

FFH5

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Tavistock NJ FFH5 Premium Member Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years If you buy a good docsis 3 approved modem for about $100, you will break even in about 17 months. And that modem should be good for years.



tshirt

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Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years Obviously a good plan for those with cash and plan to remain in a cable area for 3 years, but we see a lot of pennywise/pound foolish shopping in the cable forums here (where people are repeatedly told it's a better deal) the average non-DLSR customer it probably rarely even occurs how quick the pay off is with the higher than ever rental rates.

dishrich

join:2006-05-12

Springfield, IL dishrich Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years said by tshirt: Obviously a good plan for those with cash and plan to remain in a cable area for 3 years

I'm sure there's many (cable) folks that wouldn't mind getting a newer modem f/about 1/2 the price of a brand new one, even with a little wear on it... What diff does that make - you simply turn around & sell your modem.I'm sure there's many (cable) folks that wouldn't mind getting a newer modem f/about 1/2 the price of a brand new one, even with a little wear on it...



tshirt

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Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years Seeing all the problems from used modems, makes me ALWAYS recommend people ONLY buy new.

I and a fair number of those defrauded by stolen, damaged or banned modems be happy to see the used market die out.

elefante72

join:2010-12-03

East Amherst, NY elefante72 Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years No different than any market. There is risk in any used item, no matter the item. Stolen cards, cell phones, cameras, electronics, etc. This has been a problem since the beginning of human trading. I have bought a number of modems off ebay, without a hitch. There is buyer protection and paypal makes good if there are issues. But pay attention to buyers with ad ratings or items being sold as "new" under the going rate. As for used, YMMV just like anything else. You have to factor in that once in a while something will be off.



Before stubhub and others buying tickets from scalpers and CL was always an adventure. So now I pay a little extra, but now I know I'm not getting ripped and if I do they will back me.



jap

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038xx 1 recommendation jap to tshirt

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said by tshirt: Seeing all the problems from used modems, makes me ALWAYS recommend people ONLY buy new. I and a fair number of those defrauded by stolen, damaged or banned modems be happy to see the used market die out.



I bought my Ubee DDI3513 (4 / 4 channels) modem used off Craig's List against screams from people on this site who can't comprehend calling Comcast to vet the MAC (aka Comcast S/N) before closing the deal.



Think I paid the guy $60 for it. That was 21months x $7 = $147.00 ago in rental fees and it should get me through another 5 years or so. One can probably buy same for $40 now as I see Amazon is shipping new ones for $69. It's no different than checking the ESN on a mobile phone before buying. Just tell people that rather than fear mongering.I bought my Ubee DDI3513 (4 / 4 channels) modem used off Craig's List against screams from people on this site who can't comprehend calling Comcast to vet the MAC (aka Comcast S/N) before closing the deal.Think I paid the guy $60 for it. That was 21months x $7 = $147.00 ago in rental fees and it should get me through another 5 years or so. One can probably buy same for $40 now as I see Amazon is shipping new ones for $69.

47717768 (banned)

join:2003-12-08

Birmingham, AL 1 edit 47717768 (banned) Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years I agree. I see nothing wrong with the used products unless the description say's something like "Sold for parts" or a specific function does not work. In fact my cable modem i have gotten off eBay is used. But working great for the passed 6 month. Even new products stop working in some point.



tshirt

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Snohomish, WA tshirt to jap

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said by jap: I bought my Ubee DDI3513 (4 / 4 channels) modem used off Craig's List against screams from people on this site who can't comprehend calling Comcast to vet the MAC (aka Comcast S/N) before closing the deal.







Some people refuse to accept/fail to understand that by buying their own they take all responsibility of ownership and buying used seem to add a particularly high chance of having an unusable (even if operational)unit. That's a good idea, but most people don't do that and we frequently see complaints that ComCAST or TWC is blocking their purchased modem. and they're gonna sue or call the fcc or rant for pages, when the problem is they bought a used/damaged/stolen modem.Some people refuse to accept/fail to understand that by buying their own they take all responsibility of ownership and buying used seem to add a particularly high chance of having an unusable (even if operational)unit.

elray

join:2000-12-16

Santa Monica, CA elray to tshirt

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said by tshirt: Obviously a good plan for those with cash and plan to remain in a cable area for 3 years, but we see a lot of pennywise/pound foolish shopping in the cable forums here (where people are repeatedly told it's a better deal) the average non-DLSR customer it probably rarely even occurs how quick the pay off is with the higher than ever rental rates.





Buy a refurbished SB 5101 for $16 and call it a day. If you're concerned about monthly costs, you aren't paying Docsis 3 rates anyway.Buy a refurbished SB 5101 for $16 and call it a day.



tshirt

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join:2004-07-11

Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years Might work until they go ALL D3 (soon for Comcast, TWC seems to be moving that direction with that "Approved Modems List".

greater network efficacy and and better use of upstream bandwidth will give increased speeds for many more.

47717768 (banned)

join:2003-12-08

Birmingham, AL 47717768 (banned) to elray

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WOW. I did not know you can buy a refurbished Motorola Surfboard SB5101 for a low price » www.amazon.com/gp/offer- ··· urbished

Wilsdom

join:2009-08-06 Wilsdom to FFH5

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Unless you buy one, and TWC announces a new policy that you can no longer use it. Notice this fee is to "invest in our network", so every customer should have to pay their fair share...not to mention the "problems," perhaps even "security breaches," that customer-owned modems could cause the network



tshirt

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Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years I don't blame TWC or comcast (being the big boys of cable) for charging higher rates for rentals, which often have a rough life and a much higher than customer owned replacement rate. but it doesn't mean consumers need to pay for it, most of those models have less than a 1 year pay off.

for D3 devices network security measures can handle any tampering efforts as your modem has too basically "check -in and be aproved" each time it reboots, unlike years ago even physical tampering is not very effective in stealing broadband or cable services.

WhatNow

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join:2009-05-06

Charlotte, NC WhatNow Premium Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years At $6/month equals $72/yr the Motorola modem that was approved cost me around $100 at Walmart. It cost TWC around $600/yr to change modems because I dropped the VoIP. I did not use the phone and could not buy my own modem with VoIP.

Then they made me mad sending me a letter saying I could get VoIP free for 1 year if I signed up for 2 years. If you can do that then you are price gouging. I think right now I can get the 3 services plan cheaper for a year then what I am paying for TV and internet. Wish Uverse was here just so I could get cheaper cable by threatening to leave or changing back and forth.



ropeguru

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Mechanicsville, VA ropeguru to tshirt

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I blame them. All the rental rates should be included in the package price and NOT as another unfee. It is only a way for them to jack the price without jacking the price of the package. These rentals are just ass bad as all the bullcrap admin fees.



tshirt

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join:2004-07-11

Snohomish, WA 1 recommendation tshirt Premium Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years said by ropeguru: All the rental rates should be included in the package price and NOT as another unfee. Only if rental is required, in this case since you can buy and not pay the fee, it is permissible that it is a separate line item

zonapunk

join:2001-02-10

Washington, DC zonapunk to Wilsdom

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That would violate FCC rules.

47717768 (banned)

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Birmingham, AL 47717768 (banned) to Wilsdom

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said by Wilsdom: Unless you buy one, and TWC announces a new policy that you can no longer use it. Notice this fee is to "invest in our network", so every customer should have to pay their fair share...not to mention the "problems," perhaps even "security breaches," that customer-owned modems could cause the network

What a joke. Sure why not support a company who makes millions of dollars. There is noway end user's Modem could cause security breaches unless the modem is hacked meaning a Modem with some kind of special firmware.



roc5955

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Rosendale, NY roc5955 to Wilsdom

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Give me a break, whenever someone says something like, "it's to invest in our network," I know that it's really because he or she has a boat payment.

47717768 (banned)

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Birmingham, AL 47717768 (banned) to FFH5

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Or you can get a Cable modem from eBay. I got my modem for $30.



Pashune

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join:2006-04-14

Gautier, MS ·AT&T U-Verse

1 recommendation Pashune Premium Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years



D3 compatible, 8 ch. downstream bonding, 4 ch. up.



Seriously, at $6 per month you're really better off just buying the blasted modem. My ISP charges $5-$6 per month I think.



EDIT: Just noticed the 6180 isn't on the 'approved list'... get with the times TWC. Agreed, although my modem came from Amazon courtesy of a gift card I won. Got a SB6180 for like $40. Looked like it was never used.D3 compatible, 8 ch. downstream bonding, 4 ch. up.Seriously, at $6 per month you're really better off just buying the blasted modem. My ISP charges $5-$6 per month I think.EDIT: Just noticed the 6180 isn't on the 'approved list'... get with the times TWC.

47717768 (banned)

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Birmingham, AL 47717768 (banned) Member Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years Yep. It is ether eBay or Amazon. As far as i know you can use any cable modem with your Cable internet provider



Whew

@sonic.net Whew Anon Re: Buy docsis 3 modem for about $100 and good for years

After connecting called service. He asked if it was Docsis 3, didn't seem to care it was on list. $30 - me too!After connecting called service. He asked if it was Docsis 3, didn't seem to care it was on list.

47717768 (banned)

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Birmingham, AL 47717768 (banned) to Pashune

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said by Pashune: Agreed, although my modem came from Amazon courtesy of a gift card I won. Got a SB6180 for like $40. Looked like it was never used.



D3 compatible, 8 ch. downstream bonding, 4 ch. up.



Seriously, at $6 per month you're really better off just buying the blasted modem. My ISP charges $5-$6 per month I think.



EDIT: Just noticed the 6180 isn't on the 'approved list'... get with the times TWC.



Bright House charges $5 for the modem rental so as soon as i have signed up with Bright House i have gotten my own modem right away.



tshirt

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join:2004-07-11

Snohomish, WA tshirt Premium Member All the approved modems... ... appear to be D3 models so the higher fees seems to be due to replacement costs.

The people hosting a hotspot shouldn't have to pay anything extra for the more complex gateway required (it's to TWC's advantage to have many of them out there hoping enough customers leave the hotspot on.) Eventually I think certain homes will be paid (a very small price break, maybe $2-4 a month) to host one based on locations that need more coverage.



roc5955

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join:2005-11-26

Rosendale, NY roc5955 Premium Member Re: All the approved modems... If they want me to host a hotspot, they will have to give me FREE Internet service PLUS pay me a stipend for my electric use.



What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

jades

join:2013-04-01

New York, NY jades Member I wouldn't mind paying triple But at least give us service that works!

Two outages per month seems to be acceptable for business accounts that were already getting ripped off on

The fact that nothing works, my bill should be going down, not up!

bluedyedvd

join:2007-04-15

Overland Park, KS 4 edits bluedyedvd Member If you buy your modem no firmware updates If you do purchase your own modem twc will not push out any firmware updates and it's near impossible for aindividual to do it at least not easily with motorola modems. It cost about $70- 80 to buy a modem at most stores so when you paid that much in fees I would take the modem back to twc and get a newer model.



ps.

I guess I was wrong from what others are saying twc will push out a firmware update but the rep I spoke with told me that they can't push out any software updates on equipment that they don't own.



motoracer

join:2003-09-15

united state 1 recommendation motoracer Member Re: If you buy your modem no firmware updates said by bluedyedvd: If you do purchase your own modem twc will not push out any firmware updates and it's near impossible for aindividual to do it at least not easily with motorola modems. It cost about $70- 80 to buy a modem at most stores so when you paid that much in fees I would take the modem back to twc and get a newer model.



Model Name: SB6141

Vendor Name: Motorola

Firmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.12-SCM00-NOSH

Boot Version: PSPU-Boot(25CLK) 1.0.12.18m3

Hardware Version: 7.0

Serial Number:

Firmware Build Time: Mar 12 2013 17:48:19 False. Here's my purchased modem info that got a firmware update.Model Name: SB6141Vendor Name: MotorolaFirmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.12-SCM00-NOSHBoot Version: PSPU-Boot(25CLK) 1.0.12.18m3Hardware Version: 7.0Serial Number:Firmware Build Time:17:48:19

kingfisher

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Webster, NY kingfisher Premium Member Re: If you buy your modem no firmware updates True. My purchased SB6141 has been on Time Warner's Rochester network since late October 2012 -



Model Name: SB6141

Vendor Name: Motorola

Firmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.3-SCM03-NOSH

Boot Version: PSPU-Boot(25CLK) 1.0.12.

Hardware Version: 7.0

Serial Number:

Firmware Build Time: Aug 18 2011 10:27:53



No updates yet for me!



I think it's a stretch either way to say that you absolutely will or won't get updates from TWC.



mackey

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join:2007-08-20 0.9 2.0

mackey Premium Member Re: If you buy your modem no firmware updates said by kingfisher: True.



Here in SoCal, all 6141's (including my customer owned one) have received the new firmware.



/M False. He said "if you own your own modem." In your case, NO ONE who has that model, customer or TWC owned, has gotten a firmware update yet. Just because TWC hasn't rolled out the newer firmware for that model in your area yet doesn't mean it's because you own your modem.Here in SoCal, all 6141's (including my customer owned one) have received the new firmware./M



tshirt

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Snohomish, WA 1 recommendation tshirt to bluedyedvd

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said by bluedyedvd: If you do purchase your own modem twc will not push out any firmware update.... All modems of the same model will be offered the same updates that the company own modems get. If you stick with the approved models THEY use, you'll get the updates automatically with everyone else (if your signals are ok)

Weaselboy

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join:2003-08-02 Weaselboy to bluedyedvd

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They will.... my SB6141 got the same 1.0.6.12 update motoracer mentioned.



FFH5

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I have a Motorola SB6120 that I have owned for several years and it has had its firmware updated at least twice by Comcast that I know of.



davoice

join:2000-08-12

Saxapahaw, NC davoice to bluedyedvd

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They will push out firmware updates and if the firmware update bricks your modem, YOU have to buy the replacement.



TechyDad

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join:2001-07-13

USA TechyDad Premium Member Buying modem just makes sense



On a side note: I went to NewEgg to compare prices but they - for some reason - hide their price. (See for yourself: » So you can pay $6 a month - $72 a year (assuming they don't raise the rates yet again), or buy your own modem. Picking one at random from TWC's list: Motorola SB6141, that's $86.99 on Amazon (free shipping with Prime, non-prime members add in shipping). That means that you only need about 14 months to "pay off" the modem (less if they raise the rates again, slightly more if you need to pay shipping).On a side note: I went to NewEgg to compare prices but they - for some reason - hide their price. (See for yourself: » www.newegg.com/Product/P ··· 25390001 ) You need to have the price texted or e-mailed to you, scan a QR code, or add it to your cart AND proceed all the way to order summary (simply adding to cart isn't enough). And when you're done with any of those, the "great price" they promise is $2 more than Amazon ($88.99). Yes, there's free shipping so this might be a good deal for non-Prime members (I'm a prime member) but I don't buy things from retailers who take efforts to hide their prices.

patt2k

join:2009-01-16 patt2k Member Newegg Newegg just had 15$ off promo with google

Wallet I think deal expired today.



On a side note you guys can signup for shoprunner and have free 2 day shipping, after you signup go to cancel section after that you will have +3 months and also if you make 3 purchases using shoprunner you get free 1 year of shoprunner service.



CylonRed

MVM

join:2000-07-06

Bloom County CylonRed MVM Now glad I bought mine.... Was undecided about buying one but I decided to buy a Docsis 3 Motorola modem and a 2 year replacement warranty from NewEgg with free shipping for a tick over $100.



I own 2 DSL modems but the price for a new cable modem was low enough to go ahead a buy it. I rarely ever get a service plan/warranty but was unsure about how well cable modems were built. The replacement warranty helped with any concerns I had...



Now that the price was increased - my payoff dropped from 20 months to something less.



skeechan

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AA169|170 skeechan Premium Member 20% increase... ...yeah, because modems are getting more expensive /sarcasm



IowaCowboy

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join:2010-10-16

Springfield, MA ARRIS SB6183

Netgear R8000

1 recommendation IowaCowboy Premium Member Just buy your modem At least TWC gives you the modem for VoIP for free if you use your own data modem.



Comcast forces you to rent THEIR modem if you subscribe to CDV.



I don't even use the home phone much anymore as I use my iPhone to make/receive calls. I just keep a home phone for E911 and the alarm dialer. I have a regional phone/DirecTV through Verizon. At least it doesn't depend on premises power to function.



mromero

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join:2000-12-07

Fullerton, CA mromero Premium Member effing time scammers eff that time for me to buy that modem ive been slacking off getting

sludgehound

join:2007-03-12

New York, NY 2 edits sludgehound Member Total rip /Company' Service been in/out past two weeks. Now this? No letter or email yet in Manhattan, often a day or two behind. Be after a cheap DOCSIS 2.0 again, dropping Turbo which is no benefit.

Also I was just coming home to walk up building. Down from the roof in staircase come 2 big uniformed TWC guys carrying heavy tool bags.

Looked like bank robbers or jewel thieves! They said something about the repeater or amplifier or something being issue.

Naturally got reboot Ubee and over course of next hour & half it looses connection. Call their machine and voice says Outage in your area for TV Net phone. Offers callback when fixed. Sure and did that Sunday night. Auto call in am to say fixed. Nope, slow all day and stacked up outgoing emails. Finally totally out tonight with blinking online light until now. Hope this makes it. POS.

Thanks to having early head's up on this and no snail mail letter or email yet in my part of Big Apple. Grabbed SB6121 $39 eBay free fast shipping Buy It Now. Hot auction ones are @60-65.

Once the word goes around town gonna be hard to find anything below 50. Amazon had one (1) from their warehouse minus adapter. which is another $ or so. Lot of those those on eBay so hope not a sign of early burn out. Glad read board today. Just sensed TWC milking cow along with CBS nonsense. Probably means those FIOS trucks hit this block any day now. Lot of DISH gear on roofs facing S/W but once new 7 story residence tower goes up that signal may be blocked.

Now just gotta blow couple hours to dump modem after call in.

g/l to you guys who get the $6 jack, and then 8 & 10.





plencnerb

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join:2000-09-25

Carpentersville, IL plencnerb Premium Member Lets set things straight... quote: Last October, Time Warner Cable introduced the $3 a month rental fee to a rather annoyed public.

That is actually incorrect. The above picture is a copy of my Girlfriend bill. As you can see, her modem Lease is not $3.00, but $3.95. Looking online at her past bills (last one on the webpage that I can view is Feb of 2013), they all show $3.95 as the modem lease fee. So, unless someone rounded down in the above statement, or maybe TWC has been taking an extra 95 cents each month? If in fact the modem rental fee started out at $3.95, then it should have been reported that way, and not $3.00.



In any case, just wanted to point that out.



Just to be clear, the increase back in June where it went up to $5 a month, was that for everyone, or just new users? My girlfriend did not get that increase, so I would guess it was new users.



Finally, if you click the link to take you to the forum that shows the message from TWC (I need to check with my GF to see if she got that as well), the image clearly shows that the increase is $5.99, not $6.00.



Sure, its a penny difference, but if you go to a store, and the cost of an item is $6, and you give them $5.99, 9 times out of 10, the guy behind the counter is going to say "You owe me a penny sir". What I'm saying is that $5.99 does not equal $6.00.



Again, just trying to make sure that we are all on the same page here. Either report correctly, or don't report it at all.



--Brian In the text above, it says the followingThat is actually incorrect. The above picture is a copy of my Girlfriend bill. As you can see, her modem Lease is not $3.00, but $3.. Looking online at her past bills (last one on the webpage that I can view is Feb of 2013), they all show $3.95 as the modem lease fee. So, unless someone rounded down in the above statement, or maybe TWC has been taking an extra 95 cents each month? If in fact the modem rental fee started out at $3.95, then it should have been reported that way, and not $3.00.In any case, just wanted to point that out.Just to be clear, the increase back in June where it went up to $5 a month, was that for everyone, or just new users? My girlfriend did not get that increase, so I would guess it was new users.Finally, if you click the link to take you to the forum that shows the message from TWC (I need to check with my GF to see if she got that as well), the image clearly shows that the increase is $5.99, not $6.00.Sure, its a penny difference, but if you go to a store, and the cost of an item is $6, and you give them $5.99, 9 times out of 10, the guy behind the counter is going to say "You owe me a penny sir". What I'm saying is that $5.99 does not equal $6.00.Again, just trying to make sure that we are all on the same page here. Either report correctly, or don't report it at all.--Brian

Phroz

join:2005-11-23

Lewiston, ME 1 edit Phroz Member Re: Lets set things straight... The fee started at $3.95.



Then it was raised to $4.99 for new users, but existing users got to keep the old price.



Now it is $5.99 for everyone.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24

Brooklyn, NY tmc8080 Member Re: Lets set things straight... said by Phroz: The fee started at $3.95.



Then it was raised to $4.99 for new users, but existing users got to keep the old price.



Now it is $5.99 for everyone.

They just want everyone to pay for the new DOCSIS 3.1 modems they are going to have to buy late next year.. I'm betting these companies want a down payment of a few million dollars in good faith... guess where those dollars are coming from??

46436203 (banned)

join:2013-01-03 46436203 (banned) Member Time Warner lets you use your own, customer-owned modem. This is a stupidity tax. I have zero problems with this. Time Warner's less intelligent customers will be subsidizing their more intelligent customers who had the foresight to purchase their own modem.



We need more fees that can be avoided with some proactive research like this one in this industry.



Quit whining, Karl.



rcrcr

@rr.com rcrcr Anon Re: Time Warner lets you use your own, customer-owned modem. I disagree that this is a stupidity tax. I think plenty of intelligent customers continue to pay the rental fee because if/when they call for support on their connection, they don't want, "well, your self-owned CPE is probably the issue" to be the response every time.

GeoTel

join:2013-06-21

Longwood, FL GeoTel Member RE Feels like what started to happen with the airlines about a decade ago--they started slowly nickeling and diming everyone on small fees....choosing a seat, 2nd bag, etc. I bet many customers will never even notice the small increase and will just keep giving TWC unnecessary money.



socalblitz

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join:2008-07-31

Fullerton, CA socalblitz Premium Member $10 ($9.94) for TimeWarner Digital Phone modem w/docsis 3



»www.timewarnercable.com/ ··· ent.html TimeWarner's Los Angeles customers with Digital Phone and 30Mbit+ internet service are gouged $10/month ($9.94/month) for modem rental as the only modem available from TW with phone and docis 3 is WiFi.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24

Brooklyn, NY tmc8080 Member ebay I've seen docsis 3 modems go for as low as $30 (with an average being $50) +$10 more if you want the VOICE modem. Don't bother with the internal battery, they are a ripoff no matter who you buy them from. 10 months (or less) of fees, and TWC can pocket the profit.



EMac

@rr.com EMac Anon TW Robber barons I have TW internet, TV , phone, package! I just bought a modem for the internet to rid myself of the lease charges. this is the most stupid! thing TW has done I now use their existing supplied modem for the phone. now I have TWO what to h--l did they gain?

raytaylor

join:2009-07-28 raytaylor Member This confuses me Modem rentals have always confused me.

In New Zealand, when you sign up for almost any ISP, they will send you out your own ADSL wifi router (usually worth about $100-150) and its yours to keep if you sign a 12 month contract. If you cancel the contract you just pay a $199 early termination fee to cover the cost of the modem and the labour costs at the telephone exchange.



If you want to use your own modem thats fine. After 12 months, the ISP will ring you and ask to resign you for another contract - at which point they send you ANOTHER modem or offer some fancy deal like 2 months free or a $50 credit to your account.