Rekrul Profile Blog Joined November 2002 Korea (South) 17172 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:10:57 #1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304512



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I have corrected some errors in this thread. I would like to apologize to Coach Lee for stating a few things as if they were fact when they were merely rumors floating around among the Korean Pro's. Even though I feel it is obvious that Lee is completely hypocritical in all his recent dealings with the EG/Puma situation and the Fnatic/Alive situation, in fairness I owe it to him to correct these things that were stated:



1. Lee never actually 'came to oGs desperately' to live there. He did hang out at the oGs Sook-so often during those times though.



2. While the events of that day are accurate with Spunky angrily storming into the new TSL Sook-so trying to get his players back, the stuff with the video cameras was speculation from the people at the Sook-so that day. Spunky never claimed it as a fact to me, I had just heard it through the grapevine.



3. At that time FD/Tester decided to stay with TSL on their own interest. It was actually still in their best interest financially to stay with TSL considering their situation as described in the original thread. Lee wasn't blackmailing them. They just made a stupid decision on their part and when the dust settled they said their apologies to oGs and stayed with TSL.



Once again, sorry Coach Lee for spreading misinformation and causing misunderstanding and possibly harming your reputation.



Edit: having TL delete the entire thread as it is too libelous. I have corrected some errors in this thread. I would like to apologize to Coach Lee for stating a few things as if they were fact when they were merely rumors floating around among the Korean Pro's. Even though I feel it is obvious that Lee is completely hypocritical in all his recent dealings with the EG/Puma situation and the Fnatic/Alive situation, in fairness I owe it to him to correct these things that were stated:1. Lee never actually 'came to oGs desperately' to live there. He did hang out at the oGs Sook-so often during those times though.2. While the events of that day are accurate with Spunky angrily storming into the new TSL Sook-so trying to get his players back, the stuff with the video cameras was speculation from the people at the Sook-so that day. Spunky never claimed it as a fact to me, I had just heard it through the grapevine.3. At that time FD/Tester decided to stay with TSL on their own interest. It was actually still in their best interest financially to stay with TSL considering their situation as described in the original thread. Lee wasn't blackmailing them. They just made a stupid decision on their part and when the dust settled they said their apologies to oGs and stayed with TSL.Once again, sorry Coach Lee for spreading misinformation and causing misunderstanding and possibly harming your reputation. why so 진지해?

Barrin Profile Blog Joined May 2010 United States 4998 Posts #2 Thanks for clearing that up <3 Grandfather of LotV's resource model. "Fewer Resources per Base"

parazice Profile Joined March 2011 Thailand 3723 Posts #3 omg better to del my brain memory

RAGEMOAR The Pope Profile Joined February 2011 United States 213 Posts #4 Glad this is getting cleared up before more rumors spread.

TheAmazombie Profile Blog Joined September 2010 United States 3714 Posts #5 Does Lee have something on you as well? JK.



Thanks for clarifying things a bit. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin

IAttackYou Profile Joined August 2010 United States 320 Posts #6 Thank you for clarification :D I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow

xVoiid Profile Blog Joined January 2011 Canada 188 Posts #7 But.. I had my pitchfork ready.. It ain't over 'till it's over.

CosmicSpiral Profile Blog Joined December 2010 United States 10853 Posts #8 Well that actually changes the entire tone of the OP. Writer Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.

VirgilSC2 Profile Blog Joined June 2011 United States 5748 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:39:45 #9 At this point I feel like even with these errors corrected, Coach Lee still comes off as a bad person. It should say a lot that even if those things might not have been true, to have rumors about things as serious as this floating around there's something afoot.



I think the biggest thing needed to learn here is that without cited sources ANYTHING can be untrue/rumor no matter who posts it. (looking at you Chill).



Thanks for being forward with the revised information.



EDIT: I think it is an absolutely terrible decision to delete the thread. Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2

unit Profile Blog Joined March 2009 United States 2603 Posts #10 thanks for the clarity though rekrul well, gotta douse my torch nowthanks for the clarity though rekrul "It's not trying to be perfect; it's being yourself."-Liquid'NonY

LittleAtari Profile Joined August 2010 Jordan 1088 Posts #11 still not fond of coach lee

tree.hugger Profile Blog Joined May 2009 Philadelphia, PA 10042 Posts #12 Pretty sure this doesn't change any part of the story, except the fact that Coach Lee also isn't a mad scientist. Moderator EffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid

McFeser Profile Joined July 2011 United States 2458 Posts #13 Besides number 1, I remember you stating 2-3 in your previous post (maybe you just implied that it was the case).



I respect you for writing this but you know there is going to be three people in this thread that will say "REKRUL CAN"T BE TRUSTED ANYMORE". Good luck with them. Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote

theBALLS Profile Blog Joined July 2011 Singapore 2933 Posts #14 Dude, don't douse it.



Stir it up. Come on. If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.

Angelbelow Profile Joined September 2010 United States 3727 Posts #15 The core of the problem is still clear. Hes a hypocrite and manipulated his way into "convincing" FD and Tester to switch. The corrections don't have the sensationalistic or the James Bond effect but boils down to the same message.



I just hope that everything works out for aLive and Fnatic. If he was on the verge of being offered a fantastic contract, I hope this situation didn't screw him out of it. You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth

AxelTVx Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 909 Posts #16 Everything did seem a bit extreme... Axel 145 Masters Protoss

DrunkenTemplar Profile Joined January 2011 Australia 646 Posts #17 On January 20 2012 13:43 CosmicSpiral wrote:

Well that actually changes the entire tone of the OP.



Not really, the bit about the video/audio thing was kinda far fetched in the original post, but everything else to do with Lee poaching ogs players and the confrontation hasn't changed. Lee is still a massive dick and a hypocrite in my opinion. Combined with:



- aLive reporting that coach lee has secretly accessed his skype logs which started the whole fanatic drama

- the blackmail and betting story on playxp where Lee threatened to release information that FD/Tester had been betting (illegal in SKorea) unless they apologised in public (not verified but pretty likely at this point, see Milkis' post)

- the metric fuck tonne of players leaving TSL regularly, usually with lots of drama involving Lee



Coach Lee is now in my mind an unbelievably shady charcter in the game and I don't see any progamers joining TSL anytime soon. I think he should resign imo Not really, the bit about the video/audio thing was kinda far fetched in the original post, but everything else to do with Lee poaching ogs players and the confrontation hasn't changed. Lee is still a massive dick and a hypocrite in my opinion. Combined with:- aLive reporting that coach lee has secretly accessed his skype logs which started the whole fanatic drama- the blackmail and betting story on playxp where Lee threatened to release information that FD/Tester had been betting (illegal in SKorea) unless they apologised in public (not verified but pretty likely at this point, see Milkis' post)- the metric fuck tonne of players leaving TSL regularly, usually with lots of drama involving LeeCoach Lee is now in my mind an unbelievably shady charcter in the game and I don't see any progamers joining TSL anytime soon. I think he should resign imo

ClysmiC Profile Blog Joined December 2010 United States 2184 Posts #18 Nice clarification, but still doesn't change my opinion of Lee much.

Sephy90 Profile Blog Joined January 2010 United States 1775 Posts #19 Rekrul you really are a nice guy. Thanks for the clarification <3 "So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"

Firebolt145 Profile Blog Joined May 2010 Lalalaland 21567 Posts #20 The camera WAS quite extreme Moderator

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