JieXian Profile Blog Joined August 2008 Malaysia 4432 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-17 15:13:03 #2 + Show Spoiler +





How did I do?



On a more serious note, I just want to give a shout-out to all the writers and Ty2, love your articles! How did I do?On a more serious note, I just want to give a shout-out to all the writers and Ty2, love your articles! Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for poeple to chat about writing and producing music | http://www.youtube.com/c/JeiShian |

BLinD-RawR Profile Blog Joined April 2010 ALLEYCAT BLUES 45576 Posts #3



+ Show Spoiler + What do you do when something goes wrong? theres only one question in our special interview... Moderator Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR

Kaley Profile Blog Joined August 2018 64 Posts #4

comin for yo Gs, don't mind me telling ya, p-lease ~~~



There's nowhere to run under the swarm the slaughter's only begun

as we're watching our champion and chatting in the LR, it's fun!



'Cuz of the nydus you see the light of the supplies on fire

early. Light looking so tired GGs as we all admire



all the skill we've seen transpire, 'nouncer lady feels desire.

Mafia's legit no liar when he says he'll satisfy her



appetite for games so high on entertainment scales, retires

all her fears of not having done anything with life; skies are bright,



glaring rockstardom in her eyes. I forgot what I advertise

oh right playing mob on the side?'s awesomer than you realize.



Mob's gameplay and story stores a cornuh copia world for the

broodwar wiseguys to explore; uh-huh! will render progames mem'ra



ble like yo first time with a girl curled up, spooning a kin to Merl

in keeping books. Magic unfurl ing follow Lights, ~~~ camera, ~ Action's got the stamina he'scomin for yo Gs, don't mind me telling ya, p-lease ~~~There's nowhere to run under the swarm the slaughter's only begunas we're watching our champion and chatting in the LR, it's fun!'Cuz of the nydus you see the light of the supplies on fireearly. Light looking so tired GGs as we all admireall the skill we've seen transpire, 'nouncer lady feels desire.Mafia's legit no liar when he says he'll satisfy herappetite for games so high on entertainment scales, retiresall her fears of not having done anything with life; skies are bright,glaring rockstardom in her eyes. I forgot what I advertiseoh right playing mob on the side?'s awesomer than you realize.Mob's gameplay and story stores a cornuh copia world for thebroodwar wiseguys to explore; uh-huh! will render progames mem'rable like yo first time with a girl curled up, spooning a kin to Merlin keeping books. Magic unfurl ing follow this link just click...

Kaley Profile Blog Joined August 2018 64 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-17 14:34:02 #5 2Pac RIP

BLinD-RawR Profile Blog Joined April 2010 ALLEYCAT BLUES 45576 Posts #6 wat Moderator Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR

Highgamer Profile Joined October 2015 1135 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-17 15:44:58 #7 C daer isssumm talent undawEYyooooo on TL.

JieXian Profile Blog Joined August 2008 Malaysia 4432 Posts #8 On October 17 2018 23:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:

theres only one question in our special interview...



+ Show Spoiler + What do you do when something goes wrong? theres only one question in our special interview...



I make it go right! ^^ I make it go right! ^^ Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for poeple to chat about writing and producing music | http://www.youtube.com/c/JeiShian |

prosatan Profile Joined September 2009 Romania 4801 Posts #9 Kaley you are talented indeed ! Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.

BigFan Profile Blog Joined December 2010 TLADT 24445 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-17 20:53:08 #10



On October 17 2018 22:55 JieXian wrote:

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How did I do?



On a more serious note, I just want to give a shout-out to all the writers and Ty2, love your articles! How did I do?On a more serious note, I just want to give a shout-out to all the writers and Ty2, love your articles!

umm, we'll consider your application Just wanted to say that we don't bite! haha. If you're looking to have fun working with staff, and discussing BW, feel free to apply. Just ask Ty2 and Ziggy, our last two recruitsumm, we'll consider your application Former BW EiC "Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017

Alpha-NP- Profile Blog Joined September 2008 United States 1242 Posts #11 Thank you writers. I enjoy reading everything as much or more as anyone else. I especially enjoy the interviews and power rankings.

chuDr3t4 Profile Joined April 2010 Russian Federation 472 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-17 22:00:29 #12 + Show Spoiler +



Something I noticed, Afreeca considers



Right? >> The possibility of EffOrt taking his first ASL championship is one example.Something I noticed, Afreeca considers VANT36.5 National Starleague as ASL "S0": EffOrt is shown as champion w/ his trophy in ASL S6 opening(5m45s):Right? I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.

Dave4 Profile Joined August 2018 436 Posts #13 Im a little surprised you didn't ask me first before advertising the position.

JimmyJRaynor Profile Blog Joined April 2010 Canada 14085 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-17 22:33:59 #14 as a guy who spotted someone hiding in a grassy knoll....



this advertising is a good sign. TL usually knows stuff before the general public. its good to see TL is still putting effort and resources into Starcraft. I hope this means Blizzard is still putting effort and resources into RTS in general.. and Starcraft in particular.



more seriously though,

if BigFan doesn't chump on at least 3 cigars a day while bellowing "PARKER ... PARKER"... his editor designation should be removed. Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"

Garrl Profile Blog Joined February 2010 Scotland 1536 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-18 01:55:01 #15 >volunteer positions for a for-profit organisation



artists and writers, respect yo time and your craft. Working for free devalues both.

BigFan Profile Blog Joined December 2010 TLADT 24445 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-18 03:26:30 #16



@chuDr3t4 yes, they seem to have him in that first spot, though they also don't have KSL which was the first iteration. Not really sure what their thoughts are here and if we can truly count this as an ASL win. It's definitely not one in my mind.



@Dave4 Ah dang, completely forgot and now it's too late because you found out. Well, no worries, you can still apply with everyone else! :D



@JimmyJRaynor well, I've never tried a cigar before. Are you saying that there's a first time for everything?



@Garrl You are solely mistaken. Maybe it's because you didn't read the post carefully, but "there is a chance for compensation in the future" for writers. Depending on the amount of work done by gfx artist, there is also a good chance for them too. I can't comment much further though, aside from saying that this isn't as volunteer work as one thinks. On that note, if someone enjoys writing or making graphics for their favourite hobby, there's no better place for displaying that than on TL where it would be shared with a passionate community. Not everything has to revolve around money mate. How do you think most people in staff started? They started because they wanted their favourite game to get the best coverage or graphics it possibly can, and through those connections, they have managed to experience things that only a few people in esports can. Furthermore, for someone who wants to become a writer, or wants to have a portfolio, being able to work hard at your craft, and show your work can help you land other jobs in the future. Anyways, I've said enough at this point. Thanks for the comments.@chuDr3t4 yes, they seem to have him in that first spot, though they also don't have KSL which was the first iteration. Not really sure what their thoughts are here and if we can truly count this as an ASL win. It's definitely not one in my mind.@Dave4 Ah dang, completely forgot and now it's too late because you found out. Well, no worries, you can still apply with everyone else! :D@JimmyJRaynor well, I've never tried a cigar before. Are you saying that there's a first time for everything?@Garrl You are solely mistaken. Maybe it's because you didn't read the post carefully, but "there is a chance for compensation in the future" for writers. Depending on the amount of work done by gfx artist, there is also a good chance for them too. I can't comment much further though, aside from saying that this isn't as volunteer work as one thinks. On that note, if someone enjoys writing or making graphics for their favourite hobby, there's no better place for displaying that than on TL where it would be shared with a passionate community. Not everything has to revolve around money mate. How do you think most people in staff started? They started because they wanted their favourite game to get the best coverage or graphics it possibly can, and through those connections, they have managed to experience things that only a few people in esports can. Furthermore, for someone who wants to become a writer, or wants to have a portfolio, being able to work hard at your craft, and show your work can help you land other jobs in the future. Anyways, I've said enough at this point. Former BW EiC "Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017

Garrl Profile Blog Joined February 2010 Scotland 1536 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-18 11:38:46 #17 @Garrl You are solely mistaken. Maybe it's because you didn't read the post carefully, but "there is a chance for compensation in the future" for writers. Depending on the amount of work done by gfx artist, there is also a good chance for them too. I can't comment much further though, aside from saying that this isn't as volunteer work as one thinks. On that note, if someone enjoys writing or making graphics for their favourite hobby, there's no better place for displaying that than on TL where it would be shared with a passionate community. Not everything has to revolve around money mate. How do you think most people in staff started? They started because they wanted their favourite game to get the best coverage or graphics it possibly can, and through those connections, they have managed to experience things that only a few people in esports can. Furthermore, for someone who wants to become a writer, or wants to have a portfolio, being able to work hard at your craft, and show your work can help you land other jobs in the future. Anyways, I've said enough at this point.





oh, I read the post. I'm a graphic designer so I'm well aware that "chance of compensation" means nothing; you'll still be doing work for free under the guise of "gaining exposure" and "building your portfolio". You wouldn't expect someone to create an app or build a house for free, yet for some reason, the creative industries are 'different', and it's precisely because people do work for free that this devaluation occurs, and that organisations feel that they can exploit this for free labour. oh, I read the post. I'm a graphic designer so I'm well aware that "chance of compensation" means nothing; you'll still be doing work for free under the guise of "gaining exposure" and "building your portfolio". You wouldn't expect someone to create an app or build a house for free, yet for some reason, the creative industries are 'different', and it's preciselypeople do work for free that this devaluation occurs, and that organisations feel that they can exploit this for free labour.

Incomplete..ReV Profile Joined August 2017 Norway 517 Posts #18 On October 18 2018 20:28 Garrl wrote:

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@Garrl You are solely mistaken. Maybe it's because you didn't read the post carefully, but "there is a chance for compensation in the future" for writers. Depending on the amount of work done by gfx artist, there is also a good chance for them too. I can't comment much further though, aside from saying that this isn't as volunteer work as one thinks. On that note, if someone enjoys writing or making graphics for their favourite hobby, there's no better place for displaying that than on TL where it would be shared with a passionate community. Not everything has to revolve around money mate. How do you think most people in staff started? They started because they wanted their favourite game to get the best coverage or graphics it possibly can, and through those connections, they have managed to experience things that only a few people in esports can. Furthermore, for someone who wants to become a writer, or wants to have a portfolio, being able to work hard at your craft, and show your work can help you land other jobs in the future. Anyways, I've said enough at this point.





oh, I read the post. I'm a graphic designer so I'm well aware that "chance of compensation" means nothing; you'll still be doing work for free under the guise of "gaining exposure" and "building your portfolio". You wouldn't expect someone to create an app or build a house for free, yet for some reason, the creative industries are 'different', and it's precisely because people do work for free that this devaluation occurs. oh, I read the post. I'm a graphic designer so I'm well aware that "chance of compensation" means nothing; you'll still be doing work for free under the guise of "gaining exposure" and "building your portfolio". You wouldn't expect someone to create an app or build a house for free, yet for some reason, the creative industries are 'different', and it's preciselypeople do work for free that this devaluation occurs.





If I applied to write here, I'd do it out of the love of the game and with a desire to build the community. That would be the reward, and any chance to f.ex. get free tickets to events and such to cover it would be seen as a great bonus. It'd be done in my freetime, as part of a hobby. I don't see how it could devalue, when the alternative would be to have nothing at all, since there's practically no money for it in the first place.



I agree on not being taken advantage of. But I feel this is quite the wrong place to take that fight. Some people would build a house for free, give materials for free, make an app for free, assuming it was for a certain cause. For those applying here, BW is one such cause. If anything, it's more a fantastic resource for the community having such skills being put to use. To build for the sake of what we love, rather than everything being about money (unlike an actual job to pay the bills with etc.). If I applied to write here, I'd do it out of the love of the game and with a desire to build the community.would be the reward, and any chance to f.ex. get free tickets to events and such to cover it would be seen as a great bonus. It'd be done in my freetime, as part of a hobby. I don't see how it could devalue, when the alternative would be to have nothing at all, since there's practically no money for it in the first place.I agree on not being taken advantage of. But I feel this is quite the wrong place to take that fight. Some peoplebuild a house for free, give materials for free, make an app for free, assuming it was for a certain cause. For those applying here, BW is one such cause. If anything, it's more a fantastic resource for the community having such skills being put to use. To build for the sake of what we love, rather than everything being about money (unlike an actual job to pay the bills with etc.). It's ok. I still love you <3

kaboombaby Profile Joined September 2010 United States 79 Posts Last Edited: 2018-10-18 11:43:32 #19 Wasn't this a paid staff responsibility in the days of old? Surprising to see tl going the "free exposure" route on a call for creatives. Really confused about this, especially after listening to all the Chill/staff interviews way back hearing him describe getting paid for a lot of work along these lines. "Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." - Johnathan "Fatal1ty" Wendel

Garrl Profile Blog Joined February 2010 Scotland 1536 Posts #20 On October 18 2018 20:39 Incomplete..ReV wrote:

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On October 18 2018 20:28 Garrl wrote:

@Garrl You are solely mistaken. Maybe it's because you didn't read the post carefully, but "there is a chance for compensation in the future" for writers. Depending on the amount of work done by gfx artist, there is also a good chance for them too. I can't comment much further though, aside from saying that this isn't as volunteer work as one thinks. On that note, if someone enjoys writing or making graphics for their favourite hobby, there's no better place for displaying that than on TL where it would be shared with a passionate community. Not everything has to revolve around money mate. How do you think most people in staff started? They started because they wanted their favourite game to get the best coverage or graphics it possibly can, and through those connections, they have managed to experience things that only a few people in esports can. Furthermore, for someone who wants to become a writer, or wants to have a portfolio, being able to work hard at your craft, and show your work can help you land other jobs in the future. Anyways, I've said enough at this point.





oh, I read the post. I'm a graphic designer so I'm well aware that "chance of compensation" means nothing; you'll still be doing work for free under the guise of "gaining exposure" and "building your portfolio". You wouldn't expect someone to create an app or build a house for free, yet for some reason, the creative industries are 'different', and it's precisely because people do work for free that this devaluation occurs. oh, I read the post. I'm a graphic designer so I'm well aware that "chance of compensation" means nothing; you'll still be doing work for free under the guise of "gaining exposure" and "building your portfolio". You wouldn't expect someone to create an app or build a house for free, yet for some reason, the creative industries are 'different', and it's preciselypeople do work for free that this devaluation occurs.





If I applied to write here, I'd do it out of the love of the game and with a desire to build the community. That would be the reward, and any chance to f.ex. get free tickets to events and such to cover it would be seen as a great bonus. It'd be done in my freetime, as part of a hobby. I don't see how it could devalue, when the alternative would be to have nothing at all, since there's practically no money for it in the first place.



I agree on not being taken advantage of. But I feel this is quite the wrong place to take that fight. Some people would build a house for free, give materials for free, make an app for free, assuming it was for a certain cause. For those applying here, BW is one such cause. If anything, it's more a fantastic resource for the community having such skills being put to use. To build for the sake of what we love, rather than everything being about money (unlike an actual job to pay the bills with etc.). If I applied to write here, I'd do it out of the love of the game and with a desire to build the community.would be the reward, and any chance to f.ex. get free tickets to events and such to cover it would be seen as a great bonus. It'd be done in my freetime, as part of a hobby. I don't see how it could devalue, when the alternative would be to have nothing at all, since there's practically no money for it in the first place.I agree on not being taken advantage of. But I feel this is quite the wrong place to take that fight. Some peoplebuild a house for free, give materials for free, make an app for free, assuming it was for a certain cause. For those applying here, BW is one such cause. If anything, it's more a fantastic resource for the community having such skills being put to use. To build for the sake of what we love, rather than everything being about money (unlike an actual job to pay the bills with etc.).



sure, I've done design work for charities for free before. But don't kid yourself here; TL can pay, they're a for-profit organisation, and it's simply exploitation of a dedicated community to even pitch a volunteer position here. sure, I've done design work for charities for free before. But don't kid yourself here; TLpay, they're a for-profit organisation, and it's simply exploitation of a dedicated community to even pitch a volunteer position here.

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