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s Pyoro, one of Nintendo's many beloved characters.

Gotdatmoney said: Its not justifiable to not be able to back up your saves. There is no excuse Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Psycho_Mantis said: Forcing consumers to pay to save games is a new low for this industry. Nintendo need to come up with a physical method to save. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Abriael said: The sad part is that among current platforms, the Switch is the one with the biggest chance of being lost or stolen, alongside all your saves.



Even sadder is that some are defending this. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Phantom Thief said: Yup. Even Sony didn’t have the nerve to pull this with the much maligned Vita memory debacle. This is a new low. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Mr. Keith said: Not letting you transfer saves to the SD card is the most egregious thing about all this.



The solution is right there but Nintendo wants to create a problem and then charge us to fix it. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Kilbane65 said: I was playing Bloodborne a couple of years ago and trying to go as blind as possible, when I reached a point in the game where it felt like it was ending right after. Since I was a Souls veteran already, I knew that these games always end after the last boss and inevitably put you in a New Game + with no way to go back. So I made a back up of my save to a pendrive, and it happened exactly how I imagined. Now I had the means to go back and do all the optional content that I missed and enjoy my game to the fullest.

Backing up saves is a fundamental right that shouldn't be locked behind a paywall. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Naner said: I'm kinda fine with cloud saves being locked behind the paywall, but it's absolutely ridiculous to have no other way of backing up saves when even the Wii U and 3DS had it. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

ThorRagingFire said: Nintendo doing more unexplainable things. We are in 2018... is it so hard to let your users backup the save data to a MicroSD or a Pen Drive? Nintendo Switch is the only console that doesn't allow you to do that. Shameful. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Punxsutawney said: I agree this is pretty shocking. I need to send my Switch in to Nintendo for a repair but am too afraid of losing my BOTW saves. That's not a situation that is OK. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Zan said: As someone who's Switch was almost lost for good, I fully agree. It's also a little disconcerting seeing some of the responses here. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Yoshi said: This is absolutely shitty from Nintendo. Considering I hate online play (also, I have no matching phone), it is basically them telling me to pay 20€ to back up my saves for a year. All NES games I am interested in are on my NES as well, so it would really just be a pay-for-saves "service" for me. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Abylim said: Honestly the lack of back up deterred my purchase of a switch for a while. I have had sh*t stolen in the past and the thought of losing my save makes me feel ill.



I have 250+ hours in Xenoblade and over 100 in Zelda. I’d never touch them again if I lost those saves.



It’s absurd to think that I can’t back them up to my SD card just because Nintendo thinks hackers will find a way in through saves.



I love my switch. But this, and the phone app are stupid, cumbersome decisions. And we’re allowed to be upset by it. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Dusk Golem said: I wrote this in another thread.



As a primarily PC gamer, the idea of cloud save services being packed behind a paywall is ludicrous to me. To have no natural way to back up saves on top of that just seems dumb to me. And I admit seeing some people defend it seems bizarre to me.



Nintendo having no solutions currently to back up your saves for Switch owners, and present it behind a paywall when it does appear is, frankly, anti-consumer as hell. Sony does it too, but at the very least there's a way to physically store your saves. Nintendo providing no method outside of paying them is frankly Nintendo's sometimes backwards systems they've had in the past rearing it's head again in an ugly way. Sure Nintendo doesn't HAVE to do anything here, but they are far behind their competition in this area, and frankly it's a pretty crucial area as saves are essentially a person's time and experience with a game. If they lose it, it's something they can't get back without the ability to back their saves.



I hope there's outcry and Nintendo listens instead of people defending this. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

DDayton said: I think the other thing that is worth noting is that the PR says "most Switch games."



Not all Switch games.



I fear this means that Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and any game with "special" unlocks/trades won't allow for save backup. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Bouniter said:



The cloud saves that Nintendo are forcing us into paying for don't even work for all their games.



No game whether it be because the save file is to big or I might be able to exploit the game in some way should be unable to be backed up, its absurd.



I just cannot comprehend how Nintendo think this is an acceptable solution to a problem only they have its totally baffling. No game whether it be because the save file is to big or I might be able to exploit the game in some way should be unable to be backed up, its absurd.I just cannot comprehend how Nintendo think this is an acceptable solution to a problem only they have its totally baffling. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

An update to allow the backing up of save data via microSD. An update to allow the backing up of save data via USB Mass Storage Devices. A free tier of the cloud storage feature of Nintendo Switch Online for all, removing the backup paywall.

pixelpatron said:



Then I encourage you to go to the news section on your Switch console and downvote (oh)







It’s in the news section....

If your upset about Nintendo’s online service plans as well as this roll out of the virtual console (if you can even call it that).Then I encourage you to go to the news section on your Switch console and downvote (oh)It’s in the news section.... Click to expand... Click to shrink...

This cute little birdie and I have a few things in common. We're both cute, we both like to eat legumes, and we're both red as can be at the moment, albeit for different reasons. Of course, I'm talking about the news regarding Nintendo Switch Online's cloud save feature. Now, saving data costs money and we recognize this. Whether you paid for a proprietary memory card in days of yore, an SD card, a hard drive, a flash drive, or had the cost added in for a cart, all of that costs money, and we recognize this. The option to back up non-cart data however, has always been free of fees for consoles and PCs. Basically, what we are saying is that. It's always been this way, that is until now...PC games? Copy paste to anywhere, with anything.Sega CD? Buy multiple RAM carts.PlayStation? Duplicate your memory card.Saturn? Backup memory cart.Dreamcast? Use extra VMUs or memory cards!PS2? See PS1GCN? Memory cards baby!Xbox? Memory card it!Wii? Grab an SD Card!Xbox 360? Use a flash stick, memory card, or hard disk.PS3: Use a USB flash stick.: Use a USB 2.0 Mass Storage Device.PS4: Use a flash drive.Xbox One: FREELY USE THE CLOUDNintendo Switch:For those not in the know,The only option is the cloud this fall, behind a paywall, and that is a problem. What about little birdies like Pyoro that just wanna play on the go and don't need online play? Thanks to paywalled backups, it's one wrong bump on the noggin, and birdie go bye-bye, just like your saves!Think about it this way. You can back up your computer without paying a fee. You can do the same thing for your tablet or smartphone. All those console mentioned earlier? You've got options involving no fees, for every single one of them, except for this one. Nintendo Switch is the console that stands to benefit the most from having backups, and the one that arguably needs it the most due to its portability factor. But don't just take my word for it, here are some thoughts others in our community have on the matter. This is just here on Era, but similar sentiments can be found all around.Backups should not be locked behind a paywall, period.So backups are paywalled and Nintendo doesn't even include the ability for backups in all games?I love Nintendo, and I'm certain a lot of you do too. Nintendo fans are amongst the most passionate game players on the planet, but we have to call out bad practices and anti-consumer trends for what they are. Other companies in the gaming industry have made questionable choice in years prior, but because people like you and me raised awareness, change came about. Look at the policy updates for the Xbox One after the E3 reveal, or the lootbox tweaks in games such as Battlefront II and Shadow of War, or even Nintendo themselves being more inclusive in Animal Crossing by adding new skin tone options after the limited ones in New Leaf. The point is that when awareness to an anti-consumer situation is raised, people take notice, and change CAN happen.What we want is simple, andof these 3 options would be acceptable.We're not asking much, we are honestly asking for the bare minimum, and we believe that if we act soon, we can make change happen.Psycho_Mantis came up with, a brilliant, catchy hashtag! Use it and spread the word to tell Nintendo and the world that you just want to have peace of mind, without having to pay a fee for it. Tell them that a free option for backups is the only way to play fair! Be sure to link to http://bit.ly/SAVETHESAVES which links back here, so people can learn more about the issue and developments in this thread.You can also retweet this tweet if you'd like.Additionally, in another thread, someone mentioned this.If you go to the console's news section and "downvote" their NSO PR, it sends Nintendo a direct message that you are not satisfied with their announcement, so take a moment to Oh. it on your system. Just another way of sending a message, albeit a more general one.So spread the word! Contact your favorite blog, use the graphic above on your own site, retweet the tweet, and remember to use #SAVETHESAVES. Together, we can do it!