Ann Coulter joined conservative radio host Eric Metaxas, a fellow Donald Trump fan, on his radio program yesterday, where the two criticized Never Trump conservatives such as Thomas Sowell, Erick Erickson, George Will and Charles Murray and warned that America will collapse if Trump doesn’t win the upcoming election.

Coulter said that Will and Murray may have refused to get behind Trump because they are atheists who care about the opinions of others rather than God’s opinion.

“They are both atheists,” she said. “I guess status matters. As I always say, the reason status doesn’t matter to Christians is we’re looking up. If you have nothing to look up to, if you’re not getting your standard from God, then you have to look around. It’s either lateral or horizontal or vertical. You’re looking around and it matters to you—the opinion of other people.”

Metaxas, for his part, said Will and Murray are out-of-touch, “hyper-preppy” elitists who find it too “embarrassing” to support for the self-proclaimed billionaire. “I think that a lot of the unwashed ‘boob-geoisie,’ the ‘deplorables,’ are going to vote for Trump,” he said, “but right now the media is pushing so hard in the other direction that I’m actually wondering for the first time whether it’s possible for Trump to win this election. And if he doesn’t win the election, then I think it’s a sign that we are done as a country.”

“It’s over,” Coulter said.

Earlier in the program, Metaxas asked if it was “possible” that Hillary Clinton was wearing a “battery pack or something” and an earpiece during the last week’s debate with Trump and “had people feeding her stuff.”

Coulter said she doubted Metaxas’ conspiracy theory, but then suggested that Clinton, due to poor health, “had a lot of pep pills before that debate so whatever that pack was, it could’ve had something to do with her health.”

“She is Tracy Flick in the election and oh she has all of her little facts and figures and deflections and talking points and I think she could’ve reeled off talking points for another hour,” she said. “She looked shockingly, surprisingly healthy.”

Metaxas then joked that Clinton might have been using heroin.