Examples of pencing George Stephanopoulos : "Yes or no: If a florist in Indiana refuses to serve a gay couple at their wedding, is that legal now in Indiana?" Mike Pence : "George, this is where this debate has gone.""Is that true or not?""George, look, the issue here is that, y'know...""Yes or no: should it be legal to discriminate against gays and lesbians?""George, you're following the mantra of the last week online, and you're trying to make the issue about something else."