Originally Posted by Slytacular Originally Posted by

I have a deep respect for historical table-top miniatures warfare, and a lot of people that create the units for the historical wargames do know what they are creating about because they research this stuff. I've done similar research into what I can find closest to the original sources. This means stepping past the illustrations and idealistic imagery of what could have been Medieval Sweden (although I did look through the stuff including the infamous Osprey book on Medieval Scandinavian Warfare). I have a book source on my phone called "The History of the Swedes" by Eric Gustave Geijer, translated into English by J.H. Turner. Its really hard to conceive much of any troop composition from the 13th century from that book, but it really goes into detail about Birger Jarl's reforms and how he flipped Sweden from an outdated Viking-like society to a more Feudal-like society due to the reforms he enforced.



I've tried looking up the different museums in Sweden and I can't really yield much results of anything Medieval except what is from the mass grave of Visby. There is a 12th century stamp of Karl Jove that was still in use through the 13th century and that is as close a person can get to displaying Swedish cavalry. However, that is 12th century, and not 13th century. This is why I've decided to take my own approach to what the troop composition may have been. After having some time today to jog through my memories of why I created these certain units, it is because the units correspond to when they become unlocked in the technology tree.



Swedish knights is the last unit you unlock for tier one in the technology tree. Sweden in 1212 A.D. was right before Birger Jarl's reforms and I reflect that by creating Bondir (meaning land-owning farmers, but assume the farmers bring along their own mix of hirdmen- hired men -, sons, fathers, and lower class individuals) style units which reflect that of the old Viking like society. The more professional units like hirdmen, and crossbowmen are unlocked later in the technology tree. This is to emphasize the reformations and how outdated Sweden was during the 13th century. The reason why the Swedish knights look so heavily armoured is because they are the last unit to unlock before the transitional era starts which could mean that these tier one Swedish Knights (they represent 1300-1350) are gonna get wrecked by other faction's more advanced tier 2 knights. Sweden is going to be more of an infantry based faction, and those knights can only be unlocked in time other factions would normally unlock their knights if the player playing as Sweden only unlocks the technology necessary to unlocking knights.



As a Kingdom of Sweden player, you're mostly going to play with the Bondir and the Swedish nobility (whom may just be a body guard unit).