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Hero MemberActivity: 756Merit: 502 bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? August 04, 2014, 03:41:18 AM

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But somewhere down the line, I was fooled by pseudo altruistic politicians into buying their ideologies which included socialism .. there were days I believed wealth is evil...







Ever since I got involved with bitcoins ... my ideology is slowly changing back from being pro Socialism to pro Libert arianism...







regretting every minute with tears...



But feel happy and Liberated when I think about the pleasures of Personal wealth ..Going to become an entrepreneur and try to amass wealth.



Its like returning back to your instincts and that truly feels liberated.



Are you having such changes?



its almost 2 years and The Transformation is complete[june 2017]...



Now I am an Anarchist... Since kid, instinctively I have always felt the right to private property and there is nothing wrong in amassing wealth.But somewhere down the line, I was fooled by pseudo altruistic politicians into buying their ideologies which included.. there were days I believed wealth is evil...Ever since I got involved with... my ideology is slowly changing back from being proto pro...regretting every minute with tears...But feel happy andwhen I think about the pleasures of..Going to become an entrepreneur and try to amass wealth.Its like returning back to your instincts and that truly feels liberated.Are you having such changes?

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Full MemberActivity: 173Merit: 100 Re: bitcoin is slowly changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! August 04, 2014, 09:05:10 AM #3 Quote from: cuddaloreappu on August 04, 2014, 03:41:18 AM yeah ever since I got involved with bitcoins... my ideology is slowly changing from



being pro socialism to pro libertarianism...



I now feel happy and liberated when I think about the pleasures of personal wealth..



are you having such changes?



The path between socialism and libertarianism, or at least the path between good socialism and good libertarianism, is not as long and weird as one may think.



I am a libertarian at heart, yet I often support policies that one may categorize as "socialist," like BIG (Basic Income Guarantee). I support these policies not despite of, but rather because of my libertarian ideas: I value self-ownership, autonomy, and personal freedom for everyone, and I think personal freedom must include the freedom to eat and have a modest but decent quality of life. I am against both Big Capital and Big Government, and I think Bitcoin can be a powerful weapon against both. The path between socialism and libertarianism, or at least the path between good socialism and good libertarianism, is not as long and weird as one may think.I am a libertarian at heart, yet I often support policies that one may categorize as "socialist," like BIG (Basic Income Guarantee). I support these policies not, but rathermy libertarian ideas: I value self-ownership, autonomy, and personal freedom for everyone, and I think personal freedom must include the freedom to eat and have a modest but decent quality of life. I am against both Big Capital and Big Government, and I think Bitcoin can be a powerful weapon against both.

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LegendaryActivity: 1764Merit: 1007 Re: bitcoin is slowly changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! August 04, 2014, 10:36:17 AM #9



Bitcoin is perfectly compatible with that kind of socialism.



It's also a more natural form of self-organization in a truly anarchistic society. Historically, if workers felt exploited by their capitalist bosses, they went on strike, mutiny, and eventually took over the factory, i.e. the means of production. Only the old establishment's countermeasures prevented that from happening further, i.e. through guards, police, etc. (That's why both von Mises and Rand were not anarchists, and were convinced that a minimal state is necessary, s. Night-watchman state.)



Reality unfortunately is not like Ayn Rand's Freudian ramblings. The first, old capitalists were not "heroes", they did not "work hard" to build the factory, they were merely privileged by being in the same gentlemen's clubs as the old aristocracy and political leaders.







right, "Socialism" does not mean what most US-Americans think and how they use that word all the time. The term "Socialism" originally meant workers to be in control of the means of production, i.e. co-ops instead of bosses. It doesn't say anything about a (welfare) state.Bitcoin is perfectly compatible with that kind of socialism.It's also a more natural form of self-organization in a truly anarchistic society. Historically, if workers felt exploited by their capitalist bosses, they went on strike, mutiny, and eventually took over the factory, i.e. the means of production. Only the old establishment's countermeasures prevented that from happening further, i.e. through guards, police, etc. (That's why both von Mises and Rand were not anarchists, and were convinced that a minimal state is necessary, s. Night-watchman state.)Reality unfortunately is not like Ayn Rand's Freudian ramblings. The first, old capitalists were not "heroes", they did not "work hard" to build the factory, they were merely privileged by being in the same gentlemen's clubs as the old aristocracy and political leaders. http://exiledonline.com/recovered-economic-history-everyone-but-an-idiot-knows-that-the-lower-classes-must-be-kept-poor-or-they-will-never-be-industrious/ https://localbitcoins.com/?ch=80k | BTC: 1LJvmd1iLi199eY7EVKtNQRW3LqZi8ZmmB

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Sr. MemberActivity: 406Merit: 250 Re: bitcoin is slowly changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! August 04, 2014, 01:54:13 PM #15 Quote from: herzmeister on August 04, 2014, 10:36:17 AM



Bitcoin is perfectly compatible with that kind of socialism.



It's also a more natural form of self-organization in a truly anarchistic society. Historically, if workers felt exploited by their capitalist bosses, they went on strike, mutiny, and eventually took over the factory, i.e. the means of production. Only the old establishment's countermeasures prevented that from happening further, i.e. through guards, police, etc. (That's why both von Mises and Rand were not anarchists, and were convinced that a minimal state is necessary, s. Night-watchman state.)



Reality unfortunately is not like Ayn Rand's Freudian ramblings. The first, old capitalists were not "heroes", they did not "work hard" to build the factory, they were merely privileged by being in the same gentlemen's clubs as the old aristocracy and political leaders.









right, "Socialism" does not mean what most US-Americans think and how they use that word all the time. The term "Socialism" originally meant workers to be in control of the means of production, i.e. co-ops instead of bosses. It doesn't say anything about a (welfare) state.Bitcoin is perfectly compatible with that kind of socialism.It's also a more natural form of self-organization in a truly anarchistic society. Historically, if workers felt exploited by their capitalist bosses, they went on strike, mutiny, and eventually took over the factory, i.e. the means of production. Only the old establishment's countermeasures prevented that from happening further, i.e. through guards, police, etc. (That's why both von Mises and Rand were not anarchists, and were convinced that a minimal state is necessary, s. Night-watchman state.)Reality unfortunately is not like Ayn Rand's Freudian ramblings. The first, old capitalists were not "heroes", they did not "work hard" to build the factory, they were merely privileged by being in the same gentlemen's clubs as the old aristocracy and political leaders. http://exiledonline.com/recovered-economic-history-everyone-but-an-idiot-knows-that-the-lower-classes-must-be-kept-poor-or-they-will-never-be-industrious/

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