JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: The speaker has demonstrated a poverty of leadership. The speaker has demonstrated that he can. --



BRET BAIER: Wait a second, he just got 332 votes.



NAPOLITANO: Well, he did get 332 votes because he got the Democrats to vote with him and he scared -- and he lost the Republican who retain the value of small government. This doesn't decrease the deficit, it adds to it. It doesn't decrease the debt, it adds to it. It spends $63 billion more than we are spending now. It obliterate the concept of the sequester which they said was going to decrease all this stuff two years ago. This is an absolute fraud. They're afraid of reality. They have no sense, the Republican establishment. They have no sense of small government values that they were elected to put into law.



JUAN WILLIAMS: Wow, tell us how you feel.



NAPOLITANO: This is basically Democrat lite. There is no distinction between John Boehner and Nancy Pelosi on this.



BAIER: What about the argument that Charles makes, Judge, that holding off the government shutdown allows Republicans to focus on what they want to focus on, which is Obamacare and other things to win elections because they need W's on the board.



NAPOLITANO: It used to be a basic tenet of Republican principles you don't have what you don't have and you don't go in more debt. They are spending a trillion and a half more than they are taking in and that is simply unacceptable. It's going to make matters far worse. That $17 trillion will be $20 trillion at this rate at the end of President Obama's term.



WILLIAMS: Listen, they are doing the right thing finally. Let me just tell you something, they're doing the right thing for the American people and for Republicans. You have just written off, by the way, the majority of the Republicans on the Hill because the majority voted for this bill.