State Liberal MPs in Victoria and NSW are consumed with rage directed squarely at the federal Liberals for damaging the party's brand ahead of two crucial state elections.

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They argue the dysfunction coming from Canberra has done untold harm to the party among voters who put them all in the same dysfunctional basket.

While there is always a debate about whether voters differentiate between state and federal politics, there is always a blurring of issues, and the Wentworth loss has sent shockwaves through not only the Federal Parliament but also the NSW and Victorian Liberals.

The sentiment in a tweet by NSW MLC Peter Phelps urging Scott Morrison to call an early election and get "smashed" at the polls in order to head off bigger losses at the state level may be shared by other MPs in NSW, but Victorians have dismissed it as too late and "Sydney-centric".

Dr Phelps said the Prime Minister should sacrifice the Federal Government to give state Liberals a fighting chance at the two polls.

"The best thing the Fed Libs could do now is deliberately engineer a vote of no confidence in the Reps; go to an early election; get smashed; and stop driving down the vote in NSW and Vic in the lead up to our state elections," Dr Phelps wrote on Twitter.

Too late for Victorian Liberals

Peter Phelps said the Prime Minister should sacrifice the Federal Government to give state Liberals a fighting chance at the two polls. ( Facebook: Peter Phelps )

Even if Scott Morrison was to find a way to pull the election trigger in an act of goodwill to help his state colleagues — and there is no evidence he wants or plans to — there now cannot be a federal election before Victoria goes to the polls.

The minimum campaign period, from the issue of the writs to polling day, is 33 days.

Thirty-three days to November 24 was yesterday. It's too late.

The Victorian Liberals, who are in Opposition, now fear that their bid to seize government from Dan Andrews has been dealt a blow by the federal party and its reckless behaviour.

Victorian Liberals fear that some voters will vote "tactically" to send a message to Canberra.

Victorian Liberals are fighting to elect Matthew Guy in November, and say the actions of federal Liberals have done their chances damage. ( ABC News: Stephanie Anderson )

Phelps's idea only matters in NSW

Victorian Liberals fighting to elect Matthew Guy in November say the dumping of Malcolm Turnbull and the shambolic management of key issues from the "it's OK to be white" vote and religious freedoms have done damage in Victoria where voters — including Liberal voters — are generally more socially progressive.

Even the proposal to move our embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem inserted a contentious foreign affairs issue into the domestic debate — muddying the waters again.

So Dr Phelps's idea only really matters in New South Wales.

It is understood that NSW Liberals had already made it clear to Malcolm Turnbull that they would prefer him to go to the polls before the NSW election next March. No doubt they would like Mr Morrison to do the same.

Another live option being floated is that Mr Morrison calls the election, after the Australia Day weekend, for March, with a few weeks overlap with the NSW election. This would avoid the Morrison Government going back to do the budget.

Sorry, this video has expired Kerryn Phelps claims victory in Wentworth by-election

Get ready for the blame game

The NSW Government is on the nose with voters — and a lot of that trouble is of its own making.

A senior Liberal says Dr Phelps's tweet is delusional because it assumes that after giving the federal Liberal Party a belting voters would suddenly feel more kindly towards the state Liberals.

"I don't see how there's any evidence for that," the party member told me.

Back in Victoria, where election day looms, the Labor Party will exploit the dysfunction in Canberra to paint a picture of a Liberal Party not ready to govern at a state level.

Get ready for the blame game and recriminations on Sunday, November 25.