[prev in list] [next in list] [ prev in thread ] [next in thread] List: koffice-devel Subject: KOffice split From: Cyrille Berger Skott <cberger () cberger ! net> Date: 2010-10-23 9:16:45 Message-ID: 201010231116.46058.cberger () cberger ! net [Download RAW message or body] [Attachment #2 (multipart/alternative)] Dear fellow members of the community, As you might be aware, after months of discussions, it has been concluded that the best solution is to split the community. However, the split is going to happen at application level. The maintainer of each application will be asked to consult his fellow developers to decide in which group, A or B, the application will lived. The other group is free to fork the application under a different name. It is also possible for the developers to change the application name and ask that the current name is not used by any of the group. This can be used as an opportunity for a fresh start. Currently, to the best of my knowledge the groups are composed of the following applications: Group A: KWord Group B: KPresenter, Krita, Karbon, Kexi Since the license give the right for a fork, I can already mention that Group B will come with a fork of KWord, under a name that has yet to be decided. Group A is free to fork any application of Group B under a different name. Maintainers have until Sunday October 31th to decide with which group to go. Applications that have not choosen a group will have to be renamed by each group. The KDE e.V. board will be asked to decide what happen to the KOffice name, the KOffice website, the KOffice mailing list, KOffice.org, KOffice wiki and the KOffice bugzilla product. The recommendation from members of the CWG is to retire the name KOffice altogether, which will allow both side to start on a fresh start and leave the past behind. Then the application maintainers and developers of each group will have one week to find a new name for their suite, and move to another place in the KDE subversion tree and to rename or remove the applications that are in the other group. In the meantime, I am suspending the KOffice release process, meaning that I will release Beta 3, but that the date for the following release is undefined. The reason is that I do not feel confident that the splitting will happen in time before the RC1, and I do not think it is a good idea to ship a RC release that will get different applications than the final release. If the splitting takes more time, I will proceed with one more beta. I also advise each group to ensure that they have a release coordinator. I will urge readers of this letter to: 1) refrain discussion around the splitting outside the mailing list, or to do so in private conversation 2) acknowledge, that at this point there is no sense in trying to place the blame anywhere, we just have to accept the fact 3) remain civilised and polite in this difficult moment -- Cyrille Berger Skott [Attachment #5 (text/html)] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" \ "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"> <html><head><meta name="qrichtext" \ content="1" /><style type="text/css"> p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } </style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans Mono'; font-size:9pt; \ font-weight:400; font-style:normal;"> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \ margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \ -qt-user-state:0;">Dear fellow members of the community,</p> <p \ style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \ margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \ style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \ -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">As you might be aware, after \ months of discussions, it has been concluded that the best solution is to split the \ community.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \ margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \ -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \ margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \ -qt-user-state:0;">However, the split is going to happen at application level. The \ maintainer of each application will be asked to consult his fellow developers to \ decide in which group, A or B, the application will lived. The other group is free to \ fork the application under a different name. It is also possible for the developers \ to change the application name and ask that the current name is not used by any of \ the group. This can be used as an opportunity for a fresh start.</p> <p \ style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \ margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \ style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \ -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Currently, to the best of my \ knowledge the groups are composed of the following applications:</p> <p \ style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \ margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \ style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \ -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Group A: KWord</p> <p style=" \ margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \ -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Group B: KPresenter, Krita, \ Karbon, Kexi</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \ margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \ text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \ margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \ text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Since the license give the right for a fork, I \ can already mention that Group B will come with a fork of KWord, under a name that \ has yet to be decided. Group A is free to fork any application of Group B under a \ different name.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \ margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \ text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \ margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \ text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Maintainers have until Sunday October 31th to \ decide with which group to go. Applications that have not choosen a group will have \ to be renamed by each group.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \ margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \ text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \ margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \ text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">The KDE e.V. board will be asked to decide what \ happen to the KOffice name, the KOffice website, the KOffice mailing list, \ KOffice.org, KOffice wiki and the KOffice bugzilla product. The recommendation from \ members of the CWG is to retire the name KOffice altogether, which will allow both \ side to start on a fresh start and leave the past behind. Then the application \ maintainers and developers of each group will have one week to find a new name for \ their suite, and move to another place in the KDE subversion tree and to rename or \ remove the applications that are in the other group.</p> <p \ style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \ margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \ style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \ -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">In the meantime, I am \ suspending the KOffice release process, meaning that I will release Beta 3, but that \ the date for the following release is undefined. The reason is that I do not feel \ confident that the splitting will happen in time before the RC1, and I do not think \ it is a good idea to ship a RC release that will get different applications than the \ final release. If the splitting takes more time, I will proceed with one more beta. I \ also advise each group to ensure that they have a release coordinator.</p> <p \ style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \ margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \ style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \ -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I will urge readers of this \ letter to:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \ margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">1) refrain \ discussion around the splitting outside the mailing list, or to do so in private \ conversation</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \ margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">2) \ acknowledge, that at this point there is no sense in trying to place the blame \ anywhere, we just have to accept the fact</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \ margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \ text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">3) remain civilised and polite in this difficult \ moment</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \ margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \ -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \ margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \ -qt-user-state:0;">-- </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \ margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \ -qt-user-state:0;">Cyrille Berger Skott</p></body></html> _______________________________________________ koffice-devel mailing list koffice-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/koffice-devel [prev in list] [next in list] [ prev in thread ] [next in thread]