People need to take a step back and look at this objectively.



The hype was huge and alot of people bought into this to much and its causing bias now that the wide variety of numbers are out.



What we are getting is a chip that in productivity/content creation applications is pretty much equal to the 8 core intel chip that costs twice as much, so for productivity/content creation AMD has a 2/1 price/performance advantage, this is huge. The fact that so many are completely disregarding AMDs 2/1 price/perf advantage just shows who the real fanboys are. Gaming is not the only thing done with PC's, its probably not even the most used application for PC's by a huge margin.



And speaking of gaming there is obviously bios/OS issues, as it seem the Asus board and the MSI board do not do nearly as well as the gigabyte board, this is made worse by AMD distributing the Asus and MSI boards with the CPU's for reviews, AMD really screwed that up, thats on them for providing buggy mobo's for reviews. This will be sorted out in time with bios and os updates, as well as game code modified for the new CPU. This will take time but it will work itself out, also this only effects people running 1080p on lower settings, if you run ultra or higher resolution then zen performs the same as every other CPU, and from what i can tell does so with better frametimes making for a much smoother gaming experience. And really who is buying a $500 CPU to run 1080p on low anyways, my 6 year old GTX 460 i had before my RX 480 could run 1080p on low so if you are trying to run a 5-7 year old GPU with zen and then complaining of low gaming performance i dunno what to tell you other than bring your GPU into this century. This just shows how most review sites are seriously biased as well, only a few games reviewed and at 1080p low setting is a complete disgrace to reviewers everywhere and the sites doing this should be ashamed of themselves. Its actually hard to find 1440p and 4k results which is just sad in todays world, so much bias even in reviewers. Seriously who is spending $500 on a HEDT CPU to game at 1080p low setting, its just unreal how some people go so far out of their way to confirm there bias.



And for the people complaining about the bugs this happens with every new CPU arch thats ever been released, intel has even recalled CPU's before and NEVER fixed them, the 1.1ghz P3's if i recall correctly never got fixed after the recall, but of course when AMD has a few bugs it its the end of the world....... There were bios issues with x99, and if i recall correctly mobo issues with SB. This is NORMAL for new releases. this is why you dont jump on new tech thats completely new arch on the first day unless you are ok with being the beta tester. Expecting it to work right at 100% performance out of the box for something as new and different as this is extremely naive. This is why alot of people are waiting this growing pains out and letting the dust settle.



Bottom line is if all you do is gaming them zen is probably not for you, buy a i5 or i7 KL and call it a day. If however you actually use your PC as a PC not just as a gaming console/platform then zen offers twice the performance for the price of intel, even more than that taking into consideration mobo prices and quad channel ram needed for intel HEDT.



Since i use my PC for photo work and video compression/editing as well as gaming i will be upgrading to zen. I may also replace a few physical home servers with VM's depending on how well zen does with VM's. But not for months until these bugs are worked out, and i can decide which SKU to get to OC and play with, likely the 1700 going by initial results.



Try not to get so emotional guys, stay calm, look at a wide variety of reviews, and do what works best for your given situation. Probably best to wait for the bug fixes though.