Writer/actor/podcaster Sean Clements comes on to tell us of his long-time love for the band The Mountain Goats! We go over their original lo-fi stuff, the later highly produced stuff, the way that the right band can teach you what you're already feeling and the nerve-wracking moment you meet your heroes. Also, Will talks about Rose Wilder Lane (the Karl Rove to Laura Ingalls Wilder's George Bush!) and Anthony wonders about the moments when you feel that you are becoming a cliche (cut to Anthony grilling a burger wearing cargo shorts and his buttoned-up shirt).