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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 January 24, 2015, 02:08:05 AM #19159 Quote from: nioc on January 24, 2015, 01:53:24 AM Quote from: smooth on January 24, 2015, 01:14:00 AM Quote from: GingerAle on January 23, 2015, 05:33:49 PM Quote from: papa_lazzarou on January 23, 2015, 04:47:47 PM Quote from: GingerAle on January 23, 2015, 01:24:25 PM We're trying to get a community wide minimum mixin level of 3, correct?



I think the community should start petitioning the major exchanges to modify their withdrawal function.



Nice suggestion.



Quote from: GingerAle on January 23, 2015, 01:24:25 PM To have to go through an intermediary mymonero wallet is... ridiculous.



AFAIK you don't have to use an intermediary wallet. I think that if you just have to resend them to yourself. Which is kind of ridiculous anyway but its a little simpler.

Nice suggestion.AFAIK you don't have to use an intermediary wallet. I think that if. Which is kind of ridiculous anyway but its a little simpler.

well, if you do that, whats the point?



exchange --- (low mix) ---> your address ---- (high mix) ----> your same address...



there's already an easily traceable link to your primary address. All you've done is given tx fees to miners. Which is great for miners.

well, if you do that, whats the point?exchange --- (low mix) ---> your address ---- (high mix) ----> your same address...there's already an easily traceable link to your primary address. All you've done is given tx fees to miners. Which is great for miners.

Nobody can tell that the addresses are the same. For all anyone can tell those coins moved off to a completely different owner, and in fact the high mix spend is ambiguous so they could have moved off in to a number of different places. In fact it isn't even visible whether the coins moved. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.







Nobody can tell that the addresses are the same. For all anyone can tell those coins moved off to a completely different owner, and in fact the high mix spend is ambiguous so they could have moved off in to a number of different places. In fact it isn't even visible whether the coins moved. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.

I remember you recently stating that you had used one wallet for transfers from exchanges and then sent that Monero to a different wallet so that you could use a higher mixin value because exchanges use a mixin of 0 or 1. From what you are saying here, different wallets are not necessary.

I remember you recently stating that you had used one wallet for transfers from exchanges and then sent that Monero to a different wallet so that you could use a higher mixin value because exchanges use a mixin of 0 or 1. From what you are saying here, different wallets are not necessary.

Since there is no coin control it is hard to do this without separate wallets. If you move coins from an exchange to a wallet that has some other coins in it, you can't really respend the exchange coins (using a higher mix) without also respending your other coins, which wastes money on fees.



It also somewhat links your other coins to the exchange coins since they would be used in the same tranasction. The linkage is weak since there is ambiguity about which coins are actually used, but it is easy to avoid the issue by using a separate intermediate wallet.



In the future I imagine there will be coin control features in wallets so you would be able to say "just move these coins"

Since there is no coin control it is hard to do this without separate wallets. If you move coins from an exchange to a wallet that has some other coins in it, you can't really respend the exchange coins (using a higher mix) without also respending your other coins, which wastes money on fees.It also somewhat links your other coins to the exchange coins since they would be used in the same tranasction. The linkage is weak since there is ambiguity about which coins are actually used, but it is easy to avoid the issue by using a separate intermediate wallet.In the future I imagine there will be coin control features in wallets so you would be able to say "just movecoins"