When we last checked in with Gary Cohn, he was basically sprinting barefoot across the North Lawn of the White House, throwing his belongings over the fence and scrambling to the other side before he could lose his nerve to bust out of the joint. After a year of indignities that included working for “an idiot surrounded by clowns” who he wouldn’t have deemed smart enough to fetch his lunch at Goldman Sachs, his boss’s robust defense of Nazis, losing a job that was all but his for having the audacity to speak out against said boss’s defense of said Nazis, and being forced to humiliate himself in service to the administration’s tax plan, the National Economic Council director finally reached his breaking point when Donald Trump announced his intention to levy tariffs on aluminum and steel imports, despite Cohn begging him to reconsider. Though it struck some as a strange place to draw a line, rather than say, at describing white nationalists in glowing terms, most people were relieved to see the former Goldman president finally shake off his case of Stockholm syndrome and break free, minus the utter terror at the idea of the Z-Team left in his place. After months of laying low and, we assume, intense therapy to deal with the subsequent P.T.S.D., on Tuesday, Cohn sat down with CNBC to chat about life post-Trump administration, which apparently entails weighing a number of lucrative options for the future, enjoying the chance to speak freely about the fakakta policies of Team Trump, and getting down on his knees every day and thanking god he was able to make a break for it.

“I feel freer, I feel more rested, I feel happier,” Cohn told Bob Pisani, sounding like a guy who escaped some Sea Org–esque organization that keeps people locked in a basement. Finally free to speak on the record about the president’s moronic tariffs plan, Cohn made sure his position was completely unambiguous: “No one wins in a trade war. . . . I am anti-tariff. . . . If we artificially raise the price of goods because of tariffs we, are hurting the service economy.

“We live in an economically interconnected world; we live in a world of allies, ally-nations; we have treaties and agreements where we defend each other,” he added, in an apparent reference to Trump’s America-First-everyone-else-last policies in general, and his decision to pull out of the Iran deal in particular. “We work together as allies in all of the major spheres that make the world a better place.”

As is to be expected, Cohn hasn’t completely absorbed the fact that he’s escaped the horrors of the White House, at times referring to the administration as “we” (“We” would like to go back and make the personal tax cuts permanent, etc). But looking to a future that doesn’t involve “a constant state of shock and horror,” Cohn said that he’s weighing a “variety of opportunities,” and is most inclined to “get involved in younger companies,” like an Uber, Tesla, or Dropbox. (He also put it out there that he could “do nothing,” in case it wasn’t clear that before moving to D.C., he made, in Wall Street parlance, a f--k-ton of money.) In addition, Cohn mentioned that he has “an idea for a company” that his lawyers are looking into. It sounds like some kind of blockchain play (“It would be an interesting concept [using] the knowledge I know from the banking world, but in a digitized world”), though obviously there are a lot of people who could benefit from some kind of nonprofit support group for ex-Trump administration survivors. At the very least, we’re hoping he opens a CafePress account to get this printed on a couple (hundred) thousand T-shirts:

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