basis they are thinking of, but it's getting more apparent by the day.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:40 pm PT...





Well, and the right's ignorance is being exploited and the left's ignore-ance is being exploited. It boils down to the same thing. The People are being exploited, and they're busying themselves yipping about this shit.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]

... Jeannie Dean in LA-13 said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:43 pm PT...





Brian, Former Ron Paul supporter (and regular Bradblog reader) here, who has been up nights worrying about the effect of these so called Tea Bag Protests on the super-saavy, bold, informed RP folks I had the pleasure to work with during the campaign. After contacting many of them, I found that most of them are not drinking the FOX FIX/ Glen Bleck retardation, thankfully, and after attending many of them wrote extensively about their gross disappointment that Fox perpetrated and promoted this National anti-Obama rally under the guise of protesting TAXES. They know that (I couldn't have put it better than Brad): "...the Ron Paul ReLOVEutionaries have been overshadowed again by the sore loser opportunists who don't give a damn about the legitimate interests that you and the other Paul folks have been trying to yell and scream about for years." Righto. As for the "taxation without representation" being their beacon call to re-enact and emulate our famous Boston uprising - Well, now we have an interesting quandry... We DO, in fact, have representation. We may not LIKE who has been chosen to represent us through the democratic process, or approve of the job they're doing. We may feel, and many of us do, that we are being UNDER-represented by these Poops, and have no voice in shaping future policy.

But we are represented, nonetheless. That is, until you factor in how easy it is manipulate election results, and effectively the subsequent media coverage of them. All who follow this blog, Brian, Dem/ Independent and Conservative, are extremely well versed and super informed on this subject matter. They have taken years of their lives to grasp every hard fact, and amass the data. Lots of independent thinkers, here. If we aren't electing our elected officials, then no, we're NOT being represented. So - I suppose we DO INDEED have taxation without representation! Yet I didn't hear ANYTHING about stolen elections at any of these comical-but-creepy protests. Brad nailed it. They're USING us.

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]

... karen from illinois said on 4/19/2009 @ 12:49 pm PT...





brian & brad,

i saw signs that said "show me the law","end the fed" on msnbc,i believe both income tax and the fed r illegal but the last leaders that tried to confront this were lincoln and kennedy(by printing us backed money instead of fed reserve notes) and we know what happened to them fox saw an opportunity to "steal" the libs numbers and present them as neo con numbers,since they cant get 30 peops to a rally not alone a couple hundred velvet revolution has a petition going telling obama to prosecute the illegal deeds of the last admins justice department...i think thats a very important place to start,as it most directly affects citizens day to day lives i like msnbc's coverage better than other msm but they too r owned by corporations and im sure racheal and keith know they can only go so far or they will end up like dan abrams did..off the air abrams asked the question we all wanted answered,why is rove above a congressional subpeona? in the mean time,jim march in pima is doing work that could actually change something as it looks like he will be able to prove they dont have as many ballots as votes reported

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/19/2009 @ 2:10 pm PT...





I think we should all try to become expert at identifying our own cognitive biases. I mean, since they are used against us so successfully, maybe we'd like to try to cut off that mode of access to our helplessness.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]

... blubonnet said on 4/19/2009 @ 2:15 pm PT...





I'm so admiring of the knowledgable Left here on this site. Thank you. Agent 99, I agree, that Obama is not the shining light on the hill, we were expecting to clean up the rot, but instead, seems to be perpetuating it, but, I know, that McCain in office would have been more horrific. I'm still grateful Bush is gone. And now, all I can do is hope and pray that there is some bright plan, unknown yet to us, that justice will happen, though not holding my breath. Obama is brilliant, so, maybe he has a plan that is not immediately apparent now to us. Surely, other countries are getting wind of this, the actual documents, now. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised, if Obama knows, assasination is an actual possibility for him. It's not like it never happened before. The things that have occurred under the powers previously (and quite probably now) under the radar running things still looms and is holding a dark heavy cloud above him. You have to admit, that criminality is their modus operundi.

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/19/2009 @ 2:51 pm PT...





The 1773 protest was against multi-national corporatism in collusion with the British government at the time. I'd suspect that 99% of the folks at this week's protest haven't a clue about that, otherwise, they'd be yelling and screaming to end our Corporatocracy, which they were not. Hmmm... Sound like fascism to me . . . The drift Wilburrr... and I got was an anti Obama

and fox "news" sour grapes partisan division. Furthermore ...and as "Grass roots" as a bikini waxing . . .

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/19/2009 @ 2:55 pm PT...





I so totally understand the urges to cut Obama slack. Because he's not * is a major incentive. Because he's intelligent is a major incentive. Because he's black is a huge incentive. I might want more than I can even bear to think about for him to do well, do the right things, be, finally, the great man we need so desperately. So I really do get it. But none of these things are good reasons to think well of his work. I'm saying it's not enough to want him to do well and so try to see a way for good motives behind things that are obviously bad. He has to actually do good things and stop actually doing bad things... and trying to get away with calling them something else. I say this stuff, not only aware that he could be assassinated if he does the right things, but angry that he won't do them anyway, like certain others have done and been murdered for, BECAUSE if he does not, he is only making matters exponentially worse for the whole world. So, heartless as it may sound, I don't care if they have guns to his daughters' heads! What are they worth compared to what is being done to harm everyone? What possible decent motive could he actually have for running for president if he hasn't already decided it is worth his life and his family's lives to make the "change" he was drilling us about for so long? This isn't trivial stuff. That oath of office isn't trivial. People treat it as if one should only be held to it if it isn't scary to keep it.

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 2:58 pm PT...





Change your reality. Hope is good, but it is not what is. The walls we hold up against others have to come down. Cognitive Bias is being exploited, and it is time we all take a critical look of who and what we think we represent. Thanks 99 for hearing the broad point here.

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/19/2009 @ 3:24 pm PT...





Some things trump politics if only momentarily . . . ...cognatively we write so our hopes don't die with US.

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 4:17 pm PT...





99 #33 you got that right. here is their definition

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]

... blubonnet said on 4/19/2009 @ 4:42 pm PT...





Well, I want him to just do what needs to be done, but, in his position, I don't think we can imagine the threats that hang on him, and his family, and how to weigh out the directions of proper response. I agree that the MANY lives lost, are more important, especially when the future contains many more lives worthy of consideration, and if this is the way the US now operates, we, and the world, are in a terrible place, not only acknowledging the present, but also a grim future. I would like to just see if something happens, to bring justice and accountability back to our government, by possibly some strategy that is less apparent to us. What else can we do?

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/19/2009 @ 4:50 pm PT...





Blu, reinstate the fairness doctrine for one. There is way too much BS flying around

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/19/2009 @ 4:55 pm PT...





Yipes, Flo! OMG! Blubonnet, I'd like to think we could yell our heads off for Obama to stop being such a wuss, to start abiding by the Constitution, and if he's got something going we cannot see, no matter how discerning we are, then it actually helps him accomplish it. I honestly would love to see everyone who voted for him start coming untrained on him about these things, get it all the way out there in the public square, show the shits trying to hold him back that he's got the whole nation behind him. That might be the only thing that could back them off.... If we think he's being coerced, and we do, then he gets safer the louder and nastier we yell for him to get off his ass and perform on his promises. That's what I call being a true friend when the chips are all the way down. And why don't we make him earn some regard for a damn change? All he's done so far is talk pretty, and function poorly, function not that much unlike * did. Some people say we're such passive jerks because they put fluoride in our drinking water. Some say it's our tv sets hypnotizing us. Whatever it is, we better wake the hell up and get this stuff done, or the definition of altruism will turn into the definition of fascism. See Flo's link at #42 if you don't believe me.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 5:11 pm PT...





Brad said:

...your gross generalizations against "you all" here would be far better (and more accurately) spent on the wingnut tea bagger sore loser

The gross generelization is typed in Bold for your "news" headline, crossed out, followed by another gross generization. I admitted my mistake...

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 4/19/2009 @ 6:40 pm PT...





I don't consider you a wingnutted tea bagger sore loser, Brian. So no, I don't think the headline is inaccurate, whereas charging that "you all" here do this or that (fall for phony right/left, red/blue, con/lib, Fox/MSNBC paradigms, for instance) is inaccurate. The Ron Paul folks need to be going after the wingnuts (who I do not consider Ron Paul folks to be in the slightest) for their phony "protests" and co-opting of a legit movement --- whether I agree with all of it or not doesn't actually matter --- with a phony one, perhaps made more obvious than ever by the graphic Floridiot linked to above. I don't believe that anyone here --- or even at MSNBC for that matter (though I could be wrong) --- has been taking shots at tea baggers with hopes of hitting RP folks. The tea bagging sore losers are the ones who are currently keeping you guys down. Not me/us.

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]

... blubonnet said on 4/19/2009 @ 7:00 pm PT...





The thing is, we are not passive. We have gone out in the thousands to protest when Bush was in office, while he been turning our country into what more resembeled German in the era of Hitler. Fact is, the colluding MSM barely covered it, making the protests impotent in its declaration against whatever any one of Bush's multiple criminal operations were. Even if now that the masses GOT IT, as we could see in the latest election, the voting for change overpowering the massive attempts at thieving office, as occured previously, now our will is not exactly being considered either. You know, I'm quite sure, if the anti-democratic operations were initiated under Obama, that are being continued, from Bush, we would be screaming bloody murder as well, about, and towards Obama. Anyway, we have not been passive, but we've been shorted on coverage through the Bush years. It's amazing how when one gets your trust, you can be obligingly violated. It's like the boyfriend who says he was just making sure that the girl he was feeling up didn't have any cancerous cysts, you WANT to believe him, and there are women who would. It is true that the MSM is the biggest problem. They are owned by the defense industry. Legal accountability NEEDs to be in place to make the media do its job, especially when the outright misinformation campaigns are DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!!! The fools are kept foolish, because of their usefulness. If the FCC were doing their job making sure truth is what we got, instead of the assuredness that nastywords or bodyparts made their way to us, life would be so much better. We can be so thankful for those like Brad here are truly major players in the process of countering the massive lying operations of the GOP. Where would we be is the MSM was all we had? I shudder to think. I think much progress is being made and will continue to be made, but we still have to fight like hell, manning our keyboards, andgrily and passionately calling the liars out, all over the web, and bring validating sources to your debates.

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 4/19/2009 @ 7:30 pm PT...





Brian, would you like to address Ron Paul and his spokesman and people, saying that their Libertarian tea party's which they started during the Bush administration, and received ZERO coverage from FOX, were co-opted by the GOP and FOX only because there's not a Republican president? http://www.dailypaul.com/node/89097 http://rawstory.com/news...a_party_cannot_0415.html

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 4/19/2009 @ 7:39 pm PT...





Also, why was the guy in the video boo'd, if they aren't partisan?

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/19/2009 @ 7:40 pm PT...





The 1773 protest was against multi-national corporatism in collusion with the British government at the time. I'd suspect that 99% of the folks at this week's protest haven't a clue about that, otherwise, they'd be yelling and screaming to end our Corporatocracy, which they were not. Hmmm... Sound like fascism to me . . . The drift Wilburrr... and I got was an anti Obama

and fox "news" Sour Grapes(pun intended) partisan division. Furthermore ...and as "Grass roots" as a bikini waxing . . .

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/19/2009 @ 7:50 pm PT...





I smell a bit of a Sham going on here by capeeton screen name changer . . .

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 8:30 pm PT...





You know, I remember (many) a day in activism that I was called a sore loser, and I was like, no, it was a sham election. Votes were hidden, voters purged, laws broken..And there I am the other day, being called a sore loser from people who were allied with me 8 years ago. And now in Bradblog, and MSNBC, it continues....divide and conquer is the name of the game.

Dr. Paul was not my pick for President, though I agee with a lot of his equations. I did vote for McKinney, and no, I will not comment on what Ron Paul says.

"Jeff in Penscola" did great, I praise him, but the nature of this headline is not doing us any good. Fox did corrupt this effort, just how much and in what ways we disagree. I think it did more than you give it credit for.

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]

... Brad Friedman said on 4/19/2009 @ 8:51 pm PT...





Brian - It may have. But in reply to your concerns (and to a few of 99's as mentioned above), ridicule is an important tool in the arsenal of speaking the truth. It can also be very effective. (See Team Bush's use of "sore loser" in 2000 and again in 2005). For the record, I don't believe that you, Brian, are a sore loser. And if you believed I was calling you that, then I'm certainly willing to apologize. I wasn't, because I don't believe you're a "wingnut", as used to describe the "sore losers" being referenced in the headline. (And yes, I very much believe they are nothing more than sore losers, at this point. And P.S., I didn't vote for Obama either.)

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]

... the zapkitty said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:06 pm PT...





And while we debate the shiny object of the rather inconsequential tea parties it seems that the rethugs have smashed Florida over the head from behind and are running like hell with the 2010 elections in their pocket. Call to Stop (new) Florida Voter Disenfranchisement: Action Item at DailyKos. [ed note: Fixed yer link here, zap. --99] [2nd ed note: Okay, I went through some changes to get to that link and fix it here, and it was working just fine when I went to bed. I'm chuffed. I now officially suspect foul play at Kos, but will try again when I have some more coffee in me. --99] [3rd ed note: Nope. Just did a diary search at Kos and it ain't there. It was there last night. --99]

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:15 pm PT...





I'm not particularly happy bout everything Mr. B.H.O. does butt ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0jyKabLHVc Tho I applaud anyone that makes their position known and works peacefully and honestly toward their hopes . . .

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:25 pm PT...





Well ,

I thank everyonee for the dialouge. This was a great conversation. I hope we all thought for a second. Brad, I especially appreciate you taking the time to respond thoughtfully.

I am touched by this subject right now, because I am fighting off allegations of me being a racist for joining in these parties. It all came together for me when I saw a critical review of Kieth Olbermans guest, Janine Gorofolo, just slam everyone there as racist, and a sore loser. In my opinion these young activists are playing right into the media's dividing arms. So, I had to comment here, thanks again for listening.

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]

... Brian said on 4/19/2009 @ 9:28 pm PT...





Bamboo Harvestor, your excluded from that thanks.

You seem to still think this about the President for me. Check yourself.

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/19/2009 @ 11:34 pm PT...





"Brian" ~ Unless your a mind reader don't profess to state what I think! Cuzz ... you ain't got a Clue "..." ???????????? The nose knows ... Chief!

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/20/2009 @ 4:56 am PT...





Linky not there for Zaps #56

COMMENT #62 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/20/2009 @ 5:43 am PT...





Had this thought this morning, from the second of the work injury I received in '02 I woke up then to find that I live in some kind of an authoritarian shit hole. I'm waiting for the Soylent Green truck to pull up at any minute to claim its prize.

COMMENT #63 [Permalink]

... the zapkitty said on 4/20/2009 @ 6:07 am PT...





... Floridiot said... "Linky not there for Zaps #56" Flo, don't know what's up with that dairy, but this seems to be the bill that they were referencing:

http://www.tampabay.com/...lature/article992793.ece So the question is... is there anything to it?

COMMENT #64 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/20/2009 @ 6:17 am PT...





OMG ZAP!, just another way to disenfranchise the old, brown, old and brown and poor. The hypocrisy reeks from that Cuban-American butthole (who was most likely put up to it by whitey) They never stop

COMMENT #65 [Permalink]

... Floridiot said on 4/20/2009 @ 9:01 am PT...





Zap, while I was looking for your story earlier I found this: Democrat Scott Murphy's lead in NY-20 increased by almost 100 more votes today. It now stands at 264 over Republican Jim Tedisco. (79,722 to 79,458). Tedisco's chances appear to be dimming as more ballots are counted. There still remain hundreds of challenged ballots --- mostly Murphy votes, challenged by Tedisco.

COMMENT #66 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/20/2009 @ 10:17 am PT...





I am heavily creeped out by the disappearance of that diary. Maybe the author just changed his mind and yanked it, or maybe it got yanked for him, whutever... that stuff just happens too often at DailyKos. It always has to be about voting problems. Someone once asked me to post a diary there for her because she didn't want to risk losing her standing by memorializing something about election fraud, even from an impeccable source, and it seems she wasn't just being paranoid.

COMMENT #67 [Permalink]

... the zapkitty said on 4/20/2009 @ 2:39 pm PT...





Was this page hijacked by digg? http://digg.com/d1p4Yo as per: http://firedoglake.com/2...use-or-stealing-content/ Testing. If so this comment will not appear on bradblog...

COMMENT #68 [Permalink]

... the zapkitty said on 4/20/2009 @ 2:44 pm PT...





Hmmm... okay, I misunderstood what Jane Hamsher meant... is a straight Iframe of Brad's page. Interesting.

COMMENT #69 [Permalink]

... Agent 99 said on 4/20/2009 @ 3:53 pm PT...





I think all those "aggregation" sites are as bad as the "reality" shows on tv... signs of the end times. Scary appeals to groupthink and moral decay, obviously cannibalistic capitalism, all kinds of trouble and wasted time for every bit of help they might offer pointing people toward good work, and I really hope somebody can come up with something better. Though, I keep having the feeling that we have hit the ceiling for improvement through capitalism, that any advancement of our societies and technologies will now have to come through other means. Think of how much better some things could immediately become if we just abolished money... other things would take a little longer, but I think it would be worth it anyway.

COMMENT #70 [Permalink]

... Bamboo Harvester said on 4/20/2009 @ 11:02 pm PT...





Wilburrr... ~ Wasn't "Joe the Plumbing" a.k.a. "Joe WeaselPecker" at one of these affairs . . .

COMMENT #71 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 4/21/2009 @ 5:49 am PT...





I went to a "tea party" in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. It was right outside my work, so on my way home, I just walked across the street to see what was going on. Off to the side, there were some young kids with Obama signs, and an older man was telling them they should get down on their knees and read the bible. Then, a 20-something year old kid began telling me how he was against Obama's bailouts. I asked him if he knew that Bush & Paulson started the bailouts, and he said that wasn't true, it wasn't "in the papers" anywhere...which it was btw...the kid appeared to be drunk to me, not that that matters. But, that's what I saw at the WB "tea party". Then some guy was speaking, and I couldn't even hear him.

COMMENT #72 [Permalink]

... Big Dan said on 4/21/2009 @ 5:51 am PT...





There was definitely a mood there, where you better not say anything bad about Republicans...as that video in this post shows. The "tea party's" are definitely a pro-GOP thing.

COMMENT #73 [Permalink]

... Damail said on 4/22/2009 @ 9:41 pm PT...

