Former Obama chief official White House photographer Pete Souza has published a collection of his Instagram posts which use his photos from the Obama administration to comment on actions by the Trump administration.

Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson talks with Souza (@PeteSouza) about "Shade: A Tale of Two Presidents." He says he never expected to get back into the spotlight after President Obama left the White House, but President Trump's election inspired him to use his voice.

"As the days and weeks and months went by in 2017, it became apparent that I had a voice, and I needed to use it in a way just to demonstrate [that] what is happening is not normal," Souza says. "And I thought I was able to do that on Instagram using my photographs and commentary."

Interview Highlights

On how he started using his Instagram to throw shade at Trump

"It started somewhat accidental. I had seen a picture of the new Oval Office like on January 21st or 22nd, and it was, you know, gold and ornate, and I thought it looked like a Saudi palace more than the Oval Office. So I posted a picture of President Obama with the red curtains behind him, and I wrote a caption that just said something like, 'Kind of like the old curtains better.' And I guess it was a double meaning in my mind but I didn't know how people would react whether they would get it. And in that very first post, someone said that I was 'throwing shade' on the new president.

"I didn't even know what that term meant. After I started to post some more and then I heard the term 'shade' again, and I figured I better look it up."

On if he gets any negative feedback on his Instagram posts

"A little bit, very few though. I mean if you go through the commentary ... very rarely is there negative feedback. And what's interesting to me is if there is, my Instagram followers have my back, and they end up commenting back to these people. And they often point out to me people that they feel are just bots. Maybe, I don't know if they're Russian bots, but people trying to stir up trouble, not really interested in my Instagram feed, just saying what they want to say."