Aquinus ...am I the only person who would be more interested in seeing this on a CPU?

Fluffmeister Meh, Pascal cards are in stock and widely available here.

Captain_Tom Exactly.



1) It is obvious AMD needs better yields considering undelclocked mid-range card are all they can produce in large volumes right now.



2) Nvidia on the other hand is just doing paper launches of paper launches (literally) so they can make it look like they have actually released cards.

I though the consoles would be the brightest place a APU with HMB on an interposer.Only place I see good amounts of "in stock" is England, In the USA it seem to gotten better there's some 1070 EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, while it looks like the Zotac boat came-in if your into those... Most nicer customs (EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI) are like $460, while some perhaps some lower grades like the "GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1070 DirectX 12 GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD 8GB" at $430. There's a "ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 AMP! Edition, ZT-P10700C-10P, 8GB GDDR5 IceStorm Cooling, Metal Wraparound Carbon ExoArmor exterior, Ultra-wide 100mm Fans, Spectra Lighting, PowerBoost, FREEZE Fan Stop"... that's a month-full version is $440.Honestly the whole FAB situation is better for gamers, and while hard to watch AMD/GloFo get something going, consider what would be happening if TSMC was still the only game in town? Every company is vying to get their production in the schedule at TSMC. What if more folks (those at GloFo/Samsung) where trying to get 16nmFinFet wafers from them? TSMC would be charging whatever they want (which I'm sure they're doing now) and the lead-times longer. The situation is ugly... as face it the market was done with buying 28nm graphic cards. On the other hand something had to get moving even if it not perfect, or just a dribble. The market has been constipated for to long, this is at least that feeling thing are at least about to dump.