LaVar Ball has been in the news a lot lately. In fact, probably too much. Even LaVar Ball might agree that, at this point, he’s been a tad bit overexposed.

So, what does a guy do when he’s trying to avoid media attention for a few hours and lick his public relations wounds? He goes underground and spends time on his phone, texting those closest to him.

We were able to utilize our sources deep within LaVar Ball’s inner circle to hack into his phone and get several screenshots of a particularly interesting conversation with a similarly popular figure: Donald Trump.