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Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka





Yup, I've distracted myself again. Hang on lemme find some piece of music to go along with the oligatory banner.









Hey its better than the asian food advert I have in my Fallout thread! ...Yeah I could have gone with the game's main theme, but well if you haven't played the Tamriel Rebuilt mod for Morrowind then for shame! Shame!



Sorry, lost track of what I was saying with all that shaming I was doing there. Oh right, aye where was I? Damn its almost if I'm waffling for the lack of content I have for this first post. With Frostgrave out and me having played Mordheim ages ago and never really picked it up, but liking it, I thought I'd try getting into that system. But what models should I use? I did think making a Song of Ice & Fire's Night's Watch actually, though then went back to an idea that I'd had, but shelved to work on S.T.A.L.K.E.R. instead.



So here we go then. The start of my foray into making models based on the Elder Scrolls series. Tentatively I'm beginning with Morrowind, partly because the art style's less generic than the later games, but mostly as its my favorite of the series and screw you if you're expecting me to bother with any other practical reason other than my own bias.



Enough waffling then. Here's the start on a Dunmer warband, though I'd hope to expand on this significantly to cover more than just a ragtag band of brigands and sellswords (House Guards, Ordinators, Buoyant Armigers and the like)







So, using the achetypes from the Frostgrave ruleset as a basis, the above's broken down as the following from left to right:



> A thug wearing regular Dunmer clothes with a Redoran Watchman helm and a chitin club.



> An infantryman wearing chitin armour and carrying a chitin spear.



> A Telvanni apprentice mage wearing the robes of his House and a Mole Crab Helm.



> A Man at Arms wearing House Dres Bonemold Armour and armed with a steel cutlass.



> And a thug wearing Netch Leather Armour and wielding an iron axe.



Those are all made from a spare box of Fireforge Games Steppe Warriors from the game Deus Vult with a load of added greenstuff.



I'll need to add to that to make a complete warband for games. Probably a few more guys in Bonemold or Chitin or an archer. The leading Wizard is also missing as of yet, though their apprentice is there. I'm considering going for a guy in Bonemold robes with a glass weapon to set him apart from the typical Wizard look (he'd be a Redoran in that case).



Before I started reading the rules and found out that they didn't allow for mounted units (houserule that!) I had the idea of sticking in one to the band. A House Guard riding a Durzog is what came to mind (I've seen people have Dunmer riding Guars and fleas, but they don't look quite so martial as a giant lizard). Really early with this, and I'd liked to have been further along, but it took forever to hack the head off of this hippopotamus model...







We'll see where this goes then. If this does carry through long enough then I'll be in the unfortunate situation of having yet another box of terrain sitting in the stack with my other stuff. I'll resent not using appropriately themed terrain in games for a while, but like I said if this gains enough traction then hopefully I can throw out some stuff (I've been making Middle Eastern buildings for a thread that've given me ideas). Its a start at least. Now to working out how to change my signature so I can fit in all these threads... Yup, I've distracted myself again. Hang on lemme find some piece of music to go along with the oligatory banner.Hey its better than the asian food advert I have in my Fallout thread! ...Yeah I could have gone with the game's main theme, but well if you haven't played the Tamriel Rebuilt mod for Morrowind then for shame! Shame!Sorry, lost track of what I was saying with all that shaming I was doing there. Oh right, aye where was I? Damn its almost if I'm waffling for the lack of content I have for this first post. With Frostgrave out and me having played Mordheim ages ago and never really picked it up, but liking it, I thought I'd try getting into that system. But what models should I use? I did think making a Song of Ice & Fire's Night's Watch actually, though then went back to an idea that I'd had, but shelved to work on S.T.A.L.K.E.R. instead.So here we go then. The start of my foray into making models based on the Elder Scrolls series. Tentatively I'm beginning with Morrowind, partly because the art style's less generic than the later games, but mostly as its my favorite of the series and screw you if you're expecting me to bother with any other practical reason other than my own bias.Enough waffling then. Here's the start on a Dunmer warband, though I'd hope to expand on this significantly to cover more than just a ragtag band of brigands and sellswords (House Guards, Ordinators, Buoyant Armigers and the like)So, using the achetypes from the Frostgrave ruleset as a basis, the above's broken down as the following from left to right:> A thug wearing regular Dunmer clothes with a Redoran Watchman helm and a chitin club.> An infantryman wearing chitin armour and carrying a chitin spear.> A Telvanni apprentice mage wearing the robes of his House and a Mole Crab Helm.> A Man at Arms wearing House Dres Bonemold Armour and armed with a steel cutlass.> And a thug wearing Netch Leather Armour and wielding an iron axe.Those are all made from a spare box of Fireforge Games Steppe Warriors from the game Deus Vult with a load of added greenstuff.I'll need to add to that to make a complete warband for games. Probably a few more guys in Bonemold or Chitin or an archer. The leading Wizard is also missing as of yet, though their apprentice is there. I'm considering going for a guy in Bonemold robes with a glass weapon to set him apart from the typical Wizard look (he'd be a Redoran in that case).Before I started reading the rules and found out that they didn't allow for mounted units (houserule that!) I had the idea of sticking in one to the band. A House Guard riding a Durzog is what came to mind (I've seen people have Dunmer riding Guars and fleas, but they don't look quite so martial as a giant lizard). Really early with this, and I'd liked to have been further along, but it took forever to hack the head off of this hippopotamus model...We'll see where this goes then. If this does carry through long enough then I'll be in the unfortunate situation of having yet another box of terrain sitting in the stack with my other stuff. I'll resent not using appropriately themed terrain in games for a while, but like I said if this gains enough traction then hopefully I can throw out some stuff (I've been making Middle Eastern buildings for a thread that've given me ideas). Its a start at least. Now to working out how to change my signature so I can fit in all these threads...

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Paradigm













UK

UK Legendary Master of the Chapter

Great start! Tabletop ES is (very far down) on my 'must try one day' list, so I'll be following along with interest/possibly awe!

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka





To lead the warband I'm going for another Telvanni mage. Originally I was going to go for a Redoran one, till I considered that the apprentices in Frostgrave are styled after their masters, so went for the same house instead. I'm basing the model on this piece of art. Not sure if I want to give them a helmet or to try and find a suitable elven head in my collection instead.







Secondly, either as a wandering construct or to act as a summoned demon for my wizard, I've started on a Flesh Atronach Daedra. I'm going for the Elder Scrolls Online version rather than the original Shivering Isles one as the Reaper Flesh Golem that I have handy looks more like that (though the base model's already a golem, it needs lot of work to make it look less derpy).







Those are the two things planned for today. I should be able to finish the mage, we'll see about the Atronach. Besides those I'm still short on a good few models for my starting warband, who'll mostly be wearing the low tier armour sets from the game (I'll keep the better sets for the more expensive soldiers, and leave the really good stuff to levelled up units or scenario specific encounters).

My lamp's bulb's just burnt itself out, so pictures may have to wait a bit till I can replace that, However I'll tell y'all what I'm making today anyway.To lead the warband I'm going for another Telvanni mage. Originally I was going to go for a Redoran one, till I considered that the apprentices in Frostgrave are styled after their masters, so went for the same house instead. I'm basing the model on this piece of art. Not sure if I want to give them a helmet or to try and find a suitable elven head in my collection instead.Secondly, either as a wandering construct or to act as a summoned demon for my wizard, I've started on a Flesh Atronach Daedra. I'm going for the Elder Scrolls Online version rather than the original Shivering Isles one as the Reaper Flesh Golem that I have handy looks more like that (though the base model's already a golem, it needs lot of work to make it look less derpy).Those are the two things planned for today. I should be able to finish the mage, we'll see about the Atronach. Besides those I'm still short on a good few models for my starting warband, who'll mostly be wearing the low tier armour sets from the game (I'll keep the better sets for the more expensive soldiers, and leave the really good stuff to levelled up units or scenario specific encounters).

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest



Subbed I've wanted to see this for so long. Too bad it's DumnerSubbed

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Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

darkcloak













Canada

Canada Frenzied Berserker Terminator

This is awesome.



Morrowind is probably my favourite game of all time.





Gets along better with animals... Go figure. Gets along better with animals... Go figure.

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka

I'll get onto other countries eventually probably. For a start thought I like Morrowind's visuals, so that's what I'm making models based on. Foreign mercenaries and the Legion however are present in the province. Hmn, I'd say that as far as the time period goes I'll be going for after the Red Year, but before Skyrim (Frostgrave's set in a ruined city, well there's quite a few of those in Morrowind now...). I'm not sure what models to use for Argonians though if I am going for that setting?

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Paradigm













UK

UK Legendary Master of the Chapter

Reaper do a few Lizardmen across their various lines that might be suitable, if you're up for sculpting the right armour on them.



GW 's Lizardmen are probably too different without heavy conversion; not only would you need to repose them to be more upright, but the Aztec influence wouldn't really fit either.

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest

You may have to scratchbuild some argonians depending on what style you want (from each game), but going off of ESO lore you COULD use GW lizzy aztec weapons and bits

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Stormwall













Longtime Dakkanaut

Your GS skill is remarkable. More please.Yourskill is remarkable.



http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/568699.page#6349942

whalemusic360 wrote:

Alph, I expect like 90 sets of orange/blue from you. Alph, I expect like 90 sets of orange/blue from you. My mostly terrain and Sons of Orar blog:

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka

lgs had some of those in stock months ago. I had a look through Reaper's range, but most of its in GW 's style unfortunately (which would do for particularly large Argonians or creatures inhabiting Black Marsh I suppose). Argonians look more like this, which sadly Reaper doesn't have much of.







After Oblivion the Argonians did go rather native. They invaded Morrowind and seceded from the Empire, presumably throwing off Imperial culture as well. To that end I'd imagine that Argonians from Black Marsh would be wearing stuff like scale armour, leather, bone, etc, but with ones living outside of that area looking a bit more "civilized". That's the good thing about how Skyrim advanced the plot a bit, most of the provinces went back to their own culture instead of adopting the Imperial style.

I forgot about Reaper and the silly number of models they have. Damn, and now I remember that myhad some of those in stock months ago. I had a look through Reaper's range, but most of its in's style unfortunately (which would do for particularly large Argonians or creatures inhabiting Black Marsh I suppose). Argonians look more like this, which sadly Reaper doesn't have much of.After Oblivion the Argonians did go rather native. They invaded Morrowind and seceded from the Empire, presumably throwing off Imperial culture as well. To that end I'd imagine that Argonians from Black Marsh would be wearing stuff like scale armour, leather, bone, etc, but with ones living outside of that area looking a bit more "civilized". That's the good thing about how Skyrim advanced the plot a bit, most of the provinces went back to their own culture instead of adopting the Imperial style.

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Paradigm













UK

UK Legendary Master of the Chapter

Yeah, I only had a hazy recollection of exactly what Reaper did for Lizards.



Would there be any mileage in using normal human bodies and sculpting tails/scales on exposed flesh/adding lizard heads? Don't know how hard that would be in practice.

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka

I'm not really prepared to sculpt a whole head from scratch. Bodies are easy, faces not so much, which is why I use pre-made heads unless they're wearing a helmet. Presumably I could buy a set of lizardman heads that're the right size and style (the same with cat ones too), its just finding them however.



Oh and if I'm doing either of the (main, there's a few) beast races then I would be going for the Morrowind anatomy rather than the human one which appears in later games. I could just use regular human upper bodies, it'd be the legs which would need to be sculpted.



The Telvanni mage is almost finished, its just his staff left to do. Looking at him now I'm not sure if such a dynamic pose is really suitable. He's advancing forward with his staff raised, but looks like he's moving too fast for a Telvanni. =/

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest



Spoiler: I assume you're going for skyrim esque argonians? Morrowind's style may be easier

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka

What I'd do would be to take a human torso and arms and replace the head (which thinking about it I could do helmet wearing ones which would be easier to sculpt). With the legs I'd cut them off at the groin and repose the thighs so they're facing forward. The calves and feet would need to be done from scratch. Though there was a mod for Skyrim which just replaced the feet which if the model already has its leg slightly bent would probably have the same effect as replacing the whole leg. I'll see what works out when I get around to making some which looks better. Of course it could be that Argonians have different sub-races like the Khajiit, so you have one which has the more human legs.

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest

) You could probably get away with using skink legs. Hell, you could use a skink head, cut off the fin, and add other argonian goodness. (I like argonians. Can you tell?

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka





Spoiler:



Here's my Telvanni mage in all his green glory.



Oh, then I'll get right onto making a Dunmer in Argonian Skin Armour in a bit.Here's my Telvanni mage in all his green glory.

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Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest

Dirty slaver scum

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka





Don't worry, I imagine that Argonians enslaved a deal of Dunmer during their invasion if that's of consequence. Or ate/ sacrificed them. Wait, no, that's the Bosmer. And there's me just lost a poster.Don't worry, I imagine that Argonians enslaved a deal of Dunmer during their invasion if that's of consequence. Or ate/ sacrificed them. Wait, no, that's the Bosmer.

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Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest

I hate you. I have to stay subbed!

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

carlos13th













Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.

Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared. Incorporating Wet-Blending

I am all for this.

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

thenoobbomb















North of your position

North of your position Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings







Needs more Pelinal Whitestrake to slaughter all those Elves, though! Most interesting.Needs more Pelinal Whitestrake to slaughter all those Elves, though!

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka







Right, points if you can guess what this little floating lady's going to be?

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest

Almalexia?

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

thenoobbomb















North of your position

North of your position Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings

Her head looks like Vivec's

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka

WIP in a bit (some people spend days sculpting...).







My Telvanni wizard is going to be a summoner, so the Atronach will count as a lesser Demon for Frostgrave.

Damn, I thought that was an easy one. Guess nobody cheated and read the image title. Its going to be a Skyrim style Flame Atronach. I've sculpted about half of it, so I should manage to post up ain a bit (some people spend days sculpting...).My Telvanni wizard is going to be a summoner, so the Atronach will count as a lesser Demon for Frostgrave.

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

thenoobbomb















North of your position

North of your position Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings

Oh, cool!

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

LeCacty













Mysterious Techpriest

It may be easier to make one from morrowind, but the ones from skyrim are so fething COOL!

Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka









Did Flame Atronachs ever have tails? For some reason I want to give this thing a tail.



Sculpting continues on the Flesh Atronach as well. I've blocked out the main components, now its filling those out and detailing them. Once the body's done then I have to add on the armour and source some chains for all the shackles (I did have some metal Black Cat ones, but can't find them in the mounds of loose bits I have. Craft chain may do, but I'd rather have the cast ones). Oh and its face looks real derpy.







Spoiler:

Damn the concept art one's missing its lower jaw. It'd probably be harder to make one of the older ones because they have less detail, whereas the newer ones are just a case of copying the designs.Did Flame Atronachs ever have tails? For some reason I want to give this thing a tail.Sculpting continues on the Flesh Atronach as well. I've blocked out the main components, now its filling those out and detailing them. Once the body's done then I have to add on the armour and source some chains for all the shackles (I did have some metal Black Cat ones, but can't find them in the mounds of loose bits I have. Craft chain may do, but I'd rather have the cast ones). Oh and its face looks real derpy.

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Subject: Re:Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)

Wyrmalla















Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland Fixture of Dakka





Firstly here's the House Guard now finished. I added some wee Daedric characters to break up the colours a bit.









And, somehow before the cannon-fodder's done, here's the big man himself, the Telvanni mage.









Two out of ten models for a starting warband painted. My current planned warband will be: 1x Wizard, 1x Apprentice, 3x Thugs, 3x Arches, 1x Man at Arms and 1x Warhound (which doesn't match up with all the models that I've made so far, but meh, spares).



And another new model.The Flame Atronach looks like its ready for a lick of paint.



For today's viewing guff, I've managed to paint my first models for this thread.Firstly here's the House Guard now finished. I added some wee Daedric characters to break up the colours a bit.And, somehow before the cannon-fodder's done, here's the big man himself, the Telvanni mage.Two out of ten models for a starting warband painted. My current planned warband will be: 1x Wizard, 1x Apprentice, 3x Thugs, 3x Arches, 1x Man at Arms and 1x Warhound (which doesn't match up with all the models that I've made so far, but meh, spares).And another new model.The Flame Atronach looks like its ready for a lick of paint.

Subject: Under an Ashen Sky - The Elder Scrolls in 28mm (Frostgrave)