Ariana Grande and Nicki Minaj went full fitspo last month at the VMAs when they performed “Side By Side” in a workout setting, Grande starting the show on a stationary bike while belting out the lyrics. Looked tiring, Ellen DeGeneres said when Grande visited the Ellen show on Wednesday.

” It was definitely tiring but I was like you know what? It was worth it. I need to be on a bike. I committed to it and stuck with it. Had the idea of the bike thing the first time I heard Nicki’s verse,” Grande told her before trying to explain the meaning behind one of the song’s choice phrases, “d— bicycle.”

“And she say’s the phrase d— bicycle. The idea was born and I really committed to it…”

And it’s true. Minaj raps, “This the new style with the fresh type of flow/ Wrist icicle, ride d— bicycle/ Come true yo, get you this type of blow. If you wanna Minaj I got a tricycle.”

When DeGeneres pressed Grande on the phrase’s meaning, the Dangerous Woman star fumbled. “You know… Kind of… I don’t actually know… I was on the bike, I sang and it happened.”