User Info: mr_brain123 mr_brain123 2 years ago #61 Newhopes posted...

So men who don't worship p***Y are a hate group? This seems to be the assessment Because my life is dope and I do dope **** This seems to be the assessment

User Info: bIuerain bIuerain 2 years ago #62 kiwimyweewee posted...

I don't think the idea is inherently hateful at it's core but the people it seems to attract tend to be.



I agree with this. I'm not MGTOW, but a brief look at there pages and s*** indicates that it's a call for men to take care themselves and take control over their own lives. At its core there's nothing wrong with it, be a man and be proud of it and have the drive to take control of your destiny. Admirable values, even. And the people who follow it tend to be really funny and over-zealous, so reading some MGTOW on reddit is always good for a laugh.



The problem is that it implicitly blames feminism, liberal values, minorities, politics etc etc on all the problems men have and that these are things to be fought against. So it tends to attract unpleasant alt-right, red pilled, etc types to their cause. I can imagine this makes things go south from there. At the day, MGOTW would be a lot less toxic if it just stuck to "stop being a unmotivated slob and start working out" without the "and feminism and liberals are the reason you're an unmotivated slob" agenda. Nothing wrong with a man being driven to improve himself, but at lot of people can't bring themselves to fight without a villain to fight against. go team venture! I agree with this. I'm not MGTOW, but a brief look at there pages and s*** indicates that it's a call for men to take care themselves and take control over their own lives. At its core there's nothing wrong with it, be a man and be proud of it and have the drive to take control of your destiny. Admirable values, even. And the people who follow it tend to be really funny and over-zealous, so reading some MGTOW on reddit is always good for a laugh.The problem is that it implicitly blames feminism, liberal values, minorities, politics etc etc on all the problems men have and that these are things to be fought against. So it tends to attract unpleasant alt-right, red pilled, etc types to their cause. I can imagine this makes things go south from there. At the day, MGOTW would be a lot less toxic if it just stuck to "stop being a unmotivated slob and start working out" without the "and feminism and liberals are the reason you're an unmotivated slob" agenda. Nothing wrong with a man being driven to improve himself, but at lot of people can't bring themselves to fight without a villain to fight against.

User Info: Akron_Bob Akron_Bob 2 years ago #63



The child support system is fair because men make more than women.



The divorce and alimony system is fair because men make more than women.



Women that make false accusations against men end up going to jail or getting felony false information to law enforcement, or contempt of court charges. And men can take them to civil court for millions of dollars in settlement.



The court system was designed by men for men. Anyone who says otherwise needs to leave their mommy's basement. Don't automatically assume the "truth" is the truth. Question everything. And then the MGTOWers blame the court system, saying it's biased against men. The fact is that men have never had it better than they do today. Now they want to take away all the progress women have made in the last 100 years.The child support system is fair because men make more than women.The divorce and alimony system is fair because men make more than women.Women that make false accusations against men end up going to jail or getting felony false information to law enforcement, or contempt of court charges. And men can take them to civil court for millions of dollars in settlement.The court system was designed by men for men. Anyone who says otherwise needs to leave their mommy's basement.

User Info: AtmosOmega AtmosOmega 2 years ago #64



It's unsurprising; Men specific issues get laughed out of the room at every level. Trying to even discuss the matters in academia provoked a vile response from prominent radical feminists, who actively protested discussion of these issues at every level purely out of blind hatred and spite with the moral support of social and mainstream media.



Of course, just because they oppose something that's inherently idiotic and spiteful towards them, doesn't make MGTOW's response inherently objective or correct either. I've met many of their number who gladly take advantage of society's ongoing collapse of objectivity to launch their own idiotic, spiteful pet ideology that specifically hates women and everything related to them (not just feminism or its most radical elements).



Spite begets spite. Hate begets hate.



MGTOW's reputation is stained in the same way Feminism's is (at least among the sane), only they don't have the benefit of an incredibly corrupt, amoral yellow journalism industry to back their flavor of lunacy up; so rather than sparking outrage and contempt, their mewlings illicit snide chuckles and bemusement.



I understand their perspective completely, but I don't agree with their response at all.

Sulking and self-pity fixes nothing. If you don't like what a gaming company is trying to force upon you and the market, don't buy that company's games.

Cruel DRM can only flourish if you let it. They're a direct response to current Outrage Era Feminism.It's unsurprising; Men specific issues get laughed out of the room at every level. Trying to even discuss the matters in academia provoked a vile response from prominent radical feminists, who actively protested discussion of these issues at every level purely out of blind hatred and spite with the moral support of social and mainstream media.Of course, just because they oppose something that's inherently idiotic and spiteful towards them, doesn't make MGTOW's response inherently objective or correct either. I've met many of their number who gladly take advantage of society's ongoing collapse of objectivity to launch their own idiotic, spiteful pet ideology that specifically hates women and everything related to them (not just feminism or its most radical elements).Spite begets spite. Hate begets hate.MGTOW's reputation is stained in the same way Feminism's is (at least among the sane), only they don't have the benefit of an incredibly corrupt, amoral yellow journalism industry to back their flavor of lunacy up; so rather than sparking outrage and contempt, their mewlings illicit snide chuckles and bemusement.I understand their perspective completely, but I don't agree with their response at all.Sulking and self-pity fixes nothing.

User Info: str8Knowledge str8Knowledge 2 years ago #66 You wanted to live with the judge?

User Info: Zero_Destroyer Zero_Destroyer 2 years ago #67 mr_brain123 posted...

Newhopes posted...

So men who don't worship p***Y are a hate group? This seems to be the assessment



This'd be apt if the MGTOW crowd didn't have a huge chip on their soldier and make it a major part of their identity. Doesn't help that a lot of Youtube channels representing MGTOW are, well, even more pathetic.



It's the first group that makes me think "Holy s*** The Greatest Generation fought for this s***?" when I see them tbh



They're not a hate group by any stretch (redpill falls more in line with this) partly because they're not really hateful on a regular basis and partly because it's an ideology. Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses.

http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) This'd be apt if the MGTOW crowd didn't have a huge chip on their soldier and make it a major part of their identity. Doesn't help that a lot of Youtube channels representing MGTOW are, well, even more pathetic.It's the first group that makes me think "Holy s*** The Greatest Generation fought for this s***?" when I see them tbhThey're not a hate group by any stretch (redpill falls more in line with this) partly because they're not really hateful on a regular basis and partly because it's an ideology.

User Info: Nukleen Nukleen 2 years ago #68 no. Seems like a group of men with common sense to me

User Info: str8Knowledge str8Knowledge 2 years ago #69 I think they call it co opting. The original mgtow were chill. But then a bunch of losers blamed their fails on women and wave mgtow flags.