Kanye West recently took a call from BBC Radio 1 host Annie Mac to announce that “Fade” is the next single from The Life of Pablo. During the interview, he discussed his apparently serious 2020 presidential bid (“I don’t have views on politics, I just have a view on humanity”), revived his interest in working with Ikea and Payless ShoeSource, said he loves Bon Iver’s Justin Vernon “the way Kanye loves Kanye,” and called Francis and the Lights’ “Friends” his favorite song of 2016. Later, he confirmed his interest in bringing the upcoming Saint Pablo Tour to Europe. Listen to their whole discussion below.

In a choice quote from the interview, Annie Mac complimented Ye on his creative range, even when people would like to put him in a box. He agreed, responding, “That’s like telling Michelangelo, I know you did this dope angel. That was really good, but, Michelangelo, I don’t think you could paint a cow.” He also said one of his videos—the short film for “Runaway”—was inspired by Stanley Kubrick’s final film, 1999’s Eyes Wide Shut.

Asked about his presidential ambitions, Ye said:

When I talk about the idea of being president, I’m not saying I have any political views. I just have a view on humanity, on people, on the truth. We are numb, we’re numb to 500 kids getting killed in Chicago a year, we’re numb to the fact that it was seven police shootings in the beginning of July. If there is anything that I can do with my time and my day, to somehow make a difference while I'm alive I’m going to try to do it.

On his potential foray into flat-pack furniture, he explained that “I have to work with Ikea—make furniture for interior design, for architecture,” adding that there’s an appetite for a Kanye-designed “minimalist apartment inside of a college dorm.” He concluded, “Yo Ikea, allow Kanye to create, allow him to make this thing because you know what, I want a bed that he makes, I want a chair that he makes. I want more products from Ye!”

Elsewhere in the interview, Kanye admitted that a rare case of nerves affected his 2015 Glastonbury performance. “It was incredible,” he said. “I started off the show and I completely messed up the music. And me, as you can imagine by this phone call, I’m a bit of a perfectionist. So it really put me into a slightly depressed state and it put me back in the position of when I was in high school and I got fired from my job.” He continued: “I don’t usually get nervous, I prepare, I get fully prepared. When that music messed up in the beginning it tapped into my nerves and when you’re nervous or vulnerable something special and something different can happen.”

Listen to “Fade”: