TV: Which also sort of comes full circle with Artemis’s storyline and her getting some closure thanks to the magical vision from Zatanna. What was it like giving her those final scenes with Wally?

BV: We were so grateful to our fans for really taking to the relationship between Artemis and Wally. We know that was a highly-impactful relationship, and the loss of Wally West was really hard on our fan base, and it's also been hard on our core characters as well. That's something that we played out all through the third season. But I think we also kind of felt that it needed to come to a head.

GW: We wanted some catharsis is what it comes down to. We needed it as creators, we felt the fans needed it, and God knows Artemis needed it, and so we created an episode very consciously designed to rip the hearts out of our entire audience. And then hopefully if we've done our jobs right, which isn't for us to say, put those hearts back in with some scar tissue, but to extend the metaphor with some scar tissue but beating again. And that was my serious goal in writing that episode was to make it hurt. To let them feel that pain, but let them come out the other side, to open that door on the other side of it.

Stephanie Lemelin who plays Artemis, and Jason Spisak who plays Wally, the two of them recorded all those scenes together. It was heartbreaking for us to listen to them read those words, they just were so phenomenal. I have to give a tremendous amount of credit to the two of them and our voice director Jamie Thomason, and our amazing storyboard artists, and directors, and everyone else.

TV: It was really interesting to see the season play with the Anti-Life Equation considering this day and age. It can feel really futile with the negativity and the awful news that's happening. But at the end of the season, there’s this message that we want to fight for autonomy, for free will. What was it like exploring this theme in today’s world?

GW: The Anti-Life Equation is this great Jack Kirby creation from the comics that fuels a lot of the actions of the New Gods series and those fourth-world characters that Kirby created, which we have weaved throughout our series from the very beginning of season one. I think that that plays into the themes that we've been dealing with. The Anti-Life Equation is sort of the science-fiction extrapolation of that to the nth degree, which is you know, people and young people, in particular, being told this is what you have to think, this is who you have to be. Obviously, that's not good.

BV: Young Justice has always been about teenagers coming of age, and those rites of passage. A lot of the themes that are involved in such stories have to do with challenging your authority figures and often challenging their ideals and ideologies that have maybe been put upon you by mentors or others. We've shown our characters sort of challenging what they've been told by their parents, what they've been told by the media. We've shown our characters manipulated by media, through mental/psychic control, through biological control. So all of these stories about mind control and struggling for freedom against mind control. I think going to the Anti-Life Equation, which is the ultimate controlling sci-fi idea was just sort of a natural progression for us for the show.