





The Other Dubya ( misswindy fandom_wank

@ 2004-07-25 18:13:00

Current mood: *thud* Entry tags: fandom: smallville, sockpuppets Don't You Have Any Personalities That Aren't Complete Asshats?

People, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. And yes, I'm counting the woman who went into labor becuase of a Clay Aiken wank, the people who got their nemeses fired over their Harry Potter porn, Victoria Bitter, and CrystalGamgee. This is a whole new level. Of what I don't know!



Some of y'all may remember some time ago there was a minor kerfuffle in the Smallville fandom about a fan who delusionally earnestly proposed to Tom Welling at a fan convention in late March 2004, which seemed to freak him out and send him scurrying out of the room. The SV fandom was pissed in general, because Tom W. never does fan conventions, and that one had been going very well until the weirdness from this girl. The people who were there, including Kryptonsite moderator Tigress35 said that this was not said in a flirty way, but in the same earnest wide-eyed way that the woman at a Trek convention asked Spock Leonard Nimoy what it was like to lose a son. So, yes, creepy.



This girl was, at the time, posting on Kryptonsite as TomWellingLuvsMe.



When banning the Lex Mafia from Kryptonsite yesterday, something caught my eye - some of their IP addresses were identical. One thing led to another, and after two days of comparing posting logs with LexsBitch67 (who talks about her discovery here, where we all kissed and made up), analyzing IP traceroutes, database logs, posting patterns, posting/arguing styles, and IP addresses from 4 different LJs as well as both Kryptonsite and the LexMafia message board, we've discovered that this person has at least fifteen, and possibly as many as 28 personalities (we discovered seven more today) in the Smallville fandom alone. She's also said she's involved the BtVS, Angel and Stargate SG-1 fandoms, y'all, so this is kind of a heads up.





B-Rad2004

Celticleod

ClaireH



Colilan

funnyface

getawaysame



Glenfinnan

k. caorli

kal el 1

Kelly

legendsan

Lrrr_2004

Nascent

oohbaby

scottish angel (v similar to celticleod)

snoopyrules

Solidus3184

tomwellingluvsme

Van McNulty 1

Van McNulty



Discovered today:

Babybulldog

misseslips

Ron Beattie

smallangel

undrmyspell

Wanizame

Skye





We've figured out that once she realized that Tom Welling does not, in fact, luv her, she became an insant vitriolic anti-Clark pro-Lex fan. All her personalities pre-May (when she was outed as the crazed fan) were pro-Clark. All her personalities post-May are Clark-hating Lex fans. Once the Ksite mods backed up criticism of this kind of treatment of the show's actors, and several mods snarked on her and the fandom declared her a pariah, she decided to wage war.



Specifically, this war.



Yep! That Lex Mafia wank? Is made up of at least 2/3 of her personalities. The other people just believed the varied and sundry personas' claims to persecution against Lex fans by the Ksite mods. This person's spent at least a year lying to people, and has spent the last few months deliberately trying to cause a fandom-wide rift.



It was one person doing her best to piss off UltimateMother, who must have seemed the easiest target at Ksite, not being a site admin and not having the power to ban anyone, and being nice and all. And doing it all under 20 different screennames. The vent UM posted came after months of consistent harassment from this person under at least a dozen different screennames because of her anti-Clark vitriol in the Clark forums. According to our log files, she created at least one new persona every other week between September 2003 and May 2004. She also wreaked major havoc in the Whitney forums. In one thread, one of her personalities (getawaysame) told us she hated the character because her brother had been killed by a hazing incident. She was then offered condolences by another of her personalities (colilan) and then a third personality (Lionel's Son) berated the other posters for not having reacted sensitively enough to the tragedy. Does anyone at this point even believe she has a brother? GAH!!!



No wonder we kept getting pissed off at these people. They were all the same people!





Here's my explanation reposted from Kryptonsite:



In the midst of all the back and forth craziness of the last couple of days, knowing that there was a Lex Mafia message board we are not privvy to, where a lot of bitching about Kryptonsite goes down, I casually mentioned to Kimberly aka lexsbitch67 who is the mod of the LexMafia board, that I suspected that Lionel's Son and celticleod may be the same person.



You see, I checked all of the IP addresses and they're identical. They're all either a group of IPs from Pacific Bell, or posted from the same terminal at the Burbank Public Library - even if the profile says they're in Philadelphia. Celticleod appears to be her favorite moniker but she has at least fifteen others.



If you go through and compare the typing, speech and debate styles, and the issues that they choose to focus on, you'll see that it's quite obvious that celticleod, Nascent, colilan and Lionel's Son are the same individual, at the very least, and if you do a search on the posts by the different names I've just posted, you'll see a definite pattern emerge, especially after May 2004. However, she or he appears well versed in teenage netspeak as well, because several of her personalities claimed to be between the ages of 17 and 14 too.



I believe she's ultimately responsible for both inciting the hatred against UltimateMother right now, as well as perpetuating quite a few lies about her. Lionel's Son is the one who claims to have a bunch of abusive PMs from UM which we all know don't really exist. When his friends were all "Great! Let's see them!" he never responded. Both LS and CL have sworn to hack into Ksite, the LexMafia boards and UltimateMother's LiveJournal.



I hesitate to say this is the act of an irrational person because of how methodically thought out it was, and for so long. This individual, by having various personalities all backing up each other's claims of persecution against them by UM for months at a time, claiming it was because they were vehement Lex fans, was able to create a general mistrust against Landa and just created an environment where every time UM moderated a Lex fan, it wasn't seen as an individual action of moderation, but as an aggregate to her non-existent "campaign against Lex fans."



I hope that makes sense. I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around it myself.



This is what Naomi wrote in her LJ:



The anonymous poster in my lj saying they wanted to wage war and Lionel's Son was with them, was actually Celtic/Lionel's Son/Glen/ClaireH/whoever else. This person has their own vendetta against UM and is stirring shit up behind the scenes.



I do not agree with what this person is saying, and the lies she has told me. She can go write her flames in someone else's journal.



I also now realise that UM was getting a lot of abusive PMs. They were most likely all from this person who was posting under multiple identities. She is the many Lex fans who were frustrating UM.



In other words, we all got played against each other. We at Kryptonsite are agog, but mostly we feel really bad for the LexMafia girls. They invested tons of energy into defending this person in her various guises on the boards, believing that they were truly being picked on. After all, if ten people have the same problem with the same person, you can't just write it off as a personality conflict. What's more, they thought these personas were their friends, in real crises, real depressions, and it was all just a big hoax to use them to start a fandom-wide flamewar. Their best intentions were used against them, and our desire to keep the boards safe from hackers was used against us.



It almost worked, too. It was only the off chance of banning IP addresses back when I thought it was a big group of women trying to sabotage the boards that I caught this, and mentioned it to Lexsbitch67, and it all just came togeher there.



Twenty identities, dozens of people hurt and harassed, and at least two message forums embroiled in a flame war...



And it's just because of one girl's bruised ego.



ETA: I've now been contacted by three different Buffy/Angel forums saying this all sounds painfully familiar, and they'd like to compare notes. *is frightened now*



I don't even know WHAT to think.



UPDATE: frelling_tralk In other words, we all got played against each other. We at Kryptonsite are agog, but mostly we feel really bad for the LexMafia girls. They invested tons of energy into defending this person in her various guises on the boards, believing that they were truly being picked on. After all, if ten people have the same problem with the same person, you can't just write it off as a personality conflict. What's more, they thought these personas were their friends, in real crises, real depressions, and it was all just a big hoax to use them to start a fandom-wide flamewar. Their best intentions were used against them, and our desire to keep the boards safe from hackers was used against us.It almost worked, too. It was only the off chance of banning IP addresses back when I thought it was a big group of women trying to sabotage the boards that I caught this, and mentioned it to Lexsbitch67, and it all just came togeher there.Twenty identities, dozens of people hurt and harassed, and at least two message forums embroiled in a flame war...And it's just because of one girl's bruised ego.: I've now been contacted by three different Buffy/Angel forums saying this all sounds painfully familiar, and they'd like to compare notes. *is frightened now*I don't even know WHAT to think.shares the "Lex Mafia" side of the story and the extents to which SockQueen lied to them and used their good intentions in this post

