[sword-devel] ESV

Hi Tuomas, Yes, Crossway has decided to ask us again to stop distributing the ESV. We deal with new people there all the time and explaining to them how we work and our "family" of applications, and that open source software does not mean open source Bibles, is a challenge. For the past 10 years, we have tried to get the ESV distribution off of our server onto Crossway's server into their own SWORD remote module installation repository, so as to not require from CrossWire a license from Crossway (and all Crossway requires of a license, including a nominal annual fee, renewing the contract, providing regular download stats, etc.). Crossway has expressed desire to do this in the past, which we hoped would happen soon and hadn't been paying their licensing fees in the hopes that they would take over their own distribution, but they have never follow through with this. The most recent person in charge of digital licensing has now sent us a bill for $1400 for past licensing dues and is sending mixed signals: "Crossway does not wish to have you do this [distribute from CrossWire servers] with our content, as we have our own servers. We also do not want to make your software or the data files that work with our [sic: your?] software available on Crossway's site, as we have our own proprietary API, apps, software, and systems." ... "Crossway is not interested in granting you a license to distribute the ESV from your server, nor do we wish to distribute your data files and software from our site." ... "If in the days to come you wish to use the ESV again, we would welcome a new proposal from you regarding your desired use." I sent the new distributions rights "VP" all the threads of discussion we've had over the past 18 year with Crossway. I am sure it was probably too much to be useful, but have quoted relevant sections of those discussions. It all comes down to the fact that we have 2000+ Bibles available for our tools. For no other Bible do we have to pay an annual licensing fee or regularly deal with demands from some new person in charge of digital rights to cease distribute of their text when someone from our community emails them and asks about their new SWORD frontend having access to the ESV. It has become exhausting. I am sad it has come to this, Troy On 6/4/19 11:44 PM, Tuomas Airaksinen wrote: > Hi, > > And Bible user notified me that popular ESV module has disappeared and > I checked that it indeed is not listed in AB module listings at the > moment. What happened? > > -- > T: Tuomas > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/attachments/20190606/2a3b904b/attachment.html>