newswire article coverage united states media criticism | police / legal | political theory ex-Sen. DeCamp video/writes of FEDERAL OCCULT PEDOPHILIC DRUG/PORN RITUAL MURDERING ELITE author: repost AJ: One more point, Senator John Decamp, because I've actually seen the Discovery channel documentary that never aired [Conspiracy of Silence]--and we actually played it here locally in Austin. They found hundreds of video tapes in King's office. The police saw it and freaked out, hid it and have never released it--and all those other children, people actually got convicted of this stuff because they thought they lied.

JD: Oh, yeah.

AJ: I want people to understand this is what, this all happened folks.

JD: This isn't a fantasy. I ended up winning a million dollars on behalf these kids--of against awful, awful, awful overwhelming odds--...

AJ: People are going to prison for this... Hold on. You were actually just out of the Senate, and you were hired to go whitewash the operation, because you thought "ya know this is ridiculous."

JD: That's what I was hired for.

AJ: Yeah.

JD: But I did the opposite.

...[the kid] he was taken to an area around Sacramento and then where they had the great big tall trees--and then they went in where there is some owl. Some big huge carved owl or something ... .

AJ: When we get back I want to read that.



below, child's view of Bohemian Grove...

video links



FROM NEBRASKA TO IOWA TO CALIFORNIA TO DC,

U.S. POLICE CHIEFS, MEDIA, POLITICIANS ALL IN THE PEDOPHILE RING AND PROTECTING EACH OTHER Bohemian Grove, CA: Human Sacrificed to Owl, "Midsummer sets us free!" mere months into Bush I's Presidency: making himself at home? 1984, teen boy,Grove witness: kidnapped, raped, porn filmed w/boys, snuff filmed IMAGE ABOVE: True Story of Sex, Child Abuse, Murder & Drugs, Covered Up By Authorities, The front page headline of The Washington Times (June 29, 1989), months into Bush I. Seems he was making himself at home.



Websites, Articles, Radio Interviews, and Documentary:



(a) articles and MP3 radio interview with Ex-Senator, attorney, and book author DeCamp, "Interview of Ex-Senator Decamp on Government Child Killings, " by xx (Thursday Oct. 24, 2002), http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/10/1538670_comment.php ;



(b) webcast video: "Conspiracy of Silence," the Franklin cover-up video, by xx (Tuesday March 04, 2003) [RealVideo: stream with RealPlayer] http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence56k.ram, http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence56k.rm, or RM file (33.3 megabytes, [MB]) of same video in a higher res format for downloading: http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence2.wmv.



Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. Researched and documented by a British journalistic team who came to the United States just for the story, it was censored at the last minute.



This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.



Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson.



While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.



(c) article: "Nebraska Inquiry Is Given File on Sex Abuse of Foster Children," By William Robbins, Special to The New York Times, The New York Times; Section 1; Part 1, Page 18, Column 2; National Desk (December 25, 1988, Sunday, Late City Final Edition).



(d) book: The Franklin Coverup: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska, by John W. Decamp. AWT, Inc. 1992. ISBN: 0-9632158-0-9. This book, written by a former state Senator, documents a web of abuses that could easily have been a cover operation for CIA mind control and child-sex entrapment operations. There have been persistent reports of prominent politicians being involved in sex and drug rings of this kind. The potential for blackmail and the position of strength that the managers of such an operation could achieve is staggering.



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The Franklin case is a case is a point. How much evidence has come out? Or the MK-Ultra documents that have been declassified, shown as real, and people ignore it.



Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. But I believe that the media that downplays ritual abuse is feeding into a deep need in the average person to NOT know the reality. In fact, how can a person face the fact of great evil in mankind, unless they have either a strong faith in God, or are faced with insurmountable evidence? We as human beings want to believe the BEST of our race, not the worst, IMHO.



They don't care who prints this stuff, or if they are "exposed" because they are counting on the majority not believing it, having done a pretty good job with a media blitz campaign (seen any articles in Newsweek or Time lately that addresses this other than as a laughable conspiracy theory? Guess who owns Time-Warner?).



I have heard them laughing about this very thing in leadership meetings five years ago, and I doubt their attitude has changed much since then. If people DID believe this, if action could be taken, then I would be very surprised and quite happy." Svali









Here is the text from the interview

by xx Saturday, Oct. 26, 2002 at 7:28 PM



AJ: Senator Decamp, tell us about John Decamp. Tell us how you got into this, you didn't get into this to find all these horrors. You were basically there to disprove it for the [US] Senate, right? Counterpoint - VIET NAM (OPERATION BABYLIFT) - Accusation that John DeCamp's Babylift was a CIA program of kidnapping-for-profit, that at the very least included sloppy mistakes in "rescuing" babies from their own families and not only saving orphans from orphanages - Nobody's perfect, but one must wonder just a little about anyone with any connection to the CIA with its history of drug-running, assassinations and coups d'etat - both foreign and domestic - But then again, there must always be good folks inside every government agency to at least try to keep an eye on it and blow the whistle - or shoot - when needed, at least in theory. Much of the information on that Counterpoint website is innaccurate about the causes of the Vietnam War, in favor of the CIA, so perhaps its allagations about DeCamp are equally innaccurate and in favor of the drugrunners and mass-murderers at the CIA and in the White House, for both political parties. Apparently, CIA director and presidential candidate George "Poppy/Opium/Heroin" Bush is named in this book as attempting to cover up the Franklin arrests.



JD: I was. I had just gotten out of the [state] Senate a year or so before when this started breaking. Let me give the story real quick. In North Omaha, Nebraska there was a credit union, a federal credit union and that was run by a man named Larry King. Larry King was and you may remember and I'm sure you'll hear about him again. This is not the Larry King on T.V. but another one. He was officially listed in the NY Times as you mentioned then and a number of other states in mostly national publications. He was officially listed as the, I quote, "Fastest-rising black star in the Republican party. From you who may be listening maybe you attended the 1984 or 1988 Republican conventions. One in Texas, and another one--I remember I was there for the one in New Orleans, then...



AJ: You're a Republican. Now let's get that out there.



JD: I guess.



AJ: I'm the same way.



JD: It's kinda like, but anyway--Larry King opened both those national conventions, as some of you may remember. In fact, back in old (20's ville) they always show the convention being open. Larry opened both of them by singing the National Anthem. He's a great singer. A great whatever you call it? Baratone or alto or whatever those strange things are, but anyway...



AJ: Vocalist.



JD: I knew it was one of those but anyway--Larry is the man singing there at the opening convention and on election day, 1988, for George Bush, when George Bush was inaugurated. That would have been when George Bush was elected. Anyway, the Fed's raided this [high level Republican] guy's little credit union in North Omaha. It was suppose to be serving to minority community, specifically the black community and they shut her down. They said there was a lot of missing money. Stories started floating out as always happens when some incident like that occurs, and some of the stories--there is missing money that was used for this and that--but some of those stories were even strange. The stories were coming from kids, all over. Young kids--16, 14, 13--kids telling about how they had been on Larry's private jet to this party or that party. Or that they had been at the Republican National Convention here, or they had been at this political event in Washington, and the stories had to with that they were there and how they were used as drug couriers--13, 14-year old kids--back then, going through the airport. . .[they] could get through without anyone asking twice about anything. They pack the kids full of Cocaine or whatever in little backpacks they'd carry on their bodies, between their legs, etc, etc. Young boys, young girls--and these kids were telling much stranger tales that seemed bizarre at the time. Stories like they had had sex with this or that famous politician or businessman....and I was the one who stood up and said, this has got to be the most hilarious, ridiculous story I've ever heard. First of all, I knew Larry King. What the heck! I was head of banking at the time he was when he was doing his banking stuff, [I was head of] the senate banking committee here in Nebraska. It's absurd. All the stories started (prompting) more and more, and I said something else, and I said, look if I believe even one of these crazy stories I'd be one of the first one's to stand up and demand that something be done. I got a letter from a kid named Paul Bonacci who told me that these are not just fake tales.



AJ: Now later, you took his diary that went back, like 5 years, and ink experts and forensics experts looked at it, and he had all this stuff written down.



JD: That was the strange thing about this kid. I wish I had been able to do that throughout life, but apparently when he was a little boy--he was about 18 when I had meet him in jail, 17 or 18--and as a young kid his uncle or grandfather or somebody had taught him religiously to keep a diary where you mark everything down, everyday. Well, he did it in detail. So when I went and visited with him, and he told me these strange tales. And then you had to hear the psychiatric medical institutions in the state university say "Hey, this kid, he ain't crazy. He's a multiple personality. He's probably telling the truth because multiples don't need to lie. They just switch personality. Anyway, to make a long, long bizarre story short. I found out that he was in jail because he had been in one of those intimately involved in all this--and he had to be shut up real quick to conclude it. Now, at the time I didn't realize that, so they locked him up and charged him with touching another boy on the outside of his pants, his cousin or something.



AJ: Senator, talk right into your telephone please.



JD: Anyway, they have him there in jail, and I finally agreed to represent him. And that led to a long, long tale that's got me deeply involved in researching and investigating the collapse of the credit union and the personalities involved. Ultimately, on the advice of my best friend--closest friend, godfather, whatever--eventually writing a book because he told me that what I should probably do to protect myself--and that man was a man named Bill Colby, of the time that I started writing the next book. Bill, as you know was head of the CIA and ended up floating dead in a pond somewhere.



But I won't get into that right now. Anyway, I wrote the book and as I got at the very beginning of this story and working on it, one of the things I did do was, as I say, obtain the diary of this young boy to see just what he did say and then I had them checked.



AJ: And it wasn't just that. I mean they've got...



JD: Forensic experts--and the forensics were called in because somebody said he could have just made this all up later. He could have made this up later, and I wanted to make sure that this wasn't done. So we had forensic examiners who said that this ink was done at a certain time and this could of only been done that long ago--and on and on. Anyway--to get to the heart of the discussion...



AJ: One more point, Senator John Decamp, because I've actually seen the Discovery channel documentary that never aired--and we actually played it here locally in Austin, I'll send you a copy of it--they found hundreds of video tapes in King's office. The police saw it and freaked out, hid it, and they have never released it--and for all those other children, people actually got convicted of this stuff [when they claimed they were lying and sent them to jail, when the police actually found the video tape proof, though have hidden the evidence.]



JD: Oh, yeah.



AJ: I want people to understand--this is what, this all happened folks.



JD: This isn't a fantasy. I ended up winning a million dollars on behalf of these kids--against awful, awful, awful overwhelming odds--including the Omaha World Herald newspaper that attacked me so viciously because one of the key individuals I got locked up in prison was was one of their editors.. There's another individual--but anyway...



AJ: People are going to prison for this...



JD: He just got released from prison here about what 8 or 10 months ago.



AJ: Hold on. You were actually just out of the Senate and you were hired to go whitewash the operation because you thought these kids stories were ridiculous.



JD: That's what I was hired for.



AJ: Yeah.



JD: But I did the opposite.



AJ: Well I call you an impeccable witness. Go ahead.



JD: Anyway so yeah I won the million dollar judgment for the kids in federal court finally--and it wasn't easy--and I want to talk about that a little because some of the stuff coming out about that pedophilia in the Catholic church now were things were written in my book way back then. But anyway--to get to the heart of the matter, that you called about as I understand it. I simply took the diaries of the kid Paul Bonacci, and I printed a good portion of them in my book--and one of them--and one of the areas described a trip in 1984. I could even read part of it here if you want. In fact, on this trip he was taken to an area around Sacramento, and then, where they had the great big tall trees, and then they went in where there is some owl. Some big huge carved owl or something ... .



AJ: When we get back I want to read that.



JD: O.K.



AJ: Well please continue. Go ahead.



JD: Anyway, so there was what he claimed. I wasn't there so I don't know so well. That's the closest I've been to Bohemian Grove. Paul took me out, and showed me where it was--and indeed there is a place there. And I didn't know there was a place called Bohemian Grove. I didn't write Bohemian Grove in the book because I didn't know what it was. I just took his diary. Anyway, it clearly is where he was taken, and he was taken out there for a ceremony--in which they committed some pretty horrible things on another boy and three boys; and they filmed it and I just took his word and the names he wrote there right in the book. And by the way just to answer your next question. Yes, I put names in the book, dates and everything that I could just as they were. Why? Because I figured: blow it out all straight; and a number of threatening calls came to me after the first edition came out. "This is the most liablest, slanderest thing we've ever heard." I said fine. I think I've done enough to prove it, and I'm satisfied. If somebody feels that way. I said "if somebody said these things about me, I'd sue them for liableist slander."



AJ: And here you are 10 years later, and you're winning lawsuits. [based on that information]



JD: Well, there was indeed one libel slander lawsuit as a result of the book. But, that was one I filed against some group called Great Atlantics Telecast Company--some TV network on the east coast--when they had one of the characters in the book, who also happened to be running for president at the time, go around saying, "Oh, don't believe this, and don't believe this, is a lie" and they reported him, and I sued him. Well it ended up they ended up paying me off, backing down and reaching a settlement.



AJ: Stay right there, Senator. This is powerful info. It's all coming up.



JD: That's right. Right here in Austin, Texas. Every month they're grabbing the equivalent of 5 first grade classrooms of child protective services. No rights, no nothing. Parents, it's just a total takeover and the very people doing this here locally are involved in their own forms of wickedness which is a whole another show. This stuff is proliflic. It is a cult of evil and it's more wide spread than you can probably can imagine. Senator Decamp, we were talking during the break and you made the point how this is this new world . What do you mean by this new world?



JD: Well, you just talked about some of it. You just talked about some of it. About 5 , 6 years ago on behalf of a family here that was just totally destroyed by both protective services. I filled a class action suit against the entire system and finally the plantiff , myself, I just couldn't keep it up. They had unlimited lawyers on the other side but I did bring out an awful, awful lot of things that are sure proof enough since then from the way they take kids. The way , your rights the parents are pretty well destroyed. But I'm not going into that now we can talk about that another day.



AJ: It's just such a horror.



JD: A whole new world we live in from I guess what I thought I grew up in here long, long time ago admittedly. I keep I said to you it sure is a new world order. I think or something like that and then I realized that it was a worn out phrase that I guess some people are really trying to implement. But anyway...



AJ: Continuing you actually have a passages in your book out of the diary ...



JD: Well, I have a , I have right here the diary. Do you want me to read a little? Understand that I didn't know that the thing was called Bohemian Grove back then, nor did the kid Paul when he was writing about it. All he knew was he was taken to this place. Let me just read it. It'll take three minutes. Is that o.k.?



AJ: Go ahead.



JD: "I went in January"--now this is Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word for word, from his diary.



"I went in January of '84 on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of 84' sometime, I was (?) and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on (YNR) airlines--by the way it's a private airline or private charter deal--and Cam airlines, another charter deal normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King--only went where he told me to go. In or on July 26th [by the way, Bohemian Grove is two weeks every summer], I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out in a private plane from (Eplick) airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas, a boy who was about 12 or 13. Then we flew to Vegas--to a desert strip--and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something. Then flew on to to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo in Sacramento and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We meaning, Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees. It took about an hour to get there. There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these tarzan things to put around us and stuff like that. They told me to, I won't use the word, blank the boy and stuff. In other words, have sex with. At first, I said 'No' and they held a gun to my genitals I'll use the word and said 'do it or else lose them' or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex with him and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff, and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him. We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boys blank and stuff--and they filmed it. We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour, when a man came in and kicked us and stuff--and in the genitals. And he picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about, I'm not sure how to say, the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off. The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boys blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing. They then forced me to blank the kid. It's pretty crude. They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boys lips. Anyway, a few other things. Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't. After that, the men grabbed Nicholas and dragged him off screaming. They put me up against a tree--and put a gun to my head--but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere--and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy. Everything--including when the men put the boy in the trunk--was filmed. The men took me with them, and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said, 'the man with the hood would take care of the body' for them. I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later, then men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower, since we'd had only been hosed off at some guys house. We took a shower together and were told to put on the tarzan things and after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to put on shorts, socks and a shirt and shoes and were driven to a house where the men were at some others. They had the film [that was described above] and they played it. As the men watched it they passed Nicholas and I around as if we were toys ... .



AJ: Stay right there. This is what the New World Order wants to do to your kids.



[station break]



AJ: I want to go back into the investigation. That's one of the clearest pieces of evidence. Now, tell us how they tried to stop it? How one of the investigators was obviously killed. Do you think this is a good place to continue?



JD: That's when I brought Colby in. Bill Colby was like, I say a very close friend, when the (?) of the investigation. The one that the senate had hired to do the investigation called from Chicago. He had gone there on a trip to pick up a bunch of material. It was a remarkable coincidental thing was one of the central central characters of the book was named Robert (Watts) and had been the police chief of Omaha at the time of these events that are written about in the book (... ... ?) I'm not suggesting anything I'm just saying it's some of the most remarkable coincidences in the world and since that time I've learned from the sheriff's office who was first on the scene (... ... ?) How they had FBI move--or Federal officials they claimed--and took all the stuff, and told them instead that he had seized no pictures and stuff that they found laying around, and they told the sheriff's deputy, who was there, "You've not been here. You've not seen anything. If you talk you're in trouble. Compromising federal investigation is a ... ". Anyway Gary Caradori and his friend were both killed in that plane accident and of course he didn't testify--and it was only years later when I was still trying to pursue it in the federal courts on a trial, to prove some things that I learned through a pure fluke of faith. Again, and it's been that way all along: some little strange thing happens and it keeps proving once again, when they say 'this didn't happen or this couldn't have happened' or whatever--some new little thing comes forward that proves it. And in this case it was a call from a police the detective who was head of the patrol.



He claims he was head of the State Patrol in Oregon and he told me that they had just arrested and seized a bunch of material and they found a copy of this book, "The Franklin Cover-up" which we're talking about right now and this person had this in his possession and they saw certain pages underlined . And I said " What's the person's name? ". They said, "It is Russell Nelson." Eventually to make a long, long story short, I got him out of prison and got him up here to testify and bring pictures and tried to see other pictures to confirm the story by the courts. He was a key witness then that ended up in a million dollar judgment.



He was Larry King's private photographer who had been going to the various things--and taking pictures of the comprised politician or whatever with a kid, or with this or that.



AJ: Yeah, the report produced by the BBC people that was aired on Discovery actually showed the police admitting all this. I mean they grabbed all these videos and photo's. It's just like the finders in DC. That outfit, with all the kids.



JD: I know it extremely well. I was a personal (?????????) . and I went there.



AJ: Yeah.



JD: That was another story.



AJ: I can't even mention what was in that warehouse. It's all too profane. This is something just like from the pit of hell.



JD: See, I know people listening right now will think this is la la land, this is make believe these are fruitcakes talking about that this couldn't happen. Particularly, with prominent people. They wouldn't be fiddling with little kids and wouldn't be. Unfortunately, I also believe that. I guess I want to believe that. But I'll guarantee you that bad things have happened out there. They do happen. One of the coincidences that I think is going to rock the people very shortly is one of the centerpieces of this thing was using a lot of kids out of a place called Boys Town. Boys Town of course is one of the most respected institutions in this country, as it should be. It's done more for young boys throughout the last what 75 or 100 years probably than just about any other institution you want to mention. At the same time, corruption can occur. Even the best apples can get rotten by it. In this case, as I identified very clearly in the book, Larry King was operating and getting kids out of Boys Town and using them for sex. Well, of course the Discovery channel--that sent a team in from Britain--spent about half million dollars doing things and I think that was one of the centerpieces of theirs. You've seen that one right?



AJ: Oh yeah. We actually put it on TV.



JD: Anyway, they pretty well ... . The head of Boys Town is now an 87 year old man, a monsignor. Guess who his latest attorney is? He's hired--cause he's getting old and is worried about wanting to get some things told and get some truth out, which might happen about next week--his newest attorney is a young--well he's not young anymore is he?--a man named John Decamp who wrote a book called "The Franklin Cover-up." And if anybody would have a reason to want to attack me, it was him. Instead he is doing the opposite.



AJ: Now repeat that again.



JD: He hired me within the last week or ten days as his private attorney because of some of things you've been reading in the national press, pediphilia of the priests and so on. He's an old man now, and he's 87 or 88.



AJ: And who is he again?



JD: He was the head of Boys Town.



AJ: Oh. O.K. Monsignor...



JD: He also was the only Catholic priest ever appointed as a delegate to the United Nations. He was a special delegate appointed by, I think, two different presidents as a representative to the United Nations on behalf of children.



AJ: And he's going to blow the whistle?



JD: He's going to provide some information that I think will rock some people and will immediately denounce him and (shut him up).



AJ: I hope he's got bodyguards around him right now?



JD: No, he's an old man that will probaly be an outcast once he tells this. So I've said to much on that already probably.



AJ: That's incredible. I tell ya you're all over the place. I remember the case you were trying to expose--(Sheltbecker) Services--and of course you're going after the whole Columbine deal.



JD: Now, I was hired by some of the teacher's family--of one of the teachers that was killed--to represent a group of people. And we have filed a lawsuit because these kids (Harrah & Cleabay?) out there that killed all these people. They were absolute unlimited addicts of a couple of video games that are just training kids to be ...



AJ: Doom was produced, Doom is a military game they admit.



JD: That's correct. That's correct.



AJ: Because they've found in soldiers, in Vietnam especially most people will not fire up close on somebody and through the video games it trains them to disconnect and do it. And this will be our swat teams of the future. And now they've found out that a bunch of swat teams are actually shooting the kids too. So, it's credible. Getting back into the Franklin Cover-up.



(Flip tape)



JD: ...into the death of Garry Caradori and after I did some investigation or whatever. He basically told them you're never going to know the answer. Anyway, so I was sitting with him, and I was talking to him and his wife at the man's place one night there. I said, "I don't know what to do next". I see prosecutors who are afraid to prosecute. I see politicians who shouldn't be there. I see institutions of government who have surrendered respectability because they've been comprised or corrupted or threatened or whatever. I said, "I don't know what to do!" He said, "I'm going to tell you what to do". I said, "Thank goodness!". He said "Get as far away from this thing as you can!" Forget you ever saw us or know it, heard it or anything else. I said, "Wait a minute! You're telling me, the former head of the CIA, particularly during the Vietnam thing and all that nonsense. I said, "You're telling me that I should just walk away from this and pretend it didn't happen?". He said, "John, I love you. I love your kids. I love your family. He says "This is just a little more serious than you think. Let me tell you a story". So then he starts and he says, "Last night I returned from Moscow". I said, "What the blazes is the former head of the CIA doing in Moscow?". He says, "Believe or not we were there to, along with some others who's names you'd recognize, try to make sure that nobody pushes a button and does the wrong thing--cause things are unstable". Now this occurred exactly, this conversation, exactly three weeks before the famous Gorbachev, whatever, the revolution and the fall of, you know what I'm talking about--where they held Gorbachev hostage for awhile. Remember?



AJ: Yeah,



JD: What's his name? Anyway, Yeltsin, that's it. Then exactly two weeks before that, he is saying to me things were unstable then. Anyway, then he says, "You know the night before I was to leave I couldn't sleep. I was thinking about the momentous event that I was participating in". He says, "Frank, that was the night that I couldn't sleep. Instead, just go for a walk. Of course, I knew that was forbidden. Everybody knew who I was and the guards wouldn't let me out. However, they just ignored me and I walked down the whole hotel. The most prestigious hotel right there on Red Square where we were staying". He said, "I walked up to the door on the Kremlin it was two o'clock in the morning, guards watching, nobody paid any attention, nobody cared". He said he walked up right to a statue of Lenin there. Nobody cared. Two/three o'clock in the morning and then he said, "an then it struck me". I said, "What struck you?". He said, "They were dead! It's over! The cold war is over! We won!". Remember, this is three weeks before all this broke loose and the whole thing collapsed. And then I said, "Uh-ha". And then he said something else struck him, and I said "gosh what was that." He says, "That this walk in the middle in of the night in absolute silence--and nobody caring in the middle of Red Square about the former head of the CIA who fought these blank people for forty years. That this was going to be the only victory parade that I and all the cold war warriors would ever have. We wouldn't have a march down Madison Avenue like the soldiers in WWII or whatever." He said there wouldn't be any victory parade and ticker tape just march. He said, "Well Bill that's a real interesting story but for gosh sakes what's my great lesson I'm to learn to here?". He said, "Well I guess I'm trying to tell you is John sometimes there are forces too big and too evil. Even though we know they are there and we know it it absolutely important for us to deal with it the way we would want or should, could. Therefore, you have to turn and walk away. If you want to live to fight another day". It doesn't make sense to me but anyway. Then he says, "These forces are too big and too evil and too powerful. You're going to get killed if you keep playing around! I don't want that!". I said, "You mean there's nothing I can do?". He said, "Well, you have to do something. The safest thing, the best thing you can do for your own safety is write your story. Tell it all is and get ridiculed may not be believed but at least if you tell it there's no reason for them to do you in. They'll just try to ridicule you".



AJ: Yeah, because that'll make them even more powerful. They don't want to make the book a martyr.



JD: Yeap.



AJ: There are so many facets to this. How many children were you able to confirm were involved in this, and ....



JD: I can't confirm a total number. I dealt with, I think, probably 25 or 30 that were really intimately involved.



AJ: A lot of these were children--according to the book, the news articles, the press--were children that didn't even know each other, cross-referencing in the same thing and telling the same story.



JD: Well yes, absolutely. In other words, it wasn't because just one kid said this, and the story of the good guys is that 'well because they make up this terrible hoax it's all a hoax'--somehow perpetrated by these absolutely penniless impoverished children who all got together somehow and told this tale? Get real!



AJ: There were convictions. And you wrote the book. And nobody sued you, because---I mean these children didn't know they were flown to Sacramento and then driving for an hour and that's how long it takes to get to the Grove--and they describe it in great detail, and the stuff that came out earlier. I've been there for their big 'Ta Do'--well, it's not a small crowd but it's a big crowd. (Unintelligible) bring a body in, they burn it, and it screams in pain. And that's just the kind of stuff they do there. When Skull and Bones came out on Fox News last year, slitting the woman's throat, the blood squirts--why isn't there a police investigation? If my neighbors saw me slitting women's throats and worshipping satan which they were doing by the way I'm gonna tell you, in my back yard? wouldn't they call the cops on me? Wouldn't the cops have probable cause, John, for the search of my house?



JD: I sure think so. But then once again everything sounds so unbelievable or something.



AJ: I would expect to see the police ripping out my walls. If I saw my neighbor doing this and I reported it. I would expect a warrant and a search.



JD: Yeah, I know. As I say, the problem is that gap between something outrageous and what the average human being is capable of believing based on their own human experiences.



AJ: Is that the New World Orders trick is that they do everything in plain sight so overtly it's just so arrogant so insane that the average person just can't even process it mentally?



JD: Well, I'm not sure what the plan is or isn't. I guess I'm not smart enough to know. I do know that what I wrote about and what occurred here I absolutely know and believe occurred and is pretty horrible; and that's a part of some larger program or plot, then I'm really worried! I'm scared for us all, so to speak.



AJ: So some of these people are now getting out of prison?



JD: Larry got out, the editor got out, a couple of the others got charged and paid a fine and then got felonies dropped to misdemeanors. For all practical purposes, anybody who was in prison has been redeemed and somehow holy now.



AJ: Folks, if you want to load the phones up we'll let you talk to John Decamp and how to get his powerful book (?) 1-800-259-9231. Be right back.



JD: It's got over 85,000 copies now sold. But anyway:



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Make it $12.00 shipping and handling, it's actually a little more than that but just mention Alex Jones and it's $12.00 shipping and handling and everything.



AJ: It's only $12.00? [includes additional looseleaf information]



JD: Yeah, what the heck.



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Famous Kidnapping Case Implicates

Top Political Figures in Child Prostitution Network



On Sept. 5, 1982, a 12-year-old West Des Moines, Iowa, paperboy named Johnny Gosch disappeared. Although his case made national headlines what his mother learned about Johnny's kidnapping has been kept under wraps by the mainstream media in America. His mother, Noreen Gosch, discovered not only that Johnny was still alive--long after his disappearance--but that he was in the hands of a Nebraska-based nationwide pedophile and child prostitution ring that has been collaborating with high-level "mind control" operations of the CIA.



Mrs. Gosch was the guest on the Aug. 19 broadcast of Radio Free America, a weekly call-in talk forum sponsored by American Free Press.



Although it's been 19 years since your son Johnny was taken from you, you now know your boy is still alive and that's part of the story that you're about to tell.



Yes, I did get to see my son once since he was taken away. After he was kidnapped it was a nightmare trying to get anything organized to help, and the police were not real cooperative here, which I couldn't understand. That forced me to hire private investigators.



Many years after Johnny's kidnapping, we learned that the police chief in West Des Moines was linked to the Franklin situation in Omaha. This was the chief who was the controlling factor in Johnny's case and made all of the decisions about what was done in the investigation. And in Johnny's case, they didn't do anything.



For the first three days, even though we had witnesses who saw the man and talked to the man who approached Johnny on the street, the police chief kept calling Johnny a "runaway." One of the witnesses happened to be a 44-year old attorney who is now a judge in Des Moines.



This was in 1982, long before the scandal surrounding the "Franklin Cover-up" in Omaha involving top-ranking Republican Party figure Lawrence King started coming to light.



That's correct.



There was a small article in the paper. I took it to the police chief and I said, "Could you check this out? These two girls were taken and the article says that the girls were taken to Omaha and the men were caught. They had forced the two girls into a prostitution ring."



When I showed this article to the police chief, he got very upset and he said, "No, I'm not going to check it out, because I don't have a feel for this. There can't be anything to it."



I then went to the FBI and they refused. I went to the Department of Criminal Investigation in Iowa and they refused. So at that point I called a press conference and told the public that this was happening and that the police would not help me. Within two days of the press conference, I received my first death threat and the man said to me, "Stop making waves or you are going to die."



What I believe to this day, and what attorney John DeCamp [who has been investigating the Franklin affair] believes also is that I was actually "knocking on the back door" of the Franklin affair in Omaha by making my public accounting.



It appears, based on what DeCamp and other investigators have uncovered, that Omaha has been the center of this whole child theft ring.



Where is that police chief in West Des Moines now?



After about six months of this behavior on his part, I made a phone call to the members of the city council and I told them that I was going to file a $20 million lawsuit naming the police chief as negligent. They had an emergency meeting of the council in the basement of the police department on that Sunday night and on Monday morning they announced that the police chief was retiring because he was not in good enough health to handle the job anymore.



Two months after he retired--stepped down--he was found shoplifting at the Target store here. He took videotapes and little hooks that you would hang from a ceiling.



I later learned that he was very good friends with Robert Wadman, the police chief from Omaha who was in office at the time that the Franklin affair was going on. Wadman was disgraced, having gotten a young girl, Alicia Owen, pregnant.



It turns out that our Des Moines police chief would go over to Omaha all the time to participate in these parties with Wadman and the others.



Apparently, based on what you've learned, your son was taken for the very reason that he fit a profile that somebody wanted. This came out in court testimony by Paul Bonacci, one of the young victims of the Franklin affair, who was at first charged with perjury and sent to jail for daring to make accusations under oath about the Franklin affair. With De Camp's help, Bonacci has since won a $1 million judgment against Lawrence King and the people who abused him. He's essentially been vindicated.



Paul Bonacci testified in his civil suit that he was one of the people who helped kidnap Johnny. He was the first to sexually molest Johnny. He told all of the gruesome details. The judge asked, "Why did they want Johnny Gosch when they could have their pick of a lot of runaway kids?" Bonacci looked at the judge and told him, "Johnny fit the profile of what they were looking for. They sell kids to pedophiles who want certain kids with certain features."



Bonacci testified that they had followed Johnny on nights when he was coming home from school and had photographed him and those photographs were put in a book and a pedophile picked him out.



This must have been awful for you to learn about. Did you first hear about this in court?



No, I had previously gone to the prison to meet Bonacci when he first confessed. That was a few years before the court case where the judge finally ruled that he was telling the truth. Paul Bonacci waited 10 years to be vindicated. When he first came forward about this, the police said he was nuts and the West Des Moines police department that was in charge of Johnny's case would not even interview him.



Now that Lawrence King is out of prison, where he was being held on financial crimes, Bonacci may be able to get that $1 million in damages from him.



DeCamp has been told that upon getting out of prison, Lawrence King was slated to go to Washington for a job within the Republican Party.



Lawrence King was never charged with anything to do with the abduction and molestation of some 80 children who came forward in the Franklin case with the same story that Paul Bonacci told. Those children were all discredited, but Paul stuck to his story and would not recant. For that they put him in prison and accused him of perjury.



Alicia Owen also stuck to her story. She's the girl that the Omaha police chief got pregnant.



She recently was released from prison but is keeping a very low profile. She's terribly scared since her brother was murdered as a warning to her to keep her mouth shut. She does not do any interviews. Her parents will not do interviews. They live in fear.



The British Broadcasting Company (BBC) did a program, Conspiracy of Silence, about this whole affair and it really nails Boys Town for its role in this.



The film Conspiracy of Silence was due to be aired in the United States on the Discovery Channel in May of 1994 and then just before airtime, it was pulled. Sometime later John DeCamp received a copy in the mail and he made it available to me. The BBC was ordered to destroy all copies.



Yet, a BBC employee, who was so shocked at this story and the censorship, made a copy and got it out to John DeCamp.



It is said that the BBC was paid $500,000 not to air the documentary.



I imagine somebody in the United States did not want this story coming out, since it went all the way to the top in Washington. The video shows Paul Rodriguez, a reporter at The Washington Times, talking about the articles that were all written concerning certain congressmen and the call-boy service that was operating there.



You received a remarkable visit in your home.



There was a knock at my door at about 2:30 a.m. I went to the door and I could see through the peephole that there was a young man outside. I said, "Who's there?" He said, "It's me, mom. It's Johnny." I could see that there was someone with him, but I let them in. I don't know who the other young man was. I asked, but he declined to tell me.



Johnny would have been about 24 years old at this point. What did he tell you?



It was very emotional. I asked if I could call someone to come and help us, thinking that he was home to stay. But Johnny was so terrified. He said, "You don't understand. You can't call anyone. No one can know that I've been here. If you do, my life is in danger and yours might be, too. They will kill me for what I know."



Instead of pushing this issue, I said to myself, "No, I'm going to let him talk and tell me what's happened." So during our hour-and-a-half time that we had together. I learned a lot. I asked him names of people. I asked him how they did their organization. What type of things did they do? What methods did they use to traffic in children?



He was here in 1997, but I kept silent for two years and didn't tell anyone about his visit until 1999 when I was on the witness stand testifying for Paul Bonacci in his civil case. But what I had done in the meantime was to make an appointment with the county attorney. I went in and told him that I had information from an informant. I gave the county attorney the names of the people involved and how the organization worked and asked him to begin an investigation. I did not tell him that the informant was my son.



Did the county attorney investigate?



No, he said that he would not. The only reason he gave was that I would have to somehow convince my informant to turn himself in and be a part of the witness protection program and that they "might" be able to give my informant (Johnny) immunity for any crimes he may have committed during his captivity.



I looked at the county attorney and said, "They 'might' be able to give him immunity? That doesn't work for me." He responded, "Well, you're going to have to turn over the boy." I said, "I don't have the boy." I didn't tell him that it was Johnny, but I did tell him that "the informant" had told me that Johnny was still alive.



I said to the county attorney: "I came here to share information with you as I always have. This way I can never be charged with withholding information. If you choose not to investigate, that's up to you. I will continue my investigation as I always have."



You also had a mysterious visitor from Washington. Are you still in touch with this person?



Nobody has been able to find him. I have had people looking for him for the last 10 years. He knew a tremendous amount and he was part of the CIA. I think he was sent here to do a job, find out what I knew and how I was proceeding on the case. He was also right by my side when I testified in Washington. About three or four months later he vanished.



Do you think he had a connection with former CIA Director William Colby who helped his longtime protegee, John DeCamp, in the Franklin affair?



Yes, I think he did have a connection with Mr. Colby.



He had with him--and this is what convinced me--a complete dossier on every member of my family, even those who were deceased. He had information about their lives that could have never been public.



The key to this whole scandal involving Johnny and the Franklin affair and all of this child kidnapping and molestation is the very scary story of "mind control" experiments conducted by our own government agencies and those of foreign intelligence agencies.



Yes, it is. In my book, I tell the story of Michael Aquino [head of the Satanic cult, the Temple of Set]. You see, when Johnny was taken away, he was taken to a farmhouse and kept there for two weeks. After those two weeks, Johnny was sold for a sum of money. A man they called "the colonel," came and took Johnny to Colorado. Paul Bonacci identified that man as Col. Michael Aquino.



Aquino was involved in "psy-ops" and "mind war" experimentation for the U.S. government. He had a hand in developing mind control.



Unfortunately they began to experiment on men in the services--this is the concept of "The Manchurian Candidate"--one that could be turned into a killing machine and never remember, programmed by key words and phrases. Then they decided to experiment on prisoners in prisons.



Then along came Michael Aquino, who was already a pedophile. He and others thought that it would be financially beneficial to them, somehow, to begin to experiment on children. That's when they began taking children.



Imagine the tremendous power of mind control using pornography and drugs.



According to what Paul Bonacci and others have stated, after they used the techniques they did with Paul (using him during the day and then returning them to their homes), the children wouldn't remember what had happened because of the mind control. Then they decided to take children out of their stable home situations. They now wanted to see if it would work on kids who had stable family lives.



They already knew that it would work with runaways and with kids in controlled situations like Boys Town in Omaha.



That's right. That's when, in the early 1980s, there was a rash of kidnappings of young boys across the country. Many were deemed "runaways." There were only a handful who were taken who actually made the national headlines. Johnny was one of them.



That was in part because you were so persistent.



Two years after Johnny was taken, they came back to this city and took another paperboy named Eugene Martin, who is still missing and never found. But Johnny and Paul Bonacci (and a third witness who is too afraid to come forward) have told me that the same people who took Johnny also took Eugene.



John DeCamp has helped bring the photographer, Rusty Nelson, out into the open. He's the photographer who took the pictures that were part of this pedophile ring's operations.



Nelson was the photographer who took the pictures of Johnny being molested. He was also the photographer they used in Washington for all the parties that Lawrence King had where prominent people were in attendance.



There is some new information coming out.



I was recently advised that there is a prisoner who has some information that points toward the guilty parties. This prisoner had tried with 30 previous letters to get in touch with me, but all his letters were stopped and never got to me. This last letter went a different route. I went to see this prisoner and private investigators and John DeCamp are working with this prisoner.



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articles and MP3 radio interview with Ex-Senator, attorney, and book author DeCamp, "Interview of Ex-Senator Decamp on Government Child Killings, " by xx (Thursday Oct. 24, 2002), http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/10/1538670_comment.php ;



(b) webcast video: "Conspiracy of Silence," the Franklin cover-up video, by xx (Tuesday March 04, 2003) [RealVideo: stream with RealPlayer] http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence56k.ram, http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence56k.rm, or RM file (33.3 megabytes, [MB]) of same video in a higher res format for downloading: http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence2.wmv.



Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. Researched and documented by a British journalistic team who came to the United States just for the story, it was censored at the last minute.



This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.



Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson.



While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved. add a comment on this article add a comment on this article