EthanAhn Profile Joined July 2011 Korea (South) 9 Posts Last Edited: 2014-05-27 10:46:33 #1



The violation occurred at a tier 2 match for KDL at Nexon Arena on the 25th. The game had to be restarted on the steam client because of server instability. The game was stopped for about 10 minutes or so. They made an agreement to keep the same heroes and lanes when the game was restarted. However, they violated that agreement and changed their strategy in order to win.



According to the rule book for KDL season, under section 3 article 6, when teams choose to re-game they have to restart the game under the same conditions as before. MVP violated these conditions but the referees and officials didn’t realize this until after the match was over. Nexon and the tournament officials then decided to take disciplinary action. They also decided to take future steps to strengthen the education of players and officials.





KeSPA released the following statements about this issue.



1) because of MVP’s unsportsmanlike conduct for breaking the rule in section 6 article 4 they will forfeit their last match, lose their points that they received for that win, and have to pay back the prize money that they won for that competition.



2) The official who was in charge of the match received a warning, and will not be paid for one month.



3) In order to prevent this from happening again in the future they will be educated about officiating and have to take a test to qualify to be an official at the start of every new season.



4) The current system of educating players every six months will be strengthened.

On May 27th, KeSPA ruled that MVP violated KeSPA regulations during its rematch. MVP was forced to forfeit the match (thus giving up their winnings from the game), and received an official warning from KeSPA.The violation occurred at a tier 2 match for KDL at Nexon Arena on the 25th. The game had to be restarted on the steam client because of server instability. The game was stopped for about 10 minutes or so. They made an agreement to keep the same heroes and lanes when the game was restarted. However, they violated that agreement and changed their strategy in order to win.According to the rule book for KDL season, under section 3 article 6, when teams choose to re-game they have to restart the game under the same conditions as before. MVP violated these conditions but the referees and officials didn’t realize this until after the match was over. Nexon and the tournament officials then decided to take disciplinary action. They also decided to take future steps to strengthen the education of players and officials.1) because of MVP’s unsportsmanlike conduct for breaking the rule in section 6 article 4 they will forfeit their last match, lose their points that they received for that win, and have to pay back the prize money that they won for that competition.2) The official who was in charge of the match received a warning, and will not be paid for one month.3) In order to prevent this from happening again in the future they will be educated about officiating and have to take a test to qualify to be an official at the start of every new season.4) The current system of educating players every six months will be strengthened. Global Esports Management Manager

opterown Profile Joined August 2011 Australia 12230 Posts #2 wow, that's some strong punishment Moderator Retired LR Bonjwa

rabidch Profile Joined January 2010 United States 9095 Posts #3 On May 27 2014 19:01 opterown wrote:

wow, that's some strong punishment

considering that kespa has a history, and the payout that the teams get for playing in KDL, its not surprising. considering that kespa has a history, and the payout that the teams get for playing in KDL, its not surprising. Staff Only a true king can play the King.

Mithhaike Profile Joined August 2010 Singapore 1174 Posts #4 So what was changed? The heroes or the lanes? The lanes would be a debatable issue as they can just start in the same lanes, then pretend to rotate and it wouldn't be an issue.



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opterown Profile Joined August 2011 Australia 12230 Posts #5 i think starting item build was different Moderator Retired LR Bonjwa

icystorage Profile Joined November 2008 Jollibee 11316 Posts Last Edited: 2014-05-27 10:11:55 #6

any more detailed info on what the violations specifically were? poor official tho





different starting items? damn. laying down the hamma is there a link to a translated rule book?any more detailed info on what the violations specifically were? poor official thodifferent starting items? damn. laying down the hamma Staff Are you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!

zergtat Profile Joined March 2011 Hong Kong 285 Posts #7 Strengthen the sportsmanship for players are a very good steps, but in what way will Kespa do so...... Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt

ahswtini Profile Joined June 2008 Northern Ireland 16336 Posts #8 I didn't know the Hot6ix team were still active "As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse

sCuMBaG Profile Joined August 2006 United Kingdom 428 Posts #9 did they pick a different lineup?

they should know better than to do that. Kind of their own fault.

ZachFreeman Profile Joined November 2010 Australia 100 Posts #10 kespa strikes again GIVE ME COMMAND

Count9 Profile Joined May 2009 China 4934 Posts #11 ehhh shouldn't matter. Top 4 get to bracket and 2 teams in that tier look absolutely terrible.

Liquid`Nazgul Profile Joined September 2002 258 Posts Last Edited: 2014-05-27 10:49:33 #12 I would really like to see a description of exactly what they did in the original game and what they did differently in the rematch. Hopefully someone can write that up. It's so hard to say anything about the ruling without knowing those details. Administrator

ReignSupreme. Profile Joined September 2012 Australia 1853 Posts Last Edited: 2014-05-27 10:54:17 #13 On May 27 2014 19:19 ahswtini wrote:

I didn't know the Hot6ix team were still active



They're in Tier 2 of the KDL, and recently picked up xMusiCa (from N9/Australian aL). They're in Tier 2 of the KDL, and recently picked up xMusiCa (from N9/Australian aL).

Mithhaike Profile Joined August 2010 Singapore 1174 Posts #14 On May 27 2014 19:48 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

I would really like to see a description of exactly what they did in the original game and what they did differently in the rematch. Hopefully someone can write that up. It's so hard to say anything about the ruling without knowing those details.

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Dubzex Profile Joined October 2010 United States 2505 Posts #15 I think it was an item build change as well. Eu players have been doing this for ages after they get regames. "DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook

teapoted Profile Joined August 2012 United Kingdom 13122 Posts #16 If the official doesn't know the rules it looks really bad to punish teams, because it generally means the rules aren't very clear.



Beyond that, the rule really has no place in Dota. Drawing a line at keeping the same draft is very logical, drafts are time consuming and a draft isn't difficult to replicate. Anything after that point becomes very grey.



Like what does 'same lanes' even mean? Can you go back to where you started last time, and then just rotate? What if you go same lanes, but instead start the game by roaming the enemy jungle? What if you get the first rune that makes you rotate somewhere? Who knows, it's Dota, shit happens.



What does 'starting item build' even mean? What if someone has saved gold for a bottle, does that count? Does that mean he's not allowed to buy anything until he can get the bottle?



It's very grey, and rules shouldn't be built in the grey area unless they are necessary. And that rule, isn't necessary. Once you Goblak...

megacrack Profile Joined October 2011 Australia 54 Posts #17 oh i thought this was phoneix for a sec wondering why they were in tier 2 lol

Jehct Profile Joined July 2010 New Zealand 3569 Posts Last Edited: 2014-05-27 11:18:58 #18 Changing the result of a completed game & forcing a forfeit in an unrelated game will really do wonders for the korean amateur scene. I hope MVP at least did a level one rosh in the regame or something crazy. I can't imagine anything that would deserve such a punishment, least of all something an admin wouldn't notice.



Does anyone know what the group standings looked like before & after? If the ruling affects teams which weren't involved it really would be absurd. "You seem to think about this game a lot"

Slovpeis Profile Joined September 2010 Norway 23 Posts #19 wow, I know Kespa is known for beeing strict (at least in the SC2 scene), but damn thats (if entirely true) something i can respect.



If Hot6 repicked in a remake, thats just a dick move. Even worse is that a referee didnt notice/help it.



Not sure on how remakes can be improved, (didnt valve say theyd make a continue-from-replay type of fuction like sc2) but if people start out in their lanes at game start, then i think its free from that point on. Viking blood runs throught my veins!

kaleidoscope Profile Joined December 2008 Singapore 304 Posts #20 wow that's a harsh punishment..

no idea if they really did know or didnt know about the same-laning rule.. 대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..

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