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Twaddle

@sbcglobal.net Twaddle Anon There will come a day... when these chancres of moral pus these dregs of society will have to answer for their deeds. Makes me want to vomit violently and defecate profusely in their collective corporate slop trays. Guess I need to stock up on guns ammo and gasoline so I can protect what little I have left from these government aided and abetted criminal leeches. nasadude

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Rockville, MD nasadude Member the only way to win.... ....is to not play the game. indy0365

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Franklin, IN indy0365 Member Re: the only way to win.... said the wopar ?

joshua sequel is good too

cableties

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join:2005-01-27 cableties Premium Member Selling for decades... I am not surprised. The telcos sold your info when there was the phonebook and yellowpages. Everyone that "leased" a phone (you never owned that phone back then...from MaBell), to anyone that had a line(s) to their home or business, your information was peddled.



Think that magazine subscription to Popular Mechanics was innocent? Think again...you are money to them. To Google. To Yahoo. To AOL. To Verizon. To Microsoft. To Amazon. To Apple.



I was told once that databases are the future. To mine. To sell.



Some call it profiling. Marketeers call it money. Your demographics, spending habits, credit scores, travel, tolls, gas stations, coffee, ... even those "shopper cards" that get you a discount at Acme or Wegmans... all track what you bought, when you shop, how much you are worth.



But what annoys me the most with the phone companies are the bogus fees they pad in. That has to stop.

ArrayList

DevOps

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join:2005-03-19

Mullica Hill, NJ ArrayList Premium Member Re: Selling for decades... This shit is why I'm not at all surprise or opposed to the NSA stuff that Ed Snowden is leaking. I don't feel like my civil rights are being eroded any more by the government than any other company. amungus

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America amungus Premium Member lies, damned lies GPS on phones was originally said to be "oh, that's for 911, and you can turn it off, so that it'll only be 'on' when you dial emergency services"



...bullsheeat



Not so "conspiratorial" anymore with stories like this. They know exactly who's where... "where my dots at?"

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DevOps

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Mullica Hill, NJ ArrayList Premium Member Re: lies, damned lies they don't need gps to get your location. amungus

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America amungus Premium Member Re: lies, damned lies True, but it's much faster and far more precise with it. Prior to GPS chips being mandatory in all cell phones, triangulating, let along "aggregating" the data from each and every person was less commonly done.

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DevOps

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Mullica Hill, NJ ArrayList Premium Member Re: lies, damned lies Forgive me if I don't take your word for it.

MovieLover76

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Cherry Hill, NJ ·Verizon FiOS

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BS, they've always been using the location technology, including triangulation as much as possible, btw that's what most of the location is, cell site location data. All they need to look at is your connection to the tower, using gps constantly would kill phone battery life. InvalidError

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GPS has never been "mandatory" in any phone and still isn't today. However, it is on Google's short list of strongly recommended features for Android-based devices so most of them have it.



If you are in the middle of nowhere, GPS is more accurate than cell-tower triangulation because you rarely have enough towers within range to make it work but in urban settings with tall building obstructing line-of-sight in most directions most of the time, GPS often becomes spotty with wild location fluctuations between position updates. In that case, cell-tower triangulation is often more accurate and more reliable.



Cell. triangulation also has the "benefit" of being non-blockable/non-fakable by end-users with jailbroken devices.

newview

Ex .. Ex .. Exactly

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Parsonsburg, MD newview Premium Member Getting off of mailing lists



I've also used the Direct Marketing Association's mailing List removal website, but I HIGHLY recommend using a throwaway email address to register. From my experience with them back in the Sanford Wallace & Cyberpromo days ... I don't trust them with ANY email address.

»www.dmachoice.org/ I've been pretty successful using Catalog Choice to at least remove myself from postal mailing lists. Verizon was by far the absolute WORST to get to stop mailing me crap, even tho I haven't been their customer for years.I've also used the Direct Marketing Association's mailing List removal website, but I HIGHLY recommend using a throwaway email address to register. From my experience with them back in the Sanford Wallace & Cyberpromo days ... I don't trust them with ANY email address.

imanogre

join:2005-11-29

Smyrna, GA imanogre Member Is this a way out of contract? I wonder, can we send ATT a message and say I no longer want my information shared or sold.... if they say they cannot do it is this a way out of contract?

IowaCowboy

Supermarket Hero

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Springfield, MA ARRIS SB6183

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IowaCowboy Premium Member HIPAA It would be nice if we could have rules similar to HIPAA but for consumer information.



Maybe we could claim HIPAA violations against AT&T, especially when we go to clinics that we don't want many people knowing we go there like mental health, alcohol/substance abuse, or other clinics that we don't anyone know where we are going. Many people take their mobile devices with them to these facilities.



If AT&T wants to continue this behavior, they should create a map of locations that should be off limits to location tracking such as ALL healthcare facilities (including doctor's offices, hospitals, outpatient surgery centers, mental health/substance abuse facilities, etc), domestic violence shelters, social service agencies, and any other facility that is bound to keep client information confidential. And they should create a buffer around the general location of these facilities so that they don't know which facility you are going into (like the laundromat next to psychologist's office).



If they were to create "do not track" locations, the North End in Springfield MA should be off limits due to the fact there are a lot of doctor's offices/medical facilities in that area.



AT&T may face legal implications for tracking every move, especially when that tracking follows someone into a healthcare facility thanks to HIPAA.

xpbx

No Compassion

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Errington, BC xpbx Premium Member how this is still coming as a surprise to anyone is ludicrous.



surprise! they've always been in cahoots with the gubment. hello, mcfly?

attdata

@windstream.net attdata Anon You can remove yourself from these lists

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which shows how you can opt out of their program. There are many articles out there such at this onewhich shows how you can opt out of their program. your comment..

