Zayner took issue not just with the fact that Ascendance Biomedical are labeling their DIY vaccines as "cures," but equally so with the fact that they've provided no data for the general public. "They claim transparency," Zayner said in his Facebook post, "but have provided no data, information, DNA sequences or materials to third parties for testing and verification."

Which is where he and Traywick differ, according to Zayner. While he's strongly emphasized and practiced transparency through his biohacking work, Traywick and his team have yet to provide any evidence that their treatments even work.

However, when I spoke to Traywick soon after all of this went down, he informed me that "we are as dedicated to providing full transparency regarding our work as we offered in the original live-stream." And that, "In the coming days, our website revamp will include an option for individuals to examine relevant QC and conceptual paperwork related to the current stage of development for each of our 14 gene therapy projects currently In-development at our BSL2 laboratories."

When I asked him if there was any particular reason that he and his company refrained from sharing data and test results before going forward with this so publicly, he stated, "It takes our public information a bit longer to get up when we are actively conducting on-the-ground research, and right now we've got two more live testings planned prior to next Saturday. (HSV Vaccine - Andreas Stuermer; HIV Cure Phase Two, Tristan Roberts)."

With the FDA recently sending out warnings against experimental DIY gene therapies, you would think the biohacking community would lay low and strategize their next move. However, it would seem that they're moving full speed ahead and they refuse to look back. And despite whatever disagreements Zayner and Traywick may have each other's method of approach, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that we've yet to see the last of either individuals or of any controversial biohacking in general.

What do you think?