Flanker That bad? Is that a quality issue or is that a problem with protocol?

Mostly to do with reliability of detection. TB3 in particular was rather finicky with detecting laptops in standby and the power button on top didn't always work. Maybe it's better now. Our IT group also didn't like the DMA access that TB3 had. By the time Intel/HP released a new NVM update that fixed the Boot/Pre-startup access that TB3 had (UEFI boot now respects the User Authentication list), IT had already made it a policy to disable TB3, so we bought HP USB-C docks. Those had the same detection issues so we mass ordered the mechanical sideport docks.The mechanical docks do have their downsides (namely size and they only work with that generation of laptop - maybe other HP laptops also use the sideport dock? The ports don't seem to be present on the laptops announced here). However, they do work well, across a lot of users (about 700 or so).I somewhat liked the USB-C docks, too. I could use my personal Thinkpad to drive the displays, KB, & mouse. No internal network access for personal devices, but still good enough for my job (public facing site).All that being said, I don't see the sideport dock connector on these new laptops (using photos from other sites, since the dock port is on the right side - right side when the user is facing the display/KB), so HP seems to be going all-in on the USB-C docks. If so, they probably have them working very well, by now.