Eroticus now you can die in peace.

RevoLand Hell yeah, stop flaming on AMD, if there wasn't a brand named AMD for againts NVIDIA you would buying GTX 780 from 1000$, as happened with GTX Titan.

Still struggling with etiquette I see. :shadedshu:No, Nvidia would go bust if all they sold was $1000 cards. Titan is the same physical card (with a few driver based things missing) that they sell to their HPC clients for super computing tasks and it costs that market several thousand dollars apiece. That's why even now Titan costs so much. Nvidia cannot price it lower (in a sense to placate the people/businesses that bought the cards for $3-4k for computing).Please remember that AMD priced the 7970 way above what people expected and that let Nvidia release the GK104 for roughly the same even though it was only meant to be a mid range card. AMD are not angels here children. The fact they released 7990's at £800 and then a few months later they were all about £400-500 shows the mark up.Mantle is not yet out and as people say, True Audio isn't really there yet and few people are as interested in TA. Even reviewers found it a bit 'lame' as it's been done before in other formats. As for when Mantle does appear in games, then yes - it should be very good for AMD GCN card owners but we can't fly it's flag unless the games are coded for it and although we know some that do, some most definitely wont (ones Nvidia work with). So yes, Mantle good but without Intel and Nvidia signing up to it (in some form or other) it will be hamstrung from the start. There are some big AAA titles out next year and NV are involved in more than a few.I also agree that we shouldn't flame AMD, what they are doing is good but who they fight against is the problem.