Televangelist Rick Joyner dedicated his most recent “Prophetic Perspectives on Current Events” program to refuting reports that Russia interfered with the U.S. election with the intent of benefiting Donald Trump, insisting that any evidence pointing to that conclusion could only have come from a false flag operation.

Joyner insisted that Russian president Vladimir Putin is not a dictator, but rather a wildly popular, democratically elected leader who is justifiably outraged at the United States for criticizing and opposing Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea. Russia and the United States “should be best friends,” Joyner said, but we’re not because America continues to alienate them by doing “the most unbelievably offensive things to Russia and the Russian people.”

Joyner said that interfering in our election would have been a perfectly understandable thing for Russia to do while he also insisted that Russia did nothing of the sort. As Joyner explained it, in order to blame Russia for the hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign, “you’re going to need some pretty sure evidence and if there is evidence left in the sources that were hacked, then you can almost be sure that it was not the Russians.”

The Russians are too sophisticated to leave behind any evidence of their involvement in this sort of cyberattack, Joyner insisted, and so if U.S. intelligence agencies discovered any evidence indicating Russian involvement, it must have been planted there by “whoever did do it … in order to point to Russia.”

In short, Joyner’s position on this issue is that the United States must have concrete evidence before it blames Russia for the hacks … but also that any concrete evidence our intelligence agencies find supporting that conclusion cannot be trusted because it was planted by unknown sources for the purpose of falsely implicating Russia.