Roonweld Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 144 Posts #1 Hey!



Roon here again, this time, I'm wanting to know how I can get more involved into the eSports community.



I am very passionate about gaming, not so much maknig games, or even being a professional gamer. I just want to contribute, to be there 30 years from now and say "I was there when it was in its infancy". This is something I really do care about, but I'm not so sure how to break into the field.



I have contacted Playhem, the lady I spoke with, and she said she loved my enthusiasm, said she could see what she could do, and to turn in my resume. I turned it in, and no reply (but it was holidays) one month later, and several Emails - still no reply. I have also contacted MLG for a possible internship, but also no reply.



Alas, I come to you guys, Is anyone here an event organizer, or director, or in charge of advertising or ANYTHING!? This is something I know I would love to do, not even in it for the money.



I am 18 y/o and live in Michigan, so I've been kinda waiting for a tournament to be held in the Detroit area so maybe I can help there. My mom doesn't understand what its like to be passionate about something so big like this. And I know a lot of you guys are, so please and thanks to any Tips, advice, help, or opportunities I may be able to take advantage of.



Thanks a bunch!



Roon.565 Twitter @RoonSC

Bagration Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 18142 Posts #2 Get some friends together, see if you can find a small bar or something, and see if you can organize a barcraft. There is a lot that you can do, whether from being a mod on a stream, or spreading esports awareness among your peers and friends, or even writing articles on esports news. Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever

Manifesto7 Profile Blog Joined November 2002 Osaka 26236 Posts #3 Moved to blogs. Moderator @Manifesto7 - Ancient.

Roonweld Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 144 Posts #4 On January 19 2012 11:57 Bagration wrote:

Get some friends together, see if you can find a small bar or something, and see if you can organize a barcraft. There is a lot that you can do, whether from being a mod on a stream, or spreading esports awareness among your peers and friends, or even writing articles on esports news.



Hey, thanks for the reply, I know you have to get a start somewhere, and those sounds like viable options, but I'm more or less asking on how to get a job, into the eSports community, a way or entry point to reach that goal.



Also - Thanks for moving post, If i'm not sure I just post in the SC2 General Hey, thanks for the reply, I know you have to get a start somewhere, and those sounds like viable options, but I'm more or less asking on how to get a job, into the eSports community, a way or entry point to reach that goal.Also - Thanks for moving post, If i'm not sure I just post in the SC2 General Twitter @RoonSC

imEnex Profile Joined June 2011 Canada 492 Posts #5 Getting into e-sports as a professional job is very difficult when you don't have history with the game. People who have casted Broodwar (Tasteless for an example) have an easier time to get into the scene.



BUT don't give up, try making a youtube channel, do some VOD commentaries there, get some popularity and expand on it. Husky, who was a casual SC2 youtube commentator, is now casting for MLG occasionally. Maybe something like that can expand your goal for e-sports.



GL man, hope this helps. Program yourself to Success

Roonweld Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 144 Posts #6 On January 19 2012 12:04 imEnex wrote:

Getting into e-sports as a professional job is very difficult when you don't have history with the game. People who have casted Broodwar (Tasteless for an example) have an easier time to get into the scene.



BUT don't give up, try making a youtube channel, do some VOD commentaries there, get some popularity and expand on it. Husky, who was a casual SC2 youtube commentator, is now casting for MLG occasionally. Maybe something like that can expand your goal for e-sports.



GL man, hope this helps.



hahahah - thanks man, but I can't imagine myself being a commentator, I think I'm more interested in behind the scenes stuff, like...an organizer - someone that makes sure everything is running smoothly. People are where they are suppose to be, matches are on time. No issues with streams, those kind of things. I think that the prospects of being a caster are not so good because of the number of casters already out there, and the people that want to be casting.



Sorry if I didnt clear some of that up. My apologies. I'm in school right now for business and management. I want to be able to represent a brand, and rep it to its fullest! =) hahahah - thanks man, but I can't imagine myself being a commentator, I think I'm more interested in behind the scenes stuff, like...an organizer - someone that makes sure everything is running smoothly. People are where they are suppose to be, matches are on time. No issues with streams, those kind of things. I think that the prospects of being a caster are not so good because of the number of casters already out there, and the people that want to be casting.Sorry if I didnt clear some of that up. My apologies. I'm in school right now for business and management. I want to be able to represent a brand, and rep it to its fullest! =) Twitter @RoonSC

imEnex Profile Joined June 2011 Canada 492 Posts #7 On January 19 2012 12:13 Roonweld wrote:

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On January 19 2012 12:04 imEnex wrote:

Getting into e-sports as a professional job is very difficult when you don't have history with the game. People who have casted Broodwar (Tasteless for an example) have an easier time to get into the scene.



BUT don't give up, try making a youtube channel, do some VOD commentaries there, get some popularity and expand on it. Husky, who was a casual SC2 youtube commentator, is now casting for MLG occasionally. Maybe something like that can expand your goal for e-sports.



GL man, hope this helps.



hahahah - thanks man, but I can't imagine myself being a commentator, I think I'm more interested in behind the scenes stuff, like...an organizer - someone that makes sure everything is running smoothly. People are where they are suppose to be, matches are on time. No issues with streams, those kind of things. I think that the prospects of being a caster are not so good because of the number of casters already out there, and the people that want to be casting.



Sorry if I didnt clear some of that up. My apologies. I'm in school right now for business and management. I want to be able to represent a brand, and rep it to its fullest! =) hahahah - thanks man, but I can't imagine myself being a commentator, I think I'm more interested in behind the scenes stuff, like...an organizer - someone that makes sure everything is running smoothly. People are where they are suppose to be, matches are on time. No issues with streams, those kind of things. I think that the prospects of being a caster are not so good because of the number of casters already out there, and the people that want to be casting.Sorry if I didnt clear some of that up. My apologies. I'm in school right now for business and management. I want to be able to represent a brand, and rep it to its fullest! =)



Oh didn't know you were interesting in production, sorry! I have a question, do you have any experience with production? I'm guessing your resume had information that involved organizer-production stuff. In my opinion, try contacting smaller companies, not MLG (very big) since it would be easier to get into. Once that happens, just try expanding on it!

Oh didn't know you were interesting in production, sorry! I have a question, do you have any experience with production? I'm guessing your resume had information that involved organizer-production stuff. In my opinion, try contacting smaller companies, not MLG (very big) since it would be easier to get into. Once that happens, just try expanding on it! Program yourself to Success

Roonweld Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 144 Posts #8 On January 19 2012 12:23 imEnex wrote:

Oh didn't know you were interesting in production, sorry! I have a question, do you have any experience with production? I'm guessing your resume had information that involved organizer-production stuff. In my opinion, try contacting smaller companies, not MLG (very big) since it would be easier to get into. Once that happens, just try expanding on it!





Thanks for your continued help!



I have no production skills as of yet, or even hot to obtain them. Can you help me find/name some smaller companies (within the SC2/gaming community) that can use some help? Or am I going about this the wrong way?

Thanks for your continued help!I have no production skills as of yet, or even hot to obtain them. Can you help me find/name some smaller companies (within the SC2/gaming community) that can use some help? Or am I going about this the wrong way? Twitter @RoonSC

Day[9] Profile Blog Joined April 2003 United States 7366 Posts #9 The #1 currency is CONTRIBUTION. Start contributing RIGHT NOW! You might say to yourself "I'm trying to contribute, I just can't find a job yet!" I want to caution you away from that line of thought. That's "willingness to help." There's an enormous world of difference between "I'm ready to help you" vs "I'm making awesome stuff w/o anyone telling me too." You wanna be that second guy! It all depends on your skillset.



Examples:

The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with graphics work.

The right way - Mocking up graphics for that organization and sending it to them, saying "Hey, I made you some graphics because I love what you do. I'd be delighted to do more if you want" (This is how I got my graphics/web designer).



The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with tournament organization.

The right way - Organize and run regular tournaments, and then step up to an organization and say "Hey, I've been successfully running these tournaments, do you want to cross promote? Or perhaps we could merge our two efforts together into a super tournament?"



The wrong way - Polling reddit to see if people have interest in a BarCraft in your area.

The right way - Organize the damn BarCraft and invite people to attend!



See what I mean? :D Think about every "known person" in eSports. 99% of them began creating stuff without anyone telling them to. It is THE KEY to getting yourself out there.



SO GET STARTED TODAY ^_^_^_^_^_^ Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv

imEnex Profile Joined June 2011 Canada 492 Posts #10

Day[9], your words of wisdom are so helpful! You continue to expand e-sports to what it is today, I love you <3

Program yourself to Success

Day[9] Profile Blog Joined April 2003 United States 7366 Posts #11 Oh, to finish my point:



Once you've begun contributing and creating a ton, THEN you have the currency you need to earn any type of job you'd be searching for. Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv

Roonweld Profile Blog Joined October 2011 United States 144 Posts #12 On January 19 2012 12:30 Day[9] wrote:

The #1 currency is CONTRIBUTION. Start contributing RIGHT NOW! You might say to yourself "I'm trying to contribute, I just can't find a job yet!" I want to caution you away from that line of thought. That's "willingness to help." There's an enormous world of difference between "I'm ready to help you" vs "I'm making awesome stuff w/o anyone telling me too." You wanna be that second guy! It all depends on your skillset.



Examples:

The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with graphics work.

The right way - Mocking up graphics for that organization and sending it to them, saying "Hey, I made you some graphics because I love what you do. I'd be delighted to do more if you want" (This is how I got my graphics/web designer).



The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with tournament organization.

The right way - Organize and run regular tournaments, and then step up to an organization and say "Hey, I've been successfully running these tournaments, do you want to cross promote? Or perhaps we could merge our two efforts together into a super tournament?"



The wrong way - Polling reddit to see if people have interest in a BarCraft in your area.

The right way - Organize the damn BarCraft and invite people to attend!



See what I mean? :D Think about every "known person" in eSports. 99% of them began creating stuff without anyone telling them to. It is THE KEY to getting yourself out there.



SO GET STARTED TODAY ^_^_^_^_^_^



I'm so giddy right now I don't know what to say. I greatly appreciate your reply, it seriously means a lot. Just went into inspiration mode. I'll definitely have to brainstorm and come up with something.



You have already made me think in a whole perspective that I haven't even considered. Can't thank you enough.



Roon I'm so giddy right now I don't know what to say. I greatly appreciate your reply, it seriously means a lot. Just went into inspiration mode. I'll definitely have to brainstorm and come up with something.You have already made me think in a whole perspective that I haven't even considered. Can't thank you enough.Roon Twitter @RoonSC

Whole Profile Blog Joined May 2010 United States 5460 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-19 04:00:03 #13 What Day[9] is 100% correct...and if you're not in the position to help right now (plans, troubles, nothing going on, ect.), you could always help update Liquidpedia! or do small things like manage a fan club. (Updating and managing IdrA's fanclub is relatively easy, but it lets the fans enjoy so much more!)

thundertoss Profile Joined March 2010 United States 1160 Posts #14 Sean Plott dropping knowledge bombs. 100% true.



ps. Drop me a line if you need some help/ advice on how to accomplish whatever you've been inspired to do. Underneath David Kims banelings is another control group of banelings.

shindigs Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 4775 Posts #15 Day[9]'s post needs to be auto-posted in any blog that asks on how to get involved with ESPORTS



I think another thing to consider is to not only take initiative, but don't always expect something in return. Don't always think your project or graphic art will be accepted just because you took the initiative. Don't take it personally if you get rejected or ignored - a lot of administrators are super busy. Just put the content out in the community and continue submitting to organizations and just get a feel of what your'e capable of, and eventually you'll see the benefits!



Again, don't expect to be 'rewarded' immediately, getting over discouragement will already put above 90% of other people who have tried. Photographer @shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs

carloselcoco Profile Blog Joined December 2010 United States 2292 Posts #16 On January 19 2012 12:30 Day[9] wrote:

The #1 currency is CONTRIBUTION. Start contributing RIGHT NOW! You might say to yourself "I'm trying to contribute, I just can't find a job yet!" I want to caution you away from that line of thought. That's "willingness to help." There's an enormous world of difference between "I'm ready to help you" vs "I'm making awesome stuff w/o anyone telling me too." You wanna be that second guy! It all depends on your skillset.



Examples:

The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with graphics work.

The right way - Mocking up graphics for that organization and sending it to them, saying "Hey, I made you some graphics because I love what you do. I'd be delighted to do more if you want" (This is how I got my graphics/web designer).



The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with tournament organization.

The right way - Organize and run regular tournaments, and then step up to an organization and say "Hey, I've been successfully running these tournaments, do you want to cross promote? Or perhaps we could merge our two efforts together into a super tournament?"



The wrong way - Polling reddit to see if people have interest in a BarCraft in your area.

The right way - Organize the damn BarCraft and invite people to attend!



See what I mean? :D Think about every "known person" in eSports. 99% of them began creating stuff without anyone telling them to. It is THE KEY to getting yourself out there.



SO GET STARTED TODAY ^_^_^_^_^_^



Exactly what I thought!



So, would you say that I am on the right track? I host my own show for the CSL

I do it out of initiative and i keep on doing it because I love it, even if there are some people that dislike it. there is always that at least liked it. Can you let me know how I am doing? Samples are in my TL Quote Exactly what I thought!So, would you say that I am on the right track? I host my own show for the CSLI do it out of initiative and i keep on doing it because I love it, even if there are some people that dislike it. there is always that at least liked it. Can you let me know how I am doing? Samples are in my TL Quote http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!

Venerac Profile Joined December 2010 United States 196 Posts #17 On January 19 2012 12:30 Day[9] wrote:

The #1 currency is CONTRIBUTION. Start contributing RIGHT NOW! You might say to yourself "I'm trying to contribute, I just can't find a job yet!" I want to caution you away from that line of thought. That's "willingness to help." There's an enormous world of difference between "I'm ready to help you" vs "I'm making awesome stuff w/o anyone telling me too." You wanna be that second guy! It all depends on your skillset.



Examples:

The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with graphics work.

The right way - Mocking up graphics for that organization and sending it to them, saying "Hey, I made you some graphics because I love what you do. I'd be delighted to do more if you want" (This is how I got my graphics/web designer).



The wrong way - Asking an organization if they need help with tournament organization.

The right way - Organize and run regular tournaments, and then step up to an organization and say "Hey, I've been successfully running these tournaments, do you want to cross promote? Or perhaps we could merge our two efforts together into a super tournament?"



The wrong way - Polling reddit to see if people have interest in a BarCraft in your area.

The right way - Organize the damn BarCraft and invite people to attend!



See what I mean? :D Think about every "known person" in eSports. 99% of them began creating stuff without anyone telling them to. It is THE KEY to getting yourself out there.



SO GET STARTED TODAY ^_^_^_^_^_^





It still surprises me how many people "ask permission/approval" from the community before they go ahead and do what they're planning and this right here is exactly what I tell them.



JUST GO DO EEEETT!!! It still surprises me how many people "ask permission/approval" from the community before they go ahead and do what they're planning and this right here is exactly what I tell them.JUST GO DO EEEETT!!! Proud listener of "Starcast: The Starcraft Podcast". SlayerS_BoxeR//White-Ra//djWHEAT <3<3

Ariuz Profile Joined October 2011 Germany 38 Posts #18 I wish u good luck! sean just nailed it, just dot give up and do ur best!I wish u good luck!

MrBitter Profile Joined January 2008 United States 2912 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-19 12:16:28 #19 On January 19 2012 12:32 Day[9] wrote:

Oh, to finish my point:



Once you've begun contributing and creating a ton, THEN you have the currency you need to earn any type of job you'd be searching for.



Once again, the Thought-Hammer hits the proverbial nail on the head.



If you want to contribute, just fucking do it. I think that's a Day[9] quote, too. Once again, the Thought-Hammer hits the proverbial nail on the head.If you want to contribute, just fucking do it. I think that's a Day[9] quote, too.

Glurkenspurk Profile Joined November 2010 United States 1847 Posts #20 Where exactly do you live near the Detroit area? I'm in Warren! I'm willing to do some stuff.

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