Maverick_2009 Profile Joined December 2014 Arnor 1999 Posts #1 Fenrir

Interviewed



Interview with Fenrir:

-"We Will Make A Comeback"- A Chinese e-Sports magazine (Big E-Sports Magazine) located in Beijing recently interviewed EHOME.Fenrir on the 10th of April when EHOME had entered its entire team in a Cherry Cup Chinese Character Typing Tournament held there. Fenrir discusses VG, parting ways with fy, and a bit of insight into the Shanghai Major.



A translation of the full interview is given below:



Interviewer: How do you feel since joining EHOME? What is the team atmosphere like and how is the chemistry?



Fenrir: Ever since I joined the competitive scene I've been in VG, EHOME is an entirely new environment for me and has allowed me to play with some of the players I like more, like LaNm. Subsequently, team chemistry isn't a problem at all and the atmosphere is better too.



Interviewer: Would you also be willing to diligently adapt to adjustments made by the team?



Fenrir: As long as it is what the team needs, this shouldn't be an issue at all.



Interviewer: Why did EHOME select LaNm as the position 1 (carry) player?



Fenrir: Firstly, LaNm wanted to attempt it himself so we made the appropriate changes. Secondly, we believe in him and he also believes in his ability to play well.



Interviewer: Who usually calls the shots in competitions now?



Fenrir: I suppose it's LaNm. Because in the early game, the carry doesn't really get the chance to speak, they primarily emphasise on last-hitting. But overall, LaNm is still the one who calls the shots.



Interviewer: What caused you and fy, the "Divine Duo", to part ways? Were you forced to leave or did you leave of your own accord?



Fenrir: It is mostly because there were a lot of problems in VG which weren't easy to solve and our results weren't very good. Since we all knew that our results weren't very good and that it wasn't easy to make changes to the team, we all ended up in a bad sort of environment, so we decided to part ways.



Interviewer: Then, what do you think of the new VG roster?



Fenrir: From my perspective, I think BurNIng still needs someone like rOtk. Everyone knows that rOtk is good at calling the shots and instilling the feeling of awe in the players. So, in my opinion, BurNIng really needs rOtk. Sylar is also one of the carries that I admire a lot. To them, I think that it's quite a good roster.



Interviewer: A few of the bigger teams in China have changed their rosters after the roster lock deadline, can you tell us an approximate opinion of their abilities?



Fenrir: Actually, in my opinion, when it comes to changing rosters, it is still most important to look at the synergy between teammates. Take my time in VG as an example. On paper, we were a very good team and many people admired us. In reality, our chemistry wasn't great, that is to say that we couldn't perform to the maximum of our abilities as five individuals.Hence, talking about changing rosters after the deadline, the reason why teams like VG and Newbee are having good results has a lot to do with the players' chemistry after changing players.Most issues aren't identified just after changing rosters and are only realised after a period of time has passed.



Interviewer: EHOME had a rather dismal performance at the Shanghai Major but now, you guys are about to compete in the Manila Major. Which teams do you think will be a challenge to beat at the Manila Major?



Fenrir:Hmm, I think that, as far as Chinese teams are concerned, any foreign team will be a challenge. This is because the skill of the Chinese teams are no longer like last time where they could easily reach Top Three. Take the Shanghai Major as an example, it's obvious that the Chinese teams weren't like the foreign teams. That's why, even if your results in Chinese tournaments are good, once you enter the international competitions, it's an entirely different stage. So, it is better to be cautious of every team.



Interviewer: At the Shanghai Major, whether it was MVP or Secret, everyone felt that the Chinese teams' bad performance was related to the Spring Festival, what do you think?



Fenrir: Regarding the Spring Festival, its influence was only that teams didn't practise diligently as it was the Spring Festival holidays. Everyone normally uses the Spring Festival to relax and take a break, suddenly straining to prepare is naturally difficult. I think that the biggest influence of the Spring Festival was the practice, the practice arguably wasn't enough. Previously when I was in VG, I also mentioned in an interview that the training environment in China wasn't very good. Since some teams had competition fixtures, they were lazy to practise. Some teams didn't even bother with practice, such as the then adjusting iG. Since they were changing rosters, they felt that it didn't matter and didn't bother with practice. Under these circumstances, it was very difficult for Chinese teams to scrim.



Interviewer: If EHOME plays against MVP again, what do you think the odds are?



Fenrir: Maybe at the start, MVP will gain the advantage. However, as long as we adapt to their playstyle, we will make a comeback.



Interviewer: Do you have any last words?



Fenrir: Firstly, I want to thank Cherry for sponsoring us and I also want to thank the magazine and our fans for their support, we will repay it with good results and not let anyone down.



Source:



Translated by 2009 A Chinese e-Sports magazine (Big E-Sports Magazine) located in Beijing recently interviewed EHOME.Fenrir on the 10th of April when EHOME had entered its entire team in a Cherry Cup Chinese Character Typing Tournament held there. Fenrir discusses VG, parting ways with fy, and a bit of insight into the Shanghai Major.A translation of the full interview is given below:: How do you feel since joining EHOME? What is the team atmosphere like and how is the chemistry?: Ever since I joined the competitive scene I've been in VG, EHOME is an entirely new environment for me and has allowed me to play with some of the players I like more, like LaNm. Subsequently, team chemistry isn't a problem at all and the atmosphere is better too.: Would you also be willing to diligently adapt to adjustments made by the team?: As long as it is what the team needs, this shouldn't be an issue at all.: Why did EHOME select LaNm as the position 1 (carry) player?: Firstly, LaNm wanted to attempt it himself so we made the appropriate changes. Secondly, we believe in him and he also believes in his ability to play well.: Who usually calls the shots in competitions now?: I suppose it's LaNm. Because in the early game, the carry doesn't really get the chance to speak, they primarily emphasise on last-hitting. But overall, LaNm is still the one who calls the shots.: What caused you and fy, the "Divine Duo", to part ways? Were you forced to leave or did you leave of your own accord?: It is mostly because there were a lot of problems in VG which weren't easy to solve and our results weren't very good. Since we all knew that our results weren't very good and that it wasn't easy to make changes to the team, we all ended up in a bad sort of environment, so we decided to part ways.: Then, what do you think of the new VG roster?: From my perspective, I think BurNIng still needs someone like rOtk. Everyone knows that rOtk is good at calling the shots and instilling the feeling of awe in the players. So, in my opinion, BurNIng really needs rOtk. Sylar is also one of the carries that I admire a lot. To them, I think that it's quite a good roster.: A few of the bigger teams in China have changed their rosters after the roster lock deadline, can you tell us an approximate opinion of their abilities?: Actually, in my opinion, when it comes to changing rosters, it is still most important to look at the synergy between teammates. Take my time in VG as an example. On paper, we were a very good team and many people admired us. In reality, our chemistry wasn't great, that is to say that we couldn't perform to the maximum of our abilities as five individuals.Hence, talking about changing rosters after the deadline, the reason why teams like VG and Newbee are having good results has a lot to do with the players' chemistry after changing players.Most issues aren't identified just after changing rosters and are only realised after a period of time has passed.: EHOME had a rather dismal performance at the Shanghai Major but now, you guys are about to compete in the Manila Major. Which teams do you think will be a challenge to beat at the Manila Major?:Hmm, I think that, as far as Chinese teams are concerned, any foreign team will be a challenge. This is because the skill of the Chinese teams are no longer like last time where they could easily reach Top Three. Take the Shanghai Major as an example, it's obvious that the Chinese teams weren't like the foreign teams. That's why, even if your results in Chinese tournaments are good, once you enter the international competitions, it's an entirely different stage. So, it is better to be cautious of every team.: At the Shanghai Major, whether it was MVP or Secret, everyone felt that the Chinese teams' bad performance was related to the Spring Festival, what do you think?: Regarding the Spring Festival, its influence was only that teams didn't practise diligently as it was the Spring Festival holidays. Everyone normally uses the Spring Festival to relax and take a break, suddenly straining to prepare is naturally difficult. I think that the biggest influence of the Spring Festival was the practice, the practice arguably wasn't enough. Previously when I was in VG, I also mentioned in an interview that the training environment in China wasn't very good. Since some teams had competition fixtures, they were lazy to practise. Some teams didn't even bother with practice, such as the then adjusting iG. Since they were changing rosters, they felt that it didn't matter and didn't bother with practice. Under these circumstances, it was very difficult for Chinese teams to scrim.: If EHOME plays against MVP again, what do you think the odds are?: Maybe at the start, MVP will gain the advantage. However, as long as we adapt to their playstyle, we will make a comeback.: Do you have any last words?: Firstly, I want to thank Cherry for sponsoring us and I also want to thank the magazine and our fans for their support, we will repay it with good results and not let anyone down.Source: http://www.dadianjing.cn/info/18272.html Translated by 2009 Community News & Translator https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739 | @MaverickDota on Twitter | https://www.dcheng.home.blog

Forgottenfrog Profile Joined September 2004 United States 131 Posts #2 Loving the foreign interviews. I hope to see more of it.

TheEmulator Profile Joined July 2010 12999 Posts #3 On April 12 2016 11:22 Forgottenfrog wrote:

Loving the foreign interviews. I hope to see more of it.

we have another that might be up tomorrow. we have another that might be up tomorrow. Administrator

lolnoty Profile Joined December 2005 United States 6374 Posts #4 thanks for the translation! "PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy

Caladbolg Profile Joined March 2011 1490 Posts #5 Azarkon is vindicated. Lol "I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash

FiWiFaKi Profile Joined February 2009 Canada 4533 Posts #6



I'm hoping for some beef in these Chinese interviews, but all of these guys keep acting professional. Another great interview. Liquid dota really delivering... And also a nice time to be a TL fan. The effort isn't going unnoticed.I'm hoping for some beef in these Chinese interviews, but all of these guys keep acting professional. In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major

TheEmulator Profile Joined July 2010 12999 Posts #7 On April 12 2016 15:05 FiWiFaKi wrote:

Another great interview. Liquid dota really delivering... And also a nice time to be a TL fan. The effort isn't going unnoticed.



I'm hoping for some beef in these Chinese interviews, but all of these guys keep acting professional. Another great interview. Liquid dota really delivering... And also a nice time to be a TL fan. The effort isn't going unnoticed.I'm hoping for some beef in these Chinese interviews, but all of these guys keep acting professional.

Thanks for the kind words.



And yea, one would think there would be more drama in Chinese interviews considering the state of their scene Thanks for the kind words.And yea, one would think there would be more drama in Chinese interviews considering the state of their scene Administrator

Atoissen Profile Joined July 2011 Norway 840 Posts #8 Great with some insight into the Chinese scene... Interesting to me that he actually says Chinese teams seems bad at practice, they have been lazy and its hard to scrim.

You saw a big change in practice and "the will to win" in the western scene once the majors startet... I wonder why the Chinese scene didnt bite on the bait aswell... its soooo much money!? “Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”

Shikada Profile Joined May 2012 Serbia 312 Posts #9 Thanks for the interview. LiquidDota really delivering

Kraznaya Profile Joined August 2010 United States 1808 Posts #10 ti2 champs are a bigger running joke than the ti1 and ti3 champs smh do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?

haduken Profile Joined April 2003 Australia 1125 Posts Last Edited: 2016-04-12 10:33:07 #11 On April 12 2016 16:08 Atoissen wrote:

Great with some insight into the Chinese scene... Interesting to me that he actually says Chinese teams seems bad at practice, they have been lazy and its hard to scrim.

You saw a big change in practice and "the will to win" in the western scene once the majors startet... I wonder why the Chinese scene didnt bite on the bait aswell... its soooo much money!?



not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...



the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same. not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same. Rillanon.au

Shrinkzxo Profile Joined August 2014 Dotoland 268 Posts #12 On April 12 2016 15:28 TheEmulator wrote:

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On April 12 2016 15:05 FiWiFaKi wrote:

Another great interview. Liquid dota really delivering... And also a nice time to be a TL fan. The effort isn't going unnoticed.



I'm hoping for some beef in these Chinese interviews, but all of these guys keep acting professional. Another great interview. Liquid dota really delivering... And also a nice time to be a TL fan. The effort isn't going unnoticed.I'm hoping for some beef in these Chinese interviews, but all of these guys keep acting professional.

Thanks for the kind words.



And yea, one would think there would be more drama in Chinese interviews considering the state of their scene Thanks for the kind words.And yea, one would think there would be more drama in Chinese interviews considering the state of their scene



Hmmm..it depends on the interviewee. Hmmm..it depends on the interviewee. Translator https://twitter.com/shrinkzxo

wims80 Profile Joined February 2014 1861 Posts #13 On April 12 2016 16:08 Atoissen wrote:

Great with some insight into the Chinese scene... Interesting to me that he actually says Chinese teams seems bad at practice, they have been lazy and its hard to scrim.

You saw a big change in practice and "the will to win" in the western scene once the majors startet... I wonder why the Chinese scene didnt bite on the bait aswell... its soooo much money!?

He said that it was hard to scrim during Chinese New Years. I'm sure it would be hard for western teams to find scrim partners during christmas as well He said that it was hard to scrim during Chinese New Years. I'm sure it would be hard for western teams to find scrim partners during christmas as well Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?

Maverick_2009 Profile Joined December 2014 Arnor 1999 Posts #14 As noted in the interview, Spring Festival/Chinese New Year is a holiday period in China normally meant for family reunions etc much like Christmas is in the West, except for an arguably longer period. Add to that what has constantly been cited as the reason for EHOME's dismal performance at the Shanghai Major, coming off a 3:0 win against EG in MDL certainly made them overconfident and naturally, everyone took a break and didn't practise as much and teams weren't available to scrim. Many players, without a doubt, felt the same as iG, the standard Chinese reshuffle period is during the Spring Festival which coincided with the roster lock deadline AFTER the Spring Festival so they felt it pointless to work hard and all that since they're most likely going their separate ways after the Spring Festival.



As for drama in the Chinese scene, there's a lot of flaming etc but nothing genuinely worth making into news unless we're truly desperate so as to resort to publishing petty and insignificant things as news which imo would mar our professionalism. Community News & Translator https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739 | @MaverickDota on Twitter | https://www.dcheng.home.blog

Thezzphai Profile Joined October 2010 Germany 549 Posts Last Edited: 2016-04-12 12:41:21 #15 On April 12 2016 19:32 haduken wrote:

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On April 12 2016 16:08 Atoissen wrote:

Great with some insight into the Chinese scene... Interesting to me that he actually says Chinese teams seems bad at practice, they have been lazy and its hard to scrim.

You saw a big change in practice and "the will to win" in the western scene once the majors startet... I wonder why the Chinese scene didnt bite on the bait aswell... its soooo much money!?



not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...



the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same. not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same.

Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making? Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making?

Maverick_2009 Profile Joined December 2014 Arnor 1999 Posts #16 On April 12 2016 21:40 Thezzphai wrote:

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On April 12 2016 19:32 haduken wrote:

On April 12 2016 16:08 Atoissen wrote:

Great with some insight into the Chinese scene... Interesting to me that he actually says Chinese teams seems bad at practice, they have been lazy and its hard to scrim.

You saw a big change in practice and "the will to win" in the western scene once the majors startet... I wonder why the Chinese scene didnt bite on the bait aswell... its soooo much money!?



not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...



the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same. not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same.

Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making? Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making?

there aren't sources or figures, but players themselves do say that they make a lot from streaming especially since streaming companies sign contracts with players for streaming. And if you consider how the revenue comes in from streaming where more viewers = more pay, china's huge ass playerbase where the top streamers i.e. YYF, kaka, longdd, they get a good >200k viewers a day and on especially good days, they actually get over a million viewers there aren't sources or figures, but players themselves do say that they make a lot from streaming especially since streaming companies sign contracts with players for streaming. And if you consider how the revenue comes in from streaming where more viewers = more pay, china's huge ass playerbase where the top streamers i.e. YYF, kaka, longdd, they get a good >200k viewers a day and on especially good days, they actually get over a million viewers Community News & Translator https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739 | @MaverickDota on Twitter | https://www.dcheng.home.blog

Thezzphai Profile Joined October 2010 Germany 549 Posts #17 On April 12 2016 21:59 2009 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 12 2016 21:40 Thezzphai wrote:

On April 12 2016 19:32 haduken wrote:

On April 12 2016 16:08 Atoissen wrote:

Great with some insight into the Chinese scene... Interesting to me that he actually says Chinese teams seems bad at practice, they have been lazy and its hard to scrim.

You saw a big change in practice and "the will to win" in the western scene once the majors startet... I wonder why the Chinese scene didnt bite on the bait aswell... its soooo much money!?



not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...



the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same. not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same.

Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making? Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making?

there aren't sources or figures, but players themselves do say that they make a lot from streaming especially since streaming companies sign contracts with players for streaming. And if you consider how the revenue comes in from streaming where more viewers = more pay, china's huge ass playerbase where the top streamers i.e. YYF, kaka, longdd, they get a good >200k viewers a day and on especially good days, they actually get over a million viewers there aren't sources or figures, but players themselves do say that they make a lot from streaming especially since streaming companies sign contracts with players for streaming. And if you consider how the revenue comes in from streaming where more viewers = more pay, china's huge ass playerbase where the top streamers i.e. YYF, kaka, longdd, they get a good >200k viewers a day and on especially good days, they actually get over a million viewers

I always thought those numbers were fake. I always thought those numbers were fake.

Shrinkzxo Profile Joined August 2014 Dotoland 268 Posts #18 On April 12 2016 23:31 Thezzphai wrote:

Show nested quote +

On April 12 2016 21:59 2009 wrote:

On April 12 2016 21:40 Thezzphai wrote:

On April 12 2016 19:32 haduken wrote:

On April 12 2016 16:08 Atoissen wrote:

Great with some insight into the Chinese scene... Interesting to me that he actually says Chinese teams seems bad at practice, they have been lazy and its hard to scrim.

You saw a big change in practice and "the will to win" in the western scene once the majors startet... I wonder why the Chinese scene didnt bite on the bait aswell... its soooo much money!?



not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...



the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same. not enough money considering how rich the Chinese streaming market is...the fact is, it's easier and you get more pay to be a popular streamer than a progamer... even with international $$ and it's waay easier to be a popular streamer than maintain the level required to be a top tier progamer these days... and you have to count on the rest of your team and other teams in your scene to do the same.

Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making? Any source on the amount of money the streamers are making?

there aren't sources or figures, but players themselves do say that they make a lot from streaming especially since streaming companies sign contracts with players for streaming. And if you consider how the revenue comes in from streaming where more viewers = more pay, china's huge ass playerbase where the top streamers i.e. YYF, kaka, longdd, they get a good >200k viewers a day and on especially good days, they actually get over a million viewers there aren't sources or figures, but players themselves do say that they make a lot from streaming especially since streaming companies sign contracts with players for streaming. And if you consider how the revenue comes in from streaming where more viewers = more pay, china's huge ass playerbase where the top streamers i.e. YYF, kaka, longdd, they get a good >200k viewers a day and on especially good days, they actually get over a million viewers

I always thought those numbers were fake. I always thought those numbers were fake.



They are inflated. But outsider won't know what the real number is. The real issue is that players are obliged by contract to stream. Sylar said it was his naïveté that he did not exclude the streaming in his contract with LGD

They are inflated. But outsider won't know what the real number is. The real issue is that players are obliged by contract to stream. Sylar said it was his naïveté that he did not exclude the streaming in his contract with LGD Translator https://twitter.com/shrinkzxo

Azarkon Profile Joined January 2010 United States 10523 Posts Last Edited: 2016-04-12 16:45:14 #19 Many Western Dota players also have required hours on twitch these days, to help pay for themselves, I believe.



But it's not though you can't practice through public games. Isn't that what the Koreans did?