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NewbieActivity: 28Merit: 0 Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as Escrow! 600+ / 780 BTC pledged! April 20, 2013, 04:24:09 AM #141 Documentation is what I'm waiting for. I'm not going to invest in a set of chips that I may not have the hardware or steady hands to build. I always start with an initial design and a simple BOM before I even bother dropping the money.



I know the guys over at the DIY ASIC Build thread have come up with some concepts, but considering nobody really knows anything about these Avalon chips yet it is probably mostly educated guesses, which I'm fine with. I'll have to read more and see if any of them found anything.



But I will have to see if I can find a place to do batch jobs with a reflow oven. I just want my own, damnit.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 303Merit: 250 Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as Escrow! 600+ / 780 BTC pledged! April 20, 2013, 05:19:17 AM #142 At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.



Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.



But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.







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NewbieActivity: 28Merit: 0 Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as Escrow! 600+ / 780 BTC pledged! April 20, 2013, 05:39:58 AM #143 Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 05:19:17 AM At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.



Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.



But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.







If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!



samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha. If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

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Sr. MemberActivity: 303Merit: 250 Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as Escrow! 600+ / 780 BTC pledged! April 20, 2013, 05:59:10 AM #144 Quote from: Signus on April 20, 2013, 05:39:58 AM Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 05:19:17 AM At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.



Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.



But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.







If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!



samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

I "grew up" on OrCAD 10 through 15, which had tons of bugs and quirks but was powerful once you knew how to work around them. For the past 2 years I've been using Eagle at work and home. I have not had the chance to use Altium, PADS, Pulsonix or others. Altium seems to be the de facto standard these days, but seats are SO EXPENSIVE.



I've gotten used to hand-routing everything anyway (used to do a lot of analog design), so Eagle is fine for me. Luckily I haven't had to do too much impedance-controlled lines, and what I have had to do I've just calculated/routed by hand. I "grew up" on OrCAD 10 through 15, which had tons of bugs and quirks but was powerful once you knew how to work around them. For the past 2 years I've been using Eagle at work and home. I have not had the chance to use Altium, PADS, Pulsonix or others. Altium seems to be the de facto standard these days, but seats are SO EXPENSIVE.I've gotten used to hand-routing everything anyway (used to do a lot of analog design), so Eagle is fine for me. Luckily I haven't had to do too much impedance-controlled lines, and what I have had to do I've just calculated/routed by hand.



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NewbieActivity: 28Merit: 0 Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as Escrow! 600+ / 780 BTC pledged! April 20, 2013, 06:15:18 AM #145 Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 05:59:10 AM Quote from: Signus on April 20, 2013, 05:39:58 AM Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 05:19:17 AM At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.



Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.



But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.







If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!



samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

I "grew up" on OrCAD 10 through 15, which had tons of bugs and quirks but was powerful once you knew how to work around them. For the past 2 years I've been using Eagle at work and home. I have not had the chance to use Altium, PADS, Pulsonix or others. Altium seems to be the de facto standard these days, but seats are SO EXPENSIVE.



I've gotten used to hand-routing everything anyway (used to do a lot of analog design), so Eagle is fine for me. Luckily I haven't had to do too much impedance-controlled lines, and what I have had to do I've just calculated/routed by hand.

I "grew up" on OrCAD 10 through 15, which had tons of bugs and quirks but was powerful once you knew how to work around them. For the past 2 years I've been using Eagle at work and home. I have not had the chance to use Altium, PADS, Pulsonix or others. Altium seems to be the de facto standard these days, but seats are SO EXPENSIVE.I've gotten used to hand-routing everything anyway (used to do a lot of analog design), so Eagle is fine for me. Luckily I haven't had to do too much impedance-controlled lines, and what I have had to do I've just calculated/routed by hand.

That's nice. I wish I had used Altium for my RF projects. I always ruined the trace width in Eagle, since I couldn't group a set of traces to change the width on the final product at the end of the day would have different traces and impedances per line. It was awful.



I like OrCAD, but I think it has terrible part integration. I can deal with Eagle more than I can OrCAD, which I just use for simulation. That's nice. I wish I had used Altium for my RF projects. I always ruined the trace width in Eagle, since I couldn't group a set of traces to change the width on the final product at the end of the day would have different traces and impedances per line. It was awful.I like OrCAD, but I think it has terrible part integration. I can deal with Eagle more than I can OrCAD, which I just use for simulation.

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Full MemberActivity: 219Merit: 100 Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as Escrow! 600+ / 780 BTC pledged! April 20, 2013, 10:13:09 AM #149 hi JohnK, i will be sending btc on monday onto the add in this thread, please confirm that i will be able to vet chips in eu. another thing: most of buyers aren't interested in chips per se but rather working miner. is there any eta for those? i would prefer that, if someone will provide pcb and assembly service, my stuff is sent to the person providing such a service. i assume service will be provided for a fee. there is no need to duplicate work needlessly... br