

Ben Lindbergh and Jeff Sullivan have an in-depth discussion with former Mets director of baseball operations and Braves assistant GM Adam Fisher about being a front-office utility man, talking to the media, work-life imbalance in baseball operations, the public-private information gap, the evolution of analytics, scouting, and player development over the past 15 years, the shrinking of competitive advantages, and all of the ins and outs of the trade deadline: where trade ideas come from, how teams communicate, trade-talk etiquette, leaks and sources, evaluating offers, the art of persuasion, the mechanics of completing trades, why teams wait until the deadline to deal, whether “winning” trades is still something teams expect to do, trading within the division, and much more.

Audio intro: Bruce Springsteen, "Outside Looking In"

Audio interstitial: Feist, "Inside and Out"

Audio outro: Zoe Muth and the Lost High Rollers, "Come Inside"

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