Kanye West has interviewed interior designer Axel Vervoordt for The Hollywood Reporter. During their lengthy conversation about art, ego, and fashion, Kanye casually revealed that he’s working on a book. “I've got this new concept that I've been diggin' into. I'm writing a philosophy book right now called Break the Simulation,” he said. “I've got a concept about photographs, and I'm on the fence about photographs—about human beings being obsessed with photographs—because it takes you out of the now and transports you into the past or transports you into the future. It can be used to document, but a lot of times it overtakes [people].”

At one point, Kanye mentions to Vervoordt that he had been “dealing with a very heavy concept this week that [he] couldn’t get out of [his] head,” which was revealed to be Virgil Abloh’s appointment as head of Louis Vuitton. “Because [Abloh and I] have been fighting to make apparel at a certain price that still has the same credibility and desirability as something at a higher price... But when they say he was my creative director, that's incorrect,” Kanye said. “He was a creative collaborator.”

Elsewhere, Kanye discusses the success he’s found with his Yeezy line and Adidas. “We do these sneakers that sell out and we get, ‘Oh, this is the number one brand on Women's Wear Daily.’ And I don't wish to be number one anymore, I wish to be water. I wish to be closer to UNICEF or something where I can take the information that I have and help as many people as possible, not to just shove it into a brand.” Check out the full conversation.