YouTuber Lilly Singh is currently preparing to launch her very own NBC late-night show, A Little Late with Lilly Singh, in September, so she decided to approach some experts for some handy advice. Hasan Minhaj, host of Netflix’s Patriot Act, is one of the lucky people Singh reached out to for tips. (The other one is Dwayne Johnson.) Minhaj offers her some of his own wisdom (“Try to figure out what it is that you want to say, because everything trickles down from that”) as well as the best late-night advice he received from someone else. Minhaj says this came from his former Daily Show boss Jon Stewart, and it technically wasn’t advice at all. “He would give me no notes. None! He would just be like ‘That’s great.’ He would basically just ask me questions, like ‘What are you interested in?’ or ‘Why does that bug you?’ But he would never give me specific advice,” Minhaj remembers. “And the note of having no note was the best note. You’re gonna be you, Stephen [Colbert] is gonna be Stephen, [John] Oliver is gonna be Oliver — everyone is gonna do their own version of who they are.” Singh’s dog, Scarbro, repays Minhaj for the advice by peeing on the couch in his office.

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