With enemies like these, who needs friends? --Evolved Rationalist on creationists.



The closet YECs over at Uncommonly Dense are pissing in their pants over this article in Nature: A religious group has had its application to offer Master of Science degrees rejected by Texas authorities. The Institute for Creation Research— which backs a literal interpretation of the Bible, including the creation of Earth in six days — was seeking a certificate to grant online degrees in science education in Texas (see Nature 451, 1030; 2008). But the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board voted unanimously last week not to grant the institute’s request, following the recommendation of Raymund Paredes, the state’s commissioner of higher education. Okay, so far so good. The Institute for Certified Retards (ICR) is a young-earth religious Babble-thumping ministry who tries to push unscientific, discredited bullshit on the public, and their application to infect the education system with their lies was rightfully rejected. What the IDiotic goon over at UD said next made me almost bash my head on the desk in frustration: Religious belief is not science? Does Paredes feel that “religious” people can’t teach adequate science? He’s right, “religious belief is not science,” but should creationists be barred from teaching/offering degrees because of their beliefs? EXPELLED! Talk about missing the point completely. Now, IDiot, you got it right when you admitted that religious belief is not science. What you don't seem to get is that nobody, not even those 'evil Darwinists' you goons keep raving about think that religious people can't teach science. Where the fuck did you even get that idea? The ICR was not barred from offering degrees because they were affiliated with Christianity. They were not expelled. They were flunked because their degrees did not meet the requirements of the board. Again, they wanted to teach bullshit and offer degrees in bullshit, but their bullshit is not science and does not meet the requirements of the education board, so their bullshit was flunked out of the scientific arena. Is that really so hard to understand?



What happened to the ICR was exactly what would have happened if the Flat Earth Society started offering degrees in flat-earthism, or Scientologists started offering degrees in Xenu-science. 'Creation science' or 'intelligent design' or whatever the fuck they want to call it this time is not science and does not belong in science classrooms.



No matter how much the IDiots choose to lie about this issue, the simple fact is that nobody was barred from teaching science because of their religion. ICR was not allowed to offer degrees not because their members were Christians, but because they were teaching bullshit. We don't see devout religious people like Kenneth Miller getting expelled from their positions, do we?



If you think that episode of IDiotic failure is bad enough, the comments bring out the closet YEC IDiots who fit comfortably under the IDiotic 'big tent'. Scroll through the comments, and you will see blatant fundie Babble-thumping, god worshipping, YEC arguments and a truckload of massive fail.



If you want to be reminded yet again about why ID should not be taught in science classrooms, take a look at this comment by Salvador Cordova:

I personally hope the YEC enterprise succeeds. But there are some days the problems for the hypothesis seem insurmountable. I have tried to persist. I hope God will help with evidential discoveries, especially in cosmology and plausible mechanisms for accelerated decay… Wow. Just wow. That's IDiot science for you, folks. He admits that there are terrible problems with YEC, but he is trudging along because of his literal belief in the Bible and hopes and prays that god will help find evidence for YEC. After failing to get any evidence for his YEC idiocy, all he can do now is to babble for his imaginary sky daddy to miraculously make it all fall into place. If the IDiots had their way, scientists would be praying instead of making medical discoveries and we would hurtle back to the Dark Ages and .....



*shudder*



This is why ID is not science, was not science, and never will be science.

