

Subaru

1-3-2-4

Premium Member

join:2001-05-31

Greenwich, CT Subaru Premium Member cities picked Are they just picking still or still doing the voting for what should be the next best one?



Karl Bode

News Guy

join:2000-03-02 1 recommendation Karl Bode News Guy Re: cities picked They do "fiberhood" rallies to determine first neighborhoods picked, but city selection remains an internal Google process.



Subaru

1-3-2-4

Premium Member

join:2001-05-31

Greenwich, CT Subaru Premium Member Re: cities picked Oh OK got it

existenz

join:2014-02-12 existenz Member Re: cities picked Provo is essentially part of SLC market, so not surprising they are expanding in that market.



Karl Bode

News Guy

join:2000-03-02 Karl Bode News Guy Re: cities picked Though they acquired an existing network in Provo, while the Salt Lake City build will be entirely new deployment.

existenz

join:2014-02-12 existenz Member Re: cities picked Good point.



QtrlyProfits

@google.com QtrlyProfits to Karl Bode

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Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits said by Karl Bode: Though they acquired an existing network in Provo, while the Salt Lake City build will be entirely new deployment. Google may end up slowing down their broadband deployment soon. Due to investor complaints about not paying attention to qtrly profits, they just hired Morgan Stanley's CFO to be their new CFO. Expect Google to become more like most companies that are in thrall to Wall St banking interests and start focusing on improving qtrly results.



»www.sltrib.com/home/2327 ··· porat-as

»www.wsj.com/articles/mor ··· ope_home Due to investor complaints about not paying attention to qtrly profits, they just hired Morgan Stanley's CFO to be their new CFO. Expect Google to become more like most companies that are in thrall to Wall St banking interests and start focusing on improving qtrly results.

Kearnstd

Space Elf

Premium Member

join:2002-01-22

Mullica Hill, NJ 1 recommendation Kearnstd Premium Member Re: Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits Not a good thing, Pandering to the quarterly kills innovation in all industries.

96964493 (banned)

join:2015-01-09

USA 96964493 (banned) Member Re: Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits its a wonderful thing. Those investors should be able to demand a return on their investments. Google should not be given a free ride just to build a network and give the entire thing away. Maybe Google will sell it off like all of their contracts allow after 2 years of operation.

Kearnstd

Space Elf

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join:2002-01-22

Mullica Hill, NJ Kearnstd Premium Member Re: Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits its a terrible thing, INvestors that only think quarter to quarter are like guys who only get hookers, They want a quick thrill and leave without a care for the long run. A successful company goes for the long game and the articles all mention Google still has lots of cash. So they are clearly not running the company in the red.



boohoo

@pppoe.ca boohoo Anon Re: Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits said by Kearnstd: INvestors that only think quarter to quarter are like guys who only get hookers, They want a quick thrill and leave without a care for the long run. Your analogy is terrible. I'll take the first option. The second (realistic) option for a variety of reasons just results in little to no sex.



Matt

@shawcable.net 1 recommendation Matt to Kearnstd

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Not really. Google's cash flows and expected cash flows in the future push its share price sky high. Google has treasury shares that they sell to raise capital to fund the crazy ideas of theirs.

Fast Turtle

join:2008-02-19 1 recommendation Fast Turtle to Kearnstd

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That happened as soon as the IPO was inked.

existenz

join:2014-02-12 1 recommendation existenz to QtrlyProfits

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I was wondering that too when reading a WallStreet guy was hired for CFO. Could mean a lot of killed projects and sold off services, including possibly Google Fiber at some point. Long term projects and WallStreet don't mix.

96964493 (banned)

join:2015-01-09

USA 96964493 (banned) Member Re: Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits About damn time from the shareholders!

rahvin112

join:2002-05-24

Sandy, UT 1 recommendation rahvin112 to QtrlyProfits

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Not likely. Larry Page and Sergey Brin have greater than 51% voting share. They have total control over the company just like Zuckerberg at Facebook. There can never be a shareholder revolt in such a situation because no matter how many shares a activist acquires they can never get controlling interest. It was precisely because of how Page and Brin structured Google that Facebook was structured the same way.



This is the new model of internet companies that the biggies are using to ensure they can pursue long term goals without wall street forcing them to sacrifice long term growth for short term gain. Though I have no doubt that they did hire a wall street CFO it's probably more an attempt to sell their vision than to actually change how Google works.

96964493 (banned)

join:2015-01-09

USA 96964493 (banned) Member Re: Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits Not true. The shareholders can sue and in fact they can get the SEC to step in. Google doesn't want their books checked by the SEC with all of their numbers finally coming out. Once your shareholders start bitching the only thing you need after that is Ican to come in.

existenz

join:2014-02-12 existenz to rahvin112

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said by rahvin112: Though I have no doubt that they did hire a wall street CFO it's probably more an attempt to sell their vision than to actually change how Google works. That would be the ideal outcome.

mob (banned)

On the next level..

join:2000-10-07

San Jose, CA 1 recommendation mob (banned) to QtrlyProfits

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said by QtrlyProfits : said by Karl Bode: Though they acquired an existing network in Provo, while the Salt Lake City build will be entirely new deployment. Google may end up slowing down their broadband deployment soon. Because I want to say that Due to investor complaints about not paying attention to qtrly profits, they just hired Morgan Stanley's CFO to be their new CFO. In my opinion, I think you should expect Google to become more like most companies that are in thrall (really? ENTHRALLED) to Wall St banking interests and start focusing on improving qtrly results.



»www.sltrib.com/home/2327 ··· porat-as

»www.wsj.com/articles/mor ··· ope_home Due to investor complaints about not paying attention to qtrly profits, they just hired Morgan Stanley's CFO to be their new CFO. In my opinion, I think you should expect Google to become more like most companies that are in thrall (really? ENTHRALLED) to Wall St banking interests and start focusing on improving qtrly results. The instant Google stops innovating, they will instantly be killed by every other company in Silicon Valley and the corpse picked clean in an hour. They bought access with the hire, not a mindset of "fight for a few pennies now so that we can skip the bigger payout later and let it go to the person or person that was willing to miss a arbitrary number set by a person that only seeks to increase their arbitrary numbers, not create new technology or innovate in any fashion".

That. Mindset. Does. Not. Work. In. This. World. That. Mindset. Does. Not. Work. In. This. World.



KrK

Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy

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join:2000-01-17

Tulsa, OK 1 recommendation KrK to QtrlyProfits

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Very bad news. Innovation dies.

96964493 (banned)

join:2015-01-09

USA 96964493 (banned) to QtrlyProfits

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About damn time! Now time for a new CEO that listens to its shareholders. Where is Ican at when a company needs him.



Kick GF to the curb or actually make it a company. Great news!

mob (banned)

On the next level..

join:2000-10-07

San Jose, CA 1 recommendation mob (banned) Member Re: Google's new CFO to focus on qtrly profits said by 96964493: About damn time! Now time for a new CEO that listens to its shareholders. Where is Ican at when a company needs him.



Kick GF to the curb or actually make it a company. Great news! It's pretty obvious you have no idea how Google works, or innovation happens. You seem to be more concerned about a competitor showing up and upsetting the chokehold maintained on the US population by big cable and telcos.

96964493 (banned)

join:2015-01-09

USA 96964493 (banned) to Karl Bode

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Re: cities picked Better known as they were GIVEN the network FREE and clear while the idiot tax payers are paying off the debt and will for years to come. Poor saps.

96964493 96964493 (banned) to Subaru

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Basically make neighborhoods beg and plead for services than tell those with little to no support to go FUrself and move on without them. They cherry pick just like VZ FiOS but its supported when it comes to Google.

chrismitt

join:2012-07-09

Orange, CA chrismitt Member Compitition Come to phx google give Cox and century the lost link a run for their money we desperately need the competition so it will force them to lower their prices



Time

Premium Member

join:2003-07-05

Irvine, CA Time Premium Member Re: Compitition You're getting gigablast sooner than anyone else. They need to come to Vegas, you guys can wait.



bockbock

@hcs.net bockbock Anon Re: Compitition What? I thought it was the other way around. I though LV was getting CenturyLink gigabit fiber or it was already installed.

chrismitt

join:2012-07-09

Orange, CA chrismitt to Time

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You have the same 2 isp's we do here in phx



Zenit

The system is the solution

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join:2012-05-07

Purcellville, VA Zenit Premium Member Poor CenturyLink So, what will be CenturyLink's move once this actually becomes deployed?



Who is the Cable MSO in SLC?



The incumbents are probably sobbing a bit in their milk right now.

existenz

join:2014-02-12 existenz Member Re: Poor CenturyLink CenturyLink and others should be able to compete well with the middle tier bundles since GF doesn't offer anything in the middle - yet.



v6movement

@cgocable.net v6movement Anon Re: Poor CenturyLink said by existenz: CenturyLink and others should be able to compete well with the middle tier bundles since GF doesn't offer anything in the middle - yet. So that isn't much competition.

rahvin112

join:2002-05-24

Sandy, UT rahvin112 to Zenit

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Comcast and Centurylink are the two biggies. There are other minor players serving business interests in the area of salt lake county that is salt lake city the only two residential players are Comcast and Centurylink.



Overall Salt Lake City proper is pretty small compared to the entire metro area. If they served the entire salt lake county it would be upwards of a million people and if you tag in the other metro areas along the Wasatch front (Provo to Ogden) you get to about 2 million. On the other hand Salt Lake City proper is only about 300K people.



I'd be more impressed with an announcement to serve the county but that would put them in competition with Utopia as well. I wager their plan is to simply absorb Utopia for some nominal fee at some point down the road when the cities get tired of subsidizing it. Unfortunately for Utopia it was very very poorly managed and Comcast/Centurylink played dirty and they are basically screwed at this point without continual cash infusions from the city. But that's a LONG story.

rockphantom

Premium Member

join:2015-02-17

Austin, TX rockphantom Premium Member Does ANYONE in Austin reading this have Google Fiber yet?!? I live in the Hyde Park area and am not holding my breath waiting for GF.

Papageno

join:2011-01-26

Portland, OR Papageno Member Grrr, Portland's never getting Google Fiber, is it? Just generalized complaining, nothing to see here.

96964493 (banned)

join:2015-01-09

USA 96964493 (banned) Member Re: Grrr, Portland's never getting Google Fiber, is it? If its not deployed by now, you'll never see it. The same as those other crazy cities that are hoping for service.

Mibo

join:2014-04-05

Kansas City, KS Mibo Member 0011001010101100 Means more people wondering why they can't find AMC on their tv guide



Kc1948

@googlefiber.net Kc1948 Anon Google Fiber I have Google Fiber in KC. Fantastic! Great product and first class customer service. Google has installed KC from scratch with over 8,000+ miles of fiber either underground or on poles. The only thing you should remember is it took KC about 3 years from start to home installations. They are more concerned with quality than fast sloppy installations. You like KC will be frustrated as you wait for the best internet service available. Do not fail to sign up and encourage your friends and neighborhood to sign up. Google Fiber installs based on demand in your "fiberhood". The more sign ups in your neighborhood the quicker you will get service. Google Fiber and their competitors compete to hire contractors to install the underground and above ground cables. There are not enough contractors so that is what slows everything down. In KC ATT competes with Google to hire the contractors. ATT is adding 600 employees to compete with Google but ATT is only offering 1/3 the Internet speed. Not sure why. I visited Salt Lake City area last Christmas and saw a lot of fiber on poles already. I do not know who owns it. Google was in KC about 2 years installing backbone cable before they announced upcoming service. You can spot the fiber on poles by looking for "loops" of cable on the lowest wires on the poles. The loops are about the diameter of a basketball and allow the extra cable to be brought to the ground for additional installations. In my neighborhood everything is underground. No problems. Google works very hard to satisfy everyone when they go under your yard or city right of way. They install boxes flush with ground level and bright orange plastic conduit to connect the boxes. They then pull the cable through the Orange conduit for the fiberhood and come back in a few weeks for your home installation. They bury the cable to your house with no damage to your grass. They install a grey plastic box where the cable will come through the wall. Their modem/Cat 5/wireless router will connect at that point. If you select TV service the DVR sits on top of the router. You will need a small Google box at each TV to convert their signal so the TV can use it. The TV box is also a WiFi router. Google gives you one free TV box. Additional TV boxes are $5 per month and you OWN the box after 2 years. Other services rent the box to you forever and they make a lot of extra money on the box. You can use wireless or any existing coax for your TV/Internet service inside of your house. The TV signal is much stronger than my former coax provider Time Warner. As soon as Google was my TV was much brighter, had better colors, and the picture is more detailed. Google does not provide telephone service but they allow you to use their fiber for VOIP telephone service. I use Ooma.com and my basic phone service costs me $3.87 per month. In KC Google also is licensed for wireless service but does not offer it yet. I suspect that is a future project. They follow home service with business service a few months later. That is starting now in KC. Look for big reels of bright orange conduit. Ask the contractor who they are installing for. In Dec I saw some orange conduit on reels and contractors in the Salt Lake City area but I do not know the exact city boundaries. Note in KC they also try to add adjoining cities when those city governments are interested. Contact your city government NOW and make sure they work with Google when given the opportunity. Some suburban cities adjoining KC passed on their opportunity and now their citizens are out of luck and very unhappy. Other cities figured it out their citizens were angry at missing Google Fiber service so they worked with Google Fiber to get service after the first sign up cities are installed. Better late than never.

existenz

join:2014-02-12 1 edit existenz Member Re: Google Fiber



edit: And post your own Google Fiber review here...

»Company entry - Google Fiber You might try using paragraphs next time.edit: And post your own Google Fiber review here...

ILikeTech

join:2015-03-09 ILikeTech Member Salt Lake city area already has "utopia" fiber network quote: Not only does UTOPIA deliver at blistering speeds, but our network is also built for extremely high volume. UTOPIA can provide a minimum of at least 10Mbps connection to every home and up to 10Gbps connection to businesses. These connection speeds are base speeds that can increase according to individual needs Are they just going to take over the existing gigabit fiber network in the city? several of the municipalities in the area already have the utopia service available to them