Mode.9800

Well it's been a while, so let's talk about the first 3 episodes of Arrow all at once

CurryKun

Arrow is kind of like the opposite of Flash to me right now. It's not close to perfect but at least it's trying new things and adding somewhat lasting consequences from last season that are directly affecting the story

mode.9800

Personally I think Arrow is in a fantastic place, let's run through. 1 we have no seen a main antagonist, pulling all the strings yet. 2 as you said lasting consequences from Chase, 3 understanding that this far into the show it needs to change a little how did you feel about the batman reference?

CurryKun

very direct-- shockingly direct dropping Bruce's name and Gotham... think CW is circling the waters??

mode.9800

I don't know how the right line up when it comes to batman and Gotham, since that is on fox. and they have mentioned gotham a few times, (on earth 38 anyway) so it isn't totally out of the blue

But let's take a look at some characters

First off, we have Oliver and his son. I have enjoyed the issues with Oliver trying to parent and failing a little

CurryKun

Yes this is what I'm talking about with just shaking up the formula. Every season seems to give Oliver a new challenge in his life, last season was how to be a good Mayor, we've had business owner, etc. We've never seen him in a position of parenting and I like it. The son is a good actor and their arc so far is believable though a little rushed I'd like to see it flushed over a few more episodes but it's fine

mode.9800

And i really liked how William brought up his fear of Oliver being GA. All he knows of Oliver's superheroeing is being kidnapped by Chase and Dahrk. So it makes sense that he is terrified of him dying out there

CurryKun

I like also how they brought Oliver's old maid back from S1

mode.9800

yea, I always wondered what happened to her

Now Oliver's decision to give up, at least for now, the hood?

CurryKun

Again, I loved it. Well from Oliver's side at least. At the moment as we both said there is no main villain-- so to Oliver this is the perfect time to step aside. I think Diggle not telling Oliver about his condition was stupid considering he was there to tell him-- also I don't get WHY the GA has to exist, they have a whole other team why couldn’t Diggle just be Diggle.

mode.9800

I think it has to do with it being a symbol, the protection of the city and all. it seems like they feel crime is down, etc so perhaps this is a statement on Oliver feeling like if there is no GA it will come back

Not to mention, he is also handing off leadership of the team.

CurryKun

The things diggle got cold feet with were pretty simple calls haha I kinda wish they gave him more meat to sink his teeth into in terms of hard choices.

mode.9800

ok, lets use that to move into Digg

I hope that they aren't done with Digg and hard choices.

CurryKun

same here, I hope he gets one of those life or death choices, but not so soon. I want him to be a good team leader for a few episodes. Once again I'm annoyed with this whole secret of him doing these drugs. I'm sick of secrets because in CW they all play out the same.

mode.9800

Here is the thing with this one, I agree with you that the secrets can get silly. But my hope with this one is it is more to do with Digg's mental state than anything else. He looks at himself as the soldier, complete the task at hand. He didn't feel like the tremor was a big deal at first and then he found out it was a major problem

but I have hope that the drugs is going to lead into another plot

an isn't just "why didn't you come to me for help"

All in all, Digg is probably in the hardest place writing wise. His character doesn't really have a logical place to go, so i also think there is a chance that this could be the end of digg as we knew it.

CurryKun

do you agree with me it's silly how a chip can repair felicity's spine and allow her to walk but not stop Diggle's tremor? I think if Diggle told Curtis about it he can invent something to help him.

mode.9800

well, yes...but he didn't ask

although

on the other hand

if the tremor is psychosomatic there is nothing a chip can do

CurryKun

true-- nevertheless i'm happy something from the island exploding stuck into next season and is a central plot point-- it made Chase just as good

mode.9800

yea

ok, BC

I am very happy with her direction, i think they got this one right

CurryKun

BC?

mode.9800

Black Canary

CurryKun

oh-- yep, she's perfect, in every way, a lot better then Laurel as BC

mode.9800

not that, that is saying much lol

CurryKun

love her as the second in command and the steadying hand (no pun intended) to John

mode.9800

but yes i agree

you can tell that she spend time doing this on her own, and she works as a good foil to John now. While John was the voice on Oliver's shoulder trying to keep him human. She is different

and it works well

CurryKun

agreed she is one of the highlights of the show for me right now

mode.9800

The rest of the team is pretty much the same as ever, Curtis and Renee do there jobs and it works.

CurryKun

Rene is a good foil to Diggle screwing up and really lays the heat on him. Curtis is Curtis

mode.9800

yup

I'd rather not get into an argument about our namesake, but all I will say is; Felicity has been good for me this season

CurryKun

she is the same to me-- Oliver is the one doing everything to get them back together to be fair she isn't it's annoying-- we can go on for hours about it, we both just have completely different views on that relationship

mode.9800

pretty much

so the last thing i want to discuss is this FBI agent

This one is a little weird, since we know Argus knows Oliver is GA

CurryKun

Argus is completely outside of the FBI

mode.9800

I know, but they are still a part of the US government

CurryKun

I don't think Argus reports to anyone outside of maybe the President?

mode.9800

But the FBI director reports to the President too

we all saw what happened with Comey

CurryKun

i think this is more of a FBI will make it all public and press charges deal

while Argus clearly doesn't care



mode.9800

yea

It is interesting, because Oliver has committed a lot of crimes. Not sure how many of them are federal. But could go to interesting places

Since Lance is on their side

CurryKun

yeah plus I like the actress playing the lead agent

she's very aggressive and fun to watch

the Rene talk about being a feminist with her was stupid though

mode.9800

Yea, but it is one of those Rene is Rene so i kinda excuses his terrible dialogue

So I think we can both agree, Arrow is in a good place. Keep it up

CurryKun

not a perfect show, but watchable, entertaining, and miles above its sister shows

mode.9800

well not miles ahead of Supergirl

but yes flash

and Legends , well I explained how I feel about legends this week on the avatar show

CurryKun

haha sorry to missed it

mode.9800

Eh, it was a lot of the same

ok i guess that's it on this