Tatty_One Is that AMD info including their CPU market as well? I can't recall solely in the GPU market AMD ever matching NVidia in sales, perhaps my memory serves me incorrectly, at my age it's easy to get lost on the way home from work! :)

Casecutter However, when AMD does it "OMG a pricing adjustment their running scared", and means they got nothing else to offer (retaining my money is a good thing).

Casecutter Here Nvidia die-hards build a "defensive wall" to stave off any critique. The 770 is what Nvidia will make "their last stand" until a 960 is released (?).

Casecutter Nvidia probably can't bring themselves to work the margins of GK104's selling at $200-220, the 760 will just fade quickly being squeezed by the 270X-285.....etc,. etc. etc.

Casecutter While I'm sure most of us can invision well before Black Friday or folk buying Christmas presents AMD will have the 285 at around $210-220 (deals and rebates), so this has no bearing on what the 285 is doing, and conversely more about what Nvidia is/isn’t… in the market.

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You'd need to go back to 1998-99 and the window between 3Dfx's last hurrah and the arrival of the GeForce2. ATI was the choice de jour for a lot of big OEM's back in the day ( IIRC in 1998 ATI's profit was four times that of Nvidia- $1.2 billion revenue ($160m profit) to Nvidia's $374.5m revenue ($41m profit)....the times, they are a-changin'Well, can't speak for anyone else but I did point out that AMD are doing the exact same thing - clearing inventory as the SKU goes EOL - with the R9 280.LOL...rants on about one groups skewed worldview by answering it with hyperbole! :laugh: Yes, you're 1,0000,000% right, Nvidia as a company rises or falls on GTX 770 sales :rolleyes:...and yet, the graphics card market shares indicate no apparent reason why 1. Nvidia would sell at $200-220, and 2. Why the company would upset the cosy pricing arrangement it seems to have with AMD to keep pricing relatively stable. For two - by your opinion - companies at each others throats, there hasn't been a graphics price war in the modern era aside from some minor single SKU skirmishes.But you're right, Nvidia are clearly doomed as the discrete graphics market share clearly show - and there is no possible way that the imminent release of the Maxwell based cards will alter the companies prospects...even with Rory Read pronouncing that " AMD still has to get through 18 months of old technology before the new chips are available " - I guess either Nvidia really are in the toilet or your predictions are as accurate as usualAh, the long term view - don't worry about now becauseChristmas is coming. You cana change in AMD circumstance, but assume the competition will be standing still. You really need to hoof it Sunnyvale with your resume - this is just the exactly kind of management outlook that put AMD's CPU business in the driving seat.