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As an example of how to read the chart, if you really want that Celestial Mercury skin at level 60, you will need a total of 74,100 OXP. Along with that skin you'll get the following:



a) 220 Keys

b) 2600 PCs

c) 13M Ag

d) 530 Au

e) 14 assorted boosters

f) 0.30 Igniters (3000 Shards)

g) 0.16 Corona

h) 0.20 Nemesis

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So now as to the column labelled "Effective Level from Gathering Storm." You want to get to level 60 in the current Raging Typhoon operation but are unsure how much grinding that will take since Pix has obfuscated things by changing how many OXP you get in this operations vs. the last one, changed the OXP required for each level, changing the length of the operations, etc. If you grind at the same intensity as in Gathering Storm, you would have needed to make it to level 68 in Gathering Storm (see table immediately above) to make it to level 60 in Raging Typhoon. Essentially what I did was correct for changes to OXP between the two operations and also assumed you grind for 60 days in Raging Typhoon rather than 45 in Gathering Storm. If this isn't clear, let me know and I will try and do a better job of explaining it. The table below shows how much cumulative loot you get from the free chain at each level achieved. It also shows how many total OXP you'll need to get to each level. I've also added a column entitled "Effective Level from Gathering Storm." This column gives you an idea of where you would get in Raging Typhoon if you ground as hard as in Gathering Storm. I'll explain this in a bit.As an example of how to read the chart, if you really want that Celestial Mercury skin at level 60, you will need a total of 74,100 OXP. Along with that skin you'll get the following:a) 220 Keysb) 2600 PCsc) 13M Agd) 530 Aue) 14 assorted boostersf) 0.30 Igniters (3000 Shards)g) 0.16 Coronah) 0.20 Nemesisi) 2 generic pilotsSo now as to the column labelled "Effective Level from Gathering Storm." You want to get to level 60 in the current Raging Typhoon operation but are unsure how much grinding that will take since Pix has obfuscated things by changing how many OXP you get in this operations vs. the last one, changed the OXP required for each level, changing the length of the operations, etc. If you grind at the same intensity as in Gathering Storm, you would have needed to make it to level 68 in Gathering Storm (see table immediately above) to make it to level 60 in Raging Typhoon. Essentially what I did was correct for changes to OXP between the two operations and also assumed you grind for 60 days in Raging Typhoon rather than 45 in Gathering Storm. If this isn't clear, let me know and I will try and do a better job of explaining it.

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What PIx seems to have done is to back load the rewards in Raging Typhoon vs. Gathering Storm; you need much more OXP in Ragining Typhoon at the beginning levels whereas you need more at the higher levels in Gather Storm. If you grind at the same intensity each day in Raging Typhoon as you did in Gathering Storm AND you made it to level 80 in Gathering Storm, you should make it to level 80 in Raging Typhoon (although you'll have to grind for 60 days rather than 45 days). If you didn't make it to level 80 in Gathering Storm, you won't make it nearly as far in Raging Typhoon.



Beyond the grind, the prizes have been nerfed as everyone is aware. Just strictly looking at OXP earned (after correcting for the 1.4X OXP in Raging Typhoon vs. Gathering Storm) you see this pattern for resources.



Free Path:









Paid Path:









Only PCs in the paid chain have received a bump. Comparison between Gathering Storm and Raging Typhoon.What PIx seems to have done is to back load the rewards in Raging Typhoon vs. Gathering Storm; you need much more OXP in Ragining Typhoon at the beginning levels whereas you need more at the higher levels in Gather Storm. If you grind at the same intensity each day in Raging Typhoon as you did in Gathering Storm AND you made it to level 80 in Gathering Storm, you should make it to level 80 in Raging Typhoon (although you'll have to grind for 60 days rather than 45 days). If you didn't make it to level 80 in Gathering Storm, you won't make it nearly as far in Raging Typhoon.Beyond the grind, the prizes have been nerfed as everyone is aware. Just strictly looking at OXP earned (after correcting for the 1.4X OXP in Raging Typhoon vs. Gathering Storm) you see this pattern for resources.Free Path:Paid Path:Only PCs in the paid chain have received a bump.

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Member Back to Top Post by Deleted on Just a few comments should Pix actually read these threads.



a) There was no need to change OXP obtained between Raging Typhoon and Gathering Storm. This just feels like an attempt to deliberately confuse people... you do get more OXP but you get less resources for your efforts as shown in the thread above. Anything that strikes at deception should be avoided as it just irritates people.



b) By requiring more OXP for the lower levels and relatively less OXP at higher levels in Raging Typhoon vs. Gathering Storm, you are just perpetuating the gap between the haves and the have nots. If you have highly leveled gear already you can do this grind and make it all the way through to the best prizes. If you're lower level you will struggle to get decent stuff. This makes it so your up and coming customer base is alienated. I know people worry about tanking but why not have some sort of OXP multiplier for lower level players so that they have a shot at the best prizes? There should be a way to do this. Maybe give an OXP bonus multiplier for players based upon how many games they have played... if they have played less than 1000 the multiplier is 4x, if they have played less than 2500 it is 2.5x, etc.



c) I was expecting a nerf to resources but definitely not as much as was done. It is also troubling that PCs actually went up. The latest Bots (Phantom/Leech) seem to only be really effective if you use lots of PCs for Phase 「dookie」, etc. If the model is to make it so that PCs are required to be successful and you try and push people to buy PCs down the road, you will see a lot of people dropping. That is on top of the playability of the game degrading because everyone is running around hitting Phase Shift.











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So if we assume about 4400 for 81-90 and 5000 for 91-100, we're looking at about 234000OXP to get to 100.



That means about 234000/60, or 3900 OXP per day. Take away 150 for the bonus and its about 3750. With boosters on the chain its about 3600. Divided by 250 OXP per game and I'm looking at about 14 games a day. I'm mid champ with premium. Ymmv.



If Tyr was a phantom I'd grind. As it is I'm going to play when I feel like it and no more.



Nice work!So if we assume about 4400 for 81-90 and 5000 for 91-100, we're looking at about 234000OXP to get to 100.That means about 234000/60, or 3900 OXP per day. Take away 150 for the bonus and its about 3750. With boosters on the chain its about 3600. Divided by 250 OXP per game and I'm looking at about 14 games a day. I'm mid champ with premium. Ymmv.If Tyr was a phantom I'd grind. As it is I'm going to play when I feel like it and no more.



If I could magically be transported back to Gold, I might be able to do this. However, seeing how my level 9 gear plays with, and against, Champs and their gear, I just calculated my avg. OXP per day. I’m 502/700 into 17, so my average is 1,740 OXP per day....well less than half of what you calculated, and thus showing me I need at least 30 battles per day for a shot at finishing.





This is a bit like MM, as my hangar strength has no influence on the need to complete Champs tasks as Champs can do...all below struggle and/or fail.....which, of course, leads to spending to level up in order to compete, lol



Pretty much every mobile game I’ve played does this exact same thing. If you are not a L11/12 Champ, just do what you can do and have fun, get whatever. Don’t let this setup stress your life!



And here lies the rub......If I could magically be transported back to Gold, I might be able to do this. However, seeing how my level 9 gear plays with, and against, Champs and their gear, I just calculated my avg. OXP per day. I’m 502/700 into 17, so my average is 1,740 OXP per day....well less than half of what you calculated, and thus showing me I need at least 30 battles per day for a shot at finishing.This is a bit like MM, as my hangar strength has no influence on the need to complete Champs tasks as Champs can do...all below struggle and/or fail.....which, of course, leads to spending to level up in order to compete, lolPretty much every mobile game I’ve played does this exact same thing. If you are not a L11/12 Champ, just do what you can do and have fun, get whatever. Don’t let this setup stress your life!

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Member Back to Top Post by Loganspawn on @greenbanana said: reckless1 said:



So if we assume about 4400 for 81-90 and 5000 for 91-100, we're looking at about 234000OXP to get to 100.



That means about 234000/60, or 3900 OXP per day. Take away 150 for the bonus and its about 3750. With boosters on the chain its about 3600. Divided by 250 OXP per game and I'm looking at about 14 games a day. I'm mid champ with premium. Ymmv.



If Tyr was a phantom I'd grind. As it is I'm going to play when I feel like it and no more.



Nice work!So if we assume about 4400 for 81-90 and 5000 for 91-100, we're looking at about 234000OXP to get to 100.That means about 234000/60, or 3900 OXP per day. Take away 150 for the bonus and its about 3750. With boosters on the chain its about 3600. Divided by 250 OXP per game and I'm looking at about 14 games a day. I'm mid champ with premium. Ymmv.If Tyr was a phantom I'd grind. As it is I'm going to play when I feel like it and no more.



If I could magically be transported back to Gold, I might be able to do this. However, seeing how my level 9 gear plays with, and against, Champs and their gear, I just calculated my avg. OXP per day. I’m 502/700 into 17, so my average is 1,740 OXP per day....well less than half of what you calculated, and thus showing me I need at least 30 battles per day for a shot at finishing.





This is a bit like MM, as my hangar strength has no influence on the need to complete Champs tasks as Champs can do...all below struggle and/or fail.....which, of course, leads to spending to level up in order to compete, lol



Pretty much every mobile game I’ve played does this exact same thing. If you are not a L11/12 Champ, just do what you can do and have fun, get whatever. Don’t let this setup stress your life!



And here lies the rub......If I could magically be transported back to Gold, I might be able to do this. However, seeing how my level 9 gear plays with, and against, Champs and their gear, I just calculated my avg. OXP per day. I’m 502/700 into 17, so my average is 1,740 OXP per day....well less than half of what you calculated, and thus showing me I need at least 30 battles per day for a shot at finishing.This is a bit like MM, as my hangar strength has no influence on the need to complete Champs tasks as Champs can do...all below struggle and/or fail.....which, of course, leads to spending to level up in order to compete, lolPretty much every mobile game I’ve played does this exact same thing. If you are not a L11/12 Champ, just do what you can do and have fun, get whatever. Don’t let this setup stress your life! Sorry if that hurts people feelings but those that play as much as some of us do should be rewarded whether the socialist (everybody should have everything instantly) types think so or not.



As for Green Banana he has it dead on! Do what you can and dont let this stress you! It is all a bonus if you have time and enjoy the game go for it if not oh well. I seriously doubt it as you get much less honor in Gold. That said even if you got first each time in gold it is probably a wash and about the same. The truth is high level people who play a ton will benefit the most, some will think this unfair I say after playing 3 hours a day for 4 years it is just fine with me.Sorry if that hurts people feelings but those that play as much as some of us do should be rewarded whether the socialist (everybody should have everything instantly) types think so or not.As for Green Banana he has it dead on! Do what you can and dont let this stress you! It is all a bonus if you have time and enjoy the game go for it if not oh well.

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If I had a solid, 5-7 bot lineup and been leveling those, I’d be in Champs by now.....and much more powerful.



The consideration for players such as myself may or may not be reasonable....but, can we be blamed for wanting to get more content for a game we enjoy/love? Nothing unreasonable in Loganspawns’ post....I’m a mid level player, but after 15 months in game, I did make mistakes, had way too many bots and was trying to keep, at one point, 15 bots leveled up...impossible!If I had a solid, 5-7 bot lineup and been leveling those, I’d be in Champs by now.....and much more powerful.The consideration for players such as myself may or may not be reasonable....but, can we be blamed for wanting to get more content for a game we enjoy/love?



And heck no I dont blame anyone for wanting more, I just dislike those (not anyone in this thread) that spout off about "whales/ killer death squads" having it all. Many of us have paid dearly in time and money to earn a little something something IMO.



Myself I do not look at the mansion on the hill and think its unfair and we should take it and spread the wealth, I look up that hill and go what can I do to get that and wouldn't it be nice if everyone could earn a mansion. Just like it sounds you might think. Knowing ones mistakes makes one great if they learn from them.And heck no I dont blame anyone for wanting more, I just dislike those (not anyone in this thread) that spout off about "whales/ killer death squads" having it all. Many of us have paid dearly in time and money to earn a little something something IMO.Myself I do not look at the mansion on the hill and think its unfair and we should take it and spread the wealth, I look up that hill and go what can I do to get that and wouldn't it be nice if everyone could earn a mansion. Just like it sounds you might think.