

I found a datura plant.If you are one of these people that say i shouldnt do it because it's dangerous and you dont know the potency, with all the due respect GTFO . I think i should start REAAAAly low by trying the 1/3 of a leaf the next 2/3 and so on.Do you have any suggestions? I'll move slowly 'till i hit the sweet spot!



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Umm, for one Datura is the ultimate in psychedelics, personally I would not recommend it for abuse, as it can seriously fuck you up spiritually and leave you needing soul retrieval, but if you are serious, I've read that the natives would first start with the seeds (being the least potent), working your way up to stems/leaves, then going full bloom on the flower. I would recommend not doing it alone, since you can become seriously ill and will need help in a possible situation, if possible. This is treading on, dangerous ground and would not influenece you to go through with it, unless you have experience in use of poisons such as henbane, nightshade, mandrake, etc., but if you do, use discretion, and most definitely start at a super low dose.



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Do you have any information on what dose i should start? I cant find anuthing in the interwebs



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Do you have any information on what dose i should start? I cant find anuthing in the interwebs







I wonder why.....



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http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum /showwiki.php?title=Datura



Seeds are definitely recommended for a first time, and even smoking it is better than consuming it, if I was going to, I would crush up the said amount of leaf (maybe 1/3-1/5th of a leaf) and mix it with some ganja or tobacco. Datura is associated with a lot of negative experiences/energy, being like evil DMT, I'm not egging you on, but don't say I didn't warn you. Have as much fun as you can, and be safe.



http://www.erowid.org/plants/dat ura/datura_dose.shtml



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http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum /showwiki.php?title=Datura



Seeds are definitely recommended for a first time, and even smoking it is better than consuming it, if I was going to, I would crush up the said amount of leaf (maybe 1/3-1/5th of a leaf) and mix it with some ganja or tobacco. Datura is associated with a lot of negative experiences/energy, being like evil DMT, I'm not egging you on, but don't say I didn't warn you. Have as much fun as you can, and be safe.



http://www.erowid.org/plants/dat ura/datura_dose.shtml





Thanks a lot you've been a great help to me unlike the spammer above.



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Absolutely no problemo, one of my friends was absolutely obsessed with Datura, also make sure you know the genus of your Datura, that way you can hopefully find a potency on your plant material.



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You're ignorant beyond belief. You sound like my brother.....



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i happened to stumble upon a couple of datura plants in my local botanical gardens the other day. not sure what genus they are. one had white flowers and the other had pink ones. its tempting to go over there and pick some leaves to smoke but considering i often have a rough time with shrooms, perhaps datura would be a bit too much for me. also i've heard so many horror stories about the stuff. just doesn't seem worth it to me anyways, be safe



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let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.



cez said:

everyone should smoke dmt for religion.



dustinthewind13 said:

euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.



White Beard said:

if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.



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2 words- TRIP SITTER



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Has anyone ever truly had a good wonderful experience on datura?



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the whole idea of a trip sitter seems strange to me. if you need someone to sit around and make sure you dont act like a retard because you decided to imbibe a particular substance, then perhaps you should reframe from using said substance in the first place.



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Kupo said:

let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.



cez said:

everyone should smoke dmt for religion.



dustinthewind13 said:

euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.



White Beard said:

if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.



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Datura put me in the hospital.

Darwinism at it's best. Call me whatever you want young traveller, but consuming Datura is a terrible idea.

It fucked me up for life, you might think I'm a "spammer" (wrong word btw).

I love you as a human kindred spirit and beg of you to grow a couple cakes and trip face on mushrooms. I can tell you are a younger human by your speech patterns, why don't you think of how every one you care about would feel if you wound up a vegetable or died?

Also, I am Native American we NEVER used datura for anything other than poisoning an enemy.

Known as "crazy leaf" because my ancestors had to put down horses after they consumed the plant. Another fact 1 in approx 13 humans has a natural allergy to Datura and 1 seed will shut down their liver, similar to mushroom poisoning and dies.

Have fun with that. One less stupid noob!

All love

BC



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I don't use trip sitters, but I don't take deliriants like datura. I've heard of some extremely unsafe situations from datura. You really don't know what is real and what isn't. Unless you lock yourself in a padded room, you should have a trip sitter for datura IMO>



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Datura put me in the hospital.

Darwinism at it's best. Call me whatever you want young traveller, but consuming Datura is a terrible idea.

It fucked me up for life, you might think I'm a "spammer" (wrong word btw).

I love you as a human kindred spirit and beg of you to grow a couple cakes and trip face on mushrooms. I can tell you are a younger human by your speech patterns, why don't you think of how every one you care about would feel if you wound up a vegetable or died?

Also, I am Native American we NEVER used datura for anything other than poisoning an enemy.

Known as "crazy leaf" because my ancestors had to put down horses after they consumed the plant. Another fact 1 in approx 13 humans has a natural allergy to Datura and 1 seed will shut down their liver, similar to mushroom poisoning and dies.

Have fun with that. One less stupid noob!

All love

BC







quoted for truth, aka QFT.



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TheShroomingAtheis said:[/b I think i should start REAAAAly low by trying the 1/3 of a leaf the next 2/3 and so on.Do you have any suggestions? I'll move slowly 'till i hit the sweet spot!







Good plan... except there's one flaw in your plan, homie.



There's no sweet spot.



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I found a datura plant.If you are one of these people that say i shouldnt do it because it's dangerous and you dont know the potency, with all the due respect GTFO . I think i should start REAAAAly low by trying the 1/3 of a leaf the next 2/3 and so on.Do you have any suggestions? I'll move slowly 'till i hit the sweet spot!





Sorry but there is no way to standardize a dose of Datura from plant material without extracting it. A quantity of leaves harvested one day could be safe then lethal in the same amounts the next day due to change in overall alkaloid levels in the plant. The plant can even shift from different levels of toxicity at different times of the day. This is one among many reasons it is either tabooed or greatly respected by cultures that even bother to use it. Permanent side effects, nasty adverse reactions and death are never off the table dealing with this stuff.



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Use cramp bark to lower the dose of Datura needed for visual effects. Quote:

If you mix 4 tsp of cramp bark with 5 Datura inoxia seeds, its possible to experience closed eye visual effects after about an hour into the experience. It's mild at this dose and some people might need a higher dose.



The visuals experienced are complex, colorful, but only seen with the eyes closed.



The scopoletin in the cramp bark potentiates the visual effects of the scopolamine in the Datura inoxia seeds, while counteracting the deliriant effects of the scopolamine. So you feel sharp, alert, not mentally sedated.









http://herbs.maxforum.org/2010/0 9/03/cramp-bark-datura-inoxia-clo sed-eye-visuals/



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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine

2)Amanita (urine drank twice)

3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)

4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)

5)Salvia (need to try quid)





All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.



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Datura put me in the hospital.

Darwinism at it's best. Call me whatever you want young traveller, but consuming Datura is a terrible idea.

It fucked me up for life, you might think I'm a "spammer" (wrong word btw).

I love you as a human kindred spirit and beg of you to grow a couple cakes and trip face on mushrooms. I can tell you are a younger human by your speech patterns, why don't you think of how every one you care about would feel if you wound up a vegetable or died?

Also, I am Native American we NEVER used datura for anything other than poisoning an enemy.

Known as "crazy leaf" because my ancestors had to put down horses after they consumed the plant. Another fact 1 in approx 13 humans has a natural allergy to Datura and 1 seed will shut down their liver, similar to mushroom poisoning and dies.

Have fun with that. One less stupid noob!

All love

BC





I would love to try mushrooms but i cant find anything except pan cincs. which suck.



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