In an era where conscious uncoupling seems to be all the rage, don’t forget that not all celebrity divorces end with a happy modern family. Case in point: Sean Penn and Robin Wright. The pair ended their tumultuous marriage for good in 2010 and “don’t have a lot of conversation” these days, according to Penn.

“Um, we don’t not get along,” he said on Marc Maron’s WTF Podcast. “We have very separate relationships with our kids at this point, and it seems to work out better that way. They are making their own decisions, and as it turned out, she and I did not share the same ethical thoughts or views on parenting, including the continuing parenting of adult children.”

Robin Wright and Sean Penn at the 81st Annual Academy Awards, in February 2009. (Photo: Getty Images) More

Penn, 57, and Wright, 51, share two kids: daughter Dylan, 26, and son Hopper, 24.

Penn continued, “It was better for her to be entirely whatever she is and available to them and they love their mother and they have that relationship and for me to be entirely available, but also … we’re always going to have conflicting ethics.”

When asked what he meant by that, Penn avoided the question. “That would be getting too much into my kids’ personal life,” he said.

Dylan, Sean, and Hopper Penn attend the 6th Annual Sean Penn & Friends HAITI RISING Gala Benefiting J/P Haitian Relief Organization in January 2017. (Photo: Getty Images) More