Breaking one out from the patreon vaults in honor of our live show on 3/9, this is a classic After Dark episode with Liv (@aveyclub) and I hosting Josh Sawyer (@jesawyer). Hear where it all began!

If you don't have tickets to the show yet, go get them quick over at bit.ly/nocartridgesawyer! And if you want a patreon discount, it's over at patreon.com/nocartridge but you didn't hear it from me.

For more from Liv, follow her at @aveyclub and of course listen to No Cartridge After Dark!

For more from Josh, buy Obsidian games and follow him at @jesawyer. Oh and go see him in person on Saturday!

For more from me, follow @hegelbon and get the rest of the show over at patreon.com/nocartridge!

For more from No Cartridge, follow @nocartridge, and for more from our producer Julian, @thirdsecond and @atsband

And music as always was provided by the talented and radicalized prodigis -- find him on twitter @prodigis and on patreon at patreon.com/prodigis