*GenericHandle* said: Wait, people outside of Tweek get results with BowJow? Click to expand...

Gonna add onto my previous post, I may play a character known for his edgeguarding, but that's a sad thing to be known for. Countless characters have good edgeguarding and they don't make use of it. Ever dealt with a giant disjoint? Ike and Shulk would love to smack your *** away from the ledge. Ever kissed the toes of an evil, old man? Ganondorf has been doing that **** since Melee.Fox players going for shine spikes now aren't edgeguarding. They're styling and trying to recreate Melee in a game where Reflector is not Melee's frame 1 Reflector. What they should be doing is making use of Nair's lingering frames and the fact you can do a stupid thing where Fire Fox and Fire Bird kind of linger at the ledge. Hell, trapping people with Fair and attempting to Fair spike them is better even though it's risky. Trying and failing gets you a 50%, but not doing anything gets you a 0.Oh, and what the hell is up with people trying to get that 1 frame or Dairing onto the ledge. Are you stupid? 1 frame is like playing the lottery and Dairing onto the ledge is letting yourself suffer unwanted landing lag. Hell, you all see people run off the ledge and attack thin air while the opponent is way above them and they know it. I'm damned sure they ain't blind. So why? What the hell are you doing running off and using an aerial like that? If you jumped and intercepted them, that's better even if they don't die. At least you're pressuring them and damaging them. Even if you miss, at least you don't look stupid attacking thin air.Playing like a "scrub" and spamming Mario's Fireballs is still a better option than sitting there and waiting for your opponent to come back. This ain't a gentleman's duel. If it were, everyone would be using rapiers or flintlock pistols, but do people do that? No, we've got hammers, swords, bombs, superpowers, and dirty boxing.At the same time, spamming projectiles despite your opponent clearly being above or below where you're firing is also stupid. Out of your range and still firing is also stupid. Freaking Little Mac and Shulk might have horrible Bairs for ledge trumps, but guess what? They can ledge trump, get back on the stage, and force you to grab the ledge or get onto the stage where they're waiting. Little Mac would gladly play ledge grab and Down Smash your face. The game's almost a year old and the edgeguard game is almost the same: a trainwreck. Only a couple of players do it well and that's because they're playing characters who are "safe" edgeguarders like Jigglypuff. Really? Jigglypuff edgeguarding is a thing when Jigglypuff can glide around the air and jiggle-slam your face in. Sheik should be Fairing you away from the ledge every chance she gets. Oh, you're close to the stage, again? ***** slap. Again? ***** slap. Sheik should be ****-slapping you like A Pimp Named Slickback and not waiting around checking her shoes.Andy_Sauro, a defensive Bowser Jr. Look him up.