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LegendaryActivity: 2464Merit: 1131Intergalactic Conciliator Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 12:42:25 AM #1 This is a special fork for those who do not agree with the blocksize scheduled increase as proposed by Gavin and Mike in their divisive altcoin fork, "Bitcoin XT".



This version can be used to protect the status quo until real technical consensus is formed about the blocksize.



This version is indistinguishable from Bitcoin XT 0.11A except that it will not actually hard fork to BIP101, yet appears on the p2p network as Bitcoin XT 0.11A replete with features, yet at a consensus level behaves just like Bitcoin Core 0.11. If it is used to mine, it will produce XT block versions without actually supporting >1MB blocks.



Running this version and/or mining with XT block versions will make it impossible for the Bitcoin XT network to detect the correct switchover and cause a premature fork of anyone foolish enough to support BIP101 without wide consensus from the technical community.



It prevents correct detection of Bitcoin XT adoption in the wild since usage will be known to have been tampered with and thus all statistical data gathered by getnodes can only be considered unreliable.

https://github.com/xtbit/notbitcoinxt#not-bitcoin-xt http://www.bitcoin-gr.org

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Hero MemberActivity: 910Merit: 1002 Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 01:28:10 AM #2



The world has not seen such entertainment since Christians killed Christians over the right way to be a Christian in the YESSS!!! Bitcoiners trying to hurt bitcoiners over some stupid political squabble!The world has not seen such entertainment since Christians killed Christians over the right way to be a Christian in the Thirty Years' War Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success.

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LegendaryActivity: 1792Merit: 1010 Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 01:29:40 AM #3 getnodes is never reliable as people can always use a botnet to run whatever clients they want. All you are doing is to make XT looks stronger, thank you.



For mining, >90% miners are not anonymous, and >68% has already announced their supports to a block size increase. They may not adopt XT, but don't you believe they will sabotage XT with their real names?



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ModeratorLegendaryActivity: 2254Merit: 3456bc1qshxkrpe4arppq89fpzm6c0tpdvx5cfkve2c8kl Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 01:53:25 AM #6 This is such a terrible idea. Why would you want to spoof Bitcoin XT, it will just cause the fork to happen before consensus occurs and if enough people were using that fork, you suddenly just screwed over Bitcoin. Please don't do this, it is such a bad idea. Have you actually considered the consequences of a premature fork? If you haven't, please do think about what could happen to the Bitcoin network if a premature hard fork occurs.



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LegendaryActivity: 1792Merit: 1010 Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 01:56:52 AM #7 Quote from: knightdk on August 17, 2015, 01:53:25 AM This is such a terrible idea. Why would you want to spoof Bitcoin XT, it will just cause the fork to happen before consensus occurs and if enough people were using that fork, you suddenly just screwed over Bitcoin. Please don't do this, it is such a bad idea. Have you actually considered the consequences of a premature fork? If you haven't, please do think about what could happen to the Bitcoin network if a premature hard fork occurs.



Are you the reason that it looks like Bitcoin XT is gaining traction on bitnodes?



No worry, asking mining pools to run this crap is even harder than asking them to run the real XT. No worry, asking mining pools to run this crap is even harder than asking them to run the real XT. Donation address: 374iXxS4BuqFHsEwwxUuH3nvJ69Y7Hqur3 (Bitcoin ONLY)

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LegendaryActivity: 1792Merit: 1010 Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 02:02:23 AM #8 Think twice before you run this:



1. Have you reviewed the code?



2. This thing does no real harm unless you are really mining. With >90% of mining pools are not anonymous, do you think they will use their real name to run a spoof client?



3. Running XT means you support BIP101. Period.



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LegendaryActivity: 1288Merit: 1001Boi, boi mah! Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 03:02:51 AM #11 avoid from using the XT, unless you are sure that the XT would not break the bitcoin protocol.

XT would ever encourage the centralisation, they knew that they could attempt 51% attacks as we could not afford for the storage anymore,

XT node (BIP101 wallet) are not suitable to the newbies at all. out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded

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LegendaryActivity: 2338Merit: 1730 Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 03:22:08 AM #13 I'll stand on record as saying that I am currently running either an actual XT node, or a non-XT node that is self-reporting as XT.



I'll leave it up to the reader to decide for themselves which of the two they believe I am actually running. https://21.co/dannyhamilton/



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MemberActivity: 60Merit: 10 Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 09:58:30 AM #16 Quote from: iCEBREAKER on August 17, 2015, 06:19:39 AM



PseudoNode can now pretend to be Bitcoin XT.

Can I use PseudoNode as a proxy for my Not Bitcoin XT nodes, to multiply their effect?

FYI:



PseudoNode is already a type of p2p proxy. You can download it from



Code: pseudonode --stealth --coin=bitcoin-xt

or for Windows users:



Code: PseudoNode.exe --stealth --coin=bitcoin-xt

from a CMD console.



Next go to



Code: pseudonode --stealth

For those wondering: a PseudoNode is a type of cryptocurrency network node that uses network heuristics (rather than the normal validation method) to validate data. To the network, a pseudo node appears to be the same as a normal full node, (a pseudonode will relay blocks and transactions just like a regular full node). However, unlike a normal node, a pseudo node is very fast, and will "sync" with the network within seconds (no lengthy blockchain download is required). For more information about what PseudoNode is, see



The point of all this is that node votes-by-user-agent are, in principle, pretty much useless. It is trivial for anyone to turn their IP address into a "node" at near-zero storage/memory/CPU cost. This is also one of the reasons why incentivized full nodes don't work.



That all said, for obvious reasons it is better to run proper validating nodes (e.g. even Not Bitcoin XT) rather than pseudo nodes. My post is provided for information reasons only... FYI:PseudoNode is already a type of p2p proxy. You can download it from here and spoof an XT node directly from a console:or for Windows users:from a CMD console.Next go to getaddr.bitnodes.io and if everything is working your IP will show up an an XT node and be counted towards the total (if not, then probably port 8333 is blocked). Alternatively, you can pretend to be Bitcoin-core (Satoshi:0.11.0):For those wondering: ais a type of cryptocurrency network node that uses network heuristics (rather than the normal validation method) to validate data. To the network, a pseudo node appears to be the same as a normal full node, (a pseudonode will relay blocks and transactions just like a regular full node). However, unlike a normal node, a pseudo node is very fast, and will "sync" with the network within seconds (no lengthy blockchain download is required). For more information about what PseudoNode is, see here and here . For those wondering: the network heuristics used by PseudoNode are quite strong in practice -- it is non-trivial to "trick" PseudoNode into relaying invalid data -- although it is theoretically possible.The point of all this is that node votes-by-user-agent are, in principle, pretty much useless. It is trivial for anyone to turn their IP address into a "node" at near-zero storage/memory/CPU cost. This is also one of the reasons why incentivized full nodes don't work.That all said, for obvious reasons it is better to run proper validating nodes (e.g. even Not Bitcoin XT) rather than pseudo nodes. My post is provided for information reasons only...

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Full MemberActivity: 150Merit: 100 Re: Not Bitcoin XT August 17, 2015, 06:44:35 PM #18 I think it's a great thing to have this BUT now you caused a spike in xt nodes that some might misinterpret. Probably xt is about to die off because nobody wants it but now you start hosting nodes for it and probably already own 50% or more of all xt nodes.



Now keep in mind there is the risk here to fork the network. I would prefer letting xt die off instead of forcing the fork with fake nodes. I think this program went public a little bit too soon.



Well, one thing's certain: after anti-xt people now own probably north of 50% of all xt nodes that Gavincoin-junk lies dead in the water.



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