Ford said Trump’s winning campaign was built largely on the model of President Barack Obama, who combined the promise of change with superior data and coordination.

“Obama had 50 data points on every voter in 2012, which was a lot,” said Ford. “We have 500 this year. It’s really kind of spooky when you look at what both parties are doing.”

Many people have said they not only opposed Trump, but are afraid of him. Ford said they should not believe all the rhetoric.

“The biggest problem people have with politics is the negativity,” he said. “People say Trump is a racist. But if you really go back, he’s made no comments that show he doesn’t like black people. When he’s talked about Hispanics, it’s been about violent criminals who’ve been in this country illegally. It’s not about Hispanics living in Tulsa, or Texas for that matter.

“People say he insults women,” Ford continued. “He insults everybody. Some of it was blown out of proportion.”

“I don’t know why anybody would be scared of him,” said 2nd District Congressman Markwayne Mullin, who campaigned for Trump. “He might not always say the nicest things, but he tells the truth. He’s blunt.”

A lot of people disagree on both points.