Asura.Saevel said: » Asura.Sechs said: » From a BRD's point of view, the utility of Troub's 5/5 is mainly to land stuff on mobs where you wouldn't otherwise be able to reliably land it. Albumen and Vinipata come to mind.

That is what Elemental Seal is for. That is what Elemental Seal is for.

Quote: It's 2 parties with 4 songs each, maybe 5 at a stretch. This is completely doable within a 64s window as each song is instantly cast with a 3s gap. Nightinggale 5/5 makes every song instantly cast so the only delay is the 3s global timer, give them 3.5s per song.

It's not the same.First: EleSeal can be used in addition to NiTro, it's not one or the other.Second: EleSeal is a single cast. If for any chance one target remains out of your AoE at the very last second, good luck.Third: EleSeal grants much less macc than 5/5 Troub.Gear these days is much better so I'm not sure if it's still an issue, but back when Albumen was still hot I'm sure you can find testimony from many other BRDs saying that EleSeal was producing with a noticeable rate some resist, where Albumen adds would wake up earlier than expected.That never happened not even a single time with Troubadour.(Troubadour grants 2x Duration as well btw, EleSeal does not)I'm not saying EleSeal is completely unviable, I've been messing with it for a bit and I'm sure with nowadays' gear the resist rate would be better, but anything that's above 0% would still give me a feeling of unease, personally.Edit:I'm talking mostly from the Mage setup, where Albumen fights lasted a loooong time.With Melee setup I guess it's not a big deal, unless something goes wrong (and you wipe if it does lol) then the fight is pretty fast so meh, not a big deal I guess.I'm a fan of Dirge don't get me wrong.I'm just saying that it's a hard choice for a career BRD (probably less so for song-only mules), one that brings consequences.Consequences that are more ignorable the less songs you have to cast, and vice-versa.You can totally do 3x PTs with 5 songs each as well just like Comeatmebro said,Emphasis on that though.Because in reality a lot of things can go wrong (and I'm not mentioning the packet loss in Divergence, that's an entirely different scale of issues) and make you lose precious seconds.Less space for errors, less space to relax and lay down, less chances to have CDs still up when you cast debuff on an enemy.In general it's simply a "QoL" difference for career BRDs, it makes it more stressing and less fun to play the job, at least from my personal point of view.It's the same reason why I try to limit the party swapping. Back during Delve we were ptswapping on pretty much everything, keeping all those songs up all of the time lolPersonally I'd just stop playin BRD if I had to do that on every content every time, these days. But hey, that's just me!