MockHamill Profile Joined March 2010 Sweden 1697 Posts #1



http://www.blizzposts.com/blogentry/95918/starcraft-ii-ladder-league-and-season-faq.



I think this change is excellent. If you manage to get promoted you could sometimes get on a bad losing streak and fall back from where you came which was very demoralizing. Now you will get to keep your league status at least until the next season.



Please observe this has nothing to with ladder lock, it is for the whole season.





It is no longer possible to be demoted during a season, only when you play your placement matches for a new season can you be demoted!I think this change is excellent. If you manage to get promoted you could sometimes get on a bad losing streak and fall back from where you came which was very demoralizing. Now you will get to keep your league status at least until the next season.Please observe this has nothing to with ladder lock, it is for the whole season.

DavoS Profile Blog Joined October 2012 United States 1909 Posts #2 Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion "KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000

phuzi0n Profile Joined April 2010 United States 308 Posts #3 Does that mean GM players can't be demoted either? If so then the first people to make GM would stay GM all season.

BlueLanterna Profile Joined April 2011 291 Posts Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:00:57 #4 On June 04 2013 06:59 phuzi0n wrote:

Does that mean GM players can't be demoted either? If so then the first people to make GM would stay GM all season.



Logic would dictate that GM would be the exception to the rule, but who knows... Logic would dictate that GM would be the exception to the rule, but who knows...

R1CH Profile Blog Joined May 2007 Netherlands 10026 Posts #5 I'm sure the regular GM dropdown conditions still apply (inactivity etc). Administrator Twitter: @R1CH_TL

Poffel Profile Joined March 2011 471 Posts #6 On June 04 2013 06:58 DavoS wrote:

Eh, not too thrilled. When I first started playing, I was put in Gold. I was not gold league caliber. I lost every game that season and that was against low level silvers after the first few golds roflstomped me. I literally celebrated when I got demoted to silver. Would like to see a way to make placement matches more accurate before they worry about things like demotion

Well, by now you could just "leave league" in such an event and do your placement matches again, so that shouldn't be much of a problem, or am I mistaken? Well, by now you could just "leave league" in such an event and do your placement matches again, so that shouldn't be much of a problem, or am I mistaken?

Draconicfire Profile Joined May 2010 Canada 2561 Posts #7 On June 04 2013 06:59 phuzi0n wrote:

Does that mean GM players can't be demoted either? If so then the first people to make GM would stay GM all season.



Pretty sure that's how it works now anyways.



This new change is eh I guess. If the seasons are short enough it's not a big deal. Removes some ladder anxiety I guess. Pretty sure that's how it works now anyways.This new change is eh I guess. If the seasons are short enough it's not a big deal. Removes some ladder anxiety I guess. @Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802

o29 Profile Joined November 2010 United States 220 Posts #8 With the "leave league" button it should still be possible though, right? Seems like another change to help protect people's precious egos, but it ultimately shouldn't actually change anything about the difficulty of matched opponents.

Morfildur Profile Blog Joined August 2010 Germany 4243 Posts #9 Uhm, what?



Yeah, getting demoted is unpleasant for those it happens to, but it's just how ladders work. You go up when you are better than your opponents, you go down when you are worse. Feels like Blizzard tries to remove that part but that kind of makes the whole ladder pointless unless they make seasons really short, e.g. a month or so. Otherwise there will be lots of people with lucky placement matches and such showing up far above where they should be.

skylarr Profile Joined May 2013 Canada 209 Posts #10 That's kinda unnecessary haha

GuitarBizarre Profile Blog Joined November 2011 United Kingdom 331 Posts #11 On June 04 2013 06:59 phuzi0n wrote:

Does that mean GM players can't be demoted either? If so then the first people to make GM would stay GM all season.



If you think of it, GM is actually just another part of masters league, its not actually a league of its own, so you could flip down to masters, just not to diamond. If you think of it, GM is actually just another part of masters league, its not actually a league of its own, so you could flip down to masters, just not to diamond. In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer

Savage88 Profile Joined April 2013 Germany 132 Posts #12 Thats just a terrible idea. Since HotS it feels leagues are getting worse and worse. I was Plat all of WoL and I'm Masters now even I haven't improved at all. It feels like people in Masters are more Plat WoL Level now and if you cannot get demoted it makes it even worse.





MichaelDonovan Profile Joined June 2011 United States 1448 Posts #13 Well now people are gonna be scared shitless to play their placement matches cause they don't know how they did lol.

Frankenberry Profile Joined February 2012 Denmark 298 Posts #14 What a horrible idea

Koromon Profile Joined May 2012 United States 164 Posts #15 On June 04 2013 07:05 Savage88 wrote:

Thats just a terrible idea. Since HotS it feels leagues are getting worse and worse. I was Plat all of WoL and I'm Masters now even I haven't improved at all. It feels like people in Masters are more Plat WoL Level now and if you cannot get demoted it makes it even worse.







I mean, even if you're "in" Masters, if you keep losing and losing throughout the season, your MMR would be placing you against people of relatively the same skill level (let's say Plat WoL level) and so it'd be fine? I mean, I'm assuming the system just wouldn't put you in your place until the end of the season. I mean, even if you're "in" Masters, if you keep losing and losing throughout the season, your MMR would be placing you against people of relatively the same skill level (let's say Plat WoL level) and so it'd be fine? I mean, I'm assuming the system just wouldn't put you in your place until the end of the season.

aksfjh Profile Joined November 2010 United States 4851 Posts #16 On June 04 2013 07:06 MichaelDonovan wrote:

Well now people are gonna be scared shitless to play their placement matches cause they don't know how they did lol.

Better than what's happening now, where people get to some goal league and just stop playing out of fear of demotion. Better than what's happening now, where people get to some goal league and just stop playing out of fear of demotion.

Blargh Profile Joined September 2010 United States 1878 Posts Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:11:14 #17 That doesn't really make sense to me. So, let's assume the top 2% (isn't that what Master league consists of?) make it into Master league at the beginning of the season. Then, as the season progresses, people who WOULD get promotions cannot because the top 2% is already filled. Normally, players would be demoted out of Master league and players would be promoted into Master league. Or is it that the players who -WOULD HAVE- gotten demoted from Masters will stay in it and be ignored for the "top 2%" while players still get promoted from Diamond, thus making master league technically larger than 2%?



While I don't like to get demoted because master league so kewl man, I disagree with the idea. If you aren't playing master league level, then you probably shouldn't be in Master league. But this might be better for a majority of people. It just doesn't follow the "competitive" style of a ladder.

Mortal Profile Blog Joined November 2010 2941 Posts #18 Hahahaha, oh Blizzard you jest. The universe created an audience for itself.

Heyoka Profile Blog Joined March 2008 Temple of EE-Sama 22504 Posts #19 Not entirely sure why everyone is so mad at this. I'd guess it doesn't effect basically anything, and that the 2% (or whatever it is) of masters will be made up of MMR calculations and not what is displayed, so those who have dropped below will still free up slots. It just won't show on their account. @RealHeyoka | DreamHack StarCrafty Man

Targe Profile Blog Joined February 2012 United Kingdom 5978 Posts #20 On June 04 2013 07:08 Blargh wrote:

That doesn't really make sense to me. So, let's assume the top 2% (isn't that what Master league consists of?) make it into Master league at the beginning of the season. Then, as the season progresses, people who WOULD get promotions cannot because the top 2% is already filled. Normally, players would be demoted out of Master league and players would be promoted into Master league. Does this mean that the players who -WOULD HAVE- gotten demoted from Masters will stay in it and be ignored for the "top 2%" while players still get promoted from Diamond, thus making master league technically larger than 2%?



While I don't like to get demoted because master league so kewl man, I disagree with the idea. If you aren't playing master league level, then you probably shouldn't be in Master league. But this might be better for a majority of people. It just doesn't follow the "competitive" style of a ladder.



You're overthinking, it wouldn't be that much more. You're overthinking, it wouldn't be that much more. 11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main

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