France goes to the polls today to vote in the first round of the presidential election. Below is the first part of an interview conducted by an annoying progressive media snoid with one of the candidates, Marine Le Pen.

Note: when Ms. Le Pen and her interlocutor discuss “S-files”, they are referring to residents of France with known terrorist connections for whom a dossier known as an S-file has been compiled by French intelligence.

Many thanks to Ava Lon for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Transcript:

00:04 Political interview live from Marseille this morning. Fabien Namias, you’re hosting Marine Le Pen.

00:08 Good morning, Marine Le Pen. —Good morning. —Last night in Marseille, while discussing the arrest

00:12 of the two men who were planning an attack, you talked about the S-files

00:16 as “a huge shadow army which would like to teach us to live in terror.”

00:20 Concretely and very simply how your policies would prevent

00:24 the S-files [terrorists with those files on them] from engaging in terrorist activities?

00:28 Well, very clearly the foreign S-files will be immediately deported from our territory.

00:32 The dual-nationals will be subjected to the procedure of revoking [French] nationality,

00:36 and will be — as the result of this procedure — deported as well.

00:40 Concerning the French S-files, they will be subject

00:44 to the article 411/4, meaning

00:48 the article which considers spying for the enemy a crime,

00:52 all links with an organization that has

00:56 criminal enterprises concerning France and the French people, well,

01:00 will be covered by this judicial procedure.

01:04 But… in detail, what you just said, you are suggesting the deportation of foreigners with

01:08 S-files. Today it’s a measure that the law doesn’t permit. We can’t.

01:12 There’s nothing in the law allowing us to deport the S-files, because we can’t deport someone

01:16 who didn’t commit a crime. So how are you going to get around the law?

01:20 Or do we need to change the law? —Monsieur, I think the French people

01:24 are the owners of their country, that as a result… —Yes, but there are the laws… —No, no,

01:28 as a result, a foreigner is on our territory because we authorize him to be there.

01:32 The law definitely allows immediate the deportation of people

01:36 who have been proven to have links to Islamic fundamentalism. Voilà.

01:40 The law allows their deportation if crimes were committed, not if… —No, Monsieur, no,

01:45 …not if there is the presumption of a crime… No, no I’m sorry, Monsieur, if a foreigner

01:49 represents a danger to the public order — and it is the case [with the S-files] — well, he can be

01:53 immediately deported. And it has to be done, because there are ten thousand S-files

01:57 who have links with Islamist Fundamentalism. Ten thousand in our country!

02:01 Without counting those who are planning to come back. Can you imagine

02:05 the load of work this represents for our intelligence services, for our

02:09 police, to have to follow ten thousand! So if we are able to deport those

02:13 who shouldn’t be on our territory, we won’t deprive ourselves of that!

02:17 But even you mentioned — you just did — article 411/4 of the penal code.

02:21 You are an advocate; you are a lawyer; you know those subjects perfectly well. This article

02:25 that mentions spying for the enemy, it was written to deal with high treason, with espionage,

02:29 but cannot be applied to terrorism! It’s, I think, book 4

02:33 of the penal code… —But why? —because there is the law concerning terrorism, but

02:37 this article cannot be applied to terrorism —It’s funny; every time I suggest something, I am told

02:42 it’s impossible. Well, I am a lawyer; I was an advocate for 6 years, I tell you it’s possible!

02:45 But it’s the law! —For the simple reason that this article about spying for the enemy

02:49 includes not only the foreign states, you’re right, but also organizations

02:53 which must be on a list; incidentally, I am surprised that the government

02:57 still hasn’t prepared that list; we might want to do it together on the edge of a table… because

03:01 it’s quite simple: al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram,

03:05 Al-Nusra, and so on. Well, each and

03:09 every person having any link — any link, Monsieur Namias — with

03:13 one of those organizations, a list of which will be composed, will be prosecuted and tried

03:21 for spying for the enemy. We are at war or we are not.

03:25 If we are at war, then we have to fight against terrorism.

03:30 Today this war isn’t being fought. —On those subjects that are at issue

03:34 and that worry the French people there is an obligation for precision. You spoke a very

03:38 important sentence during your meeting; not yesterday in Marseille, but on Monday in Paris,

03:42 “the immigrant terrorists of the Bataclan couldn’t have entered France.”

03:46 In this case it’s not true, since those terrorists were

03:50 born in France. —No, Monsieur… —The four terrorists who committed

03:54 the massacre at the Bataclan, all four of them were born in France. —No, Monsieur, NO, Monsieur, NO!

03:58 There were two attacks that same evening, you know it well:

04:02 the stadium, the café terrace and the Bataclan; the four at the Bataclan were born in France.

04:05 Well, that night there were three people who had infiltrated the migrant wave

04:09 who weren’t French, who were sent by the Islamic State,

04:14 whose travel to our country was facilitated by the fact that

04:18 we have no borders, and that as a result the porosity

04:22 between the different countries of the EU and — you must admit it —

04:26 the “Swiss cheese” that in fact serves as the borders of Europe,

04:30 allowed this terrorist to come to France. —But there were still terrorists who were born in France,

04:33 Marine Le Pen, who were there and were not subject to deportation. —Monsieur, I am…

04:38 I explained to you the three cases… —One must be precise in those subjects. —Fine, don’t try

04:42 to explain to me or to French people that nothing can be done! I am telling them:

04:46 We can! You are trying to make excuses for those who did nothing for the last couple of years;

04:50 well, I for one make no excuses! And I… —No, I’m only trying to understand how you wish to fight…

04:53 —and I will fight the curse of terrorism, it’s as simple as that! —Monsieur, I already

04:58 answered you! The foreign S-files will be deported, the dual-national S-files will have

05:03 their nationality revoked, and the French S-files will be prosecuted and tried